Columbia Journalism School Review Finds “Major Failures” in Rolling Stone’s UVA Rape Story

All she had to do was call
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As we noted last December, Rolling Stone asked the Columbia Journalism School to do a complete independent review of their disastrous story about rape at the University of Virginia; tonight that report has been released, and it’s pretty damning: Major ‘Failures’ Found in Rolling Stone’s ‘A Rape on Campus.’

An institutional failure at Rolling Stone resulted in a deeply flawed article about a purported gang rape at the University of Virginia, according to an outside review by Columbia Journalism School professors.

The review, published Sunday night, says the failures were sweeping — they “encompassed reporting, editing, editorial supervision and fact-checking — and “may have spread the idea that many women invent rape allegations.”

And it all could have been avoided if the writer, Sabrina Rubin Erdely, had contacted more sources.

In short: all she had to do was call.

“The editors invested Rolling Stone’s reputation in a single source,” Columbia’s 12,866-word report concludes.

The author, Sabrina Rubin Erdely, has released an abject apology for the piece; obviously, she’s painfully aware that she may have given ammunition to the right wingers and men’s rights activists who reflexively claim all rape stories are made up:

Rolling Stone has published the full report here: Rolling Stone and UVA: The Columbia School of Journalism Report.

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624 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 5:32:09pm
2 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2015 5:32:24pm

Typo in third line: “Universion of Virginia”

3 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 5:34:22pm

Will read it tomorrow. But: it sucks that no heads will roll.

4 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 5:35:20pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Quick editing gets ya every time.

5 goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2015 5:35:45pm

Just got a DM from someone who has submitted a FOIA request to the FTC, looking to see if Craig Brittain has disclosed his links to Chuck.

Me, right now.
6 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 5:36:26pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I have to agree with Ed Bott on this:

7 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 5:36:29pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

I always knew you were cute, furry and evil.

8 b.d.  Apr 5, 2015 5:38:27pm

re: #3 Nyet

Will read it tomorrow. But: it sucks that no heads will roll.

They have to put up with Matt Taibbi again, that should be punishment enough and it is almost a fitting misogynist albatross to hang around their neck.

9 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 5:38:38pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Just got a DM from someone who has submitted a FOIA request to the FTC looking to see if Craig Brittain has disclosed his links to Chuck.

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Eeeexcellent.

10 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 5, 2015 5:38:46pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Just got a DM from someone who has submitted a FOIA request to the FTC looking to see if Craig Brittain has disclosed his links to Chuck.

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Rocket buddy! How’s Groot’s regrowing coming along?

11 Justanotherhuman  Apr 5, 2015 5:39:19pm

Even if you, the reporter, are an actual eye witness, a single source is never enough.

Erdely, an experienced reporter, really should have known better. You leave yourself open to being conned, just for starters.

We’ll probably never know the truth.

12 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 5:40:46pm

re: #11 Justanotherhuman

This. The fuck-up of such a magnitude is on par with outright lying.

13 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 5:41:36pm

re: #11 Justanotherhuman

Even if you, the reporter, are an actual eye witness, a single source is never enough.

Erdely, an experienced reporter, really should have known better. You leave yourself open to being conned, just for starters.

We’ll probably never know the truth.

We should note that the police investigation did not find that the whole story was made up; they said something probably did happen, but they couldn’t confirm it went down like the RS story reported it.

Eventually Jackie Coakley may come forward and tell her story. I don’t blame her for wanting to stay away from the media piranhas right now, though.

14 b.d.  Apr 5, 2015 5:42:37pm

re: #12 Nyet

This. The fuck-up of such a magnitude is on par with outright lying.

Agreed. Isn’t people claiming to have done their job and not lying?

15 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 5:43:49pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Something might have happened to her, and if so, Erdely brought more harm on her with this reporting.

16 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 5:44:56pm

re: #15 Nyet

And she’s painfully aware of that. Here’s Erdely’s apology:

17 b_sharp  Apr 5, 2015 5:47:18pm

I just learned from my son that last week my daughter-in-law, while working extremely long days on The 100, fell asleep at the wheel on the way home and got in an accident. She’s OK, but the car was totaled.

18 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 5:48:29pm

re: #17 b_sharp

Cursed winter…

19 b_sharp  Apr 5, 2015 5:50:38pm

re: #18 Nyet

Cursed winter…

Damn, summer better get here fast before anything else happens.

20 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 5:50:43pm

If Rolling Stone decides to fire Erdely for this, fine - it’s their decision to make. But I’m not going to call for her head, for making what appears to be a well-intentioned but ultimately disastrous mistake.

21 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 5, 2015 5:50:59pm

re: #17 b_sharp

I just learned from my son that last week my daughter-in-law, while working extremely long days on The 100, fell asleep at the wheel on the way home and got in an accident. She’s OK, but the car was totaled.

This is just not your day is it? Best wishes. Glad your DiL is OK, and your father (so far so good).

22 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 5:52:34pm
23 b_sharp  Apr 5, 2015 5:52:37pm

re: #21 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This is just not your day is it? Best wishes. Glad your DiL is OK, and your father (so far so good).

I blame karma.

24 KingKenrod  Apr 5, 2015 5:52:37pm

re: #17 b_sharp

I just learned from my son that last week my daughter-in-law, while working extremely long days on The 100, fell asleep at the wheel on the way home and got in an accident. She’s OK, but the car was totaled.

Were you aware the same thing happened to a crew member on Longmire recently? The crew member died.

25 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 5:53:12pm

re: #17 b_sharp

Wow, dude. Not a good day. Glad to hear she’s OK, though.

26 b_sharp  Apr 5, 2015 5:53:35pm

re: #24 KingKenrod

Were you aware the same thing happened to a crew member on Longmire recently? The crew member died.

Nope.

27 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 5:54:03pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

I would have been more tolerant if she weren’t a veteran journalist.

28 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2015 5:54:22pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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29 KingKenrod  Apr 5, 2015 5:54:41pm

re: #26 b_sharp

Nope.

Yes - a Teamster driving home after an 18 hour shift, in New Mexico.

30 b_sharp  Apr 5, 2015 5:54:58pm

re: #24 KingKenrod

Were you aware the same thing happened to a crew member on Longmire recently? The crew member died.

She was working 14 hr days.

That’s way too long.

31 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 5, 2015 5:55:21pm

Does this strike anybody but me like Chevy Chase’s “corrections” on Weekend Update?

32 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2015 5:55:37pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

If Rolling Stone decides to fire Erdely for this, fine - it’s their decision to make. But I’m not going to call for her head, for making what appears to be a well-intentioned but ultimately disastrous mistake.

I’m hoping that doesn’t happen, primarily because of the inevitable CCJ gloatfest that will immediately follow.

33 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 5:55:44pm

I just tend to be more forgiving of honest mistakes, I guess.

34 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 5:56:38pm

Malicious behavior, though, gets me breathing fire.

35 b_sharp  Apr 5, 2015 5:57:20pm

re: #29 KingKenrod

Yes - a Teamster driving home after an 18 hour shift, in New Mexico.

Wow. That’s crappy.

This was in Vancouver while she was crossing a bridge.

36 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 5:58:32pm

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m hoping that doesn’t happen, primarily because of the inevitable CCJ gloatfest that will immediately follow.

Letting internet upchucks rule one’s world is not the best way… I couldn’t care less how they react.

37 goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2015 5:58:41pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

If Rolling Stone decides to fire Erdely for this, fine - it’s their decision to make. But I’m not going to call for her head, for making what appears to be a well-intentioned but ultimately disastrous mistake.

In any event it’s really her editors who should probably be fired. They’re the one’s paid to review & vet submissions, exercise judgement and restraint, make sure material to be published adheres to standard practices, and act in the institution’s best interests as its firewall against exactly this sort of sloppy journalism.

38 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:00:03pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

Exactly. Pinning this whole thing on Erdely is very short-sighted. This is a failure all the way up the editorial chain.

39 Justanotherhuman  Apr 5, 2015 6:00:48pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I agree with that and the police actually said something “terrible” had probably happened to her. But this wasn’t the usual fact-filled, straight reportage of a rape. This was fleshed out from the “single source” and filled in, not with actual witnesses to a crime, but advocates of rape prevention on campus, acquaintances of hers, and others appalled by the story of what Jackie alleged happened. I’m not going to say Jackie lied, I’m just saying that Erdely herself could have done a much better, less amateurish investigation, if she had not written the story, as she intended, simply from the POV of the victim. This, IMHO, was the fatal flaw in the entire story.

Furthermore, it appalls me that these kinds of horrendous criminal activities involving students are handled almost exclusively by the colleges, who have a lot to lose, rather than by local law enforcement, and I think that is to the detriment of the victims.

40 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:00:56pm

“Say what you know, do what you must, come what may.” ~ someone

41 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2015 6:01:14pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Malicious behavior, though, gets me breathing fire.

And that’s the difference between CCJ and the Reporter’s actions regarding this story:

- The reporter got sloppy and eventually got caught but she offered a formal apology and appears remorseful and willing to accept the consequences of her actions. The editors are also at fault for not properly verifying/fact checking the story.

- Chuck just went full on asshole mode, doxxed a woman he claimed was “Jackie” without any verification whatsoever. He didn’t do ANY of the things an actual ethical journalist would do AND he has no regrets whatsoever for any of his actions no matter how damaging or malicious they are.

This is one of many reasons why Chuck, despite what he believes of himself, will never be an actual legitimate journalist. You see, no editor in his (or her) right fucking mind would put up with CCJ’s antics for very long. So he’s relegated to being his own editor and ruining people’s lives on his shitty little blog. There’s a good reason why, in the traditional editorial structure, the editor and journalist on a story should NOT be the same person. Perspective is important. One set of eyes only is seldom the best choice on a story.

42 #FergusonFireside  Apr 5, 2015 6:01:27pm

re: #17 b_sharp

I just learned from my son that last week my daughter-in-law, while working extremely long days on The 100, fell asleep at the wheel on the way home and got in an accident. She’s OK, but the car was totaled.

Dude.

43 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:02:25pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

That whole nest should probably be fired.

44 ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2015 6:03:47pm

We have too few journalists now. Maybe a reformed one on a renewed mission might just be needed. Hard lessons can be fine tool sharpeners.

45 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2015 6:03:51pm

re: #37 goddamnedfrank

In any event it’s really her editors who should probably be fired. They’re the one’s paid to review & vet submissions, exercise judgement and restraint, make sure material to be published adheres to standard practices, and act in the institution’s best interests as its firewall against exactly this sort of sloppy journalism.

I think a lot of this flies out the window in a “must get the story first/desperate for clicks” environment.

And that’s a damned shame.

46 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:04:10pm
47 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2015 6:05:01pm

Good grief, CCJ got on the fucking BBC? How in the world did that happen?

48 goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2015 6:05:41pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Malicious behavior, though, gets me breathing fire.

“Any sufficiently advance incompetence is indistinguishable from actual malice.”
-Grey’s Law.

Okay, that’s kind of trite and bullshit, but it explains a lot of the ire directed at Erdely. Anyway, like I said, it’s the editorial chain of command that really owns this debacle.

49 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:06:00pm

When upchuck was saying that, the story was already crumbling. In fact, he was saying that because it was crumbling. What a nitwit.

50 #FergusonFireside  Apr 5, 2015 6:06:08pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

If Rolling Stone decides to fire Erdely for this, fine - it’s their decision to make. But I’m not going to call for her head, for making what appears to be a well-intentioned but ultimately disastrous mistake.

The scoop in journalism has become a huge money maker (killer of all things good)

They hear the story, they BELIEVE it without the basic journalistic strategy of confirming the source.

I’ll never forget the time I learned of the term “the get” it’s all about the mouthpiece getting the money maker, being it Barbara Walters, Katie Couric et al. They want the GET. They give a shit about the story.

Money/page hits/publicity rules.

51 #FergusonFireside  Apr 5, 2015 6:06:46pm

re: #23 b_sharp

I blame karma.

WTF did they do? No, don’t tell.

52 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:07:01pm

You know Chuck is reading my tweets, but he’s playing dumb. Please retweet these, folks! Let’s make it harder for him to ignore it.

53 goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2015 6:07:21pm
54 ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2015 6:07:57pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Exactly. Pinning this whole thing on Erdely is very short-sighted. This is a failure all the way up the editorial chain.

Wasn’t the main part of the story in the movie “Almost Famous” about Rolling Stone killing the main character’s first big article because the band denied all the stories?

Kinda funny it was movie theme and now this.

55 #FergusonFireside  Apr 5, 2015 6:08:13pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Exactly. Pinning this whole thing on Erdely is very short-sighted. This is a failure all the way up the editorial chain.

Money. The greed for money.

56 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:08:15pm

re: #50 #FergusonFireside

Rathergate. (The diff is that Erdely at least didn’t go into the denial mode. But the initial fuck up looks the same.)

57 b.d.  Apr 5, 2015 6:08:17pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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Chuckie, nobody remembers the guy who followed Stanley’s trail and wandered into Livingstone’s camp a week after Stanley arrived.

58 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:09:52pm

re: #55 #FergusonFireside

Money. The greed for money.

Exactly right. The real lesson from the debacle is how the lust for clicks at any cost has corrupted journalism.

59 KingKenrod  Apr 5, 2015 6:10:02pm

re: #35 b_sharp

Wow. That’s crappy.

This was in Vancouver while she was crossing a bridge.

Sounds very fortunate she wasn’t hurt.

60 b.d.  Apr 5, 2015 6:10:10pm

Chuck C is starting to sound like the Brian Williams of the blogging world.

61 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:11:11pm

re: #60 b.d.

More like Baron Münchhausen.

62 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:11:34pm
63 Belafon  Apr 5, 2015 6:12:16pm

re: #56 Nyet

Rathergate. (The diff is that Erdely at least didn’t go into the denial mode. But the initial fuck up looks the same.)

Rather’s firing was about more than punishing him.

As a software developer, my belief is that a success belongs to the person who made it, and a mistake - not a intentional fuck up but a mistake - is the fault of the entire chain involved in development.

64 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2015 6:12:35pm

re: #47 Eclectic Cyborg

Good grief, CCJ got on the fucking BBC? How in the world did that happen?

It’s that lunatic William Stauff.

65 ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2015 6:13:47pm

re: #61 Nyet

More like Baron Münchhausen.

And Leonard Zelig.*

*Woody Allen Movie character.

66 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:15:58pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s that lunatic William Stauff.

Yup. William Stauff is a big fan of the Ginger Grifter.

67 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:16:00pm

re: #65 ObserverArt

Sometimes he looks like a David Duke larva,

68 Justanotherhuman  Apr 5, 2015 6:17:16pm

re: #63 Belafon

Rather’s firing was about more than punishing him.

As a software developer, my belief is that a success belongs to the person who made it, and a mistake - not a intentional fuck up but a mistake - is the fault of the entire chain involved in development.

Sometimes, especially in advocacy journalism, this kind of mistake is a feature, not a bug.

69 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:17:56pm
70 ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2015 6:18:12pm

re: #67 Nyet

Sometimes he looks like a David Duke larva,

Duke was whiter…and blonde. Blondes have more fun.

/

71 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2015 6:19:24pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Exactly right. The real lesson from the debacle is how the lust for clicks at any cost has corrupted journalism.

It really has. Screaming, outlandish and overhyped headlines leading to stories featuring quotes, comments and videos either edited or twisted or completely taken out of context.

It’s no longer about how good a story can you FIND, it’s about how sensational a story can you FABRICATE.

72 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2015 6:20:12pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Yup. William Stauff is a big fan of the Ginger Grifter.

Stauff also loves tagging all his tweets with Chuck’s name to drive hits to his own stupid podcasts.

73 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:21:19pm

Sorry, but what work did he did on UVA except for misidentifying a woman?

74 Romantic Heretic  Apr 5, 2015 6:21:38pm

re: #17 b_sharp

I just learned from my son that last week my daughter-in-law, while working extremely long days on The 100, fell asleep at the wheel on the way home and got in an accident. She’s OK, but the car was totaled.

Damn. Glad she’s okay.

75 Belafon  Apr 5, 2015 6:22:09pm

re: #73 Nyet

Sorry, but what work did he did on UVA except for misidentifying a woman?

He grifted. And if you like it, he’d love it if you would make a donation.

76 teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2015 6:22:37pm
77 WhatEVs  Apr 5, 2015 6:23:12pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Just got a DM from someone who has submitted a FOIA request to the FTC, looking to see if Craig Brittain has disclosed his links to Chuck.

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You’re Rocket from Guardians of the Galaxy? //

78 b_sharp  Apr 5, 2015 6:24:00pm

re: #57 b.d.

Chuckie, nobody remembers the guy who followed Stanley’s trail and wandered into Livingstone’s camp a week after Stanley arrived.

You mean William the Follower?

He was always late.

79 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:24:10pm
80 WhatEVs  Apr 5, 2015 6:24:53pm

re: #10 William Barnett-Lewis

Shit! Shudda kept reading.

81 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 5, 2015 6:26:32pm

re: #80 WhatEVs

Shit! Shudda kept reading.

That racoon picture was pure Rocket though, wasn’t it?

82 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:26:44pm

One of his tags under that story: UNIVERSITY OF VIRGNIA

83 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:28:30pm

LOVE YOUR SHOW MAN

84 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:29:05pm

Chuck identifies the real victims.

85 Justanotherhuman  Apr 5, 2015 6:29:26pm

Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring on Rolling Stone’s retraction of UVA rape story: ‘Rolling Stone’s failures have put survivors in a more difficult position, shaken a university community, and injected doubt at a moment when we are finally building national momentum around efforts to end campus sexual violence’ - @AGMarkHerring
see original on twitter.com

86 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:29:42pm
to achieve their Agenda

Agenda 21?

87 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:30:16pm

He’s going to be spewing idiocy like this all night.

88 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2015 6:31:17pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

He’s going to be spewing idiocy like this all night.

It’s ok…he’s tweeting from his bathroom.

89 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:32:17pm

OK, I just went through his UVA postings. Maybe he identified Jackie’s full name (though I can’t be sure he didn’t steal this from someone), but he wasn’t able to do anything else with this clue. Except misidentifying another woman as Jackie.

90 WhatEVs  Apr 5, 2015 6:32:27pm

re: #81 William Barnett-Lewis

That racoon picture was pure Rocket though, wasn’t it?

Sure was.

Just watched GOTG for the 3rd time, too. Definitely Rocket.

91 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:32:28pm
92 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 5, 2015 6:33:13pm

re: #86 Nyet

Agenda 21?

Gay Agenda 21 Club?

RBS

93 teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2015 6:33:20pm

Joe Rogan retweeted UpChuck.

94 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:36:35pm

Chuck’s now searching old tweets and posting them.

95 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2015 6:37:39pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Chuck’s now searching old tweets and posting them.

Well, at least his wife will get an uninterrupted night’s sleep tonight.

96 Belafon  Apr 5, 2015 6:37:49pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

Ever wonder how Men can be raped by women?

I’m pretty sure by being forced to have sex against their will. Chuck’s probably still waiting to have sex.

97 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:38:24pm
98 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2015 6:39:37pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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Well, he did retweet an old tweet of Kragar’s linking to a post here.
One degree of separation…

99 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2015 6:40:25pm

In case anyone missed it downstairs, Chuck is tweeting from his secret bunker tonight:

100 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 5, 2015 6:40:30pm

re: #90 WhatEVs

Sure was.

Just watched GOTG for the 3rd time, too. Definitely Rocket.

“A little of both”

101 Decatur Deb  Apr 5, 2015 6:42:10pm

re: #47 Eclectic Cyborg

Good grief, CCJ got on the fucking BBC? How in the world did that happen?

They thought he looked Scottish.

102 jaunte  Apr 5, 2015 6:42:21pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

“wife stuff”

What a twerp.

103 Justanotherhuman  Apr 5, 2015 6:42:32pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm…

104 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:42:52pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s ok…he’s tweeting from his bathroom.

Reminds me of one scene from Idiocracy…

105 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:43:25pm

Voices…

106 b_sharp  Apr 5, 2015 6:43:36pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

In case anyone missed it downstairs, Chuck is tweeting from his secret bunker tonight:

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What the hell is wife stuff?

107 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:45:05pm
108 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:45:07pm

re: #106 b_sharp

What the hell is wife stuff?

You know, dog stuff, wife stuff.

109 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:45:36pm
110 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 6:46:27pm

What. A. Creep.

111 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2015 6:46:59pm

Oh, yeah…he’s drunk in the bathroom…

112 b_sharp  Apr 5, 2015 6:47:14pm

re: #108 Nyet

You know, dog stuff, wife stuff.

Took his wife out for a walk with a plastic bag in his pocket?

113 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 5, 2015 6:48:05pm

re: #112 b_sharp

Took his wife out for a walk with a plastic bag in his pocket?

Should be the other way around, by all reports….

114 De Kolta Chair  Apr 5, 2015 6:48:12pm
115 teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2015 6:49:11pm

I went ahead and replied to the tweet Joe Rogan retweeted.

116 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:49:27pm

re: #112 b_sharp

Took his wife out for a walk with a plastic bag in his pocket?

It sounded like he did.

117 De Kolta Chair  Apr 5, 2015 6:51:30pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

As Editor of a magazine w/ a circulation roughly equal to Rolling Stone’s I only ever fired one staffer.

Nice to know that us graphic designers are under the wire.

/snark to the nth power and beyond

But seriously, we graphic artists and designers are fucked, deeply and truly fucked. And what’s worse, we’re not getting a dime for getting deeply and truly fucked, but hey what else is new?

Btw, did I mention we’re getting deeply fucked?

118 jaunte  Apr 5, 2015 6:52:19pm
119 teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2015 6:53:06pm

Oh my word. UpChuck’s Twitter feed is just…I mean, how can he be so horrible? What a miserable shitstain UpChuck is. Just disgusting!

120 goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2015 6:54:04pm

re: #89 Nyet

OK, I just went through his UVA postings. Maybe he identified Jackie’s full name (though I can’t be sure he didn’t steal this from someone), but he wasn’t able to do anything else with this clue. Except misidentifying another woman for Jackie.

He claims to have called her parent’s house, or at least someone he thought could be them, for whatever that’s worth.

121 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:54:21pm

Maybe he just gave her some skin lotion.

122 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2015 6:54:35pm
123 goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2015 6:55:53pm

re: #121 Nyet

Maybe he just gave her some skin lotion.

In a basket?

124 Nyet  Apr 5, 2015 6:56:44pm

…

125 PhillyPretzel  Apr 5, 2015 6:57:30pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

CCJ is the one who is dangerous. He is playing with other people’s lives. When is this sorry excuse of a person going to shut up?

126 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 7:00:00pm
127 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2015 7:02:36pm

I swear, sooner or later he’s going to cross the wrong person.

The results will be…interesting.

128 b.d.  Apr 5, 2015 7:02:51pm

Hey Joe Rogan: if you subvertly booked Chuck for a UFC bout under the pretenses of him doing an interview, I’d pay to watch it.

129 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 5, 2015 7:07:09pm

re: #128 b.d.

Hey Joe Rogan: if you subvertly booked Chuck for a UFC bout under the pretenses of him doing an interview, I’d pay to watch it.

I think he’d do very well against Ronda Rousey. In fact, I think that it should be promoted and billed as the first “Intergender Ultimate Fighting Championship”. I, for one, would gladly PPV it.

RBS
/who would take “Rousey by Submission in under 1 minute 30 seconds” bet all day long

130 b.d.  Apr 5, 2015 7:07:51pm

re: #129 RealityBasedSteve

I think he’d do very well against Ronda Rousey. In fact, I think that it should be promoted and billed as the first “Intergender Ultimate Fighting Championship”. I, for one, would gladly PPV it.

RBS
/who would take “Rousey by Submission in under 1 minute 30 seconds” bet all day long

That whole fight wouldn’t fill a Vine.

131 makeitstop  Apr 5, 2015 7:09:33pm

re: #47 Eclectic Cyborg

Good grief, CCJ got on the fucking BBC? How in the world did that happen?

I actually got on the Beeb once, talking about the ‘miserable failure’ Google bomb. Granted, it was 9:00 here in NY when I was interviewed so I was on air while most of their listeners were asleep.

But it did happen, so anything is possible.

132 goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2015 7:12:02pm

re: #128 b.d.

Hey Joe Rogan: if you subvertly booked Chuck for a UFC bout under the pretenses of him doing an interview, I’d pay to watch it.

Hunter Walker has issued an open invitation to Chuck for a charity fight.

133 teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2015 7:16:36pm
134 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 7:21:54pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

Chuck just dropped the whole idea of fighting Hunter as soon as Hunter proposed an actual fight for charity. Chuck would have gotten his ass beaten - Hunter is a black belt in Karate who fights in competitions.

135 Great White Snark  Apr 5, 2015 7:27:52pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Way too real for Chuck. The ring is one of those places where bullshit simply ceases to exist.

136 makeitstop  Apr 5, 2015 7:29:29pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Chuck just dropped the whole idea of fighting Hunter as soon as Hunter proposed an actual fight for charity. Chuck would have gotten his ass beaten - Hunter is a black belt in Karate who fights in competitions.

Did CCJ actually call him out for a fight, or was he just being his sniping, nasty little self?

Not that it matters. Either one would be a wonderful pretext for Chuckie to catch a beating. I never watch boxing or any type of fighting competitions, but I would pay a premium to be able to watch and record it.

137 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 5, 2015 7:30:40pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Every rape incident is a hoax, but Allen West allegedly grabbing a woman’s boob is totes for real, because reasons.

138 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 7:32:33pm
139 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 5, 2015 7:34:44pm

re: #131 makeitstop

I actually got on the Beeb once, talking about the ‘miserable failure’ Google bomb. Granted, it was 9:00 here in NY when I was interviewed so I was on air while most of their listeners were asleep.

But it did happen, so anything is possible.

I was on the Beeb, too. Someone found I had blogged about Bill Clinton’s visit to North Korea and they asked me to participate in an on-air discussion. A few months later, they contacted me about another issue, but I knew nothing about it, so thus ended my BBC career as a roving commentator.

Or a raving commentator. Maybe I could replace Jeremy Clarkson. I like cars …

140 andres  Apr 5, 2015 7:35:06pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

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Apparently the account no longer exists.

141 goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2015 7:35:07pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

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Looks like it’s already been banned/suspended.

142 goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2015 7:40:35pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

Nope, it’s still up. Charles you typed footbails, not footbaiis. That’s why no link was created.

143 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 5, 2015 7:42:12pm

Freepers are really enjoying this fiasco. I’ll spare you the details.

144 De Kolta Chair  Apr 5, 2015 7:43:36pm
145 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 7:45:22pm
146 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 7:46:06pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

Copying and pasting this name is not working for some reason. That’s OK - he’s not going to last long.

147 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 7:46:59pm

Here’s the impersonator to report: @Green_FootbaIIs

148 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 7:49:57pm
149 Varek Raith  Apr 5, 2015 7:50:38pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

Here’s the impersonator to report: @Green_FootbaIIs

Done.

150 lostlakehiker  Apr 5, 2015 7:51:37pm

Well, I recall getting roundly downdinged for noting that the Washington Post had had some misgivings about the story. And later, for asserting that it was clear the case had collapsed.

There’s some stories that are just such a perfect fit for what people already believe.

It is not nearly as easy to know, right away, the truth of claims of outrageous wrongdoing, as it seems. People of all political persuasions fall into the trap, but the bait differs. The Jew did it. The Black did it. The rich white fratboys did it.

And to complicate things more, sometimes that’s exactly what happened. That’s why we have courts. That’s why we gather evidence, cross check who said what and how it stacks up to the forensic evidence, and maintain a guarded reserve while the evidence rolls in. If we have the patience. Not that I’ve been the model of patience, guarded reserve, etc. It’s not always easy to do what’s right, even when in the back of your mind you kind of sort of know.

151 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 7:55:03pm

Oh, for Pete’s sake.

152 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2015 7:55:38pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

Oh, for Pete’s sake.

You’re not maintaining a guarded reserve, Charles. Tsk tsk.

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153 De Kolta Chair  Apr 5, 2015 7:55:40pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

Here’s the impersonator to report: @Green_FootbaIIs

He’s like David Frye, only with a lot more alcoholism and absolutely no talent.

154 Kragar  Apr 5, 2015 7:57:26pm

CCJ retweeted this from me earlier

155 Belafon  Apr 5, 2015 7:59:20pm

I want an alphabet where the symbols are distinct. Also, things like b, p, d, and q should not be allowed (they’re just rotations and reflections of each other). I and l (eye and el) would not exist together.

156 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 5, 2015 8:04:06pm

re: #155 Belafon

I want an alphabet where the symbols are distinct. Also, things like b, p, d, and q should not be allowed (they’re just rotations and reflections of each other). I and l (eye and el) would not exist together.

This is one reason why serif fonts are easier to read: I and l are more distinct.

157 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 8:05:11pm

The impersonator is history.

158 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 5, 2015 8:08:52pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

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Sans-serif fonts ruin another life! Where will it end?

159 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 8:13:01pm
160 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 5, 2015 8:13:43pm

re: #156 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This is one reason why serif fonts are easier to read: I and l are more distinct.

I should have refreshed first.

161 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 8:17:26pm

Chuck has a weird disturbing habit of calling his male critics “honey.”

162 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 8:20:43pm
163 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 5, 2015 8:21:33pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

Chuck has a weird disturbing habit of calling his male critics “honey.”

He has “honeyed” me on at least one occasion. Maybe he picked up the habit in West Hollywood, where he learned all about Teh Gheys and how they hug and shit.

164 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 8:27:29pm
165 retired cynic  Apr 5, 2015 8:28:44pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

Dear God. Whatever he is drinking is not mixing well with his meds!

166 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 8:29:21pm

Chuck is getting a huge amount of shit for trying to claim victory on the Rolling Stone story. His tweets are getting more and more deranged.

167 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 5, 2015 8:30:01pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

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I’ve learned that media won’t give you credit for scalps if you’re not on their team. So it’s time to up my game & build a slaughterhouse.

The most you can afford is a pit, Chuckles—get over yourself.

And don’t let your inlaws catch you digging in their basement.

168 TedStriker  Apr 5, 2015 8:33:35pm

re: #167 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The most you can afford is a pit, Chuckles—get over yourself.

And don’t let your inlaws catch you digging in their basement.

Could this be Chuck’s endgame?

/half

169 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2015 8:36:02pm

re: #168 TedStriker

Could this be Chuck’s endgame?

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/half

“It gives the credit to Gotnews or else it gets the hose again!”

170 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 5, 2015 8:36:53pm

re: #168 TedStriker

Could this be Chuck’s endgame?

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/half

I sometimes worry about HotAsianWife™, to tell you the truth. I don’t think she really knows what she’s gotten herself into.

171 Kragar  Apr 5, 2015 8:37:57pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

172 stpaulbear  Apr 5, 2015 8:44:49pm

re: #170 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I sometimes worry about HotAsianWifeTM, to tell you the truth. I don’t think she really knows what she’s gotten herself into.

If I were to bet money on it, I’d bet that the asian wife has a card up her sleeve that CJJ is completely naive about. Chuckie stirs up the shit too much and she’s going leave him with boot marks tattooed to his ass.

173 TedStriker  Apr 5, 2015 8:45:36pm

re: #172 stpaulbear

If I were to bet money on it, I’d bet that the asian wife has a card up her sleeve that CJJ is completely naive about. Chuckie stirs up the shit too much and she’s going leave him with boot marks tattooed to his ass.

From your lips to God’s ears.

174 jaunte  Apr 5, 2015 8:46:31pm

re: #170 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I sometimes worry about HotAsianWifeTM, to tell you the truth. I don’t think she really knows what she’s gotten herself into.

He’s already hiding in the bathroom most of the day and night. She’ll be ok.

175 Kragar  Apr 5, 2015 8:47:01pm

re: #172 stpaulbear

The good news for CCJ is CA prisons allow conjugal visits.

The bad news for CCJ is his wife doesn’t.

/rimshot

176 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 5, 2015 8:47:17pm

re: #17 b_sharp

I just learned from my son that last week my daughter-in-law, while working extremely long days on The 100, fell asleep at the wheel on the way home and got in an accident. She’s OK, but the car was totaled.

I’m sending you and yours good wishes.

177 stpaulbear  Apr 5, 2015 8:47:49pm

re: #171 Kragar

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If he works it right with Hormel, his slaughterhouse can produce SPAM.

178 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 5, 2015 8:49:55pm

re: #171 Kragar

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A slaughterhouse made of cardboard? His domain is now for sale for “Make an offer.”

179 goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2015 8:50:00pm
180 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 8:51:55pm

He’s actually going there.

181 BeachDem  Apr 5, 2015 8:56:59pm

He’s so fucking full of himself, his skin is going to burst.

Now he’s going to go after Kirsten Gillibrand.

The “truth squad”—it is to laugh.

182 Kragar  Apr 5, 2015 8:57:29pm
183 A Cranky One  Apr 5, 2015 8:58:27pm

Chuckles is a sadist who wants to hurt everyone who doesn’t acknowledge his greatness (i.e. the whole world). And he wants credit when any of his targets gets hurt, even if he wasn’t in any way responsible. His role models are all bullies and he desperately wants to be a bully. But who would be intimidated by such a joke? That is why he likes to attack victims and women, people who he thinks can’t or won’t respond to his attempted bullying. A bully wanna be who is thwarted by his inability to intimidate.

I’d ignore him, but frankly I think he is dangerous. And honestly, he’s amusing in a perverse way. I also believe that he serves a useful purpose; he’s a mirror for the right wing to look into and see where they’re headed. One can only hope that a few people on the right would see what they’ve created and realize the bankruptcy of their policies and positions. Okay, maybe not. ;)

184 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 5, 2015 9:01:00pm

re: #183 A Cranky One

Chuckles is a sadist who wants to hurt everyone who doesn’t acknowledge his greatness (i.e. the whole world). And he wants credit when any of his targets gets hurt, even if he wasn’t in any way responsible. His role models are all bullies and he desperately wants to be a bully. But who would be intimidated by such a joke? That is why he likes to attack victims and women, people who he thinks can’t or won’t respond to his attempted bullying. A bully wanna be who is thwarted by his inability to intimidate.

I’d ignore him, but frankly I think he is dangerous. And honestly, he’s amusing in a perverse way. I also believe that he serves a useful purpose; he’s a mirror for the right wing to look into and see where they’re headed. One can only hope that a few people on the right would see what they’ve created and realize the bankruptcy of their policies and positions. Okay, maybe not. ;)

So he’s Grover Dill? But he looks more like Scut Farkus.

185 b_sharp  Apr 5, 2015 9:01:20pm

Who is this truth squid of which he speaks?

186 Dexter's New Approach  Apr 5, 2015 9:01:27pm

John Oliver’s interview with Snowden was one of the most bizarre things I’ve seen in a long time.

Oliver cleverly mocks Snowden’s missteps and paints him as kind of a clown while also addressing the real concerns with the NSA.

187 BeachDem  Apr 5, 2015 9:02:03pm

He certainly can claim one title—biggest whiner on the intertubes. (And with Sarah Palin in the competition, it was a hard-fought battle.)

188 Snarknado!  Apr 5, 2015 9:07:52pm

re: #186 Dexter’s New Approach

Greetings, hatchling. Did you bring donuts?

189 retired cynic  Apr 5, 2015 9:11:17pm

re: #188 Snarknado!

If he’s like me, he snuck in quietly and ate them in the corner.

190 A Cranky One  Apr 5, 2015 9:12:53pm

re: #186 Dexter’s New Approach

Greetings hatchling. If you don’t have donuts, good craft beers or pie are also acceptable.

191 jaunte  Apr 5, 2015 9:15:53pm

re: #190 A Cranky One

If you don’t have donuts, good craft beers or pie are also acceptable.

The best part is, you just have to talk about them. Or pictures.

192 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 5, 2015 9:18:41pm

re: #186 Dexter’s New Approach

Welcome! I’m looking forward to hearing more from you.

193 Kragar  Apr 5, 2015 9:19:15pm
194 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 9:21:56pm
195 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 9:22:12pm
196 De Kolta Chair  Apr 5, 2015 9:23:50pm
197 A Cranky One  Apr 5, 2015 9:24:28pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

But they’re discussing him in college journalism courses. Oh wait….

198 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 9:26:16pm
199 Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2015 9:27:33pm

...

200 BeachDem  Apr 5, 2015 9:34:20pm

Oh good grief

201 Dexter's New Approach  Apr 5, 2015 9:39:14pm

(sigh) Sorry to say, not new. I got a new computer and couldn’t remember my password here, so it was just easier to register new. I was formally “Jocko’s Rocket Ship”.

I’ll try to be better under my new name.

202 Kragar  Apr 5, 2015 9:40:00pm
203 De Kolta Chair  Apr 5, 2015 9:44:53pm
REUTERS — Fidel Castro offers his condolences to a fellow Kentucky U fan.

Go Badgers!

204 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 5, 2015 9:47:50pm

re: #186 Dexter’s New Approach

John Oliver’s interview with Snowden was one of the most bizarre things I’ve seen in a long time.

Oliver cleverly mocks Snowden’s missteps and paints him as kind of a clown while also addressing the real concerns with the NSA.

re: #190 A Cranky One

Greetings hatchling. If you don’t have donuts, good craft beers or pie are also acceptable.

Welcome Aboard. If you don’t have donuts, craft beer or pie, we also accept gifts of top quality camera lenses, Canon preferred.

RBS

205 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 5, 2015 9:50:42pm

re: #202 Kragar

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Once again my adopted state manages to surpass even my low expectations of their politicians.

RBS

206 A Cranky One  Apr 5, 2015 9:55:05pm

re: #201 Dexter’s New Approach

(sigh) Sorry to say, not new. I got a new computer and couldn’t remember my password here, so it was just easier to register new. I was formally “Jocko’s Rocket Ship”.

I’ll try to be better under my new name.

So no donuts, beer or pie? Get off my lawn.
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207 TedStriker  Apr 5, 2015 10:01:20pm

re: #205 RealityBasedSteve

Once again my adopted state manages to surpass even my low expectations of their politicians.

RBS

Try living here your whole life, though this kind of lunacy has really only reared its ugly head over the past decade or two (and moreso since Bredesen left the governor’s mansion a few years ago), as the TN GOP has taken over the executive and legislative branches (and work to sink their claws into the judiciary).

You know as well as I do that the TN Democratic Party, while pretty dominant in the large urban areas such as here in Nashville and in Memphis, is outmanned and outgunned in the exurbs (such as Franklin/Williamson County, one of the wealthiest areas in the country) and rural areas. This gives the TN GOP the numerical advantage statewide, which is why we currently have Haslam in the governor’s mansion right now and a state legislature where the Dems can offer no more than token resistance.

208 A Cranky One  Apr 5, 2015 10:07:01pm

…

209 De Kolta Chair  Apr 5, 2015 10:07:51pm

From the What People Are Saying Behind Your Back Dept.

210 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 5, 2015 10:16:42pm

re: #209 De Kolta Chair

From the What People Are Saying Behind Your Back Dept.

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Donnie was killed by the nihilists in the parking lot, they caused him to have a heart attack.

RBS

211 De Kolta Chair  Apr 5, 2015 10:24:42pm
“I am the walrus.”
212 Kragar  Apr 5, 2015 10:29:09pm

re: #211 De Kolta Chair

213 De Kolta Chair  Apr 5, 2015 10:31:29pm
214 Lidane  Apr 5, 2015 10:41:04pm

Oliver didn’t pull any punches. “How many of those documents have you actually read?” he asked Snowden with a palpable air of skepticism. “I do understand what I turned over,” the ex-CIA systems admin mumbled.

Not good enough. “There’s a difference between understanding what’s in the documents and reading what’s in the documents… because when you’re handing over thousands of NSA documents the last thing you’d want to do is read them,” Oliver said.

He continued, “So the New York Times took a slide, didn’t redact it properly, and in the end it was possible for people to see that something was being used in Mosul on al Qaeda.”

“That is a problem,” Snowden replied.

“Well, that’s a fuckup,” said Oliver.

“It is a fuckup, and those things do happen in reporting. In journalism, we have to accept that some mistakes will be made. This is a fundamental concept of liberty,” Snowden said.

“Right. But you have to own that then,” grilled Oliver. “You’re giving documents with information you know could be harmful, which could get out there.”

Snowden is stunned to near-silence, not expecting such a contentious line of questioning from the bespectacled late-night host.

215 Kragar  Apr 5, 2015 10:45:48pm

re: #213 De Kolta Chair

216 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 5, 2015 10:47:46pm

re: #214 Lidane

It’s a weird world when comedians do a better job of being journalists than journalists, and journalists make jokes of themselves.

217 De Kolta Chair  Apr 5, 2015 10:50:46pm

A dream song for the future: Lucinda Williams singing a cover of “I Am The Walrus.” Until that great day in the morning, here’s the real deal:

…

‘NIght lizards.

218 Varek Raith  Apr 5, 2015 11:01:54pm

Damn, Oliver pwnd Snowden.

219 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 5, 2015 11:02:38pm

Well, I’ve renewed my vehicle registration on-line (only 2 bucks extra, worth it to avoid the clerks office), dinner dishes are put away, email and stuff is caught up on, my work here is done.

Trying to pick a web hosting company. I DON’T want to have to start writing code or doing this one from scratch, it’s just going to be a personal site, a little blogging perhaps, post some photos, maybe some technical articles about stuff I know.

Been looking at Wix (I’ve worked on some of their stuff before, like the builder and most of the features, but not crazy about having to pay 5 bucks a month extra for each email acct.)

GoDaddy is an option, I’ve used them in the past, and well, they are better than some out there.

Gatorhosting looks attractive also.

Any recommendations. I’m not looking to code and design, looking for something that will do a drag-drop site builder type app with plenty of templates to play with.

RBS

220 De Kolta Chair  Apr 5, 2015 11:04:31pm

re: #215 Kragar

It’s Ringo’s world, we just live in it.
221 Kragar  Apr 5, 2015 11:04:59pm

re: #220 De Kolta Chair

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222 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 5, 2015 11:06:01pm

re: #219 RealityBasedSteve

Well, I’ve renewed my vehicle registration on-line (only 2 bucks extra, worth it to avoid the clerks office), dinner dishes are put away, email and stuff is caught up on, my work here is done.

Trying to pick a web hosting company. I DON’T want to have to start writing code or doing this one from scratch, it’s just going to be a personal site, a little blogging perhaps, post some photos, maybe some technical articles about stuff I know.

Been looking at Wix (I’ve worked on some of their stuff before, like the builder and most of the features, but not crazy about having to pay 5 bucks a month extra for each email acct.)

GoDaddy is an option, I’ve used them in the past, and well, they are better than some out there.

Gatorhosting looks attractive also.

Any recommendations. I’m not looking to code and design, looking for something that will do a drag-drop site builder type app with plenty of templates to play with.

RBS

I’ve been using Planet Earth Hosting pehosting.com since 2006. I have never had any serious problems with their service.

223 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 5, 2015 11:07:20pm

re: #217 De Kolta Chair

A dream song for the future: Lucinda Williams singing a cover of “I Am The Walrus.” Until that great day in the morning, here’s the real deal:

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‘NIght lizards.

Saw Lucinda Williams at the Coach House in San Juan Capistrano a few months ago. Excellent show though it left me wishing she ‘d doen some of her earlier material.

The Coach House is a great small venue and they have some excellent artists. Ticket prices range from $25 to $55, with a two drink minimum. Highly recommended if you’re within a drive of San Juan.

224 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 5, 2015 11:10:33pm

re: #223 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Saw Lucinda Williams at the Coach House in San Juan Capistrano a few months ago. Excellent show though it left me wishing she ‘d doen some of her earlier material.

The Coach House is a great small venue and they have some excellent artists. Ticket prices range from $25 to $55, with a two drink minimum. Highly recommended if you’re within a drive of San Juan.

She probably doesn’t want to do Hot Blood all the time, but Damn, I’d love to see that in person.

225 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 12:11:15am

LOL Here is a template from Rand Paul so you can make your own Rand Paul meme==>

226 Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2015 12:28:48am
227 Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2015 12:30:31am
228 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 12:30:59am

re: #226 Charles Johnson

Bastard.

But if Erdely had written about Allen West, he’d be praising her journalistic virtues.

229 Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2015 12:31:19am
230 Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2015 12:32:21am
231 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 12:33:42am

re: #230 Charles Johnson

Going full stalker now, targeting both the subject of a story and its writer.

232 Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2015 12:34:46am

This guy has to be the most hatefully insane person I’ve ever encountered. Not even Todd Kincannon was this sadistic.

233 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 12:36:53am

re: #232 Charles Johnson

This guy has to be the most hatefully insane person I’ve ever encountered. Not even Todd Kincannon was this sadistic.

He certainly has an MO.

234 Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2015 12:46:34am
235 Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2015 12:50:09am

He’s talking about destroying people who work at a sexual assault counseling center.

236 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 12:52:11am

re: #235 Charles Johnson

He’s talking about destroying people who work at a sexual assault counseling center.

Their attorneys will have a field day with his Twitter timeline. I’d recommend capturing it for posterity.

237 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 1:11:24am

He’s literally hunting human beings.

238 Kragar  Apr 6, 2015 1:14:04am
239 goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2015 2:09:54am
240 freetoken  Apr 6, 2015 2:12:20am

Video

241 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 2:57:04am

Lying traitor. How much were you paid, you smug little bastard? Thank you, thank you, thank you, John Oliver, for exposing what a narcissistic sociopath Edward Snowden really is.

Last Week Tonight With John Oliver - Edward Snowden Interview

…

“How many of those documents have you actually read?” Oliver asked Snowden. “I do understand what I turned over,” — Snowden. And it gets better.

Nice to know that “dick pics” are more important than national security, also.

242 Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2015 2:57:19am

If any Lizards ever visit the Czech Republic around Easter time and see young men carrying reed whips………don’t be surprised.

Easter brings out the strange in many cultures. The Philippines has realistic crucifixions, while parts of Spain have hooded processions that resemble a creepy meeting of a secret society.

The Czech Republic is no slouch in this area. In the eastern part of the country, Moravia, it has long been the tradition for men to whip or spank the backsides of women with woven pussy willow branches on Easter Monday. The whip, used only this one day of the year, is called a pomlázka. Easter Monday is called Crvené pondělí, meaning Red Monday.

“I don’t mind. It is for health. It is to ensure you have a healthy baby,” Nikola, a young woman who grew up near the city of Olomouc, told the Prague Post. It also ensures the woman will have another year of youth and beauty, some say.

Here in the Czech Republic, Easter is decidedly…….kinky.

praguepost.com

Love the title of the article - made me chuckle. And it’s not done just here in Moravia, it’s done throughout the country.

243 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 3:06:45am

“There’s a difference between understanding what’s in the documents and reading what’s in the documents… because when you’re handing over thousands of NSA documents the last thing you’d want to do is read them,” Oliver said.

He continued, “So the New York Times took a slide, didn’t redact it properly, and in the end it was possible for people to see that something was being used in Mosul on al Qaeda.”

“That is a problem,” Snowden replied.

“Well, that’s a fuckup,” said Oliver.

“It is a fuckup, and those things do happen in reporting. In journalism, we have to accept that some mistakes will be made. This is a fundamental concept of liberty,” Snowden said.

“Right. But you have to own that then,” grilled Oliver. “You’re giving documents with information you know could be harmful, which could get out there.”

Snowden is stunned to near-silence, not expecting such a contentious line of questioning from the bespectacled late-night host.

thedailybeast.com

244 Alyosha  Apr 6, 2015 3:09:43am

re: #243 Justanotherhuman

“There’s a difference between understanding what’s in the documents and reading what’s in the documents… because when you’re handing over thousands of NSA documents the last thing you’d want to do is read them,” Oliver said.

He continued, “So the New York Times took a slide, didn’t redact it properly, and in the end it was possible for people to see that something was being used in Mosul on al Qaeda.”

“That is a problem,” Snowden replied.

“Well, that’s a fuckup,” said Oliver.

“It is a fuckup, and those things do happen in reporting. In journalism, we have to accept that some mistakes will be made. This is a fundamental concept of liberty,” Snowden said.

“Right. But you have to own that then,” grilled Oliver. “You’re giving documents with information you know could be harmful, which could get out there.”

Snowden is stunned to near-silence, not expecting such a contentious line of questioning from the bespectacled late-night host.

thedailybeast.com

Simply delicious.

245 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 3:14:32am

Were the people at Rolling Stone so confident, so secure in their own “talent” and abilities to run a newspaper, that they, chastised by the fucking Columbia School of Journalism, have only recently recognized that they are capable of truly serious, harmful errors?

That is real hubris.

246 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 3:22:03am

re: #245 Justanotherhuman

Were the people at Rolling Stone so confident, so secure in their own “talent” and abilities to run a newspaper, that they, chastised by the fucking Columbia School of Journalism, have only recently recognized that they are capable of truly serious, harmful errors?

That is real hubris.

It used to be a fundamental law in newsrooms that every fact, name, source, quote or number was checked at least twice. If there was only one, unnamed source, then there had to be corroborating information that made that source credible. Running a story with only one source is a recipe for disaster.

The CJR report is written in a dispassionate, professional manner, but I can just imagine what those professors said among themselves.

J schools are apparently not doing a real good job teaching the basics of reporting nowadays.

247 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 3:23:46am

re: #244 Alyosha

Simply delicious.

No doubt Snowden truly underestimated Oliver, just as he underestimates the rest of us.

He also seemed a bit taken aback that many average Americans don’t know who the hell he is, even. “B-b-b-but, I’m famous!” had to be what he was thinking. What a self-centered, self-serving ass.

248 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 3:26:10am

re: #246 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

J schools are apparently not doing a real good job teaching the basics of reporting nowadays.

Well, it could be that students, once employed, are discarding what they actually learned and embracing the money, not the principles, of journalism.

249 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 3:58:07am

re: #248 Justanotherhuman

Well, it could be that students, once employed, are discarding what they actually learned and embracing the money, not the principles, of journalism.

Sadly, you’re probably right, but — except for a very few superstars (and for publishers) — journalism is not a career leading to great wealth. It was supposed to be a kind of public service, or calling, much as teaching, nursing or police work were supposed to be.

Besides, regardless of the students’ motivations, their editors are supposed to be doing their jobs, too, which is to make sure the reporters don’t fuck up and disgrace the paper or magazine. Offhand, I can think of several news outlets that have been disgraced big time when they ran with a story that turned out to be fabricated, either by sources or by the reporter him- or herself.

250 Varek Raith  Apr 6, 2015 4:00:19am

Good morning.
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251 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 4:01:46am

re: #242 Dr Lizardo

If any Lizards ever visit the Czech Republic around Easter time and see young men carrying reed whips………don’t be surprised.

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praguepost.com

Love the title of the article - made me chuckle. And it’s not done just here in Moravia, it’s done throughout the country.

N. Italy is nicer. Today is La Pasquetta (Little Easter), the first day of picnic season.

252 Alyosha  Apr 6, 2015 4:02:33am

re: #247 Justanotherhuman

No doubt Snowden truly underestimated Oliver, just as he underestimates the rest of us.

He also seemed a bit taken aback that many average Americans don’t know who the hell he is, even. “B-b-b-but, I’m famous!” had to be what he was thinking. What a self-centered, self-serving ass.

Probably a bit blind-sided by the fact he was being criticized by a comic who has a fairly well-established liberal streak.

253 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 4:24:15am

re: #249 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sadly, you’re probably right, but — except for a very few superstars (and for publishers) — journalism is not a career leading to great wealth. It was supposed to be a kind of public service, or calling, much as teaching, nursing or police work were supposed to be.

Besides, regardless of the students’ motivations, their editors are supposed to be doing their jobs, too, which is to make sure the reporters don’t fuck up and disgrace the paper or magazine. Offhand, I can think of several news outlets that have been disgraced big time when they ran with a story that turned out to be fabricated, either by sources or by the reporter him- or herself.

I agree. But they also see the “stars” of journalism who are making the big bucks and think that one big story will make their careers, not doing the real work it takes to become a credible, solid reporter over time, actually practicing their craft. And they also see people who are connected (Luke Russert comes to mind) who cut the queue. It has to be frustrating these days to be a principled, plodding reporter, paying their dues, who gets the job done for an average paycheck and no glory.

But we’re no longer producing Edward R Murrows, just wannabees.

“During the daily peak viewing periods, television in the main insulates us from the realities of the world in which we live. If this state of affairs continues, we may alter an advertising slogan to read: Look now, pay later.” — Edward R. Murrow

254 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 4:27:24am

re: #252 Alyosha

Probably a bit blind-sided by the fact he was being criticized by a comic who has a fairly well-established liberal streak.

Yes. A comic who is married to an Iraq war veteran, a former medic.

people.com

255 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 4:35:24am

Why shouldn’t they get norovirus like the rest of us?

Kansas Bans Poor People From Spending Welfare On Cruise Ships

huffingtonpost.com

(It’s just a detail in a larger Fuck-the-Poor law.) Via Memorandum

256 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 4:40:40am

Dogwalk for a bit.

257 Iwouldprefernotto  Apr 6, 2015 4:54:33am

re: #238 Kragar

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Reported CCJ. It’s basically the only reason that I use Twitter.

258 lawhawk  Apr 6, 2015 4:58:49am

re: #238 Kragar

Reported. Again.

259 lawhawk  Apr 6, 2015 5:00:30am

re: #255 Decatur Deb

These people have no clue how EBTs work, or how SNAP and welfare programs are disbursed. So why would they care if they get other aspects wrong?

260 Teukka  Apr 6, 2015 5:02:13am

re: #255 Decatur Deb

Why shouldn’t they get norovirus like the rest of us?

Kansas Bans Poor People From Spending Welfare On Cruise Ships

huffingtonpost.com

(It’s just a detail in a larger Fuck-the-Poor law.) Via Memorandum

I think I speak for everyone here when I say:

¿DAFUQ?

261 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 5:08:02am

re: #260 Teukka

I think I speak for everyone here when I say:

¿DAFUQ?

The HuffPo article made a joke about cruise ships. That detail is not in the law.

I think.

262 Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2015 5:12:53am

re: #261 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The HuffPo article made a joke about cruise ships. That detail is not in the law.

I think.

Actually, it is:

(14) No TANF cash assistance shall be used to purchase alcohol, cigarettes, tobacco products, lottery tickets, concert tickets, professional or collegiate sporting event tickets or tickets for other entertainment events intended for the general public or sexually oriented adult materials. No TANF cash assistance shall be used in any retail liquor store, casino, gaming establishment, jewelry store, tattoo parlor, massage parlor, body piercing parlor, spa, nail salon, lingerie shop, tobacco paraphernalia store, vapor cigarette store, psychic or fortune telling business, bail bond company, video arcade, movie theater, swimming pool, cruise ship, theme park, dog or horse racing facility, parimutuel facility, or sexually oriented business or any retail establishment which provides adult-oriented entertainment in which performers disrobe or perform in an unclothed state for entertainment, or in any business or retail establishment where minors under age 18 are not permitted

263 WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2015 5:13:10am

re: #219 RealityBasedSteve

Homestead. I did hubby’s biz site on it

264 Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2015 5:19:34am

While I love my cat, it’s rather difficult to get any reading or posting done when she parks herself right in front of my monitor. I don’t know whether it’s the warmth she likes or attention she wants, but either way, it’s frustrating…and yet adorable.

265 Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2015 5:21:16am

re: #264 Targetpractice

While I love my cat, it’s rather difficult to get any reading or posting done when she parks herself right in front of my monitor. I don’t know whether it’s the warmth she likes or attention she wants, but either way, it’s frustrating…and yet adorable.

Warmth or attention? Foolish human, she’s there to annoy you!

266 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 5:22:23am

re: #261 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The HuffPo article made a joke about cruise ships. That detail is not in the law.

I think.

Proposed Federal Rules from Feb 2014 does mention cruise ships but in the context of state actions:


page 7128, upper right hand column, in discussing state restrictions.

267 Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2015 5:22:23am

re: #264 Targetpractice

While I love my cat, it’s rather difficult to get any reading or posting done when she parks herself right in front of my monitor. I don’t know whether it’s the warmth she likes or attention she wants, but either way, it’s frustrating…and yet adorable.

268 Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2015 5:28:30am

It was worse Saturday night, because she’d just come back from having her teeth cleaned, and the drugs they gave her took a long while to work out of her system. So she had all the grace and majesty of a drunk, from swaying as she sat to stumbling as she tried to climb up on my desk.

269 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 5:35:47am

Will There Be Indiana-Style Boycotts If States Reject EPA Carbon Pollution Laws?

thinkprogress.org

(snip)

“I am NOT saying that the climate action movement is broadly analogous to the marriage equality movement. The harm that climate inaction will bring to billions in the future is just too different from the extensive past and present discrimination and harm gays suffer. But one key similarity is the moral nature of the cause.

“Once third-rail issues transform into moral imperatives, impossibilities sometimes surrender to new realities,” as Salon explained in a 2013 piece on the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). Indeed Salon explained in a late 2011 article that what “moved gay marriage into the mainstream in 2011″ was “morality.”

“The LGBT community did not win by asking by asking for “tolerance.” They weren’t trying to get folks to “accept gay marriage by holding their moral noses.” No: “the lesson that the gay revolution holds for any progressive movement” is that “they set out to change change people’s minds about what is moral.” More

270 Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2015 5:48:53am

I’m beginning to think we won’t see climate change taken seriously by a majority of Americans until we start losing a city to the sea. Even with the worst droughts on record, tornadoes tearing up whole towns, snow storms crushing roofs under record levels of snow, and monstrously huge South Pacific typhoons, people still want to believe that this is just a “normal” thing. The whole “cycles” bit has been pushed so hard that the public doesn’t even question it anymore.

271 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 5:51:40am

Hmmm. In NC, when a divorce complaint can’t be served, it’s published in a legal newspaper specifically used for that purpose, that is, elusive defendants in civil actions, such as domestic, estate matters, etc. Plaintiff is then granted divorce by default.

Where’s Lawhawk on service of process in New York state?

New York judge rules woman can use Facebook to serve divorce papers - @nydailynews
read more on nydailynews.com

272 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 5:51:41am

re: #262 Timothy Watson

OK. I am officially dumbfounded.

273 Alyosha  Apr 6, 2015 5:55:20am

re: #270 Targetpractice

From year to year, if people are not directly impacted by a severe climate event, they tend to acclimatise themselves to the changing norm. Even if you get a fucking firestorm blow through an area, people attribute it to freak weather conditions and the fact that accumulated leaf litter means we ‘we’re about due for one’.
It’s much easier to ignore the stats if you just adapt. Doubly ironic since it’s a species greatest advantage.

274 lawhawk  Apr 6, 2015 5:55:22am

re: #270 Targetpractice

The city lost to the sea will be treated as a just punishment along the Sodom/Gomorrah lines, and the right wingers will still ignore the damage done.

What they will also ignore is the desertification of the Southwest and California in particular, even though California is a major agricultural producer for the world. Heck, much of the Central US would be under pressure to identify and locate water sources as weather patterns shift towards a drier and warmer climate. That too will affect where/how people can live - and we may see CA style restrictions put in place all across the Southwest as water supplies are overtaxed (particularly the Colorado River).

275 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 5:55:38am

With two, you get egg roll.

Hope the kids (and adults) have a great time. : )

276 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 6:00:54am

re: #272 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

OK. I am officially dumbfounded.

I think Rs have learned a lot about how to screw the poor from block grants.

277 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 6:01:32am

Good morning Lizards from a partly cloudy Philadelphia. 43 F this morning, but expected to be sunny and over 70 F by this afternoon.

Cooking exercises went well over the weekend. The lamb stew came out well and has been providing additional meals since Friday. The first try at red lentil curry was tasty, but still needs a few tweaks. And sour cream apple pie went over well with the guests on Friday.

The Sunday pie (apple with brandy-soaked cranberries*) came out first-class. That variant will be repeated in the future.

* - Pie recipe I use includes using some lemon juice and lemon zest in the filling. Variant is to macerate a cup of dried cranberries with the lemon and a tablespoon of brandy or cognac and then mix that into the filling as well. (I diced up my cranberries a little beforehand as well. Learned that from putting dried cherries in something and seeing the results of *not* chopping up the dried fruit a little bit in advance.)

How are things with the Lizards in the windward approaches?

278 lawhawk  Apr 6, 2015 6:02:15am

re: #271 Justanotherhuman

The issue of service of process via Facebook is becoming more accepted though some courts still do not recognize it.

Where there are some reasons not to accept service of process via Facebook, because of the reliability of being able to identify the person for service (there are still bogus/fake accounts, even though Facebook generally requires a legitimate person set up an account), courts in NY have begun allowing it because it was the only way that some petitioners were able to identify and locate the respondent.

CPLR 308(5) allows service of process by alternative means when other methods have been unsuccessful/impractical. In other words, the law gives the courts flexibility to allow it as a method for service of process.

279 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 6:03:21am
280 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 6:04:08am

re: #276 Justanotherhuman

I think Rs have learned a lot about how to screw the poor from block grants.

Much easier to take a block grant and then skim stuff off for your political favorites to have. Or simply have a large chunk of the money taken up by administrative costs.

281 Alyosha  Apr 6, 2015 6:04:09am

re: #275 Justanotherhuman

With two, you get egg roll.

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Hope the kids (and adults) have a great time. : )

How many fence-jumpers today? ;)

282 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 6:11:09am

they do…

283 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 6:14:01am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

they do…

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That one is going out to my brother and niece in the next five minutes.

284 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 6:16:23am

This is truly heart breaking. It certainly is not the world into which so many of us came, at least not me.

Overpopulation, overconsumption - in pictures

How do you raise awareness about population explosion? One group thought that the simplest way would be to show people

theguardian.com

285 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 6:20:39am

But who wants this version of “population control”? Awful.

Gul Ahmad Saeed Accused of Killing 14 in Pakistan Over Marriage Wrangle

nbcnews.com

286 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 6:23:25am

Whut? Talk about appropriation…

Ex-Florida Gov. Jeb Bush marked ‘Hispanic’ on Florida voter registration form,

nytimes.com

287 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 6:25:43am

re: #286 Justanotherhuman

Whut? Talk about appropriation…

Ex-Florida Gov. Jeb Bush marked ‘Hispanic’ on Florida voter registration form,

nytimes.com

288 Alyosha  Apr 6, 2015 6:25:53am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

So hard to convince affluent and gregarious people of the severe threat of overpopulation. No one in the West since a bit after WWII has experienced rationing.

It is that one issue I cannot convey properly and which depresses me the most. Still, great photos. Good link :)

289 Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2015 6:28:45am

re: #286 Justanotherhuman

Whut? Talk about appropriation…

Ex-Florida Gov. Jeb Bush marked ‘Hispanic’ on Florida voter registration form,

nytimes.com

They actually collect demographic information on voter registration forms? (They don’t do that here in Virginia.)

290 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 6:30:15am

Happy Monday everyone.

Yes, Jeb Bush declared he was Hispanic on his voter registration card. What a way to start the week.

291 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 6:30:41am

re: #272 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

OK. I am officially dumbfounded.

Kansas is where the TPGOP will first reach PoeMax.

292 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 6:33:55am

I hope all this attention on the Rolling Stone isn’t drawing attention away from the University’s who do have *ahem* problems with their policies and procedures regarding campus rape.

293 lawhawk  Apr 6, 2015 6:35:17am

Hooked a live one on Twitter, who takes umbridge with fact that police dispersing sports riot in Kentucky were far more forgiving of unruly actions than FPD/STL county police were in handling peaceful protesters in Ferguson.

It’s indisputable that the police in Ferguson were using heavy-handed tactics even though the situation remained peaceful; the police incited the actions, and the DOJ report shows that the police there engaged in pattern of discrimination and intimidation against the community.

294 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 6:35:38am
295 Alyosha  Apr 6, 2015 6:36:25am

re: #286 Justanotherhuman

Whut? Talk about appropriation…

Ex-Florida Gov. Jeb Bush marked ‘Hispanic’ on Florida voter registration form,

nytimes.com

He could change his last name to Arbusto but from memory, his bro had a failed oil company of the same name.

296 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 6:37:47am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reminded me of the creatures from this movie.

297 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 6:38:09am

re: #284 Justanotherhuman

This is truly heart breaking. It certainly is not the world into which so many of us came, at least not me.

Overpopulation, overconsumption - in pictures

How do you raise awareness about population explosion? One group thought that the simplest way would be to show people

theguardian.com

god-forbid we provide Comprehensive Sex-Ed and Cost-Free Contraception including Abortion on Demand.

298 Great White Snark  Apr 6, 2015 6:38:31am

re: #293 lawhawk

It might be worth pointing out the police response to a celebratory happy just fans getting carried away crowd really should be different than a big angry crowd looking for a fight and vandalism.

299 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 6:40:08am

I don’t know if Snowden’s smart enough to figure this out, but Oliver was there to mock him.

300 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 6:41:21am

re: #181 BeachDem

He’s so fucking full of himself, his skin is going to burst.

Now he’s going to go after Kirsten Gillibrand.

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The “truth squad”—it is to laugh.

It would be funny if it wasn’t so sick. Chuckles hates women in positions of power, of both parties. His misogynist rage is both pathetic and scary.

302 Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2015 6:42:13am

re: #298 Great White Snark

It might be worth pointing out the police response to a celebratory happy just fans getting carried away crowd really should be different than a big angry crowd looking for a fight and vandalism.

Those fans were rioting because their team lost. A couple years ago, VCU fans rioted in Richmond, after VCU’s Final Four lost, and threw loose pavement bricks at cops. All the cops did was deploy smoke grenades to disperse the crowd.

303 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 6:44:34am

Fox guests debate women in special military operations:

…

Fox News —GAH

304 lawhawk  Apr 6, 2015 6:45:07am

re: #302 Timothy Watson

Sports riots in the US happen with alarming regularity, and the treatment of those who are involved in damaging property is frequently less severe than those who were doing nothing wrong (see the peaceful protesters in Ferguson).

The nitwit on Twitter doesn’t seem to get that Ferguson protests were mostly peaceful (and seems to fixate on that cops didn’t shoot and kill any of the protesters). They ignore the illegal detainment of protesters who did nothing wrong, detaining journalists who were doing nothing wrong, targeting protesters via sniper rifle in an effort to intimidate. Etc.

The policing in Ferguson was far more harsh than anything seen at sports riots.

305 Varek Raith  Apr 6, 2015 6:45:07am

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306 Mattand  Apr 6, 2015 6:45:10am

re: #290 darthstar

Happy Monday everyone.

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You know all this voter fraud Republicans are always pissing their pants over?

The guy fucking lied when he registered to vote. A former governor, whose dad and brother are former presidents.

W. T. F.

307 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 6:45:32am

Special operations troops doubt women can do the job

Does Israeli Special Forces include women?

308 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 6:46:22am

re: #306 Mattand

You know all this voter fraud Republicans are always pissing their pants over?

The guy fucking lied when he registered to vote got caught. A former governor, whose dad and brother are former presidents.

W. T. F.

FTFY

:)

309 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 6:47:20am
310 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 6:47:55am

Idiots want a crusade.
The Emerging GOP War Platform

311 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 6:48:06am

re: #306 Mattand

You know all this voter fraud Republicans are always pissing their pants over?

The guy fucking lied when he registered to vote. A former governor, whose dad and brother are former presidents.

W. T. F.

I’m curious which of the Bush ancestors in New England was fooling around in order to get Hispanic blood into the family. Or how often in order to get enough for Jeb to want to claim to be Hispanic.
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312 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 6:48:35am

re: #297 FemNaziBitch

god-forbid we provide Comprehensive Sex-Ed and Cost-Free Contraception including Abortion on Demand.

When I was seeking a tubal ligation in the early 70s when I was 32, I was told by one doctor (who knew I was divorced) that “you might want to remarry and have more kids”. After searching, I finally found a doctor who would do it, who respected my wish.

313 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 6:49:43am

My *spit* friend, the Mr. Amorous Cardinal is back again this spring.

I hope he gets laid soon, I really, really hate hearing him at 4:30 in the morning.

314 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 6:50:09am

re: #312 Justanotherhuman

When I was seeking a tubal ligation in the early 70s when I was 32, I was told by one doctor (who knew I was divorced) that “you might want to remarry and have more kids”. After searching, I finally found a doctor who would do it, who respected my wish.

What was it POTUS said?

TRUST WOMEN

315 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 6:51:51am

re: #310 FemNaziBitch

Idiots want a crusade.
The Emerging GOP War Platform


The Daily Beast is carrying an article that is the most brutal takedown of one of their gutless chickenhawks, John Bolton. Their contrast between him and another Bolton of his cohort is almost Shakespearean.

thedailybeast.com

316 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 6:52:05am

re: #293 lawhawk

The thing about the UK fans is that they would have done the same thing if the team had won.
Lexington, KY, may be the only city that consistently bans sofas in the street on game days because sofas are historically what gets set on fire.
In recent years, the bad behavior keeps escalating. Everyone knows it’s going to happen and I’ve come to the conclusion that local authorities just let it happen, making half-hearted efforts to arrest those caught in the act of damaging property.
It’s really pathetic that it’s allowed to continue, and even more shameful that it’s excused.

317 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 6:52:20am

Israeli Special Forces Units

Navy
Unit Yaltam - Salvage and Recovery unit.
Unit Yaban - Force Protection unit (allows female fighters).
Shayetet 7 - Elite dolphin class submarine unit.

318 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 6:52:52am

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

The thing about the UK fans is that they would have done the same thing if the team had won.
Lexington, KY, may be the only city that consistently bans sofas in the street on game days because sofas are historically what gets set on fire.
In recent years, the bad behavior keeps escalating. Everyone knows it’s going to happen and I’ve come to the conclusion that local authorities just let it happen, making half-hearted efforts to arrest those caught in the act of damaging property.
It’s really pathetic that it’s allowed to continue, and even more shameful that it’s excused.

My Dear Ole Dad went to UK.

319 Eventual Carrion  Apr 6, 2015 6:53:13am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

they do…

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Seafood pierogi’s

320 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 6:53:57am
321 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 6:54:40am

re: #320 The Week Of No Pie

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already re-tweeted!

322 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 6:55:13am
323 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 6:55:26am

re: #318 FemNaziBitch

My Dear Ole Dad went to UK.

I’m an alumnus of one of UK’s fellowship programs. Some UK basketball fans embarrass the crap outta me.

324 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 6:57:29am

re: #313 FemNaziBitch

My *spit* friend, the Mr. Amorous Cardinal is back again this spring.

I hope he gets laid soon, I really, really hate hearing him at 4:30 in the morning.

The Amorous Cardinal — sounds like one of the Canterbury Tales, or a murder mystery.

325 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 6:57:40am
326 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 6:57:44am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m an alumnus of one of UK’s fellowship programs. Some UK basketball fans embarrass the crap outta me.

Went there from UofL for grad school, was safety officer for their parachute club in Cynthiana. We didn’t burn sofas then.

327 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 6:58:26am

re: #326 Decatur Deb

Went there from UofL for grad school, was safety officer for their parachute club in Cynthiana. We didn’t burn sofas then.

I thought sofa burning was a West Virginia thing.

329 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 6:59:32am

re: #327 Feline Fearless Leader

I thought sofa burning was a West Virginia thing.

I’ve had a couple of sofas that should have been burned, just for being ugly.

330 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 7:00:14am

re: #327 Feline Fearless Leader

I thought sofa burning was a West Virginia thing.

Someone above said Lexington has to control it. Wasn’t a thing in the early 70s.

331 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 7:00:37am

re: #324 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The Amorous Cardinal — sounds like one of the Canterbury Tales, or a murder mystery.

Or the Decameron.

332 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 7:00:42am

re: #328 FemNaziBitch

Sen. Lindsey Graham Demands That Barack Obama Stop Being President

And he will hold his breath until Obama does.

333 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 7:00:49am

re: #328 FemNaziBitch

Sen. Lindsey Graham Demands That Barack Obama Stop Being President

Bless his heart. Lindsey just can’t get over the fact that his BFF McCain lost in 2008.

334 Eventual Carrion  Apr 6, 2015 7:00:57am

re: #327 Feline Fearless Leader

I thought sofa burning was a West Virginia thing.

And it is sofa king awesome.

335 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 7:02:07am

re: #328 FemNaziBitch

Sen. Lindsey Graham Demands That Barack Obama Stop Being President

Barack Obama cannot stop being President. It is his fate, just as it is Lindsey’s fate to be an idiot.

336 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 7:02:24am

re: #331 Nyet

Or the Decameron.

Exactly! I forgot the title, though it was on the tip of my tongue.

There have been many amorous cardinals in the history of the Church. Some probably sang at 4:30 in the morning, too.

337 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 7:04:05am

are: #324 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The Amorous Cardinal — sounds like one of the Canterbury Tales, or a murder mystery.

Or a scandal straight out of The Vatican.

338 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 7:05:08am

re: #337 Justanotherhuman

a

Or a scandal straight out of The Vatican.

We could crowdsource the entire plot of a novel at this rate.

339 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 7:06:54am

Well, more thunderstorms are moving in now. I’m hoping it’s a warm front coming in, because I had to turn on the heat again in my flat.

340 Eventual Carrion  Apr 6, 2015 7:08:17am

re: #338 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

We could crowdsource the entire plot of a novel at this rate.

It was a dark and stormy night at the Vatican. It was the holiest of times, it was the most evil of times.

341 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 7:09:54am

re: #340 Eventual Carrion

It was a dark and stormy night at the Vatican. It was the holiest of times, it was the most evil of times.

Suddenly, a shot rang out.

342 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 7:10:32am

re: #341 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Suddenly, a shot rang out.

Cardinal Cheney was out hunting again.

343 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 7:11:17am
344 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 7:12:24am

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Chuck’s now searching old tweets and posting them.

345 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 7:14:15am

re: #342 Nyet

Cardinal Cheney was out hunting again.

Meanwhile, his housekeeper found a dead girl in the cardinal’s bed and a live boy in the bathroom.

346 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 7:14:46am

re: #345 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Meanwhile, his housekeeper found a dead girl in the cardinal’s bed and a live boy in the bathroom.

That’s Chuck tweeting in the bathroom.

347 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 7:15:09am

Agreed.

348 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 7:16:00am

re: #342 Nyet

Cardinal Cheney was out hunting again.

His mistress, Judith Miller, lay dead, a victim of her own warped desires.

349 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 7:16:25am

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s Chuck tweeting in the bathroom.

“Are there any confessors out there willing to send me the dirt and 99 Lira?

350 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 7:17:28am

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s Chuck tweeting in the bathroom.

Meanwhile, his housekeeper found a dead girl in the cardinal’s bed and a live boy feverishly tweeting in the bathroom, begging for donations.

351 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 7:18:08am

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s Chuck tweeting in the bathroom.

“How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood, Chuck?”, asked the housekeeper.

“Is the woodchuck black? And where is my journalism award? And why am I the only real journalist asking these pertinent questions?”, retorted Chuck.

Housekeeper silently closed the door.

352 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 7:18:31am
353 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 7:19:35am

re: #351 Nyet

“How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood, Chuck?”, asked the housekeeper.

“Is the woodchuck black? And where is my journalism award? And why am I the only real journalist asking these pertinent questions?” - retorted Chuck.

Housekeeper closed the door.

And called the police.

354 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 7:20:16am

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Chuck’s now searching old tweets and posting them.

Journalism Research! Except he probably isn’t using Twitter’s search feature…rather he’ll spend three months paginating back through the twitter history of his targets.

355 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 7:20:36am

re: #351 Nyet

“How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood, Chuck?”, asked the housekeeper.

“Is the woodchuck black? And where is my journalism award? And why am I the only real journalist asking these pertinent questions?” - retorted Chuck.

Housekeeper closed the door.

Suddenly, a Schweizer tripped on the stairs, cursing Michaelangelo, his halbard and his pantaloons.

356 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 7:20:52am

19 Reasons Why Hamsters Should Be Your Role Model

357 ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2015 7:21:34am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

It would be funny if it wasn’t so sick. Chuckles hates women in positions of power, of both parties. His misogynist rage is both pathetic and scary.

Morning All!

Reading Dark’s comment triggered a thought about the little red-headed dude I hate to mention.

Over the time he has been followed he seems to make anyone and everyone a target if he thinks he can make a dollar off it.

I do not think he cares about gender, sexual orientation, political affiliation, race, religion…anything. All people are to him is a way to advance himself monetarily.

I seriously doubt he has real friends. How could anyone trust him?

Chuck is going to find himself a very lonely human one day, if not already today. Maybe that is why he is the way he is. He has no real human traits such as warmth, empathy, concern and the like.

I have a feeling his background and upbringing have some bad elements. How else is a human like him created?

And then you have the comments about Snowden.

Are Chuck and Snowden similar? Are they an indication of others like them becoming some kind of a personality/character trait brought on by the world such as it is today? Seems to be some kind of strange disconnect from the real human race starting.

358 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 7:22:28am

re: #353 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And called the police.

“Did you bring me my journalism award? It’s about time!” - said Chuck, when he saw the gendarmes breaking in.

Meanwhile cardinal Cheney was getting close to his man-sized safe…

359 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 7:22:30am

re: #352 darthstar

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That was a DERP about the Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act, but Santorum was not quoting the WBC slogan with approval. He was using it to posit that without an RFRA, state law could force a gay printer to print the WBC signs. This is horse manure, of course.

360 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 7:22:37am

re: #355 Decatur Deb

Suddenly, a Schweizer tripped on the stairs, cursing Michaelangelo, his halbard and his pantloons.

Did I start something?

361 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 7:23:49am

It’s Autism Awareness Month.

362 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 7:25:44am

re: #361 FemNaziBitch

It’s Autism Awareness Month.

Let the anti-vaxxer liefests commence!

363 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 7:26:26am

So this hate-the-poors asshole shows up in my time line==>

364 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 7:27:01am
365 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 7:27:12am
366 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 7:27:29am

re: #358 Nyet

“Did you bring me my journalism award? It’s about time!” - said Chuck, when he saw the gendarmes breaking in.

Meanwhile cardinal Cheney was getting close to his man-sized safe…

…in which he had stored the fake yellow cake.

367 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 7:27:40am

re: #363 The Week Of No Pie

So this hate-the-poors asshole shows up in my time line==>

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CC needs to stop whining and just pull up her bootstraps and get another jerbbb!!!

368 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 7:27:48am
369 ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2015 7:28:20am

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

The thing about the UK fans is that they would have done the same thing if the team had won.
Lexington, KY, may be the only city that consistently bans sofas in the street on game days because sofas are historically what gets set on fire.
In recent years, the bad behavior keeps escalating. Everyone knows it’s going to happen and I’ve come to the conclusion that local authorities just let it happen, making half-hearted efforts to arrest those caught in the act of damaging property.
It’s really pathetic that it’s allowed to continue, and even more shameful that it’s excused.

Ohio State and Columbus have similar rules in place around the OSU campus area. No old couches out on front porches or out back in the yard, etc. They know where they will eventually end up. And it doesn’t take a sporting win or loss…a few years back a nice spring weekend could lead to bonfires, parties…then alcohol-fueled fights that turn into a mini riot. Columbus code enforcers are out and about.

370 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 7:28:28am

re: #366 Justanotherhuman

…in which he had stored the fake yellow cake.

Cardinal Cheney knew from the start that the cake was a lie.

371 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 7:28:50am

re: #361 FemNaziBitch

It’s Autism Awareness Month.

Daughter1’s third book on raising her now-teenager is out on the 15th. (Can’t link here, she’s too easy to track, and the nutcases are thick in her area.)

372 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 7:29:08am
373 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 7:29:16am

re: #370 Nyet

Cardinal Cheney knew from the start that the cake was a lie.

And someone left it out in the rain…

375 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 7:30:57am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

And someone left it out in the rain…

and a terrible cry was heard throughout the land.

At which time, people began substituting pies for the condemned cake.

376 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 7:31:21am

bbl

377 Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2015 7:31:33am

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

The thing about the UK fans is that they would have done the same thing if the team had won.
Lexington, KY, may be the only city that consistently bans sofas in the street on game days because sofas are historically what gets set on fire.
In recent years, the bad behavior keeps escalating. Everyone knows it’s going to happen and I’ve come to the conclusion that local authorities just let it happen, making half-hearted efforts to arrest those caught in the act of damaging property.
It’s really pathetic that it’s allowed to continue, and even more shameful that it’s excused.

The West Virginia Mountaineers also like to burn couches after both victories and losses.

378 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 7:31:40am

re: #374 FemNaziBitch

New abortion bill extends waiting period, prohibits procedures at UNC hospitals

Could that run afoul of constitutional protections if the UNC hospital system has completely taken over a region of the state and there is really no reasonable alternative location?

(Then again, that is pretty much the goal of the legislation, isn’t it?)

379 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 7:31:42am

I think I need an editor. : )

380 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 7:31:46am

re: #375 Justanotherhuman

and a terrible cry was heard throughout the land.

At which time, people began substituting pies for the condemned cake.

And the Queen said: “Let them eat the Cake!”

381 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 7:32:15am

bbl ferreal

382 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 7:32:15am
383 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 7:32:22am

re: #377 Timothy Watson

The West Virginia Mountaineers also like to burn couches after both victories and losses.

And sometimes they forget to take them out of the house first.
//// ;P

384 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 7:32:48am

re: #377 Timothy Watson

The West Virginia Mountaineers also like to burn couches after both victories and losses.

yep.

How WVU’s couch-burning tradition spawned riots

385 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 7:33:28am

re: #378 Feline Fearless Leader

Could that run afoul of constitutional protections if the UNC hospital system has completely taken over a region of the state and there is really no reasonable alternative location?

(Then again, that is pretty much the goal of the legislation, isn’t it?)

And more lies from the Rs.

“There’s no effort here to try to restrict a woman’s right to have an abortion,” she said. “What we’re trying to do is make her care competent.”

Read more at wral.com

386 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 7:33:41am

re: #370 Nyet

Cardinal Cheney knew from the start that the cake was a lie.

No, it was real enough. He had it covered up in chocolate frosting.

387 lawhawk  Apr 6, 2015 7:34:29am

re: #382 darthstar

Lack of snowfall means that the waterfalls that dot the High Sierras and Yosemite will go dry far earlier than usual, and the wildfire risks will begin that much sooner (and in some spots are already 365 day seasons).

388 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 7:35:16am

re: #382 darthstar

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teleskiguy paged that a couple of days ago.

389 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 6, 2015 7:35:27am

“There’s no effort here to try to restrict a woman’s right to have an abortion,”

coming from a party that regularly refers to abortion as “murder” and “genocide”.

390 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 7:36:36am

re: #365 FemNaziBitch

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So, that’s where the word “gaudy” came from?

391 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 7:38:14am

re: #389 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

“There’s no effort here to try to restrict a woman’s right to have an abortion,”

coming from a party that regularly refers to abortion as “murder” and “genocide”.

Those words are intended as camouflage. Think of them as Phil Robertson’s headband.

392 WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2015 7:39:10am

re: #385 Justanotherhuman

And more lies from the Rs.

“There’s no effort here to try to restrict a woman’s right to have an abortion,” she said. “What we’re trying to do is make her care competent.”

Read more at wral.com

By driving her to back-alley abortionists, or bleach douches, or the return of the coathanger as preferred method of pregnancy termination. That’ll ensure competent care.

393 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 7:39:38am

Of course he did. It was just a political blip, after all.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott reverses course and now opposes Medicaid expansion in the state - @AP
end of alert

394 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 7:41:16am

If you think the F-35 has problems, check out the issues Russia is having with its T-50 5th Gen. fighter:

For more than a year, the Indian Business Standard newspaper has reported on New Delhi’s misgivings. The Indian version of the T-50 is known as the FGFA.

“The FGFA’s current AL-41F1 engines were underpowered, the Russians were reluctant to share critical design information, and the fighter would eventually cost too much,” the paper reported, based on briefings from Indian Air Force officials in December 2013.

A month later, more bad news leaked to the press. India wanted a bigger share of the project. But the engine was still bad, it still cost too much, the plane’s radar was “inadequate” and its “stealth features badly engineered.”

Then in June, a T-50 landed at the Zhukovsky testing grounds near Moscow … and its engine caught fire. Russian officials said the damage was minor —𠂫ut photographs depicted much of the rear fuselage blackened by the blaze.

“What added to the controversy … was Russia’s refusal to share any details of this failure, to the extent that a technical evaluation team of the Indian Air Force that reportedly was present at the site was refused access to inspect the damaged platform,” Monika Chansoria of the Center for Land Warfare Studies in New Delhi told Defense News.

395 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 7:41:35am
396 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 7:42:06am

re: #387 lawhawk

Lack of snowfall means that the waterfalls that dot the High Sierras and Yosemite will go dry far earlier than usual, and the wildfire risks will begin that much sooner (and in some spots are already 365 day seasons).

Fire season started in February this year.

397 Varek Raith  Apr 6, 2015 7:42:38am

re: #394 Dark_Falcon

If you think the F-35 has problems, check out the issues Russia is having with its T-50 5th Gen. fighter:

Good to know we aren’t the only ones building hangar queens.
:P

398 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 7:47:02am
399 lawhawk  Apr 6, 2015 7:47:38am

re: #394 Dark_Falcon

Russia can’t afford to do the project; they’ve cut the number of planes from 50 to 12, which is to say that they’re more like a technology demonstrator than a capable air wing. The Russian recession and lack of money means that they can’t do what they want to do; the Indian govt is pissed bc they’ve sunk billions on their share of the project. And they’re letting everyone know that the Russians are incapable of getting the project straightened out.

That means to watch for the Indian government to look at alternatives or to kill the project outright to cut their losses. But they need something to show for it.

The scale of the Russian/Indian mess with the T-50 is a fraction of the costs and problems with the F22/F35s. We’re talking $30-50 billion project versus a trillion dollar project. And it’s not like the US has the money either.

400 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 7:48:23am
401 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 7:50:40am

re: #397 Varek Raith

Good to know we aren’t the only ones building hangar queens.
:P

At least the F-35’s fire extinguishers work. There has been an F-35 engine fire, but that Lightning II suffered far less damage than the burned T-50 did because its fire extinguishers contained and limited the damage.

In the uS case, The problem with the F-35’s engine has been ID’d and Pratt & Whitney has been required to correct it, at their own cost. This beats the Russian situation, where the cause is not being revealed. Moreover, there are far more F-35s currently than T-50s, so the fact that the T-50 has already had an engine fire with only the 5th prototype speaks very badly of it.

402 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 7:52:02am

And because it needs to be said:

You want to know what persecution really is? It’s 147 Christians being shot in Kenya. That’s persecution.

Your so-called “offense” at being required to serve LGBT people is an insult to their sacrifice.

And on Good Friday, I will say as a minister of the Gospel that it’s an insult to Jesus’ sacrifice too.

Grow up. Get a life. Be a real Christian. And a real American.

403 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 7:52:24am

re: #401 Dark_Falcon

In Russia, fire extinguishes YOU!

404 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 7:53:14am

They call themselves a “Black Metal” band, whatever that means. The driver fell asleep.

Police: Rock band Wormreich involved in crash that killed 3

ajc.com

405 Varek Raith  Apr 6, 2015 7:57:15am

en.wikipedia.org

Black metal is an extreme subgenre and subculture of heavy metal music. Common traits include fast tempos, a shrieking vocal style, highly or heavily distorted guitars played with tremolo picking, raw (lo-fi) recording, unconventional song structures and an emphasis on atmosphere. Artists often appear in corpse paint and adopt pseudonyms.

406 retired cynic  Apr 6, 2015 7:59:23am

re: #365 FemNaziBitch

Hobbit Stack

407 Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2015 8:00:04am

re: #322 FemNaziBitch

Cut them off. See how long that lasts.

408 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 8:00:46am

re: #399 lawhawk

Russia can’t afford to do the project; they’ve cut the number of planes from 50 to 12, which is to say that they’re more like a technology demonstrator than a capable air wing. The Russian recession and lack of money means that they can’t do what they want to do; the Indian govt is pissed bc they’ve sunk billions on their share of the project. And they’re letting everyone know that the Russians are incapable of getting the project straightened out.

That means to watch for the Indian government to look at alternatives or to kill the project outright to cut their losses. But they need something to show for it.

The scale of the Russian/Indian mess with the T-50 is a fraction of the costs and problems with the F22/F35s. We’re talking $30-50 billion project versus a trillion dollar project. And it’s not like the US has the money either.

Though I bet both projects point at the other as a reason that they should continue receiving funding because otherwise a “hanger queen gap” will develop.
///

409 Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2015 8:03:20am

re: #405 Varek Raith

en.wikipedia.org

Black metal is an extreme subgenre and subculture of heavy metal music. Common traits include every song sounds alike, fast tempos, a shrieking vocal style, highly or heavily distorted guitars played with tremolo picking, raw (lo-fi) recording, unconventional song structures and an emphasis on atmosphere. Artists often appear in corpse paint and adopt pseudonyms.

Fixed it,

:)

410 Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2015 8:04:28am

re: #401 Dark_Falcon

At least the F-35’s fire extinguishers work. There has been an F-35 engine fire, but that Lightning II suffered far less damage than the burned T-50 did because its fire extinguishers contained and limited the damage.

In the uS case, The problem with the F-35’s engine has been ID’d and Pratt & Whitney has been required to correct it, at their own cost. This beats the Russian situation, where the cause is not being revealed. Moreover, there are far more F-35s currently than T-50s, so the fact that the T-50 has already had an engine fire with only the 5th prototype speaks very badly of it.

Which sort of ignores the reality that the F-35 is a program that is nearly 20 years old and yet still remains in the pre-production stage because of problems like these. Engines burning up, fuel systems running too hot, “data fusion” still not near to being achieved, internal refits to accommodate worthwhile internal payloads, software lagging years behind, and weight issues that keep cropping up are just the tip of the iceberg. If the T-50’s production run being cut from 50 to 12 is anything, it’s yet more evidence that the F-35 program is a solution for a problem that doesn’t exist.

411 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 8:06:15am

Obama has written one executive order after another replacing existing US Law. His new “ObamaLaws” aren’t really legal but, with the Dems and Repubs going along with them—or at best not trying to stop them—they become de facto laws by default. Dictator-in-Chief Obama’s latest tactic is not to even write the laws don but, the simply speak them into existence as might a Pharaoh…or an Imam. This is what he and his lackey team have done with the treasonous anti-Israel/anti-USA Iran deal. In making this lunatic and suicidal-for-the-US “deal” with Iran, what Obama has effectively done is say to Iran “I now submit my country to your commands and to Islam.” North American Islamic Republic anyone? This is and has been Obama’s intent all along. He plans—as Van Jones once told a group of high school students—to be President of the World. He is on his way.

412 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 8:08:12am

re: #405 Varek Raith

en.wikipedia.org

I would hate it.

413 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 8:09:45am

re: #404 Justanotherhuman

They call themselves a “Black Metal” band, whatever that means.

Black metal = the bands that the TV show Metalocalypse parodies. Loud, ear-splitting music, incomprehensible vocals with stupid lyrics, corpse paint, and everything having to be “more metal” than the next band.

414 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 8:10:15am

re: #411 Lidane

Standard whiny pseudo-libertarian gibberish.

415 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 8:11:07am

re: #413 Lidane

Black metal = the bands that the TV show Metalocalypse parodies. Loud, ear-splitting music, incomprehensible vocals with stupid lyrics, corpse paint, and everything having to be “more metal” than the next band.

What is “corpse paint”?

416 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 8:11:10am

re: #411 Lidane

N.A.I.R. — a world power dedicated to removing leg hair

417 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 8:11:22am

Jeb Bush’s 2009 voter registration card.

418 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 8:11:32am

re: #412 Justanotherhuman

I would hate it.

Most people with musical taste do. Even a lot of metal fans can’t stand it because so much of it is either contrived or just terrible.

I checked out the band in question. They’re terrible even by black metal standards.

419 Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2015 8:12:28am

re: #417 Justanotherhuman

Jeb Bush’s 2009 voter registration card.

Another story the MSM will ignore about Jeb. But, if Hillary did something like this, it would be a national tragedy.

420 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 8:13:09am

re: #415 The Week Of No Pie

What is “corpse paint”?

Corpse paint

Think KISS makeup, but without the shameless consumerism.

421 Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2015 8:14:08am

re: #418 Lidane

Most people with musical taste do. Even a lot of metal fans can’t stand it because so much of it is either contrived or just terrible.

I checked out the band in question. They’re terrible even by black metal standards.

Black/death Metal was a favorite choice of the sick fucks who tortured prisoners at Gitmo. They would pipe in blaring death/black metal for hours and days at a time.

422 Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2015 8:14:13am

re: #417 Justanotherhuman

Jeb Bush’s 2009 voter registration card.

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A man hailing from the same political party that gave a college professor shit because they believe to this day that she lied about Native American ancestry in order to get a job.

423 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 8:15:28am

re: #420 Lidane

Corpse paint

Think KISS makeup, but without the shameless consumerism.

“However, some of the Norwegian bands—such as Emperor, Satyricon and Burzum—stopped wearing corpse paint, often citing its loss of meaning or trendiness due to use by so many bands.”

So—music is now about staying ahead of the game with weird makeup?

424 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 8:15:45am

re: #417 Justanotherhuman

Jeb Bush’s 2009 voter registration card.

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Jeb’s real father was the pool boy, so it’s accurate.

425 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 8:16:48am

re: #420 Lidane

Corpse paint

Think KISS makeup, but without the shameless consumerism.

Oh that’s so lame.

I thought it was something like makeup used by funeral homes to prep the deceased for open casket viewing. Heavy on the lead & arsenic.

426 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 8:17:08am
427 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 8:17:12am

re: #417 Justanotherhuman

Jeb Bush’s 2009 voter registration card.

Barbara probably told him. Does George Sr know?!?
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428 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 8:17:50am

re: #421 Dr. Matt

Wasn’t that done at the black sites before the terrorists in question were taken to Gitmo?

429 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 8:18:36am

re: #428 Dark_Falcon

Wasn’t that done at the black sites before the terrorists in question were taken to Gitmo?

Probably. Amorous Cardinal tapes were not available at the time.
/

430 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 8:20:00am
431 Eventual Carrion  Apr 6, 2015 8:20:14am

re: #417 Justanotherhuman

Jeb Bush’s 2009 voter registration card.

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The Mexican pool boy better be in hiding.

432 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 8:20:50am
433 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 8:20:56am

re: #431 Eventual Carrion

The Mexican pool boy better be in hiding.

Probably self-deported himself in 2012.
/

434 Eventual Carrion  Apr 6, 2015 8:21:15am

re: #424 darthstar

Jeb’s real father was the pool boy, so it’s accurate.

Beat me to it.

435 Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2015 8:22:22am

re: #428 Dark_Falcon

Wasn’t that done at the black sites before the terrorists in question were taken to Gitmo?

Yeah. Might have been. I just remember the song lists that were released years ago. In addition to the death metal, they included the Barney theme song.

436 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 8:22:51am

re: #423 Justanotherhuman

So—music is now about staying ahead of the game with weird makeup?

If you’re a wannabe musician in Scandinavia, sure.

The thing about this particular subgenre of metal is that it’s very, very Scandinavian. Most of the bands in the genre and most of the scene is confined to places like Finland and Norway.

It’s a niche of a niche.

437 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 8:23:04am

Well, I’ll tell ya this, ya little rabbit…Ah ain’t pooping no colored eggs.

438 Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2015 8:28:00am

re: #432 The Week Of No Pie

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Kristallnacht!!1!

439 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 8:30:12am

re: #435 Dr. Matt

Yeah. Might have been. I just remember the song lists that were released years ago. In addition to the death metal, they included the Barney theme song.

One non-sicko female interrogator read Harry Potter books to detainees. It tended to drive them nutty, both from not being able to silence a woman and from having to listen to things about ‘witchcraft’ (presumably while not being able to accuse and kill a woman for that ‘crime’).

440 Romantic Heretic  Apr 6, 2015 8:33:44am

re: #377 Timothy Watson

The West Virginia Mountaineers also like to burn couches after both victories and losses.

It’s a religious observance. Sacrificing a sofa to the great football god.

441 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 8:34:21am
442 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 8:35:12am

re: #440 Romantic Heretic

It’s a religious observance. Sacrificing a sofa to the great football god.

Bad news on some couches, though. If it has a lot of urethane foam you get a nice cyanide-rich smoke.

443 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 8:35:29am

re: #441 darthstar

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I like this headline better…ouch!

444 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 8:35:34am

HURR HURR THIS IS ALL TEH LIBTARDS!!!!!!

445 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 8:38:02am

I give this 24 hours?

Artists secretly install Edward Snowden statue in Brooklyn park

mashable.com

Some people are so easily conned…

446 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 8:38:44am

re: #440 Romantic Heretic

It’s a religious observance. Sacrificing a sofa to the great football god.

The rugby team at my alma mater would periodically defenestrate a sofa out a third floor window, just for the lulz*.

* Of course, no one lulzed back then, as the term was unknown at the time. They probably just laughed really loud and said, “Hold my beer and watch this!”

447 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 8:39:52am

re: #444 The Week Of No Pie

HURR HURR THIS IS ALL TEH LIBTARDS!!!!!!

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Jess Dooley fucked up…and has since deleted her account.

448 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 8:41:32am

re: #443 darthstar

I like this headline better…ouch!

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Heh. He is also an elected member of the Manchester school board.

Will the Republican parents be up in arms now?

449 retired cynic  Apr 6, 2015 8:41:56am

re: #411 Lidane

Amazing. The projection is blinding.

450 Lancelot Link  Apr 6, 2015 8:42:14am

re: #418 Lidane

Most people with musical taste do. Even a lot of metal fans can’t stand it because so much of it is either contrived or just terrible.

I guess i shouldn’t link to my black metal band, then.

451 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 8:44:20am
452 WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2015 8:44:36am

re: #443 darthstar

I like this headline better…ouch!

Levasseur, who did not specify Wihby’s ailment, asked his Facebook friends to offer prayers for his recovery.

Something having to do with “…for more than four hours…”?

453 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 8:44:59am

Even in a bunny suit President Obama looks more presidential than the current crop of GOP candidates.

454 WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2015 8:46:43am

re: #447 darthstar

Jess Dooley fucked up…and has since deleted her account.

Are we supposed to know who she is (I Googled her, but using her as some kind of icon seems a pretty good stretch).

455 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 8:49:46am

Okay…maybe it wasn’t him in the suit.

456 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 8:50:31am

Giant bunny rabbits are just creepy.

457 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 8:50:37am

re: #454 WhatEVs

Are we supposed to know who she is (I Googled her, but using her as some kind of icon seems a pretty good stretch).

No…just some random twitter person who is the poster child for Xian victims as she posted about stealing the gofundme money from Memories pizza.

458 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 8:52:02am

This guy is getting totally WTF==>

459 Varek Raith  Apr 6, 2015 8:54:04am

re: #456 The Week Of No Pie

Giant bunny rabbits are just creepy.

We should all show up at your door dressed as giant bunnies.

460 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 6, 2015 8:54:23am

re: #455 darthstar

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Okay…maybe it wasn’t him in the suit.

Harvey joined the Secret Service? Why not, they party as much as Elwood!

461 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 8:55:39am

Fire from an explosion is seen at a plant that manufactures paraxylene in Zhangzhou, south-east China; state news agency Xinhua said there was 1 injury

And lots of air pollution.

462 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 8:58:15am

re: #461 Justanotherhuman

Fire from an explosion is seen at a plant that manufactures paraxylene in Zhangzhou, south-east China; state news agency Xinhua said there was 1 injury

And lots of air pollution.

No one will notice.
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Seriously, though, depending on the wind direction, the plume would pass over Xiamen toward Taiwan. So, people would probably notice.

463 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 8:59:31am
464 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 9:00:26am

Oh, hell.

Boulder Jewish Community Center evacuated after receiving envelope with white powder

dailycamera.com

465 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2015 9:01:13am

‘Tis midnight here, and it’s time for the China branch to shut down for the night.

L8r

466 Mattand  Apr 6, 2015 9:04:26am

re: #445 Justanotherhuman

I give this 24 hours?

Artists secretly install Edward Snowden statue in Brooklyn park

mashable.com

Some people are so easily conned…

Speaking of Eddie:

When I saw the post earlier about John Oliver forcing Snowden to answer a hard question, I wondered how badly Ars Technica’s fee-fees would be hurt by someone questioning their hero.

Turns out, quite a bit:
Edward Snowden faces John Oliver’s semi-tough questions

Glenn Greenwald should be asking semi-tough questions. Christ knows he’s been milking Snowden for all he’s worth the last year and a half.

At least that’s how I read the article. I thought about poking the dudebros in the comments, but not really sure it’s worth it.

467 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 9:05:02am

My grandson (w/the Munchkin) is going to “meet the parents” of his new love interest tonight, including dinner out.

468 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 9:07:42am

re: #466 Mattand

Speaking of Eddie:

When I saw the post earlier about John Oliver forcing Snowden to answer a hard question, I wondered how badly Ars Technica’s fee-fees would be hurt by someone questioning their hero?

Turns out, quite a bit:
Edward Snowden faces John Oliver’s semi-tough questions

At least that’s how I read the article. I thought about poking the dudebros in the comments, but not really sure it’s worth it.

It’s not normally worth it to stir up people who are being irrational about an issue just for the sake of doing so.

469 Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2015 9:11:08am

re: #411 Lidane

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At some point, it became impossible to distinguish conservative opinion pieces from the rantings of a crazy homeless guy on the “L” at 3am in the morning. I blame the internet.

470 Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2015 9:13:21am

So, the entire UVA story is such an interweb shitshow at this point, but has it been addressed anywhere as why “Jackie” pursued this facade? Is she on record anywhere other than RS?

471 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 9:14:03am

Watch Live: Journalism School Delivers Report on Rolling Stone’s UVA Rape Story

nbcnews.com

472 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 9:14:09am

Sometimes fear of law enforcement can cause a bad result even when the police do nothing wrong:

New York City teen dies after falling from building to escape police

A 17-year-old boy died on Saturday from injuries he sustained falling six stories from a New York City building rooftop as he tried to escape police investigating a report of teenagers smoking marijuana, law enforcement said.

Hakeem Kuta, of the Bronx, died Saturday morning after being in critical condition for nearly two days, police said.

Kuta fell from a roof ledge as he and a 14-year-old friend attempted to escape police, who repeatedly told the teens to stop and “relax,” a spokesman for the New York City Police Department said.

In a statement, police said four uniformed officers responded to a complaint on Thursday evening about a group of teenagers smoking marijuana in the lobby of a Bronx apartment building, police said.

Why 4 cops for a situation that might not even generate an arrest? Answer: It was an attempt to keep things in hand. Teenage boys are prone to stupid acts of defiance, and they might have engaged in such acts if only 1 or 2 cops showed up. 4 officers ensured no defiance, but instead caused the boys to panic with fatal results for one of them.

No villains here, just a young man who died because he panicked. Very sad.

473 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 6, 2015 9:15:36am

re: #466 Mattand

At least that’s how I read the article. I thought about poking the dudebros in the comments, but not really sure it’s worth it.

All of the facts on Snowden are in by now. The people who are still lionizing him are doing so because they’re convinced that he deserves it. I doubt that they’ll be persuaded otherwise.

474 gwangung  Apr 6, 2015 9:17:34am

re: #432 The Week Of No Pie

The rising number of gay bashing victims looking side eye at this joker.

capitolhillseattle.com

475 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 9:18:31am

re: #404 Justanotherhuman

They call themselves a “Black Metal” band, whatever that means. The driver fell asleep.

Police: Rock band Wormreich involved in crash that killed 3

ajc.com

One of my nieces is involved in the Black Metal culture. She does artwork for the bands and her husband is a drummer in one of the bands.

476 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 9:22:53am

re: #473 Higgs Boson’s Mate

This is the way GG is framing the Oliver interview of Snowden—Americans are all a bunch of dumb asses who care nothing for politics or “what’s happening” to them by their govt. Never mind the shocking revelation Oliver managed to glean from Snowden, that he really has no idea of what detail is in the documents, just that we’re supposed to believe him that he “vetted” enough to make the claims that he, GG and Poitras (among others) have made, and which created new careers for them.

So says the guy who claims Brazil for his home.

477 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 9:25:52am

re: #476 Justanotherhuman

This is the way GG is framing the Oliver interview of Snowden—Americans are all a bunch of dumb asses who care nothing for politics or “what’s happening” to them by their govt. Never mind the shocking revelation Oliver managed to glean from Snowden, that he really has no idea of what detail is in the documents, just that we’re supposed to believe him that he “vetted” enough to make the claims that he, GG and Poitras (among others) have made, and which created new careers for them.

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So says the guy who claims Brazil for his home.

The funny part is that John Oliver is an Englishman, not an American. but of course such failures to note facts are par for the course with GG.

478 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 9:28:24am

re: #477 Dark_Falcon

GG is a humorless hack.

479 b.d.  Apr 6, 2015 9:29:16am

re: #476 Justanotherhuman

This is the way GG is framing the Oliver interview of Snowden—Americans are all a bunch of dumb asses who care nothing for politics or “what’s happening” to them by their govt. Never mind the shocking revelation Oliver managed to glean from Snowden, that he really has no idea of what detail is in the documents, just that we’re supposed to believe him that he “vetted” enough to make the claims that he, GG and Poitras (among others) have made, and which created new careers for them.

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So says the guy who claims Brazil for his home.

SNOWDEN IS TOO GOOD FOR YOU UNGRATEFUL, DUMBASS PROLES!

480 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 9:32:46am
481 EmmaAnne  Apr 6, 2015 9:37:53am

re: #470 Dr. Matt

So, the entire UVA story is such an interweb shitshow at this point, but has it been addressed anywhere as why “Jackie” pursued this facade? Is she on record anywhere other than RS?

The best guess I have seen is that something awful did happen, but the victim, being both drunk and traumatized, didn’t know what it was. The way memory works in situations like that is it tries to fill in holes and soon you can’t tell what is real and what isn’t.

482 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 9:39:30am
483 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 9:39:56am

re: #481 EmmaAnne

The best guess I have seen is that something awful did happen, but the victim, being both drunk and traumatized, didn’t know what it was. The way memory works in situations like that is it tries to fill in holes and soon you can’t tell what is real and what isn’t.

And the Columbia School of Journalism spox just said they did not fault Jackie, the subject, but the process at RS which resulted in the article.

484 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 9:41:08am
485 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 9:41:30am

I guess I am so blocked by Dana now.

486 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 9:42:09am
487 Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2015 9:42:29am

re: #485 The Week Of No Pie

I guess I am so blocked by Dana now.

Slowpoke. She blocked me over a year ago.

488 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 9:42:31am
489 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 6, 2015 9:44:00am

re: #484 The Week Of No Pie

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Real victims of real persecution are far less interesting to teh Wingnut Brigade than easily politicized fake victims.

490 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 9:45:52am

Now I’m getting pounded by Dana’s minions.

491 HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2015 9:46:43am

They’re really eager to exploit this tragedy in Kenya for all they can huh.

492 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 9:46:47am

re: #484 The Week Of No Pie

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Maybe DL should have insisted that the O’Connors sell off their assets to survive their own bigotry, such as the 6 BR, 4Bth house they own, just as they do food stamp recipients?

Just another example of the RW supporting the haves over the have-nots, IMHO.

And of course the DLs also support the evangelical efforts of missionaries requiring the poors in countries they operate to accept their version of religion and convert, if and when they actually offer any aid.

493 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 9:46:55am

Yeah because when a celebrity with a bazillion followers promotes a gofundme it gets a lot more attention (and donations) than if an ordinary citizen creates a gofundme.

494 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 9:47:17am

re: #488 The Week Of No Pie

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Zing!

495 WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2015 9:48:13am

re: #476 Justanotherhuman

This is the way GG is framing the Oliver interview of Snowden—Americans are all a bunch of dumb asses who care nothing for politics or “what’s happening” to them by their govt. Never mind the shocking revelation Oliver managed to glean from Snowden, that he really has no idea of what detail is in the documents, just that we’re supposed to believe him that he “vetted” enough to make the claims that he, GG and Poitras (among others) have made, and which created new careers for them.

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So says the guy who claims Brazil for his home.

A 2010 findlaw.com poll found that almost 2/3 of Americans - 65% - were incapable of naming even a single member of the U.S. Supreme Court. A 2010 Pew poll discovered that 41% of Americans are unable to name the current Vice President of the U.S; in other words, Oliver could just as easily (if not more easily) compile a video of Times Square visitors looking stumped when asked if they knew who Joe Biden, or Antonin Scalia, is.

Of course Greenwald thinks this is about political disengagement…and not the fact that many people simply don’t give a fuck about much of anything. How many people couldn’t place Iraq on a map? How many couldn’t point to Ohio?

I wonder how many Americans know more about Kim Kardashian and Tom Brady than Joe Biden. I am betting a far greater number.

496 Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2015 9:49:07am

re: #493 The Week Of No Pie

Yeah because when a celebrity with a bazillion followers promotes a gofundme it gets a lot more attention (and donations) than if an ordinary citizen creates a gofundme.

Fox Business “News” helped too. rawstory.com

497 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 9:49:34am

I’m not even responding to these danabots. Just muting one after the other. What a bunch of dumbasses.

498 HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2015 9:49:52am

Just like the right wing to see bigoted business owners who rightfully get called out as worthy of charity but not actual people who need it.

499 gwangung  Apr 6, 2015 9:50:43am

re: #495 WhatEVs

Of course Greenwald thinks this is about political disengagement…and not the fact that many people simply don’t give a fuck about much of anything. How many people couldn’t place Iraq on a map? How many couldn’t point to Ohio?

I wonder how many Americans know more about Kim Kardashian and Tom Brady than Joe Biden. I am betting a far greater number.

For a lot of folks, civil rights abuses are a lot closer to home and more in your face (um, Ferguson, anyone?).

500 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 9:50:58am

re: #490 The Week Of No Pie

Now I’m getting pounded by Dana’s minions.

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Wonder if Scott Lofquist has actually done that himself. How would he know?

And who the hell is Scott Lofquist anyway except someone who piles on?

501 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 9:52:58am

SCIENCE!

502 HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2015 9:54:25am

re: #501 Lidane

SCIENCE!

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Blood moon expert roflmao. It’s almost like WND is a parody at times. I bet they have a demon expert on board too that has identified Obama as Satan incarnate.

503 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 9:54:39am

I don’t want to get into a shitfight with Dana, because she can fling more shit than I can, and also she has a bunch of guns.

504 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 6, 2015 9:54:54am

re: #501 Lidane

SCIENCE!

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WTFITS!?

505 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 9:55:09am

re: #495 WhatEVs

Of course Greenwald thinks this is about political disengagement…and not the fact that many people simply don’t give a fuck about much of anything. How many people couldn’t place Iraq on a map? How many couldn’t point to Ohio?

I wonder how many Americans know more about Kim Kardashian and Tom Brady than Joe Biden. I am betting a far greater number.

Maybe white people?

506 Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2015 9:59:42am
507 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 10:01:48am

Now Dana is promoting all the gofundme’s for various homophobic bigots across the country. Nothing for the families of the murdered Kenyans. Let the LIBTARDS do that.

508 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 10:02:05am

Because surrogate mothers and adoption don’t exist:

509 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 6, 2015 10:03:31am

re: #495 WhatEVs

Of course Greenwald thinks this is about political disengagement…and not the fact that many people simply don’t give a fuck about much of anything. How many people couldn’t place Iraq on a map? How many couldn’t point to Ohio?

I wonder how many Americans know more about Kim Kardashian and Tom Brady than Joe Biden. I am betting a far greater number.

The Republican majorities in Congress are proof positive that people aren’t paying attention. This latest Snowden/Greenwald flap is about GGs butthurt that America, in a unanimous voice, hasn’t shouted, “You were right all along, Glenn! We’re not worthy!”

510 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 10:03:38am

re: #505 Justanotherhuman

Maybe white people?

Only a bit over 12% of the population is Black. This gives % of voting age population that voted in US elections.

presidency.ucsb.edu

511 Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2015 10:05:04am

re: #504 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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WTFITS!?

That is a tardigrade; and one day, when our fine planet is blown to subatomic particles, the tardigrade will likely survive. Those little buggers will outllive us all.

512 Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2015 10:06:07am

I wonder if this is going to push CCJ fully into the arms of his neo-Nazi followers. After all, he claims Menendez as his greatest “scalp”, but now teh JOOOS are opposing him.

513 Jenner7  Apr 6, 2015 10:06:32am

Pretty sad that these bigots had more money raised for them than Tamir Rice’s family.

514 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 6, 2015 10:07:02am

re: #511 Dr Lizardo

That is a tardigrade; and one day, when our fine planet is blown to subatomic particles, the tardigrade will likely survive. Those little buggers will outllive us all.

Thank you for that! I thought that someone had done something fabulous with cloth. I just read up on tardigrades and I for one welcome our tardigrade masters.

515 Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2015 10:07:56am

re: #504 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Didn’t I kill one of those in Mass Effect?

516 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 6, 2015 10:10:12am

re: #508 Lidane

I would think that Pat Robertson, being himself an animated turd, would be more understanding.

517 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 10:10:50am

re: #511 Dr Lizardo

That is a tardigrade; and one day, when our fine planet is blown to subatomic particles, the tardigrade will likely survive. Those little buggers will outllive us all.

Do they live in a tardis?

518 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 6, 2015 10:11:32am

re: #517 Justanotherhuman

Do they live in a tardis?

Only on hillsides. Thus the “grade.”

519 Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2015 10:12:32am

re: #512 Ace-o-aces

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Everything is going as I have foreseen:

Have any of the RWNJs floated the idea that Obama took out Menendez so Obama could open up relations with Cuba?

littlegreenfootballs.com

520 WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2015 10:12:35am

re: #490 The Week Of No Pie

521 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 10:12:47am

Sure, that makes sense:

WHY is that asshole Brownback still governor?

522 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 10:12:52am

RS fallout continues.

523 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 10:14:12am

re: #521 Lidane

Sure, that makes sense:

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WHY is that asshole Brownback still governor?

That will ensure that the rent never gets paid on time.

524 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 6, 2015 10:15:57am

re: #521 Lidane

Kansas will limit welfare recipients to $25 a day

which will cut down on the amount grocery store owners in kansas make by millions a year

525 Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2015 10:16:04am

Wingnut welfare raised $800K for bigots, but the LGBT community got the Indiana law changed,

526 #FergusonFireside  Apr 6, 2015 10:16:24am

re: #522 Justanotherhuman

RS fallout continues.

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Discovery will be interesting. I don’t think they will want to open up the frat’s party history.

527 Eventual Carrion  Apr 6, 2015 10:17:13am

re: #501 Lidane

SCIENCE!

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And the volcano needs another virgin.

528 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 6, 2015 10:17:44am

re: #525 Dr. Matt

Wingnut welfare raised $800K for bigots, but the LGBT community got the Indiana law changed,

Anything that drains wingnuts’ pockets while filling those of grifters is okay with me.

529 Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2015 10:18:36am

re: #521 Lidane

Kansans. Hey, they put him back in office again. This is what they get and what they wanted.
Some people won’t agree on what he’s doing. I don’t but that won’t make a difference. I was frankly shocked that he was put back in office.
Kansas is as Kansas does or something like that. The people of the state get what they ask for.

530 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 10:19:39am

re: #518 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Only on hillsides. Thus the “grade.”

OMG, my apt is on sloping grade, except the front.

It must be teeming with tardigrades. : )

531 Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2015 10:22:11am

re: #506 Ace-o-aces

And now I’m being replied to by Boston Bombing truthers. Because people are stupid and horrible.

532 Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2015 10:22:50am
533 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 10:23:42am

He’s awake and still stupid:

534 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 10:23:58am

re: #531 Ace-o-aces

And now I’m being replied to by Boston Bombing truthers. Because people are stupid and horrible.

I shouldn’t be surprised that there are Boston bombing troofers. There are assholes that still swear up and down that Sandy Hook was staged.

WTF humanity?

536 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 6, 2015 10:28:20am

re: #534 Lidane

I shouldn’t be surprised that there are Boston bombing troofers. There are assholes that still swear up and down that Sandy Hook was staged.

WTF humanity?

Silly: The Bureau of Elaborate Plots is the only government agency that’s 100% effective.

537 makeitstop  Apr 6, 2015 10:29:46am

re: #532 Ace-o-aces

Uh, huh? and #Tsarnaev has just forgotten to mention this during his trial?

Maybe it was the dead one.
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538 Justanotherhuman  Apr 6, 2015 10:31:04am

re: #532 Ace-o-aces

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That didn’t come out in any of the 2 reviews I just read.

startribune.com

newsday.com

539 allegro  Apr 6, 2015 10:32:02am

The FBI would want to blow up marathon observers and runners because…?

Some people really are too stupid to remain unsupervised at all times.

540 Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2015 10:33:03am

re: #537 makeitstop

Maybe it was the dead one.
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The tweet does say “T. Tsarnaev”, so presumably it’s referring to Tamerlan, who was killed.

541 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 10:36:27am

re: #534 Lidane

I shouldn’t be surprised that there are Boston bombing troofers. There are assholes that still swear up and down that Sandy Hook was staged.

WTF humanity?

And that is why you are only barely worthy to serve as staff. We are much too tolerant.
542 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 10:36:55am

re: #522 Justanotherhuman

Good. They may not make the RS mofos go bankrupt, but hopefully a financial lesson will be taught.

543 WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2015 10:37:48am

re: #533 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s awake and still stupid:

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He blocked me. Again.

544 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 10:39:04am

Harvard Law needs to demand that their diploma be returned:

545 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 10:40:30am

re: #544 Lidane

Harvard Law needs to demand that their diploma be returned:

More panda-ing to the base. I am sure that Texas will soon have a bamboo shortage as well.
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546 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 10:45:04am

re: #470 Dr. Matt

So, the entire UVA story is such an interweb shitshow at this point, but has it been addressed anywhere as why “Jackie” pursued this facade? Is she on record anywhere other than RS?

Not to my knowledge. It’s hard to get into anyone’s head. Initially I gave Jackie the benefit of doubt, like I did with Brian Williams. Memory is extremely malleable (which is why no verdict should rest on a single unverified testimony, no exceptions), and traumatized memory doubly so. But after it turned out that she was a serial liar, the hypothesis that she made it all up from the start (the start being her calls to the friends) became at least as probable as that some unspecified incident did happen (whether of sexual nature or not) and got distorted in her memory. We will probably never learn, what it was.

547 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 10:48:04am

So, it seems to me this University Story is being hyped my the university to deflect attention to their own history with Campus Rape?

Has anyone reported their history as to this issue?

548 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 6, 2015 10:48:38am

re: #504 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

WATER BEAR!!

RBS

549 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 10:49:26am
550 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 10:50:31am

Fuggedabout the Olds and their die-hard conservatism. The worlds oldest person is an Obama fangirl.

mashable.com

551 Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2015 10:50:31am

re: #539 allegro

The FBI would want to blow up marathon observers and runners because…?

Some people really are too stupid to remain unsupervised at all times.

It’s part of that family of conspiracy theories that hold that America’s fight with Radical Islamist terror groups such as Al Qaeda and ISIS is really a “show war” intended to allow some sort of secret cabal to gain power (who the cabal supposedly is and what they are supposed to want depend one who is DERPing out the variant of the conspiracy theory).

552 A Cranky One  Apr 6, 2015 10:51:44am

Given how much Chuckles tweets, he must spend most of the day in the bathroom. Further confirmation that he’s literally full of shit. /

553 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2015 10:51:48am

re: #511 Dr Lizardo

That is a tardigrade; and one day, when our fine planet is blown to subatomic particles, the tardigrade will likely survive. Those little buggers will outllive us all.

It still looks like a caterpillar in an isolation suit.

554 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 10:51:58am
555 Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2015 10:52:09am

re: #549 FemNaziBitch

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What is that? A cave?

556 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2015 10:52:52am

re: #549 FemNaziBitch

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I don’t practice Santorini.

557 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 10:53:24am

re: #550 Decatur Deb

“She has a granddaughter and a grandson who are in their 70s and who live in town, and they are here all the time visiting with her along with many other family members.”

558 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2015 10:53:36am

re: #554 FemNaziBitch

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Which came first - the salmonella-laced chicken? Or the salmonella-laced egg?

559 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 10:54:07am
560 Timothy Watson  Apr 6, 2015 10:54:10am

re: #554 FemNaziBitch

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Our lives have been a lie. From brownie batters to chocolate chip cookie dough we’ve been subjected to a wagging finger followed by a “don’t eat that you’ll get sick!” Well, it turns out that good ol’ Mom might have been keeping us away from this sweet stuff for no reason at all since it’s actually really hard to get salmonella from eggs.

We all know that the best part of making cookies is sneaking a taste of that sweet raw cookie dough and no one knows that better than Slate assistant editor L.V. Anderson. At the age of 27 she’s roughly consumed 360 raw eggs in her 15 years of baking and has never gotten sick. Anderson looked into the research behind salmonella and found that salmonella in eggs is rare to begin with.

Back in the 1980’s a salmonella outbreak in the US got hundreds of Americans sick and killed a few dozen. Because this was an egg-associated outbreak measures were put in place to ensure hens avoided infection. Just because a hen has salmonella doesn’t mean she’ll lay infected eggs though. Since new protocols were put in place it’s estimated that 0.012 percent of eggs would be contaminated with salmonella and even THAT doesn’t mean that you’ll get sick.

foodbeast.com

561 b_sharp  Apr 6, 2015 10:54:16am

re: #555 Timothy Watson

What is that? A cave?

Salt? Ice? Chalk?

562 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 10:54:28am

re: #555 Timothy Watson

What is that? A cave?

no clue.

563 b_sharp  Apr 6, 2015 10:54:35am

re: #556 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t practice Santorini.

I did, until my wife caught me.

564 Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2015 10:54:45am

re: #557 Nyet

“She has a granddaughter and a grandson who are in their 70s and who live in town, and they are here all the time visiting with her along with many other family members.”

Fred Thompson took a bath on her reverse mortgage.

565 wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2015 10:56:14am
566 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 10:56:49am
567 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 10:58:07am
568 prairiefire  Apr 6, 2015 11:00:02am

re: #550 Decatur Deb

Fuggedabout the Olds and their die-hard conservatism. The worlds oldest person is an Obama fangirl.

mashable.com

She’s adorable. I hope he can make it next year.

569 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2015 11:00:41am

re: #561 b_sharp

Salt? Ice? Chalk?

From what I can tell from the hotel’s website, it’s whitewashed rock.

katikies.com

570 A Cranky One  Apr 6, 2015 11:03:35am

re: #556 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t practice Santorini.

So you’re not a member of the church of Santorum?

571 Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2015 11:03:51am
572 b_sharp  Apr 6, 2015 11:05:39am

re: #569 Backwoods_Sleuth

From what I can tell from the hotel’s website, it’s whitewashed rock.

katikies.com

Tom Sawyer was around?

573 b_sharp  Apr 6, 2015 11:06:15am

re: #570 A Cranky One

So you’re not a member of the church of Santorum?

Otherwise known as the Church of Eternal Cleanup.

574 Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2015 11:06:39am
575 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 6, 2015 11:07:05am

re: #569 Backwoods_Sleuth

From what I can tell from the hotel’s website, it’s whitewashed rock.

katikies.com

Thera (Santorini) is composed entirely of volcanic tuff. The giant caldera in the middle is from the gigantic explosion in ~1650 B.C. that devastated nearby Crete and made the Minoan civilization vulnerable to conquest by the Mycenaean Greeks. Thera was quite possibly the Minoan metropolis at any rate, Crete just the breadbasket where the rural palaces were located.

576 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 11:07:40am

re: #571 Dave In Austin

Maybe he has progressed to the Idiocracy-like toilet-TV-chair…

577 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 11:08:29am

re: #570 A Cranky One

So you’re not a member of the church of Santorum?

The only that allows terminating a pregnancy for his wife, but no other women?

The hairsplitting debate over whether Karen Santorum had an abortion only serves to expose the ridiculousness of Rick Santorum’s extremism. In his view, it’s absolutely not okay for a woman to have doctors remove her life-threatening pregnancy for her, but it is okay for a woman to deliver a fetus well before viability so that the child can die slowly, in open air, as the Good Lord intended? Or is it just not okay for everyone who doesn’t happen to be Rick Santorum’s wife?

578 wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2015 11:09:17am

re: #575 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Thera (Santorini) is composed entirely of volcanic tuff. The giant caldera in the middle is from the gigantic explosion in ~1650 B.C. that devastated nearby Crete and made the Minoan civilization vulnerable to conquest by the Mycenaean Greeks. Thera was quite possibly the Minoan metropolis at any rate, Crete just the breadbasket where the rural palaces were located.

I don’t practice Santorini either, but I did have my 22nd birthday on Crete.

579 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 11:09:42am

re: #578 wrenchwench

I don’t practice Santorini either, but I did have my 22 birthday on Crete.

Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express?

580 darthstar  Apr 6, 2015 11:09:49am

re: #571 Dave In Austin

…

581 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 11:09:53am

re: #560 Timothy Watson

foodbeast.com

I find those statistics not that reassuring since I would worry less about the chicken itself than contamination occurring while the eggs are collected together to be packaged and shipped out.

582 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 11:09:57am

re: #566 FemNaziBitch

I find this ridiculous, but not because it’s Eddie (though that too). In my opinion, one should only make these things for people who are already dead.

583 wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2015 11:10:35am

re: #579 FemNaziBitch

Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express?

No, when I woke up, I was surrounded by sheep.

584 Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2015 11:11:14am

re: #575 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Thera (Santorini) is composed entirely of volcanic tuff. The giant caldera in the middle is from the gigantic explosion in ~1650 B.C. that devastated nearby Crete and made the Minoan civilization vulnerable to conquest by the Mycenaean Greeks. Thera was quite possibly the Minoan metropolis at any rate, Crete just the breadbasket where the rural palaces were located.

I first read about the Thera eruption years and years and years ago…..the book I’d read it in was published some time in the late 1950s, and even then, it was being speculated that the 1650 B.C. eruption was what led to the Atlantis legend.

585 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 6, 2015 11:11:26am

re: #575 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Thera (Santorini) is composed entirely of volcanic tuff. The giant caldera in the middle is from the gigantic explosion in ~1650 B.C. that devastated nearby Crete and made the Minoan civilization vulnerable to conquest by the Mycenaean Greeks. Thera was quite possibly the Minoan metropolis at any rate, Crete just the breadbasket where the rural palaces were located.

My brother is going there to visit in a month or two. I’m jealous. :(

586 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 11:12:05am

re: #583 wrenchwench

No, when I woke up, I was surrounded by sheep.

TMI!

587 Iwouldprefernotto  Apr 6, 2015 11:12:06am

re: #583 wrenchwench

No, when I woke up, I was surrounded by sheep.

Were you baaaaaaaaad?

588 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2015 11:12:42am

BBL

major nasty headache today.

589 prairiefire  Apr 6, 2015 11:13:42am

re: #583 wrenchwench

No, when I woke up, I was surrounded by sheep.

Too much ouzo? I spent a few weeks on Corfu. All the fresh food was amazing. Best yogurt in the world.

590 Iwouldprefernotto  Apr 6, 2015 11:13:54am

re: #583 wrenchwench

No, when I woke up, I was surrounded by sheep.

Do you utter the phrase: “I Love ewe?”

591 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 6, 2015 11:14:09am

re: #584 Dr Lizardo

I first read about the Thera eruption years and years and years ago…..the book I’d read it in was published some time in the late 1950s, and even then, it was being speculated that the 1650 B.C. eruption was what led to the Atlantis legend.

That was always one of my favorite slightly unorthodox theories. Now that we know the eruption was about 1650 instead of 1450, it doesn’t look quite as good, but I’m still fond of it.

592 wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2015 11:14:17am

re: #587 Iwouldprefernotto

Were you baaaaaaaaad?

I guess so— I had not asked permission to sleep there. I didn’t hassle the sheep. It was their home.

593 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 11:15:02am

I wonder if Dana will read my Tweet about the Kenya massacre victims but probably not because all the hate came from her and her danabots.

594 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 6, 2015 11:15:50am

re: #591 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Of course, I’m a Yorkist, too, so whatever….

595 A Cranky One  Apr 6, 2015 11:16:09am

re: #583 wrenchwench

No, when I woke up, I was surrounded by sheep.

Evil demon sheep?

596 No Country For Old Haters  Apr 6, 2015 11:16:34am

re: #593 The Week Of No Pie

I wonder if Dana will read my Tweet about the Kenya massacre victims but probably not because all the hate came from her and her danabots.

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597 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 11:16:50am

Dana’s newest project==>

598 wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2015 11:16:56am

re: #589 prairiefire

Too much ouzo? I spent a few weeks on Corfu. All the fresh food was amazing. Best yogurt in the world.

I bought a bottle of Metaxa Brandy. I don’t like licorice, so Ouzo (and Raki in Turkey) was out.

599 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 11:17:13am

re: #593 The Week Of No Pie

Can you please attack a couple of liberal orgs to make Wacky Dana donate to them? /

600 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 11:17:18am

re: #596 No Country For Old Haters

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OOOH you are so gonna be read on Dana’s show!

601 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 6, 2015 11:17:21am

re: #593 The Week Of No Pie

I wonder if Dana will read my Tweet about the Kenya massacre victims but probably not because all the hate came from her and her danabots.

[Embedded content]

Oh, please, please, please, milk the rubes of every dollar before the 2016 campaign really gets going, Dana.

602 wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2015 11:17:40am

re: #595 A Cranky One

Evil demon sheep?

[Embedded content]

So hard to tell first thing in the morning….

603 jaunte  Apr 6, 2015 11:17:44am

re: #596 No Country For Old Haters

Remind her how much of that is going directly to the tax man.

604 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 11:18:37am

re: #595 A Cranky One

Evil demon sheep?

Embedded Image

I hope the sexy ones.

…

605 A Cranky One  Apr 6, 2015 11:19:22am

re: #602 wrenchwench

So hard to tell first thing in the morning…

Waking up under those circumstances must have had you feeling a little sheepish. ;)

606 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 11:19:23am

This may not mean much outside of Texas, but here this is a big deal:

607 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 11:20:21am

re: #605 A Cranky One

Waking up under those circumstances must have had you feeling a little sheepish. ;)

Oh my deer, a pun thread!

608 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 6, 2015 11:20:49am

re: #598 wrenchwench

I bought a bottle of Metaxa Brandy. I don’t like licorice, so Ouzo (and Raki in Turkey) was out.

IMO, it beats the pitch in retsina.

609 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 6, 2015 11:21:19am

My daughter is freaking out right now because my son & his family are in Israel and they’re coming over for the End of Passover Week. My daughter-in-law is a vegan and my daughter doesn’t know what to cook for her.

I said “just make a big pile of potatoes and beets and salad”

610 wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2015 11:22:19am

re: #605 A Cranky One

Waking up under those circumstances must have had you feeling a little sheepish. ;)

I was avoiding the other humans from the college trip I was on, and walking between ancient Greek historical sights, so it was pretty successful to pitch my sleeping bag in a sheep pasture.

611 A Cranky One  Apr 6, 2015 11:22:34am

re: #607 Nyet

Oh my deer, a pun thread!

You ain’t seen mutton yet.

612 wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2015 11:22:51am

re: #608 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

IMO, it beats the pitch in retsina.

I LOVE Retsina!

613 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 11:24:43am

re: #611 A Cranky One

You ain’t seen mutton yet.

re: #612 wrenchwench

I LOVE Retsina!

It’swine that I prefer.

614 wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2015 11:26:21am

re: #613 Nyet

It’swine that I prefer.

615 ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2015 11:32:49am

re: #544 Lidane

Harvard Law needs to demand that their diploma be returned:

[ThinkProgress ✔ @thinkprogress
Follow
Ted Cruz threatens to take away the Supreme Court’s power to decide marriage equality cases —> thkpr.gs
1:37 PM - 6 Apr 2015]

Does Cruz like anything about this country?

Now he is going to attack a very conservative court and go after big businesses too.

Hey, good plan there Ted. At this rate maybe you get one more term in office as a senator and kiss your presidential aspirations goodbye. Not like he has a chance.

Go back to Canada! No, wait. Go to hell!

616 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2015 11:39:26am

re: #615 ObserverArt

Does Cruz like anything about this country?

Now he is going to attack a very conservative court and go after big businesses too.

Hey, good plan there Ted. At this rate maybe you get one more term in office as a senator and kiss your presidential aspirations goodbye. Not like he has a chance.

Go back to Canada! No, wait. Go to hell!

The large percentage of easily-fleeced rubes?

617 Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2015 11:44:04am

re: #606 Lidane

This may not mean much outside of Texas, but here this is a big deal:

HEB is pulling all Blue Bell Ice Cream from store shelves as a precaution after recall of some Blue Bell products t.co
— Austin Statesman (@statesman) April 5, 2015

Insulting Blue Bell is sacrilegious in Texas

618 GunstarGreen  Apr 6, 2015 11:44:33am

There’s no need to “worry” that this incident might “spread the idea that some women invent false rape allegations” because, simply put, some do.

This isn’t an “all or nothing” thing. It happens, it is known fact that it does happen, and it has incredibly serious consequences for the victims — the real victims — when it does.

Being concerned about those victims, and what false allegations do to them and their lives, is perfectly legitimate. It also does not necessitate any sort of strawman belief that all rape stories are false. But after Duke Lacross, UVA, and a number of other major incidents, a person would have to be mind-bogglingly dishonest to pretend like this isn’t a thing that happens.

619 Lidane  Apr 6, 2015 11:46:47am
620 b_sharp  Apr 6, 2015 12:06:16pm

re: #578 wrenchwench

I don’t practice Santorini either, but I did have my 22nd birthday on Crete.

I was on double barrel on my 22nd.

(Not really, it was actually my 19th)

621 b_sharp  Apr 6, 2015 12:08:02pm

re: #583 wrenchwench

No, when I woke up, I was surrounded by sheep.

Wow, and you survived.

It could have been horrible. You could have been torn limb from limb by their sharp pointy teeth.

622 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 12:25:10pm

re: #618 GunstarGreen

There’s no need to “worry” that this incident might “spread the idea that some women invent false rape allegations” because, simply put, some do.

This isn’t an “all or nothing” thing. It happens, it is known fact that it does happen, and it has incredibly serious consequences for the victims — the real victims — when it does.

Being concerned about those victims, and what false allegations do to them and their lives, is perfectly legitimate. It also does not necessitate any sort of strawman belief that all rape stories are false. But after Duke Lacross, UVA, and a number of other major incidents, a person would have to be mind-bogglingly dishonest to pretend like this isn’t a thing that happens.

I think this comment misses the point completely, while distorting it.

It’s not about whether false rape accusations happen. Of course they do. Cases such as this one remind us that although every rape claim should be taken seriously, they’re but a starting point for an investigation and that one can’t assign blame merely on say-so.

The point about those who “may have spread the idea that many women invent rape allegations” is still valid, because many wingnuts (MRAs like Chuck Johnson) simply assume that most reports are false. This adds fuel to their fire.

Notably, “many” becomes “some” in your rendering. I wonder why that is.

623 GunstarGreen  Apr 6, 2015 1:00:39pm

re: #622 Nyet

I think this comment misses the point completely, while distorting it.

It’s not about whether false rape accusations happen. Of course they do. Cases such as this one remind us that although every rape claim should be taken seriously, they’re but a starting point for an investigation and that one can’t assign blame merely on say-so.

The point about those who “may have spread the idea that many women invent rape allegations” is still valid, because many wingnuts (MRAs like Chuck Johnson) simply assume that most reports are false. This adds fuel to their fire.

Notably, “many” becomes “some” in your rendering. I wonder why that is.

Mainly because extrapolating from one to “many” edges very close to, as I said, treating it like an “all or nothing” phenomenon. That there are some nutbars out there who claim that most or all allegations are false does not diminish the severity of the cases that do occur, yet it is frequently argued in that fashion: to show any concern for victims of this sort of fraud is to be an MRA.

Yes, the primary issue here is bad journalism. But there is a very real secondary issue, which most seem to be ignoring, which is just how much of a witch hunt gets stirred up by this sort of thing when it does happen.

It’s been described in the initial few comments as “an honest mistake”, and I am left to wonder how much damage “an honest mistake” has to do to people before it becomes worthy of repercussions beyond having to say “whoops, my bad”.

624 Nyet  Apr 6, 2015 1:09:07pm

re: #623 GunstarGreen

While I agree that it’s more than a mere “honest mistake” and that there should be more repercussions than a slap on the wrist for playing with people’s lives (both of the alleged victim and of the accused) like Erdely and her editors did, you still did write “some” where the word used was actually “many”, and the difference is crucial. Nobody denies that “some” people make false rape allegations (no one knows - or can know - how many), so presenting it as if that is what was said and then debunking it (“look, the sky is blue!”) doesn’t look all that honest, sorry.

MRAs don’t simply claim that “some” women do it.


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