The Republican Party Is Heading Toward a Cliff

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In all the years I’ve followed US politics I’ve never seen such blatant disrespect for the office of the President. The Republican Party is so deranged by their hatred of Obama — who was elected twice by the American people — that they’re actively working to damage the standing of the United States in the world. Anything goes as long as they can subvert everything Obama does. It’s sickening, and wrong, and is taking the country to a very bad place.

WASHINGTON — The White House delivered a fresh warning to the Senate late Saturday to stay out of negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program, asserting that pending legislation would likely have a “profoundly negative impact” on the ongoing talks.

President Barack Obama’s chief of staff, Denis McDonough, told Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker in a letter that legislation sponsored by the Tennessee Republican would go far beyond ensuring a role for Congress in any deal with Iran.

“Instead, the legislation would potentially prevent any deal from succeeding by suggesting that Congress must vote to ‘approve’ any deal,” McDonough said. He criticized a provision that would eliminate Obama’s authority to lift some sanctions on Iran as part of any agreement.

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1 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2015 12:46:57pm

RAH, RAH, TEAM!!11!!!

2 Teukka  Mar 15, 2015 12:47:08pm
When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movements become headlong - faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thoughts of obstacles and forget the precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it’s too late.

— Frank Herbert (Dune)

Somehow, the quote feels appropriate for this context. Dunno why.

3 Lidane  Mar 15, 2015 12:49:20pm

And they’re going over that cliff following a freshman Senator that doesn’t even realize that Tehran is Iran’s capital:

“Moreover we have to stand up to Iran’s attempts to drive for regional dominance. They already control Tehran increasingly they control Damascus and Beirut and Baghdad and now Sana’a as well. They do all that without a nuclear weapon. imagine what they would do with a nuclear weapon.”

4 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 12:53:48pm

re: #3 Lidane

imagine what they would do with a nuclear weapon.

No, you tell me, Tom—I’m interested. What will they do with A nuclear weapon? I’m all ears!

5 unproven innocence  Mar 15, 2015 12:55:13pm

…testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated can long endure. — Lincoln

6 Mattand  Mar 15, 2015 12:56:24pm

The GOP has been heading for a cliff for the last 8 years the same way Iran is always 5-10 years from a nuke.

In other words: it’s a meme people like to repeat. They’re not going anywhere. Why? Because people keep voting for them. These guys only fear one thing: losing re-election. Seriously, how many of these guys have constituents that will look at that idiotic letter and not put them back in office?

None. Zero. Zilch.

This party has all but renamed itself God’s Chosen White Knights of the Republic and they keep gaining seats, for fuck’s sake. Yes, I know gerrymandering has a lot to do with it, but where are the precious Independents who supposedly are not beholden to any ideology? From what you read, you’d think that brain trust could easily negate any ill effect from gerrymandering.

I’m sorry, but this “GOP is sidling up next to the Whigs in the political afterlife” stuff is horseshit.

7 bratwurst  Mar 15, 2015 12:58:40pm

Just wait until Hillary is officially running for POTUS!

Of course, the fact she is not officially running for anything right now isn’t stopping some of the worst people in the world writing for one of the worst publications in the world from letting their misogyny flag fly!

I am sure there are MANY male political figures that Goldberg has given a derogatory nickname related to a body part.

8 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2015 12:58:51pm

UpChuck is finally awake, but apparently still drunk.

9 Teukka  Mar 15, 2015 1:00:43pm

re: #3 Lidane

imagine what they would do with a nuclear weapon.

Going with my ongoing movie quotes theme:

I’m not afraid of the man who wants 10 nuclear weapons, Colonel. I’m terrified of the man who only wants one.

— Dr. Julia Kelley in “The Peacemaker” (1997)

10 lawhawk  Mar 15, 2015 1:01:00pm

Back when Obama was first elected, I posted that I would stand in the loyal opposition. Turns out that Obama exceeded my expectations and the GOP showed their true colors not long after.

The GOP isn’t about being the loyal opposition, they are actively opposing the President in all ways, both foreign and domestic. While they’re more entitled to do so on domestic issues, it’s the foreign policy craziness that the GOPers like Tom Cotton are engaging in that is beyond the pale.

It’s horrifying to see the GOP going down this route, if only because it means that governance will be even more difficult in the future.

But also know this; if the Democrats acted as inane and insane as the GOP has been to this point, the GOP would be seeking impeachment and demanding recall elections for every last person who signed on to that letter. They’d be using it as a rallying point to show just how unserious the Democrats were about foreign policy and how they are not to be trusted with any power in government.

Come to think of it - the Democrats should pursue that - using the letter as proof that the GOP is more interested in scoring points in politics than engaging in serious foreign policy.

11 Kragar  Mar 15, 2015 1:01:28pm

“Whenever he didn’t get his way … he would call Little Rock. The next thing we know … at court and different meetings, he’d say he’d called Cecile, or Cecile is OK with it, and Cecile said this is what you need to do,” Hart said. “He dropped her name in every conversation.”

Craig Hart said that Harris rushed through one meeting because he was going to be late for an appointment in Little Rock. He said Harris told him he’d have to speed to get there on time, but it was OK because he has special legislative plates and the Arkansas State Police would look the other way.

“That’s the kind of statement he would make to make us think he was special,” Craig Hart said. “He gave the impression that rules didn’t apply to him.”

12 Belafon  Mar 15, 2015 1:01:51pm

re: #6 Mattand

I mostly agree, but going off a cliff is not the end of anything. “It’s not the fall that gets you, it’s the sudden stop at the bottom.” They are going off a cliff and are attempting to drag the rest of us with them. That’s what makes them different from Whigs and what we are worried about.

13 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 1:03:35pm

re: #6 Mattand

No, but it’s possible for them to overreach. 2006 and 2008 happened. If the GOP goes crazy enough and we defy the MSM by calling enough attention to it, something similar could happen again. Maybe. Fingers crossed.

14 Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2015 1:05:06pm

re: #4 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

No, you tell me, Tom—I’m interested. What will they do with A nuclear weapon? I’m all ears!

The only thing you can do with your first nuclear weapon—test it. Then the story would get interesting.

15 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 1:08:11pm

re: #14 Decatur Deb

The only thing you can do with your first nuclear weapon—test it. Then the story would get interesting.

If I’m right and they’re pursuing uranium enrichment instead of plutonium-producing reactors in order to follow the South Africa strategy, they probably figure a gun-type device doesn’t need testing. That’s what we thought in 1945.

16 Targetpractice  Mar 15, 2015 1:08:36pm

As bad as the GOP has gotten, it only looks to get worse as the next two years wear on:

This is how scared they are of Hillary Clinton, that they’re not investigating poor record-keeping in the State Department or the issues with emails that this administration and past ones encountered. No, it’s a committee devoted exclusively to divining if there’s anything to the rumors about what she might have had stowed away on her email server.

17 Teukka  Mar 15, 2015 1:09:41pm

re: #13 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

No, but it’s possible for them to overreach. 2006 and 2008 happened. If the GOP goes crazy enough and we defy the MSM by calling enough attention to it, something similar could happen again. Maybe. Fingers crossed.

My humble opinion is that the GOP is working itself into a position where the final straw breaks the camel back — or more literarily, the final lie which causes much of what they’ve done into question).

As to why, your guess is as good as mine. My pet theory is that they’ve been lying so long that they have lost the compass on what lies you can get away with.

Worse still, if it gets as far as many of their actions being called into question, it will affect both good and bad actions.

18 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 1:09:59pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

As bad as the GOP has gotten, it only looks to get worse as the next two years wear on:

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This is how scared they are of Hillary Clinton, that they’re not investigating poor record-keeping in the State Department or the issues with emails that this administration and past ones encountered. No, it’s a committee devoted exclusively to divining if there’s anything to the rumors about what she might have had stowed away on her email server.

Please proceed, Congressman….

19 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2015 1:10:43pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

As bad as the GOP has gotten, it only looks to get worse as the next two years wear on:

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This is how scared they are of Hillary Clinton, that they’re not investigating poor record-keeping in the State Department or the issues with emails that this administration and past ones encountered. No, it’s a committee devoted exclusively to divining if there’s anything to the rumors about what she might have had stowed away on her email server.

But 27 new VA facilities are much too costly to build all at once…

*spit*

20 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 15, 2015 1:11:20pm

re: #3 Lidane

Senator Cotton just has no recollection of the part that the GOP’s own G.W, Bush played in paving the way for Iran’s advance by gratuitously removing Iraq as a counterpoise to Iranian ambitions in the region. He and his fellows have made it impossible for any US President to be taken seriously in international negotiations.

21 lawhawk  Mar 15, 2015 1:11:28pm

re: #11 Kragar

Years back there was a huge scandal in ACS in NYC. Kids in care died and or suffered horribly. Heads rolled and new safety measures were put in place.

At a minimum, it would seem that anyone associated with oversight of the agency should sack those who are involved in this case. And the sackers themselves should be sacked for letting them get away with it for as long as they have.

22 Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2015 1:13:57pm

re: #15 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If I’m right and they’re pursuing uranium enrichment instead of plutonium-producing reactors in order to follow the South Africa strategy, they probably figure a gun-type device doesn’t need testing. That’s what we thought in 1945.

We were already at war, so use of one of our two remaining bombs amounted to a ‘Guernica’ test.

23 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2015 1:14:34pm
24 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 1:15:29pm

To add to my #15: We’re supposed to believe in the big, bad, never-admitted-they-have-it Israeli nuclear arsenal despite no tests (unless that double flash over the Indian Ocean in 1982 was an Israeli test and not a South African one, as some say.)

25 Belafon  Mar 15, 2015 1:15:30pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

But 27 new VA facilities are much too costly to build all at once…

Of course. 27 VA facilities would be signed by a Democrat; an investigation would be done by Republicans.

26 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 1:17:34pm

re: #22 Decatur Deb

We were already at war, so use of one of our two remaining bombs amounted to a ‘Guernica’ test.

Well, yeah, plus that was a year and a half’s worth of U-235 (and had to mix in some 50% stuff at that). Now to be fair, it would probably have only taken another six months to replace it.

27 Dr Lizardo  Mar 15, 2015 1:17:43pm

re: #24 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

To add to my #15: We’re supposed to believe in the big, bad, never-admitted-they-have-it Israeli nuclear arsenal despite no tests (unless that double flash over the Indian Ocean in 1982 was an Israeli test and not a South African one, as some say.)

I’d read there’s a possibility that the Vela Incident could’ve been a join South African/Israeli test. Of course, it also could’ve been a malfunction on the part of the Vela Hotel satellite.

28 Dr Lizardo  Mar 15, 2015 1:19:51pm

OT, but for you California Lizards, currently suffering from a heat wave (you have my sympathies), here’s a blast from the past. An ABC made-for-TV movie called “Heatwave!” From the glorious year of 1974.

Enjoy.

29 #FergusonFireside  Mar 15, 2015 1:20:46pm
30 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 1:20:53pm

re: #27 Dr Lizardo

I’d read there’s a possibility that the Vela Incident could’ve been a join South African/Israeli test. Of course, it also could’ve been a malfunction on the part of the Vela Hotel satellite.

Yeah, we’ll never know—nothing happened? Israeli missile, S.A. bomb? S.A. missile, Israeli bomb? Very unconvincing of anything.

31 b_sharp  Mar 15, 2015 1:22:12pm

re: #21 lawhawk

Years back there was a huge scandal in ACS in NYC. Kids in care died and or suffered horribly. Heads rolled and new safety measures were put in place.

At a minimum, it would seem that anyone associated with oversight of the agency should sack those who are involved in this case. And the sackers themselves should be sacked for letting them get away with it for as long as they have.

That’ll teach the moose not to bite my sister.

32 Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2015 1:24:10pm

re: #26 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, yeah, plus that was a year and a half’s worth of U-235 (and had to mix in some 50% stuff at that). Now to be fair, it would probably have only taken another six months to replace it.

The thinking of the time was that 6 months would have cost 2 million US, Japanese, and occupied nation lives.

(A co-worker was on a tiny Yard Minesweeper which had acted as a buoy for lines of landing craft at Okinawa. They were tagged to try their luck again on Operation Olympic. He learned to love the bomb early.)

33 Shiplord Kirel  Mar 15, 2015 1:24:19pm

Know what’s truly frightening? As deranged and disloyal as the GOP leaders are, they are the polite face of conservative America compared to the base, the embarrassed uncles who do their best to keep the clan’s savage children out of public view.

Case in point: This freeper string on, of all things, contaminated Blue Bell ice cream:
3 Kansas Hospital Patients Die From Blue Bell Ice Cream Products
The original poster focuses immediately on the usual RWNJ scapegoats and the mob takes it from there:

Is Blue Bell a unionized company? If so, that could explain the tainted products since union worker are notorious for sabotaging companies (see the GM plant in Lordstown, OH for one example among numerous others). If not, does Blue Bell hire criminal invaders? That’s another plausible explanation for this. At the frozen food section of a store, a customer I spoke with attributed it to incompetency and dirtiness of illegal alien workers.

One elaborates the scenario by adding Obammunist sabotage:

It’s not stretching things much to suspect hussein’s (ie Obama-SK) involvement as well. His regime has undertaken a series of moves to destroy the Texas economy including last year’s obola outbreak and the recent collapse of oil prices at the behest of his (hateful term) masters.

That’s right folks, a freeper thinks the President of the United States may have deliberately poisoned Texas ice cream at the behest of powerful Muslim interests and, rather than raucous derision, the theory receives polite endorsement. This is not a parody, the remarks are not cherry picked at all, and they come from the first few comments.

34 ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2015 1:25:39pm

I think Cotton got all balled up in his fuzzy head and never meant to say Tehran. He is enjoying his moment in the spotlight too much and forgot the script. Instead of Tehran it should have been…

…BENGHAZI!!!

35 Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2015 1:26:47pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel

Know what’s truly frightening? As deranged and disloyal as the GOP leaders are, they are the polite face of conservative America compared to the base, the embarrassed uncles who do their best to keep the clan’s savage children out of public view.

Case in point: This freeper string on, of all things, contaminated Blue Bell ice cream:
3 Kansas Hospital Patients Die From Blue Bell Ice Cream Products
The original poster focuses immediately on the usual RWNJ scapegoats and the mob takes it from there:

One elaborates the scenario by adding Obammunist sabotage:

That’s right folks, a freeper thinks the President of the United States may have deliberately poisoned Texas ice cream at the behest of powerful Muslim interests and, rather than raucous derision, the theory receives polite endorsement. This is not a parody, the remarks are not cherry picked at all, and they come from the first few comments.

Think of it Mandrake, children’s ice cream!!

36 b_sharp  Mar 15, 2015 1:27:04pm

I have nothing serious to say.

37 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 1:27:07pm

re: #31 b_sharp

That’ll teach the moose not to bite my sister.

When a møøse fights a mööse, who wins?

38 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 1:28:44pm

re: #32 Decatur Deb

The thinking of the time was that 6 months would have cost 2 million US, Japanese, and occupied nation lives.

(A co-worker was on a tiny Yard Minesweeper which had acted as a buoy for lines of landing craft at Okinawa. They were tagged to try their luck again on Operation Olympic. He learned to love the bomb early.)

My Dad was sent back to Hawaii after V-E day to get ready for the invasion—so I’ll always be grateful for the bomb—as horrible as that may sound.

Of course, he was a week late for everything—arrived in Oahu a week after Pearl Harbor, Normandy a week after D-day, the Ardennes a week after the Battle of the Bulge….maybe he would have landed on Kyushu a week after Olympic.

39 b_sharp  Mar 15, 2015 1:31:06pm

re: #37 Nyet

When a møøse fights a mööse, who wins?

The Canadian lumberjack.

40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 1:32:58pm

And Blue Bell ice cream? I’m pretty sure the last time I saw that, Eisenhower was president.

41 Teukka  Mar 15, 2015 1:33:31pm

News from non-MSM sources… Apparently something is happening at Novodevichy Convent right now. Waiting for confirmation and details.

42 lawhawk  Mar 15, 2015 1:33:44pm

re: #29 #FergusonFireside

The FPD claims that they’ve got someone in custody who admits to firing the shots that hit the two officers. He did so from a car.

Of course, the FPD also claims that the guy was part of the protests, even though those who have been active in the protests say that they never have seen the guy before.

Don’t quite know what to believe about it, but trusting the FPD? Sorry, I just don’t believe anything they’re selling.

43 Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2015 1:33:54pm

No warbird flyover, an hour past due. We’re on the flightpath, so someone probably blew an unobtanium part.

44 Shiplord Kirel  Mar 15, 2015 1:34:38pm

re: #27 Dr Lizardo

I’d read there’s a possibility that the Vela Incident could’ve been a join South African/Israeli test. Of course, it also could’ve been a malfunction on the part of the Vela Hotel satellite.

I come down pretty firmly on the surveillance malfunction hypothesis. RB-57s were dispatched to the area immediately to collect upper air samples and never found anything unusual. More convincingly though, post apartheid South Africa has revealed all relevant details of the former regime’s nuclear program, and no test was included.
South Africa used a refined gun type weapon design, based on enriched uranium. Israel’s program, if any of the endless speculation is to be believed, is based on plutonium from the Dimona reactor.

45 Belafon  Mar 15, 2015 1:35:08pm

re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And Blue Bell ice cream? I’m pretty sure the last time I saw that, Eisenhower was president.

It’s everywhere here in Texas.

46 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 1:35:15pm

re: #41 Teukka

News from non-MSM sources… Apparently something is happening at Novodevichy Convent right now. Waiting for confirmation and details.

Just a fire.

47 Lidane  Mar 15, 2015 1:35:55pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel

LOL @ any moron who thinks Blue Bell is unionized. Their production plants are in Texas, Oklahoma, and Alabama for a reason.

48 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2015 1:36:21pm

re: #42 lawhawk

The FPD claims that they’ve got someone in custody who admits to firing the shots that hit the two officers. He did so from a car.

Of course, the FPD also claims that the guy was part of the protests, even though those who have been active in the protests say that they never have seen the guy before.

Don’t quite know what to believe about it, but trusting the FPD? Sorry, I just don’t believe anything they’re selling.

The guy they arrested is black.
Case is closed, far as they are concerned.

49 b_sharp  Mar 15, 2015 1:37:32pm

re: #46 Nyet

Just a fire.

So, what’s up with Dobby, er Putin?

50 Teukka  Mar 15, 2015 1:37:35pm

re: #46 Nyet

Just a fire.

Ahh. Okay.
Thanks.

51 A Cranky One  Mar 15, 2015 1:38:26pm

OT but less depressing:

This guy’s dog thinks it’s a cat. /*runs away while the gettin’s good/

vox.com

52 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 1:38:54pm

re: #49 b_sharp

So, what’s up with Dobby, er Putin?

Who knows.

53 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2015 1:39:32pm
54 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 1:39:40pm

re: #46 Nyet

Just a fire.

Maybe it will turn out Vladimir Vladimirovich was killed leading the firefighting efforts? Half naked? On a horse?

55 Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2015 1:40:44pm

re: #54 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Maybe it will turn out Vladimir Vladimirovich was killed leading the firefighting efforts? Half naked? On a horse?

Or taking vows.

56 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 1:42:22pm

re: #45 Belafon

It’s everywhere here in Texas.

The US grocery market really is regional isn’t it? I go to The Grocery Outlet and am always seeing really weird brands I’ve never heard of.

57 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 1:42:29pm

re: #54 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Maybe it will turn out Vladimir Vladimirovich was killed leading the firefighting efforts? Half naked? On a horse?

He wasn’t killed, just had severe face burns. So don’t freak out when you see him with another face. It’s still your old good Dear Leader.

58 Dr Lizardo  Mar 15, 2015 1:43:23pm

re: #56 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The US grocery market really is regional isn’t it? I go to The Grocery Outlet and am always seeing really weird brands I’ve never heard of.

I miss Grocery Outlet! Wish we had it over here.

59 CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2015 1:43:43pm

re: #51 A Cranky One

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

Speaking of cats, check out the facial fur on this one. In some photos it looks more like a shaggy dog than a cat: lovemeow.com

60 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 1:44:04pm

re: #57 Nyet

He wasn’t killed, just had severe face burns. So don’t freak out when you see him with another face. It’s still your old good Dear Leader.

What if he refuses to reincarnate, like the Dalai Lama?

61 #FergusonFireside  Mar 15, 2015 1:44:14pm

re: #42 lawhawk

The FPD claims that they’ve got someone in custody who admits to firing the shots that hit the two officers. He did so from a car.

Of course, the FPD also claims that the guy was part of the protests, even though those who have been active in the protests say that they never have seen the guy before.

Don’t quite know what to believe about it, but trusting the FPD? Sorry, I just don’t believe anything they’re selling.

Seriously. That’s the basic tenor of the twitter-o-sphere as well.

62 Teukka  Mar 15, 2015 1:44:21pm

re: #46 Nyet

Just a fire.

A major one if aftonbladet.se is to be believed.

63 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 1:44:26pm

re: #59 CuriousLurker

BTW, thanks for the Lizzie Velazquez link, amazing woman.

64 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 1:45:12pm

re: #62 Teukka

The whole bell tower.

65 Teukka  Mar 15, 2015 1:46:14pm

re: #64 Nyet

The whole bell tower.

Entirely wooden or brick/mortar? If entirely wooden, I hope it gets put out soon.

66 gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2015 1:46:52pm

...

67 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 15, 2015 1:48:09pm

re: #56 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The US grocery market really is regional isn’t it? I go to The Grocery Outlet and am always seeing really weird brands I’ve never heard of.

For things like ice cream and other perishables, yes. Look at your milk freezer. This isn’t a bad thing, but just noted.

68 CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2015 1:48:35pm

re: #57 Nyet

He wasn’t killed, just had severe face burns. So don’t freak out when you see him with another face. It’s still your old good Dear Leader.

I watched a Russian movie for a change of pace last night and it made me think of you—it was long and I don’t think I understood all the subtleties, but I enjoyed it nonetheless. I also (finally) watched Freedom Riders. It was… it made me furious more than once.

69 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 15, 2015 1:48:53pm

Also, good Cesar Chavez documentary:

70 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 1:49:43pm

re: #65 Teukka

15 min ago

71 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 1:50:18pm

re: #68 CuriousLurker

What Russian movie?

72 gocart mozart  Mar 15, 2015 1:50:21pm

re: #66 gocart mozart

re: #38 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
I replied to the wrong comment. lets try again.

My Dad was sent back to Hawaii after V-E day to get ready for the invasion—so I’ll always be grateful for the bomb—as horrible as that may sound.

Of course, he was a week late for everything—arrived in Oahu a week after Pearl Harbor, Normandy a week after D-day, the Ardennes a week after the Battle of the Bulge….maybe he would have landed on Kyushu a week after Olympic.

The early worm gets eaten by the bird.

73 Decatur Deb  Mar 15, 2015 1:51:23pm

re: #70 Nyet

15 min ago

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Was it under restoration? That looks like draped scaffolding in the pic. Construction work is about the greatest risk of fire to a building.

74 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 1:51:51pm

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Apparently.

75 allegro  Mar 15, 2015 1:52:41pm

re: #66 gocart mozart

The early worm gets eaten by the bird.

The second mouse gets the cheese.

76 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 1:52:52pm

Right now:

77 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2015 1:54:16pm

re: #76 Nyet

Right now:

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wow

78 #FergusonFireside  Mar 15, 2015 1:55:04pm

re: #76 Nyet

Right now:

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Magnificently tragic.

79 CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2015 1:55:39pm

re: #71 Nyet

What Russian movie?

Oh duh, I forgot to say it was The Return. The kid that played Ivan was an amazingly good actor. I looked up both of the boys & the dad after watching it, mostly just to see what the boys look like all grown up. Sad that the boy who played Andrey died the same year the movie was released, especially since it echoed the opening scene of the movie.

80 Teukka  Mar 15, 2015 1:56:33pm

re: #78 #FergusonFireside

Magnificently tragic.

I hope this is construction site mishap.
I mean, several I’m chatting to atm can’t help but think “Reichstag Fire”. :(

81 #FergusonFireside  Mar 15, 2015 1:57:28pm

ICYMI

82 #FergusonFireside  Mar 15, 2015 1:58:13pm

re: #76 Nyet

Right now:

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That photo is art.

83 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 1:58:31pm

re: #79 CuriousLurker

Never seen it.

84 b_sharp  Mar 15, 2015 2:02:11pm

re: #76 Nyet

Right now:

[Embedded content]

That building is toast.

85 CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2015 2:03:22pm

re: #83 Nyet

Never seen it.

Looks like YouTube has the full movie (in Russian with Spanish subtitles).

86 ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2015 2:04:22pm

re: #82 #FergusonFireside

That photo is art.

From an art view it really is a beautiful photo. The color is great. All tragically so.

87 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 2:04:58pm

88 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 2:05:00pm

re: #76 Nyet

Right now:

[Embedded content]

Seriously, that’s a shame.

89 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 2:05:47pm

re: #85 CuriousLurker

Zvyagintsev is of course the director of the “controversial” Leviathan.

90 #FergusonFireside  Mar 15, 2015 2:06:35pm
91 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 2:06:40pm

re: #86 ObserverArt

From an art view it really is a beautiful photo. The color is great. All tragically so.

Like the Running Girl - great photos that never should have been.

92 jaunte  Mar 15, 2015 2:06:42pm

Novodevichy Convent
en.wikipedia.org

93 Teukka  Mar 15, 2015 2:07:22pm

Re: Convent Fire - RT Livestream

94 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 2:10:35pm

re: #90 #FergusonFireside

[Embedded content]

Now if we could just show all the proles who think they’re bourgeois how ridiculously wrong they are, we could turn things around in this country.

95 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 2:10:50pm

re: #93 Teukka

Looks like the fire is mostly out, but hard to say what remains and whether it’s salvageable.

96 CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2015 2:11:28pm

re: #89 Nyet

Zvyagintsev is of course the director of the “controversial” Leviathan.

I’ve never heard of Leviathan as I don’t follow movies really. If somehting happens to filter through and catch my attention, then I watch it. I just looked it up, sounds interesting. Why was it controversial?

97 #FergusonFireside  Mar 15, 2015 2:11:31pm

:(

98 jaunte  Mar 15, 2015 2:12:10pm
99 Kragar  Mar 15, 2015 2:13:04pm

Just got my daughter’s first science fair project started:

“What are the effects of different growing conditions on plant growth?”

We’ve got 3 groups set up, Indoor, Shade, and Full Sun, with 2 samples per group, one being watered daily, the other receiving minimal water.

We set up the samples in clear cups so she can take pictures of the seeds root development as they go.

100 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 2:13:57pm

re: #96 CuriousLurker

Didn’t inspire patriotic feelings and respect to the Church and the govt in Russians. Which is a mortal sin nowadays.

35% of the funding for Leviathan came from Russia’s Ministry of Culture.[19] However, Vladimir Medinsky, Minister of Culture, a conservative historian, acknowledged that the film showed talented moviemaking, but said he does not like it.[20] He sharply criticized its portrayal of ordinary Russians as swearing, vodka-swigging people, which he does not recognize from his experience as real Russians. He thought it as strange that there is not a single positive character in the movie and implied that the director was not fond of Russians but rather “fame, red carpets and statuettes”. Ministry of Culture has now proposed guidelines which would ban movies that defile the national culture.[20] In turn, when appearing on oppositional TV channel Dozhd, director Zvyagintsev was criticised by journalist Ksenia Sobchak for accepting government subsidies. Specifically, Sobchak asked whether government funding had had no influence on the content of the movie. In response, Zvyagintsev maintained that he had always felt completely independent from the Ministry in writing and shooting the movie. [21]

Vladimir Posner, a veteran Russian journalist said that the ruckus is because, “Anything seen as being critical of Russia in any way is automatically seen as either another Western attempt to denigrate Russia and the Orthodox Church or it as the work of some kind of fifth column of Russia-phobes who are paid by the West to do their anti-Russian work or are simply themselves profoundly anti-Russian.”[20]

Metropolitan Simon of Murmansk and Monchegorsk, the diocese where the movie was filmed, issued a statement calling it “honest”. He said that Leviathan raised important questions about the state of the country.[20]

101 #FergusonFireside  Mar 15, 2015 2:13:58pm

re: #97 #FergusonFireside

That is a great live video.

102 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 2:14:59pm

re: #95 Nyet

Looks like the fire is mostly out, but hard to say what remains and whether it’s salvageable.

Most old wooden buildings have been completely replaced member-by-member anyway. The restoration is a good sign—they’ve probably diagrammed every timber. It can be replaced—with enough will. And money.

103 b_sharp  Mar 15, 2015 2:16:09pm

With all the prominent people dying lately it must be a sign of the …uh, you know, what’s it called, the thing where all the god people get taken up to heaven before the second coming.

104 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 2:16:25pm

re: #102 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s a stone (or rather brick) building. There is some hope.

105 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 2:16:55pm

re: #103 b_sharp

With all the prominent people dying lately it must be a sign of the …uh, you know, what’s it called, the thing where all the god people get taken up to heaven before the second coming.

Rupture!

Oh, that sounds wrong. /

106 CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2015 2:18:14pm

re: #92 jaunte

Novodevichy Convent
en.wikipedia.org

Interesting. I find Russia fascinating because of all the different ethnicities and its sheer geographical enormity, not to mention the variation in climate, flora, and fauna. It’s not a place that I find I can easily ingest info about though… not only because it’s so culturally & politically different from anything I’m familiar with, but—again—because there;s just so much to try to take in. So I do it in little bits & pieces. It’s sort of an enigma to me.

107 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 2:18:33pm

re: #105 Nyet

Rupture!

Oh, that sounds wrong. /

A friend of mine used to pronounce “heinous” “hernious”. Yes, he knew it was wrong, he said he just liked it better.

108 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 2:20:36pm

re: #100 Nyet

Didn’t inspire patriotic feelings and respect to the Church and the govt in Russians. Which is a mortal sin nowadays.

Vladimir Posner, a veteran Russian journalist said that the ruckus is because, “Anything seen as being critical of Russia in any way is automatically seen as either another Western attempt to denigrate Russia and the Orthodox Church or it as the work of some kind of fifth column of Russia-phobes who are paid by the West to do their anti-Russian work or are simply themselves profoundly anti-Russian.”[20]

I remember Posner as a Soviet spokesman towards the end—I’m glad he found his feet in the new regime. He seemed like a reasonable fellow.

109 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2015 2:20:44pm

no ankles are safe. None!

110 CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2015 2:21:03pm

re: #100 Nyet

Didn’t inspire patriotic feelings and respect to the Church and the govt in Russians. Which is a mortal sin nowadays.

Ah, okay. Thanks. (I only read the short blurb over at IMDb.)

111 Lidane  Mar 15, 2015 2:23:18pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

112 Shiplord Kirel  Mar 15, 2015 2:23:34pm

The Blue Bell sabotage hypothesis is really picking up traction among the RWNJ.
Freepers have noted that Blue Bell appears on a list of 23 Consumer Brands Helping Bankroll Right-Wing Attack Ads, providing an obvious motive for the Kenyan usurper and his terror cells.

We therefore have a lethal conspiracy to destroy a patriotic Texas company, hatched in the White House, and carried out by Muslim Brotherhood operatives who sneaked in disguised as dirty, disease-ridden food service ill-eagles.
And these people have a fair chance of putting one of their figureheads in the White House in 2017.

113 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 2:25:23pm

re: #108 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I remember Posner as a Soviet spokesman towards the end—I’m glad he found his feet in the new regime. He seemed like a reasonable fellow.

Posner is an interesting fellow, he seriously revised his prior positions. He’s also an outspoken liberal (as well as a French and American citizen) and it’s only because of his great authority as a “TV patriarch” that he is allowed to have a program on the 1st channel of all places (it’s like if Bill Moyers had a popular show on Fox News). His position on Crimea has been weaselly though.

114 Targetpractice  Mar 15, 2015 2:26:25pm

re: #112 Shiplord Kirel

The Blue Bell sabotage hypothesis is really picking up traction among the RWNJ.
Freepers have noted that Blue Bell appears on a list of 23 Consumer Brands Helping Bankroll Right-Wing Attack Ads.

Let’s recap: We have a lethal conspiracy to destroy a patriotic Texas company, hatched in the White House, and carried out by Muslim Brotherhood operatives who sneaked in disguised as dirty, disease-ridden food service ill-eagles.
And these people have a fair chance of putting one of their figureheads in the White House in 2017.

Heh, how nice, I just grabbed some Blue Bell ice cream the other day. I think I shall have a bowl tonight and savor it all the more.

115 CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2015 2:26:54pm

re: #106 CuriousLurker

Interesting. I find Russia fascinating because of all the different ethnicities and its sheer geographical enormity, not to mention the variation in climate, flora, and fauna. It’s not a place that I find I can easily ingest info about though… not only because it’s so culturally & politically different from anything I’m familiar with, but—again—because there;s just so much to try to take in. So I do it in little bits & pieces. It’s sort of an enigma to me.

LOL, I just realized that I’m doing the whole Elephant in the Dark thing WRT Russia: feeling a leg, the tail, the trunk, etc. and trying to imagine what the whole thing is. That right there is where my imagination fails me.

116 blueraven  Mar 15, 2015 2:27:56pm

re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And Blue Bell ice cream? I’m pretty sure the last time I saw that, Eisenhower was president.

What!!? I have two containers in my freezer right now. It is the best!

117 jaunte  Mar 15, 2015 2:29:18pm

re: #112 Shiplord Kirel

I guess no one has figured out why the contamination conspiracy is so specific it only struck one packing line and two products:

“…none of the products removed from the market are sold in retail stores, but rather in hospitals and food service outlets such as restaurants. He said the creameries’ regular Moo Bars, half-gallons, quarts, pints, cups, three-gallon ice cream and take-home frozen snack novelties were not affected by the recall.
…….
The product contamination was first detected on Feb. 12 during routine sampling by the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control at a distribution center in that state. Health officials there found strains of listeria in single-serving Chocolate Chip Country Cookie Sandwich and the Great Divide Bar ice cream products.”chron.com

118 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 2:29:21pm

re: #115 CuriousLurker

LOL, I just realized that I’m doing the whole Elephant in the Dark thing WRT Russia: feeling a leg, the tail, the trunk, etc. and trying to imagine what the whole thing is. That right there is where my imagination fails me.

Could be there isn’t anything the whole thing is. Which is why it keeps trying to fly apart.

119 CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2015 2:30:41pm

re: #118 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Could be there isn’t anything the whole thing is. Which is why it keeps trying to fly apart.

Good point, heh.

120 Dr Lizardo  Mar 15, 2015 2:30:47pm

re: #116 blueraven

What!!? I have two containers ion my freezer right now. It is the best!

There can be only one.

Umpqua ice cream, FTW
121 Varek Raith  Mar 15, 2015 2:30:58pm

re: #103 b_sharp

With all the prominent people dying lately it must be a sign of the …uh, you know, what’s it called, the thing where all the god people get taken up to heaven before the second coming.

Free cars for us!

122 jaunte  Mar 15, 2015 2:31:11pm

Sorry, make that three products:

Following their findings, the Texas Department of State Health Services, collected product samples from the Blue Bell Creameries’ Brenham facility and detected listeria in a third single-serving ice cream product called “Scoops.”
……
Records for four of the patients show they all consumed milkshakes made with a single-serve Blue Bell ice cream product called “Scoops” about a month before becoming infected, according to the CDC.

123 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 2:31:27pm

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

There can be only one.

[Embedded content]

Umpqua FTW, indeed.

124 ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2015 2:31:44pm

You know, I don’t think I’ve seen as many crazy conspiracy theories as in the past fifteen or so years. It wasn’t this bad when there was a “red under every bed” back in the 50s-60s.

I’ve always feared the more ignorant the more willing to buy into totally wacko crap. I guess we are just more ignorant than ever as a country.

125 jaunte  Mar 15, 2015 2:33:25pm

re: #124 ObserverArt

Spreading wacko crap is now a more profitable business model.

126 Dr Lizardo  Mar 15, 2015 2:34:10pm

re: #121 Varek Raith

Free cars for us!

Yeah, but this is what you get…….

127 Lidane  Mar 15, 2015 2:34:14pm

Shorter GOP:

128 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 15, 2015 2:34:33pm

heh…CCJ haz a sad that a Putin quote about Sharia law and minorities and immigrants he retweeted is fake.

129 ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2015 2:34:38pm

re: #125 jaunte

Spreading wacko crap is now a more profitable business model.

Progress!

/

130 Kragar  Mar 15, 2015 2:34:53pm

re: #124 ObserverArt

You know, I don’t think I’ve seen as many crazy conspiracy theories as in the past fifteen or so years. It wasn’t this bad when there was a “red under every bed” back in the 50s-60s.

I’ve always feared the more ignorant the more willing to buy into totally wacko crap. I guess we are just more ignorant than ever as a country.

It used to be that conspiracy nuts were isolated and only communicated thru crappy newsletters and mailing lists.

Then the internet happened.

131 Shiplord Kirel  Mar 15, 2015 2:35:17pm

re: #117 jaunte

I guess no one has figured out why the contamination conspiracy is so specific it only struck one packing line and two products:

Just another example of Obama’s incompetence.

132 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 2:35:42pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…CCJ haz a sad that a Putin quote about SHaria law and minorities and immigrants he retweeted is fake.

He’s a sad mutant panda.

133 CuriousLurker  Mar 15, 2015 2:35:50pm

re: #124 ObserverArt

You know, I don’t think I’ve seen as many crazy conspiracy theories as in the past fifteen or so years. It wasn’t this bad when there was a “red under every bed” back in the 50s-60s.

I’ve always feared the more ignorant the more willing to buy into totally wacko crap. I guess we are just more ignorant than ever as a country.

I think there’s prolly always been plenty of bad crazy out there, we just weren’t aware of it until the internet became a public thing. That and it gets magnified when the crazies are able to reach out to each other via social media and quickly feed/exchange/combine conspiracy theories.

One of the downsides of technology.

134 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 2:35:53pm

re: #124 ObserverArt

You know, I don’t think I’ve seen as many crazy conspiracy theories as in the past fifteen or so years. It wasn’t this bad when there was a “red under every bed” back in the 50s-60s.

I’ve always feared the more ignorant the more willing to buy into totally wacko crap. I guess we are just more ignorant than ever as a country.

I’m shaking in my boots (OK, I don’t wear boots—happy?) that something like the KAL007 shootdown could happen in the present climate. That was with an Alzheimer-riddled lunatic in the White House, and a US congressman on board, but it would be much worse now.

135 Varek Raith  Mar 15, 2015 2:36:57pm

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, but this is what you get…….

[Embedded content]

I’ve seen worse.
Like a Bentley in camo.
:/

136 Dr Lizardo  Mar 15, 2015 2:37:24pm

re: #134 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m shaking in my boots (OK, I don’t wear boots—happy?) that something like the KAL007 shootdown could happen in the present climate. That was with an Alzheimer-riddled lunatic in the White House, and a US congressman on board, but it would be much worse now.

Three words for you:

President Ted Cruz.

And with that nightmarish thought, I bid you Lizards goodnight.

137 b_sharp  Mar 15, 2015 2:38:39pm

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, but this is what you get…….

Embedded Image

Just drive through the car wash.

138 CleverToad  Mar 15, 2015 2:43:31pm

re: #38 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My dad talked about being in Nagasaki three days after the bomb. Says he and the other medics scavenged a microscope that they used for a month before someone thought to test it. So hot they had to bury it.

139 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 2:45:12pm

I’m reading ex-Soviet Israelis from time to time, all across the spectrum, and sometimes funny things happen. One such Jewish Israeli was a self-defined left-wing liberal and all that entails (Israeli repressions against Palestinians, etc., etc.).
I don’t know what happened, but during the Russian anti-Ukrainian campaign he became strongly pro-Russia, pro-Donbass and pro-Putin.
Now he is agitating for Netanyahu because he thinks this way Israel will stay “friends” with Russia. Full circle of derp.

140 TedStriker  Mar 15, 2015 2:48:06pm

re: #138 CleverToad

My dad talked about being in Nagasaki three days after the bomb. Says he and the other medics scavenged a microscope that they used for a month before someone thought to test it. So hot they had to bury it.

E-gads…

141 Amory Blaine  Mar 15, 2015 2:48:42pm

Old buildings are usually overbuilt (factor of safety) with strong timbers. They can be burned up pretty good and still carry the load.

142 Nyet  Mar 15, 2015 2:49:18pm

re: #138 CleverToad

My dad talked about being in Nagasaki three days after the bomb. Says he and the other medics scavenged a microscope that they used for a month before someone thought to test it. So hot they had to bury it.

Now we know how the toad became so clever!
//sorry, somebody had to

143 KerFuFFler  Mar 15, 2015 2:49:29pm

re: #12 Belafon

I mostly agree, but going off a cliff is not the end of anything. “It’s not the fall that gets you, it’s the sudden stop at the bottom.” They are going off a cliff and are attempting to drag the rest of us with them….

Yeah, for a few seconds they’ll insist, “We’re flying!!!”

144 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 15, 2015 2:51:01pm

re: #143 KerFuFFler

Yeah, for a few seconds they’ll insist, “We’re flying!!!”

Hopefully that’s where they are now.

145 Teukka  Mar 15, 2015 2:51:24pm

re: #138 CleverToad

My dad talked about being in Nagasaki three days after the bomb. Says he and the other medics scavenged a microscope that they used for a month before someone thought to test it. So hot they had to bury it.

I remember seeing a video of one of the first responders to the SL-1 accident.
Taught me that one of the sounds you don’t want to hear is the needle on your radiation meter making a *clink* sounds as it hits the stop pin on the instrument.

146 ObserverArt  Mar 15, 2015 2:55:49pm

re: #133 CuriousLurker

I think there’s prolly always been plenty of bad crazy out there, we just weren’t aware of it until the internet became a public thing. That and it gets magnified when the crazies are able to reach out to each other via social media and quickly feed/exchange/combine conspiracy theories.

One of the downsides of technology.

I agree. If I remember, those that were that crazy back earlier were shot down fairly quickly by the big media since almost all America was listening.

Now, you get crackpots like Alex Jones and instead of getting put in place more and more people try to emulate him.

Even big media seems to buy it for some attention and then they soft peddle it off, but never really criticize it as ignorant claptrap. That is a big difference in my opinion and goes to what I was saying about people being more in the spirit (ignorance?) with buying in. The reasons do vary, but it is all still crazy.

147 CleverToad  Mar 15, 2015 3:02:35pm

re: #145 Teukka

No, that is not a happy sound!

148 Teukka  Mar 15, 2015 3:04:16pm

re: #147 CleverToad

No, that is not a happy sound!

Ayup. A classic Nope sound.

149 CleverToad  Mar 15, 2015 3:06:00pm

re: #142 Nyet

Dad tested in the 180+ IQ range in his 20’s — who knows, maybe you have something there… Common sense, maybe not so much.

(No, I didn’t get the soopergenius genes. Drat.)

150 Justanotherhuman  Mar 15, 2015 3:15:16pm

Sad that so-called “adults” can behave like middle schoolers because of their racism—using Obama’s “policies” as cover for it. Really, these are not mature people, although they want you to think they are.

This behavior makes me both extremely angry at them, and sad for this country, if that’s all the opposition party has to offer.

151 #FergusonFireside  Mar 15, 2015 3:22:46pm

re: #136 Dr Lizardo

Three words for you:

President Ted Cruz.

And with that nightmarish thought, I bid you Lizards goodnight.

153 Romantic Heretic  Mar 15, 2015 4:08:33pm

re: #121 Varek Raith

Free cars for us!

I’ll settle for a top of the line gaming computer.

154 BeenHereAwhile  Mar 15, 2015 4:30:45pm

re: #45 Belafon

It’s everywhere here in Texas.

Founded 1907 in Brenham, TX. Have a brother who lives outside Brenham.

It’s the ice cream I buy at Publix in Nashville.

155 BeenHereAwhile  Mar 15, 2015 4:51:55pm

re: #112 Shiplord Kirel

The Blue Bell sabotage hypothesis is really picking up traction among the RWNJ.
Freepers have noted that Blue Bell appears on a list of 23 Consumer Brands Helping Bankroll Right-Wing Attack Ads, providing an obvious motive for the Kenyan usurper and his terror cells.

We therefore have a lethal conspiracy to destroy a patriotic Texas company, hatched in the White House, and carried out by Muslim Brotherhood operatives who sneaked in disguised as dirty, disease-ridden food service ill-eagles.
And these people have a fair chance of putting one of their figureheads in the White House in 2017.

<Commercial Music>Blue Bell tastes just like , , , the good old days . . .</Commercial Music>

156 BeenHereAwhile  Mar 15, 2015 4:59:21pm

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, but this is what you get…….

Embedded Image

YABUT - that’s only in Florida.

157 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Mar 15, 2015 9:30:31pm

re: #99 Kragar

Just got my daughter’s first science fair project started:

“What are the effects of different growing conditions on plant growth?”

We’ve got 3 groups set up, Indoor, Shade, and Full Sun, with 2 samples per group, one being watered daily, the other receiving minimal water.

We set up the samples in clear cups so she can take pictures of the seeds root development as they go.

In case anybody’s still around:
I think a really neat science fair project would be to take one of those candles in a jar, light it and lay a soda can on its side on top of the jar. You could measure the time it takes for the explosion and with luck record the thing go off. Then you could repeat the process to compare the carbonation levels of regular and diet sodas, sort of like the do with Mentos.


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