Neo Nazi Gunman Arrested in Mesa, Ariz., Shootings That Left 1 Dead, 5 Wounded

White supremacist mass shooting in Arizona
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The 88 and rune tattoos indicate that the suspect is likely to be a neo-Nazi or other white supremacist gang member.

UPDATE at 3/18/15 5:09:15 pm by Thanos

SPLC and others confirm affiliation with Hammerskins; other mass shooters like the Sikh Temple shooter have come from that group as well.

Ryan Giroux

The gunman who cut a bloody swath through a Phoenix suburb Wednesday morning, shooting six people in Mesa, Ariz., has been arrested, city officials announced.

Police did not identify the suspect, but an Arizona law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation told the Los Angeles Times the man was 41-year-old Ryan Giroux.

The official requested anonymity because he or she was not authorized to discuss the case. Giroux has a lengthy criminal history that includes convictions for assault in Arizona and Los Angeles County, court records show.

More: Gunman Arrested in Mesa, Ariz., Shootings That Left 1 Dead, 5 Wounded

Also See
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521 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Mar 18, 2015 5:33:06pm
2 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:34:49pm

Bet good money they’ll be able to get this guy not only alive but with not much bodily damage. Sorry know that distracts from the fact this guy killed someone but damn it if the police can get murderers alive, there’s no reason they can’t get African-Americans who at the very most may have been petty crooks.

3 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 5:35:07pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Oh, they did arrest him alive already.

4 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:35:57pm

re: #3 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Oh, they did arrest him alive already.

Ah well that proves my point.

5 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 5:36:09pm

Neo-Nazis should not be able to own guns.

If some amendment says otherwise, it’s wrong.

6 Thanos  Mar 18, 2015 5:41:00pm

Hammerskins is also where the Sikh temple shooter came from, they are notoriously violent.

7 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:41:08pm

re: #5 Nyet

Neo-Nazis should not be able to own guns.

If some amendment says otherwise, it’s wrong.

No argument with that but I wonder how you do that since not every Neo-Nazi will pun intended be wearing his Nazi love on his sleeve.

8 Thanos  Mar 18, 2015 5:41:55pm

The Heavy link has a ton of other info on the suspect:
heavy.com

9 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 5:42:39pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

No argument with that but I wonder how you do that since not every Neo-Nazi will pun intended be wearing his Nazi love on his sleeve.

If they do, goodbye guns.

10 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:42:53pm

re: #9 Nyet

If they do, goodbye guns.

Absolutely.

11 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 5:43:29pm

Should have written, “farewell to arms”. ;)

12 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 5:44:14pm

splcenter.org
First two are in Maricopa County.

The other two are in Pima County:

splcenter.org

splcenter.org

13 Teukka  Mar 18, 2015 5:44:58pm

Update on the mass shooting in Gothenburg, Sweden: Death toll is climbing. :(
Boy are the cops gonna turn every stone to find the idiots that did this.

14 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:45:15pm

I hate Arizona Nazis. And where’s Aldo the Apatche to give this guy a good old scalping?

15 Iwouldprefernotto  Mar 18, 2015 5:46:01pm

But Nazis are leftists….

16 Egregious Philbin  Mar 18, 2015 5:46:34pm

I thought skinhead right away this morning. Mesa has a lot of these idiots, reminds me of JT Ready, an infamous Nazi idiot out of Mesa who killed a bunch of folk before killing himself about a year and a half ago. I used to work in Mesa, ugly ugly city.

17 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:47:31pm

re: #16 Egregious Philbin

I thought skinhead right away this morning. Mesa has a lot of these idiots, reminds me of JT Ready, an infamous Nazi idiot out of Mesa who killed a bunch of folk before killing himself about a year and a half ago. I used to work in Mesa, ugly ugly city.

Ready would be the same guy I believe was connected to the state senate GOP majority leader there, Pearce who ended being even too wingnutty for even Arizona’s GOP.

18 Thanos  Mar 18, 2015 5:47:33pm

re: #13 Teukka

Here’s a link I found to that, implies gang related shooting? They have gangs in Sweden? express.co.uk

19 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 5:48:10pm

re: #15 Iwouldprefernotto

But Nazis are leftists….

Nazis are communists!
Video

20 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 5:48:43pm

re: #18 Thanos

They have gangs in Sweden?

Why wouldn’t they?

21 Teukka  Mar 18, 2015 5:48:44pm

re: #18 Thanos

Here’s a link I found to that, implies gang related shooting? They have gangs in Sweden? express.co.uk

Yeah. Biker gangs and other organized crime outfits.

22 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:49:10pm

re: #19 Nyet

Nazis are communists!
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Go pennies, help the puny children who need you.

23 prairiefire  Mar 18, 2015 5:49:54pm

Upside down Celtic cross.?

24 Thanos  Mar 18, 2015 5:50:10pm

re: #20 Nyet

It was a jest, I’ve been watching “Lillehammer”…

25 Timothy Watson  Mar 18, 2015 5:51:18pm

re: #18 Thanos

Here’s a link I found to that, implies gang related shooting? They have gangs in Sweden? express.co.uk

Yeah, if you read some of the anti-immigrant stuff that comes out of the Nordic countries, according to the racists, all the immigrants are in gangs.

26 Thanos  Mar 18, 2015 5:51:27pm

Here’s the Phoenix Times piece on the arrest, nothing from Stephen Lemmons there on it yet:
blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com

27 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 5:51:37pm

re: #23 prairiefire

Upside down Celtic cross.?

Looks like Thor’s hammer to me.

28 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:52:04pm

re: #23 prairiefire

Upside down Celtic cross.?

Yeah weird. The Celtic cross and this was actually part of why I didn’t get it as a tattoo is heavily used by Neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups. I certainly proud of my Irish heritage but at the same time, I’m not a white supremacist fuckwad.

29 Thanos  Mar 18, 2015 5:52:19pm

re: #25 Timothy Watson

I was guessing football hooligan / gangs before I went looking btw.

30 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 18, 2015 5:54:06pm

re: #23 prairiefire

Upside down Celtic cross.?

Thor’s hammer. Norse neo-paganism which is heavily infiltrated by these kinds of people.

31 Egregious Philbin  Mar 18, 2015 5:54:36pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

Ready would be the same guy I believe was connected to the state senate GOP majority leader there, Pearce who ended being even too wingnutty for even Arizona’s GOP.

Yes, Ready and Russell Pearce were close friends, Pearce even sponsored Ready for Bishop status in the LDS church. Pure vermin. Mesa is just an awful little hovel of a city.

32 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 5:54:54pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Yeah weird. The Celtic cross and this was actually part of why I didn’t get it as a tattoo is heavily used by Neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups. I certainly proud of my Irish heritage but at the same time, I’m not a white supremacist fuckwad.

Stole it from the Irish…

33 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 5:55:21pm

re: #18 Thanos

Here’s a link I found to that, implies gang related shooting? They have gangs in Sweden? express.co.uk

Hubby just reminded me of The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo and the motorcycle gang from that book. I forgot about that.

34 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:56:36pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Stole it from the Irish…

Yet another reason to hate the fucking Neo-Nazis. Celtic crosses are quite beautiful symbols.

35 Drive By Commenter  Mar 18, 2015 5:57:00pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Stole it from the Irish…

Why not. Every other thing the Irish owned was stolen.

36 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:57:17pm

re: #31 Egregious Philbin

Yes, Ready and Russell Pearce were close friends, Pearce even sponsored Ready for Bishop status in the LDS church. Pure vermin. Mesa is just an awful little hovel of a city.

That’s right. I had forgotten that Pearce had played a big role in helping his “casual acquaintance” I think he called him convert to LDS.

37 darthstar  Mar 18, 2015 5:57:43pm

Doesn’t look like he’ll be anyone’s best man at a wedding anytime soon.

38 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 5:58:51pm

re: #37 darthstar

Doesn’t look like he’ll be anyone’s best man at a wedding anytime soon.

We now pronounce you Adolf and Eva.

39 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 5:59:09pm

re: #37 darthstar

Doesn’t look like he’ll be anyone’s best man at a wedding anytime soon.

Dude couldn’t be the best man at a Worst Man’s contest.

40 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 6:00:23pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

We now pronounce you Adolf and Eva.

How convenient, and they already have the guns.

41 Timothy Watson  Mar 18, 2015 6:01:35pm

How long until Chuckles claims the whole thing is a hoax? He probably likes the murderer since Chuckles thinks he went reaving raiding as a Viking in a previous life.

42 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 18, 2015 6:01:50pm

what is that word tattooed on his neck? “wanted”?

43 Drive By Commenter  Mar 18, 2015 6:01:58pm

Knuckleheads like that usually draw looks and always start screaming “WTF you looking at?”
2 grand of bad ink?

44 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 6:03:34pm

re: #42 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

what is that word tattooed on his neck? “wanted”?

“Fuckwad” in German.

45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 18, 2015 6:03:38pm

if the regular web is so crazy, how crazy is the dark web?

46 Thanos  Mar 18, 2015 6:03:43pm

re: #42 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

I don’t know, I couldn’t figure it out.

47 Drive By Commenter  Mar 18, 2015 6:05:05pm

re: #44 Nyet

“Fuckwad” in German.

CRETIN

48 Thanos  Mar 18, 2015 6:05:38pm

Then again maybe it’s “Sphincter”

49 Nyet  Mar 18, 2015 6:08:40pm

re: #42 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

what is that word tattooed on his neck? “wanted”?

WHY, OBAMA OF COURSE!

50 Dark_Falcon  Mar 18, 2015 6:09:30pm

Three mass shootings in one day, Malmo, Mesa, and Tunis. At least two appear to be totalitarian-inspired (Neo-Nazi in Mesa and Daesh in Tunis), and the 3rd a Chicago-grade piece of gang-warfare. Not a good day.

Reminder: I’m from Chicago, and white gangs have wrecked havoc of Malmo’s level just as black gangs have. So with me its not racial, just a note that Europe has seldom seen gang warfare on the level of Chicago’s worst.

51 The War TARDIS  Mar 18, 2015 6:10:07pm

OT, but here is the daily update.

Hungary ended up giving independence to Bosnia and Croatia, which I quickly absorbed.

The war with Spain ended nasty. I didn’t get territories, but they were forced to leave Naples, except for Palermo. They also gave independence to 3 nations in Algeria, which I will absorb one by one. I will have to fight them again, but I will have a much better navy.

Also, Russia is becoming an issue. Because of how angry I am with the Russians right now, I aim to completely eliminate them in the game.

Edit: Spanish were able to push back, but only once I had occupied Madrid. 45k was too few soldiers. Next time, it will be 75k.

52 Dark_Falcon  Mar 18, 2015 6:10:38pm

re: #48 Thanos

Then again maybe it’s “Sphincter”

It’s “Kick my ass, please” in Russian.

53 darthstar  Mar 18, 2015 6:11:27pm
54 Thanos  Mar 18, 2015 6:11:45pm

Have to take a run get the dogs out while we have a pause in the rain.

55 The War TARDIS  Mar 18, 2015 6:12:12pm

re: #51 The War TARDIS

Also, the Mughals are apparently Iran.

Timurids+Delhi= Mughal Empire

56 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 6:12:27pm

re: #51 The War TARDIS

OT, but here is the daily update.

Embedded Image

Hungary ended up giving independence to Bosnia and Croatia, which I quickly absorbed.

The war with Spain ended nasty. I didn’t get territories, but they were forced to leave Naples, except for Palermo. They also gave independence to 3 nations in Algeria, which I will absorb one by one. I will have to fight them again, but I will have a much better navy.

Also, Russia is becoming an issue. Because of how angry I am with the Russians right now, I aim to completely eliminate them in the game.

Curious but can you get this game off of Steam or something like that? My kid brother loves strategy games like this.

57 darthstar  Mar 18, 2015 6:12:34pm

re: #55 The War TARDIS

Also, the Mughals are apparently Iran.

Timurids+Delhi= Mughal Empire

Muggles?

58 The War TARDIS  Mar 18, 2015 6:12:41pm

re: #53 darthstar

Somewhere, Sherman is wondering why he couldn’t do that.

59 makeitstop  Mar 18, 2015 6:14:10pm

re: #20 Nyet

Why wouldn’t they?

I’d just never given the possibility any thought. Never really heard anything about Swedish gangs.

But where there’s youth, there’s going to be gangs, I guess.

60 The War TARDIS  Mar 18, 2015 6:14:37pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

Yep, Steam.

re: #57 darthstar

These guys.

They are geographically displaced by alot. Probably because I am allies with Baluchistan and Gujarat. They are big and powerful in their own right.

61 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 6:15:06pm

re: #60 The War TARDIS

Yep, Steam.

These guys.

They are geographically displaced by alot. Probably because I am allies with Baluchistan and Gujarat. They are big and powerful in their own right.

Cool, what’s the game name again?

62 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 6:15:24pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

Curious but can you get this game off of Steam or something like that? My kid brother loves strategy games like this.

The game is Europa Universalis IV, since that would be helpful for finding it on Steam.

63 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 6:16:09pm

re: #62 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The game is Europa Universalis IV, since that would be helpful for finding it on Steam.

Thanks. Gonna recommend it to him. For all I know he probably has it already.

64 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 6:16:45pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Thanks. Gonna recommend it to him. For all I know he probably has it already.

The music is great. I didn’t necessarily find the gameplay to be my cup of tea, but the soundtrack has entered the rotation for play around the house.

65 Dark_Falcon  Mar 18, 2015 6:17:01pm

re: #51 The War TARDIS

Good, you’re here. I’d been wanting to give you this link:

spioenkop.blogspot.com

The 5 stories from Libya contain details on weapons and aircraft used by the
Libyan National Army and Libyan Air Force. The oldest one you already know about, but the others are stuff you’ll find interesting.

Here’s a photo of 4 LNA helos. The Hinds are the Mi-24P versions with two-barreled 30mm cannons:

66 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 6:17:11pm

re: #59 makeitstop

I’d just never given the possibility any thought. Never really heard anything about Swedish gangs.

But where there’s youth, there’s going to be gangs, I guess.

and rap music…

67 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 6:17:22pm

re: #64 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The music is great. I didn’t necessarily find the gameplay to be my cup of tea, but the soundtrack has entered the rotation for play around the house.

Classical music I take it? I played a little Hearts of Iron back in the day and I remember it having a great soundtrack.

68 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 6:18:03pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

and rap music…

We were listening to Irish rap last night after listening to some Irish folk music.

69 Drive By Commenter  Mar 18, 2015 6:21:17pm

Uptown Funk Treadmill Dance Routine

I think he’s got it…..

70 The War TARDIS  Mar 18, 2015 6:22:55pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

It should also be noted, of the three Turkic Gunpowder Empires (Ottomans, Safavids, Mughals), the Mughals were the one who had issues with Religious Tolerance the most.

Iran is the Time Lord of nations, able to adapt over time. And the Ottomans got to where they were by being relatively open.

The Mughals were like that for a time, but Aurangzeb was intolerant to a stupid extent.

71 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 18, 2015 6:23:21pm

If only this a-hole was j-walking-while-black in Ferguson.

72 darthstar  Mar 18, 2015 6:23:23pm

Sucks to be a bitcoin dependent drug dealer.

Over the past weekend, the massive anonymous market known as Evolution halted withdrawals of bitcoin from its website, telling users that it was dealing with technical difficulties. Then on Tuesday evening, both its market and user forum went offline, with no opportunity for drug buyers and sellers to pull out the funds they had stored in their Evolution accounts. The result has been a wave of panic that’s shaken the online black market economy as much as any of the law enforcement drug busts of the last two years.

73 Charles Johnson  Mar 18, 2015 6:23:26pm
74 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 6:23:42pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Classical music I take it? I played a little Hearts of Iron back in the day and I remember it having a great soundtrack.

…

75 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 6:24:26pm

re: #74 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Cool thanks.

76 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 6:25:06pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

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That’s what I’ve been hearing as well. Disappointing to see that worked. He’s going to be trending on thin ice though.

77 The War TARDIS  Mar 18, 2015 6:25:32pm

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

Good for Egypt and Libya.

I will criticize the US Government for not supporting the legitimate Government in Tobruk. The MB government is allowing fanatics to go hog wild, and they are supremely incompetent.

They DAESH nuts need to be put down, the MB government made to stand down. Even if that means hitting Misrata.

78 BlueSpotinAL  Mar 18, 2015 6:26:11pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

That’s right. I had forgotten that Pearce had played a big role in helping his “casual acquaintance” I think he called him convert to LDS.

You sure Pearce did not get his acronyms mixed up, meant NSDAP instead of LDS? :)

79 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 6:27:00pm

re: #69 Drive By Commenter

That was kinda awesome! Thanks!

80 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 6:27:24pm

re: #78 BlueSpotinAL

You sure Pearce did not get his acronyms mixed up, meant NSDAP instead of LDS? :)

I don’t think Ready needed Pearce’s help in converting to NSDAP. Both of them seemed to be pretty tight in that boat before their meeting.

81 The War TARDIS  Mar 18, 2015 6:27:35pm

re: #74 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I do notice that, for all the manpower the Mughals have, they have gotten fucked up by my armies that are smaller, sometimes by half.

82 Dark_Falcon  Mar 18, 2015 6:29:08pm

re: #70 The War TARDIS

It should also be noted, of the three Turkic Gunpowder Empires (Ottomans, Safavids, Mughals), the Mughals were the one who had issues with Religious Tolerance the most.

Iran is the Time Lord of nations, able to adapt over time. And the Ottomans got to where they were by being relatively open.

The Mughals were like that for a time, but Aurangzeb was intolerant to a stupid extent.

Aurangzeb was a zealot and he was also too ambitious by half. Unlike previous Mughal rulers he had to conquer all the land in India he could seize, regardless of the costs or if his empire could effectively garrison its holdings. The result was Hindu revolts beginning in Aurangzeb’s old age that rapidly crippled the Mughal empire.

That Aurangzeb lived as long as he did didn’t help either. He lived into his late 70’s, and his eldest sons were in their 50’s when he died, meaning that his successor was comparatively weak and short-reigning.

83 LastYearsMan  Mar 18, 2015 6:31:00pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

I think I’m losing my ability to distinguish between real history and Game of Thrones. Luckily, it’s all fascinating.

84 The War TARDIS  Mar 18, 2015 6:34:25pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

The story through history, a powerful long lived king resulting in weaker successors.

I would think the best example was Ramesses II.

His following Pharaohs would have harder and harder times controlling their courts, and fighting back against the Sea Peoples effectively crippled Egypt.

Punchline being that we don’t even know who the Sea Peoples are.

I prefer the name the Greeks gave Ramesses II, Ozymandias.

85 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 6:36:38pm
86 Charles Johnson  Mar 18, 2015 6:39:03pm
87 BlueGrl21  Mar 18, 2015 6:40:37pm

A work friend and I took the MBTI today…I took it a long time ago. INFP, he’s INTJ.

“So, you INFPs are supposed to be able to find good in every person and situation.”

“Yep.”

“What about serial killers?”

“Upon death, they make excellent fertilizer.”

That thought just seemed appropriate for our latest addition to the mass shooter gallery.

88 Dark_Falcon  Mar 18, 2015 6:40:43pm

re: #84 The War TARDIS

The story through history, a powerful long lived king resulting in weaker successors.

I would think the best example was Ramesses II.

His following Pharaohs would have harder and harder times controlling their courts, and fighting back against the Sea Peoples effectively crippled Egypt.

Punchline being that we don’t even know who the Sea Peoples are.

I prefer the name the Greeks gave Ramesses II, Ozymandias.

One could also put Louis XIV of France in that same category.

It is also to me the height of irony that most people know Ramesses II Greek name of Ozymandias through Percy Shelly’s famous poem. The irony comes from the fact the shortly after he wrote it the Rosetta Stone was deciphered, and the ability to translate Egyptian hieroglyphics meant that more people today know of Ramesses II than know of Percy Shelly.

89 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 18, 2015 6:41:04pm

re: #84 The War TARDIS

The story through history, a powerful long lived king resulting in weaker successors.

As an aside, this aspect makes me wonder if Prince Charles will be smart enough to step aside for Prince William once his mother shuffles on down that long road.

90 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 18, 2015 6:41:24pm

I can’t think of one good thing to ever come from a neck tat, at least in the U.S.

91 Charles Johnson  Mar 18, 2015 6:42:20pm

...

92 Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2015 6:42:28pm

re: #72 darthstar

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Sucks to be a bitcoin dependent drug dealer.

If you can’t trust a drug emporium to hold your imaginary money, then what can you trust?

93 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 18, 2015 6:42:49pm

re: #83 LastYearsMan

I think I’m losing my ability to distinguish between real history and Game of Thrones. Luckily, it’s all fascinating.

game of thrones: winter is coming

real history: winter is boring

94 Charles Johnson  Mar 18, 2015 6:43:27pm

Twitter’s API is apparently having problems today. Let’s try that embedded tweet again…

95 makeitstop  Mar 18, 2015 6:43:42pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

We were listening to Irish rap last night after listening to some Irish folk music.

I don’t remember where I got it, but I’ve got a compilation CD of hip hop from Senegal. A lot of Western influence, but there’s a very cool rhytymic twist to it.

96 Charles Johnson  Mar 18, 2015 6:43:55pm

Mmkay. Still not working.

97 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 6:43:58pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Twitter’s API is apparently having problems today. Let’s try that embedded tweet again…

Did the same thing to me with the Sad Cat tweet

98 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 6:44:17pm

Ya’ll, I’m not going to shut up about this stuff.

99 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 6:44:27pm

re: #90 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I can’t think of one good thing to ever come from a neck tat, at least in the U.S.

99.999% of the time I agree.

A “friend” of mine (my friend’s daughter in law) has a neck tattoo at the nape of her neck. At their wedding, everyone was commenting about “some other guy’s name’ on her neck.

It was her brother’s name and the date he died.

100 Dark_Falcon  Mar 18, 2015 6:44:37pm

BBL

101 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 6:44:42pm
102 Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2015 6:44:50pm

re: #90 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I can’t think of one good thing to ever come from a neck tat, at least in the U.S.

“Cut Along Dotted Line”

103 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 18, 2015 6:45:38pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Mmkay. Still not working.

Edit your tweet and repaste the tweet link.
Same thing just happened again to me.

104 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 6:46:31pm

re: #99 WhatEVs

99.999% of the time I agree.

A “friend” of mine (my friend’s daughter in law) has a neck tattoo at the nape of her neck. At their wedding, everyone was commenting about “some other guy’s namea’ on her neck.

It was her brother’s name and the date he died.

There’s a ton of people here in So Cal with the RIP stickers on their cars, the deceased, their birth and death dates, and a in forever memory blurb.

It’s beyond my understanding really. Take it to a tattoo? I just don’t know.

But that’s just moi.

105 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 6:46:59pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

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I didn’t think it was possible to think less of Bibi and his coalition but this seals the deal. Out right neo-nazi fascists? Anything to hold onto power eh Bibi?

106 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 6:47:37pm

re: #98 #FergusonFireside

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Ya’ll, I’m not going to shut up about this stuff.

Thugs.

107 A Cranky One  Mar 18, 2015 6:48:03pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

My cat is sad because it’s imaginary.

My dogs are happy for the same reason. ;)

108 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 6:48:06pm

re: #98 #FergusonFireside

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Ya’ll, I’m not going to shut up about this stuff.

I am not shocked at all.

I hope they sue the locals and ABC and that kid gets enough money to fund a Harvard education in full.

109 BlueGrl21  Mar 18, 2015 6:49:06pm

re: #102 Decatur Deb

“Cut Along Dotted Line”

Lol!

Neck tats serve as a “Do Not Touch” warning…much like porcupine quills.

Eyebrow tats mean, “Put me where other people are not.”

110 Belafon  Mar 18, 2015 6:51:26pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

So, Europeans are going to take care of that pesky Semite problem?

111 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 6:51:40pm

re: #104 #FergusonFireside

There’s a ton of people here in So Cal with the RIP stickers on their cars, the deceased, their birth and death dates, and a in forever memory blurb.

It’s beyond my understanding really. Take it to a tattoo? I just don’t know.

But that’s just moi.

I am with you. I don’t even like the makeshift flowers and crosses on the side of the road. I have three tattoos on my back (well hidden unless I am in a swimsuit, or…nevermind). I don’t need to share my midlife crisis with the world. :-D

112 BlueGrl21  Mar 18, 2015 6:52:26pm

re: #104 #FergusonFireside

There’s a ton of people here in So Cal with the RIP stickers on their cars, the deceased, their birth and death dates, and a in forever memory blurb.

It’s beyond my understanding really. Take it to a tattoo? I just don’t know.

But that’s just moi.

Same in Texas. I mostly see it in Hispanic families. Not sure why.

113 A Cranky One  Mar 18, 2015 6:53:18pm

Klys:

Didn’t get a chance to say thanks for posting the harp performance; so thanks!

114 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 18, 2015 6:55:48pm

re: #109 BlueGrl21

Lol!

Neck tats serve as a “Do Not Touch” warning…much like porcupine quills.

Eyebrow tats mean, “Put me where other people are not.”

“poor impulse control”

115 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 6:57:19pm

re: #112 BlueGrl21

Same in Texas. I mostly see it in Hispanic families. Not sure why.

Latinos have a really different concept of death. Whenever I go to Mexico, I bring back another Catarina doll, that go along with a day celebrating the dead (ancestors).

edited because i am stupid

116 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 18, 2015 6:57:56pm

re: #99 WhatEVs

99.999% of the time I agree.

A “friend” of mine (my friend’s daughter in law) has a neck tattoo at the nape of her neck. At their wedding, everyone was commenting about “some other guy’s name’ on her neck.

It was her brother’s name and the date he died.

Ok, I should have specified that is a front-facing neck tat. :)

117 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 18, 2015 6:59:28pm

re: #111 WhatEVs

I am with you. I don’t even like the makeshift flowers and crosses on the side of the road.

IDK, it’s kind of like a tombstone in some ways to me. I’ve always been fascinated by the roadside crosses.

118 prairiefire  Mar 18, 2015 7:00:56pm

“Game time, bitches.”. Empire finale tonight.

119 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 18, 2015 7:01:31pm

re: #117 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

IDK, it’s kind of like a tombstone in some ways to me. I’ve always been fascinated by the roadside crosses.

Ive always been fascinate by side road crossroads.

120 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 18, 2015 7:03:02pm

re: #119 Blind Frog Belly White

Ive always been fascinate by side road crossroads.

Side cross roadway?

121 A Cranky One  Mar 18, 2015 7:03:26pm

re: #93 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

game of thrones: winter is coming

real history: winter is boring

California: what’s winter?

122 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 7:03:52pm

re: #117 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

IDK, it’s kind of like a tombstone in some ways to me. I’ve always been fascinated by the roadside crosses.

Funny how different people look at things. To me they are tombstones, too. But I find it creepy. The person isn’t buried there. It always makes me…sad. I am a very empathetic person. I don’t want someone elses sadness.

123 makeitstop  Mar 18, 2015 7:04:10pm

re: #104 #FergusonFireside

There’s a ton of people here in So Cal with the RIP stickers on their cars, the deceased, their birth and death dates, and a in forever memory blurb.

It’s beyond my understanding really. Take it to a tattoo? I just don’t know.

But that’s just moi.

Here in NY, too. Lots of ‘In Remembrance’ stickers on car windows.

I don’t get it, either.

124 CuriousLurker  Mar 18, 2015 7:04:42pm

I’m going to bed now, but I wanted to drop this off for you science-y lizards. I think freetoken might like this one because he talks a lot about DNA stuff.

Direct link to the article in case the Twitter API craps out again: theverge.com

G’nite, scaly ones.

125 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 7:05:43pm

re: #124 CuriousLurker

Sweet dreams. I am going to be closely behind you…in spirit. :-D

126 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 18, 2015 7:09:31pm

re: #84 The War TARDIS

The story through history, a powerful long lived king resulting in weaker successors.

I would think the best example was Ramesses II.

His following Pharaohs would have harder and harder times controlling their courts, and fighting back against the Sea Peoples effectively crippled Egypt.

Punchline being that we don’t even know who the Sea Peoples are.

I prefer the name the Greeks gave Ramesses II, Ozymandias.

I was always told that the extremely long reign of Pepi II brought down the Old Kingdom. According to Wiki here, it might not be that cut and dried, but I think it’s arguable.

127 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 18, 2015 7:09:31pm

re: #122 WhatEVs

Funny how different people look at things. To me they are tombstones, too. But I find it creepy. The person isn’t buried there. It always makes me…sad. I am a very empathetic person. I don’t want someone elses sadness.

Sometimes, I think there’s a bit more of a message in them, like when there are several at one particular wide spot in the road. Like it’s a “Watch what you’re doing here” sign or something (like maybe the DOT should do something about this shoulder). And I always look at it like there’s a story of someone there, who was loved by somebody. It’s in public, not shut off in a corner of a cemetery.

Interesting, and yes, sad, topic.

128 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 7:10:12pm

re: #112 BlueGrl21

Same in Texas. I mostly see it in Hispanic families. Not sure why.

I love when it’s a good long 84 year old life. Love you Grandpa!

(cruel, yeah)

129 Jenner7  Mar 18, 2015 7:10:27pm
130 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 7:11:15pm

re: #118 prairiefire

“Game time, bitches.”. Empire finale tonight.

I don’t watch, to my regret (I’ll catch up) Twitter has been going OFF on it.

131 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 18, 2015 7:11:25pm

re: #112 BlueGrl21

Same in Texas. I mostly see it in Hispanic families. Not sure why.

In the part of Texas I grew up in, there were a number of African Americans who would print up t-shirts in the same manner, with a silk-screen of the deceased on it.

132 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 7:13:16pm

re: #121 A Cranky One

California: what’s winter?

I’m wearing my boots till the first day of spring. I don’t care if its 90. (just looked it up, fuck this Friday) Changing it to Easter. The ole white shoes rule & all that.

I love the winter we never seem to have anymore.

133 CleverToad  Mar 18, 2015 7:13:44pm

re: #124 CuriousLurker

Bookmarked to read in detail. Thx!

134 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 7:16:43pm

re: #129 Jenner7

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135 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 7:20:21pm

Oooh…I want this. I have several Catarina dogs. Look how cute!

La Catarina Dolls
136 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 18, 2015 7:22:30pm

France Likely to Ban Super-Skinny Models.

137 Charles Johnson  Mar 18, 2015 7:22:58pm

Wow. Cardillo is one of Chuck’s pals. That’s some seriously insane shit there.

138 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 7:24:33pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Wow. Cardillo is one of Chuck’s pals. That’s some seriously insane shit there.

I recognized the name, but decided not to venture further.

139 Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2015 7:26:32pm

re: #127 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Sometimes, I think there’s a bit more of a message in them, like when there are several at one particular wide spot in the road. Like it’s a “Watch what you’re doing here” sign or something (like maybe the DOT should do something about this shoulder). And I always look at it like there’s a story of someone there, who was loved by somebody. It’s in public, not shut off in a corner of a cemetery.

Interesting, and yes, sad, topic.

The county to the north of us is Black-majority, dirt-poor. Its roads were the worst in the tri-state area. The sheriff encouraged family crosses, and even put up a few to mark the killing field. At one time he had 51 crosses on about 40 miles of road. When that story became a national news item, the money to fix the problem ‘appeared’.

140 Timothy Watson  Mar 18, 2015 7:30:02pm

re: #130 #FergusonFireside

I don’t watch, to my regret (I’ll catch up) Twitter has been going OFF on it.

I liked Taraji Henson on Person of Interest and Boston Legal but Terrence Howard is a woman beating piece of shit, so I haven’t been able to work up the stomach to watch it.

141 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 7:30:55pm

re: #140 Timothy Watson

I liked Taraji Henson on Person of Interest and Boston Legal but Terrence Howard is a woman beating piece of shit, so I haven’t been able to work up the stomach to watch it.

You and me both. I never watched it because of him. I love Henson, too. Shame.

142 Jenner7  Mar 18, 2015 7:35:18pm

Ire: #140 Timothy Watson

Wow, I just looked him up. I had no idea.

143 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 7:39:32pm

re: #127 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Sometimes, I think there’s a bit more of a message in them, like when there are several at one particular wide spot in the road. Like it’s a “Watch what you’re doing here” sign or something (like maybe the DOT should do something about this shoulder). And I always look at it like there’s a story of someone there, who was loved by somebody. It’s in public, not shut off in a corner of a cemetery.

Interesting, and yes, sad, topic.

On the side of a road in NJ, where I grew up, there is a little terra-cotta angel holding a container for flowers. (Or at least there used to be.)

It’s a tangible reminder of a place (and a day) where a lot of lives changed. And I found that, for me, it helped (just a little) with closure. With feeling like she’s not entirely forgotten.

I don’t begrudge anyone else their closure either.

144 Timothy Watson  Mar 18, 2015 7:42:45pm

re: #81 The War TARDIS

I do notice that, for all the manpower the Mughals have, they have gotten fucked up by my armies that are smaller, sometimes by half.

If they went from the Timurid to the Mughal Empire they might be behind in the tech race, and I think they’re in a different (worse) tech group than the Ottomans.

145 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 7:44:06pm

Stupid Twitter API issues.

146 Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2015 7:52:22pm

This is the sanitized story on just 16 miles of that highway fix. That part of 431 was apparently rated the 20th most deadly road in the world.

blog.al.com

147 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 7:53:11pm

Damn, that lady who asked Santorum that nutty question is freaking insane. It’s so sad people believe all this crap. Seriously.

facebook.com

148 Jenner7  Mar 18, 2015 7:55:51pm

re: #147 WhatEVs

And she was a teacher. Frightening.

149 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 7:58:11pm

re: #148 Jenner7

And she was a teacher. Frightening.

Terrifying. It looks like the south lost again. I cannot imagine the kids. Sad doesn’t even start to cover it.

150 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 18, 2015 7:59:19pm

re: #148 Jenner7

And she was a teacher. Frightening.

“he’s a communist dictator”

i’d like to hear her definition of ‘communist’

sure to be enlightening

151 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 8:00:52pm

WOOT! My girls just cinched a spot in the final! Go Team Canada! I love curling.

And now…I am off to bed. Night all.

152 nearly-headless smith25  Mar 18, 2015 8:00:58pm

re: #148 Jenner7

And she was a teacher. Frightening.

So frightening. There is enough crazy shit in kids heads from some of their parents, that a teacher like this means trouble + trouble = Oh Shit.

153 nearly-headless smith25  Mar 18, 2015 8:06:32pm

re: #129 Jenner7

154 palomino  Mar 18, 2015 8:07:00pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

Three mass shootings in one day, Malmo, Mesa, and Tunis. At least two appear to be totalitarian-inspired (Neo-Nazi in Mesa and Daesh in Tunis), and the 3rd a Chicago-grade piece of gang-warfare. Not a good day.

Reminder: I’m from Chicago, and white gangs have wrecked havoc of Malmo’s level just as black gangs have. So with me its not racial, just a note that Europe has seldom seen gang warfare on the level of Chicago’s worst.

Says the guy who just posted a rationalization for US support of crimes against humanity committed against tens of millions of blacks in apartheid South Africa.

Is there any atrocity supported by the US govt. that you can’t find a way to justify? Certainly you wouldn’t condone Jim Crow, lynching, slavery, right? Then why justify apartheid?

155 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 18, 2015 8:13:02pm

John Cole on Santorum’s crazy lady:

Bless your heart, Virginia. Obama did not try to nuke Charleston. It was MY idea was to have a modern day Sherman rampage through every state south of the Mason/Dixon taking out every one of you gas huffing, mayonnaise sandwich eating, confederate flag waving, racist, ignorant, tea-bagging, sibling buggering backwoods inbred redneck shitheels. But I did not specifically call for nuking y’all, because, well, Austin and Athens and a few other places are still worth saving and I like peaches and citrus fruits.

156 BlueGrl21  Mar 18, 2015 8:14:31pm

re: #152 nearly-headless smith25

So frightening. There is enough crazy shit in kids heads from some of their parents, that a teacher like this means trouble + trouble = Oh Shit.

Just put her name in a Google search for the hell of it. Comments on all kinds of right-wing conspiracy articles came back. Just so you know, the government has hidden our gold reserves in the Phillipines.

She is certifiable.

157 Romantic Heretic  Mar 18, 2015 8:34:19pm

re: #72 darthstar

So, someone pulled an EVE Intergalactic Bank for real.

Had to happen.

158 Dark_Falcon  Mar 18, 2015 8:34:58pm

re: #154 palomino

Says the guy who just posted a rationalization for US support of crimes against humanity committed against tens of millions of blacks in apartheid South Africa.

Is there any atrocity supported by the US govt. that you can’t find a way to justify? Certainly you wouldn’t condone Jim Crow, lynching, slavery, right? Then why justify apartheid?

My claim was of necessity, not justification. No one in the US government truly supported South Africa’s apartheid system, but until the end of the Cold War the problem was the danger that a ANC-led government would have aligned with the Soviet Union. And given the strategic position South Africa occupies and its natural resources, a Soviet-aligned South Africa would have been unacceptable for the national security of the United States. So we continued to trade with South Africa, though not in arms or military aid (the tech transfer for the G5 howitzer being the sole exception).

I can’t claim that was morally justified, but it was what we had to do at the time. The goal was to maintain the USA’s strength as a nation, and it did not have a moral purpose. And we helped push out the National Party soon after the Berlin Wall came down. So it was an ugly, immoral, but needed thing to continue trading with South Africa during the 1970’s-1980’s. it was about power, not who was right, as was much of the Cold War. As a nation, we did evil to keep our power, power we needed to survive.

If anyone knows what a better policy would have been, given what we knew at the time and what our track record of managing revolution is, please tell me.

159 Decatur Deb  Mar 18, 2015 8:36:41pm

re: #155 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

John Cole on Santorum’s crazy lady:

Was Balloon Juice always that tight-assed and narrow-minded?

160 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 18, 2015 8:37:53pm

re: #159 Decatur Deb

Was Balloon Juice always that tight-assed and narrow-minded?

A lot of the commenters always have been for sure….

161 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 8:38:42pm

re: #153 nearly-headless smith25

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Catching up here. MHP

162 teleskiguy  Mar 18, 2015 8:39:44pm

Skied today, first time since I got back from Aspen. It was a little disheartening. The snow didn’t even get a chance to freeze last night. And it was overcast.

It’s raining now. GRRR! Though the snow level is at about 9,000 ft., so…

163 Dark_Falcon  Mar 18, 2015 8:42:01pm

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

I’m going to step away again to watch CSI - Cyber. Please reply to my comment if you want but I’d ask folks not to get too mad. Again, I hate the game we had to play in regards to South Africa back in the Bad Old Days, and its only argument in favor is that of necessity.

164 nearly-headless smith25  Mar 18, 2015 8:43:26pm

re: #161 #FergusonFireside

Catching up here. Is that Goldie?

Yep

165 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 8:43:35pm

re: #153 nearly-headless smith25

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166 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 8:45:12pm

re: #164 nearly-headless smith25

Yep

I’m thinking MHP

167 nearly-headless smith25  Mar 18, 2015 8:45:50pm

re: #166 #FergusonFireside

I’m thinking MHP

Second look says you’re right. I must be tired tonight.

168 palomino  Mar 18, 2015 8:45:54pm

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

My claim was of necessity, not justification. No one in the US government truly supported South Africa’s apartheid system, but until the end of the Cold War the problem was the danger that a ANC-led government would have aligned with the Soviet Union. And given the strategic position South Africa occupies and its natural resources, a Soviet-aligned South Africa would have been unacceptable for the national security of the United States. So we continued to trade with South Africa, though not in arms or military aid (the tech transfer for the G5 howitzer being the sole exception).

I can’t claim that was morally justified, but it was what we had to do at the time. The goal was to maintain the USA’s strength as a nation, and it did not have a moral purpose. And we helped push out the National Party soon after the Berlin Wall came down. So it was an ugly, immoral, but needed thing to continue trading with South Africa during the 1970’s-1980’s. it was about power, not who was right, as was much of the Cold War. As a nation, we did evil to keep our power, power we needed to survive.

If anyone knows what a better policy would have been, given what we knew at the time and what our track record of managing revolution is, please tell me.

The Cold War prism you’re looking through doesn’t really give a full picture of all the factors involved. We used the same paranoid rationale (“OMG, if the Soviets get influence in this country—Chile, Vietnam, Nicaragua, S. Africa, etc.—then we’re all doomed”) to justify a whole array of illegal, immoral, counterproductive, excessive acts around the globe. Fact is, not only were there many patriotic anti-communist American political leaders who opposed the Reagan/Thatcher policy, but so did the leaders of many western democracies who realized that South Africa, even with the ANC in power, was not the giant bogeyman portrayed by the right.

169 A Cranky One  Mar 18, 2015 8:46:16pm
170 WhatEVs  Mar 18, 2015 8:47:48pm

re: #166 #FergusonFireside

I’m thinking MHP

It’s MHP. They say her name, too.

(In bed on my iPhone. Sleep is, apparently, for others.)

171 #FergusonFireside  Mar 18, 2015 8:48:38pm

re: #167 nearly-headless smith25

Second look says you’re right. I must be tired tonight.

All I know, is there is a concerted EFFORT to dis the protest. Against all odds.

172 Varek Raith  Mar 18, 2015 8:54:18pm
173 BeachDem  Mar 18, 2015 8:54:45pm

re: #147 WhatEVs

Damn, that lady who asked Santorum that nutty question is freaking insane. It’s so sad people believe all this crap. Seriously.

facebook.com

That two of her favorites (among every other wingnutty thing possible) are Replace Eric Holder with Judge Jeanine Pirro as Attorney General and Draft Judge Andrew Napolitano forPresident tells you all you need to know.

(We grow ‘em crazy here in South Carolina—remember, it’s “too small for a republic, and too large for an insane asylum.”)

174 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 18, 2015 8:56:51pm

re: #173 BeachDem

That two of her favorites (among every other wingnutty thing possible) are Replace Eric Holder with Judge Jeanine Pirro as Attorney General and Draft Judge Andrew Napolitano forPresident tells you all you need to know.

(We grow ‘em crazy here in South Carolina—remember, it’s “too small for a republic, and too large for an insane asylum.”)

And, S.C. pulls ahead *slightly* in the crazy state olympics (still waiting for the latest from Florida Man).

175 Charles Johnson  Mar 18, 2015 9:00:45pm

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176 Charles Johnson  Mar 18, 2015 9:02:37pm

Twitter embedded tweet API is truly hosed tonight.

177 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 18, 2015 9:03:23pm

Stone Kettle chimes in on those 47 senators.

stonekettle.com

It’s not often I’m left so angry… And at a loss for words.

178 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 9:04:58pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

Twitter embedded tweet API is truly hosed tonight.

I tried like 6 times and then gave up. You can all see the cobalt blue glass head that lives on my counter tomorrow.

179 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 9:08:56pm

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

I’m going to step away again to watch CSI - Cyber. Please reply to my comment if you want but I’d ask folks not to get too mad. Again, I hate the game we had to play in regards to South Africa back in the Bad Old Days, and its only argument in favor is that of necessity.

You can claim necessity all you want but it shows to me the great problems that exist with your belief system. As I asked you downstairs, try to put yourself in the eyes of a black South African seeing US presidents and political leaders talking about freedom and liberty and then seeing that government champion the regime that treated you and yours as if you were subhuman. Not only was supporting Apartheid morally wrong, it ruined our credibility to be a leader against authoritarianism. I really wish you would try to look at the human side of things. I am well aware that the Cold War required difficult decisions by our policymakers but at the same time, lines needed to be drawn and supporting Apartheid was a big fuck up made by many a conservative Western policymaker and frankly I am not ready to concede that it was just strategic in decision like you want to claim given that many of those same policymakers also were okay with Jim Crow segregation.

180 BeachDem  Mar 18, 2015 9:08:57pm

re: #174 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

And, S.C. pulls ahead *slightly* in the crazy state olympics (still waiting for the latest from Florida Man).

We’ll pull ahead once primary season really gets revved up. Every wingnut candidate practically camps out here for the 6-12 months leading up to our “first in the South” primary. I got so tired of Michele Bachmann being in town every other week…so far, we’ve already had the teabagger hootenanny, Rick Santorum, Ted Cruz, Rick Perry and I can’t even remember who else, not counting our “native son” Lindsey, and it’s only March of 2015.

And remember, this brilliant state went for Newt in the primary last time around. Good times.

181 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 9:09:33pm

re: #168 palomino

The Cold War prism you’re looking through doesn’t really give a full picture of all the factors involved. We used the same paranoid rationale (“OMG, if the Soviets get influence in this country—Chile, Vietnam, Nicaragua, S. Africa, etc.—then we’re all doomed”) to justify a whole array of illegal, immoral, counterproductive, excessive acts around the globe. Fact is, not only were there many patriotic anti-communist American political leaders who opposed the Reagan/Thatcher policy, but so did the leaders of many western democracies who realized that South Africa, even with the ANC in power, was not the giant bogeyman portrayed by the right.

Said it much better than I could have, thank you.

182 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 9:11:31pm

Sometimes you just have to laugh, because …well… yes.

Matt McLaughlin, a lawyer from Huntington Beach in Orange County, paid his $200 filing fee Feb. 26 to submit the “Sodomite Suppression Act” to the voters. Declaring it is “better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God’s just wrath,” it would require that anyone who touches a person of the same gender for sexual gratification be put to death by “bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.”

[…]

The state Supreme Court has the power to keep measures off the ballot if they violate the California Constitution. It has exercised that power to disqualify measures that cover more than one subject, broadly defined, and to block last year’s attempt by legislative Democrats to seek a statewide advisory vote on a U.S. constitutional amendment that would limit corporate spending in federal elections. Presumably the justices could locate a state constitutional provision that would discourage shooting people in the head.

(Emphasis mine.)

183 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 18, 2015 9:12:35pm

In other news, the whole method in which propositions can be presented to the voters (and the state constitution can be amended) in CA is completely fucked up. I didn’t have an adequate appreciation for this until I moved here.

184 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 9:14:30pm

Why didn’t the people of Latin America, South America, Africa, and Asia deserve the same freedom that conservatives talked to of the Eastern Bloc? Sorry it’s bullshit just to claim that our interests involved supporting shitty regimes. It’s a cop out. One that frankly ignores the inherent racism that did exist in policy where democracy and freedom were something that was thought to only be deserving to white people. It’s something that goes back to Woodrow Wilson and Colonel House refusing to meet Ho Chi Minh during the Paris Peace Conference due to President Wilson’s own prejudices. I’ll argue that not only was it morally and ethically wrong to support tyrannical anti-communists simply because they were anti-communists, I’d argue it was strategically wrong too and we see the direct seeds of that in present day US-Iranian relations. And as Palomino has greatly pointed out, there were many Western anti-communists who saw the folly of such policies even then so it’s not mere hindsight bias.

185 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 9:21:39pm

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

I’m going to step away again to watch CSI - Cyber. Please reply to my comment if you want but I’d ask folks not to get too mad. Again, I hate the game we had to play in regards to South Africa back in the Bad Old Days, and its only argument in favor is that of necessity.

I know you’ve left for the night but I get mad because you just shrug it off as a game we had to play. You never even try to place yourselves in the situation that the people in those countries. And I’ll disagree with you until kingdom come that ti was done out of necessity. The fact is the Reagan administration actually did reverse many of the positive steps the Carter administration had made with in regards to third world dictatorships. And again I’ll ask you to put yourself in the situation of a person hearing American political leaders talk about how communism was despotic yet seeing them go around and give monetary and military aid to the right wing dictatorship and guerrillas in your backyard. I’ll further argue that not only was this wrong but it did not help our interests like you claim. It only made us look like hypocrites to the world.

186 LastYearsMan  Mar 18, 2015 9:26:24pm

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

What I find telling about this line of thinking (call we group it in with neo-con stuff in general?) is how lacking it is in results. Over and over again, a certain type of politician and pundit says we have to do this or that, and yet over and over again those moral compromises come back to bite the U.S. on the ass. I wish there were some way to perform some Sabermetrics on foreign policy and show with stats how these “necessary” moves ultimately make the U.S. and the world less safe and less secure.

187 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 9:35:32pm

Well my bracket is in place. I guess go Cavs though I did get accepted at VCU which I can’t say about UVA.

188 Kragar  Mar 18, 2015 9:39:41pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Well my bracket is in place. I guess go Cavs though I did get accepted at VCU which I can’t say about UVA.

Mine is all set as well

189 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mar 18, 2015 10:06:09pm

Kragar’s brackets killed the thread.

Thanks, Obama.

190 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Mar 18, 2015 10:07:23pm

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

I kind of expected the gang to be a bit more well versed in the realities of the Cold War. Containment, for better or worse, was the operating principle. The “far left” Carter Administration supported the Shah of Iran right through the end.
Like DF, I’m not justifying South Africa, just putting myself in the shoes of the guys who had to decide policy back then.

191 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 10:19:23pm

re: #190 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I kind of expected the gang to be a bit more well versed in the realities of the Cold War. Containment, for better or worse, was the operating principle. The “far left” Carter Administration supported the Shah of Iran right through the end.
Like DF, I’m not justifying South Africa, just putting myself in the shoes of the guys who had to decide policy back then.

I really disagree with you there. For one, we actually did support some communist regimes that were independent of Moscow. The Romanian regime led by Ceau↞scu and also the Yugoslav one by Marshal Tito had tact Western support. So, I really don’t think it was as simple as containing communism. I really do think there was a bit of racism in why our policy was okay with totalitarianism in one part of the world but not okay with it in the other. I really do feel that we alienated a lot of people who we otherwise could have had as allies against the Soviets if we had been about the principle of anti-totalitarianism.

192 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Mar 18, 2015 10:30:30pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

That was my point. It was all about containment. It didn’t matter too much what you did to your people, as long as we could use you to our advantage.
The Soviet Union wasn’t even really completely Communist. It was all about isolating them, more than stopping the spread of global Communism.

193 HappyWarrior  Mar 18, 2015 10:32:35pm

re: #192 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

That was my point. It was all about containment. It didn’t matter too much what you did to your people, as long as we could use you to our advantage.
The Soviet Union wasn’t even really completely Communist. It was all about isolating them, more than stopping the spread of global Communism.

Fair enough but did we really isolate them by supporting the Apartheid regime? I’d argue that we actually enabled their propaganda by doing that. Same thing with Latin America.

194 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 18, 2015 10:42:48pm

re: #190 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I kind of expected the gang to be a bit more well versed in the realities of the Cold War. Containment, for better or worse, was the operating principle. The “far left” Carter Administration supported the Shah of Iran right through the end.
Like DF, I’m not justifying South Africa, just putting myself in the shoes of the guys who had to decide policy back then.

To be fair, that shit sandwich was left on Carter’s plate long before he was elected.

195 The War TARDIS  Mar 18, 2015 10:46:27pm

Well, I got most objectives done, and I am about a war or two away from recreating the historical Ottoman Empire.

But, next is the whopper. I will be fighting against Hungary, Russia, France, and Corsica.

196 lostlakehiker  Mar 18, 2015 10:47:48pm

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

My claim was of necessity, not justification. No one in the US government truly supported South Africa’s apartheid system, but until the end of the Cold War the problem was the danger that a ANC-led government would have aligned with the Soviet Union. And given the strategic position South Africa occupies and its natural resources, a Soviet-aligned South Africa would have been unacceptable for the national security of the United States. So we continued to trade with South Africa, though not in arms or military aid (the tech transfer for the G5 howitzer being the sole exception).

I can’t claim that was morally justified, but it was what we had to do at the time. The goal was to maintain the USA’s strength as a nation, and it did not have a moral purpose. And we helped push out the National Party soon after the Berlin Wall came down. So it was an ugly, immoral, but needed thing to continue trading with South Africa during the 1970’s-1980’s. it was about power, not who was right, as was much of the Cold War. As a nation, we did evil to keep our power, power we needed to survive.

If anyone knows what a better policy would have been, given what we knew at the time and what our track record of managing revolution is, please tell me.

It’s not easy hindcasting alternate strategies. But I remember feeling, while visiting South Africa, a sense of incredible relief that an impossibly good ending had somehow been reached. All around, places like Zimbabwe and Mozambique were mired in civil war and economic collapse, and here South Africa was, with a degree of comity between the races and the tribes, with an economy that was still ticking over, and with real hope that it might last. Endure.

And it has.

Nelson Mandela was one of the great statesmen of the 20th century. His “Truth and Reconciliation” policy was probably the key. The basic premise was that all crimes committed by any parties to the conflict, for the purpose of advancing war aims, would be forgiven. No war crimes trials, no nothing.

But—-you had to fess up. If you kept silent and were later found out, too bad so sad you missed your chance.

There was a spate of confession. And what it did was it hammered out of all the bitter people, the ones who were so sure just how wicked the other side had been, any sense that their own side’s hands were way cleaner. And it drove home the point that pure justice, untempered by mercy, would be just too drastic and too comprehensive.

Lincoln’s “With Malice Toward None” speech had elements of the same insights. But dead men can’t set policy and things didn’t work out as well as they ought to have.

So go ahead and mull over alternative strategies. Nothing we did was anywhere near perfect. But dang, we got lucky, if it was all luck. Or maybe having the Soviet Union and its tendency to fish in troubled water sidelined by the time things unfolded in South Africa improved the odds.

197 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Mar 18, 2015 11:21:02pm

re: #195 The War TARDIS

Christ, who is your opponent, a Radio Shack TRS-80?

198 Pip's Squeak  Mar 18, 2015 11:37:49pm

re: #84 The War TARDIS

Pepi II ?

199 Pip's Squeak  Mar 18, 2015 11:47:43pm

re: #126 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Oops! Sorry.

200 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 12:08:51am

Ben Carson Warns Sunni and Shia Muslims Could ‘Unite’ to ‘Destroy’ U.S.

Asked how he compares the threat of ISIS to that of Iran, along with North Korea, Russia and China, Carson said that the U.S.’s “biggest enemies” are on the Sunni Muslim side, meaning ISIS. But, he added, “there are a number of sponsored terrorist groups that emanate from the Shia, which are based primarily in Iran.”

“Right now, they’re fighting each other in Iraq, admittedly,” he continued. “But in the long run, I think they would gladly unite against us in their attempt to destroy the United States, our way of life, and Israel. And we have to be extraordinarily careful about any alliances with them.”

As Hewitt put it, Carson is unique in positing the prospect of a Shia-Sunni alliance, pointing out, “they are at each other’s throats right now, aren’t they?”

201 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 1:03:41am

re: #200 Lidane

Ben Carson Warns Sunni and Shia Muslims Could ‘Unite’ to ‘Destroy’ U.S.

I hope they don’t make him Secretary of State if the GOP wins…

202 [deleted]  Mar 19, 2015 2:10:01am
203 Nyet  Mar 19, 2015 2:45:03am
I am writing to express dismay at Sewanee’s recent awarding of an honorary degree in Theology to Tom Wright, former bishop of Durham and now professor of New Testament at St. Andrews University in Scotland. I am the current professor of New Testament at the School of Theology at Sewanee, and Wright’s receiving an honorary degree during my tenure is a professional embarrassment. Some of the readers of this letter will know Wright as an outspoken opponent of LGBT rights and a vociferous critic of the Episcopal Church for its progressive stance. I find Wright’s position on these matters offensive and harmful. It is an affront to the School of Theology in general and to its LGBT community and its allies in particular.

But that is not my complaint here. My complaint is that Sewanee has recognized Wright as a scholar in my discipline, when in fact he is little more than a book-a-year apologist. Wright comes to the evidence not with honest questions but with ideologically generated answers that he seeks to defend. I know of no critical scholar in the field who trusts his work. He contradicts what I stand for professionally as well as the kind of hard-won intellectual integrity I hope to instill in my students. I feel like the professor of biology who has had to sit by and watch a Biblical creationist receive an honorary degree in science.

To be fair, Wright was voted his degree under a previous administration before I became professor of New Testament. And he was voted that degree when he was simply another conservative Church of England prelate of the sort we used to court. (A few of these are still in the pipeline!) But a number of things have changed. Not only are there a new administration and a new NT professor, but Wright has since retired as bishop and found a job at an under-funded Scottish university anxious to attract young full-fee-paying American Evangelical men questing for old-world cultural capital. My only consolation is that the embarrassment of Wright’s honorary degree was overshadowed by the even greater debacle of the stridently propagandistic Eric Metaxas, who was tapped to speak at this semester’s convocation. Sewanee seriously needs to rethink is honorary degrees. I am afraid that after last week they will bring a little less honor.

Sincerely,

Paul Holloway

Professor of New Testament

The School of Theology

The University of the South

thesewaneepurple.org

204 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 19, 2015 3:50:17am

re: #203 Nyet

thesewaneepurple.org

Ouch, that’s going to leave a mark :)

My quite liberal priest has a better opinion of Wright than that though my own is rather closer to that of the writer.

Thanks for sharing that, I’ll have to pass it along.

205 freetoken  Mar 19, 2015 5:14:50am

This is a test:

MP3 Audio

206 Timothy Watson  Mar 19, 2015 5:15:26am

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Well my bracket is in place. I guess go Cavs though I did get accepted at VCU which I can’t say about UVA.

Did you go to VCU?

207 Decatur Deb  Mar 19, 2015 5:17:03am

re: #205 freetoken

This is a test:

[Embedded content]

Fail. The time-travel capsule only made it as far back as the Truman administration.

208 freetoken  Mar 19, 2015 5:20:08am

re: #207 Decatur Deb

Interesting bit starting around 3:50 or so. A Republican congressman calls the President a “dictator.”

209 freetoken  Mar 19, 2015 5:20:58am

Actually starts around 3:25.

210 Nyet  Mar 19, 2015 5:22:39am

N.T. Wright seriously proposes - as a “scholar”, not as a theologian - that the best historical explanation of the alleged empty tomb and the alleged post-mortem appearances of Jesus is … the resurrection. Color me surprised.

Now, I don’t object to anyone believing in anything, I certainly don’t object to theologians defending the resurrection. But as theologians, not as alleged scholars. One can make a leap of faith and say that yeah, this shows us that Jesus rose from the dead.

One cannot say that “the best historical explanation … [is that] Jesus was indeed seen alive, because he was truly raised from the dead”. Such conclusions are outside of the realm of history. I must therefore conclude that Wright is a hack, if not worse.

211 Decatur Deb  Mar 19, 2015 5:27:39am

re: #208 freetoken

Interesting bit starting around 3:50 or so. A Republican congressman calls the President a “dictator.”

GOP: “Stick with the classics.”

212 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 19, 2015 5:27:48am

re: #210 Nyet

Agreed. I completely separate my understandings of pre & post crucifiction Jesus. One is historical and can be understood in the context of 1st century proto-rabbinic Judaism. The other is purely a creature of faith.

I prefer Marcus Borg’s idea that “Something happened. But we’ll never know what so all we have is faith.”

213 freetoken  Mar 19, 2015 5:31:22am

“… suffering from immodesty of the knees…”

Love that line.

214 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 5:34:05am

The Bible is not science text or a biography or a history. It consists of a New and Old Testament.

A testament is a statement of faith. It contains facts and statements, but only those that serve to support one’s point of view on why one believes in something.

Until people learn this distinction they will continue to conflate faith with reason, science, history and objective observation.

215 Timothy Watson  Mar 19, 2015 6:02:43am

I really need to come up with better name for my Excel spreadsheets than “asdf.xlsx”, “test.xlsx”, and “asdfqwer.xlsx”.

216 Nyet  Mar 19, 2015 6:04:12am

re: #214 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Bible is not science text or a biography or a history. It consists of a New and Old Testament.

A testament is a statement of faith. It contains facts and statements, but only those that serve to support one’s point of view on why one believes in something.

Until people learn this distinction they will continue to conflate faith with reason, science, history and objective observation.

The “testament” in NT and OT doesn’t refer to a statement of faith, but rather to a covenant (between God and humanity).

217 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 19, 2015 6:04:56am

re: #200 Lidane

As Hewitt put it, Carson is unique in positing the prospect of a Shia-Sunni alliance…

Unique.

218 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 19, 2015 6:11:01am

re: #215 Timothy Watson

I really need to come up with better name for my Excel spreadsheets than “asdf.xlsx”, “test.xlsx”, and “asdfqwer.xlsx”.

untitled1.xlsx, untitled2.xlsx … not working out for you ;)

(all of my .txt files seem to follow this naming convention.)

219 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 6:11:34am

So I have this 7 lb Dell in my lap and I thought, boy a lighter computer would be nice about now…and I did some googling. It appears installing Ubuntu on the 2.5lb Chromebooks from Acer and Samsung is really fuckin’ easy as Chrome is linux based. Stay tuned…I’ll be doing this in another week or two.

220 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 6:11:46am

re: #216 Nyet

The “testament” in NT and OT doesn’t refer to a statement of faith, but rather to a covenant (between God and humanity).

Nonetheless, they make no attempt at giving a full biography of Jesus and only include stories and anecdotes that support their point of view.

221 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 19, 2015 6:12:44am

N.T. Wright. Now there’s a name I haven’t heard in a while.

222 Timothy Watson  Mar 19, 2015 6:13:14am

re: #218 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

untitled1.xlsx, untitled2.xlsx … not working out for you ;)

(all of my .txt files seem to follow this naming convention.)

Oh, that’s too much trouble. I prefer a name where I can slide my finger across a row of the keyboard. :)

223 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 6:14:02am

re: #215 Timothy Watson

I really need to come up with better name for my Excel spreadsheets than “asdf.xlsx”, “test.xlsx”, and “asdfqwer.xlsx”.

It’s just a good thing the Bible wasn’t written in the age of computers. The gospel according to asdf. (asdf is my favorite natural word on the keyboard too, by the way, and asdfasdf makes a great password for non-critical web sites).

224 Nyet  Mar 19, 2015 6:14:12am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Nonetheless, they make no attempt at giving a full biography of Jesus and only include stories and anecdotes that support their point of view.

That is clear. They also invent storied based on the Septuagint prophecies (the best example: virgin birth).

225 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 19, 2015 6:14:30am

re: #219 darthstar

So I have this 7 lb Dell in my lap and I thought, boy a lighter computer would be nice about now…and I did some googling. It appears installing Ubuntu on the 2.5lb Chromebooks from Acer and Samsung is really fuckin’ easy as Chrome is linux based. Stay tuned…I’ll be doing this in another week or two.

It’s easy but if you need a larger drive, only the older Acers (like mine) have real disk. The newer ones have smallish SSDs. The other issue is that kernel modules are a pain to get working and often don’t work at all for no apparent reason. Mine has never run them. Last I do not know if U14.x will work on it and have stayed at 12.04 as a result.

226 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 19, 2015 6:14:40am

re: #203 Nyet

“Student organ of the University of the South.”

Lolworthy.

227 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 19, 2015 6:15:32am

re: #223 darthstar

It’s just a good thing the Bible wasn’t written in the age of computers. The gospel according to asdf. (asdf is my favorite natural word on the keyboard too, by the way, and asdfasdf makes a great password for non-critical web sites).

I type in Dvorak, so it’s aoeuaoeu. :)

228 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 6:15:52am

Back from the dr. I like this young guy—he listens, which is what I think the #1 favorable trait of a dr should be. So, I listen to him.

He also looks like Doogie Howzer; hard to believe he’s even 25, but he’s very good, thorough.

229 Nyet  Mar 19, 2015 6:15:55am

re: #223 darthstar

It’s just a good thing the Bible wasn’t written in the age of computers. The gospel according to asdf. (asdf is my favorite natural word on the keyboard too, by the way, and asdfasdf makes a great password for non-critical web sites).

For all intents and purposes, “Mark”, “Matthew”, “Luke” and “John” are the “Qwerty”, “Asdf”, “12345” and “Wfefefef” of that era. They are just generic names that got attached later. The gospels are anonymous.

230 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 6:17:17am

re: #225 William Barnett-Lewis

It’s easy but if you need a larger drive, only the older Acers (like mine) have real disk. The newer ones have smallish SSDs. The other issue is that kernel modules are a pain to get working and often don’t work at all for no apparent reason. Mine has never run them. Last I do not know if U14.x will work on it and have stayed at 12.04 as a result.

12.04 is fine, and I’m happy saving all my shit to my google drive or drop box. I figure I’ll pick up a big assed thumb drive for anything I decide needs to be on physical media.

231 Dark_Falcon  Mar 19, 2015 6:17:39am

You how there’s been talk in DC of sending mortar-spotting radars to Ukraine, and I said it was a bad idea because it would end up with the tech in Russian hands?

Well, three of those radar set were sent to Ukraine, and what I feared has come to pass:

Artillery: Russia Grabs American Gear In Ukraine

March 17, 2015: The Russians have captured an American ground radar in Ukraine. In November 2014 the United States flew in the first three (of twenty) AN/TPQ-48 portable (69 kg/150 pounds) mortar spotting radars, along with American personnel to quickly train Ukrainian troops on how to use it. With a range of 6,000 meters these radars and their computers can quickly locate where the mortars firing shells are as soon as the radar spots the shells in flight. Some of these radars were in sent to eastern Ukraine by the end of 2015 where Ukrainian troops were facing Russian backed rebels as well as Russian troops. In late January 2015 the Russians broke the ceasefire and launched another offensive. Ukrainian troops were forced back in some areas and the Russians claimed to have captured one of the AN/TPQ-48 systems and publicized the incident.

232 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 6:18:27am

re: #229 Nyet

For all intents and purposes, “Mark”, “Matthew”, “Luke” and “John” are the “Qwerty”, “Asdf”, “12345” and “Wfefefef”. They are just generic names that got attached later. The gospels are anonymous.

So the gospels weren’t written by three Irish Catholics and a Lutheran?

233 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 6:19:19am

re: #231 Dark_Falcon

If only Obama had listened to you, none of this would have happened.

234 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 6:20:59am

re: #224 Nyet

That is clear. They also invent storied based on the Septuagint prophecies (the best example: virgin birth).

They had a point of view to put forward, anything that furthered that end was seen as acceptable.

235 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 6:21:31am

re: #227 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I type in Dvorak, so it’s aoeuaoeu. :)

Wasn’t he in the court of Kamehameha?

How long have you used Dvorak? And how long did it take to get used to switching from qwerty?

236 William Barnett-Lewis  Mar 19, 2015 6:23:17am

re: #230 darthstar

12.04 is fine, and I’m happy saving all my shit to my google drive or drop box. I figure I’ll pick up a big assed thumb drive for anything I decide needs to be on physical media.

Then have fun.

Oh, one other issue I have - the computer is so light that sometimes picking it up flexes the MB causing a hard crash. It reboots fine but it can be a pain when walking around the house.

Hmm… anything else?

Track pads rarely work well but a USB or Bluetooth rodent does the trick.

All I remember off the top of my head but I’m off to bed after working all night :D

237 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 6:23:48am

re: #228 Justanotherhuman

Back from the dr. I like this young guy—he listens, which is what I think the #1 favorable trait of a dr should be. So, I listen to him.

He also looks like Doogie Howzer; hard to believe he’s even 25, but he’s very good, thorough.

There’s nothing worse than an arrogant, know-everything doctor who refuses to listen to you. I mean, it’s not like we know our own history or anything, amirite?

The older I get the more I see Doogie’s everywhere.

238 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 6:24:04am

re: #235 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Wasn’t he in the court of Kamehameha?

How long have you used Dvorak? And how long did it take to get used to switching from qwerty?

I haven’t used Dvorak myself, but I suspect the adjustment isn’t that difficult. When I was younger and doing consulting work across Europe, I often ran into different keyboard configurations - Germany, Italy, Holland - and there were slight differences…once I figured those out I was able to type full speed.

239 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 6:24:24am

re: #235 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Wasn’t he in the court of Kamehameha?

How long have you used Dvorak? And how long did it take to get used to switching from qwerty?

My daughter is living in France, she comes and switches my iPad keyboard to French and drives me dippy with it.

240 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 6:26:16am

re: #236 William Barnett-Lewis

Thanks. It’s just a thing I have with wanting to have a full OS on my machine. And Opera.

241 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 6:27:52am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

My daughter is living in France, she comes and switches my iPad keyboard to French and drives me dippy with it.

Most of the classroom computers here default to taking keyboard inputs as pinyin cues for Chinese characters. I’ll be halfway through a word before I see what’s going on and have to switch to English input.

242 Dark_Falcon  Mar 19, 2015 6:31:37am

re: #233 darthstar

If only Obama had listened to you, none of this would have happened.

It wasn’t just Obama, lots of people in Congress wanted those radars sent. I just didn’t think it was a good idea because I didn’t want Russia having a chance to grab our tech. My post was following up on something we’d discussed, not DERPing.

243 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 19, 2015 6:33:40am

re: #238 darthstar

re: #235 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Wasn’t he in the court of Kamehameha?

How long have you used Dvorak? And how long did it take to get used to switching from qwerty?

I switched four years ago from QWERTY as a summer exercise to speed up my typing. It’s really great at speed. The biggest hurdle is every keyboard in the US being QWERTY by default, so I had to learn how to switch to Dvorak on any machine I’m using. It took about two weeks with a typing training software.

The funny thing is watching people try to type on a keyboard after I’ve switched it over and forgot to switch it back.

It also makes me look like a hunt-and-peck typist when I’m using an unfamiliar QWERTY keyboard. :)

244 Romantic Heretic  Mar 19, 2015 6:33:53am

re: #195 The War TARDIS

Well, I got most objectives done, and I am about a war or two away from recreating the historical Ottoman Empire.

But, next is the whopper. I will be fighting against Hungary, Russia, France, and Corsica.

Sun Tzu them: Second best is to attack alliances.

245 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 6:36:09am

re: #237 WhatEVs

This is how fresh he is:

Medical School
Quillen College of Medicine at East Tennessee State University
Completion Year: 2010

Residency
University of Vermont - Flecher Allen
Specialty: Internal Medicine

Other Education
Internship
University of Vermont - Fletcher Allen

246 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 19, 2015 6:36:36am

That said, Dvorak is much more economical on finger movement.

247 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 6:37:52am
248 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 6:38:26am

re: #206 Timothy Watson

Did you go to VCU?

GMU.

249 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 19, 2015 6:38:30am

re: #228 Justanotherhuman

Back from the dr. I like this young guy—he listens, which is what I think the #1 favorable trait of a dr should be. So, I listen to him.

He also looks like Doogie Howzer; hard to believe he’s even 25, but he’s very good, thorough.

I had an experience with an ear specialist a few years ago like this. Guy looked fresh out of college, but listened, explained what was going on and was cordial and really took time on the appointment, which is usually not a thing with the specialists I’ve been to.

250 Romantic Heretic  Mar 19, 2015 6:39:50am

re: #246 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

That said, Dvorak is much more economical on finger movement.

QWERTY was designed to be inefficient. Keep from binding up mechanical typewriters.

251 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Mar 19, 2015 6:41:06am

re: #250 Romantic Heretic

QWERTY was designed to be inefficient. Keep from binding up mechanical typewriters.

That is the opposite of inefficient.

252 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 6:41:23am

re: #245 Justanotherhuman

That’s pretty fresh. I like young doctors mostly. Young OB/GYN, on the other hand (of which I only need the latter), not so much.

Years ago (I was maybe 28 at the time), I had gone to my doctor for a PAP smear and he was out of the office for an emergency, and his new associate came in instead. I could not stop thinking…this guy is barely weaned. It was…weird. I’ll just say he was thorough.

253 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 19, 2015 6:41:47am

re: #250 Romantic Heretic

QWERTY was designed to be inefficient. Keep from binding up mechanical typewriters.

Yep. That was part of my reason for exploring alternatives, along with finger pain that i was having prior to the switch.

I do have to touch type pretty much always, because I have no letter references on most keyboards.

254 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 6:42:56am

Okay then…so Randy Quaid isn’t the best filmmaker in the world. And the Murdoch face above the bed? Not exactly titillating.

255 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 6:43:34am

I’m going to miss Pres Obama…

President Obama orders 40% cut in federal government’s greenhouse gas emissions - @joshledermanAP
bigstory.ap.org

256 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 6:45:03am

So Charlie Sheen is still off his meds I see.

257 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 6:46:01am

re: #254 darthstar

Okay then…so Randy Quaid isn’t the best filmmaker in the world. And the Murdoch face above the bed? Not exactly titillating.

[Embedded content]

where do we get our perverse fascination with celebrity porn?

258 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 6:46:18am

re: #256 darthstar

So Charlie Sheen is still off his meds I see.

Yeah I just saw that too. The fuck.

259 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Mar 19, 2015 6:47:48am

The best class I ever took in high school was typing. It would be years before I ever did any real typing but the mechanics were still there. My wife wanted to do it in her high school but they had no typing class. It was a foofy high school and they assumed their grads would have secretaries to do the typing for them.
Say what you want about QWERTY, but as far as I’m concerned, it’s good enough. I also don’t understand what the typewriter origins have to do with the criticism. If the layout was intended to keep the letters from jamming, one would think it would also keep your fingers from interfering with each other also.

260 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 6:48:49am

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

where do we get our perverse fascination with celebrity porn?

I don’t get it either.

261 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 6:49:52am

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Why don’t these has-beens get real jobs?

262 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Mar 19, 2015 6:50:24am

re: #254 darthstar

Okay then…so Randy Quaid isn’t the best filmmaker in the world. And the Murdoch face above the bed? Not exactly titillating.

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Is that really Cousin Eddie?

263 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 6:50:31am

re: #259 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

The best class I ever took in high school was typing. It would be years before I ever did any real typing but the mechanics were still there. .

That class did more than anything else I learned in high school to help me work as a translator.

264 Dark_Falcon  Mar 19, 2015 6:51:13am

re: #256 darthstar

So Charlie Sheen is still off his meds I see.

What did the ‘warlock’ do this time?

265 Timothy Watson  Mar 19, 2015 6:51:52am

re: #259 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

The best class I ever took in high school was typing. It would be years before I ever did any real typing but the mechanics were still there. My wife wanted to do it in her high school but they had no typing class. It was a foofy high school and they assumed their grads would have secretaries to do the typing for them.
Say what you want about QWERTY, but as far as I’m concerned, it’s good enough. I also don’t understand what the typewriter origins have to do with the criticism. If the layout was intended to keep the letters from jamming, one would think it would also keep your fingers from interfering with each other also.

One of my uncles, who works as a Director of Emergency Medicine at a hospital, said the only class that ended up being worthwhile for him in high school was typing. :)

266 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 6:52:35am
267 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 6:53:10am

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

What did the ‘warlock’ do this time?

Racist rant at Obama over his NCAA picks.

268 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 6:53:35am

Draft nuclear deal would cap Iran’s uranium centrifuges at 6,000 for decade or more - @AP
end of alert

1h
Iran will stay ‘as long as necessary’ at nuke talks, envoy says - @NBCNews

nbcnews.com

269 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 6:54:32am

I think some schools require typing now. Not really a bad idea. It’s a must have skill I’d argue.

270 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Mar 19, 2015 6:54:54am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That class did more than anything else I learned in high school to help me work as a translator.

What languages do you translate? I ask because if I ever make it out of nursing school, I want to learn a language, but I can’t decide which. I figure there are plenty of Spanish speakers, but Philadelphia has large Russian, Vietnamese, Korean and Chinese populations that go underserved.

271 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 6:55:56am

re: #269 HappyWarrior

My typing skills kept me in many jobs. Unfortunately, I was typecast far too often.

272 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 6:56:35am

re: #270 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

What languages do you translate? I ask because if I ever make it out of nursing school, I want to learn a language, but I can’t decide which. I figure there are plenty of Spanish speakers, but Philadelphia has large Russian, Vietnamese, Korean and Chinese populations that go underserved.

I translate mostly from German into English, occasionally Russian.

Been living and working in Europe since 1988.

273 Timothy Watson  Mar 19, 2015 6:56:39am

re: #256 darthstar

So Charlie Sheen is still off his meds I see.

*sigh* I feel sorry for his dad, who battled his own addiction issues when he was younger.

274 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 6:57:35am

re: #246 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

That said, Dvorak is much more economical on finger movement.

So I understand. The qwerty layout was supposedly designed to prevent letter bar jams in manual typewriters.

275 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Mar 19, 2015 6:58:31am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I used to speak German pretty well, but with nobody to speak it with for thirty years, it seems to have faded away. I think I still have the grammar (it was pretty complicated), but the vocab seems truly gone.

276 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 6:59:04am

re: #254 darthstar

Wow. That’s some really weird shit.

Yes, I have seen Randy Quaid’s penis. I have watched Randy Quaid perform cunnilingus on his wife. I have watched Randy Quaid receive a blow job. I have watched Randy Quaid choke his wife with a belt while she brings herself to orgasm. And I have lived to tell the tale.
…
From the camera mounted on his desk, we see him wordlessly grab a GoPro and proceed to his wife on the bed. He pulls off her bikini bottoms and goes down on her. At least, it appears so. The bill of his hat blocks much of the action until Evi takes it off and puts it on her own head. Randy’s face just sits there, wedged between her legs with hardly any movement. Is he alive? Is he breathing? Are there lingual acrobatics going on under his massive beard? It is entirely unclear, just as it is unclear if his wife is deriving any pleasure from it, as she makes nary a sound.

Speaking of sound, the whole time that this is happening, their dog, who is right there in the room with them, is barking in the background. Incessantly. Gratingly. I cannot emphasize enough how completely awful it is to listen to and yet they seem completely impervious to it. That is truly the most unbelievable thing about this video — not the weird sex or paranoid rantings, but the fact that they do not tell that dog to shut up.
…
Then comes the erotic asphyxiation scene. Evi ties a belt around her neck, says something about autoerotic asphyxiation and how that was how David Carradine “supposedly” died, and then tells Randy, “Let’s pretend we’re doing that.” But first, she asks Randy to come up with a safety word.

Randy: “Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.”

Evi: “That’s too long a safety word. How about ‘Rupert’?”

Randy: “Okay, Rupe.”

Then she starts up the vibrator and Randy, responding to the dog who is, of course, still barking, says, “I’d like to strangle that dog.” (Most relatable moment of the whole film.) Eventually, her face turns kind of red and she seemingly orgasms while moaning, “Ah, Rupert. Ah, Rupert.”
…
It’s about as nuts as it sounds. They yell at each other a bunch, particularly about what they’re wearing and whether their outfits are suitable, given the subject at hand. Then, seemingly resolved on that particular debate, she gives him a blow job while he wears a Murdoch mask. Then he pretends to give her a blow job while she wears a Murdoch mask and pretends to smoke a joint. Naturally, the dog is barking once again.

I have but one question after sitting through the entire 72 minutes of those videos: Where is my hazard pay?

277 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 6:59:39am

re: #273 Timothy Watson

At 50 yrs on his next birthday, he’s still rebelling against daddy.

What a douche.

278 Dark_Falcon  Mar 19, 2015 6:59:48am

re: #267 darthstar

Racist rant at Obama over his NCAA picks.

A Mel Gibson-type meltdown.

279 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 6:59:49am

re: #256 darthstar

re: #258 HappyWarrior

What’d I miss?

280 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 7:00:07am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I translate mostly from German into English, occasionally Russian.

Been living and working in Europe since 1988.

I’ve got a lot of students here in China who hope to be translators. How did you get your start?

281 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:01:20am

re: #279 WhatEVs

What’d I miss?

Charlie Sheen said some racist crap about Obama following the revelation of the president’s NCAA bracket.

282 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 7:01:21am

re: #279 WhatEVs

Racist rant.

thedailybeast.com

283 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 7:03:15am

Wheeee!

Illinois Rep. Aaron Schock’s resignation statement read on House floor - @NBCNews
end of alert

284 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 7:03:22am

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

What did the ‘warlock’ do this time?

thedailybeast.com

285 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:05:16am
286 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 7:05:45am

re: #282 Justanotherhuman

Racist rant.

thedailybeast.com

Thanks!

287 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 7:05:49am

re: #280 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’ve got a lot of students here in China who hope to be translators. How did you get your start?

I worked for a company that did a lot of business between the UK, Germany and Russia, I just got stuck translating stuff. Translation is not a regulated trade in Germany, anyone can slip in, but it is almost all free-lance.

You need to specialize in something that is in demand, a legal/technical/financial background will get you tons of well paid work.

Most of what I do is focused on wine and tourism, as I live in the Rhineland.

288 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:06:59am

re: #285 darthstar

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Ha trouche but the others are just as big assholes. But I can see why Christie’s personality really rubs people the wrong way. He doesn’t even try to be diplomatic. He seems to revel in his role as Top Dick.

289 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Mar 19, 2015 7:07:12am

I remember this guy. Gene Gene the Dancing Machine passed away.

philly.com

290 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:08:59am
291 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 7:10:30am

re: #290 darthstar

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Ronny is going to hell now. He had his chance and blew it.

292 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 7:10:43am

re: #287 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Tell them to send moar good Rhine Valley Riesling to the US, willya?

293 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 7:10:43am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

Ha trouche but the others are just as big assholes. But I can see why Christie’s personality really rubs people the wrong way. He doesn’t even try to be diplomatic. He seems to revel in his role as Top Dick.

I think they’re the same asshole in some ways (like how they view people and how badly they want to fuck them over), but Christie has a special assholeness when it comes to actually talking to people. I am a brash, outspoken person, but I also try to consider how I speak to someone, where Christie would give a constitute with a valid question the brush off in a very nasty way.

I don’t think you’ve ever seen Walker, for example, personally and up close/in your face, give someone the FU like Christie does.

294 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 7:12:31am

re: #292 Justanotherhuman

Tell them to send moar good Rhine Valley Riesling to the US, willya?

They just export the surplus crap they can’t sell here…

295 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:13:06am

re: #293 WhatEVs

I think they’re the same asshole in some ways (like how they view people and how badly they want to fuck them over), but Christie has a special assholeness when it comes to actually talking to people. I am a brash, outspoken person, but I also try to consider how I speak to someone, where Christie would give a constitute with a valid question the brush off in a very nasty way.

I don’t think you’ve ever seen Walker, for example, personally and up close/in your face, give someone the FU like Christie does.

This is a good point.

296 Dark_Falcon  Mar 19, 2015 7:13:11am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

Charlie Sheen said some racist crap about Obama following the revelation of the president’s NCAA bracket.

Which is truly stupid, given that president Obama’s NCAA bracket has been a minor March item on ESPN since 2009. Not even Obama-haters in Congress like Mike Lee grouse about it.

Charlie Sheen seems determined to immolate the last bits of his career on a funeral pyre of Warlock Napalm-Grade Burning Stupid.

297 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:14:20am

re: #296 Dark_Falcon

Which is truly stupid, given that president Obama’s NCAA bracket has been a minor March item on ESPN since 2009. Not even Obama-haters in Congress like Mike Lee grouse about it.

Charlie Sheen seems determined to immolate the last bits of his career on a funeral pyre of Warlock Napalm-Grade Burning Stupid.

He’s just bitter that he’s not relevant anymore but yeah the bracket is a staple since he’s our first true basketball fan in the OO.

298 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 7:14:36am

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Well, it doesn’t given me a headache like CA wines do. : )

299 Nyet  Mar 19, 2015 7:15:17am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Würdest du dich wagen, was ins Deutsche zu übersetzen?

300 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 7:16:35am

re: #289 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I remember this guy.

philly.com

Ah, Chuck Barris, et al, at the epitome of the 70s drug culture.

301 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 7:17:26am

re: #299 Nyet

Würdest du dich wagen, was ins Deutsche zu übersetzen?

lohnt sich nicht, dauert mir viel zu lang…

302 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 7:18:15am

re: #287 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I worked for a company that did a lot of business between the UK, Germany and Russia, I just got stuck translating stuff. Translation is not a regulated trade in Germany, anyone can slip in, but it is almost all free-lance.

You need to specialize in something that is in demand, a legal/technical/financial background will get you tons of well paid work.

Most of what I do is focused on wine and tourism, as I live in the Rhineland.

Good advice. The trouble with Chinese university education is that it’s much too specialized. My Business English majors learn very little about other topics, like law, finance and techie stuff. Unless they learn that stuff themselves, they’re lost.

On the other hand, a couple of my graduates have fallen into specialized translation jobs just because they are only one in their office who has any English skills. One girl is in Tanzania now dealing with translating Chinese contracts and work orders into English, and she’s learning Swahili and accounting, because she handles payroll for the workers.

303 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:19:29am

re: #300 WhatEVs

Ah, Chuck Barris, et al, at the epitome of the 70s drug culture.

The good old days when people just did a bunch of blow and fucked each other silly. That’s why I liked The Love Boat as a kid.

304 Dark_Falcon  Mar 19, 2015 7:20:10am

re: #297 HappyWarrior

He’s just bitter that he’s not relevant anymore but yeah the bracket is a staple since he’s our first true basketball fan in the OO.

that last isn’t entirely true. Obama’s a major NCAA fan, but so was Bill Clinton while he was in office (I don’t know if he still is). Both post-Carter Democratic presidents have been college basketball fans, its just that we sometimes forget that because they were separated by George W. Bush, a Republican who played and still favors baseball.

305 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:22:13am

re: #304 Dark_Falcon

Bush never played baseball. His daddy’s friends helped him get partial ownership of a team during the hey-day of players doping.

306 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:22:33am

re: #304 Dark_Falcon

that last isn’t entirely true. Obama’s a major NCAA fan, but so was Bill Clinton while he was in office (I don’t know if he still is). Both post-Carter Democratic presidents have been college basketball fans, its just that we sometimes forget that because they were separated by George W. Bush, a Republican who played and still favors baseball.

I think Clinton and Carter were more casual fans. When I say Obama is our first basketball fan as president, I mean he’s like how Bush was with baseball someone that knows the game quite well. I do remember Clinton wearing Arkansas Razorback garb but I don’t recall him having the in depth knowledge of the game and its personalities that Obama does.

307 Dark_Falcon  Mar 19, 2015 7:24:30am

re: #305 darthstar

Bush never played baseball. His daddy’s friends helped him get partial ownership of a team during the hey-day of players doping.

Not professionally, but back when he was a kid and in high school he played baseball for his school’s teams.

308 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:24:48am

re: #305 darthstar

Bush never played baseball. His daddy’s friends helped him get partial ownership of a team during the hey-day of players doping.

Never played beyond his senior year of HS in contrast to his father who played at Yale. There’s actually a photo of the elder Bush with Babe Ruth. I think the point here though is Obama enjoys the game of basketball like Bush does baseball. Bush much like myself may not necessarily have been the best baseball player but he’s still an enthusiast.

309 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:26:24am

Come to think of it, we’ve never had a hockey fan really as president but I attribute that to a couple things. One, hockey’s only recently gotten more popular with Americans and a lot of our presidents have come from warm areas. Obama is an exception but even he grew up in Hawaii.

310 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:26:41am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

He was, however, a hell of a cheerleader.

311 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:27:17am
312 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 7:27:21am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

I think Clinton and Carter were more casual fans. When I say Obama is our first basketball fan as president, I mean he’s like how Bush was with baseball someone that knows the game quite well. I do remember Clinton wearing Arkansas Razorback garb but I don’t recall him having the in depth knowledge of the game and its personalities that Obama does.

Obama plays ball, too. I don’t remember previous presidents playing sports, other than bowling in the WH alley, swimming (FDR), horseback riding (Ronnie) and golfing (several). But I confess I haven’t paid close attention.

I’m waiting for the first gamer to become president.

313 stpaulbear  Mar 19, 2015 7:28:07am

re: #309 HappyWarrior

Come to think of it, we’ve never had a hockey fan really as president but I attribute that to a couple things. One, hockey’s only recently gotten more popular with Americans and a lot of our presidents have come from warm areas. Obama is an exception but even he grew up in Hawaii.

Tim Pawlenty could have been our first hockey president, but he was an incompetent boob and as cold hearted as Walker.

314 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:28:22am

re: #312 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Obama plays ball, too. I don’t remember previous presidents playing sports, other than bowling in the WH alley, swimming (FDR), horseback riding (Ronnie) and golfing (several). But I confess I haven’t paid close attention.

I’m waiting for the first gamer to become president.

Yeah there’s that too.

315 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:28:47am

re: #313 stpaulbear

Tim Pawlenty could have been our first hockey president, but he was an incompetent boob.

Yeah that was quite the candidacy he had.

316 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 7:29:06am

Get rid of this guy.

Secret Service Chief Joseph Clancy Says Reports of White House Crash Are Exaggerated

nbcnews.com

317 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:29:11am

re: #312 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m waiting for the first gamer to become president.

Sir, the Prime Minister is waiting…

Can’t you see I’m about to get 500 gold coins?

318 Thanos  Mar 19, 2015 7:29:13am

re: #312 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Obama plays ball, too. I don’t remember previous presidents playing sports, other than bowling in the WH alley, swimming (FDR), horseback riding (Ronnie) and golfing (several). But I confess I haven’t paid close attention.

I’m waiting for the first gamer to become president.

Francis Underwood!

319 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:30:19am

re: #310 darthstar

He was, however, a hell of a cheerleader.

Haha I shouldn’t laugh since my own grandfather was one too but it is something I laugh at when the tcot idiots try to claim Bush is all manly man and Obama wears mom jeans! I actually think the country would have been better off with Bush as MLB commissioner than president. For one, he’d have no reason to bring in Dick Cheney.

320 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 7:30:39am

Wasn’t Pope John Paul II a skier? Have any presidents been skiers?

321 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:30:40am
322 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 7:31:44am

re: #317 darthstar

Sir, the Prime Minister is waiting…

Can’t you see I’m about to get 500 gold coins?

I’m almost to the next level! Ask him to hold!

323 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 7:32:34am

re: #321 darthstar

Heh, he’s good.

324 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 7:32:37am

re: #217 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Unique.

It’s a polite way for Hewitt to call Carson a fucking moron for suggesting that the Sunni and Shia factions of Islam will simply put centuries of disagreement aside to destroy the United States.

325 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:32:40am

re: #320 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Wasn’t Pope John Paul II a skier? Have any presidents been skiers?

Yes and yes. Ford was a huge skier. And Ford would have been the only president to be in the NFL but he wanted to go to law school.

326 Targetpractice  Mar 19, 2015 7:34:45am

re: #317 darthstar

Sir, the Prime Minister is waiting…

Can’t you see I’m about to get 500 gold coins?

“Yes, I think this peace accord would be worth…DAMNIT!”

“Is something the matter, Mr. President?”

“Sure is, Ghandi just declared war on me and nuked two of my cities. I’ll have to call you back.”

327 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 7:35:04am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Yes and yes. Ford was a huge skier. And Ford would have been the only president to be in the NFL but he wanted to go to law school.

Yeah! Now I remember Ford on skis. I’d forgotten that. Also the NFL possibility.

328 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:35:46am

re: #323 Justanotherhuman

Heh, he’s good.

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Just like Frozen, why the hell is Fox bitching about this now? Isn’t this “Let’s bitch about women’s history month” month? Honestly, I don’t have a problem with Black History Month. It allows students to learn about people who in the past were pushed away from discussion because of their skin color.

329 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:36:41am

“Hold on, I’m in the middle of a heist in GTA.”

330 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 7:37:21am

re: #326 Targetpractice

“Yes, I think this peace accord would be worth…DAMNIT!”

“Is something the matter, Mr. President?”

“Sure is, Ghandi just declared war on me and nuked two of my cities. I’ll have to call you back.”

OK, maybe having a gamer as president would not be a good thing. On the other hand, settling international disagreements with virtual wars would be a lot cheaper and less messy. The War TARDIS is already about to defeat the Ottomans with no loss of actual life.

331 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 7:37:45am

A president that was a skater and or surfer would be pretty cool. I remember when Ted Stevens died reading that he was a surfer in his younger days. That one surprised me since you know the chill surfer stereotype and Ted Stevens was anything but that haha.

332 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2015 7:38:36am
333 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:38:37am

Rouhani PWNS the GOP in tweets.

334 stpaulbear  Mar 19, 2015 7:38:51am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

I’m waiting for the first gamer to become president.

Does eleven-dimensional chess count?

335 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 7:39:14am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Just like Frozen, why the hell is Fox bitching about this now? Isn’t this “Let’s bitch about women’s history month” month? Honestly, I don’t have a problem with Black History Month. It allows students to learn about people who in the past were pushed away from discussion because of their skin color.

I introduced my freshmen to Scott Joplin today, because one of our listening assignments used Bethena as a lead in. He died almost 100 years ago.

336 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 7:39:16am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

I’m waiting for FN to have on a bunch of men to discuss women who in the past were pushed away from discussion because of their gender.

337 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 7:39:30am

re: #324 Lidane

It’s a polite way for Hewitt to call Carson a fucking moron for suggesting that the Sunni and Shia factions of Islam will simply put centuries of disagreement aside to destroy the United States.

Sunnis and Shi’ites all everywhere do nothing all day but sit and think about world domination and destroying the USA because they hate our freedoms so much…

338 Decatur Deb  Mar 19, 2015 7:39:51am

re: #326 Targetpractice

“Yes, I think this peace accord would be worth…DAMNIT!”

“Is something the matter, Mr. President?”

“Sure is, Ghandi just declared war on me and nuked two of my cities. I’ll have to call you back.”

Ghandi’s a pimp. Isabella is worse.

339 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:40:29am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just in time for SXSW

340 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 7:42:08am

re: #265 Timothy Watson

One of my uncles, who works as a Director of Emergency Medicine at a hospital, said the only class that ended up being worthwhile for him in high school was typing. :)

Typing and Business Data Processing (i.e., typing on one of them newfangled computer thingies) are the only two classes that have really stayed with me since graduating high school. English, too. I had a teacher that would make you rewrite an entire paper or project if you had any comma splices or grammatical errors. She’d take an entire letter grade off the revised draft, too. It’s made me very anal retentive about my paper writing which was a godsend in grad school and comes in handy at work.

341 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 7:42:08am

re: #334 stpaulbear

Does eleven-dimensional chess count?

It sure would, but he’d probably be a Vulcan and ineligible to run.

342 Targetpractice  Mar 19, 2015 7:42:09am

“The White House has announced that the trade talks, scheduled to begin today, have been moved back to tomorrow. No official word has been given, but unofficial sources say the President stayed up for the midnight release of Fallout 4.”

343 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:43:46am

Andrea Mitchell ‏@mitchellreports
In 1st interview since election Netanyahu backs off opposition to Palestinian state after White House threat

344 Decatur Deb  Mar 19, 2015 7:44:18am

re: #342 Targetpractice

“The White House has announced that the trade talks, scheduled to begin today, have been moved back to tomorrow. No official word has been given, but unofficial sources say the President stayed up for the midnight release of Fallout 4.”

“Congratulations!! To proceed to the next level, please enter the Permissive Action Link key.”

345 Targetpractice  Mar 19, 2015 7:44:58am

re: #343 darthstar

Andrea Mitchell ‏@mitchellreports
In 1st interview since election Netanyahu backs off opposition to Palestinian state after White House threat

So whatever it takes to get elected, eh Bibi?

346 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 7:46:08am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve been ranting about that on Facebook. It’s such bullshit. I’ve been to a lot of those businesses and in my experience they treat everyone who walks through the door fairly.

It’s also hilariously obtuse, considering a lot of the businesses getting those stickers are in East Austin, which, gentrified hipster areas aside, is largely black and Hispanic.

347 A Cranky One  Mar 19, 2015 7:46:27am

re: #312 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

…
I’m waiting for the first gamer to become president.

I think folks may have stumbled on the real reason for Putin’s disappearance!

348 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:46:28am

re: #345 Targetpractice

So whatever it takes to get elected, eh Bibi?

I think if we just put that $3billion to better use, and gave Israel moral support for a few years instead of military support, we might move closer to a two state solution.

349 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 7:46:45am

re: #316 Justanotherhuman

Get rid of this guy.

Secret Service Chief Joseph Clancy Says Reports of White House Crash Are Exaggerated

nbcnews.com

This is the story I heard straight away. No one was reporting it but…I cannot recall who…but from the reporting I heard this was a nothingburger. No speeding, no drinking at all.

Who knows what to believe anymore.

350 RadicalModerate  Mar 19, 2015 7:47:40am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

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White supremacists seem to be particularly active lately - I’ve seen at least a dozen news stories in the past couple of weeks of them recruiting for their ranks, engaging in intimidation tactics, or plotting (or actually engaging in) acts of racially-based violence.

351 Decatur Deb  Mar 19, 2015 7:48:08am

re: #349 WhatEVs

This is the story I heard straight away. No one was reporting it but…I cannot recall who…but from the reporting I heard this was a nothingburger. No speeding, no drinking at all.

Who knows what to believe anymore.

If only there were an agency with the resources to track down the lying villain.

352 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 7:48:41am

re: #350 RadicalModerate

White supremacists seem to be particularly active lately - I’ve seen at least a dozen news stories in the past couple of weeks of them recruiting for their ranks, engaging in intimidation tactics, or plotting (or actually engaging in) acts of racially-based violence.

Their rage does seem to be really bubbling to the surface. And the GOP has done little to distance themselves from them at all, so they are feeling their oats.

353 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:49:17am
354 Targetpractice  Mar 19, 2015 7:49:17am

Of course, the most likely explanation for why Bibi has suddenly backed down is because the White House has been making noises since Tuesday that if Bibi got reelected and stuck to the “No Palestinian” BS, then US opposition to the UN forcing Israel’s hand might suddenly disappear.

355 nearly-headless smith25  Mar 19, 2015 7:50:07am
356 A Cranky One  Mar 19, 2015 7:50:41am

re: #352 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Their rage does seem to be really bubbling to the surface. And the GOP has done little to distance themselves from them at all, so they are feeling their oats.

The GOP and their propaganda arm are actually mainstreaming the bigotry and racism.

357 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 7:50:51am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

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WTF? I hate people.

358 Apocalypse  Mar 19, 2015 7:50:58am

Tell you what, no ads makes mobile browsing here a frack load better.

359 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 7:52:48am

re: #342 Targetpractice

That reminds me. If anyone has Netflix and you haven’t already seen it, check out The Fall. Excellent performances from the very hawt Gillian Anderson, as work-obsessed DCS Gibson, on loan in Belfast from the Met for this case, and also by Jamie Dornan as a serial killer, is very much worth seeing.

In one scene, Gibson is having a brief conversation with ACC Jim Burns, with whom she once had a fling. He says, “You don’t realize what kind of effect you have on men” and said he would have left his wife, his kids, everything, for her.

She replied, “It would have been a mistake.”

360 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:53:26am

re: #354 Targetpractice

Of course, the most likely explanation for why Bibi has suddenly backed down is because the White House has been making noises since Tuesday that if Bibi got reelected and stuck to the “No Palestinian” BS, then US opposition to the UN forcing Israel’s hand might suddenly disappear.

That needs to become a promise, and not a threat. Bibi’s like Putin when it comes to negotiations. Blah blah blah fuck you I do what I want.

361 lawhawk  Mar 19, 2015 7:54:29am

re: #343 darthstar

Andrea Mitchell ‏@mitchellreports
In 1st interview since election Netanyahu backs off opposition to Palestinian state after White House threat

I’ll refer to what I stated previously about Netanyahu. No matter what position he staked out, he’s going to piss off a significant portion of Israelis. No 2-state solution? That pisses off the Israeli left, and further alienates Israeli Arabs, to say nothing of the Palestinians and other Arab countries (though some actually benefit from the status quo or ongoing conflict since it means more influence on Palestinians and/or as a source for cannon fodder).

Accept 2-state solution? The same Israeli right that chose him because he’s “strong on defense” will now fret that the guy turned around and stabbed them in the back because he’s going to go and cut a deal with the folks he was demonizing the day before.

Fact is and remains that Netanyahu says and does anything to remain in power. Whether he can actually cut a peace deal is entirely besides the point. His only mission was reelection, and in that he succeeded.

I still don’t see him as the Israeli leader who can achieve a peace deal, or even engage in a disengagement a la Sharon. Instead, he’s going to continue fumbling along with the status quo and will find himself with another conflict with Hamas before long that undermines his whole “strong on Israel’s security” bit. His record to date is not different than Kadima. Both suffered through conflicts with Hamas that had mixed outcomes.

362 RadicalModerate  Mar 19, 2015 7:54:54am

re: #357 WhatEVs

WTF? I hate people.

Just some Texans pining for the ‘good old days’ of Jim Crow.

363 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 7:56:07am

re: #349 WhatEVs

No evidence after 4 days, of course (tapes are allegedly erased after 72 hrs). But pretty sure witnesses from the Irish pub they were in could verify if they’d been drinking and were high as kites. And they were answering a suspicious package call on the WH grounds.

364 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:56:35am
365 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 7:57:46am

re: #357 WhatEVs

WTF? I hate people.

The prevailing theory online is that it’s some wannabe idealist douche trying to stick it to “the man” by targeting these businesses and calling them racist.

It’s bullshit.

366 A Cranky One  Mar 19, 2015 7:57:52am

re: #357 WhatEVs

WTF? I hate people.

Easy to feel that way, they seem to supply a lot of reasons to do so.

But then I think about the folks here and get back a little faith in humanity. Good thing too, otherwise I’d get cranky. Oh wait…. ;)

367 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 7:58:03am

re: #361 lawhawk

He needs tough love.

368 Justanotherhuman  Mar 19, 2015 7:58:44am

BBL.

369 Dark_Falcon  Mar 19, 2015 8:00:22am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Which sick son of a coyote did that?

370 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 8:03:06am

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

Which sick son of a coyote did that?

Conservative talk radio station, I saw earlier on teh twittah

371 lawhawk  Mar 19, 2015 8:03:30am

I had to laugh yesterday at all the idiots who came out and announced their unwavering support and kudos to Netanyahu for winning reelection. That includes Ted Cruz calling Netanyahu extraordinary.

I couldn’t help myself but think of the scene in Harry Potter where Ron gets hit with a love potion meant for Harry and pines for Romilda Vane, a girl who he had never met.

…

All these folks simply heap support for Netanyahu without knowing the first thing about Netanyahu, Israeli politics, or what positions he holds/held/will hold.

Rather, they support him because of their opposition to Obama, who holds personal animus towards Netanyahu (and vice versa).

372 Dark_Falcon  Mar 19, 2015 8:04:04am

re: #365 Lidane

The prevailing theory online is that it’s some wannabe idealist douche trying to stick it to “the man” by targeting these businesses and calling them racist.

It’s bullshit.

re: #370 darthstar

Conservative talk radio station, I saw earlier on teh twittah

So which answer is it?

373 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 19, 2015 8:07:25am

re: #274 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So I understand. The qwerty layout was supposedly designed to prevent letter bar jams in manual typewriters.

When I was young and played with my mother’s manual typewriter I used to make it jam on purpose by mashing a bunch of keys at once.

:E

374 Dave In Austin  Mar 19, 2015 8:08:59am

Heckovajob Brownie……

375 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 19, 2015 8:09:19am

re: #289 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I remember this guy. Gene Gene the Dancing Machine passed away.

philly.com

A friend of mine has been referred to as “Gene Gene The Blogging Machine” by some of his cohort. He knew the reference at least.

376 Targetpractice  Mar 19, 2015 8:10:06am

re: #371 lawhawk

I had to laugh yesterday at all the idiots who came out and announced their unwavering support and kudos to Netanyahu for winning reelection. That includes Ted Cruz calling Netanyahu extraordinary.

I couldn’t help myself but think of the scene in Harry Potter where Ron gets hit with a love potion meant for Harry and pines for Romilda Vane, a girl who he had never met.

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All these folks simply heap support for Netanyahu without knowing the first thing about Netanyahu, Israeli politics, or what positions he holds/held/will hold.

Rather, they support him because of their opposition to Obama, who holds personal animus towards Netanyahu (and vice versa).

I’m reminded of friends from across the pond remarking with confusion and exasperation to Americans fawning over Tony Blair, calling him this great leader for his speeches, when back home he was viewed as at best mediocre.

377 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 8:11:41am

re: #372 Dark_Falcon

So which answer is it?

I’d go with his. My answer is based on the speculation from my friends on FB.

378 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 19, 2015 8:13:12am

re: #330 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

OK, maybe having a gamer as president would not be a good thing. On the other hand, settling international disagreements with virtual wars would be a lot cheaper and less messy. The War TARDIS is already about to defeat the Ottomans with no loss of actual life.

Actually The War TARDIS *is* the Ottomans.

379 Dark_Falcon  Mar 19, 2015 8:14:51am

re: #377 Lidane

I’d go with his. My answer is based on the speculation from my friends on FB.

Well, I hope your theory is right. I’d rather it was some dumb idealist gone stupid than actual racism.

380 Dave In Austin  Mar 19, 2015 8:15:23am

re: #377 Lidane

I’m seeing in the Statesman where area activists are saying this is a hack at the gentrification of the area. Done in bad taste either way.

381 ObserverArt  Mar 19, 2015 8:16:03am

Morning all.

I just read through most of this thread and I had to get up and go find a calendar to make sure it was actually March 19, 2015.

After reading on all the things like South African racism, the cold war stances, revisiting American racism, old-time sheriffs that didn’t run counties, they run fiefdoms and the like I needed to check that I didn’t somehow regress back to when I was younger.

And then I realize where the regression actually lies. Right here in River City USofA.

382 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 8:16:48am

re: #374 Dave In Austin

Heckovajob Brownie……

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The GOP really does seem to think that Nethanyahu somehow beat Obama in the election…some sort of vicarious thrill and compensation for losing twice

383 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 8:19:40am

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

Well, I hope your theory is right. I’d rather it was some dumb idealist gone stupid than actual racism.

Oh, it’s racism alright. Even though CNN calls it ‘vandalism’…

cnn.com

Though I am confused by your use of the soft term ‘dumb idealist’…kids who want to give ponies to the world are idealists. People who post whites only stickers are racists.

384 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mar 19, 2015 8:20:39am

re: #341 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It sure would, but he’d probably be a Vulcan and ineligible to run.

How about half-Vulcans? Spock’s mother was human and spoke with an American accent. If she was a U.S. citizen, wouldn’t Spock be one too?

385 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 8:22:03am

re: #380 Dave In Austin

I’m seeing in the Statesman where area activists are saying this is a hack at the gentrification of the area. Done in bad taste either way.

I live in East Austin. Yeah, it’s gentrifying. And yes, a lot of white hipsters are moving into the area. But for fuck’s sake, there aren’t WHITE PEOPLE ONLY signs all over the damn place. Huston-Tillotson is right down the block from me. There are a lot of Hispanic shops and businesses. There’s still plenty of East Austin in East Austin. It hasn’t all turned into the warehouse district yet. :p

386 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 8:22:49am

re: #383 darthstar

Oh, it’s racism alright. Even though CNN calls it ‘vandalism’…

cnn.com

Though I am confused by your use of the soft term ‘dumb idealist’…kids who want to give ponies to the world are idealists. People who post whites only stickers are racists.

Remember that 50 years ago, it was totally common and legal in a lot of places…

387 Ace-o-aces  Mar 19, 2015 8:24:59am
SPLC and others confirm affiliation with Hammerskins; other mass shooters like the Sikh Temple shooter have come from that group as well.

BUT WHITE SHOOTERS ALL LONE WOLFS!!! ONLY TEH BLAHS FORM GANGS, INSPIRED BY TEH HIPPITY HOP!!!!!!

388 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mar 19, 2015 8:25:26am

re: #383 darthstar

Oh, it’s racism alright. Even though CNN calls it ‘vandalism’…

cnn.com

Though I am confused by your use of the soft term ‘dumb idealist’…kids who want to give ponies to the world are idealists. People who post whites only stickers are racists.

Not if the intention is to imply that the businesses so stickered are themselves racist, which was my first thought when I saw the story.

389 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 8:25:27am

re: #386 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Remember that 50 years ago, it was totally common and legal in a lot of places…

It was totally common and legal racism 50 years ago too.

390 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 8:26:49am

re: #388 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Not if the intention is to imply that the businesses so stickered are themselves racist, which was my first thought when I saw the story.

It’s a pretty good quality sticker - multiple colors, city logo - it’s not the work of a single ‘vandal’…this campaign cost money, and came two days before the big music festival.

391 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mar 19, 2015 8:27:51am

re: #390 darthstar

It’s a pretty good quality sticker - multiple colors, city logo - it’s not the work of a single ‘vandal’…this campaign cost money, and came two days before the big music festival.

Which addresses what I wrote how?

392 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 8:31:23am

re: #391 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Which addresses what I wrote how?

Sorry. Wasn’t registering the the thought that it was targeting specific businesses as a theory. Was still focused on the asshole factor.

393 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 8:33:09am

If it was a way of calling out local businesses before tens of thousands of tourists flood the city, I suspect it will have gotten their attention. Austin’s a liberal blue dot in a big assed red state.

394 Dark_Falcon  Mar 19, 2015 8:33:21am

re: #388 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Not if the intention is to imply that the businesses so stickered are themselves racist, which was my first thought when I saw the story.

Exactly. Someone posting it as a misguided anti-racism protest.

Whatever the truth, I expect Alex Jones to claim it as an Obama-Holder False Flag Op!!!11.

395 darthstar  Mar 19, 2015 8:33:22am

Battery dying…time to go put this brick away.

396 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 8:33:37am

re: #390 darthstar

It’s a pretty good quality sticker - multiple colors, city logo - it’s not the work of a single ‘vandal’…this campaign cost money, and came two days before the big music festival.

And it just happens to target businesses in an area of town that is gentrifying. The city has made no secret of the fact that they want to overhaul and clean up downtown and East Austin, but there needs to be a real balance between improving downtown and East Austin and erasing what makes them unique.

These stickers are such bullshit. They take a serious issue and trivialize it.

397 Eventual Carrion  Mar 19, 2015 8:33:54am

re: #355 nearly-headless smith25

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In-fucking-credible.

398 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 8:35:18am

Bibi on Tuesday: ZOMG TEH AYRABZ R VOTING! ELEVENTY!

Bibi today:

399 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2015 8:36:59am

This sounds like some sort of political soap opera:

400 lawhawk  Mar 19, 2015 8:37:36am

re: #398 Lidane

Moonwalking back all the craziest of the statements attributed to him or Likud generally. Because it was all for reelection. The reality is that now that the election is behind him, he’s going to be doing the SS/DD routine.

401 Timothy Watson  Mar 19, 2015 8:41:30am

re: #398 Lidane

Bibi on Tuesday: ZOMG TEH AYRABZ R VOTING! ELEVENTY!

Bibi today:

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SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE ARABS!1!!

402 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 19, 2015 8:43:01am

Derp bait for the day==>

403 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 19, 2015 8:44:03am

Because I’m seeing HURR HURR ALL TEH MOAST POOR CITIES ARE RUNS BY TEH DEMOCRATZ!!!!! DEMOCRATSHATEPOORPEOPLE1!!!!!!

404 lawhawk  Mar 19, 2015 8:44:24am

re: #402 The Mother Of All Pies

That amount of chum in the water is sure to get results. You’re going to need a bigger boat.

405 Ace-o-aces  Mar 19, 2015 8:44:54am
406 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 8:46:40am

This is juvenile, ridiculous, and amazing. I’m trying not to laugh right now:

407 danarchy  Mar 19, 2015 8:49:05am

re: #390 darthstar

It’s a pretty good quality sticker - multiple colors, city logo - it’s not the work of a single ‘vandal’…this campaign cost money, and came two days before the big music festival.

I don’t know, looks like something you could get 100 of printed at Vistaprint for $20.

408 lawhawk  Mar 19, 2015 8:49:37am

re: #403 The Mother Of All Pies

Largest cities in US:

1) NYC (D)
2) LA (D)
3) Chicago (D)

And keep going down the list: Dallas (D); Austin (D); Raleigh (D); San Jose (D); San Francisco (D); San Antonio (D); Phoenix (D); etc.

There are some cities with independent or nonpartisan mayors, but of the big cities, Miami has a GOPer for Mayor.

409 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 8:49:45am

re: #406 Lidane

This is juvenile, ridiculous, and amazing. I’m trying not to laugh right now:

Dicks by Mail, A Service That Anonymously Mails Your Enemies an Edible ‘Bag of Dicks’

better than the “glitter bombing” service

410 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 8:53:16am
411 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 8:53:50am

re: #384 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

How about half-Vulcans? Spock’s mother was human and spoke with an American accent. If she was a U.S. citizen, wouldn’t Spock be one too?

Judging from the latest spin in re: Ted Cruz, it would depend on his skin color. Would Americans accept a president with green blood and pointy ears? We have a guy who was born in Hawai’i, forchrissakes, and there are still people calling him an illegal usurper.

I can imagine some future time when a presidential candidate born on the Mars colony would have a tough time with the nativists on Earth.

412 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 8:54:36am

re: #411 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Judging from the latest spin in re: Ted Cruz, it would depend on his skin color. Would Americans accept a president with green blood and pointy ears? He have a guy who was born in Hawai’i, forchrissakes, and there are still people calling him an illegal usurper.

I can imagine some future time when a presidential candidate born on the Mars colony would have a tough time with the nativists on Earth.

Not if we declared Mars to be US soil!!!

413 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 19, 2015 8:57:16am

re: #412 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Not if we declared Mars to be US soil!!!

We’ll have to, because the Chinese are going to take the Moon as an economic outpost.
/ half

414 lawhawk  Mar 19, 2015 8:59:20am

re: #413 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thought that was supposed to be the Japanese as part of their Greater East Asian CoProsperity Zone. /

415 allegro  Mar 19, 2015 9:03:02am

re: #412 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Not if we declared Mars to be US soil!!!

Like Puerto Rico?

416 lawhawk  Mar 19, 2015 9:03:09am

re: #412 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Get your ass to Mars!

417 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 9:04:43am

re: #415 allegro

Like Puerto Rico?

Puerto Rico Needs Women!!!

418 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 19, 2015 9:06:31am

Wingnuts keep spamming this meme, using photo of the Packard plant which closed in 1958==>

419 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 19, 2015 9:08:24am

re: #418 The Mother Of All Pies

Wingnuts keep spamming this meme, using photo of the Packard plant which closed in 1958==>

Who is John Galt?

420 Ace-o-aces  Mar 19, 2015 9:10:32am

After posting that Tweet, I wonder if she’ll understand I’m being sarcastic.

421 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 19, 2015 9:10:40am

re: #419 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Who is John Galt?

Some asshole on Twitter.

422 Ace-o-aces  Mar 19, 2015 9:17:58am
423 Ace-o-aces  Mar 19, 2015 9:20:05am

Reality is not an after-school special.

424 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 9:22:38am

So glad Arpaio’s county is still the one free place in this country where the Old West is alive and well.

*spit*

Maricopa county, who else lives there?

John McCain
Sarah Palin
… . .

425 Targetpractice  Mar 19, 2015 9:23:08am

re: #423 Ace-o-aces

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Reality is not an after-school special.

“Believe in yourself” doesn’t really do much when your boss is barred by corporate rules to give you a raise or any benefits besides a store discount.

426 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 9:23:47am

re: #420 Ace-o-aces

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After posting that Tweet, I wonder if she’ll understand I’m being sarcastic.

Positive Thinking, Hard Work and a little help from my friends …

You can do it all by yourself

427 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 9:24:29am

re: #415 allegro

Like Puerto Rico?

Michelle Bachman is their Congress Critter, so yes, it make sense to me.

428 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mar 19, 2015 9:24:53am

re: #411 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Judging from the latest spin in re: Ted Cruz, it would depend on his skin color. Would Americans accept a president with green blood and pointy ears? We have a guy who was born in Hawai’i, forchrissakes, and there are still people calling him an illegal usurper.

I can imagine some future time when a presidential candidate born on the Mars colony would have a tough time with the nativists on Earth.

The real problem would come when a half-Vulcan presidential candidate had to put his hand over his heart for the Pledge of Allegiance.

429 lawhawk  Mar 19, 2015 9:25:03am

Of course, I know the point - he wants more spending on nuclear inventory, which means less money for social programs and anything else non-military related.

We’d just have to ignore that the USAF has ordered itself a pair of hanger queens - the F-22 and F-35 (which also provides hanger queens to the USMC and USN) that are unable to do the jobs that they were intended, but sure are pretty to look at.

Meanwhile, the USAF wants to send the A-10 to the Boneyard, even though there’s nothing else in the inventory that can do what it does. Nothing. It isn’t glamorous like the F-16 or F-15, let alone the F-22, but it can put lethal force on the enemy at close range in a way that no other aircraft can in the US inventory.

The B-52 has outlasted every attempt to retire it, because it is a perfect design. It carries more than other aircraft, can do standoff launches, can drop massive amounts of ordnance, and while it lacks stealth, it isn’t nearly the hanger queen that the B-2 is either. The B-1 might have speed over the B-52, but it too lacks the ability to put volume of weapons on target.

Heck, the design is such that they could tack new engines and avionics to it, and it’ll be good to go for another generation.

430 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 9:25:34am

Morning all!

Finally bought in to the Photoshop Creative Cloud and have been going thru the tutorials.

I now understand why Charles has our Images in three different sizes.

Just a bit behind.

How has your week been?

431 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 19, 2015 9:26:24am

This might be 24-hour rule to possibly account for something like a previously existing medical condition. I sincerely hope it’s not another case of our young adults killing their own due to a misplaced sense of invulnerability and willingness to abuse.

18-year-old fraternity member found dead

432 Dave In Austin  Mar 19, 2015 9:26:31am

re: #424 FemNaziBitch

I grew up there and spent a good part ob my adult life there…. Different time and a different Republican Party….

433 ObserverArt  Mar 19, 2015 9:26:50am

re: #403 The Mother Of All Pies

Because I’m seeing HURR HURR ALL TEH MOAST POOR CITIES ARE RUNS BY TEH DEMOCRATZ!!!!! DEMOCRATSHATEPOORPEOPLE1!!!!!!

Remind them Columbus Ohio is run by Democrats.

Mayor Greg Coleman has been mayor since 2000. He could probably remain mayor, but at 60 he has decided to retire as the mayor. Good chance City Council President Andrew J. Ginther will be elected mayor this November, or it might be Sheriff Zach Scott…both Democrats.

By the way…Coleman was also City Council President for two terms before becoming Mayor.

Economy, infrastructure, jobs in Columbus…all doing fine by today’s economic standards.

The last few elections the Republicans have basically run token candidates knowing they get clobbered. They might have a slight chance this time, but with Coleman pushing hard for Ginther and Ginther never screwing up anything, the Repubs will have a hard challenge.

434 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 9:27:04am

re: #423 Ace-o-aces

I’m all for being an optimistic person and having goals but I’m sick to death of the ZOMG BOOTSTRAPS mindset, where people think they got wherever they are entirely on their own and that the only problem poor people have is a their attitude or that they’re lazy.

435 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 9:30:44am

re: #424 FemNaziBitch

So glad Arpaio’s county is still the one free place in this country where the Old West is alive and well.

*spit*

Maricopa county, who else lives there?

John McCain
Sarah Palin
… . .

Arizona wanted Law and Order writ large and Low Taxes writ even larger. Sheriff Joe was the logical outcome of that combination.

436 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 19, 2015 9:33:21am

re: #421 The Mother Of All Pies

Some asshole on Twitter.

Hurr hurr here, have a Who is John Galt? bumper sticker to piss off all the libtards!!!!

437 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 9:34:00am

re: #432 Dave In Austin

I grew up there and spent a good part ob my adult life there…. Different time and a different Republican Party….

Barry Goldwater’s home … .

438 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 9:35:59am

re: #434 Lidane

I’m all for being an optimistic person and having goals but I’m sick to death of the ZOMG BOOTSTRAPS mindset, where people think they got wherever they are entirely on their own and that the only problem poor people have is a their attitude or that they’re lazy.

The thing is the whole point of Capitalism (IMHO) is to work together for efficiency to create the most competitive product at the cheapest price and transport it to people who will buy it. This takes cooperation and relationships.

As I Pencil describes.

439 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 9:36:30am

re: #432 Dave In Austin

I grew up there and spent a good part ob my adult life there…. Different time and a different Republican Party….

Note my avatar: I grew up there and graduated from Uof A in Tucson. It was also once the home of Democrats like Mo Udall and Bruce Babbitt.

440 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 9:37:21am

re: #422 Ace-o-aces

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Hey, before dissing that show, watch it. I think it’s a UK show and I saw some snips and it was absolutely hysterical. I mean, totally, laugh out loud, Pepsi out the nose funny.

441 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 9:38:01am
442 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 9:40:02am

re: #438 FemNaziBitch

The thing is the whole point of Capitalism (IMHO) is to work together for efficiency to create the most competitive product at the cheapest price and transport it to people who will buy it. This takes cooperation and relationships.

As I Pencil describes.

Capitalism iz all about teh individual profiting off their grit and ideas!

Cooperation and relationships? What kinda commie are you?!

/////

443 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 19, 2015 9:41:37am

re: #423 Ace-o-aces

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Reality is not an after-school special.

Killer Bunny blocked me for BEING A COMMUNIST!!!1!!!!

444 BlueGrl21  Mar 19, 2015 9:45:28am

re: #159 Decatur Deb

Was Balloon Juice always that tight-assed and narrow-minded?

Late to the party, but yes. That’s why I came here. I like it so much better.

446 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 19, 2015 9:47:23am

re: #436 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Hurr hurr here, have a Who is John Galt? bumper sticker to piss off all the libtards!!!!

when the demographics have shifted and responsible people are in government again trying to solve problems, these morons will still be keeping themselves busy trying to piss off liberals

447 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 9:47:45am

John Galt is a fictional character.

448 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 9:48:37am
449 Dr. Matt  Mar 19, 2015 9:48:50am

re: #447 FemNaziBitch

John Galt is a fictional character.

So is the Ronny Raygun of the 21st Century.

450 BlueGrl21  Mar 19, 2015 9:48:52am

re: #447 FemNaziBitch

John Galt is a fictional character.

Shhhh, I want to be able to identify the idiots who don’t know!

451 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 19, 2015 9:49:33am

re: #444 BlueGrl21

Late to the party, but yes. That’s why I came here. I like it so much better.

Obama tried to blow up a nuke in Charleston a few months ago and the three Admirals and Generals. He has totally destroyed our military. He has fired all the Generals and all the Admirals who said they wouldn’t fire on the American people if they ask ‘em to do so if he wanted to take the guns away from ‘em. This man is a Communist dictator.

Obama’s been firing generals and admirals. Obama’s a communist dictator who somehow allowed that crazy person to speak against him at that batshit crazy conference yesterday. Also, our country America won’t be here by the next election. And something guns.

////

452 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 19, 2015 9:50:14am

“hurr hurr im the one that believes in freedom you communist welfare moocher”

“sorry no time to chat i have a business to run and im refinancing my mortgage”

453 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 9:51:32am
454 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 9:53:33am

Is there any animal that more resembles it’s stuffed toy equivalent?

455 ObserverArt  Mar 19, 2015 9:53:35am

Keep shaking the nuts from the trees Lizards. Be back later…lots to do this afternoon.

456 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 9:55:17am

re: #445 FemNaziBitch

Nevada Lawmaker Says Racism Is Over, Then Refers To Colleague As ‘Colored’

fixed

457 Dr Lizardo  Mar 19, 2015 9:57:23am

re: #454 FemNaziBitch

Whatever breed of dog this is:

Its cuteness will destroy you
458 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 9:57:27am

re: #441 FemNaziBitch

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What did they call those “company towns” in which the workers rented their homes from the employer and bought stuff on credit at the “employee store”. They would have their “charges” deducted from their paycheck and be left in debt at the end of the pay period.

This is the current state of most minimum-wage employees these days. Only the debtor is a hospital or Visa.

459 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 9:59:51am

re: #458 FemNaziBitch

What did they call those “company towns” in which the workers rented their homes from the employer and bought stuff on credit at the “employee store”. They would have their “charges” deducted from their paycheck and be left in debt at the end of the pay period.

This is the current state of most minimum-wage employees these days. Only the debtor is a hospital or Visa.

A lot of companies issue debit cards in lieu of a paycheck, with penalties attached if the user does not spend certain amounts at certain intervals.

460 lawhawk  Mar 19, 2015 10:01:50am

re: #451 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

That woman seems to be laboring under several delusions. For one, the nukes actually did fall near Charleston, but back in 1958 (Tybee Island). And it was Eisenhower as president, and it was an accidental air-collision.

And Truman had to deal with the Admiral’s revolt. (primarily because Truman canceled the USS United States aircraft carrier project, and intraservice rivalries meant that those funds went to the USAF, not the USN).

Not Obama.

GWB had a bunch of generals go off on Rumsfeld though.

Again, not Obama.

461 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 10:03:22am

re: #458 FemNaziBitch

What did they call those “company towns” in which the workers rented their homes from the employer and bought stuff on credit at the “employee store”. They would have their “charges” deducted from their paycheck and be left in debt at the end of the pay period.

The Mexican hacienda system.

462 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 19, 2015 10:04:00am

re: #459 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

A lot of companies issue debit cards in lieu of a paycheck, with penalties attached if the user does not spend certain amounts at certain intervals.

And there is a fee for every transaction using the card.

463 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 10:04:00am

re: #457 Dr Lizardo

Whatever breed of dog this is:

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I want to say a just bathed, clipped and blown-dry Maltipoo, but I don’t know.

464 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 19, 2015 10:04:45am

In other interesting news, I finally completed Shelby Foote’s Civil War trilogy, all via audio CD, with Grover Gardner the narrator.

It’s quite a fascinating level of detail, and I learned a lot about different battles and various generals. Pretty amazing the writers who can pull all this information together and transform it into narrative form.

That being said, it’s an account heavily weighted towards the South. Not so much the tone of it, just the amount of material dedicated to telling about its generals and people. The tone is pretty even keel, even though Foote’s sympathies seem rather clear. I got pretty winded of it towards the end and skipped through some sections.

Anyway, I’ve probably heard as much about the Confederacy as I care to for a while and feel a need to delve back into some Lincoln- Grant-Sherman-Sheridan material to compensate.

465 Dr. Matt  Mar 19, 2015 10:05:04am
466 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 10:05:10am

re: #462 The Mother Of All Pies

And there is a fee for every transaction using the card.

My last employer tried to do that. If you didn’t have direct deposit into a bank account, they issued debit cards. I don’t know how long it lasted.

467 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2015 10:05:52am

lol wut?

wftv.com

468 Dr Lizardo  Mar 19, 2015 10:06:43am

re: #463 FemNaziBitch

I want to say a just bathed, clipped and blown-dry Maltipoo, but I don’t know.

Apparently, it’s a teacup Pomeranian.

It’s a Pokemon stuffed toy come to life! Gaze into its eyes and feel its cuteness overwhelm you!!

gracielushihtzu.com

469 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 10:06:45am

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol wut?

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wftv.com

I don’t even want to know.

470 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 10:07:09am

re: #468 Dr Lizardo

Apparently, it’s a teacup Pomeranian.

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gracielushihtzu.com

I was close!

471 Dr. Matt  Mar 19, 2015 10:07:37am

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

Now they are going to lock up toothbrushes at the stores in addition to razors and body soap.

472 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 10:07:56am

I want one of these.

473 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 10:08:10am

GOHMERT!

475 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 19, 2015 10:09:27am

re: #464 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

In other interesting news, I finally completed Shelby Foote’s Civil War trilogy, all via audio CD, with Grover Gardner the narrator.

It’s quite a fascinating level of detail, and I learned a lot about different battles and various generals. Pretty amazing the writers who can pull all this information together and transform it into narrative form.

That being said, it’s an account heavily weighted towards the South. Not so much the tone of it, just the amount of material dedicated to telling about its generals and people. The tone is pretty even keel, even though Foote’s sympathies seem rather clear. I got pretty winded of it towards the end and skipped through some sections.

Anyway, I’ve probably heard as much about the Confederacy as I care to for a while and feel a need to delve back into some Lincoln- Grant-Sherman-Sheridan material to compensate.

The narrative reflects the general run of civil war historical literature at the time Foote did his research. I could directly connect some of his prose to corresponding sections of a book of Gettysburg at that time. The general more union-centric counterpoint to Foote would be to read Bruce Catton’s trilogy from roughly the same time period.

If you want a one volume treatment of the war and causes MacPherson’s _Battle Cry of Freedom_ is probably your best bet. And there are probably enough ACW readers here you could get recommendations regarding the various facets and campaigns if you are interested in any particular event.

476 Targetpractice  Mar 19, 2015 10:09:41am

The President is such a “wimp” that he’s gotten yet another “strong” leader to back down.

477 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 10:11:52am
478 Ace-o-aces  Mar 19, 2015 10:12:08am

re: #451 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Obama’s been firing generals and admirals. Obama’s a communist dictator who somehow allowed that crazy person to speak against him at that batshit crazy conference yesterday. Also, our country America won’t be here by the next election. And something guns.

You know what I really find amusing about that crazy lady? She thinks Obama tried to Nuke Charleston, but it’s like the fifth thing she mentions! If I thought the president had tried to murder several million people, that would be my lede.

479 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 10:12:08am

re: #472 FemNaziBitch

I want one of these.

And I want a corgi. Two of my coworkers bring theirs to the office. Very sweet, charming dogs.

My cats might have a problem with me getting a dog, though. Heh.

480 lawhawk  Mar 19, 2015 10:12:21am

IOW, Netanyahu gets to claim he hasn’t changed his position at all. Time isn’t right for Palestinian statehood because circumstances haven’t and wont improve (just ignore that he’s part of reason for the circumstances not improving, along with fact that Abbas and Hamas are also responsible for a lack of improved circumstances).

481 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 10:14:24am

re: #479 Lidane

And I want a corgi. Two of my coworkers bring theirs to the office. Very sweet, charming dogs.

My cats might have a problem with me getting a dog, though. Heh.

My cat hates when I bring a new dog into the house. Then he decides it’s a new toy. I swear he has lived as long as he is and is very healthy because of the mental stimulation he derives from the dogs.

482 lawhawk  Mar 19, 2015 10:15:31am

This will be my perfect dog for now.

amazon.com

I am not home enough to give a live one the kind of love and attention it needs. And the dogs I’d prefer need lots of roaming space, which aren’t really possible with my living arrangements - those would be golden retrievers or Alaskan huskies.

483 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 19, 2015 10:16:11am

re: #475 Feline Fearless Leader

Yeah I’ve got a number of ACW books, including McPherson’s although haven’t read it. As much as I like having the actual physical form of a book, e-readers and audio CD’s have been my best means of actually digesting the written word. You’re right as to the time period Foote was writing in and how the ACW was academically as well as popularly portrayed for many years. One of the few instances I think where the winners didn’t actually write the history(ies), or at least not most of them, for many years.

484 Ace-o-aces  Mar 19, 2015 10:16:13am

Examples?

485 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 10:16:45am
Feline Overlord and the Fugitive
486 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 10:17:23am

re: #482 lawhawk

This will be my perfect dog for now.

amazon.com

I am not home enough to give a live one the kind of love and attention it needs. And the dogs I’d prefer need lots of roaming space, which aren’t really possible with my living arrangements - those would be golden retrievers or Alaskan huskies.

It’s soooo cute!

487 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 19, 2015 10:17:24am
488 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 19, 2015 10:17:42am

re: #478 Ace-o-aces

You know what I really find amusing about that crazy lady? She thinks Obama tried to Nuke Charleston, but it’s like the fifth thing she mentions! If I thought the president had tried to murder several million people, that would be my lede.

Well, the nuking of Charleston failed, you see.

//

489 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 10:17:42am

LOLWUT:

490 FemNaziBitch  Mar 19, 2015 10:18:04am

Great!

I am getting an optic migraine.

They suck. No pain, just visual distortions.

bbl

491 andres  Mar 19, 2015 10:18:07am

re: #417 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Puerto Rico Needs Women!!!

Thanks, but we already have very beautiful women. // I know the reference, just wanted to take it literally. :p

However, if you know any honest, intelligent politician, we’d love to receive them!

492 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 10:18:23am

re: #454 FemNaziBitch

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Is there any animal that more resembles it’s stuffed toy equivalent?

It makes me want to have one. I promise to love it and hug it forever and ever! Also, so would the dogs…of whom I would not trust with a stuffed one, let alone a live one. Seriously, though, that little thing is totes adorbs!

493 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 10:19:27am

re: #457 Dr Lizardo

Whatever breed of dog this is:

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I would say it is a white Pomeranian.

494 wrenchwench  Mar 19, 2015 10:19:40am

re: #44 Nyet

re: #42 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

what is that word tattooed on his neck? “wanted”?

“Fuckwad” in German.

Here’s my favorite response:

118 jaunte 3/18/2015 12:48:57 pm PDT

re: #103 wrenchwench

“I can’t read his neck”

Sometimes that’s all you need to say.

Now I think it says ‘DUNCE’

495 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 19, 2015 10:21:47am
496 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 10:23:20am

re: #479 Lidane

We’re getting this little doll this weekend.

497 The Mother Of All Pies  Mar 19, 2015 10:26:49am
498 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2015 10:29:11am

jeebus:

499 iossarian  Mar 19, 2015 10:29:49am

re: #497 The Mother Of All Pies

Does the feminist Thor have big bewbs?

500 wrenchwench  Mar 19, 2015 10:31:33am

re: #499 iossarian

Does the feminist Thor have big bewbs?

501 iossarian  Mar 19, 2015 10:33:44am

re: #500 wrenchwench

Nice sword.

502 Kragar  Mar 19, 2015 10:34:54am
503 Lidane  Mar 19, 2015 10:36:07am

Wanted: One TARDIS to take me to May 1 ASAP. Please and thank you.

…

504 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 19, 2015 10:39:51am

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus:

Disabled woman tries to gently educate parking space violator, gets raging note left on windshield

This incident indicates the extent to which we are going from a society where people are called on to help each other in need to a society that throws people to the wolves.

505 Eventual Carrion  Mar 19, 2015 10:41:02am

re: #479 Lidane

And I want a corgi. Two of my coworkers bring theirs to the office. Very sweet, charming dogs.

My cats might have a problem with me getting a dog, though. Heh.

I loved my old corgi. One of the best dogs I ever had. Other than his penchant for eating my cucumbers off the vine. He left everything else in the garden alone, but would grab a cucumber off the vine, throw it around, bite it in half, maybe eat some of it, and then leave it laying there.

506 Targetpractice  Mar 19, 2015 10:42:34am

re: #503 Lidane

Wanted: One TARDIS to take me to May 1 ASAP. Please and thank you.

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My sister informed me the other day that, for my birthday present, she’s taking me to a double feature of both Avengers films on May 1st.

Have I mentioned how much I love my sister?

507 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2015 10:44:16am

re: #505 Eventual Carrion

I loved my old corgi. One of the best dogs I ever had. Other than his penchant for eating my cucumbers off the vine. He left everything else in the garden alone, but would grab a cucumber off the vine, throw it around, bite it in half, maybe eat some of it, and then leave it laying there.

heh. I had a dog that did the same thing. She would stroll down to 100-foot row of cucumbers, inspecting each one. When she got to the end of the row, she’d turn around, give one long glance down the row, then run to pick her preferred selection.
She also liked to dig up potatoes.

508 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 19, 2015 10:44:44am

re: #483 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Yeah I’ve got a number of ACW books, including McPherson’s although haven’t read it. As much as I like having the actual physical form of a book, e-readers and audio CD’s have been my best means of actually digesting the written word. You’re right as to the time period Foote was writing in and how the ACW was academically as well as popularly portrayed for many years. One of the few instances I think where the winners didn’t actually write the history(ies), or at least not most of them, for many years.

The “south fumbled the war while the Union won via attrition” theory was still in the ascendant when Foote was writing. Also know as “The Freeman School” since that the main historian who’d written the authoritative biography of R E Lee along with a subsequent volume on Lee’s generals. Others built on his work and there was a solid Lee-Jackson focus on the ACW for a number of decades.

509 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 19, 2015 10:46:12am

re: #497 The Mother Of All Pies

Marvel is doing a universe reboot in about 1-2 years. Female Thor is going to bite the dust at that point when they simplify things.

510 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2015 10:47:11am
511 WhatEVs  Mar 19, 2015 10:47:35am

re: #473 Lidane

GOHMERT!

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This is a first…Gohmert actually said “Democratic Party”. He’s ill. Someone call the waaambulance. He used proper English.

(faint)

512 Decatur Deb  Mar 19, 2015 10:50:27am

re: #423 Ace-o-aces

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Reality is not an after-school special.

Is KillerBunnyFooFoo a 14-yr old, or is she an FBI agent trolling political sites?

513 Decatur Deb  Mar 19, 2015 10:51:28am

re: #457 Dr Lizardo

Whatever breed of dog this is:

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I think they’re used by chimney sweeps.

514 HappyWarrior  Mar 19, 2015 11:02:49am

re: #510 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Boom. Nice one Senator Reid.

515 wrenchwench  Mar 19, 2015 11:07:43am
516 Decatur Deb  Mar 19, 2015 11:11:53am

re: #515 wrenchwench

Man charged in Mesa shootings appears in court

Wha’ happen tattoos?

517 wrenchwench  Mar 19, 2015 11:15:11am

re: #516 Decatur Deb

Wha’ happen tattoos?

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He got ‘bruised’ being taken in to custody. I can’t read his eyebrows now.

518 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 19, 2015 11:32:28am

re: #516 Decatur Deb

Wha’ happen tattoos?

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Magic Marker tattoos…

519 Decatur Deb  Mar 19, 2015 11:33:44am

re: #518 Backwoods_Sleuth

Magic Marker tattoos…

No commitment to The Cause.

520 Nyet  Mar 19, 2015 11:41:59am

re: #515 wrenchwench

He looks chastened!
(Not.)

521 lostlakehiker  Mar 19, 2015 6:50:05pm

re: #508 Feline Fearless Leader

The “south fumbled the war while the Union won via attrition” theory was still in the ascendant when Foote was writing. Also know as “The Freeman School” since that the main historian who’d written the authoritative biography of R E Lee along with a subsequent volume on Lee’s generals. Others built on his work and there was a solid Lee-Jackson focus on the ACW for a number of decades.

The South missed some opportunities and squandered some resources. The missed opportunities are a feature of almost any war between sides that were anywhere near being evenly matched. The squandering mostly arose out of the militant and uncompromising martial culture of the South. Who but a coward would settle for hemming in a Yankee position and starving it out or in some other way vitiating its influence on the wider war, when there was a prospect of driving the hated bluecoats off the ridge and into the river or sea or something?

The answer just wouldn’t occur to them.

There’s even a book.

Attack and Die: Civil War Military Tactics and the Southern Heritage Paperback - July 30, 1984
by Grady McWhiney (Author), Perry D. Jamieson (Author)

From the ad text:

In the first twenty-seven months of combat 175,000 Southern soldiers died. This number was more than the entire Confederate military force in the summer of 1861, and it far exceeded the strength of any army that Lee ever commanded. More than 80,000 Southerners fell in just five battles. At Gettysburg three out of every ten Confederates present were hit; one brigade lost 65 percent of its men and 70 percent of its field officers in a single charge. A North Carolina regiment started the action with some 800 men; only 216 survived unhurt. Another unit lost two-thirds of its men as well as its commander in a brief assault.”
Why did the Confederacy lose so many men? The authors contend that the Confederates bled themselves nearly to death in the first three years of the war by making costly attacks more often than the Federals. Offensive tactics, which had been used successfully by Americans in the Mexican War, were much less effective in the 1860s because an improved weapon - the rifle - had given increased strength to defenders. This book describes tactical theory in the 1850s and suggests how each related to Civil War tactics. It also considers the development of tactics in all three arms of the service during the Civil War.
In examining the Civil War the book separates Southern from Northern tactical practice and discusses Confederate military history in the context of Southern social history. Although the Southerners could have offset their numerical disadvantage by remaining on the defensive and forcing the Federals to attack, they failed to do so. The authors argue that the Southerners’ consistent favoring of offensive warfare was attributable, in large measure, to their Celtic heritage: they fought with the same courageous dash and reckless abandon that had characterized their Celtic forebears since ancient times. The Southerners of the Civil War generation were prisoners of their social and cultural history: they attacked courageously and were killed - on battlefields so totally defended by the Federals that “not even a chicken could get through.”


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