A Picture of Bad Craziness: New Poll Shows 54% of Republicans Think Obama Is Muslim “Deep Down”

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Since Rudy Giuliani’s ugly comments about President Obama not loving America, I’ve been making the point that Scott Walker is deliberately dodging the question because he simply can’t afford to alienate the deeply deranged base of Republican voters if he plans to run for president. Today at the Washington Post, Assistant Professor of Political Science Alex Theodoridis has released the results of a poll he took in the fall of 2014 that shows exactly how bad the craziness is: Scott Walker’s View of Obama’s Religion Makes Him a Moderate.

A staggering 54 percent of Republicans said that “Muslim” best described what Obama “believes deep down.” Thirty percent of Republicans answered the way Walker did, by selecting “I don’t know.” Relatively few Republican respondents “take [Obama] at his word,” as Mitch McConnell put it: only 9 percent selected “Christian” to describe what Obama likely believes.

Even many Democrats weren’t taking Obama at his word. Only 45 percent chose “Christian,” while 17 percent said “spiritual,” 10 percent said “Muslim,” and 26 percent said they didn’t know.

Overall, 60 percent of respondents chose either Walker’s answer or “Muslim.”

This didn’t just start yesterday; the process of “othering” Obama by the right wing and the Republican Party has been an ongoing effort ever since he announced his first candidacy.

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337 comments

1 iossarian  Feb 25, 2015 11:08:53am

This is such a stupid waste of everyone’s time (not the post, just the incessant obsession from the right with whether people are Christian enough to be considered American).

2 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:09:22am

Of course. And this at heart on why Obama hasn’t had a normal opposition to deal with. He has an opposition that wants to believe the worst about him. That not only is President Obama a Muslim, he’s a sinister Muslim extremist out to destroy our way of life and I blame Republican officeholders past and present like Rudy for fueling this crap by treating Obama with complete contempt.

3 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:09:57am

re: #1 iossarian

This is such a stupid waste of everyone’s time (not the post, just the incessant obsession from the right with whether people are Christian enough to be considered American).

For sure, the right has this pathetic idea that the less Christian you are, the less American you are.

4 Kragar  Feb 25, 2015 11:10:51am

This makes perfect sense when you factor in that the GOP Base is mostly comprised of complete fucking idiots and racists.

5 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 11:12:15am

And even when you point out that Obama has taken the fight to al Qaeda and ISIL leadership more times than you can count, the right comes back with claims that others forced him into acting, or other conspiracy-level crazy to avoid the fact that Obama got OBL, Awlaki, al Libi, al Masri, and hundreds of other top and middle tier terrorists, to say nothing of thousands of other terrorists aligned with al Qaeda or ISIL/AQIP, etc.

As if Obama is a crypto Muslim all while he’s ordering the killing of Islamic terrorists who think that the US and Obama aren’t Muslim.

6 piratedan  Feb 25, 2015 11:12:28am

obviously the Right rejects the notion of American Dream and the premise of “give us your, poor, tired and downtrodden”, they see America as a gated community and anyone of color is only worthy of cutting the grass….

it’s a fucking shame that these folks are so scared of everything and everyone and we have so many folks preying upon those fears instead of allaying them.

7 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 11:14:06am

After reading the #tcot for so long I can totally believe this is what conservatives actually think.

8 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:14:09am

re: #6 piratedan

obviously the Right rejects the notion of American Dream and the premise of “give us your, poor, tired and downtrodden”, they see America as a gated community and anyone of color is only worthy of cutting the grass….

it’s a fucking shame that these folks are so scared of everything and everyone and we have so many folks preying upon those fears instead of allaying them.

It’s why ultimately I have more disdain for the Republican party officials than the base itself.

9 Dr. Matt  Feb 25, 2015 11:14:47am

File this under: Not surprised.

10 Kragar  Feb 25, 2015 11:17:02am

Giuliani’s claim that Obama did not love America came not on Fox News or during a stump speech but at a private Manhattan dinner for sixty or so political donors. Wade’s social media posts and Giuliani’s comments were different in tone, setting, and medium, but they were both expressions of the same behavior: Republicans falsely believing they were speaking only to each other. For all the talk of liberal media boogeymen, a structural disparity between how the GOP conceives of itself publicly versus privately may be the party’s real media problem.

11 piratedan  Feb 25, 2015 11:17:43am

re: #8 HappyWarrior

agree, the GOP leadership (and those that fund them) aren’t interested in resolving their ignorance, but in playing upon it for their own needs. While I loathe the willful stupidity/ignorance of those that swim in those waters, the folks that shape what they are fed are the real villains.

12 austin_blue  Feb 25, 2015 11:18:48am

And by “deep down” they mean “skin-deep down”.

13 allegro  Feb 25, 2015 11:19:41am

They always leave out the choice/option that I would choose: I don’t care. Obama and everyone else can be whatever they want to and claim whatever religion they want or not. I don’t care. As long as they are thoughtful, informed, sane people who can make good decisions for all of their constituents, I’m good with it. Where they spend their Sundays or Saturdays is up to them.

14 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:20:07am

re: #11 piratedan

agree, the GOP leadership (and those that fund them) aren’t interested in resolving their ignorance, but in playing upon it for their own needs. While I loathe the willful stupidity/ignorance of those that swim in those waters, the folks that shape what they are fed are the real villains.

Right and to go with that, I actually have more disdain and contempt for those like Lindsay Graham, John McCain, and other so called moderates than the TP nuts.

15 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 11:23:02am

re: #9 Dr. Matt

File this under: Not surprised.

Indeed.

Disturbed, though. And wondering how in hell you govern a country when a significant chunk will interpret any action or policy you undertake as anti-American simply because you favor it. It’s really a case of seeing the world through shit-colored glasses.

We’ve seen time and time again that Obama attempts compromise, even staking out a starting position that is very near to what Republicans propose, only to have them back away from their own proposals, taking ever more extreme positions. I used to think it was a highly cynical negotiating tactic, but I’ve come to the conclusion that it really is a case of the Right automatically thinking anything Obama supports MUST BE bad, even if it’s their own damned proposal.

How can one work under those conditions? It’s not just that the opposition is crazy and stupid. It’s that simply trying to work with them makes them crazier and stupider.

16 Kragar  Feb 25, 2015 11:23:54am
17 Lidane  Feb 25, 2015 11:26:36am
18 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:26:59am

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

Indeed.

Disturbed, though. And wondering how in hell you govern a country when a significant chunk will interpret any action or policy you undertake as anti-American simply because you favor it. It’s really a case of seeing the world through shit-colored glasses.

We’ve seen time and time again that Obama attempts compromise, even staking out a starting position that is very near to what Republicans propose, only to have them back away from their own proposals, taking ever more extreme positions. I used to think it was a highly cynical negotiating tactic, but I’ve come to the conclusion that it really is a case of the Right automatically thinking anything Obama supports MUST BE bad, even if it’s their own damned proposal.

How can one work under those conditions? It’s not just that the opposition is crazy and stupid. It’s that simply trying to work with them makes them crazier and stupider.

I can’t wait to read his memoirs. He really has had an uniquely crazy opposition. It’s not that other presidents have had reasonable opposition. FDR and Lincoln’s detractors were deranged too but they were at least somewhat consistent. Obama being for or against a policy even if that policy had been championed by the GOP in the past immediately becomes the wrong policy and not only the wrong policy but unAmerican and tyrannical. One thing I loved that Obama did to Romney in the debates was point out how ACA was in fact a national version of Romneycare, Mitt had tried weaseling out of it by saying Romneycare was only meant to be a statewide model for Massachusetts but Obama pointed out that Mitt in the past said that Romneycare should be a model for the nation. I bet Obama can’t wait to get out. I know I would with these guys as my opposition.

19 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:28:00am

re: #16 Kragar

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Okay, go home Peters you’re beyond drunk. Where the fuck do they find these people? Does Fox have an interoffice contest to see who can come up with the most absurd and pathetic attack on Obama?

20 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 11:28:18am

re: #16 Kragar

The analyst is a reincarnation of Bozo the Clown.

21 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:29:04am

re: #20 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

The analyst is a reincarnation of Bozo the Clown.

Nah Bozo was a much more astute commentator.

22 Skip Intro  Feb 25, 2015 11:30:19am

re: #4 Kragar

This makes perfect sense when you factor in that the GOP Base is mostly comprised of complete fucking idiots and racists.

Who live in gerrymandered districts that are completely safe no matter what the Rep does, other than being rational. These people have way too much power now, and it’s only going to get worse from here.

23 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 25, 2015 11:30:40am

Is it, at long last, time for a second Constitutional Convention? I’ve become convinced that t may be time for this nation to voluntarily and amicably divide itself into those states that see some sort of reason and the crazy fuckers. Let them see how their ideas work out when they don’t have the sane states to carry them.

24 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:30:45am

I am glad that we’re not experiencing something like WWII, the Civil War, or the Depression under Obama because it would probably be yay Hitler, yay CSA, and yay 25% unemployment rate if the Republicans we have now were the opposition that FDR and Lincoln had.

25 Kragar  Feb 25, 2015 11:31:14am
26 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 11:31:51am

re: #16 Kragar

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At least he didn’t mean literally.

That would have been terrifying.

27 Khal Wimpo  Feb 25, 2015 11:32:07am

re: #20 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

The analyst is a reincarnation of Bozo the Clown.

Can someone do a compilation of all the things that Fox News dingbats has said Obama is, tracked over the years? Anti-Christ, secret muslim, Kenyan, Marxist, Socialist, traitor, Nazi, dictator, wimp, weenie, apologist, gay prostitute, drug addict …

That’s a lot of identities to hide in one person. Obama is a mirror to their fears; a powerful black man on whom they project their darkest fantasies of victimhood and what they would do, were they to find themselves with unchecked power.

28 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 11:32:41am

re: #25 Kragar

To show off his mad gun balancing skillz.

29 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 11:32:45am

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Okay, go home Peters you’re beyond drunk. Where the fuck do they find these people? Does Fox have an interoffice contest to see who can come up with the most absurd and pathetic attack on Obama?

Welcome to the intersection of Racism, Belief-Based Thinking, and Epistemic Closure.

30 Ace-o-aces  Feb 25, 2015 11:33:06am

re: #20 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

The analyst is a reincarnation of Bozo the Clown.

Grrrrr, BOZO. I was in the audience once. Mom got tickets when she was still pregnant. I had a mock-up of the Grand-Prize-Game in my basement. I trained for MONTHS. I was ready. And the %$%#$’s didn’t pick me! Not that I’m carrying a grudge or anything….grumble, grumble…bozo…grumble

31 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:33:16am

re: #27 Khal Wimpo

Can someone do a compilation of all the things that Fox News dingbats has said Obama is, tracked over the years? Anti-Christ, secret muslim, Kenyan, Marxist, Socialist, traitor, Nazi, dictator, wimp, weenie, apologist, gay prostitute, drug addict …

That’s a lot of identities to hide in one person. Obama is a mirror to their fears; a powerful black man on whom they project their darkest fantasies of victimhood and what they would do, were they to find themselves with unchecked power.

I would but I want to have my life too. I agree with you though about him being a mirror of their fears and fantasies. They’re the ones that have the totalitarian wet dreams.

32 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 11:33:31am

In a follow-up poll, 75% of Republicans think that Obama’s Islamism can be flushed out with salt water and baking soda. //

33 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:34:01am

re: #32 De Kolta Chair

In a follow-up poll, 75% of Republicans think that Obama’s Islamism can be flushed out with salt water and baking soda. //

If it’s legitimate Islam, the body has a way of…….

34 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 11:35:07am

So, the Jeremiah Wright outrage thing was all a ruse…
Unless he too was a Muslim…
Itsa conspiracy!
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I just can’t.

35 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 11:35:18am

re: #32 De Kolta Chair

In a follow-up poll, 75% of Republicans think that Obama’s Islamism can be flushed out with salt water and baking soda. //

If they consume the soda, it will drop straight through their cloacas. They need another method.

36 Skip Intro  Feb 25, 2015 11:35:29am

Speakers as listed on the CPAC’s Speaker’s page:

Rep. Marsha Blackburn
Ambassador John R. Bolton
Brent Bozell III
Governor Sam Brownback
Ann Marie Buerkle
Jeb Bush
Dr. Ben Carson
The Hon. Ted Cruz
Carly Fiorina
Sean Hannity
Laura Ingraham
Gov. Bobby Jindal
Mark Levin
KT McFarland
Governor Sarah Palin
Sen. Rand Paul
Gov. Rick Perry
Senator Marco Rubio
Sen. Rick Santorum
Senator Tim Scott
Donald Trump
Gov. Scott Walker

The only ones missing are UpChuck and Son of Erick.

37 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 11:36:07am

re: #35 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

If they consume the soda, it will drop straight through their cloacas. They need another method.

Is this your way of suggesting they’re all bird-brains?

38 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 11:36:38am

re: #36 Skip Intro

Speakers as listed on the CPAC’s Speaker’s page:

Rep. Marsha Blackburn
Ambassador John R. Bolton
Brent Bozell III
Governor Sam Brownback
Ann Marie Buerkle
Jeb Bush
Dr. Ben Carson
The Hon. Ted Cruz
Carly Fiorina
Sean Hannity
Laura Ingraham
Gov. Bobby Jindal
Mark Levin
KT McFarland
Governor Sarah Palin
Sen. Rand Paul
Gov. Rick Perry
Senator Marco Rubio
Sen. Rick Santorum
Senator Tim Scott
Donald Trump
Gov. Scott Walker

The only ones missing are UpChuck and Son of Erick.

If Obama really were the dictator they all claim, this would be the perfect opportunity…

39 Lidane  Feb 25, 2015 11:37:15am

*facepalm*

40 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 11:37:47am

This is the time when the chickens come home to roost for the GOP. They figure the key to winning next year is to run against a man who can’t seek another term in office. Well, unfortunately that’s gonna mean navigating the minefield that their base has set up around the man, dealing with everything from “He’s a Muslim from Kenya!” to “He’s trying to tear down America!”

As for me? I’m gonna grab some popcorn and watch the fireworks.

41 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:38:11am

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

If Obama really were the dictator they all claim, this would be the perfect opportunity…

Especially with it happening in the capital city. And I’ll be damned if that’s not a list of a who’s who in everything wrong with modern conservatism.

42 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 11:38:28am

re: #36 Skip Intro

Here’s a compromise idea: let Bibi speak at CPAC instead.

43 Eventual Carrion  Feb 25, 2015 11:38:37am

re: #16 Kragar

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Now am I remembering this correctly? Pontius Pilate really didn’t want to crucify Jesus, he left that decision up to the mob to decide. And the hateful mob decided on crucifying him.

44 Skip Intro  Feb 25, 2015 11:38:40am

The Freak Show really gets going on Friday.

cpac.conservative.org

45 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 11:38:55am

re: #37 b_sharp

Is this your way of suggesting they’re all bird-brains?

It wasn’t, but now that you’re saying this…

46 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 25, 2015 11:39:00am

re: #42 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Here’s a compromise idea: let Bibi speak at CPAC instead.

Quoted as a damned good idea.

47 Ace-o-aces  Feb 25, 2015 11:39:33am

re: #27 Khal Wimpo

Can someone do a compilation of all the things that Fox News dingbats has said Obama is, tracked over the years? Anti-Christ, secret muslim, Kenyan, Marxist, Socialist, traitor, Nazi, dictator, wimp, weenie, apologist, gay prostitute, drug addict …

I love it when they list a bunch of adjectives in a row to describe Obama, and half those adjectives contradict the other half. It’s like they used so many descriptors in a row, they forgot which ones they started with when they get to the end.

Obama is a Muslim-Terrorist-Islamist-Fascist-Marxist-Gay-Womanizing-Sharia-Alcoholic-Arab-Warmongering-Violent-Wimp

48 EPR-radar  Feb 25, 2015 11:39:47am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Especially with it happening in the capital city. And I’ll be damned if that’s not a list of a who’s who in everything wrong with modern conservatism.

Modern US conservatism is a cancer on the nation. There’s really no way to avoid this conclusion.

49 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:40:06am

re: #47 Ace-o-aces

I love it when they list a bunch of adjectives in a row to describe Obama, and half those adjectives contradict the other half. It’s like they used so many descriptors in a row, they forgot which ones they started with when they get to the end.

Obama is a Muslim-Terrorist-Islamist-Fascist-Marxist-Gay-Womanizing-Sharia-Alcoholic-Arab-Warmongering-Violent-Wimp

It’s the old shit thrown against the wall.

50 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:40:27am

re: #48 EPR-radar

Modern US conservatism is a cancer on the nation. There’s really no way to avoid this conclusion.

A truly repulsive ideology.

51 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 11:40:42am

re: #47 Ace-o-aces

I love it when they list a bunch of adjectives in a row to describe Obama, and half those adjectives contradict the other half. It’s like they used so many descriptors in a row, they forgot which ones they started with when they get to the end.

Obama is a Muslim-Terrorist-Islamist-Fascist-Marxist-Gay-Womanizing-Sharia-Alcoholic-Arab-Warmongering-Violent-Wimp

Needs more Benghazi.

52 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 25, 2015 11:40:44am

Canada’s token wingnut rag, Canada Free Press, adds its mite to the cause via Free Republic:
Obama’s coming caliphate crusade in North America

The Fundamental Transformation of America is, in a sense, his cover.

Obama has this dream. No, not the somewhat sappy one allegedly ghost-written for him on the pages of Dreams from my Father by Billy Ayers, but one of far more frightening dimensions.

Obama’s dream is everyone else’s waking nightmare, the takeover of North America by caliphate-seeking jihadists.

Nobody’s ever going to believe it. People who can’t allow themselves to believe that Obama doesn’t love America would never be ready to believe that Obama was brought into power for the express purpose to hand the coveted North America kingdom over to the jihadists.

In the meantime US forces branched out from their daily strikes against ISIS long enough to hit Al Shabaab in Somalia a couple of times this week.

53 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:40:50am

Well I bet the male escorts are excited for CPAC though I imagine the attendees aren’t good tippers.

54 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:41:42am

re: #52 Shiplord Kirel

Canada’s token wingnut rag, Canada Free Press, adds its mite to the cause via Free Republic:
Obama’s coming caliphate crusade in North America

In the meantime US forces branched out from their daily strikes against ISIS long enough to hit Al Shabaab in Somalia a couple of times this week.

Is this the same presidential “fan-fiction” where James Garfield is revealed to be a lasagna loving overweight cat?

55 Romantic Heretic  Feb 25, 2015 11:41:44am

re: #6 piratedan

I recently pulled BioShock Infinite out storage to play again. Apparently this game didn’t do very well in sales. It was quite a disappointment to the publishers.

About twenty minutes into the game I figured out why this was.

Simply put there are a lot of Americans (Canadians and Europeans for that matter) who agree with the villain Zachary Hale Comstock. They agree blacks are lesser people. They agree that Christians should be running things. They agree that ‘the wicked’ should be harried and killed. They agree the working man should be grateful to be fed. Paid is too much to ask.

These people hated that they were the bad guys in the game and so they didn’t buy it.

Free market I guess, but it shows how badly political ideology screws things up these days.

56 Belafon  Feb 25, 2015 11:42:12am

Muslim means n*****, Christian means white. It’s that simple.

57 Khal Wimpo  Feb 25, 2015 11:42:35am

re: #49 HappyWarrior

It’s the old shit thrown against the wall.

It’s a word salad that makes no sense, but is perfectly tailored to appeal to sputtering old coots who don’t know anything other than they’re mad as hell at someone who is in charge.

Also: the meatloaf at the early-bird special has too much pepper and garlic in it.

58 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 25, 2015 11:42:43am

re: #53 HappyWarrior

Well I bet the male escorts are excited for CPAC though I imagine the attendees aren’t good tippers.

No but the opportunities for blackmail are unparalleled…

59 Snarknado!  Feb 25, 2015 11:42:45am

You know, if in six years Obama hasn’t managed to pollute our precious bodily fluids, we’ll likely survive the next two.

On another topic entirely, has anyone used hop2.com to book (international) travel? Can you suggest a reliable site to use?

60 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:43:06am

re: #55 Romantic Heretic

I recently pulled BioShock Infinite out storage to play again. Apparently this game didn’t do very well in sales. It was quite a disappointment to the publishers.

About twenty minutes into the game I figured out why this was.

Simply put there are a lot of Americans (Canadians and Europeans for that matter) who agree with the villain Zachary Hale Comstock. They agree blacks are lesser people. They agree that Christians should be running things. They agree that ‘the wicked’ should be harried and killed. They agree the working man should be grateful to be fed. Paid is too much to ask.

These people hated that they were the bad guys in the game and so they didn’t buy it.

Free market I guess, but it shows how badly political ideology screws things up these days.

My brother loves that game. He loves dystopias in his entertainment whether it’s film, lit, or video games.

61 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 11:44:48am

re: #55 Romantic Heretic

I recently pulled BioShock Infinite out storage to play again. Apparently this game didn’t do very well in sales. It was quite a disappointment to the publishers.

About twenty minutes into the game I figured out why this was.

Simply put there are a lot of Americans (Canadians and Europeans for that matter) who agree with the villain Zachary Hale Comstock. They agree blacks are lesser people. They agree that Christians should be running things. They agree that ‘the wicked’ should be harried and killed. They agree the working man should be grateful to be fed. Paid is too much to ask.

These people hated that they were the bad guys in the game and so they didn’t buy it.

Free market I guess, but it shows how badly political ideology screws things up these days.

I’m not so sure of that. After all, the first game sold like hotcakes and it was basically one long “Why you suck!” speech to the libertarian/”free market” crowd. It was like watching Atlas Shrugged being run through a paper shredder and then lit on fire.

62 Khal Wimpo  Feb 25, 2015 11:46:25am

re: #53 HappyWarrior

Well I bet the male escorts are excited for CPAC though I imagine the attendees aren’t good tippers.

I doubt they’re excited, as they’re going to have to deal with a lot of tears and shameful weeping after the guilt-plagued CPACers complete the deed, but their bank accounts will be fatter with hush money.

63 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 11:46:30am

Carly Fiorina is in no position to mock/claim anything about, well, anything. She helped guide HP into a disastrous merger with Compaq, watched corporate profits vaporize at an alarming rate, and couldn’t win a statewide election. That’s some record on which to snipe at Clinton.

Her business sense? Let’s go and buy PWC’s tech arm for $14 billion. Wall Street said, what are you huffing? Not long after, IBM bought the PWC tech group for $4 billion.

64 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 11:48:20am
Obama’s dream is everyone else’s waking nightmare, the takeover of North America by caliphate-seeking jihadists.

Nobody’s ever going to believe it. People who can’t allow themselves to believe that Obama doesn’t love America would never be ready to believe that Obama was brought into power for the express purpose to hand the coveted North America kingdom over to the jihadists.

Sure, there’s no evidence that this is true, which is one reason why nobody will ever believe it. Sure, he’s never given any indication that this is the case. Sure, he’s always spoken of his Christian faith. Sure, he’s not only bombing ISIS, but also has killed hundreds of AQ and other radical Islamist leaders and continues to do so.

So, yeah - there’s absolutely no reason to believe that he supports the takeover of North America by caliphate-seeking jihadists. But then there’s no evidence that he supports the confiscation of all privately owned firearms, and you just KNOW THAT’S true!!!

65 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 11:48:50am

re: #63 lawhawk

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Carly Fiorina is in no position to mock/claim anything about, well, anything. She helped guide HP into a disastrous merger with Compaq, watched corporate profits vaporize at an alarming rate, and couldn’t win a statewide election. That’s some record on which to snipe at Clinton.

Her business sense? Let’s go and buy PWC’s tech arm for $14 billion. Wall Street said, what are you huffing? Not long after, IBM bought the PWC tech group for $4 billion.

I heard something the other day about Carly either considering or preparing to announce her own presidential bid. I don’t take it seriously because A) she couldn’t even win a statewide election and B) there’s just too much there to kill her candidacy. She would be the female Mitt Romney.

66 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 11:49:54am

re: #63 lawhawk

Fiorina knows a lot about flying. She flew Hewlett Packard right into the ground.

67 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 11:50:00am

re: #62 Khal Wimpo

I doubt they’re excited, as they’re going to have to deal with a lot of tears and shameful weeping after the guilt-plagued CPACers complete the deed, but their bank accounts will be fatter with hush money.

According to wingnut logic, wouldn’t bankrupting four corporations be at least as bad as BENGHAZI!!!!!1!!!1!!!

68 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:50:12am

re: #63 lawhawk

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Carly Fiorina is in no position to mock/claim anything about, well, anything. She helped guide HP into a disastrous merger with Compaq, watched corporate profits vaporize at an alarming rate, and couldn’t win a statewide election. That’s some record on which to snipe at Clinton.

Her business sense? Let’s go and buy PWC’s tech arm for $14 billion. Wall Street said, what are you huffing? Not long after, IBM bought the PWC tech group for $4 billion.

Doesn’t she have demon sheep to put to the pasture?

69 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 11:50:36am

re: #65 Targetpractice

I heard something the other day about Carly either considering or preparing to announce her own presidential bid. I don’t take it seriously because A) she couldn’t even win a statewide election and B) there’s just too much there to kill her candidacy. She would be the female Mitt Romney.

Mitt Romney at least got elected to a statewide office.

70 Khal Wimpo  Feb 25, 2015 11:51:13am

re: #63 lawhawk

Carly Fiorina is in no position to mock/claim anything about, well, anything. She helped guide HP into a disastrous merger with Compaq, watched corporate profits vaporize at an alarming rate, and couldn’t win a statewide election. That’s some record on which to snipe at Clinton.

Her business sense? Let’s go and buy PWC’s tech arm for $14 billion. Wall Street said, what are you huffing? Not long after, IBM bought the PWC tech group for $4 billion.

Yeah, that whole “I guided a huge high-tech company!” that she shouts as her big claim to qualification, should be immediately followed by “…and ran it into the ground with deranged schemes that showed I have no ability to accurately judge reality.”

Still, she’s got all her ill-gotten gains, and to the GOP base, she has Silicon Valley cred, which to those dimwits, should mean that she can appeal to & peel off some of the core of brilliant engineers and developers who are building the 2016 Democratic tech backbone.

71 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 11:51:17am

re: #65 Targetpractice

I heard something the other day about Carly either considering or preparing to announce her own presidential bid. I don’t take it seriously because A) she couldn’t even win a statewide election and B) there’s just too much there to kill her candidacy. She would be the female Mitt Romney.

Except for the ‘successful’ businessperson part.

72 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 11:51:27am

YAYY!

73 jaunte  Feb 25, 2015 11:51:30am
“the deeply deranged base of Republican voters”

This is the ultimate product of our redistricting system. Uncompromising fanatics.

74 Skip Intro  Feb 25, 2015 11:52:28am

Condoleezza Rice appears to be planning to run for Barbara Boxer’s Senate seat in California. According to early polls, she has the lead.

If CA puts a former Bush cabinet member into the Senate, you can pretty much kiss what’s left of the Democratic party goodbye.

75 Khal Wimpo  Feb 25, 2015 11:53:12am

re: #65 Targetpractice

I heard something the other day about Carly either considering or preparing to announce her own presidential bid. I don’t take it seriously because A) she couldn’t even win a statewide election and B) there’s just too much there to kill her candidacy. She would be the female Mitt Romney.

Nah, she appeared on Bill Maher and tried to burnish her credentials as a smart person. Mainly, her contributions on the panel were stiff, unlikeable, and showed no ability for deep insight. But she’s got a media team that she’s throwing big bucks at, because she has the ego, and besides, if Palin could do it, hell, she’s got a shot…

76 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 25, 2015 11:53:42am

re: #72 The Mother Of All Pies

YAYY!

Feds Raid Texas Secessionist Meeting, Corral & Fingerprint Attendees, Take Their Cellphones

Well, whaddya’ know, some good news from Hoft!

77 Great White Snark  Feb 25, 2015 11:53:44am

I’m embarrassed as an American. I feel some real shame here. Do we not believe in religious freedom? I guess not really. Just lip service. Kinda hard to look a Muslim friend in the eye and not feel this.

Two things besides the emotion hit me. First and foremost, so what if he is Muslim? (screaming in frustration all caps withheld)

His skin color and name let this propaganda stick. If not for the overlay of anti Muslim bigotry none of this would have gotten any traction at all.

Imagine a similar accusation aimed at Clinton or Warren.

78 iossarian  Feb 25, 2015 11:53:45am

re: #74 Skip Intro

Condoleezza Rice appears to be planning to run for Barbara Boxer’s Senate seat in California. According to early polls, she has the lead.

If CA puts a former Bush cabinet member into the Senate, you can pretty much kiss what’s left of the Democratic party goodbye.

Smug war criminal. Also on NCAA football championship committee, because of course.

79 jamesfirecat  Feb 25, 2015 11:55:10am

re: #55 Romantic Heretic

I recently pulled BioShock Infinite out storage to play again. Apparently this game didn’t do very well in sales. It was quite a disappointment to the publishers.

About twenty minutes into the game I figured out why this was.

Simply put there are a lot of Americans (Canadians and Europeans for that matter) who agree with the villain Zachary Hale Comstock. They agree blacks are lesser people. They agree that Christians should be running things. They agree that ‘the wicked’ should be harried and killed. They agree the working man should be grateful to be fed. Paid is too much to ask.

These people hated that they were the bad guys in the game and so they didn’t buy it.

Free market I guess, but it shows how badly political ideology screws things up these days.

But weren’t there a bunch of people who agreed with everything that Andrew Ryan put forward in the first game?

I disliked parts of Infinite because the final fight decided it was a good time to throw in entirely new mechanics at the player, and have an ending that was intensely interesting and metaphorical… but could have used just a bit more letting us know how the characters actually ended up when all was said and done. I guess that I’m just a bit of a fool like that.

Also gameplay wise, Bioshock 2 got things right where your standard enemy goes down to a headshot from your fully upgraded standard pistol even on the hardest difficulty (leadhead splicer V rivet gun), if more than one headshot is required to kill the standard mook, you are not adding difficulty, you are adding busy work, especially with the new regenerating health.

That was honestly not a good idea all things considered, it feels like it breaks the entire game down into a series of hiding behind cover shoot shoot shoot shoot, out of shield, duck back behind it, Bioshock 2’s combat by comparison felt a bit more fluid….

80 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 11:56:34am

re: #72 The Mother Of All Pies

YAYY!

All the tyrannies patriots loaded off to Obama fema camp trailers concentration camps!

81 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 11:56:58am

re: #74 Skip Intro

Condoleezza Rice appears to be planning to run for Barbara Boxer’s Senate seat in California. According to early polls, she has the lead.

If CA puts a former Bush cabinet member into the Senate, you can pretty much kiss what’s left of the Democratic party goodbye.

Name rec plus perceived moderateness. She’s never had to run for any office before. I think she’ll be exposed.

82 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 11:57:44am

at West 57th Street and 11th Avenue in Manhattan:

83 Great White Snark  Feb 25, 2015 11:57:59am

re: #74 Skip Intro

Condoleezza Rice appears to be planning to run for Barbara Boxer’s Senate seat in California.

Says who?

No, Condoleezza Rice isn’t running for the Senate in 2016. Or probably anything else, ever.
washingtonpost.com

84 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 11:58:34am

Dudebro asshole now says his SEEKRIT CHRISTIAN RIGHT-WINGER Twitter list was just a harmless little prank.

85 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 11:58:40am

re: #52 Shiplord Kirel

Canada’s token wingnut rag, Canada Free Press, adds its mite to the cause via Free Republic:
Obama’s coming caliphate crusade in North America

In the meantime US forces branched out from their daily strikes against ISIS long enough to hit Al Shabaab in Somalia a couple of times this week.

If Obama hasn’t orchestrated the Islamic Caliphate in six years why are we supposed to believe he’ll get it done in the next two?

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86 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 11:58:46am

re: #46 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Quoted as a damned good idea.

Would certainly be an improvement over this.

87 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 11:58:52am

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

88 Romantic Heretic  Feb 25, 2015 11:59:14am

re: #23 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Is it, at long last, time for a second Constitutional Convention? I’ve become convinced that t may be time for this nation to voluntarily and amicably divide itself into those states that see some sort of reason and the crazy fuckers. Let them see how their ideas work out when they don’t have the sane states to carry them.

Best an amicable divorce now than pissed on fish in the future.

89 nines09  Feb 25, 2015 11:59:28am

Race to the bottom.

90 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 11:59:41am

re: #84 The Mother Of All Pies

Dudebro asshole now says his SEEKRIT CHRISTIAN RIGHT-WINGER Twitter list was just a harmless little prank.

yeah I got squirreled onto his list somehow.

Fine.

He can see all the kitteh pictures.

91 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 12:00:36pm

The “Other”—the greatest fear of some Americans, resulting in one of the most dysfunctional times in US politics, played by the opposition party “othering” a duly twice-elected President.

These are the dirtiest political moves I’ve ever witnessed in my lifetime.

92 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 12:00:57pm

re: #78 iossarian

Smug war criminal.

This. Her place is elsewhere.

93 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 12:02:07pm

re: #85 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

If Obama hasn’t orchestrated the Islamic Caliphate in six years why are we supposed to believe he’ll get it done in the next two?

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BECAUSE NOW HIS HANDS ARE UNTIED!!!1 //

94 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 12:02:29pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

That building is very close to where the Mrs. used to work. They were in the process of demolishing a car dealership to make way for condos. The building to the right is a new Sanitation Depot. Across the street are new condos.

95 EPR-radar  Feb 25, 2015 12:02:37pm

re: #23 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Is it, at long last, time for a second Constitutional Convention? I’ve become convinced that t may be time for this nation to voluntarily and amicably divide itself into those states that see some sort of reason and the crazy fuckers. Let them see how their ideas work out when they don’t have the sane states to carry them.

I can’t see this working out well in practice. The new Wingnutistan would promptly become a failed state on our borders with an irrational, fanatical and belligerent population and political leaders.

96 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 12:03:10pm

re: #84 The Mother Of All Pies

What a … Backpfeifengesicht.

97 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Feb 25, 2015 12:03:18pm

Cool headlines we never expected to see:

washingtonpost.com: “After 8 centuries, rats exonerated in spread of Black Death. Gerbils implicated.”

Mom never let me have gerbils when I was a kid. Now it turns out she was just looking out for my health.

98 Great White Snark  Feb 25, 2015 12:04:18pm

Condi Rice. Hmm. IMO Worth much more to the Dems than the GOP.
Why does her name keep coming up? To fire up the Dem base. $$$ in donations. Just creating an appearance she may run is worth millions in donations to Democratic candidates. “Anyone but Condi”

After all the GOP knows its base won’t vote for a black woman. Not even in California.

99 Romantic Heretic  Feb 25, 2015 12:05:04pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

I though it was a great story but an average game.

I really do enjoy the final cut scene. Made me think I was in a Michael Moorcock Eternal Champion story.

100 Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2015 12:05:30pm

re: #72 The Mother Of All Pies

WORSE THAN HITLER!! OUTRAGEOUSLY OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!!

101 Lidane  Feb 25, 2015 12:05:32pm

re: #72 The Mother Of All Pies

More info from the Houston Chronicle:

The raid was a response to legal summons sent by Republic of Texas members to a Kerr County judge and bank employee, demanding they appear in the Republic’s court at the Veterans and Foreign Wars building in Bryan the day the officers stormed in. Jarnecke’s group, the subject of a half-hour YouTube documentary, maintains a small working government, including official currency, congress and courts.

“You can’t just let people go around filing false documents to judges trying to make them appear in front of courts that aren’t even real courts,” said Kerr County sheriff Rusty Hierholzer, who led the operation.

He acknowledged he used a “show of force,” grouping officers from city, county state and federal law enforcement to serve a search warrant for suspicions of a misdemeanor crime. He said he had worries that some extremists in the group could become violent, citing a 1997 incident when 300 state troopers surrounded an armed Republic leader for a weeklong standoff.

102 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 12:06:55pm

re: #101 Lidane

More info from the Houston Chronicle:

Oh cmon they were just kidding around about the summonses how come libtards and gov officials can’t take a little joke? //////

103 Great White Snark  Feb 25, 2015 12:09:36pm

Amusing anecdotes

Jeb Bush’s Wedding Photos Were Shot and Ruined by His Younger Brother Marvin

Sorry should have sized that down…

104 jamesfirecat  Feb 25, 2015 12:09:42pm

re: #99 Romantic Heretic

I though it was a great story but an average game.

I really do enjoy the final cut scene. Made me think I was in a Michael Moorcock Eternal Champion story.

You hit the nail on the head there.

Honestly I wanted to see a bit more of the story, I wanted there to be another scene, where we got to see what Booker’s final fate was.

I wanted the story to act as allegory /comparison /commentary on the American Revolution itself, and when is it justified to take up arms agaisnt an oppressing power, and when is it not, how must the battle be waged to be considered justified?

That could have been interesting stuff to explore though somewhat fraught with the problematic aspect of a white guy showing up to take over from a black woman who wasn’t able to lead a proper revolution without f**king it up.

The gameplay was.. well, meh. I beat it on normal, played up to bank on hard and then just lost interest, the game felt like it was demanding too much of me when even my upgraded carbine needed 2 or 3 headshots to drop a mook.

Binary Domain had better gameplay than Bioshock Infinite. (I played through Binary Domain three times, one to beat it, once to beat it and get a better ending and then a third time on a higher difficulty setting)

Yeah I said it.

105 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 12:10:17pm

re: #94 lawhawk

106 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 12:11:06pm

Bibi at CPAC 2001: c-span.org

107 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 12:11:22pm

re: #94 lawhawk

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That building is very close to where the Mrs. used to work. They were in the process of demolishing a car dealership to make way for condos. The building to the right is a new Sanitation Depot. Across the street are new condos.

Condos owned by overseas gazillionaires who bought them as “investments” and never even live there.

108 Ace-o-aces  Feb 25, 2015 12:11:30pm

Glad somebody pointed this out.

109 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:11:36pm

re: #103 Great White Snark

Amusing anecdotes

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Jeb Bush’s Wedding Photos Were Shot and Ruined by His Younger Brother Marvin

Nice stache heh. Surprised they didn’t get a professional to do it.

110 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:12:37pm

re: #108 Ace-o-aces

Glad somebody pointed this out.

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I do like Kerry. Probably may have turned out for the best that he was SoS and not president but I have no regrets at all for campaigning for him for president 11 years ago.

111 aagcobb  Feb 25, 2015 12:12:45pm

re: #85 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

If Obama hasn’t orchestrated the Islamic Caliphate in six years why are we supposed to believe he’ll get it done in the next two?

///

That’s exactly what Obama wants you to believe!

112 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 12:13:13pm

re: #103 Great White Snark

Amusing anecdotes

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Jeb Bush’s Wedding Photos Were Shot and Ruined by His Younger Brother Marvin

How short is Columba? I am barely 5’ tall and in my wedding pics I manage to stand higher than my husband’s armpit.

113 Lidane  Feb 25, 2015 12:13:25pm
114 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 12:14:08pm

re: #103 Great White Snark

Amusing anecdotes

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Jeb Bush’s Wedding Photos Were Shot and Ruined by His Younger Brother Marvin

WTF is MARVIN BUSH going to run for POTUS in 2024?

115 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 12:14:21pm

re: #98 Great White Snark

Condi Rice. Hmm. IMO Worth much more to the Dems than the GOP.
Why does her name keep coming up? To fire up the Dem base. $$$ in donations. Just creating an appearance she may run is worth millions in donations to Democratic candidates. “Anyone but Condi”

After all the GOP knows its base won’t vote for a black woman. Not even in California.

That’s why the article you linked featured multiple Republican organizations pressuring her to run? Because they want to raise money for Democrats?

116 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:14:51pm

re: #112 The Mother Of All Pies

How short is Columba? I am barely 5’ tall and in my wedding pics I manage to stand higher than my husband’s armpit.

Not sure but Jeb is by far the tallest of the Bushes. He’s 6’4 I believe so Columba may look shorter than she is.

117 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 12:15:15pm
118 Romantic Heretic  Feb 25, 2015 12:15:29pm

re: #79 jamesfirecat

But weren’t there a bunch of people who agreed with everything that Andrew Ryan put forward in the first game?

Yes, but Randian libertarians despite their volume are actually quite small in number. They don’t represent a large enough portion of the public to seriously affect sales.

But, assuming the game buying market reflects American demographics, adherents of Comstock’s philosophy make up a very large portion of the market.

Also when the first BioShock was released there wasn’t a black man in the White House driving Comstock’s followers to foaming madness.

119 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:15:46pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just legalize it everywhere please.

120 Romantic Heretic  Feb 25, 2015 12:18:21pm

re: #95 EPR-radar

I can’t see this working out well in practice. The new Wingnutistan would promptly become a failed state on our borders with an irrational, fanatical and belligerent population and political leaders.

And considering the likely borders of Wingnutistan it would have nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them at intercontinental distances.

121 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 25, 2015 12:18:27pm

re: #77 Great White Snark

Imagine a similar accusation aimed at Clinton or Warren.

They’re just warming up…when Hillary steps up to the plate, it will be even worse, just with a more misogynistic shade to it.

122 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 12:19:40pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Not sure but Jeb is by far the tallest of the Bushes. He’s 6’4 I believe so Columba may look shorter than she is.

My daughter married a guy who is 6’6”

She is 5’6” and wore the highest heels she could find for her wedding pics.

123 Lidane  Feb 25, 2015 12:21:40pm
124 Ace-o-aces  Feb 25, 2015 12:22:36pm

re: #85 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

If Obama hasn’t orchestrated the Islamic Caliphate in six years why are we supposed to believe he’ll get it done in the next two?

Like most conspiracy theories, it requires the belief that the conspiracy is at the same time all-powerful and utterly incompetent.

125 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:23:22pm

re: #122 The Mother Of All Pies

My daughter married a guy who is 6’6”

She is 5’6” and wore the highest heels she could find for her wedding pics.

Damn. Are their kids particularly tall?

126 Great White Snark  Feb 25, 2015 12:23:27pm

re: #115 klys (maker of Silmarils)

IMO. In My Opinion. The moderate GOP is in denial about the base. Obviously my views and theirs differ greatly and often.

127 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:23:58pm

re: #123 Lidane

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You’ve lost that Medieval feeling.

128 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 12:25:24pm

re: #123 Lidane

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Next up, requiring women to be covered from head to toe outside the confines of the home, as seeing the female form might drive some men to rape them.

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129 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 25, 2015 12:25:31pm

re: #123 Lidane

Kansas Republicans want to criminalize teaching about sex, nude art, and ‘harmful’ books

It’s not about discussing why some people might subjectively find these things “harmful”, it is about criminalizing people who disagree with their views.

130 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:25:46pm

re: #126 Great White Snark

IMO. In My Opinion. The moderate GOP is in denial about the base. Obviously my views and theirs differ greatly and often.

I think what it is regarding Rice is on paper she’s an intriguing candidate, a woman of color, former Sec of State but I think she does know her limits which is why she’s turned down candidacies. I think she knows she’s more of an administrator or behind the scene types than politician. Madeline Albright never really had any electoral ambitions either.Obama’s two SoSs are actually pretty rare in that they’re both former senators that have had presidential ambitions. This is more closer to the older days when SoS was a stepping stone to the presidency but recent years SoS’s have been more less career bureaucrats/diplomats.

131 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 12:26:02pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Damn. Are their kids particularly tall?

They only have 1 kid who is a year old but she’s probably gonna be tall.

132 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2015 12:26:08pm

re: #123 Lidane

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IF WE IGNORE IT’S NOT THERE!!!

133 Ace-o-aces  Feb 25, 2015 12:26:42pm

re: #122 The Mother Of All Pies

My daughter married a guy who is 6’6”

She is 5’6” and wore the highest heels she could find for her wedding pics.

My wife is almost 5” taller than me, which looks fine in pictures. She was almost a foot taller than her bridesmaids though.

134 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 12:27:18pm

re: #123 Lidane

Christian State of Kansas and Upper Wingnuttia.

135 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2015 12:27:22pm

re: #123 Lidane

The measure was proposed after a middle school teacher in the Kansas City area displayed a sex education poster that listed specific sexual acts.

The HORROR!

136 ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2015 12:28:21pm

re: #36 Skip Intro

Speakers as listed on the CPAC’s Speaker’s page:

Rep. Marsha Blackburn
Ambassador John R. Bolton
Brent Bozell III
Governor Sam Brownback
Ann Marie Buerkle
Jeb Bush
Dr. Ben Carson
The Hon. Ted Cruz
Carly Fiorina
Sean Hannity
Laura Ingraham
Gov. Bobby Jindal
Mark Levin
KT McFarland
Governor Sarah Palin
Sen. Rand Paul
Gov. Rick Perry
Senator Marco Rubio
Sen. Rick Santorum
Senator Tim Scott
Donald Trump
Gov. Scott Walker

The only ones missing are UpChuck and Son of Erick.

Has Rush Limbaugh lost favor???

137 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 12:28:23pm

re: #126 Great White Snark

IMO. In My Opinion. The moderate GOP is in denial about the base. Obviously my views and theirs differ greatly and often.

Ok, but your comment came across as implying that there are folks out there who lean Democrat but are pushing to have Rice floated as a candidate in order to spur donations to Democrat candidates.

Which is getting a little conspiracy-theory-ish.

138 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:28:29pm

re: #131 The Mother Of All Pies

They only have 1 kid who is a year old but she’s probably gonna be tall.

My cousin who is around 5’5-5’6 I guess married a tall guy. I think he’s 6’4 and the short one in the family. Their kids are really tall for their age. They live over in England since he’s English and we’re already predicting that the little boy is going to be our first rugby player in the family. He was just in love with the souvenir rugby ball I bought in Dublin when I visited them this summer. His older sister is quite a runner in her own right but also has artistic skills which she got from both parents.

139 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2015 12:28:55pm
Senate Bill 56 would allow misdemeanor charges to be filed against teachers who present materials depicting “nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, or sadomasochistic abuse” that the “average adult person” believes “lacks serious literary, scientific, educational, artistic or political value.”

Oh I can’t wait for them to define THAT.

140 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:29:04pm

re: #136 ObserverArt

Has Rush Limbaugh lost favor???

Probably saving him for Saturday or Sunday.

141 Ace-o-aces  Feb 25, 2015 12:29:10pm

At this point, I think it would be easier just to list the times Billo didn’t lie.

142 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:29:34pm

re: #141 Ace-o-aces

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At this point, I think it would be easier just to list the times Billo didn’t lie.

“The sky was blue.”

143 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2015 12:29:38pm

re: #141 Ace-o-aces

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At this point, I think it would be easier just to list the times Billo didn’t lie.

That would be an awfully short list. Barely enough to fill a post-it note.

144 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 12:30:02pm

re: #141 Ace-o-aces

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At this point, I think it would be easier just to list the times Billo didn’t lie.

Hence why there’s no real chance of a mea culpa moment. If he starts apologizing for one lie, then he’s gonna have to apologize for the others, to the point that he basically admits he can’t be trusted not to lie at any given moment.

145 aagcobb  Feb 25, 2015 12:30:04pm

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh I can’t wait for them to define THAT.

They know it when they see it.

146 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 12:30:05pm

re: #122 The Mother Of All Pies

I have a friend from high school who is 4’10”.

Her husband is 6’2”.

147 aagcobb  Feb 25, 2015 12:30:39pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

“The sky was blue.”

You can’t explain that!

148 jamesfirecat  Feb 25, 2015 12:31:08pm

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh I can’t wait for them to define THAT.

When correctly viewed,
Everything is lewd!

—Tom Lehrer

149 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:31:35pm

re: #133 Ace-o-aces

My wife is almost 5” taller than me, which looks fine in pictures. She was almost a foot taller than her bridesmaids though.

Old school. Apparently and I don’t know for a fact since I’ve never seen photos of either of them but apparently my one great grandmother was a particularly tall woman while her husband was short around 5’4. My grandfather’s siblings were all short or average height but he grew to be 6’1. It’s looking like now I’m going to be the shortest of my siblings. My 13(soon to be 14) year old kid brother is 5’9 already and to put things in perspective, I’m 6 even being generous and I didn’t really approach that height until my freshman/sophomore year.

150 Great White Snark  Feb 25, 2015 12:31:45pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

“The sky was blue.”

Hah. Not so fast. Check the date with NOAA.

151 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:32:04pm

re: #150 Great White Snark

Hah. Not so fast. Check the date with NOAA.

Hahaha touche.

152 leftynyc  Feb 25, 2015 12:32:08pm

I don’t think we’ve had enough “Texas sure is weird” stories today so I’m adding this one:

lexiecannes.com

You read that right. A bill filed by a Texas state legislator would make building managers who “repeatedly allow” a trans person to use the bathroom of their gender expression subject to a state jail felony — up to 2 years in jail and a maximum $10,000 fine.

If you’re transgender and caught in the wrong bathroom, it’ll only be a misdemeanor — up to 1 year in jail and maximum $4,000 fine.

153 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Feb 25, 2015 12:32:18pm

re: #141 Ace-o-aces

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At this point, I think it would be easier just to list the times Billo didn’t lie.

Personally, I think O’Reilly lacks serious literary, scientific, educational, artistic or political value. Can we have him banned in Kansas? (Or am I not average enough?)

154 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:33:30pm

re: #152 leftynyc

I don’t think we’ve had enough “Texas sure is weird” stories today so I’m adding this one:

lexiecannes.com

So is the Republican concern for individual rights and liberties and the rights of business? Geez Republicans, do transpeople really bother you that badly that you want to make someone a felon for not being a judgmental dickbag?

155 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 12:33:59pm

re: #112 The Mother Of All Pies

Even with that hairdo, she doesn’t even come up to his shoulder.

156 Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2015 12:34:30pm

re: #141 Ace-o-aces

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At this point, I think it would be easier just to list the times Billo didn’t lie.

Bill O’Reilly: “So, there I was, right next to Teddy…you know, Teddy Roosevelt, and he was about to go up San Juan Hill, and he was right next to me, less than a foot and a half, and all of a sudden, we’re running straight up that hill, me and Teddy, side by side!”

157 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 12:34:32pm
158 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 12:34:52pm

You know, if anyone truly holds religious convictions down deep —and lives by them, they are probably not a bad person —regardless of the religion.

The message from (IIRC) any religion I’ve studied is the same:

Treat others as you wish to be treated and the reverses
Do not do to others what offends you.

159 Great White Snark  Feb 25, 2015 12:34:57pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

State dept. thinks they really run US policy anyway. Some SoS would see becoming a Senator a big step down. They have a point is a way, they oversee policies that are far more permanent than any executive.

160 Timothy Watson  Feb 25, 2015 12:35:35pm

re: #141 Ace-o-aces

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At this point, I think it would be easier just to list the times Billo didn’t lie.

WHY DID O’REALLY LIE ABOUT OUR VALIANT ALLIES IN EL SAVLIDATOR?!1?!?!

161 allegro  Feb 25, 2015 12:36:17pm

re: #152 leftynyc

I don’t think we’ve had enough “Texas sure is weird” stories today so I’m adding this one:

lexiecannes.com

If I’m in a public bathroom it’s because I really have to pee. It would never occur to me to wonder or care about anyone else in any other stalls. Priorities, yo.

What the hell is wrong with these fuck noodles?

162 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:36:18pm

re: #155 Justanotherhuman

Even with that hairdo, she doesn’t even come up to his shoulder.

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She does look particularly short seeing her stand next to other women. My grandmother was about 5 even though so while she’s short, she’s not unheard of short.

163 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:38:24pm

re: #159 Great White Snark

State dept. thinks they really run US policy anyway. Some SoS would see becoming a Senator a big step down. They have a point is a way, they oversee policies that are far more permanent than any executive.

Yeah. I think it’s a personality thing too though. I think the personality mindset for a would be SoS is different than a Senator since many SoS’s are typically lifelong diplomats who really don’t worry about what the electorate says or feels about them. Transitioning from academia and that to electoral politics would be a difficult stretch for Rice and I imagine that’s part of why doesn’t want it.

164 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 12:40:13pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

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So they make them sign NDAs on the way out, but feel free to talk shit about them to the press once they’re out the door.

Sounds like a great place to work, right?////

165 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:40:48pm

I am glad to see the Republican Party in Texas, a state with a high incarceration rate in a nation with a high incarceration rate wants to create felons out of letting transgender people use the bathroom of their choice. By the way, how the hell do they think they’re going to figure it out? Oh wait, this is the party that opposed letting gays in the military because they see every gay male as being a stereotype therefore every transgender person is just a guy with a long hair wig and makeup.

166 Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2015 12:41:12pm

So, in looking at the reaction to Net Neutrality, it seems the wingnut wackadoodles have all but convinced themselves that NN means that President Obama will personally be controlling their access to the intertubes, and he - and he alone - will decide what news they read, and the Breitbart and Free Republic will soon, no doubt, cease to exist, and that all PATRIOTIC ‘MURICANS will soon have no choice but to publish samizdat literature on ancient mimeograph machines, and that President Obama will make them get an “internet ID” using their names/addresses/SSN’s, which will make it easier for him to send them all to the FEMA camps where they will be converted to Islam and then forcibly gay-married or something like that.

Sounds legit. ///

*smh*

167 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 12:41:22pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I’m barely over 5’, and my husband was 5’7”, but he was barely a head taller; both my sons were at least his height. We’re all pretty short people. My grandson is maybe 5’4” and g-grandson is 5 and only 40” tall, since his grandmother is also around 5’ and his mother about the same height as his dad. Short bunch we are.

And I always preferred short men. : )

168 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 12:42:32pm

Astronomers Find Supermassive Black Hole 12 Billion Times Size of the Sun

nbcnews.com

“Astronomers say they have have discovered a black hole so big that it challenges the theory about how they grow. Scientists said this black hole was formed about 900 million years after the Big Bang. But with measurements indicating it is 12 billion times the size of the sun, the black hole challenges a widely accepted hypothesis of growth rates. “Based on previous research, this is the largest black hole found for that period of time,” Fuyan Bian, Research School of Astronomy and Astrophysics, Australian National University (ANU), told Reuters on Wednesday. “Current theory is for a limit to how fast a black hole can grow, but this black hole is too large for that theory.” The discovery was described in a study published Wednesday in Nature.” More

169 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 12:43:16pm

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

The HORROR!

I have a feeling that kids in Kansas already know more than the adults want them to know, from watching farm animals …

170 jaunte  Feb 25, 2015 12:43:25pm

re: #152 leftynyc

I don’t think we’ve had enough “Texas sure is weird” stories today so I’m adding this one:

lexiecannes.com

Debbie Riddle:

“…If only she would restrict her activities to resolutions honoring constituents, she could bumble in obscurity. But she won’t accept her own limitations, so her incompetence ends up doing real harm. Through some inexplicable miscalculation, she was named chair of the Appropriations Subcommittee on Criminal Justice.”
texasmonthly.com

171 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 12:43:35pm

re: #167 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, I’m barely over 5’, and my husband was 5’7”, but he was barely a head taller; both my sons were at least his height. We’re all pretty short people. My grandson is maybe 5’4” and g-grandson is 5 and only 40” tall, since his grandmother is also around 5’ and his mother about the same height as his dad. Short bunch we are.

And I always preferred short men. : )

Midgets haha. Just kidding. It’s actually interesting to look at height in families over time. As I’ve mentioned before, I’ve been doing a family tree and i’ve gotten access to my great grandfathers and uncles WWI draft registration forms and their heights are all described. Only one is described as tall.

172 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 12:43:42pm

re: #136 ObserverArt

Has Rush Limbaugh lost favor???

So glad I’m not going to be in attendance.

173 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 12:44:28pm

re: #123 Lidane

Criminalizing teaching about sex? Guess we can’t discuss Bible-approved sex then. Because that would violate said law.

No religious iconography involving nudes or partial nudes either.

/yeah, I know, 1st Amendment.

But if you’re going to start imposing religious views all over the place in state and local statutes, that’s in violation of the 1st Amendment, state constitutional protections, and would otherwise be unconstitutional.

174 EPR-radar  Feb 25, 2015 12:44:30pm

re: #158 FemNaziBitch

You know, if anyone truly holds religious convictions down deep —and lives by them, they are probably not a bad person —regardless of the religion.

The message from (IIRC) any religion I’ve studied is the same:

Treat others as you wish to be treated and the reverses
Do not do to others what offends you.

That would be true if the religious convictions in question are good, like the golden rule example you gave.

However, there are any number of religions whose teachings are not so good, such as Wingnut Christianity, and no amount of sincerity in holding these beliefs will make them any better.

175 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 12:44:53pm

re: #152 leftynyc

I don’t think we’ve had enough “Texas sure is weird” stories today so I’m adding this one:

lexiecannes.com

Is this the less government they keep promising us?

176 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 12:45:20pm

re: #166 Dr Lizardo

So, in looking at the reaction to Net Neutrality, it seems the wingnut wackadoodles have all but convinced themselves that NN means that President Obama will personally be controlling their access to the intertubes, and he - and he alone - will decide what news they read, and the Breitbart and Free Republic will soon, no doubt, cease to exist, and that all [PATRIOTIC ‘MURICANS[/wingnut] will soon have no choice but to publish samizdat literature on ancient mimeograph machines, and that President Obama will make them get an “internet ID” using their names/addresses/SSN’s, which will make it easier for him to send them all to the FEMA camps where they will be converted to Islam and then forcibly gay-married or something like that.

Sounds legit. ///

*smh*

You know the routine: The President supports it, so Republicans are required to oppose it. If nothing else, all the BS flying over net neutrality from wingnuts is ensuring job security for factcheckers.

177 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Feb 25, 2015 12:46:14pm

re: #166 Dr Lizardo

So, in looking at the reaction to Net Neutrality, it seems the wingnut wackadoodles have all but convinced themselves that NN means that President Obama will personally be controlling their access to the intertubes, and he - and he alone - will decide what news they read, and the Breitbart and Free Republic will soon, no doubt, cease to exist, and that all PATRIOTIC ‘MURICANS will soon have no choice but to publish samizdat literature on ancient mimeograph machines, and that President Obama will make them get an “internet ID” using their names/addresses/SSN’s, which will make it easier for him to send them all to the FEMA camps where they will be converted to Islam and then forcibly gay-married or something like that.

Sounds legit. ///

*smh*

I wonder if somehow they don’t think that “neutrality” refers to content and that this is somehow related to the old Fairness Doctrine. If you express a right-wing opinion then ObaMao and his henchpersons will force you to express a socialistic one in the next breath.

178 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 12:46:41pm

So, it’s not unexpected that Donald Trump may run for the WH again, but I’m surprised that no one has done the definitive documentary on him.

179 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 25, 2015 12:46:52pm

re: #43 Eventual Carrion

Now am I remembering this correctly? Pontius Pilate really didn’t want to crucify Jesus, he left that decision up to the mob to decide. And the hateful mob decided on crucifying him.

Which is the basis for the claim that the Jews killed Jesus.

180 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 12:47:37pm

re: #174 EPR-radar

That would be true if the religious convictions in question are good, like the golden rule example you gave.

However, there are any number of religions whose teachings are not so good, such as Wingnut Christianity, and no amount of sincerity in holding these beliefs will make them any better.

I was taught that the word of god is written on every human heart. I translate that as the “love” (my humanistic a/k/a for the “god”.

I know that I am a bit pollyanna when I think any truly held religious conviction encompasses that. Yet, it seems that the truly holy people from all flavors of belief end up there.

181 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 12:47:52pm

Mayor says District of Columbia to go ahead with marijuana legalization, despite objections from Congress - @Reuters
read more on reuters.com

Good on the Mayor. We know who those members of Congress are.

182 Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2015 12:48:08pm

re: #177 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

I wonder if somehow they don’t think that “neutrality” refers to content and that this is somehow related to the old Fairness Doctrine. If you express a right-wing opinion then ObaMao and his henchpersons will force you to express a socialistic one in the next breath.

That seems to be a significant part of it; they’re conflating Net Neutrality with the old Fairness Doctrine, and thinking the NN is going to be some type of Fairness Doctrine for the internet.

183 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 25, 2015 12:48:25pm

re: #59 Snarknado!

You know, if in six years Obama hasn’t managed to pollute our precious bodily fluids, we’ll likely survive the next two.

On another topic entirely, has anyone used hop2.com to book (international) travel? Can you suggest a reliable site to use?

You haven’t eaten enough ice cream yet.
/

184 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 12:48:54pm

re: #179 Feline Fearless Leader

Which is the basis for the claim that the Jews killed Jesus.

I think he was killed by a deliberatly orchestrated campaign of hate and intolerance by politicians.

:)

185 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 25, 2015 12:49:45pm

re: #63 lawhawk

Carly Fiorina is in no position to mock/claim anything about, well, anything. She helped guide HP into a disastrous merger with Compaq, watched corporate profits vaporize at an alarming rate, and couldn’t win a statewide election. That’s some record on which to snipe at Clinton.

Her business sense? Let’s go and buy PWC’s tech arm for $14 billion. Wall Street said, what are you huffing? Not long after, IBM bought the PWC tech group for $4 billion.

So she is good for America! (Based on the saw about whatever is good for IBM is good for America.)
;p

186 Single-handed sailor  Feb 25, 2015 12:50:14pm

re: #168 Justanotherhuman

Astronomers Find Supermassive Black Hole 12 Billion Times Size of the Sun

nbcnews.com

“Astronomers say they have have discovered a black hole so big that it challenges the theory about how they grow. Scientists said this black hole was formed about 900 million years after the Big Bang. But with measurements indicating it is 12 billion times the size of the sun, the black hole challenges a widely accepted hypothesis of growth rates. “Based on previous research, this is the largest black hole found for that period of time,” Fuyan Bian, Research School of Astronomy and Astrophysics, Australian National University (ANU), told Reuters on Wednesday. “Current theory is for a limit to how fast a black hole can grow, but this black hole is too large for that theory.” The discovery was described in a study published Wednesday in Nature.” More

I would assume they mean to say 12 billion times the mass of the sun and not size.

187 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 12:50:16pm

/watches Twitter explode in more ragegasms.

And this is why I don’t describe myself as progressive.

188 EPR-radar  Feb 25, 2015 12:50:34pm

re: #180 FemNaziBitch

I was taught that the word of god is written on every human heart. I translate that as the “love” (my humanistic a/k/a for the “god”.

I know that I am a bit pollyanna when I think any truly held religious conviction encompasses that. Yet, it seems that the truly holy people from all flavors of belief end up there.

The interesting point (to me) is that the standard for judging what is good can’t be something simple, like appeal to a text, or sincerity of belief.

189 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 12:51:18pm
190 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 12:51:52pm

re: #186 Single-handed sailor

Well, it’s a headline writer, so…

191 aagcobb  Feb 25, 2015 12:52:03pm

re: #189 Justanotherhuman

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Boehner huffs and puffs and caves on Friday.

192 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 12:53:43pm

re: #189 Justanotherhuman

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So the GOP makes a whole lot of noise about how they’re willing to let DHS shutdown…and then cave yet again at the 11th hour.

193 austin_blue  Feb 25, 2015 12:54:11pm

re: #191 aagcobb

Boehner huffs and puffs and caves on Friday.

Of course he will. It was a stupid strategy from the start.

194 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 12:56:53pm

re: #192 Targetpractice

The Rs are probably getting a lot of heat from constituents who are in fear of their lives who don’t realize that there is a lot more involved in anti-terrorism activities than someone individually guarding their ignorant asses.

195 ramex  Feb 25, 2015 12:57:51pm

re: #48 EPR-radar

Modern US conservatism is a cancer on the nation. There’s really no way to avoid this conclusion.

So it’s a fungus? Cool. I’ve got the baking soda and salt.

196 aagcobb  Feb 25, 2015 12:59:13pm

re: #194 Justanotherhuman

The Rs are probably getting a lot of heat from constituents who are in fear of their lives who don’t realize that there is a lot more involved in anti-terrorism activities than someone individually guarding their ignorant asses.

Problem of the GOP’s own making. They are the ones who terrify their constituents with stories of terrorist cells and ISIS camps in Mexico; how do you expect voters to react when you tell them Homeland Security is going to be shut down?

197 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2015 1:00:20pm

re: #181 Justanotherhuman

Mayor says District of Columbia to go ahead with marijuana legalization, despite objections from Congress - @Reuters
read more on reuters.com

Good on the Mayor. We know who those members of Congress are.

Just wait until some of those members of congress get caught…indulging.

198 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 1:00:48pm

re: #187 klys (maker of Silmarils)

/watches Twitter explode in more ragegasms.

And this is why I don’t describe myself as progressive.

It’s really a stunning display of a failure to communicate.
Watching it all unfold, some people appear to be almost willfully obtuse.

199 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 1:01:11pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Midgets haha. Just kidding. It’s actually interesting to look at height in families over time. As I’ve mentioned before, I’ve been doing a family tree and i’ve gotten access to my great grandfathers and uncles WWI draft registration forms and their heights are all described. Only one is described as tall.

Dad - 6’2”
Mom - 5’8”
Me - 5’11-3/4”
Bro 1 - 6’1”
Bro 2 - 5’11-1/4”
Bro 3 - 6’3”
Sis - 5’10”

My wife - 5’2”
My son - 5’9”
My daughter - 5’2”

My family is shrinking.

200 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 1:01:17pm

re: #188 EPR-radar

The interesting point (to me) is that the standard for judging what is good can’t be something simple, like appeal to a text, or sincerity of belief.

Context is everything in matters of both heaven and earth.

201 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 1:01:23pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s really a stunning display of a failure to communicate.
Watching it all unfold, some people appear to be almost willfully obtuse.

On all sides.

202 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 1:01:30pm

re: #194 Justanotherhuman

The Rs are probably getting a lot of heat from constituents who are in fear of their lives who don’t realize that there is a lot more involved in anti-terrorism activities than someone individually guarding their ignorant asses.

Erick, Son of Erick, is already spitting and yowling over McConnell’s “betrayal.” If John of Orange lets the bill go to a vote and passes it with mostly Dem votes, then the screeching will be downright biblical.

203 Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2015 1:01:33pm

Milwaukee Public Schools stands to lose $159 million under House bill

Milwaukee Public Schools could lose $159 million in federal funds for low-income students over six years if an education bill in the U.S. House of Representatives goes through, according to an analysis by the U.S. Department of Education.

House Republicans are attempting to rewrite the federal No Child Left Behind law, which the full House could vote on as soon as Friday.

The bill aims to reduce the federal footprint on K-12 education, but U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan this week denounced its funding provisions that could cut billions of federal dollars from districts serving high concentrations of black and Hispanic students.

204 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 1:02:01pm

When I checked Twitter this morning the first thing I saw was several attacks from Greenwald/Snowden fans, because I tweeted this to Josh Gerstein:

He replied:

And this was retweeted by former NSA guy Thomas Drake, who apparently has more than a few completely insane followers, imagine my surprise.

(However, I actually do think Drake got very badly treated by the NSA and the Justice Department, and has a much more valid claim to be a whistleblower than Edward Snowden. But don’t tell the Greenwald fans I said that - wouldn’t want to dissuade them from the conviction that I’m an Obama-bot apologist for the NSA and global surveillance.)

205 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 1:02:21pm

re: #199 b_sharp

Dad - 6’2”
Mom - 5’8”
Me - 5’11-3/4”
Bro 1 - 6’1”
Bro 2 - 5’11-1/4”
Bro 3 - 6’3”
Sis - 5’10”

My wife - 5’2”
My son - 5’9”
My daughter - 5’2”

My family is shrinking.

it’s your damn wife hahaha.

206 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 1:02:46pm

re: #195 ramex

So it’s a fungus? Cool. I’ve got the baking soda and salt.

Our own bodies make substances quite a bit more toxic than baking soda and salt. I don’t think baking soda and salt survive the disgestive process.

207 Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2015 1:02:56pm

Senate official threatens to boot public after right to work disruptions

Senate Republicans kicked off what is likely to be a long debate Wednesday on so-called right-to-work legislation — an exchange that was immediately disrupted by protesters, prompting a threat from a GOP leader to boot all members of the public from the Senate.

“We have two strikes here,” Senate President Mary Lazich (R-New Berlin) said 10 minutes into the session, after two people decried the legislation from the galleries overlooking the Senate chamber.

“If there’s another interruption, I will be very tempted to clear the gallery,” Lazich said. “This is a warning, and a last warning.”

The session started at 1:35 p.m. with Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) explaining he was advancing the measure to provide “true workplace freedom.” Almost immediately, ironworker Randy Bryce shouted him down from above.

“This is an attack on democracy,” Bryce said as he was led away by state troopers.

208 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2015 1:03:03pm

My money is still on Boehner and Co. shutting it down.

209 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 1:03:07pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

it’s your damn wife hahaha.

Damned genetics.

210 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 1:03:10pm

re: #199 b_sharp

Hey, we take up less space and use fewer resources. : )

211 EPR-radar  Feb 25, 2015 1:04:01pm

re: #202 Targetpractice

Erick, Son of Erick, is already spitting and yowling over McConnell’s “betrayal.” If John of Orange lets the bill go to a vote and passes it with mostly Dem votes, then the screeching will be downright biblical.

Speaking of RedState, I’m always amused when I see its blurb “for Right of Center activists”.

This is true, but extremely misleading. The average RedStater would need the assistance of the Hubble telescope to see the political center from where they are.

212 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2015 1:04:30pm

I come from a short family. Grandparents on up none of us are over 6’, the only one who comes close is my brother and he’s about 5’10. I’m 5’2 and my wife is 5’8. We may get looks but I don’t care, we love each other and we’re happy with who we are.

213 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 1:04:54pm

re: #210 Justanotherhuman

Hey, we take up less space and use fewer resources. : )

All I’m good for is reaching stuff from the upper cupboard.

If V wants to hide something from me all she has to do is put it on the top shelf in the fridge.

214 aagcobb  Feb 25, 2015 1:05:35pm

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

I come from a short family. Grandparents on up none of us are over 6’, the only one who comes close is my brother and he’s about 5’10. I’m 5’2 and my wife is 5’8. We may get looks but I don’t care, we love each other and we’re happy with who we are.

Good for you!

215 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Feb 25, 2015 1:05:55pm

re: #206 FemNaziBitch

Our own bodies make substances quite a bit more toxic than baking soda and salt. I don’t think baking soda and salt survive the disgestive process.

The original suggestion was to administer it intravenously through a PICC line: ralstonreports.com

216 ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2015 1:06:05pm

McConnell and Boehner have been in politics long enough now to know how it works. So, how the hell do they keep painting themselves in the corner? And what good does it do for them to say Obama put them in that position?

Those two are by far the most bumbling house and senate duo in a long time if not in history of American politics. They have the power now and yet can’t do a thing with it. But they still kiss the butts of those that made their jobs impossible, FOX News and the Tea Party.

Everything wrong in two people…a study of crippled American politics and career self-neutering. Hand me that dull knife, I’m going to remove these myself.

Do you hear that? It’s a low whimper. Yeah…Boehner crying, again. Now he has nothing left to cut off.

217 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 25, 2015 1:06:35pm

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh I can’t wait for them to define THAT.

That boils down to whatever the judge decides it is. I’ve seen that sort of language before.

218 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 1:06:47pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s really a stunning display of a failure to communicate.
Watching it all unfold, some people appear to be almost willfully obtuse.

What’s this in reference to?

219 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 1:06:59pm

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

I come from a short family. Grandparents on up none of us are over 6’, the only one who comes close is my brother and he’s about 5’10. I’m 5’2 and my wife is 5’8. We may get looks but I don’t care, we love each other and we’re happy with who we are.

We’re all the same height lying down - more or less.

220 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 1:07:42pm

re: #218 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

What’s this in reference to?

Patricia Arquette’s backstage comments after her Oscar acceptance speech.

221 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 1:08:09pm

“Obama was free to reveal any surveillance program?” Seriously, he said that. And this guy is supposed to be a political pundit.

222 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2015 1:08:12pm

re: #216 ObserverArt

McConnell and Boehner have been in politics long enough now to know how it works. So, how the hell do they keep painting themselves in the corner?

Because they need to appease the base. The GOP base has become EXTREMELY conservative and hardcore. In the past they wouldn’t have dared shut down the government but in 2013 they were CLAMORING for that to happen and they got it.

The hyperpartisanship and their insane desire to utterly destroy Barack Obama has clouded their judgment indefinitely…and we’re all the worse off for it.

223 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2015 1:09:02pm

re: #221 Charles Johnson

“Obama was free to reveal any surveillance program?” Seriously, he said that. And this guy is supposed to be a political pundit.

I now automatically assume someone who calls themselves a pundit has no clue what they are talking about.

224 EPR-radar  Feb 25, 2015 1:09:17pm

re: #202 Targetpractice

Erick, Son of Erick, is already spitting and yowling over McConnell’s “betrayal.” If John of Orange lets the bill go to a vote and passes it with mostly Dem votes, then the screeching will be downright biblical.

One interesting thing about this bit of whining by EE is how thoroughly homophobic it is.

redstate.com

Normal people who complain about their political leaders being spineless jellyfish don’t need to do this, but apparently sex-obsessed RWNJs cannot avoid doing so.

225 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 1:09:33pm

Another dive into the unfiltered id that is Erick, Son of Erick’s twitter feed:

226 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 1:10:11pm

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

I now automatically assume someone who calls themselves a pundit has no clue what they are talking about.

Perhaps they mean puny.

227 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 1:10:30pm

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

Patricia Arquette’s backstage comments after her Oscar acceptance speech.

Ah, yes. Meh.

228 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 1:10:32pm

re: #216 ObserverArt

McConnell and Boehner have been in politics long enough now to know how it works. So, how the hell do they keep painting themselves in the corner? And what good does it do for them to say Obama put them in that position?

Those two are by far the most bumbling house and senate duo in a long time if not in history of American politics. They have the power now and yet can’t do a thing with it. But they still kiss the butts of those that made their jobs impossible, FOX News and the Tea Party.

Everything wrong in two people…a study of crippled American politics and career self-neutering. Hand me that dull knife, I’m going to remove these myself.

Do hear that? It’s a low whimper. Yeah…Boehner crying, again. Now he has nothing left to cut off.

Worse even than this, they apparently aren’t even talking to one another. The shutdown of the DHS looms, and the leaders of the two houses of Congress are not only not working on it together, they’re not even talking!

229 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 25, 2015 1:10:47pm

re: #168 Justanotherhuman

Astronomers Find Supermassive Black Hole 12 Billion Times Size of the Sun

nbcnews.com

“Astronomers say they have have discovered a black hole so big that it challenges the theory about how they grow. Scientists said this black hole was formed about 900 million years after the Big Bang. But with measurements indicating it is 12 billion times the size of the sun, the black hole challenges a widely accepted hypothesis of growth rates. “Based on previous research, this is the largest black hole found for that period of time,” Fuyan Bian, Research School of Astronomy and Astrophysics, Australian National University (ANU), told Reuters on Wednesday. “Current theory is for a limit to how fast a black hole can grow, but this black hole is too large for that theory.” The discovery was described in a study published Wednesday in Nature.” More

The last remains of a civilization lost to a derp implosion.

230 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 1:11:17pm

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

I now automatically assume someone who calls themselves a pundit has no clue what they are talking about.

Every time I hear ‘pundit’ I see a guy riding in a howdah.

231 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 1:11:20pm

re: #215 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

The original suggestion was to administer it intravenously through a PICC line: ralstonreports.com

okkkkkaaaayyyyy

232 Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2015 1:11:48pm

re: #225 Targetpractice

Another dive into the unfiltered id that is Erick, Son of Erick’s twitter feed:

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So………..I’m thinking Erick, Son of Erick has something he might like to get off his chest.

And I’m thinking it involves leather, chains, a cat-o’-nine-tails and a rakish fellow who must always be referred to as “Master”.

233 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 1:11:53pm

re: #225 Targetpractice

Another dive into the unfiltered id that is Erick, Son of Erick’s twitter feed:

Erick, son of Erick, age 12

234 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 1:12:38pm

re: #225 Targetpractice

Another dive into the unfiltered id that is Erick, Son of Erick’s twitter feed:

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And he gets sexist with it too. It’s okay, Erick, have a bottle.

235 No Country For Old Haters  Feb 25, 2015 1:12:56pm
236 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 1:13:00pm

re: #233 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Erick, son of Erick, age 12

Ha, I coached boys that age in basketball a couple years ago. They’re more mature.

237 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 1:13:27pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

And he gets sexist with it too. It’s okay, Erick, have a bottle.

Here’s my surprise face.

238 Kryptik  Feb 25, 2015 1:13:57pm

Not sure if this got noted in a previous thread or not, but since it’s poll related, a YouGov poll took on the whole Giulliani shit as well, and found out a few key things (cross tabs included in the link):

1) Overall, 47% of polled believes Obama loves America. That’s compared to 35% sure that he doesn’t love America, and 17% that isn’t sure. By comparison, Giulliani gets 58% that believes he loves America and 33% unsure.

2) 39% believes Obama is “less patriotic” than most others in public life, compared to 33% believing that he’s “as patriotic”, 12% that he’s more, and 16% unsure. By comparison, Giullani gets 41% as patriotic, 19% for “more” and only 8% as “less”

The shitstain’s othering, atop of all the othering thrown Obama’s way, is WORKING, and working strong. We literally have a third of America that believes Obama honestly hates America, and almost a fifth that isn’t sure.

Just…fuck all. These fuckers just manage to win the message wars every single fucking time, by sheer volume alone, and it fucking works, every single fucking time.

239 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Feb 25, 2015 1:14:11pm

re: #231 FemNaziBitch

okkkkkaaaayyyyy

I didn’t say it was a good idea.

240 ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2015 1:14:45pm

re: #228 Blind Frog Belly White

Worse even than this, they apparently aren’t even talking to one another. The shutdown of the DHS looms, and the leaders of the two houses of Congress are not only not working on it together, they’re not even talking!

Run out of fingers to point at each other have they?

The two clowns deserve each other. May the rest of their days be miserable. That is the karma they created for themselves and their party.

241 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 1:15:06pm

re: #216 ObserverArt

Because they go into political fights with the party they have, not the party they need. /

In all seriousness, it’s because the GOP rank and file feels the need to get into political fights because of the party they have, which is a party that needs to destroy government in order to “save” the nation. Destroy Obamacare, even if it means millions lose health insurance. Undermine the president on foreign policy because he is from the opposite party (and doesn’t look like them). And take a position against any expansion of equal rights and equal protection, because that’s what the Bible says.

242 jaunte  Feb 25, 2015 1:15:30pm

re: #225 Targetpractice

Very appropriate first and middle initials, has Erick.

243 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 1:15:44pm
244 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 1:16:00pm

re: #238 Kryptik

Not sure if this got noted in a previous thread or not, but since it’s poll related, a YouGov poll took on the whole Giulliani shit as well, and found out a few key things (cross tabs included in the link):

1) Overall, 47% of polled believes Obama loves America. That’s compared to 35% sure that he doesn’t love America, and 17% that isn’t sure. By comparison, Giulliani gets 58% that believes he loves America and 33% unsure.

2) 39% believes Obama is “less patriotic” than most others in public life, compared to 33% believing that he’s “as patriotic”, 12% that he’s more, and 16% unsure. By comparison, Giullani gets 41% as patriotic, 19% for “more” and only 8% as “less”

The shitstain’s othering, atop of all the othering thrown Obama’s way, is WORKING, and working strong. We literally have a third of America that believes Obama honestly hates America, and almost a fifth that isn’t sure.

Just…fuck all. These fuckers just manage to win the message wars every single fucking time, by sheer volume alone, and it fucking works, every single fucking time.

So much of this country is hopeless politically. I hate saying it but sheesh.

245 ramex  Feb 25, 2015 1:16:50pm

re: #206 FemNaziBitch

Our own bodies make substances quite a bit more toxic than baking soda and salt. I don’t think baking soda and salt survive the disgestive process.

So you’re saying the GOP is a rectal cancer? I’m just stepping out quick to pick up an enema kit at my local Wal-Mart.

246 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 1:17:01pm

The First African American Senator Was Sworn in 145 Years Ago Today

Hiram R. Revels made history when, amid the tensions of Reconstruction, he became a senator from Mississippi

247 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 1:17:58pm
248 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 1:18:51pm

re: #245 ramex

So you’re saying the GOP is a rectal cancer? I’m just stepping out quick to pick up an enema kit at my local Wal-Mart.

Yeah, I think you can just stick to eating the proper amount of whole grains.

250 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 1:21:20pm

I know it’s still a bit early, but in light of the wingnuts losing their minds over the first cave of the new Republican Congress, I’ll pour me glass:

251 aagcobb  Feb 25, 2015 1:23:16pm

The Supreme Court will soon be deciding if the ACA only allows the government to provide health insurance subsidies to people who purchase policies through exchanges established by a state, but a decision by the Court today shows it considers terms within the context of the statute rather than simply taking them literally. Thus today the Court determined that fish are not “tangible objects”.

252 EPR-radar  Feb 25, 2015 1:24:15pm

re: #238 Kryptik

Not sure if this got noted in a previous thread or not, but since it’s poll related, a YouGov poll took on the whole Giulliani shit as well, and found out a few key things (cross tabs included in the link):

1) Overall, 47% of polled believes Obama loves America. That’s compared to 35% sure that he doesn’t love America, and 17% that isn’t sure. By comparison, Giulliani gets 58% that believes he loves America and 33% unsure.

2) 39% believes Obama is “less patriotic” than most others in public life, compared to 33% believing that he’s “as patriotic”, 12% that he’s more, and 16% unsure. By comparison, Giullani gets 41% as patriotic, 19% for “more” and only 8% as “less”

The shitstain’s othering, atop of all the othering thrown Obama’s way, is WORKING, and working strong. We literally have a third of America that believes Obama honestly hates America, and almost a fifth that isn’t sure.

Just…fuck all. These fuckers just manage to win the message wars every single fucking time, by sheer volume alone, and it fucking works, every single fucking time.

All very true and discouraging. It is hard to see how the US will recover from the present situation where pretty much half the electorate prefers their own propaganda to reality.

253 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 1:24:44pm
254 FemNaziBitch  Feb 25, 2015 1:25:02pm

bbl

255 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 1:26:11pm

re: #206 FemNaziBitch

Our own bodies make substances quite a bit more toxic than baking soda and salt. I don’t think baking soda and salt survive the disgestive process.

‘Baking soda and salt’ is what’s in buffered isotonic saline. So, they’re just diluting your blood. The only place it will ‘wash out’ is your kidneys, which generally retain in the filtered blood any molecule over about 50,000 Daltons molecular weight, let alone any actual enormously larger cell-sized objects.

This is, of course, ignoring the fact that cancer cells are not only not fungus, they’re actually still you.

256 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 1:26:26pm

As a Muslim, I can’t tell you guys how delightful it is to have people consider the term “Muslim” an epithet, and labeling someone as such a slur.

//

257 Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2015 1:27:15pm

Why are Wisconsin republicans pushing right to work in an emergency session? For crying out loud they have control of the entire state government. Why can’t these sleazeballs go through the normal process to pass this shit?

258 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 1:28:14pm

re: #256 CuriousLurker

As a Muslim, I can’t tell you guys how delightful it is to have people consider the term “Muslim” an epithet, and labeling someone as such a slur.

//

We try to not do that.

259 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 1:28:34pm
260 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 1:28:51pm
261 aagcobb  Feb 25, 2015 1:29:44pm

re: #260 lawhawk

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John Boehner is the one who should be asked that question.

262 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 1:30:05pm

re: #260 lawhawk

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And right on cue, the pundits start trying to spin this as the President’s fault for not going along with Boehner’s partisan stunt.

263 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 1:30:18pm

re: #255 Blind Frog Belly White

skreened.com

264 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 1:30:23pm

WUT???!!???

265 Kryptik  Feb 25, 2015 1:31:36pm

re: #260 lawhawk

Someone should ask Bibi instead “in what what does it promote MidEast stability to drive a wedge bt American Jews and their President.” Because guess what, that seems to be the intent behind the GOP and Bibi’s shitshow, as well as Bibi’s rather recent tweets.

266 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 1:31:47pm

re: #258 b_sharp

I wasn’t talking about here, but it’s something I have to live with every day, and I’m 99.9% sure that the anti-Muslim rhetoric is only going to get worse the closer we get to 2016 (unless the GOP finds someone or something else to be “It”).

267 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 1:32:21pm

yah i heard this from some inlaws they think obama is a very nice man who believes he is a christian but unconsciously he really thinks like a muslim

it’s unconscious see

268 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 1:33:16pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

WMC-TV link

269 calochortus  Feb 25, 2015 1:33:44pm

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

I come from a short family. Grandparents on up none of us are over 6’, the only one who comes close is my brother and he’s about 5’10. I’m 5’2 and my wife is 5’8. We may get looks but I don’t care, we love each other and we’re happy with who we are.

Good for you. I’m a couple inches taller than my husband. Nearly 38 years on, it has never been a problem.

270 TedStriker  Feb 25, 2015 1:34:36pm

re: #55 Romantic Heretic

I recently pulled BioShock Infinite out storage to play again. Apparently this game didn’t do very well in sales. It was quite a disappointment to the publishers.

About twenty minutes into the game I figured out why this was.

Simply put there are a lot of Americans (Canadians and Europeans for that matter) who agree with the villain Zachary Hale Comstock. They agree blacks are lesser people. They agree that Christians should be running things. They agree that ‘the wicked’ should be harried and killed. They agree the working man should be grateful to be fed. Paid is too much to ask.

These people hated that they were the bad guys in the game and so they didn’t buy it.

Free market I guess, but it shows how badly political ideology screws things up these days.

DIdn’t stop some RWNJs from trying to appropriate imagery from the game to use as their own propaganda, did it?

271 Kryptik  Feb 25, 2015 1:35:12pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

As seen with the GOP since 9/11, they don’t trade out one ‘other’ for another, they collect them. Unless you’re a White Heterosexual Christian Wealthy Christian Male Conservative, you’re not really American. And I’m sure even in that narrow group they can find ways to ‘other’ people.

272 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Feb 25, 2015 1:35:16pm

re: #245 ramex

So you’re saying the GOP is a rectal cancer? I’m just stepping out quick to pick up an enema kit at my local Wal-Mart.

Or uterine, vaginal, whatever.

(startribune.com)

273 blueraven  Feb 25, 2015 1:35:35pm

re: #74 Skip Intro

Condoleezza Rice appears to be planning to run for Barbara Boxer’s Senate seat in California. According to early polls, she has the lead.

If CA puts a former Bush cabinet member into the Senate, you can pretty much kiss what’s left of the Democratic party goodbye.

I think Rice running is a pipe dream for Republicans, at least at this point.
Looking for any evidence that she has expressed any interest…finding none. Only exists in the fevered wet dreams of the usual RW websites.

I actually think she is a bit too sane to run for anything right now with her party being so fucking batshit crazy and all. Also, I just don’t see her tied to a six year term in DC. Boring, I would think, to go from SoS to Senator. As much as the Republican party might wish for her to run, she seems to be quite happy in her private life.

274 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 1:39:14pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

I wasn’t talking about here, but it’s something I have to live with every day, and I’m 99.9% sure that the anti-Muslim rhetoric is only going to get worse the closer we get to 2016 (unless the GOP finds someone or something else to be “It”).

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I hear it with atheism too, but that’s hardly the level of crap you have to go through every day.

I try to call the anti-muslim bs going on in the atheist community, but they’re a stubborn bunch of assholes.

I don’t envy you.

275 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 1:41:34pm
See, look, I’m being productive.
276 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 25, 2015 1:42:07pm

Even if he was anything other than Christian, so the fuck what!

277 No Country For Old Haters  Feb 25, 2015 1:42:34pm

re: #274 b_sharp

I hear it with atheism too, but that’s hardly the level of crap you have to go through every day.

I’m pretty sure it’s exactly the same right-wing dumbasses that believe that “Muslim,” “Atheist”, and “Liberal” as insults. I try not to worry about what stupid people think and say, unless they’re in positions of power.

278 EPR-radar  Feb 25, 2015 1:42:53pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

I wasn’t talking about here, but it’s something I have to live with every day, and I’m 99.9% sure that the anti-Muslim rhetoric is only going to get worse the closer we get to 2016 (unless the GOP finds someone or something else to be “It”).

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The GOP is doing all that it can to get most Americans to accept scapegoating as a solution to political problems. This is the single most evil thing the GOP is up to (despite the innumerable other outrages that characterize US conservatism) because acceptance of political scapegoating leads inevitably to mass murder.

279 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 1:42:54pm

This is how far the ignorant Rs will stoop to try to gut anything Obama.

State Lawmaker Says Common Core Contributed To Children’s Deaths

thinkprogress.org

“On Tuesday, South Dakota state Rep. Elizabeth May (R) claimed the Common Core State Standards were partly responsible for the death of eight children on a South Dakota Native American reservation. (Her remarks start at 21:10.)

(snip)

“May did not make clear how the Common Core contributed to the death of these eight students, but her comments adds to the a series of confusing statements from Republicans on this issue, including assertions that the Common Core will turn students gay, the standards contain anti-American propaganda history, and they were informed by the Muslim Brotherhood.” More

280 leftynyc  Feb 25, 2015 1:43:14pm

re: #269 calochortus

Good for you. I’m a couple inches taller than my husband. Nearly 38 years on, it has never been a problem.

Mom and dad were the same height (5’8”) and mom always wore heels. Dad couldn’t have cared less. They were married for 53 years.

281 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 1:44:10pm

re: #280 leftynyc

Mom and dad were the same height (5’8”) and mom always wore heels. Dad couldn’t have cared less. They were married for 53 years.

I don’t wear heels.

He can just deal with bending over farther.

282 Great White Snark  Feb 25, 2015 1:46:09pm

re: #137 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Ok, but your comment came across as implying that there are folks out there who lean Democrat but are pushing to have Rice floated as a candidate in order to spur donations to Democrat candidates.

Which is getting a little conspiracy-theory-ish.

Conspiracy? Not at all. Hardball / moneyball politics would be my descriptor. I am pretty sure there are Dems (particularly national PACS) out there that would love to see Rice run as an easy take down. Or as a huge foil to gain donations. After all say “war criminal” and “candidate” in the same pitch for donations and you got a winning pitch.

In the same vein, there are surely republicans that would rather see Hilary run than Elizabeth Warren for similar reasons. Get donation $$$ baby!

283 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 25, 2015 1:47:01pm

re: #275 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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I wanna see the list for making a Silmaril.
:D

284 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 1:47:08pm

Hoover AL (Birmingham suburb) school closing notice.

al.com

Youtube Video

285 leftynyc  Feb 25, 2015 1:47:15pm

re: #281 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t wear heels.

He can just deal with bending over farther.

Mom is in her mid-70s. Insists they didn’t make shoes without heels (except for sneakers) when she was growing up. I’m also pretty sure she’s no longer 5’8”. Meanwhile my twin sister is 5’2’ and I’m just a smidge under 5’ nothing.

286 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 1:48:24pm

re: #285 leftynyc

Mom is in her mid-70s. Insists they didn’t make shoes without heels (except for sneakers) when she was growing up. I’m also pretty sure she’s no longer 5’8”. Meanwhile my twin sister is 5’2’ and I’m just a smidge under 5’ nothing.

My sisters are 5’9” and 5’7”.

I am 5’4” if I wear flip flops.

Sigh.

287 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 1:49:19pm

Here he goes again.

288 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 1:49:49pm
289 calochortus  Feb 25, 2015 1:49:58pm

re: #275 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I should be making out a shopping list for a trip to Home Depot. Your list looks like more fun.

290 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 1:50:06pm
291 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 1:50:10pm

re: #279 Justanotherhuman

This is how far the ignorant Rs will stoop to try to gut anything Obama.

State Lawmaker Says Common Core Contributed To Children’s Deaths

thinkprogress.org

“On Tuesday, South Dakota state Rep. Elizabeth May (R) claimed the Common Core State Standards were partly responsible for the death of eight children on a South Dakota Native American reservation. (Her remarks start at 21:10.)

(snip)

“May did not make clear how the Common Core contributed to the death of these eight students, but her comments adds to the a series of confusing statements from Republicans on this issue, including assertions that the Common Core will turn students gay, the standards contain anti-American propaganda history, and they were informed by the Muslim Brotherhood.” More

OFFS

292 Timothy Watson  Feb 25, 2015 1:50:46pm

re: #284 Decatur Deb

Hoover AL (Birmingham suburb) school closing notice.

al.com

I prefer Harlan County’s take:
Arrest warrant issued for Frozen’s Elsa

No word on why they haven’t tracked Boyd Crowder down yet.

293 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 1:51:30pm

re: #287 Charles Johnson

Here he goes again.

Real. Award-winning. Journalism.

294 Kryptik  Feb 25, 2015 1:53:23pm

re: #287 Charles Johnson

Here he goes again.

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re: #288 Charles Johnson

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And without a sense of irony or self-awareness whatsoever.

What a fucking tool.

295 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 1:53:23pm

re: #274 b_sharp

I hear it with atheism too, but that’s hardly the level of crap you have to go through every day.

I try to call the anti-muslim bs going on in the atheist community, but they’re a stubborn bunch of assholes.

I don’t envy you.

{{{b_ssharp}}}

296 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 1:53:37pm

re: #282 Great White Snark

Conspiracy? Not at all. Hardball / moneyball politics would be my descriptor. I am pretty sure there are Dems (particularly national PACS) out there that would love to see Rice run as an easy take down. Or as a huge foil to gain donations. After all say “war criminal” and “candidate” in the same pitch for donations and you got a winning pitch.

In the same vein, there are surely republicans that would rather see Hilary run than Elizabeth Warren for similar reasons. Get donation $$$ baby!

But the article you linked quoted e-mails from Republican groups. Nothing at all from Dems, and yet your comment implied that the reason her name keeps coming up is to raise $$$ for the Dem base. I have trouble going from “Dems are pushing to see her run so they can raise money” to “look at the Republican groups pushing for Rice to run.”

Clearly you don’t, so.

297 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 1:55:16pm

re: #289 calochortus

I should be making out a shopping list for a trip to Home Depot. Your list looks like more fun.

It looks PRETTY which is an improvement given that I am doing all the graphics for this by myself trying to stick to stock Android as much as possible.

Graphics design is not necessarily my strong suit.

298 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 1:56:07pm

re: #285 leftynyc

I’m 74; we wore “ballet” slippers (with a flat heel) all through HS.

299 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 25, 2015 1:56:54pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

I wasn’t talking about here, but it’s something I have to live with every day, and I’m 99.9% sure that the anti-Muslim rhetoric is only going to get worse the closer we get to 2016 (unless the GOP finds someone or something else to be “It”).

Hillary the “Lesbian”.
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300 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 1:57:43pm

re: #292 Timothy Watson

I prefer Harlan County’s take:
Arrest warrant issued for Frozen’s Elsa

No word on why they haven’t tracked Boyd Crowder down yet.

They put out another arrest warrant for her yesterday.

:D

301 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 1:58:54pm

Heh, is he waiting to be indicted?

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie tells town hall meeting in Moorestown he has ‘not made up my mind’ about a 2016 presidential race - @stevebruskCNN
see original on twitter.com

302 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 1:58:58pm
303 calochortus  Feb 25, 2015 1:59:23pm

re: #297 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It looks PRETTY which is an improvement given that I am doing all the graphics for this by myself trying to stick to stock Android as much as possible.

Graphics design is not necessarily my strong suit.

It does look pretty.
But no matter how pretty it is or isn’t, it would be much more fun to go shopping for thread than for drip irrigation components and stuff to make a new bird bath.

304 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 25, 2015 2:05:40pm

re: #303 calochortus

It does look pretty.
But no matter how pretty it is or isn’t, it would be much more fun to go shopping for thread than for drip irrigation components and stuff to make a new bird bath.

Can you incorporate drip irrigation components into the bird bath design?

My father did that when living in “high desert” out near Bend, Oregon. The concrete birdbath got constant re-fill using a drip irrigation hose that ran up an adjacent juniper tree and then dripped water down 3’ into the bird bath. (Which, given the dry conditions, was very popular with the local bird and bee population. He also scattered millet seed under a few of the juniper and there would be scads of California Quail hanging out on occasion.)

One species of finch would hang out on a small branch and then fly over and intercept the individual falling drops. Seemed a fairly energetic way to get a drink.

305 blueraven  Feb 25, 2015 2:07:06pm

Netanyahu Invites Arab Diplomats to His Big Speech—and Gets Rejected

Israeli sources tell me that Dermer in recent days has e-mailed at least two Arab ambassadors, those of Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates. He made the case in these e-mails that Sunni-majority Arab states and Israel have a common interest in thwarting a nuclear agreement with Shiite Iran—and that presenting a united and public front on Capitol Hill will help convince Congress to stop the Iran deal before it’s too late.

It is true that Israel and such countries as Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Kuwait see Iran as an enemy, and believe that the Obama administration might be inadvertently (or, for the more conspiratorially minded, advertently) setting Iran on the path to nuclearization. It is also true that no Arab ambassador would allow himself to be used as a prop in Netanyahu’s controversial address, and I’m told that neither ambassador will be in attendance. (A related, subsidiary question is this: Just who from the diplomatic corps will actually attend the speech? Will any ambassador show up?)

306 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 2:09:54pm

1. In a Russian region the teachers’ pay is being cut for whatever reason (officially not because of the crisis).

2. A local ONF leader’s advice to the female teachers: find rich husbands.

(From the chronicles of Russia’s degradation.)

307 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 2:10:18pm

U.S. Treasury presses Qatar on terror finance

news.yahoo.com

308 Timothy Watson  Feb 25, 2015 2:10:39pm

Well, I get to drive down to Richmond, VA for a college class now. Story of my life:

309 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 2:11:28pm

re: #306 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

And it’s reported in the Entertainment section? Meh. Assholes.

310 Mike Lamb  Feb 25, 2015 2:14:11pm

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Get ready to re-set the clock…

311 calochortus  Feb 25, 2015 2:14:53pm

re: #304 Feline Fearless Leader

I intend to run a drip line to the bird bath to use when we’re away. I don’t want to have a lot of overflow, since that wastes water, so I’m not sure about having a constant drip. I’ve been giving it some thought, but haven’t arrived at a decision.

312 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 2:15:32pm

re: #310 Mike Lamb

Get ready to re-set the clock…

:D

313 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 2:17:09pm
314 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 2:22:08pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

I wasn’t talking about here, but it’s something I have to live with every day, and I’m 99.9% sure that the anti-Muslim rhetoric is only going to get worse the closer we get to 2016 (unless the GOP finds someone or something else to be “It”).

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why, The Hillary, of course

+ muslims + ben ghazi + etc

315 BeachDem  Feb 25, 2015 2:22:13pm

re: #36 Skip Intro

Speakers as listed on the CPAC’s Speaker’s page:

Rep. Marsha Blackburn
Ambassador John R. Bolton
Brent Bozell III
Governor Sam Brownback
Ann Marie Buerkle
Jeb Bush
Dr. Ben Carson
The Hon. Ted Cruz
Carly Fiorina
Sean Hannity
Laura Ingraham
Gov. Bobby Jindal
Mark Levin
KT McFarland
Governor Sarah Palin
Sen. Rand Paul
Gov. Rick Perry
Senator Marco Rubio
Sen. Rick Santorum
Senator Tim Scott
Donald Trump
Gov. Scott Walker

The only ones missing are UpChuck and Son of Erick.

Whenever I see that list, I wonder why Ted Cruz is “The Honorable” while all the other Sens are just Sen. or Senator (nice consistency in their titles)

316 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 2:24:08pm

re: #315 BeachDem

Esp since none of them are what we’d call “honorable”.

Asshats, all of them.

317 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 2:25:59pm

re: #315 BeachDem

Whenever I see that list, I wonder why Ted Cruz is “The Honorable” while all the other Sens are just Sen. or Senator (nice consistency in their titles)

IOW, the same group of clowns as last time.

But where’s Sarah?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

318 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 2:26:38pm

Ouch!

Video: Madonna falls while performing at the Brit Awards - Vine user Andy Dawson
vine.co

319 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 2:27:29pm

re: #317 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

IOW, the same group of clowns as last time.

But where’s Sarah?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

Oh, sorry, she’s there of course.

Since she isn’t currently employed there’s always time for a hate-fest….

320 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 25, 2015 2:27:51pm

re: #286 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My sisters are 5’9” and 5’7”.

I am 5’4” if I wear flip flops.

Sigh.

My oldest brother is 6’5”, my middle sister is 5’6”, other four of us lie somewhere in between.

321 calochortus  Feb 25, 2015 2:28:17pm

Must go do something constructive.
BBL

322 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 2:28:18pm

re: #311 calochortus

I intend to run a drip line to the bird bath to use when we’re away. I don’t want to have a lot of overflow, since that wastes water, so I’m not sure about having a constant drip. I’ve been giving it some thought, but haven’t arrived at a decision.

Column-style toilet tank valve in a narrow pipe container with leveled flow.

build.com

323 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 25, 2015 2:28:34pm

re: #315 BeachDem

What about GOHMERT!!!!!!!

324 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 2:29:01pm

re: #322 Decatur Deb

Link added: build.com

325 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 2:29:37pm

re: #282 Great White Snark

Are you still here? I found out about the following site yesterday when watching this B&H video about fine art digital printing. It’s all about printer ink & papers and how they stand up to tests—useful if you print any of your work:

wilhelm-research.com

326 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 2:30:40pm

re: #317 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

IOW, the same group of clowns as last time.

But where’s Sarah?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

She was giving a speech to the National Association of Tower Erectors in Florida, and then went to Disney World.

I am so not kidding about that.

327 goddamnedfrank  Feb 25, 2015 2:33:01pm

re: #315 BeachDem

Whenever I see that list, I wonder why Ted Cruz is “The Honorable” while all the other Sens are just Sen. or Senator (nice consistency in their titles)

He was Solicitor General of Texas. Solicitor and Attorney Generals are titled by “the Honorable.”

Normally Senator would trump this, it’s a higher political position, and unlike SG is an elected not an appointed one. Cruz’s people obviously like Honorable because they think it sounds cooler and places him apart.

I can’t think of another Senator off the top of my head who was a State AG / SG, but I’m fairly sure that Cruz can’t be the first. If we can find them and the honorific they preferred it would put Cruz’s decision in context.

328 bratwurst  Feb 25, 2015 2:33:14pm
329 Kragar  Feb 25, 2015 2:35:08pm
330 Kragar  Feb 25, 2015 2:37:06pm

Loudermilk also said that as chairman of the Subcommittee on Oversight in the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, he would consider holding hearings on a questioner’s allegation that the CDC “falsified data” on the safety of vaccines.

331 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 2:37:51pm

re: #329 Kragar

Garlow: The Purpose Of Government Is To Function As ‘A Minister Of God’

and - let me guess - you’re one of the people who gets to decide what god’s will is

right?

332 thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2015 2:38:03pm

Evening Lizardim from the cool, clear wild north country. I am glad to have returned to the safety of the lizardfolk after a trying afternoon involving a collision in the parking garage as I was leaving work. How go things in the war on derp?

333 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 2:39:19pm

re: #330 Kragar

oh for a life where milk stays quiet

334 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 2:40:32pm

re: #330 Kragar

Can someone arrange to have a guy be found in his bed? Only half///

These ignoramuses are driving me nuts, I tell you.

335 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 25, 2015 2:40:54pm

re: #333 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

oh for a life where milk stays quiet

I think that particular milk goes to ‘11’.
//

336 goddamnedfrank  Feb 25, 2015 2:46:29pm

re: #327 goddamnedfrank

John Cornyn also lists his official contact as “The Honorable John Cornyn.” So Cruz isn’t alone in this practice.

337 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Feb 25, 2015 4:14:06pm

re: #213 b_sharp

All I’m good for is reaching stuff from the upper cupboard.

If V wants to hide something from me all she has to do is put it on the top shelf in the fridge.

If S wants to hide something from me, all she has to do is to put it in the fruit or vegetable drawers. Out of sight, out of mind.


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