Republicans Realizing They Made a Bad Mistake: That Iran Letter Was a “Light-Hearted, Cheeky” Joke

WAS JOKE! WHERE SENSE OF HUMOR, LIBS?
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And now that it’s starting to sink in how badly they screwed up, and how incredibly awful they made themselves look, the Republican Party is falling back on the time-honored “IT WAS A JOKE!” excuse.

Never fails. Except that it always fails.

Republican aides were taken aback by what they thought was a light-hearted attempt to signal to Iran and the public that Congress should have a role in the ongoing nuclear discussions. Two GOP aides separately described their letter as a “cheeky” reminder of the Congressional branch’s prerogatives.

“The administration has no sense of humor when it comes to how weakly they have been handling these negotiations,” said a top GOP Senate aide.

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623 comments
1 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 10, 2015 6:12:59pm

Yeah because Islamic extremist mullahs who hate the U.S. are totally known for their great sense of humor.

2 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 6:13:07pm

Rush Limbaugh School Of Apologetics.

3 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:14:04pm

They’re seriously claiming this was a joke? Riiiiiiiiight. Nice try guys. And here’s some humor for you, your party are a bunch of weasels and the last time your party had any morally redeeming qualities was in the Eisenhower years and even that’s a stretch given that many of you jumped on the McCarthy boat.

4 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:14:27pm

re: #2 Nyet

Rush Limbaugh School Of Apologetics.

Heh that’s what I said downstairs.

5 Great White Snark  Mar 10, 2015 6:14:46pm

Cheeky alright. Butt cheeky. (Image withheld)

6 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:14:55pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah because Islamic extremist mullahs who hate the U.S. are totally known for their great sense of humor.

Everyone knows Ayotollah Khameini does open mic in Tehran on Tuesdays.

7 thedopefishlives  Mar 10, 2015 6:15:20pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah because Islamic extremist mullahs who hate the U.S. are totally known for their great sense of humor.

So are conservative American Republicans, so of course they’ll get the joke.////

8 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 6:16:31pm

Idiots. Liars.

9 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:17:20pm

Here’s an idea for a joke. Maybe the Marines at the WH should point rifles at McConnell and the other 46 next time they visit the WH. Wouldn’t that be a jolly good laugh! And yes I’m being facetious and no I don’t want actual harm done to these guys but I am so sick of the fucking Republican Party doing all they can to ruin this president simply because they can’t handle the fact he’s been elected overwhelmingly in two elections and that they represent a party full of bigoted jackasses who still aren’t over the South losing the Civil War.

10 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 6:18:00pm

Can’t bear to put myself through the search for ‘Ole Country First McCain.

He called the Whitehouse hysterical or something like that.

11 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 6:19:16pm

bare v bear. I hate grammar.

12 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:19:42pm

re: #10 #FergusonFireside

Can’t bare to put myself through the search for ‘Ole Country First McCain.

He called the Whitehouse hysterical or something like that.

The last time that guy was country first was when he was in military uniform. He hasn’t been country first since he traded his Naval duds for Congressional duds. I don’t want to ever hear from conservatives and Republicans again about how “awful” Democrats treated President Bush when time and time again Congressional Republicans show their lack of respect for President Obama.

13 stpaulbear  Mar 10, 2015 6:20:44pm

Senate Republicans: Hey guys, watch this!

14 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 10, 2015 6:21:21pm

re: #13 stpaulbear

Senate Republicans: Hey guys, watch this!

Hold my beer!

/

15 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:22:18pm

Really Republicans does having a black president really bother you that much? Does having to hear Hail to the Chief being played for a dark skinned man enrage you that much? Does knowing that Barack Obama is only one of three presidents since WWII to get over 50% of the vote in both of his elections really infuriate you that much? Does knowing that Barack Obama will go down in history more admired and remembered than any of your leaders from this era? The last one should but you guys did this to yourself by trying to sabotage him for the sin of winning the 2008 presidential election and being a black Democrat with a Kenyan father.

16 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 6:22:43pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

The last time that guy was country first was when he was in military uniform. He hasn’t been country first since he traded his Naval duds for Congressional duds. I don’t want to ever hear from conservatives and Republicans again about how “awful” Democrats treated President Bush when time and time again Congressional Republicans show their lack of respect for President Obama.

When…..we get a GOP President, we will see. Seriously, I don’t think it will ever be this bad, but they will damn well cry and whine that it’s the same.

17 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 6:22:51pm

You almost have to admire the chutzpah it takes to try to float such a transparently ridiculous excuse.

18 stpaulbear  Mar 10, 2015 6:23:03pm

re: #11 #FergusonFireside

bare v bear. I hate grammar.

It’s important.

19 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:23:46pm

re: #16 #FergusonFireside

When…..we get a GOP President, we will see. Seriously, I don’t think it will ever be this bad, but they will damn well cry and whine that it’s the same.

They already try to claim that the Dems did the same to Bush which is utterly fucking laughable. I am totally expecting any mild criticism of the next GOP president to be treated with flip outs just like we saw with Bush following Clinton.

20 Skip Intro  Mar 10, 2015 6:24:29pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

You almost have to admire the chutzpah it takes to try to float such a transparently ridiculous excuse.

Limbaugh has been getting away with it for decades. It will certainly work on the flock. The TP lunatics are going to be pissed, though.

21 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 6:25:12pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

Bottom line, to the very small minded folks, Hussein as his middle name, sealed the deal.

22 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:25:49pm

re: #21 #FergusonFireside

Bottom line, to the very small minded folks, Hussein as his middle name, sealed the deal.

Yep. Fuckers.

23 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 6:25:52pm

re: #18 stpaulbear

It’s important.

Teach me

24 The War TARDIS  Mar 10, 2015 6:27:23pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Even their explanation is stupid.

If it was a joke, they were willing to threaten International Relations and National Security in order to make a punch line.

This shows they have absolutely no business controlling government.

25 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 6:27:27pm

“The administration has no sense of humor when it comes to how weakly they have been handling these negotiations,” he floated, anonymously.

26 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 6:27:28pm
27 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:28:31pm

I apologize if I was out of line even jokingly calling for the Marines at the WH to aim at the Republicans in the Senate but I mean it when I say I’m tired of how these guys treat our president. I’m tired of the lies, the excuses, and the lack of respect. President Obama may not always be right but he is our democratically elected president and it seems to me that too many Republicans can’t accept that fact so they think engaging in crap like this to undermine him is good and it’s just not. It’s disgusting and it’s even more pathetic given that they are the ones who constantly question President Obama’s own love of country yet you won’t hear a word of criticism and hell you’ll probably hear support from Rudy Giuliani on this.

28 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 6:28:34pm
“cheeky”

No, lower.

29 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:28:51pm

re: #24 The War TARDIS

Even their explanation is stupid.

If it was a joke, they were willing to threaten International Relations and National Security in order to make a punch line.

This shows they have absolutely no business controlling government.

I wouldn’t trust them running a kindercare.

30 A Cranky One  Mar 10, 2015 6:28:54pm

re: #18 stpaulbear

re: #11 #FergusonFireside

bare v bear. I hate grammar.

It’s important.

Only if one’s webcam is on. ;)

31 austin_blue  Mar 10, 2015 6:29:03pm

“Cheeky Joke” is when you post it but don’t actually sign and send it, you pack of idiots.

32 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:29:26pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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What’s the harm in jokes between brother theocrats huh!

33 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 10, 2015 6:30:33pm

Republicans think we’re as stupid as they are. It’s like dealing with young children.

34 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 6:30:55pm

When Jeff Flake thinks the letter was inappropriate, it’s gotta be off the charts.

35 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:32:59pm


That should say presidential election heh.

36 The War TARDIS  Mar 10, 2015 6:33:13pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

Knowing them, they would end up eating the kids or something.

37 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:33:30pm

re: #36 The War TARDIS

Knowing them, they would end up eating the kids or something.

Selling them. Gotta make a profit.//

38 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 6:35:23pm
39 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 6:36:04pm

re: #34 wrenchwench

When Jeff Flake thinks the letter was inappropriate, it’s gotta be off the charts.

Exactly! Jeff freaking Flake wouldn’t even co-sign this one. Red flags all over the field.

It’s the Tea Party’s influence again. The worst, most regressive movement in US politics in the last century.

40 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:37:48pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Exactly! Jeff freaking Flake wouldn’t even co-sign this one. Red flags all over the field.

It’s the Tea Party’s influence again. The worst, most regressive movement in US politics in the last century.

What was really bad about last year’s elections is our fellow Americans finally elected some of the TP nutcases that we had avoided electing to the Senate in 2010 and 2012 elections. I really hope the Dems get out the vote like crazy in 2016 but also 2018. The Republican Party has shown these past four years that they shouldn’t be trusted controlling either house of Congress.

41 A Cranky One  Mar 10, 2015 6:38:38pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

You almost have to admire the chutzpah it takes to try to float such a transparently ridiculous excuse.

Silly people. If you’d just watch Fox News you’d know the Republicans are the foreign policy experts! Oh course it was a joke. Even the Iranians treated it as a joke! They got it!!! LIBRULS got no sense of humor. ///////

42 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 6:39:03pm

re: #34 wrenchwench

When Jeff Flake thinks the letter was inappropriate, it’s gotta be off the charts.

I heard him on All Things Considered on the way home. Sane as shit.

My mouth was open.

They choose their battles, doesn’t make them more sane.

43 CuriousLurker  Mar 10, 2015 6:39:41pm

From the article:

“Before the letter, the national conversation was about Netanyahu’s speech and how Obama’s negotiations with Iran are leading to a terrible deal that could ultimately harm U.S. national security. Now, the Obama administration and its Capitol Hill partisans are cynically trying to push the conversation away from policy, and towards a deeply political pie fight over presidential and congressional prerogatives,” said a Senate Republican aide whose boss signed the letter.

So it’s Obama and his administration who are cynical partisans? Classic DARVO. Oy, the chutzpah!

44 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 6:40:08pm

re: #38 wrenchwench

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Oh thank DOG. He ran the place. Fucking piece of shit to make his living that way.

45 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 6:41:05pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Exactly! Jeff freaking Flake wouldn’t even co-sign this one. Red flags all over the field.

It’s the Tea Party’s influence again. The worst, most regressive movement in US politics in the last century.

Thanks, I forgot his middle name.

46 A Cranky One  Mar 10, 2015 6:42:22pm

re: #5 Great White Snark

Cheeky alright. Butt cheeky. (Image withheld)

Thanks.

47 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:42:39pm

re: #42 #FergusonFireside

I heard him on All Things Considered on the way home. Sane as shit.

My mouth was open.

They choose their battles, doesn’t make them more sane.

Wasn’t he also one of the few sane ones on Obama’s Cuban policy? I mean when a Flake is one of your sane ones. You got issues.

48 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:44:33pm

re: #43 CuriousLurker

From the article:

So it’s Obama and his administration who are cynical partisans? Classic DARVO. Oy, the chutzpah!

These guys wrote the book on cynical partisanship. Actually it’s more like an encyclopedia at this point. As I said above, I don’t want to hear these bastards complaining when they eventually get one of their own back in the WH and that person is inevitably criticized. Payback’s a bitch and I hope the Republicans know that. And no I am not calling for pointless investigations but I am for showing them at least once or twice that obstruction just because your base despises the president isn’t fun.

49 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 10, 2015 6:47:11pm

re: #45 wrenchwench

Thanks, I forgot his middle name.

that’s a coincidence, he has the same middle name as ronald reagan

50 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 6:47:35pm

re: #43 CuriousLurker

Maybe he had something to do with this.

51 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:47:43pm

re: #49 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

that’s a coincidence, he has the same middle name as ronald reagan

No Reagan’s middle name was Puppet.

52 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:48:33pm

re: #50 jaunte

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Maybe he had something to do with this.

Okay, it’s a little late but am I reading Kristol as someone actually being a VOR here? Though you’re right, he’s part of the problem too since he doesn’t have a day where he doesn’t agitate for war.

53 Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2015 6:49:16pm

Totally OT, but last night’s episode of Better Call Saul was just exceptional. Outstanding writing, on par with the best of Breaking Bad.

54 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 6:50:08pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

He has no actual plan.

55 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:50:48pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Totally OT, but last night’s episode of Better Call Saul was just exceptional. Outstanding writing, on par with the best of Breaking Bad.

Did you see Bob Odenkirk in Fargo last year? Really funny as the chief of Bemadji police. Also did a nice job as Will Forte’s brother in Nebraska which was my favorite Oscar best picture nominee last year.

56 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:51:04pm

re: #54 jaunte

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He has no actual plan.

He’s a professional second guesser.

57 CuriousLurker  Mar 10, 2015 6:51:04pm

re: #54 jaunte

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He has no actual plan.

And even when he does, he’s usually wrong.

58 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 6:51:31pm

Republicans admit they are a clown show.

59 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 6:51:51pm

re: #57 CuriousLurker

Combo of pressure, negotiations, sanctions, threat of force

Sounds like Cuba.

60 The War TARDIS  Mar 10, 2015 6:54:27pm

New Article.

The Muslim Brotherhood is injuring Libya.

61 Jenner7  Mar 10, 2015 6:54:40pm

Obama not only hates America, he also can’t take a joke.

//

62 wrenchwench  Mar 10, 2015 6:55:16pm

New followees:

63 b_sharp  Mar 10, 2015 6:55:58pm

Sky is a killing machine and she ran away.

64 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:56:05pm

re: #61 Jenner7

Obama not only hates America, he also can’t take a joke.

//

You know who hates jokes. Muslims except the ones we write of course.//

65 goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2015 6:56:35pm

re: #34 wrenchwench

When Jeff Flake thinks the letter was inappropriate, it’s gotta be off the charts.

Mark Kirk signed it. How to explain that, just fear of being primaried from the Right? Pretty craven shit right there.

66 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 6:58:30pm

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

Mark Kirk signed it. How to explain that, just fear of being primaried from the Right? Pretty craven shit right there.

You know saying that to me is pretty much an admission that these guys are cowards. I hope Kirk’s Democratic opponent brings it up against him in the election. It’s too bad that Kirk won’t be sharing a ballot with Obama because otherwise I think it would be a safe really bet to pronounce him toast. The guy isn’t a moderate at all.

67 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 6:59:22pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t he also one of the few sane ones on Obama’s Cuban policy? I mean when a Flake is one of your sane ones. You got issues.

He’s on the Foreign Relations Committee. He takes his job seriously.

Foreign, a-ok. Domestic, fuck you.

68 A Cranky One  Mar 10, 2015 6:59:56pm

re: #62 wrenchwench

How am I supposed to stay cranky when you keep posting stuff like that? Get off my lawn! ;)

69 RadicalModerate  Mar 10, 2015 7:00:38pm

Some new information regarding the two University of Oklahoma fraternity members who were expelled for their leading in the recently-published racist video.

Both are suddenly “very apologetic” for their role (which should be a surprise to no one). Also, both are from Dallas, and the ringleader was a graduate of an exclusive (and expensive) Christian private school.

Parker Rice, parents of Levi Pettit apologize for ‘horrible mistake’ made in OU SAE video

70 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 7:01:17pm
71 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 7:01:42pm

re: #62 wrenchwench

…

72 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 7:04:25pm

Ya’ll I gotta watch Saul.

See ya.

73 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:04:26pm

re: #69 RadicalModerate

Some new information regarding the two University of Oklahoma fraternity members who were expelled for their leading in the recently-published racist video.

Both are suddenly “very apologetic” for their role (which should be a surprise to no one). Also, both are from Dallas, and the ringleader was a graduate of an exclusive (and expensive) Christian private school.

Parker Rice, parents of Levi Pettit apologize for ‘horrible mistake’ made in OU SAE video

I will give the kid some credit for not pulling the usual “I’m sorry you were offended apology” that is pulled far too often but I really question the culture he was brought up in. And it really disturbs me to see people younger than me who have mindsets on race that would have disgusted my grandfather who would be 102 if he were still with us today.

74 ObserverArt  Mar 10, 2015 7:06:59pm

re: #58 The Mother Of All Pies

Republicans admit they are a clown show.

Clowns yes. It’s a terrible show.

And the whole world gets to see this one!

Who the hell is in charge of anything in the Grand ol’ Party? How does a new senator get to pull this shit, or did they hang it on Cotton since he is new? The whole thing was a botch from the concept, so WTF???

We are not getting the whole story. And one name has been kinda low in this deal. What was Mitch’s part? Did he encourage Cotton or set it up?

75 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:08:19pm

re: #74 ObserverArt

Clowns yes. It’s a terrible show.

And the whole world gets to see this one!

Woo the hell is in charge of anything in the Grand ol’ Party? How does a new senator get to pull this shit, or did they hang it on Cotton since he is new? The whole thing was a botch from the concept, so WTF???

We are not getting the whole story. And one name has been kinda low in this deal. What was Mitch’s part? Did he encourage Cotton or set it up?

I think they’re trying this it was a joke and when that fails, Cotton no pun intended will be hung up to dry since as you say he’s new. This obviously had Mitch “One term for Obama is my biggest goal” McConnell’s blessing though and he’s the one who should take the most shit for this.

76 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 10, 2015 7:09:15pm

re: #69 RadicalModerate

Some new information regarding the two University of Oklahoma fraternity members who were expelled for their leading in the recently-published racist video.

Both are suddenly “very apologetic” for their role (which should be a surprise to no one). Also, both are from Dallas, and the ringleader was a graduate of an exclusive (and expensive) Christian private school.

Parker Rice, parents of Levi Pettit apologize for ‘horrible mistake’ made in OU SAE video

The “horrible mistake” was that they allowed someone on the bus with a cell phone to record their song and turn it loose on the Internet

77 TedStriker  Mar 10, 2015 7:09:58pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

Everyone knows Ayotollah Khameini does open mic in Tehran on Tuesdays.

He totally rocks the casbah.

78 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:10:27pm

re: #77 TedStriker

He totally rocks the casbah.

The seven Fatwas you can’t say on television.
Sorry- Mr. Carlin bad memory.

79 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 7:10:51pm

re: #76 The Mother Of All Pies

Are they sorry for Did they apologize to anybody who might have been offended?

80 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:11:40pm

re: #79 Nyet

Are they sorry for Did the apologize to anybody who might have been offended?

It to his credit actually seems like it’s more than that but I can’t help but to feel that he’s merely sorry for being caught and exposed for being a hateful little dick.

81 BlueGrl21  Mar 10, 2015 7:11:59pm

A very dear, very emotional friend was freaking out over this on Facebook yesterday. I sent him the quote, “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” Art of War, I believe. May have been Napoleon.

This quote has gotten me through many, many things. It settled him. He is in his happy place now and is under the mistaken impression that I am wise. No. Just a Texas liberal who finds comfort in these moments.

82 bratwurst  Mar 10, 2015 7:12:38pm

Friends, I have been fairly busy here…so I am CERTAIN I must have misheard that Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham signed this letter. We have been informed right here on LGF that these men are “good eggs” who are moderate adults within the GOP.

Sure, they both had to act like flaming assholes during the election season. First, to vanquish Tea Party challengers who would have been SO MUCH WORSE for all fair minded Americans, then to defeat a pesky general election opponent (although…uh…I forget who Graham had to beat there).

In any case, now that the last election is far behind us and the next one is so far in the future, both of these great leaders of men have surely returned to their moderate centrist ways and would never have had anything to do with a letter like this.

Forgive me for wasting your time here. It is silly of me to assume either of these responsible politicians would have signed this letter. I obviously misheard.

83 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:12:42pm

re: #81 BlueGrl21

A very dear, very emotional friend was freaking out over this on Facebook yesterday. I sent him the quote, “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” Art of War, I believe. May have been Napoleon.

This quote has gotten me through many, many things. It settled him. He is in his happy place now and is under the mistaken impression that I am wise. No. Just a Texas liberal who finds comfort in these moments.

Could be Clausewitz. But in any case, I really like that too.

84 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:13:56pm

re: #82 bratwurst

Friends, I have been fairly busy here…so I am CERTAIN I must have misheard that Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham signed this letter. We have been informed right here on LGF that these men are “good eggs” who are moderate adults within the GOP.

Sure, they both had to act like flaming assholes during the election season. First, to vanquish Tea Party challengers who would have been SO MUCH WORSE for all fair minded Americans, then to defeat a pesky general election opponent (although…uh…I forget who Graham had to beat there).

In any case, now that the last election is far behind us and the next one is so far in the future, both of these great leaders of men have surely returned to their moderate centrist ways and would never have had anything to do with a letter like this.

Forgive me for wasting your time here. It is silly of me to assume either of these responsible politicians would have signed this letter. I obviously misheard.

John McCain is honorable and Brutus is too,

85 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:15:14pm

Okay just saw the video of the frat boys. What the fuck. I don’t care how drunk you are and believe me I know a thing or two about stupid shit done while drunk.

86 Belafon  Mar 10, 2015 7:15:49pm

re: #69 RadicalModerate

Some new information regarding the two University of Oklahoma fraternity members who were expelled for their leading in the recently-published racist video.

Both are suddenly “very apologetic” for their role (which should be a surprise to no one). Also, both are from Dallas, and the ringleader was a graduate of an exclusive (and expensive) Christian private school.

Parker Rice, parents of Levi Pettit apologize for ‘horrible mistake’ made in OU SAE video

My personal experience with most boys like this is that they need to be told not to do something. It’s like the study that showed boys who are told it’s bad to rape do it less than those that don’t. Yes, it’s somewhat obvious, if you’ve been taught to think about other people and their boundaries.

Had I been in charge of the school, I would have closed the frat, made the members move out, and conditioned their staying in the school on attending sensitivity classes and community service.

They’ll apologize, and probably mean it, but the only thing they will have learned is the abstract concept that they offended some people and that they shouldn’t get caught. It needs to be more personal. Otherwise, they can just end up at a school that accepts that behavior, especially since their parents can afford it.

87 TedStriker  Mar 10, 2015 7:16:36pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

You almost have to admire the chutzpah it takes to try to float such a transparently ridiculous excuse.

Especially after the tonguelashing that the Iranian foreign minister gave them about The 47 not even understanding their own Constitution; I thought that was hilarious.

88 Timothy Watson  Mar 10, 2015 7:18:20pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

and Brutus is too,

To be fair, Brutus was.

89 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 7:18:49pm
90 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:19:33pm

re: #88 Timothy Watson

To be fair, Brutus was.

Heh Brutus wouldn’t have picked Palin for a running mate and then claimed he was country first for sure.

91 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 7:19:57pm
92 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:20:03pm

re: #89 jaunte

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They’re drunk. Mitch had too much bourbon and Boehner’s always drunk.

93 freetoken  Mar 10, 2015 7:20:27pm

Underneath all the shiny polish, this GOP letter is about the war-complex insiders of the GOP figuring out how to exploit the magical-thinking of the religious-right GOP base, who believe that Israel is a magical place, to achieve their more-money-for-war desires.

94 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:20:37pm

re: #91 Kragar

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Yeah it’s a joke guys but if you don’t support it, you’re not a real conservative.//

95 Dark_Falcon  Mar 10, 2015 7:22:33pm

re: #60 The War TARDIS

New Article.

The Muslim Brotherhood is injuring Libya.

It’s a very good post, too. Read it, folks.

96 ObserverArt  Mar 10, 2015 7:23:39pm

re: #82 bratwurst

Friends, I have been fairly busy here…so I am CERTAIN I must have misheard that Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham signed this letter. We have been informed right here on LGF that these men are “good eggs” who are moderate adults within the GOP.

Sure, they both had to act like flaming assholes during the election season. First, to vanquish Tea Party challengers who would have been SO MUCH WORSE for all fair minded Americans, then to defeat a pesky general election opponent (although…uh…I forget who Graham had to beat there).

In any case, now that the last election is far behind us and the next one is so far in the future, both of these great leaders of men have surely returned to their moderate centrist ways and would never have had anything to do with a letter like this.

Forgive me for wasting your time here. It is silly of me to assume either of these responsible politicians would have signed this letter. I obviously misheard.

It does have a certain smell to it. And both are laying low.

Looks like Sen. Bob Corker, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee didn’t sign and many are hiding behind him in media reports. He has to excuse his buddies.

Freaking idiots. History will have a special place for these bumbling fools. Statesmen…

I know Senator Portman from Ohio signed it. He’s a bum. The Dude is so bad he has been transparent as our one Senator. Such a contrast with our other senator Sherrod Brown.

98 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:25:07pm

re: #96 ObserverArt

It does have a certain smell to it. And both are laying low.

Looks like Sen. Bob Corker, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee didn’t sign and many are hiding behind him in media reports. He has to excuse his buddies.

Freaking idiots. History will have a special place for these bumbling fools. Statesmen…

I know Senator Portman from Ohio signed it. He’s a bum. The Dude is so bad he has been transparent as our one Senator. Such a contrast with our other senator Sherrod Brown.

it’s always interested me how states like yours can have such a contrast in Senators. Iowa in the past with Tom Harkin and Chuck Grassey comes to mind too. Portman is another so called moderate too.

99 Varek Raith  Mar 10, 2015 7:25:38pm

For real?
O_o

100 TedStriker  Mar 10, 2015 7:26:08pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Totally OT, but last night’s episode of Better Call Saul was just exceptional. Outstanding writing, on par with the best of Breaking Bad.

So far, it seems that Gilligan (and Odenkirk) has captured lightning in a bottle twice.

101 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:27:04pm

re: #99 Varek Raith

For real?
O_o

For real. But all bets are off if they have Clint Eastwood ranting at an invisible Obama in a chair at their convention. I think that would be a bridge too far for them. As would Rudy Giuliani stating that President Obama doesn’t love America.

102 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 7:28:38pm

re: #97 Nyet

It won’t be done, but there are 115K sigs.

File charges against the 47 U.S. Senators in violation of The Logan Act in attempting to undermine a nuclear agreement.

It will rate an official response though

103 Chez Ko Pe  Mar 10, 2015 7:29:16pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

And no I am not calling for pointless investigations

It does make one wonder, though, why former car thief Darrell Issa (A.K.A. The Crimson Executioner) isn’t making mad doody in his Pampers over this.

104 BlueGrl21  Mar 10, 2015 7:30:00pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Okay just saw the video of the frat boys. What the fuck. I don’t care how drunk you are and believe me I know a thing or two about stupid shit done while drunk.

Jim DeMint, Pat Robertson, Ross Perot, Haley Barbour, Pete Dominici, all SAEs. It’s still very much a Southern fraternity.

Pat Robertson is enough for eternal fraternal damnation.

105 Chez Ko Pe  Mar 10, 2015 7:31:23pm

re: #54 jaunte

Dear Mr. Kristol: That’s exactly what we had going on in pre-Cheney Iraq—and yet it seemed unsatisfactory to you and your ilk.

106 Skip Intro  Mar 10, 2015 7:31:49pm
Rep. Jared Polis refers to Sen. Tom Cotton as ‘Tehran Tom’

I’ve edited out the moonie times editorializing in the headline.

washingtontimes.com

107 team_fukit  Mar 10, 2015 7:31:54pm

re: #97 Nyet

Logan Act only applies to private citizens. Congress has mucked up foreign policy in the past and will continue to do so

108 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:33:11pm

re: #104 BlueGrl21

Jim DeMint, Pat Robertson, Ross Perot, Haley Barbour, Pete Dominici, all SAEs. It’s still very much a Southern fraternity.

Pat Robertson is enough for eternal fraternal damnation.

I think this is one of those times you can tell a lot about a fraternity by who its members are. My grandfather’s frat has some really interesting members. Everyone from Eugene McCarthy to Keegan Michael Key.

109 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:33:39pm

re: #107 team_fukit

Logan Act only applies to private citizens. Congress has mucked up foreign policy in the past and will continue to do so

Yeah they’re making a mistake with that. This is crap but it doesn’t seem to be a Logan Act violation.

110 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:34:58pm

re: #106 Skip Intro

I’ve edited out the moonie times editorializing in the headline.

washingtontimes.com

I notice they’re using the fact that Cotton’s an Army veteran. That never stopped the Moonie times for questioning the patriotism of Democratic veterans who questioned Bush’s foreign policies.

111 Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2015 7:35:48pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

I notice they’re using the fact that Cotton’s an Army veteran. That never stopped the Moonie times for questioning the patriotism of Democratic veterans who questioned Bush’s foreign policies.

No shit, “Swiftboat Vets” anyone?

112 Great White Snark  Mar 10, 2015 7:36:04pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Seems everbody gettin a lil carried away. Kind of a mad moment in the politisphere.

113 D_Red  Mar 10, 2015 7:36:54pm

It is astonishing how wrong Bill Kristol is and how consistently he’s wrong, and yet people still pay him money to tell them his opinion about things.

114 ObserverArt  Mar 10, 2015 7:37:22pm

re: #103 Chez Ko Pe

It does make one wonder, though, why former car thief Darrell Issa (A.K.A. The Crimson Executioner) isn’t making mad doody in his Pampers over this.

Hasn’t he been muted a bit by the special Trey Gowdy inquisition? And then in congress, I think Jason Chaffetz (Utah) is sorta getting the spotlight now over Issa too.

Aww…who knows. I guess every in the GOP gets to get in their licks?

115 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:37:30pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

No shit, “Swiftboat Vets” anyone?

I’ll never forgive the Republican Party for the way they mocked Kerry’s service. The purple heart bandaids and the ads. Agh. That’s what a pathetic party does though. They question the patriotism of a man who was willing to give his life for his country because they can’t handle the fact that Kerry spoke out against Vietnam upon returning home. Tough shit. Kerry’s service in Vietnam was honorable and mocking his Purple Hearts was proof of the true contempt for our veterans that they really have.

116 Dark_Falcon  Mar 10, 2015 7:37:37pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Yeah they’re making a mistake with that. This is crap but it doesn’t seem to be a Logan Act violation.

Indeed. I freely admit that the Iran letter was the wrong way to try to ensure Obama sent any treaty to the Senate, but it is still protected speech for the people who signed it.

117 Great White Snark  Mar 10, 2015 7:38:03pm

It’s a moment where everything needs to be set to 11.

118 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:38:05pm

re: #112 Great White Snark

Seems everbody gettin a lil carried away. Kind of a mad moment in the politisphere.

Misunderstanding if you ask me. They’re right to be pissed off but they should be looking at what the law says.

119 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:40:28pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

Indeed. I freely admit that the Iran letter was the wrong way to try to ensure Obama sent any treaty to the Senate, but it is still protected speech for the people who signed it.

It being protected speech all the same, it’s still pathetic and if they use the Logan Act petition to distract from that, it shows what a bunch of weasels the 47 are.

120 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 7:40:43pm

God damn it CSI!

They need to get info off a laptop, but the DEA says they want to seize it. The IT guy says he needs 2 minutes to clone the drive. Right, sure, whatever.

Back at the lab, they’re trying to access the info, but they only get 2 chances before the drive wipes itself.

Or, they could use their miracle 2 minute disk cloner and just keep trying till they get in.

121 BlueGrl21  Mar 10, 2015 7:41:03pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

I think this is one of those times you can tell a lot about a fraternity by who its members are. My grandfather’s frat has some really interesting members. Everyone from Eugene McCarthy to Keegan Michael Key.

Yes. Because I’m me, I researched the top fraternities in the country over the last 2 days, looking for patterns in famous alumni. All have their share of characters but none has the Southern Conservative flavor of SAE. I started seeing some Democrats in their lists, then saw dates and realized they were Dixiecrats.

The husband pledged a frat in 1991, walked out when they wanted him to chant the n-word during hazing. He told them to fuck off and quit.

122 Dark_Falcon  Mar 10, 2015 7:41:08pm

re: #114 ObserverArt

Hasn’t he been muted a bit by the special Trey Gowdy inquisition? And then in congress, I think Jason Chaffetz (Utah) is sorta getting the spotlight now over Issa too.

Aww…who knows. I guess every in the GOP gets to get in their licks?

Issa isn’t in charge of the House Committee on Government Reform anymore, and new chairman Chaffetz is more interested in fixing broken parts of the government than screaming.

There’s also the fact that the House doesn’t have a role in ratifying treaties and if the House made too much noise about an Iran deal the Senate would vote to ratify it simply to put the lower house in its place.

123 Great White Snark  Mar 10, 2015 7:42:02pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Yeah we get that in the heat of the moments. Gun control. election law etc.

124 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 7:42:54pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Misunderstanding if you ask me. They’re right to be pissed off but they should be looking at what the law says.

Well, I signed the petition. I disagree that the Logan Act doesn’t apply to them. They’re not in the Executive Branch, so that makes them just as much “private citizens” as anybody else.

If 47 Democratic senators had done the same thing during the Smirking Chimp’s runup to the Iraqi war, they’d all be in jail still—if not Gitmo.

125 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:43:43pm

re: #123 Great White Snark

Yeah we get that in the heat of the moments. Gun control. election law etc.

Yeah we don’t think. Understandable for the private citizen who may not understand the law and its nuances. I understand why people are pissed though. I know I am because this is an act of continued crappy behavior by the Senate R’s.

126 ObserverArt  Mar 10, 2015 7:43:53pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

Indeed. I freely admit that the Iran letter was the wrong way to try to ensure Obama sent any treaty to the Senate, but it is still protected speech for the people who signed it.

Since you worded it the way you did, then you can explain where you heard the administration wasn’t going to present any treaty to congress, correct?

127 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 7:44:18pm

re: #124 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, I signed the petition. I disagree that the Logan Act doesn’t apply to them. They’re not in the Executive Branch, so that makes them just as much “private citizens” as anybody else.

If 47 Democratic senators had done the same thing during the Smirking Chimp’s runup to the Iraqi war, they’d all be in jail still—if not Gitmo.

They overstepped their authority, plain and simple.

128 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:45:15pm

re: #124 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, I signed the petition. I disagree that the Logan Act doesn’t apply to them. They’re not in the Executive Branch, so that makes them just as much “private citizens” as anybody else.

If 47 Democratic senators had done the same thing during the Smirking Chimp’s runup to the Iraqi war, they’d all be in jail still—if not Gitmo.

Hell we saw how mere criticism of Bush was treated. I don’t even want to think what would have happened if Tom Daschle let some freshman write a letter to Saddam Hussein’s government in the lead up to Iraq War. The Republican party is very fond of the mantra “Do as we say, not as we do.”

129 BlueGrl21  Mar 10, 2015 7:46:29pm

re: #127 Kragar

No sense of humor on you, sir.

A mullah, a rabbi, and 47 Senators walk into a bar…

130 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 7:46:53pm
131 ObserverArt  Mar 10, 2015 7:47:28pm

Fading fast…see you all later.

132 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:47:28pm

re: #129 BlueGrl21

No sense of humor on you, sir.

A mullah, a rabbi, and 47 Senators walk into a bar…

And Tom Cotton buys Ayatollah Khameini a shot of Southern Comfort and announces a toast to “Screwing Barack Obama at every turn” and the rabbi says I just wanted a drink.

133 jaunte  Mar 10, 2015 7:47:52pm

Sorry, klutzy tonight.

134 team_fukit  Mar 10, 2015 7:49:05pm

I posted on another thread about this, but Congress has a long tradition of meddling in foreign affairs. Richard Nixon (ex-officio even) held secret negotiations with the Viet Cong before the 1968 election, George McGovern traveled to Cuba under the embargo. The Senate is understood to be a representative of the US government just as much as the State Department or the President. It’s just considered politically polite to allow State to run the helm, and to present a unified front

135 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:49:31pm

I think it’s the disrespect of the office at its core that bothers me most but it’s also remembering how people were treated by this same party when they dared to say things like invading Iraq wasn’t such a good idea. And yeah that still does bother me. The whole smear campaign of Iraq war opponents by the Bush WH and their allies in Congress and the media.

136 Kragar  Mar 10, 2015 7:49:54pm

re: #129 BlueGrl21

No sense of humor on you, sir.

A mullah, a rabbi, and 47 Senators walk into a bar…

The one good thing about the 47?

They can all drive to work in one car each morning.

137 Eventual Carrion  Mar 10, 2015 7:50:01pm

re: #77 TedStriker

He totally rocks the casbah.

Opening act at the Chuckles Casbah.

138 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:50:49pm

re: #134 team_fukit

I posted on another thread about this, but Congress has a long tradition of meddling in foreign affairs. Richard Nixon held secret negotiations with the Viet Cong before the 1968 election, George McGovern traveled to Cuba under the embargo. The Senate is understood to be a representative of the US government just as much as the State Department or the President. It’s just considered politically polite to allow State to run the helm, and to present a unified front

I’m pretty sure what Nixon did was in fact illegal. He was a private citizen in the ‘68 election. It’s really not the legality though that bothers me.

139 Great White Snark  Mar 10, 2015 7:51:06pm

re: #134 team_fukit

Pendulum swings… Read Imperial Cruise. James Bradley. Executive play whilst the Sec State was dead and no replacement yet appointed.

140 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 7:51:24pm

re: #136 Kragar

The one good thing about the 47?

They can all drive to work in one car each morning.

Well… about that…

pbfcomics.com

141 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:51:37pm

re: #136 Kragar

The one good thing about the 47?

They can all drive to work in one car each morning.

That wouldn’t be the same car that drives Christie, Walker, Bush, and Huckabee would it?

142 WhatEVs  Mar 10, 2015 7:52:34pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

Really Republicans does having a black president really bother you that much? Does having to hear Hail to the Chief being played for a dark skinned man enrage you that much? Does knowing that Barack Obama is only one of three presidents since WWII to get over 50% of the vote in both of his elections really infuriate you that much? Does knowing that Barack Obama will go down in history more admired and remembered than any of your leaders from this era? The last one should but you guys did this to yourself by trying to sabotage him for the sin of winning the 2008 presidential election and being a black Democrat with a Kenyan father.

I keep saying this, and I’ll say it again. The key issue is Obama’s a democrat. Any Dem would get the same treatment. The bonus hate is he’s black. With Hillary, it’s that she’s a she. Kerry was a wimp ass, undeserved Purple Heart recipient. The hate will differ but all Dems will suffer it.

143 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:53:50pm

re: #142 WhatEVs

I keep saying this, and I’ll say it again. The key issue is Obama’s a democrat. Any Dem would get the same treatment. The bonus hate is he’s black. With Hillary, it’s that she’s a she. Kerry was a wimp ass, undeserved Purple Heart recipient. The hate will differ but all Dems will suffer it.

I agree but it’s been especially bad because he’s black is my point. And Clinton suffered it too. I still remember Clinton being called a murderer, a rapist(back then Republicans actually had a problem with rape though), etc.

144 Drive By Commenter  Mar 10, 2015 7:54:01pm

re: #97 Nyet

It won’t be done, but there are 115K sigs.

File charges against the 47 U.S. Senators in violation of The Logan Act in attempting to undermine a nuclear agreement.

It doesn’t have to lead to prosecution of these flaming A holes, but it should put them on notice. Maybe more people start to pay attention. They talk about personal responsibility? Owe up to this, and at the very least realize the path the GOP is on is destructive and anti’American. Nah. Fuck America.

145 Dark_Falcon  Mar 10, 2015 7:54:02pm

re: #124 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Baloney, and there’s no reason to insult George W. Bush in such an ugly fashion.

146 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 10, 2015 7:54:15pm
what they thought was a light-hearted attempt to signal to Iran and the public that Congress should have a role in the ongoing nuclear discussions.

Who the fuck takes a “light-hearted” approach to nuclear negotiations?

Nevermind. SMDH.

147 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 7:56:52pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

Baloney, and there’s no reason to insult George W. Bush in such an ugly fashion.

Bush started a war that has cost around 200000 lives. Calling him names on the internet is the kindest thing one can do.

148 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:57:37pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

Baloney, and there’s no reason to insult George W. Bush in such an ugly fashion.

No more an ugly fashion in how your party’s Congressional members refuse to treat Obama as the actual legitimate head of state.

149 team_fukit  Mar 10, 2015 7:57:37pm

re: #142 WhatEVs

I do think that Obama’s blackness inspired a new wave of hate, but I agree that his “liberalness” is what is at issue most. His blackness symbolizes his liberalness. The way conservatives just spit the word “liberal,” I call it “anti-Demitism.”

150 WhatEVs  Mar 10, 2015 7:57:57pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

I agree but it’s been especially bad because he’s black is my point. And Clinton suffered it too. I still remember Clinton being called a murderer, a rapist(back then Republicans actually had a problem with rape though), etc.

Until which time they get smacked down hard, the hate will go on. 30 years of Limbaugh and Fox, et al, has brainwashed far too many Americans. When we look at each other as sick and evil (which, of late, I do too), how far before you want to kill those who oppose you (thankfully, I’m not there. Yet.)?

151 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 7:58:40pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

Baloney, and there’s no reason to insult George W. Bush in such an ugly fashion.

You don’t want me to tell you how I really feel about him. That’s not 1% of what he deserves.

152 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 7:58:55pm

re: #147 Nyet

Bush started a war that has cost around 200000 lives. Calling him names on the internet is the kindest thing one can do.

There’s also that a lot of lives were ruined because of it. Paralyzed, PTSD, etc.
I’ll call him President Bush but I don’t have a problem with people who want to call him otherwise. That war ruined a lot of lives.

153 CuriousLurker  Mar 10, 2015 8:00:20pm

Okay, a feline overlord is in my lap making it nearly impossible to type. I can take a hint—later, lizards.

154 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 10, 2015 8:00:26pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

I apologize if I was out of line even jokingly calling for the Marines at the WH to aim at the Republicans in the Senate but I mean it when I say I’m tired of how these guys treat our president. I’m tired of the lies, the excuses, and the lack of respect. President Obama may not always be right but he is our democratically elected president and it seems to me that too many Republicans can’t accept that fact so they think engaging in crap like this to undermine him is good and it’s just not. It’s disgusting and it’s even more pathetic given that they are the ones who constantly question President Obama’s own love of country yet you won’t hear a word of criticism and hell you’ll probably hear support from Rudy Giuliani on this.

I wish someone would smack these assholes upside the head and set them straight on the operation of a democracy.

Mister we could use a man like Billy Sherman again!
155 WhatEVs  Mar 10, 2015 8:00:30pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

Baloney, and there’s no reason to insult George W. Bush in such an ugly fashion.

For what? Speaking the truth?

How about ignoring the warnings pre 9/11? Is that good enough?

156 Drive By Commenter  Mar 10, 2015 8:01:08pm

Good night all. I’m off to chase tomorrow in my dreams. Had my fill of today.

157 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 8:01:09pm

re: #150 WhatEVs

Until which time they get smacked down hard, the hate will go on. 30 years of Limbaugh and Fox, et al, has brainwashed far too many Americans. When we look at each other as sick and evil (which, of late, I do too), how far before you want to kill those who oppose you (thankfully, I’m not there. Yet.)?

I don’t know what will solve it. I really want to give people the bod but I am finding it increasingly harder to do it with people on the right. Some of the stuff you hear these people say about Obama and I mean it’s real legitimately racist shit. I mean there’s policy disagreement but there’s also things like racial epithets, claiming he only is where he is because of affirmative action, dismissing him as a community organizer, etc.,

158 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 8:01:20pm

re: #153 CuriousLurker

Let her type!

159 scottslemmons  Mar 10, 2015 8:01:46pm

First thing I thought when I saw the headline: …

160 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 10, 2015 8:02:12pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

Baloney, and there’s no reason to insult George W. Bush in such an ugly fashion.

Oh, look, children, the Magical Balance Fairy makes its appearance once again.

STFU, there is no equivalent in the history of GWB.

161 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 8:02:21pm

I used to follow The Smirking Chimp (No more caricature of Bush in the logo, I see) until they got too firebaggery after Obama got elected and didn’t immediately declare Nirvana

162 WhatEVs  Mar 10, 2015 8:02:30pm

re: #153 CuriousLurker

Okay, a feline overlord is in my lap making it nearly impossible to type. I can take a hint—later, lizards.

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Night night. Sweet dreams.

163 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 8:03:16pm

re: #161 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Gah, Blumenthal.

164 Dark_Falcon  Mar 10, 2015 8:04:18pm

re: #160 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Cursing me out just gets you a downding.

Good Night.

165 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 8:04:53pm

Better Caul Saul.

…

166 Great White Snark  Mar 10, 2015 8:05:31pm

re: #153 CuriousLurker

Okay, a feline overlord is in my lap making it nearly impossible to type. I can take a hint—later, lizards.

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*looks at cat laying on cellphone*

I think our cats are BFFs.

167 WhatEVs  Mar 10, 2015 8:05:44pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

I don’t know what will solve it. I really want to give people the bod but I am finding it increasingly harder to do it with people on the right. Some of the stuff you hear these people say about Obama and I mean it’s real legitimately racist shit. I mean there’s policy disagreement but there’s also things like racial epithets, claiming he only is where he is because of affirmative action, dismissing him as a community organizer, etc.,

Always. It’s horrifying and embarrassing. But no matter who, any dem will be deligitimized. The how will differ. But it will go on.

168 BlueGrl21  Mar 10, 2015 8:07:42pm

re: #166 Great White Snark

*looks at cat laying on cellphone*

I think our cats are BFFs.

* Looks at cat curled up on my feet *

Add another feline. Sleep well, all.

169 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 8:08:04pm

re: #165 #FergusonFireside

I actually love that song.

170 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 8:09:05pm

re: #167 WhatEVs

Always. It’s horrifying and embarrassing. But no matter who, any dem will be deligitimized. The how will differ. But it will go on.

This country becoming more racially diverse will do us a lot of good. The days where the GOP can just grovel to that small but big enough sub-section of angry and fuck you I got mine whites to win elections is running to a close and I couldn’t be happier. I can’t wait for them to see the electoral consequences of treating Hispanic immigrants like pondscum. And I hope my niece who on her mother’s side is the first American born person plays a big part in that.

171 Nyet  Mar 10, 2015 8:10:54pm
172 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 8:12:25pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

I don’t know what will solve it. I really want to give people the bod but I am finding it increasingly harder to do it with people on the right. Some of the stuff you hear these people say about Obama and I mean it’s real legitimately racist shit. I mean there’s policy disagreement but there’s also things like racial epithets, claiming he only is where he is because of affirmative action, dismissing him as a community organizer, etc.,

It’s multilayer racism. Remember Bill Clinton was “The First Black President”. I guess because he was a southerner who wasn’t a flaming racist? Because if blacks weren’t allowed to vote he wouldn’t have won? I dunno, but they’ve been practicing up for this since the Willie Horton era.

173 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 8:12:44pm

re: #171 Nyet

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Where’s the lone George Carlin fan who prayed to Joe Pesci to help him win? Heh I love that though.

174 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 8:14:02pm

re: #172 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s multilayer racism. Remember Bill Clinton was “The First Black President”. I guess because he was a southerner who wasn’t a flaming racist? Because if blacks weren’t allowed to vote he wouldn’t have won? I dunno, but they’ve been practicing up for this since the Willie Horton era.

I thought the “first black president” was a title mostly used by Clinton’s admirers. I really don’t remember the Clinton campaigns that well though sorry. I was only 9 when he was re-elected. But you’re right though, this has been a long time coming.

175 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 10, 2015 8:15:12pm

The only joke here is the GOP. Fuck them. Now, into more important things. Some Amsterdam busking!

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176 HappyWarrior  Mar 10, 2015 8:15:46pm

re: #175 GlutenFreeJesus

The only joke here is the GOP. Fuck them. Now, into more important things. Some Amsterdam busking!

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Music after a long day of GOP politics is always welcome. Anyone hear any good bands lately?

177 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 10, 2015 8:23:37pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Music after a long day of GOP politics is always welcome. Anyone hear any good bands lately?

Stumbled on a hard rock group called Halestorm. Interesting stuff with a great hard singing young woman leading them. Unapologetic about it.

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178 WhatEVs  Mar 10, 2015 8:24:26pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

This country becoming more racially diverse will do us a lot of good. The days where the GOP can just grovel to that small but big enough sub-section of angry and fuck you I got mine whites to win elections is running to a close and I couldn’t be happier. I can’t wait for them to see the electoral consequences of treating Hispanic immigrants like pondscum. And I hope my niece who on her mother’s side is the first American born person plays a big part in that.

Let’s see how voter caging, ID laws, etc., affect elections.

Did you see what Colin Powell said about the GOP today? I’m on my phone or I’d link it. pretty powerful stuff.

179 Great White Snark  Mar 10, 2015 8:29:03pm

re: #177 William Barnett-Lewis

Been a fan. Actually the wife and I laughingly chose one of her tunes for “our song” last summer.

Video

180 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 10, 2015 8:32:53pm

re: #179 Great White Snark

Been a fan. Actually the wife and I laughingly chose one of her tunes for “our song” last summer.

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Yeah, that’s another really fun track from them. I’m looking forward to their new album in April.

181 The War TARDIS  Mar 10, 2015 8:35:58pm

Sorry for being annoying, but I do hope you read my page.

Libya is near and dear to my heart, and I loathe the Muslim Brotherhood for hijacking the nation, and plunging it back into war. They should be crushed.

182 #FergusonFireside  Mar 10, 2015 8:36:12pm

re: #178 WhatEVs

Let’s see how voter caging, ID laws, etc., affect elections.

Did you see what Colin Powell said about the GOP today? I’m on my phone or I’d link it. pretty powerful stuff.

Want the linky! I’ll search.

OT, I love pulling out my ipod. The Police now.

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183 teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2015 8:42:27pm
184 BeachDem  Mar 10, 2015 9:24:49pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

I think it’s the disrespect of the office at its core that bothers me most but it’s also remembering how people were treated by this same party when they dared to say things like invading Iraq wasn’t such a good idea. And yeah that still does bother me. The whole smear campaign of Iraq war opponents by the Bush WH and their allies in Congress and the media.

And because you and I usually use the Dixie Chicks to illustrate that point…

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185 Mattand  Mar 10, 2015 9:32:43pm

Just checking in since this afternoon.

A joke. Seriously.

God, we are so fucked as a country. These morons are not going to be happy until we’re at war with every Muslim country in the world.

186 Belafon  Mar 10, 2015 9:35:08pm

re: #185 Mattand

Just checking in since this afternoon.

A joke. Seriously.

God, we are so fucked as a country. These morons are not going to be happy until we’re at war with every Muslim country in the world.

Actually, they’re not going to be happy until the top .1% own 99% of the world. If it takes a couple of wars for that to happen, so be it.

187 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 10, 2015 9:39:43pm

re: #185 Mattand

Just checking in since this afternoon.

A joke. Seriously.

God, we are so fucked as a country. These morons are not going to be happy until we’re at war with every Muslim country in the world.

Have they forgiven Turkey yet for the crime of having their aid ship attacked on the high seas by Israeli pirates? ‘Cause the wingnuts were pretty bellicose about that at the time. Or is it just that they can only concentrate on one thing at any given moment?

188 BeachDem  Mar 10, 2015 10:06:57pm

Oklahoma has really been showing its ass this week.

House Bill 1125 would bar county clerks from issuing marriage licenses in the wake of the federal court ruling late last year striking down a state ban on same-sex marriages…

If the Senate passes the bill, only “an ordained or authorized preacher or minister of the Gospel, priest or other ecclesiastical dignitary of any denomination” would be allowed to issue “certificates of marriage” after presiding over a ceremony.

Unfucking believable.

Of course, the wingnuts can’t tie their own shoes without tripping over their feet.

State House Democrats opposing HB 1125 also noted that it would effectively legalize same-sex unions anyway, since the measure does not specifically define marriage as being between a man and a woman.

Heh.

rawstory.com

189 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 10:11:28pm

re: #188 BeachDem

Oklahoma has really been showing its ass this week.

House Bill 1125 would bar county clerks from issuing marriage licenses in the wake of the federal court ruling late last year striking down a state ban on same-sex marriages…

If the Senate passes the bill, only “an ordained or authorized preacher or minister of the Gospel, priest or other ecclesiastical dignitary of any denomination” would be allowed to issue “certificates of marriage” after presiding over a ceremony.

Unfucking believable.

Of course, the wingnuts can’t tie their own shoes without tripping over their feet.

State House Democrats opposing HB 1125 also noted that it would effectively legalize same-sex unions anyway, since the measure does not specifically define marriage as being between a man and a woman.

Heh.

rawstory.com

That legislation would also run afoul of the Establishment Clause, plus at least a century or more of legal recognition of civil marriages by a JP or similar secualr officiant.

190 BeachDem  Mar 10, 2015 10:21:51pm

re: #189 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

That legislation would also run afoul of the Establishment Clause, plus at least a century or more of legal recognition of civil marriages by a JP or similar secualr officiant.

Of course you’re right, and most sentient beings could see that, but we’re talking about Oklahoma, home of climate change denying, snowball throwing, “not meant to be a true statement” James Inhofe (whose middle name is Mountain, just for the record) and lots of other crazy right-wing loons.

191 BeachDem  Mar 10, 2015 10:32:17pm
192 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 10, 2015 10:50:59pm

re: #190 BeachDem

Of course you’re right, and most sentient beings could see that, but we’re talking about Oklahoma, home of climate change denying, snowball throwing, “not meant to be a true statement” James Inhofe (whose middle name is Mountain, just for the record) and lots of other crazy right-wing loons.

Point taken and conceded.

193 Jenner7  Mar 10, 2015 11:21:58pm

Oh look, it’s Jon Stewart playing the “both sides do it” card.

Apparently, Pelosi going to Assad in 2007 (with Bush’s knowledge and who didn’t speak contrary to US policy) is the same thing as 47 Senators (without Obama’s knowledge) writing Iran to directly undermine US policy. Oh, and guess what? A day later, Congressmen Darrell Issa met with Assad.

Really Jon? I’m really getting sick of your show. If I wanted to watch “both sides do it” bullshit, I’d turn on CNN.

I miss Colbert.

194 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 10, 2015 11:36:11pm

Imagine if Democrats wrote a letter to Gorbachev telling him to not bargain with Reagan.

Yeah. This is the exact same thing. Except the GOP was stupid enough to do something so treasonous.

195 freetoken  Mar 10, 2015 11:42:56pm

MP3 Audio

196 Amory Blaine  Mar 11, 2015 12:02:24am

AFL-CIO sues state, Scott Walker, over right-to-work law

The Wisconsin AFL-CIO and two other labor organizations filed suit Tuesday against the state’s newly enacted right-to-work law, claiming it is unconstitutional because it compels unions to act on behalf of workers no longer required by the law to pay union dues as a condition of employment, providing an unfair benefit.

The arrangement is an unconstitutional transfer of property from the unions to non-members who no longer have to pay dues to receive services that unions are required to provide under federal labor laws, according to the lawsuit.

The suit is the first to be filed since Gov. Scott Walker signed right-to-work into law on Monday after the bill was fast-tracked through the Republican-controlled Legislature last week.

197 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 12:20:26am

re: #196 Amory Blaine

Fast-tracked is the euphemism for railroaded, or short for “passed with as little discussion or deliberation as possible so as to score political points and/or fulfill a political agenda.”

198 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 12:23:58am

I read a piece at salon a few days ago about the libertarian nightmare that is San Pedro Sula in Honduras. Someone needs to do a similar piece on the state of Wisconsin.

salon.com

199 KiTA  Mar 11, 2015 12:30:15am

What a really horrible day at work. The bus broke down on the way making me 30 minutes late, I apparently forgot some paperwork yesterday which was a “big deal (tm),” and my supervisor had a nice little breakdown over everything.

200 freetoken  Mar 11, 2015 1:05:26am

MP3 Audio

201 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 1:17:42am

re: #199 KiTA

What a really horrible day at work. The bus broke down on the way making me 30 minutes late, I apparently forgot some paperwork yesterday which was a “big deal (tm),” and my supervisor had a nice little breakdown over everything.

Have a cuppa, and take it easy.

202 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 11, 2015 1:42:12am

re: #146 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Who the fuck takes a “light-hearted” approach to nuclear negotiations?

I know…tell them WE BEGIN BOMBING IN FIVE MINUTES…BOMB, BOMB IRAN!!! That”ll really crack everyone up!!!

203 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 1:50:34am
How could O’Reilly be in two places at the same time, one may ask? In his 2012 account, the inventive O’Reilly may have been emulating the time-traveling investigator Jake Epping, who went back in time to solve the JFK assassination in Stephen King’s 2011 best-selling book 11/22/63. Epping in that book used time travel to drop in on George de Mohrenschildt before he killed himself. But of course Epping’s feat was pure fiction.

newsweek.com

King’s book is great, no wonder Brother Billo was impressed. /

204 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 2:05:10am

Boy, there are some pretty stupid moonbats out there:

I will vote for Sanders if I can (0+ / 0-)
or i will sit out the fucking puppet show like most sane Americans have for a while now. We might not be ready to revolt in this country, but eventually we will have few enough people voting that a non-D or R corporate enabler can win.

The definition of insanity is not a strategy for change. Ever.

by Miss my village on Wed Mar 11, 2015 at 01:44:03 AM PDT

It calls itself sane!

If I have to: (1+ / 0-)
Vote for:

- neocon Foreign Policy,
- neo-liberal economic Policy,

Under the mask of a Democratic Party Cantidate,

I’ll sit this one out, again.

If the ” ideals” of this country are to be destroyed yet again, I prefer the culprits have an R after their name.

“We know something about billionaire consumption,” Piketty observed, “but it is hard to measure some of it. Some billionaires are consuming politicians, others consume reporters, and some consume academics.”

by JayFarquharson on Wed Mar 11, 2015 at 01:23:57 AM PDT

205 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 2:16:22am

dailytexanonline.com

Although a viral photo of a flyer listing alleged Texas Fiji pledge rules resurfaced on news and social media websites after the fraternity hosted a party guests said had a “border patrol” theme last month, no source has ever been able to confirm the authenticity of the eight-year-old image.
The flyer is titled “Fiji Pledge Rules — Confidential,” and lists rules including “no interracial dating” and “no Mexicans.”
Though the post has sparked outrage in recent weeks, its source was actually a 2007 post on Flickr, a photo sharing website.
Again, the authenticity of the flyer has never been verified.

All one has to do nowadays is type something in Word, print it out, make a photo: voila, it’s undeniable proof!

206 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 11, 2015 2:23:22am

re: #205 Nyet

dailytexanonline.com

All one has to do nowadays is type something in Word, print it out, make a photo: voila, it’s undeniable proof!

Makes journalism a lot easier and cheaper.

And besides, now thanks to Twitter and Instagram, every single college party is now fully documented and accessible to the public!!! The onion had this nailed years ago

208 Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2015 3:16:46am
209 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 3:41:19am

re: #146 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Who the fuck takes a “light-hearted” approach to nuclear negotiations?

Nevermind. SMDH.

In true conservative form, they were trying to imitate Dr Strangelove, and failed at humor.

I wonder if ALEC wrote the letter.

210 freetoken  Mar 11, 2015 3:43:02am

MP3 Audio

211 TFinSF  Mar 11, 2015 4:03:01am

There isn’t a single Republican in office who is not a complete waste of oxygen. Anyone who continues to vote for these pathogens is equally vile.

212 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 4:13:38am

1. The suspects in Nemtsov’s murder have allegedly told the human rights activists that they were tortured and forced to confess.

2. The liberal Novaya Gazeta doesn’t doubt the Chechen version per se, but says that Dadayev certainly wasn’t the one who organized the murder. Acc. to their own sources it was certain “Ruslan” (his surname was then revealed by others) who, once again, is connected to Ramzan Kadyrov and Adam Delimkhanov.

3. Meanwhile, Kadyrov’s aide Shaa Turlayev is now wanted by the federal authorities. Or better: wanted again.

Currently he is suspected of ordering the hit on the mayor of Khasavyurt in 2012.

But he was already wanted in 2010 in connection with the assassination attempt on Isa Yamadayev, when the failed killer testified that the attempt was organized by Turlayev, and personally ordered by Kadyrov himself in presence of Delimkhanov. The court accepted the part about Turlayev but (haha) also said that the hit was ordered by “unknown persons”. At that time the Chechen govt. said that Turlayev was peacefully residing in the republic and wasn’t hiding from anyone. Which kinda characterizes the whole situation.

Turlayev was suspected by the Vienna police in murder of Kadyrov’s former bodyguard and then enemy Umar Israilov - Turlayev’s documents were found in the killers’ car, he met with the killers in Austria shortly before the murder.

Anywhere you see “Turlayev organized this or that”, you can assume “Kadyrov did it”.

213 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 4:18:33am

Flashback: newsweek.com

Your fans want you to run as Russia’s next president—who would you like to see as president in 2012?

My idol, [Vladimir] Putin. I want him to be the president as long as he lives. I love him very much, as a man loves a man. He is a man of his word; he brought peace to Chechnya. We were in the hands of bandits, and the alcoholic [Boris] Yeltsin bombed us. Those who criticize Putin are not human, they are my personal enemies. As long as Putin backs me up, I can do everything—Allahu akbar!

214 urbanmeemaw  Mar 11, 2015 4:20:42am

re: #128 HappyWarrior

Hell we saw how mere criticism of Bush was treated. I don’t even want to think what would have happened if Tom Daschle let some freshman write a letter to Saddam Hussein’s government in the lead up to Iraq War. The Republican party is very fond of the mantra “Do as we say, not as we do.”

And the mainslime media would be covering 24x7. I noticed that the Today show is interviewing Rand Paul about (wait for it) HILARY EMAIL SCANDAL! Not a word about the 47 traitors. I flipped to my local Fox affiliate.

215 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 4:22:17am

Honestly, who really believes that shit “excuse”?

So, now they’re gonna concentrate on the ebil Hillary Clinton emails, and Gowdy wants the Clinton server. And of course, Morning Joke is all over this—and Ron Fournier remains a horrible person, insinuating that HC has a lot to answer to Dems for. They can all go soak their heads if they think a person should turn over personal emails to someone like the Republicans or anyone else, for that matter, who has an ax to grind.

Gowdy won’t get it because he’s not entitled to it. Way to overstep your bounds, Republicans—in both instances.

Gotta get my blood pressure down. : )

BBL.

216 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 4:26:39am

Before I go, whatever happened to trust in this country? I’d say the Republicans have made a complete hash of it because they’re not public servants, they’ve turned into the Inquisition when it comes to those they think are vulnerable.

Fight, Dems, fight, if that’s what it takes. And it’s a horrible day in the US when we perceive an opposing party as the “enemy”.

But this is what the Republicans are turning politics into because of their own faulty ideology that has no respect for minorities, women and others who don’t share the same reactionary views as they do. Goebbels couldn’t do a better job in this country than the Rs.

217 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 4:33:14am

In his 2007 book Nemtsov described how he first met Kadyrov. It was in 2002 in Gudermes, at the Congress of the Chechen people, where Nemtsov was invited by Akhmad Kadyrov, Ramzan’s father. During the Congress Nemtsov said some unpopular things, like that Chechnya doesn’t need a president, but rather a strong parliament.

As I left the room, a man with whitish eyes approached me and said that for such speeches I should be killed. I asked: “Who are you?”. He took out and showed me an ID of an FSB lt.-colonel or colonel. It was Ramzan Kadyrov. I can’t say that I was very frightened, because immediately the Chechens around me started saying that Ramzan was joking. But I saw no jokes in his eyes. In his eyes I saw hatred.

218 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 5:02:17am

Here’s going to be latest wingnut rebuttal to the #47Traitors

More info: nytimes.com

219 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Mar 11, 2015 5:07:20am

re: #87 TedStriker

From an Iranian who obtained a serious US educational background no less. It’s mind-boggling how the American People can elect representatives like this whose only goal in pure politics. Nothing else. Their entire governing policy is one of destruction.

They wish to destroy everything prior to 1860. Civil Rights Law. Minimum Wage. Child labor. Environmental regulation. Education standards. Finance Law. Bank regulations. They simply want them all gone and at any cost. Then on top of it they want to add their own 20th Century fantasy dystopian Ayn Rand/Mad Max/Gunz4 All Race War/ End-Times Rapture toxic waste to the mix.

No wonder the rest of the world is eager to step away from US dominance. They look at these clowns and the American People who elect them and wonder at what point did we go insane?

220 Lidane  Mar 11, 2015 5:08:45am

re: #218 Dr. Matt

Yeah, I’ve seen that idiocy thrown around on other sites.

221 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 5:21:28am

re: #220 Lidane

Yeah, I’ve seen that idiocy thrown around on other sites.

Translation: “Both sides do it”.

222 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 5:21:36am

I just want to reiterate how much I dislike Mitch McConnell. I just heard him say, in no uncertain terms, that Congress can’t trust President Obama to reach an appropriate deal with Iran, so that’s why the 47 wrote the letter.

Do they really think Obama is doing the negotiations solo? Nevermind, I know the answer.

223 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 5:31:49am

Hah, love this.

Idiot Fairtaxer is promoting my meme that Fairtaxers are too stupid to chew their own food==>

224 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 5:38:16am

I just whipped this up.

Remember how it turned out for the 300?
225 Iwouldprefernotto  Mar 11, 2015 5:39:04am

re: #224 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I just whipped this up.

Image: Remember how it turned out for the 300?

It’s just a flesh wound.

226 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 5:40:03am

re: #225 Iwouldprefernotto

It’s just a flesh wound.

One of the Spartan defensive movies was the turtleshell, IIRC.

227 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 5:41:11am

re: #219 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Destruction of govt is very popular these days among certain elements, from RWNJs to libertarians. A pox on all their houses.

228 Iwouldprefernotto  Mar 11, 2015 5:42:09am

re: #226 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

One of the Spartan defensive moves was the turtleshell mcconnell, IIRC.

229 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 5:42:34am

re: #227 Justanotherhuman

Destruction of govt is very popular these days among certain elements, from RWNJs to libertarians. A pox on all their houses.

I think they’re just trying to find some way to put off filing their income taxes.

230 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 5:44:40am

re: #227 Justanotherhuman

Destruction of govt is very popular these days among certain elements, from RWNJs to libertarians. A pox on all their houses.

Their goal is to destroy the Constitution. Nothing less, because they don’t really respect it, in spite of RWNJs to the contrary, waving those flags and chanting their bullshit.

231 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 5:47:42am

re: #229 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

No, I’m convinced they want to destroy it, rather than presenting amendments they know would never see the light of day that would repeal everything that smacks the least bit of progress for minorities and women.

They’re not going to win. We’ve gotten this far as a country, and we’ll go further. We just have to do a better job of educating voters of what’s in their best interests and challenging the RW bullshit aggressively.

232 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 5:49:56am

And fuck Russia, too.

Russia has rights to deploy nuclear weapons in Crimea, Russian foreign ministry says - Interfax via @Reuters
end of alert

233 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 5:56:05am

re: #231 Justanotherhuman

I was being facetious, of course. But I’m not sure they want to completely destroy government. They want to feather their nests, so they’ll keep around the parts that are personally useful to them, and trash the rest. A kleptocracy, basically.

re: #232 Justanotherhuman

If Putin thinks NATO, the EU and the former Soviet republics would welcome nukes in their backyard, he’s fucking crazy. He’s trying for a rerun of the Cuban missile crisis.

234 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 5:56:43am

Another twist in the Tony Robinson killing…

Wisconsin police shooting: young witnesses denied access to lawyers, friends say

Concern that Javier and Anthony Limon had ‘undue influence’ placed on them to answer questions over Tony Robinson’s death without legal representation

theguardian.com

235 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 5:57:35am

re: #233 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Crimea is mighty close to the Arab states and Turkey, too. Not sure they’d be happy about nukes in Crimea much, either.

236 aagcobb  Mar 11, 2015 5:58:53am

re: #222 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

I just want to reiterate how much I dislike Mitch McConnell. I just heard him say, in no uncertain terms, that Congress can’t trust President Obama to reach an appropriate deal with Iran, so that’s why the 47 wrote the letter.

Do they really think Obama is doing the negotiations solo? Nevermind, I know the answer.

Obummer is a secular mooslum Kenyan comminist who’s going to give Iran bombs so they can nuke Israel!

237 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 5:59:10am

re: #235 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Russia certainly isn’t shy about “sword rattling”. Same as it ever was in the USSR.

But that’s a KGB man for you.

238 Romantic Heretic  Mar 11, 2015 6:02:53am

re: #226 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

One of the Spartan defensive movies was the turtleshell, IIRC.

Think that was a Roman maneuver.

The phalanx didn’t really allow for much in the way of tactics. The closest they came was at The Battle of Leuctra.

239 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 6:06:54am

re: #237 Justanotherhuman

Russia certainly isn’t shy about “sword rattling”. Same as it ever was in the USSR.

But that’s a KGB man for you.

Khrushchev was more sane than Putin is, I’ll wager.

240 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 6:09:45am

re: #233 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

If Putin thinks NATO, the EU and the former Soviet republics would welcome nukes in their backyard, he’s fucking crazy. He’s trying for a rerun of the Cuban missile crisis.

And who is gonna stop him? Riiight…

241 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 6:10:45am

re: #238 Romantic Heretic

Think that was a Roman maneuver.

The phalanx didn’t really allow for much in the way of tactics. The closest they came was at The Battle of Leuctra.

Well, that’s what I get for trusting the historical accuracy of a movie.

UPDATE: I googled further. It seems the Greeks may have occasionally used the chelon formation (turtle shell), as seen in 300. It was more common in Roman times.

242 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 6:16:51am
The reason: The Harrises believed the girls were possessed by demons and could communicate telepathically, Goldsborough said. Harris and his wife once hired specialists to perform an “exorcism” on the two sisters while she waited outside the house with the boys, she said.

arktimes.com

243 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 11, 2015 6:17:22am

re: #239 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Khrushchev was more sane than Putin is, I’ll wager.

Khrushchev was at Stalingrad. He knew, first hand, how harsh even a necessary war was. The KGB agent had a different kind of history, alas. Pity there won’t be someone like the youthful leader of the Moscow CP to follow on after Putin like there was after Yuri Andropov (Chernenko was an abberation as Yuri wanted Gorbachev to succeed him. )

244 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 6:18:33am

re: #243 William Barnett-Lewis

Khrushchev was at Stalingrad. He knew, first hand, how harsh even a necessary war was. The KGB agent had a different kind of history, alas. Pity there won’t be someone like the youthful leader of the Moscow CP to follow on after Putin like there was after Yuri Andropov (Chernenko was an abberation as Yuri wanted Gorbachev to succeed him. )

Purely theoretically, that was Medvedev. Alas, that was not meant to be. And he’s a wimp anyway.

245 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 11, 2015 6:19:15am

re: #244 Nyet

Purely theoretically, that was Medvedev. Alas, that was not meant to be. And he’s a wimp anyway.

Heh. There is much truth there…

246 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 6:19:44am

If e.g. Putin croaks today, Medvedev automatically becomes the Russian president. The question is only whether he would be able to hold on to the post.

247 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 6:20:01am

re: #242 Nyet

arktimes.com

Ho-lee shit! These people are wackjobs.

248 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 6:20:49am

re: #246 Nyet

If e.g. Putin croaks today, Medvedev automatically becomes the Russian president. The question is only whether he would be able to hold on to the post.

He’d need to wear a kevlar vest under his suit 24/7.

249 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 6:21:17am

It’s no joke that some of those elected to Congress are the same RWNJ constituents that they’re listening to now.

This is why we shouldn’t elect members of the “mob” that would destroy us as a country.

The Repubs, of course, have allowed some to slip through the cracks—those who would follow the worst of the mob and refuse to actually lead in a statesman-like manner. If you refuse to represent certain constituents who have the same Constitutional rights as any other person, then you should never hold office.

When someone running for office says they’re “just like” me, I run from that candidate as fast as I can. I want them to be better than me in education, experience, temperament.

We should expect the best of the best who listen to us, not just someone who reflects our views, but make decisions based on facts and the law, and if the law is wrong, try to change it, not subvert it with the kind of bullshit moves the Republicans are making. It’s why we have a Constitution, which elected officials swear to uphold, and why I condemn certain of those who are attempting to act outside of it.

You work with the Constitution you have, not the one you “pray” or wish for.

250 freetoken  Mar 11, 2015 6:21:19am

National Geographic sold its soul to the devil when they got in bed with Murdoch in order to raise funds for the (joint effort) National Geographic Channel, and now the devil is collecting his dues:

Nat Geo’s new ‘Killing Jesus’ microsite takes the crucifixion interactive

National Geographic Channel is banking on “Killing Jesus,” its docudrama adaptation of Bill O’Reilly’s bestselling book. To promote the movie’s debut on March 29, the network has unveiled an immersive, interactive website supporting its latest documentary about the life of Jesus, “Killing Jesus.”

Designed by digital agency Mullen, the website builds on the “greatest story ever told” by providing an interactive experience with multiple points of view on the life of Jesus. Evoking the Rashomon Effect, it lets visitors view the story from three different perspectives, each posing the question of whether Jesus was the son of God, son of man or a just a threat to Roman rule.

[…]

Nat Geo is also running a campaign called “Killing With Kindness,” inspired by Jesus’ encouragement for people to be kind to each other in which it is highlighting organizations that help to spread kindness in the world with the hashtag #killingwithkindness.

NatGeo is now (and has been ever since they hooked up with Murdoch) in the Je$u$ business, in order to make customers of the incurably magical-thinking Americans.

251 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 6:21:40am

re: #247 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Ho-lee shit! These people are wackjobs.

The thing is, there is no objective way to differentiate between crackpot and non-crackpot religious beliefs. There are simply beliefs that are more conventional or less conventional for a given society. No offense, but that’s just it.

252 freetoken  Mar 11, 2015 6:23:26am

re: #251 Nyet

There are simply beliefs that are more conventional or less conventional for a given society.

And some are more profitable than others.

Just ask NatGeo.

253 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 6:24:17am

re: #250 freetoken

CNN’s Jesus documentary is bad enough, what with all the “relics” taken seriously (the Shroud of Turin, really?), but it’s head above fucking Bill O’Reilly. Who the fuck he thinks he is, a scholar?

254 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 11, 2015 6:24:32am

re: #248 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He’d need to wear a kevlar vest under his suit 24/7.

Kevlar? Pifft. He’d need to find Bilbo’s old mithril chain shirt to have any hope…

255 freetoken  Mar 11, 2015 6:26:08am

re: #253 Nyet

CNN’s Jesus documentary is bad enough, what with all the “relics” taken seriously (the Shroud of Turin, really?), but it’s head above fucking Bill O’Reilly. Who the fuck he thinks he is, a scholar?

In the world of the blind, the one eye man is king.

256 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 6:26:23am

re: #254 William Barnett-Lewis

Kevlar? Pifft. He’d need to find Bilbo’s old mithril chain shirt to have any hope…

That would depend on why Poo would croak. If it were by consensus of the elites, with M as the designated puppet leader, then he would have a chance.

257 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 6:26:38am

re: #247 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

After that kind of insanity, their own children should probably be removed.

Gawd, I feel so bad for those 3 little girls, esp Mary, who is probably scarred for life.

258 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 6:26:57am

Saturday is Pi Day!

259 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 11, 2015 6:29:08am

re: #250 freetoken

National Geographic sold its soul to the devil when they got in bed with Murdoch in order to raise funds for the (joint effort) National Geographic Channel, and now the devil is collecting his dues:

Nat Geo’s new ‘Killing Jesus’ microsite takes the crucifixion interactive

NatGeo is now (and has been ever since they hooked up with Murdoch) in the Je$u$ business, in order to make customers of the incurably magical-thinking Americans.

And yet this month’s cover story of the National Geographic Magazine slams the war on science. They were always more friendly to religion than you’d apparently care for. Not every person with religious faith hates science - my human evolution textbook is on the same shelf as my preferred edition of the christian bible. This is not my style but I’ll take it if it keeps the articles talking the truth about climate change and evolution coming.

260 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 6:29:23am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

After that kind of insanity, their own children should probably be removed.

Gawd, I feel so bad for those 3 little girls, esp Mary, who is probably scarred for life.

The Harrises must get parenting advice from Pat Robertson.

261 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 6:29:39am

re: #251 Nyet

The thing is, there is no objective way to differentiate between crackpot and non-crackpot religious beliefs. There are simply beliefs that are more conventional or less conventional for a given society. No offense, but that’s just it.

No offense taken, but I disagree. Adoptions are held to a somewhat stricter scale of woo-woo than natural birth. An impartial state agency would be within its rights to remove the children and rescind the adoption if the caseworkers believed the welfare of the children were in danger. They might be willing to give the exorcism a pass (this being fundie land), but the telepathy would probably not get a pass.

The key word is “impartial.” Such is not the case here.

262 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 11, 2015 6:30:30am

re: #256 Nyet

That would depend on why Poo would croak. If it were by consensus of the elites, with M as the designated puppet leader, then he would have a chance.

Point taken.

263 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 11, 2015 6:30:52am

re: #258 The Mother Of All Pies

Saturday is Pi Day!

The ultimate Pi day at that - 3.1415…

264 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 6:32:05am

re: #261 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Why in hell would anyone give “exorcism” a pass? It’s a medieval, ignorant practice and no child should ever have to experience it.

Children are not “possessed” and they’re not possessions, either.

265 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 6:33:41am

re: #261 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That would only mean that they don’t find these beliefs conventional enough.

266 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 6:35:27am

re: #264 Justanotherhuman

Why in hell would anyone give “exorcism” a pass? It’s a medieval, ignorant practice and no child should ever have to experience it.

Children are not “possessed” and they’re not possessions, either.

It’s Arkansas. I’m assuming they’d handle such cases with kid gloves, given the fundamentalism there.

If I were the caseworker, I’d tell the kids to pack their bags as soon as I heard the words “exorcism” and “telepathic messages.”

267 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 6:35:57am

re: #264 Justanotherhuman

Why in hell would anyone give “exorcism” a pass? It’s a medieval, ignorant practice and no child should ever have to experience it.

Because people are free to hold unfounded religious beliefs.

268 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 6:38:58am

re: #265 Nyet

That would only mean that they don’t find these beliefs conventional enough.

You are being overly generous. We’re not talking about adults dealing with adults, but adults potentially abusing children. I don’t give a rat’s ass whether some people consider exorcism or telepathy valid, and others don’t. In an adoption case, there is no benefit of the doubt given adoptive parents. Or there shouldn’t be, I should say.

WARNING: I was once married to someone who believed in these things. It would be best not to test my patience.

269 Sionainn  Mar 11, 2015 6:40:01am

re: #267 Nyet

Because people are free to hold unfounded religious beliefs.

When my husband and I went through classes in order to “foster to adopt,” there were a whole lot of things that were off limits legally that were perfectly legal for biological parents to do to their children. There is indeed a higher standard for adoption, at least in my state of Nevada which is as backward as a lot of other states.

270 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 6:41:19am

re: #268 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m not being generous, only cynical. I don’t want these people or any fundies to adopt, but belief in telepathy or demons is no more or less justified than belief in homeopathy or gods.

271 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 6:41:29am

re: #269 Sionainn

When my husband and I went through classes in order to “foster to adopt,” there were a whole lot of things that were off limits legally that were perfectly legal for biological parents to do to their children. There is indeed a higher standard for adoption, at least in my state of Nevada which is as backward as a lot of other states.

International adoptions have even more rigorous requirements.

272 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 6:42:08am

re: #267 Nyet

And it’s why we have laws against child abuse. Those kids were abused because of the raging religious views of those “parents” and Mary, especially, may never recover.

I don’t give any religion a pass that excuses abuse of children in any manner. I still carry scars from the “religious” upbringing I went through which excused the physical and psychological abuse my sister and I went through.

273 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 6:44:13am

re: #270 Nyet

I’m not being generous, only cynical. I don’t want these people or any fundies to adopt, but belief in telepathy or demons is no more or less justified than belief on homeopathy or gods.

On that we agree, but these kids were potentially in an abusive situation. Their adoptive parents were clearly not able to deal with the kids, and the state should have stepped in and removed the children.

There is no magical balance fairy when it comes to child welfare.

274 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 6:46:39am

Watch Live: Kerry, Carter Appear at Senate ISIS Hearing

nbcnews.com

Kerry speaking now.

275 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 6:46:44am

re: #272 Justanotherhuman

And it’s why we have laws against child abuse. Those kids were abused because of the raging religious views of those “parents” and Mary, especially, may never recover.

I don’t give any religion a pass that excuses abuse of children in any manner. I still carry scars from the “religious” upbringing I went through which excused the physical and psychological abuse my sister and I went through.

The Phelps family is a famous example of such, judging from the stories of the children who escaped.

276 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 6:48:36am

re: #273 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The issue of them being unable to deal with the children is a different issue from whether they had a right to perform their wacky religious rituals (as long as these rituals did not objectively harm the children). Bad parents are bad parents in any situation.

277 Lidane  Mar 11, 2015 6:51:34am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

Translation: “Both sides do it”.

Alternate translation: “Please ignore the 800-lb Iran-Contra gorilla in the room.”

278 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 6:52:04am

Indoctrinating kids with reality-denying assumptions (like creationism, for starters) is hardly better than exorcising demons from them (no, we are not talking about children being chained to the beds or physically abused - exorcism does not entail that). But yeah, sorry, I don’t believe that someone being a YEC would lead to adoption refusal.

279 Sionainn  Mar 11, 2015 6:52:21am

From Nevada Revised Statutes:

NAC𠀤24.290  Religious beliefs and practices. (NRS 424.020)  The religious beliefs and practices of foster parents will be considered in relation to how they will affect foster children placed in the home. Religious beliefs may not be imposed upon foster children nor limit the ability of foster children to celebrate normally observed holidays or special occasions.

[Welfare Div., Req. for Foster Care § 104.8, 10-7-88, eff. 1-1-89]

280 wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2015 6:52:25am

re: #258 The Mother Of All Pies

Saturday is Pi Day!

I guess this is a reference to a British TV guy…

281 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 6:52:27am

re: #276 Nyet

So, you’re saying psychological abuse from these practices (which most children that young have no idea of whether they’re right or wrong) is perfectly all right because it’s a “religious” practice?

If that’s what you’re saying, you’re wrong. It always affects kids when religious practices are forced on them in this fashion. Even the words people use in exercising their religion can have a profound affect on children. I can absolutely testify to that fact.

282 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 6:54:22am

Turkey closes 2 Syrian border crossings as fighting worsens around Aleppo - @Reuters

283 ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2015 6:54:27am

Morning.

This Hillary Email crap is just out of control. Judging by the “Mom. Morning Joe is being double dickish today!!” tweet above I’m guessing the entire Morning Joke was all about it. Well, I’m sure Joey tossed in a few attaboys for the 47 great Republican Senators…and then went back to the Clinton hate. I said it last week…Morning Joke just hates the Clintons pure and simple.

If Hillary should get elected, it may just kill Joke Scarborough.

And, I see Dark_Falcon never answered my #126. He was so sure Obama wasn’t going to present any Iran treaty to congress and that was why the 47 senators needed to act. Surly he had proof to make that statement…but I guess not.

Sad. But not unexpected. There is a whole hell of a lot of sad in politics these days.

284 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 6:55:33am

US places sanctions on 8 Ukrainian rebels, Russian bank - @Reuters
end of alert

285 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 6:55:36am

re: #281 Justanotherhuman

So, you’re saying psychological abuse from these practices (which most children that young have no idea of whether they’re right or wrong) is perfectly all right because it’s a “religious” practice?

I’m saying that this abuse is accepted as normal when religious beliefs are deemed conventional.

286 Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2015 6:56:51am

re: #281 Justanotherhuman

So, you’re saying psychological abuse from these practices (which most children that young have no idea of whether they’re right or wrong) is perfectly all right because it’s a “religious” practice?

If that’s what you’re saying, you’re wrong. It always affects kids when religious practices are forced on them in this fashion. Even the words people use in exercising their religion can have a profound affect on children. I can absolutely testify to that fact.

That is kind of the point, isn’t it.

287 Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2015 6:59:11am

Going to start an existentialist daycare—“No Exit” signs all over the place.

288 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 6:59:58am

re: #276 Nyet

The issue of them being unable to deal with the children is a different issue from whether they had a right to perform their wacky religious rituals (as long as these rituals did not objectively harm the children). Bad parents are bad parents in any situation.

Point taken, but I am not conceding my point that the exorcism and telepathy would be grounds for removal, merely because they would be considered outside the norms acceptable for successful adoption. They can believe whatever crazy shit they want, as you say, but when those beliefs impinge on the welfare of an adopted child, the state would be within its rights to remove the children.

And I am within my rights to consider these people wackjobs.

289 lawhawk  Mar 11, 2015 7:05:11am

re: #287 Decatur Deb

Going to start an existentialist daycare—“No Exit” signs all over the place.

Call the place Hotel California.

You can check-out any time you like, but you can never leave.

290 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:05:14am

re: #288 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

What I said did not contradict what you wrote. “Acceptable norms” are exactly what I wrote - a subjective opinion based on society’s conventions. IOW, prejudice. Which I happen to share.

291 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 7:07:09am

Toddler’s Exorcism Death Part of Dark History

livescience.com

“A Virginia man was convicted earlier this week in the death of a 2-year-old who died during a 2011 exorcism. Eder Guzman-Rodriguez beat his daughter Jocelyn to death in an attempt to rid her of the demon he believed was inside her.

(snip)

“Though belief in fairies has waned in modern times, belief in spiritual possession by demons and other supernatural entities remains very much with us. In 2003, an autistic 8-year-old boy in Milwaukee was killed during an exorcism by church members who blamed an invading demon for his disability; and in 2005, a young nun in Romania died at the hands of a priest during an exorcism after being bound to a cross, gagged, and left for days without food or water in an effort to expel demons. In 2010, a 14-year-old boy in England was beaten and drowned to death by relatives trying to exorcise an evil spirit from him.

“Though belief in spirits and demons has been a part of humanity for millennia, it also has a dark side and can inflict terrible harm on the most innocent among us.”

There is always something that can go horribly wrong. Better to love and protect children in every way than believe they are “possessed” or “evil”. Only a mentally unbalanced person would think that.

292 steve_davis  Mar 11, 2015 7:07:21am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

Everyone knows Ayotollah Khameini does open mic in Tehran on Tuesdays.

“Heh. I’m here all week! Try the quiche!!”

293 Lidane  Mar 11, 2015 7:08:40am
294 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:08:50am

re: #291 Justanotherhuman

Belief in demons is as justified as belief in gods. It maybe outmoded, but that’s just that.

295 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 7:10:47am

re: #278 Nyet

Indoctrinating kids with reality-denying assumptions (like creationism, for starters) is hardly better than exorcising demons from them (no, we are not talking about children being chained to the beds or physically abused - exorcism does not entail that). But yeah, sorry, I don’t believe that someone being a YEC would lead to adoption refusal.

I said nothing about YEC, which I agree is also pretty wacky, but not as dangerous psychologically as exorcism and telling kids they have demons inside them and can’t be trusted. Nor did I say anything about chains and physical abuse (though I suspect the “rod” may have been used in this household).

Your statements that all magical belief systems are equally silly is just fine and dandy in the abstract sense. But there are benign beliefs, that don’t necessarily endanger the welfare of a child (Santa Claus, the Virgin birth), and those that do (demons, exorcism, shunning on the basis of superstitious fear).

I am not sure if you are being devil’s advocate here, or being obtuse. We are not talking about adults dealing with adults. Adults can believe whatever they want. They are not free to impose psychologically damaging beliefs on adoptive children, and shouldn’t be free to do so on their natural children.

296 Lidane  Mar 11, 2015 7:11:47am

Apparently, this is the wingnut special of the day:

297 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 7:12:02am

Secretary of State John Kerry says there must be no geographic limitation on use of force against ISIS, must not be limited to Iraq and Syria - @markknoller

298 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 7:13:14am

re: #296 Lidane

Yeah, that was the meme on Morning Joke this morning, also.

299 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 7:13:28am

re: #294 Nyet

Belief in demons is as justified as belief in gods. It maybe outmoded, but that’s just that.

So what exactly is your point here? We should give the demon-believers a pass, just as we give god-believers a pass? I’m really not clear why you keep hammering this point over and over again.

300 Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2015 7:13:29am

“Norms”

Almost 1 American in 4 is Catholic—just under 70 million. They maintain (but very, very, rarely practice) exorcism. Maybe mainstream doctrinal norms aren’t the way to go.

301 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:13:49am

re: #295 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They are not free to impose psychologically damaging beliefs on adoptive children, and shouldn’t be free to do so on their natural children.

Of course they shouldn’t be free to do so, yet they are. YEC certainly is psychologically damaging, as is every form of reality-denial.

302 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 7:14:01am

re: #296 Lidane

Apparently, this is the wingnut special of the day:

I’ve heard this same false equivalency all week on Sirius Radio. There are times when wingnuts should probably just condemn the racist frat and then shut the fuck up. However, they are too busy trying to White Splain their racist friends.

303 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 7:14:04am

Secretary of State John Kerry says there must be no geographic limitation on use of force against ISIS, must not be limited to Iraq and Syria - @markknoller
see original on twitter.com

304 Teukka  Mar 11, 2015 7:14:06am

re: #224 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I just whipped this up.

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Heheh. You know, a proper meme caption to it could be:

This is GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!

Anyone?

305 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 7:14:34am

re: #294 Nyet

Belief in demons is as justified as belief in gods. It maybe outmoded, but that’s just that.

Ignorance should be eradicated, not encouraged.

306 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:14:37am

re: #299 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So what exactly is your point here? We should give the demon-believers a pass, just as we give god-believers a pass? I’m really not clear why you keep hammering this point over and over again.

No, I was thinking in the other direction. Don’t give fundies a pass.

307 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 7:15:12am
308 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:16:10am

If you believe in 6000 y.o. Earth and intend to teach that to your children, you should not be able to adopt. (That’s just for starters.)

309 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 7:16:26am

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

PENSACOLA, Fla. — Seven Marines and four soldiers were presumed dead Wednesday after an Army Black Hawk helicopter crashed during a night training exercise at Eglin Air Force Base in the Florida Panhandle. Here’s an overview of what happened.
WHO WAS ON THE HELICOPTER
The Marines are part of a Camp Lejeune, North Carolina-based special operations group and the soldiers are from a Hammond, Louisiana-based National Guard unit, according to Eglin Air Force Base officials. The Louisiana guardsmen are members of the 1-244th Assault Helicopter Battalion. The names of those involved have not been released, pending notification of their next of kin. A military official, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the official wasn’t authorized to speak on the record, said they are presumed dead.

310 ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2015 7:17:00am

I did a search at YouTube to see if there were any videos of Morning Joe from today. I did come across this bit with Mika and Joe more or less saying it was that nasty hip-hop stuff and all the “n” words those poor Oklahoma kids heard that caused them to sing there little racist song on the bus.

And then there is William “Clueless” Kristol saying it was to be expected. A bunch of drunk kids repeating what they hear. Damn. I didn’t know the SAE kids learned that particular ditty from the rappers.

Really? Learn some new bullshit every day!

I am so glad to only catch this insane thinking in YouTubes after the fact. Seeing it on YouTube seems to make it more of a joke than seeing the actual idiocy flowing in real time.

Well, a brief time here this morning. Time to get busy. Back later. Everyone keep you derp-blocking helmets on. I have a feeling it is going to be a bad day…er, week…uh, year.

311 steve_davis  Mar 11, 2015 7:17:19am

re: #36 The War TARDIS

Knowing them, they would end up eating the kids or something.

“Hank! It doesn’t say, “40 ways to prepare kids for the ROTC.” It says, “40 ways to prepare kids for the rotisserie.” Get them off the plane! It’s a cookbook!!”

312 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 7:17:22am

re: #302 Dr. Matt

I’ve heard this same false equivalency all week on Sirius Radio. There are times when wingnuts should probably just condemn the racist frat and then shut the fuck up. However, they are too busy trying to White Splain their racist friends.

UpChuck ran a story about a RW think tank’s analysis of Oklahoma’s admissions from 2012, alleging that non-whites got preferential treatment in admission, so RACISM!!

Only thing is, Oklahoma ended affirmative action in admissions in 2012, a fact which he buries somewhere in the middle of the article as a “by the way,” and then closes the story by suggesting the practice still continues.

He also ran the lyrics of the song, complete with the n-words.

313 b.d.  Mar 11, 2015 7:19:55am

re: #310 ObserverArt

I did a search at YouTube to see if there were any videos of Morning Joe from today. I did come across this bit with Mica and Joe more or less saying it was that nasty hip-hop stuff and all the “n” words those poor Oklahoma kids heard that caused them to sing there little racist song on the bus.

And then there is William “Clueless” Kristol saying it was to be expected. A bunch of drunk kids repeating what they hear. Damn. I didn’t know the SAE kids learned that particular ditty from the rappers.

Really? Learn some new bullshit every day!

I am so glad to only catch this insane thinking in YouTubes after the fact. Seeing it on YouTube seems to make it more of a joke than seeing the actual idiocy flowing in real time.

Well, a brief time here this morning. Time to get busy. Back later. Everyone keep you derp-blocking helmets on. I have a feeling it is going to be a bad day…er, week…uh, year.

The party of personal responsibility strikes again.

314 Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2015 7:20:00am

re: #308 Nyet

If you believe in 6000 y.o. Earth and intend to teach that to your children, you should not be able to adopt. (That’s just for starters.)

Virgin Birth
Three=One
Resurrection of the Dead
Original Sin
Laffer Curve
Pineapple Pizza

315 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 7:20:59am

re: #314 Decatur Deb

Virgin Birth
Three=One
Resurrection of the Dead
Original Sin
Laffer Curve
Pineapple Pizza

Spaghetti in chili

316 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 7:21:28am

re: #314 Decatur Deb

Virgin Birth
Three=One
Resurrection of the Dead
Original Sin
Laffer Curve
Pineapple Pizza

Man created from dust and Woman created from the rib of said Man.

317 ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2015 7:21:30am

Oops. I done fergots to put in the YouTube from Morning Joe!

…

318 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:22:03am

re: #314 Decatur Deb

Virgin Birth
Three=One
Resurrection of the Dead
Original Sin
Laffer Curve
Pineapple Pizza

You’re making my other point for me (the slippery slope).
But: there is a difference in accepting something that “might have happened miraculously once in the past” and accepting the worldview that denies the scientifically-established reality as a whole.

319 Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2015 7:23:09am

re: #318 Nyet

You’re making my other point for me (the slippery slope).
But: there is a difference in accepting something that “might have happened miraculously once in the past” and accepting the worldview that denies the scientifically-established reality as a whole.

The Trinity is probably the most intellectually subversive item in the set.

320 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 7:23:44am

re: #316 Dr. Matt

Man created from dust and Woman created from the rib of said Man.

That’s version A. Version B (which often gets ignored in Bible schools) is that they were created at the same time.

321 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 7:24:50am

Koch Industries says no to Democratic lawmakers’ probe into its climate change funding - @AP
read more on huffingtonpost.com

Of course, they’re going to say no.

“Last month, three Democratic senators sent 100 letters to an assortment of fossil-fuel companies and organizations seeking information on whether they have backed research into global warming and other environmental topics.

“Koch Industries Inc., which includes refining, chemical and pipeline companies, was among the recipients.

“But in a March 5 letter obtained by The Associated Press, Mark V. Holden, Koch’s senior vice president and general counsel, wrote that such information treads on First Amendment rights.”

You didn’t expect them to say that? Great cover up for their “billion dollar funding” of conservative candidates.

322 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:25:59am

re: #319 Decatur Deb

The Trinity is probably the most intellectually subversive item in the set.

Sort of, but probably not psychologically damaging.

323 Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2015 7:27:07am

re: #322 Nyet

Sort of, but probably not psychologically damaging.

People have killed and died for it.

324 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 7:27:38am

re: #320 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s version A. Version B (which often gets ignored in Bible schools) is that they were created at the same time.

Genesis 2:18-23 depicts version A.

325 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:28:26am

re: #323 Decatur Deb

People have killed and died for it.

But not because they were damaged by the 3=1 proposition.

326 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 7:29:12am

re: #317 ObserverArt

Oops. I done fergots to put in the YouTube from Morning Joe!

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He’s just part of the “Party of Personal Responsibility” and White ‘Splaining for his 12 viewers.

327 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 11, 2015 7:29:13am

re: #319 Decatur Deb

The Trinity is probably the most intellectually subversive item in the set.

It’s the one item that falls in the really old school “mystery religion” class. To think you understand it is to become an initiate into those mysteries… O_o

328 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 7:29:56am

US, partners conduct 2 air strikes in Syria, 13 in Iraq against Islamic State militants - @Reuters
end of alert

Vice President Biden said US will send more aid, small drones to Ukraine, officials say - @AP
read more on abcnews.go.com

329 Sionainn  Mar 11, 2015 7:31:19am

re: #300 Decatur Deb

“Norms”

Almost 1 American in 4 is Catholic—just under 70 million. They maintain (but very, very, rarely practice) exorcism. Maybe mainstream doctrinal norms aren’t the way to go.

None of the Catholics in my family believe in demons. I can’t think of any Catholic friends who do, either.

330 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 7:32:31am

re: #329 Sionainn

None of the Catholics in my family believe in demons. I can’t think of any Catholic friends who do, either.

Neither does my Catholic family. The Southern Baptists I knew when I was stationed in the South frequently talked about demons.

331 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 7:32:34am

re: #324 Dr. Matt

Genesis 2:18-23 depicts version A.

The other version is Genesis 1:27

27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.
כז וַיִּבְרָא אֱלֹהִים אֶת-הָאָדָם בְּצַלְמוֹ, בְּצֶלֶם אֱלֹהִים בָּרָא אֹתוֹ: זָכָר וּנְקֵבָה, בָּרָא אֹתָם.

332 Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2015 7:33:36am

re: #325 Nyet

But not because they were damaged by the 3=1 proposition.

Returning it to the child-rearing question, I’m proposing that adoptees are just going to have to take their chances, like the zygotes. The alternative is a system of state-sanctioned adoption commissars or state institutions. We could argue about that, but it ain’t happnin’ soon.

333 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:33:48am

There is also the matter of sexual repression in fundamentalist homes, which leads to all kinds of dysfunction. Surely if exorcism and telepathy are a reason to deny adoption, then this all the more so.

334 rhuarc  Mar 11, 2015 7:34:00am

re: #296 Lidane

I’ve been listening to rap music since 1989 when I was in 5th/6th grade. It’s pretty much all I listened to through high school and college. In all of those years I’ve never had the urge to chant a song about hanging black people and calling them a n*****. In fact, I’ve never directed that word at a black person. The use of the word in my life has always been in a philosophical discussion about racism and that word. Saying rap music caused these racist idiots to sing that song is about the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard in my life. But, I’m also not an individual prone to sociopathic behaviors.

335 lawhawk  Mar 11, 2015 7:34:06am

re: #328 Justanotherhuman

US, partners conduct 2 air strikes in Syria, 13 in Iraq against Islamic State militants - @Reuters
end of alert

Vice President Biden said US will send more aid, small drones to Ukraine, officials say - @AP
read more on abcnews.go.com

Number of days since President Obama officially requested Congress consider AUMF: 1 month, and counting.

Number of days the GOP has refused to address the issue: even longer, since the President indicated need to get AUMF before that.

The GOP can tailor its own AUMF, but to do so would mean doing the one thing it hasn’t done in years and that’s called govern/legislating. Attacking the president is so much easier than doing its job.

336 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 7:34:14am

re: #296 Lidane

Apparently, this is the wingnut special of the day:

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Man that’s a fail on so many levels.

337 Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2015 7:34:21am

re: #329 Sionainn

None of the Catholics in my family believe in demons. I can’t think of any Catholic friends who do, either.

Expect the Spanish Inquisition.

Edited for linK:

en.wikipedia.org

338 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 7:34:21am

re: #333 Nyet

There is also the matter of sexual repression in fundamentalist homes, which leads to all kinds of dysfunction. Surely if exorcism and telepathy are a reason to deny adoption, then this all the more so.

You gotta start somewhere.

339 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 7:34:50am

re: #337 Decatur Deb

Expect the Spanish Inquisition.

No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!

340 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 7:35:04am

So the frat’s house mother? I guess it was the rap music with her too right?

341 Sionainn  Mar 11, 2015 7:35:08am

re: #330 Dr. Matt

Neither does my Catholic family. The Southern Baptists I knew when I was stationed in the South frequently talked about demons.

Yes, the fundies are the ones I’ve heard speaking about demons. They are obsessed by them.

342 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 7:35:35am

re: #317 ObserverArt

Oops. I done fergots to put in the YouTube from Morning Joe!

Morning Joe, Bill Kristol Blame Racist SAE Video on Rap Music

White people=never the racists.

//

343 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:35:48am

re: #338 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You gotta start somewhere.

And you also gotta make the logical links between various phenomena. Because otherwise you end up with “oh, those are just some crazy exorcists, we don’t believe in that, we’re not at all like them”. Um, no, they are.

344 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:36:21am

re: #340 HappyWarrior

So the frat’s house mother? I guess it was the rape music with her too right?

Hehe.

345 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 7:37:25am

re: #312 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Only thing is, Oklahoma ended affirmative action in admissions in 2012, a fact which he buries somewhere in the middle of the article as a “by the way,” and then closes the story by suggesting the practice still continues.

Ah, man, that means no more witty “affirmative action bake sales”. Those are so clever and race realism. ///

346 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 11, 2015 7:37:29am

re: #330 Dr. Matt

Neither does my Catholic family. The Southern Baptists I knew when I was stationed in the South frequently talked about demons.

Evil is real enough; we don’t need to blame what we are all too fully capible of on some outside force.

je suis ISIS, as it were…

347 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 7:37:55am

Has anyone heard about a second SAE fratboy video shot from a different part of the bus? I thought I heard a reference to it on SiriusXM Progress this morning. I may have misunderstood the context thought…

348 b.d.  Mar 11, 2015 7:38:04am

#3 Trending Twitter hashtag right now:

#RapAlbumsThatCausedSlavery

Somebody has been on the ball regarding coordinating hashtag responses lately

349 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 11, 2015 7:38:08am

re: #337 Decatur Deb

Expect the Spanish Inquisition.

No one expects the comfy chair?

350 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 7:38:16am

re: #317 ObserverArt

That’s some awesome diversity Joe’s got on his TV show there.

//

351 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 7:38:46am

re: #341 Sionainn

Yes, the fundies are the ones I’ve heard speaking about demons. They are obsessed by them.

You can imagine my surprise, being a native New Yorker and lukewarm Presbyterian, when I attended an Assembly of God service in Kentucky where the preacher was talking about demons all around us, in pop music, in the city government, in the federal government.

I felt like I had been put in a time machine and sent back to the Middle Ages.

352 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 11, 2015 7:39:51am

re: #334 rhuarc

I’ve been listening to rap music since 1989 when I was in 5th/6th grade. It’s pretty much all I listened to through high school and college. In all of those years I’ve never had the urge to chant a song about hanging black people and calling them a n*****. In fact, I’ve never directed that word at a black person. The use of the word in my life has always been in a philosophical discussion about racism and that word. Saying rap music caused these racist idiots to sing that song is about the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard in my life. But, I’m also not an individual prone to sociopathic behaviors.

People who do not understand what an issue is about tend to seize on one word or image (flag pins, guns, nativity scenes) and ignore the overall discussion of what is being said by whom and for what reason.

353 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 7:39:58am

re: #344 Nyet

Hehe.

Note to self, coffee before posting. Thanks Sergei.

354 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 7:40:22am

re: #347 Dr. Matt

Has anyone heard about a second SAE fratboy video shot from a different part of the bus? I thought I heard a reference to it on SiriusXM Progress this morning. I may have misunderstood the context thought…

There were two videos. One of them shows a frat boy putting out his hand to stop the person recording the song.

355 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 7:40:28am

Secretary of Defense Ash Carter to Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla.: Don’t believe Iran would view US bombing Islamic militants as ‘unwelcome’ - @mikememoli
see original on twitter.com

356 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 7:40:34am

re: #310 ObserverArt

I did a search at YouTube to see if there were any videos of Morning Joe from today. I did come across this bit with Mika and Joe more or less saying it was that nasty hip-hop stuff and all the “n” words those poor Oklahoma kids heard that caused them to sing there little racist song on the bus.

And then there is William “Clueless” Kristol saying it was to be expected. A bunch of drunk kids repeating what they hear. Damn. I didn’t know the SAE kids learned that particular ditty from the rappers.

Really? Learn some new bullshit every day!

I am so glad to only catch this insane thinking in YouTubes after the fact. Seeing it on YouTube seems to make it more of a joke than seeing the actual idiocy flowing in real time.

Well, a brief time here this morning. Time to get busy. Back later. Everyone keep you derp-blocking helmets on. I have a feeling it is going to be a bad day…er, week…uh, year.

Young, pure, hard-working white men from fly-over country having rap music rammed down their throats. ///

357 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 7:40:54am

re: #345 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Ah, man, that means no more witty “affirmative action bake sales”. Those are so clever and race realism. ///

I was hearing about College Republican affirmative action bake sales in the 90’s. Lame then and lame now.

358 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 7:41:48am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

I was hearing about College Republican affirmative action bake sales in the 90’s. Lame then and lame now.

UpChuck is all about the reverse racism shit.

359 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 7:42:17am

re: #354 The Mother Of All Pies

There were two videos. One of them shows a frat boy putting out his hand to stop the person recording the song.

Ah. Ok. That sounds right in the context of their discussion. I haven’t seen that one yet.

360 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 7:42:24am

re: #358 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

UpChuck is all about the reverse racism shit.

Wonder what HAW thinks of that.

361 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 7:42:34am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

I was hearing about College Republican affirmative action bake sales in the 90’s. Lame then and lame now.

And each one is like “This is the most clever original thing ever.”

Hurr hurr if you have affirmative action here’s our affirmative action cookie sale!!!1

362 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 7:43:23am

re: #360 HappyWarrior

Wonder what HAW thinks of that.

He was careful in his story to say whites and Asian were being discriminated against. Maybe she was looking over his shoulder at the time.

363 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 7:43:48am

Official: Man, Teen in IS Killing Video Are French Citizens

abcnews.go.com

“A French official tells The Associated Press that a man and a teenager who appear in an Islamic State video showing the killing of a Palestinian have been identified as French citizens.

“The official, who has close ties to intelligence services, also says authorities are investigating whether the man has links to the family of the Islamic extremist who attacked a Jewish school and paratroopers in southern France in 2012.” More

364 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 7:44:54am

re: #361 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And each one is like “This is the most clever original thing ever.”

Hurr hurr if you have affirmative action here’s our affirmative action cookie sale!!!1

My response would be that they’re ignoring that for generations that African Americans and other minorities couldn’t even get into colleges. AA may not be perfect but the conditions that led to its creation were horrendous and the snot nosed college R’s don’t get that.

365 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 7:45:03am

re: #283 ObserverArt

Morning.

This Hillary Email crap is just out of control. Judging by the “Mom. Morning Joe is being double dickish today!!” tweet above I’m guessing the entire Morning Joke was all about it. Well, I’m sure Joey tossed in a few attaboys for the 47 great Republican Senators…and then went back to the Clinton hate. I said it last week…Morning Joke just hates the Clintons pure and simple.

If Hillary should get elected, it may just kill Joke Scarborough.

And, I see Dark_Falcon never answered my #126. He was so sure Obama wasn’t going to present any Iran treaty to congress and that was why the 47 senators needed to act. Surly he had proof to make that statement…but I guess not.

Sad. But not unexpected. There is a whole hell of a lot of sad in politics these days.

Email-gate is the most worst scandal ever. Obummer was probably golfing while HRC was using private email!! Who gave the Stand Down order?!?!! Never 4get!

366 lawhawk  Mar 11, 2015 7:45:03am

re: #334 rhuarc

It’s tricky to rock a rhyme. That’s why some folks think rap is a gangsta’s paradise, even though we get no sleep til Brooklyn and we’ve got to fight for our right to party and rapture.

Some folks simply don’t get that rap is an extension of spoken word and music, and that the form has been around for a whole lot longer than these folks would care to admit, but it’s not just the music itself, but who’s proffering the rap that makes it “dangerous.”

367 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 7:45:04am

re: #362 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He was careful in his story to say whites and Asian were being discriminated against. Maybe she was looking over his shoulder at the time.

Ah!

368 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:46:39am

re: #362 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He was careful in his story to say whites and Asian were being discriminated against. Maybe she was looking over his shoulder at the time.

He once wrote that when his future Asian kid will go to college, he doesn’t want him to be discriminated against etc.

369 lawhawk  Mar 11, 2015 7:47:26am
370 Lidane  Mar 11, 2015 7:48:14am

Speaking of bake sales:

371 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 7:48:33am

re: #354 The Mother Of All Pies

There were two videos. One of them shows a frat boy putting out his hand to stop the person recording the song.

CNN has the video: cnn.com

First, the look on his face (“Oh shit, I’m busted”) was absolutely priceless. Second, he was using a friggn microphone while singing their racist song. Wow.

372 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 7:49:00am

re: #369 lawhawk

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Yeah the sheer number. This is like 90% of the Senate GOP caucus.

373 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 7:50:10am

re: #366 lawhawk

Early rap could be horribly misogynistic and full of testosterone. It’s probably why I’ve never listened to it very much. OTOH, I dislike the majority of country music and pop, too.

374 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:50:47am

re: #250 freetoken

The film might also ruffle up some conservative feathers, for the lead actor is Haaz Sleiman — a Lebanese-American Muslim actor. There has already been some buzz on Twitter, ahead of the film’s premiere.

If nobody is offended when Christian men play a Jewish man, why would anybody be offended by a Muslim actor, esp. considering that Muslims consider Isa their prophet?

375 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 7:51:50am

re: #370 Lidane

Speaking of bake sales:

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but they just believe homosexuality is sinful. Really don’t want to be called bigots? Stop denying the basic humanity of LGBT people.

376 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 7:52:05am

#47Traitors is still trending with nearly 210K tweets.

377 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 11, 2015 7:52:36am

re: #374 Nyet

If nobody is offended when Christian men play a Jewish man, why would anybody be offended by a Muslim actor, esp. considering that Muslims consider Isa their prophet?

I recall the Egyptians were very upset when Americans had a black actor, Lou Gosset, portray Anwar Saddat in a mini-series.

378 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 7:54:34am

Oh, the horror!

379 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 7:54:37am

re: #366 lawhawk

It’s tricky to rock a rhyme. That’s why some folks think rap is a gangsta’s paradise, even though we get no sleep til Brooklyn and we’ve got to fight for our right to party and rapture.

Some folks simply don’t get that rap is an extension of spoken word and music, and that the form has been around for a whole lot longer than these folks would care to admit, but it’s not just the music itself, but who’s proffering the rap that makes it “dangerous.”

It like everything is an extension. I remember when I was a kid being amused by my brother’s African American friends who said they didn’t like rock because so much of rock is heavily influenced by African American blues. The Stones wouldn’t be the Stones without B.B King, Muddy Waters, or Robert Johnson. I had to like most people have a fine arts class for my degree in college. I took history of popular American music and we covered everything from old Stephen Foster tunes to rap.

380 Lidane  Mar 11, 2015 7:55:40am

The 22nd Amendment is HARD, y’all!

*facepalm*

381 A Cranky One  Mar 11, 2015 7:56:05am

re: #258 The Mother Of All Pies

Saturday is Pi Day!

At least there’s plenty of pi for everyone. ;)

382 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 7:56:19am

re: #377 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I recall the Egyptians were very upset when Americans had a black actor, Lou Gosset, portray Anwar Saddat in a mini-series.

Complaints about a person of “wrong” ethnicity playing someone of a different ethnicity are sometimes heard in the West too.

383 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 7:57:31am

re: #381 A Cranky One

At least there’s plenty of pi for everyone. ;)

the unending pi buffet…

384 aagcobb  Mar 11, 2015 7:57:42am

re: #380 Lidane

The 22nd Amendment is HARD, y’all!

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*facepalm*

Its tradition for deeply deranged people to spin such scenarios. There was a lot of speculation from moonbats that Bush would declare an emergency, cancel the 2008 election, and stay in office, which was just as ridiculous then as this is now.

385 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 7:57:52am

re: #380 Lidane

The 22nd Amendment is HARD, y’all!

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*facepalm*

Not to mention Obama’s never advocated for repealing it. That’s more than you can say about Reagan and his people. I think Obama will be happy to go. It’s a stressful job.

386 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 7:58:18am

re: #382 Nyet

Complaints about a person of “wrong” ethnicity playing someone of a different ethnicity are sometimes heard in the West too.

We also flip out about hair. How dare Bond be blonde!

387 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 7:58:26am

re: #380 Lidane

The 22nd Amendment is HARD, y’all!

*facepalm*

“Both sides do it”.

388 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 7:58:49am

Heh. Son of a prominent Russian lawmaker who probably thought he was “untouchable”.

389 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 11, 2015 7:59:27am

re: #366 lawhawk

It’s tricky to rock a rhyme. That’s why some folks think rap is a gangsta’s paradise, even though we get no sleep til Brooklyn and we’ve got to fight for our right to party and rapture.

Some folks simply don’t get that rap is an extension of spoken word and music, and that the form has been around for a whole lot longer than these folks would care to admit, but it’s not just the music itself, but who’s proffering the rap that makes it “dangerous.”

I listened to and enjoyed hip-hop & rap from the days of The Sugar Hill Gang. But really, an old white bread boy in the midwest? I didn’t get it. Not really.

I finally _GOT_ rap as that old white punk when I realized that Lou Reed had been rapping since day one and that “Street Hassle” was the prototype of “gangsta” in a real way.

390 aagcobb  Mar 11, 2015 7:59:35am

re: #385 HappyWarrior

Not to mention Obama’s never advocated for repealing it. That’s more than you can say about Reagan and his people. I think Obama will be happy to go. It’s a stressful job.

Exactly. Why would he stay when as soon as he’s out of office he’ll get a multi-million dollar book deal and massive speaking fees? The best part of being President is getting to be an ex-President.

391 makeitstop  Mar 11, 2015 8:00:08am

Hey, Charles (if you’re awake…),

I meant to mention this the other day but forgot. I’m seeing a little CSS weirdness where embedded videos show up in a quote - the title of the embedded video is obscuring the response to the quote. Here’s a screen cap.

FTR - I’m running Win 8, Chrome Version 40.0.2214.115 m

392 Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2015 8:01:58am

re: #391 makeitstop

Hey, Charles (if you’re awake…),

I meant to mention this the other day but forgot. I’m seeing a little CSS weirdness where embedded videos show up in a quote - the title of the embedded video is obscuring the response to the quote. Here’s a screen cap.

Embedded Image

FTR - I’m running Win 8, Chrome Version 40.0.2214.115 m

Came up that way on my IPhone5 as well

393 Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2015 8:02:15am

re: #385 HappyWarrior

Not to mention Obama’s never advocated for repealing it. That’s more than you can say about Reagan and his people. I think Obama will be happy to go. It’s a stressful job.

With a really lousy survival rate. Eight out of 44 didn’t make it.

394 Sionainn  Mar 11, 2015 8:03:15am

re: #368 Nyet

He once wrote that when his future Asian kid will go to college, he doesn’t want him to be discriminated against etc.

If future Asian kid takes after dad, that kid will most certainly be discriminated against, for good reason.

395 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:03:33am

Extended downtime for Apple’s iTunes, App Store and more lingers for hours

appleinsider.com

“The outage began early Wednesday, with both users and developers noticing they were unable to access their accounts. The outage also affected the Mac App Store, iTunes Connect, iBooks, and even Apple ID Web login.

“Users looking for evidence of the outage on Apple’s system status page found nothing, as Apple continued to show throughout Wednesday morning that all of its services were operational. In the detailed timeline view, the site read that “There are no reported issues at this time.” More

396 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 8:04:08am

re: #380 Lidane

The 22nd Amendment is HARD, y’all!

*facepalm*

Obama can take more luxurious vacations during retirement.

These people…

397 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:04:38am

re: #393 Decatur Deb

With a really lousy survival rate. Eight out of 44 didn’t make it.

Ages you like hell too. Cracked also pointed out two termers like Obama especially have it tough.

398 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 8:05:00am

re: #380 Lidane

The 22nd Amendment is HARD, y’all!

*facepalm*

Does Hillary get to be VP in this scenario?

//

399 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:05:45am

re: #390 aagcobb

Exactly. Why would he stay when as soon as he’s out of office he’ll get a multi-million dollar book deal and massive speaking fees? The best part of being President is getting to be an ex-President.

He also isn’t exactly a poor man. WND is so stupid sometimes with their Obama hate that they don’t even think but that’s a feature not a bug.

400 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 8:05:47am

re: #376 Dr. Matt

#47Traitors is still trending with nearly 210K tweets.

Why can’t Dem libtards take a little joke?!?!?!

401 Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2015 8:06:02am

I’d like to throw in a huge WTF here…

Gun Bling

402 Sionainn  Mar 11, 2015 8:06:02am

re: #384 aagcobb

Its tradition for deeply deranged people to spin such scenarios. There was a lot of speculation from moonbats that Bush would declare an emergency, cancel the 2008 election, and stay in office, which was just as ridiculous then as this is now.

I heard the same thing when Clinton was in office.

403 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 8:06:51am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

He also isn’t exactly a poor man. WND is so stupid sometimes with their Obama hate that they don’t even think but that’s a feature not a bug.

Obama will make more money after his presidency. He’ll get a pension, be able to speak for hefty fees. These people are just beyond stupid.

404 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:06:56am

I’m honestly not that big on the required term limit to be truthful with you. I like Washington’s precedent but at the same it was just that a precedent and I feel if we had the 22nd in the years leading up to WWII, things wouldn’t have gone as well.

405 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 11, 2015 8:07:22am

re: #398 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Does Hillary get to be VP in this scenario?

//

Oh, let’s just go all the way: Bill Ayers.

406 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 8:07:36am

re: #402 Sionainn

I heard the same thing when Clinton was in office.

Then you remember how Clinton’s 3rd term went. //

407 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:07:59am

re: #405 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Oh, let’s just go all the way: Bill Ayers.

No, no the head of ISIS because Obama loves Islamic terrorists hurr hurr.

408 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 8:08:48am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

No, no the head of ISIS because Obama loves Islamic terrorists hurr hurr.

Obama always planned to install the caliphate during this 3rd term. And set up FEMA camps, etc.

409 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 8:09:31am

re: #394 Sionainn

If future Asian kid takes after dad, that kid will most certainly be discriminated against, for good reason.

Hope dies last.

410 darthstar  Mar 11, 2015 8:10:39am
411 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 8:10:52am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

No, no the head of ISIS because Obama loves Islamic terrorists hurr hurr.

Meh. Lucifer.

412 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 8:11:08am

Rep. Steve King Pouty After Big Daddy Boehner Cancelled His ‘Diplomatic Trip’

Steve Steve (R-idiot) Pouty After Boehner Cancelled His ‘Diplomatic Trip’ crooksandliars.com
413 Timothy Watson  Mar 11, 2015 8:12:26am

re: #394 Sionainn

If future Asian kid takes after dad, that kid will most certainly be discriminated against, for good reason.

Here’s to hoping that McChuckleNuts is sterile, I don’t want him breeding and no child should have to live with him as a parent.

414 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 11, 2015 8:13:28am

re: #408 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Obama always planned to install the caliphate during this 3rd term. And set up FEMA camps, etc.

Yeah, what about those FEMA camps? We’ve been promised FEMA camps ever since 2008 and what do we have to show for it? Nothing. President McCain would have done the right thing and we’d have Halliburton FEMA camps all over the place already.

415 darthstar  Mar 11, 2015 8:14:14am
416 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:16:13am

re: #401 Dave In Austin

I’m surprised that Brain Trust hasn’t smothered any of her kids yet…

417 Timothy Watson  Mar 11, 2015 8:19:19am

re: #415 darthstar

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I would love to see Graham run for president. The wingnuts would go crazy and his campaign would be worse than Herman Cain’s, God, imagine how bad his social media presence would be.

418 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 8:20:06am

re: #412 Dr. Matt

Well, no one is stopping King from going. Just the “somebody else is footing the bill” part of it was rescinded.
He can pay for it himself.

419 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:20:42am

re: #412 Dr. Matt

Rep. Steve King Pouty After Big Daddy Boehner Cancelled His ‘Diplomatic Trip’

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I guess even Boehner knows Steve King going anywhere would be a trainwreck and he would probably end up speaking to a Neo-Nazi party overseas.

420 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:21:15am

re: #417 Timothy Watson

I never sent that email! My manservant did! I never send emails—I get someone else to do it. One of the little people…

421 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:21:28am

re: #417 Timothy Watson

I would love to see Graham run for president. The wingnuts would go crazy and his campaign would be worse than Herman Cain’s, God, imagine how bad his social media presence would be.

Dot dot dot stop stop stop Lindsay Graham is dot dot dot stop stop happy to accept dot dot stop stop John McCain’s endorsement for president.

422 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 8:22:19am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, no one is stopping King from going. Just the “somebody else is footing the bill” part of it was rescinded.
He can pay for it himself.

Tyranny.

/

423 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 11, 2015 8:23:17am

re: #417 Timothy Watson

I would love to see Graham run for president. The wingnuts would go crazy and his campaign would be worse than Herman Cain’s, God, imagine how bad his social media presence would be.

A Graham run would at the least temporarily derail JEB!s inevitability campaign. JEB! will likely have to choose a Designated Wingnut as his VP and Graham would fit the bill.

424 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:23:19am

re: #415 darthstar

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So Graham is basically a small child. Waaah the president may have veto my bill so I’ll join in an effort to undermine his job. Remind me again how Graham is a “good egg” and different from the TP wing of the party. And yeah I know I’m being cheeky there but Graham’s a big part of the problem not solution with his party.

425 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:24:41am

re: #419 HappyWarrior

Steve King is hardly a diplomat, either, so why would this be labeled a “diplomatic trip”? Sorry POS.

426 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:24:44am

re: #423 Higgs Boson’s Mate

A Graham run would at the least temporarily derail JEB!s inevitability campaign. JEB! will likely have to choose a Designated Wingnut as his VP and Graham would fit the bill.

Nah Jeb and Graham wouldn’t happen. It would almost be as bad as McCain choosing Lieberman. Now Graham may be shitty to you and I but to Winguckistan, he’s no different than Obama and that’s part of how it’s easy to act like he’s not a pandering nutjob.

427 aagcobb  Mar 11, 2015 8:25:02am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

He also isn’t exactly a poor man. WND is so stupid sometimes with their Obama hate that they don’t even think but that’s a feature not a bug.

Their business model is pandering to the fears of paranoid racists, so this is what to expect from them.

428 Timothy Watson  Mar 11, 2015 8:26:04am

re: #423 Higgs Boson’s Mate

A Graham run would at the least temporarily derail JEB!s inevitability campaign. JEB! will likely have to choose a Designated Wingnut as his VP and Graham would fit the bill.

Graham wouldn’t fit the bill for designated wingnut nowadays, he supported immigration reform (i.e., amnesty) for over a decade. The wingnuts would loathe him.

429 Lidane  Mar 11, 2015 8:26:09am

GUBMINT TYRANEE! EMPEROR OBAMA! ELEVENTY!

430 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:26:26am

re: #427 aagcobb

Their business model is pandering to the fears of paranoid racists, so this is what to expect from them.

True that. Stalin mustache Farah has to get his jollies somewhere.

431 WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2015 8:26:38am

re: #182 #FergusonFireside

Thank you!

Here is the article from the WSJ about Colin Powell talking about voting laws in NC (in front of the NC Governor, no less).

More here.

“What I say to my friends in the African-American community, is whatever those states do, you meet the standards and then you make sure you register,” Powell said during an interview on ABC’s “This Week.” “You make sure you vote. You make sure you vote for the people who tried to put these barriers, these hurdles in your way and then you vote them out.”

432 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:27:14am

I guess Steve King and his cohorts are trying to do an end-run about the Obama diplomatic corps now?

433 Snarknado!  Mar 11, 2015 8:27:21am

re: #392 Dave In Austin

Came up that way on my IPhone5 as well

Also on my android phone w/ firefox, and win 7 laptop also w/ firefox.

434 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:27:42am

re: #429 Lidane

Bottom ofhis her class, no doubt.

435 aagcobb  Mar 11, 2015 8:29:36am

re: #414 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Yeah, what about those FEMA camps? We’ve been promised FEMA camps ever since 2008 and what do we have to show for it? Nothing. President McCain would have done the right thing and we’d have Halliburton FEMA camps all over the place already.

The fact that the FEMA camps are hidden from view proves the conspiracy to hide them!!!

436 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 8:29:57am

Oh good freaking grief:

437 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 11, 2015 8:30:12am

re: #426 HappyWarrior

re: #428 Timothy Watson

Good points, I’m largely ignorant of most pols’ place in the RW spectrum because it looks very much like la Terreur most of the time and I couldn’t keep up.

438 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:30:25am

Don’t let this woman anywhere near your back.

“Dr. Lee Hieb is an orthopaedic surgeon specializing in spinal surgery. She is past president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a free market medical organization and author of the new book “Surviving the Medical Meltdown: Your Guide to Living Through the Disaster of Obamacare.”
Read more at wnd.com”

Made up her own medical assn, I see, just like Rand Paul.

439 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 8:30:27am

re: #429 Lidane

GUBMINT TYRANEE! EMPEROR OBAMA! ELEVENTY!

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO FORCE VACCINATIONS ON ADULTS Lee Hieb, M.D.: “Liberty has been slipping through our… t.co
— WND News (@worldnetdaily) March 11, 2015

The Federal Gov has been “forcing” vaccinations on adults for decades and decades….it’s called the US Military.

440 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:31:00am

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh good freaking grief:

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You spin me right Rand baby like a record baby.

441 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:31:41am

re: #438 Justanotherhuman

Don’t let this woman anywhere near your back.

“Dr. Lee Hieb is an orthopaedic surgeon specializing in spinal surgery. She is past president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a free market medical organization and author of the new book “Surviving the Medical Meltdown: Your Guide to Living Through the Disaster of Obamacare.”
Read more at wnd.com”

Made up her own medical assn, I see, just like Rand Paul.

I’m surviving fine thank you Dr. now that I can’t be denied coverage due to my pre-existing condition.

442 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 8:32:16am
443 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 8:33:31am

re: #429 Lidane

GUBMINT TYRANEE! EMPEROR OBAMA! ELEVENTY!

Once all Americans are forced into FEMA camps the forced vaccination policy can be implemented. /

444 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 11, 2015 8:33:37am

re: #442 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Back when I was a driver, there were fairly healthy bonuses for hauling tankers. Not healthy enough for me as this photo shows… O_o

445 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 8:34:28am

Is the browser tab LGF icon missing for anyone else?

446 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 8:34:32am

re: #442 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s a car wedged under the front bumper of the tanker.

447 darthstar  Mar 11, 2015 8:35:00am
448 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 8:35:34am

re: #442 Backwoods_Sleuth

From the WXYZ link:

At least two vehicles are on fire. There is no word on injuries at this time. A number of people can be seen on the side of the road. Flames can also be seen coming from sewer system manholes.

yowser!

449 aagcobb  Mar 11, 2015 8:35:51am

re: #438 Justanotherhuman

Don’t let this woman anywhere near your back.

“Dr. Lee Hieb is an orthopaedic surgeon specializing in spinal surgery. She is past president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a free market medical organization and author of the new book “Surviving the Medical Meltdown: Your Guide to Living Through the Disaster of Obamacare.”
Read more at wnd.com”

Made up her own medical assn, I see, just like Rand Paul.

Must be referring to the meltdown the Supreme Court would cause if it cancels subsidies on the federal exchange. After reading the transcript of the argument, my money is on a 6-3 vote affirming the IRS’ interpretation.

450 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 8:36:13am

re: #441 HappyWarrior

Surviving the Medical Meltdown: Your Guide to Living Through the Disaster of Obamacare.”

Obamacare is melting down just like the stock market and booming gas prices and hyper-inflation. /

451 lawhawk  Mar 11, 2015 8:36:15am

re: #412 Dr. Matt

I’d be real curious where he was planning on going for this important trip on taxpayer dime. That article doesn’t say, and while Israel is a possibility, it’s hardly the only exotic locale that Congress travels to.

452 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:36:39am

re: #439 Dr. Matt

And the thing is, Hieb should know this, since she did both her internship and residency in the US Navy.

Obviously, she’s disgruntled about something. Maybe like, no one else would give her a chance but the US govt?

453 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 11, 2015 8:38:42am

re: #438 Justanotherhuman

Don’t let this woman anywhere near your back.

“Dr. Lee Hieb is an orthopaedic surgeon specializing in spinal surgery. She is past president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a free market medical organization and author of the new book “Surviving the Medical Meltdown: Your Guide to Living Through the Disaster of Obamacare.”
Read more at wnd.com”

Made up her own medical assn, I see, just like Rand Paul.

Thank you. Your comment gave me an idea that will make me rich beyond my dreams of avarice. I’m going to put up a web site named Conservastarter. It’ll offer the crazies the chance to raise money with just a few paragraphs of batshit insanity thus saving them the trouble of writing books or pretending to be journalists. Of course I’ll mercilessly rip them off: that will make me credible in their eyes.

454 Lidane  Mar 11, 2015 8:38:59am

re: #447 darthstar

455 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 8:39:01am

re: #442 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck that’s right near me.

456 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 8:39:27am

re: #455 The Mother Of All Pies

Fuck that’s right near me.

I thought it might be.

457 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:39:30am

Missouri, again. Now they’re trying to kill the rest of us. ///

Shares of US meat producers drop after Department of Agriculture confirms it has detected H5N2 avian flu in 2 commercial turkey flocks in Missouri - @MarketWatch
read more on marketwatch.com

458 Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2015 8:41:04am

…and in important news, the first asparagus spear has just broken through.

459 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:41:05am

re: #455 The Mother Of All Pies

Hope you get home OK this evening. : )

460 WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2015 8:41:29am

re: #402 Sionainn

I heard the same thing when Clinton was in office.

And Bush II.

461 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:41:54am

re: #458 Decatur Deb

Fresh asparagus! Do we get some? ; )

462 Varek Raith  Mar 11, 2015 8:42:17am

re: #447 darthstar

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Oh hai.

463 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 8:42:39am

re: #451 lawhawk

I’d be real curious where he was planning on going for this important trip on taxpayer dime. That article doesn’t say, and while is a possibility, it’s hardly the only exotic locale that Congress travels to.

My first thought was Israel even before karoli surmised the same thing at the end of the story. It seems to make sense in light of Bibi’s visit and the 47 Traitor’s letter. The MSM will never bother to follow-up unfortunately.

464 darthstar  Mar 11, 2015 8:42:42am
465 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:44:13am

re: #460 WhatEVs

And Bush II.

You’ll hear it again with the next two term president. Hell I bet even one termers are clamoring in a way to get out. Buchanan famously wrote to Lincoln as Lincoln entered the office “If you sir as happy to enter this office as I am to leave it then you sir are a very happy man.” Awful president but he understood what WND doesn’t and that’s when a president is at the end of his road, he’s happy to go.

466 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:44:22am

re: #464 darthstar

467 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:44:42am

re: #464 darthstar

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This is brilliant.

468 Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2015 8:44:43am

re: #461 Justanotherhuman

Fresh asparagus! Do we get some? ; )

You get to watch.

(We had to use a special Rutgers variant, the nematodes are bad here. You might have the same problem. It literally grows wild up near Sleuth’s area.)

469 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2015 8:45:11am

I don’t know, If I were I Obama I’d probably totally troll the right wing and imply I might be running for a Third term.

470 Sionainn  Mar 11, 2015 8:45:31am

re: #469 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know, If I were I Obama I’d probably totally troll the right wing and imply I might be running for a Third term.

LOL.

471 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 8:45:49am

re: #459 Justanotherhuman

Hope you get home OK this evening. : )

It’s the opposite direction and a different highway so my commute should probably not be affected.

472 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:46:35am

re: #471 The Mother Of All Pies

Good, ‘cause we want pie this week. : )

473 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 8:46:51am

re: #469 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know, If I were I Obama I’d probably totally troll the right wing and imply I might be running for a Third term.

That would be a shiny new toy for the RWNJ to play with.

474 Lidane  Mar 11, 2015 8:46:56am

re: #469 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know, If I were I Obama I’d probably totally troll the right wing and imply I might be running for a Third term.

If I was Obama, I’d start floating the idea of legislation to prevent me from running for a third term, just to see which idiot drafts the first bill.

475 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 8:46:57am

Fire coming out of the sewer grates is freaky

476 lawhawk  Mar 11, 2015 8:47:09am

re: #453 Higgs Boson’s Mate

re: #438 Justanotherhuman

Lee Heib?

She’s been covered by LGF in the past, along with the AAPS, particularly when it comes to crackpot theories about Ebola.

That group is connected with Rand/Ron Paul and pushes all manner of BS, including that illegals are responsible for bringing in all manner of ailment, including Enterovirus D68 and Ebola.

The AAPS and their crackpots are the go-to “experts” for WND and Drudge on all manner of xenophobia and racism, to say nothing of exotic theories about stuff like Ebola.

477 Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2015 8:47:16am

re: #469 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know, If I were I Obama I’d probably totally troll the right wing and imply I might be running for a Third term.

Just announce Holder is “looking into the legalities”. See how fast his replacement is forwarded.

478 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 8:48:07am

Watch Live

479 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 11, 2015 8:48:09am

re: #476 lawhawk

Lee Heib?

She’s been covered by LGF in the past, along with the AAPS, particularly when it comes to crackpot theories about Ebola.

That group is connected with Rand/Ron Paul and pushes all manner of BS, including that illegals are responsible for bringing in all manner of ailment, including Enterovirus D68 and Ebola.

So you’re saying this book of hers about Obamacare melting down might not be completely objective?

//

480 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:49:56am

re: #478 The Mother Of All Pies

Holy crap, the black smoke coming out of that sewer opening.

Any news about the driver or occupant(s) of the other car?

481 darthstar  Mar 11, 2015 8:50:06am

re: #469 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know, If I were I Obama I’d probably totally troll the right wing and imply I might be running for a Third term.

He’d just have to drop a hint that there’s an exception to Presidential term limits.

482 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 8:52:40am

BBL.

483 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 8:53:19am

Now a bunch of people are heading to the windows because they heard you can see the smoke cloud from here.

484 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 8:55:44am

LOL work has stopped, everybody is watching this video.

485 Lidane  Mar 11, 2015 8:56:40am

One of the most interesting parts of my job is hearing other conference calls. No details, but it makes me more determined than ever to turn this three month contract into a full-time, permanent gig.

486 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:56:47am

re: #477 Decatur Deb

Just announce Holder is “looking into the legalities”. See how fast his replacement is forwarded.

Yeah that would do it hahaha. As I said though, I really don’t like the term limit law honestly.

487 Sionainn  Mar 11, 2015 8:57:24am

re: #484 The Mother Of All Pies

LOL work has stopped, everybody is watching this video.

I’m supposed to be working and I’m watching the video. LOL. Darn you!

It seems that whatever they are using to put out the fire isn’t working any better than just letting it burn.

488 lawhawk  Mar 11, 2015 8:58:03am

re: #484 The Mother Of All Pies

LOL work has stopped, everybody is watching this video.

Your job is done! /

489 Teukka  Mar 11, 2015 8:58:25am

re: #487 Sionainn

I’m supposed to be working and I’m watching the video. LOL. Darn you!

It seems that whatever they are using to put out the fire isn’t working any better than just letting it burn.

It takes a lot to put out a gasoline fire, but it needs to be put there.

490 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 8:58:32am

re: #487 Sionainn

I’m supposed to be working and I’m watching the video. LOL. Darn you!

It seems that whatever they are using to put out the fire isn’t working any better than just letting it burn.

yeah, looks like they’re using water instead of foam.

491 aagcobb  Mar 11, 2015 8:58:35am

re: #469 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know, If I were I Obama I’d probably totally troll the right wing and imply I might be running for a Third term.

I want him to leave office so that he can be appointed to the Supreme Court and cause millions of rwnj heads to spontaneously splode in rage.

492 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 8:59:23am

re: #487 Sionainn

I’m supposed to be working and I’m watching the video. LOL. Darn you!

It seems that whatever they are using to put out the fire isn’t working any better than just letting it burn.

They don’t want it to spread, like it seems to be doing through the sewer system.

493 lawhawk  Mar 11, 2015 9:00:28am

re: #478 The Mother Of All Pies

Well, that last compartment let go, and all the fluid has now spread all over the roadway and down the highway towards that overpass, igniting everything along the way. What a mess.

494 Sionainn  Mar 11, 2015 9:00:33am

re: #490 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeah, looks like they’re using water instead of foam.

It looked like the firefighters on the ground were using foam. That road is going to need some major repairs.

495 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 9:00:40am

The spilled fuel is on fire now, I guess they will just let that burn itself out.

496 RadicalModerate  Mar 11, 2015 9:01:53am

re: #487 Sionainn

I’m supposed to be working and I’m watching the video. LOL. Darn you!

It seems that whatever they are using to put out the fire isn’t working any better than just letting it burn.

It looked like they were using water to cool down the area before changing to foam to smother the remainder, but for some reason changed back to water when they hit the main fuel source for the fire.
And we got a nice image of why spraying water directly onto a gasoline fire is a very bad idea, because it flared back up to almost its original size and RAPIDLY spread past the containment area.

497 aagcobb  Mar 11, 2015 9:01:59am

re: #486 HappyWarrior

Yeah that would do it hahaha. As I said though, I really don’t like the term limit law honestly.

The only way to get the 22d repealed would be to provide that the current President would still be term limited, because otherwise the opposition party would automatically oppose it.

498 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 9:02:13am

re: #478 The Mother Of All Pies

Watch Live

The fire melted all the snow!?!?

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499 Ace-o-aces  Mar 11, 2015 9:03:09am
500 Timothy Watson  Mar 11, 2015 9:03:15am

re: #498 Dr. Matt

The fire melted all the snow!?!?

///

FIRE MELTS SNOW GOOGLE IT!1!

501 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2015 9:03:19am

re: #481 darthstar

He’d just have to drop a hint that there’s an exception to Presidential term limits.

Exactly. Nothing explicit, just a brief mention of something along those lines would be my preferred approach.

502 Sionainn  Mar 11, 2015 9:03:35am

re: #496 RadicalModerate

It looked like they were using water to cool down the area before changing to foam to smother the remainder, but for some reason changed back to water when they hit the main fuel source for the fire.
And we got a nice image of why spraying water directly onto a gasoline fire is a very bad idea, because it flared back up to almost its original size and RAPIDLY spread past the containment area.

That’s what I thought!

Has anyone heard if the drivers managed to get out?

503 Ace-o-aces  Mar 11, 2015 9:05:37am

re: #447 darthstar

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504 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mar 11, 2015 9:06:25am

re: #458 Decatur Deb

…and in important news, the first asparagus spear has just broken through.

Far be it from me to cast aspersions.

505 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 11, 2015 9:09:45am

re: #458 Decatur Deb

…and in important news, the first asparagus spear has just broken through.

That is major news in Germany. Fresh asparagus season is a time of great rejoicing here. And much pouring of hollandaise sauce.

506 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 9:10:30am

re: #499 Ace-o-aces

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Meretz is polled to get like 4% of the vote.

507 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Mar 11, 2015 9:11:02am

re: #246 Nyet

No way he could.

Upon Putin’s death a Russian Army General hawk would immediately launch a coup and assume power. …Anything to keep the oil revenue flowing into the offshore accounts owned by Russia’s power and military elite.

508 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 9:11:16am

re: #502 Sionainn

That’s what I thought!

Has anyone heard if the drivers managed to get out?

Minor injuries reported.

509 freetoken  Mar 11, 2015 9:12:03am

re: #438 Justanotherhuman

Don’t let this woman anywhere near your back.

“Dr. Lee Hieb is an orthopaedic surgeon specializing in spinal surgery. She is past president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a free market medical organization and author of the new book “Surviving the Medical Meltdown: Your Guide to Living Through the Disaster of Obamacare.”
Read more at wnd.com”

Made up her own medical assn, I see, just like Rand Paul.

It’s the same organization, well known for its quackery. We covered AAPS years ago when Art Robinson was first nominated.

510 Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2015 9:13:04am

re: #505 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That is major news in Germany. Fresh asparagus season is a time of great rejoicing here. And much pouring of hollandaise sauce.

Spargelsuppe. We lived south of Bassano, famed for white asparagus. Before she understood the Lira rate, wife bought a pile. Later: “Damn, I didn’t know I was buying breeding stock.”

511 gocart mozart  Mar 11, 2015 9:14:44am

I’m sure ISIS was laughing there asses off so at least some people thought it was funny.

512 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:14:45am

re: #509 freetoken

It’s the same organization, well known for its quackery. We covered AAPS years ago when Art Robinson was first nominated.

It’s basically the American Medical Association for wingnut doctors right? I think I heard about them during the ACA debate. There’s actually a lot of kooky wingnut doctors in politics. It ain’t just Dr. Ben Carson, idiot in all fields not related to neuroscience.

513 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 9:14:53am

94 shut down in both directions indefinitely.

Welp that WILL affect my ride home as commuters look for alternative route.

514 freetoken  Mar 11, 2015 9:17:04am

re: #512 HappyWarrior

It was started years ago, is run by wingnut Jane Orient, who is part of Robinsons OISM.

515 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 11, 2015 9:17:32am

re: #510 Decatur Deb

Spargelsuppe. We lived south of Bassano, famed for white asparagus. Before she understood the Lira rate, wife bought a pile. Later: “Damn, I didn’t know I was buying breeding stock.”

Yes, Germans are crazy about white asparagus, although you can find green asparagus here lately as well.

The white stuff has to be peeled, and a Spargelschaelenwettbewerb is a big part of rural springtime entertainment, along with tractor racing.

516 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:18:35am

re: #514 freetoken

It was started years ago, is run by wingnut Jane Orient, who is part of Robinsons OISM.

Yeah i figured ti was older. I was just saying that I first heard about them in the ACA debate.

517 Ace-o-aces  Mar 11, 2015 9:18:59am

re: #506 The Mother Of All Pies

Meretz is polled to get like 4% of the vote.

And they could still be in the ruling coalition. The parliamentary system is wacky that way.

518 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Mar 11, 2015 9:19:08am

re: #247 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

these demon-believing wackos are in vital positions of power in the USA. This is the Republican Base. Reality and Reason are mere obstacles in the way of achieving religious victory by any means necessary.

519 stpaulbear  Mar 11, 2015 9:19:17am

re: #497 aagcobb

The only way to get the 22d repealed would be to provide that the current President would still be term limited, because otherwise the opposition party would automatically oppose it.

After all this yammering about a third term for Obama, the republicans are just going to start endlessly yammering that a Hillary prezidency will be Just Like Obama’s third term!!!. Get these stupid people filled with irrational fear and then provide a new target.

Maybe D_F can come along and tell me why I’m being unfair.

520 ramex  Mar 11, 2015 9:20:29am

47 should be shorthand for shooting ones self in the foot. Such as when Mitt Romney claimed 47% of the American public were lazy moochers or when 47 idiots played political games by attempting to sabotage an ongoing treaty negotiation. 47.

521 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 9:21:06am

re: #520 ramex

47 should be shorthand for shooting ones self in the foot. Such as when Mitt Romney claimed 47% of the American public were lazy moochers or when 47 idiots played political games by attempting to sabotage an ongoing treaty negotiation. 47.

522 lawhawk  Mar 11, 2015 9:21:13am

re: #506 The Mother Of All Pies

Meretz is polled to get like 4% of the vote.

And despite Likud losing to Zionist Union, the total number of seats committed towards Likud still exceeds those noncommitted, which means Likud is still likely to get first crack at forming new government.

knessetjeremy.com

523 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:22:27am

re: #519 stpaulbear

After all this yammering about a third term for Obama, the republicans are just going to start endlessly yammering that a Hillary prezidency will be Just Like Obama’s third term!!!. Get these stupid people filled with irrational fear and then provide a new target.

Maybe D_F can come along and tell me why I’m being unfair.

Nah, he only gets upset when you go after the GOP leadership who are honestly more detestable than WND.

524 Jenner7  Mar 11, 2015 9:23:10am
525 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 9:23:22am
526 freetoken  Mar 11, 2015 9:25:52am

re: #520 ramex

Yeah, I thought it was more than ironic that 47% of the Senate sent that letter… no doubt Mitt Romney will be concerned about this 47% too, won’t he?

527 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 9:26:28am

re: #507 Rocky-in-Connecticut

No way he could.

Upon Putin’s death a Russian Army General hawk would immediately launch a coup and assume power. …Anything to keep the oil revenue flowing into the offshore accounts owned by Russia’s power and military elite.

It must be good, to be able to see the future!

528 Lidane  Mar 11, 2015 9:28:07am

Here’s a new one:

529 freetoken  Mar 11, 2015 9:29:39am

re: #516 HappyWarrior

Yeah i figured ti was older. I was just saying that I first heard about them in the ACA debate.

AAPS sprung forth from the cold war reactionary politics and led by Birchers.

Yes, it goes that far back, and is the JBS dressed up in a scrubs.

530 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:30:36am

re: #528 Lidane

Here’s a new one:

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If they wanted to kneecap Hillary, it wouldn’t make sense to do it 8 months before the first Democratic primary.

531 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:30:50am

re: #529 freetoken

AAPS sprung forth from the cold war reactionary politics and led by Birchers.

Yes, it goes that far back, and is the JBS dressed up in a scrubs.

Oh man yikes.

532 stpaulbear  Mar 11, 2015 9:32:01am

re: #523 HappyWarrior

Nah, he only gets upset when you go after the GOP leadership who are honestly more detestable than WND.

Yea, but I think the GOP leadership will be more than willing to climb onto the ‘Hillary is just like Obama’s third term! It’s treason!’ slimewagon. They’ll have every reason to exploit it.

533 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 9:32:12am

re: #513 The Mother Of All Pies

94 shut down in both directions indefinitely.

Welp that WILL affect my ride home as commuters look for alternative route.

Apparently there was also a second car involved. It flipped over the median into the westbound lanes and caught fire near the overpass.

534 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:33:07am

re: #532 stpaulbear

Yea, but I think the GOP leadership will be more than willing to climb onto the ‘Hillary is just like Obama’s third term! It’s treason!’ slimewagon. They’ll have every reason to exploit it.

No doubt. Just saying that he saves his indignation for God knows whatever reason when we go after the GOP leadership.

535 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 9:34:18am

lol:

536 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2015 9:34:21am

re: #532 stpaulbear

Yea, but I think the GOP leadership will be more than willing to climb onto the ‘Hillary is just like Obama’s third term! It’s treason!’ slimewagon. They’ll have every reason to exploit it.

I hate to play the MBF card, but back in 2008, Democrats did a good job of convincing the public that a McCain Presidency would be pretty much Bush Term III.

537 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2015 9:35:02am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s time to retire John. Please.

538 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:36:37am

re: #536 Eclectic Cyborg

I hate to play the MBF card, but back in 2008, Democrats did a good job of convincing the public that a McCain Presidency would be pretty much Bush Term III.

To be fair, McCain wasn’t exactly running away from Bush and furthermore, he was even latching onto Bush policies that he had earlier opposed as a ways of gaining the support of the GOP base. Plus as a Senator, the DNC could point to McCain’s Senate record in support of administration matters.

539 #FergusonFireside  Mar 11, 2015 9:36:46am

re: #525 The Mother Of All Pies

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540 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:37:35am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol:

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Not a day Senator McCain passes where I am glad you are only in the WH as a visitor and not as its chief resident.

541 lawhawk  Mar 11, 2015 9:37:42am

re: #528 Lidane

I see zero evidence and raise you speculation, hidden motivations, and conspiracies. /

542 Jenner7  Mar 11, 2015 9:37:56am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, well, that explains it.

Yeesh.

543 Drive By Commenter  Mar 11, 2015 9:38:08am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol:

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Some he even reads…..

544 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 9:38:20am

They just squirted more water on the fuel fire WTF. Trying to get it to burn faster?

545 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:39:32am

re: #543 nines09

Some he even reads…..

Cotton’s staff probably told McCain’s staff that it was another way of pissing off Obama and McCain’s staff knowing the unbelievable grudge McCain has over Obama in regards to the 2008 election knew their boss would jump on board.

546 Drive By Commenter  Mar 11, 2015 9:40:24am

re: #545 HappyWarrior

Cotton’s staff probably told McCain’s staff that it was another way of pissing off Obama and McCain’s staff knowing the unbelievable grudge McCain has over Obama in regards to the 2008 election knew their boss would jump on board.

He probably thought he was refilling a prescription.

547 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:41:40am

re: #546 nines09

He probably thought he was refilling a prescription.

Hahaha mean but honestly probably a bit of grain of truth to that. Honestly, he should have retired after getting the nomination in 2008. He hasn’t done anything constructive at all since Obama’s taken office and just shown himself to be a bitter old man.

548 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 9:41:57am

Fire is out now.

549 stpaulbear  Mar 11, 2015 9:42:12am

re: #536 Eclectic Cyborg

I hate to play the MBF card, but back in 2008, Democrats did a good job of convincing the public that a McCain Presidency would be pretty much Bush Term III.

I’m pretty sure I thought that a McCain presidency had the potential to be a lot worse than Bush. He was like a random numbers generator with his finger on the button, and PALIN would have been f-ing vice president. That alone put him in a whole ‘nother world.

550 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 9:42:30am

re: #544 The Mother Of All Pies

They poured on a lot of foam and it looks like the fire is pretty much knocked down now.

551 Drive By Commenter  Mar 11, 2015 9:43:20am

McCain never apologized for this pile of organs with no brain.

Shout out to John McCain! Thanks for kick starting my career in Grifting!
552 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:44:17am

re: #549 stpaulbear

I’m pretty sure I thought that a McCain presidency had the potential to be a lot worse than Bush. He was like a random numbers generator with his finger on the button, and PALIN would have been f-ing vice president. That alone put him in a whole ‘nother world.

McCain’s more of a hothead than Bush was too.

553 Mike Lamb  Mar 11, 2015 9:45:02am

The excuses being given by the GOP for this letter just highlight the complete contempt they have for the intelligence of the general public.

554 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:45:24am

re: #551 nines09

McCain never apologized for this

Image: Shout out to John McCain! Thanks for kick starting my career in Grifting!

and I bet you he never will. That unfortunately for him is how he’ll be remembered. It’s too bad. He at one time had the capability to be a decent senator but he’s gone full wingnut since Obama beat him and he continues to be the Will Rodgers of war.

555 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 9:45:25am

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556 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mar 11, 2015 9:45:30am

re: #535 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol:

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The Henry Blake defense: but Radar slipped it into a bunch of other letters I was signing!

557 Drive By Commenter  Mar 11, 2015 9:46:32am

If you ever had any doubt to where Johnny Boy stands.

John McCains first speech as POTUS

558 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 9:54:25am

re: #551 nines09

McCain never apologized for this

Image: Shout out to John McCain! Thanks for kick starting my career in Grifting!

#derp
559 Drive By Commenter  Mar 11, 2015 9:59:32am

re: #558 Dr. Matt

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That’s what happens when a cognizant thought zips through that helium in her head.

560 lawhawk  Mar 11, 2015 10:00:25am

Still undeveloped in more ways than one… /

561 Drive By Commenter  Mar 11, 2015 10:00:57am

re: #560 lawhawk

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Still undeveloped in more ways than one… /

He could be “Former Sperm” also.

562 Jenner7  Mar 11, 2015 10:01:38am

Still trying to process the asinine comments by Joe. I mean, my god, this is 2015 FFS! Gah!

563 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2015 10:04:06am

re: #553 Mike Lamb

The excuses being given by the GOP for this letter just highlight the complete contempt they have for the intelligence of the general public.

And the paper thin list of excuses they deem acceptable.

564 Drive By Commenter  Mar 11, 2015 10:04:40am

re: #562 Jenner7

Music scares cretins. Something is happening and they’re not sure what it is.

565 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2015 10:05:20am

re: #560 lawhawk

Can you page that please if it’s not too much trouble?

566 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 10:11:27am
567 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2015 10:12:36am

re: #566 The Mother Of All Pies

Is that his way of crying Persecution?

568 lawhawk  Mar 11, 2015 10:14:03am

re: #565 Eclectic Cyborg

Done.

569 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2015 10:14:24am

re: #568 lawhawk

Done.

Thanks!!

570 BeenHereAwhile  Mar 11, 2015 10:15:04am

re: #69 RadicalModerate

Some new information regarding the two University of Oklahoma fraternity members who were expelled for their leading in the recently-published racist video.

Both are suddenly “very apologetic” for their role (which should be a surprise to no one). Also, both are from Dallas, and the ringleader was a graduate of an exclusive (and expensive) Christian private school.

Parker Rice, parents of Levi Pettit apologize for ‘horrible mistake’ made in OU SAE video

There’s always Kappa Alpha.

kappaalphaorder.org

571 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 10:16:21am
572 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:16:26am

I swear, MSNBC has become more and more like CNN and FN. Although, Rachel Maddow sort of brought up Andrea Mitchell who was flogging the Clinton emails. It does seem all of them on MSNBC have been taking courses in how to best “take down” the Clintons as some sort of “retribution”, except Maddow didn’t buy it.

FFS, MSNBC and others, if you’re going to crucify someone, make it the #47Idiots.

573 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 10:16:56am

Latest wingnut fake outrage:
HURR HURR WEAR ARE TEH FLAGS FROM TEH SELMA MARCH!!!! THEIR ARE NO FLAGS. INPEECH!11!!!1!!1

574 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:17:36am

re: #570 BeenHereAwhile

Why in hell should parents apologize for their adult children’s horrible behavior? Of course, they’ve probably enabled them all their lives to be horrible people.

575 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:23:29am

re: #574 Justanotherhuman

Yes it is.
576 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 10:26:56am

whut?!

577 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:28:14am

White House spokesman says Justice Department would make the call about whether the Iran letter from 47 GOP senators violated Logan Act - @joshledermanAP
see original on twitter.com

578 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 10:28:36am

The Harris case just got sicker:

579 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:29:19am

Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., on Hillary Clinton’s private email use while secretary of state: ‘Either you believe her or you don’t believe her. That’s the bottom line’ - @mitchellreports
read more on msnbc.com

580 lawhawk  Mar 11, 2015 10:29:42am

re: #573 The Mother Of All Pies

No flags? What utter BS.

gettyimages.com

Or

gettyimages.com

Which shows the flag placement to the side of a building near the bridge - so as not to block the view of the bridge and where the bloody Sunday confrontation took place.

581 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2015 10:29:52am

re: #576 Backwoods_Sleuth

whut?!

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CANNOT UNSEE.

582 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 10:30:25am

re: #578 Kragar

The Harris case just got sicker:

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You need to fix AK legislator to be AR legislator.

583 Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2015 10:31:22am

re: #578 Kragar

The Harris case just got sicker:

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At this point, I’m not sure there’s much that could surprise me about this case anymore. The man truly is a piece of work.

584 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2015 10:31:23am

re: #570 BeenHereAwhile

There’s always Kappa Alpha.

kappaalphaorder.org

And the sad part is this kid is just going to enroll at some other other college, graduate, get a cushy job somewhere and never look back.

585 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:31:27am

Get ‘em while they’re fresh…

Crates of live chickens fall off truck on Staten Island - @CBSNewYork
read more on cbslocal.com

586 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2015 10:31:52am

re: #585 Justanotherhuman

Get ‘em while they’re fresh…

Crates of live chickens fall off truck on Staten Island - @CBSNewYork
read more on cbslocal.com

What a clucking mess.

/

587 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:32:09am

re: #584 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, Daddy’s money will get him where he wants to be, no doubt.

588 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 10:32:23am

re: #582 Backwoods_Sleuth

You need to fix AK legislator to be AR legislator.

My bad, fixed

589 Mattand  Mar 11, 2015 10:34:19am

So who the eff actually willingly watches Morning Joe?

590 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:35:13am

re: #589 Mattand

I do so you don’t have to. //

591 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 10:37:12am

re: #580 lawhawk

No flags? What utter BS.

gettyimages.com

There are flags, just not a WHOLE SHITLOAD OF FLAGS and you know wingnuts have a flag fetish.

592 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 10:37:47am

re: #584 Eclectic Cyborg

And the sad part is this kid is just going to enroll at some other other college, graduate, get a cushy job somewhere and never look back.

Run for office.

593 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 10:38:17am

re: #583 Targetpractice

Marsha Harris told the babysitter that the girls were demonically possessed and that they had to be kept separate because they could communicate telepathically. One of the girls crushed the family’s guinea pig to death, Marsha Harris claimed, and the family were so frightened of the children that they summoned an exorcist from Alabama to perform a casting-out of the girls’ demons.

“The first night I was over there, I just broke down and cried with this little girl because I just felt so bad for her,” said Goldsborough. The Harrises used an elaborate system of locks, video cameras and alarms to separate the girls because they believed they would kill their entire family.

Another source close to the family corroborated this account to the Times, saying that Marsha Harris regularly spoke of the demons she believed were living inside the adopted girls.

But remember, these are good God fearing Christians…

594 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:38:53am

WTF?

595 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:39:55am
596 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2015 10:40:31am

re: #594 Justanotherhuman

Supposedly, it’s at ‘Lil Wayne’s house.

597 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 10:41:30am

re: #591 The Mother Of All Pies

There are flags, just not a WHOLE SHITLOAD OF FLAGS and you know wingnuts have a flag fetish.

Wasn’t hard to debunk their BS

598 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 10:41:33am

re: #594 Justanotherhuman

WTF?

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Apparently its at Lil Wayne’s house.

599 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 10:41:38am

re: #578 Kragar

The Harris case just got sicker:

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People who believe in demons are much more unfit to be parents than people who are gay.

600 Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2015 10:41:59am

re: #595 Justanotherhuman

#BREAKING Miami Beach police have responded to a shooting at the waterfront home of rapper #LilWayne. Possibly four people hurt.
— Carlos Suarez (@CarlosWPLG) March 11, 2015

Can we blame Country Music?

601 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:42:29am

re: #596 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, around a $10M house…

zillow.com

602 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 10:42:32am

re: #597 Dr. Matt

Embedded Image

Wasn’t hard to debunk their BS

And you know a lot of the people who were there in ‘65 were there in ‘15 too. But yes wingnuts keep on bitching about stupid optics.

603 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 11, 2015 10:42:37am

re: #593 Kragar

But remember, these are good God fearing Christians…

That’s the problem. Instead of calling a psychiatrist, they went with a supernatural false-explanation of a psychiatric issue.

I think that on some level, most Christians realize that nothing supernatural interacts with their lives, even if they don’t understand that it’s all imaginary, but the most Conservative one’s actually fully believe to the point of thinking that a preacher can replace a doctor.

604 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 11, 2015 10:43:12am

re: #599 HappyWarrior

People who believe in demons are much more unfit to be parents than people who are gay.

Religious Discrimination!

605 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 10:43:52am

re: #604 No Country For Old Haters

Religious Discrimination!

Yep haha.

606 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 10:44:42am

re: #603 No Country For Old Haters

Another report says they took all the toys and clothes away from one of the girls because “The Demon was making her unappreciative.”

WTF is fucking wrong with these people?

607 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 10:44:56am

Seriously though, what the fuck is wrong with these people? Demons? Agh. This is the kind of crap that got epiletics treated like they were demonically possessed. I guess that’s what happens when you’re part of a mindset that eschews reason in favor of superstition wackshit.

608 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 10:45:23am

re: #606 Kragar

Another report says they took all the toys and clothes away from one of the girls because “The Demon was making her unappreciative.”

WTF is fucking wrong with these people?

Christian fundamentalism.

609 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:46:40am

re: #606 Kragar

Uneducated, ignorant religious fanatics.

610 Eventual Carrion  Mar 11, 2015 10:46:43am

re: #532 stpaulbear

Yea, but I think the GOP leadership will be more than willing to climb onto the ‘Hillary is just like Obama’s third term! It’s treason!’ slimewagon. They’ll have every reason to exploit it.

Like H.W. was Reagan’s third term? Treason!

611 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 10:46:44am

I’m sure it’s already happened but how long until a fundie zealot claims that they killed their child because of da demonz.

612 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 10:47:19am

re: #608 HappyWarrior

Christian fundamentalism.

Psychotic, evil, abusive assholes.

613 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:47:27am

re: #611 HappyWarrior

It’s already happened.

614 Justanotherhuman  Mar 11, 2015 10:47:49am

re: #612 The Mother Of All Pies

You forgot paranoid.

615 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 10:48:42am

re: #613 Justanotherhuman

It’s already happened.

Assumed as much.

616 A Cranky One  Mar 11, 2015 10:48:59am

re: #611 HappyWarrior

I’m sure it’s already happened but how long until a fundie zealot claims that they killed their child because of da demonz.

I googled and the results made me ill. :(

It has already happened. Lots of times.

617 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 11, 2015 10:49:50am

re: #611 HappyWarrior

I’m sure it’s already happened but how long until a fundie zealot claims that they killed their child because of da demonz.

Rockville, MD women plead guilty to killing 2 children during “exorcism”

618 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 10:50:55am

re: #616 A Cranky One

I googled and the results made me ill. :(

It has already happened. Lots of times.

Yeah I guess I should have asked if someone has ever gotten acquitted using this.

619 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 10:51:07am

re: #617 The Mother Of All Pies

Rockville, MD women plead guilty to killing 2 children during “exorcism”

Damn not far from here.

620 Drive By Commenter  Mar 11, 2015 10:55:23am

re: #606 Kragar

Another report says they took all the toys and clothes away from one of the girls because “The Demon was making her unappreciative.”

WTF is fucking wrong with these people?

Grifting sociopathic knuckle dragging cancers like this is what’s wrong.

621 CuriousLurker  Mar 11, 2015 10:56:19am

re: #606 Kragar

Another report says they took all the toys and clothes away from one of the girls because “The Demon was making her unappreciative.”

WTF is fucking wrong with these people?

Anything & everything that doesn’t conform to what’s acceptable according to their interpretation of Christianity is of Satan (or the demons who do his bidding). This I know for a fact because, as I said last week, I have experienced it up close and personal.

622 A Cranky One  Mar 11, 2015 11:06:40am

re: #621 CuriousLurker

You finally posted. Now we can move to the new thread! ;)

623 Eventual Carrion  Mar 11, 2015 11:19:04am

re: #581 Eclectic Cyborg

CANNOT UNSEE.

Take her forever to get through a metal detector.


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