Elizabeth Warren Will Skip Netanyahu’s Speech

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Good for Elizabeth Warren.

Warren announced she would not attend the speech in a statement issued by her office Monday evening.

“I strongly support Israel, and I remain deeply concerned about the prospect of an Iranian nuclear weapon, which I discussed in detail with Prime Minister Netanyahu when we met in Jerusalem last November,” the Democratic senator said in a statement. “It’s unfortunate that Speaker Boehner’s actions on the eve of a national election in Israel have made Tuesday’s event more political and less helpful for addressing the critical issue of nuclear nonproliferation and the safety of our most important ally in the Middle East.”

I’m also a supporter of Israel who’s appalled at this nakedly political move by the Republican Party, obviously intended to undermine President Obama. And I sincerely hope it backfires on them, as it should.

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339 comments
1 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 6:12:28pm

Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

2 Dizzy  Mar 2, 2015 6:17:13pm

” I sincerely hope it backfires on them, as it should”

I also hope it backfires on Netanyahu but not on Israel, although it probably will.

3 Nyet  Mar 2, 2015 6:17:50pm

It is of course only up to Israelis whom to elect. But I hope they will take into account that the current PM is an irresponsible man who gambles his country’s relationship with its closest ally in hope to gain political dividends.

4 Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2015 6:19:17pm

re: #2 Dizzy

” I sincerely hope it backfires on them, as it should”

I also hope it backfires on Netanyahu but not on Israel, although it probably will.

Netanyahu is making a seriously stupid move here. But it’s not surprising - his administration has been courting the American right wing for years, getting more and more extreme.

5 Dizzy  Mar 2, 2015 6:21:08pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Agreed. He’s doing a lot of damage to the Israeli relationship with the U.S. And that is, really, really, really important.

6 Decatur Deb  Mar 2, 2015 6:22:13pm

Just realized this trip is not just pissing off the present POTUS, but perhaps the next couple.

7 blueraven  Mar 2, 2015 6:23:32pm

This whole thing just burns me up. The republicans are playing with fire as is Netanyahu.

Sure there are real differences, but the leaks, everyone acting as if there is already a deal agreed to, the complicity of the MSM is galling.

This is uncharted territory. Having a leader of another nation come to congress to directly oppose our president in a foreign policy matter is not the right way to go and it sets a terrible precedent.

8 #FergusonFireside  Mar 2, 2015 6:23:52pm
9 Shiplord Kirel  Mar 2, 2015 6:25:56pm

Imagine if some liberal European PM had come to Congress in support of the Democrats while Bush was President.

10 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 2, 2015 6:26:55pm
11 Decatur Deb  Mar 2, 2015 6:27:56pm

re: #8 #FergusonFireside

Hillary Rodham Clinton did not have a government email address while secretary of state and may have violated federal rules that officials’ correspondence be retained.

NBD. PVT Manning archived them for her.

12 CuriousLurker  Mar 2, 2015 6:29:13pm

re: #8 #FergusonFireside

Mrs. Clinton did not have a government email address during her four-year tenure at the State Department.

How is it possible that the Secretary of State isn’t automatically & immediately provided an email account?

13 PhillyPretzel  Mar 2, 2015 6:30:11pm

re: #12 CuriousLurker

Cost savings measure? I honestly have no idea.

14 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 6:30:30pm

I support Israel, but this bizarre idea that Conservatives have that we need to kowtow and curry for the Israelis favor is ridiculous.

15 Shiplord Kirel  Mar 2, 2015 6:30:42pm

“Patriot”——Figleaf of jingoistic slogans and waving flags, used by disloyal right-wing saboteurs and subversives to hide their real intentions.

16 #FergusonFireside  Mar 2, 2015 6:31:06pm

re: #12 CuriousLurker

How is it possible that the Secretary of State isn’t automatically & immediately provided an email account?

I’m trying to figure this out. She turned over over 300 emails related to Benghazi. Didn’t anyone notice at the time they were from Hillary2016@aol.com???

17 Decatur Deb  Mar 2, 2015 6:31:12pm

re: #12 CuriousLurker

How is it possible that the Secretary of State isn’t automatically & immediately provided an email account?

Microsoft Outlook.

18 nines09  Mar 2, 2015 6:31:43pm

Has the GOP done one positive thing in 7 years decades?

19 Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2015 6:32:35pm
20 Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2015 6:33:32pm

re: #18 nines09

Has the GOP done one positive thing in 7 years decades?

Thinking. Thinking…

Coming up blank.

21 Decatur Deb  Mar 2, 2015 6:35:03pm

re: #18 nines09

Has the GOP done one positive thing in 7 years decades?

I liked Ike…at first.

22 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 6:35:46pm

re: #18 nines09

Nothing comes to mind

23 bratwurst  Mar 2, 2015 6:36:42pm

Maybe Natanyahu can just repeat this speech he gave to a joint session of Congress in 1996 when he asserted that the deadline for preventing Iran from going nuclear was “extremely close”.

Can you imagine if Obama presented an award to a famously insane domestic critic of Netanyahu the way Bibi gave an award to Glenn Beck?

Can you imagine if Obama campaigned for a candidate in an Israeli election the way Bibi campaigned for Romney?

This whole situation is absolutely sickening. Nobody should be surprised that today’s GOP leaders are willing to turn anything into partisan bullshit, but it is sad that Netanyahu is willing to damage Israel’s relationship to its strongest ally for the purpose of an election campaign.

24 Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2015 6:36:47pm

Extremist bigots like Pamela Geller, Frank Gaffney and Robert Spencer are very popular with the Netanyahu administration.

25 Nyet  Mar 2, 2015 6:37:30pm

How do we know that Bibi doesn’t believe in Iran as an existential threat to Israel? He called on all European Jews to move to Israel.

26 Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2015 6:38:50pm

Caroline Glick promotes these people, and she’s very close to Netanyahu. There are also deep connections to the European neo-fascists like Geert Wilders.

27 Nyet  Mar 2, 2015 6:42:18pm


Yup, it’s true. So today it’s not Putin…

28 CuriousLurker  Mar 2, 2015 6:42:30pm

Sorry to go OT so early in the thread, but this burns me up:

From the article:

A Cypress Bay High School French teacher could lose her job after allegedly calling a Muslim student a “[bigoted word] Taliban.”

The Broward School Board will hear from the student’s father on Tuesday. The board is expected to take disciplinary action during its March 17 meeting.

Youssef Wardani, father of 14-year-old Deyab-Houssein Wardani, is pressing for the firing or suspension of Cypress Bay High School teacher Maria Valdes for her remark. […]

Regarding a February 10 meeting with the teacher:

Wardani said the meeting was less than productive.

“Her apology was robotic and empty and rehearsed,” he said. “She said it was an innocent joke and then started rolling her eyes and was huffing and puffing when I asked her questions. […]

Following the meeting Wardani was asked what outcome he wanted. He told school administrators he wanted the teacher fired or suspended for a year without pay. And, he wanted a public apology.

“They told me that the best I could hope for was a letter in her personnel file” due to teacher’s union rules, he said. […]

A joke? Really? Hmm, let’s see—the teacher’s name is Maria Valdes… What do you suppose would happen if (as an “innocent joke”, mind you) a student called her a spic or a beaner in front of the class?

29 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 6:44:55pm
30 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 2, 2015 6:45:31pm

re: #14 Kragar

I support Israel, but this bizarre idea that Conservatives have that we need to kowtow and curry for the Israelis favor is ridiculous.

Not the Israelis favor—Bibi’s favor. Because Bibi panders to the evangelical crowd.

31 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 6:46:42pm

re: #30 The Mother Of All Pies

Not the Israelis favor—Bibi’s favor. Because Bibi panders to the evangelical crowd.

True.

32 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 2, 2015 6:48:51pm

I saw this meme and it reminded me of spacejesus. He hasn’t been around here in a while.

33 Nyet  Mar 2, 2015 6:49:29pm

I can’t stand the expression, I must say. But if one uses it, one must be realistic: only a US President has enough power to contend for it.

34 Decatur Deb  Mar 2, 2015 6:51:18pm

re: #32 The Mother Of All Pies

I saw this meme and it reminded me of spacejesus. He hasn’t been around here in a while.

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We’re good, I think. He’s Gluten-Free Jesus now.

35 Timothy Watson  Mar 2, 2015 6:51:34pm

CSI Cyber: As if CBS’s shows’ writing of technology stuff couldn’t get any worse.

36 BeachDem  Mar 2, 2015 6:52:13pm

And, of course, just to add another layer of idiocy, Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods is selling “I stand with Bibi” shirts, because of course she is.

Remember when Bibi welcomed Sarah to Israel? Good times.

theweek.com

37 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 6:52:44pm

re: #35 Timothy Watson

CSI Cyber: As if CBS’s shows’ writing of technology stuff couldn’t get any worse.

“Look, there is a reflection in the ring the guy is wearing. ENHANCE THE PIXELS!”

38 ObserverArt  Mar 2, 2015 6:53:34pm

The only positive I’ve seen out of the GOP since the late 80s is they have shown we have a big problem in our country with religion and bigotry in many forms creeping into our politics either for the first time or coming back with a vengeance (bigotry).

Sometimes positives can be in negatives. Now, the big challenge is how long will it continue until someone in the GOP finally grow a spine and kicks the Tea Party and neo conservative Bircher-type thinking out before there is no GOP left to save.

One reason we haven’t seen anything in decades is we haven’t seen a true Republican party in decades. They lost the plot and decided to go with fringe instead of center.

Rush Limbaugh has been around…for decades. Hmmm.

39 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 2, 2015 6:55:11pm
40 Timothy Watson  Mar 2, 2015 6:55:48pm

re: #37 Kragar

“Look, there is a reflection in the ring the guy is wearing. ENHANCE THE PIXELS!”

GET HIS FINGERPRINTS OFF OF THE VCR RECORDING!

LOOK AT THE HANDS!1!!

41 Decatur Deb  Mar 2, 2015 6:56:52pm

re: #38 ObserverArt

The only positive I’ve seen out of the GOP since the late 80s is they have shown we have a big problem in our country with religion and bigotry in many forms creeping into our politics either for the first time or coming back with a vengeance (bigotry).

Sometimes positives can be in negatives. Now, the big challenge is how long will it continue until someone in the GOP finally grow a spine and kicks the Tea Party and neo conservative Bircher-type thinking out before there is no GOP left to save.

One reason we haven’t seen anything in decades is we haven’t seen a true Republican party in decades. They lost the plot and decided to go with fringe instead of center.

Rush Limbaugh has been around…for decades. Hmmm.

Alternate take: This is the true face of reaction, lodged in the GOP since they pushed out the TR progressives. The post-FDR accomodation to reality was the aberration.

42 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 2, 2015 6:56:56pm

re: #39 The Mother Of All Pies

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That is why, for all of it’s flaws, I still prefer America’s Winner Takes All election system. 23% and he’s the boss…

43 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 6:57:46pm

re: #40 Timothy Watson

GET HIS FINGERPRINTS OFF OF THE VCR RECORDING!

LOOK AT THE HANDS!1!!

“We found the suspect’s IP address, which has 5 octets and numbers in the 300s. Let me run a reverse look up and we’ll get his real name and home address in about 3 seconds.”

44 Nyet  Mar 2, 2015 6:58:56pm

re: #43 Kragar

“We found the suspect’s IP address, which has 5 octets and numbers in the 300s. Let me run a reverse look up and we’ll get his real name and home address in about 3 seconds.”

We’ll zoom and enhance these bytes…

45 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 6:59:52pm

re: #44 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

We’ll zoom and enhance these bytes…

“We drew blood work and we’ll have a complete DNA and toxicology screening done for you while the suspect is still in the lobby.”

46 b_sharp  Mar 2, 2015 7:01:02pm

re: #43 Kragar

“We found the suspect’s IP address, which has 5 octets and numbers in the 300s. Let me run a reverse look up and we’ll get his real name and home address in about 3 seconds.”

Maybe they use IPv8?

47 Nyet  Mar 2, 2015 7:02:09pm

re: #45 Kragar

“We drew blood work and we’ll have a complete DNA and toxicology screening done for you while the suspect is still in the lobby.”

The clone will be ready in 15 min.

48 Belafon  Mar 2, 2015 7:03:58pm

re: #42 William Barnett-Lewis

Clinton won with less than 50% of the vote. Are you against switching to the popular vote?

49 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 2, 2015 7:04:34pm

re: #43 Kragar

“We found the suspect’s IP address, which has 5 octets and numbers in the 300s. Let me run a reverse look up and we’ll get his real name and home address in about 3 seconds.”

Now let me bounce that name across the location tracking of all the cell phones in the city over the last 3 months to find any connection between him and his victims. Done.

RBS

50 stpaulbear  Mar 2, 2015 7:04:46pm

OT again about the LGBT civil rights protections hearing in Charolette:

Anti-LGBT rights leaders are physically harassing trans people as they try to use the city hall bathrooms.

51 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 7:04:52pm

…

52 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 7:06:04pm

…

53 electrotek  Mar 2, 2015 7:06:06pm

re: #28 CuriousLurker

Sorry to go OT so early in the thread, but this burns me up:

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From the article:

Regarding a February 10 meeting with the teacher:

A joke? Really? Hmm, let’s see—the teacher’s name is Maria Valdes… What do you suppose would happen if (as an “innocent joke”, mind you) a student called her a spic or a beaner in front of the class?

She’s most likely Cuban, so I doubt any of those slurs would apply to her.

Maybe gusano, perhaps?

54 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 2, 2015 7:06:35pm

re: #42 William Barnett-Lewis

That is why, for all of it’s flaws, I still prefer America’s Winner Takes All election system. 23% and he’s the boss…

Israel has a fucked up electoral system with unlimited parties and no regional representation.

55 ObserverArt  Mar 2, 2015 7:06:43pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

Alternate take: This is the true face of reaction, lodged in the GOP since they pushed out the TR progressives. The post-FDR accomodation to reality was the aberration.

Could very well be.

I was judging my own time viewing politics seriously. I actually voted for Nixon (cringe…first vote) but by the time I saw Ronnie Reagan I could see where they were heading. Add in the Jesus Freak movement of the 70s to U.S. Reagan and doing real important work like sicking Edwin Meese on porno and we are seeing it all in full effect now.

By the way…did anyone know Meese has a fellowship at Heritage Foundation? Imagine my surprise.

56 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 7:07:07pm

…

57 Decatur Deb  Mar 2, 2015 7:07:22pm

re: #53 electrotek

She’s most likely Cuban, so I doubt any of those slurs would apply to her.

Maybe gusano, perhaps?

Gusano was inverted by anti-Castro types like Alpha-66 in the 60s. They adopted it as a badge of pride.

58 Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2015 7:07:38pm
59 A Cranky One  Mar 2, 2015 7:08:15pm

re: #51 Kragar

It’s easy to resolve that kind of detail. You just have to use different sized pixels. ////

60 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 2, 2015 7:08:34pm

re: #48 Belafon

I’m more concerned with those who think that we’ll get more responsive government by busting apart the two big parties into dozens of littler ones in a parliamentary system.

As for the EC vs popular vote, there are deep flaws both ways.

In the end the devil we know is bad enough…

61 electrotek  Mar 2, 2015 7:08:50pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

Gusano was inverted by anti-Castro types like Alpha-66 in the 60s. They adopted it as a badge of pride.

Oh shit, never mind then.

Maybe if someone called her the bastard child of a dictator, she wouldn’t have liked that.

62 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 2, 2015 7:14:44pm

re: #61 electrotek

Oh shit, never mind then.

Maybe if someone called her the bastard child of a dictator, she wouldn’t have liked that.

I think CL’s point stands without having to come up with the specific flavor of insult to use.

63 electrotek  Mar 2, 2015 7:18:28pm

re: #62 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think CL’s point stands without having to come up with the specific flavor of insult to use.

Fair enough. I’m guilty of playing fire with fire a lot of times.

64 Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2015 7:19:09pm
65 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 7:20:31pm
66 Decatur Deb  Mar 2, 2015 7:20:55pm

re: #62 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think CL’s point stands without having to come up with the specific flavor of insult to use.

The irritating part of that story is the lame administrator hiding behind the union protections. If a manager hasn’t learned to control the workplace within the boundaries of a contract, they’re incompetent. We had a case here:

Principle: “The last time we tried to discipline this teacher it cost us $100K.”
Lawyer/Parent: “It’s going to cost you $100K if I sue you.”

67 The War TARDIS  Mar 2, 2015 7:23:26pm

re: #60 William Barnett-Lewis

Couldn’t you put a floor on the amount of votes needed to secure representation? I know in Sweden, you need 5% to get representation.

Though, I notice the Arab Parties wouldn’t have gotten any represention in this case, though considering how Arabs and their communities are treated in Israel, would there have been an actual difference?

68 Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2015 7:28:06pm
69 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 2, 2015 7:28:12pm

re: #50 stpaulbear

OT again about the LGBT civil rights protections hearing in Charolette:

Anti-LGBT rights leaders are physically harassing trans people as they try to use the city hall bathrooms.

Olivia also said that Benham joined in the confrontation. Benham’s fellow activist, Ante Pavkovic, apparently recorded the incident, but Benham refused to show qnotes the video, saying he’ll send it to Shawn Hannity at Fox News.

Fuckers.

70 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 2, 2015 7:29:01pm
“I don’t want a pervert like yourself trying to misrepresent what happened in there when that young boy went into that bathroom with the young girls,” Benham said.

The teenager said she responded angrily, calling Benham an “asshole,” but her mother, Darlena, said she felt Benham was the aggressor. She stepped between them. As they walked away, Benham allegedly said the teenager should be arrested.

Benham called the teenager a “punk” and a “pervert” and claimed there were children in the restroom.

“He was in the bathroom with the kids. That boy was in with our girls,” Benham said, when asked if he thought it was appropriate to confront a 17 year old.

And what a wonderful loving Christian this guy is.

71 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 2, 2015 7:39:32pm

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

And what a wonderful loving Christian this guy is.

Probably a brother to this guy… Northern Idaho senator objects to Hindu prayer…

BOISE - A North Idaho senator is objecting to allowing a Hindu prayer as the opening invocation for the Idaho Senate on Tuesday morning, and says he’ll walk out.

Sen. Steve Vick, R-Dalton Gardens, said, “They have a caste system. They worship cows.” He acknowledged the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution allows any kind of prayer, but said he thinks the Hindu one shouldn’t be allowed to open the Senate, as the United States was “built on the Judeo-Christian not only religion but work ethic, and I don’t want to see that undermined.”

“I’m very supportive of the way this country was built, and I don’t want us to move away from it,” Vick declared.

72 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 2, 2015 7:41:22pm

re: #71 RealityBasedSteve

Where’s that desk flipping GIF when I need it?

73 A Cranky One  Mar 2, 2015 7:42:21pm

re: #66 Decatur Deb

The irritating part of that story is the lame administrator hiding behind the union protections. If a manager hasn’t learned to control the workplace within the boundaries of a contract, they’re incompetent. We had a case here:

Principle: “The last time we tried to discipline this teacher it cost us $100K.”
Lawyer/Parent: “It’s going to cost you $100K if I sue you.”

If the teacher was capable of uttering such filth, it’s likely that the bigotry extended to grading, classroom interactions with the student, etc. I wonder if other students also suffered such treatment.

If the teacher isn’t disciplined to the greatest extent possible, the school system will be giving tacit approval to the behavior. I only hope that the school district has more humanity than their disgraceful employee.

74 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 7:42:22pm

re: #72 Eclectic Cyborg

Where’s that desk flipping GIF when I need it?

75 #FergusonFireside  Mar 2, 2015 7:43:08pm
76 TedStriker  Mar 2, 2015 7:43:57pm

re: #72 Eclectic Cyborg

Where’s that desk flipping GIF when I need it?

77 lostlakehiker  Mar 2, 2015 7:44:53pm

re: #28 CuriousLurker

Sorry to go OT so early in the thread, but this burns me up:

[Embedded content]

From the article:

Regarding a February 10 meeting with the teacher:

A joke? Really? Hmm, let’s see—the teacher’s name is Maria Valdes… What do you suppose would happen if (as an “innocent joke”, mind you) a student called her a spic or a beaner in front of the class?

Agreed. And what is the main obstacle to justice? Union work rules.

78 Jenner7  Mar 2, 2015 7:44:55pm

re: #75 #FergusonFireside

Oh lordy. ::hurl::

79 retired cynic  Mar 2, 2015 7:45:38pm

re: #75 #FergusonFireside

Dear God!

80 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 2, 2015 7:46:01pm

re: #75 #FergusonFireside
Oh hell no…

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I like roller coasters… but that would have me in sheer terror, and also all the “deep-fried foods on a stick” from the midway would go flying out across many square yards.

RBS

81 goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2015 7:46:55pm

That thing when you take your MBP to the Apple Store for some dead pixels because it’s still under the extended warranty and they’re super helpful and agree to replace the screen for free but it’ll take a few days and you say okay no prob and go home and use your five year old laptop and it feels really slow now and it’s WORSE THAN HITLER!

82 Bubblehead II  Mar 2, 2015 7:46:58pm

re: #72 Eclectic Cyborg

Where’s that desk flipping GIF when I need it?

Take your pick.

83 bratwurst  Mar 2, 2015 7:48:03pm

re: #77 lostlakehiker

Agreed. And what is the main obstacle to justice? Union work rules.

When the only tool you have is a Koch brothers hammer, every problem begins to look like a union nail.

84 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 2, 2015 7:49:33pm

re: #81 goddamnedfrank

That thing when you take your MBP to the Apple Store for some dead pixels because it’s still under the extended warranty and they’re super helpful and agree to replace the screen for free but it’ll take a few days and you say okay no prob and go home and use your five year old laptop and it feels really slow now and it’s WORSE THAN HITLER!

It’s all Obama’s fault.
/

85 Decatur Deb  Mar 2, 2015 7:49:45pm

Too late for this. ‘Nite, all.

86 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mar 2, 2015 7:49:45pm

re: #53 electrotek

She’s most likely Cuban, so I doubt any of those slurs would apply to her.

Maybe gusano, perhaps?

Unlike “Taliban”, which applies perfectly to the American child of Lebanese and Moroccan immigrants?

87 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 2, 2015 7:49:48pm

re: #83 bratwurst

When the only tool you have is a Koch brothers hammer, every problem begins to look like a union nail.

Some things are very, very predictable.

88 electrotek  Mar 2, 2015 7:50:19pm

re: #71 RealityBasedSteve

Probably a brother to this guy… Northern Idaho senator objects to Hindu prayer…

I wonder how will Islamophobic Hindu fanatics will react to this.

89 Varek Raith  Mar 2, 2015 7:51:23pm

re: #77 lostlakehiker

Agreed. And what is the main obstacle to justice? Union work rules.

Then what do you propose?

90 #FergusonFireside  Mar 2, 2015 7:51:27pm

re: #79 retired cynic

Dear God!

How in the hell did the engineers figure to reattach that thing?????

91 retired cynic  Mar 2, 2015 7:53:56pm

re: #90 #FergusonFireside

How in the hell did the engineers figure to reattach that thing?????

I don’t wanna know!

92 blueraven  Mar 2, 2015 7:55:08pm

I cant imagine what Hillary was thinking. I will wait for some kind of explanation but , WTF?

This, coupled with the Clinton Foundation foreign donation news is just crazy bad.

The Democrats need a Come to Jesus moment. Who else do we have?

Biden…love him, but don’t think he could win, ditto Warren. We are screwed.

93 A Cranky One  Mar 2, 2015 7:56:20pm

re: #75 #FergusonFireside

It’s a trebuchet that flings vomit! How….runs toward bathroom

94 Shiplord Kirel  Mar 2, 2015 7:56:49pm

re: #75 #FergusonFireside

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Reminds me of the scene in Contact where the alien-designed “Machine” disintegrates after the fundy sabotaged it.

95 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 2, 2015 7:57:20pm

re: #76 TedStriker

Thanks! :P

96 b_sharp  Mar 2, 2015 7:57:41pm

re: #75 #FergusonFireside

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I don’t think these are real. The G forces alone would kill a few people.

97 Great White Snark  Mar 2, 2015 7:58:38pm

re: #94 Shiplord Kirel

Reminds me of the scene in Contact where the alien-designed “Machine” disintegrates after the fundy sabotaged it.

20 minutes of blank video.

98 WhatEVs  Mar 2, 2015 8:01:13pm

re: #96 b_sharp

I don’t think these are real. The G forces alone would kill a few people.

That’s exactly what I thought. It looks completely fake to me.

99 stpaulbear  Mar 2, 2015 8:01:47pm

re: #94 Shiplord Kirel

Reminds me of the scene in Contact where the alien-designed “Machine” disintegrates after the fundy sabotaged it.

It reminded me of this:

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100 Jenner7  Mar 2, 2015 8:01:51pm

So, when will Chaffetz schedule an investigation into Clinton’s emails?

101 goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2015 8:02:11pm

re: #90 #FergusonFireside

How in the hell did the engineers figure to reattach that thing?????

It’s fake. From this video.

…

102 Belafon  Mar 2, 2015 8:03:42pm

re: #82 Bubblehead II

I love that Regular Show has made it to being used as an example.

103 palomino  Mar 2, 2015 8:04:46pm

re: #92 blueraven

I cant imagine what Hillary was thinking. I will wait for some kind of explanation but , WTF?

This, coupled with the Clinton Foundation foreign donation news is just crazy bad.

The Democrats need a Come to Jesus moment. Who else do we have?

Biden…love him, but don’t think he could win, ditto Warren. We are screwed.

Look on the bright side. The ethical bar for Hillary is pretty low, since the American public already knows about her past…and she still polls ahead of all the GOP candidates by double digits. Furthermore, it’s unlikely that she’ll be running against some Republican who’s squeaky clean.

The best arguments for Hillary are simple: 1) there aren’t any other Dems ready to run; 2) she’s been around the block, so at least knows how DC runs; and 3) she’s less extreme than any of the GOPers.

The Dems don’t have an Obama this time, so we’ll have to make due with what we get. The alternative is the GOP controlling both houses of Congress, the WH, and getting to further tilt the Supreme Court to the right (Ginsburg won’t live forever).

104 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 2, 2015 8:07:18pm

re: #103 palomino

In other words: Hillary is a shit sandwich, but there’s a dab of mayo.

105 lostlakehiker  Mar 2, 2015 8:11:24pm

re: #92 blueraven

I cant imagine what Hillary was thinking. I will wait for some kind of explanation but , WTF?

This, coupled with the Clinton Foundation foreign donation news is just crazy bad.

The Democrats need a Come to Jesus moment. Who else do we have?

Biden…love him, but don’t think he could win, ditto Warren. We are screwed.

Kirsten Gillebrand? And don’t forget—-over on the other side, the Republican “we” is just as sure that it’s screwed. “We” can’t get a candidate who will win even those African-American and Hispanic votes that in the normal course of events [voting their own personal and economic class interests] would go that way. The nomination process kicks out either a nutcase, or a sane guy who’s had to kiss so many rings that by the time he gets to the general election, he’s burned out, he’s said too much that he can’t walk back, and he’s boxed in by that which he’s said.

Nominate a centrist Democrat other than Hillary or McCain[sorry, Biden], and the election is a walkover for the Democrats.

Nominate Warren, and it’s up in the air. Could go either way. Nominate Hillary, and it’s odds on she wins, and yet—-she has this whiff of tone-deafness. She has, I think, the ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Again, actually, since she was the all but inevitable Democrat nominee 7 or 8 years ago.

106 WhatEVs  Mar 2, 2015 8:11:36pm

re: #101 goddamnedfrank

It’s fake. From this video.

[Embedded content]

That’s kinda awesome. Such “honesty and sincerity”!

107 Belafon  Mar 2, 2015 8:11:45pm

re: #104 Higgs Boson’s Mate

In other words: Hillary is a shit sandwich, but there’s a dab of mayo.

I believe it’s more like “but you should see what’s on the other sandwich.”

108 Shiplord Kirel  Mar 2, 2015 8:12:04pm

Here it is, machine explosion from Contact

…

109 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 2, 2015 8:12:51pm

And as proof that we are in the end times, Mark Cuban and Ann Coulter have been cast as President and VP in Sharknado 3

110 bratwurst  Mar 2, 2015 8:13:39pm
111 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 8:13:52pm

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel

Here it is, machine explosion from Contact

[Embedded content]

Video

“LOOK OUT! WE’VE GOT A BUSEY ON THE SITE!”

112 retired cynic  Mar 2, 2015 8:15:50pm

re: #101 goddamnedfrank

It’s fake. From this video.

[Embedded content]

Whew! I feel safer already!

113 Belafon  Mar 2, 2015 8:16:35pm

re: #105 lostlakehiker

She has, I think, the ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Again, actually, since she was the all but inevitable Democrat nominee 7 or 8 years ago.

The opposite of her winning is not necessarily that she lost it. Obama ran a near perfect campaign, one facet of which was that he played every rule of the nominating process to the letter. Also, isn’t it true that Democrats don’t necessarily do inevitable nominees?

114 goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2015 8:19:04pm

re: #112 retired cynic

Whew! I feel safer already!

Charles posted it back in the (two years ago) day is why I remembered it.

115 Jenner7  Mar 2, 2015 8:22:04pm

Well, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Hillary Clinton is by far the best candidate (that has a chance) for this country. If you don’t want a Republican extremist that will turn back the clock, bite your tongue and vote Democrat.

I personally don’t mind seeing Hillary in the WH. She’s only a Clinton by marriage, so the whole “not another Clinton” kinda bugs me.

We’ll see. It will certainly be entertaining.

116 retired cynic  Mar 2, 2015 8:27:53pm

re: #115 Jenner7

She’s not really liberal enough for me, but she is certainly closer than anyone else I see running.

117 blueraven  Mar 2, 2015 8:31:31pm

re: #103 palomino

Look on the bright side. The ethical bar for Hillary is pretty low, since the American public already knows about her past…and she still polls ahead of all the GOP candidates by double digits. Furthermore, it’s unlikely that she’ll be running against some Republican who’s squeaky clean.

The best arguments for Hillary are simple: 1) there aren’t any other Dems ready to run; 2) she’s been around the block, so at least knows how DC runs; and 3) she’s less extreme than any of the GOPers.

The Dems don’t have an Obama this time, so we’ll have to make due with what we get. The alternative is the GOP controlling both houses of Congress, the WH, and getting to further tilt the Supreme Court to the right (Ginsburg won’t live forever).

Yes, she polls ahead of the R’s now. Hell, nobody has more than 25% support on that side. But they will have debates and pick a candidate. Excitement will be generated on their side.

A story like this can do real harm, and quite frankly, unless there is a really good explanation for this, it will be deserved. Remember the grief we all gave Sarah Palin for using personal email for gov business?

Anyone who thinks the Rs cant win the presidency, just remember 2014 when everyone stayed home except the republicans. (Yes, I know…midterms! but still)

Unless we find a way go get some excitement on our side, it will be difficult to win. I thought Hillary was our best hope. This kind of news is depressing.

118 Dark_Falcon  Mar 2, 2015 8:32:13pm

re: #100 Jenner7

So, when will Chaffetz schedule an investigation into Clinton’s emails?

in a few weeks, if he does. He’ll wait to see if there’s anything worth a hearing first, unlike Darryl ‘Big Mouth’ Issa. He’s also going to be busy calling the Secret Service onto the carpet after yet more White House security breeches. But in that he’ll have support from the other side of the aisle, so he’ll likely attend to that before turning to Hillary.

119 goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2015 8:32:30pm

I think whoever the Democrats nominate they should just show up on a gigantic walking robotic death throne and say “Who the fuck else are you going to vote for?”

Because it’s true.

120 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 8:32:37pm

re: #115 Jenner7

Well, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Hillary Clinton is by far the best candidate (that has a chance) for this country. If you don’t want a Republican extremist that will turn back the clock, bite your tongue and vote Democrat.

I personally don’t mind seeing Hillary in the WH. She’s only a Clinton by marriage, so the whole “not another Clinton” kinda bugs me.

We’ll see. It will certainly be entertaining.

Given the choice between Hillary and any GOP politician currently courting a Presidential run, Hillary is really the only choice.

I wouldn’t vote for Hillary in a primary, but if she was on the ballot come November, I’d do it.

121 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 8:34:39pm

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

+1 for Inquisitor Fyodor Karamazov

“There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court. A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty.”

122 #FergusonFireside  Mar 2, 2015 8:36:20pm

I’m still wondering about the Benghazi emails she turned over. Were they made public? Did the people reading them note her email addy?

123 The War TARDIS  Mar 2, 2015 8:37:41pm

re: #117 blueraven

What about O’Malley of Maryland, or Dayton of Minnesota?

124 Great White Snark  Mar 2, 2015 8:44:31pm

re: #103 palomino

Look on the bright side. The ethical bar for Hillary is pretty low, since the American public already knows about her past…

The best arguments for Hillary are simple: 1) there aren’t any other Dems ready to run; 2) she’s been around the block, so at least knows how DC runs…

The Dems don’t have an Obama this time, so we’ll have to make due with what we get.

How is this even possible?!? Come on gotta do better than “she’s been around” and “not extreme like the GOP guys”. I don’t want the GOP to win but I’m an indy. From my view that’s pretty damn weak tea. Our system has failed to produce a selection of capable candidates.

125 retired cynic  Mar 2, 2015 8:45:38pm

re: #123 The War TARDIS

I want to know more about them, specifically if they are interested! It’s a very tough job, and getting to it is a ghastly road. And they have to be statesmen, underneath all the talk.

126 Snarknado!  Mar 2, 2015 8:45:53pm

re: #92 blueraven

I cant imagine what Hillary was thinking. I will wait for some kind of explanation but , WTF?

This, coupled with the Clinton Foundation foreign donation news is just crazy bad.

The Democrats need a Come to Jesus moment. Who else do we have?

Biden…love him, but don’t think he could win, ditto Warren. We are screwed.

I may be misreading this but… isn’t using a personal email not according to standard procedure, but not actually against the rules?

And the issue is whether she preserved the emails, not how she sent them?

(I could make a good argument, I think, that there’s no need to do anything to preserve an email in this day and age — the problem is finding a permanent way to delete them, although of course rules is rules. But if she does/did actually turn over all her emails, the scandal of her failing to save them herself might just blow away.)

127 The War TARDIS  Mar 2, 2015 8:46:18pm

re: #124 Great White Snark

Martin O’Malley, former Governor of Maryland is thinking about running.

I think he would be pretty solid.

128 Jenner7  Mar 2, 2015 8:48:36pm

re: #120 Kragar

The only person I’d vote for over Hillary is Bernie Sanders.

129 Mich-again  Mar 2, 2015 8:50:11pm

I wish Jon Stewart would run in the GOP primary long enough to get into a couple of the debates.

130 retired cynic  Mar 2, 2015 8:50:23pm

re: #128 Jenner7

Oh, I like him, and I hope he runs. I don’t think he has a hope, but I would love to see that POV have a voice in the primaries.

131 LastYearsMan  Mar 2, 2015 8:50:57pm

As much as I dislike Hillary Clinton, after eight years of Obama she’d at least have the benefit of being a fighter for what she believed in. None of that silliness about trying to be liked by the Republicans.

On the other hand, the Wall Street-ization of America would most likely continue unabated. So I’m still more in the Elizabeth Warren camp overall.

132 Varek Raith  Mar 2, 2015 8:56:10pm

re: #128 Jenner7

The only person I’d vote for over Hillary is Bernie Sanders.

Who would have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning a general.

133 Mich-again  Mar 2, 2015 8:58:47pm

Sheldon Adelson paid $200M for this commercial. Its the least John Boehner could give him.

134 #FergusonFireside  Mar 2, 2015 8:59:09pm
135 blueraven  Mar 2, 2015 8:59:18pm

re: #123 The War TARDIS

What about O’Malley of Maryland, or Dayton of Minnesota?

Who won in the MD governors race? O’Malley didn’t help much there.
Dayton who?

136 The War TARDIS  Mar 2, 2015 8:59:28pm

re: #132 Varek Raith

Well, for now.

The left has to move the Overton Window slowly to the left again. The best thing theleft can do is start actually acting like we are in a Culture War. you start be doing IRS investigation of Politically Active Conservative Churches, for one.

137 The War TARDIS  Mar 2, 2015 9:00:12pm

re: #135 blueraven

Governor Dayton of Minnesota. He seems to be doing a good job in his state.

138 retired cynic  Mar 2, 2015 9:00:45pm

re: #136 The War TARDIS

Boomerang.

139 bratwurst  Mar 2, 2015 9:01:30pm

Let’s all take a deep breath here. This current supposed Hillary “scandal” is already falling apart under scrutiny.

If Mrs. Clinton is not to your taste, I would also like to suggest taking a deep breath and reminding yourself the election is still 20 months away. As we saw on the GOP side during the last cycle, there is absolutely no benefit whatsoever in being an early frontrunner.

Furthermore, it is less important for Democrat hopefuls to start their campaigns this early. While donors with deep pockets are a necessary ingredient for ANY campaign, there is no equivalent of the “Adelson primary” on the left…so no impetus to get out in public and brag about ideological purity at this stage in the process.

140 Nyet  Mar 2, 2015 9:02:10pm

re: #121 Kragar

+1 for Inquisitor Fyodor Karamazov

Really? Are there also Bilbo Tolkien and Stephen Pennywise in that world?

141 WhatEVs  Mar 2, 2015 9:04:52pm

re: #131 LastYearsMan

How comfortable would you be on Warren and foreign policy? I think she’s really light in governing experience. A couple of years as a senator, and that’s it. That gives me the heeby jeebies.

I love her fire and that she really sticks up for the average Joe. But is it enough to be POTUS?

142 Mich-again  Mar 2, 2015 9:05:01pm

re: #136 The War TARDIS

I say start by going after the tax frauds like ALEC ( Tax ID is 52-0140979) who claim the same 501c3 charitable tax exemption. They’re not a lobbying organization because they wrote the legislation.

143 blueraven  Mar 2, 2015 9:08:26pm

re: #142 Mich-again

I say start by going after the tax frauds like ALEC ( Tax ID is 52-0140979) who claim the same 501c3 charitable tax exemption. They’re not a lobbying organization because they wrote the legislation.

I am fine with investigation of these orgs, but not by the IRS.

144 Mich-again  Mar 2, 2015 9:09:06pm

re: #143 blueraven

I am fine with investigation of these orgs, but not by the IRS.

Why not? They lied on the IRS form.

145 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 9:10:26pm

re: #140 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Really? Are there also Bilbo Tolkien and Stephen Pennywise in that world?

They’re not so subtle with their allusions at time.

One of their other characters is Konrad Curze, from the planet Nostramo.

Another is named Lion El’Jonson, of the Dark Angels.

146 blueraven  Mar 2, 2015 9:11:06pm

re: #144 Mich-again

Why not? They lied on the IRS form.

They are inept at it.

147 WhatEVs  Mar 2, 2015 9:13:55pm

re: #143 blueraven

I am fine with investigation of these orgs, but not by the IRS.

Who else would investigate IRS status other than the IRS?

148 LastYearsMan  Mar 2, 2015 9:13:58pm

re: #141 WhatEVs

I wouldn’t be overjoyed with her experience on foreign policy. But, then, how great have the “seasoned pros” been over the past few decades? It seems to me that an America that is doing well at home is much less likely to screw around and screw up the rest of the world.

But I’d like the US military to pull out of 95% of its international bases, so what do I know?

149 goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2015 9:17:54pm

re: #132 Varek Raith

Who would have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning a general.

Yeah, Bernie has the benefit of being sincere but is totally dismissible by far too many people.

Tammy “Lucky for me he’s an ass man.” Duckworth.

True story: Her call sign was Mad Dog 06.

Born in Bangkok to a US serviceman father, she should announce immediately after Ted Cruz does just to troll the everlovin’ fuck out of Republicans.

150 Varek Raith  Mar 2, 2015 9:17:56pm

re: #146 blueraven

They are inept at it.

…

151 freetoken  Mar 2, 2015 9:18:35pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

“Pop” and “Imap” - were those the names of those two llamas that got a taste of freedom?

152 Mich-again  Mar 2, 2015 9:19:15pm

Is anyone OK that this explanation is all that it takes for an obviously political organization like ALEC to claim a 501c3 charitable tax exemption just like a Church? This means that when Charles Koch or PepsiCo gives them $50K it’s a tax deduction. The whole thing stinks.

ALEC briefly describes their Mission to the IRS
153 Varek Raith  Mar 2, 2015 9:20:59pm

I just realized I’m far too young to be this damn cynical.
Or not.
:P

154 retired cynic  Mar 2, 2015 9:21:44pm

re: #153 Varek Raith

Nope. It’s something you have when you are young, that you TRY to grow out of.

155 Mich-again  Mar 2, 2015 9:21:48pm

The real IRS scandal is that they regularly rubber stamp approval for lobbying organizations like these to qualify for taxpayer subsidies.

156 Nyet  Mar 2, 2015 9:22:06pm

re: #153 Varek Raith

I just realized I’m far too young to be this damn cynical.
Or not.
:P

At 30k years this is normal.

157 blueraven  Mar 2, 2015 9:23:25pm

re: #147 WhatEVs

Who else would investigate IRS status other than the IRS?

The debacle that was the IRS “investigations” of conservative political groups has rendered them useless.

Maybe if every single political org had to adhere to the statutes as they were written, we wouldn’t have all these political groups posing as “charities”.
What is needed, is for the rules to be applied across the board.

158 Single-handed sailor  Mar 2, 2015 9:24:58pm

Wait, we’re supposed to grow out of it?

159 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 2, 2015 9:25:06pm

OT: I wonder how successful the anti-vaxxers would be in Pakistan?

Pakistan jails 471 parents who refused to give polio vaccine to children
theguardian.com

In Pakistan’s case, it seems religious extremism and misinformation have resulted in a polio outbreak.

The disease has been common since the Taliban banned vaccinations and attacked medical workers. Some Pakistanis are suspicious about vaccinations, fearing they will sterilise their children.

160 retired cynic  Mar 2, 2015 9:25:30pm

re: #158 Single-handed sailor

Wait, we’re supposed to grow out of it?

TRY!

161 Mattand  Mar 2, 2015 9:27:18pm

re: #151 freetoken

“Pop” and “Imap” - were those the names of those two llamas that got a taste of freedom?

I believe those are the names of the gnomes in Albanina Xmas stories who shower good children with Ace Hardware coupons and thimble puppets, and bad children with used dental floss and antique doorknobs.

162 goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2015 9:28:50pm

re: #145 Kragar

They’re not so subtle with their allusions at time.

One of their other characters is Konrad Curze, from the planet Nostramo.

Another is named Lion El’Jonson, of the Dark Angels.

Also Inquisitor Torquemada Coteaz.

163 Single-handed sailor  Mar 2, 2015 9:33:58pm

re: #160 retired cynic

TRY!

I watched California go for Reagan in 1980, they just had him for Governor for 8 years, did they not pay fucking attention? I have no faith.

164 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 9:37:31pm

re: #162 goddamnedfrank

Also Inquisitor Torquemada Coteaz.

Amateurs imitate, professionals steal.

165 BeachDem  Mar 2, 2015 9:38:44pm

re: #127 The War TARDIS

Martin O’Malley, former Governor of Maryland is thinking about running.

I think he would be pretty solid.

Here’s the prediction I made yesterday (after having met O’Malley a the day before, in fact.)

O’Malley runs for awhile in the primary and then Hillary picks him as VP.

littlegreenfootballs.com

166 blueraven  Mar 2, 2015 9:44:56pm

re: #165 BeachDem

Here’s the prediction I made yesterday (after having met O’Malley a the day before, in fact.)

O’Malley runs for awhile in the primary and then Hillary picks him as VP.

littlegreenfootballs.com

How about Joaquin Castro for VP?

167 blueraven  Mar 2, 2015 9:47:09pm

re: #166 blueraven

How about Joaquin Castro for VP?

Ack…I meant Julian Castro.

168 retired cynic  Mar 2, 2015 9:50:08pm

re: #167 blueraven

Take ‘em both, and let them tag-team it.

169 blueraven  Mar 2, 2015 9:52:10pm

re: #168 retired cynic

Take ‘em both, and let them tag-team it.

Now there’s your excitement!

170 goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2015 9:52:23pm

Realizing that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is going to come back I’m going to be all WHY U NO PEGGY CARTER!!!

171 Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2015 9:56:22pm
172 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 2, 2015 10:14:42pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

and with that, I’m going to retire for the evening.

RBS

173 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 2, 2015 10:20:00pm
174 BeachDem  Mar 2, 2015 10:20:14pm

re: #168 retired cynic

Take ‘em both, and let them tag-team it.

I really like both of the Castro brothers, but I think they need a little bit more time before they’re ready (they’re only 40.) I think naming Julian to a cabinet position was for the seasoning—and I see big things in their futures, but likely not 2016.

175 goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2015 10:26:50pm

So the NYT just posted a craptastic clickbait story full of bullshit implications and everyone ran with it, great. Now she’s going to become President and force us all to watch Glee and Cop Rock until everyone drowns in the gay.

176 Varek Raith  Mar 2, 2015 10:33:49pm

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

So the NYT just posted a craptastic clickbait story full of bullshit implications and everyone ran with it, great. Now she’s going to become President and force us all to watch Glee and Cop Rock until everyone drowns in the gay.

Pretty much.

177 freetoken  Mar 2, 2015 10:35:07pm

I see where Google is going to rebrand G+ and split out the hangouts and the photos.

It’s all so confusing.

And for some reason when I go to google+ in Chrome the memory usage goes way up, the system slows down.

One thing I really dislike, and many websites do it now, is replace the standard window scrollbar with the narrower one without any scroll buttons. G+ does this and I find it quite annoying.

178 goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2015 10:37:12pm
179 FemNaziBitch  Mar 2, 2015 10:37:23pm

Just a drive-by. Posting by from my phone. Computer died again, something with the battery. I’m nursing a 3 day migraine, so I wont b getting it fixed anytime soon.

Be back when I can.

180 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 10:51:23pm
181 goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2015 10:54:08pm
182 goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2015 11:09:36pm
183 goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2015 11:16:00pm
184 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 11:24:49pm

Working on a few Atramentar for my daughter’s army:

At the forefront of this Legion of murderers, cutthroats and torturers were the Atramentar. This elite cadre’s numbers were chosen from amongst the standard ranks of the Night Lords Legion from Astartes who had been singled out and personally selected by their Primarch for their ferocity and cruelty. Each member was known by name and reputation within and without the Night Lords Legion.

185 Shiplord Kirel  Mar 2, 2015 11:34:28pm

Coalition strike on ISIL Buildings 18 Feb 15 in the vicinity of Salah-al-din, Iraq

…

The RWNJ site where I found the link had this to say:

Though President Obama and his band of wussy advisers talk softly about the threat of ISIS, the U.S. military can bring some serious firepower down on these savages.

And just how is it, ODS fools, that the US military has the authority to conduct these strikes? Did they pull it out of some Bible code? Are they reacting spontaneously to the inspiring rhetoric at CPAC? Did Rush Limbaugh tell them to do it?

186 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 2, 2015 11:41:00pm

re: #177 freetoken

I see where Google is going to rebrand G+ and split out the hangouts and the photos.

It’s all so confusing.

And for some reason when I go to google+ in Chrome the memory usage goes way up, the system slows down.

One thing I really dislike, and many websites do it now, is replace the standard window scrollbar with the narrower one without any scroll buttons. G+ does this and I find it quite annoying.

Google seems to like live beta testing of its services. How many times has Google Chat changed its name? Are Picasa and Google Photos the same thing now? Of course, it’s all academic to me. China is blocking everything Google now, including GMail.

187 palomino  Mar 2, 2015 11:42:09pm

re: #104 Higgs Boson’s Mate

In other words: Hillary is a shit sandwich, but there’s a dab of mayo.

That’s one way to look at it. Another is holding your nose, blah blah.

Point is simple: in some elections, since there are only two viable parties, you’re not going to get a choice you really like. So you have to decide if sitting out the election is worth the other party having control of the entire federal government—literally, the whole thing. And consolidating for another generation their hold on the Supreme Court.

Granted, Hillary is flawed, imperfect, and in some ways she totally sucks. But the US has to elect a new president in 2016, and all of the alternatives suck way harder.

188 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 2, 2015 11:42:56pm

I just spent nearly two hours editing this Wikipedia article for style and content. My head hurts.
en.wikipedia.org

Wiki markup is like learning HTML all over again.

189 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Mar 2, 2015 11:49:44pm

re: #188 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Once upon a time I was a pretty good chess player. It always amazed me that my legs were wasted after a game.

190 Kragar  Mar 2, 2015 11:51:10pm
191 palomino  Mar 2, 2015 11:52:45pm

re: #124 Great White Snark

How is this even possible?!? Come on gotta do better than “she’s been around” and “not extreme like the GOP guys”. I don’t want the GOP to win but I’m an indy. From my view that’s pretty damn weak tea. Our system has failed to produce a selection of capable candidates.

Good, get angry. We’re not really as democratic as we’d like to think. Chances are we’ll either have Clinton II or Bush III as our next prez. I prefer a second Clinton before a third Bush. Seems more fair numerically, and the Clinton WH track record easily surpasses the Bush family’s.

Either way, we’re more dynastic and oligarchical than we like to admit. Hillary and Jeb (to a lesser extent) are powerful frontrunners only because of their family names.

The GOP is so lacking in qualified candidates that the brother of a disaster like W is the guy raking in all the donations. And the Dems are in even worse shape, since no one besides Hillary wants to run.

192 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 12:30:51am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

I’m not a fan of Hillary Clinton for president, for the same reason I don’t want another Bush. Knock it off with the dynasties, America.]

If it comes down to Clinton vs Bush, I will have to give up my favorite pastime, namely political blogging, and get back to painting miniatures…

193 freetoken  Mar 3, 2015 12:33:21am

MP3 Audio

194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 12:37:00am

re: #67 The War TARDIS

Couldn’t you put a floor on the amount of votes needed to secure representation? I know in Sweden, you need 5% to get representation.

I think Israel has a 3% minimum, but there are still dozens of parties.

195 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 12:52:15am

re: #88 electrotek

I wonder how will Islamophobic Hindu fanatics will react to this.

You mean these guys?

196 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 12:53:45am

looks like just me and you again on this watch, FT…

197 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 3, 2015 1:11:01am

I’m here, too. I was busy with writin’ stuff.

GotNwes bulletins:

BREAKING: GotNwes’ CSI: Cyber team gets Hillary Clinton’s shoe size from her IP address
Linked to Daily Banter, btw.

REVEALED: Earliest Known VIDEO of Matt Drudge & Andrew Breitbart (pbuh)

Click to Reveal

T.Rex eats the lawyer.

198 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 3, 2015 1:59:33am

The West has The Dress, China has Duang.

A new Chinese word, duang, has gone viral, thanks to its association with Jackie Chan. It means something like “just special effects,” i.e., not real.

online.thatsmags.com

Duang de = made with digital effects
199 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 3:01:45am

Even as the email story about HC falls apart, teh TV is still reporting it as valid. I could smell the bullshit immediately, because I think I know who is probably behind it. The misogyny is going to be extra-heavy this season, so get your popcorn out.

I hope Hillary picks another female as her running mate—that would really make heads explode. Well, we’ve always had male/male combos, so why not female ones? Only when women realize their own potential can we change the world, and do it in our own way. And that can be done with brains, not brawn.

“You have brains in your head and feet in your shoes, you can steer yourself any direction you choose.” — Dr. Seuss

200 freetoken  Mar 3, 2015 3:06:07am

MP3 Audio

201 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 3:14:46am

So, Clinton/Warren in 2016? I love it. : )

202 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 3, 2015 3:23:58am

re: #199 Justanotherhuman

Do you suspect Karl Rove is behind it?

203 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 3:26:21am

The purpose of the latest Clinton “scandal” seemed to become obvious the moment “Benghazi” was mentioned in the initial article. Get ready for another 22 months of “When did she know?!” as the press once again abandon any semblance of journalistic integrity to engage in rumormongering about what she’s “hiding” in those emails. I’m sure a lot of the old hands got really excited because its like Whitewater all over again for them.

204 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 3:27:26am

re: #203 Targetpractice

This is the other conundrum of politics: experience = baggage

Hillary has tons of both.

205 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 3:36:29am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

“Tons” of baggage? Explain, please? And if the light of criticism of Bill falls on her, too, then the same should be true of any candidate.

FWIW, I thought she should have separated from Bill, but that was from my own experience, not hers.

206 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 3, 2015 3:41:46am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

This is the other conundrum of politics: experience = baggage

Hillary has tons of both.

In the old days, communications were either done face-to-face, on the phone, or transmitted on paper, and could be easily concealed or destroyed permanently (with the notable exception of Richard Nixon). Emails, IMs, tweets, etc., are not so ephemeral, if the middleman archives everything or the communication escapes into the wild. Today’s public officials have not caught up with technology. If they’re trying to slip stuff past the public eye, they’re doing a crappy job of it.

From the point of view of government transparency, this is a welcome development. From the point of view of a candidate keeping her (or his) nose clean, it sucks.

I’m not suggesting HC has something to hide, but that she needs to wise up about electronic communication.

207 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 3:42:33am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

This is the other conundrum of politics: experience = baggage

Hillary has tons of both.

Considering both her previous run and the passage of time, I imagine there’s going to be a lot questions about how much of that baggage is even relevant anymore. I’m sure to the old folks, Whitewater is serious shit still and what she did during Watergate worthy of discussion. But to most of us who grew up when Bill was in office or just after he left, we know her as the First Lady of one of the last truly popular president.

208 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 3, 2015 3:44:55am

re: #207 Targetpractice

Considering both her previous run and the passage of time, I imagine there’s going to be a lot questions about how much of that baggage is even relevant anymore. I’m sure to the old folks, Whitewater is serious shit still and what she did during Watergate worthy of discussion. But to most of us who grew up when Bill was in office or just after he left, we know her as the First Lady of one of the last truly popular president.

Speaking as a Boomer, the whole Whitewater thing was small potatoes. AFAIK, HC has no connection with the Watergate scandal.

209 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 3:49:55am

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Speaking as a Boomer, the whole Whitewater thing was small potatoes. AFAIK, HC has no connection with the Watergate scandal.

Except in that the RWNJs were doing their usual:

snopes.com

210 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 3:51:24am

re: #209 Justanotherhuman

Except in that the RWNJs were doing their usual:

snopes.com

I was about to post that. It was one of those bits of baggage that came up, namely a guy looking for an extension on his 15 minutes suddenly jumping up to say “She’s a liar and unethical!”

211 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 3:57:59am

re: #210 Targetpractice

I was about to post that. It was one of those bits of baggage that came up, namely a guy looking for an extension on his 15 minutes suddenly jumping up to say “She’s a liar and unethical!”

And everyone should know that Neil Boortz is a despicable POS.

212 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 3:59:24am

re: #205 Justanotherhuman

“Tons” of baggage? Explain, please? And if the light of criticism of Bill falls on her, too, then the same should be true of any candidate.

FWIW, I thought she should have separated from Bill, but that was from my own experience, not hers.

As mentioned in previous comments, whether those events are relevant is irrelevant, they will be thrown at her.

213 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 3, 2015 4:03:40am

re: #209 Justanotherhuman

Except in that the RWNJs were doing their usual:

snopes.com

Well, that rumor gained so much traction that this news junkie never heard about it till now. It must be one of those stories from RWNJ mythology, like Arachne being turned into a spider or Narcissus into a flower in Greek mythology.

214 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 4:04:35am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

As mentioned in previous comments, whether those events are relevant is irrelevant, they will be thrown at her.

And you get to the heart of what’s wrong with modern politics and mis-communication.

We have no “objective” press any longer, just a lot of “throw it against the wall and see if it sticks” bullshit.

215 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 4:04:54am

Way I look at it, if she’s still polling in the double digits against any possible GOP contenders, then we’d be fools not to at least consider supporting her candidacy. I don’t buy into the inevitability of her nomination, but I do think she’s the mark to beat right now. And it will take a very good alternative to knock her off the podium.

216 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 3, 2015 4:09:41am

re: #214 Justanotherhuman

And you get to the heart of what’s wrong with modern politics and mis-communication.

We have no “objective” press any longer, just a lot of “throw it against the wall and see if it sticks” bullshit.

Nor do we have a press that bothers to verify information before it’s printed. Even the Times sensationalized that Clinton e-mail story to make it sound like a BIG SCANDAL, when in fact it’s small potatoes.

The right wing wants a scandal on the order of Watergate or Iran-Contra to stick on Obama or Clinton, and they keep striking out. Poor babies. But they’ll keep bringing up Benghazi and Vince Foster, because they’ve been entered into the RWNJ bible of “Just so” stories.

217 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 4:16:00am

re: #216 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

“Nor do we have a press that bothers to verify information before it’s printed.”

Fact checking is sooo 20th century, doncha know. ///

Anything goes when you’re trying to increase revenues and publicity.

And Morning Bullshit is flogging the hell out of it, too.

218 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 4:17:43am

BBL.

219 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 4:27:00am

re: #72 Eclectic Cyborg

Where’s that desk flipping GIF when I need it?

220 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 3, 2015 4:27:08am

It’s been a complaint that’s as old as newspapers. Someone publishes a front-page story that contains an error. A reader or the subject of the article asks the error be corrected, and the correction gets buried in a tiny paragraph somewhere on the bottom of page 12. In the case of egregious errors, like the infamous Washington Post 8-year-old heroin addict feature, the paper has to be much more obvious about correcting the misinformation.

Nowadays, dishonest bloggers publish total crap that’s patently wrong, and even after it’s proved to be wrong, the crap remains online with no corrections at all.

221 Dark_Falcon  Mar 3, 2015 4:27:43am

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Speaking as a Boomer, the whole Whitewater thing was small potatoes. AFAIK, HC has no connection with the Watergate scandal.

Actually, Hillary Clinton was a House Judiciary Committee staffer during the Watergate Hearings. That’s her connection to that scandal, though to be clear she did nothing wrong in that role.

222 Dark_Falcon  Mar 3, 2015 4:33:21am

I’m also going to post the real Benghazi story from yesterday, because something notable happened regarding the fighting in that city, but most the US media ignored it:

Libya names anti-Islamist General Haftar as army chief

A controversial anti-Islamist, General Khalifa Haftar, has been named head of the Libyan army.

Libya’s internationally recognised government controls only a small part of the country, with Tripoli controlled by rivals Libya Dawn.

The country has been blighted by fighting between the factions, as well as attacks by jihadist groups.

Gen Haftar launched Operation Dignity last year, a self-declared war on Islamists in the city of Benghazi.

On Monday there were reports of fighting between Haftar-controlled troops and Islamists in the city.

The former general is a divisive figure amongst Libyans. He has drawn praise for attempts to bring order to the chaos in the country but criticism for his aggressive use of force, including air strikes.

While this is largely just a ratification of the facts on the ground by Libya’s parliament, it does make clear their determination to see the whole Radical Islamist crew defeated in Libya.

223 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 3, 2015 4:34:21am

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

Actually, Hillary Clinton was a House Judiciary Committee staffer during the Watergate Hearings. That’s her connection to that scandal, though to be clear she did nothing wrong in that role.

But some on the right wing use it to suggest she was fired for some reason, like her supposed incompetency as a woman lawyer. It’s the old “throw shit till something sticks” tactic.

That said, I had never heard of this connection till just now. So it’s really small potatoes.

224 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 4:36:50am

re: #223 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

But some on the right wing use it to suggest she was fired for some reason, like her supposed incompetency as a woman lawyer. It’s the old “throw shit till something sticks” tactic.

That said, I had never heard of this connection till just now. So it’s really small potatoes.

Whitewaterghazigate!!!

225 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 4:36:59am

So, some insane wingnut got up very early in the morning to Tweet this:

226 Dark_Falcon  Mar 3, 2015 4:40:17am

re: #225 The Mother Of All Pies

So, some insane wingnut got up very early in the morning to Tweet this:

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It’s too early for that kind of crazy. I’m not ready for that till after 9am.

227 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Mar 3, 2015 4:42:03am

re: #225 The Mother Of All Pies

So, some insane wingnut got up very early in the morning to Tweet this:

I always find it amusing when people who follow a particular groupthink accuse others of following a different groupthink when they contradict any part of the first groupthink.

228 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 4:48:05am
229 Doofus  Mar 3, 2015 5:03:57am

I think it was pretty smart of Hillary Clinton to use her personal email account to conduct business. I am not a lawyer, but the if the law states you have to archive emails, I would bet the law doesn’t state it has to be a government email account. She is complying with the law.

My question is who released this info?

230 Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2015 5:16:24am

OUTRAGE!!!!

Yeah, OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!

231 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 5:18:29am

This is a legit interview from a liberal Russian newspaper, in case you wonder.

The story of a Russian soldier’s war in Ukraine: “We all knew what we had to do and what could happen”

232 ninja cat  Mar 3, 2015 5:19:19am

The clintonemail.com account was written about 2 years ago, here, so I’m not getting all the drama now.

233 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 5:22:27am

re: #232 ninja cat

The clintonemail.com account was written about 2 years ago, here, so I’m not getting all the drama now.

It’s the much-needed fuel the GOP needed to keep the BENGHAZI!!! train going a little longer.

234 wrenchwench  Mar 3, 2015 5:25:17am

re: #231 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

This is a legit interview from a liberal Russian newspaper, in case you wonder.

The story of a Russian soldier’s war in Ukraine: “We all knew what we had to do and what could happen”

And this?

235 Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2015 5:26:46am

I can play this game all day long……

236 Timothy Watson  Mar 3, 2015 5:30:20am
A gag order in the criminal case of the West Virginia coal mine explosion that killed 29 men violates the First Amendment by barring virtually anyone from discussing it publicly, a lawyer for media organizations said Monday.

David Schulz told a three-judge panel of the U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals that some victims’ relatives believe the sweeping gag order also prohibits them from testifying before lawmakers and regulators.

U.S. District Judge Irene Berger’s gag order was imposed in January when she said it was needed to protect former Massey Energy CEO Don Blankenship’s right to a fair trial.

hosted.ap.org

237 Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2015 5:30:40am
238 Doofus  Mar 3, 2015 5:32:38am

re: #235 Dr. Matt

A legal practice.

239 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 5:35:37am

Jeb’s already trying to make hay out of the email “scandal”:

Except the dumbass didn’t run the emails by anybody before posting them, so 12,000 have had to be scrubbed because they contained names, addresses, and SSNs of folks in Florida.

Worse, Jeb’s trying to make a big noise about transparency, yet:

The former governor conducted all his communication on his private Jeb@jeb.org account and turned over the hand-selected batch to the state archives when he left office. Absent from the stash are emails the governor deemed not relevant to the public record: those relating to politics, fundraising and personal matters while he was governor. Compared to Scott, however, who rarely communicates by email, the contrast is stark.

So he’s going “Check me out, I made all my emails public record!,” yet the fine print is that he cherry-picked the emails that the public gets to see.

240 Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2015 5:35:42am
241 Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2015 5:36:56am

re: #238 Doofus

A legal practice.

Never said it wasn’t.

242 Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2015 5:38:53am

re: #239 Targetpractice

But Bush’s team quickly scrubbed many of those emails after an independent audit of the documents found the names, birth dates, and Social Security numbers of more than 12,000 people were exposed.

Good Dog, he’s just as much a bumbling idiot as his brother.

243 b.d.  Mar 3, 2015 5:42:32am

Emails? We have to get all revved up about someone using the wrong email address now?

I think I’ll sit this breaking scandal out and rest up for next week’s.

244 wrenchwench  Mar 3, 2015 5:51:55am

This year we have ALL new divisions! No longer will the little guys automatically be one & done, with a MIGHTY MINI MAMMAL division small mammals will be hangin’ tough until at LEAST the Final Four. And in honor of the non-mammal combatants from 2014 we have one non-mammal competitor- the desert rain frog.

Some details: Battle outcome is a function of the two species’ attributes within the battle environment. Attributes considered in calculating battle outcome include temperament, weaponry, armor, body mass, fight style, and other fun facts that are relevant to the outcome. These are one on one- head to head combat situations- um except for the mythical mammals that have multiple heads. Some random error has been introduced into calculating battle outcome & the amount of that error is scaled to the disparity in rankings between combatants.

[More at the link]

245 Great White Snark  Mar 3, 2015 5:53:20am

Morning laugh…

Batman Is Way Kinkier Than You Remember In Fifty Shades of Wayne

Video

246 Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2015 5:53:29am

Some here on LGF posed a similar question:

247 wrenchwench  Mar 3, 2015 5:58:27am
248 wrenchwench  Mar 3, 2015 6:02:32am
249 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 6:04:20am

My bullshit meter is now set to Ultra HD.

250 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 6:06:10am

Clinton spokesperson: ‘Like Secretaries of State before her, she used her own email account when engaging with any Department officials. For government business, she emailed them on their Department accounts, with every expectation they would be retained. When the Department asked former Secretaries last year for help ensuring their emails were in fact retained, we immediately said yes’ - statement
end of alert

251 Great White Snark  Mar 3, 2015 6:08:46am

Wrenchwench is gonna love this one…

252 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 3, 2015 6:10:01am

A morning tidbit in the “Just when you think you’ve heard it all” category…

Frank Zappa covering Led Zeppelin’s Stairway to Heaven…

…

253 Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2015 6:10:37am

re: #250 Justanotherhuman

Clinton spokesperson: ‘Like Secretaries of State before her, she used her own email account when engaging with any Department officials. For government business, she emailed them on their Department accounts, with every expectation they would be retained. When the Department asked former Secretaries last year for help ensuring their emails were in fact retained, we immediately said yes’ - statement
end of alert

These are the same people that were in a constant outrage when Nancy Pelosi became Speaker and they nitpicked every single travel arrangement. I haven’t heard a whisper on how and when Orangeman travels.

254 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 6:14:41am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Multipronged derp this morning.

We have the obvious with Netanyahu’s speech upcoming and right wingers saying that the Administration caved on Iran, even though terms of whatever is being negotiated aren’t fully disclosed and those details that have come to light have already shown that Iran has no interest in holding to the basic framework (10 years of no enrichment). In other words, sanctions and containment will continue, which is itself a continuation of Bush administration policies re: Iran.

Then, there’s the start of the latest ACA talk and how the GOP is ready to present an alternative to the ACA if the Supreme Court strikes down the subsidies. Mind you they don’t have a bill - just a plan. And the plan is suspiciously a lot like the ACA in most respects. The rhetoric is the different because the GOP has to try and distinguish it, but the reality is that the GOP has to replace the ACA with the ACA, or else millions will be without insurance, or face crippling costs from medical issues that the ACA would otherwise cover.

If anything, the GOP alternative would likely result in even higher premiums, higher costs, and fewer benefits than the ACA, because their plan is more limited and can’t bend the cost curve.

But I say likely, because there’s nothing to actually test here. There is no bill. There’s nothing for the CBO to score (even under dynamic or static scoring models). And the CBO scoring on the ACA has turned out to be pessimistic about how the ACA would operate thus far (it’s doing better than expected).

Then, there’s the whole nonsense about Clinton’s private emails, which apparently were before Congress enacted new laws about private emails, and if we’re talking about private emails, then pretty much every GOP presidential candidate has had private email accounts where they conducted official business.

Oh, and how can I forget that the right now thinks that Obama’s about to take all your ammo away.

255 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 6:15:45am

Is he running for prez?

Former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley not running for Senate seat of retiring Sen. Mikulski - @MaggieNYT, @AP
end of alert

Waiting for snarkish tweet from GG on this; he’s already retweeted Matt Apuzzo’s snark about HC keeping her emails “outside of FOIA”.

1h
President Obama to hold video conference with leaders of France, Germany, UK, Italy and European Council to discuss Ukraine and global security issues - @WhiteHouse
end of alert

256 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 6:19:00am

Obviously, these 2 were not “useful idiots”. The same can’t be said of Snowden & Co.

Russia barred 2 EU politicians from attending funeral of murdered opposition figure Boris Nemtsov; Moscow gives no explanation for refusing entry - @Reuters
read more on reuters.com

“The two EU politicians barred from attending were Bogdan Borusewicz, the speaker of Poland’s upper house of parliament, and Sandra Kalniete, a Latvian member of the European parliament and a former Latvian foreign minister.”

257 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 6:22:26am

re: #254 lawhawk

They’ve a “plan”? This is the first I’ve heard of it. So far as I’ve ever heard, every time they’ve tried to come up with an alternative, they’ve either found it impossible to cover as many people as the ACA will or they found that the proposal fell apart unless they imposed their own version of the individual mandate.

258 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 6:24:36am

Putin has nothing to worry; the stormtroopers can’t hit a thing…

259 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 6:26:03am

He’s starting to believe his own PR. A legend in his own mind.

Former neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson establishes presidential exploratory committee - @CarrieNBCNews
see original on twitter.com

260 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 6:29:32am

re: #257 Targetpractice

To say nothing of the fact that they can’t even get a consensus among GOPers to support any federal plan at all. Each of the GOP “plans” is nothing more than vaporware since they’ve had six years to float proposals, and in that time, not a single bill has been proffered, let alone scored.

To now claim that they’ve got a plan, when they don’t have an actual filed bill smacks of desperation in order to sway the Supreme Court into thinking that they could kill the subsidies and that Congress will act to address the situation.

Mind you, the Supreme Court struck down the VRA provisions because the formulas were out of date, leaving the mess to Congress to clean up, but Congress has so far refused to act either.

This Congress - and this GOP in particular - wants to burn down the safety net. Killing the ACA is all part and parcel of that, even though it was a plan that was largely based on a GOP plan alternative to single payer or Hillarycare back in the 1990s.

261 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 6:37:52am

House Speaker John Boehner to allow vote on ‘clean’ Homeland Security funding bill later today - @JakeSherman
see original on twitter.com

262 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 6:40:34am

re: #260 lawhawk

You can tell how much of this is smoke and mirrors by noting that none of the leadership seems to be touting this nothingburger of a “plan.” Nobody with presidential ambitions wants to voice their support. And despite making a lot of noise for years about an alternative, they can’t even offer a broad outline of what they propose to replace the ACA.

But it may serve its purpose, which is to convince Roberts and Kennedy that Congress would seriously work to fix things if the Nine Wise Souls struck down the subsidies. That’s assuming they don’t pull the escape handle that’s conveniently marked and just kick the case out, faulting the lower courts for taking the case when none of the claimants has standing.

263 b.d.  Mar 3, 2015 6:43:05am

re: #261 Justanotherhuman

House Speaker John Boehner to allow vote on ‘clean’ Homeland Security funding bill later today - @JakeSherman
see original on twitter.com

CAVE

264 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 6:46:09am
265 wrenchwench  Mar 3, 2015 6:47:25am

re: #261 Justanotherhuman

House Speaker John Boehner to allow vote on ‘clean’ Homeland Security funding bill later today - @JakeSherman
see original on twitter.com

266 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 6:47:44am

re: #263 b.d.

The GOP loses out again, because they can’t deal with reality. Even Boehner had to explain to the rank and file that shutting down DHS would have serious security implications.

267 Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2015 6:50:18am

re: #264 lawhawk

“The execution of Kelly R. Gissendaner, convicted of having her husband murdered, was put off after officials noticed some of the drugs to be used appeared cloudy.”

You can’t use meds whose “Kill By” date has expired.

268 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 6:50:22am

re: #256 Justanotherhuman

There is a fake quote going around the Russian nutto/twittersphere which has Snowden’s smug mug with a quote ascribed to him in the sense that Nemtsov was killed by “Gosdep” (the US State Dep.) and there will be more killings as the US cleans up its own trash. Of course, he never said it, but it’s sorta symbolic that this fake is readily believed by the Russian zombies.

269 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 6:52:37am

Nerdy page coming up soon. But first I eat.

270 iossarian  Mar 3, 2015 6:52:48am

re: #266 lawhawk

I have to at least give credit to Boehner for not being totally fucking stupid. It’s far from impossible, given recent worldwide events, that some minor (or, god forbid, major) act of violence could occur in the US in the next couple of months.

With a partially shut-down DHS to blame (thanks, Republicans!) and a president to vote for, that could blow up even the current gerrymandered GOP majority.

271 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 3, 2015 6:57:32am

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

I think whoever the Democrats nominate they should just show up on a gigantic walking robotic death throne and say “Who the fuck else are you going to vote for?”

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Because it’s true.

I have that warhammer 40k model, actually…

272 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 6:58:02am

GG actually tweeted this, but the linked article from the Boston Globe says nothing about her “previously spouted hawkish views on Israel” that GG alleges.

Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald * 13h 13 hours ago
Elizabeth Warren - who previously spouted hawkish views on Israel - to skip Netanyahu’s speech bostonglobe.com … (via @MJPlitnick)

And since when has GG supported anything Israel? Can he get any more douche-y? Rhetorical question, of course. I think we know the depths of his venality..

273 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 6:59:33am

re: #272 Justanotherhuman

GG actually tweeted this, but the linked article from the Boston Globe says nothing about her “previously spouted hawkish views on Israel” that GG alleges.

Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald * 13h 13 hours ago
Elizabeth Warren - who previously spouted hawkish views on Israel - to skip Netanyahu’s speech bostonglobe.com … (via @MJPlitnick)

And since when has GG supported anything Israel? Can he get any more douche-y? Rhetorical question, of course. I think we know the depths of his venality..

Glenn refuses to say anything about the Nemtsov assassination but he complains that the UK is “censoring RT” because of their “pro-Russia” views.

274 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:01:33am

re: #273 The Mother Of All Pies

He would have complained about poor Goebbels too.

275 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 7:01:45am

re: #273 The Mother Of All Pies

Exactly. He should just go ahead and move from Brazil to Russia since he’s propagandizing for them.

276 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:02:42am

Russia Today is Glenn’s natural ally.

277 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 7:03:13am

re: #275 Justanotherhuman

Exactly. He should just go ahead and move from Brazil to Russia since he’s propagandizing for them.

I’m sure he has a “bugout” plan for when the peasants in the favelas decide to march on his throbbing jungle fortress.

278 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 7:04:15am

Boehner caves, and it’s all Democrats fault.

That’s the GOP line, and they’re sticking to it.

Idiocy. Sheer idiocy. The GOP has the numbers in the House, and they’ve got a majority in the Senate, but can’t accomplish anything without the Democrats? Either the Democrats are far more powerful than the GOP ever was, or the GOP is so fractured that they can’t do anything because the extremists in the House can’t agree with the run of the mill far right GOP in the Senate.

279 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:04:16am

Julius Streicher was executed in Nuremberg for things he “merely” wrote. Glenn would probably defend him too.

280 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 7:04:52am
281 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:05:59am

re: #280 lawhawk

Imap all movements of the wingnut memes right after they pop up.

282 Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2015 7:09:12am

re: #278 lawhawk

Boehner caves, and it’s all Democrats fault.

That’s the GOP line, and they’re sticking to it.

Source: Boehner tells the troops Democrats stayed united, blocked our bill, and our R colleagues in Sen never found way to win this fight.
— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) March 3, 2015.

Whether or not to fund homeland security is a “fight”? Remind us again, who does and doesn’t love this country?

283 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 7:09:33am

Yesterday we had 65 deg; today we’ll have 45, and tomorrow 75.

Cheeeez. Come on, Spring.

284 darthstar  Mar 3, 2015 7:10:06am

re: #234 wrenchwench

And this?

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Weaselpecker!

285 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 7:10:11am

re: #279 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Julius Streicher was executed in Nuremberg for things he “merely” wrote. Glenn would probably defend him too.

Glenn probably gets a stiffy reading Streicher.

286 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 7:10:31am

re: #283 Justanotherhuman

Yesterday we had 65 deg; today we’ll have 45, and tomorrow 75.

Cheeeez. Come on, Spring.

We just had 4 inches of snow in the last hour.

287 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 7:10:57am

This is so accurate==>

288 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 7:13:11am

re: #282 Dr. Matt

Well, that tweet was sent by an ideological idiot pretending to be an objective journalist, so…

Rubin has been so transparent for quite a few years now. She must be following the leader at the Post.

289 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 7:14:03am

re: #286 The Mother Of All Pies

Between now and Thursday, NYC metro is going to get 6-10 inches of snow, ice, sleet, freezing rain, and probably a healthy dose of rain, with temperatures all over the map.

Downed lines, more potholes, and dangerous travel conditions.

*super*

290 Tigger2  Mar 3, 2015 7:14:14am

The American Action Network a super PAC tied to Boehner has started running ads against the Teabaggers in congress over the DHS funding bill.
This one is aganist Congressman Tim Huelskamp

…

291 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 7:16:07am

re: #286 The Mother Of All Pies

We just had 4 inches of snow in the last hour.

I see…

292 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 7:17:19am

re: #291 Justanotherhuman

I see…

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This is the explosion on the east side of Detroit.

293 Tigger2  Mar 3, 2015 7:17:24am

re: #291 Justanotherhuman

I see…

[Embedded content]

We got some of that the night before last.

294 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:17:45am

re: #290 Tigger2

“That’s the right message”
“That’s the wrong message”

This is a step away from an Idiocracy ad.

Anyway, let the fratricide commence.

295 Tigger2  Mar 3, 2015 7:20:55am

re: #294 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

“That’s the right message”
“That’s the wrong message”

This is a step away from an Idiocracy ad.

Anyway, let the fratricide commence.

I agree I hope it’s the beginning of a long and bloody war inside the GOP.

296 darthstar  Mar 3, 2015 7:21:12am
298 b_sharp  Mar 3, 2015 7:23:14am

re: #280 lawhawk

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He is such a NATty fellow.

299 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 7:24:35am

You can call Netanyahu a bunch of unflattering things that are accurate but don’t call him an “Anti-Semite.” That’s just stupid.

300 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 7:25:14am

re: #298 b_sharp

Dude is
Not quite right in the head.
Sucks to be him.

301 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:27:18am

re: #297 The Mother Of All Pies

No Dudebros, Anti-Semitism does not and has never meant “people who do not like Semites.”

It’s a common antisemitic meme that is also repeated by some well-meaning but woefully ignorant dumbasses.

302 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 7:28:26am

West Virginia Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin vetoes 20-week abortion ban, citing similar constitutional concerns as when he vetoed bill last year - @wvgazette
read more on wvgazette.com

303 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 7:28:45am

re: #301 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

It’s a common antisemitic meme that is also repeated by some well-meaning but woefully ignorant dumbasses.

The guy who INVENTED the word said it referred to Jews, because he thought Judenhass was just too vulgar.

304 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 7:30:20am

People who hate Arabs are racist, but not “anti-Semitic”

People who hate Jews are “anti-Semitic” but not necessarily racist.

305 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 7:30:44am

More: Boehner said President Obama’s actions on immigration ‘will continue to be litigated in the courts, where we have our best chance of winning this fight’ - @politico
read more on politico.com

306 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:31:09am

re: #303 The Mother Of All Pies

He probably thought that emphasizing the “Semiticness” would help in his goal to present the Jews as alien.

307 ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2015 7:31:11am

re: #290 Tigger2

The American Action Network a super PAC tied to Boehner has started running ads against the Teabaggers in congress over the DHS funding bill.
This one is aganist Congressman Tim Huelskamp

[Embedded content]

Video

Interesting. Is this a sign that Boehner is finally going to take the Tea Party on and begin to shut them up?

I am finding this whole Hillary email ‘thing’ rather fascinating. It appears to have even got a few lizards out of joint. And then within hours the whole thing blows up. Maybe some sheepishness ensued.

Oh well, another day on planet earth. Outrages to be outraged about.

Next up the Netyan-yahoo speech. I’m sure there will be all kinds of stupid to come out of that. I imagine there will even be a way to use his coming to address congress against Hillary. Hell, who knows…Bibi might even get in a swipe himself.

And oh yeah…the image of the weasel riding the woodpecker and how cute it seemed. The actual outcome might not have been that cute. Nature!

308 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:33:18am

Interesting. Marr started out as a left-wing democrat and anarchist.

309 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 7:33:39am

re: #307 ObserverArt

See #305. He has The Plan, haha.

310 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:36:03am

From the German wiki:

Diesen Paradigmenwechsel von Religion zu Rasse verdeutlichte er durch die Einführung des Begriffs “Antisemitismus” in den zeitgenössischen politisch-gesellschaftlichen Diskurs. Es ist allerdings nicht sicher, dass die Begriffsschöpfung tatsächlich auf ihn zurückgeht, da das Adjektiv “antisemitisch” schon 1873 belegt ist.

So he might not have been the inventor, although he was probably the first successful propagator of the term.

311 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 7:37:19am

re: #305 Justanotherhuman

More: Boehner said President Obama’s actions on immigration ‘will continue to be litigated in the courts, where we have our best chance of winning this fight’ - @politico
read more on politico.com

Trying to let down the wingnuts gently. “Yeah, we’re caving in and giving up the fight we’ve been waging for a month, but we still might win in the courts!”

312 ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2015 7:41:11am

re: #309 Justanotherhuman

See #305. He has The Plan, haha.

Ha. I can see why he is saying that. It gets the Tea Party off his back, and if the courts find Obama was legal in his Executive Actions it kills the whole thing without Johnny B having to further dirty his hands.

I get the feeling Boehner may have had a moment of clarity over this past weekend. But just a moment. Fleeting probably.

313 Tigger2  Mar 3, 2015 7:41:38am

re: #311 Targetpractice

Trying to let down the wingnuts gently. “Yeah, we’re caving in and giving up the fight we’ve been waging for a month, but we still might win in the courts!”

You never can tell if it gets to this SCOTUS.

314 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 7:42:54am

re: #310 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

From the German wiki:

So he might not have been the inventor, although he was probably the first successful propagator of the term.

But today you get definition creep from the right and the left:
HURR HURR!!! ARABS ARE SEMITES SO TEH JUICE IS TEH REAL ANTI-SEMITES!!!!!!
HURR HURR TEH JUICE IS KHAZARS THEIR NOT TEH REAL SEMITES!!!!!!

315 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 7:47:02am

Nobody really loved or cared for this child. I hope she at least gets some justice.

al.com

And, just in:

In reversal, judge will allow public to attend jury selection for Alabama woman charged in her granddaughter’s running death - @AP
end of alert

316 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 7:48:08am

10,000 Elephants in the Room. My time at CPAC. By Jezebel writer Erin Ryan.

317 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 7:48:10am

re: #304 The Mother Of All Pies

People who hate Arabs are racist, but not “anti-Semitic”

People who hate Jews are “anti-Semitic” but not necessarily racist.

I thought that “Semites” was a term that covered both Jews and Arabs, just like “Iberians” refers to both Spanish and Portugese.

End anti-Iberianism!!!

318 ObserverArt  Mar 3, 2015 7:48:54am

I just read…the woodpecker apparently escaped the weasel attack!

Almost time for The Speech.

319 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:49:12am

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I thought that “Semites” was a term that covered both Jews and Arabs, just like “Iberians” refers to both Spanish and Portugese.

It does. What does that have to do with antisemitism?

320 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 7:50:54am

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I thought that “Semites” was a term that covered both Jews and Arabs, just like “Iberians” refers to both Spanish and Portugese.

End anti-Iberianism!!!

“Anti-Semitism” is a word that was explicitly invented to give a “scientific” veneer to good old-fashioned Judenhass. No other Semitic people were involved.

321 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 7:51:34am

re: #319 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

It does. What does that have to do with antisemitism?

Just the fact that, literally taken, an “anti-Semite” is someone who hates EVERYBODY who lives in or comes from the Middle East.

322 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:52:38am

re: #321 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Just the fact that, literally taken, an “anti-Semite” is someone who hates EVERYBODY who lives in or comes from the Middle East.

Not true, taken literally an antisemite is someone who hates Jews. Look up the definition.

323 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:53:27am

Literal meaning of the words is wholly independent from their etymologies. “Atom” does not “literally” mean an indivisible particle.

324 Decatur Deb  Mar 3, 2015 7:53:56am

A lexicographer and an etymologist enter the Thunderdome…

325 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 7:54:40am

re: #322 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Not true, taken literally an antisemite is someone who hates Jews. Look up the definition.

Not going to argue, it’s sorta like pointing out that “Air Iberia” is the Spanish national airline, not the Spanish-Portugese.

326 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:55:20am

re: #325 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Not going to argue, it’s sorta like pointing out that “Air Iberia” is the Spanish national airline, not the Spanish-Portugese.

There is nothing to argue about. The literal meaning of the term is available in any dictionary.

327 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 7:55:58am

re: #326 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

There is nothing to argue about. The literal meaning of the term is available in any dictionary.

I am an anti-Semantist

/

328 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 7:57:17am

re: #327 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Well-played.

329 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 3, 2015 8:06:20am

re: #326 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

There is nothing to argue about. The literal meaning of the term is available in any dictionary.

Yes, but the literal meaning of the term is idiotic. When it was invented, as now, far-and-away the largest number of Semitic-speakers spoke Arabic, followed by Amharic. In those days, Hebrew would have been far behind even Syriac and Aramaic. It’s a butt-ignorant term that I refuse to use or recognize.

330 Great White Snark  Mar 3, 2015 8:17:49am

re: #258 lawhawk

Truly hilarious. If that’s not the meme of the week I give up.

331 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 8:18:43am

re: #329 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yes, but the literal meaning of the term is idiotic. When it was invented, as now, far-and-away the largest number of Semitic-speakers spoke Arabic, followed by Amharic. In those days, Hebrew would have been far behind even Syriac and Aramaic. It’s a butt-ignorant term that I refuse to use or recognize.

No problem, as long as you refuse to use such ignorant terms as “jellyfish” and “atom”.

332 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 3, 2015 8:20:02am
333 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 3, 2015 8:25:02am

re: #312 ObserverArt

Ha. I can see why he is saying that. It gets the Tea Party off his back, and if the courts find Obama was legal in his Executive Actions it kills the whole thing without Johnny B having to further dirty his hands.

I get the feeling Boehner may have had a moment of clarity over this past weekend. But just a moment. Fleeting probably.

Boehner is smart enough to understand that fear-mongering is a pillar of GOP politics. Defunding the agency that protects us from the existential threat of existential threats might undermine the notion that the GOPers are the only thing standing between us and hordes of murderous brown people.

334 Romantic Heretic  Mar 3, 2015 8:26:24am

re: #260 lawhawk

To say nothing of the fact that they can’t even get a consensus among GOPers to support any federal plan at all. Each of the GOP “plans” is nothing more than vaporware since they’ve had six years to float proposals, and in that time, not a single bill has been proffered, let alone scored.

To now claim that they’ve got a plan, when they don’t have an actual filed bill smacks of desperation in order to sway the Supreme Court into thinking that they could kill the subsidies and that Congress will act to address the situation.

Mind you, the Supreme Court struck down the VRA provisions because the formulas were out of date, leaving the mess to Congress to clean up, but Congress has so far refused to act either.

This Congress - and this GOP in particular - wants to burn down the safety net. Killing the ACA is all part and parcel of that, even though it was a plan that was largely based on a GOP plan alternative to single payer or Hillarycare back in the 1990s.

As that article I paged the other day noted the GOP, most especially the Tea Party, regards suffering as necessary. Any attempt to alleviate it is endangering the souls of the poor and the disabled.

They’re also big believers in the ‘fact’ that God and Nature have assigned each person a place and any attempt to change that risks chaos and anarchy.

Their ‘American Dream’ is to return to the Middle Ages before the Renaissance.

335 Romantic Heretic  Mar 3, 2015 8:29:32am

re: #266 lawhawk

The GOP loses out again, because they can’t deal with reality. Even Boehner had to explain to the rank and file that shutting down DHS would have serious security implications.

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I don’t think the Tea Party gives a shit. They want America vulnerable so they can burn it down.

336 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 3, 2015 8:41:40am

re: #331 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

No problem, as long as you refuse to use such ignorant terms as “jellyfish” and “atom”.

I don’t even…what?

337 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 8:59:32am

re: #336 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I don’t even…what?

Jellyfish is neither a fish, nor is made of jelly. Atom is not indivisible. Antisemitism doesn’t refer to all Semites. Etymology doesn’t determine the meaning of words.

338 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 3, 2015 10:48:43am

Total bullshit. “Semitic” is a linguistic term. Period.

339 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 11:33:43am

re: #338 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Total bullshit. “Semitic” is a linguistic term. Period.

Good. But then, of course, we were not talking about the meaning of “Semitic” in the first place. “Antisemitic” means “against Jews”, not “against Semites”.


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