Thursday Night Jam: Bob Schneider Bares His Soul: “2002”

Just thought I’d drop you a line
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I don’t know how much of this song is autobiographical, but it has a ring of truth that’s heart-wrenching and undeniable. I was tempted to call it the saddest song I’ve ever heard, but if it is autobiographical, Bob Schneider has pulled up out of that nose dive and built a library of work that’s nothing short of wonderful.

So yeah, it’s sadder than hell. But it’s also a reminder that redemption is always possible, if you want it enough.

This song is on the album Lonelyland.

(The audio track is pretty quiet, so you may want to turn up your speakers.)

The year is 2002
I’m doing exactly what I wanted to
Baby I don’t even think about you anymore

Just thought I’d drop you a line
Let you know I was doing fine
Baby it’s been a long, long time
Since you walked out my door

It took me some time I must confess
For a while there I was feeling less than my best
Had to get out of town so I headed out west
Ended up in Seattle

I thought I’d start a brand new band
Thought I might call it Lonelyland
Things got a little out of hand
Ended up hooked on heroin

So ended up moving back over to Germany
Living with my folks baggin’ groceries
The time I had was mostly free
I spent most of it drinking

Got myself in a jam or two
Guess that’s what I had to do
Late at night I’d still think of you
I felt like I was drowning

Got arrested once, but never convicted
Parents eventually had me evicted
Tried your number, it’d been disconnected
I guess I should’ve known

I heard you got married and you moved away
Called up your folks but where they wouldn’t say
Said it’s probably better that way
So I just let it be

Moved back to Austin ‘bout a year ago
Drive a school bus now I don’t drink no more
Go out every once in a while and see a show
But mostly I just watch TV

So I don’t know where I’m gonna send this letter
I doubt things are ever gonna get much better
Seems like life’s one big whatever
Anyway

Just thought I’d drop you a line
Lie and say I was doin’ fine
‘Cause baby it’s been a long, long time
Since you walked out my door

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358 comments
1 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 19, 2015 8:18:16pm

You know something? When you go out in 10 degree temperatures, and your zipper’s down, you know it right away.

2 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2015 8:19:51pm

Was 2002 really 13 years ago?

Holy Hell where does the time go?

3 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2015 8:20:20pm

re: #1 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

You know something? When you go out in 10 degree temperatures, and your zipper’s down, you know it right away.

Deep Thoughts, by SteveMcGaziBolaGate

4 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Feb 19, 2015 8:24:53pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Was 2002 really 13 years ago?

Holy Hell where does the time go?

I get that a lot. My wife has an appointment book that sort of chronicles our lives. All our trips, the weddings we go to, the baptisms, birthday parties, etc, are in them. Every once in a while I’ll look in an old one and the couple whose wedding we went to (and remember it pretty well) has a kid graduating from high school this spring. Hard to believe all those years went by so fast.

5 Lidane  Feb 19, 2015 8:25:10pm

So the other day, a Travis County judge declared the Texas gay marriage ban unconstitutional. Then, this happened:

6 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 8:27:03pm
7 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2015 8:31:12pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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What, no Gadsden Flag?

8 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 19, 2015 8:37:15pm

So, I notice UpChuck’s piece outing Daniel Gouldman as Icarus Verum is still up, complete with all the anti-Semite accusations. It’s well past the deadline, so I presume Gouldman’s lawyer is on the case.

It might explain why GotNews is so quiet today.

9 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 8:40:02pm

For general use:

10 Amory Blaine  Feb 19, 2015 8:41:31pm

I am now officially on vacation for the next 11 days. Woo Hoo!!

11 teleskiguy  Feb 19, 2015 8:45:50pm

It’s a music thread. So, music!

In June my favorite touring rock ‘n’ roll circus Umphrey’s McGee took 12 hours of their time in London to record at Abbey Road Studios. They recorded enough material for a new LP, out in April titled “The London Session.”

Yes, they played The Beatles.

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12 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 19, 2015 8:46:55pm

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

What, no Gadsden Flag?

That probably falls into the etc category.

RBS

13 Kid A  Feb 19, 2015 9:02:34pm

14 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 19, 2015 9:02:34pm

This is where I’m going this weekend to dive. Bonne Terre Mine in Missouri, not far from St. Louis. It’s an old lead mine that was shut down in 1962. Since the pumps were turned off, it’s now flooded and is one of the “must see” dive sites in most lists. The club is doing 3 dives there on Sunday. I’ll probably go there again, based on what others have said, the only problem is that the people who own it know that they have a truly unique offering, and price it accordingly. They have something like 15 different ‘dive trails’ there, you go as part of a guided group, and if you do it long enough, you eventually do all the trails.

I’m also going to be carrying all my gear (including 24 pounds of weights, but not, thank dog, a 40# air tank) down 13 stories to get to the actual lake. And then carry it back up at the end of the day… No videos allowed on the first dive, but I’ll try and get as much as I can on the remaining ones.

RBS

15 teleskiguy  Feb 19, 2015 9:04:27pm

re: #13 Kid A

16 goddamnedfrank  Feb 19, 2015 9:05:10pm

TRUTH LOL!

I like how one Benghazi Twibbon wasn’t enough. Also, why are all the Benghazi twibbons of the absolute shit quality, pixelated edges, created in MS Paint variety? It’s 2015, you’re telling me that conservatives still haven’t figure out how to make scalable vector art or feather their selections. Instead they’re all branding themselves with the same atrocious, low res dogshit.

17 A Cranky One  Feb 19, 2015 9:06:10pm

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18 goddamnedfrank  Feb 19, 2015 9:08:52pm

re: #14 RealityBasedSteve

This is where I’m going this weekend to dive. Bonne Terre Mine in Missouri, not far from St. Louis. It’s an old lead mine that was shut down in 1962. Since the pumps were turned off, it’s now flooded and is one of the “must see” dive sites in most lists. The club is doing 3 dives there on Sunday. I’ll probably go there again, based on what others have said, the only problem is that the people who own it know that they have a truly unique offering, and price it accordingly.

Cool, sounds fun. To be fair about the price, I’ll bet their liability insurance is just totally insane. I don’t care how safe you make it, it’s still diving in an enclosed, flooded mine. That’s always going to raise eyebrows.

19 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 19, 2015 9:09:09pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

TRUTH LOL!

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I like how one Benghazi Twibbon wasn’t enough. Also, why are all the Benghazi twibbons of the absolute shit quality, pixelated edges, created in MS Paint variety? It’s 2015, you’re telling me that conservatives still haven’t figure out how to make scalable vector art or feather their selections. Instead they’re all branding themselves with the same atrocious, low res dogshit.

It’s well known that Communism can be transmitted genetically from parent to child.
/

20 A Cranky One  Feb 19, 2015 9:09:15pm

re: #1 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

21 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 9:09:40pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

22 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 9:10:10pm
23 Kid A  Feb 19, 2015 9:10:47pm

HANNITY IS SUCH A GREAT MURICAN AND STUFF!!!

24 A Cranky One  Feb 19, 2015 9:14:30pm

re: #23 Kid A

HANNITY IS SUCH A GREAT MURICAN AND STUFF!!!

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Hannity isn’t just an asshole, he’s an exceptional asshole.

25 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 19, 2015 9:15:26pm

re: #19 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

It’s well known that Communism can be transmitted genetically from parent to child.
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It’s a precious bodily fluids thing. Totally transmissible.

26 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 19, 2015 9:16:23pm

re: #25 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s a precious bodily fluids thing. Totally transmissible.

Did you know it’s in ice cream, Mandrake? Children’s ice cream!

27 teleskiguy  Feb 19, 2015 9:17:33pm

re: #25 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s a precious bodily fluids thing. Totally transmissible.

Why True Lizards™ only drink pure grain alcohol or rain water. Purity of essence, my friend.

28 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 19, 2015 9:17:50pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Deep Thoughts, by SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Better reasoning and a more solid factual basis than anything seen from the GOP since Bob Dole retired.

29 teleskiguy  Feb 19, 2015 9:19:47pm

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel

Better reasoning and a more factual basis than anything seen from the GOP since Bob Dole retired.

Funny you say this. I thought about it for a good moment. “Who’s a Republican you’ve at least respected as a human being since Bob Dole lost his bid for President in 1996?”

I couldn’t think of a damn one.

EDIT: I’m speaking of national politicians. My governor from ‘99 to ‘07 Bill Owens is a Republican I respect, he was effective as governor even though I disagreed with most of his social policy positions.

30 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 19, 2015 9:22:07pm

Some Wishbone Ash for your Thursday music thread. We need more bands with 2 lead guitars.

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RBS

31 BeachDem  Feb 19, 2015 9:24:53pm

And of course, inevitably:

What would you do, upchuck? More or less than you would do for a Kit Kat Bar?

32 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 9:26:03pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

Funny you say this. I thought about it for a good moment. “Who’s a Republican you’ve at least respected as a human being since Bob Dole lost his bid for President in 1996?”

I couldn’t think of a damn one.

McCain for me briefly in 2008 before he picked Palin and started making tax increases which FWIW he had voted for out to be “socialism”and “wealth distribution” and expressed support for out to be “wealth distribution.” Plus he’s been downright bitter and vindictive to Obama since Obama beat him. Romney? There are professional wrestlers I respect more than that guy. W’s looks a little better since leaving but that’s only because the party and ideology has grown so much more fucked up. So yeah Dole for me too. A legitimate war hero and someone fairly respectable. Hope he’s doing all right by the way. I know he was spotted advocating for a disability thing a few years back and it saddened him big time that his party in the Senate was pretty much all against it.

33 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 9:26:36pm

re: #31 BeachDem

And of course, inevitably:

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What would you do, upchuck? More or less than you would do for a Kit Kat Bar?

Man Obama’s toast if he ever runs against Rudy in a general election.

34 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 19, 2015 9:27:59pm

re: #31 BeachDem

And of course, inevitably:

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What would you do, upchuck? More or less than you would do for a Kit Kat Bar?

Even upChuck isn’t proud of what he did for klondike bar.

RBS

35 teleskiguy  Feb 19, 2015 9:29:29pm

TEH GLOBL WARNMING IZ A HOAX!!!11TY

36 BeachDem  Feb 19, 2015 9:29:43pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

Man Obama’s toast if he ever runs against Rudy in a general election.

Yeah, you’re right—Rudy’s one delegate in the 2008 primary was some serious competition for everybody!

I ask again, who the fuck cares what Rudy Giuliani has to say about ANYTHING???

37 BeachDem  Feb 19, 2015 9:30:39pm

re: #34 RealityBasedSteve

Even upChuck isn’t proud of what he did for klondike bar.

RBS

Damn—I knew Kit Kat didn’t feel right when I typed it!

38 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 9:31:36pm

re: #36 BeachDem

Yeah, you’re right—Rudy’s one delegate in the 2008 primary was some serious competition for everybody!

I ask again, who the fuck cares what Rudy Giuliani has to say about ANYTHING???

Saw someone make a good point downstairs. It seems like the media really loves going for has-beens or never was beens for the right when they want a lame soundbtie bashing the president. Whether it’s Rudy who last was in office when today’s first time voters were in kindergarten, Donald Trump who has never been elected to anything, and Allen West who served one term in the Congress.

39 BeachDem  Feb 19, 2015 9:33:01pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Saw someone make a good point downstairs. It seems like the media really loves going for has-beens or never was beens for the right when they want a lame soundbtie bashing the president. Whether it’s Rudy who last was in office when today’s first time voters were in kindergarten, Donald Trump who has never been elected to anything, and Allen West who served one term in the Congress.

That would be me who made that point. Today must be our day—I couldn’t remember that it was you who mentioned the Dixie Chicks earlier.

40 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 9:33:06pm

Honestly I’ve felt for sometime that Rudy was a man in love with his own celebrity. When I was a kid and he would appear on SNL and Adam Sandler movies, I found that somewhat endearing, now that I’m older, I see it as a man who sees himself as a celebrity more so than a leader. Rudy should have just stuck to taking down mobsters from the five families. He was actually good at that. Pretty much everything else involving politics? Nada.

41 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 9:34:49pm

re: #39 BeachDem

That would be me who made that point. Today must be our day—I couldn’t remember that it was you who mentioned the Dixie Chicks earlier.

Ha, yeah I did. I brought it up because the right went hysterical about a pretty tame comment especially compared to what Rudy- a former elected official and presidential candidate had to say. I saw Walker’s “response” to Giuliani’s comments. Man what a load of crap. It was some hot air about New Yorkers having strong opinions and stuff. Well Scotty let’s see if you ever do heaven forbid become president and Bill De Blasio accuses you of not loving this country.

42 BeachDem  Feb 19, 2015 9:37:31pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Rudy should have just stuck to taking down mobsters from the five families.

Probably got a lot of info from dear old dad.

Harold Giuliani had trouble holding a job and had been convicted of felony assault and robbery and served time in Sing Sing; after his release he served as an enforcer for his brother-in-law Leo D’Avanzo, who ran an organized crime operation involved in loan sharking and gambling at a restaurant in Brooklyn.

43 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 9:38:01pm

You know who the last genuinely good Republican to sit in the office was. Probably Ford. Not a so-con warrior. Probably honestly given how much Betty was outspoken about key women’s issues, one of the most feminist presidents of his era. Also pro-choice, pro-ERA, and a supporter of gay rights. He and Betty are why I just can’t chalk older conservatives attitudes on gays and gay marriage to just generational values. This is a man who would be 102 if he were alive today and yet he would be to the left of every single GOP prospective presidential candidate on LGBT issues. Ford also gets brownie points for strongly defending John Paul Stevens against his right wing critics. I’ve come to respect the older Bush but one contrast with Jerry is that H.W lamented Souter becoming part of the liberal bloc.

44 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 9:39:10pm

re: #42 BeachDem

Probably got a lot of info from dear old dad.

Harold Giuliani had trouble holding a job and had been convicted of felony assault and robbery and served time in Sing Sing; after his release he served as an enforcer for his brother-in-law Leo D’Avanzo, who ran an organized crime operation involved in loan sharking and gambling at a restaurant in Brooklyn.

I do remember hearing that later. It’s a good thing what he did but as I said, he really wasn’t that good of a mayor and he really is someone in love with his celebrity- not someone I want as a leader of anything.

45 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 19, 2015 9:40:29pm

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46 #FergusonFireside  Feb 19, 2015 9:42:20pm

re: #36 BeachDem

Yeah, you’re right—Rudy’s one delegate in the 2008 primary was some serious competition for everybody!

I ask again, who the fuck cares what Rudy Giuliani has to say about ANYTHING???

He’s in the news because he said something putrid. It’s a money maker.

47 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 19, 2015 9:44:08pm

re: #45 GlutenFreeJesus

Everyone must watch. Got me all teary-eyed n stuff.

48 #FergusonFireside  Feb 19, 2015 9:44:43pm

Good night now.

XXOO

49 teleskiguy  Feb 19, 2015 9:49:38pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Gerald Ford was among the first property owners at Beaver Creek, CO. When he bought in the place was fledgling big time, but Ford knew. In 1980 he bought a ski-in ski-out house with a pool at Beaver Creek. The man knew how to find his Shangri-La.

The Fords were deeply involved in the valley, hosting charity balls, ski races, I even got to ski with Jerry when I was a wee lad when he did his “Ski With A President” thing with the local elementary school skiers.

A lot of places here are named after the Fords. Gerald Ford Amphitheatre, Betty Ford Gardens, there’s a ski run at Beaver Creek called President Ford’s. The stretch of I-70 through Eagle County in Colorado is named The Gerald R. Ford Memorial Highway, arguably in the top five most beautiful stretches of interstate highway in the Union.

Bless Jerry Ford’s heart! I loved his depiction in The Simpsons.

50 darthstar  Feb 19, 2015 9:52:09pm
51 BeachDem  Feb 19, 2015 9:52:37pm

As usual, upchuck doesn’t know how to read past a headline.

The headline reads:
Limited airborne transmission of Ebola is ‘very likely,’ new analysis says

upchuck shouts out his vindication:

The actual article says (bolding mine):

“It is very likely that at least some degree of Ebola virus transmission currently occurs via infectious aerosols generated from the gastrointestinal tract, the respiratory tract, or medical procedures, although this has been difficult to definitively demonstrate or rule out, since those exposed to infectious aerosols also are most likely to be in close proximity to, and in direct contact with, an infected case,”

The paper, titled ‘Transmission of Ebola Viruses: What We Know and What We Do Not Know,” takes pains to note that respiratory transmission of Ebola is unproven …

The review itself points out that “to date, investigators have not identified respiratory spread (either via large droplets or small-particle aerosols) of Ebola viruses among humans.

washingtonpost.com

52 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 9:55:14pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Gerald Ford was among the first property owners at Beaver Creek, CO. When he bought in the place was fledgling big time, but Ford knew. In 1980 he bought a ski-in ski-out house with a pool at Beaver Creek. The man knew how to find his Shangri-La.

The Fords were deeply involved in the valley, hosting charity balls, ski races, I even got to ski with Jerry when I was a wee lad when he did his “Ski With A President” thing with the local elementary school skiers.

A lot of places here are named after the Fords. Gerald Ford Amphitheatre, Betty Ford Gardens, there’s a ski run at Beaver Creek called President Ford’s. The stretch of I-70 through Eagle County in Colorado is named The Gerald R. Ford Memorial Highway, arguably in the top five most beautiful stretches of interstate highway in the Union.

Bless Jerry Ford’s heart! I loved his depiction in The Simpsons.

Very cool. I had forgotten about his Colorado connection. He just seems like he was a genuinely decent guy. One of his Democratic colleagues said that the best thing about him was that he had no enemies.

53 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 19, 2015 9:57:56pm

re: #51 BeachDem

He read the headline, and that’s all. Reading long articles iz hard

Copying them is much easier. He ripped off a Chicago Tribune article a couple of days ago without so much as a link or attribution.

54 BeachDem  Feb 19, 2015 9:58:32pm

re: #47 GlutenFreeJesus

Everyone must watch. Got me all teary-eyed n stuff.

Sniff—very sweet—loved the looks on some of the faces.

55 teleskiguy  Feb 19, 2015 9:59:29pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

One of his Democratic colleagues said that the best thing about him was that he had no enemies.

Isn’t that a great irony? He was Nixon’s Vice-President after Agnew had to go. Nixon had the most honest guy he could find to be his second-in-command.

56 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 19, 2015 10:01:16pm

Well gang, I’m outta here for the evening. I’ll catch you all later on, remember not to put Mr. Bubble in the jacuzzi again. The last time almost burned the pump out.

Really, it could happen…
57 BeachDem  Feb 19, 2015 10:04:13pm

re: #53 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

He read the headline, and that’s all. Reading long articles iz hard

And, as we know, writing them intelligibly is WAY beyond his skill sets.

58 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 10:06:40pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

Isn’t that a great irony? He was Nixon’s Vice-President after Agnew had to go. Nixon had the most honest guy he could find to be his second-in-command.

Yep. It’s a good thing Agnew had to resign. President Agnew. Shivers. I’ve read that before he got picked to be VP that Ford had intended on retiring at the end of the term. History had other plans for him. It’s a good thing honestly that Ford wasn’t swept to the dustbin of history. His life story is actually quite inspiring.

59 Single-handed sailor  Feb 19, 2015 10:09:43pm

I just got back from Yosemite. It was t-shirt weather in February, there should be snow on the ground. Yosemite Falls was flowing at least. The last time I was there the falls were bone dry.

Lower Yosemite Falls
60 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 19, 2015 11:09:57pm

re: #59 Single-handed sailor

I just got back from Yosemite. It was t-shirt weather in February, there should be snow on the ground. Yosemite Falls was flowing at least. The last time I was there the falls were bone dry.

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So that is what it looks like when there is actually water going over it. (It was bone dry when I saw it in August of 2013.)

61 Eventual Carrion  Feb 19, 2015 11:35:01pm

For my listening tonight, Jerry Reed is one ripping guitar picker.

62 Single-handed sailor  Feb 19, 2015 11:38:00pm

re: #60 Feline Fearless Leader

So that is what it looks like when there is actually water going over it. (It was bone dry when I saw it in August of 2013.)

The year of the Rim Fire. I was there when the fire flared up and entered the park. The waterfalls were dry that day. I took a picture of the smoke and associated cloud formation from a vista pullout going down into the valley.

Rim Fire August 21 2013
63 Amory Blaine  Feb 19, 2015 11:42:54pm

Those are some beautiful photos.

64 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 19, 2015 11:53:04pm

So, anyway…To quote Yortak Festrunk: “Here is Something“….

Japanese Company Introduces Robot Hat-Backpack That Feeds You Tomatoes While You Jog
65 Eventual Carrion  Feb 20, 2015 12:08:37am

re: #64 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So, anyway…To quote Yortak Festrunk: “Here is Something“….

Image: Japanese Company Introduces Robot Hat-Backpack That Feeds You Tomatoes While You Jog

And I was just Goggling for one of those. Weird huh?

66 Eventual Carrion  Feb 20, 2015 12:19:23am

Chet Atkins is mighty fine also.

67 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 20, 2015 12:21:30am

I like Jim Stafford—and not solely because I’ve seen him play guitar with his feet.

68 teleskiguy  Feb 20, 2015 12:23:55am

Danny Gatton was an ax-slayer, yes he was.

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69 Eventual Carrion  Feb 20, 2015 12:24:12am

re: #67 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I like Jim Stafford—and not solely because I’ve seen him play guitar with his feet.

Like Jerry Reed, not afraid to be goofy. That’s fun.

70 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 12:53:59am

re: #69 Eventual Carrion

Like Jerry Reed, not afraid to be goofy. That’s fun.

I remember Reed from watching Hee Haw Glenn Campbell’s show and Smokey and the Bandit as a kid. He was talented and funny.

71 Romantic Heretic  Feb 20, 2015 1:09:26am

re: #13 Kid A

Where’s my oxycontin? I need my oxycontin!

72 Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2015 1:12:12am

He’s doing it again…

73 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 1:20:46am

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Yet he says he knows Obama was born in Hawai’i.

74 Romantic Heretic  Feb 20, 2015 1:21:20am

re: #70 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I remember Reed from watching Hee Haw Glenn Campbell’s show and Smokey and the Bandit as a kid. He was talented and funny.

I remember he had his own comedy series for one summer that was hilarious.

His best bit was America’s Most Patriotic Little Old Lady. She would never use the word ‘red’ because Communism!

I wonder what Jerry would think of today’s GOP?

75 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 1:24:11am

gotnwes.com’s latest bulletins

LIES, ALL LIES! ADL official says America’s biggest terror threat is from white supremacists, not Muslims

BUSTED: David Axelrod’s father passed his Communism genetically to his son #ObamaLovesAmerica

David Axelrod is a close associate, advisor and friend of President (Scary Muslim) Barack Obama.

David Axelrod was very close to his father, who committed suicide when David was 19.

David Axelrod’s father’s name is on a 1936 list of Communist Party members.

So, David Axelrod is a commie and Barack Obama doesn’t love America. QED. (That’s Latin for “I just said I proved my point,so shut up.”)

76 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 20, 2015 1:33:37am

re: #74 Romantic Heretic

I remember he had his own comedy series for one summer that was hilarious.

His best bit was America’s Most Patriotic Little Old Lady. She would never use the word ‘red’ because Communism!

I wonder what Jerry would think of today’s GOP?

I got to like Jim Stafford when he had a short-lived variety show in—I want to say 1967.

He told a joke one week: “Cats are like Baptists—you know they’re out raising hell, but you can’t never catch them at it.”

Next week he was forced to issue a weak-ass disclaimer.

The week after he said about the continuing controversy: “Let me make one thing clear: I was born a Baptist, I was raised a Baptist, and I’ll die a Baptist. [pause] I’ve got no ambition at all!”

Needless to say, that was the last show.

77 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 1:38:10am

re: #76 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I got to like Jim Stafford when he had a short-lived variety show in—I want to say 1967.

He told a joke one week: “Cats are like Baptists—you know they’re out raising hell, but you can’t never catch them at it.”

Next week he was forced to issue a weak-ass disclaimer.

The week after he said about the continuing controversy: “Let me make one thing clear: I was born a Baptist, I was raised a Baptist, and I’ll die a Baptist. [pause] I’ve got no ambition at all!”

Needless to say, that was the last show.

Was that also on CBS? The censors went nuts with the Smothers Brothers shows for much the same reasons.

78 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 20, 2015 1:39:56am

re: #77 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Was that also on CBS? The censors went nuts with the Smothers Brothers shows for much the same reasons.

I almost said “on CBS”, but I was only 99% sure…so, yeah.

79 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 20, 2015 1:42:49am

Oops—it was 1975. I was way off on that.

80 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 2:04:06am

Morning, Lizards.

So in news from Bizzaroworld (aka, North Korea) seems Kim Jong-un is rocking a new ‘do.

If he keeps packing on the pounds, he’s gonna need a Rascal scooter in the not-too-distant future. Well, at least he’s eating good, amirite?

81 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 2:07:23am

re: #80 Dr Lizardo

Morning, Lizards.

So in news from Bizzaroworld (aka, North Korea) seems Kim Jong-un is rocking a new ‘do.

If he keeps packing on the pounds, he’s gonna need a Rascal scooter in the not-too-distant future. Well, at least he’s eating good, amirite?

Eating enough to feed about 20 common North Korean citizens, probably.

82 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 2:12:15am

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Eating enough to feed about 20 common North Korean citizens, probably.

Daily. Seriously, he’s getting tubby, and I’m thinking he’s going to have serious problems……not only obese, but IIRC, a pretty heavy smoker as well.

I’m picturing him in a mobility scooter with an oxygen tank. In about 10 to 15 years.

83 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 2:27:53am

re: #82 Dr Lizardo

Daily. Seriously, he’s getting tubby, and I’m thinking he’s going to have serious problems……not only obese, but IIRC, a pretty heavy smoker as well.

I’m picturing him in a mobility scooter with an oxygen tank. In about 10 to 15 years.

I read about his plan to have NK specialists study abroad how to make Swiss cheese, one of his favorite delicacies.

He gets the cheese, and his people get the holes!

84 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 20, 2015 2:28:49am

re: #80 Dr Lizardo

Morning, Lizards.

So in news from Bizzaroworld (aka, North Korea) seems Kim Jong-un is rocking a new ‘do.

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If he keeps packing on the pounds, he’s gonna need a Rascal scooter in the not-too-distant future. Well, at least he’s eating good, amirite?

Grace Jones fan, maybe?

85 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 2:29:23am

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I read about his plan to have NK specialists study abroad how to make Swiss cheese, one of his favorite delicacies.

He gets the cheese, and his people get the holes!

LOL. Though I shouldn’t.

Yes, new in North Korean shops…..Swiss Cheese holes!! Tasty and nutritious - try it today!!!

*smh*

86 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 2:32:50am

re: #84 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Grace Jones fan, maybe?

Hmmm………..never thought about that possibility.

87 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 2:34:02am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

LOL. Though I shouldn’t.

Yes, new in North Korean shops…..Swiss Cheese holes!! Tasty and nutritious - try it today!!!

*smh*

They taste just like Kim’s breath!

88 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 2:37:23am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They taste just like Kim’s breath!

I certainly get the feeling that if NK agriculture specialists get the knack of making Swiss Cheese, the only person eating it is gonna be Kim Jong-un. Maybe the occasional foreign dignitary.

89 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 2:42:53am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

I certainly get the feeling that if NK agriculture specialists get the knack of making Swiss Cheese, the only person eating it is gonna be Kim Jong-un. Maybe the occasional foreign dignitary.

And then they will start working on artificial pastrami. I think they have sauerkraut down, just kimchi without the hot chilis…

90 Varek Raith  Feb 20, 2015 3:57:47am

It’s scary cold out there.

91 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 4:03:10am

re: #69 Eventual Carrion

Like Jerry Reed, not afraid to be goofy. That’s fun.

I used to know a Buddy Reed, after he played with these guys, but a washboard’s always good.

…

92 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 4:03:30am

re: #90 Varek Raith

We woke up to the lowest temps in 120 yrs. It’s 9 deg now, warming up to 32 today. At least over the weekend, it’s supposed to warm up to 42 tomorrow and 57 on Sunday (totally balmy!). I can’t wait to thaw out. : )

93 Varek Raith  Feb 20, 2015 4:04:08am

3.
3 Degrees.
3.
:/

94 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 4:05:18am

re: #93 Varek Raith

3.
3 Degrees.
3.
:/

I assume you mean Farenheit…

95 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 4:06:20am

re: #93 Varek Raith

3.
3 Degrees.
3.
:/

G-son did the mountain route last night and will again tonight. It’s worse there, and supposed to snow late tonight (we may get a bit, too). He said there were icicles hanging all over the place. I admire his youthful enthusiasm. : )

96 Varek Raith  Feb 20, 2015 4:07:20am

re: #94 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I assume you mean Farenheit…

Indeed.

97 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 4:07:51am

Could be Kelvin…

98 Varek Raith  Feb 20, 2015 4:09:23am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Could be Kelvin…

Yeah, if you live in deep space.

99 Varek Raith  Feb 20, 2015 4:09:56am

It is 257 degrees K here.

100 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 4:12:21am

In celebration of the low temps, I decided to put on the extra, long underwear under my sweats because this table is next to the window and even the insulation and double panes aren’t keeping it all out (cold floor in this basement apt). My thermo is on 70 and Duke Energy wants us to “conserve” elec. We’re near 2 power plants. Otherwise, it’s toasty, considering the alternative…

101 Varek Raith  Feb 20, 2015 4:13:26am

re: #100 Justanotherhuman

…

102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 4:15:40am

re: #100 Justanotherhuman

In celebration of the low temps, I decided to put on the extra, long underwear under my sweats because this table is next to the window and even the insulation and double panes aren’t keeping it all out (cold floor in this basement apt). My thermo is on 70 and Duke Energy wants us to “conserve” elec. We’re near 2 power plants. Otherwise, it’s toasty, considering the alternative…

I still have a museum piece in my apartment: one of the few remaining single-glazed windows in all of Germany. I have it done in two layers (inside and out) of “Kentucky insulation” (clear foil taped to it for the winter months).

But it is balmy right now here the Fatherland, upper 40’s (F) and sunny-ish,

103 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 4:17:16am

re: #101 Varek Raith

Hey, you know we’re not used to this crap. : )

And since I’m turning 74 today, I’m beginning to realize why old people go to FL from up north. : ) But even FL isn’t all that tropical right now. When I lived in Miami as a teen, we had no heat or A/C. I hated FL because I like the change of seasons, but this is ridiculous…

104 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 4:18:15am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

What, no plastic? : )

105 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 4:19:29am

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

Hey, you know we’re not used to this crap. : )

And since I’m turning 74 today, I’m beginning to realize why old people go to FL from up north. : ) But even FL isn’t all that tropical right now. When I lived in Miami as a teen, we had no heat or A/C. I hated FL because I like the change of seasons, but this is ridiculous…

Happy birthday!

106 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 4:19:43am

re: #104 Justanotherhuman

What, no plastic? : )

I meant plastic foil. leftover undercoating from my IKEA flooring

107 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 20, 2015 4:20:29am

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

Hey, you know we’re not used to this crap. : )

And since I’m turning 74 today, I’m beginning to realize why old people go to FL from up north. : ) But even FL isn’t all that tropical right now. When I lived in Miami as a teen, we had no heat or A/C. I hated FL because I like the change of seasons, but this is ridiculous…

Happy birthday!

108 Varek Raith  Feb 20, 2015 4:21:38am

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

109 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 4:23:57am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

People here try to keep out the cold with rolls of 4 mm plastic when they have those old single panes. Some of the old houses haven’t been reno’d and the insulation is awful, too.

And thanks to all for the congrats! I hope to be here when I’m 84… : )

110 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 4:24:43am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I still have a museum piece in my apartment: one of the few remaining single-glazed windows in all of Germany. I have it done in two layers (inside and out) of “Kentucky insulation” (clear foil taped to it for the winter months.

But it is balmy right now here the Fatherland, upper 40’s (F) and sunny-ish,

Nice.

Yeah, it’s 42 F here (Ostrava). Sunny weather. Nice.

111 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 4:28:13am

Whoa! They had snow in Jordan and Israel!

112 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 4:32:27am

Wonder if this will shoot down that “exclusive” expose in the Intercept yesterday?

Gemalto says it will investigate reports US and UK spies stole its encryption keys, as shares in the company fell 8% in early trading - @Reuters
end of alert

Paranoia strikes deep with the Snowden/Greenwald crowd and they aren’t reluctant to do everything possible to do what they can to damage the security of the US for whoever it is they’re working for (and that might not even be for their money guy Omidyar).

113 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 4:34:39am
114 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 4:40:52am

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

Will this never end?

Some say the world will end in fire, some say in ice…

115 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 4:41:11am

They’re going nuts over at GG’s twit with this and celebrating Gemalto’s stock decline:

“Gemalto officials declined further comment on Friday but in an emailed statement earlier a spokeswoman said: “From what we gathered at this moment, the target was not Gemalto, per se - it was an attempt to try and cast the widest net possible to reach as many mobile phones as possible”.

“A spokesperson for Britain’s GCHQ said the agency did not comment on intelligence matters. NSA could not be immediately reached for comment.”

reuters.com

116 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 20, 2015 4:44:48am

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

Got cloudy overnight here in Wisconsin. Temperature is rising, only - 2 but to a high of 22. It’s on its way to you :) ,

117 Varek Raith  Feb 20, 2015 4:47:44am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Some say the world will end in fire, some say in ice…

…

118 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 4:52:28am

Kiev accuses Russia of sending more tanks to eastern Ukraine - @Reuters
reuters.com

119 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 4:58:58am

Putin hoodwinked the EU, big time.

120 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 5:12:49am

re: #119 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Putin hoodwinked the EU, big time.

Putin totally hoodwinked a lot of people about the Snowden/Greenwald/Poitras crowd.

Even today, fashionista Sarah Harrison is being hailed in Vogue, for crying out loud, for her “heroic” act hiding Snowden at Sheremetyevo Airport. vogue.com

121 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 5:38:30am

re: #119 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Putin hoodwinked the EU, big time.

Yep. I wonder what the EU’s reaction is gonna be when they realize Putin’s pulled the wool over their eyes?

122 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 5:39:10am
123 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 5:51:06am

re: #122 wrenchwench

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Awful. We don’t need martyrs, we need real free speech. The internet is full of sicko stalkers and vicious misogyny. There ought to be a law, but as long as the predominant males who run companies like Twitter and Facebook, etc, allow their media to be used in this fashion, it will continue.

We see what such people do every single day.

124 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 5:58:42am

Yeah, this idiot really should be prez.

Crunched By His Big Tax Cuts, Scott Walker Will Skip $108 Million In Debt Payments

thinkprogress.org

(snip)

“Walker has pushed for and enacted more than $2 billion in tax cuts since he took office in 2011. Although the state had a surplus of $759 million last year, it now faces a projected shortfall that could wind up being more than $2 billion for the next two budget years.

“His latest budget, which he unveiled earlier this month, seeks even more property tax cuts. At the same time, it cuts $300 million from the state’s public universities as well as cuts to public media and the Department of National Resources. It also seeks new borrowing: $1.3 billion to cover transportation projects instead of increasing the gas tax and more than $200 million to finance a new basketball stadium.”

Wisconsinites are going to wake up dumb and broke if they keep electing clowns like Walker.

125 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 6:07:22am

re: #124 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, this idiot really should be prez.

Crunched By His Big Tax Cuts, Scott Walker Will Skip $108 Million In Debt Payments

thinkprogress.org

(snip)

“Walker has pushed for and enacted more than $2 billion in tax cuts since he took office in 2011. Although the state had a surplus of $759 million last year, it now faces a projected shortfall that could wind up being more than $2 billion for the next two budget years.

“His latest budget, which he unveiled earlier this month, seeks even more property tax cuts. At the same time, it cuts $300 million from the state’s public universities as well as cuts to public media and the Department of National Resources. It also seeks new borrowing: $1.3 billion to cover transportation projects instead of increasing the gas tax and more than $200 million to finance a new basketball stadium.”

Wisconsinites are going to wake up dumb and broke if they keep electing clowns like Walker.

Because that worked so well for Kansas.

126 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 6:08:12am

RWNJ heads exploding…

Judge To Anti-Gay Florist: Religion Is Not An Excuse To Defy Anti-Discrimination Laws

thinkprogress.org

127 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 6:16:19am

David Carr, incomparable, irrepressible, and now legendary, is my friend and my brother. I talked to him about everything—relationships, money problems, taxes, religion, drugs, alcohol, travel, writing, food, death. On Thursday night it was announced that David collapsed and died in the newsroom of The New York Times. On Sunday night, it was announced that I received the George Polk Award for Commentary for my article “The Case For Reparations.” This award has my name on it, but it is the property of David Carr….

… I still remember stumbling upon him in another editor’s office having just turned in a draft of that eviction story, and David looking up and saying, “We were just here talking about your incredible fucking story.” No one had ever said anything like that to me. I remember my mother calling the office one day to talk to me. And David, in his brusque, brutal way, grabbed the phone from me and said, “I just want you to know that your son is here working his ass off.” No one had ever said anything like that to my parents about me. I was a fuck-up. I was a knucklehead. I was going to end up on the corner. I was going to end up in jail. I was going to end up dead.

And then I wasn’t.

David Carr convinced me that, through the constant and forceful application of principle, a young hopper, a fuck-up, a knucklehead, could bring the heavens, the vast heavens, to their knees…

Carr just went up in my estimation, as would anyone who is given credit by Ta-Nehisi Coates for his craft.

128 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 6:17:02am

re: #124 Justanotherhuman

It’s fiscal responsibility, GOP nutter style. Chop taxes and claim that you’re doing everyone a favor, but when the economy doesn’t actually respond with more tax revenue (because trickle down has never managed that feat), the response is to slash and burn services or run up debt, because that’s all the GOP seems to know how to do.

It’s what Walker is doing in WI, and it’s what Christie was trying to do in NJ, where he’s had to miss scheduled pension payments to avoid having to raise taxes to cover shortfalls.

It’s the same story in Kansas where Brownback slashed taxes saying it will result in new revenue and jobs, and yet jobs didn’t magically appear and the budget was a mess.

This is the modern GOP - fiscally irresponsible, morally bankrupt, and looking to do for the nation what they’re doing at the state level.

129 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 6:19:14am

re: #127 wrenchwench

I didn’t follow David Carr at all, but now I wish I had. Besides, if UpChuck hates him, he must have been great.

130 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 6:19:50am

Oh, and it’s frickin’ cold this morning. 3 degrees at the lair, and the wind made it feel a whole lot colder than that.

But the cold weather over the Eastern US is the anomaly. The problem is that pretty much the rest of the world is warmer than it should be. And by a significant margin. Temps in the Northeast do not disprove global warming. Global temps show that something significant is going on.

All those red shades are warmer than average, and there’s a whole lot more of that going on than the blues.

131 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 6:20:59am

re:
#122

Harassment means feminist writers are going offline - by Michelle Goldberg, who closed her Twitter account.

Hmm, her Twitter account is still up but she hasn’t posted since October. So sad to see.

132 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 6:23:18am

re: #129 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I didn’t follow David Carr at all, but now I wish I had. Besides, if UpChuck hates him, he must have been great.

He wrote a piece for Bicycling Magazine that impressed me with his honesty—he included his own stupid mistakes in the story, but he was also a Greenwald fan.

133 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 6:24:05am

re:
#70

I remember Reed from watching Hee Haw Glenn Campbell’s show and Smokey and the Bandit as a kid. He was talented and funny.

“She got the gold mine, I got the shaft..”

134 FemNaziBitch  Feb 20, 2015 6:24:43am

I find this absolutely fascinating. I causes me to want to draw … . Yet it still has major ewwwwww! factor.

I’m amazed by what is available on youtube.

did anyone see BodyWorlds? I did and it was just as macabre.

Good Morning BTW!

:)

(the Stomach produced Hydrochloric Acid —who knew?)

135 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 6:26:52am

re: #133 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#70

“She got the gold mine, I got the shaft..”

Old misogynistic trope from divorced men and so not true, esp where there were kids involved.

Even though I was awarded a grand total of $59/mo in alimony in 1961 (CA), I never got a cent (plus, I never remarried). I had to fight like hell to get the $100/mo child support.

136 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 20, 2015 6:27:57am

good morning lizards. Are there any doc’s/nurses in the house or even someone with mid wife experience? Have a few questions.

137 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 20, 2015 6:31:26am

re: #136 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

good morning lizards. Are there any doc’s/nurses in the house or even someone with mid wife experience? Have a few questions.

Ummm, how old are you?

138 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 6:31:31am
139 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 6:32:53am

Love when Twitter reminds me of a group or song I haven’t listened to in a while. Like today, someone mentioned Take Me To The River by the Talking Heads, and off I go with The Best of Talking Heads.

140 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 6:32:58am

re: #126 Justanotherhuman

RWNJ heads exploding…

Judge To Anti-Gay Florist: Religion Is Not An Excuse To Defy Anti-Discrimination Laws

thinkprogress.org

That judge is nothing but a “despicable guttersnipe”.

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141 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 6:33:03am

re: #138 wrenchwench

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Wow, talk about cultural appropriation…

142 FemNaziBitch  Feb 20, 2015 6:33:46am

2 degrees in my part of the world.

Yippee!!

/

143 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 6:34:16am

re: #141 Justanotherhuman

Wow, talk about cultural appropriation…

The models in pictures 2 and 4 are wearing cavalry hats.

144 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 6:34:36am

re: #141 Justanotherhuman

Wow, talk about cultural appropriation…

Last line of the article:

Instances like KTZ’s collection show that while cultural appropriation remains a weighted subject, what detractors really want in return is simply inclusion.

145 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 6:35:24am

Temperature is 2 degrees, with a negative windchill in the Nation’s Capital.

146 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 6:37:11am

One of the things I’ve noticed quite a bit when visiting various national parks is that there are lots of visitors, but more and more of them aren’t Americans, but tourists from overseas. Now, some of this could be because of when we go - we’re not on a school schedule so we aren’t seeing parents taking their kids on camping trips and the like, but anything to get people to connect with the national parks is a good idea.

People need to see what wonders they have in store. Yellowstone, for instance, is like visiting the Serengeti for its abundance of wildlife, and you can watch predators and prey alike coexist and attempt to survive in harsh conditions. People need to connect with the parks. They need to see what the GOP wants to do - both in limiting the President’s ability to protect national lands (under the Antiquities Act) and in starving the parks of adequate funding to maintain resources (whether it’s visitor centers, roads, roadside descriptions, etc). The GOP has sought to commercialize the parks in ways that threaten their character, and they’re undermining the protections for the parks in various fashions, including attempting to drill and mine right up to park borders (you can go to Canyonlands and Arches and see drill rigs on the horizon and pipelines being built along the roadside (particularly to Islands District)). Then there are air quality issues at the parks, due to emissions upwind.

All of which degrades the quality of the parks.

So, the more people that go to visit and learn what it means to have these gems, the more people will understand the need to protect them in perpetuity.

147 ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2015 6:37:26am

re: #30 RealityBasedSteve

Some Wishbone Ash for your Thursday music thread. We need more bands with 2 lead guitars.

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Video

RBS

Morning. And another cold one. I think I am getting used to this. That is not a good thing. Perish the thought.

RBS…thanks for the video link. Always loved this song, and a good one to wake up to. Saw them three times back in the early to mid 70s and met them once at a meet and greet at Capitol City Records on the Ohio State University campus. Good dudes. A band that many do not remember, sadly.

148 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 6:38:06am

must comment on lyrics:

So ended up moving back over to Germany
Living with my folks baggin’ groceries

I have never seen a grocery-bagger at any supermaket I have ever visited in Germany.

And you have to pay extra for the bags or bring your own.

149 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 6:38:12am
150 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 6:38:29am

re: #122 wrenchwench

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151 FemNaziBitch  Feb 20, 2015 6:41:57am

re: #146 lawhawk

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One of the things I’ve noticed quite a bit when visiting various national parks is that there are lots of visitors, but more and more of them aren’t Americans, but tourists from overseas. Now, some of this could be because of when we go - we’re not on a school schedule so we aren’t seeing parents taking their kids on camping trips and the like, but anything to get people to connect with the national parks is a good idea.

People need to see what wonders they have in store. Yellowstone, for instance, is like visiting the Serengeti for its abundance of wildlife, and you can watch predators and prey alike coexist and attempt to survive in harsh conditions. People need to connect with the parks. They need to see what the GOP wants to do - both in limiting the President’s ability to protect national lands (under the Antiquities Act) and in starving the parks of adequate funding to maintain resources (whether it’s visitor centers, roads, roadside descriptions, etc). The GOP has sought to commercialize the parks in ways that threaten their character, and they’re undermining the protections for the parks in various fashions, including attempting to drill and mine right up to park borders (you can go to Canyonlands and Arches and see drill rigs on the horizon and pipelines being built along the roadside (particularly to Islands District)). Then there are air quality issues at the parks, due to emissions upwind.

All of which degrades the quality of the parks.

So, the more people that go to visit and learn what it means to have these gems, the more people will understand the need to protect them in perpetuity.

We stumbled upon the Passport Program at the National Parks, thankfully, when our son was still young. It’s been invaluable!

I highly recommend it for anyone, young or old.

As a result, our son has planned many of the destinations of our vacations. Before he started driving, he say “Hey, there is a National Park near here!”

“Near Here” was often 300 miles away!

:)

152 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 6:42:56am

re: #122 wrenchwench

Thank you again for reminding me why I ignore Twitter.

It is not a place to discuss any nuanced subject, but rather, its very format lends itself to sloganizing, bullet-pointing and schoolyard-level taunting.

153 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 6:43:19am

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

The models in pictures 2 and 4 are wearing cavalry hats.

But the bulk of those designs appear to be stolen from a Native American designer, Bethany Yellowtail. And the addition of helmets? Yikes.

Pejoski/left Yellowtail/right
154 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 6:44:21am

re: #146 lawhawk

Where is that gif with the cartoon fella blowing up the planet?

—> *insert here*

155 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 6:45:37am

If we are to apply Bill O’Reilly’s definition of being under fire, then every New Yorker was in a war zone if they were in the NYC metro area on 9/11. Towers falling, apocalyptic scenes right out of Dante’s Inferno with Lower Manhattan shrouded in toxic clouds, and a death toll that was unimaginable (and still growing as more and more people die from the effects of breathing in the toxic crap at Ground Zero and up on the Hill in Staten Island where the debris was taken to be sorted to try and find still more remains).

All that was missing is the combat badge, though more than a few ppl in the region still suffer from PTSD from the experience.

Add to that the 1993 WTC bombing or the Times Square bombing fizzle that could have had dire consequences.

Or if you’re on the West Coast, anyone who was in LA during the riots.

But that’s not anyone’s accepted definition of a war zone, or combat.

It stretched credulity, and O’Reilly knows it. Which is why he’s furiously spinning in his “No Spin Zone”. But he also knows that Fox wont take the kind of actions that NBC did with Williams. Because if they did, they’d probably have to dock all of their on-air talent for the endless stream of lies - I’m not talking about their opinions mind you. They’re free to express their ignorance all they like. But when it comes to facts, saying up is down, left is right, and that you’re in war zones when you aren’t, those are lies. And cannot and should not be tolerated.

It’s still a firing offense in my book, and O’Reilly should be gone.

156 FemNaziBitch  Feb 20, 2015 6:45:37am

re: #150 wrenchwench

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I’ve pretty much had it with White Women as a group, in as far as they are committed to make change.

WOC are the leaders, we need to pay attention.

157 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 6:46:12am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Thank you again for reminding me why I ignore Twitter.

It is not a place to discuss any nuanced subject, but rather, its very format lends itself to sloganizing, bullet-pointing and schoolyard-level taunting.

158 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 6:47:15am

re: #154 Dr. Matt

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Where is that gif with the cartoon fella blowing up the planet?

—> *insert here*

The Silverstein site appears to be a parody run by assholes. And probably 9/11 “truthers”.

159 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 6:48:17am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Thank you again for reminding me why I ignore Twitter.

It is not a place to discuss any nuanced subject, but rather, its very format lends itself to sloganizing, bullet-pointing and schoolyard-level taunting.

I follow a lot of scientists.

160 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 6:48:24am

re: #146 lawhawk

The President’s launching a new effort to give every 4th-grader in America free access to public lands.

WORSE THAN HITLER! WORSE THAN STALIN! WORSE THAN MAO!!!

161 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 6:48:46am

re:
#154

The CIA created ISIS to be with the Muslim Brotherhood in the WH so Obama could illegally hold office third term. ///

162 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 6:48:47am

re: #151 FemNaziBitch

I don’t use the Passport, but have a map that I’ve highlight all of our trips, and pretty much every one of our domestic trips involves figuring out where the nearest national park is.

We’ve got a trip planned for later this year that will hit a bunch of Civil War sites through MD, PA, and VA, along with Shenandoah NP.

And I’m already looking ahead to another trip out West - possibly to Oregon and Crater Lake and/or Redwoods.

I’m also looking to hit Great Falls in NJ this weekend (want to catch the nearly frozen falls in person).

163 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 6:49:37am

re: #154 Dr. Matt

That’s a parody account, but it’s not particularly funny either.

164 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 6:50:59am
165 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 6:51:35am

re: #160 Dr Lizardo

WORSE THAN HITLER! WORSE THAN STALIN! WORSE THAN MAO!!!

He’s sending the kids to the hidden FEMA camps, to teach them the Common Core ‘n’Islam stuff!

166 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 6:51:47am

re: #163 lawhawk

That’s a parody account, but it’s not particularly funny either.

Ah. I agree….not particularly funny.

167 FemNaziBitch  Feb 20, 2015 6:52:07am

re: #162 lawhawk

I don’t use the Passport, but have a map that I’ve highlight all of our trips, and pretty much every one of our domestic trips involves figuring out where the nearest national park is.

We’ve got a trip planned for later this year that will hit a bunch of Civil War sites through MD, PA, and VA, along with Shenandoah NP.

And I’m already looking ahead to another trip out West - possibly to Oregon and Crater Lake and/or Redwoods.

I’m also looking to hit Great Falls in NJ this weekend (want to catch the nearly frozen falls in person).

We did the “hired guide” at Gettysburg. It was relatively inexpensive and IIRC, they drive your car around and park at various places. Then they give an oral/guided tour of the battlegrounds.

At one point, we were standing on what seemed to me to be well manicured grass and a bit of a hill. The guide said that 5,000 soldiers died, right there where we were standing.

Until that point I was rather bored. There wasn’t much to see, grass, a few trees, bushes, and sky. I don’t care to hear about troop movements—from here to 40 feet away —more grass, few trees …

Then I realized I was standing on blood.

I lost it and ran back to the car and bawled my eyes out.

168 FemNaziBitch  Feb 20, 2015 6:52:58am

re: #167 FemNaziBitch

Hubby and Son were, in contrast, totally fascinated.

169 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 6:53:19am

re: #158 Justanotherhuman

The Silverstein site appears to be a parody run by assholes. And probably 9/11 “truthers”.

A lot of “parody” Twitter accounts just want an excuse to Tweet racist shit.

170 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 6:53:32am

re: #156 FemNaziBitch

I’ve pretty much had it with White Women as a group, in as far as they are committed to make change.

WOC are the leaders, we need to pay attention.

A lot has to do with class, also, but it shouldn’t demean efforts by those women. There is lots more to feminism than rising up the corporate ladder, as I used to tell certain second wavers.

171 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 6:54:00am

re: #134 FemNaziBitch

Fascinating video series. I can’t imagine something like that ever being shown on TV in the US.

Ever.

172 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 6:55:29am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

must comment on lyrics:

So ended up moving back over to Germany
Living with my folks baggin’ groceries

I have never seen a grocery-bagger at any supermaket I have ever visited in Germany.

And you have to pay extra for the bags or bring your own.

Same here in the Czech Republic - never seen a grocery-bagger, and you either bring your own, or pay a crown or two for a bag.

173 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 6:55:37am

re: #155 lawhawk

174 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 6:56:04am

re: #159 wrenchwench

I follow a lot of scientists.

I suppose if I had a concrete and specific use for the medium, I would look into it. Much as was the case with FB: it is great for promoting band events or music sessions.

176 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 6:57:26am

re: #165 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

He’s sending the kids to the hidden FEMA camps, to teach them the Common Core ‘n’Islam stuff!

AND THE COMMON CORE HISTORY WILL TEACH THEM THAT MURICA ISN’T EXCEPTIONAL!!!

177 FemNaziBitch  Feb 20, 2015 6:57:34am

re: #171 Dr Lizardo

Fascinating video series. I can’t imagine something like that ever being shown on TV in the US.

Ever.

The one on Reproduction uses live models.

178 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 6:57:44am

re: #175 FemNaziBitch

sign if you wish:
Don’t Ban AP Courses

Oklahoma May Scrap AP History For Focusing On America’s ‘Bad Parts’

We are abandoning education for indoctrination.

179 Romantic Heretic  Feb 20, 2015 6:57:59am

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

Hey, you know we’re not used to this crap. : )

And since I’m turning 74 today, I’m beginning to realize why old people go to FL from up north. : ) But even FL isn’t all that tropical right now. When I lived in Miami as a teen, we had no heat or A/C. I hated FL because I like the change of seasons, but this is ridiculous…

Happy Birthday.

Been bitterly cold here as well in Toronto, and I’ve been fighting a cold all week. Hasn’t been fun.

180 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 6:58:21am

re: #167 FemNaziBitch

We did the “hired guide” at Gettysburg. It was relatively inexpensive and IIRC, they drive your car around and park at various places. Then they give an oral/guided tour of the battlegrounds.

At one point, we were standing on what seemed to me to be well manicured grass and a bit of a hill. The guide said that 5,000 soldiers died, right there where we were standing.

Until that point I was rather bored. There wasn’t much to see, grass, a few trees, bushes, and sky. I don’t care to hear about troop movements—from here to 40 feet away —more grass, few trees …

Then I realized I was standing on blood.

I lost it and ran back to the car and bawled my eyes out.

I was watching an Finding Your Roots with Henry Gates Jr a while ago. One of the people Gates interviewed had a free black ancestor who came to Gettysburg nearly penniless before the war. After the battle, the Army needed someone to bury the dead, because the corpses were creating a health hazard. This man offered to do the job, hired some men, and buried all those soldiers. He ended up being one of the most prosperous free black men in the town.

I have to find out who was the subject of the interview, because I’ve forgotten.

181 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 6:59:14am

re: #179 Romantic Heretic

Happy Birthday.

Been bitterly cold here as well in Toronto, and I’ve been fighting a cold all week. Hasn’t been fun.

Thanks! Hope you get well very soon. : ) Grandma says, chicken soup, lots of liquids, and rest, baby, rest.

182 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 6:59:25am

re: #176 Dr Lizardo

AND THE COMMON CORE HISTORY WILL TEACH THEM THAT MURICA ISN’T EXCEPTIONAL!!!

Not to mention the AP and IB programs.

183 FemNaziBitch  Feb 20, 2015 6:59:39am

re: #181 Justanotherhuman

Thanks! Hope you get well very soon. : ) Grandma says, chicken soup, lots of liquids, and rest, baby, rest.

It’s your birthday?

Happy Happy!

184 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 7:01:29am

re: #167 FemNaziBitch

Found it. Here’s Gates’ article about it. theroot.com

185 Romantic Heretic  Feb 20, 2015 7:01:50am

re: #122 wrenchwench

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It’s not just cyberspace they have to hide from. Meatspace isn’t fun for them either.

Brianna Wu’s Giant Spacekat pulls out of PAX East, blames GamerGate death threats

186 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 7:02:41am

re: #173 Dr. Matt

OReillyWarStories should be a hashtag.

Many of the same quips re: Brian Williams would apply.

187 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 7:04:51am
188 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 7:06:27am
189 Romantic Heretic  Feb 20, 2015 7:07:53am

re: #128 lawhawk

It’s fiscal responsibility, GOP nutter style. Chop taxes and claim that you’re doing everyone a favor, but when the economy doesn’t actually respond with more tax revenue (because trickle down has never managed that feat), the response is to slash and burn services or run up debt, because that’s all the GOP seems to know how to do.

It’s what Walker is doing in WI, and it’s what Christie was trying to do in NJ, where he’s had to miss scheduled pension payments to avoid having to raise taxes to cover shortfalls.

It’s the same story in Kansas where Brownback slashed taxes saying it will result in new revenue and jobs, and yet jobs didn’t magically appear and the budget was a mess.

This is the modern GOP - fiscally irresponsible, morally bankrupt, and looking to do for the nation what they’re doing at the state level.

Slashing and burning was their goal from the git go. But they can’t just cut things because most people support those things.

So taxes go down, deficit goes up and things get cut. It’s ‘balancing the budget’ which is another one of those concepts people support without understanding what it means.

It’s so the Right can prove that government doesn’t work. They get into office and they make sure it doesn’t work. “Government can’t do anything good because then people might not understand that government is bad, Understand?” as Paul Krugman put it.

190 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 7:09:05am

re: #186 lawhawk

OReillyWarStories should be a hashtag.

Many of the same quips re: Brian Williams would apply.

Here’s a starter. :)

191 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 7:10:01am

re: #190 Dr. Matt

192 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 7:12:15am

re:
#191

“And he said to me,

Are you an assassin? You’re a clerk sent by grocerers to collect the bill.

193 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 7:12:57am

The so-called librul media pounced on Brian Williams for his exaggerations. Williams never played the victim card. Williams never personally insulted his critics. By contrast, O’Reilly’s first and only instinct was to fling personal attacks.

194 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 7:13:16am

re: #191 lawhawk

What was the Skyrim line about an arrow to the knee?

195 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 7:15:13am
Saigon. Shit. I’m still in Saigon. They brought me my orders, delivered to my room like room service. After this mission I would never want another one.

#OReillyWarStories

196 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 7:15:20am

re: #193 Dr. Matt

The so-called librul media pounced on Brian Williams for his exaggerations. Williams never played the victim card. Williams never personally insulted his critics. By contrast, O’Reilly’s first and only instinct was to fling personal attacks.

That’s because Brian Williams is a pantywaist librul and O’Reilly is a strong conservative that all women want!

197 nearly-headless smith25  Feb 20, 2015 7:16:49am

Got down to -18 overnight here in Lexington KY. In Madison co. about thirty min. away from me, -32 was recorded in one of the valleys.

Suns out now. It has warmed up to 0 degrees…

198 FemNaziBitch  Feb 20, 2015 7:17:21am

People Acting like Dogs at the Dog Park:
…

199 FemNaziBitch  Feb 20, 2015 7:18:45am

re: #198 FemNaziBitch

People Acting like Dogs at the Dog Park:
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When everyone was “barking” the Fugitive tilted her head back and forth!

200 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 7:19:37am

My aim then was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us.
#OReillyWarStories

201 ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2015 7:22:52am

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

Hey, you know we’re not used to this crap. : )

And since I’m turning 74 today, I’m beginning to realize why old people go to FL from up north. : ) But even FL isn’t all that tropical right now. When I lived in Miami as a teen, we had no heat or A/C. I hated FL because I like the change of seasons, but this is ridiculous…

Happy B-Day Justanother!

202 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 20, 2015 7:27:23am

re: #137 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Ummm, how old are you?

36

Basically it appears my wife may be pregnant. She goes in for blood tests monday since the Home tests keep coming back negative but there are other signs. I am keeping my fingers crossed that she is but kinda freaking out at the same time lol.

203 bratwurst  Feb 20, 2015 7:29:19am

Wow, Kevin D. WIlliamson of National Review has checked in with a surprisingly nuanced and thoughtful piece on the Rudy Giuliani “Obama doesn’t love America” controversy!
.
.
.
.
.
Just kidding…it is more of the same old shit:

Does Barack Obama love his country? Call me a rube for saying so, but it’s a fair question.

Ok, Kevin, you are a rube…and a fuckwit to boot.

204 ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2015 7:30:26am

I see there are some comments about everyone’s favorite Wisconsin Governator…Scotty Walker. I did a ‘shop late last evening based on Charles saying Scott Walker has the dumbest look with empty eyes. I’ve always thought he was Goofy…so for those that might have not seen it, for your entertainment…

205 FemNaziBitch  Feb 20, 2015 7:31:39am

bbl

206 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 7:32:24am

re: #204 ObserverArt

I see there are some comments about everyone’s favorite Wisconsin Governator…Scotty Walker. I did a ‘shop late last evening based on Charles saying Scott Walker has the dumbest look with empty eyes. I’ve always thought he was Goofy…so for those that might have not seen it, for your entertainment…

Embedded Image

Maybe you can make that graphic with a blank easel so we can create our own meme?

207 Sionainn  Feb 20, 2015 7:35:09am

re: #202 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

36

Basically it appears my wife may be pregnant. She goes in for blood tests monday since the Home tests keep coming back negative but there are other signs. I am keeping my fingers crossed that she is but kinda freaking out at the same time lol.

Has she missed her period yet? Some home pregnancy tests aren’t as accurate for early testing as others (and they are the expensive ones, go figure!).

208 Sionainn  Feb 20, 2015 7:35:56am

re: #202 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Why is she freaking out?

209 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 20, 2015 7:36:00am

re: #207 Sionainn

Yeah she was late then bled for like a day and nothing since (she’s never late, if anything she is early) and she never has short ones.

210 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 20, 2015 7:36:40am

re: #208 Sionainn

Why is she freaking out?

I’m kinda freaking out since the Home tests keep coming back negative but she has other symptoms. Mainly just the not knowing for sure.

211 b.d.  Feb 20, 2015 7:37:47am

What could possibly go wrong?

FORT WORTH — T-shirts that feature a realistic-looking gun and holster are being sold with a word of caution.

wfaa.com

I guess you might not get gunned down on sight if you’re a white guy.

212 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 7:38:18am

re: #203 bratwurst

Wow, Kevin D. WIlliamson of National Review has checked in with a surprisingly nuanced and thoughtful piece on the Rudy Giuliani “Obama doesn’t love America” controversy!
.
.
.
.
.
Just kidding…it is more of the same old shit:

Does Barack Obama love his country? Call me a rube for saying so, but it’s a fair question.

Ok, Kevin, you are a rube…and a fuckwit to boot.

Hey were just asking questions here!!!!11

And why won’t Liberal media ask hard questions like Why Does Obama hate America??

213 Sionainn  Feb 20, 2015 7:40:16am

re: #210 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I’m kinda freaking out since the Home tests keep coming back negative but she has other symptoms. Mainly just the not knowing for sure.

Totally understand that. Good that she’s getting the blood test so you’ll both know for sure. I should have bought stock in home pregnancy tests with the number of them I ran through over a nine year period of time. Finally got my positive at age 38 and again at 40. :-)

214 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 7:40:27am

re: #212 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Hey were just asking questions here!!!!11

And why won’t Liberal media ask hard questions like Why Does Obama hate America??

Or if he has stopped beating his wife (and daughters)…

215 ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2015 7:41:14am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We are abandoning education for indoctrination.

You know who else did that, while also dressing themselves in patriotic/party symbols?

No, not just them…all kinds of really bad groups follow the same basic principles. Wrap everyone in a flag, point out everyone else is the enemy and holding you back from greatness and only teach the stuff that keeps them motivated to go out and kill.

I have always thought that some day America would go down that road…

216 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 7:42:37am

re: #215 ObserverArt

You know who else did that, while also dressing themselves in patriotic/party symbols?

I would not go there, but when they talk about teaching “critical thinking” they mean “criticizing everything Obama supports”.

217 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 7:43:20am

re: #209 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yeah she was late then bled for like a day and nothing since (she’s never late, if anything she is early) and she never has short ones.

Sounds like peri-menopause, also. Early. Any early menopause in her family, like 40? It happens.

218 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 7:45:54am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I would not go there, but when they talk about teaching “critical thinking” they mean “criticizing everything Obama supports”.

Hurr hurr were the real critical thinking realists and were just want kids to know Troof about country!

219 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 7:46:06am

Militants loyal to the Islamic State claim responsibility for car bomb attacks in eastern Libya - @Reuters
end of alert

Death toll from suicide car bombings in eastern Libyan rises to at least 45 - @AP
read more on bigstory.ap.org

220 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 7:48:13am
221 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 20, 2015 7:49:19am

re: #217 Justanotherhuman

No, none of that. She’s 33 so that would be really odd if it was.

222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 7:50:32am

re: #220 wrenchwench

Kristina was found dead inside her home, making her the sixth trans woman of color killed in the US within one month.

What is the existential threat posed by these people?

223 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 20, 2015 7:50:53am

re: #213 Sionainn

Totally understand that. Good that she’s getting the blood test so you’ll both know for sure. I should have bought stock in home pregnancy tests with the number of them I ran through over a nine year period of time. Finally got my positive at age 38 and again at 40. :-)

Well, if she’s not then we get to have the fun of continuing to try LOL. I really hope she is. I’ve read stories and talked to people that have said they tried the HPT’s and it took more than a month and 2 missed periods to get a positive.

224 ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2015 7:52:49am

re: #206 The Vicious Babushka

Maybe you can make that graphic with a blank easel so we can create our own meme?

Easy…it is a photoshop doc…just turned off that layer.

Edit…big enough to do all kinds of stuff! Click for full size to see…

225 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 7:53:37am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

What is the existential threat posed by these people?

Biblical? That they might be accepted?

226 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 7:54:41am

re: #224 ObserverArt

Easy…it is a photoshop doc…just turned off that layer.

Edit…big enough to do all kinds of stuff! Click for full size to see…

Embedded Image

Thanks!

227 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 7:54:47am

re: #223 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Well, if she’s not then we get to have the fun of continuing to try LOL. I really hope she is. I’ve read stories and talked to people that have said they tried the HPT’s and it took more than a month and 2 missed periods to get a positive.

Good luck!

228 rhuarc  Feb 20, 2015 7:55:33am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That a pure heterosexual male may find them attractive, pick them up in a bar, take them home, and when things get going that pure heterosexual sees a penis and realizes he’s been attracted to and making out with another man. In other words, for people who aren’t secure in their sexuality transgender individuals pose a big risk that they might be exposed as possibly being attracted to the same sex.

229 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 7:55:48am

re: #221 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

No, none of that. She’s 33 so that would be really odd if it was.

I hope it isn’t because 33 is pretty young, but perimenopause can start in mid-thirties. It’s a time of rises and declines in estrogen and progesterone. Only her dr can determine this, so it’s a good thing she’s going.
mayoclinic.org

230 Sionainn  Feb 20, 2015 7:55:54am

re: #223 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Well, if she’s not then we get to have the fun of continuing to try LOL. I really hope she is. I’ve read stories and talked to people that have said they tried the HPT’s and it took more than a month and 2 missed periods to get a positive.

I had undergone treatments for infertility, but had finally given up. When I tested early and got a positive years later, I immediately went to their office because I knew they could do the blood test then and there and I’d get the answer that day. It confirmed the positive. They then monitored me with HCG tests every other day and ultrasounds. Mine wasn’t doubling like it should have, so there was about a 50/50 chance that I’d have a miscarriage. She made up for lost time because she ended up being born at 9 pounds 14 ounces three days after my due date. LOL.

231 makeitstop  Feb 20, 2015 7:56:14am

So, Rudy finally played the typical Rudy card on Hannnity’s show yesterday.

HANNITY: You don’t want to live through 9/11 again. You were on the front lines. You don’t want to see this happen. And, it very well —

GIULIANI: You know, President Obama didn’t live through September 11 — I did. President Obama didn’t almost have a building fall on him — myself and my police commissioner and my fire commissioner did. And, I lost ten of my very close friends.

Asshole. Fucking miserable has-been.

232 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 20, 2015 7:58:30am

re: #231 makeitstop

So, Rudy finally played the typical Rudy card on Hannnity’s show yesterday.

Asshole. Fucking miserable has-been.

#GiulaniWarStories

233 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 7:58:46am

re: #231 makeitstop

So, Rudy finally played the typical Rudy card on Hannnity’s show yesterday.

Asshole. Fucking miserable has-been.

I total forgot that Obama didn’t live or govern in NYC on 9/11. So of course he doesn’t love America. //

234 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 7:59:13am

What’s strange about this fire other than it was suspicious?

235 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 7:59:56am

re: #231 makeitstop

HANNITY: You don’t want to live through 9/11 again. You were on the front lines. You don’t want to see this happen. And, it very well —

Gosh, Hannity is just grilling, absolutely grilling Giuliani here. ////

236 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 7:59:59am

re: #231 makeitstop

Live through 9/11. Guiliani wasn’t the only one to live through 9/11. Everyone who was alive in the US lived through it. What an asshat, but it confirms what has previously been stated about Giuliani.

Safe reset mode for Giuliani means noun, verb, 9/11.

237 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 20, 2015 8:00:54am

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

Happy Birthday! And many more.

238 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 8:01:49am

re: #237 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Thanks!

And let’s just wait for the RW reaction to this:

US says it mailed 800,000 healthcare.gov customers incorrect tax information; consumers asked to delay filing 2014 taxes - @AP
read more on abcnews.go.com

239 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 8:03:05am

re: #228 rhuarc

That a pure heterosexual male may find them attractive, pick them up in a bar, take them home, and when things get going that pure heterosexual sees a penis and realizes he’s been attracted to and making out with another man. In other words, for people who aren’t secure in their sexuality transgender individuals pose a big risk that they might be exposed as possibly being attracted to the same sex.

aha: they are a threat to our nation’s identity-insecure heterosexual males…

240 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 8:03:19am

re: #238 Justanotherhuman

Thanks!

And let’s just wait for the RW reaction to this:

US says it mailed 800,000 healthcare.gov customers incorrect tax information; consumers asked to delay filing 2014 taxes - @AP
read more on abcnews.go.com

Full Repeal!!!! Trainwreck!!!!11

241 makeitstop  Feb 20, 2015 8:03:30am

re: #236 lawhawk

Live through 9/11. Guiliani wasn’t the only one to live through 9/11. Everyone who was alive in the US lived through it. What an asshat, but it confirms what has previously been stated about Giuliani.

Safe reset mode for Giuliani means noun, verb, 9/11.

Rudy is a fucking ghoul who drags the memory of 9/11 victims out when he’s got no other response of any worth. It’s his get out of jail free card when he reaches a rhetorical dead end. Loser.

242 A Cranky One  Feb 20, 2015 8:03:37am

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

Happy Birthday!

Happy Birthday to you!
243 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 8:03:44am
244 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 20, 2015 8:04:24am

re: #230 Sionainn

we might look into infertility treatments if we can’t get it done naturally. I am a complete newb when it comes to this stuff, never even had a “scare” with anyone I have been with so it’s all new to me. Hopefully the blood test will be able to pick up what the Home test can’t and we’ll know for sure. I just want to know so that she can start getting the prenatal treatments if she is and so that I can brag like a mofo (because I fully intend to celebrate a lot).

245 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 20, 2015 8:05:52am

re: #228 rhuarc

I was going to say as much but you said it much more eloquently. I briefly dated a trans girl once, she was up front about it but there are many who just don’t think about it or don’t say anything at first.

246 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 8:05:58am

re: #234 Justanotherhuman

Give up?

It’s freaking GA, and the fire, as fierce as it seemed to be, judging from the charred entry, didn’t melt the ice on the surrounding trees and shrubs.

247 Sionainn  Feb 20, 2015 8:07:59am

re: #244 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

we might look into infertility treatments if we can’t get it done naturally. I am a complete newb when it comes to this stuff, never even had a “scare” with anyone I have been with so it’s all new to me. Hopefully the blood test will be able to pick up what the Home test can’t and we’ll know for sure. I just want to know so that she can start getting the prenatal treatments if she is and so that I can brag like a mofo (because I fully intend to celebrate a lot).

If you have any questions or just want some support, you or your wife, let me know and I’ll figure out how you can contact me.

248 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 8:08:36am

re: #246 Justanotherhuman

Well, the ice on the trees could have been the result of getting water on the fire before the firefighters could enter. As the firefighters beat back the fire, the water then froze. Rather common up here, but very uncommon to see it in the Deep South.

249 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 8:08:37am

WINGNUT DOOFUS OF THE DAY

250 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 8:09:29am
251 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 8:10:03am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

I’m adding @jmattbarber to the list of wingnuts that have blocked me.

252 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 8:10:19am

re: #244 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Let’s hope it’s a good positive with a good outcome. : )

253 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 8:10:19am
254 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 8:11:59am

re: #251 Dr. Matt

I’m adding @jmattbarber to the list of wingnuts that have blocked me.

BarbWire!!!!11

255 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 8:12:03am

re: #248 lawhawk

Well, the ice on the trees could have been the result of getting water on the fire before the firefighters could enter. As the firefighters beat back the fire, the water then froze. Rather common up here, but very uncommon to see it in the Deep South.

True. Single digits down here—broke a 120 yr record in this area. I knew this isn’t normal—at least in my lifetime. : )

256 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 8:13:06am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

WINGNUT DOOFUS OF THE DAY

hey just asking questions but Here is Proof of Obama Califate!!!!1

257 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 8:13:31am

re: #254 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

BarbWire!!!!11

Let’s see how long before that one blocks me.

258 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 20, 2015 8:17:49am

re: #247 Sionainn

Thanks!

259 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 8:17:58am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

260 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 20, 2015 8:17:59am

re: #252 Justanotherhuman

Thanks!

261 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 20, 2015 8:19:12am

re: #128 lawhawk

Rauner is going to do the same to Illinois.

262 ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2015 8:19:12am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I would not go there, but when they talk about teaching “critical thinking” they mean “criticizing everything Obama supports”.

I hope not, but with the way the world is going and the thinking in this country, it might not be a big leap.

Let me ask it this way. How many Americans right now would love to see some kind of total elimination of Muslims?

I’m not trying to be overly dramatic, just pointing out that things always start the same way in incremental steps and then along comes the one person, or one instance that kick starts the whole ugly process.

And I do hope no one thinks I am thinking that way myself. I am talking about the ugliness we all are seeing. I bet we would all be surprised how many would answer my question above with a “hell yeah!”

263 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 8:19:36am
264 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 8:20:39am

re: #261 GlutenFreeJesus

Rauner is going to do the same to Illinois.

Is the Illinois legislature at least still Dem, or one house of it?

265 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 8:21:19am

re: #262 ObserverArt

I hope not, but with the way the world is going and the thinking in this country, it might not be a big leap.

Let me ask it this way. How many Americans right now would love to see some kind of total elimination of Muslims?

The point of a lot of right wing journalism seems to be based on getting us used to the idea that Islam = existential threat to USA

And it is scary how well it is working.

266 ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2015 8:24:45am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

What is the existential threat posed by these people?

“It is a threat to our Christian Beliefs™.”

Yeah, that is all it is. Stupid, but it is being taught in many a fundie church. Listen to the judges like Alabama’s Roy Moore and what is going on in Texas.

You know, everyone is worried about Obama not stating we are in a religious war. Seems to me they (fundies) are spoiling for all kinds of wars. That is why they are pissed at Obama. He isn’t calling for that all out war.

They want it bad. What will stop them? Got me, I can’t think like that.

267 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 8:26:20am

Gawd, my neighbor just came over and said someone went into her unlocked car and took some money (probably not much) she had in her console. Also that my grandson’s gas tank was open, so I had to go out and deal with it since he’s sleeping, The cap was tight, so I hope it wasn’t tampered with. Locked it up.

OTOH, this is the same neighbor whose car has also been gone into (as well as her apt which she leaves unlocked more often than not), and some of it is the drama since her son has more “frenemies” than not. From now on, all vehicles will be locked!

268 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 8:27:01am

Let Dim Jim’s BFF Kristinn explain it to you libtards:

269 b_sharp  Feb 20, 2015 8:27:05am

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

Hey, you know we’re not used to this crap. : )

And since I’m turning 74 today, I’m beginning to realize why old people go to FL from up north. : ) But even FL isn’t all that tropical right now. When I lived in Miami as a teen, we had no heat or A/C. I hated FL because I like the change of seasons, but this is ridiculous…

Happy frozen birthday cake day.

270 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 8:30:54am

re: #268 The Vicious Babushka

Let Dim Jim’s BFF Kristinn explain it to you libtards:

Dim Jim, Kristinn and ccj are basically 7th graders.

271 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 8:32:23am

Explains the training needed to run the Twitter account “Studies in crap.”

272 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 8:35:37am

Holy moly…

273 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 8:37:18am

Putin rattling swords…

Russian President Putin: No one should have the illusion they can gain military superiority over Russia - Interfax reports - @Reuters
end of alert

274 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 8:37:22am

re: #272 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, that’s pretty impressive, but even moreso is watching the ice fall as the falls warm up. Was in Yellowstone and saw a huge chunk fall off the Lower Falls. I didn’t have my camera handy but got to enjoy the moment. One moment the ice cone was there. The next, it was gone.

275 ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2015 8:38:16am

re: #270 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Dim Jim, Kristinn and ccj are basically 7th graders.

Dangerous 7th graders.

Never underestimate how dangerous they and all the others like them buying into their thinking can be.

The biggest lesson for any individual to learn in life is do not ever think anyone else thinks like you. Matter of fact, trust they do not think like you and get set to never be surprised by how far out there someone can be. It’s just to easy too discount them only to get bitten by the stupid.

276 lawhawk  Feb 20, 2015 8:39:43am
277 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 8:42:27am

re: #276 lawhawk

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Even GW Bush could not get elected today with that approach.

278 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 8:44:06am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Even GW Bush could not get elected today with that approach.

dubyah would be seen as a moderate today.

279 allegro  Feb 20, 2015 8:46:49am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

dubyah would be seen as a moderate today.

Dubyah would be whatever his puppet masters told him to be.

280 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 8:47:13am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

dubyah would be seen as a moderate today.

The only things about him I supported were his approach to Immigration and his refusal to pronounce a blanket condemnation of Islam

Just try that in the modern GOP and see how far you get.

281 Joe Bacon  Feb 20, 2015 8:47:38am

It’s just so nice to get up in the morning and see this epic smackdown of SCREWdy in the New York Daily News!

nydailynews.com

282 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 8:48:46am

Kristinn is on a Derproll today

283 Great White Snark  Feb 20, 2015 8:49:38am

re: #273 Justanotherhuman

Putin rattling swords…

Russian President Putin: No one should have the illusion they can gain military superiority over Russia - Interfax reports - @Reuters
end of alert

If only it was the end of the alert…

284 ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2015 8:51:02am

re: #279 allegro

Dubyah would be whatever his puppet masters told him to be.

Exactly.

Are people already forgetting what he got this country into?

If not for us and Iraq…there may well not be an ISIS/ISIL.

Later lizards…gotta get busy.

285 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 8:51:46am

Ukraine crisis: A young mother from Debaltseve’s first-hand account of surviving in a basement with 25 other people during shelling

independent.co.uk

286 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 8:53:55am

If you don’t follow @PoliticalAnt, he is relentless in smacking down wingnuts. He can carry on a conversation for weeks, and he never loses his temper or blocks anyone.

287 BeachDem  Feb 20, 2015 8:54:12am

re: #236 lawhawk

Safe reset mode for Giuliani means noun, verb, 9/11.

I also like Charles P. Pierce’s new nicknames for Rudy:

The Combover Trump
and
A noun. A verb. And a tiny little bird that pops out at the top of every hour.

288 WhatEVs  Feb 20, 2015 8:59:58am

re: #203 bratwurst

Wow, Kevin D. WIlliamson of National Review has checked in with a surprisingly nuanced and thoughtful piece on the Rudy Giuliani “Obama doesn’t love America” controversy!
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Just kidding…it is more of the same old shit:

Does Barack Obama love his country? Call me a rube for saying so, but it’s a fair question.

Ok, Kevin, you are a rube…and a fuckwit to boot.

There is such a big push to sell the National Review, it is everywhere I go (and not from Google Ads). I do surveys for points/money, and NR is always their “suggested” or “…of the month” option.

This started about two or three months ago. It is everywhere.

289 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 9:04:12am

What happens when Rs run a state for a while. And allow outside groups to actually write this legislation. Go to hell, Kansas.

Kansas Senate approves proposed ban on 2nd-trimester abortion procedure - @AP
kansascity.com

290 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:06:22am

A wingnut is taking me to task about a Fake Quote that I debunked last year, claims that because he found it on the Internet it must be correct.

291 Eventual Carrion  Feb 20, 2015 9:08:30am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

A wingnut is taking me to task about a Fake Quote that I debunked last year, claims that because he found it on the Internet it must be correct.

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He needs to google “Space Alien visitors”, that will really blow his mind and send him to the basement to hide.

292 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 9:09:17am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The only things about him I supported were his approach to Immigration and his refusal to pronounce a blanket condemnation of Islam

Just try that in the modern GOP and see how far you get.

His actions on HIV in Africa is one of the few positive things I can say about the man.

293 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 9:09:41am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

A wingnut is taking me to task about a Fake Quote that I debunked last year, claims that because he found it on the Internet it must be correct.

Are random Internet findings are totally the Valid but ur snopes.com is liberal smear site!!!1

294 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 9:10:31am

re: #238 Justanotherhuman

Happy Birthday!

295 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:14:01am

Dim Jim’s OUTRAGE OF THE DAY!!!!1!!!!!

NEEDS MOAR BENGHAZI!!!!11!!1!!!!!

296 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 9:15:44am

Give her the maximum. All that BS about “faith and family” rings false. She knew what she was doing all along.

Maureen McDonnell to take stand in sentencing

nbc12.com

297 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 9:16:31am

re: #250 wrenchwench

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The GOP’s transition to a white nationalist party is occurring more rapidly than I anticipated.

I suspect by 2016, the GOP will be a white people’s party, and they will be pretty much open about that fact.

298 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 9:16:36am

re: #294 Dr Lizardo

Thanks! Enjoying that warm weather, I take it? : )

299 allegro  Feb 20, 2015 9:17:34am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

The GOP’s transition to a white nationalist party is occurring more rapidly than I anticipated.

I suspect by 2016, the GOP will be a white people’s party, and they will be pretty much open about that fact.

They aren’t that now? Holy moly.

300 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:18:27am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

The GOP’s transition to a white nationalist party is occurring more rapidly than I anticipated.

I suspect by 2016, the GOP will be a white people’s party, and they will be pretty much open about that fact.

HURR HURR HEAR IS ARE BEN CARSON & ALLEN WEST!!!!11!! DEMOCRATS IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!11!! BYRDBYRDBYRDBYRDBYRD!!!!

301 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 9:18:40am

re: #299 allegro

They aren’t that now? Holy moly.

Haha, they’re just warming up. By 2016, the color of their shirts will change dramatically.

302 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 9:18:45am

re: #291 Eventual Carrion

He needs to google “Space Alien visitors”, that will really blow his mind and send him to the basement to hide.

Possibly related:

303 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 9:18:48am

re: #298 Justanotherhuman

Thanks! Enjoying that warm weather, I take it? : )

Indeed I am. Though if the Czech Meteorological Agency is right, next month should be one of the warmest on record, with an average high of 60 F.

304 Great White Snark  Feb 20, 2015 9:19:06am

re: #149 Dr. Matt

Honest question-What then of all these guys that sat far from the fighting in Baghdad, or Kabul, or Saigon and report(ed) from “the war zone”? Must be a hundred guys that should be fired by that measure.

305 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 9:19:47am

re: #299 allegro

They aren’t that now? Holy moly.

They’re getting there. I figured it wouldn’t be until about 2020. So it’s going faster than I thought it would.

306 No Country For Old Haters  Feb 20, 2015 9:20:25am

re: #268 The Vicious Babushka

Let Dim Jim’s BFF Kristinn explain it to you libtards:

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307 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 9:20:44am

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

Dim Jim’s OUTRAGE OF THE DAY!!!!1!!!!!

NEEDS MOAR BENGHAZI!!!!11!!1!!!!!

Something tells me, and I know I’m going out on a limb here, that Dim Jim is misunderstandering whatever it is he’s trying to say.

308 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:23:19am

HURR HURR EVEN IF JEFFERSON DIDN’T SAY IT, IT STILL TEH ETERNAL TROOF!!!!!!!11!!!

309 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 9:24:30am

Here’s that damned serpent analogy again…

Maureen McDonnell, at sentencing hearing: ‘I am the one who allowed the serpent into the mansion. The venom has poisoned my family…and the Commonwealth’ - @NBC12
see original on twitter.com

Sorry, Maureen, sweetie, did the “serpent” get all the goodies? Nope, you and the rest of your family did.

310 Dr Lizardo  Feb 20, 2015 9:24:59am

re: #308 The Vicious Babushka

By that person’s reckoning, Somalia must be the most LIBERTIEST!! place on the planet.

311 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 20, 2015 9:25:19am

re: #308 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR EVEN IF JEFFERSON DIDN’T SAY IT, IT STILL TEH ETERNAL TROOF!!!!!!!11!!!

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“Less government means more personal liberty.”

Sounds like something the empowered white male would say with no understanding that a lot of people had very limited personal liberty until government stepped in.

312 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:25:49am

This is the disputed quote BTW:

Quotation: “When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”

When you think about it, it really doesn’t make any sense. Government IS the people.

313 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 9:25:50am

re: #308 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR EVEN IF JEFFERSON DIDN’T SAY IT, IT STILL TEH ETERNAL TROOF!!!!!!!11!!!

And to demonstrate the faultless logic of this fact Here is Are Abortion Ban Bill for Liberty!!!1

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314 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 20, 2015 9:27:23am

re: #312 The Vicious Babushka

This is the disputed quote BTW:

Quotation: “When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”

When you think about it, it really doesn’t make any sense. Government IS the people.

Out of context it’s pablum.

315 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 9:27:37am

Only 12 months? Where were the Republican cries for tougher sentencing? Oh, wait…

Maureen McDonnell, wife of ex-Virginia governor, is sentenced to 12 months in prison in corruption case - @WAVY_News
see original on twitter.com

Next.

316 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:29:03am
317 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:30:11am

HURR HURR!!!!!

318 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:30:27am

He’ll be bringing up Byrd any minute now.

319 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:31:08am
320 WhatEVs  Feb 20, 2015 9:32:05am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

I usually use Twitter on my iPhone app. Every time I go to the Twitter page on a computer I wonder how people use it. You can’t follow conversations easily, you can’t edit a tweet when RTing. Maybe I don’t understand their GUI but I am lost.

Do all of you use the Twitter GUI?

321 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 9:32:15am
322 b_sharp  Feb 20, 2015 9:34:28am

re: #320 WhatEVs

I usually use Twitter on my iPhone app. Every time I go to the Twitter page on a computer I wonder how people use it. You can’t follow conversations easily, you can’t edit a tweet when RTing. Maybe I don’t understand their GUI but I am lost.

Do all of you use the Twitter GUI?

Most people here use tweetdeck on the computer I believe.

323 allegro  Feb 20, 2015 9:35:57am

I can try very hard to accept that not all TPs are racists, really, really hard. Unfortunately I have yet to meet one who didn’t make a seriously ugly racist statement within a few minutes of conversation. Living in Texas, even in the commie bastion of Houston, my sample size is considerable.

324 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:36:48am

re: #320 WhatEVs

I usually use Twitter on my iPhone app. Every time I go to the Twitter page on a computer I wonder how people use it. You can’t follow conversations easily, you can’t edit a tweet when RTing. Maybe I don’t understand their GUI but I am lost.

Do all of you use the Twitter GUI?

I use Tweetdeck.

I deleted the Tweetdeck app on my phone because it sucked. I only use Twitter on my phone to Tweet a photo, everything else is on Tweetdeck.

325 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 9:36:50am

Jaysus, don’t we have enough idiots in this country?

Illinois Governor Seeking To Raid Higher Education Budget A Month After Being Sworn In

thinkprogress.org

326 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:37:57am

These people really believe they can’t possibly be racist if they use Mia Love and Ben Carson as their magic shields.

327 b_sharp  Feb 20, 2015 9:38:43am

re: #326 The Vicious Babushka

These people really believe they can’t possibly be racist if they use Mia Love and Ben Carson as their magic shields.

They seem to have a problem with understanding context.

328 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 9:39:35am

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

Obama Admin to Force Faith Groups to Provide Abortions to Unaccompanied Illegal Alien Youths

Preventing anchor babies…should be welcomed.

329 Skip Intro  Feb 20, 2015 9:40:08am

And the winner of the “Who will be the first columnist to bring up Cattle Futures” award goes to the Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin.

This is as clueless as it is typical of Hillary Clinton, who never met anyone whose money she was unwilling to take and never understood the appearance of impropriety (cattle futures, anyone?). What the statement ignores, blatantly so, is that we are not simply talking about any foundation. This is money going to fatten the coffers and fund the lavish travel of a woman who wants to run for president.

washingtonpost.com

330 WhatEVs  Feb 20, 2015 9:40:30am

re: #324 The Vicious Babushka

I use Tweetdeck.

I deleted the Tweetdeck app on my phone because it sucked. I only use Twitter on my phone to Tweet a photo, everything else is on Tweetdeck.

re: #322 b_sharp

Thanks. I will try that.

I use Tweets on my iPhone and love it. Twitter’s GUI confuses the hell out of me.

331 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 9:43:00am

New York City officials issue weather alert for ‘dangerously cold temperatures’ Friday night, and mix of snow, sleet, freezing rain Saturday through Sunday - Office of Emergency Management
end of alert

332 WhatEVs  Feb 20, 2015 9:43:08am

re: #330 WhatEVs

And my antivirus blocked Tweetdeck.

Oh well.

333 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 9:44:26am
334 Justanotherhuman  Feb 20, 2015 9:44:44am

Later, Lizards!

335 b_sharp  Feb 20, 2015 9:44:45am

re: #332 WhatEVs

And my antivirus blocked Tweetdeck.

Oh well.

Turn your antivirus off temporarily if you can’t get it to accept tweetdeck.
What is it saying about tweetdeck?

336 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:45:27am

re: #332 WhatEVs

And my antivirus blocked Tweetdeck.

Oh well.

Tweetdeck online or download?

337 WhatEVs  Feb 20, 2015 9:47:09am

re: #335 b_sharp

Turn your antivirus off temporarily if you can’t get it to accept tweetdeck.
What is it saying about tweetdeck?

That there is an exe that is AdWare.

338 EmmaAnne  Feb 20, 2015 9:47:40am

re: #292 Dr. Matt

His actions on HIV in Africa is one of the few positive things I can say about the man.

I never got the feeling that he was personally either sexist or racist, though he had no problem hanging out with people who were.

And, yeah that about exhausts the good things I have to say about W.

339 WhatEVs  Feb 20, 2015 9:48:11am

re: #336 The Vicious Babushka

Tweetdeck online or download?

Download. I’ll look for it in a browser.

Firefox is giving me fits lately. Doesn’t want to work worth a shit these days.

340 b_sharp  Feb 20, 2015 9:48:28am

re: #337 WhatEVs

That there is an exe that is AdWare.

Are you downloading it from tweetdeck.com?

341 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2015 9:48:49am

re: #329 Skip Intro

And the winner of the “Who will be the first columnist to bring up Cattle Futures” award goes to the Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin.

This is as clueless as it is typical of Hillary Clinton, who never met anyone whose money she was unwilling to take and never understood the appearance of impropriety (cattle futures, anyone?). What the statement ignores, blatantly so, is that we are not simply talking about any foundation. This is money going to fatten the coffers and fund the lavish travel of a woman who wants to run for president.

washingtonpost.com

Did she pay for the grazing rights on those cattle futures?

342 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:48:51am

re: #339 WhatEVs

Download. I’ll look for it in a browser.

Firefox is giving me fits lately. Doesn’t want to work worth a shit these days.

https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/#

343 BeachDem  Feb 20, 2015 9:49:59am

re: #329 Skip Intro

And the winner of the “Who will be the first columnist to bring up Cattle Futures” award goes to the Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin.

This is as clueless as it is typical of Hillary Clinton, who never met anyone whose money she was unwilling to take and never understood the appearance of impropriety (cattle futures, anyone?). What the statement ignores, blatantly so, is that we are not simply talking about any foundation. This is money going to fatten the coffers and fund the lavish travel of a woman who wants to run for president.

washingtonpost.com

As Charles P. Pierce describes Jen’s political savvy:

As we get closer and closer to the 2016 presidential election, it is time once again to keep the ol’ weather-eye on Jennifer Rubin, the Likudnik prom queen and professional Person Who Is Always Wrong. …

You may recall that, throughout the last presidential cycle, Jen forever was telling us that America was moving toward elopement with that hunka-hunka burnin’ love, Willard Romney. That didn’t work out so well. This time, though, Jen’s being cautious about dragging her heart around. …

One thing she does know. Hillary Clinton already has blown it.

esquire.com

344 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 9:51:20am

Immediately there is wingnut butthurt==>

345 Iwouldprefernotto  Feb 20, 2015 9:53:36am

Yes, Larry King is still alive…

346 BeachDem  Feb 20, 2015 9:55:19am

re: #344 The Vicious Babushka

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Raw Story’s headline describes it thusly:

Rep. Steve Cohen wins the Internet with devastating ‘3/5′ tweet on Giuliani’s racism

347 wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2015 9:57:53am
348 WhatEVs  Feb 20, 2015 9:58:19am

re: #340 b_sharp

Are you downloading it from tweetdeck.com?

Thanks!

I have a meeting now but am going to try that. I used Google and was taken elsewhere.

Much appreciated!!

349 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 10:02:32am

This wingnut is trying to convince me he’s not racist==>

350 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 20, 2015 10:03:44am
351 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 10:04:24am

re: #333 wrenchwench

Hurr hurr libtards can’t take a joke always saying were racists and haters when were not just joking!!!111

352 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 10:04:38am

re: #304 Great White Snark

Honest question-What then of all these guys that sat far from the fighting in Baghdad, or Kabul, or Saigon and report(ed) from “the war zone”? Must be a hundred guys that should be fired by that measure.

Big difference. There was no war going on Buenos Aires. O’Reilly witness a riot in Buenos Aires and that somehow qualifies as seeing combat.

353 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 20, 2015 10:05:29am

re: #344 The Vicious Babushka

Typical racist tweet from @RepCohen. He’s right out of the Robert Byrd/LBJ school of racism/racial exploitation.

LBJ and Robert Byrd were responsible for the 3/5ths clause?

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354 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 10:06:35am

re: #338 EmmaAnne

I never got the feeling that he was personally either sexist or racist, though he had no problem hanging out with people who were.

And, yeah that about exhausts the good things I have to say about W.

I probably would have enjoyed drinking with the guy during his younger days. I have lots of friends from Texas and they love to have a good time. And with that: “that about exhausts the good things I have to say about W.” :)

355 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 20, 2015 10:17:50am

re: #333 wrenchwench

Giuliani’s reaction could have predicted as soon as he derogated Obama’s love of country, as could the reactions of his thick headed audience. The instruction manual for conservative pols could be written on a Post-it and leave room for a shopping list. And yet they’re still whipping our asses.

356 Great White Snark  Feb 20, 2015 10:17:58am

re: #352 Dr. Matt

It’s still sitting back in comfort in a “war zone” far from shots fired. But those other guys are not caught up a temporary outrage media frenzy. Not especially controversial pundits or uber paid anchors with the extra attention that garners.

It’s the “fiend of the week’ ratings game as transparently as can be. The two networks are coworking partners in getting views as much as they are competitors in that marketplace.

357 Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2015 10:26:22am

re: #356 Great White Snark

It’s still sitting back in comfort in a “war zone” far from shots fired. But those other guys are not caught up a temporary outrage media frenzy. Not especially controversial pundits or uber paid anchors with the extra attention that garners.

It’s the “fiend of the week’ ratings game as transparently as can be. The two networks are coworking partners in getting views as much as they are competitors in that marketplace.

No. He wasn’t in a “war zone”. The war was 1,000 miles away and the riot he witnessed was AFTER the war ended. If you can’t see this simple distinction, then I can’t help you. Your attempt to concern troll fucking sucks.

358 Great White Snark  Feb 20, 2015 10:38:44am

re: #357 Dr. Matt

No. He wasn’t in a “war zone”. The war was 1,000 miles away and the riot he witnessed was AFTER the war ended. If you can’t see this simple distinction, then I can’t help you. Your attempt to concern troll fucking sucks.

Concern Troll? No need to be a jerk. My position is media cynic. Sorry my outrage is not adequate in your view.


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