1 teleskiguy  Jan 21, 2015 8:10:58pm

[re-posted from downstairs]

lawhawk has said before in these comments that UpChuck operates with only two tools at his dispersal: doxxing and smearing. That’s all he does. He can spout off his intrepid journamalism and upending the establishment, the fact of the matter is he’s a malevolent creep, a disgusting human being, a real horror show.

One day, he’ll doxx or smear the wrong person and he’ll get in real trouble. That’s the only way he might stop being such a pissant online.

2 Kid A  Jan 21, 2015 8:15:54pm

Asshole. That is all.

3 goddamnedfrank  Jan 21, 2015 8:17:20pm

Fuckin’ cockneck.

4 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 8:20:17pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

If nothing else, he’s displaying the attitude that a lot of people probably have and just don’t clearly express.

Disgustingly.

5 goddamnedfrank  Jan 21, 2015 8:20:50pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

[re-posted from downstairs]

lawhawk has said before in these comments that UpChuck operates with only two tools at his dispersal: doxxing and smearing. That’s all he does. He can spout off his intrepid journamalism and upending the establishment, the fact of the matter is he’s a malevolent creep, a disgusting human being, a real horror show.

One day, he’ll doxx or smear the wrong person and he’ll get in real trouble. That’s the only way he might stop being such a pissant online.

Also, wholesale invention, passing off total fiction as fact.

Yes, I’m still pissed off about the pixel shit. You go to grad school, get an M.S. then and have some retard get away with spreading blatant objective lies to the public about your field of expertise, see if it doesn’t rile you a bit.

6 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2015 8:23:09pm

I’m all UpChucked for the evening.
I think The Bear sums up CCJ’s life:

laterz…

7 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 21, 2015 8:25:25pm

Fe-fe, fi-fi, fo-fo, fum
I smell shit in the auditorium

Chuck C Johnson, Chuck C. Johnson
He’s a clown, son, that Chuck C. Johnson
He’s gonna get caught
Just you wait and see
(Why’s everybody always pickin’ on me?)

— With apologies to The Drifters

8 goddamnedfrank  Jan 21, 2015 8:25:26pm

re: #4 klystron

If nothing else, he’s displaying the attitude that a lot of people probably have and just don’t clearly express.

Disgustingly.

They hate women. They hate gays. They hate brown people. They hate expertise when it gets in the way. All they know is that the traditional (white, christian, male dominated) culture changing, and it scares the everlovin’ fuck out of them.

9 jaunte  Jan 21, 2015 8:25:47pm
10 D_Red  Jan 21, 2015 8:26:28pm

Rape kit? But the alleles were different sizes!

11 Timothy Watson  Jan 21, 2015 8:35:16pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

Fuckin’ cockneck.

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On CSI/NCIS/Criminal Minds/Law & Order they get the DNA tests back in an hour!!1!

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12 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 21, 2015 8:36:18pm

re: #11 Timothy Watson

On CSI/NCIS/Criminal Minds/Law & Order they get the DNA tests back in an hour!!1!

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And the DNA results always match someone in the system!

13 CuriousLurker  Jan 21, 2015 8:37:36pm

re: #8 goddamnedfrank

They hate women. They hate gays. They hate brown people. They hate expertise when it gets in the way. All they know is that the traditional (white, christian, male dominated) culture changing, and it scares the everlovin’ fuck out of them.

I’m pretty much convinced that it’s guilty conscience, fear that when minorities become the majority and seize the reins of power they’ll seek retribution by treating white, christian males the same way white, christian males treated them. An eye for an eye—it’s terrifying if you see things that way.

14 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 21, 2015 8:40:10pm

re: #11 Timothy Watson

On CSI/NCIS/Criminal Minds/Law & Order they get the DNA tests back in an hour!!1!

////

Zoom in…. Enhance…. Zoom …. Enhance….. There, you can see in the security film footage from the gas station across the street, reflected in the the hubcap of that vehicle, the suspect was wearing a 1993 PS 54 class ring with a football emblem…. Run it though the database.

Science, it really doesn’t make good TV a lot of the time. (Unless you’re a sciencey person)

15 darthstar  Jan 21, 2015 8:43:34pm
16 teleskiguy  Jan 21, 2015 8:44:36pm
17 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jan 21, 2015 8:46:03pm

I have a friend at Appalachian State U., and they’ve had 5 suicides in as many months. Everyone is scrambling to figure out how this happened. They are horrified and shellshocked. Seriously fuck this tool.

18 A Cranky One  Jan 21, 2015 8:46:42pm

So UpChuck’s site Gnotnews is up for sale for $250? And his personal sites are about to expire?

And now he’s offering a $200 reward. I think we now know the size of his liquid capital…

19 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 21, 2015 8:47:23pm

re: #8 goddamnedfrank

They hate women. They hate gays. They hate brown people. They hate expertise when it gets in the way. All they know is that the traditional (white, christian, male dominated) culture changing, and it scares the everlovin’ fuck out of them.

They fear being treated like they treated others.

20 darthstar  Jan 21, 2015 8:48:37pm

Twitter, as it was meant to be used.

21 darthstar  Jan 21, 2015 8:49:28pm

re: #18 A Cranky One

So UpChuck’s site Gnotnews is up for sale for $250? And his personal sites are about to expire?

And now he’s offering a $200 reward. I think we now know the size of his liquid capital…

Hang on…I can own Gotnews for $250? Oh dear…hello liberal news blog.

22 WhatEVs  Jan 21, 2015 8:51:35pm

re: #21 darthstar

Hang on…I can own Gotnews for $250? Oh dear…hello liberal news blog.

I’m willing to chip in.

23 plansbandc  Jan 21, 2015 8:52:34pm

What happened to this person to make him such a despicable piece of shit?

24 darthstar  Jan 21, 2015 8:53:31pm

re: #22 WhatEVs

I’m willing to chip in.

And the first link on the home page will be, “Name That Poop: Left on the Floor by Chuck or not?”

25 darthstar  Jan 21, 2015 8:54:01pm

re: #23 plansbandc

What happened to this person to make him such a despicable piece of shit?

Well, the best parts of him are on the floor.

26 WhatEVs  Jan 21, 2015 8:55:31pm

re: #25 darthstar

Well, the best parts of him are on the floor.

Assumption. Not in evidence. Ever.

27 goddamnedfrank  Jan 21, 2015 8:57:03pm

WTF is wrong with people?

28 makeitstop  Jan 21, 2015 8:58:18pm

One of these days, Chuck is going to catch a good beating. You can’t just fuck with people’s lives like he does and not expect to have it catch up with you one day.

29 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 8:58:31pm
30 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 21, 2015 9:01:49pm

re: #28 makeitstop

One of these days, Chuck is going to catch a good beating. You can’t just fuck with people’s lives like he does and not expect to have it catch up with you one day.

Holly Fisher’s husband was none too pleased with him. If they lived near each other, CCJ would have been in big trouble. But I reckon he would only pick on someone who lives hundreds of miles away.

31 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jan 21, 2015 9:02:44pm

re: #28 makeitstop

One of these days, Chuck is going to catch a good beating. You can’t just fuck with people’s lives like he does and not expect to have it catch up with you one day.

from your lips …

32 darthstar  Jan 21, 2015 9:03:48pm
33 CuriousLurker  Jan 21, 2015 9:06:05pm

re: #19 RealityBasedSteve

About an hour ago I was going through my Google alerts and saw a wingnut article about “Muslim privilege”. I was like, “LOL wut?”

Yep, apparently POTUS is using his crypto-Muslim powers to protect & promote Islam at the expense of the real victims (white, christian men, naturally). They seem to have convinced themselves that these things are really & truly happening and they’re now a persecuted minority.

I kid you not: donotlink.com

Enough with the loonies for one day. O_o

G’nite, lizards.

34 A Cranky One  Jan 21, 2015 9:06:39pm

OT, but I’ve got a couple of photos of a quilt my spouse did for my daughter. I’ll post a few more as time permits, since folks seemed interested.

Did find out the previously posted quilt was from a pattern. I’ll try to find pics of a couple of her designs.

Far view

Closer…
Closer yet.
35 retired cynic  Jan 21, 2015 9:09:00pm

re: #34 A Cranky One

Gorgeous!

36 WhatEVs  Jan 21, 2015 9:10:13pm

re: #34 A Cranky One

Stunning! The one you posted last night made me drool. It was that gorgeous.

Tell her I have major talent envy.

37 A Cranky One  Jan 21, 2015 9:10:16pm

re: #35 retired cynic

I’ll pass that along. Thanks!

38 darthstar  Jan 21, 2015 9:10:17pm
39 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 21, 2015 9:11:14pm

re: #34 A Cranky One

Beautiful work. Compelling choices of color and pattern. Love it!

40 goddamnedfrank  Jan 21, 2015 9:11:57pm

Yep, a huge dick. Just gonna mute in Tweetdeck.

41 jaunte  Jan 21, 2015 9:12:44pm

re: #38 darthstar

“They took reasonable steps, and you can lawfully keep a gun in a vehicle in the glove box. It was secured in the glove box itself,” said Gualtieri.
wtsp.com

Strange definition of ‘secured.’

42 WhatEVs  Jan 21, 2015 9:13:58pm

re: #38 darthstar

That’s tragic.

When guns are used, nothing ever comes of it. Fear of the NRA.

But have a miscarriage and it’s time to investigate fetuscide.

The hold guns have over us is insane. Absolutely insane.

43 A Cranky One  Jan 21, 2015 9:14:33pm

re: #36 WhatEVs

Stunning! The one you posted last night made me drool. It was that gorgeous.

Tell her I have major talent envy.

I’ll pass that along gladly along with the compliments from other folks!

44 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 21, 2015 9:15:26pm

re: #33 CuriousLurker

About an hour ago I was going through my Google alerts and saw a wingnut article about “Muslim privilege”. I was like, “LOL wut?”

Yep, apparently POTUS is using his crypto-Muslim powers to protect & promote Islam at the expense of the real victims (white, christian men, naturally). They seem to have convinced themselves that these things are really & truly happening and they’re now a persecuted minority.

I kid you not: donotlink.com

Enough with the loonies for one day. O_o

G’nite, lizards.

Not quite the exact same thing, but closely relates…. Sandy Rios (who’s a wacko by any measure, and also president of the Culture Campaign PAC, Fox New Contributor and Townhall contributor) says that “Obama Used Islamic Subliminal Messages In The State Of The Union”…. Her ‘proof’, and I’m not making this up, is that he used the word “pillar” to describe the foundations of American Leadership. Know who else uses the term pillars… Muslims. There’s your proof. Don’t try to argue with it… it will just make your head hurt and one eye will slowly rotate in a counter-clockwise direction independent of the other one.

RBS

45 Viscous Obama  Jan 21, 2015 9:15:51pm

re: #29 klystron

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Halp, it’s SunTanVision™!

46 jaunte  Jan 21, 2015 9:16:01pm

“The gun was secured in the drawer.”
“The gun was secured in the refrigerator.”
“The gun was secured under the bed.”
“The gun was secured in his underpants.”

47 WhatEVs  Jan 21, 2015 9:17:56pm

re: #46 jaunte

If anyone involved was accidentally shot it wasn’t “secured” anything. It was unsecured, accessible, available. It was the anti-secured.

48 A Cranky One  Jan 21, 2015 9:18:55pm

re: #29 klystron

I really wondered how much the #YesWeTan tweet was trolling the base RWNJs and how much was trolling the Speaker…

49 jaunte  Jan 21, 2015 9:21:31pm

re: #47 WhatEVs

“The family was getting ready to leave home in the father’s car, when Kaleb [2 years old] got into the vehicle, where the gun was in the glove box. Kaleb found the weapon and shot himself in the chest.”

50 teleskiguy  Jan 21, 2015 9:24:12pm

Current retweet count:

UpChuck’s $200 bounty: 10

Charles’s screenshot of the tweet: 285

IRRELLLEVANNTTT!!!!
51 WhatEVs  Jan 21, 2015 9:24:31pm

re: #49 jaunte

“The family was getting ready to leave home in the father’s car, when Kaleb [2 years old] got into the vehicle, where the gun was in the glove box. Kaleb found the weapon and shot himself in the chest.”

So a 2 year old wasn’t looked in a car seat, had access to an unlocked glove box, and boom! (literally).

Joyousness.

52 teleskiguy  Jan 21, 2015 9:26:13pm

Aw SNAP! Retweeted by @pattonoswalt.

53 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 21, 2015 9:27:25pm

re: #44 RealityBasedSteve

So, a pillar of the community is really a Muslim? Who knew?

54 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 21, 2015 9:31:54pm

re: #53 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

So, a pillar of the community is really a Muslim? Who knew?

I also appear to have some apple - cinnamon scented Muslims in my bedroom… all this time I thought they were just candles.

RBS

55 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 21, 2015 9:36:36pm

Well gang, I’m off to bed. All I can say is that it is my most devout wish that CCJ reaps exactly what he has sown.

I will insert a large garden gnome into…
56 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 21, 2015 9:39:27pm

re: #49 jaunte

“The family was getting ready to leave home in the father’s car, when Kaleb [2 years old] got into the vehicle, where the gun was in the glove box. Kaleb found the weapon and shot himself in the chest.”

According to the deputies on scene the weapon was a .380 caliber. There is only one revolver made in that caliber, the rest of the weapons using it are semi-automatic pistols. That suggests to me that the weapon was not only loaded, it was cocked with a round under the hammer. A weapon in that state, left adrift in the glove box, would have discharged sooner or later. It’s tragic that a child had to die because his parents were so cavalier with a deadly weapon.

57 CleverToad  Jan 21, 2015 9:44:12pm

re: #34 A Cranky One

Oooh! The pieced design is very cool and that cloud/flower quilting pattern is incredibly intricate. Admires greatly.

Are you folks anywhere near Colorado? Sometime in July 2015 should be the biennial Capitol Quilt Show — quilts on display on three floors of the State Capitol building. It’s impressive, even if you don’t quilt.

58 Chez Ko Pe  Jan 21, 2015 9:50:07pm
Happy hunting.

There are lifelong Misandry-is-Real-shrieking douchebros reading that, removing their trilbys, and backing slowly away.

59 A Cranky One  Jan 21, 2015 9:50:43pm

re: #57 CleverToad

Oooh! The pieced design is very cool and that cloud/flower quilting pattern is incredibly intricate. Admires greatly.

Are you folks anywhere near Colorado? Sometime in July 2015 should be the biennial Capitol Quilt Show — quilts on display on three floors of the State Capitol building. It’s impressive, even if you don’t quilt.

First, thanks. I’ll let her know!

Second, now I’m doomed. She’s been bugging me to take some vacation (we are near Chicago) and my sister lives near Denver. Ruh-roh. ;)

60 De Kolta Chair  Jan 21, 2015 9:53:22pm

NY Times reporting Sheldon Silver, New York Assembly Speaker, Faces Arrest on Corruption Charges

Federal authorities are expected to arrest Sheldon Silver, the powerful speaker of the New York State Assembly, on corruption charges on Thursday, people with knowledge of the matter said. The case is likely to throw Albany into disarray at the beginning of a new session.

61 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jan 21, 2015 9:54:09pm

re: #55 RealityBasedSteve

Well gang, I’m off to bed. All I can say is that it is my most devout wish that CCJ reaps exactly what he has sown.

Image: I will insert a large garden gnome into…

Seconded, and good night as well.

62 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 9:54:32pm

re: #59 A Cranky One

First, thanks. I’ll let her know!

Second, now I’m doomed. She’s been bugging me to take some vacation (we are near Chicago) and my sister lives near Denver. Ruh-roh. ;)

There are worse places to vacation than Colorado.

Especially if you like beer at all.

63 teleskiguy  Jan 21, 2015 9:55:51pm

re: #62 klystron

There are worse places to vacation than Colorado.

Especially if you like beer at all.

Or cannabis!

Yeah man!
64 Kragar  Jan 21, 2015 9:56:39pm
65 A Cranky One  Jan 21, 2015 10:00:19pm

re: #62 klystron

There are worse places to vacation than Colorado.

Especially if you like beer at all.

Just beer? All seriousness aside, my sister and her husband are retired and have a very nice place with lots of room. Went to visit them a couple of years ago and had a great time, doing some driving and hiking in the mountains. Only issue was that my wife really wanted to try the train for the return trip. Let’s just say that flat fields and cows get boring as scenery after the first 16 hours or so…;)

66 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 10:01:53pm

re: #65 A Cranky One

Just beer? All seriousness aside, my sister and her husband are retired and have a very nice place with lots of room. Went to visit them a couple of years ago and had a great time, doing some driving and hiking in the mountains. Only issue was that my wife really wanted to try the train for the return trip. Let’s just say that flat fields and cows get boring as scenery after the first 16 hours or so…;)

Ah, see, that was your mistake. If you do the train from Denver, you have to do it west.

In fact, I highly recommend it that way.

The views are definitely worth it.
67 A Cranky One  Jan 21, 2015 10:08:14pm

re: #66 klystron

Ah, see, that was your mistake. If you do the train from Denver, you have to do it west.

In fact, I highly recommend it that way.

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I always did have a terrible sense of direction!

It might be fun to head to Denver, visit and then take a trip west and sight-see before returning. Darn it, you folks are a bad influence! My corporate masters want the nose to the grindstone.///

68 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 10:10:52pm

re: #67 A Cranky One

I always did have a terrible sense of direction!

It might be fun to head to Denver, visit and then take a trip west and sight-see before returning. Darn it, you folks are a bad influence! My corporate masters want the nose to the grindstone.///

I am a horrible influence when it comes to travel.

I blame mr. klys. We’ve done a reasonable amount of driving in CO and WY, and definitely more at points further west (based in CA). We have a little teardrop trailer, so we like road trips, although this year it might be a short one in favor of Iceland. We’re still sorting out details. (He is off to the UK on business next week, sigh. I wanted to do the UK but he didn’t want to use vacation. He owes me good gin.)

Yellowstone! If you haven’t done Yellowstone yet that is mandatory.

GEYSERS.
69 teleskiguy  Jan 21, 2015 10:11:52pm

re: #66 klystron

De Beque Canyon, just west of Grand Junction.

There’s 20 more hours of train ride to California from this spot.

70 Amory Blaine  Jan 21, 2015 10:13:10pm

re: #29 klystron

littlegreenfootballs.com

71 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 10:14:28pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

De Beque Canyon, just west of Grand Junction.

There’s 20 more hours of train ride to California from this spot.

Yep. And if you are on the train on Thanksgiving, you hit it just as the sun is setting. And then you can have Thanksgiving dinner on the train, as is right and proper, and there’s nobody else to bother you in the observation car, and it’s perfect.

Two years ago, that’s what we did. Sigh.

72 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 10:15:40pm

Sigh, Oakland.

73 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 10:17:59pm

TWENTY SEVEN MORE SECONDS SAN JOSE YOU CAN DO THIS.

74 teleskiguy  Jan 21, 2015 10:19:08pm

re: #71 klystron

I knew it! I’ve acquired an ability to look at pictures of places in Colorado and know where the picture was taken. A lifetime of residency and recreation in the state will do that to a guy.

I did that same train ride when I was 21. I rode the train from Glenwood Springs, CO to the Bay Area. My sister picked me up and I spent the next week in the Bay Area. My sister even took me to Napa Valley. It was my 21st birthday present from my sister.

I flew back, BTW.

75 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 10:21:12pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

I knew it! I’ve acquired an ability to look at pictures of places in Colorado and know where the picture was taken. A lifetime of residency and recreation in the state will do that to a guy.

I did that same train ride when I was 21. I rode the train from Glenwood Springs, CO to the Bay Area. My sister picked me up and I spent the next week in the Bay Area. My sister even took me to Napa Valley. It was my 21st birthday present from my sister.

I flew back, BTW.

We flew out for it and took the train to Glenwood Springs for a few days before continuing on to CA. At some point we’d like to do the Coast Starlight down to LA, then LA to Chicago, then Chicago to Seattle, and then Seattle back here.

You have to have the right mindset for train travel though, which involves not necessarily moving fast all the time and no firm schedule. AND YAY SAN JOSE WINS OVER THE KINGS BWAHAHAHAHA. I mean. Ahem. We got lucky when we went down to Paso Robles in early November and our train down was on time, but our train back ended up getting in 6 hours late.

76 Chez Ko Pe  Jan 21, 2015 10:22:25pm

re: #72 klystron

It’s British, but today’s Bobbins applies all too well.

77 Amory Blaine  Jan 21, 2015 10:25:44pm

The Koch brothers are bored in deep here in Wisconsin.

Americans for Prosperity working with Donovan to derail streetcar plan.

Americans for Prosperity, a political arm of the billionaire Koch brothers, has been working with Ald. Bob Donovan to force Milwaukee to hold a binding referendum on the proposed downtown streetcar project, the organization’s state director said Wednesday.

“We have field staff in Milwaukee,” David Fladeboe said.

The Milwaukee staff is being paid, Fladeboe said, but “we’re not funding anything.”

Americans for Prosperity’s involvement, first reported by the website Urban Milwaukee, came as the Milwaukee Common Council on Wednesday voted 10-5 to back the $124 million streetcar project — but to delay final approval until Feb. 10.

The delay is to give United for Milwaukee, an organization led by Donovan and Ald. Joe Davis, a chance to collect the 31,000 signatures needed under the state’s direct legislation statute to compel a binding referendum on the project.

Another flunkie

New state treasurer causes stir over global warming, New York Times

Wisconsin’s new state treasurer is making waves on an obscure state board — trying to get it to cancel its subscription to The New York Times, change its letterhead so the top administrator doesn’t appear on it anymore and make sure any references to global warming are dropped from its website.

State Treasurer Matt Adamczyk in recent months has raised issues large and small at the Board of Commissioners of Public Land, which operates a trust that provides funding for school libraries and makes loans to municipalities and school districts.

Since he was elected treasurer in November, he has sent dozens of emails and made numerous calls to get details about the board’s operations.

The situation has resulted in the board’s executive secretary, Tia Nelson, telling staff to document all contacts they’ve had with Adamczyk, which includes typing up rough transcripts of their conversations with him in some cases.

78 teleskiguy  Jan 21, 2015 10:28:16pm

re: #75 klystron

You have to have the right mindset for train travel though, which involves not necessarily moving fast all the time and no firm schedule.

The reason that my sister loves me and that I’ll never forget that train ride. I remember smoking a joint with some businessman from Aspen at the back of the train in the middle of the night somewhere in Utah. I remember the magnificent desolation of the scenery in Nevada.

re: #75 klystron

AND YAY SAN JOSE WINS OVER THE KINGS BWAHAHAHAHA.

My Avs beat the Bruins in a shootout tonight, so the feeling is mutual. YAY LOCAL SPORTS TEAM!

79 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 10:29:20pm

re: #78 teleskiguy

My Avs beat the Bruins in a shootout tonight, so the feeling is mutual. YAY LOCAL SPORTS TEAM!

This is why I can’t rag too much on football, because I have my own vice when it comes to hockey.

Which is in general a more civilized sport, because at least we’re honest about the fights.

80 A Cranky One  Jan 21, 2015 10:31:31pm

re: #68 klystron

I am a horrible influence when it comes to travel.
…
Yellowstone! If you haven’t done Yellowstone yet that is mandatory.

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I grew up in a military family and was fortunate to travel with them through Europe and around the country. But haven’t been to Yellowstone yet, and I know the spouse would love going back since she hasn’t been in a long while.

I was going to show her the thread to see the quilt comments but now I’m afraid. Because if she reads this far I know what the topic of future conversations is going to be. Doomed, doomed I say!

Best sign off for the night. Pleasant dreams all.

81 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 10:32:40pm

re: #80 A Cranky One

Go to Yellowstone, you won’t regret it. And I have book recommendations for when you do, if you like geysers at all.

82 teleskiguy  Jan 21, 2015 10:32:52pm

re: #79 klystron

Hockey is definitely a more honest sport than football. And they play 82 matches as opposed to football’s 16 matches per season.

I really despise American Football these days. What a crock!

83 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 21, 2015 10:32:54pm

re: #75 klystron

Amtrak seldom runs on time. Even short runs, like NY to Toronto, can be delayed by freight (which has ROW) or trouble on the ONLY line available for traffic in some places. It’s not the kind of travel for people with a strict schedule.

I did the Denver east run once, to get to Omaha. Most of it was at night. We met some interesting people in the club car to talk to and while away the hours.

84 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 21, 2015 10:34:38pm

Living fossil scares bejesus out of Aussie fishermen

npr.org

85 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 10:35:08pm

re: #83 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Amtrak seldom runs on time. Even short runs, like NY to Toronto, can be delayed by freight (which has ROW) or trouble on the ONLY line available for traffic in some places. It’s not the kind of travel for people with a strict schedule.

I did the Denver east run once, to get to Omaha. Most of it was at night. We met some interesting people in the club car to talk to and while away the hours.

It’s on time in the northeast corridor, barring a few exceptions - which was most of my exposure in college. But they aren’t sharing the line with freight there.

I still enjoy train travel a lot. Mr. klys and I have dreams of doing from London to Tokyo via train and ferry at one point in retirement.

86 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 21, 2015 10:37:56pm

re: #85 klystron

It’s on time in the northeast corridor, barring a few exceptions - which was most of my exposure in college. But they aren’t sharing the line with freight there.

I still enjoy train travel a lot. Mr. klys and I have dreams of doing from London to Tokyo via train and ferry at one point in retirement.

Check out The Man in Seat 61 seat61.com He knows stuff.

87 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 21, 2015 10:38:13pm

re: #82 teleskiguy

I’ve shifted my interest to English Premier League football instead of the NFL for many similar reasons. I haven’t missed it.

88 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 10:39:14pm

re: #86 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Check out The Man in Seat 61 seat61.com He knows stuff.

There may have been several hours wasted on that website in Key West this summer. >.>

89 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 21, 2015 10:41:46pm

re: #83 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Amtrak seldom runs on time. Even short runs, like NY to Toronto, can be delayed by freight (which has ROW) or trouble on the ONLY line available for traffic in some places. It’s not the kind of travel for people with a strict schedule.

I did the Denver east run once, to get to Omaha. Most of it was at night. We met some interesting people in the club car to talk to and while away the hours.

Someday I want to start in Chicago and do the loop down to New Orleans to LA to Seattle and back to Chicago with lots of time (& $$$) to get off often and take lots of photographs.

90 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 21, 2015 10:43:19pm

re: #89 William Barnett-Lewis

Someday I want to start in Chicago and do the loop down to New Orleans to LA to Seattle and back to Chicago with lots of time (& $$$) to get off often and take lots of photographs.

Don’t they have a USARail pass that will let you do that?

91 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 21, 2015 10:44:01pm

re: #88 klystron

There may have been several hours wasted on that website in Key West this summer. >.>

Nonsense! it was research. ;-)

92 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 10:44:27pm

re: #90 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Don’t they have a USARail pass that will let you do that?

Not like in other countries. From our friend in seat 61:

Segments: Sadly, since 2008 Amtrak’s USA railpasses no longer give unlimited travel. They only cover a maximum of 8, 12 or 18 ‘segments’ depending on your pass duration. This is the maximum number of individual train rides you can take during your 15, 30 or 45 day pass duration. A segment is one train ride on one train, so a 2-day trip counts as one segment, and so does a 30-minute one! A journey involving a change of train counts as two segments.

93 goddamnedfrank  Jan 21, 2015 10:56:36pm
94 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 21, 2015 10:56:42pm

re: #90 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Don’t they have a USARail pass that will let you do that?

If I were 20 years younger that would be very tempting. ,

95 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 21, 2015 10:58:46pm

re: #92 klystron

Not like in other countries. From our friend in seat 61:

That’s too bad. It was an option about, um, 35 years ago, IIRC.

You’re right about the NE corridor. I’ve never had serious delays on it, despite less than ideal trackage in northern NJ. Back when I was in college, before I got a car, I went home and back via Conrail or Amtrak and the LIRR. I used to be able to recite the NJ stations in order by memory.

“Station Rahway, Rahway, next stop!”

96 teleskiguy  Jan 21, 2015 10:59:12pm

UpChuck is a pissant ginger mongoloid.

97 klystron  Jan 21, 2015 11:03:37pm

re: #95 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I did it between Baltimore and northern NJ to get home for breaks in college. Same amount of time on the road, except for Thanksgiving where it was a hell of a lot faster. We also do it to cover part of the trip between my folks and his over Christmas - a nice break from the relatives.

98 teleskiguy  Jan 21, 2015 11:43:21pm

And with that I bid the Lizards good evening.

99 goddamnedfrank  Jan 22, 2015 12:10:49am

The whole issue in a nutshell.

100 goddamnedfrank  Jan 22, 2015 12:18:01am

Total asshole.

101 Viscous Obama  Jan 22, 2015 12:53:18am

If Twitter hasn’t shut down a litany of ISIS linked accounts, what chance is there that they’ll care about some right wing nobody?

102 Targetpractice  Jan 22, 2015 1:07:16am

re: #99 goddamnedfrank

The whole issue in a nutshell.

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They always care about the “real victims”…until those victims actually speak up, then they’re always “lying.”

103 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 1:50:31am

The real victims are white male college students who cannot engage in casual forced sexual encounters without being compelled to deal with unsavory consequences.

/

104 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 2:16:14am

And I was being sarcastic until I ran across this article

The College Rape OvercorrectionLink

Colleges, encouraged by federal officials, are instituting solutions to sexual violence against women that abrogate the civil rights of men.

I have no problem with people engaging in casual sex, but it is foolish on anyone’s part to think that it can be free of consequences, sometimes unpleasant. And responsible people consider these consequences before hooking up.

105 freetoken  Jan 22, 2015 3:20:14am

MP3 Audio

106 Targetpractice  Jan 22, 2015 3:20:45am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And I was being sarcastic until I ran across this article

The College Rape OvercorrectionLink

Colleges, encouraged by federal officials, are instituting solutions to sexual violence against women that abrogate the civil rights of men.

I have no problem with people engaging in casual sex, but it is foolish on anyone’s part to think that it can be free of consequences, sometimes unpleasant. And responsible people consider these consequences before hooking up.

You ever notice that all these sob stories from male college students seem to follow the same script? Guy just minding his own business when this hot and horny female student shows up, “one thing leads to another,” she’s practically begging him for sex, they do the deed, and then the next day she’s “crying rape” either because she’s afraid of being in trouble or because her seduction ploy didn’t work? His buddies are always there to tell reporters about how she was hot to trot, her “friends” either say she’s lying or they think she’s lying, and of course the college is out to get them.

107 Bubblehead II  Jan 22, 2015 3:23:11am

Morning Lizards.

108 KiTA  Jan 22, 2015 3:27:55am

re: #107 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards.

Mornin’. That Signal generator works great, and Julie wants one now. I put a 9V battery in and it’s super portable.

109 Bubblehead II  Jan 22, 2015 3:33:57am

re: #108 KiTA

Mornin’. That Signal generator works great, and Julie wants one now. I put a 9V battery in and it’s super portable.

Mine show up yet?

110 KiTA  Jan 22, 2015 3:43:27am

re: #109 Bubblehead II

Mine show up yet?

If it did, Tim and Lisa didn’t know about it.

Apparently MyVoice came in. Expect a 1 on 1, apparently we’re all getting them.

111 Bubblehead II  Jan 22, 2015 3:51:19am

re: #110 KiTA

If it did, Tim and Lisa didn’t know about it.

Well hopefully it will be there when I get in tomorrow.

Apparently MyVoice came in. Expect a 1 on 1, apparently we’re all getting them.

Nothing new about that.

112 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 4:20:43am

re: #106 Targetpractice

There is this quaint and archaic tradition known as “courtship”, which was practiced well into the second half of the 20th century on some isolated rural college campuses.

I have nothing against consensual sex between adults, or even against casual hookups, but whatever happened to taking time to get to know someone before sleeping with them?

113 Bubblehead II  Jan 22, 2015 4:25:33am

re: #110 KiTA

If it did, Tim and Lisa didn’t know about it.

Apparently MyVoice came in. Expect a 1 on 1, apparently we’re all getting them.

Just checked the shipping update. Said it was delivered yesterday. If its not on my bench in the morning it is either stuck in admin or down in the warehouse.

114 Decatur Deb  Jan 22, 2015 4:28:32am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There is this quaint and archaic tradition known as “courtship”, which was practiced well into the second half of the 20th centuries on some isolated rural college campuses.

I have nothing against consensual sex between adults, or even against casual hookups, but whatever happened to taking time to get to know someone before sleeping with them?

Required degrees of social and ideological control sufficient to overcome YA physiology. Those controls have diminished. Also, Rock n’ Roll, too.

115 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 4:35:46am

re: #114 Decatur Deb

Required degrees of social and ideological control sufficient to overcome YA physiology. Those controls have diminished. Also, Rock n’ Roll, too.

Not all my young adult sexual liaisons were deep, meaningful or romantic, but they generally involved people I knew to some extent and had some interest in maintaining relations with.

116 Targetpractice  Jan 22, 2015 4:39:28am

Personally, I just marvel at how many college guys seem to always be the victim of aggressive women. In virtually every case I hear about these “victims,” they never initiate the liaison, they never have second thoughts about having sex, and they always get blindsided by rape allegations. Bonus points if they try to excuse their behavior by saying one or both sides had been drinking but were not drunk enough to impair their judgment.

117 Decatur Deb  Jan 22, 2015 4:40:41am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Not all my young adult sexual liaisons were deep, meaningful or romantic, but they generally involved people I knew to some extent and had some interest in maintaining relations with.

Once kissed a girl I didn’t love, once loved a girl I didn’t kiss.

118 CleverToad  Jan 22, 2015 4:41:52am

re: #97 klystron

Oh shoot, I had to go to bed and missed the train thread.

Trains are fun, if you have plenty of amusements and time. Have mostly done the California Zephyr between Denver and Omaha to the east, Glenwood Springs and once to Reno in the west. Would love to do the Pacific coast run one of these decades.

Yellowstone is a must-see, at least once on your bucket list.

Colorado has lots of craft beer, starting on craft whiskey, and lots and lots of pot stores. (Which I’ve never been in, actually, but I’m cheering on the industry.)

And mountains. Lovely mountains.

If you’ve been tempted sufficiently by the inducements offered by the various Lizardim, tell Mrs. Cranky to watch the website for the Colorado Quilt Council. The dates for the Capitol show haven’t been announced yet, just ‘July 2015’ so far, but I’m sure the planning is well underway.

(Ooh, I’m a Bad Influence! Giggles madly and sneaks off to work…)

119 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 4:41:55am

You can’t make this stuff up:

One Jew attacks another Jew for wearing a kippah in Boulder, CO bar.

120 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 4:42:18am

re: #117 Decatur Deb

Once kissed a girl I didn’t love, once loved a girl I didn’t kiss.

You very nicely sum up the fact that human interactions, especially sexual interactions, are much to complicated to discuss in the form of Tweets and bullet points.

121 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 4:46:11am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

You can’t make this stuff up:

One Jew attacks another Jew for wearing a kippah in Boulder, CO bar.

I hold every Jew in the world responsible for the actions of both these men.

/

122 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 4:46:50am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I hold every Jew in the world responsible for the actions of both these men.

/

Two Jews and a Muslim walk into a bar…

123 Decatur Deb  Jan 22, 2015 4:47:41am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

Two Jews and a Muslim walk into a bar…

…A Ba’hai raises the bar.

124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 4:49:30am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

Two Jews and a Muslim walk into a bar…

…mitzvah?

125 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 4:49:49am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

…mitzvah?

LOL

126 Targetpractice  Jan 22, 2015 4:51:13am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

Two Jews and a Muslim walk into a bar…

You’d think one of them would have seen it.

127 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 4:56:54am

re: #126 Targetpractice

You’d think one of them would have seen it.

perhaps it was a barfly

128 Decatur Deb  Jan 22, 2015 4:57:11am

Near dawn, 48 degrees in Baja Alabama. Off to walk the dog.

129 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 22, 2015 5:04:54am

re: #118 CleverToad

Grandma used to take the California Zephyr from Chicago to Iowa all the time. It wasn’t always on schedule due to rock slides out west though. I like that choo-choo.

130 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 5:09:20am

The last time I rode on a train, in 2004, was VIARail from Windsor to Toronto. It took over 6 hours and wasn’t all that scenic.

It takes less time than that to drive, and you have a car when you get there.

131 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 22, 2015 5:13:08am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Courtship today: “Nice boobs. DTF?”

132 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 5:17:59am

re: #131 GlutenFreeJesus

Courtship today: “Nice boobs. DTF?”

“Are you drunk yet?”

133 Decatur Deb  Jan 22, 2015 5:37:12am

re: #130 The Vicious Babushka

The last time I rode on a train, in 2004, was VIARail from Windsor to Toronto. It took over 6 hours and wasn’t all that scenic.

It takes less time than that to drive, and you have a car when you get there.

Wife and I looked into Canadian rail from Toronto to Vancouver, just for the ride. It looked great, very scenic, and completely accessible. It was pretty pricey, though, about the same as air to Venice.

134 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 5:41:03am

re: #133 Decatur Deb

Wife and I looked into Canadian rail from Toronto to Vancouver, just for the ride. It looked great, very scenic, and completely accessible. It was pretty pricey, though, about the same as air to Venice.

I took the California Zephyr from Flagstaff, Arizona to Chicago and back in 1981. The way out was awesome: sunrise across the Painted Desert, sunset in the Colorado Rockies, we slept through the Great Plains, woke up in time to cross the Mississippi…

The way back was just the opposite, all we got was miles and miles of Iowa, Nebraska and Eastern Colorado.

135 nkdee  Jan 22, 2015 5:43:08am

I know next to nothing about twitter. Can it be overloaded and thus shut down if there are, say, thousands of bogus names sent to Chuckie? If I were to send him “Edwina Karpovskistan” or “Elenor Krupke” or any number of fake names would his twitter account be so full or would he just whine that people were making his work as a “journalist” WAY to difficult?

136 Dr. Matt  Jan 22, 2015 5:44:08am

I can’t imagine Chuck’s wife is aware to what level her pig of husband sinks to on a daily basis.

137 Dr. Matt  Jan 22, 2015 5:45:59am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

Two Jews and a Muslim walk into a bar…

…..and no ones order a drink because they are all strict fundamentalists?

138 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 5:46:51am

re: #137 Dr. Matt

…..and neither order a drink because they are both strick fundamentalists?

The Juice can order adult beverages and the Muslim can order a soft drink.

139 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 5:47:33am

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

Two Jews and a Muslim walk into a bar…

…and turn right back around because it is a no-go area.

140 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 5:50:47am

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

There is a backlog of DNA testing on rape kits because the money isn’t there to get them done in a timely fashion. Some states have moved to clear the backlog faster than others, but it’s still a national problem. You did more journalism in a few tweets than Chuckles has done in trying to doxx yet another person.

Here’s the facts. Only three states require local law enforcement to count and keep track of untested kits.

n the past, the federal government estimated that hundreds of thousands of rape kits sit untested in police and crime storage facilities across the country in what is known as the rape kit backlog. Each kit represents a lost opportunity to bring healing and justice to a survivor of sexual violence.

We cannot be sure of the total number of untested kits nationwide because most jurisdictions do not have systems for tracking or counting rape kits. Only three states—Illinois, Texas and Colorado—require law enforcement agencies to count, track and test their untested kits. There is no federal law mandating a nationwide movement toward tracking and testing rape kits, despite efforts by some members of Congress to pass such legislation.

Jurisdictions often cite lack of resources and personnel as the largest barrier to processing more rape kits. Another, less frequently acknowledged, cause of the backlog is unwillingness among many law enforcement agencies to prioritize and dedicate sufficient resources to sexual assault cases.

Lack of money and lack of personnel to process the kits. So they sit. And rapists remain at large.

Add to that the fact that some law enforcement still don’t take rape victims’ statements and claims seriously, so even more incidents fall through the cracks.

All Chuckles can do is poop all over the victims. It’s all he does. It’s all he ever does. No compassion. No empathy. Just single minded determination to prove whatever nonsensical point he’s making - which is usually wrong or completely off-topic (but is guaranteed to get attention, which is his ultimate goal).

141 Dr. Matt  Jan 22, 2015 5:50:55am

Watch the whole video…..

142 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 5:51:27am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I hold every Jew in the world responsible for the actions of both these men.

/

Two Jews. Three opinions? /

143 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 5:52:27am

re: #142 lawhawk

Two Jews. Three opinions? /

Three opinions per Jew

144 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 6:04:07am

So, the massive fire in Edgewater NJ is still not yet out; more than 400 people have been displaced and the investigation is still in the earliest stages. The cause isn’t yet known, though I’ve seen some reports that it was the result of a plumber’s blowtorch doing a repair on one of the units.

All I know is that a fire should have been contained to one unit (or at least a couple of adjacent units. Instead, the fire swept through the entire complex. Yet, there’s reports saying that the complex was equipped with fire sprinklers. Something just doesn’t add up here.

Officials said the building was equipped with sprinklers and it was unclear why the flames spread so quickly in the 175-unit building, one of two at the complex.

Hundreds of firefighters from Bergen, Union and Hudson counties were on scene battling the blaze, one of the most destructive in the county’s history. Fire boats from New York City and Jersey City also responded to ferry water to fire crews, the mayor said.

There were injuries to some pets at the building, according to the mayor. Bergen County Humane Law Enforcement officers were at the scene tending to the animals and a representative could not immediately say how many pets were removed from the building.

The cause and origin of the fire remain under investigation, said Bergen County Executive James Tedesco, who joined McPartland at the scene.

145 Sionainn  Jan 22, 2015 6:08:24am

re: #34 A Cranky One

OT, but I’ve got a couple of photos of a quilt my spouse did for my daughter. I’ll post a few more as time permits, since folks seemed interested.

Did find out the previously posted quilt was from a pattern. I’ll try to find pics of a couple of her designs.

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Oh, that’s beautiful. I haven’t attempted a mariner’s compass type block because I know how hard it is to get those points done right.

146 Shvaughn  Jan 22, 2015 6:10:43am

God, Chuck is really gross and awful.

Yeah, I know I’m late to the party in this thread.

147 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 6:15:24am
148 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 6:16:35am

re: #144 lawhawk

149 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 22, 2015 6:19:42am

re:
#3

Meanwhile,

NEW YORK — New York City’s jails commissioner has fired five guards and a captain for the 2012 beating of a handcuffed Rikers Island inmate.

Joseph Ponte says in a statement Wednesday that most correction officers perform their jobs with integrity. He says there is “no room for this type of behavior on Rikers.”

Jail investigators found Robert Hinton suffered a broken nose and other injuries for refusing to be escorted in a now-shuttered solitary confinement dorm for mentally ill inmates.

They said guards fabricated a story that the 27-year-old man put one of them in a chokehold to justify the use-of-force.

cbsnews.com

The NYT story was even more graphic. They hogtied/cuffed this guy and beat him bloody, broke his nose and vertebrae. In another incident officers at Rikers got a prisoner into a space without a security camera and beat him to the point blood sprayed on the walls.

Sickening stuff. Glad DeBlasio is trying to clean things up.

150 darthstar  Jan 22, 2015 6:20:41am
151 Targetpractice  Jan 22, 2015 6:21:32am
152 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 6:23:47am

NYS Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver has been an Albany fixture for 2+ decades. He was Speaker back when I was working in the legislature. And he’s survived and thrived despite multiple scandals. But this is one scandal too far.

He’s being charged with corruption over payments from one law firm (he is of counsel with another firm too).

I’ve been saying for years that the legislature should stop being a part time gig; they pay full time wages ($79,500, plus perks on position). Yet, they allow members to work elsewhere - like law firms, and can serve up conflicts of interest in no time. Eliminate the outside work, and you eliminate a major source of conflicts of interest.

Silver has stood against those reforms for years, in part because he benefited from the status quo arrangement. According to the NYT:

While it is legal for lawmakers to hold outside jobs, investigators said Mr. Silver failed to list the payments from the firm, Goldberg & Iryami, on his annual financial disclosure filings with the state.

In the past, Mr. Silver has been criticized for his outside law practice, a lucrative career that supplements the $121,000 he earns as speaker.

In 2013, Mr. Silver earned at least $650,000 in legal income, including work for the personal injury law firm, Weitz & Luxenberg, according to his most recent financial disclosure filing.

But what he does to earn that income has long been a mystery in Albany, and Mr. Silver has refused to provide details about his work.

He also managed to survive threats to his speakership when there were multiple sexual harassment/sexual assault cases that his office bungled/fumbled/buried. His actions in those cases should have been grounds for his caucus to send him packing, but he used divide and conquer to split the caucus from picking a replacement.

But he couldn’t outrun federal prosecutor Preet Bharara. He’s managed to do more to roll up corruption in Albany than Gov. Cuomo’s defanged Moreland Commission. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. I suspect there’s lots more to come.

153 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 22, 2015 6:25:05am

re:
#151

Well, if he had to play a clean version of the song, doesn’t that sort of beg the question? Why is he hanging out with and seemingly condoning someone who’s music needs to be sanitized?

154 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 22, 2015 6:27:01am

re:
#152

Wow. Not surprising, given the reputation the NY legislature has had for decades. But still..

155 Targetpractice  Jan 22, 2015 6:27:18am

re: #153 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#151

Well, if he had to play a clean version of the song, doesn’t that sort of beg the question? Why is he hanging out with and seemingly condoning someone who’s music needs to be sanitized?

Likely because he figures the people in the early primaries who matter either A) love Nugent and/or his music or B) think the “moral guardians” are raising a fuss over nothing.

156 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 6:27:24am

re: #150 darthstar

The whole Mossad angle is interesting. In the past, the Mossad has stayed in the shadows and nonpolitical. But this is a huge departure to openly disagree with the PM on a foreign policy/diplomatic posture.

Netenyahu figures that going to Congress to talk will help with his reelection chances. The latest polling had been finding his party running neck and neck with the opposition in Labor/Hatnuah. But now that Mossad has come out and said that this isn’t a good idea might shift the outcome of the election even further towards the opposition.

It’s revealing as to the backroom dealings with the Netenyahu govt and what they’re willing to do to stay in office, even if it undermines efforts to reign in Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

157 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 6:29:06am

re: #153 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#151

Well, if he had to play a clean version of the song, doesn’t that sort of beg the question? Why is he hanging out with and seemingly condoning someone who’s music needs to be sanitized?

It’s more likely that he didn’t understand the meaning of Cat Scratch Fever. I mean all that talk about pussy and such…zoom!, right over his head. //

158 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 6:31:38am
159 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 6:33:01am

re: #157 WhatEVs

It’s more likely that he didn’t understand the meaning of Cat Scratch Fever. I mean all that talk about pussy and such…zoom!, right over his head. //

Family pets, family values…

160 Targetpractice  Jan 22, 2015 6:34:22am

re: #156 lawhawk

The whole Mossad angle is interesting. In the past, the Mossad has stayed in the shadows and nonpolitical. But this is a huge departure to openly disagree with the PM on a foreign policy/diplomatic posture.

Netenyahu figures that going to Congress to talk will help with his reelection chances. The latest polling had been finding his party running neck and neck with the opposition in Labor/Hatnuah. But now that Mossad has come out and said that this isn’t a good idea might shift the outcome of the election even further towards the opposition.

It’s revealing as to the backroom dealings with the Netenyahu govt and what they’re willing to do to stay in office, even if it undermines efforts to reign in Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

I’ve seen the suggest put out there that the best thing that the President could do in response to this latest ploy by the GOP is just to refuse to meet with Bibi while he’s in town. That by slamming the door in his face publicly, a message will be sent to Israeli voters that Netanyahu is endangering US-Israeli relations with his warmongering BS. Sure, the wingnuts will go apeshit and the pundits will opine at length about how this makes the President look “anti-Israeli,” but what’s the alternative? A very frosty reception where both sides mime cordial relations when in reality one is using the other to improve his chances at reelection?

161 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 22, 2015 6:37:23am

re:
#155

B) think the “moral guardians” are raising a fuss over nothing.

Although Huck wants to be regarded as one of those moral guardians when it suits him. Has made a career of it, actually. Wingnuts can be kind of funny that way.

162 Decatur Deb  Jan 22, 2015 6:38:01am

From a Gawker site: CCJ has a couple (twins) who are strongly similar to his shtick, but with a Weather Service fetish. They’ve apparently been at it for 12 years. (There’s also a touch of Barrett Brown in there.)

thevane.gawker.com

The video is important, as well as the comments.

163 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 6:43:17am

re: #160 Targetpractice

I’ve seen the suggest put out there that the best thing that the President could do in response to this latest ploy by the GOP is just to refuse to meet with Bibi while he’s in town. That by slamming the door in his face publicly, a message will be sent to Israeli voters that Netanyahu is endangering US-Israeli relations with his warmongering BS. Sure, the wingnuts will go apeshit and the pundits will opine at length about how this makes the President look “anti-Israeli,” but what’s the alternative? A very frosty reception where both sides mime cordial relations when in reality one is using the other to improve his chances at reelection?

I don’t think that’s the wisest course. Let the President meet with Bibi. Have it done in private. No public pomp and circumstances. The GOP will go nuts no matter what the President says or does, even if the US gives Israel billions more for anti-missile defense systems. The President could simply say that he’s not going to meddle in the internal politics of a near-dear ally like Israel, so saying/doing more than that would be inappropriate. Israel’s electorate will make the decision as they see fit, and the US will not meddle in the outcome. The GOP will, of course, claim that by not meddling, the US is meddling.

164 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 6:45:10am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Family pets, family values…

As long as the kiddies aren’t torturing and killing those family pets. But Mikey wouldn’t know anything about that, right? His kid would never, ever do something that awful (unless it was preparation for how to treat them poors when said kid runs for elected office, following in daddy’s footsteps).

165 Targetpractice  Jan 22, 2015 6:57:58am

re: #163 lawhawk

I don’t think that’s the wisest course. Let the President meet with Bibi. Have it done in private. No public pomp and circumstances. The GOP will go nuts no matter what the President says or does, even if the US gives Israel billions more for anti-missile defense systems. The President could simply say that he’s not going to meddle in the internal politics of a near-dear ally like Israel, so saying/doing more than that would be inappropriate. Israel’s electorate will make the decision as they see fit, and the US will not meddle in the outcome. The GOP will, of course, claim that by not meddling, the US is meddling.

Thing is, Bibi is a willing participant in this whole affair, it’s not as though he’s been snookered into accepting an invitation by the GOP. The man should be treated as an uninvited guest by the White House, not taken in so he can pose for a few photos and project the illusion that relations between him and the President are at least cordial. Even make a public statement that they don’t wish to present the image of meddling in Israeli political affairs by meeting with Netanyahu when he is the guest of the GOP, not of the President.

166 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 22, 2015 6:59:21am

re: #164 WhatEVs

As long as the kiddies aren’t torturing and killing those family pets. But Mikey wouldn’t know anything about that, right? His kid would never, ever do something that awful (unless it was preparation for how to treat them poors when said kid runs for elected office, following in daddy’s footsteps).

“That dog was gay!”

167 ObserverArt  Jan 22, 2015 7:01:23am

Good day!

Well, it was good before I read this thread.

I am now at the point where even seeing the small image of Chuck C. on his stupid tweets makes me want to hurl random objects. He cannot be taken down fast enough. Just. Go. Away.

168 Bubblehead II  Jan 22, 2015 7:02:06am
169 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 7:05:45am

Ah, Charles Pierce’s piece on Rick Santorum’s “sometimes very difficult to listen to” tirade about the pope.

Read the comments. Hysterical. I think the Wonkette crowd intersects with Pierce’s followers.

My fav comment:

“Sometimes very difficult to listen to Santorum—is that his real name?— and some of the things he says off the cuff, and this is one of them,” Pope Francis said. “When he he stops being a dick, I’ll certainly pay attention,” the Pontiff continued. “But when he speaks in interviews, he’s giving his own asshat opinions, which I certainly will listen to, but from my perspective, he’s a walking Exhibit A for the idea that people shouldn’t be fruitful and multiply, and that people should be open to the notion that they may be such a loser as to not bear children, particularly when the child might think and act like them. Doubling down on stupid is not a core value of the faith and of the Catholic Church.”

170 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 7:06:51am

re: #168 Bubblehead II

”“‘Liberal elites’?” the host scoffed. “You’re a doctor and a senator, with a 12-term congressman father and a first name synonymous with a Russian novelist. That’s pretty f*cking elite. So I guess the smear here is ‘liberal.’”“

171 Targetpractice  Jan 22, 2015 7:11:27am

Two RINOs enter! One RINO leaves!

172 iossarian  Jan 22, 2015 7:12:29am

re: #171 Targetpractice

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Two RINOs enter! One RINO leaves!

Maybe they’re discussing whether it’s a vote winner to go onstage with Ted Nugent and sing about fingering women’s vaginas.

173 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 7:14:35am

re: #172 iossarian

Maybe they’re discussing whether it’s a vote winner to go onstage with Ted Nugent and sing about fingering women’s vaginas.

Pet Rack Fever

174 wrenchwench  Jan 22, 2015 7:15:30am
175 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 22, 2015 7:17:38am

re: #163 lawhawk

I don’t think that’s the wisest course. Let the President meet with Bibi. Have it done in private. No public pomp and circumstances. The GOP will go nuts no matter what the President says or does, even if the US gives Israel billions more for anti-missile defense systems. The President could simply say that he’s not going to meddle in the internal politics of a near-dear ally like Israel, so saying/doing more than that would be inappropriate. Israel’s electorate will make the decision as they see fit, and the US will not meddle in the outcome. The GOP will, of course, claim that by not meddling, the US is meddling.

I disagree. Netanyahu was invited by the Congressional GOP, not the president. Bibi’s visit has everything to do with derailing the painstaking progress we’ve managed to make in relations with Iran and nothing to do with what’s best for the region or for the US. If Obama meets with him under these circumstances he’ll appear to be validating the Congressional GOP’s attempts to meddle in foreign policy. The last thing I’d want to see is the GOP fucking that up like they fuck up everything else that they touch.

176 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 7:20:40am

re: #172 iossarian

Blech. That’s a mental image I did not need. (shudder)

177 iossarian  Jan 22, 2015 7:22:25am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Pet Rack Fever

“Just clearin’ some brush here.”

178 iossarian  Jan 22, 2015 7:24:31am

re: #176 WhatEVs

Blech. That’s a mental image I did not need. (shudder)

Sorry to be crude. I think it’s worthwhile to hammer on this point though. These straight white god-fearin’ dudes are all about family values and “black thugs are so morally corrupt” but then if there’s a vote in it they’re up on stage crooning about how they got STDs by screwing a bunch of loose women.

It’s bizarre even beyond the surface hypocrisy.

179 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 22, 2015 7:27:31am

re: #171 Targetpractice

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Two RINOs enter! One RINO leaves!

“Heads I win, tails you lose.”
“No. Heads I win, tails you lose.”
“I said it first.”
“So what, I have more money than you do.”
“My daddy and my brother were both presidents.”
“Doesn’t count.”
“Does so.”
“Does not…”

180 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 7:31:31am

re: #178 iossarian

Oh, please, be as crude as you want. I don’t care about that. It’s not that what you wrote was crude, it was putting those two in the picture. It was not like thinking about mommy and daddy doing the deed. It was more like thinking about grandma and grandpa getting it on.

Come to think of it, I pretty much have that reaction to those two no matter what they’re doing. :-)

181 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 7:32:55am

re: #171 Targetpractice

Thunderdome.

182 ObserverArt  Jan 22, 2015 7:35:21am

So if Bonehead has Netanyahu address Congress in a special session, do the Democratic members even need to show up? I would think having no Democrats at the session would send a pretty strong message, and might get the point across without the President even being involved.

183 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 22, 2015 7:35:23am

re: #181 lawhawk

Thunderdome.

The Bush/Romney meeting is one of those rare instances when it’s absolutely safe to say that no good will come of this.

184 Dr. Matt  Jan 22, 2015 7:36:28am

Even if the Huckster played a “clean version” of Nugent’s song (which he didn’t), he still appeared on stage with an admitted pedophile and draft dodger.

185 Timothy Watson  Jan 22, 2015 7:37:25am

re: #151 Targetpractice

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What’s with the GOP and their affection for pants shitters?

186 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 7:37:49am

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

Yep, a huge dick. Just gonna mute in Tweetdeck.

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No, we are lighting our hair on fire precisely because this doesn’t happen. And it never happened before we got pissed-off enough to make it happen.

187 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 7:38:22am

Watch: Vigilante White Guy Tackles Black Man Licensed to Carry a Gun

Florida.

188 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 7:39:34am

re: #187 FemNaziBitch

Watch: Vigilante White Guy Tackles Black Man Licensed to Carry a Gun

Florida.

Florida Man strikes again. Hope he gets done for assault.

189 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 22, 2015 7:40:04am

this lunatic’s last step before suicide will be to publish the name and all available lifetime activity and info of the girl who turned down his advances in 10th grade.

The level of hatred for women in this guy I have never seen before- at least someone who isn’t already dead or in prison.

190 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 7:41:37am

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

Three opinions per Jew

Don’t they first have to debate for a year or two on the meaning of “per”?

191 nearly-headless smith25  Jan 22, 2015 7:42:05am

Man oh man…

192 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 7:42:11am

Here is my Field of Fucks for Domino’s, the guy who built the only town in America ruled by Sharia Church Law.

193 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 7:42:57am

re: #140 lawhawk

There is a backlog of DNA testing on rape kits because the money isn’t there to get them done in a timely fashion. Some states have moved to clear the backlog faster than others, but it’s still a national problem. You did more journalism in a few tweets than Chuckles has done in trying to doxx yet another person.

Here’s the facts. Only three states require local law enforcement to count and keep track of untested kits.

Lack of money and lack of personnel to process the kits. So they sit. And rapists remain at large.

Add to that the fact that some law enforcement still don’t take rape victims’ statements and claims seriously, so even more incidents fall through the cracks.

All Chuckles can do is poop all over the victims. It’s all he does. It’s all he ever does. No compassion. No empathy. Just single minded determination to prove whatever nonsensical point he’s making - which is usually wrong or completely off-topic (but is guaranteed to get attention, which is his ultimate goal).

All the more reason to make rape a federal crime. WE uniform standards and too many sexual assault crimes involve either victims or criminals who cross state lines.

194 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 22, 2015 7:43:14am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Florida Man strikes again. Hope he gets done for assault.

Article says that he was arrested and charged with battery.

195 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 22, 2015 7:43:51am

Feb. 11th, 2015: Israeli Premier Netanyahu addresses Congress.
Feb.12th, 2015: Congress passes bill directing the president to hasten the End Times.

196 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 7:44:22am

Well, this is a kinda important Page.

See some of the links below, there was a shot series given in the 60’s that proved ineffective - if you received that shot, you don’t have immunity.

197 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 7:45:29am

re: #192 The Vicious Babushka

Here is my Field of Fucks for Domino’s, the guy who built the only town in America ruled by Sharia Church Law.

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There are no end of easy workarounds for that, they are just whining like a two-year-old who cannot reach the spoon without leaning over.

198 ObserverArt  Jan 22, 2015 7:45:41am

For any auto racing fans in LGF land (of which I am one…) just heard Jeff Gordon has announced this will be his last year on the NASCAR circuit. I don’t follow NASCAR all that much, but I find it a bit surprising. And then again…maybe not. Maybe he just wants to enjoy life without all the travel and sponsor duties, etc. It is a long season.

199 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 7:46:39am

re: #192 The Vicious Babushka

Here is my Field of Fucks for Domino’s, the guy who built the only town in America ruled by Sharia Church Law.

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So is it a town or a golf club whose members are woefully behind on their dues?

200 Timothy Watson  Jan 22, 2015 7:47:34am

re: #192 The Vicious Babushka

Here is my Field of Fucks for Domino’s, the guy who built the only town in America ruled by Sharia Church Law.

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I like how every wingnut seems to think every regulation is due to Obamacare…

201 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 22, 2015 7:48:57am

re:
#195

Feb. 13th, 2015: Congress passes Fair Tax bill to create a flat tax rate to ensure a future of strong economic growth.”

/

202 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 7:49:10am

re: #200 Timothy Watson

I like how every wingnut seems to think every regulation is due to Obamacare…

Well of course.

203 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 7:50:19am

re: #200 Timothy Watson

I like how every wingnut seems to think every regulation is due to Obamacare…

The regulation has nothing to do with Obamacare, it’s a new requirement of the FDA that fast food has to include calorie count in their nutritional information.

Considering that fast food portions are processed according to corporate and industry metrics, that little bit of information shouldn’t be too difficult to obtain. It’s just they are afraid consumers will see it and be more conscious of what they order.

204 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 7:50:25am

re: #174 wrenchwench

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Excellent.

205 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 7:50:31am

re: #200 Timothy Watson

I like how every wingnut seems to think every regulation is due to Obamacare…

Or that business can’t efficiently handle their finances—so just blame it on the gubernet.

206 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 7:51:53am

You know what regarding the government and health. Wingnuts are the same people who bitch up a storm about “their hardearned taxdollars” going to someone else’s health care yet they also have a problem with POTUS and FLOTUS especially encouraging more healthy eating. I WANNA EAT ALL THE DEEP FRIED SHIT I WANT BUT I WANNA BITCH WHEN I HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMEONE ELSE’S MEDICAL EXPENSES.

207 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 22, 2015 7:53:05am

re:
#200

I like how every wingnut seems to think every regulation is due to Obamacare…

Government regulation is terrible, a violation of Freedom, and unconstitutional.

Oh, here is are Bill to make abortion teh illegal and make womenz who claim so-called “rape” to prove real rape.

/

208 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 7:55:32am

re: #207 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#200

Government regulation is terrible, a violation of Freedom, and unconstitutional.

Oh, here is are Bill to make abortion teh illegal and make womenz who claim so-called “rape” to prove real rape.

/

Or here is a bill to force women getting an abortion to get a transvaginal ultrasound before the procedure is done but we’re against the nanny state we swear it! Really fuck the wingnuts. They’re not against big government at all. They’re against any government program that may benefit people other than themselves and that’s at the crux of their hatred for ACA. The fact that someone previously uninsured may now get insured just outrages them because they’re convinced that they and only they deserve anything.

209 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 7:55:58am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

You know what regarding the government and health. Wingnuts are the same people who bitch up a storm about “their hardearned taxdollars” going to someone else’s health care yet they also have a problem with POTUS and FLOTUS especially encouraging more healthy eating. I WANNA EAT ALL THE DEEP FRIED SHIT I WANT BUT I WANNA BITCH WHEN I HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMEONE ELSE’S MEDICAL EXPENSES.

HURR HURR LOOK AT TEH DELICIOUS FOOD OBAMA’S KIDS GET TO ENJOY AT THERE SCHOOL BUT TEH PUBLIC SCHOOL CAFETERIAS HAVE TO SERVE MICHELLE’S HORRIBLE SHIT HURR HURR!!!!!!!!!

Like school lunches were never the object of ridicule ever.

210 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 7:58:22am

re: #209 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR LOOK AT TEH DELICIOUS FOOD OBAMA’S KIDS GET TO ENJOY AT THERE SCHOOL BUT TEH PUBLIC SCHOOL CAFETERIAS HAVE TO SERVE MICHELLE’S HORRIBLE SHIT HURR HURR!!!!!!!!!

Like school lunches were never the object of ridicule ever.

Americans are particularly obsessed with bodily openings, and all the things that go into and come out of them.

211 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 7:59:39am

re: #209 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR LOOK AT TEH DELICIOUS FOOD OBAMA’S KIDS GET TO ENJOY AT THERE SCHOOL BUT TEH PUBLIC SCHOOL CAFETERIAS HAVE TO SERVE MICHELLE’S HORRIBLE SHIT HURR HURR!!!!!!!!!

Like school lunches were never the object of ridicule ever.

Yeah not like the school lunches were to die for in the Bush years or the Clinton years. Really, we have record levels of obesity in children. It’s a very real problem.

212 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:02:08am

back on the legitimate rape meme:

In the meantime, said Graham, the pain capable bill would need to be tweaked and rescued. “We need to find a consensus position on the rape exception,” he said. “The rape exception will be part of the bill. We just need to find a way definitionally to not get us into a spot where we’re debating what legitimate is. That’s not the cause. We’re not here debating legitimate rape. We’re talking about saving babies at 20 weeks.”

and this insane logic from the same article:

After Santorum left, South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham took the rostrum and asked activists to cheer up. “My belief is that most Americans will say, when they understand this issue, that nothing bad comes out of debating it,” he said. “The medical community is required to administer anesthesia to a child older than 20 weeks if there’s surgery on a pregnant woman… if the medical community is protecting the baby from pain, should we not stand up to protect the baby from death?”

213 De Kolta Chair  Jan 22, 2015 8:02:44am

Regarding Sheldon Silver, and paraphrasing Lord Acton — power corrupts, and being in the NY State Assembly corrupts absolutely.

214 Snarknado!  Jan 22, 2015 8:04:34am

re: #212 FemNaziBitch

How can you anesthetize the mother without anesthetizing the fetus?

215 CuriousLurker  Jan 22, 2015 8:05:06am

re: #175 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I disagree. Netanyahu was invited by the Congressional GOP, not the president. Bibi’s visit has everything to do with derailing the painstaking progress we’ve managed to make in relations with Iran and nothing to do with what’s best for the region or for the US. If Obama meets with him under these circumstances he’ll appear to be validating the Congressional GOP’s attempts to meddle in foreign policy. The last thing I’d want to see is the GOP fucking that up like they fuck up everything else that they touch.

This whole thing is making me really resent Netanyahu and the GOP, and I didn’t think I could resent the latter further. Both the former and the latter are attempting to insert themselves into our foreign policy and it pisses me off.

Presidents & PMs get briefed by agencies like the CIA & Mossad on a level the rest of us (including Congress) don’t. That the Mossad is breaking with Netanyahu over this leads me to suspect that there may be much more to it, and more at stake, than we realize.

Netanyahu has no business meddling in our internal politics, regardless of whether or not the GOP invited him. He sure as hell doesn’t like anyone telling Israel what they should do and has said so on more than one occasion. Like Israel’s PM, our President’s job is do what’s in the best interests of the United States, not the interests of some foreign country (or their PM’s political needs), regardless of how chummy our relationship is with them.

The fact that the GOP is willing to use a foreign leader to try to influence internal foreign policy decisions SUCKS in a major way and makes me despise them more than usual. It’s far too easy to imagine the howls of outrage and finger pointing about unpatriotic treachery that would occur if the Dems did the same to a sitting GOP President.

216 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:06:08am
217 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:08:23am

re: #209 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR LOOK AT TEH DELICIOUS FOOD OBAMA’S KIDS GET TO ENJOY AT THERE SCHOOL BUT TEH PUBLIC SCHOOL CAFETERIAS HAVE TO SERVE MICHELLE’S HORRIBLE SHIT HURR HURR!!!!!!!!!

Like school lunches were never the object of ridicule ever.

I remember some high school kid who had a blog and was always posting pictures from her daily school lunch menu. If that didn’t make people go Hmmm? after looking at the shit they give to kids, I don’t know what would.

This isn’t the blog I referred to, but these are pics of school lunches. I wouldn’t feed half this shit to my dogs.

218 CuriousLurker  Jan 22, 2015 8:09:30am

re: #216 FemNaziBitch

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Heh—Good one, the part about the pin.

219 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:09:44am

re: #214 Snarknado!

How can you anesthetize the mother without anesthetizing the fetus?

I guess they are talking about rare instances in which a 20 week old fetus is born pre-mature and needs surgery.

In such a case, one would anesthetize the infant for safety reasons and to make it possible for the surgeon to perform the surgery at all, not just for pain. Pain is the reason the body won’t stay still for surgery.

IIRC, no pre-mature child born at 20 weeks has ever survived. I think 21 weeks is the best so far.

220 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:10:33am

re: #217 WhatEVs

I remember some high school kid who had a blog and was always posting pictures from her daily school lunch menu. If that didn’t make people go Hmmm? after looking at the shit they give to kids, I don’t know what would.

This isn’t the blog I referred to, but these are pics of school lunches. I wouldn’t feed half this shit to my dogs.

Hell they considered the school lunches I had growing up in Fairfax County among the best in the nation. If those were “good”, I shiver to think about what bad or even average was. I actually started bringing my own lunch. Really the stupid wingnuts are like little kids when it comes to nutrition. IF IT IS HEALTHY, IT MUST TASTE BAD.

221 Bubblehead II  Jan 22, 2015 8:11:48am

re: #215 CuriousLurker

This whole thing is making me really resent Netanyahu and the GOP, and I didn’t think I could resent the latter further. Both the former and the latter are attempting to insert themselves into our foreign policy and it pisses me off.

Presidents & PMs get briefed by agencies like the CIA & Mossad on a level the rest of us (including Congress) doesn’t. That the Mossad is breaking with Netanyahu over this leads me to suspect that there may be much more to it, and more at stake, than we realize.

Netanyahu has no business meddling in our internal politics, regardless of whether or not the GOP invited him. He sure as hell doesn’t like anyone telling Israel what they should do and has said so on more than one occasion. Like Israel’s PM, our President’s job is do what’s in the best interests of the United States, not the interests of some foreign country (or their PM’s political needs), regardless of how chummy our relationship is with them.

The fact that the GOP is willing to use a foreign leader to try to influence internal foreign policy decisions SUCKS in a major way and makes me despise them more than usual. It’s far too easy to imagine the howls of outrage and finger pointing about unpatriotic treachery that would occur if the Dems did the same to a sitting GOP President.

I can sum that outrage up in one word.

TREASON 11TTTYYY!!!

222 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 8:11:49am

re: #217 WhatEVs

I remember some high school kid who had a blog and was always posting pictures from her daily school lunch menu. If that didn’t make people go Hmmm? after looking at the shit they give to kids, I don’t know what would.

This isn’t the blog I referred to, but these are pics of school lunches. I wouldn’t feed half this shit to my dogs.

Consider the budget that public schools receive and ask how the hell can anyone make decent lunches with that? It’s like taking the Food Stamp Minimum Wage Challenge.

223 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 8:13:31am

Also too: private catering companies like Aramark are just frothing to get the public schools contract.

224 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:14:19am

re: #220 HappyWarrior

Hell they considered the school lunches I had growing up in Fairfax County among the best in the nation. If those were “good”, I shiver to think about what bad or even average was. I actually started bringing my own lunch. Really the stupid wingnuts are like little kids when it comes to nutrition. IF IT IS HEALTHY, IT MUST TASTE BAD.

When I was a kid, a salad was iceberg lettuce with a couple of carrot shavings and a cherry tomato. To this day I loathe iceberg lettuce (to me it is on par with Styrofoam shipping popcorn).

Back in my day I don’t think there was any health standards. There was a hot dog stand across the street from my high school and that’s where a lot of kids ate. (Chicago, after all, does have some fantastic hot dogs!)

Today, healthy food actually does taste good, if you use a spice other than salt and the occasional pepper flake.

225 De Kolta Chair  Jan 22, 2015 8:14:50am

re: #216 FemNaziBitch

When John Boehner doesn’t wear a flag pin at the SOTU the terrorists win.

226 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:16:02am

i think there was only one time that I was excited to eat school cafeteria food and that was the first time we got to eat in the cafeteria at the end of the kindergarten year and then you know I actually tried the cafteria food. Really cafeteria food wasn’t beloved before Obama when I was a kid and it’s not going suddenly become beloved by American schoolchildren if President True Conservative Good School Lunch gets elected.

227 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 22, 2015 8:16:34am

re:
#212

We’re not here debating legitimate rape. We’re talking about saving babies at 20 weeks.”

“…And banning all abortions, the morning after pill, condoms and all other forms of birth control and contraceptives. God Bless Freedom and America.”

228 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:17:02am

re: #224 WhatEVs

When I was a kid, a salad was iceberg lettuce with a couple of carrot shavings and a cherry tomato. To this day I loathe iceberg lettuce (to me it is on par with Styrofoam shipping popcorn).

Back in my day I don’t think there was any health standards. There was a hot dog stand across the street from my high school and that’s where a lot of kids ate. (Chicago, after all, does have some fantastic hot dogs!)

Today, healthy food actually does taste good, if you use a spice other than salt and the occasional pepper flake.

I can still remember the pizza. It looked and tasted like cardboard.

229 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:17:12am

re: #223 The Vicious Babushka

Also too: private catering companies like Aramark are just frothing to get the public schools contract.

I used to work at a company that did free lunches for all its employees and used one of the industrial food companies for the catering. Honestly, the food was good. Maybe not restaurant good but at least on par with (if not better than) Subway and the fast food burger chains. I don’t think it was Aramark…I don’t recall the name (I would if I saw it).

If that could be had for school lunches, kids wouldn’t throw out their lunches.

230 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 8:17:14am

School lunch sucked back in the ‘50’s when it cost 35¢

231 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:18:02am

re: #227 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#212

“…And banning all abortions, the morning after pill, condoms and all other forms of birth control and contraceptives. God Bless Freedom and America.”

The epitome of small government. So small you can drown it in a vagina.

232 Targetpractice  Jan 22, 2015 8:18:49am

re: #215 CuriousLurker

This whole thing is making me really resent Netanyahu and the GOP, and I didn’t think I could resent the latter further. Both the former and the latter are attempting to insert themselves into our foreign policy and it pisses me off.

Presidents & PMs get briefed by agencies like the CIA & Mossad on a level the rest of us (including Congress) don’t. That the Mossad is breaking with Netanyahu over this leads me to suspect that there may be much more to it, and more at stake, than we realize.

Netanyahu has no business meddling in our internal politics, regardless of whether or not the GOP invited him. He sure as hell doesn’t like anyone telling Israel what they should do and has said so on more than one occasion. Like Israel’s PM, our President’s job is do what’s in the best interests of the United States, not the interests of some foreign country (or their PM’s political needs), regardless of how chummy our relationship is with them.

The fact that the GOP is willing to use a foreign leader to try to influence internal foreign policy decisions SUCKS in a major way and makes me despise them more than usual. It’s far too easy to imagine the howls of outrage and finger pointing about unpatriotic treachery that would occur if the Dems did the same to a sitting GOP President.

Hell, I don’t have to imagine it. How many times during Dubya’s reign did we get told that we shouldn’t allow foreign governments a “veto” on our foreign policy?

233 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 22, 2015 8:19:15am

re:
#216

Obama should have turned around, taken off his flag pin, handed it to Bayner, and said, “Here, you look like you could use a flag pin. And any other mutherfckers here who didn’t wear their flag pin tonight?”

234 Lancelot Link  Jan 22, 2015 8:19:32am

I guess Netanyahu is here to meet the Republican members of the Jewish Congressional Caucus; all zero of them.

235 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 22, 2015 8:19:40am

re: #229 WhatEVs

I used to work at a company that did free lunches for all its employees and used one of the industrial food companies for the catering. Honestly, the food was good. Maybe not restaurant good but at least on par with (if not better than) Subway and the fast food burger chains. I don’t think it was Aramark…I don’t recall the name (I would if I saw it).

If that could be had for school lunches, kids wouldn’t throw out their lunches.

Sodexo?

236 Timothy Watson  Jan 22, 2015 8:21:54am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

I can still remember the pizza. It looked and tasted like cardboard.

The pizza here in the Caroline County schools was pretty good actually, but that was about it.

I absolutely hated the fish sandwiches, I would go hungry through the day rather than eat those.

237 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 8:22:13am

Ben Shapiro is spamming Teh Twitters with fetus porn.

238 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:22:34am

re: #232 Targetpractice

Hell, I don’t have to imagine it. How many times during Dubya’s reign did we get told that we shouldn’t allow foreign governments a “veto” on our foreign policy?

And something about foreign politics not taking place beyond the shores of the US. But that’s only when a Republican is in office. If it’s a Dem, fuck the US, and our foreign policy.

Rage doesn’t begin to cover it for me. As a leader in the global everything, that the GOP is actively trying to fuck up the US, which will have global repercussions, I can’t begin to express the anger I feel.

And for that, this voter will never, ever, EVER vote for a Republican again. I will obtain from voting before doing ticking off that GOP box.

239 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:22:42am

re: #234 Lancelot Link

I guess Netanyahu is here to meet the Republican members of the Jewish Congressional Caucus; all zero of them.

Yeah that’s right. The party that professes to love Israel and Jews doesn’t have a single frigging Jewish congressional member and I don’t think they have any governors either but somehow Obama and the Dems are the Anti-Semites because Obama doesn’t kiss Bibi’s ass.

240 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:23:19am

re: #235 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Sodexo?

Yes, that was it! I knew it started with an S but could not remember the name. Thanks!

241 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:24:48am

re: #236 Timothy Watson

The pizza here in the Caroline County schools was pretty good actually, but that was about it.

I absolutely hated the fish sandwiches, I would go hungry through the day rather than eat those.

Oh god. That was enough to turn anyone off of fish. But yeah here in Fairfax, I really can’t recall anyone who loved the food. Sure plenty of people bought their lunch but plenty brought too. I’m sure there’s many a wingnut out there who would be happy to dispose of the school lunch program all together.

242 Targetpractice  Jan 22, 2015 8:27:27am

Of course, there is an alternative to whose who think that removing the welcome mat at the White House while Bibi is in town is a bad move: Just leave town for the length of his visit. Go give speeches, tour hospitals, take photo ops at military bases, or just play a few rounds of golf on the other side of the country. If anybody asks, the President had already planned to be out of town and couldn’t make time to see the Israeli PM.

243 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:27:29am

That Exploding Kittens Kickstarter that was trying to raise $10k, is now up to:

67,773 backers

$2,651,045 pledged of $10,000 goal

28 days to go

244 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 22, 2015 8:27:44am

re: #229 WhatEVs

I used to work at a company that did free lunches for all its employees and used one of the industrial food companies for the catering. Honestly, the food was good. Maybe not restaurant good but at least on par with (if not better than) Subway and the fast food burger chains. I don’t think it was Aramark…I don’t recall the name (I would if I saw it).

If that could be had for school lunches, kids wouldn’t throw out their lunches.

I’m not sure that the regulations for some school districts would allow food service to be contracted out - even if food service budgets were sufficient to pay for contracting.

245 iossarian  Jan 22, 2015 8:28:18am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s right. The party that professes to love Israel and Jews doesn’t have a single frigging Jewish congressional member and I don’t think they have any governors either but somehow Obama and the Dems are the Anti-Semites because Obama doesn’t kiss Bibi’s ass.

Does the lingering after-effect of Eric Cantor count?

246 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:28:25am

I posted this on the below thread:

Female Republicans are not freaking out over the bill, they are positioning themselves for 2016.

Let’s see how they vote on the Hyde Amendment …

247 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:28:57am

re: #244 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m not sure that the regulations for some school districts would allow food service to be contracted out - even if food service budgets were sufficient to pay for contracting.

Do you have an example? I don’t understand this.

248 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:29:30am

re: #245 iossarian

Does the lingering after-effect of Eric Cantor count?

He who was apparently very deeply disliked by his cohorts? Probably not. :)

249 iossarian  Jan 22, 2015 8:31:50am

Contract food services can be very good, but it’s all about the dollars per plate. It’s not like you can magically obtain fresh vegetables for the same amount of money as you pay for pink slime.

School and prison food is crappy (when it’s crappy) because LOW TAXES ALWAYS AND EVERYWHERE.

250 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:33:40am

from the ACLU 1994:

Although the Hyde Amendment has been reenacted every year since 1976, the exceptions to the funding ban have varied over the years. After hard-fought battles in Congress, the fiscal 1978 Hyde Amendment contained — in addition to the exception for life endangerment — new exceptions for rape and incest victims and women whose health would be severely damaged by carrying a pregnancy to term. However, in 1980 the Supreme Court decided Harris v. McRae (formerly McRae v. Mathews) and upheld the constitutionality of the original Hyde Amendment language containing a single exception for life endangerment. Thereafter, Congress enacted the Hyde Amendment with only that exception from the second half of fiscal 1981 through fiscal 1993. In fiscal 1994 and 1995, the Hyde Amendment again contained exceptions for rape and incest victims.

251 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 22, 2015 8:34:29am

re: #247 WhatEVs

Do you have an example? I don’t understand this.

I just Gurgled “school district contract food service” and found that there are plenty of districts that do contract out food service. I was thinking that the regulations in some districts may require that food service must be kept in-house. My local school district does so. I couldn’t quickly determine whether it’s mandated or not.

252 Targetpractice  Jan 22, 2015 8:35:27am

re: #246 FemNaziBitch

I posted this on the below thread:

Let’s see how they vote on the Hyde Amendment …

That’s a formality at this point. Personally, I wish the media would acknowledge that all this “sudden change of heart” business is bunk, that the anti-choice legislation passed last year with many of those who are now supposedly up in arms voting for it. The opposition to the bill had everything to do with fear that it would hurt incumbent Republicans next year during their reelection bids.

253 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:35:56am

re: #245 iossarian

Does the lingering after-effect of Eric Cantor count?

I dunno. Maybe Dave Brat does but I’m sure he’s busy marrying Ayn Rand to John Calvin.

254 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:36:16am

re: #249 iossarian

Contract food services can be very good, but it’s all about the dollars per plate. It’s not like you can magically obtain fresh vegetables for the same amount of money as you pay for pink slime.

School and prison food is crappy (when it’s crappy) because LOW TAXES ALWAYS AND EVERYWHERE.

One of my favorite industrial foods was how the managed leftovers. All the meat and veggies from the prior day was turned into a variety of soups. They made the best soups, never just tasty water with a few thrown in chewy bits. Real tummy filling food.

None of the low tax crowd, like anyone else virtually anywhere, can look past tomorrow (or for business, the next quarterly or annual report). Looking at children as the future of a country is not allowed when it intersects with the concept of no taxes for anything.

255 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:37:44am

“State abortion funding” by Blank US Map.svg: User:Theshibbolethderivative work: His male lover - Blank US Map.svg with information from the ACLU. Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 via Wikimedia Commons - commons.wikimedia.org

256 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:38:00am

re: #251 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I just Gurgled “school district contract food service” and found that there are plenty of districts that do contract out food service. I was thinking that the regulations in some districts may require that food service must be kept in-house. My local school district does so. I couldn’t quickly determine whether it’s mandated or not.

If I was to venture a guess, I would think any regulations of that sort would come from local/state elected officials, a la city investments in broadband.

257 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 8:38:24am

The end of the Romney campaign. I think the headline is wrong. It should have read “I’m One of two Republicans Who Belives in Climate Change”.

Mitt Romney: ‘I’m One Of Those Republicans’ Who Believes In Climate Change

“I’m one of those Republicans who thinks we are getting warmer and that we contribute to that,” he said of climate change, charging that federal leaders have failed to enact global agreements needed to tackle the problem.

huffingtonpost.com

258 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:39:11am

I think the quality of school lunches has everything to do with the person in charge of it.

Some Cafeteria mangers really get into it and want to create a buzz with the kids. Others just do a job.

259 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:39:52am

re: #257 Skip Intro

The end of the Romney campaign.

Mitt Romney: ‘I’m One Of Those Republicans’ Who Believes In Climate Change

huffingtonpost.com

That’s definitely not going to get him past the primary. And that is the problem with anyone the GOP puts up. Whomever wins the primary can’t win the general. You cannot pander to the base and expect that your every sentiment isn’t being recorded for infinite loop playback in the general.

260 De Kolta Chair  Jan 22, 2015 8:40:24am

re: #257 Skip Intro

The last nail
261 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:40:34am

re: #257 Skip Intro

The end of the Romney campaign.

Mitt Romney: ‘I’m One Of Those Republicans’ Who Believes In Climate Change

huffingtonpost.com

It’s too early in the morning for me to formulate a sarcastic line, but my idea is that Mitt (and otohers) emit soo much hot air, they think the climate has always been this warm.

Someome do it for me.

262 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 8:41:11am

re: #259 WhatEVs

The GOP can win if the same idiots who sat out 2014 do it again in 2016. Having Hillary as the candidate isn’t going to help much.

263 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:41:23am

re: #257 Skip Intro

The end of the Romney campaign.

Mitt Romney: ‘I’m One Of Those Republicans’ Who Believes In Climate Change

huffingtonpost.com

Sounds like another Romney flip flop special to me. Didn’t he pander to the deneir side in 2012?

264 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 22, 2015 8:41:49am

re: #175 Higgs Boson’s Mate

He could meet with him. And the idiots that invited him. Only to tell them to fuck off.

265 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 8:42:46am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

I’d need access to a supercomputer to keep track of Romney’s positions over the years.

266 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:43:22am

re: #259 WhatEVs

That’s definitely not going to get him past the primary. And that is the problem with anyone the GOP puts up. Whomever wins the primary can’t win the general. You cannot pander to the base and expect that your every sentiment isn’t being recorded for infinite loop playback in the general.

Yep. Mitt in primary: We need to make illegal immigrants self deport and here is my immigration adviser and writer of the infamous Arizona immigration law, Kris Kobach
Mitt in GE: I welcome all immigrants, I promise!
Seriously, the nominee’s going to be some establishment dude who will reduce himself to pandering like McCain and Romney did but the base still won’t trust him so he’ll be forced to choose some right wing sweetheart who the right will profess “scares the left” but in reality disturbs the rest of the country even more.

267 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 22, 2015 8:43:48am

re: #257 Skip Intro

Mitt Romney: ‘I’m One Of Those Republicans’ Who Believes In Climate Change

268 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:45:02am
269 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:45:24am

re: #262 Skip Intro

The GOP can win if the same idiots who sat out 2014 do it again in 2016. Having Hillary as the candidate isn’t going to help much.

Said idiots do not tend to sit out a presidential cycle. They do, repeatedly, sit out midterms.

I’d vote for Hillary. I’d have voted for her last time if she had made it through to the general election.

270 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:46:07am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

Sounds like another Romney flip flop special to me. Didn’t he pander to the deneir side in 2012?

To quote McCaskill…Whiplash!

271 BeenHereAwhile  Jan 22, 2015 8:46:40am

re: #198 ObserverArt

For any auto racing fans in LGF land (of which I am one…) just heard Jeff Gordon has announced this will be his last year on the NASCAR circuit. I don’t follow NASCAR all that much, but I find it a bit surprising. And then again…maybe not. Maybe he just wants to enjoy life without all the travel and sponsor duties, etc. It is a long season.

Hadn’t really followed NASCAR racing since the days of Fireball Roberts & Smokey Yunick.

en.m.wikipedia.org

But made an exception for Jeff Gordon, as he has proven throughout his career that he could win driving anything; on dirt tracks, NASCAR turn lefts, and road racing. Gordon seemed to have the ability to find the racing groove on the track; be it high, low, or in the middle.

Gordon was also denied at least two NASCAR championships by NASCAR rule changes.

272 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 8:47:12am

re: #270 WhatEVs

Romney will say he believes everything if it help gets him elected.

273 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:47:51am

re: #272 Skip Intro

Romney will say he believes everything if it help gets him elected.

It’s his god-given destiny …

*spit*

274 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:47:54am

re: #272 Skip Intro

Romney will say he believes everything if it help gets him elected.

Yep story of Mitt’s political career.

275 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:48:15am

re: #268 FemNaziBitch

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What kind of person……

276 No Country For Old Haters  Jan 22, 2015 8:48:22am

re: #259 WhatEVs

That’s definitely not going to get him past the primary. And that is the problem with anyone the GOP puts up. Whomever wins the primary can’t win the general. You cannot pander to the base and expect that your every sentiment isn’t being recorded for infinite loop playback in the general.

Yep. Republicans are doomed by modern media, because whatever crazy nonsense they say to keep their wingnut base happy doesn’t go away when they try to win the general election.

277 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:48:41am
278 iossarian  Jan 22, 2015 8:48:59am

re: #272 Skip Intro

Romney will say he believes everything if it help gets him elected.

RomneyBot 2016:

“Let’s deal with poverty,” he said Wednesday night. “Have we done it? No. Let’s do it.”

Fuck you Romney and your party’s history of screwing the poor.

279 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:49:02am

re: #268 FemNaziBitch

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OMFG. I mean seriously OMFG. Not just OMG.

I hate people.

280 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:49:16am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

What kind of person……

Do not get me started . . .

I already have a headache.

281 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 8:50:51am

re: #269 WhatEVs

One of Hillary’s problems is she doesn’t generate much excitement among younger (or older) voters. Obama did, and so did Bill Clinton. She’s going to be 2016’s Al Gore, except with a whole lot more hate sent her way.

The GOP is going to go with the tried and true 24/7 message of hate and fear to get their votes out. I’m not sure what the Dems will do to get out theirs.

282 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:50:52am

re: #280 FemNaziBitch

Do not get me started …

I already have a headache.

It hits close to home. My niece is 10 months. I don’t know what I would do if I found out someone did something like that to here. I’m not a violent guy I swear but.

283 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:51:47am
284 iossarian  Jan 22, 2015 8:51:54am

Seriously, if anyone out there is dumb enough to believe that President Mittens has any intention of “fixing poverty” they’re beyond help. If I was the interviewer I think I’d burst into laughter at that point.

285 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:52:27am

re: #281 Skip Intro

One of Hillary’s problems is she doesn’t generate much excitement among younger (or older) voters. Obama did, and so did Bill Clinton. She’s going to be 2016’s Al Gore, except with a whole lot more hate sent her way.

The GOP is going to go with the tried and true 24/7 message of hate and fear to get their votes out. I’m not sure what the Dems will do to get out theirs.

I think she’ll do well with older voters but it’s definitely a legitimate point about her and younger voters. She really doesn’t excite me at all. And the idea of 2016 being another Bush-Clinton election agh recipe for apathy. Don’t get me wrong. I’m gonna vote but don’t expect me to be humanistic. I really was turned off big time by her campaign in 2008.

286 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:52:42am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

It hits close to home. My niece is 10 months. I don’t know what I would do if I found out someone did something like that to here. I’m not a violent guy I swear but.

Did you read the article? They were babysitting a friend’s child.

It’s the people you think you know …

287 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 8:53:23am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

Just remember…do it alone and don’t tell anyone where the evidence is. ;-)

288 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:53:30am

re: #284 iossarian

Seriously, if anyone out there is dumb enough to believe that President Mittens has any intention of “fixing poverty” they’re beyond help. If I was the interviewer I think I’d burst into laughter at that point.

Yeah I would have had a hard time not laughing because Mitt has never shown that he cares about anyone not as well off as he is in both personality and his policies.

289 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:53:50am

re: #286 FemNaziBitch

Did you read the article? They were babysitting a friend’s child.

It’s the people you think you know …

I couldn’t. But damn.

290 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 8:54:00am

I knew girls/women tended to be better at shooting sports, but damn …

291 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 8:55:59am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

Yeah I would have had a hard time not laughing because Mitt has never shown that he cares about anyone not as well off as he is in both personality and his policies.

We already heard Romney’s solution last time around. Borrow $20,000 from your parents and start a business while living on the dividends from the stock portfolio they gave you.

292 Sionainn  Jan 22, 2015 8:56:20am

re: #285 HappyWarrior

I think she’ll do well with older voters but it’s definitely a legitimate point about her and younger voters. She really doesn’t excite me at all. And the idea of 2016 being another Bush-Clinton election agh recipe for apathy. Don’t get me wrong. I’m gonna vote but don’t expect me to be humanistic. I really was turned off big time by her campaign in 2008.

I am not excited about Hillary at all. She carries way too much baggage from when her husband was president. I’d hold my nose and vote for her if I had to, but I really don’t want to have to do that. I hope the Democrats can come up with someone more exciting than her, someone who is going to get the people to the polls.

293 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 8:56:25am

re: #286 FemNaziBitch

Did you read the article? They were babysitting a friend’s child.

It’s the people you think you know …

ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE LIKE THIS!!!!!!
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294 iossarian  Jan 22, 2015 8:57:52am

I have this silly daydream/fantasy where I become a journalist, play by the rules for a few years, and then land an interview with someone like Romney in which I just laugh in their face when they trot out the whole “I’m serious about helping poor people no really I am” shtick.

At which point I become a minor internet celebrity and start an underground political interview/Japanese game show mashup. Only the strongest survive!

And there you have it. A little peek into my strange inner life.

295 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 22, 2015 8:58:05am

re: #276 No Country For Old Haters

Yep. Republicans are doomed by modern media, because whatever crazy nonsense they say to keep their wingnut base happy doesn’t go away when they try to win the general election.

I wouldn’t be too sure this time around. We can’t be the only ones who’ve noticed that completely pandering to the base to win early primaries poisons the waters for the General Election. We also can’t be the only ones who’ve noticed that the winners of the early Republican primaries never gained sufficient momentum to carry them through. As a last resort, either Bush or Romney could simply pick up enough primary wins to get the nomination at a brokered convention.

296 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:58:15am

re: #292 Sionainn

I am not excited about Hillary at all. She carries way too much baggage from when her husband was president. I’d hold my nose and vote for her if I had to, but I really don’t want to have to do that. I hope the Democrats can come up with someone more exciting than her, someone who is going to get the people to the polls.

Yes, this.

297 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 8:58:17am

re: #268 FemNaziBitch

There are still some crimes I think justify the death penalty. This is one of them.

298 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 8:58:52am

re: #291 Skip Intro

We already heard Romney’s solution last time around. Borrow $20,000 from your parents and start a business while living on the dividends from the stock portfolio they gave you.

God, I remember that. So out of touch he is.

299 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 8:59:25am

[facepalm]

300 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 9:00:14am

Did Mitt decide that he cared about poverty before or after he thought joking about liking to fire people was the ultimate witty thing?

301 iossarian  Jan 22, 2015 9:00:50am

re: #299 lawhawk

[facepalm]

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There have been more Google Doodles than Presidents!

302 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 9:00:55am

re: #295 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I wouldn’t be too sure this time around. We can’t be the only ones who’ve noticed that completely pandering to the base to win early primaries poisons the waters for the General Election. We also can’t be the only ones who’ve noticed that the winners of the early Republican primaries never gained sufficient momentum to carry them through. As a last resort, either Bush or Romney could simply pick up enough primary wins to get the nomination at a brokered convention.

THATZ BECUZ THEY WERNT CONSERVATIVE ENUF!!!11!

303 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 9:01:04am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

And I forgot about that. See why I need access to a supercomputer?

304 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 9:02:18am

re: #299 lawhawk

[facepalm]

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True fact: Vince Lombardi wore a powdered cheese wig to the first White House visit by a Super Bowl winner when the Packers visited John Adams.

305 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 9:03:13am

re: #297 Skip Intro

There are still some crimes I think justify the death penalty. This is one of them.

Hubby and I discuss this often (we’re big watchers of Investigation Discovery, or The Murder Shows as we call them) and the problem with that is that we’d have more dead kids. A no win situation.

On this I like old world retribution. Let the community mete out justice…baseball bat style.

306 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 9:03:16am

re: #303 Skip Intro

And I forgot about that. See why I need access to a supercomputer?

Heh it was hard to forget for me because even if it was joking, what kind of shit head thinks that’s funny especially given Bain’s rep of taking people’s jobs.

307 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:03:27am

re: #292 Sionainn

I am not excited about Hillary at all. She carries way too much baggage from when her husband was president. I’d hold my nose and vote for her if I had to, but I really don’t want to have to do that. I hope the Democrats can come up with someone more exciting than her, someone who is going to get the people to the polls.

I’m 50 and I can’t remember that baggage. I don’t care about it. It’s been 20 years and I think we are finally ready for Hillary. We weren’t then and that was a big part of the baggage.

308 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:03:37am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE LIKE THIS!!!!!!
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I know, right?

309 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 9:04:08am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

Did Mitt decide that he cared about poverty before or after he thought joking about liking to fire people was the ultimate witty thing?

He filed it in his binders full of wimmens…and just found it.

310 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:04:15am

re: #294 iossarian

I have this silly daydream/fantasy where I become a journalist, play by the rules for a few years, and then land an interview with someone like Romney in which I just laugh in their face when they trot out the whole “I’m serious about helping poor people no really I am” shtick.

At which point I become a minor internet celebrity and start an underground political interview/Japanese game show mashup. Only the strongest survive!

And there you have it. A little peek into my strange inner life.

You’d be better off writing pulp fiction —with a journalist as the protagonist.

311 De Kolta Chair  Jan 22, 2015 9:04:31am

re: #299 lawhawk

[facepalm]

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Little know political fact: President Vince Lombardi served two non-consecutive terms.

312 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 9:04:41am
313 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 22, 2015 9:05:05am

re: #277 FemNaziBitch

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Always wondered how the fascist right would justify disarming the nation. “It’s for the children!!11ty!”

314 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:05:43am

re: #297 Skip Intro

There are still some crimes I think justify the death penalty. This is one of them.

Well, I think it shows why such crimes need to be Federal Felonies.

The Supreme Court ruled that child rape is not a capital offense (I can’t remember when).

Most rapists are serial rapists.

315 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 22, 2015 9:07:52am

re: #292 Sionainn

I am not excited about Hillary at all. She carries way too much baggage from when her husband was president. I’d hold my nose and vote for her if I had to, but I really don’t want to have to do that. I hope the Democrats can come up with someone more exciting than her, someone who is going to get the people to the polls.

” I’d hold my nose and vote for her if I had to, but I really don’t want to have to do that.” Think about that for a few seconds. I consider most of the commentariat here to be dedicated Democrats. If we’re talking about having to hold our noses to vote for Clinton then how can we reasonably expect the public at large to be enthusiastic about her? Me? I won’t vote for her no matter which of Satan’s little helpers gets the Republican nomination. IMHO, we aren’t going to get better Democrats by voting for shitty ones.

316 freetoken  Jan 22, 2015 9:08:00am

re: #312 lawhawk

Next up: Exposition on how humans and dinosaurs lived together.

317 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 9:08:18am

re: #294 iossarian

I have this silly daydream/fantasy where I become a journalist, play by the rules for a few years, and then land an interview with someone like Romney in which I just laugh in their face when they trot out the whole “I’m serious about helping poor people no really I am” shtick.

At which point I become a minor internet celebrity and start an underground political interview/Japanese game show mashup. Only the strongest survive!

And there you have it. A little peek into my strange inner life.

Do you know what it takes to become a Journalist?

A Twitter account!

318 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 9:08:22am

re: #307 FemNaziBitch

I’m 50 and I can’t remember that baggage. I don’t care about it. It’s been 20 years and I think we are finally ready for Hillary. We weren’t then and that was a big part of the baggage.

Don’t worry. Fox News, talk radio, and the RW innertubes will be happy to remind you.

319 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:08:52am

ersre: #313 William Barnett-Lewis

Always wondered how the fascist right would justify disarming the nation. “It’s for the children!!11ty!”

AT least we finally have a right-to-lifer who get’s it.

I just want domestic abusers and those served with Orders of Protection to be disarmed.

In other words (worn out meme) I want the laws we have on the books to be vigorously and evenly enforced.

I’d like to see the gun nuts push for this as well instead of just giving it lip service.

320 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:11:44am

7 Big Lies ‘American Sniper’ Is Telling America

7. Chris Kyle’s Family Claimed He Donated His Book Proceeds To Veterans’ Charity, But He Kept Most Of The Profits: The National Review debunks the claim that all proceeds of his book went to veterans’ charities. Around 2 percent - $52,000 - went to the charities while the Kyles pocketed $3 million.

321 b_sharp  Jan 22, 2015 9:12:29am

re: #316 freetoken

Next up: Exposition on how humans and dinosaurs lived together.

It was a troubled union, with both set of parents violently opposed, but through hard work and many trips to a councillor they were able to work out a satisfactory if not happy relationship.

322 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 9:13:39am

McCain was born and lived through the Great Depression. He lived through WWII, Korea, the Cold War, Vietnam, the Cuban Missile Crisis, Bay of Pigs, OPEC boycott, and still thinks we’re probably living in most serious period of turmoil?

How’s that ahistorical revisionism working for you?

323 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 9:15:10am

re: #322 lawhawk

324 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 9:17:26am

re: #323 WhatEVs

We should start a pool on when the first missiles are fired by us at Iran.

325 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:18:03am

VOCUBULARY WORD OF THE DAY:

homunculus

PRONUNCIATION:
(huh-MUHNG-kyuh-luhs, HO-)

MEANING:
noun:
1. A diminutive human being.
2. A fully formed, miniature human being that was earlier believed to be present in a sperm or an egg.
3. WHAT WHACKOS BELIEVE A FERTILIZED HUMAN EGG to be.

ETYMOLOGY:
From Latin homunculus (little man), diminutive of ho-mo* (man). Ultimately from the Indo-European root dhghem- (earth), which also gave us allochthonous, autochthonous, chameleonic, chthonic, disinter, and inhume. Earliest documented use: 1656.

I added a bit …

326 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 9:18:25am

re: #324 Skip Intro

We should start a pool on when the first missiles are fired by us at Iran.

McCain has been humping that dog for years now.

327 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jan 22, 2015 9:19:27am

re: #315 Higgs Boson’s Mate

” I’d hold my nose and vote for her if I had to, but I really don’t want to have to do that.” Think about that for a few seconds. I consider most of the commentariat here to be dedicated Democrats. If we’re talking about having to hold our noses to vote for Clinton then how can we reasonably expect the public at large to be enthusiastic about her? Me? I won’t vote for her no matter which of Satan’s little helpers gets the Republican nomination. IMHO, we aren’t going to get better Democrats by voting for shitty ones.

Planning to cut off our nose to spite our face, are we?

328 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 9:21:03am
329 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 9:21:36am

re: #326 WhatEVs

McCain has been humping that dog for years now.

So has Graham. Limbaugh has been doing it for decades (remember Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran?).

330 Jenner7  Jan 22, 2015 9:22:18am

Correct me if I’m wrong, but when we elect a new President, Republicans will still have majority, right? So, we could have a Republican President and a Republican majority. Right?

331 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 9:23:15am

re: #330 Jenner7

Correct me if I’m wrong, but when we elect a new President, Republicans will still have majority, right? So, we could have a Republican President and a Republican majority. Right?

There will also be congressional elections in 2016…but it is likely that the GOP will keep its majority at least in the House.

332 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 9:23:21am

re: #330 Jenner7

Correct me if I’m wrong, but when we elect a new President, Republicans will still have majority, right? So, we could have a Republican President and a Republican majority. Right?

If that happens, the bombs will start falling on Iran by spring of 2016.

333 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 22, 2015 9:24:07am

Now all Chuck needs is a job.

…

334 nearly-headless smith25  Jan 22, 2015 9:24:35am

re: #330 Jenner7

Correct me if I’m wrong, but when we elect a new President, Republicans will still have majority, right? So, we could have a Republican President and a Republican majority. Right?

Due to Gerrymandering, the Republicans are almost guaranteed to hold on to the House after the 2016 Elections. The Senate is another thing. Republicans must defend more seats in 16, so the map may give the Democratic party a bit of hope to retake the Senate majority.

335 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:25:51am

Cuteness for the Day.

336 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 9:26:04am

re: #329 Skip Intro

So has Graham. Limbaugh has been doing it for decades (remember Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran?).

I do indeed. So damn funny to joke about bombing another country. I mean really, it’s a laugh riot.

337 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 9:27:00am

One of the brave lady Republicans who was for the GOP anti-abortion bill, then against it, but voted for it anyway.

US Rep. Renee Ellmers wavers, then says she will support abortion bill

newsobserver.com

338 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 9:29:07am

re: #333 GlutenFreeJesus

Now all Chuck needs is a job.

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Video

That’s funny.

339 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:30:02am
It’s

not so bad In My Part of the World (IMPOW).

YOU?

340 Jenner7  Jan 22, 2015 9:30:05am

Well, then, I will vote for whomever wins the Dem primary. Call it what you will, but I will fight tooth and nail to prevent a Republican President and I hope my fellow Dems do the same. With where the Republican party is today, we Dems need to fall in line.

With that said, I hope it’s Clinton. Mainly because I don’t think anyone else could win. But, I do like her and I think she can win IF we get out and vote.

Okay, hope I’m making sense. I’m sure I’m in the minority here. Going to run errands. Have a good day all!

341 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 22, 2015 9:30:08am

Again, Those “bread bags” must have been expensive ones:

Family of Sen. Joni Ernst received 460k+ in fed aid.

342 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 22, 2015 9:30:15am

re: #337 Skip Intro

More of them will fold. Unfortunately.

343 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:30:47am
344 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2015 9:31:01am

he’s still at it:

345 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 9:32:10am

re: #340 Jenner7

Well, then, I will vote for whomever wins the Dem primary.

I cannot imagine the GOP nominating anyone I could vote for.

That said, I hope that Hilary is not the Democratic candidate. Things will get so ugly out there that I will have to give up my favorite pastime, namely following politics.

346 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 22, 2015 9:32:14am

re: #327 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Planning to cut off our nose to spite our face, are we?

Not at all and it’s facile of you to suggest that I am. I’ve voted straight Democratic for more than forty years because I believed that our candidates were worth voting for. To me, Clinton is not worth voting for and to me she’s barely a Democrat.

347 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 22, 2015 9:32:53am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s still at it:

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Can I offer a bounty for finding any of the alleged functioning brain cells in UpChuck’s head?

348 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 9:33:27am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s still at it:

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Someone earlier in this thread suggested spamming him with fake names and photos, wanted to know if doing do would break Teh Twitters.

349 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 9:33:47am

re: #343 FemNaziBitch

@milesjreed is definitely someone to follow. His is always one of my favorite timelines.

350 Mattand  Jan 22, 2015 9:34:45am

re: #348 The Vicious Babushka

Someone earlier in this thread suggested spamming him with fake names and photos, wanted to know if doing do would break Teh Twitters.

Is it worth it to flag this shit to Twitter? I sorta know what the answer is, I guess, but what this guy is doing is beyond revolting.

351 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 9:35:00am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s still at it:

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Has UpChuck ever actually paid up a doxxer? Does he do it in bitcoins?

352 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 22, 2015 9:35:02am

re: #348 The Vicious Babushka

Someone earlier in this thread suggested spamming him with fake names and photos, wanted to know if doing do would break Teh Twitters.

That already happened to him recently when somebody bought thousands of fake followers for him and he ended up locking his account briefly a couple of times.

353 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jan 22, 2015 9:35:12am

re: #346 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Not at all and it’s facile of you to suggest that I am. I’ve voted straight Democratic for more than forty years because I believed that our candidates were worth voting for. To me, Clinton is not worth voting for and to me she’s barely a Democrat.

Barely a Democrat is better than absolutely a Republican.

As far as I’m concerned, the attitude you are expressing is part of the reason we got GWB in 2000 instead of Al Gore.

Is that facile enough for you?

354 Charles Johnson  Jan 22, 2015 9:35:36am
355 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 9:37:06am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s still at it:

Any luck finding the name of the alleged rape victim at Duke? The bounty is now $350.

Or, 1.75 Gotnewses.

356 Charles Johnson  Jan 22, 2015 9:38:47am

Twitter has made it a lot easier to report people like Chuck lately. Who knows if they’ll do anything, but it no longer takes a half hour to fill out a complicated form, and you can report tweets that aren’t addressed to you now.

357 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 9:38:49am

re: #353 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Barely a Democrat is better than absolutely a Republican.

As far as I’m concerned, the attitude you are expressing is part of the reason we got GWB in 2000 instead of Al Gore.

Is that facile enough for you?

I understand your point but at the same time, I think Gore deserves some of the blame there too. You need to give people a reason to want to vote for you. Gore ran away from Clinton even though the economy was booming in 2000 and while the American people didn’t think too much of Clinton as a person, they did approve of the job he did as president.

358 Mattand  Jan 22, 2015 9:38:54am

re: #354 Charles Johnson

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Well, I did my part. Still blows my mind about how Twitter looks the other way with this shit.

359 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 9:39:38am

re: #353 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Barely a Democrat is better than absolutely a Republican.

As far as I’m concerned, the attitude you are expressing is part of the reason we got GWB in 2000 instead of Al Gore.

Is that facile enough for you?

I just could not bring myself to vote for Gore/Liebermann in 2000.

Just couldn’t.

Nor did I want to toss my vote away to a third-party candidate.

So I choked down my own vomit and voted for GWB, and regretted it the second he took office.

360 #FergusonFireside  Jan 22, 2015 9:41:14am

re: #328 lawhawk

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ka-BOOM

361 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jan 22, 2015 9:41:14am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

I understand your point but at the same time, I think Gore deserves some of the blame there too. You need to give people a reason to want to vote for you. Gore ran away from Clinton even though the economy was booming in 2000 and while the American people didn’t think too much of Clinton as a person, they did approve of the job he did as president.

Not giving Gore a free pass, but he did win the popular vote. And the votes cast for Nader in Florida would have given Gore an unconditional win there - and in the Electoral College.

362 Bubblehead II  Jan 22, 2015 9:41:17am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s still at it:

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So am I.

363 Bubblehead II  Jan 22, 2015 9:42:01am

re: #347 William Barnett-Lewis

Can I offer a bounty for finding any of the alleged functioning brain cells in UpChuck’s head?

That would be a safe bet.

364 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 9:42:50am

re: #359 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I just could not bring myself to vote for Gore/Liebermann in 2000.

Just couldn’t.

Nor did I want to toss my vote away to a third-party candidate.

So I choked down my own vomit and voted for GWB, and regretted it the second he took office.

I voted for Gore/Lieberman. If he had won do you think he would have taken action on climate change or did he not become aware of climate change until after losing the election?

365 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 9:44:04am

re: #347 William Barnett-Lewis

Can I offer a bounty for finding any of the alleged functioning brain cells in UpChuck’s head?

I think that’s like the offer of $10 million bucks for finding bigfoot. You’re pretty safe on ever having to pay out.

366 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:44:11am
We drank beer and while we were kissing, he quickly pulled aside my underwear and was suddenly inside me. I exclaimed, “Hey!” And he whispered, “I can tell you’re not a virgin. I can tell you like it.” I was quiet until it was over.

Yeah, it happens that quick.

to all those who think “well, can’t people just not have sex?”

*ahem*

367 lawhawk  Jan 22, 2015 9:44:36am

re: #356 Charles Johnson

Twitter has made it a lot easier to report people like Chuck lately. Who knows if they’ll do anything, but it no longer takes a half hour to fill out a complicated form, and you can report tweets that aren’t addressed to you now.

It’s still a revolving door suspension though. Unless and until he’s permanently banned for his atrocious violations of the Twitter TOS, this is also on Twitter (which benefits from trolls like CCJ to generate revenue from all the outrage).

368 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 9:46:21am
369 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 9:47:24am

re: #364 The Vicious Babushka

I voted for Gore/Lieberman. If he had won do you think he would have taken action on climate change or did he not become aware of climate change until after losing the election?

For starters, I voted in Arizona, which is always heavily GOP, so it did not matter much on that account, either.

And I could not bring myself to vote for Liebermann nor could I stand the thought of Tipper in the White House. That lady makes me sick.

370 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jan 22, 2015 9:47:58am

re: #364 The Vicious Babushka

I voted for Gore/Lieberman. If he had won do you think he would have taken action on climate change or did he not become aware of climate change until after losing the election?

Gore was an environmentalist from way back. He wrote Earth in the Balance in 1992 before running for VP. I’m not sure, never having read the book, but I believe global warming was one of the environmental topics he covered, along with things like loss of biodiversity, deforestation and ozone depletion.

371 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 9:48:33am

re: #361 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Not giving Gore a free pass, but he did win the popular vote. And the votes cast for Nader in Florida would have given Gore an unconditional win there - and in the Electoral College.

True that.

372 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 9:49:50am

re: #364 The Vicious Babushka

I voted for Gore/Lieberman. If he had won do you think he would have taken action on climate change or did he not become aware of climate change until after losing the election?

Gore was always a big environmentalist but if he wins, I think while he certainly wouldn’t ignore the issue, he wouldn’t have adopted as his pet issue. Not being president allowed him to focus on that.

373 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 9:51:40am

re: #372 HappyWarrior

Gore was always a big environmentalist but if he wins, I think while he certainly wouldn’t ignore the issue, he wouldn’t have adopted as his pet issue. Not being president allowed him to focus on that.

Had he adopted it at all, the blowback would have been even more extreme. As it is, it took nearly 15 years for the GOP to even recognize climate change at all.

374 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 22, 2015 9:53:34am

re:
#344

Any luck finding the name of the alleged rape victim at Duke? The bounty is now $350.

Also, The Establishment is afraid of me, hates me. I’m gonna destroy them. Can someone bring me a sammich?

//

375 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 9:53:56am

re: #374 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#344

Also, The Establishment is afraid of me, hates me. I’m gonna destroy them. Can someone bring me a sammich?

//

All he wanted was a Pepsi!!!

376 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:56:17am
377 ObserverArt  Jan 22, 2015 9:56:56am

re: #242 Targetpractice

Of course, there is an alternative to whose who think that removing the welcome mat at the White House while Bibi is in town is a bad move: Just leave town for the length of his visit. Go give speeches, tour hospitals, take photo ops at military bases, or just play a few rounds of golf on the other side of the country. If anybody asks, the President had already planned to be out of town and couldn’t make time to see the Israeli PM.

I was thinking along the same line. I figured he could set up a meeting with representatives from Syria and Iran and hold some preliminary meetings to set up regional peace talks or something.

That would blow both Republican and Benjamin Netanyahu minds.

378 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:57:12am

re: #369 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

For starters, I voted in Arizona, which is always heavily GOP, so it did not matter much on that account, either.

And I could not bring myself to vote for Liebermann nor could I stand the thought of Tipper in the White House. That lady makes me sick.

Tipper (which I can’t even imagine with out saying it like Rosanna Rosanna Danna might) was a big turn-off!

379 Varek Raith  Jan 22, 2015 9:57:13am

What’s it gonna take to permaban CCJ?
FFS.

380 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 9:58:30am

Senator to Hospitals: Stop Suing Poor Patients

381 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 9:59:18am

re: #378 FemNaziBitch

Tipper (which I can’t even imagine with out saying it like Rosanna Rosanna Danna might) was a big turn-off!

A big turnoff to younger voters too. I don’t think Tipper is a bad person but her involvement with music censorship was crap.

382 Charles Johnson  Jan 22, 2015 10:00:21am
383 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 10:00:51am
384 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 22, 2015 10:02:23am

re: #379 Varek Raith

What’s it gonna take to permaban CCJ?
FFS.

About the same as for me to start dating Kim Kardashian. A cosmic alignment of unprecedented magnitude.

RBS

385 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 10:02:23am

re: #380 FemNaziBitch

Senator to Hospitals: Stop Suing Poor Patients

littlegreenfootballs.com

386 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jan 22, 2015 10:02:30am

re: #378 FemNaziBitch

Tipper (which I can’t even imagine with out saying it like Rosanna Rosanna Danna might) was a big turn-off!

And, to be honest, I found Joe Lieberman an enormous turn-off too, to the point where I threw away my vote on a write-in for, of all people, John McCain. In my defense, this was the old McCain who called people like Jerry Falwell “agents of intolerance” instead of sucking up to them, and hadn’t yet foisted Caribou Barbie on an unsuspecting nation. And I was voting in Massachusetts, where my vote for President had no effect on anything.

However, having seen what happened in 2000, I’m not about to make that sort of mistake again.

387 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:02:32am

re: #382 Charles Johnson

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Including a few I probably grew up with. The local Catholic schools would actually give the kids the day off to protest Roe. I still remember my one friend’s sister bragging about how she taunted an abortion clinic worker. I was too young to really understand the issue but this was the 90’s and I remembered hearing about James Kopp and the many other fanatics who actually killed doctors and it just disgusted me. There was never any desire by these fanatics to actually try to work on the conditions that made women choose to get abortions in the first place- just slut shaming and harassing people doing their jobs at the clinics.

388 Timothy Watson  Jan 22, 2015 10:02:46am

re: #382 Charles Johnson

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And not a soul in the conservative world is worried about disrupting traffic and people’s lives, funny isn’t it?

389 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:03:13am

re: #383 FemNaziBitch

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To which, the people say no shit.

390 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 10:03:24am

I’d page this but RawStory hassles Charles if we link their stuff here.

391 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:03:54am

re: #388 Timothy Watson

And not a soul in the conservative world is worried about disrupting traffic and people’s lives, funny isn’t that it?

They’re not inquiring about the employment status of these protesters either. Only for lefty rallies I suppose.

392 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 10:05:01am

re: #380 FemNaziBitch

Two giant California “non-profits” reach agreement on health coverage for 280,000 Californians.

Non-profit Blue Shield of CA (2013 profits of $171 million) and non-profit medical provider Sutter (2013 profits of $300 million) reach agreement.

The term “non-profit” certainly has considerable elasticity here.

sfgate.com

393 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:05:04am

re: #390 The Vicious Babushka

I’d page this but RawStory hassles Charles if we link their stuff here.

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So not only is he a bigot, he’s also an idiot.

394 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 10:05:53am

re: #382 Charles Johnson

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Breed ‘um, but don’t expect help from me to feed ‘um.

395 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 10:06:39am

re: #382 Charles Johnson

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396 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 10:06:57am

re: #385 WhatEVs

littlegreenfootballs.com

ah!

397 ObserverArt  Jan 22, 2015 10:07:03am

re: #290 FemNaziBitch

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I knew girls/women tended to be better at shooting sports, but damn …

I love fresh water yellow perch. And that sure is one huge perch. Damn. must have grown up thinking it was a Walleye! (Same fish family)

398 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 10:07:27am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

A big turnoff to younger voters too. I don’t think Tipper is a bad person but her involvement with music censorship was crap.

She’d have been a breath of fresh air compared to Romney’s Queen Ann.

399 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 10:08:47am

re: #398 Skip Intro

She’d have been a breath of fresh air compared to Romney’s Queen Ann.

There’s definitely that. I cannot imagine That Woman as FLOTUS. She is already insufferable enough now.

400 Varek Raith  Jan 22, 2015 10:08:55am

re: #390 The Vicious Babushka

I’d page this but RawStory hassles Charles if we link their stuff here.

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They do?
My bad.
:/

401 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:09:58am

re: #398 Skip Intro

She’d have been a breath of fresh air compared to Romney’s Queen Ann.

Damning with faint praise. I don’t dislike Tipper truthfully but it’s easy to see why Tipper would be unlikable to a younger voter given her involvement in the music censorship of the 80’s. I don’t disagree though. Ann’s much more unlikable since she seems to view that first lady’s position as something she’s entitled to. Never got that vibe from Tipper or really any other prospective first lady in either major party except Ann.

402 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 10:09:58am

re: #396 FemNaziBitch

I am a little frightened that all that came out of Grassley’s mouth. It’s just…weird, and I think I want to see what plays out before I give him a Good On Ya, you know?

403 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 10:11:23am

re: #390 The Vicious Babushka

I’d page this but RawStory hassles Charles if we link their stuff here.

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Career politician Tom McClintock. Spit.

404 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 10:11:45am

Identifying US K-12 Public Schools with Deliberate Sex Segregation

405 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 10:12:08am

re: #402 WhatEVs

I am a little frightened that all that came out of Grassley’s mouth. It’s just…weird, and I think I want to see what plays out before I give him a Good On Ya, you know?

I know.

406 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 10:13:15am

Ugh.

407 WhatEVs  Jan 22, 2015 10:14:50am

re: #404 FemNaziBitch

Identifying US K-12 Public Schools with Deliberate Sex Segregation

WHAT? Wow. Just wow.

408 klystron  Jan 22, 2015 10:17:34am

Once again, I challenge my fellow Lizards to consider what kind of justices for the Supreme Court we would get out of Clinton versus out of the Republican nominee.

If you don’t think Bush did enough damage, feel free to sit out this election.

409 nearly-headless smith25  Jan 22, 2015 10:21:59am

re: #408 klystron

Once again, I challenge my fellow Lizards to consider what kind of justices for the Supreme Court we would get out of Clinton versus out of the Republican nominee.

If you don’t think Bush did enough damage, feel free to sit out this election.

This.

410 ObserverArt  Jan 22, 2015 10:23:07am

re: #307 FemNaziBitch

I’m 50 and I can’t remember that baggage. I don’t care about it. It’s been 20 years and I think we are finally ready for Hillary. We weren’t then and that was a big part of the baggage.

I’m 60 and I remember all baggage of many a politician.

If I have a scale and I put all of Hillary’s baggage on the left weigh plate and then place the baggage of the last 20 years of Republican BS on the right plate, the beam supporting the right weigh plate breaks every damn time.

So, I’ll vote for Hillary because I can not see any Republican that can be a moderate, considerate, realistic human being. I will note vote for Koch Industries and any of the other big money lobbyists that have their hands up the back of the Republican party. Just can’t do it.

And one more thing to add. I think Hillary should be aware by now that her baggage and age are going to be an issue, so take them on directly and then add to it by taking a bunch of Democratic young Rep and Senate candidates along on your campaign stops and say you are working on adding youth to this countries politics for the future. Tell them as a package you are working to rebuild America for now and the next 50 years.

411 allegro  Jan 22, 2015 10:24:23am

Whenever I find myself shuddering at having to cast a vote for Hillary, I stop and think about how much fun Bill is going to be as First Gentleman. Heh.

412 Varek Raith  Jan 22, 2015 10:26:16am

re: #411 allegro

Whenever I find myself shuddering at having to cast a vote for Hillary, I stop and think about how much fun Bill is going to be as First Gentleman. Heh.

…

413 Charles Johnson  Jan 22, 2015 10:27:37am
414 ObserverArt  Jan 22, 2015 10:28:47am

re: #312 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

James Inhofe is a hoax. He keeps passing himself off as a statesmen.

Oh, he has 63 weather casters that can back him up. How many times can his weather casters get the damn daily forecast correct? Yeah, that is what I thought.

415 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 22, 2015 10:28:49am

SO tempted…

416 nearly-headless smith25  Jan 22, 2015 10:29:32am

re: #410 ObserverArt

Much of HRC’s baggage is hung on her for being a female, and a female who didn’t “stay in her place” in the 93 Health Care work.

417 klystron  Jan 22, 2015 10:29:49am

re: #414 ObserverArt

James Inhofe is a hoax. He keeps passing himself off as a statesmen.

Oh, he has 63 weather casters that can back him up. How many times can his weather casters get the damn daily forecast correct? Yeah, that is what I thought.

Oh, but he’s not a scientist…

////

418 Dave In Austin  Jan 22, 2015 10:30:45am

re: #415 GlutenFreeJesus

SO tempted…

Do it. And go hard. The least they can do is boot you.

419 ObserverArt  Jan 22, 2015 10:31:42am

re: #315 Higgs Boson’s Mate

” I’d hold my nose and vote for her if I had to, but I really don’t want to have to do that.” Think about that for a few seconds. I consider most of the commentariat here to be dedicated Democrats. If we’re talking about having to hold our noses to vote for Clinton then how can we reasonably expect the public at large to be enthusiastic about her? Me? I won’t vote for her no matter which of Satan’s little helpers gets the Republican nomination. IMHO, we aren’t going to get better Democrats by voting for shitty ones.

And you’ll get nothing voting for a Republican.

I hope you consider your vote. There is evil and there is pure evil.

420 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:32:29am

addictinginfo.org
Hey GOP, how’s that minority outreach looking for ya? Really a deportable?

421 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 10:33:28am

re: #408 klystron

Once again, I challenge my fellow Lizards to consider what kind of justices for the Supreme Court we would get out of Clinton versus out of the Republican nominee.

If you don’t think Bush did enough damage, feel free to sit out this election.

If the Senate stays GOP we’ll get no SC Justices that the GOP doesn’t want. Still better than with a Repub Pres (maybe), but nothing to get excited about.

422 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:33:35am

re: #408 klystron

Once again, I challenge my fellow Lizards to consider what kind of justices for the Supreme Court we would get out of Clinton versus out of the Republican nominee.

If you don’t think Bush did enough damage, feel free to sit out this election.

Sure and I understand that. I am just not excited about her. I won’t insult you or anyone here by saying she’s no better than the Republicans she’s running against but I just can’t get excited for her.

423 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:34:05am

re: #421 Skip Intro

If the Senate stays GOP we’ll get no SC Justices that the GOP doesn’t want. Still better than with a Repub Pres (maybe), but nothing to get excited about.

I think there’s a possibility the Dems could regain the Senate in 2016.

424 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 10:35:28am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

I won’t vote for a Republican, no matter what. All I want is another option to Hillary.

425 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 10:36:11am

re: #424 Skip Intro

I won’t vote for a Republican, no matter what. All I want is another option to Hillary.

I like Joe Biden.

426 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:36:39am

re: #424 Skip Intro

I won’t vote for a Republican, no matter what. All I want is another option to Hillary.

Right this is my position as well.

427 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 22, 2015 10:37:02am

re:
#413

John Malos METV

Ara Catchatoorian

I didn’t realize times were so hard for wingnut radio/TV people as to have CCJ on.

428 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 10:38:04am

re: #425 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah, he seems to still be alive. Hillary is so busy triangulating her positions all we’re going to know about her is that she isn’t a Republican.

429 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 10:38:19am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

I think there’s a possibility the Dems could regain the Senate in 2016.

wait, you may be surprised by Hillary as a candidate when she isn’t in Bill’s Shadow.

430 Kragar  Jan 22, 2015 10:38:50am

re: #424 Skip Intro

I won’t vote for a Republican, no matter what. All I want is another option to Hillary.

I can’t see myself voting for her in the primary, but if it came down to her versus any Republican in November, there really isn’t any other choice

431 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 10:39:37am

re: #378 FemNaziBitch

Tipper (which I can’t even imagine with out saying it like Rosanna Rosanna Danna might) was a big turn-off!

She and Joe Liebermann were driving forces behind attempts to censor rock and roll content.

432 ObserverArt  Jan 22, 2015 10:40:09am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

I understand your point but at the same time, I think Gore deserves some of the blame there too. You need to give people a reason to want to vote for you. Gore ran away from Clinton even though the economy was booming in 2000 and while the American people didn’t think too much of Clinton as a person, they did approve of the job he did as president.

Hell, I’ll say it.

I’d vote for Hillary over Al Gore today. Gore has done some okay things politically, but he could just be an arrogant ass too. I think Al thought he was smarter than he really was and that came through.

But he still won! ///

433 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 10:40:10am

re: #430 Kragar

Since I live in California, and the primaries are always over before they get here, and because California always votes Dem for Pres, I really have no dog in this race.

434 klystron  Jan 22, 2015 10:40:22am

re: #422 HappyWarrior

Sure and I understand that. I am just not excited about her. I won’t insult you or anyone here by saying she’s no better than the Republicans she’s running against but I just can’t get excited for her.

With all due respect, I think Obama was a bad thing for Democrats in this regard, in that now apparently we need to be “excited” by our candidate.

Obama was the type of candidate that I don’t expect to see again for 20 years, at least. Using him as the standard is not really a good plan. I am all for supporting young up-and-coming new blood in the party but at the end of the day I also support winning. Because we can’t afford more Roberts on the court.

435 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:40:38am

re: #429 FemNaziBitch

wait, you may be surprised by Hillary as a candidate when she isn’t in Bill’s Shadow.

I hope so. I just wasn’t impressed at all by her last campaign.

436 No Country For Old Haters  Jan 22, 2015 10:40:57am

re: #356 Charles Johnson

Twitter has made it a lot easier to report people like Chuck lately. Who knows if they’ll do anything, but it no longer takes a half hour to fill out a complicated form, and you can report tweets that aren’t addressed to you now.

I doubt they’ll do anything. They’ll host a freak show for as long as it gets them clicks. They very rarely do anything to rein in the psychos that use their platform to hurt people. They just pretend to care in an attempt to stop all decent people from abandoning the service. I’d never visit Twitter without ad-block, as I don’t want to support a platform that supports hateful throwbacks.

437 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 10:41:40am

re: #429 FemNaziBitch

If she doesn’t use Bill she’ll be making a huge mistake.

438 Kragar  Jan 22, 2015 10:42:09am

re: #433 Skip Intro

Since I live in California, and the primaries are always over before they get here, and because California always votes Dem for Pres, I really have no dog in this race.

Well sure, there is that…

439 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 10:42:20am

Holding HIllary accountable for the baggage of 20years ago is like calling LGF a Conservative Blog.

Move on people.

440 No Country For Old Haters  Jan 22, 2015 10:43:06am

re: #430 Kragar

I can’t see myself voting for her in the primary, but if it came down to her versus any Republican in November, there really isn’t any other choice

Correct. There’s no chance of the Republicans nominating a good person as long as the party’s base is made up of racists, homophobes, religious extremists, and right-wing lunatics.

441 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 10:43:22am

re: #435 HappyWarrior

I hope so. I just wasn’t impressed at all by her last campaign.

I think this time she’ll actually have the Party backing her 100%. It was never in the cards for her last time around.

442 Skip Intro  Jan 22, 2015 10:43:24am

re: #439 FemNaziBitch

Holding HIllary accountable for the baggage of 20years ago is like calling LGF a Conservative Blog.

Move on people.

We’re not the ones who will be doing it. It’s going to be the members of the “liberal” media who won’t let it go.

443 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 22, 2015 10:43:54am

re: #390 The Vicious Babushka

Keep minimum wage low ‘for minorities’ who aren’t worth more than $7 an hour

We see two conflicting mindsets here: labor as just another cost to be minimized, like staples or toner, and on the other hand, the vaunted Dignity of Hard Work.

And how can work be dignified if it does not allow workers to support their families?

444 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:44:21am

re: #434 klystron

With all due respect, I think Obama was a bad thing for Democrats in this regard, in that now apparently we need to be “excited” by our candidate.

Obama was the type of candidate that I don’t expect to see again for 20 years, at least. Using him as the standard is not really a good plan. I am all for supporting young up-and-coming new blood in the party but at the end of the day I also support winning. Because we can’t afford more Roberts on the court.

I don’t know klys. I just look at successful Democrats like Bill Clinton and the above mentioned Obama and I see that both of them were able to generate enthusiasm. Hillary feels like she’s more in the camp that Gore and Kerry were. I agree that we shouldn’t use Obama as the absolute standard since every election year is a different political climate. I have no problem with voting for Hillary Clinton if she’s the nominee but I really do feel that there could be a better candidate out there. And you’re absolutely right. We can’t afford more Roberts on the court and I will agree with you strongly over anyone who tries to push Hillary as “Repub lite.”

445 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 10:44:35am

bbl

446 klystron  Jan 22, 2015 10:45:28am

re: #444 HappyWarrior

I don’t know klys. I just look at successful Democrats like Bill Clinton and the above mentioned Obama and I see that both of them were able to generate enthusiasm. Hillary feels like she’s more in the camp that Gore and Kerry were. I agree that we shouldn’t use Obama as the absolute standard since every election year is a different political climate. I have no problem with voting for Hillary Clinton if she’s the nominee but I really do feel that there could be a better candidate out there. And you’re absolutely right. We can’t afford more Roberts on the court and I will agree with you strongly over anyone who tries to push Hillary as “Repub lite.”

I figure that Republicans weren’t really thrilled with the first Bush after Reagan, but they still managed to elect him.

447 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:45:59am

re: #441 FemNaziBitch

I think this time she’ll actually have the Party backing her 100%. It was never in the cards for her last time around.

Sure, I’ll give her a chance. I am not refusing to vote for her just so it’s clear but I really think the Democratic Party could benefit from not handing her the nomination on a silver platter so to speak. Her husband and Obama defintiely worked hard for their nominations. I feel she (or anyone who is going to be the party’s standard bearer) should have to work just as.

448 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 10:46:02am

re: #444 HappyWarrior

I don’t know klys. I just look at successful Democrats like Bill Clinton and the above mentioned Obama and I see that both of them were able to generate enthusiasm. Hillary feels like she’s more in the camp that Gore and Kerry were. I agree that we shouldn’t use Obama as the absolute standard since every election year is a different political climate. I have no problem with voting for Hillary Clinton if she’s the nominee but I really do feel that there could be a better candidate out there. And you’re absolutely right. We can’t afford more Roberts on the court and I will agree with you strongly over anyone who tries to push Hillary as “Repub lite.”

Sorry, I haven’t been hearing any non-emotional reasons to vote against Hillary.

Think long and hard about it.

Do you see her as an old woman or a political player?

Clean your glasses and look at Hillary again.

449 De Kolta Chair  Jan 22, 2015 10:46:36am

If Mitt had won

“It’s sad. But it’s not laugh-out-loud sad.”
450 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:46:42am

re: #446 klystron

I figure that Republicans weren’t really thrilled with the first Bush after Reagan, but they still managed to elect him.

True and I don’t think Hillary is unelectable for that matter either. I just want the Dems to have a healthy primary.

451 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 10:47:39am

re: #447 HappyWarrior

Sure, I’ll give her a chance. I am not refusing to vote for her just so it’s clear but I really think the Democratic Party could benefit from not handing her the nomination on a silver platter so to speak. Her husband and Obama defintiely worked hard for their nominations. I feel she (or anyone who is going to be the party’s standard bearer) should have to work just as.

She’s been working for the party since she was in College.

She will continue to work for this country, regardless of whether she wins or not.

And not as a Journalist.

452 FemNaziBitch  Jan 22, 2015 10:47:57am

bbl again

453 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 10:48:01am

re: #443 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Keep minimum wage low ‘for minorities’ who aren’t worth more than $7 an hour

We see two conflicting mindsets here: labor as just another cost to be minimized, like staples or toner, and on the other hand, the vaunted Dignity of Hard Work.

And how can work be dignified if it does not allow workers to support their families?

HURR HURR IF YOU PAY PEOPLE MOAR TO DO BACK BREAKING EXHAUSTING UNSATISFYING MENIAL LABOR THEY WON’T BE MOTIVATED TO FIND A BETTER JOB!!!1!!!!

454 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 22, 2015 10:48:42am

re: #448 FemNaziBitch

Sorry, I haven’t been hearing any non-emotional reasons to vote against Hillary.

Think long and hard about it.

Do you see her as an old woman or a political player?

Clean your glasses and look at Hillary again.

If Hillary was a man she’d be Jeb Bush.

455 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:48:55am

re: #448 FemNaziBitch

Sorry, I haven’t been hearing any non-emotional reasons to vote against Hillary.

Think long and hard about it.

Do you see her as an old woman or a political player?

Clean your glasses and look at Hillary again.

I see her as a legitimate political player but at the same time, I am tired of the Clintons and the Bushes. It’s honestly fatigue. The Obama years are the only two presidential elections in my lifetime that we haven’t had a Bush or Clinton on the ticket. I am not refusing to vote for her in the general, I just want to see if there are other viable options.

456 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 22, 2015 10:49:16am

re: #429 FemNaziBitch

wait, you may be surprised by Hillary as a candidate when she isn’t in Bill’s Shadow.

I think that’s the first time I ever took issue with one of your posts. Hillary Clinton wasn’t in Bill’s shadow when she made her worst mistake of the 2008 campaign. Remember Snipergate, when she was trying to act like a tough guy? Everytime Hillary Clinton had an extended campaign in the run-up to a primary, her numbers went down. She’s the one candidate who can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

457 HappyWarrior  Jan 22, 2015 10:50:21am

re: #454 The Vicious Babushka

If Hillary was a man she’d be Jeb Bush.

I disagree with you there VB, I think she’s got more substance than Bush since she’s actually got something going for her other than her name but Hillary supporters really can’t underestimate that there is legitimate and I frankly feel very understandable Clinton and also Bush fatigue by many in the electorate.

458 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 22, 2015 10:52:02am

re: #446 klystron

I figure that Republicans weren’t really thrilled with the first Bush after Reagan, but they still managed to elect him.

I voted for George Bush in 1988. Try to remember that the alternative was Michael Dukakis. It was a shame what happened to Bush. He wasn’t the man in 1988 that he was in 1980. Sort of like John McCain in 2008 and 2000.

459 iossarian  Jan 22, 2015 10:54:03am

re: #448 FemNaziBitch

Sorry, I haven’t been hearing any non-emotional reasons to vote against Hillary.

Think long and hard about it.

Do you see her as an old woman or a political player?

Clean your glasses and look at Hillary again.

I haven’t been persuaded, over the years, that Hillary has a strong motivation to improve the life chances of the poor, minorities, women, etc. I think she’s more about the kind of fantasy “pragmatic centrism” that tries to marry social liberalism with lightly-regulated capitalism, and which got us into the fucking mess we find ourselves in now.

Anyone with a brain should be voting for her in the general. But it would be nice to have a candidate who actually gets that letting the private sector control large swathes of economic activity leads to a shit deal for 90% of the population.

460 ObserverArt  Jan 22, 2015 10:57:25am

re: #437 Skip Intro

If she doesn’t use Bill she’ll be making a huge mistake.

I think what FemNazi was saying is that Hillary will be running on some issues Bill wouldn’t have touched as a candidate. I expect a lot more women’s issues, education and healthcare from her.

Hillary is not stupid. She will of course use Bill…and she has already indicated she will be using the Obama “get out the vote” community organizer methods to sign up and move voters to vote.

I do think Obama taught her a lot, and her being a Senator and Secretary of State has helped her since ‘08.

And she will not suffer Republican fools. To me she is sharper than all of the GOP idiots announcing. That is why they hope to tear her down before they have to debate her. She will slice and dice a Ted Cruz or a Rand Paul.

461 Jay in Oregon  Jan 24, 2015 9:14:05am

I know conservatives like to rile up and piss liberals off, then use that as “proof” of how despicable we are.

But in CCJ’s case I don’t give a rat’s ass. If he couldn’t use the internet to harass people and make himself feel powerful, he’d be the nobody everyone else knows he is.

For all of the fear and misery he puts forth into the world, any ass-whipping he gets is more than richly deserved. And if his dumbass, trash-talking mouth gets him killed, then his is an obituary that I will read with great satisfaction.


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