And Now, Inevitably, Rudy Giuliani Plays the Victim Card

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If you’ve watched right wing politics at all, Rudy Giuliani’s latest statements will come as no surprise — now he’s painting himself as a persecuted victim after his ugly comments that President Obama “doesn’t love America.”

The former New York mayor told CNN on Friday that the majority of the calls about his remarks have been supportive, including from Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a likely 2016 Republican presidential candidate.

But Giuliani also said that his office secretary had reported receiving death threats since POLITICO first published his remarks late Wednesday night. Giuliani didn’t tell CNN if he had alerted police to those calls, and a New York Police Department spokeswoman contacted Saturday said it is department policy not to release any information about potential victims.

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132 comments
1 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 21, 2015 11:40:56am

He is such a slime-snot.

2 b_sharp  Feb 21, 2015 11:41:49am

What you say has consequences. Who’d a thought?

3 b_sharp  Feb 21, 2015 11:42:07am

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

He is such a slime-snot.

Ewww. Yucky.

4 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 11:42:12am

Not a single Republican politician has had the guts to denounce these ugly racist comments.

5 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 21, 2015 11:42:43am

I can’t make baseless accusations without facing consequences? Boo, hoo, hoo, I’m a victim!!!

6 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 21, 2015 11:43:30am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Not a single Republican politician has had the guts to denounce these ugly racist comments.

They are too busy sitting on panels discussing their merits.

7 Jenner7  Feb 21, 2015 11:43:47am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Very telling, but not surprising.

8 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2015 11:44:06am

I can’t begin to imagine the RWNJ outrage if a prominent Liberal figure said Ted Cruz hates America.

9 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 21, 2015 11:44:34am

re: #3 b_sharp

Ewww. Yucky.

Good. I achieved the planned effect.

10 Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2015 11:44:36am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Not a single Republican politician has had the guts to denounce these ugly racist comments.

None of them wants to be the first to step up and take a bite out of the shit sandwich Rudy has served up.

11 b_sharp  Feb 21, 2015 11:44:49am

re: #6 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They are too busy sitting on panels discussing their merits.

And whining about those merits getting so little recognition.

12 b_sharp  Feb 21, 2015 11:45:29am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good. I achieved the planned effect.

So, how are you handling the crap the weather gods have sent you? How is your goat?

13 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2015 11:46:14am

The first one who condemns Giuliani blows up their chances for 2016. Not surprising everyone is staying quiet,

14 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 21, 2015 11:49:14am

re: #12 b_sharp

So, how are you handling the crap the weather gods have sent you? How is your goat?

Goat is still very unhappy.
But it’s 33F right now, and raining and snowing, resulting in a nasty freezing mess. I damned near had to tie down MrBWS to keep him from doing that guy thing: “I just want to see what the roads are like!” (Not with MY vehicle…it may have 4WD but that means nothing when there’s a thick layer of ice on the road.)

On the plus side, the waterline to the toilet tank thawed this morning.

15 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 11:51:13am
16 Teukka  Feb 21, 2015 11:52:56am

Off-topic, but this just came across my feeds. Someone is getting desperate, I’m just not sure who.

The Defense Minister stated willingness to sell arms in forged letter

Images of a letter in which Defence Minister Peter Hultqvist stated willingness to sell weapons to Ukraine, circulating on the net.

According to the letter writing Hultqvist the Ukrainian military wants to buy at least “twelve units” of artillery gun Archer.

- It is a forgery, says Hultqvist’s press secretary Marinette Nyh Radebo.

The letter is addressed to Magnus Ingesson, which according to the letter is president of BAE Systems Bofors AB. It was allegedly sent on January 19 this year.

The letter is written on government letterhead and signed by Peter Hultqvist’s signature.

Spread on Twitter

But it is a forgery, according to Marinette Nyh Radebo.

- I found the letter this morning and got in touch with my colleagues at the Ministry of Defence. We quickly realized that it was a forgery. Magnus Ingesson is not the president of the company and is also the letter written in English, she says.

The letter, which has been spread in several Swedish Twitter accounts, suggests that Sweden should sell weapons to Ukraine’s military forces. The letter thank Peter Hultqvist Magnus Ingesson because he allowed a presentation of the Archer artillery system.

“I am extremely grateful for your presentation for our Ukrainian partners,” writes Hultqvist, according to the letter.

It also says that Ukraine may order the “twelve units” and that Ukraine’s defense ministry is “satisfied with the operation” that could lead to “significant opportunities for BAE Systems Bofors AB.”

“I am sure you will manage this opportunity well. You have my congratulations and my full support in this matter,” writes Hultqvist according to the letter.

“Of course not good”

Peter Hultqvist has been informed of the letter but would not comment on the data for Aftonbladet.

- Of course it is not good that these things spread. It was also why I went out on my Twitter account and denied it, said Marinette Nyh Radebo.

The Ministry of Defence has not made any research to find out who is behind the letter.

- I’ve started talking to everyone involved. We will look at it on Monday to discuss how we can move forward.

It is unclear whether the Defense Department will take any legal action.

- It is also something we will discuss after the weekend.

Translation by Google(tm) Translate.

I’m willing to elaborate on the points as to why it is with very high likelihood a forgery upon request.

17 Varek Raith  Feb 21, 2015 11:53:33am

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Done.

18 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 11:53:56am

re: #17 Varek Raith

Thanks.

19 b_sharp  Feb 21, 2015 11:56:38am

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

Goat is still very unhappy.
But it’s 33F right now, and raining and snowing, resulting in a nasty freezing mess. I damned near had to tie down MrBWS to keep him from doing that guy thing: “I just want to see what the roads are like!” (Not with MY vehicle…it may have 4WD but that means nothing when there’s a thick layer of ice on the road.)

On the plus side, the waterline to the toilet tank thawed this morning.

Good to see things are thawing.

As someone who has owned nothing but 4x4s* since ‘85 I agree with your point. Icy roads are bad for all vehicles.

Full disclosure: * I own 2 vehicles now, a 4x4 and an all wheel drive.

20 DobermanBoston  Feb 21, 2015 11:58:29am

21 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 11:58:48am

Typical right wing bully. Can’t stand when he gets called out on his own bullshit.

22 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 11:59:21am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Not a single Republican politician has had the guts to denounce these ugly racist comments.

But of course. They have no integrity at all.

23 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:00:03pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

The first one who condemns Giuliani blows up their chances for 2016. Not surprising everyone is staying quiet,

Yep. It’s sad but true. Defending Obama may as well be defending ISIS to GOP primary voters.

24 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:02:08pm

You’re not allowed to believe that Barack Obama loves America and American values and be successful in today’s GOP. You have to believe he hates America and Americans and wants our nation to be taken over by Islamic terrorists because GOP primary voters want to believe any insidious lie about Obama possible.

25 Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2015 12:04:27pm

None of the 2016 hopefuls has the balls to stand up to Rudy or their party base, but you can be sure they’ll all tell us how “strong” they’ll be when facing foreign threats.

26 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 12:05:09pm

Meanwhile, Chuck C. was expressing his admiration for white supremacists again last night; he was on a roll all night.

Nicholas Wade is a former science writer for the New York Times who wrote a thoroughly discredited book making the case for “scientific racism.” Even the geneticists he used as sources renounced his nasty book.

That would be this Jason Richwine: littlegreenfootballs.com

And of course, Derbyshire.

27 A Cranky One  Feb 21, 2015 12:06:59pm

How to clean the snow off your vehicle using bass:

Wear earplugs!

28 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:07:21pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Chuck C. was expressing his admiration for white supremacists again last night; he was on a roll all night.

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Yeah poor Steyn and Derbyshire. Poor widdle white supremacists can’t catch a break in today’s conservative world.//

29 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:07:39pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

None of the 2016 hopefuls has the balls to stand up to Rudy or their party base, but you can be sure they’ll all tell us how “strong” they’ll be when facing foreign threats.

Of course.

30 A Cranky One  Feb 21, 2015 12:15:42pm

NY Times reviews Abbey Road in 1969, finds only 15 minutes worthwhile:

Abbey Road Review

31 bratwurst  Feb 21, 2015 12:15:55pm

Some interesting reflections from a CBS guy who was with Billo in Argentina:

32 Great White Snark  Feb 21, 2015 12:17:06pm

You guys might enjoy this quote

Rudy Giuliani’s fall from America’s Mayor

Rudy has devolved into this red meat Republican base ideologue who periodically seems to need self identification,” said Douglas Muzzio, a political scientist at Baruch College and a New York City media commentator. “Maybe it is Rudy in his dotage, where he has lost whatever boundaries he once had. He sounds like a bitter old man.”

Giuliani seems to be relishing his moment back in the spotlight.

33 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 21, 2015 12:19:06pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Not a single Republican politician has had the guts to denounce these ugly racist comments.

It started a long time ago when Republicans were afraid to challenge or even distance themselves from statements like this for fear of being shouted down at a town hall meeting by some Gadsen flag-bearing goombah in a tricorne hat.

That started an attention-grabbing race to the bottom, and they are still on their way down.

34 Dave In Austin  Feb 21, 2015 12:20:24pm

Indian Paintbrush…..

35 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:21:13pm

re: #32 Great White Snark

You guys might enjoy this quote

Rudy Giuliani’s fall from America’s Mayor

Hard to really argue with any of that. It is sad but he’s decided to become a demagogue.

36 PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2015 12:21:47pm

re: #34 Dave In Austin

I saw a robin a couple of days ago.

37 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 12:22:22pm

Back to Weigel’s steaming pile for a moment. Some of the more noxious segments:

The Walker cameo clearly turned this into a news-swallowing story

That’s some bullshit right there.

The Democrats egged it on.

The MBF makes its first appearance. And, yeah, great logic that the Dem reaction was to cover for DWS. Talk about bullshit mountain.

All Thursday, the offices of potential Republican candidates were asked to react to Rudy Giuliani. …a gaffe in the media capital of the world matters more than a gaffe in the hinterlands.

Ah, now it’s merely a “gaffe” and the media only created an idiotic frenzy because he said it in NY, not because it was an obnoxious, repulsive comment made by an obnoxious, repulsive has-been.

The media seemed to be making up rules as it went along. In 2008, Barack Obama said it was “unpatriotic” for George W. Bush to add trillions to the national debt. In 2004, Howard Dean warned Democratic voters that there was “a group of people around the President whose main allegiance is to each other and their ideology rather than to the United States.” And then there was Giuliani. When he spoke, we learned that it was off-limits for someone to question an opponent’s patriotism.

So much crap right there. Obama called out a POLICY, not a person’s “heart.” Rudy is not Obama’s opponent, and Obama is the fucking PRESIDENT, not some nameless politician. Holy mother of Pearl, Weigel, you are such an asshole.

This is a deep source of conservative frustration. They want to accuse Obama of radicalism…when they try, they’re accused of othering, and racism.”

Wah wah, poor misunderstood conservatives. Pro-tip, don’t want to be accused of racism? Don’t be a fucking racist.

All in all, it’s what I’ve come to expect from Weigel, who, though he will occasionally have a moment of clarity, is basically an apologist and an “splainer” for the right-wing. Spit.

bloomberg.com

38 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:22:23pm

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It started a long time ago when Republicans were afraid to challenge or even distance themselves from statements like this for fear of being shouted down at a town hall meeting by some Gadsen flag-bearing goombah in a tricorne hat.

That started an attention-grabbing race to the bottom, and they are still on their way down.

Yep. And then we have to hear from their apologists about how they’re just doing it so the quote on quote really insane ones don’t take over. It would be nice if just once a Republican office holder called out the hateful rhetoric on President Obama but that’s asking too much I guess of them because rah rah party.

39 lawhawk  Feb 21, 2015 12:24:03pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

But remember, you’re the bad guy because you exposed the right wing asshattery and hate mongering and wanted nothing to do with it. Meanwhile Chuckles pines for the days when those xenophobes and racists were still at NRO spreading their noxious beliefs on a wider platform than otherwise should be accorded to someone whose views mesh with Stormfront.

40 A Cranky One  Feb 21, 2015 12:25:52pm

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It started a long time ago when Republicans were afraid to challenge or even distance themselves from statements like this for fear of being shouted down at a town hall meeting by some Gadsen flag-bearing goombah in a tricorne hat.

That started an attention-grabbing race to the bottom, and they are still on their way down.

The Republican party has become a religion, a not surprising result of letting the religious right have a key role in the party. It’s all about the ideology, the dogma and nothing else. Anyone who questions the dogma is treated as a heretic and primaried.

If you aren’t the right kind of Christian, don’t reject science, or actually deal with reality instead of the party line you become an apostate. This has crushed any disagreement and prevented any actual governing, since governing requires compromise and you don’t compromise with the devil.

Republicans need to be reminded that it’s our country and not their church.

41 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 12:26:00pm

re: #37 BeachDem

That’s a horrible article. Outright denying the obvious racism that’s all over the right wing — and citing Michelle Malkin to do it. Freaking unreal. Note that Weigel has always had a soft spot for “scientific racism” arguments.

42 lawhawk  Feb 21, 2015 12:27:07pm

re: #37 BeachDem

43 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:28:21pm

Conservatives are the type of people that will slander or libel you and then accuse you of being the mean one when you call them out on it. There’s no such thing as actual accountability if you’re a conservative. Rudy has no desire to think “Gee I may have stepped into it by saying the president (of all people) doesn’t love America”, nope, doubles down on it and then has the nerve to make his critics out to be the ones in the wrong.

44 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 21, 2015 12:28:49pm

re: #40 A Cranky One

The Republican party has become a religion, a not surprising result of letting the religious right have a key role in the party. It’s all about the ideology, the dogma and nothing else. Anyone who questions the dogma is treated as a heretic and primaried.

If you aren’t the right kind of Christian, don’t reject science, or actually deal with reality instead of the party line you become an apostate. This has crushed any disagreement and prevented any actual governing, since governing requires compromise and you don’t compromise with the devil.

Republicans need to be reminded that it’s our country and not their church.

Hell, they are even turning on Grover Norquist because he has an Arab wife. Seems that hot Asians are okay, but not hot Arabs…

45 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 21, 2015 12:30:35pm

I wish this asshole had a Twitter account.

46 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:31:23pm

re: #42 lawhawk

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And there’s no sign of that changing. No one in the GOP had the courage to say “You know the President and I may differ on some policies but it’s absurd for Mayor Giuliani to suggest that he doesn’t love America or Americans.” Is that really so fucking hard for them? And the answer is yes, yes it is because they through enabling a base of bigots have created an environment where any praise of President Obama by a conservative politician may as well be the worst thing you can do as a Republican these days. It’s well to remember how Marco Rubio managed to beat Charlie Crist in the primary that got him to the Senate by playing to outrage about then Governor Crist giving President Obama a friendly hug. It’s funny to think that McCain’s slogan was “Country First” in 2008 because his party has been about everything but that since President Obama’s first day as president.

47 Mattand  Feb 21, 2015 12:32:26pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

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Reported.

48 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 12:33:18pm
49 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 12:33:36pm

re: #47 Mattand

Reported.

Thank you.

50 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 12:34:03pm

re: #32 Great White Snark

You guys might enjoy this quote

Rudy Giuliani’s fall from America’s Mayor

I wish I knew who was the first to call Rudy “America’s Mayor,” as I would like to throttle him/her for even starting that crap. I’m an American and I never considered him my mayor. YMMV

51 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:34:31pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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She also made her bones by being an apologist for interning the Japanese. She hasn’t called out any racism. She just cries racism when liberals call her out for being the bigot she is.

52 blueraven  Feb 21, 2015 12:35:20pm

re: #31 bratwurst

Some interesting reflections from a CBS guy who was with Billo in Argentina:

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Excellent!

53 Mattand  Feb 21, 2015 12:35:25pm

re: #37 BeachDem

Wah wah, poor misunderstood conservatives. Pro-tip, don’t want to be accused of racism? Don’t be a fucking racist.

I can’t tell you how many “independents” and conservatives I’ve interacted with since 2008 who say this shit, then make the astonishingly moronic defense that somehow the 1st Amendment absolves them from bigotry.

54 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:35:37pm

re: #50 BeachDem

I wish I knew who was the first to call Rudy “America’s Mayor,” as I would like to throttle him/her for even starting that crap. I’m an American and I never considered him my mayor. YMMV

Somewhere somehow has a “Don’t Blame me I voted for DInkins” bumper sticker. I never really liked that title either honestly. I didn’t dislike Rudy but I didn’t like the deification of him either post 9/11.

55 Mattand  Feb 21, 2015 12:37:13pm

re: #36 PhillyPretzel

I saw a robin a couple of days ago.

I actually found out that not all robins migrate. Apparently, some of the stupider ones stay put, even for the winter.

Once I learned that, I started seeing them all year round.

56 Amory Blaine  Feb 21, 2015 12:37:21pm

Right to work bill won’t affect police or firefighter unions

The proposed right to work bill moving quickly through the Legislature will affect only private-sector unions.

The proposal only affects workers in private businesses, both the language of the bill and comments from Republicans like Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald of Juneau show.

The measure would prohibit unions and private businesses from reaching contracts that require workers to pay labor dues or fees.

I finally have a vacation destination

Labor leaders plan Tuesday rally to oppose right-to-work legislation

Labor leaders are planning a rally Tuesday at Wisconsin’s state Capitol to protest an effort by lawmakers to fast-track so-called right-to-work legislation.

57 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:37:22pm

re: #53 Mattand

I can’t tell you how many “independents” and conservatives I’ve interacted with since 2008 who say this shit, then make the astonishingly moronic defense that somehow the 1st Amendment absolves them from bigotry.

Oh they have the first amendment right to be bigots all they want but I also have a right to call them bigoted assholes. Conservatives think free speech means “I can say whatever bigoted crap I want” with no consequences when it’s just that they don’t have to worry about the government punishing them. I can punish them by something as simple as a removing on Facebook or telling them to get their retrograde bullshit out of my face.

58 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 12:37:42pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Yep. And then we have to hear from their apologists about how they’re just doing it so the quote on quote really insane ones don’t take over. It would be nice if just once a Republican office holder called out the hateful rhetoric on President Obama but that’s asking too much I guess of them because rah rah party.

And they raise a lot of money on it—see Wilson, Joe “You lie.”

59 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:38:02pm

re: #58 BeachDem

And they raise a lot of money on it—see Wilson, Joe “You lie.”

Yep. Scumbag assholes.

60 BeenHereAwhile  Feb 21, 2015 12:38:25pm

re: #19 b_sharp

Good to see things are thawing.

As someone who has owned nothing but 4x4s* since ‘85 I agree with your point. Icy roads are bad for all vehicles.

Full disclosure: * I own 2 vehicles now, a 4x4 and an all wheel drive.

You can be an experienced ice and snow conditions driver, in an all wheel drive vehicle with locking center and rear differentials, but that won’t stop the other driver from doing something stupid, and bumper cars with you.

61 Mattand  Feb 21, 2015 12:39:31pm

re: #50 BeachDem

I wish I knew who was the first to call Rudy “America’s Mayor,” as I would like to throttle him/her for even starting that crap. I’m an American and I never considered him my mayor. YMMV

Probably some idiot who says the Northeast part of the US isn’t the “true” America.

62 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:42:27pm

re: #61 Mattand

Probably some idiot who says the Northeast part of the US isn’t the “true” America.

Agh those are the worst. That gets me thinking about when I knew I despised Sarah Palin. She was campaigning for McCain a more conservative part of Virginia and she talked about how “happy” she was to be in “Real Virginia.” It just showed me how divisive that campaign was that they would talk about that. Now contrast that with Obama and Biden who treated all Virginians whether they were more affluent Northerners like myself, ones from the more poor and rural west which sadly do embrace the “real Virginia” bs, and the many military members we have in the Tides. The whole “Real America” crap done by the right and Republican Party is one of the biggest reasons why I despise them. They’ve done everything possible to sow the seeds of hate and resentment.

63 Joe Bacon  Feb 21, 2015 12:44:08pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Done, Charles!

64 Dave In Austin  Feb 21, 2015 12:49:14pm

Overlord shall not be moved……
…

65 electrotek  Feb 21, 2015 12:49:29pm

Ask people who used to be part of NYC’s nightlife in the 1990s: they all hated his guts. After all, he was responsible for closing down one of New York’s premier venues in May 2001, Twilo:

The Giuliani administration has been trying to close Twilo since at least November 1998, when the city, citing the drug overdose of a patron, filed a lawsuit declaring the club a public nuisance. City officials contend that clubs like Twilo and the Tunnel, another West 27th Street establishment, do not do enough to prevent the use and sale of drugs like ecstasy and GHB, or gamma hydroxybutyrate.

But the clubs have just as vehemently responded that they are doing their part, hiring private security officers, including some who work undercover, to try to prevent drug use and violence. Mr. Sullivan said the fact that the state courts have allowed Twilo to stay open despite the lawsuit was proof that the club was well managed and dedicated to preventing drug sales.

Again, fuck Giuliani and his asshat supporters.

66 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 12:50:02pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

I knew I despised her when she first opened her yap in Dayton, the day McCain announced her, and she said,

“Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America, but it turns out the women of America aren’t finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all,”

As if.

67 Lidane  Feb 21, 2015 12:52:12pm

Giuliani triples down on the stupid:

AYERS! WRIGHT! DAVIS! ALINSKY! ZOMG!

Rudy’s acting like POTUS is running for a third term. WTF.

68 electrotek  Feb 21, 2015 12:53:10pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Not a single Republican politician has had the guts to denounce these ugly racist comments.

And they have the nerve to call Democrats gutless?

They should take a good look in the mirror.

69 Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2015 12:54:09pm

re: #67 Lidane

Giuliani triples down on the stupid:

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AYERS! WRIGHT! DAVIS! ALINSKY! ZOMG!

Rudy’s acting like POTUS is running for a third term. WTF.

The man really does not know when to stop digging that hole he’s in.

70 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:54:31pm

re: #67 Lidane

Giuliani triples down on the stupid:

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AYERS! WRIGHT! DAVIS! ALINSKY! ZOMG!

Rudy’s acting like POTUS is running for a third term. WTF.

Honestly I find this to be a relief. For one, he’s showing his true colors in that he’s a total asshole that has nothing to offer the conversation and two I find his honesty here refreshing rather than seeing a typical non-apology-apology you know the type- “I’m sorry if I offended”. He’s just making himself look more and more stupid and woefully out of touch with anyone who isn’t someone who rages everytime Obama’s name comes up.

71 Eventual Carrion  Feb 21, 2015 12:54:42pm

re: #61 Mattand

Probably some idiot who says the Northeast part of the US isn’t the “true” America.

You’d think since we were the original 13 we would get a break.

72 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:55:28pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

The man really does not know when to stop digging that hole he’s in.

He doesn’t care. Not like he actually has to stand up for election. As I said, I honestly find it sort of refreshing because I know now what a pathetic little man this guy is and he’s honest about it.

73 lawhawk  Feb 21, 2015 12:55:52pm

It’ll be a cold day in hell before the GOP does anything to expel the racists that make up its ranks and up into the top tier of its party (when you are a current/former Presidential candidate, that’s putting yourself in the top tier). That includes Giuliani and Jindal, among others.

It might be cold enough outside for the Great Falls to freeze up (well, the water’s still flowing, but there’s a nice ice cone that’s developed all around), but we haven’t gotten the GOP to change its stripes.

I got to the falls just before it started snowing, and it began to come down as we left. We just didn’t want to miss the freeze-over. I’d been looking for that photo for years but never had the time to get it.

74 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 12:57:06pm

re: #71 Eventual Carrion

You’d think since we were the original 13 we would get a break.

Heh that’s what I always thought of when they hate on Massachusetts. I mean Massachusetts. Uh home of Lexington and Concord, home of John and Sam Adams and John Hancock, etc? Yeah such a terrible place.// I remember when Romney first ran for president in 2008 that he ragged on his state just to score brownie points with the Massachusetts hate that exists in the GOP base and I just thought it pathetic given Massachusetts’ contributions to our society.

75 electrotek  Feb 21, 2015 12:58:06pm

So Melissa Melendez, who is an Assemblywoman for CA’s 67th District, exploited the murder of Kayla Jean Mueller with the despicable hashtag and decided to claim victimhood status by raising money on the backs of the backlash against her bigoted comments.

If she was truly horrified over her murder, she should have also called out her fellow wingnuts for smearing her in the wake of her death.

76 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 1:00:48pm

You know, I’ve never heard a Democratic presidential candidate talk about the more conservative parts of the country as mere “flyover country” or act like the people there aren’t any less American I do repeatedly though hear Republican candidates put down the “liberal coasts” because you know if you live in a liberal area, you clearly aren’t really an American nor do you believe in American values.

77 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Feb 21, 2015 1:01:45pm

re: #55 Mattand

I actually found out that not all robins migrate. Apparently, some of the stupider ones stay put, even for the winter.

Once I learned that, I started seeing them all year round.

I actually saw a robin in my neighborhood in eastern Mass. just a couple of weeks ago. Given the weather we’ve been having, that may establish a new record for robin stupidity.

78 electrotek  Feb 21, 2015 1:01:54pm
“I was met with a fury of hostility and angry replies from people on the left accusing me of spreading hate,” the Republican from Lake Elsinore in Riverside County wrote in her fundraising plea. “Amazing how my words can ignite a media storm, but there are people being murdered across the ocean, and no one is up in arms about that.”

“If you agree with me that we cannot turn a blind eye, and we must stand up to these Islamic savages, then I hope you will join me today,” she added, before asking for $15, $25, $50 or more.

Source

So is this woman going to donate all of the proceeds to Mueller’s family? If she as she states is genuinely appalled and sympathetic to her fate?

79 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 1:03:51pm

re: #78 electrotek

Source

So is this woman going to donate all of the proceeds to Mueller’s family? If she as she states is genuinely appalled and sympathetic to her fate?

I doubt it. This is fucking disgusting yet typical.

80 ObserverArt  Feb 21, 2015 1:11:34pm

re: #50 BeachDem

I wish I knew who was the first to call Rudy “America’s Mayor,” as I would like to throttle him/her for even starting that crap. I’m an American and I never considered him my mayor. YMMV

So, Rudy is America’s mayor.

Joe Arpaio is America’s toughest sheriff.

Conservatives sure have some role models.

Must be why the whole party has major issues with being liked…by anyone.

81 electrotek  Feb 21, 2015 1:13:21pm

re: #80 ObserverArt

So, Rudy is America’s mayor.

Joe Arpaio is America’s toughest sheriff.

Conservatives sure have some role models.

Must be why the whole party has major issues with being liked…by anyone.

Don’t expect the NY Party Kids to warmly embrace Giuliani still hahaha

82 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 21, 2015 1:15:32pm

re: #80 ObserverArt

So, Rudy is America’s mayor.

Joe Arpaio is America’s toughest sheriff.

Conservatives sure have some role models.

Must be why the whole party has major issues with being liked…by anyone.

Ted Nugent is the consummate Red State Rocker and Mike Huckabee is his bassist…

83 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 1:16:35pm

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Ted Nugent is the consummate Red State Rocker and Mike Huckabee is his bassist…

Gene Simmons is America’s rock star.//

84 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 1:21:13pm

Poor little (minded) white guy. Heh.

85 nines09  Feb 21, 2015 1:25:06pm

Good week for wing nut tears. Oh the persecution. The humanity. The sheer weight of it all. Here. Have some cheese while I go pop some popcorn.

86 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 1:26:25pm

re: #78 electrotek

Source

So is this woman going to donate all of the proceeds to Mueller’s family? If she as she states is genuinely appalled and sympathetic to her fate?

I’m sure the check is in the mail as we speak…

87 ObserverArt  Feb 21, 2015 1:26:44pm

Why would anyone expect any Republican to say anything against Rudy G. for saying crap like this about Obama?

They all think like this.

They all think this is what their base thinks.

So, why lie about it?

Stand back and revel in it, and if any heat comes just say you were being sarcastic and it’s all a joke and liberals just don’t have a sense of humor.

Wait until about one year from now. This will be mild and is just a tuneup. They will all get to be both racists and misogynists. And they are very capable of it. Oh joy.

88 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 1:26:55pm

Anyone want to contribute to a white sheet for Giuliani? I can get a used one for a couple of buck at the thrift store. : ) Or do you think he already has his own? Sounds like he might and his own hood, too.

89 Emoprog Refugee  Feb 21, 2015 1:29:01pm

re: #67 Lidane

Giuliani triples down on the stupid:

Just a reminder: nydailynews.com

Rudolph Giuliani was born in an Italian-American enclave in East Flatbush in the New York City borough of Brooklyn, the only child of working-class parents, Harold Angelo Giuliani (1908-1981) and Helen (née D’Avanzo; 1909-2002), both first-generation Americans, children of Italian immigrants.[15] He was raised a Roman Catholic.[16] Harold Giuliani had trouble holding a job and had been convicted of felony assault and robbery and served time in Sing Sing;[17] after his release he served as an enforcer for his brother-in-law Leo D’Avanzo, who ran an organized crime operation involved in loan sharking and gambling at a restaurant in Brooklyn.[18]

Rudy was under criminal, mob, gangster influence from birth. He prolly ought to quit throwing stones about his glass house.

90 electrotek  Feb 21, 2015 1:29:27pm

re: #87 ObserverArt

Wait until about one year from now. This will be mild and is just a tuneup. They will all get to be both racists and misogynists. And they are very capable of it. Oh joy.

All the while complaining about perceived Arab racism and the plight of the poor Muslim women in Muslim societies. /facepalm

91 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 1:30:26pm

re: #81 electrotek

Don’t expect the NY Party Kids to warmly embrace Giuliani still hahaha

Or firefighters.

Firefighters’ Union Takes Ax to Giuliani’s 9/11 Acclaim

“On the heroic memory of 343 dead firefighters, he wants to run for president of the United States,” firefighter Steve Cassidy stated in the video. “It’s a disgrace.” Cassidy is president of the New York IAFF chapter.

nytimes.com

92 electrotek  Feb 21, 2015 1:31:16pm

And one more important thing to note about Giuliani’s hypocrisy: this is the same guy that famously turned down a check from a Saudi prince in the wake of 9/11 yet a decade later had no qualms accepting money from Serbian war criminals for his consulting firm in the Balkans which was enough for the State Department to distance itself from that.

93 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 1:31:25pm

re: #85 nines09

Good week for wing nut tears. Oh the persecution. The humanity. The sheer weight of it all. Here. Have some cheese while I go pop some popcorn.

94 electrotek  Feb 21, 2015 1:32:56pm

re: #91 BeachDem

Or firefighters.

Firefighters’ Union Takes Ax to Giuliani’s 9/11 Acclaim

“On the heroic memory of 343 dead firefighters, he wants to run for president of the United States,” firefighter Steve Cassidy stated in the video. “It’s a disgrace.” Cassidy is president of the New York IAFF chapter.

nytimes.com

I’m glad his legacy continues to be derailed. Fuck this mobster douche.

95 Mattand  Feb 21, 2015 1:33:40pm

re: #87 ObserverArt

Speaking of bigots: TPM had a quick run-down of Bill Maher’s latest “How dare you call me an Islamophobe when say something Islamophobic????” derp drop.

Anyone want to start to taking bets as to when Pam Gellar shows up on Real Time as an ‘expert’?

96 Romantic Heretic  Feb 21, 2015 1:34:16pm

re: #67 Lidane

Giuliani triples down on the stupid:

[Embedded content]

AYERS! WRIGHT! DAVIS! ALINSKY! ZOMG!

Rudy’s acting like POTUS is running for a third term. WTF.

Rudy? SHUT UP!

97 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 1:37:44pm

re: #94 electrotek

I’m glad his legacy continues to be derailed. Fuck this mobster douche.

That was in 2007, but I’m sure they still feel the same way now—probably even more so, as Rudy continues to live off 9/11 and to make an ass of himself.

And it goes back even further with Rudy’s racist bullshit. from The Rude Pundit, about Rudy’s 1993 campaign:

as a candidate for the office in 1993, Giuliani humped the Crown Heights riots like they were hookers named 9 and 11. He exploited the shit out of them, using the word “pogrom” and using it to turn whites against blacks in the city, including the black mayor.

rudepundit.blogspot.com

98 electrotek  Feb 21, 2015 1:39:28pm

re: #95 Mattand

Speaking of bigots: TPM had a quick run-down of Bill Maher’s latest “How dare you call me an Islamophobe when say something Islamophobic????” derp drop.

Anyone want to start to taking bets as to when Pam Gellar shows up on Real Time as an ‘expert’?

Then he loses ALL credibility as a liberal if he’s willing to let someone with close ties to Evangelical Christian groups on the show as an expert.

99 nines09  Feb 21, 2015 1:40:35pm

re: #93 BeachDem

Put two on ice for me.

100 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 1:44:34pm

re: #95 Mattand

Speaking of bigots: TPM had a quick run-down of Bill Maher’s latest “How dare you call me an Islamophobe when say something Islamophobic????” derp drop.

Anyone want to start to taking bets as to when Pam Gellar shows up on Real Time as an ‘expert’?

Maher is basically a libertarian. Scratch a libertarian when they say they’re for human rights and you’ll find out exactly who they think should have human rights. As long as they can make a buck from it and those rights are reserved for them.

101 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 2:05:49pm

re: #100 Justanotherhuman

Maher is basically a libertarian. Scratch a libertarian when they say they’re for human rights and you’ll find out exactly who they think should have human rights. As long as they can make a buck from it and those rights are reserved for them.

And, apparently while Maher tried to make jokes about Rudy, Fran Lebowitz set him straight:

…you know, what is behind Giuliani’s comments, and we’re not allowed to say this, but it’s racism. We now live in a society where it’s worse to call someone a racist than to be one.” …

(Maher) “What happened to Giuliani? He was the mayor of a liberal city. He used to be a moderate Republican.”

“No,” Lebowitz interjected, “when Giuliani was the mayor, every five minutes an unarmed black guy was getting shot in the back. It was always a different excuse from the cops — ‘he had something in his hand, I thought it was a gun,’ and it was a candy bar. It was a key chain.”

rawstory.com

I didn’t watch it because I’ve just about given up on Maher. His smugness and his lack of knowledge about the drums he beats has overtaken his humor imo.

102 electrotek  Feb 21, 2015 2:10:38pm

Bill Maher would have turned a blind eye to Giuliani’s assault on New York’s nightlife. Thanks to that dipshit I’ll never get to experience Twilo :(

103 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 2:22:32pm

The Republicans don’t even have to create a platform for 2016. They can just scream AMERICA and hand out copies of

104 OhNoZombies!  Feb 21, 2015 2:29:04pm

Thing is, generally, some old school Italians weren’t really known for liking black people all that much.
I know, for example, my MIL was disowned until her father died for marrying my husband’s dad.
After that, the family welcomed her back, especially after the kids were born.
Rudy being a bigot isn’t all that surprising, I guess is my point.

105 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 21, 2015 2:30:06pm

re: #103 BeachDem

The Republicans don’t even have to create a platform for 2016. They can just scream AMERICA and hand out copies of

Embedded Image

Right now it is “anti-Obama”, it will be little trouble switching it over to “anti-Hillary”.

106 Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2015 2:34:43pm

re: #103 BeachDem

The Republicans don’t even have to create a platform for 2016. They can just scream AMERICA and hand out copies of

[Embedded content]

The GOP have nothing to really run in 2016. So it will end up being recycled flotsam from the past two presidential elections, from “ZOMG! TERRORISM!!!!” to the grab bag of wingnut lunacy that their base wants. Everything from gold buggism to anti-vaxxer stupidity to tentherism. And the convention will be long whine about how the Dem candidate, whoever he/she is, is “Four more years of Obama!”

107 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 2:42:45pm

re: #104 OhNoZombies!

You’d think Italians could remember some of their own immigrant history and how they were treated. I’m old enough to remember when they were looked down on and called the “W” word—even as late as the ’70s, Nixon used the word to describe Judge Sirica who presided over the trial of the Watergate burglars.

108 lawhawk  Feb 21, 2015 2:45:44pm
109 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 2:47:30pm

re: #108 lawhawk

This is especially for you. : )

110 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 2:49:39pm

The victimization of Rudy Giuliani continues…

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani says he’s received death threats since critical Obama comments - @thehill
thehill.com

111 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 21, 2015 2:55:56pm

re: #110 Justanotherhuman

The victimization of Rudy Giuliani continues…

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani says he’s received death threats since critical Obama comments - @thehill
thehill.com

People receive death threats for criticizing “American Sniper”…

112 Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2015 2:56:23pm

re: #108 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Amazing what six years can do, isn’t it? From “How dare you question the President’s patriotism?!” to “HE HATES AMERICA!!!”

113 OhNoZombies!  Feb 21, 2015 2:59:15pm

re: #107 Justanotherhuman

You’d think Italians could remember some of their own immigrant history and how they were treated. I’m old enough to remember when they were looked down on and called the “W” word—even as late as the ’70s, Nixon used the word to describe Judge Sirica who presided over the trial of the Watergate burglars.

I think they do, but, like the Irish, they were eventually considered acceptable (white), and gained preference in hiring etc over blacks.
That’s not to negate hard work, because I know they worked their butts off, but the difference is, they had to be hired in the first place in order to work those butts off, and accumulate generational wealth.
Some don’t accept the premise that being white grants certain advantages…

114 stpaulbear  Feb 21, 2015 3:01:05pm

re: #110 Justanotherhuman

The victimization of Rudy Giuliani continues…

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani says he’s received death threats since critical Obama comments - @thehill
thehill.com

You know, if Obama were to say in a TV interview that he’s received death threats, the reporter would probably ask him what he thinks he does to inspire all of those threats.

115 ObserverArt  Feb 21, 2015 3:07:46pm

re: #95 Mattand

Speaking of bigots: TPM had a quick run-down of Bill Maher’s latest “How dare you call me an Islamophobe when say something Islamophobic????” derp drop.

Anyone want to start to taking bets as to when Pam Gellar shows up on Real Time as an ‘expert’?

Just read this over at TPM…not sure if this was what you were talking about in your comment.

I wonder if Bill is just tossing out this crap to outrage and keep some viewers. Not sure of his ratings or his overall popularity, but all media is suspicious in the stunts they will pull.

And I am not defending him. I do not watch him and have always seen him more as a bad comedian that got into this herb-driven libertarian claptrap because he doesn’t have to be funny, just controversial.

It’s a good gig apparently. /

Bill Maher: Obama’s Comments About Islamic Extremism Sound ‘A Lot Like The NRA’

116 palomino  Feb 21, 2015 3:09:20pm

Giuliani doesn’t give a shit anymore. His political career is over, his days as the “hero of 9/11” are way back in the rear view mirror. So now he’s adopted the role of gop hatchet man.

I would guess he’ll turn his sights on Hillary soon, as Obama isn’t running for re-election and more (barely) coded racism isn’t what the gop needs to appeal to a general election crowd. Even some of them have figured this out, not that they always have the impulse control to prevent it from coming out from time to time.

And the communist allegations are so retro as to be meaningless. First, sane people don’t run and hide any longer when they hear communist. Second, communism in practice today means Cuba and North Korea. In other words, it’s a joke. There’s no USSR or red China aiming missiles at us all. It’s as if Giuliani is channeling his inner McCarthy.

117 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 3:09:54pm

re: #113 OhNoZombies!

I think they do, but, like the Irish, they were eventually considered acceptable (white), and gained preference in hiring etc over blacks.
That’s not to negate hard work, because I know they worked their butts off, but the difference is, they had to be hired in the first place in order to work those butts off, and accumulate generational wealth.
Some don’t accept the premise that being white grants certain advantages…

Indeed and an American of Irish decent, I’d like to point out that it greatly annoys me when other Americans of Irish decent try to claim that we had it harder than African Americans. Uh no, we had no forced slavery for generations in America, we had no culture if we said the wrong thing to a white person that we would have to worry about lynchings, etc. One can make the point that Irish-Americans and other ethnics had it tough without resorting to distorting the truth.

118 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 3:10:19pm

The severe weather has passed us by, but not so true in some places.

re: #114 stpaulbear

In 2009, Pres Obama was receiving 30 death threats per day.

The new dynamics of protecting a president: Most threats against Obama issued online

washingtonpost.com

(snip)

“Since Obama took office, at least 65 people have been indicted on charges of threatening to harm him. In January, Daniel L. Temple, who had tweeted “im coming to kill you” and “so I gotta kill barack obama first,” was sentenced to 16 months in prison after pleading guilty.

“Nicholas Savino was sentenced in March to a year in prison for posting this on the White House Web site in August 2013: “President Obama the Anti-Christ, As a result of breaking the constitution you will stand down or be shot dead.”

“Police, who arrested Savino a few days after he posted the statement, found three guns and about 11,000 rounds of ammunition in his apartment and car.” More

I’m not so sure today’s threats are necessarily more related to govt overreach, as the article says. As it is, according to the article, he’s still received significantly more threats than any of is predecessors.

119 Amory Blaine  Feb 21, 2015 3:10:26pm

Scott Walker said this?

Noteworthy, Walker argued that when Reagan fired the PATCO air-traffic controllers over their illegal strike, he was sending a message of toughness to Democrats and unions at home as well as our Soviet enemies abroad. Similarly, Walker believes his stance against unions in Wisconsin would be a signal of toughness to Islamic jihadists and Russia’s Vladimir Putin.

120 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 3:10:51pm

Maher’s problem by the way is he thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room at any given time.

121 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 3:12:30pm

re: #119 Amory Blaine

Scott Walker said this?

Yeah Reagan sure showed them.// Really what a fucking butthead this guy is. Really state sanctioned union busting is actually something the Soviets actually did. But I can’t expect Governor Dropout to actually know actual history.

122 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Feb 21, 2015 3:12:52pm

re: #104 OhNoZombies!

Thing is, generally, some old school Italians weren’t really known for liking black people all that much. … Rudy being a bigot isn’t all that surprising, I guess is my point.

This is true, it’s a norm for people who grew up before the impact of the ’60s and ’70s. I’m 67, I grew up in neighborhoods where bigotry toward African-Americans was breathed in with the air. I remain amazed and proud of my parents that I never heard a word of it from them, although they did object to my dating their friends’ daughter,* because “They’re not like us.” *They were Catholic.

123 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 21, 2015 3:13:25pm

re: #119 Amory Blaine

Scott Walker said this?

Because unions are communist. After all, wasn’t Ronald Reagan a union boss?

124 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 3:14:45pm

re: #122 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

This is true, it’s a norm for people who grew up before the impact of the ’60s and ’70s. I’m 67, I grew up in neighborhoods where bigotry toward African-Americans was breathed in with the air. I remain amazed and proud of my parents that I never heard a word of it from them, although they did object to my dating their friends’ daughter,* because “They’re not like us.” *They were Catholic.

I’m likewise proud of my own grandparents. I never knew my Dad’s Dad but one of my favorite stories about him is him telling my father never ever to use the n-word.

125 BeenHereAwhile  Feb 21, 2015 3:14:45pm

Now it continues to begin:

[…] Born in Mexico, she had married into a famously political American family and had always been an outsider: a prayerful Roman Catholic, a sensitive loner and lover of the arts who still speaks in heavily accented English. As Florida’s first lady, she had arranged Mass in the governor’s mansion and endured weeks of bad press for a European shopping spree. She blamed politics for friction in her marriage and as a factor in her daughter’s drug addiction. A run for the White House would expose her to the spotlight as never before.[…]

[…] Mrs. Bush has struggled to make peace with her husband’s world, but she is the furthest thing from a classic political spouse. If the 2016 election comes down to a choice between Mr. Bush and Hillary Rodham Clinton, she and Bill Clinton would present a startling contrast.

Mrs. Bush cherishes quiet lunches by herself, eating simple Latin fare like jamón serrano at no-frills restaurants or painting in the studio of a friend, the artist Romero Britto, where her last work was of a little cat. When her husband was governor, she preferred spending hours touring women’s shelters and talking to abuse victims rather than highlighting her work against domestic violence to the news media. Her best friend is her sister, Lucila, who married a friend of Mr. Bush’s and lives just a few miles away.[…]

mobile.nytimes.com

126 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 21, 2015 3:15:50pm

re: #109 Justanotherhuman

This is especially for you. : )

[Embedded content]

HDR hurts my eyes. Now, take that same image, same vantage point & FOV of a lens with, say, a nice 8x10 sheet of Velvia? THAT would be a beautiful high color way to view the falls.

127 sagehen  Feb 21, 2015 3:18:05pm

re: #118 Justanotherhuman

I’m not so sure today’s threats are necessarily more related to govt overreach, as the article says. As it is, according to the article, he’s still received significantly more threats than any of is predecessors.

He’s been under Secret Service protection since May 2007 — the earliest (by more than a year) that any candidate ever needed it. Because of “multiple credible threats.”

128 Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2015 3:18:12pm

re: #119 Amory Blaine

Scott Walker said this?

Yeah, screwing over teachers and janitors is great practice for dealing with terrorists and dictators. At least when you have a pet legislature that will do the heavy lifting for you.

129 stpaulbear  Feb 21, 2015 3:18:28pm

re: #119 Amory Blaine

Walker believes his stance against unions in Wisconsin would be a signal of toughness to Islamic jihadists and Russia’s Vladimir Putin.

If he could only find them on a map.

130 stpaulbear  Feb 21, 2015 3:22:59pm
Yes, believe it or not, Wisconsin governor Scott Walker actually spoke at some length at the dinner this past week where Rudy Giuliani charged that President Obama doesn’t love America. All the hullabaloo went to Giuliani, but in terms of the Republican presidential race, a number of Scott Walker’s pointed comments about policy and politicians are not to be missed.

First a word about the dinner itself, which was generously backed by John Catsimatidis. It was the second event sponsored by the Committee to Unleash American Prosperity

Because even they knew better than to call it the Committee to Restore American Prosperity.

131 BeenHereAwhile  Feb 21, 2015 3:46:56pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Indeed and an American of Irish decent, I’d like to point out that it greatly annoys me when other Americans of Irish decent try to claim that we had it harder than African Americans. Uh no, we had no forced slavery for generations in America, we had no culture if we said the wrong thing to a white person that we would have to worry about lynchings, etc. One can make the point that Irish-Americans and other ethnics had it tough without resorting to distorting the truth.

“We Don’t Want the Irish!”

…

132 electrotek  Feb 21, 2015 4:15:08pm

re: #107 Justanotherhuman

You’d think Italians could remember some of their own immigrant history and how they were treated. I’m old enough to remember when they were looked down on and called the “W” word—even as late as the ’70s, Nixon used the word to describe Judge Sirica who presided over the trial of the Watergate burglars.

hah, try going down under sometime. Use of the term “wog” to describe Italians and other southern Europeans is still commonplace to this day in Australia.


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