NPR: The Mormon Church Wants a Free Pass for Bigotry

Here we go again - bigotry redefined as “religious freedom”
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The Mormon church has apparently learned a lesson from the Catholics and Protestants who’ve been redefining “religious freedom” as a free pass for bigotry, because they announced this week that they’ll support LGBT anti-discrimination laws — with one catch. They want to be immune from criticism when they continue the same anti-LGBT policies they’ve always had.

NPR has an interview with Mormon leader Elder Dallin Oaks, with a ration of phony victimhood that has to be heard to be believed. When I listened to this earlier, I was yelling at the radio: Mormon LGBT Announcement Met With Cheers, Skepticism.

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211 comments

1 Belafon  Jan 29, 2015 5:16:59pm

Since any law that would prevent criticism would be unconstitutional, I’m gonna say: Nope.

2 Skip Intro  Jan 29, 2015 5:18:32pm

Sounds like the Mormon Church is trying out the Scientology playbook.

3 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 5:20:26pm

I swear to Dog, they have an investment in the first Mormon President.

Awful lot of moderating going on.

And yes, I saw that graphic that showed liberals are most biased against LDS, while conservs most biased against Muslims.

4 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 5:20:41pm

Romney will be president over my dead body.

5 Skip Intro  Jan 29, 2015 5:22:17pm

re: #3 #FergusonFireside

I swear to Dog, they have an investment in the first Mormon President.

Awful lot of moderating going on.

And yes, I saw that graphic that showed liberals are most biased against LDS, while conservs most biased against Muslims.

Well, I’m most biased against Scientology, but the Mormon Church does come in as a strong second.

6 Skip Intro  Jan 29, 2015 5:22:42pm

re: #4 Justanotherhuman

Romney will be president over my dead body.

Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

7 jaunte  Jan 29, 2015 5:24:04pm

“Respect for religious beliefs” is turning into a demand for bigotry without consequences.

8 Skip Intro  Jan 29, 2015 5:24:53pm

re: #1 Belafon

Since any law that would prevent criticism would be unconstitutional, I’m gonna say: Nope.

That was in the Old America. In the United States of Jesusland criticizing the church will no longer be allowed.

9 Jenner7  Jan 29, 2015 5:26:12pm

They want the “religious freedom” to use their religion to get the government to stop gay marriages.

Sorry, can’t do that. I’m SO glad I left that church over 20 years ago.

10 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 5:27:15pm

re: #5 Skip Intro

Well, I’m most biased against Scientology, but the Mormon Church does come in as a strong second.

Once you read Under the Banner of Heaven by Jon Krakauer.. if you are of the un-religious persuasion, you will never respect the religion part of LDS. Their community? Absolutely yes, but the religion is based on a huckster.

Oh and their huckster’s deep racism that they adhered to until not cool
what, the 80’s?

11 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 5:27:34pm

re: #6 Skip Intro

Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

I know it’s very early in the game, but Romney has 6 or 7 pts over Bush in a survey I saw on MSNBC, at 41%.

12 Shiplord Kirel  Jan 29, 2015 5:27:47pm

Let’s hope we don’t someday see President Cruz or (Cthuhu forbid) Romney signing the Religious Liberty Act of 2018, with a revamped SCOTUS to rubber stamp the new theocracy.

It is not impossible.

13 team_fukit  Jan 29, 2015 5:29:41pm

Have you ever noticed that no one wants to enforce a “sincerely held religious belief” to help anyone or do anything remotely kind or compassionate?

14 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 5:30:59pm

Oh Icy is up late! how are ya girl? We so miss you and Jimmah’s spice.

15 stpaulbear  Jan 29, 2015 5:31:27pm

re: #13 team_fukit

Have you ever noticed that no one wants to enforce a “sincerely held religious belief” to help anyone or do anything remotely kind or compassionate?

Jimmy Carter is doing a pretty good job of it.

16 klystron  Jan 29, 2015 5:33:08pm

Ok once the head mucky muck signs off on the papers he will finally be able to leave the hospital. He has gotten the nasty headache from the lumbar puncture. With luck that will go away sooner rather than later.

The next question is when does he come home and that is still unresolved. But I got his hotel for the night sorted out so he will have a place to sleep and take a shower that does not have the arcade game machine going in his ear all night long.

I do not want to think about the texting + phone bill I am running up.

17 Charles Johnson  Jan 29, 2015 5:33:31pm
18 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 5:34:25pm

re: #15 stpaulbear

Jimmy Carter is doing a pretty good job of it.

And he still catches hell for his presidency.

For all the religious fervor being thrown around by these so-called “christians”, they’d crucify Jesus Christ if he entertained the thought of running.

19 team_fukit  Jan 29, 2015 5:34:44pm

re: #15 stpaulbear

Carter’s not currently seeking additional legislation to support special religious rights, he’s just working in the already existing law which already does not prohibit religious exercise

20 Higgs Boson's Mate  Jan 29, 2015 5:35:06pm

re: #4 Justanotherhuman

Romney will be president over my dead body.

Low Information Voter 2016:
“He looks nice and he wants to help poor people.”
“She looks old and her husband screwed a Girl Scout while she watched.”

21 Shiplord Kirel  Jan 29, 2015 5:36:30pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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We can infer from this that ChuckC assumes that his target audience is ignorant of how libel works. He’s probably right. The other possibility is that he is that ignorant himself though surely an actual lawyer would have clued him by now.

22 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 5:36:48pm

re: #20 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Well, I’m member of that 47% and I will continually remind people that we don’t matter to a rich bastard like Romney and his fellow travelers.

23 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 29, 2015 5:37:10pm

Or:

Low Information Voter 2016:

“I’ve heard of her.”

“Didn’t he already lose once?”

24 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jan 29, 2015 5:38:34pm

re: #23 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Or:

Low Information Voter 2016:

“I’ve heard of her.”

“Didn’t he already lose once?”

Nixon lost once, too.

25 Charles Johnson  Jan 29, 2015 5:39:27pm

re: #21 Shiplord Kirel

We can infer from this that ChuckC assumes that his target audience is ignorant of how libel works. He’s probably right. The other possibility is that he is that ignorant himself though surely an actual lawyer would have clued him by now.

26 Skip Intro  Jan 29, 2015 5:39:32pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

He must be keeping an entire law firm busy with all of his suits. Hell, it’s probably multiple law firms, since he’s suing people in so many different states.

27 A Cranky One  Jan 29, 2015 5:40:48pm

re: #16 klystron

Very good news! Hope this means both of you will get some rest.

28 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 5:40:59pm

Charles Blow on Anderson Cooper right now.

29 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 5:41:33pm

“He did all the right things.”

30 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 29, 2015 5:42:24pm

I boiled the Amaretto syrup too long and it crystallized. :(

I guess I’ll just have to make some more.

31 klystron  Jan 29, 2015 5:42:26pm

re: #27 A Cranky One

Very good news! Hope this means both of you will get some rest.

Once he is situated and sleeping, I will do important things like a shower and figuring out food because the cold pizza will run out soon.

And then some sleep.

32 Charles Johnson  Jan 29, 2015 5:43:08pm
33 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 5:44:21pm

Uh-oh.

Editor’s note: There are several reports that the suspect in a fatal hit-and-run in Compton is music producer Suge Knight. At this point, authorities are still investigating the incident. According to Los Angeles Times reporter @TheRyanParker, police are aware of the reports and are reviewing video. - Jillian
end of note

latimes.com

34 Charles Johnson  Jan 29, 2015 5:47:21pm
35 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 5:47:50pm
36 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 5:49:33pm

Blasting Toto, Africa from my iPod and Bose sound dock.

Live it.

37 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 5:51:33pm

My upstairs neighb moved out. It’s been a free for all in noise.

38 klystron  Jan 29, 2015 5:52:17pm

The big cheese has signed off. He is freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I just want to thank all the Lizards again for their patience and support. It’s helped - and meant - a lot.

39 stpaulbear  Jan 29, 2015 5:54:18pm

re: #26 Skip Intro

He must be keeping an entire law firm busy with all of his suits. Hell, it’s probably multiple law firms, since he’s suing people in so many different states.

More likely he’s keeping the receptionist busy.

“No, I’m sorry, Mr. Dewey is not in this morning…..No, I’m afraid Mr. Cheetam is in a meeting….I’m sorry, no. Goodbye Mr Johnson’.

’ Hello. Oh hello, Mr. Johnson. No, I’m sorry, Mr. Howe is giving birth to his third child today…. He won’t be in until May. I’m sorry, Mr, Johnson. No….Umm, No. Best of luck to you, sir. Bless your heart…Goodbye.’

40 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 5:55:55pm

re: #38 klystron

The big cheese has signed off. He is freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I just want to thank all the Lizards again for their patience and support. It’s helped - and meant - a lot.

Will your hubby be flying home now? Glad to hear he’s been taken care of so expertly and is on the mend. : )

41 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 5:56:28pm

Woops.

42 lawhawk  Jan 29, 2015 5:57:24pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

That lawsuit clock was reset yesterday, with the threat of DCMA’ing you (which is really a DMCA action, but 158 IQ and all)

This just continues to reset the clock, back to zero. Just like officer involved shootings in the US. The clock can’t go for more than like 48 hours without resetting to zero.

43 klystron  Jan 29, 2015 5:57:45pm

re: #40 Justanotherhuman

Will your hubby be flying home now? Glad to hear he’s been taken care of so expertly and is on the mend. : )

Given that all of this was probably caused by sinus congestion, he is actually likely to stay in the UK longer to give his some time to clear up.

I wish he was coming home now but I can understand why he is very cautious about flying.

44 lawhawk  Jan 29, 2015 5:58:26pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Or is that shit your fuck the right up. /

45 Charles Johnson  Jan 29, 2015 6:00:39pm
46 Skip Intro  Jan 29, 2015 6:01:11pm

re: #41 Justanotherhuman

Woops.

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Damn! Call out the National Guard, stat! The Mooslems are invading San Diego!

47 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 29, 2015 6:02:27pm

re: #38 klystron

The big cheese has signed off. He is freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I just want to thank all the Lizards again for their patience and support. It’s helped - and meant - a lot.

Yea!!!! Now the important question… did you get the kitchen table cleaned up?

RBS

48 Charles Johnson  Jan 29, 2015 6:02:46pm
49 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 6:04:28pm

re: #43 klystron

Yeah, I thought about that after I had posted it. Has it happened before when he flew?

I use Flonase now when I get a sinus headache. Yes, it’s a steroid, but it really helps. And I hate taking anything that isn’t totally necessary.

50 klystron  Jan 29, 2015 6:05:40pm

re: #47 RealityBasedSteve

Yea!!!! Now the important question… did you get the kitchen table cleaned up?

RBS

No. >.>

re: #49 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, I thought about that after I had posted it. Has it happened before when he flew?

I use Flonase now when I get a sinus headache. Yes, it’s a steroid, but it really helps. And I hate taking anything that isn’t totally necessary.

This is the first time it’s ever happened. He was also seriously trying to develop a sinus infection right before leaving, though, had a prescription decongestant but may have forgotten to take another dose while on the plane. :/

51 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 6:07:50pm

Now I’m in Bye Bye Love, The Cars. Ya’ll remember that most excellent song?

And next to It’s All I Can Do.

RIP the most beautiful Ben Orr.

52 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 6:08:41pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

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Charles, you know those kind of people never go to jail. Nixon wasn’t jailed and he was a huge crook. His successor, Ford, pardoned him for any crime he committed. Neither did Cheney nor his sidekick, GWB, who lied about WMDs and should have been impeached as well.

53 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 6:09:25pm

Plugged in my obsolete iPod.

54 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 29, 2015 6:11:08pm

re: #50 klystron

No. >.>

This is the first time it’s ever happened. He was also seriously trying to develop a sinus infection right before leaving, though, had a prescription decongestant but may have forgotten to take another dose while on the plane. :/

Decongestants can be a two edged sword. If you start with clear sinuses and then they clog at altitude, the feeling can be not unlike an icepick into your skull.

I know a lot of people like the 12 hour nasal inhalers, they have the benefit of not wearing off in 4 hours and you getting hit with a decongestant bounce where now you’re worse off than if you had done nothing.

So glad that Mr Klys is doing better, and yes, your cell / text bill will probably be bigger than the hospital care bill.

Hugs to ya.

RBS

55 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 6:13:26pm

re: #53 #FergusonFireside

Plugged in my obsolete iPod.

Haha, I still listen to the radio or the music channels on TV. My grandson plugs in his playlists in his car and also a music app. Very different generations, and I still like classic rock the best. : )

56 klystron  Jan 29, 2015 6:17:42pm

re: #54 RealityBasedSteve

He had an inhaler version too. This just. I don’t know what happened.

On the plus side we now know there is absolutely nothing wrong with his brain, and there’s even photographic proof it exists.

57 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 6:17:51pm

I am living a very loud (the Bose dock was worth the $ even then - clear sound) memory lane.

Boston, 1st album now.

58 Decatur Deb  Jan 29, 2015 6:19:18pm

re: #53 #FergusonFireside

Plugged in my obsolete vintage iPod.

59 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 6:19:50pm

re: #57 #FergusonFireside

I am living a very loud (the Bose dock was worth the $ even then - clear sound) memory lane.

Boston, 1st album now.

You started something.

On fab headphones:

60 Decatur Deb  Jan 29, 2015 6:20:09pm

re: #56 klystron

He had an inhaler version too. This just. I don’t know what happened.

On the plus side we now know there is absolutely nothing wrong with his brain, and there’s even photographic proof it exists.

Are the pixels the same size?

61 klystron  Jan 29, 2015 6:20:41pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

Are the pixels the same size?

It’s true, I’m not sure I can trust photographic proof from the British.

62 A Cranky One  Jan 29, 2015 6:20:46pm

re: #56 klystron

He had an inhaler version too. This just. I don’t know what happened.

On the plus side we now know there is absolutely nothing wrong with his brain, and there’s even photographic proof it exists.

You said he was trying hard to get a sinus infection. Perhaps he needs a different hobby? ;)

63 thedopefishlives  Jan 29, 2015 6:21:16pm

Evening Lizardim.

64 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 29, 2015 6:21:20pm

re: #10 #FergusonFireside

Once you read Under the Banner of Heaven by Jon Krakauer.. if you are of the un-religious persuasion, you will never respect the religion part of LDS. Their community? Absolutely yes, but the religion is based on a huckster.

Of course. Like most religions.

65 Decatur Deb  Jan 29, 2015 6:22:30pm

re: #61 klystron

It’s true, I’m not sure I can trust photographic proof from the British.

Of course you can.

66 klystron  Jan 29, 2015 6:22:59pm

re: #63 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim.

Is it evening?

I no longer have any idea what day today is.

67 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 6:24:09pm

Money, it’s a hit. Don’t give me that good, good, good bullshit…

{Dancing in my chair}

68 thedopefishlives  Jan 29, 2015 6:24:20pm

re: #66 klystron

Is it evening?

I no longer have any idea what day today is.

It is almost Friday. And believe you me, you have NO IDEA how much I am looking forward to it.

69 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 29, 2015 6:24:26pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

I’m not a fan of Code Pink, but they’re right about Henry Kissinger. He should be in jail.

Ayep. And not only he, but also all the folks involved in Iran-Contra, in the deception that led to the Iraq war, and in torture.

70 Bubblehead II  Jan 29, 2015 6:25:22pm

re: #66 klystron

Is it evening?

I no longer have any idea what day today is.

It’s Sunday (In my little corner of the world).

71 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 6:25:38pm

re: #67 Justanotherhuman

Money, it’s a hit. Don’t give me that good, good, good bullshit…

{Dancing in my chair}

I am killing the calories in my house right now! Love music. Loud music.

72 klystron  Jan 29, 2015 6:26:32pm

So I will share this. It made me laugh last night. It is both hysterical and horrifying. Female Lizards especially are warned.

The opening excerpt:

Author’s Note: Told with permission. Nay, with encouragement. And it probably needs a trigger warning for horrible…medical…um…good god, I don’t even know.

73 thedopefishlives  Jan 29, 2015 6:28:59pm

re: #72 klystron

So I will share this. It made me laugh last night. It is both hysterical and horrifying. Female Lizards especially are warned.

The opening excerpt:

Words. I ran out of words. Argle bargle.

74 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 6:29:41pm

seen before?

75 klystron  Jan 29, 2015 6:29:57pm

re: #73 thedopefishlives

Words. I ran out of words. Argle bargle.

Now the quandry: do you share with Mrs. fish?

76 thedopefishlives  Jan 29, 2015 6:30:12pm

re: #75 klystron

Now the quandry: do you share with Mrs. fish?

Hell to the naw.

77 De Kolta Chair  Jan 29, 2015 6:30:25pm

re: #65 Decatur Deb

Embedded Image

Of course you can.

“Those pixies are as real as the ectoplasm on my face.” — Arthur Conan Doyle
78 thedopefishlives  Jan 29, 2015 6:30:59pm

re: #74 #FergusonFireside

seen before?

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Yawn. I’ll believe it when he actually sues somebody. Well, no, I’ll believe it when he successfully sues somebody. He might actually get the balls to file a suit, but winning one?

79 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 29, 2015 6:31:18pm

re: #72 klystron

.
.
.

80 ipsos  Jan 29, 2015 6:32:02pm

re: #74 #FergusonFireside

What about those who’ve truthfully said he shit on the floor? Do we get to get sued, too?

81 Justanotherhuman  Jan 29, 2015 6:33:36pm

re: #73 thedopefishlives

Hahahahahaha!

“Excuse me while my cervix builds a moat and puts bars on the windows.”

82 Decatur Deb  Jan 29, 2015 6:33:59pm

re: #77 De Kolta Chair

Note—the caption on the “Spy” version is different form the main thread.

83 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 6:34:35pm

This is a really cool night. When you re-discover your ipod. re: #81 Justanotherhuman

Hahahahahaha!

“Excuse me while my cervix builds a moat and puts bars on the windows.”

Not gonna read!!!

84 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 6:35:19pm

Charles, tell me you pulled out Boston. Listen again.

85 A Cranky One  Jan 29, 2015 6:35:34pm

re: #80 ipsos

What about those who’ve truthfully said he shit on the floor? Do we get to get sued, too?

He probably did at some point as a baby/toddler. Guess we’ll have to get his juvenile records! ////

86 ninja cat  Jan 29, 2015 6:35:45pm

It’s sad I first thought of CCJ when I read this. Shit really does sell.

87 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 6:38:21pm

re: #69 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Ayep. And not only he, but also all the folks involved in Iran-Contra, in the deception that led to the Iraq war, and in torture.

Not to mention Chile and all the other evils he made sure happened in the name of being “anti-communist”.

He’s a walking reason to want to believe in hell. May he spend eternity as roommate with Franco, Pinochet, Reagan & Thatcher.

88 Eventual Carrion  Jan 29, 2015 6:39:54pm

re: #37 #FergusonFireside

My upstairs neighb moved out. It’s been a free for all in noise.

My upstairs neighbors are all pissed off since I installed the skylight.

89 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 6:40:18pm

I always liked The Cars’ first album, especially the second side. (heh, figure that one out kids) WMMR and WYSP used to play Moving in Stereo and All Mixed Up as one.
When I was a freshman at Father Judge High School, the little bookstore had Dark Side of the Moon on constantly. Money was my least favorite song

90 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 6:40:58pm

re: #51 #FergusonFireside

Good stuff but I think I want something a bit harder. “Fire of Unknown Origin” anyone? Ah, yes, death in it’s Sunday Best ;)

91 A Cranky One  Jan 29, 2015 6:41:23pm

re: #72 klystron

The whole time I was reading that I could hear my mom’s voice. She’s said things like that in the past, with the same nonchalance. Ha.

Speaking of which I think I’ll give her a call.

But first, get away from your computer youngster! Food and nap now, or you’re grounded!

92 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 6:41:40pm

re: #90 William Barnett-Lewis

I’m not Googling. Was that Blue Oyster Cult?

93 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 6:42:55pm

re: #89 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I always liked The Cars’ first album, especially the second side. (heh, figure that one out kids) WMMR and WYSP used to play Moving in Stereo and All Mixed Up as one.
When I was a freshman at Father Judge High School, the little bookstore had Dark Side of the Moon on constantly. Money was my least favorite song

Oh give me a platform to talk about Ben Orr. He never got the cred, but he was the voice. It’s all good, but damn.

All Mixed Up is my favorite. There are several wonderful bar recordings on youtube.

He died way too soon.

94 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2015 6:43:24pm

re: #56 klystron

He had an inhaler version too. This just. I don’t know what happened.

On the plus side we now know there is absolutely nothing wrong with his brain, and there’s even photographic proof it exists.

that’s what MI5 wants you to believe…

95 Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 29, 2015 6:43:43pm

re: #86 ninja cat

It’s sad I first thought of CCJ when I read this. Shit really does sell.

That’s fascinating. You know, you really CAN find a use for just about anything if you are creative enough.

96 klystron  Jan 29, 2015 6:44:02pm

re: #91 A Cranky One

He is not at the hotel yet. :/ He should have just gone with a cab but instead he called the driver that his boss had arranged (which was silly, I know).

97 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 6:44:13pm

re: #92 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I’m not Googling. Was that Blue Oyster Cult?

Yep. Their 1981 album. The hit single was “Burning for You” but the title track was great (lyrics by Patti Smith) as were Veteran of the Psychic Wars & Joan Crawford.

98 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 6:44:44pm

re: #90 William Barnett-Lewis

Good stuff but I think I want something a bit harder. “Fire of Unknown Origin” anyone? Ah, yes, death in it’s Sunday Best ;)

I have so much old funk on here. Plus Pearl Jam, everything REM has done. We’ll see.

Bottom line, glad that TWEET made me pull it out of the closet.

99 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 6:45:50pm

Just Like Heaven, because it’s been for-fucking-ever.

100 The Vicious Babushka  Jan 29, 2015 6:46:30pm
101 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2015 6:49:07pm

re: #72 klystron

MOM: Plop.

OK, I’m laughing out loud now…

102 A Cranky One  Jan 29, 2015 6:49:11pm

Hey, we’ve got the rock and roll going.

Now where are the sex and drugs?

Oh, wait, there’s cake!

103 klystron  Jan 29, 2015 6:50:04pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

Her writing is just. It kills me.

She’s written about getting an IUD and it involves the Battle Hymn of the Republic.

104 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Jan 29, 2015 6:50:59pm

re: #53 #FergusonFireside

Plugged in my obsolete iPod.

I have a 128GB version that I will play until it wears out. I don’t consider it obsolete at all. Just another way for Apple to squeeze people into the smart phone/iPod touch system and streaming music, with all the lack of connectivity and monthly fees that entails.

105 makeitstop  Jan 29, 2015 6:56:20pm

re: #89 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I always liked The Cars’ first album, especially the second side. (heh, figure that one out kids) WMMR and WYSP used to play Moving in Stereo and All Mixed Up as one.

That would be ‘You’re All I’ve Got Tonight’ into ‘Moving in Stereo.’ The synth comes right in on the end of ‘YAIGT.’

It was easier for DJs to just let the record roll than to cue another record.

106 Swift2991  Jan 29, 2015 6:57:55pm

Elder Oaks, or is it Oaken Elders?

Well, when the earliest days of your religion involve fraud, murder and bigamy, what is your religious freedom?

107 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 6:58:59pm

Arc of a Diver - Stevie Winwood.

My ole iPod is a beaut. To me.

108 stpaulbear  Jan 29, 2015 7:00:45pm
Dual 1229 w/ Led Zeppelin 4 (Dutch pressing)

Never had an Ipod, but I’m still spinning vinyl on the turntable I bought in 1973, The automatic features are pretty well shot, but the motor was replaced about 20 years ago and it still works.

109 stpaulbear  Jan 29, 2015 7:02:28pm

Of course, now the thread is dead….

110 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:03:09pm

With you my love we’re going to raid the future
With you my love we’re going to stick up the past
We’ll hold today to ransom ‘til our quartz clock stop until yesterday

111 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:03:59pm

My shuffle went to Temptation Eyes.

I have a definite pull to melody.

112 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:06:36pm

re: #105 makeitstop

In Philadelphia it was always the last two tracks. I thought You’re All I’ve Got Tonight was on side one.

113 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:07:34pm

re: #110 #FergusonFireside

I never like When You See a Chance. (Maybe a 2 out of 5) But I LOVED Arc of a Diver. It’s my go-to song when I’m in a tailspin

114 makeitstop  Jan 29, 2015 7:08:52pm

re: #112 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

In Philadelphia it was always the last two tracks. I thought You’re All I’ve Got Tonight was on side one.

Sorry, wrong title. I meant ‘Bye Bye Love’ into ‘Moving in Stereo.’

‘YAIGT’ opens side 2.

115 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:09:43pm

re: #113 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I never like When You See a Chance. (Maybe a 2 out of 5) But I LOVED Arc of a Diver. It’s my go-to song when I’m in a tailspin

When you see a chance was the commercial attempt, praise $$.

Arc Of a Diver’s lyric’s are the best.

116 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:12:55pm

re: #114 makeitstop

Sorry, wrong title. I meant ‘Bye Bye Love’ into ‘Moving in Stereo.’

‘YAIGT’ opens side 2.

Really old story. We were 19 or something working at a finance co. They were the original sign you up for a gym membership, oops! yo;ve signed a loan. And that loan will collect.

Well one week, we were told to show up on the weekend for something. We left a note on our desk “Bye Bye Love”

I worship the Cars. Always.

117 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:19:21pm

re: #116 #FergusonFireside

Now that you mention it, the three songs transition very smoothly, but in my neighborhood it was the last two. Oh yeah,

118 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 7:20:10pm

The Pretenders. Best album of 1980. Ah, too precious.

119 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:21:46pm

re: #117 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Now that you mention it, the three songs transition very smoothly, but in my neighborhood it was the last two. Oh yeah,

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Video

I have actually selected the artist: REO Speedwagon.

This iPod reunion has been epic.

120 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:22:01pm

re: #118 William Barnett-Lewis

Drama by Yes. Loved Machine Messiah. After that I got YesSongs. That was so much better than the studio versions.

121 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:23:04pm

re: #118 William Barnett-Lewis

The Pretenders. Best album of 1980. Ah, too precious.

Missed this. Oh yeah. I saw them twice.

122 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:25:17pm

re: #118 William Barnett-Lewis

The Pretenders. Best album of 1980. Ah, too precious.

Go to my iPod, surprised I don’t have Precious. Only Tattooed Love Boys, The Wait & Mystery Achievement.

I kinda failed when I could download this shit.

123 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:26:23pm

re: #119 #FergusonFireside

They had a pretty good run.
Somebody upstairs mentioned Boston. I was lukewarm to them but one of the songs I liked back then was A Man I’ll Never Be. Decades went by and I had almost forgotten about it until I heard in at a Trader Joes store. For some reason, well, I know the reason, the lid I thought I had bolted down on everything in my head for 25 years came off right in the middle of the store. Yikes.

124 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:28:02pm

Funny thing about my Ipod is I have more Carpenters than Led Zepellin. I also have a lot of Jethro Tull. It’s kind of funny where I drew the line of what I wanted to put in my library and what stuff I thought I’d heard a thousand times too many.

125 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:28:05pm

re: #123 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

They had a pretty good run.
Somebody upstairs mentioned Boston. I was lukewarm to them but one of the songs I liked back then was A Man I’ll Never Be. Decades went by and I had almost forgotten about it until I heard in at a Trader Joes store. For some reason, well, I know the reason, the lid I thought I had bolted down on everything in my head for 25 years came off right in the middle of the store. Yikes.

Chill, relax & realize that our music is now old music. Still great as hell.

126 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:28:50pm

IO often wonder why I can’t relate to today’s music and I have a couple ideas…

127 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:29:45pm

re: #124 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Funny thing about my Ipod is I have more Carpenters than Led Zepellin. I also have a lot of Jethro Tull. It’s kind of funny where I drew the line of what I wanted to put in my library and what stuff I thought I’d heard a thousand times too many.

I love love the Carpenters. I have none of their stuff saved. Jeeze, you listen back to that & Karen’s voice was so pure.

128 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 7:31:14pm

re: #123 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Been there, done that. Usually it’s when I hear “Solsbury Hill” by Peter Gabriel but I can easily imagine that song doing it too.

129 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:31:51pm

First, we picked and chose the favorites (and discarded the detritus) of our youth. It’s easy to forget that there were songs like Fat Bottomed Girls . Sorry to bring that back:)
Second, these songs are the soundtrack of the most profound years of our lives. Today’s stuff may have some good songs, but they can’t compete with our memories.

130 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 7:32:24pm

re: #127 #FergusonFireside

I love love the Carpenters. I have none of their stuff saved. Jeeze, you listen back to that & Karen’s voice was so pure.

Only one of theirs I keep available is Superstar. That’s gave an insight to what they might have been if they’d let their hair down more and let her drum.

131 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:33:06pm

re: #129 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

First, we picked and chose the favorites (and discarded the detritus) of our youth. It’s easy to forget that there were songs like Fat Bottomed Girls . Sorry to bring that back:)
Second, these songs are the soundtrack of the most profound years of our lives. Today’s stuff may have some good songs, but they can’t compete with our memories.

Music is the key to memories.

132 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:33:29pm

re: #127 #FergusonFireside

I love love the Carpenters. I have none of their stuff saved. Jeeze, you listen back to that & Karen’s voice was so pure.

I played a Carpenter’s greatest hits CD in my daughter’s room to drown out outside noise when I’d put her to bed. She still sings along.

133 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:34:22pm

re: #130 William Barnett-Lewis

Only one of theirs I keep available is Superstar. That’s gave an insight to what they might have been if they’d let their hair down more and let her drum.

Superstar, even when I was young hearing it, was an epic song. Post it?

134 RealityBasedSteve  Jan 29, 2015 7:34:22pm

re: #66 klystron

Is it evening?

I no longer have any idea what day today is.

It’s Thursday, I know that because VB posted a cake picture.

RBS

135 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:34:24pm

re: #130 William Barnett-Lewis

Only one of theirs I keep available is Superstar. That’s gave an insight to what they might have been if they’d let their hair down more and let her drum.

Don’t forget the fuzzy guitar on Goodbye to Love.

136 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 7:36:10pm

re: #133 #FergusonFireside

Superstar, even when I was young hearing it, was an epic song. Post it?

137 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:36:37pm

re: #135 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Don’t forget the fuzzy guitar on Goodbye to Love.

The Carpenters. Where is the tribute.

138 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:37:40pm

re: #136 William Barnett-Lewis

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Thank you, watching. Keep this music thread rolling LGF.

139 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:38:40pm

It’s actually rolling faster than the current one!

140 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 7:39:13pm

re: #137 #FergusonFireside

The Carpenters. Where is the tribute.

Excellent one was done a few years back “If I were a Carpenter” - the cover of Superstar by Sonic Youth is killer.

141 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:39:52pm

That boy’s enjoying himself

142 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 7:40:13pm

143 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:40:15pm

re: #136 William Barnett-Lewis

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Video

Saddest song. Greatest song..

144 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 29, 2015 7:40:15pm

I’ve never come closer to creaming my jeans from any song than the first time I heard Karen sing Masquerade.

I know, they’re uncool, but DAMN! she had a sexy voice.

145 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 7:40:54pm

146 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 7:43:15pm

Well, this masquerade then…

147 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:43:49pm

re: #141 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

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Video

Well, that’s a sad song I’ve never heard. :(

148 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:43:51pm

Smooth as silk

149 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 29, 2015 7:45:26pm

re: #146 William Barnett-Lewis

Well, this masquerade then…

[Embedded content]

Thanks! I always forget the “This” looking it up.

150 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:45:28pm

re: #147 #FergusonFireside

Well, that’s a sad song I’ve never heard. :(

Yeah, now that you mention it

151 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:47:36pm

re: #145 William Barnett-Lewis

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Video

Love this.

To make me still love you. stop your sobbing.

152 retired cynic  Jan 29, 2015 7:48:50pm

re: #141 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Weep. For what could have been.

153 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:49:24pm

re: #148 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

[Embedded content]

Video

Smooth as silk

Listening. Remembering this one. Holy holy hell.

154 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:50:26pm

re: #151 #FergusonFireside

I always think of the Kinks. Then I remembered their Low Budget album. Now THAT was a great album

155 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:52:43pm

Music thread continues Please. I dont want no politics

156 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 7:53:37pm

Oh, the Kinks…

My two favorites:

157 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:56:12pm

re: #156 William Barnett-Lewis

Love those two.

THere was a lot of bad shit at that time, but the good stuff was great.

158 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:57:36pm

Dave Davies was the subject of a lecture in my philosophy class a couple of years ago. He had an epiphany of sorts

159 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:58:05pm

1978

The Cars

160 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:58:21pm

re: #155 #FergusonFireside

Music thread continues Please. I dont want no politics

Just the usual CCJ shit.

161 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 7:58:47pm

So epic.

162 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:59:09pm
163 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 7:59:43pm

Never understood how you could play a guitar left handed.

164 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:02:39pm

THose guys on the next door thread are missing some good stuff.

165 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 8:04:35pm

Looking at my ole iPod. I’m finding a lot of FUNK Heh.

166 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 8:06:07pm

One more Kinks tune…

167 makeitstop  Jan 29, 2015 8:07:25pm

re: #136 William Barnett-Lewis

[Embedded content]

Legend has it that Karen’s vocal for that song was done in one take.

168 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:08:01pm

re: #166 William Barnett-Lewis

The One More from the Road version really put that song on the map.

169 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 8:08:31pm

And then the song of my heart…

Off to work for my living. Have a great night, folks.

170 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:08:54pm

Sidestepping a little,

171 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 8:09:34pm

re: #167 makeitstop

Legend has it that Karen’s vocal for that song was done in one take.

I could believe that. She nailed it to the wall like few ever have gotten a song.

172 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:12:36pm

re: #169 William Barnett-Lewis

Funny thing, I didn’t really relate the Sledgehammer music or the videos.

173 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 8:17:09pm

re: #171 William Barnett-Lewis

I could believe that. She nailed it to the wall like few ever have gotten a song.

I just listened again. Yep.

174 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 8:17:19pm

re: #172 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Funny thing, I didn’t really relate the Sledgehammer music or the videos.

Yeah, this song was written to explain why he walked away from Genesis. The others were just him being artsy fartsy. I liked them but it was a whole different level than his exquisite three untitled solo LPs.

175 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:19:10pm

I wa thinking today about a few songs that are perfectly sung. Not necessarily the greatest songs, but like I said, sung about as good as can be:
Love of My Life by Queen
The Best of Times by Styx
You See Me Crying by Aerosmith
Summer Highland Falls by Billy Joel
Thunder Road by Bruce
Ashes to Ashes by David Bowie

come to mind

176 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 8:20:41pm

re: #174 William Barnett-Lewis

Yeah, this song was written to explain why he walked away from Genesis. The others were just him being artsy fartsy. I liked them but it was a whole different level than his exquisite three untitled solo LPs.

What’s your op on Phil’s 30 yr anniversary of No Jacket Required.

As a young college female at that time. Some of those songs are my life songs,

177 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 8:22:28pm

re: #175 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I wa thinking today about a few songs that are perfectly sung. Not necessarily the greatest songs, but like I said, sung about as good as can be:
Love of My Life by Queen
The Best of Times by Styx
You See Me Crying by Aerosmith
Summer Highland Falls by Billy Joel
Thunder Road by Bruce
Ashes to Ashes by David Bowie

come to mind

First time on a blog I’ve ever seen “love of my life”

Yes, I know that beatuiful song.

178 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 8:22:38pm

re: #175 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I wa thinking today about a few songs that are perfectly sung. Not necessarily the greatest songs, but like I said, sung about as good as can be:
Love of My Life by Queen
The Best of Times by Styx
You See Me Crying by Aerosmith
Summer Highland Falls by Billy Joel
Thunder Road by Bruce
Ashes to Ashes by David Bowie

come to mind

Born in the USA by Springsteen as well.

179 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 29, 2015 8:22:55pm

Ann Wilson had a helluva voice when Heart used to be at the Aquarius Tavern every Friday night….

180 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:23:27pm

re: #176 #FergusonFireside

I’m trying to think of a nice way to say that Phil’s solo stuff was, well, um, not really, suited to my taste. But there are plenty of Genesis songs where his singing is really dynamic.

181 A Cranky One  Jan 29, 2015 8:23:36pm

re: #163 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Never understood how you could play a guitar left handed.

Most left handed players restring the guitar so that the strings are in the same order as they are for right handed players (Low E closest to your head). However, there are some exceptions. Doyle Bramhall II plays with Clapton a lot, and his guitar is strung for right handed players.

He’s a great guitarist and has a unique sound because of how he plays. I play guitar and love to watch other guitarists play; you always learn things. Saw Doyle with Clapton and got a headache watching him, because everything was backwards and upside down. Ouch. Didn’t seem to bother Clapton though.

182 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 8:25:50pm

re: #180 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I’m trying to think of a nice way to say that Phil’s solo stuff was, well, um, not really, suited to my taste. But there are plenty of Genesis songs where his singing is really dynamic.

Phil = girl’s angst.

183 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:26:05pm

re: #181 A Cranky One

I would think watching somebody play like that would set you back a bit/ I can’t imagine how guys like Jerry Garcia can play clean music with those big fat fingers.

184 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 8:26:22pm

re: #176 #FergusonFireside

What’s your op on Phil’s 30 yr anniversary of No Jacket Required.

As a young college female at that time. Some of those songs are my life songs,

He was a great drummer but the music he did was pure pop. Nothing wrong with that but it didn’t stick to me the way other things did - The Replacements “Let it Be” or Husker Du “New Day Rising” and “Flip Your Wig” which were the sounds of my life then.

185 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:26:44pm

I can’t imagine the feeling that you could pick up an instrument and play anything you want.

186 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 8:26:49pm

Post something or I’m going all Phil

187 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:27:51pm

re: #186 #FergusonFireside

Post something or I’m going all Phil

EEK!!

188 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 8:28:02pm

189 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 8:28:59pm

re: #187 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

good

190 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:29:33pm
191 A Cranky One  Jan 29, 2015 8:30:21pm

re: #183 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

It was disorienting but he sounded great and I could watch Clapton so all was good. Hard to be unhappy listening to Clapton in a smaller venue!

192 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 8:30:39pm

And as I’m out the door, it’s a new day rising…

193 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:32:13pm

re: #191 A Cranky One

You know what I couldn’t understand about Eric Clapton? All the recordings I see of Layla are really subdued. Usually a concert performance has more vitality than the studio, but that happens a lot with Eric Clapton stuff

194 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:32:39pm

re: #192 William Barnett-Lewis

Didn’t you try to sneak out a half hour ago?

195 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 8:33:05pm

re: #194 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Didn’t you try to sneak out a half hour ago?

Letting the van warm up :D

196 William Barnett-Lewis  Jan 29, 2015 8:33:24pm

Bye!

197 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:33:37pm

Actualy I have a lot of work to do to:(

198 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 8:34:01pm

re: #190 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

lol play it

199 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:36:14pm

re: #198 #FergusonFireside

lol play it

Opps, I slipped. Anyway, I hate to say it, but it’s time to go. I’m bookmarking this thread to come back to click on the videos over the weekend. This was the best dead thread ever.

200 makeitstop  Jan 29, 2015 8:36:22pm

The only Genesis album, post Gabriel, that did anything for me was A Trick Of The Tail. This song in particular:

I saw them on that tour at the Tower Theater in Philly. Chester Thompson played drums for most of the night - but Phil’s drum rig was set up as well. Chester on the left, Phil on the right.

When they did ‘Los Endos,’ both Phil and Chester played. It was mighty.

201 makeitstop  Jan 29, 2015 8:37:53pm

PS: I’d kill for that double-neck Rickenbacker Rutherford is playing.

202 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:38:01pm

re: #200 makeitstop

The only Genesis album, post Gabriel, that did anything for me was A Trick Of The Tail. This song in particular:

[Embedded content]

They were easy to tell apart!! I liked the piano in Ripples. I also like Duke. Abacab has some good songs now that I think of it.

203 A Cranky One  Jan 29, 2015 8:39:06pm

re: #193 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Well, he has performed it like a gazillion times. But still plays it to make the fans happy. And as a fan, I appreciate it!

204 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:39:13pm

This dead thread is still going faster than the live one

205 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 8:41:41pm

206 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 8:42:01pm

re: #204 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

This dead thread is still going faster than the live one

m u s i c

207 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:44:30pm

Here’s a real upgraded version of a Queen song. The way it should be, four guys wailing away. On Killers, it’s ok, but so much more pizazz here.

208 #FergusonFireside  Jan 29, 2015 8:44:34pm

OK, Old Phil Collins.

Anyone remember the album Hello I Must Be Going?

listening now.

209 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:44:53pm

re: #206 #FergusonFireside

GOOD m u s i c

210 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Jan 29, 2015 8:46:06pm

re: #208 #FergusonFireside

OK, Old Phil Collins.

Anyone remember the album Hello I Must Be Going?

listening now.

Oh Stanley!

211 CleverToad  Jan 29, 2015 9:01:53pm

Supposed to be asleep an hour ago, but there’s music going on. The Carpenters. Goodbye to Love. Road Ode. Rainy Days and Mondays. Yeah, and Superstar.

Wrote a novel set in 1973 — there are refs to 140 songs, mostly just titles. Can’t publish till I try to get permissions for about 20 songs with major quotes, esp. Rocky Mountain High & Sweet Baby James. Includes Goodbye to Love, and Let Me Be the One.

This thread is giving me earworms. Have to get out the iPod for tomorrow’s commute…


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