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1 austin_blue  Mar 9, 2015 5:56:07pm

I’m stage right, three rows back. Hell of a show.

2 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 6:10:04pm
3 Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2015 6:13:02pm

Meanwhile, tech news site Gigaom is going under: gigaom.com

4 Nyet  Mar 9, 2015 6:15:37pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Such is my luck: the first time ever I hear about the site, and it already goes under. ///

5 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 9, 2015 6:16:39pm

Love the Foo Fighters. I wish Kurt could have gotten the help he needed but I really love this band much more. Great stuff from them.

6 goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2015 6:16:56pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, tech news site Gigaom is going under: gigaom.com

LOL.

We can’t pay our creditors, mind if we send you Push Notifications?

7 Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2015 6:19:12pm

If you haven’t seen last night’s episode of The Walking Dead, this is kinda sorta a spoiler, so don’t watch if you DVR’ed it for later. But this scene was just awesome. This is why I love this show.

Carol tells little Sam a bedtime story he probably isn’t going to forget.

…

8 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 9, 2015 6:20:22pm
9 austin_blue  Mar 9, 2015 6:23:22pm

re: #8 The Mother Of All Pies

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Good. The little butt-breaths went beyond the pale.

10 HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2015 6:26:12pm

re: #2 Kragar

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He’s really stupid if he wants to play this game.

11 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 6:28:23pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

I remember in season 1 when she was the timid battered wife you felt sorry for.

12 FemNaziBitch  Mar 9, 2015 6:28:51pm

SQUEEEE!!!!

13 Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2015 6:29:58pm

re: #11 Kragar

I remember in season 1 when she was the timid battered wife you felt sorry for.

Now she’s the baddest of bad asses. Nobody fucks with Carol.

14 goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2015 6:35:15pm

He seems nice.

15 thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2015 6:36:16pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

What in the name of all that is holy is that thing.

16 Drive By Commenter  Mar 9, 2015 6:37:23pm

re: #8 The Mother Of All Pies

“Today our lesson will focus on words and the usage and effect of words. Particularly in the manner of how the words falling from your lips do have consequences. And we have a few large Greek letters for sale. Colored gold. See Sid the janitor about that.”

17 lawhawk  Mar 9, 2015 6:38:50pm

re: #1 austin_blue

Just caught NIN at ACL on PBS last night. She really digged his stripped down take on Hesitation Marks, given that she’s heard only the studio version and liked the funk vibe and the background singers.

It just made me want to go see him on tour next time he goes out.

18 Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2015 6:41:44pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

He seems nice.

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On the other hand, the Alabama guy who went viral with the “No gays on my junkpile” shtick is nice. Here’s his post for Butthurt Awareness Week:

‪“ButtHurtAwareness2015‬ Well my research team and I did some testing today on how to protect one’s self from butt hurt. We wrapped a towel around my head and I couldn’t see anything. We placed the towel over the screen and I couldn’t see the screen. So we turned off the interwebs and I opened a word document and wrote all the stuff I wanted to share with myself and I gave it a thumbs up. I looked through all my pictures and liked all of them and commented on them. This seemed to work well except Jeremy space only had one user and Jeremy net only had my information. So bravely I logged back on to the interwebs and I saw that there were other people on there that didn’t live life just like me…..I felt the butt hurt level creeping up.. I was scared then I remembered that I am a 39 year old man from Alabama and butt hurt was part of life. The Internet has opened up the entire world to us. We are going to see things we don’t like. Every day I try to use comedy,sarcasm and common sense to illustrate that the universe is a big damn place and there is enough room for your opinion and mine. But if we Shut the world out we become Mississippi. By the way if you hang around long enough I will offend you too; unless you’re a scientology follower Tom Cruise is scary.”

facebook.com

19 goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2015 6:43:22pm

re: #15 thedopefishlives

What in the name of all that is holy is that thing.

A huge fan of the n-word apparently. Advanced Twitter Search - NSFW.

20 #FergusonFireside  Mar 9, 2015 6:43:30pm

JAWS on AMC. I’m getting ready to re-watch The Walking Dead, but JAWS.

21 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2015 6:44:01pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

Looking at his TL, this is a guy who can’t even get a date with a first cousin.

22 wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2015 6:44:32pm

Hensley: Kobach ‘the most racist politician in America today’

23 goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2015 6:44:55pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Also, Chuck follows him, because of course he does.

smdh.

24 Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2015 6:46:18pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

Hensley: Kobach ‘the most racist politician in America today’

Let’s not award the trophy until all the entries are in.

25 wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2015 6:46:33pm
26 goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2015 6:46:52pm

Added to the list of rank anti semites that CCJ chooses to follow.

27 #FergusonFireside  Mar 9, 2015 6:47:18pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

If you haven’t seen last night’s episode of The Walking Dead, this is kinda sorta a spoiler, so don’t watch if you DVR’ed it for later. But this scene was just awesome. This is why I love this show.

Carol tells little Sam a bedtime story he probably isn’t going to forget.

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Video

Oh hell yeah.

28 wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2015 6:47:44pm

re: #24 Decatur Deb

Let’s not award the trophy until all the entries are in.

Competition is certainly stiff.

29 CuriousLurker  Mar 9, 2015 6:48:05pm

Some totally not scary Muslim guys, LOL:

30 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2015 6:49:45pm

me, now…laterz!

31 wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2015 6:50:39pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

me, now…laterz!

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Shiftless?

32 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2015 6:51:02pm

re: #31 wrenchwench

Shiftless?

only way to be…

:D

33 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 9, 2015 6:51:11pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

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Added to the list of rank anti semites that CCJ chooses to follow.

HURR HURR IT SATIRE!!!!! U HAVE NO CENTS OF HUMER LIBTARD

34 Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2015 6:51:49pm

re: #31 wrenchwench

Shiftless?

Shift-faced.

35 BlueSpotinAL  Mar 9, 2015 6:54:25pm

re: #24 Decatur Deb

Let’s not award the trophy until all the entries are in.

Kobach is the one who helped Scott Beason write the model legislation the AL “run off the brown people because the federal government is not doing it fast enough” Beason-Hammon Alabama Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act.

36 austin_blue  Mar 9, 2015 6:55:05pm

re: #17 lawhawk

Just caught NIN at ACL on PBS last night. She really digged his stripped down take on Hesitation Marks, given that she’s heard only the studio version and liked the funk vibe and the background singers.

It just made me want to go see him on tour next time he goes out.

It’s nice to have lived in Austin for over 25 years, when it was a small(er) town where musicians all knew each other. She Who Must Be Obeyed has played with so many people over the years, and the Musician’s Union is so well respected, that getting tickets to ACL is easier for old timers like us than for the Newbies.

After the Foo Fighters show, my ears bled for two days.

37 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 9, 2015 6:55:13pm

ARRGH…. Can’t find my IPod Classic. It would be nice to take some tunes with me, not critical, I can load up the tablet with tunes, but I love my IPod. Oh well, it will show back up, or not. I know it’s in the house, just don’t have a clue as to where I put it.

RBS

38 FemNaziBitch  Mar 9, 2015 6:56:28pm

Talk to me about LifeLock. Does anyone here use it?

39 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 9, 2015 6:58:14pm
40 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 9, 2015 6:58:32pm

re: #38 FemNaziBitch

Talk to me about LifeLock. Does anyone here use it?

No. And don’t they advertise on Rush?

41 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 7:00:09pm

re: #38 FemNaziBitch

Talk to me about LifeLock. Does anyone here use it?

They got busted for deceptive business practices in the past.

42 #FergusonFireside  Mar 9, 2015 7:01:40pm

re: #38 FemNaziBitch

Talk to me about LifeLock. Does anyone here use it?

Scam. You can do better by paying basic attention.

43 thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2015 7:02:31pm

re: #40 The Mother Of All Pies

No. And don’t they advertise on Rush?

They do. And just about anyone who still advertises on Rush is off-limits to sane, rational people.

44 Nyet  Mar 9, 2015 7:05:15pm

Scam for paranoid wingnuts?

Celebrity spokespersons for LifeLock have included Howard Stern, Paul Harvey, Mark Levin, and Rush Limbaugh.[31] LifeLock is also active in many community groups including the National Organization for Victim Assistance (NOVA) and Junior Achievement.[32][33]

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani is a spokesman and was featured in the company’s TV commercials in 2013.

45 Nyet  Mar 9, 2015 7:06:36pm
Also in 2007, Todd Davis publicly posted his Social Security number as part of an ad campaign to promote the company’s identity theft protection services. As a result, Davis was a victim of 13 cases of identity theft between 2007 and 2008.[57][58][59] Regarding the campaign, Davis said, “we were trying to make the point that … all it takes is one data breach. The point of that campaign was to take proactive steps to protect your identity.”[13]

In February 2008, the credit information company Experian sued LifeLock for fraud and false advertising. Experian alleged that LifeLock placed false fraud alerts on behalf of its clients, thus keeping LifeLock clients’ files in a constant state of alert.[60][60][61] As part of a 2009 settlement, LifeLock set up a new proprietary service that does not rely on setting fraud alerts.[62]

In March 2010, LifeLock was fined $12 million by the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) for deceptive advertising.[5] The FTC called their prior marketing claims misleading to consumers by claiming to be a 100% guarantee against all forms of identity theft.[63]

FTC Chairman Jon Leibowitz, referring to the LifeLock TV ad showing the truck, said that “the protection they provided left such a large hole … that you could drive that truck through it.”[57] LifeLock agreed to pay $12 million to settle charges, by the FTC and 35 states, that the company’s identity theft prevention and data security claims were false.[64]

46 Lidane  Mar 9, 2015 7:07:26pm

re: #1 austin_blue

I’m stage right, three rows back. Hell of a show.

And I am insanely jealous. I sign up for every ACL taping that I can. I would’ve loved to see the Foo Fighters.

47 b_sharp  Mar 9, 2015 7:12:54pm

I’m heading for bed. My old bones are bitching loudly tonight.

48 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 9, 2015 7:13:55pm

CLINTON/DUCKWORTH 2016?

49 Amory Blaine  Mar 9, 2015 7:17:04pm

Court rules church can’t shield $60 million in abuse cases

In a blow to the Archdiocese of Milwaukee in its ongoing bankruptcy, a federal appeals court on Monday put a $60 million cemetery trust fund back in play to potentially settle claims related to sexual abuse by priests.

The ruling from the Seventh U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the church cannot use the First Amendment or a 1993 law aimed at protecting religious freedom to shield the funds.

The court also said the judge who put the money off limits, U.S. District Judge Rudolph Randa, should have disclosed the fact his parents and other relatives are buried in a cemetery maintained by the trust fund. The court remanded the case to a different district court judge.

“This is a highly momentous day for clergy sex abuse survivors in the Archdiocese of Milwaukee, who have suffered terribly since they were abused and have continued to suffer greatly as the Archdiocese has gone to great lengths to deny them justice,” said survivors’ attorney Jeff Anderson of St. Paul.

50 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 9, 2015 7:17:47pm

re: #48 The Mother Of All Pies

CLINTON/DUCKWORTH 2016?

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Nah, but I could happily get behind Duckworth/Baldwin 2016.

51 FemNaziBitch  Mar 9, 2015 7:17:51pm

Written by an shareholder.

52 FemNaziBitch  Mar 9, 2015 7:18:28pm

Duckworth is quite formidable.

I admire her quite a bit

53 HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2015 7:19:05pm

re: #48 The Mother Of All Pies

CLINTON/DUCKWORTH 2016?

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I really admire her but I’d want her to get into the Senate first. Perhaps the Dems should seriously consider her against Kirk or if Durbin plans to retire soon.

54 HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2015 7:19:51pm

re: #52 FemNaziBitch

Duckworth is quite formidable.

I admire her quite a bit

Tough lady. I cannot believe that pos Walsh actually said the crap he did about her. She’s got more honor and courage in her small pinky than that scumbag does in his whole body.

55 FemNaziBitch  Mar 9, 2015 7:20:09pm

re: #49 Amory Blaine

Court rules church can’t shield $60 million in abuse cases

I find it incredibly sad that so many women still support the church. After so many revelations that the hierarchy does not care nor will ever care about individual health and happiness on Earth, in this lifetime.

56 HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2015 7:21:53pm

Candidate recruitment is so key.

57 FemNaziBitch  Mar 9, 2015 7:21:56pm

LIfelock wants not only your bank account number, but your id and password to access your accounts.

58 thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2015 7:22:34pm

re: #57 FemNaziBitch

LIfelock wants not only your bank account number, but your id and password to access your accounts.

Not enough NOPE in the world for that. Hell to the naw.

59 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 9, 2015 7:22:44pm

re: #57 FemNaziBitch

LIfelock wants not only your bank account number, but your id and password to access your accounts.

FUCK THEM

60 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 7:23:27pm
61 Lidane  Mar 9, 2015 7:23:48pm

So I’m seeing a bunch of hoo-hah with people mentioning the Logan Act with respect to the GOP Senators and their damn near treasonous letter to Iran.

Could one of the legal folks explain it? I’m wondering if it could be applied to what they did today. I’d love to see 47 Senators get a friendly visit from US Marshals, but I know it’s not realistic.

62 Jenner7  Mar 9, 2015 7:25:00pm

…whoopsy

63 Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2015 7:25:47pm

re: #60 Kragar

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“When we’ve lost the Daily News, we’ve lost the derp.”

64 #FergusonFireside  Mar 9, 2015 7:26:40pm

re: #49 Amory Blainewa

Court rules church can’t shield $60 million in abuse cases

I want to say, dude your state. Then I realize it is everywhere. Only some places getting exposed.

65 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 9, 2015 7:27:15pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

“When we’ve lost the Daily News, we’ve lost the derp.”

That really is interesting. It’s looking more and more like the GOP scored an Own Goal on this move.

66 Lidane  Mar 9, 2015 7:28:24pm

re: #65 William Barnett-Lewis

That really is interesting. It’s looking more and more like the GOP scored an Own Goal on this move.

It’s one thing to criticize POTUS. It’s another to send a near-treasonous letter that openly undermines him.

67 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 9, 2015 7:29:43pm

im going to outflank the baggers and come out against illegal eileens

68 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 9, 2015 7:29:56pm

re: #66 Lidane

It’s one thing to criticize POTUS. It’s another to send a near-treasonous letter that openly undermines him.

Makes you wonder why they thought it was a good idea.

69 Nyet  Mar 9, 2015 7:29:56pm

re: #48 The Mother Of All Pies

CLINTON/DUCKWORTH 2016?

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That’s CLINTON/DR. DUCKWORTH 2016 for you!

70 thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2015 7:30:15pm

re: #67 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

im going to outflank the baggers and come out against illegal eileens

Eileen? Come on.

71 jaunte  Mar 9, 2015 7:30:32pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

Oops, forgot CPAC isn’t the whole world.

72 thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2015 7:31:33pm

re: #68 Blind Frog Belly White

Makes you wonder why they thought it was a good idea.

They’re so blinded by fear of the black president that they figured even starting a war would be better than going along with anything he said.

73 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 9, 2015 7:32:00pm

re: #71 jaunte

Oops, forgot CPAC isn’t the whole world.

Apparently, these rats WILL fuck themselves.

74 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 9, 2015 7:32:53pm

re: #70 thedopefishlives

Eileen? Come on.

when i knew eileen she was very illegal

75 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 7:35:44pm

re: #61 Lidane

While the letter’s signatories are U.S. senators, that does not mean they have the “authority of the United States” as required by the law since when it comes to conducting foreign policy, the executive branch is the United States, taking into consideration the occasional “Advice and Consent of the Senate” as prescribed by the Constitution. However, this letter is neither advice, nor consent. It’s directly addressed to leaders of a foreign government presently involved in talks with the U.S., and it is designed to thwart those talks. Unless the senators were authorized by the president to address Iran’s leaders in this letter, a case can be made that 47 U.S. senators just violated a federal law that carries a prison term of up to three years.

Whether the law was broken or not, the fact remains that once again Republicans have shown themselves not only unfit to govern, but unwilling to govern, because governance sometimes means making agreements that don’t give you everything you want. That the vast majority of GOP senators have so publicly proclaimed their opposition to any deal that could ensure Iran will not pursue nuclear weapons is a travesty of foreign policy, a breach of custom, and possibly a felony.

76 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 9, 2015 7:39:43pm

re: #70 thedopefishlives

Eileen? Come on.

…

77 thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2015 7:40:05pm

re: #76 William Barnett-Lewis

There we go. Somebody gets it.

78 goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2015 7:40:32pm

re: #61 Lidane

So I’m seeing a bunch of hoo-hah with people mentioning the Logan Act with respect to the GOP Senators and their damn near treasonous letter to Iran.

Could one of the legal folks explain it? I’m wondering if it could be applied to what they did today. I’d love to see 47 Senators get a friendly visit from US Marshals, but I know it’s not realistic.

It’s not going to happen. Technically what they did was kind of violation, sorta, maybe, however the Logan Act is Constitutionally iffy at best. Also, even if the Justice Department was of a mind to charge them the Speech and Debate Clause would be invoked, since I’m fairly certain that they had the letter read into the official record of the current session. Logan is the kind of thing you can threaten an idiotic private citizen with to try and dissuade them from a course of action, but no Administration is ever going to try and apply it to 47 sitting Senators.

79 jaunte  Mar 9, 2015 7:40:51pm

re: #77 thedopefishlives

Dexy?

80 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 9, 2015 7:43:01pm

re: #77 thedopefishlives

There we go. Somebody gets it.

…

81 freetoken  Mar 9, 2015 7:44:43pm

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

Inhofe shows up at UNFCCC meetings telling all the leaders/ambassadors that the US Senate is not going to approve any climate change. If he can do that without consequence then I don’t see this latest stunt as coming to any different conclusion.

82 FemNaziBitch  Mar 9, 2015 7:45:18pm

LifeLock addresses FTC complaint; more from CEO Todd Davis

Q: Is this the career you thought you’d had at this point in your life? If not, what did you want to do when you were growing up?

A: I did think I would be running my own company, but did not expect to be this blessed.

83 FemNaziBitch  Mar 9, 2015 7:45:50pm

re: #67 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

im going to outflank the baggers and come out against illegal eileens

What about Irenes?

84 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 7:46:04pm

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

It’s not going to happen. Technically what they did was kind of violation, sorta, maybe, however the Logan Act is Constitutionally iffy at best. Also, even if the Justice Department was of a mind to charge them the Speech and Debate Clause would be invoked, since I’m fairly certain that they had the letter read into the official record of the current session. Logan is the kind of thing you can threaten an idiotic private citizen with to try and dissuade them from a course of action, but no Administration is ever going to try and apply it to 47 sitting Senators.

Will they be charged? No.

Does the fact they won’t be charged mean they did not behave like treasonous shit weasels? No.

85 FemNaziBitch  Mar 9, 2015 7:47:40pm

re: #82 FemNaziBitch

LifeLock addresses FTC complaint; more from CEO Todd Davis

In addition to the new PTA partnership, LifeLock has had a 5-year partnership with the FBI to help train law enforcement officers around the company on identity theft.

86 Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2015 7:47:51pm

re: #84 Kragar

Will they be charged? No.

Does the fact they won’t be charged mean they did not behave like treasonous shit weasels? No.


“I know they’re not pig-fuckers shit-weasels, I just want to hear them deny it.”

87 FemNaziBitch  Mar 9, 2015 7:48:46pm
88 austin_blue  Mar 9, 2015 7:50:23pm

re: #81 freetoken

Inhofe shows up at UNFCCC meetings telling all the leaders/ambassadors that the US Senate is not going to approve any climate change. If he can do that without consequence then I don’t see this latest stunt as coming to any different conclusion.

Then again, it’s helpful that Inhofe is a fucking moron acting alone.

47 Senators is a quorum.

89 Nyet  Mar 9, 2015 7:53:11pm

Pattys4Putin-USA
@PattyDs50
I’m an American and defend Putin and Russia against my aggressive Government. I defend Benjamin Netanyahu from the crazy Muslim in the WH .

NH USA

90 Romantic Heretic  Mar 9, 2015 7:53:31pm

re: #68 Blind Frog Belly White

Makes you wonder why they thought it was a good idea.

Because they hate Obama so they thought this would hurt him and derail his policy.

But like all crackheads they’re not really accomplished at rational thought.

91 #FergusonFireside  Mar 9, 2015 7:54:20pm

re: #57 FemNaziBitch

LIfelock wants not only your bank account number, but your id and password to access your accounts.

UH NO

92 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 9, 2015 7:55:33pm

Pattys4Putin

also illegal pattys

93 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 9, 2015 7:55:34pm

re: #91 #FergusonFireside

UH NO

“Double my IQ or no money back? Sounds like a good deal to me!”

94 Maddies Mom  Mar 9, 2015 7:55:34pm

re: #52 FemNaziBitch

Noooooo! We need her to run against Mark Kirk for senate in ‘16!!!!!!

95 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 9, 2015 7:56:13pm

re: #86 Decatur Deb


“I know they’re not pig-fuckers shit-weasels, I just want to hear them deny it.”

Is it the treasonous part, or the shit weasel part of the denial that will stick in their throat?

RBS

96 Jenner7  Mar 9, 2015 7:56:29pm

re: #89 Nyet

Oh good grief.

97 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 7:57:42pm

re: #89 Nyet

TL full of “Obama is about to be impeached” pipe dreams

98 Kid A  Mar 9, 2015 7:58:05pm
99 Nyet  Mar 9, 2015 7:58:13pm

re: #92 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Pattys4Putin

also illegal pattys

Passionate Patty in Pursuit of Putin’s Pulsating Pectorals

100 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 9, 2015 7:58:41pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

“Double my IQ or no money back? Sounds like a good deal to me!”

Perhaps I can interest you in a tremendous investment opportunity. If you send me all your 401k, Roth IRA, any loose change you have lying around, whatever cash you can get your hands on, I can promise you a 30% return of your investment in just 1 year.

RBS

101 Kid A  Mar 9, 2015 7:58:50pm

Treasonous assholes.

102 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 9, 2015 7:58:55pm

re: #97 Kragar

TL full of “Obama is about to be impeached” pipe dreams

“Any day now! Just wait! It’ll happen, starting right……NOW! Okay, how about ……NOW!”

103 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 9, 2015 8:00:31pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

“Any day now! Just wait! It’ll happen, starting right……NOW! Okay, how about ……NOW!”

They are just waiting for Sheriff Joe and his Cold Case Posse to release their “Universe Shattering Proof”. Should be any day now….

104 calochortus  Mar 9, 2015 8:00:52pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

“Any day now! Just wait! It’ll happen, starting right……NOW! Okay, how about ……NOW!”

Maybe they’ll have time to take care of it in 2017?

105 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 9, 2015 8:01:22pm

re: #100 RealityBasedSteve

Perhaps I can interest you in a tremendous investment opportunity. If you send me all your 401k, Roth IRA, any loose change you have lying around, whatever cash you can get your hands on, I can promise you a 30% return of your investment in just 1 year.

RBS

Screw that. Tell me about GOLD!!!!
///

106 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 9, 2015 8:03:32pm

re: #104 calochortus

Maybe they’ll have time to take care of it in 2017?

Hey… WND is already doing the “What if Obama doesn’t leave the White House after his term is up…. just asking” BS already. If I were him, (and thank all that you hold holy I’m not the President), I pull the driver out of the limo, tell Michelle and the girls “Buckle up tight and hold on!!!”, then leave a burnout the length of the driveway to get out of there.

RBS

107 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 9, 2015 8:03:48pm

re: #103 RealityBasedSteve

They are just waiting for Sheriff Joe and his Cold Case Posse to release their “Universe Shattering Proof”. Should be any day now….

Where’s the Kaboom Proof? There was supposed to be an Earth Universe Shattering Kaboom Proof!!

108 TedStriker  Mar 9, 2015 8:03:59pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

If you haven’t seen last night’s episode of The Walking Dead, this is kinda sorta a spoiler, so don’t watch if you DVR’ed it for later. But this scene was just awesome. This is why I love this show.

Carol tells little Sam a bedtime story he probably isn’t going to forget.

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Video

That’s some hardcore, cold-blooded mindfucking right there.

109 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 9, 2015 8:05:29pm

re: #98 Kid A

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That’s another rat fucker who should have had to spend the rest of his life making big rocks into little rocks at Ft. Leavenworth. Fucking disgrace to everyone who ever wore a US uniform.

110 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 9, 2015 8:05:50pm

re: #106 RealityBasedSteve

Hey… WND is already doing the “What if Obama doesn’t leave the White House after his term is up…. just asking” BS already. If I were him, (and thank all that you hold holy I’m not the President), I pull the driver out of the limo, tell Michelle and the girls “Buckle up tight and hold on!!!”, then leave a burnout the length of the driveway to get out of there.

RBS

And I got just the car for it…

Because he needs four doors
111 psddluva4evah  Mar 9, 2015 8:06:17pm

Welp…VP BIden is PISSED!!

Biden issued a statement on the 47 GOP Senators who wrote the letters to Iran.

112 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 9, 2015 8:07:44pm

re: #89 Nyet

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I am really puzzled by all these right-wing Putinistas. If they had one thing in common before, it was an insane fear of the Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight KGB. Now they can’t get enough ex-KGB Czar.

113 thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2015 8:08:48pm

re: #111 psddluva4evah

I don’t think Mr. Vice President quite understands the situation. They don’t want a diplomatic resolution or any viable alternative. They want to nuke themselves some bitches, to hell with world peace. They think if they fight their holy wars hard enough, White American Jesus will approve when they die.

114 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 9, 2015 8:09:57pm

re: #113 thedopefishlives

I don’t think Mr. Vice President quite understands the situation. They don’t want a diplomatic resolution or any viable alternative. They want to nuke themselves some bitches, to hell with world peace. They think if they fight their holy wars hard enough, White American Jesus will approve when they die.

I think you’re giving them FAR too much credit for thinking ahead.

115 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 9, 2015 8:13:08pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, tech news site Gigaom is going under: gigaom.com

Well that fucking sucks. I knew a couple of the journos there who were prolific (Mathew Ingram being one). I hope they all land safely. IIRC, Om had moved on to other things.

116 goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2015 8:14:16pm
117 Nyet  Mar 9, 2015 8:14:32pm

re: #112 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I am really puzzled by all these right-wing Putinistas. If they had one thing in common before, it was an insane fear of the Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight KGB. Now they’d can’t get enough ex-KGB Czar.

The one who coddles Islamists, too.

118 #FergusonFireside  Mar 9, 2015 8:15:00pm

re: #108 TedStriker

That’s some hardcore, cold-blooded mindfucking right there.

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I’m re-watching & just saw it. Reanalyzed it. The epitome of survival.

119 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 8:16:32pm
120 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 8:19:49pm

re: #118 #FergusonFireside

I’m re-watching & just saw it. Reanalyzed it. The epitome of survival.

Pretty sure the kid would need a change of shorts after that.

121 Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2015 8:22:42pm
122 Nyet  Mar 9, 2015 8:24:15pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

Holocaust denial is one of his lesser sins. He’s a straight-up neo-Nazi.

123 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 9, 2015 8:26:38pm

In IRL news, I ripped up my lesson plans for the week and showed the first part of “Freedom Riders” to my class today. We’ll watch the rest later this week. Again, thanks to whoever rec’d it.

124 Nyet  Mar 9, 2015 8:27:13pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

JFYI, Linder defended Chuck on his site:

Click to Reveal

On the media front, jews are attacking CMC graduate Charles C. Johnson of GotNews because he revealed the name of “Jackie” the disturbed rape-liar in Virginia. Of course, what they really dislike is seeing their own jewish liar #SabrinaRubinErdely exposed. So her fellow jews attack Johnson with lies, and he threatens to sue. That was afoot early 12-12-14 on the twitter wires. The funny thing is that jew Erdely went to school with is and is same year (‘94) as fellow jew liar Stephen Glass, the story-concocter at The New Republic, as portrayed in the excellent movie “Shattered Glass” (my 2004 review at the link).

125 retired cynic  Mar 9, 2015 8:28:03pm

re: #124 Nyet

UGH!

126 thedopefishlives  Mar 9, 2015 8:28:50pm

re: #124 Nyet

How utterly vile.

Good night, gentle lizardfolk.

127 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 8:29:36pm
128 Nyet  Mar 9, 2015 8:30:53pm

Linder also posted Chuck’s materials at his neo-Nazi VNN forum.

129 retired cynic  Mar 9, 2015 8:31:28pm

re: #127 Kragar

That sounds like that river in Egypt, again!

130 goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2015 8:32:02pm

re: #128 Nyet

And Chuck follows him, because (again) of course he does.

131 Nyet  Mar 9, 2015 8:33:42pm

Just found this oldie at VNN by a demented denier:

If the winner of THE FINAL SOLUTION FORENSIC CHALLENGE does so by way of the “huge mass grave” of Sobibor, then nafcash will donate $5,000.00 in the winners name to The Sobibor Archaeology Project if said winner can also prove that Sobibors alleged “giant mountain of human ash” is actually comprised of human ash.

Please note: The only people who are currently eligible for the Sobibor bonus reward are: Andrzej Kola, Michael Shermer, Alex Grobman, Andrew Mathias, Roberto Muehlenkamp, Jonathan Harrison, Nick Terry and Sergey Romanov.

132 goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2015 8:33:59pm
133 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 8:34:00pm

re: #129 retired cynic

That sounds like that river in Egypt, again!

134 jaunte  Mar 9, 2015 8:35:37pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

You’re publishing your autobiography?

Every day.

135 teleskiguy  Mar 9, 2015 8:35:39pm

re: #124 Nyet

UpChuck will never denounce these worthless humans. Motherfucker is out as backward-ass white trash with seething hate in his heart, a walking talking (and fucking tweeting) devolution of the species.

And boy, his followers are dumber than a box of shit. I apologize to the kitty cats out there who may think their boxes of shit aren’t that dumb.

136 teleskiguy  Mar 9, 2015 8:38:10pm

Congressman from Colorado’s 2nd Congressional District:

137 #FergusonFireside  Mar 9, 2015 8:40:35pm

re: #123 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

In IRL news, I ripped up my lesson plans for the week and showed the first part of “Freedom Riders” to my class today. We’ll watch the rest later this week. Again, thanks to whoever rec’d it.

Kudos. Major kudos. XXXXXOOOOO

It is upon US to change this racist country.

138 FemNaziBitch  Mar 9, 2015 8:43:19pm

bbl

139 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 9, 2015 8:44:12pm

re: #137 #FergusonFireside

Kudos. Major kudos. XXXXXOOOOO

It is upon US to change this racist country.

The interesting thing is, only one (out of 25) had heard of the Freedom Riders. It’s a mixed racial group, and I have a bunch of questions for them to think about. Before we watched, I explained that even though we had the Bill of Rights and the Civil War, minorities were still being denied their rights in the 60s, and if we couldn’t face the bad parts of our history, we wouldn’t be able to achieve the ultimate good in the future.

There were some brutal scenes in that first 45 minutes. I know what the second part holds, but it still makes me wince.

140 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 9, 2015 8:45:33pm

On another note, read about the SAE chapter in Oklahoma on another thread earlier today and saw the lynching photos on Daily Kos. Ugh. I can’t even with such hatred.

141 teleskiguy  Mar 9, 2015 8:48:13pm
142 #FergusonFireside  Mar 9, 2015 8:49:55pm

re: #139 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

The interesting thing is, only one (out of 25) had heard of the Freedom Riders. It’s a mixed racial group, and I have a bunch of questions for them to think about. Before we watched, I explained that even though we had the Bill of Rights and the Civil War, minorities were still being denied their rights in the 60s, and if we couldn’t face the bad parts of our history, we wouldn’t be able to achieve the ultimate good in the future.

There were some brutal scenes in that first 45 minutes. I know what the second part holds, but it still makes me wince.

I had a major conversation with my 78 year old Mother tonight. She watches the news so knows the basics. I emailed her the DOJ report and requested she read it. She is aghast, she thought the 1960’s marches settled it.

I calmly, quietly, succinctly explained to her White Privilege. She got it so well.

Talk to everyone, explain to everyone. We have the bullhorn at the moment. Use it.

143 #FergusonFireside  Mar 9, 2015 8:51:54pm

re: #140 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

On another note, read about the SAE chapter in Oklahoma on another thread earlier today and saw the lynching photos on Daily Kos. Ugh. I can’t even with such hatred.

Read this, from the 2nd black SAE member. And as he says it, the last.

144 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 9, 2015 8:53:30pm

re: #116 goddamnedfrank

145 Nyet  Mar 9, 2015 8:54:35pm

So I’m reading about how the Nazis turned Germany from the physics Mecca of the first third of the 20th century into the asylum for the tragicomic deutsche Physik. The champions of this monstrosity were two Nobel laureates, Lenard and Stark, who were bitter at Einstein et al. because their brains apparently refused to accept the new revolutionary ideas, so the geniuses (sarcasm both off & on) simply branded the relativity theory as “the Jewish lie”. Later though their influence waned because the “German physics” was quite simply not in accord with facts, and no matter how ideologically correct it was, it couldn’t deliver any results.

archive.org has an interesting transcript of a debate between Lenard and Einstein that took place in 1920, long before Lenard gained power.

146 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 8:56:22pm
147 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 9, 2015 9:01:06pm

re: #142 #FergusonFireside

I had a major conversation with my 78 year old Mother tonight. She watches the news so knows the basics. I emailed her the DOJ report and requested she read it. She is aghast, she thought the 1960’s marches settled it.

I calmly, quietly, succinctly explained to her White Privilege. She got it so well.

Talk to everyone, explain to everyone. We have the bullhorn at the moment. Use it.

i grew up under forced busing back in the 80s in Texas, when a federal judge basically told the school district what was up. My step-father used the N word extensively and said he’d disown any daughter who brought home a black suitor. Since then, they’ve voted for Obama twice, but old racist habits die hard, and I sometimes have to push back. I think they’d align with the protestors in Ferguson, but I haven’t actually broached the subject yet.

The one thing I did really like (I hate to use the word enjoy here) about Freedom Riders was the courage of all the riders - black and white - against pure evil. This wasn’t make believe, it wasn’t some far-away force, this was bats and guns and fire and all kinds of shit raining down on their heads. I still shake my head just thinking about the courage of those college students.

148 Belafon  Mar 9, 2015 9:03:46pm

re: #144 GlutenFreeJesus

I don’t ever expect to get an answer:

149 BeachDem  Mar 9, 2015 9:04:03pm

re: #123 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

In IRL news, I ripped up my lesson plans for the week and showed the first part of “Freedom Riders” to my class today. We’ll watch the rest later this week. Again, thanks to whoever rec’d it.

Raises hand, smiles, applauds wildly and says, “Yay Rev Arthur Icantbreathing.” You are a gentleman AND a scholar, and your students will thank you for years to come for sharing it with them. (Don’t forget, “Freedom Summer” is by the same production folks, and is equally riveting.)

150 BeachDem  Mar 9, 2015 9:07:22pm

re: #139 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

The interesting thing is, only one (out of 25) had heard of the Freedom Riders. It’s a mixed racial group, and I have a bunch of questions for them to think about. Before we watched, I explained that even though we had the Bill of Rights and the Civil War, minorities were still being denied their rights in the 60s, and if we couldn’t face the bad parts of our history, we wouldn’t be able to achieve the ultimate good in the future.

There were some brutal scenes in that first 45 minutes. I know what the second part holds, but it still makes me wince.

How old are your students?

151 Belafon  Mar 9, 2015 9:11:18pm

I watched Steven Universe and Gravity Falls today. Between those and Adventure Time, Regular Show, and Gumball, I am once again jealous of my kids.

152 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 9, 2015 9:12:28pm

re: #150 BeachDem

How old are your students?

College freshmen. I know.

ETA: I even told them I ripped up the lesson plans because this was too important. I hope they catch the message.

153 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 9, 2015 9:13:46pm

re: #149 BeachDem

Raises hand, smiles, applauds wildly and says, “Yay Rev Arthur Icantbreathing.” You are a gentleman AND a scholar, and your students will thank you for years to come for sharing it with them. (Don’t forget, “Freedom Summer” is by the same production folks, and is equally riveting.)

I haven’t worked through Freedom Summer yet. I can only take so much at a time. ;)

154 Charles Johnson  Mar 9, 2015 9:23:54pm

Chuck is really getting crazy tonight.

155 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 9:26:29pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

Wait, is Chuck trying to say Obama isn’t a tyrant worse than Hitler or Stalin?
///

156 Belafon  Mar 9, 2015 9:27:44pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

What if they decide to target Chuck?

157 BeachDem  Mar 9, 2015 9:29:41pm

re: #153 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I haven’t worked through Freedom Summer yet. I can only take so much at a time. ;)

Maybe toward the end of the school year—show them how some 19-20 year olds spent their summer in 1964. (You can even play Tom Paxton’s Goodman and Schwerner and Chaney for a musical interlude)

…

158 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2015 9:30:01pm

UpChuck is up to his old tricks and doxxing a student at UC-Irvine about that flag thing.

gotnwes.com responds:

BREAKING: Mexican-American UC-Irvine student belongs to secession group — no, not that one

What a complete nontroversy. The student legislature voted to take a US flag down, then the student exec council vetoed that, and the flag is back up. It was inside the student government building, and not even outside on public display.

But flag fetishists get all worked up about this stuff, especially when scary brown people get worked up about the flag.

159 Lidane  Mar 9, 2015 9:38:04pm

I can’t decide if I’m amused by all the RWNJs defending those GOP Senators and their damn near treasonous letter because IT’S JUST A LETTER U GUISE! AND LETTERS = SPEECH! or if I want to reach through my monitor and punch people.

If 47 Democratic Senators had written a letter like that when Dubya was in office the GOP would’ve drafted legislation to ship them all to Gitmo.

160 teleskiguy  Mar 9, 2015 9:38:26pm

When you’ve lost the “conservatarian” thinkers…

161 Amory Blaine  Mar 9, 2015 9:38:37pm

re: #64 #FergusonFireside

You can say it. :P
Wisconsin has gone crazy!

162 retired cynic  Mar 9, 2015 9:42:08pm

re: #159 Lidane

I can’t decide if I’m amused by all the RWNJs defending those GOP Senators and their damn near treasonous letter because IT’S JUST A LETTER U GUISE! AND LETTERS = SPEECH! or if I want to reach through my monitor and punch people.

If 47 Democratic Senators had written a letter like that when Dubya was in office the GOP would’ve drafted legislation to ship them all to Gitmo.

Punch.

163 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 9, 2015 9:42:28pm

Since I had a bit of free time on my hands tonight, I whipped this up.

Introducing CCJ Bingo!

164 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 9:43:13pm
165 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2015 9:46:26pm

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

BINGO!!

What do I win?

166 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2015 9:46:54pm

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

I am so stealing this.

167 Lidane  Mar 9, 2015 9:47:58pm

OK. Total Mac n00b question — how the hell do I edit and crop screen shots? I have about a dozen of them to go through and add to a client report and I have no idea what I’m doing.

I’m half tempted to email them all to myself and use my Dell laptop to do it instead of this MacBook from work, but I figure I actually need to know this shit. Help would be appreciated. :)

168 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 9, 2015 9:48:43pm

Oh hey wheat, is there a photo sharing site that works for sharing photos to folks in China? I posted harp pictures and I’d like to be able to send to your student as well (along with a few others) but I am unsure what links might possibly work.

169 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 9, 2015 9:49:57pm

re: #167 Lidane

I don’t know if you have Keynote on there, but here’s one person who does screenshot editing as a marketer in Keynote.

170 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2015 9:50:00pm

re: #168 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Oh hey wheat, is there a photo sharing site that works for sharing photos to folks in China? I posted harp pictures and I’d like to be able to send to your student as well (along with a few others) but I am unsure what links might possibly work.

Flickr seems to work OK.

171 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 9, 2015 9:51:17pm

re: #170 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Flickr seems to work OK.

That is good to know. I figure some of the English I am throwing at her might be better explained with a picture or two. :)

172 Amory Blaine  Mar 9, 2015 10:03:51pm
173 Amory Blaine  Mar 9, 2015 10:12:55pm

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s rock.
174 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 9, 2015 10:25:53pm

re: #167 Lidane

OK. Total Mac n00b question — how the hell do I edit and crop screen shots? I have about a dozen of them to go through and add to a client report and I have no idea what I’m doing.

I’m half tempted to email them all to myself and use my Dell laptop to do it instead of this MacBook from work, but I figure I actually need to know this shit. Help would be appreciated. :)

Open in preview then select the area you want and command - K. (crop under Tools)

175 teleskiguy  Mar 9, 2015 10:27:20pm

Caption contest! Here’s mine: “The seat doesn’t move around like AfterBurner!”

176 Amory Blaine  Mar 9, 2015 10:33:58pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

“I’m sorry sir. ‘Butcherboi666’ is taken”

177 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 9, 2015 10:48:48pm

re: #169 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t know if you have Keynote on there, but here’s one person who does screenshot editing as a marketer in Keynote.

And for FS, don’t use any presentation app (Keynote and PowerPoint, both) unless you absolutely have to.

178 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2015 11:02:24pm

re: #177 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

And for FS, don’t use any presentation app (Keynote and PowerPoint, both) unless you absolutely have to.

Alas, PowerPoint is de rigueur for presentations and lectures in education, especially in China. Educators latched onto the latest, greatest thing back in the 1980s and never let go. I’ve lost count of how many truly awful PPT lectures I’ve attended or had to grade as a teacher.

For some assignments, I have to specifically tell my students here no PPTs, or else they’ll recycle something from the Internet Archive of Bad PPTs That Should Have Been Nuked Years Ago.

179 Targetpractice  Mar 9, 2015 11:02:27pm

So I missed the Apple presentation, but is the Apple Watch really as ridiculous as it sounds? You have to have an iPhone to get the most of out it, meaning what they’re getting ready to sell is a $350 accessory for your $400 phone?

180 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 9, 2015 11:03:23pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

Caption contest! Here’s mine: “The seat doesn’t move around like AfterBurner!”

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“But, Glorious Leader, this screen will never fit into the cockpit!”

181 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 9, 2015 11:03:31pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

So I missed the Apple presentation, but is the Apple Watch really as ridiculous as it sounds? You have to have an iPhone to get the most of out it, meaning what they’re getting ready to sell is a $350 accessory for your $400 phone?

Not only that, there’s apparently a $10,000 gold watch!

182 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2015 11:03:40pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

So I missed the Apple presentation, but is the Apple Watch really as ridiculous as it sounds? You have to have an iPhone to get the most of out it, meaning what they’re getting ready to sell is a $350 accessory for your $400 phone?

And yet, people will buy them. O_o

183 teleskiguy  Mar 9, 2015 11:04:22pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

So I missed the Apple presentation, but is the Apple Watch really as ridiculous as it sounds?

The Onion does the hard-hitting reporting.

184 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 9, 2015 11:06:06pm

re: #182 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

And yet, people will buy them. O_o

This is where I step off the Apple gadget bandwagon. I have an iPhone, and iPod, and iPad (1st gen) and have always used Apple lappies, but this shit is ridiculous, and I can’t even wear a watch because I break out into hives while wearing one. WTF would I want to keep that going?

185 Targetpractice  Mar 9, 2015 11:09:11pm

re: #182 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

And yet, people will buy them. O_o

No doubt. After all, there are plenty of nutters out there who line up on the block to buy a new iPhone the day it comes out, then piss and moan because all the technical issues haven’t been ironed out.

I thought the whole point of “smartwatches” was that they were to be a replacement for your phone, not an overpriced accessory for your overpriced phone.

186 Timothy Watson  Mar 9, 2015 11:10:55pm

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Alas, PowerPoint is de rigueur for presentations and lectures in education, especially in China. Educators latched onto the latest, greatest thing back in the 1980s and never let go. I’ve lost count of how many truly awful PPT lectures I’ve attended or had to grade as a teacher.

For some assignments, I have to specifically tell my students here no PPTs, or else they’ll recycle something from the Internet Archive of Bad PPTs That Should Have Been Nuked Years Ago.

Students in American universities aren’t much better when they do presentations and I really wish some of the professors would give zeroes if they do death by PowerPoint: I can read the slide just as well as you, thank you very much, I don’t need you to read it to me while making absolutely no eye contact with me.

187 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 9, 2015 11:12:25pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

So I missed the Apple presentation, but is the Apple Watch really as ridiculous as it sounds? You have to have an iPhone to get the most of out it, meaning what they’re getting ready to sell is a $350 accessory for your $400 phone?

The Sport is $350, the next one up is $549 and the Edition is $10,000 and up. I can’t see paying even $350 so that I don’t have to pull my phone out of my pocket to answer it. That said, the thing will probably be a must-have for Apple fanbois.

188 teleskiguy  Mar 9, 2015 11:12:58pm

re: #185 Targetpractice

After all, there are plenty of nutters out there who line up on the block to buy a new iPhone the day it comes out,

The Onion covered this splendidly in 2012.

theonion.com

189 Amory Blaine  Mar 9, 2015 11:14:16pm

I see the appeal of a watch coupled with a tiny earpiece replacing the cell phone, but we ain’t there yet.

190 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 9, 2015 11:15:14pm

re: #188 teleskiguy

The Onion covered this splendidly in 2012.

theonion.com

AKA, Megan McCardle. What has become of her, anyway?

(disclaimer: I have an iPhone 4S that I bought from a friend for $100, contract-free).

191 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 9, 2015 11:15:21pm

192 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 9, 2015 11:16:26pm

re: #186 Timothy Watson

Students in American universities aren’t much better when they do presentations and I really wish some of the professors would give zeroes if they do death by PowerPoint: I can read the slide just as well as you, thank you very much, I don’t need you to read it to me while making absolutely no eye contact with me.

I wish they’d actually show how to do a proper presentation including PPT or Keynote. It’s not rocket surgery.

193 Targetpractice  Mar 9, 2015 11:18:18pm

re: #189 Amory Blaine

I see the appeal of a watch coupled with a tiny earpiece replacing the cell phone, but we ain’t there yet.

The whole appeal to me was of being able to replace your cellphone and watch with one device that could do all the functions of both. But it seems that Apple and other phone manufacturers see money to be made in selling people a phone and a watch that cost three figures apiece.

194 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 9, 2015 11:19:59pm

re: #185 Targetpractice

No doubt. After all, there are plenty of nutters out there who line up on the block to buy a new iPhone the day it comes out, then piss and moan because all the technical issues haven’t been ironed out.

I thought the whole point of “smartwatches” was that they were to be a replacement for your phone, not an overpriced accessory for your overpriced phone.

If Apple came up with an iSomething that had to be surgically implanted in a hole drilled in your skull there are plenty of people who would buy that if a large Apple emblem would show through their hair.

195 teleskiguy  Mar 9, 2015 11:25:43pm

re: #194 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If Apple came up with an iSomething that had to be surgically implanted in a hole drilled in your skull there are plenty of people who would buy that if a large Apple emblem would show through their hair.

Ah Futurama! Highly underrated, that television program.

196 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 11:28:54pm

re: #194 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If Apple came up with an iSomething that had to be surgically implanted in a hole drilled in your skull there are plenty of people who would buy that if a large Apple emblem would show through their hair.

Sounds like the old Cyberpunk 2020 game.

197 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 9, 2015 11:43:47pm

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Alas, PowerPoint is de rigueur for presentations and lectures in education, especially in China. Educators latched onto the latest, greatest thing back in the 1980s and never let go. I’ve lost count of how many truly awful PPT lectures I’ve attended or had to grade as a teacher.

For some assignments, I have to specifically tell my students here no PPTs, or else they’ll recycle something from the Internet Archive of Bad PPTs That Should Have Been Nuked Years Ago.

There’s a lot of people who give bad presentations.

With or without Powerpoint.

I don’t blame the tool for the fact that a lot of people don’t know how to give a good presentation.

I remain eternally grateful that science has been able to move beyond transparencies.

198 Kragar  Mar 9, 2015 11:56:27pm
199 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 12:05:57am
200 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 12:23:09am

My latest, a Night Lords standard bearer. The red gauntlets are a Legion marking specific to the Night Lords, signifying the wearer has been condemned to death, to be carried out at the discretion of his commanding officer.

201 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 2:07:15am

It’s official, Chuck has officially joined the Neoreactionary movement.

He’s basically saying that there will be a preferred career path for every race. But don’t you dare call him a racist or supremacist.

202 Dr Lizardo  Mar 10, 2015 2:14:42am

re: #183 teleskiguy

I’ll just stick with the classics.

203 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 2:14:59am

re: #201 goddamnedfrank

Neoreactionary movement

Neoreactionaries are the latest in a long line of intellectuals who somehow think that their chosen authoritarian thugs wouldn’t put them up against the wall. Possibly using sheer volume of words as a bulletproof shield.[2] Or that they are somehow too competent, virtuous and useful to end up one of the serfs.

Many neoreactionaries were former libertarians; founder Mencius Moldbug describes his own journey as “from Mises to Carlyle” via Hans-Hermann Hoppe, a “libertarian” who pushed feudalism as his desired end state.[3] It’s ideal for soi-disant libertarians who realise they don’t actually like freedom for others all that much.

The movement is largely insignificant and mostly an object of curiosity (one must hope it remains this way), though it has attracted some racists of the pseudo-intellectual variety.

204 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 2:17:55am

A nice semantic end-run, as “diversity” is supposed to be one of those inclusive, progressive terms, but these guys seem to mean it in the sense that “we humans are diverse, and some of us are better than others”.

205 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 2:22:06am

re: #201 goddamnedfrank

206 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 2:27:50am
Neoreactionaries believe “The Cathedral,” is a meta-institution that consists largely of Harvard and other Ivy League schools, The New York Times and various civil servants. Anissimov calls it a “self-organizing consensus.” Sometimes the term is used synonymously with political correctness. The fundamental idea is that the Cathedral regulates our discussions enforces a set of norms as to what sorts of ideas are acceptable and how we view history — it controls the Overton window, in other words.

The name comes from Yarvin’s idea that progressivism (and in his view, even today’s far right Republicans are progressive) is a religion, and that the media-academic-civil service complex punishes “heretical” views.

So what exactly is the Cathedral stopping neoreactionaries from talking about? Well, the merits of monarchy for starters. But mostly, as far as I can tell, they want to be able to say stuff like “Asians, Jews and whites are smarter than blacks and Hispanics because genetics” without being called racist. Or at least be able to express such views without the negative consequences of being labeled racist.

Speaking of which, neoreactionaries are obsessed with a concept called “human biodiversity” (HBD) — what used to be called “scientific racism.” Specifically, they believe that IQ is one of — if not the — most important personal traits, and that it’s predominately genetic. Neoreactionaries would replace, or supplement, the “divine right” of kings and the aristocracy with the “genetic right” of elites.

To call these claims “controversial” would be putting it lightly, but they underpin much of anti-egalitarian and pro-traditionalist claims neoreactionaries make. Delving into the scientific debate over race, genetics and IQ is beyond the scope of this article, but I’ve included some links on the topic in the reading list.

It’s not hard to see why this ideology would catch-on with white male geeks. It tells them that they are the natural rulers of the world, but that they are simultaneously being oppressed by a secret religious order. And the more media attention is paid to workplace inequality, gentrification and the wealth gap, the more their bias is confirmed. And the more the neoreactionaries and techbros act out, the more the media heat they bring.

In reality “The Cathedral” is just people who ask themselves “How can we make society better for everyone and not be gigantic douchebags?” #NRx is the natural next evolution of modern conservatism, a gigantic openly racist regression to an old and outmoded social order. One primarily constructed on a race and class based aristocracy wrapped in a thin patina of pseudo-scientific total bullshit.

207 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 2:55:43am

Arrghh. So I wake up to find out Tom Cotton is going to be on Morning Slow. Mika’s reaction: That’s going to be goood!

Enjoy your money, Mika, because you have no integrity.

208 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 2:59:52am

Some good news on the ISIL front:

Iraqi security forces start military operation to liberate Tikrit from Islamic State militants - @NBCNews
end of alert

Around 95 captives, including 30 Kurdish fighters, escape Islamic State-run prison in north Syria - @Reuters
end of alert

No wonder ISIL wants to recruit westerners. Those in the danger zone know exactly what they’re capable of and refuse to join in the genocide.

209 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 3:05:14am

Talk about someone who doesn’t understand the Constitution, cont.

Tom Cotton Denies GOP Letter Undermines Iran Nuclear Talks

abcnews.go.com

Jesus, you have to listen to this interview with Jonathan Karl (yeah, that guy). And to think that the moron Cotton is going to be in office for the next six years. Ambition and ignorance are a deadly combination.

210 Dr Lizardo  Mar 10, 2015 3:29:57am

re: #209 Justanotherhuman

Talk about someone who doesn’t understand the Constitution, cont.

Tom Cotton Denies GOP Letter Undermines Iran Nuclear Talks

abcnews.go.com

Jesus, you have to listen to this interview with Jonathan Karl (yeah, that guy). And to think that the moron Cotton is going to be in office for the next six years. Ambition and ignorance are a deadly combination.

Reminds me of the quote from Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord:

I divide my officers into four groups. There are clever, diligent, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and diligent — their place is the General Staff. The next lot are stupid and lazy — they make up 90 percent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever and lazy is qualified for the highest leadership duties, because he possesses the intellectual clarity and the composure necessary for difficult decisions. One must beware of anyone who is stupid and diligent — he must not be entrusted with any responsibility because he will always cause only mischief.

en.wikipedia.org

211 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 3:31:30am

The Iranians are just having a good laugh and figuring how to exploit the discord and dysfunctionality of the US government to further their own ends.

But the letter was mainly directed at a domestic audience: the modern GOP is really ready to shoot itself in the foot rather do anything that can be seen as supporting or even cooperating with Obama.

212 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 3:31:58am

re: #192 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I wish they’d actually show how to do a proper presentation including PPT or Keynote. It’s not rocket surgery.

More graphics, fewer words. KISS. (not the band)

213 Dave In Austin  Mar 10, 2015 3:35:16am
214 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 3:35:37am

re: #212 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

More graphics, fewer words. KISS. (not the band)

Yes, a .ppt with too much text is like a movie with too much interior monologue.

215 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 3:40:54am

Seriously, that’s the only reason a civilian would want to have a “stealth” drone, to do really creepy shit.

216 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 3:41:53am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Iranians are just having a good laugh and figuring how to exploit the discord and dysfunctionality of the US government to further their own ends.

But the letter was mainly directed at a domestic audience: the modern GOP is really ready to shoot itself in the foot rather do anything that can be seen as supporting or even cooperating with Obama.

It’s pretty rich that the Iranian foreign minister has to teach 47 US Senators what their Constitutional role in American government is. I even predicted that would be Iran’s reaction. I feel so smart now.

Dear 47 US Senators,

Thank you for your recent correspondence. We all had a big laugh at your joking around. ROFL.

But in case you were being serious, you might want to know that most of Iran’s cabinet has attended US or UK schools, and we know your Constitution pretty well. So, we know none of what you wrote makes any sense at all. So, it’s doubly funny.

Anyway, thanks for making our day.

All the best,
Your friends in Iran

217 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 3:41:57am

re: #213 Dave In Austin

I’ll let you know if Cotton has rehearsed the same lines (he’s coming up on MS) as he did in the Karl interview. : )

218 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 3:42:42am

re: #214 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yes, a .ppt with too much text is like a movie with too much interior monologue.

DUNE! (The 1984 Kyle McLachlan version)

219 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 3:46:35am

re: #218 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

DUNE! (The 1984 Kyle McLachlan version)

Just about what I had in mind. Although it was not so much the interior monologue that bothered as the notion that on a planet where water is more precious than blood, the hero’s hair always look freshly washed and blow-dried…

220 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 3:52:09am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Just about what I had in mind. Although it was not so much the interior monologue that bothered as the notion that on a planet where water is more precious than blood, the hero’s hair always look freshly washed and blow-dried…

This is a problem with most any Hollywood movie. How do people wake up with their hair perfectly coiffed? How does Indy’s hat always stay on his head? How come 007 never gets his tux or Savile Row suit dirty?

I think it’s all a conspiracy. The haircare and clothing industries are holding onto secrets so they can extract money from us poor saps. /

221 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 3:54:11am

Well, it’s not hard to figure out where Cotton is coming from—he quoted Netanyahu. They are mixing apples and oranges since they think all nuclear material is the same and want Iran to be totally “nuclear free”.

Some members of the Senate should be recalled just for their ignorant rhetoric, not to mention trying this end-run about the President they all despise and who’s smarter than the entire lot of them.

222 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 4:11:32am

re: #221 Justanotherhuman

Well, it’s not hard to figure out where Cotton is coming from—he quoted Netanyahu. They are mixing apples and oranges since they think all nuclear material is the same and want Iran to be totally “nuclear free”.

Some members of the Senate should be recalled just for their ignorant rhetoric, not to mention trying this end-run about the President they all despise and who’s smarter than the entire lot of them.

It has all the elements of a Hollywood farce. Dumb and Dumberer Go to Washington.

223 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 4:15:15am

Snowden gives Apple an ad boost. Maybe he’s hoping for one of the $10K watches?

Report: CIA researchers conducted multi-year effort to break security of Apple’s iPhones, iPads, according to documents obtained by Edward Snowden - @the_intercept
read more on firstlook.org

It’s OK if China or Russia or any other country does the same thing, though. Nothing to see at The Intercept, though, about this because the US is always the bad guy over there.

“Apple declined to comment for this story, instead pointing to previous comments Cook and the company have made defending Apple’s privacy record.”

224 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 4:24:32am

GG is resorting to this RW commentary to draw more eyes and trying to insinuate that Dems tried to undercut Bush the same way Cotton & Co is trying to undermine a multi-national agreement w/Iran. The Logan Act? Really?

“Check what people were saying in 2007 when Pelosi “interfered” in Bush’s foreign policy by meeting with Assad hotair.com …”

Pretty soon GG will be linking to Upchuck who is more like his own ideology—total shithead.

225 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 4:25:18am

With Republicans needing significant Democratic support to achieve their goal of derailing the talks — or at least altering the emerging deal — some senators said Cotton’s effort could backfire by injecting excessive partisanship into the debate over how best to prevent a nuclear-armed Iran.

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker said he was approached to sign the letter by Cotton, a Republican from Arkansas, but he concluded it might set back his ultimate goal: veto-proof support for a bill he has sponsored requiring a congressional vote to approve or reject an Iran deal.

226 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 4:28:04am

Well, well, well. Look who Cotton is speaking to today:

ndia.org

Theme
Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR)
Event Number
5LD3
Event Date
3/10/2015 to 3/10/2015
Event Location
The Army and Navy Club
Event Contact
Mrs. Christy J. Mason, CMP at cmason@ndia.org or (703)247-2586

227 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 4:30:32am

re: #226 Justanotherhuman

Oh, and BTW:

“All remarks are Off the Record and strictly Non-Attribution.”

228 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 4:30:54am

Dear Apple, it’s 2015, figure out how to let us merge IDs. Stop saying it can’t be done and just use some of that $10K watch know-how to solve this bullshit. I get that it’ll be a bit messy and irreversible, but lots of your users want it so just fucking do it already.

229 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 4:33:51am

re: #225 Lidane

Can they please say it louder and have it read into the Congressional Record as well as on teh TV?

How about sanctioning those who signed the letter? Put some damned teeth into your words.

230 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 4:36:40am

re: #228 goddamnedfrank

My Apple ID for iTunes is an aol.com email. That’s how old it is. I’d create an new one, but then I lose all the aol.com account info.

231 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 4:37:36am

re: #227 Justanotherhuman

Oh, and BTW:

“All remarks are Off the Record and strictly Non-Attribution.”

Is it too much to hope someone will secretly tape it, and then release the tape into the wild?

232 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 4:39:18am

Good luck with this. I mean, how does Wikipedia figure it has any standing? Are they going to name all their “volunteer editors” as plaintiffs as well?
///

Wikipedia to file lawsuit challenging mass surveillance by NSA

reuters.com

233 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 4:40:31am

She seems nice.

234 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 4:40:48am

“Gun Ownership Rate Hits Record Low”

235 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 4:46:19am

re: #234 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“Gun Ownership Rate Hits Record Low”

Guns are going the way of personal wealth in the USA: more and more of them are owned by fewer and fewer.

236 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 4:46:41am

re: #234 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So, fewer hunters and more guns concentrated in fewer hands.

What does that suggest? I think we know.

237 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 4:55:22am

re: #236 Justanotherhuman

So, fewer hunters and more guns concentrated in fewer hands.

What does that suggest? I think we know.

A well regulated militia?

238 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 4:58:00am

re: #236 Justanotherhuman

So, fewer hunters and more guns concentrated in fewer hands.

What does that suggest? I think we know.

That Obama is destroying America one gun law at a time?

/////

239 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 5:02:50am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Ha. Unregulated, illegal “militias”. You know, those “sovereign citizen” types and others who actually are just fear-mongers who think they know more than the entirety of the country’s existence and actually think they could “overthrow” this govt and for what? Anarchy? Fascism in which they would be the “leaders” and have complete control?

240 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 5:04:42am

These gunfuckers would soil their underoos if they had any idea what the 18th-century military term of art “well-regulated” actually meant.

241 Dark_Falcon  Mar 10, 2015 5:05:23am

re: #160 teleskiguy

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When you’ve lost the “conservatarian” thinkers…

UpChuck has lost everyone except the racist far-right. Mainstream conservatives won’t have anything to do with him. His irrationality and misogyny have made him a toxic pariah, as Goddamnfrank correctly called him

242 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 5:06:02am

re: #236 Justanotherhuman

So, fewer hunters and more guns concentrated in fewer hands.

What does that suggest? I think we know.

Here’s the thing, having a lot of guns isn’t useful unless you have lots of hands, and last I checked most folk only come with two of those. People who are super into conservative gun rights bullshit only have so many friends or like minded people around them, because as stated, most people don’t own guns.

Therefore it doesn’t take very many outliers like me, liberals with a lot of guns, to act as force multipliers, able to arm the absolute fuck out of the hoards of like minded deliberate non-gun owners in any hypothetical crisis.

End result, ain’t nobody hunting their political enemies for food. Seriously, that’s just fucking retarded, who talks like that?

243 Dark_Falcon  Mar 10, 2015 5:10:15am

re: #242 goddamnedfrank

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Here’s the thing, having a lot of guns isn’t useful unless you have lots of hands, and last I checked most folk only come with two of those. People who are super into conservative gun rights bullshit only have so many friends or like minded people around them, because as state, most people don’t own guns.

Therefore it doesn’t take very many outliers like me, liberals with a lot of guns, to act as force multipliers, able to arm the absolute fuck out of the hoards of like minded deliberate non-gun owners in any hypothetical crisis.

End result, ain’t nobody hunting their political enemies for food. Seriously, that’s just fucking retarded, who talks like that?

UpChuck apparently. The man’s now gotten to fantasies of killing and eating women. Somebody needs to have him committed before he kills a woman. Because I can clearly see him doing that.

244 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 5:12:06am

re: #243 Dark_Falcon

UpChuck apparently. The man’s now gotten to fantasies of killing and eating women. Somebody needs to have him committed before he kills a woman. Because I can clearly see him doing that.

His wife, when she gets tired of supporting him and makes him go get a real job….

245 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 5:12:37am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

UpChuck has lost everyone except the racist far-right. Mainstream conservatives won’t have anything to do with him. His irrationality and misogyny have made him a toxic pariah, as Goddamnfrank correctly called him

He may be a toxic pariah, but he’s always just one bullshit attack piece on a Dem away from being embraced again by much of the conservative media. Because that’s the nature of the modern right.

246 Dark_Falcon  Mar 10, 2015 5:14:34am

re: #245 goddamnedfrank

He may be a toxic pariah, but he’s always just one bullshit attack piece on a Dem away from being embraced again by much of the conservative media. Because that’s the nature of the modern right.

I don’t agree on this one, Frank. It’s not his hateful politics, its his personal attacks. Chuckles has made too many enemies to be able to come back. When enough people despise you, it doesn’t matter what you say.

247 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 5:15:18am

Between the RWNJ and the dudebro/moonbat convergence, I don’t think I’ve seen this much anti-govt sentiment ever, even during my own days as an activist.

Does anyone think that the blatant racism of the right and the deeply held but hidden racism of far left moonbats and their reactionary ideologies has anything to do with it?

248 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 5:18:02am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

UpChuck has lost everyone except the racist far-right. Mainstream conservatives won’t have anything to do with him. His irrationality and misogyny have made him a toxic pariah, as Goddamnfrank correctly called him

So, CPAC is part of the racist far-right?

249 Dark_Falcon  Mar 10, 2015 5:20:50am

re: #248 Dr. Matt

So, CPAC is part of the racist far-right?

He was at CPAC, but was avoided by almost all the major conservative figures there. So yeah, he was a toxic pariah at CPAC. And that’s what GDF and Charles said, I’m just repeating it.

250 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 5:21:47am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Also, since you’re here, take a look above at this bit about the neoreactionaries:

To call these claims “controversial” would be putting it lightly, but they underpin much of anti-egalitarian and pro-traditionalist claims neoreactionaries make.

You’ve literally described yourself as “anti egalitarian” before. There is a lot of overlap with that term and elitist classism, along with abject racism. I hope you’re beginning to see the path that such ideologies inevitably lead, that in the end anti-egalitarianism dovetails with a contempt for democracy itself. I’d advise you to abandon using it as a self descriptor in the future.

251 Dark_Falcon  Mar 10, 2015 5:23:10am

But while I’m pretty sure UpChuck can’t make a comeback, here’s a better man who might try one. Not sure if he could but it made for an interesting morning item yesterday:

Tim Tebow ‘throwing very accurate,’ could try out at NFL veteran combine

252 Dark_Falcon  Mar 10, 2015 5:24:17am

re: #250 goddamnedfrank

Let’s continue this later, I gotta run.

BBT

253 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 5:25:23am

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

I don’t agree on this one, Frank. It’s not his hateful politics, its his personal attacks. Chuckles has made too many enemies to be able to come back. When enough people despise you, it doesn’t matter what you say.

In short order, he’s gone after Holly Fisher, Dana Loesch and Bill O’Reilly, written off Rand Paul, Huckaroo and Jeb Bush as candidates, and insulted gods know how many cons via Twitter. He’s like the cartoon character sitting on a tree limb while sawing it off.

254 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 5:26:39am

re: #251 Dark_Falcon

But while I’m pretty sure UpChuck can’t make a comeback, here’s a better man who might try one. Not sure if he could but it made for an interesting morning item yesterday:

Tim Tebow ‘throwing very accurate,’ could try out at NFL veteran combine

Well, Tebow has a marketable skill. UpChuck has none that I perceive.

255 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 5:31:39am

How parents may help create their own little narcissists

eurekalert.org

(snip)

“While parental overvaluation was associated with higher levels of child narcissism over time, it was not associated with more self-esteem. In contrast, parents who showed more emotional warmth did have children with higher self-esteem over time. Parental warmth was not associated with narcissism.

“Overvaluation predicted narcissism, not self-esteem, whereas warmth predicted self-esteem, not narcissism,” Bushman said.

“Parental overvaluation was connected to narcissism even after the researchers took into account the narcissism levels of the parents. In other words, it is not just that narcissistic parents have narcissistic children - the parental overvaluation played a key role.” More

256 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 5:33:48am

Quite cool.

257 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 5:34:05am

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

His wife, when she gets tired of supporting him and makes him go get a real job….

Seriously, if she ever does leave him it’s likely to get really ugly, she’d better have her exit strategy all secretly gamed out in advance. On top of just being plain mentally unwell, he’s sold himself on a shit ton of alpha male MRA bullshit and is a convert to Catholicism. Anybody who’s gone through a divorce knows how stressful and trying it can be for the most well balanced of us. The odds of a guy like that handling such a thing gracefully are anemic at best.

258 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 5:35:18am

Today’s cute animal photo, courtesy of bing.com

African wild ass
259 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 5:37:39am

Even cuter:

260 Decatur Deb  Mar 10, 2015 5:37:54am

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

Seriously, if she ever does leave him it’s likely to get really ugly, she’d better have her exit strategy all secretly gamed out in advance. On top of just being plain mentally unwell, he’s sold himself on a shit ton of alpha male MRA bullshit and is a convert to Catholicism. Anybody who’s gone through a divorce knows how stressful and trying it can be for the most well balanced of us. The odds of a guy like that handling such a thing gracefully are anemic at best.

Easy-peasy. A good Catholic would never kill and eat an SJW on Friday in Lent.

261 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 5:38:34am

re: #258 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Today’s cute animal photo, courtesy of bing.com

[African Wild Ass]

Wherz da Birf cetiffikit??!!

262 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 5:39:49am

re: #260 Decatur Deb

Our local Catholic church is having Friday fish fries so that doesn’t happen as people deprive themselves during Lent. : )

263 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 5:40:49am

re: #260 Decatur Deb

Easy-peasy. A good Catholic would never kill and eat an SJW on Friday in Lent.

I had to turn to Urban Dictionary to find out what SJW means. It’s not Single Jewish Woman, as I suspected, but Social Justice Warrior.

Or is there another meaning?

264 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 5:42:35am

Stepping up to the plate…

265 Decatur Deb  Mar 10, 2015 5:43:24am

re: #262 Justanotherhuman

Our local Catholic church is having Friday fish fries so that doesn’t happen as people deprive themselves during Lent. : )

I invite our parish’s only nun for al fresco feasts. (Salmon grilled on a cedar plank, etc.) She is beginning to catch on to how subversive of penance that is.

266 Decatur Deb  Mar 10, 2015 5:44:07am

re: #263 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I had to turn to Urban Dictionary to find out what SJW means. It’s not Single Jewish Woman, as I suspected, but Social Justice Warrior.

Or is there another meaning?

Was thinking the same thing, but it was the first Google hit.

267 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 5:44:09am

CCJ is fat, slow, out of shape, and faaaaar from being an alpha. IF the world really did turn to shit, it wouldn’t take long at all before an ammosexual puts CCJ on the spit-roast.

268 Decatur Deb  Mar 10, 2015 5:47:03am

re: #267 Dr. Matt

CCJ is fat, slow, out of shape, and faaaaar from being an alpha. IF the world really did turn to shit, it wouldn’t take long at all before an ammosexual puts CCJ on the spit-roast.

Hasenpooper.

269 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 5:48:28am

re: #267 Dr. Matt

CCJ is fat, slow, out of shape, and faaaaar from being an alpha. IF the world really did turn to shit, it wouldn’t take long at all before an ammosexual puts CCJ on the spit-roast.

Considering how much time he spends on Twitter all day, I kinda suspect he’s glued to his computer most of the time, except when necessary. Not much time for exercise.

If I lived in California, I’d be out and about as much as possible.

270 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 5:48:42am

re: #263 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I had to turn to Urban Dictionary to find out what SJW means. It’s not Single Jewish Woman, as I suspected, but Social Justice Warrior.

Or is there another meaning?

I thought it was Social Justice Worker.

271 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 5:50:02am

re: #270 wrenchwench

I thought it was Social Justice Worker.

Social Justice Warrior is somewhat pejorative, like Tom Lehrer’s “folksong army” snark.

272 Decatur Deb  Mar 10, 2015 5:50:31am

re: #270 wrenchwench

I thought it was Social Justice Worker.

Yeah—that’s what Googles. Reading NYT apartment classifieds creates habit interference.

273 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 5:51:17am

re: #270 wrenchwench

I thought it was Social Justice Worker.

Not condescending enough.

274 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 5:52:15am

No, Social Justice Warrior is a derogatory term used by MRA (Men’s Rights Activists) and similar vermin for anyone who’s not a total sociopath.

Also known as “the antihuman transhumanist super-Nazis who are the feminazis.”

275 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 5:52:22am

re: #272 Decatur Deb

Yeah—that’s what Googles. Reading NYT apartment classifieds creates habit interference.

I was thinking more along the lines of Village Voice personals. ;-)

276 Decatur Deb  Mar 10, 2015 5:52:31am

re: #273 goddamnedfrank

Not condescending enough.

You have to say it with the curl of a furry red lip.

277 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 5:52:39am

I assumed it was Social Justice Warrior since they are a frequent target of the MRM victimhood.

278 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 5:53:56am

re: #277 Dr. Matt

I assumed it was Social Justice Warrior since they are a frequent target of the MRM victimhood.

UpChuck is appealing to his core (and remaining) audience, I guess. Trying to be one of the cool kids.

280 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 5:59:14am

re: #279 goddamnedfrank

Joe Biden Literally Cannot Believe What Dicks Republican Senators Are

Joe was my man in ‘88 until that crap about “plagiarism” for forgetting to credit Neil Kinnock one time out of a thousand knocked him out of the race.

Whoever started that shit has a lot to answer for. I don’t think Uncle Joe would have frozen like a deer in the headlights under the Atwater onslaught like Dukakis did, and I know he could have talked rings around that inarticulate gomer Bush.

281 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 5:59:41am
282 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 6:01:57am

Hillary Clinton giving presser on emails today.

BBL.

283 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 6:04:09am

re: #282 Justanotherhuman

Hillary Clinton giving presser on emails today.

BBL.

“Give it the fuck up, people!”

284 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 6:05:39am

Neoreaction is just a more honest logical development of libertarianism. Without the facade of “liberty”.

285 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 6:06:28am

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HAAAAH!!

286 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 6:06:41am

Are there already any Rethug reactions to Zarif’s smackdown?

287 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 6:07:28am

re: #280 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Anita Hill: Joe Biden Botched The Clarence Thomas Hearings

Anita Hill, the woman who accused then-Supreme Court justice nominee Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment, said Vice President Joe Biden did a “terrible job” as Senate Judiciary Committee chairman during the 1991 hearings.

Hill spoke about the hearings in an interview on HuffPost Live Thursday, saying they were meant to “inform the public.”

But Hill said Biden never called three women to testify who were subpoenaed to discuss alleged inappropriate behavior by Thomas. In addition, Hill said there were experts available who could have “given information and helped the public understand sexual harassment.”

Hill is right, Biden fucked that one up badly.

288 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 6:08:34am

re: #133 Kragar

The Senate can ratify treaties, but the GOP seriously overstepped its authority to act on foreign policy matters with that letter. And any deal with Iran doesn’t necessarily rise to the level of a treaty requiring ratification in any event.

The WH has already signaled that very point.

All the GOP wants to do is scuttle the negotiations and they don’t have any plan B except to blame Obama for its failure.

In other news, the latest polls from Israel seem to show that Likud is behind Zionist Block, so Netanyahu may not be PM for much longer.

Take it with grain of salt though as other polls are all over the map.

289 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 6:10:35am

What an average US libertarian is thinking, a Neoreactionary is saying.

290 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 6:11:26am

Lord Our Lucifer

291 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 6:13:22am

re: #284 Nyet

Neoreaction is just a more honest logical development of libertarianism. Without the facade of “liberty”.

They don’t want anybody fooled into thinking, like I was to some extent 35 years ago, that “Libertarian” means “Antiauthoritarian”.

292 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 6:17:06am

re: #290 Nyet

Lord Our Lucifer

In other words, he thought he found a group to hang with until he found out they’re more wacko than he is?

293 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 6:17:17am

re: #285 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

For all the supposed boost that the speech before Congress would give him, it’s turned out to be anything but.

Frankly, it’s not surprising that Netanyahu was engaging in backchannels with the Palestinians and that the 1967 borders came up, since that’s the starting point on any final status talks. Pretty much anyone who follows the conflict knows that the borders will be a variation on the 1967 border between West Bank and Israel (Green Line) with the variations being related to givebacks - Israel keeps X acres to maintain contiguous communities, gives back Y equivalent). There was a Times article from a few years back goes into the various formulations that could be part of the final status.

But that he’s even floated this pierces that whole notion he wouldn’t budge on land givebacks. It seriously narrows the gap between what Likud and Zionist Bloc would do.

And that ad that follows a familiar GOP script of equating union folks with terrorists (like Walker and his union negotiations being experience for dealing with ISIL) went so far over the line that Israelis are fed up with his BS.

294 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 6:18:12am

re: #292 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

In other words, he thought he found a group to hang with until he found out they’re more wacko than he is?

He’s with them on everything but the Jews. /

295 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 6:19:44am
296 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 6:20:05am

re: #294 Nyet

He’s with them on everything but the Jews. /

If Nut-‘n’-Yahoo loses, he’ll turn on them, too.

297 Decatur Deb  Mar 10, 2015 6:22:22am

re: #295 goddamnedfrank

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Make the monarchy small enough to drown in a horse-through!!1!
Baron’s Rights11!

298 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 6:24:36am

re: #297 Decatur Deb

Make the monarchy small enough to drown in a horse-through!!1!
Baron’s Rights11!

I think you have summed up modern Libertarian thinking in a nutshell.

299 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 10, 2015 6:24:39am

Good morning Lizards from overcast and currently dry Pensacola.

Plan this morning once the niece gets up is to drive over to Mobile and tour the USS Alabama and various other pieces of interesting hardware at the park there. Then down to Dauphin Island to visit the marine research lab and aquarium there. After that it will depend on time and weather.

The pho was good last night. :)

And I need to get some lotion for my bit of sunburn from walking on the beach yesterday.

300 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 6:26:23am

re: #296 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If Nut-‘n’-Yahoo loses, he’ll turn on them, too.

Expect a major RW outrage if Nethanyahu loses, it will be spun as a betrayal of the Jewish people by Obama and the White House.

301 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 6:27:34am

Oy, what’s with the creepy #RIPRichardDawkins tag?

302 Mattand  Mar 10, 2015 6:28:57am

re: #287 goddamnedfrank

Anita Hill: Joe Biden Botched The Clarence Thomas Hearings

Hill is right, Biden fucked that one up badly.

Not to excuse any gaffes on Biden’s part, but why is this coming up now? Is this some half-assed attempt to knock the wind out of a Biden run for POTUS?

303 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 6:31:36am

This is yet another shooting that involved an unarmed black man. He was, in fact, naked. There may have been drugs and/or mental health issues involved. Yet the man is dead.

Law enforcement simply refuses to recognize that there’s a huge problem with excessive force and officer involved shootings, especially when it comes to dealing with the mentally ill.

It goes to training, legal protections for use of deadly force, and a system that allows officers to use deadly force even though circumstances would seem to indicate that deadly force is not warranted.

This person was a threat to themselves and needed medical care and treatment. Not to be shot to death.

304 Dr Lizardo  Mar 10, 2015 6:32:16am

re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Expect a major RW outrage if Nethanyahu loses, it will be spun as a betrayal of the Jewish people by Obama and the White House.

Oh, definitely. I’ve already seen a similar line of thought on FR from one of the inmates there a few days ago.

305 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 6:34:15am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

Oh, definitely. I’ve already seen a similar line of thought on FR from one of the inmates there a few days ago.

Because Nethanyahu has come to stand for the RWNJ Vision of Biblical Israel, the one they need to precipitate Armageddon and fulfill their prophecies of the End Times. Truly sick shit.

306 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 6:34:27am

re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Expect a major RW outrage if Nethanyahu loses, it will be spun as a betrayal of the Jewish people by Obama and the White House.

I’m trying not to get my hopes up, but those sweet, sweet wingnut tears are just irresistible!

307 Decatur Deb  Mar 10, 2015 6:36:41am

re: #303 lawhawk

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This is yet another shooting that involved an unarmed black man. He was, in fact, naked. There may have been drugs and/or mental health issues involved. Yet the man is dead.

Law enforcement simply refuses to recognize that there’s a huge problem with excessive force and officer involved shootings, especially when it comes to dealing with the mentally ill.

It goes to training, legal protections for use of deadly force, and a system that allows officers to use deadly force even though circumstances would seem to indicate that deadly force is not warranted.

This person was a threat to themselves and needed medical care and treatment. Not to be shot to death.

Well, he sure as hell wasn’t concealing a weapon.

308 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 6:38:51am

Flashback: Albert Einstein and Hannah Arendt call Herut, which in time morphed into Likud, a fascist party:

309 Teukka  Mar 10, 2015 6:44:52am

re: #308 Nyet

Flashback: Albert Einstein and Hanna Arendt call Herut, which in time morphed into Likud, a fascist party:

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Why am I not the least surprised?

310 Dr Lizardo  Mar 10, 2015 6:46:40am

re: #308 Nyet

[PamGeller]THEY’RE NOT REAL JEWS!! THEY’RE JINO’S!!![/PamGeller]

311 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 6:47:00am

re: #302 Mattand

Not to excuse any gaffes on Biden’s part, but why is this coming up now? Is this some half-assed attempt to knock the wind out of a Biden run for POTUS?

LOL no. A documentary came out last year, that’s why it’s been in the press again. It was a long time ago and I’d like to think that the mistake shaped some of Biden’s views about the trustworthiness of Republicans and subsequent willingness to fight for his beliefs. I don’t even think it compares to some of Hillary’s more noteworthy blunders like the sniper fire story fiasco, but it was definitely one of Biden’s lowest points.

312 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 6:47:32am

We all know that Buzz Aldren is badass. But that he’s friends with Jack White? That’s badass.

313 Decatur Deb  Mar 10, 2015 6:47:52am

Shortly after the Rabin assassination my work involved constant visits to Israeli plants and corporate HQs. At that time you could instantly tell if you were dealing with a Likudnik or an old Histadrut guy by the wear of neckties. I didn’t wear a tie for two years, and only saw our commander in uniform twice, for formal functions.

314 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 10, 2015 6:50:20am

re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Expect a major RW outrage if Nethanyahu loses, it will be spun as a betrayal of the Jewish people by Obama and the White House.

Netanyahu is their hero so it can’t be his fault. The House is held by the GOP and in thrall to its fringe so it can’t be their fault either. That just leaves the sinister powers mustered by the most-inept-President-ever-except-this-time because black people hate Jews and Jesse Jackson once said “Hymietown.”

315 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 6:50:39am

re: #310 Dr Lizardo

Believe it or not, some people are still butthurt about that letter:

jpost.com

316 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 6:53:39am

When Begin was in power, it was absolutely amazing to me that nobody I talked to had ever heard about the King David Hotel.

317 Dr Lizardo  Mar 10, 2015 6:53:44am

re: #314 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Netanyahu is their hero so it can’t be his fault. The House is held by the GOP and in thrall to its fringe so it can’t be their fault either. That just leaves the sinister powers mustered by the most-inept-President-ever-except-this-time because black people hate Jews and Jesse Jackson once said “Hymietown.”

Yeah; if Bibi loses, the RWNJ’s will be apoplectic, blaming President Obama for Netanyahu’s defeat.

318 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 6:54:52am

re: #308 Nyet

Let’s not kid ourselves about Likud’s founding and development as a political movement in Israel. But let’s also not forget that Likud’s Menachem Begin was integral to signing the Camp David Accords, which helped set the table for land for peace deals that have have been the framework of the Israel-Palestinian/Arab negotiations ever since.

Likewise, the Gaza disengagement was pulled off by Ariel Sharon, who had been with Likud for decades until splitting off and forming Kadima.

Those two actions could be seen as equivalents of Nixon going to China.

The current Likud movement looks little like its origins, but Netanyahu runs a very tight ship and doesn’t tolerate any opposition. He’d like people to think that he’s got all the security answers for Israel (which is #1 on Israelis’ minds), but fact is that there’s very little different between Likud and Labor on this, especially as word comes that he was floating the idea of 1967 borders in some form during backchannel talks with the Palestinians.

Without the security issue, there’s little reason to give Likud another shot at running the coalition government especially since Zionist bloc does so much better on economic and housing issues, which are the next two top concerns.

319 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 6:55:23am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

Yeah; if Bibi loses, the RWNJ’s will be apoplectic, blaming President Obama for Netanyahu’s defeat.

And they’ll declare that it’s a victory for Iran/ISIS/insert scary Muslim group here, which is why they’re further convinced that he’s in reality a secret Muslim.

320 Dr Lizardo  Mar 10, 2015 6:59:42am

re: #319 Targetpractice

And they’ll declare that it’s a victory for Iran/ISIS/insert scary Muslim group here, which is why they’re further convinced that he’s in reality a secret Muslim.

Alternatively, I’m sure more than a few of the wingnuts will blame Israelis for “suicidal behavior” by not voting for Bibi, and accuse them of being “self-hating Jews” or some such drivel.

321 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 7:08:15am

re: #320 Dr Lizardo

Alternatively, I’m sure more than a few of the wingnuts will blame Israelis for “suicidal behavior” by not voting for Bibi, and accuse them of being “self-hating Jews” or some such drivel.

Because they do not really give a shit about Jews or Israel, only their own warped ideas about Israel’s role in bringing about the Second Coming.

322 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 7:09:10am

I have to say that I’m kind of surprised by the amount of negative blowback Tom Cotton and his merry band of seditionists are getting today.

The outrage could be a few notches higher, but even the amount I’m seeing is kind of a shock. The Daily News’ editorial (while engaging in some of the usual both-siderism) is justifiably harsh.

Regardless of President Obama’s fecklessness in negotiating a nuclear deal with Iran, 47 Republican U.S. senators engaged in treachery by sending a letter to the mullahs aimed at cutting the legs out from under America’s commander-in-chief.

We join GOP signatories in opposing the pact as outlined, but we strenuously condemn their betrayal of the U.S. constitutional system.

The participants represented the bulk of the Republicans’ 54-member senatorial majority, vesting their petulant, condescending stunt with the coloration of an institutional foreign policy statement.

They are an embarrassment to the Senate and to the nation.

Dems should seize on this and beat the crap out of them with this stunt. Tom Cotton handed them a Louisville Slugger, and they should damn well get to using it.

323 Dr Lizardo  Mar 10, 2015 7:09:13am

re: #321 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Precisely.

324 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 7:13:18am

re: #322 makeitstop

I have to say that I’m kind of surprised by the amount of negative blowback Tom Cotton and his merry band of seditionists are getting today.

The outrage could be a few notches higher, but even the amount I’m seeing is kind of a shock. The Daily News’ editorial (while engaging in some of the usual both-siderism) is justifiably harsh.

Dems should seize on this and beat the crap out of them with this stunt. Tom Cotton handed them a Louisville Slugger, and they should damn well get to using it.

I think the reason the Dems are not making more of this is because too many of them in the Senate really do think the deal is a “bad” one and want to vote on it so as to provide themselves some cover next year. But this letter has only made that a harder task than it already was after Bibi’s speech.

325 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 7:17:42am

re: #322 makeitstop

Tom Cotton handed them a Louisville Slugger, and they should damn well get to using it.

And now I’m picturing that scene from Inglorious Basterds. Heh.

326 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 7:18:40am

re: #325 Lidane

And now I’m picturing that scene from Inglorious Basterds. Heh.

Who gets to be the Bear Jew? /

327 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 7:22:52am

re: #326 lawhawk

Who gets to be the Bear Jew? /

Eli Roth, obviously. He had so much fun the first time. Heh.

328 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 7:23:05am
329 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 7:30:25am

re: #328 lawhawk

Zarif’s King’s English might be a tad bit difficult for the Republican senators to understand. He should have offered a translation into the Tea Party dialect.

330 darthstar  Mar 10, 2015 7:30:46am

re: #328 lawhawk

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“no legal value and mostly a propaganda ploy” - just like the Bibi speech…another swing and miss by Republicans.

331 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 7:33:34am
332 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 7:34:25am

re: #329 Nyet

You mean, like “Fuck off, morans”?

333 darthstar  Mar 10, 2015 7:35:08am

re: #329 Nyet

Zarif’s King’s English might be a tad bit difficult for the Republican senators to understand. He should have offered a translation into the Tea Party dialect.

Senator country-first McCain signed that letter too. Stupid fucker.

334 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 7:36:45am
Tea Party Brain Trust
335 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 7:38:38am

Yeah, but we got a rate hike…

Duke Energy settles lawsuit over post-merger ouster of its CEO in 2012 for $146 million - @AP
end of alert

336 b.d.  Mar 10, 2015 7:40:12am

#47Traitors is the #1 Twitter trending tag right now.

Great job GOP, keep it coming.

337 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 7:41:31am

Get ready for the RW slam…

338 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 7:43:25am

re: #337 Justanotherhuman

Get ready for the RW slam…

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Because all public education is left-wing indoctrination…

339 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 7:45:13am
340 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 7:47:15am

re: #330 darthstar

“no legal value and mostly a propaganda ploy” - just like the Bibi speech…another swing and miss by Republicans.

The Iranians know all about propaganda, so they recognize it when they see it. They also seem to have a better grasp of international law than the GOP does, which is rather comical.

No one knows the actual details of what the negotiations are or what the specifics of the deal will be as it’s still being negotiated.

It just seems that the GOP is far more interested in scuttling the talks, to proceed directly to further sanctions, or military action, even though Iran seems to be in the same position as North Korea - on track to eventually get nuclear weapons, and constraining them seems to be the only alternative.

Heck, this seems to be a situation straight out of ST: Undiscovered Country, where Klingon, Vulcan, and Earth reps all conspired to thwart peace talks because peace was a greater danger to their belief system than ongoing conflict that was unsustainable. Iranian hardliners may be thinking that these talks are denying them their right to pursue nukes, while GOPers in the US want to see talks fail because they want to pursue harsher sanctions or even military action to thwart Iran. Throw in Israeli and Saudi interests that might want to see talks fail and you’ve got vested interests in watching this fail.

On the other side of the ledger, there are a lot of people who want to see them succeed because of the costs of going nuclear in Iran is sapping the economy at a time they can ill afford it; the difficulty of figuring out a military option that wouldn’t turn out to be a clusterfuck; and practical considerations that a nuclear North Korea hasn’t actually changed the dynamics there, so why would a nuclear Iran be different.

Now, there are significant differences between the Iranian and North Korean experience, not the least of which is a religious fervor in Iran that includes a centuries long conflict between Sunni and Shi’a, with Shi’ites gaining the upper hand in the Middle East (though Pakistan could arm Saudi Arabia to negate that advantage). Self preservation might limit what Iran is willing to do (and what North Korea has done so far), and continuing the regime means doing only so much sabre rattling (turning the nukes into an empty threat).

North Korea is contained, so it isn’t a stretch to see a contained Iran.

341 Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2015 7:47:47am

Always fun trying to find that perfect college schedule when they get around to posting next semester’s schedule.

/

342 darthstar  Mar 10, 2015 7:47:54am
343 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 7:50:05am

Who do you think will fall for this and vote for this clown?

Rand Paul to introduce medical marijuana bill in Congress

america.aljazeera.com

344 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 10, 2015 8:00:32am

re: #324 Targetpractice

I think the reason the Dems are not making more of this is because too many of them in the Senate really do think the deal is a “bad” one and want to vote on it so as to provide themselves some cover next year. But this letter has only made that a harder task than it already was after Bibi’s speech.

“We’re really, really, better than the GOP, it’s just that we can’t take a stand on anything or support our party’s President because that might cause people who would never vote for us not to vote for us.”

Way to cultivate indifference Dems.

345 b_sharp  Mar 10, 2015 8:01:56am

re: #342 darthstar

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I did that with a fork. I was four.

346 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 8:01:58am

re: #344 Higgs Boson’s Mate

“We’re really, really, better than the GOP, it’s just that we can’t take a stand on anything or support our party’s President because that might cause people who would never vote for us not to vote for us.”

Way to cultivate indifference Dems.

They are still smarting from the last mid-terms, forgetting that general elections are an entirely different ballgame.

347 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 8:02:30am

re: #345 b_sharp

I did that with a fork. I was four.

I remember totally dismantling one to see how it works…taught me a lesson I will not forget.

348 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 8:09:10am

re: #340 lawhawk

ST:VI is a rather appropriate analogy to the present situation, much as it was to the fall of the USSR. You have the hardliners in Iran in the form of Chang, who cannot accept a situation where Iran is not the dominant power in the region and see any deal that would mean delaying or abandoning nuclear weapons as denying them that which they view as rightfully theirs.

Then you have those like Cotton and McCain in the form of Cartwright, convinced that they finally have Iran on the ropes and they only need to keep the pressure on a bit longer. In their minds, the sanctions have proven that Iran is vulnerable, that if they just hold on a bit longer or tighten the screws a bit more, the Ayatollahs will come to them begging for mercy.

And finally you have Bibi in the form of Ambassador Nanclus, who can only view the matter in the danger (phantom or real) posed to his power if the US and Iran begin to ratchet down the mutual animosity. Making a deal like this would not only making beating the war drums harder, but it could serve as a pathway to future deals and possibly a normalization between us. And that’s something that scares the bejesus out of Cold Warriors like Bibi, the idea that Israel would no longer be the only ally in the region.

349 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 10, 2015 8:10:34am

re: #346 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They are still smarting from the last mid-terms, forgetting that general elections are an entirely different ballgame.

They still can’t figure out how candidates who stood strongly for something, even if many of us find that something repellent, whipped the living shit out of candidates who didn’t stand for anything. Timidity doesn’t win elections these days - if it ever did at all.

350 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 8:10:41am
351 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 8:11:41am

While flipping through the morning shows today, I heard Morning Joe (R-Dead Intern) call the #47Traitors letter “just a piece of paper”. Yet, moments early he was ranting about Hillary’s email will fullforce faux outrage.

352 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 8:13:11am

re: #351 Dr. Matt

While flipping through the morning shows today, I heard Morning Joe (R-Dead Intern) call the #47Traitors letter “just a piece of paper”. Yet, moments early he was ranting about Hillary’s email will fullforce faux outrage.

I always get amusement out of those who claim MSNBC is “Far Left” when they lead off every day with 3 hours of Morning Joke.

353 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 8:13:42am

re: #351 Dr. Matt

While flipping through the morning shows today, I heard Morning Joe (R-Dead Intern) call the #47Traitors letter “just a piece of paper”. Yet, moments early he was ranting about Hillary’s email will fullforce faux outrage.

Which he called “home brewed”, also.

354 Great White Snark  Mar 10, 2015 8:15:20am

How To Get Anti Terror Enforcement Dead Wrong.
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SMH

355 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 8:15:26am

re: #352 Targetpractice

That should have been “Far Left.” Obviously I need more caffeine.

356 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 8:20:33am

re: #352 Targetpractice

I always get amusement out of those who claim MSNBC is “Far Left” when they lead off every day with 3 hours of Morning Joke.

Yeah, if MSNBC is so “far left”, why does the actual Left continuously reject and criticize the network? Dolts

357 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 8:21:04am

re: #259 wrenchwench

Even cuter:

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358 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 8:24:40am

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I think you have summed up modern Libertarian thinking in a nutshell.

HURR HURR THEIR ROAD-BUILDING BARONS NOT ROBBER BARONS!!!! STOP CALLING ARE HEROES ROBBER BARONS!!!!!!

359 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 8:26:26am

re: #348 Targetpractice

And the bizarre thing is that Israel and Iran do have a whole lot more in common than either would care to admit being minority populations in the region (Shi’a are a majority in Iran, but minority in Middle East; Jews are a majority in Israel, but minority elsewhere); the persecution complex runs deep, both have long and storied histories, and there’s a secret history of the two countries working together (see Iran-Contra). Detente between US and Iran would actually improve matters between Israel and Iran, especially as it relates to Hizbullah, Lebanon, Syria, and could lead to improved border security at a minimum and normalization of relations down the road (even if the state of war continues - at least they’d all be talking).

360 FemNaziBitch  Mar 10, 2015 8:28:03am

How is it now?

361 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 8:30:28am

re: #359 lawhawk

And the bizarre thing is that Israel and Iran do have a whole lot more in common than either would care to admit being minority populations in the region (Shi’a are a majority in Iran, but minority in Middle East; Jews are a majority in Israel, but minority elsewhere); the persecution complex runs deep, both have long and storied histories, and there’s a secret history of the two countries working together (see Iran-Contra). Detente between US and Iran would actually improve matters between Israel and Iran, especially as it relates to Hizbullah, Lebanon, Syria, and could lead to improved border security at a minimum and normalization of relations down the road (even if the state of war continues - at least they’d all be talking).

Indeed, but that actually threatens the careers of men like Bibi, who rely upon the strife to sell themselves as “protectors.” The man has developed a bit of a messiah complex, feeling he not only speaks for all Israelis, but now all Jews. So the idea of reproach with Iran, dealing with them as equals rather than the subject of his decades long scaremongering campaign? It would never happen, at least not with him in power.

362 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 8:31:08am

re: #359 lawhawk

And the bizarre thing is that Israel and Iran do have a whole lot more in common than either would care to admit being minority populations in the region (Shi’a are a majority in Iran, but minority in Middle East; Jews are a majority in Israel, but minority elsewhere); the persecution complex runs deep, both have long and storied histories, and there’s a secret history of the two countries working together (see Iran-Contra). Detente between US and Iran would actually improve matters between Israel and Iran, especially as it relates to Hizbullah, Lebanon, Syria, and could lead to improved border security at a minimum and normalization of relations down the road (even if the state of war continues - at least they’d all be talking).

Couldn’t be that Iran might feel a little less need of a nuclear deterrent if there were a sane government in Israel, of course—that’s crazy talk!

363 FemNaziBitch  Mar 10, 2015 8:34:40am
Carlson was raised in a Lutheran family in Anoka, Minnesota, the daughter of Karen and Lee Carlson.[3] She is of Swedish descent.[4] Her father owned a car dealership with her uncle.[3] She has two brothers and one sister.[3] Her grandfather was the pastor of the then second-largest Lutheran church in the United States.[5] She graduated from Anoka-Hennepin School District 11’s Anoka High School, where she was the 1984 class valedictorian.[6] One of her childhood nannies was Michele Bachmann, the future Republican congresswoman.[7]

She graduated from college with a sociology degree in 1990. Started working for CBS in 2000. No reference to what she did in teh 10 years in between.

Like Hasselback, her husband is a Sports guy.

364 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 8:34:55am

Harrison Ford had no choice but to try to crash land after engine quit on his World War II-era plane, preliminary NTSB report says - @latimes
read more on latimes.com

365 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 8:35:29am
366 FemNaziBitch  Mar 10, 2015 8:35:35am

The problem with all the Whackos screaming that the sky is falling all the time is that when it does fall, no one will believe them.

I’m tired of the constant high-anxiety state they seem to live.

367 FemNaziBitch  Mar 10, 2015 8:37:01am

It’s wet where I am. Snow Melt.

368 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 8:37:36am
369 FemNaziBitch  Mar 10, 2015 8:39:17am

re: #368 wrenchwench

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Hopefully this will help reduce the incidence of rape on Tribal Lands.

370 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 8:40:43am

re: #363 FemNaziBitch

Obviously she sat on her ass, perfecting her blonde TV persona.

371 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 8:41:00am

re: #369 FemNaziBitch

Hopefully this will help reduce the incidence of rape on Tribal Lands.

Indeed. It was a crazy situation when some people could not be prosecuted for their crimes.

372 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 8:44:08am

re: #367 FemNaziBitch

Looks like you’re in for some spring-like weather, also, this week. I’ll take rain in the 50s any day over what we’ve been through.

373 FemNaziBitch  Mar 10, 2015 8:50:54am

VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY:

Semiotics (also called semiotic studies; not to be confused with the Saussurean tradition called semiology) is the study of meaning-making, the philosophical theory of signs and symbols.[1] This includes the study of signs and sign processes (semiosis), indication, designation, likeness, analogy, metaphor, symbolism, signification, and communication. Semiotics is closely related to the field of linguistics, which, for its part, studies the structure and meaning of language more specifically. The Semiotic Tradition explores the study of signs and symbols as a significant part of communications. As different from linguistics, however, semiotics also studies non-linguistic sign systems. Semiotics often is divided into three branches:

Semantics: relation between signs and the things to which they refer; their denotata, or meaning

Syntactics: relations among signs in formal structures

Pragmatics: relation between signs and sign-using agents

374 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 8:51:34am
375 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 8:54:02am
376 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 8:55:28am

Looks like Christie is having another bad week, cont.

New Jersey Supreme Court rebukes Christie administration, puts courts in charge of state’s affordable housing - @njdotcom
read more on nj.com

377 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 8:57:40am

BBL…

378 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 8:58:52am
379 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 9:01:40am

re: #378 Charles Johnson

Maybe there a fewer of them than you think, just with a lot of multiple accounts.

380 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 9:01:43am

re: #378 Charles Johnson

This should answer your inquiry:

pbfcomics.com

381 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 9:04:20am

Ah, Gurewitch still in top form.

382 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 9:08:43am

And right under one of those tweets:

Magus Janus ‏@Magus_Janus 21m21 minutes ago
@Green_Footballs respectfully, you should probably read up a bit on genetics. here’s a black guy talking about it:

*eyeroll*

383 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 10, 2015 9:11:14am

re: #378 Charles Johnson

OK, that’s more than two dozen of these neoreactionary racist goons blocked so far. How many more can there be?

Probably not many more than 86,130,000 (27% of 319 million).

384 Ace-o-aces  Mar 10, 2015 9:13:49am
385 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 9:16:22am

re: #382 Nyet

Same guy:

if i could go back in time and kill one person, it’s a close call btw luther and marx. maybe tom paine or Rousseau

386 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 9:16:29am

Anyone else see those ridiculously over the top commercials on any deals with Iran?

387 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 9:20:27am
388 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 9:21:05am

re: #384 Ace-o-aces

Watch this open-carry activist taunt cops outside a school: ‘I’m talking to you, tough guy

Some day an incident like this is all going to go terribly wrong and many, many heads are going to explode in rage at how our Police State curtails our God Given Rights…

389 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 9:21:05am

re: #385 Nyet

But this tweet of his gets right to the core:

390 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 9:21:40am

re: #389 Nyet

But this tweet of his gets right to the core:

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Whoa

391 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 9:24:43am

re: #382 Nyet

And right under one of those tweets:

*eyeroll*

Yeah, that’s one of the jackasses I blocked immediately. Respectfully, of course.

392 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 9:30:37am

re: #289 Nyet

What an average US libertarian is thinking, a Neoreactionary is saying.

What an average Neoreactionary is thinking, a neo-Nazi is saying.

393 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 9:32:38am
394 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 9:34:08am

A song parody that was begging to be written. Apologies to Bock, Harnick, and Stein,

Sedition, Sedition! Sedition!
Sedition, Sedition! Sedition!

Who, day and night, must protect the country,
Tend to the government, deal with a hostile press?
And who has the right, as leader of the nation,
To have the final word at home?

The President, the President! Tradition.
The President, the President! Tradition.

Who must know the way to manufacture outrage,
An anger pure, a rage divine?
Who must rile the ignorant, comfort the bigoted,
While the President tries to do his work?

The Media, the Media! Sedition!
The Media, the Media! Sedition!

In 2013, I became a representative. In 2015, I joined the Senate.
I sent a letter to the leaders of Iran. They read it and laughed.

The Senator, the Senator! Sedition!
The Senator, the Senator! Sedition!

And who does Media treat like jerks,
While the President tries to do his work?

The public, the public! Sedition!
The public, the public! Sedition!

395 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 9:35:20am

Late to the whole NRx nonsense, and frankly, I hadn’t bothered to look into it until reading about who was aligning with it, even briefly, this morning.

You cannot take these folks seriously. They’ve got such a warped worldview, and rational wiki definitely treats them with the respect they deserve.

Neoreactionaries are the latest in a long line of intellectuals who somehow think that their chosen authoritarian thugs wouldn’t put them up against the wall. Possibly using sheer volume of words as a bulletproof shield.[2] Or that they are somehow too competent, virtuous and useful to end up one of the serfs.
Many neoreactionaries were former libertarians; founder Mencius Moldbug describes his own journey as “from Mises to Carlyle” via Hans-Hermann Hoppe, a “libertarian” who pushed feudalism as his desired end state.[3] It’s ideal for soi-disant libertarians who realise they don’t actually like freedom for others all that much.

It attracts pseudo intellectuals, which would explain CCJ’s attraction.

Each one of these nuts is crazier than the next.

396 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 9:37:39am

Moskovsky Komsomolets says that the murderers’ car was seen not far away from Nemtsov’s house before the CH murders, which kinda undermindes the whole bullshit excuse (aside from it simply not being true because Nemtsov never insulted Mohammed).

397 Eventual Carrion  Mar 10, 2015 9:45:18am

Good news to share. My wife had her right foot amputated about 8 months ago. All has gone fine with the prosthetic (other than losing the first one in a kayak flip over last summer, but that is another adventure story for another time :-)). So with the right foot gone she has not been able to drive.

All last week and yesterday she has been down in Johnstown training to use a left foot pedal. This morning she passed her driving test and we are just waiting for the garage to call and set up a day and time to go have the left foot pedal installed on her car. This is such a boost for her outlook on things. The loss of the freedom of driving and having to depend on someone to get her here and there (especially when I am at work) has been bothering her.

It is a happy day for her.

398 iossarian  Mar 10, 2015 9:48:07am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

Boom. I wonder if the freedom of speech crowd will weigh in.

399 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 9:48:37am

re: #395 lawhawk

Late to the whole NRx nonsense, and frankly, I hadn’t bothered to look into it until reading about who was aligning with it, even briefly, this morning.

You cannot take these folks seriously. They’ve got such a warped worldview, and rational wiki definitely treats them with the respect they deserve.

It attracts pseudo intellectuals, which would explain CCJ’s attraction.

Each one of these nuts is crazier than the next.

Yeah, wow, they are so brave and “intellectual” as they sit in the comfort of their homes espousing such idiotic views. But, let’s be real, they wouldn’t last a minute in a society following their NRx cult.

400 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 9:50:03am
401 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 9:51:27am

re: #400 The Mother Of All Pies

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omg.

402 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 9:51:37am

re: #400 The Mother Of All Pies

Just read it.

Never understood the whole fraternities crap. Close them all and fucking study.

403 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 9:51:53am

There seems to me to be a deep contempt for democracy by so called libertarians. They really see the country as intended only for the elite and it’s why they deserve to be called reactionary. What’s frustrating though is a lot of young people hear libertarian ideas and talk of liberty and freedom and ignore the big picture which is if the Austrian school economists had their way, we’d live in a society with little to no upward mobility with no middle class. Unfortunately a lot of young people love hearing the idea of liberty and “the government off my back”.

404 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 9:53:06am

At this point, the SAE frat is only slightly more popular than the Tea Party and #47Traitors

405 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 9:53:18am

re: #400 The Mother Of All Pies

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Heartbreaking. Poor guy. I wouldn’t let my son pledge to a frat or my daughter a sorority.

406 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 9:53:46am

re: #403 HappyWarrior

, we’d live in a society with little to no upward mobility with no middle class. Unfortunately a lot of young people love hearing the idea of liberty and “the government off my back”.

Because they are young and feel immortal and are convinced that the only thing between them and the Fame and Fortune they deserve is a lot of government red tape.

407 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 9:53:59am

re: #402 Nyet

Just read it.

Never understood the whole fraternities crap. Close them all and fucking study.

You’ll never abolish fraternities but they definitely do need oversight.

408 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 9:54:02am
409 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 9:55:44am

re: #408 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is dicktective Chuck already on the case?

410 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 9:56:15am

re: #402 Nyet

Just read it.

Never understood the whole fraternities crap. Close them all and fucking study.

Simple: Booze and girls.

P.S. I was never a frat boy.

411 iossarian  Mar 10, 2015 9:57:12am

re: #402 Nyet

Just read it.

Never understood the whole fraternities crap. Close them all and fucking study.

They’re social living/eating organizations. Every university in the world I’ve ever come into contact with has them (though I don’t know much about your neck of the woods, it’s true). They tend towards the small-c conservative.

It’s just that in the US (surprise, surprise) they tend to be even more conservative (big and small c) than in other places.

412 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 9:57:14am

re: #402 Nyet

Just read it.

Never understood the whole fraternities crap. Close them all and fucking study.

My mother, who went to University of Michigan in the 1940’s, warned me, NEVER JOIN A SORORITY!! THEY ARE THE MEAN GIRLS!!

Fortunately I attended a local college, lived at home and never got into that whole “campus life” thing.

413 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 9:57:14am

re: #406 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because they are young and feel immortal and are convinced that the only thing between them and the Fame and Fortune they deserve is a lot of government red tape.

I think it’s that but I think it really is the abstract concepts that libertarians in the media talk about. It’s easy to be attracted to something when all you hear is about how you deserve total liberty and freedom from government but the fact is you are the government and the government is you. Unfortunately and I blame Reagan and a lot of Republicans for this is the creation of this idea that government employees are somehow different from the rest of society but a government employee can be anyone from a PFC in the Army to your teacher. I think a lot though goes back to why we need better history programs. Too many young people and I say this as a twenty seven year old don’t fully appreciate how hard much of the progress we enjoy today was fought for. That weekend we enjoy wasn’t just given by employers out of the kindenss of their hearts. It took unions for that.

414 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 9:57:38am

re: #410 Dr. Matt

Simple: Booze and girls.

P.S. I was never a frat boy.

All the more reason to stop the practice cold turkey.

415 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 9:57:49am

re: #409 Nyet

Is dicktective Chuck already on the case?

I think he’s still sleeping off a drunken stupor.

416 iossarian  Mar 10, 2015 9:58:55am

David Cameron was in the Oxford University equivalent of a blue-blood reactionary frat.

417 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:00:58am

re: #416 iossarian

David Cameron was in the Oxford University equivalent of a blue-blood reactionary frat.

I’m not surprised by that unfortunately. That’s what a lot of these frats are. They’re old boys clubs. I won’t lie. I have attended fraternity parties and had fun at them but fraternity culture is something that rubs me the wrong way.

418 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 10, 2015 10:01:31am

Has upChuck released the earth shattering, universe realigning, breaking and exclusive story yet he was promising us?

RBS

419 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 10:01:37am

Obviously, there’s freedom of association, etc. outside the campus, but there’s no reason whatsoever for a college or a university to allow any frat buildings on its property, for example.

420 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 10:02:02am

re: #416 iossarian

David Cameron was in the Oxford University equivalent of a blue-blood reactionary frat.

Yes, during the London summer riots of 2011, it came out that his “dining club” used to go out and trash restaurants and then have mummy and daddy pay the cleanup bills…

In other words, the same thing the rioters were doing, except that the taxpayers and insurance customers wound up footing the bill.

421 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 10:02:52am

re: #418 RealityBasedSteve

Has upChuck released the earth shattering, universe realigning, breaking and exclusive story yet he was promising us?

RBS

He’s passed out drunk in a pile of his own poop.

422 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:03:31am

re: #421 The Mother Of All Pies

He’s passed out drunk in a pile of his own poop.

I thought I smelled something.

423 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:04:06am

re: #419 Nyet

Obviously, there’s freedom of association, etc. outside the campus, but there’s no reason whatsoever for a college or a university to allow any frat buildings on its property, for example.

I definitely agree but if they go off campus, it’s much more easy for them to do these hazing rituals that get kids killed.

424 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:05:33am

The problem though is at pretty much any university, your student government is going to be represented heavily by the Greek community. People join these frats as a means of creating connections and of course having a good time. You’ll never abolish them as I said but there has to be better oversight over them too.

425 iossarian  Mar 10, 2015 10:06:51am

re: #419 Nyet

Obviously, there’s freedom of association, etc. outside the campus, but there’s no reason whatsoever for a college or a university to allow any frat buildings on its property, for example.

Part of it is another unfortunate consequence of the US university funding and governance model: a lot of your big-time donors and influential alumni are ex-fraternity members. So that’s a powerful group you don’t want to alienate.

426 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 10:06:59am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

I definitely agree but if they go off campus, it’s much more easy for them to do these hazing rituals that get kids killed.

But would they survive off campus at all? Seems like it would be a great inconvenience. Otherwise that SAE chapter could have just continued to function.

427 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 10:07:19am

re: #424 HappyWarrior

The problem though is at pretty much any university, your student government is going to be represented heavily by the Greek community. People join these frats as a means of creating connections and of course having a good time. You’ll never abolish them as I said but there has to be better oversight over them too.

It was also very different before Twitter and Instagram turned every frat party into an event subject to public scrutiny

428 Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2015 10:07:46am

re: #303 lawhawk

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This is yet another shooting that involved an unarmed black man. He was, in fact, naked. There may have been drugs and/or mental health issues involved. Yet the man is dead.

Law enforcement simply refuses to recognize that there’s a huge problem with excessive force and officer involved shootings, especially when it comes to dealing with the mentally ill.

It goes to training, legal protections for use of deadly force, and a system that allows officers to use deadly force even though circumstances would seem to indicate that deadly force is not warranted.

This person was a threat to themselves and needed medical care and treatment. Not to be shot to death.

Speaking as someone mentally ill people generally have little problem with the mentally ill being shot to death or otherwise mistreated. Because they don’t really believe in mental illness. They believe in mental weakness.

They honestly think that if the mentally ill just applied themselves, grew a backbone, toughened up, they’d get better. Since ours is a society that worships strength, whatever the fuck that is, there isn’t a lot of pity spent on the mentally ill.

Been on the receiving end of that attitude most of my life.

Occasionally I try to get through to them with this cartoon, but it rarely works.

429 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:08:36am

re: #426 Nyet

But would they survive off campus at all? Seems like it would be a great inconvenience. Otherwise that SAE chapter could have just continued to function.

They would and they have. The frat my roommate was in had its building off campus and the frat whose parties I went to had their house off campus. Moving frats off campus won’t solve the problem.

430 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:09:03am

re: #427 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It was also very different before Twitter and Instagram turned every frat party into an event subject to public scrutiny

Yeah hell things have even changed a lot and I’ve only been out three years myself.

431 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 10:10:43am

re: #428 Romantic Heretic

Speaking as someone mentally ill people generally have little problem with the mentally ill being shot to death or otherwise mistreated. Because they don’t really believe in mental illness. They believe in mental weakness.

They honestly think that if the mentally ill just applied themselves, grew a backbone, toughened up, they’d get better. Since ours is a society that worships strength, whatever the fuck that is, there isn’t a lot of pity spent on the mentally ill.

Been on the receiving end of that attitude most of my life.

Occasionally I try to get through to them with this cartoon, but it rarely works.

Even among veterans with PTSD.

432 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:11:18am

re: #428 Romantic Heretic

Speaking as someone mentally ill people generally have little problem with the mentally ill being shot to death or otherwise mistreated. Because they don’t really believe in mental illness. They believe in mental weakness.

They honestly think that if the mentally ill just applied themselves, grew a backbone, toughened up, they’d get better. Since ours is a society that worships strength, whatever the fuck that is, there isn’t a lot of pity spent on the mentally ill.

Been on the receiving end of that attitude most of my life.

Occasionally I try to get through to them with this cartoon, but it rarely works.

I love that cartoon. And you’re right. There’s too many people out there who think getting over mental illness is just that simple. Fact is I’ve struggled with anxiety and depression for much of my life. I would love just to “get over it” and move on but I am not wired that way.

433 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:12:14am

re: #431 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Even among veterans with PTSD.

Yep, see Patton slapping the soldier which made him even more of an icon in wingnut lore. Not knocking Patton’s abilities as a general but as a human being, he was pretty shitty.

434 Flying Squirrel Girl  Mar 10, 2015 10:13:13am

re: #412 The Mother Of All Pies

In college, my roommates and I made fun of them. We hosted a “pledge” party one semester and spray-painted EATME in Greek letters on T-shirts to wear at the party. We thought we were so clever!

435 iossarian  Mar 10, 2015 10:13:15am

re: #426 Nyet

But would they survive off campus at all? Seems like it would be a great inconvenience. Otherwise that SAE chapter could have just continued to function.

Quite a few universities don’t have official, on-campus fraternities and sororities. In those places, the buildings are just across the street. “Off-campus” really only means that they aren’t official student groups (and thus are somewhat restricted in how they can recruit people, e.g., during orientation weeks).

From a practical point of view it’s not a huge restriction on their activities. As HW points out above, it can also have negative effects.

436 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:17:16am

People rag on hipsters but bros are the much more annoying subculture IMHO.

437 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 10:17:29am
438 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:18:08am

re: #437 Lidane

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I am glad that OU seems to be taking this seriously.

439 Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2015 10:19:12am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hate to break it to you, VP Biden, but the GOP, as currently constituted, has no honour. They have only hatred and ambition.

440 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:21:01am

re: #435 iossarian

Quite a few universities don’t have official, on-campus fraternities and sororities. In those places, the buildings are just across the street. “Off-campus” really only means that they aren’t official student groups (and thus are somewhat restricted in how they can recruit people, e.g., during orientation weeks).

From a practical point of view it’s not a huge restriction on their activities. As HW points out above, it can also have negative effects.

If they’re off campus. All they can and will do is just drive pledges to the house. At most universities, non-freshmen can have cars and if you’re in an urban campus, it’s probably easy to get near the off campus house by public transit anyhow. But yeah the one frat whose parties I went to, their house was only a couple blocks from the campus or so. I could leave my apartment on campus and be there within ten minutes.

441 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 10:21:19am

The vine has already been posted above, but it bears repeating:

The fraternity’s 79-year-old house mother, Beauton Gilbow, told Oklahoma’s News9 that she’d never heard the song, with the lyrics “There will never be a n***** at SAE,” before the video went viral.

“I don’t know what I’m doing. I mean, I’m in shock,” she told a reporter on the day that the fraternity was booted from their house.

“”Did you ever get any indication there was anything like this going on?” they asked.

“No, no, no. Never heard the song,” she said.

And then student newspaper The Oklahoma Daily dug up a 2013 Vine featuring Gilbow, in which she repeatedly chanted the word “n*****”, to the tune of Trinidad James’ “All Gold Everything.”

mediaite.com

442 iossarian  Mar 10, 2015 10:21:49am

re: #437 Lidane

FIRE, the “free speech on campus” organization, believes that OU has acted illegally:

As a private organization, the SAE national fraternity is free to punish the chapter, as it has done. Other citizens and groups are free to refuse to associate with the fraternity members based on their expression, and students, faculty, and administrators may of course condemn it. If the expression itself is evidence of other unlawful activity, such activity may be investigated. But the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled time and time again that government institutions like the University of Oklahoma may not punish people for expression protected by the First Amendment.

thefire.org

443 iossarian  Mar 10, 2015 10:24:47am

First they came for the racist frat boys, and I did not speak up, for I was quite pleased to see the racist frat boys get a kicking for a change.

444 FemNaziBitch  Mar 10, 2015 10:25:12am

bbl

445 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 10:25:24am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

There are colleges around the country that have done exactly that. Alfred University for one - occurring after a pledge died after drowning in a creek. They can be shut down, but it typically takes a crisis and death to make happen.

When hazing goes very wrong. Drugs and alcohol frequently play a big part in that - to the point that insuring these groups becomes prohibitively expensive. Going dry can seriously reduce the exposure to lawsuit, as can eliminating the pledge/hazing process.

446 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 10:25:47am

re: #442 iossarian

I would imagine that the president of OU consulted actual lawyers before pulling the trigger. I think the university will survive any legal challenges just fine.

447 Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2015 10:26:59am

re: #397 Eventual Carrion

Good news to share. My wife had her right foot amputated about 8 months ago. All has gone fine with the prosthetic (other than losing the first one in a kayak flip over last summer, but that is another adventure story for another time :-)). So with the right foot gone she has not been able to drive.

All last week and yesterday she has been down in Johnstown training to use a left foot pedal. This morning she passed her driving test and we are just waiting for the garage to call and set up a day and time to go have the left foot pedal installed on her car. This is such a boost for her outlook on things. The loss of the freedom of driving and having to depend on someone to get her here and there (especially when I am at work) has been bothering her.

It is a happy day for her.

That’s great news.

448 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 10:27:07am

A cute OT:

449 iossarian  Mar 10, 2015 10:27:13am

re: #446 Lidane

I would imagine that the president of OU consulted actual lawyers before pulling the trigger. I think the university will survive any legal challenges just fine.

I think they could very well get sued, but they’ve calculated that the benefit from taking a stand outweighs the cost of defending themselves and/or paying penalties. Good for them.

450 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 10:28:17am

re: #445 lawhawk

There are colleges around the country that have done exactly that. Alfred University for one - occurring after a pledge died after drowning in a creek. They can be shut down, but it typically takes a crisis and death to make happen.

When hazing goes very wrong. Drugs and alcohol frequently play a big part in that - to the point that insuring these groups becomes prohibitively expensive. Going dry can seriously reduce the exposure to lawsuit, as can eliminating the pledge/hazing process.

What is the purpose of these torture rituals?

451 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 10:28:47am

re: #450 The Mother Of All Pies

Same as in the Russian army, I guess.

452 Skip Intro  Mar 10, 2015 10:28:58am

re: #408 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So Fox News now has two more interns.

453 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:29:07am

re: #450 The Mother Of All Pies

What is the purpose of these torture rituals?

To build “brotherhood” rolls eyes because ya know having to do five shots of Burnetts vodka makes you more of a man.

454 Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2015 10:29:24am

re: #449 iossarian

I think they could very well get sued, but they’ve calculated that the benefit from taking a stand outweighs the cost of defending themselves and/or paying penalties. Good for them.

I would imagine that all the university has to say is that they can’t legally support a student organization that discriminates on admission due to race.

455 iossarian  Mar 10, 2015 10:29:48am

re: #450 The Mother Of All Pies

What is the purpose of these torture rituals?

Male bonding. Easy to point and laugh, but they exist in every society in some form or other.

456 Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2015 10:29:52am

re: #399 Dr. Matt

Yeah, wow, they are so brave and “intellectual” as they sit in the comfort of their homes espousing such idiotic views. But, let’s be real, they wouldn’t last a minute in a society following their NRx cult.

‘Meanest-Son-Of-A-Bitch-In-The-Valley’ Syndrome. As in, “Yea, though I walk through The Valley of Fear in the shadow of Death I will fear no evil. For I am the meanest son of a bitch in the valley.”

Every person I’ve encountered with this syndrome are kidding themselves, big time.

457 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 10:30:00am

re: #442 iossarian

FIRE, the “free speech on campus” organization, believes that OU has acted illegally:

thefire.org

After having a look at OU’s Student Rights and Responsibilities Code (PDF), I’m pretty sure that OU is on solid ground.

458 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:30:20am

re: #454 Timothy Watson

I would imagine that all the university has to say is that they can’t legally support a student organization that discriminates on admission due to race.

Yeah weren’t they singing there will never be a n-word in SAE?

459 iossarian  Mar 10, 2015 10:31:34am

re: #454 Timothy Watson

I would imagine that all the university has to say is that they can’t legally support a student organization that discriminates on admission due to race.

In a sane world something like that would probably prevail, but in the US you’ve got this whole thing of defining anything and everything as “protected speech”.

460 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 10, 2015 10:33:00am

re: #450 The Mother Of All Pies

What is the purpose of these torture rituals?

Because the previous class of pledges had to endure them they feel it would be unfair not to subject the subsequent classes to the same inane humiliations.

It is a tradition that is deeply rooted in history.

461 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 10:33:22am

And this guy is 100% total fucking moron:

*facepalm*

462 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 10:33:56am

re: #457 Backwoods_Sleuth

After having a look at OU’s Student Rights and Responsibilities Code (PDF), I’m pretty sure that OU is on solid ground.

FIRE doesn’t seem to care about that. They have an issue and an agenda and no time for the ‘politically correct’.

463 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 10:34:07am

re: #461 Lidane

He can probably show you the math on that.

464 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 10:34:24am

re: #461 Lidane

“Not a scientist”

465 iossarian  Mar 10, 2015 10:34:34am

re: #457 Backwoods_Sleuth

After having a look at OU’s Student Rights and Responsibilities Code (PDF), I’m pretty sure that OU is on solid ground.

That is, until (often, sadly, well-meaning) organizations like FIRE take them to court for the handbook as well.

NOTHING TRUMPS THE FREEDOM OF THE SPEECH!

To be clear, I think OU has done the right thing. But the free speech zealots are never sated in their quest for unlimited speech-freedom.

466 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 10:35:39am
467 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 10:35:41am

re: #461 Lidane

Even if he weren’t so factually incorrect, the only proper question would be “why the fuck do you bring this up at all?”, which would be a rhetorical question, looking at Steve “David Duke Lite” Scalise et al.

468 Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2015 10:36:25am

re: #461 Lidane

And this guy is 100% total fucking moron:

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*facepalm*

So…Obama’s 100.01% human?

469 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:36:30am

re: #461 Lidane

And this guy is 100% total fucking moron:

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*facepalm*

I wasn’t aware that the RNC did DNA testing and even if he were right, who the fuck cares.

470 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 10:38:01am

re: #468 Timothy Watson

So…Obama’s 100.01% human?

It’s from the superpowers I gave him.

471 iossarian  Mar 10, 2015 10:38:43am

re: #468 Timothy Watson

So…Obama’s 100.01% human?

He’s got a lot of soul.

(Breaking Bad reference)

472 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 10:39:09am

THIS SHIRT HAS NEVER BEEN WASHED==>

473 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 10:40:05am

re: #470 Varek Raith

It’s from the superpowers I gave him.

Found that yesterday, and you said ‘superpowers’ so….

474 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 10:42:40am
475 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 10:42:44am

re: #473 wrenchwench

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Found that yesterday, and you said ‘superpowers’ so….

Mmmm, bacon.

476 Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2015 10:44:43am

re: #461 Lidane

And this guy is 100% total fucking moron:

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*facepalm*

Wingnuts like to go after Al Gore’s dad, I guess it’s not worth the trouble to point out that Al Gore’s dad was beaten by a Republican who won by claiming that Gore’s dad was too soft on civil rights?

477 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:45:58am

re: #467 Nyet

Even if he weren’t so factually incorrect, the only proper question would be “why the fuck do you bring this up at all?”, which would be a rhetorical question, looking at Steve “David Duke Lite” Scalise et al.

It’s their party and David Duke can cry if he wants to.

478 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 10:46:52am

“Come on kids, look like you’re having fun for the camera, dammit.”

479 BeachDem  Mar 10, 2015 10:47:00am

re: #442 iossarian

FIRE, the “free speech on campus” organization, believes that OU has acted illegally:

thefire.org

Uh oh, this means as soon as he wakes up from his latest stupor, upchuck will be all over it, because, if I remember correctly (don’t care enough to check) upchuck met “asian wife” at a FIRE convention where he ran his mouth about whatnot.

480 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 10:47:26am

The “Arab” rumor seems to originate with Kenneth E. Lamb.

481 Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2015 10:48:44am

re: #433 HappyWarrior

Yep, see Patton slapping the soldier which made him even more of an icon in wingnut lore. Not knocking Patton’s abilities as a general but as a human being, he was pretty shitty.

Personally, I never thought Patton was that great a general.

Must admit to prejudice though, Germany had people like Guderian and von Manstein and the Soviet Union people like Chuikov and Zhukov.

I’m afraid I regard most of the Western Allied generals as competent at best. I think Vandergrift and Collins were the best Americans. Montgomery (much as I dislike him, the glory hound) and Horrocks were the best Brits.

Just my opinion though.

482 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:49:51am

He may have distant Arab ancestry given East Africa’s history with Arab traders and such but who fucking cares. I swear the Republican party has gotten more and more toxic with their xenophobia. Note that when McCain “defended” Obama against the bigoted woman who called him an Arab, he didn’t point out that it was bigoted to call him an Arab.

483 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 10:50:09am

Chuck is awake and blathering about how hacking Hillary’s emails isn’t illegal.

484 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:50:42am

re: #481 Romantic Heretic

Personally, I never thought Patton was that great a general.

Must admit to prejudice though, Germany had people like Guderian and von Manstein and the Soviet Union people like Chuikov and Zhukov.

I’m afraid I regard most of the Western Allied generals as competent at best. I think Vandergrift and Collins were the best Americans. Montgomery (much as I dislike him, the glory hound) and Horrocks were the best Brits.

Just my opinion though.

I am not saying he was great. My favorite field Allied American general FWIW is Omar Bradley. I am also fond of George C. Marshall who had to juggle all those egos.

485 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:51:01am

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chuck is awake and blathering about how hacking Hillary’s emails isn’t illegal.

Perhaps someone should hack his emails then.//

486 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 10:51:51am

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chuck is awake and blathering about how hacking Hillary’s emails isn’t illegal.

How did that turn out for the last dozen or so hackers who claimed that when the Feds got ahold of them?

487 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 10:52:04am

LOLOLOLOLOL!
Now Chuck is calling for a citizens arrest of Hillary.

488 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:52:33am

re: #487 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOL!
Now Chuck is calling for a citizens arrest of Hillary.

Isn’t 10:52)he’s in Fresno IIRC) a little early to start drinking?

489 Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2015 10:52:53am

re: #465 iossarian

That is, until (often, sadly, well-meaning) organizations like FIRE take them to court for the handbook as well.

NOTHING TRUMPS THE FREEDOM OF THE SPEECH!

To be clear, I think OU has done the right thing. But the free speech zealots are never sated in their quest for unlimited speech-freedom.

Nobody stopped them from saying their racist shit. But actions have consequences and the fraternity being shut down was a consequence of their actions.

This is one of the things the ‘free speech advocates’ have a lot of trouble comprehending.

490 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 10:54:00am

Speaking of the emails, Hillary’s supposed to be addressing the “scandal” at 2:20pm EST. Don’t know why, it’s not like there’s much of anything she can say that won’t either be twisted or ignored by the wingnuts.

491 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 10, 2015 10:54:06am

I’m so glad free speech discussions are no longer a reason to start leaving cat pictures all over the thread.

492 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 10:54:57am

re: #491 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m so glad free speech discussions are no longer a reason to start leaving cat pictures all over the thread.

No cat pictures? What sort of insanity is this?!

493 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 10, 2015 10:55:19am

re: #492 Targetpractice

No cat pictures? What sort of insanity is this?!

Cross-eyed kitty.
494 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 10:56:18am

re: #487 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOL!
Now Chuck is calling for a citizens arrest of Hillary.

Subpoena dodger says what?

495 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 10:56:31am

Lord, this shit again.

I love to see Chuck actually try this and get his fat slammed to the ground by the Secret Service. What he’s actually encouraging however is stochastic terrorism.

496 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:57:08am

A lot of so called free speech advocates see free speech as “I can say anything I want and you have to tolerate it.” Uh no. That’s what was missed by a certain someone during the Limbaugh calling Sandra Fluke a slut discussion. Rush could call Sandra a slut all he wanted but people were well within their rights to call for boycotts of him and his show’s sponsors.

497 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 10:57:11am

re: #493 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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498 Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2015 10:57:24am

re: #484 HappyWarrior

I am not saying he was great. My favorite field Allied American general FWIW is Omar Bradley. I am also fond of George C. Marshall who had to juggle all those egos.

How’d I forget about Marshall? He is one of the greats. I blame lack of coffee.

What he went on to accomplish after the war was even better. The Marshall Plan is the best example of winning the peace there is.

That’s one thing warmongers forget. After the war there is a lot to do and it has to be done right or too many people will have given up their lives for nothing.

499 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 10:58:01am

re: #489 Romantic Heretic

Nobody stopped them from saying their racist shit. But actions have consequences and the fraternity being shut down was a consequence of their actions.

This is one of the things the ‘free speech advocates’ have a lot of trouble comprehending.

Just to be clear, this org doesn’t argue against the shutdown.

500 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 10:58:27am

re: #498 Romantic Heretic

How’d I forget about Marshall? He is one of the greats. I blame lack of coffee.

What he went on to accomplish after the war was even better. The Marshall Plan is the best example of winning the peace there is.

That’s one thing warmongers forget. After the war there is a lot to do and it has to be done right or too many people will have given up their lives for nothing.

I live pretty near where he had a home. Great man. And that’s a great point about warmongrels. Knowing how to make peace is arguably more important for a general than knowing how to make war. The Marshall Plan was an act of genius by him and Truman.

501 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 10:59:05am

re: #496 HappyWarrior

A lot of so called free speech advocates see free speech as “I can say anything I want and you have to tolerate it.” Uh no. That’s what was missed by a certain someone during the Limbaugh calling Sandra Fluke a slut discussion. Rush could call Sandra a slut all he wanted but people were well within their rights to call for boycotts of him and his show’s sponsors.

This is a popular wingnut meme==>

502 Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2015 10:59:56am

re: #487 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOL!
Now Chuck is calling for a citizens arrest of Hillary.

CITIZENS GRAND JURY!1!! THE FOURTH BRANCH OF GUBERMENT!!1!

(Seriously, that’s some of the more extreme militia/sovereign citizen shit that was going to depose Obama a couple years back.)

503 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 11:00:08am

re: #491 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m so glad free speech discussions are no longer a reason to start leaving cat pictures all over the thread.

No reason needed.

504 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 11:00:57am

re: #495 goddamnedfrank

505 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 11:01:11am

re: #136 teleskiguy

Congressman from Colorado’s 2nd Congressional District:

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506 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 11:01:41am
507 Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2015 11:02:23am

re: #500 HappyWarrior

I live pretty near where he had a home. Great man. And that’s a great point about warmongrels. Knowing how to make peace is arguably more important for a general than knowing how to make war. The Marshall Plan was an act of genius by him and Truman.

I read a biography of Truman years ago. He said it was his experience as a Southerner that influenced the Marshall Plan.

He knew what a clusterfuck the Reconstruction was, and how that had poisoned American society. He wanted to avoid that after WWII. His idea was to make sure the Axis nations didn’t feel like ‘conquered people’.

It worked too.

508 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 11:02:28am
509 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 11:03:57am

re: #504 Kragar

If Chuck wants to commit suicide by the Secret Service, I, for one, wouldn’t stop him.

510 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 11:04:21am

Must have been a sneaky stealth middle of the night when no one was looking Presidential Pardon:

511 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 11:04:50am

re: #492 Targetpractice

No cat pictures? What sort of insanity is this?!

512 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:04:54am

re: #501 The Mother Of All Pies

This is a popular wingnut meme==>

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Yeah well that’s why they’re fucking morons. Despite what cons believe, most liberals will you give the benefit of the doubt but the minute you start making blanket statements about people of a race, hell fucking yeah I am going to call you fucking racist and hell yeah I will call you homophobic if your opposition to gays having rights is that you find homosexuality sinful. Divorce is also seen as sinful yet no one outside some kooks wants that to be criminalized.

513 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 11:05:10am

re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth

He must be trying to gin up a ‘stochastic’ citizen’s arrest.

514 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:05:23am

re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth

Must have been a sneaky stealth middle of the night when no one was looking Presidential Pardon:

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Hard to give someone a pardon for a crime they didn’t commit.

515 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 11:06:05am

re: #511 makeitstop

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Never sleep again.

516 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 11:06:45am

re: #514 HappyWarrior

Hard to give someone a pardon for a crime they didn’t commit.

details…pesky, pesky details…

517 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 11:06:47am

re: #511 makeitstop

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Damnit, how did you find a picture of my cat?!

//

I swear, I’ve got a little calico and that’s exactly the look she gives me every morning. That look that says “Alright, where’s my food?”

518 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:06:52am

re: #507 Romantic Heretic

I read a biography of Truman years ago. He said it was his experience as a Southerner that influenced the Marshall Plan.

He knew what a clusterfuck the Reconstruction was, and how that had poisoned American society. He wanted to avoid that after WWII. His idea was to make sure the Axis nations didn’t feel like ‘conquered people’.

It worked too.

Interesting. I thought he would have considered himself a Pennsylvanian. I think he was born there but perhaps he was raised in the South and had Southern born parents. He did a great job of that. It would have been even better if Stalin hadn’t told the nations that became the Warsaw Pact nations to accept Marshall Plan aid.

519 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 11:07:02am

re: #512 HappyWarrior

Yeah well that’s why they’re fucking morons. Despite what cons believe, most liberals will you give the benefit of the doubt but the minute you start making blanket statements about people of a race, hell fucking yeah I am going to call you fucking racist and hell yeah I will call you homophobic if your opposition to gays having rights is that you find homosexuality sinful. Divorce is also seen as sinful yet no one outside some kooks wants that to be criminalized.

HURR HURR HOW DARE YOU BE INTOLERANT OF MY RACISM, MISO MYSO WIMMENS-HATIN’ & HOMOPHOBIA!!!! UR TEH REAL RACIST HEAR!!!1!!!

520 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:07:52am

re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth

details…pesky, pesky details…

You’d think that an award winning journalist/rocket builder/Iron Man/creator of the world’s greatest cocktail would know this.

521 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 11:08:19am

re: #515 Nyet

Never sleep again.

My wife says she always looks at you like you owe her money.

522 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 11:09:02am

re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth

Must have been a sneaky stealth middle of the night when no one was looking Presidential Pardon:

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523 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 11:09:05am

re: #517 Targetpractice

Damnit, how did you find a picture of my cat?!

//

I swear, I’ve got a little calico and that’s exactly the look she gives me every morning. That look that says “Alright, where’s my food?”

She’s our littlest. 8 years old and we still call her ‘the kitten.’

524 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:09:24am

re: #519 The Mother Of All Pies

HURR HURR HOW DARE YOU BE INTOLERANT OF MY RACISM, MISO MYSO WIMMENS-HATIN’ & HOMOPHOBIA!!!! UR TEH REAL RACIST HEAR!!!1!!!

As I said fucking morons who think liberals calling their bullshit out is discrimination but them discriminating against gay people because of their “morals” is freedom of religion. I really do try to give conservatives even the benefit of the doubt and I don’t think all criticism of Obama is racist but when I hear some of the shit I’ve heard many conservatives say about him, they just prove that a lot of it is motivated by racism especially when they dismiss him as a mere community organizer.

525 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 11:09:45am

More frat life revealed, this time at University of Texas:

The letter prohibits “fagetry,” “interracial dating,” and “Mexicans.”
…
Members were also warned against “crying to Mom,” “being a pussy (quiting),” and being “deuschbags.”

rawstory.com

No word on spelling rules.

526 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 11:10:07am

Derpness down below: littlegreenfootballs.com

527 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 11:10:20am

re: #523 makeitstop

She’s our littlest. 8 years old and we still call her ‘the kitten.’

I swear, she and my cat must be twins. She’s about the same age, give or take, and is actually the oldest cat in the house. But she’s also tiny, doesn’t weigh more than 7lb.

528 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 11:10:21am

What Bill O’Reilly ignored about George Patton

In a letter to Eisenhower, Truman quoted from a report on conditions in the DP camps. “As matters now stand, we appear to be treating the Jews as the Nazis treated them except that we do not exterminate them. They are in concentration camps in large numbers under our military guard instead of SS troops. One is led to wonder whether the German people, seeing this, are not supposing that we are following or at least condoning Nazi policy.”

The “military guard” that Truman mentioned was Patton’s idea. He had his reasons, Patton wrote in his diary: “If they [the Jewish DPs] were not kept under guard they would not stay in the camps, would spread over the country like locusts, and would eventually have to be rounded up after quite a few of them had been shot and quite a few Germans murdered and pillaged.” At least twice in his diary, Patton referred to the Jewish DPs as “animals.”

The report to Truman was written by Earl G. Harrison, the dean of the University of Pennsylvania’s law school who had inspected the camps. Here is what Patton thought about Harrison: “Harrison and his ilk believe that the Displaced Person is a human being, which he is not, and this applies particularly to Jews who are lower than animals.”

529 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 11:10:25am
530 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 11:11:01am

re: #524 HappyWarrior

As I said fucking morons who think liberals calling their bullshit out is discrimination but them discriminating against gay people because of their “morals” is freedom of religion. I really do try to give conservatives even the benefit of the doubt and I don’t think all criticism of Obama is racist but when I hear some of the shit I’ve heard many conservatives say about him, they just prove that a lot of it is motivated by racism especially when they dismiss him as a mere community organizer.

There is another wingnut meme HURR HURR ALL TEH TEA PARTY WANTS TO DO IS LEAVE EVERYBODY THE HELL ALONE!!!!1!! to which I always say “Unless they’re gay or a woman choosing abortion” then their heads explode

531 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 11:11:28am

re: #526 Dr. Matt

Derpness down below: littlegreenfootballs.com

Alright, who forgot to flush? Fess up!

532 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 11:12:15am

Someone scratch built one of our favorite guys:

533 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:12:48am

re: #530 The Mother Of All Pies

There is another wingnut meme HURR HURR ALL TEH TEA PARTY WANTS TO DO IS LEAVE EVERYBODY THE HELL ALONE!!!!1!! to which I always say “Unless they’re gay or a woman choosing abortion” then their heads explode

Yeah the TP wanting the government to just leave people alone is a fucking lie. No, they want the government to leave business alone, that’s different from government leaving the individual alone which the TP is totally opposed for especially if they’re gay, a woman, or a non-Christian.

534 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 11:12:50am

re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth

535 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 11:13:06am

re: #531 Targetpractice

Alright, who forgot to flush? Fess up!

“Chuk was he*barf*”

536 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 10, 2015 11:13:31am

re: #534 lawhawk

He’s probably still drunk from last night.

537 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 11:14:07am

re: #536 klys (maker of Silmarils)

He’s probably still drunk from last night.

Hair of the dog.

538 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:14:35am

re: #529 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She really is such a nice contrast to that dirtbag who she beat to get into Congress. I said it last night but I really hope the DSCC considers her as a possilbe Senate candidate down the line. Kirk is an ass and Durbin isn’t getting younger I think she understandably though being a new mother and freshman Congresswoman will want to focus on that though. She along with John Lewis is again one of those rare Congresspeople I admire as human beings. .

539 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 11:15:10am

*cough*

540 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 11:15:15am

re: #532 Kragar

Someone scratch built one of our favorite guys:

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Little did Ivan know…

541 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:15:22am

re: #528 Nyet

What Bill O’Reilly ignored about George Patton

Yeah that’s another reason I am not a fan of the Patton cult.

542 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:16:17am

re: #539 Lidane

*cough*

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Hahahaha yeah Mike, conservative Christians never try to impose their values on anyone except all the time when you want secular law to resemble your holy book. What a fucking joke Huckabee is. Give it up Mike, you’re a theocratic fascist, you know it, I know it, and the dog your sicko son tortured knew it.

543 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 11:17:01am

As if he had it.

544 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 11:17:25am

re: #527 Targetpractice

I swear, she and my cat must be twins. She’s about the same age, give or take, and is actually the oldest cat in the house. But she’s also tiny, doesn’t weigh more than 7lb.

My wife found her under my truck at a gig one night - the club was in a shopping center with a pretty large feral colony. There were two of them, but the other one was too fast and my wife couldn’t catch him. :)

Trixie looks surly, but she’s just the sweetest cat. She hangs out here in the office with me all day long.

545 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 10, 2015 11:17:36am

re: #539 Lidane

From the article:

“The point is that for many of us we’re accused of wanting to impose our religious values on someone else; the fact is we just don’t want someone’s secular values imposed upon us,” he said.

We’re the real victims heres!!!

546 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 11:17:58am

More open racism on TCOT
WARNING: click at your own risk, not embedding that shit here

547 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:18:18am

re: #543 Nyet

As if he had it.

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You know Chucky if you were such a great journalist, you wouldn’t be begging on Twitter. You’d actually be investigating rather than hitting the sauce every night and looking like a pathetic wanker.

548 darthstar  Mar 10, 2015 11:18:39am
549 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 11:18:47am

re: #539 Lidane

*cough*

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550 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 11:19:07am

The tyrannical omnipotent (yet incompetent) Obama banning firearms somehow thwarted by ATF dropping proposed regs on ammo restrictions for AR-15s.

551 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:20:44am

re: #545 klys (maker of Silmarils)

From the article:

We’re the real victims heres!!!

The fact is no one’s telling him he has to now believe homosexuality is moral. No one is telling him as a minister that he has to perform SSM but they are telling him and this is what numbnuts like him don’t get is that they can’t discriminate against them. And I can’t discriminate Mike either. Even if I find his brand of Christianity to be disgusting and to resemble a Christian form of Islamism, I cannot lawfully refuse to serve him in my place of business because he is protected by that. It’s amusing to me how fuckers like Huck love to claim GAYS WANT SPECIAL RIGHTS when it’s really the other way around, they want special rights for them as conservative Christians to be able to treat whoever they see as “sinful” to be discriminated against.

552 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 11:21:11am

re: #550 lawhawk

The tyrannical omnipotent (yet incompetent) Obama banning firearms somehow thwarted by ATF dropping proposed regs on ammo restrictions for AR-15s.

There was a Gun Show in town last weekend. I wonder how much the vendors jacked up the price of 5.56 and laughed as the sheeple bought it in bulk.

553 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 11:21:13am
554 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 11:21:22am

re: #548 darthstar

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555 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:21:55am

re: #550 lawhawk

The tyrannical omnipotent (yet incompetent) Obama banning firearms somehow thwarted by ATF dropping proposed regs on ammo restrictions for AR-15s.

This was a ban on armor piercing ammo yes? Because you need armor piercing bullets for hunting(you know game they’re always wearing armor) or targets. Not to mention your home invader who shows up wearing kevlar vests to rob your home.

556 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:22:26am

re: #554 No Country For Old Haters

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Conservatives love seeing themselves as victims.

557 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 11:22:35am

re: #545 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In an non-theocracy all religious claims are (or should be) equal before the law. This leaves the basic “secular” assumptions as the only common basis. Anything beyond that is a movement in some religious direction.

558 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 11:23:09am
559 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 11:23:19am

re: #551 HappyWarrior

Ted Cruz: Freedom won’t survive unless we deny gay people theirs

560 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 11:23:51am

re: #544 makeitstop

My wife found her under my truck at a gig one night - the club was in a shopping center with a pretty large feral colony. There were two of them, but the other one was too fast and my wife couldn’t catch him. :)

Trixie looks surly, but she’s just the sweetest cat. She hangs out here in the office with me all day long.

My mother found Cally while out with my grandmother going to yard sales. While she was out at a farm for one of them, this little kitten who couldn’t have been more than a few months old just walked up to her, brave as could be. And when my mother asked the lady running the yard sale about who the cat belonged to because she was absolutely smitten with her, the woman said she came from a farm up the way and they had so many cats running around that she didn’t figure the owners would notice one missing.

561 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 11:24:13am

This is cool - a Harrisong played on Chapman Sitck.

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562 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 11:24:47am

re: #558 Kragar

No one ever accused him of being a bright legal scholar (except Alan Dershowitz).

563 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:25:09am

re: #558 Kragar

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Figures that he doesn’t understand basic civics. This is fucking elementary Ted. The legislature makes the laws and the judiciary does have the power to deem them unconstitutional. It’s judicial fucking review you fucking moron, it goes all the way basic to the early years of our country. Seems to me that Ted and his kind are the real ones with a problem with our Constitution if he’s going to bitch about the judiciary doing its fucking job.

564 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:25:26am

re: #559 jaunte

Ted Cruz: Freedom won’t survive unless we deny gay people theirs

That man is a menace.

565 EPR-radar  Mar 10, 2015 12:09:20pm

re: #497 Targetpractice

Beware of Jabba the Fluff!!

566 Ace-o-aces  Mar 10, 2015 12:16:04pm

re: #465 iossarian

That is, until (often, sadly, well-meaning) organizations like FIRE take them to court for the handbook as well.

NOTHING TRUMPS THE FREEDOM OF THE SPEECH!

To be clear, I think OU has done the right thing. But the free speech zealots are never sated in their quest for unlimited speech-freedom.

The frat was shut down by the national organization. Even FIRE has not problem with that since they’re a private organization. And since that means the SAE no longer exists at OU, then they don’t’ get to keep their campus housing. FIRE is questioning if the students can be expelled based on their speech.

567 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 10, 2015 1:50:20pm

re: #407 HappyWarrior

You’ll never abolish fraternities but they definitely do need oversight.

They need to be ended. They contribute nothing good to society and every one of them needs to be closed.


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