LA Times Calls on California Lawmakers to Pass Vaccination Bill Despite Anti-Science Parents

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The Los Angeles Times editorial board is calling out the state legislature for caving in to the demands of the deluded, selfish anti-vaccination movement: California Lawmakers Should Pass the Vaccination Bill.

Anti-vaccination parents showed up last week in Sacramento threatening to leave the public schools en masse, and the Senate Education Committee crumbled like a batch of overbaked cookies. Sen. Richard Pan (D-Sacramento), who has written legislation that would mandate vaccines for almost all public school students, was forced to take back his bill for revision.

“The penalty for not immunizing their kids is you either have to home-school or take your kids out of public schools, and I don’t think that’s a solution to the problem,” committee Chairwoman Carol Liu (D-La Cañada Flintridge) told Pan during last week’s meeting. If that’s so, why does California even bother to have the weak vaccination requirement that’s already on the books? It’s meaningless if the state folds as soon as parents object.

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1 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 21, 2015 2:02:05pm

Bet those same parents keep their dogs’ vaccinations updated.

2 BigPapa  Apr 21, 2015 2:07:20pm

Let them home school. The intellectual isolation will match the social isolation.

3 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 21, 2015 2:07:20pm

When moonbats opposed to Big Pharma and Western Medicine team up with wingnuts opposed to Big Government and Modern Science, we reach a toxic concentration of derp.

4 Justanotherhuman  Apr 21, 2015 2:08:07pm

But of course they should pass that bill.

Otherwise, I’d keep my kids home so they wouldn’t catch cooties.

Let the anti-vaxxers suffer, not the entire school system.

5 Jack Burton  Apr 21, 2015 2:09:23pm
Anti-vaccination parents showed up last week in Sacramento threatening to leave the public schools en masse,

And this is bad why?

6 Great White Snark  Apr 21, 2015 2:12:50pm

Leave public school en masse? Cool smaller class sizes=better education. Good riddance of an infection risk. Sorry kid.
Oh wait they get funded paid per student attending so the tears are really about monies potentially lost. Political theater at its worst.

7 b.d.  Apr 21, 2015 2:13:38pm

This is more important than kids, this is hurting Disney’s bottom line! Something must be done!

//?

8 Justanotherhuman  Apr 21, 2015 2:14:02pm

BTW, the grass around here is so high, we have a mosquito infestation. Now the Munchkin isn’t going to have a place to play except the patio and that’s iffy.

And this county won’t do a thing about it, because I called. In Charlotte, they wouldn’t allow grass to get this high—they’d send out a city crew and charge you for it.

Screw that Clown Car Real Estate Mgmt Co, we’re leaving as soon as our lease is up, maybe before if we find something in the next few weeks. We don’t expect to get our security deposit back anyway because it just seems to be nothing but a money thing for the new owner anyway.

9 Ace-o-aces  Apr 21, 2015 2:15:23pm
10 lawhawk  Apr 21, 2015 2:19:15pm

re: #9 Ace-o-aces

Depends on what you mean by toaster? /Admiral Adama

11 Lidane  Apr 21, 2015 2:19:19pm

Related:

12 freetoken  Apr 21, 2015 2:22:18pm

re: #5 Jack Burton

And this is bad why?

Because the federal government probably pays per head count?

13 Kragar  Apr 21, 2015 2:27:29pm

OK Marvel, you done fucked up this time:

14 Lidane  Apr 21, 2015 2:31:07pm

re: #13 Kragar

It’ll keep the nerds too busy to notice that the new Fantastic Four trailer sucks ass.

15 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 21, 2015 2:31:18pm

Unrelated, but I think some Lizards might get a kick out of the book I found on my bookshelf today.

16 Jack Burton  Apr 21, 2015 2:32:17pm

re: #12 freetoken

Because the federal government probably pays per head count?

For those of us that aren’t state bean-counters, having a public health menace *not* in public schools is worth it.

17 Kragar  Apr 21, 2015 2:32:47pm
18 Justanotherhuman  Apr 21, 2015 2:33:05pm
19 Kragar  Apr 21, 2015 2:33:41pm

re: #14 Lidane

I guarantee it will be in the top 4 Fantastic Four Origin movies ever made.

20 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 21, 2015 2:34:24pm

re: #1 GlutenFreeJesus

Bet those same parents keep their dogs’ vaccinations updated.

i hear if this here bill passes everybody will be required to have their children vaccinated by dogs

21 No Country For Old Haters  Apr 21, 2015 2:36:37pm

re: #5 Jack Burton

And this is bad why?

Because these kids already have a disadvantage being raised by stupid parents. Without school, there’s no hope for them.

22 Justanotherhuman  Apr 21, 2015 2:37:35pm

Lyrid Meteor Shower Peaks Wednesday With ‘Unpredictable’ Show

abcnews.go.com

23 lawhawk  Apr 21, 2015 2:37:56pm

These anti-vaxxers will get people killed from their refusal to vaccinate themselves or their kids.

Allowing communicable diseases that can and should be eradicated to continue to blossom because they refuse to vaccinate themselves borders on the criminal.

There are a lot of people who cannot get vaccinated because of medical reasons (immune compromised as say someone going through chemotherapy and other cancer therapies, infants and toddlers who are not able to be immunized or are too young to be fully protected, and the elderly/infirm whose vaccinations/immunity is waning.

These people are put at risk because someone thinks that their kid shouldn’t be vaccinated or that it’s somehow safer to get measles than to get the vaccination, even though there are thousands of measles deaths annually worldwide. There are serious complications here in the US every year from measles. Ditto for mumps, chicken pox, and every other disease for which a vaccination is available.

Heck, there are now vaccinations that can prevent certain cancers - the HPV vaccine now protects against a bunch of strains of cervical and other related cancers. If you know anyone who has cancer, you know how much EVERY SINGLE ONE WOULD KILL FOR THE ABILITY TO HAVE BEEN VACCINATED SO THEY’D NEVER HAVE TO EXPERIENCE IT. EVER.

Yet, you’ve got people who cast about and claim that the vaccinations will somehow increase promiscuity or other BS, and instead they needlessly expose people to a disease that can be avoided.

Eliminate all but the medical exemption for vaccinations. MS and WV only allow medical exemptions for vaccinations. This should be the national standard. We’re talking about a public health crisis, where a plane ride can expose tens of thousands of people to these diseases (see the Disneyland outbreak with cases reported on the East Coast shortly thereafter traced back to Disneyland).

Fuck the anti-vaxxers.

24 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2015 2:38:16pm
25 Justanotherhuman  Apr 21, 2015 2:45:11pm

re: #23 lawhawk

Yeah, I hate it when states allow people with “religious” or “philosophical” differences about vaccines to not use them for their kids.

And most of those parents probably were vaccinated themselves.

26 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 21, 2015 2:46:53pm

re: #25 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, I hate it when states allow people with “religious” or “philosophical” differences about vaccines to not use them for their kids.

And most of those parents probably were vaccinated themselves.

I would hate to see the following scenario, but it is the only thing that might knock some sense into a lot of heads: Parents desert en masse to private schools which are then hit by a by a measles outbreak.

27 Swift2991  Apr 21, 2015 2:49:15pm

This is a public health law. No exceptions that endanger lives.

Very touching story on Slate a few days ago by a mother whose 1-year-old got the MMR vaccination. He did get one of the more serious side effects, whose name I can’t pronounce or remember, which is quite serious but treatable. Baby fine now. The odds? One in 40,000.

Risk of death or serious incapacity from measles, way worse than that. In the ’20s, 50,000 measles deaths a year. By the ’50s, 5,000 — that decrease was from simple public health and prompt hospitalization if the child got a fever over 104, I believe it was, or got convulsions.

Watched a documentary on VICE a few weeks ago where a genetically modified measles virus is quite effective against at least one form of cancer. Science moves on.

28 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2015 2:56:59pm
29 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2015 2:59:02pm

re: #17 Kragar

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30 wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2015 3:04:53pm
31 #FergusonFireside  Apr 21, 2015 3:05:11pm

re: #30 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

Verrry good artist.

32 wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2015 3:06:48pm

re: #31 #FergusonFireside

Verrry good artist.

Courtroom artists are amazing.

33 Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2015 3:07:28pm
34 Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2015 3:10:15pm
35 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 21, 2015 3:11:05pm
New Toy!

Telephoto lens for the Nikon arrived today.
(Happy dance)

36 wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2015 3:12:09pm
37 Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2015 3:13:22pm

Check out this guy’s timeline. Chuck’s fanboys.

38 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 21, 2015 3:15:56pm

slo nudes day

39 coin operated  Apr 21, 2015 3:17:36pm
The penalty for not immunizing their kids is you either have to home-school or take your kids out of public schools

If you want to participate in polite society, you must play by it’s rules.

40 Justanotherhuman  Apr 21, 2015 3:18:02pm
41 wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2015 3:20:00pm

Good, he’s decided to sue. I wish him luck.

42 Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2015 3:20:39pm

re: #40 Justanotherhuman

[Embedded content]

Look at all those violent blahs!

43 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 21, 2015 3:23:55pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

“We the People Rising” is a group with extensive ties to white

when the white people take over will they force me to eat velveeta?

44 The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2015 3:26:23pm

re: #43 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

when the white people take over will they force me to eat velveeta?

mayonaisse

45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 21, 2015 3:27:16pm

“We the People Rising”

just think - there may come a day when white men are at the head of major corporations and government agencies

46 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 21, 2015 3:28:56pm

re: #44 The Ghost of a Flea

mayonaisse

bastiges!

47 Jack Burton  Apr 21, 2015 3:29:24pm

re: #44 The Ghost of a Flea

mayonaisse

Nope… even worse

Miracle Whip

48 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 21, 2015 3:33:46pm

re: #47 Jack Burton

Nope… even worse

Miracle Whip

it’s called miracle whip because if you eat enough you will see the face of jesus

49 CuriousLurker  Apr 21, 2015 3:34:28pm

Wow, you guys have to watch this. An Iranian woman rejects a suitor; he throws acid in her face as revenge, blinding & disfiguring her. She demands “an eye for an eye” justice from the court. They tell her that since she’s a woman and only “worth half”, she can only demand that he be blinded in one eye. She says “OK,” then proceeds fighting for the right to have acid dropped in the guy’s eye.

She finally wins approval. She goes to the hospital with her family. Her brother is the one who’s supposed to do it for her. Then… watch the video:

Video

Be very, very thankful you were born in the U.S. (despite the fact that I think that kind of stuff is what some of the Christian right would like to return to).

50 thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2015 3:35:37pm

Evening Lizardim.

51 alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Apr 21, 2015 3:37:24pm

Welp, i guess it’s time to get louder. But then what happens? MSM brings in footage from a different state that shows those opposed to the anti-vacc are ‘thugs, bullies and *gasp* liberals)?

Welp, shit. how low(loud) do we go?

52 freetoken  Apr 21, 2015 3:40:02pm

Today feels strange.

53 thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2015 3:40:28pm

re: #52 freetoken

Today feels strange.

Sorry. I’ll show myself out.

54 freetoken  Apr 21, 2015 3:42:38pm

re: #53 thedopefishlives

It’s not you.

It’s the wave-function of the universe.

I think.

55 thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2015 3:44:42pm

re: #54 freetoken

It’s not you.

It’s the wave-function of the universe.

I think.

Have you tried rebooting the machine?

56 freetoken  Apr 21, 2015 3:46:14pm

re: #55 thedopefishlives

Have you tried rebooting the machine?

Well, I did re-launch Chrome which then upgraded to the next version….

57 thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2015 3:48:37pm

re: #56 freetoken

Well, I did re-launch Chrome which then upgraded to the next version….

I find resetting the universe often helps things. Although sometimes it just ends in a fizzle and all life as we know it ceases to exist, which kinda sucks.

58 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2015 3:49:23pm

re: #57 thedopefishlives

I find resetting the universe often helps things. Although sometimes it just ends in a fizzle and all life as we know it ceases to exist, which kinda sucks.

That’s one reason why you need a towel.

59 Timothy Watson  Apr 21, 2015 3:50:05pm

re: #57 thedopefishlives

I find resetting the universe often helps things. Although sometimes it just ends in a fizzle and all life as we know it ceases to exist, which kinda sucks.

Yes, Anubis.

(Stargate SG-1 reference)

60 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 21, 2015 3:51:53pm

re: #57 thedopefishlives

I find resetting the universe often helps things. Although sometimes it just ends in a fizzle and all life as we know it ceases to exist, which kinda sucks.

if one could only reboot one’s life

61 freetoken  Apr 21, 2015 3:53:48pm

The remnant of Portland’s major newspaper publishes the following with no journalistic inquiry:

A Doctor Explains Why Creationism is True, on Sun. 4-26-15

[…]

Rask says that the most common logical error was the fallacy of affirming the consequent. Evolutionary studies are found to actually demonstrate either (1) microevolution, or (2) descriptions of comparative biology. The empiric limits of microevolution are defined. The concept of complementary coevolution is introduced which is the theory’s requirement that at least two genes, called partner genes, evolve nearly simultaneously such that their gene products can interact to perform a function. Because a random change in one gene puts restrictions one how its partner gene can evolve, complementary coevolution would be statistically impossible.

In addition, radioisotope dating techniques are found to be flawed because the formula to determine the half life has no scientific support and conflicts with empirically determined formulae of radioisotopes with short half lives.

[…]

62 Jack Burton  Apr 21, 2015 3:55:57pm

re: #61 freetoken

because the formula to determine the half life has no scientific support

Wait… WUT?

I’m pretty sure any 10th grader in a science class in my day could understand and explain the concept.

63 freetoken  Apr 21, 2015 3:56:16pm

The author of that piece claims to be an atheist, btw. Now, all he’s doing is relating the propaganda that the creationist forwarded to him. I suppose the author think simply restating what someone else claims is good journalism.

Or… perhaps, he’s trying to trap some unsuspecting Christians to come to the “debate”.

64 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2015 3:57:55pm
65 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2015 4:01:27pm
66 freetoken  Apr 21, 2015 4:02:15pm

America is made up of people like this:

Wrestling evolution with faith

[…]

Adams said the theory of evolution shouldn’t be taught as fact because the scientific laws in place are counterproductive.

“There’s certain laws of science, like the law of thermodynamics, which directly contradicts evolution. Evolution is based on the theory of life becoming more complex over time, and energy being created and the big bang. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. And evolution is based on the principle of energy being created and advancing even.”

[…]

67 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2015 4:02:15pm
68 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2015 4:03:11pm
69 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 21, 2015 4:03:37pm

re: #43 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

when the white people take over will they force me to eat velveeta?

and wonder bread.

RBS

70 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 21, 2015 4:04:05pm

re: #66 freetoken

<blockquoteAdams said the theory of evolution shouldn’t be taught as fact because the scientific laws in place are counterproductive.

“There’s certain laws of science, like the law of thermodynamics, which directly contradicts evolution. Evolution is based on the theory of life becoming more complex over time, and energy being created and the big bang. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. And evolution is based on the principle of energy being created and advancing even.”

can we start over but using a dictionary this time?

71 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 21, 2015 4:04:38pm

re: #69 RealityBasedSteve

and wonder bread.

RBS

wonder bread, miracle whip

i sense a pattern here

72 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 21, 2015 4:04:52pm

re: #66 freetoken

America is made up of people like this:

Wrestling evolution with faith

Adams just proved that he never existed.

73 thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2015 4:05:41pm

re: #72 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Adams just proved that he never existed.

And shortly thereafter, vanished in a poof of logic.

74 Justanotherhuman  Apr 21, 2015 4:05:41pm

re: #71 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

wonder bread, miracle whip

i sense a pattern here

With Spam.

75 freetoken  Apr 21, 2015 4:05:57pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

Haven’t you heard? The 2nd Law of thermodynamics disproves your immunization theory.

76 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2015 4:06:53pm

re: #66 freetoken

America is made up of people like this:

Wrestling evolution with faith

When people of faith dare to ask questions and the answer is “It’s God’s Will”, any hope of understanding anything is utterly lost.

77 makeitstop  Apr 21, 2015 4:10:28pm

re: #47 Jack Burton

Nope… even worse

Miracle Whip

Velveeta topped with Miracle Whip.

78 Snarknado!  Apr 21, 2015 4:12:22pm

Back on topic: Pan will reintroduce his bill next week. With an additional clause allowing unvaccinated children to study at home in groups. (Pan is a pediatrician, so he’ll likely be pretty persistent about it.)

79 freetoken  Apr 21, 2015 4:12:54pm

re: #77 makeitstop

Velveeta topped with Miracle Whip.

Deep fried Velveeta topped with Miracle Whip and sprinkled with “Bac’n Pieces”.

80 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2015 4:13:26pm

My surprised face:

81 darthstar  Apr 21, 2015 4:13:37pm

re: #79 freetoken

Deep fried Velveeta topped with Miracle Whip and sprinkled with “Bac’n Pieces”.

That might taste okay on a Ritz - but everything’s good on a Ritz.

82 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2015 4:13:49pm

re: #79 freetoken

Deep fried Velveeta topped with Miracle Whip and sprinkled with “Bac’n Pieces”.

On a STICK!

83 Justanotherhuman  Apr 21, 2015 4:14:02pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

When people of faith dare to ask questions and the answer is “It’s God’s Will”, any hope of understanding anything is utterly lost.

Yeah, one of the Munchkin’s teacher’s assistants, who I like a lot, said to me yesterday when I told her of the impending storm, “I’ll just leave it up to god. Whatever happens, happens.” I thought that was a pretty fatalistic attitude. I didn’t realize she was even religious.

Otherwise, she’s a kind and caring person with the kids, as far as I can tell and not a careless person.

84 Snarknado!  Apr 21, 2015 4:15:19pm

And the library tech services has finally released the new Cherryh Foreigner novel, they sent my hold notification, and it’s now in my hot little hands, so hang tough and I’ll see you all later.

85 Justanotherhuman  Apr 21, 2015 4:16:16pm

re: #79 freetoken

Now you’re onto something. Wasn’t Elvis Presley’s favorite sandwich something like bananas w/mayo on white bread fried in butter?

86 makeitstop  Apr 21, 2015 4:16:19pm

re: #79 freetoken

Deep fried Velveeta topped with Miracle Whip and sprinkled with “Bac’n Pieces”.

With a nice glass of milk to wash it all down.

(Full disclosure: I often enjoy a nice glass of milk. The other stuff? Bleh.)

87 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 21, 2015 4:17:24pm

About 10 years ago my non-profit web archive agreed to participate in a history project sponsored by Liberty University.

That was dumb, I was a wingnut then and I didn’t realize how horrible they really were.

Yesterday I sent them a notice that the foundation is withdrawing from their project and I am resigning from their Board of Trustees and please remove my name and the name of my foundation from all correspondence, letterhead, and promotional materials print and digital.

Well needless to say they are shocked SHOCKED at this sudden breakup and why oh why did I have to be so rude?

Do I owe them an explanation other than “because reasons”

88 freetoken  Apr 21, 2015 4:19:51pm

I’m convinced many Americans do not have a real feeling, much less understanding, of what life was like before vaccinations.

The US had large losses due to measles, and later polio.

This is akin to the lack of appreciation for what really went on in the 18th and 19th century regarding Native Americans and what I do think can be called genocide.

We put the past out of our minds, and sometimes that might work, but in the case of communicable diseases I’m pretty sure it won’t.

89 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2015 4:22:39pm

re: #87 Lord Of The Pies

About 10 years ago my non-profit web archive agreed to participate in a history project sponsored by Liberty University.

That was dumb, I was a wingnut then and I didn’t realize how horrible they really were.

Yesterday I sent them a notice that the foundation is withdrawing from their project and I am resigning from their Board of Trustees and please remove my name and the name of my foundation from all correspondence, letterhead, and promotional materials print and digital.

Well needless to say they are shocked SHOCKED at this sudden breakup and why oh why did I have to be so rude?

Do I owe them an explanation other than “because reasons”

In the words of Ted Cruz at Liberty University recently, just tell them “imagine”…

90 BillinGlendaleCA  Apr 21, 2015 4:22:49pm

re: #88 freetoken

I’m convinced many Americans do not have a real feeling, much less understanding, of what life was like before vaccinations.

The US had large losses due to measles, and later polio.

This is akin to the lack of appreciation for what really went on in the 18th and 19th century regarding Native Americans and what I do think can be called genocide.

We put the past out of our minds, and sometimes that might work, but in the case of communicable diseases I’m pretty sure it won’t.

You’re probably right, I’m in my mid 50’s, so my parents had a vivid memory of those losses and as a teen my next door neighbors were both in wheelchairs due to polio.

91 Justanotherhuman  Apr 21, 2015 4:24:38pm

re: #88 freetoken

I’m convinced many Americans do not have a real feeling, much less understanding, of what life was like before vaccinations.

The US had large losses due to measles, and later polio.

This is akin to the lack of appreciation for what really went on in the 18th and 19th century regarding Native Americans and what I do think can be called genocide.

We put the past out of our minds, and sometimes that might work, but in the case of communicable diseases I’m pretty sure it won’t.

We have mandatory vaccinations here in NC, but I’m going to ask tomorrow if any of the kids in the Munchkin’s class are not vaccinated for any religious reason (which can be an exception here). Then, I will repeat doing that as long as I’m around for future grades. And I will raise a stink about it to get him transferred to a class where all the kids have had the required vaccinations.

92 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2015 4:25:15pm

re: #88 freetoken

My father had polio as a child and suffered post-polio syndrome as an older person.
I am sight and hearing impaired as a result of measles.

Ant-vaxxers need to sit down, shut the fuck up, and listen to those of us who lived through that crap.

93 thedopefishlives  Apr 21, 2015 4:26:53pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

My father had polio as a child and suffered post-polio syndrome as an older person.
I am sight and hearing impaired as a result of measles.

Ant-vaxxers need to sit down, shut the fuck up, and listen to those of us who lived through that crap.

The worst I suffered was the chicken pox as a kid, but that’s because I was fully vaccinated despite my parents’ extreme right-wing ideology. My dad, for all his faults, is staunchly pro-science.

94 Frenchy  Apr 21, 2015 4:27:18pm

re: #66 freetoken

Wow, that is all scientific-sounding. I think I’m convinced.

95 Bubblehead II  Apr 21, 2015 4:47:09pm

re: #84 Snarknado!

And the library tech services has finally released the new Cherryh Foreigner novel, they sent my hold notification, and it’s now in my hot little hands, so hang tough and I’ll see you all later.

Afternoon Lizards.

Just Got my copy of Galileo’s Middle Finger by Alice Dreger today. Have another book I’m currently reading so it will have to wait a couple days. If her writing style is anything like her tweets, it should be a good read. Strange thing is, I have never been that big on non-fiction and am looking forward to reading this book.

96 Bubblehead II  Apr 21, 2015 4:53:46pm

re: #87 Lord Of The Pies

About 10 years ago my non-profit web archive agreed to participate in a history project sponsored by Liberty University.

That was dumb, I was a wingnut then and I didn’t realize how horrible they really were.

Yesterday I sent them a notice that the foundation is withdrawing from their project and I am resigning from their Board of Trustees and please remove my name and the name of my foundation from all correspondence, letterhead, and promotional materials print and digital.

Well needless to say they are shocked SHOCKED at this sudden breakup and why oh why did I have to be so rude?

Do I owe them an explanation other than “because reasons”

Nope, but on the other hand, a list of all the stupid things they support and your foundation don’t, might encourage them to remove you even faster. It might even help if your foundation posts a public notice that you are rescinding your support and why.

Just my 2 cents.

97 Bubblehead II  Apr 21, 2015 4:58:37pm

re: #91 Justanotherhuman

We have mandatory vaccinations here in NC, but I’m going to ask tomorrow if any of the kids in the Munchkin’s class are not vaccinated for any religious reason (which can be an exception here). Then, I will repeat doing that as long as I’m around for future grades. And I will raise a stink about it to get him transferred to a class where all the kids have had the required vaccinations.

Why bother? The kid still has to mingle with the general population at the school. Raise bloody hell until vaccination rates meet the CDC guidelines for all the kids.

98 Bubblehead II  Apr 21, 2015 5:00:41pm

Gee, lucky me. Posting on a dead thread. Heading upstairs

99 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Apr 21, 2015 5:02:58pm

re: #66 freetoken

America is made up of people like this:

Wrestling evolution with faith

I really thought this was going to be some Rick Flair/Hulk Hogan shit.


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How Sigmund Freud Tried to Break and Remake His Fiancée The area in which Martha most urgently needed reeducation, Freud believed, was that of excessive regard for her own family. He had coveted its name before their engagement, but now the very illustriousness of Martha’s connections prompted a worry ...
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Ten Sailors Missing After U.S. Warship, Tanker Collide Near Singapore SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Ten sailors are missing after a U.S. warship collided with an oil tanker east of Singapore before dawn on Monday, tearing a hole beneath the waterline and flooding compartments that include a crew sleeping area, the ...
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Why You Can’t Take a Flag to a National Cemetery Why You Can't Take a Flag to Arlington (or other national veteran cemeteries) Stars and Stripes, reprinting with permission an article from the Washington Post, explains why you cannot take a flag to Arlington National Cemetery (or any other ...
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Another Democrat Starting Trump Impeachment Process Come on guys, get behind the bill. All of us. we should get behind this bill as it emerges as fast as we attacked the BCA. Following Donald Trump’s equivocating of white supremacists and those who oppose them in ...
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How Militias Became the Private Police for White Supremacists Magazine Guns to a protest? Clubs? We can not tolerate anti American militias. The bloody weekend in Charlottesville that began with several hundred chanting white supremacists on a torch-lit march will long be remembered for the searing image of a ...
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Starting in 2018, Police Dogs Injured in the Line of Duty Can Be Transported by EMS to Veterinary Clinics ST. CLAIR COUNTY, IL – Ambulances are for people. It’s always been the law of the land. In Illinois, it'll soon be "almost always". Illinois Governor, Bruce Rauner, signed House Bill 2661, Tuesday. It will allow police dogs to ...
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The New War on Birth Control - Pacific Standard Although it wasn't clear at the time, the attack on Phillips marked the beginning of a new anti-contraception movement—conceived in the U.S., but unfolding in Africa, where women's frustrations with the dearth of safe, effective family planning options are ...
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M83 - Do It, Try It (David Wilson Video) M83 - Do It, Try It video by David Wilson. Following the video's premiere at Sundance Next Fest it is now available to watch online. The track is taken from M83's seventh studio album Junk, available to buy & ...
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Marvel’s the Defenders It’s all coming together. Learn about The Defenders from the stars themselves: Charlie Cox, Krysten Ritter, Mike Colter and Finn Jones. Marvel’s The Defenders premieres globally August 18, 2017, only on Netflix. Watch The Defenders on Netflix: netflix.com SUBSCRIBE: ...
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