It’s XTC day at LGF, so here’s a fascinating interview with Andy Partridge from Alan Thompson’s BBC Radio show, with some of Andy’s favorite XTC songs interspersed. Andy’s impersonation of Sting is an instant classic, and his discussion of the rigors of touring really hit home for me, as someone who toured all over the world for years. (It ain’t all it’s cracked up to be, folks.)
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jaunte Mar 21, 2015 6:55:07pm |
From a BBC page about XTC linked earlier today:
{Mayor of Simpleton] “…A perfect and simple pop song, in which all of the instruments once again refuse to stay in one spot for longer than the briefest of seconds. It’s not unlike seeing the perfect souffle being delivered on the back of a million fighting ants.”
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Charles Johnson Mar 21, 2015 6:55:25pm |
When the Al Jarreau band toured South Africa, the trip there took more than 30 hours, and then we had to do a TV show on the day we arrived. I remember someone shaking me awake on a table in the dressing room where I had passed out and handing me my guitar.
Smell the glamour.
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sagehen Mar 21, 2015 7:00:27pm |
(It ain’t all it’s cracked up to be, folks.)
But I bet it was a lot of fun at first, when you still had all that youthful energy…
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Charles Johnson Mar 21, 2015 7:02:58pm |
I did get to meet Nelson Mandela on that trip, so maybe, just maybe, the pain was worth it.
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TedStriker Mar 21, 2015 7:08:21pm |
re: #2 Charles Johnson
When the Al Jarreau band toured South Africa, the trip there took more than 30 hours, and then we had to do a TV show on the day we arrived. I remember someone shaking me awake on a table in the dressing room where I had passed out and handing me my guitar.
Smell the glamour.
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BeenHereAwhile Mar 21, 2015 7:08:53pm |
re: #2 Charles Johnson
When the Al Jarreau band toured South Africa, the trip there took more than 30 hours, and then we had to do a TV show on the day we arrived. I remember someone shaking me awake on a table in the dressing room where I had passed out and handing me my guitar.
Smell the glamour.
And if the talent is difficult, it makes it a lot worse.
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Charles Johnson Mar 21, 2015 7:11:33pm |
Then there was the time the whole band took an insanely long flight to South Korea to play a show in Seoul, got there, and found out the promoter had violated the terms of the contract. Turned around and took an insanely long flight right back to LA, with no rest time at all.
This is why I do not miss touring.
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Charles Johnson Mar 21, 2015 7:16:50pm |
And by the way, when I returned to LA from South Africa after another 30+-hour trip, the Malibu firestorm of 1993 was raging, and nearly destroyed my house in Pacific Palisades.
It was an eventful year for your blog host.
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Charles Johnson Mar 21, 2015 7:20:47pm |
When I came home from the airport after the South Africa trip, there was a line of fire trucks all up and down my street, staging a last ditch attempt to stop the fire. My house was literally right next to the last canyon that burned that year.
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retired cynic Mar 21, 2015 7:22:15pm |
re: #8 Charles Johnson
It was an eventful year here, too. We lost our home (farm) in the Great Flood of ‘93 that ravaged the Mississippi and Illinois River valleys. That year aged us 10 years, anyway. Life was ‘before the flood’ and ‘after the flood’!
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William Barnett-Lewis Mar 21, 2015 7:22:52pm |
A tweet I just saw…
Jacques FrostVerified account
@jephjacques
Titles of recent scientific publications on climate change include:
Fuck
Shit
We’re Fucked
Shitting Fuck, We’re Screwed
I Need A Drink
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TedStriker Mar 21, 2015 7:30:05pm |
re: #8 Charles Johnson
And by the way, when I returned to LA from South Africa after another 30+-hour trip, the Malibu firestorm of 1993 was raging, and nearly destroyed my house in Pacific Palisades.
Damn, I graduated high school in ‘93….man, you’re old!
///
It was an eventful year for your blog host.
2010 was mine; my father died from cancer in the beginning in April, then the Great Nashville Flood of 2010 roughly a month later made my newly widowed mother’s house inhabitable, forcing us to tear it down and rebuild it.
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De Kolta Chair Mar 21, 2015 7:42:59pm |
A quid for whomever can squeeze a Jools Holland pun out of this.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mar 21, 2015 7:48:40pm |
re: #13 De Kolta Chair
A quid for whomever can squeeze a Jools Holland pun out of this.
Hey! No squeezing the Jools!
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De Kolta Chair Mar 21, 2015 7:52:28pm |
re: #14 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Hey! No squeezing the Jools!
Being of Irish heritage, I’m going to punt this one.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mar 21, 2015 7:54:46pm |
re: #13 De Kolta Chair
A quid for whomever can squeeze a Jools Holland pun out of this.
I don’t want to know the punishment for failure….
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De Kolta Chair Mar 21, 2015 7:59:46pm |
re: #16 William Barnett-Lewis
I don’t want to know the punishment for failure….
Only one vowel separates scoring a goal from going to gaol.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mar 21, 2015 8:03:47pm |
re: #17 De Kolta Chair
Only one vowel separates scoring a goal from going to gaol.
Best be careful not to score an Own Gaol then…
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 21, 2015 8:19:40pm |
Apropos of nothing in particular except that I just took a quick run to the store and saw 3 or 4 of them: Damn, those Chris Bangle-era BMWs were ugly sonsabitches!
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Lidane Mar 21, 2015 8:27:27pm |
U.S. military has pulled its remaining personnel from Yemen, U.S. State Department said. http://t.co/nAkdKLdkWV— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) March 22, 2015
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Kragar Mar 21, 2015 8:44:09pm |
In the process of cooking dinner,
Cooked up 3 strips of pepper bacon in a pan, added some garlic butter, 3 chicken breasts cubed and some sliced mushrooms. When the chicken is just about done, I’ll add some light alfredo sauce and service it with some fettucine
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jaunte Mar 21, 2015 9:13:17pm |
A @HoustonChron EXCLUSIVE: @TedCruz will announce on Monday that he will run for President of the United States. | http://t.co/jTtrhoaueU
— Teddy Schleifer (@teddyschleifer) March 22, 2015
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TedStriker Mar 21, 2015 9:17:20pm |
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Eclectic Cyborg Mar 21, 2015 9:19:42pm |
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De Kolta Chair Mar 21, 2015 9:21:51pm |
re: #24 jaunte
This is good news for John McCain.
(Still here, forget how to log off the internutz.)
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Eclectic Cyborg Mar 21, 2015 9:23:12pm |
Also I love to travel so touring is something that on the surface appeals to me but I would imagine that for the most part you don’t have any time to actually enjoy and take in the places you visit. Add to that the physical stress of long plane rides, ever changing time zones and widely varying meal schedules multiplies by x number of days a year that you’d. Also you’d be away from your family.
I could see myself doing it for maybe half a year but definitely not something I want to do long term.
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teleskiguy Mar 21, 2015 9:23:31pm |
The snake-oil Senator @tedcruz is announcing his presidential candidacy on Monday, at Liberty University. Open theocrats throwing hats in!— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) March 22, 2015
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jaunte Mar 21, 2015 9:25:50pm |
“David Panton, who is the lead donor for a “super PAC” committed to raising $50 million to back a Cruz presidential bid…”
This is probably the same David Panton who made Cruz $100,000 on a $6,000 investment in “Caribbean Equity Partners Limited”:
swampland.time.com
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De Kolta Chair Mar 21, 2015 9:28:51pm |
re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg
Now hold up! Ted was born in Canada, doesn’t that make him ineligible?
/
In a way that’s kinda too bad since I’d vote for Calgary’s own Leslie Feist for prez of the US any day of the week.
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#FergusonFireside Mar 21, 2015 9:29:33pm |
He's a maverick dog, she is an owl who doesn't play by the rules. Together they fight crime. pic.twitter.com/7mYbvbC58P
— Cute Emergency (@CuteEmergency) March 21, 2015
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jaunte Mar 21, 2015 9:29:51pm |
Should I run for president? Retweet for “YES” Favorite for “Well, duh!”
— Speaker Cruz (@HavanaTed) March 22, 2015
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teleskiguy Mar 21, 2015 9:37:10pm |
.@tedcruz, born in Canada, is running for President of the United States. His father is a full-blown religious whack-a-loon. #TedCruz2016— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) March 22, 2015
Seriously, Rafael Cruz has snakes for brains.
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 21, 2015 9:39:46pm |
Well, I give credit (?) where credit is due—Orly Taitz is going after Ted Cruz’ eligibility, too. She’s a consistent nutjob, you gotta give her that.
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De Kolta Chair Mar 21, 2015 9:43:26pm |
re: #34 teleskiguy
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Seriously, Rafael Cruz has snakes for brains.
“Snakes? Sounds like my kind of guy.” — Jon Voight, professional nutcase| 37 |
teleskiguy Mar 21, 2015 9:49:44pm |
@ChuckCJohnson So hey! Was wondering if you were in Lynchburg to cover your main man for President. Is that your “awesome” plan Ace?— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) March 22, 2015
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Mentis Fugit Mar 21, 2015 9:54:28pm |
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jaunte Mar 21, 2015 9:55:11pm |
Ted Cruz…Liar, Liar. Pants on Fire. Fact Check. #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com/fP5qVZ9D9v
— Benny (@BRios82) March 22, 2015
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#FergusonFireside Mar 21, 2015 10:27:30pm |
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#FergusonFireside Mar 21, 2015 10:46:34pm |
re: #40 #FergusonFireside
I am suffering through Forgetting Sarah Marshall because if I recall, that Vampire play at the end was pretty damn good.
Ah, it was called Dracula’s Lament.
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I hope I’m close.
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Lidane Mar 21, 2015 11:01:58pm |
re: #24 jaunte
Law professor! Inexperienced junior Senator! No executive experience!
Oh wait. Sorry. That only applies to Democrats. Never mind.
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#FergusonFireside Mar 21, 2015 11:07:18pm |
#IfIRuledHell there would be cigarettes everywhere, but no lighters or flames.
— Lee Radziwill (@LeeRadziwill) March 22, 2015
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 1:38:36am |
re: #35 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Well, I give credit (?) where credit is due—Orly Taitz is going after Ted Cruz’ eligibility, too. She’s a consistent nutjob, you gotta give her that.
Dunno. Did she ever go against McCain? I mean, unlike with Obama, there really were legitimate questions about his eligibility. If she didn’t, she couldn’t have really been consistent.
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 22, 2015 2:28:32am |
re: #46 Nyet
Dunno. Did she ever go against McCain? I mean, unlike with Obama, there really were legitimate questions about his eligibility. If she didn’t, she couldn’t have really been consistent.
Well, I was just being snarky, but you’re right, she didn’t go after McCain.
Now mind you, I think he was eligible—both his parents were natural-born citizens, so it doesn’t matter where he was born—but I think he thought what I had thought all my life till this crap hit the fan, that if you were born outside U.S. territory you were disqualified.
That’s why he put out that first bio that said he was born in a hospital in the Canal Zone that wasn’t even there at the time. Now, it doesn’t matter that he was born in Colón—outside the Canal Zone—but putting out that fraudulent bio should have knocked him out of the race, and possibly into Leavensworth.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 2:31:39am |
re: #47 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
-both his parents were natural-born citizens, so it doesn’t matter where he was born
This doesn’t establish eligibility. I’m afraid the US law in this regard is neither simple, nor intuitive.
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge Mar 22, 2015 2:37:16am |
re: #48 Nyet
This doesn’t establish eligibility. I’m afraid the US law in this regard is neither simple, nor intuitive.
As I said, the folklore version that I and most people seem to think applies is that if you were born outside U.S. territory you were ineligible. I’m pretty sure that’s wrong. If even one of your parents is a natural-born citizen, so are you.
But regardless of what the original law may have been, they inaugurated Chester A. Arthur, and they can’t change their minds now.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 2:44:43am |
re: #49 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
I’m not really interested in folklore versions, only in the actual law. As I said, the US law in this regard is neither simple, nor intuitive, exceptions abound as to the place of birth, time of birth, sex of the citizen parent, their time of residence in the US prior to birth and so on. So your simple rule is simply wrong.
One obvious counterexample: if two natural-born citizens, who have never resided in the US, marry and produce a child, she won’t even be a US citizen merely on the account of her parents being NBCs, much less a natural born one.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 3:02:48am |
re: #47 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
That’s why he put out that first bio that said he was born in a hospital in the Canal Zone that wasn’t even there at the time. Now, it doesn’t matter that he was born in Colón—outside the Canal Zone—but putting out that fraudulent bio should have knocked him out of the race, and possibly into Leavensworth.
It would seem that his birth in Colon is but an internet rumor. There is a document disproving it: voices.washingtonpost.com
But ironically, had he been born outside the Canal Zone, there would likely be no question of his eligibility (aside for the folkloric birthers, of course), because it is exactly the quirky status of the Zone - it was beyond the US limits but under the US jurisdiction - that leads to problems. Had he been born in Panama proper, he would have acquired the US citizenship by statute at birth, which would have made him a natural born citizen.
As such, he acquired his citizenship by statute months after his birth, and this leads to all kinds of problems.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 3:25:13am |
Please, no. Not that any of these fascists care about Charlie Hebdo—NF is mostly about being racist fascists, so they’d close down CH in a heartbeat.
Polls are open in France for local elections as Marine le Pen’s National Front hopes for strong showing - @Reuters
end of alert
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 3:35:33am |
re: #53 Nyet
Yeah, and you can expect NF to try to shut down all immigration; well Muslim immigration anyway and anyone from southern climes, like the ME and Africa. I’m sure they think if you’re white, you’re all right.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 3:38:06am |
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 3:46:02am |
Yeah, immigration is what NF is running on, for sure. Fear factor at work.
France polls: A step closer to power for the National Front?
They could borrow those anti-diversity signs in the US shown on a previous thread; #WhiteGenocide
Taken down on Wednesday in Birmingham AL| 57 |
Nyet Mar 22, 2015 3:47:45am |
re: #54 Justanotherhuman
There are no easy answers when it comes to the immigration issues. The European immigration policy has not been very wise, which in turn leads to the rise of the extreme right-wing parties. While “closing the borders” is clearly not a solution, neither is “let everyone in, regardless of culture, background”, etc. E.g. I’ve just read this news item:
The Afghan woman is dragged onto a roof and hit with a stick, as a horde of angry, screaming men swarm around her.
At one point, video shows her standing with her face covered in blood. She is pushed and falls over, and her beating continues with feet, with rocks, with boards. Then, in the last part of the video, her body is engulfed in flames — though it’s not known whether, by that point, she was already dead.
This horrific scene played out in Kabul on Thursday. It’s already had ripple effects, including a United Nations statement on Friday condemning what it called “the brutal killing and burning of a 27-year-old mentally ill woman.”
That corresponds with what the woman’s parents told CNN affiliate Tolo News, saying their daughter suffered from mental health problems for the last 16 years.
It’s not known whether her attackers knew this, or that it would have mattered.
What motivated the mob, according to witnesses, was a belief that the targeted woman had burned the Quran. CNN hasn’t seen any proof that she set a copy ablaze. Afghanistan’s Ministry of Hajj and Religious Affairs has found no such evidence, either, according to Tolo.
edition.cnn.com
So if, say, one has to decide about immigration policy vis a vis Afghanistan, one cannot be blind to background information like this. The checks must be more stringent.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 3:53:07am |
BTW, #WhiteGenocide has been taken over by the “it’s happening in Europe” crowd.
re: #57 Nyet
That’s not proof of anything except mob violence by bloody ignorant people intent on harming someone on the basis of gossip.
We have those in the US as well from people born here. Should we deport our own citizens?
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 3:55:29am |
That’s not proof of anything except mob violence by bloody ignorant people intent on harming someone on the basis of gossip.
To repeat, this is evidence that cannot be ignored when deciding on immigration policy vis a vis Afghanistan.
We have those in the US as well from people born here. Should we deport our own citizens?
I’m not sure what this strawman question has to do with anything.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 4:15:48am |
re: #59 Nyet
It’s not a “strawman question” at all. But I’ll ask another question:
Should we have deported the Tsarnaev brothers before they committed the Boston bombing, even with little or no evidence that they would commit such an act?
Visa Denials:
“An applicant’s current and/or past actions, such as drug or criminal activities, as examples, may make the applicant ineligible for a visa.”
Since people must apply at the US Consul in the country they reside, no doubt especially strict background checks are now done on people from countries in which there is not only war, outright state sponsored and guerilla, but political unrest. Of course, there are some who will slip under the radar, but that happens everywhere.
And there is no accounting for those, or their families, who immigrate to a country under dire conditions, such as seeking asylum, when they are romanced into radical thinking in their adopted country.
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Kragar Mar 22, 2015 4:17:00am |
re: #58 Justanotherhuman
Let me know when they around to PictGenocide and VisigothGenocide
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William Barnett-Lewis Mar 22, 2015 4:17:03am |
So. I have to pick up my son early today. Seems my ex needs to go say goodbye to one of her family’s oldest friends. Her dad was in the Navy in WWII on PM boats hunting U boats off the eastern seaboard. Her mom worked at the War Department and after the war they met the McSorley’s. Dave was a P-51 pilot early on who made the mistake of being too good at it and was kept stateside to train other pilots. His wife died a few years back as did my Father in Law. . Now he has a pneumonia that antibiotics can’t help and he’s home on hospice. That generation is almost gone.
So when you get a chance today, lift a glass and say a toast to absent friends.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 4:21:48am |
re: #60 Justanotherhuman
It’s not a “strawman question” at all.
Actually, it absolutely is. For I didn’t say anything specifically about the US (the principle applies in general), about the US citizens (they are already citizens; whatever they do has nothing to do with the immigration matters) or about deportations.
PS: And in case you didn’t know, the US cannot deport its citizens in any case.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 4:24:17am |
It appears Richard III was no giant of a man…
No ordinary day. The mortal remains of #RichardIII - a medieval King of England, at @uniofleicester #richardreburied pic.twitter.com/gaOk7dqt8G
— Richard Vernalls (@rvernallsPA) March 22, 2015
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Timothy Watson Mar 22, 2015 4:27:40am |
re: #64 Justanotherhuman
It appears Richard III was no giant of a man…
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Any reason for the simple casket?
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 4:38:27am |
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 4:42:32am |
re: #66 Justanotherhuman
Yes, we have deported our own citizens.
The Deportation Machine’
You are jumping from topic to topic. I have no doubt that illegal or mistaken deportations have occurred. That’s not at all what we were talking about in the first place. But whatever.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 4:56:52am |
re: #67 Nyet
No, not at all, I was simply asking questions and making statements to beg your own statements: “So if, say, one has to decide about immigration policy vis a vis Afghanistan, one cannot be blind to background information like this. The checks must be more stringent.”
Two State Dept notices concerning Afghans:
I would think they are very thorough in Kabul about background checks since they even do DNA testing for relatives: kabul.usembassy.gov
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BeenHereAwhile Mar 22, 2015 4:57:55am |
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 4:58:21am |
Woman killed by a mob in Kabul for allegedly burning Quran was innocent, investigator says - @Reuters
end of alert
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 5:06:23am |
7 Brooklyn family members who were killed in fire to be buried in Jerusalem - @haaretzcom
end of alert
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The Mother Of All Pies Mar 22, 2015 5:16:27am |
re: #71 Justanotherhuman
7 Brooklyn family members who were killed in fire to be buried in Jerusalem - @haaretzcom
end of alert
Check your smoke detectors.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 5:21:53am |
re: #72 The Mother Of All Pies
This wasn’t the first time it’s happened, evidently, in other fires in Brooklyn. haaretz.com
“Responding to the danger of Sabbath and holiday fires, New York City fire officials were reported in the New York Times to be on the street where this weekend’s fire occurred, hours after the blaze, handing out safety literature and fresh batteries for smoke detectors. The Times noted that none of the target audience were taking the literature or the batteries because Sabbath restrictions forbade it.”
From your linked story:
“Many religious Jews do not use electricity on the Sabbath, along with refraining from work and observing other prohibitions meant to keep the day holy. As a result, some families may leave them on so they are usable without violating any religious laws or traditions.”
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 5:25:42am |
re: #68 Justanotherhuman
And your question about deportation of US citizens was a red herring, as I have already explained. It had nothing to do with my initial point. And your last comment about deportation was a red herring on top of the red herring, because while the US govt. makes mistakes, it is still not allowed to knowingly and legally deport a US citizen.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 5:31:14am |
The New York Review of Books doesn’t mince words:
Benjamin Netanyahu has won again. He will have no difficulty putting together a solid right-wing coalition. But the naked numbers may be deceptive. What really counts is the fact that the Israeli electorate is still dominated by hypernationalist, in some cases proto-fascist, figures. It is in no way inclined to make peace. It has given a clear mandate for policies that preclude any possibility of moving toward a settlement with the Palestinians and that will further deepen Israel’s colonial venture in the Palestinian territories, probably irreversibly.
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William Barnett-Lewis Mar 22, 2015 5:31:35am |
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The Mother Of All Pies Mar 22, 2015 5:33:28am |
re: #73 Justanotherhuman
This wasn’t the first time it’s happened, evidently, in other fires in Brooklyn. haaretz.com
“Responding to the danger of Sabbath and holiday fires, New York City fire officials were reported in the New York Times to be on the street where this weekend’s fire occurred, hours after the blaze, handing out safety literature and fresh batteries for smoke detectors. The Times noted that none of the target audience were taking the literature or the batteries because Sabbath restrictions forbade it.”
From your linked story:
“Many religious Jews do not use electricity on the Sabbath, along with refraining from work and observing other prohibitions meant to keep the day holy. As a result, some families may leave them on so they are usable without violating any religious laws or traditions.”
We use a crock pot and I have an oven with “Sabbath mode.” I don’t even use the “Sabbath mode” setting, on a regular Sabbath I use the “Cook and Hold” setting which switched the oven off at the set time.
“Sabbath mode” setting is actually used on holidays which can last for 2-3 days.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 5:34:12am |
re: #74 Nyet
That’s OK. I’ve always said I’m here to learn. And I learn something new every day.
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Varek Raith Mar 22, 2015 5:34:45am |
Dammit.
Make sure you have smoke detectors.
If you do, test them routinely.
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The Mother Of All Pies Mar 22, 2015 5:37:37am |
What really drives me crazy is when families light Hanukkah candles and then put them on a low table where small children can get to them.
DON’T FUCKING DO THAT!!!
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The Mother Of All Pies Mar 22, 2015 5:39:24am |
These attackers appear to be BNP or UKIP
London - Anti-Semitic Attackers Yelling 'We Will Kill You' Storm Synagogue in Stamford Hill http://t.co/WfRrOpQ72z— VosIzNeias (@VINNews) March 22, 2015
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 5:40:34am |
re: #77 The Mother Of All Pies
I have a fear of fires. I wouldn’t use a crock pot for years when others were leaving them during the day cooking while at work. It wasn’t until I could monitor them in person that I started using them, even today, if I’m going out, I turn them off. : )
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 22, 2015 5:41:36am |
Al-Khwarizmi gave us our numerals, which are ideograms. The number of angles in a figure determines its value | pic.twitter.com/RUv2N2oY5K— Mike Doran (@Doranimated) March 22, 2015
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 5:44:01am |
re: #81 The Mother Of All Pies
These attackers appear to be BNP or UKIP
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Horrible.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 5:47:58am |
re: #78 Justanotherhuman
When I’m not joking around on LGF, I assume my words are taken literally. There is nothing to read between the lines. If I say that this or that should be a factor in immigration policy, it’s just that. I’m not “hinting” that no Afghan citizens should be accepted or that they should be deported. It does mean what I said: criteria can - and should - vary depending on the country when it comes to immigration decisions. If one disagrees, one should disagree with what I am actually saying.
To take a more neutral example which involves mostly white non-Muslims for simplicity’s sake: Russia is a dictatorship with a mostly brainwashed population, while Canada is a vibrant democracy. It is my position that criteria for Canadian citizens wishing to immigrate can - and should - be different from the criteria for Russian citizens.
It is obviously not the only factor to take into account. Others would be whether a candidate belongs to a minority likely to be persecuted, etc.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 6:05:07am |
“Apology” not accepted.
Mayoral Candidate Apologizes For Performing In Black Face
Meh…
“I don’t see myself as being racist, I’ve got great, great friends who are African American,” he added.”
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The Mother Of All Pies Mar 22, 2015 6:28:13am |
This is the “New Normal” for professionals:
You should always keep looking for a new job even, ESPECIALLY while you are working.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 22, 2015 6:45:31am |
No apology from Governor LePage. Some guys are a lot better at dishing it out than taking it back.
— Stephen King (@StephenKing) March 22, 2015
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Targetpractice Mar 22, 2015 6:46:36am |
Havana Ted expected to make his candidacy official on Monday, followed by total silence from wingnuts about birth certificates.
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thedopefishlives Mar 22, 2015 6:46:38am |
Morning Lizardim from the wild north country. Impending doom is hanging over our heads - the forecast is officially between 5 and 8 inches of that cursed white fluffy stuff before tomorrow morning. Looks like I need to make sure the snowblower is fueled and ready to go one last time. How go things among the lizardfolk on this cold, blustery, overcast day of doom?
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thedopefishlives Mar 22, 2015 6:47:14am |
re: #90 Targetpractice
Havana Ted expected to make his candidacy official on Monday, followed by total silence from wingnuts about birth certificates.
Remember, rules only apply to Democrats. Republicans are allowed to do what they want because they’re the Party of America, dammit.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 6:51:27am |
re: #90 Targetpractice
Havana Ted expected to make his candidacy official on Monday, followed by total silence from wingnuts about birth certificates.
WND’s Farah has already stated that Cruz is ineligible, but to heck with it, since “the Dems do it too”.
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thedopefishlives Mar 22, 2015 6:52:12am |
re: #93 Nyet
WND’s Farah has already stated that Cruz is ineligible, but to heck with it, since “the Dems do it too”.
Heh, even the wingnuts don’t pay attention to WND. That’s gotta sting.
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Targetpractice Mar 22, 2015 6:53:34am |
It’s just going to be hilarious to watch a Canadian-born Cuban argue that he’s totally a “natural-born American” for the purposes of running for the presidency. Look for all those birther arguments of yesteryear to suddenly disappear.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 6:56:36am |
re: #95 Targetpractice
Orly’s response is the same as Farah’s:
When I see such complete lawlessness in the court of law, my response in regards to Ted Cruz, that it does not matter any more, whether the candidate is eligible. We have no rule of law any more.
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thedopefishlives Mar 22, 2015 6:59:30am |
re: #96 Nyet
Orly’s response is the same as Farah’s:
And so the double standard is revealed for all to see. Where’s the birth certificate, Orly? Oh, it doesn’t matter because he’s not black and not a Democrat.
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Lidane Mar 22, 2015 7:00:40am |
re: #90 Targetpractice
Havana Ted expected to make his candidacy official on Monday, followed by total silence from wingnuts about birth certificates.
Total silence about birth certificates, law professors, inexperienced junior Senators with no executive experience, etc.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 7:05:58am |
re: #97 thedopefishlives
They think they are going with “what’s good for the goose” approach, but it’s really more akin to “two wrongs will make a right”.
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wrenchwench Mar 22, 2015 7:08:54am |
Study Shows America Has Become More Tolerant of Every Group — Except One by @MarcieBianco http://t.co/dfY0lU2BiO via @MicNews— Larry Cooper (@coopah) March 22, 2015
The one thing we’re not tolerant of? Racists.
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 7:09:29am |
re: #69 BeenHereAwhile
A band from Athens - Athens Alabama - that is:
(Ya gotta listen, for one minute at least, until you hear her voice)
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Morning all!
I was unfamiliar with Alabama Shakes until I caught them on Saturday Night Live.
They are damn good. Yeah, she has a big voice!
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 22, 2015 7:11:16am |
re: #102 Nyet
The US citizenship laws are a bit mind-numbing.
But we all know about terrorist anchor babies…
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Lidane Mar 22, 2015 7:13:10am |
re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
But we all know about terrorist anchor babies…
With Ebola!
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wrenchwench Mar 22, 2015 7:13:43am |
re: #102 Nyet
The US citizenship laws are a bit mind-numbing.
I have words right now for people who swear deportation and immigration issues aren't super fucking traumatic None of them good— Sydette (@Blackamazon) March 22, 2015
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The Mother Of All Pies Mar 22, 2015 7:15:36am |
What Dim Jim doesn’t mention:
The “youth gangs” who attacked the synagogue were drunken white guys, not Muslims.
VIDEO>>> YOUTH GANG Attacks & Vandalizes London Synagogue Screaming “We Will Kill You!” http://t.co/bqaNPKJYSa via @gatewaypundit— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) March 22, 2015
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Doofus Mar 22, 2015 7:17:14am |
Does your Apple store smell like exploded capacitors!?
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mar 22, 2015 7:17:55am |
re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Some folk etymologies have argued that the original forms of these symbols indicated their value through the number of angles they contained, but no evidence exists of any such origin.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 7:21:41am |
re: #105 wrenchwench
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Especially for people who consider themselves for all purposes Americans. I know someone who is the type that the right wing nutjobs would be eager to deport if Obama hadn’t done his EO.
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 7:21:59am |
Watching a local Columbus Politics show (comes on before Meet The Chuck) and they are kicking around the fact that John Kasich (Ohio Governor) is looking into a presidential run.
Ugh!
Oh by the way…I might try to gag down Meet The Chuck today. All the hubbub regarding the U.S. and Obama versus Israel and Netanyahu with what is going on in Yemen looks to be a case for a powder-keg of a show. Add in Teddy Cruz and well…Bad TV!
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Lidane Mar 22, 2015 7:24:01am |
re: #110 ObserverArt
McCain Blasts Obama on Israel: 'Get Over Your Temper Tantrum' http://t.co/VbcZuSq7Y7 (VIDEO) pic.twitter.com/0ke2fJn5MX— Mediaite (@Mediaite) March 22, 2015
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 7:24:05am |
re: #110 ObserverArt
Watching a local Columbus Politics show (comes on before Meet The Chuck) and they are kicking around the fact that John Kasich (Ohio Governor) is looking into a presidential run.
Ugh!
Oh by the way…I might try to gag down Meet The Chuck today. All the hubbub regarding the U.S. and Obama versus Israel and Netanyahu with what is going on in Yemen looks to be a case for a powder-keg of a show. Add in Teddy Cruz and well…Bad TV!
Is there room in the clown car for him?
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 7:25:02am |
re: #111 Lidane
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I can’t even get upset at that because McCain lacks any self awareness at all.
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 7:26:03am |
re: #112 HappyWarrior
Is there room in the clown car for him?
I think the GOP bought an old Airstream trailer to tow around the extras.
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Targetpractice Mar 22, 2015 7:26:31am |
re: #111 Lidane
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Another day, another reason to regret ever voting for that moron.
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thedopefishlives Mar 22, 2015 7:26:48am |
re: #114 ObserverArt
I think the GOP bought an old Airstream trailer to tow around the extras.
I was almost certain they were driving a bus. Makes it more convenient when they need to throw someone under it.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 7:27:29am |
re: #111 Lidane
From the guy who showed such good judgment in foisting Saruh Palin on the world.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 7:27:49am |
re: #115 Targetpractice
Another day, another reason to regret ever voting for that moron.
At least you regret it. McCain has never even shown so much a sign of regret for his actions that election.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 7:28:19am |
re: #108 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
Unsourced twitter memes are often bullshit. Esp. if they’re feel-good. That said, an unsourced paragraph from wiki is not much better.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 7:28:36am |
re: #117 Justanotherhuman
From the guy who showed such good judgment in foisting Saruh Palin on the world.
And whom is known for his temper tantrums. Really fuck the GOP and fuck Bibi too.
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 7:28:53am |
Regarding the local Columbus political show…they were talking about a referendum being drawn up for legalizing pot in Ohio. Of course the Republican bozo had to go scary and talk about pot being the…
“Gateway Drug™” that paves the road to hell!!!
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thedopefishlives Mar 22, 2015 7:29:10am |
re: #119 Nyet
Unsourced twitter memes are often bullshit. Esp. if they’re feel-good. That said, an unsourced paragraph from wiki is not much better.
I’ve seen a number of cases where conspiracy theorists will edit Wikipedia, snapshot the page, and post it on the forum formerly known as JREF to say, “Look, Wikipedia agrees with me!” The edit history is usually pretty revealing.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 7:29:24am |
re: #121 ObserverArt
Regarding the local Columbus political show…they were talking about a referendum being drawn up for legalizing pot in Ohio. Of course the Republican bozo had to go scary and talk about pot being the…
“Gateway DrugTM” that paves the road to hell!!!
Voting Republican is more dangerous for you than smoking pot yet it shouldn’t be criminalized.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 7:30:35am |
Another “pearl” from the necklace of wisdom of John McCain (there are probably only a few left at this point):
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.: Congress should reconsider funding for UN if Security Council passes resolution on Palestinian statehood - @CNNSOTU
end of alert
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mar 22, 2015 7:30:55am |
re: #119 Nyet
Unsourced twitter memes are often bullshit. Esp. if they’re feel-good. That said, an unsourced paragraph from wiki is not much better.
True. I wanted a better source but couldn’t find one quickly. That’s why I also included the graphic.
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 7:31:06am |
re: #116 thedopefishlives
I was almost certain they were driving a bus. Makes it more convenient when they need to throw someone under it.
That is true. but with an old trailer they can say the hitch broke or something when it breaks off and goes careening down an embankment in New Hampshire or South Carolina.
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Targetpractice Mar 22, 2015 7:31:07am |
McCain seems to have spent the last six years nursing a grudge, not simply against the President, but against the nation for not seeing how great a president he could be.
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Targetpractice Mar 22, 2015 7:32:05am |
re: #124 Justanotherhuman
Another “pearl” from the necklace of wisdom of John McCain (there are probably only a few left at this point):
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.: Congress should reconsider funding for UN if Security Council passes resolution on Palestinian statehood - @CNNSOTU
end of alert
Petulant child.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 7:32:19am |
re: #127 Targetpractice
McCain seems to have spent the last six years nursing a grudge, not simply against the President, but against the nation for not seeing how great a president he could be.
He’s a child.Should have retired.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 7:32:48am |
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Timothy Watson Mar 22, 2015 7:32:52am |
re: #102 Nyet
The US citizenship laws are a bit mind-numbing.
Not a fan of Reason Magazine but they made this great cartoon awhile back.
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Lidane Mar 22, 2015 7:34:01am |
Seems appropriate that of all people Ted Cruz wld skip the exploratory committee, the notional period of examination and self-reflection.— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) March 22, 2015
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Belafon Mar 22, 2015 7:34:19am |
re: #119 Nyet
Unsourced twitter memes are often bullshit. Esp. if they’re feel-good. That said, an unsourced paragraph from wiki is not much better.
That particular wikipedia page looks pretty well sourced. There’s a decent number of references.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 7:34:48am |
So hope this is for real but if ISIS is calling on radicals in other countries to commit assassinations, perhaps it is. That’s an act of desperation, I think, simply to stir shit up.
CIA Director Brennan says Islamic State momentum inside Syria and Iraq has been blunted - @Reuters
end of alert
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 7:35:08am |
re: #133 Belafon
That particular wikipedia page looks pretty well sourced. There’s a decent number of references.
That’s why I wrote “paragraph”, not “page”. ;)
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 7:36:22am |
re: #131 Timothy Watson
Not a fan of Reason Magazine but they made this great cartoon awhile back.
People are often under impression that some simple formula settles things. “Both parents were citizens, so of course the child is a natural born citizen!”. Uh, not so fast…
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mar 22, 2015 7:36:56am |
re: #133 Belafon
That particular wikipedia page looks pretty well sourced. There’s a decent number of references.
But Sergey’s right, the specific statement about folk etymologies is not sourced. It looks like it might be, but the footnote leads to a Scribd example of the “angle” myth, not authoritative and not a debunking.
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Belafon Mar 22, 2015 7:40:23am |
re: #137 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
But Sergey’s right, the specific statement about folk etymologies is not sourced. It looks like it might be, but the footnote leads to a Scribd example of the “angle” myth, not authoritative and not a debunking.
Ok. I assumed that it was just a simplification of an image further down in the wikidpedia entry, the one by French scholar J.E. Montucla,
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 7:40:24am |
re: #137 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
I mean, it’s obvious that’s a legend. But one could doubt even the graphic, if only for rhetorical purposes (after all, al-Khwarezmi’s numbers “might have” been different from the later literally Arabic numbers in that chart; though of course such an explanation is not parsimonious).
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darthstar Mar 22, 2015 7:44:02am |
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mar 22, 2015 7:44:44am |
re: #139 Nyet
I mean, it’s obvious that’s a legend. But one could doubt even the graphic, if only for rhetorical purposes (after all, al-Khwarezmi’s numbers “might have” been different from the later literally Arabic numbers in that chart; though of course such an explanation is not parsimonious).
One can doubt pretty much everything, if only for rhetorical purposes.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 7:46:40am |
re: #142 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
One can doubt pretty much everything, if only for rhetorical purposes.
I doubt it.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 7:47:17am |
NATO Commander: West Must Fight Russia in Information ‘War’
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mar 22, 2015 7:47:41am |
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Patricia Kayden Mar 22, 2015 7:48:13am |
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 7:49:45am |
re: #146 Patricia Kayden
Maybe they were drunk, but they and their actions were also virulently antisemitic.
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darthstar Mar 22, 2015 7:50:34am |
The look on Brown’s face also indicates that Chuck Todd is unfit to be an interviewer.
Jerry Brown: Cruz 'Absolutely Unfit to Be Running for Office' http://t.co/tlIRz8YHIB (VIDEO) pic.twitter.com/RK3MbwemAy— Mediaite (@Mediaite) March 22, 2015
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 7:51:28am |
re: #149 darthstar
The look on Brown’s face also indicates that Chuck Todd is unfit to be an interviewer.
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Cruz is unfit for any office. Good on Jerry Brown for calling that creep out.
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Targetpractice Mar 22, 2015 7:58:18am |
The GOP’s candidate field is either under investigation or legally unable to run for the presidency.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 8:01:18am |
Heh. In St. Petersburg.
Bomb threat at International Russian Conservative Forum. Room evacuated. Police on its way.
— Gabrielle T-F (@gabrielletf) March 22, 2015
Commenter: “Yes, the place is now being fumigated as we speak.”
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Lidane Mar 22, 2015 8:01:26am |
re: #151 Targetpractice
The GOP’s candidate field is either under investigation or legally unable to run for the presidency.
At least they allow competition unlike the Democrat party!
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 22, 2015 8:01:51am |
#recap This kid will go far http://t.co/7055ga2YrB pic.twitter.com/GDYbu3e33x— The Poke (@ThePoke) March 22, 2015
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Targetpractice Mar 22, 2015 8:05:15am |
I think what gets me about McCain’s remarks is that it’s the boomerang shit. “When the President says mean things about Bibi, that’s a temper tantrum! When we cut UN funding because they do something we don’t like, that’s not a temper tantrum!”
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 8:06:02am |
Heh…on Meet The Chuck Gerry Brown is calling out Ted Cruz over climate science. Claims it makes Cruz “unfit for office!”
That is not all that makes Cruz unfit for office.
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darthstar Mar 22, 2015 8:06:52am |
Every Claim In This Senator Ted Cruz Statement Is Completely False http://t.co/ikSoNto9Ag via @thinkprogress— Donna Brazile (@donnabrazile) March 22, 2015
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 8:08:05am |
re: #148 Justanotherhuman
Maybe they were drunk, but they and their actions were also virulently antisemitic.
All being drunk does is strip away the cheap veneer hiding the real thought.
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darthstar Mar 22, 2015 8:08:48am |
I never retweet these things, but this one is funny.
#TedCruz is running for president. RT if you think he's a joke. pic.twitter.com/bdcDwFTVi0— Bipartisan Report (@Bipartisanism) March 22, 2015
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b_sharp Mar 22, 2015 8:09:18am |
Apologies my friends for calling some of you assholes. I’m afraid the only asshole on LGF is the one I see when I look in the mirror.
I value LGF as a refuge from the harshness of reality primarily because of the diversity of opinion here that gives me a unique insight into other belief systems, some of which I agree with and some of which I don’t. I’ve learned a lot from people here and my views of others have moderated considerably as I’ve learned. One of the most valuable lessons I’ve learned is that people are not monolithic in their beliefs and that they too can change through the lessons taught by contact with other ideas.
I would hate to lose that environment but when I see members of LGF being personally attacked because of their differing ideals and even actions, the potential for creeping tribalism becomes apparent. LGF is a harsh place for the debate between ideas, as it should be. If you have an idea that you believe is truth, you should be able to defend it with logic & valid facts. However, demanding others conform to your ideals isn’t debate. It’s a way of creating a division between the ‘good’ guys and the ‘bad’ guys. It demonizes LGF members who are not trolls.
Is that really what we want to do?
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Targetpractice Mar 22, 2015 8:09:53am |
Personally, I think anyone who feels the government should not work and is a bad thing should be disqualified for holding any government office. But that would wipe out at least 95% of the GOP, so unfortunately we can’t apply that rule.
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 8:13:16am |
Oh, by the way. Fuck Rich Lowery.
That is all.
Ha, Helene Cooper said she (can’t believe she is saying this…and she won’t be saying it again) agreed with Lowery on Cruz having a hard road.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:13:57am |
re: #158 darthstar
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Maybe he should ask the fairy to make him a real Senator instead of a right wing hack.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 8:14:11am |
What? So this is the strategy now? First, the US, now France? Who’s next?
Israel reaches out to France before resumption of Iran nuclear talks - @Reuters
end of alert
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:15:27am |
re: #162 Targetpractice
Personally, I think anyone who feels the government should not work and is a bad thing should be disqualified for holding any government office. But that would wipe out at least 95% of the GOP, so unfortunately we can’t apply that rule.
I mean in the past you had disagreement about how the government should work but now the argument the GOP/right want to have is about government at all. These guys would be retrograde in Bismarck’s Germany. Even a conservative like Bismarck saw the need for some social welfare.
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BeenHereAwhile Mar 22, 2015 8:16:23am |
re: #162 Targetpractice
Personally, I think anyone who feels the government should not work and is a bad thing should be disqualified for holding any government office. But that would wipe out at least 95% of the GOP, so unfortunately we can’t apply that rule.
Great campaign slogan:
“Elect me and I will do nothing.”
(But I’ll still expect congressional salary, healthcare, and all the other congressional perks - sorta like a protection racket)
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:17:05am |
cracked.com
I’m not really good with pages but this was a damn good read.
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BigPapa Mar 22, 2015 8:17:13am |
Speaking of government ‘working’ (term applied loosely), you gotta see this shit.
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Dr Lizardo Mar 22, 2015 8:17:37am |
re: #159 ObserverArt
All being drunk does is strip away the cheap veneer hiding the real thought.
In Vino Veritas.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 8:17:40am |
re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth
Yes, really, and (s)he should get the full points.
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Romantic Heretic Mar 22, 2015 8:17:43am |
re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Summed up the teahadis in a single sentence.
Bullies, the lot of them.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 8:18:35am |
re: #162 Targetpractice
Personally, I think anyone who feels the government should not work and is a bad thing should be disqualified for holding any government office. But that would wipe out at least 95% of the GOP, so unfortunately we can’t apply that rule.
“Or can we? Bwahahaha!”
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:18:40am |
re: #167 BeenHereAwhile
Great campaign slogan:
“Elect me and I will do nothing.”
(But I’ll still expect congressional salary, healthcare, and all the other congressional perks - sorta like a protection racket)
I remember there being one GOPer on Maryland’s eastern shore (Conservative part of the state for those curious). Anyhow guy was running against a Democrat who got swept into office due to the Obama wave in 2008. So this guy wins in large part due to the anti-ACA rage. One of the first things the guy asks for and this is before he’s even to be swore in is for the health insurance perks that Congressmen get.
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darthstar Mar 22, 2015 8:18:52am |
re: #162 Targetpractice
Personally, I think anyone who feels the government should not work and is a bad thing should be disqualified for holding any government office. But that would wipe out at least 95% of the GOP, so unfortunately we can’t apply that rule.
I think one should be forced to resign from one office before persuing another. You can’t serve in the Senate and campaign full time. Get the fuck out and let someone else do that job.
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Decatur Deb Mar 22, 2015 8:19:05am |
re: #169 BigPapa
Speaking of government ‘working’ (term applied loosely), you gotta see this shit.
That’s very hep.
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BigPapa Mar 22, 2015 8:20:06am |
3. The problem is that when our immigration laws aren’t enforced, it encourages more illegal immigration and causes the system to implode. Not cool.
US House Judiciary Committee speaking in Bro.
Only Bro douchebags and hipsters, and me, are allowed to speak in Bro.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:20:17am |
My problem with conservatives is they rag on how the government doesn’t work for things like education, health care, etc but they want it being used for things like the death penalty, wars, and prisons. They’re not anti-government really at all. They’re against the government being used to better people’s lots but a okay with it being used to punish people.
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Romantic Heretic Mar 22, 2015 8:21:16am |
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Lidane Mar 22, 2015 8:21:58am |
Freepers are falling all over themselves re: Ted Cruz running for POTUS:
YES! CRUZ / PALIN 2016
—Cruz or lose
—Ted Cruz = the Texan worthy of the conservative vote!
Go Ted!
—Once again it will be MORNING IN AMERICA!!!
—Good
Run hard son
Find money
You’re gonna need it
Forget all media but Fox
You need to conquer Fox
—This is great news!
I would vote for Cruz or Walker in a minute!
—Not that they haven’t already attacked this wonderful man, but after he makes an official announcement, look for our shameful media and gutless POTUS to wage an all out assault on this fine man.
May God Bless, Protect, and Equip this fine man.
—We can thank Sarah Palin for this. Ted Cruz thanked her for her support, otherwise he would not be Senator today.
Cruz, like Palin, have that Reagan like quality of unbridled love for America.
—YES YES!! Make Tom Cotton his running mate as well!
—The only thing though is I hope he doesn’t run as a Republican because they are going to do everything they can to destroy him so they can insert their token RINO. Remember what they did to Herman Cain, all the women they dragged out from under the rocks, none of which ever presented one shred of proof. These pieces of rat slime will make up anything to destroy him and Cruz can deny it all he wants, but the RINO party in conjunction with the Treason party and the media will promote is as true, constantly until he drops out. That’s why he has to run as an independent. Both these parties, the Treason party and the RINO party are parties run by enemies of this country and Cruz would be wise to not join them but confront these corrupt pieces of rat filth head on, expose THEM for once as THEY are the cause of all our problems.
—You don’t send a Superstar to the minor leagues. You bring him up to the majors and get out of the way while he makes history.
Ted Cruz is destined to be President and nothing can stop that from happening.
This is going to be hilarious.
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 8:23:00am |
re: #161 b_sharp
Apologies my friends for calling some of you assholes. I’m afraid the only asshole on LGF is the one I see when I look in the mirror.
I value LGF as a refuge from the harshness of reality primarily because of the diversity of opinion here that gives me a unique insight into other belief systems, some of which I agree with and some of which I don’t. I’ve learned a lot from people here and my views of others have moderated considerably as I’ve learned. One of the most valuable lessons I’ve learned is that people are not monolithic in their beliefs and that they too can change through the lessons taught by contact with other ideas.
I would hate to lose that environment but when I see members of LGF being personally attacked because of their differing ideals and even actions, the potential for creeping tribalism becomes apparent. LGF is a harsh place for the debate between ideas, as it should be. If you have an idea that you believe is truth, you should be able to defend it with logic & valid facts. However, demanding others conform to your ideals isn’t debate. It’s a way of creating a division between the ‘good’ guys and the ‘bad’ guys. It demonizes LGF members who are not trolls.
Is that really what we want to do?
No.
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Decatur Deb Mar 22, 2015 8:26:54am |
re: #180 Lidane
Freepers are falling all over themselves re: Ted Cruz running for POTUS:
This is going to be hilarious.
A lot of people don’t like him, but I thought Far and Away was good and his two recent sci-fi flicks were really well done.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 8:28:54am |
re: #183 Decatur Deb
That brings up some memories… We watched the movie in our English class.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:29:35am |
re: #183 Decatur Deb
A lot of people don’t like him, but I thought Far and Away was good and his two recent sci-fi flicks were really well done.
I liked him better as Grandpa Munster in the original Munsters. (I’m not seeing Tom Cruise like you are.)
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Decatur Deb Mar 22, 2015 8:30:10am |
re: #185 HappyWarrior
I liked him better as Grandpa Munster in the original Addams Family. (I’m not seeing Tom Cruise like you are.)
Oh. “Cruz”? Never mind.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:30:19am |
re: #184 Nyet
That brings up some memories… We watched the movie in our English class.
Never saw it but it’s my understanding that Cruise uses one of the worst Irish accents ever on film.
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Lidane Mar 22, 2015 8:30:39am |
re: #183 Decatur Deb
A lot of people don’t like him, but I thought Far and Away was good and his two recent sci-fi flicks were really well done.
He was great in Tropic Thunder. Still, that whole Xenu thing gets in the way of any real enjoyment I get out of his films.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:30:54am |
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:32:28am |
re: #188 Lidane
He was great in Tropic Thunder. Still, that whole Xenu thing gets in the way of any real enjoyment I get out of his films.
If he weren’t so obnoxious about it and yeah Les Grossman was one of the best parts of Tropic Thunder. I need a new copy of that.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 8:33:52am |
Never confuse Havana Ted with Teegeeack Tom. It’s insulting to both.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Mar 22, 2015 8:37:27am |
Ted Cruz will kick off his “Begging for money for a product he will never build” campaign this Monday. #IndieGoGoAway— Lizz Winstead (@lizzwinstead) March 22, 2015
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 8:38:01am |
If Obama is a Kenyan Muslim Socialist isn’t Cruz a Cuban Catholic Commie???!!!
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(Just getting in a little practice…)
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:38:56am |
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darthstar Mar 22, 2015 8:39:39am |
Cuban-Canadian anchor baby is running for President. Thanks Obama.— Ignacio Carrion (@igcarr) March 22, 2015
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Romantic Heretic Mar 22, 2015 8:40:22am |
re: #180 Lidane
Ted Cruz is destined to be President and nothing can stop that from happening.
I suspect that annoying thing called an ‘election’ can.
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Decatur Deb Mar 22, 2015 8:42:12am |
re: #198 darthstar
Cuban-Canadian anchor baby is running for President. Thanks Obama.
If he gets elected, that will be two presidents in a row who were the sons of Marxist anti-colonialist freedom fighters. For real.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:42:28am |
Cruz is going to be exposed in the primaries. He thinks the “liberal media” is tough wait until he has to hear it from his fellow Republicans that he isn’t as great as he thinks he is. it’s funny. On the surface, Cruz is similar to what Obama was eight years ago but the difference is Obama was constructive during his time in the senate and not a demeagouge pandering to the lowest common denominator.
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BigPapa Mar 22, 2015 8:44:05am |
re: #193 Nyet
Scary, right?
We all know if a US wingnut made that speech he would get called out for it. Then celebrated as a hero by the wingnut base.
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allegro Mar 22, 2015 8:46:30am |
There is Mourning Dove porn happening on the tree branch outside my window.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:46:47am |
re: #202 BigPapa
We all know if a US wingnut made that speech he would get called out for it. Then celebrated as a hero by the wingnut base.
I think it’s really easy to see and I have no doubt Obama has seen that video is a big part of why Obama is so pissed off at Bibi. Bibi has shown time and time again that he cares more about power and pandering to bigotry than he does finding real solutions to the problems his country faces.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 8:48:31am |
Again, this is nothing new for Netanyahu.
Israel’s growing demographic problem is not because of Palestinians, but of Israeli Arabs, Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said yesterday.
Speaking at the Herzliya Conference on security, Netanyahu said Israel had already freed itself from control of almost all Palestinian Arabs. He said he could not foresee a future in which “any sane Israeli” could try to make Palestinians either Israeli citizens or “enslaved subjects.” The Palestinians would under all circumstances rule themselves and administer their own affairs, he said.
“If there is a demographic problem, and there is, it is with the Israeli Arabs who will remain Israeli citizens,” he said. The Declaration of Independence said Israel should be a Jewish and democratic state, but to ensure the Jewish character was not engulfed by demography, it was necessary to ensure a Jewish majority, he said.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:51:16am |
re: #205 Nyet
Again, this is nothing new for Netanyahu.
He makes Israel hard to defend. because of shit like that. That’s not say I feel Israel is an Apartheid state but I do feel Bibi fuels anti-Israel ammo through his own actions and rhetoric.
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BigPapa Mar 22, 2015 8:51:30am |
Israel is definitely the Third Rail of US politics. Uber polarizing.
Even before his infamous speech before Congress the right wing AM radio squawkers were already speaking to it’s greatness and wonderfulness and if you didn’t like it you were either a terrorist or symp.
To criticize Israel is to support terrorism, essentially.
It’s been this way for as long as I can remember.
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 8:52:18am |
Do we even know if Cruz has an actual brain and an original thought?
All he has been is a slick used car salesmen on weekdays and a dime store preacher on weekends spewing crazy crap nutty people want to hear.
Everything he has done politically has blown up in his face, embarrassed his own party and he acts like he never cut the fart as he even distances himself from his own bull.
But, it will be fun to watch him under real pressure. I think he is going to try to BS and dance his way out of any trouble but all it will do is expose his phony ass.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:53:09am |
re: #207 BigPapa
Israel is definitely the Third Rail of US politics. Uber polarizing.
Even before his infamous speech before Congress the right wing AM radio squawkers were already speaking to it’s greatness and wonderfulness and if you didn’t like it you were either a terrorist or symp.
To criticize Israel is to support terrorism, essentially.
It’s been this way for as long as I can remember.
Yep and what’s also pathetic is how American wingnuts (mostly non-Jewish) concern troll american Jewish voters for being mostly left or center in their voting and ideological patterns. I’m not Jewish but I’m well aware that the theological/ideological ancestors of many of the people who profess to love Israel now were rabid antisemites not that long ago.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 8:53:51am |
And if you think Bibi lied to the wingnuts but in his heart supports the two-state solution, think again. Here’s an assortment of quotes:
“He doesn’t support [a Palestinian State]. He supports [proposing] the sorts of conditions that they [the Arabs] will never accept.” —Benzion Netanyahu, father of Benjamin Netanyahu, in Hebrew, July 9, 2009
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:54:45am |
re: #208 ObserverArt
Do we even know if Cruz has an actual brain and an original thought?
All he has been is a slick used car salesmen on weekdays and a dime store preacher on weekends spewing crazy crap nutty people want to hear.
Everything he has done politically has blown up in his face, embarrassed his own party and he acts like he never cut the fart as he even distances himself from his own bull.
But, it will be fun to watch him under real pressure. I think he is going to try to BS and dance his way out of any trouble but all it will do is expose his phony ass.
I don’t think I’ve seen him once even pretend ot act in a bipartsian manner. I mean that sets him apart from even Rand Paul who has to his credit wanted to work with Democrats on some things. When you look like more of a hack than Rand Paul, you’re really fucked up and I agree, it will be fun to watch Cruz be exposed for the empty suit he really is.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 22, 2015 8:55:10am |
re: #207 BigPapa
Israel is definitely the Third Rail of US politics. Uber polarizing.
Most of us are talking about the real state of Israel, but we have a large faction that is talking about the idealized vision of Israel, which Nethanyahu has come to represent.
This idealized nation has little to do with the state of Israel as it exists, or its people, it is merely a means to an end: namely fulfilling Biblical prophecy, precipitating Armageddon and bringing on the onset of the End Times and the Second Coming.
I know it sounds totally whacked, but that is what it is about to these people.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 8:58:04am |
re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
That is one vision. Another, no less (and probably more) influential is “Israel is a bulwark against Islamization”.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 8:58:30am |
By the way to the Lizards who recommended the excellent ten part BBC documentary series on the first world war, thank you. I just finished it last night and I really enjoyed it. Really neat how the theme music used was a composition made by a British composer who died in the Western Front serving. I also felt the documentary did a great job covering how truly global the war was since it covered actions in Africa and the Middle East as opposed to most WWI documentaries which have a heavy lean to the Western Front.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mar 22, 2015 9:00:01am |
re: #213 Nyet
That is one vision. Another, no less (and probably more) influential is “Israel is a bulwark against Islamization”.
They overlap with a lot of people. The point is that none of these people really care much about Jewish people or the fate of Israel.
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darthstar Mar 22, 2015 9:03:33am |
Mos Twitter pic.twitter.com/Pel7aKuusy— Shypixel (@Shypixel) March 22, 2015
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 9:09:29am |
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BigPapa Mar 22, 2015 9:12:58am |
If you keep saying ‘Cruz or lose’ your knuckles get sore from draggin on the floor.
Yes, I just made that shit up.
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Great White Snark Mar 22, 2015 9:13:55am |
re: #218 HappyWarrior
Cruz Control. 0 mph.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 9:14:06am |
I always like watching who endorses who. Gives you a small idea of what kind of people they’d have in their cabinets if heaven forbid. I can see GOHMERT! backing Ted.
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BigPapa Mar 22, 2015 9:14:22am |
@NROcorner Why doesn't Maverick just call him 'boy?'
— Ryan King (@BigPapa1849) March 22, 2015
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BigPapa Mar 22, 2015 9:18:53am |
@Deanofcomedy I get your joke, but Cruz announcing at Liberty U tells us all we need to know about Cruz. Channeling Jerry Falwell, SMH
— Tina Winsett (@tmwinsett) March 22, 2015
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 9:20:30am |
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BigPapa Mar 22, 2015 9:23:58am |
Liberty University: supported and promoted by AM Radio cranks like Hugh Hewitt, Dennis Prager, and a bunch of the rest of em.
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darthstar Mar 22, 2015 9:24:20am |
re: #222 BigPapa
I’ll bet if you secretly mic’d McCain and he was in a private meeting with McConnell and a few others, the term ‘boy’ would be commonplace with regard to Obama.
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 9:24:38am |
re: #225 BigPapa
Liberty University: supported and promoted by AM Radio cranks like Hugh Hewitt, Dennis Prager, and a bunch of the rest of em.
Liberty University: Where you have so much liberty that you couldn’t even for the longest time listen to “Christian rock.”
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HappyWarrior Mar 22, 2015 9:25:31am |
re: #226 darthstar
I’ll bet if you secretly mic’d McCain and he was in a private meeting with McConnell and a few others, the term ‘boy’ would be commonplace with regard to Obama.
Wouldn’t surprise me at all.
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The Mother Of All Pies Mar 22, 2015 9:29:08am |
Wingnuts can’t hide their anti-Semitism, it just keeps oozing out from behind their I LOVE ISRAEL facade
Why Do Jews Vote Leftist? http://t.co/Pe8SyWTSoO HINT: Their TRUE Religion is Secular Leftism. #tcot @GOP_Thinker pic.twitter.com/lYqAu73Kuy— The Patriot (@ThePatriot143) March 22, 2015
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darthstar Mar 22, 2015 9:29:43am |
RT @coton_luver: “MT @Patbagley: #TedCruz to announce run for President. As a cartoonist, I am grateful. pic.twitter.com/vboZrSbths” #thisweek— Atticus Stryker (@TAFORU) March 22, 2015
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 9:33:06am |
re: #231 darthstar
Aww, look at the cute lil’ cheeks on that buttface.
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BigPapa Mar 22, 2015 9:33:33am |
re: #226 darthstar
I’ll bet if you secretly mic’d McCain and he was in a private meeting with McConnell and a few others, the term ‘boy’ would be commonplace with regard to Obama.
You’re so many very racist to say such a thing.
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Varek Raith Mar 22, 2015 9:33:58am |
The Religious Right only ‘cares’ about Israel because of End Times mumbo-jumbo.
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darthstar Mar 22, 2015 9:36:02am |
Dream ticket. RT @coton_luver http://t.co/LNKpplGhGp pic.twitter.com/Lq1kkUvoeJ MT— Judy Bott (@JudyBott) March 22, 2015
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BigPapa Mar 22, 2015 9:36:26am |
re: #234 Varek Raith
The Religious Right only ‘cares’ about Israel because of End Times mumbo-jumbo.
That, and the’ll kill them some (brown people slur).
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darthstar Mar 22, 2015 9:36:41am |
re: #232 Nyet
Aww, look at the cute lil’ cheeks on that buttface.
McCain? Yeah, cartoonists love him.
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darthstar Mar 22, 2015 9:37:46am |
re: #233 BigPapa
You’re so many very racist to say such a thing.
Nah, I just think McCain is a racist ex-war-hero prick Can’t stand that fucker.
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 9:37:58am |
re: #231 darthstar
[Embedded content]
Great cartoon. I love the faces the way he drew them. Captures that GOP look of brazen craven craze.
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 22, 2015 9:38:23am |
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darthstar Mar 22, 2015 9:38:51am |
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 22, 2015 9:39:32am |
Twitter handle should have been dumbass24
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Targetpractice Mar 22, 2015 9:39:46am |
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BigPapa Mar 22, 2015 9:42:31am |
re: #244 Targetpractice
Cruz/Palin 2016: “Two idiots for the price of one vote.”
“two derps one ticket”
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Romantic Heretic Mar 22, 2015 9:42:53am |
re: #207 BigPapa
Been on the receiving end of that attitude more than once.
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b_sharp Mar 22, 2015 9:43:27am |
re: #241 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Heh:
What the hell did he think was going to happen?
Poor fuck was all upset he got caught saying shit he believes.
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Dr Lizardo Mar 22, 2015 9:43:27am |
re: #244 Targetpractice
Cruz/Palin 2016: “Two idiots for the price of one vote.”
We can joke about it - and it is a joke - but let’s be honest; if there really were a Cruz/Palin ticket in 2016, I have little doubt that they’d get at minimum 35% of the vote.
Those are the folks for whom a Cruz/Palin ticket would be heaven-sent. And they’d mean that literally.
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Decatur Deb Mar 22, 2015 9:47:25am |
re: #248 Dr Lizardo
We can joke about it - and it is a joke - but let’s be honest; if there really were a Cruz/Palin ticket in 2016, I have little doubt that they’d get at minimum 35% of the vote.
Those are the folks for whom a Cruz/Palin ticket would be heaven-sent. And they’d mean that literally.
I’d like the ticket, and the 35%.
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate Mar 22, 2015 9:47:34am |
re: #247 b_sharp
Poor fuck was all upset he got caught saying shit he believes.
He probably thought nobody but his friends would see it.
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Great White Snark Mar 22, 2015 9:47:38am |
So if we can’t call Jeb a moderate given his less than moderate actions, how do we conversationally set him aside from the likes of Cruz? Or might “moderate” be accepted as a relative term? Gonna be tough to discuss the GOP primary if not. Especially since it appears there will not be a Dem primary to talk about hardly at all.
Is the following not a result of Jeb being relatively moderate?
Jeb Bush’s Matt Drudge problem and why he ticks off so many conservatives
Drudge, a Miami resident and registered independent voter, does not pick the Republican nominee, of course, although he was consistently kind to Mitt Romney in 2012. However, his immensely popular website helps shape the conversation among Republican activists and reporters covering the race.
Combined with the nearly universal skepticism or outright hostility to Bush from other Republican-leaning media outlets from the Weekly Standard to Rush Limbaugh and hotair.com, Drudge’s Bush treatment underscores a significant obstacle to the former Florida governor with the potential to grow even bigger.
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The Mother Of All Pies Mar 22, 2015 9:51:34am |
Ben Shapiro is trying to beat his own Guinness record of World’s Most Obnoxious Fucking Tool & Bag of Dick Meat==>
“Giving the people who flip burgers…a few dimes more an hour is not a handout.” Actually, by definition, it is. http://t.co/T3uql6bgCF— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) March 22, 2015
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The Mother Of All Pies Mar 22, 2015 9:52:13am |
Unlike Ben Shapiro, people who stand for hours over a hot grill, flipping burgers, actually work for a living.
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 9:53:35am |
re: #241 SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Heh:
What the hell did he think was going to happen?
Brainless. He doesn’t think.
He also doesn’t see and hear.
I don’t get how these fools can’t seem to understand what happens these days. There are cases like this every week with jerks killing their own careers being big mouth bigots in a very public way.
I would never condone any thoughts like this, but even a total racist moron should be able to figure out not to shout that crap out on something as public as twitter. I guess it is a case of the big mouth getting in the way of a teeny little b-b brain.
And then they try to get people to forgive them. For what? Being both a racist and a total dumb ass. You are a complete loser at life. Not worth forgiveness.
Later all…
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Dr Lizardo Mar 22, 2015 9:59:26am |
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Varek Raith Mar 22, 2015 10:00:34am |
Back in my day we didn’t have hurricanes.
We just had storms called “What the hell was that?”
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thedopefishlives Mar 22, 2015 10:00:39am |
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Targetpractice Mar 22, 2015 10:05:25am |
re: #252 Great White Snark
So if we can’t call Jeb a moderate given his less than moderate actions, how do we conversationally set him aside from the likes of Cruz? Or might “moderate” be accepted as a relative term? Gonna be tough to discuss the GOP primary if not. Especially since it appears there will not be a Dem primary to talk about hardly at all.
Is the following not a result of Jeb being relatively moderate?
Jeb Bush’s Matt Drudge problem and why he ticks off so many conservatives
Oh goodie, another run of 2012, i.e. “Bush will never win the nomination because the base hates him!”
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stpaulbear Mar 22, 2015 10:11:21am |
re: #250 Decatur Deb
I’d like the ticket, and the 35%.
A Cruz/Palin ticket could also have the almost certain benefit of flipping both the house and senate back to the democrats.
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Great White Snark Mar 22, 2015 10:16:01am |
re: #262 Targetpractice
True or false ?
Jeb splits the diff between the real GOP extremists and what one might objectively call moderate right.
What GOP candidate is more moderate than Jeb? So we voters get an extremist on the ballot. And some folks want me to be pleased at this development. To groups-Left leaners who figure Hilary can beat Cruz or Walker, and far righties who have no interest in a moderate at all.
What a despicable mess.
Added-Again the indy voters get ‘nothin. Those of us displeased for good reason with the more distant elements of both parties have no credible option to vote for. Thanks to an extreme right wing and a pro forma primary on the left.
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wrenchwench Mar 22, 2015 10:17:58am |
Governor Martinez’s History of Attempting to Deny Spanish-Speaking New Mexicans of Their Rights Co… http://t.co/mttaUoqOwI— DPNM (@NMDEMS) March 22, 2015
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Feline Fearless Leader Mar 22, 2015 10:21:09am |
Good afternoon Lizards. Mid-40s today and some sun. So it’s sorta spring-like, especially compared the the Great White North that is still looking forward to another visit from Old Man Winter.
“Thumbnail” photo of the USS Alabama below. 10% size of the jpeg I created from stitching together three photos using MS ICE.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 10:22:33am |
re: #256 The Mother Of All Pies
Unlike Ben Shapiro, people who stand for hours over a hot grill, flipping burgers, actually work for a living.
And they produce good stuff, unlike Ben, who only produces toxic mental dreck.
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Targetpractice Mar 22, 2015 10:23:14am |
re: #264 Great White Snark
True or false ?
Jeb splits the diff between the real GOP extremists and what one might objectively call moderate right.What GOP candidate is more moderate than Jeb? So we voters get an extremist on the ballot. And some folks want me to be pleased at this development. To groups-Left leaners who figure Hilary can beat Cruz or Walker, and far righties who have no interest in a moderate at all.
What a despicable mess.
Jeb isn’t a “moderate,” he’s just a more marketable extremist. Unless being for the abolition of the federal minimum wage is now a “moderate” position. Of course, one could argue he’s saying this crazy shit for the same reason that Willard did in 2012, to which I clear my throat and direct the class to what happened to Willard at the polls. No, if Jeb wins the nomination, it will be for the same reason that Willard won it and McCain before him: The rest of the crazies in the field split the base vote so badly that he could eek out several 2nd and 3rd place finishes that kept him in the race as the others fell flat on their faces.
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wrenchwench Mar 22, 2015 10:32:38am |
re: #268 Targetpractice
Jeb isn’t a “moderate,” he’s just a more marketable extremist. Unless being for the abolition of the federal minimum wage is now a “moderate” position. Of course, one could argue he’s saying this crazy shit for the same reason that Willard did in 2012, to which I clear my throat and direct the class to what happened to Willard at the polls. No, if Jeb wins the nomination, it will be for the same reason that Willard won it and McCain before him: The rest of the crazies in the field split the base vote so badly that he could eek out several 2nd and 3rd place finishes that kept him in the race as the others fell flat on their faces.
Jeb also thinks it should be legal to discriminate against gay people.
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Great White Snark Mar 22, 2015 10:35:37am |
re: #268 Targetpractice
He is not gonna win it. He’s gonna be out as fast as Huntsman was. So as to the term “moderate”, it’s only a word used on the right now as far as talking about GOP candidates goes? Okay seems a bit odd though. Somebody apart from the DNC needs to issue a definition for proper use of the term. Relatively ain’t it apparently.
If you took any of this as a defense of Jeb, you misunderstand me. My point is the poor quality of the prospective candidates in the election so far. And an honest inquiry if relative would be applied at all to the term moderate. That looks like a resounding no.
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Feline Fearless Leader Mar 22, 2015 10:35:58am |
And even then electing a “moderate” will be a disaster since he’d probably act like Boehner and just bend over and give away as the extremists passed piles of bad bills that he’d be unwilling to veto. Not to mention that we’d get a few more radical conservative Supreme Court Justices as well.
Then we get to see 4-8 years of the GOP trying to achieve their pipe dream of completely rolling back the New Deal. And they’d like to kill off the Square Deal while they are at it as well.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 10:37:50am |
Just because you came from working class Canarsie and got rich making overpriced coffee doesn’t give you the insight into race that you think.
Starbucks ends “Race Together” campaign in stores, effort not over
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Great White Snark Mar 22, 2015 10:38:33am |
re: #272 Feline Fearless Leader
No, because a moderate could get help from the other side of the aisle. More so than Hilary will get from the GOP, right?
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BigPapa Mar 22, 2015 10:39:01am |
re: #270 wrenchwench
Jeb also thinks it should be legal to discriminate against gay people.
We should have the freedom to discriminate against anybody we deem unworthy of our freedoms.
People who are 3/5ths of a man or have unapproved relations.
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Varek Raith Mar 22, 2015 10:40:07am |
If your political policies have no basis in reality then you are no moderate.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 10:40:40am |
US, allies target Islamic State in 9 air strikes in Iraq, Syria, joint command statement says - @Reuters
end of alert
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Targetpractice Mar 22, 2015 10:40:52am |
re: #271 Great White Snark
He is not gonna win it. He’s gonna be out as fast as Huntsman was. So as to the term “moderate”, it’s only a word used on the right now as far as talking about GOP candidates goes? Okay seems a bit odd though. Somebody apart from the DNC needs to issue a definition for proper use of the term. Relatively ain’t it apparently.
If you took any of this as a defense of Jeb, you misunderstand me. My point is the poor quality of the prospective candidates in the election so far. And an honest inquiry if relative would be applied at all to the term moderate. That looks like a resounding no.
The choices in this election are not my cup of tea, but beggars can’t be choosers. I’m not sure there’s any other potential Democrat out there who would enter the race with the sort of advantage that Hillary enjoys over the entire GOP field. Perhaps Sen. Warren, but she’s said she will not run and I take her at her word.
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Great White Snark Mar 22, 2015 10:41:26am |
Here’s a wild idea-A real primary that includes candidates from moderate to not so much on both parties. Cray cray I know.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 10:44:05am |
re: #280 Great White Snark
All I know is that I never have, and never will, vote for a Republican, no matter who is on the D ticket, even if I don’t think the D’s platform is as “progressive” or “liberal” as I’d like.
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BigPapa Mar 22, 2015 10:44:15am |
re: #279 wrenchwench
Updinged as good sarcasm.
I was going to use ‘un-approved butt seks’ but that would be too obvious.
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wrenchwench Mar 22, 2015 10:44:15am |
re: #280 Great White Snark
Here’s a wild idea-A real primary that includes candidates from moderate to not so much on both parties. Cray cray I know.
IMHO, ‘moderate Republicans’ don’t have a party.
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 10:47:38am |
The folks who voted for Bush for the idiotic reason that they didn’t like Gore and Kerry gave us* Alito and Roberts. The folks who voted for McCain and Romney voted for giving us 1-3 more conservative judges. So will the folks who will vote for any faux moderate the GOP will nominate. It’s always about the Supreme Court. And voting for the GOP is inexcusable.
* “us” - because the kind of cases the SCOTUS decides often have an effect on the rest of the world, eventually.
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Justanotherhuman Mar 22, 2015 10:52:53am |
This sounds like a Republican statement:
Yemen Houthi leader says UN Security Council is led by countries that plot evil against each other - @Reuters
end of alert
And we’ll see how this turns out…
Houthi leader: It’s not right that Islamic State, al-Qaida attackers can win refuge in any Yemen province - @Reuters
end of alert
Yemen Houthi leader says his decision to mobilize fighters is aimed at al-Qaida, Islamic State - @Reuters
end of alert
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Targetpractice Mar 22, 2015 10:52:53am |
re: #280 Great White Snark
Here’s a wild idea-A real primary that includes candidates from moderate to not so much on both parties. Cray cray I know.
And in an ideal world, I’m sure we’d have such a situation. But we don’t choose from a field that doesn’t exist.
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wrenchwench Mar 22, 2015 10:53:31am |
re: #284 Nyet
* “us” - because the kind of cases the SCOTUS decides often have an effect on the rest of the world, eventually.
Darn, I thought you were relocating and becoming a citizen.
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Mar 22, 2015 10:56:18am |
re: #264 Great White Snark
Added-Again the indy voters get ‘nothin. Those of us displeased for good reason with the more distant elements of both parties have no credible option to vote for. Thanks to an extreme right wing and a pro forma primary on the left.
I’m trying to figure out if this means you think Hillary represents “the more distant element” of her party. If so, what would “a less distant element” look like?
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Nyet Mar 22, 2015 11:01:03am |
re: #287 wrenchwench
Honestly… I like you folks but the US would be pretty far down on the list ;)
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makeitstop Mar 22, 2015 11:01:51am |
re: #280 Great White Snark
Here’s a wild idea-A real primary that includes candidates from moderate to not so much on both parties. Cray cray I know.
Except the Democrats don’t let their ‘not so moderate’ members within rock-throwing distance of the presidential nomination. Despite the ad infinitum charges from the Right, Barack Obama is, by objective standards, a right-leaning Centrist. As was Bill Clinton, and as Hillary will be, should she get the nod.
On the Modern GOP side, being ‘not so moderate’ is not only accepted, it’s become a prerequisite.
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 11:02:12am |
re: #266 Feline Fearless Leader
Good afternoon Lizards. Mid-40s today and some sun. So it’s sorta spring-like, especially compared the the Great White North that is still looking forward to another visit from Old Man Winter.
“Thumbnail” photo of the USS Alabama below. 10% size of the jpeg I created from stitching together three photos using MS ICE.
How large is your jpeg? I would love to see it. Do you have it hosted somewhere we could view the entire image?
I had an uncle serve on that ship. He wasn’t a real close uncle to our family…but I do remember he had a photo book of his time on the Alabama.
I always remember him saying the most harrowing experience in his time was the typhoon they hit that about sank the ship. The ship was damaged by the storm.
After they got the ship back home for repairs, I think that ended his time on her.
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allegro Mar 22, 2015 11:05:12am |
It appears that moderate republicans will have the ideal candidate to vote for in 2016: Hillary Clinton.
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Belafon Mar 22, 2015 11:24:06am |
re: #255 The Mother Of All Pies
The minimum we should pay people for the value of their work is what they need to live and raise a family.
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ObserverArt Mar 22, 2015 11:24:34am |
re: #274 Great White Snark
No, because a moderate could get help from the other side of the aisle. More so than Hilary will get from the GOP, right?
Unfortunately, the GOP is fast becoming the boat anchor of politics. All they are good for is sinking to the bottom and holding everyone in place above.
If there is a real problem in politics…there it is. People are growing more and more distrustful and the contempt people show for ALL politics stems from it.
All the damn negativity the right wallows in is not good for anyone either. They (GOP behind the scenes) keep thinking that aligning with crap like FOX news, science denial, crazy religious freaks, Putin etc. all gains them something.
It does not. It widens the gap to sanity and moderate/middling America. Sadly they seem to be fine with it all.
And that tells me, they just don’t care for anyone in America, they care for their cash daddies and do just their bidding. All their GOP ‘base’ is for is to allow them to keep getting enough offices so they can screw everyone.
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Great White Snark Mar 22, 2015 12:06:28pm |
re: #288 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi
I’m trying to figure out if this means you think Hillary represents “the more distant element” of her party. If so, what would “a less distant element” look like?
Nope. More worried she can’t win it.
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Great White Snark Mar 22, 2015 12:14:58pm |
re: #292 allegro
It appears that moderate republicans will have the ideal candidate to vote for in 2016: Hillary Clinton.
What makes her ideal? Unfettererd by corporate connections? Not part of a “dynasty”? Vast experience as a big state governor? Legislative triumphs?
Or more the sole choice because A-Not Republican and B only Dem available?
It’s hardly pining for the ideal to point out the weaknesses this time around for 2016.
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Great White Snark Mar 22, 2015 12:49:51pm |
re: #283 wrenchwench
Neither do centrist indys. Al least those that don’t actually lean left.
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wrenchwench Mar 22, 2015 3:23:28pm |
re: #297 Great White Snark
Neither do centrist indys. Al least those that don’t actually lean left.
Start leaning. It’s comfortable.
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