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1 Iwouldprefernotto  Mar 10, 2015 11:25:29am

i would be really impressed if during the conference Obama parachuted in and gave her a pardon.

2 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 10, 2015 11:26:40am

I eagerly await the heavily edited Fox News version.

3 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 11:28:20am

Make it as simple as possible: “I have complied with all requests to turn over emails in my possession dealing with official State Department matters. Any requests to see those emails should be addressed to the State Department. All the remaining emails are of a personal manner. If you wish to see them, you’re going to need a warrant. Good day.”

4 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 11:29:51am
5 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 10, 2015 11:30:58am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Offering money to solicit a crime AGAIN.

6 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 11:34:29am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

7 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 11:35:31am

Prediction: Cankle references and her outfit will be the first twitter outrage.

8 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:36:24am

re: #7 Dr. Matt

Prediction: Cankle references and her outfit will be the first twitter outrage.

HITLERY. LESBO.//

9 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 11:38:22am

I really, really, really hope she trolls the nutcases and wears a blue dress.

10 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 11:40:07am

re: #9 Dr. Matt

I really, really, really hope she trolls the nutcases and wears a blue dress.

I think its white….

11 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 11:40:15am

Go pound sand, Bobby:

12 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:41:51am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Go pound sand, Bobby:

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Oh go fuck yourself Bobby. Apologize? You got a lot of fucking nerve asshole when Cotton’s the one attempting to subvert the President’s FP because your fucking party can’t handle the fact he’s president. So Bobby why don’t you apologize for your party being a total bag of dicks the past six years to the president simply because your party is full of dicks who aren’t over the Civil Rights movement being a success.

13 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 11:43:56am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Go pound sand, Bobby:

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14 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 11:44:02am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Go pound sand, Bobby:

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Go fornicate with yourself, Jindal. If an apology is owed, it is from 47 Republicans to the President.

15 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 11:44:22am

re: #8 HappyWarrior

HITLERY. LESBO.//

Vince Foster! KILLARY!!!11

16 Unabogie  Mar 10, 2015 11:44:27am

Finally, some answers!!! AOL or Prodigy???

(Lindsey Graham wants to know)

17 Blizard  Mar 10, 2015 11:44:36am

To heck with her emails…I was really hoping to read more about the treasonous GOP in here today. My oh my if the tables were turned what headlines we would be reading…

18 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 11:44:44am

re: #14 Targetpractice

Go fornicate with yourself, Jindal. If an apology is owed, it is from 47 Republicans to the President.

To the whole country. They undermine America when they undermine our president.

19 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 11:44:52am

re: #16 Unabogie

Finally, some answers!!! AOL or Prodigy???

(Lindsey Graham wants to know)

Hotmail.

20 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 11:44:58am
21 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 11:46:03am
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) won’t join the chorus of politicians denouncing former New York City Mayor Rudy Guiliani (R) for saying President Barack Obama doesn’t love America.

In a statement titled “Gov. Jindal Refuses to Condemn Mayor Giuliani,” the Louisiana governor wrote, “The level of the President’s love for our country is immaterial at this juncture.”

22 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:46:19am

re: #13 No Country For Old Haters

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Jindal is a big part of why they’re the stupid party. What’s fucked up and this is why the GOP leadership is worse than the base is he’s really not a stupid man. You don’t become a Rhodes Scholar by being stupid but Jindal knows how to act the fool because he knows his party would rather vote for idiots who tell them that homosexuals having the same rights as them discriminates against them and that men and apes coming from a common ancestor is terrible. Jindal’s awful. He may be one of the most pathetic members of the Republican Party knowing his background as a son of Indian Immigrants and knowing full well his party treats immigrants like his family like trash.

23 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 11:46:31am

re: #14 Targetpractice

Go fornicate with yourself, Jindal. If an apology is owed, it is from 47 Republicans to the President.

47% doomed Romney.
47 Senate GOPers sign letter against Iran negotiations.

I smell conspiracy. ///////////

24 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 11:47:09am

re: #20 wrenchwench

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25 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:47:20am

re: #21 Nyet

Of course. He won’t condemn that but he will condemn Biden for being rightfully pissed at the GOP latest shannigans.

26 Tigger2  Mar 10, 2015 11:47:23am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Go pound sand, Bobby:

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Fuck you four times over Jindal.

27 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 11:47:33am
28 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 11:47:56am
29 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 11:47:57am
30 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 11:48:00am

I just had a very weird conversation with a wingnut who was complaining about the “declining participation” in the labor force. He showed me BLS stats that show the largest cohort of non-participants are TEENAGERS. I said “and kids not working and staying in school is a problem because…” and he said HURR HURR MINIMUM WAGE LAWS HAS PRICED THEM OUT OF TEH LABOR MARKET!!!!!!

Blocked.

31 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 11:48:03am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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Shush!

32 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 11:48:10am

Jindal is of course as racist as the rest of them.

33 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:48:57am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Of course, you would Rick.

34 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 11:49:03am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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No shit. They originally said the presser would start at 2:20pm. It’s now 2:49pm. Just like a woman to make us wait.

/

35 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 11:49:15am

STAY CLASSY ERICK

36 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 11:49:24am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Shorter Perry: ‘Hey, me too, you guys!’

37 darthstar  Mar 10, 2015 11:49:44am

I’ve watched this empty podium long enough. I give up.
Ooh…I just turned the TV off…that felt good.
Enjoy the presser, everyone. I’m off to do something…anything.

38 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 11:49:49am

re: #22 HappyWarrior

You don’t become a Rhodes Scholar by being stupid but Jindal knows how to act the fool

This is sort of connected to what I posted yesterday. You don’t get Nobel Prize in physics by being stupid, and yet…

39 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:50:16am

re: #32 Nyet

Jindal is of course as racist as the rest of them.

Of course. He’s part of their problem. They love to trot out guys like him, Rubio, Cruz, Scott, Carson, Mia Love, etc as “proof” they’re not “racist” but the fact is yeah Jindal is just as bigoted as the rest of them. He’s just as Islamaphobic, he’s just as homophobic, and just as nasty to Hispanic immigrants trying to make a better life in the US. He just happens to be of Indian descent.

40 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 11:50:39am

Wingnuts are making all kinds of ageist jokes about Hillary

41 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 11:50:53am

Whoa. Audio’s a little hot there, NBC…

42 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 11:51:22am

Erick the Erick retweeted this, so classy==>

43 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 11:51:46am

Ahhh!
That was loud!

44 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 11:51:48am

re: #35 The Mother Of All Pies

STAY CLASSY ERICK

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45 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:51:52am

re: #38 Nyet

This is sort of connected to what I posted yesterday. You don’t get Nobel Prize in physics by being stupid, and yet…

Well I guess my point is by saying he’s not stupid is that the guy obviously has some intelligence. I think if Jindal wanted to, he could be a smart and reasonable voice in the political discussion but he chooses to pander to the base. It’s funny for someone who has a lot of education, he’s done a lot to weaken education in his state. Typical conservative though, fuck you, I got mine is his mantra.

46 Unabogie  Mar 10, 2015 11:51:59am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

They’ve got shpilkes.

47 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:52:24am

re: #40 The Mother Of All Pies

Wingnuts are making all kinds of ageist jokes about Hillary

Aren’t these the people who worship Reagan who turned 70 the first month of his presidency? (Rhetorical)

48 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 11:52:51am

re: #42 The Mother Of All Pies

Erick the Erick retweeted this, so classy==>

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49 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 11:53:06am

re: #23 lawhawk

47% doomed Romney.
47 Senate GOPers sign letter against Iran negotiations.

I smell conspiracy. ///////////

The atomic number of silver is 47.

The Manhattan Project to develop the atomic bomb used about 14,700 tons of silver borrowed from the US Treasury for calutron windings for the electromagnetic separation process in the Y-12 National Security Complex at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory.

Oak Ridge is located in Tennessee,

Al Gore is from Tennessee.

It.All.Adds.UP.

50 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 11:53:26am

Why can’t I understand a solid 50% of what Andrea Mitchell is saying?

51 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 11:53:29am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Aren’t these the people who worship Reagan who turned 70 the first month of his presidency? (Rhetorical)

obvs, Reagan wasn’t a woman. How would they get their misogyny on then?

52 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 11:54:04am

Lol, Chuck Todd.

53 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 11:54:16am

Oh God no, not Chuck Todd! Anything but that!

54 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 11:54:17am

Finally, they pot down the damn audio.

55 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 11:54:36am

Is the audio wonky for anyone else?

56 Unabogie  Mar 10, 2015 11:54:54am

Thanks, Chuck Todd, for preserving my perfect record of getting stupider every time I watch cable news.

57 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 11:54:56am

re: #55 Dr. Matt

Is the audio wonky for anyone else?

Yep.

58 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 11:55:15am

re: #49 Dr. Matt

The atomic number of silver is 47.

The Manhattan Project to develop the atomic bomb used about 14,700 tons of silver borrowed from the US Treasury for calutron windings for the electromagnetic separation process in the Y-12 National Security Complex at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory.

Oak Ridge is located in Tennessee,

Al Gore is from Tennessee.

It.All.Adds.UP.

No Math!

59 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 11:55:20am

Right now, I can’t hear it.
It’s great!

60 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 11:55:24am

Hell wingnuts were happy to have a president that probably had early symptoms of Alzheimers in his presidency. I am not a big fan of Hillary’s but at least she is still sharp. That’s more than you can say about Reagan who couldn’t even recognize his own cabinet members.

61 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 11:55:27am

re: #55 Dr. Matt

Is the audio wonky for anyone else?

They were running it way hot for a while. They dialed it back now.

62 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 11:56:15am

Like it matters what she says anyway.
The media doesn’t care.

63 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 11:56:23am

Ah, shut the fuck up, Chuck.

64 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 11:56:48am

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Hell wingnuts were happy to have a president that probably had early symptoms of Alzheimers in his prssidency. I am not a big fan of Hillary’s but at least she is still sharp. That’s more than you can say about Reagan who couldn’t even recognize his own cabinet members.

I’d say certainly. He’s on-record as having said a lot of peculiar things, and back then the Republican party wasn’t only for crazy people.

65 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 11:57:42am

No, UpChuck, poop jokes about you will never get old:

66 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 11:58:29am
67 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 11:58:34am

So I tuned in for a presser about the emails, and instead get Chuck Todd nattering on about just how serious he thinks this “scandal” is.

Ugh.

68 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 11:58:48am

Blah blah blah blah.
-Chuck Todd.

69 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 11:59:40am

The French UN banner in the background is driving the wingnuts apeshit.

70 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:00:03pm

re: #64 No Country For Old Haters

I’d say certainly. He’s on-record as having said a lot of peculiar things, and back then the Republican party wasn’t only for crazy people.

Wouldn’t shock me at all.

71 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 12:00:06pm

I find Todd to be one of the most insufferable tools in the media.
Sheesh.

72 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:00:51pm

re: #71 Varek Raith

I find Todd to be one of the most insufferable tools in the media.
Sheesh.

He loves making every story about him. Reminds me of another Chuck with a beard.

73 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 12:01:08pm

They’ve had two weeks to come up with questions and I bet they’ll be mind-numbingly inane.

74 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 12:01:17pm
75 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 12:01:32pm

This is a woman who is experienced with the press, capitalizing on all the reporters packed in just to hear her words on the “scandal” to talk about topics that they’d otherwise ignore.

76 blueraven  Mar 10, 2015 12:01:34pm

Hillary, knowing the cable channel ghouls didn’t cover her UN speech, begins with a recap. Now moves to the Iran situation and republican letter.

77 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 12:01:41pm

Taking a shot at #47Traitors. Good.

That’ll piss ‘em off (even more than usual).

78 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 12:01:47pm

“jokes originating from the Cathedral”

Culty cult is culty.

79 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 12:02:40pm

re: #7 Dr. Matt

Prediction: Cankle references and her outfit will be the first twitter outrage.

Just unfollowed:

80 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:02:41pm

re: #77 makeitstop

Taking a shot at #47Traitors. Good.

That’ll piss ‘em off (even more than usual).

I am glad she’s doing that. That’s much more bothersome than emailgate.

81 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 12:03:41pm

Style tip: when you begin to sound like a CoS member, time to stop and think.

82 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 12:05:02pm
83 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:07:37pm

re: #82 The Mother Of All Pies

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Seriously? That imbecile is seriously trying to make paying shitty wages a choice issue? Uh no. And here’s the thing that wingnuts that refuse to support decent wages never look at. By refusing to support decent wages, you actually make more people have to go on public assistance. Of course, the wingnut retort is THEY SHOULD WORK MORE. The feudal mindset of conservatives really is disturbing.

84 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 12:07:55pm

Wow this guy is TEH FUCKING IGNORANT==>

85 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 12:08:13pm
86 Tigger2  Mar 10, 2015 12:08:40pm

re: #84 The Mother Of All Pies

Wow this guy is TEH FUCKING IGNORANT==>

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You are talking to a major idiot.

87 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:09:19pm

re: #84 The Mother Of All Pies

Wow this guy is TEH FUCKING IGNORANT==>

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Obviously someone has never read about Appalachia.

88 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 12:09:38pm

Most amusing, the media is.

89 Jack Burton  Mar 10, 2015 12:10:00pm

re: #28 jaunte

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On that particular note… this is my response to all these GOP notroversies:

90 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 12:10:25pm

The media desperately wants to tie this to BENGHAZI@22212ldfksgj.

91 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 12:10:41pm

It’s fun to compare and contrast her being cool and comfortable with taking questions with Scotty Walker either muttering or running from the press.

92 Unabogie  Mar 10, 2015 12:11:47pm

THIS SCANDAL IS BORING.

93 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 12:11:58pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

Obviously someone has never read about Appalachia.

Poors can’t afford to buy fresh meat and veggies and fill up on cheap processed crap. It’s not rocket science.

94 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:12:12pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

It’s fun to compare and contrast her being cool and comfortable with taking questions with Scotty Walker either muttering or running from the press.

Her experience will prove an asset in that way if she’s the nominee. I am still not a huge fan of hers but that she has experience dealing with the press’s bs is undeniable.

95 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 12:12:13pm

Is Jake Tapper in the house? If so, he’ll be the first to wander into wingnut world with his question.

96 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 12:12:19pm

re: #92 Unabogie

THIS SCANDAL IS BORING.

It really is.
Where’s the beef?!

97 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 12:12:38pm

Snore….

98 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:12:41pm

re: #93 The Mother Of All Pies

Poors can’t afford to buy fresh meat and veggies and fill up on cheap processed crap. It’s not rocket science.

Yeah but as said, you’re dealing with a moron.

99 Tigger2  Mar 10, 2015 12:12:43pm

Hell the Media should be talking about the Republicans treasonous move not Emails and Benghazi.

100 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 12:14:22pm

Facepalm.

101 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 10, 2015 12:14:25pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

It’s fun to compare and contrast her being cool and comfortable with taking questions with Scotty Walker either muttering or running from the press.

But Sarah Palin a zillion times more qualified to be President! She’s just like me! Ignorant and incoherent!!!

102 Unabogie  Mar 10, 2015 12:15:30pm

But Ms. Clinton, how can we be sure you didn’t delete the proof of BENGHAZI!!!!!

103 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 12:15:51pm

I notice she didn’t answer the second question about the GOP “proposal.”

104 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 12:16:13pm

Who’s the dickhead asking the loaded questions?

105 Unabogie  Mar 10, 2015 12:16:28pm

re: #104 makeitstop

Who’s the dickhead asking the loaded questions?

Gotta be Fox.

106 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:16:47pm

re: #101 Blind Frog Belly White

But Sarah Palin a zillion times more qualified to be President! She’s just like me! Ignorant and incoherent!!!

I remember Fiorina or Whitman seriously trying to claim that because she was governor of Alaska and remember at that time, she had been governor not even two years that somehow made her more experienced than Biden who had been in the Senate since the early 70’s even though Palin was representing a state with a smaller economy than many large metropolitian areas. They made a deal of Alaska being America’s biggest state but totally ignored the obvious which is not even a million people live there. Her issue wasn’t her on paper qualifications anyhow, it was that she was out of depth and had no knowledge on any issues.

107 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 12:16:59pm

re: #93 The Mother Of All Pies

Poors can’t afford to buy fresh meat and veggies and fill up on cheap processed crap. It’s not rocket science.

Lots and lots of cheap boxed mac and cheese are a regular menu item.

108 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 12:17:24pm
109 Tigger2  Mar 10, 2015 12:17:41pm

re: #104 makeitstop

Who’s the dickhead asking the loaded questions?

Heck the live feed won’t even load for me.

110 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 12:18:27pm

Pwnd.

111 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 12:18:35pm

re: #108 The Mother Of All Pies

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112 Unabogie  Mar 10, 2015 12:19:41pm

My god, will we actually choose a president based on this nothingburger?

113 Zamb  Mar 10, 2015 12:19:51pm

re: #108 The Mother Of All Pies

Based on the congress they just elected it’s not out of the question.

114 Mattand  Mar 10, 2015 12:20:04pm

re: #112 Unabogie

My god, will we actually choose a president based on this nothingburger?

Welcome to America.

115 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 12:20:09pm

Who was ‘David’ at the end?

116 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 12:20:11pm

So, if she drops that she’s running for President at this presser, would that be the lede, or would it be these emails? Hmmmm…. /

117 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 12:20:42pm

re: #112 Unabogie

My god, will we actually choose a president based on this nothingburger?

We appear to be the most clueless/backward western nation, so probably yes.

118 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 12:20:53pm
119 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 12:21:28pm

re: #115 Dr. Matt

Who was ‘David’ at the end?

Sounded like the same dickhead I referred to earlier.

Also, Chuck Todd needs a boot to the jaw. Just sayin

120 Unabogie  Mar 10, 2015 12:21:34pm

Chuck Todd just said Republicans aren’t going to feel very satisfied with this presser.

Ya think??

ETA: And the narrative is born. Hillary sounded “lawyerly”.

121 BigPapa  Mar 10, 2015 12:22:09pm

I would have voted for her in the next 5 elections if she got up there and said ‘What difference does it make anyway?’

122 Mattand  Mar 10, 2015 12:22:14pm

What was the deal about the server again? Leo LaPorte on this week’s TWiT podcast was repeating the rumor that the server was physically located in her house.

I’m pretty sure that’s debunked and if that’s right, I’m pretty sure the Tech Guy should fucking know better.

123 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 12:22:20pm
124 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 12:22:51pm

re: #108 The Mother Of All Pies

125 Mattand  Mar 10, 2015 12:23:03pm

re: #120 Unabogie

Chuck Todd just said Republicans aren’t going to feel very satisfied with this presser.

Ya think??

Just like those two time a black guy got elected to run the country.

126 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 12:23:06pm

re: #122 Mattand

So were they on Morning Joke.

127 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 12:23:07pm

MSNBC: “Fmr. Secretary Clinton Addresses Email Concerns.”

Fox: “Clinton Dodges Questions About Emails.”

CNN: “Why doesn’t anybody wanna hear about the plane?!”

128 Zamb  Mar 10, 2015 12:23:09pm

re: #112 Unabogie

My god, will we actually choose a president based on this nothingburger?

Unlikely, everyone thinks this is the biggest thing since Watergate now, but that happens with every news story now. It’s way to early in the election cycle for this to be a big factor. A week from now some politician will do something stupid or something/someone will disappear and we will be on 24 hour coverage of that.

129 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 12:23:13pm

Chuck Todd says he doesn’t think Hillary has put this behind her. Who could ever have predicted that.

130 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:23:43pm

re: #120 Unabogie

Chuck Todd just said Republicans aren’t going to feel very satisfied with this presser.

Ya think??

ETA: And the narrative is born. Hillary sounded “lawyerly”.

She should have asked Chuck to be honest with himself if Republicans are ever satisfied from anything with this administration.

131 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 12:23:44pm
132 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 12:23:58pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

Chuck Todd says he doesn’t think Hillary has put this behind her. Who could ever have predicted that.

That’s okay. Chuck Todd hasn’t put being a fucking tool behind him either, so it all evens out.

133 Ace-o-aces  Mar 10, 2015 12:25:50pm
134 Tigger2  Mar 10, 2015 12:26:04pm

Well if Hillary is who the Dems nominate I’m voting for her, I would vote for anyone to keep Republicans out of the WH right now the way they are acting.

135 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 12:26:11pm
136 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 12:26:24pm

And, of course, the big focus likely going forward will be that she’s admitted emails were deleted. Cue screaming about how Gowdy needs to have the server seized to see if those emails can be recovered.

137 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 12:26:33pm

So, I didn’t miss anything except the snark from the “pundits”?

138 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 12:26:38pm

Why am I unable to give a shit about this?

139 Mattand  Mar 10, 2015 12:27:03pm

re: #138 The Mother Of All Pies

Why am I unable to give a shit about this?

You’re not paranoid and insane?

140 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 10, 2015 12:27:49pm

re: #138 The Mother Of All Pies

Why am I unable to give a shit about this?

Because you’re not a total drooling moron?

141 Unabogie  Mar 10, 2015 12:27:59pm

re: #138 The Mother Of All Pies

Why am I unable to give a shit about this?

Because it’s a complete nothing of an issue. There are no accusations of actual missing emails. There’s only the all important “cloud” hanging over Clinton because Republicans say there is.

142 Lidane  Mar 10, 2015 12:28:32pm

re: #138 The Mother Of All Pies

Why am I unable to give a shit about this?

Because you’ve got a functional IQ above 100 and you’re not a wingnut.

143 Thanos  Mar 10, 2015 12:28:42pm

re: #135 Charles Johnson

Considering Wikileaks and the state dept emails leaked, it was probably more secure there than on a .gov server back then. Now the obverse would probably be true.

144 EPR-radar  Mar 10, 2015 12:28:58pm

re: #112 Unabogie

My god, will we actually choose a president based on this nothingburger?

Basically yes. Or nothingburgers very much like it.

The GOP has no core policy positions at all, except the desire to cut taxes on the rich and raise them for everyone else. Since this isn’t exactly popular, they have to lie about it. To cover up these lies, the GOP freak show is implemented.

145 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 12:31:02pm

So—all of this is good enough for me and a shit ton of other people. But the Rs won’t let it be for them, of course.

Hillary Clinton says she did not email any classified material on her personal email while secretary of state
end of alert

Hillary Clinton: ‘The laws and regulations in effect when I was secretary of state allowed me to use my email for work. That is undisputed’ - @ZekeJMiller
see original on twitter.com

Hillary Clinton says email server will remain private; was guarded by Secret Service, no security breaches
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Hillary Clinton says any emails that could potentially be related to work are now with the State Department; ‘I believe I have met all my responsibilities’
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Hillary Clinton: As secretary of state, I opted for convenience to use personal email account, which was allowed, because I thought it would be easier to carry 1 device; looking back, it would have been better to have 2 accounts, 2 devices
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146 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 12:31:47pm

Dana thinks this has destroyed Hillary==>

147 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 10, 2015 12:32:10pm

And this guy is a fucking idiot:

148 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 10, 2015 12:32:25pm

re: #143 Thanos

Considering Wikileaks and the state dept emails leaked, it was probably more secure there than on a .gov server back then. Now the obverse would probably be true.

Private business can do ANYTHING ten times better and cheaper than the Government!

I contracted with a private company to provide a more secure server.

She should have used a Government Server!!The only reason to use a private server is to HIDE EVIDENCE!!!

149 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 12:32:28pm

So this neoreactionary fella, who is so non-chalantly snarky and cynical about everything in the world, suddenly gets massive butthurt when some guy makes an innocent offhand joke about Chucky shitting on the floor.

150 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 12:32:41pm

re: #146 The Mother Of All Pies

Dana thinks this has destroyed Hillary==>

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I thought she handled the mob pretty well. Go figure.

151 Unabogie  Mar 10, 2015 12:32:58pm

re: #146 The Mother Of All Pies

She’s obviously a neutral observer here.

152 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:33:09pm

re: #146 The Mother Of All Pies

Dana thinks this has destroyed Hillary==>

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Given that she banked on Todd Akin after his legitimate rape comments, I won’t be asking Dana for future telling in politics.

153 Zamb  Mar 10, 2015 12:34:05pm

re: #146 The Mother Of All Pies

If I recall that was the exact same message being passed around after the first Obama/Romney debate. That sure worked out.

154 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 10, 2015 12:34:05pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Given that she banked on Todd Akin after his legitimate rape comments, I won’t be asking Dana for future telling in politics.

Maybe she and Dick Morris can set up shop together.

155 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:34:15pm

re: #148 Blind Frog Belly White

Private business can do ANYTHING ten times better and cheaper than the Government!

I contracted with a private company to provide a more secure server.

She should have used a Government Server!!The only reason to use a private server is to HIDE EVIDENCE!!!

You have to a shot of tequilla everytime you hear government should be run like a corporation. I swear, I want to punch a wall everytime I hear that. A corporation’s end goal is profit. A government’s is serving its people. Yet Republicans still spout this nonsense.

156 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 12:35:03pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

You have to a shot of tequilla everytime you hear government should be run like a corporation. I swear, I want to punch a wall everytime I hear that. A corporation’s end goal is profit. A government’s is serving its people. Yet Republicans still spout this nonsense.

That’s because they want to run the government like a corporation, and keep the profits.

157 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 12:35:07pm

Yes, after this pressure she’s toast, but Scott Walker can’t answer a simple question about evolution without punting and he’s presidential material.

Ye gods.

158 Tigger2  Mar 10, 2015 12:35:07pm

re: #146 The Mother Of All Pies

Dana thinks this has destroyed Hillary==>

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159 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:35:32pm

re: #156 The Mother Of All Pies

That’s because they want to run the government like a corporation, and keep the profits.

True that. Fucking hacks.

160 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 12:36:23pm

re: #146 The Mother Of All Pies

Dana thinks this has destroyed Hillary==>

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Yes, this is really going to hurt her.

The survey found that 86% of likely Democratic primary voters say they are open to supporting Mrs. Clinton for the party’s nomination
wsj.com

161 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:36:26pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

Yes, after this pressure she’s toast, but Scott Walker can’t answer a simple question about evolution without punting and he’s presidential material.

Ye gods.

Yeah, I’ll say this, if a Republican candidate had this sort of thing brewing against them, they’d just hide and snipe at the media from the sidelines. Props to Hillary for actually going out here and pointing out that this was legal while she was SoS.

162 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 12:36:45pm

re: #146 The Mother Of All Pies

Dana thinks this has destroyed Hillary==>

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163 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 12:36:55pm

re: #147 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

And this guy is a fucking idiot:

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Because when we vote for a president to have a second term, it means he’s not allowed to do a damned thing for four years while he waits for the next person to get elected…

164 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:36:58pm

re: #160 jaunte

Yes, this is really going to hurt her.

She’s doomed I tells ya.

165 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 10, 2015 12:37:33pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

You have to a shot of tequilla everytime you hear government should be run like a corporation. I swear, I want to punch a wall everytime I hear that. A corporation’s end goal is profit. A government’s is serving its people. Yet Republicans still spout this nonsense.

That and “Do you want some government bureaucrat deciding what healthcare you deserve?!?”

To which I reply, “You’d prefer a private corporation determining whether they’ll make more money by letting you be treated or letting you die?”

166 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 10, 2015 12:38:09pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because when we vote for a president to have a second term, it means he’s not allowed to do a damned thing for four years while he waits for the next person to get elected…

the responses to that tweet are pretty epic take downs.

167 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 12:38:30pm

re: #149 Nyet

PS: yes, that’s an invitation for some lighthearted tweet-teasing.

168 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 12:38:51pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I’ll say this, if a Republican candidate had this sort of thing brewing against them, they’d just hide and snipe at the media from the sidelines. Props to Hillary for actually going out here and pointing out that this was legal while she was SoS.

But Why did she wait so long??!?!1

169 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 12:39:03pm
170 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 12:39:08pm

I just love watching the wingnut frenzy, it’s endlessly entertaining

171 BeachDem  Mar 10, 2015 12:39:13pm

re: #146 The Mother Of All Pies

Dana thinks this has destroyed Hillary==>

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Well, if Dana says so…

172 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:39:55pm

re: #170 The Mother Of All Pies

I just love watching the wingnut frenzy, it’s endlessly entertaining

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That guy is such a sad piece of shit. He’s grasped at so many straws over the past six years that they’ve stopped sending him straws.

173 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 12:40:16pm

It really does seem like Whitewater all over again. “WHAT HAS SHE GOT TO HIDE?!” will be the mantra going forward.

174 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 10, 2015 12:40:46pm

re: #146 The Mother Of All Pies

Dana thinks this has destroyed Hillary==>

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You realize Dana wrote those tweets BEFORE Hillary even got to the podium. She was always going to say that.

175 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 12:41:09pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

That guy is such a sad piece of shit. He’s grasped at so many straws over the past six years that they’ve stopped sending him straws.

And Chucky has surpassed him as STUPIDEST MAN ON THE INTERNET

176 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:41:25pm

re: #165 Blind Frog Belly White

That and “Do you want some government bureaucrat deciding what healthcare you deserve?!?”

To which I reply, “You’d prefer a private corporation determining if whether they’ll make more money by letting you be treated or letting you die?”

That’s a great point. Really, it’s not rocket scientist. There are some things that really shouldn’t be for profit. Wingnuts accuse liberals of thinking government is always the answer but I’d say we’re the ones who have more faith in both private and public institutions. They meanwhile ignore the shortcomings of unregulated markets which is something that Smith would if he could have a serious word with them about.

177 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 12:41:41pm

re: #173 Targetpractice

No doubt there is a Black baby in Hillary’s future, and the innumerable abortions she had. ///

178 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 12:41:42pm

Save a copy of this for the Inauguration ceremonies.

179 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:42:34pm

re: #175 The Mother Of All Pies

And Chucky has surpassed him as STUPIDEST MAN ON THE INTERNET

A hard to do feat, gotta give Ginger Avenger credit there. Jim Hoft is a special kind of stupid. Remember when he got angry at the WH Twitter feed for using a fireworks image taken on New Years and posting it on the 4th of July? That guy is just sad.

180 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 12:42:41pm

re: #178 jaunte

Use of “epically” shows she’s still in middle school mode.

181 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 10, 2015 12:42:42pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I’ll say this, if a Republican candidate had this sort of thing brewing against them, they’d just hide and snipe at the media from the sidelines. Props to Hillary for actually going out here and pointing out that this was legal while she was SoS.

what was that rabble rousing speech that gingrich made about press persecution that raised his polls so well back in 2012 at one of the ‘debates’?

why dont hillary use thet?

182 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 10, 2015 12:43:12pm

If Hillary wins the 2016 election, it will be interesting to see whether the Right is more sexist than it is racist.

183 b.d.  Mar 10, 2015 12:43:37pm

E-GHAZI

184 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 12:44:16pm

I can certainly see the logic in addressing this now, with the expectation that it will have burned itself out in the press when she does announce. But at the same time, it probably would have done that without her calling this press conference.

185 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 10, 2015 12:44:33pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

You have to a shot of tequilla everytime you hear government should be run like a corporation. I swear, I want to punch a wall everytime I hear that. A corporation’s end goal is profit. A government’s is serving its people. Yet Republicans still spout this nonsense.

also tell them that if they think corporations dont often go deep into debt then they dont know squat about business

186 blueraven  Mar 10, 2015 12:45:17pm

I remember when Mitt Romney held a press conference about wiping the servers used when he was Governor of Massachusetts.
That was really a good one.

Oh wait…

Just before Mitt Romney left the Massachusetts governor’s office and first ran for president, 11 of his top aides purchased their state-issued computer hard drives, and the Romney administration’s e-mails were all wiped from a server, according to interviews and records obtained by the Globe.

Romney administration officials had the remaining computers in the governor’s office replaced just before Governor Deval Patrick’s staff showed up to take power in January 2007, according to Mark Reilly, Patrick’s chief legal counsel.

…

The governor’s office has found no e-mails from 2002-2006 in our possession,” Reilly said in a statement. “Before the current administration took office, the computers used during that time period were replaced and the server used during that time period was taken out of service, all files were removed from it, and it was also replaced.”

Andrea Saul, a spokeswoman for the Romney campaign, said the governor’s aides did nothing wrong.


“In leaving office, the governor’s staff complied with the law and longtime executive branch practice,” she said. “Some employees exercised the option to purchase computer equipment when they left. They did so openly with personal checks.”

187 Dave In Austin  Mar 10, 2015 12:46:18pm
188 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 12:46:27pm

re: #186 blueraven

But IOKIYAR, doncha know.

189 Ace-o-aces  Mar 10, 2015 12:47:01pm
190 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:47:01pm

re: #185 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

also tell them that if they think corporations dont often go deep into debt then they dont know squat about business

Here’s another one they like to use but they like to say that the poor should just rely on charity rather than public aid. I’ve got nothing against donating to charities but wingnuts of course ignore the corruption that does exist within charities. Really, I think the modern liberal is someone who realizes like a responsible adult that sometimes are better off in the public sphere, somethings in the private, and some things in both. The modern conservative meanwhile thinks like a hardline Communist in that he thinks only one way works.

191 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:47:34pm

re: #189 Ace-o-aces

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What the fuck.

192 Ace-o-aces  Mar 10, 2015 12:48:37pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

What the fuck.

If I put that on an application, I would never work again.

193 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 12:49:19pm

re: #186 blueraven

I remember when Mitt Romney held a press conference about wiping the servers used when he was Governor of Massachusetts.
That was really a good one.

Oh wait…

Willard had all his emails wiped and the press gave no shits.

Scotty Walker used a private account when he was Madison County Exec and the press hasn’t seen fit to grill him on that.

Jeb Bush has made a lot of noise about releasing his official emails, yet he only released 250,000 of 3 million emails sent through his own private server. Yet the press doesn’t want to address the disparity in the numbers or question him on what criteria his own staffers used to decide which emails would be released.

No double standard here, folks.////

194 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 12:49:20pm

re: #192 Ace-o-aces

If I put that on an application, I would never work again.

If I put that on an application, I think the employer would be contacting the police. At the very least not bringing me on board.

195 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 12:49:49pm

Chuck is in Firehose of Stupidity mode again.

196 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 10, 2015 12:50:13pm

when are the republicans gonna demand proof that hillary’s boobs are real??

197 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 10, 2015 12:50:18pm

re: #187 Dave In Austin

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For what crime, exactly? That’s what I’ve never been able to get wingnuts to spell out.

198 blueraven  Mar 10, 2015 12:50:54pm

re: #188 Justanotherhuman

But IOKIYAR, doncha know.

Yes, Romney destroyed ALL his emails and radio silence.
Hillary to turn over 55,000 pages and HUGE SCANDAL.

He is a savvy business guy, ya know?

199 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 12:50:56pm

re: #175 The Mother Of All Pies

And Chucky has surpassed him as STUPIDEST MAN ON THE INTERNET

200 Ace-o-aces  Mar 10, 2015 12:50:56pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

Chuck is in Firehose of Stupidity mode again.

ooooooh, I’m blocked. Can you post ‘em?

201 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 12:50:57pm

Chuck obviously doesn’t have a clue that there are more secure lines of communication for classified information that do not involve email.

202 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 12:51:42pm

Yikes, there’s another one.

Charles Johnson
@charliebrown157

Retweets Democrats, looks OK, but Arizona? I reserve judgement.

203 Ace-o-aces  Mar 10, 2015 12:51:49pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chuck obviously doesn’t have a clue that there are more secure lines of communication for classified information that do not involve email.

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We are talking about a man who posts his plans to commit federal crimes on Twitter.

204 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 12:54:16pm

re: #203 Ace-o-aces

We are talking about a man who posts his plans to commit federal crimes on Twitter.

And yet Twitter allows him to continue shitting all over their virtual floor.

205 Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2015 12:55:12pm

re: #93 The Mother Of All Pies

Poors can’t afford to buy fresh meat and veggies and fill up on cheap processed crap. It’s not rocket science.

There’s the problem. It’s science so the wingnuts hate it and won’t use it.

206 sagehen  Mar 10, 2015 12:55:24pm

re: #23 lawhawk

47% doomed Romney.
47 Senate GOPers sign letter against Iran negotiations.

I smell conspiracy. ///////////

A Pomona College conspiracy.

pomona.edu

207 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 12:56:08pm

FFS

208 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 12:56:38pm
209 Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2015 12:56:49pm

re: #108 The Mother Of All Pies

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Don’t know about the American people, but you certainly are too stupid to understand email, Eric.

210 Dave In Austin  Mar 10, 2015 12:57:04pm

re: #197 Blind Frog Belly White

For what crime, exactly? That’s what I’ve never been able to get wingnuts to spell out.

I don’t think it makes a difference anymore. The douchebaggery all runs together these dayz. I can’t keep up. All I can see in my minds eye is Goober from Andy Griffith running around yelling “Citizens Arrest” at Barny……..

211 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 12:57:20pm

Of course he got everything wrong—he’s a warmongering idiot.

Tom Cotton Tries To Offer Alternative To Iran Talks, Gets Almost Everything Wrong

thinkprogress.org

After visiting Morning Joke, he went over to whore around with this defense industry lobbying group:

ndia.org

212 A Cranky One  Mar 10, 2015 12:58:32pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

I think Upchuck is conspiring to break the law. Can we perform a citizen’s arrest? ////

213 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 12:58:51pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

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Is he crowdfunding his crowdcriming?

214 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 12:59:14pm

re: #212 A Cranky One

I think Upchuck is conspiring to break the law. Can we perform a citizen’s arrest? ////

Is he a citizen? Where’s his birf firfifikate?

215 Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2015 12:59:39pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

Because you’re not a total drooling moron?

In this case I think ‘frothing’ would be a more accurate description than ‘drooling’.

216 Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2015 1:01:09pm

re: #147 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

And this guy is a fucking idiot:

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Bobby? Shut up!

217 blueraven  Mar 10, 2015 1:01:32pm
218 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 1:03:26pm
219 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 1:03:30pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chuck obviously doesn’t have a clue that there are more secure lines of communication for classified information that do not involve email.

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220 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 1:03:34pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

221 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 1:03:53pm

Of course Chuck Todd and GOP aren’t satisfied.
They clearly want a link to Benghazi where one does not exist.
Bar that, they’ll never be satisfied.

222 A Cranky One  Mar 10, 2015 1:06:14pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

Has anyone forwarded Upchuck’s tweets to the Secret Service?

223 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 1:06:33pm

re: #220 Kragar

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224 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 1:06:44pm

Except if she did indeed delete those emails, then what CCJ is doing is offering people $6,000 to go on a snipe hunt.

225 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 1:07:38pm

re: #224 Targetpractice

Except if she did indeed delete those emails, then what CCJ is doing is offering people $6,000 to go on a snipe hunt.

That’s a better approach when you’re an unemployed pariah.

226 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 1:07:39pm

Well Gomer, you’re not getting access to her server, you moron.

House investigative committee on Benghazi chair Trey Gowdy, R-SC, on Hillary Clinton’s press conference on her private emails: ‘… regrettably we are left with more questions than answers’; ‘Without access to Secretary Clinton’s personal server, there is no way for the State Department to know it has acquired all documents that should be made public’ - statement
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227 Zamb  Mar 10, 2015 1:09:11pm

re: #226 Justanotherhuman

Well Gomer, you’re not getting access to her server, you moron.

House investigative committee on Benghazi chair Trey Gowdy, R-SC, on Hillary Clinton’s press conference on her private emails: ‘… regrettably we are left with more questions than answers’; ‘Without access to Secretary Clinton’s personal server, there is no way for the State Department to know it has acquired all documents that should be made public’ - statement
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Where have I heard that before? Oh yea, after every single republican investigation into anything has gone no where.

228 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 1:09:25pm

re: #226 Justanotherhuman

Well Gomer, you’re not getting access to her server, you moron.

House investigative committee on Benghazi chair Trey Gowdy, R-SC, on Hillary Clinton’s press conference on her private emails: ‘… regrettably we are left with more questions than answers’; ‘Without access to Secretary Clinton’s personal server, there is no way for the State Department to know it has acquired all documents that should be made public’ - statement
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So yet another fishing expedition for Gowdy and friends. Yay.//

229 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 1:09:47pm

re: #226 Justanotherhuman

Well Gomer, you’re not getting access to her server, you moron.

House investigative committee on Benghazi chair Trey Gowdy, R-SC, on Hillary Clinton’s press conference on her private emails: ‘… regrettably we are left with more questions than answers’; ‘Without access to Secretary Clinton’s personal server, there is no way for the State Department to know it has acquired all documents that should be made public’ - statement
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Dear Trey,
Go fish.

230 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 1:10:25pm

re: #223 No Country For Old Haters

231 lawhawk  Mar 10, 2015 1:10:55pm

re: #224 Targetpractice

Here’s the thing - if these were emails to someone on a .gov account, the emails would be swept up in the inboxes and be subject to federal rules on maintaining information.

If they were sent to someone outside government, they wouldn’t be subject to retention rules, unless that org has retention rules about emails too (and quite a few do because of federal requirements).

But what CCJ is proposing doing is soliciting multiple federal felonies.

232 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 1:13:19pm

re: #231 lawhawk

Here’s the thing - if these were emails to someone on a .gov account, the emails would be swept up in the inboxes and be subject to federal rules on maintaining information.

If they were sent to someone outside government, they wouldn’t be subject to retention rules, unless that org has retention rules about emails too (and quite a few do because of federal requirements).

But what CCJ is proposing doing is soliciting multiple federal felonies.

A journalist would know that, but a wingnut blogger with the mind of a child, playing “journalist” would not.

233 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 1:14:41pm

re: #231 lawhawk

Technically, any hacking of a computer system is a Federal crime because telecommunications counts as inter-state commerce.

234 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 1:14:51pm

re: #226 Justanotherhuman

Well Gomer, you’re not getting access to her server, you moron.

House investigative committee on Benghazi chair Trey Gowdy, R-SC, on Hillary Clinton’s press conference on her private emails: ‘… regrettably we are left with more questions than answers’; ‘Without access to Secretary Clinton’s personal server, there is no way for the State Department to know it has acquired all documents that should be made public’ - statement
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Except for the pesky fact that the State Department does have access to the personal server.

235 Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2015 1:15:27pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Here’s another one they like to use but they like to say that the poor should just rely on charity rather than public aid. I’ve got nothing against donating to charities but wingnuts of course ignore the corruption that does exist within charities. Really, I think the modern liberal is someone who realizes like a responsible adult that sometimes are better off in the public sphere, somethings in the private, and some things in both. The modern conservative meanwhile thinks like a hardline Communist in that he thinks only one way works.

One of the biggest problems with charity is where the money goes.

Much of the ‘charity’ does nothing to help the poor on any level. A very large percentage of the money donated goes to operating costs and management salaries. Many charities have nothing to do with helping the poor in fact.

On top of that the poor and middle class donate more to charities than the wealthy and as the article points out the wealthy generally give ‘charity’ to things they can put their name on.

If charity met society’s needs properly the social safety net would never have been created, because there would be no need to create it.

236 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 10, 2015 1:15:49pm

re: #207 The Mother Of All Pies

If Clinton lied about having more than one mobile device, what else did she lie about? Sending classified info?

if reagan lied about the contras, what else did he lie about? knowing what the fuck he was doing?

if bush was too stupid to know there werent any wmds in iraq, just how little did he know about anything?

237 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 1:15:50pm
238 BeachDem  Mar 10, 2015 1:15:55pm

Tell that to David Kernell , the kid who guessed Palin’s password…

The incident was ultimately prosecuted in a U.S. federal court as four felony crimes punishable by up to 50 years in federal prison. The charges were three felonies: identity theft, wire fraud, and anticipatory obstruction of justice; and one optional as felony or misdemeanor: intentionally accessing an account without authorization. Kernell pleaded not guilty to all counts…

Kernell was sentenced on November 12, 2010, to one year plus a day in federal custody, followed by three years of supervised release.

en.wikipedia.org

239 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 1:16:21pm

re: #235 Romantic Heretic

One of the biggest problems with charity is where the money goes.

Much of the ‘charity’ does nothing to help the poor on any level. A very large percentage of the money donated goes to operating costs and management salaries. Many charities have nothing to do with helping the poor in fact.

On top of that the poor and middle class donate more to charities than the wealthy and as the article points out the wealthy generally give ‘charity’ to things they can put their name on.

If charity met society’s needs properly the social safety net would never have been created, because there would be no need to create it.

Great points.

240 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 10, 2015 1:16:22pm

re: #232 No Country For Old Haters

A journalist would know that, but a wingnut blogger with the mind of a child, playing “journalist” would not.

Oh, he knows it’s a crime. He admitted as much when said ‘There’s no way anyone would be prosecuted if you hacked Hillary’s emails now’. Presumably he now speaks for the Department of Justice.

241 blueraven  Mar 10, 2015 1:16:43pm

So Jake Tapper just had Karen Finney, and Kevin Madden (senior adviser to Mitt Romney) on his show. Not one word about Romney destroying all of his emails during his time as Governor.

Librul Media!!

242 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 1:17:00pm

re: #235 Romantic Heretic

One of the biggest problems with charity is where the money goes.

Much of the ‘charity’ does nothing to help the poor on any level. A very large percentage of the money donated goes to operating costs and management salaries. Many charities have nothing to do with helping the poor in fact.

On top of that the poor and middle class donate more to charities than the wealthy and as the article points out the wealthy generally give ‘charity’ to things they can put their name on.

If charity met society’s needs properly the social safety net would never have been created, because there would be no need to create it.

Let’s not forget that grifters have “charities” and live large by skimming off donations, like Pat Robertson.

243 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 1:17:10pm

re: #238 BeachDem

244 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 1:18:09pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not to mention she’s turned over 55K emails to the State Dept to peruse.

245 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 10, 2015 1:18:48pm

re: #243 Kragar

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isn’t this the guy who routinely offers to spill everything he has on somebody if you buy him a sandwich?

246 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 1:21:26pm

re: #245 Blind Frog Belly White

isn’t this the guy who routinely offers to spill everything he has on somebody if you buy him a sandwich?

More likely a beer, which he suggests you hold while he tweets another obscene scenario.

247 Mattand  Mar 10, 2015 1:21:31pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

gotnews.com will now over $6,000 for anyone who has the #ClintonEmails. Happy hunting.

He needs to spend some of that cash on a fucking proofreader.

248 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 10, 2015 1:21:42pm

as we get closer to the election, the lesbian rumors will start up again

249 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 1:22:06pm

There’s really only two crowds who are paying attention to this “scandal”: The Beltway crowd who never met a Clinton “scandal” that they weren’t prepared to milk down to the last lumpy dribble, and the wingnuts who remain absolutely convinced over 20 years later that Hillary and her husband are totally corrupt and power-hungry. Outside of those two crowds, most Americans don’t give a shit about this nontroversy.

250 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 1:22:35pm

re: #241 blueraven

So Jake Tapper just had Karen Finney, and Kevin Madden (senior adviser to Mitt Romney) on his show. Not one word about Romney destroying all of his emails during his time as Governor.

Librul Media!!

It’s like when Fox has Oliver North to talk about how Benghazi will be Obama’s Iran-Contra without any sense of irony. Note I’m not positive they’ve done that but they have had North on to act holier than thou about the Obama administrations scandals.

251 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 1:23:53pm

re: #248 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

as we get closer to the election, the lesbian rumors will start up again

That’s a given. The racism towards Obama will be replaced with homophobia and sexism to Hillary. The exposure of racism that we saw with Obama will similarly reveal how sexist the wingnuts are though honestly that’s become known these past years too given the total silence from the Republican Party on their pal Rush calling Sandra Fluke a slut.

252 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 1:23:55pm

lol…now Chuck is going on about Tom Cotton.

A sample:

253 Zamb  Mar 10, 2015 1:24:20pm

re: #249 Targetpractice

There’s really only two crowds who are paying attention to this “scandal”: The Beltway crowd who never met a Clinton “scandal” that they weren’t prepared to milk down to the last lumpy dribble, and the wingnuts who remain absolutely convinced over 20 years later that Hillary and her husband are totally corrupt and power-hungry. Outside of those two crowds, most Americans don’t give a shit about this nontroversy.

Well there are the “progressives” who are demanding we present them with a shiny new unicorn.

254 blueraven  Mar 10, 2015 1:24:53pm

It is obvious Hillary is being held to a different standard. Not sure if it is sexist or just because her last name is Clinton.

255 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 1:25:15pm

re: #238 BeachDem

256 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 1:25:44pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol…now Chuck is going on about Tom Cotton.

A sample:

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Does he just go after everyone because he’s that pathetic? I mean Cotton seems like a genuine weasel but going after the guy’s military record seems particularly sleazy. But that seems to be Chuckle’s speciality. Sleaze even to his own allies.

257 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 1:25:58pm

re: #255 No Country For Old Haters

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Chuck hasn’t the faintest clue about how email works (or pixels), much less how to hack anything.

258 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 1:26:13pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol…now Chuck is going on about Tom Cotton.

A sample:

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259 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 1:27:18pm

Meanwhile, Drudge has the subheadline: “Staff ‘Handpicked’ Questions At Press Conference… “

But, if you read the story (which RWNJs never do), the piece clearly states that her staff “hand picked which reporters got to ask questions throughout the press conference”.

In short, Fox and the twitter nuts are going to be claiming the former.

260 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 1:28:30pm

Why does Chuck strike me as the kind of guy who would sell his own mother down the river if he thought it would get him publicity? Oh right. The constant pathetic attention whoring and desire to spread his shit on everyone. How does he ever have time for his hot Asian wife!

261 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 1:29:41pm

re: #259 Dr. Matt

Picking reporters is pretty much de rigueur for all politicos.

262 Jenner7  Mar 10, 2015 1:30:11pm
263 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 1:30:19pm

re: #238 BeachDem

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Tell that to David Kernell , the kid who guessed Palin’s password…

The incident was ultimately prosecuted in a U.S. federal court as four felony crimes punishable by up to 50 years in federal prison. The charges were three felonies: identity theft, wire fraud, and anticipatory obstruction of justice; and one optional as felony or misdemeanor: intentionally accessing an account without authorization. Kernell pleaded not guilty to all counts…

Kernell was sentenced on November 12, 2010, to one year plus a day in federal custody, followed by three years of supervised release.

en.wikipedia.org

The bolded part alone shows that there’s something very wrong with your justice system. And that someone like Petraeus would get a slap on the wrist instead of going to prison drives the point home.

264 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 10, 2015 1:31:19pm

re: #253 Zamb

Well there are the “progressives” who are demanding we present them with a shiny new unicorn.

my firebagger buddies seem to be more inclined to vote for her out of sympathy for her being attacked by morons and liars

265 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 1:31:26pm

re: #262 Jenner7

That’s pretty sexist. Did he say the same thing about male politicians?

266 makeitstop  Mar 10, 2015 1:31:28pm

re: #262 Jenner7

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Well, he just tipped us off as to CNN’s lead story tonight.
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267 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 1:32:16pm

re: #261 Justanotherhuman

Picking reporters is pretty much de rigueur for all politicos.

That’s a bingo!

268 EPR-radar  Mar 10, 2015 1:32:43pm

re: #182 Blind Frog Belly White

If Hillary wins the 2016 election, it will be interesting to see whether the Right is more sexist than it is racist.

Since the GOP needs (at least some) women to vote for it in order to win, there is a reality-based limit to GOP misogyny that is not there in the case of racism.

However, the GOP presently has difficulty with reality-based considerations.

269 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 1:32:58pm

re: #266 makeitstop

Well, he just tipped us off as to CNN’s lead story tonight.
/(half)

The missing plane is hidden in Hillary’s wrinkles!!11!!

270 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 1:34:21pm

re: #268 EPR-radar

Since the GOP needs (at least some) women to vote for it in order to win, there is a reality-based limit to GOP misogyny that is not there in the case of racism.

However, the GOP presently has difficulty with reality-based considerations.

I don’t know. I think they’ve been walking hand and hand openly with misogyny for years. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a prominent Republican ever call out Rush for his disgusting slur that likens feminists to Nazis. They rely a lot on women who think they don’t need feminism or who buy the Democrats have the real war on women because they don’t believe in unrestricted gun ownership.

271 bratwurst  Mar 10, 2015 1:35:02pm
272 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 10, 2015 1:35:51pm

re: #268 EPR-radar

Since the GOP needs (at least some) women to vote for it in order to win, there is a reality-based limit to GOP misogyny that is not there in the case of racism.

However, the GOP presently has difficulty with reality-based considerations.

Well, they probably won’t ask for her Birth Certificate, but beyond that, and observing their treatment of women like Sandra Fluke, I think you’re being overly optimistic.

273 Zamb  Mar 10, 2015 1:35:55pm

re: #264 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

my firebagger buddies seem to be more inclined to vote for her out of sympathy for her being attacked by morons and liars

I just get really sick of people having to preface every statement about her with “I will hold my nose and vote for her” then shitting all over her as the worst democrat ever, worst campaigner ever, and basically a republican. Then demanding that the party present them with a better option. The party has a candidate, she polls well so far, has good name recognition, and can raise a ton of money, oh and does support most democratic positions.

274 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 1:37:48pm

re: #271 bratwurst

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I’d like to point out to the conservatives defending the frat’s language that they(conservatives) were the ones who opposed the Tinker students having the right to wear armbands to protest the Vietnam War. The frat members do have the right to use bigoted language, however they were also talking about there should be no n-words in their frat too.

275 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2015 1:38:19pm

re: #271 bratwurst

Yep, the university based the expulsions on violations of specific sections of the student conduct code that I linked to downstairs.
The code clearly spells out that immediate expulsion is an option for what they did.

276 Whack-A-Mole  Mar 10, 2015 1:38:44pm

re: #273 Zamb

Agree. She’s not a perfect candidate, but as we can see on the other side, there’s a hell of a lot worse out there.

277 Dr. Matt  Mar 10, 2015 1:39:47pm

But, but, but…..Hillary is so old and wrinkly!

278 Justanotherhuman  Mar 10, 2015 1:40:07pm

re: #271 bratwurst

Let them try to fight it, then. The Volokh Conspiracy is a mainly libertarian leaning blog written by law profs.

279 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 1:41:56pm

re: #277 Dr. Matt

[wingnut]But, but, but…..Hillary is so old and wrinkly! [wingnut]

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You should post a photo of Strom Thurmond too. The GOP was hellbent on him being the first Senator over 100. Really, I think there’s some fair gripes about Hillary out there but at the same time, the Republicans have no room to fucking talk about her age given their worship of Ronnie who probably had early onset Alzheimers during his presidency. I am not a huge Hillary Clinton fan but she unlike Ronnie and McCain too still has a sharp mind and doesn’t show any signs of losing it.

280 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 10, 2015 1:42:32pm

re: #273 Zamb

I just get really sick of people having to preface every statement about her with “I will hold my nose and vote for her” then shitting all over her as the worst democrat ever, worst campaigner ever, and basically a republican. Then demanding that the party present them with a better option. The party has a candidate, she polls well so far, has good name recognition, and can raise a ton of money, oh and does support most democratic positions.

you must know my friends! :-)

281 EPR-radar  Mar 10, 2015 1:44:02pm

re: #273 Zamb

I just get really sick of people having to preface every statement about her with “I will hold my nose and vote for her” then shitting all over her as the worst democrat ever, worst campaigner ever, and basically a republican. Then demanding that the party present them with a better option. The party has a candidate, she polls well so far, has good name recognition, and can raise a ton of money, oh and does support most democratic positions.

I remember viewing the (D) primary race in 2008 with near-total lack of interest. As far as I could tell at that time, Clinton and Obama were sufficiently similar on the issues that I couldn’t see the sense in getting worked up one way or the other. Either one would have been a massive improvement over the 8-year clusterfuck of the W Bush years.

282 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 10, 2015 1:44:28pm

re: #280 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

you must know my friends! :-)

or read some of the comment threads here.

283 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 1:47:18pm

I am not a huge Hillary Clinton fan I concede. I’ve explained my reasons before and don’t really need to rehash but even I feel that some of the party’s left is being unflexiable. One can’t help but to admire Senators Warren and Sanders but those two just aren’t presidential material. They’re just not and frankly some people are better legislators than they are executives. The converse is true too fwiw. I also while i am not a huge Clinton fan wouldn’t dismiss here as being close to a Republican either. Her healthcare plan in the 90’s was well to the left of what we call otday Obamacare. I just honestly have Clinton fatigue and I have Bush too. Now if she wins the nomination, I’ll vote for her and I’ll be damn happy she’s president over any of the Republicans. You won’t see me throwing a fit and threatening to vote Green.

284 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 1:57:42pm

re: #281 EPR-radar

I remember viewing the (D) primary race in 2008 with near-total lack of interest. As far as I could tell at that time, Clinton and Obama were sufficiently similar on the issues that I couldn’t see the sense in getting worked up one way or the other. Either one would have been a massive improvement over the 8-year clusterfuck of the W Bush years.

I wasn’t really interested but to be frank with you and everyone else, I really didn’t want to go Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton. I know that’s not fair to Hillary since she is her own individual but at the same time, you’re talking to a guy who until 2008 had no memories really of anyone other than a Bush or Clinton in the WH. Ideologically, Hillary and Obama are closer together than the left of the party would have told you in 2008 but I really think it meant something to get a fresh name and face out there. I understand the points in favor of Hillary and I’d even go far to say that some of Hillary’s inter-party detractors underestimate her as a candidate but at the same time, I do understand the wariness and I know that some will disagree and I respect their opinions. I’d honestly be more happy going forward with Hillary if I knew new leadership was coming in both the Senate and House. Reid and Pelosi have both been there too long IMO. It’s time for some new people. I just think it’s hard optics wise to sell yourself as the party of the future and new ideas with your major leaders over 70 and I know that’s not fair but there is something to that.

285 Decatur Deb  Mar 10, 2015 2:29:20pm

re: #278 Justanotherhuman

Let them try to fight it, then. The Volokh Conspiracy is a mainly libertarian leaning blog written by law profs.

The OU president said yesterday that he was checking carefully to see if individual punishment was warranted. Apparently his legal beagles got back to him. I’ve seen the OU student code of conduct cited as the enabling document.

286 BlueSpotinAL  Mar 10, 2015 2:30:54pm

re: #260 HappyWarrior

Why does Chuck strike me as the kind of guy who would sell his own mother down the river if he thought it would get him publicity? Oh right. The constant pathetic attention whoring and desire to spread his shit on everyone. How does he ever have time for his hot Asian wife!

I was thinking you meant Chuck Todd in the first sentence, at first.

287 BeachDem  Mar 10, 2015 4:19:26pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

The missing plane is hidden in Hillary’s wrinkles!!11!!

And we’re going to employ a drone, much like we did (endlessly) in Selma to find it!!11!!


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