Sarah Palin Poses With Another Right Wing “Target Sign” Poster

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Tonight’s Sarah Palin moment features Caribou Barbie obviously approving of a wingnut sign that puts target signs in the Os of Michael Moore’s name.

I’m not Moore’s biggest fan, but hey — shouldn’t Sarah be careful about stuff like this with her blood-stained history of using target signs for political incitement?

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1 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 6:56:36pm

Very tasteful.
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2 prairiefire  Jan 23, 2015 6:57:22pm

Aw, look, she signed it with a great big “Sarah”. As big as her ego.

3 EPR-radar  Jan 23, 2015 6:57:45pm

Sarah Palin has always been about identifying people deemed to be un-American and thus suitable targets for extermination.

She’s a few years ahead of most of her Confederates on the US right with respect to the politics of scapegoating.

4 jaunte  Jan 23, 2015 6:58:32pm

Does this go in the misspelled Tea party signs file or the faux modest self-censorship file?

5 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 23, 2015 7:00:54pm

SP’s already warming up for the Superbowl of grift.

6 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 23, 2015 7:02:10pm

Hey, at least the spelling is decent this time.

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7 dog philosopher  Jan 23, 2015 7:02:43pm

hahaha i didnt say ‘fuck’ see

8 Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2015 7:02:49pm
9 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 23, 2015 7:04:16pm

America, Fuck yeah!

TSA seizes record number of guns in 2014

When packing your carry-on luggage, don’t forget to remove your gun.

Unless you’ve got permission, not remembering could get you in trouble.

The U.S. Transportation Security Administration seized a record 2,212 firearms from carry-on luggage in 2014, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security reported Friday.

That’s more than the TSA has seized in any other year of its existence, and it’s a 22% increase from the 1,813 guns seized in 2013. (The agency actually hit a record 2,000 seizures on December 1, before the year was over.)

That’s an average of six guns per day.

Of those discovered, 83% were loaded.

I’m all in favor of responsible gun use but I fear we’re becoming a nation of violence worshipping fanatics.

10 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 7:04:57pm

re: #2 prairiefire

Aw, look, she signed it with a great big “Sarah”. As big as her ego.

And with an additional FU if her sycophants want to deny her knowledge of said sign.

11 Kragar  Jan 23, 2015 7:06:41pm

I’m sure if you gave her enough chances, Palin could figure out the missing letter, but she would probably give up before that.

12 meteor  Jan 23, 2015 7:06:57pm

So it’s cool to say F now?

13 darthstar  Jan 23, 2015 7:07:34pm

White trash is trashy, film at eleven.

14 PhillyPretzel  Jan 23, 2015 7:08:40pm

re: #13 darthstar

dirty word salad film at 12. /

15 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 7:10:15pm

They’re surveyor’s marks.

16 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar  Jan 23, 2015 7:10:23pm

re: #4 jaunte

Does this go in the misspelled Tea party signs file or the faux modest self-censorship file?

File under “magical thinking that one can use, but technically not use, an obscenity by mis-spelling it”

It’s the folder between

“magical thinking that foreign policy is about projection of strength through shit talking and petty insults”

and

“magical thinking that word count in a sentence means more smarter.”

17 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 23, 2015 7:11:05pm

re: #11 Kragar

I’m sure if you gave her enough chances, Palin could figure out the missing letter, but she would probably give up before that.

“I’d like to buy a vowel, Pat.”

18 Lidane  Jan 23, 2015 7:12:06pm
19 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 7:12:22pm

Seriously, she’s decided that ridicule is worth the money.

20 Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2015 7:12:38pm
21 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 7:12:40pm

Harpwatch: still nothing.

22 nines09  Jan 23, 2015 7:13:08pm

Sarah Palin. 25 pounds of shit in an ounce of personality. She who would be a heart attack away from leading the free world shows class at every opportunity. Grifters have to maintain high profile for maximum grift. Tool. Dull rusted tool. ” DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM???!!!?”
Yes we do.

23 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar  Jan 23, 2015 7:14:36pm

Also, is “ideological burlesque” an accessible concept?

Because it feels descriptive of the current era of low-brow political personalities*.

*I won’t use the word “pundit,” because it tastes like ashes and rue to applyy a word that means learned in its original language for most political commentators.

24 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 7:15:49pm

A PHONE CALL! THEY FOUND MY PHONE NUMBER AGAIN.

“Do you still want this harp?”

….ummm, yes? Please give me my delivery that was due over two hours ago?

25 Charles Johnson  Jan 23, 2015 7:16:36pm
26 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 7:16:57pm

re: #21 klystron

Harpwatch: still nothing.

Tracking #?

27 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 23, 2015 7:17:32pm

re: #24 klystron

A PHONE CALL! THEY FOUND MY PHONE NUMBER AGAIN.

“Do you still want this harp?”

….ummm, yes? Please give me my delivery that was due over two hours ago?

So, you and the the delivery company have come to agreement on the delivery?

Are you saying that you have reached a “HarpAccord”

RBS

28 Snarknado!  Jan 23, 2015 7:18:00pm

re: #24 klystron

A PHONE CALL! THEY FOUND MY PHONE NUMBER AGAIN.

“Do you still want this harp?”

….ummm, yes? Please give me my delivery that was due over two hours ago?

They think you’re going to say, “No it’s past its expiration date, send it back”?

29 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 7:18:05pm

re: #10 #FergusonFireside

And with an additional FU if her sycophants want to deny her knowledge of said sign.

To clarify, her rock star signature on the sign says F U as well.

30 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 7:18:07pm

re: #26 #FergusonFireside

Tracking #?

I have one; it’s been “out for delivery” since noon. My delivery window was between 1 and 5pm.

31 TedStriker  Jan 23, 2015 7:18:50pm

re: #27 RealityBasedSteve

So, you and the the delivery company have come to agreement on the delivery?

Are you saying that you have reached a “HarpAccord”

RBS

*groan*

32 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 7:19:22pm

re: #30 klystron

I have one; it’s been “out for delivery” since noon. My delivery window was between 1 and 5pm.

So the driver has headed off to Palo Alto for some harp lessons, himself?

33 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 7:19:26pm

re: #30 klystron

I have one; it’s been “out for delivery” since noon. My delivery window was between 1 and 5pm.

They will deliver it. Rest.

34 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 7:20:17pm

re: #32 calochortus

So the driver has headed off to Palo Alto for some harp lessons, himself?

Who knows? Although the best spot for lessons is down in the San Jose area.

35 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 7:21:22pm

A TRUCK!

36 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 7:21:31pm

re: #34 klystron

Who knows? Although the best spot for lessons is down in the San Jose area.

Could be. I was just thinking of Gryphon Stringed Instruments.

37 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 23, 2015 7:21:57pm

what do you think gang… think she’s excited?

RBS

38 Zamb  Jan 23, 2015 7:22:20pm

Saying fuck will bring the Lords wrath down upon you. Insinuating someone should be killed, that’s just patriotism.

39 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 7:22:46pm

re: #37 RealityBasedSteve

We’ll wait and see if it is a delivery truck or the neighbor has a new heavy duty pickup.

40 Dark_Falcon  Jan 23, 2015 7:23:16pm

re: #12 meteor

So it’s cool to say F now?

After Michael Moore called the snipers of America’s armed forces ‘cowards’? Yes, its OK to respond to that with “Fuck You!”. That was my response to his DERP, though I didn’t put in the crosshairs of course.

41 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 7:23:18pm

re: #37 RealityBasedSteve

what do you think gang… think she’s excited?

RBS

Hugging overworked truck guy by now I hope.

42 A Cranky One  Jan 23, 2015 7:23:33pm

re: #37 RealityBasedSteve

what do you think gang… think she’s excited?

RBS

After waiting well past the delivery window? I don’t think excited is the word…

43 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 7:25:26pm
44 D_Red  Jan 23, 2015 7:25:30pm

I wonder if Chuckles has ever spoken to a person from Yemen. Christ, that boy is dumb.

45 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 7:26:21pm

re: #43 klystron

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A fragile box…

46 A Cranky One  Jan 23, 2015 7:26:21pm

re: #43 klystron

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The box for the feline overlords and the harp for you! Hooray!

47 goddamnedfrank  Jan 23, 2015 7:28:48pm

re: #45 calochortus

A fragile box…

“Fra-gee-lay.” It must be Italian.

48 jaunte  Jan 23, 2015 7:29:34pm

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

It’s a major prize.

49 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 7:30:30pm

Come on, come on…We want to hear harp music!

50 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 23, 2015 7:30:52pm

re: #44 D_Red

I wonder if Chuckles has ever spoken to a person from Yemen. Christ, that boy is dumb.

His guy in Yemen tells him that it’s on.

51 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 7:31:06pm
52 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 7:32:34pm

re: #51 klystron

I’m waiting for Box #3.

53 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 23, 2015 7:32:53pm

re: #43 klystron

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Tune up and play us some O’Carolan!

54 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 7:33:17pm

re: #52 calochortus

55 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 7:33:40pm

I have to keep checking the unboxing instructions, since they recommend saving the box for packing when moving, if necessary. It’s very well built.

56 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 23, 2015 7:34:03pm

I don’t get this excited opening up stuff I ordered.

RBS

57 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 7:34:08pm

re: #54 klystron

If this doesn’t stop soon, there will be one tiny harp in there…

58 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 7:35:02pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

After Michael Moore called the snipers of America’s armed forces ‘cowards’? Yes, its OK to respond to that with “Fuck You!”. That was my response to his DERP, though I didn’t put in the crosshairs of course.

Those armed forces did not publish a book bragging about their kills. His book is his history. Graphic, hateful, sociopathical.

That is the story, his truth. Not the whitewashed movie.

As we all know…………most men in war are abhorrent to talk about their horrors. (my great uncles in Japan in WW2 - they never talked about their horrors) The ones that do?

In his own words (lost from the film) he is a fucked up killer. Really.

59 retired cynic  Jan 23, 2015 7:37:29pm

re: #58 #FergusonFireside

My father went ashore on Utah. Until he was 90, if the subject came up, he cried. He certainly never talked about killing anything or anyone.

60 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 7:38:49pm

re: #59 retired cynic

My father went ashore on Utah. Until he was 90, if the subject came up, he cried. He certainly never talked about killing anything or anyone.

A regular human. :( XXOO your father.

61 retired cynic  Jan 23, 2015 7:39:20pm

re: #60 #FergusonFireside

Thanks!

62 D_Red  Jan 23, 2015 7:41:16pm

Didn’t Nirvana have a song about one of those boxes?

63 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 7:41:27pm
64 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 7:41:53pm

re: #63 klystron

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Ooooooh! Pretty!

65 A Cranky One  Jan 23, 2015 7:42:01pm

re: #63 klystron

Way cool!

66 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 23, 2015 7:42:15pm

Wow!!!! That is GORGEOUS.

RBS

67 retired cynic  Jan 23, 2015 7:42:54pm

re: #63 klystron

Lovely!

68 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 7:42:58pm

re: #66 RealityBasedSteve

Wow!!!! That is GORGEOUS.

RBS

I will do some more photos later for the woodworking peeps because it is AMAZING but I want to play it some first.

69 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 7:43:08pm

It looks bigger than the box did.

70 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 7:43:29pm

re: #69 calochortus

It looks bigger than the box did.

The box is as tall as me.

71 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 7:44:27pm

re: #63 klystron

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insane. play play play.

72 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 7:44:27pm

re: #70 klystron

The box is as tall as me.

I’m thinking the fact the box was lying on the floor made it look smaller. Or else you inflated the harp a bit after taking it out.

73 Emoprog Refugee  Jan 23, 2015 7:45:10pm

Sister Sarah appears to be “flashing a gang sign,” or what could would be interpreted as one, were her skin a darker shade.
This photo needs to be trotted out the next several times an African American is gunned down by cops and then maligned as “no angel” and therefore deserving of being shot because someone managed to dredge up a photo of him making a peace sign some manner of hand gesture.
Out of all the “flashing a gang sign” photos we’ve seen of killed AAs, how many also had cross hairs?

Klystron, I’m so glad for your harp’s arrival, and thank you for posting photos. You’re greatly improving my mood. :-)

74 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 23, 2015 7:45:29pm

re: #72 calochortus

I’m thinking the fact the box was lying on the floor made it look smaller. Or else you inflated the harp a bit after taking it out.

Have you checked the air pressure?

RBS

75 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 23, 2015 7:47:46pm

re: #63 klystron

Very handsome instrument but, how do you get it under your chin?

76 A Cranky One  Jan 23, 2015 7:47:53pm

Wet harps are easier to play when they’re under-inflated.

77 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 7:49:31pm

re: #74 RealityBasedSteve

Have you checked the air pressure?

RBS

I shouldn’t have brought that up, should I?

78 nines09  Jan 23, 2015 7:54:39pm

re: #63 klystron

Now the tuning begins. Stretch. Pull. Tune. Stretch. Pull. PING!! Oops. Too sharp. Have fun!

79 A Cranky One  Jan 23, 2015 7:55:17pm

I love getting new instruments. It’s interesting how much fun it is to play familiar stuff on a different instrument; how you play changes due to the characteristics, tone, sustain, etc. of the instrument.

At least that’s how I justified each guitar after number 6….;)

80 CleverToad  Jan 23, 2015 7:56:10pm

re: #63 klystron

Beautiful piece of art!

Okay, I can go to bed now. The harp is here and the boxes were just boxes. This place is as addictive as a soap opera, y’know. Glad it’s good stuff tonight.

81 nines09  Jan 23, 2015 7:58:14pm

Old joke. A violin and a cello are the same size. The violinist has a larger head.

* rimshot*

82 PhillyPretzel  Jan 23, 2015 7:58:33pm

re: #63 klystron

Enjoy your harp.

83 A Cranky One  Jan 23, 2015 7:59:32pm

re: #80 CleverToad

Hey, thanks for the advice about getting the quilts appraised. The spouse admitted that many are worth a lot of money and so is reconsidering. She’s had quilts appraised, but always scoffed at the stated value. She said last quilt she had appraised was valued at $10k, but she couldn’t see anyone paying that so discounted the appraisal. But she hadn’t thought about insurance, and we have several dozen around the house.

Thanks again.

84 prairiefire  Jan 23, 2015 8:01:20pm

re: #70 klystron

Lovely! Did you know Austin Blue’s wife is a harpist?

85 A Cranky One  Jan 23, 2015 8:02:08pm

Since Klystron isn’t streaming audio of her harp playing, I present HARPO:

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86 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 23, 2015 8:02:11pm

As a gamer, this is, unsurprisingly, one of my favourite harp driven pieces:

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87 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 8:03:21pm

re: #84 prairiefire

Lovely! Did you know Austin Blue’s wife is a harpist?

Yep. He and I have exchanged harp discussion a few times.

As a special treat for the Lizards I recorded a very brief bit on the new harp. Please excuse my rusty fingers, with the added bonus of the spacing on this harp is different than my other normal practice instruments.

It is processing onto Youtube now.

88 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar  Jan 23, 2015 8:05:29pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

After Michael Moore called the snipers of America’s armed forces ‘cowards’? Yes, its OK to respond to that with “Fuck You!”. That was my response to his DERP, though I didn’t put in the crosshairs of course.

Nope.

I think Michael Moore is a moron in general and extra fucking moronic this time around, but for not one fucking second will I sign on with right wing fuckwits cursing him out.

Because I’ve watched thirteen years, three months of wingnuts fetishizing the US soldier in the abstract while treating the individual GI like absolute shit. And this is just another iteration of that corpse-fucking instinct. Instead of the featureless, generic dead soldier-concept they usually trade in, the wingnuts have decide this was the incarnation of their thoughts on war-fighting…and it is just as fucking cynical and self-serving as Moore’s stupidity.

Chris Kyle was a complicated and, frankly, difficult, person. His autobiography testifies to that. Yet even as they’re praising him, wingnuts are re-framing him as yet another bundle of bland tropes on to which they project their virtues. They’re using him even as they’re erasing him, so it is 100% horseshit when they get indignant in his name…except it’s not really in his name, it’s in the cause of the smoothed-edges movie version of him, that they’re going to further process down to an easily-digestable slurry consisting of jingoism and a cocky sense that his skill with a rifle somehow bestows the rest of ‘Murica with borrowed glory.

And it’s shit because it’s specifically used to beat up any veteran that doesn’t fit their soldier concept, to the point that they invent “scandals” such that liberals who served—and decorated—are frauds and traitorous. It’s shit because it’s indignation from people who pooh-poohed issues about stress and trauma until they became blindly, unavoidable service-wide problem. It’s shit because if you crack open their ethos, they still think there’s a correct, manly way of coping with the stress of war and killing, and only pussies feel guilt for killing “the bad guys”…ignoring the second-order “it’s shit”-ness of their clear sense that everybody brown and dead must have been a bad guy.

So no, I’m not going to stand and watch while they jack their indignation-boner in a public place and pretend like it’s mourning.

Necrophiles are not honouring the departed.

89 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 23, 2015 8:07:22pm

re: #63 klystron

It’s beautiful! That top part. Is that bent or cut to shape?

90 HypnoToad  Jan 23, 2015 8:07:24pm

So much for the triple shadow transit on Jupiter tonight. The atmospheric seeing here in SoCal is horrible. The planet looks like a time lapse of an amoeba crawling around. I’ll have to wait for the next one in 2040.

91 Eventual Carrion  Jan 23, 2015 8:07:56pm

re: #79 A Cranky One

I love getting new instruments. It’s interesting how much fun it is to play familiar stuff on a different instrument; how you play changes due to the characteristics, tone, sustain, etc. of the instrument.

At least that’s how I justified each guitar after number 6….;)

I know what you mean. I have 4, and that had been good for a little while now. But a friend is thinking of selling a Harmony he has and I may just pick it up from him. But I will still be below 6 (but I do have a sax and trumpet so that would put me over 6 instruments).

92 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 8:08:27pm

re: #89 Rightwingconspirator

It’s beautiful! That top part. Is that bent or cut to shape?

The top bit may be cut to shape, and piano block. For strength.

The box is the big part. This harp. So gorgeous. The tone.

93 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 8:09:39pm

I brought it into the office with me. I don’t trust the cats.

94 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 23, 2015 8:09:40pm

re: #92 klystron

The top bit may be cut to shape, and piano block. For strength.

The box is the big part. This harp. So gorgeous. The tone.

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Drool.

Lots of pennies spent on that beauty.

95 A Cranky One  Jan 23, 2015 8:10:45pm

re: #92 klystron

Truly a beautiful instrument! Wish I could hear it directly instead of on crappy speakers which won’t do it justice.

96 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 8:11:39pm

re: #95 A Cranky One

Truly a beautiful instrument! Wish I could hear it directly instead of on crappy speakers which won’t do it justice.

It’s true. The microphone on my phone isn’t going to do it justice either. :)

I did plan ahead and get the pickup put in.

97 A Cranky One  Jan 23, 2015 8:13:08pm

re: #96 klystron

I’m just wondering who is happier it got delivered, you or the husband…;)

98 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 8:13:31pm

re: #97 A Cranky One

I’m just wondering who is happier it got delivered, you or the husband…;)

Oh crap, you just reminded me I need to go move my car back. I moved it earlier so it wouldn’t be in the way of the delivery guy.

99 Dark_Falcon  Jan 23, 2015 8:14:55pm

re: #58 #FergusonFireside

But Moore went after all snipers, not against Chris Kyle specifically. Had he confined his statements properly he might have had a case, but instead he chose to drop a DERP-bomb.

100 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 8:16:56pm

Here it is, fumble fingers me and all. It’s an excerpt from a piece by Sharon Thormahlen, the wife of the gentleman who built the harp, called The Last Goodbye, I think.

No picture, because you all don’t need to see me, just listen. :)

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101 Dark_Falcon  Jan 23, 2015 8:17:43pm

re: #88 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar

Then just side with me: I posted a “Fuck You, Michael Moore!” message here on LGF as soon as I read his spew, well before Sarah Palin posed with that sign. So you don’t have to be with a wingnut to slam the Moore-on, as you’ve got a sane conservative to side with in me.

102 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 23, 2015 8:19:24pm

re: #63 klystron

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Should have put up a picture of some odd electronic weapon and posted, “Oh no they delivered HAARP by accident! Revenge on my enemies!”

103 A Cranky One  Jan 23, 2015 8:20:11pm

re: #100 klystron

Wow, even with crappy speakers the tone and sustain sound great. Got to be difficult to get that kind of sustain without any sound box. Wish I could hear the harmonics.

Many thanks for keeping us up to date with the pics and especially for letting us hear it!

Enjoy!

104 CleverToad  Jan 23, 2015 8:21:13pm

re: #83 A Cranky One

Yer welcome!

$10K isn’t out of range, esp. for hand-pieced work, more if it’s hand-quilted at 9+ stitches per inch. And if it’s appraised at $10K and someone is ‘only’ offering $5K, that’s still a chunk of change!

You get the appraisals for insurance, as well as to value your work. You give the appraisal to the recipient so they know the insurance value, though the true value in time and love is priceless.

And then you warn them to never, ever ever put the work of art on a wall or bed in frequent direct sunlight where the sunshined parts are going to fade… (Don’t ask how many times I’ve heard that from my little old quilter.)

okay, now i really am signing out.

105 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 8:21:40pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

But Moore went after all snipers, not against Chris Kyle specifically. Had he confined his statements properly he might have had a case, but instead he chose to drop a DERP-bomb.

Ya’ll, if Michael Moore found the teleportation theory you’d fuck him on it.

106 retired cynic  Jan 23, 2015 8:22:04pm

re: #100 klystron

When I was in the School of Music, working toward my music teaching cert, we had to take every single instrument, but they skipped the harp. So I admire you greatly! It does have a lovely tone!

107 prairiefire  Jan 23, 2015 8:22:55pm

Now I feel all soothed.

108 bratwurst  Jan 23, 2015 8:23:24pm

I never have and never would vote for Michael Moore to be Vice President of the United States of America. Just saying.

109 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 23, 2015 8:23:38pm

re: #100 klystron

Here it is, fumble fingers me and all. It’s an excerpt from a piece by Sharon Thormahlen, the wife of the gentleman who built the harp, called The Last Goodbye, I think.

No picture, because you all don’t need to see me, just listen. :)

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Video

Ah. Thank you. Nice piece to listen to before getting ready for work.

I know I won’t get back into harp - just not the way life is going right now. But it does make me think really strongly about an electric guitar. Squire has this package with a Telecaster & amp for a few hundred…

110 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 23, 2015 8:23:43pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

I’m so glad you’re proud of yourself. Everybody loves the snipers who are on their side. Every other sniper, not so much. Moore just had a little more perspective than you did. But you showed him, little internet tough guy.

111 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 8:23:45pm

re: #107 prairiefire

Now I feel all soothed.

Ya. Klys, that was beautiful.

112 Amory Blaine  Jan 23, 2015 8:24:47pm

re: #56 RealityBasedSteve

I don’t get this excited opening up stuff I ordered.

RBS

Uh huh…

113 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 8:25:13pm

re: #100 klystron

Here it is, fumble fingers me and all. It’s an excerpt from a piece by Sharon Thormahlen, the wife of the gentleman who built the harp, called The Last Goodbye, I think.

No picture, because you all don’t need to see me, just listen. :)

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Video

Lovely. Just lovely. Thanks for sharing.

114 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 8:26:43pm

re: #106 retired cynic

When I was in the School of Music, working toward my music teaching cert, we had to take every single instrument, but they skipped the harp. So I admire you greatly! It does have a lovely tone!

I’d wanted to play for a while and every year at the big highland games here in the Bay Area the local folk harp group was out performing and offering the chance to play with their harps and talk to them and three years ago I said fuck it and started lessons.

And now I play with them every year and in two weeks go to the weekend retreat where my new baby will be very, very much admired.

115 calochortus  Jan 23, 2015 8:29:14pm

Now I feel all relaxed, so goodnight, Lizards. Hasta mañana.

116 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 23, 2015 8:30:10pm

Off to earn my bread. Goodness knows, though, that I’m happy you got your package before I had to go. Thank you for sharing the first tune from her.

Enjoy!

117 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 23, 2015 8:35:33pm

Well, I’m off to bed. Probably have one more day at the dive shop helping out with inventory. I’ve decided that rather than get the light I’ve been looking at, (it’s nice, but I’ve got a few already, and they work just fine), I’m taking my credits and getting a “Pony Bottle”.

Basically it’s just a 1/4 sized air tank that I would carry along with my usual one while diving. In the case of an emergency, you SHOULD get air from your dive buddy, but I’ve seen too many cases where buddies get separated, lose track of each other, things like that. I’d much rather be able to have an independent and redundant source of air with me in the case of things going sideways.

It’s a good investment, and unlike the light, it’s something that I hope I don’t have to use, except occasionally to keep in practice with how to use it in an emergency.

Well, night all. What do you all say to pancakes tomorrow for breakfast?

RBS

118 Weet  Jan 23, 2015 8:35:45pm

I have ‘football hate’. Fuck the cheaters.

119 retired cynic  Jan 23, 2015 8:37:42pm

re: #117 RealityBasedSteve

Pancakes work for me. Bacon, too?

120 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 23, 2015 8:38:10pm

re: #119 retired cynic

Pork roll! Yummm

121 CuriousLurker  Jan 23, 2015 8:39:40pm

re: #100 klystron

Here it is, fumble fingers me and all. It’s an excerpt from a piece by Sharon Thormahlen, the wife of the gentleman who built the harp, called The Last Goodbye, I think.

No picture, because you all don’t need to see me, just listen. :)

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Video

Bravo! I was just lurking waiting to hear you play before I call it a night, like the others have done. That was lovely—thank you!

122 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 23, 2015 8:41:38pm

re: #119 retired cynic

Pancakes work for me. Bacon, too?

I’m outta bacon, but I’ve got plenty of a nicely spiced bulk sausage. I’ll make patties.

RBS

123 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 23, 2015 8:42:15pm

And Community Coffee (with Chicory).

RBS

124 A Cranky One  Jan 23, 2015 8:42:24pm

re: #121 CuriousLurker

Bravo! I was just lurking waiting to hear you play before I call it a night, like the others have done. That was lovely—thank you!

Ah, so you were curiously lurking. How appropriate!

125 retired cynic  Jan 23, 2015 8:42:52pm

re: #123 RealityBasedSteve

If I start now, I’ll be there for supper tomorrow night!

126 HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2015 8:43:38pm

Sad to hear about Ernie Banks. Shame. Baseball lost one of its best ambassadors tonight.

127 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 23, 2015 8:43:44pm

re: #125 retired cynic

If I start now, I’ll be there for supper tomorrow night!

I’m also perfectly happy with pancakes for supper. I’ve done that before. :)

RBS

128 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 8:54:02pm

Oh the love of the stumble upon

129 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 8:55:35pm
130 HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2015 8:56:24pm

Palin obviously hasn’t learned a damned thing from the Giffords shooting. She really sees no problem at all with that kind of rhetoric. Right wing psychos like Palin don’t know how to disagree with people reasonably.

131 Amory Blaine  Jan 23, 2015 8:56:42pm

Don’t worry. It’s a pimple.

133 HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2015 9:00:27pm

“Okay role-play, I’m Rush Limbaugh.”

134 Kragar  Jan 23, 2015 9:02:11pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

“Okay role-play, I’m Rush Limbaugh.”

Mine from last night

135 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 9:04:44pm
136 HappyWarrior  Jan 23, 2015 9:06:40pm

re: #135 #FergusonFireside

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President Obama’s critics from the left I think do not give him enough credit for how socially progressive he’s been. No president has done more to progress the conversation on LGBT rights than this president.

137 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 9:07:07pm

Loving this.

138 ObserverArt  Jan 23, 2015 9:07:09pm

re: #92 klystron

The top bit may be cut to shape, and piano block. For strength.

The box is the big part. This harp. So gorgeous. The tone.

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Beautiful instrument.

I love the inlay. What material is that in the inlay, it’s colorful?!

139 BlueSpotinAL  Jan 23, 2015 9:07:38pm

re: #122 RealityBasedSteve

I’m outta bacon, but I’ve got plenty of a nicely spiced bulk sausage. I’ll make patties.

RBS

Get some Conecuh sausage while in Alabama.

140 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 9:08:03pm

re: #137 #FergusonFireside

Loving this.

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This one is actually deep.

141 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 9:10:53pm

oh

142 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 9:11:21pm

Welcome to Lee’s night!

143 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 9:13:58pm

She’s 80 now.

144 #FergusonFireside  Jan 23, 2015 9:28:31pm

nighty

145 goddamnedfrank  Jan 23, 2015 9:30:38pm
146 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 9:31:05pm

re: #138 ObserverArt

Beautiful instrument.

I love the inlay. What material is that in the inlay, it’s colorful?!

I believe it’s abalone.

147 teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2015 9:41:38pm
Popcorn Time!
148 bratwurst  Jan 23, 2015 9:46:15pm

re: #147 teleskiguy

It’s grifting season!

149 goddamnedfrank  Jan 23, 2015 9:51:57pm

When you see someone honestly calling for the death of the President, don’t give them advance warning that you’ve notified the Secret Service m’kay? You want them to have to deal with that shit when the agents show up, not give them time to play nice.

150 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 23, 2015 9:53:41pm

re: #147 teleskiguy

I don’t doubt that Palin is seriously interested. There are going to be a few billion dollars flying around quite soon.

151 klystron  Jan 23, 2015 9:54:37pm

re: #150 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I don’t doubt that Palin is seriously interested. There are going to be a few billion dollars flying around quite soon.

And she is seriously interested in that cash.

152 jaunte  Jan 23, 2015 9:55:39pm

re: #150 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I don’t doubt that Palin is seriously interested. There are going to be a few billion dollars flying around quite soon.

I get a mental picture of her in a glass booth, grabbing at a tornado of twenties.

153 teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2015 10:00:53pm

You watch. In the next two years some congresscritter will call the President a ni’CLANG on the house floor, Terry “Proud Koran Burner” Jones will run for president, open KKK rallies will take place in the deep south…

Harumph!

I’m being too cynical. I think it’s because I didn’t ski today.

154 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 23, 2015 10:01:22pm

re: #152 jaunte

I get a mental picture of her in a glass booth, grabbing at a tornado of twenties.

Or diving into a Scrooge McDuck-type money bin full of them.

155 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 23, 2015 10:04:19pm

re: #153 teleskiguy

Lily Tomlin said, “No matter how cynical I get I can’t keep up.” That describes my regard for American politics since 2000.

156 jaunte  Jan 23, 2015 10:10:05pm
157 BillinGlendaleCA  Jan 23, 2015 10:32:34pm

re: #154 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Remember HBM, we’re talking about Sister Sarah, she doesn’t like hard work. She’ll take the easy grift and quit just like she did as AK governor.

158 Kragar  Jan 23, 2015 10:44:41pm

After many moons, I finally completed my company standard bearer

Hardest part was coming up with a design for the standard. After numerous false starts, I decided to go with the idea they had a company roster as their standard, declaring which troops were currently assigned to the unit for their current deployment.

159 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 23, 2015 10:53:15pm

Warhamster, I presume? //// Nice work on it. I do forget which faction in 40k you play, though.

160 Kragar  Jan 23, 2015 10:56:24pm

re: #159 William Barnett-Lewis

Warhamster, I presume? //// Nice work on it. I do forget which faction in 40k you play, though.

Mostly Imperials now, but still have one Chaos force. I had Nids, Necrons and Tau, but sold them off for the most part.

161 teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2015 11:03:27pm

klys, congratulations on the beautiful harp! Put some recordings up on SoundCloud!

:-D

162 teleskiguy  Jan 23, 2015 11:13:28pm

When I think of harp music I think of ethereal angelic soft tones of the easiest listening stringed goodness, endless serene auditory mellow.

163 Jenner7  Jan 23, 2015 11:54:33pm

Fastest ER visit ever. Husband had bacterial infection in nose (ew). Glad to be home and ready for bed.

Have a good weekend ev’rebody!

164 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 24, 2015 12:01:13am

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

After Michael Moore called the snipers of America’s armed forces ‘cowards’? Yes, its OK to respond to that with “Fuck You!”. That was my response to his DERP, though I didn’t put in the crosshairs of course.

At least you spelled it out completely, unlike these morons, who think the word is obscene enough to censor it, but still use it in a very public context,

165 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 24, 2015 12:02:59am

re: #162 teleskiguy

When I think of harp music I think of ethereal angelic soft tones of the easiest listening stringed goodness, endless serene auditory mellow.

I’m shallow, so I just think of Greensleeves.

166 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 24, 2015 12:35:06am

Here’s an interesting Soviet album Lute Music Of The 16th - 17th Centuries:

…

The interesting thing about it is that it consists mostly of musical hoaxes by the composer Vladimir Vavilov, who wanted his music published so he ascribed the pieces that he himself wrote to various Renaissance composers.

A couple of compositions became pretty well-known in local contexts, like Ave Maria (ascribed to Caccini) and the Golden City (a cult late-Soviet song).

Youtube Video
Youtube Video
Youtube Video

167 goddamnedfrank  Jan 24, 2015 1:01:09am

I’ve got some questions for Montel.

168 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 24, 2015 1:11:47am

Duh. Of course it was malarkey.

But last week, following persistent rumours, Alex, now 16, revealed that the detail in the book was false. “I said I went to heaven because I thought it would get me attention,” he wrote on his own blog.

“I did not die. I did not go to heaven. When I made the claims, I had never read the Bible. People have profited from lies, and continue to. They should read the Bible, which is enough,” Alex wrote.

theguardian.com

169 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 24, 2015 1:15:30am

re: #168 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

omfg

pulpitandpen.org
I believe this is the first time Alex has himself spoken out in such a direct way in his own…except for posting a comment relaying this information on the Alex Malarkey fan page on Facebook, after which the comment was deleted by moderators and he was blocked from the group.

Blocked from his own fan page for telling the truth. :D

170 goddamnedfrank  Jan 24, 2015 1:18:48am

I kind of feel bad for Montel, at first. Then I see that he follows 142K people and realize that’s either really crazy or desperate or both. During the daytime his feed must just be a nonstop unreadable blur.

171 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 24, 2015 1:56:43am

Greetings from Changsha, everyone. I’m on the road, but right now having dinner in my hotel. GotNwes will be updated an once.

172 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 24, 2015 1:58:24am

re: #171 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

“Chinese communists are plotting against Charles C. Johnson, American patriot!”

173 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 24, 2015 2:27:56am

re: #168 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Duh. Of course it was malarkey.

Of course he went to heaven. It’s just that Alex fell under the sway of Ambisexual Satanist Secular Islamic Collectivist Humanists, who pressured him to lie about not going to heaven.

/

174 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 24, 2015 2:36:58am

re: #171 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Greetings from Changsha, everyone. I’m on the road, but right now having dinner in my hotel. GotNwes will be updated an once.

First gonna get down to some Changsha gangsta rap?

175 Bubblehead II  Jan 24, 2015 3:15:52am

re: #56 RealityBasedSteve

I don’t get this excited opening up stuff I ordered.

RBS

Know what you mean. Kinda hard to get excited about a solar charge controller and a 4 to 1 pig-tail.

176 goddamnedfrank  Jan 24, 2015 3:47:24am

In your opinion who’s the most responsible journalist covering the Beltway media right now? This evening I stumbled across some information and have been struggling with an ethical dilemma for the last few hours. If I ignore it, I could well end up in effect condoning real harm, but if it’s not handled and investigated just right, that too could easily result in harm.

Sorry, I have to be deliberately vague about this. Anyway, who would you try to contact if integrity, professionalism and above all empathy were your primary criteria?

177 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 24, 2015 3:58:12am

There is no one I’d trust given your description. The Washington Post isn’t what it was or the NY Times for that matter. Good luck.

178 nkdee  Jan 24, 2015 4:02:48am

re: #4 jaunte

To be fair, had the “K” been included, she couldn’t have signed it. See, she is a “christian”.

179 goddamnedfrank  Jan 24, 2015 4:03:01am

re: #176 goddamnedfrank

By the way, to be clear the story itself doesn’t have a damned thing to do with anything or anyone I’ve posted about or to thus far. Just so there’s no untoward speculation.

180 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 24, 2015 4:05:30am

Christian Science Monitor? They used to be well regarded.

181 freetoken  Jan 24, 2015 4:05:38am

re: #168 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

People have profited from lies, and continue to.

So young, and yet so wise.

182 freetoken  Jan 24, 2015 4:07:59am

The Philadelphia Inquirer used to do some good investigations.

183 freetoken  Jan 24, 2015 4:10:39am

MP3 Audio

184 FemNaziBitch  Jan 24, 2015 4:34:50am
185 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 24, 2015 4:41:50am

..because nothing says Jesus-Fearin’ family values Christian like Fuck You.

186 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 24, 2015 4:43:33am

re: #185 Rocky-in-Connecticut

..because nothing says Jesus-Fearin’ family values Christian like Fuck You.

with gunsights

187 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 24, 2015 4:50:18am

re: #186 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Decked out in full-on camouflage hunting gear, Nugent wielded two machine guns while raging, “Obama, he’s a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary,” he continued. “You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.” Nugent summed up his eloquent speech by screaming “freedom!”

188 sagehen  Jan 24, 2015 4:51:05am

re: #176 goddamnedfrank

In your opinion who’s the most responsible journalist covering the Beltway media right now? This evening I stumbled across some information and have been struggling with an ethical dilemma for the last few hours. If I ignore it, I could well end up in effect condoning real harm, but if it’s not handled and investigated just right, that too could easily result in harm.

Sorry, I have to be deliberately vague about this. Anyway, who would you try to contact if integrity, professionalism and above all empathy were your primary criteria?

Rachel Maddow?

189 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 24, 2015 4:53:21am

As promised, gotnwes.com has got the Yemeni immigration scoop.

The USA is full. No vacancies. Why are we letting 50,000 brown people come here? #YemenCrisis

I’m on winter holiday now, and traveling, so my appearances at LGF will be spotty for the next few weeks. Likewise, gotnwes.com is on holiday mode.

190 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 24, 2015 4:54:04am

re: #187 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

“If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year. Why are you laughing? Do you think that’s funny? That’s not funny at all. I’m serious as a heart attack.”

This is one thing where I would have been glad, had Nuge turned out to be right.

191 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 24, 2015 4:55:54am

re: #189 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Happy Holidays!

;)

192 lawhawk  Jan 24, 2015 4:56:20am

Greets and saluts from the snowy NYC metro area. Got about 6 inches of snow here, and a few towns over they’re reporting 8-9 inches, so it’s a pretty sizable snow - definitely the most we’ve gotten all year, and it’s still less than what Amarillo Texas has gotten. Which is pretty nuts when you think about it.

Not looking forward to shoveling it though, since this is the heavy/wet dense stuff, and not the white fluffy stuff. Still is pretty to look at though, so I might be shooting some photos later.

193 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 24, 2015 5:07:10am

re: #191 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Happy Holidays!

;)

Thanks! I’m heading south to Guangzhou and Shenzhen tomorrow. From there, I’m not sure.

194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 24, 2015 5:07:39am

re: #190 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

This is one thing where I would have been glad, had Nuge turned out to be right.

Not really, then the Right Wing would have a martyr and “Cat Scratch Fever” would become the Arkansas state anthem.

195 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Jan 24, 2015 5:11:24am

From Petapixel:

Domestic worker in Hong Kong wins Human Rights Fellowship to study at NYU. petapixel.com

Xyza Crux Bacani, a 27-year-old Filipina, shoots stark B&W street photos with her Nikon D90. You need to check them out. Petapixel has several, and there’s a link to more at the NY Times Lens Blog.

Another winner is Xiao Muyi, 23, of China. muyixiao.com

196 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 24, 2015 5:20:21am

re: #195 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

From Petapixel:

Domestic worker in Hong Kong wins Human Rights Fellowship to study at NYU. petapixel.com

Xyza Crux Bacani, a 27-year-old Filipina, shoots stark B&W street photos with her Nikon D90. You need to check them out. Petapixel has several, and there’s a link to more at the NY Times Lens Blog.

Another winner is Xiao Muyi, 23, of China. muyixiao.com

Those petapixels don’t match!

197 Varek Raith  Jan 24, 2015 5:24:29am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Heatmaps?
/

198 wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2015 6:01:36am
199 Lancelot Link  Jan 24, 2015 6:08:31am

re: #186 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

with gunsights

Hey, be fair, she may not think of those as gunsights.

200 Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2015 6:18:09am

re: #199 Lancelot Link

Heh. Gunsight imagery was also a motif of the Zodiac Killer, such as below:

201 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 6:18:34am

Good morning Lizards. Philadelphia is drizzly this morning with just some slush from the storm going through - Lawhawk and other points north of here got the snow.

Slow at work so far - waiting for some updating work to complete. Full-bore testing starts in about 50 minutes and will probably take a couple of hours. Only 1900 emails from failed processes in my inbox when I came in. (But expected due to databases going off-line to be transferred — just indications of data transfers to be verified once things come back on-line.)

202 Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2015 6:20:00am

re: #200 Dr Lizardo

Oops. Let’s try that again…..

203 lawhawk  Jan 24, 2015 6:30:42am

Ah, finished the shoveling and snowblowing. And now it’s raining/sleeting, which means it was probably good I did it when I did, because it’ll be that much heavier to shovel away.

204 wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2015 6:31:30am

Smartest thing he’s ever written.

205 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 6:36:43am
January 31, 1931—January 23, 2015
206 Decatur Deb  Jan 24, 2015 6:36:51am

re: #153 teleskiguy

You watch. In the next two years some congresscritter will call the President a ni’CLANG on the house floor, Terry “Proud Koran Burner” Jones will run for president, open KKK rallies will take place in the deep south…

Harumph!

I’m being too cynical. I think it’s because I didn’t ski today.

Open KKK rallies never stopped. They are not very frequent, even here, and poorly-attended. Their efforts have shifted to other media.

207 wrenchwench  Jan 24, 2015 6:40:17am
208 Dark_Falcon  Jan 24, 2015 6:57:49am

re: #198 wrenchwench

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Netanyahu’s visit isn’t disrespectful to America as it is disrespectful to Barack Obama. But that is in large part by design, as is Speaker Boehner having him address the Congress. The bases of both the US Republican Party and the Israeli Likud Party loath Obama and so both parties’ leaders need ways to diss the president.

As for me, I approve of the visit. Republican office holders need to slap at the president in this fashion to both satisfy their voters and to make clear to the president that Congress will not be dictated to. The president’s SOTU made clear he wants confrontation with Congress, so its best Congress make clear that confrontation has real costs to him.

209 freetoken  Jan 24, 2015 6:58:08am

re: #198 wrenchwench

Not to mention disrespectful of the Israeli electorate.

John the Orange and company are fiddling with a candidate in an upcoming election.

210 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 6:59:22am
Relative sizes of various space vessels. (Non-human vessels not shown)
211 darthstar  Jan 24, 2015 7:00:52am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

You approve of the visit? Why doesn’t that surprise me…and your choice of words - ‘need to slap at the president’ - why? Is he being too uppity again?

212 darthstar  Jan 24, 2015 7:01:57am

Downding for implying that the president needs to be put in his place.

213 Skip Intro  Jan 24, 2015 7:04:20am

I always enjoy reading DF’s posts to see what the difference is between a radical right Repub and a moderate one. Not much daylight between them IMO.

214 darthstar  Jan 24, 2015 7:09:46am

re: #213 Skip Intro

I always enjoy reading DF’s posts to see what the difference is between a radical right Repub and a moderate one. Not much daylight between them IMO.

The dog-whistle is slightly softer.

215 Dark_Falcon  Jan 24, 2015 7:11:08am

re: #212 darthstar

Downding for implying that the president needs to be put in his place.

Hell, I’ll just say it:

As I believe the president has exceeded and is exceeding his authority, yes, I do think he needs to be put in his place. Not because he is black, but because his actions are wrong. Congress needs to demonstrate it will stand up to him, and what that standing up does to diplomacy is of secondary concern.

216 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2015 7:12:45am

re: #192 lawhawk

3-5 inches of snow here. Go a few miles west and there isn’t any.

217 Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2015 7:13:13am

218 darthstar  Jan 24, 2015 7:14:13am

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

Hell, I’ll just say it:

As I believe the president has exceeded and is exceeding his authority, yes, I do think he needs to be put in his place. Not because he is black, but because his actions are wrong. Congress needs to demonstrate it will stand up to him, and what that standing up does to diplomacy is of secondary concern.

Please cite one example of President Obama exceeding his authority.

I’ll take my dogs to the beach while you research experts like Chuck C Johnson, Brietbart, and Foxnation.

219 lawhawk  Jan 24, 2015 7:15:08am

The GOP wants to see Netenyahu win reelection because there’s little daylight between them on foreign policy matters (particularly Iran), and because there’s very little love between Obama and Netenyahu personally.

If Hatnuah/Labor wins, then you’re dealing with new Israeli Prime Ministers/Foreign Minister (Issac Herzog and Tzipi Livni, taking turns over the next couple of years). And if Obama has better relations with them, then the whole GOP narrative that Obama is no friend of Israel blows up entirely - not that there was ever much truth to that assertion in the first place.

Despite the lack of cozy relations, Obama has done what Israel needs him to do - backing off on demanding peace talks, imposing US conditions, etc., all while providing Israel space to deal with Hamas, Hizbullah, and other threats to Israeli security. The US continues providing military assistance in deploying Iron Dome and improving Israeli national security as a result.

So, if there’s a disagreement over what talks with Iran might accomplish, that Mossad thinks that Netenyahu might be wrong on his choice of actions, then it shows that Israelis are just as split on matters as many here in the US are.

220 darthstar  Jan 24, 2015 7:15:27am

re: #217 Dave In Austin

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That nomster’s kind of cute.

221 darthstar  Jan 24, 2015 7:16:57am

re: #219 lawhawk

Plus, they really want an Obama war they can run against in 2016. So what if a few thousand US soldiers die…it’s all about the end game.

222 lawhawk  Jan 24, 2015 7:17:45am

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

Exceeding his authority where precisely? On foreign policy matters, his role is exceedingly clear. It’s Congress that is overstepping its bounds by inviting Netanyahu to speak. They’re the ones that want to interfere in Israel’s political landscape to try and secure an outcome that’s beneficial to the GOP (and not necessarily to the US or Israel).

223 darthstar  Jan 24, 2015 7:18:35am
224 Dark_Falcon  Jan 24, 2015 7:20:14am

re: #222 lawhawk

Exceeding his authority where precisely? On foreign policy matters, his role is exceedingly clear. It’s Congress that is overstepping its bounds by inviting Netanyahu to speak. They’re the ones that want to interfere in Israel’s political landscape to try and secure an outcome that’s beneficial to the GOP (and not necessarily to the US or Israel).

On immigration, clearly. And even moreso as it relates to Obamacare.

225 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 7:22:32am

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

Hell, I’ll just say it:

As I believe the president has exceeded and is exceeding his authority, yes, I do think he needs to be put in his place. Not because he is black, but because his actions are wrong. Congress needs to demonstrate it will stand up to him, and what that standing up does to diplomacy is of secondary concern.

Doing it by meddling in foreign policy is Congress stepping well outside their normal bounds - or at a minimum how they decide to do their meddling.

What they are doing is disrespecting the office of the Presidency. And normally the GOP and right wing are practically always in full cry about how people and traditions need to be respected as they always were. (Except, of course, for the black man in the White House.)

And if Congress is reacting to the President being excessive and disrespectful - this is the wrong place and method to do it. I also like how you imply that Obama started it and Congress is just reacting to an attack.

(And after Obama just made a speech with a man sitting behind him who a few years back talked about a GOP goal being to make Obama a 1-term president. Look at the beam in your own party’s eye first D_F. This stuff is weak and makes you look like you’re wearing a huge set of partisan blinders.)

226 lawhawk  Jan 24, 2015 7:24:27am

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

On immigration, not so clearly, since Obama is essentially doing the same exact thing that Reagan, Bush, and Clinton all did in their respective administrations.

The failure of Congress to enact legislation is no excuse; and every time Congress has eventually acted on immigration, it’s been to incorporate the Presidential executive actions - not void them.

On Obamacare, again, the President has the power to act where administratively he can. Republicans so far have only managed to do one thing - and one thing only - and even then not particularly well - and that’s to seek repeal of Obamacare with no alternatives.

But since you mention Obamacare, what specifically about it is somehow exceeding Presidential authority to act?

227 darthstar  Jan 24, 2015 7:25:22am

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

On immigration, clearly. And even moreso as it relates to Obamacare.

Your argument needs more Benghazi…it’s not Fast & Furious enough.

228 Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2015 7:26:05am

re: #227 darthstar

Very Good….

229 darthstar  Jan 24, 2015 7:26:22am

re: #226 lawhawk

But since you mention Obamacare, what specifically about it is somehow exceeding Presidential authority to act?

Passed by both houses of Congress - yet 50+ repeal votes later it’s still got his name on it.

230 bratwurst  Jan 24, 2015 7:27:15am

So will the United States Congress be open for further foreign political campaign events after this? Or just ones that the GOP thinks might embarrass the President?

231 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 7:27:38am

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

On immigration, clearly. And even moreso as it relates to Obamacare.

Immigration? You mean the executive orders (which compared to his predecessors he’s done little of) that resemble immigration policies made by presidents of both parties. Here’s a helpful hint. Maybe he wouldn’t be pressed into taking such action if your party wasn’t filled with assholes like Steve King who describe immigrants working their asses off in college as “deportables.” As for ACA, what of it? Your party has challenged its constitutionality, tried to repeal it, etc. Get it over it. I know people like me not being able to be denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions really chafes your party’s ass but that’s tough shit.

232 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 7:28:07am

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233 darthstar  Jan 24, 2015 7:28:31am

Beach time for me. DF, you’re a little loose.

234 bratwurst  Jan 24, 2015 7:29:32am

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

And even moreso as it relates to Obamacare.

I have some business to attend to this morning, but I will gladly hang around until you explain how I am going to get my healthcare in the unlikely event your heroes are able to take mine away.

235 Lidane  Jan 24, 2015 7:30:53am

Far-right state Rep. Bill Zedler, R-Arlington, is in the news again, this time for filing HB 829, a bill that would require Texas high schoolers to pass a civics test if they wish to graduate.

As he told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Zedler is concerned that teens “don’t know where we got our independence from” and that he wants “kids to know as much as people who become citizens of the United States.” Perhaps valid concerns, though, as noted in the Star-Telegram, the test might not accomplish much.

But the best part of the story came at the end. When the Star-Telegram reporter asked Zedler if he’d taken a civics exam, this was his response:

“No, but I think I would do pretty well. I know the Declaration of Independence was signed in 1776. I know World War II was started Dec. 7, 1941. I know what the Civil War was fought over.”

236 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 7:31:18am

re: #234 bratwurst

I have some business to attend to this morning, but I will gladly hang around until you explain how I am going to get my healthcare in the unlikely event your heroes are able to take mine away.

Oh that’s easy. They’ll just take Obama’s name off of it and take credit for it. Kind of like how that sleazebag McConnell runs on being for Kynsect in Kentucky but runs against Obamacare. Fuckers. Yeah shit makes me angry because DF’s party leadership has government health care that they show no sign of giving up yet they want to make it harder for people like you and I to have affordable health care.

237 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 7:31:56am

re: #235 Lidane

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Another brilliant product of Barton’s education system.

238 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 24, 2015 7:32:15am

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

Bullshit. Stop cheering for your team already and join Team America. Fuck yeah.

239 Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2015 7:32:51am

re: #235 Lidane

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What do you figure the odds are that he thinks the Civil War was fought over states rights or tariffs?

240 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 7:35:51am

re: #239 Targetpractice

What do you figure the odds are that he thinks the Civil War was fought over states rights or tariffs?

Sounds like a true ignorant Know-Nothing isolationist. If the History doesn’t involve the United States - it didn’t happen.

And the foreigners who see that don’t hate us. They just shake their heads and then laugh.

241 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 7:37:24am

I would like to see a required civics test for office holders though. Many of these guys are dumb as shit.

242 Sionainn  Jan 24, 2015 7:38:34am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

Netanyahu’s visit isn’t disrespectful to America as it is disrespectful to Barack Obama. But that is in large part by design, as is Speaker Boehner having him address the Congress. The bases of both the US Republican Party and the Israeli Likud Party loath Obama and so both parties’ leaders need ways to diss the president.

As for me, I approve of the visit. Republican office holders need to slap at the president in this fashion to both satisfy their voters and to make clear to the president that Congress will not be dictated to. The president’s SOTU made clear he wants confrontation with Congress, so its best Congress make clear that confrontation has real costs to him.

Oh, good grief. What are Republicans? Age 5?

243 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 7:39:03am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

I would like to see a required civics test for office holders though. Many of these guys are dumb as shit.

Put in a nice fat question about religious requirements to hold office and watch they all fail it. Or ask *which* Christian sect they are required to belong to.
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244 Lidane  Jan 24, 2015 7:39:26am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

I would like to see a required civics test for office holders though. Many of these guys are dumb as shit.

We both know what would happen when they’d inevitably fail. They’d claim the test was liberally biased and that it wanted the politically correct answers.

245 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 7:39:45am

re: #242 Sionainn

Oh, good grief. What are Republicans? Age 5?

Their base appears to be since from D_F’s responses this approach works.
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246 Lidane  Jan 24, 2015 7:40:20am

re: #242 Sionainn

Oh, good grief. What are Republicans? Age 5?

Nope. They’re a bunch of screaming two year olds.

247 Sionainn  Jan 24, 2015 7:40:25am

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

Hell, I’ll just say it:

As I believe the president has exceeded and is exceeding his authority, yes, I do think he needs to be put in his place. Not because he is black, but because his actions are wrong. Congress needs to demonstrate it will stand up to him, and what that standing up does to diplomacy is of secondary concern.

He is doing his job since Congress isn’t. Congresscritters are the ones who need to be smacked around, yet I don’t hear any criticism from you about that. Gee, I wonder why that is.

248 lawhawk  Jan 24, 2015 7:40:27am

re: #232 De Kolta Chair

Hollywood will give biographies the Hollywood treatment, regardless of who it’s about and what they’ve done. They’ve got a knack for doing whatever they want with the story to get the ending they’re looking for.

Kyle’s story is no different. Eastwood took parts of his story and turned them into a movie; he’s done that before (Flags of Our Fathers, for instance) and he’s hardly alone in writing out parts of the story that were inconvenient, didn’t contribute to the narrative he wanted to tell, etc.

So, it’s hardly that Hollywood doesn’t tell these stories (the also did Lone Survivor too, so it’s not like Hollywood doesn’t tell these stories - and involving some of the biggest names in Hollywood to boot). It’s that some people don’t like how those stories are told.

And frankly that’s life. Not everyone gets the story they want or need. Or even the truth. It’s all through the filter of whoever is doing the story.

249 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 7:40:36am

re: #244 Lidane

We both know what would happen when they’d inevitably fail. They’d claim the test was liberally biased and that it wanted the politically correct answers.

Make it “open book” with a copy of the Constitution available. And then watch a bunch of amendments appear.
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250 Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2015 7:40:47am
251 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 7:40:53am

re: #235 Lidane

252 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 7:42:18am

re: #245 Feline Fearless Leader

Their base appears to be since from D_F’s responses this approach works.
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It’s the team sportsification of American politics. I hope there’s plenty of pom poms available for Bibi’s pep rally with his Republican friends.

253 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 7:44:09am

What Bibi is doing is encouraging Anti-Israel conspiracy theories too but Bibi doesn’t give a shit because Bibi’s happy to be a tool/hack for the American right.

254 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 7:44:43am

re: #244 Lidane

We both know what would happen when they’d inevitably fail. They’d claim the test was liberally biased and that it wanted the politically correct answers.

Haha yeah pretty much.

255 Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2015 7:45:05am

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

On immigration, clearly. And even moreso as it relates to Obamacare.

By immigration, I assume as others have that you mean the EOs that are not anywhere outside the bounds signed by previous presidents, EOs that were in keeping with the Executive’s power to set priorities and were incorporated into bipartisan legislation.

Likewise I assume when you speak about Obamacare that you’re talking about the delays to the mandates, which likewise are covered by the powers granted the Executive to execute laws and have been exercised by past administrations. To give a recent example, the White House delayed deadlines set for Medicare Part D to allow seniors to navigate the initial chaos. Hell, those EPA regs that the GOP is going nuts about have been delayed for years by successive administrations, until the matter was finally taken to court and the EPA ordered to enforce them.

Finally, if the GOP truly believes the President has overstepped the boundaries of his office and engaged in actions that exceed the powers granted it, then there’s a constitutional means of addressing such: Impeachment. Not endangering our national security and potentially drawing us into another war, and certainly not with the assistance of a foreign leader. This is behavior that even I once thought beneath the Republican Party, as I once thought it beneath you to defend such. Apparently I was wrong on both accounts.

256 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 7:45:19am

re: #248 lawhawk

This isn’t new. Start looking into the development of different movies on Wikipedia and you’ll see lots and lots of cases where the base “true story” has parts removed, fictional parts added, characters built out of multiple real life participants, and so on.

It’s part of converting media; generally from book to film. But also screenwriters modifying for various reasons; to fit run time, make things “more interesting”, fit narrative structures, etc.

Just for a few examples look at the Wikipedia pages for:
“To Live And Die In L.A.” - opening bit with the jihadi bomber is purely fictional.
“The Great Escape” - classic war movie, but a lot of changes as well from the “true story”.

257 ObserverArt  Jan 24, 2015 7:46:00am

re: #146 klystron

I believe it’s abalone.

That’s what I was thinking judging by the colors and the pearlescence. A beautiful piece of crafstmanship.

By the way…morning Lizards.

258 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 7:46:57am

I don’t think there’s ever been based on true events historical drama/bio epic that didn’t have some inaccuracies I don’t know what the fuck Rush is bitching about.

259 Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2015 7:47:31am

re: #256 Feline Fearless Leader

This isn’t new. Start looking into the development of different movies on Wikipedia and you’ll see lots and lots of cases where the base “true story” has parts removed, fictional parts added, characters built out of multiple real life participants, and so on.

It’s part of converting media; generally from book to film. But also screenwriters modifying for various reasons; to fit run time, make things “more interesting”, fit narrative structures, etc.

Just for a few examples look at the Wikipedia pages for:
“To Live And Die In L.A.” - opening bit with the jihadi bomber is purely fictional.
“The Great Escape” - classic war movie, but a lot of changes as well from the “true story”.

No, if you want a really glaring example of such behavior, just look at Braveheart.

260 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 7:47:49am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

I don’t think there’s ever been based on true events historical drama/bio epic that didn’t have some inaccuracies I don’t know what the fuck Rush is bitching about.

He is still pissed about all the changes Orson Welles made from the true story of Kane.
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261 Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2015 7:48:10am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

I don’t think there’s ever been based on true events historical drama/bio epic that didn’t have some inaccuracies I don’t know what the fuck Rush is bitching about.

Simple reason: Real life is generally boring without adding exaggerations, falsehoods, and fiction to spice it up.

262 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 7:49:24am

re: #261 Dr. Matt

Simple reason: Real life is generally boring without adding exaggerations, falsehoods, and fiction to spice it up.

Hence the time old phrase of dramatic license. I’m confused though. I thought they loved American Sniper but Erik Rush is outside even the mainstream right wing kooksphere I concede.

263 Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2015 7:50:13am

Fuck

264 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 7:50:41am

re: #259 Targetpractice

No, if you want a really glaring example of such behavior, just look at Braveheart.

My main point is that is gets done just about continuously in the history of film. And that the changes are not necessarily being done to push some agenda or be revisionist. “Braveheart” in particular was a travesty in that its inaccuracies probably massively outnumber its accuracies.

There is a really good takedown of it on a blog I read. A historian blogging on various movies and series in a historical context. Two things to not get her started on are Braveheart and “300”.

265 Lidane  Jan 24, 2015 7:51:36am

re: #252 HappyWarrior

It’s the team sportsification of American politics.

That’s the one thing I’ve never understood. I vote Democratic, true. But I absolutely reserve the right to call the Dems out if they’re being stupid. I will disagree with POTUS or with anyone on “my side” if they do something or push for something I find abhorrent.

Hell, anyone who knows me knows that I vote for the D’s here in Texas because I refuse to vote GOP on principle and I want the right to bitch about the crazy shit the Texas Republican party does.

This kind of “AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!” team mentality is beyond me. I don’t get it.

266 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 7:52:23am

re: #264 Feline Fearless Leader

My main point is that is gets done just about continuously in the history of film. And that the changes are not necessarily being done to push some agenda or be revisionist. “Braveheart” in particular was a travesty in that its inaccuracies probably massively outnumber its accuracies.

There is a really good takedown of it on a blog I read. A historian blogging on various movies and series in a historical context. Two things to not get her started on are Braveheart and “300”.

To be fair to 300, it was never intended or sold as a historically accurate film. It’s based off a graphic novel IIRC. Braveheart and Gibson’s other historical epic though The Patriot. Terrible and you’re talking about someone who has no reason to defend the English.

267 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 7:52:46am

Found one of her posts on Braveheart:

aelarsen.wordpress.com

268 Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2015 7:53:14am

If Hollywood were to make a historically accurate war movie, it would look like this:
Video

269 Lidane  Jan 24, 2015 7:54:16am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

To be fair to 300, it was never intended or sold as a historically accurate film. It’s based off a graphic novel IIRC. Braveheart and Gibson’s other historical epic though The Patriot. Terrible and you’re talking about someone who has no reason to defend the English.

Yeah, 300 wasn’t meant to be accurate to anything except Frank Miller’s graphic novel.

The Patriot was awful and made my history nerd self twitch, even if Jason Isaacs was a great villain. And Braveheart is entertaining, but I wouldn’t cite it in a history paper. Heh.

270 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 7:55:12am

re: #260 Feline Fearless Leader

He is still pissed about all the changes Orson Welles made from the true story of Kane.
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“F FOR FAKE” WAS ALL FAKE!!!1!!

271 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 7:55:38am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

To be fair to 300, it was never intended or sold as a historically accurate film. It’s based off a graphic novel IIRC. Braveheart and Gibson’s other historical epic though The Patriot. Terrible and you’re talking about someone who has no reason to defend the English.

I think the historian is coming from a viewpoint that, unfortunately, “300” is going to become the popular way that Greece and Persia in that period is viewed.

The graphic novel deserves the derision. But few stoop to ragging on comic books to be historically accurate. ;)

Gibson is a hack with a huge axe to grind. I know to not grant his films any expectation of historical accuracy.

272 Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2015 7:56:35am

But, we ALL can agree that Hollywood got it right with this historically accurate film:

Click to Reveal
273 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 7:58:41am

re: #272 Dr. Matt

But, we ALL can agree that Hollywood got it right with this historically accurate film:

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Mad Max: Beyond Guilford Court House?

274 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 7:59:22am

re: #271 Feline Fearless Leader

I think the historian is coming from a viewpoint that, unfortunately, “300” is going to become the popular way that Greece and Persia in that period is viewed.

The graphic novel deserves the derision. But few stoop to ragging on comic books to be historically accurate. ;)

Gibson is a hack with a huge axe to grind. I know to not grant his films any expectation of historical accuracy.

Oh in that case, I definitely agree with the historian. Agree about Gibson. I loved Braveheart when I was a kid and it’s still an entertaining flick but anyone who uses it as “evidence” about how awful the English were to their neighbors in that era is an idiot.

275 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 7:59:34am

re: #268 Dr. Matt

If Hollywood were to make a historically accurate war movie, it would look like this:
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That is brilliant, thanks!

276 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 24, 2015 7:59:43am

re: #248 lawhawk

Hollywood will give biographies the Hollywood treatment, regardless of who it’s about and what they’ve done. They’ve got a knack for doing whatever they want with the story to get the ending they’re looking for.

Kyle’s story is no different. Eastwood took parts of his story and turned them into a movie; he’s done that before (Flags of Our Fathers, for instance) and he’s hardly alone in writing out parts of the story that were inconvenient, didn’t contribute to the narrative he wanted to tell, etc.

So, it’s hardly that Hollywood doesn’t tell these stories (the also did Lone Survivor too, so it’s not like Hollywood doesn’t tell these stories - and involving some of the biggest names in Hollywood to boot). It’s that some people don’t like how those stories are told.

And frankly that’s life. Not everyone gets the story they want or need. Or even the truth. It’s all through the filter of whoever is doing the story.

Then what follows-The far right and left make him into something he never was for their own craven rhetoric. For the left he is the face of the Iraq invasion. Not just a soldier in combat fighting for his own and under orders, but an unwilling symbol. For the right he is a hero to support their imaginary concept of war and politics.

Then we have those who judge the movie by him or vice versa. It’s like comparing cotton or wool to a leisure suit. Something real turned into a synthetic and nearly worthless.

IMO calling him a murderer is an insult of profound depth and dishonesty.

Clint Eastwood has been a great director and story teller in just about every film he ever sat at the helm. This one was better than most and did not indulge the propagandists or rhetorical partisans.

I read his book through twice. Then saw the movie. And the partisan critics have run right over the horizon of truthfulness into deliberate distortions on several points Chris Kyle made in his book.

277 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 7:59:49am

re: #273 Feline Fearless Leader

Mad Max: Beyond Guilford Court House?

Lethal Weapon V: Showdown at Yorktown.

278 Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2015 8:01:37am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

Lethal Weapon V: Showdown at Yorktown.

vs. Weekend at Bernie’s

279 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 24, 2015 8:01:40am

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

please explain how President Obama has exceeded his authority according to this list:

Presidents and numbers of Executive Orders issued since Teddy R as follows.
Theodore Roosevelt 1,081
William Howard Taft 724
Woodrow Wilson 1,803
Warren G. Harding 522
Calvin Coolidge 1,203
Herbert Hoover 968
Franklin D. Roosevelt 3,522
Harry S. Truman 907
Dwight D. Eisenhower 484
John F. Kennedy 214
Lyndon B. Johnson 325
Richard Nixon 346
Gerald R. Ford 169
Jimmy Carter 320
Ronald Reagan 381
George H. W. Bush 166
William J. Clinton 364
George W. Bush 291
Barack Obama 194

Is it really because the President, voted into office twice now, is culturally different than the dominant plurality of the US, who are more and more defined as inflicted with an overt and often infantile sense of entitlement? IS this why Obama is perceived to have “exceeded” his authority?

280 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 24, 2015 8:02:49am

Stay classy, Sarah.

And get on the clown car!!! We need the LOLs.

281 Dr Lizardo  Jan 24, 2015 8:03:53am

re: #259 Targetpractice

No, if you want a really glaring example of such behavior, just look at Braveheart.

Braveheart is so ridiculous in its historical distortions the film should be classified as melodramatic fiction.

282 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 8:04:45am

From the Mel Gibson Wikipedia page on film projects:

In a 2012 interview, Gibson explained that the Maccabees film was still in preparation. He explained that he was drawn to the Biblical account of the uprising due to its similarity to the American Old West genre.

I read that and thought “disaster waiting to happen”.

283 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 24, 2015 8:05:35am

Fuc_ You Michael Moore!

Are these the Jesus followers?

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284 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 8:05:47am

re: #279 Rocky-in-Connecticut

please explain how President Obama has exceeded his authority according to this list:

Presidents and numbers of Executive Orders issued since Teddy R as follows.
Theodore Roosevelt 1,081
William Howard Taft 724
Woodrow Wilson 1,803
Warren G. Harding 522
Calvin Coolidge 1,203
Herbert Hoover 968
Franklin D. Roosevelt 3,522
Harry S. Truman 907
Dwight D. Eisenhower 484
John F. Kennedy 214
Lyndon B. Johnson 325
Richard Nixon 346
Gerald R. Ford 169
Jimmy Carter 320
Ronald Reagan 381
George H. W. Bush 166
William J. Clinton 364
George W. Bush 291
Barack Obama 194

Is it really because the President, voted into office twice now, is culturally different than the dominant plurality of the US, who are more and more defined as inflicted with an overt and often infantile sense of entitlement? IS this why Obama is perceived to have “exceeded” his authority?

You know, I was of the thought that Obama had issues few just to his relative predecessors but he’s done fewer than even historically restrained executives like Taft or Coolidge. He’s also issued relatively few pardons as well. Frankly DF’s notion that the president has abused his power is crap. I’d say the president has been forced into using executive power on the immigration issue, an issue I think he would rather deal with legislatively for many reasons but as I said DF’s party is filled with people like Steve King who call immigrants “Deportables”, “cantaloupe legs”, and show no desire to work with the president on immigration outside a policy that would mandate the immediate deportation of all immigrants.

285 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 8:05:49am

re: #264 Feline Fearless Leader

There is a really good takedown of it on a blog I read. A historian blogging on various movies and series in a historical context. Two things to not get her started on are Braveheart and “300”.

Would that be Alex von Tunzelmann of the Guardian?

theguardian.com

The subhead of her piece on American Sniper:

Clint Eastwood’s simplistic film about one of the deadliest snipers in US history piles on Bush-era propaganda and sharp-shoots the facts

286 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 24, 2015 8:06:36am

re: #232 De Kolta Chair

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Yeah I don’t get this.

287 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 8:09:31am

re: #282 Feline Fearless Leader

From the Mel Gibson Wikipedia page on film projects:

I read that and thought “disaster waiting to happen”.

Weird thing is I hear he did a good job on Apocalypto and the Passion to its credit did use Aramaic. I was looking at his IMDB page. His latest project as director is a film about the medic, a conscientious objector who became the first such one to win a CMOH. Desmond Doss. I believe I saw that name mentioned here when shithead Bryan Fischer said that Sal Giunta saving people “feminized” the Medal of Honor.

288 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 8:10:30am

re: #285 De Kolta Chair

Would that be Alex von Tunzelmann of the Guardian?

theguardian.com

Nope. From the blog it looks like the person is an Andrew Larsen. Appears to be a professor in Wisconsin.

289 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 8:11:03am

re: #286 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Yeah I don’t get this.

Five word explanation: Erik Rush retweeting Ben Shapiro

290 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 8:12:40am

re: #288 Feline Fearless Leader

Nope. From the blog it looks like the person is an Andrew Larsen. Appears to be a professor in Wisconsin.

Thanks a million!

291 Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2015 8:19:41am

C&L has an article this morning about some thing spoken of here today.

Presidential Respect

292 b_sharp  Jan 24, 2015 8:21:32am

It’s raining in January on the frozen Canadian tundra.
Can the apocalypse be far behind?

293 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 8:23:10am

re: #291 Dave In Austin

C&L has an article this morning about some thing spoken of here today.

Presidential Respect

Nice.

294 b_sharp  Jan 24, 2015 8:24:31am

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295 Shiplord Kirel  Jan 24, 2015 8:24:37am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

To be fair to 300, it was never intended or sold as a historically accurate film. It’s based off a graphic novel IIRC. Braveheart and Gibson’s other historical epic though The Patriot. Terrible and you’re talking about someone who has no reason to defend the English.

True. The theme of these two movies seems to be that a sufficient amount of uncontrolled rage will allow the protagonist to overcome impossible odds and perform super-human feats of daring and valor. KIlling 20 armed and alert redcoats with a hatchet? Really?
As a veteran I probably shouldn’t let this kind of thing annoy me, but it does because it is the direct opposite of the truth. In combat, loss of control will kill you, whether it’s curling up in paralyzed fear or standing up and screaming at the enemy to “bring it on.”

296 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 8:24:45am

re: #235 Lidane

So would Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Holland, France, Yugoslavia, Greece, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, China, Burma, Korea, Russia, Great Britain,…

297 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 8:28:07am

re: #295 Shiplord Kirel

True. The theme of these two movies seems to be that a sufficient amount of uncontrolled rage will allow the protagonist to overcome impossible odds and perform super-human feats of daring and valor. KIlling 20 armed and alert redcoats with a hatchet? Really?
As a veteran I probably shouldn’t let this kind of thing annoy me, but it does because it is the direct opposite of the truth. In combat, loss of control will kill you, whether it’s curling up in paralyzed fear or standing up and screaming at the enemy to “bring it on.”

I read one person make the point that Gibson’s character really isn’t a “Patriot” in that the character is only really forced into action when his son is killed. I understand why it annoys you. What bugs me is when people see war or action movies and think all it takes is a determined person with a gun. I mean we all like to think that we would be able to handle adversity well but I admit it here as a non-veteran if ever placed in many of the situations, I’d be scared shitless and I hope most people have the honesty to admit that they would too.

298 Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2015 8:28:33am

re: #291 Dave In Austin

C&L has an article this morning about some thing spoken of here today.

Presidential Respect

Ayep, that’s what I’ve found myself snickering at time and again, arguments that the President is responsible for the level of partisan hostility in D.C. politics and that peace would somehow reign if only he’d just accept that the GOP is right. Of course, it’s never made that obvious, but the argument is almost always that he just needs to give up on whatever he wants to see happen and reach some “bipartisan” agreement that mirrors exactly what the GOP wants.

299 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 24, 2015 8:30:08am

WOLVERIENES!!!!!!!!!!

300 Dark_Falcon  Jan 24, 2015 8:30:48am

re: #285 De Kolta Chair

Would that be Alex von Tunzelmann of the Guardian?

theguardian.com

The subhead of her piece on American Sniper:

What propaganda is that, I wonder. That Al-Qaeda-in Iraq had rooms custom-outfitted for torturing civilians who did not obey them while terrorizing and ransacking entire small cities? Because that actually did happen.

For once, I actually gave credit to Piers Morgan whose argument essentially was:

“Chris Kyle cannot be blamed for the wrongs of the Bush Administration, as he did not commit them. And thinking Iraq the wrong war does not mean the people we were fighting were not evil. They were very evil and Kyle did good in killing them.”

301 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 8:32:15am

re: #298 Targetpractice

Ayep, that’s what I’ve found myself snickering at time and again, arguments that the President is responsible for the level of partisan hostility in D.C. politics and that peace would somehow reign if only he’d just accept that the GOP is right. Of course, it’s never made that obvious, but the argument is almost always that he just needs to give up on whatever he wants to see happen and reach some “bipartisan” agreement that mirrors exactly what the GOP wants.

One Republican candidate at least was honest about what he thought bipartisanship was and hat was the Democrats doing what the Republicans wanted. Really, this president really could be more partisan if he wanted to and I don’t think anyone who wasn’t against him from the start would really blame him but he’s not and still Republican hacks blame him for poisoning the environment even though as pointed out early, McConnell himself vowed that the Republicans primary goal was to make Obama a one term president and the fact that numerous prominent Republicans like Paul Ryan and now Majority Leader McCarthy were in a meeting discussing how to kneecap him the day he was inaugurated. These guys never cared about working with the president. They just cared about obstructing him by all means necessary and then when he would fight back, they’d cry about how he was being the unreasonable one.

302 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 24, 2015 8:32:20am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

There was no AQ in Iraq until Bush went Cowboy.

303 Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2015 8:33:42am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

What propaganda is that, I wonder. That Al-Qaeda-in Iraq had rooms custom-outfitted for torturing civilians who did not obey them while terrorizing and ransacking entire small cities? Because that actually did happen.

For once, I actually gave credit to Piers Morgan whose argument essentially was:

“Chris Kyle cannot be blamed for the wrongs of the Bush Administration, as he did not commit them. And thinking Iraq the wrong war does not mean the people we were fighting were not evil. They were very evil and Kyle did good in killing them.”

More of that conservative pro-life stance.

304 Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2015 8:36:15am

Lulz……..

305 b_sharp  Jan 24, 2015 8:36:39am

If I remember correctly Obama did reach out across the aisle when he first took office. In effect the republicans told him to go fuck himself.

The tea party has never had any intention of working on bipartisan solutions.

306 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 8:36:48am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

What propaganda is that, I wonder. That Al-Qaeda-in Iraq had rooms custom-outfitted for torturing civilians who did not obey them while terrorizing and ransacking entire small cities? Because that actually did happen.

For once, I actually gave credit to Piers Morgan whose argument essentially was:

“Chris Kyle cannot be blamed for the wrongs of the Bush Administration, as he did not commit them. And thinking Iraq the wrong war does not mean the people we were fighting were not evil. They were very evil and Kyle did good in killing them.”

Just as a matter of cold-hearted realism, before AQ was torturing Iraqis, Sadaam Hussein was doing it. Hussein was a lot more manageable than Al Qaeda.

307 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 24, 2015 8:37:13am

re: #297 HappyWarrior

I read one person make the point that Gibson’s character really isn’t a “Patriot” in that the character is only really forced into action when his son is killed. I understand why it annoys you. What bugs me is when people see war or action movies and think all it takes is a determined person with a gun. I mean we all like to think that we would be able to handle adversity well but I admit it here as a non-veteran if ever placed in many of the situations, I’d be scared shitless and I hope most people have the honesty to admit that they would too.

Perhaps we are sometimes blaming the movies for mistakes the viewers make. Assuming accuracy where it was simply not claimed. Overlaying the words of a character with our own views to skew them for our own personal satisfaction.

308 b_sharp  Jan 24, 2015 8:38:55am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

It isn’t so much the job Kyle did as it is the sick glee he took in it.

309 Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2015 8:39:15am

This will go over well…… Now for Teh Twitters!

310 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 8:39:50am

re: #307 Rightwingconspirator

Perhaps we are sometimes blaming the movies for mistakes the viewers make. Assuming accuracy where it was simply not claimed. Overlaying the words of a character with our own views to skew them for our own personal satisfaction.

I was talking about viewers clearly. I said nothing about specific characters. I really haven’t formed a definitive opinion on American Sniper yet as I’ve yet to read the book or see the film but I was talking about action films in general here. We see someone on film, it doesn’t matter if it’s a fictional character like John McLaine or a real one like Chris Kyle, we like to think that we can take on bad guys. It’s just an observation. Everyone wants to be the hero. It’s human nature.

311 Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2015 8:39:55am

re: #306 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Just as a matter of cold-hearted realism, before AQ was torturing Iraqis, Sadaam Hussein was doing it. Hussein was a lot more manageable than Al Qaeda.

Indeed, the man was always a bastard. But before he threatened Kuwaiti oil fields, he was our bastard.

312 Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2015 8:40:03am

re: #305 b_sharp

If I remember correctly Obama did reach out across the aisle when he first took office. In effect the republicans told him to go fuck himself.

The tea party has never had any intention of working on bipartisan solutions.

“The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”
~The Turtle

Yeah, the GOPigs really did a wonderful job trying to work with the President.

313 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 8:40:59am

re: #311 Targetpractice

Indeed, the man was always a bastard. But before he threatened Kuwaiti oil fields, he was our bastard.

A fine legacy of the Reagan-Bush years I’d say but remember liberals loved Saddam.//

314 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 8:41:12am

re: #288 Feline Fearless Leader

Nope. From the blog it looks like the person is an Andrew Larsen. Appears to be a professor in Wisconsin.

The more I read about the dramatic liberties, to put it lightly, taken by The Imitation Game the less I want to see it.

315 Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2015 8:41:38am

re: #308 b_sharp

It isn’t so much the job Kyle did as it is the sick glee he took in it.

And he made a contest out of it. When another sniper approached his murder count, he went on a shooting spree to ensure his “fame” and “glory”.

316 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 8:42:15am

re: #314 De Kolta Chair

The more I read the about the dramatic liberties, to put it lightly, taken by The Imitation Game the less I want to see it.

I saw a bit on Cracked about how they got wrong a very clear part about Turing and one of the Cambridge Five spies. I still want to see it but that was disappointing.

317 b_sharp  Jan 24, 2015 8:42:31am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

A fine legacy of the Reagan-Bush years I’d say but remember liberals loved Saddam.//

Was that a local or global memo, because I didn’t get it?

318 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 8:42:38am

re: #311 Targetpractice

The argument I made against the war in 2003, and that’s speaking as a Republican, is that Hussein knew that as long as he didn’t get carried away, we would let him live a long and decadent life, like Castro and Qaddafi. And that’s pretty much what he did from 1991 to 2002. I can just imagine his epic WTF when the W administration turned against him.

319 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 8:43:04am

re: #317 b_sharp

Was that a local or global memo, because I didn’t get it?

Not sure. I just remember being told because I thought the Iraq War wrong that I had to have been a Saddam lover.

320 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 24, 2015 8:43:06am

re: #306 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

And he was Reagan/Cheney/Rumsfeld’s buddy.

321 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 24, 2015 8:43:18am

re: #308 b_sharp

It isn’t so much the job Kyle did as it is the sick glee he took in it.

That’s pretty common in people that have been wounded or under extreme risk in combat. Particularly close combat. That’s how the human brain copes with the combat. That’s how it was trained to think in combat training. Controlled anger is a tool used to perfection by military trainers. Like I said this before, if Chris was mentally ill, (and it’s hard to argue he was not) he deserved treatment far more than contempt. Like any other damaged vet.

322 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 8:44:27am

re: #320 GlutenFreeJesus

And he was Reagan/Cheney/Rumsfeld’s buddy.

Exactly, basically we needed him to hold Iraq together for us. You knew he wouldn’t live forever, but if he could keep a lid on that country as long as possible it was good for us.

323 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 8:44:29am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

I saw a bit on Cracked about how they got wrong a very clear part about Turing and one of the Cambridge Five spies. I still want to see it but that was disappointing.

Anthony Lane New Yorker review was pretty damning, though it praises the acting:
newyorker.com

324 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 24, 2015 8:44:59am

Mmmm. Mild Santa Ana winds here today. It’s going to be 77° F here today. The air is so clear that it’s like having a new pair of glasses.

325 Skip Intro  Jan 24, 2015 8:45:08am

A little rain has fallen on Calgary Ted’s run for the WH.

(Alleged) Billionaire Donald Trump, the most prominent “birther” to question Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as president, asserted Friday that Sen. Ted Cruz must clear up legal doubts about his own eligibility due to his birth outside the United States.

“It’s a problem. It could be a difficult problem, but he admits that he was born in Canada,” Trump told reporters in Iowa on the eve of the first major gathering of 2016 presidential hopefuls. “He’s a friend of mine. I have great respect for him. But …certainly it’s a stumbling block and he’s going to have to have it solved before he goes too far,” Trump said.

trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com

326 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 24, 2015 8:45:19am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

Commie!!!!!!
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327 ObserverArt  Jan 24, 2015 8:45:27am

re: #208 Dark_Falcon

Netanyahu’s visit isn’t disrespectful to America as it is disrespectful to Barack Obama. But that is in large part by design, as is Speaker Boehner having him address the Congress. The bases of both the US Republican Party and the Israeli Likud Party loath Obama and so both parties’ leaders need ways to diss the president.

As for me, I approve of the visit. Republican office holders need to slap at the president in this fashion to both satisfy their voters and to make clear to the president that Congress will not be dictated to. The president’s SOTU made clear he wants confrontation with Congress, so its best Congress make clear that confrontation has real costs to him.

You just can’t help yourself can you?

Dark…it is your type of thinking that is tearing this country up.

Confrontation with the president is ALL those dunderheads you so love have done since the man has been in office. How has any of that been good for this country?

Now, you mention the President is spoiling for a fight. I thought you knew politics. Seems all you know is blind boosterism for a bunch of duffs that have done nothing in your name, or for any other actual Republicans…or for other Americans and this country and world.

“We want to work with this president” They can’t even work with each other. As a lame duck the president did exactly as he should have done instead of kissing Boehner and McConnell butt. He went over them and is going to the people, the ones he actually represents. That is politics.

I once thought you were a moderate. Pretty clear you are not. You are an enabler and all you have to show for it is the most despised, lowest rated congress in history. But I am sure you are proud of that.

Go team!!! Screw this country.

328 Dark_Falcon  Jan 24, 2015 8:46:56am

re: #302 GlutenFreeJesus

There was no AQ in Iraq until Bush went Cowboy.

re: #306 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Just as a matter of cold-hearted realism, before AQ was torturing Iraqis, Sadaam Hussein was doing it. Hussein was a lot more manageable than Al Qaeda.

Both of what you say is true, but what George W. Bush and Dick Cheney did is not Chris Kyle’s fault, nor does the that AQI was created after the overthrow make it any less evil. Soldiers, SEALs, Marines and airmen who fought in Iraq should not be the targets of anger over decisions they did not make.

329 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 8:47:49am

re: #323 De Kolta Chair

Anthony Lane New Yorker review was pretty damning, though it praises the acting:
newyorker.com

Damn. Still going to see though. The codebreaking stuff sounds fascinating. When I worked at the History Magazine firm, I did some research on Joe Rochefort who helped break the Japanese code and it played a big role in the US winning the Battle of Midway.

330 Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2015 8:48:53am

re: #328 Dark_Falcon

Both of what you say is true, but what George W. Bush and Dick Cheney did is not Chris Kyle’s fault, nor does the that AQI was created after the overthrow make it any less evil. Soldiers, SEALs, Marines and airmen who fought in Iraq should not be the targets of anger over decisions they did not make.

That’s strange, because when someone in the VA or IRS or ATF did something wrong, it was President Obama’s fault.

331 Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2015 8:50:01am

Oh, let us not forget when a drone operator kills civilians, that’s President Obama’s fault too.

332 ObserverArt  Jan 24, 2015 8:50:33am

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

Hell, I’ll just say it:

As I believe the president has exceeded and is exceeding his authority, yes, I do think he needs to be put in his place. Not because he is black, but because his actions are wrong. Congress needs to demonstrate it will stand up to him, and what that standing up does to diplomacy is of secondary concern.

I have a felling you having to point out “not because he is Black” is a tell. He’s the president…why did you have to point out he is when you are talking about his actions in office. What does “Black” have to do with it.

Sorry I am behind in this thread…but damn it. I can’t but respond. I’m disgusted.

333 Skip Intro  Jan 24, 2015 8:51:07am

Here’s another one of your type of Republicans, Dark. I would have thought that even you would find a former VP candidate holding a sign that says “Fuck” more than a little degrading, but I was wrong.

Steve King: I Was Being ‘Kind’ By Referring To Obama’s Guest As ‘A Deportable’

Nice party you have there Dark.

huffingtonpost.com

334 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 24, 2015 8:51:09am

re: #328 Dark_Falcon

Where am I expressing anger towards our soldiers who were wrongly put in harms way to line the pockets of Dick Cheney?

Your team has done more to fuck up this world than anyone else since this country has existed. Own up to it.

335 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 8:51:34am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

Damn. Still going to see though. The codebreaking stuff sounds fascinating. When I worked at the History Magazine firm, I did some research on Joe Rochefort who helped break the Japanese code and it played a big role in the US winning the Battle of Midway.

If you read the history you also see that Rochefort’s career got kneecapped by a superior officer in D.C. who wanted the credit to go to his code-breaking unit instead of the one in Hawaii.

336 ObserverArt  Jan 24, 2015 8:53:36am

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

On immigration, clearly. And even moreso as it relates to Obamacare.

This one really pisses me off! If not for Obamacare, I might have no health insurance coverage at all.

Thanks a lot Dark.

Grrrrrrrrr.

(Gotta go cool off. I am afraid of what I will type next. Respect gone.)

337 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 8:54:00am

re: #335 Feline Fearless Leader

If you read the history you also see that Rochefort’s career got kneecapped by a superior officer in D.C. who wanted the credit to go to his code-breaking unit instead of the one in Hawaii.

Yep I remember reading that.

338 Iwouldprefernotto  Jan 24, 2015 8:54:26am

re: #336 ObserverArt

This one really pisses me off! If not for Obamacare, I might have no health insurance coverage at all.

Thanks a lot Dark.

Grrrrrrrrr.

(Gotta go cool off. I am afraid of what I will type next. Respect gone.)

The only reason I have healthcare is because of Obamacare.

339 thedopefishlives  Jan 24, 2015 8:55:49am

Morning Lizardim.

340 Dark_Falcon  Jan 24, 2015 8:57:18am

re: #330 Dr. Matt

That’s strange, because when someone in the VA or IRS or ATF did something wrong, it was President Obama’s fault.

re: #331 Dr. Matt

Oh, let us not forget when a drone operator kills civilians, that’s President Obama’s fault too.

Other people have blamed Obama loudly on those matters, but I’ve been more careful. On drone strikes and the VA I’ve not blamed Obama at all, and very little on ‘Fast and Furious’ (I did blame AG Holder, but that isn’t blaming Obama.

341 Skip Intro  Jan 24, 2015 8:57:44am

Nobody can say the GOP doesn’t move fast.

Senate Republicans Remove ‘Civil Rights And Human Rights’ From Subcommittee Name

This will now be known as the subcommittee to watch over the N*Clang in the White House.

In his press release, Cornyn never used the phrase Civil rights or human rights. Instead, the release said he would be a “watchdog against unconstitutional overreach and will hold the Obama Administration accountable for its actions.”

huffingtonpost.com

342 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 24, 2015 8:58:32am

re: #340 Dark_Falcon

But it’s his fault for allowing millions of your fellow citizens to finally have health insurance. Yeah dude. That’s fucked up.

343 Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2015 8:59:10am

Oh, by the way, Flori-DUH is back in the news:

344 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 24, 2015 8:59:30am

re: #331 Dr. Matt

Oh, let us not forget when a drone operator kills civilians, that’s President Obama’s fault too.

It occurs to me that if the movie had been all about an air force drone operator instead of a sniper the critics would simply switch partisan polarity.
Bush invaded Iraq, but Obama really accelerated the drone program.

So, President Bush, President Obama or the AF officer? Which has earned popular contempt if any?

345 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 9:00:11am

re: #333 Skip Intro

Here’s another one of your type of Republicans, Dark. I would have thought that even you would find a former VP candidate holding a sign that says “Fuck” more than a little degrading, but I was wrong.

Steve King: I Was Being ‘Kind’ By Referring To Obama’s Guest As ‘A Deportable’

Nice party you have there Dark.

huffingtonpost.com

And I’m being kind when I refer to Steve King as someone who needs a good smack in the face. Really, DF, you want to know why so many of us view your party with utter contempt? Look at this guy. He repeatedly dehumanizes immigrants talking about them how you see the Klan and neo-Nazis talk about blacks or Jews. But will Boehner punish him? Nah probalby give him a nice cushy job like that other Steve guy who despite speaking to a David Duke group is presently the number three in your party’s House leadership. This shit needs to end. If conservatives and Republicans want us on the left to stop calling them racist. Well you know they could stop being racist but the real problem is that much of the base is racist and they know what they would lose if they actually adopted some basic humanity towards people who weren’t like them.

346 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 9:01:17am

re: #343 Dr. Matt

Oh, by the way, Flori-DUH is back in the news:

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Agh!

347 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 9:01:27am

I guess this wouldn’t be a good time to revive my “Everybody join the Republican Party and crowd out the wingnuts” meme.

348 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 9:01:38am
Choose not to. Too many compromises. You want to watch the karo-net tournament; she wants to listen to music, so you compromise - you listen to music. You like Earth Jazz; she prefers Klingon Opera so you compromise - you listen to Klingon Opera. So here you were ready to have a nice night watching the karo-net match and you wind up spending an agonizing evening listening to Klingon Opera.

- Odo

349 Dr. Matt  Jan 24, 2015 9:01:46am

re: #344 Rightwingconspirator

It occurs to me that if the movie had been all about an air force drone operator instead of a sniper the critics would simply switch partisan polarity.
Bush invaded Iraq, but Obama really accelerated the drone program.

So, President Bush, President Obama or the AF officer? Which has earned popular contempt if any?

I wish I could up-ding this elevenity.

350 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 24, 2015 9:01:50am

re: #334 GlutenFreeJesus

It was never a national security issue as much as it was a (no-bid contract) business opportunity.

351 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 9:02:28am

re: #341 Skip Intro

Nobody can say the GOP doesn’t move fast.

Senate Republicans Remove ‘Civil Rights And Human Rights’ From Subcommittee Name

This will now be known as the subcommittee to watch over the N*Clang in the White House.

huffingtonpost.com

Remember Cornyn is someone that Steve Stockman thought wasn’t “conservative” enough. What is conservative enough? Maybe Nick Griffin should get US citizenship, I’m sure he’d be perfectly conservative// for the GOP base.

352 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 9:02:40am

Send the rednecks back where they came from - the Democratic Party!

353 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 24, 2015 9:03:05am

re: #350 Rocky-in-Connecticut

$$$$$$$$$. And I can’t believe I was fooled by their BS.

354 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 9:03:48am

re: #352 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Send the rednecks back where they came from - the Democratic Party!

No thanks they left because the Democratic Party chose to in Humphrey’s words step out of the darkness of states rights and enter the bright sunshine of human rights. The Republicans coveted them so much that Nixon went after Strom Thurmond and his supporters.

355 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 9:03:58am

re: #341 Skip Intro

Nobody can say the GOP doesn’t move fast.

Senate Republicans Remove ‘Civil Rights And Human Rights’ From Subcommittee Name

This will now be known as the subcommittee to watch over the N*Clang in the White House.

huffingtonpost.com

They’ve been itching to do that for years.

356 GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 24, 2015 9:04:01am

re: #351 HappyWarrior

Before too long, David Duke will win the GOP nomination via write-ins.

357 Skip Intro  Jan 24, 2015 9:04:53am

re: #356 GlutenFreeJesus

Duke is too much of a moderate for today’s GOP voter.

358 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 9:04:58am

re: #348 Feline Fearless Leader

- Odo

A possible compromise would be Sun Ra.

359 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 24, 2015 9:05:14am

re: #344 Rightwingconspirator

As long as the killing is of predominately brown-skinned people who are culturally alien to a solid 25%-35% of this country, there is no real “popular contempt”.

360 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 9:05:23am

re: #356 GlutenFreeJesus

Before too long, David Duke will win the GOP nomination via write-ins.

Honestly the fact that he got over 40% of the vote is scary as is.

361 Dark_Falcon  Jan 24, 2015 9:05:29am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

And if Steve King were a congressman in Illinois my whole extended family would do our best to get him primaried out. But he’s from Iowa. One can only work to ensure one has a good party where one lives. The rest of the country isn’t my fault.

362 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 9:06:21am

Could you imagine if 25 million libz joined the Republican Party? The half dozen moderates (RINOs) wouldn’t give a shit, and the wingnuts would have to find themselves somewhere else to go.

363 Iwouldprefernotto  Jan 24, 2015 9:07:02am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

And if Steve King were a congressman in Illinois my whole extended family would do our best to get him primaried out. But he’s from Iowa. One can only work to ensure one has a good party where one lives. The rest of the country isn’t my fault.

Then why do you support the rest of the party?

364 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 9:07:09am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

And if Steve King were a congressman in Illinois my whole extended family would do our best to get him primaried out. But he’s from Iowa. One can only work to ensure one has a good party where one lives. The rest of the country isn’t my fault.

Yet your state party gave us Joe Walsh, so please don’t insult my intelligence by acting like your state party isn’t part of the problem with the GOP as a whole. You have to ask yourself what makes your party so welcoming to a bigot like King to want to be part of it? I don’t know about you but I’m sick of these guys dehumanizing people and continuing to get re-elected.

365 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 9:08:04am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

And if Steve King were a congressman in Illinois my whole extended family would do our best to get him primaried out. But he’s from Iowa. One can only work to ensure one has a good party where one lives. The rest of the country isn’t my fault.

That’s very Curious-Lurker of you. Maybe you can talk to your local GOP contacts about cutting back on the anti-Muslim rhetoric.
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366 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 9:08:52am

Just like the lazy ass democrats sat home last November and left us with this crappy Congress, I think too many apathetic Republicans are standing by watching the wingnuts take over.

367 Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2015 9:11:52am

re: #321 Rightwingconspirator

That’s pretty common is people that have been wounded or under extreme risk in combat. Particularly close combat. That’s how the human brain copes with the combat. That’s how it was trained to think in combat training. Controlled anger is a tool used to perfection by military trainers. Like I said this before, if Chris was mentally ill, (and it’s hard to argue he was not) he deserved treatment far more than contempt. Like any other damaged vet.

Let me say this, I live in the country outside Austin, TX. I have heard PLENTY of comments about Chris Kyle in the last few days from locals around here. I believe that our military needs sharp shooters AKA snipers. When I was in the Army back in the 70’s as a truck driver, I was given this task within my Company because I could shoot well. Snipers are not cowards and indeed are deserving of our support. They are acting under orders and they save American lives.

Sniper Kyle crossed a bridge too far with respect to making a competition of his kills if that is what he did. If he ever expressed the glee of his job to his commanders, he should have been pulled from that duty immediately. This indicates a sociopath, or even a true psychotic IMO.

It’s my opinion that Chris Kyle, who was a Texan, hunted humans with the same relish that Texas hunter hunt wild hogs. That is the demeanor that it reminds me off. Kill every one, every time, till there are none left. This is instilled father to son (and daughter) throughout this state and most of the south.

The link below to a fishing forum that I belong to will show the majority of redneck opinion that I hear daily on this. Be forewarned, it’s ugly and ignorant but puts a window on this situation. I know a lot of these guys and for the most part, politics removed, they are a decent folk.

Chris Kyle. Texas Version

368 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 9:13:22am

re: #362 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Could you imagine if 25 million libz joined the Republican Party? The half dozen moderates (RINOs) wouldn’t give a shit, and the wingnuts would have to find themselves somewhere else to go.

I know exactly where they should go.

369 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 9:14:51am

The only person I heard call a sniper a coward was Michael Moore and he referenced a feeling that many soldiers had about snipers. I’ve read countless times that soldiers wouldn’t take snipers prisoner. Everybody loves them when they’re on your side, but the enemy’s snipers were always cowards.

370 ObserverArt  Jan 24, 2015 9:17:50am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

And if Steve King were a congressman in Illinois my whole extended family would do our best to get him primaried out. But he’s from Iowa. One can only work to ensure one has a good party where one lives. The rest of the country isn’t my fault.

Ah. But if he got past the primary and was on a ticket against a Democrat…

Steve King for the win.

We are aware of how you word things. I’ll spare the descriptive names.

Later all.

Gonna watch some BBall and the Daytona 24 Hour race at 2 PM while finishing up (hopefully) the stripping process on my ol’ staircase. She’s looking good. Got some creative wood epoxy work and hole filling to do to fix some of the more obnoxious things that happened to the staircase during its years as a slum-landlord-rooming-house, funky-ass apartment. It should still look damn good when stained and finished.

Maybe as good as Klys’ new axe!

It has killer quarter-sawn white oak from 1903 or so. No inlay though. That’s in some of the other houses in this old part of Columbus. Pictures when done. When done…sigh.

371 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 24, 2015 9:23:46am

re: #358 De Kolta Chair

A possible compromise would be Sun Ra.

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Saw him and the Arkestra a few times. Sun Ra was one of the very few artists in my “Drop everything and starve if necessary to see him play,” category.

372 Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2015 9:26:00am
373 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 9:27:12am

re: #372 Charles Johnson

The GOP needs us, they just don’t know it. And like it or not we need a sane GOP.

374 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 24, 2015 9:28:54am

re: #370 ObserverArt

It has killer quarter-sawn white oak from 1903 or so.

It’s good to hear that you’re taking the time and considerable effort on it. I’d swear that that kind of old wood has a life all its own.

375 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 9:29:14am

re: #373 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

The GOP needs us, they just don’t know it. And like it or not we need a sane GOP.

If my choice is no GOP or insane GOP I will take the former. That appears more likely at this point to spawn a sane non-Democratic party.

376 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 24, 2015 9:30:09am

re: #367 Dave In Austin

From his book and the movie he was very uncomfortable with the kills competition thing. In his own words he talked about trying to get off that duty and back on his entry team. Or any entry team so as to improve their skills and survival rate. He wanted off the roof and back in his SEAL squad.

He was boastful in ways that make us squirm or object. That goes with the SEAL/Fighter pilot/HRT skill set. Their combat mindset is hyper aggressive. Chained lightning released wins. Slow loses.

I think he took felt glee, real satisfaction when he shot what was clearly an enemy combatant that was attacking our guys. He bragged about that. What wrecked his mind I suspect was exactly who that enemy combatant was sometimes. And that was the heart of the “they are evil” and “I have seen evil with my own eyes” paraphrased quotes we see.

Right now Chris Kyle seems to personify for us that thing we all hate in the men and women soldiers we love- What happens to their mind or IMO soul when we learn to kill and then do so. Few of us possess the coping skills for that as evidenced by what happen every time our soldiers finally come home.

Many of us have trained to kill if necessary. Military, police or straight civilian. Few actually fight to the death of another. But those that have done so even once are always changed often terribly. American Sniper the movie did not flinch, did not hesitate one bit to show us that big part of the story.

377 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 9:33:07am

re: #375 Feline Fearless Leader

If my choice is no GOP or insane GOP I will take the former. That appears more likely at this point to spawn a sane non-Democratic party.

Not sure how old you are, but the Democratic Party has it’s own history of lameness. That’s why I registered R back in 1982. Without a rival, it will wander down some bad roads.
In fact, I think I can argue that a weak Democratic Party has led to the ridiculous state of the Republican Party. I wish I had more time, but take the off year elections, for example. The Dems sat home and let the worst of the Republican Party run wild all over us.

378 bratwurst  Jan 24, 2015 9:34:11am

Ok, probably not 99%…but a LOT.

379 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 9:34:19am

re: #375 Feline Fearless Leader

BTW Philly rocks!!

380 Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2015 9:35:20am

re: #377 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Ross Perot… (Sheepishly puts hand up)

381 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 9:37:14am

I can’t remember the last Republican I voted for, probably Arlen Spector. Haven’t changed my registration, however. Someday, my party will come back.

382 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2015 9:37:35am

re: #380 Dave In Austin

Ross Perot… (Sheepishly puts hand up)

I blame Ross Perot for making the proliferation of silly, pointless charts a legitimate thing for political argument.

383 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 9:39:58am

re: #380 Dave In Austin

Ross Perot… (Sheepishly puts hand up)

I will always think H tanked that election. There’s no way he should have lost to Clinton. My logic is that Dan Quayle was supposed to make him impeachment-proof, but the dogs were still circling.

384 Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2015 9:40:38am

re: #381 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Here in Texas I generally vote in the Republican primary so it’s always a vote against and opposed to for. Therefore the registration is pubes.

385 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 9:41:24am

re: #384 Dave In Austin

Not much you can do there without a couple thousand of friends.

386 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 9:41:43am

BBL

387 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 9:42:28am

re: #377 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Not sure how old you are, but the Democratic Party has it’s own history of lameness. That’s why I registered R back in 1982. Without a rival, it will wander down some bad roads.
In fact, I think I can argue that a weak Democratic Party has led to the ridiculous state of the Republican Party. I wish I had more time, but take the off year elections, for example. The Dems sat home and let the worst of the Republican Party run wild all over us.

I was registered R in the 80s as well. Primarily because the GOP seemed the reasonably moderate party compared to the D side. Went independent in the 90s as the R party started down the wingnut slide with their anti-science and religious rhetoric. In addition to exiling their moderate wing.

388 Dave In Austin  Jan 24, 2015 9:43:28am

re: #385 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Not much you can do there without a couple thousand of friends.

Brother, you got that right. I was absolutely shocked that turnout was so low this last time around.

389 Rightwingconspirator  Jan 24, 2015 9:47:12am

re: #383 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Breaking his tax pledge even though it was a really smart deal tied to then unheard of spending limits later overwhelmed his war win. Of course recession drags on any President and that was a big one for its day. Perot grabbed that aw shucks populist tone perfectly despite being a grifter in his own right.

390 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 24, 2015 9:49:45am

re: #377 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Not sure how old you are, but the Democratic Party has it’s own history of lameness. That’s why I registered R back in 1982. Without a rival, it will wander down some bad roads.
In fact, I think I can argue that a weak Democratic Party has led to the ridiculous state of the Republican Party. I wish I had more time, but take the off year elections, for example. The Dems sat home and let the worst of the Republican Party run wild all over us.

True that. According to a number of candidates in the mid-terms the Democratic party has no recent achievements and no goals. It tickles my sense of irony when a Republican makes some statement that’s beyond controversial and the tut-tutting echoes through the blogosphere because that Republican was elected to Congress while our candidate, if we even bothered to run one, was not.

391 Charles Johnson  Jan 24, 2015 9:52:34am
392 Targetpractice  Jan 24, 2015 9:53:16am

re: #391 Charles Johnson

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Two Dipshits Enter! One Dipshit (Unfortunately) Leaves!

393 Shiplord Kirel  Jan 24, 2015 9:56:43am

Whoa! Cars painted like aircraft, from the sublime to the ridiculous. Boneyard Safari

My favorite: Morgan 3-wheeler in Great War RFC scheme

Close second: Blue Angels Mustang

On the ridiculous side: Luftwaffe Smartcar

394 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 24, 2015 10:00:31am

re: #392 Targetpractice

Two Dipshits Enter! One Dipshit (Unfortunately) Leaves!

with any luck, neither will be able to find their way back out…

395 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 10:06:33am

Once again, we were awoken at 8 am by a jackhammer. My wife’s theory is that long ago the city of New York lost its gold has been searching for it ever since.

396 Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 24, 2015 10:10:34am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

with any luck, neither will be able to find their way back out…

But what we’re going to get is two dipshits exiting - crowing louder than ever about their victory and complete destruction of the opponent. And please send money!
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397 WhatEVs  Jan 24, 2015 10:18:03am

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

398 The War TARDIS  Jan 24, 2015 10:19:08am

re: #381 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

For me, I had got to the point where I essentially saw the Republicans as Daleks. As in inhuman monsters.

This resulted a an issue when a friend came out as Republican. I started accusing her of hating Muslims and thinking Gay people should be killed. I did patch it up.

Hopwever, as she is know a low-level aide to Sen. Lankford, I hold her responsible for everything republicans do in DC.

399 WhatEVs  Jan 24, 2015 10:20:24am

re: #176 goddamnedfrank

In your opinion who’s the most responsible journalist covering the Beltway media right now? This evening I stumbled across some information and have been struggling with an ethical dilemma for the last few hours. If I ignore it, I could well end up in effect condoning real harm, but if it’s not handled and investigated just right, that too could easily result in harm.

Sorry, I have to be deliberately vague about this. Anyway, who would you try to contact if integrity, professionalism and above all empathy were your primary criteria?

Maddow is the only person I think fits all the criteria. Maybe she isn’t beltway enough, though. You can email Steve Benen, who I think is all those things (he’s now a producer on her show). I have an email if you want it.

If you’re looking for someone at WaPo or something…who knows.

400 WhatEVs  Jan 24, 2015 10:21:24am

re: #180 William Barnett-Lewis

Christian Science Monitor? They used to be well regarded.

If you want anyone who is what I consider really good (outside of Washington itself), it would be McClatchy. I think they are likely the best, IMHO, in the country.

401 De Kolta Chair  Jan 24, 2015 10:26:07am

re: #397 WhatEVs

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As I’m sure you know, Montel Williams has a long history of supporting and abetting scammers (and of being one himself), including my personal favorite, the “commemorative Obama inauguration coin collection” that was just regular coins with color stickers applied to them and sold at a huge mark-up.

402 HappyWarrior  Jan 24, 2015 10:27:41am

re: #391 Charles Johnson

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Awww are Mommy and Daddy fighting again? Seriously though, what are they feuding about? Those two seem like a match made in wingnut heaven for each other.

403 WhatEVs  Jan 24, 2015 10:47:45am

re: #381 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I can’t remember the last Republican I voted for, probably Arlen Spector. Haven’t changed my registration, however. Someday, my party will come back.

Your party is already back, it’s just that they’re called Democrats now.

404 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 24, 2015 3:28:42pm

re: #403 WhatEVs

Whatever


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