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1 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:33:58pm

What’s next, asking a Neo-Nazi about a four letter k word in regards to Jews?

2 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 8:34:34pm

Why on earth would anyone give a fuck what someone from the KKK has to say?

3 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 8:34:59pm

Clickbait.

4 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:36:05pm

I never watch CNN anymore but I watched on Presidents Day because I’m a presidential history buff and wanted to challenge myself. Lemon was one of the anchors playing for charity that night and he just struck me as a very unintelligent man. This was after I had heard him of course suggest a woman bite her rapist’s penis off. CNN can be fucked up as FNC when they want to be and Lemon pulling this just re-enforces that belief but I don’t even know if FNC would do something this pathetic.

5 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Mar 11, 2015 8:36:22pm

On his behalf, I would say that there are still a lot of racism deniers. The Supreme Court, for example.

6 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:37:19pm

re: #5 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

On his behalf, I would say that there are still a lot of racism deniers. The Supreme Court, for example.

The CJ himself being the biggest culprit.

7 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 8:38:27pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

The CJ himself being the biggest culprit.

Not the biggest, but one of the most visible, as it’s part of his marketing strategy,

8 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 8:39:09pm

re: #7 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Not the biggest, but one of the most visible, as it’s part of his marketing strategy,

Oops. I read that as CCJ. But maybe my snark is still valid.

9 OhNoZombies!  Mar 11, 2015 8:39:44pm

I don’t understand the point of the interview.
Does Lemon think he’s gonna stand up and applaud the actions of OU?
Stupid.

10 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:39:55pm

re: #7 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Not the biggest, but one of the most visible, as it’s part of his marketing strategy,

Well I think Roberts majority opinion on the VRA pretty much illustrated what I am getting at.

11 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:40:53pm

re: #8 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oops. I read that as CCJ. But maybe my snark is still valid.

I thought you might have. It kind of does but I wouldn’t call Alito someone in denial given his own background as an undergrad being opposed to minorities getting into Princeton.

12 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 8:42:24pm

“Do you know what the KKK thinks about this?”

“No, why don’t we talk about it over here?”

Image: defenestration-o.gif

13 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 8:42:27pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

I thought you might have. It kind of does but I wouldn’t call Alito someone in denial given his own background as an undergrad being opposed to minorities getting into Princeton.

Yup. I wonder how he feels about working with Sotomayor (Hispanic) and Kagan (Jewish), two women who benefited from Princeton going coeducational.

14 Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2015 8:42:36pm
15 WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2015 8:43:02pm

Jesus Freaking Cripes on a Crisp

16 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 8:43:26pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Subtle as a rock to the head.

17 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:44:04pm

re: #15 WhatEVs

Jesus Freaking Cripes on a Crisp

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Yet we’re to believe Graham is one of the “good ones”. Oh and they call Obama authoritarian? I know many of them don’t like Graham anyhow but holy hell can you imagine how they’d react if any Democrat said that.

18 WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2015 8:44:10pm

Shocking, right?

19 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:45:36pm

re: #13 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yup. I wonder how he feels about working with Sotomayor (Hispanic) and Kagan (Jewish), two women who benefited from Princeton going coeducational.

Damn good question. He’s a truly terrible judge.

20 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:46:14pm

re: #18 WhatEVs

Shocking, right?

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A moderate maybe on the issue of secession.//

21 WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2015 8:46:32pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

Yet we’re to believe Graham is one of the “good ones”. Oh and they call Obama authoritarian? I know many of them don’t like Graham anyhow but holy hell can you imagine how they’d react if any Democrat said that.

The GOP is insane. Dangerously so. They want to rewrite the constitution they supposedly love. They want to Bomb…practically every body. They actively fuck with foreign policy.

They want the End Times. And are doing everything they can to bring it about.

22 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 8:47:12pm

Every time a KKK member receives mainstream spotlight, KKK wins new members. KKK wins.

Every mainstream “journalist” bringing a KKK member into the spotlight (regardless of whether the goal is to mock them) is a little KKK-helper.

23 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:47:56pm

re: #21 WhatEVs

The GOP is insane. Dangerously so. They want to rewrite the constitution they supposedly love. They want to Bomb…practically every body. They actively fuck with foreign policy.

They want the End Times. And are doing everything they can to bring it about.

I know, I was taking a shot there because I’ve been told that Graham just acts like a raging right wing lunatic since he needs to stay in office to prevent someone really nuts from taking his seat over. Frankly, what’s the difference between Graham and a TP extremist these days? The answer: The TP extremist doesn’t pretend to hide what he is.

24 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 8:48:00pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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This is fun!

Gingers have been savages since there were Gingers. No foreign policy will civilize them. Patrol hinterlands. Defend our interests.

Oathkeepers have been savages since there were Oathkeepers . No foreign policy will civilize them. Patrol hinterlands. Defend our interests.

MRAs have been savages since there were MRAs. No foreign policy will civilize them. Patrol hinterlands. Defend our interests.

25 goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2015 8:49:03pm

Dropping the pretense like it’s hot.

26 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 8:49:59pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

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Dropping the pretense like it’s hot.

“Where is he saying whites are better? How can you say he’s a white supremacist?”

27 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:50:29pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

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Dropping the pretense like it’s hot.

Not even trying to hide the fact he’s a bigot anymore. Grandma and Radio Rush taught him good as a youngin I guess.

28 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:51:10pm

But yet we’ SJW’s are “dehumanizing” him by calling him out for being a bigoted jackass.

29 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 8:51:16pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Damn good question. He’s a truly terrible judge.

Both Sonia and Elena can run rings around him. He’s intellectually lazy.

30 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 8:51:55pm

Patrol hinterlands. Defend our interests. Watch the hands.

31 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 8:51:56pm

re: #29 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Both Sonia and Elena can run rings around him. He’s intellectually lazy.

Sonia and Elena have been great. Good picks by Obama.

32 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 8:54:24pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

Sonia and Elena have been great. Good picks by Obama.

I am proud to say I knew them both personally. Our times at PU overlapped.

33 Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2015 8:54:48pm
34 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 8:54:55pm

re: #30 Nyet

Patrol hinterlands. Defend our interests. Watch the hands.

Analyze the pixels.

35 A Cranky One  Mar 11, 2015 8:56:16pm

re: #34 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Analyze the pixels.

Scoop and then mop the floor!

36 Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2015 8:56:28pm

re: #3 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Clickbait.

Voted most under rated observation so far.

37 goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2015 8:57:50pm
38 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 8:58:41pm

Which of course attracts 2 morons immediately supporting Chuck

39 Nyet  Mar 11, 2015 8:58:53pm

re: #35 A Cranky One

Scoop and then mop the floor!

Not the bees!

40 Mattand  Mar 11, 2015 9:00:03pm

I have to convince myself Don Lemon is actually doing performance art, because it’s depressing to think someone can be this fucking stupid.

41 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2015 9:00:09pm

Reposting because it seems like anyone playing this game would win in record time tonight:

Anyone who wants to reuse this, feel free.

42 makeitstop  Mar 11, 2015 9:01:33pm

re: #22 Nyet

Every time a KKK member receives mainstream spotlight, KKK wins new members. KKK wins.

Every mainstream “journalist” bringing a KKK member into the spotlight (regardless of whether the goal is to mock them) is a little KKK-helper.

My first thought was that they’re mainstreaming these jokers. Legitimizing them.

43 austin_blue  Mar 11, 2015 9:02:51pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

Reposting because it seems like anyone playing this game would win in record time tonight:

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Anyone who wants to reuse this, feel free.

That’s kind of outstanding. And the bonus is, everybody gets Bingo!

44 Timothy Watson  Mar 11, 2015 9:03:20pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

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Dropping the pretense like it’s hot.

Algebra, how the fuck does that work?

45 BeachDem  Mar 11, 2015 9:03:38pm

re: #13 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yup. I wonder how he feels about working with Sotomayor (Hispanic) and Kagan (Jewish), two women who benefited from Princeton going coeducational.

Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if Harriet Miers hadn’t withdrawn. Oh, she was unqualified, somewhat stupid, and mostly a Bush sycophant, but hey, at least she wasn’t Alito.

46 Jenner7  Mar 11, 2015 9:04:03pm

BOTH SIDES!!!! MUST HAVE BOTH SIDES!!!

47 WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2015 9:06:08pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

48 goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2015 9:06:33pm

He’s getting dehydrated.

49 BeachDem  Mar 11, 2015 9:07:52pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

I know, I was taking a shot there because I’ve been told that Graham just acts like a raging right wing lunatic since he needs to stay in office to prevent someone really nuts from taking his seat over. Frankly, what’s the difference between Graham and a TP extremist these days? The answer: The TP extremist doesn’t pretend to hide what he is.

And all that crap about how he had to act wingnutty to win his primary was just that—crap. He was never really in any danger, and when all was said and done, he didn’t even have to have a runoff.

Graham had 57 percent of the vote, well ahead of second-place finisher Lee Bright, a state senator, who had 15 percent. The Associated Press called the race about two hours after polls closed. The five other candidates were in single-digits. Graham needed to win more than 50 percent to avoid a top-two runoff.

50 austin_blue  Mar 11, 2015 9:07:57pm

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

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He’s getting dehydrated.

Brutal. Well played!

51 goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2015 9:12:44pm
52 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:20:49pm

re: #49 BeachDem

And all that crap about how he had to act wingnutty to win his primary was just that—crap. He was never really in any danger, and when all was said and done, he didn’t even have to have a runoff.

Graham had 57 percent of the vote, well ahead of second-place finisher Lee Bright, a state senator, who had 15 percent. The Associated Press called the race about two hours after polls closed. The five other candidates were in single-digits. Graham needed to win more than 50 percent to avoid a top-two runoff.

It was crap.

53 Mike Lamb  Mar 11, 2015 9:21:03pm

re: #38 Kragar

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Which of course attracts 2 morons immediately supporting Chuck

He’s not a racist unless he tweets “I am a racist…” donchyaknow…

54 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:21:15pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

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You’re having fun trolling his sorry ass aren’t ya?

55 WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2015 9:22:24pm

Awwwwww!!

56 A Cranky One  Mar 11, 2015 9:22:54pm

re: #46 Jenner7

BOTH SIDES!!!! MUST HAVE BOTH SIDES!!!

…

57 WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2015 9:23:58pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

You’re having fun trolling his sorry ass aren’t ya?

And I’m loving it. Frank’s on fire lately.

58 HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2015 9:24:47pm

re: #57 WhatEVs

And I’m loving it. Frank’s on fire lately.

Heh if I implied I wasn’t enjoying it, I apologize. I love seeing that little creep be exposed for the bigoted idiot he is.

59 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 11, 2015 9:24:50pm

re: #53 Mike Lamb

He’s not a racist unless he tweets “I am a racist…” donchyaknow…

Racists aren’t “racist”. Only racialists are “racist”. White people can’t be racialists, since “race” means “not-being-white”. Therefore, blacks are the real racists. QED.

60 BeenHereAwhile  Mar 11, 2015 9:26:15pm

re: #12 Kragar

“Do you know what the KKK thinks about this?”

“No, why don’t we talk about it over here?”

Image: defenestration-o.gif

Thus started the “Thirty Years War.”

61 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 11, 2015 9:27:13pm

re: #59 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Racists aren’t “racist”. Only racialists are “racist”. White people can’t be racialists, since “race” means “not-being-white”. Therefore, blacks are the real racists. QED.

Racism is when other people do or say something mean to whites. However, whites can do or say whatever they want, and cannot by definition be racists.

62 retired cynic  Mar 11, 2015 9:37:17pm

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

What a clear thinker. Not.

63 Mattand  Mar 11, 2015 9:38:31pm

re: #15 WhatEVs

Jesus Freaking Cripes on a Crisp

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Right now, Tom Cotton is stage whispering in Graham’s ear “Just say you were joking!”

64 WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2015 9:42:28pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Heh if I implied I wasn’t enjoying it, I apologize. I love seeing that little creep be exposed for the bigoted idiot he is.

No, you didnt at all. I was just making sure to send GDF some love for his efforts.

65 WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2015 9:43:25pm

re: #59 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Racists aren’t “racist”. Only racialists are “racist”. White people can’t be racialists, since “race” means “not-being-white”. Therefore, blacks are the real racists. QED.

I thought Liburls waz Teh Reelz Racists.

66 goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2015 9:44:33pm

re: #64 WhatEVs

No, you didnt at all. I was just making sure to send GDF some love for his efforts.

I love that all this praise is coming in a thread where I made a joke about drinking urine.

My comedy is some high brow intellectual stuff.

67 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 11, 2015 9:54:39pm
68 goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2015 9:55:39pm

This is not going well for the Republicans.

69 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 11, 2015 9:59:04pm
70 Snarknado!  Mar 11, 2015 10:00:12pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

Impressive, even for a straw poll… but it’s a straw poll, unfortunately.

71 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 11, 2015 10:03:30pm
72 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 11, 2015 10:09:30pm
73 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 11, 2015 10:10:05pm

I have had enough of the assholes on twitter.

74 Jenner7  Mar 11, 2015 10:10:19pm
75 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 11, 2015 10:11:03pm

announcing gunshots at Ferguson PD right now…

76 Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2015 10:13:04pm

Oh goodie, that’s just what we need now, a shooting to make the FPD look like the victims.

77 Jenner7  Mar 11, 2015 10:14:30pm

Sigh….

78 BeachDem  Mar 11, 2015 10:16:03pm

The Republican party is a mechanism for the subversion of the federal republic. It doesn’t matter if the party’s stars are doing it to please The Base, or because they don’t know any better, or because they think it’s the right thing to do.

They are actively working to undermine the American union. This should be the first question asked of any Republican leader, of any Republican candidate, and certainly of obvious anagram Reince Preibus, the emptiest suit in American politics.

They should be asked, every day, in every forum, if they believe in the Supremacy Clause, the Reconstruction amendments, and the federal union. These are yes-or-no questions.

A. fucking. men.

esquire.com

79 Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2015 10:17:15pm

So assuming a cop was actually shot, how long before it’s blamed on the President, Al Sharpton, or both?

80 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 11, 2015 10:17:15pm

re: #76 Targetpractice

hearing a second officer down in back of the station…maybe a sniper from what I am seeing on twitter. Very confusing

81 Jenner7  Mar 11, 2015 10:18:44pm
82 Jenner7  Mar 11, 2015 10:22:33pm

I hope the cops are okay and they find the bastard who did it.

83 Jenner7  Mar 11, 2015 10:24:06pm
84 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 11, 2015 10:28:08pm

Going to check tv news now. Damn.

85 Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2015 10:28:28pm

re: #83 Jenner7

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I doubt that’s going to stop the oncoming assertions that the protestors shot the cops.

86 Jenner7  Mar 11, 2015 10:30:29pm

Seems like they are concentrating on the hill, that’s where DeRay said the shots came from…

87 Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2015 10:33:33pm

Either the protestors will be accused of shooting the cops, or they’ll be accused of creating such a “hostile environment” that someone was motivated to shoot the cops.

88 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 11, 2015 10:55:47pm

The woman running the live feed saying an officer came up and confiscated her camera. Twitter going nuts.

89 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2015 11:05:02pm

It looks like tomorrow will be a good day to go grocery shopping and take care of a pile of to do list items and in general do my best to enjoy ignoring the news, because there are some days mental health comes first.

/sigh

90 BeachDem  Mar 11, 2015 11:08:57pm

dailykos.com

following many twitter feeds

91 Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2015 11:16:11pm

Freepers already declaring that these shootings are the fault of the DOJ, with one confident that this means Cruz or Walker will be president in two years so things can go back to “normal.”

Mein gott.

92 BeachDem  Mar 11, 2015 11:17:29pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

Freepers already declaring that these shootings are the fault of the DOJ, with one confident that this means Cruz or Walker will be president in two years so things can go back to “normal.”

Mein gott.

Well of course they are or they wouldn’t be Freepers.

I give up.

93 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 11:20:52pm
94 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 11:21:57pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

Freepers already declaring that these shootings are the fault of the DOJ, with one confident that this means Cruz or Walker will be president in two years so things can go back to “normal.”

Mein gott.

This from the people who thought VP Palin would be gearing up for a Presidential run in ‘16

95 Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2015 11:24:30pm

re: #94 Kragar

This from the people who thought VP Palin would be gearing up for a Presidential run in ‘16

Or that (insert Not-Romney) would be preparing for his reelection bid in ‘16.

96 Amory Blaine  Mar 11, 2015 11:48:10pm

*ahem

With Iran letter, Tom Cotton emerges as leading GOP national security hawk

97 Kragar  Mar 11, 2015 11:50:10pm

re: #96 Amory Blaine

Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Tom Cotton

What is up with the GOP letting the idiot rookies call the shots for the party?

98 Amory Blaine  Mar 11, 2015 11:52:40pm

re: #93 Kragar

Hope the Cubans like robo-spam.

99 Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2015 12:06:03am

Chuck is in hate overdrive.

100 Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2015 12:15:39am

Something tells me Chuck needs an intervention.

101 Kragar  Mar 12, 2015 12:17:17am

re: #99 Charles Johnson

102 thecommodore  Mar 12, 2015 12:24:28am

re: #101 Kragar

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And birthers.

103 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Mar 12, 2015 12:25:57am

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Most men require a trilby to be that fucking stupid.

104 BadExampleMan  Mar 12, 2015 12:37:18am

I know that Charles C Johnson (who is NOT you) has a special connection with this blog, but honestly, as a chew toy he’s getting pretty threadbare. I sure wish The Mighty Greenwald would do something obnoxious soon.

In other news…

105 Ace-o-aces  Mar 12, 2015 1:16:16am
106 Nyet  Mar 12, 2015 1:58:45am

Peskov says Poo is healthy. Drats. Still nowhere to be seen. Frantically searching for a double? ////

107 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 12, 2015 2:15:28am

Remember: relative scores on written intelligence test = absolute and correct evaluation of actual human intelligence.

Because CCJ obviously did well on a written test at some point.

108 Nyet  Mar 12, 2015 2:19:27am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He doesn’t really understand anything on the topic, even the Bell curve discussion was like 3 orders more nuanced than what he writes.

109 Single-handed sailor  Mar 12, 2015 2:20:43am

How about some War Pigs

…

110 Nyet  Mar 12, 2015 2:21:46am

re: #109 Single-handed sailor

How about some War Pigs

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Only as war steaks.

111 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Mar 12, 2015 2:23:43am

re: #108 Nyet

He doesn’t really understand anything on the topic, even the Bell curve discussion was like 3 orders more nuanced than what he writes.

Unitary g means you’re always right, and your base assumptions and process logic can’t be flawed or biased.

A unicorn wizard told this. so it must be true…he’s a libertarian, after all.

112 Kragar  Mar 12, 2015 2:25:00am

…

113 Nyet  Mar 12, 2015 2:26:00am

re: #111 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

Unitary g means you’re always right, and your base assumptions and process logic can’t be flawed or biased.

A unicorn wizard told this. so it must be true…he’s a libertarian, after all.

He’s passed into the neoreactionary stage (all the perks of libertarianism without the facade of “liberty”).

114 Nyet  Mar 12, 2015 2:26:19am

*without

115 Nyet  Mar 12, 2015 2:33:08am

Now 206K sigs: petitions.whitehouse.gov

117 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Mar 12, 2015 3:08:23am

re: #113 Nyet

Sadly, Chuck isn’t the only person tossing about their purported IQ as an argument from authority. I get the “I’m in MENSA, my IQ is high, therefore Austrian economics” floating across my other social media platforms. One libertarian friend, and I get this window into all the posturing and shoddy logic. It’s tiresome, but I feel it’s important to read the other guys…especially when they’re how bad their reasoning is.

Not surprised Chuck went full Moldbug, though. He’s just searching for the special community that will tell him he’s special and nobody else is or ever will be…with a side order of social conservatism.

118 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 3:11:06am

So, I wake up to continuous coverage of 2 cops being shot in Ferguson, not life threatening, but “serious” wounds. I wish them a speedy recovery (neither were Ferguson cops but others who were brought in from STL and another town).

This is going to garner far more news time than the dead victim who brought the racist Ferguson PD and govt into the spotlight.

I’m not excusing the misguided, stupid shooter, but of course, we’re already hearing the derp, including the implication that he was in the crowd of protesters.

119 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 3:18:10am

Here is a very balanced report on the shooting from Aljazeera:

america.aljazeera.com

120 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 3:25:31am

re: #115 Nyet

207,275 plus mine. : )

121 Nyet  Mar 12, 2015 3:26:10am

re: #119 Justanotherhuman

Given all the white supremacists attracted to these events I wonder if it was someone’s idea of starting a race war.

122 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 3:28:01am

re: #121 Nyet

The thought had occurred to me, also. One report said the shots had come from across the street from the cop shop, not where the protesters were.

Supposed to be a presser from Ferguson PD later this am, for what it’s worth.

123 Alyosha  Mar 12, 2015 3:29:28am

re: #117 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

Argument from Authority where the authority cited is one’s own self. Truly biblical levels of logic there.
It has been interesting watching the guy drift further into the fringe in the quest for a sympathetic ear. Kind of like watching the GOP at high speed.
Almost satisfying.

124 Nyet  Mar 12, 2015 3:29:35am

re: #122 Justanotherhuman

It’s like someone expected the cops to fire at the protesters.

125 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 3:31:20am

WASHINGTON — Two senior Secret Service agents are under investigation for allegations that they crashed a government-issued car into a White House barricade after a night of drinking last week, prompting a new inquiry into personal misconduct by employees of the widely criticized law enforcement agency, officials said Wednesday.

“The inspector general for the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the Secret Service, is investigating the March 4 episode, according to a Secret Service spokesman. Officials said the two agents may have been drunk as they ran their car through security tape and then careened into a barricade at one of the entrances to the White House grounds.

“The two men are Mark Connolly, the second-in-command on President Obama’s personal protective detail, and George Ogilvie, a top supervisor in the agency’s Washington field office, according to an official familiar with the investigation who was not authorized to talk about it publicly.” More

nytimes.com

Christonacrutch, 2 sr officers, one second in command on Obama’s personal detail? I hope they’re fired.

126 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 3:33:44am

re: #125 Justanotherhuman

WASHINGTON — Two senior Secret Service agents are under investigation for allegations that they crashed a government-issued car into a White House barricade after a night of drinking last week, prompting a new inquiry into personal misconduct by employees of the widely criticized law enforcement agency, officials said Wednesday.

“The inspector general for the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the Secret Service, is investigating the March 4 episode, according to a Secret Service spokesman. Officials said the two agents may have been drunk as they ran their car through security tape and then careened into a barricade at one of the entrances to the White House grounds.

“The two men are Mark Connolly, the second-in-command on President Obama’s personal protective detail, and George Ogilvie, a top supervisor in the agency’s Washington field office, according to an official familiar with the investigation who was not authorized to talk about it publicly.” More

nytimes.com

Christonacrutch, 2 sr officers, one second in command on Obama’s personal detail? I hope they’re fired.

Is the USSS understaffed? I wonder if there’s too much stress, and some are beginning to crack under the pressure.

127 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 3:34:41am

re: #124 Nyet

It’s like someone expected the cops to fire at the protesters.

The cops were certainly were suited up for battle. No doubt the shooter was aiming for the heads because of that.

128 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 3:37:22am

re: #126 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Allegedly, from what I heard on TV, they were drunk in the aftermath of a “going away party” on the grounds. These were evidently “old hands” in the SS and were in supervisory positions. I doubt they saw the same day to day stress as those actually guarding the Prez.

129 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 3:39:51am

Report by The Guardian about the Ferguson shooting. Includes citizen’s video capturing the shots and the aftermath.

theguardian.com

130 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 3:41:40am

re: #128 Justanotherhuman

Allegedly, from what I heard on TV, they were drunk in the aftermath of a “going away party” on the grounds. These were evidently “old hands” in the SS and were in supervisory positions. I doubt they saw the same day to day stress as those actually guarding the Prez.

OK, then I don’t have any sympathy.

131 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 3:42:41am

re: #129 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

“On the hill”. Sniper?

132 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 3:45:05am

re: #131 Justanotherhuman

“On the hill”. Sniper?

It’s not clear yet, but from the looks of it, and descriptions, the shooters were behind the remaining protesters, shooting over their heads at the police.

133 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 3:46:16am

re: #132 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

More than one shooter? He/She/They would have had to be on an elevation behind the protesters.

134 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 3:48:23am

re: #133 Justanotherhuman

More than one shooter? He/She/They would have had to be on an elevation behind the protesters.

It appears one street in that intersection has a gentle uphill incline — that’s the hill referred to.

135 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 3:49:19am

“Tony Rice, a Ferguson resident and protester, said: “The shots came from up Tiffin Avenue” - an upwards-sloping street directly opposite the police department. DeRay Mckesson, a prominent leader of the Ferguson protest movement, agreed that the shots were fired from “the alley or street” behind where protesters stood.

“I’m 100% sure on that,” Rice told the Guardian. “Clearly no one shot a gun close to me.”

“Yet, when asked to confirm that the shooter or shooters had not been among the protest, Belmar [police chief] said: “I don’t know who did the shooting, to be honest with you right now. But somehow they were embedded in that group of folks.” The police chief said he had no details on descriptions of suspects or on the weapon or weapons used.”

theguardian.com

136 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 3:52:02am

re: #135 Justanotherhuman

The cops are naturally going to suspect the protesters, but I can’t see how someone “embedded” in a group of people can shoot over their heads at someone further away. It makes more sense for the shooter(s) to be in an elevated position, either on a hill or in a building’s upper floors.

137 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 3:53:36am

Deray got pulled over going home; this is the conversation he had with the cop (start at bottom).

deray mckesson @deray * 3h 3 hours ago
I asked him why he became an officer. And he said that a loved one was killed in a senseless murder. That made him join the force.
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The officer also said that contrary to reports, no officer was shot in the face tonight. He said chest and shoulder only.
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deray mckesson @deray * 3h 3 hours ago
The officer also let me know that the two officers shot will be okay, that the bulletproof vest of one of them saved his life.
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deray mckesson @deray * 3h 3 hours ago
For what it’s worth, the officer that pulled me over completely understood the nature of the unrest. He got why we’re protesting.
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deray mckesson @deray * 3h 3 hours ago
No ticket. He recognized me from Twitter and told me to have a good night and to slow down. Homebound.
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deray mckesson @deray * 3h 3 hours ago
So, I’m sitting on the side of the road. And there are two police cars here now, one K-9.
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deray mckesson @deray * 3h 3 hours ago
And on the way home I get stopped by the police. Apparently I was going 43 mph and the speed limit is 30 mph. I just want to go home.
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138 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 4:02:29am

So, if that cop was telling the truth to Deray, how far fetched is it to think that an agent provocateur fired those shot, never intending to kill or injure too much?

And how much truth are we going to get from the Ferguson PD? Not much, I expect, from what I’ve read and seen.

139 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 4:07:06am
140 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 4:13:57am

re: #139 Justanotherhuman

Classy.

141 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 12, 2015 4:49:13am

He seems nice==>

142 Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2015 4:59:08am

re: #141 The Mother Of All Pies

Upchuck said something in the same vein last night:

If he didn’t claim to be married to an Asian woman, I think CCJ would join the KKK.

143 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 12, 2015 5:00:06am

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

Upchuck said something in the same vein last night:

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If he didn’t claim to be married to an Asian woman, I think CCJ would join the KKK.

Chuck goes to work? Since when? Did mother-in-law insist that he show up at the dry cleaner?

144 Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2015 5:02:32am

re: #135 Justanotherhuman

If the shooter was more than 100 feet away, as the protestors are saying, then he likely wasn’t using a handgun. That’s either a pistol-caliber carbine or a full-on rifle. The longer barrel and the stock are normally needed for accurate fire at that range.

145 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 12, 2015 5:02:52am

Welp, people are going around saying that none of the water in this building is safe to drink.

146 Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2015 5:02:55am
147 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 5:03:26am

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

Upchuck said something in the same vein last night:

If he didn’t claim to be married to an Asian woman, I think CCJ would join the KKK.

I think his idea of work is to spend the day in his featureless room tweeting BS and googling for other BS for his website.

148 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 12, 2015 5:04:20am

re: #147 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I think his idea of work is to spend the day in his featureless room tweeting BS and googling for other BS for his website.

He’s too lazy to Google, he expects others to Google and pay him 99¢ for each search.

149 Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2015 5:05:03am

re: #147 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I think his idea of work is to spend the day in his featureless room tweeting BS and googling for other BS for his website.

Sounds more like a vision of Hell to me, but I’m (mostly) sane so what do I know?

150 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 5:05:23am

re: #148 The Mother Of All Pies

He’s too lazy to Google, he expects others to Google and pay him 99¢ for each search.

True. His army of misfits supply the BS.

151 Alyosha  Mar 12, 2015 5:05:37am

re: #148 The Mother Of All Pies

He’s too lazy to Google, he expects others to Google and pay him 99¢ for each search.

LINK ME

152 Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2015 5:06:09am

Jeff Roorda is on CNN right now openly race baiting, calling Holder a liar, and calling a Black state senator a “agitator”. CNN is a fucking joke for letting this asshole on air. Now he is yelling at her on air. Fucking pathetic

153 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 5:07:35am

re: #152 Dr. Matt

Jeff Roorda is on CNN right now openly race baiting, calling Holder a liar, and calling a Black state senator a “agitator”. CNN is a fucking joke for letting this asshole on air. Now he is yelling at her on air. Fucking pathetic

I’m cynical enough to suspect someone took those shots specifically to rile up the racists and the gun nuts.

154 Alyosha  Mar 12, 2015 5:09:44am

re: #153 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m cynical enough to suspect someone took those shots specifically to rile up the racists and the gun nuts.

I’m doing the Occam and 48 hour thing, but the timing is seriously odd.

155 Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2015 5:09:45am

re: #153 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m cynical enough to suspect someone took those shots specifically to rile up the racists and the gun nuts.

He just said Michael Brown deserved to be killed. Good Dog. CNN is such a shit show.

156 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 5:11:20am

re: #155 Dr. Matt

He just said Michael Brown deserved to be killed. Good Dog. CNN is such a shit show.

Roorda left his white hood in the laundry basket at home, I guess.

157 Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2015 5:15:03am

re: #156 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Roorda left his white hood in the laundry basket at home, I guess.

158 Doofus  Mar 12, 2015 5:22:32am

They were shooting to kill.

159 Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2015 5:22:52am

re: #157 Dr. Matt

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Last of the Dixiecrats. If this asshole had been in Selma, AL, back in 1965 he would have been cheering on the state troopers.

160 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 12, 2015 5:29:34am

re: #158 Doofus

They were shooting to kill.

What a great smokescreen to deflect from the problems surrounding police/community relations in Ferguson.

Now they can blame the Justice Department and the protesters for inciting violence against policemen and froth with indignation all over Fox and CNN…

161 Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2015 5:33:27am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

What a great smokescreen to deflect from the problems surrounding police/community relations in Ferguson.

Now they can blame the Justice Department and the protesters for inciting violence against policemen and froth with indignation all over Fox and CNN…

DoJ needs to call this an act of terrorism, and get the FBI involved. That’s the best way to deflect such allegations.

162 Doofus  Mar 12, 2015 5:33:51am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I will withhold comment until the shooter is caught.

163 Joe Bacon  Mar 12, 2015 5:35:37am

re: #99 Charles Johnson

This “Ginger” has clearly “SNAPPED” big-time.

Chucky is too stupid to realize that the majority of welfare assistance goes to Caucasians.

164 Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2015 5:39:40am

re: #162 Doofus

I will withhold comment until the shooter is caught convicted.

165 Alyosha  Mar 12, 2015 5:40:15am

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

DoJ needs to call this an act of terrorism, and get the FBI involved. That’s the best way to deflect such allegations.

I seriously doubt any labeling of the incident as terrorism will deflect the accusations of the ignorant that the DoJ is in some way responsible. Everyone can agree that it should be pursued, I just hope it is not done in the martial spirit Ferguson has experienced before. Calling it terrorism might give the PD an excuse to bust out the APCs again. Not a good result.

166 Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2015 5:40:16am

re: #163 Joe Bacon

This “Ginger” has clearly “SNAPPED” big-time.

Chucky is too stupid to realize that the majority of welfare assistance goes to Caucasians.

He doesn’t care. He’s using the Hatefully Classic “Blacks are moochers!” meme.

167 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 12, 2015 5:41:13am

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

He doesn’t care. He’s using the Hatefully Classic “Blacks are moochers!” meme.

I have shoe boxes full of press clippings about welfare queens to support that thesis…

168 Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2015 5:41:20am

re: #163 Joe Bacon

This “Ginger” has clearly “SNAPPED” big-time.

Chucky is too stupid to realize that the majority of welfare assistance goes to Caucasians.

Ginger-snap doesn’t realize that these tweets have long-term ramifications. He seriously will never, ever have a real job. His entire life will now be scraping the bottom of the barrel as some C-list right-wing blogger.

169 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 5:44:38am

re: #168 Dr. Matt

Ginger-snap doesn’t realize that these tweets have long-term ramifications. He seriously will never, ever have a real job. His entire life will now be scraping the bottom of the barrel as some C-list right-wing blogger.

Well, he’ll probably never have a job in media. His tweets and blog completely counteract any creds he might have had from his professional experience as a staff writer/intern.

170 Alyosha  Mar 12, 2015 5:46:12am

re: #169 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, he’ll probably never have a job in media. His tweets and blog completely counteract any creds he might have had from his professional experience as a staff writer/intern.

How well do you reckon WorldNetDaily pays? Probably still by the word.

171 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 5:53:58am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

“A 32-year-old officer from nearby Webster Groves was shot in the face…”

I thought that had been debunked by the cop who stopped Deray. (See above, #137.)

I’m not trying to understate the seriousness of being shot, but both officers were conscious when transported. Belmar is supposed to have a presser at 10 am. Of course, he lied about where the shots came from, maybe speaking out of turn.

172 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 12, 2015 5:55:49am

re: #171 Justanotherhuman

“A 32-year-old officer from nearby Webster Groves was shot in the face…”

I thought that had been debunked by the cop who stopped Deray. (See above, #137.)

I’m not trying to understate the seriousness of being shot, but both officers were conscious when transported. Belmar is supposed to have a presser at 10 am. Of course, he lied about where the shots came from, maybe speaking out of turn.

No amount of facts are going to slow down the outpourings of righteous rage at this point.

173 Doofus  Mar 12, 2015 5:56:05am

re: #171 Justanotherhuman

There was blood on the face shield, for what that is worth.

174 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 12, 2015 6:00:06am

So much Hate & Stupid in one Tweet==>

175 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:00:42am

re: #173 Doofus

Where did you get that? Were you there? If so, did the bullet pierce the face shield or did the bullet hit elsewhere and deposit blood under the face shield?

176 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 12, 2015 6:02:59am

re: #174 The Mother Of All Pies

So much Hate & Stupid in one Tweet==>

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Yes, all we have to do is nuke Mecca and Muslims all over the world will realize the superiority of Christianity, Democracy and America and all convert and live peacefully…

177 Alyosha  Mar 12, 2015 6:03:02am

re: #174 The Mother Of All Pies

Because destroying holy sites pacifies believers… K.

178 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 12, 2015 6:03:17am

re: #175 Justanotherhuman

Where did you get that? Were you there? If so, did the bullet pierce the face shield or did the bullet hit elsewhere and deposit blood under the face shield?

Orbital blowout.

179 lawhawk  Mar 12, 2015 6:05:14am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that the news brings bad tidings from Ferguson as two cops were shot overnight and that the facts of the shooting are still under dispute.

I am withholding judgment as to what exactly happened, but also have no trust in the local police to conduct an investigation of any sort. Not the FPD. Not the county police. Not the local prosecutor. None of them.

Could it have been a protester? Possibly.
Could it have been an agent provocateur? Possibly.
Could it have been someone who used the protests as cover for carrying out violent acts? Possibly.

The motives are uncertain because we still don’t know much about what transpired.

But even more basic than that:
What is the condition of the officers (where were they shot)?
Where did the shots come from?
How many shots were fired in total?
What kind of weapon was likely involved?

Those who have been involved in the protests have been pretty good in avoiding violence with the cops, so why would someone shoot a bunch of cops on the day when the police chief announces he’s resigning (and getting a golden parachute too)? That comes days after other city officials announced their resignations.

180 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 12, 2015 6:07:11am

Good morning Lizards.

From catching up a bit on comments it looks like a good time to be off the web. Lots of idiots spouting stupidity and I need to keep my blood pressure down.

181 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 12, 2015 6:08:00am

re: #115 Nyet

Now 206K sigs: petitions.whitehouse.gov

210,853 right now with mine added in.

182 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 12, 2015 6:09:16am
Alas, this pufferfish has shuffled off this mortal coil
183 Doofus  Mar 12, 2015 6:09:58am

re: #175 Justanotherhuman

nypost.com
Also pic#7 from re: #158 Doofus

184 lawhawk  Mar 12, 2015 6:10:16am

Witness testimony can be notoriously unreliable but when so many people claim that the shots were fired from a given location, it makes you wonder if there’s something to the claim.

185 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:11:22am

Wish I were more mechanically inclined. Have to have a new serpentine belt put on and the EVAC system diagnosed (code came up PO440 and looked it up). Just getting ready for an inspection later. So, this will no doubt be a couple of hundred, at least. I hate spending money…

186 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 12, 2015 6:12:32am
187 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:13:18am

At least I was able to put oil in the engine, so I suspect this engine is using a lot, since I got an oil change about 6 wks ago; it has just over 150K on it. I could tell just by the engine sound that it needed some. Love this little car, though. : )

188 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 12, 2015 6:15:15am

Teaser for when I get the *good* photos off my camera. This was iPhone from a moving car. (I was not driving it at the time!)

189 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 12, 2015 6:15:27am

re: #179 lawhawk

Could it have been a protester? Possibly.
Could it have been an agent provocateur? Possibly.
Could it have been someone who used the protests as cover for carrying out violent acts? Possibly.

It is already fully fixed in the underdeveloped minds of too many that the DoJ report was not just a bunch of Feds interfering in a police department doing its job of keeping order, it was an open call for mob revenge against the officers of Ferguson.

No investigation is needed to affirm their version of the Truth.

190 lawhawk  Mar 12, 2015 6:15:42am

Should it surprise anyone that Hoft sides with the beleaguered cops? Of course he does. Even though the cops and the entire criminal justice system is rigged to perpetuate itself and to keep minorities in their place:

191 lawhawk  Mar 12, 2015 6:16:15am

re: #188 Feline Fearless Leader

BB60? The USS Alabama… Nice!

192 Doofus  Mar 12, 2015 6:17:13am

re: #185 Justanotherhuman

Serpentine belts aren’t expensive, but emission codes can be troublesome. I wish you luck. Year make and model and mileage? Or rather not say.

193 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 6:17:13am

re: #190 lawhawk

Should it surprise anyone that Hoft sides with the beleaguered cops? Of course he does. Even though the cops and the entire criminal justice system is rigged to perpetuate itself and to keep minorities in their place:

I’m surprised he didn’t start with his trademark, “It begins.”

194 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 12, 2015 6:18:14am

re: #190 lawhawk

Should it surprise anyone that Hoft sides with the beleaguered cops? Of course he does. Even though the cops and the entire criminal justice system is rigged to perpetuate itself and to keep minorities in their place:

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Just what I was saying in #189…underdeveloped minds.

195 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:18:49am

re: #183 Doofus

nypost.com
Also pic#7 from

OK, that could have come from elsewhere, neck, shoulder as spray; I don’t see a bullet hole there. Doesn’t say whose shield it was, either.

196 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:21:01am

re: #192 Doofus

2002 Saturn SL1. The Saturn I had before was a 1997 SL2 with over 300K on it. Serpentine belt replacement is $80 by a mechanic.

197 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 12, 2015 6:23:15am

re: #191 lawhawk

BB60? The USS Alabama… Nice!

Yep. Have been down in Pensacola and Mobile. Spent a few hours in a museum at NAS Pensacola yesterday. :)

The park with the USS Alabama also has a sub (USS Drum - Gato class) a hanger with a bunch of warbirds in it, and a number of tanks and artillery pieces as well.

The tour of the Alabama is self-guided and you can get on 8-9 different decks. You can enter the after-parts of all three 16-in gun turrets, and even a few of the 5-in gun turrets. However, you don’t get to go down into the main barbettes or engine spaces. (In comparison, you can get down that far in a tour of the USS North Carolina.)

198 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:24:01am

re: #192 Doofus

Last year the code came up as the intake manifold gasket and it cost $225 to replace. That’s a pretty standard price.

199 lawhawk  Mar 12, 2015 6:24:29am

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

Speaking of bans from Twitter, it seems that Twitter will now drop a ban hammer on those who doxx or engage in revenge porn via Twitter.

Sounds great, except that the reality is that Twitter will continue to engage in revolving door suspensions even though cretins like Chuckles pursues doxxing and other harassment on their service.

200 Doofus  Mar 12, 2015 6:25:24am

re: #196 Justanotherhuman

I hope the fix is easy, car is just broke in!! saturnfans.com

I had my Service Engine Soon light come on about two weeks ago. I scanned it and got a P0440 which is a generic “Evaporative Emission Control System Malfunction”. The auto parts stores will try to sell you a replacement gas cap when this code shows up, and it could be a leak at the gas cap, but that’s not what I found.

There is a very simple emission system diagram on a sticker under the hood. It shows two vacuum lines going to the throttle body (one from the fuel pressure regulator and one from the a purge solenoid.

I capped off the port on the purge solenoid (vented the fuel vapor into the air), reset the code and drove the car. The light never came back on. Therefore I knew that the problem was not at the purge solenoid.

There are two components to the emissions system: canister purge solenoid and canister vent solenoid. The canister purge solenoid (or purge valve) is located between the right end of the engine and the right strut tower. The purge solenoid is normally closed. But when ordered to do so by the PCM, it allows the fuel vapors that are stored in the EVAP canister to be drawn into the intake manifold, where they’re mixed with intake air, then burned along with the normal air/fuel mixture, under certain operating conditions. The PCM-controlled EVAP canister purge control solenoid valve also controls this vapor flow.

The canister vent solenoid is located near the top of the fuel filler neck is part of the EVAP system’s leak diagnostics. The vent solenoid is normally open to allow outside air to flow through the vent, through the EVAP canister and into the fuel tank which maintains atmospheric pressure inside the fuel tank. But when energized by the PCM the vent solenoid closes and seals off the EVAP system for inspection and maintenance tests and for OBD-II leak and pressure tests.

I found that the vent line going from the fuel filler neck to a rubber hose that goes to the tank (or charcoal canister?) was rusted. In fact it was rusted enough that apparently there was a hole in it. I bought some 5/16 brake line and used my tube bender and replaced the rusted tube. I reset the code again and it hasn’t come on since. The rusted line runs right next to the plastic filler tube that goes from the fuel filler neck to the tank.

201 lawhawk  Mar 12, 2015 6:25:36am
202 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:26:18am

re: #199 lawhawk

Even if it were a “permanent ban”, those jerks would just change their sign on names and do their foul business as usual.

203 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 6:28:46am

re: #197 Feline Fearless Leader

Yep. Have been down in Pensacola and Mobile. Spent a few hours in a museum at NAS Pensacola yesterday. :)

The park with the USS Alabama also has a sub (USS Drum - Gato class) a hanger with a bunch of warbirds in it, and a number of tanks and artillery pieces as well.

The tour of the Alabama is self-guided and you can get on 8-9 different decks. You can enter the after-parts of all three 16-in gun turrets, and even a few of the 5-in gun turrets. However, you don’t get to go down into the main barbettes or engine spaces. (In comparison, you can get down that far in a tour of the USS North Carolina.)

I gotta question. Who maintains these ships, the Navy or someone else? I ask because the former Soviet carrier I visited last month was a derelict that no one seemed to be maintaining well at all.

204 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 12, 2015 6:28:53am

re: #202 Justanotherhuman

Even if it were a “permanent ban”, those jerks would just change their sign on names and do their foul business as usual.

Which is why Twitter is wroth to spend the necessary money and effort to establish the employee section that would be charged to do nothing else than moderate.

205 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:29:45am

re: #200 Doofus

I just hope it’s a bug, not a feature, of this model. : )

206 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:30:36am

re: #204 Feline Fearless Leader

Which is why Twitter is wroth to spend the necessary money and effort to establish the employee section that would be charged to do nothing else than moderate.

Even though they’re making billions. A pox on Twitter.

207 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 12, 2015 6:32:53am

re: #203 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I gotta question. Who maintains these ships, the Navy or someone else? I ask because the former Soviet carrier I visited last month was a derelict that no one seemed to be maintaining well at all.

Private memorial company that solicits donations. The Navy decommissioned the ship, struck it from the lists, and then donated it to the state of Alabama (IIRC). The state probably paid towards moving it and some initial docking - but it’s a separate firm now. If no one wants the ship and is willing to pay towards it, it gets scrapped.

Some of the memorial companies are fairly well off. The USS Midway in San Diego, for instance, is well funded. Some of scraping by, like the one that has a destroyer escort moored in the Hudson at Albany, NY. The better funded ones generally have more extensive tours as they can afford to fix up access to more areas of the ship and then maintain it.

208 Doofus  Mar 12, 2015 6:33:09am

re: #205 Justanotherhuman

My car is going in tomorrow for a code P047f. There is nothing I hate more than not knowing when I bring my car to the mechanic. The part should be on warranty but we shall see. An honest mechanic is worth his/her weight in gold. Once again I wish you well.

209 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 12, 2015 6:35:06am
Sand ripples

Tybee Island (near Savannah) on a sand spit while the tide was out.

Geology note - you can find these features in sand stones. Indication that it was water-formed and what sort of area on a river or sea.

210 Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2015 6:36:07am

Watching all the various videos of the LEOs reaction from last night makes one thing clear: They had no idea where the shots came from. Clearly they were confused as where the shots came from. Blaming the protesters is the path of least resistance.

211 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:37:27am

re: #208 Doofus

My grandson first went to these guys and was pleased w/the service. A couple of ex-race shop guys opened this garage and they appear to know what they’re doing, so I have some confidence—they also get a good bit of business, and I’m taking it in tomorrow when they’ll do the diagnostic and order any parts needed, so I can keep driving. It doesn’t appear to affect the driving at all, but all vehicles after 1996 have to have the emissions inspection, and I don’t mind that if it helps keep the air clean. : )

212 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 6:38:56am

re: #207 Feline Fearless Leader

Private memorial company that solicits donations. The Navy decommissioned the ship, struck it from the lists, and then donated it to the state of Alabama (IIRC). The state probably paid towards moving it and some initial docking - but it’s a separate firm now. If no one wants the ship and is willing to pay towards it, it gets scrapped.

Some of the memorial companies are fairly well off. The USS Midway in San Diego, for instance, is well funded. Some of scraping by, like the one that has a destroyer escort moored in the Hudson at Albany, NY. The better funded ones generally have more extensive tours as they can afford to fix up access to more areas of the ship and then maintain it.

Hm. Somehow I doubt old Soviet navy guys are going to drop money on a ship owned by a Chinese bank, or a Russian bank, for that matter.

The ship Minsk in Shenzhen does not have guided tours, but still charges about $25 to let you walk around the flight deck and poke around the few places below deck that are open. The ship needs paint everywhere and the few aircraft on display have seen better days, too. I think the Soviets unloaded it on some South Korean with more money than sense, who sold it to some Chinese investors with the same problem. I’d wager it hasn’t had any real maintenance since it was first sold in 1998.

213 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 12, 2015 6:39:14am

re: #210 Dr. Matt

Watching all the various videos of the LEOs reaction from last night makes one thing clear: They had no idea where the shots came from. Clearly they were confused as where the shots came from. Blaming the protesters is the path of least resistance. obvious because they are subhuman rabble

214 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:40:04am

re: #208 Doofus

“exhaust pressure control valve stuck open” ?

forums.tdiclub.com

215 Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2015 6:42:12am

Whoa:

216 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:42:32am

Story being updated.

Man held ‘for helping UK Syria trio’
Breaking news
Man arrested for allegedly helping three UK girls cross into Syria, Turkish government source says

bbc.com

217 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:44:24am

re: #215 Dr. Matt

Who in hell would sign to have their child subjected to “corporal punishment” anyway?

Horrible.

218 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 12, 2015 6:45:02am

re: #212 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Hm. Somehow I doubt old Soviet navy guys are going to drop money on a ship owned by a Chinese bank, or a Russian bank, for that matter.

The ship Minsk in Shenzhen does not have guided tours, but still charges about $25 to let you walk around the flight deck and poke around the few places below deck that are open. The ship needs paint everywhere and the few aircraft on display have seen better days, too. I think the Soviets unloaded it on some South Korean with more money than sense, who sold it to some Chinese investors with the same problem. I’d wager it hasn’t had any real maintenance since it was first sold in 1998.

It’s a lot of work. Need to keep everything painted, restrooms and display/museum rooms maintained, and also have lighting and safety equipment installed. (And A/C running in at least part of the ship.)

One reason the big museums are running towards hangers/large buildings for displaying aircraft and tanks is that you cut down on the weathering and can display in accurate paint jobs rather than more and more coats of gray or olive drab paint.

219 lawhawk  Mar 12, 2015 6:47:53am

re: #203 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The Navy ship museums are generally operated by private foundations/charitable groups.

Here in NYC, the Intrepid is a private foundation, and had to raise a ton of money to repaint and renovate spaces a few years back (they had to pull the ship out of the muck in the Hudson River so that they could bring her to drydock for doing the repairs, but the first attempt failed so they had to get assistance to dredge the water around the hull).

Other ships around the nation face similar issues - the need to raise funds to maintain the ships and keep exhibits current. Never ending tasks.

But that’s better than sending these historic ships to the scrappers. And more than a few have ended up there - most recently the USS Ranger since there was no one with the financial backing to take it off the Navy’s hands.

220 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 6:51:59am

re: #219 lawhawk

The Navy ship museums are generally operated by private foundations/charitable groups.

Here in NYC, the Intrepid is a private foundation, and had to raise a ton of money to repaint and renovate spaces a few years back (they had to pull the ship out of the muck in the Hudson River so that they could bring her to drydock for doing the repairs, but the first attempt failed so they had to get assistance to dredge the water around the hull).

Other ships around the nation face similar issues - the need to raise funds to maintain the ships and keep exhibits current. Never ending tasks.

But that’s better than sending these historic ships to the scrappers. And more than a few have ended up there - most recently the USS Ranger since there was no one with the financial backing to take it off the Navy’s hands.

Pretty much explains why we’ll never see a libertarian navy anywhere in the world.

221 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 6:52:16am

re: #218 Feline Fearless Leader

I was lucky enough to be on a “dependents” sail on the USS Lexington in San Diego. It was decommissioned in 1991 (?) and moved to Corpus Christi, TX as a museum ship. Built for the war effort and commissioned as I was turning 2 yrs old in Feb 1943, 20 yrs before I went out to sea on it. : )

222 BlueGrl21  Mar 12, 2015 6:54:07am

Good morning from a relatively sane corner of Texas!

I have a strong philosophy that you don’t look away. You bear witness to the Holocaust, the genocide around the world, the beatings and blood and deaths here in the U.S. I don’t shy away from even the worst of the pictures because I am going to be a damn witness to the suffering of those people. I am not going to say, “I see no reason to trouble myself with that.” There is every reason in the world to trouble myself with that.

But, I am torn between my determination to witness and absolute exhaustion with these racist assholes. It’s also personal…spousal unit is a basketball coach and we have his team with us constantly. Sunday dinner (Walking Dead, dude!), crashing with us during the week as needed. 15 young black men. We are lily white. They’re our kids. They’re very aware of Ferguson and OU and we are very aware that part of having them with us as much as possible is a form of protecting them too. I hate that having white people with them all of the time affords them a certain kind of protection. HATE it. But, I won’t deny it. Neither do they.

However, I see the looks we get when those players are being trailed by 7 white kids who think they hung the moon and they’re picking them up and holding their hands and playing tag. When they call me “mom” and throw an arm around me. It makes people happy to see us all together. So, I guess that’s our way of shutting this crap down…proving it’s all bullshit. We WILL be a family and all of those idiots can kiss my ass.

Anyway, I’m rambling. Good morning. The whole pray for your enemies goal isn’t going down too well right now. Or else my prayers are not of the forgiving kind.

223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 12, 2015 6:57:33am

re: #222 BlueGrl21

I grew up as a minority: a white kid in Gary, Indiana in the 1960’s…we were the only white family on the block. I will not tolerate racist statements from lilly-white assholes who grew up in the suburbs.

224 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 12, 2015 7:03:39am
225 ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2015 7:03:54am

re: #115 Nyet

Now 206K sigs: petitions.whitehouse.gov

re: #181 William Barnett-Lewis

210,853 right now with mine added in.

Thanks for that link! I just signed up too.

Also preparing an email for Senator Rob “Not Really Here” Portman.

Oh yeah…good morning all. I woke up in the middle of the night and heard the Ferguson crap. First thought in my head was someone did it to get the police to go against the protesters.

Of course I had no idea…but it just seemed strange. If the protesters were ever going to take on the police in a violent way it would have happened back last year in the heat of the Brown shooting.

This event should have had the African American citizens a little more calm in their protests because the did get the DOJ findings and a bunch of people getting kicked out of jobs.

On the flip side…the findings would be seen to be Obama and Holder and that would piss off the usual idiots and they do have them some fine guns.

We shall see…if we ever get the truth. That is the hard part…truth.

226 ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2015 7:08:28am

re: #185 Justanotherhuman

Wish I were more mechanically inclined. Have to have a new serpentine belt put on and the EVAC system diagnosed (code came up PO440 and looked it up). Just getting ready for an inspection later. So, this will no doubt be a couple of hundred, at least. I hate spending money…

Justanotherhuman…keep in mind that it is good to replace things like the water pump and anything else that is considered maintenance while doing a serpentine belt. There are also belt tensioners that should be replaced. It is a fairly extensive job and while they have the front of the engine tore apart…replace all the stuff in the area of the job. Saves money and time in the long run. You might do a search to see what mechanics recommend.

227 Nyet  Mar 12, 2015 7:10:30am

I knew it, I’m surrounded by assholes!
m.thenational.ae

228 Timothy Watson  Mar 12, 2015 7:12:22am

re: #227 Nyet

I knew it, I’m surrounded by assholes!
m.thenational.ae

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229 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 12, 2015 7:12:54am

re: #225 ObserverArt

<snip>….On the flip side…the findings would be seen to be Obama and Holder and that would piss off the usual idiots and they do have them some fine guns. ….<snip>

This right here is a really good point. Who’s got all the sniper rifles? Ferguson-protester-type people? Not hardly.

230 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 7:13:24am

re: #226 ObserverArt

Justanotherhuman…keep in mind that it is good to replace things like the water pump and anything else that is considered maintenance while doing a serpentine belt. There are also belt tensioners that should be replaced. It is a fairly extensive job and while they have the front of the engine tore apart…replace all the stuff in the area of the job. Saves money and time in the long run. You might do a search to see what mechanics recommend.

I once had a book written by a couple who believed in preventive maintenance for cars. They had recommendations for when various components should be replaced before they crapped out. Their rationale was a properly maintained car should run for at least 100,000 miles. It was written about 25 years ago, or maybe further back than that, when 100,000 miles for a Detroit make was considered unlikely.

Now, if I could remember the title …

231 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 7:14:29am

re: #229 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This right here is a really good point. Who’s got all the sniper rifles? Ferguson-protester-type people? Not hardly.

Would a hunting rifle provide the same accuracy? I’m gun-stupid.

232 Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2015 7:15:28am

re: #228 Timothy Watson

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233 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 12, 2015 7:17:02am

re: #231 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Would a hunting rifle provide the same accuracy? I’m gun-stupid.

Oh, probably. I’m just thinking urban black folks don’t have a whole lot of them, either. The ones I know won’t even go camping.

234 Romantic Heretic  Mar 12, 2015 7:19:33am

re: #197 Feline Fearless Leader

Jealous.

235 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 7:21:20am

re: #233 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Oh, probably. I’m just thinking urban black folks don’t have a whole lot of them, either. The ones I know won’t even go camping.

Hunting and target-shooting, at least in Kentucky, always seemed to be mostly a white person’s hobby in my experience. Given the number of shootings recently, if I were an AA hunter, I’d be very nervous about walking around anywhere with a hunting rifle, even with a safety orange vest on.

236 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 7:22:02am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

One thing I learned early on being a single white mother in the early 60s was that I had a lot more in common with poor women of color in the same boat than even other divorced white women in the suburbs or married ones, either, with whom I had a kind of uneasy relationship. When Black women were finally “allowed” into the same office workforce as I was, they were the ones I cultivated and encouraged and cheered on to do better things because I knew it wasn’t as easy for them as it might be for me, even up into the 1990s. I remember the racist slurs for doing that, also. One guy at the local gas co said to me, “Only G and n****** ride the bus.” When I finally got a car through the credit union, I made it a point to give the young teen who was in a DE program (HS) a ride to her bus every day. She was the only Black person in our office and she was a kid. Then I got in trouble for posting an EEOC notice on the bulletin board. After 5 yrs, I’d had enough, and was ready to get real political, in 1969, so I quit. You have to remember that I was in the South and born in the South, and had been trying to overcome my racist upbringing for some years at that point.

237 BlueGrl21  Mar 12, 2015 7:22:32am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I grew up as a minority: a white kid in Gary, Indiana in the 1960’s…we were the only white family on the block. I will not tolerate racist statements from lilly-white assholes who grew up in the suburbs.

Because we’re white, people who do not know us will occasionally drop something into conversation. My husband can do sarcastic asshole as well as Krager (no offense, my friend) and he has every fact, every statistic, every incident in his head like Rain Man. He is clinical, impersonal, and ruthless. For him, all of his players he’s coached over 17 years, all of his students, are in front of him in his mind every day. He is brutal with racists.

I approach it differently…I tell stories. I make it very personal. I call them out for saying they’re, “not really racist.” No anger, just calm and kind. It can be done and it’s all I’ve seen work. Then I go home and throw things and try to convince myself I might have gotten through.

The husband doesn’t care. He’s goes for the shiv.

238 Romantic Heretic  Mar 12, 2015 7:23:50am

re: #220 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Pretty much explains why we’ll never see a libertarian navy anywhere in the world.

In a libertarian world everyone will be nice, polite, ethical and sane.

239 Timothy Watson  Mar 12, 2015 7:25:53am

re: #232 Targetpractice

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240 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 12, 2015 7:26:16am

re: #220 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Pretty much explains why we’ll never see a libertarian navy anywhere in the world.

We had one once in the Caribbean in the 1700’s…

241 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 7:27:51am

re: #238 Romantic Heretic

In a libertarian world everyone will be nice, polite, ethical and sane.

Or dead.

242 lawhawk  Mar 12, 2015 7:29:04am

Chief Belmar also said that they were lucky they didn’t lose two cops last night. And Ferguson protesters are lucky that the cops didn’t kill a bunch of protesters because the FPD simply can’t help itself to using excessive force whenever it suits them.

Moreover, any talk of a takeover of the FPD by the County Police ignores that the county PD is just as bad as the FPD. The numbers bear witness to the disproportionate policing of minorities by the county PD (that’s the MO AG motor vehicle stop report from 2013). It’s actually worse than FPD.

The disparity index for minority stops by the County PD: 1.5
The disparity index for minority stops by FPD: 1.37.

Numbers greater than 1 indicate over-representation. So, the County PD is even worse

Every way you cut the County PD data, they give minorities the shaft. 29% are given a warning versus a citation. 62% are given citations. For whites, the numbers are: 33% given warnings, 60.7% given citations.

The County PD isn’t the solution to Ferguson’s problem - a wholesale consolidation and elimination of all the local police departments in the area, firing top officials throughout the region, and installing new officials who aren’t putting revenue generation as the key factor in policing but community policing and public safety.

243 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 7:30:27am

re: #237 BlueGrl21

Because we’re white, people who do not know us will occasionally drop something into conversation. My husband can do sarcastic asshole as well as Krager (no offense, my friend) and he has every fact, every statistic, every incident in his head like Rain Man. He is clinical, impersonal, and ruthless. For him, all of his players he’s coached over 17 years, all of his students, are in front of him in his mind every day. He is brutal with racists.

I approach it differently…I tell stories. I make it very personal. I call them out for saying they’re, “not really racist.” No anger, just calm and kind. It can be done and it’s all I’ve seen work. Then I go home and throw things and try to convince myself I might have gotten through.

The husband doesn’t care. He’s goes for the shiv.

You two can do the good cop - bad cop interview technique. You soften them up, and he goes for the gut, or he wears them down, and you sweet talk them to sanity.

Of course, you might end up with fewer house guests as time goes on.

244 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 7:30:40am

Talk about being non-self aware…

245 Lidane  Mar 12, 2015 7:32:02am

*facepalm*

246 BlueGrl21  Mar 12, 2015 7:32:03am

re: #239 Timothy Watson

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People don’t get why this is one of my all-time favorite movies. It’s just brilliant.

“That is not a plan. It’s barely a concept.”

247 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 7:34:37am

This:

St. Louis police chief: No long-term injuries for 2 officers shot in Ferguson during protest - @AP
see original on twitter.com

and this:

St. Louis Police Chief Belmar believes a pistol, hand gun may have been used; found some shell casings, not definite yet - @JohnHenryKSDK
see original on twitter.com

Is he psychic or just a bullshitter?

248 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 7:34:54am

re: #242 lawhawk

UpChuck referred to that report in his blog, without mentioning specific figures. He only said that Ferguson’s record was best in Missouri (??). If that’s true, then Missouri is a mess.

249 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2015 7:36:32am

re: #246 BlueGrl21

People don’t get why this is one of my all-time favorite movies. It’s just brilliant.

“That is not a plan. It’s barely a concept.”

There are so many great one-liners in GotG that you have to watch it several times to catch them.

250 Lidane  Mar 12, 2015 7:38:59am

re: #246 BlueGrl21

People don’t get why this is one of my all-time favorite movies. It’s just brilliant.

“That is not a plan. It’s barely a concept.”

“I am Groot.”

“Well that’s just as fascinating as the first 89 times. What is wrong with Giving Tree here?”

“Well he don’t know talkin’ good like me and you, so his vocabulistics is limited to “I” and “am” and “Groot,” exclusively in that order.”

“Well I tell you what, that’s gonna wear real thin, real fast, bud.”

251 freetoken  Mar 12, 2015 7:39:55am

Is this an attempt to escape the influence of the pot-smoking libertarian college students influencing this political event?

Iowa Republicans Shake Up The Famed Straw Poll

The famous Iowa Straw Poll will have a new location in the Hawkeye State for the first time since the poll was created in 1979, the Republican Party of Iowa announced Thursday morning.

The Central Iowa Expo Grounds in Boone, Iowa will host this year’s event on August 8th.

[…]

Or maybe the GOP just doesn’t want to be seen in on the grounds of a university with a bunch of science geeks?

Anyway, Boone is only a few minutes drive west of Ames, so I don’t know if the attendance will be any different. It is west, though, and that starts getting into wingnut-land (Steve King’s district), away from the Democratic party dominated Story county (home of Ames.)

Anyway, I find it sort of ironic that the Republican governor admits this event isn’t so important to the GOP anymore.

252 lawhawk  Mar 12, 2015 7:39:56am

re: #248 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s hardly the best in the state, it’s worse than average on racial profiling. Several communities around STL are as bad or worse, and the County PD is involved in that discussion as well.

But anyone claiming that the FPD is best is clearly delusional or thinks best means something other than what it really means.

Or, Chuckles thinks that FPD is best at being a bunch of racist cops who use their positions of power to subjugate and keep minorities in their place. Which, in light of his recent tweets, seems to be exactly what he has in mind.

253 Justanotherhuman  Mar 12, 2015 7:42:48am

re: #251 freetoken

Or maybe it’s just a matter of a university not wanting a bunch of idiots on their campus?

254 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 12, 2015 7:55:00am

re: #249 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They got my dick message!

255 WhatEVs  Mar 12, 2015 8:32:27am

re: #96 Amory Blaine

*ahem

With Iran letter, Tom Cotton emerges as leading GOP national security hawk

From the article:

Cotton’s views on national security appear to have been shaped in large part by his military service.

“I certainly haven’t forgotten that Iran killed hundreds of troops in Iraq,” he said.

I wonder how he feels about Germany. Or Japan. Or Italy.

256 Patricia Kayden  Mar 12, 2015 9:44:25am

re: #247 Justanotherhuman

This:

St. Louis police chief: No long-term injuries for 2 officers shot in Ferguson during protest - @AP
see original on twitter.com

Glad to hear that the police officers won’t suffer any long lasting injuries. Hope they catch the perpetrator soon. These shootings, in my mind, do not sully the protests. People have a right to speak out when they feel wronged. That’s the American way.


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