Glenn Beck Announces Gays Are Nazis, Then Announces Interview With Gay Pundit Glenn Greenwald

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In a masterpiece of moronic mixed metaphors, Glenn Beck announced today on his radio show that gay rights activists are building a Nazi regime while wearing the robes of the Inquisition that will lead to a Christian Holocaust.

This is what happens when you throw a bunch of ridiculously extreme right wing memes in a blender and set it on “purée.”

In other Glenn Beck news, the raving freakazoid nut sandwich also announced that tomorrow he’ll be interviewing gay “liberal” pundit Glenn Greenwald.

And the Mighty Greenwald has already responded to those who have the temerity to criticize him for this, by comparing himself to President Obama being interviewed by Bill O’Reilly, and calling his critics “absolute idiots.”

That’s how the Mighty G rolls.

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253 comments
1 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 1:09:06pm

I don’t know which of those assholes needs their ego removed most.

2 lawhawk  Apr 2, 2015 1:11:02pm

It’s an idiots delight of self-serving egotistical blowhards. No wonder they’re patting each other on the back for the interview.

Both get to burnish their “credibility” which is to say their overinflated egos.

3 Kragar  Apr 2, 2015 1:12:52pm

Let me check my schedule…

Darn, I’ll be busy not giving a fuck about what either of them has to say then.

4 Jenner7  Apr 2, 2015 1:13:13pm

So, they’re comparing CNN and the BBC to Glenn Beck?

Alrighty.

5 Iwouldprefernotto  Apr 2, 2015 1:16:45pm

Is it just me or to both GB and GG go out of their way top make me hate them?

6 Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2015 1:17:18pm
7 allegro  Apr 2, 2015 1:19:03pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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Maybe he’s starting the gay nazi inquisition with Beck. Is he showing up with wood and nails?

8 WhatEVs  Apr 2, 2015 1:20:06pm
9 b_sharp  Apr 2, 2015 1:20:13pm

re: #2 lawhawk

It’s an idiots delight of self-serving egotistical blowhards. No wonder they’re patting each other on the back for the interview.

Both get to burnish their “credibility” which is to say their overinflated egos.

You can polish a turd.

10 leftynyc  Apr 2, 2015 1:21:53pm

Been so busy I haven’t had a chance to plow through all the threads of the last two days and simply must know if Babushka’s suitcase caught up to her yet.

11 b_sharp  Apr 2, 2015 1:22:42pm

re: #10 leftynyc

Been so busy I haven’t had a chance to plow through all the threads of the last two days and simply must know if Babushka’s suitcase caught up to her yet.

Her luggage ran away with Rincewind.

12 allegro  Apr 2, 2015 1:23:08pm

re: #9 b_sharp

You can polish a turd.

I’ve never seen anyone polish a turd, but I’ve watched a dung beetle roll one. Pretty sure that’s more interesting than a Beck-Greenwald jerk fest.

13 Dr Lizardo  Apr 2, 2015 1:23:56pm

So, the wingnuts are certainly not happy about the deal framework reached with Iran.

All I can say to the wingnuts, Yoda can say for me:

14 lawhawk  Apr 2, 2015 1:24:40pm

re: #12 allegro

b-sharp is right. You can polish a turd. Saw it on Mythbusters. There’s a whole technique to it, and you can get a nice shiny one with just a little bit of effort.

Greenwald does seem to go out of his way to put his shine on.

15 The Week Of No Pie  Apr 2, 2015 1:25:23pm

re: #10 leftynyc

Been so busy I haven’t had a chance to plow through all the threads of the last two days and simply must know if Babushka’s suitcase caught up to her yet.

The suitcase was at the Prague airport THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME. We were reunited in time to arrive in Tel Aviv together.

We are now in Jerusalem with all the baggage. Nothing is missing (that we have noticed) but TSA literally left a calling card.

16 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 2, 2015 1:25:38pm

Most disgusting RW post of the day?

Freepers respond to Iran deal. WARNING: Disgusting and offensive.

The general freeper response is too incoherent to merit serious comment. Their fantasy ideology is now wholly self-contained, beyond the event horizon of comprehension and rational commentary.

17 Lidane  Apr 2, 2015 1:26:42pm

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel

Ted Cruz voters. Heh.

18 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 1:26:46pm

re: #9 b_sharp

You can polish a turd.

not only that, but if you reach the right suckers you can sell subscriptions to them

19 lawhawk  Apr 2, 2015 1:27:12pm

It isn’t the fix which I’d want to see, which is a full conformity with the fed RFRA. Instead, this is a lame attempt to paper over the fact that the state is legalizing discrimination, but it’s limiting to a minor extent who can do the discriminating.

It would have been better to repeal the law outright, or to delete all those provisions that differed from the fed RFRA - but doing so would have been tacit recognition that it wasn’t the same as the fed RFRA (heck, even these amendments are recognition of that point, but the GOP still wants to discriminate using religion as an excuse). So that’s where we are.

20 b_sharp  Apr 2, 2015 1:29:50pm

re: #12 allegro

I’ve never seen anyone polish a turd, but I’ve watched a dung beetle roll one. Pretty sure that’s more interesting than a Beck-Greenwald jerk fest.

Mythbusters showed how.

21 allegro  Apr 2, 2015 1:31:57pm

re: #19 lawhawk

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… Instead, this is a lame attempt to paper over the fact that the state is legalizing discrimination, but it’s limiting to a minor extent who can do the discriminating.

Who gets to if it passes?

22 WhatEVs  Apr 2, 2015 1:33:13pm

re: #15 The Mother Of All Pies

Nothing is missing (that we have noticed) but TSA literally left a calling card.

They always do when they open a bag. Must be a requirement. I have a whole collection of them.

23 ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2015 1:34:14pm

Two Glenns don’t make a right.

24 wrenchwench  Apr 2, 2015 1:35:41pm

re: #23 ObserverArt

Two Glenns don’t make a right.

But three lefts do. Go figure.

25 b.d.  Apr 2, 2015 1:35:45pm

F*ck Glenn and f*ck Glenn too.

26 b.d.  Apr 2, 2015 1:36:10pm

re: #23 ObserverArt

Two Glenns don’t make a right.

Both Glenns are on the far right though.

27 Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2015 1:38:23pm
28 Lidane  Apr 2, 2015 1:39:34pm

re: #19 lawhawk

Apparently, the Indiana Senate has approved the “fix” as well. Now it’s up to Pence.

29 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 2, 2015 1:39:52pm

To illustrate just how crazy the RW fantasy ideologues are, they attach great significance to the timing of the Iran deal announcement, ie the day before Passover, as an “obvious” slap at Israel.

RWers everywhere, Freep, Redstate etc., are running with this. Many see it as coordinated with Obama’s plan to “take out Christians” via the Gaystapo.

This epidemic of violent insanity is looking more and more like a zombie apocalypse every day, except that these zombies can drive and use firearms.

30 wrenchwench  Apr 2, 2015 1:43:49pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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It’s all about who you follow:

31 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 1:44:49pm

If there ever was a question that Greenwald is nothing short of a hack, this should settle it.

32 lawhawk  Apr 2, 2015 1:45:13pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel

Hey, it’s on Holy Thursday, before Good Friday, and Easter Sunday too. And Friday is the Muslim day of rest. And Buddhists celebrate Theravada New Year on Sunday too.

The right wing is spinning furiously to try and make this all about Israel and Netanyahu.

33 ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2015 1:45:15pm

Folks…let us not limit the definitions of the meaning of the word right. I know this is mainly a political blog/forum and easy to limit it to left and right as in political stances. But consider the two Glenns we are speaking about. In many political ways these two are very seldom right*!

* right (From thefreedisctionary.com
(rīt)
adj. right*er, right*est
1. Conforming with or conformable to justice, law, or morality: do the right thing and confess.
2. In accordance with fact, reason, or truth; correct: the right answer.
3. Fitting, proper, or appropriate: It is not right to leave the party without saying goodbye.
4. Most favorable, desirable, or convenient: the right time to act.
5. In or into a satisfactory state or condition: put things right.
6. In good mental or physical health or order.

34 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 1:45:35pm

matter meets antimatter

Indiana’s Republican top lawmakers on Thursday moved to change a divisive measure billed as a religious freedom law, to make clear that it does not permit discrimination against gay men and lesbians

35 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 1:46:41pm

i thought it was ernest tubb who said ‘two wrongs won’t make a right’

36 Lidane  Apr 2, 2015 1:46:44pm
37 b_sharp  Apr 2, 2015 1:47:20pm

re: #26 b.d.

Both Glenns are on the far right though.

Both Glenns are on the far loon.

38 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 1:48:01pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel

To illustrate just how crazy the RW fantasy ideologues are, they attach great significance to the timing of the Iran deal announcement, ie the day before Passover, as an “obvious” slap at Israel.

RWers everywhere, Freep, Redstate etc., are running with this. Many see it as coordinated with Obama’s plan to “take out Christians” via the Gaystapo.

This epidemic of violent insanity is looking more and more like a zombie apocalypse every day, except that these zombies can drive and use firearms.

Let’s see if Good Friday and the Easter weekend stop these “christians” from condemning the deal.

You know it won’t. It doesn’t stop their shopping frenzy, either.

39 Jack Burton  Apr 2, 2015 1:49:04pm

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel

Most disgusting RW post of the day?

Freepers respond to Iran deal. WARNING: Disgusting and offensive.

The general freeper response is too incoherent to merit serious comment. Their fantasy ideology is now wholly self-contained, beyond the event horizon of comprehension and rational commentary.

40 allegro  Apr 2, 2015 1:50:04pm

re: #38 Justanotherhuman

Let’s see if Good Friday and the Easter weekend stop these “christians” from condemning the deal.

You know it won’t. It doesn’t stop their shopping frenzy, either.

Big weekend for Hobby Lobby.

41 Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2015 1:50:11pm
42 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 2, 2015 1:50:20pm

re: #32 lawhawk

Hey, it’s on Holy Thursday, before Good Friday, and Easter Sunday too. And Friday is the Muslim day of rest. And Buddhists celebrate Theravada New Year on Sunday too.

The right wing is spinning furiously to try and make this all about Israel and Netanyahu.

Some of the GOP zombies did invoke the Easter connection as well, accusing the evil Kenyan of attacking both Judaism and Christianity with his announcement, even as his Gaycorn militia prepares to eradicate Christians in Indiana (or at least Christian pizza parlors).

43 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 1:50:21pm

Delta Air Lines says it will assume tax burden for employees in same-sex relationships; participates in brief urging Supreme Court to support marriage equality - statement

news.delta.com

44 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2015 1:51:03pm

UpChuck is awake and being an idiot again/still.

He’s thinks Chris Rock is going to answer his stupid tweet?

ha!

45 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 1:52:09pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

UpChuck is awake and being an idiot again/still.

He’s thinks Chris Rock is going to answer his stupid tweet?

ha!

Oh boy.

46 Lidane  Apr 2, 2015 1:52:20pm
47 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 1:52:52pm
48 Ace-o-aces  Apr 2, 2015 1:53:03pm

re: #42 Shiplord Kirel

Some of the GOP zombies did invoke the Easter connection as well, accusing the evil Kenyan of attacking both Judaism and Christianity with his announcement, even as his Gaycorn militia prepares to eradicate Christians in Indiana (or at least Christian pizza parlors).

I believe the general GOP argument against the deal is:
HOW CAN U BE AGAINST WAR WITH IRAN AND FOR GAY PEOPLE EATING PIZZA!!!!! EXPLAIN THAT LIBTARDS!!!!!

49 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 1:53:44pm

re: #46 Lidane

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The bigots are going to be pissed.

50 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2015 1:54:57pm
51 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 1:55:09pm

re: #48 Ace-o-aces

I believe the general GOP argument against the deal is:
HOW CAN U BE AGAINST WAR WITH IRAN AND FOR GAY PEOPLE EATING PIZZA!!!!! EXPLAIN THAT LIBTARDS!!!!!

Sadly that is how they argue. Jonah the idiot from idiot NRO was acting like the WH was being “hypocritical” for dealing with Tehran while at the same condemning the anti-gay legislations. It must hurt to be that stupid but then again we are talking about a man who blames Nazism on the left.

52 Tigger2  Apr 2, 2015 1:55:16pm

The majority of the country doesn’t care if they are pissed or not.

This comment ^^^ is supposed to be a response to Happy Warrior, Post 49

For some reason Quote wont work for me right now.

53 Ace-o-aces  Apr 2, 2015 1:56:25pm

Just had to share this because I was arguing with this guy and suddenly I’m not sure if he is being serious or not.

54 Dr Lizardo  Apr 2, 2015 1:57:04pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

The bigots are going to be pissed.

Oh yes they will.

55 Kragar  Apr 2, 2015 1:57:21pm
56 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 1:57:29pm

He’s got the best hair, too.

Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz says America’s leading nuclear experts are ‘very confident in the technical underpinnings’ of Iran nuclear deal
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57 Dr. Matt  Apr 2, 2015 1:58:12pm
58 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2015 1:58:23pm
59 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 1:58:37pm

re: #53 Ace-o-aces

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Just had to share this because I was arguing with this guy and suddenly I’m not sure if he is being serious or not.

You mean like calling everyone who thinks the government has a role in improving people’s life a communist? I wouldn’t be lecturing anyone on the left about labels. As for reactionary, I’m not the one who believes in economic theories that were reactionary last century.

60 Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2015 1:59:39pm
61 ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2015 2:00:34pm

re: #47 Justanotherhuman

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What favorite poison would these Iranians be drinking to celebrate?

Russia Vodka???

62 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2015 2:00:45pm
63 Nyet  Apr 2, 2015 2:00:55pm

re: #36 Lidane

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Well, yeah, he also never said “love your enemies”. He didn’t know English.

64 EPR-radar  Apr 2, 2015 2:01:03pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

If this were a real thing, puzzling bank robberies would be in the news.

65 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 2, 2015 2:01:04pm

re: #47 Justanotherhuman

Did I get that right: Israelis are cheering the deal that American rightwingnuts are characterizing as a betrayal of Israel?

66 wrenchwench  Apr 2, 2015 2:01:19pm

re: #56 Justanotherhuman

He’s got the best hair, too.

Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz says America’s leading nuclear experts are ‘very confident in the technical underpinnings’ of Iran nuclear deal
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He was also a participant. I saw him in several photos with Kerry.

67 b.d.  Apr 2, 2015 2:02:05pm

re: #56 Justanotherhuman

He’s got the best hair, too.

Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz says America’s leading nuclear experts are ‘very confident in the technical underpinnings’ of Iran nuclear deal
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Ernest is the awesome:

68 makeitstop  Apr 2, 2015 2:02:43pm

re: #53 Ace-o-aces

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Just had to share this because I was arguing with this guy and suddenly I’m not sure if he is being serious or not.

Funny, I had a conservative on Facebook call me a fascist today.

Is that their new thing now? They wore out ‘Commie?’

69 Dr Lizardo  Apr 2, 2015 2:02:48pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

70 Nyet  Apr 2, 2015 2:03:31pm

re: #69 Dr Lizardo

Still more believable then the rest of religions.

71 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 2:03:39pm

re: #53 Ace-o-aces

Just had to share this because I was arguing with this guy and suddenly I’m not sure if he is being serious or not.

it is hard to imagine that somebody could say that without realizing that they are satirizing themself

72 CuriousLurker  Apr 2, 2015 2:04:15pm

re: #65 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Did I get that right: Israelis are cheering the deal that American rightwingnuts are characterizing as a betrayal of Israel?

Those are Iranians, not Israelis.

73 ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2015 2:04:17pm

Just gotta say.

Pretty good work for a lame duck President!

And, I have a feeling he is not done either.

74 Jenner7  Apr 2, 2015 2:04:26pm

Obama’s going to be in my state tonight. He’s speaking at Hill Air Force and it’s not open to the public. :(

ksl.com

75 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:05:05pm

re: #68 makeitstop

Funny, I had a conservative on Facebook call me a fascist today.

Is that their new thing now? They wore out ‘Commie?’

They think the two are the same. Because you know Spanish Civil War, WWII, or you know pretty much every thing never happened. Rememebr Jonah the moron’s idiotic book is Liberal Fascism.

76 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 2:05:26pm

re: #68 makeitstop

Funny, I had a conservative on Facebook call me a fascist today.

Is that their new thing now? They wore out ‘Commie?’

webster’s has announced a special on redefining words to mean whatever you want

eventually you’ll need a separate dictionary for each person

77 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 2, 2015 2:06:28pm

re: #35 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i thought it was ernest tubb who said ‘two wrongs won’t make a right’

And it’s a known fact that two Asians don’t produce Caucasians, hence the saying “Two Wongs don’t make a white”.

RBS

78 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:06:51pm

First we were Communists. Then we were peaceniks. And now we’re just like the Nazis.

79 jaunte  Apr 2, 2015 2:06:54pm

re: #53 Ace-o-aces

Judging by his timeline, he’s a big promoter/victim of the “Liberal Fascism” hogwash.

80 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 2, 2015 2:07:04pm

re: #72 CuriousLurker

Those are Iranians, not Israelis.

Thanks for that. I overlooked “from Tehran” in the first Tweet.

81 Kragar  Apr 2, 2015 2:07:24pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

First we were Communists. Then we were peaceniks. And now we’re just like the Nazis.

I never knew you were gay.
/

82 Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2015 2:07:35pm
83 b.d.  Apr 2, 2015 2:08:05pm
84 #FergusonFireside  Apr 2, 2015 2:08:25pm

re: #40 allegro

Big weekend for Hobby Lobby.

I just completed an estimate for one of their new stores. :(

And, I have a Seaworld building tomorrow :( ( (

85 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:09:28pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

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It really is as the arbitrary Munich references by people who don’t know shit about what actually happened at Munich.

86 CuriousLurker  Apr 2, 2015 2:10:56pm

re: #80 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Thanks for that. I overlooked “from Tehran” in the first Tweet.

You’re welcome. Another give-away is using “salamati” which is the Persian version of “cheers”.

87 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 2:11:41pm

re: #61 ObserverArt

Drink!

88 Ace-o-aces  Apr 2, 2015 2:11:52pm
89 wrenchwench  Apr 2, 2015 2:12:24pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

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90 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 2, 2015 2:12:30pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

First we were Communists. Then we were peaceniks. And now we’re just like the Nazis.

Considering the Nazis emphatic and terminal form of discrimination I’m surprised that they use them as a pejorative.

91 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 2, 2015 2:13:19pm

re: #47 Justanotherhuman

And another one!
Here’s to your health #IranDeal
Salamtiiiii pic.twitter.com

Republican Guard volunteers celebrating their imminent departure for Indiana! And with heavy water no doubt, to celebrate Obama’s abject surrender to their nuclear ambitions as well as his upcoming/ongoing holy war against Christians!!

92 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 2:13:46pm

re: #90 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Considering the Nazis emphatic and terminal form of discrimination I’m surprised that they use them as a pejorative.

hitler was just standing up for his right to associate with whoever he wanted to!

93 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:14:01pm

re: #90 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Considering the Nazis emphatic and terminal form of discrimination I’m surprised that they use them as a pejorative.

Eh everyone hates the Nazis noawadays pretty much. I really like to piss off conservatives by pointing out that the Nazis heavily targeted the German left and in fact equated Judaism with leftism. It’rs true that Nazism and fascism as well differ from traditional European conservatism but the Nazis and Fascists were certainly on the ideological right.

94 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2015 2:15:19pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

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The problem with an all-or-nothing, good-vs-evil outlook is that it makes ANY deal short of the Iranian government completely capitulating a bad deal. You can’t even leave them with a crumb, or it’s not harsh enough. This is why Iran now has 19,000 centrifuges - because we wouldn’t even talk to them unless they gave up ALL their enrichment capacity as a precondition.

95 Kragar  Apr 2, 2015 2:16:31pm
96 Nyet  Apr 2, 2015 2:17:19pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

They think that economics (Nazis weren’t free-marketers) trumps ideology. Not really.

97 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:17:46pm

re: #95 Kragar

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Boom.

98 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 2:18:42pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Eh everyone hates the Nazis noawadays pretty much. I really like to piss off conservatives by pointing out that the Nazis heavily targeted the German left and in fact equated Judaism with leftism. It’rs true that Nazism and fascism as well differ from traditional European conservatism but the Nazis and Fascists were certainly on the ideological right.

these days i find that “conservatives” will matter of factly say “fascism originated in socialism”, citing that mussolini was once a socialist and of course the name of the nazi party had the word ‘socialist’ in it

actual adducements of fact that mussolini repudiated socialism, and that the nazi party repudiated the socialist part of their program before coming to power and never did anything socialist, are to no avail - the brain damage has already taken place…

99 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:18:59pm

re: #96 Nyet

They think that economics (Nazis weren’t free-marketers) trumps ideology. Not really.

I think they really see the National Socialist label and think presto they were socialists. I won’t lie and say the Nazis’ economics were something that mirrors what the right wants but to claim the Nazis were leftist simply because of that label ignores facts.

100 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:20:00pm

re: #98 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

these days i find that “conservatives” will matter of factly say “fascism originated in socialism”, citing that mussolini was once a socialist and of course the name of the nazi party had the word ‘socialist’ in it

actual adducements of fact that mussolini repudiated socialism, and that the nazi party repudiated the socialist part of their program before coming to power and never did anything socialist, are to no avail - the brain damage has already taken place…

There’s also that the Nazis liquidated the part of the party that did take socialism (for Aryans only of course) seriously.

101 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 2, 2015 2:20:29pm

Hobby Lobby totall discriminated against me today. They wouldn’t sell me a rainbow colored chinchilla.

102 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 2:22:12pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

There’s also that the Nazis liquidated the part of the party that did take socialism (for Aryans only of course) seriously.

i expect them soon to put out histories of the 30s claiming that roehm won and controlled hitler from behind the scenes

103 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2015 2:22:27pm

re: #96 Nyet

They think that economics (Nazis weren’t free-marketers) trumps ideology. Not really.

I think you’re giving them too much credit. The deeper thinkers of the Right base it on the use of ‘Sozialistische’.

The Rank and Vile wingnut knows ‘Nazi’ = Bad, and ‘Leftist’ = Bad, so ‘Leftist’ must equal ‘Nazi’ (they’re not good at logic, either).

104 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 2:22:29pm

It may be simpler than he thinks. It’s the hardliner theocratic politicos that could screw up a wet dream.

Senior US official says there is no question Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif has to sell Iranian nuclear deal to his people; ‘His task is not simple or a given; nor is ours’ - @HannahAllam
see original on twitter.com

iranprimer.usip.org

105 Nyet  Apr 2, 2015 2:23:15pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

They did build a welfare state for ethnic Germans. But something tells me that the US right is only against welfare state because they think it “feeds” all those non-white folks, and wouldn’t be against it if it were for whites only.

106 lawhawk  Apr 2, 2015 2:23:17pm

re: #101 GlutenFreeJesus

Hobby Lobby discriminates against Jews - even in areas with significant Jewish populations, they wont carry a single item of Judaica. Goes against their religious beliefs.

But not to worry. It goes against my personal sense of justice to ever give them a single cent of my hard earned money for being a bunch of grabastic bigots.

107 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 2:24:30pm

re: #105 Nyet

They did build a welfare state for ethnic Germans. But something tells me that the US right is only against welfare state because they think it “feeds” all those non-white folks, and wouldn’t be against it if it were for whites only.

The RW in the US would be perfectly comfortable with the Third Reich.

108 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:25:26pm

re: #105 Nyet

They did build a welfare state for ethnic Germans. But something tells me that the US right is only against welfare state because they think it “feeds” all those non-white folks, and wouldn’t be against it if it were for whites only.

This conversation has actually been had before actually and I think it’s quite true. Once the New Deal’s promises were started to be promised to racial minorities is when you saw the raise of the anti “big government” types in the US. Now there always was an anti-New Deal right mind you but it only really took off when the right exploited opposition to the aforementioned.

109 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:26:34pm

re: #103 Blind Frog Belly White

I think you’re giving them too much credit. The deeper thinkers of the Right base it on the use of ‘Sozialistische’.

The Rank and Vile wingnut knows ‘Nazi’ = Bad, and ‘Leftist’ = Bad, so ‘Leftist’ must equal ‘Nazi’ (they’re not good at logic, either).

Kind of like the one time and I know Sergey will love this is when Obama’s use of “czars” was equated to Bolshevism because you know the Romanovs and Bolsheviks, totes bffs!

110 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 2, 2015 2:27:34pm

re: #106 lawhawk

The stuff they sell is outclassed by Dollar General anyway.

111 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2015 2:27:35pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Kind of like the one time and I know Sergey will love this is when Obama’s use of “czars” was equated to Bolshevism because you know the Romanovs and Bolsheviks, totes bffs!

I remember that. Talk about unclear on the concept.

112 Nyet  Apr 2, 2015 2:28:40pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Kind of like the one time and I know Sergey will love this is when Obama’s use of “czars” was equated to Bolshevism because you know the Romanovs and Bolsheviks, totes bffs!

Bush started the whole czar thing, didn’t he?

113 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 2:28:41pm

re: #105 Nyet

They did build a welfare state for ethnic Germans. But something tells me that the US right is only against welfare state because they think it “feeds” all those non-white folks, and wouldn’t be against it if it were for whites only.

the nazis didnt actually add anything to the existing welfare state (such as it was) for germans except for a luxury cruise subsidy

‘socialism’, in any case, strictly speaking, is defined as an economic framework where the state owns and operates all major industries, and the nazis never did anything remotely like that

all other definitions of socialism will cover, to a greater or lesser degree, any government you can think of

ironically, the real originator of the german welfare state was the arch-conservative otto bismark, of whom it was said “he jailed and executed the socialists and then implemented their ideas”

114 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:29:55pm

re: #112 Nyet

Bush started the whole czar thing, didn’t he?

Nah the czars go way back I think as far back as the Wilson years but the term really came into common usage I think in the 80’s with Bill Bennett being one of the first drug czars.

115 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 2:29:57pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Kind of like the one time and I know Sergey will love this is when Obama’s use of “czars” was equated to Bolshevism because you know the Romanovs and Bolsheviks, totes bffs!

i eagerly await the day that i am confidently told that marx invented czars

116 Dr Lizardo  Apr 2, 2015 2:31:11pm

re: #98 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

these days i find that “conservatives” will matter of factly say “fascism originated in socialism”, citing that mussolini was once a socialist and of course the name of the nazi party had the word ‘socialist’ in it

actual adducements of fact that mussolini repudiated socialism, and that the nazi party repudiated the socialist part of their program before coming to power and never did anything socialist, are to no avail - the brain damage has already taken place…

Hitler himself defined ‘socialism’ in more-or-less purely ethnocentric terms. He did so quite explicitly in Mein Kampf, IIRC.

117 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:31:40pm

re: #115 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i eagerly await the day that i am confidently told that marx invented czars

SAUL ALINSKY! But you know another falsehood they push is that the Naziss were “gungrabbers,” In fact, the Nazis relaxed restrictions. They did tighten restrictions on Jews of course. Of course, Nazi domestic policy on guns is totally different than the Nazis invasions of foreign countries that encompassed the vast majority of Holocaust victims.

118 Patricia Kayden  Apr 2, 2015 2:32:45pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel

To illustrate just how crazy the RW fantasy ideologues are, they attach great significance to the timing of the Iran deal announcement, ie the day before Passover, as an “obvious” slap at Israel.

RWers everywhere, Freep, Redstate etc., are running with this. Many see it as coordinated with Obama’s plan to “take out Christians” via the Gaystapo.

This epidemic of violent insanity is looking more and more like a zombie apocalypse every day, except that these zombies can drive and use firearms.

Shrug. So far Jews vote overwhelmingly for Democrats and I don’t see that changing in 2016. Rightwingers are crazy.

But I see a Rabbi on The Ed Show going crazy about the Iran deal (he’s strongly opposed) so perhaps some Rightwingers have a point.

119 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:32:59pm

Fascism is accurately called third way since it’s not really socialistic but it’s not really capitalistic either. If you want proof that fascism is more of the right than the left, you need to look only at the actions of rightists from that era. They weren’t huge on Hitler granted but many of them did think highly of Mussolini and Franco.

120 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 2:34:15pm

Bismarck implemented the world’s first welfare state in the 1880s. He worked closely with large industry and aimed to stimulate German economic growth by giving workers greater security.[65] A secondary concern was trumping the Socialists, who had no welfare proposals of their own and opposed Bismarck’s. Bismarck especially listened to Hermann Wagener and Theodor Lohmann, advisers who persuaded him to give workers a corporate status in the legal and political structures of the new German state.[66] In March 1884, Bismarck declared:

“The real grievance of the worker is the insecurity of his existence; he is not sure that he will always have work, he is not sure that he will always be healthy, and he foresees that he will one day be old and unfit to work. If he falls into poverty, even if only through a prolonged illness, he is then completely helpless, left to his own devices, and society does not currently recognize any real obligation towards him beyond the usual help for the poor, even if he has been working all the time ever so faithfully and diligently. The usual help for the poor, however, leaves a lot to be desired, especially in large cities, where it is very much worse than in the country.”[67]

Bismarck’s idea was to implement welfare programs that were acceptable to conservatives without any socialistic aspects. He was dubious about laws protecting workers at the workplace, such as safe working conditions, limitation of work hours, and the regulation of women’s and child labor. He believed that such regulation would force workers and employers to reduce work and production, and thus harm the economy. Bismarck opened debate on the subject in November 1881 in the Imperial Message to the Reichstag, using the term practical Christianity to describe his program.[68] Bismarck’s program centered squarely on insurance programs designed to increase productivity, and focus the political attentions of German workers on supporting the Junkers’ government. The program included sickness insurance, accident insurance, disability insurance, and a retirement pension, none of which were then in existence to any great degree.

Based on Bismarck’s message, the Reichstag filed three bills to deal with the concepts of accident and sickness insurance. The subjects of retirement pensions and disability insurance were placed on the back-burner for the time being.[69] The social legislation implemented by Bismarck in the 1880s played a key role in the sharp, rapid decline of German emigration to America. Young men considering emigration looked at not only the gap between higher hourly “direct wages” in the United States and Germany but also the differential in “indirect wages”—social benefits, which favored staying in Germany. The young men went to German industrial cities, so that Bismarck’s insurance system partly offset low wage rates in Germany and furthered the fall of the emigration rate.[70]

121 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 2, 2015 2:35:46pm

re: #110 GlutenFreeJesus

The stuff they sell is outclassed by Dollar General anyway.

I have, to be polite, no real sense of taste when it comes to decorating, but the time I went into Hobby Lobby the first thing I thought was “Who in the hell would put this crap in their house?”

When I think it’s tasteless kitsch, then you know it’s bad.

RBS

122 Kragar  Apr 2, 2015 2:36:10pm

Its time for another round of “My Idiot Manager!”

Today’s adventure? METRICS!

So he wants to figure out how many machines we scan in a given task, then figure out how many we don’t have access to, based on a pool of 4 different failed access codes.

Seems simple enough, so how does he want it implemented? He just wants us to add up numbers for 4 those failed access codes to give us the number of failed machines.

Now, I’m sure some of you have already noticed the fundamental flaw with that logic.

A single machine can technically fail access 4 times based on the fail codes.

Which is why, using his methodology on a test scan of 3000 machines, we had 5272 machines which failed access.

I’m not even bothering to bring this up to him. I told the technical lead I’m just plugging in the numbers as I was instructed because its not worth the effort or the headaches trying to correct this moron.

123 #FergusonFireside  Apr 2, 2015 2:36:40pm
124 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:37:09pm

The other bit that differs fascism and Nazism from traiditional European rightism is that neither ideology is really pro-monarchy. Now where things get interesting is how the church is used. Franco was absolutely a clerical fascist as well the Utasse in Croatia but Hitler and Mussolini while they happily used the church to gain and maintain power really didn’t have much personal use for it. It’s always been the subtle differences in how leaders adapt ideologies for their respected countries that fascinates me. Mao’s brand of Marxism for example also is totally different from traditional Marxist theory since Mao used the peasants and not the urban working class his power building block. Granted that was more of a situation that happened due to China during the Chinese civil war following the emperor’s abdication was a very agrarian society.

125 lawhawk  Apr 2, 2015 2:38:02pm

re: #122 Kragar

Sounds like your manager is CEO material.

126 Tigger2  Apr 2, 2015 2:38:43pm

re: #118 Patricia Kayden

Shrug. So far Jews vote overwhelmingly for Democrats and I don’t see that changing in 2016. Rightwingers are crazy.

But I see a Rabbi on The Ed Show going crazy about the Iran deal (he’s strongly opposed) so perhaps some Rightwingers have a point.

I wish Ed would quit having that idiot on he’s nuts.

127 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2015 2:39:52pm

re: #122 Kragar

Its time for another round of “My Idiot Manager!”

Today’s adventure? METRICS!

It must be this year’s buzzword in management circles. I had to deal with this, too. I had to provide ‘metrics’, but nobody defined what it was that they wanted measured.

128 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:40:24pm

re: #126 Tigger2

I wish Ed would quit having that idiot on he’s nuts.

I’ve never been that big on Ed honestly myself.

129 Dr Lizardo  Apr 2, 2015 2:40:29pm

And so, goodnight Lizards, wherever in the world you may be.

130 Varek Raith  Apr 2, 2015 2:41:08pm

re: #122 Kragar

Its time for another round of “My Idiot Manager!”

Today’s adventure? METRICS!

So he wants to figure out how many machines we scan in a given task, then figure out how many we don’t have access to, based on a pool of 4 different failed access codes.

Seems simple enough, so how does he want it implemented? He just wants us to add up numbers for 4 those failed access codes to give us the number of failed machines.

Now, I’m sure some of you have already noticed the fundamental flaw with that logic.

A single machine can technically fail access 4 times based on the fail codes.

Which is why, using his methodology on a test scan of 3000 machines, we had 5272 machines which failed access.

I’m not even bothering to bring this up to him. I told the technical lead I’m just plugging in the numbers as I was instructed because its not worth the effort or the headaches trying to correct this moron.

You don’t work for Cryptic, do you???
/

131 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 2:41:13pm

re: #116 Dr Lizardo

Hitler himself defined ‘socialism’ in more-or-less purely ethnocentric terms. He did so quite explicitly in Mein Kampf, IIRC.

do you have a cite or quote for that?

132 Tigger2  Apr 2, 2015 2:41:40pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

I’ve never been that big on Ed honestly myself.

I meant that Rabbi Ed keeps having on.

133 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:41:59pm

re: #132 Tigger2

I meant that Rabbi Ed keeps having on.

I know what you meant. I was just saying I don’t think much of Ed himself.

134 Varek Raith  Apr 2, 2015 2:42:13pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

I’ve never been that big on Ed honestly myself.

He’s like a lefty lite version of Hannity.
Way too bombastic and loud.

135 TedStriker  Apr 2, 2015 2:43:10pm

re: #12 allegro

I’ve never seen anyone polish a turd, but I’ve watched a dung beetle roll one. Pretty sure that’s more interesting than a Beck-Greenwald jerk fest.

MythBusters prove that one can indeed polish a turd.

136 Kragar  Apr 2, 2015 2:43:16pm

re: #127 Blind Frog Belly White

It must be this year’s buzzword in management circles. I had to deal with this, too. I had to provide ‘metrics’, but nobody defined what it was that they wanted measured.

We had a team call this morning, and we were talking about how we currently had 4 different spreadsheets going around and weren’t sure which one he wanted us to use, because he’ll tell one person to add and remove something but won’t pass that info to everyone. We asked him which one he wanted us to use

His reply? “The team will work that out. Lets move on.”

137 Tigger2  Apr 2, 2015 2:43:22pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

I know what you meant. I was just saying I don’t think much of Ed himself.

LOL yep Ed can go out in left field sometimes but on the most part I like were he stands on Labor and Unions in the country.

138 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:44:18pm

re: #134 Varek Raith

He’s like a lefty lite version of Hannity.
Way too bombastic and loud.

Yeah that turns me off.

139 Lidane  Apr 2, 2015 2:44:35pm

What could possibly go wrong?

140 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:45:10pm

re: #137 Tigger2

LOL yep Ed can go out in left field sometimes but on the most part I like were he stands on Labor and Unions in the country.

It is refreshing to see someone in the media stand up loudly and proudly for the unions and labor that’s for sure though. There’s been too much anti-union propaganda pushed on this country for too long.

141 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 2:45:26pm

re: #139 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

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142 Varek Raith  Apr 2, 2015 2:45:29pm

Why can’t I open carry a sword???

143 allegro  Apr 2, 2015 2:46:30pm

re: #142 Varek Raith

Why can’t I open carry a sword???

You could put someone’s eye out.

144 TedStriker  Apr 2, 2015 2:47:15pm

re: #77 RealityBasedSteve

And it’s a known fact that two Asians don’t produce Caucasians, hence the saying “Two Wongs don’t make a white”.

RBS

*groan*

145 Varek Raith  Apr 2, 2015 2:47:25pm

re: #143 allegro

You could put someone’s eye out.

Yeah, but 2nd Amendment1!!/lskdjh

146 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 2, 2015 2:47:26pm

At least they know how to do shots in Russia. No, wait. In Russia, shots do you!

…

147 Kragar  Apr 2, 2015 2:47:46pm
148 Tigger2  Apr 2, 2015 2:49:17pm

re: #147 Kragar

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The stupid burns on that one.

149 Nyet  Apr 2, 2015 2:50:00pm

re: #113 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

I would recommend Götz Aly’s Hitler’s Beneficiaries: Plunder, Racial War, and the Nazi Welfare State, which documents why and how the Nazis developed their welfare state. At the conclusion of the book he states:

At the beginning of this book, the question was posed as to how the Nazi regime was able to achieve such a high level of domestic political stability. In practice, the uneasy marriage of sophisticated financial expertise and the politics of popular opinion oriented around the welfare of the masses proved remarkably fruitful. The Nazi leaders were constantly handing out benefits to ordinary Germans, keeping them remarkably well fed and well supplied. At the same time, those who possessed the financial know-how compensated as best they could for the state’s generosity. They kept increasing taxes on Germany’s wealthy, not because they thought that made the most sense but because it was the only option for raising taxes at all within the country. They forcibly introduced means of non-currency payment into occupied countries to restrict the amount of cash in circulation and whenever possible imposed new taxes on foreign citizens. Professional considerations prompted them to encourage the dispossession of Europe’s Jews in order to put the brakes on inflationary pressure.

[…]

Only the uneasy cooperation of both of these policy-making camps ensured that equilibrium would be maintained. Realism and apolitical expertise merged with a racist ideology bent on creating a welfare state for the benefit of ethnically “pure” Germans. It was in the interaction of these two elements—neither of which would have functioned on its own—that National Socialism developed its destructive potential.

150 Lidane  Apr 2, 2015 2:53:34pm

RWNJ dipshits telling me the following bits of derp:

1. The opposition by the RW nutcases to fixing the Indiana RFRA was all a ruse to get Big Gay to shut up.

2. Even with the fixes, nothing in the law has changed so why are Big Gay making a big deal out of anything?

3. ZOMG PENCE CHOSE MONEY AND GAYS OVER THE BABY JESUS!

These people are certifiable. What reality do they live in?

151 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 2:53:48pm

The State and the ‘Logic’ of Racism.

“The current political conception of the world is that the State, though it possesses a creative force, which can build up civilizations, has nothing in common with the concept of race as the foundation of the State. The State is considered rather as something which has resulted from economic necessity, or, at best, the natural outcome of the play of political forces and impulses.” —Hitler

Hitler himself grew up under the rule of a multiethnic state and all it’s inherent conflicts. His lifelong yearning for a greater Germany, where ethnic Germans exclusively convey and control all political and cultural pursuits, made acceptance of the egalitarian principle of statehood undesirable. Since politics in public is an ass riding a donkey, particularly in a setting such as the Austria-Hungary legislative branch where perhaps as many as a dozen different languages prevailed among the representatives (translators outnumbered legislators), Hitler found it easy to disparage the entire, admittedly failed, system. Skipping most of that (about a quarter of chapter one is consumed with it), what Hitler needed was a more traditional tribal state.

“Such a conception of the foundations of the State, together with all its logical consequences, not only ignores the primordial racial forces that underlie the State, but it also leads to a policy in which the importance of the individual is minimized. If it be denied that races differ from one another in their powers of cultural creativeness, then this same erroneous notion must necessarily influence our estimation of the value of the individual.” —Hitler

The very first primitive political groupings resembling functional states were of necessity mono-ethnic, a state Hitler romanticized, while ignoring the historical reality of the evident superiority of variations of the egalitarian state in the ancient and modern world (see the Roman Empire, Bismarck’s Reich, the British Empire, etc.). He emphasizes race as a primordial force and utilizes this racial state construct to justify his vision of a greater, mono-ethnic Germany, as well as a foundation for a rationalization of racism.

He begins with a ‘truth.’

“Therefore on the volkisch principle we cannot admit that one race is equal to another.” —Hitler

comicism.tripod.com

152 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 2, 2015 2:57:09pm

Baby Clouded Leopards born at the Nashville Zoo in March. Too cute, I let out a manly and baritone pitched “SQUEEEEE”.

153 De Kolta Chair  Apr 2, 2015 2:57:29pm
154 makeitstop  Apr 2, 2015 2:58:48pm

re: #112 Nyet

Bush started the whole czar thing, didn’t he?

The term has been in use here since the 1930s.

155 Nyet  Apr 2, 2015 3:01:40pm

re: #154 makeitstop

Used in the UK too…

156 De Kolta Chair  Apr 2, 2015 3:02:08pm

re: #147 Kragar

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Georgia florist’s religious hypocrisy: She’ll serve adulterers, but gay couples are ‘a different kind of sin’

Though Mr. Christ said nothing about gays, adultery was one of his major bugbears. He droned on and on about it, which might explain why he never married.

157 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 3:02:32pm

re: #149 Nyet

I would recommend Götz Aly’s Hitler’s Beneficiaries: Plunder, Racial War, and the Nazi Welfare State, which documents why and how the Nazis developed their welfare state. At he conclusion of the book he states:

i would recommend richard evan’s ‘the third reich in power’ where he explicitly takes up the subject of whether or not the nazis added anything to the social welfare already existing in germany, or did anything to implement socialism under the dictionary definition of nationalizing industry or restricting private property

amazon.com

the book was researched and written in the last 15 years and so is aware of the spurious ideas about nazism and ‘socialism’ - under whatever definition you want to locate the word - which is why he feels the need to subject the question to detailed research

mr. aly’s statements seem to me to be rather on the vague side. it certainly could not be said that the nazis created a welfare state in germany, since in the sense of pensions and health insurance subsidized with taxes, these things had already existed for decades. as for ‘handing out benefits’, perhaps he could supply some detail on what he might mean by that other than the handing out of plunder which the nazis did in the manner of pirates or roman conquerors more than anything else

as for, again, the dictionary definition of socialism - so far from nationalizing anything, the private industrialists in germany during the 30s were ecstatic with how much money they were making from the giant contracts that the nazi government handed out like chocolates

krupp, daimler, messerschmidt, and many others - nazi germany was a paradise for big private corporations

158 wrenchwench  Apr 2, 2015 3:04:12pm

re: #153 De Kolta Chair

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159 Nyet  Apr 2, 2015 3:07:15pm

re: #157 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

perhaps he could supply some detail

Perhaps you could read the book.

160 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 3:07:16pm

re: #157 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“krupp, daimler, messerschmidt, and many others - nazi germany was a paradise for big private corporations”

Necessary collaborators, of course, for the Nazi war machine and the 1000 yr Reich, doncha know. And most survive today.

161 Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2015 3:09:50pm

“The law does not allow discrimination! Now allow me to pass a ‘clarification’ that will prevent discrimination!”

162 TedStriker  Apr 2, 2015 3:10:18pm

re: #110 GlutenFreeJesus

The stuff they sell is outclassed by Dollar General anyway.

And that’s saying something.

/looking in the general direction of Dollar General’s HQ here in town…

163 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 3:10:57pm

White House says President Obama spoke with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu after Iranian nuclear agreement reached; readout of call to be released later - @WhiteHouse
end of alert

164 Varek Raith  Apr 2, 2015 3:11:25pm

Any DBZ fans here?
…
XD

165 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 3:13:49pm

Editor’s note: The ‘religious freedom’ bill signed by Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson today more closely mirrors federal law, officials said. Hutchinson refused to sign the original law given to him on Wednesday due to fears that it could allow for businesses to discriminate against LGBT customers. The new bill states that the law does not allow businesses to refuse to serve any minority groups. - Jillian
read more on nbcnews.com

166 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2015 3:14:58pm

re: #147 Kragar

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Right. One of these ‘sins’ was actually called out in the 10 Commandments. The other wasn’t.

167 Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2015 3:15:00pm

re: #163 Justanotherhuman

White House says President Obama spoke with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu after Iranian nuclear agreement reached; readout of call to be released later - @WhiteHouse
end of alert

“Sorry, Bibi, I’m having trouble hearing you. I’m getting a lot of bullshit on this line.”

168 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 2, 2015 3:16:45pm

Had an interesting occurance at the shop this afternoon. I stopped in to drop off some prints from the dive trip, owner asked me to cover for a few minutes, he had a couple of errands to run. No problem.

Guy comes in with a tank he wanted filled. Now tanks need a hydrostatic test every 5 years, and an annual visual inspection yearly. I can’t fill it if it doesn’t meet those. The hydro date was Apr 08, and the last Visual was 2013. The biggest problem is that he had bought it from the owner of the OTHER dive shop in town last month and was assured that it was ready for use. He uses them for filling high powered Air Rifles (not your old pump-up pellet gun by any measure) for target shooting.

I was dealing as diplomatically as I could with the problem when the owner came back, and we all agreed the best thing was to rent him a tank for the weekend, and that he should take the matter up with the owner of the other shop. Of course it’s possible that he was mistaken in what he understood, but the fact that a new (used) tank had an expired hydro and an out of date vis while being sold is almost unthinkable. It’s not like it’s a major expense, especially considering the shop can do the vis in house. (Hydro needs special and expensive equipment, everybody farms it out to the people who have the equipment)

All those years teaching seems to have sharpened up my “Soft Skills”, since everybody walked away as happy as the situation allowed.

RBS

169 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 3:17:40pm

Why do they even call it that? The Constitution guarantees the free exercise of religion in the First Amendment. What the hell needs to be “restored”, anyway?

INDIANA RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT
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Indiana Gov. Mike Pence on ‘religious freedom’ law: ‘Over the past week this law has become a subject of great misunderstanding and controversy across our state and nation. However we got here, we are where we are, and it is important that our state take action to address the concerns that have been raised and move forward’
end of alert

170 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 3:17:54pm

re: #159 Nyet

Perhaps you could read the book.

evans specifies the luxury cruise benefit as the only tangible addition that the nazis made to the social welfare policies already available to the german working class at the time he came to power. of course, hitler also banned all existing labor unions

but as i said before, social welfare programs of some kind are literally universal today, and i don’t accept the existence of them as constituting a socialist state or an identification of a government with socialism…

…unless you want to say that the main goal of karl marx was to bring tax funded retirement pensions, health insurance, and unemployment compensation to the workers of the world, and that therefore socialism has triumphed everywhere

no, the real demarcation between industrialized democracies with social insurance programs and socialist states lies in the ownership and operation of industry and food production by the state, and the abolition of private companies

the soviet union and communist china implemented ‘dictionary’ socialism. the nazis did not.

bismark introduced significant new social welfare programs in germany. the nazis did not

171 wrenchwench  Apr 2, 2015 3:23:46pm

Oh, Arizona.

172 De Kolta Chair  Apr 2, 2015 3:24:39pm

re: #169 Justanotherhuman

Why do they even call it that? The Constitution guarantees the free exercise of religion in the First Amendment. What the hell needs to be “restored”, anyway?

I wonder if the RW knows that the origin of this whole magilla was mostly about workers rights, non-Christian tribal beliefs and rituals, and peyote buttons — things I’m pretty sure they’re not big fans of.

173 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2015 3:24:55pm

re: #170 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

but as i said before, social welfare programs of some kind are literally universal today, and i don’t accept the existence of them as constituting a socialist state or an identification of a government with socialism…

…unless you want to say that the main goal of karl marx was to bring tax funded retirement pensions, health insurance, and unemployment compensation to the workers of the world, and that therefore socialism has triumphed everywhere

That is precisely how most wingnuts I’ve ever talked to define Socialism, but then they will next say that the fall of the USSR and the ‘Capitalization’ of the PRC prove that Socialism doesn’t work. They always feel free to define ‘socialism’ as ‘whatever I want it to mean’, but then apply any ‘conclusions’ across all definitions. It makes trying to discuss any social welfare programs with them a waste of time.

174 Nyet  Apr 2, 2015 3:25:10pm

re: #170 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

I don’t know who are you even arguing with. I haven’t said anything about socialism. Again, if you want details, read the book.

175 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 2, 2015 3:25:52pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

Oh, Arizona.

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Oh, you don’t understand, it’s only good when smaller govt believes the way they do, otherwise it’s all wrong. That’s why they maintain that that there needs to be a constitutional amendment on marriage, because only the Federal govt. can protect the rights. (unless it’s Obama, then it doesn’t count).

RBS

176 wrenchwench  Apr 2, 2015 3:28:43pm

re: #168 RealityBasedSteve

Had an interesting occurance at the shop this afternoon. I stopped in to drop off some prints from the dive trip, owner asked me to cover for a few minutes, he had a couple of errands to run. No problem.

Guy comes in with a tank he wanted filled. Now tanks need a hydrostatic test every 5 years, and an annual visual inspection yearly. I can’t fill it if it doesn’t meet those. The hydro date was Apr 08, and the last Visual was 2013. The biggest problem is that he had bought it from the owner of the OTHER dive shop in town last month and was assured that it was ready for use. He uses them for filling high powered Air Rifles (not your old pump-up pellet gun by any measure) for target shooting.

I was dealing as diplomatically as I could with the problem when the owner came back, and we all agreed the best thing was to rent him a tank for the weekend, and that he should take the matter up with the owner of the other shop. Of course it’s possible that he was mistaken in what he understood, but the fact that a new (used) tank had an expired hydro and an out of date vis while being sold is almost unthinkable. It’s not like it’s a major expense, especially considering the shop can do the vis in house. (Hydro needs special and expensive equipment, everybody farms it out to the people who have the equipment)

All those years teaching seems to have sharpened up my “Soft Skills”, since everybody walked away as happy as the situation allowed.

RBS

Wanna work in a bike shop? You’d be great!

177 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2015 3:29:46pm

re: #175 RealityBasedSteve

Oh, you don’t understand, it’s only good when smaller govt believes the way they do, otherwise it’s all wrong. That’s why they maintain that that there needs to be a constitutional amendment on marriage, because only the Federal govt. can protect the rights. (unless it’s Obama, then it doesn’t count).

RBS

The other day, I was discussing trying to discuss the ACA with a wingnut, who tried to pull the ‘Romney care was at the STATE level, which is okay, but the ACA is at the FEDERAL level, which is tyranny’.

Clearly, the idea that requiring individuals to have health insurance is DESPOTIC TYRANNY!!! at the Federal level, but completely fine at the State level is nonsense, and of course he wouldn’t address that point.

178 wrenchwench  Apr 2, 2015 3:31:53pm

re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White

The other day, I was discussing trying to discuss the ACA with a wingnut, who tried to pull the ‘Romney care was at the STATE level, which is okay, but the ACA is at the FEDERAL level, which is tyranny’.

Clearly, the idea that requiring individuals to have health insurance is DESPOTIC TYRANNY!!! at the Federal level, but completely fine at the State level is nonsense, and of course he wouldn’t address that point.

It worked across state lines for me, too. Oh tyranny of tyrannies!

179 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 3:37:10pm

re: #170 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Socialism can’t be pinned down by simply saying that the state owns the socialized means of production. There are varying degrees of socialism, social democrats, communists, etc, which cannot all be lumped together as the same “socialism”. Some forms of socialism have production outside the state’s authority (even if heavily regulated) and profits go to individuals; others can be operated on a cooperative basis, with profits shared, or the State manages production and collects profits. A mix of economic, social and governmental functions in a state can determine for itself whether or not it considers itself “socialist”, most, though, have a very defined safety net that assists those who cannot work—children, the aged, the disabled.

180 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2015 3:43:29pm

re: #179 Justanotherhuman

Socialism can’t be pinned down by simply saying that the state owns the socialized means of production. There are varying degrees of socialism, social democrats, communists, etc, which cannot all be lumped together as the same “socialism”. Some forms of socialism have production outside the state’s authority (even if heavily regulated) and profits go to individuals; others can be operated on a cooperative basis, with profits shared, or the State manages production and collects profits. A mix of economic, social and governmental functions in a state can determine for itself whether or not it considers itself “socialist”, most, though, have a very defined safety net that assists those who cannot work—children, the aged, the disabled.

This is the problem. The word, which originally meant something, now has essentially no meaning. Well, SOME meaning - “not just letting rich people fuck over everyone else.”

181 Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2015 3:46:19pm
182 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 3:46:48pm

re: #179 Justanotherhuman

Socialism can’t be pinned down by simply saying that the state owns the socialized means of production. There are varying degrees of socialism, social democrats, communists, etc, which cannot all be lumped together as the same “socialism”. Some forms of socialism have production outside the state’s authority (even if heavily regulated) and profits go to individuals; others can be operated on a cooperative basis, with profits shared, or the State manages production and collects profits. A mix of economic, social and governmental functions in a state can determine for itself whether or not it considers itself “socialist”, most, though, have a very defined safety net that assists those who cannot work—children, the aged, the disabled.

i just go by what marx, lenin, mao, and merriam-webster have to say about it:

socialism
noun so*cial*ism ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm

: a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

Full Definition of SOCIALISM
1
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2
a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3
: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

i know that it is common usage to say that an activity is ‘socialized’ when it is operated by the state, as in social security, medicare, etc in this country, and i am not disputing that usage - although you would have to say that we have a socialist armed forces if you want to stick to this definition literally…

but i like to be as clear as possible about which ‘socialism’ we are talking about at any given moment

183 No Country For Old Haters  Apr 2, 2015 3:49:03pm
184 blueraven  Apr 2, 2015 3:49:33pm

Charles Krauthammer really does not like the Iran deal.

Who could have seen that coming? //

185 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 3:50:32pm

re: #180 Blind Frog Belly White

This is the problem. The word, which originally meant something, now has essentially no meaning. Well, SOME meaning - “not just letting rich people fuck over everyone else.”

Yeah, that. Capitalism gone way too far to sustain most of us, considering the vast chasm between worker and capitalist incomes. And too little analysis of why this is so, just ” “not just letting rich people fuck over everyone else.” Simple resentment solves nothing.

186 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 3:53:56pm

re: #181 Charles Johnson

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Fake cliffhangers…

187 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 3:57:16pm

I have a feeling that call didn’t go too well…

In call with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, President Obama underscores progress in nuclear talks doesn’t diminish concerns over Iran’s threats towards Israel - @WhiteHouse

Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu on Iranian nuclear agreement: ’ This deal would legitimize Iran’s nuclear program, bolster Iran’s economy and increase Iran’s aggression and terror. … The alternative is standing firm and increasing the pressure on Iran until a better deal is achieved’ - @MarkRegevPMO
end of alert

Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu tells President Obama that Iran nuclear deal with current framework would threaten survival of Israel - @MarkRegevPMO

188 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 3:58:41pm

President Obama directs national security team to increase consultations with Israeli government to attempt to strengthen security cooperation with Israel and counter Iran’s threats - @WhiteHouse
end of alert

189 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 3:59:57pm

Yet, the Iranian people seem to be rejoicing.

190 Varek Raith  Apr 2, 2015 4:00:07pm

Shut up, Bibi.
Nothing short of full war would’ve been good enough for you.

191 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2015 4:00:08pm

re: #185 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, that. Capitalism gone way too far to sustain most of us, considering the vast chasm between worker and capitalist incomes. And too little analysis of why this is so, just ” “not just letting rich people fuck over everyone else.” Simple resentment solves nothing.

The problem is seeing Capitalism as a belief system, and not as a tool. It’s a great tool for the creation of wealth and to reward hard work, innovation, and risktaking. But the problem is, mostly, it rewards having money. Left to itself it increasingly rewards being rich, and decreasingly rewards what we want it to.

Somewhere along the line, too many people came to see it as an end in itself.

192 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 4:00:58pm
193 Nyet  Apr 2, 2015 4:02:05pm

Bibi can’t stand that he has egg on his face. His whole policy is predicated on scaremongering.

194 Kragar  Apr 2, 2015 4:02:20pm
195 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2015 4:04:37pm

re: #194 Kragar

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But they put ‘Menendez’ and ‘scandal’ in the same sentence, so it’s totally their article that did it.

196 darthstar  Apr 2, 2015 4:04:39pm
197 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 4:06:34pm

Woot!

Netflix says ‘House of Cards’ reviewed for 4th season - @HouseofCards
end of alert

198 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2015 4:07:11pm

wah wah wah…

199 darthstar  Apr 2, 2015 4:07:12pm
200 Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2015 4:07:13pm
201 Varek Raith  Apr 2, 2015 4:07:16pm

Here’s what the warmongers refuse to accept;
Stopping Iran’s program via the military will require a full occupation of the country and replacing the government.
Anything less than that would be unsuccessful in stopping their program. It’ll ensure they get a bomb.

202 wrenchwench  Apr 2, 2015 4:08:56pm

This will get the attention of the deniers:

203 Varek Raith  Apr 2, 2015 4:10:38pm

re: #202 wrenchwench

This will get the attention of the deniers:

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Bring on an ice age!
/

204 wrenchwench  Apr 2, 2015 4:11:22pm

re: #203 Varek Raith

Bring on an ice age!
/

Or at least an ice brick!

205 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 2, 2015 4:11:26pm

re: #201 Varek Raith

Here’s what the warmongers refuse to accept;
Stopping Iran’s program via the military will require a full occupation of the country and replacing the government.
Anything less than that would be unsuccessful in stopping their program. It’ll ensure they get a bomb.

But we’ll be greeted as liberators, and rose pedals, and stuff….

I swear, having had people shoot in my general direction with bad intent, no RWNJ should be allowed to advocate for war unless he personally has heard the “crack” of rifle rounds coming at you.

/rant

RBS

206 Nyet  Apr 2, 2015 4:13:36pm

re: #204 wrenchwench

Or at least an ice brick!

This one needs at least 3.

207 Justanotherhuman  Apr 2, 2015 4:14:33pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm…and have a beer.

208 Nyet  Apr 2, 2015 4:14:42pm

re: #205 RealityBasedSteve

But we’ll be greeted as liberators, and rose pedals, and stuff….

I swear, having had people shoot in my general direction with bad intent, no RWNJ should be allowed to advocate for war unless he personally has heard the “crack” of rifle rounds coming at you.

/rant

RBS

Bomb Bomb Bomb McCain has learned that torture is bad, but that’s that.

209 darthstar  Apr 2, 2015 4:15:13pm
210 darthstar  Apr 2, 2015 4:17:10pm
211 Kragar  Apr 2, 2015 4:23:10pm
212 wrenchwench  Apr 2, 2015 4:25:33pm
213 EmmaAnne  Apr 2, 2015 4:26:18pm

re: #199 darthstar

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That seems like a really dickish thing to do to your kid to me.

214 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 4:28:43pm

growl growl growl ok sorry if i have been cranky and argumentative today

it’s these damn punks and their yah yah music yanno it makes me crazy

215 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 2, 2015 4:28:45pm

re: #205 RealityBasedSteve

But we’ll be greeted as liberators, and rose pedals, and stuff….

I swear, having had people shoot in my general direction with bad intent, no RWNJ should be allowed to advocate for war unless he personally has heard the “crack” of rifle rounds coming at you.

/rant

RBS

War is hell and combat is a motherfucker. The only thing that the chickenhawks have ever fought for is air because their heads are up their asses.

216 goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2015 4:34:11pm

re: #209 darthstar

What’s all this then?

Appearing yesterday on CNN, Senator Tom Cotton (R) urged critics of Indiana’s “religious freedom” law to get “perspective,” suggesting the treatment of LGBT people in Indiana compared favorably to countries where gay people are executed.

“I think it’s important we have a sense of perspective,” Cotton said. “In Iran they hang you for the crime of being gay.”

HAHAHA WOW! Way to lower the bar Tom.

Dear gay people, be happy we aren’t allowed to kill you.

217 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 2, 2015 4:36:45pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

What’s all this then?

HAHAHA WOW! Way to lower the bar Tom.

Dear gay people, be happy we aren’t allowed to kill you.

Not if you’re a Freeper….

To: Mmogamer
I can”t wait until ALL HOMOSEXUALS ARE ASHES UNDER OUR FEET !
15 posted on 4/2/2015, 6:25:06 PM by Yosemitest (It’s Simple ! Fight, … or Die !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

218 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2015 4:40:34pm

re: #197 Justanotherhuman

Woot!

Netflix says ‘House of Cards’ reviewed for 4th season - @HouseofCards
end of alert

Great. Now I have to wait another whole damn year!

219 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 2, 2015 4:42:47pm

re: #202 wrenchwench

This will get the attention of the deniers:

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Awww! He’s so cute and furry! Don’t you want to pet him?

220 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2015 4:43:12pm

INDIANAPOLIS — NCAA President Mark Emmert said Thursday he would not rule out moving the organization’s headquarters from Indianapolis and said the association would look more closely at potentially discriminatory laws before awarding bids for future championship sites.

During a news conference before the Final Four, he said that a controversial Indiana law that would allow businesses to refuse service to individuals on the basis of sexual orientation was a more important issue than basketball.

“If I believed we couldn’t conduct our affairs in any place in a fashion that didn’t prohibit discrimination against people for any number of reasons, then I would surely recommend that we move,” Emmert said. “I hope that we don’t find ourselves in that place.”

221 Nyet  Apr 2, 2015 4:51:58pm

re: #219 Blind Frog Belly White

Awww! He’s so cute and furry! Don’t you want to pet him?

Chuck?

//

222 b.d.  Apr 2, 2015 4:52:58pm

The wingnuts really are scared of peace for some reason, aren’t they?

223 ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2015 4:54:02pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

What’s all this then?

HAHAHA WOW! Way to lower the bar Tom.

Dear gay people, be happy we aren’t allowed to kill you.

Tom Cotton: “I think it’s important we have a sense of perspective,” Cotton said. “In Iran they hang you for the crime of being gay.”

He’s agreeing that it is a crime, isn’t he?

Ordinarily, I’d excuse it as bad usage of words, but in Cotton’s pea brain you have to think he used the word “crime” on purpose.

And even if he hates Iran, I bet he is found of that punishment for being gay.

224 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 4:55:21pm

re: #222 b.d.

The wingnuts really are scared of peace for some reason, aren’t they?

war not happening IT CAN ONLY BE A TRICK

225 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 4:58:40pm

re: #209 darthstar

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Could he be any more of a condescending dick? Yet another GOP gem Cotton is.

226 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 5:03:03pm

re: #217 RealityBasedSteve

Not if you’re a Freeper….

That sadly isn’t an uncommon view on FR and you know it’s a view many evangelicals are okay with too per Lively’s efforts in Uganda.

227 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2015 5:05:16pm
228 HappyWarrior  Apr 2, 2015 5:06:10pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good luck with that Scott.

229 b_sharp  Apr 2, 2015 5:10:34pm

re: #219 Blind Frog Belly White

Awww! He’s so cute and furry! Don’t you want to pet him?

Not in the slightest.

Squish.

230 Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2015 5:20:06pm
231 Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2015 5:25:53pm
232 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 2, 2015 5:26:45pm

power blinking, best shut things down.

laterz…

233 EPR-radar  Apr 2, 2015 5:27:41pm

re: #230 Charles Johnson

Then why on earth is GG spending time with Glenn Beck? What relevance does that have to dealing with injustice?

234 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 2, 2015 5:27:58pm

re: #201 Varek Raith

Like they care. They nor any of their loved ones would ever set foot into a war zone.

235 EPR-radar  Apr 2, 2015 5:29:25pm

re: #234 GlutenFreeJesus

Like they care. They nor any of their loved ones would ever set foot into a war zone.

It’s worse than that. For many of the war mongers, war is a very profitable enterprise.

236 Charles Johnson  Apr 2, 2015 5:35:11pm
237 b.d.  Apr 2, 2015 5:38:58pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

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I had almost forgotten what an obnoxious, hypocritical douche Glenn is

238 b.d.  Apr 2, 2015 5:46:13pm

I have not watched Beck since he got his own network (and didn’t watch him before either) Any chance he grills Greenwald on anything?

239 PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2015 5:46:29pm

Two Glenn’s for the price of one. It is not a good deal any way you use it.

240 b.d.  Apr 2, 2015 5:48:33pm

re: #239 PhillyPretzel

Two Glenn’s for the price of one. It is not a good deal any way you use it.

I would imagine that a Which Glenn Said It quiz could be quite entertaining

241 PhillyPretzel  Apr 2, 2015 5:49:58pm

re: #240 b.d.

It could be.

242 thedopefishlives  Apr 2, 2015 5:53:51pm

Evening Lizardim.

243 Tigger2005  Apr 2, 2015 5:56:16pm

Off topic, but I am seeing a lot of stuff about a study by Bjorn Stevens at Max Planck Institute on “aerosol forcing.” Can’t follow it very well, but it’s splashed all over climate change denial sites as a “game changer” and something that will leave climate change “zealots” and “alarmists” flat-footed. That kind of terminology of course raises a lot of red flags … not exactly sober scientific talk. Anyone know about this study?

244 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 2, 2015 5:57:05pm

and speaking of violating one’s religious convictions, yanno what annoys me?

it’s considered impolite not to return a salutation of ‘merry christmas’

im not sure exactly what i would like to say in return, but it aint that

mebbe something like ‘see ya at the top of the mountain at midnight for the goat sacrifice’

245 Skip Intro  Apr 2, 2015 5:58:06pm

re: #243 Tigger2005

Will it make it rain in California? That’s all I care about.

246 Tigger2005  Apr 2, 2015 5:59:11pm

Sorry, no clue.

re: #245 Skip Intro

Will it make it rain in California? That’s all I care about.

247 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 2, 2015 6:01:31pm

re: #244 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

and speaking of violating one’s religious convictions, yanno what annoys me?

it’s considered impolite not to return a salutation of ‘merry christmas’

im not sure exactly what i would like to say in return, but it aint that

mebbe something like ‘see ya at the top of the mountain at midnight for the goat sacrifice’

I’ve always just smiled and said “And Seasons Greetings to you”.

RBS

248 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 2, 2015 6:01:52pm

re: #235 EPR-radar

Oh, that’s a given.

249 Belafon  Apr 2, 2015 6:02:01pm

re: #213 EmmaAnne

That seems like a really dickish thing to do to your kid to me.

I call my kids out all the time in public, because they need to learn not to say stupid stuff. I think he did the right thing.

250 ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2015 6:02:46pm

re: #244 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

and speaking of violating one’s religious convictions, yanno what annoys me?

it’s considered impolite not to return a salutation of ‘merry christmas’

im not sure exactly what i would like to say in return, but it aint that

mebbe something like ‘see ya at the top of the mountain at midnight for the goat sacrifice’

Go with Bah Humbug!

It’s seasonal.

251 Khal Wimpo  Apr 2, 2015 6:07:07pm

re: #205 RealityBasedSteve

But we’ll be greeted as liberators, and rose pedals, and stuff….

I swear, having had people shoot in my general direction with bad intent, no RWNJ should be allowed to advocate for war unless he personally has heard the “crack” of rifle rounds coming at you.
RBS

Way too easy to puff out your chest when you’ve never had the feeling of suddenly being weightless, drifting in an out-of-body experience as everything slows down…

I’m not one of those dingbats who holds that only vets & those who serve in the military should be allowed in decision-making roles. But it would have made me a lot more confident in the lead-up to Iraq War II if there’d been anyone other than Colin Powell who had actually seen action.

And yeah - compare and contrast the countries. Iraq: flat, pop of 33M. Iran: mountain country, pop of ~75M.

Lots of flag-draped boxes coming home if the RWNJs get their way.

252 leftynyc  Apr 3, 2015 4:49:40am

re: #15 The Week Of No Pie

The suitcase was at the Prague airport THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME. We were reunited in time to arrive in Tel Aviv together.

We are now in Jerusalem with all the baggage. Nothing is missing (that we have noticed) but TSA literally left a calling card.

So sorry you weren’t able to really enjoy Prague waiting around for luggage that was always at the airport but am green with envy that you’re in the Holy Land for Pesach. Wishing you and those you love a wonderful holiday. I’ll be begging for suggestions on restaurants and some perhaps off the beaten track things to do when I go to Israel in October.

253 Tigger2  Apr 4, 2015 10:06:19am

I’m shocked that pizza places gofundme page might be a scam. /////

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