Associated Press Confirms Flooding and Floating Bodies Near Brian Williams’ Hotel During Katrina

The Ginger Avenger’s big scoop blows up
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Following up on our previous post about the now almost certainly false claim launched by wingnut stalker Chuck C. Johnson that NBC anchor Brian Williams was “lying” about seeing a dead body floating in a flooded street from his hotel room in New Orleans, the Associated Press has now confirmed that:

  1. Brian Williams was staying at the Ritz Carlton Hotel.
  2. The Ritz Carlton did experience severe flooding.
  3. There were definitely dead bodies floating in the streets in this area.

Here’s the AP report: NBC Launches Internal Probe on Brian Williams’ Iraq Claims. (h/t: @ProgressGA.)

Questions also were raised about statements Williams made on coverage of Hurricane Katrina, which was one of his proudest moments at NBC. In a 2006 interview with former Disney CEO Michael Eisner, Williams twice referenced seeing a body float down a street in New Orleans.

“When you look out of your hotel room window in the French Quarter and watch a man float by face down, when you see bodies that you last saw in Banda Aceh, Indonesia, and swore to yourself that you would never see in your country,” Williams said.

[…]

The remarks drew suspicion because during Katrina there was relatively little flooding in New Orleans’ French Quarter.

Williams was staying at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in New Orleans, according to an NBC source who was not authorized to speak on personnel matters and requested anonymity.

Police Capt. James Scott, who was a commander in the downtown area, said he saw a body floating along the edge of the French Quarter on a street about four blocks from the Ritz-Carlton, which was surrounded by up to 3 feet of water.

Alex Brandon, a Washington-based photographer for The Associated Press, said there was enough water to launch a flat-bottomed boat from in front of the Ritz. He said he photographed a dead body floating on another street a few blocks from the Ritz.

If Brian Williams lied about his helicopter being shot down in Iraq, that’s still a serious problem for him. But the news outlets that fell for Chuck C. Johnson’s bogus story claiming he was also lying about seeing a floating body from his hotel room were clearly taken in by a right wing con man.

We can only hope that more of the media have learned their lesson now about treating this guy as a credible source.

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329 comments
1 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 5:38:35pm

Why are you listening to those real journalists doing real journalism with named sources and everything?

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2 thedopefishlives  Feb 6, 2015 5:39:48pm

Charles, you forgot to credit GotNews for this EXCLUSIVE BREAKING story. Now Chuck C. Johnson, award-winning journalist douchecanoe, is going to have to sue you for libel.

3 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 6, 2015 5:41:46pm

This site has some photos: OBVIOUS WARNING.

cryptome. org/info/katdead-01/katrina-dead-01.htm

Patricia Jefferson Joseph cries after viewing A dead body at left just outside the historic French Quarter in New Orleans, La., Sunday, Sept. 4, 2005. (AP Photo/Rick Bowmer)

A dead body lies wrapped in a sheet on a piece of plywood on Rampart Street just outside the French Quarter in New Orleans, La., Sunday, Sept. 4, 2005. The city is littered with bodies, some of them victims of Hurricane Katrina and some of them victims of the post hurricane violence that gripped the city for several days before troops arrived. (AP Photo/Rick Bowmer)

The body of a man lies less than a quarter of a mile from the French Market in New Orleans Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2005. Louisiana State Police say it appeared the white male was strangled. (AP Photo/The Times, Greg Pearson)

4 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 5:44:33pm
5 Bubblehead II  Feb 6, 2015 5:47:34pm

Wonder if Ann is going to back peddle on this or double down on the derp?

6 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 5:48:32pm

It’s like something from a Romanian fairytale that steals children and has to be killed via a mung bean pancake through the kidney at sunrise went into web journalism.

7 b.d.  Feb 6, 2015 5:48:35pm

Anyone who used GoatNews as a source got exactly what they deserve.

8 b.d.  Feb 6, 2015 5:49:10pm

re: #5 Bubblehead II

Wonder if Ann is going to back peddle on this or double down on the derp?

Rule #1 of Baggerdom, never apologize.

9 goddamnedfrank  Feb 6, 2015 5:49:51pm

From hotel executive.com

In 1989, Ms. deGersdorff joined Ritz-Carlton, helping to expand the luxury chain from just eight hotels, opening new properties in Pentagon City, Tysons Corner, Philadelphia, San Francisco and Cancun. She managed a total renovation and three years of food and beverage operations in Washington D.C., leaving when promoted to general manager in Kansas City, where she significantly improved guest and employee satisfaction and profit retention. She then returned to Pentagon City as general manager, leading 800 employees and guests through the 9/11 attacks on the Pentagon.

Following tenure as general manager in Philadelphia, she was promoted in 2005 to area general manager for the company’s three hotels in New Orleans. Amidst the tragedy, with 1,200 guests and employees stranded in flood waters from Hurricane Katrina, her decisive crisis management saved lives.

From the Construction company that performed the repairs.

Gootee Construction has a long standing relationship with The Ritz-Carlton New Orleans. Prior to Hurricane Katrina, we performed several exterior renovations and upgrades. The hotel sustained significant storm damage, and Gootee restored it to its pre-storm condition. Everything in the flooded basement was repaired and restored—staff offices, the laundry system, and AHUs for the first three floors.

10 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 6, 2015 5:50:56pm

re: #5 Bubblehead II

Wonder if Ann is going to back peddle on this or double down on the derp?

Is that even a serious question?

11 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 5:51:46pm

re: #5 Bubblehead II

Ann never admits errors. Ever.

12 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 6, 2015 5:52:25pm

Sorry to go OT so early, but posting from downstairs:
Another puppy break.

After looking at some photos, and doing a bit of googling, it’s apparent to me that Murphy isn’t a Cairn, but is possibly a Glen of Imaal Terrier. Which is fine, except for the relationship with the two cats. These dogs were bred to hunt small animals like cats, so I’m not sure about that. He’s been interested in the cats, but I can’t see it as a killer instinct. Just kinda “What’s this?” The cats are going crazy atm.

Anyone have similar breeds who also has cats?

Adding, I hope he and the cats are able to co-exist. He’s really smart, trained even, and very happy to be here.

Happy day, long day!
13 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 6, 2015 5:53:41pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Ann never admits errors. Ever.

I am amazed Ann has a job at this point. She’s more vile than Rush and full of so much shit.

14 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 6, 2015 5:55:18pm

re: #8 b.d.

Rule #1 of Baggerdom, never apologize.

Rule #2 is that it’s always someone else’s fault.

15 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 5:57:20pm
16 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 5:57:34pm

re: #13 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I am amazed Ann has a job at this point. She’s more vile than Rush and full of so much shit.

Ann will keep going until somebody releases the curse.

17 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 5:57:35pm
18 thedopefishlives  Feb 6, 2015 5:58:24pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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DAMN THE TORPEDOES, FULL SPEED AHEAD!

19 goddamnedfrank  Feb 6, 2015 5:59:05pm

Nail, meet coffin.

20 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 6, 2015 6:01:51pm

re: #16 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar

Ann will keep going until somebody releases the curse.

Do we have that person’s number?

21 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 6:02:02pm

I could almost write Chuck’s post for him. He’s going to claim he has anonymous witnesses.

22 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 6:03:06pm

re: #20 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Do we have that person’s number?

At this point, I’ve given up on Neil Diamond doing the right thing.

23 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 6, 2015 6:03:15pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

I could almost write Chuck’s post for him. He’s going to claim he has anonymous witnesses.

Or he’ll cite something available online, completely distorting it.

24 b.d.  Feb 6, 2015 6:03:40pm

So all of the wingnuts that hit unfollow a week ago and follow today will be hitting unfollow later on again tonight?

25 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 6, 2015 6:03:59pm

re: #13 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I am amazed Ann has a job at this point. She’s more vile than Rush and full of so much shit.

That’s precisely why she HAS a job.

26 Bubblehead II  Feb 6, 2015 6:04:55pm

re: #8 b.d.

re: #10 Blind Frog Belly White

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Knew I should have used sarc tags.

27 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 6:05:00pm

re: #24 b.d.

So all of the wingnuts that hit unfollow a week ago and follow today will be hitting unfollow later on again tonight?

Brian Williams is not Of The Wingnut Body.

So…no.

28 b.d.  Feb 6, 2015 6:05:18pm

re: #23 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Or he’ll cite something available online, completely distorting it.

BREAKING! HURRICANE KATRINA DID NOT SCORE A DIRECT HIT ON NEW ORLEANS AFTER ALL. MUST CREDIT GOATNEWS OR I WILL SUE YOU

29 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 6, 2015 6:06:18pm

re: #16 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar

Ann will keep going until somebody releases the curse.

Somewhere, in a locked room in her house, there’s a really, REALLY ugly portrait of her, and it gets worse every time she appears on TV or publishes a column.

30 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 6, 2015 6:06:36pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

I could almost write Chuck’s post for him. He’s going to claim he has anonymous witnesses.

His unnamed guy on the NOPD will back him up completely. Am I the only one who’s noticed that despite the number of women employed everywhere upchuck only has guys as his inside sources?

31 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 6:07:18pm
32 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 6, 2015 6:07:22pm

Blast from the past:

littlegreenfootballs.com

Here’s an interesting e-mail from a Doctor in New Orleans to staff at UAMS, courtesy of LGF reader CoCo:

***
This is a dispatch from New Orleans from Dr. Greg Henderson, a pathologist who recently moved from Wilmington:

[…]

Personally, my family and I are fine. My family is safe in Jackson, Miss., and I am now a temporary resident of the Ritz Carleton Hotel in New Orleans.[…]

Things were obviously bad yesterday, but they are much worse today. Overnight the water arrived. Now Canal Street (true to its origins) is indeed a canal. The first floor of all downtown buildings is underwater.

33 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 6:09:19pm

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

Somewhere, in a locked room in her house, there’s a really, REALLY ugly portrait of her, and it gets worse every time she appears on TV or publishes a column.

I always figured the locked room would be more of an Erzebet Bathory affair.

34 Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2015 6:10:54pm

re: #33 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar

I always figured the locked room would be more of an Erzebet Bathory affair.

That would put the supposed efficacy of blood bathing to rest.

35 b.d.  Feb 6, 2015 6:10:57pm

Here is the quality of proof that Chuck will come up with so I am preemptively countering his claim.:

36 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 6:10:59pm
37 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 6:12:15pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

That would put the supposed efficacy of blood bathing to rest.

…well played.

{golf clap}

38 A Cranky One  Feb 6, 2015 6:13:25pm

re: #12 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I replied in the previous thread.

Link

39 b.d.  Feb 6, 2015 6:14:01pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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Of course the hotel owner is not the owner of the Ritz Carlton, he’s some dude who owns a totally different hotel.

40 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 6, 2015 6:15:35pm

re: #39 b.d.

Of course the hotel owner is not the owner of the Ritz Carlton, he’s some dude who owns a totally different hotel.

He’s reporting something 10 years later, contradicting contemporary reports. Yeah, that’s credible.

41 Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2015 6:15:40pm

re: #39 b.d.

Of course the hotel owner is not the owner of the Ritz Carlton, he’s some dude who owns a totally different hotel.

And it’s not really a hotel, more of a whorehouse. And he’s not really the owner, more the nightporter. And it’s not quite in NO, closer to Biloxi…

42 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 6:16:31pm
43 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 6, 2015 6:16:39pm

I LOVE how his eyewitness account automatically blows not only eyewitness accounts, but also photos and contemporaneous accounts out of the water.

44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 6, 2015 6:16:40pm

re: #16 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar

Ann will keep going until somebody releases the curse Kraken.

45 b.d.  Feb 6, 2015 6:18:03pm

I think Chuck might be fishing for Brian Williams to be his angel donor, Chuck is the best thing that has happened to him in the past few days.

46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 6, 2015 6:18:19pm

re: #23 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Or he’ll cite something available online, completely distorting it.

But still demand credit, even though somebody by definition beat him to it—since he got it online.

47 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 6:18:47pm

re: #44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Obama needs to release the birth certificate *and* the Kraken.

48 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 6, 2015 6:19:37pm

re: #38 A Cranky One

Hey, thanks! The cats have been spitting when I brought him in the room with them. He seems to be wary but curious. We’ll see.

49 b.d.  Feb 6, 2015 6:21:48pm

OK Chuck time to dig deeper for sources. Go after Michael Brown or try and see if Ray Nagin will see you during visiting hours.

50 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 6:22:06pm

re: #48 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Hey, thanks! The cats have been spitting when I brought him in the room with them. He seems to be wary but curious. We’ll see.

My cats were very, very cautious when we introduced a new cat to the mix. As in it took 6 months and some kitty hormones to get the hissing to stop on a regular basis.

So it may not just be the puppy you will have to worry about. >.>

51 Souliren  Feb 6, 2015 6:22:17pm

>40 years ago, I was a young technician in a new industry where margins were fat so my employer sent me to a convention in New Orleans. I do not remember the name of the hotel but it was in the French Quarter because I would walk to Bourbon Street.

On the day the convention ended, there was a storm. My return was delayed for several days.. It was wonderful.

I would walk to Bourbon Street, the music was fabulous. A bar playing classical blues with three old black musicians and a young white musician with long blond hair and not a soul in the bar talking or doing anything except listening.

Two building s farther along (still carrying the same drink) , and a three piece hard rock band is playing.

The water in my hotel was up to my knees in the lobby for two days.

Going back to Bourbon street is on my bucket list.

52 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 6, 2015 6:23:10pm

re: #49 b.d.

OK Chuck time to dig deeper for sources. Go after Michael Brown or try and see if Ray Nagin will see you during visiting hours.

All he wants is for GWB to say “Heckuva job, Chucky.”

53 Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2015 6:23:19pm

re: #49 b.d.

OK Chuck time to dig deeper for sources. Go after Michael Brown or try and see if Ray Nagin will see you during visiting hours.

Take a bag of coffee—lots of chickory.

54 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 6, 2015 6:23:21pm

Canal Street: New Orleans’ Great Wide Way

Chapter 16: Hurricane Katrina

55 Romantic Heretic  Feb 6, 2015 6:23:46pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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How can he destroy something he never had?

56 b_sharp  Feb 6, 2015 6:26:14pm

re: #50 klystron

My cats were very, very cautious when we introduced a new cat to the mix. As in it took 6 months and some kitty hormones to get the hissing to stop on a regular basis.

So it may not just be the puppy you will have to worry about. >.>

When we introduced Remy to Jack, Jack started cleaning him. He held him down with one paw and cleaned his head.

Now, Remy runs around looking for Jack and asking me where he is.

57 b.d.  Feb 6, 2015 6:27:06pm

re: #52 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

All he wants is for GWB to say “Heckuva job, Chucky.”

I will go on the record now and say that I will pony up $250.00 to commission George W. to do a portrait of Chuck. I’ll donate it to the entry hall of LGF world headquarters.

58 Great White Snark  Feb 6, 2015 6:28:17pm

Daesh claims a Jordanian airstrike killed an American hostage, a woman. If true unfortunate she was not rescued, but far batter an airstrike got her than anything Daesh would do.

59 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 6:28:27pm
60 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 6:28:41pm

re: #56 b_sharp

When we introduced Remy to Jack, Jack started cleaning him. He held him down with one paw and cleaned his head.

Now, Remy runs around looking for Jack and asking me where he is.

Ironically, the one we were introducing was a littermate of one of the other two.

…of course, maybe that explains something.

61 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 6:29:24pm

I just discovered a rather sizable miscount in the current project that will result in a lot of pulling out and redoing.

I am not pleased.

62 Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2015 6:30:10pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

And now, the grift. Always, inevitably, the grift.

That’s the online version of washing car windows at a stoplight.

63 Single-handed sailor  Feb 6, 2015 6:31:01pm

re: #61 klystron

I just discovered a rather sizable miscount in the current project that will result in a lot of pulling out and redoing.

I am not pleased.

Find solace in the fact it rained today.

64 dog philosopher  Feb 6, 2015 6:31:02pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

And now, the grift. Always, inevitably, the grift

the grift, the whole grift, and nothing but the grift, so help you god

65 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 6, 2015 6:33:43pm

re: #54 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Canal Street: New Orleans’ Great Wide Way

Chapter 16: Hurricane Katrina

Note the flooded Walgreens photo. That’s just across the street from Ritz-Carlton.

google.com

66 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 6:33:48pm
67 b_sharp  Feb 6, 2015 6:34:30pm

re: #60 klystron

Ironically, the one we were introducing was a littermate of one of the other two.

…of course, maybe that explains something.

Jack came from my daughter who at one time had 15 cats in her house, including Jack as a kitten.

68 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 6:34:34pm

A comprehensive list of Chuck’s anonymous sources:

- a Cheeto
- a Toots and the Maytals album
- a completely different chicken than the one mentioned in the list of things I trust more than Chuck Johnson
- atmospheric nitrogen
- a coffee stain
- Neil Diamond (BECAUSE THERE’S REALLY NOT ANY OTHER WAY YOU CAN DISAPPOINT US MORE, IS THERE, NEIL?)
- the withered soul of William F Buckley, captured in a silver thimble that a duck wears as a hat
- yet another chicken
- a chunk of todalite gneiss
- a piece of paper with the word “anonymous source” written on it
- a Flamin’ Hot Cheeto

69 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 6:35:56pm

re: #68 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar

[rare belly laugh]

70 Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2015 6:38:05pm

re: #68 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar

Missed the part about his mercury amalgam fillings acting as an RF detector.

71 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 6, 2015 6:38:12pm

re: #68 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar

You forgot a codpiece.

72 darthstar  Feb 6, 2015 6:40:05pm
73 Bubblehead II  Feb 6, 2015 6:43:04pm

re: #68 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar

A comprehensive list of Chuck’s anonymous sources:

- a Cheeto
- a Toots and the Maytals album
- a completely different chicken than the one mentioned in the list of things I trust more than Chuck Johnson
- atmospheric nitrogen
- a coffee stain
- Neil Diamond (BECAUSE THERE’S REALLY NOT ANY OTHER WAY YOU CAN DISAPPOINT US MORE, IS THERE, NEIL?)
- the withered soul of William F Buckley, captured in a silver thimble that a duck wears as a hat
- yet another chicken
- a chunk of todalite gneiss
- a piece of paper with the word “anonymous source” written on it
- a Flamin’ Hot Cheeto

You forgot the Ca. Raisins.

74 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 6:44:01pm

re: #73 Bubblehead II

You forgot the Ca. Raisins.

Way too brown for Chuck’s tastes.

75 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 6, 2015 6:44:34pm

Reposted from downstairs.

gotnwes.com apologizes for stealing the photo above. It’s for a good cause.

RISE OF KATRINA FLOODING PHOTO TRUTHERS: That’s not water! It’s moisture from the humid New Orleans air!

76 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 6:44:42pm

re: #71 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

You forgot a codpiece.

The codpiece has an exclusive contract with Glenn Beck.

77 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 6, 2015 6:45:13pm

A Failure of Initiative
The Final Report of the Select Bipartisan Committee to Investigate the Preparation for and Response to Hurricane Katrina

katrina.house.gov

By the morning of Tuesday, August 30, the Ritz-Carlton
was surrounded by three to five feet of water and Canal
Street was flooding.

[…]

Henderson, along with a family practice physician, pharmacist, and
two officers from the New Orleans Police Department
(NOPD), waded across Canal Street through waist-high
water to the Walgreens pharmacy across the street.

78 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 6, 2015 6:45:37pm

re: #74 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar

Way too brown for Chuck’s tastes.

RASIST!!11!!

79 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 6:46:48pm

re: #78 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

RASIST!!11!!

I tap 2 Mana and summon Hot Asian Wife, which grants a +5 protection bonus versus accusations of racism.

80 Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2015 6:47:02pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

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The outboard motorboat in that picture gives a good idea of the depth. At some point it was deep enough to allow the shaft to be lowered and the prop safely spinning. Couple of feet, if you expect someone to risk a very critical piece of survival transport.

81 KingKenrod  Feb 6, 2015 6:47:12pm

Chuck’s source didn’t own the Saint Hotel property during Katrina. He bought the building in 2010 and converted it into a hotel. So he was probably only reporting what had been told to him second hand.

According to this story, he only became aware of the building during a day trip to New Orleans in 2010.

nola.com

Chuck is trying to make it seem like this guy was an eyewitness. He clearly was not.

82 Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2015 6:48:19pm

re: #81 KingKenrod

Chuck’s source didn’t own the Saint Hotel property during Katrina. He bought the building in 2010 and converted it into a hotel. So he was probably only reporting what had been told to him second hand.

According to this story, he only became aware of the building during a day trip to New Orleans in 2010.

nola.com

Chuck is trying to make it seem like this guy was an eyewitness. He clearly was not.

Heh. Whorehouse, nightporter, Biloxi.

83 darthstar  Feb 6, 2015 6:51:02pm

It’s times like this when I’m thankful for people like Chuck Johnson. He’s such an asshole, and it makes me forget about some of the assholes I’m dealing with at work to mock this little ginger fucker whom I’ve never met and likely never will…without mercy. That gives me a sense of peace.

/partial

84 darthstar  Feb 6, 2015 6:52:43pm
85 b.d.  Feb 6, 2015 6:54:03pm

re: #84 darthstar

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I thought he drove Lincolns?

86 ObserverArt  Feb 6, 2015 6:54:25pm

Since there will be long waits for the truth to come out of the distorted reporting of all WRNJ stories, and the need for general watching of the Republican party flailing about…I give you this.

I don’t know if you can buy it in such volume, so I created the image of what is needed.

Just the right amount for when keeping track of slanted political news
87 b.d.  Feb 6, 2015 6:55:11pm

re: #84 darthstar

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I can’t understand why the Longhorns allow that guy on their sidelines?

88 darthstar  Feb 6, 2015 6:55:59pm

re: #85 b.d.

I thought he drove Lincolns?

Is that what those are? Shit.

89 b.d.  Feb 6, 2015 6:57:22pm

Is Brian Williams even a reporter or a news reading anchor? I know he is as much of a member of the press as Glenn Greenwald’s squeeze.

90 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 6, 2015 6:59:15pm

UpChuck is the Boy Who Cried Wolf, personified. And I stress the word “boy,” because he’s got the maturity of a 14-year-old, or younger. He’s so desperate to impress people with a BIG SCOOP that he’ll latch onto any will o’the wisp idea and insist it’s 100% true.

For example,

The “fake” Prince Andrews/Victoria Roberts photo
North Korea not hacking Sony Pictures
No flooding in the French Quarter

And when people call out his obvious mistakes, he’s outraged! He’s fundamentally incapable of admitting error.

91 Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2015 6:59:27pm

re: #89 b.d.

Is Brian Williams even a reporter or a news reading anchor? I know he is as much of a member of the press as Glenn Greenwald’s squeeze.

Don’ make no never-mind, mon. Messing with the idiot child is a diversion, but Williams sells credibility, and his is in the remainders bin.

92 Great White Snark  Feb 6, 2015 7:00:28pm

re: #86 ObserverArt

I assume that’s just the kernels. I’ll volunteer my furnace for the popping of the corn. Heh Dark has his Troll grill I got the furnace for adequate popcornage for upcoming events.

93 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 7:01:28pm
94 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 7:01:53pm

re: #90 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

UpChuck is the Boy Who Cried Wolf, personified. And I stress the word “boy,” because he’s got the maturity of a 14-year-old, or younger. He’s so desperate to impress people with a BIG SCOOP that he’ll latch onto any will o’the wisp idea and insist it’s 100% true.

For example,

The “fake” Prince Andrews/Victoria Roberts photo
North Korea not hacking Sony Pictures
No flooding in the French Quarter

And when people call out his obvious mistakes, he’s outraged! He’s fundamentally incapable of admitting error.

The scary thing is, I look at Chuck’s behavior and think “either this is pants-shitting stupid vainglory, or it’s a perfectly good business strategy for wheedling cash from wingnuts.”

95 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 6, 2015 7:04:02pm

re: #89 b.d.

Is Brian Williams even a reporter or a news reading anchor? I know he is as much of a member of the press as Glenn Greenwald’s squeeze.

Williams did yeoman work at local TV stations, and worked his way up the broadcasting ladder to his current seat as anchor. A fair amount of broadcast journalism is rip-and-read (edit and read the news wire), which print media reporters use to scoff that broadcast reporters are not really journalists. On the other hand (I’m speaking as a former print journalist), Williams has reported from some dangerous locations and done a creditable job. He’s not Edward R. Murrow, but he’s not a total loser, either.

96 Bubblehead II  Feb 6, 2015 7:04:46pm

Night Lizards.

97 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 7:05:00pm
98 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 6, 2015 7:06:00pm

re: #94 The Ghost of the Vanishing Commissar

The scary thing is, I look at Chuck’s behavior and think “either this is pants-shitting stupid vainglory, or it’s a perfectly good business strategy for wheedling cash from wingnuts.”

Both, really. I suspect he learned the technique while growing up, from doting parents.

99 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 7:08:59pm

re: #98 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Both, really. I suspect he learned the technique while growing up, from doting parents.

I figured he learned it from Rush Limbaugh and delicious lead paint.

The pernicious influence of Neil Diamond is a given.

100 b_sharp  Feb 6, 2015 7:09:32pm

Has anyone seen a transcript of where Williams claims his helicopter was hit by an RPG? The only one I saw he mentioned the lead helicopter being hit, not the one he was riding in.

101 Decatur Deb  Feb 6, 2015 7:11:39pm

re: #100 b_sharp

Has anyone seen a transcript of where Williams claims his helicopter was hit by an RPG? The only one I saw he mentioned the lead helicopter being hit, not the one he was riding in.

There is a range of conditions from precautionary landing, to forced landing, to ‘shot down’. Over the years of retelling that kind of precision can easily be lost.

102 ObserverArt  Feb 6, 2015 7:12:07pm

re: #92 Great White Snark

I assume that’s just the kernels. I’ll volunteer my furnace for the popping of the corn. Heh Dark has his Troll grill I got the furnace for adequate popcornage for upcoming events.

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Oh yeah, bulk, not yet popped. 55 gallon barrel of the stuff.

103 Great White Snark  Feb 6, 2015 7:15:05pm

re: #102 ObserverArt

1st batch.

104 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 7:15:46pm

re: #61 klystron

I just discovered a rather sizable miscount in the current project that will result in a lot of pulling out and redoing.

I am not pleased.

I have finished pulling out the mistakes. It was essentially all of what I did while he was in England.

Fortunately, I was so unfocused that I didn’t get as much done as I would have otherwise.

105 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 7:16:17pm

I see a lurking ObserverArt, CBJ did a good job tonight. :)

106 ObserverArt  Feb 6, 2015 7:16:46pm

re: #103 Great White Snark

1st batch.

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Heh. That’s probably about how much would be popped out of a 55 gallon drum. Good find.

107 ObserverArt  Feb 6, 2015 7:18:26pm

re: #105 klystron

I see a lurking ObserverArt, CBJ did a good job tonight. :)

7 goals! And, the backup to officer Bob kept St. Louis to 1. Still a tough road.

108 BeenHereAwhile  Feb 6, 2015 7:20:18pm

re: #12 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Sorry to go OT so early, but posting from downstairs:
Another puppy break.

After looking at some photos, and doing a bit of googling, it’s apparent to me that Murphy isn’t a Cairn, but is possibly a Glen of Imaal Terrier. Which is fine, except for the relationship with the two cats. These dogs were bred to hunt small animals like cats, so I’m not sure about that. He’s been interested in the cats, but I can’t see it as a killer instinct. Just kinda “What’s this?” The cats are going crazy atm.

Anyone have similar breeds who also has cats?

Adding, I hope he and the cats are able to co-exist. He’s really smart, trained even, and very happy to be here.

Image: Happy day, long day!

The cats were there first, and the house is well marked by their scent.

The dog is new to the territory, so he and the cats (who will probably hide and avoid the dog for some days to a week or so) will work things out.

Just relax and don’t rush them to get along.

109 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 6, 2015 7:23:54pm

re: #88 darthstar

Is that what those are? Shit.

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Bite me.

Ain’t it purty?

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110 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 7:24:45pm
111 bratwurst  Feb 6, 2015 7:26:27pm

The great medical expert Bill Maher is giving a lecture on immunology and health tonight. Switching to prison documentaries on MSNBC…more scientifically sound.

112 ObserverArt  Feb 6, 2015 7:27:06pm

Later all. Enjoy the popcorn.

Hopefully some of you on the late shift will get to watch Chucky CeeJay implode a bit tonight. He seems about ready to start pulling rabbits out of his hat or something, not quite sure. Dude is way too odd to figure…all you can do is watch.

113 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 6, 2015 7:27:30pm

re: #111 bratwurst

The great medical expert Bill Maher is giving a lecture on immunology and health tonight. Switching to prison documentaries on MSNBC…more scientifically sound.

Isn’t there some white trash family somewhere squabbling on camera for money?

114 jaunte  Feb 6, 2015 7:27:58pm
MAHER: I’m not into western medicine. That to me is a complete scare tactic. It just shows you, you can…

KING: You mean you don’t get a — you don’t get a flu shot?

MAHER: A flu shot is the worst thing you can do.

KING: Why?

MAHER: Because it’s got — it’s got mercury.
scienceblogs.com

115 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 7:28:33pm

re: #111 bratwurst

The great medical expert Bill Maher is giving a lecture on immunology and health tonight. Switching to prison documentaries on MSNBC…more scientifically sound.

Bill Maher’s medical expertise was bestowed on him by the same chicken Chuck uses as an anonymous source.

116 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 6, 2015 7:29:07pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

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Buy him dinner? Wasn’t he offering to hire someone just a couple weeks back, and now he’s offering to lie for the price of dinner?

117 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 6, 2015 7:29:12pm

re: #114 jaunte

But mercury is what the plants crave!

118 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 7:30:02pm
119 jaunte  Feb 6, 2015 7:30:38pm
120 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 7:31:57pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

When one considers the verb “turn off” as antithesis to “turn on” in the erotic sense, this tweet is hilarious.

121 b.d.  Feb 6, 2015 7:33:31pm

Maher ain’t smoking the same pot he did 30 years ago but I guess that kind of genetic modification is ok?

122 Great White Snark  Feb 6, 2015 7:35:25pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

123 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 6, 2015 7:42:23pm

For someone allegedly so rationalist, he surely buys the whole anti-(“Western”) medicine woo. Reminds me of Sam Harris, who indicated that he believes in some “spiritual”-paranormal bullshit.

124 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 7:48:41pm

re: #123 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

For someone so allegedly rationalist, he surely buys the whole anti-(“Western”) medicine woo. Reminds me of Sam Harris, who indicated that he believes in some “spiritual”-paranormal bullshit.

Bill Maher is “rational.”
Eric Eriksson is “a devout Christian.”
Daesh are “devout Muslims.”
Neil Diamond is “a member of the species homo sapiens sapiens.”

125 Jenner7  Feb 6, 2015 7:52:22pm

re: #88 darthstar

He drove them before it was “cool”.

It was never cool.

126 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 7:54:56pm

I’m sure a few people here can empathize with this.

127 Belafon  Feb 6, 2015 7:55:21pm

re: #88 darthstar

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128 Great White Snark  Feb 6, 2015 8:00:09pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

So… This is a thing. Saw it on the news tonight and looked it up to kinda gut check. WTH are these people thinking.

A pox party (also measles party, flu party etc.) is a social activity where children are deliberately exposed to an infectious disease, supposedly to promote immunity. Such parties are typically organized by anti-vaccinationists on the premise of building the immune systems of their children against diseases such as chickenpox and measles (which can be more dangerous to adults than to children) or flu. Such practices are highly controversial and are discouraged by public health officials in favor of vaccination.[1] In the USA, if the exposure involves the United States Postal Service to swap contaminated items, the practice is illegal.[2]

129 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 8:02:55pm

re: #128 Great White Snark

I’ve definitely heard about those in a historical context. Not necessarily surprised to hear about them showing up again, although I suspect they mostly focus on chicken pox these days.

130 Great White Snark  Feb 6, 2015 8:03:24pm

re: #129 klystron

I’ve definitely heard about those in a historical context. Not necessarily surprised to hear about them showing up again, although I suspect they mostly focus on chicken pox these days.

My jaw, hanging.

131 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 8:05:27pm

re: #130 Great White Snark

My jaw, hanging.

Before vaccines, I suspect some of the thought was to develop the immunity. Particularly for something like chicken pox, where exposure as a child is less likely to develop severe symptoms/consequences.*

These days it’s completely stupid, but so is being anti-vax.

* Less likely should not be interpreted to mean impossible.

132 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 6, 2015 8:05:42pm

re: #129 klystron

I’ve definitely heard about those in a historical context. Not necessarily surprised to hear about them showing up again, although I suspect they mostly focus on chicken pox these days.

Yeah, this has been a topic on Respectful Insolence for years. It was the chickenpox-infected lollypops going back and forth in the mail that got the Feds interested.

133 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 8:27:13pm

…

‘Night, Lizards

(The music is a highly-developed predatory adaptation that lulls you into complacency. Do not turn your back on Neil Diamond)

134 A Cranky One  Feb 6, 2015 8:33:07pm

re: #133 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

Don’t listen, Marion! Keep your ears shut!

135 stpaulbear  Feb 6, 2015 8:38:15pm

Not that I’ve been a big fan of Neil Diamond for the last 45 years, but what did he do to cause all of the mentions today? Did he do something more stupid than Jonathan Livingston Seagull?

136 Lidane  Feb 6, 2015 8:38:16pm

re: #133 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

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137 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 8:52:03pm

re: #135 stpaulbear

Not that I’ve been a big fan of Neil Diamond for the last 45 years, but what did he do to cause all of the mentions today? Did he do something more stupid than Jonathan Livingston Seagull?

Two reasons:

One, because he is the source of all misery, as is illustrated by this convenient diagram.

Two—the less satisfying reason—because I sometimes land upon strange notions and find them hilarious.

Three—do you have any time how many times I can listen to “Cherry, Cherry” and “Holly Holy” in one sitting? Many, many times. That shit is catchy.

138 teleskiguy  Feb 6, 2015 8:53:15pm
139 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 8:54:14pm

re: #137 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

This is the part where I admit that I cannot actually think of any songs by Neil Diamond that I know that I know?

140 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 8:55:03pm

re: #139 klystron

This is the part where I admit that I cannot actually think of any songs by Neil Diamond that I know that I know?

BLASPHEME

141 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 8:56:26pm

re: #140 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

BLASPHEME

Oh, look, Wiki tells me he wrote “I’m a Believer”. I know that one!

/hides

142 Timothy Watson  Feb 6, 2015 8:58:27pm

re: #136 Lidane

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I’ve got the Urge Overkill cover on my playlist, the Pulp Fiction soundtrack was awesome.

143 goddamnedfrank  Feb 6, 2015 9:01:58pm

Chuck is such a lying piece of shit.

144 stpaulbear  Feb 6, 2015 9:02:09pm

re: #137 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

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Two reasons:

One, because he is the source of all misery, as is illustrated by this convenient diagram.

Two—the less satisfying reason—because I sometimes land upon strange notions and find them hilarious.

Three—do you have any time how many times I can listen to “Cherry, Cherry” and “Holly Holy” in one sitting? Many, many times. That shit is catchy.

The cure for a Neil Diamond earworm is to watch The Jazz Singer and sit through every one of the movie’s 86,492 versions of ‘Love On The Rocks’. That earworm won’t have an intact atom afterwards.

145 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 6, 2015 9:05:42pm

Just to Video piss everybody off….

146 stpaulbear  Feb 6, 2015 9:10:17pm

re: #145 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Just to [Embedded content]

Video piss everybody off….

TL/DL (although almost everything I’ve read about that album says its a good one). I may have to subject myself to it some other evening. Too late now.

147 darthstar  Feb 6, 2015 9:11:22pm

re: #145 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I love Neil Diamond - I can’t stand that song the Red Sox fucked up with their ‘so good! so good! so good!’…that song is dead to me. But Hot August Night rocks…as does Solitary Man, Kentucky Woman, and a number of other songs.

148 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 9:12:11pm

re: #141 klystron

Oh, look, Wiki tells me he wrote “I’m a Believer”. I know that one!

/hides

If you don’t know it, it’s basically a catalog of catchy, smooth music that you’d probably recognize in bits and pieces.

Outside of my monkeyshines and nonsense for the evening (shockingly, the cephalopod assaulting society’s facets image was not originally labelled “Neil Diamond” but the far more conventional “Secular Humanism”), it’s not bad if you’re into torch singer type stuff. And some bits are really good if you are…which I am, I guess.

149 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 9:13:35pm

re: #148 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

I’m young enough that a lot of it predates me, which explains part of it.

Part of it is that I am just …not very good at pop culture.

150 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 6, 2015 9:15:01pm

It was probably the best-recorded concert album I’ve ever listened to. Back when I was alive, I used to have a Carver receiver with Sonic Holography. You have to sit exactly on the centerline—ideally forming an equilateral triangle with the speakers—but I could close my eyes and really feel like I was there.

151 stpaulbear  Feb 6, 2015 9:17:24pm

Kentucky Woman - Deep Purple.
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Ummm, not one of DP’s stellar moments…

152 Charles Johnson  Feb 6, 2015 9:17:57pm
153 Amory Blaine  Feb 6, 2015 9:18:01pm

Gov. Walker’s ‘Drafting Error’

It was not enough for Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin suddenly to propose a destructive 13 percent cut in state support for the University of Wisconsin’s widely respected system. His biennial budget plan, released Tuesday, reached gratuitously into the university’s hallowed 111-year-old mission statement to delete a bedrock principle: “Basic to every purpose of the system is the search for truth.”

The budget — patently tailored for the governor’s conservative campaign for the Republican presidential nomination — inserted language that the university should be more narrowly concerned with meeting “the state’s work force needs.”

Brazenly deleted as well from the mission statement, which is nationally appreciated in education circles as the Wisconsin Idea, were the far from controversial goals “to educate people and improve the human condition” and “serve and stimulate society.” It was as if a trade school agenda were substituted for the idea of a university.

154 Amory Blaine  Feb 6, 2015 9:21:50pm

Colorado offered free birth control — and teen births fell by 40 percent

A program that provides contraceptives to low-income women contributed to a 40-percent drop in Colorado’s teen birth rate between 2009 and 2013, according to state officials.

The program, known as the Colorado Family Planning Initiative, provides intrauterine devices (IUDs) or implants at little to no cost for low-income women at 68 family planning clinics in Colorado.

The teen abortion rate dropped by 35 percent from 2009 to 2012 in counties served by the program, according to the state’s estimates.

Young women served by the family planning clinics also accounted for about three-fourths of the overall decline in Colorado’s teen birth rate. And the infant caseload for Colorado WIC, a nutrition program for low-income women and their babies, fell by 23 percent from 2008 to 2013.

155 teleskiguy  Feb 6, 2015 9:24:08pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

What a creepy fucking image to attach to a tweet. UpChuck is so far beyond parody. I. Can’t. Even.

156 darthstar  Feb 6, 2015 9:24:51pm

re: #155 teleskiguy

What a creepy fucking image to attach to a tweet. UpChuck is so far beyond parody. I. Can’t. Even.

Yeah…I keep hoping he pisses off the wrong biker.

157 stpaulbear  Feb 6, 2015 9:24:53pm

not a Niel Diamond song, but this another classic. A fave of mine.

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158 De Kolta Chair  Feb 6, 2015 9:25:02pm

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159 darthstar  Feb 6, 2015 9:25:53pm

re: #158 De Kolta Chair

You forgot to change simitator to CCJ.

160 De Kolta Chair  Feb 6, 2015 9:28:59pm

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161 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 9:30:14pm

re: #149 klystron

I’m young enough that a lot of it predates me, which explains part of it.

Part of it is that I am just …not very good at pop culture.

I’m the child of an anthropologist and an ad exec who traveled constantly throughout childhood. Pop culture is primal soup in which I swim, consuming other cultural micro-organisms and wearing their external identity markers like hats.

And my music tastes are crazy anachronistic by thirty-something standards, thanks to my geezer parents and their big band/opera stylings. I get huffy if people don’t realize that Marilyn Manson was just ripping off Screamin’ Jay Hawkins.

I’d much rather have the kind of brain that could do, say, fancy geology stuff, like some people I know.

(As far as I can tell, you basically make Simarils.)
(Please don’t use your elf-wizard-geologist powers to smite me)

162 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 9:31:00pm

re: #161 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

(As far as I can tell, you basically make Simarils.)
(Please don’t use your elf-wizard-geologist powers to smite me)

Dude, I wish my life were that awesome.

163 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 6, 2015 9:36:17pm

re: #153 Amory Blaine

Gov. Walker’s ‘Drafting Error’

Man…fuck Scott Walker. I can’t believe he’s seriously considering running for President.

164 De Kolta Chair  Feb 6, 2015 9:36:44pm

re: #157 stpaulbear

not a Niel Diamond song, but this another classic. A fave of mine.

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I saw Deep Purple twice in the early seventies. They were a great live band. Johnny Rivers opened for them the second time I caught them, and when Purple came on stage, Ritchie Blackmore told the audience, “Johnny Rivers is one bad motherfucker.”

And he was right.

165 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 6, 2015 9:36:58pm

On another note: How’d you like to be the poor hotel manager picking up the phone every ten minutes when CCJ is calling?

166 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 9:38:02pm

Time for a name change. I was inspired.

167 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 6, 2015 9:39:29pm

And as my final post before I head to bed, I’d like to share with you all the lovely new toy I just got, courtesy of my tax return:

168 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 9:40:26pm
169 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 6, 2015 9:43:58pm

re: #164 De Kolta Chair

Johnny Rivers, another largely forgotten artist who shouldn’t be.

170 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 6, 2015 9:45:51pm

re: #166 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Time for a name change. I was inspired.

I don’t envy you the process of trying to get insurance for a Simaril-making operation?

Insurance agent: So what are your liabilities?

klys: Well, we trap the pure light of creation in gems. It tends to attract avaricious demiurges and assorted all-consuming horrors from the darkness. And launch generations-long blood feuds.

Insurance agent: well a security system is definitely in order then.

klys: And there just a teensy, weensy chance of employees developing hubris. And harmatia. And then stabbing up a bunch of folks.

171 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 6, 2015 9:46:27pm

re: #170 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

I don’t envy you the process of trying to get insurance for a Simaril-making operation?

That’s why I’m currently unemployed.

;)

172 Jayleia  Feb 6, 2015 9:46:52pm

re: #30 Higgs Boson’s Mate

He even creeps on his imaginary female sources until they file restraining orders.

173 De Kolta Chair  Feb 6, 2015 9:47:40pm

re: #169 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Johnny Rivers, another largely forgotten artist who shouldn’t be.

I hear that. Not just a great singer and dynamic performer, but a pretty darn good producer as well. His live albums recorded at the Whiskey A-Go-Go are brilliant.

174 blueraven  Feb 6, 2015 9:48:19pm

re: #169 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Johnny Rivers, another largely forgotten artist who shouldn’t be.

Billy Joe Royal

175 De Kolta Chair  Feb 6, 2015 9:50:32pm

re: #174 blueraven

Billy Joe Royal

As far as I know, he’s still jamming.

176 goddamnedfrank  Feb 6, 2015 9:52:36pm

Honestly I do think Williams could well have been embellishing. I have no doubt that he could have seen bodies floating elsewhere in the city and just reported it near his hotel where there was standing water. I’ve been DM’ing Myra and it seems like the water was highest at Canal St and probably wasn’t deep enough at the backs and sides to float a body, for whatever that’s worth. We both kind of find it hard to believe that they’d let a body stay facedown in water for long in Canal Street in front of two five star hotels, but it’s technically possible that he saw it there. It’s also possible Williams had some binoculars and was looking out further than directly next to the building. I also have no doubt that a body that is sitting face down in a few inches of water may look like it’s “floating” when it technically is not. If I saw something like that I’d probably turn away and might just assume it was moving when it wasn’t.

At the end of the day people did die in Katrina. There were floaters, it was a human tragedy, and there was flooding at the R-C. Williams may well have constructed the incident he reported from other things he did actually see earlier that day or in the week, kind of like William Hurt faking his reaction shot in Broadcast News. If he did then yeah, that’s unethical, but there’s no smoking gun here.

177 blueraven  Feb 6, 2015 9:52:52pm

re: #175 De Kolta Chair

As far as I know, he’s still jamming.

I think so…

My Mom and Dad used to go listen to him in the early 60s at the Bamboo Ranch in Savannah Ga.

178 TedStriker  Feb 6, 2015 9:53:09pm

re: #169 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Johnny Rivers, another largely forgotten artist who shouldn’t be.

re: #173 De Kolta Chair

I hear that. Not just a great singer and dynamic performer, but a pretty darn good producer as well. His live albums recorded at the Whiskey A-Go-Go are brilliant.

…

If someone can’t love his cover of this song, they are beyond redemption ;-P

179 De Kolta Chair  Feb 6, 2015 9:54:16pm

Speaking of old skool, here’s Freddy Fender singing my favorite ranchero to an audience of befuddled Dutch people.

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R.I.P. Baldemar Garza Huerta

180 goddamnedfrank  Feb 6, 2015 10:10:40pm
Republican Sends Out Questionnaire So Repugnant, Not A Single Judicial Candidate Would Answer It

A newly elected 29-year-old South Carolina state representative is making waves just days after he was sworn into office. In South Carolina, judges are elected by the legislature, so Jonathon Hill decided he’d send out a thirty question survey to every candidate currently campaigning for a judgeship, to get to know them better. The problem is Rep. Hill’s questions were so blatantly illegal, he’s now defending himself against complaints his questions violated the U.S. Constitution.

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To their credit, not a single candidate responded to Rep. Hill. Instead, the Judicial Merit Selection Commission, which oversees next week’s election, contacted Rep. Hill to inform him that asking prospective judges specific questions about their spiritual beliefs amounts to a “religious test,” which is explicitly forbidden by the U.S. Constitution, which holds:

“no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

Additionally, they told Rep. Hill that the Code of Judicial Conduct bans judges from answering many of his questions because doing so would be tantamount to a promise to a decide future cases a certain way.

181 Jenner7  Feb 6, 2015 10:11:31pm

Video

Leaving you with this….

Night.

182 teleskiguy  Feb 6, 2015 10:16:32pm

This is a snapshot of my Instagram feed approximately a year ago. Somehow a few sweet skiing shots just had to have gross food bookends. I’m an American, after all! D’fuck!

183 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Feb 6, 2015 10:16:55pm

re: #180 goddamnedfrank

Laser-like focus on jobs.

184 BeachDem  Feb 6, 2015 10:25:25pm

re: #180 goddamnedfrank

The best response was from the minority leader:

House Minority Leader Todd Rutherford, D-Richland, also was critical of Hill’s survey…

But, Rutherford acknowledged, Hill only has been a lawmaker three weeks. “Bless his heart.”

thestate.com

Read more here: thestate.com

185 De Kolta Chair  Feb 6, 2015 10:25:56pm

‘Night cats and kittens

Cartoon by Emily Flake
186 TedStriker  Feb 6, 2015 10:28:55pm

re: #178 TedStriker

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re: #184 BeachDem

The best response was from the minority leader:

House Minority Leader Todd Rutherford, D-Richland, also was critical of Hill’s survey…

But, Rutherford acknowledged, Hill only has been a lawmaker three weeks. “Bless his heart.”

thestate.com

Read more here: thestate.com

For those who don’t speak Southern, “bless his heart” roughly translates into “that person is a fucking moron”.

187 BeachDem  Feb 6, 2015 10:31:16pm

re: #186 TedStriker

For those who don’t speak Southern, “bless his heart” translates into “what a fucking moron”.

And if you need further proof that we grow (and elect) them dumb here in SC:

My parents chose home education from the very beginning. I am grateful for this upbringing, and next to God, my parents are responsible for who I am today. I believe that homeschooling is one of the best ways to develop creativity, entrepreneurism, thoughtfulness, and character in young people.

As for college, I was too focused on teaching myself how to build, network, and program computers and websites to attend…

jonathonhill.com

188 De Kolta Chair  Feb 6, 2015 10:40:02pm

re: #187 BeachDem

I have a few progressively-minded friends in upstate NY who homeschooled their kids, at least up to high school, all of whom are above normal as Garrison Keillor would say. But then again, their parents were smart to begin with, which might have made a big difference. Those kids are all doing well in college now, no doubt planning to take over the world with their hippy liberal arts degrees and elective classes in kilning love beads. //

189 teleskiguy  Feb 6, 2015 10:49:22pm

Got this in the mail today. It’s my X-Mas present from my sister. I guess the shipping and handling got all screwed up. No matter, I have a new winter hat and it represents the best damn touring rock ‘n’ roll band out there!

190 Single-handed sailor  Feb 6, 2015 10:49:44pm

Some Hurdy Gurdy

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191 Mattand  Feb 6, 2015 11:02:37pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

This is me, turning off the Bill Maher show for the very last time.

*click*

C’mon in, the water’s fine.

I started listening to the podcast version of the show (soundtrack, essentially) a few years back. This was around the time I started getting hip to the anti-vax movement in the US.

Once Maher’s alt med lunacy became apparent (hand washing wiped out polio, not vaccines), I stopped listening. After about 2 years or so, I picked it up again. Maher seemed to have dialed back the Jenny McCarthy crap.

I bailed for good back in October, right after Ben Affleck called him out for his “I’m not saying ALL Muslims are murderers, just all of them” bigotry. So I’ve been fortunate in that I’ve missed all of the anti-vax nonsense.

What’s even more ridiculous is that Maher actually is a supporter of the HPV fax. “What?!??!”, I can hear you saying. “Surely, Matt, what manner of reality warping has brought this nigh unthinkable proclamation to materialize??”

Glad you asked. He’d never admit it, but a lot of conservatives are against the HPV vax because it turn young girls into slatternly sex fiends, or some idiocy like that. That’s the only reason Maher approves of that shot.

If conservatives hated the straight-up flu shot like that, Maher would be traveling from drug store to drug store nationwide, telling people they’re fucking idiots if they don’t get their flu shots now. As opposed to his current line of thought.

I just try to chalk it up that everyone has their faults, but what upsets me is that faults like these result in measles epidemics at Disneyland.

192 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 6, 2015 11:06:37pm

And just to remind ourselves that things can be crazy without being hateful crazy like today:

Ogden’s Nut Gone Flake

193 Mattand  Feb 6, 2015 11:07:52pm

re: #185 De Kolta Chair

‘Night cats and kittens

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The problem with that cartoon is the punchline/caption isn’t clear enough that the kid’s parents didn’t get him his shot. Should read:

If you connect the measles, it says “My parents are anti-vax idiots.”

Completely nit-picking, but some kids who are getting the measles can’t get the vax for legitimate medical reasons. In theory, that kid in the cartoon could be one of them.

Trust me on this; I’ve screwed up enough captions to know of what I speak.

194 teleskiguy  Feb 6, 2015 11:09:44pm

re: #189 teleskiguy

My sister opened a Twitter account before I did. Her account is perpetually protected. She’s a gamer, she’s a cosplayer, she’s an overall nerd. I haven’t asked but I’m sure she keeps her Twitter on lockdown because of, well, Twitter’s explicit allowance of hate speech, abuse, harassment and doxxing.

195 goddamnedfrank  Feb 6, 2015 11:12:35pm

The graphic Chuck is using on his Williams hit pieces is such an immature grotesque pathetic technical mess. We get it dude, you hate women, gotta attack the guy’s daughter and try to slut shame her even though she has absolutely nothing to do with the story.

196 Jayleia  Feb 6, 2015 11:16:11pm

So, was reading some Honor Harrington stuff…and suddenly I got an epiphany.

Chuck is (Pavel Young+Cordelia Ransom)-Competence

197 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 6, 2015 11:59:06pm

Jenny McCarthy’s son reports her to the police for texting and driving.

“Of course I text and drive”—so she responds by throwing his phone—not hers—out of the car window.

She texts and drives with him in the car but won’t get him vaccinated. Way to prioritize risk there, Jenny!

198 Dr Lizardo  Feb 7, 2015 12:10:42am

re: #111 bratwurst

The great medical expert Bill Maher is giving a lecture on immunology and health tonight. Switching to prison documentaries on MSNBC…more scientifically sound.

You’d find more scientific soundness watching Overlords Of The UFO’s on YouTube than in pretty much anything Maher has to say regarding vaccines.

Morning, Lizards.

199 #FergusonFireside  Feb 7, 2015 12:58:16am

Hey late nighter LGFers. I’ve been off since about 11. just finally to the point of relax.

200 Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2015 1:23:26am
201 #FergusonFireside  Feb 7, 2015 1:48:38am
202 Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2015 1:58:36am

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

The graphic Chuck is using on his Williams hit pieces is such an immature grotesque pathetic technical mess. We get it dude, you hate women, gotta attack the guy’s daughter and try to slut shame her even though she has absolutely nothing to do with the story.

He’s a first class scum ball, all right.

203 Kragar  Feb 7, 2015 2:01:17am

re: #201 #FergusonFireside

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That thing on the right is horrifying.

204 goddamnedfrank  Feb 7, 2015 2:04:47am

re: #200 Charles Johnson

Despite overwhelming evidence he hasn’t retracted:

The Booker address story
The Menendez hooker story
The MS election lie he paid Stevie Fielder to tell
The ridiculous pixel size story

So I don’t expect him to ever admit that there was measurable flooding at the RC, no matter how well documented it was.

I actually have some significant doubts about Williams’ story, detailed in my #176. However I have no doubts at all that the area around the RC did in fact flood.

205 Kragar  Feb 7, 2015 2:07:20am
206 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 7, 2015 2:11:40am

I summarized the info about the flooding of the hotel and of Canal Street.

littlegreenfootballs.com

207 Jayleia  Feb 7, 2015 2:43:09am

re: #198 Dr Lizardo

Dammit, Overlords of the UFO sounds awesome…in the “That’s not even PSEUDO-science!” way.

I’m reading a hilarious 14 page review of it at the Agony Booth

208 Bubblehead II  Feb 7, 2015 2:55:49am

re: #187 BeachDem

And if you need further proof that we grow (and elect) them dumb here in SC:

My parents chose home education from the very beginning. I am grateful for this upbringing, and next to God, my parents are responsible for who I am today. I believe that homeschooling is one of the best ways to develop creativity, entrepreneurism, thoughtfulness, and character in young people.

As for college, I was too focused on teaching myself how to build, network, and program computers and websites to attend…

jonathonhill.com

Shorter version - My SAT scores were so low even the community college refuse to accept me.

209 freetoken  Feb 7, 2015 3:51:58am

MP3 Audio

210 Dr Lizardo  Feb 7, 2015 4:10:37am

re: #207 Jayleia

Dammit, Overlords of the UFO sounds awesome…in the “That’s not even PSEUDO-science!” way.

I’m reading a hilarious 14 page review of it at the Agony Booth

Enjoy - it’s glorious 70’s woo:

…

211 Dr Lizardo  Feb 7, 2015 4:17:07am

re: #207 Jayleia

Dammit, Overlords of the UFO sounds awesome…in the “That’s not even PSEUDO-science!” way.

I’m reading a hilarious 14 page review of it at the Agony Booth

And here’s some more wonderful, wonderful woo:

…

212 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 7, 2015 4:26:57am

re: #195 goddamnedfrank

The graphic Chuck is using on his Williams hit pieces is such an immature grotesque pathetic technical mess. We get it dude, you hate women, gotta attack the guy’s daughter and try to slut shame her even though she has absolutely nothing to do with the story.

I just want to say this about that.

NOTE: Unlike the parody site GotNewsDotCom, GotNwes feels there is no real purpose in showing some dude with his face up in some chick’s ass*. We run a clean establishment here.

“RPG up the tail?” Really?

————
UPDATE: It has come to our attention that the chick is Brian Williams’ daughter, Allison, who plays in the TV series, Girls. Our refusal to stoop to such juvenile levels remains.

213 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 7, 2015 4:53:13am

UpChuck seems surprised that TV networks have staff in hand to check reporters’ facts.

Hahahahahaha!
215 [deleted]  Feb 7, 2015 5:52:58am
216 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 7, 2015 5:53:47am

re: #215 clickera

Spam.

217 lawhawk  Feb 7, 2015 6:10:01am

So, the bad week for Gov. Christie continues. His former top guy at the Port Authority is being investigated for flights he took between NYC and his home in SC. Apparently, United Airlines started service between Newark and Columbia SC. That also happens to be near where Sampson has a weekend home. And Christie appointee, Jamie Fox, who is the State Transportation Commissioner, worked as a lobbyist for, you guessed it, United Airlines.

United canceled the route several days after Sampson resigned. Records show that the flights were only about half full. Hmmmm..

And in a story about how a NJ legislator is trying to curb the religious exemption for vaccines, there’s a nugget about how the Department of Health expanded the exemption after Christie came into office.

New Jersey used to require parents to explain how a vaccine conflicts with their religious beliefs. In 2010, however, shortly after Christie first took office, the Health Department established a new rule that said authorities can’t question parents who declare their objection to a vaccine on religious grounds — as long as their exemption request uses the word “religious” or “religion.” The number of exemptions more than doubled over the next three years.

“If you make a note and don’t want a vaccine, you’re out,” Conaway said. “Religious exemptions should be narrow. The wider it is, the more illness you will have,” he said.

Conaway said he expects to discuss tightening the regulations soon with state Health Commissioner Mary E. O’Dowd.

It might, in part, explain why Christie got so cranky about the vaccine questions.

I applaud the legislator’s attempt to curb the exemptions, but he doesn’t go nearly far enough. It should be eliminated entirely.

218 b.d.  Feb 7, 2015 6:11:51am

Some lies about Katrina the wingnuts embrace, masturbate too and cherish even though they are obviously a larger heap of BS than Williams’:

… Kyle’s [American Sniper Chris Kyle] claim that the U.S. government sent him into New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. They perched him atop the Superdome, he said, and it was from there that he picked off 30 looters in the city.

nola.com

219 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 7, 2015 6:13:21am

re: #217 lawhawk

Religious exemptions should be narrow

Agreed. 0 is narrow enough.

220 b.d.  Feb 7, 2015 6:14:32am

re: #219 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Agreed. 0 is narrow enough.

If you can put this camel through this needle you get an exemption.

//

221 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 7, 2015 6:24:18am

re: #218 b.d.

Some lies about Katrina the wingnuts embrace, masturbate too and cherish even though they are obviously a larger heap of BS than Williams’:

nola.com

Bushco’s Katrina response was a comprehensive, televised FAIL. It’s necessary for conservatives to paper it over with lies and uncertainty.

222 darthstar  Feb 7, 2015 6:26:57am
223 lawhawk  Feb 7, 2015 6:28:19am
224 PhillyPretzel  Feb 7, 2015 6:39:17am

re: #223 lawhawk

Another reason to inoculate that the wingnuts will ignore.

225 Great White Snark  Feb 7, 2015 6:43:36am

re: #221 Higgs Boson’s Mate

What gets me is that a lot like California’s fated “big one” a NOLA hurricane had been the subject of much study, documentaries and let’s call it a couple decades to prepare as weather/hurricane science advanced.

Lot’s of data, lots of time but little money spent. Or what was spent was corrupted. As a %, one of the most successful urban evacuations ever. And still wildly inadequate. Coast Guard rescued many thousands.

Frankly, residences that are below sea level and coastal should be illegal. Planet wide. Is that gonna happen? Nope. Not even in NOLA or Californias Venice.

226 Great White Snark  Feb 7, 2015 6:50:10am

re: #224 PhillyPretzel

I’m still shaking my head over those “pox parties”. Withhold vaccination then infect on purpose? Outta be a felony.

227 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 7, 2015 6:54:30am

re: #224 PhillyPretzel

Another reason to inoculate that the wingnuts will ignore.

Remember when we were being ironic when we suggested that Obama should insist that people not stick their tongues in light sockets? I am becoming convinced that sufferers of conservatism are one those dead end branches of human evolution.

228 Dr. Matt  Feb 7, 2015 7:07:37am
229 darthstar  Feb 7, 2015 7:13:01am

This is too fucking cool. Charles, you should put this up as a fp video.

230 Great White Snark  Feb 7, 2015 7:17:30am

BTW to point out an on the ground reality about disaster preparedness-Kudos to LA Mayor Garcetti for pushing a wood frame residence earthquake upgrades. Conceptually that apartment renters would share or bear the full cost which can be very high. Discussions continue but where else does money come from in an apartment building? The property value often grows but that just on paper until you sell. Home owners bear the full cost.

.

A Los Angeles City Council member wants to allow owners who seismically retrofit apartment buildings to pass on the costs to tenants.

Councilman Bernard C. Parks said he wants the city to explore exempting these apartment owners from the city’s rent-control law as part of a larger effort by city officials to strengthen thousands of buildings vulnerable to collapse during a major earthquake.

Under existing laws, only 50% of the cost of major apartment rehabilitation projects can be passed through to tenants, Parks said. Parks wants city staff to evaluate passing through all the costs to tenants but do it “over a reasonable period of time.”

This having been said, either we spend now or FEMA spends later. Heres a crazy idea-If FEMA or the Feds can help build a levee, why not help reinforce high density dwellings in part? We don’t get a couple days warning for a quake. The new warning system will give us a good fraction of a minute.

231 ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2015 7:20:42am

Good morning Lizards.

I see some mentions of Neil Diamond from last night. I think he is a great songwriter, and many times some of the versions other artists are pretty good too. Like this. (I needed something mellow to cover over the foul stench of Chuck C. Johnson still lingering)

…

232 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 7, 2015 7:27:16am

re: #230 Great White Snark

Good idea. The GOP Congress has an innovative, cost cutting initiative for comprehensive disaster response: in the event of a natural disaster every cell phone in the effected area will receive a text message reading “Sux 2 b u.”

233 Great White Snark  Feb 7, 2015 7:27:56am

Wish me luck. Today I’ll be working on a fire damaged air pollution control machine. That’s no biggie. The fact we are taking apart the top of the 22 foot tower/gas column from a lift is a personal first. I’m fine in airplanes and on roofs. But stuff like scaffoldings are hard for me.

If you shave your neck do ya still feel the hairs trying to stand up?
//

234 PhillyPretzel  Feb 7, 2015 7:29:14am

re: #233 Great White Snark

Good luck.

235 ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2015 7:34:12am

re: #233 Great White Snark

Wish me luck. Today I’ll be working on a fire damaged air pollution control machine. That’s no biggie. The fact we are taking apart the top of the 22 foot tower/gas column from a lift is a personal first. I’m fine in airplanes and on roofs. But stuff like scaffoldings are hard for me.

If you shave your neck do ya still feel the hairs trying to stand up?
//

22 feet isn’t too bad. I work off scaffold around my old home I am rehabbing. I’ve been in the 30-40 foot range before.

An old bricklayer dude turned me onto a good method for heights. Climb up there with something to read and something to drink, like the morning paper and your coffee if that is your thing. Hang out for 15 minutes just reading and drinking. Soon you adjust to being up there.

No need to go all-out right away…work your way into being comfortable and acclimated.

236 Dr. Matt  Feb 7, 2015 7:35:28am
237 darthstar  Feb 7, 2015 7:35:52am

re: #235 ObserverArt

22 feet isn’t too bad. I work off scaffold around my old home I am rehabbing. I’ve been in the 30-40 foot range before.

An old bricklayer dude turned me onto a good method for heights. Climb up there with something to read and something to drink, like the morning paper and your coffee if that is your thing. Hang out for 15 minutes just reading and drinking. Soon you adjust to being up there.

No need to go all-out right away…work your way into being comfortable and acclimated.

Will a Playboy and a bottle of booze work?

238 Great White Snark  Feb 7, 2015 7:38:24am

re: #235 ObserverArt

That is a great idea.

239 Great White Snark  Feb 7, 2015 7:40:10am

re: #237 darthstar

Shhhh. Playboy and booze? *short laugh* Hookers and a full bar later. My crew gets the best.
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240 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 7, 2015 7:40:15am

re: #237 darthstar

Will a Playboy and a bottle of booze work?

If your objective is to brighten the day of obituary writers.

241 ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2015 7:40:30am

re: #237 darthstar

Will a Playboy and a bottle of booze work?

Knowing the reputations of some in the construction industry, that may be the standard.

Go slow! /

242 darthstar  Feb 7, 2015 7:41:48am

re: #240 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

If your objective is to brighten the day of obituary writers.

I always wanted to go coming. Paradoxical as that may sound.

243 darthstar  Feb 7, 2015 7:43:07am

Kids these days…they have no respect.

Never mind…that’s obviously a photoshop. Too bad.

244 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 7, 2015 7:45:05am

re: #243 darthstar

Kids these days…they have no respect.

A graffito that was common in India when I was kid was:

Jesus is Coming…

(several blocks worth of distance)

…to become a Hindu.

245 darthstar  Feb 7, 2015 7:47:20am

re: #244 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

A graffito that was common in India when I was kid was:

Jesus is Coming…

(several blocks worth of distance)

…to become a Hindu.

Yeah, my favorite is the billboard that says “God Listens.”

246 ObserverArt  Feb 7, 2015 7:53:20am

Time to get to some work on my old place…later on.

247 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 7:59:47am

Not to bad in my part of the world. Sun is out, most of the snow is still clean.

you?

248 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 8:04:05am

Why is it such a relief to pay bills?

I guess I’m stuck at age 20 —always worrying that I won’t be able to.

249 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 8:07:28am
250 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 8:07:50am

WHERE IS EVERYBODY?????

251 lawhawk  Feb 7, 2015 8:13:52am

re: #229 darthstar

Saw the whole thing, dude. First you were all like “whoa”, and we were like “whoa”, and you were like “whoa…”

252 Romantic Heretic  Feb 7, 2015 8:14:08am

re: #180 goddamnedfrank

Additionally, they told Rep. Hill that the Code of Judicial Conduct bans judges from answering many of his questions because doing so would be tantamount to a promise to a decide future cases a certain way.

I see Representative Hill making that confused face that tells everyone that he doesn’t understand the problem with that.

253 lawhawk  Feb 7, 2015 8:15:20am

re: #245 darthstar

Heresy! Everyone knows God listens to Metallica! And NIN when he’s pissed off (because he knows that if there is a hell, he’ll see you there).

254 Romantic Heretic  Feb 7, 2015 8:24:02am

re: #240 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

If your objective is to brighten the day of obituary writers.

One of my all time faves in this category.

A man named Oliver was murdered and castrated by his wife over the Christmas season. The obituary headline?

She Decked The Halls With Balls Of Ollie!

255 Romantic Heretic  Feb 7, 2015 8:26:18am

re: #253 lawhawk

Heresy! Everyone knows God listens to Metallica! And NIN when he’s pissed off (because he knows that if there is a hell, he’ll see you there).

We don’t ever want Him listening to Drowning Pool.

…

257 b_sharp  Feb 7, 2015 8:30:24am

re: #233 Great White Snark

Wish me luck. Today I’ll be working on a fire damaged air pollution control machine. That’s no biggie. The fact we are taking apart the top of the 22 foot tower/gas column from a lift is a personal first. I’m fine in airplanes and on roofs. But stuff like scaffoldings are hard for me.

If you shave your neck do ya still feel the hairs trying to stand up?
//

The secret in surviving heights like that is - don’t fall.

258 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 8:31:11am

re: #68 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

A comprehensive list of Chuck’s anonymous sources:

- a Cheeto
- a Toots and the Maytals album
- a completely different chicken than the one mentioned in the list of things I trust more than Chuck Johnson
- atmospheric nitrogen
- a coffee stain
- Neil Diamond (BECAUSE THERE’S REALLY NOT ANY OTHER WAY YOU CAN DISAPPOINT US MORE, IS THERE, NEIL?)
- the withered soul of William F Buckley Murray Rothbard, captured in a silver thimble that a duck wears as a hat
- yet another chicken
- a chunk of todalite gneiss
- a piece of paper with the word “anonymous source” written on it
- a Flamin’ Hot Cheeto

Corrected. William F. Buckley repented of the racist things he’d said in the 50’s and publicly admitted he’d been wrong. He also had way too much class to be associated with UpChuck, even as a ‘withered soul’. Rothbard, on the other hand, hung out with militia types and was actively praising them less than a month before the OKC bombing. He had the bad timing and amorality needed to associate with Chuckles.

259 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 8:33:25am

Young elementary aged brother and sister are “arguing” with each other at the grocery store.

Mother: “Mommy does NOT want to hear arguing at the grocery store today!”

Little Boy: “Would tomorrow be ok?”

True story, hubby reporting events of his shopping trip today.

He said that if the Mom’s looks could kill … .

260 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 8:34:10am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

Corrected. William F. Buckley repented of the racist things he’d said in the 50’s and publicly admitted he’d been wrong. He also had way too much class to be associated with UpChuck, even as a ‘withered soul’. Rothbard, on the other hand, hung out with militia types and was actively praising them less than a month before the OKC bombing. He had the bad timing and amorality needed to associate with Chuckles.

As conservative as Buckley was, he was also a pragmatist. He recognized the Whackos for what they were and called them out.

261 Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 7, 2015 8:39:35am

re: #28 b.d.

BREAKING! HURRICANE KATRINA DID NOT SCORE A DIRECT HIT ON NEW ORLEANS AFTER ALL. MUST CREDIT GOATNEWS OR I WILL SUE YOU

“No wealthy white people were harmed during the making of this hurricane”

Hey Chuck, was the Ritz Carlton’s GM also lying?

Well she’s a woman, so… Yeah! //

262 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 8:42:08am

re: #260 FemNaziBitch

As conservative as Buckley was, he was also a pragmatist. He recognized the Whackos for what they were and called them out.

Very true, and his death was a disaster of the first magnitude for the conservative cause, for we now lack anyone with the internal-to-the-movement stature to cast out crazies as effectively as he did.

263 Timothy Watson  Feb 7, 2015 8:42:57am

re: #258 Dark_Falcon

Yet he and his publication continued to support apartheid.

264 Dr. Matt  Feb 7, 2015 8:43:40am

re: #250 FemNaziBitch

WHERE IS EVERYBODY?????

Practicing creeping Sharia Law. Duh

265 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 8:45:28am

How KEWL!!! is this?

266 Eventual Carrion  Feb 7, 2015 8:46:04am

re: #254 Romantic Heretic

One of my all time faves in this category.

A man named Oliver was murdered and castrated by his wife over the Christmas season. The obituary headline?

She Decked The Halls With Balls Of Ollie!

A midget fortuneteller robbed a bank. The headlines read:

Small medium at large!

267 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 8:48:27am

re: #263 Timothy Watson

Yet he and his publication continued to support apartheid.

Until the Soviet threat receded, most conservatives felt that the need to prevent a communist takeover of South Africa outweighed the evil of apartheid, especially given South Africa crucial geographic position and its mineral resources (especially gold). Geopolitics during the Cold War often caused the US to ally with people we didn’t like.

268 Jayleia  Feb 7, 2015 8:48:30am

re: #263 Timothy Watson

And given the number of people who’ve worked there when the editors discovered purely by chance (and the fact that they posted it publically)…I’d say a good portion of the magazine’s staff might be fine with apartheid still…

269 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 8:49:30am

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

Until the Soviet threat receded, most conservatives felt that the need to prevent a communist takeover of South Africa outweighed the evil of apartheid, especially given South Africa crucial geographic position and its mineral resources (especially gold). Geopolitics during the Cold War often caused the US to ally with people we didn’t like.

because equalization of the races under the law is communism …

270 Skip Intro  Feb 7, 2015 8:49:44am
271 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2015 8:50:44am

re: #261 Pawn of the Oppressor

“No wealthy white people were harmed during the making of this hurricane”

Why didn’t those poor black people just get in their Cadillacs and drive away? Look at how these white farmers, with days and days of warning, heavy equipment, and the National Guard to help got through their flood!

272 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 8:51:13am

re: #268 Jayleia

And given the number of people who’ve worked there when the editors discovered purely by chance (and the fact that they posted it publically)…I’d say a good portion of the magazine’s staff might be fine with apartheid still…

I was talking with a friend the other day. She said that White People are being bred out —going the way of the Dodo.

She is not far off —those that think they will be part of the minority of whites who are left definitely are positing for apartheid in this country, IMHO.

273 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2015 8:53:35am

re: #272 FemNaziBitch

I was talking with a friend the other day. She said that White People are being bred out —going the way of the Dodo.

She is not far off —those that think they will be part of the minority of whites who are left definitely are positing for apartheid in this country, IMHO.

Dodos weren’t bred out, though some may have been breaded before they were eaten.
//

274 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 8:55:28am

re: #269 FemNaziBitch

because equalization of the races under the law is communism …

No, because the African National Congress had been a Soviet client. That lead to justified fears that an ANC victory would result in a South African government that was friendly to the Soviet Union and hostile to the United States. And that was simply unacceptable, for the reasons stated in my previous post.

275 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 7, 2015 8:56:26am

re: #273 Blind Frog Belly White

Dodos weren’t bred out, though some may have been breaded before they were eaten.
//

I blame the matchlock.

276 Eventual Carrion  Feb 7, 2015 8:56:39am

I’m thinking of changing professions late in life. I think i’d like to become a professional scientific test subject.

277 Belafon  Feb 7, 2015 8:57:20am

re: #272 FemNaziBitch

I was talking with a friend the other day. She said that White People are being bred out —going the way of the Dodo.

She is not far off —those that think they will be part of the minority of whites who are left definitely are positing for apartheid in this country, IMHO.

Oh no, women will all look like Beyonce.

278 Jayleia  Feb 7, 2015 8:58:29am

re: #272 FemNaziBitch

I really don’t get those people…demographically, no that’s not going to happen for a long time, and even if it happened today, its not relevant.

279 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 8:58:35am

re: #273 Blind Frog Belly White

Dodos weren’t bred out, though some may have been breaded before they were eaten.
//

Indeed, dodos were hunted to extinction, a fate that befell many island birds. A few such species were not even wiped out by humans, but by the cats sailors brought with them.

280 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2015 8:59:23am

re: #274 Dark_Falcon

No, because the African National Congress had been a Soviet client. That lead to justified fears that an ANC victory would result in a South African government that was friendly to the Soviet Union and hostile to the United States. And that was simply unacceptable, for the reasons stated in my previous post.

Which was the cart, and which the horse? How many insurgent movements against oppressive regimes turned to the USSR when the US supported their oppressors?

281 Jayleia  Feb 7, 2015 9:00:11am

re: #274 Dark_Falcon

Perhaps we should have tried allying with people that weren’t complete assholes? Did we EVER try that?

282 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2015 9:00:33am

re: #279 Dark_Falcon

Indeed, dodos were hunted to extinction, a fate that befell many island birds. A few such species were not even wiped out by humans, but by the cats sailors brought with them.

Don’t forget pigs turned loose to forage.

283 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 9:00:59am

re: #275 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I blame the matchlock.

More wheel-locks by that point. More compact and didn’t need a slow-burning cord (called a ‘slow-match’), which was a big danger reduction on a wooden ship.

/history buff

284 Belafon  Feb 7, 2015 9:01:10am

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

Until the Soviet threat receded, most conservatives felt that the need to prevent a communist takeover of South Africa outweighed the evil of apartheid, especially given South Africa crucial geographic position and its mineral resources (especially gold). Geopolitics during the Cold War often caused the US to ally with people we didn’t like.

Hence our problems with Iran, Iraq, south America, etc.

285 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2015 9:01:54am

re: #284 Belafon

Hence our problems with Iran, Iraq, south America, etc.

But hey, at least they didn’t go Communist!
//

286 Dr Lizardo  Feb 7, 2015 9:02:04am

re: #277 Belafon

Oh no, women will all look like Beyonce.

Well, maybe somewhat like this:

I’ve heard that line………..OH NOES, ALL THE WHITE PEOPLEZ WILL BE EXTINCT and it still makes me shake my head. Like their DNA will simply disappear like a fart in the wind or something.

Morons.

287 Timothy Watson  Feb 7, 2015 9:03:21am

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

Until the Soviet threat receded, most conservatives felt that the need to prevent a communist takeover of South Africa outweighed the evil of apartheid, especially given South Africa crucial geographic position and its mineral resources (especially gold). Geopolitics during the Cold War often caused the US to ally with people we didn’t like.

Yep, that’s why we needed to support rape and murder squads in Central America, ones that specifically targeted Americans for murder.

That’s why we needed to support Pinochet, whose government launched a terrorist attack inside the United States.

288 Belafon  Feb 7, 2015 9:03:31am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

Well, maybe somewhat like this:

Embedded Image

I’ve heard that line………..OH NOES, ALL THE WHITE PEOPLEZ WILL BE EXTINCT and it still makes me shake my head. Like their DNA will simply disappear like a fart in the wind or something.

Morons.

If only the moron DNA would disappear.

289 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:04:10am

We really need a Pages category named “WHACKOS”

I seriously had a hard time finding a category. “FUBAR” would also work for this Post.

290 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 9:04:22am

re: #280 Blind Frog Belly White

Which was the cart, and which the horse? How many insurgent movements against oppressive regimes turned to the USSR when the US supported their oppressors?

re: #281 Jayleia

Perhaps we should have tried allying with people that weren’t complete assholes? Did we EVER try that?

We were allied to South Africa through the British. That actually got started during World War II. Back then they were the good guys, sending north armored car squadrons that were vital for the British 8th Army facing the forces of Germany and Italy in Libya and Egypt.

291 b_sharp  Feb 7, 2015 9:04:30am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

Well, maybe somewhat like this:

Embedded Image

I’ve heard that line………..OH NOES, ALL THE WHITE PEOPLEZ WILL BE EXTINCT and it still makes me shake my head. Like their DNA will simply disappear like a fart in the wind or something.

Morons.

Like white folks DNA is different enough & important enough to worry about.

292 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:04:47am

re: #276 Eventual Carrion

I’m thinking of changing professions late in life. I think i’d like to become a professional scientific test subject.

It might be cool to glow …

293 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2015 9:06:25am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

Well, maybe somewhat like this:

[Embedded content]

I’ve heard that line………..OH NOES, ALL THE WHITE PEOPLEZ WILL BE EXTINCT and it still makes me shake my head. Like their DNA will simply disappear like a fart in the wind or something.

Morons.

Because they see anything not lily white as “other”, it doesn’t occur to them that when a black person and a white person have a baby, that baby isn’t black either.

Unless they’re trying to discourage black people from voting for him for President, that is.

294 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 9:06:56am

re: #287 Timothy Watson

Yep, that’s why we needed to support rape and murder squads in Central America, ones that specifically targeted Americans for murder.

That’s why we needed to support Pinochet, whose government launched a terrorist attack inside the United States.

Nitrates and copper, Tim. Chile has lots of both.

Bad days, folks, those were bad days.

295 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2015 9:07:06am

re: #290 Dark_Falcon

We were allied to South Africa through the British. That actually got started during World War II. Back then they were the good guys, sending north armored car squadrons that were vital for the British 8th Army facing the forces of Germany and Italy in Libya and Egypt.

Back then, the USSR were also the good guys, Dark.

296 Mike Lamb  Feb 7, 2015 9:07:42am

re: #279 Dark_Falcon

Indeed, dodos were hunted to extinction, a fate that befell many island birds. A few such species were not even wiped out by humans, but by the cats sailors brought with them.

Ya…that’s pretty much the same thing. Humans didn’t kill off [insert species], it was the [insert invasive species] that wouldn’t have ever been there but for humans.

297 Dr Lizardo  Feb 7, 2015 9:07:42am

re: #291 b_sharp

Like white folks DNA is different enough & important enough to worry about.

A lot of the HELP! HELP! DISAPPEARING WHITE PEOPLEZ! types certainly seem to hold to the view that white folks are a different (and inherently superior) species of humans.

Seems like the same people who I recall being asleep in biology class.

*smh*

298 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 7, 2015 9:08:27am

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

Until the Soviet threat receded, most conservatives felt that the need to prevent a communist takeover of South Africa outweighed the evil of apartheid, especially given South Africa crucial geographic position and its mineral resources (especially gold). Geopolitics during the Cold War often caused the US to ally with people we didn’t like.

And they felt that because they were despicable racist protofascists. It’s really simple.

299 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2015 9:09:11am

re: #292 FemNaziBitch

It might be cool to glow …

I imagine that it might screw up your night vision. But according to a former coworker who worked with transgenic chickens, your eyes would be a lovely - or creepy - green.

300 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:09:12am

re: #278 Jayleia

I really don’t get those people…demographically, no that’s not going to happen for a long time, and even if it happened today, its not relevant.

I don’t get the whole skin color obsession. But then again, I have a really good lay person’s understanding of science.

the White Pigment gene is present in all creatures. We don’t see many all white (not albino) animals in nature because younguns of white pigmentation stand out and are eaten by predators. The only place the white pigment gene is a benefit is in the polar regions —hence, polar bears, artic foxex and the amur tiger (which mostly comes in a lighter orange color, but also white)

WTF, is a white tiger any more or less of a tiger than an orange tiger?

Tigers are tigers, foxes are foxes and humans are humans.

It’s not a matter of the difference between a German Shepherd and a Chihuahua —its just a matter of pigmentation. There has been far too much inter-breeding to say that any one human group is “specialized” like dog breeds are.

301 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:09:50am

re: #280 Blind Frog Belly White

Which was the cart, and which the horse? How many insurgent movements against oppressive regimes turned to the USSR when the US supported their oppressors?

Exactly —people chose whichever superpower would support them.

302 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 9:10:12am

re: #296 Mike Lamb

Ya…that’s pretty much the same thing. Humans didn’t kill off [insert species], it was the [insert invasive species] that wouldn’t have ever been there but for humans.

I’m not arguing people aren’t to blame for what their cats (or pigs or dogs) did and still do. All I was saying is that in some cases the extinction did not come from direct human action. People still should have considered what letting a cat loose on flightless birds was liable to result in.

303 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:10:56am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

Well, maybe somewhat like this:

Embedded Image

I’ve heard that line………..OH NOES, ALL THE WHITE PEOPLEZ WILL BE EXTINCT and it still makes me shake my head. Like their DNA will simply disappear like a fart in the wind or something.

Morons.

All women will be beautiful???

The HORROR!!!

*spit*

304 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2015 9:11:01am

re: #302 Dark_Falcon

I’m not arguing people aren’t to blame for what their cats (or pigs or dogs) did and still do. All I was saying is that in some cases the extinction did not come from direct human action. People still should have considered what letting a cat loose on flightless birds was liable to result in.

People are stupid.

305 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:11:51am

re: #290 Dark_Falcon

We were allied to South Africa through the British. That actually got started during World War II. Back then they were the good guys, sending north armored car squadrons that were vital for the British 8th Army facing the forces of Germany and Italy in Libya and Egypt.

colonizing and oppressing indigenous peoples? Yeah, they were the good guys.

/

306 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:12:41am

re: #293 Blind Frog Belly White

Because they see anything not lily white as “other”, it doesn’t occur to them that when a black person and a white person have a baby, that baby isn’t black either.

Unless they’re trying to discourage black people from voting for him for President, that is.

IN the USA, the baby is legally black.

One drop of black blood makes you black.

Yes, we are that fucked-up.

307 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:13:31am

re: #299 Blind Frog Belly White

I imagine that it might screw up your night vision. But according to a former coworker who worked with transgenic chickens, your eyes would be a lovely - or creepy - green.

ooooohhhhhh!

308 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2015 9:14:44am

re: #300 FemNaziBitch

I don’t get the whole skin color obsession. But then again, I have a really good lay person’s understanding of science.

the White Pigment gene is present in all creatures. We don’t see many all white (not albino) animals in nature because younguns of white pigmentation stand out and are eaten by predators. The only place the white pigment gene is a benefit is in the polar regions —hence, polar bears, artic foxex and the amur tiger (which mostly comes in a lighter orange color, but also white)

WTF, is a white tiger any more or less of a tiger than an orange tiger?

Tigers are tigers, foxes are foxes and humans are humans.

It’s not a matter of the difference between a German Shepherd and a Chihuahua —its just a matter of pigmentation. There has been far too much inter-breeding to say that any one human group is “specialized” like dog breeds are.

There’s not even a white pigment. It’s the absence of other pigment.

Different human populations adapted to their specific environment, but we don’t live outside anymore. We have sunscreen for us pasty folks so we can go to the tropics, and vitamin D supplements so dark skinned people can live in higher latitudes.

309 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 9:15:18am

Oregon governor, 67, facing calls to resign over claims his fiance, 47, ‘used his office to steer business to her consulting firm’

Oregon’s governor is struggling to deal with allegations that his fiancee used his position to land clients for her environmental consulting business
The scandal has posed a threat to the decades-long political career of four-term Democrat John Kitzhaber, Oregon’s longest-serving governor
Fiance Clyvia Hayes is accused using her position to get private consulting work; earning money from companies that wanted to influence the state
Hayes once accepted $5,000 to marry an Ethiopian Immigrant who wanted a green card
Hayes admitted to buying a remote property with the intent to grow marijuana
Asked whether he’s been blinded by love, the Oregon governor said he does not believe he is and he said he still plans to marry Hayes

310 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:16:06am

re: #304 Blind Frog Belly White

People are stupid.

311 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 9:16:30am

re: #306 FemNaziBitch

There are no more ‘one drop’ laws, GGT. Those are gone.

312 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:17:33am

re: #308 Blind Frog Belly White

You are right —I get confused with color theory with the differences between color in light and color in pigment.

In one white is the combination of all colors, in the other it’s the absence.

oy vey

313 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:18:07am

re: #311 Dark_Falcon

There are no more ‘one drop’ laws, GGT. Those are gone.

Tell that to the WHACkos

314 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2015 9:18:17am

re: #305 FemNaziBitch

colonizing and oppressing indigenous peoples? Yeah, they were the good guys.

/

Reminds me of the ‘Pink Bits’ scene in Hope and Glory.

315 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2015 9:19:32am

re: #311 Dark_Falcon

There are no more ‘one drop’ laws, GGT. Those are gone.

The LAWS are gone. The bigotry that led to the laws remains.

316 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 9:19:59am

re: #313 FemNaziBitch

Tell that to the WHACkos

I have done so, I still do so, and I will do so again in the future.

317 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:21:50am

NOW WAIT A MINUTE.

I thought the absence of pigment was albinism?

I don’t have time to research it right now.

I’m too old to remember all this stuff.

318 b_sharp  Feb 7, 2015 9:22:17am

re: #309 Dark_Falcon

Oregon governor, 67, facing calls to resign over claims his fiance, 47, ‘used his office to steer business to her consulting firm’

Dark, nobody claims the left is immune to corruption. The religious right tends to adopt the high road when it comes to morals so every example of corruption from within their ranks shows them and us that being part of the right isn’t a guarantee of moral behaviour.

319 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 9:29:10am

re: #318 b_sharp

Dark, nobody claims the left is immune to corruption. The religious right tends to adopt the high road when it comes to morals so every example of corruption from within their ranks shows them and us that being part of the right isn’t a guarantee of moral behaviour.

The left claims moral superiority as well, they just claim it from different positions.

And watching a Dem get caught gives me a guilt-free ‘go team, go’ moment.

320 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:31:15am

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

The left claims moral superiority as well, they just claim it from different positions.

And watching a Dem get caught gives me a guilt-free ‘go team, go’ moment.

Why do we have to have the us vs. them mentality at all?

321 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 7, 2015 9:31:40am

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

Until the Soviet threat receded, most conservatives felt that the need to prevent a communist takeover of South Africa outweighed the evil of apartheid, especially given South Africa crucial geographic position and its mineral resources (especially gold). Geopolitics during the Cold War often caused the US to ally with people we didn’t like.

Them blacks would turn the country communist.

So…exactly the same claim made about the Civil Rights Movement.

Funny how communism loomed ominously in the form of any liberal movement that complained about brutal labor practices, preposterously corrupt government-international business relations, and the occasional round of car battery/genital torture.

We didn’t “ally” with people we didn’t like. We paid them giant heaps of money to oppress their citizens and engage in back-room deals with US businesses.

322 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 7, 2015 9:33:12am

re: #320 FemNaziBitch

Why do we have to have the us vs. them mentality at all?

I try REALLY HARD not to have an “Us vs Them” mentality, and to respect them as people.

Then my cousin in West Virginia starts liking Breitbart posts on FB….

323 Dark_Falcon  Feb 7, 2015 9:42:58am

re: #320 FemNaziBitch

Why do we have to have the us vs. them mentality at all?

Because I’m human and humans prefer to fight as part as part of a group, and because fighting as part of a faction lets me be less isolated.

324 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2015 9:45:01am

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

Because I’m human and humans prefer to fight as part as part of a group, and because fighting as part of a faction lets me be less isolated.

That is just sad.

I prefer to be part of groups that build.

325 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:54:17am

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

Because I’m human and humans prefer to fight as part as part of a group, and because fighting as part of a faction lets me be less isolated.

I feel sorry for you.

I feel connected with the entire planet.

326 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 7, 2015 9:55:26am

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

I have done so, I still do so, and I will do so again in the future.

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

And watching a Dem get caught gives me a guilt-free ‘go team, go’ moment.

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

Because I’m human and humans prefer to fight as part as part of a group, and because fighting as part of a faction lets me be less isolated.

You can’t stand athwart a mob saying “No!” but also be in charge of polishing pitchforks and hanging out torches and expect people to take your objections as genuine.

327 FemNaziBitch  Feb 7, 2015 9:56:01am

guess it depends on one’s world view.

I see the planet and all that are one it as one big organism.

I am one little quark in that organism.

Even one little quark can contribute.

328 Belafon  Feb 7, 2015 10:10:25am

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

The left claims moral superiority as well, they just claim it from different positions.

And watching a Dem get caught gives me a guilt-free ‘go team, go’ moment.

You can have it whe Republicans resign for “scandals” as quickly as Democrats do.

329 BigPapa  Feb 8, 2015 1:44:01am

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

The left claims moral superiority as well, they just claim it from different positions.

And watching a Dem get caught gives me a guilt-free ‘go team, go’ moment.

Way to own that shit and be proud of it.


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