Scott Walker in London: Q: Do You Believe in Evolution? A: I’m Going to Punt

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Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is making an ass of himself in London today, by answering the question, “Do you believe in evolution?” with “I’m going to punt on that one.”

Walker obviously knows that in Britain, acceptance of the fact of evolution is nearly universal — and Brits know that in the US, rejection of evolution among Republicans is nearly universal. That’s why the question was asked, and that’s why Walker dodged it, because he knew that answering truthfully would make him look like a fool.

As for his comment that “a politician shouldn’t be involved” in this issue, that’s also incredibly disingenuous. Walker is undoubtedly aware that Republican politicians have been heavily involved in trying to sneak creationism into US public schools for decades, and in Wisconsin many taxpayer-funded voucher schools (a very popular Republican idea) are currently teaching young Earth creationism to students.

What a disgrace.

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499 comments
1 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 12:35:13pm

Said that in London, did he?

>Punter (UK slang): a person who uses the services of a prostitute.

2 nines09  Feb 11, 2015 12:35:27pm

I believe in evolution. Why you can witness daily the evolution of the GOP.

3 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 12:35:55pm

re: #1 Decatur Deb

Said that in London, did he?

>Punter (UK slang): a person who uses the services of a prostitute.

Is that a step up or down from wanker?

4 nines09  Feb 11, 2015 12:36:53pm

Walker The Wandering Wanker Wonder.

5 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 12:37:03pm

re: #3 Great White Snark

Is that a step up or down from wanker?

More parsimonious, less sociable.

6 Mattand  Feb 11, 2015 12:38:22pm

Bobby Jindal’s pleas that the GOP not be the party of stupid ring in my head.

The sad thing is this guy has an actual legit shot at being president.

7 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 12:39:11pm

re: #6 Mattand

Bobby Jindal’s pleas that the GOP not be the party of stupid ring in my head.

The sad thing is this guy has an actual legit shot at being president.

All it needs is for us to do nothing.

8 jaunte  Feb 11, 2015 12:39:24pm

Punting on the Isis at Oxford.

9 Internet Tough Guy  Feb 11, 2015 12:39:47pm

“Thanks for the free attack ad.”
-Jeb Bush

10 jaunte  Feb 11, 2015 12:40:56pm

Punting: Holding off the question with a ten-foot pole.

11 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 12:41:17pm

re: #8 jaunte

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Punting on the Isis at Oxford.

A scene from 8.2% of the Inspector Morse episodes.

12 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 12:41:40pm

Geez, if he can’t take a stand on something this straight forward, how can he lead on something actually disputed. How can he bring the nation together if he can’t even agree on science.

Yeah, I know, it’s Walker and the rest of the GOP want to take a pass on science, all while claiming that they’re pro science and pro-America even as they undermine basic research, math, science, and impose religious views inside science classrooms.

Journalists shouldn’t let these politicians dodge answers like this. Or they should highlight them at every opportunity.

13 Mattand  Feb 11, 2015 12:42:52pm

So let’s recap:

• Republican Bobby Jindal goes to Europe and re-iterates the Muslim No-Go Zone myth a full week after even Fox News backed down and retracted it.

• Republican Chris Christie goes to London, and after visiting a pharmaceutical manufacturer, essentially endorses the anti-vax crowd’s desire to start epidemics.

• Republican Scott Walker visits London and declares to the world that basic scientific fact scares him. In Darwin’s home country, no less.

I can’t wait for Jeb Bush to go to London. It’s like the Clown Car passengers are contractually compelled to say something idiotic.

14 stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2015 12:43:20pm

Looking at photos of Scott Walker is always disorienting. His hair always looks like it’s sliding off to one side and his face always says ‘No life lives here’.

I feel so sorry for my sister who moved to eastern WI from Minneapolis because her husband wanted to move back near his home town. She has a 10 year old daughter and absolutely HATES what Walker is doing to WI (and she hates Wisconsinites for electing him the second time).

I’ll be happy when Walker finally gets indicted for corruption.

15 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 12:44:01pm
politician shouldn’t be involved in one way or another.

This from the kind of asshole who wants to teach our kids this creationist bullshit

16 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 12:44:43pm

re: #13 Mattand

So let’s recap:

• Republican Bobby Jindal goes to Europe and re-iterates the Muslim No-Go Zone myth a full week after even Fox News backed down and retracted it.

• Republican Chris Christie goes to London, and after visiting a pharmaceutical manufacturer, essentially endorses the ant-vax crowd’s desire to start epidemics.

• Republican Scott Walker visits London and declares to the world that basic scientific fact scares him. In Darwin’s home country, no less.

I can’t wait for Jeb Bush to go to London. It’s like the Clown Car passengers are contractually compelled to say something idiotic.

Good catch. Don’t forget Mitt’s campaign trip:

theweek.com

17 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 12:45:02pm

When will these Know-Nothing Republicans stop embarrassing this country overseas?

18 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 12:45:53pm

Next Question-

“Do you believe in Gravity?”

Walker-“Hey, I’m not going to fall for that one.”

19 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 12:46:11pm

- 2+2=?

- I’m going to punt on that one.

- Do you believe in geocentrism?

- I’m going to punt on that one as well. That’s a question a politician shouldn’t be involved in one way or another.

20 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 12:46:13pm

re: #18 Great White Snark

Next Question-

“Do you believe in Gravity?”

Walker-“Hey, I’m not going to fall for that one.”

Boo.

21 Varek Raith  Feb 11, 2015 12:47:41pm

Why are these clowns in London anyways???

22 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 12:47:49pm

Scott Walker, forever known now in Britain as “The Punter.”

23 jaunte  Feb 11, 2015 12:47:57pm

re: #13 Mattand

Welcome Back My Friends to the fabulous “I’m No Scientist” Clown Car and Vaudeville!!!

24 Mattand  Feb 11, 2015 12:48:29pm

“Governor Walker, do you think global warming is real?”

“I’m not a scientist, but they’re clearly lies from the pit of Hell. Next.”

25 stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2015 12:49:07pm

re: #13 Mattand

I can’t wait for Jeb Bush to go to London. It’s like the Clown Car passengers are contractually compelled to say something idiotic.

Two words from the British Press: Terry Shiavo. They’ll definitely go there if Bush were to go to London.

26 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 12:49:12pm

re: #21 Varek Raith

Why are these clowns in London anyways???

Lousy Euro-socialist border control.

27 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 12:49:25pm

He’s not saying that it’s aliens, but it’s aliens.

28 team_fukit  Feb 11, 2015 12:49:36pm

Walker also punted on ISIS and Ukraine:

Walker, an evangelical Christian and the 47-year-old son of a Baptist preacher, also declined to answer a series of questions about foreign policy, including how the West should combat the Islamic State group, whether the U.S. should arm Ukrainian rebels and whether it’s wise for Great Britain to remain in the European Union.

“I don’t think it’s polite to respond on policy in the United States when you’re in a foreign country,” Walker said when asked about Islamic State. “That’s certainly something I’ll answer in the future.”

Green Bay Press Gazette

29 WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2015 12:50:30pm

Ugh. I hate people sometimes.

30 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 12:50:44pm

Isn’t Scott Walker’s hagiography, I mean, book, called Not Intimidated, or something like that?

31 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 11, 2015 12:50:49pm

The Goddess Kali killed the dinosaurs.

#teachthecontroversy

32 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 12:51:03pm

Christie, Walker and the rest of the GOP clown car probably think they would be Tories in Britain.

Nope. More like the BNP.

33 Internet Tough Guy  Feb 11, 2015 12:51:46pm

re: #28 team_fukit

He’s going to get eaten alive in the debates.

34 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 12:53:31pm

re:
#28

“I don’t think it’s polite to respond on policy in the United States when you’re in a foreign country,” Walker said when asked about Islamic State. “That’s certainly something I’ll answer in the future.”

OK, well, that’s not really a terrible answer. At least he’s not criticizing the nation or its elected leaders like some conservative politicos have done overseas during Obama’s tenure.

35 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 12:53:33pm

re: #30 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Isn’t Scott Walker’s hagiography, I mean, book, called Not Intimidated, or something like that?

No Intimate Dating. A TPGOP moral guide for bobby-soxers.

36 Mattand  Feb 11, 2015 12:53:43pm

re: #28 team_fukit

he also punted on ISIS and Ukraine:

Green Bay Gazette

I’m actually kind of torn on that response, mainly because it’s showing the absolute barest minimum of respect to the President. Which, unfortunately for the GOP these days, is ground for a parade and medal.

Christie would have been all “Fuck Obama, here’s how may Muslim countries we should be torching.”

37 jaunte  Feb 11, 2015 12:53:55pm

re: #30 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

“Today, we can sound like conservatives and act like conservatives—and still win elections. Those who say we can’t don’t see what I see in Wisconsin and what my fellow governors in states all across America see. We don’t need to change our principles. What we need is more courage.”
amazon.com

38 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 12:53:56pm

re: #33 Internet Tough Guy

He’s going to get eaten alive in the debates.

39 mipatel  Feb 11, 2015 12:54:19pm

you know, they need to stop asking “do you believe in evolution”. i think the word “believe” imparts some sort of spiritual/religious meaning to the question. like, you can’t believe in evolution and believe in a higher power.

the correct question is, “is evolution a fact?”. (and the correct answer is, “yes”)

just my two cents.

40 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 11, 2015 12:55:11pm

re: #24 Mattand

“Governor Walker, do you global warming is real?”

“I’m not a scientist, but they’re clearly lies from the pit of Hell. Next.”

No current GOP pol can answer any differently for a very practical reason: if they admit the reality of GCC - even if they deny our part in causing it - then they’d have to do something about it. Their jobs plan, ACA alternative, and budgets suggest that the results, if any, would not be pretty.

41 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 12:55:23pm

re: #38 Kragar

The 2016 GOP candidate for president will be Blutarsky. Mark my words.

Check that. The GOP candidate will make Blutarsky look good in comparison.

Did the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor? / aw fuckit, he’s on a roll

42 jaunte  Feb 11, 2015 12:55:46pm
“This guy Walker is one of the gutsiest, toughest, strongest, [most] committed guys I have seen in Republican politics in a long time.”
—Rush Limbaugh

Just don’t be rude and ask him science questions.

43 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 12:56:18pm

re:
#38

“Oh boy this is going to be GRAAAAAATE!”

44 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 12:56:47pm

re: #39 mipatel

you know, they need to stop asking “do you believe in evolution”. i think the word “believe” imparts some sort of spiritual/religious meaning to the question. like, you can’t believe in evolution and believe in a higher power.

the correct question is, “is evolution a fact?”. (and the correct answer is, “yes”)

just my two cents.

“Do you believe in Particle Physics?”
“Do you believe in Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle?”
“Do you believe in Avogadro’s Number?”

If you answered yes to any of the above, you’re obviously a godless liberal

45 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 11, 2015 12:58:18pm

re: #44 Kragar

“Do you believe in Particle Physics?”
“Do you believe in Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle?”
“Do you believe in Avogadro’s Number?”

If you answered yes to any of the above, you’re obviously a godless liberal

I believe in avocados without number.

46 WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2015 12:58:46pm

re: #34 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#28

OK, well, that’s not really a terrible answer. At least he’s not criticizing the nation or its elected leaders like some conservative politicos have done overseas during Obama’s tenure.

I honestly expected him to do just that. Honestly, with the GOP clown car as it is, this is totally wimpy on his part. Everybody knows this isn’t about respect for the office of the POTUS. He’s just a freaking wuss and I am betting he loses clown car points from his base.

47 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 12:59:26pm

re:
#42

“This guy Walker is one of the gutsiest, toughest, strongest, [most] committed guys I have seen in Republican politics in a long time.”
—Rush Limbaugh

Anybody noticing a theme here? A party defining itself, visioning itself on hyper-masculine characatures—“gutsy”, “tough”, “strong”. Nothing about “smart” or “can solve problems”, or anything substantive like that.

48 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 12:59:48pm

re: #45 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I believe in avocados without number.

Is Heisenberg’s a weissbier? I believe in that.

49 andres  Feb 11, 2015 1:00:00pm

re: #13 Mattand

So let’s recap:

• Republican Bobby Jindal goes to Europe and re-iterates the Muslim No-Go Zone myth a full week after even Fox News backed down and retracted it.

• Republican Chris Christie goes to London, and after visiting a pharmaceutical manufacturer, essentially endorses the ant-vax crowd’s desire to start epidemics.

• Republican Scott Walker visits London and declares to the world that basic scientific fact scares him. In Darwin’s home country, no less.

I can’t wait for Jeb Bush to go to London. It’s like the Clown Car passengers are contractually compelled to say something idiotic.

What’s up with London that makes the Republicans say the stupidest things? I remember when Romney went there and said something stupid last time around.

50 team_fukit  Feb 11, 2015 1:00:48pm

re: #47 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

but he’s gotta be a “straight shooter”

51 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 1:00:54pm

re:
#37

“We don’t need to solve problems or to even be seen as someone remotely interested in problems, we just need more Courage!”

52 TedStriker  Feb 11, 2015 1:01:13pm

re: #47 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#42

Anybody noticing a theme here? A party defining itself, visioning itself on hyper-masculine characatures—“gutsy”, “tough”, “strong”. Nothing about “smart” or “can solve problems”, or anything substantive like that.

The TPGOP credo: “Might makes right”

53 Mattand  Feb 11, 2015 1:02:58pm

re: #49 andres

What’s up with London that makes the Republicans say the stupidest things? I remember when Romney went there and said something stupid last time around.

I honestly think that they’re used to the kid gloves treatment they get here from the mainstream press; let alone the ass-kissing they get if they’re a Fox News regular.

54 stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2015 1:03:22pm

re: #47 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#42

Anybody noticing a theme here? A party defining itself, visioning itself on hyper-masculine characatures—“gutsy”, “tough”, “strong”. Nothing about “smart” or “can solve problems”, or anything substantive like that.

You should add “manly firmness” to that list. Really.

55 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 1:03:44pm
The Mississippi Klan salutes Alabama’s chief justice Roy Moore, for refusing to bow to the yoke of Federal tyranny. The Feds have no authority over individual States marriage laws. The fudgepackers from Hollywood and all major news networks are in shock that the good people from the heart of Dixie are resisting their Imperialist, Communist Homosexual agenda!
Alabama has a Constitutional amendment, that clearly says marriage is defined as being between a man and a woman. But much as they have since the 2nd war for independence was lost in 1865, the Federal Government by way of it’s foreign masters seems set to push this abomination, on the God fearing people of Alabama. Will they send Jack Booted thugs to enforce it? Remains to be seen, but a simple study of history will show they once burned, destroyed and looted the state of Alabama. Georgia was burned almost to the ground, and in our state, Meridian Mississippi was destroyed by blue bellied sledgehammers in one day.

We call upon all Klansman and White Southern Nationalist to help in the massive protest’s coming, Not by wearing your colors, but by joining in with the Christian community’s protests that are surly coming against tyranical Federal judges. We have made the decision that we don’t want to distract attention away from the issue, as anytime the Klan rides, we are made the issue by the zionist controlled media. Members are encouraged to lend a hand, make signs, recruit etc., but leave any insignia, colors, shirts etc at the house. We want to infiltrate these protests and make sure they are kept running in military fashion and not bullied by the outside agitators.

Let today be the day, that the outside forces that have ruled this nation since the end of the War of Northern Aggression be given notice, “The God fearing White man will no longer stand for your immorality, your Illegal unjust judges and laws. Your attempts to turn us into a third world cesspool must be defeated. Unlike the 1950’s and 60’s we see you clearly for the enemy you are. Until we drive the spear of God and truth through your lying cold black hearts, the Klan will leave the light on for you.

56 Mattand  Feb 11, 2015 1:03:51pm

re: #47 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#42

Anybody noticing a theme here? A party defining itself, visioning itself on hyper-masculine characatures—“gutsy”, “tough”, “strong”. Nothing about “smart” or “can solve problems”, or anything substantive like that.

Party platform by way of beer or pickup truck commercial.

57 WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2015 1:03:58pm

re: #53 Mattand

I honestly think that they’re used to the kid gloves treatment they get here from the mainstream press; let alone the ass-kissing they get if they’re a Fox News regular.

The overseas press doesn’t have to worry about whether they will show up for ratings.

58 stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2015 1:06:17pm

re: #49 andres

What’s up with London that makes the Republicans say the stupidest things? I remember when Romney went there and said something stupid last time around.

The US Press knows how to not ask questions that make Republicans look stupid. In the US, Republicans have to go that extra mile all by themselves.

59 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 1:06:31pm

re: #55 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Excuse me, I have to go check the manufacture date on some lot numbers.

60 TedStriker  Feb 11, 2015 1:07:22pm

re: #48 Decatur Deb

Is Heisenberg’s a weissbier? I believe in that.

I prefer this Heisenberg:

61 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 1:07:45pm
62 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 1:08:23pm

re: #60 TedStriker

Drawing a blank.

63 #FergusonFireside  Feb 11, 2015 1:09:03pm

I can’t @ work, and am glad, because it’s going to be so sad.

64 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 1:09:43pm

re:
#55

The fudgepackers from Hollywood and all major news networks are in shock that the good people from the heart of Dixie are resisting their Imperialist, Communist Homosexual agenda!

“Fudgepackers”. So these are the people who still talk like that.

And the Communist connection. I’ll admit I’d forgotten all about that. Just when you think the Cold War is over we’re reminded about how the Commies are still out to get us but now instead of bombs they’re using the gay agenda. ////

65 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 1:10:13pm

Ok, so let’s give Walker a pass on the evolution question. [not really, but follow me here]

How about this followup then:

Why is Walker cutting $300 million from the University of Wisconsin budget, while agreeing to a $250 million assist to the billionaire owners of a pro sports team to build a new stadium that they could build with their pocket change? Seems that his priorities isn’t educating Wisconsinites, but rather larding the pockets of rich folks.

Mind you, the governor thinks that cutting the budget gives more autonomy to the university system, even though it means that they’ll have to raise tuition even further to cover costs, and that reduces the number of people who can actually afford to attend.

Oh, and the stadium deal rests upon some assumptions about tax revenues, that if the GOP holds to form, will fall short, leaving taxpayers holding the bag once again.

But proffer a plan to build mass transit and they’ll rail against any expenditure, no matter how useful it would be to the public.

66 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 1:10:38pm

re:
#5

But much as they have since the 2nd war for independence was lost in 1865,

Wellllll, isn’t that special?

67 Mattand  Feb 11, 2015 1:10:38pm

re: #60 TedStriker

I prefer this Heisenberg:

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68 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 1:11:26pm

re: #61 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And his gun was not immediately taken away.

69 Dark_Falcon  Feb 11, 2015 1:11:56pm

My time here’s short because I’m on break at work, but I’d have to make the point that for Scott Walker answering this question was a no-win scenario. To oppose evolution would have exposed him to being called a fool while to support it would annoy the support of religious conservatives whose support is needed to get the Republican nomination. Thus, punting was the smart play.

Moreover, asking about evolution in American politics today is less about science and more about factional identification. “Do you believe in evolution?” really means “Do you believe in a particular worldview?”

I do believe in evolution, btw. But in politics, matters relating to evolution are a strange game and Scott Walker made the only logical move by refusing to play.

70 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 1:13:03pm

re: #55 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

When the Klan shows up to support your cause, it’s time to rethink your own support of it.

71 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 1:13:14pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

This fully characterizes your party.

72 stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2015 1:13:59pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

‘Yay team.’

73 TedStriker  Feb 11, 2015 1:14:33pm

re: #62 Decatur Deb

Drawing a blank.

The incomparable Bryan Cranston as Walter White, aka “Heisenberg”, from Breaking Bad.

74 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 1:15:00pm

re: #71 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

This fully characterizes your party.

I’ve come to the conclusion that for some people, it is less about the country and the people in it and more about their team beating the other team.

Which is shitty for the rest of us who get to live in the country, but there’s the breaks.

75 WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2015 1:16:15pm

re: #64 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Better yet,

The Mississippi Klan salutes Alabama’s chief justice Roy Moore, for refusing to bow to the yoke of Federal tyranny. The Feds have no authority over individual States marriage laws. The fudgepackers from Hollywood and all major news networks are in shock that the good people from the heart of Dixie are resisting their Imperialist, Communist Homosexual agenda!

Isn’t the Klan all about Imperialism? I mean they are the Imperial Ku Klux Klan. They have Imperial Wizards, Imperial Exchequers (treasurer) and Imperial Scribes and all kinds of other Imperial bullshit.

Give me a freaking break.

76 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 1:16:23pm

re: #68 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

And his gun was not immediately taken away.

A quote from his wife’s attorney:

“It has nothing to do with terrorism. It has nothing to do with anything but the mundane issue of this man being frustrated day in and day out and not being able to park where he wanted to park,” said attorney Rob Maitland. “These victims were there at the wrong time and wrong place.”

Maitland said in his opinion the case highlights the importance of access to mental health care.

Three people shot in their own apartment, in the head, and they were there at the wrong time and wrong place. Right.

77 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 1:16:42pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

My time here’s short because I’m on break at work, but I’d have to make the point that for Scott Walker answering this question was a no-win scenario. To oppose evolution would have exposed him to being called a fool while to support it would annoy the support of religious conservatives whose support is needed to get the Republican nomination. Thus, punting was the smart play.

Moreover, asking about evolution in American politics today is less about science and more about factional identification. “Do you believe in evolution?” really means “Do you believe in a particular worldview?”

I do believe in evolution, btw. But in politics, matters relating to evolution are a strange game and Scott Walker made the only logical move by refusing to play.

This is the most frightening thing about the GOP - unless you’re either a fool or willing to lie about being a fool, you can’t get the nomination.

78 Dark_Falcon  Feb 11, 2015 1:17:43pm

re: #72 stpaulbear

‘Yay team.’

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

79 Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2015 1:17:46pm

re: #73 TedStriker

Canadian Breaking Bad

80 Mattand  Feb 11, 2015 1:18:43pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

My time here’s short because I’m on break at work, but I’d have to make the point that for Scott Walker answering this question was a no-win scenario. To oppose evolution would have exposed him to being called a fool while to support it would annoy the support of religious conservatives whose support is needed to get the Republican nomination. Thus, punting was the smart play.

Moreover, asking about evolution in American politics today is less about science and more about factional identification. “Do you believe in evolution?” really means “Do you believe in a particular worldview?”

I do believe in evolution, btw. But in politics, matters relating to evolution are a strange game and Scott Walker made the only logical move by refusing to play.

It’s only a losing proposition if you’ve staked your career with a political party that treats things like science fact and reality as optional.

You know what the difference between Walker denying evolution and denying things like gravity, or if the sky is blue? Nothing.

81 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 1:19:03pm

re: #76 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s why nobody likes lawyers.

82 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 1:20:06pm

Speaking of lawyers:

President Barack Obama “did a terrible disservice” to European Jews by calling the January murders at a kosher deli in Paris a random offshoot of the al-Qaida-inspired Charlie Hebdo massacre, and his spokesman compounded the error by insisting the president was right, says noted lawyer and author Alan Dershowitz.

- Newsmax

83 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 1:20:20pm

re: #76 klys (maker of Silmarils)

A quote from his wife’s attorney:

Three people shot in their own apartment, in the head, and they were there at the wrong time and wrong place. Right.

So—his lawyer is building case for mental impairment. i see.

i suppose it was paralegal school that drove Hicks psycho? Yes, this rage-aholic was attending school FT. Too bad he didn’t find a legal solution for the parking problem.

84 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 1:20:25pm

If the people pushing for creationism to be taught in public schools were Muslim instead of Christian, the GOP would be completely against it.

85 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 1:20:40pm

re: #75 WhatEVs

Better yet,

Isn’t the Klan all about Imperialism? I mean they are the Imperial Ku Klux Klan. They have Imperial Wizards, Imperial Exchequers (treasurer) and Imperial Scribes and all kinds of other Imperial bullshit.

Give me a freaking break.

The people of Alabama are not going to resist shit, in any meaningful way. Even here, having the Klan tell you they are going to ‘infiltrate’ your free-speech demonstrations is the kiss of death for them.

86 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 1:20:59pm

re: #73 TedStriker

The incomparable Bryan Cranston as Walter White, aka “Heisenberg”, from Breaking Bad.

Actually, that’s Malcolm’s dad.

…

87 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 1:24:53pm
88 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 1:24:57pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

I would say it is important to them because it forms one of the cornerstones of their religious faith. Which is fine, that’s their right.

What isn’t their right is to push for disregarding scientific fact in order to have it taught in schools, including to children who are not of that religious faith.

I don’t really give two shits whether a politician believes in evolution or not; I do care if they’re going to bend backwards and court people who want their version of religion shoved into schools with no regard for actual science, especially if the price of that support ends up being allowing folks their way on this.

But go team, right?

89 jaunte  Feb 11, 2015 1:26:11pm

re: #88 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What isn’t their right is to push for disregarding scientific fact in order to have it taught in schools, including to children who are not of that religious faith.

This, exactly.

90 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 1:26:31pm

re: #87 lawhawk

Reminds me of what the horrible douchecanoe Fecke said after the CH shooting:

Sometimes progressives and regressives can be so alike.

91 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 11, 2015 1:26:33pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

Because their worldview is based upon being told by their pastors/priests/selected authority figures that the book their authority is based on is absolute, not to be questioned, and to be literally interpreted as the figures say it should be. And part of this passed on worldview is that *they* are the select and are therefore better than the *other* people.

92 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 1:26:46pm

re: #68 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

And his gun was not immediately taken away.

Of course not. He needed it. He had dangerous Muslims living right next door.

93 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 1:27:03pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

They, for the most part, think the bible is all they need to know about “creation”, beginning with the first chapter, first verse of Genesis: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.”

Now, could someone tell me how—if things were as described, such as the earth, “formless and empty” and no description of what kind of “deep”, where did the “water” come from and where was it?

94 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 1:27:30pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

Because they value certainty over truth. In discussions of Creation vs Evolution you hear this ALL THE FUCKING TIME! “Science keeps changing its mind! * I’ll stick with the Bible! It doesn’t change!!!”

Some people, even otherwise very intelligent people, cannot handle the uncertainty of reality. These same people tend to insist on watershed moments, like the moment of fertilization making a ovum into a baby; they also tend to insist on Either/Or situations - “Either you’re with us, Or you’re with the terr’rists”; Either you believe every word of the Bible is the inerrant Word of God, or you’re a godless atheist.

They don’t think this way because they’re backwards rubes. They’re backwards rubes because they think this way.

* No, really, it doesn’t. That’s the whole point. “Science” didn’t believe in Phlogiston. It was a popular hypothesis because it explained all the observations right up until it didn’t, and then it was discarded.

95 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 1:29:07pm

re: #84 klys (maker of Silmarils)

If the people pushing for creationism to be taught in public schools were Muslim instead of anything but Christian, the GOP would be completely against it.

FTFY. Try to get the GOP to accept teaching Raven stories.

96 mr.fusion  Feb 11, 2015 1:29:32pm

It’s not even about whether or not creationism is taught in school. Whether or not the sky is blue has no bearing on public policy, but there is now way in hell someone who says the sky is green should be in public office.

It’s really just a general question about intelligence. And it’s not that hard to answer

97 team_fukit  Feb 11, 2015 1:30:03pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

I think for Christian leaders it’s because Creationism supports the authority of a divine reality and extends that authority to leaders over believers… because the next thing they say after “The world has a Creator” is “Wanna meet him? Because I know a guy!”

For followers, Creationism supports the idea that everything is in order as it is supposed to be and comforts them.

Jewish and Muslim creationists may do it for similar reasons, but the agendas of those Creationist groups seem to be more about the power of inherited traditions instead of trying to “debunk” evil-ution.

98 jaunte  Feb 11, 2015 1:30:29pm

re: #95 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, Raven creation stories are just silly superstition.

99 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 1:30:42pm

re: #96 mr.fusion

It’s not even about whether or not creationism is taught in school. Whether or not the sky is blue has no bearing on public policy, but there is now way in hell someone who says the sky is green should be in public office.

It’s really just a general question about intelligence. And it’s not that hard to answer

But if he answers that question correctly (according to science), then the Republican team loses, and that’s a horrible fate.

///

100 EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2015 1:31:46pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

My time here’s short because I’m on break at work, but I’d have to make the point that for Scott Walker answering this question was a no-win scenario. To oppose evolution would have exposed him to being called a fool while to support it would annoy the support of religious conservatives whose support is needed to get the Republican nomination. Thus, punting was the smart play.

Moreover, asking about evolution in American politics today is less about science and more about factional identification. “Do you believe in evolution?” really means “Do you believe in a particular worldview?”

I do believe in evolution, btw. But in politics, matters relating to evolution are a strange game and Scott Walker made the only logical move by refusing to play.

Missing from this analysis (as always) is any indication that you think the aggressive ignorance and stupidity of the GOP base is a severe problem. A problem that one would think has risen to the point of justifiably questioning party loyalty for anyone who professes to oppose the backwardness of the GOP base.

101 Ace-o-aces  Feb 11, 2015 1:34:58pm
102 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 1:35:51pm
103 EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2015 1:36:09pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

Creationism has become a badge of the conservative movement because “If you can make someone believe absurdities, you can make them commit atrocities” is a guiding principle of US conservatism these days.

It also pisses off liberals, which is another foundation of US conservatism.

For clarity, I have no objection at all to any creation story one might choose to believe in. My objections are entirely focused on creationism as a political movement, intending to get it into education.

104 Timothy Watson  Feb 11, 2015 1:36:48pm

re: #101 Ace-o-aces

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Has she been charged for perjury before Congress yet?

105 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 1:37:05pm

re:
#55

Your attempts to turn us into a third world cesspool must be defeated. Unlike the 1950’s and 60’s we see you clearly for the enemy you are.

What is this moran saying about the 1950’s and 1960’s?

106 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 1:37:36pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

Moreover, asking about evolution in American politics today is less about science and more about factional identification. “Do you believe in evolution?” really means “Do you believe in a particular worldview?”

Bullshit. I’ve heard again and again how Evolution is a worldview, that if I ‘believe in’ Evolution, I cannot object to things like rape or slavery, because according to ‘The Evolutionary Worldview”, that’s all just survival of the fittest.

It’s horseshit. It’s an attempt to reduce one of the best-supported scientific Theories to a religion, so that it’s on an equal footing with religious belief, simultaneously raising the religious belief to the level of scientific Theory (defined as we in Science define ‘theory’, not the popular definition). It is done to create a dichotomy where none exists.

107 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 11, 2015 1:37:43pm

A man said to the universe:
“Sir I exist!”
“However,” replied the universe,
“The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.”
- Stephen Crane

108 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 1:40:24pm

re:
#102

The vocal critic [Vitter] of Congress’s employer healthcare subsidy claimed Wednesday that Capitol Hill administrators ran afoul of ethics rules by classifying Congress as a “small business”

So the Christian conservative married dude caught in some kind of kinky sex scam says what abou ethics?

109 Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2015 1:40:59pm
110 EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2015 1:42:25pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

…

Moreover, asking about evolution in American politics today is less about science and more about factional identification. “Do you believe in evolution?” really means “Do you believe in a particular worldview?”

…

I missed this doozy on the first reading. You are in fact completely correct here.

The competing world views are secular humanism (at least as applied to public policy) and theocracy (i.e., religion applied to public policy).

One world view is correct and the other is as wrong as it is possible to be.

111 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 1:43:45pm

re: #105 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#55

What is this moran saying about the 1950’s and 1960’s?

That they, the Klan, underestimated the power of the scallywags, carpetbaggers, and outside agitators. Thus they killed too few of us.

112 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 11, 2015 1:43:48pm

re: #105 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#55

Your attempts to turn us into a third world cesspool must be defeated. Unlike the 1950’s and 60’s we see you clearly for the enemy you are.

What is this moran saying about the 1950’s and 1960’s?

We want the honor of turning it into a third world cesspool ourselves! Don’t try to take that from us!

113 Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2015 1:44:16pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

I can’t even.

114 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 1:44:53pm

re: #106 Blind Frog Belly White

That said, allow me to concede that belief in Creationism is an item of factional identification. If you don’t believe, you’re one of THEM, not one of US - note the Either/Or.

115 jaunte  Feb 11, 2015 1:45:49pm

re: #110 EPR-radar

The competing world views are secular humanism (at least as applied to public policy) and theocracy (i.e., religion applied to public policy).

The first is our national tradition aspiration.

116 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 1:46:00pm

abcnews.go.com

Farris Barakat, Deah Barakat’s brother, said Hicks had confronted his brother previously about a dispute over a parking space, adding that he never heard Hicks make any anti-Muslim remarks.

When Farris Barakat had visited his brother, Hicks had yelled at him, telling him he was parking in the wrong space, Farris Barakat told ABC News. Farris Barakat added that he tried to respond in a calm manner, not wanting to upset Hicks further, and said his brother also treated Hicks in a respectful manner.

Hicks showed up at Barakat and Mohammad’s home in the past with a gun on his belt, and Mohammad had confided that she was afraid of Hicks, Farris Barakat said. The two joked that maybe she should get a gun, he added.

117 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 11, 2015 1:46:05pm

re: #14 stpaulbear

I’ll be happy when Walker finally gets indicted for corruption.

He won’t. The GOP has the judiciary fixed to prevent that kind of justice in WI.

118 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 1:46:09pm

re: #110 EPR-radar

I missed this doozy on the first reading. You are in fact completely correct here.

The competing world views are secular humanism (at least as applied to public policy) and theocracy (i.e., religion applied to public policy).

One world view is correct and the other is as wrong as it is possible to be.

I would say here that belief in Evolution does not imply Secular Humanism, anymore than belief in Gravity does. IMO, to say such is to buy into the ‘It’s a Worldview!’ nonsense.

119 Dr. Matt  Feb 11, 2015 1:47:02pm

re: #61 klys (maker of Silmarils)

#ChapelHillShooting shooter had shown up with a rifle at Yusor Abu-Salha’s door before, according to @LatoyaPeterson: t.co
— Melissa Chan (@melissakchan) February 11, 2015

In a handful of states that would be considering brandishing and can be charged as a felony. I don’t know if such a law exists in NC.

120 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 1:50:37pm

re: #119 Dr. Matt

In a handful of states that would be considering brandishing and can be charged as a felony. I don’t know if such a law exists in NC.

Requires that the victims be willing to escalate the issue to the police, though. It sounds like they didn’t (no police record of any incidents, at least). Maybe they (mistakenly, tragically, in this case) thought that by not reporting it, the situation could be smoothed over instead of making it worse.

121 EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2015 1:51:43pm

re: #115 jaunte

The first is our national tradition aspiration.

Precisely. The US itself is a construct of the same philosophical enlightenment that wingnuts want to categorically reject.

So, ironically enough, wingnuts who blather on and on about their un-American political enemies are often the most profoundly anti-American of all.

122 Ace-o-aces  Feb 11, 2015 1:53:50pm

The diversity of people calling CCJ an asshole for this is stunning.

From Right-Wing Bush fanboy

To Will fucking Wheaton.

123 bratwurst  Feb 11, 2015 1:54:20pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

My time here’s short because I’m on break at work, but I’d have to make the point that for Scott Walker answering this question was a no-win scenario.

Gosh…ya think facing difficult questions instead of avoiding them might be a qualification to be POTUS?

124 EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2015 1:55:19pm

re: #118 Blind Frog Belly White

I would say here that belief in Evolution does not imply Secular Humanism, anymore than belief in Gravity does. IMO, to say such is to buy into the ‘It’s a Worldview!’ nonsense.

The competing world views narrative may be nonsense, but it is also political reality.

So in a sense, we’re both correct. There is no logical link from the scientific theory of evolution to a philosophical world view, but that link is there as a political fact.

For my part, I’d like to see a greater emphasis by the Democrats et al. on identifying and opposing theocracy in the various flavors pushed by the GOP.

125 EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2015 1:56:58pm

re: #123 bratwurst

Gosh…ya think facing difficult questions instead of avoiding them might be a qualification to be POTUS?

Of course. The first requirement for a GOP candidate for POTUS is to be stealthy about the bad craziness of the GOP base in order to avoid scaring off swing voters.

126 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 1:57:47pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

Creationism, and more importantly, getting schools to teach it as a valid theory, is just another way for Evangelical zealots to impose their beliefs and to reinforce that they’re status as special little snowflakes is still protected by Government.

A politician saying we need to “teach the controversy” is just another way to say “I’m on your side” to these theocratic morons.

127 Ace-o-aces  Feb 11, 2015 1:57:51pm
128 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 2:00:33pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

The competing world views narrative may be nonsense, but it is also political reality.

So in a sense, we’re both correct. There is no logical link from the scientific theory of evolution to a philosophical world view, but that link is there as a political fact.

For my part, I’d like to see a greater emphasis by the Democrats et al. on identifying and opposing theocracy in the various flavors pushed by the GOP.

I would argue that denying Evolution is a sign of a particular worldview - that of a very narrow slice of Protestant American Christianism - but that accepting it is not a sign of any particular worldview, since that is shared by most other religions and is not the basis of any political philosophy.

129 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 2:02:14pm

re: #128 Blind Frog Belly White

I would argue that denying Evolution is a sign of a particular worldview - that of a very narrow slice of Protestant American Christianism - but that accepting it is not a sign of any particular worldview, since that is shared by most other religions and is not the basis of any political philosophy.

I think rational people would all agree with that, but the people for whom Creationism is important would disagree vehemently - if you accept evolution, you are completely against them and totally side with the other. Remember, no nuance here.

And pandering to the irrational folks is more important than doing what is best for the country, because otherwise they can’t get elected.

130 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 2:03:15pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

It shows that he is a coward who is unable to stand up for his personal beliefs and instead goes for political points/low info votes.
Not someone I want to lead this country.

131 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:03:18pm

Damn it! Missed them.

Update: Netflix appears to have removed episodes from ‘House of Cards’ season 3, which were briefly available ahead of the Feb. 27 announced release date - @verge
read more on theverge.com

132 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 11, 2015 2:03:47pm

re: #118 Blind Frog Belly White

I would say here that belief in Evolution does not imply Secular Humanism, anymore than belief in Gravity does.

Fer fuck’s sake, even the Pope says that there is nothing inconsistent about believing in Evolution and Creation.
But if you believe in a narrow, literalist interpretation of the Bible, then you cannot believe in Evolution, or science or even logic. And that is what these people are espousing.

133 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 2:04:06pm

latimes.com

Neighbors described Hicks as an angry, hulking figure who exploded in rage over parking spaces and noise.

“He was very disgruntled, very aggressive. He would scream at people,” said Samantha Maness, 25, a technical college student who lives across a parking lot from the apartments of Hicks and two of the three slain students in a housing complex of winding streets and towering loblolly pines a few miles from the University of North Carolina campus.

“He made everyone feel uncomfortable and unsafe,” Maness said Wednesday, speaking outside Hick’s upstairs apartment, which backs up to an adjoining apartment where two of the shooting victims lived. Flowers had been left on the lawn in front of the building.

Residents of Finley Forest apartments in Chapel Hill had been so alarmed by Hicks’ rants that they called a community meeting last year, Maness said. Residents shared stories about being confronted by Hicks, but no one mentioned the meeting to Hicks and nothing came of it, she said.

Maness said she never heard Hicks refer to anyone’s religion or race. “He had equal opportunity anger toward all the residents,” she said.

134 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 2:04:10pm
135 bratwurst  Feb 11, 2015 2:05:02pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

The GOP wants to have it both ways: the unconditional love and support of religious extremists while not alienating people who are willing and able to separate science from faith. You can dance to that beat if you like (and I truly hate to imagine what Scott Walker would have to say in order for you to criticize him after he smacked greedy teachers around), but I am going to call him and you on it every single time.

136 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 2:05:43pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

good grief, DF. You can sit there and honestly say that YOU DO NOT SEE THE PROBLEM????

137 darthstar  Feb 11, 2015 2:07:01pm

Someone facebooked me asking if I was darth from LGF. I confirmed that, but told him that I keep my political and personal lives separate. Facebook, I said, is where i share crap with people I actually know that I’m too embarrassed to share anonymously.

He replied with a request to call him as he had something to discuss that was too sensitive to do anonymously.

If it’s you, say something and I’ll turn my nic blue and you can email. If it’s not a lizard, fuck it. I don’t have time to play internet games.

138 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:07:55pm

re: #133 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

latimes.com

I often wonder why people don’t complain and go through the civil legal process of getting someone like him evicted, and/or reporting feeling threatened by him to the police. Even if nothing was done, it would be on the record.

139 Ace-o-aces  Feb 11, 2015 2:08:09pm

I can’t imagine why he can’t find investors. Who wouldn’t want to give this guy money?

140 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 2:09:12pm

re: #137 darthstar

Someone facebooked me asking if I was darth from LGF. I confirmed that, but told him that I keep my political and personal lives separate. Facebook, I said, is where i share crap with people I actually know that I’m too embarrassed to share anonymously.

He replied with a request to call him as he had something to discuss that was too sensitive to do anonymously.

If it’s you, say something and I’ll turn my nic blue and you can email. If it’s not a lizard, fuck it. I don’t have time to play internet games.

You’re blowing your chance to meet a hot Asian girl with a Glock and a secret you won’t believe.

141 Ace-o-aces  Feb 11, 2015 2:09:19pm
142 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:09:59pm

re: #139 Ace-o-aces

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I can’t imagine why he can’t find investors. Who wouldn’t want to give this guy money?

Is that supposed to be his soft, tender side?

143 bratwurst  Feb 11, 2015 2:10:00pm

Hey I wonder what former lizard Debbie Schlussel is up to…oh, turns out she is on the “demonize the victims of terrorism” train:

Far-Right Screecher Debbie Schlussel Calls ISIS Victim Kayla Mueller a “Jew-Hating Bitch”

Remember when hesitating before speaking ill of the dead was a thing?

144 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 2:10:05pm

re: #138 Justanotherhuman

I guess nobody expects something like that, and then it’s too late.

145 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 2:10:35pm

re: #137 darthstar

Someone facebooked me asking if I was darth from LGF. I confirmed that, but told him that I keep my political and personal lives separate. Facebook, I said, is where i share crap with people I actually know that I’m too embarrassed to share anonymously.

He replied with a request to call him as he had something to discuss that was too sensitive to do anonymously.

If it’s you, say something and I’ll turn my nic blue and you can email. If it’s not a lizard, fuck it. I don’t have time to play internet games.

Wasn’t me. If I ever need to tell you something private, look for a DM via twitter.

146 Egregious Philbin  Feb 11, 2015 2:11:13pm

Evolution is not something to be “believed” in! You either accept the overwhelming scientific fact, or you are a moron. Quite a simple thing.

147 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:14:02pm

re: #144 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I guess nobody expects something like that, and then it’s too late.

But he had scared the victims prior to this, and tenants even had a meeting about him. I know the cops won’t do anything much, but make them be the ‘protectors and servants’ they’re supposed to be.

148 #FergusonFireside  Feb 11, 2015 2:14:12pm

re: #137 darthstar

Someone facebooked me asking if I was darth from LGF. I confirmed that, but told him that I keep my political and personal lives separate. Facebook, I said, is where i share crap with people I actually know that I’m too embarrassed to share anonymously.

He replied with a request to call him as he had something to discuss that was too sensitive to do anonymously.

If it’s you, say something and I’ll turn my nic blue and you can email. If it’s not a lizard, fuck it. I don’t have time to play internet games.

Not me, lucky you.

149 Lidane  Feb 11, 2015 2:14:39pm

re: #146 Egregious Philbin

Evolution is not something to be “believed” in! You either accept the overwhelming scientific fact, or you are a moron. Quite a simple thing.

150 bratwurst  Feb 11, 2015 2:15:05pm

In other news, Bill Kristol is trying to troll Hillary Clinton into showing up for Netanyahu’s campaign event Iran speech before a joint session of Congress.

Gee, I wonder if she should take the invitation of a man who hasn’t been right about anything in about a quarter century…

151 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 2:15:51pm

re: #146 Egregious Philbin

Evolution is not something to be “believed” in! You either accept the overwhelming scientific fact, or you are a moron. Quite a simple thing.

Missed the webinar on “Winning Hearts and Minds”, didya’?

152 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:16:09pm

House is voting on Senate-passed Keystone pipeline bill; expected to pass and go to President Obama, who has said he would veto the legislation - @NBCNews
end of alert

153 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 11, 2015 2:16:31pm
154 Lidane  Feb 11, 2015 2:16:47pm
155 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 2:17:07pm

Evening Lizardim.

156 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 11, 2015 2:19:05pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

In the context of the religious groups controlling US social conservatism, creationism is Biblical “literalism,” and literalism is about appropriating God as a political bludgeon.

Creationism in one stroke nullifies not only skepticism and empiricism, but draws a hard line between “real Christians” and “people who don’t think the Bible is true.”

It’s not an ideological test, it’s an epistemological test. You have to accept truth as solely divine, and solely distributed through “real Christians” that read the Bible the only correct way. You’re not allowed to talked about the Bible as a historical document, or a cultural text, or as a translation: it’s True, True, True. It doesn’t matter how much rabbis or cardinals have debated whether Genesis’s creation is myth, metaphor, or narration, it’s True.

Hence the subsequent elaboration of creationism, “teaching the controversy,” in which a false dichotomy is formed between singular divine creation and biology/geology/astrophysics/etc. Disappeared is all the complexity and nuance of interpreting Genesis, all the history and theology…it’s just “the other theory.”

157 Dr. Matt  Feb 11, 2015 2:20:01pm

re: #150 bratwurst

“I imagine that, as a longtime supporter of Israel, you’ll want to be in attendance to show support for the U.S.-Israel relationship.”
~William The Bloody

What does attendance have to do with showing support? I support my President, but I have never been in attendance at any of his SOTU addresses or his two inauguration speeches. I support the Foo Fighters, but don’t attend every show they play. I support the University of Michigan Football team, but don’t attend every game they play.

Bill can go f**k himself.

158 b_sharp  Feb 11, 2015 2:20:10pm

Just got home after having a molar pulled. They tried to yank it out with pliers but it shattered so they had to dig it out with a dull rusty shovel.

159 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 2:20:20pm

LOL, what a freaking idiot.

160 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 2:22:01pm

re:
#154

Will Obama seize office for a third term so he can convert Americans to Islam? Family Research Council to investigate

Even though the brainiacs at the FRC are vowing to save us, and even though it makes absolutely no f8cking sense, and even though Hillary at least wouldn’t abide a third Obama term, I can’t imagine Obama or anyone else these days would want to occupy the presidential office for a third term. The country’s too f0cking crazy for anyone to endure that sht.

161 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 2:22:16pm

Dawkins is a total douchecanoe lately, but blaming him for the murder? That’s some new level of assholery.

162 Dr. Matt  Feb 11, 2015 2:22:28pm

re: #152 Justanotherhuman

House is voting on Senate-passed Keystone pipeline bill; expected to pass and go to President Obama, who has said he would veto the legislation - @NBCNews
end of alert

Mr. President, #Veto #KeystoneXL
163 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:23:39pm

House approves Senate-passed bill to build Keystone pipeline, 270-152; President Obama expected to veto - @NBCNews, @AP
end of alert

164 Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2015 2:23:52pm
165 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 2:24:03pm

re:
#158

Just got home after having a molar pulled. They tried to yank it out with pliers but it shattered so they had to dig it out with a dull rusty shovel.

May you have access to plenty of soothing happy pills.

166 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 2:24:16pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

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What’s he on about now?

167 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 11, 2015 2:25:32pm

re: #159 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Unfortunately, Dawkins (and before he died Hitchens as well) form of a quite fundamentalist & evangelical atheism is as great a problem as any other fundamentalist religious movement. There is little difference to me between their hate speech and the hate speech that comes from religious leaders.

Equally unfortunately, I have pull a DF and leave for work right now. Perhaps when the shift is done in 3 ~ 4 hours this thread will still be going.

168 darthstar  Feb 11, 2015 2:26:19pm

Hey Charles - I just “reported” a post of mine from last year…can you delete it? Asking for a person I quoted who is apparently having problems with the tiny-dicked Todd Kincannon.

169 Timothy Watson  Feb 11, 2015 2:27:40pm

re: #168 darthstar

Hey Charles - I just “reported” a post of mine from last year…can you delete it? Asking for a person I quoted who is apparently having problems with the tiny-dicked Todd Kincannon.

I take it that was what the Facebook message was about?

170 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 2:28:49pm

re: #167 William Barnett-Lewis

Not that it matters, because it doesn’t have anything to do with the murder, but in what sense is he a fundamentalist atheist?

171 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 2:29:18pm

re:
#164

Chuck’s been spewing awful crap all day.

It’s a day ending in -day. That’s why.

172 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 2:29:40pm

re: #139 Ace-o-aces

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I can’t imagine why he can’t find investors. Who wouldn’t want to give this guy money?

And then I scrolled back and saw this tweet. Because killing people is totally the American Way. Dear God, what terror the gun-fuckers have wrought.

173 ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2015 2:30:15pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

My time here’s short because I’m on break at work, but I’d have to make the point that for Scott Walker answering this question was a no-win scenario. To oppose evolution would have exposed him to being called a fool while to support it would annoy the support of religious conservatives whose support is needed to get the Republican nomination. Thus, punting was the smart play.

Moreover, asking about evolution in American politics today is less about science and more about factional identification. “Do you believe in evolution?” really means “Do you believe in a particular worldview?”

I do believe in evolution, btw. But in politics, matters relating to evolution are a strange game and Scott Walker made the only logical move by refusing to play.

Booo! This is as weak as Walker.

You realize your own responses to this indicate you know how lame these GOP candidates really are. “Not ready to play” really means not ready to be a true presidential candidate…not ready for prime time.

But vote for them anyway…

174 jaunte  Feb 11, 2015 2:30:58pm

re: #134 Kragar

“We have a generation that’s been raised on this leftist ooze, this toxic ooze of leftist inculcation, and they’re pretty zombie-like, so I don’t know.”

Needs more BRAIINNZZZ!!

175 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:32:23pm

Editor’s note: While U.S. Congress has approved legislation to build the Keystone XL oil pipeline, neither the House or Senate has enough votes to overcome a presidential veto, AP reports. - Stephanie
end of note

176 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 2:33:34pm

re: #175 Justanotherhuman

Editor’s note: While U.S. Congress has approved legislation to build the Keystone XL oil pipeline, neither the House or Senate has enough votes to overcome a presidential veto, AP reports. - Stephanie
end of note

Thus leaving the door wide open for the all-out-of-fucks-to-give Obama to put a serious dent in the wingnuts’ plans for American domination.

177 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:33:47pm

The RW is not going to like that last one tiny bit.

As is sometimes said, tough titty, Rs.

178 stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2015 2:34:31pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

I’ve been away for about an hour, but I notice that I gave you an ‘out’ by replying to your original comment with something flippant, while you didn’t reply to anyone that provided a more thoughtful answer.

Your support of Walker for pandering to the most ignorant element of your party is telling. The only thing you seem to stand for is party unity. If encouraging ignorance keeps the party running smoothly then, by all means, let ignorance rule. Yay team.

PS: Happy reading.

179 Lidane  Feb 11, 2015 2:35:02pm

re: #176 thedopefishlives

Thus leaving the door wide open for the all-out-of-fucks-to-give Obama to put a serious dent in the wingnuts’ plans for American domination.

180 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 2:35:45pm

If you ask, say, a fundamentalist Christian, “Do you believe 100% that God exists”, the answer will be pretty straightforward. If you ask Dawkins, he will answer “I don’t know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there”.

If that’s “fundamentalism”…

181 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:36:52pm

Please let that slogan, “What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas” be true.

2 more cases of measles reported in Las Vegas; 1 a young child and the other an adult who works in the MGM Grand - @reviewjournal
read more on reviewjournal.com

Get well soon.

182 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 2:38:57pm

Chuck is so disgustingly stupid:

183 EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2015 2:39:32pm

re: #178 stpaulbear

I’ve been away for about an hour, but I notice that I gave you an ‘out’ by replying to your original comment with something flippant, while you didn’t reply to anyone that provided a more thoughtful answer.

Your support of Walker for pandering to the most ignorant element of your party is telling. The only thing you seem to stand for is party unity. If encouraging ignorance keeps the party running smoothly then, by all means, let ignorance rule. Yay team.

Unfortunately, fostering ignorance in the name of party unity is only the starting point for this crap. The GOP’s massive problems with racism, misogyny and homophobia also need to be studiously ignored.

Not so incidentally, the GOP’s nearly complete lack of any rationally defensible policy proposals at all is also on the lengthy list of things to be ignored.

Displays of tribal loyalty and pissing off liberals may in truth be the only reasons any non-Plutocrat votes Republican.

184 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 2:40:42pm

re: #158 b_sharp

Just got home after having a molar pulled. They tried to yank it out with pliers but it shattered so they had to dig it out with a dull rusty shovel.

Lordy you have had a tough month or two. Better luck must be coming up soon for ya both.

185 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 2:40:55pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chuck is so disgustingly stupid:

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“It was satire! You libruls have no sense of humor!”

186 Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2015 2:41:00pm
187 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 2:41:53pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

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He seems nice.
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188 bratwurst  Feb 11, 2015 2:42:15pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

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That is…uh…quite a time line he has going there.

189 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 2:43:00pm

re: #188 bratwurst

That is…uh…quite a time line he has going there.

I was going to look but thought better of it.

190 b_sharp  Feb 11, 2015 2:43:04pm

re: #165 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#158

May you have access to plenty of soothing happy pills.

Just Tylenol Codeine

191 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:43:52pm

Another football fatality?

Jesse Freitas, former Stanford and Chargers quarterback, found dead

sfgate.com

Jesse Freitas, a former Stanford quarterback who played pro football for the San Diego Chargers and later struggled with mental illness, was found dead in the back of a car in Petaluma, authorities said Wednesday.

(snip)

“Freitas’ family has agreed to have his brain sent out and tested for chronic traumatic encephalopathy, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune.

“The degenerative brain disease has been found in many athletes, including boxers and hockey and football players, who have experienced repeated head trauma. Patients with the condition are known to experience behavioral and personality changes along with depression.” More

192 ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2015 2:44:17pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

First Amendment.

Why is someone that is a conservative and so staunch a supporter of the second amendment asking that question knowing the first is pretty damn clear. You can’t be a conservative if you choose your amendments.

12 years of Catholic school in a damn good program filled with the classic liberal arts education and never a mention of creationism. You know why? Because the Catholic based education never ran away from the thinking. They have their issues with things like birth control, but when it comes to practical sciences, they know creationism is bull.

It’s made up claptrap that is designed to fight off evolution and advancing science back early in the century when the progressive movement and the industrial revolution were passing woo-woo old time religion. It has really gained a foothold since the 70s due to the Jesus-freak movement, TV preachers and media, and the huge mega-churches.

193 b_sharp  Feb 11, 2015 2:44:35pm

re: #177 Justanotherhuman

The RW is not going to like that last one tiny bit.

As is sometimes said, tough titty, Rs.

I’ve always wondered what a tough titty feels like.

194 b_sharp  Feb 11, 2015 2:45:38pm

re: #184 Great White Snark

Lordy you have had a tough month or two. Better luck must be coming up soon for ya both.

I sure the fuck hope so.

195 Mike Lamb  Feb 11, 2015 2:45:39pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

I really don’t care if the truth that they people are backwards, scientifically illiterate, etc. etc. doesn’t help very much. It’s the truth, and I’m not going to tap dance around it.

196 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:45:52pm

re: #193 b_sharp

I’ve always wondered what a tough titty feels like.

Ever been around a cow’s teats? : )

197 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 2:46:24pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

His “bio”

“If you don’t support the constitution I defended, you are indefensible & expendable”

I wonder which Constitution is the one he defended.

198 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 2:46:33pm

Being a fundie and being a bigot or a douchecanoe are different things. Dawkins is the latter, and unless he starts proclaiming atheism as some absolute truth and/or calling for repression of believers, he’s not a “fundamentalist”.

199 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 2:47:25pm

re: #193 b_sharp

I’ve always wondered what a tough titty feels like.

Now you know why you are going to miss that molar…

200 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 2:47:33pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

201 b_sharp  Feb 11, 2015 2:47:55pm

re: #196 Justanotherhuman

Ever been around a cow’s teats? : )

yes.

I’ve pulled a few.

202 jaunte  Feb 11, 2015 2:48:08pm

re: #197 Kragar

I think he defended the Constitution by opening a 2nd amendment solutions shoppe.

203 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 2:48:50pm

re: #197 Kragar

His “bio”

“If you don’t support the constitution I defended, you are indefensible & expendable”

I wonder which Constitution is the one he defended.

That asswipe doesn’t understand that a whole lot of people defended the Constitution, not just military and gunfuckers.

204 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:48:55pm

This damned trend is scary. Get mad over something and go shoot someone because you can’t work things out. Really?

Police: San Diego sportscaster was in business dispute with painter suspected of shooting him - @AP
end of alert

205 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 2:50:05pm

I confess, if the only exposure I had to believers was the American Right and Radical Islamists as portrayed on Fox, it would be easy for me to be ‘antitheist’, i.e. wanting all religions to go away. But I’ve known too many good people for whom their faith is a positive thing.

The Older Boy’s Girl Friend (OBGF) was raised in a Conservative Christian home - even homeschooled - but it didn’t take. It left her with a jaundiced view of belief and believers. She had never experienced the kind of Christians who raised me.

206 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 2:51:15pm

re: #204 Justanotherhuman

This damned trend is scary. Get mad over something and go shoot someone because you can’t work things out. Really?

Police: San Diego sportscaster was in business dispute with painter suspected of shooting him - @AP
end of alert

Hey, Chuck C. Johnson, award-winning journalist douchecanoe, says it’s the American Way. Be a good citizen; pop a cap in your neighbor’s ass! To hell with that Good Samaritan bullshit!

207 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 2:51:21pm

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #193 b_sharp

I’ve always wondered what a tough titty feels like.

Dunno about the feel, but they might just ring like a pair of bells.

208 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 2:51:52pm

Now, Madalyn Murray O’Hair was a fundamentalist. For her “God does not exist” was basically a dogma, from what I read.

209 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:52:40pm

re: #206 thedopefishlives

Hey, Chuck C. Johnson, award-winning journalist douchecanoe, says it’s the American Way. Be a good citizen; pop a cap in your neighbor’s ass! To hell with that Good Samaritan bullshit!

Not very profitable, though, presenting yourself as a throwback, I guess. ; 0

210 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:53:43pm

re: #207 Great White Snark

Dunno about the feel, but they might just ring like a pair of bells.

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Only a male artist could actually think metal bras are a good idea…

211 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 2:53:51pm

DSCOVR launch is still a go at T-10

212 Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2015 2:54:24pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Again, that’s what that question was really about.

And let me ask a question myself: Why do folks here think creationism is important to people who believe in it? In answering, please avoid simplistic answers like “Because they’re backwards rubes.”, as those don’t help much.

I’ll be back later to read what folks have to say.

Because faith is constant and science is ever changing.

For people taught to fear from a young age (and I’ve never known a ‘conservative Christian’ who wasn’t terrified of everything, starting with God) science is a slippery slope leading to Hell.

Humans don’t like to think and a fair number of them really don’t like it. For them faith is a substitute for thought.

So the Universe is only 6,000 year old, modern animals descended from ‘kinds’ on The Ark and God punishes the wicked. Plus, although they don’t talk about it when heretics and unbelievers are around, their faith absolves them of guilt when said heretics and unbelievers are made to suffer at the faithful’s hands.

213 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 2:55:54pm

Switching to internal power @ T-8

214 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 2:56:12pm
215 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 2:57:09pm

re: #207 Great White Snark

Dunno about the feel, but they might just ring like a pair of bells.

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That makes me think of the scene in “Siegfried”, where Siegfried finds Brunnhilde on her rock, surrounded by the fire Wotan put there. He lifts her breastplate and says, “Das is kein Mann!”

As Anna Russel says of Siegfried, “…and he’s very handsome, and he’s very strong, and he’s very stupid.”

216 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 2:58:43pm

re: #207 Great White Snark

Dunno about the feel, but they might just ring like a pair of bells.

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I also really hope that’s a mannequin, because her nostrils don’t go anywhere!
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217 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 2:59:50pm

Retracting to service gantry

218 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 3:00:10pm

Just my personal opinion, of course, but I find myself feeling as uncomfortable around some of the very vocal atheists (like Dawkins) as I do around vocal evangelical Christians.

For whatever that is worth.

219 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 3:00:55pm
220 Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2015 3:01:18pm

And today we have another crappy article attacking President Obama at Vox.

The Glaring Contradiction in Obama’s Case for His Own Foreign Policy

Amazing that these 20-something journalists are such experts on foreign policy.

221 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 3:01:28pm

T-3 minutes

222 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:01:35pm

Interestingly, quite a lot of ire has been directed at Dawkins, whose fan Hicks is, but not a lot at Neil deGrasse Tyson, whom the murderer quoted at least as often.

223 jaunte  Feb 11, 2015 3:01:38pm

Another Bryan Fischer/AFA win:
Mississippi the most eager state to see ‘Fifty Shades of Grey’

The American Family Association and its president, Tim Wildmon, are urging everyone not to see the movie. Aside from the graphic sexual nature of the movie, the AFA said the movie promotes domestic violence.

In a Monday news release, Wildmon said, “The irony is not lost that the film’s main character is named, ‘Christian,’ while this film presents anything but a ‘Christian’ view of intimacy,”
…………..
Fandango calculated pre-ticket sales for the movie and compared that to each state’s average to determine which state seems the most eager to watch the film. The No. 1 state? Mississippi, nearly four times its average for pre-show ticket sales. And the first city to sellout a theater in Mississippi? Tupelo, where the AFA office is located.

224 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 3:01:48pm

re: #221 Bubblehead II

T-3 minutes

I can haz feed?

225 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 3:02:08pm

re: #224 thedopefishlives

I can haz feed?

ustream.tv

226 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 3:02:24pm

re: #219 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Damn! Space X luck on landing the first stage sucks. and we are also go for launch.

227 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:02:37pm

re: #218 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Just my personal opinion, of course, but I find myself feeling as uncomfortable around some of the very vocal atheists (like Dawkins) as I do around vocal evangelical Christians.

For whatever that is worth.

One could say that about lots of “vocal” and “radical” someones, I guess. Regardless of group id.

228 Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2015 3:02:39pm

re: #218 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Just my personal opinion, of course, but I find myself feeling as uncomfortable around some of the very vocal atheists (like Dawkins) as I do around vocal evangelical Christians.

For whatever that is worth.

I used to like Dawkins, but over the years he’s gotten more and more belligerent. Can’t stand him now, and especially since he started linking approvingly to raging bigot Pat Condell.

229 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 3:02:49pm

re: #221 Bubblehead II

T-3 minutes

UStream link for those who are interested:

ustream.tv

230 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 3:02:57pm

re: #219 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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It’s remarkable enough that they can demonstrate the required precision to land the damn thing on a platform.

231 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 3:03:11pm
232 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 3:03:59pm

re: #218 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Just my personal opinion, of course, but I find myself feeling as uncomfortable around some of the very vocal atheists (like Dawkins) as I do around vocal evangelical Christians.

For whatever that is worth.

It’s that whole ‘assholeism’ thing again.

I used to get dinged for ‘making fun of people’s beliefs’, when I responded to people who told me I didn’t believe in God so I could be as sinful as I want, with the following:

We say that ‘ethics’ is how you behave when nobody is watching. But if you’re a believer, there’s NEVER ‘nobody watching’, so believers cannot be said to be ethical.

Boy, did that piss them off.

233 Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2015 3:04:12pm

re: #134 Kragar

Pamela Geller To Obama: ‘Excuse Me, Mr. President, But We Speak American Raving, Spittle Flecked Hatred Here’ | Right Wing Watch

That’s what the frothing loon really means.

234 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:04:18pm

re: #231 Kragar

If it’s not fake, it’s funny, considering he’s a left-wing anti-teaparty liberal.

235 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 3:04:25pm

Ignition & lift off

236 EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2015 3:04:35pm

re: #218 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Just my personal opinion, of course, but I find myself feeling as uncomfortable around some of the very vocal atheists (like Dawkins) as I do around vocal evangelical Christians.

For whatever that is worth.

Me too. I get very uncomfortable when criticism of organized religions starts getting into accusations of being ‘uniquely evil’.

IMO, that is a more reliable marker for ‘fundamentalism’ than statements of non-belief which allow for the possibility of refutation based on new evidence.

I don’t know enough about Dawkins to say whether he goes too far (IMO) along these lines or not, but I’ve certainly seen the anti-Muslim version of this at LGF from some commenters, since banned.

237 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 3:05:11pm

re: #220 Charles Johnson

And today we have another crappy article attacking President Obama at Vox.

The Glaring Contradiction in Obama’s Case for His Own Foreign Policy

Amazing that these 20-something journalists are such experts on foreign policy.

They have the advantage of not watching 50 years of US foreign policy successes and failures. It’s history to them, not their own memories.

238 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 3:05:16pm

re: #235 Bubblehead II

Ignition & lift off

I’ve been fascinated with NASA and spaceflight since I was just a wee lad. I never get tired of seeing rocket engines blasting the pad and lifting away.

239 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 3:05:59pm
240 bratwurst  Feb 11, 2015 3:06:37pm

Yesterday, the Illinois Senator who told lies about his war record at least as bad as those of Brian Williams:

“The Republicans - if there is a successful attack during a DHS shutdown - we should build a number of coffins outside each Democratic office and say, ‘You are responsible for these dead Americans.’”

But today a complete 180:

“I generally agree with the Democratic position here. I think we should have never fought this battle on DHS funding,” the Illinois senator said in the Capitol. “I think it’s the wrong battle for us at the wrong time.”…

Asked by TPM if McConnell should allow a vote on a “clean” DHS funding bill without the immigration provisions, Kirk said, “Yeah, I think in the end — yeah,” and flashed a thumbs up. That makes him the first Republican senator to call on his leaders to back away from the immigration fight.

Amazing!

241 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 3:06:43pm

That’s a really unique exhaust plume.

242 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 3:07:00pm

re: #238 thedopefishlives

I’ve been fascinated with NASA and spaceflight since I was just a wee lad. I never get tired of seeing rocket engines blasting the pad and lifting away.

Neither do I. Bummed that weather is going to prevent and 1st stage landing attempt on the barge.

243 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 3:07:17pm

Stage 1 separation. Set ‘er down gently, boys, you might still get a chance to recover.

244 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 3:07:40pm

1st stage separation complete.

245 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 3:07:49pm
246 Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2015 3:08:15pm

re: #154 Lidane

By investigate they mean, “Talk with people as crazy and hate filled as us in a massive circle jerk until we come to the only conclusion permissible: Obama is the enemy of everything holy and good.”

247 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 3:08:52pm

re: #238 thedopefishlives

I’ve been fascinated with NASA and spaceflight since I was just a wee lad. I never get tired of seeing rocket engines blasting the pad and lifting away.

I remember my Dad waking me up for the early morning launches on the black-and-white Zenith back in the 1960s. And all the times they held the count, then scrubbed. I had no appreciation at the time for how primitive all that stuff really was!

Mrs. FBW’s Dad took her to see Apollo 11 launching, but she was maybe 11 at the time, and it didn’t mean much. “Boy, was it LOUD!” is about all she remembers.

248 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 3:09:06pm

was able to see maneuvering thrusters on first stage firing for a few seconds before it went out of camera range..

249 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 3:09:36pm

Alecia Faith Pennington’s video explaining her claim has been watched nearly 600,000 times since being posted online on Monday. She says that, though she was born in the U.S., her parents did not file a birth certificate because her delivery was carried out at home. She also says that she never received a Social Security number.

“I was homeschooled my entire life, so I had no school records,” Pennington says. “Also, never been to the hospital, so I have no medical records. This leaves me with nothing to prove my identity or citizenship.”

250 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:09:52pm

Hicks: Tea Party = Taliban = Nazis

facebook.com

251 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 3:09:52pm

now showing 1st stage w/main engines running

252 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 3:09:57pm

re: #248 Bubblehead II

was able to see maneuvering thrusters on first stage firing for a few seconds before it went out of camera range..

saw them too, but didn’t get the screenshot in time.

253 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 3:10:43pm

re: #249 Kragar

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254 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 3:11:12pm

re: #247 Blind Frog Belly White

I remember my Dad waking me up for the early morning launches on the black-and-white Zenith back in the 1960s. And all the times they held the count, then scrubbed. I had no appreciation at the time for how primitive all that stuff really was!

Mrs. FBW’s Dad took her to see Apollo 11 launching, but she was maybe 11 at the time, and it didn’t mean much. “Boy, was it LOUD!” is about all she remembers.

I’m a child of the Space Shuttle program. I always wanted to attend a launch, but as a middle-class family in the Midwest with two young children, a trip to Cape Canaveral wasn’t exactly in the cards. I was only a little over a year old when the Challenger exploded, but I learned early on what had happened. I remember watching the news coverage when the Columbia went down, in college; that was a sad day for me.

255 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 3:12:35pm
256 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 3:12:35pm

LGF is one of the first places I have been on the Internet where the majority of people are willing to respect others’ beliefs and the attitude of “you’re an idiot because you believe x” is remarkably absent. It is one of the major reasons I am willing to stick around for religion discussions here, and their interaction with politics.

I am a firm believer in everyone having the right to believe whatever the hell they want as long as it does not impact others’ lives and rights, and they don’t try to shove my face in it. Atheists can fail that test just as easily as any other group, because people of all types can be assholes.

257 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 3:13:03pm

re: #232 Blind Frog Belly White

Yes, their arrogant assholery is what turned me off to all of those who presented themselves as ‘experts’ on atheism.

I don’t believe in God or any kind of spiritual or religious ideology, so I call myself an atheist for lack of any other description. : )

258 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 3:13:26pm

re: #231 Kragar

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Dude, plug your phone in. It’s about to crap out.

259 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:13:35pm

re: #256 klys (maker of Silmarils)

True.

260 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 3:14:47pm

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Yes, their arrogant assholery is what turned me off to all of those who presented themselves as ‘experts’ on atheism.

I don’t believe in God or any kind of spiritual or religious ideology, so I call myself an atheist for lack of any other description. : )

How can one be an expert on atheism? It’s not like there are a lot of subtleties to “I don’t think there’s any god or gods”. There ain’t a whole lot to study.

261 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 3:15:18pm

re: #249 Kragar

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I would file that under ‘child neglect’.

262 BillinGlendaleCA  Feb 11, 2015 3:15:20pm

re: #247 Blind Frog Belly White

The area that I grew up in was close to where they tested out those engines, loud isn’t half of it; more like a moderate earthquake.

263 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:16:53pm

I thought about that movie.

Hicks’ ex-wife, Cynthia Hurley, said that before they divorced about 17 years ago, his favorite movie was “Falling Down,” the 1993 Michael Douglas film about a divorced unemployed engineer who goes on a shooting rampage.

“That always freaked me out,” Hurley said. “He watched it incessantly. He thought it was hilarious. He had no compassion at all,” she said.

Read more: wsmv.com

264 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 3:18:01pm

Good evening Lizards!

Puppy Break!

I wanna help fold laundry!

Been a busy few days, so haven’t been around. Murph wants to play with the cats, but the cats aren’t having it still. They will come out of the other bedroom and roam around, even come into the bedroom at night. Great puppy is pretty great, overall. Today was the first day he was home alone most of the day, and he waited until I came home for lunch to do his business outside and was happy to go outside again when I got off work.

So Scott Walker is being an idiot in London? Well, I guess he’s consistent with his performance on this side of the pond, at least.

265 Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2015 3:18:19pm

re: #222 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Um, but Tyson has never, ever said anything to directly attack people’s faith while Dawkins, as other lizards have noted, is a vicious nutbar, using his atheism as an excuse to denigrate and belittle people with whom he disagrees.

266 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 3:18:58pm

re: #263 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I thought about that movie.

Also,

“Hicks, a Second Amendment rights advocate with a concealed weapons permit, often complained about both Christians and Muslims on his Facebook page. “Some call me a gun toting Liberal, others call me an open-minded Conservative,” Hicks wrote.”

Read more: wsmv.com

267 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 3:19:00pm

re: #264 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Like a walking shag carpet with a nose and mouth!

268 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 3:19:51pm

re: #267 Blind Frog Belly White

And a tongue that he likes to use, too! :D

(never realized how huge terrier teeth were, either)

269 EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2015 3:21:33pm

re: #260 Blind Frog Belly White

How can one be an expert on atheism? It’s not like there are a lot of subtleties to “I don’t think there’s any god or gods”. There ain’t a whole lot to study.

After all the opposite of worshiping a God you believe in is not a hatred of that God or a vehement denial of its existence with elaborate arguments and justifications.

Indifference is the real opposite of religious belief.

270 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 3:21:36pm

re: #264 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Murphy is overloading with the happy cuteness!
Good on you for the rescue to a Forever Home!!!

271 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 3:21:45pm
272 Ace-o-aces  Feb 11, 2015 3:22:37pm

Wait, is he trying to justify the shootings now?

273 Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2015 3:23:26pm

re: #272 Ace-o-aces

Yes.

274 EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2015 3:23:33pm

re: #271 Kragar

Since when are right wing nut jobs (US or Israeli) held accountable for the errors in their thinking and predictions?

275 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 3:23:59pm

re: #269 EPR-radar

After all the opposite of worshiping a God you believe in is not a hatred of that God or a vehement denial of its existence with elaborate arguments and justifications.

Indifference is the real opposite of religious belief.

My religious beliefs on the existence and nature of the divine are best summarized as “Who the fuck cares?”

276 goddamnedfrank  Feb 11, 2015 3:24:11pm
277 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:24:13pm

re: #265 Romantic Heretic

Um, but Tyson has never, ever said anything to directly attack people’s faith while Dawkins, as other lizards have noted, is a vicious nutbar, using his atheism as an excuse to denigrate and belittle people with whom he disagrees.

Um, except if we go but the standards of whackos like Fecke, being quoted by a murderer is enough. Otherwise we would actually hear some analysis of why they think Dawkins is somehow responsible - like the concrete allegedly objectionable quotes used by Hicks.

278 jaunte  Feb 11, 2015 3:25:05pm

re: #272 Ace-o-aces

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Wait, is he trying to justify the shootings now?

He is such a POS.

279 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 3:25:50pm

re: #272 Ace-o-aces

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Wait, is he trying to justify the shootings now?

*insert eyerolling gif here*

280 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 3:26:01pm

re: #278 jaunte

He is such a POS.

IDK, shit at least serves a valuable bodily function.

281 EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2015 3:26:08pm

re: #278 jaunte

He is such a POS.

CCJ really wants to be the next Rush Limbaugh, and figures that being the biggest asshole on the Internet will be a good start.

282 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 3:26:59pm

re: #275 Kragar

My religious beliefs on the existence and nature of the divine are best summarized as “Who the fuck cares?”

Why do you spend so much hate on a God you say you don’t believe in?!?

283 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 3:28:41pm

re: #282 Blind Frog Belly White

Why do you spend so much hate on a God you say you don’t believe in?!?

I fucking hate overzealous Fanboys of any sort

284 cuzIsaidso  Feb 11, 2015 3:28:43pm

The left sidebar for me is TPMMuckraker, with its top story being “How Did An AR-15 Enter Reports About The Navy Yard Shooting?” dated 17 Sept 2013.

285 Timothy Watson  Feb 11, 2015 3:28:51pm

Heard this on NPR yesterday and didn’t know if anyone else had heard about it:

Advocates Join Fight To Eliminate Detroit’s Rape Kit Backlog

But the city doesn’t have nearly enough money to investigate and prosecute all of these cases.

“It’s ridiculous,” says Kym Worthy, the prosecutor for Wayne County, which includes Detroit.

She says it’s taken a ton of work just to get the state and federal government to pay $5.5 million to test the kits and do some initial investigations.

“It was a fight to try to get funds, you know, dollars and cents to do this,” Worthy says.

But they still need about $10 million more to investigate and prosecute the rest of the cases.

And that’s where Peg Tallet comes in. She works with the Michigan Women’s Foundation, which is asking businesses, foundations and even just regular people to help them raise this $10 million.

npr.org

286 A Cranky One  Feb 11, 2015 3:28:59pm

re: #264 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Glad to hear it’s going well with Murphy. Didn’t think he’d have a problem with the cats, although as Klys noted the cats might not be too thrilled. But it sounds like the cats aren’t reacting too negatively which is good.

He looks like a happy dog! Good for you for providing a home; he’ll add a lot of love to the family.

He does, however, need a good brushing ;)

287 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 3:29:21pm

re: #277 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Um, except if we go but the standards of whackos like Fecke, being quoted by a murderer is enough. Otherwise we would actually hear some analysis of why they think Dawkins is somehow responsible - like the concrete allegedly objectionable quotes used by Hicks.

You mean like a quote from Dawkins saying, “Fucking theists, always taking my parking space! I wish I could have a gun over here in Merrye Olde!”

288 Lidane  Feb 11, 2015 3:29:47pm
289 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 3:30:00pm

re: #272 Ace-o-aces

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Wait, is he trying to justify the shootings now?

As linked upthread, apparently, Chuck C. Johnson has a hard-on for being able to kill whomever you want, whenever you want.

290 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 3:30:46pm

re: #264 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

291 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 3:30:53pm

re: #208 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Now, Madalyn Murray O’Hair was a fundamentalist. For her “God does not exist” was basically a dogma, from what I read.

She was the archetypal atheist of the 1950s US. That’s why I never describe myself as an atheist, no matter what my kids say.

292 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 3:31:43pm
293 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:32:03pm

From the bits and pieces so far: he doesn’t seem to have exhibited the typical anti-Muslim attitude of the bigot brigade online (this can be checked at his facebook) or in real life (acc. to one victim’s brother and another witness); he was seen as a menace by all neighbors; he had huge anger issues esp. in regard to parking and noise; he was a bit of a gun nut; and he was a weirdo who used to watch and re-watch “Falling Down”.

There’s still the fact that he shot specifically Muslims, and since we can’t get into his head, it is possible that there was an ideological motive on top of all that. But so far it does seem to be as the police says.

294 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 11, 2015 3:32:43pm

Awaiting statement from Senator Cruz* demanding her immediate deportment in 5, 4, 3, 2…

Oh wait. She’s not brown.

Never mind.
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* - Substitute Texas immigration blowhard of your choice.

295 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 3:33:34pm

re: #286 A Cranky One

He does, however, need a good brushing ;)

He’s had a few! With a furminator! But he needs a bath. Was waiting until the flea drops soaked in.

296 BeachDem  Feb 11, 2015 3:33:38pm

re: #263 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I thought about that movie.

My brother-in-law and I argue about that movie all the time. He thinks it’s funny and I thought it was appalling, and that Michael Douglas was an ass to have made it. I remember seeing it in a theater and cringing when the asswipes in the audience applauded throughout. (And I always contend that if it had not had an A-list star, it probably would have gone straight to video.)

I swore I would never pay to see another Michael Douglas movie, and I haven’t!

297 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 3:34:06pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

Awww, thanks for that! starred and favorited!

298 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 3:34:50pm

re: #296 BeachDem

My brother-in-law and I argue about that movie all the time. He thinks it’s funny and I thought it was appalling, and that Michael Douglas was an ass to have made it. I remember seeing it in a theater and cringing when the asswipes in the audience applauded throughout. (And I always contend that if it had not had an A-list star, it probably would have gone straight to video.)

I swore I would never pay to see another Michael Douglas movie, and I haven’t!

I saw that movie in the theatre, and I walked out with the biggest WTF look on my face. It wasn’t even a dark comedy. It was just dark.

299 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 11, 2015 3:35:09pm

re: #272 Ace-o-aces

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Wait, is he trying to justify the shootings now?

He’s trolling.

300 Timothy Watson  Feb 11, 2015 3:36:36pm

re: #296 BeachDem

My brother-in-law and I argue about that movie all the time. He thinks it’s funny and I thought it was appalling, and that Michael Douglas was an ass to have made it. I remember seeing it in a theater and cringing when the asswipes in the audience applauded throughout. (And I always contend that if it had not had an A-list star, it probably would have gone straight to video.)

I swore I would never pay to see another Michael Douglas movie, and I haven’t!

Never seen the movie myself, but from the plot synopsis online, isn’t the movie mocking Douglas’s character?

301 BeachDem  Feb 11, 2015 3:39:57pm

re: #298 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I saw that movie in the theatre, and I walked out with the biggest WTF look on my face. It wasn’t even a dark comedy. It was just dark.

And, if I remember correctly (haven’t seen it since), they tried to mitigate it/make you feel sorry for him in the end by him having a toy gun or something.

302 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:40:37pm

The sin of that movie is that its witty social commentary comes from a cold-blooded murderer.

…

A newer version of this is God Bless America, which is pretty awful, esp. as it supposedly comes from the left.

303 BeachDem  Feb 11, 2015 3:42:01pm

re: #300 Timothy Watson

Never seen the movie myself, but from the plot synopsis online, isn’t the movie mocking Douglas’s character?

That might have been the original intent of the writers, but, at least when I saw it, the theater audience was all “Yeah! Good stuff! I’d love to shoot up a fast food place or a Korean grocery for pissing me off!”

304 A Cranky One  Feb 11, 2015 3:42:48pm

re: #295 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

He’s had a few! With a furminator! But he needs a bath. Was waiting until the flea drops soaked in.

Yah, our Cairns get a bit wild looking when their fur gets long. I think they are going for the Wookie look ;)

Love the photo. You can see the happiness and love in his eyes.

305 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 3:45:10pm

re: #304 A Cranky One

Yah, our Cairns get a bit wild looking when their fur gets long. I think they are going for the Wookie look ;)

Love the photo. You can see the happiness and love in his eyes.

Yeah, I like the shaggy look, although keeping the spare hair to a minimum. I’d like to trim the hair over his eyes at some point soon, but I’m light in the wallet at the moment.

Edit: I thought he was going to stroke out when I came home after work today, jumping all over me and smiling (dogs do smile!) and everything. Great dog, and we were fortunate to find him, as much as he found us. :)

306 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 3:48:15pm

re: #297 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Awww, thanks for that! starred and favorited!

My pleasure! :D

307 goddamnedfrank  Feb 11, 2015 3:49:01pm

re: #296 BeachDem

My brother-in-law and I argue about that movie all the time. He thinks it’s funny and I thought it was appalling, and that Michael Douglas was an ass to have made it. I remember seeing it in a theater and cringing when the asswipes in the audience applauded throughout. (And I always contend that if it had not had an A-list star, it probably would have gone straight to video.)

I swore I would never pay to see another Michael Douglas movie, and I haven’t!

I thought it was a decent film, but not at all funny. Douglas’s character is deeply fucked up and the story doesn’t really try to justify his behavior in any way. If anything I think it’s about the dysfunctional nature of our society and the toxic pathology that can develop when the myth of masculinity crashes into modern reality.

The scene where he murders the Neo Nazi surplus store owner is the kicker. You can read it as him rejecting the comparison, I see it as him reacting violently to the truth of it, the murder is a form of denial. They really aren’t that different, they’re both on the same, sick antisocial spectrum.

308 Mike Lamb  Feb 11, 2015 3:49:14pm

re: #299 Feline Fearless Leader

He’s trolling.

Sure. But could you ever make a comment like that for any reason?

309 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 11, 2015 3:49:52pm

Another interesting note about the movie:

Michael Douglas considers this his favorite performance of all the movies he has been in.

310 iossarian  Feb 11, 2015 3:51:56pm

re: #307 goddamnedfrank

I thought it was a decent film, but not at all funny. Douglas’s character is deeply fucked up and the story doesn’t really try to justify his behavior in any way. If anything I think it’s about the dysfunctional nature of our society and the toxic pathology that can develop when the myth of masculinity crashes into modern reality.

The scene where he murders the Neo Nazi surplus store owner is the kicker. You can read it as him rejecting the comparison, I see it as him reacting violently to the truth of it, the murder is a form of denial. They really aren’t that different, they’re both on the same, sick antisocial spectrum.

I haven’t seen it for a while - I think I agree with you - thought it was pretty good and thought-provoking, but not “funny” at all. The guy’s clearly a psychotic mess. I’m frankly surprised to hear that people might think he was some kind of positive role model.

311 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 3:52:46pm

re: #310 iossarian

I haven’t seen it for a while - I think I agree with you - thought it was pretty good and thought-provoking, but not “funny” at all. The guy’s clearly a psychotic mess. I’m frankly surprised to hear that people might think he was some kind of positive role model.

Evidently there were a lot of people who thought that.

Scary.

312 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:53:00pm

The lawyer’s resume also reminded me of the film:

“It is a mundane issue of this man being frustrated day in and day out, and unfortunately, these victims were there at the wrong time at the wrong place.”
Read more at wral.com

313 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:53:40pm

“Mundane issue”.

314 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 3:53:48pm
315 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 3:53:53pm

re: #312 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

The lawyer’s resume also reminded me of the film:

Where the “wrong place” is really their own apartment.

316 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 11, 2015 3:54:59pm

re: #310 iossarian

I haven’t seen it for a while - I think I agree with you - thought it was pretty good and thought-provoking, but not “funny” at all. The guy’s clearly a psychotic mess. I’m frankly surprised to hear that people might think he was some kind of positive role model.

Might fit for a number of people as the actual implementation of a fantasy acting out over-the-top reaction to the pet peeves of interacting with the rest of society. All the folk that pissed you off get what is coming - and you are feared as well since you might bring violence down upon them.

317 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 3:55:19pm

re: #297 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Awww, thanks for that! starred and favorited!

Just a heads up…with Murphy’s breed/mix you have to keep those eyes cleaned and have the hairs smoothed away from the eyes. You don’t have to cut or trim the hair, but you do need to keep the hairs from poking into the eyes. Do it every day during cuddle times.

Trust me. Voice of experience here.

318 A Cranky One  Feb 11, 2015 3:55:37pm

re: #256 klys (maker of Silmarils)

LGF is one of the first places I have been on the Internet where the majority of people are willing to respect others’ beliefs and the attitude of “you’re an idiot because you believe x” is remarkably absent. It is one of the major reasons I am willing to stick around for religion discussions here, and their interaction with politics.

I am a firm believer in everyone having the right to believe whatever the hell they want as long as it does not impact others’ lives and rights, and they don’t try to shove my face in it. Atheists can fail that test just as easily as any other group, because people of all types can be assholes.

I totally agree. I joined because of the community; this is the only site where I actually look forward to reading the comments and discussions. Not because I always agree with what is said, but because issues can be discussed in a rational fashion and without the flame wars that characterize many sites. At the same time, I can hear viewpoints from a diverse group of folks.

A more pithy explanation: the lack of total assholes makes the site appealing.

319 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 3:55:41pm

re: #315 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Where the “wrong place” is really their own apartment.

I know. The idea that they were ‘in the wrong place at the wrong time’, like it was a random thing, and not murder.

320 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 3:55:43pm
321 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 3:56:30pm

re: #320 Great White Snark

yay!

322 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 3:57:04pm

You know Ben, there are some “leftists” and “Communists” and secular Jews and even non-Jews who are way better at this “Judaism” Ahavat Yisrael thing than you are.

If you were my son I would so slap you.

323 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 3:57:29pm

re: #320 Great White Snark

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10 meters, that’s a pretty good shot when you’re talking about things falling from the sky.

324 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 3:58:04pm

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just a heads up…with Murphy’s breed/mix you have to keep those eyes cleaned and have the hairs smoothed away from the eyes. You don’t have to cut or trim the hair, but you do need to keep the hairs from poking into the eyes. Do it every day during cuddle times.

Trust me. Voice of experience here.

Thank you for that pro-tip.

325 b_sharp  Feb 11, 2015 3:59:10pm

re: #318 A Cranky One

I totally agree. I joined because of the community; this is the only site where I actually look forward to reading the comments and discussions. Not because I always agree with what is said, but because issues can be discussed in a rational fashion and without the flame wars that characterize many sites. At the same time, I can hear viewpoints from a diverse group of folks.

A more pithy explanation: the lack of total assholes makes the site appealing.

Note to self: Asshole failing. Must try harder

326 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 3:59:27pm

re: #323 thedopefishlives

10 meters, that’s a pretty good shot when you’re talking about things falling from the sky.

“Close” only counts in horseshoes.
And handgrenades.
And nuclear weapons.

327 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 4:00:39pm

re: #215 Blind Frog Belly White

That makes me think of the scene in “Siegfried”, where Siegfried finds Brunnhilde on her rock, surrounded by the fire Wotan put there. He lifts her breastplate and says, “Das is kein Mann!”

As Anna Russel says of Siegfried, “…and he’s very handsome, and he’s very strong, and he’s very stupid.”

Makes me think of the Witch King of Angmar saying “No man can slay me!” and Eowyn removes her helmet and declares “I am no man!”

328 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:01:00pm

re: #318 A Cranky One

A more pithy explanation: the lack of total assholes makes the site appealing.

Charles tends the comment garden very well. And then we won’t put up with shit like that from Kilgore after a while. D_F drives me crazy every once in a while, only because he borders on reason, but then always falls back to Team GOP, but he’s not a one-note symphony.

329 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 4:01:03pm

re: #326 Decatur Deb

“Close” only counts in horseshoes.
And handgrenades.
And nuclear weapons.

Pretty sure the Air Force would be absolutely thrilled with a 10m CEP.

330 stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2015 4:02:41pm

re: #325 b_sharp

Note to self: Asshole failing. Must try harder

LGF does spend more time talking about assholes than any other site I’ve ever visited…

331 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:02:54pm

re: #324 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Thank you for that pro-tip.

Really, it’s a simple thing that should become a daily routine. And it will avoid loads of future eye problems.

332 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 4:03:14pm

re: #330 stpaulbear

LGF does spend more time talking about assholes than any other site I’ve ever visited…

Well, we talk about them a lot, but mostly because we’re laughing at them. And you gotta admit, we absolutely excel at that.

333 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 4:03:16pm

Ouch, we’re getting ready to get an “arctic blast” which will drive temps down into the teens and 20s at night but warming up a bit during the day.

We are, however, spared from being Boston.

334 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:03:19pm

re: #328 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

To expand on that, online commenting in general would be 100 percent better if more sites took the time to interact with their comments and banhammer the assholes who try to disrupt.

335 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 4:03:31pm

re: #329 thedopefishlives

Pretty sure the Air Force would be absolutely thrilled with a 10m CEP.

Yeah, but they want to be able to pick which men’s room stall.

336 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:03:44pm

re: #330 stpaulbear

LGF does spend more time talking about assholes than any other site I’ve ever visited…

LMAO that we are asshole experts…

337 iossarian  Feb 11, 2015 4:03:50pm

re: #322 The Vicious Babushka

You know Ben, there are some “leftists” and “Communists” and secular Jews and even non-Jews who are way better at this “Judaism” Ahavat Yisrael thing than you are.

If you were my son I would so slap you.

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Lol - best part: “Some older Jews remember the bad old days of country-club Republicans.”

You mean those bad old days from last week?

338 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:04:13pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really, it’s a simple thing that should become a daily routine. And it will avoid loads of future eye problems.

What do you use to keep the eyes clean, anything special? wipes? Any help is appreciated.

339 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 4:04:19pm

re: #322 The Vicious Babushka

Bryan Fischer couldn’t have said it better. ///

340 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:05:09pm

re: #333 Justanotherhuman

Ouch, we’re getting ready to get an “arctic blast” which will drive temps down into the teens and 20s at night but warming up a bit during the day.

We are, however, spared from being Boston.

I have single digits in the forecast for this weekend, and windchills in the minus range.

That damned groundhog…

341 Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2015 4:05:22pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

LMAO that we are asshole experts…

Assholologists.

342 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 11, 2015 4:05:38pm

re: #330 stpaulbear

LGF does spend more time talking about assholes than any other site I’ve ever visited…

Hey at least we’re talking about assholes as opposed to being assholes.

343 TedStriker  Feb 11, 2015 4:05:58pm

re: #256 klys (maker of Silmarils)

LGF is one of the first places I have been on the Internet where the majority of people are willing to respect others’ beliefs and the attitude of “you’re an idiot because you believe x” is remarkably absent. It is one of the major reasons I am willing to stick around for religion discussions here, and their interaction with politics.

I am a firm believer in everyone having the right to believe whatever the hell they want as long as it does not impact others’ lives and rights, and they don’t try to shove my face in it. Atheists can fail that test just as easily as any other group, because people of all types can be assholes.

re: #318 A Cranky One

I totally agree. I joined because of the community; this is the only site where I actually look forward to reading the comments and discussions. Not because I always agree with what is said, but because issues can be discussed in a rational fashion and without the flame wars that characterize many sites. At the same time, I can hear viewpoints from a diverse group of folks.

A more pithy explanation: the lack of total assholes makes the site appealing.

We really are spoiled here, you know.

LGF is an island in a huge river of shit…

344 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 4:06:30pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have single digits in the forecast for this weekend, and windchills in the minus range.

That damned groundhog…

I heard a police department up in New Hampshire has issued a warrant for his arrest.

345 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 4:06:47pm

re: #343 TedStriker

We really are spoiled here, you know.

LGF is an island in a huge river of shit…

Occasionally I make the mistake of reading the comments elsewhere.

It does help appreciate what we have.

346 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 4:06:49pm

re: #341 Charles Johnson

Assholologists.

Online proctologists.

347 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 4:06:49pm

re: #341 Charles Johnson

Assholologists.

Speaking of which, my copy of Popular Proctology is late . Prod the mailroom hamsters.

348 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 11, 2015 4:07:08pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have single digits in the forecast for this weekend, and windchills in the minus range.

That damned groundhog…

…

349 Ace-o-aces  Feb 11, 2015 4:07:39pm

In Ben’s defense, they hide that kind of information in books.

350 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:07:39pm

re: #343 TedStriker

We really are spoiled here, you know.

LGF is an island in a huge river of shit…

I can count on one hand the number of places I can engage in reasonable comments, including this one, without having to dig through the shit to find nuggets of gold. And one of those is a car blog, and I have the most beige car around.

351 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 4:08:00pm
352 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:08:38pm

re: #338 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

What do you use to keep the eyes clean, anything special? wipes? Any help is appreciated.

I use cotton rounds and a borax eyewash solution when things start to look iffy, otherwise, just cotton rounds and warm distilled water.
FWIW, the borax eyewash solution is soothing to itchy eyes. Pretty similar to contact lens solution, but specifically for eyewashing.

353 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 4:08:53pm

re: #350 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I can count on one hand the number of places I can engage in reasonable comments, including this one, without having to dig through the shit to find nuggets of gold. And one of those is a car blog, and I have the most beige car around.

We probably have better pie here though.

(TOMORROW IS PIE DAY!)

354 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 4:10:43pm

re: #353 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We probably have better pie here though.

(TOMORROW IS PIE DAY!)

The rest of the week is looking up. Tomorrow is Pie Day, the night after is date night, and then Valentine’s Day. Yes, I’m a romantic sap.

355 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:10:56pm

re: #353 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We probably have better pie here though.

(TOMORROW IS PIE DAY!)

That’s like a law of the interverse.

356 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 4:11:40pm

re: #349 Ace-o-aces

Lake Placid remains one of my favorite bad movies just because of Oliver Platt and that line:

Sheriff Hank Keough: “I… I… I never heard of a crocodile crossing an ocean.”

Hector Cyr: “Well, they conceal information like that in books.”

357 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 4:12:01pm

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358 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 4:12:22pm

re: #354 thedopefishlives

Oh, and Friday is also payday. Just doesn’t get any better than that.

359 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 11, 2015 4:12:39pm

re: #357 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

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fargo, north dakota, in 1942

360 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 4:14:28pm

I’m always amused to see what folks think is worth a downding.

361 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 11, 2015 4:15:30pm

re: #354 thedopefishlives

The rest of the week is looking up. Tomorrow is Pie Day, the night after is date night, and then Valentine’s Day. Yes, I’m a romantic sap.

Sounds like you have good weather for ice skating as well.

362 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 11, 2015 4:15:32pm

re: #263 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I thought about that movie.

very creepy that there is a movie with a fan base apparently of sociopaths

363 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:15:34pm

364 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:16:01pm

On the subject of movies, has anyone seen “Horns” starring Harry Potter? I watched it last night on Netflix. Very weird.

365 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 4:16:52pm

re: #361 Feline Fearless Leader

Sounds like you have good weather for ice skating as well.

Who would be nucking futs enough to go ice skating in that kind of cold? Although I suppose today would’ve been a good day to strap on a pair of skis and a parachute and ride the breeze across the lake.

366 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 4:17:13pm

re: #364 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

On the subject of movies, has anyone seen “Horns” starring Harry Potter? I watched it last night. Very weird.

Nice but forgettable.

367 Ace-o-aces  Feb 11, 2015 4:17:15pm

By Ben’s definition, most Israelis are not really Jewish.

368 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 4:17:35pm

re: #364 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Seen Nightcrawler?

369 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 4:18:25pm

re: #365 thedopefishlives

Sounds really fun but unless you figured out how to tack in a parachute, that sounds like a fun ride then a long walk back.

370 Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2015 4:19:00pm
371 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 4:19:00pm

re: #369 Great White Snark

Sounds really fun but unless you figured out how to tack in a parachute, that sounds like a fun ride then a long walk back.

Perhaps, but it makes for a nice fuel-efficient way to get home from work.

372 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 4:19:34pm

re: #367 Ace-o-aces

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By Ben’s definition, most Israelis are not really Jewish.

The IDF has openly gay soldiers.

373 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 4:19:40pm

re: #370 Charles Johnson

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It just goes back to what I said a few nights ago about wingnut humor.

374 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:20:03pm

WTF?

375 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:20:24pm

re: #366 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Yeah, it wasn’t something that was going to stick with me. Just weird.re: #368 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Have not yet. Will put it on my to-watch list.

376 Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2015 4:20:30pm
377 Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2015 4:21:03pm
378 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:21:27pm

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

I swear he wakes up and pours himself a tall glass of the cheapest gin he can buy before he waddles down to mom’s basement to begin his day on the Twitters.

379 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:21:50pm

DF needs to defend his great state:

380 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 11, 2015 4:21:53pm

re: #367 Ace-o-aces

By Ben’s definition, most Israelis are not really Jewish.

That’s a feature, not a bug.

381 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:22:13pm

re: #377 Charles Johnson

Beaten by 21 seconds!

382 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 4:22:27pm

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

WTF?

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I … I …

*flips desk, lights on fire*

383 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 4:22:52pm

re: #369 Great White Snark

Sounds really fun but unless you figured out how to tack in a parachute, that sounds like a fun ride then a long walk back.

…

384 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:22:54pm

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clearly, UpChuck has never been to Southern Illinois. (says the guy who lives in Central Illinois).

385 Amory Blaine  Feb 11, 2015 4:23:02pm

Walker is Unintimidated!! Only when he’s bullying kindergarten teachers.

386 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 4:23:18pm

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

The ironic thing here is that the perp thinks of himself as an anti-racist.

387 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 11, 2015 4:23:31pm

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

WTF?

i think der chuck will never be as obnoxious as ann coulter no matter how hard he tries to match her in the preadolescent humor dept

388 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 11, 2015 4:24:23pm

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

blue state Illinois

well indiana the biggest klan state is close by

389 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:24:34pm

re: #384 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Clearly, UpChuck has never been to Southern Illinois. (says the guy who lives in Central Illinois).

Clearly Chuck seems to think that Chicago/Cook County is the entire State of Illinois.
I lived in Will County, sharing a southern Cook County border, for almost 20 years. Not a whole lot of blue there.

390 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 4:25:10pm
391 Timothy Watson  Feb 11, 2015 4:25:59pm

re: #367 Ace-o-aces

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By Ben’s definition, most Israelis are not really Jewish.

I can’t believe that little twerp is 31.

392 A Cranky One  Feb 11, 2015 4:26:13pm

re: #325 b_sharp

Note to self: Asshole failing. Must try harder

Hate to disappoint you, but even with constant practice you’ll never be able to achieve the level of complete assholeness that CCJ, Ben Shapiro,
Bryan Fischer, etc. can achieve. Some things require a natural talent ;)

393 Kragar  Feb 11, 2015 4:26:20pm
394 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:27:25pm

No idea where the stats come from, but yowser!

395 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:27:31pm

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clearly Chuck seems to think that Chicago/Cook County is the entire State of Illinois.
I lived in Will County, sharing a southern Cook County border, for almost 20 years. Not a whole lot of blue there.

Yeah, I wasn’t even going into the ring counties. Look at a map from either of Obama’s elections. I have dipshit red motherfuckers representing me all the way to East St. Louis.

396 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:30:01pm

re: #395 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Yeah, I wasn’t even going into the ring counties. Look at a map from either of Obama’s elections. I have dipshit red motherfuckers representing me all the way to East St. Louis.

And the further you head downstate and west, the worse the gerrymandering gets in favor of the GOP.

397 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 4:30:36pm

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

Incredible that so many are seen as the ‘enemy’.

398 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:31:30pm

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

And the further you head downstate and west, the worse the gerrymandering gets in favor of the GOP.

I have always blamed it on the fact that, if you look at downstate, it’s about on the same latitude as Tennessee. Which would explain a lot. The western side? They’re basically Iowans ;)

399 TedStriker  Feb 11, 2015 4:31:40pm

re: #378 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I swear he wakes up and pours himself a tall glass of the cheapest gin he can buy before he waddles down to mom’s M-I-L’s basement to begin his day on the Twitters.

FTFY…

400 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 4:32:48pm

Bubblehead & other frmr Navy people-Way OT but just wanna say I’m really glad it’s the US Navy with this little trick. They figured out how to use the Tomahawk missile against ships on the move. Amazing video. Article says they did this years before but the missile would get too far beyond target surveillance range and could hit a neutral or friendly ship. Solved. A 1000 nautical mile extension to the hitting range of our guided missile destroyer class ships. Notice how the pieces keep bouncing along on the water after the blow through hit.

Video

news.usni.org

401 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:33:04pm

re: #399 TedStriker

I will agree to the amendment as offered ;)

402 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:33:20pm

re: #398 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I have always blamed it on the fact that, if you look at downstate, it’s about on the same latitude as Tennessee. Which would explain a lot. The western side? They’re basically Iowans ;)

Straight south Illinois is also a lot in common with western Kentucky…a totally different place from eastern Kentucky.

403 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:34:15pm

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

Straight south Illinois is also a lot in common with western Kentucky…a totally different place from eastern Kentucky.

There’s a reason the Juggalos gather there. Eastern Ky. is more Appalachian, imho, which is a whole different set of weird.

404 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 4:34:47pm

Would someone educate me about why fishing is done in such treacherous circumstances?

U.S., NEW ZEALAND LEAD ANTARCTIC RESCUE MISSION

uscgnews.com

405 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 4:35:44pm

re: #404 Justanotherhuman

Would someone educate me about why fishing is done in such treacherous circumstances?

U.S., NEW ZEALAND LEAD ANTARCTIC RESCUE MISSION

uscgnews.com

Overfishing in more temperate regions.

406 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:36:16pm

re: #400 Great White Snark

Did you see the Navy’s big Rail Gun?
The Navy’s Gigantic Railgun Is Almost Ready For Prime Time

407 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 4:37:26pm

re: #405 The Vicious Babushka

Overfishing in more temperate regions.

OK, the pay would never be enough.

408 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 4:38:42pm

US officials: Closure of embassy in Yemen forces CIA to scale back counterterrorism presence - @washingtonpost
read more on washingtonpost.com

409 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:38:45pm

re: #405 The Vicious Babushka

Overfishing in more temperate regions.

Or they’re looking for arctic fish. I saw one episode of that Alaska fishing show and I was “NOPE!”

410 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 4:39:44pm

This is fucking crazy. We are smack in the middle of the biggest fresh water supply on earth.

411 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 4:40:13pm

re: #409 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Or they’re looking for arctic fish. I saw one episode of that Alaska fishing show and I was “NOPE!”

I just went through my mail for the past two months today, and in one of my alumni pleas-for-money, the featured student researcher was talking about the fact that the fish around the Antarctic are one of the few remaining areas that has not been decimated by overfishing (yet).

412 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:43:38pm

re: #403 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

There’s a reason the Juggalos gather there. Eastern Ky. is more Appalachian, imho, which is a whole different set of weird.

Totally different set of weird, indeed.

413 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 4:44:38pm

Hat tip to Gus, this made me laugh.

414 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:44:39pm

re: #404 Justanotherhuman

Would someone educate me about why fishing is done in such treacherous circumstances?

U.S., NEW ZEALAND LEAD ANTARCTIC RESCUE MISSION

uscgnews.com

No different from fishing/crabbing in the Bering Sea in the middle of freakin winter storms.
$$$$$

415 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:45:21pm

re: #410 The Vicious Babushka

This is fucking crazy. We are smack in the middle of the biggest fresh water supply on earth.

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People can just take their pails to the lakefront!!11111!!!!!!!!

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416 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 4:46:06pm

re: #406 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Did you see the Navy’s big Rail Gun?
The Navy’s Gigantic Railgun Is Almost Ready For Prime Time

Complete blue water dominance is still policy. Many might debate the wisdom but that’s the deal. Honestly between these programs, laser and the overlapping hypersonic programs someone I think at the Joint Chiefs/SecDef has a long range post nuclear strategic ideal.

Then I read up on the long term (2025) proposals for a complete rebuild of the silos, a nice new warhead with shiny new dial a boom features ⸮, and the pilot optional long range stealth bomber… I just thought holy crap do we have to do all this just to defend ourselves?

417 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 4:46:38pm

re: #411 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I just went through my mail for the past two months today, and in one of my alumni pleas-for-money, the featured student researcher was talking about the fact that the fish around the Antarctic are one of the few remaining areas that has not been decimated by overfishing (yet).

Some fish…

Human Impacts on Antarctica and Threats to the Environment
- Fishing

ww.coolantarctica.com

418 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 4:46:55pm

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

People can just take their pails to the lakefront!!11111!!!!!!!!

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HURR HURR FREE MARKET WILL BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE!!!!! DEMOCRATS RUINED DETROIT!!!!!!

420 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 4:48:07pm

I pay about $60/mo for water/sewage. How does that compare to you folk in drought-ravaged California.

421 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 4:48:28pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm and so forth. : )

422 Amory Blaine  Feb 11, 2015 4:50:42pm

Heh. Got this over at Cognitive Dissidence, Capper writes over there too.

423 BillinGlendaleCA  Feb 11, 2015 4:51:33pm

re: #420 The Vicious Babushka

Pretty inexpensive, though water use here generally varies by the season(of course).

424 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 4:52:38pm

re: #420 The Vicious Babushka

I think you got a better deal. $4.68 to $6.02 per HCF water dunno sewer. $.24 to $.40 or so per kilowatt in electricity.

425 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:53:31pm

re: #420 The Vicious Babushka

I pay about $20, but I’m not in a major metro area.

426 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2015 4:54:16pm

Oh man, not for the kosher/halal Lizards, but I just pulled out a recipe for warm bacon and herb coleslaw. MMMMMMM.

427 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 4:54:22pm

re: #400 Great White Snark

Bubblehead & other frmr Navy people-Way OT but just wanna say I’m really glad it’s the US Navy with this little trick. They figured out how to use the Tomahawk missile against ships on the move. Amazing video. Article says they did this years before but the missile would get too far beyond target surveillance range and could hit a neutral or friendly ship. Solved. A 1000 nautical mile extension to the hitting range of our guided missile destroyer class ships. Notice how the pieces keep bouncing along on the water after the blow through hit.

[Embedded content]

Video

news.usni.org

Meh. If you have to stand off 1000 NM to shoot your target, your doing it wrong. This is the proper way to do it.

…

428 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 4:54:27pm

re: #420 The Vicious Babushka

I pay about $60/mo for water/sewage. How does that compare to you folk in drought-ravaged California.

For comparison, here in the wild north country, our average usage has been around $40/mo. Although last month’s was closer to $60 for some reason - above-average usage, but uncertain as to why.

429 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:54:35pm

I think I get fucked on Electricity and Gas, though, since it comes from the same company (Ameren). At least I don’t have to buy heating oil.

430 Egregious Philbin  Feb 11, 2015 4:56:02pm

re: #264 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Nice looking dog. I am on my second Irish Terrier(ist). Wonderful dogs, the males can be psycho, but my female is so un terrier, she listens, can go off the leash, doesn’t start fights at the dog park… (and she is a rescue dog!)

431 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 11, 2015 4:56:58pm

the weed of the day is taj weed

432 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 4:57:44pm

re: #430 Egregious Philbin

Nice looking dog. I am on my second Irish Terrier(ist). Wonderful dogs, the males can be psycho, but my female is so un terrier, she listens, can go off the leash, doesn’t start fights at the dog park…

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Holy shit! That almost looks like Murphy to a tee! None of the Irish Terriers I saw on Google Images looked like him at all, but that looks pretty close, except with a hairdo ;)

433 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 4:58:08pm

re: #416 Great White Snark

Complete blue water dominance is still policy. Many might debate the wisdom but that’s the deal. Honestly between these programs, laser and the overlapping hypersonic programs someone I think at the Joint Chiefs/SecDef has a long range post nuclear strategic ideal.

Then I read up on the long term (2025) proposals for a complete rebuild of the silos, a nice new warhead with shiny new dial a boom features ⸮, and the pilot optional long range stealth bomber… I just thought holy crap do we have to do all this just to defend ourselves?

“There were those of us who fought against this. But in the end, we could not keep up with the expense involved in the arms race, the space race, and the peace race. And at the same time, our people grumbled for more nylons and washing machines. Our Doomsday scheme cost us just a small fraction of what we’d been spending on defense in a single year. But the deciding factor was when we learned that your country was working along similar lines, and we were afraid of a Doomsday gap.”

434 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 4:58:31pm
435 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 4:58:35pm

Damn, those talks are taking forever.

436 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 4:59:27pm

re: #434 The Vicious Babushka

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What in the living hell.

437 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 4:59:47pm

re: #427 Bubblehead II

Now, now you submariners want to have all the fun.

438 Amory Blaine  Feb 11, 2015 4:59:51pm

I mentioned the other day my high risk sister in law had to have surgery because of uterine cancer. She pulled through and is looking better and better. Yay!!

439 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 4:59:52pm

jeebus…Roseanne Barr is on a tear today wanting to nuke UC Davis and all non-Jews.

O_o

440 Egregious Philbin  Feb 11, 2015 5:00:04pm

re: #432 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Yeah, my first one was an uncut male, and he would start fights with any pug, boxer, etc..the scrunched face made him want to fight. I had another male for 10 days to try to find him a home, but he was nuts, his owner had alzheimers, and the dog had no rules, he even bit me… My female, Veruca would have none of that, she detested him. You are in for an adventure with that dog…

441 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 5:00:06pm

re: #438 Amory Blaine

I mentioned the other day my high risk sister in law had to have surgery because of uterine cancer. She pulled through and is looking better and better. Yay!!

Wonderful news!

442 darthstar  Feb 11, 2015 5:00:32pm

re: #168 darthstar

Hey Charles - I just “reported” a post of mine from last year…can you delete it? Asking for a person I quoted who is apparently having problems with the tiny-dicked Todd Kincannon.

Yeah…the guy retweeted a link to Kincannon’s dick-pic selfie and it’s causing him some professional grief. I’m a firm believer in letting something like that go down the toilet rather than impacting someone’s real career.

443 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:01:08pm

re: #435 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

It’s 4 AM in Moscow and an official said they’ll go on for 5-6 hours more. I guess until everyone is asleep in their chairs.

444 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 5:01:16pm

re: #434 The Vicious Babushka

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Pffft. UPS can deliver a baby anywhere in Alabama overnight.

445 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 5:01:41pm

Did this character work as irony rather than sarc? ⸮

446 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 11, 2015 5:02:21pm

do any muslim lizards know if the tajweed rules for pronouncing ‘L’ (before “solar” letters vs “lunar” letters) and ‘N’ are used in everyday arabic?

447 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:02:47pm

re: #445 Great White Snark

Did this character work as irony rather than sarc? ⸮

What character?

448 PhillyPretzel  Feb 11, 2015 5:03:15pm

re: #445 Great White Snark

lets stick with the “/” That I understand.

449 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 5:03:52pm

re: #440 Egregious Philbin

Yeah, my first one was an uncut male, and he would start fights with any pug, boxer, etc..the scrunched face made him want to fight. I had another male for 10 days to try to find him a home, but he was nuts, his owner had alzheimers, and the dog had no rules, he even bit me… My female, Veruca would have none of that, she detested him. You are in for an adventure with that dog…

This one was fixed from the get go. They won’t let them out of the shelter w/o it. His body language around other animals has generally been friendly, even though he’ll bark (about the only time he’ll bark!).

Interestingly, he was the only “small” dog in the pens. All the others were pit bulls, a few lab mixes and an akita/pug mix (WTF?). He was the only one who paid attention to us when we took him out on the leash. All the others just wanted to say “Fuck you” to the other dogs. lol.

He likes to run. I want to get him off the leash outside, but need to find the right place.

450 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 5:04:03pm

re: #447 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

That backward question mark. ⸮ ⸮

451 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:04:21pm

re: #450 Great White Snark

That backward question mark. ⸮ ⸮

I see 2 squares.

452 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 5:04:52pm

Nothin’ but squares…

453 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 5:05:40pm

re: #448 PhillyPretzel

Fair enough. Just did not see how to break out the one line that way well. I had gotten the character here.

454 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 5:06:08pm

re: #450 Great White Snark

That backward question mark. ⸮ ⸮

Oh, don’t go there off the U.S. font grid!

455 Egregious Philbin  Feb 11, 2015 5:06:09pm

re: #449 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

This was my male, as a pup.

456 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 11, 2015 5:07:26pm

re: #450 Great White Snark

That backward question mark. ⸮ ⸮

i see double doors in a chinese house

457 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 5:07:38pm

re: #455 Egregious Philbin

Really close in the face, but Murphy’s isn’t as long. I know he’s rambunctious, and loves to play. We’ll see. I am looking forward to the adventure :)

458 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:07:58pm

re: #456 dog philosopher

i see double doors in a chinese house

Bollocks. It’s a Korean house.

459 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 5:08:36pm

re: #454 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Oh, don’t go there off the U.S. font grid!

Oh right that’s it. Ah well I suppose there is a tag for it but nevamind. Oops.

Little distracted my space bar is going out. I have to hit it pretty hard to type a space. So off to my subterranean commute for now.

460 A Cranky One  Feb 11, 2015 5:09:51pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

…

Moreover, asking about evolution in American politics today is less about science and more about factional identification. “Do you believe in evolution?” really means “Do you believe in a particular worldview?”

I do believe in evolution, btw. But in politics, matters relating to evolution are a strange game and Scott Walker made the only logical move by refusing to play.

Waited to respond to this in hopes that Dark will actually see it.

You say the question is really “Do you believe in a particular worldview?”
No, the question is really whether they accept the answers that science has provided. This isn’t a question of belief/opinion, it’s a question about accepting reality. The right wing has tried to define science as another religion in attempts to justify their refusal to accept simple facts.

When the RWs deny evolution, climate change, etc., they are saying that they prefer to live in an imaginary world rather than the real one. So I’ll ask you: should policy decisions be made using the best evidence and tools available or should they be based on someone’s belief system that ignores evidence?

Will denial of the reality of climate change keep coastal cities from flooding? Will denial of evolution keep bacteria from mutating to antibiotic resistant strains? You really want policy to be based on someone’s specific religious beliefs or greed rather than facts, evidence and experience?

I don’t! And this isn’t tribalism, but rather dealing with things as they are as opposed to how I’d like them to be.

461 Egregious Philbin  Feb 11, 2015 5:09:52pm

Yeah, my male was long and thin and had lots of instinct. He regularly found and killed roof rats and gophers. The female is a lover, she just wants to obey and have fun, but if you play rough with her, she will get just a tiny bit bitey, then she walks away and acts out on a toy. Irish terriers have long bodies and high legs, they get that from the Irish Wolfhound.

462 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 11, 2015 5:12:26pm

Celebrating: my wife passed her comps and she now has a Master’s in Public Administration.

463 thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2015 5:12:53pm

re: #462 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Celebrating: my wife passed her comps and she now has a Master’s in Public Administration.

Congratulations to your missus.

464 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 5:12:54pm

re: #437 Great White Snark

Now, now you submariners want to have all the fun.

Of course.

465 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2015 5:14:16pm

re: #464 Bubblehead II

Of course.

Hey, do you pronounce it ‘subMARiners’, or ‘submaREENers’?

466 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 5:14:52pm

re: #465 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, do you pronounce it ‘subMARiners’, or ‘submaREENers’?

doesn’t matter…it’s still a massive sammich…

467 BeachDem  Feb 11, 2015 5:15:08pm

Because Georgia doesn’t have any other problems to deal with:

A Georgia Republican legislator introduced a bill he said would ban the mixing of human and jellyfish embryos… “I’ve had people tell me it is but I have not verified that for sure,” state Rep. Tom Kirby (R) told WSB-TV. “It’s time we either get in front of it or we’re going to be chasing our tails.”

rawstory.com

468 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 5:16:05pm

Koch Brothers are really, really, really against any infrastructure projects.
HURR HURR TEH ROADS WILL BUILD THEMSELVES!!!!11!!!

469 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 5:16:24pm

re: #467 BeachDem

Because Georgia doesn’t have any other problems to deal with:

A Georgia Republican legislator introduced a bill he said would ban the mixing of human and jellyfish embryos… “I’ve had people tell me it is but I have not verified that for sure,” state Rep. Tom Kirby (R) told WSB-TV. “It’s time we either get in front of it or we’re going to be chasing our tails.”

rawstory.com

Hasn’t verified it but HEY! lemme submit a bill for that…

spit.

470 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 5:16:57pm

re: #461 Egregious Philbin

Yeah, my male was long and thin and had lots of instinct. He regularly found and killed roof rats and gophers. The female is a lover, she just wants to obey and have fun, but if you play rough with her, she will get just a tiny bit bitey, then she walks away and acts out on a toy. Irish terriers have long bodies and high legs, they get that from the Irish Wolfhound.

This guy is so loving (so far). He’s torn up some toys already, but he really wants to be petted. He will lay by your side all night, walk with you, run and play fetch, ask to go outside, the whole nine yards. He did “gently” bite my SO on the behind last night because she wasn’t paying attention to him (lol), but licks all the faces he can find. I hope he doesn’t grow up to be an asshole.

Now that I’m looking at the images, it seems right. He looks Irish Terrier in a way, but his coat is more blonde and not so red - if that makes sense.

471 wrenchwench  Feb 11, 2015 5:17:31pm
472 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 5:18:16pm

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

Koch Brothers are really, really, really against any infrastructure projects.
HURR HURR TEH ROADS WILL BUILD THEMSELVES!!!!11!!!

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funny thing about that:

Lower gas prices mean happier consumers, however, the lower prices also mean a reduction in state funding to counties for road projects and repairs.

Counties across the commonwealth are facing the same issue of reduced funds from the state’s gasoline tax. Revenues from the tax have taken a hit since wholesale and prices at the pump have dropped in recent months.

Counties preparing for loss of road funds

473 stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2015 5:18:21pm

re: #467 BeachDem

Now we know why Walker wouldn’t answer the question.

474 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 5:18:22pm

re: #465 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, do you pronounce it ‘subMARiners’, or ‘submaREENers’?

See bolded

475 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 5:18:50pm

Shit, this is exactly like Murphy:
…

476 Egregious Philbin  Feb 11, 2015 5:19:50pm

re: #470 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Read up on the breed, they can be very stubborn, as terriers are, but they are intensely loyal dogs, and they have earned their nickname of “daredevil”, they are very fearless, not always a good thing though…

It is a fairly rare breed, didn’t used to be, in the early 1900’s it was a very popular breed, one of the Presidents had one. Thankfully, they do not do well in puppy farms, and the breeders have been very strict with breeding, so there are no serious health issues attributed to the breed.

477 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:20:11pm

Fake ex-terrorist says:

478 bratwurst  Feb 11, 2015 5:20:54pm

I stopped subscribing to The Atlantic due to the facts they refuse to acknowledge they sold subscriber info to third party subscription services and they were only in retrospect able to see the problem with turning over a piece of their website to Scientology . Even so, I still follow them on Twitter to remind myself I am not missing anything. Usually those moments come when I see David Frum’s latest idiocy, but not this time…

Give me a fucking break.

479 b_sharp  Feb 11, 2015 5:21:12pm

re: #342 Eclectic Cyborg

Hey at least we’re talking about assholes as opposed to being assholes.

You gotta be one to know one.

480 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 5:21:54pm

re: #476 Egregious Philbin

Read up on the breed, they can be very stubborn, as terriers are, but they are intensely loyal dogs, and they have earned their nickname of “daredevil”, they are very fearless, not always a good thing though…

It is a fairly rare breed, didn’t used to be, in the early 1900’s it was a very popular breed, one of the Presidents had one. Thankfully, they do not do well in puppy farms, and the breeders have been very strict with breeding, so there are no serious health issues attributed to the breed.

I’ve already seen a bit of stubbornness, but I’m waiting for the cats to slap the shit out of him with their claws, even if he just seems to want to play.

481 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 11, 2015 5:22:19pm

Going topside

482 b_sharp  Feb 11, 2015 5:25:19pm

re: #356 Kragar

Lake Placid remains one of my favorite bad movies just because of Oliver Platt and that line:

Sheriff Hank Keough: “I… I… I never heard of a crocodile crossing an ocean.”

Hector Cyr: “Well, they conceal information like that in books.”

Love that movie.

“He seemed… taller.”

483 b_sharp  Feb 11, 2015 5:25:55pm

re: #357 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

3.1415926535 8979323846 2643383279 5028841971 6939937510 5820974944 5923078164 0628620899 8628034825 3421170679 8214808651 3282306647 0938446095 5058223172 5359408128 4811174502 8410270193 8521105559 6446229489 5493038196 4428810975 6659334461 2847564823 3786783165 2712019091 4564856692 3460348610 4543266482 1339360726 0249141273 7245870066 0631558817 4881520920 9628292540 9171536436 7892590360 0113305305 4882046652 1384146951 9415116094 3305727036 5759591953 0921861173 8193261179 3105118548 0744623799 6274956735 1885752724 8912279381 8301194912 9833673362 4406566430 8602139494 6395224737 1907021798 6094370277 0539217176 2931767523 8467481846 7669405132 0005681271 4526356082 7785771342 7577896091 7363717872 1468440901 2249534301 4654958537 1050792279 6892589235 4201995611 2129021960 8640344181 5981362977 4771309960 5187072113 4999999837 2978049951 0597317328 1609631859 5024459455 3469083026 4252230825 3344685035 2619311881 7101000313 7838752886 5875332083 8142061717 7669147303 5982534904 2875546873 1159562863 8823537875 9375195778 1857780532 1712268066 1300192787 6611195909 2164201989

Can I have a slice?

484 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:26:51pm

re: #483 b_sharp

Can I have a slice?

5187072113 4999999837 2978049951 0597317328 1609631859 5024459455 3469083026 4252230825 3344685035 2619311881 7101000313 7838752886 5875332083 8142061717 7669147303 5982534904 2875546873 1159562863 8823537875 9375195778 1857780532 1712268066 1300192787 6611195909 2164201989

485 TedStriker  Feb 11, 2015 5:27:46pm

re: #420 The Vicious Babushka

I pay about $75/mo for water/sewage. How does that compare to you folk in drought-ravaged California.

Dunno ‘bout CA, but here in Nashville, I just paid about $80-85 combined for water, sewer, and stormwater fees for last month.

486 TedStriker  Feb 11, 2015 5:30:31pm

re: #444 Decatur Deb

Pffft. UPS can deliver a baby anywhere in Alabama overnight.

Hey, what can Brown do for you?

///

487 Dark_Falcon  Feb 11, 2015 5:37:06pm

Deleted. New thread means things have moved on. I’m not a dead-threader.

488 b_sharp  Feb 11, 2015 5:40:07pm

re: #410 The Vicious Babushka

This is fucking crazy. We are smack in the middle of the biggest fresh water supply on earth.

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4th largest.

489 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 5:42:07pm

re: #487 Dark_Falcon

Deleted. New thread means things have moved on. I’m not a dead-threader.

LOL! But of course!

490 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:43:56pm

re: #487 Dark_Falcon

And which ‘atrocities’ do you see being part of US conservatism? Note that restrictions on abortion do not fit the definition of an atrocity as I understand it/

For the record.

491 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2015 5:47:40pm

re: #487 Dark_Falcon

Deleted. New thread means things have moved on. I’m not a dead-threader.

How about responding to all the comments you requested on your earlier drive by posts?

492 b_sharp  Feb 11, 2015 5:49:42pm

re: #484 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

5187072113 4999999837 2978049951 0597317328 1609631859 5024459455 3469083026 4252230825 3344685035 2619311881 7101000313 7838752886 5875332083 8142061717 7669147303 5982534904 2875546873 1159562863 8823537875 9375195778 1857780532 1712268066 1300192787 6611195909 2164201989

Thanks.

493 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 11, 2015 5:52:16pm

re: #487 Dark_Falcon

Deleted. New thread means things have moved on. I’m not a dead-threader.

494 Belafon  Feb 11, 2015 5:55:58pm

re: #376 Charles Johnson

Because there’s always an xkcd.

495 BlueSpotinAL  Feb 11, 2015 5:56:43pm

re: #484 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

5187072113 4999999837 2978049951 0597317328 1609631859 5024459455 3469083026 4252230825 3344685035 2619311881 7101000313 7838752886 5875332083 8142061717 7669147303 5982534904 2875546873 1159562863 8823537875 9375195778 1857780532 1712268066 1300192787 6611195909 2164201989

Technically, any sequence of numbers would be a slice of pi.

496 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 6:01:02pm

re: #495 BlueSpotinAL

I’m not a mathematician, so I have no idea whether pi-sequence, though infinite, is purely random, which seems to be a prerequisite for that. E.g. I have a slight doubt that pi contains exactly 10000000 8s somewhere.

497 BillinGlendaleCA  Feb 11, 2015 6:04:43pm

re: #462 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Congrats to Ms. HBM.

498 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 11, 2015 8:05:45pm

re: #462 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Celebrating: my wife passed her comps and she now has a Master’s in Public Administration.

Have you found her a public to take charge of yet?

499 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 12, 2015 9:26:10am

This Russia/Ukraine “peace” deal is a joke. Putin will just claim he has no control over the “rebels”.


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