Former Congressman Joe Walsh: Let’s Hope Islamists Behead Cowards at CNN and MSNBC

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Former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh (also known as a deadbeat dad) took to the Twitters today to call for Islamists to murder journalists. Yes, really.

The right wing just keeps getting more and more debased. This is why people like Chuck C. Johnson are popular — the right has a seemingly insatiable appetite for these kinds of evil scumbags.

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1 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 11:27:21am

Wow. He’s an even bigger asshole than I’d have even thought possible.

2 Jay in Oregon  Jan 14, 2015 11:27:37am

Because nothing says freedom like calling for the murder of people you disagree with. Asshole.

His kids are probably better off with him in their lives.

3 team_fukit  Jan 14, 2015 11:29:09am

He really doesn’t get how any of this works

4 calochortus  Jan 14, 2015 11:29:20am

It’s important to try to offend people who aren’t like you.

5 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 11:29:22am

But the left is hateful and violent.// Really fuck off Joe and pay your fucking child support you piece of conservative shit.

6 piratedan  Jan 14, 2015 11:30:18am

thank you fmr Congressman Walsh for embracing your inner asshole, which apparently is a mirror image of your outer asshole. I’m sad that as a former public servant you get a taxpayer paid retirement.

7 Kragar  Jan 14, 2015 11:31:56am
8 Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2015 11:32:21am

The right wing just keeps getting more and more debased. This is why people like Chuck C. Johnson are getting popular — there’s a seemingly unquenchable appetite on the right for these kinds of evil scumbags.

9 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 11:32:27am

re: #2 Jay in Oregon

Because nothing says freedom like calling for the murder of people you disagree with. Asshole.

His kids are probably better off with him in their lives.

Yeah i would be embarrassed to have this asshole as my father. AFA family values man of the year though! Doesn’t pay his child support and wants to behead those he disagrees with.

10 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 11:33:39am

The sad fact is if Walsh lived in a state that wasn’t politically sane like Illinois is, he would probably still be in Congress today.

11 Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2015 11:33:49am

Doesn’t one have to have “base” before he/she can become “debased”? Therefore, I will have to object based upon facts not in evidence.

12 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 11:34:18am

This is just Walsh’s way of angling for the VP slot.

13 Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2015 11:34:49am

Also too…Walsh’s line of thinking:

Islamist: I will behead you for not showing the cartoons, which would cause me to behead you.

14 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 11:35:40am

Really I don’t want to hear how the left is hateful and violent ever fucking again when the right is filled with people like Joe Walsh.

15 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 11:35:47am

How does Fox fit Walsh’s target list?

16 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 11:36:03am

re: #12 Higgs Boson’s Mate

This is just Walsh’s way of angling for the VP slot.

Cruz-Walsh 2016: Because we hate you.

17 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 11:36:55am
18 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 11:37:29am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

The right wing just keeps getting more and more debased. This is why people like Chuck C. Johnson are getting popular — there’s a seemingly unquenchable appetite on the right for these kinds of evil scumbags.

Do you think there’s a sort of Stockholm Syndrome at work there?

19 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 11:38:19am

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Do you think there’s a sort of Stockholm Syndrome at work there?

Sphincter Syndrome.

20 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 11:38:42am

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Do you think there’s a sort of Stockholm Syndrome at work there?

Nah, I think the right likes these types and has for some time.

21 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 11:39:57am

re: #17 Varek Raith

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Really I can’t stand Fox and any of the other right wing media but wish death on them? Uh no because I’m not a psychopath who thinks people I disagree with deserve death. Walsh is really showing his inner authoritarian and blood thrist with this tweet but then Obama’s the real monster they tells me.//

22 jaunte  Jan 14, 2015 11:40:14am

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Nah, I think the right likes these types and has for some time.

Since first grade.

23 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 11:40:15am

oh, the hypocrisy:

24 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 11:41:11am

re: #22 jaunte

Since first grade.

Pretty much.Their maturity hasn’t evolved much from that time either.

25 Kragar  Jan 14, 2015 11:41:21am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, the hypocrisy:

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That hat is the international sign for Douchebag

26 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 11:42:16am

Aaaaah, deadbeat “father” Walsh supports the action of terrorists……gotcha

27 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 11:42:34am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, the hypocrisy:

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Regular bunch of Dr. Frankensteins, they are.

28 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 11:44:02am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, the hypocrisy:

It’s just a matter of time before Kory Watkins murders someone in so-called “self-defense”. Save this post, mark my words….it will happen…..

29 Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2015 11:47:58am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, the hypocrisy:

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Hypocrisy or no, Open Carry Tarrant is deeply crazy and it’s only a matter of time before one of them goes on a rampage.

30 EPR-radar  Jan 14, 2015 11:48:07am

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Do you think there’s a sort of Stockholm Syndrome at work there?

No. This is what US movement conservatism is. This is who US movement conservatives are. Both stupid and evil.

31 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 11:49:35am
Former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh (also known as a deadbeat dad)

Let’s also not forget copyright violator.

32 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 11:50:02am

re: #29 Mike Lamb

Hypocrisy or no, Open Carry Tarrant is deeply crazy and it’s only a matter of time before one of them goes on a rampage.

I don’t get the argument for Open Carry. There never has been a tradition for carrying long guns everywhere you go.

33 De Kolta Chair  Jan 14, 2015 11:50:45am

re: #6 piratedan

thank you fmr Congressman Walsh for embracing your inner asshole, which apparently is a mirror image of your outer asshole. I’m sad that as a former public servant you get a taxpayer paid retirement.

I believe one has to have served in Congress for at least five years to qualify for the congressional pension system. Walsh was in the House for only one term.

34 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 11:50:49am

Sadly this includes Zedushka:

35 Testy Toad T  Jan 14, 2015 11:51:00am

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t get the argument for Open Carry. There never has been a tradition for carrying long guns everywhere you go.

It scares panty-waisted nancy-boy Democrats. I don’t think further justification is required.

36 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 11:51:11am

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t get the argument for Open Carry. There never has been a tradition for carrying long guns everywhere you go.

Wrong!! See Somalia.

///

37 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 11:59:04am

re: #35 Testy Toad T

It scares panty-waisted nancy-boy Democrats. I don’t think further justification is required.

It pisses off liberals hurr hurr.

38 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 11:59:08am

re: #34 The Vicious Babushka

Sadly this includes Zedushka:

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I suppose this would also affect my MIL who gets disability.

she’s a big Tea Party supporter.

39 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 11:59:08am

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t get the argument for Open Carry. There never has been a tradition for carrying long guns everywhere you go.

They carry the legal long guns to call attention to the law against carrying pistols openly (exc. for antiques of a specified age).

40 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 11:59:08am

re: #30 EPR-radar

No. This is what US movement conservatism is. This is who US movement conservatives are. Both stupid and evil.

I shy away from the word ‘evil’ because it’s so overused, but this is largely it. It’s the ‘epistemic closure’ thing, where the only people they talk to are other Conservatives, and they get positive reinforcement for saying crazy shit versus being ostracized for being reasonable.

41 leftynyc  Jan 14, 2015 11:59:11am

I sincerely don’t remember if the images of Piss Christ or the elephant dung artwork about Jesus was shown on TV or not. If they were and they’re not showing this totally innocuous new cover of the magazine, then it really is hypocrisy and cowardice.

That said, Joe Walsh is really quite the asshole.

42 Kragar  Jan 14, 2015 12:01:29pm
43 Kragar  Jan 14, 2015 12:01:29pm

Double post there, sorry

44 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 12:05:02pm

re: #41 leftynyc

I sincerely don’t remember if the images of Piss Christ or the elephant dung artwork about Jesus was shown on TV or not. If they were and they’re not showing this totally innocuous new cover of the magazine, then it really is hypocrisy and cowardice.

That said, Joe Walsh is really quite the asshole.

The “totally innocuous” new magazine cover contains two “hidden” penis pix!

45 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 12:05:29pm

Because showing offensive cartoons is now the rights our forefathers risked their lives to protect, greater than all other rights, it’s why we created America, or something.

As$hole.

46 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 12:05:31pm

re: #42 Kragar

re: #43 Kragar

you don’t get double updings for a double post…

47 Single-handed sailor  Jan 14, 2015 12:05:43pm

Climbers are making a final push to the top of El Capitan. You can watch their progress live on NBC.

48 Kragar  Jan 14, 2015 12:06:27pm

re: #46 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

you don’t get double updings for a double post…

I blame the hamsters

49 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 12:07:13pm

re:
#41

I sincerely don’t remember if the images of Piss Christ or the elephant dung artwork about Jesus was shown on TV or not.

That’s different because shutup.

/

50 blueraven  Jan 14, 2015 12:08:37pm

So how is Walsh any different than the terrorist scum? They both want to dictate the editorial control over the media by violent means.

51 leftynyc  Jan 14, 2015 12:09:03pm

re: #44 The Vicious Babushka

The “totally innocuous” new magazine cover contains two “hidden” penis pix!

I was only able to see that when turning it upside down but I still maintain if those other images were shown, it’s the height of hypocrisy not to show the magazine cover. We both know it’s not because it shows a penis.

52 No Country For Old Haters  Jan 14, 2015 12:10:17pm

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

I shy away from the word ‘evil’ because it’s so overused, but this is largely it. It’s the ‘epistemic closure’ thing, where the only people they talk to are other Conservatives, and they get positive reinforcement for saying crazy shit versus being ostracized for being reasonable.

The Conservative reverse-meritocracy has been in effect for many years now. You can only win in that subculture by being a hate-fueled loser.

53 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 12:10:18pm

re: #50 blueraven

So how is Walsh any different than the terrorist scum? They both want to dictate the editorial control over the media by violent means.

He was just being ironic and satirical, like his heroes in France…

54 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 12:11:39pm

re:
#4

It’s important to try to offend people who aren’t like you.

Absolutely right. Except if you aren’t my kind of Christian than you can’t offend me. That would be persecution.

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55 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 12:12:25pm

re: #41 leftynyc

I sincerely don’t remember if the images of Piss Christ or the elephant dung artwork about Jesus was shown on TV or not. If they were and they’re not showing this totally innocuous new cover of the magazine, then it really is hypocrisy and cowardice.

That said, Joe Walsh is really quite the asshole.

Piss Christ was exhibited in 1987, we’re coming up on the 30 year mark of wingnut tolerance. They are as butthurt about it today as they were then. I’d love to someone do a fake news story about something happening to that photographer and watch the reaction of all those tolerant wingnuts.

56 leftynyc  Jan 14, 2015 12:12:26pm

Wow - this is interesting:

rawstory.com

Over the weekend, a Texas gun rights group repeatedly reenacted the Charlie Hebdo massacre in order to determine whether it could have been prevented if one of the editors or cartoonists had been armed, CBS DFW reports.

Members of the group, “The Truth About Guns,” recreated the Hebdo offices, then took turns playing the role of the “armed civilian” in the scenario.

No matter how the situation played out, though, one thing remained consistent — if the “armed civilian” confronted the attackers, he or she died. The only time the “armed civilian” survived was when the volunteer playing him ran away at the first sound of gunfire.

57 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 12:13:14pm

GED overhaul leaves Michiganders behind

Nearly 500,000 fewer Americans will pass the GED in 2014 after a major overhaul to the test. Why? And who’s left behind?

58 leftynyc  Jan 14, 2015 12:13:37pm

re: #55 b.d.

Piss Christ was exhibited in 1987, we’re coming up on the 30 year mark of wingnut tolerance. They are as butthurt about it today as they were then. I’d love to someone do a fake news story about something happening to that photographer and watch the reaction of all those tolerant wingnuts.

I don’t really understand what it happening 30 years ago has to do with anything. Do you think they wouldn’t show it now? That they would? I’m not getting your message.

59 dog philosopher  Jan 14, 2015 12:14:03pm

Romney Advisor: ‘There Wouldn’t Be An ISIS At All’ If Mitt Was Prez

market incentives, of course!

60 Kragar  Jan 14, 2015 12:15:01pm
61 darthstar  Jan 14, 2015 12:15:02pm
62 EPR-radar  Jan 14, 2015 12:15:06pm

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

I shy away from the word ‘evil’ because it’s so overused, but this is largely it. It’s the ‘epistemic closure’ thing, where the only people they talk to are other Conservatives, and they get positive reinforcement for saying crazy shit versus being ostracized for being reasonable.

Although GOP leaders are much more evil than the followers (having pursued an agenda of fostering racism etc. to get free votes for plutocrat-friendly policies for decades), the followers don’t get a free pass.

Willful stupidity as applied to public policy issues is a malignancy.

63 darthstar  Jan 14, 2015 12:16:43pm
64 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 12:16:48pm

He’s getting feisty.

65 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 12:17:13pm

re: #58 leftynyc

I don’t really understand what it happening 30 years ago has to do with anything. Do you think they wouldn’t show it now? That they would? I’m not getting your message.

Displaying a representation Christ is not against the tenets of Christianity so I think that all would show Piss Christ based on that out.

66 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 12:18:11pm

re:
#56

Over the weekend, a Texas gun rights group repeatedly reenacted the Charlie Hebdo massacre in order to determine whether it could have been prevented if one of the editors or cartoonists had been armed, CBS DFW reports.

This is always how I like to spend my weekends.

/

67 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 12:18:12pm

Joe Walsh?

Let me know when Joe The Plumber speaks up.

//

68 Sionainn  Jan 14, 2015 12:19:24pm

re: #47 Single-handed sailor

Climbers are making a final push to the top of El Capitan. You can watch their progress live on NBC.

Sweet! Thanks.

69 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 12:19:47pm

re:
#67

It’s been at least a week since I’ve heard any dimness coming from JTP. It’s been a blessed time.

70 leftynyc  Jan 14, 2015 12:20:31pm

re: #65 b.d.

Sorry - it was considered insulting and degrading to many, many Christians (and still would be, I suspect). Are we now catering to whatever medieval taboos some religions have? As I understand it, showing pictures of the prophet isn’t even forbidden in the Koran.

71 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 14, 2015 12:21:50pm

Howdy Ho Lizards

72 leftynyc  Jan 14, 2015 12:24:17pm

Well, I guess this was bound to happen sooner or later:

8newsnow.com

Authorities say the son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy has been arrested on federal land on parole violations and a drug court arrest warrant.

Records showed 35-year-old Cliven Lance Bundy was held Wednesday at the Clark County jail pending a court appearance.

73 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 12:26:24pm

re: #47 Single-handed sailor

NY Times has a great interactive feature that could almost give someone vertigo depending on how you manipulate the view of El Capitan (and your screen size).

nytimes.com

74 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 12:27:08pm

re: #70 leftynyc

Sorry - it was considered insulting and degrading to many, many Christians (and still would be, I suspect). Are we now catering to whatever medieval taboos some religions have? As I understand it, showing pictures of the prophet isn’t even forbidden in the Koran.

It may not be in the Koran but obviously a lot of Muslims believe that drawings and images of the prophet is a form of idolatry. There is no equivalent belief in Christianity.

75 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 12:27:44pm

re: #72 leftynyc

How quick before the same right wingers who were quick to go after people for not taking the cops’ side in the Michael Brown and Eric Garner cases will jump in their pickups and race out to the Bundy ranch with their guns to show solidarity with the notorious mass trespasser and thief Cliven Bundy?

76 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 12:28:21pm

re: #75 lawhawk

How quick before the same right wingers who were quick to go after people for not taking the cops’ side in the Michael Brown and Eric Garner cases will jump in their pickups and race out to the Bundy ranch with their guns to show solidarity with the notorious mass trespasser and thief Cliven Bundy?

Or try and bust him out of prison?

77 leftynyc  Jan 14, 2015 12:29:18pm

re: #75 lawhawk

How quick before the same right wingers who were quick to go after people for not taking the cops’ side in the Michael Brown and Eric Garner cases will jump in their pickups and race out to the Bundy ranch with their guns to show solidarity with the notorious mass trespasser and thief Cliven Bundy?

That will be interesting to watch, wont it? So much hypocrisy abounding these days.

78 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 12:30:09pm

re:
#72

Authorities say the son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy has been arrested on federal land on parole violations and a drug court arrest warrant.

OUTRAGE! What about FREEdom?!?!?!? We will overthrow this tearannical government!!! Don’t tread on me! Hey, why are those minorities protesting over there?

79 leftynyc  Jan 14, 2015 12:31:01pm

re: #74 b.d.

It may not be in the Koran but obviously a lot of Muslims believe that drawings and images of the prophet is a form of idolatry. There is no equivalent belief in Christianity.

But soaking Jesus in urine is okay? Well alrighty then.

80 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 12:31:09pm

re: #74 b.d.

It may not be in the Koran but obviously a lot of Muslims believe that drawings and images of the prophet is a form of idolatry. There is no equivalent belief in Christianity.

Well, loads of Protestant Christians believe that Catholics are idolaters, and seriously frown on statues and other depictions.

81 Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2015 12:31:19pm

re: #70 leftynyc

It’s not explicitly forbidden in the Qur’an.

In Sunni Islam, it’s verboten, but it is found in Shi’a Islam. Sometimes his face is concealed with a veil, but other times it’s not. Iranian Shi’ism is far more tolerant on the matter than seen in Sunni orthodoxy.

82 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 12:32:24pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, loads of Protestant Christians believe that Catholics are idolaters, and seriously frown on statues and other depictions.

They definitely don’t think too much of the Mary worship. That’s for sure.

83 Franklin  Jan 14, 2015 12:33:43pm

LOL of the Day:

Was reading a forum about the latest Walking Dead comic issue. There is somewhat of a spoiler, so I’ll tag it below. But it was funny.

Click to Reveal

And there is a reveal that one of the characters is gay:

Fan2: wtf. jesus is gay?

Fan1: they were very chill about the reveal… it’s not like he threw a parade or anything.

Fan2: Can you show me?

Fan1: How to be gay? Not really something you can teach. You just are or aren’t.

84 aagcobb  Jan 14, 2015 12:34:19pm

re: #56 leftynyc

Wow - this is interesting:

rawstory.com

Over the weekend, a Texas gun rights group repeatedly reenacted the Charlie Hebdo massacre in order to determine whether it could have been prevented if one of the editors or cartoonists had been armed, CBS DFW reports.

Members of the group, “The Truth About Guns,” recreated the Hebdo offices, then took turns playing the role of the “armed civilian” in the scenario.

No matter how the situation played out, though, one thing remained consistent — if the “armed civilian” confronted the attackers, he or she died. The only time the “armed civilian” survived was when the volunteer playing him ran away at the first sound of gunfire.

The obvious solution would have been to arm the entire staff.//

85 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 12:35:29pm

re: #79 leftynyc

But soaking Jesus in urine is okay? Well alrighty then.

People getting pissed off over anything involving religion is not okay by me tyvm.


4:03PM BST 02 May 2010

The Koran contains a general reference to the worshipping of idols being a “manifest error”, without referring to pictures of Mohammed, but ancient oral traditions, called Hadith, quote Allah as saying it is “unjust” to “try to create the likeness of My creation”.

telegraph.co.uk

Show me something similar in Christianity

86 jaunte  Jan 14, 2015 12:37:18pm

Maybe Joe Walsh should start drawing his own cartoons. How hard could it be?

87 aagcobb  Jan 14, 2015 12:38:21pm

re: #74 b.d.

It may not be in the Koran but obviously a lot of Muslims believe that drawings and images of the prophet is a form of idolatry. There is no equivalent belief in Christianity.

Well lots of Protestants think the Catholics verge on idolatry with all their saints and Madonnas.

88 krypto  Jan 14, 2015 12:39:18pm

I’m not about to react to the rightwing stuff by being for whatever they’re against and against whatever they’re for.

The fact is that CNN is busy presenting the publication of the cartoons as a major show of solidarity in support of freedom of expression, which is what it is overall. Even a newspaper in Turkey had the courage to show the cartoons, in defiance of Turkish authoritites.

It seems inappropriate that CNN refuses to show the cover with its cartoon, as newsworthy as it is, because it shows an image of Muhammad.

89 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 12:41:08pm

re: #87 aagcobb

Well lots of Protestants think the Catholics verge on idolatry with all their saints and Madonnas.

And that is one of the reasons they’re not Catholics anymore. I don’t see them demanding that the RCC stop doing those things?

90 ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2015 12:41:39pm

re: #34 The Vicious Babushka

Sadly this includes Zedushka:

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re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg

I suppose this would also affect my MIL who gets disability.

she’s a big Tea Party supporter.

Will they be blaming it on Obama? It would not surprise me.

And that is another reason why the GOP is fine with all the hate for Obama/liberals/progressives/democrats. It makes for a great flak jacket for anything they do that will piss people off.

91 jaunte  Jan 14, 2015 12:42:54pm
92 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 14, 2015 12:43:05pm

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93 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 14, 2015 12:43:44pm

There’s always been a tension in Islam over representational art of any kind. The stricter sects in the Arab world and worse yet, Berber North Africa, were frequently death on incorporating representations of any kind of living things in art—the Almohads in Spain even prohibited vegetational patterns in their “Arabesque” decorations, I think. In Persia, banning representational art was a very hard sell. This has gone back and forth for a long time, but I don’t think it’s a Sunni vs. Shi’a thing, I think it’s a Semitic (and Berber) vs. Persian thing.

Or I could be talking through my hat, who knows?

94 aagcobb  Jan 14, 2015 12:44:06pm

re: #89 b.d.

And that is one of the reasons they’re not Catholics anymore. I don’t see them demanding that the RCC stop doing those things?

The Dominionists would if they gained power, but most of the fundies just think all the Catholics will burn in Hell.

95 blueraven  Jan 14, 2015 12:44:35pm

re: #88 krypto

I’m not about to react to the rightwing stuff by being for what they’re against and against what they’re for.

The fact is that CNN is busy presenting the publication of the cartoons as a major show of solidarity in support of freedom of expression, which is what it is overall. Even a newspaper in Turkey had the courage to show the cartoons, in defiance of Turkish authoritites.

It seems inappropriate that CNN refuses to show the cover with its cartoon, as newsworthy as it is, because it shows an image of Muhammad.

I guess all the media now have to be exactly the same because…why again?
If it is not something they would have published/aired previously, why should they change the policy now?

Forcing media outlets to adhere to one viewpoint is not OK, no matter who is doing it.

96 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 12:45:49pm

re: #89 b.d.

And that is one of the reasons they’re not Catholics anymore. I don’t see them demanding that the RCC stop doing those things?

Of course not, but that’s not what was asked initially.

Besides, if the “catholics are wicked idolatry” Christian crowd really meant it, the War on Christmas would take on a whole new meaning with those nativity scenes.

97 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 12:46:43pm

Frankly, I don’t care if media outlets choose to show the cartoons or not.
They’re fucking cartoons.

98 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 12:47:13pm

I wonder what the War on Christmas types would think of the Puritans who didn’t even really celebrate it. WHY IS COTTON MATHER DECLARING WAR ON CHRISTMAS?

99 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 12:47:14pm

re: #97 Varek Raith

Frankly, I don’t care if media outlets choose to show the cartoons or not.
They’re fucking cartoons.

And bad taste is still bad taste.

100 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 12:47:59pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I wonder what the War on Christmas types would think of the Puritans who didn’t even really celebrate it. WHY IS COTTON MATHER DECLARING WAR ON CHRISTMAS?

And Cotton Mather publicly punished anyone caught celebrating Christmas.

101 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 12:49:35pm

re: #97 Varek Raith

Frankly, I don’t care if media outlets choose to show the cartoons or not.
They’re fucking cartoons.

That’s the point of free speech and expression; the right to choose what you want to say or not say (and endure the consequences other than violence).

If US media outlets want to post ‘em, go ahead. If they don’t, go ahead. It doesn’t mean I have to watch/read them or not.

102 Kragar  Jan 14, 2015 12:50:10pm
103 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 12:50:35pm

re: #101 lawhawk

That’s the point of free speech and expression; the right to choose what you want to say or not say (and endure the consequences other than violence).

If US media outlets want to post ‘em, go ahead. If they don’t, go ahead. It doesn’t mean I have to watch/read them or not.

Exactly. Free speech and expression has always been a two way street. You can say what you want but that doesn’t mean I have to like it.

104 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 12:52:00pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Cotton Mather publicly punished anyone caught celebrating Christmas.

I’d also remind the Fundie types that want church and state brought together that it was used to persecute their religious ancestors from the UK and beyond.

105 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 12:53:12pm

re: #101 lawhawk

That’s the point of free speech and expression; the right to choose what you want to say or not say (and endure the consequences other than violence).

If US media outlets want to post ‘em, go ahead. If they don’t, go ahead. It doesn’t mean I have to watch/read them or not.

Well said, free speech is also having the right not to say something.

106 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 12:53:49pm
107 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 12:55:27pm
108 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 14, 2015 12:56:01pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

re: #101 lawhawk

re: #97 Varek Raith

Of course they can play it as they please. But I have more respect for the outlets that showed them as news, or declined and said why. CNN and some others really took (in my personal view) the worst option-Show the cartoon pixelated or blurred. Chicken shit policy.

This is an era where we need more, not less from our news outlets.

109 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 14, 2015 12:56:25pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I wonder what the War on Christmas types would think of the Puritans who didn’t even really celebrate it. WHY IS COTTON MATHER DECLARING WAR ON CHRISTMAS?

When I was up in New York before Christmas we went out to a historical village that had a special Yule tour going where you visit different houses and stores and a spectrum of how different residents are reacting to the celebration of Christmas as of 1849 or so - when the New York legislature first declared Christmas Day to be treated as a non-business day like Sunday.

The house occupied by Scots, for instance, were just celebrating Christmas itself for the first time at the request of their children. They usually celebrated New Year’s Day instead.

Once I download photos I might right up a page on it.

110 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 12:57:00pm

re: #108 Rightwingconspirator

Of course they can play it as they please. But I have more respect for the outlets that showed them as news, or declined and said why. CNN and some others really took (in my personal view) the worst option-Show the cartoon pixelated or blurred. Chicken shit policy.

This is an era where we need more, not less from our news outlets.

Not disagreeing with that. Just stating that it’s free speech to NOT show the cartoons as well and I have a problem (and I know you do too) with Walsh hoping violence on to those who chose not to.

111 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 14, 2015 12:57:06pm

re: #107 Dr. Matt

If only Obama had gone to the unity rally we’d have all the copies

112 blueraven  Jan 14, 2015 12:57:41pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

And bad taste is still bad taste.

I guess when Hustler magazine was sued for portraying Falwell as follows, all media should have posted the images in solidarity. //

Terry Abrahamson and art director Mike Salisbury,[6] featured a picture of Falwell, and a fictional “interview” in which “Falwell” describes his first sexual experience as occurring “with Mom” in an outhouse while both were “drunk off our God-fearing asses on Campari.

113 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 12:57:58pm

re: #109 Feline Fearless Leader

When I was up in New York before Christmas we went out to a historical village that had a special Yule tour going where you visit different houses and stores and a spectrum of how different residents are reacting to the celebration of Christmas as of 1849 or so - when the New York legislature first declared Christmas Day to be treated as a non-business day like Sunday.

The house occupied by Scots, for instance, were just celebrating Christmas itself for the first time at the request of their children. They usually celebrated New Year’s Day instead.

Once I download photos I might right up a page on it.

Sounds very interesting. And then you have communities like the Greek Catholic community that my grandmother was brought up in that don’t celebrate Christmas on 12-25.

114 calochortus  Jan 14, 2015 12:58:40pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I wonder what the War on Christmas types would think of the Puritans who didn’t even really celebrate it. WHY IS COTTON MATHER DECLARING WAR ON CHRISTMAS?

They didn’t have TV and stuff then and there weren’t a lot of non-Christians around so there was no one to show off our holidays to. It’s no fun if you don’t run the risk of annoying someone.

115 leftynyc  Jan 14, 2015 12:58:45pm

re: #85 b.d.

People getting pissed off over anything involving religion is not okay by me tyvm.

4:03PM BST 02 May 2010

telegraph.co.uk

Show me something similar in Christianity

You’re not understanding my position. I can understand the argument (but not agree with it) about not showing something because it’s insulting and degrading. Once you ask me to adhere to the ridiculous taboos some religions have, you lose me entirely. I’m not obligated (and no American should be obligated) to adhere to taboos. Your argument would have been stronger (in my eyes) if you had stuck with the insulting degrading part.

116 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 1:00:13pm

Muslim extremists murder people over cartoons.

Christian extremists murder people over abortion.

117 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:00:36pm

re: #116 Dr. Matt

Muslim extremists murder people over cartoons.

Christian extremists murder people over abortion.

In short, religious extremists suck.

118 Kragar  Jan 14, 2015 1:01:42pm
119 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 1:02:37pm

re: #115 leftynyc

telegraph.co.uk

Show me something similar in Christianity

You’re not understanding my position. I can understand the argument (but not agree with it) about not showing something because it’s insulting and degrading. Once you ask me to adhere to the ridiculous taboos some religions have, you lose me entirely. I’m not obligated (and no American should be obligated) to adhere to taboos. Your argument would have been stronger (in my eyes) if you had stuck with the insulting degrading part.

I live in an area where a few Calvinists still exist.
They can be quite insulting and degrading in public about anything that doesn’t meet their purity test for religion and daily life.
We mostly ignore them, unless they start making a scene at the grocery store, etc.

120 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:03:12pm

re: #118 Kragar

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This is what a mainstream GOP presidential candidate in 2016 says. What a world. And that’s not even the most insane thing Rand Paul believes.

121 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 1:03:47pm

re: #118 Kragar

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How John Birch of him…

122 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 1:04:12pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

In short, religious extremists suck.

123 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:04:44pm

re: #122 Dr. Matt

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That is how you say it right?
You just say bingo.

124 gocart mozart  Jan 14, 2015 1:04:50pm

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Joe Walsh is a hypocritical fuck. Imagine if an American publication dared to print the above cartoon. The collective freakout from Bill O’Reilly, Bill Donohue and the rest of the Christian Victimization Industrial Complex would be palpable. No one outside of Larry Flynt would touch this, so what the hell is everyone in the “Land of the Free” talking about. A couple of weeks ago, ND Tyson was taken to task for a mild joke about Isaac Newton. We are not Charlie Hebdo.

125 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 14, 2015 1:05:47pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Not disagreeing with that. Just stating that it’s free speech to NOT show the cartoons as well and I have a problem (and I know you do too) with Walsh hoping violence on to those who chose not to.

The illogic was pretty epic. Behead those that did not run the images? Ironically, the one CH image I like is the latest cover. Mohammed weeps over the militants actions

Congrats to AQ for making a weird little offensive & ill funded rag globally known. Killing at least one of their own. Hardening the resolve of multiple nations to strike back. It seems Joe Walsh and the militants share a certain distorted sense of strategy.

126 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 1:06:25pm

hahahaha….just saw this blast from the past on another blog:

…

127 Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2015 1:07:16pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s hard to believe he lost his seat…..no really.

///

128 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:07:20pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahaha….just saw this blast from the past on another blog:

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How the hell did he ever get elected in a state like Illinois? I know Illinois has its loons as does every state.

129 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:08:00pm

re: #125 Rightwingconspirator

The illogic was pretty epic. Behead those that did not run the images? Ironically, the one CH image I like is the latest cover. Mohammed weeps over the militants actions

Congrats to AQ for making a weird little offensive & ill funded rag globally known. Killing at least one of their own. Hardening the resolve of multiple nations to strike back. It seems Joe Walsh and the militants share a certain distorted sense of strategy.

Yeah they gave Hebbo a bunch of publicity they might otherwise not have had.

130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 1:08:04pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

How the hell did he ever get elected in a state like Illinois? I know Illinois has its loons as does every state.

The state that gave us Lyndon LaRouche…

131 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 1:08:22pm

re:
#118

Rand Paul tells pro-gun crowd in N.H. he’d be happy to dissolve the United Nations

Rand Paul: Moderate

//

132 krypto  Jan 14, 2015 1:08:58pm

re: #95 blueraven

I guess all the media now have to be exactly the same because…why again?
If it is not something they would have published/aired previously, why should they change the policy now?

Forcing media outlets to adhere to one viewpoint is not OK, no matter who is doing it.

Really? I have never seen CNN show similar deference before to the hypersensitivity of any other religious group.

Not to mention that the circumstances about merely showing a picture of Muhammad in this instance are not the same now as before, and the fact that the cover was singularly newsworthy in this case as well.

You also seem to have it backward. If anyone was “forcing” CNN to do anything, it was obviously to not publish the cartoon cover, rather than to publish it.

133 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:09:02pm

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The state that gave us Lyndon LaRouche…

Touche but damn that guy says stuff that is Gohmert/Steve King esque.

134 b_sharp  Jan 14, 2015 1:09:17pm

re: #131 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#118

Rand Paul: Moderate

//

Moderately sane?

135 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 14, 2015 1:09:17pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

This is what a mainstream GOP presidential candidate in 2016 says. What a world. And that’s not even the most insane thing Rand Paul believes.

That’s not even in the top 5 i I’d wager. I think that it’s going to be an interesting political season as the GOP candidates hopscotch over each other to the right.

136 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 1:09:21pm

re: #101 lawhawk

That’s the point of free speech and expression; the right to choose what you want to say or not say (and endure the consequences other than violence).

If US media outlets want to post ‘em, go ahead. If they don’t, go ahead. It doesn’t mean I have to watch/read them or not.

This is exactly what I was trying to express in another thread yesterday WRT free speech—i.e. do WTF you want, but if I find something disagreeable and choose not to view it, then don’t come shove it in my face and demand that I approve of it. Freedom works both ways:

That’s fine as long as I’m allowed to reserve my right NOT to view their magazines/cartoons. If someone comes along shoving them in my face, insisting that I look at them and demanding that I refrain from expressing my dislike, then they can just piss right the hell off.

littlegreenfootballs.com

137 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:10:32pm

re: #135 RealityBasedSteve

That’s not even in the top 5 i I’d wager. I think that it’s going to be an interesting political season as the GOP candidates hopscotch over each other to the right.

Yeah I am going to be interested in seeing how Job and Christie pander to the right. We’ve seen how Mitt does it. It’s going to be interesting to see how Jeb the husband of an immigrant will end up finding some way to trash the DREAM Act.

138 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 1:10:42pm

Charlie Hebdo is crude and unfunny.
/OUTRAGE

139 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:11:07pm

re: #138 Varek Raith

Charlie Hebdo is crude and unfunny.
/OUTRAGE

Censorship.//

140 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 1:12:08pm

re: #138 Varek Raith

Charlie Hebdo is crude and unfunny.
/OUTRAGE

You’re not allowed to have that opinion! //

141 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:12:31pm

re: #140 CuriousLurker

You’re not allowed to have that opinion! //

Boycotts are anti-freedom.//

142 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 1:13:03pm

re: #115 leftynyc

telegraph.co.uk

Show me something similar in Christianity

You’re not understanding my position. I can understand the argument (but not agree with it) about not showing something because it’s insulting and degrading. Once you ask me to adhere to the ridiculous taboos some religions have, you lose me entirely. I’m not obligated (and no American should be obligated) to adhere to taboos. Your argument would have been stronger (in my eyes) if you had stuck with the insulting degrading part.

I guess we are just talking past each other. If you are saying that we just shouldn’t be a bunch of dicks then me and you agree.

143 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 14, 2015 1:15:12pm

re: #137 HappyWarrior

Yeah I am going to be interested in seeing how Job and Christie pander to the right. We’ve seen how Mitt does it. It’s going to be interesting to see how Jeb the husband of an immigrant will end up finding some way to trash the DREAM Act.

I’m really hoping for some kind of an astroid, sinkhole or other small disaster at the first GOP debate. Swallow them all up. Only problem, that would only leave the real freaks that weren’t invited

144 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 14, 2015 1:16:31pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Boycotts are anti-freedom.//

Unless it’s by the RWNJ cuz of gays, then FREEDOM

145 blueraven  Jan 14, 2015 1:17:23pm

re: #132 krypto

Really? I have never seen CNN shown similar deference before to any other religious group.

Not to mention that the circumstances about merely showing a picture of Muhammad in this instance are not the same now as before, and the fact that the cover was singularly newsworthy in this case as well.

Oh, well then, by all means. Let us declare ALL MEDIA MUST POST THE FUCKING CARTOONS.

Hell, lets make it a law! Free Speech!

146 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 1:18:06pm

re: #145 blueraven

Oh, well then, by all means. Let us declare ALL MEDIA MUST POST THE FUCKING CARTOONS.

Hell, lets make it a law! Free Speech!

I don’t wanna see religious figures in porn.
/MOAR OUTRAGE

147 leftynyc  Jan 14, 2015 1:20:35pm

re: #142 b.d.

I guess we are just talking past each other. If you are saying that we just shouldn’t be a bunch of dicks then me and you agree.

Actually what I’m saying is that it would be the height of hypocrisy to only be a dick to one religion and not all the others.

148 ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2015 1:20:43pm

If (oh…I hope not) the Republicans end up in control of both congress and the presidency, what is going to keep all the RWNJ and other wackos content with all the bitching and griping they do about everything?

Will they eat their own? Will they learn that over half the shit they bitched about under Obama was stupid?

All that bile has to go somewhere.

Or, would it all be a big lesson and cause people to get real?

149 Kid A  Jan 14, 2015 1:22:05pm

Someone allegedly yelled “Allah Akbar” on that plane that went down two weeks ago. Dim Jim runs with it as fact and Sean Hannity quotes Gateway Douche as a reliable source. Don’t tell me the right wing isn’t dangerous.

150 goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2015 1:22:32pm

Charlie Hebdo always reminded me of something put together by college freshmen. A perpetually immature and unfocused effort constructed by a group of people away from parental supervision for the first time in their lives.

151 leftynyc  Jan 14, 2015 1:22:56pm

re: #145 blueraven

Oh, well then, by all means. Let us declare ALL MEDIA MUST POST THE FUCKING CARTOONS.

Hell, lets make it a law! Free Speech!

I’m not sure that’s what the poster is saying. It’s certainly not what I’m saying. It’s the “why” portion of not showing something that I object to. Insulting and degrading? I agree, don’t show it. Because it breaks some medieval taboo? Not a good enough reason for me.

152 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 1:23:10pm

re: #149 Kid A

Someone allegedly yelled “Allah Akbar” on that plane that went down two weeks ago. Dim Jim runs with it as fact and Sean Hannity quotes Gateway Douche as a reliable source. Don’t tell me the right wing isn’t dangerous.

Gee, if I were of faith, I might say the same thing when THE PLANE IS FUCKING FALLING OUT OF THE SKY.

153 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:24:43pm

re: #152 Varek Raith

Gee, if I were of faith, I might say the same thing when THE PLANE IS FUCKING FALLING OUT OF THE SKY.

Yeah Allah being God in Arabic. Damn it would be fun to send DimJim and Sean to a Coptic Christian service. Just see the look on their face when the priest talks about Allah’s love.

154 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 1:25:26pm

re: #149 Kid A

Someone allegedly yelled “Allah Akbar” on that plane that went down two weeks ago. Dim Jim runs with it as fact and Sean Hannity quotes Gateway Douche as a reliable source. Don’t tell me the right wing isn’t dangerous.

Dim Jim didn’t read his source material (my surprise, etc.).
Lawhawk deconstructed it downstairs:

re: #595 lawhawk

155 Mattand  Jan 14, 2015 1:26:26pm

re: #118 Kragar

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New Hampshire: New England’s answer to Texas.

156 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:26:46pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dim Jim didn’t read his source material (my surprise, etc.).
Lawhawk deconstructed it downstairs:

Gotta hand it to LH, he’s on that shit very quickly. DimJim has never met a fear spreader that he hasn’t liked.

157 Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2015 1:26:50pm
158 EPR-radar  Jan 14, 2015 1:27:08pm

re: #143 RealityBasedSteve

I’m really hoping for some kind of an astroid, sinkhole or other small disaster at the first GOP debate. Swallow them all up. Only problem, that would only leave the real freaks that weren’t invited

A mass bodily assumption into Hell would be very entertaining. Especially if every television viewer (supernaturally) gets to smell the reek of sulfur from the smoky black cloud of doom.

159 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:27:49pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

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Yikes that’s all sorts of stupid. I hope Marty’s not a real doctor.

160 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 1:28:10pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

Charlie Hebdo always reminded me of something put together by college freshmen. A perpetually immature and unfocused effort constructed by a group of people away from parental supervision for the first time in their lives.

Everyone knows that the only people who shout that are Jihadis who are about to blow themselves up.

/

161 ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2015 1:28:35pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Yikes that’s all sorts of stupid. I hope Marty’s not a real doctor.

Well, Ben Carson is. So, there is that.

162 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:29:33pm

re: #161 ObserverArt

Well, Ben Carson is. So, there is that.

Yeah he is. Carson’s the poster child for “Yes, he’s a neurosurgeon but man is he dumb as a pile of shit when it comes to political analysis.”

163 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 1:30:47pm

re: #148 ObserverArt

If (oh…I hope not) the Republicans end up in control of both congress and the presidency, what is going to keep all the RWNJ and other wackos content with all the bitching and griping they do about everything?

Will they eat their own? Will they learn that over half the shit they bitched about under Obama was stupid?

All that bile has to go somewhere.

Or, would it all be a big lesson and cause people to get real?

They’ll just blame Obama for leaving a big fucked up old mess that will take them forever to clean up.

164 Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2015 1:31:00pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Yikes that’s all sorts of stupid. I hope Marty’s not a real doctor.

He’s a plastic surgeon specializing in breast “enhancements.”

165 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 1:31:42pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

Yeah he is. Carson’s the poster child for “Yes, he’s a neurosurgeon but man is he dumb as a pile of shit when it comes to political analysis.”

And a poster child for government aid, affirmative action, government-sponsored tuition, food stamps, etc…

but don’t tell anyone in the GOP that just yet…let that all come up in the primary debates

166 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:31:45pm

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

They’ll just blame Obama for leaving a big fucked up old mess that will take them forever to clean up.

That’s exactly what will happen and they won’t see the irony in that they’re the oens who kept on accusing Obama of constantly “blaming” Bush even though Obama had a far bigger mess to clean up then they will after Obama leaves.

167 EPR-radar  Jan 14, 2015 1:32:02pm

re: #148 ObserverArt

If (oh…I hope not) the Republicans end up in control of both congress and the presidency, what is going to keep all the RWNJ and other wackos content with all the bitching and griping they do about everything?

Will they eat their own? Will they learn that over half the shit they bitched about under Obama was stupid?

All that bile has to go somewhere.

Or, would it all be a big lesson and cause people to get real?

Nothing will keep RWNJs content. It’s not clear how that would play out, except that having real power isn’t going to make the RWNjs get real.

8 long years of the W disaster made that perfectly clear, and RWNJs have gotten significantly worse since then.

168 blueraven  Jan 14, 2015 1:32:07pm

re: #151 leftynyc

I’m not sure that’s what the poster is saying. It’s certainly not what I’m saying. It’s the “why” portion of not showing something that I object to. Insulting and degrading? I agree, don’t show it. Because it breaks some medieval taboo? Not a good enough reason for me.

Again, it is their decision. Whether or not their reason is “good enough for you” should not be a factor.

169 Ace-o-aces  Jan 14, 2015 1:32:15pm
170 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:32:19pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

He’s a plastic surgeon specializing in breast “enhancements.”

Ahhhhhhhh makes sense. The doc should stick to breasts and away from political commentary then.

171 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 1:32:35pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Yikes that’s all sorts of stupid. I hope Marty’s not a real doctor.

Another one of the world’s shortest jokes: So there’s this devout Muslim bartender…

172 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:33:06pm

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And a poster child for government aid, affirmative action, government-sponsored tuition, food stamps, etc…

but don’t tell anyone in the GOP that just yet…let that all come up in the primary debates

Yeah he’s a savant and a hypocrite.

173 TedStriker  Jan 14, 2015 1:33:32pm

re: #56 leftynyc

Wow - this is interesting:

rawstory.com

Over the weekend, a Texas gun rights group repeatedly reenacted the Charlie Hebdo massacre in order to determine whether it could have been prevented if one of the editors or cartoonists had been armed, CBS DFW reports.

Members of the group, “The Truth About Guns,” recreated the Hebdo offices, then took turns playing the role of the “armed civilian” in the scenario.

No matter how the situation played out, though, one thing remained consistent — if the “armed civilian” confronted the attackers, he or she died. The only time the “armed civilian” survived was when the volunteer playing him ran away at the first sound of gunfire.

This is also telling:

As the Facebook post below indicates, the group actively solicited volunteers for the simulation:

It has not, however, updated its Facebook page with the results of it as of this writing.

174 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:35:00pm

Are: #173 TedStriker

This is also telling:

It must suck when your fantasy gets shattered like that. I should know. I did a simulation of me asking Mila Kunis out and it only worked when my name was Ahston Kutcher and I was her husband.

175 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 1:36:11pm

re: #146 Varek Raith

I don’t wanna see religious figures in porn.
/MOAR OUTRAGE

THIS. I don’t like ANY of the CH cartoons that portray religious figures in an vulgar way, regardless of the religion, nor would I want to see cartoons that portrayed atheists in a vulgar or obscene manner.

I don’t like cartoons that are racist, antisemitic, misogynistic, etc. either, even though they’re protected free speech. It’s really not that difficult to be an obnoxious asshole that insults people. Dickishness is not a trait I admire.

176 Ace-o-aces  Jan 14, 2015 1:36:11pm
177 Skip Intro  Jan 14, 2015 1:37:33pm

re: #173 TedStriker

And the simulation was bullshit because the armed “victim” already knew what was about to happen. Even then the “good guy with a gun” had to run for it to save his life.

Another big pile of NRA steaming crap debunked, just like it is so often in real life.

178 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:37:59pm

re: #176 Ace-o-aces

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Yes, the bartender knows Boehner’s secret.

Wait for it

Wait for it

He likes his martinis stirred not shaken.

179 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 1:38:43pm

re: #173 TedStriker

This is also telling:

It has not, however, updated its Facebook page with the results of it as of this writing.

They have responded:
facebook.com

180 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:39:10pm

re: #177 Skip Intro

And the simulation was bullshit because the armed “victim” already knew what was about to happen. Even then the “good guy with a gun” had to run for it to save his life.

Another big pile of NRA steaming crap debunked, just like it is so often in real life.

Right, that this failed even with the “victim” knowing what was about to happen, I think it should put this fantasy world nonsense aside but it of course won’t because these guys are convinced that they’re right.

181 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 1:39:42pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

Gotta hand it to LH, he’s on that shit very quickly. DimJim has never met a fear spreader that he hasn’t liked.

I smelled BS on that given that they just found the damned voice recorder yesterday (and the data recorder the day before). It takes time to prepare the gear for playback (because it’s been submerged and they have a process).

And once I began looking around, I found that they simply haven’t gotten to the point of reviewing it, let alone publicizing the contents. Rather, the investigator was saying what he’s had to do in prior cases - deal with the pilots’ knowing their last moments are upon them, and their pleas to God (aka OH GOD! Holy Shit! Allahu Ackbar! etc.) and trying to be dispassionate and figure out what was the technical cause of the crash.

182 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 1:40:08pm

re: #176 Ace-o-aces

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Look likes Doc has been dipping into the ether again.

183 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 14, 2015 1:41:22pm

re: #173 TedStriker

This is also telling:


Actually, The Truth About Guns site has, in the past, written up the actual results of their tests. I will hold off to see if they properly update their actual website with an accurate report of their results.

Different group than I’d thought it was. These are whackadoos.

184 Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2015 1:41:36pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

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Yes.

This has been another edition of SATMNSFQ (Simple Answers to Mind Numbingly Stupid Fucking Questions).

185 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 1:41:41pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Yes, the bartender knows Boehner’s secret.

Wait for it

Wait for it

He likes his martinis stirred not shaken.

He only ordered Orange Juliuses

186 jaunte  Jan 14, 2015 1:42:01pm

re: #175 CuriousLurker

an obnoxious asshole that insults people

I’ve tried to restrict my cartooning to making fun of people like that.

187 Skip Intro  Jan 14, 2015 1:42:11pm

re: #176 Ace-o-aces

All I know is that if I were a woman I wouldn’t be letting Dr. Marty handle my boobs while I was knocked out. I think they used to make porn movies about this back in the 1930s.

188 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:42:18pm

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He only ordered Orange Juliuses

That’s not a secret!

189 goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2015 1:42:21pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

I hope Marty’s not a real doctor.

He is. He’s a plastic surgeon in Kentucky. He generally has good reviews on Vitals but a couple of the negative one’s really stand out:

Review 1:

Had the surgery and in March breast was healed and my left breast was actually worst than before . He kept making excuses about me being African American and I didn’t have enough skin for the breast to set correctly. Excuses, excuses!!! Dr. Fox knew I was very unhappy now and said he would go back in and redo it again but he couldn’t promise me any better results. I decided not to go back to Dr.Fox because he had already messed me up twice and charged me operating fees twice. So needless to say my left breast is even more damaged and I can’t wear tank tops or any kind of shirts that are low cut. I spent over $9.500 in fees at his office and I still have to live with the fact that I am paying for breast that I am not happy with.

Review 2:

Initially I was taken a back by Dr. Fox, and thought he was a cool gentleman who genuinely cared about his patients. Notably of all the staff in his office, not one was African American. That did not deter my decision to move forward with breast reduction procedure.

… Ready to get this ball rolling, and have these breast off and pain relieved. I was again met with the Dr.’s hesitation about the insurance and my weight. Again I am noticing no patients of color, and made a note to ask why they didn’t have any AA working for them. So after he continue to scare the heck out of me. I was almost ready to walk away and say forget it. Like I had allowed fear to do for years. But nope I turned around signed my papers and moved on to getting the test done before the surgery. So I get a phone call a day later from a nurse or someone, asking me about my smoking and making sure I understood AGAIN the drastic dangers of having this surgery. When I said okay and I had to go. She then called back and told me that Dr. Fox wanted me to call him. I called and he said FINALLY after 3 Months. I don’t think I should do your surgery. I said if you didn’t want to do the surgery you could have told me. He said I don’t appreciate how you treated my staff. NOw keep in mind I asked the staff to let me hangup because she was scaring me. I also told her she was making me feel stupid. So instead of rectifying the situation. HIS staff set me back by lying and making up whatever it was. Then he not only lied about not wanting to the surgery because he was unsure the results would be successful. He made up something to get out of it. Then he went on to say by text and I quote, “You are no longer welcome in my office. And if you write a review of me and this office, I will sue you for defamation of character.” Well as promised here is my review, with exactly what happened while visiting this Doctor in his office. The unprofessionalism of his staff, his own admittance in his inability to provide me with a successful surgery. And the lack of sympathy to refer me back to the Doctor or to someone that could better provide for me instead. I bet that instead of admitting to his wrongs, and reprimanding his staff a Ms. Ruth, he will attempt to discredit me as a patient just trying to get relief as being disgruntle, rude and obnoxious. So for that purpose I will be ensuring to file a complaint with all the proper authorities to ensure that this doesn’t happen to anyone else. And if I was smart I would have read these reviews prior to the scheduling of my surgery instead of today. I will also be writing a blog about the practices of surgeons, and doctors since insurance methods, and policies has changed and seek to give account to all of those who have also been affected by situations like this.

190 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 1:42:51pm

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

They have responded:
facebook.com

omg…the comments!!!

Here’s a sample (what could possibly go wrong???)

quick ETA: After doing some followup (including looking at his own FB page), I do believe Todd is brilliantly trolling the wingnuts.

191 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:43:12pm

re: #189 goddamnedfrank

He is. He’s a plastic surgeon in Kentucky. He generally has good reviews on Vitals but a couple of the negative one’s really stand out:

Review 1:

Review 2:

Wow.

192 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 1:44:14pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

They have responded:
facebook.com

omg…the comments!!!

Here’s a sample (what could possibly go wrong???)

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That sounds like it would go over great,..

193 goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2015 1:44:42pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

Wow.

Those black wimmins and their uppity breasteses!

194 Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2015 1:44:57pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Yes, the bartender knows Boehner’s secret.

Wait for it

Wait for it

He likes his martinis stirred not shaken.

Worse…he only drinks imported beers.

195 Skip Intro  Jan 14, 2015 1:45:26pm

re: #189 goddamnedfrank

He can always fall back on his gig as a RWNJ talk show host.

196 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 1:45:27pm

re: #186 jaunte

I’ve tried to restrict my cartooning to making fun of people like that.

And I enjoy what I’ve seen of your work because you manage to ridicule hateful people without being vulgar or obscene.

197 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 14, 2015 1:47:05pm

re: #181 lawhawk

Remember the Egypt Air crash and the speculation?
31 Oct 1999 Egypt Air 990 “I rely on God”

198 Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2015 1:49:04pm

re: #194 Mike Lamb

Worse…he only drinks imported beers.

Not that a normal person would find anything wrong with that. Unless it’s Heineken. Then it would be apparent that the tanning bed had burned off Boehner’s taste buds.

199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 1:49:31pm

re: #198 Mike Lamb

Not that a normal person would find anything wrong with that. Unless it’s Heineken. Then it would be apparent that the tanning bed had burned off Boehner’s taste buds.

‘cause he sleeps with his mouth open?

200 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 1:51:24pm

re:
#190

That guy and that gun group just sound really, really nice.

/

201 goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2015 1:52:19pm

Some more ladies upset with Dr. Fox’s tit handling skills on Topix.

202 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 1:53:47pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

They have responded:
facebook.com

omg…the comments!!!

Here’s a sample (what could possibly go wrong???)

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And who says right-wingers are anti-science? This is frigging particle accelerator-grade stuff he is describing.

203 Mattand  Jan 14, 2015 1:54:31pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

They have responded:
facebook.com

omg…the comments!!!

Here’s a sample (what could possibly go wrong???)

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Wow.

“Don’t tell the volunteers before hand that you’re planning on attacking them with a paintball gun, but make sure they aren’t carrying because they might kill you.”

These are people who could potentially make up a jury of my peers. Please tell me other “civilized” countries have citizens this stupid and potentially dangerous. It can’t just be us.

204 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 1:57:16pm

So this is what the Teabag House did today:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Propelled by its enlarged Republican majority, the House has moved to ease a landmark law reining in banks and Wall Street, more than six years after a financial crisis brought on the Great Recession.

I can’t imagine this would lead to anything going wrong at all.

/

205 goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2015 1:57:50pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

They have responded:
facebook.com

omg…the comments!!!

Here’s a sample (what could possibly go wrong???)

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Also make sure nobody has an undiagnosed cardiac condition, and make sure they don’t use improvised weapons / start clubbing motherfuckers with furniture ‘n beer mugs ‘n shit, and make sure you have magical paintball guns that sound exactly like real guns …

206 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 1:59:59pm

re: #205 goddamnedfrank

Also make sure nobody has an undiagnosed cardiac condition, and make sure they don’t use improvised weapons / start clubbing motherfuckers with furniture ‘n beer mugs ‘n shit, and make sure you have magical paintball guns that sound exactly like real guns …

well that suggestion for an “apology statement” prepared ahead of time should take care of those pesky details…

//

207 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 2:00:18pm

re: #204 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So this is what the Teabag House did today:

I can’t imagine this would lead to anything going wrong at all.

/

Hope the people who gave them both Houses are happy .Way to stick it to Obama guys!

208 Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2015 2:00:57pm

re: #205 goddamnedfrank

Also make sure nobody has an undiagnosed cardiac condition, and make sure they don’t use improvised weapons / start clubbing motherfuckers with furniture ‘n beer mugs ‘n shit, and make sure you have magical paintball guns that sound exactly like real guns …

I’m pretty sure Todd is pointing out the absurdity of the simulation, and making a suggestion as to how a real life experiment would have to be structured (with the associated implications of people not knowing who the “good guy with the gun” is).

209 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2015 2:02:19pm

re:
#206

“We’re sorry not sorry if anyone had a heart attack as the result of our Truthy stunt. But if you were sick enough to have a heart attack then you were pretty unmanly anyway. And it’s all the liberals fault anyway.”

/

210 Justanotherhuman  Jan 14, 2015 2:03:53pm

Ohio Man Arrested for Alleged ISIS-Inspired Plot on US Capitol, FBI Says

abcnews.go.com

“The FBI has arrested an Ohio man for allegedly plotting an ISIS-inspired attack on the U.S. Capitol, where he hoped to set off a series of bombs aimed at lawmakers, whom he allegedly considered enemies.

“Christopher Lee Cornell, 20, of Green Township, was arrested today on charges of attempting to kill a U.S. government official, authorities said.

“According to government documents, he allegedly planned to detonate pipe bombs at the national landmark and open fire on any employees and officials fleeing after the explosions.” More

Idiot.

211 Romantic Heretic  Jan 14, 2015 2:04:04pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, the hypocrisy:

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This is going to end well.

212 Skip Intro  Jan 14, 2015 2:04:40pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

Hope the people who gave them both Houses are happy .Way to stick it to Obama guys!

Those people have more important things to do now, like trying to find out why Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo isn’t on the stupid box any more. Most likely it’s because of Obama.

213 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 2:04:45pm

re: #208 Mike Lamb

I’m pretty sure Todd is pointing out the absurdity of the simulation, and making a suggestion as to how a real life experiment would have to be structured (with the associated implications of people not knowing who the “good guy with the gun” is).

Yep, I just looked at Todd’s FB page and I believe you are correct.
He could possibly be my favorite troll of the day.

214 Skip Intro  Jan 14, 2015 2:05:57pm

re: #210 Justanotherhuman

Another escapee from Bundy Ranch?

215 Romantic Heretic  Jan 14, 2015 2:05:58pm

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t get the argument for Open Carry. There never has been a tradition for carrying long guns everywhere you go.

It’s because they aren’t allowed to display their dicks in public. Plus they can buy big guns but they can’t do much about their dicks, other than be one.

216 No Country For Old Haters  Jan 14, 2015 2:07:20pm

re: #210 Justanotherhuman

Cornell was allegedly voicing support for violent “jihad” on Twitter accounts under the alias “Raheel Mahrus Ubaydah,”

Hilariously stupid.

217 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 2:08:37pm

re: #197 Rightwingconspirator

Remember the Egypt Air crash and the speculation?
31 Oct 1999 Egypt Air 990 “I rely on God”

I remember it. Sadly, anything spoken in Arabic by a Muslim automatically becomes suspect, something indicative of sinister intent:

But what is clear is that Batouti then softly said, “Tawakkalt ala Allah,” which proved difficult to translate, and was at first rendered incorrectly, but essentially means “I rely on God.” […]

theatlantic.com

That phrase is not the least bit sinister in the context of being Muslim:

Tawakkul as a theological concept was formalized by Shaqiq al-Balkhi (d. 810), who defined it as a spiritual state or hal. Tawakkul is also considered a natural result of extreme zuhd. Zuhd can be described as being based on tawakkul or “trust in God alongside love of poverty.” This has led to an argument over whether or not tawakkul is a consequence of perfect faith. An author wrote that someone that trusts in God is like a baby seeking its mother’s breast and always finds it. He says that just like the infant, the one who trusts God is always led to God. […]

I have no idea what the equivalent phrase in Hebrew is, but I don’t doubt for a moment that one exists and would be uttered in times of danger or uncertainty.

218 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 2:08:57pm

re: #109 Feline Fearless Leader

When I was up in New York before Christmas we went out to a historical village that had a special Yule tour going where you visit different houses and stores and a spectrum of how different residents are reacting to the celebration of Christmas as of 1849 or so - when the New York legislature first declared Christmas Day to be treated as a non-business day like Sunday.

The house occupied by Scots, for instance, were just celebrating Christmas itself for the first time at the request of their children. They usually celebrated New Year’s Day instead.

Once I download photos I might right up a page on it.

“I suppose you’ll be wanting the WHOLE day off tomorrow?”

“If quite convenient, sir.”

219 Justanotherhuman  Jan 14, 2015 2:10:41pm

re: #216 No Country For Old Haters

Hilariously stupid.

Here’s the complaint against him:

Scribd Document

220 wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2015 2:12:38pm
221 Skip Intro  Jan 14, 2015 2:13:45pm

re: #219 Justanotherhuman

Apparently this doesn’t ring any bells in a gun shop.

Earlier today, while also taking “final steps” to travel to Washington for the attack, Cornell allegedly bought two semi-automatic rifles and 600 rounds of ammunition from a store in Ohio, authorities said.

222 Mattand  Jan 14, 2015 2:14:10pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

They have responded:
facebook.com

omg…the comments!!!

Here’s a sample (what could possibly go wrong???)

Embedded Image

LOL, I can’t let this go! I’m thinking about typing the following response:

I’m having a hard time believing that *any* police department, even ones in Texas, would sign off on this “experiment”.

Also, if you get a conceal carry person participating in your proposed experiment, how exactly are you going to get them to not bring their weapon? Frisk? Metal detectors? Ask nicely?

Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m guessing you’re at least a CCW proponent, or an actual participant. You’re going to tell me that if someone told you to come to this gathering (in which, by your own rules, the host is possibly not spelling the whole thing out) and said “Please don’t bring your gun”, you’d go “Sure! No problem!”?

In addition, what are you going to do if one of your participants decides “Screw them, I’m showing up with my weapon anyway”?

You’re basically creating a potential bloodbath here. But, hey, at least you’ll have an apology letter to smooth things over.

I have better things to do, but the sheer idiocy of this guy’s proposal fascinates me.

223 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 2:14:45pm

re: #220 wrenchwench

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The only face I didn’t immediately recognize was Nigel Farage. Ugh.

224 Kragar  Jan 14, 2015 2:14:50pm
225 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 14, 2015 2:15:24pm

re: #217 CuriousLurker

“Oye vey!”?

226 Justanotherhuman  Jan 14, 2015 2:16:16pm

re: #224 Kragar

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So very predictable…

227 makeitstop  Jan 14, 2015 2:16:50pm

re: #220 wrenchwench

Meet The Extremists Who Lead Fox’s Conversation About Islam

Every time I see a picture of Frank Gaffney with his cocked eyebrow, I imagine that he spends time in front of the mirror practicing and he thinks it makes him look intellectual.

It just makes him look like an asshat, though.

228 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 14, 2015 2:17:06pm

re: #217 CuriousLurker

I remember it. Sadly, anything spoken in Arabic by a Muslim automatically becomes suspect, something indicative of sinister intent:

That phrase is not the least bit sinister in the context of being Muslim:

I have no idea what the equivalent phrase in Hebrew is, but I don’t doubt for a moment that one exists and would be uttered in times of danger or uncertainty.

“No atheists in the foxhole” is a phrase all about how humans appeal to god when life or limb is threatened. To claim it was a suicidal crew member takes a lot more evidence than a few words like those.

229 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 2:17:11pm

re: #224 Kragar

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Who didn’t see that coming. Fucker’s got a lot of nerve given what he’s done to poison the national dialogue to blame Boehner’s obviously mentally ill bartender on Democrats. Limbaugh can fuck off.

230 Skip Intro  Jan 14, 2015 2:17:14pm

re: #224 Kragar

Jesus was killed because of the Democrats, says Limbaugh someday.

231 Romantic Heretic  Jan 14, 2015 2:18:24pm

re: #118 Kragar

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What Rand means: Because as a law ‘n order candidate I hate that the US is bound by international law. We should be able to go anywhere and do anything we want to whoever we want because we’re the greatest nation evah!

Law is for suckers and weaklings. The strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must.

232 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 2:18:30pm

re: #216 No Country For Old Haters

Hilariously stupid.

Thankfully. If he wasn’t stupid he might not have been caught.

233 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 2:18:34pm

re: #223 CuriousLurker

The only face I didn’t immediately recognize was Nigel Farage. Ugh.

I’m not too familiar with the UKIP. I know we have a few British lizards. A little help guys? Or if you’re a non Brit who knows about the UKIP, that works too. How do they differ from the BNP whom I am more familiar with.

234 Romantic Heretic  Jan 14, 2015 2:19:16pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahaha….just saw this blast from the past on another blog:

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Tha man looks truly demented in that photo.

235 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 2:19:25pm

re: #225 GlutenFreeJesus

“Oye vey!”?

LOL, not exactly the phrase I had in mind, but it sure comes in handy for a lot of situations!

236 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 2:19:37pm

re: #222 Mattand

LOL, I can’t let this go! I’m thinking about typing the following response:

I have better things to do, but the sheer idiocy of this guy’s proposal fascinates me.

As I’ve since posted, I’m now pretty sure the guy was trolling the wingnuts.
Brilliantly.

237 Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2015 2:19:53pm

Wow, Greenwald’s really being more of an asshole than usual today.

Dieudonné is a very nasty piece of work, openly antisemitic in the grossest way. He shouldn’t have been arrested but Greenwald is pretty openly embracing an antisemite with this one.

238 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 2:20:56pm

re: #237 Charles Johnson

Wow, Greenwald’s really being more of an asshole than usual today.

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Dieudonné is a very nasty piece of work, openly antisemitic in the grossest way. He shouldn’t have been arrested but Greenwald is pretty openly embracing an antisemite with this one.

Greenwald sure knows how to pick some real winners doesn’t he?

239 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 2:21:17pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I’m not too familiar with the UKIP. I know we have a few British lizards. A little help guys? Or if you’re a non Brit who knows about the UKIP, that works too. How do they differ from the BNP whom I am more familiar with.

UKIP are nationalists who hate immigration (all those icky brown people) and the EU. They want independence for the UK.

240 Mattand  Jan 14, 2015 2:21:25pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

As I’ve since posted, I’m now pretty sure the guy was trolling the wingnuts.
Brilliantly.

Maybe. It’s definitely in Poe territory.

241 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 14, 2015 2:21:36pm

re: #221 Skip Intro

To be fair, I’ve purchased more than 1,000 rounds of ammo at once, several times. But I’m in IL so I need my FOID card to purchase stuff like that.

242 Justanotherhuman  Jan 14, 2015 2:22:56pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I’m not too familiar with the UKIP. I know we have a few British lizards. A little help guys? Or if you’re a non Brit who knows about the UKIP, that works too. How do they differ from the BNP whom I am more familiar with.

From their Twitter acct, they sound somewhat like a Brit version of the Tea Party.. except with posh accents.

twitter.com

243 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 2:22:56pm

re: #240 Mattand

Maybe. It’s definitely in Poe territory.

I did check the guy’s own FB page. He appears to be quite progressive on social issues and not afraid of ridiculing wingnuts.

244 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 2:23:06pm

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

UKIP are nationalists who hate immigration (all those icky brown people) and the EU. They want independence for the UK.

Right, I figured as much. Trying to figure where they differ from the BNP. I’ve heard Doc Lizardo say they could take enough Conservative votes to give Labout back the premiership.

245 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 2:23:48pm

re: #242 Justanotherhuman

From their Twitter acct, they sound somewhat like a Brit version of the Tea Party.. except with posh accents.

twitter.com

Yeah British wingnuts I do see that. Remind me a lot of the BNP really.

246 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 2:24:31pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Right, I figured as much. Trying to figure where they differ from the BNP. I’ve heard Doc Lizardo say they could take enough Conservative votes to give Labout back the premiership.

BNP like to be thuggish and violent. UKIP tries to appear more “respectable” but fail miserably.

247 bratwurst  Jan 14, 2015 2:25:20pm

re: #237 Charles Johnson

Wow, Greenwald’s really being more of an asshole than usual today.

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Dieudonné is a very nasty piece of work, openly antisemitic in the grossest way. He shouldn’t have been arrested but Greenwald is pretty openly embracing an antisemite with this one.

As I mentioned the other day, it would be easier for Glenn Greenwald to just mention the anti-Semites he DOESN’T admire.

I don’t want to call him a self-hating Jew…but he is a self-hating Jew.

248 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 2:26:32pm

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

BNP like to be thuggish and violent. UKIP tries to appear more “respectable” but fail miserably.

Thanks. So in otherwords the difference between the KKK and say the White Citizens Councils/CCC.

249 Kragar  Jan 14, 2015 2:26:51pm
250 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 2:27:42pm

re: #249 Kragar

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He who shall be ignored by the Sunday talk shows.

251 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 2:28:42pm

re: #248 HappyWarrior

Thanks. So in otherwords the difference between the KKK and say the White Citizens Councils/CCC.

One of my friends in Wales shared this link today on FB:

Disagree with Ukip? Get ready for some angry mail

252 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 14, 2015 2:29:10pm

re: #221 Skip Intro

Apparently this doesn’t ring any bells in a gun shop.

Buying guns and ammo at a guns and ammo store is very suspicious.

253 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 2:30:42pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

One of my friends in Wales shared this link today on FB:

Disagree with Ukip? Get ready for some angry mail

Cool. I have a cousin in Wales myself by the way and another one in England but they don’t really keep up or understand local politics. These guys sound like real arseholes.

254 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 2:32:36pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I’m not too familiar with the UKIP. I know we have a few British lizards. A little help guys? Or if you’re a non Brit who knows about the UKIP, that works too. How do they differ from the BNP whom I am more familiar with.

Me neither, that’s why I didn’t recognize his face. All I know is that they’re right-wing populists. one of whom has renewed calls for Muslims to sign a special charter. Reminds me of oaths Jews were required to take in the past.

255 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 2:33:44pm

re: #254 CuriousLurker

Me neither, that’s why I didn’t recognize his face. All I know is that they’re right-wing populists. one of whom has renewed calls for Muslims to sign a special charter. Reminds me of oaths Jews were required to take in the past.

I’ve heard the name but yeah I didn’t know him by face either. I know Spencer and Gaffney because I remember hearing how Norquist was somehow a Muslim subversive because of his beard and those two having beards themselves- means I am one too by the way!

256 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 2:39:48pm

Fox having the UKIP leader tells you this much though that the American right sees more of themselves in the European far right than they do the Euro mainstream right. Makes given that Cameron seems to like Obama more than he does the GOP and I know Obama and Markel have a decent working relationship as well.

257 KingKenrod  Jan 14, 2015 2:40:38pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

They have responded:
facebook.com

omg…the comments!!!

Here’s a sample (what could possibly go wrong???)

Embedded Image

quick ETA: After doing some followup (including looking at his own FB page), I do believe Todd is brilliantly trolling the wingnuts.

LOL “Could go downhill quickly”. The right wing should have to add that disclaimer to everything they do.

258 krypto  Jan 14, 2015 2:41:44pm

re: #145 blueraven

Oh, well then, by all means. Let us declare ALL MEDIA MUST POST THE FUCKING CARTOONS.

Hell, lets make it a law! Free Speech!

I don’t see anyone declaring that except you, in an effort to invent something absurd in order to try to attack what you alone invented. It’s the kind of straw man argument I would expect on Fox Nation.

I am entitled to criticize CNN for its decision. That is my right, and what I am doing. That is not inappropriately “forcing” anyone to do anything by exercising my right to explain why I consider CNN wrong.

Inappropriately “forcing” a decision on CNN is intimidating them through explicit or implicit threats of violence to make a particular decision. I am a regular CNN viewer and the explanation I heard myself given initially on CNN for why they were not showing the cartoon cover was that they wanted to show it, but needed to consider the safety of their personnel overseas as their first priority.

THAT is forcing them. That is an assault on freedom of expression. Criticizing their bad decision and saying they should have supported freedom of expression and not caved is itself freedom of expression.

259 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 2:44:50pm

re: #116 Dr. Matt

Muslim extremists murder people over cartoons.

Christian extremists murder people over abortion.

Jewish extremists Photoshop people out of pictures.

260 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 2:47:30pm

There was a question this afternoon about kosher/halal fast food. My guy in kashrut has got back to me:

jta.org

Dunkin Donuts also has the store-by-store model.

261 b_sharp  Jan 14, 2015 2:47:49pm

re: #259 The Vicious Babushka

Jewish extremists Photoshop people out of pictures.

And brownie extremists eat themselves sick.

262 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 2:48:24pm

re: #261 b_sharp

And brownie extremists eat themselves sick.

Are you going to declare a jihad on tummy aches Sharp?

263 blueraven  Jan 14, 2015 2:53:04pm

re: #258 krypto

I don’t see anyone declaring that except you, in an effort to invent something absurd in order to try to attack what you alone invented. It’s the kind of straw man argument I would expect on Fox Nation.

I am entitled to criticize CNN for its decision. That is my right, and what I am doing. That is not inappropriately “forcing” anyone to do anything by exercising my right to explain why I consider CNN wrong.

Inappropriately “forcing” a decision on CNN is intimidating them through explicit or implicit threats of violence to make a particular decision. I am a regular CNN viewer and the explanation I heard myself given initially on CNN for why they were not showing the cartoon cover was that they wanted to show it, but needed to consider the safety of their personnel overseas as their first priority.

THAT is forcing them. That is an assault on freedom of expression. Criticizing their bad decision and saying they should have supported freedom of expression and not caved is itself freedom of expression.

Forgive me if I have misrepresented your position. The context of the subject of this OP might be weighing on me a bit. Sure you can criticize all you want, even boycott them. I don’t care.

I still think it is petty to do so though, and that is my right. I think they have the right to consider the safety of their people on the ground.

264 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 2:53:23pm

re: #261 b_sharp

And brownie extremists eat themselves sick.

Just eat mohr brownies…

265 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 14, 2015 2:54:44pm

re: #218 Blind Frog Belly White

“I suppose you’ll be wanting the WHOLE day off tomorrow?”

“If quite convenient, sir.”

Though I did a little bit of extra reading and Christmas as a traditional business holiday goes much further back in England and didn’t need an official statute to establish it as such; e.g. treated like a Sunday. It just gets included in acts that set up what the various bank holidays involve.

266 Kid A  Jan 14, 2015 2:55:39pm
267 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 2:56:53pm

re: #217 CuriousLurker

I remember it. Sadly, anything spoken in Arabic by a Muslim automatically becomes suspect, something indicative of sinister intent:

That phrase is not the least bit sinister in the context of being Muslim:

I have no idea what the equivalent phrase in Hebrew is, but I don’t doubt for a moment that one exists and would be uttered in times of danger or uncertainty.

אני אבטח בה’
Ani evtakh b’Hashem

268 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 2:57:10pm

re: #266 Kid A

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Burn.

269 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 2:57:41pm

re: #267 The Vicious Babushka

אני אבטח ב,
Ani evtakh b’Hashem

Thanks.

270 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 2:58:49pm

re: #266 Kid A

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Dr. Marty & CCJ are extremely displeased that AQ is harshing their meme that Yemen had nothing to do with the Paris attacks.

271 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 3:02:23pm

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dr. Marty & CCJ are extremely displeased that AQ is harshing their meme that Yemen had nothing to do with the Paris attacks.

Any of them! All of them!!11!!

272 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 3:02:55pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Any of them! All of them!!11!!

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He forgot the CIA…

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273 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2015 3:05:04pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

He forgot the CIA…

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I thought it was Mossad

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274 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 3:05:38pm

Welp,

sometime Monday night a bird got into the house, probably through the garage, and ended up in the pantry closet. I told Zedushka to let it out through the garage, but he heard it thrashing around and was afraid to open the pantry because he thought it would fly into his face and then into the house.

So he left it in there thrashing around.

Then I came home and I’m like “did you let the bird out?” and he’s like “No it’s still in there” but there was no more thrashing.

I opened the pantry and it was dead on the floor. While it was thrashing around it strangled itself on the ribbon handle of a gift bag.

That’s so horrible.

Please don’t let birds strangle themselves inside the pantry closet.

275 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 3:05:52pm

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I thought it was Mossad

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Them, too.
He’s slipping…

276 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 3:07:06pm

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

Them, too.
He’s slipping…

Hey, give him some credit. It’s hard to get any traction when you’re off the deep end.

Evening Lizardim.

277 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 3:07:25pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Any of them! All of them!!11!!

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SPECTRE

278 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 3:07:35pm

re: #274 The Vicious Babushka

Welp,

sometime Monday night a bird got into the house, probably through the garage, and ended up in the pantry closet. I told Zedushka to let it out through the garage, but he heard it thrashing around and was afraid to open the pantry because he thought it would fly into his face and then into the house.

So he left it in there thrashing around.

Then I came home and I’m like “did you let the bird out?” and he’s like “No it’s still in there” but there was no more thrashing.

I opened the pantry and it was dead on the floor. While it was thrashing around it strangled itself on the ribbon handle of a gift bag.

That’s so horrible.

Please don’t let birds strangle themselves inside the pantry closet.

Tell Zeduska that a bird in the hair is nowhere near as bat as BATS!!11!!

279 jaunte  Jan 14, 2015 3:08:18pm

Ohio Man Jealous Bartender Michael Robert Hoyt Hogging Spotlight

280 Justanotherhuman  Jan 14, 2015 3:11:06pm

Why isn’t this being discussed more broadly, when thousands of deaths, kidnappings, rapes and other terroristic activities have occurred and more happening every day?

nbcnews.com

Not only was a little girl used as a suicide bomber the other day, but MSNBC also showed a photo of an adult male w/a small boy who was told to execute 2 men (who were kneeling), said to be “spies”.

281 goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2015 3:13:51pm

re: #263 blueraven

I still think it is petty to do so though, and that is my right. I think they have the right to consider the safety of their people on the ground.

Ignoring that, they also have the right to maintain a consistent position, regardless of the topicality of the cartoons or the free speech rights issue at play. Asking that they change that policy in light of a terrorist attack is in effect asking them as a professional news organization to react emotionally to terrorism, to stake a more idealistic position than they did prior to the attack.

I don’t really care if CNN’s decision is based on safety concerns, or are a pragmatic matter of ensuring access to officials in muslim countries, or just a matter of respecting the religious sensibilities of certain employees. I don’t need my news to come from ideological purists, as long as they at least try to adhere to basic journalistic ethics and best practices.

282 dog philosopher  Jan 14, 2015 3:14:25pm

House Takes Action To Keep Hispanics Voting Democratic

will take up alienating senior citizens and women soon

283 b_sharp  Jan 14, 2015 3:14:26pm

re: #262 HappyWarrior

Are you going to declare a jihad on tummy aches Sharp?

Are you saying I shouldn’t?

284 b_sharp  Jan 14, 2015 3:14:44pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just eat mohr brownies…

That’s always been my solution.

285 dog philosopher  Jan 14, 2015 3:16:11pm

i am an atheist extremist

this means i say “bah!” a lot

286 missliberties  Jan 14, 2015 3:16:13pm

Yes we have free speech Joe, but as an elected representative don’t you think that you should demonstrate some responsibility with your words.

You know like not asking for US citizens to be murdered because of a disagreement?

287 b_sharp  Jan 14, 2015 3:16:18pm

re: #274 The Vicious Babushka

Welp,

sometime Monday night a bird got into the house, probably through the garage, and ended up in the pantry closet. I told Zedushka to let it out through the garage, but he heard it thrashing around and was afraid to open the pantry because he thought it would fly into his face and then into the house.

So he left it in there thrashing around.

Then I came home and I’m like “did you let the bird out?” and he’s like “No it’s still in there” but there was no more thrashing.

I opened the pantry and it was dead on the floor. While it was thrashing around it strangled itself on the ribbon handle of a gift bag.

That’s so horrible.

Please don’t let birds strangle themselves inside the pantry closet.

Better to let them beat themselves to death on the window.

288 b_sharp  Jan 14, 2015 3:17:30pm

re: #285 dog philosopher

i am an atheist extremist

this means i say “bah!” a lot

humbug.

289 Justanotherhuman  Jan 14, 2015 3:18:00pm

Does IS video show boy executing Russian agents?

An Islamic State video appears to show a boy aged around 12 executing what it says are two intelligence agents working for Russian intelligence.

channel4.com

I think the video is probably genuine, given the 2 other examples of children being used as suicide bombers by IS and Boko Haram.

290 jaunte  Jan 14, 2015 3:18:45pm

re: #285 dog philosopher

i am an atheist extremist

this means i say “bah!” a lot

“Well, shoot.”

291 blueraven  Jan 14, 2015 3:19:22pm

re: #281 goddamnedfrank

Ignoring that, they also have the right to maintain a consistent position, regardless of the topicality of the cartoons or the free speech rights issue at play. Asking that they change that policy in light of a terrorist attack is in effect asking them as a professional news organization to react emotionally to terrorism, to stake a more idealistic position than they did prior to the attack.

I don’t really care if CNN’s decision is based on safety concerns, or are a pragmatic matter of ensuring access to officials in muslim countries, or just a matter of respecting the religious sensibilities of certain employees. I don’t need my news to come from ideological purists, as long as they at least try to adhere to basic journalistic ethics and best practices.

Agree.

Basically, I expressed a similar position in post
#95

292 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 3:19:57pm

Ever notice how all these would be terrorists almost ALWAYS make the same mistakes? It’s common sense people!

Rule #1: If you’re planning an attack, don’t TELL ANYBODY!

Rule #2: If you’re planning an attack, buy your ammo and weapons in small batches over a period of time.

Rule #3: Pay cash

Rule #4: Don’t post anything about it on the internet.

293 Justanotherhuman  Jan 14, 2015 3:20:43pm

Canadian killed fighting for ISIS in Syria: report

Read more: ctvnews.ca

“Government officials are looking into reports that a Canadian who starred in an ISIS propaganda video has been killed in Syria while fighting for the terrorist group.

“John Maguire, 23, who used the name Abu Anwar Al-Canadi, was killed in northern Syria, according to a pro-ISIS Twitter account.

“The former University of Ottawa student had tried to encourage attacks on Canadian soil in a video posted online last December.” More

294 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 3:20:52pm

re: #292 Eclectic Cyborg

Ever notice how all these would be terrorists almost ALWAYS make the same mistakes?

Rule #1: If you’re planning an attack, don’t TELL ANYBODY!

Rule #2: If you’re planning an attack, buy your ammo and weapons in small batches over a period of time.

Rule #3: Pay cash

Rule #4: Don’t post anything about it on the internet.

We should start a list. Similar to the Evil Overlord list. Things I’d Do If I Were A Terrorist.

Then again, that might get us on just about every FBI watch list ever created.

295 #FergusonFireside  Jan 14, 2015 3:23:24pm

re: #274 The Vicious Babushka

Welp,

sometime Monday night a bird got into the house, probably through the garage, and ended up in the pantry closet. I told Zedushka to let it out through the garage, but he heard it thrashing around and was afraid to open the pantry because he thought it would fly into his face and then into the house.

So he left it in there thrashing around.

Then I came home and I’m like “did you let the bird out?” and he’s like “No it’s still in there” but there was no more thrashing.

I opened the pantry and it was dead on the floor. While it was thrashing around it strangled itself on the ribbon handle of a gift bag.

That’s so horrible.

Please don’t let birds strangle themselves inside the pantry closet.

:( poor birdy.

(is there guano all over everything?)

296 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 3:25:19pm

re: #294 thedopefishlives

We should start a list. Similar to the Evil Overlord list. Things I’d Do If I Were A Terrorist.

Then again, that might get us on just about every FBI watch list ever created.

Funny thing being that it’ll just be common sense.
;)

297 calochortus  Jan 14, 2015 3:26:01pm

re: #289 Justanotherhuman

Does IS video show boy executing Russian agents?

An Islamic State video appears to show a boy aged around 12 executing what it says are two intelligence agents working for Russian intelligence.

channel4.com

I think the video is probably genuine, given the 2 other examples of children being used as suicide bombers by IS and Boko Haram.

Forcing children to kill is a despicable and time-honored technique with creating child soldiers. They are forced to do something so awful they feel they can never leave the group and go back to civil society.
One of those times I wish I believed in Hell so the people do that to children could get their just reward.

298 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 3:26:05pm

re: #296 Varek Raith

Funny thing being that it’ll just be common sense.
;)

It’s a better thing for the world that most real terrorists don’t seem to have a lot of this.

299 Varek Raith  Jan 14, 2015 3:27:16pm

re: #298 thedopefishlives

It’s a better thing for the world that most real terrorists don’t seem to have a lot of this.

300 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2015 3:27:57pm

re: #298 thedopefishlives

It’s a better thing for the world that most real terrorists don’t seem to have a lot of this.

Agreed. I just think it’s funny. I’m no expert terrorist but even I wouldn’t ever make some of the blunders these guys do.

301 Single-handed sailor  Jan 14, 2015 3:31:37pm

Climbers have successfully completed the free climb of the Dawn Face of El Capitan.

302 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 3:31:53pm

re: #294 thedopefishlives

We should start a list. Similar to the Evil Overlord list. Things I’d Do If I Were A Terrorist.

Then again, that might get us on just about every FBI watch list ever created.

Like that time I was tweeting about the difficulty I was having my first time using wires for an armature. One of the lizards was like, “Um, CL? Prolly not a good thing to tweet about.” I LOL because I was talking about the armature for a paperclay sculpture of a bear—it never occurred to me that it might sound like something much more sinister:

Bear armature: aluminum foil, wire, masking tape
(Almost) completed bear
303 Justanotherhuman  Jan 14, 2015 3:32:43pm

re: #301 Single-handed sailor

Climbers have successfully completed the free climb of the Dawn Face of El Capitan.

304 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jan 14, 2015 3:36:32pm

Hideyho, Lizardem! I see UpChuck is hitting the sauce/meth a little early today. Hope everyone is staying thawed out. A chilly single-digit Fahrenheit day here today.

305 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 3:36:51pm

re: #302 CuriousLurker

Like that time I was tweeting about the difficulty I was having my first time using wires for an armature. One of the lizards was like, “Um, CL? Prolly not a good thing to tweet about.” I LOL because I was talking about the armature for a paperclay sculpture of a bear—it never occurred to me that it might sound like something much more sinister:

Image: Bear armature: aluminum foil, wire, masking tapeImage: (Almost) completed bear

I’m sure we’ve all posted, tweeted, emailed, or similarly commented about something that could totally be taken the wrong way if read by an overzealous anti-terrorism unit.

306 dog philosopher  Jan 14, 2015 3:37:21pm

re: #302 CuriousLurker

Like that time I was tweeting about the difficulty I was having my first time using wires for an armature. One of the lizards was like, “Um, CL? Prolly not a good thing to tweet about.” I LOL because I was talking about the armature for a paperclay sculpture of a bear—it never occurred to me that it might sound like something much more sinister:

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Support Our Right To Armature Bears!

307 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 3:38:39pm

re: #306 dog philosopher

Support Our Right To Armature Bears!

What’s wrong with professional bears?

308 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 3:38:46pm
309 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 3:39:02pm

re: #307 Decatur Deb

What’s wrong with professional bears?

You could ask Marc Trestman that question, I hear he’s not busy.

310 Justanotherhuman  Jan 14, 2015 3:40:08pm

re: #305 thedopefishlives

I’m sure we’ve all posted, tweeted, emailed, or similarly commented about something that could totally be taken the wrong way if read by an overzealous anti-terrorism unit.

Remember when people were afraid to even type the word “bomb”? : )

311 dog philosopher  Jan 14, 2015 3:40:39pm

re: #307 Decatur Deb

What’s wrong with professional bears?

they only employ veteran aryans

312 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 3:41:19pm

re: #310 Justanotherhuman

Remember when people were afraid to even type the word “bomb”? : )

Remember? There are a lot of materials I wouldn’t type onto Charles’ blog.

313 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 3:42:09pm

re: #311 dog philosopher

they only employ veteran aryans

You mean when they can’t shit in the woods?

314 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 3:42:48pm

re: #309 thedopefishlives

You could ask Marc Trestman that question, I hear he’s not busy.

I am hearing the Bears want a Fox to replace Trestman.

315 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 3:43:39pm

re: #314 HappyWarrior

I am hearing the Bears want a Fox to replace Trestman.

Yeah, my dad was just telling me about that. He thinks it’s a fantastic idea. I suppose as long as they aren’t saddled with Jay Cutler, he’ll be happy.

316 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 3:45:27pm

re: #315 thedopefishlives

Yeah, my dad was just telling me about that. He thinks it’s a fantastic idea. I suppose as long as they aren’t saddled with Jay Cutler, he’ll be happy.

Yeah that Cutler contract is an albatross. I think Fox will help Da Bears with Da Defense though. I got no dog in the NFC North but football’s better when Da Bears are a competitor.

317 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 3:47:59pm

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Yeah that Cutler contract is an albatross. I think Fox will help Da Bears with Da Defense though. I got no dog in the NFC North but football’s better when Da Bears are a competitor.

As long as they can beat the Vikings, I’m happy. My heart lies with the Colts and the AFC South.

318 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jan 14, 2015 3:48:20pm

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Yeah that Cutler contract is an albatross. I think Fox will help Da Bears with Da Defense though. I got no dog in the NFC North but football’s better when Da Bears are a competitor.

IDK WTF the Bears were thinking with that contract. Cutler was never that good of a QB to begin with. SMDH.

319 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 14, 2015 3:48:27pm

re: #302 CuriousLurker

It’s about our right to bear armatures.

320 TedStriker  Jan 14, 2015 3:52:43pm

re: #217 CuriousLurker

I remember it. Sadly, anything spoken in Arabic by a Muslim automatically becomes suspect, something indicative of sinister intent:

That phrase is not the least bit sinister in the context of being Muslim:

I have no idea what the equivalent phrase in Hebrew is, but I don’t doubt for a moment that one exists and would be uttered in times of danger or uncertainty.

Sounds to me to be more-or-less equivalent to “God help me/us”.

Of course, the Islamophobes and ignoramuses always seem to assume and ascribe ill intent to brown folks who aren’t speaking ‘Mercun.

321 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 3:55:01pm

New update on my 19-year-old nephew: He is on life support right now, but that isn’t going to last long. The doctors are going to put him into a medically induced coma, and they are advising the family that this is the last time they will be able to speak to him. Pray or send good thoughts for Mrs. Fish and for her family; this is going to be rough.

322 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jan 14, 2015 3:56:10pm

re: #321 thedopefishlives

{{{{{fish family}}}}}

My thought are with you and yours and wish peace to surround you all.

323 dog philosopher  Jan 14, 2015 3:56:44pm

re: #313 Decatur Deb

You mean when they can’t shit in the woods?

is the bear catholic?

324 Skip Intro  Jan 14, 2015 4:03:23pm

Ted Nugent calls media ‘retards’ who ‘screw farm animals’ weeks before TV special with Sarah Palin

rawstory.com

325 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jan 14, 2015 4:03:44pm

Stay classy, NRA
The NRA Doctored This Stock Photo to Look Like a Diverse Pro-Gun Rally

Someone should tell these goobers about TinEye.

326 Justanotherhuman  Jan 14, 2015 4:04:49pm

re: #321 thedopefishlives

New update on my 19-year-old nephew: He is on life support right now, but that isn’t going to last long. The doctors are going to put him into a medically induced coma, and they are advising the family that this is the last time they will be able to speak to him. Pray or send good thoughts for Mrs. Fish and for her family; this is going to be rough.

So sorry to hear this. Peace be with everyone.

327 Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2015 4:04:51pm

re: #323 dog philosopher

is the bear catholic?

Don’t know from bears. The wolf from Gubbio is:

en.wikipedia.org

328 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 4:05:35pm

re: #324 Skip Intro

Ted Nugent calls media ‘retards’ who ‘screw farm animals’ weeks before TV special with Sarah Palin

rawstory.com

So will Sarah be condemning Ted for retards the same way she did Rahm Emanuel.// Serious tho, what’s wrong with that guy?

329 b_sharp  Jan 14, 2015 4:07:41pm

re: #321 thedopefishlives

New update on my 19-year-old nephew: He is on life support right now, but that isn’t going to last long. The doctors are going to put him into a medically induced coma, and they are advising the family that this is the last time they will be able to speak to him. Pray or send good thoughts for Mrs. Fish and for her family; this is going to be rough.

{{{{ Fish }}}}

I’m so sorry.

330 Skip Intro  Jan 14, 2015 4:07:44pm

re: #328 HappyWarrior

So will Sarah be condemning Ted for retards the same way she did Rahm Emanuel.// Serious tho, what’s wrong with that guy?

Are you kidding? Sarah be consistent? She’ll probably say the same thing defending him. After all, they are both on the same cable channel.

331 ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2015 4:08:12pm

re: #321 thedopefishlives

New update on my 19-year-old nephew: He is on life support right now, but that isn’t going to last long. The doctors are going to put him into a medically induced coma, and they are advising the family that this is the last time they will be able to speak to him. Pray or send good thoughts for Mrs. Fish and for her family; this is going to be rough.

All my thoughts and I wish the whole family strength.

332 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 4:09:43pm

re: #330 Skip Intro

Are you kidding? Sarah be consistent? She’ll probably say the same thing defending him. After all, they are both on the same cable channel.

I know hence the sarc tags.

333 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 4:12:15pm

re: #318 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

IDK WTF the Bears were thinking with that contract. Cutler was never that good of a QB to begin with. SMDH.

Yeah I didn’t get that either. They should have kept McCown for cheaper and drafted a QB in the early stages of the draft.

334 HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2015 4:14:33pm

re: #321 thedopefishlives

New update on my 19-year-old nephew: He is on life support right now, but that isn’t going to last long. The doctors are going to put him into a medically induced coma, and they are advising the family that this is the last time they will be able to speak to him. Pray or send good thoughts for Mrs. Fish and for her family; this is going to be rough.

I am so sorry. Thoughts to you and your family in this difficult time.

335 Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2015 4:15:32pm

re: #321 thedopefishlives

New update on my 19-year-old nephew: He is on life support right now, but that isn’t going to last long. The doctors are going to put him into a medically induced coma, and they are advising the family that this is the last time they will be able to speak to him. Pray or send good thoughts for Mrs. Fish and for her family; this is going to be rough.

Sending good thoughts your way.

336 lawhawk  Jan 14, 2015 4:20:19pm

re: #299 Varek Raith

That’s why the bad guys are always wearing their brown pants. /Deadpool

337 Justanotherhuman  Jan 14, 2015 4:21:10pm

re: #328 HappyWarrior

So will Sarah be condemning Ted for retards the same way she did Rahm Emanuel.// Serious tho, what’s wrong with that guy?

He’s an old has-been who never left the 70s.

338 dog philosopher  Jan 14, 2015 4:26:23pm

re: #328 HappyWarrior

So will Sarah be condemning Ted for retards the same way she did Rahm Emanuel.// Serious tho, what’s wrong with that guy?

can’t find the can of bug-up-your-ass remover

339 Lidane  Jan 14, 2015 4:27:02pm
340 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 4:27:18pm

re: #339 Lidane

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Welp, they’re screwed.

341 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 4:27:40pm

re: #321 thedopefishlives

Keeping you and yours in my thoughts.

342 SteelPH  Jan 14, 2015 4:28:43pm

re: #339 Lidane

And if they were to win, he would certainly turn on them, like he does with every president.

343 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 4:30:38pm

re: #220 wrenchwench

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And yet Fox is where a host asked a Muslim why he thought he could write a book about Christianity.

344 b.d.  Jan 14, 2015 4:35:31pm

re: #342 SteelPH

And if they were to win, he would certainly turn on them, like he does with every president.

It would be funny if he were to become a government apologist though.

345 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 4:37:43pm

re: #344 b.d.

It would be funny if he were to become a government apologist though.

Yeah, right. If they won, he’d claim that They (tm) replaced them with body doubles and that it’s all part of the plan to make us think we have some semblance of power, yada yada yada.

346 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 4:40:06pm

re: #324 Skip Intro

Ted Nugent calls media ‘retards’ who ‘screw farm animals’ weeks before TV special with Sarah Palin

rawstory.com

A Sarah Palin TV special? There they are at the network being paid nice salaries to come up with new ideas and this is the best that they can do? What’s next, a “Supertrain” reboot?

347 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 4:42:26pm

re: #344 b.d.

It would be funny if he were to become a government apologist though.

Not him, but I saw that very thing happen seamlessly during the Clinton/Bush transition, and then UN-happen during the Bush/Obama transition.

The very same people who decried the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and the FISA court as a ‘secret court’ that allowed Clinton to spy on any American he wanted to for any reason at all back in 2000, argued in 2005 that it was infringing on the Constitutional authority of the President to require him to go to the FISA court for approval to spy on any American he wanted to for any reason at all.

348 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 4:46:25pm

re: #346 Higgs Boson’s Mate

A Sarah Palin TV special? There they are at the network being paid nice salaries to come up with new ideas and this is the best that they can do? What’s next, a “Supertrain” reboot?

Have you SEEN the crap that gets on the hundreds of cable channels? Good lord, not only was ‘Here Comes Honey BooBoo” a SHOW, it was on for years until Mama turned out to be having it off with a registered sex offender.

349 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 4:46:26pm

re: #321 thedopefishlives

New update on my 19-year-old nephew: He is on life support right now, but that isn’t going to last long. The doctors are going to put him into a medically induced coma, and they are advising the family that this is the last time they will be able to speak to him. Pray or send good thoughts for Mrs. Fish and for her family; this is going to be rough.

{{dopefishies}}

350 Skip Intro  Jan 14, 2015 4:46:36pm

re: #346 Higgs Boson’s Mate

A Sarah Palin TV special? There they are at the network being paid nice salaries to come up with new ideas and this is the best that they can do? What’s next, a “Supertrain” reboot?

It’s not really a special, just the same SP program that nobody knows about on a channel nobody watches. The pants shitter has a program on the same channel, so it’s only natural that the two big names would team up for the Quitter and Shitter hour.

351 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jan 14, 2015 4:48:52pm

re: #350 Skip Intro

the Quitter and Shitter hour.

Well done!
352 Justanotherhuman  Jan 14, 2015 4:49:29pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm, etc. : )

353 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 4:52:10pm

re: #321 thedopefishlives

New update on my 19-year-old nephew: He is on life support right now, but that isn’t going to last long. The doctors are going to put him into a medically induced coma, and they are advising the family that this is the last time they will be able to speak to him. Pray or send good thoughts for Mrs. Fish and for her family; this is going to be rough.

Oh man, so young. {{{thedopefishlives}}}

354 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 14, 2015 4:54:40pm

re: #339 Lidane

Who is he going to bitch about if they win? *snark*

355 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 5:05:49pm

re: #348 Blind Frog Belly White

Have you SEEN the crap that gets on the hundreds of cable channels? Good lord, not only was ‘Here Comes Honey BooBoo” a SHOW, it was on for years until Mama turned out to be having it off with a registered sex offender.

Nope, I haven’t seen much at all of it since 2008. I wasn’t a TV enthusiast before then and the election coverage was so bad that I just turned the set off and then forgot to turn it back on. I like old movies, some foreign movies and Brit cop shows. Netflix and DVDs suffice for me.

356 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 5:08:17pm

re: #353 CuriousLurker

Oh man, so young. {{{thedopefishlives}}}

Yeah. He was diagnosed with cancer… two years ago? He fought hard, made a strong recovery, but it came back and in the midst of another round of therapy, developed a fungal infection that ultimately killed him. His family attends my church’s other campus, and the staff over there developed a close relationship with him. It’s been hard on everybody. Through it all, he’s maintained a quiet grace and faith that everyone around him envies. Life just isn’t fair sometimes.

357 urbanmeemaw  Jan 14, 2015 5:13:29pm

re: #224 Kragar

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I used to live near Deer Park (where the bartender lived) and I can assure Limpballs that it is not a hotbed of left wing liberal radicalism. I think when I lived there there were about 5 Democrats.

358 dog philosopher  Jan 14, 2015 5:14:38pm

Prince George receives a giant stuffed wombat toy at Admiralty House in Sydney

brought to you by tristan tzara newsfeed

fish

359 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 5:15:45pm

re: #356 thedopefishlives

Yeah. He was diagnosed with cancer… two years ago? He fought hard, made a strong recovery, but it came back and in the midst of another round of therapy, developed a fungal infection that ultimately killed him. His family attends my church’s other campus, and the staff over there developed a close relationship with him. It’s been hard on everybody. Through it all, he’s maintained a quiet grace and faith that everyone around him envies. Life just isn’t fair sometimes.

This.

So sorry your family has to go through this. My nephew died suddenly at 15 from a ski racing accident and it was a horrible jolt for the whole family I suspect there was a blessing and a curse in the suddenness, just as I suspect there’s a curse and a blessing in it being a long process.

360 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 5:16:58pm
361 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 5:18:16pm

re: #359 Blind Frog Belly White

This.

So sorry your family has to go through this. My nephew died suddenly at 15 from a ski racing accident and it was a horrible jolt for the whole family I suspect there was a blessing and a curse in the suddenness, just as I suspect there’s a curse and a blessing in it being a long process.

He got to come over to the Mrs. Fish’s family home for Christmas. That, I think, made it all worthwhile.

362 urbanmeemaw  Jan 14, 2015 5:20:09pm

re: #279 jaunte

Ohio Man Jealous Bartender Michael Robert Hoyt Hogging Spotlight

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Our local “news” bots were peeing their pants this morning over “a possible terrorist link to Cincinnati”. This evening, on another channel, they showed a picture of a guy on the ground surrounded by police (all you could see was his legs). The evening news bot then said they couldn’t confirm that the guy in the picture was the actual guy who made the threat, at which point I wondered aloud, “Then why in the hell did you show the picture in the first place?”

363 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 5:21:43pm

re: #362 urbanmeemaw

Our local “news” bots were peeing their pants this morning over “a possible terrorist link to Cincinnati”. This evening, on another channel, they showed a picture of a guy on the ground surrounded by police (all you could see was his legs). The evening news bot then said they couldn’t confirm that the guy in the picture was the actual guy who made the threat, at which point I wondered aloud, “Then why in the hell did you show the picture in the first place?”

Because BREAKING NEWS SCOOP, that’s why. It’s just the way the media world works right now, as little sense as it makes.

364 Sionainn  Jan 14, 2015 5:21:47pm

re: #321 thedopefishlives

I’m so sorry to hear this. I’ll keep you in my thoughts and send you a wish for peace and strength for your wife and family.

365 urbanmeemaw  Jan 14, 2015 5:22:04pm

re: #321 thedopefishlives

{{{{fish familly}}}.

366 Dave In Austin  Jan 14, 2015 5:22:17pm

#BarrettJackson

Some awfully pretty iron across the auction block tonite.

367 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jan 14, 2015 5:24:59pm

re: #356 thedopefishlives

Yeah. He was diagnosed with cancer… two years ago? He fought hard, made a strong recovery, but it came back and in the midst of another round of therapy, developed a fungal infection that ultimately killed him. His family attends my church’s other campus, and the staff over there developed a close relationship with him. It’s been hard on everybody. Through it all, he’s maintained a quiet grace and faith that everyone around him envies. Life just isn’t fair sometimes.

I think I can speak for Lizard Nation when I say “Fuck Cancer!”

368 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 14, 2015 5:25:12pm

re: #237 Charles Johnson

He’s trying to establish an equivalence where there is none.

369 Jenner7  Jan 14, 2015 5:26:02pm

re: #321 thedopefishlives

Thinking of you and your family, Mr. Fish.

370 Jenner7  Jan 14, 2015 5:27:00pm

re: #324 Skip Intro

Where’s Palin’s outraged word salad FB post??

371 thedopefishlives  Jan 14, 2015 5:30:11pm

re: #367 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I think I can speak for Lizard Nation when I say “Fuck Cancer!”

Oh, I already had a personal ax to grind with cancer even before this latest shit sandwich.

372 dog philosopher  Jan 14, 2015 5:30:24pm
google car
373 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jan 14, 2015 5:31:19pm

re: #371 thedopefishlives

Oh, I already had a personal ax to grind with cancer even before this latest shit sandwich.

You and me both.

374 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 5:39:55pm

So this is Christopher Cornell 1, 2, 3.

Just wondering if the people who were okay with profiling Muslims are now cool with the police profiling all white guys in their 20’s… Okay, not all of them, just the ones with beards.

375 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 5:40:56pm

re: #373 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

You and me both.

Me too. Killed my wife’s brother, and my Golden Retriever, the best dog ever. Tried to kill my brother, then my wife, then me (thought it didn’t try very hard to kill me).

376 BeachDem  Jan 14, 2015 5:40:58pm

OK—right wingers REALLY don’t understand satire and should stay as far away from it as possible.

On his radio show…the one-term congressman said he had been “exaggerating” and “using satire to make a point.”

He said, however, that he stood by the basic idea of his tweet.

Walsh added: “Put the cowards in line first! Put the appeasers at the front of the line! … I hope they’re at the front of the line to be beheaded.” “The appeasing cowards at every single media outlet in the Western world that refuse to show these Mohammed cartoons…
talkingpointsmemo.com

Um, so where’s this supposed satire? All I see is an unhinged asshole running his mouth as if he actually has a thought in his head.

377 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 14, 2015 5:42:39pm

re: #372 dog philosopher

It’s a prototype to be used in testing the driverless car. If they don’t work very hard on improving its looks it will be both driverless and passengerless.

378 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 5:43:06pm

re: #376 BeachDem

OK—right wingers REALLY don’t understand satire and should stay as far away from it as possible.

On his radio show…the one-term congressman said he had been “exaggerating” and “using satire to make a point.”

He said, however, that he stood by the basic idea of his tweet.

Walsh added: “Put the cowards in line first! Put the appeasers at the front of the line! … I hope they’re at the front of the line to be beheaded.” “The appeasing cowards at every single media outlet in the Western world that refuse to show these Mohammed cartoons…
talkingpointsmemo.com

Um, so where’s this supposed satire? All I see is an unhinged asshole running his mouth as if he actually has a thought in his head.

“It was satire!” is their standard answer when they say shit that even their friends won’t accept. Followed by the “I’m sorry you feel that way” nopology.

379 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 5:43:27pm

re: #372 dog philosopher

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iSetta?

380 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2015 5:44:36pm
381 CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2015 5:44:56pm

re: #376 BeachDem

Satire doesn’t mean what he thinks it means.

But, hey, if he feels that strongly about it there’s no reason he can’t go to the nearest Kinko’s and have them run off some color copies of the cartoons so he can hand them out himself (as opposed to talking smack on a radio program where no one can even see him).

382 Jenner7  Jan 14, 2015 5:47:12pm

Record 346 inmates die, dozens of guards fired in Florida prisons

dailykos.com

After allegedly defecating in his cell, Rainey was handcuffed and locked into a tight shower cell and blasted for nearly two hours with water that was over 180 scolding hot degrees in temperature. Begging for his life, screaming apologies and remorse so loud that other inmates could hear them, the officers kept the water so hot and forceful that the steam began to melt off Darren Rainey’s skin. Video shows Rainey forced into the shower at 7:38 PM and he was pronounced dead at 9:30 PM.

America. My god…

383 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jan 14, 2015 5:48:11pm

re: #382 Jenner7

OMFG!

384 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2015 5:49:01pm

re: #366 Dave In Austin

#BarrettJackson

Some awfully pretty iron across the auction block tonite.

That 1970 Charger R/T - that was one I dreamed of as a kid. That and a 1970 Plymouth GTX.

Oh, and of course, the Challenger.

385 ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2015 6:05:01pm

re: #376 BeachDem

OK—right wingers REALLY don’t understand satire and should stay as far away from it as possible.

On his radio show…the one-term congressman said he had been “exaggerating” and “using satire to make a point.”

He said, however, that he stood by the basic idea of his tweet.

Walsh added: “Put the cowards in line first! Put the appeasers at the front of the line! … I hope they’re at the front of the line to be beheaded.” “The appeasing cowards at every single media outlet in the Western world that refuse to show these Mohammed cartoons…
talkingpointsmemo.com

Um, so where’s this supposed satire? All I see is an unhinged asshole running his mouth as if he actually has a thought in his head.

He’s just feeding all the other unhinged assholes with no thoughts in their heads, of which there are many in the Winger Nutjob camp.

I’ve given up trying to reason why RWNJs do and say the stupid stuff they always say and do. Irrationality can never be explained and most of the time it can’t be changed.

386 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2015 6:09:23pm
387 ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2015 6:09:38pm

re: #382 Jenner7

Record 346 inmates die, dozens of guards fired in Florida prisons

dailykos.com

America. My god…

Fucking Florida. Fucking Rick Scott.

(Sorry good people of Florida…I feel for you.)

388 Jocko's Rocket Ship  Jan 14, 2015 8:44:43pm

re: #318 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Cutler will be kept next year because they have no other options, and have to eat his cap if they cut him. Maybe Fox/new regime can rehabilitate his standing to be tradeable for a return. if not, after next year they can cut him with minimal cap hit going forward.

He’s not in their re-imagined future - the Bears don’t have a chance to be good in the near term, and they’re not going waste nearly $20m of cap space on him while rebuilding at his age and shitty track record. A desperate team that needs a competent QB - and Cutler is surely better than some on otherwise good teams - might bite.


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