Rick Santorum Meets the Crazies at the “South Carolina National Security Action Summit”

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Did you know President Obama tried to nuke Charleston? Yes, he really did, honest! It’s amazing how well the left wing media covered this up!

The look on Santorum’s face is classic, as a “retired schoolteacher” rambles on and on spewing one batshit crazy World Net Daily talking point after another. And then he proceeds to just carry on as if nothing weird happened, and doesn’t even mention the whole nuking Charleston thing.

Here we see the right wing base in its natural habitat.

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214 comments
1 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 2:17:33pm

As I said, this guy was number 2 in the Republican primary four years ago and honestly if he had more corporate pool, he could well have been the nominee. He’s a big part of everything wrong with the GOP as a party since he’s a pathetic coward that relies on scaring GOP voters about abortion, gay people, and President Obama because he wants to control people through fear.

2 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 18, 2015 2:19:32pm

Yeah, how come we haven’t heard about this? I know I don’t watch Faux or listen to Rush, but we usually hearing their reports 2nd or 3rd hand from someone, but this? Just nothing. Media, please do better.

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3 Dark_Falcon  Mar 18, 2015 2:20:20pm

Here’s a local news piece on the event. Sponsored by Frank Gaffney’s Center For Security Policy, it also featured John Bolton and Ted Cruz. Bobby Jindal couldn’t make a planned appearance due to “plane issues”, but did send along a video.

4 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 2:20:31pm

Crazy candidate, crazy old person. What else could we expect?

5 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 2:21:33pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

Here’s a local news piece on the event. Sponsored by Frank Gaffney’s Center For Security Policy, it also featured John Bolton and Ted Cruz. Bobby Jindal couldn’t make a planned appearance due to “plane issues”, but did send along a video.

I see. The worst crazies were there. Now it makes sense…

6 Charles Johnson  Mar 18, 2015 2:22:57pm
7 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 2:23:48pm

re: #5 Justanotherhuman

I see. The worst crazies were there. Now it makes sense…

Crazies gotta stick together.

8 wrenchwench  Mar 18, 2015 2:25:40pm

Reagan did more to ‘legitimize’ the Iranians than anyone else.

9 blueraven  Mar 18, 2015 2:26:33pm

Wow! I feel sorry for that woman. She is a heart attack waiting to happen.

Thanks right wing media!

10 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 2:27:18pm

re: #8 wrenchwench

Reagan did more to ‘legitimize’ the Iranians than anyone else.

Yeah Iran-Contra. He also armed Saddam too. Seriously I just look at the shit Reagan actually did as president and I try to imagine the right’s reaction if Obama did them. Not Obama’s fault that their beloved Reagan did more to enable terrorists than Obama ever has.

11 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 2:27:19pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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Obviously Chuck is Obama’s stooge.

12 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 2:28:01pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

It’s OK, Reagan supported the killing squads that murdered leftists. This makes up for any sins.
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13 A Cranky One  Mar 18, 2015 2:28:18pm

re: #9 blueraven

Wow! I feel sorry for that woman. She is a heart attack waiting to happen.

Thanks right wing media!

Why do I have the feeling the woman would be livid if Medicare was ended? SMH.

14 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 18, 2015 2:28:39pm

re: #11 Nyet

Obviously Chuck is Obama’s stooge.

First, CCJ picked a fight with Holly Lobby Hobby, then with Dana Gunz, and now he blows it on the Obama nuke coverage.

15 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 2:29:29pm

re: #12 Nyet

It’s OK, Reagan supported the killing squads that murdered leftists. This makes up for any sins.
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It always amuses me when Reagan’s cheerleaders and yes i’ll call them that love to claim he championed democracy. You only need to look in Latin and South America to know that Ronnie didn’t care about totalitarianism, if the Soviets had been a right wing and anti-communist regime, he would have had no problem with them just like he had no problem with Pinochet, the Argentine junta, and the Contras.

16 Zamb  Mar 18, 2015 2:30:33pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

It always amuses me when Reagan’s cheerleaders and yes i’ll call them that love to claim he championed democracy. You only need to look in Latin and South America to know that Ronnie didn’t care about totalitarianism, if the Soviets had been a right wing and anti-communist regime, he would have had no problem with them just like he had no problem with Pinochet, the Argentine junta, and the Contras.

Real democracies don’t elect liberals.

17 Dark_Falcon  Mar 18, 2015 2:31:35pm

re: #11 Nyet

Obviously Chuck is Obama’s stooge.

Obamunists are tricksy, no doubt about it. For that matter, you could miss a key Glenn Beck scoop, then end up calling The Truth wrong and so become a O-bot!

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18 ObserverArt  Mar 18, 2015 2:32:03pm

Rick Santorum is a spineless punk.

He could have stopped that crazy tirade right from the get-go but he let it go because he wanted to amp the crap up.

That is why the GOP is a total failure. Accept the crazies for the votes and not a care in the world that the rhetoric is getting dangerous.

They better listen a little close though. That loon was ready to take on ALL politicians, even saying the last election was a dud because Obama and Obamacare are still there. They are getting closer to saying the Republicans are as much a problem.

If loony has a gun and gets too amped up and attacks, it won’t matter what party the dead politician is from. The GOP better start to realize this little scenario they help along could well be aimed at them too.

19 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 2:32:26pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

South Africa.

20 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 18, 2015 2:32:27pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Yeah Iran-Contra. He also armed Saddam too. Seriously I just look at the shit Reagan actually did as president and I try to imagine the right’s reaction if Obama did them. Not Obama’s fault that their beloved Reagan did more to enable terrorists than Obama ever has.

and never forget the craven reaction to the bombing of the marine barracks in lebanon

this alone should have branded reagan as the most terrorist-enabling and chickenshit presidents in american history

21 Dr. Matt  Mar 18, 2015 2:32:43pm

Man on Dog Ricky said that the President should bring the Iran-treaty to Senate so they can ratify it…..but, only the POTUS can ratify a treaty.

22 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 2:32:56pm

re: #19 Nyet

South Africa.

Yep.

23 Dark_Falcon  Mar 18, 2015 2:33:59pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

It always amuses me when Reagan’s cheerleaders and yes i’ll call them that love to claim he championed democracy. You only need to look in Latin and South America to know that Ronnie didn’t care about totalitarianism, if the Soviets had been a right wing and anti-communist regime, he would have had no problem with them just like he had no problem with Pinochet, the Argentine junta, and the Contras.

If the Soviet Union had not been so hostile to the United States, Reagan would not have been elected. So your counter-factual runs afoul of a cardinal group of facts, those being the reasons Ronald Reagan was elected president.

24 ObserverArt  Mar 18, 2015 2:34:14pm

Gotta run…see you all a bit later!

25 Kragar  Mar 18, 2015 2:34:40pm

A woman screams at him saying Congress isn’t stopping Obama, calls Obama a tyrant, cites pedophile Larry Klayman over impeachment, says Obama is culling the military of officers and claims Obama tried to blow up Charleston, and what is Santorum’s response?

“Well, I’m not actually in Congress right now.”

26 Tigger2  Mar 18, 2015 2:35:09pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

Here’s a local news piece on the event. Sponsored by Frank Gaffney’s Center For Security Policy, it also featured John Bolton and Ted Cruz. Bobby Jindal couldn’t make a planned appearance due to “plane issues”, but did send along a video.

Not one of them is fit to be the President. In fact no Republicans is right now the way they are. And to tell you the truth I don’t think any Republican will be fit to be the President until the GOP pulls it’s head out of the far rights ass.

27 Dark_Falcon  Mar 18, 2015 2:35:41pm

re: #19 Nyet

South Africa.

The geo-politics in that case outweighed the moral considerations. South Africa’s gold, diamonds and strategic position were too important to lose access to.

28 wrenchwench  Mar 18, 2015 2:36:00pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

If the Soviet Union had not been so hostile to the United States, Reagan would not have been elected. So your counter-factual runs afoul of a cardinal group of facts, those being the reasons Ronald Reagan was elected president.

Reagan ran on fear, not facts.

29 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 2:36:12pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

If the Soviet Union had not been so hostile to the United States, Reagan would not have been elected. So your counter-factual runs afoul of a cardinal group of facts, those being the reasons Ronald Reagan was elected president.

Doesn’t take away from that Reagan’s sole objection to the Soviet’s totalitarianism was that it was a leftist regime and not that they were you know a totalitarian regime. Reagan can’t be praised as this great champion of freedom when he not only turned a blind eye to totalitarianism in our backyard but also enabled it. Sorry if that hurts but the man was a capital F-fraud.

30 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 2:36:12pm

re: #25 Kragar

A woman screams at him saying Congress isn’t stopping Obama, calls Obama a tyrant, cites pedophile Larry Klayman over impeachment, says Obama is culling the military of officers and claims Obama tried to blow up Charleston, and what is Santorum’s response?

“Well, I’m not actually in Congress right now.”

Well, if he’d pointed out that she was nuts and completely disconnected from reality, he would have lost the election right there, and we can’t have that happening. This is just part of the price we pay for politics, clearly, and no Republican should be held accountable for it.

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31 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 2:36:49pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

The geo-politics in that case outweighed the moral considerations. South Africa’s gold, diamonds and strategic position were too important to lose access to.

I hardly ever downding but defending the enabling of the Apartheid regime gets it here.

32 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 18, 2015 2:37:10pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

It always amuses me when Reagan’s cheerleaders and yes i’ll call them that love to claim he championed democracy. You only need to look in Latin and South America to know that Ronnie didn’t care about totalitarianism, if the Soviets had been a right wing and anti-communist regime, he would have had no problem with them just like he had no problem with Pinochet, the Argentine junta, and the Contras.

and the contemporary putin love of the right wing demonstrates this very well

33 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 18, 2015 2:37:21pm

Holy fucking shit.
I can’t believe what I am listening to.

34 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 2:38:00pm

re: #32 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

and the contemporary putin love of the right wing demonstrates this very well

And Margaret Thatcher begging her country to let Pinochet get refuge there.

35 wrenchwench  Mar 18, 2015 2:38:11pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

The geo-politics in that case outweighed the moral considerations. South Africa’s gold, diamonds and strategic position were too important to lose access to.

And if we criticize those geo-politics now, you’re here to defend them?

36 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 2:40:02pm

re: #35 wrenchwench

And if we criticize those geo-politics now, you’re here to defend them?

I’ll take bets on how much longer before the BBL.

37 Dr. Matt  Mar 18, 2015 2:40:39pm

I wonder if the batshit crazy in the video above is related to this batshit crazy lady?

…

38 Dark_Falcon  Mar 18, 2015 2:41:16pm

re: #36 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ll take bets on how much longer before the BBL.

Less than 15 minutes, actually.

39 Blizard  Mar 18, 2015 2:41:41pm

Meanwhile, Beck says he’s no longer a republican. Wut? Another rat fleeing the ship?

Link

40 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 2:42:52pm

re: #39 Blizard

Meanwhile, Beck says he’s no longer a republican. Wut? Another rat fleeing the ship?

Link

Let me guess since the link did not work for me, it’s more of the usual, I’m a conservative not a Republican crap even though by November of next fall he’ll be telling all his fans to vote R to stop Hillary or whoever the Dem nominee is.

41 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 2:43:55pm

re: #39 Blizard

Oh, Rush has this shtick of sometimes saying he’ll no longer carry the water for the GOP. Then he orders a whole cistern.

42 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 2:44:02pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

Less than 15 minutes, actually.

Well there’s a surprise.

(or not.)

43 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 2:44:18pm

re: #39 Blizard

: is missing

44 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 18, 2015 2:44:48pm

He’s spewing some shit out his mouth about “building a road for the Mahdi”

This is some weapons grade crazy

45 wrenchwench  Mar 18, 2015 2:46:14pm
46 Kragar  Mar 18, 2015 2:47:26pm
47 Blizard  Mar 18, 2015 2:48:37pm

Link work now? I messed up first time. Probably due to not posting for several years, derp.

Link

48 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 2:48:56pm

re: #46 Kragar

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Erik Rush would believe it if you told him Obama had Nazi assassins planning to kill him.

49 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 2:49:40pm

re: #47 Blizard

Link work now? I messed up first time. Probably due to not posting for several years, derp.

Link

Much better, thanks! So it’s him bitching about how Cruz and Lee have been treated by the establishment.

50 Blizard  Mar 18, 2015 2:49:58pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

double-derp, forgot to quote too, whoopsie

Link

51 Kragar  Mar 18, 2015 2:50:07pm
52 darthstar  Mar 18, 2015 2:50:09pm

re: #28 wrenchwench

Reagan ran on fear, not facts.

Red Dawn.

53 darthstar  Mar 18, 2015 2:52:13pm
54 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 2:54:20pm

re: #53 darthstar

” I have become Death”

Way to butcher the phrase! “I am become…” ;)

55 Blizard  Mar 18, 2015 2:54:38pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

Right. And not defeating ACA. I kind of want to see him try taking on the NRA. And him swiping claws at Grover should be interesting too.

56 wrenchwench  Mar 18, 2015 2:55:22pm
57 Kragar  Mar 18, 2015 2:55:57pm
58 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 2:56:21pm

re: #55 Blizard

Right. And not defeating ACA. I kind of want to see him try taking on the NRA. And him swiping claws at Grover should be interesting too.

Yeah that will be amusing to watch.

59 Drive By Commenter  Mar 18, 2015 2:56:51pm

Rick can’t say anything. These are the people who pay his bills and backs his party. Besides that reality, Rick is a Grade A Creep.

60 Kragar  Mar 18, 2015 2:57:00pm
61 Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2015 2:57:57pm

re: #9 blueraven

Wow! I feel sorry for that woman. She is a heart attack waiting to happen.

Thanks right wing media!

School. Teacher.

62 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 2:58:32pm

hahahahaaa!
CCJ brags about being a Viking, a 9th Century Viking woman is found buried wearing a ring with the inscription “for Allah”, so CCJ must be Muslim!!!!

(On a side note, I also find it amusing the woman was buried in Birka, Sweden…Birka sounds suspiciously like burka, no? :D )

From the WaPo story, this is also amusing given CCJ’s poop history:

Still, the Scandinavians did raise some eyebrows on their journeys. In an otherwise complimentary description of people now believed to be Vikings, Ahmad ibn Fadlan, an emissary of the Abbasid Caliph, wasn’t so sure about their hygiene. “They are the filthiest of all Allah’s creatures,” the Arab writer wrote in the 10th century. “They do not purify themselves after excreting or urinating or wash themselves when in a state of ritual impurity after coitus and do not even wash their hands after food.”

63 Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2015 2:59:20pm

re: #45 wrenchwench

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Yet he went on and translated her confederate gibberish into wonkspeak.

64 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 3:01:21pm

Meanwhile, University of Kentucky just got the Presidential Kiss of Death:

Thanks, Obama…

65 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 3:01:55pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahaaa!
CCJ brags about being a Viking, a 9th Century Viking woman is found buried wearing a ring with the inscription “for Allah”, so CCJ must be Muslim!!!!

(On a side note, I also find it amusing the woman was buried in Birka, Sweden…Birka sounds suspiciously like burka, no? :D )

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From the WaPo story, this is also amusing given CCJ’s poop history:

I also got a kick out of him saying that the Vikings were raping and enslaving all the Irish. IIRC history correctly, the Vikings never really got into western Ireland. So no Chuckles, no slaving Connemara for you.

66 darthstar  Mar 18, 2015 3:02:24pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve already got the winning bracket anyway.

67 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 3:02:45pm
68 darthstar  Mar 18, 2015 3:03:15pm
69 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 3:03:23pm

re: #66 darthstar

I’ve already got the winning bracket anyway.

That’s the one where I ignore the whole thing and write in the word “hockey” everywhere instead, right?

;)

I try to pretend because mr. klys is from North Carolina and while he is sensible and doesn’t give a shit about this, his parents do.

70 Kragar  Mar 18, 2015 3:03:49pm
71 goddamnedfrank  Mar 18, 2015 3:03:53pm

First some birds wake me up early this morning and now they shit all over my car. It’s fucking on now. This aggression will not stand, man.

72 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 3:04:10pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

I also got a kick out of him saying that the Vikings were raping and enslaving all the Irish. IIRC history correctly, the Vikings never really got into western Ireland. So no Chuckles, no slaving Connemara for you.

And the Irish are still alive and kicking.
Vikings, not so much.

73 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 3:04:41pm

What could possibly go wrong?

Texas Senate gives preliminary approval to allow concealed handguns in college classrooms - @abc13houston
read more on abc13.com

74 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 3:05:07pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

First some birds wake me up early this morning and now they shit all over my car. It’s fucking on now. This aggression will not stand, man.

If you’re in Florida, they let you spotlight them after dark…

75 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 3:05:10pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

And the Irish are still alive and kicking.
Vikings, not so much.

Yep.

76 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 3:05:33pm

re: #73 Justanotherhuman

What could possibly go wrong?

Texas Senate gives preliminary approval to allow concealed handguns in college classrooms - @abc13houston
read more on abc13.com

Yeah great idea. //

77 allegro  Mar 18, 2015 3:06:51pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

If you’re in Florida, they let you spotlight them after dark…

Only starlings, pigeons, and english sparrows. The rest are federally protected from not only killing but harassment. Watch out GDF!

78 Tigger2  Mar 18, 2015 3:06:59pm

re: #73 Justanotherhuman

What could possibly go wrong?

Texas Senate gives preliminary approval to allow concealed handguns in college classrooms - @abc13houston
read more on abc13.com

If I had a kid in that school my kid would be on the way home right now to look for a different school to go to.

79 wrenchwench  Mar 18, 2015 3:07:10pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

First some birds wake me up early this morning and now they shit all over my car. It’s fucking on now. This aggression will not stand, man.

Nice birds (far away).

80 A Cranky One  Mar 18, 2015 3:07:16pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

First some birds wake me up early this morning and now they shit all over my car. It’s fucking on now. This aggression will not stand, man.

Tell them to get the flock out of there. ;)

81 A Cranky One  Mar 18, 2015 3:08:22pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Professor, I’d like to discuss my grade with you! ///

82 allegro  Mar 18, 2015 3:09:54pm

re: #73 Justanotherhuman

What could possibly go wrong?

Texas Senate gives preliminary approval to allow concealed handguns in college classrooms - @abc13houston
read more on abc13.com

If I wasn’t already retired, I’d be out of the door quick if that passed. No way I’d stand in front of a class of armed students.

83 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 3:10:12pm

re: #81 A Cranky One

Professor, I’d like to discuss my grade with you! ///

Honestly having sat in lectures as recently as Saturday, where do these geniuses expect these guns to be placed? And let me guess they’re going to want to have them on them during labs too right?

84 allegro  Mar 18, 2015 3:11:00pm

re: #77 allegro

Only starlings, pigeons, and english sparrows. The rest are federally protected from not only killing but harassment. Watch out GDF!

I should say all other song and migratory birds. Game birds fall under state hunting jurisdictions.

85 CuriousLurker  Mar 18, 2015 3:11:50pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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OFFS, I hadn’t heard that one until this thread.

86 Kragar  Mar 18, 2015 3:12:15pm
87 EPR-radar  Mar 18, 2015 3:12:23pm

re: #73 Justanotherhuman

What could possibly go wrong?

Texas Senate gives preliminary approval to allow concealed handguns in college classrooms - @abc13houston
read more on abc13.com

That is a stupid and pin-headed move, even for Texas gun nuts.

88 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 3:12:31pm

re: #78 Tigger2

A good liberal would never allow their kids to go to any TX school after what we’ve learned about them.

89 Varek Raith  Mar 18, 2015 3:13:22pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A whaaaa?

90 RadicalModerate  Mar 18, 2015 3:15:37pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

The geo-politics in that case outweighed the moral considerations. South Africa’s gold, diamonds and strategic position were too important to lose access to.

Almost the exactly same argument was made by the Confederacy in their arguments for keeping slavery as an institution in the US.

91 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 3:15:48pm

re: #89 Varek Raith

A whaaaa?

Obama just keeps firing those same generals over and over and over for any little thing….

92 Kragar  Mar 18, 2015 3:15:59pm

See, I actually remember this BS nuke story when it popped up and I never expected to make me so happy years later.

93 Tigger2  Mar 18, 2015 3:16:01pm

re: #88 Justanotherhuman

A good liberal would never allow their kids to go to any TX school after what we’ve learned about them.

lol.

94 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 3:16:13pm
95 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 3:16:52pm

re: #94 Justanotherhuman

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Christ.

96 Drive By Commenter  Mar 18, 2015 3:17:13pm

And as the assembled crowd clapped their approval, with Santorum nodding knowingly, she burst into flames and pinwheeled out the door into traffic. Film at 11…
Actually Charleston was nuked, and rebuilt overnight with surgically transformed illegal aliens filling in for the dead population, which was buried at sea. I read that. Yep. Obama.

97 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 3:17:44pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I know. WTF? They’re goddamned ABC officers.

98 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 18, 2015 3:18:12pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

And the Irish are still alive and kicking.
Vikings, not so much.

And wasn’t “viking” more of a pastime than an ethnic group?

99 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 18, 2015 3:20:59pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

And Margaret Thatcher begging her country to let Pinochet get refuge there.

Franco, Pinochet, Reagan &Thatcher, if there truely is a benevolent god, are roommates for eternity in Gehenna.

100 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 3:20:59pm

I guess the routine for ABC officers in VA is to beat the shit out of you if you’re drinking alcohol and not yet 21.

Here’s more on this: cavalierdaily.com

101 blueraven  Mar 18, 2015 3:22:31pm

So the Aryan killer merits only a passing mention on Fox News Special Report (about 5 seconds, or so) but we are about to be regaled with the “wise” words of Dick Cheney trashing the POTUS.

Panel discussion to follow, I am sure.

102 RadicalModerate  Mar 18, 2015 3:22:44pm

re: #68 darthstar

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Since this occurred in Maricopa County, AZ, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Sheriff Joe “Stormfront” Arpaio knew the suspect personally -you know, like his well-known friendship with the now-dead neo-Nazi J T Ready,

103 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 18, 2015 3:25:07pm

Update on the flash drive issue.

Recuva and something else I tried couldn’t identify the drive. So, I opted for a quick format to at least allow access. Recuva still found no files. At this point I suspected the possibility that the drive corrupted when I loaded all the photos on it.

The source laptop was my work one. Encrypted hard drive, no save points, and additional annoyances. Cursory checks today indicated that I was not going to easily recover anything from there.

So, since I had an adapter, I pulled the SD card from my camera and hooked it up to the laptop. Recuva was able to find jpegs that could be recovered and I got 304 of the photos back. Luckily I had only taken another twenty photos with the camera on the remainder of the trip after I did the initial download. So I lost twenty-one photos from Skidaway Island and of Fort Pulaski. USS Alabama and the Naval Aviation Museum sets are intact. Might still find a few of the missing ones squirreled away since I did some editing and shifting before trying to do the mass transfer.

Overall, it could have worked out a bit better. But it also could have been quite a bit worse. Thanks to all who offered advice and software recommendations towards dealing with this. Plus the moral support. :)

DD, no fire ants included with the recovery.

104 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 18, 2015 3:35:01pm
American Jewish service in Schloss Reydt the residence of Joseph Goebbels

70 years ago today.

105 Shiplord Kirel  Mar 18, 2015 3:39:35pm
Did you know President Obama tried to nuke Charleston? Yes, he really did, honest!

A nuclear terrorist incident in Charleston was the premise of the 1983 made-for-TV movie Special Bulletin. Like Orson Welles’s famous 1938 broadcast of War of the Worlds, the movie was presented in the format of a news broadcast, with many, many disclaimers.
I really wonder if this might be the origin of the batshit conspiracy claims we are seeing? Perhaps the conspira-liars hope to represent outtakes as the real thing, or take advantage of the base having vague memories of having seen “something about that?”

107 blueraven  Mar 18, 2015 3:44:14pm

Krauthammer just said the Israeli election was between Nethanyahu and Obama.

WTF? The man is a creep.

How about the 2012 US Presidential election? Was that true then when “Bibi “endorsed” Mitt Romney?

108 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mar 18, 2015 3:46:52pm

re: #80 A Cranky One

Tell them to get the flock out of there. ;)

The most memorable, to me, ‘Six Million Dollar Man’ episode involved a winery run by nuns. Bad guys were smuggling diamonds in the bottles. During the chase scene the bad guys’ black Suburban, or whatever, was inundated by a flock of a thousand sheep and could not pursue. One of the bad guys jumps up on the hood and yells at the nuns: “Get the flock out of here!”

109 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 18, 2015 3:49:08pm

Wonkette’s take on the Cheney interview is a thing of rare and crystalline beauty.

110 Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2015 3:49:41pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

Street Dogs Drop Kick Some Neo-Nazis at St. Paddy’s Day Show in Anaheim

That’s deplorable. But not very. Note that one member of the group is ex-Dropkick Murphys.

111 wrenchwench  Mar 18, 2015 3:55:28pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

That’s deplorable. But not very. Note that one member of the group is ex-Dropkick Murphys.

That’s where the wording in the headline came from.

I am opposed to violence, with a few exceptions.

112 EPR-radar  Mar 18, 2015 3:56:05pm

re: #109 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That is impressive. My only observation on that topic is that Dick Cheney has a big mouth for a VP from an administration that was among the worst in US history.

The #1 spot on that list goes to the Buchanan administration for dithering before the civil war got started, along with the astounding belief that the Dred Scott decision would improve matters.

However, W et al. may well end up at #2 in the long run.

113 Kragar  Mar 18, 2015 3:57:18pm
114 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 3:59:17pm

re: #9 blueraven

Wow! I feel sorry for that woman. She is a heart attack waiting to happen.

Thanks right wing media!

Likely a heart attack with a gun waiting to happen.

115 makeitstop  Mar 18, 2015 4:02:37pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

That’s deplorable. But not very. Note that one member of the group is ex-Dropkick Murphys.

The Murphs have a very short fuse when it comes to Nazis.

And the one commenter on the Instagram shot (theoldironsides) is a friend of mine from LI.

116 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 4:04:49pm

Emergency officials: At least 8 people injured after shooting at shopping mall in Goteborg, Sweden - @svtnyheter
read more on svt.se

117 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 4:04:50pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

The geo-politics in that case outweighed the moral considerations. South Africa’s gold, diamonds and strategic position were too important to lose access to.

My friend’s 16 year old kid told me that about Iraq. We needed their oil so it was right for us to invade their country because they had oil and we need it. I chalked it up to a child’s mind.

You realize that that comment is completely sociopathic, right?

This is what I told that kid. That is like saying that you like someone’s shoes and you are more important than that other person and that they shouldn’t have them when you don’t. You can’t kill someone for their shoes. Nor can you for their gold, diamonds or position in the world.

118 wrenchwench  Mar 18, 2015 4:06:04pm

I like the way this guy writes.

Without abortion and gay sex, Cathi Herrod would cease to exist, melting like the Wicked Witch of the West hit with a torrential downpour.

Why, the more sodomy, scissoring, and pregnancy terminations there are, the better off Herrod, president of the Center for Arizona Policy, is.

See, her six-figure salary at the far-right, evangelical Christian “nonprofit” depends on her fanning the flames of hatred against gays and railing against the evils of not carrying a pregnancy to term.

Ironically (or not, depending on how you look at it), you could say Herrod’s doing a dang good job of keeping the abortion rate high in Arizona.

[…]

Even his ‘Top 10 Hottest Women in Arizona Politics’ wasn’t as bad as I expected.

119 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 4:06:59pm

Google translate (Gawd help us)

Eight people have been hospitalized after a shooting at Vårväderstorget on Hisingen in Gothenburg, says SOS Alarm. Ten ambulances and a large number of police were sent to the scene.

The alarm came to the police at 22:23.

- The shooting took place inside a restaurant on Vårväderstorget says Jenny Widén, spokesperson for the police Western Region.

Damage State of the shot is still unclear, according to police.

- First we got into it was five injured, then it turned out that there were three more. We sent a total of ten ambulances to the scene. Right now, I can see that five of them are at the hospital and unload injured, said Jack Soderberg at SOS, Expressen.

The police are in place and have cordoned off the area.

svt.se

120 Drive By Commenter  Mar 18, 2015 4:07:31pm

WELL THANK GOD THE JACK BOOTED THUGS OF THE ILLEGAL COMMUNIST NAZI DICTATOR DIDN’T GET HERE Y

121 Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2015 4:07:44pm

re: #111 wrenchwench

That’s where the wording in the headline came from.

I am opposed to violence, with a few exceptions.

One more concert and ‘to Drop Kick’ enters the dictionary.

122 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 4:08:49pm

bible-library.com

123 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 4:10:32pm

re: #46 Kragar

Wow. That was digging in the trash heap of wingnutia for her to bring that to the fore now.

124 wrenchwench  Mar 18, 2015 4:13:05pm

Later, lizards.

125 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 4:15:17pm

re: #124 wrenchwench

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Later, lizards.

story of my life in the Backwoods…sigh…

126 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 4:16:39pm

re: #88 Justanotherhuman

A good liberal would never allow their kids to go to any TX school after what we’ve learned about them.

Or use the textbooks they are foisting on the rest of the country.

127 Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2015 4:16:54pm

re: #122 Nyet

bible-library.com

More modern take:

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128 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 18, 2015 4:18:02pm

Ladies and gentlemen, here is how an adult deals with screeching rants from the lunatic fringe==>
…

129 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 4:18:38pm

re: #128 The Mother Of All Pies

Ladies and gentlemen, here is how an adult deals with screeching rants from the lunatic fringe==>
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LOL! I remember that and loved it!

130 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 4:26:00pm

I swear, I don’t think I’ve seen so many people go off the deep end in my life as now.

ODS appears to be invasive as hell these days and I fear it will get worse, esp when the Dems win 2016 because you know it will be all his fault.

We gotta get cracking, because, do we really want to continue like this? The election won’t be won if we don’t, and it’s has to be not just politics, but educating people as well. Too many reactionaries out there who will cheat, steal and kill just to win it, from what appears to be going on. I don’t want to live in that kind of country.

And it’s not just the crazies, it’s ordinary people, like the woman at the auto repair who said she was a science teacher—pleasant enough at first, but then started talking about places and neighborhoods you couldn’t go and certain “kinds” of people.

I read her well, and told her that I saw people the same way, that I thought they were human beings like me, and I wasn’t going to judge on that kind of basis. The conversation ended…

131 Shiplord Kirel  Mar 18, 2015 4:29:28pm

Charleston nuke woman is not a lone nut, she is part of a well organized and fairly large subculture of nuts. This is apparent from her references to things like Klayman and favorite WND talking points and conspiracy claims. This subculture, in turn, feeds on itself, a magnifying echo chamber whose stridency and potential for violence grow with each iteration. This, too, is apparent from the woman’s violent tone.

I really think we are headed for a violent showdown with these people, their rage grows by the day and their worldview is so divorced from reality that no compromise, negotiation, or mitigation is possible.

Whether liberals should arm themselves against this possibility is very much a matter of individual values and circumstances, so I can’t make any recommendation one way or the other. We have a fair contingent of armed liberals right here. It is not a decision to be taken lightly.

One thing I will say, and I mean this: Arming ourselves does not make us “just like them” or lower us to their level. Their self-perceived need for firearms is based on a historically and technically illiterate fantasy of being able to defeat the national army or the racist expectation of massacring zombie like hordes of “others” who will pour out of the inner cities to loot and pillage “when the welfare stops.” This is light years from discouraging drunken vigilantes or getting the drop on an amateur assassin.

132 EPR-radar  Mar 18, 2015 4:29:50pm

re: #130 Justanotherhuman

It is hard to see how this polarization of the US can resolve in any reasonable way. Compromise is simply not possible between the wingnuts and the rest of the country, and wingnut voters are too numerous to ignore.

133 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 4:35:21pm

re: #132 EPR-radar

I have to say, I don’t feel exactly comfortable around those truly political types, but so many around here don’t even follow politics. They just pick up shit from TV, radio, friends, or whatever. It’s almost a sub-culture of reactionary thought that they accept without question, then act all surprised when they hear a different POV.

Still, I don’t mind speaking up. If they want to beat up an old lady, they have real, deep-seated problems that no one can fix, but I certainly can live with myself in peace while they flail in their rage.

134 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 4:36:29pm

I really think that we’re seeing the final legacy of leaded gasoline, lead in kitchenware glazes, and lead stuff in other things.
Oh, and all the other crap that’s been clogging our urban air and water.

135 The Dude Abides  Mar 18, 2015 4:37:44pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

First some birds wake me up early this morning and now they shit all over my car. It’s fucking on now. This aggression will not stand, man.

They killed your f-ing car, Dude? This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

136 Blizard  Mar 18, 2015 4:37:47pm

re: #132 EPR-radar

United we stand, divided we will fall.

137 Skip Intro  Mar 18, 2015 4:38:17pm

re: #87 EPR-radar

That is a stupid and pin-headed move, even for Texas gun nuts.

Somehow, I doubt they included where the legislature meets in this gunhumper’s wet dream.

138 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 4:38:30pm

re: #128 The Mother Of All Pies

Ladies and gentlemen, here is how an adult deals with screeching rants from the lunatic fringe==>
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Video

That was teh awesum! I hadn’t seen that before.

It’s a shame that someone that young believes all that bullshit.

139 Timothy Watson  Mar 18, 2015 4:38:34pm

re: #100 Justanotherhuman

They also like scaring the shit out of teenage girls buying bottled water:

When a half-dozen men and a woman in street clothes closed in on University of Virginia student Elizabeth Daly, 20, she and two roommates panicked.

That led to Daly spending a night and an afternoon in the Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail. Her initial offense? Walking to her car with bottled water, cookie dough and ice cream just purchased from the Harris Teeter in the Barracks Road Shopping Center for a sorority benefit fundraiser.

A group of state Alcoholic Beverage Control agents clad in plainclothes approached her, suspecting the blue carton of LaCroix sparkling water to be a 12-pack of beer. Police say one of the agents jumped on the hood of her car. She says one drew a gun. Unsure of who they were, Daly tried to flee the darkened parking lot.

cavalierdaily.com

Charges were dropped, she sued, and ABC was supposed to adjust training/procedures, doesn’t seem to have worked out too well, if the current facts hold.

140 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 4:38:53pm

Indeed.

141 EPR-radar  Mar 18, 2015 4:39:02pm

re: #136 Blizard

United we stand, divided we will fall.

True. Also true is that if the wingnuts really want to have their ‘culture war’, then that is what we’ll have.

142 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 18, 2015 4:39:22pm

Liberals please do not be Teh Crazie. Kthxbai.

143 Blizard  Mar 18, 2015 4:40:06pm

re: #141 EPR-radar

Exactly. Textbook.

144 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 4:40:54pm

re: #139 Timothy Watson

They also like scaring the shit out of teenage girls buying bottled water:

cavalierdaily.com

Charges were dropped, she sued, and ABC was supposed to adjust training/procedures, doesn’t seem to have worked out too well, if the current facts hold.

Christ. People with power and guns of which they should have neither.

145 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 4:41:20pm

re: #142 The Mother Of All Pies

He won absolutely legitimately, and that’s the worst part.

146 goddamnedfrank  Mar 18, 2015 4:42:04pm

re: #135 The Dude Abides

They killed your f-ing car, dude?

These birds are nihilists. There’s nothing to be afraid of.

147 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 18, 2015 4:42:45pm

re: #117 WhatEVs

My friend’s 16 year old kid told me that about Iraq. We needed their oil so it was right for us to invade their country because they had oil and we need it. I chalked it up to a child’s mind.

You realize that that comment is completely sociopathic, right?

This is what I told that kid. That is like saying that you like someone’s shoes and you are more important than that other person and that they shouldn’t have them when you don’t. You can’t kill someone for their shoes. Nor can you for their gold, diamonds or position in the world.

But with American Exceptionalism, all that gold, diamonds, oil or position is YOURS BY RIGHT!!!
//

148 Mattand  Mar 18, 2015 4:42:51pm

re: #132 EPR-radar

It is hard to see how this polarization of the US can resolve in any reasonable way. Compromise is simply not possible between the wingnuts and the rest of the country, and wingnut voters are too numerous to ignore.

Yeah, this.

If I understand the thread correctly, there are people in this country who are so mentally destroyed by a black guy running the country, they think he tried to nuke an American city.

And then tried to cover it up.

And only they know the truth.

And it’s now a meme among Republicans/Tea Baggers/Conservatives.

I’ve got a bunch of thoughts about fighting another civil war, but I stop when I realize how nilihistic it comes off. But WTF; I don’t see how we can keep going like this.

A huge part of our population is certifiable, and when they’re not playing with their own shit, they’re literally playing with loaded weapons

Jesus Christ. On what fucking planet do you have to be on to believe Obama tried to nuke an American city?

149 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 18, 2015 4:43:35pm

re: #145 Nyet

He won absolutely legitimately, and that’s the worst part.

He won with 24% of the vote, which means 75% of the voters did not vote for him.

150 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 4:44:20pm

re: #149 The Mother Of All Pies

Enough voters voted for even crazier parties for him to win.

151 Mattand  Mar 18, 2015 4:44:41pm

re: #131 Shiplord Kirel

Charleston nuke woman is not a lone nut, she is part of a well organized and fairly large subculture of nuts. This is apparent from her references to things like Klayman and favorite WND talking points and conspiracy claims. This subculture, in turn, feeds on itself, a magnifying echo chamber whose stridency and potential for violence grow with each iteration. This, too, is apparent from the woman’s violent tone.

I really think we are headed for a violent showdown with these people, their rage grows by the day and their worldview is so divorced from reality that no compromise, negotiation, or mitigation is possible.

Whether liberals should arm themselves against this possibility is very much a matter of individual values and circumstances, so I can’t make any recommendation one way or the other. We have a fair contingent of armed liberals right here. It is not a decision to be taken lightly.

One thing I will say, and I mean this: Arming ourselves does not make us “just like them” or lower us to their level. Their self-perceived need for firearms is based on a historically and technically illiterate fantasy of being able to defeat the national army or the racist expectation of massacring zombie like hordes of “others” who will pour out of the inner cities to loot and pillage “when the welfare stops.” This is light years from discouraging drunken vigilantes or getting the drop on an amateur assassin.

Yeah, this also.

152 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 4:44:42pm

re: #149 The Mother Of All Pies

And he must form a coalition, which is going to be shaky, at best.

153 Mattand  Mar 18, 2015 4:45:31pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

The geo-politics in that case outweighed the moral considerations. South Africa’s gold, diamonds and strategic position were too important to lose access to.

You know how everyone keeps saying conservatives have no empathy?

154 blueraven  Mar 18, 2015 4:47:21pm

re: #152 Justanotherhuman

And he must form a coalition, which is going to be shaky, at best.

Oh I think he will manage it OK.
It will be a far, far right coalition. That is the scary part.

155 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 4:48:56pm

The cops are saying that the attack in Sweden was “gang-related”:

The alarm came to the police at 22:23.

- The shooting took place inside a restaurant on Vårväderstorget says Jenny Widén, spokesperson for the police Western Region.

- It came in two people with Kalashnikovs and started shooting, said an eyewitness who sat at a table inside the restaurant, according to Aftonbladet.

- It is clear that this is not common crime, it’s serious crime, and indications are that it is gang-related, says Gothenburg police spokesman Ulla Brehm.

svt.se

156 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 18, 2015 4:49:38pm

re: #154 blueraven

Oh I think he will manage it OK.
It will be a far, far right coalition. That is the scary part.

This. He appealed to the worst in people, and won big. It seems like stupid fearful, easily manipulated people are likely to become a dominant force, here and in Israel.

157 Timothy Watson  Mar 18, 2015 4:50:51pm

re: #117 WhatEVs

My friend’s 16 year old kid told me that about Iraq. We needed their oil so it was right for us to invade their country because they had oil and we need it. I chalked it up to a child’s mind.

You realize that that comment is completely sociopathic, right?

This is what I told that kid. That is like saying that you like someone’s shoes and you are more important than that other person and that they shouldn’t have them when you don’t. You can’t kill someone for their shoes. Nor can you for their gold, diamonds or position in the world.

In international relations, it’s called realism.

To be fair, it does have some good points and I’ve always found it preferable to the liberalism of George W. Bush and his support for the Democratic Peace Theory.

158 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 4:52:42pm

re: #156 Blind Frog Belly White

I dunno. I have some hope for Israel. They can’t all be as bitter and ugly as he is. And I think many are tired of the conflict and want peaceful resolutions.

159 Mattand  Mar 18, 2015 4:54:04pm

Apologies if this is posted above, but apparently the Obama tried to nuke SC idiocy originated with a crackpot European publication.

160 Belafon  Mar 18, 2015 4:55:17pm

re: #157 Timothy Watson

In international relations, it’s called realism.

To be fair, it does have some good points and I’ve always found it preferable to the liberalism of George W. Bush and his support for the Democratic Peace Theory.

Actually, in international affairs, it’s called invading another country.

161 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 4:57:26pm

re: #160 Belafon

Actually, in international affairs, it’s called invading another country.

That’s the act. We’re talking about excuses/motivations.

162 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 4:57:27pm

I filled out one bracket. My heart just isn’t in it this year.

-Sad Gator

163 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 4:58:05pm

re: #153 Mattand

You know how keeps saying conservatives have no empathy?

Well, you know that the world will totally end if there is not an uninterrupted supply of gold and diamonds.

Speaking of which:
Security cameras are a diamond firm’s best friend
De Beers keeps a close eye on its coveted carats. Sorters’ pants lack cuffs; pockets are sewn tight.

KIMBERLY, South Africa - Not many places in Harry Oppenheimer House are outside the range of a security camera.

There are cameras scanning the lobby. Cameras in the elevators. Cameras mounted on the ceiling of the visitors’ lounge. And dozens of cameras scan each of the seven floors where 107 sorters hunch over glittering heaps of one of the most valuable commodities on earth: Diamonds.

Harry Oppenheimer House is the main sorting facility for De Beers Consolidated Mining Inc., the world’s largest diamond producer. Eight of the 23 operating diamond mines in existence are in South Africa, and nearly every stone mined from them is sorted and graded here before leaving the country. And with something as tiny and as precious as diamonds - a gem-quality stone is worth thousands of times more per ounce than gold - the security measures go far beyond cameras.

Sorting diamonds is not a line of work for someone made nervous by close supervision.

The women sorters dress conservatively and plainly - no lace allowed. The men wear maroon sweaters and gray flannel trousers. The trousers have no cuffs, and the pockets of both men’s and women’s clothes are stitched up so that diamonds can’t stray into the garments. A sign at the exit of each sorting area reminds workers: “Check your clothing.”

snip

About 10 million carats of diamonds go through Harry Oppenheimer House each year - about two tons of stones (a carat is 200 milligrams). De Beers knows to the thousandth of a carat what goes in and what goes out: Sorters can’t go home for the day if the weight of their diamonds is off.

Sorters used to work with scales, but De Beers discovered that some light-fingered employees were substituting poor-quality stones for precious gems of equal weight. Now only supervisors have access to scales, and they are separated by glass walls from the sorters, though they are not beyond the gaze of the security cameras.

If any questions about honesty arise, De Beers has a full-body X-ray machine on the first floor; diamonds fluoresce when irradiated, even in body cavities. De Beers also has designated a room for strip searches, said Angus Galloway, the general manager of the sorting facility.

There’s more.

I never understood the fascination with diamonds.

164 makeitstop  Mar 18, 2015 4:58:29pm

re: #155 Justanotherhuman

The cops are saying that the attack in Sweden was “gang-related”:

The alarm came to the police at 22:23.

- The shooting took place inside a restaurant on Vårväderstorget says Jenny Widén, spokesperson for the police Western Region.

- It came in two people with Kalashnikovs and started shooting, said an eyewitness who sat at a table inside the restaurant, according to Aftonbladet.

- It is clear that this is not common crime, it’s serious crime, and indications are that it is gang-related, says Gothenburg police spokesman Ulla Brehm.

svt.se

Sweden has gangs? Who knew?

165 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 18, 2015 5:00:40pm

re: #164 makeitstop

Sweden has gangs?

Ya, shurr!

166 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 5:01:40pm

re: #159 Mattand

Socha Faal. Such a Fail.

rationalwiki.org

167 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 5:02:03pm

re: #164 makeitstop

Sweden has gangs? Who knew?

Interesting. en.wikipedia.org

168 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 5:02:12pm

re: #165 Blind Frog Belly White

Ya, shurr!

The moose are terrifying when they band together.

169 The Dude Abides  Mar 18, 2015 5:02:37pm

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

These birds are nihilists. There’s nothing to be afraid of.

Hahaha, I edited my original quote.

170 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 18, 2015 5:07:47pm

re: #158 Justanotherhuman

I dunno. I have some hope for Israel. They can’t all be as bitter and ugly as he is. And I think many are tired of the conflict and want peaceful resolutions.

Take any rational people, put them in a small place surrounded by enemies and throw ordnance at them for decades. Add in dealing with bad actors when trying to find peace. Eventually, hope for any kind of peaceful arrangement disintegrates.

I think they may be more weary of lost hope than they are of continuing conflict.

171 De Kolta Chair  Mar 18, 2015 5:08:23pm
Charleston, SC, just moments after zero hour
172 Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2015 5:08:47pm

re: #149 The Mother Of All Pies

He won with 24% of the vote, which means 75% of the voters did not vote for him.

That doesn’t speak badly of the Israeli people, but it speaks volumes about their political process. It looks like the will of the Italian people is better represented by their government(s) than that of the average citizen of Israel.

173 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 5:08:55pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, you know that the world will totally end if there is not an uninterrupted supply of gold and diamonds.

I never understood the fascination with diamonds.

I like shiny things as much as the next girl. But I am fine with fake shiny things. I see no point in $1000 rings and the like. Give me a good solid silver or platinum (I don’t like gold) setting with fake ass shiny stuff. As long as it doesn’t turn my finger or neck green, it’s all good.

174 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 18, 2015 5:09:21pm

re: #171 De Kolta Chair

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Finally, enough time and no interruptions!

*CRUNCH!!*

175 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 18, 2015 5:10:23pm

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

Take any rational people, put them in a small place surrounded by enemies and throw ordnance at them for decades. Add in dealing with bad actors when trying to find peace. Eventually, hope for any kind of peaceful arrangement disintegrates.

I think they may be more weary of lost hope than they are of continuing conflict.

Note also that this also applies to the Palestinians.

176 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 18, 2015 5:12:53pm

re: #171 De Kolta Chair

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Time Enough at Last, by Lyn Venable

177 Justanotherhuman  Mar 18, 2015 5:13:56pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm…

178 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 5:14:54pm

re: #177 Justanotherhuman

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm…

Ciao ciao ciao for now now now.

179 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:15:59pm

re: #153 Mattand

You know how everyone keeps saying conservatives have no empathy?

I mean as I said when I downdinged that, I never downding. I think I can legitimately count on my hands the number of times I’ve d-ded my time here at LGF but that legitimately pissed me off because he pretty much illustrated what I said about Reagan’s FP policy was true that it was not about democracy and opposing totalitarianism. I understand geopolitics quite well having taken course work in international relations and being a student of history but at the same time, geopolitics should never be an excuse and that post came off to me as an excuse. Not to mention the part about the diamond mines and gold.

180 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 5:16:39pm
181 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:19:06pm

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

Take any rational people, put them in a small place surrounded by enemies and throw ordnance at them for decades. Add in dealing with bad actors when trying to find peace. Eventually, hope for any kind of peaceful arrangement disintegrates.

I think they may be more weary of lost hope than they are of continuing conflict.

It’s a tough situation for all involved. My real problem with Bibi honestly is the complete lack of respect he shows to the leader of a country not to mention man who has been a great ally to his country. Plus it’s clear to me that Bibi loves catering to American wingnuts for support which I think is disgusting given the fact that those people only really care about Israel to satisfy their doomsday prophecies and just a generation or so ago were blaming liberalism/socialism/Marxism on Jews. Bibi ignores the Western right wing’s anti-semitic history at his own peril.

182 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:19:31pm

re: #180 #FergusonFireside

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Words can’t express how much this angers me.

183 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 5:20:03pm

More important things aside, 21 as the legal age for drinking is an absolute caveman law.

184 lawhawk  Mar 18, 2015 5:20:40pm

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

Take any rational people, put them in a small place surrounded by enemies and throw ordnance at them for decades. Add in dealing with bad actors when trying to find peace. Eventually, hope for any kind of peaceful arrangement disintegrates.

I think they may be more weary of lost hope than they are of continuing conflict.

Begin and Sadat proved that peace was possible despite full-on wars. Rabin and King Hussein proved that was possible again decades later.

You need the right leaders at the right time in history to make peace happen.

Right now, Israel lacks that leadership - I just don’t see Netanyahu as being that leader. But he’s not alone. Abbas isn’t that leader either. Nor is anyone else in the region.

185 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:20:50pm

re: #183 Nyet

More important things aside, 21 as the legal age for drinking is an absolute caveman law.

I think the US is the only Western country with such a prohibition. It’s ridiculous and I think leads to more irresponsible drinking.

186 The War TARDIS  Mar 18, 2015 5:21:19pm

re: #113 Kragar

Between this, and Ms.Marvel, I am really beginning to like Marvel.

This is really cool.

187 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:21:39pm

re: #184 lawhawk

Begin and Sadat proved that peace was possible despite full-on wars. Rabin and King Hussein proved that was possible again decades later.

You need the right leaders at the right time in history to make peace happen.

Right now, Israel lacks that leadership - I just don’t see Netanyahu as being that leader. But he’s not alone. Abbas isn’t that leader either. Nor is anyone else in the region.

One of my earliest memories of anything involving Israel was Rabin’s murder. A sad day. He truly was an admirable man.

188 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 5:22:12pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

It’s beyond ridiculous. You’re 18, you can kill or die (in the military), you can make hardcore porn but you can’t drink. “Idiocy” doesn’t even begin to describe it.

189 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 5:22:42pm

re: #164 makeitstop

Sweden has gangs? Who knew?

those damned Vikings…

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190 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:23:15pm

re: #188 Nyet

It’s beyond ridiculous. You’re 18, you can kill or die (in the military), you can make hardcore porn but you can’t drink. “Idiocy” doesn’t even begin to describe it.

I know right? It may sound stupid and even simplistic but if you can fight and die for your country, you should be able to have a drink.

191 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:24:16pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

those damned Vikings…

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Image: swedish%20chef.jpg
He’s going to make you an offer you can’t comprehend.

192 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 5:25:04pm

re: #188 Nyet

It’s beyond ridiculous. You’re 18, you can kill or die (in the military), you can make hardcore porn but you can’t drink. “Idiocy” doesn’t even begin to describe it.

We said that back in the 60s during Vietnam.

193 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 5:26:10pm

re: #180 #FergusonFireside

That young man is lucky he wasn’t shot dead.

To be violently arrested for possessing a fake ID is appalling. Man, when I was in school….? Holee. Shit. Half of us would still be in prison if this is what happens when you have a fake ID.

Oh the long, strange trips I’ve taken.

194 CuriousLurker  Mar 18, 2015 5:26:44pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

The geo-politics in that case outweighed the moral considerations. South Africa’s gold, diamonds and strategic position were too important to lose access to.

Those were HUMAN BEINGS enduring abject poverty, suffering and terror under apartheid and you’re dismissing them as if they were nothing, “collateral damage”. Are you a Christian? Is that what Jesus taught you? I don’t think so.

Go over to Amazon and buy yourself a copy of Kaffir Boy, then come back and tell me what’s effing important. Better yet, here’s are some words from the author himself (emphasis added):

Much has been written and spoken about the politics of apartheid: the forced removals of black communities from their ancestral lands, the Influx Control and Pass laws that mandate where blacks can live, work, raise families, be buried; the migrant labour system that forces black men to live away from their families eleven months out of a year; the breaking up of black families in the ghettos as the authorities seek to create a so-called white South Africa; the brutal suppression of the black majority as it agitates for equal rights. But what does it all mean in human terms?

When I was growing up in Alexandra it meant hate, bitterness, hunger, pain, terror, violence, fear, dashed hopes and dreams. Today it still means the same for millions of black children who are trapped in the ghettos of South Africa, in a lingering nightmare of a racial system that in many respects resembles Nazism. In the ghettos black children fight for survival from the moment they are born. They take to hating and fearing the police, soldiers and authorities as a baby takes to its mother’s breast.

In my childhood these enforcers of white prerogatives and whims represented a sinister force capable of crushing me at will; of making my parents flee in the dead of night to escape arrest under the Pass laws; of marching them naked out of bed because they did not have the permit allowing them to live as husband and wife under the same roof. They turned my father — by repeatedly arresting him and denying him the right to earn a living in a way that gave him dignity — into such a bitter man that, as he fiercely but in vain resisted the emasculation, he hurt those he loved the most.

books.google.com

Here he explains why at age 10 he tried to commit suicide:

…

Some of the things you say are truly disgusting & inhumane in the extreme.

All Adam’s race are members of one frame;
Since all, at first, from the same essence came.
If thou feel’st not for others’ misery,
A son of Adam is no name for thee.

—Sadi of Shiraz, The Golestan

195 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 5:27:18pm

re: #193 WhatEVs

That young man is lucky he wasn’t shot dead.

To be violently arrested for possessing a fake ID is appalling. Man, when I was in school….? Holee. Shit. Half of us would still be in prison if this is what happens when you have a fake ID.

Oh the long, strange trips I’ve taken.

He wasn’t even charged with the fake id thing.

196 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 5:27:31pm

Back in the 60s, 18-year-olds not only couldn’t drink, they couldn’t even vote.
But they sure could go straight from high school graduation to being cannon fodder.

197 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 18, 2015 5:27:33pm

re: #184 lawhawk

Begin and Sadat proved that peace was possible despite full-on wars. Rabin and King Hussein proved that was possible again decades later.

You need the right leaders at the right time in history to make peace happen.

Right now, Israel lacks that leadership - I just don’t see Netanyahu as being that leader. But he’s not alone. Abbas isn’t that leader either. Nor is anyone else in the region.

Therein lies the problem. People, even a majority of people, wanting peace won’t do it in this situation. It takes a leader who can galvanize that desire, and who can keep at it when rockets or bombs fly, and it takes another leader on the other side to do the same - at the same time!

But every time it fails, hope dies a little more.

198 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:28:25pm

It was for a fake fucking ID? Good fucking grief.

199 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 18, 2015 5:29:25pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

It was for a fake fucking ID? Good fucking grief.

Hey, he might have used it to vote with.
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200 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 18, 2015 5:30:49pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

those damned Vikings…

////

I think of Norwegians and Danes as Vikings, Swedes as Varangians.

201 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:31:33pm

re: #194 CuriousLurker

Those were HUMAN BEINGS enduring abject poverty, suffering and terror under apartheid and you’re dismissing them as if they were nothing, “collateral damage”. Are you a Christian? Is that what Jesus taught you? I don’t think so.

Go over to Amazon and buy yourself a copy of Kaffir Boy, then come back and tell me what’s effing important. Better yet, here’s are some words from the author himself:

Here he explains why at age 10 he tried to commit suicide:

[Embedded content]

Some of the things you say are truly disgusting & inhumane in the extreme.

I regret that I have only one upding for this. Seriously DF, try looking at issues from the other person’s shoes. Try imagining yourself as a black South African seeing Ronald Reagan speak on television talk about the concepts of freedom and then see him helping fund the regime that treated you, your friends, and family like they were subhuman simply because of their race? It’s easy to just view things from an American centric pov but we have to do better than that. One reason why I’m so sensitive to poverty and bigotry is because I know if as a person with Asperger’s Syndrome that if I weren’t white, American, and middle class that my life would be a hell of a lot tougher. I want others to have the same chances I’ve had and I don’t feel they should be punished because they were born into the “wrong” situation.

202 Blizard  Mar 18, 2015 6:04:12pm

re: #188 Nyet

Not sure if it holds true now but when I backpacked through EU in the 90s, most of the drinking ages were 16 in Belgium, CH, Netherlands, and so on. But the driving age was 18. It made perfect sense to me- first you learned how to drink, and then you learned how to drive. But going to the bars was weird as a 20-something as there were kiddies with rosy cheeks getting their legal buzz on all around me. And probably better able to control their liquor than me, too.

203 palomino  Mar 18, 2015 6:20:31pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

If the Soviet Union had not been so hostile to the United States, Reagan would not have been elected. So your counter-factual runs afoul of a cardinal group of facts, those being the reasons Ronald Reagan was elected president.

Go back and read about the 1980 election. Carter didn’t lose because the public thought he was too soft on the USSR. He lost because the economy sucked, and the Iran hostage crisis was an albatross around his neck he never could escape.

204 palomino  Mar 18, 2015 6:34:32pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

The geo-politics in that case outweighed the moral considerations. South Africa’s gold, diamonds and strategic position were too important to lose access to.

Spoken just like a true sociopath. Seriously, who the fuck are you to dismiss the “moral considerations” so casually? Especially when the moral questions were involved the atrocity of apartheid. Could you similarly rationalize Jim Crow?

The notion that we had to do this is bullshit. Many other western nations divested in protest for the South African crimes against humanity, and they didn’t suffer this imaginary geo-political disaster you imagine would have happened to us.

You’ve jumped the shark with this one, with your knee-jerk defense of human rights violations. You should be ashamed.

205 bratwurst  Mar 18, 2015 7:05:56pm

re: #27 Dark_Falcon

The geo-politics in that case outweighed the moral considerations. South Africa’s gold, diamonds and strategic position were too important to lose access to.

In the last 4 days you have expressed satisfaction with the idea of millions of ordinary Greek citizens suffering, admitted you are ok with Iran getting nukes if it provides the political outcome you want in the US, and now totally excused American support for the most racist ideology of your lifetime in the name of access to diamonds and gold.

What. The. Fuck?

206 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 7:07:08pm

re: #205 bratwurst

In the last 4 days you have expressed satisfaction with the idea of millions of ordinary Greek citizens suffering, admitted you are ok with Iran getting nukes if it provides the political outcome you want in the US, and now totally excused American support for the most racist ideology of your lifetime in the name of access to diamonds and gold.

What. The. Fuck?

It’s devastatingly sad that anyone can think that, let alone my fellow countrymen.

207 Bubblehead II  Mar 18, 2015 7:08:08pm

I came, I saw,

Night Lizards

208 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 18, 2015 8:27:00pm

re: #98 Feline Fearless Leader

And wasn’t “viking” more of a pastime than an ethnic group?

More an occupation. Not every Scandinavian was a Viking, and claiming Viking ancestry is a lie, because birth, marriage and death records were not kept in Sweden (for example) until the establishment of churches long after the Viking era. On one part of my family tree, I can go back reliably to about 1400. Before that time, family history becomes murky. That would be true for anyone claiming Scandinavian ancestry — unless they happened to be descendants of royalty.

If Chuckles is of Swedish ancestry, those people went a-vikingr east into Rus (now Russia), and got nowhere close to Ireland. The Danes and the Norwegians went west, first as marauders and explorers, then as merchants and colonists. They sailed as far as the Levant, and of course to Iceland, Greenland and North America.

The real “Viking” invasion came in the 19th century, when all those Scandinavians flocked to America and Canada as immigrants.

209 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 18, 2015 8:29:19pm

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

More an occupation. Not every Scandinavian was a Viking, and claiming Viking ancestry is a lie, because birth, marriage and death records were not kept in Sweden (for example) until the establishment of churches long after the Viking era. On one part of my family tree, I can go back reliably to about 1400. Before that time, family history becomes murky. That would be true for anyone claiming Scandinavian ancestry — unless they happened to be descendants of royalty.

If Chuckles is of Swedish ancestry, those people went a-vikingr east into Rus (now Russia), and got nowhere close to Ireland. The Danes and the Norwegians went west, first as marauders and explorers, then as merchants and colonists. They sailed as far as the Levant, and of course to Iceland, Greenland and North America.

The real “Viking” invasion came in the 19th century, when all those Scandinavians flocked to America and Canada as immigrants.

The one thing I know about the Norwegian side of my family is that the -ing on the end of my name denotes servitude….

210 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 18, 2015 8:41:24pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, you know that the world will totally end if there is not an uninterrupted supply of gold and diamonds.

Speaking of which:
Security cameras are a diamond firm’s best friend
De Beers keeps a close eye on its coveted carats. Sorters’ pants lack cuffs; pockets are sewn tight.

snip

There’s more.

I never understood the fascination with diamonds.

Marketing. The diamond cartel has fabricated an elaborate campaign over the many years to embue diamonds with a mystique, first by convincing people diamonds are incredibly rare, then by marketing them to rich people and young couples who want their love to last forever. Diamonds are only rare because the cartel makes it so. That’s why DeBeers and other diamond producers run such tight ships. “Rogue” diamonds would depress world diamond prices, and thus the cartel’s profits. If someone managed to find a new mineral deposit rich in diamonds, the cartel would be on his back in no time.

211 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 18, 2015 8:44:12pm

re: #194 CuriousLurker

Updinged for the book referral. I’ve read it, too.

212 Pip's Squeak  Mar 18, 2015 11:01:26pm

re: #54 Nyet

” I have become Death”

Way to butcher the phrase! “I am become…” ;)

If this is meant to be from the Sanskrit, either will do.

213 KerFuFFler  Mar 19, 2015 5:36:25am

So Santorum’s people have made the video “private”. Too bad that display of ignorant insanity is unavailable now to showcase wingnut fantasies.

214 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 5:39:22am

The video is dead but you can watch it here

…

At around the 20 minute mark.

If you watch much more…you’ll likely want to blow your brains out.


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