Debbie Wasserman Schultz Answers Rand Paul on Abortion, Paul Promptly Distorts the Hell Out of It

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Yesterday, as Rand Paul was desperately avoiding answering questions about his stance on abortion, he tried to deflect the issue by calling out DNC head Debbie Wasserman Schultz:

Later in the day, when asked after a campaign stop in Milford about the interview, which the Democratic National Committee had sent reporters, Paul said, “Why don’t we ask the DNC: Is it OK to kill a 7-pound baby in the uterus?”

“You go back and go ask (DNC head) Debbie Wasserman Schultz if she’s OK with killing a 7-pound baby that’s just not born yet,” Paul said. “Ask her when life begins, and ask Debbie when she’s willing to protect life. When you get an answer from Debbie, come back to me.”

Not one to pass up an opportunity like this, Wasserman Schultz responded in a statement to CNN:

“Here’s an answer. I support letting women and their doctors make this decision without government getting involved. Period. End of story. Now your turn, Senator Paul. We know you want to allow government officials like yourself to make this decision for women — but do you stand by your opposition to any exceptions, even when it comes to rape, incest, or life of the mother? Or do we just have different definitions of ‘personal liberty’? And I’d appreciate it if you could respond without ‘shushing’ me.”

Zing!

Rand Paul promptly proceeded to utterly distort Wasserman Schultz’s reply, because that’s how the right wing rolls.

“It sounds like her answer is yes, that she’s OK with killing a 7-pound baby,” Paul said.

“Debbie’s position, which I guess is the Democratic Party’s position, that an abortion all the way up until the day of birth would be fine, I really think most pro-choice people would be uncomfortable with that,” he continued.

Of course, that’s not what Wasserman Schultz said; not even close. She stated a very sensible position, that women and their doctors should be the ones to make this decision, not government. But in the twisted world of the Republican Party, demonizing your opponents by making them out to support murdering infants is just standard practice these days.

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214 comments
1 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 11:53:28am

Rand Paul is a pandering, lying twisted POS. Period.

2 darthstar  Apr 9, 2015 11:53:39am

BREAKING: Rand Paul picks fight with lady and loses…again. Film at eleven.

When is this asshole going to learn that he can’t just shout down every woman on the planet? Seriously, I think he believes that just shouting “DEBBIE WASSERMAN SHULTZ!!!11ty!” will help him win his primary battle against Ted Cruz - which, I suppose in the GOP, is a safe assumption. We’ll have to wait for the expert opinion of our house wingnut on that, but I think he’s at work.

3 Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2015 11:53:50am

The anti-abortionists have to fabricate an extreme example that never happens to justify their lie that they love the unborn of the poor.

4 darthstar  Apr 9, 2015 11:54:05am

re: #1 Justanotherhuman

Rand Paul is a pandering, lying twisted POS. Period.

You say ‘piece of shit’ like it’s a bad thing…oh, wait…

5 Ace-o-aces  Apr 9, 2015 11:54:41am
6 Jenner7  Apr 9, 2015 11:54:48am

I’m sorry, dumb question here, but….how do you abort a 7 pound baby?

7 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 9, 2015 11:54:59am

Rand probably just hasn’t thought about it enough to comment. He needs more time to figure out where he’s going to stand on it this time.

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8 Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2015 11:56:02am

Thing is, her response is usually the GOP response, “That decision should be between a patient and their doctor!” Hell, how many times have we heard since ‘09 about how the ACA needed to be repealed because “it gets between a patient and their doctor”? But suddenly, Paul wants to impose government in their relationship, but only in instances where it’s “moral.”

9 lawhawk  Apr 9, 2015 11:58:00am

Quick weather OT due to developing situation in Midwest:

On topic:

If it’s a day ending in Y, then the right wing is busy obfuscating, distorting, or otherwise lying about any issue du jour, including abortion rights.

10 allegro  Apr 9, 2015 11:58:05am

re: #6 Jenner7

I’m sorry, dumb question here, but….how do you abort a 7 pound baby?

It’s called giving birth.

11 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 9, 2015 11:58:46am

re: #8 Targetpractice

Thing is, her response is usually the GOP response, “That decision should be between a patient and their doctor!” Hell, how many times have we heard since ‘09 about how the ACA needed to be repealed because “it gets between a patient and their doctor”? But suddenly, Paul wants to impose government in their relationship, but only in instances where it’s “moral.”

Well, see, that’s interpreting the GOP response without the appropriate background. When you realize that the GOP doesn’t see women as having full rights, it makes complete sense that they don’t get to make all their own decisions regarding their health care.

Except for those GOPers who don’t have an opinion and so just vote for this anyway because go team.

12 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 9, 2015 11:59:03am

Next in Less Government Congress: Bills introduced to restrict abortion based on estimated weight of fetus.

13 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 9, 2015 12:00:20pm

Debbie Wasserman Schultz turned me into a newt!

14 Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2015 12:00:55pm

re: #11 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well, see, that’s interpreting the GOP response without the appropriate background. When you realize that the GOP doesn’t see women as having full rights, it makes complete sense that they don’t get to make all their own decisions regarding their health care.

Except for those GOPers who don’t have an opinion and so just vote for this anyway because go team.

It’s what makes Paul’s thin veneer of “libertarianism” such a joke. He’s a pandering asshole, which actually makes him worse than his daddy, as the old man generally made sure to stick to the same position. Remember how uncomfortable he was in the ‘12 debates when the audience roared with approval to the question of whether an uninsured man should be left to die. In the same spot, Aqua Buddah would have happily declared “Yes!”

15 lawhawk  Apr 9, 2015 12:03:19pm

re: #12 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Followed by at 2pm a discussion of what food and other consumable goods can be purchased by the poor. The panel will seek to limit discussion and limit food to gruel and HFCS. Televisions will be limited to CRTs 30 inches or less, and no smartphones will be allowed more current than an Apple 2.

16 allegro  Apr 9, 2015 12:05:06pm

re: #15 lawhawk

Followed by at 2pm a discussion of what food and other consumable goods can be purchased by the poor. The panel will seek to limit discussion and limit food to gruel and HFCS. Televisions will be limited to CRTs 30 inches or less, and no smartphones will be allowed more current than an Apple 2.

Wait… they can has smart phones?

17 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 12:05:16pm

Real doctors don’t mix up abortion, a medical procedure, and infanticide, a criminal act.

18 S'latch  Apr 9, 2015 12:07:42pm

Rand Paul is incredibly sleazy. He is super slick at playing to the Republican base.

19 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 12:09:17pm

POTUS wearing his summer weight grey suit and looking so fine.

20 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 9, 2015 12:09:57pm

What are Paul’s views on using eight rounds to abort someone who is running away?

21 EPR-radar  Apr 9, 2015 12:10:04pm

re: #18 S’latch

Rand Paul is incredibly sleazy. He is super slick at playing to the Republican base.

Agreed. This latest bit of pandering has earned him some positive coverage at RedState, which is rather surprising given the RedState position on libertarians and ‘Ronulans’.

22 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 12:11:40pm

re: #17 Justanotherhuman

Real doctors don’t mix up abortion, a medical procedure, and infanticide, a criminal act.

Please feel free to tweet ‘cause I don’t, although you may attract ignorant nutters. : )

23 Decatur Deb  Apr 9, 2015 12:14:27pm

re: #19 Justanotherhuman

POTUS wearing his summer weight grey suit and looking so fine.

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Mmmm Carib.

24 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 12:14:37pm

It gets worse, cont. Sorry about the FN, but it’s local.

2 volunteer fire chiefs also charged in Ellis County, Texas, hazing incident; allegedly tampered with witnesses, documents show - @FOX4

fox4news.com

I’ll never think of chorizo the same again.

25 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 9, 2015 12:16:40pm

re: #19 Justanotherhuman

POTUS wearing his summer weight grey suit and looking so fine.

Why is Obauma and his family on Vacation all the time How much is this costing TAXpayers!!??!?

26 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 12:16:51pm

Watch Live: President Obama attends a town hall at the University of the West Indies.

nbcnews.com

27 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 9, 2015 12:17:53pm

re: #16 allegro

Wait… they can has smart phones?

No. They must use dial phones only.

/

28 rhuarc  Apr 9, 2015 12:18:08pm

re: #9 lawhawk

Oh boy. I get to drive across Illinois along the I-88 corridor just as soon I’m done working for the day in a couple of hours. Should be a fun drive. ;)

29 Dr. Matt  Apr 9, 2015 12:18:15pm

It’s only April 2015 and the GOP Klown Kar is everything we hoped it would be.

30 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 12:20:20pm

Walter Scott ‘probably would be alive’ if 2013 Taser probe turned out differently, man says

postandcourier.com

“The man who complained about North Charleston Patrolman 1st Class Michael Slager’s actions in a 2013 Taser incident said he thinks Walter L. Scott would be alive today if the officer had been faulted for the ordeal, he said Thursday during a news conference.

“(Scott) probably would be alive,” Mario Givens said. “If they investigated it, (Slager) wouldn’t have been in the field.”

“Givens, 34, said Slager pulled him from his house as he wore boxer shorts that September for no reason and shocked him with a Taser.” More

31 EPR-radar  Apr 9, 2015 12:20:44pm

From a right-wing point of view, DWS’s stated position of opposing any law that restricts abortion is identical to approval of any and all abortions.

So Rand Paul’s twisting of this issue is a somewhat smaller distortion of reality than is usual among RWNjs.

32 Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2015 12:23:50pm

Stalker weighs in.

If you have a Twitter account, please report this lunatic for harassment, folks. I’d greatly appreciate it.

33 thecommodore  Apr 9, 2015 12:24:44pm

While we’re on the topic of right wing distortions, since it’s Throwback Thursday, let’s go back to March 9, 2010, and a famous right wing distortion of a quote by then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi about the Affordable Care Act. Now she did say, “but we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it:”

But she actually spoke for more than seven minutes about the bill and it’s benefits prior to saying that, and once you hear that, the context changes greatly:

But the truncated quote is what made the rounds of talk radio and Fox “News,” and it still comes up occasionally amongst the dittoheads who still try to bemoan the very existence of Obamacare, and who probably have no idea, five years later, that this quote had a very important context which was stripped out.

This is the right wing mind at work on a daily basis.

34 lawhawk  Apr 9, 2015 12:26:50pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Done. And Done.

35 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 9, 2015 12:27:25pm

re: #33 thecommodore

While we’re on the topic of right wing distortions, since it’s Throwback Thursday, let’s go back to March 9, 2010, and a famous right wing distortion of a quote by then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi about the Affordable Care Act. Now she did say, “but we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it:”

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But the truncated quote is what made the rounds of talk radio and Fox “News,” and it still comes up occasionally amongst the dittoheads who still try to bemoan the very existence of Obamacare, and who probably have no idea, five years later, that this quote had a very important context which was stripped out.

This is the right wing mind at work on a daily basis.

It don’t matter what else Nancy said about Obamacare just all lies context don’t matter and Oh, where is rest of video of Walter Scott shooting that shows Scott strong arm thugging cop?

36 Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2015 12:29:36pm

re: #34 lawhawk

Thank you!

37 Kragar  Apr 9, 2015 12:30:02pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

They think Gosnell is what happens when abortion is legal, instead of realizing its what happens when you remove safe, affordable options for women.

38 Dr. Matt  Apr 9, 2015 12:31:03pm

re: #34 lawhawk

Done. And Done.

x2

39 Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2015 12:32:13pm

re: #38 Dr. Matt

Danke!

40 jaunte  Apr 9, 2015 12:32:17pm

re: #18 S’latch

Rand Paul is incredibly sleazy.

This is a trend among R candidates.

41 thecommodore  Apr 9, 2015 12:32:24pm

re: #35 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

It don’t matter what else Nancy said about Obamacare just all lies context don’t matter and Oh, where is rest of video of Walter Scott shooting that shows Scott strong arm thugging cop?

I’ve seen that very thing posted on right wing blogs and message boards - WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE VIDEO CAMERA WAS TURNED ON???

What happened AFTER it was turned on is all that matters in this case - you see a 100% unjustifiable police shooting, and then the attempts of the shooting cop to cover his ass.

42 jaunte  Apr 9, 2015 12:32:30pm

x3

43 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 9, 2015 12:32:37pm

Fake doctor talks about doctor stuffs!

44 Dr. Matt  Apr 9, 2015 12:32:51pm

re: #37 Kragar

They think Gosnell is what happens when abortion is legal, instead of realizing its what happens when you remove safe, affordable options for women.

If they want to link that monster to all Ob/Gyns, then we can link Timothy McVeigh to all ammosexual 2A fantatics.

45 Mike Lamb  Apr 9, 2015 12:33:20pm

re: #37 Kragar

They think Gosnell is what happens when abortion is legal, instead of realizing its what happens when you remove safe, affordable options for women.

Objection: Assumes facts not in evidence.

46 Frenchy  Apr 9, 2015 12:33:24pm

Rand Paul sure is acting awfully presidential these days. His young campaign seems to be going swimmingly.

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47 lawhawk  Apr 9, 2015 12:33:31pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Gosnell should have been caught by PA authorities much sooner for butchering women (and running a pill mill in PA and DE). It was a failure by all law enforcement and health authorities involved.

He rightfully deserved to be charged w/murder - of the women who came to him seeking abortions. And for breaking the law on late term abortions too.

His was an example of what a back-alley abortion clinic would look like when the right wing gets its way across the nation (especially as TRAP laws shutter existing facilities even as those facilities have fewer complications than surgical centers or plastic surgery centers resulting in serious injuries or deaths of the patients).

48 Drive By Commenter  Apr 9, 2015 12:33:45pm

Rand Paul opens an amusement park. Top billed ride will be “Turd Mountain.” With him on top. Waving.

49 Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2015 12:34:08pm

re: #9 lawhawk

Quick weather OT due to developing situation in Midwest:

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On topic:

If it’s a day ending in Y, then the right wing is busy obfuscating, distorting, or otherwise lying about any issue du jour, including abortion rights.

Lots of surface flooding here. Clean out your catch basins people!

50 Dave In Austin  Apr 9, 2015 12:34:41pm

X4

51 thecommodore  Apr 9, 2015 12:36:38pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Count me among those throwing that psycho into THE TWITTER GULAG!!!1!11!!!11!1!1!

That spud is one of many who spend all day stalking someone on Twitter they say is irrelevant. #profoundstupidity #idiots #idiocy #rightwingderangement #thesepeopleneedhelp

52 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 12:37:20pm

re: #33 thecommodore

While we’re on the topic of right wing distortions, since it’s Throwback Thursday, let’s go back to March 9, 2010, and a famous right wing distortion of a quote by then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi about the Affordable Care Act. Now she did say, “but we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it:”

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But the truncated quote is what made the rounds of talk radio and Fox “News,” and it still comes up occasionally amongst the dittoheads who still try to bemoan the very existence of Obamacare, and who probably have no idea, five years later, that this quote had a very important context which was stripped out.

This is the right wing mind at work on a daily basis.

To the Right, a video or soundbite always trumps reality. Thus, the Pelosi quote trumps the fact that the Senate bill that is the bulk of the ACA, which was passed by the House and signed by the President, was available online for THREE MONTHS before the House passed it.

And of course there’s some video of Barney Frank that they use to ‘prove’ that Frank and Chris Dodd caused the mortgage debt crisis, that they stopped the GOP from doing anything to prevent it. Except both were in the MINORITY the whole time the crisis was building up. Point that out to the wingnut, and he’ll tell you to watch the video. Ask them what bills the GOP put forward that would have stopped the crisis, and ask them how two lawmakers in the minority caucus stopped them, and they’ll refer you to the video.

53 thecommodore  Apr 9, 2015 12:37:31pm

re: #46 Frenchy

Rand Paul sure is acting awfully presidential these days. His young campaign seems to be going swimmingly.

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It’s almost Reaganesque.

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54 Dr Lizardo  Apr 9, 2015 12:37:45pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Done x5.

55 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 12:37:54pm

So, here’s the latest grasping for straws, Slager is the one who got tazed:

O_o

56 thecommodore  Apr 9, 2015 12:39:09pm

re: #52 Blind Frog Belly White

To the Right, a video or soundbite always trumps reality. Thus, the Pelosi quote trumps the fact that the Senate bill that is the bulk of the ACA, which was passed by the House and signed by the President, was available online for THREE MONTHS before the House passed it.

And of course there’s some video of Barney Frank that they use to ‘prove’ that Frank and Chris Dodd caused the mortgage debt crisis, that they stopped the GOP from doing anything to prevent it. Except both were in the MINORITY the whole time the crisis was building up. Point that out to the wingnut, and he’ll tell you to watch the video. Ask them what bills the GOP put forward that would have stopped the crisis, and ask them how two lawmakers in the minority caucus stopped them, and they’ll refer you to the video.

OH GOD! The old FREDDIE AND FANNIE CAUSED THE CRASH trope.

Gives me a headache every time I see those words.

57 Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2015 12:40:06pm

re: #53 thecommodore

It’s almost Reaganesque.

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That mantle belongs to Walker.

derp
58 Varek Raith  Apr 9, 2015 12:41:03pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, here’s the latest grasping for straws, Slager is the one who got tazed:

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O_o

Heh.
If that were true, they’d have posted the pics of the wounds from the prongs.
/Morans

59 Mike Lamb  Apr 9, 2015 12:41:34pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, here’s the latest grasping for straws, Slager is the one who got tazed:

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O_o

This moron thinks the officer would be able to calmly aim/fire directly after being tazed?

60 Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2015 12:41:51pm

re: #50 Dave In Austin

X4

Arigato!

61 Mike Lamb  Apr 9, 2015 12:42:03pm

re: #58 Varek Raith

Heh.
If that were true, they’d have posted the pics of the wounds from the prongs.
/Morans

And it’s exceedingly likely the officer wouldn’t have been charged.

62 Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2015 12:42:06pm

re: #42 jaunte

x3

Gracias!

63 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 12:42:29pm

re: #56 thecommodore

OH GOD! The old FREDDIE AND FANNIE CAUSED THE CRASH trope.

Gives me a headache every time I see those words.

Well, and Jimmy Carter, by passing the Community Reinvestment Act 30 years prior. Somehow it took that long for it to work.

And somehow, it managed to work its evil in neighborhoods where it was not in force, and through mortgage bankers who were not subject to it.

<Insert eyerolling gif here.>

64 Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2015 12:42:46pm

A really good piece on this insane Republican “late-term abortion” deception: The Problem With the GOP’s ‘Gotcha’ Question on Abortion.

65 Lidane  Apr 9, 2015 12:42:47pm

And I’d love to have Bill Gates-style money and Sofia Vergara’s figure, but that’s not going to happen either.

Beck is such a tool.

66 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 12:43:42pm

re: #65 Lidane

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And I’d love to have Bill Gates-style money and Sofia Vergara’s figure, but that’s not going to happen either.

Beck is such a tool.

I’d settle for Bill Gates figure and Sofia Vergara’s money.

67 Varek Raith  Apr 9, 2015 12:44:03pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Reported.

69 lawhawk  Apr 9, 2015 12:44:21pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cops behaving badly, Part (i’ve lost count)

70 Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2015 12:44:37pm

re: #67 Varek Raith

Reported.

Merci beaucoup!

71 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 12:45:05pm
72 lawhawk  Apr 9, 2015 12:45:16pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

Think you’re going to need to come up with more foreign language thank yous… :)

73 Kragar  Apr 9, 2015 12:46:07pm
74 Lidane  Apr 9, 2015 12:46:16pm

re: #19 Justanotherhuman

POTUS’s ongoing message to the GOP:

75 Kragar  Apr 9, 2015 12:46:40pm
76 Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2015 12:47:05pm
77 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 9, 2015 12:47:23pm

re: #65 Lidane

By the time the next president is in office Rand Paul will be considered a stinkin’ commie liberal by Congressional Republicans.

78 Jenner7  Apr 9, 2015 12:47:51pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

An elective abortion procedure just one day before a baby is due to be born certainly does sound extreme. But this procedure doesn’t really exist — and is hardly a logical outcome in a society in which decisions about abortion are left between a patient and a doctor.

And Rand should know this. His question to DWS was absurd and his idiot followers fell for it.

79 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 12:48:05pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

Rand Paul Campaign Sends Cease-and-Desist to Stations Running Iran Attack Ad

Welcome to the big leagues, Rand. You’re not in Kentucky anymore.

80 Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2015 12:50:04pm

How is getting pregnant after being raped some kind of extreme situation? Also, how has discourse fallen so low that anti abortionists are allowed the extreme position of no exceptions for rape? I’m sorry but if a woman wants to remove the filthy DNA of the rapist, it is her decision.

81 JDRhoades  Apr 9, 2015 12:50:13pm

demonizing your opponents by making them out to support murdering infants is just standard practice these days.

“These days”? It’s been standard practice since the day after Roe v. Wade was decided.

82 HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2015 12:50:19pm

re: #73 Kragar

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I thought wingers were against frivolous lawsuits. Oh wait, different standards for themselves.

83 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 9, 2015 12:50:26pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

Welcome to the big leagues, Rand. You’re not in Kentucky anymore.

The letter is an objection to a million-dollar ad buy by a group called the Foundation for a Secure and Prosperous America, led by Republican operative Rick Reed. The ad, which launched in early primary states on the day of Paul’s presidential campaign announcement, accuses Paul of supporting President Obama’s policies on Iran and of opposing new sanctions.

Well, that escalated quickly.

84 HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2015 12:50:49pm

re: #80 Amory Blaine

How is getting pregnant after being raped some kind of extreme situation? Also, how has discourse fallen so low that anti abortionists are allowed the extreme position of no exceptions for rape? I’m sorry but if a woman wants to remove the filthy DNA of the rapist, it is her decision.

It definitely shouldn’t be the decision of some tool like Rand who has never met her.

85 lawhawk  Apr 9, 2015 12:52:35pm

re: #73 Kragar

86 Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2015 12:54:03pm
87 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 12:54:41pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

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It’s the Newt Gingrich method of campaigning.

88 Varek Raith  Apr 9, 2015 12:54:42pm

Heh, Rand is going to get torn to shreds in the primary debates.

89 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 12:55:25pm

90 Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2015 12:56:20pm

Taking debate points from his hero Alex Jones.

91 Varek Raith  Apr 9, 2015 12:57:27pm

re: #90 Amory Blaine

Taking debate points from his hero Alex Jones.

His talking points are false flags???
/

92 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 12:58:03pm

Man, oh man! The 150th anniversary of Appomattox is sure bringing the racist morons out to play on FB!

93 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 1:00:28pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

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RON Paul is a principled moron. He’s at least consistent.

RAND Paul is an UNprincipled moron. He thinks he can spend a lifetime building his cred as one kind of guy, then claim to be a different kind of guy, and nobody will notice.

94 wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2015 1:00:39pm

Does he ‘shush’ you?

95 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 1:01:29pm

re: #94 wrenchwench

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Does he ‘shush’ you?

Maybe we need a new term - Randsplaining?

96 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 1:02:02pm

re: #94 wrenchwench

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Does he ‘shush’ you?

If he ever did that to me I would give him a side eye of concern and ask if he needed an inhaler.

97 Lidane  Apr 9, 2015 1:02:50pm

What could possibly go wrong?

98 wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2015 1:03:28pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

If he ever did that to me I would give him a side eye of concern and ask if he needed an inhaler.

Allow me to deliver the inhaler.

99 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 1:04:58pm

re: #97 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

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smh at that sign at middle of the top of the pic. Apparently there was one word that was fixed with pasting something over part of it, but then “ABORTONS” is left untouched.

100 Kragar  Apr 9, 2015 1:05:50pm

re: #97 Lidane

“Women deserve better than an abortion”

Right, they deserve ready access to affordable birth control, negating the need for most abortions in the first place.

101 danarchy  Apr 9, 2015 1:07:42pm

re: #80 Amory Blaine

How is getting pregnant after being raped some kind of extreme situation? Also, how has discourse fallen so low that anti abortionists are allowed the extreme position of no exceptions for rape? I’m sorry but if a woman wants to remove the filthy DNA of the rapist, it is her decision.

To be honest I have always thought the no exceptions people made more sense to me. If you really believe abortion=murder it seems a little weird to carve out exceptions. “It’s murder but it’s ok in this instance because someone else broke the law first.”

I mean, it is a repugnant position, but at least it’s consistent.

102 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 9, 2015 1:08:50pm

re: #100 Kragar

“Women deserve better than an abortion”

Right, they deserve ready access to affordable birth control, negating the need for most abortions in the first place.

All BC is ABortionz and killing 8 pound babies!!!

103 wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2015 1:10:07pm

re: #101 danarchy

To be honest I have always thought the no exceptions people made more sense to me. If you really believe abortion=murder it seems a little weird to carve out exceptions. “It’s murder but it’s ok in this instance because someone else broke the law first.”

I mean, it is a repugnant position, but at least it’s consistent.

There is no consistent position that opposes the legality of abortion. Either women have rights or they don’t.

104 wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2015 1:11:53pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

There is no consistent position that opposes the legality of abortion. Either women have rights or they don’t.

fixt it.

105 Lidane  Apr 9, 2015 1:12:42pm
106 Varek Raith  Apr 9, 2015 1:12:55pm
107 makeitstop  Apr 9, 2015 1:16:43pm

re: #88 Varek Raith

Heh, Rand is going to get torn to shreds in the primary debates.

If he even lasts that long.

He’s one ‘bad temper’ day from a total meltdown.

108 Lidane  Apr 9, 2015 1:17:23pm

*facepalm*

Because what could go wrong in a general election if you keep pandering to the nutjobs?

109 Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2015 1:19:43pm

re: #108 Lidane

*facepalm*

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Because what could go wrong in a general election if you keep pandering to the nutjobs?

This really is gonna be a sight to behold come next year. The GOP is gonna spend the better part of this year playing to the base’s social warfare demands, then get to the day after the nomination…and find out that half the shit they said they were for is so far outside the mainstream that they might as well be on Mars.

110 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 1:20:50pm

re: #107 makeitstop

If he even lasts that long.

He’s one ‘bad temper’ day from a total meltdown.

With the kind of campaign he’s running, I’d have a meltdown, too.

111 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 9, 2015 1:21:01pm

re: #95 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe we need a new term - Randsplaining?

Romneybot and the Randroid will adopt all positions. And thus be unlocatable and impossible to pin down.
/

112 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 1:21:31pm
113 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 1:23:33pm

You go, Mr. President!

At town hall in Jamaica, President Obama announces $70 million for job training, education for Caribbean youth
end of alert

114 CuriousLurker  Apr 9, 2015 1:25:56pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

That expression on the face of the woman in the middle holding up the crucifix? It makes my temples throb—it’s the exact same expression I used to see on the face of my mother and her born again buddies. *gag*

I assure you that there is no way to reason with them once they’re at that point—they’ve worked themselves up into an emotional religious frenzy that isn’t in any way connected to the reality that the rest of us are living in outside their little group. It’s not “spirituality”, it’s a form of (psychological) pathology.

Okay, I need to back away from this shit before my head explodes.

Later, lizards.

115 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 1:27:53pm

Good grief. It appears the Walter Scott murder was just the tip of the iceberg. The brutality evidently runs wide and deep against minorities in the Charleston area.

Second officer in Walter Scott video sued over alleged attack on handcuffed man
Clarence Habersham, who was with Michael Slager during shooting, is being sued by another black resident who alleges police stomped on his face

theguardian.com

‘The second policeman in the video showing Walter Scott’s killing by officer Michael Slager is being sued by another black resident in South Carolina, who alleges police stomped on his face while he was handcuffed and lying on concrete.

“Clarence Habersham is among five North Charleston police officers named in a federal lawsuit brought by Sheldon Williams, who claims he was left with broken bones in his face after being assaulted.

“Williams, 47, alleges he suffered “severe pain for months after the attack” and that his face was left “so swollen that his left eye was barely visible”. He continues to endure “flashbacks and other post-traumatic stress symptoms”, he claims, and is seeking damages.” More

116 Kragar  Apr 9, 2015 1:27:58pm
117 EPR-radar  Apr 9, 2015 1:28:16pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

There is no consistent position that opposes the legality of abortion. Either women have rights or they don’t.

To be a bit pedantic, it is perfectly consistent to oppose legal abortion and to believe that women are second-class people, as much of the GOP does.

What is inconsistent is supporting abortion laws and pretending to be for women’s rights.

118 wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2015 1:30:20pm

re: #117 EPR-radar

To be a bit pedantic, it is perfectly consistent to oppose legal abortion and to believe that women are second-class people, as much of the GOP does.

What is inconsistent is supporting abortion laws and pretending to be for women’s rights.

OK, no reasonable position.

We love our pedants here, don’t we? :)

119 Lidane  Apr 9, 2015 1:32:02pm

This should go over well:

120 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 9, 2015 1:32:23pm

re: #107 makeitstop

If he even lasts that long.

He’s one ‘bad temper’ day from a total meltdown.

Is Rand Paul this cycle’s Howard Dean?

121 lawhawk  Apr 9, 2015 1:32:48pm

Footage from February shows a Miami Garden mentally-ill man didn’t have to die at hands of a Miami cop. Shocking, I know.

The tense and fatal encounter between Lavall Hall, a 25-year-old mentally ill man, and officer Eddo Trimino in February was partially captured on a patrol car dashcam video released Wednesday for the first time by Hall’s family. The 19-minute video is clear enough to see muzzle flashes and flying shell casings, but it also leaves enough unseen to only add to the controversy surrounding the shooting.

Hall’s grieving family believes the video — particularly a clip their attorneys had produced in slow-motion — shows that Trimino used excessive force and had no need to fire his weapon.

Once again, a mentally ill person dies at the hands of police who shoot first, often, and often without justifiable cause (as video frequently reveals).

The more anyone looks at excessive force/deadly force incidents, the more you see disturbing trends - whether it is the disproportionate effect on minorities or on the mentally ill.

Cops are entrusted with tremendous responsibilities and given wide latitude to do their jobs, but we’re seeing that far too many are judge, jury, and executioner with a willing partner from politicians and prosecutors to avoid/prevent any consequences of those incidents.

122 EPR-radar  Apr 9, 2015 1:33:16pm

re: #80 Amory Blaine

How is getting pregnant after being raped some kind of extreme situation? Also, how has discourse fallen so low that anti abortionists are allowed the extreme position of no exceptions for rape? I’m sorry but if a woman wants to remove the filthy DNA of the rapist, it is her decision.

Back in the day, I would occasionally entertain myself by pointing out to conservatives that an abortion ban with no rape exception essentially amounts to a state endorsement of rape as a reproductive strategy.

This tends to provoke outrage, but no real counter-argument.

123 Varek Raith  Apr 9, 2015 1:33:51pm

re: #120 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Is Rand Paul this cycle’s Howard Dean?

YEAH!

124 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 1:34:19pm

re: #108 Lidane

*facepalm*

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Because what could go wrong in a general election if you keep pandering to the nutjobs?

There’s something even more fundamental going on here. Rand Paul pointed to it in what we all thought was just stupid phrasing - “The state doesn’t own your children. Parents own the children…”

The GOP is saying this should be an issue for families to decide because they have a fundamentally different view of children and their rights.

Children have the same basic rights as adults, and it’s the responsibility of parents and government to uphold those rights. That’s why you can choose not to receive a blood transfusion, and die from it, but you can’t refuse it for your child. Similarly, you can choose to get ‘conversion therapy’ for yourself, but you can’t force it on your child.

This all changes if children are NOT individuals with their own rights, but rather the property of their parents, to do with as they please. If children are your property, you have the right to try and force them to be as you want them to be.

125 No Country For Old Haters  Apr 9, 2015 1:35:02pm

re: #108 Lidane

*facepalm*

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Because what could go wrong in a general election if you keep pandering to the nutjobs?

126 wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2015 1:36:26pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s something even more fundamental going on here. Rand Paul pointed to it in what we all thought was just stupid phrasing - “The state doesn’t own your children. Parents own the children…”

The GOP is saying this should be an issue for families to decide because they have a fundamentally different view of children and their rights.

Children have the same basic rights as adults, and it’s the responsibility of parents and government to uphold those rights. That’s why you can choose not to receive a blood transfusion, and die from it, but you can’t refuse it for your child. Similarly, you can choose to get ‘conversion therapy’ for yourself, but you can’t force it on your child.

This all changes if children are NOT individuals with their own rights, but rather the property of their parents, to do with as they please. If children are your property, you have the right to try and force them to be as you want them to be.

According to Rand Paul (and so many other Republicans) only men have rights.

127 wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2015 1:37:02pm
128 EPR-radar  Apr 9, 2015 1:37:30pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s something even more fundamental going on here. Rand Paul pointed to it in what we all thought was just stupid phrasing - “The state doesn’t own your children. Parents own the children…”

The GOP is saying this should be an issue for families to decide because they have a fundamentally different view of children and their rights.

Children have the same basic rights as adults, and it’s the responsibility of parents and government to uphold those rights. That’s why you can choose not to receive a blood transfusion, and die from it, but you can’t refuse it for your child. Similarly, you can choose to get ‘conversion therapy’ for yourself, but you can’t force it on your child.

This all changes if children are NOT individuals with their own rights, but rather the property of their parents, to do with as they please. If children are your property, you have the right to try and force them to be as you want them to be.

This logic, if applied consistently (fat chance of that) would lead to a GOP endorsement of abortion.

After all, wouldn’t it be strange if a born child had less individual rights than an unborn fetus?

As always, all this does is expose the underlying misogyny of the ‘pro-life’ movement.

129 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 1:39:29pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

I thought the days of owning human beings was pretty much over, but this is one of those exceptions, I suppose, putting the right wing in the same columnn as human traffickers and others.

130 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 1:41:05pm

Asked about Cuba, President Obama says it’s important to speak honestly about issues of human rights and political freedom; says ‘I’m not saying anything publicly that I haven’t said directly to Raul Castro’
end of alert

131 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 1:41:14pm

re: #128 EPR-radar

This logic, if applied consistently (fat chance of that) would lead to a GOP endorsement of abortion.

After all, wouldn’t it be strange if a born child had less individual rights than an unborn fetus?

As always, all this does is expose the underlying misogyny of the ‘pro-life’ movement.

Indeed. But of course, abortion involves sexytime and provides the opportunity for slutshaming - even in the case of rape - so that’s different!

But, the whole ownership and lack of any responsibility/authority for society in general for the welfare of children is consistent with cutting SNAP, WIC, and other programs that benefit children.

132 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 9, 2015 1:41:40pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s something even more fundamental going on here. Rand Paul pointed to it in what we all thought was just stupid phrasing - “The state doesn’t own your children. Parents own the children…”

The GOP is saying this should be an issue for families to decide because they have a fundamentally different view of children and their rights.

Children have the same basic rights as adults, and it’s the responsibility of parents and government to uphold those rights. That’s why you can choose not to receive a blood transfusion, and die from it, but you can’t refuse it for your child. Similarly, you can choose to get ‘conversion therapy’ for yourself, but you can’t force it on your child.

This all changes if children are NOT individuals with their own rights, but rather the property of their parents, to do with as they please. If children are your property, you have the right to try and force them to be as you want them to be.

They are not even consistent there. They want to be able to teach *all* children their chosen religious and political world view.

133 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 1:42:11pm

Good for them.

Walter Scott family attorney says they plan to file federal civil lawsuit against North Charleston, SC, police, former officer Slager - @policereporter, @offlede
end of alert

134 wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2015 1:42:19pm

re: #131 Blind Frog Belly White

Indeed. But of course, abortion involves sexytime and provides the opportunity for slutshaming - even in the case of rape - so that’s different!

But, the whole ownership and lack of any responsibility/authority for society in general for the welfare of children is consistent with cutting SNAP, WIC, and other programs that benefit children.

Obamacare lets poor mothers care for their fetuses.

135 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 1:43:24pm

re: #132 Feline Fearless Leader

They are not even consistent there. They want to be able to teach *all* children their chosen religious and political world view.

A faith-based worldview does not require consistency, especially if it’s a faith in a god who shares all your prejudices and hates all the same people as you.

136 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 9, 2015 1:43:27pm

re: #128 EPR-radar

This logic, if applied consistently (fat chance of that) would lead to a GOP endorsement of abortion.

After all, wouldn’t it be strange if a born child had less individual rights than an unborn fetus?

As always, all this does is expose the underlying misogyny of the ‘pro-life’ movement.

Well, if you make the assumption that the women don’t have rights but instead the right to make decisions regarding their health care rests with the male responsible for them… it’s not necessarily inconsistent with denial of abortion access.

After all, you can’t have the woman making a decision about her own body.

137 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 1:44:06pm

re: #134 wrenchwench

Obamacare lets poor mothers care for their fetuses.

Don’t make me get Rand Paul to shush you!
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138 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 1:44:32pm

21 people dead in shipwreck off Haiti coast, official says; those on board were trying to reach Turks and Caicos - @AFP
read more on globalpost.com

139 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 1:45:23pm

They can’t be honest and just admit that it’s all about punishing women because they deserve to be punished.

140 wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2015 1:46:35pm

re: #137 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t make me get Rand Paul to shush you!
////

Let me get the inhaler…

141 danarchy  Apr 9, 2015 1:46:58pm

OT - Has anyone seen a picture of Penn Jillette recently? He may be more healthy, but he certainly doesn’t look more healthy.

Penn Jillette loses over 100 Lbs

142 BeachDem  Apr 9, 2015 1:49:02pm

re: #119 Lidane

This should go over well:

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Three days in and I am officially sick of Rand Paul’s presidential campaign.

Are any of the media drones following Martin O’Malley around and hanging on his every word as they’re doing with this giant Zero?

And, I suppose that, although it will give us a respite from Random, they’ll all be falling all over themselves to hear the rest of the losers ranting at the NRA wingnutpalooza this weekend. Yeah, I so care what Carson, Cruz, Walker, Palin, Trump and the rest of the morons have to say. Guess I’ll get my taxes done on time after all.

143 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 1:49:06pm

More: Walter Scott family attorney says he does not know if wrongful death lawsuit will contain a racial component; says aspect of the case remains under investigation - @postandcourier
read more on postandcourier.com

144 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 1:49:12pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

They can’t be honest and just admit that it’s all about punishing women because they deserve to be punished.

Oh, I’m not sure it’s ALL about that. I think there’s SOME part of it that is about protecting babies, but the insistence that a unicellular ovum is equal to a post-birth human, just because it’s diploid is ludicrous.

I bet many of them don’t even know how much of their fervor is about controlling and punishing women.

145 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 1:49:39pm

re: #141 danarchy

OT - Has anyone seen a picture of Penn Jillette recently? He may be more healthy, but he certainly doesn’t look more healthy.

Penn Jillette loses over 100 Lbs

He said he didn’t exercise, so that explains a lot.
Starving yourself will make you lose weight, but exercise (even if it’s just brisk walking) is just as important.

146 #FergusonFireside  Apr 9, 2015 1:50:43pm

re: #142 BeachDem

Three days in and I am officially sick of Rand Paul’s presidential campaign.

Are any of the media drones following Martin O’Malley around and hanging on his every work as they’re doing with this giant Zero?

And, I suppose that, although it will give us a respite from Random, they’ll all be falling all over themselves to hear the rest of the losers ranting at the NRA wingnutpalooza this weekend. Yeah, I so care what Carson, Cruz, Walker, Palin, Trump and the rest of the morons have to say. Guess I’ll get my taxes done on time after all.

147 BeachDem  Apr 9, 2015 1:50:53pm

re: #120 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Is Rand Paul this cycle’s Howard Dean?

Sure, except that Rand has about 1-millionth of Dean’s intelligence and less than that of his actual credentials for running.

148 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 9, 2015 1:51:39pm

re: #147 BeachDem

Sure, except that Rand has about 1-millionth of Dean’s intelligence and less than that of his actual credentials for running.

I won’t argue with you there.

149 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 1:51:43pm

re: #141 danarchy

OT - Has anyone seen a picture of Penn Jillette recently? He may be more healthy, but he certainly doesn’t look more healthy.

Penn Jillette loses over 100 Lbs

He’s still an asshole. Entertaining, but an asshole.

150 BigPapa  Apr 9, 2015 1:51:57pm

It’s quite clear that Paul’s position is not about actual people of babies, it’s about ‘the sanctity of life.’ Meaning this thing that the unborn represents is more important than actual human beings.

It’s about control. Nothing more.

He’s such a fucking slimeball.

151 ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2015 1:53:25pm

re: #107 makeitstop

If he even lasts that long.

He’s one ‘bad temper’ day from a total meltdown.

That was my thinking in an earlier thread. I said maybe by the end of the year he would be done. At the rate things are going for him I may need to rethink the timing.

Hell, he might not make another month.

I don’t think Rand has been bright enough to understand he is inviting everyone to go mining for everything in his past and it is all going to be coming at him in a mad rush.

I guess that is what happens when you are an arrogant ass who thinks he is a genius politician.

Man, this is going to be fun.

Maybe by the 4th of July we can watch the night sky and see all the Rand Rockets going off as his campaign and little credibility goes up like a giant fire work. The Rand Candle.

152 Lidane  Apr 9, 2015 1:53:46pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s something even more fundamental going on here. Rand Paul pointed to it in what we all thought was just stupid phrasing - “The state doesn’t own your children. Parents own the children…”

The GOP is saying this should be an issue for families to decide because they have a fundamentally different view of children and their rights.

I hadn’t even thought of that, but you’re right.

In the Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association case, Clarence Thomas’s entire dissent was predicated on the idea that until kids are 18, their parents have total control over their children and to who and what can access them. In the notes for his opinion, even Scalia admits that Thomas pulled this out of his ass:

JUSTICE THOMAS ignores the holding of Erznoznik, and denies that persons under 18 have any constitutional right to speak or be spoken to without their parents’ consent. He cites no case, state or federal, supporting this view, and to our knowledge there is none. Most of his dissent is devoted to the proposition that parents have traditionally had the power to control what their children hear and say. This is true enough. And it perhaps follows from this that the state has the power to enforce parental prohibitions—to require, for example, that the promoters of a rock concert exclude those minors whose parents have advised the promoters that their children are forbidden to attend. But it does not follow that the state has the power to prevent children from hearing or saying anything without their parents’ prior consent.

I suspect that Thomas’s idea about children is a normal one on the far right. If your child is your property until they’re 18, not only can you require the state to shield your kids from things you find objectionable (i.e., “BAN ALL TEH GHEY BECAUSE OF THE CHILDREN!”), but you can ALSO do whatever you want to your kids if you want to change some aspect of who they are, like “conversion therapy”.

153 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 1:54:58pm

re: #141 danarchy

He’s 60. Losing that amount of weight at an advanced age results in a lot of loose skin that doesn’t tighten up as fast (if at all) when you’re much younger. I lost 25% of my weight a couple of years ago, and looked just as sickly. Putting about 10 lbs back on helped.

154 Iwouldprefernotto  Apr 9, 2015 1:55:04pm

re: #25 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Why is Obauma and his family on Vacation all the time How much is this costing TAXpayers!!??!?

200 million dollars a day (plus expenses)

155 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 1:55:08pm
156 BeachDem  Apr 9, 2015 1:55:56pm

re: #146 #FergusonFireside

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Or buy a tiny piece of electrical tape—if only there were a Rand Paul blocker—I’d actually pay for that!

157 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 1:56:51pm

re: #156 BeachDem

Or buy a tiny piece of electrical tape—if only there were a Rand Paul blocker—I’d actually pay for that!

I’d just use a post-it note, but that’s me.

158 wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2015 1:58:46pm

Arpaio wishes he had one a couple of years ago:

159 ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2015 1:59:13pm

re: #120 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Is Rand Paul this cycle’s Howard Dean?

Oh hell no. Howard Dean was mild by comparison. The little “eeeyoooww” scream is going to be a blip on the political death scale compared to the tonnage Rand Paul is going to display.

Buy Popcorn Futures!

160 Kragar  Apr 9, 2015 1:59:50pm

re: #125 No Country For Old Haters

161 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 2:01:38pm

When asked about legalizing marijuana at town hall in Jamaica, President Obama says he doesn’t ‘foresee Congress changing law at a national basis’
end of alert

162 jaunte  Apr 9, 2015 2:02:04pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

“we will not relent until victory is ours”

“I have given two cousins to war and I stand ready to sacrifice my wife’s brother.”

163 Kragar  Apr 9, 2015 2:02:35pm
164 wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2015 2:02:47pm
165 ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2015 2:04:22pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

They can’t be honest and just admit that it’s all about punishing women because they deserve to be punished.

Damn that Eve!

Republican men dream about the Garden of Eden they were kicked out of for listening to “the little woman.”

Apparently it was a lesson they will never forget and must even out somehow.

166 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 2:05:03pm
167 jaunte  Apr 9, 2015 2:05:35pm

re: #163 Kragar

What Price Free Dumb?

168 Lidane  Apr 9, 2015 2:05:41pm

re: #163 Kragar

He’s also charging $1,000 for a signed pocket-sized copy of the Constitution.

169 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 2:06:20pm

re: #168 Lidane

He’s also charging $1,000 for a signed pocket-sized copy of the Constitution.

Couldn’t you just tape THAT over the webcam?
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170 Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2015 2:07:18pm

And let’s not forget the ‘Stand With Rand’ Flip Flops Sandals!

171 Romantic Heretic  Apr 9, 2015 2:07:48pm

re: #4 darthstar

You say ‘piece of shit’ like it’s a bad thing…oh, wait…

At least shit can be used as fertilizer. If you used Rand as fertilizer you’d simply with a field of poisoned, twisted plants that will eat you if you get too close.

172 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 2:09:22pm

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

And let’s not forget the ‘Stand With Rand’ Flip Flops Sandals!

And waaay overpriced for a $1 pair of flip flops.

Although I did pay $6 for the Munchkin’s Spiderman ones. At least they had a little strap around the ankle. : )

173 Kragar  Apr 9, 2015 2:09:23pm

re: #168 Lidane

He’s also charging $1,000 for a signed pocket-sized copy of the Constitution.

I remarked on that yesterday

174 lawhawk  Apr 9, 2015 2:10:04pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

Saw a meme about how Obama has gutted the military, and that US readiness was worse than the Russians.

Except that it has no basis in reality.

The Russians are running lots of drills because it is only way to keep them occupied and ignoring fact that the rest of the country is going through a recession from which it is unable to pull out on its own. Low oil prices are killing its cash reserves.

In fact, US spends more than the next eight countries combined (that would include both Russia and China, plus Japan, Germany, France, Saudi Arabia, UK, and India).

175 wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2015 2:10:36pm

re: #171 Romantic Heretic

At least shit can be used as fertilizer. If you used Rand as fertilizer you’d simply with a field of poisoned, twisted plants that will eat you if you get too close.

Not if you compost him, add some manure and stuff, toss monthly…

176 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 2:11:00pm

re: #173 Kragar

I remarked on that yesterday

Heh.

I got a free one from the Dems a few years ago. It’s in my desk somewhere, and small enough that RP couldn’t get his oversized signature on the front.

177 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 9, 2015 2:12:48pm

About to get ready for work at the Pizza Hut, I just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone for the support and the conversations regarding my Orthopraxy project. It’s been very helpful hearing what people think and gratifying to get support from people here.

Thanks!

littlegreenfootballs.com

178 Justanotherhuman  Apr 9, 2015 2:13:52pm

re: #177 William Barnett-Lewis

About to get ready for work at the Pizza Hut, I just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone for the support and the conversations regarding my Orthopraxy project. It’s been very helpful hearing what people think and gratifying to get support from people here.

Thanks!

littlegreenfootballs.com

You’re a good man, William. : )

179 Kragar  Apr 9, 2015 2:16:39pm
180 goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2015 2:20:08pm

re: #146 #FergusonFireside

Seriously, Apple addressed this potential directly in their design spec at least five or six years ago, maybe even before that. The little blue LED notification light next to the camera is wired in series with the power bus that feeds that camera’s CCD chip. Making it physically impossible to turn one on without turning on the other, blocking any hacker from taking over the camera and videoing you without you being given an indication that it’s happening.

181 thedopefishlives  Apr 9, 2015 2:20:58pm

re: #180 goddamnedfrank

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Seriously, Apple addressed this potential directly in their design spec at least five or six years ago, maybe even before that. The little blue LED notification light next to the camera is wired in series with the power bus that feeds that camera’s CCD chip. Making it physically impossible to turn one on without turning on the other, blocking any hacker from taking over the camera and videoing you without you being given an indication that it’s happening.

But the ebil NSA is capable of hacking the hardware! Haven’t you seen ANY spy movies?

Evening Lizardim.

182 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 2:21:06pm

re: #180 goddamnedfrank

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Seriously, Apple addressed this potential directly in their design spec at least five or six years ago, maybe even before that. The little blue LED notification light next to the camera is wired in series with the power bus that feeds that camera’s CCD chip. Making it physically impossible to turn one on without turning on the other, blocking any hacker from taking over the camera and videoing you without you being given an indication that it’s happening.

but, but, but NSA!!11!!

183 Kragar  Apr 9, 2015 2:22:17pm

re: #180 goddamnedfrank

Sure, that is what they said, but…

184 wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2015 2:23:22pm

re: #179 Kragar

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Reported and blocked.

185 thedopefishlives  Apr 9, 2015 2:23:44pm

re: #183 Kragar

Sure, that is what they said, but…

That’s why Apple made all their devices impossible to disassemble; that way, no one could open one up and figure out that they are littered with backdoors for the NSA!!!!1!11

186 b_sharp  Apr 9, 2015 2:24:24pm

re: #181 thedopefishlives

But the ebil NSA is capable of hacking the hardware! Haven’t you seen ANY spy movies?

Evening Lizardim.

I saw it on the new CSI so it must be true.

What a horrible show.

187 lawhawk  Apr 9, 2015 2:25:02pm

re: #180 goddamnedfrank

Considering how few of the Homeland Security briefings he attended (confirmed attendance at 5 of 73), I’d say that it’s likely he simply is pulling things from his butt (or his buddy Alex Jones’ ass).

188 thedopefishlives  Apr 9, 2015 2:25:06pm

re: #186 b_sharp

I saw it on the new CSI so it must be true.

What a horrible show.

If I had a nickel for every time I wanted to throw something at the screen and yell, “IT DOESN’T WORK LIKE THAT!!!!” I’d be a millionaire.

189 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 2:28:41pm

wut???

190 b_sharp  Apr 9, 2015 2:30:58pm

re: #188 thedopefishlives

If I had a nickel for every time I wanted to throw something at the screen and yell, “IT DOESN’T WORK LIKE THAT!!!!” I’d be a millionaire.

V watches it. I can’t make it past half way.
Even Arquette’s acting is bad.

191 Kragar  Apr 9, 2015 2:32:21pm
192 b_sharp  Apr 9, 2015 2:32:46pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

wut???

[Embedded content]

I’m sure the real reason was for driving a Mercedes while off-white.

193 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 2:34:08pm

re: #191 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Rand better be careful in Iowa, they like deep-frying anything on a stick.

194 Lidane  Apr 9, 2015 2:36:51pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rand better be careful in Iowa, they like deep-frying anything on a stick.

Yes, but in Texas we’ve raised deep frying random shit into an art form.

It’s going to be fun once the more mainstream candidates like Bush start declaring. The clown car will be in full swing.

195 thedopefishlives  Apr 9, 2015 2:37:23pm

re: #194 Lidane

Yes, but in Texas we’ve raised deep frying random shit into an art form.

It’s going to be fun once the more mainstream candidates like Bush start declaring. The clown car will be in full swing.

All aboard the FAIL TRAIN!

197 Lidane  Apr 9, 2015 2:40:38pm

re: #195 thedopefishlives

All aboard the FAIL TRAIN!

Related:

I really hope the GOP continues down the path of marginalizing everyone who they don’t like. It’s going to be hilarious watching their eventual nominee having to disavow all this bullshit later.

198 Dr. Matt  Apr 9, 2015 2:42:07pm
re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dashcam video shows that Slager originally stopped Scott for his “third brake light” being out

Brake (or headlamp) lights are great excuses for LEOs to pull over people and see if they can find a bigger fish to fry (i.e., lack of insurance, warrants, drugs, guns, etc.). I was once pulled over in Brevard County for an “inoperable license plate light”….except the light did work, it was just covered in road grime. Even after I wiped it off, he still gave me a ticket. Dick

199 EPR-radar  Apr 9, 2015 2:42:10pm

re: #197 Lidane

Related:

[Embedded content]

I really hope the GOP continues down the path of marginalizing everyone who they don’t like. It’s going to be hilarious watching their eventual nominee having to disavow all this bullshit later.

It’s all good fun, unless whatever abomination the GOP ends up nominating wins in the general election.

200 Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2015 2:42:44pm

My wife watches all that Criminal Minds, CSI shit. Show after show of tied up young women being sexually assaulted. Social engineering and brain washing garbage.

201 DodgerFan1988  Apr 9, 2015 2:43:34pm

Republicans have responded to the video of the cop shooting Walter Scott to death… by introducing a new bill that will make it illegal for citizens to video cops.
crooksandliars.com

202 Lidane  Apr 9, 2015 2:45:22pm

re: #198 Dr. Matt

I was once pulled over in Brevard County for an “inoperable license plate light”….except the light did work, it was just covered in road grime. Even after I wiped it off, he still gave me a ticket. Dick

I got pulled over for that bullshit once. I was driving between Austin and Waco and an obviously bored state trooper pulled me over to tell me that the light bulb over my license plate was burned out. Kept me there for 30 minutes while he ran my license all over the place, interrogated me about where I was going and why, and when it was all said and done I ended up with a warning. Asshole.

203 thedopefishlives  Apr 9, 2015 2:45:33pm

re: #201 DodgerFan1988

Republicans have responded to the video of the cop shooting Walter Scott to death… by introducing a new bill that will make it illegal for citizens to video cops.
crooksandliars.com

Color me surprised. Because God forbid we try to shine a light on cops abusing their power.

204 Romantic Heretic  Apr 9, 2015 2:49:32pm

re: #114 CuriousLurker

That expression on the face of the woman in the middle holding up the crucifix? It makes my temples throb—it’s the exact same expression I used to see on the face of my mother and her born again buddies. *gag*

I assure you that there is no way to reason with them once they’re at that point—they’ve worked themselves up into an emotional religious frenzy that isn’t in any way connected to the reality that the rest of us are living in outside their little group. It’s not “spirituality”, it’s a form of (psychological) pathology.

Okay, I need to back away from this shit before my head explodes.

Later, lizards.

She looks like a drug addict getting her hit. Which as I’ve noted before is just what these wingnuts are, drug addicts.

205 BeachDem  Apr 9, 2015 2:54:25pm

re: #181 thedopefishlives

But the ebil NSA is capable of hacking the hardware! Haven’t you seen ANY spy movies?

Evening Lizardim.

And always remember, and never forget, SHARYL ATTKISSON!!!

206 TedStriker  Apr 9, 2015 2:55:34pm

re: #88 Varek Raith

Heh, Rand is going to get torn to shreds in the primary debates.

And I’ll love every minute of it.

What a fucking prick…

207 b_sharp  Apr 9, 2015 2:55:46pm

re: #202 Lidane

I got pulled over for that bullshit once. I was driving between Austin and Waco and an obviously bored state trooper pulled me over to tell me that the light bulb over my license plate was burned out. Kept me there for 30 minutes while he ran my license all over the place, interrogated me about where I was going and why, and when it was all said and done I ended up with a warning. Asshole.

Had a woman RCMP officer pull me over and try to pick me up.

208 TedStriker  Apr 9, 2015 2:56:36pm

re: #97 Lidane

What could possibly go wrong?

Otherwise known as the “Marked for Death” bill.

209 Romantic Heretic  Apr 9, 2015 2:56:57pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

Such an attitude is also, in my opinion, why so many right wingers and anarchists (I mean libertarians) are so big on abuse (I mean discipline).

You can abuse property. It’s stupid to take a hammer to your car, but neither illegal or unethical.

You cannot take a hammer to a child. That is abuse and it is illegal and unethical.

By making children property they are moved from the second category to the first. So the wingnuts don’t feel bad about taking a hammer, sometimes literally, to a child. The child is ‘owned’ and the owner owes no responsibility to their property.

210 Decatur Deb  Apr 9, 2015 3:09:28pm

re: #199 EPR-radar

It’s all good fun, unless whatever abomination the GOP ends up nominating wins in the general election.

if we let that happen, we deserve the result.

211 TedStriker  Apr 9, 2015 3:15:16pm

re: #119 Lidane

This should go over well:

Well, maybe he can come down here and crash it, since Princess Dumbass of the North Woods canceled her appearance:

WKRN: Sarah Palin cancels appearance at NRA convention

212 BeachDem  Apr 9, 2015 3:36:01pm

re: #211 TedStriker

Well, maybe he can come down here and crash it, since Princess Dumbass of the North Woods canceled her appearance:

WKRN: Sarah Palin cancels appearance at NRA convention

Probably remembered that they don’t pay enough.

213 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2015 4:34:05pm

re: #212 BeachDem

Probably remembered that they don’t pay enough.

Nope, they are allowing attendees to carry guns.
She’s a coward.

214 Lancelot Link  Apr 9, 2015 8:24:00pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

but, but, but NSA!!11!!

It’s not surprising that “Эдвард Сноуден” is a Rand Paul supporter.


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