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1 BigPapa  Mar 7, 2015 10:54:25am

This is great, thanks for posting. I can’t wait to hear John Lewis’ comments.

2 wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2015 10:55:17am

Nelly B retweeted:

3 wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2015 10:59:04am
4 Great White Snark  Mar 7, 2015 11:03:58am

MLK was so right to call on white ministers to march with them. They paid a price and set an example for the rest of us.

BTW one point we can insist on-Almost without exception it is a system fail when a policeman kills an unarmed suspect. As a bare minimum expectation of our police they must be able to effect an arrest against an unarmed person without killing them. As the standard every freaking time.

5 wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2015 11:06:51am
6 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 11:07:14am

re: #4 Great White Snark

I was just reading bout Rev James Reeb (who’s attack and death was portrayed in the Selma film)…

…

7 Amory Blaine  Mar 7, 2015 11:08:33am

re: #4 Great White Snark

Father James Edmund Groppi

In his capacity as NAACP advisor, Groppi organized an all Black male group called the Milwaukee Commandos. They were formed to help quell violence during the “Freedom Marches” and, with the NAACP Youth Council, mounted a lengthy, continuous demonstration against the city of Milwaukee on behalf of fair housing. He led these fair housing marches across the 16th Street Viaduct (since renamed in his honor) spanning the Menomonee River Valley. The half-mile wide valley was considered to be a symbolic divide for the city.[2][3] Throughout this period, he received both physical and moral support from human rights activists like Dick Gregory and Martin Luther King, Jr. Though he was denigrated and arrested on numerous occasions for standing firm in his beliefs, he was instrumental in dramatizing the segregated housing situation in Milwaukee. These efforts led to enactment of an open-housing law in the city.

A great man.

8 Unabogie  Mar 7, 2015 11:08:54am

This really should transcend politics, but I have already seen complaints from the fever swamp that this is Obama fomenting racial hatred.

9 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 11:09:38am
10 Charles Johnson  Mar 7, 2015 11:13:31am

Edmund Pettus, by the way, was a pro-slavery Confederate General who became a leader of the Ku Klux Klan in Alabama after the war, and was elected to the US Senate as a Dixiecrat.

11 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 11:15:16am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Don’t tell Kevin Williamson where the Dixiecrats went.

12 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 11:15:37am
13 #FergusonFireside  Mar 7, 2015 11:17:07am
14 Great White Snark  Mar 7, 2015 11:17:20am

re: #8 Unabogie

Screw those people. Reminds me public shunning had its uses.

15 BigPapa  Mar 7, 2015 11:17:38am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Edmund Pettus, by the way, was a pro-slavery Confederate General who became a leader of the Ku Klux Klan in Alabama after the war, and was elected to the US Senate as a Dixiecrat.

They should rename it to the John Lewis Memorial Bridge.

16 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 11:18:17am
“…Scores of U.S. lawmakers are converging on tiny Selma, Alabama, for a large commemoration of a civil rights anniversary. But their ranks didn’t include a single member of House Republican leadership until the day the event began— a point that isn’t lost on congressional black leaders.”
politico.com
17 wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2015 11:18:55am

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18 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 11:19:53am
19 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 7, 2015 11:23:07am

re: #3 wrenchwench

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It wasn’t about segregation!! It was about States’ Rights!! Taxation…Representation…mumble, mumble…

20 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 11:24:34am

prepare for RWNJ tears!

21 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 11:28:01am

Meanwhile in gopville:

22 bratwurst  Mar 7, 2015 11:29:46am

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) suggested Saturday that the Justice Department’s criminal corruption charges against Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) are political retribution against the New Jersey Democrat for opposing the White House’s negotiations with Iran.

(at some point, it will become easier for Cruz just to mention what dastardly deeds he DOESN’T accuse to Obama administration of)

23 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 11:33:25am
24 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2015 11:34:50am

Just saw Sen. Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III at Selma, via AlJaz coverage.

O_o

25 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2015 11:36:42am
26 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 11:37:20am
27 Great White Snark  Mar 7, 2015 11:38:14am

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just saw Sen. Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III at Selma, via AlJaz coverage.

O_o

Ya know what’s a shame? The man was not invited & on again and again by our major networks. Al Jaz stepped up. Qatari family owned IIRC.

28 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2015 11:43:42am

re: #27 Great White Snark

O/T, but all three of the leaves on my orchid have fallen off (they looked and felt really nice except for little bit of yellow on each where they attached to the stem). The roots look really good though. I haven’t killed it, have I?

29 wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2015 11:43:56am
30 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 11:44:56am
31 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2015 11:45:17am

May I just say how fucking appalling it is that not ONE GOP congressional leader came out for this? NOT ONE.

Fuck them. Fuck all of them.

This shit should NOT be a polarizing issue in 2015.

If these men actually were the Christians they claim to be they’d be on the front lines of this thing,

32 The War TARDIS  Mar 7, 2015 11:45:55am

re: #27 Great White Snark

Him and his party are try to kill the Voting Rights Act, and the Civil Rights Act.

He shouldn’t be there. He is trying to return the nation to the Jim Crow era.

33 wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2015 11:46:55am

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

May I just say how fucking appalling it is that not ONE GOP congressional leader came out for this, NOT ONE.

Fuck them. Fuck all of them.

This shit should NOT be a polarizing issue in 2015.

If these men actually were the Christians they claim to be they’d be on the front lines of this thing,

34 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 11:48:32am

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh, Tim Scott is there, and Kevin McCarthy was added at last minute “shamed” by media and the like, but claiming a “grand” friendship with John Lewis.

Yet he only added Selma at least minute? Yeah…alright then.

GWB and Laura are there

35 Great White Snark  Mar 7, 2015 11:51:44am

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

best ya ask the real expert.

@ladydragon62

36 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2015 11:52:46am

re: #35 Great White Snark

best ya ask the real expert.

@ladydragon62

thank you. I’ll ask after the speech.

37 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 7, 2015 11:54:01am

Whites were segregated too!! But they were peaceful and didn’t cause trouble!!

38 Great White Snark  Mar 7, 2015 11:54:31am

re: #32 The War TARDIS

The point is they are all part of the history. Shine the light on all the players. Saw a segment on Wallace and then his daughter. Very interesting.

39 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 7, 2015 11:58:02am

John Lewis has a wallet that says “Bad Motherfucker” on it. Never met him, but I did meet Jim Clyburn. True Heroes.

40 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 11:58:46am
41 Charles Johnson  Mar 7, 2015 11:58:58am
42 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 11:59:43am

re: #40 jaunte

girl..I had to turn that mess. George Wallace’s daughter was a better interview that that mess. That woman is still bitter and can’t accept that yes, ur father was ordered, but he also condoned…CNN was good until then, but they can miss me with that mess

43 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 7, 2015 11:59:55am

WTF does BTP mean?

44 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 11:59:57am
45 Charles Johnson  Mar 7, 2015 12:01:16pm

re: #43 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

“Black People Time.”

46 #FergusonFireside  Mar 7, 2015 12:02:31pm

re: #42 psddluva4evah

girl..I had to turn that mess. George Wallace’s daughter was a better interview that that mess. That woman is still bitter and can’t accept that yes, ur father was ordered, but he also condoned…CNN was good until then, but they can miss me with that mess

I took RWC’s advice & turned on Al Jazeera America.

47 Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2015 12:03:16pm

Not going to look for it but my news aggregator found an article by Gateway Pundit blaming Bloody Sunday on the Democrats.

Who are the real racists after all. /

48 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 7, 2015 12:03:30pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

“Black People Time.”

Thanks. I never heard that before.

49 Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2015 12:04:01pm

re: #46 #FergusonFireside

I took RWC’s advice & turned on Al Jazeera America.

Kinda sad when the best news on America is from a non-American news service.

50 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 12:04:10pm
51 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 7, 2015 12:04:50pm

The governor of Alabama totally ignores the Alabama Supreme Court’s FU about gay marriage.

52 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2015 12:06:58pm

re: #51 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

The governor of Alabama totally ignores the Alabama Supreme Court’s FU about gay marriage.

He ignores a lot of things about Alabama. Guess that’s what cheerleaders do.

53 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 7, 2015 12:07:56pm

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

He ignores a lot of things about Alabama. Guess that’s what cheerleaders do.

I wasn’t going to make a bullet-point list. That one just stood out. Hopefully Obama will call it out. ;)

54 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2015 12:09:04pm

John Lewis speaking now

55 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 12:09:49pm
” In December, Bentley said he would be open to expanding Medicaid — if the federal government let the state control the money and put requirements on those who receive the health care coverage. He said then he’s never been opposed to block grant funding, but he hadn’t talked to federal officials about it as a possible expansion mechanism.
“It may not be a block grant as such, but, yes we are talking to (the federal Centers of Medicare and Medicaid Services) about the 100 to 138 percent (poverty level) working poor,” Bentley said Friday. “My stipulation is that if they are able-bodied, they have to work or they have to be in a workforce training program.”
alabamasbest.org
56 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 12:09:58pm

“He is a civil rights icon, and a liltle girl from Selma stands in your shadow!”

‪#‎Selm50‬…Rep Sewell introducing Rep John Lewis!

57 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 12:12:08pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

They know their base.

58 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 12:14:05pm

Alright, gonna listen to Rep John Lewis now.

59 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2015 12:14:33pm

John Lewis has me in tears.

60 Tigger2  Mar 7, 2015 12:16:43pm

re: #26 psddluva4evah

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I remember watching it on the evening news.

61 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 7, 2015 12:18:43pm

He seemed truly excited to present the President Barack Obama. :)

62 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 12:22:00pm
63 ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2015 12:26:36pm

So, only a few token GOP members made it to a historical day for many people. And by many I mean people of all colors. Add in African Americans make up 13+% of the population, and other people of color/race are also interested in how minorities are treated and possibly 50% of America will have an interest in things like very few Republicans attending the event.

Does anyone in the Republican party actually understand politics? I know…it is such a simple question. But, come on…GOPers can’t even fake it, that is how isolated they have become from mainstream America. They can’t even do the oldest political trick in the book…act glad to meet people, shake hands, take pictures and kiss babies.

Or, does the GOP not even care in something as simple as how they look because they know where their actual political power comes from? Yes, corporations and GOP fat cats are the power, just so long as they get that next round of checks in. And we already know what your average GOP congressperson likes to kiss.

64 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 12:28:39pm

re: #63 ObserverArt

Does anyone in the Republican party actually understand politics?

And today, Selma50, southerner Lindsey Graham is in Iowa criticizing the state for having voted twice for the nation’s first black president.

65 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 7, 2015 12:31:18pm

re: #63 ObserverArt

So, only a few token GOP members made it to a historical day for many people. And by many I mean people of all colors. Add in African Americans make up 13+% of the population, and other people of color/race are also interested in how minorities are treated and possibly 50% of America will have an interest in things like very few Republicans attending the event.

Does anyone in the Republican party actually understand politics? I know…it is such a simple question. But, come on…GOPers can’t even fake it, that is how isolated they have become from mainstream America. They can’t even do the oldest political trick in the book…act glad to meet people, shake hands, take pictures and kiss babies.

Or, does the GOP not even care in something as simple as how they look because they know where their actual political power comes from? Yes, corporations and GOP fat cats are the power, just so long as they get that next round of checks in. And we already know what your average GOP congressperson likes to kiss.

They don’t need any of those things any more. They’ve got gerrymandering, voter suppression, and complete control of the media. They’re a permanent minority that will remain in control indefinitely. Why ingratiate themselves with anybody except fellow assholes?

66 Great White Snark  Mar 7, 2015 12:32:01pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

O/T, but all three of the leaves on my orchid have fallen off (they looked and felt really nice except for little bit of yellow on each where they attached to the stem). The roots look really good though. I haven’t killed it, have I?

Could ya drop me an email? I’ll fwd to Dragon_Lady

67 BigPapa  Mar 7, 2015 12:32:42pm

Contrasting Selma marchers as patriots just like the founders is a very powerful message.

68 ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2015 12:35:09pm

re: #61 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

He seemed truly excited to present the President Barack Obama. :)

As well he should. Beaming pride knowing that doing something like walking into a police force you know is going to attack you actually helped bring about real change to help produce the man you are introducing as president. Not many real heroes get to see such a result. He truly deserves this day. I’m glad to get to watch it.

By the way…I like how the president is doing this speech. Tying in all ‘movements’ into today is a great move and depoliticizes this being just about ‘race’ and not about all rights. He is a hell of a speaker.

69 BigPapa  Mar 7, 2015 12:38:09pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

John Lewis speaking now

Dammit I missed him, I wanted to hear him live. Will be trying to find that after Obama is done. Obama is in the zone now.

70 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 7, 2015 12:38:15pm

I actually wonder what Roy Moore is doing at this moment.

71 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 12:38:52pm

re: #70 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

He’s probably watching the Iowa Ag Summit.

72 BeachDem  Mar 7, 2015 12:40:17pm
73 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 12:40:23pm

“…citizens in Ferguson and New York and Cleveland just want the same thing young people here marched for - the protection of the law.”

74 Charles Johnson  Mar 7, 2015 12:40:37pm

Chuck is being a total racist pig, but I wont spoil this moment by posting his latest nasty tweet.

75 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 12:41:25pm

Obama: 50 yrs after Selma, the Voting Rights Act “stands weakened, its future subject to partisan rancor … How can that be?” #Selma50

76 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 12:41:51pm
77 Great White Snark  Mar 7, 2015 12:41:59pm

This is one powerful speech. Dialing up the intensity looks good on him.

78 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 12:42:45pm
79 BeachDem  Mar 7, 2015 12:44:14pm

Bringing it. So proud of this President.

80 #FergusonFireside  Mar 7, 2015 12:44:32pm

Hucksters!!!

81 Iwouldprefernotto  Mar 7, 2015 12:45:20pm

The comments on the voting rights act blew me away.

82 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 12:47:47pm

“America is not some fragile thing.”

83 Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2015 12:47:52pm

re: #70 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I actually wonder what Roy Moore is doing at this moment.

“The part of George Wallace will be portrayed by governor Bentley.”

84 Tigger2  Mar 7, 2015 12:48:06pm

I think this could be the best Obama speech I have heard.

85 StephenMeansMe  Mar 7, 2015 12:50:18pm

re: #65 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They don’t need any of those things any more. They’ve got gerrymandering, voter suppression, and complete control of the media. They’re a permanent minority that will remain in control indefinitely. Why ingratiate themselves with anybody except fellow assholes?

It really seems that, aside fron the real fanatical true believers, the conservative movement has utterly devoted itself to bilking the rubes. Everything they do in government is essentially bullshitting, so they can turn around and say “zomg they’re taking our freedumb” and let the Social Security donation checks flow in. Which, to me, would actually be worse than if they were merely bigoted ideologues.

86 Amory Blaine  Mar 7, 2015 12:50:37pm

Awesome speech.

87 Great White Snark  Mar 7, 2015 12:50:50pm

re: #84 Tigger2

I think this could be the best Obama speech I have heard.

Easily so.

88 Charles Johnson  Mar 7, 2015 12:51:36pm
89 #FergusonFireside  Mar 7, 2015 12:51:40pm

Co-sign

90 Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2015 12:52:03pm

re: #84 Tigger2

I think this could be the best Obama speech I have heard.

If you’re going to talk in the shadow of MLK, you want to bring your best stuff.

91 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 12:52:50pm

WOW!

92 BigPapa  Mar 7, 2015 12:54:08pm

Obama was really in his element and just killed it. The speech was full of truths and made me feel really uplifted.

93 Tigger2  Mar 7, 2015 12:55:25pm

It’s over? No Republican or Teabagger rebuttal. ///

94 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 12:59:44pm

Read the full transcript of Obama’s emotional speech in Selma: bit.ly

95 Mattand  Mar 7, 2015 1:00:53pm

re: #19 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It wasn’t about segregation!! It was about States’ Rights!! Taxation…Representation…mumble, mumble…

Jesus, I just went through this shit on Facebook the other day with some asswipe friend of my cousin, on a larger thread about how it’s not fair that white pride isn’t a thing.

Still kills me that 160 plus years later, people are still fucking fighting this war, and denying the cause behind it.

96 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 1:01:02pm

re: #93 Tigger2

It’s over? No Republican or Teabagger rebuttal. ///

Here’s Jeb:

97 Tigger2  Mar 7, 2015 1:01:56pm

re: #89 #FergusonFireside

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Co-sign

Fully Agree.

98 Mattand  Mar 7, 2015 1:02:13pm

re: #72 BeachDem

I sure some things have changed, but goddamn if the Republican troglodytes that Rep. Lewis works with aren’t trying undo even those small gains.

99 Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2015 1:04:17pm

re: #93 Tigger2

It’s over? No Republican or Teabagger rebuttal. ///

Freep is not impressed:

“So I actually turned into Fox news to see the ceremony and who should be yapping but John Lewis, the liar who claimed Tea Party protestors spit on him. I turned it off. It is like watching a kkk rally.”

100 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 1:05:49pm
101 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 1:06:51pm

re: #100 psddluva4evah

Giuliani Lite.

102 Tigger2  Mar 7, 2015 1:07:42pm

re: #99 Decatur Deb

Freep is not impressed:

“So I actually turned into Fox news to see the ceremony and who should be yapping but John Lewis, the liar who claimed Tea Party protestors spit on him. I turned it off. It is like watching a kkk rally.”

I have gotten to the point of not caring one bit about what the Rightwing of this country thinks about anything. And I sure as hell let them know it whenever I talk to one of them.

103 Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2015 1:07:51pm

re: #101 jaunte

Giuliani Lite.

Is that an Anheuser-Bush product?

104 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 1:08:09pm

“Florida Man Ignores Presidential Speech”

105 Amory Blaine  Mar 7, 2015 1:10:44pm

Well here I go and ruin a nice thread, but this is exactly relevant to the discussion.

Scott Walker bid to end integration program has schools seeking answers

The governor has proposed eliminating the long-standing racial integration program, a move that could redirect $60 million in school funding and have a cultural and financial impact on Milwaukee, nearby suburban school systems and districts like Racine, Madison and Wausau.

The proposal has districts analyzing the complicated structure of school funding to try to get their arms around the potential impact of ending Chapter 220.

“It’s hard to speculate,” said Bob Lang, director of the Wisconsin Legislative Fiscal Bureau, which has yet to complete its own analysis of the legislation.

The governor’s proposal calls for phasing out the Chapter 220 program to reflect declining participation by school districts and pupils, according to Walker spokeswoman Laurel Patrick.

Racist white-flight fuckstains love this kind of shit. This isn’t a dog whistle it’s an airhorn.

106 Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2015 1:12:15pm

re: #102 Tigger2

I have gotten to the point of not caring one bit about what the Rightwing of this country thinks about anything. And I sure as hell let them know it when I talk to one of them.

I feed on their derp—It’s like Gelfling juice to a Skeksis.

107 De Kolta Chair  Mar 7, 2015 1:15:15pm

This sentence from a NY Times article about the president’s speech at the Selma Memorial caught my eye:

Among local residents here, there has been an effort to heal racial scars in a town where no whites attend the local public high school, opting instead for a private academy founded three months after Bloody Sunday.

108 BigPapa  Mar 7, 2015 1:18:33pm

re: #107 De Kolta Chair

Oh wow.

109 jaunte  Mar 7, 2015 1:19:09pm
110 Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2015 1:19:17pm

re: #107 De Kolta Chair

This sentence from a NY Times article about the president’s speech at the Selma Memorial caught my eye:

Among local residents here, there has been an effort to heal racial scars in a town where no whites attend the local public high school, opting instead for a private academy founded three months after Bloody Sunday.

Their old alma mater—“We Get Our Asses Kicked In AAA” Highschool

111 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 1:22:55pm
@dbernstein 6m6 minutes ago
The speech President Barack Obama just gave at Selma is posted at C-SPAN: c-span.org
112 ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2015 1:24:07pm

re: #84 Tigger2

I think this could be the best Obama speech I have heard.

re: #87 Great White Snark

Easily so.

It gets my vote!

113 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 7, 2015 1:29:44pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

I feed on their derp—It’s like Gelfling juice to a Skeksis.

Awesome.

114 CuriousLurker  Mar 7, 2015 1:32:47pm

My favorite zinger of the day (so far):

115 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 1:33:27pm

Happening now…President Obama and First Family along with other marching across Edmund Pettus Bridge!

new.livestream.com

116 Amory Blaine  Mar 7, 2015 1:34:46pm

re: #115 psddluva4evah

Thanks for the link!

117 De Kolta Chair  Mar 7, 2015 1:38:49pm

With the Wildcats of my alma mater, The University of Arizona, struttin’ their fine stuff on the court right now, I’d like to take this opportunity to salute the memory of trailblazing basketball coach Fred “The Fox” Snowden (1936-1994), who was the first African-American head coach at a major university. Fred was a real game changer.

Oh, and speaking of Alabama, Fred, the son of a sharecropper, was born and partly raised in Brewton, Alabama.

118 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2015 1:39:26pm
119 makeitstop  Mar 7, 2015 1:39:57pm

re: #116 Amory Blaine

Thanks for the link!

Seconded. I didn’t watch, but just reading the text as prepared brought a tear to my eye.

I think if I’d actually watched it, I’d be a blubbering mess right now. Such an eloquent and inspiring speech.

120 Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2015 1:43:23pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

I feed on their derp—It’s like Gelfling juice to a Skeksis.

+1 for a Dark Crystal metaphor.

121 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2015 1:47:32pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Chuck is being a total racist pig, but I wont spoil this moment by posting his latest nasty tweet.

He’s a product of white privilege, and private prep school and private conservative college education.
His worldview is so freakin narrow, he has no idea how ridiculous his twitter opinions are.

122 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 1:50:05pm
123 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 1:51:15pm
124 BeachDem  Mar 7, 2015 1:52:22pm

re: #98 Mattand

I sure some things have changed, but goddamn if the Republican troglodytes that Rep. Lewis works with aren’t trying undo even those small gains.

I was just moved by the photo in the tweet (and by John Lewis, on a daily basis.)

125 Timothy Watson  Mar 7, 2015 1:52:59pm

re: #123 psddluva4evah

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We should send that picture to every asshole who was retweeting the ‘Obama didn’t go to Paris and take a picture in a staged photo-op’ meme.

126 ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2015 1:55:21pm

I was never a huge fan of the man, but I give big credit to “W” Bush for being there and actually getting into the event.

I hope he tells his brother, the candidate Jeb, how good a time he had, and he should have been there. In more ways than one.

127 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 7, 2015 1:58:02pm

re: #126 ObserverArt

I was never a huge fan of the man, but I give big credit to “W” Bush for being there and actually getting into the event.

I hope he tells his brother, the candidate Jeb, how good a time he had, and he should have been there. In more ways than one.

You’ll never hear me say anything good about the Shrub, but I believe he is sincerely not a racist in any way.

Of course, he’s just as bad, because he let his handlers gin up racists’ votes and never spoke out against it.

128 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 1:59:18pm

I just have one regret—well, 2: That I wasn’t there today and that I wasn’t there in 1965.

But Pres Obama spoke for me, and so did many others. Thank you.

129 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 2:00:54pm

President Obama, praising the 1965 march in Selma, Ala.: ‘What could be more American than what happened in this place?’
end of alert

130 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 2:01:57pm

And thank you for this, John Lewis:

Rep. John Lewis, at Selma celebration: ‘We are one people, one family, the human family and we all live in the same house.’
end of alert

131 De Kolta Chair  Mar 7, 2015 2:03:13pm

re: #126 ObserverArt

I hope he tells his brother, the candidate Jeb, how good a time he had, and he should have been there. In more ways than one.

Speaking of Jeb, the top story right now at the NY Times: Charter School Hailed by Bush in Miami Ended in Ruin

A school that Jeb Bush co-founded in 1996 has been a rallying point as he considers running for president. But when he tells his tale of achievement, he avoids the school’s name and unhappy closure in 2008.

132 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 2:04:13pm
133 sagehen  Mar 7, 2015 2:05:32pm

re: #127 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You’ll never hear me say anything good about the Shrub, but I believe he is sincerely not a racist in any way.

Of course, he’s just as bad, because he let his handlers gin up racists’ votes and never spoke out against it.

I honestly believe he was oblivious enough to not even realize.

134 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 7, 2015 2:09:40pm

re: #133 sagehen

I honestly believe he was oblivious enough to not even realize.

That could be.

135 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 2:12:32pm

love that twitter is captioning this pic…

136 De Kolta Chair  Mar 7, 2015 2:13:11pm
Flags of our fathers, mothers, sisters and brothers
137 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 2:15:07pm

President Obama, in Selma: ‘Everywhere in this country, there are 1st steps to be taken, and new ground to cover and more bridges to be crossed’
end of alert

138 Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2015 2:15:24pm

re: #131 De Kolta Chair

Speaking of Jeb, the top story right now at the NY Times: Charter School Hailed by Bush in Miami Ended in Ruin

Jeb’s past is turning out to be a veritable gold mine. And the difference is that, unlike Dubya, he can’t play dumb well enough to get away with it.

139 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 2:15:34pm

Wingnuts spread this mugshot to prove that Tony Robinson shot in Madison was an armed robber:

mugshots.com

But it seems like it’s an entirely different guy with different facial features.

Image: tonyrobinson.jpg_1718483346.jpg

140 ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2015 2:15:52pm

re: #129 Justanotherhuman

President Obama, praising the 1965 march in Selma, Ala.: ‘What could be more American than what happened in this place?’
end of alert

That was the great feature of his speech in my opinion. He made what happened at Selma equal to other struggles and achievements. It took it out of the sole realm of race and made it about America and everything that has happened to get us to this point in time.

He made references to all kinds of events and groups and their struggles, tied it all up nicely in the real reason for flags and eagles in your internet memes and social media headers and in a subtle way opened up the next election to be all about ‘those struggles’ again to tie it into gay rights and voter laws and turnout.

In a sense, he made it a pure political speech, but in it was a real human speech devoid of politics and forcing everyone to deal with the real facts and the heart. I’m no political speech historian or critic, but I put this whole deal today as masterful.

And he can deliver a speech. I really don’t think anyone in my time (Kennedy on -) has been this good.

141 Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2015 2:18:06pm

re: #139 Nyet

Wingnuts spread this mug shot to prove that Tony Robertson shot in Madison was an armed robber:

mugshots.com

But it seems like it’s an entirely different guy with different facial features.

Image: tonyrobinson.jpg_1718483346.jpg

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You mean the wingnuts plugged in a victim’s name into a search engine, grabbed the first mug shot they could find, and ran with it without checking to make sure they had the right guy?

SAY IT AIN’T SO!!!/////

142 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 2:18:36pm
143 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 2:18:47pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

Because all black people look alike, doncha know.

144 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 2:19:28pm

Chuck already went with it, and the comment sections of news sites are full of these claims.

145 #FergusonFireside  Mar 7, 2015 2:19:37pm

re: #139 Nyet

Wingnuts spread this mug shot to prove that Tony Robertson shot in Madison was an armed robber:

mugshots.com

But it seems like it’s an entirely different guy with different facial features.

Image: tonyrobinson.jpg_1718483346.jpg

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Their first step is to dehumanize.

puke.

146 BeachDem  Mar 7, 2015 2:20:16pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

You mean the wingnuts plugged in a victim’s name into a search engine, grabbed the first mug shot they could find, and ran with it without checking to make sure they had the right guy?

SAY IT AIN’T SO!!!/////

I’m sure upchuck will be on the case and doxxing everyone he can find any minute. He’ll probably be going after the girls in the various pictures with the actual murdered young man, because of course he will.

147 Timothy Watson  Mar 7, 2015 2:21:26pm

re: #139 Nyet

Wingnuts spread this mug shot to prove that Tony Robertson shot in Madison was an armed robber:

mugshots.com

But it seems like it’s an entirely different guy with different facial features.

Image: tonyrobinson.jpg_1718483346.jpg

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A COUNTY OF 500,000 AND THERE’S ONLY ONE TONY ROBINSON LIVING THERE!!1!! CONFIRMED FACT!!11!

Sterilization of these people is the only solution.

148 BeachDem  Mar 7, 2015 2:22:13pm

re: #142 psddluva4evah

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Fuck Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

That. is. all.

149 Tigger2  Mar 7, 2015 2:22:38pm

re: #148 BeachDem

Fuck Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

That. is. all.

You beat me to it.

150 Drive By Commenter  Mar 7, 2015 2:23:32pm

re: #96 jaunte

Did you see the turd he pinched off there?

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) denounced the Affordable Care Act and its health insurance exchanges on Saturday, calling instead for a “market-oriented” alternative in line with what many in his party support.

“We’ve created a monstrosity of consolidating power in Washington, D.C., suppressing wages, making it uncertain for investment. In fact, the greatest job suppressor in the so-called recovery that we’ve gone through is Obamacare. And I think replacing Obamacare with a market-oriented approach — that is, where local and state input starts to drive the policies away from this top-down system — is something I think we ought to be doing,”
Bush said at the Iowa Ag Summit, a forum on agriculture issues that also drew several other would-be presidential hopefuls.

Can you count all the dog whistle key words used in this dissertation on imbecility? Ignore the fact it’s an outright lie. They do.

151 BeachDem  Mar 7, 2015 2:23:35pm

re: #145 #FergusonFireside

Their first step is to dehumanize.

puke.

Police chief got a bit of a jump on them, before he even revealed the poor kid’s name.

Puke as well.

152 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 2:23:40pm

re: #147 Timothy Watson

Let’s not go there, even if my gut says yes.

153 Tigger2  Mar 7, 2015 2:26:37pm

re: #150 nines09

Did you see the turd he pinched off there?

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) denounced the Affordable Care Act and its health insurance exchanges on Saturday, calling instead for a “market-oriented” alternative in line with what many in his party support.

“We’ve created a monstrosity of consolidating power in Washington, D.C., suppressing wages, making it uncertain for investment. In fact, the greatest job suppressor in the so-called recovery that we’ve gone through is Obamacare. And I think replacing Obamacare with a market-oriented approach — that is, where local and state input starts to drive the policies away from this top-down system — is something I think we ought to be doing,”
Bush said at the Iowa Ag Summit, a forum on agriculture issues that also drew several other would-be presidential hopefuls.

Can you count all the dog whistle key words used in this dissertation on imbecility? Ignore the fact it’s an outright lie. They do.

“market-oriented” alternative”

Isn’t that pretty much what we had and it didn’t work.

154 Targetpractice  Mar 7, 2015 2:28:44pm

re: #153 Tigger2

“market-oriented” alternative”

Isn’t that pretty much what we had and it didn’t work.

Like most of the talk about an alternative, it’s empty rhetoric. They haven’t a fucking clue how to make it happen, because all the good ideas they had were contained in the ACA.

155 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2015 2:34:49pm
156 Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2015 2:34:51pm

re: #122 psddluva4evah

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I could feel the sphincters of his Secret Service agents puckering from here.

The President is a brave man. There’s way too many people there who want his head on their wall, along with the weapons and skills to do it.

157 Tigger2  Mar 7, 2015 2:35:03pm

re: #154 Targetpractice

Like most of the talk about an alternative, it’s empty rhetoric. They haven’t a fucking clue how to make it happen, because all the good ideas they had were contained in the ACA.

If you outlawed these 3 words, Market, Based, and Solution the Republican Politicians really wouldn’t have much to say.

158 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 2:35:25pm
159 BeachDem  Mar 7, 2015 2:35:41pm

A SWAT team for a marijuana bust? A fucking SWAT team?
An unarmed man, shot in the face, dead.
And the now standard police statement:

“They were met with resistance and a shooting incurred,” Volusia County Sheriff Ben Johnson told My News 13.

huffingtonpost.com

160 Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2015 2:36:56pm

re: #130 Justanotherhuman

And thank you for this, John Lewis:

Rep. John Lewis, at Selma celebration: ‘We are one people, one family, the human family and we all live in the same house.’
end of alert

Now thinking of this, my favourite scene from Babylon 5.

…

161 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 2:37:35pm

re: #15 BigPapa

They should rename it to the John Lewis Memorial Bridge.

Definitely.

162 bratwurst  Mar 7, 2015 2:37:51pm
163 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 2:38:08pm

re: #158 psddluva4evah

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Well said, Mr. President.

164 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 2:39:29pm

To me there aren’t many people in politics who are what I’d call heroes. I make an exception for John Lewis. He really is a true inspiration and I wish that Georgia was more sane politically so he could have been more than just a Congressman.

165 Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2015 2:42:18pm

re: #153 Tigger2

“market-oriented” alternative”

Isn’t that pretty much what we had and it didn’t work.

Now, don’t confuse the poor bastards with facts, bless their hearts.

166 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 2:43:38pm

re: #159 BeachDem

A SWAT team for a marijuana bust? A fucking SWAT team?
An unarmed man, shot in the face, dead.
And the now standard police statement:

“They were met with resistance and a shooting incurred,” Volusia County Sheriff Ben Johnson told My News 13.

huffingtonpost.com

Yeah goddamn it.

167 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 2:45:28pm

re: #142 psddluva4evah

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Try an accurate historical statement, Jeff but we all know where you were and where you continue to stand on Civil Rights, Mr. I have a name and general demeanor that belongs straight out of a Jim Crow era senator.

168 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2015 2:46:16pm

MrBWS managed to make it home a few hours ago (he had to leave his pickup truck down the road a ways and wade through snow the last few hundreds of yards) but he said it was worth it to be able to watch John Lewis and President Obama speak.

Many tissues were utilized.

169 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 2:46:25pm

I’m back from another day of paralegal training and I have to tell you folks the more I learn about the law and how law works, the more this idea of a dead Constitution as advocated by Scalia, Thomas, and others bothers me.

170 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 2:48:25pm

This is what suspicion, hate, death threats and smearing a person can do.

Famous dolphin trainer found dead in Spain

wsbtv.com

Why can’t people tone this kind of shit down a bit? They think they’re cop, judge and jury? Don’t they have anything else to do? In an age where anything can be altered to “prove” something awful against someone, there seems to be too much of it going on.

171 #FergusonFireside  Mar 7, 2015 2:48:40pm

re: #169 HappyWarrior

I’m back from another day of paralegal training and I have to tell you folks the more I learn about the law and how law works, the more this idea of a dead Constitution as advocated by Scalia, Thomas, and others bothers me.

Did you get the job??????

172 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 2:49:06pm

re: #171 #FergusonFireside

Did you get the job??????

Haven’t heard yet but thanks for asking.

173 missliberties  Mar 7, 2015 2:49:11pm

re: #79 BeachDem

Bringing it. So proud of this President.

I can’t imagine any other political candidate for President or as President will be able to fill Obama’s shoes. He has been a once in a lifetime gift to this country. Just my opinion.

174 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 2:49:12pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

You have a treasure there. : )

175 #FergusonFireside  Mar 7, 2015 2:49:48pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

Totally sending good wishes. If you are learning paralegal, you are on the right path!!

176 Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2015 2:49:58pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

Haven’t heard yet but thanks for asking.

Good luck.

177 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 2:50:53pm

My day started out a bit different, to end with the President’s Selma speech does me good.

This morniing, I went toa local place to get my brake tag (NOLA slang for inspection sticker) for my car.. All I had to do was sit through a semi-rant over how Obama is soon to bankrupt the country cause of his spending (forget about all the spending before him ya know) and how Obama is letting people come in and get passports for free so that they can get health insurance, so they can vote and so they can go home to Mexico to get social security checks mailed to Mexico! Glad I don’t need another for 2 years, and even then, I’ll be somewhere else…geez

178 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 2:52:59pm

re: #175 #FergusonFireside

Totally sending good wishes. If you are learning paralegal, you are on the right path!!

re: #176 Romantic Heretic

Good luck.

Thanks guys. IT was honestly probably one of the most enjoyable interviews I had since the guy interviewing me and bear in mind he’s obviously never met said that he could tell my skillset would be a great asset for Human Rights investigations. Just sounded like a match made in heaven and he was so thrilled that i am doing the course. I don’t want to be an attorney but paralegal work sounds like it would be a great usage of my skillset and in a bureau like that, it would be perfect for me.

179 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 2:53:06pm

re: #177 psddluva4evah

I would have had the urge to say, STFU!

180 Tigger2  Mar 7, 2015 2:53:49pm

re: #177 psddluva4evah

My day started out a bit different, to end with the President’s Selma speech does me good.

This morniing, I went toa local place to get my brake tag (NOLA slang for inspection sticker) for my car.. All I had to do was sit through a semi-rant over how Obama is soon to bankrupt the country cause of his spending (forget about all the spending before him ya know) and how Obama is letting people come in and get passports for free so that they can get health insurance, so they can vote and so they can go home to Mexico to get social security checks mailed to Mexico! Glad I don’t need another for 2 years, and even then, I’ll be somewhere else…geez

Glad we don’t have to do that in Indiana. We used to years ago but they did away with it.

181 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 2:54:26pm

re: #179 Justanotherhuman

oh, I wanted to, but my current temp tags expired tomorrow, and he didn’t start his rant until he was writing up my sticker, so I just wanted to get the sticker and go…smh

182 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 2:56:27pm

This was allegedly set up by Tony’s family.

gofundme.com

No idea how to confirm this, but Michael Johnson linked to this.

183 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 2:57:00pm

re: #182 Nyet

This was allegedly set up by Tony’s family.

gofundme.com

No idea how to confirm this, but Michael Johnson linked to this.

facebook.com

184 #FergusonFireside  Mar 7, 2015 2:59:12pm

Fuck. I read the comments.

185 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 3:00:07pm

re: #181 psddluva4evah

Someone who worked there? Same thing happened at a small tire store here when the guy behind the counter started ranting and raving about that N!clang in the WH and I let him have it. Of course, there are other places to go to and while it’s a convenient spot, I’d drive further if I have to just to avoid them and not give them one red cent.

Was this guy just a mechanic/inspector, or a govt emp? If the latter, I’d report him. : ) Otherwise, not worth your time.

186 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 3:00:25pm

re: #184 #FergusonFireside

Fuck. I read the comments.

Never read the comments.

187 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:01:09pm

re: #184 #FergusonFireside

Fuck. I read the comments.

I can’t read the comments on many stories. I used to think ti was just the anonymity of the internet but many websites have facebook as a means of commenting on stories and there people are using their real names and with their real faces saying some of the most racist shit you’d read.

188 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 3:01:15pm

re: #185 Justanotherhuman

there is only one old guy on Saturday I believe he’s the owner. Maybe during the week there are others. It’s a car wash/tag place.

He’s not a gov’t employee though. Tag stations are like notaries. They get license to issue them and test vehicles from the state, but are not employees

189 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 3:01:48pm
190 #FergusonFireside  Mar 7, 2015 3:03:25pm

re: #186 Nyet

Never read the comments.

I know I know I know I know I know

191 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:03:42pm

re: #189 Nyet

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Can’t wait to “read” how he was a no good thug who needed to die. Sigh poor kid. Whole life ahead of him.

192 BeachDem  Mar 7, 2015 3:04:46pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Thanks guys. IT was honestly probably one of the most enjoyable interviews I had since the guy interviewing me and bear in mind he’s obviously never met said that he could tell my skillset would be a great asset for Human Rights investigations. Just sounded like a match made in heaven and he was so thrilled that i am doing the course. I don’t want to be an attorney but paralegal work sounds like it would be a great usage of my skillset and in a bureau like that, it would be perfect for me.

Let me add my congrats and good thoughts. From reading and conversing with you here, I would say you would be an asset for Human Rights investigations and just about anything else.

193 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 3:05:17pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

Can’t wait to “read” how he was a no good thug who needed to die. Sigh poor kid. Whole life ahead of him.

Have you read my comment above? Already happening. Even though they got the wrong guy.

194 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:05:39pm

re: #192 BeachDem

Let me add my congrats and good thoughts. From reading and conversing with you here, I would say you would be an asset for Human Rights investigations and just about anything else.

Thanks appreciated. .

195 #FergusonFireside  Mar 7, 2015 3:05:50pm
196 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:06:26pm

re: #193 Nyet

Have you read my comment above? Already happening. Even though they got the wrong guy.

Agh go figure. Sucks. I feel for his friends and family.

197 #FergusonFireside  Mar 7, 2015 3:07:16pm

And with that I must shower and prepare to fulfill my food slinging shift.

198 Tigger2  Mar 7, 2015 3:07:43pm

I just wonder how many of the Teabaggers leaving comments about his police record have police records of their own.

199 b_sharp  Mar 7, 2015 3:07:43pm

Updog.

200 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 3:08:28pm

re: #199 b_sharp

Updog.

Godpu.

201 b_sharp  Mar 7, 2015 3:09:36pm

re: #200 Nyet

Godpu.

Smelly.

202 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:10:13pm

re: #198 Tigger2

I just wonder how many of the Teabaggers leaving comments about his police record have police records of their own.

Probably. it’s the mindset that brought us the actual guns being pointed at federal agents at the Bundy Ranch that characterized the unarmed protesters in Ferguson as thugs who deserved violent reprisals. I honestly don’t care if the kid had a police record or not. He’s dead. You don’t deserve to die unarmed at the hands of a cop and I would say that about even the most vicious serial killer. I swear some people in this country don’t know what the fuck justice is.

203 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 7, 2015 3:12:08pm
204 Drive By Commenter  Mar 7, 2015 3:22:45pm

re: #162 bratwurst

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That’s going to leave a mark.

205 Drive By Commenter  Mar 7, 2015 3:23:34pm

re: #195 #FergusonFireside

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Who can eat just one?

206 Jenner7  Mar 7, 2015 3:26:03pm

Wow, thank you Mr. President. What a powerful speech.

”..loving this country requires more than singing its praises or avoiding uncomfortable truths. It requires the occasional disruption, the willingness to speak out for what’s right and shake up the status quo.”

“That’s what America is. Not stock photos or airbrushed history or feeble attempts to define some of us as more American as others. We respect the past, but we don’t pine for it. We don’t fear the future; we grab for it.”

207 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:28:33pm

re: #206 Jenner7

Wow, thank you Mr. President. What a powerful speech.

”..loving this country requires more than singing its praises or avoiding uncomfortable truths. It requires the occasional disruption, the willingness to speak out for what’s right and shake up the status quo.”

“That’s what America is. Not stock photos or airbrushed history or feeble attempts to define some of us as more American as others. We respect the past, but we don’t pine for it. We don’t fear the future; we grab for it.”

I see that as a direct nudge at the Giulianis of this country who think all patriotism is a flag lapel and lip-service. And he’s right. What makes our country great is challenging the status quo. Hell it’s the whole basis of our founding. We challenged one of the biggest empires the world has ever seen and one that it was boasted that the never set on and won and yes with help from Spain, France, and others.

208 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 3:33:56pm
209 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 7, 2015 3:34:15pm

re: #122 psddluva4evah

Dat image! Thanks!

210 Belafon  Mar 7, 2015 3:35:06pm

re: #208 Nyet

How long before cries that they cut Bush out of the picture?

211 Kragar  Mar 7, 2015 3:35:08pm
212 #FergusonFireside  Mar 7, 2015 3:35:43pm
213 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 3:35:59pm

re: #210 Belafon

How long before cries that they cut Bush out of the picture?

There was Bush there?

Anyway, I see Sharpton did everything possible to be in the photo. //

214 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 7, 2015 3:37:29pm

Who’s the woman in the wheelchair? Just curious.

215 Kragar  Mar 7, 2015 3:37:29pm
216 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:37:52pm

re: #208 Nyet

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Man Sasha(I think that’s the younger daughter) is getting so tall. Beautiful girls just like their mom.

217 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:38:32pm

re: #214 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Who’s the woman in the wheelchair? Just curious.

Speculating but I think that could be the woman Oprah played in the movie. I know she’s still living but I don’t know her on sight.

218 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:39:16pm

re: #215 Kragar

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More like let us give you a misrepresentation of reality and present as the truth.

219 Drive By Commenter  Mar 7, 2015 3:39:32pm

re: #215 Kragar

He has a marvelous resume. Deny science……..Now truth. Brilliant. Pond scum.

220 Belafon  Mar 7, 2015 3:39:54pm

re: #213 Nyet

If you look at this photo, Bush is on the right. It’s mentioned in the last paragraph here.

221 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 7, 2015 3:40:02pm

re: #217 HappyWarrior

Speculating but I think that could be the woman Oprah played in the movie. I know she’s still living but I don’t know her on sight.

IDK either, but she’s obv. important. Obama held her hand.

222 b_sharp  Mar 7, 2015 3:40:11pm

re: #215 Kragar

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It will cut into his pocket book.

223 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:40:23pm

Deny, deny, deny! If I want to believe the president is a space alien from the planet Hitler out to convert my family to Gay Shariah Communism, I can believe it!

224 stpaulbear  Mar 7, 2015 3:41:26pm

Was there a point in the middle of Obama’s speech where a protest was trying to disrupt it? There’s the sound of a bunch of female voices chanting with a bass drum pounding away like crazy. Obama completely ignores it but it’s pretty obnoxious.

225 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:41:38pm

I like to think I would have had the courage to go South as a young man had I been around in the 60’s but truthfully I don’t know. The stories about the Southern police forces in those days reads more like something out of a totalitarian dictatorship than it does something that would happen in our country but sure enough it did.

226 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 3:41:47pm

re: #219 nines09

That doesn’t seem like a wise idea by Google. Truth-deciding algorithms? Yeah, sure.

227 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 3:42:36pm

re: #220 Belafon

OK, I have lots to say about Bush, but at least he was there.

228 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:44:11pm

re: #220 Belafon

If you look at this photo, Bush is on the right. It’s mentioned in the last paragraph here.

You know what’s sad is Bush is downright progressive compared to nearly every prominent Republican in office today and if he ran for president, he’d definitely be seen as too liberal since after all GWB doesn’t see Muslims as being worthy of scapegoat and blanket bigotry. I have a lot of faults with the man as both a man and president but it’s just pathetic how the GOP has gotten since he left. You actually saw the roots before the 2006 midterms when the knuckledraggers flipped out over Bush being moderate on immigration reform, another issue that sets him apart.

229 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:44:54pm

re: #227 Nyet

OK, I have lots to say about Bush, but at least he was there.

The man isn’t a racial bigot, I will say that about him. He seems to be a rare Republican that actually understands the American dream.

231 Drive By Commenter  Mar 7, 2015 3:46:10pm

re: #226 Nyet

That doesn’t seem like a wise idea by Google. Truth-deciding algorithms? Yeah, sure.

But he has an illustrious resume. Him be geenus.

232 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:46:27pm

re: #230 Nyet

Tens of thousands in Tel Aviv demand Netanyahu’s ouster

Can’t wait to hear how these people are all like Hitler from Benny S or Pam G.

233 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 3:46:46pm

I also demand an oyster!

234 BeachDem  Mar 7, 2015 3:46:50pm

In honor of John Lewis, I’m going to rewatch “Freedom Riders” and “Freedom Summer” tonight.

pbs.org

pbs.org

(all of Freedom Riders is on PBS; both on Amazon Prime)

See you all later.

235 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 3:47:41pm

re: #232 HappyWarrior

Can’t wait to hear how these people are all like Hitler from Benny S or Pam G.

Didn’t you hear about Pam’s new ad campaign “Against the Jewish Destruction of Israel”? (And if you think I’m joking, think again ;)

236 HappyWarrior  Mar 7, 2015 3:48:41pm

re: #235 Nyet

Didn’t you hear about Pam’s new ad campaign “Against the Jewish Destruction of Israel”? (And if you think I’m joking, think again ;)

No, on both counts, no desire and I believe every word you say since she considers Jews who don’t share her views on Israel to be “kapos.”

237 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 3:49:11pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

And Jewicidal Jihadis.

238 #FergusonFireside  Mar 7, 2015 3:50:31pm

See ya’ll later.

239 Belafon  Mar 7, 2015 3:53:27pm

re: #226 Nyet

That doesn’t seem like a wise idea by Google. Truth-deciding algorithms? Yeah, sure.

Not everything has a “truth” but for those things that do, like climate change, it wouldn’t be that hard for an algorithm to determine it. Take a page that claims to deny global warming. The pages that go along with the junk will tend to point towards known junk sites, while those that link to it debunking it will fall from paths that generally tie to some kind of scientific site. If you start from a few known scientific and junk sites, you can find those that are considered more accurate, which is not saying the same thing as truth.

240 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 3:54:54pm

OK, so apparently the alleged killers weren’t from Chechnya but rather from Ingushetia. Dadayev, however, did serve in the Chechen battalion “Sever”.

meduza.io

Dadayev’s mother of course doesn’t believe the accusations. The Kubashevs that were arrested with Dadayev are apparently her nephews, so those are all relatives.

The mother says that Dadayev was fighting against Wahhabis for 10 years.

Which, again, would tend to point away from “Ichkerian terrorists” or “ISIS agents” hypotheses that some pro-govt individuals have posited.

241 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 3:55:02pm

re: #214 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Amelia Boynton

en.wikipedia.org

242 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 3:56:32pm

re: #239 Belafon

First of all, how would Google determine that it’s the science sites that are truthful in the first place?

Second, the sites that debunk the deniers will suffer with such an approach, because they link to deniers.

I think this is all bullshit.

243 CuriousLurker  Mar 7, 2015 3:56:47pm

re: #213 Nyet

There was Bush there?

Anyway, I see Sharpton did everything possible to be in the photo. //

I specifically went looking for photos with the Bushes a little while ago. These are the best ones I found:

The Bushes listening to speeches
The Bushes crossing the bridge with POTUS & FLOTUS
The Bushes & Obamas
Bush with the Obamas (Laura Bush got cropped out of this one)
The Bushes, the Obamas, and Lewis (Look at that grin!)
Obama, Lewis, Lewis and Bush (One of my favs.)

244 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 4:00:22pm

re: #241 psddluva4evah

Amelia Boynton

en.wikipedia.org

Wow, she’s 103. But in 1984 she became affiliated w/Larouche at the Schiller Institute.

245 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 4:00:29pm

re: #243 CuriousLurker

OK, this is perhaps the only time when I don’t mentally cringe while seeing him. half-/

246 CuriousLurker  Mar 7, 2015 4:01:20pm

re: #243 CuriousLurker

Oh, and this. It’s from last month (not from Selma), but he looked so handsome and dapper that I couldn’t resist, heh.

247 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 4:03:10pm

re: #246 CuriousLurker

Oh, and this. It’s from last month (not from Selma), but he looked so handsome and dapper that I couldn’t resist, heh.

He certainly is eye candy, isn’t he? : ) In more ways than one, of course.

And the Rs hate him for it.

248 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 4:04:18pm

Anyone who thinks GWB was running things didn’t pay attention to Cheney.

249 Belafon  Mar 7, 2015 4:04:45pm

re: #242 Nyet

First of all, how would Google determine that it’s the science sites that are truthful in the first place?

Second, the sites the debunk the deniers will suffer with such an approach, because they link to deniers.

I think this is all bullshit.

Google has spent over a decade analyzing text on web pages for searches (that’s in part how they refine them), and advances in natural language processing do a pretty good job of determining the theme for a page.

And also, remember, we’re talking about improving searches as compared to Google’s current search.

As to your first question, if a page came from science.com or nih.gov, would you give it the benefit of the doubt or not?

250 CuriousLurker  Mar 7, 2015 4:05:13pm

re: #246 CuriousLurker

The Obama girls too. What an experience for them.

And, OMG how much they’ve grown up! They’re not really girls any more, they’re young ladies now.

251 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 4:05:15pm

re: #244 Justanotherhuman

Wow, she’s 103. But in 1984 she became affiliated w/Larouche at the Schiller Institute.

Oooof. Larouchies are of course famous for their Obama-as-Hitler posters. Sorry, I don’t grok this lady.

252 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 4:06:24pm

re: #244 Justanotherhuman

oh and she wasn’t played by Oprah in Selma, I believe she was played by Lorraine Toussaint in Selma. Oprah played another female icon.

Miss Boynton was assaulted and injured on Bloody Sunday along with John Lewis.

253 psddluva4evah  Mar 7, 2015 4:08:41pm

re: #251 Nyet

alot of Civil Right’s icons and pioneers have gone on to do somethings we wouldn’t appreciate but for reasons from a different time.

Still, doesn’t negate their icon status.

Amelia Boynton is EPIC!

254 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 4:10:22pm

What is it with Britons and high buildings?

Man trespassing on roof of London’s House of Commons; man has been on roof for at least 90 minutes, police confirm - @itvnews

vine.co

255 Jenner7  Mar 7, 2015 4:11:07pm

Forgive me if this has been discussed before. There are those on TV saying the report claims there was no evidence that Mike Brown had his hands up AND that there WAS evidence he charged Wilson.

I find both of those things hard to believe. The way they collected evidence was shitty, the way the let Wilson roam around is suspicious, the way they left his body to rot for 4.5 hours, etc, etc. So, I briefly looked it up and this just pisses me off to no end:

“Nor could investigators find credible witnesses and evidence to back up claims that Brown was shot as he tried to surrender and had raised his hands — a contention that inspired protesters’ slogan, “Hands up, don’t shoot!”“

latimes.com

Really? Not one credible witness?? I just don’t believe it. Not one bit.

Then, this from same article:

“The decision not to prosecute Wilson had been expected. Officials in recent weeks said the case did not meet the higher standards required for a federal civil rights prosecution.”

This has to change. They just confirmed what we already know of the Ferguson PD, but we can’t possibly believe that Mike Brown was targeted merely for the color of his skin and subsequently murdered????

I know, I’m late to the game, but I’m angry. The Right will and has used this to invalidate what the protesters are fighting for. I’ll tell you what I know for sure. Even if he didn’t have his hands up, they would have still been out there protesting. They knew what was going on and for how long. Mike Brown was the tipping point.

Sorry for the rambling….

256 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 4:12:27pm

re: #251 Nyet

re: #252 psddluva4evah

I respect her for that.

257 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 4:14:32pm
258 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 4:14:35pm

Schiller Int. headlines:

“Who’s Who Behind Obama’s Hitler Health ‘Reform’ Plan.”
Obama Rushes Ahead with Hitler-Style Enabling Act
Congress Ratifies Obama’s Hitler Coup

259 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2015 4:16:29pm

re: #258 Nyet

Schiller Int. headlines:

“Who’s Who Behind Obama’s Hitler Health ‘Reform’ Plan.”
Obama Rushes Ahead with Hitler-Style Enabling Act
Congress Ratifies Obama’s Hitler Coup

Who the hell are they? The Hitler Channel? Whatever happened to a sense of proportion?

260 TedStriker  Mar 7, 2015 4:16:56pm

re: #255 Jenner7

Forgive me if this has been discussed before. There are those on TV saying the report claims there was no evidence that Mike Brown had his hands up AND that there WAS evidence he charged Wilson.

I find both of those things hard to believe. The way they collected evidence was shitty, the way the let Wilson roam around is suspicious, the way they left his body to rot for 4.5 hours, etc, etc. So, I briefly looked it up and this just pisses me off to no end:

“Nor could investigators find credible witnesses and evidence to back up claims that Brown was shot as he tried to surrender and had raised his hands — a contention that inspired protesters’ slogan, “Hands up, don’t shoot!”“

latimes.com

Really? Not one credible witness?? I just don’t believe it. Not one bit.

Then, this from same article:

“The decision not to prosecute Wilson had been expected. Officials in recent weeks said the case did not meet the higher standards required for a federal civil rights prosecution.”

This has to change. They just confirmed what we already know of the Ferguson PD, but we can’t possibly believe that Mike Brown was targeted merely for the color of his skin and subsequently murdered????

I know, I’m late to the game, but I’m angry. The Right will and has used this to invalidate what the protesters are fighting for. I’ll tell you what I know for sure. Even if he didn’t have his hands up, they would have still been out there protesting. They knew what was going on and for how long. Mike Brown was the tipping point.

Sorry for the rambling….

History, as always, is written by the victors…even if this victory is a Pyrrhic one for Wilson and his fellow shitheads in blue.

261 CuriousLurker  Mar 7, 2015 4:20:24pm

re: #240 Nyet

I saw this political cartoon the other day and thought of you.

262 Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2015 4:23:02pm

re: #258 Nyet

Schiller Int. headlines:

“Who’s Who Behind Obama’s Hitler Health ‘Reform’ Plan.”
Obama Rushes Ahead with Hitler-Style Enabling Act
Congress Ratifies Obama’s Hitler Coup

They’re nuts. Everyone knows middle C is 261 hertz.

(Very many of the people I like are nuts in one way or another.)

263 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 4:23:13pm

Amelia Robinson (as she’s called at the Schiller Institute where she’s VP) in Europe in 2007.

schillerinstitute.org

Sad.

264 ObserverArt  Mar 7, 2015 4:28:12pm

re: #250 CuriousLurker

The Obama girls too. What an experience for them.

And, OMG how much they’ve grown up! They’re not really girls any more, they’re young ladies now.

The youngest one has gotten way taller in the last year or so. Now they are both quite tall. Mom and dad should be proud.

265 Nyet  Mar 7, 2015 4:29:15pm

re: #255 Jenner7

There was evidence, it just turned out to be not credible. Reading the Brown report was a sobering experience. But facts are facts.

266 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 4:31:46pm

re: #264 ObserverArt

And Sasha’s only 13 (14 in June) but they have the genes, lucky girls.

267 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2015 4:33:09pm

I may be castigatged for saying this, but I find myself sometimes wishing that Michael Brown had not become the “poster child” for the death of an unarmed young black man at the hands of a racist system. He was no angel, he may have been guilty of petty theft and may have made severely bad choices immediately prior to his death.

He did not deserve to die for it. The racism that led Darren Wilson to empty his service pistol into him is not the simple racism of the lynching and the crossburning. It’s the racism of seeing all young black men as a potential menace.

The problem I see is that the Michael Brown case became the stand-in for ALL shootings of unarmed black men, and because the case isn’t clean or simple, because the evidence is open to interpretation, it hurts all cases in the public eye.

There is racism in society that makes these things happen, that leads to police overreacting to their fear of violence from young black men. This is obvious to anyone who looks. But the murky nature of the Brown/Wilson case allows the White Right to dismiss all of these cases, and I’m afraid that most of society can only pay attention for so long, can only hear ‘unarmed black teen killed by cops’ so many times before it stops making an impression.

268 Belafon  Mar 7, 2015 4:34:26pm

re: #267 Blind Frog Belly White

He was no angel, he may have been guilty of petty theft and may have made severely bad choices immediately prior to his death.

If your skin had been black, would you have been the angel you’re looking for?

269 Justanotherhuman  Mar 7, 2015 4:39:05pm

re: #267 Blind Frog Belly White

And just how many white kids have been killed for shoplifting and “dissing” the cops? I’ve seen, in the past, videos and photos of whites trying to kick windows out of patrol cars, trying to grab weapons, etc. and they were not shot.

For too many cops, Black skin is an excuse to dismiss them as human beings who should be treated with the same care and caution they would treat anyone else.

270 vgranucci  Mar 7, 2015 4:42:19pm

re: #15 BigPapa

Well they probably should wait until after Rep. Lewis’ passing before renaming it the John Lewis Memorial Bridge

271 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2015 4:43:43pm

re: #268 Belafon

If your skin had been black, would you have been the angel you’re looking for?

I’m not looking for an angel, and I hope I didn’t convey that impression. My point is that things like the robbery at the convenience store are so easily made into an excuse.

It just seems like so much was pinned on this one case, and it was not simple enough to finally get most of America to understand what’s going on. Look it’s possible NO young black man is suburban, milquetoast, captain-of-the-varsity-team, spotless-record ENOUGH that when he’s gunned down by a cop who gets scared by his size and blackness. I thought theTrayvon Martin case was open-and shut, but even a kid walking home with skittles and iced tea, gunned down by a vigilante, Dirty Harry wannabe got twisted.

I find it profoundly depressing. I can’t imagine how it would feel if I weren’t white, if I had to face this more directly, if my sons were young black men.

272 CuriousLurker  Mar 7, 2015 4:45:39pm

re: #264 ObserverArt

The youngest one has gotten way taller in the last year or so. Now they are both quite tall. Mom and dad should be proud.

Yep, she shot up like a weed all of a sudden!

273 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 7, 2015 4:50:28pm

re: #269 Justanotherhuman

And just how many white kids have been killed for shoplifting and “dissing” the cops? I’ve seen, in the past, videos and photos of whites trying to kick windows out of patrol cars, trying to grab weapons, etc. and they were not shot.

For too many cops, Black skin is an excuse to dismiss them as human beings who should be treated with the same care and caution they would treat anyone else.

Exactly.

Put it another way - I was also no angel, and I had friends growing up who were even worse. Not one of us ever worried, or had reason to worry, that we’d end up on the receiving end of a fusillade of bullets. But, dammit, it seems like every goddam WEEK there’s ANOTHER young black man who DOES end up there for no reason apart from the color of his skin. How do you get the mass of people who have short attention spans to SEE THIS?

274 Surabaya Stew  Mar 7, 2015 5:50:19pm

re: #273 Blind Frog Belly White

re: #273 Blind Frog Belly White

Exactly.

Put it another way - I was also no angel, and I had friends growing up who were even worse. Not one of us ever worried, or had reason to worry, that we’d end up on the receiving end of a fusillade of bullets. But, dammit, it seems like every goddam WEEK there’s ANOTHER young black man who DOES end up there for no reason apart from the color of his skin. How do you get the mass of people who have short attention spans to SEE THIS?

Well, for the past 200+ years, every week in the USA there has been at least 1 young black man shot, lynched, or murdered by authority figures or vigilantes due to the color of their skin. This isn’t something new at all. Nowhere near enough has changed, frankly.

It’s just now that a sizable portion of white folks (myself included) are awake to the facts, thats why it is so distressing to hear these stories of police brutality, excessive use of deadly force; they are at odds with our own narrative.

I really liked what the President had to say today about this very thing, but I’d like it even more with just 1 change:

“…loving this country requires more than singing its praises or avoiding uncomfortable truths. It requires the occasional disruption, the willingness to speak out for what’s right and shake up the status quo.”

We need more than “occasional” disruption to has a handle on what ails this nation.


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