Video: Hillary Clinton’s Campaign Announcement

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BREAKING NEWS!

Well actually, not that much of a surprise; but here’s Hillary’s official announcement video, and it’s pretty well done.

Reince Priebus obviously had his statement ready to go; the usual.

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182 comments
1 BigPapa  Apr 12, 2015 12:22:16pm

Hey Look: Scandal Things! ->

2 prairiefire  Apr 12, 2015 12:22:56pm

Here we go!!!!!

3 Great White Snark  Apr 12, 2015 12:22:59pm

Hey looks like she is starting just like I wished for downstairs. Heh. Cool.

4 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 12:23:00pm
5 Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2015 12:23:23pm

The commercial included: Gays, the Working Class, Latinos, Single Moms, College Grads, Black Parents, etc. In other words, every voting bloc the GOP hates.

6 ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2015 12:24:57pm

re: #4 Kragar

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Looks like you found the deep derp goldmine Twitter hashtag Kragar.

7 Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2015 12:25:08pm

When the video started I thought I was seeing one of those pre-roll advertisements for life insurance or detergent. I looked for the close button.

8 Belafon  Apr 12, 2015 12:25:22pm

re: #4 Kragar

That gives me a good idea for Rand’s campaign: “Vote for me to end the Paul political dynasty. No more failures in Washington.”

9 BigPapa  Apr 12, 2015 12:25:31pm

(Any GOP Candidate)2016:

Vote for me because Hillary

You go boys. Have at that shit.

10 BigPapa  Apr 12, 2015 12:26:29pm
11 Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2015 12:27:06pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

When the video started I thought I was seeing one of those pre-roll advertisements for life insurance or detergent. I looked for the close button.

Ditto. I was waiting for the, “you can skip this ad in 10 seconds link”.

12 Great White Snark  Apr 12, 2015 12:30:11pm

re: #10 BigPapa

Onion looks like lemon tastes today

13 Maxwell Not So Smart  Apr 12, 2015 12:30:41pm

Still surprises me this all starts a year and a half before the event. Of the candidates I’ve seen I’d say Hillary is the best in the pack so far.

14 ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2015 12:30:48pm

Well, we are in it now.

Rubio possibly tomorrow right?

Be still my beating heart.

Be calm my quizzical brain.

15 Targetpractice  Apr 12, 2015 12:31:34pm

Does the GOP really want to go down this path? Which candidate is more trustworthy? Because if so, they’re starting at a severe disadvantage.

16 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 12:32:43pm
17 jaunte  Apr 12, 2015 12:32:44pm

Rrreince:

I’m thinking the debate will be “lower taxes” vs. “less taxes” vs. “flat taxes.”

18 BigPapa  Apr 12, 2015 12:33:46pm

I’m voting Camacho.

19 jaunte  Apr 12, 2015 12:34:41pm

re: #4 Kragar

“Ron Paul wasn’t a dynasty, he was a failure”

For 22 years in Congress.

20 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 12:35:27pm
21 Maxwell Not So Smart  Apr 12, 2015 12:37:36pm

I hope we’ll see that guy from Pappa John’s again. He was pretty funny.

22 TedStriker  Apr 12, 2015 12:37:47pm

re: #18 BigPapa

I’m voting Camacho.

23 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 12:38:24pm
24 Targetpractice  Apr 12, 2015 12:38:48pm

As always, I’m voting for the Cthulhu/Dagon ticket. Why choose the lesser evil?

25 makeitstop  Apr 12, 2015 12:38:58pm

re: #17 jaunte

Diverse set of candidates…

Luap Dnar
Ted Cruz
Scott Walker
Jeb Bush

What…different shades of white?

26 Alyosha  Apr 12, 2015 12:39:14pm

Are your political contributions regulations loose enough to allow foreign donations coz I’d literally pay to see that level of trolling in the general :D

27 BeachDem  Apr 12, 2015 12:40:27pm

Reince: Republicans have a strong and diverse set of candidate who will engage…

in as few debates as possible in order to shield the public from their batshit crazy rhetoric.

28 TedStriker  Apr 12, 2015 12:40:39pm

re: #25 makeitstop

Luap Dnar
Ted Cruz
Scott Walker
Jeb Bush

What…different shades of white?

They’re counting Carson, I’m sure, even though he hasn’t officially declared yet.

29 jaunte  Apr 12, 2015 12:41:26pm

re: #25 makeitstop

Luap Dnar, Martian Aquabuddhist.

Cruz and Rubio, Anglicized Cuban-Hispanic.

Ben Carson, Black Martian.

Jeb Bush, Winner.

30 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 12:41:30pm

re: #24 Targetpractice

As always, I’m voting for the Cthulhu/Dagon ticket. Why choose the lesser evil?

Hastur keeps saying he’s going to run, but every time his supporters start chanting his name, everyone at the rally disappears

31 ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2015 12:41:48pm

I know we have some graphic arts types around here. What do you all think of the H> Logo for Hillary?

First thing I thought of…it points right. Interesting. Also, would be a good healthcare related logo. Maybe it will be. Very simple logo and gets away from the American Flag, Eagle stuff. More iconic like for phone app and desktop icons. Not sure overall.

Heh.

32 Belafon  Apr 12, 2015 12:41:56pm

re: #25 makeitstop

The first two have daddy issues, and the last has brother issues. That’s a fairly diverse set of choices.

33 Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2015 12:43:46pm

re: #18 BigPapa

I’m voting Camacho.

Vote #Camacho #2016
34 jaunte  Apr 12, 2015 12:45:10pm

re: #31 ObserverArt

Good that it’s simple but I think the red arrow is a little heavy-handed versus the blue of the H.

35 Dr Lizardo  Apr 12, 2015 12:46:32pm

re: #30 Kragar

Hastur keeps saying he’s going to run, but every time his supporters start chanting his name, everyone at the rally disappears

Hastur. It’s either Hastur or Cthulhu for me.

36 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 12:46:44pm
37 Targetpractice  Apr 12, 2015 12:47:55pm

re: #35 Dr Lizardo

Hastur. It’s either Hastur or Cthulhu for me.

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Trapception!

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38 Dr Lizardo  Apr 12, 2015 12:50:16pm

re: #36 Kragar

Fire. Cleansing, purifying fire.

In other words, the pubbies wanna burn the USA to the ground.

Or something else?

39 jaunte  Apr 12, 2015 12:50:59pm

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

Villagers with torches.

40 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 12:51:23pm

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

…

41 BigPapa  Apr 12, 2015 12:51:24pm

re: #33 Dr. Matt

Shit. I know shit’s bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.

I vote for 1500mL of Brawndo in every cooler.

42 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 12:51:41pm

Very well done ad. And I like the logo.

Can’t wait to get a bumper sticker and set off my neighbors. : )

43 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 12:54:05pm
44 Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2015 12:54:48pm

re: #20 Kragar

Only people who don’t need to run advertisements are calling for everybody to use HTTPS by default. Most ads still won’t work with SSL pages.

Of course that doesn’t apply to political sites, but I find it a little irritating that Soghoian never seems to mention that inconvenient objection to his hobby horse.

45 #FergusonFireside  Apr 12, 2015 12:54:49pm

re: #31 ObserverArt

I know we have some graphic arts types around here. What do you all think of the H> Logo for Hillary?

First thing I thought of…it points right. Interesting. Also, would be a good healthcare related logo. Maybe it will be. Very simple logo and gets away from the American Flag, Eagle stuff. More iconic like for phone app and desktop icons. Not sure overall.

Heh.

I was relieved there wasn’t a flame.

46 blueraven  Apr 12, 2015 12:55:41pm

Well, I like it.

Much better than Cruz’ “Imagine” speech with a captive audience, or Rand Paul’s gibberish.

47 Dr Lizardo  Apr 12, 2015 12:56:09pm

Well, goodnight, Lizards.

48 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 12:58:42pm
49 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 12:58:45pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Only people who don’t need to run advertisements are calling for everybody to use HTTPS by default. Most ads still won’t work with SSL pages.

Of course that doesn’t apply to political sites, but I find it a little irritating that Soghoian never seems to mention that inconvenient objection to his hobby horse.

I think the concern here was that Rand Paul’s donation request page was originally not using a secure connection for financial transactions.

50 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 1:00:02pm
51 jaunte  Apr 12, 2015 1:00:47pm

re: #50 Justanotherhuman

The logo looks better without the type in it.

52 lostlakehiker  Apr 12, 2015 1:00:56pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

Does the GOP really want to go down this path? Which candidate is more trustworthy? Because if so, they’re starting at a severe disadvantage.

Rose Law. Cattlegate. Travelgate. And it goes on from there.

You cannot get the stain of having worked at the Rose law firm out. You cannot ever explain how you beat odds of trillions to one against, to have a string of winning day-trades in cattle futures, a business about which Hillary never knew anything. You cannot escape the odium of having tried to get people punished on frameup evidence, just because it would be convenient to you to have them out of the way.

Hillary is utterly unfit for any office of trust in this country. Far less, for the presidency.

Anybody but Hillary. Anybody, please.

53 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 1:02:10pm

Very nice campaign site. Easy to navigate.

hillaryclinton.com

54 Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2015 1:02:45pm

re: #49 Kragar

I think the concern here was that Rand Paul’s donation request page was originally not using a secure connection for financial transactions.

I know, but I’ve seen Soghoian tweet about this before and say everybody should be running their sites in HTTPS mode by default, which is just not feasible for anyone who needs to run advertisements. He never acknowledges that.

55 blueraven  Apr 12, 2015 1:03:29pm
56 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 1:03:45pm

re: #52 lostlakehiker

So, which loser are you going to vote for?

57 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 1:03:49pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

I know, but I’ve seen Soghoian tweet about this before and say everybody should be running their sites in HTTPS mode by default, which is just not feasible for anyone who needs to run advertisements. He never acknowledges that.

Ah, didn’t realize it was someone flogging a dead horse. I was thinking it was just the one incident.

58 BigPapa  Apr 12, 2015 1:04:29pm

re: #52 lostlakehiker

Anybody but Hillary. Anybody, please.

Welcome to the SplodeyDome.

59 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 12, 2015 1:04:35pm

re: #52 lostlakehiker

Compared to the fascist’s puppet Bush, she’s an angel.

No more Republican presidents.

Never. Again.

60 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 1:05:02pm

Good move, also.

hillaryclinton.com

61 BigPapa  Apr 12, 2015 1:05:02pm

Proof that AM Radio works.

62 Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2015 1:05:09pm

re: #53 Justanotherhuman

Very nice campaign site. Easy to navigate.

hillaryclinton.com

FRAUD!!! IT HAS LAYERS AND DIFFERENT PIXEL SIZES!!!

63 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 1:05:17pm

re: #52 lostlakehiker

So, which homophobic, women-hating science denier do you have in mind?

64 Belafon  Apr 12, 2015 1:05:18pm

re: #48 Justanotherhuman

So, she’ll be running for president, and the Republicans will be running against her. Even though I will have no problem voting for her, she’s looking even better.

65 Targetpractice  Apr 12, 2015 1:06:26pm

re: #52 lostlakehiker

How about Jeb Bush, who used family connections to help a friend who is still a fugitive to this day for committing the worst case of Medicare fraud in that program’s history? Or Scott Walker, who has seen six compatriots end up doing time behind bars?

66 Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2015 1:06:43pm

What’s more - I don’t think most advertisers will ever start making their ads useable with HTTPS, because websites that run under SSL don’t provide the kind of metrics and server/OS information that they rely on to track users.

The people calling for the whole web to run under SSL are living in a dream world. It’s not going to happen.

67 Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2015 1:06:48pm

re: #52 lostlakehiker

Hillary is utterly unfit for any office of trust in this country. Far less, for the presidency.

Anybody but Hillary. Anybody, please.

And yet she was an outstanding Senator and SoS.

68 blueraven  Apr 12, 2015 1:07:11pm

re: #52 lostlakehiker

Rose Law. Cattlegate. Travelgate. And it goes on from there.

You cannot get the stain of having worked at the Rose law firm out. You cannot ever explain how you beat odds of trillions to one against, to have a string of winning day-trades in cattle futures, a business about which Hillary never knew anything. You cannot escape the odium of having tried to get people punished on frameup evidence, just because it would be convenient to you to have them out of the way.

Hillary is utterly unfit for any office of trust in this country. Far less, for the presidency.

Anybody but Hillary. Anybody, please.

Dude, calm down and go campaign for one of the losers.

69 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 1:07:44pm

“Los Americanos necesitan un campeón.
Yo deseo ser ese campeón.” — Hillary Rodham Clinton

70 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 1:07:54pm

All I’m gonna say is: Go Hillz!
Oh, and it will be exciting to see the first female US President.

71 Belafon  Apr 12, 2015 1:08:01pm

I also read, via DK, that she’s getting Robby Mook, McAuliffe’s campaign manager, to be hers.

72 Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2015 1:08:44pm

I’ll take one Hillary Clinton over 1000s of any one of the GOP Klown Kar Kandidates.

73 Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2015 1:08:45pm

re: #71 Belafon

I also read, via DK, that she’s getting Robby Mook, McAuliffe’s campaign manager, to be hers.

His name is “Mook?” That’s… unfortunate.

74 Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2015 1:09:19pm
75 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 1:09:44pm
76 andres  Apr 12, 2015 1:10:50pm

re: #60 Justanotherhuman

Good move, also.

hillaryclinton.com

And excellent translation to boot!

77 PhillyPretzel  Apr 12, 2015 1:10:53pm

re: #70 Nyet

Yes it will. We might actually get close to other nations who have had females in positions of power like Israel and England.

78 BeachDem  Apr 12, 2015 1:11:02pm

re: #42 Justanotherhuman

Very well done ad. And I like the logo.

Can’t wait to get a bumper sticker and set off my neighbors. : )

And word is they’re all real people, not actors.

79 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 1:11:25pm

Mook is widely known as Robby, not Robert, and at 35, he’s still boyish—handsome and clean-shaven with close-cropped brown hair. His usual uniform consists of chinos and bland dress shirts rolled up to the elbows. He couldn’t be more different from, say, James Carville, the loudmouth Ragin’ Cajun who advised Bill Clinton’s first presidential bid and now makes a living as a consultant and TV commentator. Mook rarely appears in news stories or on TV. He did not respond to repeated interview requests. He has no Facebook page. He has a Twitter account but never tweets and has forgotten the password. Mook, who will be the first openly gay manager of a major presidential campaign, is largely unknown beyond the insular world of Democratic staffers but well liked within it. In addition to the email listserv, his loyal following—the Mook Mafia—plans yearly reunions, during which they return to a state where they once operated for a weekend of bar-hopping mixed with volunteering for a local campaign.

dailykos.com

80 BigPapa  Apr 12, 2015 1:11:50pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

His name is “Mook?” That’s… unfortunate.

Not for Breitbart. Editors at Breitbart are all ‘Hey! Guys! Getta load of this!’

81 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 1:14:12pm

I’m getting worked up, knowing that there will be a female president before I kick the bucket. : )

82 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 1:18:57pm

We expected less from this idiot?

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, on Clinton candidacy: ‘Hillary Clinton represents the failed policies of the past and there’s going to be a very clear choice to make in 2016. Does America want a third Obama term or are we ready for strong conservative leadership to make America great again?’
read more on youtube.com

83 Maddies Mom  Apr 12, 2015 1:19:02pm

Ima vote for her ELEVENTY times just to piss off the pubs!!!!!

84 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 1:19:25pm
85 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 1:20:00pm

re: #82 Justanotherhuman

Does America want a 3d Obama term?

Yup.

86 BeachDem  Apr 12, 2015 1:20:20pm

Anyone on the left toying with thoughts of staying home or voting third party in 2016 should consider that, on election day 2016:

Scalia will be 80
Kennedy will be 80
Ginsburg will be 83
Breyer will be 78

That. Is. All.

87 KiTA  Apr 12, 2015 1:22:36pm

Gay marriage reference right in the middle of the video. The Republithugs are going to have a sad over that.

I like how low key it was. Just mentioned offhand like that, like it isn’t a big deal. Because in 2015, it shouldn’t be.

88 Kragar  Apr 12, 2015 1:23:25pm
89 Maxwell Not So Smart  Apr 12, 2015 1:23:44pm
90 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 12, 2015 1:24:06pm

re: #86 BeachDem

Anyone on the left toying with thoughts of staying home or voting third party in 2016 should consider that, on election day 2016:

Scalia will be 80
Kennedy will be 80
Ginsburg will be 83
Breyer will be 78

That. Is. All.

And Clinton’s chances of getting anyone to the left of Attila the Hun through a Republican Congress will be?

91 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 1:25:16pm

re: #90 Higgs Boson’s Mate

And Clinton’s chances of getting anyone to the left of Attila the Hun through a Republican Congress will be?

Dems have a chance of winning some seats in 2016, too. Might be coattails on Hillary, but who cares?

92 Targetpractice  Apr 12, 2015 1:26:56pm

re: #90 Higgs Boson’s Mate

And Clinton’s chances of getting anyone to the left of Attila the Hun through a Republican Congress will be?

Keep in mind that the Class of 2010 will be up for reelection next year as well, and the Republicans will be defending more Senate seats than Democrats will. So a Hillary first term could mean working with a Dem-majority Senate again.

93 blueraven  Apr 12, 2015 1:29:14pm

re: #90 Higgs Boson’s Mate

And Clinton’s chances of getting anyone to the left of Attila the Hun through a Republican Congress will be?

I would say chances are pretty good.

94 worldknot  Apr 12, 2015 1:32:37pm

re: #31 ObserverArt

FedEx 2016

95 BeachDem  Apr 12, 2015 1:33:17pm

re: #90 Higgs Boson’s Mate

And Clinton’s chances of getting anyone to the left of Attila the Hun through a Republican Congress will be?

100% better than if we have a (shudder) President Cruz, Paul, Walker etc.

96 BigPapa  Apr 12, 2015 1:49:13pm

I just told my wife Hillary announced. She said ‘Yah!’ and clapped her hands together.

Sorry Camacho.

97 Belafon  Apr 12, 2015 1:51:43pm

My wife wants a bumper sticker.

98 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 1:51:44pm

Germanwings plane aborts takeoff after bomb threat

theguardian.com

99 BigPapa  Apr 12, 2015 1:53:43pm

I think it’s time for a woman president. She’s not perfect but she’s definitely qualified and experienced.

And she’s not batshit nuts.

100 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 12, 2015 1:54:27pm

And Chuck is classy as ever:

101 BigPapa  Apr 12, 2015 1:55:34pm

If a GOP candidate had a winning run at cattle futures he’d be celebrated as a hero, a cunning businessman.

102 retired cynic  Apr 12, 2015 1:58:49pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Chuck is classy as ever:

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GRRRRR

103 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 12, 2015 1:59:18pm

It’s not surprising that Reince Priebus would focus on “decades” of assorted “scandals” and other unproven allegations. He knows that the RWNJs of the base have notably long if defective memories.
A case in point is this freeper post for the anniversary of FDR’s death in 1945. New Deal Derangement Syndrome is still very strong with this mob.

I read the account of a US navy ship then at sea:

When they got the news of FDR’s death via radio, the entire crew of the ship exploded with raucous cheering and deliriously happy laughter.

Really amazing.

(To anyone who knows anything about that period, or about the Navy for that matter, there is not a snowball’s chance in hell that this is true.)

He should have died at the hands of Giuseppe Zangara.
America would be a better place today.

(Zangara was the assassin who shot at then president elect FDR in Miami in 1933. FDR was not hit but Chicago mayor Anton Cermak was killed and 4 others wounded.)

“Why would Hillary pick this date to announce her candidacy? Another death in the Democrat party?”
“If she waited until next weekend, her announcement would go unnoticed by her closest supporters due to celebrations of the Waco slaughter and preparations for Lenin’s birthday.”

To these people Whitewater is a current issue while Benghazi is happening as we speak.

104 #FergusonFireside  Apr 12, 2015 1:59:42pm

Oh lawd

105 Targetpractice  Apr 12, 2015 2:00:39pm

re: #101 BigPapa

If a GOP candidate had a winning run at cattle futures he’d be celebrated as a hero, a cunning businessman.

Don’t have to go too far to see examples of that. Look at Romney, who the GOP tried to play up as this great businessman when Bain Capital acted as little more than a chop shop, making money whether it turned companies into successes or it broke them up and sold off the parts for profit.

106 b.d.  Apr 12, 2015 2:02:15pm

re: #104 #FergusonFireside

Oh lawd

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Wait. Wikileaks is bitching about somebody stealing something?

107 Skip Intro  Apr 12, 2015 2:03:09pm

re: #84 Kragar

Bill Kristol floats Dick Cheney as “the most promising” of possible 2016 GOP candidates

Because Sauron isn’t available.

108 Zamb  Apr 12, 2015 2:04:41pm

re: #104 #FergusonFireside

Yes because an arrow pointing forward was first pioneered by wikileaks, in fact I think they even created the entire concept of arrows.

109 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 12, 2015 2:04:46pm

It was amazing to see an actual political spot with not one shred of Fear, hostility, hate, or of anyone or any group. Pretty well done if you ask me, although a little bland.

But I’ll take bland compared to the fear-based, race-baiting horror show the Republicans are trotting out.

110 Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2015 2:05:21pm
111 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:07:43pm
112 Targetpractice  Apr 12, 2015 2:08:37pm

re: #111 Nyet

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Thing is, the far right are pretty much dictating their party and its platform this year. The far left, not so much.

113 Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2015 2:08:46pm
114 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:10:12pm

re: #112 Targetpractice

Thing is, the far right are pretty much dictating their party and its platform this year. The far left, not so much.

Good point. The Dem party is the reasonable party.

115 BeachDem  Apr 12, 2015 2:13:32pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Chuck is classy as ever:

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And wiki-leaks is butthurt because they are the only ones ever to use a red arrow for anything anywhere.

Late on the draw, but it’s so idiotic, it deserves a repeat!

116 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:14:19pm

PS: And as far as I’m concerned, Clinton’s position on Putin is eminently reasonable. And if it pisses off far left loons like Nader - all the better.

117 ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2015 2:16:16pm

re: #84 Kragar

[Kragar @Kragar_LGF
Follow
Bill Kristol floats Dick Cheney as “the most promising” of possible 2016 GOP candidates rawstory.com …
4:19 PM - 12 Apr 2015]

Uh, note fake, right?

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118 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 2:16:33pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

Upchuck can go fuck himself. Grrrrrrr!

119 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2015 2:17:02pm

re: #115 BeachDem

And wiki-leaks is butthurt because they are the only ones ever to use a red arrow for anything anywhere.

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Late on the draw, but it’s so idiotic, it deserves a repeat!

I’m thinking Wikileaks is just using this as a way to ride the coattails and catch some attention due to the Clinton hashtag. Just a marketing gimmick.

120 Belafon  Apr 12, 2015 2:17:15pm

re: #115 BeachDem

Clinton doesn’t cut the end of her arrow off either. The only thing they really have in common is they are red and arrow shaped.

121 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2015 2:18:22pm

re: #120 Belafon

If you look at the small Wikileaks logo on the tweet, it has the full arrow. Apparently, someone did a shoddy cropping job.

122 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:19:29pm

This not-a-parody is brought to you by a man who actually believes that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are authentic:

…

123 BeachDem  Apr 12, 2015 2:20:37pm

re: #120 Belafon

Clinton doesn’t cut the end of her arrow off either. The only thing they really have in common is they are red and arrow shaped.

But it’s RED!! And it’s an ARROW!! And we’re INNOVATIVE!! And, and…

124 Belafon  Apr 12, 2015 2:20:42pm

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

If you look at the small Wikileaks logo on the tweet, it has the full arrow. Apparently, someone did a shoddy cropping job.

OK.

125 ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2015 2:22:10pm

FedEx. Yeah.

Hillary Delivers!

126 Maxwell Not So Smart  Apr 12, 2015 2:22:29pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

If that c word is Classy they would be correct. One thing I would say without hesitation is Hillary definitely is Classy with a capital C.

127 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:23:23pm

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

If you look at the small Wikileaks logo on the tweet, it has the full arrow. Apparently, someone did a shoddy cropping job.

Not a crop job, twitter crops automatically (click on the image), but a very good point nevertheless. A cut off arrow would be a bit more specific than just a red arrow. As such, the complaint is even more laughable.

128 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 2:23:48pm

Wikileaks has stripes in its arrow.

None in Hillary’s arrow.

They’ve got a lot of nerve alleging theft.

129 BeachDem  Apr 12, 2015 2:25:29pm

Does upchuck really think that calling somebody a bitch is cogent political commentary? Such a remarkable AWARD-WINNING JOURNALIST.

I wonder who will rake in more cash today—Hillary, on her campaign announcement or upchuck, on his big campaign (which, at one point he said was complete and just waiting for the right monetizing moment, then later said he needs many $$ to hire “private eyes” and analysts, etc.) and which he now says has begun but needs many $$ to continue. He’s such a credible person.

130 Tigger2  Apr 12, 2015 2:27:14pm

re: #122 Nyet

This not-a-parody is brought to you by a man who actually believes that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are authentic:

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Oh look the Teabaggers on a march I must have missed seeing that protest on TV.

131 TedStriker  Apr 12, 2015 2:31:22pm

re: #129 BeachDem

Does upchuck really think that calling somebody a bitch is cogent political commentary? Such a remarkable AWARD-WINNING JOURNALIST.

I wonder who will rake in more cash today—Hillary, on her campaign announcement or upchuck, on his big campaign (which, at one point he said was complete and just waiting for the right monetizing moment, then later said he needs many $$ to hire “private eyes” and analysts, etc.) and which he now says has begun but needs many $$ to continue. He’s such a credible person.

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132 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:32:06pm

The proportions are different, the color is red, but of a different shade. The form is different (stripes). They point in the same direction, but a “forward” arrow can point only from left to right, horizontally or diagonally. Not much wiggle room. The arrow fits the H design elegantly, while the Wikileaks moronic logo it looks like some mosaic of unrelated fragments.

133 Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2015 2:33:03pm

re: #129 BeachDem

Does upchuck really think that calling somebody a bitch is cogent political commentary?

This is why Chuck’s never going to amount to anything - he’s poisonous, even on the right. He’s literally sabotaging his own career every time he tweets something vile like this.

134 #FergusonFireside  Apr 12, 2015 2:33:17pm
135 Romantic Heretic  Apr 12, 2015 2:33:46pm

As a Canadian I don’t have a poker in this fire, but I think Hillary is too old to be President.

Look at Obama. You can see how the job has worn at him. Grey long before his time and you can often see how weary he is.

I don’t think Hillary, tough as she is, is up to that.

136 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:35:22pm

re: #135 Romantic Heretic

As a Canadian I don’t have a poker in this fire

Well, actually™ we all do. It’s the US we’re talking about.

137 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2015 2:35:31pm

re: #122 Nyet

“And they still through him in Prison”.

I see a mistake that bad on a trailer and I’m not going near the movie.

138 BeachDem  Apr 12, 2015 2:37:34pm
139 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2015 2:37:43pm

re: #129 BeachDem

Does upchuck really think that calling somebody a bitch is cogent political commentary? Such a remarkable AWARD-WINNING JOURNALIST.

I wonder who will rake in more cash today—Hillary, on her campaign announcement or upchuck, on his big campaign (which, at one point he said was complete and just waiting for the right monetizing moment, then later said he needs many $$ to hire “private eyes” and analysts, etc.) and which he now says has begun but needs many $$ to continue. He’s such a credible person.

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Again with the “We”. Who the hell is “We”??? Notice how he never gives any credit to anyone supposedly part of “We”?

140 Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2015 2:37:44pm
141 b_sharp  Apr 12, 2015 2:39:44pm

re: #136 Nyet

Well, actuallyTM we all do. It’s the US we’re talking about.

True.

142 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:39:53pm

re: #135 Romantic Heretic

As a Canadian I don’t have a poker in this fire, but I think Hillary is too old to be President.

Look at Obama. You can see how the job has worn at him. Grey long before his time and you can often see how weary he is.

I don’t think Hillary, tough as she is, is up to that.

If I told you that Golda Meir became Premier at 71, would you reconsider?

143 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2015 2:40:06pm

re: #136 Nyet

Well, actuallyTM we all do. It’s the US we’re talking about.

Agreed. Canada’s fate is closely tied to the U.S. , though maybe not as much as it used to be.

I have concerns with Clinton’s age. She also carries a lot of political baggage (and no I’m not talking about any of the Benghazi bullshit).

I’d like to see a younger candidate with less of a political history but I’m not sure there’s many on the horizon.

144 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:41:01pm

re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg

“less of a political history” = “but she’s inexperienced!”

145 ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2015 2:42:56pm

re: #135 Romantic Heretic

As a Canadian I don’t have a poker in this fire, but I think Hillary is too old to be President.

Look at Obama. You can see how the job has worn at him. Grey long before his time and you can often see how weary he is.

I don’t think Hillary, tough as she is, is up to that.

I think she is stronger than you might think. And that is not to deny your feelings because many feel as you.

Also, she has been through quite a lot of political attacks her whole career. And she is still in it. She doesn’t have to be president. She wants to be president.

146 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2015 2:43:11pm

Even if HIlary wins. I predict a high chance congress will remain divided. Clinton as President with a GOP Senate and House would put her in the same position as Obama, having to veto all the stuff the GOP tries to pass and put up with their continued efforts to undermine the Presidency.

Mitt Romney might have lost in 2012, but the Dems didn’t pick up enough momentum to keep the legislature (in fact they LOST ground to the GOP in both the House and Senate). The Dems haven’t made siginificant progress in either chamber since 2008. In fact, since Obama was elected they’ve been slowly giving up seats in both. I’m not sure how strongly I feel about the odds of 2016 being able to break that streak.

The thinking was all the far right stuff the GOP did would hurt them in 2012 and 2014, but that didn’t happen.

147 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:44:36pm

On average, women live longer than men. Yet somehow in the minds of many they “age” much faster.

148 Belafon  Apr 12, 2015 2:46:11pm

re: #146 Eclectic Cyborg

Even if HIlary wins. I predict a high chance congress will remain divided. Clinton as President with a GOP Senate and House would put her in the same position as Obama, having to veto all the stuff the GOP tries to pass and put up with their continued efforts to undermine the Presidency.

Mitt Romney might have lost in 2012, but the Dems didn’t pick up enough momentum to keep the legislature (in fact they LOST ground to the GOP in both the House and Senate).

Because of the gerrymandering the Republicans pulled in 2010. The Democrats will probably regain the senate in 2016. The House is going to require some significant votes, or the districts in states get challenged and redrawn.

149 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:48:09pm

Clinton is merely 67. This would have been a non-issue for any male candidate.

150 BeachDem  Apr 12, 2015 2:48:54pm

re: #146 Eclectic Cyborg

Even if HIlary wins. I predict a high chance congress will remain divided. Clinton as President with a GOP Senate and House would put her in the same position as Obama, having to veto all the stuff the GOP tries to pass and put up with their continued efforts to undermine the Presidency.

Mitt Romney might have lost in 2012, but the Dems didn’t pick up enough momentum to keep the legislature (in fact they LOST ground to the GOP in both the House and Senate).

All true, but think of the horror that would be a GOP President with a GOP Senate and House. It would be one giant colossal fuck you to most everyone—

Privatize Social Security—check
End Obamacare—check
Go to war with just about any country we can find on a map—check
Eliminate inheritance taxes, capital gains taxes—check
Lower corporate taxes—check
Eliminate any and all regulations on businesses—check
Increase fossil fuel use/eliminate any alternative energy programs—check
Eliminate any and all safety net programs—check
Get to name some REALLY right wing judges to the Supreme Court—check, check, check and check

151 ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2015 2:49:56pm

re: #150 BeachDem

All true, but think of the horror that would be a GOP President with a GOP Senate and House. It would be one giant colossal fuck you to most everyone—

Privatize Social Security—check
End Obamacare—check
Go to war with just about any country we can find on a map—check
Eliminate inheritance taxes, capital gains taxes—check
Lower corporate taxes—check
Eliminate any and all regulations on businesses—check
Increase fossil fuel use/eliminate any alternative energy programs—check
Eliminate any and all safety net programs—check
Get to name some REALLY right wing judges to the Supreme Court—check, check, check and check

We’d be, like, all checked out!

/

152 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2015 2:51:25pm

Perhaps a GOP President, Senate and House for one term would convince a lot of people never to vote GOP again>

153 Belafon  Apr 12, 2015 2:52:36pm

re: #152 Eclectic Cyborg

Perhaps a GOP President, Senate and House for one term would convince a lot of people never to vote GOP again>

Like the first 6 years of Bush? Only if we’re looking at another great recession.

154 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 2:52:37pm

re: #149 Nyet

Clinton is merely 67. This would have been a non-issue for any male candidate.

Yeah, nobody thought McCain, at 71, was “too old”.

155 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:53:21pm

re: #152 Eclectic Cyborg

Perhaps a GOP President, Senate and House for one term would convince a lot of people never to vote GOP again>

If there is a GOP everything, there’s a good chance nobody will ever vote again.

half-/

156 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:54:10pm

re: #154 Justanotherhuman

I did think his age was relevant vis a vis his VP choice. But not by itself.

157 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 2:54:51pm

St. Ronnie was 69 when he first became prez, and that was back in the “olden days”. He also was the oldest ever elected.

158 b.d.  Apr 12, 2015 2:57:32pm

Over the past 4 weeks HBO has been showing all of the old Game of Thrones on Sunday. I hadn’t watched any of them before and I’m about caught up, at least know what is going on for the season 5 opener tonight.

It is a pretty awesome show.

159 Decatur Deb  Apr 12, 2015 2:58:04pm

re: #69 Justanotherhuman

“Los Americanos necesitan un campeón.
Yo deseo ser ese campeón.” — Hillary Rodham Clinton

Si, se puede una vez mas.

160 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 2:58:55pm

re: #158 b.d.

It is a pretty awesome show.

I haven’t watched GoT at all. I take it you recommend it.

161 Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2015 2:59:46pm
162 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 3:00:46pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

Watch out for the Holocaust memes.

163 BeachDem  Apr 12, 2015 3:02:22pm

re: #152 Eclectic Cyborg

Perhaps a GOP President, Senate and House for one term would convince a lot of people never to vote GOP again>

I’ve seen that movie—didn’t like the ending.

164 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 12, 2015 3:03:42pm

Good afternoon Lizards!

Sitting here in a hotel room in Norfolk, VA. Drove over this morning from Richmond, toured a battleship, then spent a chunk of the afternoon walking around the Norfolk Botanical Gardens*.

Off to dinner shortly. Tomorrow’s plan is a return to Philadelphia, but avoiding interstates initially by crossing Hampton Roads and going up the Maryland eastern shore. See if there are interesting things to photograph and also probably stop and take a beach walk if the weather cooperates.

* - Lots of photos taken. The camellias were in bloom and there was also a winter orchid display in the tropical flower area.

165 b.d.  Apr 12, 2015 3:03:59pm

re: #160 Nyet

I haven’t watched GoT at all. I take it you recommend it.

it is plenty intense but well done in every way

166 ObserverArt  Apr 12, 2015 3:05:30pm

What makes Hillary fun to watch for me is she is really a strong candidate and so she will have some attraction to female Republicans and the wide block of female independent/undecideds. I do not think that is being considered much, but I do believe inside those little voting booth curtains all assumptions will be off.

If they attack her too much, the Karl Rove types face attacking Republican women that might be a bit more vocal about some women’s issues due to Hillary. So, if that forces the hand of the Republicans on women’s issues then it works politically.

But I suspect some of the right’s crazier rhetoric is still going to cost them women’s votes anyway. Hillary will just help draw more.

167 BeachDem  Apr 12, 2015 3:05:40pm

re: #154 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, nobody thought McCain, at 71, was “too old”.

Sarah Palin thought he was just the right age to make her presidential ambitions come true (shudder.)

168 Decatur Deb  Apr 12, 2015 3:07:43pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

Since the idiot showed an executive Gulfstream crashing, they might be an unconscious class warrior.

169 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 3:09:37pm

There are approximately 120+M women over the age of 18 in the US.

Imagine if 60M sent Hillary an average of $25 ea. That’s a war chest of $1.5B.

I don’t think she’s going to be hurting for money.

170 Justanotherhuman  Apr 12, 2015 3:10:42pm

White House on lockdown due to unattended package on north fence line, Secret Service confirms - @KFaulders
end of alert

This is getting too damned frequent for my nerves.

171 Nyet  Apr 12, 2015 3:13:00pm

re: #169 Justanotherhuman

That’s certainly doable. Both Obama and Romney got more than $1 billion.

172 Decatur Deb  Apr 12, 2015 3:14:10pm

re: #169 Justanotherhuman

There are approximately 120+M women over the age of 18 in the US.

Imagine if 60M sent Hillary an average of $25 ea. That’s a war chest of $1.5B.

I don’t think she’s going to be hurting for money.

Even if she’s a mere 67, my 69 year old wife will be registering voters for her on campuses in Florida.

173 Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2015 3:16:47pm

This was nice to hear. (Or read, as the case may be.)

174 b.d.  Apr 12, 2015 3:16:53pm

re: #170 Justanotherhuman

White House on lockdown due to unattended package on north fence line, Secret Service confirms - @KFaulders
end of alert

This is getting too damned frequent for my nerves.

Secret Service is on triple secret probation right now, they aren’t going to let an unauthorized housefly come across the White House grounds.

175 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 12, 2015 3:17:13pm

re: #146 Eclectic Cyborg

the difference is that there a a lot of white women who will side with and support and vote for H Clinton despite the right wing vitriol they constantly hear from their husbands. As it stands now, Obama being black is an automatic enemy of many whites in Red states including women because of engrained, institutionalized racism. That aspect will not be a part of the equation in 2016 and we might see a surprising turnout in voting from swing states in favor of Clinton.

176 Decatur Deb  Apr 12, 2015 3:38:23pm

re: #99 BigPapa

I think it’s time for a woman president. She’s not perfect but she’s definitely qualified and experienced.

And she’s not batshit nuts.

Not Batshit Nuts/2016

177 #FergusonFireside  Apr 12, 2015 3:40:39pm
178 nkdee  Apr 13, 2015 2:59:22am

re: #90 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I can speak for Ohio. Ted Strickland is running against Portman. Portman was 1/47th of Tehran Tom’s “Let Betray America” coalition. Kasich beat him by 2% of the vote in 06. Of course it ALL depends on how the State Democrats support Ted, And the Dems on the State level are proving that the “Party of Stupid” isn’t just a Republican thing.

179 nkdee  Apr 13, 2015 3:43:25am

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

That is similar to FOX “news” when they have their “Some say…” reports. (As in “Some say Obama is a commie, fascist, Kenyan usurper.”) Or the Donald’s “Everybody says…” (As in “Everybody says I should be President”).

180 nkdee  Apr 13, 2015 3:47:24am

re: #149 Nyet

Or St. Ronnie who was about 10 shy of his 70th b-day when he took office. Of course he was a man….a white man….and a Republican so that makes ALL the difference.

181 Saint Stephen  Apr 13, 2015 1:01:23pm

re: #17 jaunte

Don’t forget “less gubmint regulations”

182 Saint Stephen  Apr 13, 2015 1:02:19pm

re: #82 Justanotherhuman

I vote for “third Obama term”


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