CPAC’s Attempt at Covering Up a Minor Server Glitch Backfires

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Ben Terris, a reporter for the Washington Post noticed this morning that CPAC’s webpage for Dr. Ben Carson in fact featured a photo of Senator Tim Scott. On cue, the giggles of CPAC’s inability to recognize two different African American men began in earnest.:

CPAC Website Apparently Mixed Up Two Black Republicans

The website for the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) appeared to have mistakenly posted a photo of Sen. Tim Scott (R-NC) in a biography for conservative activist Dr. Ben Carson, both of whom are scheduled to be speakers at the event this week.

It seems, this was not the first time CPAC’s mobile site had made a photo-related error…

And it appears, CPAC admitted its error initially:

Which it subsequently walked back :

Now a new wrinkle - CPAC is actually accusing Terris of manipulating the image, as Brendan James reports:

A spokesman for the Conservative Political Action Conference said on Wednesday that an image posted to Twitter by a Washington Post reporter earlier in the day, which appeared to show the CPAC website had mixed up photos two black Republicans scheduled to speak at the event, was fake.

“It’s a photoshop,” CPAC spokesman Ross Hemminger told TPM by phone when asked about the image.

Hemminger disputed that CPAC had made an error.

“I’ve spoken with the web people who verified that it was definitely photoshopped,” Hemminger said, promising to send evidence that the image was a fabrication.

By noon on Wednesday, Hemminger had not sent such evidence. (TPM will update if he does.)

Terris denies photoshopping the image:

To which, CPAC responded by providing a cache of the webpage from yesterday, before Terris had taken his screenshot:

cache of CPAC ben carson page

The problem with this angle of defense, that Terris is committing a fraud to smear CPAC, and that the cached page is proof, is twofold:

1) Cached pages are not screenshots, they do not cache images.
Cached pages are a text cache of sourcing code from a webpage. Images are not cached, and the cache itself is not a ‘moment in time’ capture of a websites images. The images are pulled directly off the hosting server, even in cached pages. In this case, they are pulled off the CPAC server, not the server where the text ‘source code’ of the cached page is stored.

You can demonstrate this quite easily - open the cached page, right-click on the image of Dr. Carson, and select ‘open image in new window/tab’ - which brings you to here: Image: Ben-Carson-338x507.jpg - the original image hosted on the original
CPAC server.

In real terms, what this means is while the text on the page is from yesterday, the image has been culled afresh from the webpage when you actually open the cached page in real-time. If the original image was named BenCarson.jpg but was instead a picture of Tim Scott, and that image was corrected to one of Carson, without changing the name or redirecting location for the original image on the server, the cached page would always show the new, corrected image, not the original image at time of caching. This can further be shown by clicking on a webcache of a page say from the early 90’s where the servers have since gone offline - the text and source code will still show up - but the images will not.

2) The CPAC server has a history of this particular glitch:

What this shows us is likely the CPAC mobile page has a glitch that confuses the redirection of photographs from the server, lining them up with the wrong biographies on their mobile site. And, while this means CPAC likely did not commit an error of ‘racial confusion’ as TPM suggested, it’s reaction to that slight has been to demonstrate it does not understand how html and web architecture works.

What is more puzzling: after CPAC initially admitted a mobile server side glitch, it proceeded to waylay that excuse in an endeavor to accuse a respected journalist of fraud. While getting poked for a silly error, CPAC revealed that it is so sensitive to questions related to it’s racial motivations to go as far to demonstrate it does not understand how the internet works.

As the cliche’ goes - the irony is when the cover-up is worse than the original crime. Talking Point Memo’s all too easy cheap shot pushed CPAC into proving Freud’s proverbial ‘slip’ will continue to confound those with vulnerable egos.

update: I incorrectly referred to Ben Terris as ‘Brian’ - this has been corrected.

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446 comments

1 Khal Wimpo  Feb 25, 2015 11:39:10am

I hear that when the intertubes get all mixed up and cross-connected like that, you can wind up drinking raw sewage out of the water fountain.

Come to think of it, that pretty much sums up the CPAC experience.

2 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 11:51:44am

These people are such idiots. Rather than just simply say, “Sorry for the error - we’ve corrected it,” they get defensive and play victim and accuse people of photoshopping the image, and make things much worse for themselves. And they do it every single time.

3 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2015 11:53:05am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

These people are such idiots. Rather than just simply say, “Sorry for the error - we’ve corrected it,” they get defensive and play victim and accuse people of photoshopping the image, and make things much worse for themselves. And they do it every single time.

They also try to pretend to be technology experts when they don’t have a fucking clue.

4 palmerskiss  Feb 25, 2015 11:53:25am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

These people are such idiots. Rather than just simply say, “Sorry for the error - we’ve corrected it,” they get defensive and play victim and accuse people of photoshopping the image, and make things much worse for themselves. And they do it every single time.

it’s always the media’s fault. it’s become so rote for them now, and the sensitivity to racism that it has begun to replace simple common sense.

5 WhatEVs  Feb 25, 2015 12:48:12pm

Ah, personal responsibility from the right. Nothing like saying Opps and moving on. Oh no. Must. Place. Blame.

6 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 1:05:40pm

I bet the pixels are bigger in part of that image…..
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7 Iwouldprefernotto  Feb 25, 2015 2:41:22pm

Next time they should just steal photos from CCJ.

8 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 25, 2015 2:41:28pm

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

I bet the pixels are bigger in part of that image…..
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Damn…. you beat me to it.

RBS

9 Kragar  Feb 25, 2015 2:41:56pm

Note the hands

10 Kragar  Feb 25, 2015 2:42:04pm
11 thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2015 2:42:47pm

re: #10 Kragar

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Protip: Anyone who claims to speak for Jesus, doesn’t.

12 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 2:43:34pm

So CPAC guys are technically illiterate morons.

In other moron news:

An Italian court has sentenced actress Ornella Muti to jail after she took a sick day to skip a theater performance but then flew out to have dinner with President Vladimir Putin at a charity dinner in St. Petersburg, Italian web site Oggi reported.

themoscowtimes.com

13 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 2:45:56pm

re: #10 Kragar

Steve Deace: “Jesus Says Obama

jesus tells me you are a standard poodle

14 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 2:48:29pm

re: #10 Kragar

Yet another example of how saying “this person is not [insert religious id here]” is usually ridiculous.

15 Iwouldprefernotto  Feb 25, 2015 2:49:14pm

re: #10 Kragar

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re: #13 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

jesus tells me you are a standard poodle

Snow Dog

Chewey does not agree

16 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 2:49:43pm

re: #12 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

So CPAC guys are technically illiterate morons.

In other moron news:

themoscowtimes.com

ORCA II will rely on telegraphy.

17 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 2:49:57pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

These people are such idiots. Rather than just simply say, “Sorry for the error - we’ve corrected it,” they get defensive and play victim and accuse people of photoshopping the image, and make things much worse for themselves. And they do it every single time.

More of that famed conservative personal responsibility.

18 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 2:51:14pm

This actually reminds me of the story about Reagan calling his African-American HHS secretary, Mr. Mayor.

19 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 2:51:29pm

Accept the responsibility, you asshats.

What a horrible crowd of people.

20 Lidane  Feb 25, 2015 2:51:51pm
21 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 2:53:29pm

re: #20 Lidane

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What the fuck is wrong with these people? Yeah Obama’s collaborating with ISIL. Rolls fucking eyes and lights the Congressman’s desk on fire.

22 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 2:55:07pm

re: #20 Lidane

How about they round up these chickenhawks, give them guns and drop them off in the ISIS territory? Would be fitting, I think.

23 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 2:56:13pm

re: #20 Lidane

Maybe he should offer to fly them over to Syria and Iraq for a look-see. I’d bet my SS check they’d refuse. : )

24 Kid A  Feb 25, 2015 2:56:15pm

Steve McQueen.

25 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 25, 2015 2:57:15pm

re: #22 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

How about they round up these chickenhawks, give them guns and drop them off in the ISIS territory? Would be fitting, I think.

Why would we want to supply ISIS with more soldiers? These guys would turncoat and help kill civilians there to save their own hides in an instant.
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26 jc717  Feb 25, 2015 2:57:27pm

re: #20 Lidane

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Trolling or just stupid?
I’ll go with trolling. I can see some of these guys making bets over beer and poker about the stupidest thing they can get the rubes in their base to believe.

27 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 2:59:34pm

This is coming our way. No school tomorrow.

instagram.com

28 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 3:00:24pm

re: #27 Justanotherhuman

This is coming our way. No school tomorrow.

instagram.com

The Munchkin must be happy :)

29 Kid A  Feb 25, 2015 3:00:46pm

Shawn Carter.

30 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 3:01:40pm

Short and sweet:

Morgan Stanley agrees to pay $2.6 billion to settle with the Department of Justice over its sales of residential mortgage-backed securities - @BloombergNews

bloomberg.com

31 Kid A  Feb 25, 2015 3:03:28pm

re: #30 Justanotherhuman

Not one person was ever charged, indicted and sent to prison.

32 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 3:04:08pm

re: #30 Justanotherhuman

Short and sweet:

Morgan Stanley agrees to pay $2.6 billion to settle with the Department of Justice over its sales of residential mortgage-backed securities - @BloombergNews

bloomberg.com

what part of the 2.6 billion do we get to see?

33 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Feb 25, 2015 3:12:28pm

re: #20 Lidane

34 Kragar  Feb 25, 2015 3:18:29pm
35 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 3:20:33pm

re: #34 Kragar

I prefer the Loofah-Man. Or the Falafel-Boy, if that’s more of your thing.

36 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 3:21:23pm

An oldie but goodie:

Now it so happens that I have devoted more than half a century to the study of psychic and cold readings. I have been especially concerned with why such readings can seem so concrete and compelling, even to skeptics. As a way to earn extra income, I began reading palms when I was in my teens. At first, I was skeptical. I thought that people believed in palmistry and other divination procedures because they could easily fit very general statements to their particular situation. To establish credibility with my clients, I read books on palmistry and gave readings according to the accepted interpretations for the lines, shape of the fingers, mounds, and other indicators. I was astonished by the reactions of my clients. My clients consistently praised me for my accuracy even when I told them very specific things about problems with their health and other personal matters. I even would get phone calls from clients telling me that a prediction that I had made for them had come true. Within months of my entry into palm reading, I became a staunch believer in its validity. My conviction was so strong that I convinced my skeptical high school English teacher by giving him readings and arguing with him. I later also convinced the head of the psychology department where I was an undergraduate.

csicop.org

37 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 25, 2015 3:22:20pm

re: #35 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I prefer the Loofahman. Or the Falafelboy, if that’s more of your thing.

Loofahman sounds like his superhero identity. With mild-mannered reporter/pundit O’Reilly as the cover identity. Time to photoshop the mask and cape while he exclaims - “You can’t explain that!”
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38 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 3:23:35pm

re: #32 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

I dunno, but M-S had $37B in revenues in 2013 and probably much more today. It didn’t hurt them at all.

39 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 3:27:44pm

re: #36 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

An oldie but goodie:

the next paragraph

When I was a sophomore, majoring in journalism, a well-known mentalist and trusted friend persuaded me to try an experiment in which I would deliberately read a client’s hand opposite to what the signs in her hand indicated. I was shocked to discover that this client insisted that this was the most accurate reading she had ever experienced. As a result, I carried out more experiments with the same outcome. It dawned on me that something important was going on.

40 Kid A  Feb 25, 2015 3:30:12pm
41 Justanotherhuman  Feb 25, 2015 3:30:20pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm…

42 jc717  Feb 25, 2015 3:31:47pm

re: #30 Justanotherhuman

Short and sweet:

Morgan Stanley agrees to pay $2.6 billion to settle with the Department of Justice over its sales of residential mortgage-backed securities - @BloombergNews

bloomberg.com

And how much did they make on such misdeeds? Will they have to admit wrongdoing? will anyone go to jail?
If not, then this is just a cost of doing business.

43 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 3:31:54pm

re: #40 Kid A

If he only looked like a moron, that would be half bad…

44 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 25, 2015 3:33:03pm

re: #40 Kid A

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Got it at “MC Hammers House of Style”

RBS

45 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 3:33:57pm

Man, I had to take a break from Twitter today. The self-righteousness reached epic proportions.

Sometimes I understand the point people are trying to make but I still disagree with them. That doesn’t make me evil, or an apostate.

Just had to vent a little about the awfulness being spewed at Patricia Arquette, for some unscripted remarks backstage at the Oscars. It’s fucking ridiculous, and my opinion of some people has been downgraded significantly.

OK, mini-rant over.

46 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 25, 2015 3:36:07pm

re: #22 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

How about they round up these chickenhawks, give them guns and drop them off in the ISIS territory? Would be fitting, I think.

That’s my feeling.

Tell them we’ll resupply them after the VA is fully funded to heal the broken and damaged from their wars that caused ISIS to exist.

47 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 3:36:32pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Purists will be purists.

48 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 25, 2015 3:36:55pm

re: #34 Kragar

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I prefer Bill O’Liar. It scans better.

49 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 3:37:24pm

re: #20 Lidane

GOP congressmen accuse Obama of collaborating with the terrorist “enemy,” faking attacks on ISIS

This is your democracy on drugs.

50 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 3:37:26pm
In a critique of student evaluations of teaching, professor of law Deborah Merritt summarized the Dr. Fox Effect as it was observed in the first experiments: “The experimenters created a meaningless lecture on ‘Mathematical Game Theory as Applied to Physician Education,’ and coached the actor to deliver it ‘with an excessive use of double talk, neologisms, non sequiturs, and contradictory statements.’ At the same time, the researchers encouraged the actor to adopt a lively demeanor, convey warmth toward his audience, and intersperse his nonsensical comments with humor. … The actor fooled not just one, but three separate audiences of professional and graduate students. Despite the emptiness of his lecture, fifty-five psychiatrists, psychologists, educators, graduate students, and other professionals produced evaluations of Dr. Fox that were overwhelmingly positive. … The disturbing feature of the Dr. Fox study, as the experimenters noted, is that Fox’s nonverbal behaviors so completely masked a meaningless, jargon-filled, and confused presentation.”

en.wikipedia.org

51 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 3:39:50pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Man, I had to take a break from Twitter today. The self-righteousness reached epic proportions.

Sometimes I understand the point people are trying to make but I still disagree with them. That doesn’t make me evil, or an apostate.

Just had to vent a little about the awfulness being spewed at Patricia Arquette, for some unscripted remarks backstage at the Oscars. It’s fucking ridiculous, and my opinion of some people has been downgraded significantly.

OK, mini-rant over.

I have to agree with you.

All this nonsense about intersectionality, and structural erasure misses the point she was making by focusing on semantics rather than context.

52 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 3:40:19pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Yep.

53 Kragar  Feb 25, 2015 3:41:03pm
54 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 3:41:08pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Man, I had to take a break from Twitter today. The self-righteousness reached epic proportions.

Sometimes I understand the point people are trying to make but I still disagree with them. That doesn’t make me evil, or an apostate.

Just had to vent a little about the awfulness being spewed at Patricia Arquette, for some unscripted remarks backstage at the Oscars. It’s fucking ridiculous, and my opinion of some people has been downgraded significantly.

OK, mini-rant over.

Really!
All of this purist vocabulary being thrown around is getting on my last nerve.
The “you white people need to admit to white privilege” camp started hammering on Arquette and anyone who even tried to make a comment the very night of the Oscars before she even had an opportunity to reflect on what she said backstage.

And then the Nicole Sandler twitter debacle.

gah….

55 Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2015 3:42:07pm
56 Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2015 3:43:14pm
57 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 3:43:20pm

re: #51 b_sharp

It’s pure bad logic.

washingtonpost.com

Nevertheless, Arquette’s comments are problematic. Arquette mentions four groups: “women,” “all the men that love women,” “gay people,” and “people of color.” It’s clear that Arquette’s notion of “women” refers to straight white women. By segmenting the last two groups in these comments, Arquette excludes queer white women, women of color, and queer women of color. Furthermore, Arquette claims “we” [white women] have fought for these people, and she insists that now these people must fight for “us” [white women].

Uh, no. That’s not at all how it works.

But then, logic is probably also a tool of the oppressive white patriarchy.

58 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 3:43:50pm
59 Kid A  Feb 25, 2015 3:44:32pm

George Will on Obama and Netanyahu: “We have a community organizer dealing with a commando.”

Dick.

60 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 3:44:58pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have concluded there is nothing that I could say that would not be taken as offensive by someone and probably open myself up to a lot of harassment that I don’t want to deal with, so I don’t say anything at all.

And this is as someone who can see both sides of it. I just don’t want to deal with it.

61 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 3:45:48pm

re: #57 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

It’s pure bad logic.

washingtonpost.com

Uh, no. That’s not at all how it works.

But then, logic is probably also a tool of the oppressive white patriarchy.

My first thought was “make a fucking Venn diagram if you’re confused”. That those actively attacking Arquette can’t logically interpret what she said frustrates the hell out of me, irrespective of which group they self-identify with.

62 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 3:45:51pm

re: #60 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have concluded there is nothing that I could say that would not be taken as offensive by someone and probably open myself up to a lot of harassment that I don’t want to deal with, so I don’t say anything at all.

And this is as someone who can see both sides of it. I just don’t want to deal with it.

yep. me, too. And I come from an inter-racial family.

63 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 3:47:08pm

re: #55 Amory Blaine

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The only things not hideously repellent about that image is he (1) isn’t twisting a balloon animal, and (2) isn’t asking some poor child to pick a card, any card.

64 Kragar  Feb 25, 2015 3:47:21pm
65 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 3:47:37pm

re: #59 Kid A

George Will on Obama and Netanyahu: “We have a community organizer dealing with a commando.”

Dick.

Seriously? Still going with the community organizer angle? And wasn’t it Bibi’s brother that was the actual commando? I know Bibi did IDF time as required in Israel. Really this is just pathetic after all the attacks for much mild critiques of the Bush WH but it’s perfectly okay with Mr. I hate Jeans to dismiss POTUS as a community organizer.

66 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 3:48:35pm

re: #59 Kid A

“We have a community organizer dealing with a commando.”

…wrote a useless, impotent pundit.

67 Kragar  Feb 25, 2015 3:49:31pm
68 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 3:50:32pm

re: #67 Kragar

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Family values party. Man these people make me sick. It upset me before my brother married into an immigrant family but now that it hits close to home, it makes me furious.

69 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 3:51:08pm

This is the same party of course that boos openly gay servicemembers, chants let him die, and nominates people who believe in legitimate rape.

70 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 3:51:20pm

140 characters isn’t suitable for complex subjects.

71 goddamnedfrank  Feb 25, 2015 3:51:55pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

I’m just sitting back watching the whole thing. I think that Arquette’s statement was pretty much muddled and clumsy as fuck, but I also think the backlash against her is more than a bit on the histrionic side.

Kind of typical of the whole thing, I thought this guy Ebers had a good point through the first half of this comment on ABL’s facebook page, but it kind of goes off the rails at the end.

Let me see if I understand what’s going on here. A white celebrity advocates something we all agree with - equal pay, and general equality among the sexes - but then, bizarrely, also calls out people of other traditionally disadvantaged groups saying, in essence, “we have always supported you, now you need to do a better job supporting us.” So, people within the groups she called out say, “Uh, wait …” - and suddenly they’re the ones being “divisive”? They’re the bad guys? And all of the sudden, the folks who relentlessly attacked Pres. Obama from the left, the folks who actively discouraged people from voting, and so forth, are saying, “HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE A CELEBRITY!”
Apparently, mild criticism of a white liberal celebrity is the new fascism.

I think there’s a ton of conflation and lazy shit going on in the second half of that. I don’t really care to defend Arquette, except inasmuch as she’s a human being who made a good intentioned but rather inarticulate statement prone to misinterpretation. I don’t think the people defending her on that basis are doing so because she’s a celebrity, and I don’t think they’re by and large the one’s who relentlessly attack Obama from the left either, at least since 2008 after Hillary’s candidacy collapsed.

I don’t know. I don’t really care either except that it’s lame to see the left tearing at itself over mostly nothing. Which isn’t to say intersectionality issues aren’t important, but the proponents are doing a bang up job of alienating the fuck out of otherwise sympathetic voices.

Boudreau had a succinct pair of tweets that sums up my feelings at this point:

72 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 3:51:55pm

Seems like Twitter is making good on its promise?

73 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 3:52:00pm

re: #67 Kragar

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The only thing I find shocking about that story is that it took place in Georgia and not Arizona.

74 Skip Intro  Feb 25, 2015 3:52:16pm

re: #56 Amory Blaine

The Dangerous Candidacy of Scott Walker

As Dana Milbank, of the Washington Post noted, it allowed Walker to “wink and nod at the far-right fringe where people really believe that Obama is a Muslim from Kenya who hates America.”

Far right fringe my ass. This is mainstream Republican thinking. It’s a rare Republican who doesn’t believe that, and I can’t think of a single one of them in Congress.

75 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 3:52:40pm

re: #59 Kid A

George Will on Obama and Netanyahu: “We have a community organizer dealing with a commando.”

Dick.

could have just as easily written about W “we have a cheerleader dealing with terrorists”

or about reagan “we have a movie actor dealing with a dictator”

or about will: “we have a scribbler making judgements about people who have actual responsibilities”

76 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 3:55:05pm

re: #75 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

could have just as easily written about W “we have a cheerleader dealing with terrorists”

or about reagan “we have a movie actor dealing with a dictator”

or about will: “we have a scribbler making judgements about people who have actual responsibilities”

A bicycle riding French speaking missionary.

77 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 3:56:06pm

re: #59 Kid A

George Will on Obama and Netanyahu: “We have a community organizer dealing with a commando.”

He’s probably one of those fetishists who fawned over Bush’s infamous codpiece.

78 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 3:57:26pm

re: #77 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

He’s probably one of those fetishists who fawned over Bush’s infamous codpiece.

Oh god that was embarrassing. I don’t care if Bush is a licensed pilot or that he flew in the Texas Air National Guard. That he played dress up with that was embarrassing to me. It felt like a kid dressing up on Halloween.

79 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 3:57:32pm

Palate cleanser:
She left gifts for the crows, and they brought gifts to her in return:

80 Kid A  Feb 25, 2015 3:58:15pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Yes. He just said it on Special Distort with the Fixed All-Nuts.

81 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 3:59:37pm

re: #80 Kid A

Yes. He just said it on Special Distort with the Fixed All-Nuts.

What a lame ass. I know he’s a hack but still going with the community organizer dig? And honestly community organizers are much more courageous and bold than what people like what Mitt Romney did for their living.

82 Patricia Kayden  Feb 25, 2015 3:59:41pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Ms. Arquette has clarified her initial comments. We need to let it go. I’m sure in the heat of the moment, she may have said something that came out the wrong way. But her heart is in the right place so I’m not sure where all the hatred is coming from.

Do the people attacking her really think she’s racist or homophobic? This brouhaha is silly.

83 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 4:00:57pm

Really? It has come to this?

84 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 4:01:01pm

Brain Break — little known fact: Christina Ricci is 104 years old. Most people don’t know that.

85 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 4:01:09pm

re: #72 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Seems like Twitter is making good on its promise?

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They do seem to be a bit more ready to take action against these assholes lately.

86 Patricia Kayden  Feb 25, 2015 4:01:20pm

re: #59 Kid A

George Will on Obama and Netanyahu: “We have a community organizer dealing with a commando.”

Dick.

And the community organizer is holding his own.

87 Patricia Kayden  Feb 25, 2015 4:01:44pm

re: #83 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Really? It has come to this?

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Sigh.

88 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 4:02:20pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

I’m just sitting back watching the whole thing. I think that Arquette’s statement was pretty much muddled and clumsy as fuck, but I also think the backlash against her is more than a bit on the histrionic side.

Kind of typical of the whole thing, I thought this guy Ebers had a good point through the first half of this comment on ABL’s facebook page, but it kind of goes off the rails at the end.

I think there’s a ton of conflation and lazy shit going on in the second half of that. I don’t really care to defend Arquette, except inasmuch as she’s a human being who made a good intentioned but rather inarticulate statement prone to misinterpretation. I don’t think the people defending her on that basis are doing so because she’s a celebrity, and I don’t think they’re by and large the one’s who relentlessly attack Obama from the left either, at least since 2008 after Hillary’s candidacy collapsed.

I don’t know. I don’t really care either except that it’s lame to see the left tearing at itself over mostly nothing. Which isn’t to say intersectionality issues aren’t important, but the proponents are doing a bang up job of alienating the fuck out of otherwise sympathetic voices.

Boudreau had a succinct pair of tweets that sums up my feelings at this point:

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She didn’t say that LGBT & WoC were not doing a good enough job, she was saying the the focus has been on the rights of LGBT and PoC and it was time to expand the coverage to all women. It was about focus, not job done.

89 Timothy Watson  Feb 25, 2015 4:02:47pm

re: #57 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

It’s pure bad logic.

washingtonpost.com

Uh, no. That’s not at all how it works.

But then, logic is probably also a tool of the oppressive white patriarchy.

OFFS, that sounds like the crap that was coming from the Asian American woman who was going after Colbert awhile back (can’t remember her name).

90 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 4:03:11pm

re: #86 Patricia Kayden

And the community organizer is holding his own.

Well, it really depends on whether you want something organized or demolished. Like the Middle East, f’rinstance.

91 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 4:04:17pm

re: #83 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Really? It has come to this?

“The function of the press in society is to inform, but its role in society is to make money.” — A. J. Liebling

92 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 4:05:48pm

I know it’s been posted, and not once, but what the heck.

93 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 4:07:08pm

From the context, it seems Ms Arquette must be an actress or other member of the film community. As such, her views are at least as attendable as those of my barber.

94 Kid A  Feb 25, 2015 4:07:26pm

Holy shit. George Will’s daughter, Victoria, is the photographer that did the tin-types of celebrities that won first place at POYi (Pictures of the Year International) this month. Her work is very good.

95 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 4:07:47pm

re: #89 Timothy Watson

OFFS, that sounds like the crap that was coming from the Asian American woman who was going after Colbert awhile back (can’t remember her name).

Some people just look for offense where none is intended (as opposed to the “sorry to anyone who may have been offended” bogus apologies for obvious dog whistles).
What is amazing to me is that some people on twitter are just not letting it go and, in fact, are doubling down on how offended they are.

smh…

96 Great White Snark  Feb 25, 2015 4:09:20pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Man, I had to take a break from Twitter today. The self-righteousness reached epic proportions.

Sometimes I understand the point people are trying to make but I still disagree with them. That doesn’t make me evil, or an apostate.

Just had to vent a little about the awfulness being spewed at Patricia Arquette, for some unscripted remarks backstage at the Oscars. It’s fucking ridiculous, and my opinion of some people has been downgraded significantly.

OK, mini-rant over.

Hollywood is the Peshawar of progressive insistence. The tribal lines are clear with that bunch. Left wing vs not quite left enough wing vs everyone that knows enough to ignore their antics. All she did was accidentally ripple the established waters of advocacy.

97 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 4:10:11pm

re: #92 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I know it’s been posted, and not once, but what the heck

“Good artists copy, great artists make some crazy ass stuff.” — Pablo Picasso

98 goddamnedfrank  Feb 25, 2015 4:11:55pm

re: #57 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

It’s pure bad logic.

washingtonpost.com

Uh, no. That’s not at all how it works.

But then, logic is probably also a tool of the oppressive white patriarchy.

It’s just pedantry in the form of unsupported inference. It would appear some people need to have their rhetoric mashed up into an easily digestible paste and spoon fed to them in tiny mouthfuls.

99 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 4:12:02pm

re: #97 De Kolta Chair

Is it called “Awaiting the latest from Fox News”?

100 Kid A  Feb 25, 2015 4:13:30pm
102 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 4:14:22pm

re: #98 goddamnedfrank

It’s almost as if Rush Limbaugh wrote a parody of “liberal discourse”.

103 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 4:15:36pm

re: #100 Kid A

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A simple “No Solicitors” would probably do.

104 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 25, 2015 4:20:21pm

re: #100 Kid A

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Won’t that potentially soon get you arrested in some states for displaying nude art?
// ;p

105 Timothy Watson  Feb 25, 2015 4:20:40pm

re: #100 Kid A

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Is that a Great Khan or Legion camp?

(Pardon the Fallout: New Vegas reference)

106 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 4:23:09pm

Welp, I have received a couple of pissy Tweets from people who are pissed that I RT’ed their meme to add some hashtags instead of just directly retweeting their original Tweet. Citing their bogus idea of DMCA.

One guy even complained that I RT’ed his “original meme” which contained a Warner branded cartoon character.

107 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 4:25:02pm

Since the next couple of days are going to be a return to a blast of winter, I’m going to attempt something new: Sopa de Avena (Oatmeal Soup)

Gonna have to tinker with the ingredients, but I’ve got the oatmeal, chicken tenders, onion and potatoes, plus all of the necessary spices. I might have some frozen mixed veggies for the peas and carrots.

108 goddamnedfrank  Feb 25, 2015 4:26:23pm

re: #106 The Mother Of All Pies

Welp, I have received a couple of pissy Tweets from people who are pissed that I RT’ed their meme to add some hashtags instead of just directly retweeting their original Tweet. Citing their bogus idea of DMCA.

One guy even complained that I RT’ed his “original meme” which contained a Warner branded cartoon character.

My view is people shouldn’t post stuff on social media if they’re deeply interested in shit like ownership and attribution.

109 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 4:28:13pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

My view is people shouldn’t post stuff on social media if they’re deeply interested in shit like ownership and attribution.

It’s Twitter for fuck sake.

110 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 4:29:05pm
111 TedStriker  Feb 25, 2015 4:29:18pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

They do seem to be a bit more ready to take action against these assholes lately.

Baby steps…it’s nominally better than what they’ve been doing to this point.

112 TedStriker  Feb 25, 2015 4:31:24pm

re: #97 De Kolta Chair

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“Good artists copy, great artists make some crazy ass stuff.” — Pablo Picasso

113 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 4:32:00pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

Since the next couple of days are going to be a return to a blast of winter, I’m going to attempt something new: Sopa de Avena (Oatmeal Soup)

Gonna have to tinker with the ingredients, but I’ve got the oatmeal, chicken tenders, onion and potatoes, plus all of the necessary spices. I might have some frozen mixed veggies for the peas and carrots.

If Mr B is around tell him to suit up. Birmingham is well into a 10-hour ice storm.

114 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 25, 2015 4:33:29pm

re: #100 Kid A

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“Rabble-rousers not welcome!”

115 austin_blue  Feb 25, 2015 4:33:50pm

Off topic, but this happened to Madonna at the Brit Awards (UK Grammies) tonight:

vine.co

The cape was supposed to be whisked off, but, you know…

too much material, girl.

116 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 25, 2015 4:34:46pm

re: #113 Decatur Deb

If Mr B is around tell him to suit up. Birmingham is well into a 10-hour ice storm.

Yea… looks like I’m pretty much out of the storm system up here, maybe an inch of snow at the most. Did you make the mandatory “ZOMG!!!! Must get milk and bread” run?

RBS

117 electrotek  Feb 25, 2015 4:35:28pm

So now we have Iranian-American crackpots under the influence of Fox News saying that Sharia law is here in America:

(cnsnews.com) - Iranian American Lisa Daftari, an investigative journalist and contributor to Fox News, said on Friday that Sharia law is being followed by practitioners of radical Islam right here in the United States, even if many Americans think of the human rights abuses towards women by these practitioners as something that only takes place in the Middle East and Africa.

“And some might ask why should Americans care about what goes on in those countries?” asked Daftar, whose family fled Iran during the 1979 revolution that overthrew Mohammad Reza Pahlavi and established an Islamic state in the country. “How about tolerance for other practices; respect for Sharia law - the cultural and religious differences?

“Well the answer is it’s not just contained to that part of the world,” Daftari said. “It’s here.

Now what is it with the Iranian diaspora peddling such crap?

118 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 4:36:50pm

re: #116 RealityBasedSteve

Yea… looks like I’m pretty much out of the storm system up here, maybe an inch of snow at the most. Did you make the mandatory “ZOMG!!!! Must get milk and bread” run?

RBS

It’s from Montgomery north. Just nasty cold rain here.

119 Timothy Watson  Feb 25, 2015 4:37:14pm

re: #117 electrotek

So now we have Iranian-American crackpots under the influence of Fox News saying that Sharia law is here in America:

Now what is it with the Iranian diaspora peddling such crap?

Because only Muslims treat women like shIt.

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120 electrotek  Feb 25, 2015 4:38:11pm

re: #119 Timothy Watson

Because only Muslims treat women like shIt.

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You notice how when you bring up #gamergate or the Steubenville rape case they either run away or try to divert the topic?

121 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 4:38:42pm

re: #113 Decatur Deb

If Mr B is around tell him to suit up. Birmingham is well into a 10-hour ice storm.

yeah, we talked on Skype a little while ago. Mother Nature is feeling frisky…

122 electrotek  Feb 25, 2015 4:41:41pm

re: #119 Timothy Watson

Because only Muslims treat women like shIt.

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And if you bring up how the Republican Party wants to roll back rights for women in this country, they will say “at least they’re not being stoned to death”.

123 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 4:43:27pm

re: #115 austin_blue

Off topic, but this happened to Madonna at the Brit Awards (UK Grammies) tonight:

vine.co

The cape was supposed to be whisked off, but, you know…

too much material, girl.

No capes! /Edna Mode

124 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 4:44:10pm

re: #117 electrotek

So now we have Iranian-American crackpots under the influence of Fox News saying that Sharia law is here in America:

Now what is it with the Iranian diaspora peddling such crap?

Seriously? You must not know too many Iranians. Many of the ones I knew who had to leave Iran because of the revolution were very anti-religion—i.e. most still considered themselves Muslim, but they had an intense hatred for the mullahs, pasdaran, etc.

125 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 4:44:37pm
126 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 4:45:52pm

re: #101 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

The 14 Most Unintentionally Terrifying Statues in the World

One of those statues is 30 miles from here. We’re cosmopolitan !!!

127 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 4:47:01pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Further proof that cats are a liquid.

128 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 4:47:10pm
129 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 4:48:00pm
130 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 25, 2015 4:48:50pm

“They all look the same.”

131 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 4:49:24pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeah, we talked on Skype a little while ago. Mother Nature is feeling frisky…

We need a skype-like feature for LGF so we could see and hear each other.

132 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 4:50:13pm

re: #131 b_sharp

We need a skype-like feature for LGF so we could see and hear each other.

No, that’s ok. I’m quite happy for my voice to be text.

(I HATE how I sound.)

133 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 4:50:14pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

What if @JamesOKeefeIII released a new bombshell sting video and not even Breitbart “News” covered it?

…would it make a sound?

134 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 4:51:25pm

re: #131 b_sharp

We need a skype-like feature for LGF so we could see and hear each other.

Yu dont vont tu heer me.

135 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 4:51:52pm

re: #132 klys (maker of Silmarils)

No, that’s ok. I’m quite happy for my voice to be text.

(I HATE how I sound.)

Chicken.

I hate how I look, but I’m willing.

136 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 4:52:26pm

re: #131 b_sharp

We need a skype-like feature for LGF so we could see and hear each other.

Witness Protection Program says: “No”.

137 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 4:52:34pm

re: #134 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Yu dont vont tu heer me.

Accent, shmackcent.

I’m frikken Canuckian, eh.

138 nines09  Feb 25, 2015 4:53:42pm
Holy Cow!

And it’s 45 degrees Fahrenheit in that room….

139 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 25, 2015 4:54:13pm

re: #131 b_sharp

We need a skype-like feature for LGF so we could see and hear each other.

That would mean that we would have to wear clothes.

RBS

140 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 4:54:20pm
Catnuts?
141 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 4:54:35pm

re: #137 b_sharp

Accent, shmackcent.

I’m frikken Canuckian, eh.

Tell more aboot that.

142 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 4:54:47pm

re: #132 klys (maker of Silmarils)

No, that’s ok. I’m quite happy for my voice to be text.

(I HATE how I sound.)

So do I, but I’d much rather talk than type.

143 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 4:54:52pm

In the harp recording I did on Monday I asked my harp teacher if she was ok at the very end of the recording (she had a pretty serious coughing fit happening) and you can just barely hear a little bit of my voice and it reminds me why I HATES IT.

In today’s far far too complicated for what I actually achieved accomplishment (thank god for Stack Overflow):

The lists scroll and are embedded in a scroll view! I need to figure out what to do about that big black title bar.
144 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 4:55:03pm

re: #135 b_sharp

Chicken.

I hate how I look, but I’m willing.

I’m afraid the sight of me would immediately suppress everyone’s appetites. That’d be the end of the recipe, food and pie discussions ;)

145 electrotek  Feb 25, 2015 4:55:44pm

re: #124 CuriousLurker

Seriously? You must not know too many Iranians. Many of the ones I knew who had to leave Iran because of the revolution were very anti-religion—i.e. most still considered themselves Muslim, but they had an intense hatred for the mullahs, pasdaran, etc.

I moved out of Los Angeles with my family 20 years ago. I know a few in Dallas who do have hatred towards their government, but they’re not stupid enough to be kissing ass to Republicans who wouldn’t give a damn about their well-being. But they’re the exception, rather the norm. The norm is that they think they are somehow more “modern” and more “liberal” because they have a superiority complex and can’t get over the fact that the Arab invasion happened 1400 years ago. They hate Islam yet have no problem quoting poetry from prominent Persian Muslims such as Rumi or Hafez or Omar Khayyam.

Also, the likelihood of an Iranian Anders Breivik is much higher than with other diasporas that hail from nominally Muslim communities, given how many in the diaspora view themselves as “Patriots” while expressing hatred of Muslims.

146 austin_blue  Feb 25, 2015 4:56:06pm

re: #31 Kid A

Not one person was ever charged, indicted and sent to prison.

Yes, and Morgan Stanley will more than likely never have to pay a dime to the folks they swindled.

*spit*

147 Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2015 4:56:28pm

re: #140 De Kolta Chair

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I’m always impressed when people can show that level of creativity, but them I feel bad about eating them because it feels like I’m destroying a piece of art.

148 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 4:56:31pm

re: #135 b_sharp

Chicken.

I hate how I look, but I’m willing.

sent you a twitter DM. Let’s try it!

149 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 4:56:43pm

Speaking of food, the pasta with bacon, shredded Brussels Sprouts, and lemon zest came out really well last night. And I say that as someone normally skeptical about Brussels Sprouts.

The baked zucchini sticks were ok, but probably needed a little more time under the broiler. The broiler and I are working out how to get along (and how it works).

150 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 4:56:47pm

re: #131 b_sharp

We need a skype-like feature for LGF so we could see and hear each other.

We would always appear to be looking at each others boobs.

151 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 4:56:52pm

Which reminds me - I hope The War TARDIS is OK.

152 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 4:57:45pm
153 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 4:57:46pm

re: #139 RealityBasedSteve

That would mean that we would have to wear clothes.

RBS

Why?

154 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 25, 2015 4:57:56pm

re: #151 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Which reminds me - I hope The War TARDIS is OK.

Is there a specific reason for concern?

155 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 4:58:31pm

re: #154 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

He hasn’t been around lately.

156 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 4:58:38pm

re: #153 b_sharp

Why?

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

We would always appear to be looking at each others boobs.

157 austin_blue  Feb 25, 2015 4:59:25pm

re: #133 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

…would it make a sound?

Yes, sorta like a Mexican motorcycle:

CABRON!!! CABRON!!! CABRON!!!

putaputaputaputa….

158 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 4:59:39pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

sent you a twitter DM. Let’s try it!

Can we hang on till the weekend when I’m not building a server?

159 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 5:00:23pm

re: #153 b_sharp

Why?

Well, we can prolly get away without wearing pants…just keep the camera at face height.

160 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:00:25pm

Phew all that history channel watching paid off with final jeopardy tonight.

161 b_sharp  Feb 25, 2015 5:00:36pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

We would always appear to be looking at each others boobs.

My boobs are great. I would expect people to be mesmerized by them.

162 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 5:00:42pm

re: #158 b_sharp

Can we hang on till the weekend when I’m not building a server?

no prob.

163 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 5:00:57pm

re: #147 Targetpractice

I’m always impressed when people can show that level of creativity, but them I feel bad about eating them because it feels like I’m destroying a piece of art.

But it’s their nature to be eaten and enjoyed. At least that’s what I tell myself ;)

164 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:01:49pm

re: #163 A Cranky One

But it’s there nature to be eaten and enjoyed. At least that’s what I tell myself ;)

I was going to say I wanted one but I just remembered I got milk yesterday so I can break into the box of the Samoas. SCORE.

165 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:02:34pm

re: #145 electrotek

Yeah, the anti-Arab bigotry can be really bad. I remember one guy from Isfahan taught me this little bit of rhyming Farsi snark:

Arab-e biyabaan malakh mikhorad,
Sag-e Isfahan aab-e yakh mikhorad.

The Arab of the desert eats locusts,
The dog of Isfahan drinks ice water.

The guy that told it to me thought it was too funny.

166 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:04:58pm

re: #151 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Hmm, yeah, he’s been MIA hasn’t he?

167 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 5:05:06pm

re: #147 Targetpractice

I’m always impressed when people can show that level of creativity, but them I feel bad about eating them because it feels like I’m destroying a piece of art.

I understand that, but paraphrasing Lidia Bastianich, mangiare tutti dell’arte!

168 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 5:06:18pm

re: #164 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I was going to say I wanted one but I just remembered I got milk yesterday so I can break into the box of the Samoas. SCORE.

Looks around for cookies, finds none. ;(

169 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:06:33pm

Skype will always feel weird until they figure out a way to invisibly embed a camera in the screen.

170 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 5:06:50pm

re: #165 CuriousLurker

Yeah, the anti-Arab bigotry can be really bad. I remember one guy fomr Isfahan taught me this little bit of rhyming Farsi snark:

The guy that told it to me thought it was too funny.

That’s hilarious!

(Huh?)

171 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:06:51pm

re: #168 A Cranky One

Looks around for cookies, finds none. ;(

I’ll eat one for you.

172 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 5:06:55pm

re: #166 CuriousLurker

I hope he’s just taking a break from online.

173 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 5:06:59pm

re: #165 CuriousLurker

Yeah, the anti-Arab bigotry can be really bad. I remember one guy fomr Isfahan taught me this little bit of rhyming Farsi snark:

The guy that told it to me thought it was too funny.

Did you look at him like he was crazy?
Cause that don’t make no sense.
Seriously though, I do find it interesting to see what constitutes humor or what’s considered insulting in other cultures.

174 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:07:11pm

re: #168 A Cranky One

Looks around for cookies, finds none. ;(

Tell me about it. I just ate my banana, and now there’s nothing left to eat.

175 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:07:43pm

re: #168 A Cranky One

Looks around for cookies, finds none. ;(

I have some graham crackers. I don’t keep cookies around because I’ll eat them, heh.

176 electrotek  Feb 25, 2015 5:08:00pm

re: #165 CuriousLurker

Yeah, the anti-Arab bigotry can be really bad. I remember one guy fomr Isfahan taught me this little bit of rhyming Farsi snark:

The guy that told it to me thought it was too funny.

It’s not just anti-Arab bigotry. It’s straight up anti-Muslim bigotry. They seriously think they are superior to others because of their past civilizations they brought up.

Look, I’m proud of my Indo-Persian roots as much as they are, but I’m not going to look down on my Islamic heritage while gloating about pre-Islamic heritage. I can be proud of both, to the dismay of the Salafis and the pan-Iranian crackpots who keep gloating about past glories.

And yes, Arabs can be just as horrible with their anti-Persian bigotry as well, and it will always keep going on and on and on. It didn’t stop for hundreds of years and it won’t stop any time soon.

177 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 5:08:36pm

For our architect/engineer fans, this is on PBS locally at 8:

pbs.org

178 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:08:42pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

That’s hilarious!

(Huh?)

Yeah, apparently Isfahani dogs are better off than Arabs.

179 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 5:08:57pm

re: #164 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Haven’t seen an update lately on your current cross stitch project. Any progress?

180 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 5:09:34pm

LOL who do you think BUILT the Internet, dipshits?

181 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:09:44pm

re: #176 electrotek

It’s not just anti-Arab bigotry. It’s straight up anti-Muslim bigotry. They seriously think they are superior to others because of their past civilizations they brought up.

Look, I’m proud of my Indo-Persian roots as much as they are, but I’m not going to look down on my Islamic heritage while gloating about pre-Islamic heritage. I can be proud of both, to the dismay of the Salafis and the pan-Iranian crackpots who keep gloating about past glories.

And yes, Arabs can be just as horrible with their anti-Persian bigotry as well, and it will always keep going on and on and on. It didn’t stop for hundreds of years and it won’t stop any time soon.

Yep, I can’t argue with any of that.

182 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:09:59pm

re: #172 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I hope he’s just taking a break from online.

Me too.

183 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:10:12pm

re: #180 The Mother Of All Pies

LOL who do you think BUILT the Internet, dipshits?

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That’s really the narrative they’re going with? Fail.

184 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:10:16pm

re: #179 A Cranky One

Haven’t seen an update lately on your current cross stitch project. Any progress?

This is a few days old but there’s not that much progress since then. I am in a bit of a slower spell on it at the moment.

185 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:10:23pm

re: #175 CuriousLurker

I have some graham crackers. I don’t keep cookies around because I’ll eat them, heh.

I don’t keep graham crackers around, because if there are no cookies around, I’ll eat those.

Speaking of eating, the Older Boy’s Girfriend came by last night, AFTER WORK, and made us brownies.

If they break up, we’ll keep HER.

186 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 5:10:36pm

re: #171 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ll eat one for you.

I hate to burden you, I know you’ve been busy.

187 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 5:10:44pm

re: #180 The Mother Of All Pies

Right in the spirit of “states’ rights”.

188 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:10:58pm

re: #182 CuriousLurker

Me too.

I feel bad for him because I know first hand how tough life with Asperger’s can be. He can be a bit strong-headed at times but at heart I think he’s a good kid.

189 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 5:10:59pm

I still have an unopened box of Thin Mints from last year.

No, I wasn’t being good…they were shoved in the back of the cupboard out of sight and mind.

Bet they’re still OK, though; let me check…

190 electrotek  Feb 25, 2015 5:11:56pm

re: #178 CuriousLurker

Yeah, apparently Isfahani dogs are better off than Arabs.

And is there any wonder why people like Saddam or the Salafis hold such hatred towards Persians?re: #181 CuriousLurker

Yep, I can’t argue with any of that.

And also, they get really upset if you tell them there’s no such thing as a full-blooded Persian as well. And it’s true, not even Cyrus the Great was full Persian and neither were the members of the Pahlavi family. Most of the ones who keep gloating about past Persian empires ironically have Azeri blood, and we all know how Persians think about Turks in general.

191 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 5:12:11pm

re: #178 CuriousLurker

Yeah, apparently Isfahani dogs are better off than Arabs.

Old rivalries die hard. There is still a proverb in Florence:
“Better a death in the family than a Pisan on the doorstep”.

192 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:12:21pm

After all my talk of cookies I am being good and eating a banana.

193 PhillyPretzel  Feb 25, 2015 5:12:28pm

re: #177 Decatur Deb

Thanks. On my local station it is on at 9.

194 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 25, 2015 5:12:48pm

re: #180 The Mother Of All Pies

LOL who do you think BUILT the Internet, dipshits?

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I’ve seen a lot of “Obama-Net” stuff floating around the last few days. I think that’s their ‘go-to’ meme builder.

RBS

195 austin_blue  Feb 25, 2015 5:12:52pm

re: #187 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Right in the spirit of “states’ rights”.

And “Don’t let the Government mess with my Medicare!”

196 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:13:05pm

re: #192 klys (maker of Silmarils)

After all my talk of cookies I am being good and eating a banana.

So you SAY….

197 electrotek  Feb 25, 2015 5:13:09pm

re: #191 Decatur Deb

Old rivalries die hard. There is still a proverb in Florence:
“Better a death in the family than a Pisan on the doorstep”.

Except in the case of Iranians in the West, hating on Arabs and Muslims gets them a foot in the door when it comes to the opportunity of displaying themselves as the more “civilized” of the bunch.

198 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 5:13:46pm

re: #165 CuriousLurker

I think it sounded better in the original Klingon. /////

199 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:13:56pm

re: #196 Blind Frog Belly White

So you SAY….

200 austin_blue  Feb 25, 2015 5:13:59pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

I still have an unopened box of Thin Mints from last year.

No, I wasn’t being good…they were shoved in the back of the cupboard out of sight and mind.

Bet they’re still OK, though; let me check…

Don’t worry, the year eat-by date is 5 figures.

201 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 5:14:48pm

re: #184 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Stitching and hockey. A natural pair. I’ve seen a few stitched hockey players ;)

202 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:14:51pm

The trick is separating pride from pride in my culture means I’m better than you. That’s why I stick my ancestral pride when it comes to things like food, drink, and music.

203 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 5:15:02pm
204 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 5:15:05pm

re: #190 electrotek

Or maybe it’s better to leave the generalizations of what group with what amount of which “blood” allegedly “thinks” what?

205 austin_blue  Feb 25, 2015 5:15:30pm

re: #191 Decatur Deb

Old rivalries die hard. There is still a proverb in Florence:
“Better a death in the family than a Pisan on the doorstep”.

From my Irish granny:

“Better a bastard in the family than an Englishman.”

206 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:15:34pm

re: #199 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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The best fruit seriously. I try to have one daily if possible.

207 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:15:52pm

re: #199 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Well, okay. THIS time….

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208 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:16:58pm

re: #191 Decatur Deb

Old rivalries die hard. There is still a proverb in Florence:
“Better a death in the family than a Pisan on the doorstep”.

I first read that as ‘a Paisan on the doorstep’

209 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:17:23pm

re: #201 A Cranky One

It makes great background noise.

I have BUF versus CBJ from yesterday going right now as I work on the program.

210 Lidane  Feb 25, 2015 5:17:32pm

re: #180 The Mother Of All Pies

LOL who do you think BUILT the Internet, dipshits?

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ROFL. That’s up there with KEEP YER GUBMINT HANDS OFF MAH MEDICARE! for stupidity.

211 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 5:17:42pm

re: #208 Blind Frog Belly White

I first read that as ‘a Paisan on the doorstep’

At least not a pissant…

212 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 5:17:54pm

re: #208 Blind Frog Belly White

I first read that as ‘a Paisan on the doorstep’

As long as the paisan isn’t from Pisa.

213 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 5:17:56pm

re: #192 klys (maker of Silmarils)

After all my talk of cookies I am being good and eating a banana.

I could be good, if I had a banana.
But I don’t…

214 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 5:18:24pm

If you can find Brussels sprouts on the stalk, they’re really much better than the usual.

215 austin_blue  Feb 25, 2015 5:18:46pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

The best fruit seriously. I try to have one daily if possible.

Bananas are my favorite. They have appeal.

216 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:18:47pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

I could be good, if I had a banana.
But I don’t…

Then the way forward is clear!

I’m all trying to focus on healthy eating and shit, which means that a whole box of Samoas really wouldn’t be the best idea.

Even if it would taste damn good.

217 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:19:05pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

If you can find Brussels sprouts on the stalk, they’re really much better than the usual.

And if you can’t, well, bacon makes a lot of things much, much better.

218 calochortus  Feb 25, 2015 5:19:07pm

re: #180 The Mother Of All Pies

LOL who do you think BUILT the Internet, dipshits?

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Apparently Rush Limbaugh has been telling people that because net neutrality will mean the internet is a utility and if you have a website you will have to buy a license from the government.

219 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:19:39pm

I’ve started to eat more fish. I know I’l never go completely vegetarian but I don’t have to eat just meat either.

220 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:20:02pm

re: #218 calochortus

Apparently Rush Limbaugh has been telling people that because net neutrality will mean the internet is a utility and if you have a website you will have to buy a license from the government.

But hey, Brian Williams may have exaggerated his war story.

221 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:20:26pm

re: #219 HappyWarrior

I’ve started to eat more fish. I know I’l never go completely vegetarian but I don’t have to eat just meat either.

Some people will abhor this but I do tilapia coated with corn meal mixed with Old Bay and then pan fried. It’s fantastic fish for people who don’t like fish.

Like me.

222 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:20:55pm

re: #218 calochortus

Apparently Rush Limbaugh has been telling people that because net neutrality will mean the internet is a utility and if you have a website you will have to buy a license from the government.

I guess telling people that it was designed to force conservative websites to provide a liberal opinion for balance wasn’t working so that’s the line they’re going with. The people bitching most about net neutrality have really no idea what it means. They just know they hate who’s for it: Obama. If Obama opposed it, they would be for it.

223 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 5:21:04pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

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Yummy. Lately, my wife has been peeling and taking them apart them and then broiling them, sometimes ‘til they’re soft and sometimes ‘til they’re crunchy, depending on her mood.

Ten years ago I wouldn’t go near a sprout. Now I love ‘em.

224 calochortus  Feb 25, 2015 5:21:19pm

re: #220 Blind Frog Belly White

But hey, Brian Williams may have exaggerated his war story.

And that’s all that really matters, isn’t it?

225 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 5:21:31pm

re: #216 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Then the way forward is clear!

I’m all trying to focus on healthy eating and shit, which means that a whole box of Samoas really wouldn’t be the best idea.

Even if it would taste damn good.

BTW, our mutual friend in Dublin will be in SF in August.

226 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:22:01pm

re: #221 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Some people will abhor this but I do tilapia coated with corn meal mixed with Old Bay and then pan fried. It’s fantastic fish for people who don’t like fish.

Like me.

We’ve discussed the virtues of Old Bay before. And yes Tilapia is great fish for those who don’t like fish. I’ve been making my own tartar sauce lately. The usual mayo and relish but I’ve been adding Old Bay and some lemon juice.

227 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 5:22:05pm

Freud should have had a field day with some Christian art.

Image: tumblr_ljqdomE0uT1qggdq1.jpg

228 Lidane  Feb 25, 2015 5:22:19pm

re: #215 austin_blue

Bananas are my favorite. They have appeal.

Strawberries + bananas + Nutella = bliss.

229 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 5:22:22pm

re: #221 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Some people will abhor this but I do tilapia coated with corn meal mixed with Old Bay and then pan fried. It’s fantastic fish for people who don’t like fish.

Like me.

Wrap it in wet paper-thin cedar sheet and give it 10 minutes on the grill.

230 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 5:22:26pm

re: #209 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It makes great background noise.

I have BUF versus CBJ from yesterday going right now as I work on the program.

No vicarious thrill from the occasional check or high stick? Always cathartic during political discussions. ;)

231 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:22:44pm

re: #173 OhNoZombies!

Did you look at him like he was crazy?
Cause that don’t make no sense.
Seriously though, I do find it interesting to see what constitutes humor or what’s considered insulting in other cultures.

I see you read my response to Charles. Oone of the epithets they use for Arabs is malakh-khor which literally means “locust eater”. There actually are Arabs that eat locusts—including “Iranian Arabs” from the western (Iraqi) side of Iran.

A guy I knew from Abadan told me how they used to have these locust invasions every so often (we’re talking biblical proportions here) and how his mom & the other women would go up on the rooftops and use their chadors to catch them. Then they’d get roasted, salted & eaten, like sunflower seeds or pistachios.

Anyway, so it was kind of like, “Eww, disgusting locust-eating Arabs. We’re ever so much more sophisticated than them.

Gosh, I hadn’t thought about any of this in ages. Funny what you remember.

So did that kill everyone’s appetite? //

232 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 5:22:47pm
233 calochortus  Feb 25, 2015 5:22:50pm

re: #223 De Kolta Chair

Yummy. Lately, my wife has been peeling and taking them apart them and then broiling them, sometimes ‘til their soft and sometimes ‘til their crunchy, depending on her mood.

Ten years ago I wouldn’t go near a sprout. Now I love ‘em.

My husband doesn’t much like them. Since there aren’t a whole lot of things he doesn’t eat, I try to respect his preference. Even if they can be tasty to some of us.

234 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:22:54pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

I guess telling people that it was designed to force conservative websites to provide a liberal opinion for balance wasn’t working so that’s the line they’re going with. The people bitching most about net neutrality have really no idea what it means. They just know they hate who’s for it: Obama. If Obama opposed it, they would be for it.

This sentence can be reconfigured over and over and still be true. Simply replace ‘Net neutrality’ with anything Obama has said anything good about.

235 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:23:14pm

re: #230 A Cranky One

No vicarious thrill from the occasional check or high stick? Always cathartic during political discussions. ;)

I plead the fifth. >.>

236 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 5:23:16pm

re: #221 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Some people will abhor this but I do tilapia coated with corn meal mixed with Old Bay and then pan fried. It’s fantastic fish for people who don’t like fish.

Like me.

I do the same, but I add a little lemon pepper.

237 calochortus  Feb 25, 2015 5:23:36pm

re: #228 Lidane

Strawberries + bananas + Nutella = bliss.

Sounds healthy.
/

238 ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2015 5:23:59pm

Anyone watching the Pres at his Florida Town Hall?

I don’t know how long this was scheduled…but it is pretty good timing considering the GOP congress is currently choking on immigration.

He keeps stabbing congress…

239 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:24:36pm

re: #234 Blind Frog Belly White

This sentence can be reconfigured over and over and still be true. Simply replace ‘Net neutrality’ with anything Obama has said anything good about.

Yeah, that goes without saying. I mean his health care plan is what their nominee pushed and got passed as governor of Massachusetts and it resembles what Heritage and the GOP Congress pushed in response to Clinton’s plan in the early 90’s. But yet Obamacare is awful because not a “single Republican voted for it”, yeah because they’re hypocritical assholes. ACA would have been too conservative for Nixon.

240 Romantic Heretic  Feb 25, 2015 5:24:46pm

re: #10 Kragar

I made the mistake of reading the comments. Jesus H. Christ. I haven’t seen that much insanity since I was under psychiatric care myself.

241 Lidane  Feb 25, 2015 5:25:11pm

re: #237 calochortus

Sounds healthy.
/

It’s not. But it makes for a great dessert. :)

242 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:25:24pm

re: #236 OhNoZombies!

I do the same, but I add a little lemon pepper.

I’ll have to keep that in mind.

I’m trying to branch out slowly from it but really I am not fond of fishy fish.

Mr. klys, on the other hand, eats peppered mackerel.

243 goddamnedfrank  Feb 25, 2015 5:26:18pm

re: #117 electrotek

So now we have Iranian-American crackpots under the influence of Fox News saying that Sharia law is here in America:

Now what is it with the Iranian diaspora peddling such crap?

She’s sells Christian victimhood for a living.

Lisa’s areas of expertise and coverage include the Middle East and North Africa, terrorism, national security, the Arab Spring, global Christian persecution, human rights, cyber security and more.

244 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 5:26:21pm

re: #238 ObserverArt

Anyone watching the Pres at his Florida Town Hall?

I don’t know how long this was scheduled…but it is pretty good timing considering the GOP congress is currently choking on immigration.

He keeps stabbing congress…

And that town hall was in close proximity, relatively speaking, to CPAC.

heh.

245 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 5:26:27pm

re: #231 CuriousLurker

I wouldn’t eat locusts (even with honey), but neither are they yucky. What I do wonder about is, Muhammad was an Arab - how do they deal with it?

Though perhaps I shouldn’t wonder, given that Jesus and Mary being Jewish didn’t really mean anything to Christian antisemites…

246 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 5:27:08pm
247 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:27:45pm

re: #190 electrotek

And is there any wonder why people like Saddam or the Salafis hold such hatred towards Persians?

And also, they get really upset if you tell them there’s no such thing as a full-blooded Persian as well. And it’s true, not even Cyrus the Great was full Persian and neither were the members of the Pahlavi family. Most of the ones who keep gloating about past Persian empires ironically have Azeri blood, and we all know how Persians think about Turks in general.

Oh yeah, Turks too, Definitely.

They have a wonderful culture in terms of art, literature, food, etc. but I can do without the condescension.

248 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 5:27:49pm

Sometimes Twitter can be a giant pain in the ass.

249 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 5:27:50pm

re: #231 CuriousLurker

I see you read my response to Charles. Oone of the epithets they use for Arabs is malakh-khor which literally means “locust eater”. There actually are Arabs that eat locusts—including “Iranian Arabs” from the western (Iraqi) side of Iran.

A guy I knew from Abadan told me how they used to have these locust invasions every so often (we’re talking biblical proportions here) and how his mom & the other women would go up on the rooftops and use their chadors to catch them. Then they’d get roasted, salted & eaten, like sunflower seeds or pistachios.

Anyway, so it was kind of like, “Eww, disgusting locust-eating Arabs. We’re ever so much more sophisticated than them.

Gosh, I hadn’t thought about any of this in ages. Funny what you remember.

So did that kill everyone’s appetite? //

Oh no…no.
(Throws out sunflower seeds and pistachios)

250 Teukka  Feb 25, 2015 5:28:08pm

re: #240 Romantic Heretic

I made the mistake of reading the comments. Jesus H. Christ. I haven’t seen that much insanity since I was under psychiatric care myself.

I was wondering if it was just me… Been there, done that, and as of late, it has more and more often struck me that there apparently is some Acquired Mental Disorder pandemic going on in Wingnuttia, more and more them appear major league unwell to me these days.

*SMH*

251 Timothy Watson  Feb 25, 2015 5:28:51pm

re: #245 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I wouldn’t eat locusts (even with honey), but neither are they yucky. What I do wonder about is, Muhammad was an Arab - how do they deal with it?

Though perhaps I shouldn’t wonder, given that Jesus and Mary being Jewish didn’t really mean anything to Christian antisemites…

I am sure they have a conspiracy theory to square that circle. I remember reading that some Hindus claim that the Taj Mahal was built by Hindus instead of a Muslim Mughal emperor.

252 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:29:35pm

re: #249 OhNoZombies!

Oh no…no.
(Throws out sunflower seeds and pistachios)

Never could get into sunflower seeds and that’s with a childhood of Little League.

253 ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2015 5:29:35pm

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that town hall was in close proximity, relatively speaking, to CPAC.

heh.

He seems firmly confident in the legality of his executive action. And he is poking the Repubs in the eye with that legality.

Has the internet complaining about his circumnavigating the constitution gotten underway yet?

254 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:29:46pm

re: #242 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ll have to keep that in mind.

I’m trying to branch out slowly from it but really I am not fond of fishy fish.

Mr. klys, on the other hand, eats peppered mackerel.

Sardine?

Sardine?
255 electrotek  Feb 25, 2015 5:29:54pm

re: #243 goddamnedfrank

She’s sells Christian victimhood for a living.

Except she comes from a family of Iranian Jews. Which is the weird part for her to sell Christian victimhood often.

256 austin_blue  Feb 25, 2015 5:30:38pm

re: #248 Charles Johnson

Sometimes Twitter can be a giant pain in the ass.

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And yet, she took the time to respond?

(sshhh…stalker…)

257 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:30:43pm

re: #227 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Freud should have had a field day with some Christian art.

Image: tumblr_ljqdomE0uT1qggdq1.jpg

Oh gosh, last week I ran across an artist from… can’t remember… Germany? His work was like Hieronymus Bosch and from around the same time. It was really, really icky-scary-awful stuff.

258 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:31:03pm

re: #231 CuriousLurker

I see you read my response to Charles. Oone of the epithets they use for Arabs is malakh-khor which literally means “locust eater”. There actually are Arabs that eat locusts—including “Iranian Arabs” from the western (Iraqi) side of Iran.

A guy I knew from Abadan told me how they used to have these locust invasions every so often (we’re talking biblical proportions here) and how his mom & the other women would go up on the rooftops and use their chadors to catch them. Then they’d get roasted, salted & eaten, like sunflower seeds or pistachios.

Anyway, so it was kind of like, “Eww, disgusting locust-eating Arabs. We’re ever so much more sophisticated than them.

Gosh, I hadn’t thought about any of this in ages. Funny what you remember.

So did that kill everyone’s appetite? //

I have it, on mr. klys’s authority, that baby bee larva in teriyaki sauce are pretty awful.

If we’re engaging in appetite killing now.

259 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 5:31:11pm

re: #248 Charles Johnson

Sometimes Twitter can be a giant pain in the ass.

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260 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:31:38pm

re: #245 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I wouldn’t eat locusts (even with honey), but neither are they yucky. What I do wonder about is, Muhammad was an Arab - how do they deal with it?

Though perhaps I shouldn’t wonder, given that Jesus and Mary being Jewish didn’t really mean anything to Christian antisemites…

Exactly.

261 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 5:31:44pm

re: #231 CuriousLurker

I see you read my response to Charles. Oone of the epithets they use for Arabs is malakh-khor which literally means “locust eater”. There actually are Arabs that eat locusts—including “Iranian Arabs” from the western (Iraqi) side of Iran.

A guy I knew from Abadan told me how they used to have these locust invasions every so often (we’re talking biblical proportions here) and how his mom & the other women would go up on the rooftops and use their chadors to catch them. Then they’d get roasted, salted & eaten, like sunflower seeds or pistachios.

Anyway, so it was kind of like, “Eww, disgusting locust-eating Arabs. We’re ever so much more sophisticated than them.

Gosh, I hadn’t thought about any of this in ages. Funny what you remember.

So did that kill everyone’s appetite? //

I have been told that locusts are kosher but only if you have a direct generational tradition of eating them (only a certain tribe of Yemenite). That there is a certain species of locust that is kosher.

262 austin_blue  Feb 25, 2015 5:32:14pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

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That dog’s head is on upside down.

263 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 5:33:02pm

re: #257 CuriousLurker

There’s a great Bosch room in Prado.

Anyway, The Army of Darkness is totally a rip-off of Bruegel.

Image: Thetriumphofdeath.jpg

264 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 5:33:28pm

I remember when pistachios used to be dyed red.

265 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:33:41pm

re: #260 CuriousLurker

Exactly.

The knowledge of that is why some white supremacists hate Christianity and all the religions descended from Abraham. And there are the Christian Identity folks.

266 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:33:44pm

re: #258 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have it, on mr. klys’s authority, that baby bee larva in teriyaki sauce are pretty awful.

If we’re engaging in appetite killing now.

Or those tacos form Mexico made of some kind of insect larvae. Oh no, know Sergey is gonna talk about that horrible cheese from Sicily or Sardinia.

267 calochortus  Feb 25, 2015 5:34:00pm

re: #258 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have it, on mr. klys’s authority, that baby bee larva in teriyaki sauce are pretty awful.

If we’re engaging in appetite killing now.

Deep fried moths packed in oil: Not crispy. The icky oily taste lasts and lasts.

268 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:34:01pm

re: #264 The Mother Of All Pies

I remember when pistachios used to be dyed red.

Yeah. I could never understand how red nuts made green ice cream.

269 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 5:34:16pm

My ability to refrain from acerbic comments is being sorely tested today.

270 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:35:28pm

re: #249 OhNoZombies!

Oh no…no.
(Throws out sunflower seeds and pistachios)

LOL

271 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:35:34pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

Or thos tacos form Mexico made of some kind of insect larvae. Oh no, know Sergey is gonna talk about that horrible cheese from Sicily or Sardinia.

One of my favorite photos from our trip to Mexico (first international trip I did with mr. klys) is of him sitting in the hotel restaurant with a plate of spaghetti bolognese in front of him. Normally he is such an adventurous eater, but we were both recovering from salmonella and it was really our first solid meal in 3 days.

272 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 5:36:02pm

re: #245 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I wouldn’t eat locusts (even with honey), but neither are they yucky. What I do wonder about is, Muhammad was an Arab - how do they deal with it?

Though perhaps I shouldn’t wonder, given that Jesus and Mary being Jewish didn’t really mean anything to Christian antisemites…

still a lot of denial on this point:

“so jesus was jewish, right?”

“well, he was born jewish”

“ahh no remember in the gospels where it says he did everything necessary for passover right before they have the last supper? so, he was practising judaism right up until the end”

“umm..”

“right??”

“um ok yeah i guess”

273 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:36:10pm

re: #269 Charles Johnson

My ability to refrain from acerbic comments is being sorely tested today.

I have buried myself in code, hockey, and food discussion. It’s helping.

274 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 5:36:33pm

The family and I went down to Amish country during the summer, and the boys bought salt and vinegar crickets.
After they ate them, they were like, ooh, they taste like peanuts!
Gag. I almost took pictures, but was too grossed out.

275 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 5:36:49pm

re: #269 Charles Johnson

My ability to refrain from acerbic comments is being sorely tested today.

if your comments aren’t acerbic then they can be base

276 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 5:36:50pm

re: #266 CuriousLurker

Or thos tacos form Mexico made of some kind of insect larvae. Oh no, know Sergey is gonna talk about that horrible cheese from Sicily or Sardinia.

I forgot all about it, thanks for reminding me!

277 Romantic Heretic  Feb 25, 2015 5:37:04pm

re: #40 Kid A

Doesn’t making a track suit out of the flag count as desecration? Isn’t desecration of the flag illegal?

And they claim ‘libtards’ don’t respect the flag.

278 lawhawk  Feb 25, 2015 5:37:14pm

re: #269 Charles Johnson

I hear a nice chianti and fava beans might go well with roasted derp.

279 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:37:24pm

I’ve always understandably associated snails with France but they eat them in Portugal too. One of my nights in Libson, I did dinner and drinks with some people from the hostel and one of the natives got snails which weren’t bad honestly. The difference between how the Portugeuse eat the snails and how the French do is the French use butter while the Portuguese use a more hotter sauce.

280 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 5:37:30pm

re: #233 calochortus

My husband doesn’t much like them. Since there aren’t a whole lot of things he doesn’t eat, I try to respect his preference. Even if they can be tasty to some of us.

It might be an American guy thing, but I find many vegetables more appetizing if they’re prepared a bit crunchy. Excluding cabbage. I loath cabbage no matter how it is cooked.

281 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:37:46pm

re: #264 The Mother Of All Pies

I remember when pistachios used to be dyed red.

Have you ever eaten the ones form Iran? They’re usually ginormous and have a lemony flavor. I don’t know how they do it, but it’s yummy.

282 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:37:59pm

re: #278 lawhawk

I hear a nice chianti and fava beans might go well with roasted derp.

*Lecter teeth sound*

283 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:38:33pm

Man, I don’t know where she got it from but my cousin had the best hummus ever catered to her wedding. So tasty.

284 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:39:06pm

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Man, I don’t know where she got it from but my cousin had the best hummus ever catered to her wedding. So tasty.

We had AMAZING hummus in Key West from a little kosher restaurant.

I really want to go back and have more.

285 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:39:46pm

re: #274 OhNoZombies!

The family and I went down to Amish country during the summer, and the boys bought salt and vinegar crickets.
After they ate them, they were like, ooh, they taste like peanuts!
Gag. I almost took pictures, but was too grossed out.

Hahahahaha

286 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 5:40:29pm

re: #272 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

The preferred version is “well, he was born in Galilee and there were lots of non-Jews there, so there, he may have been Aryan”.

287 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:40:36pm

re: #276 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I forgot all about it, thanks for reminding me!

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Oh no. I am so NOT clicking on that video. Photos are bad enough!

288 calochortus  Feb 25, 2015 5:40:43pm

re: #280 De Kolta Chair

It might be an American guy thing, but I find many vegetables more appetizing if they’re prepared a bit crunchy. Excluding cabbage. I loath cabbage no matter how it is cooked.

Maybe that’s the problem. Cooked cabbage. Cabbage should be eaten raw as a general rule.

289 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:41:13pm

re: #284 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We had AMAZING hummus in Key West from a little kosher restaurant.

I really want to go back and have more.

My aunt and uncle lived down there for a while. Beautiful place.

290 austin_blue  Feb 25, 2015 5:41:40pm

re: #245 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I wouldn’t eat locusts (even with honey), but neither are they yucky. What I do wonder about is, Muhammad was an Arab - how do they deal with it?

Though perhaps I shouldn’t wonder, given that Jesus and Mary being Jewish didn’t really mean anything to Christian antisemites…

Well, they ain’t makin’ Jews like Jesus anymore:

291 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 5:41:44pm

re: #100 Kid A

Argentina heh? I would’ve sworn that was somewhere along the Penitentes route in New Mexico.

292 ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2015 5:41:46pm

re: #257 CuriousLurker

Oh gosh, last week I ran across an artist from… can’t remember… Germany? His work was like Hieronymus Bosch and from around the same time. It was really, really icky-scary-awful stuff.

CL…I am little surprised you are calling art “really, really icky-scary-awful stuff.”

Do you mean the content, or are you just generally against it being done because it is offensive?

Art is about everything…and in this case the time in history, the advancement of the arts and the societal and religious statements figure into why it was created.

The story of Garden of Earthly Delights by Bosch is a great example of why it is often mentioned in art history as a major piece.

Sometimes ‘ugly’ art can be the most beautiful.

293 Romantic Heretic  Feb 25, 2015 5:43:19pm

re: #50 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Reminds me of this little story from Oliver Sacks.

The summary says it all.

Here then was the paradox of the President’s speech. We normals - aided, doubtless, by our wish to be fooled, were indeed well and truly fooled (‘Populus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur’). And so cunningly was deceptive word-use combined with deceptive tone, that only the brain-damaged remained intact, undeceived.

294 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 5:43:26pm

re: #288 calochortus

Maybe that’s the problem. Cooked cabbage. Cabbage should be eaten raw as a general rule.

MMmmm. Colcannon

simplyrecipes.com

2 weeks until St. Patrick’s. Time to lay in the Guinness.

295 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 5:44:37pm

re: #277 Romantic Heretic

Doesn’t making a track suit out of the flag count as desecration? Isn’t desecration of the flag illegal?

And they claim ‘libtards’ don’t respect the flag.

296 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:44:47pm

re: #292 ObserverArt

CL…I am little surprised you are calling art “really, really icky-scary-awful stuff.”

Do you mean the content, or are you just generally against it being done because it is offensive?

Art is about everything…and in this case the time in history, the advancement of the arts and the societal and religious statements figure into why it was created.

The story of Garden of Earthly Delights by Bosch is a great example of why it is often mentioned in art history as a major piece.

Sometimes ‘ugly’ art can be the most beautiful.

I’m not against it being done, I just found the content really awful. I can’t imagine spending weeks or months (or however long it took those guys) to paint something so… depressingly unpleasant.

297 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 25, 2015 5:44:50pm

re: #265 HappyWarrior

The knowledge of that is why some white supremacists hate Christianity and all the religions descended from Abraham. And there are the Christian Identity folks.

There’s a whole palette of ways that antisemites have dealt with Christianity depending on Jewish Jesus. Most involved Jesus being a pure white Real Jew and all existing Jews be Not Real Jews. “Jews are really Khazars is invoked a lot.”

It has a habit of turning up on End Times sites as well as CI sites.

298 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:44:51pm

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Man, I don’t know where she got it from but my cousin had the best hummus ever catered to her wedding. So tasty.

Mrs. FBW and I are as pasty white, middle American looking as you can imagine. We went to a Lebanese restaurant, and ordered the appetizer platter. The waiter put it in front of us very snootily, and asked condescendingly, “Do you know what this is?”, pointing at the hummus.

Mrs. FBW cheerfully replied, “This is hummus, and that’s tabouleh, and this is baba ghanouj, and these are dolma!” The waiter seemed very pleased that we knew about these foods, and after that was considerably less snooty.

Right up until Mrs. FBW asked, “What do you call these peppers, they’re like pepperoncini?”

“Pepperoncini,” he replied, somewhat snootily.

299 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 5:45:28pm

Thin Mints box says “use or freeze before September 1, 2014”.

Imma living dangerously tonight.

300 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 5:47:05pm

re: #295 The Mother Of All Pies

Does it look like a ‘shop only to me?

301 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:47:06pm

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thin Mints box says “use or freeze before September 1, 2014”.

Imma living dangerously tonight.

Probably the only way they can hurt you is if you choke on them by eating them too fast.

302 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:47:12pm

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Man, I don’t know where she got it from but my cousin had the best hummus ever catered to her wedding. So tasty.

The best felafel I ever had was from an Israeli-owned restaurant in Little Neck, NY. Nom, nom, nom.

303 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:47:29pm

re: #298 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW and I are as pasty white, middle American looking as you can imagine. We went to a Lebanese restaurant, and ordered the appetizer platter. The waiter put it in front of us very snootily, and asked condescendingly, “Do you know what this is?”, pointing at the hummus.

Mrs. FBW cheerfully replied, “This is hummus, and that’s tabouleh, and this is baba ghanouj, and these are dolma!” The waiter seemed very pleased that we knew about these foods, and after that was considerably less snooty.

Right up until Mrs. FBW asked, “What do you call these peppers, they’re like pepperoncini?”

“Pepperoncini,” he replied, somewhat snootily.

Heh what a jerk. But what I love about hummus is how versatile it is. Finally tried my hand at homemade falafel a few weeks back and it was just great.

304 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 5:47:32pm

re: #296 CuriousLurker

I’m not against it being done, I just found the content really awful. I can’t imagine spending weeks or months (or however long it took those guys) to paint something so… depressingly unpleasant.

Painting Last Judgments and other hellscapes went easier if the artist adopted the figures from the local feudal lords/sponsors.

305 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 5:47:40pm

I have a great idea - I think I’ll just keep doing what I’m doing and not get drawn into pointless, debilitating, insanely counter-productive purity struggles with people who are constantly searching for ways to be offended.

306 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 5:47:55pm

re: #288 calochortus

Maybe that’s the problem. Cooked cabbage. Cabbage should be eaten raw as a general rule.

I feel that way about kale. My wife can cook some great kale, but I prefer it raw as a salad. Same with spinach. But cooked or raw, to me the operative word is Garlic!

307 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 5:48:04pm

re: #292 ObserverArt

My brother, an artist/photographer has created pieces that create a very visceral reaction. I can acknowledge they are good art and admire his work. But some of them I’d be happy to never see again.

308 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 5:48:08pm

re: #301 Blind Frog Belly White

Probably the only way they can hurt you is if you choke on them by eating them too fast.

I’m pacing myself.
Alternating the Thin Mints with Dove Almond dark chocolate bites…

309 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:48:40pm

re: #302 CuriousLurker

The best felafel I ever had was from an Israeli-owned restaurant in Little Neck, NY. Nom, nom, nom.

There’s a place in DC and it’s really unique since they accept Euros there but it’s like a falafel version of Chipolte. Pick a falafel sandwich and get your choice of a bunch of toppings. It’s so perfect because one of its locations is near one of my favorite bars and another location is near a favorite concert venue. So good after a night of music and barhopping.

310 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:48:45pm

re: #304 Decatur Deb

Painting Last Judgments and other hellscapes went easier if the artist adopted the figures from the local feudal lords/sponsors.

LOL

311 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:50:10pm

re: #300 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Does it look like a ‘shop only to me?

It’s the pixel sizes.

312 austin_blue  Feb 25, 2015 5:50:17pm

re: #305 Charles Johnson

I have a great idea - I think I’ll just keep doing what I’m doing and not get drawn into pointless, debilitating, insanely counter-productive purity struggles with people who are constantly searching for ways to be offended.

But they’ll be offended if you don’t try not to offend them, thus offending them!

313 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:50:33pm

re: #306 De Kolta Chair

I feel that way about kale. My wife can cook some great kale, but I prefer it raw as a salad. Same with spinach. But cooked or raw, to me the operative word is Garlic!

If I cook kale it absolutely cannot get soggy. I need some crunch.

I do a lemon Caesar kale salad that’s pretty tasty.

314 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:51:22pm

re: #303 HappyWarrior

Heh what a jerk. But what I love about hummus is how versatile it is. Finally tried my hand at homemade falafel a few weeks back and it was just great.

I suspect he’d had experience with pasty white, middle American looking people who turned up their noses at these things, rather than fighting over the last dollop of each.

315 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:51:35pm

re: #309 HappyWarrior

There’s a place in DC and it’s really unique since they accept Euros there but it’s like a falafel version of Chipolte. Pick a falafel sandwich and get your choice of a bunch of toppings. It’s so perfect because one of its locations is near one of my favorite bars and another location is near a favorite concert venue. So good after a night of music and barhopping.

This place had a sauce that was awesome. It was sort of sour but spicy—sorta like Pakistani mango pickles, if you’ve ever eaten those. It paired with the felafel really well.

316 HappyWarrior  Feb 25, 2015 5:53:07pm

re: #315 CuriousLurker

This place had a sauce that was awesome. It was sort of sour but spicy—sorta like Pakistani mango pickles, if you’ve ever eaten those. It paired with the felafel really well.

Haven’t had those but I have had Pakistani. There’s a nice place I found that gives you a good amount for good prices.

317 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 25, 2015 5:53:26pm

re: #303 HappyWarrior

Heh what a jerk. But what I love about hummus is how versatile it is. Finally tried my hand at homemade falafel a few weeks back and it was just great.

I was making a hero sandwich a while back, and on a whim I put a good schmear of red pepper hummus on the roll. NOM NOM NOM!!!!!

RBS

318 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:54:25pm

Dammit, I have all the fixings for hummus (even some middle eastern pickles and feta cheese for on the side), but I have no bread. Arrgh!

I do have some whole grain bagels though. Maybe those will work okay…

319 Kragar  Feb 25, 2015 5:54:54pm
320 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:54:59pm

re: #318 CuriousLurker

Dammit, I have all the fixings for hummus (even some middle eastern pickles and feta cheese for on the side), but I have no bread. Arrgh!

I do have some whole grain bagels though. Maybe those will work okay…

You are in an acceptable state for bagels. It should be ok.

321 goddamnedfrank  Feb 25, 2015 5:55:11pm

re: #300 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Does it look like a ‘shop only to me?

It’s not.

322 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 25, 2015 5:55:28pm

re: #313 klys (maker of Silmarils)

If I cook kale it absolutely cannot get soggy. I need some crunch.

I do a lemon Caesar kale salad that’s pretty tasty.

Portugese kale and potato soup - nom, nom, nom!

I first made it when Mrs. FBW bought an enormous bunch of Lacinato kale, but had no idea what to do with it. Even the boys will wolf it down like starving,… well, wolves.

323 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 5:56:08pm

re: #320 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You are in an acceptable state for bagels. It should be ok.

See what you guys did? I’m gonna go make hummus.

Later, lizards…

324 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 5:56:13pm

re: #312 austin_blue

But they’ll be offended if you don’t try not to offend them, thus offending them!

This isn’t easy for me. My impulse is to let ‘er rip.

325 #FergusonFireside  Feb 25, 2015 5:56:22pm

Chicken, yellow rice, mushrooms & cherry tomatoes with a lemon butter sauce.

Ya’ll made me so hungry.

326 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 5:56:35pm

re: #321 goddamnedfrank

Thanks. What a weird pic. Not the stepping part.

327 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 5:58:02pm

re: #324 Charles Johnson

This isn’t easy for me. My impulse is to let ‘er rip.

I say go for it. You can always use more stalkers ;) ////////////

All seriousness aside, we’re more fun anyway.

328 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 5:58:28pm

re: #327 A Cranky One

I say go for it. You can always use more stalkers ;)

All seriousness aside, we’re more fun anyway.

No, this particular purity battle is not worth getting into.

Really.

329 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 5:59:47pm

re: #313 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I do a lemon Caesar kale salad that’s pretty tasty.

Oh yes indeedy. We like that with a bit o’ feta.

330 goddamnedfrank  Feb 25, 2015 6:00:38pm

re: #326 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Everyone involved in the decision to make that happen was a total goddamned idiot. Wingnuts would be crapping themselves into life threatening dehydration if Obama did anything remotely similar.

331 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 6:01:21pm

re: #328 klys (maker of Silmarils)

No, this particular purity battle is not worth getting into.

Really.

I agree. Sometimes my sense of humor doesn’t translate well. Forgot the snark tags. For some reason I’m hungry, it’s a little distracting ;)

332 ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2015 6:02:51pm

re: #296 CuriousLurker

I’m not against it being done, I just found the content really awful. I can’t imagine spending weeks or months (or however long it took those guys) to paint something so… depressingly unpleasant.

I understand. But then the fact that it is depressing and unpleasant speaks to why some of that type of art was such a challenge for the time.

And what is ugly in the content is the artist painting many religious topics of the day trying to capture the frightening stuff that many religious texts contain.

Depicting some of the ‘judgement’ stories from the bible into visual forms was probably not a popular thing. They are not pretty. The fact artists of the late 15th century were starting to be ‘political’ in meaning was a dangerous thing to many.

I love art that may not be pretty, and is black in content as a powerful and beautiful statement. In a way I love art that can be a bit like guerrilla warfare or a strong protest song.

333 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 6:03:04pm

I still have to sort out dinner tonight. I didn’t make the grocery run to pick up what I forgot yesterday so either I beg the husband to fix this mistake or …I dunno.

Speaking of infighting and hockey:

334 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 6:04:05pm

re: #324 Charles Johnson

This isn’t easy for me. My impulse is to let ‘er rip.

Are you talking about the intersectionality thing?
I think I would probably let that one go.

335 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 6:04:47pm

re: #331 A Cranky One

I agree. Sometimes my sense of humor doesn’t translate well. Forgot the snark tags. For some reason I’m hungry, it’s a little distracting ;)

I can see that reading now, I’ve just been watching this battle stream by on my TL all day and it’s …really nasty, and there’s no way to speak up about it without making a mess of things.

No matter what you say it’s going to offend someone, and there’s an awful lot of refusal to assume good intentions on both sides.

336 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 6:05:46pm

re: #332 ObserverArt

So what do you think of Goya’s Black Paintings?

337 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 6:07:22pm

re: #335 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I can see that reading now, I’ve just been watching this battle stream by on my TL all day and it’s …really nasty, and there’s no way to speak up about it without making a mess of things.

No matter what you say it’s going to offend someone, and there’s an awful lot of refusal to assume good intentions on both sides.

It’s horrible. And I’m really disappointed and saddened by some of the people who are the most enthusiastic about attacking the heretics. Oh well.

338 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 25, 2015 6:08:21pm

re: #333 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Exhibit 100,397,297 for why even the deadly dullness of baseball or cricket is still more interesting than hockey.

339 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 6:08:45pm

re: #335 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I can see that reading now, I’ve just been watching this battle stream by on my TL all day and it’s …really nasty, and there’s no way to speak up about it without making a mess of things.

No matter what you say it’s going to offend someone, and there’s an awful lot of refusal to assume good intentions on both sides.

Lots of emotion and resentment that won’t be resolved on Twitter.

340 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 6:09:16pm

re: #338 William Barnett-Lewis

Exhibit 100,397,297 for why even the deadly dullness of baseball or cricket is still more interesting than hockey.

To each their own.

341 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 6:09:26pm

re: #321 goddamnedfrank

It’s not.

As we all know there are scads of ‘shopped Bush images out there. Take this one for example, which is actually Dubya’s head superimposed on a shot of Rudy Giuliani taken at his second mayoral inauguration:

342 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 6:09:48pm
343 prairiefire  Feb 25, 2015 6:11:45pm

re: #339 OhNoZombies!

Lots of emotion and resentment that won’t be resolved on Twitter.

I’ve been following Imani on Facebook. Lots of opinions.

344 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 6:11:49pm

re: #335 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I just don’t do Twitter or Facebook. The last thing I need is another source of aggravation. I appreciate having the essence distilled by folks here. So does my blood pressure.

345 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 25, 2015 6:13:39pm

re: #332 ObserverArt

I love art that may not be pretty, and is black in content as a powerful and beautiful statement. In a way I love art that can be a bit like guerrilla warfare or a strong protest song.

I certainly can agree with this so far as it goes. Done more than a bit of it over the years, especially as influenced by the far left and the punk movements.

That said, I find it far more pleasant to have a framed photo I took of a dandelion doing nothing but being a flowering plant in seed than even a great art work such as a print of Picasso’s Guernica. I get the feeling that CL is coming from someplace similar.

346 ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2015 6:15:36pm

re: #336 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

So what do you think of Goya’s Black Paintings?

I love Goya. I love the haunting drama of the light in many of his paintings. And if you squint your eyes to blur the detail (image)…the overall 2 dimensional designs of his work is very dynamic. Again…very political in nature which is a good way to document a time.

If someone like him was doing still lifes just think what the world would have missed…both his artistic styling and the content.

And his brushwork is also very good. A hell of a painter.

Paintings, drawing…hell…all good art can have many good things going on not just a surface story.

347 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 6:17:33pm

re: #344 A Cranky One

I just don’t do Twitter or Facebook. The last thing I need is another source of aggravation. I appreciate having the essence distilled by folks here. So does my blood pressure.

I follow some on Twitter, but very, very rarely interact. My Twitter is more for ramblings and cross stitch photos and cats and keeping up with a few friends.

Facebook is a strict no politics zone for me. You post political shit? You get moved to a list where I don’t see your updates. End of story.

348 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 6:19:56pm

re: #332 ObserverArt

I actually used to have a poster of Bosch’s Garden of Earthly Delights triptych. It’s an amazing, disturbing vision of medieval Christianity’s world view. I can understand why people might find it hard to deal with. It is.

349 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 6:20:58pm

re: #286 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

The preferred version is “well, he was born in Galilee and there were lots of non-Jews there, so there, he may have been Aryan”.

hmm i never heard that one - this despite the numerous and persistent references to the judaism of jesus all throughout the gospels?

i have very little of this training in not seeing things that are right in front of my eyes

also, did they really say ‘aryan’? the word is so utterly inapplicable to 1st century judea and galilee no matter how hard you torture it. i suppose they meant to say ‘gentile’…

350 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 6:21:14pm

Oh yes. Excellent.

351 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 6:21:19pm
Pardon my rank sexism, but Associate Justice Kagan can overrule me anytime.
352 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 6:22:01pm

re: #343 prairiefire

I’ve been following Imani on Facebook. Lots of opinions.

I follow her on Twitter, but I avoid politics.
Number one, because I have sketches I did of my kids on there, and number two, I think it does more harm than good in many instances.
I’d rather talk about new books.

353 goddamnedfrank  Feb 25, 2015 6:23:35pm

This one is actually true. Actually it’s white married women, but whatever. Mostly true:

This one, I don’t know. Kind of true? Only election that really springs to mind is Prop 8 in California, but I’ve actually heard it. The “politically disengaged / undervoting minority” is an actual meme on the left, regardless of its basis in reality:

This one, is it too much to ask that the “fuck up” be substantive? I mean, I totally get being irritated with Arquette’s clumsy wording, but there’s so much effort being made to turn stretched inferences into intentional implications:

This one, pretty much bullshit. There has got to be a way of demanding more attention without inventing exclusion:

This one, totes fucking retarded:

This whole intra-feminism race war doesn’t seem to be helping anybody. Just some unfocused rage / ideological purity bullshit.

354 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 6:23:40pm
355 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 6:23:40pm

re: #352 OhNoZombies!

I follow her on Twitter, but I avoid politics.
Number one, because I have sketches I did of my kids on there, and number two, I think it does more harm than good in many instances.
I’d rather talk about new books.

The thing with commenting on politics on Twitter is it invites lots of other people who you may or may not want to interact with the chance to jump on your comments.

I mean, to be fair that can happen anywhere on the Internet but Twitter is kind of uniquely suited to it and it can be a fire hose that I don’t want to deal with.

So. Cross stitch and cats and hockey and authors and geek stuff.

356 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 6:25:50pm

re: #349 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

I’m being a bit facetious, merging the two “theories”: “Aryan Jesus” and non-Jewish Galilean Jesus. Both exist and both come from the same milieu, so it’s safe to say that this amalgam exists too.

As for the clear NT references, there are obvious ways to deal with them. “They were inserted later!” and/or “Whatever the ritual side, he was racially non-Jewish and that’s what counts”.

357 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 6:26:07pm

re: #354 Charles Johnson

“Creton” is 2015’s “moran.”

They’re nice on salad.

358 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 6:26:16pm

re: #357 De Kolta Chair

Self-deleted for replying to myself, which I try to do only on Friday nights.

359 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 6:26:46pm

re: #337 Charles Johnson

It’s horrible. And I’m really disappointed and saddened by some of the people who are the most enthusiastic about attacking the heretics. Oh well.

Some people who were on my “WIN” list (of best Tweets to follow) are no longer winners.

360 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2015 6:27:28pm
361 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 6:27:49pm

re: #353 goddamnedfrank

Not touching it.
I can only speak for myself anyway.

362 ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2015 6:29:12pm

re: #345 William Barnett-Lewis

I certainly can agree with this so far as it goes. Done more than a bit of it over the years, especially as influenced by the far left and the punk movements.

That said, I find it far more pleasant to have a framed photo I took of a dandelion doing nothing but being a flowering plant in seed than even a great art work such as a print of Picasso’s Guernica. I get the feeling that CL is coming from someplace similar.

I like it all! I love to be challenged mentally the most though.

A flower is only a flower. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with cute, pretty, naive, simple, casual, or crafty.

My point is I hope people do not think that dark art is bad and should not be considered art. That is selling the human race short on the contemplation of all things. Let people see it all and be the judge.

A painting that makes people want to look away has real power. It is after all just some cloth and colors applied in a certain designed manner. The fact that something that on its own is completely non-threatening can draw out strong emotions is a hell of a tool. The fact that something can be talked about 500 years later is a great way for an artist to live on.

A great book, a great painting, a great piece of music that lives on is one hell of an achievement for an artist.

And with that…later Lizards. Keep on ‘em!

363 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 6:32:02pm

re: #257 CuriousLurker

Oh gosh, last week I ran across an artist from… can’t remember… Germany? His work was like Hieronymus Bosch and from around the same time. It was really, really icky-scary-awful stuff.

Just dropped back in to say I found the painting: Temptation of Saint Anthony by Matthias Grünewald. According to Wiikipedia, that was a popular theme. Several other artists painted it, including Bosch (at least twice—a triptych and a single panel). I’ll take Albrecht Dürer over those guys. *shudder*

Going back to my hummus now…

364 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 6:32:15pm
365 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 25, 2015 6:32:20pm

re: #363 CuriousLurker

Just dropped back in to say I found the painting: Temptation of Saint Anthony by Matthias Grünewald. According to Wiikipedia, that was a popular theme. Several other artists painted it, including Bosch (at least twice—a triptych and a single panel). I’ll take Albrecht Dürer over those guys. *shudder*

Going back to my hummus now…

Didn’t you bring enough to share?

/sadface

366 ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2015 6:32:39pm

re: #348 Charles Johnson

I actually used to have a poster of Bosch’s Garden of Earthly Delights triptych. It’s an amazing, disturbing vision of medieval Christianity’s world view. I can understand why people might find it hard to deal with. It is.

And that is exactly why it is a great painting.

By the way…think of all the vinyl album cover art made form different sections of that one piece. Or the overall influence it has had on graphic art.

Saw this on my way out…again…later.

367 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 6:34:33pm

re: #363 CuriousLurker

Well, I have a photo of a painting from Prado of some martyr being flayed alive. An anatomically correct painting, if you will. So that’s nuthin’ ;)

368 goddamnedfrank  Feb 25, 2015 6:35:15pm

re: #343 prairiefire

I’ve been following Imani on Facebook. Lots of opinions.

I love Imani, but there’s some really hardline inflexibility going on with this. Whatever, I’ll always be on the outside looking in when it comes to intersectionality. The movement is founded on obviously valid issues, but also seems to frequently define itself on the basis of constant opposition and conflict.

369 Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2015 6:35:40pm

Wisconsin republicans are right now, ramming right to work through an extraordinary session. MSM?

*crickets*

370 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 6:36:27pm

Sometimes your heart can be in the right place, but your head talks you out of it.

371 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 6:36:59pm

re: #367 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Well, I have a photo of a painting from Prado of some martyr being flayed alive. An anatomically correct painting, if you will. So that’s nuthin’ ;)

BTW, I hope you’ll be around this weekend. I’ve been meaning to ask you about Barcelona. My paternal ancestors were from there. It seems so… weird, but in a good way. Like a Dali painting some to life or something.

372 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 6:37:27pm

re: #366 ObserverArt

And that is exactly why it is a great painting.

By the way…think of all the vinyl album cover art made form different sections of that one piece. Or the overall influence it has had on graphic art.

Saw this on my way out…again…later.

373 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 6:38:16pm

re: #356 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I’m being a bit facetious, merging the two “theories”: “Aryan Jesus” and non-Jewish Galilean Jesus. Both exist and both come from the same milieu, so it’s safe to say that this amalgam exists too.

As for the clear NT references, there are obvious ways to deal with them. “They were inserted later!” and/or “Whatever the ritual side, he was racially non-Jewish and that’s what counts”.

jeesh

i guess i dont run into them types around here

this thing about “inserted later” would break the theory of the scriptures being inerrant and inspired by god even the translations

374 prairiefire  Feb 25, 2015 6:38:42pm

re: #352 OhNoZombies!

I would hope I could handle the conversation in person when it is easier to read other people, and I can keep talking until I get my foot out of my mouth!!

New books, yes!

375 CuriousLurker  Feb 25, 2015 6:38:46pm

re: #367 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Well, I have a photo of a painting from Prado of some martyr being flayed alive. An anatomically correct painting, if you will. So that’s nuthin’ ;)

P.S. You need to make a page (or pages) of the photos form your trip. Seriously.

376 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 6:40:25pm
377 Jenner7  Feb 25, 2015 6:47:43pm

How do you argue with people who believe that more US soldiers have died under Obama than Bush??

378 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 6:48:41pm

re: #377 Jenner7

How do you argue with people who believe that more US soldiers have died under Obama than Bush??

From a safe distance.

379 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 6:48:53pm

re: #377 Jenner7

How do you argue with people who believe that more US soldiers have died under Obama than Bush??

The same way you argue with solipsists. ////

380 Teukka  Feb 25, 2015 6:49:40pm

re: #376 Charles Johnson

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381 darthstar  Feb 25, 2015 6:50:32pm

CPAC rhymes with Tupac, so you can’t say they’re racist or that they think both of their African American members look alike.

382 goddamnedfrank  Feb 25, 2015 6:51:18pm

Here’s my point. If I agree with > 90% of what you’re saying, the remaining 10% or so has to be some really out there crazy hateful “Jews have horns” level fucked up bullshit for me to go to war with your ass on Twitter about.

383 Jenner7  Feb 25, 2015 6:51:47pm
384 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 6:51:50pm

re: #374 prairiefire

I would hope I could handle the conversation in person when it is easier to read other people, and I can keep talking until I get my foot out of my mouth!!

New books, yes!

Yep, and that’s why I really haven’t said anything about it here. Some things are too emotionally charged, and the history is too deep for an online discussion.
It just ends up creating more misunderstanding which shuts the whole thing down, and back to square one we go.

385 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 6:52:00pm

re: #382 goddamnedfrank

This.

386 Eventual Carrion  Feb 25, 2015 6:52:06pm

re: #97 De Kolta Chair

Embedded Image

“Good artists copy, great artists make some crazy ass stuff.” — Pablo Picasso

That would be the last time I took my kid to that dentist.

387 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 6:52:26pm

re: #383 Jenner7

388 darthstar  Feb 25, 2015 6:53:41pm

It’s like a scene from CPAC.

389 Stephen T.  Feb 25, 2015 6:54:58pm

re: #377 Jenner7

How do you argue with people who believe that more US soldiers have died under Obama than Bush??

How do you argue with people who refuse to believe that toddlers killed more Americans than terrorists did this year?

390 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 6:55:09pm

re: #377 Jenner7

How do you argue with people who believe that more US soldiers have died under Obama than Bush??

tell them inflation will soon reach 200% and sell them gold

391 darthstar  Feb 25, 2015 6:56:00pm

re: #390 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

tell them inflation will soon reach 200% and sell them gold

I really want to do that…but I have a conscience.

392 darthstar  Feb 25, 2015 6:56:28pm

re: #383 Jenner7

393 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 6:57:12pm
394 darthstar  Feb 25, 2015 6:58:42pm
395 Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2015 6:58:51pm

re: #382 goddamnedfrank

Here’s my point. If I agree with > 90% of what you’re saying, the remaining 10% or so has to be some really out there crazy hateful “Jews have horns” level fucked up bullshit for me to go to war with your ass on Twitter about.

That’s why I’m staying out of this even though the shit is all fucked up.

396 darthstar  Feb 25, 2015 7:00:43pm

re: #395 Charles Johnson

That’s why I’m staying out of this even though the shit is all fucked up.

Horns? I wish I had horns. I’d open beer bottles with them and chicks would dig me at parties.

397 darthstar  Feb 25, 2015 7:02:25pm
398 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 7:10:13pm

The PBS Nova on Hagia Sophia was really well done, and pretty encouraging. There are more in the series, including construction of Santa Maria di Fiore in Florence.

399 sagehen  Feb 25, 2015 7:12:51pm

As long as paintings are on-topic… I saw an awesome mural this afternoon at the Met…

nytimes.com

Way cool.

400 goddamnedfrank  Feb 25, 2015 7:14:28pm

Marvel’s Agent Carter season one only gets eight episodes?

This aggression will not stand, man.

401 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 7:18:37pm

re: #399 sagehen

As long as paintings are on-topic… I saw an awesome mural this afternoon at the Met…

nytimes.com

Way cool.

Very cool. They’re a lot like the Robinson murals that hung in the Pittsburgh Kauffman’s store through the 40s-50s.

triblive.com

402 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 7:20:02pm
This sold for $70m at Christie’s by Cy Twombly
403 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 7:20:06pm

Everybody is entitled to a meltdown from time to time. It’s what happens on the next day that counts.

404 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 7:23:20pm

re: #402 OhNoZombies!

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Something very like that hung on the classroom wall at Pittsburgh’s Epiphany parish school. It was called “Palmer Penmanship Practice”.

405 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 25, 2015 7:24:05pm

re: #402 OhNoZombies!

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Damn it! I knew I should have copyrighted my chalk drawings when I was 4!

406 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 25, 2015 7:24:17pm
407 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 25, 2015 7:26:45pm

re: #406 The Mother Of All Pies

Lemme guess. WPA mural in a Detroit public building.

408 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 7:27:42pm

re: #407 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Lemme guess. WPA mural in a Detroit public building.

Going for Diego (commie,cough) Rivera

409 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 7:28:01pm

re: #402 OhNoZombies!

Image: This sold for $70m at Christie’s by Cy Twombly

I doodle from time to time, and when I see stuff like this it makes me feel like I’m trying too hard.
Also, I want $70m.

410 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 7:28:10pm

re: #408 Decatur Deb

Going for Diego (commie,cough) Rivera

One guy there does look like Leon.

411 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 25, 2015 7:28:20pm

re: #348 Charles Johnson

I actually used to have a poster of Bosch’s Garden of Earthly Delights triptych. It’s an amazing, disturbing vision of medieval Christianity’s world view. I can understand why people might find it hard to deal with. It is.

i read where he was quite popular in his time and had many imitators. the triptych itself was set in a rather secular public place like a club or something where people who went there could dig its weirdness

the appropriateness of the tortures of the damned is of course very similar to the same logic applied in dante’s inferno and purgatorio

412 WhatEVs  Feb 25, 2015 7:28:37pm

re: #400 goddamnedfrank

Marvel’s Agent Carter season one only gets eight episodes?

This aggression will not stand, man.

And there’s no news on renewal. Word is they’ll only renew - maybe - because they need Carter as a tie in to creating SHIELD. I really liked Carter. I hope she returns.

413 SteelPH  Feb 25, 2015 7:28:44pm

re: #409 OhNoZombies!

I doodle from time to time, and when I see stuff like this it makes me feel like I’m trying too hard.
Also, I want $70m.

Welcome to my world.
//

414 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 7:29:19pm

re: #409 OhNoZombies!

I’ll never get this kind of, um, art. Neither this, nor Rothko. Sorry.

415 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 7:30:29pm

re: #410 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

One guy there does look like Leon.

Pre-iceax.

416 OhNoZombies!  Feb 25, 2015 7:34:25pm

re: #414 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I’ll never get this kind of, um, art. Neither this, nor Rothko. Sorry.

That’s the kind of art you stick on the refrigerator with magnets.
Right next to the picture of the flower made of macaroni.

417 prairiefire  Feb 25, 2015 7:35:17pm

re: #399 sagehen

As long as paintings are on-topic… I saw an awesome mural this afternoon at the Met…

nytimes.com

Way cool.

I love his “Persephone”.

418 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 7:35:34pm

re: #416 OhNoZombies!

That’s the kind of art you stick on the refrigerator with magnets.
Right next to the picture of the flower made of macaroni.

I wouldn’t stick that on my fridge. Well, maybe for 70m$…

419 #FergusonFireside  Feb 25, 2015 7:37:21pm

re: #408 Decatur Deb

Going for Diego (commie,cough) Rivera

Great story, his daughter (90’s) and Nelson Rockefeller’s daughter (70’s) are getting together to raise money for a gallery.

Daughters Back An Artful End To The Rivera-Rockefeller Rivalry Story

npr.org

The Rockefeller and Rivera galleries are expected to open when the Mexican Museum debuts at its new location in 2018.

420 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 7:38:22pm

I don’t get much of the modern art, that is all.

421 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 7:45:45pm

re: #420 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I don’t get much of the modern art, that is all.

Try viewing it with Pussy Riot loud in your earbuds.

422 Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2015 7:45:59pm

This district voted heavily for Scott Walker

Elmbrook School District faces $1.5 million deficit under Gov. Scott Walker’s budget

Walker’s proposed budget would eliminate the $150 in state aid per pupil for the next school year, adding up to a total loss of $127 million for school districts across the state the first year, according the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Walker’s proposal would restore those lost funds in the second year, but districts would still see a net loss.

Instead of seeing an increase of $480,000 next school year, the Elmbrook School District will face an approximate $1.5 million deficit under the governor’s budget. The district has about 7,000 students.

423 WhatEVs  Feb 25, 2015 7:52:06pm

re: #422 Amory Blaine

This district voted heavily for Scott Walker

Elmbrook School District faces $1.5 million deficit under Gov. Scott Walker’s budget

And, let me guess, Walker would win the district again.

424 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 7:54:54pm

CleverToad:

Posted some pics of a memory quilt I thought you’d be interested in and could share with your mom. It’s a quilt made from my dad’s ties.

littlegreenfootballs.com

425 Belafon  Feb 25, 2015 7:57:04pm

re: #422 Amory Blaine

And, if you read the rest of the article, you can see the other part of Walkers plan, because I see it here in Texas: They legislators that claim to be working with Elmbrook will say “Sure, we’d love to get you your money, but all those lazy others aren’t paying their fair share.” Turn cities and parents against each other rather than thinking about taking care of all the children.

426 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 8:00:23pm
Yikes, where do they convene CPAC, in the Pantheon in Rome?
427 A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2015 8:01:04pm

Ire: #422 Amory Blaine

Been hearing a bunch of Republicans in Illinois complaining about the budget cuts in Rauner’s budget. Especially some of the mayors and school districts. I just wonder what they thought they were voting for. SMH

428 Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2015 8:01:37pm

Senate adopts right-to-work measure, Assembly next up

With echoes of 2011’s labor battle, Republican state senators approved so-called right-to-work legislation Wednesday, less than a week after they announced they were fast-tracking the measure.

A crowd of onlookers chanted “Shame! Shame!” as senators filed out of the chamber.

The bill would bar labor contracts that require workers to pay union fees. It passed 17-15 mostly along party lines and now goes to the Assembly, where majority Republicans are expected to approve it next week. GOP Gov. Scott Walker has said he would sign it.

429 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 8:03:42pm

re: #386 Eventual Carrion

That would be the last time I took my kid to that dentist.

He looks a lot more like Sly Stone than he looks like my dentist. Now there’s a thought, Sly Stone as a dentist. I believe we have the makings of a bestselling graphic novel here. Excuse me while I attempt to contact Neil Gaiman’s agent. //

430 Nyet  Feb 25, 2015 8:07:37pm

Meet the “Men’s Rights Activists”.

A sore point for Factory, who has two daughters, who, like young women everywhere, he says, compete for the most exaggerated rape claim. It is, he says, a status thing. When one of his daughters came home one night and said she’d been raped, he said, “Are you fucking kidding me?” Sitting with us, he hikes his voice up to a falsetto in imitation: ” ‘Oh, I just got raped.’ ” He laughs. There’s a moment of silence. A bridge too far? “I told her if she pressed charges, I’d disown her.”

gq.com

431 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 8:08:13pm

re: #426 De Kolta Chair

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Nice catch on the coffered ceiling.

432 #FergusonFireside  Feb 25, 2015 8:09:41pm

re: #424 A Cranky One

CleverToad:

Posted some pics of a memory quilt I thought you’d be interested in and could share with your mom. It’s a quilt made from my dad’s ties.

littlegreenfootballs.com

I missed that before. Amazing.

433 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 8:09:59pm

re: #431 Decatur Deb

Nice catch on the coffered ceiling.

Fascinating feat of engineering, that old Pantheon.

434 Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2015 8:11:35pm

re: #433 De Kolta Chair

Fascinating piece of engineering, that old Pantheon.

Get agrippa on yourself.

435 #FergusonFireside  Feb 25, 2015 8:12:03pm

re: #430 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Meet the “Men’s Rights Activists”.

gq.com

I tried to read that piece, and just couldn’t get past the first paragraph. Kudos to Sharlet for writing it, but damn.

436 prairiefire  Feb 25, 2015 8:13:32pm

re: #424 A Cranky One

Really wonderful!

437 Floral Giraffe  Feb 25, 2015 8:18:39pm

OK, stupid question for the Lizards, WHICH Kindle ?
Kindle Paperwhite, 6” High-Resolution Display (212 ppi) with Built-in Light, Wi-Fi or wait for Amazon Kindle Voyage, Wi-Fi ? I’ve decided to take the ereader plunge!

438 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 8:29:50pm

re: #434 Decatur Deb

Get agrippa on yourself.

439 Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2015 8:32:08pm

re: #437 Floral Giraffe

I would wait for the Voyage. :)

440 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 8:35:05pm

The seventies — what the hell was that all about?

441 #FergusonFireside  Feb 25, 2015 8:35:58pm

re: #437 Floral Giraffe

OK, stupid question for the Lizards, WHICH Kindle ?
Kindle Paperwhite, 6” High-Resolution Display (212 ppi) with Built-in Light, Wi-Fi or wait for Amazon Kindle Voyage, Wi-Fi ? I’ve decided to take the ereader plunge!

Hi Flo!

(I have no idea)

442 CleverToad  Feb 25, 2015 8:40:44pm

re: #424 A Cranky One

Oh that is marvelous, both for lovely design and for priceless memories! I’ll have to show it to the little old quilter in the morning.

Been having time crunches & lag/connection problems, can’t make it through many of the threads. Thank you so much for re-posting!

443 De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2015 8:41:55pm
Liza Donnelly
444 Floral Giraffe  Feb 25, 2015 8:43:04pm

re: #441 #FergusonFireside

*Waves* Friends all say get the Voyage! So…buying through LGF!

445 WhatEVs  Feb 25, 2015 8:44:15pm

re: #425 Belafon

And, if you read the rest of the article, you can see the other part of Walkers plan, because I see it here in Texas: They legislators that claim to be working with Elmbrook will say “Sure, we’d love to get you your money, but all those lazy others aren’t paying their fair share.” Turn cities and parents against each other rather than thinking about taking care of all the children.

That’s so disgusting. It’s completely unAmerican. Fucking Republicans could collectively stop breathing (thank dog for automatic bodily functions because many GOPers are too stupid to breath on their own)…and I’d shed not one tear.

446 WhatEVs  Feb 25, 2015 8:50:08pm

re: #437 Floral Giraffe

OK, stupid question for the Lizards, WHICH Kindle ?
Kindle Paperwhite, 6” High-Resolution Display (212 ppi) with Built-in Light, Wi-Fi or wait for Amazon Kindle Voyage, Wi-Fi ? I’ve decided to take the ereader plunge!

I had a paperwhite and the page turns were so slow as to be distracting. I’m used to my iPhone/iPad app. I had an original kindle…it was ok (no backlight) and didn’t love it. I really dislike the paperwhite, though.

I gave it to my MIL. She seems to be quite happy with it.

I’ll stick with the app, myself. FWIW.


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