Twitter CEO Dick Costolo: ‘We Suck at Dealing With Abuse’

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Tonight we’re getting news of a fascinating statement from Twitter’s CEO: ‘We Suck at Dealing With Abuse’.

Twitter CEO Dick Costolo is taking personal responsibility for his platform’s chronic problems with harassment and abuse, telling employees that he is embarrassed for the company’s failures and would soon be taking stronger action to eliminate trolls. He said problems with trolls are driving away the company’s users. “We suck at dealing with abuse and trolls on the platform and we’ve sucked at it for years,” Costolo wrote in an internal memo obtained by The Verge. “It’s no secret and the rest of the world talks about it every day. We lose core user after core user by not addressing simple trolling issues that they face every day.”

“IT’S NOBODY’S FAULT BUT MINE.”

Costolo’s comments came in response to a question on an internal forum about a recent story by Lindy West, a frequent target of harassment on Twitter. Among other things, West’s tormentors created a Twitter account for her then recently-deceased father and made cruel comments about her on the service; West recently shared her story on This American Life and the Guardian. On Twitter’s forums, an employee asked whether anything could be done:

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Adrian Cole wrote:

A must read in its own right about cyberbullying. One section suggests Twitter can just do more.

“I’m aware that Twitter is well within its rights to let its platform be used as a vehicle for sexist and racist harassment. But, as a private company - just like a comedian mulling over a rape joke, or a troll looking for a target for his anger - it could choose not to. As a collective of human beings, it could choose to be better.”

In response, Costolo made a frank acknowledgement of Twitter’s slowness to adopt tools to combat trolls.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Dick Costolo wrote:

We suck at dealing with abuse and trolls on the platform and we’ve sucked at it for years. It’s no secret and the rest of the world talks about it every day. We lose core user after core user by not addressing simple trolling issues that they face every day.

I’m frankly ashamed of how poorly we’ve dealt with this issue during my tenure as CEO. It’s absurd. There’s no excuse for it. I take full responsibility for not being more aggressive on this front. It’s nobody else’s fault but mine, and it’s embarrassing.

We’re going to start kicking these people off right and left and making sure that when they issue their ridiculous attacks, nobody hears them.

Everybody on the leadership team knows this is vital.

@dickc

I hope this isn’t just a PR statement, and that it leads to a real commitment to putting a stop to the outrageous harassment Twitter has been enabling and tolerating for years. The worst of it is directed at women; they’re the targets of unbelievably misogynistic stalking on Twitter. But it’s not just women; people who follow me on Twitter are no doubt aware that there is a sizable group of right wing lunatics who have been stalking and harassing me and my followers ever since I opened my account years ago.

It’s time for Twitter to step up and deal with this huge problem.

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317 comments

1 TedStriker  Feb 4, 2015 10:06:17pm

I’ll believe it when I see the likes of Chuck’s account (and his quest for the vaunted blue checkmark) vanish like a fart in the wind, never to return.

2 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 4, 2015 10:07:47pm

But, But, But…FREEZE PEACH!!!!

3 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 4, 2015 10:35:08pm

Shrug. I do not think it’s anything more than PR and it’s why I won’t bother with Twitter. They aren’t worth the hassle.

4 Kragar  Feb 4, 2015 10:40:27pm

I’ll believe it when they do something about it

5 weltallica  Feb 4, 2015 11:16:45pm

You realise it’s comments from people like YOU that would be reported for harassment, right? We are seeing the dawn of an age where seeing anyone disagree with you is “harassment”. YOU have disproven many talking points, written respectfully, and provided linked evidence. For that, YOU would be reported for harassment.

Go ahead, just try and write an opposing view on any anti-vaxx/anti-gamer/Birther forum, and see just how fast they block/ban you; not for breaking any rule, but because you had the disgusting temerity to say “Actually, that’s wrong, and here’s proof…” Or sit there, wrapped in your Blanket of Good Intentions, and keep repeating “No, this would never be misused. People just wouldn’t do that. When presented with evidence, people change their minds. I’m sure they do. I see it all the time… haven’t I?”

“We are less racist, sexist, and homophobic than we’ve ever been, but we do have one continuing problem: we don’t want to be around anyone who disagrees with us. More than ever before.” - Bill Clinton

6 Alyosha  Feb 4, 2015 11:24:11pm

re: #5 weltallica

You realize that we’re not just talking about civil disagreement, right? We’re talking honest-to-gawd stalkers, doxxers, misogynistic creeps trying to out vulnerable victims. We’re talking anti-Semites and MRAs who spew filth that would be shouted down and ridiculed to loud applause in the streets.
I think that if you’re going to front a legit social networking service you owe it to your consumers to weed out the trolls and worse.
They’ll still have a precious fucking voice at Stormfront.

7 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 4, 2015 11:31:02pm

re: #5 weltallica

That sound? That was the point going over your head.

Not that it matters. There isn’t any profit in running a civilized service in an uncivilized land.

8 Alyosha  Feb 4, 2015 11:32:47pm

re: #5 weltallica

And for the record, coming to LGF and expecting to be banned simply for stating an unpopular opinion, equating this site with the Birthers and the anti-vax crowd, is a flagrant display of ignorance.

9 Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2015 11:39:58pm

Sure didn’t take long for an entitled asshole to show up, did it?

10 Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2015 11:43:08pm

I’ll never understand what makes people like this believe they have a right to use a private service provided by someone else to spew whatever noxious crap they feel like emitting.

11 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 4, 2015 11:44:29pm

Or that the concept of “First Amendment Rights” means the right to say anything anywhere without consequence.

12 Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2015 11:44:47pm

I was going to suspend this one, but no — let’s see how far he wants to take this. I have a feeling I know who this is, by the way.

13 Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2015 12:03:03am

re: #8 Alyosha

We have lots of people at LGF who express opinions that aren’t popular. But free speech absolutists who think we have to let every person say whatever they want, no matter how ugly or hostile or threatening, are incredibly tedious and naive. Grow up.

14 Varek Raith  Feb 5, 2015 12:16:34am

re: #5 weltallica

What the hell does this drivel even mean?

15 dog philosopher  Feb 5, 2015 12:27:23am

having a fabulously tedious data entry late nite

16 Kragar  Feb 5, 2015 12:28:37am
17 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 5, 2015 12:36:22am

re: #14 Varek Raith

What the hell does this drivel even mean?

My interpretation is that weltallica thinks that if Twitter institutes a policy of reducing threats, abuse, stalking, etc., that the users to be removed will be the reasonable people who disagree with them.

S/he gave the examples of anti-vaxxers and Birthers, who will immediately block anyone who disagrees with them, because in their warped view, that constitutes harrassment. They will be the ones doing the complaining, and those who oppose them will be the ones removed.

Everybody else seems to be interpreting his/her post differently, however, so I’ll shut up now.

18 dog philosopher  Feb 5, 2015 12:40:39am

re: #16 Kragar

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brilliant

19 Lidane  Feb 5, 2015 12:53:27am

re: #14 Varek Raith

What the hell does this drivel even mean?

Shorter post #5: PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEE CHARLES!

20 Kragar  Feb 5, 2015 1:15:30am

I tried watching one or two of the CSI shows on Netflix and honestly, I just can’t bring myself to watch them. The sheer ridiculousness of them is just overwhelming.

“Yes, I’m the on duty crime scene photographer. Why else would I show up in a city park at 3:00 am wearing a power dress worth more than I would reasonably make in a month and heels so I can traipse around in the mud? Don’t worry, I’ll be able to enhance this photo, then we can digitize it and we’ll be able to triangulate the location of a victim based on cut and paste/drag and dropping from a JPG into a map program.”

For the love of fuck people, how the hell did this shit make it on air?

21 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 1:22:12am

re: #20 Kragar

For the love of fuck people, how the hell did this shit make it on air?

Because people without a life think this is real life. There was a recent article that pointed out a common TV plot device: to show that a character is in true despair and has hit bottom, they show them at home…watching TV.

22 Dr Lizardo  Feb 5, 2015 1:32:57am

re: #20 Kragar

I tried watching one or two of the CSI shows on Netflix and honestly, I just can’t bring myself to watch them. The sheer ridiculousness of them is just overwhelming.

“Yes, I’m the on duty crime scene photographer. Why else would I show up in a city park at 3:00 am wearing a power dress worth more than I would reasonably make in a month and heels so I can traipse around in the mud? Don’t worry, I’ll be able to enhance this photo, then we can digitize it and we’ll be able to triangulate the location of a victim based on cut and paste/drag and dropping from a JPG into a map program.”

For the love of fuck people, how the hell did this shit make it on air?

I despise CSI and its variants. I recently had one of my students - she was a big fan of CSI and its offspring - to sit down and watch David Fincher’s 2007 film Zodiac for a more realistic view of how police investigation actually works, and how tedious and frustrating it can be, especially in high-profile cases like the Zodiac Killer; how many investigative dead-ends there can be, focusing on the wrong suspect, an investigator’s instinct leading them astray or going down blind alleys.

And how sometimes, even with the best of efforts, the real-life villains remain at large.

She’s come to the conclusion that CSI is typical “Hollywood happy-ending” claptrap.

23 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 1:47:22am

So they are going to turn this primary campaign into TP vs Establishment:

Fallen Republican Cantor Joins Jeb Bush for Virginia Fundraiser

Let us hope it is a long and desperate struggle that carries all the way to the convention floor…

24 Lidane  Feb 5, 2015 1:59:06am

re: #20 Kragar

For the love of fuck people, how the hell did this shit make it on air?

Two words: Jerry Bruckheimer. He’s one of the executive producers.

25 BadExampleMan  Feb 5, 2015 2:30:06am

Seems to me if it were PR drivel it would be more of a “mistakes were made” and maybe they’d find an intern to blame for it. The fact that the CEO says in no uncertain terms “IT’S NOBODY’S FAULT BUT MINE” and makes some concrete pledges of how things are going to change…well, first it makes me wonder how he got to be a C-level if he’s in the habit of admitting error and taking responsibility, but that aside it sounds like someone who at least has good intentions. He’s still facing a formidable technical problem. Just the scale of trying to police how many hundreds of millions of users?

We’ll see.

26 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 5, 2015 2:31:20am

Twitter can’t ban them soon enough. But after seeing how they dealt with Upchuck, I have my doubts. I don’t believe this guy woke up and had an epiphany. I’ll believe it when I see it.

27 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 2:45:36am

re: #26 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Twitter can’t ban them soon enough. But after seeing how they dealt with Upchuck, I have my doubts. I don’t believe this guy woke up and had an epiphany. I’ll believe it when I see it.

This was like when the US Secretary of Defense, faced with a major drop in female enlistments, declared a “zero-tolerance” policy towards sexual harassment and instituted a show trial to show that its intentions were genuine.

They picked out a troublemaker, a Master Sergeant (the highest-ranking enlisted grade), who was later acquitted on charges of sexual harassment but charged with tampering with evidence.

In other words, he didn’t do it, but he lied about not having done it. He received an honorable discharge and got to keep his pension and benefits.

That’s what they called “cracking down”.

28 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2015 3:16:22am

It’s cold and white outside.
I’m jealous of this panda:

29 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 5, 2015 3:52:09am

re: #5 weltallica

The point!
30 Alyosha  Feb 5, 2015 3:56:07am

I feel like a putz for imbedding its comment now that it has been folded up.
<facepalm>

31 Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2015 3:58:06am

re: #17 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My interpretation is that weltallica thinks that if Twitter institutes a policy of reducing threats, abuse, stalking, etc., that the users to be removed will be the reasonable people who disagree with them.

S/he gave the examples of anti-vaxxers and Birthers, who will immediately block anyone who disagrees with them, because in their warped view, that constitutes harrassment. They will be the ones doing the complaining, and those who oppose them will be the ones removed.

Everybody else seems to be interpreting his/her post differently, however, so I’ll shut up now.

Weltallica’s error is immediately assuming the fix would depend on repeated reports. Stinky does not wield the cricket bat based on our jurying a comment. Twitter could only fix its mess with a man-in-the-loop system or a really smart bot.

32 Varek Raith  Feb 5, 2015 4:02:09am

re: #20 Kragar

I tried watching one or two of the CSI shows on Netflix and honestly, I just can’t bring myself to watch them. The sheer ridiculousness of them is just overwhelming.

“Yes, I’m the on duty crime scene photographer. Why else would I show up in a city park at 3:00 am wearing a power dress worth more than I would reasonably make in a month and heels so I can traipse around in the mud? Don’t worry, I’ll be able to enhance this photo, then we can digitize it and we’ll be able to triangulate the location of a victim based on cut and paste/drag and dropping from a JPG into a map program.”

For the love of fuck people, how the hell did this shit make it on air?

And their crime labs with hundreds of thousands in equipment that no real lab has. Not to mention the fantasy gadgets and software.
Wheee!

33 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 5, 2015 4:03:36am

re: #32 Varek Raith

And their crime labs with hundreds of thousands in equipment that no real lab has. Not too mention the fantasy gadgets and software.
Wheee!

The regular crime labs can’t even get through the backlog of rape kits that need to be processed.

That said, you can take away my “Bones” and “Criminal Minds” when you pry them from my cold, dead phalanges.

34 Timothy Watson  Feb 5, 2015 4:15:14am

re: #20 Kragar

I tried watching one or two of the CSI shows on Netflix and honestly, I just can’t bring myself to watch them. The sheer ridiculousness of them is just overwhelming.

“Yes, I’m the on duty crime scene photographer. Why else would I show up in a city park at 3:00 am wearing a power dress worth more than I would reasonably make in a month and heels so I can traipse around in the mud? Don’t worry, I’ll be able to enhance this photo, then we can digitize it and we’ll be able to triangulate the location of a victim based on cut and paste/drag and dropping from a JPG into a map program.”

For the love of fuck people, how the hell did this shit make it on air?

The first couple seasons of the original show were kinda interesting and kept the absurd to a manageable level. After that? Ugh, awful.

In one of episode of CSI: Miami, the bad guy built some kind of drone, which he mounted on the underside of his car, to shot a bullet at someone using the person’s cellphone GPS signal.

Seriously.

The bad thing is the negative affect the shows have had on the trial process (Google “CSI effect”), where jurors expect absurd levels of forensic science before they’re willing to convict a defendant, particularly for less serious crimes where the government isn’t going to pay for a couple dozen DNA tests, etc.

Unfortunately, CSI isn’t alone promoting the absolute absurd, Bones and NCIS are right up there with it, the Law & Order series use some of the same stupid plot gimmicks.

About the only shows I’ve ever really enjoyed have been Southland, where the detectives use this thing called detective work, you know, going around interviewing people, to catch criminals; and The Closer, where the main characters are more likely to lie about having forensic evidence to get a confession (the show is often morally dubious if you haven’t seen it) than to actually have it.

See also, Cracked:
cracked.com
cracked.com

35 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 5, 2015 4:18:23am

re: #34 Timothy Watson

Unfortunately, CSI isn’t alone promoting the absolute absurd, Bones and NCIS are right up there with it, the Law & Order series use some of the same stupid plot gimmicks.

cracked.com
cracked.com

I like Bones because of the characters and the romantic involvements. I know the science isn’t that great (although supposedly based on a real forensic anthropologist). It’s sorta popcorn or cotton candy of TV for me, since I don’t watch reality TV.

Edit: Will have to check out Southland. Also, anyone remember Hill Street Blues. That was a pretty good cop show. I swear sometimes TV thinks the only people in the world are medical personnel, lawyers, and cops.

36 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 4:29:23am

re: #20 Kragar

I tried watching one or two of the CSI shows on Netflix and honestly, I just can’t bring myself to watch them. The sheer ridiculousness of them is just overwhelming.

“Yes, I’m the on duty crime scene photographer. Why else would I show up in a city park at 3:00 am wearing a power dress worth more than I would reasonably make in a month and heels so I can traipse around in the mud? Don’t worry, I’ll be able to enhance this photo, then we can digitize it and we’ll be able to triangulate the location of a victim based on cut and paste/drag and dropping from a JPG into a map program.”

For the love of fuck people, how the hell did this shit make it on air?

I stopped watching my favorite show, NCIS: Los Angeles (my favorite because LINDA HUNT IS SUCH A BADASS), when I realized that EVERY FUCKING EPISODE contains a shootout either in some public venue full of civilians, or in a private residence where the walls and furniture are shredded with automatic weapons fire.

Every. Single. Episode. And sometimes more than once (shootout in some guy’s house, then another shootout at the mall or on the beach)

37 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 4:33:13am

re: #34 Timothy Watson

See also, Cracked:
cracked.com

Oh yes, Cracked. That famous scene in NCIS where Abby and McGee are both pounding on the same keyboard.

38 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 5, 2015 4:34:03am

re: #36 The Vicious Babushka

I stopped watching my favorite show, NCIS: Los Angeles (my favorite because LINDA HUNT IS SUCH A BADASS), when I realized that EVERY FUCKING EPISODE contains a shootout either in some public venue full of civilians, or in a private residence where the walls and furniture are shredded with automatic weapons fire.

Every. Single. Episode. And sometimes more than once (shootout in some guy’s house, then another shootout at the mall or on the beach)

Shades of the A-Team.

One thing I like about Criminal Minds is that they *usually* will try to talk the murderer down from killing anyone. They aren’t always successful, but there are enough times when they do that it’s worthwhile.

39 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 5, 2015 4:34:54am

All that said, the computer skills of these people, typing 200wpm and finding information at the drop of a hat? Yeah, I doubt it.

40 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 4:35:31am

re: #35 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I like Bones because of the characters and the romantic involvements. I know the science isn’t that great (although supposedly based on a real forensic anthropologist). It’s sorta popcorn or cotton candy of TV for me, since I don’t watch reality TV.

I like the Bones show because I have read all the Kathy Reichs novels, but Tempe on the TV show is a completely different character than Tempe in the books.

Rizzoli & Isles is even worse. In the books, Rizzoli is the plain, fat one and Isles is the knockout brunette, also Isles boyfriend is a Catholic priest.

41 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 4:36:23am

re: #39 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

All that said, the computer skills of these people, typing 200wpm and finding information at the drop of a hat? Yeah, I doubt it.

Penelope Garcia has some mad SQL skillz and invades privacy without a warrant.

42 Thanos  Feb 5, 2015 4:36:53am

Don’t forget the Criminal Minds “gun scrum” — that scene in every show where the ensemble cast model struts through the rooms of a house while glaring down the sights of their pistol yelling “CLEAR!” “CLEAR!” “CLEAR!” even though nobody’s looked behind any couches, doors, or into any closets.

43 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 4:37:24am

re: #38 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Shades of the A-Team.

One thing I like about Criminal Minds is that they *usually* will try to talk the murderer down from killing anyone. They aren’t always successful, but there are enough times when they do that it’s worthwhile.

I still like Criminal Minds because Shemar Moore is THE. HOTTEST. MAN. ON. TELEVISION.

44 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 5, 2015 4:40:40am

re: #41 The Vicious Babushka

Penelope Garcia has some mad SQL skillz and invades privacy without a warrant.

I’m still waiting for penelope and morgan to get together. NO SPOILERS! I’m only on season 9 :)

45 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 5, 2015 4:41:43am

re: #40 The Vicious Babushka

I like the Bones show because I have read all the Kathy Reichs novels, but Tempe on the TV show is a completely different character than Tempe in the books.

Rizzoli & Isles is even worse. In the books, Rizzoli is the plain, fat one and Isles is the knockout brunette, also Isles boyfriend is a Catholic priest.

Interesting. I haven’t read any of the books. Will have to check them out.

46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 5, 2015 4:44:25am

My girlfriend watches all these kinds of shows, but it was never a genre I was interested in. I finally got into Bones once I realized it was a comedy—kind of a black comedy, but still.

Then there was a period I didn’t see it at all (I don’t remember why) and it went from nothing having really happened between her and Easter-Island-Head, and then the next thing I know, they’re living together and she’s pregnant. What the….

So now I’m trying to catch upon all the old reruns to find out how that happened. Mostly I watch it to perv on Michaela Conlin, though.

47 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 5, 2015 4:45:12am

re: #20 Kragar

You want ridiculous? I raise you one scene from Scorpion.

48 Timothy Watson  Feb 5, 2015 4:45:24am

re: #38 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Shades of the A-Team.

One thing I like about Criminal Minds is that they *usually* will try to talk the murderer down from killing anyone. They aren’t always successful, but there are enough times when they do that it’s worthwhile.

I have a lot of problems with Criminal Minds, but I think Mandy Patinkin went over the worse of them when he left the show.

49 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 5, 2015 4:45:58am

re: #44 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I’m still waiting for penelope and morgan to get together. NO SPOILERS! I’m only on season 9 :)

Penelope is a fucking goddess. And I’m glad they’re willing to give her a kind of romantic story like that.

50 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 5, 2015 4:46:25am

re: #48 Timothy Watson

I have a lot of problems with Criminal Minds, but I think Mandy Patinkin went over the worse of them when he left the show.

I kinda miss Mandy. He’s always a great actor. Joe Montagne is good, but not quite the same presence.

51 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 4:46:35am

re: #46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My girlfriend watches all these kinds of shows, but it was never a genre I was interested in. I finally got into Bones once I realized it was a comedy—kind of a black comedy, but still.

Then there was a period I didn’t see it at all (I don’t remember why) and it went from nothing having really happened between her and Easter-Island-Head, and then the next thing I know, they’re living together and she’s pregnant. What the….

So now I’m trying to catch upon all the old reruns to find out how that happened. Mostly I watch it to perv on Michaela Conlin, though.

Bones in the books is very different. There is no such place as the “Jeffersonian” (that was made up for the TV show). Bones is older, divorced with an adult daughter who is in the military. Her boyfriend is a Canadian cop. Not even a Mountie, just a Montreal cop, but an English speaker.

52 Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2015 4:53:41am
53 wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2015 4:54:28am

I don’t think ‘reasonableness’ is measured by the ‘frenzy’. Maybe it’s a translation problem.

54 wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2015 4:55:25am
55 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 4:56:27am

re: #53 wrenchwench

I don’t think ‘reasonableness’ is measured by the ‘frenzy’. Maybe it’s a translation problem.

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They plan to set new standards of arbitrariness.

56 Teukka  Feb 5, 2015 4:56:44am

I know, OT, but I don’t know what to make of it:

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57 Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2015 5:03:23am

I’m no fan of Brian Williams…at all. He’s a slick version of Joe Scarborough. He’s not a lefty, a liberal, or a progressive. But, it’s interesting that he’s being eviscerated for his exaggerations and yet the quote below went unnoticed by the librul media.

“But I tell you what, I’ve been in combat. I’ve seen it. I’ve been close to it. And if my unit is in danger and I got a captured guy and the guy knows where the enemy is and I’m looking him in the eye, the guy better tell me. That’s all I’m gonna tell you.”

Guess who said this:

58 wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2015 5:06:38am
59 Timothy Watson  Feb 5, 2015 5:12:00am

Alex Jones is also a misogynist:

Radio host and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones defended one of his former guests, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), in a video posted online Tuesday by taunting a female journalist who questioned the senator about his views on vaccinations as a “whore.”

CNBC host Kelly Evans had challenged Paul for arguing that vaccination should be “voluntary” amid a rapidly spreading measles outbreak. That exchange prompted Jones to slam the Evans as a “media whore” and a “pimp” whose purpose is to “whore out the American people and sell us lies.”

This is my shocked face.
talkingpointsmemo.com

60 Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2015 5:23:21am

Interesting story that I never knew about until today: 1958 Tybee Island mid-air collision

61 Teukka  Feb 5, 2015 5:25:20am

re: #60 Dr. Matt

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Interesting story that I never knew about until today: 1958 Tybee Island mid-air collision

Interesting tidbit of knowledge… Out of 32 “broken arrows”, only 26 nukes have been successfully recovered. Tybee Island being one of the 6.

62 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 5:26:16am

re: #61 Teukka

Interesting tidbit of knowledge… Out of 32 “broken arrows”, only 26 nukes have been successfully recovered. Tybee Island being one of the 6.

Don’t want to think about how many Soviet nukes got lost or misplaced…

63 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2015 5:26:33am

re: #60 Dr. Matt

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Interesting story that I never knew about until today: 1958 Tybee Island mid-air collision

Pretty sure Brian Williams was there…

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64 Teukka  Feb 5, 2015 5:30:35am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Don’t want to think about how many Soviet nukes got lost or misplaced…

I don’t want to think of the state of the mechanisms which prevent independent launch in Russian nukes :(

65 wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2015 5:30:49am
66 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 5:33:38am

The latest meme in the Chris Kyle hagiography is that the man who shot him was HURR HURR A SEEKRIT MUSLIM TERRIST!!!!1!!!! who somehow conned the HERO!!!!1!!! into thinking he was a troubled vet and taking him to the gun range for some manly fun.

67 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 5:34:56am

re: #64 Teukka

I don’t want to think of the state of the mechanisms which prevent independent launch in Russian nukes :(

I basically don’t wanna think about Russian nukes.

Now recall that the demise of the USSR left the Ukraine with the fifth-largest nuclear arsenal in the world. Which they totally disarmed in exchange for guarantees from the West to help maintain their territorial integrity.

I think that in order to be fair, we should give them their nukes back…

68 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 5, 2015 5:35:18am

re: #60 Dr. Matt

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Interesting story that I never knew about until today: 1958 Tybee Island mid-air collision

From that Wiki article:

Nevertheless, a study of the Strategic Air Command documents indicates that in February 1958, Alert Force test flights (with the older Mark 15 payloads) were not authorized to fly with nuclear capsules on board. Such approval was pending deployment of safer “sealed-pit nuclear capsule” weapons that did not begin deployment until June 1958.[7

This sounds reasonable to me. Starting after the new “two-point air lens” primaries went into service, they would move heaven and earth to find any lost bombs—like in Spain in 1965—because with them the pit couldn’t be cranked in and out during flight like the old ones.

Of course, that caused a new problem: what happens if only one detonator goes off—because of a stray electric pulse or an impact? It seems certain now that they were flying around over our heads for several years with bombs that were not “single-point-safe.”

69 Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2015 5:35:41am

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pretty sure Brian Williams was there…

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hahaha. Well played. :)

70 wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2015 5:38:12am

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pretty sure Brian Williams was there…

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71 Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2015 5:42:56am
72 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 5:43:51am

re: #71 Dr. Matt

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IOW fewer cases of ebola in Africa than measles in the U.S.

73 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 5:44:47am

re: #72 The Vicious Babushka

IOW fewer cases of ebola in Africa than measles in the U.S.

But measles is not a serious disease.

/

74 b.d.  Feb 5, 2015 5:48:32am

re: #72 The Vicious Babushka

IOW fewer cases of ebola in Africa than measles in the U.S.

They have less illegals there!!1!

75 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2015 5:50:31am

Outside temperature keeps dropping.
I might just go back to bed…

76 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 5:59:53am

Too soon to cross the streams?

77 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 6:00:50am

re:
#66

My shocked face…

78 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 6:02:02am

re: #77 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#66

My shocked face…

79 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 6:03:14am

re:
#36

Between NCIS, NCISLA, and NCISNawlins, I’m highly suspicious that there can be this much violent crime in the Naval and Marine services. ///

80 KerFuFFler  Feb 5, 2015 6:03:24am

re: #35 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

” I swear sometimes TV thinks the only people in the world are medical personnel, lawyers, and cops.”

Doctors and cops are involved in life and death situations, so, instant drama! Lawyers are involved with serious consequences like jail time or death sentences and conflict between opposing parties like in divorces, custody battles and lawsuits. More instant drama where the plots are easily conceived.

81 Timothy Watson  Feb 5, 2015 6:03:28am

Dear God, is this ugly…
talkingpointsmemo.com

82 b.d.  Feb 5, 2015 6:04:52am

*sad trombone*

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s strategy of blocking a vote on President Barack Obama’s attorney general nominee until the White House relents on immigration executive actions ran into a brick wall Wednesday: his own GOP colleagues.

Read more: politico.com

83 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 6:04:59am

re:
#59

Alex Jones is also a misogynist:

My shocked face. Let me show you it.

84 Timothy Watson  Feb 5, 2015 6:06:51am

re: #79 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#36

Between NCIS, NCISLA, and NCISNawlins, I’m highly suspicious that there can be this much violent crime in the Naval and Marine services. ///

I remember seeing somewhere that the most cases NCIS handled involved theft of office supplies.

85 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 6:07:00am

re:
#78

Can’t be long now till we have a whole cottage industry on the right dedicated to the proposition that the Obama-Holder-Valerie Jarrett cabal had Kyle assassinated.

86 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 6:08:27am

re:
#84

I remember seeing somewhere that the most cases NCIS handled involved theft of office supplies.

They should totally do an episode on that.

87 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 6:09:29am

re: #86 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#84

They should totally do an episode on that.

HETTY HAS ALL TEH OFFICE SUPPLIES!!!!!!!

88 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 6:10:33am

re:
#81

Looks like he’s got some great historical pictures, but that red…….

89 Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2015 6:13:01am

cre: #78 The Vicious Babushka

Walid Shoebat, a former radicalized Muslim terrorist and member of the PLO who has since converted to Christianity, believes that because of his past and credentials, he is confident in his deduction that Eddie Routh was in fact becoming a radical Muslim, although there is no proof yet of the conversion.

[…]

The second proof Shoebat brings is Routh’s beard with a trimmed mustache. Shoebat profiles Routh and writes, “In the story on Eddie Routh, who murdered Chris Kyle, there are signs of concern, especially the facial hair, it does match the profile of a convert.”

Conservative “logic” in a nutshell.

90 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 6:13:08am

re:
#87

WHO TOOK MY SWINGLINE STAPLER??????

91 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 6:14:30am

re: #78 The Vicious Babushka

New Evidence Revealed Chris Kyle’s Killer Was a Muslim Sympathizer

as in someone who does not think that All Mooslims Must be Exterminated?

92 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 6:15:45am

re:
#89

“No proof of conversion….signs of concern…”

NEW EVIDENCE SHOWS!!!!!!111

93 Timothy Watson  Feb 5, 2015 6:16:43am

re: #89 Dr. Matt

c

Conservative “logic” in a nutshell.

Chris Kyle had a beard and mustache, maybe he was really a secret Muslim who infiltrated the United States military? Maybe Routh was a CIA agent who discovered this and the only option was to kill him (*hums Homeland theme*).

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94 Justanotherhuman  Feb 5, 2015 6:17:37am

Twutter. {sigh}

BTW, did anyone notice “Mika” (no JS) was on for an hour this am?

Is Scarborough on his way out?

95 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 6:17:48am

re:
#91

as in someone who does not think that All Mooslims Must be Exterminated?

“NEW EVIDENCE: Routh had a FB friend who looks kinda Muslim. BREAKING!!!1”

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96 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 6:18:44am

re: #95 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#91

“NEW EVIDENCE: Routh had a FB friend who looks kinda Muslim. BREAKING!!!1”

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All we need now is unretouched photos of him eating a falafel…

97 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2015 6:18:48am
98 Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2015 6:19:50am

Eddie Routh from Sept 2013:

99 Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2015 6:21:52am

re: #64 Teukka

I don’t want to think of the state of the mechanisms which prevent independent launch in Russian nukes :(

They have our PAL system. We gave it to them as a matter of self-interest. Also true of Pakistan.

100 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 6:22:36am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

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There is Tomcat Jefferson:

101 darthstar  Feb 5, 2015 6:24:30am

re: #82 b.d.

*sad trombone*

Eric Holder will be in his job for a while longer.

102 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 5, 2015 6:25:09am

re: #99 Decatur Deb

They have our PAL system. We gave it to them as a matter of self-interest. Also true of Pakistan.

Well, and then there was (is?) Perimetr….

103 darthstar  Feb 5, 2015 6:26:01am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pretty cat - so sad about the syphilis.

104 Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2015 6:28:16am

re: #102 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, and then there was (is?) Perimetr….

“Yes, but the whole point of the doomsday machine is lost if you keep it a secret! Why didn’t you tell the world?”
“It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday. As you know, the Premier loves surprises.”

105 darthstar  Feb 5, 2015 6:30:16am
106 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 6:31:30am

re: #105 darthstar

“I believe the starting point of faith is some doubt.”

These people have no Faith: they have dead-set, imperturbable moral certainty

107 darthstar  Feb 5, 2015 6:31:43am
108 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 6:31:47am

re: #105 darthstar

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Watch #tcot lose their shit over this.

They lose their shit every day over some fake outrage, but they manage to gather it all up so they can lose it again.

109 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 6:32:00am

re: #98 Dr. Matt

Special forces beards is a thing

More than a few photos of US SOG/Special Forces in Afghanistan show those soldiers with facial hair. So all of them are now sekret Muslims too? What a load of hooey.

When they can’t conceive of facts and logic, the right will baffle with bullshit. How typical.

110 darthstar  Feb 5, 2015 6:32:46am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

These people have no Faith: they have dead-set, imperturbable moral certainty

They wield faith like a weapon. It’s used to control people.

111 darthstar  Feb 5, 2015 6:34:28am
112 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 6:39:33am

LOOK AT THIS PILE OF STUPID==>

113 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 5, 2015 6:39:59am

The latest nwes from gotnwes.com

BREAKING: Brian Williams is probably lying about being Brian Williams

UpChuck apparently spent the day watching BW newscasts. Award Winning Journalism!

Also, he found nwes from 2013 about Scott Walker.

W.R. Hearst is laughing from the beyond, I’m sure.

114 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Feb 5, 2015 6:41:19am

Eh, Twitter is going to make itself even worse. This kind of policy cuts both ways. Every one of Dana Loesch’s (for just one example) sycophantic followers will claim harassment on her behalf every time she’s made to look stupid, which is virtually every time she engages someone.

Trying to safeguards everyone’s feelings from mean people on the Internet is both futile and counterproductive.

115 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 6:41:48am

re: #107 darthstar

“If you approve of someone’s right to insult someone’s religion, we equally have the right to stand up and condemn that speech”

let’s back that one up a bit: if your religion offends my basic sensibilities by claiming, for example, that women are inferior, that gays are mentally ill or that some lives are less valuable than others, then I have the right to condemn that religion, or your interpretation of it.

116 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 5, 2015 6:43:30am

re: #114 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Eh, Twitter is going to make itself even worse. This kind of policy cuts both ways. Every one of Dana Loesch’s (for just one example) sycophantic followers will claim harassment on her behalf every time she’s made to look stupid, which is virtually every time she engages someone opens her mouth.

Trying to safeguards everyone’s feelings from mean people on the Internet is both futile and counterproductive.

Corrected for accuracy.

117 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 6:44:12am

re: #114 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Eh, Twitter is going to make itself even worse. This kind of policy cuts both ways. Every one of Dana Loesch’s (for just one example) sycophantic followers will claim harassment on her behalf every time she’s made to look stupid, which is virtually every time she engages someone.

Trying to safeguards everyone’s feelings from mean people on the Internet is both futile and counterproductive.

Make fun of Hillary or Elizabeth Warren or any feminist: HURR HURR FIRST AMENDMENT FREEDOM!!!!1!!!!

Make fun of Sarah Palin or Dana Loesch or Joni Ernst: HURR HURR LIBRULS IS TEH REAL WAR ON WOMENS!!!1!!!!

118 Timothy Watson  Feb 5, 2015 6:44:38am
Notably, the same year that ALEC released this model resolution urging states not to set up their own health exchange and explaining that there is “no penalty” if the federal government sets up such an exchange, they also released a much longer report offering Affordable Care Act-related recommendations to state lawmakers. Among other things, this report highlighted Texas, which at the time was considering “transitioning Medicaid beneficiaries into the exchanges” — essentially, cutting off Medicaid benefits for some individuals and leaving them to find insurance on the exchange in Texas. As Texas is one of many states that opted for a federally-run exchange, however, Texas’s plan to shift Medicaid patients onto the exchanges would have been unworkable unless tax credits were actually available in Texas’s federally-run exchange. Without these tax credits, few former Medicaid beneficiaries would be able to afford insurance.

thinkprogress.org

119 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 6:44:57am

re: #116 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Corrected for accuracy.

You don’t have to open your mouth to engage someone on Twitter.

120 Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2015 6:45:18am

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

LOOK AT THIS PILE OF STUPID==>

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And failure to freak at the Ebola nopedemic was a profound failure on the President’s part.

121 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 5, 2015 6:45:31am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

You don’t have to open your mouth to engage someone on Twitter.

You do if you have to sound out the words.

122 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 6:46:35am

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

Ah, the personal right and freedom to catch and carry a communicable disease that threatens not only the person, but anyone they come into contact with, and leaves infectious particles on surfaces in whatever locations the person was in that can last for several hours.

Clearly, this person hasn’t understood the freedom to be free from getting a completely preventable communicable disease. It’s called vaccination. And it isn’t depriving anyone of their freedoms.

If MS and WV can have no exemptions for vaccinations other than medical necessity, then everyone can follow that lead.

123 Mattand  Feb 5, 2015 6:47:15am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

let’s back that one up a bit: if your religion offends my basic sensibilities by claiming, for example, that women are inferior, that gays are mentally ill or that some lives are less valuable than others, then I have the right to condemn that religion, or your interpretation of it.

I had to read the initial quote twice, I don’t know what the context is. I was initially coming at it from the viewpoint of “Hey, non-believers, don’t be mean to the faithful, because religion is essential to man’s well-being etc.”

I’m now wondering if Obama was referencing the Bill Mahers, Sam Harrises, and Fox Newses of the world vis-a-vis “Muslims gonna kill your family dead” bigotry.

124 Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 6:48:29am

re: #14 Varek Raith

I’d take a stab at it but my decoder ring is on the fritz ~Desu.

125 Justanotherhuman  Feb 5, 2015 6:50:18am

re: #122 lawhawk

And if Mexico’s 99% vaccination rate is higher than the US, then the RW’s “it’s because of the illegals” argument goes out the window.

theweek.com

126 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 6:53:08am

re: #125 Justanotherhuman

Well, of course it does, except that the right wing has bought into the AAPS line that the illegals are the source of all that ails America (literally and figuratively). Even though the disease was likely caught from someone who was unvaccinated and went overseas and came back to the US spreading the disease to others who were not vaccinated or whose immunity waned.

But for the failure to have a fully vaccinated public among those who can be vaccinated, this outbreak would not have occurred.

127 BadExampleMan  Feb 5, 2015 6:57:09am

re: #35 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I like Bones because of the characters and the romantic involvements. I know the science isn’t that great (although supposedly based on a real forensic anthropologist). It’s sorta popcorn or cotton candy of TV for me, since I don’t watch reality TV.

Edit: Will have to check out Southland. Also, anyone remember Hill Street Blues. That was a pretty good cop show. I swear sometimes TV thinks the only people in the world are medical personnel, lawyers, and cops.

What’s funny is if you’ll recall, one of the things HSB was celebrated for was its frenetic editing and jerky, handheld camera work, quite a shocking change from the standard locked-down directing of previous cop shows.

But if you go back and watch some of the shows now, they seem very stagey and almost plodding in their pacing. Time, and MTV, marches on.

128 Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2015 7:03:24am

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

LOOK AT THIS PILE OF STUPID==>

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Wonder what her thoughts were on Ebola at the time?

129 Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 7:05:32am

re: #128 Eventual Carrion

You’re optimistic, I doubt they have any thoughts at all.

130 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 7:05:38am

re: #128 Eventual Carrion

Wonder what her thoughts were on Ebola at the time?

QUARRANTINE EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN TO AFRICA probably.

131 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 7:07:14am

It really is unbelievable the about face they’ve had when it came to Ebola and Measles. Saddens me to say but if we ever do develop a vaccine to the AIDS virus, there’s going to be people who won’t use it because they think it’s “big government” perhaps out to poison them.

132 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 7:07:54am

I really thought eradicating disease was something that could transcend ideological lines. I guess if your name is Chris Christie or Rand Paul, the answer to that is “No, yay measles.”

133 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2015 7:09:14am
134 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 7:09:16am

You have a choice as a parent to what kind of school you enroll your child in. What kind of sports they play or what kind of television shows they watch but you should not be playing “My beliefs” when it comes to something like contagious diseases which effect everyone.

135 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 7:13:00am

One of the memes floating around among the fever swamps on the right is that Obama hasn’t done anything against ISIL/ISIS after the Paris attacks, while the Jordanian king is in uniform and is personally directing hellfire at ISIL.

So while that is actually Jordanian King in fatigues, President Obama hasn’t done nothing but release Gitmo terrorists back into the wild (which was done to get back Bowe Bergdahl and address his actions pursuant to the UCMJ). In fact, the US just took out an al Qaeda thug who celebrated the attack on video. And the US continues attacking ISIL and al Qaeda targets across the Middle East, Levant, North Africa, and South Asia.

136 Timothy Watson  Feb 5, 2015 7:13:18am

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE UBERMENSCH WHO HAVE 158 IQS WILL BE IMMUNE!!1!

137 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 7:13:21am

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s a disease that had killed millions for generations and through the brilliance of modern medicine, we were able to pretty much eradicate it. That’s the thing that galls me most about this. We had this disease pretty much in the dustpan of history but I guess the flip side of that is why we’re able to have anti-vaccine kooks who think that measles isn’t so bad that they won’t vaccinate themselves or their kids.

138 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 7:15:27am

re: #135 lawhawk

One of the memes floating around among the fever swamps on the right is that Obama hasn’t done anything against ISIL/ISIS after the Paris attacks, while the Jordanian king is in uniform and is personally directing hellfire at ISIL.

So while that is actually Jordanian King in fatigues, President Obama hasn’t done nothing but release Gitmo terrorists back into the wild (which was done to get back Bowe Bergdahl and address his actions pursuant to the UCMJ). In fact, the US just took out an al Qaeda thug who celebrated the attack on video. And the US continues attacking ISIL and al Qaeda targets across the Middle East, Levant, North Africa, and South Asia.

He’s doing behind the scenes stuff like every president does. I think the only president that ever went out in uniform was actually George Washington and that was during an internal rebellion no less. These people really want to delude themselves to the false notion that has been pushed since Obama was first nominated for president that he doesn’t want to address terrorism. I say that’s not only a lie, it ignores that he’s actually done more and been more effective against terrorism than Bush was but the right wingers they just like their tough guys.

139 Timothy Watson  Feb 5, 2015 7:16:28am

re: #135 lawhawk

One of the memes floating around among the fever swamps on the right is that Obama hasn’t done anything against ISIL/ISIS after the Paris attacks, while the Jordanian king is in uniform and is personally directing hellfire at ISIL.

So while that is actually Jordanian King in fatigues, President Obama hasn’t done nothing but release Gitmo terrorists back into the wild (which was done to get back Bowe Bergdahl and address his actions pursuant to the UCMJ). In fact, the US just took out an al Qaeda thug who celebrated the attack on video. And the US continues attacking ISIL and al Qaeda targets across the Middle East, Levant, North Africa, and South Asia.

His Majesty is getting a little heavy in the stomach there.

140 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 7:16:31am

re: #135 lawhawk

One of the memes floating around among the fever swamps on the right is that Obama hasn’t done anything against ISIL/ISIS after the Paris attacks, while the Jordanian king is in uniform and is personally directing hellfire at ISIL.

So while that is actually Jordanian King in fatigues, President Obama hasn’t done nothing but release Gitmo terrorists back into the wild (which was done to get back Bowe Bergdahl and address his actions pursuant to the UCMJ). In fact, the US just took out an al Qaeda thug who celebrated the attack on video. And the US continues attacking ISIL and al Qaeda targets across the Middle East, Levant, North Africa, and South Asia.

Wingnuts love photo ops. They love the photo of GWB in his “Mission Accomplished” flight suit, Ronnie in a cowboy hat choppin’ wood, Allen West on a Harley proves they are REAL MANLY MEN!!!!!! and then contrast this with Obama wearing “mom jeans” riding a bike or throwing out the first pitch which for some reason looks GIRLY GAY!!!! to them.

141 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 7:16:39am

re: #138 HappyWarrior

These people really want to delude themselves to the false notion that has been pushed since Obama was first nominated for president that he doesn’t want to address terrorism.

Osama

Bin

fucking

Laden

already…

142 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 7:18:00am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Osama

Bin

fucking

Laden

already…

Osama Bin Laden who was the world’s most wanted man for practically Bush’s entire presidency. Got by Obama before the first term ended. Hmmm. I think it’s because Obama and his advisers unlike Bush and his actually know how to prioritize shit.

143 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 7:18:15am

What is this I just can’t even

144 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 7:19:35am

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

What is this I just can’t even

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I can’t tell you and the other lizards how much I detest autistic kids being used as a means to attack vaccines. Vaccines that have lived millions of lives. Living with autism isn’t always easy but using autism to go vaccines hugga bugga is just disgusting by these creeps.

145 jaunte  Feb 5, 2015 7:23:17am

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

So this morning on the way in to work I hear on the radio that last year in Texas, the parents of 38,000 children were able to excuse their kids from immunizations.

146 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 7:26:54am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

Osama Bin Laden who was the world’s most wanted man for practically Bush’s entire presidency. Got by Obama before the first term ended. Hmmm. I think it’s because Obama and his advisers unlike Bush and his actually know how to prioritize shit.

HURR HURR WATERBOARDING & SEAL TEAM SIX KILLED OSAMA!!!!! TEHMUSLIN COMMUNIST KENYEN USURPER HAD NOTHIN TO DO WITH IT!!!!!!!

Yes they say this.

148 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 5, 2015 7:28:28am

Dear LinkedIN,

F**k off.

Just got another reason to actually spend time and delete my account with them.*

This turned up in my email this morning with the following headline:

Highlight of the day

The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment

Jim Clifton, CEO at Gallup

The article is the standard U3 vs U6 employment rate comparison stuff. And it talks about a “good job” being one with 30+ hours/week and a regular paycheck. And then goes from there to castigate the White House about talking about 5.6% unemployment when there are lots of people not looking for work, underemployed, etc. etc.

Gee, maybe look or mention how Walmart and a lot of other companies use part-time workers, low wages, etc. to depress things. Nope. OBAMA’S FAULT.

And if LinkedIN is going to lead with this crap I don’t want it in my inbox.

end rant.

* - I have not logged onto LinkedIn’s site since before they did their IPO. I did some initial set-up there 4+ years ago. Then I did a password reset and they screwed it up. A second password reset still did not fix the issue. An email to their site support did not earn a reply. So I decided that if a site couldn’t handle their access security in a timely manner then I wanted nothing more to do with it. That they did an IPO and essentially sold all their collected information for profit did nothing much to make me want to renew ties either.

149 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 7:28:35am

re:
#105

“I believe the starting point of faith is some doubt.” Pres. #Obama. Not a thought often heard at the National Prayer Breakfast.

Obama: ABT. Always. Be. Trolling.

BTW, how many of these National Prayer Breakfasts are there a year? Seems like 3 or 4 at least. Is this one of the Fundy Christians ones or is this one of the more mainstream ones?

150 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 7:30:15am

re: #148 Feline Fearless Leader

Dear LinkedIN,

F**k off.

I deleted my LinkedIn account because of all the spam they were sending.

Now I’m getting “invitations to join”

AAAARRRRRGGGHHHHH

151 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 7:30:16am

re:
#112

This Measles “scare” is just another excuse for Big Govt to steal more of our personal rights & liberty if you ask me.

Fortunately no one is asking this Troubled Heart.

But I bet she was among the freakers out during EBOLA CRISIS!!!!

152 Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2015 7:31:44am

re: #135 lawhawk

One of the memes floating around among the fever swamps on the right is that Obama hasn’t done anything against ISIL/ISIS after the Paris attacks, while the Jordanian king is in uniform and is personally directing hellfire at ISIL.

So while that is actually Jordanian King in fatigues, President Obama hasn’t done nothing but release Gitmo terrorists back into the wild (which was done to get back Bowe Bergdahl and address his actions pursuant to the UCMJ). In fact, the US just took out an al Qaeda thug who celebrated the attack on video. And the US continues attacking ISIL and al Qaeda targets across the Middle East, Levant, North Africa, and South Asia.

EVERYONE knows this is what a real president looks like……

EVERYONE knows this is what real president looks like…… #codpiece #dubyah
153 iossarian  Feb 5, 2015 7:31:53am

re: #149 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#105

Obama: ABT. Always. Be. Trolling.

I would love to be a fly on the wall for an Obama/Pope Francis get-together.

“And then there was the time I quoted Jesus at them on poverty. You should have seen the look on those motherfuckers’ faces!”

154 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 7:31:57am

re: #146 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR WATERBOARDING & SEAL TEAM SIX KILLED OSAMA!!!!! TEHMUSLIN COMMUNIST KENYEN USURPER HAD NOTHIN TO DO WITH IT!!!!!!!

Yes they say this.

Yeah well I got a bunch of bridges in Lisbon to sell them in that case. If we had gotten OBL on Bush’s watch, they’d be crowing about it even though Bush’s own actions following 9/11 allowed Bin Laden to get away by taking his eye off the ball.

155 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 7:33:45am
156 makeitstop  Feb 5, 2015 7:34:29am

Sovereign Douchecanoe attempts to pay taxes with tightly-folded dollar bills, wrestled to ground and arrested for being a Sovereign Douchecanoe.

Smyth accused Norris of disrupting the operation and efficiency of the tax office by attempting to pay $600-worth of property taxes with $1 bills. The bills were said to be folded so tightly it “required tax office personnel approximately six minutes to unfold each bill.”

157 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 7:34:31am

re:
#128

Wonder what her thoughts were on Ebola at the time?

Were all going to DIE!!! Why wont Obama ban ALL THE FLIGHTS??!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

158 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 5, 2015 7:35:42am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Yeah well I got a bunch of bridges in Lisbon to sell them in that case. If we had gotten OBL on Bush’s watch, they’d be crowing about it even though Bush’s own actions following 9/11 allowed Bin Laden to get away by taking his eye off the ball.

Hell, I remember watching the maps of the action in Afghanistan as they carefully chivvied OBL and Mullah Omar into safety in Pakistan.

159 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 7:37:08am

re:
#156

How does this numbnuts manage to have property on which to pay property taxes?

160 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 7:37:58am

re: #156 makeitstop

Sovereign Douchecanoe attempts to pay taxes with tightly-folded dollar bills, wrestled to ground and arrested for being a Sovereign Douchecanoe.

So if it took 6 minutes to unfold each dollar bill, it took at least that amount of time to fold each one, which means the Sovereign Douchecanoe spent two and a half days folding fucking dollar bills (not including time spent eating, sleeping and going to the bathroom)

161 Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2015 7:38:29am

If OBL was killed on dubyah’s watch, the RWNJ crowd would be demanding that he gets added to Mount Rushmore.

162 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 7:39:00am

re: #159 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#156

How does this numbnuts manage to have property on which to pay property taxes?

They inherited Grandma’s house by living in the basement until she passed away.

163 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 7:41:45am

This made me chuckle. As with most things that George Takei posts:

165 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 7:42:55am

re:
#162

Yeah can’t be property he’s got a mortgage on.

166 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 7:44:44am

re: #165 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#162

Yeah can’t be property he’s got a mortgage on.

HURR HURR BE RESPONSIBLE DON’T BUY ANYTHING UNLESS YOU CAN PUT CASH ON TEH BARREL HEAD!!!!!!

167 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 7:51:42am

So I read this a.m. that the Repubs have actually drawn up something that almost looks like a healthcare reform bill, to replace Obamacare should Congress or the SCOTUS gut it.

Only five years too late. But it would end the individual and employer mandates. It would end most regulations of private insurance although it would create an open enrollment period for the uninsured who could only then qualify for insurance regardless of pre-existing conditions. But their bill would not include the ACA’s ban against insurance companies restricting policies to only those without pre-existing conditions. The GOP bill would end Medicaid expansion.

So who or what does the GOP bill actually cover?

Who knows.

Their bill would also begin the process of subjecting a person’s healthcare insurance benefits to income taxation. The NEW TAXES would kick in at certain thresholds. If a Democrat had recommended this it would be labeled as THE BIGGEST MOST TYRANNY TAX INCREASES EVER FOR ALL TIME!!!!!!11

168 b_sharp  Feb 5, 2015 7:55:36am
169 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 7:56:49am

re: #167 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The NEW TAXES would kick in at certain thresholds. If a Democrat had recommended this it would be labeled as THE BIGGEST MOST TYRANNY TAX INCREASES EVER FOR ALL TIME!!!!!!11

The GOP-recommended taxes would kick in at 99K/yr AND LESS….

170 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 7:57:34am

re: #167 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

In other words, it’s vaporware/malware, and would do nothing to address the fundamental problems with access to health insurance in the US that predates the ACA changes.

171 thedopefishlives  Feb 5, 2015 7:58:28am

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

The GOP-recommended taxes would kick in at 99K/yr AND LESS….

Well, duh. Because as faithful Republicans, they can’t tax rich people. That would be irresponsible.

172 iossarian  Feb 5, 2015 8:00:33am

re: #167 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Their bill would also begin the process of subjecting a person’s healthcare insurance benefits to income taxation. The NEW TAXES would kick in at certain thresholds. If a Democrat had recommended this it would be labeled as THE BIGGEST MOST TYRANNY TAX INCREASES EVER FOR ALL TIME!!!!!!11

The bill has a tax increase in it?

Pass the popcorn. Dead on arrival.

173 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 8:00:35am

SSMOTI’s FAKE OUTRAGE OF THE DAY==>

174 b_sharp  Feb 5, 2015 8:00:59am

re: #60 Dr. Matt

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Interesting story that I never knew about until today: 1958 Tybee Island mid-air collision

I’m sure I saw that in the basement of an old building in Moose Jaw.

175 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 8:03:46am

re:
#173

OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!!!1

176 iossarian  Feb 5, 2015 8:07:30am

So this is the “New Republican Health Plan”, which is essentially identical to the Old Republican Health Plan. I thought this little gem (from Fox News: donotlink.com) summed up the GOP approach rather nicely:

“One of the reasons that you don’t see massive changes is we thought we had a decent product last year based on feedback as we’ve talked with governors, with industry,” an aide familiar with the plan said. “A lot of industry frankly thinks this is a very durable sustainable, credible alternative from a market perspective, and they think it’s operationally viable.”

The industry likes it! Why mess around trying to find out whether it’ll make things better or worse for actual people!

177 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2015 8:09:05am

Switching back to the Cop shows things for a moment.

I like CSI for what it is, but I’m smart enough to know it’s mostly glammed up entertainment with only a minor resemblance to the real thing.

One my personal favourite gripes about these shows is how they always manage to get a DNA test result or fingerprint result in like, 15 minutes. In the real world these processes take can take DAYS.

Also, the idea of the Crime Sceene Investigators actually QUESTIONING SUSPECTS is pretty far out there too. A real life CSI would probably NEVER do that, that’s a job for you know, detectives.

178 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 8:10:16am

re: #60 Dr. Matt

Yup. We almost nuked Georgia. And a bunch of other states too.

And one of the best sandwich shops we ever visited is across the street from the Tybee Island Light Station and Museum. The North Beach Bar and Grill.

179 thedopefishlives  Feb 5, 2015 8:11:22am

re: #176 iossarian

The industry likes it! Why mess around trying to find out whether it’ll make things better or worse for actual people!

This comes up a lot when discussing Republican ideas. Union-busting? Yeah, the industry loves it! Corporate personhood? Absolutely! Death to Net Neutrality? SOPA/PIPA? Reduced minimum wage?

Ugh. It disgusts me how these scum can be so beholden to corporate interests and deliberately choose not to see how these policies will affect real people.

180 WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2015 8:11:39am

re: #22 Dr Lizardo

I despise CSI and its variants. I recently had one of my students - she was a big fan of CSI and its offspring - to sit down and watch David Fincher’s 2007 film Zodiac for a more realistic view of how police investigation actually works, and how tedious and frustrating it can be, especially in high-profile cases like the Zodiac Killer; how many investigative dead-ends there can be, focusing on the wrong suspect, an investigator’s instinct leading them astray or going down blind alleys.

And how sometimes, even with the best of efforts, the real-life villains remain at large.

She’s come to the conclusion that CSI is typical “Hollywood happy-ending” claptrap.

The problem is the ramification on our judicial system and society as a whole. People expect that this is true and people sitting on juries expect this type of tied-neatly-with-a-bow, technological evidence is the only thing that matters - while most are unable to understand the science behind the actual evidence. It’s all cool and glamorous until which time you are expected to understand what expert testimony is all about…because you are basing your decision on it…yet you are unable to do so. Which leads to eyewitness evidence (which is notoriously wrong) ruling over any other evidence. It is easier to understand people than science, no matter if those people are wrong.

I think that this often results in not evidence carrying the day in trials but inner prejudices for who is believed or not, and who is convicted or not.

181 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 8:11:53am

re: #177 Eclectic Cyborg

Switching back to the Cop shows things for a moment.

I like CSI for what it is, but I’m smart enough to know it’s mostly glammed up entertainment with only a minor resemblance to the real thing.

One my personal favourite gripes about these shows is how they always manage to get a DNA test result or fingerprint result in like, 15 minutes. In the real world these processes take can take DAYS.

Also, the idea of the Crime Sceene Investigators actually QUESTIONING SUSPECTS is pretty far out there too. A real life CSI would probably NEVER do that, that’s a job for you know, detectives.

But these shows have to wrap everything up in 42 minutes (not including commercial breaks) unlike real life where an investigation can take months or even years.

182 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 8:12:14am

re: #177 Eclectic Cyborg

NCIS (all versions) have a single tech doing everything from GSR tests to computer forensics, which wouldn’t happen IRL.

183 iossarian  Feb 5, 2015 8:12:53am

re: #179 thedopefishlives

Ugh. It disgusts me how these scum can be so beholden to corporate interests and deliberately choose not to see how these policies will affect real people.

Agreed. Still, it’s always useful to hear someone forget to use doublespeak and actually lay their priorities out in full view.

“Frankly, the industry likes it.” That’s their bottom line - always will be.

184 Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2015 8:13:08am

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

What is this I just can’t even

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Wonder if they ever think that the fault might be in the companies that are polluting the waterways and ground wells with toxins (mercury and everything else) that should be regulated, but aren’t, because FREEDOM (for the companies that are people). There is a limit on how many fish (of certain kinds depending on their feeding habits) a week you can eat from many waterways and lakes. This all because of the toxins from shipping, runoff from plants, etc.. Maybe their ire should be pointed at them a real possible cause for this shit.

Nah, companies only do what is right for the people at large and not what is cheaper for their stock holders. //

185 WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2015 8:13:56am

re: #34 Timothy Watson

Ah, you beat me to it. Exactly what you said.

186 iossarian  Feb 5, 2015 8:15:12am

re: #184 Eventual Carrion

Wonder if they ever think that the fault might be in the companies that are polluting the waterways and ground wells with toxins (mercury and everything else) that should be regulated, but aren’t, because FREEDOM (for the companies that are people).

Coal-fired power plants put a shitload of mercury into the atmosphere but any attempt to get that under control is teh ebil EPA.

187 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 8:15:44am

re: #184 Eventual Carrion

Wonder if they ever think that the fault might be in the companies that are polluting the waterways and ground wells with toxins (mercury and everything else) that should be regulated, but aren’t, because FREEDOM (for the companies that are people). There is a limit on how many fish (of certain kinds depending on their feeding habits) a week you can eat from many waterways and lakes. This all because of the toxins from shipping, runoff from plants, etc.. Maybe their ire should be pointed at them a real possible cause for this shit.

Nah, companies only do what is right for the people at large and not what is cheaper for their stock holders. //

HURR HURR GIVE A MAN A FISH & HE’LL EAT FOR A DAY!!

TEACH A MAN TO FISH & HE’LL EAT FOR A LIFE TIME!!!!!

GIVE HIM SOMEONE ELSE’S FISH & HE’LL VOTE DEMOCRAT FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE!!!!!

VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN & THEY’LL REMOVE ALL TEH REGULATIONS SO TEH FISH WILL ALL DIE & THOSE LAZY MOOCHERS WHO SPEND ALL THERE TIME FISHIN WILL GET REAL JRBS!!!!11!

188 Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2015 8:20:17am

re: #176 iossarian

So this is the “New Republican Health Plan”, which is essentially identical to the Old Republican Health Plan. I thought this little gem (from Fox News: donotlink.com) summed up the GOP approach rather nicely:

The industry likes it! Why mess around trying to find out whether it’ll make things better or worse for actual people!

Because they are the only “people” that matter.

189 WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2015 8:20:37am

re: #72 The Vicious Babushka

IOW fewer cases of ebola in Africa than measles in the U.S.

Well, THAT needs to be said again.

And again.

190 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 8:22:35am

It’s cold no matter where I go. The sun is out, though.

you?

191 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 8:23:20am

Got to listen to lots of Fox News while here. I’m really tired of the war-mongers.

192 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 5, 2015 8:24:02am

re: #60 Dr. Matt

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Interesting story that I never knew about until today: 1958 Tybee Island mid-air collision

Is there a reward?

193 Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2015 8:24:29am

re: #190 FemNaziBitch

It’s cold no matter where I go. The sun is out, though.

you?

Same here. Sun is out and looking nice, but 10F (no real wind to speak of, so there is that).

194 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 8:24:37am

re: #176 iossarian

So this is the “New Republican Health Plan”, which is essentially identical to the Old Republican Health Plan. I thought this little gem (from Fox News: donotlink.com) summed up the GOP approach rather nicely:

The industry likes it! Why mess around trying to find out whether it’ll make things better or worse for actual people!

We cannot force individuals to have health insurance they do not want

Nice idea, but not well thought out, IMHO.

195 iossarian  Feb 5, 2015 8:25:46am

re: #190 FemNaziBitch

It’s cold no matter where I go. The sun is out, though.

you?

Sun out, freezing cold. I like it though - the bit I don’t like is the March/April “everything gray/brown and dead” grind.

196 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 8:27:23am

re: #192 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

The Navy stopped searching for it, but a team of researchers say that they may have found it after doing sonar studies in the waters offshore in Wassaw Sound.

197 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 8:28:55am

HURR HURR

198 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 8:30:01am

Global status report on violence and health

WHO Executive Board November 2014

3. In 2013, WHO, the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and the South African Medical Research Council published the first global and regional estimates of the health burden and the prevalence of intimate partner violence (based on data from 79 countries and two territories) and non-partner sexual violence against women (56 countries and two territories).1 These estimates show that globally one in three women experience either physical and/or sexual intimate partner violence or
non-partner sexual violence. The perpetrators of most of this violence are intimate partners. The estimates indicate that this violence places a tremendous burden on women’s mental and physical health, including sexual and reproductive health.

199 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 8:30:43am

re: #195 iossarian

Sun out, freezing cold. I like it though - the bit I don’t like is the March/April “everything gray/brown and dead” grind.

I know, the recent snow storm has made everything look clean and bright. Very beautiful —except next to the roads. That snow is getting dirty again.

200 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 8:32:48am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR

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It’s so disheartening to see so many so-called Christians calling for revenge and an “eye-for-an-eye” against the so-called Muslims.

I literally heard “eye-for-an-eye” on Fox Satellite Radio in the car yesterday.

I learned in RC school that that is a big, big, BIG, difference between Christianity and other religions —Jesus taught “turn the other cheek”.

201 Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2015 8:39:42am

re: #200 FemNaziBitch

It’s so disheartening to see so many so-called Christians calling for revenge and an “eye-for-an-eye” against the so-called Muslims.

I literally heard “eye-for-an-eye” on Fox Satellite Radio in the car yesterday.

I learned in RC school that that is a big, big, BIG, difference between Christianity and other religions —Jesus taught “turn the other cheek”.

In Christianity you seem to get to pick and choose if you want to follow the old covenant or the new covenant, depending on the situation.

202 thedopefishlives  Feb 5, 2015 8:40:03am

re: #200 FemNaziBitch

It’s so disheartening to see so many so-called Christians calling for revenge and an “eye-for-an-eye” against the so-called Muslims.

I literally heard “eye-for-an-eye” on Fox Satellite Radio in the car yesterday.

I learned in RC school that that is a big, big, BIG, difference between Christianity and other religions —Jesus taught “turn the other cheek”.

Anyone who says “an eye for an eye” and means it really isn’t paying attention to anything Jesus actually said.

203 iossarian  Feb 5, 2015 8:40:22am

re: #200 FemNaziBitch

I learned in RC school that that is a big, big, BIG, difference between Christianity and other religions —Jesus taught “turn the other cheek”.

The “Christian” right-wingers don’t have much time for that part of the gospels.

204 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 8:40:51am
16. Although data on violence are essential to informing and monitoring prevention efforts, the report finds that in many countries data on violence are missing or inadequate. National action plans often existed when national survey data do not, suggesting that much planning and policy-making are done in the absence of data. Although many countries are investing in prevention programmes, the level of that funding is not commensurate with the scale and severity of the problem. Furthermore, although violence prevention laws are widely enacted (in 80% of participating countries), their enforcement is often inadequate. With regard to services, child protection services were reported by 69% of countries, followed by medico-legal services for victims of sexual violence. Less than half the countries reported the availability of mental health services to meet the needs of victims of violence.

This is my experience.

Lack of funding for enforcement, and oversight.

205 Teukka  Feb 5, 2015 8:41:05am

re: #202 thedopefishlives

Anyone who says “an eye for an eye” and means it really isn’t paying attention to anything Jesus actually said.

Also:

“An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.”

206 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 8:42:13am

re: #203 iossarian

The “Christian” right-wingers don’t have much time for that part of the gospels.

I always laugh with people who say they are going to Bible studies. I say “oh, they you are a Protestant, Catholics don’t study the Bible.”

Yet, I know that an “eye-for-an-eye” is something Jesus tried stop.

207 Timothy Watson  Feb 5, 2015 8:43:33am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR

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I’m sure the Byzantines thought the same thing during the Fourth Crusade.

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208 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 8:47:00am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

And those crusaders didn’t exactly treat Jews particularly well. Each time the Crusaders went forth, Jews got the pointy end of the spear.

209 TedStriker  Feb 5, 2015 8:47:20am

re: #20 Kragar

I tried watching one or two of the CSI shows on Netflix and honestly, I just can’t bring myself to watch them. The sheer ridiculousness of them is just overwhelming.

“Yes, I’m the on duty crime scene photographer. Why else would I show up in a city park at 3:00 am wearing a power dress worth more than I would reasonably make in a month and heels so I can traipse around in the mud? Don’t worry, I’ll be able to enhance this photo, then we can digitize it and we’ll be able to triangulate the location of a victim based on cut and paste/drag and dropping from a JPG into a map program.”

For the love of fuck people, how the hell did this shit make it on air?

Jerry Bruckheimer.

210 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 5, 2015 8:47:24am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

True student of history, that one. Religion was the justification for the Crusades. The reasons for the Crusades were complex and cynical in the extreme. Ironically enough, the last Crusade diverted from going to the Holy Land and instead devoted itself to sacking Byzantium which happened to be the capitol of the only Christian theocracy in the world. That one so weakened the tottering Byzantine Empire that it subsequently fell to the Turks.

211 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 8:47:29am

HURR HURR RADICAL CHRISTIANS ONLY KILLS TEH BABY KILLERS WHO DESERVES IT!!!!1!!!!

212 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 5, 2015 8:48:37am

re: #204 FemNaziBitch

This is my experience.

Lack of funding for enforcement, and oversight.

Don’t worry—the Saudis are on the case.

213 TedStriker  Feb 5, 2015 8:50:04am

re: #35 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I like Bones because of the characters and the romantic involvements. I know the science isn’t that great (although supposedly based on a real forensic anthropologist). It’s sorta popcorn or cotton candy of TV for me, since I don’t watch reality TV.

Edit: Will have to check out Southland. Also, anyone remember Hill Street Blues. That was a pretty good cop show. I swear sometimes TV thinks the only people in the world are medical personnel, lawyers, and cops.

Rizzoli & Isles is pretty good too.

214 thedopefishlives  Feb 5, 2015 8:50:37am

Time to roll this old chestnut out again:

Did I fucking stutter?!
215 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2015 8:50:52am

It seems to me the Fox News people are EXACTLY the kind of folks that Jesus tossed OUT OF the Temple that day.

216 iossarian  Feb 5, 2015 8:55:27am

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR RADICAL CHRISTIANS ONLY KILLS TEH BABY KILLERS WHO DESERVES IT!!!!1!!!!

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I think Pope Francis is something of a radical Christian, and the RWers hate that guy’s guts.

217 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 8:56:48am

Bobbi Kristina Brown is brain-dead. I guess today is her father’s birthday.

how horrible.

I don’t normally follow celebrity news, but this is especially heart-breaking.

218 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 8:57:48am

re: #216 iossarian

I think Pope Francis is something of a radical Christian, and the RWers hate that guy’s guts.

duh, he is a freaking POPE. Of course, he is a radical christian of the most conservative kind.

219 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 9:02:22am

re: #218 FemNaziBitch

Former NYS State Senator Malcolm Smith found guilty on all charges of corruption.

The New Assembly Speaker says corruption isn’t widespread as he keeps on most of Silver’s top staffers.

Magic 8 ball says without doubt more arrests coming in corruption cases in NYS legislature.

220 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:03:07am

re: #212 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Don’t worry—the Saudis are on the case.

I saw that and thought, oh, they are behind American on this.

THE NAIL

I have more …

221 ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2015 9:03:59am

re: #190 FemNaziBitch

It’s cold no matter where I go. The sun is out, though.

you?

Same here in Columbus. We are stuck at 14° or so for the whole day and into tomorrow morning. Sure hope they have the forecast right for the weekend. Looks like a couple of mid-40° days. That would be good.

222 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 9:04:10am

re:
#217

Yeah, it’s unbelievable sad given her mother’s own premature death for what appear to be similar reasons.

223 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 9:08:03am

re:
#197

Wait, so they were Muslim crusades?

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224 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 9:10:03am

HURR HURR!!!! INPEECH!!!! LOOK TEH TREASONIS TREASENS!!!!!!1!!

225 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 5, 2015 9:13:42am

re: #223 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#197

Wait, so they were Muslim crusades?

//

Technically “Croissantades”

226 Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2015 9:15:50am

Out of deep affection for the lizards who are bitching about the weather, I will maintain a smug silence.

(in the deep silence you can hear the radishes germinating.)

227 retired cynic  Feb 5, 2015 9:18:13am

re: #217 FemNaziBitch

Bobbi Kristina Brown is brain-dead. I guess today is her father’s birthday.

how horrible.

I don’t normally follow celebrity news, but this is especially heart-breaking.

That is so sad. I was afraid it would end that way when I saw her after her mother died.

228 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:18:15am

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR!!!! INPEECH!!!! LOOK TEH TREASONIS TREASENS!!!!!!1!!

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wouldn’t it be nice. A flag that celebrated our different flavors instead of one that symbolized blood… .

229 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 9:19:26am

re:
#224

Vet noticed something “strange†on Air Force base:

Wait, are Confederate flag wavers lecturing us about flag eitquette and patriotism again?

/

230 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 9:23:29am

Also at the Glenn Freakazoid Beck website:

GOLDLINE: FREE COINS WITH QUALIFIED IRA!!!!!1

231 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:23:37am

I thought socialism didn’t allow for profit. I’m so confused. I thought fascism allowed for private industry.

232 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:24:45am
233 ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2015 9:26:08am

I saw a comment above about coal putting mercury into the air. Has anyone told Jenny McCarthy and the anti-vaxxers? Maybe they could help lead a charge in energy policy and help the health of millions of Americans by pushing for more alternative energy sources.

That would also be an open suggestion to all the RWNJs that don’t like us to be forced by the government to be vaccinated. In some way, we are all forced to breath the air fouled by coal byproducts. And the conservatives help that by refusing any movement on energy policy. Where is the complaining?

234 TedStriker  Feb 5, 2015 9:29:53am

re: #233 ObserverArt

I saw a comment above about coal putting mercury into the air. Has anyone told Jenny McCarthy and the anti-vaxxers? Maybe they could help lead a charge in energy policy and help the health of millions of Americans by pushing for more alternative energy sources.

That would also be an open suggestion to all the RWNJs that don’t like us to be forced by the government to be vaccinated. In some way, we are all forced to breath the air fouled by coal byproducts. And the conservatives help that by refusing any movement on energy policy. Where is the complaining?

But, that’s “good” mercury, because freedumb.

235 Ace-o-aces  Feb 5, 2015 9:30:59am

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

236 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 9:33:10am

re: #233 ObserverArt

I saw a comment above about coal putting mercury into the air. Has anyone told Jenny McCarthy and the anti-vaxxers? Maybe they could help lead a charge in energy policy and help the health of millions of Americans by pushing for more alternative energy sources.

That would also be an open suggestion to all the RWNJs that don’t like us to be forced by the government to be vaccinated. In some way, we are all forced to breath the air fouled by coal byproducts. And the conservatives help that by refusing any movement on energy policy. Where is the complaining?

Those coal plants don’t need scrubbers, they just need to put a sign up that their smoke might not be scrubbed. People who find that too dirty will use another power plant down the street and the market will take care of the problem without regulation, right?

/

237 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:34:32am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They don’t need scrubbers, they just need to put a sign up that their smoke might not be scrubbed. People who find that too dirty will use other power plants and the market will take care of it without regulation, right?

/

WE cannot force people not breath what they want to breathe!

238 Jayleia  Feb 5, 2015 9:35:00am
239 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:38:19am
240 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:38:51am
241 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2015 9:39:39am

re: #239 FemNaziBitch

Catholic hierarchy is obviously too threatened by women to even let them in…

242 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:40:45am
243 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:42:23am
244 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 9:45:47am

re: #243 FemNaziBitch

Not the official portrait, but it isn’t like the official portrait is better.

Well, it is better, in a different, more awful way.

Image: jindal5n-3-web.jpg

245 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:45:51am

re: #243 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

People Magazine has it too!

246 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:48:16am

Official Portrait is kind of an archaic thing, IMHO.

I appreciate those who want to keep the art of portrait painting alive and employee talented artists, but it’s really a waste of money.

We have digital photography now.

247 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:51:38am
248 Ace-o-aces  Feb 5, 2015 9:53:29am

re: #200 FemNaziBitch

It’s so disheartening to see so many so-called Christians calling for revenge and an “eye-for-an-eye” against the so-called Muslims

I was listening to RW talk radio yesterday. The general consensus seemed to be :
1) ISIS is evil for beheading and burning prisoners.
2) Therefore, we should do the same thing.

249 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:54:01am
250 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 9:54:22am
251 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:54:27am

re: #248 Ace-o-aces

I was listening to RW talk radio yesterday. The general consensus seemed to be :
1) ISIS is evil for beheading and burning prisoners.
2) Therefore, we should do the same thing.

Whackos are just looking for justification for their blood lust.

252 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 9:55:36am
253 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 5, 2015 9:56:29am

re: #251 FemNaziBitch

Whackos are just looking for justification for their blood lust.

The eery thing is that they’ll do this while claiming that theirs is the objective morality, while liberals are relativists or nihilists.

254 thedopefishlives  Feb 5, 2015 9:57:59am

re: #253 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar

The eery thing is that they’ll do this while claiming that theirs is the objective morality, while liberals are relativists or nihilists.

Even assuming they have the objective moral high ground, by what right does that give them the authority to stoop to the terrorists’ level? Wouldn’t that be sacrificing the very moral high ground they claim to have?

255 Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2015 9:58:53am

Here’s your sneak preview of the next RWNJ outrage…..

Obama said something negative told the truth about Christianity:

Obama had a more non-denominational message for the audience that also included prominent leaders of non-Christian faiths. The president said that while religion is a source for good around the world, people of all faiths have been willing to “hijack religion for their own murderous ends.”

“Unless we get on our high horse and think that this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ,” Obama said. “In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ.
apnews.myway.com

256 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 10:03:19am
257 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 10:03:38am

LOOK AT ALL TEH STUPIDS==>

258 Ace-o-aces  Feb 5, 2015 10:04:33am

re: #254 thedopefishlives

Even assuming they have the objective moral high ground, by what right does that give them the authority to stoop to the terrorists’ level? Wouldn’t that be sacrificing the very moral high ground they claim to have?

Morals don’t enter into their thinking. It’s just tribalism for them. The other group is doing this, so we should do it back. Basically, they’re using Sean Connery’s “Chicago way”, speech from The Untouchables as the basis for their actions.

259 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 10:05:25am

re:
#225

HERES the PROOFS—Obama hates America and Christianity!!!!11

260 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 10:06:29am
261 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 10:06:52am

re:
#253

The eery thing is that they’ll do this while claiming that theirs is the objective morality, while liberals are relativists or nihilists.

Yeah pretty neat how they work that out in their little minds.

262 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 10:08:14am

Can I have a baby seal?

263 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 10:10:06am

re: #255 Dr. Matt

Here’s your sneak preview of the next RWNJ outrage…..

Obama said something negative told the truth about Christianity:

Oh, another thing the Fox News Drones kept harping on from show to show is that Obama wouldn’t name ISIS as an Islamic group —he called them a death cult and such, but wouldn’t label them one religion or another.

Gee, think he is trying to make us notice that there are WHACKOS of another religion here at home?

264 A Cranky One  Feb 5, 2015 10:10:24am

re: #262 FemNaziBitch

First you need to get a seal of approval :)

265 Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2015 10:10:59am

I give him credit, the dude has balls to be in that part of the world right now.

266 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 10:11:03am

re: #264 A Cranky One

First you need to get a seal of approval :)

From whom?

267 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 10:12:29am

Meanwhile, Jon Stewart gets caught playing games with his vaccination coverage, implying that a woman didn’t get her kids vaccinated for measles, when the uncut footage shows that the woman did.

The clip shows Skytt saying her kids are vaccinated “for the most part,” which Stewart says means, “No.” Then Stewart jumps forward to Skytt saying that she lives in Marin, where people are educated and liberal and so if they don’t get their kids vaccinated, they probably have a good reason. Bam! In comes Stewart with a joke about Californians practicing a “mindful stupidity” and steaming their vaginas and getting espresso enemas.

But if you watch the full CNN clip you’ll notice that Stewart’s producers jumped over a somewhat important part — the part where the CNN journalist says Skytt did in fact vaccinate her kids for measles.

The Skytt interview came from a CNN story about the parents of a kid who has had chemotherapy for leukemia. Those parents want their son’s school to ban kids who have not been immunized.

Here’s the thing. Vaccinations should be easy. Everyone gets all of them unless you have a medical exemption. No opting out. No deferred vaccinations unless you have a credible medical exemption/need.

No religious exemptions.
No philosophical exemptions.

Get vaccinated. Period. Why is this so damned hard to figure out. Oh wait, mystical magical beliefs that vaccines will cause harms, when we know that not getting vaccinated will cause far greater harms - not just for the individual but the community at large. Vaccinations are one of the biggest leaps in public health - eliminating costly hospitalizations and medical care and lost wages and depressed economic activity resulting from care for those who became ill from wholly preventable diseases.

Get vaccinated.

But watch Stewart’s fast-and-loose cut of the video be used by the anti-vaxxers as proof that the fix is in or that the pro-vaccination folks are lying about the benefits of vaccinations.

268 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 5, 2015 10:13:38am

re: #254 thedopefishlives

Even assuming they have the objective moral high ground, by what right does that give them the authority to stoop to the terrorists’ level? Wouldn’t that be sacrificing the very moral high ground they claim to have?

The only thing I can guess is that it’s a moral system where affiliation trumps a general standard of conduct. Not context or nuance, only social position.

There isn’t “moral high ground” in the sense of being kinder, or being merciful. Their “high ground” is defined by sanctity, and sanctity is defined by powerful people claiming to hear things from God. It’s not even about the Bible or Jesus, it’s about they guys who interpret the Bible and Jesus.

That’s broad, but it actually explains the baked-in hypocrisy of the Religious Right and the wingnuts quite well.

269 A Cranky One  Feb 5, 2015 10:13:50am

re: #266 FemNaziBitch

270 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 5, 2015 10:14:11am

re: #266 FemNaziBitch

From whom?

Seals and Crofts:

Video

271 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 10:15:25am

Greta let Rand Paul give a campaign speech interviewed Rand Paul last night about vaccinations.

He said he got vaccinations and encouraged others to do the same. What he did not say is that the government should mandate vaccinations. Which is, of course, the issue, isn’t it?

Greta did not press the issue.

Nice journalism/lawyer skills there, Greta.

*SPIT*

272 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 10:15:53am

re: #269 A Cranky One

But I am the Walrus.

273 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 10:16:02am

re: #269 A Cranky One

Embedded Image

ROTFLAMO!!!

I didn’t see that coming.

274 A Cranky One  Feb 5, 2015 10:18:43am

re: #272 lawhawk

But I am the Walrus.

[Embedded content]

Goo goo goo joob!

275 A Cranky One  Feb 5, 2015 10:22:50am

re: #272 lawhawk

But I am the Walrus.

[Embedded content]

I am the eggman.

276 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 5, 2015 10:22:54am

re: #272 lawhawk

But I am the Walrus.

[Embedded content]

I am Spartacus the Walrus Spartacus!

277 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 10:22:58am

bbl

278 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 10:24:58am
279 FemNaziBitch  Feb 5, 2015 10:25:24am

FUNNY WORD OF THE DAY.

I dare you to say it without laughing at the sound:

Glückschmerz.

bbl

280 Kragar  Feb 5, 2015 10:28:28am

re: #279 FemNaziBitch

FUNNY WORD OF THE DAY.

I dare you to say it without laughing at the sound:

Glückschmerz.

bbl

And Tom Servo immediately springs to mind:

“HONOR THE UMLAUT!”

281 Dr Lizardo  Feb 5, 2015 10:28:32am

re: #275 A Cranky One

I am the eggman.

re: #276 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar

I am Spartacus the Walrus Spartacus!

re: #279 FemNaziBitch

FUNNY WORD OF THE DAY.

I dare you to say it without laughing at the sound:

Glückschmerz.

bbl

I AM GLÜCKSCHMERZ!!!

282 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 10:29:09am

re: #279 FemNaziBitch

FUNNY WORD OF THE DAY.

I dare you to say it without laughing at the sound:

Glückschmerz.

bbl

The opposite of Schadenfreude

283 Pip's Squeak  Feb 5, 2015 10:35:08am

re: #280 Kragar

And Tom Servo immediately springs to mind:

“HONOR THE UMLAUT!”

Rettet dem Dativ!

284 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2015 10:36:39am
286 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 10:40:41am
287 A Cranky One  Feb 5, 2015 10:41:17am

CHICAGO, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Five babies at a suburban Chicago daycare center have been diagnosed with measles, according to a report in the Chicago Tribune, citing local health officials.

Grrrrr….

288 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 10:42:57am

re: #287 A Cranky One

CHICAGO, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Five babies at a suburban Chicago daycare center have been diagnosed with measles, according to a report in the Chicago Tribune, citing local health officials.

Grrrrr….

This is Obama’s fault because you know anything bad that happens in Chicago is because of Obama.

289 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 5, 2015 10:46:23am

re: #287 A Cranky One

CHICAGO, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Five babies at a suburban Chicago daycare center have been diagnosed with measles, according to a report in the Chicago Tribune, citing local health officials.

Grrrrr….

Caused no doubt by the feared LRII (Long Range Illegal Immigrant).

290 A Cranky One  Feb 5, 2015 10:49:21am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

This is Obama’s fault because you know anything bad that happens in Chicago is because of Obama.

Obama delivers three cases of measles to daycare
291 3eff Jeff  Feb 5, 2015 10:50:19am

I have not read through the thread, but I wanted to note on the original article: I am a software engineer and sysadmin in the Bay Area. I am actively looking for work at this very moment. I am so disgusted with Twitter’s dealings with trolls and moderation that I will not work for them. The only reason I have looked at their jobs page was to make this comment. There are a number of positions I could do, and one that is asking for a skill set that closely matches mine. Given what my skill set is, I’m sure they’re having a hell of a time hiring for that one.

292 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 10:52:29am
293 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 10:53:46am
294 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 10:54:25am

re: #293 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Damn it. Not another one.

295 Ace-o-aces  Feb 5, 2015 10:54:50am

re: #20 Kragar

For the love of fuck people, how the hell did this shit make it on air?

For the same reason’s TV Doctor’s routinely do things that would get them sued for malpractice and their license suspended, TV Lawyers routinely do things that would get them disbarred, and TV cops do things that would get their cases thrown out of court. TV writers are lazy.

296 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 5, 2015 10:57:23am

re:
#294

Too soon to talk about gun violence, etc.

////

297 HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2015 10:58:20am

re: #296 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#294

Too soon to talk about gun violence, etc.

////

Always is. But I’m sure we’ll be hearing soon about how if there was prayer in schools that this never would have happened because you know forced prayer prevents mass violence.

298 goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2015 11:00:33am

People who video chat in Starbucks are worse than Hitler.

299 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2015 11:03:30am

re: #295 Ace-o-aces

For the same reason’s TV Doctor’s routinely do things that would get them sued for malpractice and their license suspended, TV Lawyers routinely do things that would get them disbarred, and TV cops do things that would get their cases thrown out of court. TV writers are lazy.

They never show TV writers doing stuff that would get their scripts torn up. Oh wait they do, a TV writers strike is what started the “reality” shows, because anybody can script that shit.

300 Kragar  Feb 5, 2015 11:05:39am

re: #298 goddamnedfrank

People who video chat in Starbucks are worse than Hitler.

They’re like the people who make videos auto-play when you load a web-page aka the worst monsters in history

301 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 5, 2015 11:07:59am

re: #295 Ace-o-aces

I wouldn’t call them lazy. They have a lot of constraints on what they write, and the big ones are time and tastes. Viewers would probably tune out of a show where the loose ends can’t be tied up quickly (especially when they’ve been conditioned by watching decades worth of neat and tidy cases), and the writers have to fit the story into what is usuall a 1 hour time slot.

302 lawhawk  Feb 5, 2015 11:09:16am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

Damn it. Not another one.

Like clockwork. Every 2-3 weeks there’s a mass shooting somewhere in the US.

303 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 5, 2015 11:10:54am

Doofy strikes again:

philly.com

304 A Cranky One  Feb 5, 2015 11:11:18am

re: #298 goddamnedfrank

People who video chat in Starbucks are worse than Hitler.

So they’re Democrats? //////

Was in the grocery store the other night and a woman was talking VERY loudly about her last visit to the OB/GYN. I tried to ignore her, but she was talking so loudly that you could hear her conversation from several aisles away. I finally walked up to her and stood there listening. She stopped talking, gave me an extremely dirty look and said “This is a private conversation!”

I replied “No it isn’t, everyone in the store can hear you”.

She hung up the phone. Being cranky does occasionally have advantages ;)

305 ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2015 11:11:22am

I just climbed down from my corn flake, because I missed the damn van in my corporate t-shirt. So, I want to post this alternative version of I am the Walrus by Spooky Tooth.

In some ways, I find this version better than the Beatles…especially the choir voices. And you can never go wrong with all the Hammond b3 organ parts and Mike Harrison’s bluesy and smokey vocals.

306 CuriousLurker  Feb 5, 2015 11:12:56am

re: #135 lawhawk

One of the memes floating around among the fever swamps on the right is that Obama hasn’t done anything against ISIL/ISIS after the Paris attacks, while the Jordanian king is in uniform and is personally directing hellfire at ISIL.

So while that is actually Jordanian King in fatigues, President Obama hasn’t done nothing but release Gitmo terrorists back into the wild (which was done to get back Bowe Bergdahl and address his actions pursuant to the UCMJ). In fact, the US just took out an al Qaeda thug who celebrated the attack on video. And the US continues attacking ISIL and al Qaeda targets across the Middle East, Levant, North Africa, and South Asia.

About that photo…

King Abdullah vs. ISIS? Not so fast.
Twitter is, well, all atwitter as photos of Jordan’s King Abdullah preparing for combat go viral on social media. But the actual context behind the photos tell a very different story.

Today there are at least two photos circulating online of King Abdullah in combat fatigues, both claiming to one extent or another that he’s piloted a combat mission to attack ISIS himself. But looks can be deceiving.

The first photo shows the king standing in uniform. […]

WARNING: In the “Related stories” section after the end of the article there’s a photo of the Jordanian pilot burning in the cage, so you might want to scroll down slowly if you prefer to avoid it (I wish I had).

307 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 5, 2015 11:12:57am

Hi gang. I’ve been out of the loop for a while because I had my left kidney removed Tuesday. This was a radical nephrectomy, done because an MRI in December spotted a tumor in the middle of the kidney. It did indeed turn out to be cancer. The doc is sure this has gotten all of it since these tumors are relatively slow growing and we managed to find it early,

They used the laporascopic procedure, with a series of small incisions and a scary looking robot, but I was able to leave the hospital the next day.
The problem is that they inject CO2 into the body cavity during the procedure, it cannot all be removed, and this causes the worst case of gas bloating I have ever imagined. They tell me it will go away if I walk as much as possible and use stool softeners. In the meantime it is extremely painful, especially when I try to get up or down.

This is the SECOND time I have had a potentially fatal cancer detected at a very early stage during an MRI that had been conducted for a completely different reason.

People who don’t have insurance cannot get these preventive procedures done, since they are quite expensive (though they can save many lives and many millions in treatment down the road). Hospitals will usually treat cancer for indigent patients, but it is often too late by the time it is found.

My disgust with the “let em die” crowd could not be any higher. I have private insurance, but God bless Barack Obama and everyone associated with him for making this available to others, and doing so against ferocious opposition from the pitiless and short sighted elements who are, themselves, such a cancer upon this society..

308 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 5, 2015 11:15:00am

re: #307 Shiplord Kirel

Glad to hear you are doing well!

I can empathize on the pain. I had my appendix removed the same way. All I can say is it will get better; I think I was done with it in about a week.

309 ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2015 11:21:42am

re: #307 Shiplord Kirel

Hi gang. I’ve been out of the loop for a while because I had my left kidney removed Tuesday. This was a radical nephrectomy, done because an MRI in December spotted a tumor in the middle of the kidney. It did indeed turn out to be cancer. The doc is sure this has gotten all of it since these tumors are relatively slow growing and we managed to find it early,

They used the laporascopic procedure, with a series of small incisions and a scary looking robot, but I was able to leave the hospital the next day.
The problem is that they inject CO2 into the body cavity during the procedure, it cannot all be removed, and this causes the worst case of gas bloating I have ever imagined. They tell me it will go away if I walk as much as possible and use stool softeners. In the meantime it is extremely painful, especially when I try to get up or down.

This is the SECOND time I have had a potentially fatal cancer detected at a very early stage during an MRI that had been conducted for a completely different reason.

People who don’t have insurance cannot get these preventive procedures done, since they are quite expensive (though they can save many lives and many millions in treatment down the road). Hospitals will usually treat cancer for indigent patients, but it is often too late by the time it is found.

My disgust with the “let em die” crowd could not be any higher. I have private insurance, but God bless Barack Obama and everyone associated with him for making this available to others, and doing so against ferocious opposition from the pitiless and short sighted elements who are, themselves, such a cancer upon this society..

Whoa. Glad you got through that okay. Here’s hoping for good health.

310 thedopefishlives  Feb 5, 2015 11:24:07am

re: #307 Shiplord Kirel

Glad you are okay and that it was caught.

311 Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2015 11:28:05am

re: #307 Shiplord Kirel

Hi gang. I’ve been out of the loop for a while because I had my left kidney removed Tuesday. This was a radical nephrectomy, done because an MRI in December spotted a tumor in the middle of the kidney. It did indeed turn out to be cancer. The doc is sure this has gotten all of it since these tumors are relatively slow growing and we managed to find it early,

They used the laporascopic procedure, with a series of small incisions and a scary looking robot, but I was able to leave the hospital the next day.
The problem is that they inject CO2 into the body cavity during the procedure, it cannot all be removed, and this causes the worst case of gas bloating I have ever imagined. They tell me it will go away if I walk as much as possible and use stool softeners. In the meantime it is extremely painful, especially when I try to get up or down.

This is the SECOND time I have had a potentially fatal cancer detected at a very early stage during an MRI that had been conducted for a completely different reason.

People who don’t have insurance cannot get these preventive procedures done, since they are quite expensive (though they can save many lives and many millions in treatment down the road). Hospitals will usually treat cancer for indigent patients, but it is often too late by the time it is found.

My disgust with the “let em die” crowd could not be any higher. I have private insurance, but God bless Barack Obama and everyone associated with him for making this available to others, and doing so against ferocious opposition from the pitiless and short sighted elements who are, themselves, such a cancer upon this society..

So you’ll be getting bills from surgeon, anesthesiologist, and SodaStream?

(Good catch, anyway.)

312 Kragar  Feb 5, 2015 11:31:01am
313 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 5, 2015 11:44:07am

re: #105 darthstar

[Embedded content]

My priest often talks about how important doubt is to faith. Lord knows I can only agree.

314 Jenner7  Feb 5, 2015 11:49:35am

re: #307 Shiplord Kirel

Second time? Damn. Glad you are okay. :)

315 Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2015 12:16:01pm

re: #270 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Seals and Crofts:

[Embedded content]

Video

Great song. I love playing it on my 12-string.

316 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 5, 2015 12:28:19pm

re: #314 Jenner7

Second time? Damn. Glad you are okay. :)

At this rate he will soon he half the man he used to be.
(Sorry - Beatles riffs are rife in the thread.)

317 palomino  Feb 5, 2015 10:25:06pm

re: #243 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

Why the hell does Jindal’s portrait make him look like Rick Santorum?

Even the rubes in Lousy-ana won’t be fooled by this…they know he’s not white.


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Inside the Middle East’s First Rape & Domestic Violence Crisis Program For the last year and a half, there’s been a new sight in the Kingdom of Bahrain. Lodged into stacks of newspapers, stuck to mirrors in restaurant bathrooms, and pinned to grocery store notice boards are small, blue-and-white fliers ...
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First Aid Kit - My Silver LiningFirst Aid Kit perform My Silver Lining at Glastonbury 2017
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Jangada - Claudia Villela Quartet at Kuumbwa Jazz Jangada written by Claudia Villela, performed by the Claudia Villela Quartet at Kuumbwa Jazz, Santa Cruz, CA, April 15, 2013 Claudia Villela - vocals, piano, percussionCelso Alberti - drums/percussionJeff Buenz - guitarsGary Brown - bass videography by John Mountaudio ...
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