Live Performance: Greg Holden’s Excellent New Song “Hold on Tight”

Why don’t you hold on tight to what you’ve been handed?
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I first heard of Greg Holden when the TV show “Sons of Anarchy” used his song “The Lost Boy” over their closing credits. His new song is just great, and I’ve been totally unable to get it out of my head since first hearing it. Here’s a live version, so I won’t be the only one with an earworm.

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168 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2015 2:06:29pm

By the way, the word “earworm” is a direct translation of the German “Ohrwurm.” I first heard this very expressive term in the 1990s from a German girlfriend.

Trivia of the day.

2 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 11, 2015 2:12:45pm

VOMIT
latimes.com

3 Great White Snark  Apr 11, 2015 2:15:33pm

Well, I surrender. Gotta take my assembled pc to a pro to see what I did wrong or what new part is not set up right or defective. Can’t even get a single error beep out of a new motherboard. Something fails in POST , no beeps nothing to the monitor. Zip.

4 TedStriker  Apr 11, 2015 2:31:49pm

re: #3 Great White Snark

Well, I surrender. Gotta take my assembled pc to a pro to see what I did wrong or what new part is not set up right or defective. Can’t even get a single error beep out of a new motherboard. Something fails in POST , no beeps nothing to the monitor. Zip.

Anything powering up at all, such as fans?

5 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Apr 11, 2015 2:33:20pm

re: #2 Lord Of The Pies

I think you’re being a little hard on the lady. It has to be an incredible shock to realize that your child did something like that. I don’t know that she can say much different.

6 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 11, 2015 2:38:02pm

re: #5 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I think you’re being a little hard on the lady. It has to be an incredible shock to realize that your child did something like that. I don’t know that she can say much different.

I’m not being hard on Mrs. Slager I’m being hard on the LA Times who thought it would be a swell idea to do a feature article on “her point of view”

7 Great White Snark  Apr 11, 2015 2:39:56pm

re: #4 TedStriker

Fans, DVD, board telltale lights all good. Corsair water cooler running. Rechecked jumper that configures for processor.

8 Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2015 2:43:30pm
9 Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2015 2:44:59pm
10 TedStriker  Apr 11, 2015 2:48:11pm

re: #7 Great White Snark

Fans, DVD, board telltale lights all good. Corsair water cooler running. Rechecked jumper that configures for processor.

Double-check and reseat your expansion cards (particularly the video card), the RAM, and all of your cable connections.

As far as a CPU jumper, I haven’t seen a mobo with something like that in a long time; what board is it?

11 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 2:51:01pm

Hmm. Turkey burgers w/swiss cheese melted on top, sweet onion and avocado.

Who says a sandwich can’t be supper? : )

12 Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2015 2:57:19pm
13 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 3:01:33pm
14 Great White Snark  Apr 11, 2015 3:05:41pm

re: #10 TedStriker

Double-check and reseat your expansion cards (particularly the video card), the RAM, and all of your cable connections.

As far as a CPU jumper, I haven’t seen a mobo with something like that in a long time; what board is it?


Asus X99 Delux

15 goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2015 3:09:44pm

HAHAHA I just bought a used Belgium made Browning Twelvette in fantastic condition. Sweet little semi-automatic 12 gauge that only holds two rounds, innovative lift gate mechanism that immediately chambers the first round as it’s loaded. So light, points and handles like a dream. It’s too bad that this idea didn’t catch on, more isn’t always better.

16 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 3:10:06pm

Coming up shortly:

Live video: President Obama is expected to discuss his effort to establish stronger diplomatic ties with Cuba as well as other issues

nbcnews.com

17 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 11, 2015 3:12:02pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

Pics!

18 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 11, 2015 3:13:24pm

re: #13 Justanotherhuman

[Embedded content]

Assorted wingnuts are claiming it said “Tax the 1%.” Vague about sources, as usual.
Many of the wingnuts are speculating that this is actually a Vince Foster style hit to silence a whistleblower, as though assassins could fake the guy putting a gun to his head in front of dozens of witnesses and multiple video cameras.

19 goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2015 3:15:06pm

re: #17 GlutenFreeJesus

Pics!

It has to stay in the shop for a few weeks ‘cuz it’s a consignment gun, but I DROSed it today. Looks exactly like this.

20 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 3:17:29pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel

Assorted wingnuts are claiming it said “Tax the 1%.” Vague about sources, as usual.
Many of the wingnuts are speculating that this is actually a Vince Foster style hit to silence a whistleblower, as though assassins could fake the guy putting a gun to his head in front of dozens of witnesses and multiple video cameras.

Yeah, I’ve seen those.

21 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 11, 2015 3:18:03pm

The wingnuts who aren’t busy spinning conspiracy theories about the Capitol shooting are going berserk over Obama’s meeting with Castro.
No links are necessary since the necessary derp-sign can be found at any and all RW sites, as well as in the comments at many generic news sources.

22 TedStriker  Apr 11, 2015 3:18:04pm

re: #14 Great White Snark


Asus X99 Delux

Damn, that’s a nice board…

23 ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2015 3:18:45pm

Just watched the video in the last thread. One of the most bizarre confrontations with the police I have ever seen. But it sure does put a hell of a lot of holes into the “blacks just need to learn how to not run, not resist and everything will be okay” thinking. Those folks could have given up 20 seconds after the cops came. It’s all right there in video.

And the one guy grabbed the cops gun(?). Hints of Micheal Brown. Just wow.

24 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 11, 2015 3:20:54pm

re: #20 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, I’ve seen those.

We knew he probably wasn’t an Alex Jones RWNJ or a sovereign citizen since he didn’t shoot anyone else first.

25 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 11, 2015 3:22:45pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Nice find. You’ll have fun with it I’m sure!

26 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 3:23:36pm

re: #24 Shiplord Kirel

We knew he probably wasn’t an Alex Jones RWNJ or a sovereign citizen since he didn’t shoot anyone else first.

The speculation seems to be that he might have been an Occupier. I suppose we’ll learn more later.

If anything, it was a futile, and final, gesture that will change nothing.

27 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 11, 2015 3:24:08pm

re: #23 ObserverArt

If it were a black family, they would have all been mowed down within seconds.

28 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 3:25:49pm

re: #27 GlutenFreeJesus

If it were a black family, they would have all been mowed down within seconds.

If it wre a Black family, they wouldn’t have been allowed to live in the parking lot.

29 #FergusonFireside  Apr 11, 2015 3:25:59pm

re: #2 Lord Of The Pies

VOMIT
latimes.com

Just read that.

He’s oh so tired.

He’s a tired executioner.

30 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 3:26:59pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

By the way, the word “earworm” is a direct translation of the German “Ohrwurm.” I first heard this very expressive term in the 1990s from a German girlfriend.

Trivia of the day.

31 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 3:28:10pm
32 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 3:28:21pm

President Obama is on, but the translator is distracting. Necessary, I suppose.

33 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 3:29:29pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Much better. The MSNBC feed sound was awful w/a translator, also.

34 #FergusonFireside  Apr 11, 2015 3:30:24pm

re: #6 Lord Of The Pies

I’m not being hard on Mrs. Slager I’m being hard on the LA Times who thought it would be a swell idea to do a feature article on “her point of view”

Exactly. It’s police privilege that their side is even mentioned.

No one interviews the family of a dude charged with murder.

Bullshit.

35 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 3:33:06pm

Pres Obama says he believes the relationships between the US and the Americas is the best it’s been in decades.

My President. : )

36 ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2015 3:33:31pm

Greg Holden “Hold on Tight” - Nice tune Charles!

It has a nice ‘Irish’ feel to it in parts and he has a great voice. I read he is British now living in New York. Influences.

37 b.d.  Apr 11, 2015 3:36:16pm

All the troglodyte GOP presidential hopefuls will line up to rill the clock back to a dead end stalemate regarding Cuba and the American public will be happy with that.

38 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 3:37:39pm

Who does this? The child fell 10-12 ft, causing the injuries because he was “dangled” over the fence.

2-year-old boy injured after falling into Cleveland zoo cheetah exhibit; injuries not caused by cheetahs, zoo official says - @fox8news
read more on fox8.com

It could have been a lot worse.

39 ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2015 3:38:04pm

President Barack Obama. Lame Duck term, out shakin’ it up.

Clap, clap.

40 Great White Snark  Apr 11, 2015 3:38:10pm

re: #22 TedStriker

Damn, that’s a nice board…

Well only when it works. But we will see whats wrong. Everything is under warranty so it’s about patience. I hope to expand over time-GPU, more RAM etc.

41 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 3:38:58pm

The US has a chance to positively influence Cuba through economic and cultural means. Seems like both sides are ready for this (wingnuts excluded).

42 HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2015 3:39:34pm

re: #37 b.d.

All the troglodyte GOP presidential hopefuls will line up to rill the clock back to a dead end stalemate regarding Cuba and the American public will be happy with that.

I am really looking forward to hearing from the party that gave us Iran-Contra how this latest with Cuba means we’re emboldening dictators. Really the right has no room at all to complain about the Cuba deal and frankly I’m sick of Cuban-American politicos from both parties like Mendenez, Cruz, and Rubio acting like the Castros are the worst tyrants ever. That’s not to say I have a lot of love for the Castros but the Cuban American lobby needs to stop acting like they’re the only ethnic group that has fled a tyrannical dictatorship. And don’t get me started on the conservatives that decried the Castro regime for years but were happy to actually give arms, military advice, etc to the Argentine junta and Pinochet in CHile.

43 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 3:39:41pm

re: #38 Justanotherhuman

Who does this? The child fell 10-12 ft, causing the injuries because he was “dangled” over the fence.

Michael Jackson.

44 HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2015 3:40:05pm

re: #41 Nyet

The US has a chance to positively influence Cuba through economic and cultural means. Seems like both sides are ready for this (wingnuts excluded).

It’s well over due. The embargo was a Cold War relic.

45 BeachDem  Apr 11, 2015 3:40:06pm

re: #27 GlutenFreeJesus

If it were a black family, they would have all been mowed down within seconds.

And if it were the Palins, they’d have just jumped into their Hummer limo and driven off into the sunset.

46 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 11, 2015 3:40:34pm

buena vista social club

i wonder what other wonders of cuban proto salsa would fall out and grace our ears if the cuber culture could flow freely

47 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 3:40:52pm

Cuba’s regime is relatively much more benevolent than your friends Saudis.

48 HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2015 3:41:42pm

re: #47 Nyet

Cuba’s regime is relatively much more benevolent than your friends Saudis.

or that favorite of corporate America, the PRC.

49 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 3:41:50pm

And no, human rights violations should not be overlooked, but maybe it’s a way to improve this situation too.

50 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 3:42:12pm

Woo! Pres Obama just mentioned McCain dissing vet John Kerry and he and other Rs telling others not to trust US govt.

51 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 3:42:58pm

Maybe less anti-US paranoia = less journalists/opposition figures in jail.

52 HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2015 3:43:22pm

re: #50 Justanotherhuman

Woo! Pres Obama just mentioned McCain dissing vet John Kerry and he and other Rs telling others not to trust US govt.

Glad to see that. I lost a lot of respect for McCain in 2004 when he stayed pretty quiet with the attacks on McCain’s service record. Contrast that with Kerry himself who stood up for McCain when he got attacked when he first ran for president in 2000.

53 Great White Snark  Apr 11, 2015 3:43:25pm

re: #49 Nyet

And no, human rights violations should not be overlooked, but maybe it’s a way to improve this situation too.

To renew a phrase from long ago. “Constructive engagement”.

54 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 3:43:40pm

re: #49 Nyet

And no, human rights violations should not be overlooked, but maybe it’s a way to improve this situation too.

Looking at the current state of human rights affairs in the USA, the holier-than-than attitude of the “PATRIOTS!1!” here is nauseating when they spout off about other countries.

55 b.d.  Apr 11, 2015 3:44:30pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

I am really looking forward to hearing from the party that gave us Iran-Contra how this latest with Cuba means we’re emboldening dictators. Really the right has no room at all to complain about the Cuba deal and frankly I’m sick of Cuban-American politicos from both parties like Mendenez, Cruz, and Rubio acting like the Castros are the worst tyrants ever. That’s not to say I have a lot of love for the Castros but the Cuban American lobby needs to stop acting like they’re the only ethnic group that has fled a tyrannical dictatorship. And don’t get me started on the conservatives that decried the Castro regime for years but were happy to actually give arms, military advice, etc to the Argentine junta and Pinochet in CHile.

It’s nothing but leftover butthurt over the US “losing” Cuba and nothing to do with communism or the politics of that island. China and worse get love and MFN trading status from the US but we grab the fainting couch over Cuba?

56 HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2015 3:45:07pm

re: #55 b.d.

It’s nothing but leftover butthurt over the US “losing” Cuba and nothing to do with communism or the politics of that island. China and worse get love and MFN trading status from the US but we grab the fainting couch over Cuba?

Yeah it’s a load of shit.

57 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 3:45:19pm

re: #55 b.d.

It’s nothing but leftover butthurt over the US “losing” Cuba and nothing to do with communism or the politics of that island. China and worse get love and MFN trading status from the US but we grab the fainting couch over Cuba?

It’s bullshit. Kudos to Obama for calling bullshit.

58 HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2015 3:45:38pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looking at the current state of human rights affairs in the USA, the holier-than-than attitude of the “PATRIOTS!1!” here is nauseating when they spout off about other countries.

I mean for fuck sake, we’re talking about American wingnuts who venerate Pinochet simply because he was a free marketer.

59 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 3:45:46pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

or that favorite of corporate America, the PRC.

Or Uzbekistan.

60 Dark_Falcon  Apr 11, 2015 3:48:02pm

re: #26 Justanotherhuman

The speculation seems to be that he might have been an Occupier. I suppose we’ll learn more later.

If anything, it was a futile, and final, gesture that will change nothing.

It changed a few people’s lives, in that such a public suicide is bound to traumatize some of the people who had the misfortune to witness it.

Such an act strikes me as a nastier and more final version of a troll posting a comment bemoaning how bad the blog they post on has become then flouncing to the exit. It’s a “look-at-me!” form of exit.

61 HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2015 3:48:02pm

re: #59 Nyet

Or Uzbekistan.

yep. Really all the embargo and refusal to do relations with Cuba was a simple refusal to admit that the Communists succeeded 90 miles away from our shores. I’d argue that the embargo was the best propaganda weapon the regime could have asked for to use against the U.S.

62 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 3:48:51pm

I’m old enough to remember the Batista regime and the revolution. Thus, another family claim to fame:
The night Castro succeeded, my father was one of the very first US journalists to get an interview with him.
My father just picked up the phone, called, and talked to Castro.

63 Great White Snark  Apr 11, 2015 3:51:43pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m old enough to remember the Batista regime and the revolution. Thus, another family claim to fame:
The night Castro succeeded, my father was one of the very first US journalists to get an interview with him.
My father just picked up the phone, called, and talked to Castro.

That’s pretty cool. Right place, right time.

64 #FergusonFireside  Apr 11, 2015 3:51:57pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looking at the current state of human rights affairs in the USA, the holier-than-than attitude of the “PATRIOTS!1!” here is nauseating when they spout off about other countries.

When you systemically kill and hold a group of people down, you are no different. Just craftier.

The world sees this.

65 TedStriker  Apr 11, 2015 3:52:38pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m old enough to remember the Batista regime and the revolution. Thus, another family claim to fame:
The night Castro succeeded, my father was one of the very first US journalists to get an interview with him.
My father just picked up the phone, called, and talked to Castro.

Cool.

66 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 3:53:07pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s one other thing people tend to forget, overlook or not know - Castro did not destroy some flourishing democracy.

67 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 3:54:26pm

re: #63 Great White Snark

That’s pretty cool. Right place, right time.

Pretty amazing that it was just that easy.
I was in second grade at the time and he came home very late that night so pumped up about it.
Probably was the highest point of his life as a journalist.

68 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 3:54:41pm

Heck, Teddy should ask his daddy about how he was tortured by Batista’s thugs and thereafter propagandized for Castro in Rotary clubs.

69 Varek Raith  Apr 11, 2015 3:55:22pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

It has to stay in the shop for a few weeks ‘cuz it’s a consignment gun, but I DROSed it today. Looks exactly like this.

[Embedded content]

Wabbit or duck season?

70 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 3:57:15pm

re: #66 Nyet

It’s one other thing people tend to forget, overlook or not know - Castro did not destroy some flourishing democracy.

Exactly. What he killed was a grossly corrupt regime propped up by a hugely corrupt capitalist society.
What he replaced it with is an entirely different argument.
Those who were at the bottom of either regime society probably didn’t notice much of a difference.

71 Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2015 3:59:43pm

Anyone know what type of bird this is?

72 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 4:00:40pm

What I’ve noticed over these many decades is that many of the Cuban-Americans are quite loud in their hated of Castro is because they lost the gravy life they had under Batista.
That’s a pesky detail that many people refuse to acknowledge.

73 De Kolta Chair  Apr 11, 2015 4:01:12pm

Just watched the Tom Cruise sci-fi flick Edge of Tomorrow, which I liked a lot more than I expected to. Although for the first 3/4 they stuck pretty firmly to Newton’s Third Law (for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction blah blah blah), after 3/4 of the way in they unsurprisingly totally ditched that for Hollywood’s First Law (for every action flick, there are teenage boys with pockets to be picked blah blah blah).

But what the hay, I checked it out from the library, so no loss. One thumb up.

74 Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2015 4:01:22pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

yep. Really all the embargo and refusal to do relations with Cuba was a simple refusal to admit that the Communists succeeded 90 miles away from our shores. I’d argue that the embargo was the best propaganda weapon the regime could have asked for to use against the U.S.

The embargo’s sort of our little temper tantrum over first the fall of the bastard we had in power (Batista), and then our failure to woo Castro into being a figurehead for the corporations that had gleefully run things under the old regime.

75 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 4:01:28pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Anyone know what type of bird this is?

Juvenile sandpiper?

76 Dark_Falcon  Apr 11, 2015 4:02:09pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

Exactly. What he killed was a grossly corrupt regime propped up by a hugely corrupt capitalist society.
What he replaced it with is an entirely different argument.
Those who were at the bottom of either regime society probably didn’t notice much of a difference.

They did notice, I’m sure, since under Castro the organs of state repression became a good deal more efficient.

And its worth remembering how many people fled Cuba rather than remain under Castro.

The Bastista regime was rotten, but what followed really was worse. Fidel and Raul Castro are not heroes. They’re assholes, its just that when they came to power they were Moscow’s assholes.

77 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 4:02:39pm

re: #66 Nyet

It’s one other thing people tend to forget, overlook or not know - Castro did not destroy some flourishing democracy.

It was a kleptocracy and Batista and others in the govt got rich from payoffs from the Mob who pretty much got their way and controlled the gambling and hotel industries. Wasn’t surprising the Castros, Guevara and their little “army” took over.

I was an 18 yr old, pregnant with my first and living in Key West when it happened, and there didn’t appear to be a lot of concern there, even with a Naval base—the Cuban expats were flooding into Miami at the time.

78 Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2015 4:03:00pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

Don’t think so - sandpipers have a much thinner beak.

79 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 4:03:52pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Don’t think so - sandpipers have a much thinner beak.

Yeah, the beak looks stout.

80 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 4:05:07pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

They did notice, I’m sure, since under Castro the organs of state repression became a good deal more efficient.

And its worth remembering how many people fled Cuba rather than remain under Castro.

The Bastista regime was rotten, but what followed really was worse. Fidel and Raul Castro are not heroes. They’re assholes, its just that when they came to power they were Moscow’s assholes.

LOL, Moscow. REALLY???

81 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 4:06:23pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

They’re assholes alright. But today’s Cuba is not the Cuba of the 1950s.

82 Dark_Falcon  Apr 11, 2015 4:06:33pm

...

83 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 4:06:48pm
84 goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2015 4:07:52pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

Not funny.

85 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 4:08:44pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

Better edit.

86 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 4:09:22pm
87 Dark_Falcon  Apr 11, 2015 4:09:28pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, Moscow. REALLY???

Really, really. It’s not like the USSR gave them those SA-2s, T-55s, AKMs, and later BMP-1s and Mi-25s out of generosity. They did it because the Castros and their chief subordinates were communists and wanted to secure a base in the Western Hemisphere.

88 b.d.  Apr 11, 2015 4:09:59pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

Embedded Image

Anyone know what type of bird this is?

I thought it was a Green Heron but the feathers don’t exactly match?

allaboutbirds.org

89 Dark_Falcon  Apr 11, 2015 4:10:02pm

re: #84 goddamnedfrank

re: #85 Nyet

Deleted.

90 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 4:10:32pm

US President Obama at Summit of the America on Iran’s Ali Khamenei’s comments about nuclear deal: ‘Even a guy with the title supreme leader has to be concerned with his own constituents’ - @ZekeJMiller
see original on twitter.com

15m
US President Obama on Cuba at Summit of the Americas: ‘We are not in the business of regime change… Cuba is not a threat to the United States’ - @NBCNews live broadcast
read more on nbcnews.com

91 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 4:10:33pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

Really, really. It’s not like the USSR gave them those SA-2s, T-55s, AKMs, and later BMP-1s and Mi-25s out of generosity. They did it because the Castros and their chief subordinates were communists and wanted to secure a base in the Western Hemisphere.

So, you’re saying Moscow had nothing to do with Cuba before Castro?

92 TedStriker  Apr 11, 2015 4:12:34pm

re: #40 Great White Snark

Well only when it works. But we will see whats wrong. Everything is under warranty so it’s about patience. I hope to expand over time-GPU, more RAM etc.

Well, make sure the CPU overvolt jumper is on disable, hit the Clear CMOS button, disconnect all drives except the boot disk and any cables to any mobo headers that aren’t vital (USB, WiFi), and pull out all cards not necessary to boot.

Basically, strip it down to where the only things connected to/installed on the mobo is the power supply (both the 24-pin ATX connector and the 8-pin ATX12V connector), the CPU and its cooler, one stick of RAM, the video card, your boot hard drive, the leads to your case’s status lights and power switch, and a keyboard and mouse, then try to boot it. If it does, start adding things one at a time until it either stops POSTing or you run out of things to connect/put back in.

93 Dark_Falcon  Apr 11, 2015 4:13:29pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, you’re saying Moscow had nothing to do with Cuba before Castro?

They didn’t sell Cuba that Sherman in #83.

94 Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2015 4:13:42pm
95 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 4:14:04pm

re: #93 Dark_Falcon

They didn’t sell Cuba that Sherman in #83.

And that has to do with Batista, how?

96 ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2015 4:16:47pm

Love it.

Politics. Current Events. Music, Cats, Dogs, Cooking,..Aviary.

Classic Liberal Arts Damn Web Site!

97 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 4:17:09pm
“I believe that there is no country in the world including any and all the countries under colonial domination, where economic colonization, humiliation and exploitation were worse than in Cuba, in part owing to my country’s policies during the Batista regime. I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will even go further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. That is perfectly clear.”

— U.S. President John F. Kennedy, to Jean Daniel, October 24, 1963
98 De Kolta Chair  Apr 11, 2015 4:17:20pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

Juvenile sandpiper?

Sandpipers always remind me of 1965, when my mom took me to the movie of the same name. It was so bad and we hated it so much that “sandpiper” became our inside joke insult about anything we felt was bad and/or boring, and for that mother-son bonding I thank MGM for producing a really awful movie.

99 Dark_Falcon  Apr 11, 2015 4:17:35pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that has to do with Batista, how?

I don’t understand what you’re asking me. The Soviet Union wasn’t involved in Cuba other than some low-level support for Castro until after Fidel’s takeover.

100 De Kolta Chair  Apr 11, 2015 4:17:45pm
101 Dark_Falcon  Apr 11, 2015 4:19:38pm

re: #97 Nyet

Kennedy was very wrong, though: There had been worse places. The Beligan Congo had been much worse, even after it had been formally made the responsibility of the Belgian government and not just the king.

102 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 4:20:58pm

The Communist Party has been active in Cuba, and supported by Moscow, since at least WWI era.
That “Communist” label was flung about by everyone.
Batista was overthrown because of his perceived (if not actual) ties to the richest of the rich upper class and those would be the ones who fled to the USA and those descendents are the ones who still scream the loudest against Castro because he took away their gravy train elitist status and wealth.

103 Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2015 4:22:06pm

So I was standing in line at a supermarket a little while ago, and overheard someone telling his friend that “we never landed on the moon.”

I nearly went all Buzz Aldrin.

104 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 4:22:33pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

I don’t understand what you’re asking me. The Soviet Union wasn’t involved in Cuba other than some low-level support for Castro until after Fidel’s takeover.

You need to look into more history. Moscow has been there a very VERY long time.

105 jaunte  Apr 11, 2015 4:22:37pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Could you tell how old they were?

106 Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2015 4:23:02pm

re: #105 jaunte

Seemed like mid to late 20s.

107 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 4:23:10pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

Really, really. It’s not like the USSR gave them those SA-2s, T-55s, AKMs, and later BMP-1s and Mi-25s out of generosity. They did it because the Castros and their chief subordinates were communists and wanted to secure a base in the Western Hemisphere.

How many CIA led initiatives happened between 1953 and years afterwards, do you think, and how many dictators did the US support during those years?

108 ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2015 4:23:13pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

So I was standing in line at a supermarket a little while ago, and overheard someone telling his friend that “we never landed on the moon.”

I nearly went all Buzz Aldrin.

You’d just be howlin’ at the moon.

109 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 4:23:30pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Seemed like mid to late 20s.

Bet they believe chemtrails, too…

110 jaunte  Apr 11, 2015 4:23:30pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Maybe some Alex Jones listeners.

111 TedStriker  Apr 11, 2015 4:24:08pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

So I was standing in line at a supermarket a little while ago, and overheard someone telling his friend that “we never landed on the moon.”

I nearly went all Buzz Aldrin.

Glad you didn’t, because, unlike Buzz when he gave Bart Sibrel some chin music, you probably would have been taken to the pokey.

112 jaunte  Apr 11, 2015 4:25:41pm

The change in news viewing habits over the last 30 years has helped widen the spread of a lot of odd false ideas into the population.

113 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 4:25:54pm

re: #111 TedStriker

Glad you didn’t, because, unlike Buzz when he gave Bart Sifrel some chin music, you probably would have been taken to the pokey.

Yep. Buzz was directly and personally insulted and thus provoked by Sibrel. Merely mentioning a crazy CT is not a excuse :)

114 b.d.  Apr 11, 2015 4:26:42pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

So I was standing in line at a supermarket a little while ago, and overheard someone telling his friend that “we never landed on the moon.”

I nearly went all Buzz Aldrin.

People are amazingly stupid.

I am dumbfounded that the same people that think that government is incapable of doing anything at right at all are also the same people who think that the US government can stage a very complex hoax (that arguably would has been as hard as going to the moon) upon the people of the world and have all of the people involved stay silent for 50 years.

115 TedStriker  Apr 11, 2015 4:27:06pm

re: #114 b.d.

People are amazingly stupid.

I am dumbfounded that the same people that think that government is incapable of doing anything at right at all are also the same people who think that the US government can stage a very complex hoax (that arguably would has been as hard as going to the moon) upon the people of the world and have all of the people involved stay silent for 50 years.

Inorite?

116 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 4:28:35pm

re: #114 b.d.

and have all of the people involved stay silent for 50 years.

Esp. the Soviets.

117 TedStriker  Apr 11, 2015 4:29:45pm

re: #113 Nyet

Yep. Buzz was directly and personally insulted and thus provoked by Sibrel. Merely mentioning a crazy CT is not a excuse :)

Though a thorough berating of said moron would be more in order, but it might not go over well with the other patrons and employees of the establishment.

118 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 4:30:58pm

re: #114 b.d.

People are amazingly stupid.

I am dumbfounded that the same people that think that government is incapable of doing anything at right at all are also the same people who think that the US government can stage a very complex hoax (that arguably would has been as hard as going to the moon) upon the people of the world and have all of the people involved stay silent for 50 years.

Yeah, esp if it had been done on a Hollywood back lot.

119 b.d.  Apr 11, 2015 4:31:35pm

re: #115 TedStriker

Inorite?

I remember as a child going to a Mexican border town and a vendor was trying to sell my father some bull horns. The vendor took out a lighter and took the flame to the tips to show how they were real. All I could think of was that it sure would be a lot harder to make fake bull horns rather than just get the real thing.

Conspiracy nuts can’t seem to think things through very well.

120 De Kolta Chair  Apr 11, 2015 4:31:56pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Communist Party has been active in Cuba, and supported by Moscow, since at least WWI era.
That “Communist” label was flung about by everyone.
Batista was overthrown because of his perceived (if not actual) ties to the richest of the rich upper class and those would be the ones who fled to the USA and those descendents are the ones who still scream the loudest against Castro because he took away their gravy train elitist status and wealth.

For what it’s worth, around twelve years ago my best gal pal had a boyfriend who was a hip young Havana poet and the leader of the island’s small but feisty “legalize it” movement — “it” being reefer — to which the government took great offense. He held a few small rallies that were always broken up by the authorities. The only thing that kept him out of prison was his mentor was a biggie in the Ministry of Culture.

121 Dark_Falcon  Apr 11, 2015 4:32:36pm

re: #107 Justanotherhuman

How many CIA led initiatives happened between 1953 and years afterwards, do you think, and how many dictators did the US support during those years?

That is irrelevant to the point I was making.

122 Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2015 4:32:49pm
123 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 4:33:03pm

re: #120 De Kolta Chair

Fr what it’s worth, around twelve years ago my best gal pal had a boyfriend who was a hip young Havana poet who was the leader of the island’s small but feisty “legalize it” movement — “it” being reefer — to which the government took great offense. He held a few small rallies that were always broken up by the authorities. The only thing that kept him out of prison was his mentor was a biggie in the Ministry of Culture.

Sounds like the same thing could happen here in the good old USA!
:D

124 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 11, 2015 4:33:36pm

re: #107 Justanotherhuman

How many CIA led initiatives happened between 1953 and years afterwards, do you think, and how many dictators did the US support during those years?

Tito for one.

125 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 4:34:41pm

re: #121 Dark_Falcon

That is irrelevant to the point I was making.

Your point was blaming Moscow for everything Castro.
There was a lot more history there before 1959 that you prefer to ignore.

126 Nyet  Apr 11, 2015 4:35:27pm

Conspiraloons even write songs:

127 Varek Raith  Apr 11, 2015 4:35:41pm

CoughShahofIranCough.

128 b.d.  Apr 11, 2015 4:37:45pm

In case you needed a reason to sleep in tomorrow:

Everything looks fake in that photo and probably is

129 #FergusonFireside  Apr 11, 2015 4:38:06pm
130 b.d.  Apr 11, 2015 4:38:35pm

re: #128 b.d.

In case you needed a reason to sleep in tomorrow:

[Embedded content]

Everything looks fake in that photo and probably is

Tomorrow on Meet The Press, Rand Paul and I fight over a thimble sized coffee cup.

131 Varek Raith  Apr 11, 2015 4:40:12pm

re: #128 b.d.

In case you needed a reason to sleep in tomorrow:

[Embedded content]

Everything looks fake in that photo and probably is

Is that the fake moon landing set???

132 De Kolta Chair  Apr 11, 2015 4:42:39pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sounds like the same thing could happen here in the good old USA!
:D

I guess my point, if I have a point, is that ofttimes it’s about who you know and not what you know, and that all authoritarianist mindsets — left and right — are riddled with rot.

133 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 4:44:02pm

re: #121 Dark_Falcon

That is irrelevant to the point I was making.

You implied by saying that Moscow provided arms and other materiel to the rebels, thereby having some control over the situation and undue influence.

Our own govt actively worked to overthrow regimes they didn’t like, such as that of Mohammad Mossadegh in Iran.

Did you ever wonder how Iran might have turned out otherwise, if the Shah had not ruled as an autocrat with his dreaded SAVAK and Mossadegh, democratically elected, had stayed in place instead of being deposed through Operation Ajax? Khomeini would probably have never come to power and Iran might have evolved into a functioning democracy.

134 BeachDem  Apr 11, 2015 4:49:13pm

Movie dilemma. “The Rain People” is on TCM tonight. Loved that movie WAY back when it came out (early Coppola—with Shirley Knight, James Caan, Robert Duvall).

Do I watch it again and risk disappointment or just remember it fondly as I have for all these years?

Hope that’s the biggest issue I have to deal with this weekend!

135 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Apr 11, 2015 4:49:18pm

I don’t know these guys at all, but they rock:

“any legal tender with the white man in the center”

136 TedStriker  Apr 11, 2015 4:49:19pm

re: #133 Justanotherhuman

You implied by saying that Moscow provided arms and other materiel to the rebels, thereby having some control over the situation and undue influence.

Our own govt actively worked to overthrow regimes they didn’t like, such as that of Mohammad Mossadegh in Iran.

Did you ever wonder how Iran might have turned out otherwise, if the Shah had not ruled as an autocrat with his dreaded SAVAK and Mossadegh, democratically elected, had stayed in place instead of being deposed through Operation Ajax? Khomeini would probably have never come to power and Iran might have evolved into a functioning democracy.

Fucking over generations of Iranians and making enemies for ourselves and Iran’s neighbors, all over the Almighty Oil.

Definitely not Eisenhower and Churchill’s finest hour, by a damn sight.

137 De Kolta Chair  Apr 11, 2015 4:49:41pm

re: #131 Varek Raith

Is that the fake moon landing set???

I’m ready for my close-up now, Mr. Kubrick.
138 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Apr 11, 2015 4:51:15pm

re: #136 TedStriker

Fucking over generations of Iranians and making enemies for ourselves and Iran’s neighbors, all over the Almighty Oil.

Definitely not Eisenhower and Churchill’s finest hour, by a damn sight.

I always said that gas costs more than the price on the pump.

139 b.d.  Apr 11, 2015 4:52:49pm
140 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 4:52:53pm

Chocolate lovers must visit my friend’s blog today about the chocolatier in her village in France.

The photos make me weep…

141 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 4:54:02pm

US President Obama at Summit of the Americas on Hilary Clinton’s anticipated presidential run: ‘She is my friend. I think she would be an excellent president. And I’m not on the ballot. I’m not going to step on her lines’ - @ZekeJMiller
see original on twitter.com

142 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 11, 2015 4:54:39pm

he’s just a random paul in a universe of all possible pauls

143 ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2015 4:55:06pm

re: #137 De Kolta Chair

Image: I’m ready for my close-up, Mr. Kubrick.

Kubrick was great because at heart he was a photographer. Every shot mattered to him. Also got him labeled difficult, etc. But the framing of his shots are achieved like he was shooting stills.

144 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 11, 2015 4:57:52pm

I AM SO OUTRAGED BY THIS APPEASEMENT OF CUBAN COMMhey those cuban girls are cute mebbe i could have a lot of fun down there hubba hubba

145 retired cynic  Apr 11, 2015 4:58:47pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chocolate lovers must visit my friend’s blog today about the chocolatier in her village in France.

The photos make me weep…

I hadn’t looked at her blog in a long time. AAAH! Chocolate!

146 De Kolta Chair  Apr 11, 2015 4:58:49pm
Laika, a mixed-breed dog, was the first living being in orbit. She was launched on the Soviet Union’s Sputnik 2 mission in November 1957.

The canines are in on it! As a cat person, I’m not at all surprised.

147 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 11, 2015 5:00:57pm

re: #136 TedStriker

Fucking over generations of Iranians and making enemies for ourselves and Iran’s neighbors, all over the Almighty Oil.

Definitely not Esienhower and Churchill’s finest hour, by a damn sight.

Eisenhower learned a hard lesson out of this episode, which occurred early in his administration, but he did learn. In 1956, the British tried to hoodwink him again with their attack on Egypt in concert with France and Israel. He refused to bite, and joined the Soviets in demanding that the aggressor/conspirators withdraw.

148 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 5:01:34pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chocolate lovers must visit my friend’s blog today about the chocolatier in her village in France.

The photos make me weep…

Delish! Makes me want to bake some coconut macaroons. No, I don’t use condensed milk (yuck!) in them, either, just whipped-stiff egg whites, coconut, a little sugar, vanilla. You can dip the bottoms in melted chocolate, too. : )

149 ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2015 5:02:06pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chocolate lovers must visit my friend’s blog today about the chocolatier in her village in France.

The photos make me weep…

That almost needs some kind of a NSFW rating. Its food porn.

/

150 De Kolta Chair  Apr 11, 2015 5:02:32pm
151 PhillyPretzel  Apr 11, 2015 5:03:33pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yum. Now I have a serious craving for some chocolate.

152 Kilroy01  Apr 11, 2015 5:04:16pm

re: #146 De Kolta Chair

French Cats in SPACE>>>>

Félicette,
the space cat
… and Félix,
who didn’t exist

The stuff you find out now just by looking.

153 Decatur Deb  Apr 11, 2015 5:06:00pm

re: #99 Dark_Falcon

I don’t understand what you’re asking me. The Soviet Union wasn’t involved in Cuba other than some low-level support for Castro until after Fidel’s takeover.

In photos of the period of struggle Fidel C is usually carrying an M1 carbine or a nondescript shotgun. We were supplying him one way or another.

154 b.d.  Apr 11, 2015 5:06:01pm

re: #146 De Kolta Chair

Image: Laika, a mixed-breed dog, was the first living being in orbit. She was launched on the Soviet Union’s Sputnik 2 mission in November 1957.The canines are in on it! As a cat person, I’m not at all surprised.

I read a really neat deal about the Soviet stray dogs that were used in their space program, I’ll look again for it.

Meanwhile:

155 Kilroy01  Apr 11, 2015 5:06:11pm

re: #152 Kilroy01

156 b.d.  Apr 11, 2015 5:07:49pm

re: #155 Kilroy01

Embedded Image

Regrets, I’ve had a few.
157 De Kolta Chair  Apr 11, 2015 5:15:30pm

re: #143 ObserverArt

Kubrick was great because at heart he was a photographer. Every shot mattered to him. Also got him labeled difficult, etc. But the framing of his shots are achieved like he was shooting stills.

I totally agree. And I think the main constant with Kubrick was he was always a curious kid from the Bronx with a curious mind. Eyes Wide Shut screenwriter Frederic Raphael gets into that in his superb memoir about working with the maestro, “Eyes Wide Open.”

158 b.d.  Apr 11, 2015 5:15:39pm

re: #154 b.d.

I read a really neat deal about the Soviet stray dogs that were used in their space program, I’ll look again for it.

Meanwhile:

Embedded Image

It was a New York Times book review:

When the Soviet scientists rounded up strays, they sought small, feisty dogs who could withstand the punishing preparation and, they hoped, the rigors of spaceflight. Many dogs died, and even those who lived paid a price. “The lucky ones lived out their days in the laboratory,” Ms. Turkina writes, “where devoted attendants would chew bits of (hard-to-find) sausage before feeding it to the dogs who had lost their teeth in the battle to colonize space.”

The star here, the genuine alpha dog, is Laika (“Barker”), who on Nov. 3, 1957, became the first earthborn creature to reach outer space. She didn’t survive the flight on Sputnik 2, suffocated by heat, but in death became a global phenomenon, canonized as a symbol of patriotic sacrifice.

nytimes.com

Soviet Space Dogs: By Olesya Turkina (translated by Inna Cannon and Lisa Wasserman). 240 pages. Fuel Design & Publishing. $32.95.

159 Justanotherhuman  Apr 11, 2015 5:18:20pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm…

160 De Kolta Chair  Apr 11, 2015 5:19:20pm

re: #159 Justanotherhuman

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm…

Does that mean I should panic? ////

161 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2015 5:22:47pm

re: #160 De Kolta Chair

Does that mean I should panic? ////

Just grab yer towel…

162 #FergusonFireside  Apr 11, 2015 5:23:07pm

re: #151 PhillyPretzel

Yum. Now I have a serious craving for some chocolate.

I bought bag of cuties. I’ve already had 3.

(trying to be good)

163 sagehen  Apr 11, 2015 5:25:13pm

re: #156 b.d.

[Embedded content]

Bartlet: Did you know that hardly any of the guys who landed on the moon are married to the same people they were married to before they went there?
Abbey: What?
Bartlet: I’m just saying, it could have been worse. I could have been an astronaut.
Abbey: You could not have been an astronaut.
Bartlet: I would have been a great astronaut.
Abbey: You’re afraid of heights, speed, fire, and small enclosed spaces.

164 De Kolta Chair  Apr 11, 2015 5:35:14pm
“The day Shane MacGowan becomes Secretary of State is the day I’ll move my tax exempt accounts to the Cayman Islands. Oh wait, I did that 40 years ago? He’s still the Anti-Christ!” — Pat Robertson
165 retired cynic  Apr 11, 2015 5:37:35pm

re: #162 #FergusonFireside

I bought bag of cuties. I’ve already had 3.

(trying to be good)

I ate an apple. Trying to be good.

166 De Kolta Chair  Apr 11, 2015 5:39:06pm

re: #165 retired cynic

I ate an apple. Trying to be good.

Trust me, your kidneys thank you.

167 Amory Blaine  Apr 11, 2015 6:05:49pm

re: #7 Great White Snark

Try pulling the memory out one bank at a time.

168 BeenHereAwhile  Apr 12, 2015 8:21:49am

re: #38 Justanotherhuman

Who does this? The child fell 10-12 ft, causing the injuries because he was “dangled” over the fence.

2-year-old boy injured after falling into Cleveland zoo cheetah exhibit; injuries not caused by cheetahs, zoo official says - @fox8news
read more on fox8.com

It could have been a lot worse.

[…] On September 5, 1977, a 6-year old boy sitting atop the wall surrounding the [Bill Haast] Serpentarium’s alligator and crocodile pit fell into the pit and was grabbed by a 12-foot crocodile that lunged ten feet and grabbed the boy. The boy’s father and another man, Nicolas Caulineau, heroically jumped into the pit and straddled the crocodile. Nonetheless, the boy, who was battered and submerged, was killed.[…]

en.m.wikipedia.org


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