A Contest of Loons: CPAC Straw Poll Results

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Here they are, folks, the straw poll results you’ve been waiting for! (What, you haven’t been waiting for these?)

These are the loons most admired by CPAC attendees this year:

President:
1. Rand Paul
2. Scott Walker
3. Ted Cruz
4. Ben Carson
5. Jeb Bush

UPDATE at 2/28/15 2:28:09 pm by Charles Johnson

Here are the complete results of the clown car vote:

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143 comments
1 freetoken  Feb 28, 2015 2:19:11pm
A Contest of Loons

Did Ted Cruz pay off his voters with Canadian money?

2 Amory Blaine  Feb 28, 2015 2:21:55pm

Conservative stool? CCJ was there?

Clean up in aisle 7 boys!

3 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 2:22:03pm

Straw poll of strawmen.

4 Charles Johnson  Feb 28, 2015 2:23:33pm
5 A Cranky One  Feb 28, 2015 2:23:49pm

re: #3 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Straw poll of strawmen.

If they only had a brain…

6 jaunte  Feb 28, 2015 2:24:09pm

Caution, Loonesta side effects may include:

Confusion
Clumsiness or unsteadiness
Daytime anxiety and/or restlessness
Difficulty with coordination
Mood or mental changes
Wheezing
Skin rash
Aggressiveness
Behavior changes
Memory problems

7 lawhawk  Feb 28, 2015 2:25:05pm

Of course, CPAC polls have nothing to do with what the GOP will actually do, or how they’ll decide next year. Thing is, each is nuttier than the next.

You’ve got a couple of current or former governors who have shown themselves incapable of balancing budgets, engaging in bullying or other misconduct, or incapable of completing their terms (you get to put the name with the conduct, and there are multiple correct answers).

You’ve got a couple of business people whose claims to fame include sinking legendary brands or are notable for building a brand on other people’s money only to go bankrupt multiple times. Or got rich because of dad’s real estate empire.

And finally, you’ve got a couple of Senators whose efforts are nuttier than the next, and who have encouraged the House to engage in increasingly unhinged actions that have led to a GOP led shutdown, and whose rhetoric is not met with any kind of substance since they have no actual record of legislative achievement to speak of.

Woo. What a party! /

8 Justanotherhuman  Feb 28, 2015 2:25:08pm

Not suprising since the leaders of the different factions are there.

Surprised that Phil Robertson wasn’t a write-in, though.

9 Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2015 2:25:11pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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He’s the establishment choice, though with how badly fractured the party is, that might not mean much this go around. What matters right now is who on that list self-destructs been now and next January.

10 A Cranky One  Feb 28, 2015 2:25:40pm

re: #5 A Cranky One

If they only had a brain…

11 Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2015 2:26:42pm

Button Gwinnette showed the most leadership. He led the Jeb walkout.

washingtonpost.com

12 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Feb 28, 2015 2:28:09pm

re: #2 Amory Blaine

Conservative stool? CCJ was there?

Clean up in aisle 7 boys!

A conservative stool has legs???
- CharlesCJohnson

13 b.d.  Feb 28, 2015 2:28:12pm

re: #7 lawhawk

Who the hell would vote for Carly Fiorina over anybody, even over those other lunatics?

14 Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2015 2:29:26pm

re: #7 lawhawk

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Of course, CPAC polls have nothing to do with what the GOP will actually do, or how they’ll decide next year. Thing is, each is nuttier than the next.

You’ve got a couple of current or former governors who have shown themselves incapable of balancing budgets, engaging in bullying or other misconduct, or incapable of completing their terms (you get to put the name with the conduct, and there are multiple correct answers).

You’ve got a couple of business people whose claims to fame include sinking legendary brands or are notable for building a brand on other people’s money only to go bankrupt multiple times. Or got rich because of dad’s real estate empire.

And finally, you’ve got a couple of Senators whose efforts are nuttier than the next, and who have encouraged the House to engage in increasingly unhinged actions that have led to a GOP led shutdown, and whose rhetoric is not met with any kind of substance since they have no actual record of legislative achievement to speak of.

Woo. What a party! /

He beat three governors!

Six and a half.

15 lawhawk  Feb 28, 2015 2:29:40pm

re: #13 b.d.

Because the alternatives are worse? And she and Palin are the only women even being considered by these loons?

16 Amory Blaine  Feb 28, 2015 2:30:35pm

re: #7 lawhawk

Looks like the pre-election line up for Meet the GOP Press.

17 Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2015 2:30:51pm

re: #13 b.d.

Who the hell would vote for Carly Fiorina over anybody, even over those other lunatics?

She’s big among the sheep exorcists.

18 lawhawk  Feb 28, 2015 2:31:21pm

re: #14 Decatur Deb

5 and a half.

Christie, Perry, Jindal, Palin (1/2), Huckabee, and Pataki.

19 Charles Johnson  Feb 28, 2015 2:31:56pm
20 b.d.  Feb 28, 2015 2:32:02pm

The bloom sure has blown off of Sarah Palin

21 Charles Johnson  Feb 28, 2015 2:34:02pm

This nut has been tweeting weird stuff at me all day.

22 Justanotherhuman  Feb 28, 2015 2:34:12pm

CPAC, off the chain…holy shit.

‘Duck Dynasty’ star Phil Robertson blasts Nazis, STDs at CPAC

msnbc.com

23 Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2015 2:34:32pm

re: #20 b.d.

The bloom sure has blown off of Sarah Palin

Tastes change. They even canceled Honey Boo Boo.

24 b.d.  Feb 28, 2015 2:35:57pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

Tastes change. They even canceled Honey Boo Boo.

If Honey Boo Boo came out for a flat tax and building the fence she’d poll better at CPAC than Jeb

25 lawhawk  Feb 28, 2015 2:36:51pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

They only cancelled Honey Boo Boo because they found out that one of the people on the show was a pedophile and sex abuser.

26 bratwurst  Feb 28, 2015 2:37:00pm
27 Justanotherhuman  Feb 28, 2015 2:37:12pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

Tastes change. They even canceled Honey Boo Boo.

Mommy was dating a pedophile?

28 b.d.  Feb 28, 2015 2:38:25pm

re: #25 lawhawk

They only cancelled Honey Boo Boo because they found out that one of the people on the show was a pedophile and sex abuser.

That’ll probably be the reason they end up canceling Sarah Palin’s show too.

29 sagehen  Feb 28, 2015 2:38:48pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

Tastes change. They even canceled Honey Boo Boo.

Only because of Mama June’s sex scandal.

(just think about that for a minute. Look at a picture of Mama June. She’s in a sex scandal. *MY EYES!*) Her “new” boyfriend turns out to be the ex-boyfriend who just finished a 10-year prison term for molesting the oldest daughter.

30 stpaulbear  Feb 28, 2015 2:40:04pm

re: #20 b.d.

The bloom sure has blown off of Sarah Palin

There also seems to be a certain Maverick missing from the list.

Were all of those choices made from a list given out to CPAC attendees or did they get to write in whoever they wanted?

31 TedStriker  Feb 28, 2015 2:42:59pm

re: #6 jaunte

Caution, Loonesta side effects may include:

Don’t forget:

Explosive flatulence
Excessive anal leakage
Death

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32 goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2015 2:43:28pm

CCJ, looking straight up drunk as all fuck.

33 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 2:44:19pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

That, and “trying too hard” uncomfortable.

34 Justanotherhuman  Feb 28, 2015 2:45:15pm

I wouldn’t worry bout Rand Paul going anywhere near the WH. After all, these have won the straw poll before, and where are they now? Gary Bauer, Rudy Giuliani and Steve Forbes. Mitt Romney won it in 2012 and went on to defeat, too, in the general.

It’s definitely a loser’s poll.

35 Justanotherhuman  Feb 28, 2015 2:46:41pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

CCJ, looking straight up drunk as all fuck.

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Trying to imply that he has staff? With his pants falling down? Yech.

36 TedStriker  Feb 28, 2015 2:50:53pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

CCJ, looking straight up drunk as all fuck.

I guess he’s been hitting the open bar pretty hard…

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37 Charles Johnson  Feb 28, 2015 2:51:04pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

CCJ, looking straight up drunk as all fuck.

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Totally hammered.

38 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2015 2:52:56pm

re: #36 TedStriker

I guess he’s been hitting the open bar pretty hard…

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39 goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2015 2:57:04pm

Like Zack Galifanakis, minus all of the self awareness, intentional irony, comedic talent and not playing a role but instead totally sincere.

40 ObserverArt  Feb 28, 2015 2:57:28pm

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

Trying to imply that he has staff? With his pants falling down? Yech.

Falling down or loaded and dropping???

///Ewww…

41 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 2:58:45pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

CCJ, looking straight up drunk as all fuck.

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ZOMG, I just looked at the full size version—he’s throwing the index finger Daesh/jihadi/Shahada “gang sign” that the wingnuts accused POTUS of using—with both hands.

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42 Charles Johnson  Feb 28, 2015 3:01:27pm
43 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 3:04:27pm

re: #41 CuriousLurker

ZOMG, I just looked at the full size version—he’s throwing the index finger Daesh/jihadi/Shahada “gang sign” that the wingnuts accused POTUS of using—with both hands.

//

The one-finger gesture [shuddup, Hussars] means “God is one”, so he must believe in two… //

44 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 3:08:14pm

re: #43 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

BTW, I just missed you last thread with this: littlegreenfootballs.com

45 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 3:09:31pm

re: #41 CuriousLurker

ZOMG, I just looked at the full size version—he’s throwing the index finger Daesh/jihadi/Shahada “gang sign” that the wingnuts accused POTUS of using—with both hands.

//

He’s even got a beard. I wonder if that means…

46 GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 28, 2015 3:09:56pm

Too bad there’s no but with h the last name Imperial.

Imperial/Walker 2016!

47 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 3:10:42pm

re: #44 CuriousLurker

I have a Soviet book somewhere, 130 equals, with descriptions and alphabets of 130 languages of the USSR. So yeah, it’s pretty diverse.

48 goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2015 3:11:53pm
49 WhatEVs  Feb 28, 2015 3:13:37pm

re: #13 b.d.

Who the hell would vote for Carly Fiorina over anybody, even over those other lunatics?

People who know CPAC is meaningless and there is no War on Teh Wimmins!!!11!!!?

50 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 3:14:33pm

re: #41 CuriousLurker

Looking closer now, he’s making the V-sign.

OR IS IT 4 ISIS SIGNS???

51 Justanotherhuman  Feb 28, 2015 3:15:28pm

When 18 wheelers meet…

52 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 3:17:20pm

re: #51 Justanotherhuman

When 18 wheelers meet…

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36-wheelers are born?

53 Charles Johnson  Feb 28, 2015 3:18:46pm
54 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 3:19:03pm
55 Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2015 3:20:22pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

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Those are Leadership Institute kids who want to grow up to be James O’Keeffe.

56 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 3:20:28pm

re: #47 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Going totally OT now, but I also found an interesting short paper (four pages) titled Where Are Europe’s Borders? (PDF)

I know that geographically the Ural Mountains are the dividing point between Europe & Asia, but this addresses history, culture and politics as well, from a European perspective. For someone like me who has never been to Europe, it was a very helpful explanation for putting things in context.

I have a question. The next to the last bullet on page three says:

Ultimately there is the question of Russia - is it a part of Europe or not? I am afraid that even the Russians themselves do not know the answer. The Russians’ recent attitude toward Eurasianism suggests that they probably do not want to answer such a question.

What exactly is the “Russians’ recent attitude toward Eurasianism”?

57 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 3:21:03pm

re: #50 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Looking closer now, he’s making the V-sign.

OR IS IT 4 ISIS SIGNS???

LOL

58 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 3:21:31pm

Hey, FG—how are ya??

59 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 28, 2015 3:22:30pm

re: #51 Justanotherhuman

When 18 wheelers meet…

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Oh, f**k. I know that stretch of road from when I was driving for Schneider. Not a good place even in nice weather. Hope the drivers are all ok.

60 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 3:24:10pm

I also found this 1970 Tolstoy biography narrated by his daughter:

Very interesting, IMHO.

61 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 3:25:41pm

re: #56 CuriousLurker

Eurasianism is a theory currently promoted by a popular neo-fascist philosopher and “geopolitician” Aleksandr Dugin that posits Russia as neither Europe, nor Asia, but “Eurasia”. The philosophy gathers the conservative (one could say, reactionary) elements from both sides. As an example, both Eastern Orthodox Christians and non-Wahhabi traditional Russian Muslims are welcome, and theoretically conservative Jews and Buddhists too. In practice it’s just another conservative framework.

62 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 3:27:04pm

re: #61 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Eurasianism is a theory currently promoted by a popular neo-fascist philosopher and “geopolitician” Aleksandr Dugin that posits Russia as neither Europe, nor Asia, but “Eurasia”. The philosophy gathers the conservative (one could say, reactionary) elements from both sides. As an example, both Eastern Orthodox Christians and non-Wahhabi traditional Russian Muslims are welcome, and theoretically conservative Jews and Buddhists too. In practice it’s just another conservative framework.

Ah, okay. Thanks, that helps a lot.

63 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 3:27:12pm

Oh, and current attitudes. Well, it’s a buzzword. It can accompany the rejection of “Gayrope” and such.

64 Floral Giraffe  Feb 28, 2015 3:28:14pm

re: #58 CuriousLurker

Good! Just getting caught up with you all! LOVE your needlepoint pics!

65 goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2015 3:29:31pm
66 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 3:30:36pm

re: #64 Floral Giraffe

Good! Just getting caught up with you all! LOVE your needlepoint pics!

That was klys. I wish I had the patience for that!

Very glad to hear you’re doing well. Miss you.

67 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 3:30:44pm

C’mon, drunk Chuck, don’t hold it in you, tell us what you really think.

68 Justanotherhuman  Feb 28, 2015 3:30:47pm

re: #59 William Barnett-Lewis

Yes, it looks like a real clusterfuck on a snowy interstate, and there appear to be a couple of cars, also.

69 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 3:32:37pm

re: #63 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Oh, and current attitudes. Well, it’s a buzzword. It can accompany the rejection of “Gayrope” and such.

I had to look that one up. Found this regarding a trip by a Russian journalist named Dmitry Kiselyov,:

In reality hardly anyone can be truly surprised by the fact, that the mettlesome crier of Russian imperial state and a spiritual pillar preferred the trip into the very bosom of the enemy - “Gayrope” - “the nest of lust and sin” over traditional fishing of omul on the Baikal Lake or the Kuban Cossack amusements. Joking aside, this is just another evidence that Russian citizens are being fed with ideological mixed fodder of anti-Westernism and patriotism while the authorities and their accomplices themselves do not wish to taste.

upogau.org

Does that about cover it?

70 Floral Giraffe  Feb 28, 2015 3:32:41pm

re: #66 CuriousLurker

Lurking & laughing here today! Sorry for the uff on the needlepoint!

71 #FergusonFireside  Feb 28, 2015 3:33:29pm

re: #66 CuriousLurker

That was klys. I wish I had the patience for that!

Very glad to hear you’re doing well. Miss you.

Yeah, no one would confuse me with that either. My accomplishments are simple. Dishes & laundry.

Maybe I’ll dust tomorrow!!!

Hi Flo!!!

72 Floral Giraffe  Feb 28, 2015 3:34:17pm

re: #71 #FergusonFireside

Hiya, whatever your nic is today! Giggles!

73 Justanotherhuman  Feb 28, 2015 3:35:48pm

re: #72 Floral Giraffe

What have you been up to lately? : )

74 #FergusonFireside  Feb 28, 2015 3:36:43pm

Ya, probably time for a change. But I don’t want to forget the young protesters and their energy. So.

Getting ready for my waitress shift tonight. Always a shitshow, but fun in a way!

75 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 3:37:37pm

re: #69 CuriousLurker

I had to look that one up. Found this regarding a trip by a Russian journalist named Dmitry Kiselyov,:

Does that about cover it?

Kiselyov used to be very liberal and conscientious. I don’t know what happened that turned him into a monster.

littlegreenfootballs.com

76 Floral Giraffe  Feb 28, 2015 3:37:37pm

re: #73 Justanotherhuman

Sailing with a new guy who lives on a boat. Might be going around the world adventuring! Beats the shoot out of this political junk! But so many friends here!

77 #FergusonFireside  Feb 28, 2015 3:39:21pm

Dershowitz spewing shit on CNN right now about IRAN.

Gah that dude.

78 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 3:39:49pm

re: #76 Floral Giraffe

Sailing with a new guy who lives on a boat. Might be going around the world adventuring! Beats the shoot out of this political junk! But so many friends here!

Wow, sounds exciting. Please be sure to let us know if you go so we don’t have to wonder what happened to you!

79 Dark_Falcon  Feb 28, 2015 3:41:03pm

re: #13 b.d.

Who the hell would vote for Carly Fiorina over anybody, even over those other lunatics?

She has three appealing traits:

1. She’s a sane person. In contemporary American politics that’s not as common as it should be.

2. She’s not an idiot, even though she screwed up at Hewlet-Packard.

3. She’s a ‘she’. That gives her a good chance at the vP spot, as Republicans are strengthened against Hillary Clinton if al least one of their two national candidates has a uterus.

80 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 3:42:09pm

re: #77 #FergusonFireside

Dershowitz spewing shit on CNN right now about IRAN.

Gah that dude.

One would think that after the Epstein episode he would be shunned. And no, I don’t imply that he actually raped anyone. He was, however, Epstein’s close friend who became his lawyer after the truth came out and who tried to slime Epstein’s victims.

81 Dark_Falcon  Feb 28, 2015 3:43:45pm

re: #76 Floral Giraffe

Sailing with a new guy who lives on a boat. Might be going around the world adventuring! Beats the shoot out of this political junk! But so many friends here!

Hello, Floral! Sorry I haven’t been around much, but my work had my in a bad place this week. Wasn’t planning to be on LGF much at all today, but then I got sick.

82 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 3:43:56pm

re: #75 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Kiselyov used to be very liberal and conscientious. I don’t know what happened that turned him into a monster.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Wow. Thanks.

I was wondering why a Muslim like Ramzan Kadyrov would be an ally of Putin (even though I know he’s an asshole—human rights abuses, support for honor killings, etc.), but your explanations make it seem less confusing.

83 wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2015 3:44:16pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

She has three appealing traits:

1. She’s a sane person. In contemporary American politics that’s not as common as it should be.

2. She’s not an idiot, even though she screwed up at IBM.

3. She’s a ‘she’. That gives her a good chance at the vP spot, as Republicans are strengthened against Hillary Clinton if al least one of their two national candidates has a uterus.

She showed up at CPAC. That qualifies her for the ‘loon’ epithet. Any other reason for your downding?

84 Dark_Falcon  Feb 28, 2015 3:46:10pm

re: #77 #FergusonFireside

Dershowitz spewing shit on CNN right now about IRAN.

Gah that dude.

Its one thing to have senators go on TV and yak-yak about Iran, since at least they have to vote on some of the policy questions. But CNN having Alan Dershowitz on about Iran is almost as bad as Fox News having Phil Robertson on regarding ISIS. Almost.

85 wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2015 3:46:15pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

She has three appealing traits:

1. She’s a sane person. In contemporary American politics that’s not as common as it should be.

2. She’s not an idiot, even though she screwed up at IBM.

3. She’s a ‘she’. That gives her a good chance at the vP spot, as Republicans are strengthened against Hillary Clinton if al least one of their two national candidates has a uterus.

Possession of that organ is not a requirement for womanhood.

86 blueraven  Feb 28, 2015 3:46:21pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

She has three appealing traits:

1. She’s a sane person. In contemporary American politics that’s not as common as it should be.

2. She’s not an idiot, even though she screwed up at IBM.

3. She’s a ‘she’. That gives her a good chance at the vP spot, as Republicans are strengthened against Hillary Clinton if al least one of their two national candidates has a uterus.

1. She screwed up Hewlett Packard

2. She is a Palin wannabe (as far as going for the mean-girl, pit bull VP role)

87 Justanotherhuman  Feb 28, 2015 3:48:07pm

Idiot. Probably pissed at Pres Obama first and foremost about Cuba.

In an apparent response to news that Venezuela plans to require visas for Americans traveling to the country, Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla., tweets: ‘I’ve always wanted to travel to a corrupt country that is not a free democracy. And now Castro’s lap dog won’t let me!’ - @MarioDB
see original on twitter.com

88 Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2015 3:48:27pm

re: #76 Floral Giraffe

Sailing with a new guy who lives on a boat. Might be going around the world adventuring! Beats the shoot out of this political junk! But so many friends here!

Get on the boat.

89 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 28, 2015 3:48:38pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

She has three appealing traits:

1. She’s a sane person. In contemporary American politics that’s not as common as it should be.

Sane is arguable - see the sheep ad - but there is utterly no doubt as to her complete and utter incompetency as a CEO.

2. She’s not an idiot, even though she screwed up at IBM.

Objection: Agrument not drawn from facts in evidence.

She almost destroyed Lucent. Did destroy Compaq and DEC. The jury is still out on if HP will survive her incompetence.

3. She’s a ‘she’. That gives her a good chance at the vP spot, as Republicans are strengthened against Hillary Clinton if al least one of their two national candidates has a uterus.

Only valid argument in the bunch.

90 Dark_Falcon  Feb 28, 2015 3:51:07pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

She has three appealing traits:

1. She’s a sane person. In contemporary American politics that’s not as common as it should be.

2. She’s not an idiot, even though she screwed up at Hewlet-Packard.

3. She’s a ‘she’. That gives her a good chance at the vP spot, as Republicans are strengthened against Hillary Clinton if al least one of their two national candidates has a uterus.

Post edited. And what’s more I was thinking ‘Hewlet-Packard’ before I reached that line. Must have been a brain-fart.

91 Floral Giraffe  Feb 28, 2015 3:51:27pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

Feel better soon!

92 Floral Giraffe  Feb 28, 2015 3:52:06pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

I’m working on it! :)

93 Justanotherhuman  Feb 28, 2015 3:52:57pm

Later, Lizards! Time for some Foyle’s War.

Keep calm…

94 goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2015 3:53:04pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

She has three appealing traits:

1. She’s a sane person. In contemporary American politics that’s not as common as it should be.

2. She’s not an idiot, even though she screwed up at IBM.

3. She’s a ‘she’. That gives her a good chance at the vP spot, as Republicans are strengthened against Hillary Clinton if al least one of their two national candidates has a uterus.

She’s a bigot. She thinks State’s should let people vote on equal rights for gays, and she vocally opposes judicial protection via the 14th Amendment Section 1 EPC. She proudly supported Prop 8.

95 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 3:54:09pm

re: #61 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Just looked at Dugin’s photo—now I remember seeing his face during the Ukrainian upheaval. Reminded me of Rasputin.

96 #FergusonFireside  Feb 28, 2015 3:56:35pm

Fiorina just said she’s running.

Off to work, see ya’ll later.

97 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 3:57:59pm

re: #82 CuriousLurker

Wow. Thanks.

I was wondering why a Muslim like Ramzan Kadyrov would be an ally of Putin (even though I know he’s an asshole—human rights abuses, support for honor killings, etc.), but your explanations make it seem less confusing.

Kadyrov used to be among the separatists as a kid, as was his father, the “Chief Mufti of Ichkeriya”. He used to fight the federals, there’s a photo of him among the terrorists, specifically with Basaev. As his father, Ahmad Kadyrov, decided to leave the separatists and join the federals, Ramzan of course went with him. Putin made Kadyrov Sr. the ruler of Chechnya, but the latter was killed by terrorists, so this gave Putin a chance - he made young Ramzan the de facto absolute ruler of Chechnya and thus received a controlled and apparently tamed “puppet king”.

Putin has Ramzan’s 100% loyalty. But this also means that despite the material improvements, Chechnya is a time bomb. It has become a little fascist state-within-state, where Ramzan’s cult of personality is rampant. What happens after Putin goes away? Do you think Ramzan will easily submit to any other president, much less a liberal/pro-Western one?

The story is not over, I’m afraid.

98 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 28, 2015 4:00:58pm

re: #96 #FergusonFireside

Fiorina just said she’s running.

Off to work, see ya’ll later.

Hell, Dick Morris had a fucking book out all about the 2008 presidential race between Hillary Clinton and Condoleezza Rice. Maybe I could sell a book on the monumental Clinton/Fiorina contest before it became too obvious bullshit.

99 blueraven  Feb 28, 2015 4:01:37pm

King Abdullah II tells Fareed that ISIS has no legitimacy within the Islamic faith and is not based on the tenets of the religion.

He agrees with president Obama that ISIS should not be labeled as Islamic anything.

Now what will the RW do, since they have adopted King Abdullah as their new hero? He is in agreement with Obama!! Will they fall out of love now?

(Short video at link)

100 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 28, 2015 4:03:26pm

re: #85 wrenchwench

Possession of that organ is not a requirement for womanhood.

To the GOP it is. Part and parcel of her own bigotry.

101 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 4:03:36pm

re: #99 blueraven

This King-worship by RWNJs was weird from the start. He is a Muslim, after all.

102 goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2015 4:04:03pm

The primary qualification for any VP candidate is, “can they carry a swing state.” Fiorina doesn’t qualify on that score. Also:

In January, after a radio host brought up DeVore’s charge that she was “personally pro-life, but when it comes to Roe v. Wade Carly Fiorina is something else,” she responded, “Well, you know, I think it’d be helpful at some point if Chuck DeVore would quit mischaracterizing my record… . I absolutely would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade if the opportunity presented itself.”

Yeah, sure, that’ll play well with women. It’s not like they give a shit by and large about reproductive freedom.

Republican’s would help themselves immensely if they stopped thinking of their problem demographics (women & minorities) as total fucking idiots swayed solely by identity politics. This is just kneejerk confirmation bias and an excuse not to critically examine or deal with the issues that drive these voters away from the GOP. You can’t fix the problem by tacking on a random black person or a vagina on the ticket. Fuck, you don’t even get how grossly insulting it is to think about individuals and what they bring to the table in such reductive terminology.

103 b.d.  Feb 28, 2015 4:05:26pm

re: #96 #FergusonFireside

Fiorina just said she’s running.

Off to work, see ya’ll later.

Each candidate will get to answer 1 question each in the debates beacuse there is going to be about 40 of them.

I have no idea who Carly’s base would be? Anyone who actually paid attention to her business career would run away from her and she doesn’t even register on the bagger scale.

104 Lidane  Feb 28, 2015 4:06:11pm

ROFL. The local newscaster I’m watching just referred to CPAC as a cattle call of Republican hopefuls. That’s awesome.

105 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 4:07:46pm

Moreover, they derisively call BO “King Obama”, but kiss ass of a real king (who’s a swell guy and all, but still not a democratic ruler).

106 Floral Giraffe  Feb 28, 2015 4:07:47pm

re: #83 wrenchwench

So nice to “see” you! Hope all is well?

107 Dark_Falcon  Feb 28, 2015 4:10:34pm

re: #104 Lidane

ROFL. The local newscaster I’m watching just referred to CPAC as a cattle call of Republican hopefuls. That’s awesome.

Even some Republicans have called it that. Early campaign events have long been called ‘cattle calls’ or ‘cattle shows’ by the press, its just that the terms weren’t routinely used by non-media people until recently.

One can argue the public using the ‘in-group’ term is a sign of things moo-ving in the right direction.

108 blueraven  Feb 28, 2015 4:10:50pm

re: #101 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

This King-worship by RWNJs was weird from the start. He is a Muslim, after all.

Putin, Abdullah, presidents, kings…doesnt matter to them.

As long as they think they can compare and contrast Obama against someone who appears to be a “tough guy”, they can try to score points and say Obama is weak. They hate Obama more than they love democracy.

109 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 4:14:07pm

re: #97 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Kadyrov used to be among the separatists as a kid, as was his father, the “Chief Mufti of Ichkeriya”. He used to fight the federals, there’s a photo of him among the terrorists, specifically with Basaev. As his father, Ahmad Kadyrov, decided to leave the separatists and join the federals, Ramzan of course went with him. Putin made Kadyrov Sr. the ruler of Chechnya, but the latter was killed by terrorists, so this gave Putin a chance - he made young Ramzan the de facto absolute ruler of Chechnya and thus received a controlled and apparently tamed “puppet king”.

Putin has Ramzan’s 100% loyalty. But this also means that despite the material improvements, Chechnya is a time bomb. It has become a little fascist state-within-state, where Ramzan’s cult of personality is rampant. What happens after Putin goes away? Do you think Ramzan will easily submit to any other president, much less a liberal/pro-Western one?

The story is not over, I’m afraid.

Sounds ominous. Ugh.

BTW, if anyone’s interested in more on Dugin, there’s this interview by someone who (you only find out during the last couple of minute) is an admirer of Dugin. I can see how his philosophy would appeal to some people.

110 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 4:17:37pm

re: #109 CuriousLurker

someone who (you only find out during the last couple of minute) is an admirer of Dugin

You don’t translate someone’s useless book unless you really admire them (or are handsomely paid), so this becomes clear in the first minute ;)

Dugin is a literal neo-fascist, he started out at the Pamyat society. I really should gather myself and write a series of posts on all this.

111 wrenchwench  Feb 28, 2015 4:21:47pm

re: #106 Floral Giraffe

So nice to “see” you! Hope all is well?

Headed that way! Hi! Get on that boat!

112 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 28, 2015 4:22:05pm

Placing high in a straw poll at CPAC is like finishing in the top 5 in a beauty contest at a leper colony. When you get right down to it, you’re still a leper.

RBS

113 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 4:26:01pm

re: #110 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

You don’t translate someone’s useless book unless you really admire them (or are handsomely paid), so this becomes clear in the first minute ;)

Heh, I’ll try to remember that next time.

Dugin is a literal neo-fascist, he started at the Pamyat society. I really should gather myself and write a series of posts on all this.

Yeah, Wiki says he’s a fascist, and then there’s this (emphasis mine):

In his 1997 article “Fascism - Borderless and Red”, Dugin exclaimed the arrival of a “genuine, true, radically revolutionary and consistent, fascist fascism” in Russia. He believes that it was “by no means the racist and chauvinist aspects of National Socialism that determined the nature of its ideology. The excesses of this ideology in Germany are a matter exclusively of the Germans, … while Russian fascism is a combination of natural national conservatism with a passionate desire for true changes.”[19] “Waffen-SS and especially the scientific sector of this organization, Ahnenerbe,” was “an intellectual oasis in the framework of the National Socialist regime”, according to him.[19]

en.wikipedia.org

That gave me a real WTF moment.

You really should do that series. I don’t know about others, but I’m almost totally ignorant on the subject and would welcome the opportunity to learn more.

114 Floral Giraffe  Feb 28, 2015 4:26:12pm

re: #111 wrenchwench

Glad you are getting well! I am going to try the boat, for what is life without adventure?

115 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 4:30:12pm

It’s cold. I want hot cornbread with lots of butter. And maybe a cup of Mexican hot chocolate. Or coffee.

WTF is it with this place that always makes me hungry??

116 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 28, 2015 4:32:19pm

re: #114 Floral Giraffe

Glad you are getting well! I am going to try the boat, for what is life without adventure?

As Hunter Thompson observed “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!”

Go for it.

RBS

117 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 28, 2015 4:34:51pm

re: #115 CuriousLurker

It’s cold. I want hot cornbread with lots of butter. And maybe a cup of Mexican hot chocolate. Or coffee.

WTF is it with this place that always makes me hungry??

How about Mexican hot chocolate WITH some coffee in it?

RBS

118 Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2015 4:35:29pm

re: #114 Floral Giraffe

Glad you are getting well! I am going to try the boat, for what is life without adventure?

Very, very long, but devoid of cannibalism.

119 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 4:38:12pm

re: #117 RealityBasedSteve

How about Mexican hot chocolate WITH some coffee in it?

RBS

Hmm, that might work…

Gonna go get that cornbread started. Later, lizards.

120 bratwurst  Feb 28, 2015 4:38:29pm

Sad but true:

121 blueraven  Feb 28, 2015 4:38:43pm

re: #115 CuriousLurker

It’s cold. I want hot cornbread with lots of butter. And maybe a cup of Mexican hot chocolate. Or coffee.

WTF is it with this place that always makes me hungry??

Cold here in Central TX too! OK, not anything like there but never got above freezing here with a light drizzle all day.

I had to go to the store for a few essentials. My MIL called while I was at the store and said she had made Caldo (Beef soup with cabbage, potatoes, carrots and mini corn on the cob)

Would I like to come by and pick some up? Oh hell yeah!

Gonna make some cornbread and eat it all up. Yum!

122 Archangelus  Feb 28, 2015 4:41:07pm

Rawstory: CPAC’s ‘Ask a Speaker’ Campaign Backfires

Following in the footsteps of Bill Cosby’s publicists and the New York Police Department social media outreach officer, the organizers of CPAC have opened the floor to questions from Twitter via the #CPACQ hashtag.

Not surprisingly, the decision quickly backfired, with liberals flooding Twitter with questions before the conference even started

Some of my favorites include:

and lastly:

123 CuriousLurker  Feb 28, 2015 4:41:44pm

re: #121 blueraven

Mmm, caldo de res. Drat! I don’t have any corn on the cob, but I do have the rest of the fixings. Now I know what I’m going to do with that hunk of round roast in the freezer (as soon as I can get to the store).

124 Dark_Falcon  Feb 28, 2015 4:41:49pm

This next story inspires me to offer a toast, so raise a cup of whatever you’re drinking:

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the re-opened Iraqi Museum, with 3,000 of the artifacts looted from it recovered. And damnation to Daesh!

125 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 4:42:53pm

re: #120 bratwurst

Just a few days ago I read this by Boteach:

observer.com

This past week, Peter trained his guns on Elie Wiesel, the very face of the murdered six million of the Holocaust.

Apparently the six million murdered Jews were a monolith and Mr. Wiesel speaks for all of them. *eyeroll*

Is Boteach always such an over-exaggerating douche?

126 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 4:47:22pm

Oh, the first day of spring!

(I know many people count it differently, but I always use the calendar seasons.)

127 Archangelus  Feb 28, 2015 4:48:41pm

More CPACQ goodness:

128 b_sharp  Feb 28, 2015 4:49:08pm

re: #126 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Oh, the first day of spring!

(I know many people count it differently, but I always use the calendar seasons.)

Which planet are you on?

129 Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2015 4:50:54pm

re: #128 b_sharp

Which planet are you on?

Let him down easy.

130 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 4:50:58pm

re: #128 b_sharp

Which planet are you on?

Gyron.

131 freetoken  Feb 28, 2015 4:51:08pm

The common loon:

132 Nyet  Feb 28, 2015 4:53:21pm

re: #126 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Oh, the first day of spring!

(I know many people count it differently, but I always use the calendar seasons.)

Maybe I should have said, “The first night of spring”. March the 1st has just begun.

133 Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2015 4:54:56pm

re: #131 freetoken

The common loon:

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All-too Common Loon:

134 Dark_Falcon  Feb 28, 2015 5:04:34pm

re: #133 Decatur Deb

All-too Common Loon:

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The difference between the two is that the Bearded Loon will shoot Common Loons with a shotgun. In season, of course.

135 Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2015 5:05:25pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

The difference between the two is that the Bearded Loon will shoot Common Loons with a shotgun. In season, of course.

After luring it in close with promise of sexual congress.

136 Dark_Falcon  Feb 28, 2015 5:06:57pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

After luring it in close with promise of sexual congress.

Wouldn’t be the first loon led to a bad end by its reproductive drive.

137 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 28, 2015 5:08:16pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

After luring it in close with promise of sexual congress.

Other loons are lured in by promise of a conservative congress.
//

138 b_sharp  Feb 28, 2015 5:17:33pm

re: #132 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Maybe I should have said, “The first night of spring”. March the 1st has just begun.

Spring is still a few weeks away.

139 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 28, 2015 5:34:08pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

She has three appealing traits:

1. She’s a sane person. In contemporary American politics that’s not as common as it should be.

2. She’s not an idiot, even though she screwed up at Hewlet-Packard.

3. She’s a ‘she’. That gives her a good chance at the vP spot, as Republicans are strengthened against Hillary Clinton if al least one of their two national candidates has a uterus.

She fucked up not only HP, but also Lucent, Compaq and DEC, and she touts this as her greatest accomplishments, as opposed to Hillary merely “flying around” as Secretary of State.

140 EPR-radar  Feb 28, 2015 5:45:03pm

re: #139 The Mother Of All Pies

She fucked up not only HP, but also Lucent, Compaq and DEC, and she touts this as her greatest accomplishments, as opposed to Hillary merely “flying around” as Secretary of State.

Of course Carly touts her stints as CEO of several big companies as major accomplishments. After all, she was paid the really big bucks at all of these gigs.

‘Nuff said. /////

141 BongCrodny  Feb 28, 2015 6:12:24pm

I would absolutely love to know who the candidates are that were represented by the 0.7% of voters who selected “Other.”

You would think that the various cranks, crackpots and sociopaths comprising most of that list of candidates would satisfy even the wingnuttiest CPAC attendees — and yet, that list was unsatisfactory to some 25 of them.

Any ideas who those ~25 may have voted for? Newt Gingrich? Paul LePage? Louie Gohmert?

Ted Nugent?

142 Tigger2  Mar 1, 2015 4:16:10am

re: #133 Decatur Deb

All-too Common Loon:

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Looks like an ISIS member to me. ///

143 palomino  Mar 1, 2015 1:52:04pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

She has three appealing traits:

1. She’s a sane person. In contemporary American politics that’s not as common as it should be.

2. She’s not an idiot, even though she screwed up at Hewlet-Packard.

3. She’s a ‘she’. That gives her a good chance at the vP spot, as Republicans are strengthened against Hillary Clinton if al least one of their two national candidates has a uterus.

Have you forgotten 2008? One uterus on the gop side, none on the dem side. How did that work out for your party?

Women aren’t interested in voting for uteruses; they’re interested in voting for candidates who share their views more closely, which is why Palin couldn’t do much to blunt Obama’s appeal. See also Ferrarro, Geraldine from 1984’s election.

One more thing: a relative unknown woman at the bottom of the ticket doesn’t exactly counter Hillary at the top of the other party’s ticket. And it’s pretty much a waste to nominate a Republican from Cali. The days of guys like Nixon and Reagan winning in their home states are over for the electorate of the country’s largest state.


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