Edward Snowden Blinks - Wants to Return to the US and Face Trial

But can’t resist implicitly bashing the US
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After months of pretending to really enjoy living in Russia, Edward Snowden is reportedly blinking.

“With a group of lawyers from other countries, we are working on the question of his return to America,” Kucherena said.

“Snowden is ready to return to the States, but on the condition that he is given a guarantee of a legal and impartial trial,” he said.

The lawyer said Snowden had so far only received a guarantee from the US Attorney General that he will not face the death penalty.

I wonder why Ed thinks he needs to receive special guarantees for something every American is guaranteed under the US Constitution? Maybe he’s been living in Russia a bit too long.

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1 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 11:39:29am

Now the next question is, will Putin let him leave?

2 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 11:39:42am

Eddie is really jonesing for some Internet.

3 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 11:40:34am
on the condition that he is given a guarantee of a legal and impartial trial

Because he can always say that there is no chance of that and that will be his eternal excuse.

Prove me wrong, Ed.

4 Dr Lizardo  Mar 3, 2015 11:40:45am

Maybe Eddie boy has come to the realization that he’s outlived his usefulness as a propaganda tool, and the murder of Boris Nemtsov sort of made him see the light.

Better to return to the US and stand trial then be gunned down in the street in Moscow.

Besides, if he returns to the US, he can get a full serving of martyr cookies from his adoring fans!

5 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 11:41:50am

And just this morning I had a fanboy claiming that Snowden fled the US because he feared he’d be tortured and be unable to get a fair trial.

Yeah, I can’t imagine why Snowden would have a change of heart. Maybe something about Nemtsov comes into play, or that the FSB has let him know that rent’s about to come due?

Either way, he’s working out a deal to get back to the US where he can stand trial for his treachery. You know, for stealing classified documents (espionage) and providing them to third parties (media, foreign governments) that were not supposed to have them.

6 Jack Burton  Mar 3, 2015 11:44:23am

I’m undecided on whether this is a good thing or not. There are way too many otherwise rational people who have bought the ‘whistleblower’ narrative hook, line, and sinker and I see Snowden using this to make a big activist bullshit statement or turn himself into a martyr for the left-libertarian dudebro political philosophy.

7 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 3, 2015 11:44:33am

The lawyer said Snowden had so far only received a guarantee from the US Attorney General that he will not face the death penalty.

Was it necessary to say that? The only conceivable capital charge would be treason. Did he “Levy war against the United States” or “Adhere to their enemies”?

8 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 11:44:49am

Change of heart huh. I really don’t have any sympathy for him because A) he knew what he was getting into working with the NSA, B) to go with that, the whole feign of outrage about the NSA’s activities all the while he has exile in a nation like Putin’s Russia, and C.) the attempts to link him with actual whistleblowers.

9 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 11:46:47am

re: #4 Dr Lizardo

Maybe Eddie boy has come to the realization that he’s outlived his usefulness as a propaganda tool, and the murder of Boris Nemtsov sort of made him see the light.

Better to return to the US and stand trial then be gunned down in the street in Moscow.

Besides, if he returns to the US, he can get a full serving of martyr cookies from his adoring fans!

I am imagining this line of logic: a lot of Putin fans out there are calling Nemtsov’s assassination a “False Flag” operation conducted by the CIA to make Putin look bad.

Turn the logic on its head: why should Putin not have S gunned down so it can be blamed on “CIA Operatives”?

I would like to see this fellow face a fair trial. If there are mitigating circumstances to warrant what he did, let it all be known.

10 EMAILGHAZI  Mar 3, 2015 11:46:56am

But why leave the bastion of Freedom and Liberty that Russia is? I’m confused. Better hamburgers?

11 De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2015 11:47:20am

This is good news for the American Pole Dancing Fetish Society.

12 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 11:48:12am

USA should give him a fair and open trial just like they do in Russia, right Ed?

13 Kragar  Mar 3, 2015 11:49:13am

Can’t wait to hear Greenwald’s screed about how Snowden won’t be able to get a fair trial and he should stay in Russia where its safe.

14 Dr Lizardo  Mar 3, 2015 11:50:56am

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I am imagining this line of logic: a lot of Putin fans out there are calling Nemtsov’s assassination a “False Flag” operation conducted by the CIA to make Putin look bad.

Turn the logic on its head: why should Putin not have S gunned down so it can be blamed on “CIA Operatives”?

I would like to see this fellow face a fair trial. If there are mitigating circumstances to warrant what he did, let it all be known.

Yep, and maybe that’s what Snowden’s thinking.

Of course he should have a fair trial - indeed, that goes without saying. I’m sure the mighty Greenwald will be following along to write much praise for Eddie.

15 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 3, 2015 11:51:08am

He’s just mad he missed the Oscars.

16 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 11:53:25am

Go fuck yourself, Ed.

You’re not guaranteed special treatment under the Constitution.

17 Mike Lamb  Mar 3, 2015 11:54:36am

Why do I get the impression that for him, a “fair, impartial trial” means G. Greenwald being appointed as the judge pro tem.

18 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 11:54:40am

re: #16 Justanotherhuman

Go fuck yourself, Ed.

You’re not guaranteed special treatment under the Constitution.

Just don’t wear a hoodie when you return or make any sudden moves towards your waistband…

19 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 11:54:47am

OT: House vote on clean DHS bill is underway (CSPAN) (House vote)

Who could have seen that coming. /

20 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 3, 2015 11:54:58am

re: #15 klys (maker of Silmarils)

He’s just mad he missed the Oscars.

In Russia, Oscars miss you!

21 Charles Johnson  Mar 3, 2015 11:55:04am
22 Amory Blaine  Mar 3, 2015 11:55:43am

Iran is weeks away from making the bomb.
Trickle down is working.

Holy fuck, we Americans are teh stoopids.

23 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 11:56:17am

re: #18 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

No doubt Ed will invoke “white privilege” on the subject of hoodies.

24 De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2015 11:57:50am

re: #15 klys (maker of Silmarils)

He’s just mad he missed the Oscars.

Do you mean to tell me that this wasn’t him? //

25 Kragar  Mar 3, 2015 11:58:07am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

26 Charles Johnson  Mar 3, 2015 11:58:16am
27 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 11:58:20am

I think what this really is is Eddie and his lawyer advertising that he’s in negotiations to return with the hopes that public sentiment will still be in his favor and force a plea bargain with a light sentence. Though what he’d be giving in return, besides carrying his sorry carcass back stateside, I’ve no idea. Perhaps he’s offering to roll on Greenwald as the mastermind behind the theft?

28 sizzzzlerz  Mar 3, 2015 11:58:33am

You just can’t get good barbeque and microbrews in Moscow, I guess

29 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 3, 2015 11:58:43am

re: #24 De Kolta Chair

Do you mean to tell me that this wasn’t him? //

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No, no, the pole dancer was his girlfriend.

30 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 3, 2015 11:58:50am

re: #23 Justanotherhuman

No doubt Ed will invoke “white privilege” on the subject of hoodies.

So what started the hoodie panic anyway? Was it that picture of the Unabomber/John-Holmes-in-a-hoodie that was out there for so long?

31 Charles Johnson  Mar 3, 2015 11:59:45am
32 psddluva4evah  Mar 3, 2015 11:59:53am

Posted this late in previous thread but seems fitting here too…

REVEALED: Petraeus gave mistress black books full of spy names, code words, war plans t.co t.co

Read the whole article and try not to just drop your jaw and say…wow

33 dholmes32  Mar 3, 2015 12:00:19pm

It’s winter…he’s snowblind in Moscow.

34 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 3, 2015 12:00:37pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

I think what this really is is Eddie and his lawyer advertising that he’s in negotiations to return with the hopes that public sentiment will still be in his favor and force a plea bargain with a light sentence. Though what he’d be giving in return, besides carrying his sorry carcass back stateside, I’ve no idea. Perhaps he’s offering to roll on Greenwald as the mastermind behind the theft?

Greenwald’s indictment for aiding and abetting would be a feast of schadenfreude.

35 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:01:10pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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Yeah and what did NRO have to say when one of their fellow conservatives actually called our own president a liar during the State of the Union address? NRO can go fuck themselves off a cliff.

36 Kragar  Mar 3, 2015 12:01:50pm

GOD DAMN IT. THEY DID IT AGAIN!

Manager sent an email to the whole team after the call this morning.

“Go ahead and fix everything.”

I spend 2 hours going thru different systems and making the corrections.

Then another email comes in:

“We just made some changes, verify your settings”

Everything I did over the last 2 hours was disabled again.

37 Eventual Carrion  Mar 3, 2015 12:01:51pm
“Snowden is ready to return to the States, but on the condition that he is given a guarantee of a legal and impartial trial,” he said.

Don’t worry Eddie, you’re not a black kid with a toy gun so you should be fine.

38 Dr Lizardo  Mar 3, 2015 12:03:12pm

re: #34 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Greenwald’s indictment for aiding and abetting would be a feast of schadenfreude.

Endless all-you-can-eat feast of schadenfreude, to be precise. Much like this:

Tasty, tasty schadenfreude
39 makeitstop  Mar 3, 2015 12:03:24pm

re: #17 Mike Lamb

Why do I get the impression that for him, a “fair, impartial trial” means G. Greenwald being appointed as the judge pro tem.

Maybe the GG will represent him. What a drama-fest that would be.

40 dholmes32  Mar 3, 2015 12:03:52pm

Well, you could be me and be listening to the followers of jailed “creation evangelist” Kent Hovind whine about how “God’s man” is being persecuted! I tell you, persecuted! For doing what a judge told him not to do.

(Kent Hovind is on trial this week for mail fraud and conspiracy. He is currently finishing up a 10 year sentence for tax evasion, structuring and obstruction of the IRS.)

pnj.com

(edited to remove RWNJ link,sorry!)

41 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:04:47pm

The more I learn about law the more absurd “strict constructionism” seems to me.

42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 12:05:31pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

The more I learn about law the more absurd “strict constructionism” seems to me.

It is Biblical Literalism applied to the Constitution.

43 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 3, 2015 12:05:56pm

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

Endless all-you-can-eat feast of schadenfreude, to be precise. Much like this:

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I’d even take home a doggy bag!

44 makeitstop  Mar 3, 2015 12:06:34pm

re: #36 Kragar

GOD DAMN IT. THEY DID IT AGAIN!

Manager sent an email to the whole team after the call this morning.

“Go ahead and fix everything.”

I spend 2 hours going thru different systems and making the corrections.

Then another email comes in:

“We just made some changes, verify your settings”

Everything I did over the last 2 hours was disabled again.

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I’ll send you a roll of duct tape so you can tape that fool’s hands behind his back.

45 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:06:52pm

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is Biblical Literalism applied to the Constitution.

Yeah it’s the same mindset.

46 Great White Snark  Mar 3, 2015 12:08:38pm

We can tell him no, right? Let him remain stateless. The gall of him to make all those absurd claims about the United States along with his bFF GG and now wants to trust our system? All that means to me is Russia must suck worse than Club Fed.

47 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 12:08:40pm

re: #32 psddluva4evah

And he lied about what he had in his home.

The plea deal is a misdemeanor. If it were you or I, we’d be given lengthy sentence, more than likely. But when “it’s only your mistress” and you’re a career general, then all bets are off on a lengthy prison sentence.

48 EMAILGHAZI  Mar 3, 2015 12:08:43pm

re: #36 Kragar

I admire your constraint. Me, I would be in melt down mode with a side of MoFo.

49 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 3, 2015 12:09:20pm

re: #6 Jack Burton

I’m undecided on whether this is a good thing or not. There are way too many otherwise rational people who have bought the ‘whistleblower’ narrative hook, line, and sinker and I see Snowden using this to make a big activist bullshit statement or turn himself into a martyr for the left-libertarian dudebro political philosophy.

Maybe he wants to come home so that he can write his tell-all book and cash in on it - rather than all the monies going to Greenwald and company while he shivers in Moscow.
//

50 Iwouldprefernotto  Mar 3, 2015 12:09:23pm

Boehner and Snowden backing down in the same week. Yes.

51 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 12:09:29pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s the same mindset.

In 1781 we had no mass telecommunications media, almost no international corporations, no major industries producing toxic waste, and no “illegal” immigration.

How do we know what the Framers of the Constitutions would have done about such things

52 Jay in Oregon  Mar 3, 2015 12:09:36pm
“Snowden is ready to return to the States, but on the condition that he is given a guarantee of a legal and impartial trial,” he said.

“Impartial”, in this case, means “one that exonerates him of any wrongdoing” because any other verdict is proof that he’s being punished by the U.S. gov’t as an example to others.

Good luck, Ed. You’re going to need it to avoid looking at prison walls for the rest of your life.

53 Jack Burton  Mar 3, 2015 12:10:20pm

re: #48 nines09

I admire your constraint. Me, I would be in melt down mode with a side of MoFo.

“A mushroom cloud laying mutha fucka!”

54 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 3, 2015 12:11:02pm

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is Biblical Literalism applied to the Constitution.

Yep, they literally cherry pick one bit out of context and then interpret it as the Absolute Word. The interpretation changes as their needs dictate.

55 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 12:11:41pm

Perhaps what Eddie finally realized is that, just because he can’t see the bars, doesn’t mean he isn’t already in prison.

56 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:12:01pm

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

In 1781 we had no mass telecommunications media, almost no international corporations, no major industries producing toxic waste, and no “illegal” immigration.

How do we know what the Framers of the Constitutions would have done about such things

That’s exactly what I would like to ask Scalia or Thomas if I ever met them. It’s absurd. The whole nonsense of “If it’s not in the Constitution, the government can’t do it” is just nonsense and if we had actually operated that way, we would probably be on our 10th Constitution today. If we instead use the Constitution as a framework rather than treating it as sacred text that must be followed word for word, we get shit done.

57 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 3, 2015 12:12:03pm

re: #54 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Yep, they literally cherry pick one bit out of context and then interpret it as the Absolute Word. The interpretation changes as their needs dictate.

The Bible works that way, so why not the Constitution and all other documents as well?
//

58 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 12:12:34pm

re: #19 lawhawk

Clean DHS bill appears set to pass (subject to last minute changes as vote tally catches up) 254 to 164, 15 NV

59 EMAILGHAZI  Mar 3, 2015 12:13:02pm

re: #53 Jack Burton

Peel off corporate shirt, go dark ops, drop microphone and strut on out into the future.

60 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:13:24pm

The irony of irony is the ideological ancestors of these people were opposed to the Constitution and Bill of Rights because they didn’t think it was needed. Not too many people talk about that period in between the Treaty of Paris and the ratification of the Constitution but it was there and it was chaotic.

61 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 12:13:46pm

re: #57 Feline Fearless Leader

Welp, they think the Constitution is based on the Bible, so.

62 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 12:14:16pm

Picking and choosing foreign leaders over the POTUS.

This time, it’s Rush. Figures.

63 Kragar  Mar 3, 2015 12:14:29pm

re: #48 nines09

I admire your constraint. Me, I would be in melt down mode with a side of MoFo.

At this point, I’m just out tending my field of fucks I give about this bullshit right now:

“Hey, we’re missing the dead line on this.”

“Yeah, and what the fuck do you expect me to do about it? My hands are tied.”

64 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:15:56pm

re: #62 lawhawk

Picking and choosing foreign leaders over the POTUS.

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This time, it’s Rush. Figures.

Yeah Rush is right about that but not for the reasons he thinks he is. And Rush we’re still awaiting your move to Costa Rica. I guess the Costa Ricans didn’t want a professional bigoted jackass taking up residence there. I can’t say I blame them.

65 EMAILGHAZI  Mar 3, 2015 12:16:05pm

Did you ever get the feeling if the Constitution was written today it would be brought to you by Exxon Mobil or GE?

66 Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2015 12:16:34pm

re: #58 lawhawk

Clean DHS bill appears set to pass (subject to last minute changes as vote tally catches up) 254 to 164, 15 NV

What’s the proposed duration of funding for?

67 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 12:16:58pm

re: #66 Dr. Matt

What’s the proposed duration of funding for?

September.

68 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:17:00pm

re: #65 nines09

Did you ever get the feeling if the Constitution was written today it would be brought to you by Exxon Mobil or GE?

You’d definitely have corporate influence for sure. A corporation counts as 3/5’s of people.//

69 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 12:17:01pm

re: #36 Kragar

GOD DAMN IT. THEY DID IT AGAIN!

Manager sent an email to the whole team after the call this morning.

“Go ahead and fix everything.”

I spend 2 hours going thru different systems and making the corrections.

Then another email comes in:

“We just made some changes, verify your settings”

Everything I did over the last 2 hours was disabled again.

Embedded Image

Revoke this guy’s privs.

70 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 12:17:30pm

Chomsky, of course, overlooks the fact that Snowjob is a treasonous thief.

71 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 12:17:54pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

You’d definitely have corporate influence for sure. A corporation counts as 3/5’s of people.//

A corporation would be 5/3’s of a person.

72 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 3, 2015 12:18:02pm

re: #65 nines09

Did you ever get the feeling if the Constitution was written today it would be brought to you by Exxon Mobil or GE?

ALEC. And the lone amendment procedure would be “Whatever Rush wants.”

73 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:18:39pm

re: #71 The Mother Of All Pies

A corporation would be 5/3’s of a person.

Hah! Brilliant.

74 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 12:18:41pm

re: #70 Justanotherhuman

Chomsky, of course, overlooks the fact that Snowjob is a treasonous thief.

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People still give a fuck what Noam Chomsky has to say?

75 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 12:18:50pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

That’d be to the end of the fiscal year.

76 EMAILGHAZI  Mar 3, 2015 12:19:08pm

re: #63 Kragar

Sound like you have one of those managers who decide every once in a while to come on out and manage. “Well I guess I better go down on the floor and see what I can fuck up. Time to manage,”

77 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 3, 2015 12:19:46pm

re: #36 Kragar

GOD DAMN IT. THEY DID IT AGAIN!

Manager sent an email to the whole team after the call this morning.

“Go ahead and fix everything.”

I spend 2 hours going thru different systems and making the corrections.

Then another email comes in:

“We just made some changes, verify your settings”

Everything I did over the last 2 hours was disabled again.

[Embedded content]

Would a sit-down strike by the team get the manager’s boss’s attention? Or is that going over the line and challenging corporate discipline?

78 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 12:20:22pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

Greenfuck and about a dozen others.

79 Dave In Austin  Mar 3, 2015 12:20:49pm
80 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:20:53pm

re: #70 Justanotherhuman

Chomsky, of course, overlooks the fact that Snowjob is a treasonous thief.

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Given that I don’t think Chomsky has ever praised the US in writing or in speech, I really can’t take him seriously on what a patriot is and I definitely won’t take that lecture from Glenn who was eager to put down critics of FP in the past. Greenwald really needs to get off the self-righteous train. I don’t think Snowden is evil or up there with someone like Aldrich Ames or Bob Hannsen but he did by his own admission commit a crime and he is hiding out in a nation that has a much worse record on civil liberties than we do and Glenn can’t handle the fact that’s true so he kneejerks.

81 EMAILGHAZI  Mar 3, 2015 12:22:36pm

re: #72 Feline Fearless Leader

ALEC. And the lone amendment procedure would be “Whatever Rush wants.”

Or the Trust Fund Babies From Hell, The Kochs. Buy a Star on Our Old Glory! Name A Stripe! Hurry! Limited space!

82 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 12:22:58pm

Hey Ed! Come to NC.

“Theft by servant” (nowadays referred to as “employee”) is still a law here. And enforced.

83 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 3, 2015 12:23:19pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

His mother-in-law should subject him to drug tests for the welfare he’s getting.

84 Dr. Matt  Mar 3, 2015 12:23:25pm

re: #65 nines09

Did you ever get the feeling if the Constitution was written today it would be brought to you by Exxon Mobil or GE?

And the NRA.

“A well regulated Militia, will NEVER be required, to the security of a free State, and that the right of the people to keep and bear fully automatic, high-capacity weapons at ALL TIMES, shall not, ever, ever, never, ever be infringed.”

85 Kragar  Mar 3, 2015 12:23:25pm

re: #69 The Mother Of All Pies

Revoke this guy’s privs.

Its tiered admin settings, and because of the way they implemented it to “avoid users messing up the settings”, this dipshit has higher privileges than the admins who’ve been on the team for years.

He’s also pulling another specialty of his. He’s giving the real admins conflicting info separately, so each one thinks they’re the only one applying fixes while they’re overwriting each others work, each one slightly different than the others. We’re spread out across 3 time zones, and some people work remotely, so even under the best conditions, coordination can be hard.

And of course, while this is going on, he won’t return telephone calls or emails until everyone else goes home for the day.

86 wrenchwench  Mar 3, 2015 12:23:26pm
87 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 3, 2015 12:23:38pm

re: #81 nines09

Or the Trust Fund Babies From Hell, The Kochs. Buy a Star on Our Old Glory! Name A Stripe! Hurry! Limited space!

The Kochs just pay Rush a few million. No need to complicate things by naming them directly.

Oh, And TRUMP gets printed in very large letters at the top.
///

88 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 12:24:24pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Given that I don’t think Chomsky has ever praised the US in writing or in speech, I really can’t take him seriously on what a patriot is and I definitely won’t take that lecture from Glenn who was eager to put down critics of FP in the past. Greenwald really needs to get off the self-righteous train. I don’t think Snowden is evil or up there with someone like Aldrich Ames or Bob Hannsen but he did by his own admission commit a crime and he is hiding out in a nation that has a much worse record on civil liberties than we do and Glenn can’t handle the fact that’s true so he kneejerks.

And don’t forget the money. Another book, another movie, ad infinitum.

89 EMAILGHAZI  Mar 3, 2015 12:25:08pm

re: #84 Dr. Matt

And the NRA.

“A well regulated Militia, will NEVER be required, to the security of a free State, and that the right of the people to keep and bear fully automatically, high-capacity weapons at ALL TIMES, shall not, ever, ever, never, ever be infringed.”

Each article would have it’s own Corporate Backer.

90 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 12:26:07pm

re: #85 Kragar

Its tiered admin settings, and because of the way they implemented it to “avoid users messing up the settings”, this dipshit has higher privileges than the admins who’ve been on the team for years.

He’s also pulling another specialty of his. He’s giving the real admins conflicting info separately, so each one thinks they’re the only one applying fixes while they’re overwriting each others work, each one slightly different than the others. We’re spread out across 3 time zones, and some people work remotely, so even under the best conditions, coordination can be hard.

And of course, while this is going on, he won’t return telephone calls or emails until everyone else goes home for the day.

Let me guess: this guy is a DOD employee while the rest of you are contractors.

91 Eventual Carrion  Mar 3, 2015 12:26:44pm

re: #76 nines09

Sound like you have one of those managers who decide every once in a while to come on out and manage. “Well I guess I better go down on the floor and see what I can fuck up. Time to manage,”

We used to call that seagull management.

Fly in
Make a lot of noise
Shit on everything
Fly off

92 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:26:47pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

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He’s plotting with Boo-Boo to take over the world’s honey supplies.

93 Jack Burton  Mar 3, 2015 12:26:48pm

re: #70 Justanotherhuman

Chomsky, of course, overlooks the fact that Snowjob is a treasonous thief.

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Not in any way a case in point of what I mentioned above (as no one does or should give a rat’s ass about anything Chomsky says outside of the field of linguistics and formal languages), but there are plenty of people who are otherwise rational in politics that believe this nonsense.

94 blueraven  Mar 3, 2015 12:27:28pm

re: #79 Dave In Austin

BREAKING: House collects enough votes to pass Homeland Security funding; vote nearly complete. cnb.cx

Netanyahu Day news dump

95 Dave In Austin  Mar 3, 2015 12:27:47pm
96 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:28:58pm

re: #95 Dave In Austin

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97 Targetpractice  Mar 3, 2015 12:29:32pm

re: #94 blueraven

Netanyahu Day news dump

Ah, how true. “Everybody’s focusing on Bibi, so let’s smuggle this damned thing through before anybody realizes.”

98 Dave In Austin  Mar 3, 2015 12:30:36pm

re: #96 HappyWarrior

Benny the Small was bitching about his kid having pertussis…

But anti-vaxxers are libtards.//

99 Interesting Times  Mar 3, 2015 12:31:10pm

Isn’t it convenient when the same talking points can be recycled for any situation? e_e

100 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:32:05pm

re: #98 Dave In Austin

Benny the Small was bitching about his kid having pertussis…

Yeah I did see that and I hate to give the guy credit but I think he did call out Loudermik. He’s still a little weasel though who should be playing Eddie Munster at cosplay conventions rather than screeching political analysis on Twtiter though.

101 The War TARDIS  Mar 3, 2015 12:32:05pm

I see another news story about ISIS from CNN quoting Graeme Wood. Who is he exactly, CL said it rang alarms bells, but did she find out for what?

102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 12:33:05pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

This bear looks like he’s just hatched an evil plan.

One Million US Salmon!!!

103 Justanotherhuman  Mar 3, 2015 12:33:44pm

More: Full Justice Department report on Ferguson, Mo., to be released Wednesday; officials will now face choice of negotiating settlement with Justice Department or potentially being sued - @nytimes
read more on nytimes.com

56m
Justice Department finds pattern of police bias, excessive force in Ferguson, Mo. - @nytimes
read more on nytimes.com

104 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:34:00pm

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

One Million US Salmon!!!

Dr. Ebear, a million salmon really isn’t that much these days.

105 EMAILGHAZI  Mar 3, 2015 12:34:17pm

re: #91 Eventual Carrion

We used to call that seagull management.

Fly in
Make a lot of noise
Shit on everything
Fly off

The corporation I used to work for was a manufacturing company with factories in about 7 states. Different divisions and different products. I would travel to and from them weekly and watched the time motion guys, and the purchasing people and logistics and just about anyone who had any say in anything just fuck with things. It would be like some manager would run out with his hair on fire screaming “Paint it BLUE!!!!” Then they would spend time and money and production loses to paint everything BLUE. Until another manager 6 months later would run in flames down the aisles screaming “Paint it YELLOW!!!” and off we would go. It went around in a circle in one plant over the course of about 15 years where it ended up just as it was in the beginning. Management.

106 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:34:52pm

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

More: Full Justice Department report on Ferguson, Mo., to be released Wednesday; officials will now face choice of negotiating settlement with Justice Department or potentially being sued - @nytimes
read more on nytimes.com

56m
Justice Department finds pattern of police bias, excessive force in Ferguson, Mo. - @nytimes
read more on nytimes.com

As we saw, it seems that Wilson is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to that police dep’t. In a related note, I’m interviewing with DOJ tomorrow for a spot with the criminal div’n.

107 Jack Burton  Mar 3, 2015 12:35:13pm

re: #93 Jack Burton

And many of these people feel exactly the same way about Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange, and Barrett Brown. The narrative has been owned, and won by the dudebro-moonbat convergence.

I don’t think there’s any convincing them otherwise and a big show trial of this clown will only strengthen that. I think it would be best if we let Putin throw him under the bus now that he’s no longer useful.

108 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 12:37:41pm

re: #107 Jack Burton

Unlike Nemtsov, killing Eddie would actually bring some political dividends on the PR field, because many will assume that CIA got to him. So he should fear for his skin.

109 Kragar  Mar 3, 2015 12:38:04pm

re: #77 Feline Fearless Leader

Would a sit-down strike by the team get the manager’s boss’s attention? Or is that going over the line and challenging corporate discipline?

The email yesterday “CHECK ALL SETTINGs IMMEDIATELY!”

So I go in and check stuff today, find some errors, ask about them, then notice my latest work was getting disabled.

I email the admins and manager to ask what is going on:

“Why didn’t you wait until we finished making our changes?”

I replied back by attaching their email from yesterday.

I already told our technical lead that I’m doing one more god damn thing on the systems today.

110 Eventual Carrion  Mar 3, 2015 12:38:10pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

As we saw, it seems that Wilson is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to that police dep’t. In a related note, I’m interviewing with DOJ tomorrow for a spot with the criminal div’n.

Congratulations. I understand they are looking for me too, but I would guess for different reasons than yours.

111 Kragar  Mar 3, 2015 12:39:02pm

re: #90 The Mother Of All Pies

Let me guess: this guy is a DOD employee while the rest of you are contractors.

No, luckily we’re not in that boat.

112 Swift2991  Mar 3, 2015 12:40:51pm

No guarantee, Eddie. Aside from the Constitution of the United States.

113 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 12:41:54pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

The DOJ investigation is likely resulting in no federal civil rights charges against Wilson for killing Brown.

But the separate DOJ investigation into Ferguson found systemic racism and racial profiling - Ferguson will either have to enter into a consent agreement, or be sued. Most municipalities that find themselves in this situation enter into consent agreements.

I expect Ferguson to enter into the consent agreement, which will likely include firing the police form/reforming the FPD, changing municipal policies, and taking other steps to reduce treating minorities as a piggy bank for municipal leaders/govt.

114 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:43:11pm

re: #113 lawhawk

The DOJ investigation is likely resulting in no federal civil rights charges against Wilson for killing Brown.

But the separate DOJ investigation into Ferguson found systemic racism and racial profiling - Ferguson will either have to enter into a consent agreement, or be sued. Most municipalities that find themselves in this situation enter into consent agreements.

I expect Ferguson to enter into the consent agreement, which will likely include firing the police form/reforming the FPD, changing municipal policies, and taking other steps to reduce treating minorities as a piggy bank for municipal leaders/govt.

I’ve given up hope of any indictment on Wilson given that McCulloch poisoned that well big time but it seems to me that DOJ wants to prevent future tragedies. Really hoping they can fix the problems.

115 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 12:43:24pm
116 lawhawk  Mar 3, 2015 12:43:58pm

Support. It doesn’t mean what you think it means. All that support by the House GOP shouldn’t add a single vote to your impending election vote.

118 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 12:47:08pm

re: #108 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Unlike Nemtsov, killing Eddie would actually bring some political dividends on the PR field, because many will assume that CIA got to him. So he should fear for his skin.

Mentioned that earlier in the thread…that might have been one of the considerations that led Snowden to rethink his position. Putin would have nothing to lose except a loser living on government money.

119 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:47:35pm

re: #115 The Mother Of All Pies

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Yeah except he’s past halfway on his second term as president. Derp. Seeing now that they said this in 2008 but still. Derp.

120 HappyWarrior  Mar 3, 2015 12:49:53pm

re: #116 lawhawk

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Support. It doesn’t mean what you think it means. All that support by the House GOP shouldn’t add a single vote to your impending election vote.

I don’t speak Hebrew but is support the Hebrew word for ass-kissing by right wing assholes who don’t actually care about Israel but like using it as a tool against Obama?

121 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 12:50:05pm

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Mentioned that earlier in the thread…that might have been one of the considerations that led Snowden to rethink his position. Putin would have nothing to lose except a loser living on government money.

He should get esp. worried if officials begin to publicly assure him that he’s completely safe.

122 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 12:51:05pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

They have their own version of Battlefield Earth - Battlefield Israel.

123 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 3, 2015 12:52:28pm

re: #122 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

They have their own version of Battlefield Earth - Battlefield Israel.

Revelations could have been written by L. Ron himself…

124 Nyet  Mar 3, 2015 12:54:32pm
125 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 3, 2015 12:54:34pm

This sucks just as much as an Obama dartboard sucks==>

126 Eventual Carrion  Mar 3, 2015 12:59:37pm

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Revelations could have been written by L. Ron himself…

I prefer to think of it being written by a sheep herder sitting in the meadow all high on some sheep dung mushrooms or something.

“Dude, and then … and then here comes this humongous wheel of fire … coming right at me. Scrot, I about soiled my robe. Then these horses …”

127 De Kolta Chair  Mar 3, 2015 1:18:58pm

re: #29 klys (maker of Silmarils)

No, no, the pole dancer was his girlfriend.

Yeah, right.

128 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 3, 2015 1:20:57pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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129 TedStriker  Mar 3, 2015 2:11:14pm

re: #49 Feline Fearless Leader

Maybe he wants to come home so that he can write his tell-all book and cash in on it - rather than all the monies going to Greenwald and company while he shivers in Moscow.
//

No sarc with that, IMO…I think that Snowden not only sees that his 15 minutes is making money for GG that he is’t seeing a dime of, but that his position with his Russian “hosts” is getting more tenuous.

130 Chez Ko Pe  Mar 3, 2015 2:11:19pm

re: #16 Justanotherhuman

“But, I AM special!”

131 Chez Ko Pe  Mar 3, 2015 2:23:06pm

re: #46 Great White Snark

We can tell him no, right? Let him remain stateless. The gall of him to make all those absurd claims about the United States along with his bFF GG and now wants to trust our system? All that means to me is Russia must suck worse than Club Fed.

I like this idea very much. You know he wants a gold star sticker and Stay-Out-Of-Jail-Free card for the benevolent sacrifice of returning unto and shining his light upon us. Screw that noise. Let him spend the last few weeks of his glamorous life looking over his shoulder in sunny free Russia.

132 TedStriker  Mar 3, 2015 2:24:33pm

re: #90 The Mother Of All Pies

Let me guess: this guy is a DOD employee while the rest of you are contractors.

Sounds like a prime example of the Peter Principle.

133 DarknSilentNight  Mar 3, 2015 6:54:24pm

Evening, all. Kinda new here. Just want to drop a few points on Eddie-baby.
1) I want him to ABSOTIVELY, POSILUTELY get a completely FAIR AND IMPARTIAL trial. Why? Because I don’t want that little turd to get anything removed on appeal. I want no one to have ANY ammunition to say, “It was unfair!” I realize that will still happen, but I want it minimized to the greatest extent possible.
2) I’m concerned that if he does come back, there might be gun battles in the DOJ over who gets to prosecute him. The same thing happened with John Gotti. (Yes, I realize that is ancient history, but it’s all I have right now.) I’m concerned that the politics might get mixed into this and we won’t have the most effective prosecution possible.
3) Do not worry about Eddie getting any money out of this. I believe there is ample precedent that you cannot profit from criminal misdeeds. Something tells me that if that were to happen, the FBI and a few other agencies would show up with some financial eggheads to put the kibosh on it.

134 wrenchwench  Mar 3, 2015 6:58:33pm

re: #133 DarknSilentNight

Welcome, hatchling.

135 DarknSilentNight  Mar 3, 2015 7:03:34pm

re: #134 wrenchwench

Thank you! I’ll try not to make too much of a mess.

136 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 3, 2015 7:56:27pm

re: #135 DarknSilentNight

Thank you! I’ll try not to make too much of a mess.

Just so you know (since it took me a while to figure it out), conversation tends to stay on the first thread listed on the main page. We call it going upstairs. :)

137 GojiraGav  Mar 4, 2015 10:59:08am

And now they assert with no evidence that the trail would be fixed


not at all like what happened with Julien Assange and Sweden.


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