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1 Great White Snark  Mar 25, 2015 6:42:42pm

That’s up there with Rodney King. No audio of threat. uh huh. Clean blood test? Wow.

2 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 6:44:07pm

Evil but I’m sure they’ll get off with a slap on the back.

3 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 25, 2015 6:44:42pm
Why is this still happening in America?

BECUZ FREEDUM!!11!!

4 Kragar  Mar 25, 2015 6:44:53pm

I’m really getting sick and fucking tired of this horseshit.

5 Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2015 6:45:09pm

More of those “bad apples” I keep hearing about. Funny how there seem to be so many of these “bad apples” in the orchard…

6 Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2015 6:45:38pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Evil but I’m sure they’ll get off with a slap on the back.

“I felt threatened! He reached for my gun!”

/

7 Kragar  Mar 25, 2015 6:46:34pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

“I felt threatened! He reached for my gun!”

/

“HE IS COMING RIGHT FOR US!”
/

8 Great White Snark  Mar 25, 2015 6:47:46pm

The repeated blows brought back bad memories of that other incident that set my home town to riot and fire. The drumbeat of blows. The blood. The cop getting off.

9 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 6:49:59pm

I honestly wish DoJ had the budget and political capital to do this to all police departments. Not juts Ferguson. There’s definitely a race problem with our nation’s police departments and anyone who denies that has their head in the clouds and that’s me being kind given I have relatives who are in denial about this.

10 ObserverArt  Mar 25, 2015 6:50:05pm

Are the police getting worse about these issues? Is there something going on where they are getting pissed about being in the news and are being even more prickly.

To me, it seems to be an attitude problem in more ways than one. I get the feeling it is not going to improve and will get even more common until it is so out of hand there is a huge kickback and big reforms are called for.

I sure hope it becomes an issue next year in the elections. It damn well should be.

11 jaunte  Mar 25, 2015 6:50:22pm

Throwdown baggie of crack.

12 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 6:51:52pm

re: #10 ObserverArt

Are the police getting worse about these issues? Is there something going on where they are getting pissed about being in the news and are being even more prickly.

To me, it seems to be an attitude problem in more ways than one. I get the feeling it is not going to improve and will get even more common until it is so out of hand there is a huge kickback and big reforms are called for.

I sure hope it becomes an issue next year in the elections. It damn well should be.

I think it’s probably honestly been this bad we’re seeing more of it due to more people having access to mobile devices that can record these sort of things. It does feel like it’s gotten worse though but as I said that could be because we’re seeing more of it than we ever have before.

13 Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2015 6:53:10pm
14 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 25, 2015 6:54:14pm

the police are learning from all these incidents how to get better and better at beating or killing a black man and getting praised for it

15 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 6:54:35pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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That’s what happens when you listen to Limbaugh as a child and someone immediately doesn’t tell you not to take it to heart.

16 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 25, 2015 6:56:21pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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what a loathsome and evil little homunculus he is.

RBS

17 #FergusonFireside  Mar 25, 2015 6:56:43pm

Seriously. This is happening every single day - that we HEAR of.

18 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 25, 2015 6:57:05pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

I think it’s probably honestly been this bad we’re seeing more of it due to more people having access to mobile devices that can record these sort of things. It does feel like it’s gotten worse though but as I said that could be because we’re seeing more of it than we ever have before.

They start shooting some nice white suburban middle class kids for recording these incidents—and it’s only a matter of time before that happens—maybe it will wake some people up.

19 Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2015 6:57:44pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

I think it’s probably honestly been this bad we’re seeing more of it due to more people having access to mobile devices that can record these sort of things. It does feel like it’s gotten worse though but as I said that could be because we’re seeing more of it than we ever have before.

I think that’s one element to the rise in these videos, but I think another has been the slow erosion of public trust in the police. Between the major shootings of the 90s and the post-9/11 jitters, we gave the cops a lot of latitude when it came to enforcing the law. But as both have worn off, and crime rates have continued to fall, it’s become virtually impossible to justify incidents like this. You can only see so many incidents when a cop attacks an unarmed suspect or shoots a guy who had nothing more dangerous than a cellphone in his hands before you realize that there’s something very seriously wrong with the way law enforcement operates in this country.

20 RadicalModerate  Mar 25, 2015 6:58:00pm

When you thought something like this couldn’t possibly get worse.

Violent Inkster arrest: Did officer plant evidence?

And yes, there is video.

The officer accused of this act has a history of falsifying police reports (he was previously kicked off another city’s force for this), and has had more than once charge of planting evidence.

21 ObserverArt  Mar 25, 2015 6:58:04pm

re: #14 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

the police are learning from all these incidents how to get better and better at beating or killing a black man and getting praised for it

That is my take. Add in the strident attitudes of the cops reactions to some of this crap and we have a huge problems. Think of the statements out of Ferguson, Cleveland and New York…the comments posted here from the cops forum that went cop-private.

Not good.

22 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 6:58:42pm

re: #18 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They start shooting some nice white suburban middle class kids for recording these incidents—and it’s only a matter of time before that happens—maybe it will wake some people up.

Someone posted a couple pages down but a Pennsylvania cop was charged with murder for shooting and killing an unarmed 60 year old white guy. You’re right. It’s going to take white suburban middle class kids being shot for middle America to realize how big a problem this is.

23 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 7:00:21pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

I think that’s one element to the rise in these videos, but I think another has been the slow erosion of public trust in the police. Between the major shootings of the 90s and the post-9/11 jitters, we gave the cops a lot of latitude when it came to enforcing the law. But as both have worn off, and crime rates have continued to fall, it’s become virtually impossible to justify incidents like this. You can only see so many incidents when a cop attacks an unarmed suspect or shoots a guy who had nothing more dangerous than a cellphone in his hands before you realize that there’s something very seriously wrong with the way law enforcement operates in this country.

That’s a good point too.

24 Lumberhead  Mar 25, 2015 7:00:57pm

It keeps happening because there are almost never any serious consequences. There are almost never serious consequences because the lives of black men are valued less.

25 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 7:03:32pm

re: #24 Lumberhead

It keeps happening because there are almost never any serious consequences. There are almost never serious consequences because the lives of black men are valued less.

And there’s always a rationalization. As I got at above, I have relatives who buy this crap. They just won’t listen when I point out that police were able to get Alex Holmes the Aurora shooter alive or the younger Tsaraniev brother. The answer is always the same- “Oh the police have a stressful job” and “You need to listen to a police officer when he tells you to do something.” Definitely words of someone who has never been racially profiled by the police.

26 Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2015 7:04:17pm

By the way, another possible target for Chuck’s breaking scoop: Daily Caller misogynist Patrick Howley.

Chuck is pretty notorious for turning on former co-workers. And Howley is just the kind of creep he’d attack.

27 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2015 7:04:29pm

I know this is a serious topic but this might be the funniest thing I’ve seen all week.

28 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 7:07:37pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

I know this is a serious topic but this might be the funniest thing I’ve seen all week.

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You don’t get pizza with Rafael Cruz so that’s another point in favor of the turtle. Better theme song too. No idea what Ted’s will be yet but come on, you can’t say no to this if you remember the show.
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29 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 25, 2015 7:08:11pm

I grew up in an almost all white middle class (well, we were passing) suburb and I’ve never had any trust for the cops. Once you start driving and realize at least one out of ten times you leave the house you’re going to get pulled over—never anything violent of course, or even threatening, but just constant chickenshit harassment—then the thought of calling the cops in the event of any trouble just never occurs to you. You’ve already got problems—why add cop bullshit to the mix?

I can’t even imagine the kind of crap that black inner-city kids my age were going through. It says a lot about them that they haven’t burned the whole fucker down yet.

30 Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2015 7:08:42pm
31 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 25, 2015 7:10:23pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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What? How does that even make sense, even if you’re a racist shitbag?

32 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 7:10:31pm

re: #29 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I grew up in an almost all white middle class (well, we were passing) suburb and I’ve never had any trust for the cops. Once you start driving and realize at least one out of ten times you leave the house you’re going to get pulled over—never anything violent of course, or even threatening, but just constant chickenshit harassment—then the thought of calling the cops in the event of any trouble just never occurs to you. You’ve already got problems—why add cop bullshit to the mix?

I can’t even imagine the kind of crap that black inner-city kids my age were going through. It says a lot about them that they haven’t burned the whole fucker down yet.

Right, too often we see minority especially in urban areas communities criticized for not trusting the police. Well, I think we are starting to see why.

33 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 7:10:52pm

re: #31 Blind Frog Belly White

What? How does that even make sense, even if you’re a racist shitbag?

If the hood fits, you must acquit.

34 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 25, 2015 7:13:12pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Anybody who believes in #bellcurve must call for abolishing #DesignatedHitterRule

Makes about as much sense.

35 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 25, 2015 7:13:20pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

If the hood fits, you must acquit.

Oh, but he’s not an old-style, white sheet, cross-burning racist. No, he’s a race realist, a scientific racist.

Nouveau racist, if you will.

36 dr. luba  Mar 25, 2015 7:14:11pm

Please, NOT Detroit police. Inkster police, one of the older inner suburbs. The cop who planted the evidence was fired by the Detroit PD for similar behavior.

Black auto workers moved to Inkster in the senior Ford’s day because they weren’t allowed to live in Dearborn, where the Ford plant was.

And I find it odd that all the cops were white. Look at the racial breakdown of the city: 20.5% White, 73.2% African American, 0.3% Native American, 1.6% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 0.7% from other races, and 3.6% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.6% of the population.

Another Ferguson?

(Edited for clarity)

37 Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 25, 2015 7:14:50pm

Anyone who believes in the #toothfairy must call for abolishing #dentalfloss.

38 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 25, 2015 7:15:26pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

I think that’s one element to the rise in these videos, but I think another has been the slow erosion of public trust in the police. Between the major shootings of the 90s and the post-9/11 jitters, we gave the cops a lot of latitude when it came to enforcing the law. But as both have worn off, and crime rates have continued to fall, it’s become virtually impossible to justify incidents like this. You can only see so many incidents when a cop attacks an unarmed suspect or shoots a guy who had nothing more dangerous than a cellphone in his hands before you realize that there’s something very seriously wrong with the way law enforcement operates in this country.

This here is a good point. The MSM and Faux Noise have done a good job of convincing people that the crime rate (just like taxes) is going up when it’s really going down, but the puppeteers know the truth. You suppose they’ll start agitating for the return of leaded gas to reverse the trend?

39 #FergusonFireside  Mar 25, 2015 7:20:11pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

Right, too often we see minority especially in urban areas communities criticized for not trusting the police. Well, I think we are starting to see why.

Modern systemic off shoot of Jim Crow. It’s been happening since the 60’s. We’ve just started paying attention.

Shame on us.

40 makeitstop  Mar 25, 2015 7:24:29pm

re: #34 RealityBasedSteve

Anybody who believes in #bellcurve must call for abolishing #DesignatedHitterRule

Makes about as much sense.

I actually like yours better.

41 Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2015 7:24:58pm
42 ObserverArt  Mar 25, 2015 7:25:15pm

Later. Plenty of crazy to come.

43 blueraven  Mar 25, 2015 7:29:04pm

Well these fuckers never get in any trouble, so I hope this gentleman sues the shit out of the police department/city and gets a million+ dollars.

That’s where it hurts them and seems to be all they understand. Bottom line, make them pay one way or the other. This crap has to end.

44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Mar 25, 2015 7:29:17pm

From TBogg:

After the Sandy Hook kids were slaughtered, Ted Cruz was more worried about protecting guns

45 TedStriker  Mar 25, 2015 7:31:04pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

*chuckle*

46 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 25, 2015 7:45:02pm

No audio from any of the cops. No medical treatment for claimed bite to the cop’s arm. He wasn’t trying to flee the cops. All those fuckers should be out of jobs. But the main guy on “desk duty” will be back on the streets in a week. If that. What a fucking shame.

I don’t care of you’re a cop or not. You attack me for no damn reason, I’m going to defend myself.

47 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 25, 2015 7:45:44pm

re: #43 blueraven

Problem with that, residents will be paying that with higher taxes/cops issuing more bullshit tickets a la Ferguson.

48 wrenchwench  Mar 25, 2015 7:47:57pm

Oh, Arizona.

49 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 25, 2015 7:50:12pm

re: #48 wrenchwench

Will there be food?

50 wrenchwench  Mar 25, 2015 7:52:22pm

re: #49 GlutenFreeJesus

Will there be food?

Depends on your church, I suppose. But no free lunches.

51 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 7:53:04pm

re: #48 wrenchwench

Oh, Arizona.

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Yeah not the Christian Taliban. What the fuck.

52 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 7:53:22pm

re: #49 GlutenFreeJesus

Will there be food?

Only if it’s Catholic and then you get the pancakes.

53 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 25, 2015 7:53:44pm

re: #48 wrenchwench

Ain’t she a peach.

azcentral.com

The “constitutional conservative” best known for her efforts to create state militias and close public meetings is hoping this year to boost protections in the future for detention officers who find themselves in hot water.

Like, say, her son-in-law.

Last year, then-Navajo County Supervisor Allen tried to interfere with an internal investigation into her son-in-law’s conduct with female inmates in the Navajo County jail.

This year, Allen has moved on to the state Senate where she sponsored a bill aimed at ensuring that others don’t have to endure what she sees as a witch hunt against her son-in-law.

“I just did not know what to do to help,” she recently told the Senate Public Safety, Military and Technology Committee, which approved a watered-down version of her bill after she read a letter from her daughter about the family’s ordeal. “There was no way to help. It was hard watching.”

54 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 25, 2015 7:54:09pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

Some gluten free Jesus wafers, please!

55 Single-handed sailor  Mar 25, 2015 7:54:45pm

There was only one person who could get me to go to church, that was my mom. She’s dead now.

56 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 7:54:56pm

re: #53 GlutenFreeJesus

Ain’t she a peach.

azcentral.com

Constitutional conservative or as you know it a conservative with a belief that the United States of America only operates for benefit of conservative Christians.

57 GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 25, 2015 7:57:11pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

And that it’s her right as a politician to interfere with criminal investigations involving family!

58 aagcobb  Mar 25, 2015 7:57:35pm

re: #48 wrenchwench

Oh, Arizona.

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Freedumb OF religion, not freedumb FROM religion!!!

59 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 7:58:41pm

re: #57 GlutenFreeJesus

And that it’s her right as a politician to interfere with criminal investigations involving family!

Reminds me of another politician from a state whose letter begins with A and who calls herself a constitutional conservative.

60 blueraven  Mar 25, 2015 7:59:08pm

re: #47 GlutenFreeJesus

Problem with that, residents will be paying that with higher taxes/cops issuing more bullshit tickets a la Ferguson.

Well that is bad of course, but maybe they will become a little more concerned with who is running things; police chiefs, mayors etc…

61 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 25, 2015 8:00:02pm

Going OT for a minute because I have to vent. I’ve been watching “Mind of a Chef” on Netflix. Mostly, it’s been enjoyable if a little boring. However, this episode I’m watching has a Low Country (as in South Carolina) chef traveling to West Africa to sample the taste profile where a lot of Low Country cooking originated. He manages to go through the whole fucking show without once mentioning that the only reason there were West Africans in the Low Country was because THEY WERE SLAVES!

A sample actual quote: “If you look back at the very beginning of Low Country Cuisine, it’s important to understand who was doing the cooking: It was the West Africans.”

62 wrenchwench  Mar 25, 2015 8:04:30pm

Scott Walker was in Arizona today.

63 RealityBasedSteve  Mar 25, 2015 8:04:55pm

re: #61 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Going OT for a minute because I have to vent. I’ve been watching “Mind of a Chef” on Netflix. Mostly, it’s been enjoyable if a little boring. However, this episode I’m watching has a Low Country (as in South Carolina) chef traveling to West Africa to sample the taste profile where a lot of Low Country cooking originated. He manages to go through the whole fucking show without once mentioning that the only reason there were West Africans in the Low Country was because THEY WERE SLAVES!

A sample actual quote: “If you look back at the very beginning of Low Country Cuisine, it’s important to understand who was doing the cooking: It was the West Africans.”

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Upding for The Stig. They say that his knees bend the opposite direction of humans, and he can control ducks with his mind.

RBS

64 wrenchwench  Mar 25, 2015 8:07:58pm

re: #61 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Going OT for a minute because I have to vent. I’ve been watching “Mind of a Chef” on Netflix. Mostly, it’s been enjoyable if a little boring. However, this episode I’m watching has a Low Country (as in South Carolina) chef traveling to West Africa to sample the taste profile where a lot of Low Country cooking originated. He manages to go through the whole fucking show without once mentioning that the only reason there were West Africans in the Low Country was because THEY WERE SLAVES!

A sample actual quote: “If you look back at the very beginning of Low Country Cuisine, it’s important to understand who was doing the cooking: It was the West Africans.”

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Here’s your antidote:

twitter.com

afroculinaria.com

65 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 25, 2015 8:11:26pm

re: #63 RealityBasedSteve

Upding for The Stig. They say that his knees bend the opposite direction of humans, and he can control ducks with his mind.

RBS

This is my new desk flipping gif. I stole it from a Jalopnik thread about Jeremy Clarkson getting fired, then spent way too much time trying to reduce it below 500K to fit here (it was 3.5 MB) :)

66 Single-handed sailor  Mar 25, 2015 8:13:57pm

re: #65 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

This is my new desk flipping gif. I stole it from a Jalopnik thread about Jeremy Clarkson getting fired, then spent way too much time trying to reduce it below 500K to fit here (it was 3.5 MB) :)

yeah, the 500k limit is really cutting down my vast gif library.

67 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 25, 2015 8:14:34pm

re: #64 wrenchwench

Thanks. I think someone else recommended his twitter account earlier, so I’m following him. I need to spend some time on the website though.

68 wrenchwench  Mar 25, 2015 8:18:28pm

re: #67 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

He’s fascinating.

To honor the food past and provide for the food future is what Michael calls, “culinary justice.”

69 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 25, 2015 8:20:37pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

He’s fascinating.

Yeah. I was just reading this post: A Koshersoul Response To the Producers of “Kosher Soul” It would seem like he’d have a copyright claim or something against whatever this show is which has stolen his blog moniker.

70 wrenchwench  Mar 25, 2015 8:28:19pm
71 Amory Blaine  Mar 25, 2015 8:28:25pm

Bank robber that killed State Trooper Trevor Casper has ties to skinheads.

Who is the man who shot Trooper Casper? What was he doing in Wisconsin?

Snyder was a master cement mason with his own business in suburban Detroit. But in 1996, Snyder was arrested in Fond du Lac after a bloody brawl between a group of “Skinheads” and another group of “Blacks and Hispanics.” According to a criminal complaint from the case, the two groups pulled out pipes and baseball bats and started swinging. When officers arrived, they scattered. But the officers caught what documents describe as one of the Skinheads — then 19-year-old Snyder. He had several white power tattoos and a coat filled with small, printed cards promoting the “National Alliance,” a white supremacist group. Another young man from Fond du Lac was later caught and arrested, carrying a card with the words, “FDL Boot Boys” and a Celtic cross.

72 wrenchwench  Mar 25, 2015 8:30:46pm

re: #71 Amory Blaine

Fond du Lac is where my mom grew up.

73 Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 25, 2015 8:33:09pm

re: #72 wrenchwench

Fond du Lac is where my mom grew up.

Sounds like a large body of molten cheese.
/ ;)

74 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 25, 2015 8:53:22pm
Why is this still happening in America?

Because authoritarian violence against black people is foundational to America. Half of the country was explicitely founded on white supremacy, and we killed an awful lot of people trying to (unsuccesfully) root it out. It is baked into our national DNA, and I do not know if there is any remedy for it.

The fact that police violence has increasingly begun to include white men and women is partly why more attention is being paid to this issue.

75 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 25, 2015 8:54:11pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Evil but I’m sure they’ll get off with a slap on the back.

No, they will be told they violated no department guidelines and did a great job.

76 Dark_Falcon  Mar 25, 2015 9:00:10pm

re: #48 wrenchwench

Oh, Arizona.

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The 1st Amendment, how does it work?

77 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 9:06:51pm

re: #75 Aunty Entity Dragon

No, they will be told they violated no department guidelines and did a great job.

I think you missed my word play there. Slap on the back as in “Hey, doing a great job out there.” That was deliberate.

78 Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 25, 2015 9:08:41pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

I think you missed my word play there. Slap on the back as in “Hey, doing a great job out there.” That was deliberate.

Unfortunatly true in that respect.

79 Dark_Falcon  Mar 25, 2015 9:08:45pm

Here’s a idea that got funded fast. I’m kind of admiring but also worried:

Group raises $50K overnight for commercial flamethrower (VIDEO)

The XM42 is the world’s first commercial flamethrower. Or rather, it will be. Overnight the XM42 received the crowdfunding it needed to go from concept to production and has been completely funded and then some.

Developed by the Ion Production Team, the XM42 flamethrower is a fresh design built from the ground up for flame-throwing. An original design, the XM42 isn’t a bunch of parts from the hardware store that have been re-purposed. Your average backyard project flamethrowers have drawbacks, not being built using components intended for mixing with fire, and can have limited lifespans — or worse, pose a danger to the user and their surroundings.

The XM42 won’t have those drawbacks. It will be be a modern flamethrower with safety and functionality primary concerns along with longevity and portability in mind.

SNIP

With its stainless steel and brushed aluminum construction, the XM42’s looks alone have made it a swift seller. The crowdfunding campaign started on March 24 and has already exceeded it’s goal of raising $40,000. People interested in picking up one of the flamethrowers from the first run have about a month left in the campaign to order one.

The article has the production group’s video, but in my mind this idea calls for some Fallout Boy:

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80 Romantic Heretic  Mar 25, 2015 9:10:10pm

re: #79 Dark_Falcon

Oh, this is going to end well.

81 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 9:10:28pm

re: #78 Aunty Entity Dragon

Unfortunatly true in that respect.

Yeah it sucks. I was reading earlier about two officers that killed a guy getting millions in damages because they were assigned desk duty after killing an unarmed man. The victim’s mother got a fraction of the amount.

82 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 9:11:03pm

re: #80 Romantic Heretic

Oh, this is going to end well.

Gubmint hands off my flamethrower?

83 Dark_Falcon  Mar 25, 2015 9:15:46pm

The XM-42 scorched the thread.

84 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 9:17:37pm

re: #83 Dark_Falcon

The XM-42 scorched the thread.

Needs s’mores.

85 Dark_Falcon  Mar 25, 2015 9:19:48pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

Needs s’mores.

No, what we need is a troll, so we can use the flamethrower to quickly roast its gamey buttocks.

/Entirely kidding

86 Amory Blaine  Mar 25, 2015 9:21:06pm

Scott Walker Saves More Money For Menard

And then there’s this tale of free market capitalism.

The most infamous casualty of this policy was Eldon Helget, a lumber yard manager for Menards’ Burnsville, Minn., store. Helget’s daughter was confined to a wheelchair and the narrow hallways in the Helget home made it difficult to get around. She was getting too big for her mother Linda to carry her up the stairs, and because the bathroom couldn’t accommodate her wheelchair, the girl had no privacy. When the Helgets could find no home that met their needs, they decided to build from scratch. But Helget’s boss, Larry Menard, said there were no exceptions to the company rule. Helget, who had a stellar 13-year record with the company, could resign his post and take a lower-level job, Larry said. That meant a $15,000 cut in his $40,000 salary, but Helget still agreed. The Helgets hired a contractor to build a ramp-equipped home, using building materials from another company. When John Menard heard about the deal, he fired Helget. The company notified Helget that if he ever showed up on its property again, he’d be arrested for trespassing.

87 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 9:23:03pm

re: #86 Amory Blaine

Scott Walker Saves More Money For Menard

What fuck is wrong with people? Yeah this is exactly why I am not exactly enamored with the business community and believing that the private sector always knows best.

88 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 9:23:32pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

No, what we need is a troll, so we can use the flamethrower to quickly roast its gamey buttocks.

/Entirely kidding

Too late for a troll-a-qu but never too late for graham, chocolate, and marshemllow.

89 Dark_Falcon  Mar 25, 2015 9:23:38pm

And in the “Non-GOP Horseshit” column for tonight we’ve got this gem:

Former Oregon First Lady compares herself to Monica Lewinsky after her fiancé was forced to resign as governor over questions about her consulting business

You used your fiance’s position to direct contracts to your business and are now getting investigated about it by the FBI. Yeah lady, you’re exactly like a starstruck young intern.

/dripping

90 Dark_Falcon  Mar 25, 2015 9:30:13pm

re: #86 Amory Blaine

Scott Walker Saves More Money For Menard

To be fair: Menard’s also has stores in Illinois as well and has often gotten tax breaks in order to open new locations. So what Walker has done isn’t out-of-the-ordinary by any means. john Menard however, seems to be very much the controlling type.

91 Lidane  Mar 25, 2015 9:33:37pm
92 HappyWarrior  Mar 25, 2015 9:35:15pm

re: #91 Lidane

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I guess Donald Trump won’t be getting a Christmas card from Farah this year then. Not surprised at all Farah’s all in for Cruz given their similar twisted religious views.

93 Higgs Boson's Mate  Mar 25, 2015 10:15:42pm

re: #91 Lidane

He is going to be a formidable candidate. More importantly, he’s a breath of fresh air for giving Americans hope again - the kind of hope we haven’t had since Ronald Reagan was articulating his vision of national renewal.

IOW, Cruz is a stupid person’s idea of a great president.

94 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Mar 26, 2015 5:05:01am

re: #86 Amory Blaine

Scott Walker Saves More Money For Menard

The fuck?! I’m going to get a lot of use out of this one:

95 BlueGrl21  Mar 26, 2015 10:16:19am

It’s always been there. “Fuck the Police” was not an urban fairy tale. But it always got blown off. No one was listening to the black community, or they threw out the “black people are violent so they’re getting arrested for a reason and they need a beating when they resist.” Horseshit. I do not know a single black man, whether a 15 year-old kid or a CEO, who has not had to deal with the police and racial profiling.

People did not listen to the black community. Now, it’s coming out on video. They were telling the truth. But it’s endemic now. I am not saying all cops are bad, not by a long shot. But the ones who are have acted with impunity for so long that they’re entrenched.

So, I’d ask:

1. Why was the black community ignored or dismissed?
2. What are we going to do about these shit cops to get them out of law enforcement? Hint: fire them.
3. What does the police recommend to clean up their own houses?
4. Is what they recommend really going to make a difference, or are we so far off from reality that they are not capable of turning these issues around?
5. Why is the culture protecting bad cops instead of good cops feeling empowered to speak out without fear of retribution?
6. If someone is so afraid of getting killed or shot on the job, are they really fit to be a police officer? Maybe it’s time to find a new line of work or a different role in law enforcement?
7. Are we investing in our police departments in the most effective way? Hint: Tanks bad, community policing good.

I want to be careful…there are so many good, solid police departments that do not have these issues. But the ones that do have to be picked apart and torn apart and rebuilt and we have to have the intestinal fortitude to force it to happen.


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