Republicans Overwhelmingly Support Ignoring the Constitution

57% polled in PPP polling say Christianity should be established as national religion.
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What part of the First Amendment, and Article VI of the US Constitution do those polled by a Public Policy Polling survey not get? Oh wait, they’re into ahistorical revisionism and imposing a theocracy, so it must be my mistake.

PPP polling Feb 20-22, 2015

The poll, the full report of which is here, shows 57% of Republicans think that Christianity should be the official religion.

This poll should be particularly troubling for all Americans, since the nation was founded on religious freedom, and yet the Republican party is actively pandering to those who want to turn that concept on its head. Republican candidates for the Presidency in 2016 are actively courting supporters who want to see the country turned into a theocracy.

First among that list are Mike Huckabee. 94% of his supporters support establishing Christianity as the national religion. Not far behind him are Rick Perry at 83% and Ben Carson at 78%. Even Chris Christie garners 70%. Among self-identified Tea Party members, 58% support establishing Christianity as national religion.

Only 30% of Republicans polled oppose establishing Christianity as a national religion.

Consider this another sign of GOP outreach. The GOP likes to talk about how they’re reaching out to Jews (and other minorities), but their actual conduct is something quite different. They are actively pushing religious beliefs into the public sphere at an alarming rate, and questioning the President’s own religious beliefs is further part of that trend (which again runs up against Article VI):

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

While the poll used a generic Christianity, there’s no word on which version of Christianity, these people would support. The point being that these people want to impose a religious theocracy, and who cares about the First Amendment, the Constitution, or more than 230 years of traditional separation of church and state.

As an aside, the PPP poll also runs a few correlations, such as comparing those who believe in global warming to those who support establishing Christianity as national religion. And that goes as one would expect (66% don’t believe in global warming, 49% don’t believe in evolution).

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91 comments
1 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2015 11:08:03am

Stop the country, I want to get off.

2 De Kolta Chair  Feb 24, 2015 11:45:25am

“You want one single item of proof that America is a Christian nation and not a Jewish nation and not an Islamic nation? One single bit of proof is all you need: we freely allow restaurants and grocery stores to sell and to serve bacon. That can only happen in a Christian country.

— Bryan Fischer, September 15, 2014

3 CriticalDragon1177  Feb 24, 2015 12:01:35pm

lawhawk,

So much for the claim that the religious right, doesn’t pose a threat to our freedom.

4 CriticalDragon1177  Feb 24, 2015 12:03:52pm

re: #2 De Kolta Chair

“You want one single item of proof that America is a Christian nation and not a Jewish nation and not an Islamic nation? One single bit of proof is all you need: we freely allow restaurants and grocery stores to sell and to serve bacon. That can only happen in a Christian country.

— Bryan Fischer, September 15, 2014

I did a post on that awhile back. I’m guessing Fischer thinks that China, Japan and India must also be “Christian nations.” Its like forgot that the world isn’t made up of only Christians, Muslims and Jews.

5 Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2015 12:21:33pm

Such lovely people.

6 Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2015 12:22:21pm

Bamster?

7 CriticalDragon1177  Feb 24, 2015 12:25:03pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

8 Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2015 12:27:22pm
9 nines09  Feb 24, 2015 12:27:34pm

I can’t find boots high enough to go into Twitter anymore.

10 CriticalDragon1177  Feb 24, 2015 12:27:52pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

11 CriticalDragon1177  Feb 24, 2015 12:30:17pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

12 CriticalDragon1177  Feb 24, 2015 12:34:34pm

re: #10 CriticalDragon1177

13 Thanos  Feb 24, 2015 12:36:51pm

re: #12 CriticalDragon1177

You are arguing with a Hot Air bot…

14 Romantic Heretic  Feb 24, 2015 12:43:06pm
While the poll used a generic Christianity, there’s no word on which version of Christianity, these people would support.

I can tell you which one.

Which ever one allows them to be proudest of their belief and cruelest to those who do not share it.

Most of them would go full on Khorne if they could square it with their version of Christianity.

15 HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2015 12:44:51pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Such lovely people.

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I guess Hayes missed the big part of the first amendment. Fucking right wing dumbasses always talking about how they love the Constitution. Well, making Christianity the official religion of the US would be a direct violation of the first amendment.

16 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 12:45:37pm
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

This is not in the Constitution. The Constitution expressly says

Everybody gets to have all the gunz.

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17 HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2015 12:45:39pm

Republicans and conservatives seem to have a big problem with that whole first amendment thing.

18 CriticalDragon1177  Feb 24, 2015 12:45:47pm

re: #13 Thanos

You are arguing with a Hot Air bot…

I was actually going to post my reply to his last tweet here and call it a day, unfortunately his last tweet is too obscene for that.

I don’t think I’m going to bother with him anymore anyway.

19 teleskiguy  Feb 24, 2015 12:46:05pm

Today’s conservatives wanting to bring down Jefferson’s Wall of Separation has got to be one of the more disturbing political developments I’ve seen in my lifetime.

20 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 12:46:55pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

hurr hurr second amendments allows us to have are guns and Christian God.

21 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 24, 2015 12:47:19pm

I remember when this “America is a Christian nation” rhetoric first started surfacing among the Campus Crusade for Christ folks in the 70’s. When Reagan was elected, they all orgasmed in their shorts, assuming he would personally amend the Constitution to reflect their bigotry.

They have not given up, and I am beginning to see that the way they play up the Islamist threat and imaginary creeping Sharia is one of the strategies they are employing to see their dream of an American Christian Caliphate come true.

22 HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2015 12:47:41pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

Today’s conservatives wanting to bring down Jefferson’s Wall of Separation has got to be one of the more disturbing political developments I’ve seen in my lifetime.

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It’s not merely their wanting to bring it down. It’s how they see it. I think one religious right nutcase, may have even been David Barton who said the whole concept of separation of church and state comes from Hitler.

23 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 12:48:08pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Such lovely people.

The Constitution is perfect just as it is but it needs to be amended to make my religion the only religion. //

24 Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2015 12:48:40pm
25 HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2015 12:50:22pm

These people seriously think that the Constitution is only for them.

26 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 24, 2015 12:51:03pm
27 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 24, 2015 12:51:37pm

Germany officially has no state religion, but they have a “voluntary” church tax (payable to either the Lutheran or Catholic church).

Nobody has to pay it, but it is a matter of public record, is right there on your tax withholding form.

And there is religious instruction in their public schools, funded by the church, again, available in Catholic or Lutheran. There is an opt-out for “ethics” classes for those who do not go for the official flavors.

I think this is a bit closer to what our American Taliban would like to see.

28 HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2015 12:52:01pm

re: #26 The Mother Of All Pies

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Exactly. Keystone is typical and class short term thinking ignoring the long term. It really is a great illustration of how conservatives approach things in this country I must say though.

29 FemNaziBitch  Feb 24, 2015 12:52:06pm

Well, I took a nap and that is just about all I’ve accompanished this day.

you?

30 FemNaziBitch  Feb 24, 2015 12:53:26pm

re: #27 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Germany officially has no state religion, but they have a “voluntary” church tax (payable to either the Lutheran or Catholic church).

Nobody has to pay it, but it is a matter of public record, is right there on your tax withholding form.

And there is religious instruction in their public schools, funded by the church, again, available in Catholic or Lutheran. There is an opt-out for “ethics” classes for those who do not go for the official flavors.

I think this is a bit closer to what our American Taliban would like to see.

I wouldn’t mind seeing a class on THE LAW. Including sexual behavior, violent behavior, child rearing and other such relavent practical issues.

All I got was the law related to driving in driver’s ed.

31 HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2015 12:54:33pm

re: #30 FemNaziBitch

I wouldn’t mind seeing a class on THE LAW. Including sexual behavior, violent behavior, child rearing and other such relavent practical issues.

All I got was the law related to driving in driver’s ed.

An intro to the law class mandated for all college undergrads would be great. And with that, I think I am going to do some reading for my paralegal class.

32 FemNaziBitch  Feb 24, 2015 12:54:35pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

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The Fugitive is at Agility Bootcamp at my junior handler’s house. They are fostering a 3-legged senior chihuahua. I got a text the first day that said senior is determined to eat the Fugitive.

HA!

33 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 24, 2015 12:54:41pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Keystone is typical and class short term thinking ignoring the long term. It really is a great illustration of how conservatives approach things in this country I must say though.

People have already forgotten what the fracking boom did to North Dakota: drove rents through the roof (nobody is going to invest in housing for a temporary clientele), flooded communities with out-of-state workers who had to affiliation or interest in the region and moved on leaving a few people a lot richer and a lot more no better off or even worse than before.

34 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 24, 2015 12:55:26pm

re: #30 FemNaziBitch

I wouldn’t mind seeing a class on THE LAW. Including sexual behavior, violent behavior, child rearing and other such relavent practical issues.

All I got was the law related to driving in driver’s ed.

It is clear that Civics is given short shrift in American schools, otherwise this issue would be a moot point.

35 FemNaziBitch  Feb 24, 2015 12:55:31pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

Republicans and conservatives seem to have a big problem with that whole first amendment thing.

from way back when blacks were adjudicated more than 3/5 human … .

36 Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2015 12:57:01pm

Just purchased earthquake insurance for my house. OK, tectonic plates, do your worst.

37 scottslemmons  Feb 24, 2015 12:57:04pm

I’ve always believed that if you handed your average teabagger a copy of the Constitution and told them to really read it all the way through, they’d decide they wanted to burn the whole country down. No Baptist theocracy? Black people allowed to live?! WELL-REGULATED?!? They’d explode with rage.

Same way the best way to kill off Christianity would be to require Christians to read their Bibles.

38 lawhawk  Feb 24, 2015 12:57:14pm
39 HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2015 12:57:26pm

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is clear that Civics is given short shrift in American schools, otherwise this issue would be a moot point.

Yeah Civics and Government are required courses here. Not too many people take either class seriously though. My favorite moment of 12th grade government was seeing the xenophobic kid fail the sample citizenship test. I’m helping to tutor my sister n law for her test. I hope I can help her. I’ve never really tutored before.

40 HappyWarrior  Feb 24, 2015 12:58:10pm

re: #38 lawhawk

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Downright tyrannical.//

41 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 24, 2015 12:58:22pm

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

People have already forgotten what the fracking boom did to North Dakota: drove rents through the roof (nobody is going to invest in housing for a temporary clientele), flooded communities with out-of-state workers who had to affiliation or interest in the region and moved on leaving a few people a lot richer and a lot more no better off or even worse than before.

Williston ND has higher housing costs than NY or LA. People come on short-term contracts, can’t find apartments, live in tents. This means the entire working population are a bunch of transients. Really shitty business model and local government model.

42 FemNaziBitch  Feb 24, 2015 12:58:43pm

‘The Bible Said What!?’ 7 Illustrations of the Bible’s Most Absurd Passages

“Perhaps one of my favorite verses in the Bible, and perhaps the one most blatantly ignored by too many Christians, is this one about treating your neighbor as you would like to be treated,” Mascagni says. “Far too often Christians use passages from the Bible not to promote love and peace but to justify hatred and bigotry.

43 Jenner7  Feb 24, 2015 12:59:47pm

re: #38 lawhawk

I’d have preferred, “Suck it, bitches!”

44 FemNaziBitch  Feb 24, 2015 1:00:45pm
45 Romantic Heretic  Feb 24, 2015 1:01:22pm

re: #37 scottslemmons

I remember back in the 70s I was listening to the radio. I heard an item where a University in Utah, I recall, typed up the Constitution and hit the streets to have people read it and ask their opinion of it.

About 66% of the total couldn’t recognize it. A third thought it was written by Communists.

Anecdotes are not data but even then in my late teens and being a Canadian I found that very disturbing.

46 Jenner7  Feb 24, 2015 1:01:36pm

re: #44 FemNaziBitch

His luck will run out eventually…

47 lawhawk  Feb 24, 2015 1:01:41pm

So says the guy who’s beholden to the oil industry and who’s spent more time trying to get a pipeline built that will favor Canadian energy interests than an actual infrastructure bill that will put thousands of people to work, improve roads, bridges, rail, and air travel by improving efficiency and reduce costs from bad roads/bridges/rail,air delays, etc.

He’s been shilling for the pipeline to the exclusion of everything else. He’s nothing if not predictable.

Politicians should be forced to wear NASCAR outfits so we can see who bought them. /

48 Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2015 1:01:49pm

Good grief. Some people are just never satisfied.

49 Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2015 1:02:21pm
50 lawhawk  Feb 24, 2015 1:02:50pm

The socialist president strikes again:

51 Romantic Heretic  Feb 24, 2015 1:03:09pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

One…BOOM!

52 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 1:03:32pm

re: #26 The Mother Of All Pies

Why does Vicky Ohio Native care about the Keystone pipeline?

53 FemNaziBitch  Feb 24, 2015 1:04:17pm
54 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 1:04:21pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Good grief. Some people are just never satisfied.

Obama worser than Bush. ///

55 FemNaziBitch  Feb 24, 2015 1:05:07pm
56 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 24, 2015 1:05:55pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

57 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 24, 2015 1:06:27pm

re: #50 lawhawk

The socialist president strikes again:

Even with veto of eleventy thousand jobs pipeline????@??!??!?!

58 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 24, 2015 1:06:55pm

re: #52 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Why does Vicky Ohio Native care about the Keystone pipeline?

I don’t care, I blocked her already.

59 FemNaziBitch  Feb 24, 2015 1:07:04pm

OMG!!

60 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 24, 2015 1:07:21pm

re: #26 The Mother Of All Pies

Only 34 real jobs. Except for the “clean up” jobs I suppose.

Thank you, Mr. President, for doing what is right.

61 SoCaroLion  Feb 24, 2015 1:07:35pm

So, let me get this straight. First, according to this poll, Scott Walker, by a significant 7% margin (25% to Ben Carson’s 18%), is leading the other NINE candidates included on the list of choices. In other words, Walker is the most appealing Republican candidate of the available choices. (This is further evidenced by the fact that Walker is the potential candidate recently garnering the most media attention.)

Second, the same poll also indicates that, by a 6% margin (42% to 36%), Walker’s potential voters OPPOSE the establishment of Christianity as the national religion.

So I guess the point is that in order to actually make your point, you have to ignore the statistical views of the voters who chose Scott Walker as the front runner. In other words, your point collapses when examining only the apparent front runner, Scott Walker.

Finally, I think it refreshing and reassuring that Walker supporters are apparently this reasonable.

On the other hand, this poll was also conducted by the same organization that once issued a poll about hipsters being annoying. So there’s that…

62 Romantic Heretic  Feb 24, 2015 1:07:42pm

re: #55 FemNaziBitch

And with that, I’m heading out for dinner. I’ve had enough insanity for one day.

63 Justanotherhuman  Feb 24, 2015 1:08:28pm

Fear, fear, fear.

That’s all.

64 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2015 1:08:28pm

re: #59 FemNaziBitch

OMG!!

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I got D’s in Penmanship all through Grade School. I say to hell with him/her!
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65 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2015 1:09:27pm

re: #59 FemNaziBitch

OMG!!

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With perfect serifs, for crying out loud!

66 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 24, 2015 1:11:55pm

re: #41 The Mother Of All Pies

Williston ND has higher housing costs than NY or LA. People come on short-term contracts, can’t find apartments, live in tents. This means the entire working population are a bunch of transients. Really shitty business model and local government model.

That same area comes up in the discussion of wages for fast-food jobs since that is the one place where some workers were getting $15/hour. Directly connected to low population, high service demand, and high cost-of-living there.

67 nines09  Feb 24, 2015 1:12:11pm

Fanaticism. It’s not just for the bad guys anymore.

68 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 24, 2015 1:12:45pm

re: #47 lawhawk

So says the guy who’s beholden to the oil industry and who’s spent more time trying to get a pipeline built that will favor Canadian energy interests than an actual infrastructure bill that will put thousands of people to work, improve roads, bridges, rail, and air travel by improving efficiency and reduce costs from bad roads/bridges/rail,air delays, etc.

He’s been shilling for the pipeline to the exclusion of everything else. He’s nothing if not predictable.

Politicians should be forced to wear NASCAR outfits so we can see who bought them. /

I guess another lawsuit is not far behind.
////

69 nines09  Feb 24, 2015 1:13:06pm

re: #66 Feline Fearless Leader

That same area comes up in the discussion of wages for fast-food jobs since that is the one place where some workers were getting $15/hour. Directly connected to low population, high service demand, and high cost-of-living there.

It’s called Boom Town. It eventually goes……BOOM. thud.

70 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 24, 2015 1:13:33pm

re: #55 FemNaziBitch

Sounds like they need a direct application of brain bleach.
//

71 lawhawk  Feb 24, 2015 1:13:39pm

re: #61 SoCaroLion

Look at the overall tally - 58% would want to see Christianity established as national religion. That Walker (who’s currently the flavor of the month for the GOP as silly season cranks up) is leading doesn’t diminish fact that the GOP as a whole are pushing into theocracy territory.

Give it another month, and you’ll see the GOP lead change to Bush or Rubio or Cruz, but the underlying support for establishing Christianity remaining remarkably constant.

Don’t let Walker’s followers’ supposed “moderation” fool you.

72 FemNaziBitch  Feb 24, 2015 1:14:46pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

With perfect serifs, for crying out loud!

I had semesters!!!! of lettering for the drafting board and that penmanship makes me want to vomit. I never want again to “letter” anything.

I can barely hold a pen now.

73 EPR-radar  Feb 24, 2015 1:16:40pm

re: #71 lawhawk

Look at the overall tally - 58% would want to see Christianity established as national religion. That Walker (who’s currently the flavor of the month for the GOP as silly season cranks up) is leading doesn’t diminish fact that the GOP as a whole are pushing into theocracy territory.

Give it another month, and you’ll see the GOP lead change to Bush or Rubio or Cruz, but the underlying support for establishing Christianity remaining remarkably constant.

Don’t let Walker’s followers’ supposed “moderation” fool you.

Walker draws support from the parts of the GOP that would like the cult of Mammon to be established as a state religion in the US.

That explains the relatively low fraction of his supporters that are into a Christian theocracy.

74 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2015 1:21:01pm

re: #72 FemNaziBitch

I had semesters!!!! of lettering for the drafting board and that penmanship makes me want to vomit. I never want again to “letter” anything.

I can barely hold a pen now.

Not to brag, but I had years of penmanship in Catholic grade school and my handwriting is still beautiful 50 years later. I’m kind of OCD about it. I even collect pens (and use them). One of my favorite hobbies is calligraphy.

75 Eventual Carrion  Feb 24, 2015 1:22:58pm

re: #7 CriticalDragon1177

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And if the first amendment can be ignored and changed, so can the 2nd.

76 Dave In Austin  Feb 24, 2015 1:26:48pm

re: #56 The Mother Of All Pies

Could I humbly ask to be unblocked. If I said something long ago it must have been misunderstood…..

77 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2015 1:30:48pm

Oops. Wrong thread

78 SoCaroLion  Feb 24, 2015 1:41:49pm

re: #71 lawhawk

I disagree. I am inclined to believe that your purported evidence of a push toward Christian theocracy is actually a strident protest of the rise of secular theocracy and the ignorant notion that people, be they presidential candidates or not, with even the most modest religious beliefs are simply wrong or somehow inherently bad people unworthy of any respect.

79 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2015 1:42:32pm

re: #78 SoCaroLion

I disagree. I am inclined to believe that your purported evidence of a push toward Christian theocracy is actually a strident protest of the rise of secular theocracy and the ignorant notion that people, be they presidential candidates or not, with even the most modest religious beliefs are simply wrong or somehow inherently bad people unworthy of any respect.

…what?

80 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2015 1:42:57pm

re: #78 SoCaroLion

I disagree. I am inclined to believe that your purported evidence of a push toward Christian theocracy is actually a strident protest of the rise of secular theocracy and the ignorant notion that people, be they presidential candidates or not, with even the most modest religious beliefs are simply wrong or somehow inherently bad people unworthy of any respect.

“Secular Theocracy” - now there’s a new one to go with ‘Jumbo Shrimp’.

81 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2015 1:44:16pm

re: #79 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…what?

I know. Makes as much sense as the War on Christmas.

82 CuriousLurker  Feb 24, 2015 1:46:17pm

re: #79 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…what?

re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White

“Secular Theocracy” - now there’s a new one to go with ‘Jumbo Shrimp’.

Moderate extremist.

Atheist Muslim.

83 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2015 1:46:19pm

re: #78 SoCaroLion

I disagree. I am inclined to believe that your purported evidence of a push toward Christian theocracy is actually a strident protest of the rise of secular theocracy and the ignorant notion that people, be they presidential candidates or not, with even the most modest religious beliefs are simply wrong or somehow inherently bad people unworthy of any respect.

Just to be clear, I don’t give two shits about what people believe as long as they are not trying to impose those beliefs on me. I’m pretty sure that lawhawk feels the same way, although I wouldn’t presume to speak for him.

Also, given the number of members we have active here who are believers in various faiths …the mind just boggles.

Do you really see no issue with the fact that the majority of Republicans surveyed want to establish Christianity as the national religion?

84 SoCaroLion  Feb 24, 2015 1:58:44pm

re: #83 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Do you really see no issue with the fact that the majority of Republicans surveyed want to establish Christianity as the national religion?

No, not really. Why? It’s just a solitary question from an inconsequential poll (see “Hipsters”) 18 months away from the next presidential election.

Also, these comment sections wouldn’t be fun unless someone respectfully disagrees with the premise of the post.

85 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 24, 2015 2:00:31pm

re: #84 SoCaroLion

No, not really. Why? It’s just a solitary question from an inconsequential poll (see “Hipsters”) 18 months away from the next presidential election.

I’m sure their view on this issue has no effect on how these people vote. Or the mindset they hold. Or laws they might support.

///

86 ObserverArt  Feb 24, 2015 2:04:03pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not to brag, but I had years of penmanship in Catholic grade school and my handwriting is still beautiful 50 years later. I’m kind of OCD about it. I even collect pens (and use them). One of my favorite hobbies is calligraphy.

Me too. Add in mechanical drawing classes and four years of typography study and I can write and letter very well…if I take the time.

87 ObserverArt  Feb 24, 2015 2:07:47pm

re: #78 SoCaroLion

I disagree. I am inclined to believe that your purported evidence of a push toward Christian theocracy is actually a strident protest of the rise of secular theocracy and the ignorant notion that people, be they presidential candidates or not, with even the most modest religious beliefs are simply wrong or somehow inherently bad people unworthy of any respect.

You couldn’t possibly be more wrong.

But here is the big thing. The Constitution as written protects everyone. Why is that so damn hard to understand?

88 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Feb 24, 2015 2:24:46pm

once again, I would like to see a Venn Diagram set of those Republicans who want a Christian Theocracy along with a set of Whites who hold racist/racialist beliefs. I predict a massive overlap.

89 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 24, 2015 3:53:29pm

re: #59 FemNaziBitch

Ever seen a hen trying to write with a pen? That’s me!

90 TedStriker  Feb 24, 2015 5:53:10pm

re: #2 De Kolta Chair

“You want one single item of proof that America is a Christian nation and not a Jewish nation and not an Islamic nation? One single bit of proof is all you need: we freely allow restaurants and grocery stores to sell and to serve bacon. That can only happen in a Christian country.

— Bryan Fischer, September 15, 2014

91 palomino  Feb 24, 2015 6:22:15pm

re: #78 SoCaroLion

I disagree. I am inclined to believe that your purported evidence of a push toward Christian theocracy is actually a strident protest of the rise of secular theocracy and the ignorant notion that people, be they presidential candidates or not, with even the most modest religious beliefs are simply wrong or somehow inherently bad people unworthy of any respect.

Where the fuck did anyone say that? (Bill Maher doesn’t count, since he didn’t write this post.) You really think that’s the opinion of many people here? There are Jews, Christians, Muslims, Atheists, etc, on this blog every day. And most folks here at least respect Obama, who happens to a Christian (regardless of what right wing bigots contend). Your post addresses a strawman who lives only inside your head.


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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
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