Now Scott Walker Says He’s Unaware Obama Is a Christian

Obvious pandering to the loony base is obvious
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Yes, Scott Walker is now going there: Walker Says He Is Unaware Whether Obama Is a Christian.

“I don’t know,” Walker said in an interview at the JW Marriott hotel in Washington, where he was attending the winter meeting of the National Governors Association.

Told that Obama has frequently spoken publicly about his Christian faith, Walker maintained that he was not aware of the president’s religion.

“I’ve actually never talked about it or I haven’t read about that,” Walker said, his voice calm and firm. “I’ve never asked him that,” he added. “You’ve asked me to make statements about people that I haven’t had a conversation with about that. How [could] I say if I know either of you are a Christian?”

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“To me this is a classic example of why people hate Washington and increasingly they dislike the press,” he said. “The things they care about don’t even remotely come close to what you’re asking about.”

Does anyone believe Walker has never heard Obama talk about his Christianity? He apparently thinks he can fool people into thinking he isn’t pandering to the far right base of Fox News-indoctrinated clones — the base that thinks Obama hates America and is a secret Muslim sympathizer. He’s attacking the media for asking this question because he knows that always plays well with the wingnut crowd.

Walker clearly knows he’s going to need the support of these people when he runs for president, because that’s what the conservative movement has become.

UPDATE at 2/21/15 4:29:04 pm by Charles Johnson

As if to prove my point, here’s who Scott Walker was pandering to:

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181 comments
1 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 3:23:15pm

Keep talking, Walker, you sorry fascist bastard. We know exactly the type of reactionary you appeal to.

2 b.d.  Feb 21, 2015 3:23:43pm

I bet if you asked him whether ISIS was Islamic or not he’d know.

3 Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2015 3:24:16pm

Looks like 2016 isn’t gonna be your ordinary GOP clown car, no siree; it’s gonna be a full-on, all-out freakshow the like of which has never been witnessed in living memory.

Usul, we have Derpsign the likes of which even God has never seen.
4 b.d.  Feb 21, 2015 3:24:31pm

Walker is the T-Paw of this cycle, he’ll be a distant memory before Iowa even happens.

5 stpaulbear  Feb 21, 2015 3:25:21pm

Walker doesn’t even need to pander. He IS one of those people.

If Jim Hoft was smart enough to get elected to something, he’d be Scott Walker.

6 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 3:26:20pm

I’d like to know who the dickwad was who asked him the question. Somebody from CNN, perhaps?

8 Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2015 3:27:46pm
He’s attacking the media for asking this question because he knows that always plays well with the wingnut crowd.

Yeah, I keep hearing from wingnuts about how the media is now beating up on Walker and how it’s all part of a “liberal” plot to derail his candidacy. Why? Because he’s viewed as such a threat to Democrats that he simply cannot be allowed to run.

9 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 21, 2015 3:28:51pm

Anything I’d have to say about Walker & religion would quickly fade into “no true Scotsman” territory, I fear, so I’ll just fart in his general direction.

10 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 3:28:55pm

And in the same story, this, from a peckerhead named Bush.

Governor Bush doesn’t question President Obama’s motives. He does question President Obama’s disastrous policies.”

If Obama’s policies are disastrous, what were those of dim bulb brother W?

11 Iwouldprefernotto  Feb 21, 2015 3:29:03pm

Is Scott Walker Human? Just asking…

12 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 3:30:35pm

I eagerly await the media questioning Walker about his ties to the Koch brothers. I expect it will be a long, long wait.

13 PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2015 3:31:44pm

It sounds as though Walker has no grey matter.

14 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 21, 2015 3:32:27pm

re: #3 Dr Lizardo

Looks like 2016 isn’t gonna be your ordinary GOP clown car, no siree; it’s gonna be a full-on, all-out freakshow the like of which has never been witnessed in living memory.

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I still think the Kochs will be able to hold it together through the convention and nominate Bush/Walker (yes, FWIW that’s my prediction). When they lose, the teabaggers are going to go absolutely apeshit. They live in a hermetically sealed universe where everybody agrees with them, and when it turns out they were wrong—well, they’re never wrong. The fix was in! ACORN!! VOTER FRAUD!! ILLEGAL MESSICAN MOOSLINS VOTING 10 TIMES EACH!!!

If you thought America 2008-2016 is an insane asylum, just wait till 2016-2024. All I can hope for is that enough of the “base” will have died off by 2024 that things will improve. (But I will probably have died off by then too, so no bets.)

15 CuriousLurker  Feb 21, 2015 3:33:41pm

One day, our grandchildren & great-grandchildren are going to read about how shabbily the first black POTUS was treated and cringe.

Sometimes I can’t help but wonder if the constant barrage of suspicion, insults and outright racism that President Obama and his family have to deal with daily is the (white) establishment’s way of punishing him for his success, of trying to make sure no other black man (or woman, or other person of color) dares to be so “uppity” in the near future as to think he (or she) is qualified for the post.

It’s truly a disgusting thing to witness and, despite what they’d have you think, a sign of deep cowardice & insecurity.

16 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 3:36:02pm

re: #15 CuriousLurker

“It’s truly a disgusting thing to witness and, despite what they’d have you think, a sign of deep cowardice & insecurity.”

This.

17 b.d.  Feb 21, 2015 3:36:58pm

It’s really going to be hard for the GOP to turn up the screaming and wailing over Hillary since they’ve already pegged it to 11 on Obama but I have faith in them.

18 Kragar  Feb 21, 2015 3:37:38pm

Walker’s statement makes perfect sense once you take into account the fact that he is s fucking idiot

19 Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2015 3:38:16pm

re: #18 Kragar

Walker’s statement makes perfect sense once you take into account the fact that he is s fucking idiot

The Kochs didn’t buy him for his brains. In fact, it was the exact opposite, as a smart politician is harder to control than a dumb one.

20 Dr Lizardo  Feb 21, 2015 3:39:35pm

re: #14 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I still think the Kochs will be able to hold it together through the convention and nominate Bush/Walker (yes, FWIW that’s my prediction). When they lose, the teabaggers are going to go absolutely apeshit. They live in a hermetically sealed universe where everybody agrees with them, and when it turns out they were wrong—well, they’re never wrong. The fix was in! ACORN!! VOTER FRAUD!! ILLEGAL MESSICAN MOOSLINS VOTING 10 TIMES EACH!!!

If you thought America 2008-2016 is an insane asylum, just wait till 2016-2024. All I can hope for is that enough of the “base” will have died off by 2024 that things will improve. (But I will probably have died off by then to, so no bets.)

Oh, I quite agree. 2016 - 2024 is going to be outright political insanity. The more the TP’ers lose, the crazier they’ll get, because as you said, they live in a hermetically-sealed alternate reality where absolutely everyone agrees with them. And when they lose, their automatic default position is not one of self-reflection that their ideology is repellent, but rather, that they are the victims of a vast conspiracy.

And with that, goodnight, Lizards.

21 b.d.  Feb 21, 2015 3:41:29pm

Walker’s answer isn’t so shocking considering that a huge portion of wingnutland even refuses to believe that the current Pope is Catholic

22 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 3:41:35pm
23 stpaulbear  Feb 21, 2015 3:42:31pm

re: #15 CuriousLurker

I can’t help but think that they’re punishing him for not being a corporate shill. Getting all of the knuckle-draggers on board out of racism is just the cherry on top for them. The Koch brothers have put this to good use.

24 b_sharp  Feb 21, 2015 3:42:43pm

Don’t assume a Dem president is a done deal. My outsider eyes see a tough row to hoe ahead for the left.

25 CuriousLurker  Feb 21, 2015 3:44:33pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Oh, a libertarian. Okay, that explains a lot.

26 Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2015 3:45:58pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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Seriously, if they think Walker is getting mistreated now, wait until this fall, when the field has pretty much begun to coalesce and the debates begin. How do they think he’s gonna fare when he starts getting slapped around by the other candidates and has to address not simply the canned questions, but the attacks of his fellow Republicans?

27 OhNoZombies!  Feb 21, 2015 3:46:56pm

re: #15 CuriousLurker

One day, our grandchildren & great-grandchildren are going to read about how shabbily the first black POTUS was treated and cringe.

Sometimes I can’t help but wonder if the constant barrage of suspicion, insults and outright racism that President Obama and his family have to deal with daily is the (white) establishment’s way of punishing him for his success, of trying to make sure no other black man (or woman, or other person of color) dares to be so “uppity” in the near future as to think he (or she) is qualified for the post.

It’s truly a disgusting thing to witness and, despite what they’d have you think, a sign of deep cowardice & insecurity.

I hate to say it, but the way they treat the President isn’t atypical, or surprising.
It happens in the workplace all the time, and it seems the higher you go, the worse some of them get. The difference is the volume is turned up to 11ty.

In a way, I think it’s a necessary evil. The U.S. had this ugly, festering boil on its back that needed to be extracted because it’s holding us back.
I’ll leave it at that, because I’m getting grossed out by my own imagery.

28 scottslemmons  Feb 21, 2015 3:47:32pm

Well, I’m not all that sure that Walker is a Christian. He’s certainly never done anything that seems particularly Christian. In fact, judging by his actions in office, it seems very likely that Scott Walker hates Jesus…

29 EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2015 3:47:45pm

re: #24 b_sharp

Don’t assume a Dem president is a done deal. My outsider eyes see a tough row to hoe ahead for the left.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with this. However, win or lose, the GOP insanity will only increase.

The simple truth is that most of the GOP base (including the so-called moderates) would vote for Hitler reborn on the GOP ticket, for no better reason than to piss off liberals.

It is also not apparent how the GOP would manage to keep Hitler reborn from being a candidate, since insanity and malice are such selling points for GOP voters these days.

30 Kragar  Feb 21, 2015 3:48:11pm

re: #25 CuriousLurker

31 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 3:50:22pm

So Scotty can only comment on things he hears directly from a person? (Has he ever met the President?)

When he was asked about the love of country bullshit, he said,
“I’ve never asked the President so I don’t really know what his opinions are on that one way or another.”

Now on the subject of the President’s religion, he says, “I’ve never asked him that.” (And his comment about never having read about it—assumes facts not in evidence—that Scotty can read.)

He truly is a doofus, and it says a lot about the right that they actually consider him a viable candidate.

32 CuriousLurker  Feb 21, 2015 3:50:23pm

re: #27 OhNoZombies!

I hate to say it, but the way they treat the President isn’t atypical, or surprising.
It happens in the workplace all the time, and it seems the higher you go, the worse some of them get. The difference is the volume is turned up to 11ty.

In a way, I think it’s a necessary evil. The U.S. had this ugly, festering boil on its back that needed to be extracted because it’s holding us back.
I’ll leave it at that, because I’m getting grossed out by my own imagery.

I hear you. When he was elected I knew it would get bad, but I had no idea it would get as ugly as it has. It is indeed a festering boil.

33 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 3:53:24pm

I love this one.

34 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 21, 2015 3:53:48pm

re: #21 b.d.

Walker’s answer isn’t so shocking considering that a huge portion of wingnutland even refuses to believe that the current Pope is Catholic

But he does shit in the woods! Right?

35 EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2015 3:54:41pm

re: #32 CuriousLurker

I hear you. When he was elected I knew it would get bad, but I had no idea it would get as ugly as it has. It is indeed a festering boil.

I honestly didn’t think Obama could get elected in 2008 because there is still too much racism in the US.

The W Bush administration really did screw things up enough to materially hurt GOP chances in 2008.

36 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 3:55:14pm

Send me a link to the very article I wrote about, and demand that I read it. What an ass.

37 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 3:56:12pm
38 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 3:56:36pm

re: #14 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think your prediction of a Bush/Walker ticket is spot on. I just disagree about them losing.

My prediction is, if the Dems don’t get off of their lazy asses, is for a complete GOP sweep.

39 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 3:57:39pm
40 JamesWI  Feb 21, 2015 3:57:49pm

re: #24 b_sharp

Don’t assume a Dem president is a done deal. My outsider eyes see a tough row to hoe ahead for the left.

I wouldn’t assume it’s a done deal, but if the best the Republicans can put forward is Scott Walker and Jeb Bush……let’s just say, the Democratic candidate is gonna have to fuck up worse than we’ve ever seen.

But I still don’t see Walker making it anywhere close to the nomination. He is still at the point where he can refuse to answer the questions he doesn’t like, without his cowardice becoming major national news. Come primary season, he’s gonna get torn to shreds.

41 EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2015 4:00:01pm

re: #38 Skip Intro

I think your prediction of a BUsh/Walker ticket is spot on. I just disagree about them losing.

My prediction is, if the Dems don’t get off of their lazy asses, is for a complete GOP sweep.

It is certainly true that there are millions of swing voters out there who are prepared to vote for the GOP given any excuse to do so because ‘it is their turn’.

42 PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2015 4:01:26pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

This “person” is giving pretzels a bad name.

43 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 4:01:59pm

I haven’t been here most of today, so apologies if this was already posted. I’ve been trying to get my blood pressure/heart rate back down to human levels.

Bill O’Reilly’s CBS Colleague Says Buenos Aires Was Not A ‘Combat Situation’ After Falklands War

Buenos Aires was neither a “war zone” nor a “combat situation” after Argentina surrendered to Britain in the Falklands War, says one of Bill O’Reilly’s former colleagues at CBS who was with him in the capital at the time.

“It was an ‘expense account zone,’” writes Eric Jon Engberg, a retired CBS correspondent, in a Facebook post. “We — meaning the American networks — were all in the same, modern hotel and we never saw any troops, casualties or weapons.”

Roughing it, O’Really? style. Maybe the breakfast buffet wasn’t up to O’Really? standards.

huffingtonpost.com

44 OhNoZombies!  Feb 21, 2015 4:02:28pm

I hope the Dems aren’t putting all of the eggs in Hillary’s basket.
If so, I’m concerned.

45 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 4:03:36pm

re: #41 EPR-radar

It is certainly true that there are millions of swing voters out there who are prepared to vote for the GOP given any excuse to do so because ‘it is their turn’.

Maybe if the Dems could come up with a candidate who wasn’t over 70 years old the odds would be a little better.

46 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 4:05:14pm

And an insider, who was there, working for CBS, blows more holes in O’Reilly’s story. (Be sure to read the comments—much back and forth from folks who worked at CBS and NBC and had first-hand stories.)

All the members of the CBS reporting staff and all the two-person camera crews we had in Buenos Aires were sent in to the street. I believe there were four or five crews.

The reporters, as I remember, were O’Reilly, Chuck Gomez, Charles Krause, Bob Schieffer and myself. Somewhere it has been reported that O’Reilly has claimed he was the only CBS News reporter who had the courage to go into the street because the rest of us were hiding in our hotel. If he said such thing it is an absolute lie.

Everyone was working in the street that night, the crews exhibiting their usual courage. O’Reilly was the one person who behaved unprofessionally and without regard for the safety of the camera crew he was leading.

m.facebook.com

Oops—see I was a few minutes late on this—but the facebook page and the comments are definitely worth a read.

47 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 4:05:47pm
48 EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2015 4:06:08pm

re: #45 Skip Intro

Maybe if the Dems could come up with a candidate who wasn’t over 70 years old the odds would be a little better.

I’m much more concerned about Hillary’s corporate tendencies than her age (especially since age would not be such an issue for a male candidate).

49 Lidane  Feb 21, 2015 4:06:31pm

re: #10 Skip Intro

And in the same story, this, from a peckerhead named Bush.

Governor Bush doesn’t question President Obama’s motives. He does question President Obama’s disastrous policies.”

If Obama’s policies are disastrous, what were those of dim bulb brother W?

Rand Paul is trying that same line of disingenuous bullshit:

50 Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2015 4:07:39pm

re: #43 Skip Intro

I haven’t been here most of today, so apologies if this was already posted. I’ve been trying to get my blood pressure/heart rate back down to human levels.

Bill O’Reilly’s CBS Colleague Says Buenos Aires Was Not A ‘Combat Situation’ After Falklands War

Roughing it, O’Really? style. Maybe the breakfast buffet wasn’t up to O’Really? standards.

huffingtonpost.com

I read through the original Facebook post, and everything I heard in it sounds right. Even back in ‘82, as a CBS rookie, O’Reilly was a blowhard asshole whose whole focus in life was on making himself look good. And contrary to his little bit in his “rebuttal” to Corn where he produced a letter from the CBS head office praising his footage, he actually went apeshit when he was told that his footage would be spliced in with other reporters and the presentation done by Bob Schieffer.

51 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 4:11:31pm
52 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 4:11:41pm

re: #48 EPR-radar

I’m much more concerned about Hillary’s corporate tendencies than her age (especially since age would not be such an issue for a male candidate).

It would be for me (sorry, Joe).

53 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 4:11:50pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

I read through the original Facebook post, and everything I heard in it sounds right. Even back in ‘82, as a CBS rookie, O’Reilly was a blowhard asshole whose whole focus in life was on making himself look good. And contrary to his little bit in his “rebuttal” to Corn where he produced a letter from the CBS head office praising his footage, he actually went apeshit when he was told that his footage would be spliced in with other reporters and the presentation done by Bob Schieffer.

This comment pretty much says it all:

Sam Roberts

Thank you Eric. But there’s more. When O’Reilly got back to NY, Ed Joyce, the president of CBS News and O’Reilly’s rabbi, came into my office. I was then the National editor. Joyce told me that O’Reilly was to report directly to me and that I was to “turn him into a real CBS News Correspondent.” Not two minutes later, Dan Rather walked into my office and shut the door.

He said “under no circumstances is O’Reilly to be assigned any story for the Evening News.” I sat O’Reilly down and said something to the effect that he was like the All-American football player who got drafted by the Dallass Cowboys and brought all his press clippings to training camp. “Nobody gives a shit,” I said. “You’ve got to do it here.”

O’Reilly said he couldn’t work with producers in the field so I worked out a deal with the Weekend News allowing him to work alone. That lasted for about two stories. A few weeks later, his agent, Richard Leibner called. “How’s O’Reilly doing?” he asked. I hemmed and hawed a little and Richard then said he had a job offer in Boston for O’Reilly and wondered oif he should take it. “He’ll never make it here,” I said. Take that job in Boston before it goes away.” And that was the end of O’Reilly’s career at CBS News.

54 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 4:13:53pm
55 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 4:14:39pm

re: #53 BeachDem

Wow, a trip through memory lane when network news still had credibility.

56 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 4:15:06pm
57 OhNoZombies!  Feb 21, 2015 4:15:19pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

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His nic suits him.

58 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 4:15:35pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

How come all these guys on the right have the Liberal Playbook and I don’t?

59 PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2015 4:16:42pm

re: #58 Skip Intro

It is their version of it. In other words they are making it up as they go.

60 CuriousLurker  Feb 21, 2015 4:18:03pm

re: #35 EPR-radar

I honestly didn’t think Obama could get elected in 2008 because there is still too much racism in the US.

The W Bush administration really did screw things up enough to materially hurt GOP chances in 2008.

Same here. I didn’t think I’d live to see a black POTUS, but I’m sure glad I did.

61 EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2015 4:18:10pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Of course, this Michael Pero is being a good little member of the wingnut chorus, trying to discredit the asking of ‘gotcha’ questions.

These questions, if asked, will expose the freakishness of the GOP candidates and of the GOP base the candidates either belong to or must pander to.

62 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 4:18:32pm
63 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 4:19:34pm

O’Leilly always has this old footage to fall back on. You might notice that he says “there are no words” there [on the teleprompter] and later say, “What does ‘play it out’ mean’? I don’t know what that means.”

What a horse’s ass.

64 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 21, 2015 4:19:42pm

re: #38 Skip Intro

I think your prediction of a Bush/Walker ticket is spot on. I just disagree about them losing.

My prediction is, if the Dems don’t get off of their lazy asses, is for a complete GOP sweep.

Well, you could be right, of course. Just remember 2016 is an open presidential election year, like 2008. Barring voter suppression, there’s going to be a huge turnout. If the GOP congress had managed to delay the recovery for four more years, as they have been desperately trying to do, the people who pay no attention from one open presidential year to the next would say: “Time to give the other guys a shot.”

If things are looking better than they have since 2008, however, I think the Clintons’ popularity (among non-wingnuts), coupled with the obvious insanity of the GOP (which will be on the fullest display ever) give the Dems a pretty good chance.

With voter suppression—I think a decisive Democratic popular vote victory and a Republican electoral victory is a real possibility. We’ll see what happens then. Apparently half a million votes wasn’t enough to trigger resistance, but 10 million…who knows?

65 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 4:20:24pm
66 Lancelot Link  Feb 21, 2015 4:20:58pm
Walker maintained that he was not aware of the president’s religion.

Yeah, I’ve certainly never ever seen anything in the media discussing the pastor of the church Obama attended for 17 years.
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67 EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2015 4:21:26pm

re: #64 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We also have blue states under GOP rule at the state level, which gives them various ways to simply give the GOP candidate more electoral votes.

68 CuriousLurker  Feb 21, 2015 4:24:17pm

Okay, a few minutes ago the @AP was Tweeting about Kim-freaking-Kardashian of all people—because, y’know, there’s nothing else important going on in the world at the moment—and I’ve heard enough wingnut B.S. for one day, so I’m gonna go watch videos and leave you guys with this parting thought:

69 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 4:24:45pm
70 OhNoZombies!  Feb 21, 2015 4:24:52pm

If Libs had a playbook— we ain’t got no stinking playbook!
It would be like a book about herding cats.

71 thecommodore  Feb 21, 2015 4:25:42pm

Scott Walker is pretty much unaware of everything. He is truly a dolt.

72 EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2015 4:28:01pm

re: #71 thecommodore

Scott Walker is pretty much unaware of everything. He is truly a dolt.

I’m sure Scott Walker is well aware of who his paymasters are.

Other than that, there appears to be no signs of intelligent life there.

73 Mattand  Feb 21, 2015 4:29:03pm

Fuck the Republican Party, and the people who think these morons are fit to run the country.

74 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 4:29:37pm
75 BeachDem  Feb 21, 2015 4:30:22pm

re: #61 EPR-radar

Of course, this Michael Pero is being a good little member of the wingnut chorus, trying to discredit the asking of ‘gotcha’ questions.

These questions, if asked, will expose the freakishness of the GOP candidates and of the GOP base the candidates either belong to or must pander to.

That’s also why they want to limit the number of GOP debates—less chance of them making even bigger fools of themselves.

It’s already begun with the clowns setting up camp here in South Carolina. There’s already been quite a parade, not even counting the Teabagger hootenanny a few weeks ago. I swear, during the last campaign, Michele Bachmann could have become a resident with all the time she spent here. (speaking, usually, to crowds of 10s.)

76 EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2015 4:30:59pm

re: #73 Mattand

Fuck the Republican Party, and the people who think these morons are fit to run the country.

Why yes, that is an admirably concise summary. Two thumbs up.

I’m reminded of WindUpBird’s similarly pithy “The GOP is dogshit”.

77 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 21, 2015 4:32:46pm
78 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 4:32:53pm

re: #64 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The amount of money the Kochs and their allies are going to pour into this race will eclipse all previous attempts to outright buy the government of the US. That, of course, is in addition to all of the other hundreds of millions that the GOP will have available to spend.

The Dems should have had a huge wake up call in 2014, but apparently didn’t. It’s the GOP’s race to lose, IMO.

79 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 21, 2015 4:33:14pm

Clearly, he’s faking it. Along with his wife and children.

80 EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2015 4:34:30pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Of course, one could point out that Erick Erickson does not appear to be a Christian in any meaningful way with at least as much justification as for Obama.

Sensible people notice this and become more devoted to separation of church and state, which is what should make questions of who is a ‘real Christian’ blessedly irrelevant in politics.

81 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 4:37:21pm

I knew I’d only have to wait a few minutes before someone like Erick Erickson totally proved my point.

82 Great White Snark  Feb 21, 2015 4:38:39pm

Maher: Obama sounds like the NRA

Just ‘cause he won’t tie their violence to a religion. Wowee.

83 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 4:39:18pm

The nastiest, most hateful people in America - all self-described Christians - will now insist Obama is not Christian.

84 wrenchwench  Feb 21, 2015 4:39:57pm
85 b_sharp  Feb 21, 2015 4:40:26pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

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The idea of an incompetent in charge of the world’s largest economy and military is scary.

86 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 4:41:06pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

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Naw, she wouldn’t even have voicemail set up.

87 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 21, 2015 4:41:39pm

re: #78 Skip Intro

Indeed. I’m afraid we will have a clean sweep by the GOP. I’m still going to vote and knock on as many doors as I possibly can to keep that from happening.

The DNC needs to get more involved. They need to start pouring over video and recordings of all these cretins and start making commercials. No need for any editing. Their own words should be their own downfall. If more people knew just what the GOP thought of women/minorities/LGBT/non-Christians/the poor, this country would be in far better shape than it is right now.

88 Mattand  Feb 21, 2015 4:43:51pm

re: #76 EPR-radar

Why yes, that is an admirably concise summary. Two thumbs up.

I’m reminded of WindUpBird’s similarly pithy “The GOP is dogshit”.

It’s just so goddamned frustrating. These people are insane, and they suffer no repercussions for the insanity that passes as policy for their party. And people look at that behavior, shrug, go “Eh, whaddya gonna do?” and vote for them anyway.

89 EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2015 4:45:44pm

re: #87 GlutenFreeJesus

Indeed. I’m afraid we will have a clean sweep by the GOP. I’m still going to vote and knock on as many doors as I possibly can to keep that from happening.

The DNC needs to get more involved. They need to start pouring over video and recordings of all these cretins and start making commercials. No need for any editing. Their own words should be their own downfall. If more people knew just what the GOP thought of women/minorities/LGBT/non-Christians/the poor, this country would be in far better shape than it is right now.

That’s not enough. IMO, the Democrats needs to get out there with some economic policies that meaningfully try to make things better for the 99%. Full-throated support of unions would be a good start, as would campaigning on the ACA and on ways to make it better.

Fast track negotiations for trade deals isn’t going to cut it.

90 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 4:46:41pm
91 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 21, 2015 4:46:43pm

re: #87 GlutenFreeJesus

Indeed. I’m afraid we will have a clean sweep by the GOP. I’m still going to vote and knock on as many doors as I possibly can to keep that from happening.

The DNC needs to get more involved. They need to start pouring over video and recordings of all these cretins and start making commercials. No need for any editing. Their own words should be their own downfall. If more people knew just what the GOP thought of women/minorities/LGBT/non-Christians/the poor, this country would be in far better shape than it is right now.

Indeed. When Frank Capra was in charge of propaganda during WWII (of course they didn’t call it that, but I’ve forgotten his exact title) he didn’t shoot a foot of film himself. He just showed Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo being themselves in their own propaganda footage. I wish the DNC would learn from that.

92 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 4:47:18pm

Could Walker be any more of a blatant pandering ass?

93 EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2015 4:47:23pm

re: #88 Mattand

It’s just so goddamned frustrating. These people are insane, and they suffer no repercussions for the insanity that passes as policy for their party. And people look at that behavior, shrug, go “Eh, whaddya gonna do?” and vote for them anyway.

A big part of the problem is that the clueless usually refuse to believe the GOP is as extreme as it is, even when solid evidence is provided.

94 ObserverArt  Feb 21, 2015 4:48:03pm

I have a feeling this graphic is going to be getting used a bit…

Version number 2!

95 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 4:48:21pm

And can you imagine Democratic candidates making cracks about Bush’s Christianity? But yeah perfectly acceptable for Walker to act like this but don’t the Dixie Chicks dare say that they’re ashamed to be from the state as George W. Bush, that’s the worst thing you can say.//

96 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 21, 2015 4:48:29pm

re: #89 EPR-radar

The electorate has proven that they don’t care about real ideas and solutions. We, as a whole, just want to be baffled with bullshit. The DNC was absolutely routed in 2014. Did the GOP do anything but baffle us with bullshit? Nope.

97 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 4:48:44pm

re: #94 ObserverArt

I have a feeling this graphic is going to be getting used a bit…

Version number 2!

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Goofy is offended at Walker being used in his likeness.

98 Varek Raith  Feb 21, 2015 4:48:56pm

Dear Scott,
Who shot first?

99 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 4:50:24pm

re: #96 GlutenFreeJesus

The electorate has proven that they don’t care about real ideas and solutions. We, as a whole, just want to be baffled with bullshit. The DNC was absolutely routed in 2014. Did the GOP do anything but baffle us with bullshit? Nope.

The electorate’s short term memory is the most maddening thing to me. It’s why we have the Republicans running both houses of Congress. Now the Dem base does need to do more than just vote in presidential elections but I blame a lot of problems on an electorate that totally forgets that the Republican party’s policies are why we got in the economic mess of 2008 in teh first place and falls for crap slogans like “less government and lower taxes” from a party that isn’t really for either of those for the vast majority of the country.

100 bratwurst  Feb 21, 2015 4:53:12pm

Erick Son of Erick’s role as devout Christian is to determine who else is or isn’t a Christian:

101 Varek Raith  Feb 21, 2015 4:53:54pm

I’m no theologian, but doesn’t God frown upon others judging people?

102 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 4:54:14pm

re: #100 bratwurst

Erick Son of Erick’s role as devout Christian is to determine who else is or isn’t a Christian:

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Well Erick, I don’t think you’re a Christian in any way because if you were, you wouldn’t be spending your time questioning the religious faith of a man you’ve never met and you’re also a huge homophobe and sexist as well.

103 Patricia Kayden  Feb 21, 2015 4:55:43pm

re: #24 b_sharp

Don’t assume a Dem president is a done deal. My outsider eyes see a tough row to hoe ahead for the left.

I agree. Until Secretary Hilary Clinton actually wins the election in November 2016, we should be on our toes. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bush the Younger gives her a run for her money. He’s the best the Republicans have.

104 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 4:56:11pm

re: #101 Varek Raith

I’m no theologian, but doesn’t God frown upon others judging people?

Yeah that was my thought too. I think Erick missed that part though and thought “Judge lest ye be judged” to mean that “I can be a total judgmental asshole to people I’ve never even met.” President Obama seems to be more in the spirit of being a Christian than people like Erickson ever have been. In fact, I’ve never seen Erick Erickson once display any signs of Christian behavior.

105 b.d.  Feb 21, 2015 4:56:23pm

re: #100 bratwurst

Erick Son of Erick’s role as devout Christian is to determine who else is or isn’t a Christian:

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Never underestimate a wingnut’s cartoonish mad rush to the microphone/twitter to confirm an answer to a question designed to make the answerer look like a complete moron.

106 Patricia Kayden  Feb 21, 2015 4:56:46pm

re: #100 bratwurst

Erick Son of Erick’s role as devout Christian is to determine who else is or isn’t a Christian:

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Actually, should President Obama reveal that he’s actually not a Christian, I wouldn’t care. I don’t see how one’s religion is important to one’s ability to be a good President.

107 Targetpractice  Feb 21, 2015 4:57:15pm

re: #100 bratwurst

Erick Son of Erick’s role as devout Christian is to determine who else is or isn’t a Christian:

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Every bit as narrow-minded as the extremists we’re fighting overseas.

108 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 4:57:23pm

re: #103 Patricia Kayden

I agree. Until Secretary Hilary Clinton actually wins the election in November 2016, we should be on our toes. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bush the Younger gives her a run for her money. He’s the best the Republicans have.

It’ll be a tough race. I am interested though in seeing how Jeb runs a modern race though. He hasn’t had an actual campaign in twelve years and a lot in how campaigns are done has changed since then. But he’s certainly a formidable candidate.

109 PhillyPretzel  Feb 21, 2015 4:58:01pm

re: #100 bratwurst

I just fixed Erick’s statement. /half

I don’t think. Barack Obama is a Christian.

110 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 4:58:18pm

Hmmm. Michael Roston tweets to me…

A minute later, Chuck C. retweets Michael Roston.

Just a coinkydink, I’m sure.

111 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 4:58:22pm

re: #107 Targetpractice

Every bit as narrow-minded as the extremists we’re fighting overseas.

Indeed, I like to joke that the real difference between people like Erick and his ilk and Islamists is their Holy Book of choice and a razor blade.

112 b.d.  Feb 21, 2015 4:58:35pm

Has Dave Weigel come out defending Erickson’s tweet yet?

113 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 4:59:58pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

It’ll be a tough race. I am interested though in seeing how Jeb runs a modern race though. He hasn’t had an actual campaign in twelve years and a lot in how campaigns are done has changed since then. But he’s certainly a formidable candidate.

I dunno. Running a state of less than 20M is a far different animal than running an entire nation of 315M.

114 b.d.  Feb 21, 2015 5:00:06pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

Hmmm. Michael Roston tweets to me…

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A minute later, Chuck C. retweets Michael Roston.

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Just a coinkydink, I’m sure.

If you block Chuck he’ll have to pay you to read your tweets.

//

115 Jenner7  Feb 21, 2015 5:03:31pm
116 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 5:04:24pm

And BTW, even though Clinton was gov of a state of less than 3M, Jeb Bush is no Clinton.

117 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 5:05:01pm

re: #114 b.d.

I did block him, long ago. Blocking doesn’t really mean much on Twitter.

118 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 5:05:33pm

re: #113 Justanotherhuman

I dunno. Running a state of less than 20M is a far different animal than running an entire nation of 315M.

Sure but you can say that about any would be governor that enters a presidential race. I think his biggest handicaps are A) the base’s lack of trust in him and B) that he’s been out of the game for over a decade now. I see actually the nominee being someone like Walker. Someone to appease both the so-con wackos and the greedy econ cons.

119 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 5:06:10pm
120 electrotek  Feb 21, 2015 5:09:17pm

re: #100 bratwurst

Erick Son of Erick’s role as devout Christian is to determine who else is or isn’t a Christian:

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Douchebag just loves to declare his own version of takfir, doesn’t he?

121 electrotek  Feb 21, 2015 5:11:45pm

re: #2 b.d.

I bet if you asked him whether ISIS was Islamic or not he’d know.

I bet if you asked him what a Sufi or an Ahmadi is, he would surely know

122 EPR-radar  Feb 21, 2015 5:13:02pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Sure but you can say that about any would be governor that enters a presidential race. I think his biggest handicaps are A) the base’s lack of trust in him and B) that he’s been out of the game for over a decade now. I see actually the nominee being someone like Walker. Someone to appease both the so-con wackos and the greedy econ cons.

It is certainly true that Walker as the POTUS nominee would make the GOP base very happy, while Bush as the nominee would piss off the base. Whether that irritation would affect the general election is hard to say —- the base would be really pissed, but they are also very reliable voters.

123 Kragar  Feb 21, 2015 5:15:42pm
124 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 5:17:32pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Sure but you can say that about any would be governor that enters a presidential race. I think his biggest handicaps are A) the base’s lack of trust in him and B) that he’s been out of the game for over a decade now. I see actually the nominee being someone like Walker. Someone to appease both the so-con wackos and the greedy econ cons.

Even so, I think Walker would be far easier to beat than Bush. It’s much easier to ambush Walker because he’s just a total idiot and comes off as being against the average person (not to mention his financial backing which will be red meat for the pundits). And they don’t appeal to the same crowd, so Bush is going to have to go full throttle right wing to win them over. Is he going to talk about how he converted to Catholicism like his brother talked about being “born again”? And we know he’s already said he’s his “own man” regarding his brother’s policies—so that’s out of the way. Bush is going to re-invent himself in some ways to appeal to the base of the party.

125 lawhawk  Feb 21, 2015 5:18:03pm

re: #123 Kragar

126 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 5:23:45pm

I think one thing we can all agree on—popcorn stock is going nowhere but up.
: )

127 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 21, 2015 5:25:44pm

When some faction says they, and they alone, are the Real, True Christians, you shouldn’t take their word for it

(Graphic taken from slacktivist, aka Fred Clark—go read his stuff. He has at least three articles at the top of his blog that address stuff we’re all talking about: the ISIS piece in Atlantic, the wingnut preoccupation with Real, True, Christianity. Seriously, read this guy.)

128 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 5:27:59pm

re: #106 Patricia Kayden

Actually, should President Obama reveal that he’s actually not a Christian, I wouldn’t care. I don’t see how one’s religion is important to one’s ability to be a good President.

Good, so now there are two of us.

129 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 5:28:59pm

Cat administered oxygen by SFFD, expected to be OK. (Photos)

FIRE IN SAN FRANCISCO’S MISSION DISTRICT CONTAINED

abc7news.com

130 BeenHereAwhile  Feb 21, 2015 5:30:18pm

re: #106 Patricia Kayden

Actually, should President Obama reveal that he’s actually not a Christian, I wouldn’t care. I don’t see how one’s religion is important to one’s ability to be a good President.

Re Eric:

As someone who graduated from Mercer University in 1972, and lived in Macon, GA, for 20 years.

WGAS

131 Justanotherhuman  Feb 21, 2015 5:32:50pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm and get the popcorn and adult refreshments ready. : )

132 ObserverArt  Feb 21, 2015 5:34:30pm

re: #126 Justanotherhuman

I think one thing we can all agree on—popcorn stock is going nowhere but up.
: )

By it in bulk…it’s going to be a long year…
133 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 5:36:13pm

“You can’t explain that”, says BillO.

Liveleak Video

134 Varek Raith  Feb 21, 2015 5:36:59pm

re: #133 Skip Intro

Sorcery.

135 b.d.  Feb 21, 2015 5:41:00pm

Well, well:

Damage control team to The Washington Post! Stat!

After the interview was completed, Walker spokeswoman Jocelyn Webster telephoned The Washington Post to say the governor was trying to make a point of principle by not answering such kinds of questions, not trying to cast doubt on Obama’s faith.

“Of course the governor thinks the president is a Christian,” she said.

washingtonpost.com

136 Timothy Watson  Feb 21, 2015 5:43:24pm

re: #135 b.d.

Well, well:

Damage control team to The Washington Post! Stat!

washingtonpost.com

What a bunch of unmitigated horseshit.

137 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2015 5:47:35pm

Well let’s see, Obama has:

- Been married only once and never had an affair
- By all accounts done an incredible job of providing a stable and loving home for his daughters DESPITE the stresses of being President
- Gone to great efforts to help the poor and less fortunate
- Supported many charitable causes and organizations
- Supported diversity and denounced racism and hatred
- By all accounts been considered pretty darned humble

But he hasn’t been Christian in a meaningful way at all…

/

138 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 5:49:04pm

re: #136 Timothy Watson

washingtonpost.com

What a bunch of unmitigated horseshit.

Didn’t the WP used to be a respected newspaper? From the first few comments it looks like they’ve wrapped up the Fox News viewers.

139 Skip Intro  Feb 21, 2015 5:51:18pm

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

To be a Good Christian, you have to hate abortion and love guns. All the rest of the stuff in the bible is just filler, except Revelations, where we’ll get to enjoy watching our enemies suffer in extreme pain for eternity while Jesus peels us grapes.

140 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2015 5:53:10pm

re: #138 Skip Intro

Didn’t the WP used to be a respected newspaper? From the first few comments it looks like they’ve wrapped up the Fox News viewers.

The WP has been owned by Jeff Bezos since 2013.

141 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 5:54:14pm

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

Well let’s see, Obama has:

- Been married only once and never had an affair
- By all accounts done an incredible job of providing a stable and loving home for his daughters DESPITE the stresses of being President
- Gone to great efforts to help the poor and less fortunate
- Supported many charitable causes and organizations
- Supported diversity and denounced racism and hatred
- By all accounts been considered pretty darned humble

But he hasn’t been Christian in a meaningful way at all…

/

He doesn’t hate gays and non-Christians so ergo to Erick not a real Christian.

142 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Feb 21, 2015 5:54:23pm

The people in charge of defining who is and who is not a Christian these days makes me not want to be one.

143 ObserverArt  Feb 21, 2015 5:54:56pm

Some mentions of Maher around here lately got me to thinking of taking a poke at him.

See you all later!

144 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 6:00:19pm
145 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2015 6:04:16pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

Again, always with the “We”.

146 Kragar  Feb 21, 2015 6:11:04pm
147 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 6:13:24pm
148 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 6:18:29pm

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

Again, always with the “We”.

His left hand is one busy journalist.

149 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 6:20:39pm

Even if he were a Muslim, so what. This is America. We don’t prohibit people from holding office because of their religions. If the wingnuts want a society that does, might I suggest a place like Saudi Arabia. Even Iran allows non-Muslim holders so great job guys you’re more reactionary than Iran’s government when it comes to people of differing religions holding office. The thing is though Obama’s not a Muslim. Really how bored are they that they’re constantly trotting this out?

150 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 6:21:26pm

I’m old enough to remember when George W. Bush actually campaigned for the Muslim-American vote and furthermore that many Muslim-Americans were receptive to his message.

151 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 21, 2015 6:21:33pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Even if he were a Muslim, so what. This is America. We don’t prohibit people from holding office because of their religions. If the wingnuts want a society that does, might I suggest a place like Saudi Arabia. Even Iran allows non-Muslim holders so great job guys you’re more reactionary than Iran’s government when it comes to people of differing religions holding office. The thing is though Obama’s not a Muslim. Really how bored are they that they’re constantly trotting this out?

Because it plays well with the base.

152 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2015 6:22:10pm

$10 says CCJ uses government assistance of some kind

153 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 6:22:38pm

re: #151 Feline Fearless Leader

Because it plays well with the base.

True.

154 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 21, 2015 6:22:38pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

I’m old enough to remember when George W. Bush actually campaigned for the Muslim-American vote and furthermore that many Muslim-Americans were receptive to his message.

He did well with Latinos too.

155 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 6:24:38pm

re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg

He did well with Latinos too.

Yeah he did and to his credit, he didn’t pull a Romney and talk about self-deporting in one instance and pretended to be welcoming in another. I have many faults with George W. Bush both as a president and a man but when it came to understanding the aspirations of Latin Americans including the many immigrant communities within that group, he understood that better than any other Republican that has held high office in his party since he left office.

156 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 6:32:35pm
157 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 21, 2015 6:39:17pm

Can we start calling Jeb Bush “Yet Another Bush” now?

YAB seems like a nice acronym for him…

158 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 6:40:31pm
159 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 21, 2015 6:40:53pm

Just Enough Bush!

(Already! optional)

160 Kragar  Feb 21, 2015 6:44:58pm
161 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 6:53:15pm

re: #158 Charles Johnson

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Oh you poor little martyr.

162 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 6:56:28pm

I like how he acts as if there was no concerted conservative smear effort against Obama’s past. Uh let’s see. I heard enough about Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright to last me centuries. And shit if anything Obama went too easy on Romney but given that he was an incumbent, he didn’t have to. Just love that right wing revisionism where “if only” they had been harder on Obama, they would have won. Yeah because somehow we were all going to forget that John McCain showed himself to be woefully unwilling and unready to handle an economic crisis and he chose as a running mate a woman that you wouldn’t trust running your local school board let alone someone you could expect to handle the duties of VP.

163 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 7:00:42pm

I mean damn I know it kills conservatives that Obama is the most successful electorally speaking president since their hero Reagan but the facts are there. The man has been elected with over 50% of the vote twice. Only Reagan, Ike, and Obama have done that since WWII and Reagan was at 50.9 in his first election.

164 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 7:02:28pm
165 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 7:03:51pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

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And they call Obama a narcissist. Humility isn’t your strong suit and you and I both know that you and yours were the biggest detractors of Gaileo and Darwin. Hell many of you still hate Darwin today when you liken evolutionary theory to Nazism.

166 Iwouldprefernotto  Feb 21, 2015 7:04:03pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

[Yes, our Chuck is exactly like Galileo and Darwin. A hero for the ages.

More like Charles Manson.

167 Pip's Squeak  Feb 21, 2015 7:05:13pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

It’ll be a tough race. I am interested though in seeing how Jeb runs a modern race though. He hasn’t had an actual campaign in twelve years and a lot in how campaigns are done has changed since then. But he’s certainly a formidable candidate.

I think that if Bush is nominated he’s likely to win against Clinton.

As follows: both ‘Bush’ and ‘Clinton’ are dynastic products and as such, mediocre candidates. The right wing nuts loathe Clinton, so they’ll come out and vote for Bush even though they’d prefer someone worse. The Democrats don’t like Bush, but hate him less than the Republicans Clinton, wherefore in comparison Democratic turnout will be less than stellar, although better than 2014. The result will be a Bush victory.

Shudder.

I but hope that turnout will be high enough so that the Democrats retake the Senate.

168 b.d.  Feb 21, 2015 7:06:21pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

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Is Chuck admitting that Darwin was right? His crowd isn’t going to like that.

169 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 7:08:44pm

re: #167 Pip’s Squeak

I think that if Bush is nominated he’s likely to win against Clinton.

As follows: both ‘Bush’ and ‘Clinton’ are dynastic products and as such, mediocre candidates. The right wing nuts loathe Clinton, so they’ll come out and vote for Bush even though they’d prefer someone worse. The Democrats don’t like Bush, but hate him less than the Republicans Clinton, wherefore in comparison Democratic turnout will be less than stellar, although better than 2014. The result will be a Bush victory.

Shudder.

I but hope that turnout will be high enough so that the Democrats retake the Senate.

I don’t know but I do worry about the Democrats getting enough people out to vote for Hillary. You’re right that she’s going to have a large number of people turned out to vote against her.

170 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 7:09:51pm

re: #168 b.d.

Is Chuck admitting that Darwin was right? His crowd isn’t going to like that.

I think it’s the common right wing tactic of taking up the mantle of people they smear. Kind of like how they complain about “blacklisting” yet they’re the ones who insist that McCarthy was right to do what he did or when they liken an Obama scandal to Watergate even though they think actual Watergate was a liberal lie.

171 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 21, 2015 7:11:52pm

re: #167 Pip’s Squeak

I think that if Bush is nominated he’s likely to win against Clinton.

As follows: both ‘Bush’ and ‘Clinton’ are dynastic products and as such, mediocre candidates. The right wing nuts loathe Clinton, so they’ll come out and vote for Bush even though they’d prefer someone worse. The Democrats don’t like Bush, but hate him less than the Republicans Clinton, wherefore in comparison Democratic turnout will be less than stellar, although better than 2014. The result will be a Bush victory.

Shudder.

I but hope that turnout will be high enough so that the Democrats retake the Senate.

The right wing nuts loathed Bill Clinton for 8 years. They impeached him. Yet when he left office, polls showed he could easily have won a third term if he could have run for one.

The last Bush that left office couldn’t have been elected dogcatcher, and left the country in a state where a Black man named Hussein won handily—in the middle of a Middle East war.

I’m having trouble seeing the dynastic baggage as symmetrical.

172 b.d.  Feb 21, 2015 7:11:55pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

I think it’s the common right wing tactic of taking up the mantle of people they smear. Kind of like how they complain about “blacklisting” yet they’re the ones who insist that McCarthy was right to do what he did or when they liken an Obama scandal to Watergate even though they think actual Watergate was a liberal lie.

I also love it when the baggers complain about one of their candidates being swiftboated when they screamed forever that swiftboating was perfectly legit.

173 NotAgain  Feb 21, 2015 7:15:12pm

re: #157 William Barnett-Lewis

For Jeb, rather than JAB, I like George III, Great fun teasing wingnuts.

174 Iwouldprefernotto  Feb 21, 2015 7:15:37pm

re: #171 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The right wing nuts loathed Bill Clinton for 8 years. They impeached him. Yet when he left office, polls showed he could easily have won a third term if he could have run for one.

The last Bush that left office couldn’t have been elected dogcatcher, and left the country in a state where a Black man named Hussein won handily—in the middle of a Middle East war.

I’m having trouble seeing the dynastic baggage as symmetrical.

It isn’t.

175 Charles Johnson  Feb 21, 2015 7:21:26pm
176 Belafon  Feb 21, 2015 7:27:43pm

In late because we did a birthday party for my youngest son (involved looking at Jupiter a lot which was fun):

i’m kind of glad Obama’s version of Christianity doesn’t involve judging others based on whether they believe what he does, and totally ignoring the teachings of the person he claims to follow.

ETA: Shorter me: I’m glad Obama’s version of Christianity isn’t the opposite of what Jesus said.

177 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 21, 2015 7:33:04pm

re: #169 HappyWarrior

I don’t know but I do worry about the Democrats getting enough people out to vote for Hillary. You’re right that she’s going to have a large number of people turned out to vote against her.

Yes, she is. But that’s just a fact of political life nowadays. All the RWNJs are going to turn out—no matter who the Democratic nominee is. None of them are going to be prevented from voting by these various vote suppression schemes. That’s just the basic situation.

It being an open presidential year, a lot of people who can only be arsed to vote in that kind of a contest are going to turn out—and Hillary’s “negatives” don’t matter to them. They’re mantras the right-wing base intone to each other in their epistemic closure vaults.

Plus a lot of butthurt PUMAs will come back out to vote for their gal Hill, who had the nomination stolen by that nasty black man.

Also, being white will be good for at least 5 points (sad but true). It remains to be seen how many points not having a penis will cost her.

178 HappyWarrior  Feb 21, 2015 7:35:27pm

re: #177 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yes, she is. But that’s just a fact of political life nowadays. All the RWNJs are going to turn out—no matter who the Democratic nominee is. None of them are going to be prevented from voting by these various vote suppression schemes. That’s just the basic situation.

It being an open presidential year, a lot of people who can only be arsed to vote in that kind of a contest are going to turn out—and Hillary’s “negatives” don’t matter to them. They’re mantras the right-wing base intone to each other in their epistemic closure vaults.

Plus a lot of butthurt PUMAs will come back out to vote for their gal Hill, who had the nomination stolen by that nasty black man.

Also, being white will be good for at least 5 points (sad but true). It remains to be seen how many points not having a penis will cost her.

True points. It’s a tough road for whoever the nominee is. I’d bet Hillary over Jeb at this point though. I think Hillary will have more enthusiasm coming from her base and I would hope that Democratic voters have learned what happens by sitting out.

179 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 21, 2015 7:41:47pm

re: #168 b.d.

Chuck has tweeted that evolution proves there are races, and that liberals are denying there has been evo in the last 10,000 years when they deny race exists.

So, yeah, he’s admitting evolution with racist characteristics exists.

180 A Cranky One  Feb 21, 2015 8:12:32pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

As Carl Sagan noted:

The fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
Broca’s Brain (1979), p. 64

181 labman57  Feb 22, 2015 9:28:08am

Scott Walker won’t answer “gotcha” questions, as his scripted responses are restricted to “Koch-a” questions.

(He’s got a Koch and a smile …)


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