Mickey Kaus Quits Daily Caller After Tucker Carlson Pulls Critical Fox News Column

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The fascinating thing about this report that Mickey Kaus has quit working for The Daily Caller is Tucker Carlson’s flat out admission that he has a policy of not criticizing Fox News — and will pull any column that does: Mickey Kaus Quits Daily Caller After Tucker Carlson Pulls Critical Fox News Column.

Kaus says when he told Carlson he needed to be able to write about Fox, Carlson told him it was a hard-and-fast rule, and non-negotiable.

“He said it was a rule, and he wouldn’t be able to change that rule. So I told him I quit,” Kaus explained. “I just don’t see how you can put out a publication with that kind of giant no-go area. It’s not like we’re owned by Joe’s Muffler Shop, so we just can’t write about Joe’s Muffler shop.”

Reached via email, Carlson told On Media: “Mickey is a great guy, and one of the few truly independent thinkers anywhere. I’m sorry to see him go.”

Does anyone still have any doubt that right wing “journalism” is thoroughly and utterly corrupt?

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229 comments
1 jaunte  Mar 17, 2015 3:16:12pm

“Mickey is a great guy, and one of the few truly independent thinkers anywhere. We can’t have that.”

2 HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2015 3:16:24pm

Thou shall not criticize Fox.

3 ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2015 3:17:11pm

Why, I am just shocked at this development. And all this time I thought Tucker and FOX were all on the up’n’up. /

4 Justanotherhuman  Mar 17, 2015 3:19:27pm

Maybe Kaus will contemplate exactly what RW politics is all about.

No?

5 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 17, 2015 3:19:59pm

Goat-fucker Mickey Kaus is “a great guy, and one of the few truly independent thinkers anywhere”? Great standards you’ve got there, Tucker!

6 darthstar  Mar 17, 2015 3:20:03pm

Mickey Kaus is still out blogging?

7 Joe Bacon  Mar 17, 2015 3:21:18pm

Ah, Mickey Kaus! Remember when he ran for US Senator in 2010 against Barbara Boxer, calling her too left wing. When the primary votes were counted, Mickey ran 3rd in a 2 way race…

California Democratic Senate primary, 2010
Candidate Votes Percentage
Barbara Boxer (incumbent) 1,957,920 81.0%
Brian Quintana 338,442 13.9%
Mickey Kaus 123,573 5.1%
Total votes 2,419,935 100%

8 Dr. Matt  Mar 17, 2015 3:21:33pm

re: #4 Justanotherhuman

Maybe Kaus will contemplate exactly what RW politics is all about.

No?

He clearly understands RW politics. He was upset that Fox was not being the opposition on immigration and amnesty….Fox….a so-called “news” network was not acting as political opposition according to Kaus. What a tool.

9 Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2015 3:21:49pm

The idea that Mickey Kaus is “independent” is ludicrous. The only reason he wanted to criticize Fox News is because they weren’t being right wing enough for him.

10 blueraven  Mar 17, 2015 3:23:06pm
“It’s pretty simple,” Kaus said in an interview, “I wrote a piece attacking Fox for not being the opposition on immigration and amnesty — for filling up the airwaves with reports on ISIS and terrorism, and not fulfilling their responsibility of being the opposition on amnesty and immigration…. I posted it at 6:30 in the morning. When I got up, Tucker had taken it down. He said, ‘We can’t trash Fox on the site. I work there.’”

Well then.

11 HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2015 3:24:37pm

re: #10 blueraven

Well then.

So he was upset because they weren’t right wing hacks enough on the issue. Pat-thetic.

12 blueraven  Mar 17, 2015 3:26:25pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

So he was upset because they weren’t right wing hacks enough on the issue. Pat-thetic.

Not only that, but he sees that as a Fox News obligation.

13 EPR-radar  Mar 17, 2015 3:28:28pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

So he was upset because they weren’t right wing hacks enough on the issue. Pat-thetic.

Perhaps this is a sign of upcoming intra-party fighting about immigration. The GOP Chamber of Commerce types and the GOP base voters really do have completely opposite positions on this issue.

14 HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2015 3:28:37pm

re: #12 blueraven

Not only that, but he sees that as a Fox News obligation.

Yeah he wants them to be even bigger assholes than they already are.

15 HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2015 3:29:15pm

re: #13 EPR-radar

Perhaps this is a sign of upcoming intra-party fighting about immigration. The GOP Chamber of Commerce types and the GOP base voters really do have do completely opposite positions on this issue.

It really is going to be interesting to see what happens with that. The Know-Nothings have the numbers but the CoC types have the money.

16 Kragar  Mar 17, 2015 3:30:34pm
17 EPR-radar  Mar 17, 2015 3:32:46pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

It really is going to be interesting to see what happens with that. The Know-Nothings have the numbers but the CoC types have the money.

I view the CoC as Dr. Frankenstein, and the GOP base voters (hopped up on all that red meat the CoC has been giving them for decades) as the monster.

Soon the monster will break free of all restraint.

18 Unabogie  Mar 17, 2015 3:34:43pm

re: #16 Kragar

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“Galt House”?

He really is a moronic Randroid, isn’t he? I can’t believe these people keep winning elections.

19 ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2015 3:35:48pm

The “we eat our own” process seems to have picked up a bit of speed lately on the RWNJ side of things. All this next year and a half could be a pretty dramatic for the Republican party.

Sure, they may be in power, but who is in power in the party? I get the feeling it is about to bust out and it won’t be pretty or good for them. A presidential election is going to really tear into their base.

20 HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2015 3:35:55pm

re: #17 EPR-radar

I view the CoC as Dr. Frankenstein, and the GOP base voters (hopped up on all that red meat the CoC has been giving them for decades) as the monster.

Soon the monster will break free of all restraint.

I think you’re right about that. We finally saw that when we saw the election of people like Ernst, Cotton, and others to the Senate.

21 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 17, 2015 3:37:15pm

Tucker Carlson isn’t quite Jonah Goldberg level douchebag, but that’s not saying much.

Also, reposting from downstairs:
Rep. Aaron Schock Is Resigning from Congress on March 31

22 HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2015 3:37:25pm

re: #19 ObserverArt

The “we eat our own” process seems to have picked up a bit of speed lately on the RWNJ side of things. All this next year and a half could be a pretty dramatic for the Republican party.

Sure, they may be in power, but who is in power in the party? I get the feeling it is about to bust out and it won’t be pretty or good for them. A presidential election is going to really tear into their base.

The primaries are going to be interesting to watch for sure.

23 ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2015 3:38:00pm

Going to have to warm up Photoshop for a Rand Paul bid at president. My first reaction: Aw hell no!

24 HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2015 3:38:25pm

re: #21 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Tucker Carlson isn’t quite Jonah Goldberg level douchebag, but that’s not saying much.

Also, reposting from downstairs:
Rep. Aaron Schock Is Resigning from Congress on March 31

It’s hard to get Jonah Goldberg level since that’s actually blaming liberalism for Nazism which Tucker who is an asshat for certain hasn’t crossed. As for Schock, good riddance to corrupt garbage.

25 Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2015 3:38:59pm
26 jaunte  Mar 17, 2015 3:39:46pm

re: #18 Unabogie

“Galt House”?.

“…During the Civil War, the Galt House was utilized for meetings of Union generals. In September 1862, it was the scene of an unusual murder, when General Jefferson C. Davis (not to be confused with Confederate President Jefferson Davis) shot Union General William “Bull” Nelson after a dispute.”
en.wikipedia.org

27 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 17, 2015 3:39:48pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson


Seems to be a multi-desk kind of day.
28 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 17, 2015 3:40:58pm

re: #18 Unabogie

“Galt House”?

He really is a moronic Randroid, isn’t he? I can’t believe these people keep winning elections.

The Galt House is a pretty nice hotel, IIRC. (been a while since I’ve been to Louisville)

29 Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2015 3:41:11pm
30 Justanotherhuman  Mar 17, 2015 3:41:21pm

I have no sympathy for tools like Kaus. He ran as a Democrat, but goes to work parroting Tool Carlson until he couldn’t take it any more because of one issue? This is supposed to be a principled decision, like when he sought and got the job?

So, it’s back to blogging for him.

“I’ve quit @DailyCaller. A new kausfiles.com will appear soon.”
kausfile.com

31 HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2015 3:41:42pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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Calling someone gay as an insult frankly has never been clever but it’s even more pathetic from someone who claims to be a genius award winning journalist.

32 ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2015 3:43:58pm

re: #21 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Tucker Carlson isn’t quite Jonah Goldberg level douchebag, but that’s not saying much.

Also, reposting from downstairs:
Rep. Aaron Schock Is Resigning from Congress on March 31

Saw that earlier. Some of us were talking about it in the Israeli Election Thread.

It all has happened rather fast for the ‘colorful’ one from Illinois. A truly meteoric display these last few months. Pffffft! All burned out…

33 EPR-radar  Mar 17, 2015 3:44:16pm

re: #27 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

CCJ isn’t worth that much energy.

He’s just a typical and completely replaceable RWNJ noise machine dung beetle.

Our host needs to keep the record clear because of the unfortunate coincidence of names, but even that should probably be approached more as an obligatory and tiresome chore than as anything of real significance.

34 Ace-o-aces  Mar 17, 2015 3:47:01pm

You might want to Google the 2009 Israeli election for reference.

35 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 17, 2015 3:47:05pm

re: #32 ObserverArt

Saw that earlier. Some of us were talking about it in the Israeli Election Thread.

It all has happened rather fast for the ‘colorful’ one from Illinois. A truly meteoric display these last few months. Pffffft! All burned out…

I was early to the Israeli election thread and then fell asleep. :) I figured the lizards had possibly seen it, but it’s local, so… glad to seem him go, either way :)

36 Unabogie  Mar 17, 2015 3:47:56pm

re: #26 jaunte

Sure, I realize that. But Rand sure picked this spot for a reason, don’t you think?

37 HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2015 3:48:25pm

re: #35 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I was early to the Israeli election thread and then fell asleep. :) I figured the lizards had possibly seen it, but it’s local, so… glad to seem him go, either way :)

Hopefully the Illinois Dems find a good candidate to run in the special election there. I don’t know much about that district but it would be nice to get something.

38 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 17, 2015 3:50:11pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I ran into a particularly loathesome individual named Cathy Brennan on twitter who is a trans exclusionary radical feminist. She like to dox and out stealth trans women (trans women who erased their past, had extensive cosmetic surgery etc ), and harrass their employers and care givers. Her main accomplishment in this regard is coauthoring a letter to the United Nations, insisting that trans people’s gender identity should not be legally recognized and protected.[4]

She had also been a frequent columnist for Baltimore OUTloud’s LGBTQ blog section, which she used to warn of the coming “lesbian annihilation” at the hands of “the queers” and trans people[5] and stridently argue against legislation protecting gender identity.

She justifies some of her actions, such as the outing of queer youth to their schools,[6] by pointing to the things some people have said in response to her attacks (trivialization of violence against women, e.g). However, she seems completely apathetic about similar behavior among her “intellectual” kin.[7]

To their credit, even the rest of the anti-trans feminist crowd are beginning to wise up to what an awful person she is.

Anyways, she attacked me on twitter yesterday and tried to spread an old picture of me in my Rev War gear. I think she and ginger Chucky would make a lovely pair…

39 wrenchwench  Mar 17, 2015 3:50:34pm
40 Justanotherhuman  Mar 17, 2015 3:51:22pm

The future king and his consort, unless Mom outlives him.

(Woops, embedded wrong place) Sorry for that crappy comment.

41 HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2015 3:52:43pm

re: #38 Aunty Entity Dragon

I ran into a particularly loathesome individual named Cathy Brennan on twitter who is a trans exclusionary radical feminist. She like to dox and out stealth trans women (trans women who erased their past, had extensive cosmetic surgery etc ), harrass their employers. Her main accomplishment in this regard is coauthoring a letter to the United Nations, insisting that trans people’s gender identity should not be legally recognized and protected.[4]

Anyways, she attacked me on twitter yesterday and tried to spread an old picture of me in my Rev War gear. I think she and ginger Chucky would make a lovely pair…

That’s really fucked up. Agh why do some people seem to get their jollies ruining the lives of others? Are their own lives that miserable?

42 Drive By Commenter  Mar 17, 2015 3:53:04pm

Tucker Carlson. Isn’t that what you call that larger piece of barf when you honk chunks?

43 wrenchwench  Mar 17, 2015 3:53:26pm

re: #38 Aunty Entity Dragon

I ran into a particularly loathesome individual named Cathy Brennan on twitter who is a trans exclusionary radical feminist. She like to dox and out stealth trans women (trans women who erased their past, had extensive cosmetic surgery etc ), harrass their employers. Her main accomplishment in this regard is coauthoring a letter to the United Nations, insisting that trans people’s gender identity should not be legally recognized and protected.[4]

Anyways, she attacked me on twitter yesterday and tried to spread an old picture of me in my Rev War gear. I think she and ginger Chucky would make a lovely pair…

May Cathy Brennan turn into a salmon…

44 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 17, 2015 3:53:27pm

re: #38 Aunty Entity Dragon

I ran into a particularly loathesome individual named Cathy Brennan on twitter who is a trans exclusionary radical feminist. She like to dox and out stealth trans women (trans women who erased their past, had extensive cosmetic surgery etc ), harrass their employers. Her main accomplishment in this regard is coauthoring a letter to the United Nations, insisting that trans people’s gender identity should not be legally recognized and protected.[4]

Anyways, she attacked me on twitter yesterday and tried to spread an old picture of me in my Rev War gear. I think she and ginger Chucky would make a lovely pair…

The fuck? I really don’t get that level of … I don’t know what to call that.

45 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 17, 2015 3:53:30pm

re: #18 Unabogie

“Galt House”?

He really is a moronic Randroid, isn’t he? I can’t believe these people keep winning elections.

I think there is an actual hotel in Louisville called “Galt House” that predates Ayn Rand by several decades.

46 Kragar  Mar 17, 2015 3:53:46pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

Calling someone gay as an insult frankly has never been clever but it’s even more pathetic from someone who claims to be a genius award winning journalist.

I always know what kind of person I’m dealing with when they consider calling someone gay or a woman an insult.

47 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 17, 2015 3:55:41pm

re: #43 wrenchwench

May Cathy Brennan turn into a salmon…

Chomp.

48 wrenchwench  Mar 17, 2015 3:55:51pm

re: #44 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

The fuck? I really don’t get that level of … I don’t know what to call that.

You can call it hate. That’s what hate acts like.

49 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 17, 2015 3:57:49pm

re: #48 wrenchwench

You can call it hate. That’s what hate acts like.

I wish there were a word worse than that for such ppl. Hate seems too polite.

50 HappyWarrior  Mar 17, 2015 3:58:16pm

re: #46 Kragar

I always know what kind of person I’m dealing with when they consider calling someone gay or a woman an insult.

It’s a good rule of thumb,

51 Kragar  Mar 17, 2015 4:00:11pm
52 nearly-headless smith25  Mar 17, 2015 4:00:16pm

re: #45 The Mother Of All Pies

I think there is an actual hotel in Louisville called “Galt House” that predates Ayn Rand by several decades.

It is true. Louisville has a number of older hotels that are timeless wonders. I’d prefer the Brown hotel myself, but the Galt House is nice as well.

53 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 17, 2015 4:00:42pm

Cathy’s blog is here

Her obsession with trans women is…well, maybe another lizard here can help me out with this, because I have no idea what the hell her malfunction is.

The only other person I have see with this kind of single minded, creepy stalkerish Ah hate teh trannies vibe is Rod Dreher…who is about as far away from radical feminism as you can get.

The extremes of either side end up looking just like each other.

54 wrenchwench  Mar 17, 2015 4:01:35pm

re: #49 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I wish there were a word worse than that for such ppl. Hate seems too polite.

Try Inhuman Fucking Hater Assholes.

55 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 17, 2015 4:02:34pm

re: #53 Aunty Entity Dragon

Cathy’s blog is here

Her obsession with trans women is…well, maybe another lizard here can help me out with this, because I have no idea what the hell her malfunction is.

The only other person I have see with this kind of single minded, creepy stalkerish Ah hate teh trannies vibe is Rod Dreher…who is about as far away from radical feminism as you can get.

The extremes of either side end up looking just like each other.

I really don’t get this either. I mean, you’re not like me. OK. Fine. I’ll go about my life.

But to actively seek out info on someone you don’t even know just because they’re not like you. It’s CCJ-level shit. grrrrrr.

56 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 17, 2015 4:02:48pm

re: #54 wrenchwench

Try Inhuman Fucking Hater Assholes.

Honestly, I think she is actually mentally ill. I saw her blog, and something is really wrong with her.

57 wrenchwench  Mar 17, 2015 4:04:42pm

re: #56 Aunty Entity Dragon

Honestly, I think she is actually mentally ill. I saw her blog, and something is really wrong with her.

I tend to think there’s something wrong with anyone so full of hate. Even (or especially) when they are related to me.

58 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 17, 2015 4:05:01pm

re: #55 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I really don’t get this either. I mean, you’re not like me. OK. Fine. I’ll go about my life.

But to actively seek out info on someone you don’t even know just because they’re not like you. It’s CCJ-level shit. grrrrrr.

That’s why I said the she would make a great pair with CCJ. They are mirror images of each other.

Intolerance, anger, hate and a humorless certainty that they they are right and the rest of us are wrong.

59 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 17, 2015 4:05:30pm

re: #56 Aunty Entity Dragon

Honestly, I think she is actually mentally ill. I saw her blog, and something is really wrong with her.

I don’t hang out at Pharyngula much any more, but PZ’s been on her case for yonks. She’s a piece of work, all right.

60 ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2015 4:06:15pm

re: #35 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I was early to the Israeli election thread and then fell asleep. :) I figured the lizards had possibly seen it, but it’s local, so… glad to seem him go, either way :)

He reps the western mid-state area, correct? What do the people of his district think of all of the news that he generates good and bad?

61 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2015 4:06:58pm

The original Galt House in Louisville was the residence of Dr. W.C. Galt. It was established as a hotel in 1834. It was eventually demolished in 1921.
The current Galt House hotel was established in 1972.

62 wrenchwench  Mar 17, 2015 4:07:59pm

This I wouldn’t (or don’t) mind being related to:

63 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 17, 2015 4:08:00pm

re: #32 ObserverArt

Saw that earlier. Some of us were talking about it in the Israeli Election Thread.

It all has happened rather fast for the ‘colorful’ one from Illinois. A truly meteoric display these last few months. Pffffft! All burned out…

Being a Republican, IMO he could pretty much skate on anything that’s come out so far. He must be hoping to avoid closer scrutiny of something much worse.

64 Nyet  Mar 17, 2015 4:09:04pm

theterfs.com

65 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 17, 2015 4:09:27pm

re: #60 ObserverArt

He reps the western mid-state area, correct? What do the people of his district think of all of the news that he generates good and bad?

Thankfully not my district (which isn’t saying much outside of the Chicago area re: GOP representation).

OTOH, I’m sure he will make out fine, because that’s what happens.

66 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2015 4:12:01pm

re: #60 ObserverArt

He reps the western mid-state area, correct? What do the people of his district think of all of the news that he generates good and bad?

Peoria area. Very solidly Republican.

67 wrenchwench  Mar 17, 2015 4:12:17pm

re: #64 Nyet

theterfs.com

Anti-TERFs:

68 Patricia Kayden  Mar 17, 2015 4:15:48pm

re: #21 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Yes Tucker is — he’s nasty and racist to boot. He has been very clear in his anti-Black hostility.

69 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 17, 2015 4:17:05pm

re: #52 nearly-headless smith25

It is true. Louisville has a number of older hotels that are timeless wonders. I’d prefer the Brown hotel myself, but the Galt House is nice as well.

I stayed at the Brown Hotel 2 years ago when I drove to Alabama for Thanksgiving. It’s a really nice place, real old style.

70 Mattand  Mar 17, 2015 4:18:14pm

So my initial reaction is that even though I’ve never heard of Mickey Kaus, good for him for standing up for his journalistic integrity.

Then I read what his article was about: Fox wasn’t doing enough to be the opposition of amnesty. Or as rational people would say, he was bent out of shape that Fox wasn’t doing enough fear mongering about immigration.

Then, genius that I am, it slowly dawned on me that this Mickey Kaus character was working for fucking Tucker Carlson.

I’ll just have to settle for the warm, nourishing glow of a conservative media circular firing squad.

71 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 17, 2015 4:20:12pm

Google: Here’s what we did wrong with Google Glass

…One thing Teller doesn’t regret in the slightest is the public nature of the Google Glass Explorers program. His keynote at SXSW was all about the value of failure — especially public failure — as it gives data and answers to key questions that you simply can’t get in any other way.

since when has google ever had any experience selling technology?

it’s always made its money through advertizing

72 Justanotherhuman  Mar 17, 2015 4:21:25pm

Cut it out, Bibi.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he’s spoke with right-wing Israeli party leaders on forming government without delay; opposition leader to concede defeat - @Reuters
end of alert

73 Mattand  Mar 17, 2015 4:21:33pm

re: #44 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

The fuck? I really don’t get that level of … I don’t know what to call that.

“Evil” works.

74 Targetpractice  Mar 17, 2015 4:23:34pm

re: #72 Justanotherhuman

Cut it out, Bibi.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he’s spoke with right-wing Israeli party leaders on forming government without delay; opposition leader to concede defeat - @Reuters
end of alert

He doesn’t waste time with the bullshit, does he?

75 wrenchwench  Mar 17, 2015 4:23:49pm

re: #72 Justanotherhuman

Cut it out, Bibi.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he’s spoke with right-wing Israeli party leaders on forming government without delay; opposition leader to concede defeat - @Reuters
end of alert

76 Timothy Watson  Mar 17, 2015 4:25:02pm

re: #38 Aunty Entity Dragon

I ran into a particularly loathesome individual named Cathy Brennan on twitter who is a trans exclusionary radical feminist. She like to dox and out stealth trans women (trans women who erased their past, had extensive cosmetic surgery etc ), and harrass their employers and care givers. Her main accomplishment in this regard is coauthoring a letter to the United Nations, insisting that trans people’s gender identity should not be legally recognized and protected.[4]

Anyways, she attacked me on twitter yesterday and tried to spread an old picture of me in my Rev War gear. I think she and ginger Chucky would make a lovely pair…

RationalWiki has an article on her:
rationalwiki.org

She’s definitely one of the special people.

77 ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2015 4:25:25pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

Peoria area. Very solidly Republican.

So, does a guy like Schock play well in Peoria?

As discussed, he is colorful and well…pretty much ol’ middle America thinking.

78 Justanotherhuman  Mar 17, 2015 4:26:05pm

Israeli opposition leader Isaac Herzog refuses to concede defeat, vows to make ‘every effort’ to create coalition government - @AP
bigstory.ap.org

79 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 17, 2015 4:27:49pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

That worked out so well for us in 2000. ////

80 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2015 4:28:07pm

They can start with Sheldon Adelson and Bill Kristol.

81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 17, 2015 4:28:56pm

re: #52 nearly-headless smith25

It is true. Louisville has a number of older hotels that are timeless wonders. I’d prefer the Brown hotel myself, but the Galt House is nice as well.

If you don’t mind its somewhat garish décor in the public areas — like bright red carpeting and faux gold fixtures, the Galt is a comfy hotel, right on the river.

The jumbo fireworks show, Thunder over Louisville, is coming up. You can rent a room overlooking the river for $804 that night. I’m not sure if it’s at the Galt. If not, I’m sure the Galt House would have comparable prices. Some of my friends in Louisville are considering pitching in for a room. Otherwise, if you want to see the fireworks live, you get to spend hours in traffic with a few million other visitors and residents coming and going.

An air show usually precedes the fireworks. Not sure about this year.

82 wrenchwench  Mar 17, 2015 4:30:09pm

BBL.

83 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2015 4:31:18pm

re: #77 ObserverArt

So, does a guy like Schock play well in Peoria?

As discussed, he is colorful and well…pretty much ol’ middle America thinking.

Apparently.
All he needed was the big R after his name.

84 Timothy Watson  Mar 17, 2015 4:31:46pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

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BBL.

…is that a cat or a dog?

85 Targetpractice  Mar 17, 2015 4:32:25pm

re: #84 Timothy Watson

…is that a cat or a dog?

Whatever it is, it looks pissed.

86 Targetpractice  Mar 17, 2015 4:44:56pm

*Gives thread CPR*

87 Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2015 4:45:33pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They can start with Sheldon Adelson and Bill Kristol.

Not a chance in hell of that happening.

88 Nyet  Mar 17, 2015 4:49:09pm

re: #86 Targetpractice

*Gives thread CPR*

*thread wakes up, vomits*

89 Timothy Watson  Mar 17, 2015 4:49:22pm
90 makeitstop  Mar 17, 2015 4:50:22pm

re: #23 ObserverArt

Going to have to warm up Photoshop for a Rand Paul bid at president. My first reaction: Aw hell no!

Driftglass has done a series of ‘Rand Paul running away.’

91 Timothy Watson  Mar 17, 2015 4:51:14pm

Charles, can you adjust the Twitter parser thing so tweet URLs from the mobile.twitter.com subdomain work and the subdomain doesn’t have to be removed?

92 Targetpractice  Mar 17, 2015 4:51:27pm

re: #89 Timothy Watson

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XCOM, a game that dares to ask the question “Just how far can you be pushed before you’ll throw your computer out the window?”

93 Kid A  Mar 17, 2015 4:51:48pm
94 Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2015 4:53:15pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

We have our new SUSPENDED kitteh.

95 Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2015 4:56:25pm

re: #91 Timothy Watson

Done.

96 Justanotherhuman  Mar 17, 2015 4:58:48pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm, and remember his old Irish saying: It’s easy to halve the potato where there’s love.

97 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 17, 2015 4:59:04pm

re: #92 Targetpractice

XCOM, a game that dares to ask the question “Just how far can you be pushed before you’ll throw your computer out the window?”

Oh hell yes. I still play the original using DOSBox. If you can get past the first few missions without throwing something you can get through the game.

98 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 17, 2015 5:01:59pm

Nuts. My flash drive is telling me I need to format it when I plug it into my laptop. Downloaded all my recent vacation pictures onto it yesterday from another laptop.

:(

99 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2015 5:02:03pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

We have our new SUSPENDED kitteh.

oooh…can’t wait for the next bad hatchling…

100 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 17, 2015 5:04:45pm
101 makeitstop  Mar 17, 2015 5:06:09pm

OT: This is great. Noel Gallagher is a loudmouth.

Looking Back in Anger: 101 Things Noel Gallagher Has Been Mad At

Some of those quotes are hilarious.

102 The War TARDIS  Mar 17, 2015 5:08:51pm

re: #101 makeitstop

He doesn’t seem to be a nice person.

103 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 5:15:20pm

Hey ya’ll. Does anyone have the video of Deray and Roorda on CNN handy?

I thought it was last night??

104 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 17, 2015 5:16:36pm

re: #98 Feline Fearless Leader

Nuts. My flash drive is telling me I need to format it when I plug it into my laptop. Downloaded all my recent vacation pictures onto it yesterday from another laptop.

:(

If all else fails you can try Wise Data Recovery. It’s freeware. I use GetDataBack and it works really well, but it costs $79.

105 Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2015 5:17:38pm
106 Drive By Commenter  Mar 17, 2015 5:19:40pm

OT?

No caption needed

I think Tom is a toadstool who has no skin in the game and is just a front for those GOP maggots who have more to lose. You can sign something reprehensible and save face, he wrote that steaming pile of dung. You can bet the farm, that when Mr. Fucking Cotton walks away from his office he will be wealthy. Perfect example of either a dupe or sellout.

107 darthstar  Mar 17, 2015 5:21:23pm
108 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 17, 2015 5:22:00pm
109 ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2015 5:22:35pm

It has taken me a few minutes to recover, but I made the mistake to watch Steve Kornacki take over for Chris Hardball tonight.

I was hoping to catch up some on the Israel elections. Kornacki was all breathless about Hillary and the emails. And he was almost frantic about it all, and one of his guests (not real sure who the guy was…) was being all downbeat about it, and I thought Kornacki was going to throw him off the show for getting the host all worked up.

I guess everyone really needs to worry about Hillary though. She dropped 6 favorable points and is now at 44% unfavorable from 38%. Of course, this is three weeks into the email crap and only a year and a half away from elections.

She’ll probably go lower. And she’ll probably go higher.

110 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 17, 2015 5:32:38pm

re: #104 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If all else fails you can try Wise Data Recovery. It’s freeware. I use GetDataBack and it works really well, but it costs $79.

Going to try it in another computer tomorrow before starting data recovery efforts. I’ve seen flashdrives act wonky before and then straighten out.

Also will check whether I still have the photos on the other computer as well. Would suck to lose over a Gig of photos.

111 makeitstop  Mar 17, 2015 5:33:05pm

re: #102 The War TARDIS

He doesn’t seem to be a nice person.

The human equivalent of that cat pic that’s currently up.

112 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 17, 2015 5:33:57pm

re: #109 ObserverArt

It has taken me a few minutes to recover, but I made the mistake to watch Steve Kornacki take over for Chris Hardball tonight.

I was hoping to catch up some on the Israel elections. Kornacki was all breathless about Hillary and the emails. And he was almost frantic about it all, and one of his guests (not real sure who the guy was…) was being all downbeat about it, and I thought Kornacki was going to throw him off the show for getting the host all worked up.

I guess everyone really needs to worry about Hillary though. She dropped 6 favorable points and is now at 44% unfavorable from 38%. Of course, this is three weeks into the email crap and only a year and a half away from elections.

She’ll probably go lower. And she’ll probably go higher.

in the two or three weeks following the republican convention in 2016, hillary will be behind in the polls due to the heartrending speech by the victim in the rape case she handled

113 ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2015 5:33:59pm

re: #109 ObserverArt

It has taken me a few minutes to recover, but I made the mistake to watch Steve Kornacki take over for Chris Hardball tonight.

I was hoping to catch up some on the Israel elections. Kornacki was all breathless about Hillary and the emails. And he was almost frantic about it all, and one of his guests (not real sure who the guy was…) was being all downbeat about it, and I thought Kornacki was going to throw him off the show for getting the host all worked up.

I guess everyone really needs to worry about Hillary though. She dropped 6 favorable points and is now at 44% unfavorable from 38%. Of course, this is three weeks into the email crap and only a year and a half away from elections.

She’ll probably go lower. And she’ll probably go higher.

EDIT: Checked MSNBC site and the guy that was pissing off Kornacki is named Joe Conason.

Here is a link to the site with the video up. I didn’t know of a way to embed it here. It’s not that great…just over the top and an example of modern tv jounalism.

Boehner to Clinton: Hand over private email server

114 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 5:34:13pm

re: #103 #FergusonFireside

Hey ya’ll. Does anyone have the video of Deray and Roorda on CNN handy?

I thought it was last night??

m.facebook.com

Roorda is quite the evil troll.

115 The War TARDIS  Mar 17, 2015 5:36:01pm

State of the Ottoman playthrough. I have now gotten to the year 1552. The Mamluks are gone, as are the Qara Qoylunu. Serbia has been absorbed, along with Shirvan. I gained most of Tunis, and took Iraq from the Timurids.

The next step is Spain. Well, the parts in Africa. And the parts in Italy if they feel like being annoying,

116 Skip Intro  Mar 17, 2015 5:39:40pm

Just another day in insane America.

White House is mailed package with cyanide

cnn.com

117 jaunte  Mar 17, 2015 5:44:28pm

re: #116 Skip Intro

According to the Intercept, the alert identified the man listed as the return address on the envelope as having a long history with the Secret Service, dating back to 1995. That history includes an incident in which the man sent a package covered in urine and feces.

Chuck C.?

118 Belafon  Mar 17, 2015 5:45:30pm

re: #100 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We are on stage 3 water restrictions here in the Dallas area. During last summer, this meant watering once every two weeks (you could water your foundation more often). They have let us water once a week because the water pumps weren’t being run as much.

We’ve made up about 4 of the 10 feet we were down at the beginning of the year due to rain, but we’re going to need more or they will keep us on stage 3 for this summer.

119 A Cranky One  Mar 17, 2015 5:45:38pm

Charles vs Chuckles mention on Wonkette (and a good chuckle):

Wonkette

120 Dark_Falcon  Mar 17, 2015 5:47:22pm

re: #21 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Tucker Carlson isn’t quite Jonah Goldberg level douchebag, but that’s not saying much.

Also, reposting from downstairs:
Rep. Aaron Schock Is Resigning from Congress on March 31

Another corrupt Illinois politician bites the dust. Here, its not just Republicans or Democrats, its both parties. It drives me up the wall in frustration.

121 Dark_Falcon  Mar 17, 2015 5:49:03pm

re: #115 The War TARDIS

State of the Ottoman playthrough. I have now gotten to the year 1552. The Mamluks are gone, as are the Qara Qoylunu. Serbia has been absorbed, along with Shirvan. I gained most of Tunis, and took Iraq from the Timurids.

The next step is Spain. Well, the parts in Africa. And the parts in Italy if they feel like being annoying,

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Has Columbus made his voyage in this scenario?

122 LastYearsMan  Mar 17, 2015 5:49:03pm

re: #107 darthstar

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Donald Duck feels their pain.

123 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 5:53:22pm

LOL just saw the Ron Reagan Freedom from Religion Foundation ad on CNN.

Not afraid of burning in hell.

…

124 palomino  Mar 17, 2015 5:53:42pm

A long time ago Kaus was sort of pragmatic and moderate. When did he lose his mind and become so anti-immigrant? Maybe right after 9/11 like so many others?

Maybe he can move to another RW website not operated by a Fox employee. Scary thing is that there are a number of prominent RW sites (redstate, for example) where Fox is routinely trashed for being insufficiently reactionary.

125 b.d.  Mar 17, 2015 5:54:28pm

Seeing how Tucker has already been fired by both of the other cable news networks I can see why he would be a little wary.

I might just have to tune in if Tucker made the rounds to RT though.

126 The War TARDIS  Mar 17, 2015 5:56:53pm

re: #121 Dark_Falcon

Yep.

But, My army out numbers their armies, the Spanish,Portuguese,Venetian, and Colonial armies 166k to 98k. And Spain is having two internal Civil Wars.

My navies aren’t as strong, but I am fixing that.

127 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 5:58:16pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

Another corrupt Illinois politician bites the dust. Here, its not just Republicans or Democrats, its both parties. It drives me up the wall in frustration.

Ya’ll pay for it somehow. Look inward!

128 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 6:01:10pm

On a ‘nother subject. Talked to my Mom. We are not Irish in any way, but her corned beef and cabbage was a staple from when I was a wee lass. She made it & I’m not there. :(

129 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 17, 2015 6:01:24pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

Another corrupt Illinois politician bites the dust. Here, its not just Republicans or Democrats, its both parties. It drives me up the wall in frustration.

And your guy just got elected governor. Countdown until indictment?

130 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 17, 2015 6:03:47pm

re: #110 Feline Fearless Leader

Going to try it in another computer tomorrow before starting data recovery efforts. I’ve seen flashdrives act wonky before and then straighten out.

Also will check whether I still have the photos on the other computer as well. Would suck to lose over a Gig of photos.

Good ideas! Though I’ve never had a flash drive fail on me I still don’t trust the things enough to use them for anything more than transferring stuff, never for archiving.

131 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 6:03:55pm
132 Maddies Mom  Mar 17, 2015 6:05:27pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Hopefully the Illinois Dems find a good candidate to run in the special election there. I don’t know much about that district but it would be nice to get something.

VERY republican, one expressing interest is Darrin LaHood, son of former trans secy.

133 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 17, 2015 6:05:46pm

House Republicans offer budget that will be difficult for them to pass

government as reactionary political theater

134 The War TARDIS  Mar 17, 2015 6:06:35pm

re: #126 The War TARDIS

There is a war with a pretender in mainland Spain.

There is also an independence war in Spanish-Africa. And I am attacking all 18k Venetians with 34k of my own soldiers.

135 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 17, 2015 6:06:48pm

Stay classy you fucking tool

136 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 6:07:19pm

re: #133 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

House Republicans offer budget that will be difficult for them to pass

government as reactionary political theater

Their hate, on paper. Privatize SS, cut all social programs, increase defense.

137 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 17, 2015 6:08:06pm

re: #136 #FergusonFireside

Their hate, on paper. Privatize SS, cut all social programs, increase defense.

Looks about right.

138 Dark_Falcon  Mar 17, 2015 6:08:32pm

re: #129 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

And your guy just got elected governor. Countdown until indictment?

Hopefully never. I’m hoping that after two governors, one of each party, going to prison in a row, we’re now going to have two non-criminal governors, on of each party, in a row.

139 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 17, 2015 6:09:07pm

Totally off topic, but I have got to stop watching Frontline. My rage-o-meter can’t take it.

140 palomino  Mar 17, 2015 6:10:15pm

re: #135 The Mother Of All Pies

Stay classy you fucking tool

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Why should Obama invite Bibi back to the WH? Obama’s got less than two years in office, and clearly making Bibi happy has never been one of his priorities, nor should it be.

141 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 17, 2015 6:11:07pm

All the wingnuts who scream OBAMA IS MAKING HIMSELF TEH KING!!!!1!!!! can’t wait to crown Bibi King of Israel.

142 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 17, 2015 6:11:17pm

re: #140 palomino

Why should Obama invite Bibi back to the WH? Obama’s got less than two years in office, and clearly making Bibi happy has never been one of his priorities, nor should it be.

I’d actually like to see him invite Bibi back just to troll his ass. Like you said, he’s on a short timeline.

143 Dark_Falcon  Mar 17, 2015 6:12:23pm

re: #126 The War TARDIS

Yep.

But, My army out numbers their armies, the Spanish,Portuguese,Venetian, and Colonial armies 166k to 98k. And Spain is having two internal Civil Wars.

My navies aren’t as strong, but I am fixing that.

Just remember: Bigger cannons for your galleys and cut the rams off your bows if needed to mount said cannon.

Not kidding, BTW: Replying on cannon instead of ramming let Spanish, Genoese, and Venetian galleys devastate their ottoman counterparts at Lepanto.

144 Timothy Watson  Mar 17, 2015 6:13:46pm
145 Kragar  Mar 17, 2015 6:14:55pm

GW’s latest press release about their upcoming big news:

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146 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 17, 2015 6:15:59pm

re: #136 #FergusonFireside

Their hate, on paper. Privatize SS, cut all social programs, increase defense.

why gum up the american government when these fantasies properly belong in privately printed political fiction novels a la atlas shrugged?

147 The War TARDIS  Mar 17, 2015 6:16:03pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

Unfortunately, the Venitians have 65+ vessals guarding Venice’s ports. Now way in hell that will end well.

I am just going to take everything else, then allow them peace in exchange for Istria.

148 Dark_Falcon  Mar 17, 2015 6:16:16pm

re: #141 The Mother Of All Pies

All the wingnuts who scream OBAMA IS MAKING HIMSELF TEH KING!!!!1!!!! can’t wait to crown Bibi King of Israel.

Well, that’s different. Netanyahu is white and he’s a conservative. Making him king over some white but mostly brown people just makes sense. By contrast, Obama is a [the n-word]. Letting him become king over anyone but other [the n-word, plural] would be The Worst Thing Ever!

149 The War TARDIS  Mar 17, 2015 6:17:27pm

Of course, the Spanish were brilliant enough to maneuver 3 thousand mean into an area I had had started invading. They are now surrounded.

150 Dark_Falcon  Mar 17, 2015 6:18:02pm

re: #147 The War TARDIS

Unfortunately, the Venitians have 65+ vessals guarding Venice’s ports. Now way in hell that will end well.

I am just going to take everything else, then allow them peace in exchange for Istria.

Just remember: That didn’t so well for Selim II. Though you’ve got the edge over him, not being a drunk and all.

151 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 17, 2015 6:18:54pm

re: #149 The War TARDIS

Of course, the Spanish were brilliant enough to maneuver 3 thousand mean into an area I had had started invading. They are now surrounded.

All due respect, but could you please make a separate page for your gaming?

152 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 17, 2015 6:25:05pm

re: #149 The War TARDIS

3 thousand mean

the price of a meal in the new teabag currency

153 Timothy Watson  Mar 17, 2015 6:26:11pm

re: #149 The War TARDIS

Of course, the Spanish were brilliant enough to maneuver 3 thousand mean into an area I had had started invading. They are now surrounded.

I really hate playing whack-a-mole against the AI.

Of course, I also really hate 80,000 men doomstacks. :)

154 Belafon  Mar 17, 2015 6:29:38pm

re: #141 The Mother Of All Pies

All the wingnuts who scream OBAMA IS MAKING HIMSELF TEH KING!!!!1!!!! can’t wait to crown Bibi King of Israel.

But Bibi was selected by God Yahweh.
//

155 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2015 6:29:47pm
156 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 17, 2015 6:31:40pm

re: #154 Belafon

But Bibi was selected by God Yahweh 24% of the voters.
//

That’s about the same as the 2013 elections.

157 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 17, 2015 6:33:05pm

re: #130 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Good ideas! Though I’ve never had a flash drive fail on me I still don’t trust the things enough to use them for anything more than transferring stuff, never for archiving.

I was trying to transfer. Just need to also check I still have them on the other computer as well. Annoying that I used the same drive to transfer some files a week ago with no issues whatsoever.

158 The War TARDIS  Mar 17, 2015 6:33:12pm

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

I won and forced Venice out of the war. Amazing what a major blockade, then occupying 3/4ths of their land will do. I even got one of their provinces.

Spain is now facing 3 civil wars. Neapolitans are revolting in Italy.

I think I will win that war. Next, I should crackdown on Portugal.

159 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 17, 2015 6:34:35pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

Barracks O’Bama

or, as it’s pronounced in britain, “barricoe bomber”

160 Dark_Falcon  Mar 17, 2015 6:36:00pm

re: #159 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

or, as it’s pronounced in britain, “barricoe bomber”

Or here, its BBL.

161 The War TARDIS  Mar 17, 2015 6:36:15pm

Spanish Navy of 54 Vessals is now attacking the Ottoman Navy of 70.

162 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 17, 2015 6:37:47pm

re: #159 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

or, as it’s pronounced in britain, “barricoe bomber”

“It’s based on a novel by a man named Lear,

And I need a job ‘cause I want to be a

Paperback writer….”

163 The War TARDIS  Mar 17, 2015 6:38:59pm

re: #161 The War TARDIS

Spanish lost. Every single boat. I lost 5.

I can now blockade with impunity.

164 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 6:40:06pm
165 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2015 6:46:50pm

NOAA has a 30-minute forecast for tonight’s aurora. They are now saying it might be seen as far south as Florida.

166 The War TARDIS  Mar 17, 2015 6:48:44pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

That means i should go outside. I have never seen an aurora.

167 Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2015 6:49:23pm

Well, it’s looking like Netanyahu’s victory announcement is unfortunately going to end up being accurate.

168 Drive By Commenter  Mar 17, 2015 6:50:41pm

re: #131 #FergusonFireside

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Something like “Grifting my Grift”? Muscling in on my scam? Trying to outdupe my dupes? Eat your own. I love it when people like these two nimrods trip all over one another. Lovers spat. But the makeup sex will be killer I bet.

169 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 17, 2015 6:52:05pm

re: #166 The War TARDIS

The experts are saying check around midnight (give or take).
But the 30 minute forecast tool will let you know when it gets close to your area.

170 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 17, 2015 6:53:16pm

re: #166 The War TARDIS

That means i should go outside. I have never seen an aurora.

auroras, aureoles, it’s all good

171 Charles Johnson  Mar 17, 2015 6:55:33pm

I’ve supported Israel for many years, and I still do.

But this far right government, allied with the worst elements of US politics, is really testing that support.

172 ObserverArt  Mar 17, 2015 6:58:56pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

Well, it’s looking like Netanyahu’s victory announcement is unfortunately going to end up being accurate.

Ugh, If so. Crazy times.

Edit to add…later all.

173 WhatEVs  Mar 17, 2015 7:03:55pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

I’ve supported Israel for many years, and I still do.

But this far right government, allied with the worst elements of US politics, is really testing that support.

When you have a foreign leader messing in our politics, I draw my line of support. For this American, supporting someone trying to undermine my country, THAT support stops at this border.

174 goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2015 7:04:07pm

I’m in a Starbucks right now, sitting next to a black customer, one of the employees is mopping the floor and I am cravenly not initiating a “conversation about race relations in America.” This isn’t Sparta, it’s Simi Valley, and this is always in the back of my mind.

/feels bad, man.

175 WhatEVs  Mar 17, 2015 7:05:41pm

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

I’m in a Starbucks right now, sitting next to a black customer, one of the employees is mopping the floor and I am cravenly not initiating a “conversation about race relations in America.” This isn’t Sparta, it’s Simi Valley, and this is always in the back of my mind.

/feels bad, man.

That was a theoretical nicety and a reality nightmare. Starbucks did not think that through.

176 retired cynic  Mar 17, 2015 7:05:54pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

I am way too late to be answering this, but this is my district, and it has been gerrymandered to be Republican. Don’t expect miracles. :<

177 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 7:08:24pm

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

H E H

178 RadicalModerate  Mar 17, 2015 7:11:26pm

Is it a certainty that Netanyahu will retain the PM position? I’m asking since every report I’ve seen states that the Joint List and Yesh Atid would be aligning with Herzog’s Zionist Union party - which would be more than sufficient to leave Likud in a minority position.

179 CuriousLurker  Mar 17, 2015 7:11:58pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

I’ve never liked Netanyahu, but after the stunt he pulled with the help of Boehner and the ugly racist remarks he made about Arabs today, I really despise him. I was watching i24 News’ live feed all afternoon. The anchor was an Arab Israeli woman named Lucy Aharish. She was absolutely furious over it and I don’t blame her one bit—my hair would’ve been on fire too.

180 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 17, 2015 7:12:12pm
181 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 17, 2015 7:13:05pm

#tcot being insufferable douchey assholes, because it is a day ending in “day”

182 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 7:14:05pm

re: #179 CuriousLurker

I’ve never liked Netanyahu, but after the stunt he pulled with the help of Boehner and the ugly racist remarks he made about Arabs today, I really despise him. I was watching i24 TV’s live feed all afternoon. The anchor was an Arab Israeli woman named Lucy Aharish. She was absolutely furious over it and I don’t blame her one bit—my hair would’ve been on fire too.

He’s a racist prick. And there will never ever be peace when he runs the program.

183 goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2015 7:18:33pm

re: #175 WhatEVs

That was a theoretical nicety and a reality nightmare. Starbucks did not think that through.

I don’t know. It was kind of bizarre and random and it’s definitely awkward as all fuck, but I’m laughing my ass off on the inside just because it’s also brave and long overdue / necessary in some form. It’s comedy in it’s purest form, the absolute subversion of expectations, especially in modern, introverted, “everyone go out together and ignore each other while looking at their iPhones and laptops” society.

The only thing that’s expected about it in retrospect is, of course it would be Starbucks that does this, with their “we’re the Third Place ideology.”

184 CuriousLurker  Mar 17, 2015 7:19:50pm

re: #178 RadicalModerate

It’s my understanding that it could be weeks before coalitions are formed and a PM chosen. It’s a crazy system and I had a really hard time trying to keep up with what was going on, It didn’t help that half the time all the guests on i24 were arguing, shouting, and waving their hands around, heh.

185 goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2015 7:20:59pm

Imma shake this shit up, going to the paint aisle at Home Depot and talk to the people there about the Mexican American experience.

186 Romantic Heretic  Mar 17, 2015 7:20:59pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

Just remember: Bigger cannons for your galleys and cut the rams off your bows if needed to mount said cannon.

Not kidding, BTW: Replying on cannon instead of ramming let Spanish, Genoese, and Venetian galleys devastate their ottoman counterparts at Lepanto.

There were only six galleasses so outfitted at Lepanto. The biggest difference I believe was Spanish soldiers on board, armed with gunpowder weapons.

187 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 7:21:17pm

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

I don’t know. It was kind of bizarre and random and it’s definitely awkward as all fuck, but I’m laughing my ass off on the inside just because it’s also brave and long overdue / necessary in some form. It’s comedy in it’s purest form, the absolute subversion of expectations, especially in modern, introverted, “everyone go out together and ignore each other while looking at their iPhones and laptops” society.

The only thing that’s expected about in retrospect is, of course it would be Starbucks that does this, with their “we’re the Third Place ideology.”

My immediate response was hmmmm. Then the backlash. Then more hmmmm.

188 goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2015 7:23:12pm

Seriously tho’, I gotta go next door to the CVS Pharmacy and get some postage stamps. Wondering what their thoughts are on intersectionality?

189 Romantic Heretic  Mar 17, 2015 7:24:25pm

re: #166 The War TARDIS

That means i should go outside. I have never seen an aurora.

If you’re far enough away from cities with all their noise you might be able to hear them as well.

When I lived in northern British Columbia I heard them once, barely.

190 jaunte  Mar 17, 2015 7:25:17pm

re: #188 goddamnedfrank

“Inter-what?”

191 b_sharp  Mar 17, 2015 7:26:09pm

re: #189 Romantic Heretic

If you’re far enough away from cities with all their noise you might be able to hear them as well.

When I lived in northern British Columbia I heard them once, barely.

I heard them in the ’70s while stoned.

192 CuriousLurker  Mar 17, 2015 7:26:37pm

re: #184 CuriousLurker

It’s my understanding that it could be weeks before coalitions are formed and a PM chosen. It’s a crazy system and I had a really hard time trying to keep up with what was going on, It didn’t help that half the time all the guests on i24 were arguing, shouting, and waving their hands around, heh.

And even then, if the coalitions are shaky and/or people want to even the score where old grudges are concerned, it could all fall apart and another election would have to be called.

193 WhatEVs  Mar 17, 2015 7:26:53pm

re: #188 goddamnedfrank

You’re so freaking funny, I’m laughing so hard…you made me cry!

On a separate note, I didn’t know you were in Cali. (Sigh) So many lizards are where I dream of living. I’m trying to figure out how I can go where I can only afford a garage…with no home attached (or detached).

194 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 7:29:05pm

re: #193 WhatEVs

You’re so freaking funny, I’m laughing so hard…you made me cry!

On a separate note, I didn’t know you were in Cali. (Sigh) So many lizards are where I dream of living. I’m trying to figure out how I can go where I can only afford a garage…with no home attached (or detached).

I’m trying to leave. It is paradise. But with an exorbitant price for a single person with an average salary.

Take the trip though, I have for 15 years.

195 CuriousLurker  Mar 17, 2015 7:29:12pm

Anywho, I’m outta here. Later, lizards.

196 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 17, 2015 7:30:12pm

Vanguard I, launched 57 years ago today and still in orbit.

Its transmitter died long ago but tracking it for 57 years is the biggest single contributor to our knowledge of the Earth’s figure.

197 WhatEVs  Mar 17, 2015 7:30:58pm

re: #194 #FergusonFireside

When I was traveling a lot for work, I’d go to CA 10 or more times a year. I miss that. And I miss CA.

OR and WA are nice. But CA has my heart.

198 WhatEVs  Mar 17, 2015 7:31:18pm

re: #195 CuriousLurker

Anywho, I’m outta here. Later, lizards.

Night night. Sweet dreams!

199 goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2015 7:31:57pm

re: #190 jaunte

“Inter-what?”

The interplay between race and gender in society’s institutions.

/you insensitive clod.

200 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 7:32:27pm
201 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 7:38:28pm

So Dick Cheney said something repugnant?

202 goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2015 7:41:43pm

Intersectionality is analogous to “super-additivity” in photographic developers. For instance, how Hydroquinone and Metol mixed together are more potent than their individual developing qualities would indicate. Basically being a black woman in our society is “super-suckative” in the sense that it carries bullshit effects that can’t be predicted from the “black” or “female” experience considered independently.

It’s fucking science y’all.

Why does everything I type seem way more sarcastic than I intend? This is a sincere attempt by a weird middle aged white dude with an M.S. in Photography to relate and educate the peeps.

203 b_sharp  Mar 17, 2015 7:42:30pm

re: #201 #FergusonFireside

So Dick Cheney said something repugnant?

Would that be new?

204 jaunte  Mar 17, 2015 7:42:37pm

re: #199 goddamnedfrank

Just the other night I was at CVS talking to the person at the register about how the anticategorical approach is based on the methodology that deconstructs analytical categories, and they made me leave.

205 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 17, 2015 7:43:50pm

re: #202 goddamnedfrank

Intersectionality is analogous to “super-additivity” in photographic developers. For instance, how Hydroquinone and Metol mixed together are more potent than their individual developing qualities would indicate. Basically being a black woman is super-suckative in the sense that it carries effects that can’t be predicted from the “black” or “female” experience considered independently.

It’s fucking science y’all.

Why does everything I type seem way more sarcastic than I intend? This is the sincere attempt by a weird middle aged white dude with an M.S. in Photography to relate and educate the peeps.

i suppose ‘intersectionality” sounds way more impressive and social science-y than “double whammy,” too.

206 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 17, 2015 7:44:57pm

re: #204 jaunte

Just the other night I was at CVS talking to the person at the register about how the anticategorical approach is based on the methodology that deconstructs analytical categories, and they made me leave.

Let me guess, you were suggesting a new way to arrange the chewing gum display at the checkout.

207 goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2015 7:45:32pm

re: #205 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

i suppose ‘intersectionality” sounds way more impressive and social science-y than “double whammy,” too.

Double whammy also carries the implication that 1+1=2. The entire point of intersectionality is that it equals >2.

208 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 17, 2015 7:47:41pm

re: #206 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Let me guess, you were suggesting a new way to arrange the chewing gum display at the checkout.

I’ve got to get into a philosophical discussion with the manager at Fred Meyer about the arrangement of the cereal aisle. Some stores are by type, some are by brand, but Freddie’s must be based on some postmodern French philosophy I don’t know about….

209 #FergusonFireside  Mar 17, 2015 7:49:10pm

I retreat.

210 goddamnedfrank  Mar 17, 2015 7:51:27pm

Anyway, sadly only fine art lepers use film anymore so my analogy only works on quasi extinct olds and the odd millennial hipster.

211 Decatur Deb  Mar 17, 2015 7:53:17pm

re: #210 goddamnedfrank

Anyway, sadly only fine art lepers use film anymore so my analogy only works on quasi extinct olds and the odd millennial hipster.

Watch ya mouth, punk.

212 wrenchwench  Mar 17, 2015 7:59:33pm

re: #211 Decatur Deb

Watch ya mouth, punk.

That sounds way better than ‘I guess that makes me a quasi extinct old.’

213 Decatur Deb  Mar 17, 2015 8:00:42pm

re: #212 wrenchwench

That sounds way better than ‘I guess that makes me a quasi extinct old.’

Or a leper. Shot 3 rolls of Fujicolor this month.

214 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 17, 2015 8:00:44pm

re: #210 goddamnedfrank

Anyway, sadly only fine art lepers use film anymore so my analogy only works on quasi extinct olds and the odd millennial hipster.

Be good or I’ll start talking about Pyro & Amidol.

215 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 17, 2015 8:01:29pm

re: #213 Decatur Deb

Or a leper. Shot 3 rolls of Fujicolor this month.

My Rolliecord is sitting on my desk, roll of 100 iso in it & a yellow filter on the taking lens.

216 Decatur Deb  Mar 17, 2015 8:02:09pm

re: #214 William Barnett-Lewis

Be good or I’ll start talking about Pyro & Amidol.

I was souping E2 when GDF’s daddy was trying to get his mommy to show some ankle.

217 palomino  Mar 17, 2015 8:07:34pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Well, that’s different. Netanyahu is white and he’s a conservative. Making him king over some white but mostly brown people just makes sense. By contrast, Obama is a [the n-word]. Letting him become king over anyone but other [the n-word, plural] would be The Worst Thing Ever!

I don’t get it, man. It’s like you know how much racism/irrational thinking/ODS exists in your party, and you find it repellent, but you still can’t walk away. Like battered spouse syndrome, but for political partisans.

218 Great White Snark  Mar 17, 2015 8:09:27pm

Whew. 12 hour day. Good news is got a consulting/technical gig for some extra bucks. And on the same day scored a gig to melt and roll some gold on camera for a small video production.

219 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 17, 2015 8:09:31pm

re: #217 palomino

I don’t get it, man. It’s like you know how much racism/irrational thinking/ODS exists in your party, and you find it repellent, but you still can’t walk away. Like battered spouse syndrome, but for political partisans.

That’s an interesting analogy. It may hold more truth than we think…

220 dell*nix  Mar 17, 2015 8:13:39pm

Photo Lab Index?

221 Decatur Deb  Mar 17, 2015 8:14:41pm

re: #220 dell*nix

Photo Lab Index?

Ernest Pittaro compact edition in my lap. 1977.

222 dell*nix  Mar 17, 2015 8:16:26pm

I was subscribed to the physical edition especially while in SEA. Revisions were as much fun as keeping Technical orders up to date.

223 Decatur Deb  Mar 17, 2015 8:18:54pm

re: #222 dell*nix

I was subscribed to the physical edition especially while in SEA. Revisions were as much fun as keeping Technical orders up to date.

Mine was shelved next to C.E.K. Mees’ From Dry Plates to Ektachrome Film., 1961.

224 Decatur Deb  Mar 17, 2015 8:20:51pm

re: #222 dell*nix

I was subscribed to the physical edition especially while in SEA. Revisions were as much fun as keeping Technical orders up to date.

MOS 84 Bravo?

225 dell*nix  Mar 17, 2015 8:24:29pm

Aircraft armament systems, 462X0. USAF.

226 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 1:52:52am

re: #200 #FergusonFireside

Blaming a whole racial group for racism is racist in itself. And yes, it is a together thing because no group is free from racism.

227 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Mar 18, 2015 4:23:50am

“Right Wing Journalism” is not corrupt. In order to be corrupt, you have to start from a baseline of integrity and honesty. There is no violation of integrity and honesty when your fundamental ideology is one of complete and utter devotion to dogma.

“Right Wing Journalism” is nothing other than propaganda, and they are quite open about it. Propaganda outlets operate not on truth or honesty. They exist to simply convey the message and often confirm ultra-nationalist prejudices. In this, they are tools, neither honest or dishonest. Neither are they corrupt. They are naked in their devotion to anti-science, anti-intellectual, and xenophobic dogma. They don’t pretend otherwise. They are simply a hammer. A hammer is not corrupt or dishonest. It simply exists to serve a particular job.

228 Bass Reeves  Mar 18, 2015 4:50:22am

re: #226 Nyet

Eh, I think that delves into the difference between the actual definition of racism and the common usage definition that conflates racism with bigotry. I’m curious if that’s been an intentional thing over the years to make racism seem like an ‘everyone does it’, when in reality a racial minority really can’t oppress a racial majority.

229 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 1:06:44pm

re: #228 Bass Reeves

Eh, I think that delves into the difference between the actual definition of racism and the common usage definition that conflates racism with bigotry. I’m curious if that’s been an intentional thing over the years to make racism seem like an ‘everyone does it’, when in reality a racial minority really can’t oppress a racial majority.

It’s not an “actual definition”. It’s a late re-definition attempt by some of a conventional term.
Here is the actual definition:

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior:
a programme to combat racism

1.1The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races:
theories of racism

oxforddictionaries.com

As you see, racism in general sense is racial prejudice, not necessarily an ability to oppress anyone. Racism is not synonymous with institutional racism.


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