Tony Perkins (Who Doesn’t Believe in Evolution) Says Evolution Proves Homosexuality Is Wrong

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As leader of the Family Research Council and an extreme right wing Christian conservative, Tony Perkins is a creationist who thinks evolution is a lie circulated by evil scientists trying to persecute good God-fearing people by forcing them to believe their granddaddies were apes.

But that doesn’t stop him from trying to use evolution as an argument against gay marriage.

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1 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 24, 2015 11:34:22am

No amount of science can alter all those Bible verses, both NT and OT condemning homosexuality.

2 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 24, 2015 11:35:17am

“If you logically game this out, the idea that somehow same-sex marriage or same-sex attraction, homosexuality, could be the advancement of evolution,” he said, “well, it would be the end of the road. It is a dead-end street. You’re certainly not going to reproduce.”

My head exploded three times reading this.

3 Kragar  Apr 24, 2015 11:35:18am

Why does it not surprise me that a bible thumping bigot has no fucking clue as to what he is talking about?

4 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 24, 2015 11:36:14am

Apparently no one has told this clown that homosexuality has been around for thousands of years now and the human race is nowhere near close to dying off due to lack of population (quite the opposite actually).

This isn’t apples to oranges, this is Apples to Steaks.

5 ramex  Apr 24, 2015 11:36:48am

Evolution is a “new” concept. So are radio waves, but unfortunately, that doesn’t stop them from using them to spout their drivel.

6 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 24, 2015 11:37:33am
7 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 11:38:47am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

“If you logically game this out, the idea that somehow same-sex marriage or same-sex attraction, homosexuality, could be the advancement of evolution,” he said, “well, it would be the end of the road. It is a dead-end street. You’re certainly not going to reproduce.”

My head exploded three times reading this.

Because that’s what all gay people and their allies are arguing, that gayness is an evolutionary step forward for the human population and that the intention is to make all people gay in the future.

///

8 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 24, 2015 11:38:52am

Conervative or not it should be able to figure out that everything about our existence including our physical bodies and our planet and universe itself are in a constant state of flux, change and development.

Honestly I have greater respect and admiration for a God who designed a universe to be constantly changing itself and adapting and developing than a God who just made one and said “Yep, I think I’m done.” and left it at that.

9 Kragar  Apr 24, 2015 11:40:17am

Male Homosexuality Study: Gay Men Have Evolutionary Benefit For Their Families, New Research Suggests

For several years, studies led by Andrea Camperio Ciani at the University of Padova in Italy and others have found that mothers and maternal aunts of gay men tend to have significantly more offspring than the maternal relatives of straight men. The results show strong support for the “balancing selection hypothesis,” which is fast becoming the accepted theory of the genetic basis of male homosexuality.

The theory holds that the same genetic factors that induce gayness in males also promote fecundity (high reproductive success) in those males’ female maternal relatives. Through this trade-off, the maternal relatives’ “gay man genes,” though they aren’t expressed as such, tend to get passed to future generations in spite of their tendency to make their male inheritors gay.

While no one knows which genes, exactly, these might be, at least one of them appears to be located on the X chromosome, according to genetic modeling by Camperio Ciani and his colleagues. Males inherit only one X chromosome — the one from their mother — and if it includes the gene that promotes gayness in males and fecundity in females, he is likely to be gay while his mom and her female relatives are likely to have lots of kids. If a daughter inherits that same X-linked gene, she herself may not be gay, but she can pass it on to her sons. [Why Are There Gay Women?]

10 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2015 11:41:22am

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

Conervative or not it should be able to figure out that everything about our existence including our physical bodies and our planet and universe itself are in a constant state of flux, change and development.

Honestly I have greater respect and admiration for a God who designed a universe to be constantly changing itself and adapting and developing than a God who just made one and said “Yep, I think I’m done.” and left it at that.

The people on top want to claim that God put them there, stop pushing.

11 retired cynic  Apr 24, 2015 11:42:29am

Fred Clark, who writes on theological matters on Slacktivist, always calls him The Liar Tony Perkins.

12 jaunte  Apr 24, 2015 11:43:48am

What’s the evolutionary purpose of worrying about someone else’s (presumably non-competing) sex life, Tony?

13 retired cynic  Apr 24, 2015 11:45:23am

re: #9 Kragar

Interesting concept!

14 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 11:48:13am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

“If you logically game this out, the idea that somehow same-sex marriage or same-sex attraction, homosexuality, could be the advancement of evolution,” he said, “well, it would be the end of the road. It is a dead-end street. You’re certainly not going to reproduce.”

My head exploded three times reading this.

This is actually about the worst argument a religious or Christian conservative should try to advance.

In the gospel accounts, towards the end of his ministry Jesus is asked by the Sadducees about the resurrection. Specifically they pose the question of what happens in the resurrection in a case where a man dies without having produced an heir and the widow marries the deceased man’s brother to produce an heir for the original husband, and where this repeats for seven brothers, etc. So the Sadducees ask whose wife this woman will be assuming all the deceased men have been resurrected.

Jesus responds, in part, that in the resurrection, there is no marriage or giving in marriage, that men and women are like the angels (meaning, presumably, that there is no longer any marriage or reproduction, etc, although scholarly interpretations differ, blah blah blah).

There’s not a lot of attention in Christian circles to this passage, I think for obvious reasons. But at a minimum it certainly raises some troubling questions for people who assume that human reproduction is so important it should dictate marriage policy. If at some point the whole reproduction business ends anyway….

15 Justanotherhuman  Apr 24, 2015 11:50:47am

re: #9 Kragar

So, what are lesbians? Chopped liver? Bisexuals? Chopped olives w/pimientos?

16 Kragar  Apr 24, 2015 11:52:39am

re: #15 Justanotherhuman

So, what are lesbians? Chopped liver? Bisexuals? Chopped olives w/pimientos?

They’ve got links and cover that in the article as well.

17 Nyet  Apr 24, 2015 11:53:55am

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

No amount of science can alter all those Bible verses, both NT and OT condemning homosexuality.

True, but as all religion is interpretation, they can be interpreted away.

18 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2015 11:54:11am

Hey, VB, got a Ford question for you if you’re around and can ask somebody there.
MrBWS got a temporary job reassignment and spent yesterday riding around with the guy for whom he’ll be covering.
The truck is a 2013 Ford Super Duty (powerstroke 6.7 liter turbo diesel), which MrBWS really likes. But there’s some sort of annoying audible alert thing that goes off every five minutes (key in ignition or out, it still sounds). It’s not a chime like for headlights or seatbelts, it’s more like a two- or three-tone blurp-blurp. There’s no corresponding visual thing on the dash. He asked everyone in the yard this morning and no one has a clue. I’ve exhausted my google skills (other than a DEF alert, maybe? I have no idea what that is.)
Any ideas? It’s driving him nuts.

19 Lidane  Apr 24, 2015 11:55:13am

These are deeply stupid, incredibly desperate people. They’re scared. They see SCOTUS striking down same-sex marriage bans and sweeping the rest of their backwards, socially regressive views along with it.

Witness:

Steve King introducing legislation to strip the courts — including SCOTUS — of any jurisdiction over marriage cases

Ted Cruz introducing two bills in the Senate: one a Constitutional amendment banning SSM and the other a bill banning the courts from deciding any marriage cases until the Amendment is passed

BTW, Tony Perkins is babbling again:

20 Ace-o-aces  Apr 24, 2015 11:55:39am

re: #17 Nyet

True, but as all religion is interpretation, they can be interpreted away.

Yeah, just like all those verses about rich people not getting into heaven get skipped over….

21 team_fukit  Apr 24, 2015 11:55:57am

Using Perkins logic here, evolution proves that being ugly and stupid is wrong too yet he persists

22 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 24, 2015 11:57:13am

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey, VB, got a Ford question for you if you’re around and can ask somebody there.
MrBWS got a temporary job reassignment and spent yesterday riding around with the guy for whom he’ll be covering.
The truck is a 2013 Ford Super Duty (powerstroke 6.7 liter turbo diesel), which MrBWS really likes. But there’s some sort of annoying audible alert thing that goes off every five minutes (key in ignition or out, it still sounds). It’s not a chime like for headlights or seatbelts, it’s more like a two- or three-tone blurp-blurp. There’s no corresponding visual thing on the dash. He asked everyone in the yard this morning and no one has a clue. I’ve exhausted my google skills (other than a DEF alert, maybe? I have no idea what that is.)
Any ideas? It’s driving him nuts.

I can’t give you an answer off the top of my head but I can ask the Diesel team.

23 Kragar  Apr 24, 2015 11:57:36am

re: #19 Lidane

Nothing says smaller government and states rights like sponsoring a Constitutional Amendment saying States can’t legalize Same Sex Marriage.

24 Khal Wimpo  Apr 24, 2015 11:57:37am

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve exhausted my google skills (other than a DEF alert, maybe? I have no idea what that is.)
Any ideas? It’s driving him nuts.

Is there a dispatch radio system in the truck? Sounds like the kind of thing I useta see in the squad cars of various agencies, where there’d be an audible alert when some new message would get posted to the system.

25 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2015 11:57:51am

re: #22 Lord Of The Pies

I can’t give you an answer off the top of my head but I can ask the Diesel team.

Thanks!

26 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2015 11:59:09am

re: #24 Khal Wimpo

Is there a dispatch radio system in the truck? Sounds like the kind of thing I useta see in the squad cars of various agencies, where there’d be an audible alert when some new message would get posted to the system.

I’ll have to ask him. I wouldn’t think so, because they communicate via cellphone.

27 Nyet  Apr 24, 2015 11:59:30am

Let’s see:

1. Naturalistic fallacy. Even if his description of evolution were true, no moral concepts follow from nature. “Ought” does not follow from “is”. Humans don’t serve to advance evolution.

2. Evolution doesn’t follow any goal.

28 Justanotherhuman  Apr 24, 2015 11:59:48am

re: #16 Kragar

They’ve got links and cover that in the article as well.

OK, found it finally. Thanks.

29 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 24, 2015 12:00:31pm

re: #14 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This is actually about the worst argument a religious or Christian conservative should try to advance.

In the gospel accounts, towards the end of his ministry Jesus is asked by the Sadducees about the resurrection. Specifically they pose the question of what happens in the resurrection in a case where a man dies without having produced an heir and the widow marries the deceased man’s brother to produce an heir for the original husband, and where this repeats for seven brothers, etc. So the Sadducees ask whose wife this woman will be assuming all the deceased men have been resurrected.

Jesus responds, in part, that in the resurrection, there is no marriage or giving in marriage, that men and women are like the angels (meaning, presumably, that there is no longer any marriage or reproduction, etc, although scholarly interpretations differ, blah blah blah).

There’s not a lot of attention in Christian circles to this passage, I think for obvious reasons. But at a minimum it certainly raises some troubling questions for people who assume that human reproduction is so important it should dictate marriage policy. If at some point the whole reproduction business ends anyway….

And I would wonder if this was a question about marriage, or property rights? (Which, to a degree, are the same thing.)

30 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 24, 2015 12:02:05pm

re: #29 Feline Fearless Leader

And I would wonder if this was a question about marriage, or property rights? (Which, to a degree, are the same thing.)

Property. The whole point of the levirate marriage was to make sure the widow did not walk off with the family property and marry some guy in a different tribe.

31 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 24, 2015 12:04:42pm

re: #22 Lord Of The Pies

I can’t give you an answer off the top of my head but I can ask the Diesel team.

That’s the “Imminent Maximum Overdrive” warning buzzer.
;P

32 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 24, 2015 12:06:29pm

re: #30 Lord Of The Pies

Property. The whole point of the levirate marriage was to make sure the widow did not walk off with the family property and marry some guy in a different tribe.

So it won’t matter in Heaven since the widow has nothing to walk off with.

33 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 24, 2015 12:06:45pm

re: #23 Kragar

Nothing says smaller government and states rights like sponsoring a Constitutional Amendment saying States can’t legalize Same Sex Marriage.

Basic conservative logic:

Things the government SHOULD regulate:

- Marriage
- Women
- Religion
- Minority voters

Things the government should NOT regulate:

- The environment
- Corporations
- Land owning white people
- GUNZ!

34 Kragar  Apr 24, 2015 12:07:53pm
35 Justanotherhuman  Apr 24, 2015 12:08:10pm

This is pretty interesting. It seems to imply that women are probably also more “bi-curious” than men as well, and can have both male and female relationships with ease.

Adding to the confusion about what causes lesbianism is the slipperiness of female sexuality itself. Unlike men, who are usually sexually oriented solely toward men or women, and whose sexuality is essentially fixed from puberty on, a decade of research by the University of Utah psychologist Lisa Diamond and others demonstrates that women have greater “erotic plasticity.” Their sexual orientation can be shaped by cultural influences, altered by positive or negative experiences and intensified by feelings of love or attachment. Women are far more likely than men to “report remarkably late and abrupt onset of same-sex sexuality, often after heterosexual marriage,” Diamond wrote in January in the Archives of Sexual Behavior.

livescience.com

36 Lidane  Apr 24, 2015 12:09:00pm

re: #23 Kragar

Nothing says smaller government and states rights like sponsoring a Constitutional Amendment saying States can’t legalize Same Sex Marriage.

Or saying that the courts can’t decide any marriage cases until AFTER SSM is banned by law.

Personally, I love Perkins demanding that SCOTUS be impeached if they strike down SSM bans. That’s a great way to get the justices to consider your arguments. ///////

37 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 24, 2015 12:09:04pm

re: #32 Feline Fearless Leader

So it won’t matter in Heaven since the widow has nothing to walk off with.

I think the subject was resurrection but the Saddukim were baiting him since they didn’t believe in resurrection, it was a Pharisaic concept.

38 nearly-headless smith25  Apr 24, 2015 12:10:27pm

re: #34 Kragar

I’d like an investigation into why Mr. Reserve Deputy Guy was allowed to go to the Bahamas for a month-long vacation.

39 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 12:11:52pm

re: #19 Lidane

These are deeply stupid, incredibly desperate people. They’re scared. They see SCOTUS striking down same-sex marriage bans and sweeping the rest of their backwards, socially regressive views along with it.

Witness:

Steve King introducing legislation to strip the courts — including SCOTUS — of any jurisdiction over marriage cases

Ted Cruz introducing two bills in the Senate: one a Constitutional amendment banning SSM and the other a bill banning the courts from deciding any marriage cases until the Amendment is passed

BTW, Tony Perkins is babbling again:

I miss the days when conservatives called for Constitutional Amendments.
//

40 Justanotherhuman  Apr 24, 2015 12:11:56pm

Eric Holder delivers remarks, stresses need to protect voting rights, during last day as attorney general

41 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 12:12:49pm

re: #37 Lord Of The Pies

I think the subject was resurrection but the Saddukim were baiting him since they didn’t believe in resurrection, it was a Pharisaic concept.

Yes

42 Kragar  Apr 24, 2015 12:12:58pm
43 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 24, 2015 12:13:09pm

I’ve been finding out more about FRC’s parent org, Focus on the Family, and the Holly Roller Empire they have created in formerly progressive Colorado Springs. FOTF’s headquarters compound (they call it a campus) occupies 47 acres and has its own ZIP code. FRC and another related accomplice, the Family Research Institute, also have large facilities in the Springs.

In a pattern often seen in business and industry, this has apparently triggered a large influx of similar but smaller organizations into the area in recent years.

At one time Colorado Springs was counted to be the national headquarters for 81 different religious organizations, earning the city the tongue-in-cheek nicknames “the Evangelical Vatican” and “The Christian Mecca.”

Some of these are legit, but most are simply variations on the all-too-familiar fundy consumer grift.

44 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 24, 2015 12:14:08pm

re: #42 Kragar

Further confirmation to me that we are not an intelligent species. We are *capable* of logical intelligence, but it’s not a default condition.
/

45 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2015 12:15:12pm

Speaking of science…

46 Justanotherhuman  Apr 24, 2015 12:17:41pm

Why bother? He hasn’t a chance of a snow ball in hell. Oh wait, is it because he’s about to be indicted?

NJ Gov. Chris Christie’s wife resigns from job on Wall Street, fueling speculation he will run in 2016 - @FoxBusiness
read more on foxbusiness.com

47 makeitstop  Apr 24, 2015 12:18:57pm

Greetz from the cold and somewhat snowy city of Syracuse, NY! My wife had to come up here for business, so I decided to drive her up.

We just got to our lovely hotel, and my wife headed out to go meet the folks out at the job site. I’m just checking in here, then I’ll probably grab my camera and go out and buzz around town taking some pics. I saw some pretty cool old architecture on the way in, so I’m going to go check it out.

I do wish it was warmer and not snowing, but it is what it is.

48 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 24, 2015 12:19:49pm

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel

I’ve been finding out more about FRC’s parent org, Focus on the Family, and the Holly Roller Empire they have created in formerly progressive Colorado Springs. FOTF’s headquarters compound (they call it a campus) occupies 47 acres and has its own ZIP code. FRC and another related accomplice, the Family Research Institute, also have large facilities in the Springs.

In a pattern often seen in business and industry, this has apparently triggered a large influx of similar but smaller organizations into the area in recent years.

Some of these are legit, but most are simply variations on the all-too-familiar fundy consumer grift.

Charlie Stross’ _The Apocalypse Codex_, a novel in his Lovecraftian “Laundry” series has a lot of action set in Colorado Springs and involving a evangelical organization with a large fenced-in campus.

Isopods from another world that act sort of like an actual terrestrial species are also featured.

49 Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2015 12:20:50pm

re: #19 Lidane

These are deeply stupid, incredibly desperate people. They’re scared. They see SCOTUS striking down same-sex marriage bans and sweeping the rest of their backwards, socially regressive views along with it.

Witness:

Steve King introducing legislation to strip the courts — including SCOTUS — of any jurisdiction over marriage cases

Ted Cruz introducing two bills in the Senate: one a Constitutional amendment banning SSM and the other a bill banning the courts from deciding any marriage cases until the Amendment is passed

BTW, Tony Perkins is babbling again:

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Because this is a good idea, making social issues a centerpiece of the elections when you’re behind the eight ball on pretty much every issue.

50 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 24, 2015 12:22:33pm

re: #48 Feline Fearless Leader

Charlie Stross’ _The Apocalypse Codex_, a novel in his Lovecraftian “Laundry” series has a lot of action set in Colorado Springs and involving a evangelical organization with a large fenced-in campus.

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Sounds cool, I’ll have to check it out.

51 Justanotherhuman  Apr 24, 2015 12:23:23pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

And they’re desperately afraid the world will keep on revolving without them.

How pitiful of them. It will.

52 Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2015 12:24:23pm

re: #31 Feline Fearless Leader

That’s the “Imminent Maximum Overdrive” warning buzzer.
;P

For those unaware, the “Imminent Maximum Overdrive” buzzer sounds like this:

53 Lidane  Apr 24, 2015 12:24:27pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

Because this is a good idea, making social issues a centerpiece of the elections when you’re behind the eight ball on pretty much every issue.

This is excellent news for John McCain Mitt Romney Jeb Bush!

Please proceed.

54 Justanotherhuman  Apr 24, 2015 12:25:44pm

It seems someone had called in a bomb threat and a suspicious pkg was found.

Source: All clear given after Statue of Liberty evacuation - @NBCNewYork
nbcnewyork.com

55 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2015 12:27:58pm

On Twitter, its a day that ends in Y.

56 Justanotherhuman  Apr 24, 2015 12:28:33pm
57 Lidane  Apr 24, 2015 12:30:46pm

Compassionate conservatism, y’all —

58 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Apr 24, 2015 12:30:51pm

I’m sure he doesn’t give a shit, but I had to say it.

59 Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2015 12:31:11pm

So the GOP started out their new Congressional majority by introducing an abortion ban bill, then held up a human trafficking bill for months because they tried to slip a bill to extend the Hyde Amendment to cover private donations, and now they’re marching up to the top of Same-Sex Marriage Hill again.

There is something fascinating about watching a party commit political seppuku.

60 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Apr 24, 2015 12:31:43pm

I think today was the day I woke up and stopped giving a shit about appearances. :/

61 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 24, 2015 12:32:15pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

So the GOP started out their new Congressional majority by introducing an abortion ban bill, then held up a human trafficking bill for months because they tried to slip a bill to extend the Hyde Amendment to cover private donations, and now they’re marching up to the top of Same-Sex Marriage Hill again.

There is something fascinating about watching a party commit political seppuku.

Only really interesting if it results in a massive electoral loss and a change in political behavior. Otherwise it is just part of a continuing nightmare.

62 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2015 12:32:33pm

re: #60 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I think today was the day I woke up and stopped giving a shit about appearances. :/

sooo…you decided not to wear pants today?

63 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 24, 2015 12:33:23pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

sooo…you decided not to wear pants today?

If out visiting the Statue of Liberty as well it could explain a few other things.
///

64 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Apr 24, 2015 12:33:59pm

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel

I’ve been finding out more about FRC’s parent org, Focus on the Family, and the Holly Roller Empire they have created in formerly progressive Colorado Springs. FOTF’s headquarters compound (they call it a campus) occupies 47 acres and has its own ZIP code. FRC and another related accomplice, the Family Research Institute, also have large facilities in the Springs.

In a pattern often seen in business and industry, this has apparently triggered a large influx of similar but smaller organizations into the area in recent years.

Some of these are legit, but most are simply variations on the all-too-familiar fundy consumer grift.

WARNING: There be dragons there! ;)

65 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Apr 24, 2015 12:34:45pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

sooo…you decided not to wear pants today?

I’m contemplating wearing the full Frankenfurter costume tonight ;D

66 Lidane  Apr 24, 2015 12:34:58pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

So the GOP started out their new Congressional majority by introducing an abortion ban bill, then held up a human trafficking bill for months because they tried to slip a bill to extend the Hyde Amendment to cover private donations, and now they’re marching up to the top of Same-Sex Marriage Hill again.

There is something fascinating about watching a party commit political seppuku.

All of which will lead to another round of “WE WOULD HAVE WON IF WE’D NOMINATED A REAL CONSERVATIVE! if Hillary wins in 2016.

67 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2015 12:36:14pm

re: #65 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I’m contemplating wearing the full Frankenfurter costume tonight ;D

Yay, you! DO IT!

68 Whack-A-Mole  Apr 24, 2015 12:37:24pm

re: #57 Lidane

Someone should amend this proposal to include the requirement that the food prepared at the Governors residence and legislative cafeterias meet these requirements as well. After all, we wouldn’t want our tax money to be used for unhealthy food.

69 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2015 12:37:58pm

re: #65 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I’m contemplating wearing the full Frankenfurter costume tonight ;D

Speaking of which, I am completely distraught that there is talk (serious talk!) of a Rocky Horror remake.

Talk about horror! And outright blasphemy!!!

70 Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2015 12:39:47pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

Speaking of which, I am completely distraught that there is talk (serious talk!) of a Rocky Horror remake.

Talk about horror! And outright blasphemy!!!

I agree. There will never be anything like this ever again - no matter who they cast.

71 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  Apr 24, 2015 12:39:59pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

Speaking of which, I am completely distraught that there is talk (serious talk!) of a Rocky Horror remake.

Talk about horror! And outright blasphemy!!!

I refuse to believe in that heresy.

(we’re doing a cover of Time Warp during our show tonight, btw)

72 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2015 12:41:23pm

re: #70 Dr Lizardo

I agree. There will never be anything like this ever again - no matter who they cast.

[Embedded content]

I swear, Sheldon Adelson is one of those time warp dancers.

73 Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2015 12:45:21pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

Speaking of which, I am completely distraught that there is talk (serious talk!) of a Rocky Horror remake.

Talk about horror! And outright blasphemy!!!

Besides………I can’t think of anyone that could pull this off as well as Tim Curry did:

74 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2015 12:45:22pm
75 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2015 12:47:36pm

re: #73 Dr Lizardo

My first husband (RIP) said if there was anyone who had a chance to make him experiment with the ghey life, it would be Tim Curry as Dr. Frank N. Furter.

76 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 24, 2015 12:48:25pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

“If you logically game this out, the idea that somehow same-sex marriage or same-sex attraction, homosexuality, could be the advancement of evolution,” he said, “well, it would be the end of the road. It is a dead-end street. You’re certainly not going to reproduce.”

My head exploded three times reading this.

logically, this proves that grandma is a trolley

77 CriticalDragon1177  Apr 24, 2015 12:51:02pm

Charles Johnson

It boggles the mind that the one instance someone would accept the scientific fact of evolution would be the one instance they thought they could use it to attack gay people.

78 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2015 12:54:23pm
79 Lidane  Apr 24, 2015 12:54:56pm

THIS ASSHOLE:

How dare teh preznit be a black man!

//////

80 #FergusonFireside  Apr 24, 2015 12:55:21pm

Native American actor on CNN who left the Adam Sandler set described one scene:

Native American played by white actress is knocked out on ground, the brothers (Sandler & other) poured alcohol on her & she woke up & started dancing.

Well hell.

81 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 12:56:01pm

re: #57 Lidane

Compassionate conservatism, y’all —

Always wondered what happened to Bull Connor after the Civil Rights Movement.

82 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 24, 2015 12:59:07pm

I honestly can’t tell if this article from the spectacularly misnamed American Thinker is serious or satirical. (via do not link)

Is Obama Arming Iran for a Secret Reason?

I’ll save some suspense. The author proposes that Obama is allowing Iran to acquire nuclear weapons in the hope that a small scale nuclear war will create enough of a “nuclear winter” effect to reverse global warming.
Obviously American Thinker authors do not believe in either nuclear winter or global warming but they think Obama does and tying the two together would provide him with an obvious motive.

83 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2015 1:00:58pm

I swept up enough AZ today, I’m not gonna watch this:

84 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 24, 2015 1:02:13pm

Fox News Poll conducted by Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R). April 19-21, 2015. N=383 likely Republican primary voters nationwide.

“I’m going to read a list of potential candidates for the 2016 Republican
nomination. Please tell me which one you would like to see as the Republican presidential nominee. [See below.]”

Marco Rubio 13
Scott Walker 12
Rand Paul 10
Jeb Bush 9

i can foresee here the tremendous enthusiasm that will result when the republic party , wall st, forces the nomination of nominates jeb

85 Lidane  Apr 24, 2015 1:02:53pm

re: #82 Shiplord Kirel

I honestly can’t tell if this article from the spectacularly misnamed American Thinker is serious or satirical. (via do not link)

Is Obama Arming Iran for a Secret Reason?

I’ve been told it’s real, but I’m always wanting to invoke Poe’s Law when it comes to that site.

86 Ace-o-aces  Apr 24, 2015 1:03:51pm

Seriously, that ride is lame. They could use some new material.

87 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2015 1:04:24pm

re: #82 Shiplord Kirel

American Thinker is a bunch of rightwing conservatives.
Publisher Thomas Lifson describes himself as “a recovering academic”.

88 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 24, 2015 1:04:47pm

re: #81 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Always wondered what happened to Bull Connor after the Civil Rights Movement.

Was still getting elected to public offices in Alabama as of 1964.

en.wikipedia.org

89 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2015 1:05:12pm

re: #84 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

where’s cruz?

probably at a fundraiser…

90 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 24, 2015 1:06:13pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

where’s cruz?

probably at a fundraiser…

Mike Huckabee 9
Ted Cruz 8

tailgunner cruz has slipped just a bit

91 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2015 1:06:49pm

re: #90 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Mike Huckabee 9
Ted Cruz 8

tailgunner cruz has slipped just a bit

UpChuck-for-brains will be incensed…

92 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 24, 2015 1:07:23pm

Silver Trail Distillery in Hardin, KY is gone.

nbcnews.com

93 Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2015 1:07:49pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

UpChuck-for-brains will be incensed…

And the Freepers, too. So far “It’s Cruz or Lose” as they’ve put it. I think JimRob is pretty much in the tank for Cruz, too.

94 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 24, 2015 1:08:03pm

re: #90 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Mike Huckabee 9
Ted Cruz 8

tailgunner cruz has slipped just a bit

Did you find Christie and Carson at all?
///

95 Decatur Deb  Apr 24, 2015 1:08:41pm

re: #86 Ace-o-aces

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Seriously, that ride is lame. They could use some new material.

Took my kids on it 40 years ago, grandkid this year. Definitely some of the same jokes.

96 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 1:08:52pm

re: #93 Dr Lizardo

And the Freepers, too. So far “It’s Cruz or Lose” as they’ve put it. I think JimRob is pretty much in the tank for Cruz, too.

These guys sure can pick a winner, can’t they?

97 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2015 1:08:56pm

re: #92 Feline Fearless Leader

Silver Trail Distillery in Hardin, KY is gone.

nbcnews.com

yikes!

98 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 1:09:24pm

re: #90 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Mike Huckabee 9
Ted Cruz 8

tailgunner cruz has slipped just a bit

SKEWED!!!!!!1

99 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 1:10:28pm

re: #88 Feline Fearless Leader

Was still getting elected to public offices in Alabama as of 1964.

en.wikipedia.org

Maybe Connor and the Maine governor are related.
/

100 Dr Lizardo  Apr 24, 2015 1:10:38pm

re: #96 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

These guys sure can pick a winner, can’t they?

On the bright side, I could tell President Obama would handily be re-elected by moseying over to the fever swamp that is FR, and it was apparent that a good many wingnuts were planning on sitting out the election.

FR is pretty much wingnut central.

101 Lidane  Apr 24, 2015 1:12:40pm

re: #84 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Unpossible! Ted Cruz is the Great Latino Hope for Murica!

RINO Marco Rubio runs best against with Hillary Clinton
Cruz/Palin or Cruz/Bolton vs Clinton/Romney or Clinton/Rubio

Consider the source - Politico.

Do you think they would ever publish a poll with Ted Cruz in the lead???

A pack of lies.

It will come down to Bush and Rubio.

Well, then we might as well ignore the rest of 2015 and 2016 because the GOP loses with either of those cheap labor importers.

I find it hard to believe that even 10 percent of the U.S. people have ever heard of this Rubio.

GOP-e trying to setup “Tea-Party” Rubio.

When in reality, Rubio is the GOP-e stalking horse to the REAL Tea-Partier - Ted Cruz!!

102 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 24, 2015 1:12:43pm

re: #94 Feline Fearless Leader

Did you find Christie and Carson at all?
///

Ben Carson 6
Chris Christie 6

other/unsure/none of the above ties rubio at 13%

(sigh!) what does it all mean???

103 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 1:12:47pm

re: #82 Shiplord Kirel

The author proposes that Obama is allowing Iran to acquire nuclear weapons in the hope that a small scale nuclear war will create enough of a “nuclear winter” effect to reverse global warming.

That’s gold, Jerry, GOLD!!!!

104 Jack Burton  Apr 24, 2015 1:13:42pm
105 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 1:14:43pm

re: #101 Lidane

RINO Marco Rubio runs best against with Hillary Clinton
Cruz/Palin or Cruz/Bolton vs Clinton/Romney or Clinton/Rubio

OK, which of you lizards is over there trolling this?

/

106 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 24, 2015 1:14:46pm

by the way:

Carly Fiorina -

that’s right - she doesn’t even register the 1% that others like george pataki or rick santorum rate…

107 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 1:15:06pm

re: #101 Lidane

I get the funny feeling that they don’t like Rubio much.

/

108 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 24, 2015 1:16:19pm

re: #102 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Ben Carson 6
Chris Christie 6

other/unsure/none of the above ties rubio at 13%

(sigh!) what does it all mean???

Clown Car eats its own and Jeb ends up with 35% as the others have eliminated each other. Repeat of 2012 and the Romneybot.

109 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 1:16:52pm

re: #101 Lidane

It will come down to Bush and Rubio.

Well, then we might as well ignore the rest of 2015 and 2016 because the GOP loses with either of those cheap labor importers.

FR has got some pretty sharp labor economists over there.

/

110 Kragar  Apr 24, 2015 1:17:32pm

re: #86 Ace-o-aces

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Seriously, that ride is lame. They could use some new material.

New Jungle Book movie in the works. Expect it to be completely redone to fit the new material

111 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 24, 2015 1:18:23pm

re: #108 Feline Fearless Leader

Clown Car eats its own and Jeb ends up with 35% as the others have eliminated each other. Repeat of 2012 and the Romneybot.

i think the gop’s best bet in 2016 is to run the Other/Nobody ticket

112 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 24, 2015 1:19:32pm

re: #110 Kragar

New Jungle Book movie in the works. Expect it to be completely redone to fit the new material

I presume they’ll make Shere Khan a Muslim tiger?
////

113 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 24, 2015 1:20:01pm

re: #111 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i think the gop’s best bet in 2016 is to run the Other/Nobody ticket

Or get their candidate to do an official name change to “Not Hillary”.
////

114 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2015 1:24:05pm

Here’s what freedom is about:

115 thecommodore  Apr 24, 2015 1:24:17pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Apparently no one has told this clown that homosexuality has been around for thousands of years now and the human race is nowhere near close to dying off due to lack of population (quite the opposite actually).

This isn’t apples to oranges, this is Apples to Steaks.

It’s stupid to stupid.

116 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2015 1:27:39pm

re: #82 Shiplord Kirel

Oh my. My goodness. Goodness me. My my.

I may have to do a post about that one. It breaks new ground in wingnut paranoia.

117 Ace-o-aces  Apr 24, 2015 1:30:23pm

Also, may I point out how stupid any DKR sequel is, because it was supposed to be the last Batman story.

118 Charles Johnson  Apr 24, 2015 1:31:40pm

re: #117 Ace-o-aces

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Also, may I point out how stupid any DKR sequel is, because it was supposed to be the last Batman story.

In comic book land, there’s no such thing as a last story.

119 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 1:32:00pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Oh my. My goodness. Goodness me. My my.

I may have to do a post about that one. It breaks new ground in wingnut paranoia.

It’s about as staggering derp pile as I’ve seen and that’s saying something.

120 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 24, 2015 1:32:11pm

re: #57 Lidane

Compassionate conservatism, y’all —

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This afternoon I found a flyer in my mailbox advertising BUY GROCERIES ON CREDIT!!!! (the small print says if you don’t pay by the due date they will send collectors after you)

I thought how horrible and desperate do people have to be to resort to BUYING FOOD ON CREDIT even with food stamps. And what kind of shitbag takes advantage of people in these circumstances.

121 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2015 1:32:11pm
122 Lidane  Apr 24, 2015 1:32:50pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

In comic book land, there’s no such thing as a last story.

Just like there’s no such thing as death unless you’re Ben Parker.

123 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 24, 2015 1:32:52pm

re: #114 wrenchwench

Here’s what freedom is about:

They know more about Freedom and Liberty than any of us, so I guess we just have to listen to them.

/

124 Ace-o-aces  Apr 24, 2015 1:33:11pm

re: #95 Decatur Deb

Took my kids on it 40 years ago, grandkid this year. Definitely some of the same jokes.

The cast is allowed to do some improvising, but they can get in trouble if they stray too far. A guide at Disneyland was fired from the ride because he pulled out his fake pistol, fired it at an anamatronic Rhino and went, “Welcome to L.A!”

125 wrenchwench  Apr 24, 2015 1:33:45pm

re: #123 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

They know more about Freedom and Liberty than any of us, so I guess we just have to listen to them.

/

Let me fry my head first…

126 Ace-o-aces  Apr 24, 2015 1:34:30pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Oh my. My goodness. Goodness me. My my.

I may have to do a post about that one. It breaks new ground in wingnut paranoia.

But wait! It does explain why he was trying to nuke Charleston!

127 TedStriker  Apr 24, 2015 1:39:54pm

re: #82 Shiplord Kirel

I honestly can’t tell if this article from the spectacularly misnamed American Thinker is serious or satirical. (via do not link)

Is Obama Arming Iran for a Secret Reason?

I’ll save some suspense. The author proposes that Obama is allowing Iran to acquire nuclear weapons in the hope that a small scale nuclear war will create enough of a “nuclear winter” effect to reverse global warming.
Obviously American Thinker authors do not believe in either nuclear winter or global warming but they think Obama does and tying the two together would provide him with an obvious motive.

Sounds like they lifted part of the the plot from Snowpiercer

128 Targetpractice  Apr 24, 2015 1:40:34pm

re: #122 Lidane

Just like there’s no such thing as death unless you’re Ben Parker.

I think that’s what has made comics so laughable, that they advertise “The Death of (insert popular character)!!!,” then less the 5 years later advertise “The Return of (insert same character)!!!” It’s like how Marvel’s been flogging the death of Wolverine. You just can’t take them seriously anymore.

129 Justanotherhuman  Apr 24, 2015 1:47:17pm

Oh shit. Someone’s out there in the woods preparing for the Revolution.

{sigh}

130 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 24, 2015 1:47:20pm

re: #120 Lord Of The Pies

O/T but Amazon has an Amish pie cookbook Kindle version on sale today for 99 cents:

Me, Myself and Pie

131 De Kolta Chair  Apr 24, 2015 1:55:06pm

“It’s Sapiens to be Homo” — government slogan in Anthony Burgess’ “The Wanting Seed”

The Wanting Seed was described as ‘perverse’ when it first appeared in the 1960s. Well, what could be more perverse than a world in which homosexuality is ruthlessly elevated over heterosexuality in the name of combating mass fecundity?

— Brendan O’Neill, spouting homophobic gibberish in a 2010 pile of gobbledygook (supposedly an essay) at something called spiked-online. com (does it still exist outside of the web cachesphere? Who cares!) entitled “Our Brave New World of Malthusian Madmen”

I only bring it up because for me Springtime is Burgess-reading time.

132 ObserverArt  Apr 24, 2015 1:58:38pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Oh my. My goodness. Goodness me. My my.

I may have to do a post about that one. It breaks new ground in wingnut paranoia.

American Thinker must have discovered some kind of new hallucinative compound. Maybe Alex Jones is the new crazy chemist and is sharing it.

133 Justanotherhuman  Apr 24, 2015 2:11:16pm

—-

134 Decatur Deb  Apr 24, 2015 2:22:36pm

re: #124 Ace-o-aces

The cast is allowed to do some improvising, but they can get in trouble if they stray too far. A guide at Disneyland was fired from the ride because he pulled out his fake pistol, fired it at an anamatronic Rhino and went, “Welcome to L.A!”

Our family has a bad history with it. When the kid was 4, he went with his mother, I stayed on the dock with older siblings. Two minutes in, the script was “Now we are leaving civilization, never to return.” Kid: “MY DADDY’S BACK THERE!!!1! WAAAAAHHH” for the whole ride.

This time, the very personable guide pulled us up towards the dock and announced “Get off my boat.” in a mock-harsh character. The 4 yr old grandkid went over the side rail. We grabbed him before he hit the water or got squooshed.


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