Steve Scalise Voted Against MLK Day, but Today He’s Praising MLK

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Republican House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, in the news recently for his associations with white supremacists like David Duke, has a very nice message at his website commemorating MLK Day: Scalise Statement on Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day | Congressman Steve Scalise.

WASHINGTON, D.C. - House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) released the following statement in recognition of Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day.

“As we reflect upon the life of Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., today, we also recognize how our nation has been strengthened by his legacy,” Rep. Scalise said. “Dr. King challenged our country to fulfill the promises of liberty, equality, and justice prescribed in the founding of our great nation. Leading by example, he stressed the teachings of tolerance, service, and love, regardless of race, color, or creed. Today, his writings and speeches continue to empower and inspire those who seek liberty, equality, and justice.”

A lovely sentiment, no? Reading this, you’d never know Scalise voted against making Martin Luther King Jr. Day a state holiday in Louisiana, would you?

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1 CriticalDragon1177  Jan 19, 2015 1:59:31pm

Charles Johnson,

Off course he’s only praising him because his side lost, and he realizes its bad for him politically to be seen as a racist.

At least we know that he enraging other racists, who aren’t smart enough to realize he would lose if he was open with his racism.

2 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 2:03:44pm

His past voting record is not something Scalise will be able to repair with weasley words.

3 Dr. Matt  Jan 19, 2015 2:05:21pm
4 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 2:10:09pm

For crying out loud, Seahawks try to tie in win with MLK Day.

Seahawks Tweet, Delete MLK Quote With Photo Of Crying Russell Wilson

deadspin.com

5 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 19, 2015 2:10:30pm

re: #3 Dr. Matt

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Wow. That is fecking weapons-grade stoopid.

6 Teukka  Jan 19, 2015 2:11:35pm

re: #5 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Wow. That is fecking weapoms-grade stoopid.

Weapons? Wussat? Weaponized pom-poms?
*ducks and slaps self*

7 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 2:11:59pm

re: #5 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Wow. That is fecking weapoms-grade stoopid.

He’s a technical savant with the scalpel—not aware otherwise, evidently.

8 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar  Jan 19, 2015 2:18:48pm

The trick here is: listen to how Scalise re-frames MLK.

Whenever someone wingnut busts out that “equality” thing, what follows is a statement that elides over the specifics of US racism in favor of a general, wishy-washy fake-sincere pablum about “everybody needs tolerance.” Which is why the “equality” thing precedes and follows after dressing down any black person who points out actual, still-occurring racism. It is the cheerful wrapping paper around the concept of “race hustlers” and “professional victim.”

MLK didn’t just speak; he marched into a part of the country where black people could be assaulted with impunity, arrested without cause, and killed with the flimsiest of justifications. He, and a score other civil rights leaders, and myriad upon myriad of brave volunteers, made the world notice the scale and inhumanity of Jim Crow…by being assaulted, arrested, and killed.

9 ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2015 2:19:02pm

re: #4 Justanotherhuman

For crying out loud, Seahawks try to tie in win with MLK Day.

Seahawks Tweet, Delete MLK Quote With Photo Of Crying Russell Wilson

deadspin.com

The Seahawks players are getting to be real hard to take. I guess I am supposed to feel sorry for a bunch of guys making millions and acting like the world is out to get them. Poor babies.

10 klystron  Jan 19, 2015 2:20:57pm

re: #9 ObserverArt

The Seahawks players are getting to be real hard to take. I guess I am supposed to feel sorry for a bunch of guys making millions and acting like the world is out to get them. Poor babies.

I may currently be rooting for a meteor to hit the Super Bowl.

I mean, on one hand, there is Tom Brady and the Patriots. On the other hand, we have the Seahawks.

Of course, the Stanley Cup happened without incident last year so clearly my rooting for this seems rather unlikely.

11 A Cranky One  Jan 19, 2015 2:23:17pm

re: #9 ObserverArt

… I guess I am supposed to feel sorry for a bunch of guys making millions and acting like the world is out to get them. Poor babies.

Yah, the Republicans can get a bit…

Oh, wait. Seahawks?

Never mind ;)

12 ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2015 2:24:16pm

Cover Your Ass.

Of course Scalise is all about MLK now. That is all.

And that last sentence in his statement…

“Today, his writings and speeches continue to empower and inspire those who seek liberty, equality, and justice’”

Too bad I have the feeling Scalise and many in his party have no intentions of seeking liberty, equality and justice.

For anyone.

13 goddamnedfrank  Jan 19, 2015 2:29:39pm
14 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 2:30:22pm

re: #8 The Ghost of a Funky Discarded Egg

He also failed to note that Dr. King was actually killed for his efforts by a white supremacist type that he likes to affiliate with.

15 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2015 2:31:19pm

re: #3 Dr. Matt

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Wait, seriously? Wow.

I always kind of figure that whether one is Black or not is not so much a function of percentage of African ancestry, but rather something like, say, which water faucet you’d be allowed to use in Alabama in 1955.

Any question about that in Obama’s case?

16 sizzzzlerz  Jan 19, 2015 2:32:07pm

Man, that Scalise intern can sure write some sincere shit. Of course, if you can fake sincerity, you’ve got it made.

17 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2015 2:33:26pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

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Even if the conversation was only about what snacks to bring to the next staff meeting, Chuckie knows better than anyone else what the man wanted for the future of his poop-flinging empire!

18 EPR-radar  Jan 19, 2015 2:34:12pm

The GOP can rightly be regarded as a party full of (and dominated by) racists as long as its actions are racist (e.g., disenfranchising people because of imaginary ‘voter fraud’).

Pretty little press release lies, like Scalise’s latest effort, will not change this situation at all.

19 nines09  Jan 19, 2015 2:35:21pm

You know and I know if Steve Scalise was there at that time, at any of those marches, he would have been cheering the dogs that the cops let loose on the marchers. Bullshit. Complete bullshit. That pile of offal has no soul.

20 Dr. Matt  Jan 19, 2015 2:38:43pm
21 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 2:39:49pm

I suppose Ben Carson should be trumpeting this, then?

A DNA test on the television series African American Lives stated that he is of 80% African and 20% European ancestry.[2]

en.wikipedia.org

Otherwise, he’s just another Republican hypocrite.

We’re all a bunch of mutts anyway. And in my view, “race” is a sociological divide, not anything that should make any difference, if we’re honest, and just another barrier to make one group appear “superior” to another, just as religion is wont to do.

22 Mattand  Jan 19, 2015 2:42:53pm

re: #3 Dr. Matt

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Whenever I here stuff like this crap, I can only imagine the anger that Obama’s kids must feel.

It’s hard enough being a teenager; being one in the White House has to be rough.

Being one in the White House when you have seemingly half of the country either questioning your family’s heritage, or just out-and-out wishing your parents were dead, has got to be brutal.

23 Sionainn  Jan 19, 2015 2:44:36pm

re: #21 Justanotherhuman

I suppose Ben Carson should be trumpeting this, then?

A DNA test on the television series African American Lives stated that he is of 80% African and 20% European ancestry.[2]

en.wikipedia.org

Otherwise, he’s just another Republican hypocrite.

We’re all a bunch of mutts anyway. And in my view, “race” is a sociological divide, not anything that should make any difference, if we’re honest, and just another barrier to make one group appear “superior” to another, just as religion is wont to do.

Nice that there’s an actual percentage. One can see just by looking at him that Carson has white blood, too, not that any of that makes any difference whatsoever…at least to me.

24 ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2015 2:45:59pm

re: #21 Justanotherhuman

I suppose Ben Carson should be trumpeting this, then?

A DNA test on the television series African American Lives stated that he is of 80% African and 20% European ancestry.[2]

en.wikipedia.org

Otherwise, he’s just another Republican hypocrite.

We’re all a bunch of mutts anyway. And in my view, “race” is a sociological divide, not anything that should make any difference, if we’re honest, and just another barrier to make one group appear “superior” to another, just as religion is wont to do.

This cartoon by Dr. Seuss always spoke to me in this very regard.

25 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 2:51:17pm

re: #23 Sionainn

Nice that there’s an actual percentage. One can see just by looking at him that Carson has white blood, too, not that any of that makes any difference whatsoever…at least to me.

It shouldn’t make any difference, I agree.

But it wearies me to know how much “tribalism” there remains which keeps damaging our progress as a species. We erect artificial barriers when natural ones disappear, and that is, I think, a remnant of ancient tribalism, whether it’s race, gender or class, and that appears in every society.

26 EPR-radar  Jan 19, 2015 2:55:39pm

re: #19 nines09

You know and I know if Steve Scalise was there at that time, at any of those marches, he would have been cheering the dogs that the cops let loose on the marchers. Bullshit. Complete bullshit. That pile of offal has no soul.

After the civil rights legislation passed in the 1960s, the GOP had an opportunity to do the right thing. They could have told the disgruntled racists fleeing the Democrats this: “vote for us if you want the Democrats to lose, but we aren’t going to change our platform, rhetoric or policies in any way at all in order to accommodate your racist grievances.”

Needless to say, this was the road not taken.

27 nines09  Jan 19, 2015 3:00:55pm

re: #26 EPR-radar

After the civil rights legislation passed in the 1960s, the GOP had an opportunity to do the right thing. They could have told the disgruntled racists fleeing the Democrats this: “vote for us if you want the Democrats to lose, but we aren’t going to change our platform, rhetoric or policies in any way at all in order to accommodate your racist grievances.”

Needless to say, this was the road not taken.

Correct. “The Party Of Lincoln” is the biggest denial of truth since….. Hey a vote is a vote is a vote is a National Platform.

28 allegro  Jan 19, 2015 3:03:15pm

re: #26 EPR-radar

After the civil rights legislation passed in the 1960s, the GOP had an opportunity to do the right thing. They could have told the disgruntled racists fleeing the Democrats this: “vote for us if you want the Democrats to lose, but we aren’t going to change our platform, rhetoric or policies in any way at all in order to accommodate your racist grievances.”

Needless to say, this was the road not taken.

It’s funny to see the party described as some marionette with an entity above making decisions and pulling its strings. The people of that party voted and ran for offices from the local level on up to make their vision real. They have been real successful pulling those who agree with them inside their crazy tent. It’s been going on too openly and for too long for anyone who continues to vote for any representative of the party to claim ignorance or real disagreement with its most hateful policies.

29 nines09  Jan 19, 2015 3:05:46pm

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30 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 19, 2015 3:07:52pm

re: #27 nines09

Correct. “The Party Of Lincoln” is the biggest denial of truth since….. Hey a vote is a vote is a vote is a National Platform.

Exactly. The first Lee Atwater election was when I noticed them trying to co-opt our heroes—suggesting that if Harry Truman or FDR were alive today (1988), they’d be voting Republican. Well, the notion is obscene. If Lincoln were alive today, he’d be voting Democratic, though—and to be fair, if this were 1856 or 1860 or 1864…maybe even 1868, I’d be voting Republican.

What amazes me is that it took people the better part of 75 years to notice that the parties had completely traded positions. Well, I guess the “Party of Lincoln” gomers haven’t gotten the message yet.

31 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 3:09:11pm

Not so long ago…

Racism in America: Small Town 1950s Case Study Documentary Film

A lot of the attitudes expressed in this documentary still prevail today.

32 EPR-radar  Jan 19, 2015 3:13:07pm

re: #31 Justanotherhuman

In my high school history classes, the topic of “Sundown towns” was not covered.

It was quite the eye-opener when I ran across it a few years ago.

en.wikipedia.org

33 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 19, 2015 3:14:58pm

re: #31 Justanotherhuman

Not so long ago…

Racism in America: Small Town 1950s Case Study Documentary Film

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A lot of the attitudes expressed in this documentary still prevail today.

Those are some awsome bad lipreading subtitles…

34 EPR-radar  Jan 19, 2015 3:16:28pm

re: #28 allegro

It’s funny to see the party described as some marionette with an entity above making decisions and pulling its strings. The people of that party voted and ran for offices from the local level on up to make their vision real. They have been real successful pulling those who agree with them inside their crazy tent. It’s been going on too openly and for too long for anyone who continues to vote for any representative of the party to claim ignorance or real disagreement with its most hateful policies.

All the updings and this x100. Since the civil rights alignment, the GOP has become a party of evil in US politics in a way that has few parallels in US history. The fatal embrace of slavery by Democrats in the 1850s seems to be the only real analogy.

35 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 3:16:55pm

re: #32 EPR-radar

In my high school history classes, the topic of “Sundown towns” was not covered.

It was quite the eye-opener when I ran across it a few years ago.

en.wikipedia.org

Described by former NAACP President Julian Bond as “One of the survival tools of segregated life”,[10] The Negro Motorist Green Book (at times titled The Negro Traveler’s Green Book or The Negro Motorist Green-Book, and commonly referred to simply as the “Green Book”) was an annual, segregation-era guidebook published by Hackensack, New Jersey letter carrier turned New York travel agent Victor H. Green, for African-American motorists.[10] It was published in the United States from 1936 to 1966, during the Jim Crow era, when discrimination against non-whites was widespread.[11][12] Road trips for African-Americans were fraught with inconveniences, even dangers, because of racial segregation, racial profiling by police, the phenomenon of travelers just “disappearing”, and the existence of numerous sundown towns. According to the Huffington Post, “there were at least 10,000 “sundown towns” in the United States as late as the 1960s; in a ‘sundown town’ nonwhites had to leave the city limits by dusk, or they could be picked up by the police or worse. These towns were not limited to the South—they ranged from Levittown, N.Y., to Glendale, Calif., and included the majority of municipalities in Illinois.”[10]

36 Varek Raith  Jan 19, 2015 3:19:46pm

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Miscarriages baths are doing.

37 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 3:23:50pm

I watched this movie last night (1949). It brought back some memories of my earlier life as a small child in the south. I couldn’t do anything about anything as a small kid, of course, but as I grew, I disavowed all of the attitudes I was supposed to adopt.

shop.tcm.com

38 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 3:30:44pm

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Those are some awsome bad lipreading subtitles…

Haha, yeah, I turned them off—too distracting.

But worse was the “horror” of socializing with “the colored”. William and Daisy Myers were trailblazers.

Levitt & Sons would not sell homes to African Americans. Levitt did not consider himself to be a racist, considering housing and racial relations entirely separate matters. However, this did not prevent a European-American family from reselling a home to an African-American family, and Levittown’s first black couple, William and Daisy Myers, bought a home in the Dogwood Hollow section in 1957.[5] Their move to Levittown was marked with racist harassment and mob violence, which required intervention by state authorities.[6] This led to an injunction and criminal charges against the harassers while Myers and their supporters refused to surrender and received national acclaim for their efforts. For instance, Daisy Myers has been hailed as “The Rosa Parks of the North”,[7] who helped expose the northern states’ problems with racial inequality of that time. Daisy Myers later wrote a book about her family’s experiences.[8] She died Dec. 5, 2011, in York, Pa.[9]

en.wikipedia.org

39 ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2015 3:32:20pm

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

Described by former NAACP President Julian Bond as “One of the survival tools of segregated life”,[10] The Negro Motorist Green Book (at times titled The Negro Traveler’s Green Book or The Negro Motorist Green-Book, and commonly referred to simply as the “Green Book”) was an annual, segregation-era guidebook published by Hackensack, New Jersey letter carrier turned New York travel agent Victor H. Green, for African-American motorists.[10] It was published in the United States from 1936 to 1966, during the Jim Crow era, when discrimination against non-whites was widespread.[11][12] Road trips for African-Americans were fraught with inconveniences, even dangers, because of racial segregation, racial profiling by police, the phenomenon of travelers just “disappearing”, and the existence of numerous sundown towns. According to the Huffington Post, “there were at least 10,000 “sundown towns” in the United States as late as the 1960s; in a ‘sundown town’ nonwhites had to leave the city limits by dusk, or they could be picked up by the police or worse. These towns were not limited to the South—they ranged from Levittown, N.Y., to Glendale, Calif., and included the majority of municipalities in Illinois.”[10]

I knew a small town in north central Ohio that never had any African American families living in it for all my years as a youth, until I left the area for good my third year of college, in 1974.

I had cousins that lived there. And I have mentioned around here before, I grew up in a small city on the wrong side of the tracks shall we say. I grew up with African American friends from the families around my neighborhood.

So, I was always very aware of the fact my cousins never came to our house. And I was always very aware that there were no people of color there in their little town…my world was so different. A great social education.

I never quite got the real facts about how it was all maintained, but I had heard that if a family wanted to move in they were strongly discourage it wasn’t in their best interest and should just go somewhere else. It was a small town, so it didn’t have a lot going for it, so I imagine its reputation and its status just caused people to move along, why mess with it.

I do not know how it is anymore. I really do not have a lot to do with that part of the family, so haven’t gone back to that town a lot. I also learned why some of my relatives lived there and were just fine it was the way it was. It has all been very educational.

40 PhillyPretzel  Jan 19, 2015 3:42:26pm

OT Whew. I just finished putting together one of those elfa carts and now my new LG flat screen TV is on top of it and the accessories are in the bins.

41 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 3:46:50pm

re: #40 PhillyPretzel

OT Whew. I just finished putting together one of those elfa carts and now my new LG flat screen TV is on top of it and the accessories are in the bins.

Ours is wall-mounted. To prevent damage from the curious munchkin.

42 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2015 3:49:51pm

The woman is an idiot.

43 PhillyPretzel  Jan 19, 2015 3:50:42pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

I would agree but I do not want to insult idiots. //

44 Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2015 3:51:35pm

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait, seriously? Wow.

I always kind of figure that whether one is Black or not is not so much a function of percentage of African ancestry, but rather something like, say, which water faucet you’d be allowed to use in Alabama in 1955.

Any question about that in Obama’s case?

One drop of black blood, not a drop of white water.

45 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2015 3:52:23pm

I’ve mentioned this before, that the area I grew up in was whiter than white, with the only non-whites being migrant workers who came up from the South in summer to pick cherries, then peaches, then apples before heading back South again in November. Their children went to our schools for a month or so in the Fall. As you can imagine, they were poor, they spoke with heavy accents, and they were above all DIFFERENT, so none of us played with them. And we never saw them again - I don’t think they came back to the same farms every year.

All the way through High School, there were a grand total of TWO Puerto Rican families that lived permanently in that school district. No blacks. There were two Korean girls in our school but they were adopted. The nearest town of any size, Gettysburg, had a small number of black families, who all lived on one street.

The whole area was so UN-diverse that the Italian-surnamed family that moved into town from Pittsburgh seemed exotic. Hell, we felt like outsiders the whole time I lived there - everyone else’s family had been there for 150 years or more.

I don’t know that there was ever any official segregation, nor do I remember seeing any ‘Sundown Town’ signs, but MAN, if you were black, the area would have felt profoundly unwelcoming.

46 Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2015 3:54:08pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, and envy.

Palin has nothing else.

47 CuriousLurker  Jan 19, 2015 3:55:00pm

Someone really needs to tweet this to Bryan Fischer. LOL

48 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 3:57:04pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

The woman is an idiot.

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It shocked me when I saw that the movie made $90M in ticket sales this past weekend. And it scared me to think that so many want to celebrate killing.

49 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2015 3:57:21pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

The woman is an idiot.

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The hero worship of somebody who killed at least 160 people concerns me. I understand the need for snipers, and I understand that they are vital in the kind of wars we have been getting into. I grasp that they are not evil people.

But still, there has to be something not quite right to be able to do that for a living. “A certain moral flexibility”, to quote Grosse Pointe Blank, that leaves me a little queasy about making them into heroes and role models.

50 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 4:00:45pm

“American Sniper” is based on Navy SEAL Chris Kyle’s 2012 memoir, which details his life as the most lethal shooter in U.S. military history. In the book, Kyle, who was killed in 2013, allegedly by a fellow veteran at a gun range, wrote “The enemy are savages and despicably evil,” and that his “only regret is that I didn’t kill more.” In the wake of the film’s success, some critics have slammed the project for appearing to promote pro-war sentiments.” (my emphasis)

msnbc.com

How many were actually “enemies”, much less “savages”?

51 dog philosopher  Jan 19, 2015 4:03:15pm

surely by now teabaggers have declared martin luther king jr to be against affirmative action and we’re only one step away from having him described as pro-segregation

52 dog philosopher  Jan 19, 2015 4:07:36pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

God bless our troops, especially our snipers. Hollywood leftists: while caressing shiny plastic trophies you…

cowardly fascists always believe all problems can be solved with enough bullets, and project their own weaknesses on their opponents

53 TedStriker  Jan 19, 2015 4:10:54pm

re: #49 Blind Frog Belly White

The hero worship of somebody who killed at least 160 people concerns me. I understand the need for snipers, and I understand that they are vital in the kind of wars we have been getting into. I grasp that they are not evil people.

But still, there has to be something not quite right to be able to do that for a living. “A certain moral flexibility”, to quote Grosse Pointe Blank, that leaves me a little queasy about making them into heroes and role models.

To think, snipers traditionally have been singled out for severe and swift retribution and typically given no quarter if captured by the enemy and their captors found out what they did; it’s a extremely difficult job to do, and do well, while not getting caught by the enemy. I’m not saying Chris Kyle should have been put on a pedestal, especially since he was a huge self-promoter of his own exploits, starting with his book, but IMO, he wouldn’t have been fit to carry Carlos Hathcock’s rifle:

Hathcock once said that he survived in his work because of an ability to “get in the bubble,” to put himself into a state of “utter, complete, absolute concentration,” first with his equipment, then his environment, in which every breeze and every leaf meant something, and finally on his quarry.[31] After the war, a friend showed Hathcock a passage written by Ernest Hemingway: “Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and like it, never really care for anything else thereafter.” He copied Hemingway’s words on a piece of paper. “He got that right,” Hathcock said. “It was the hunt, not the killing.”[17] Hathcock said in a book written about his career as a sniper: “I like shooting, and I love hunting. But I never did enjoy killing anybody. It’s my job. If I don’t get those bastards, then they’re gonna kill a lot of these kids dressed up like Marines. That’s the way I look at it.”[32]

54 PhillyPretzel  Jan 19, 2015 4:14:52pm

re: #53 TedStriker

I was going to mention Hathcock and I looked him up on wiki. en.wikipedia.org

55 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 19, 2015 4:16:23pm

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

Described by former NAACP President Julian Bond as “One of the survival tools of segregated life”,[10] The Negro Motorist Green Book (at times titled The Negro Traveler’s Green Book or The Negro Motorist Green-Book, and commonly referred to simply as the “Green Book”) was an annual, segregation-era guidebook published by Hackensack, New Jersey letter carrier turned New York travel agent Victor H. Green, for African-American motorists.[10] It was published in the United States from 1936 to 1966, during the Jim Crow era, when discrimination against non-whites was widespread.[11][12] Road trips for African-Americans were fraught with inconveniences, even dangers, because of racial segregation, racial profiling by police, the phenomenon of travelers just “disappearing”, and the existence of numerous sundown towns. According to the Huffington Post, “there were at least 10,000 “sundown towns” in the United States as late as the 1960s; in a ‘sundown town’ nonwhites had to leave the city limits by dusk, or they could be picked up by the police or worse. These towns were not limited to the South—they ranged from Levittown, N.Y., to Glendale, Calif., and included the majority of municipalities in Illinois.”[10]

Sounds like some sort of “no go” zone. Why isn’t Fox and CNN all over it?
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56 retired cynic  Jan 19, 2015 4:16:49pm

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

Our little local village used to be a ‘sundown town.’ I was amazed when I moved here and heard about it. Times are slowly changing, but there are very few black families still.

57 Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 19, 2015 4:17:48pm

The late Chris Kyle bothers me a lot less than the people who lionize him not so much for the Americans he protected, but more for the MOOOZLIMMMZZZ!!1!1! he killed doing it.

58 TedStriker  Jan 19, 2015 4:24:12pm

re: #54 PhillyPretzel

I was going to mention Hathcock and I looked him up on wiki. en.wikipedia.org

And, for all of his citations, decorations, and long years of service, Hathcock got massively screwed by the USMC at the end of his career:

Medical evacuation
Hathcock’s career as a sniper came to a sudden end along Route 1, north of LZ Baldy in September 1969, when the amtrack he was riding on, an LVT-5, struck an anti-tank mine. Hathcock pulled seven Marines off the flame-engulfed vehicle and was severely burned before jumping to safety. While recovering, Hathcock received the Purple Heart. Nearly 30 years later, he would receive the Silver Star for this action.[10] All eight injured Marines were evacuated by helicopter to the USS Repose (AH-16), then to a Naval Hospital in Tokyo, and ultimately to the burn center at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, Texas.

After the Vietnam War
After returning to active duty, Hathcock helped establish the Marine Corps Scout Sniper School, at the Marine base in Quantico, Virginia. Due to his extreme injuries suffered in Vietnam, he was in nearly constant pain, but he continued to dedicate himself to teaching snipers. In 1975, Hathcock’s health began to deteriorate, and he was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. He stayed in the Corps, but his health continued to decline, and was forced to retire just 55 days short of the 20 years that would have made him eligible for full retirement pay. Being medically retired, he received 100 percent disability. He would have received only 50 percent of his final pay grade had he retired after 20 years. He fell into a state of depression when he was forced out of the Marines, because he felt as if the service had kicked him out. During this depression, his wife Jo nearly left him, but decided to stay. Hathcock eventually picked up the hobby of shark fishing, which helped him overcome his depression.[29]

Hathcock provided sniper instruction to police departments and select military units, such as SEAL Team Six.[30]

Fifty-five days short and the government screwed him out of half his retirement pay…shameful, that’s what it is.

Edit: I’m a dumbass and that Wiki editor need to learn some proper sentence structure. Hathcock, being medically retired at 100% disability, did apparently get full retirement pay, despite being 55 days short of twenty years.

59 b_sharp  Jan 19, 2015 4:31:13pm

re: #58 TedStriker

And, for all of his citations, decorations, and long years of service, Hathcock got massively screwed by the USMC at the end of his career:

Fifty-five days short and the government screwed him out of half his retirement pay…shameful, that’s what it is.

Edit: It doesn’t say whether 100% disability is 100% of his normal pay, but his retirement pay was 50% of his normal pay.

60 TedStriker  Jan 19, 2015 4:33:43pm

re: #59 b_sharp

It says he got 100% of his retirement pay.

So I misread that apparently…he did wind up getting his full retirement pay, but would not have if he had not been medically retired at 100% disability?

Whoever edited that section needs a bit of a lesson in sentence structure.

61 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 4:35:17pm

U.S.: No Need to Evacuate American Embassy in Yemen Amid Clashes

nbcnews.com

62 Skip Intro  Jan 19, 2015 4:38:30pm

I don’t know why this wasn’t Breaking News.

The vapors-powered locomotive of yet another soon-to-be-forgotten Presidential Exploratory committee seethed flatulently out of the station today as Senator Lindsey Graham (R-Closet As Deep As The Ausable Chasm) —— dropped a hanky, pulled off his glass slipper and heaved it at Prince Charming’s head and dipped a dainty toe into the turbulent waters of the 2016 Republican Race For Sheldon Adelson’s Wallet.

driftglass.blogspot.com

63 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 4:41:02pm

re: #62 Skip Intro

Embedded Image

I don’t know why this wasn’t Breaking News.

driftglass.blogspot.com

He’s just going to try to throw a monkey wrench into the SC primary which is one of the earliest ones.

64 b_sharp  Jan 19, 2015 4:41:57pm

re: #60 TedStriker

So I misread that apparently…he did wind up getting his full retirement pay, but would not have if he had not been medically retired at 100% disability?

Whoever edited that section needs a bit of a lesson in sentence structure.

Yes he/she does.

65 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 4:45:47pm

Wow, only bureaucrats have electricity at night…

66 plansbandc  Jan 19, 2015 4:46:03pm

Republican friend just saw “American Sniper” and talked about how the audience was silent after the film was over. “Out of respect”.

Uh, maybe some. I’m guessing (hoping) there were some who were silent in horror over the glorification of murder in the guise of patriotism.

Hoping.

67 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2015 4:47:07pm
68 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 4:48:44pm

re: #66 plansbandc

Republican friend just saw “American Sniper” and talked about how the audience was silent after the film was over. “Out of respect”.

Uh, maybe some. I’m guessing (hoping) there were some who were silent in horror over the glorification of murder in the guise of patriotism.

Hoping.

Or so intoxicated over it that they passed out.

I’ll pass, thanks. I’d rather see Paddington with the munchkin.

69 jaunte  Jan 19, 2015 4:50:11pm
70 Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2015 4:54:07pm

An MLK Day exercise: Check your Craigslist under the “events” page for a Klan recruiting effort. Our local CL is carrying one from N. Florida. It would be interesting to see if this is a one-off or an organized exploit.

71 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2015 4:55:30pm

re: #66 plansbandc

Republican friend just saw “American Sniper” and talked about how the audience was silent after the film was over. “Out of respect”.

Uh, maybe some. I’m guessing (hoping) there were some who were silent in horror over the glorification of murder in the guise of patriotism.

Hoping.

And then there are these reactions (YIKES!):

72 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 4:55:30pm

re: #70 Decatur Deb

What category was it under? I have 2 to check.

73 Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2015 4:56:35pm

re: #72 Justanotherhuman

What category was it under? I have 2 to check.

Upper left of our format—under “Events”, and that under “Community”.

74 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 19, 2015 4:58:23pm

re: #70 Decatur Deb

An MLK Day exercise: Check your Craigslist under the “events” page for a Klan recruiting effort. Our local CL is carrying one from N. Florida. It would be interesting to see if this is a one-off or an organized exploit.

Not up here in the northwoods. A vintage snowmobile swap meet that might be interesting though :D

75 Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2015 5:01:31pm

re: #74 William Barnett-Lewis

Not up here in the northwoods. A vintage snowmobile swap meet that might be interesting though :D

It’s a bitch when your sheet gets taken up in your track.

76 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 5:03:20pm

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Upper left of our format—under “Events”, and that under “Community”.

Didn’t see anything under Charlotte or Hickory, so it may have been just your area?

77 compound_Idaho  Jan 19, 2015 5:03:48pm

re: #66 plansbandc

Republican friend just saw “American Sniper” and talked about how the audience was silent after the film was over. “Out of respect”.

Uh, maybe some. I’m guessing (hoping) there were some who were silent in horror over the glorification of murder in the guise of patriotism.

Hoping.

We ask these young men to do a horrific job on our behalf.

78 Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2015 5:04:30pm

re: #76 Justanotherhuman

Didn’t see anything under Charlotte or Hickory, so it may have been just your area?

Yeah. We’re blessed that way. Most of the crazy shit comes from across the FL border around Crestview.

79 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 5:05:41pm

re: #77 compound_Idaho

We ask these young men to do a horrific job on our behalf.

I didn’t, esp Iraq.

80 klystron  Jan 19, 2015 5:06:51pm

re: #77 compound_Idaho

We ask these young men to do a horrific job on our behalf.

Which is why we should glorify someone who described the people he shot as savages?

81 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2015 5:07:46pm

I just participated in a Stanford University study poll and one of the questions was “Would you favor or oppose a law which would require a person to obtain a police permit before he or she could buy a gun?”

I’m all for considering reasonable gun control laws, but the suggestion in that question makes my skin crawl.

82 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 5:10:08pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just participated in a Stanford University study poll and one of the questions was “Would you favor or oppose a law which would require a person to obtain a police permit before he or she could buy a gun?”

I’m all for considering reasonable gun control laws, but the suggestion in that question makes my skin crawl.

A permit from the Sheriff’s Dept is required in NC. But a lot of them are “pro forma” and just checked for criminal records.

83 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 19, 2015 5:11:22pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just participated in a Stanford University study poll and one of the questions was “Would you favor or oppose a law which would require a person to obtain a police permit before he or she could buy a gun?”

I’m all for considering reasonable gun control laws, but the suggestion in that question makes my skin crawl.

That’s essentially how it is in Massachusetts & Illinois. Not a good solution to real problems in my book but then, I’m a rural Democrat not an urban one.

84 ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2015 5:12:11pm

Anyone familiar with the military…does a soldier get asked if he wants to train to be a sniper?

Is there a special school that weeds out those that might be a bit too gung-ho and a risk and those that might have psychological issues along with the equipment and marksmen training?

I imagine it takes a ‘unique’ individual to be a sniper. I don’t think you can make just anybody into one.

85 goddamnedfrank  Jan 19, 2015 5:12:56pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just participated in a Stanford University study poll and one of the questions was “Would you favor or oppose a law which would require a person to obtain a police permit before he or she could buy a gun?”

I’m all for considering reasonable gun control laws, but the suggestion in that question makes my skin crawl.

That’s essentially what a NICS check is though.

86 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2015 5:13:56pm

re: #82 Justanotherhuman

re: #83 William Barnett-Lewis

I thought the question was much too open-ended and vague.
If it had been specific to criminal background checks, I wouldn’t have a problem.

87 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 5:13:59pm

Terror alert for police raised to high

sbs.com.au

(snip)

“Australia is currently at a High level of alert publicly, the second highest rating in the National Terrorism Public Alert System.

According to Australian National Security, a “terrorist attack is likely”.

88 Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2015 5:14:28pm
89 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2015 5:14:29pm

re: #20 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

The die hard UFO enthusiast in me thanks you so much for this!!

90 Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2015 5:14:38pm

re: #84 ObserverArt

Anyone familiar with the military…does a soldier get asked if he wants to train to be a sniper?

Is there a special school that weeds out those that might be a bit too gung-ho and a risk and those that might have psychological issues along with the equipment and marksmen training?

I imagine it takes a ‘unique’ individual to be a sniper. I don’t think you can make just anybody into one.

It wasn’t a big deal in the Army when I knew it. There are schools, esp in the USMC, and I imagine it’s hard competition to get in.

91 Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2015 5:15:24pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought the question was much too open-ended and vague.
If it had been specific to criminal background checks, I wouldn’t have a problem.

Also badly-defined. Handgun or rifle/shotgun?

92 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 5:15:56pm

re: #84 ObserverArt

Anyone familiar with the military…does a soldier get asked if he wants to train to be a sniper?

Is there a special school that weeds out those that might be a bit too gung-ho and a risk and those that might have psychological issues along with the equipment and marksmen training?

I imagine it takes a ‘unique’ individual to be a sniper. I don’t think you can make just anybody into one.

Kyle was a Seal. Before he joined the military, he was a rodeo cowboy.

One is not necessarily related to the other, but the mentality might be.

93 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 19, 2015 5:16:22pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

That’s essentially what a NICS check is though.

Yes, but I can envision how a loosely defined requirement for a local police department permit can be abused.
Guess I’m just picky about details.

94 ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2015 5:16:37pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought the question was much too open-ended and vague.
If it had been specific to criminal background checks, I wouldn’t have a problem.

I wonder if using the term ‘police’ permit skews the poll in some way. Wouldn’t you get a whole different response if you asked about gun permits with a state department rather than saying “the police?”

95 Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2015 5:16:41pm
96 goddamnedfrank  Jan 19, 2015 5:21:03pm
97 ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2015 5:21:10pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

Tweetslide.

Nice. Is that something you cooked up for LGF in your mad coding skillz?

98 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 5:21:11pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

I watch the evolution of dogs on PBS last night (well, partly). It was a very quick (about 15K years) evolution from wolf to dogs that could be domesticated.

That’s a huge one, though. Prefer much smaller lap dogs. : )

99 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 19, 2015 5:23:06pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

It wasn’t a big deal in the Army when I knew it. There are schools, esp in the USMC, and I imagine it’s hard competition to get in.

Major hard school to get into these days. Mostly Rangers or equally hard types get in. Lots of hard work and I do believe there is a psychological eval though it’s not looking for normal.

A Ranger sniper I know put it best: Anyone can be a sniper. Once. But to watch that through the scope more than once takes a different kind of person and that isn’t always a nice person.

He’s a good man, quite the leftist and with lots of medical problems from his time in, but I can get that vibe from him once in awhile.

SLA Marshall’s “Men Against Fire” & Grossman’s “On Killing” both talk about how few soldiers in combat actively fire to kill. There is also a strong argument that those who do suffer from a greater level of PTSD and that the increasing number of troops with PTSD is due to the training from Vietnam forward to make more of us soldiers shoot to kill.

100 ObserverArt  Jan 19, 2015 5:26:15pm

re: #99 William Barnett-Lewis

Major hard school to get into these days. Mostly Rangers or equally hard types get in. Lots of hard work and I do believe there is a psychological eval though it’s not looking for normal.

A Ranger sniper I know put it best: Anyone can be a sniper. Once. But to watch that through the scope more than once takes a different kind of person and that isn’t always a nice person.

He’s a good man, quite the leftist and with lots of medical problems from his time in, but I can get that vibe from him once in awhile.

SLA Marshall’s “Men Against Fire” & Grossman’s “On Killing” both talk about how few soldiers in combat actively fire to kill. There is also a strong argument that those who do suffer from a greater level of PTSD and that the increasing number of troops with PTSD is due to the training from Vietnam forward to make more of us soldiers shoot to kill.

This is what I was sort of expecting to hear about someone becoming a sniper. Thanks for the reply.

101 Decatur Deb  Jan 19, 2015 5:27:21pm

re: #99 William Barnett-Lewis

Major hard school to get into these days. Mostly Rangers or equally hard types get in. Lots of hard work and I do believe there is a psychological eval though it’s not looking for normal.

A Ranger sniper I know put it best: Anyone can be a sniper. Once. But to watch that through the scope more than once takes a different kind of person and that isn’t always a nice person.

He’s a good man, quite the leftist and with lots of medical problems from his time in, but I can get that vibe from him once in awhile.

SLA Marshall’s “Men Against Fire” & Grossman’s “On Killing” both talk about how few soldiers in combat actively fire to kill. There is also a strong argument that those who do suffer from a greater level of PTSD and that the increasing number of troops with PTSD is due to the training from Vietnam forward to make more of us soldiers shoot to kill.

Yeah—TRADOC started tweaking ‘ordinary’ marksmanship courses bigtime after the Korean-era Marshall data. I got a woozy feeling in Basic (‘65) when it was obvious our experienced instructors respected the hostiles much more than our allies.

102 Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2015 5:30:30pm

re: #97 ObserverArt

Nice. Is that something you cooked up for LGF in your mad coding skillz?

Yup. Since all embedded tweets are saved in our Media Library, it’s a snap to scan through them looking for images and create a slideshow with them, using the Fancybox jQuery plugin.

The code looks a little something like this.

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    fancyBoxSettings = {
		type: 'image',
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    	closeEffect: 'elastic',
    	playSpeed: 5000,
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    	scrolling: 'no',
        nextEffect: 'fade',
        prevEffect: 'fade',
        nextSpeed: 'slow',
        prevSpeed: 'slow',
 		beforeLoad: function() {
			if (this.element.data('tooltip')) {
				this.element.data('tooltip').hide();
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			var span = this.element.parents('.imgdiv').find('span');
			if (span.length) {
				this.title = span.text();
			} else {
				this.title = $(this).attr('href').split('/').pop();
			}
		}
	},
	allImagesSettings = { 
        autoPlay: true,
        playSpeed: 7000,
        loop: true,
		beforeLoad: function() {
			this.title = this.title;
		},
		afterClose: function() {
			fancyboxTrigger.prop('disabled', false).removeClass('dis');
		},
		helpers: {
			thumbs: {
				width: 50,
				height: 50,
				source : function( item ) {
					return item.href.replace(':large', ':thumb');
				}
			},
			buttons: {}
		}
	};
$('body').on('click', '.tweetslide', function() {
	var that = $(this);
	that.prop('disabled', true).addClass('dis');
	$.getJSON('tweetimages.php', {}, function(allImages) {
		if (!allImages.length) {
			alert('No images found!');
			that.prop('disabled', false).removeClass('dis')
		} else {
			fancyboxTrigger = that;
			$.fancybox.open(allImages, $.extend(true, fancyBoxSettings, allImagesSettings));
		}
	});
	return false;
});

(Quickly reformatted to post here - may contain errors. Do not try this at home.)

103 Charles Johnson  Jan 19, 2015 5:32:38pm

(The code makes an Ajax call to the server, to access the database and pull the tweets out of the Media Library.)

104 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 19, 2015 5:34:27pm

re: #101 Decatur Deb

Yeah—TRADOC started tweaking ‘ordinary’ marksmanship courses bigtime after the Korean-era Marshall data. I got a woozy feeling in Basic (‘65) when it was obvious our experienced instructors respected the hostiles much more than our allies.

There was an element of that towards the soviets at Armor school in the early 80’s. The T80 was a great unknown at that point and we thought it would be able to eat M1’s for breakfast.

105 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 5:36:00pm
106 palomino  Jan 19, 2015 5:36:06pm

re: #3 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

And this is exactly why Ben Carson’s presidential bid will go the way of Rick Perry’s, Herman Cain’s, and quite a few other idiots over the years. Their rhetorical skills are so lacking that they just can’t keep from saying stupid shit nearly every day, and that applies whether they’re attempting to be funny or serious. Which may get you publicity, but the wrong kind for someone who wants to be taken seriously as a leader.

Finally, as to the issue of other black presidential candidates, I don’t think this country is so stupid as to think all 45 million African-Americans are responsible for Obama’s failures and triumphs. Nor that he is responsible for all of them. There’s no black candidate truly viable in either party right now for 2016. I doubt if that’s a result of most non-blacks thinking to themselves, “We’ve tried this black president thing once. I don’t like Obama, therefore no black person should ever be prez again.”

107 dog philosopher  Jan 19, 2015 5:37:11pm

5 things to know about World Economic Forum in Davos

#1: you ain’t invited

108 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 19, 2015 5:37:13pm

re: #105 Justanotherhuman

Citing television footage, the Chronicle says police officers have made arrests after the students, some carrying banners and a Palestinian flag, made their stand. Protesters reportedly said they hoped to shut traffic down for 28 minutes.

Hmmm…

109 dog philosopher  Jan 19, 2015 5:39:41pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

(The code makes an Ajax call to the server, to access the database and pull the tweets out of the Media Library.)

my new version of the fabled kitchen cleansing agent allows the 1950s synchronous housewife to now scrub using an asynchronous callback mechanism

110 A Cranky One  Jan 19, 2015 5:41:14pm

My dad was a military chaplain. During his time in Vietnam, he risked his life on multiple occasions helping those trapped by the war. For instance, he helped put together a volunteer mission to rescue a community of lepers caught in the middle of a battle (and was later awarded a Bronze Star for bravery). He risked his life for strangers on multiple occasions.

When he returned to the states, he was greeted at the airport by war protesters who called him names such as baby killer and murderer (he was in uniform). This caused him a great deal of pain; this was a man who helped a number of pilots gain conscientious objector status when they couldn’t kill on command anymore.

Although I was totally opposed to the recent wars, I was glad for the troops that people seemed to make a distinction between the actions of the politicians and the actions of the soldiers. No soldier deserves to be blamed for the decisions of politicians. We can support the troops while detesting the political leadership and their policies.

But a soldier who justifies killing by calling people savages and feels empowered to kill anyone he considers a “bad buy” deserves no thanks or respect of any kind. This is a man who bragged of killing looters after Katrina and justified it because they were “bad guys” (although his claims, like others, aren’t backed by evidence). In my book he’s simply a mass murderer and it’s unfortunate that American Sniper may cause folks to treat him as a hero.

111 Timothy Watson  Jan 19, 2015 5:44:00pm

re: #66 plansbandc

Republican friend just saw “American Sniper” and talked about how the audience was silent after the film was over. “Out of respect”.

Uh, maybe some. I’m guessing (hoping) there were some who were silent in horror over the glorification of murder in the guise of patriotism.

Hoping.

Anyone find it funny that conservatives are OUTRAGED!!1! about the film “Selma” taking some historical liberties but have no problem about a film, “American Sniper”, which is based off of a book whose author’s estate (and main character) was found liable for slander and unjust enrichment?

112 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 5:48:21pm

Report: Sources say there was a bomb threat on a Delta flight at New York’s John F. Kennedy airport; passengers being deplaned, plane being searched - @NBCNews
end of alert

113 A Cranky One  Jan 19, 2015 5:51:18pm

re: #112 Justanotherhuman

Report: Sources say there was a bomb threat on a Delta flight at New York’s John F. Kennedy airport; passengers being deplaned, plane being searched - @NBCNews
end of alert

Tattoo: deplane, deplane!

(phrase from the TV show Fantasy Island for you youngsters)

114 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 5:53:55pm

The True Story Behind American Sniper [Well, some of it]

time.com

115 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 19, 2015 5:55:33pm

Um yeah, the hero snipers who defeated the Nazis were Soviets. You know, Commies.

116 jaunte  Jan 19, 2015 5:58:31pm

re: #115 The Vicious Babushka

Top ten: nine Russians, one Finn.
militaryeducation.org

117 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 19, 2015 6:00:39pm

Well I see that upChuck has really managed to step into it now. The RWNJs are alternately praising MLK (since he was a Republican you know///) or condemning him as a communist or a commie patsy at best.

I’ve spent the day counting things, have decided that I’d make a horrible vampire. :)

How fare the lizards this evening?

RBS

118 FemNaziBitch  Jan 19, 2015 6:01:21pm

Just a fly by—

Because this short video features MLKJr. Really, listen.
WHY SCIENCE FICTION MATTERS

119 Eventual Carrion  Jan 19, 2015 6:02:00pm

re: #116 jaunte

Top ten: nine Russians, one Finn.
militaryeducation.org

And the Finn did it open sight.

120 Teukka  Jan 19, 2015 6:02:12pm

re: #116 jaunte

Top ten: nine Russians, one Finn.
militaryeducation.org

Ah yes. White Death

121 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 6:05:18pm

Reality TV star hit by train was going for action shot, friends say

latimes.com

The ultimate tragic “mistake”: underestimating danger and overestimating your abilities.

122 Justanotherhuman  Jan 19, 2015 6:09:49pm

Brown University: Two Fraternities ‘Facilitated’ Sexual Misconduct

nbcnews.com

“Brown University officials on Monday announced that two fraternities on the Ivy League campus have been sanctioned for hosting unregistered parties last fall, including one where two students reported drinking punch laced with a date-rape drug. School leaders announced the discipline against Phi Kappa Psi and Sigma Chi in a statement to the media and a letter to members of the university community.

“Brown officials said both fraternities created environments that “facilitated” sexual misconduct. No members of the fraternities are accused by the school of sexual misconduct, and none of them face criminal charges. Phi Kappa Psi will lose university recognition for four years, including the loss of housing on campus, effective immediately.

“School officials said the fraternity hosted a party in October and two students reported drinking a beverage containing a date-rape drug. Both students reported rapid intoxication followed by memory loss, and one of them reported being sexually assaulted. Brown officials said the assault was non-consensual contact that did not happen at the fraternity and did not involve a fraternity member, but was the result of the student’s incapacitation. One of the students tested positive for gamma hydroxybutyrate, a date-rape drug also known as GHB, Brown officials have said.” More

123 Dark_Falcon  Jan 19, 2015 6:16:16pm

re: #115 The Vicious Babushka

Um yeah, the hero snipers who defeated the Nazis were Soviets. You know, Commies.

[Embedded content]

The problem is that most people never learn the history of the Eastern Front in WWII. It’s not usually gone over in high school, so you have to want to learn about it and too few do.

124 #FergusonFireside  Jan 19, 2015 6:18:58pm

re: #70 Decatur Deb

An MLK Day exercise: Check your Craigslist under the “events” page for a Klan recruiting effort. Our local CL is carrying one from N. Florida. It would be interesting to see if this is a one-off or an organized exploit.

I cannot wade into Craigslist, just too many things.

I did find a group called Hebrews and Shebrews.

Tell me that’s not something obscene?

125 A Cranky One  Jan 19, 2015 6:21:46pm

re: #121 Justanotherhuman

Reality TV star hit by train was going for action shot, friends say

latimes.com

The ultimate tragic “mistake”: underestimating danger and overestimating your abilities.

The saddest part is how this will impact the conductor, who will have to live with the memory the rest of his/her life.

126 #FergusonFireside  Jan 19, 2015 6:25:29pm

re: #124 #FergusonFireside

I cannot wade into Craigslist, just too many things.

I did find a group called Hebrews and Shebrews.

Tell me that’s not something obscene?

It’s not. I had to go back to check.

127 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 19, 2015 6:38:03pm

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that most people never learn the history of the Eastern Front in WWII. It’s not usually gone over in high school, so you have to want to learn about it and too few do.

And combine that with an often anti-soviet bias in much of the Western materials created prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union. It’s only recently that historically more accurate and balanced works (Glanz, Beevor etc) have come out.


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