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1 Charles Johnson  Feb 2, 2015 10:27:42pm

Check my Twitter timeline if you’re curious.

2 Charles Johnson  Feb 2, 2015 10:29:23pm
3 Amory Blaine  Feb 2, 2015 10:34:47pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

re: #2 Charles Johnson

JT: Stop questioning my greatness!!! Goodnight sir!!!

4 Gus  Feb 2, 2015 10:34:54pm

The idiot wind.

5 goddamnedfrank  Feb 2, 2015 10:36:27pm
6 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 2, 2015 10:36:44pm

Don’t look now, but Sharyl Attkisson is an anti-vaxxer nut:

sharylattkisson. com/where-are-the-autistic-amish/

7 Amory Blaine  Feb 2, 2015 10:41:51pm

re: #6 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

The obvious difference is there are many scientific studies supporting a link between vaccines and autism-often unreported, under-reported or dismissed by pharmaceutical interests and vaccine activists who have long fought a PR campaign to falsely portray the studies and researchers as “anti-vaccine.”

Stylish
8 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 2, 2015 10:44:04pm

Tapper, of course, isn’t a journalist. Example:

mediamatters.org

9 Charles Johnson  Feb 2, 2015 10:44:05pm
10 Teukka  Feb 2, 2015 10:57:51pm

I hope this isn’t too OTT:

11 Amory Blaine  Feb 2, 2015 10:58:08pm

As priorities shift, corrections budget passes UW System

In 2011, Wisconsin state spending quietly hit a milestone: For the first time, the state budgeted more taxpayer dollars for prisons and correctional facilities than for the University of Wisconsin System.

For 2011-‘13, Gov. Scott Walker and GOP lawmakers allotted just under $2.1 billion to the state’s public universities and $2.25 billion to the Department of Corrections. It’s a gap that is unlikely to close any time soon.

It’s also not the work of a single budget and not the decision of a single party. Rather, the gap is the culmination of years of policy changes and shifting priorities, spanning Democratic and Republican governors, crisscrossing political lines and reflecting national trends, a Journal Sentinel analysis of more than 20 years of state budgets shows.

12 freetoken  Feb 2, 2015 11:32:41pm
13 Lidane  Feb 2, 2015 11:43:15pm

That’s a plan:

14 goddamnedfrank  Feb 2, 2015 11:54:55pm

I’m in the pocket of Big Calculator.

15 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 3, 2015 12:20:42am

The Rude Pundit: Vaccinate Your Fucking Kids.

16 BeachDem  Feb 3, 2015 12:28:03am

re: #15 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Rude Pundit: Vaccinate Your Fucking Kids.

That is pretty close to perfection. My favorite line:

Your stupidity, your ignorance, your fear is not just your own when others have to suffer for it.

17 goddamnedfrank  Feb 3, 2015 12:36:06am

When you’re trying to discuss statistical reality and are asked for an anecdote.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

18 BadExampleMan  Feb 3, 2015 12:48:51am

Because of the time difference I’m hardly ever able to participate in the day’s threads, but if possible I always make time to read at least partway through the comments when I get up in the morning. Today is exhibit A; I saw the Vox story pop up before I went to bed, but by the time I woke up you all had done the work of debunking and pushing back against it.

Well done, Lizardim. (BTW, 2 questions: where does the nickname come from, and why is it pluralized like a masculine Hebrew noun?)

19 freetoken  Feb 3, 2015 1:24:15am

Moody Japanese music I love, especially when it can seem to bridge traditional and post-war westernization. No one did it better than these guys. Here’s a song I like because it seems complete, a sort of a journey, unusual compared to the usual fare of short pieces:

MP3 Audio

20 freetoken  Feb 3, 2015 1:25:07am

There’s something about pairing a flute with a male quartet that I find very fetching.

21 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 1:56:12am

re: #18 BadExampleMan

Because of the time difference I’m hardly ever able to participate in the day’s threads, but if possible I always make time to read at least partway through the comments when I get up in the morning. Today is exhibit A; I saw the Vox story pop up before I went to bed, but by the time I woke up you all had done the work of debunking and pushing back against it.

Well done, Lizardim. (BTW, 2 questions: where does the nickname come from, and why is it pluralized like a masculine Hebrew noun?)

Lounge Lizards, and my guess is that the plural either comes from the Arabic or the language of Dune

22 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 2:42:46am

re: #20 freetoken

There’s something about pairing a flute with a male quartet that I find very fetching.

Before “fusion” was a food:

23 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 2:55:14am

re: #15 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The Rude Pundit: Vaccinate Your Fucking Kids.

I like his style—a warmer, gentler drill sergeant (of the old school, not the preacher’s sons we have now).

24 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 3:12:13am

Carson is toast:

Dr. Ben Carson, a prospective Republican presidential candidate, said Monday people should not be allowed to refuse vaccines on religious or philosophical grounds.
“Although I strongly believe in individual rights and the rights of parents to raise their children as they see fit, I also recognize that public health and public safety are extremely important in our society,”

How dare he agree with Obama on anything and still brand himself the “Anti-Obama”?

25 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 3:25:00am

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I liked a comment there:

This is a medial genius who believes in most big government conspiracies. He’s telling you this is NOT some government conspiracy. For fucks sake, listen to him.

26 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 3:29:40am

re: #18 BadExampleMan

Well done, Lizardim. (BTW, 2 questions: where does the nickname come from, and why is it pluralized like a masculine Hebrew noun?)

Could be from the old “Zionist paycheck” days ;)

28 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 3:44:29am

re: #27 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Yet another one…

Ukraine run by ‘miserable’ Jews: rebel chief

Note to that “Fascist Junta” supposedly running the Ukraine…move over, you have been overtaken on the right…

29 Amory Blaine  Feb 3, 2015 3:57:48am

re: #18 BadExampleMan

Lizard 101 - The Truth About ‘LFG’ and The Terrible Secret of ‘LFG’
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30 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 3, 2015 4:04:57am

@GotNwes is back with more translations from UpChuck-speak

BREAKING: Obama spokeswoman says something different about Saudi Arabia from her master’s thesis

He’s done this same thing a few times now. He doesn’t seem to understand a master’s thesis is just a major assignment to get a degree, not the blueprint for the rest of a person’s life.

Had he done one himself, he might understand that.

31 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 4:12:46am

re: #29 Amory Blaine

What a pity that Reine’s twitter these days is a steady stream of the wingnut agitprop.

32 thedopefishlives  Feb 3, 2015 4:15:49am

re: #18 BadExampleMan

Because of the time difference I’m hardly ever able to participate in the day’s threads, but if possible I always make time to read at least partway through the comments when I get up in the morning. Today is exhibit A; I saw the Vox story pop up before I went to bed, but by the time I woke up you all had done the work of debunking and pushing back against it.

Well done, Lizardim. (BTW, 2 questions: where does the nickname come from, and why is it pluralized like a masculine Hebrew noun?)

I can’t remember exactly how the pluralization “Lizardim” started. I know I picked up its use early, but whether I started it or not, I can’t say. I’m pretty sure it has its roots in the fact that in the olden days, everybody believed LGF was a bunch of sellouts to the ebil Zionists.

33 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 4:18:08am

re: #31 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

What a pity that Reine’s twitter these days is a steady stream of the wingnut agitprop.

Sorry to hear. She was pleasant, and a yeoman during the BP spill.

34 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 4:18:50am

re: #33 Decatur Deb

“My cat is sad, because…”

35 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 4:22:26am

re: #34 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

“My cat is sad, because…”

Some of our lost lizards were just assholes, but many were fun people reacting to what they saw as hostility. Walter had a lot of use left in him.

36 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 3, 2015 4:30:52am

re: #35 Decatur Deb

Some of our lost lizards were just assholes, but many were fun people reacting to what they saw as hostility. Walter had a lot of use left in him.

Walter was pretty hostile himself at times. My first comment interaction with him set off one of his tirades.

I think Reine also got sick of being caught up in “The South is evil” meme that gets rolled out without many caveats. Especially after Spencer or one of that ilk says something.

But I’m a relative youngster here, so what do I know. ;P

(Good morning to everyone as well. 20 F out and clear. My preferred winter weather actually. As compared to the 35 F with rain and cloud that the Northeast seems to have set as the standard.)

37 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 4:32:06am

re: #35 Decatur Deb

I used to like him. Until he’d shown his true face.

38 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 4:34:06am

re: #37 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I used to like him. Until he’d shown his true face.

He was a literate carny. You’re not going to get a lot of chances to learn from them.

39 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 4:37:06am

re: #38 Decatur Deb

You probably never read what he wrote after he had left. Anyway, let’s close this topic.

40 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 4:37:28am
41 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 4:39:30am

Then they turn around and ask: “Why so angry?”

42 thedopefishlives  Feb 3, 2015 4:45:27am

re: #41 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Then they turn around and ask: “Why so angry?”

I don’t really understand how Christians think ramming their religion down everyone’s throat is following Jesus’ example. Pretty sure he never demanded that anyone take down a billboard and put up a Jesus sign instead.

43 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 4:47:58am

re: #40 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Because freedom of speech!

Angry Christians Force Removal of Atheist Billboard

Haven’t encountered the CoR group—Mobile is at the other side of the state. We frequently drive by this classic from the linked collection:
Image: bb-christian17.jpg

It’s near the Second Largest Confederate Flag in the World.*

*SCV artifact near Clanton AL.

44 Dark_Falcon  Feb 3, 2015 4:51:31am

re: #36 Feline Fearless Leader

Walter was pretty hostile himself at times. My first comment interaction with him set off one of his tirades.

I think Reine also got sick of being caught up in “The South is evil” meme that gets rolled out without many caveats. Especially after Spencer or one of that ilk says something.

But I’m a relative youngster here, so what do I know. ;P

(Good morning to everyone as well. 20 F out and clear. My preferred winter weather actually. As compared to the 35 F with rain and cloud that the Northeast seems to have set as the standard.)

It’s one of the problems when a discussion is dominated by one side of the political aisle: Things often get to discussions about just how stupid/evil the ‘other side’ is. And if you’re part of the ‘other side’, it gets pretty annoying fast. Honestly, folks here tick me off a great deal when they use “the rubes” as a shorthand for conservative voters.

45 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 4:53:02am

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

It’s one of the problems when a discussion is dominated by one side of the political aisle: Things often get to discussions about just how stupid/evil the ‘other side’ is. And if you’re part of the ‘other side’, it gets pretty annoying fast. Honestly, folks here tick me off a great deal when they use “the rubes” as a shorthand for conservative voters.

But “benighted compatriots” sounds so stilted.

46 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 4:54:32am
47 Dark_Falcon  Feb 3, 2015 4:56:44am

Sorry to run, but work beckons. But before I go, I going to do so thing many of you wouldn’t have thought possible in 2015: I’m going to get you to cheer on Lindsey Lohan. And all I need is this one post:

Lindsay Lohan Sues Fox News over Hannity Guest’s Cocaine Comments

Nearly one year after contributor Michelle Fields said on Hannity that Lindsay Lohan’s “mom is doing cocaine with her,” the actress and her mother Dina Lohan, have reportedly decided to sue Fox News for defamation.

Following Fields’ comment, which was made during a discussion following the heroin overdose death of Philip Seymour Hoffman, Lohan’s lawyers sent Fox a cease and desist letter called the remark “outrageously slanderous and defamatory.”

But now, the mother and daughter pair have decided to sue the network, claiming they trafficked in “malicious innuendo” against them. The paper, filed in a Manhattan court on Monday, say Fields “falsely, inappropriately and shockingly stated, unequivocally and as a ‘matter of fact’ that ‘Lindsay Lohan’s mother is doing cocaine with her.’”

Sean Hannity’s show has become a blight, and I hope the Lohans put a hurt on him for the lies he let his guest tell. I’d prefer Paris nail him for the ‘no-go zones’ crap, but I’ll settle for his getting smacked over this.

BBL

48 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 4:57:35am

re: #27 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Yet another one…

Ukraine run by ‘miserable’ Jews: rebel chief

He seems nice.

49 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 5:00:42am

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

He seems nice.

“…an apparent anti-Semitic jibe…”

50 BadExampleMan  Feb 3, 2015 5:05:56am

re: #29 Amory Blaine

Lizard 101 - The Truth About ‘LFG’ and The Terrible Secret of ‘LFG’
Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

Faskinating!

51 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 5:10:41am

We’ll have to change the “No Occupation” T-shirt to “Don’t Tread On Me” or some other wingnut slogan.

His gamy buttocks are mine!
52 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 5:10:59am

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

It’s one of the problems when a discussion is dominated by one side of the political aisle: Things often get to discussions about just how stupid/evil the ‘other side’ is. And if you’re part of the ‘other side’, it gets pretty annoying fast. Honestly, folks here tick me off a great deal when they use “the rubes” as a shorthand for conservative voters.

Yeah, I know what you mean…it ticks me off a great deal when right-wingers refer to Democratic Voters as “socialist”, “communist”, “fascist”, “moochers”, “anti-American”, “gun grabbers”, “thugs”, “Alinskyites”, “takers”, “Obamabots”, etc.

53 aagcobb  Feb 3, 2015 5:11:36am

Latest NFL crime report: NFL Network analyst and Hall of Famer Warren Sapp was arrested for alleged assault of a prostitute, and immediately terminated from his job by the NFL Network. He has two previous charges of domestic violence in 2010 and 2014

54 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 5:15:04am
55 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 5:15:33am

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

He seems nice.

Because they’re “antifascists” and stuff.

And being serious for a second here, some of them do explain it as “fighting against the Jewish fascism”. So, yeah, just because someone calls themselves an antifascist…

56 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 5:16:48am

re: #55 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Because they’re “antifascists” and stuff.

And being serious for a second here, some of them do explain it as “fighting against the Jewish fascism”. So, yeah, just because someone calls themselves an antifascist…

Is “antifascist” something like “Anti-racist means anti-White”?

57 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 5:18:57am

re: #56 The Vicious Babushka

Normally no. But in the context of the Ukrainian-Russian situation someone on the R side proclaiming his “antifascism” can easily hold neo-fascist views, including antisemitism.

PS: I’m not saying “likely”, but you can read that between the lines ;)

58 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 5:20:24am

re: #57 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Normally no. But in the context of the Ukrainian-Russian situation someone on the R side proclaiming his “antifascism” can easily hold neo-fascist views, including antisemitism.

PS: I’m not saying “likely”, but you can read that between the lines ;)

I’ll take your word for it, you are much more informed on the Ukrainian situation than I am.

59 RadicalModerate  Feb 3, 2015 5:26:18am

Caught this story on CNN last night - it’s one of those pieces that I found highly inspiring at first, then ended up infuriating me beyond belief.

Donations pour in for Detroit man who walks 21 miles for his daily commute

Yes, you read that right. Over twenty miles. Every day.

But for the past decade, ever since his car broke down, he has trudged the better part of a marathon each workday. Rain, snow or shine.
That could be about to change.
After reading the Detroit Free Press article, some people felt moved to set up online fundraising efforts to buy Robertson a new car.
The donations have come flooding in.
A fundraiser on GoFundMe has blown past its original goal of $5,000, reaching a total of more than $125,000, as of early Tuesday.

And now for the part that will have you screaming at your monitor.

The Detroit Free Press profile of Robertson portrays him as a quiet man with a work ethic that would put anyone to shame.

“I set our attendance standard by this man,” Todd Wilson, plant manager at the engineering factory, told the newspaper. “I say, if this man can get here, walking all those miles through snow and rain, well I’ll tell you, I have people in Pontiac 10 minutes away and they say they can’t get here — bull!”

Robertson apparently has perfect attendance record. He earns $10.55 an hour — not enough to save up to buy, insure and run a car in the city, according to the newspaper.

Ten years of company loyalty and perfect attendance earns you two whole dollars above minimum wage with this factory? And the manager for this place just takes the cake for asshat bosses in my opinion.

60 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 5:27:47am

re: #58 The Vicious Babushka

“Antifascism” in Putin’s Russia is but a rhetorical device. “Fascism” in this sense is limited to Hitler, “antifascism” to USSR’s struggle against Hitler, so one can be an “antifascist” as long as one supports that struggle, even if they hold the most Neanderthal antisemitic, pro-dictatorial, racist/anti-minority, anti-liberal views. Which is why you see a self-proclaimed leader of the “Donbass antifascist struggle” Zakharchenko blaming the Jews, which is only the latest in a long series of such statements by various “rebel” figures.

61 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 5:30:27am

re: #59 RadicalModerate

Caught this story on CNN last night - it’s one of those pieces that I found highly inspiring at first, then ended up infuriating me beyond belief.

Donations pour in for Detroit man who walks 21 miles for his daily commute

Yes, you read that right. Over twenty miles. Every day.

He commutes 21 miles but he doesn’t walk the entire distance. He takes the bus and then hikes 5 miles.

Still that’s a long walk and yes it’s outrageous he’s paid shit. They need a union at that shop.

62 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 5:32:09am

re: #59 RadicalModerate

Caught this story on CNN last night - it’s one of those pieces that I found highly inspiring at first, then ended up infuriating me beyond belief.

Donations pour in for Detroit man who walks 21 miles for his daily commute

Yes, you read that right. Over twenty miles. Every day.

And now for the part that will have you screaming at your monitor.

Ten years of company loyalty and perfect attendance earns you two whole dollars above minimum wage with this factory? And the manager for this place just takes the cake for asshat bosses in my opinion.

Lot’s of weird in that story, besides the prick boss. At a reasonable pace that’s 6 hours of walking each day. Is a car in the city even the best answer? If you gave a low-wage New Yorker a car it’s worthless, even a burden.

63 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 5:33:25am

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

Indeed, at a normal pace it would take him more than 12 hours per day. Math, what is it for? ;)

64 RadicalModerate  Feb 3, 2015 5:33:34am

re: #60 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

“Antifascism” for Putin’s Russia is but a rhetorical device. “Fascism” in this sense is limited to Hitler, “antifascism” to USSR’s struggle against Hitler, so one can be an “antifascist” as long as one supports that struggle, even if they hold the most Neanderthal antisemitic, pro-dictatorial, racist/anti-minority, anti-liberal views. Which is why you see a self-proclaimed leader of the “Donbass antifascist struggle” Zakharchenko blaming the Jews, which is only the latest in a long series of such statements by various “rebel” figures.

Reading that strikes me that Putin is pushing an Orwellian “newspeak” to almost unheard of levels in practice.

65 Alyosha  Feb 3, 2015 5:34:59am

About to go to sleep, but I thought after assigning karma points I’d just mention how cool this place is. Stalk ya’ll tomorrow. Don’t let all them gohmerts measle ya!

66 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 5:36:54am

re: #62 Decatur Deb

Lot’s of weird in that story, besides the prick boss. At a reasonable pace that’s 6 hours of walking each day. Is a car in the city even the best answer? If you gave a low-wage New Yorker a car it’s worthless, even a burden.

Yes, you totally need a car in Detroit. The public transit system (if you can even call it that) is utter suckage.

67 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 5:37:06am

re: #63 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Indeed, at a normal pace it would take him more than 12 hours per day. Math, what is it for? ;)

Got that as 21 miles round trip, but from VB it’s over-reported anyway.

68 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 5:37:42am

re: #66 The Vicious Babushka

Yes, you totally need a car in Detroit. The public transit system (if you can even call it that) is utter suckage.

Hope they don’t pay 500/month to park.

69 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 5:37:57am

re: #67 Decatur Deb

Ah, OK. Then 6.

70 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 5:38:45am

re: #67 Decatur Deb

Got that as 21 miles round trip, but from VB it’s over-reported anyway.

Detroit to Rochester Hills is 21 miles, so his total commute is 42 miles each day.

71 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 5:38:48am

re: #68 Decatur Deb

I guess it’s just weird that they count half a mile then ;)

72 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 5:38:57am

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

Oh.

73 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 5:39:33am

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

Detroit to Rochester Hills is 21 miles, so his total commute is 42 miles each day.

How much on the bus?

74 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 5:39:39am

Then 12, and more probably 13 hours. But, as said, an exaggerated story.

75 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 5:40:33am

re: #68 Decatur Deb

Hope they don’t pay 500/month to park.

The only place you have to pay for parking is Downtown, and even there some companies are building their own parking garages, or offer parking pass as part of work benefits.

76 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 5:41:30am

re: #75 The Vicious Babushka

The only place you have to pay for parking is Downtown, and even there some companies are building their own parking garages, or offer parking pass as part of work benefits.

Why do I think this place is light on benefits?

77 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 5:43:04am

re: #73 Decatur Deb

How much on the bus?

He takes the bus to within 5 or 6 miles of his workplace and walks from there.

78 RadicalModerate  Feb 3, 2015 5:43:48am

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

He commutes 21 miles but he doesn’t walk the entire distance. He takes the bus and then hikes 5 miles.

Still that’s a long walk and yes it’s outrageous he’s paid shit. They need a union at that shop.

The timeline on the Detroit Free Press story has it at about 20 miles total - about 7 to work and 12 on the trip home. Between his commute and workday, he gets only about 4 hours per day at home.

79 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 5:43:52am

re: #76 Decatur Deb

Why do I think this place is light on benefits?

RIGHT TO WORK!!!!!!

80 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 5:45:31am

re: #78 RadicalModerate

The timeline on the Detroit Free Press story has it at about 20 miles total - about 7 to work and 12 on the trip home. Between his commute and workday, he gets only about 4 hours per day at home.

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Yeah, but he usually gets to use the “Employee of the Month” entrance.

81 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 5:46:39am

From another site:

Because buses don’t cover the full distance between James Robertson’s home in Detroit and his job in Rochester Hills, he walks about eight miles headed to work and about 13 miles home, five days a week.

freep.com
So maybe true after all. And if he’s quicker than normal, it’s 5 hours in total, i.e. basically what he says (2.5 hours each time, I think).

82 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 5:47:11am

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

He takes the bus to within 5 or 6 miles of his workplace and walks from there.

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Man and I thought my commute at DOI was crazy. Plus Detroit gets a lot colder than DC does.

83 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 5:48:47am

re: #78 RadicalModerate

Wait, am I reading this wrong, or does the chart claim he sleeps 2 hours at home?

84 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 5:50:30am

re: #83 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Wait, am I reading this wrong, or does the chart claim he sleeps 2 hours at home?

Could be a mattress tester.

85 wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2015 5:51:41am
86 RadicalModerate  Feb 3, 2015 5:53:37am

re: #83 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Wait, am I reading this wrong, or does the chart claim he sleeps 2 hours at home?

Two hours at home, and what looks like maybe an hour and a half tops during the bus rides. Its incredible that he doesn’t have serious health problems with that much of a truncated sleep cycle.

87 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 5:54:58am

re: #86 RadicalModerate

Two hours at home, and what looks like maybe an hour and a half tops during the bus rides. Its incredible that he doesn’t have serious health problems with that much of a truncated sleep cycle.

Has to stay alert and on guard when he transits the no-go zones.

88 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 5:56:36am

re: #86 RadicalModerate

That assuming one can get a good sleep on a bus and falls asleep immediately. Really, while the basic story is probably correct, the chart must be off. A man cannot physically sleep only for 3 hours a day during the work week for a decade.

89 darthstar  Feb 3, 2015 5:56:55am
90 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 5:57:26am

In the lead up to the SB the other day, I was reading about how Richard Sherman’s father still wakes up at 4 AM for his job as a garbage man and this man is missing an eye too due to a child accident. Man if my son had made the big like that. On the other token, my dad was telling me that Neil Young’s son has a modest job managing a Home Depot or some place like that. I can’t imagine doing what James Robertson does once let alone on a daily basis.

91 darthstar  Feb 3, 2015 5:57:35am
92 Romantic Heretic  Feb 3, 2015 5:57:41am

re: #43 Decatur Deb

Haven’t encountered the CoR group—Mobile is at the other side of the state. We frequently drive by this classic from the linked collection:
Image: bb-christian17.jpg

It’s near the Second Largest Confederate Flag in the World.*

*SCV artifact near Clanton AL.

Why do they think going to church will protect them from Satan? Old Nick does some of his best work there.

93 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 5:57:57am

re: #88 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

That assuming one can get a good sleep on a bus and falls asleep immediately. Really, while the basic story is probably correct, the chart must be off. A man cannot physically sleep only for 3 hours a day during the work week for a decade.

It’s either BS or a rare pathology. In either case you don’t use him as a labor relations metric.

94 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 5:58:43am

re: #89 darthstar

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30K for a hotel room!?!!? Oh but he’s happy to cut vital social services because Christie living like a king in his travels is more important than his citizens getting help. What a complete ass he is. King Christie I.

95 Maggie's Pa  Feb 3, 2015 6:03:05am

re: #87 Decatur Deb

His walk is all uphill too, both ways.

96 darthstar  Feb 3, 2015 6:04:16am
97 darthstar  Feb 3, 2015 6:05:38am

re: #94 HappyWarrior

30K for a hotel room!?!!? Oh but he’s happy to cut vital social services because Christie living like a king in his travels is more important than his citizens getting help. What a complete ass he is. King Christie I.

Turns out it was 30k for him and his family for a couple of days - not unusual for a blue collar guy at all, apparently - especially if he’s kissing the King of Jordan’s ass.

98 RadicalModerate  Feb 3, 2015 6:06:47am

re: #93 Decatur Deb

It’s either BS or a rare pathology. In either case you don’t use him as a labor relations metric.

Actually, I know a few friends in the medical profession (a doctor and a couple nurses) who had insane residences after graduating med/nursing school. Some of them literally lived at the hospital for 5-6 days a week and got roughly the same amount of sleep a night as Mr. Robertson did, for close to a year and a half’s stretch. Of course, they didn’t have to deal with cross-town walks in the snow, but its still a similar experience.

99 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 6:08:31am

re: #98 RadicalModerate

Actually, I know a few friends in the medical profession (a doctor and a couple nurses) who had insane residences after graduating med/nursing school. Some of them literally lived at the hospital for 5-6 days a week and got roughly the same amount of sleep a night as Mr. Robertson did, for close to a year and a half’s stretch. Of course, they didn’t have to deal with cross-town walks in the snow, but its still a similar experience.

Insane—they raised $100K on gofundme to buy him a new car
BUT NEVER OCCURRED TO ANYBODY TO GIVE HIM A RAISE.

100 Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2015 6:10:57am

re: #99 The Vicious Babushka

Insane—they raised $100K on gofundme to buy him a new car
BUT NEVER OCCURRED TO ANYBODY TO GIVE HIM A RAISE.

HE NEEDS THE DIGNITY OF WORKING FOR THAT WAGE!1!!

101 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 6:14:16am

re: #97 darthstar

Turns out it was 30k for him and his family for a couple of days - not unusual for a blue collar guy at all, apparently - especially if he’s kissing the King of Jordan’s ass.

Yeah just a regular guy.

102 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 6:15:11am

re: #98 RadicalModerate

Actually, I know a few friends in the medical profession (a doctor and a couple nurses) who had insane residences after graduating med/nursing school. Some of them literally lived at the hospital for 5-6 days a week and got roughly the same amount of sleep a night as Mr. Robertson did, for close to a year and a half’s stretch. Of course, they didn’t have to deal with cross-town walks in the snow, but its still a similar experience.

The Army, specifically USAARL, knows what there is to know about sleep deprivation and performance, with and without drugs. Normal humans can’t keep that schedule.

usaarl.army.mil

usaarl.army.mil

103 RadicalModerate  Feb 3, 2015 6:16:53am

re: #100 Timothy Watson

HE NEEDS THE DIGNITY OF WORKING FOR THAT WAGE!1!!

Hopefully he can get a decent accountant on a pro bono basis to keep him from taking too big of a tax hit on that amount of income (at last estimate the donations calculated to roughly six times his annual pay) to defer over several years.

104 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 6:17:19am

4 hours + commute sleep I could swallow. 2-3 hours? Naah. The journos cut the corners, I think.

105 lawhawk  Feb 3, 2015 6:19:31am

Heh.

106 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 6:20:02am

re: #104 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

4 hours + commute sleep I could swallow. 2-3 hours? Naah. The journos cut the corners, I think.

All the headlines say he walks 21 miles to work and that’s totally not true.

107 darthstar  Feb 3, 2015 6:21:42am
108 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 6:22:50am

Things our Army has paid to find out:

TITLE: BEDTIME ADMINISTRATION OF MELATONIN TO HEALTHY FEMALES DOES NOT ALTER MENSTRUAL CHARACTERISTICS

TITLE: SUSTAINING FEMALE UH-60 HELICOPTER PERFORMANCE WITH DEXEDRINE DURING SUSTAINED OPERATIONS: A SIMULATOR STUDY

109 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 6:23:05am

re: #107 darthstar

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He had his answers all lined up.

110 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 6:23:55am

All this talk of sleep makes me wanna go back to you know sleep. But i got a sort of interview today between 11 and 1.

111 darthstar  Feb 3, 2015 6:23:57am

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

All the headlines say he walks 21 miles to work and that’s totally not true.

I think we can all agree he has a shitty commute. I think the kickstarter thing is awesome. We should do this for random Americans more often.

112 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 6:23:58am

I assume this is a carefully crafted trolling of the Huckster…..

113 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 6:24:09am

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

Dunno, acc. to the article I posted above, his total walking may indeed amount to 21 miles (8 there, 13 back).

114 darthstar  Feb 3, 2015 6:26:30am
115 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 6:27:18am

re: #113 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Dunno, acc. to the article I posted above, his total walking may indeed amount to 21 miles (8 there, 13 back).

Considering the utterly shitty public transit system in the Metro Detroit area, he probably walks a lot more than he rides.

116 darthstar  Feb 3, 2015 6:28:05am
117 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 6:28:19am
118 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 6:31:36am

re: #114 darthstar

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That’s what happens when you elect Real World contestants.

119 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 6:32:22am

re: #117 Dr. Matt

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Please President Obama say you think that clean air and water are good. I want to see Hannity say that he doesn’t think clean air and water are good for kids. Sheesh all it fucking takes is Obama talking for these freaks to flip out.

120 Decatur Deb  Feb 3, 2015 6:34:39am

All this talk of walking, and there’s a totally unwalked dog in the next room. BBL

121 darthstar  Feb 3, 2015 6:34:55am
122 darthstar  Feb 3, 2015 6:35:13am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

All this talk of walking, and there’s a totally unwalked dog in the next room. BBL

I’ve got two dogs needing a walk myself.

123 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 6:37:49am

re: #121 darthstar

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Maybe the people who gave them the majority in the Congress are watching and thinking “Yeah maybe I shouldn’t have voted Republican just because” or maybe I’ll go on a dinner date with a Hollywood starlet Friday night. Seriously, these guys are bonkers. All it takes is President Obama saying that he thinks immunizations are a good thing and like clockwork right wing nutjobs in and outside of politics are eager to say I AIN’T LETTING OBUMMER VACCINIZE MY KIDS.

124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 6:40:11am

re: #123 HappyWarrior

Between moonbats who mistrust Big Pharma and Western Medicine and wingnuts who mistrust Big Government and modern Science, we have just reach fatal levels (literally) of stoopid.

125 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 6:40:16am

Have these parents who don’t want to vaccinize their kids ever thought that maybe their kids don’t want to get sick? It’s unbelievably selfish.

126 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 6:40:57am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Between moonbats who mistrust Big Pharma and Western Medicine and wingnuts who mistrust Big Government and modern Science, we have just reach fatal levels (literally) of stoopid.

The grand intersection of Moonbat, Wingnut, and Liberbro.

127 Patricia Kayden  Feb 3, 2015 6:48:16am

re: #54 Dr. Matt

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Not just idiots — also cruel. I cannot imagine loving parents subjecting their children to suffering which could easily be avoided. There should be no religious exemptions to vaccinating your children. On the other hand, I completely understand medical exemptions. It’s crazy how such a developed country like the US gets caught up in bizarre theories.

128 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 6:51:22am

re: #119 HappyWarrior

Please President Obama say you think that clean air and water are good. I want to see Hannity say that he doesn’t think clean air and water are good for kids. Sheesh all it fucking takes is Obama talking for these freaks to flip out.

It just occurred to me that this is the perfect way for the President to troll with the GOP primaries: Just come out every week before the next debate and say something that’s perfectly logical and common sense, then watch as the candidates tear each other apart trying to find a way to oppose him.

129 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 6:52:16am

re: #127 Patricia Kayden

It’s crazy how such a developed country like the US gets caught up in bizarre theories.

Because we have not seen or experienced the effects of these diseases for decades. They have been reduced to abstract concepts. And as a means of projecting one’s distrust for authority, science, society, government, etc.

130 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 6:52:31am

re: #128 Targetpractice

It just occurred to me that this is the perfect way for the President to troll with the GOP primaries: Just come out every week before the next debate and say something that’s perfectly logical and common sense, then watch as the candidates tear each other apart trying to find a way to oppose him.

That’s all it takes.

131 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 6:54:00am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because we have not seen or experienced the effects of these diseases for decades. They have been reduced to abstract concepts. And as a means of projecting one’s distrust for authority, science, society, government, etc.

Yes very true but I think she’s wondering why we seem more than any other developed country to have these sort of things. We seem to have much more people who take the past for granted. I mean even the Tories in the UK recognize the importance of a health care system that provides for as much of its citizenry as it can.

132 lawhawk  Feb 3, 2015 6:54:08am

re: #127 Patricia Kayden

There’s a solid reason for medical exemptions. There are people who are allergic to eggs or other components of vaccines. Or they are too young or are immune compromised. Those are the people for whom making sure that there’s herd immunity is critical. They are protected because everyone else is unable to carry or transmit as the case may be.

There is no reason to have a philosophical exemption at all. Because you feel that a vaccine isn’t good/healthy/etc., isn’t a reason. It’s wishful thinking and unsupported by medicine.

Religious exemptions are likewise not in the public benefit. WV and MS do not allow religious and philosophical exemptions, and they both have 99% vaccination rates on infant/toddler vaccines.

But the right wing and xenophobes (warning- serious overlap there) want to blame the outbreak on foreigners/illegal aliens, even though most Latin American countries have comparable vaccination rates to the US, and in some cases far exceed it. The thing is that if everyone were vaccinated, there would be no outbreak, even if there was someone who came into the US with the disease. It wouldn’t have a chance to spread since the vaccinations would keep the disease tamped down.

133 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 6:55:47am

re: #131 HappyWarrior

Yes very true but I think she’s wondering why we seem more than any other developed country to have these sort of things. We seem to have much more people who take the past for granted. I mean even the Tories in the UK recognize the importance of a health care system that provides for as much of its citizenry as it can.

Because we raise and (fail to ) educate people who turn out ignorant of how science works, and people who are mistrustful of government to the point of shooting themselves in the foot rather than accept its authority.

134 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 6:55:55am

I bet if there were an Ebola vaccine…………

135 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 6:56:56am

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I bet if there were an Ebola vaccine…………

There would be morons who’d say it’s a government conspiracy.

136 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 6:57:28am

re: #135 Targetpractice

There would be morons who’d say it’s a government conspiracy.

and insist that it causes AIDS

137 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 6:57:52am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because we raise and (fail to ) educate people who turn out ignorant of how science works, and people who are mistrustful of government to the point of shooting themselves in the foot rather than accept its authority.

True to all of that. I think it’s frustrating. I think we deal with that and a bit of amnesia as a society about past achievements. Things like clean air, water, and food are definitely taken for granted for by the average American yet they’re all things that conservatives fought or rather continue to fight the regulation there of.

138 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 6:58:14am

re: #135 Targetpractice

There would be morons who’d say it’s a government conspiracy.

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

and insist that it causes AIDS

Both answers are correct.

139 lawhawk  Feb 3, 2015 6:59:18am

re: #135 Targetpractice

Or that there’s a conspiracy to thwart the introduction of a malaria vaccine that would reduce the 300 million cases annually.

140 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 7:00:20am

re: #128 Targetpractice

It just occurred to me that this is the perfect way for the President to troll with the GOP primaries: Just come out every week before the next debate and say something that’s perfectly logical and common sense, then watch as the candidates tear each other apart trying to find a way to oppose him.

That’s a bingo!

141 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 3, 2015 7:00:36am

re:
#8

In fact — as also noted by the blog, Sadly, No! — Clinton’s full remarks on global warming during the speech, which Tapper included toward the end of his post, make clear that Clinton did not propose “slow[ing] down our economy” as a strategy “to combat global warming.” He said that “rich” countries could take that approach; but then he said why he thought it wouldn’t work, asserting that the “only way” to fight global warming is to prove that doing so “is good economics that we will create more jobs to build a sustainable economy”:

Journalism. How does it work?

142 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 7:05:11am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

True to all of that. I think it’s frustrating. I think we deal with that and a bit of amnesia as a society about past achievements. Things like clean air, water, and food gay, minority and women’s rights are definitely taken for granted for by the average American yet they’re all things that conservatives fought or rather continue to fight.

Just expanded on your riff

143 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 7:06:29am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

True to all of that. I think it’s frustrating. I think we deal with that and a bit of amnesia as a society about past achievements. Things like clean air, water, and food are definitely taken for granted for by the average American yet they’re all things that conservatives fought or rather continue to fight the regulation there of.

Josh Marshall over at TPM pointed to this poll

And pointed out that the reality is that the dividing line for people who seem to think vaccination should be mandatory as opposed to a choice is roughly around age 30. Then he ended on this:

I think the reality is that society seems to has lost the historical memory of various horrific endemic childhood diseases.

And I think it’s not just vaccinations, it’s a lot of issues. The Millennials and the generations after them are indeed growing up more open-minded, less racist, less homophobic, but they’re also growing up with no understanding of what life was really like even a generation ago. And it’s that lack of understanding that, I fear, is going to lead to our society backsliding as the forces who oppose all the progress of the last century play on the ignorance of the younger generations to dismantle it all.

144 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:07:27am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Just expanded on your riff

Oh definitely but those are things that wingnuts don’t give a fuck about. I’m talking about things that we really don’t even think too much about. Like we expect the food at our restaurants to be clean and free of disease but we forget often that the FDA was something that TR had to hard for. And clean water is something we all enjoy but would have been a luxury to our even our most wealthiest ancestors.

145 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 3, 2015 7:07:40am

re:
#29

Lizard 101 - The Truth About ‘LFG’ and The Terrible Secret of ‘LFG’

We are at war with LFG. We have always been at war with LFG.

/

146 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 7:10:25am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Oh definitely but those are things that wingnuts don’t give a fuck about. I’m talking about things that we really don’t even think too much about. Like we expect the food at our restaurants to be clean and free of disease but we forget often that the FDA was something that TR had to hard for. And clean water is something we all enjoy but would have been a luxury to our even our most wealthiest ancestors.

Wingnuts think this is A Bad Thing

147 lawhawk  Feb 3, 2015 7:10:32am
148 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:10:36am

re: #143 Targetpractice

Josh Marshall over at TPM pointed to this poll

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And pointed out that the reality is that the dividing line for people who seem to think vaccination should be mandatory as opposed to a choice is roughly around age 30. Then he ended on this:

And I think it’s not just vaccinations, it’s a lot of issues. The Millennials and the generations after them are indeed growing up more open-minded, less racist, less homophobic, but they’re also growing up with no understanding of what life was really like even a generation ago. And it’s that lack of understanding that, I fear, is going to lead to our society backsliding as the forces who oppose all the progress of the last century play on the ignorance of the younger generations to dismantle it all.

It’s a lot like how many in our generation say “Well I’m socially liberal but I’m a fiscal conservative.” There seems to be yeah a lack of understanding what life was like in the past. Really, we’re talking about vaccines for contagious diseases.

149 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:11:32am

re: #146 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts think this is A Bad Thing

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I know. Maybe they like rat shit on their chicken sandwiches but I for one like knowing my food isn’t contaminated.

150 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 7:12:16am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

I know. Maybe they like rat shit on their chicken sandwiches but I for one like knowing my food isn’t contaminated.

Their favorite burger toppings are poverty tears and no-sick-leave snot.

151 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 7:12:19am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Oh definitely but those are things that wingnuts don’t give a fuck about. I’m talking about things that we really don’t even think too much about. Like we expect the food at our restaurants to be clean and free of disease but we forget often that the FDA was something that TR had to hard for. And clean water is something we all enjoy but would have been a luxury to our even our most wealthiest ancestors.

Well, to be historically accurate, even Teddy didn’t take the need for things like the Pure Food And Drug Act until The Jungle was published. And his own personal opposition to socialism made him want to prove Sinclair wrong, only to find out that even in factories and slaughter houses where the managers had been tipped off and given time to clean up, the conditions were still absolutely appalling.

152 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:12:23am

Of course the same wingnuts who complain endless about “regulations” are the same ones who want their vision of Christianity to be the law of the land. Yeah that’s not contradictory at all.

153 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 7:12:50am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

I know. Maybe they like rat shit on their chicken sandwiches but I for one like knowing my food isn’t contaminated.

They need to expand those labels to include what could be there if the said agencies had not been involved.

154 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:14:58am

re: #151 Targetpractice

Well, to be historically accurate, even Teddy didn’t take the need for things like the Pure Food And Drug Act until The Jungle was published. And his own personal opposition to socialism made him want to prove Sinclair wrong, only to find out that even in factories and slaughter houses where the managers had been tipped off and given time to clean up, the conditions were still absolutely appalling.

True that. I guess my point is we haven’t always had something like the FDA to ensure our food was safe to eat. My big point here and I know you agree since you posted that poll about generational attitudes on vaccines is that too much is taken for granted and the past is seen as a distant memory. Here’s another phrase I hear people say a lot especially younger ones “Oh unions were great and had a use but they don’t have a use anymore.” Sorry but there will always be a need for people to advocate for better working conditions, pay, and benefits.

155 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 7:15:05am

re: #146 The Vicious Babushka

Fucking idiots.

156 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 7:15:36am

re: #147 lawhawk

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Just as how they’ve slowly dropped the theater about looking to find an alternative to the law or “fix” it in the wake of a SCOTUS decision against the subsidies and just gleefully admitted they want the subsidies to die so they can watch the law collapse.

157 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 7:17:23am
158 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:17:46am

I mean taking the past for granted is inevitable. It’s not really a political thing, more part of human nature where we grow accustomed to things because more and more generations are removed from the past. But I guess that’s why I think history ought to be heavily emphasized in education for that reason so people can’t go “Oh that happened so long ago.”

159 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 7:18:34am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

True that. I guess my point is we haven’t always had something like the FDA to ensure our food was safe to eat. My big point here and I know you agree since you posted that poll about generational attitudes on vaccines is that too much is taken for granted and the past is seen as a distant memory. Here’s another phrase I hear people say a lot especially younger ones “Oh unions were great and had a use but they don’t have a use anymore.” Sorry but there will always be a need for people to advocate for better working conditions, pay, and benefits.

I was talking with my mother last night about the whole anti-vaccine business and her first response when I asked her what she thought about it?

“I think it’s a bunch of bullshit.”

And my mother was at the tail end of the Baby Boom, so she didn’t grow up dealing with the major pandemics and even epidemics of the mid-20th.

160 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:22:40am

I think this is why Libertarianism attracts so many young people to it by the way. It sounds great, hey it has liberty in its name, and it’s about freedom! But then you look at what would actually if the Libertarian worldview happened. Abortion laws would go back to what they were before Roe. There would be no protection on a federal level for Civil Rights and states could be free to do what they wanted to and we’ve seen that the state governments do NOT always know or want best. The middle class that was built strongly through government investment in its citizenry due to the New Deal consensus agreed on from presidents from FDR to Nixon would be weakened. It would ironically despite Libertarians belief in capitalism weakened and discredit capitalism because the system would be rigged in favor of the haves but young Libertarians especially don’t think about that. They just hear freedom and platitudes about big government being bad and ignore what our grandparents and great grandparents had to deal with.

161 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 7:23:04am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Here’s another phrase I hear people say a lot especially younger ones “Oh unions were great and had a use but they don’t have a use anymore.” Sorry but there will always be a need for people to advocate for better working conditions, pay, and benefits.

How are individuals with limited resources supposed to negotiate on equal terms for employment with multi-billion-dollar international corporations? Ditto goes for insurance coverage or financial services.

162 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:24:27am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

How are individuals with limited resources supposed to negotiate on equal terms for employment with multi-billion-dollar international corporations? Ditto goes for insurance coverage or financial services.

Well that’s what happens when the NLRB has been rigged the past 30 years to favor employer over employee.

163 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:27:16am

Really though, i find it laughable when Republican governors like Christie, Walker, and especially Nikki Haley talk about “taking on” the unions. Oh yay you, you’re taking on unions when they’re at a historical weak in this country and in the case of Haley where they never were particularly strong even in the age where unions had more political influence. That’s not even getting started on those who bitch about “greedy unions” but ignore the culture of corporate greed. A union pension is a lot less offensive ot me than a seven figure bonus given to an executive at a company that is losing money.

164 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 7:28:08am

OH LOOK A RACIST IDIOT==>

165 lawhawk  Feb 3, 2015 7:30:55am
166 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 7:31:50am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

I think this is why Libertarianism attracts so many young people to it by the way. It sounds great, hey it has liberty in its name, and it’s about freedom! But then you look at what would actually if the Libertarian worldview happened. Abortion laws would go back to what they were before Roe. There would be no protection on a federal level for Civil Rights and states could be free to do what they wanted to and we’ve seen that the state governments do NOT always know or want best. The middle class that was built strongly through government investment in its citizenry due to the New Deal consensus agreed on from presidents from FDR to Nixon would be weakened. It would ironically despite Libertarians belief in capitalism weakened and discredit capitalism because the system would be rigged in favor of the haves but young Libertarians especially don’t think about that. They just hear freedom and platitudes about big government being bad and ignore what our grandparents and great grandparents had to deal with.

The appeal of libertarianism is that of greed, of the perception that you can do whatever you like and the only person who will be hurt is you. And while there are certainly some things that libertarians support that I agree with (legalizing “soft” drugs for example), overall I find the idea that you only have a responsibility to yourself to be rather opposed to the ideals of this nation.

167 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 7:33:39am

re: #165 lawhawk

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Might want RT this as well:

168 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 7:33:48am

Longest writer’s block in history==>

169 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 7:36:42am
170 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:36:56am

re: #168 The Vicious Babushka

Longest writer’s block in history==>

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More like a really delayed publishing. Harper Lee wrote this in the 50’s.

171 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 7:37:16am

re: #168 The Vicious Babushka

Longest writer’s block in history==>

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Is Harper Lee still alive????

172 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 7:37:37am

re: #170 HappyWarrior

More like a really delayed publishing. Harper Lee wrote this in the 50’s.

Is she still alive?

173 wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2015 7:37:38am
174 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:38:14am

re: #172 The Vicious Babushka

Is she still alive?

Yes, she is.

175 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 7:39:20am

re: #168 The Vicious Babushka

Longest writer’s block in history==>

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Just read the article.

I AM THRILLED!!!!!

I hope they release an audio version concurrently!

176 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:40:03am

re: #175 FemNaziBitch

Just read the article.

I AM THRILLED!!!!!

I hope they release an audio version concurrently!

I want to read it too. Scout as an adult. Should be interesting.

177 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 7:41:29am
178 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 7:42:34am

re: #168 The Vicious Babushka

Longest writer’s block in history==>

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Well, that book was finished earlier that To Kill…

179 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 7:43:46am
180 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 7:44:50am

re: #179 FemNaziBitch

Don’t show this to Santorum.

181 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 7:44:51am

re: #178 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Well, that book was finished earlier that To Kill…

OK did not know that. It’s actually her first novel.

182 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:46:12am

re: #181 The Vicious Babushka

OK did not know that. It’s actually her first novel.

Yeah so that means that To Kill a Mockingbird was actually a prequel technically.

183 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 7:46:20am
184 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 3, 2015 7:47:17am

re:
#164

If we still did old math 2+2 would be illegal criminal invasion South American children = measles outbreak

I eagerly await this tweet’s translation into the English language./

185 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 7:47:47am
186 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 7:49:40am

OMG OMG OMG OBAMA IS TAXIN TEH POOR OPPRESSED MILLIONAIRES, WERE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!! TYRANNY!!!!!!!

187 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 7:50:22am

re: #179 FemNaziBitch

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Could I get those, but with “Cat Side” instead? Because it seems I no longer have a bed, just a very fancy cat bed that they sometimes allow me to share.

188 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 7:51:08am

re: #184 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#164

I eagerly await this tweet’s translation into the English language./

Illegal South American children are poisoning the wells invading the good old US of A and infecting everyone with bubonic plague AIDS measles.

189 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 3, 2015 7:51:49am

re:
#186

Between the onerous death tax and taxing overseas cash piles it’s like your neighborhood multimillionaire can’t catch a break.

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190 iossarian  Feb 3, 2015 7:52:50am

re: #186 The Vicious Babushka

OMG OMG OMG OBAMA IS TAXIN TEH POOR OPPRESSED MILLIONAIRES, WERE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!! TYRANNY!!!!!!!

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Oh noes, family-owned businesses!

What will we do when unqualified scions are no longer able to take over the running of large corporations?

191 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 3, 2015 7:53:03am

re:
#187

I have to share a pillow with one of my overlords.

192 Lidane  Feb 3, 2015 7:53:11am

re: #114 darthstar

Isn’t Sean Duffy the same douche that was a Z-list nobody on MTV?

193 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 3, 2015 7:56:54am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Libertarianism thrives because its adherents know little or nothing about history. Clean water, paved roads and public education were already in place when they were born and so they feel that those things, which required years of collective effort, are naturally occurring. They spring up just like mushrooms. Libertarianism is ignorance and selfishness overlaid with a veneer of pseudo-intellectual rhetoric.

194 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 7:57:54am

re: #191 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#187

I have to share a pillow with one of my overlords.

Mine decides his favorite spot on my bed is my side of the bed. So either I go in there at bed time to find him already sacked out, or get up in the night only to come back to him curled up in the warm spot.

195 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 7:58:22am

re: #193 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Libertarianism thrives because its adherents know little or nothing about history. Clean water, paved roads and public education were already in place when they were born and so they feel that those things, which required years of collective effort, are naturally occurring. They spring up just like mushrooms. Libertarianism is ignorance and selfishness overlaid with a veneer of pseudo-intellectual rhetoric.

If you want to see a pile of Bad Crazy, do a Google Image search on “Who will build the roads”

196 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 7:58:48am

re: #193 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Libertarianism thrives because its adherents know little or nothing about history. Clean water, paved roads and public education were already in place when they were born and so they feel that those things, which required years of collective effort, are naturally occurring. They spring up just like mushrooms. Libertarianism is ignorance and selfishness overlaid with a veneer of pseudo-intellectual rhetoric.

Yeah that’s pretty much how I see it too. Really so much the bolded. It really is an ideology born out of modernity and taking the modernity for granted.

197 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 7:59:30am

re: #193 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Libertarianism also rests on the fallacious notion that the Free Market is some sort of divine natural state, not one that requires a functioning infrastructure (both physical and legislative/regulatory) in order to function for the benefit of everyone and not just the suppliers.

198 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 8:00:55am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s pretty much how I see it too. Really so much the bolded. It really is an ideology born out of modernity and taking the modernity for granted.

Which, in the case of anti-vaxxers, manifests in the idea that vaccines are unnecessary because all the advances of the 20th century in hygiene and cleanliness have made it easy to live a healthy life free of disease…which should fall apart right about the time flu season rolls around, yet never does.

199 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 8:01:26am
200 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:03:14am

cats on a waterbed

201 lawhawk  Feb 3, 2015 8:06:32am

Not ready for prime time, Gov. Christie:

202 iossarian  Feb 3, 2015 8:08:07am

re: #201 lawhawk

Not ready for prime time, Gov. Christie:

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Not-very-bright bully. Popular with Republicans.

203 Patricia Kayden  Feb 3, 2015 8:08:15am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

What exactly would Libertarians do if they got into positions of power? Seems like they believe everything should be left up to the free market and there should be no regulations. I don’t get why a party which is against governing runs to govern.

204 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 8:09:25am

re: #201 lawhawk

Not ready for prime time, Gov. Christie:

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Does Big Chicken think he can pull this shit when the primaries happen? Just shout down at the moderator and tell him that he’s not going to answer the question?

205 Lidane  Feb 3, 2015 8:10:38am

re: #203 Patricia Kayden

What exactly would Libertarians do if they got into positions of power?

See: Paul, Ron.

206 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 3, 2015 8:12:23am

The anti-vaccination movement provides another example of why I seriously doubt that there will be sufficient disgust with Republican actions to in any way advantage Democrats. The nationwide freakout over Ebola was mere weeks ago and yet today we’re hearing people question the merits and even the necessity of vaccinating against preventable disease.

207 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:12:51am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Libertarianism also rests on the fallacious notion that the Free Market is some sort of divine natural state, not one that requires a functioning infrastructure (both physical and legislative/regulatory) in order to function for the benefit of everyone and not just the suppliers.

Libertarianism sounds alot like the Mafia.

208 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Feb 3, 2015 8:12:59am

I’d really like to see all the tweets people are embedding in their comments, but even if I reload the page they disappear before I can read them. Charles, is there anything that can be done?

209 iossarian  Feb 3, 2015 8:13:58am

re: #206 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The anti-vaccination movement provides another example of why I seriously doubt that there will be sufficient disgust with Republican actions to in any way advantage Democrats. The nationwide freakout over Ebola was mere weeks ago and yet today we’re hearing people question the merits and even the necessity of vaccinating against preventable disease.

You really do start to wonder whether people are paying any attention at all, don’t you?

210 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:14:01am

re: #199 The Vicious Babushka

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Let’s not forget the comfort women rape victims trafickked in to die in “service” the workers

211 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 8:14:15am

re: #202 iossarian

Not-very-bright bully. Popular with Republicans.

The man’s entire appeal to the party base has been that he’s an unapologetic asshole. But beyond that, there’s really nothing of substance to him. I doubt many are going to find his time as a US Attorney appealing, and his gubernatorial record takes a nosedive after reelection, such that he can’t even count on winning NJ in the general election. And he’s waffled so many times on major issues that pinning him down would actually hurt rather than help him.

212 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 8:14:32am

I cannot believe in the year 2015 that people are freaking out over vaccinations. We now know how Copernicus felt.

213 iossarian  Feb 3, 2015 8:15:07am

re: #211 Targetpractice

He’s basically an “annoy a liberal” bumper sticker made flesh.

214 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:15:25am

re: #212 Dr. Matt

I cannot believe in the year 2015 that people are freaking out over vaccinations. We now know how Copernicus felt.

You now know how I feel about Reproductive Rights.

216 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:18:06am
217 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:18:37am
218 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 8:18:53am

re: #213 iossarian

He’s basically an “annoy a liberal” bumper sticker made flesh.

Pretty much. The folks in the cheap seats will love him shouting down reporters and teachers alike, and think he’s great for loudly bellowing how he’s not going to do this or that. But beyond that, he’s got nothing. What’s hilarious is that the “liberal” pundits have been trying to build him up as this great speaker and communicator, when his general response to inconvenient questions is to dodge them.

219 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2015 8:19:10am

I kinda figured that alcohol was involved, but still…drag racing in a PT Cruiser?
Oy…

Illegal street race, crash knocks out power to hundreds in Northside

220 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 8:19:37am

re: #215 Dr. Matt

Morning Joe Edits Obama Clip To Make It Appear He Was Anti-Vaccination

And once again, I’m reminded why I avoid Morning Joke like the plague.

221 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 8:19:49am

THIS DUMBSHIT==>

222 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:20:47am
223 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 8:21:08am

re: #221 The Vicious Babushka

THIS DUMBSHIT==>

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So Erick, Son of Erick, you agree with a government mandate? Agree with the government telling you what to do? Agree that sometimes the government should force people to do something for the common welfare?

224 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 8:21:16am

Erick you’re messing up the narrative.
IT TEH ILLEAGLES!!1!!!!

225 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 8:21:17am

re: #220 Targetpractice

And once again, I’m reminded why I avoid Morning Joke like the plague.

Holy Joe epitomizes the “both sides do it” bullshit.

226 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 8:21:34am

re: #216 FemNaziBitch

Now watch the religious fanatics scream.

227 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:22:06am
Who would’ve thought? Although Mississippi may rank last in overall health, vaccines are one area where it excels beyond many “healthier” states. Their policy on vaccinations is strict.
228 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:23:28am

<blockquote>Koch-funded groups coalesce around axing all federal funding for walking, biking and transit

because only goods can travel on the taxpayer’s dime???

229 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:25:00am

Groveland officers accused of using excessive force on 11-year-old girl

The young girl was on her bed watching television when she said she was forced to the ground at gunpoint.

“One of the officers was pushing me down and when he was pushing me down, (he) put his knee on me and the other officer had his gun pointed at me,” she told Channel 9.

230 Patricia Kayden  Feb 3, 2015 8:25:57am

re: #220 Targetpractice

And once again, I’m reminded why I avoid Morning Joke like the plague.

Me too. What difference would it make if President Obama had been mistaken about vaccinations in 2008? Just another example of the silly “both sides do it” meme.

231 lawhawk  Feb 3, 2015 8:26:08am

re: #221 The Vicious Babushka

232 Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 3, 2015 8:26:13am

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

Which is why we are hearing so much about the huge measles outbreaks in Mexico and Central America…

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233 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:26:21am
234 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 8:26:31am

This anti-vaxxer business really does seem to have the wingnuts in a bind. How do they maintain their “GOVERNMENT IS BAD!!!” mantra and avoid associating themselves with the bad craziness of saying vaccines should be a “choice”? They’re trying to claim that the anti-vaxxers are liberals, but that falls apart as soon as anyone pulls up the remarks from Christie or the Pauls.

235 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 8:27:43am

Why not let voters decide if they want to ban guns in their communities Dana?

236 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 3, 2015 8:27:48am

re: #217 FemNaziBitch

Thanks for the picture of Fujisan. It brought back some of my fondest memories.

237 Patricia Kayden  Feb 3, 2015 8:29:07am

re: #232 Flying Squirrel Girl

Which is why we are hearing so much about the huge measles outbreaks in Mexico and Central America…

/

Boom!!

238 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 8:30:08am
239 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2015 8:30:30am

There’s a nationwide strike happening today:

Union Workers at Catlettsburg Refinery Go on Strike

CATLETTSBURG, Ky. (WSAZ) — Oil workers from coast to coast are on strike, including union workers at a facility in Catlettsburg, Kentucky.

They started to walk off the job Sunday morning when their union failed to reach a deal with the energy industry.

The United Steelworkers Union represents employees at more than 200 oil refineries, terminals, pipelines and chemical plants in the US.

It’s being called the biggest walkout since 1980.

The United Steelworkers Union announced a work stoppage at nine refineries in the US, including the Marathon Refinery in Catlettsburg, Kentucky.

240 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 8:32:56am

HURR HURR IT TEH GUBMIT FAULT THAT PEOPLE DON’T VACCINATE!!1!!1!!

241 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 8:33:30am

His Orangeness has weighed in:

242 Patricia Kayden  Feb 3, 2015 8:34:15am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR IT TEH GUBMIT FAULT THAT PEOPLE DON’T VACCINATE!!1!!1!!

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Which government? Anti-vaccine nonsense didn’t begin with this President. But of course, President Obama is to blame for every dang thing.

243 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:34:31am
244 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 8:34:47am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR IT TEH GUBMIT FAULT THAT PEOPLE DON’T VACCINATE!!1!!1!!

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See, they can’t seem to find a narrative that isn’t in sharp contrast to their own BS. Anti-vaxxers are liberals, but the anti-vaxxer BS is due to distrust in government?

245 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:35:05am
246 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 8:35:40am

re: #244 Targetpractice

See, they can’t seem to find a narrative that isn’t in sharp contrast to their own BS. Anti-vaxxers are liberals, but the anti-vaxxer BS is due to distrust in government?

Erick is trying different talking points on for size.

247 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:35:53am
248 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:36:10am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

Erick is trying different talking points on for size.

throw enough spaghetti against the wall …

249 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 8:37:40am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

Erick is trying different talking points on for size.

All the wingnut pundits are trying desperately to find a way to blame this on liberals, and failing rather spectacularly. They absolutely refuse to acknowledge that their own ideology, that government is the root of all evil and we should be able to do whatever we like without government interference, is the foundation on which the anti-vaxxers have built their little cult.

250 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 8:37:54am

Of course Ben has to be a total douche==>

251 Patricia Kayden  Feb 3, 2015 8:38:04am

re: #247 FemNaziBitch

Because other pop artists are so matronly and only sing about rainbows and ponies.

252 Lidane  Feb 3, 2015 8:38:29am

re: #207 FemNaziBitch

Libertarianism sounds alot like the Mafia.

Except that a Mafia don loves his mother.

253 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:38:32am
Indiana is the first of more than 30 states to enact a compulsory sterilization law, allowing the state to “prevent procreation of confirmed criminals, idiots, imbeciles and rapists.” By 1940, 18,552 mentally ill people are surgically sterilized.

big suprise there . .

254 nearly-headless smith25  Feb 3, 2015 8:39:17am

re: #247 FemNaziBitch

Question: Tell me what you think about me
I buy my own diamonds and I buy my own rings
Only ring your cell-y when I’m feelin lonely
When it’s all over please get up and leave
Question: Tell me how you feel about this
Try to control me boy you get dismissed

All the women who are independent
Throw your hands up at me
All the honeys who makin’ money
Throw your hands up at me
All the mommas who profit dollas
Throw your hands up at me
All the ladies who truly feel me
Throw your hands up at me

-Independent
-Beyonce and Destiny’s Child

255 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:42:22am

Game of Drones

Into the Lava

256 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 8:44:24am

re: #238 The Vicious Babushka

GOP Sen. doesn’t think we should force employees to wash their hands after using the bathroom t.co pic.twitter.com
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) February 3, 2015

The Stupid Party continues to march on…….

257 rhuarc  Feb 3, 2015 8:46:19am

re: #238 The Vicious Babushka

Let’s not regulate the washing of hands, but let’s regulate that they have to put a sign up that says employees don’t wash their hands. Either be a purist on regulations or quit being such a fucking idiot. Geez!

258 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 8:46:29am

re: #207 FemNaziBitch

Libertarianism sounds alot like the Mafia.

Basically, it would leave us all as individual consumers at the mercy of the suppliers. In the name of PERSONAL FREEDOM.

259 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 8:47:10am

re: #257 rhuarc

Let’s not regulate the washing of hands, but let’s regulate that they have to put a sign up that says employees don’t wash their hands. Either be a purist on regulations or quit being such a fucking idiot. Geez!

HURR HURR IT WAS A JOKE!!! SATIRE!!!!!1!

260 b_sharp  Feb 3, 2015 8:49:53am

re: #186 The Vicious Babushka

OMG OMG OMG OBAMA IS TAXIN TEH POOR OPPRESSED MILLIONAIRES, WERE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!! TYRANNY!!!!!!!

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That’s misleading because many places charge capital gains taxes on the estate & the US doesn’t.

261 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 8:50:01am

re: #247 FemNaziBitch

40 percent of likely Iowa GOP caucus voters say Beyoncé is ‘mental poison’

I am certain that a majority of them believe that Ted Nugent is ‘balsam for the soul’.

262 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 8:50:58am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I am certain that a majority of them believe that Ted Nugent is ‘balsam for the soul’.

I think that secretly, a lot of them dream of being “poisoned” by Beyonce.

263 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 8:51:15am

So, #tcot is having a ragegasm over people objecting to Rand Paul’s idiotic statement that “Parents own their children” means HURR HURR LIBTARDS THINK GUBMIT OWN ALL TEH CHILDRENS!!!!1!!!

264 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 8:55:31am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

So, #tcot is having a ragegasm over people objecting to Rand Paul’s idiotic statement that “Parents own their children” means HURR HURR LIBTARDS THINK GUBMIT OWN ALL TEH CHILDRENS!!!!1!!!

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I think Charlie Pierce said it best:

Technically speaking, of course, you don’t own your kids, either. It’s been illegal to own someone in this country for going on 150 years now. The proto-Paul families of that era never got over that fact, of course. Some of the fans of the present day Paul family aren’t over it, either.

265 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 8:56:37am

And in timely fashion, raw story publishes this shit: Here are 8 invented diseases Big Pharma is banking on

266 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 8:56:38am

re: #264 Targetpractice

If you “own” your kids, then you are also responsible for what they do, including spreading a preventable illness to someone who is medically unable to receive a vaccination…

267 makeitstop  Feb 3, 2015 8:57:17am

re: #238 The Vicious Babushka

GOP Sen. doesn’t think we should force employees to wash their hands after using the bathroom

Common Sense is the new Obama.

268 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 8:58:12am

Imagine the cumlulative faux outrage if President Obama said that “parents own their children”.

269 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 3, 2015 9:01:17am

re:
#268

Hurr hurr Obama thinks he owns us and are kids are we his Slaves?!?!?!?!?!?!

270 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 9:01:55am
How can we speak of Democracy or Freedom when from the very beginning of life we mould the child to undergo tyranny, to obey a dictator? How can we expect democracy when we have reared slaves? Real freedom begins at the beginning of life, not at the adult stage. These people who have been diminished in their powers, made short-sighted, devitalized by mental fatigue, whose bodies have become distorted, whose wills have been broken by elders who say: “your will must disappear and mine prevail!”—how can we expect them, when school-life is finished, to accept and use the rights of freedom?

[Maria Montessori, Education for a New World, translator unknown]

271 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 9:05:37am

“I’ve heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking, normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines.”
~Rand Paul, 2015

“There’s a woman who came up crying to me tonight after the debate. She said her daughter was given that vaccine. She told me her daughter suffered mental retardation as a result of that vaccine. There are very dangerous consequences.”
~Michele Bachmann, 2011

272 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 9:06:56am

re: #271 Dr. Matt

“There’s a woman who came up crying to me tonight after the debate. She said her daughter was given that vaccine. She told me her daughter suffered mental retardation as a result of that vaccine. There are very dangerous consequences. And I said, ‘Mom thanks for telling me this!’
~Michele Bachmann, 2011

273 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 9:07:02am

re: #271 Dr. Matt

“I’ve heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking, normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines.”
~Rand Paul, 2015

“There’s a woman who came up crying to me tonight after the debate. She said her daughter was given that vaccine. She told me her daughter suffered mental retardation as a result of that vaccine. There are very dangerous consequences.”
~Michele Bachmann, 2011

Testimonials are the most effective and least factual form of rhetoric.

274 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 9:09:20am

re: #273 FemNaziBitch

Testimonials are the most effective and least factual form of rhetoric.

I didn’t get the flu vaccine and I didn’t get the flu!!!!!!!
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*disclaimer: I did get the flu vaccine*

275 wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2015 9:09:48am

This guy:

Went on Political Cesspool:

276 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 9:10:23am

anecdotal (testimonial) evidence

from the Skeptic’s Dictionary.

277 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 3, 2015 9:12:10am

re:
#475

Angling for the 2016 VP slot at the RNC.

278 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2015 9:14:00am

re: #275 wrenchwench

This guy:

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Went on Political Cesspool:

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Isn’t he the gay sheriff?

279 Great White Snark  Feb 3, 2015 9:15:19am

I’m not linking this as way too disturbing. But ISIS may have burned the jordanian pilot alive in a cage on camera.

280 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 9:15:19am
281 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 9:16:20am

Supposedly Jordan has threatened to execute all the ISIS prisoners if their pilot was killed.

282 wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2015 9:17:40am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t he the gay sheriff?

Yep.

283 Great White Snark  Feb 3, 2015 9:18:43am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

Damn near simultaneous posts… And yeah, horrible. Everyone still reluctant to let our troops have at these guys? I’m angry so I’ll limit my comment to say right now, we could send divisions and I’d not flinch. Later I may feel differently.

284 Ace-o-aces  Feb 3, 2015 9:20:00am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t he the gay sheriff?

Well he’s gay and a sheriff if that’s what you mean. He also appears to at least be competent at his job, unlike some AZ sheriffs.

285 Sionainn  Feb 3, 2015 9:20:50am

re: #281 The Vicious Babushka

Supposedly Jordan has threatened to execute all the ISIS prisoners if their pilot was killed.

I wouldn’t have a problem with that.

286 wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2015 9:22:02am

re: #284 Ace-o-aces

Well he’s gay and a sheriff if that’s what you mean. He also appears to at least be competent at his job, unlike some AZ sheriffs.

Except for claiming the Mexican border is in his district.

287 wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2015 9:23:14am
288 Sionainn  Feb 3, 2015 9:23:34am

re: #257 rhuarc

Let’s not regulate the washing of hands, but let’s regulate that they have to put a sign up that says employees don’t wash their hands. Either be a purist on regulations or quit being such a fucking idiot. Geez!

Common sense…how does it work?

289 retired cynic  Feb 3, 2015 9:24:26am

re: #166 Targetpractice

The appeal of libertarianism is that of greed, of the perception that you can do whatever you like and the only person who will be hurt is you. And while there are certainly some things that libertarians support that I agree with (legalizing “soft” drugs for example), overall I find the idea that you only have a responsibility to yourself to be rather opposed to the ideals of this nation.

And Christianity, if not all major religions, if that is important to you.

290 Great White Snark  Feb 3, 2015 9:25:37am

That pilot could have been an American, not that I think any less of a Jordanian pilot taking on such a dangerous mission. I refer ONLY to the difference it would make right here in the states. Our national bloodlust would rise like a tide. And it just might anyway.

291 iossarian  Feb 3, 2015 9:27:06am

re: #257 rhuarc

Let’s not regulate the washing of hands, but let’s regulate that they have to put a sign up that says employees don’t wash their hands. Either be a purist on regulations or quit being such a fucking idiot. Geez!

Exactly. Note that GOP politicians, when they forget to just mouth talking points, can actually mistakenly argue for sensible government regulation of businesses.

292 Eventual Carrion  Feb 3, 2015 9:31:47am

re: #189 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#186

Between the onerous death tax and taxing overseas cash piles it’s like your neighborhood multimillionaire can’t catch a break.

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Yes, they bitch they pay 70% of taxes but own 85 - 88% of the wealth. And we are whiners for bitching about making up for the 15-18% of taxes on wealth we don’t even fucking own.

293 iossarian  Feb 3, 2015 9:35:47am

Freedom, GOP-style:

“Shall we get takeout from the place that voluntarily self-inspects its countertops every three weeks, reminds employees to wash their hands, and gives people two days off if they get sick, or the place that has food thermometers to check for full cooking, and stores meat in a properly-installed, separate fridge?”

Freedom: Democratic flavor:

“Pizza or Chinese tonight?”

294 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 9:35:55am

Was back at the doctor yesterday. Since I just finished antibiotics, he doesn’t think it’s a continuation of my sinus infection. He decided I got a virus (either cold or flu) and I just have to suffer thru it.

*sigh*

295 wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2015 9:36:42am
296 iossarian  Feb 3, 2015 9:36:47am

re: #294 FemNaziBitch

Was back at the doctor yesterday. Since I just finished antibiotics, he doesn’t think it’s a continuation of my sinus infection. He decided I got a virus (either cold or flu) and I just have to suffer thru it.

*sigh*

Upding for good vibes, not for the virus…

297 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 3, 2015 9:37:38am

re:
#287

New Gov. @GregAbbott_TX ushers #ChrisKyleDay honoring star of #AmericanSniper movie

Does everyone get the day off? Does everyone get a free gun? Do we invade a country? /

298 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 9:37:55am

re: #293 iossarian

Freedom, GOP-style:

“Shall we get takeout from the place that voluntarily self-inspects its countertops every three weeks, reminds employees to wash their hands, and gives people two days off if they get sick, or the place that has food thermometers to check for full cooking, and stores meat in a properly-installed, separate fridge?”

Freedom: Democratic flavor:

“Pizza or Chinese tonight?”

Government has no role in making employers tell their employees to do anything, BUT we can make sure that lawyers have the right to solicit business from any victim and sue anyone that doesn’t

299 Timothy Watson  Feb 3, 2015 9:38:01am

Was looking over some of the casting news for Game of Thrones on Wikipedia, apparently the producers decided to break their “no flashbacks” rule.

300 lawhawk  Feb 3, 2015 9:38:59am
301 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 9:42:42am

re: #297 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#287

Does everyone get the day off? Does everyone get a free gun? Do we invade a country? /

They will exchange gifts of firearms and ammunition

302 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 3, 2015 9:46:12am

re:
#294

Sorry to hear about the virus. Always hate getting that news from the doctor, as opposed to having something that can be treated with an anti-biotic.

I’ve been fortunate this year (knock on wood) to not get any of the knock-me-on-my-as$ flu/viruses I usually get. I attribute my recent run of health to not riding the Metro trains anymore. The commuter bus is relatively cleaner, no kids, fewer people. Don’t know that that has anything to do with it, but it seems reasonable.

303 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 3, 2015 9:46:14am

re: #293 iossarian

Freedom, GOP-style:

“Shall we get takeout from the place that voluntarily self-inspects its countertops every three weeks, reminds employees to wash their hands, and gives people two days off if they get sick, or the place that has food thermometers to check for full cooking, and stores meat in a properly-installed, separate fridge?”

Freedom: Democratic flavor:

“Pizza or Chinese tonight?”

A lot of this pre-emptive regulation would be unnecessary if we had the means to prove that a certain microbe that infected a victim came from a certain location, or that the toxins from a certain factory smokestack contributed X % to someone’s illnesses.

Then the victim could sue for the damages and the restaurant/factory would be motivated to clean up its act. Or go out of business.

Until then, we just have to stick to cumbersome government regulation.

304 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 9:46:54am
305 darthstar  Feb 3, 2015 9:48:06am

Jeff Bridges really is the best of the Bridges boys.

306 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 9:49:48am

This is great news, now he can buy a new car, and a new house too, closer to where he works!

307 b_sharp  Feb 3, 2015 9:59:24am

Ron Paul World: Where every building is a court house and there are only two types of job - lawyer and janitor.

308 darthstar  Feb 3, 2015 9:59:55am

re: #304 Targetpractice

Don’t want to see it. Really don’t even want to read about it. Perfectly content to read, ‘Hostage killed’ and leave it at that. I feel like we elevate the ugliness of terrorists and it’s counter productive as it only helps them establish a position of power and influence.

309 b_sharp  Feb 3, 2015 10:01:50am

re: #308 darthstar

Don’t want to see it. Really don’t even want to read about it. Perfectly content to read, ‘Hostage killed’ and leave it at that. I feel like we elevate the ugliness of terrorists and it’s counter productive as it only helps them establish a position of power and influence.

The magic hand of the free market at work.

310 ObserverArt  Feb 3, 2015 10:02:16am

Hey all!

Just reading some of this mornings comments and I am now wondering if it going to take some kind of a huge human toll in some kind of a disease outbreak to reteach people how we need to pay attention to real professionals in professional positions like real practicing doctors and the like.

I see no other way. Seems only a damn good scare gets anyone to think straight…and even then reality is up against a pretty strong competitor in fake news and fake facts.

As far as the comments about the Millennials and their lack of concerns about some common issues that were learned the hard way, i wonder how much the internet plays into that issue?

We often discuss how the internet is used to distort real facts and allows people to find information that can confirm even the silliest thinking. Are the people born in the 90s the first real product of the internet info age?

If what we have seen these last few days regarding vaccinations and how their are many opinions on something that really should be one fact…then we are in a state of confusion as a society. Nothing good is going to come from that.

When first introduced to the internet back in 1994 or so, I thought it was the greatest thing ever. I am now to the point of thinking it may be a huge problem. I know it isn’t going away…but something is going to be needed to balance out all the bullshit that is just confusing so many real problems.

What to do…what to do???

311 wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2015 10:05:07am

re: #308 darthstar

Don’t want to see it. Really don’t even want to read about it. Perfectly content to read, ‘Hostage killed’ and leave it at that. I feel like we elevate the ugliness of terrorists and it’s counter productive as it only helps them establish a position of power and influence.

312 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 3, 2015 10:05:37am

good morning Lizards.

313 b_sharp  Feb 3, 2015 10:06:01am

re: #310 ObserverArt

What to do?

Open up a chain of “Spliff and a Beer” franchises.

314 Mattand  Feb 3, 2015 10:06:10am

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

This is great news, now he can buy a new car, and a new house too, closer to where he works!

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Quite frankly, if the story is on the level, he should look for another employer. Sounds like these guys knew he was going through hell to get to his low-paying job, and they only action they took was use him as a guilt trip for his co-workers.

“Lookit Robertson here! We don’t pay him shit and it takes him 10 hours to get here. Don’t give me your shit that you can’t be here because your kid is sick!”

315 ObserverArt  Feb 3, 2015 10:14:11am

re: #313 b_sharp

What to do?

Open up a chain of “Spliff and a Beer” franchises.

I know you are joking, but then maybe not.

If it got people to chill out and take an hour out of their day to just think about the world, maybe get deep into reading or something rewarding then it might be a good thing.

316 Sionainn  Feb 3, 2015 10:14:21am

re: #310 ObserverArt

Hey all!

Just reading some of this mornings comments and I am now wondering if it going to take some kind of a huge human toll in some kind of a disease outbreak to reteach people how we need to pay attention to real professionals in professional positions like real practicing doctors and the like.

I see no other way. Seems only a damn good scare gets anyone to think straight…and even then reality is up against a pretty strong competitor in fake news and fake facts.

As far as the comments about the Millennials and their lack of concerns about some common issues that were learned the hard way, i wonder how much the internet plays into that issue?

We often discuss how the internet is used to distort real facts and allows people to find information that can confirm even the silliest thinking. Are the people born in the 90s the first real product of the internet info age?

If what we have seen these last few days regarding vaccinations and how their are many opinions on something that really should be one fact…then we are in a state of confusion as a society. Nothing good is going to come from that.

When first introduced to the internet back in 1994 or so, I thought it was the greatest thing ever. I am now to the point of thinking it may be a huge problem. I know it isn’t going away…but something is going to be needed to balance out all the bullshit that is just confusing so many real problems.

What to do…what to do???

We just had a conversation last night with our 10-year-old about the Internet and how great it is for finding information. We also had a discussion about how important it is to pay attention to the sources because not everything on the Internet is true. My husband was able to give a real world example of something that he looked up just the other day. Parents need to teach their children critical thinking skills. It starts at home.

317 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 10:14:24am

re: #314 Mattand

Quite frankly, if the story is on the level, he should look for another employer. Sounds like these guys knew he was going through hell to get to his low-paying job, and they only action they took was use him as a guilt trip for his co-workers.

“Lookit Robertson here! We don’t pay him shit and it takes him 10 hours to get here. Don’t give me your shit that you can’t be here because your kid is sick!”

What gets me is the morons who will read this man’s story and, instead of thinking that it is insane that we live in a nation where a man travels 21 miles by bus and foot to work for $10.55/hr, will think “Why do we have people on welfare when this guy’s walking so far to get to work?!”

318 Mattand  Feb 3, 2015 10:14:57am

re: #314 Mattand

I mean, Christ, he lives 20 miles away from the factory. You have an employee that dedicated, get some manager to fucking pick him up in the morning. We’re talking what, half an hour one way?

Or how about paying him a living wage so he can buy a car himself to get to your fucking worksite?

Look, I’m trying not to shit in the punch bowl here. What that kid did for Robertson is wonderful. But this is the shit I hear from the Fox seniors in my life.

They’re proud of the fact their community donated school supplies to their woefully underfunded SC school system, while ignoring the reason South Carolina schools are underfund in the first place.

Plus shiny new pencils don’t mean shit in a digital world if the kids aren’t training on decent computers.

Or like when you hear that Walmart has food drives for their own employees.

There’s charity, and there’s charity because someone else is too fucking cheap to do right by someone.

319 lawhawk  Feb 3, 2015 10:15:49am
320 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 3, 2015 10:17:55am

re: #307 b_sharp

Ron Paul World: Where every building is a court house and there are only two types of job - lawyer and janitor.

But then can we look forward to Attorney General “Funbags”?

Disclaimer: I love Sara Rue.

321 wrenchwench  Feb 3, 2015 10:19:28am
322 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 10:20:55am

I don’t have any polite words for this human being.

“Yes, on occasion someone gets measles and dies. But you can’t base your life on a few people,” Christine Abel of Vaccine Awareness recently told local news outlet Fox 9.

rawstory.com

323 lawhawk  Feb 3, 2015 10:22:38am

re: #322 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I vote her to the Island. Along with all the other anti-vaxxers, and let ‘em have at it with all the diseases that are wholly preventable by vaccination and see how long they last before they start crying foul.

I give them one week of chicken pox or shingles.

324 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 10:23:50am

re: #322 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I don’t have any polite words for this human being.

rawstory.com

What the fuck is wrong with these people?

325 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2015 10:24:08am

re: #322 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I don’t have any polite words for this human being.

rawstory.com

“Yes, on occasion someone gets measles and dies. But you can’t base your life on a few people,” Christine Abel of Vaccine Awareness recently told local news outlet Fox 9.

“You have to ask what’s wrong with them. Why did they die when most people don’t die?”

Yep, it’s all the victims’ fault that they died…

*spit*

326 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 10:27:25am

re: #323 lawhawk

I vote her to the Island. Along with all the other anti-vaxxers, and let ‘em have at it with all the diseases that are wholly preventable by vaccination and see how long they last before they start crying foul.

I give them one week of chicken pox or shingles.

Shingles isn’t painful enough for them and I’ve had Shingles. Really what a disgusting attitude to have. Fuck these people so much for putting others in danger due to their wacko beliefs.

327 TedStriker  Feb 3, 2015 10:28:30am

re: #322 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I don’t have any polite words for this human being.

rawstory.com

re: #324 HappyWarrior

What the fuck is wrong with these people?

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep, it’s all the victims’ fault that they died…

*spit*

Has this become an anti-vaxxer talking point? Didn’t that shithead cardiologist in AZ say the same exact thing a few days ago?

328 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 3, 2015 10:29:05am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep, it’s all the victims’ fault that they died…

*spit*

Yeah, anything bad happens to someone else’s kid, it’s the result of their inferiority. Something bad happens to their kid, something is to blame. Hey, he had that vaccine just six months ago….

329 Dr Lizardo  Feb 3, 2015 10:29:34am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

rawstory.com

“Yes, on occasion someone gets measles and dies. But you can’t base your life on a few people,” Christine Abel of Vaccine Awareness recently told local news outlet Fox 9.

“You have to ask what’s wrong with them. Why did they die when most people don’t die?”

I imagine the answer to her own question would go something like this…. “Warum nicht diese Leute haben die genetische Reinheit, die in der reinblütigen Herrenvolk zu finden ist?”

330 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2015 10:29:46am

re: #328 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah, anything bad happens to someone else’s kid, it’s the result of their inferiority. Something bad happens to their kid, something is to blame. Hey, he had that vaccine just six months ago….

THE VACCINE GAVE HIM THE DISEASE!!11!!

331 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 3, 2015 10:31:30am

re: #327 TedStriker

Has this become an anit-vaxxer talking point? Didn’t that shithead cardiologist in AZ say the same exact thing a few days ago?

It’s always been their main talking point. Vaccination is just the attempt of hoi polloi to drag their superior stock down to the common level of the diseased proles.

332 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 10:32:41am

re: #314 Mattand

Quite frankly, if the story is on the level, he should look for another employer. Sounds like these guys knew he was going through hell to get to his low-paying job, and they only action they took was use him as a guilt trip for his co-workers.

“Lookit Robertson here! We don’t pay him shit and it takes him 10 hours to get here. Don’t give me your shit that you can’t be here because your kid is sick!”

That must SO be a “Right to Work” shop

333 Sionainn  Feb 3, 2015 10:32:49am

re: #322 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I don’t have any polite words for this human being.

rawstory.com

She’s not a licensed R.N., either.

334 Sionainn  Feb 3, 2015 10:33:44am

re: #322 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I don’t have any polite words for this human being.

rawstory.com

There are fewer deaths or damage with vaccinations, so why would anyone take a chance with the diseases themselves?

335 Great White Snark  Feb 3, 2015 10:34:34am

re: #334 Sionainn

Selfish attachment to their own view, damn everyone else… well because.

336 jaunte  Feb 3, 2015 10:34:48am
337 Sionainn  Feb 3, 2015 10:35:48am

re: #336 jaunte

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Like I said in the comments on a page, I hope this is the issue that brings down the GOP. I’m seeing a lot of push back right now against these selfish morons.

338 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 3, 2015 10:35:56am

re:
#333

She’s not a licensed R.N., either.

[Chuck c Johnson]BREAKING: how is it that this Ebola nurse victim is a licensed nurse in all these different states? Sounds pretty fishy to me. Can someone email me the nurse’s address? I need a sammich.[/Chuck c Johnson]

339 Targetpractice  Feb 3, 2015 10:36:36am

But you can bet that those who are gambling their child’s health on medical science being wrong about vaccines are quick to rely upon medical science to keep their child alive when they catch a disease that the vaccine would have protected them from.

340 Ace-o-aces  Feb 3, 2015 10:39:04am
341 BeenHereAwhile  Feb 3, 2015 10:39:57am

re: #43 Decatur Deb

Haven’t encountered the CoR group—Mobile is at the other side of the state. We frequently drive by this classic from the linked collection:
Image: bb-christian17.jpg

It’s near the Second Largest Confederate Flag in the World.*

*SCV artifact near Clanton AL.

My favorite roadside church sign:

342 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2015 10:40:21am

re: #336 jaunte

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“I know my kids best. I know what morals and values are right for my children. I think we should not have an oppressive state telling us what to do.”

snip

Duffy, a former attorney, said that he prefers to “pick and choose” which vaccines his children receive.

“I vaccinate my kids on most things, but then there are some things where I’m like, ‘This may not work for me and my values and my family,’” he said.

hmmm…Gardasil for his daughters, perhaps?

343 No Country For Old Haters  Feb 3, 2015 10:40:35am

re: #334 Sionainn

There are fewer deaths or damage with vaccinations, so why would anyone take a chance with the diseases themselves?

Because they’re irresponsible free-riders who want the benefits of other people’s vaccinations, without taking the very slight risk themselves. They’re selfish, totally irresponsible assholes, who should be put on reservations where they can’t expose civilized people to their preventable diseases.

344 OhNoZombies!  Feb 3, 2015 10:40:44am

I don’t think its a stretch to assume that the majority of these anti-vaxxers were vaccinated themselves as children.
If the claim was that vaccines may cause hypocrisy and sometimes idiocy in a few people, then I would say the jury is still out and more research needs to be done.
But what came first…

345 lawhawk  Feb 3, 2015 10:41:11am

re: #334 Sionainn

Because some people don’t understand statistics, or how vaccine harm statistics are assembled.

Someone dies at some point after a vaccine is given, and that can count against the vaccine as a harm, even if it isn’t actually related. Same with autism. Just because the person appears to begin showing symptoms of autism spectrum disorders doesn’t mean autism is linked to vaccination that may have preceded it. But that’s how the anti-vaxxers link it. Action…. adverse event. Vaccination being the culprit, even though countless studies have debunked.

That’s what the Anti-Vaxxers count on - people not understanding the facts or information.

Millions of lives are improved b/c of vaccinations. We don’t have smallpox outbreaks anywhere in the world. We eradicated the disease, which was responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths during the 20th century alone.

Polio is nearly eradicated, and it’s gone in the US. We don’t have iron lung wings anymore, because of vaccinations.

Measles, mumps, diphtheria, tetanus. Same deal. Chicken pox too. All wholly preventable and largely eradicated. But the anti-vaxxers inroads are allowing them to gain a foothold again.

346 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 10:41:22am
347 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 10:42:13am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

snip

hmmm…Gardasil for his daughters, perhaps?

And yet i bet he’s okay with limiting the right to choose and gay couples to marry. His point would be valid if we weren’t talking about vaccines for contagious diseases.

348 jaunte  Feb 3, 2015 10:42:16am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

“This may not work for me and my values and my family”

349 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 3, 2015 10:42:22am

re: #339 Targetpractice

But you can bet that those who are gambling their child’s health on medical science being wrong about vaccines are quick to rely upon medical science to keep their child alive when they catch a disease that the vaccine would have protected them from.

It would be bad enough if they were only gambling their own children’s health. It wasn’t that long ago that pregnant women were terrified of catching measles.

350 No Country For Old Haters  Feb 3, 2015 10:42:27am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

snip

hmmm…Gardasil for his daughters, perhaps?

It’s weird how some people see ignorance and destructive beliefs as “values.” I blame Republican pandering to idiots. It’s just like how they call credulity “faith” and pretend it’s something of value.

351 Ace-o-aces  Feb 3, 2015 10:42:31am
352 lawhawk  Feb 3, 2015 10:44:09am

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh yeah, that may have something to do with it, even though that vaccine confer protections against several forms of cervical cancer.

Considering the cost of a cancer treatment, the vaccine jab is a no-brainer.

353 makeitstop  Feb 3, 2015 10:44:57am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep, it’s all the victims’ fault that they died…

*spit*

Good Lord.

I think over the next few years, we’re going to see a level of abject heartlessness and cruelty - even worse than it’s been since 2008 - because people are convincing themselves that it’s okay to be callous fuckheads in public.

Some days I’m thankful that I won’t live long enough to see the endgame, because it’s not going to be pretty.

354 Sionainn  Feb 3, 2015 10:45:27am

re: #341 BeenHereAwhile

My favorite roadside church sign:

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Is that an example of “speaking in tongues”?

355 Sionainn  Feb 3, 2015 10:47:17am

re: #348 jaunte

“This may not work for me and my values and my family”

Looks like another dude who thinks he owns his children.

356 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2015 10:49:05am

re: #355 Sionainn

Looks like another dude who thinks he owns his children.

Probably thinks he owns his wife, too.

357 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 10:49:31am

re: #348 jaunte

Is he talking about HPV, with the thinking involved being “My daughters won’t be sluts, so they don’t need this”?

358 Skip Intro  Feb 3, 2015 10:49:38am

re: #280 Dr. Matt

Fucking animals….

ISIS photos appear to show Jordanian pilot burned alive

Animals don’t do that, only the children of God do.

359 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 10:50:51am
At the time of his capture, his father, Safi al-Kassasbeh, told the Jordan Times that his son was “a very modest and religious person” who memorized the Quran and “was never harmful to anyone.”
360 Dr. Matt  Feb 3, 2015 10:51:05am

Speaking of the HPV vaccine, last month the FDA approved the 9-valent HPV vaccine. It includes the original 4 HPV types (6, 11, 16, & 18) in the quadrivalent, plus an additional 5 HPV types (31, 33, 45, 52, & 58). The new 9-valent has the potential to prevent approximately 90% of cervical, vulvar, vaginal and anal cancers.

361 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 10:51:26am

But watch the usual suspects turn this against all Muslims.

362 Ace-o-aces  Feb 3, 2015 10:53:11am
363 lawhawk  Feb 3, 2015 10:53:26am

And the anti-vaxxers there are known as terrorists.

364 OhNoZombies!  Feb 3, 2015 10:53:35am

re: #322 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I don’t have any polite words for this human being.

rawstory.com

I’m not saying I’m superstitious, but as a rule, I am very careful when I make statements regarding the health and safety of other people’s children.
Karma ain’t just a thing on LGF.

365 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 3, 2015 10:53:40am

re: #362 Ace-o-aces

On the other hand, don’t.

366 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 10:54:57am

Charles, Is there a way you could number our graphics. #1 being the oldest?

367 OhNoZombies!  Feb 3, 2015 10:55:10am

Ok maybe a little superstitious…

368 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 3, 2015 10:55:11am

re: #360 Dr. Matt

Speaking of the HPV vaccine, last month the FDA approved the 9-valent HPV vaccine. It includes the original 4 HPV types (6, 11, 16, & 18) in the quadrivalent, plus an additional 5 HPV types (31, 33, 45, 52, & 58). The new 9-valent has the potential to prevent approximately 90% of cervical, vulvar, vaginal and anal cancers.

Those slutty sluts don’t need no vaccine, just an aspirin—between their knees!! Hurr Hurr!!

369 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 3, 2015 10:55:18am

re: #361 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

But watch the usual suspects turn this against all Muslims.

And watch them clamor for us to do something immediately even though ISIS exists because we rashly did something, then rashly did something else in the region.

370 HappyWarrior  Feb 3, 2015 10:55:23am

re: #362 Ace-o-aces

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Having hands that smell like shit is freedom. Really this is all so laughable considering how they feel about choice, homosexuality, and any religion that isn’t conservative Christanity.

371 jaunte  Feb 3, 2015 10:55:27am

re: #357 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Is he talking about HPV, with the thinking involved being “My daughters won’t be sluts, so they don’t need this”?

It’s hard to say; I don’t think he was that specific.

372 Dr Lizardo  Feb 3, 2015 10:55:45am

re: #358 Skip Intro

Animals don’t do that, only the children of God do.

No shit.

As far as ISIS, what they’re doing is, quite bluntly, human sacrifice. They may claim to be Muslims til they’re blue in the face, but I’m saying their concept of God has far more in common with He Who Walks Behind The Rows than anything else.

373 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 10:57:00am

re: #316 Sionainn

Learning how to research is important!

374 Sionainn  Feb 3, 2015 10:57:18am

re: #360 Dr. Matt

Speaking of the HPV vaccine, last month the FDA approved the 9-valent HPV vaccine. It includes the original 4 HPV types (6, 11, 16, & 18) in the quadrivalent, plus an additional 5 HPV types (31, 33, 45, 52, & 58). The new 9-valent has the potential to prevent approximately 90% of cervical, vulvar, vaginal and anal cancers.

Wow! That’s fantastic.

375 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 10:57:51am

re: #318 Mattand

I mean, Christ, he lives 20 miles away from the factory. You have an employee that dedicated, get some manager to fucking pick him up in the morning. We’re talking what, half an hour one way?

Or how about paying him a living wage so he can buy a car himself to get to your fucking worksite?

Look, I’m trying not to shit in the punch bowl here. What that kid did for Robertson is wonderful. But this is the shit I hear from the Fox seniors in my life.

They’re proud of the fact their community donated school supplies to their woefully underfunded SC school system, while ignoring the reason South Carolina schools are underfund in the first place.

Plus shiny new pencils don’t mean shit in a digital world if the kids aren’t training on decent computers.

Or like when you hear that Walmart has food drives for their own employees.

There’s charity, and there’s charity because someone else is too fucking cheap to do right by someone.

In my part of the world, Chicagoland, 20 miles isn’t that big of a commute.

376 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 3, 2015 10:58:13am

re: #372 Dr Lizardo

No shit.

As far as ISIS, what they’re doing is, quite bluntly, human sacrifice. They may claim to be Muslims til they’re blue in the face, but I’m saying their concept of God has far more in common with He Who Walks Behind The Rows than anything else.

What they’re doing is calculated provocation because they know that every time the West overreacts things get better for them. They take some losses, but their recruitment goes through the ceiling.

377 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 3, 2015 10:58:53am
378 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 10:59:06am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep, it’s all the victims’ fault that they died…

*spit*

They probably didn’t love Jesus enough …

*spit*

379 jaunte  Feb 3, 2015 10:59:06am

re: #370 HappyWarrior

380 Ace-o-aces  Feb 3, 2015 11:00:18am

Think about that. SOMALIA has gotten it together enough to provide universal coverage. They didn’t have a government 3 years ago and they’ve already passed the US on this!

381 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 11:00:35am

re: #345 lawhawk

Because some people don’t understand statistics, or how vaccine harm statistics are assembled.

Someone dies at some point after a vaccine is given, and that can count against the vaccine as a harm, even if it isn’t actually related. Same with autism. Just because the person appears to begin showing symptoms of autism spectrum disorders doesn’t mean autism is linked to vaccination that may have preceded it. But that’s how the anti-vaxxers link it. Action…. adverse event. Vaccination being the culprit, even though countless studies have debunked.

That’s what the Anti-Vaxxers count on - people not understanding the facts or information.

Millions of lives are improved b/c of vaccinations. We don’t have smallpox outbreaks anywhere in the world. We eradicated the disease, which was responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths during the 20th century alone.

Polio is nearly eradicated, and it’s gone in the US. We don’t have iron lung wings anymore, because of vaccinations.

Measles, mumps, diphtheria, tetanus. Same deal. Chicken pox too. All wholly preventable and largely eradicated. But the anti-vaxxers inroads are allowing them to gain a foothold again.

correlation does not mean causation?

382 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2015 11:00:46am

re: #371 jaunte

It’s hard to say; I don’t think he was that specific.

Not too many vaccines out there that have to do with activity related to “moral behavior”.

383 jaunte  Feb 3, 2015 11:01:26am
384 Sionainn  Feb 3, 2015 11:01:46am

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not too many vaccines out there that have to do with activity related to “moral behavior”.

Maybe the Hep B vaccine.

385 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 11:01:55am

re: #363 lawhawk

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And the anti-vaxxers there are known as terrorists.

EXCELLENT!

386 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2015 11:02:22am

re: #384 Sionainn

Maybe the Hep B vaccine.

Yes, but you’re more likely to catch it other ways.

387 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 11:02:24am

re: #364 OhNoZombies!

I’m not saying I’m superstitious, but as a rule, I am very careful when I make statements regarding the health and safety of other people’s children.
Karma ain’t just a thing on LGF.

Karma translated means “action”.

388 #FergusonFireside  Feb 3, 2015 11:03:02am

re: #383 jaunte

The Doctor Who Championed Hand-Washing And Briefly Saved Lives

Semmelweis and “childbed fever.”

I heard that. Good story.

389 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 3, 2015 11:04:23am

Also, Rep. Duffy apparently doesn’t understand that women contract HPV from men.
So his virgin snowflake daughters don’t get any special “moral” immunity.

390 FemNaziBitch  Feb 3, 2015 11:05:21am
391 Great White Snark  Feb 3, 2015 11:06:49am

..

392 Great White Snark  Feb 3, 2015 11:08:12am

re: #358 Skip Intro

Animals don’t do that, only the children of God do.

re: #361 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

But watch the usual suspects turn this against all Muslims.

Some might even blame all religious people.

393 OhNoZombies!  Feb 3, 2015 11:09:55am

re: #387 FemNaziBitch

Karma translated means “action”.

Yes, and I mean negative action in the ooga-booga sense of the word.

394 ObserverArt  Feb 3, 2015 11:14:19am

re: #344 OhNoZombies!

I don’t think its a stretch to assume that the majority of these anti-vaxxers were vaccinated themselves as children.
If the claim was that vaccines may cause hypocrisy and sometimes idiocy in a few people, then I would say the jury is still out and more research needs to be done.
But what came first…

I was asking if Jenny McCarthy had childhood vaccinations on Sunday and if she had autism because of it.

By the way, I saw a clip of Ms. McCarthy yesterday (on MSNBC?) where she was backing off calling vaccinations the direct cause of autism and saying that she felt they were triggers for autism.

She gave an example…here is a video…not the same as I saw last night, but the same trigger BS. Warning…she is smug, in my opinion anyway.

395 Single-handed sailor  Feb 3, 2015 11:24:11am

re: #313 b_sharp

What to do?

Open up a chain of “Spliff and a Beer” franchises.

I always wanted to open a Saloondromat…

396 b_sharp  Feb 3, 2015 11:43:21am

re: #345 lawhawk

Because some people don’t understand statistics, or how vaccine harm statistics are assembled.

Someone dies at some point after a vaccine is given, and that can count against the vaccine as a harm, even if it isn’t actually related. Same with autism. Just because the person appears to begin showing symptoms of autism spectrum disorders doesn’t mean autism is linked to vaccination that may have preceded it. But that’s how the anti-vaxxers link it. Action…. adverse event. Vaccination being the culprit, even though countless studies have debunked.

That’s what the Anti-Vaxxers count on - people not understanding the facts or information.

Millions of lives are improved b/c of vaccinations. We don’t have smallpox outbreaks anywhere in the world. We eradicated the disease, which was responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths during the 20th century alone.

Polio is nearly eradicated, and it’s gone in the US. We don’t have iron lung wings anymore, because of vaccinations.

Measles, mumps, diphtheria, tetanus. Same deal. Chicken pox too. All wholly preventable and largely eradicated. But the anti-vaxxers inroads are allowing them to gain a foothold again.

Don’t you just hate the smell of post hoc ergo propter hoc in the evening?

397 b_sharp  Feb 3, 2015 11:44:38am

re: #352 lawhawk

Oh yeah, that may have something to do with it, even though that vaccine confer protections against several forms of cervical cancer.

Considering the cost of a cancer treatment, the vaccine jab is a no-brainer.

But his daughters will become sluts if they know God won’t punish them with cancer if they go naughty.

398 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 3, 2015 11:48:50am

re: #253 FemNaziBitch

big suprise there . .

Indiana is the first of more than 30 states to enact a compulsory sterilization law, allowing the state to “prevent procreation of confirmed criminals, idiots, imbeciles and rapists.” By 1940, 18,552 mentally ill people are surgically sterilized.

IT ISN’T WORKING!!!!

399 Eventual Carrion  Feb 3, 2015 11:55:33am

re: #346 The Vicious Babushka

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He just needs to work a little harder to be “worth” it. Because a company will treat its employees right. Just like the coal mine owners.

400 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 3, 2015 12:14:51pm

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Libertarianism also rests on the fallacious notion that the Free Market is some sort of divine natural state, not one that requires a functioning infrastructure (both physical and legislative/regulatory) in order to function for the benefit of everyone and not just the suppliers.

Which means it shares the same general weakness as the other -isms in assuming some sort of unnatural state where man does not act like man, has perfect information, and makes logical decisions.
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