News: a state of emergency has been declared, and a 10 pm to 5 am curfew will be in effect again tonight in Baltimore. So far police have arrested 34 juveniles and 205 adults.
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Apr 28, 2015 11:34:11am |
re: #1 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
And so far, no deaths.
Except for Freddie Gray, through means yet unknown.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 11:37:43am |
re: #2 Dr. Matt
Dr. Phil Blames Parents, Not Reaganomics, For Baltimore Riots
Does Dr. Phil blame the parents when white suburban college kids riot after something far more trivial than a man’s death? Or does have this condescending crap for black parents.
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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 28, 2015 11:40:09am |
re: #4 HappyWarrior
I know Dr. Phil is from Texas, but I’m not too familiar with his politics. I always felt he was more towards the Liberal side.
Is he actually a wingnut?
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Higgs Boson's Mate Apr 28, 2015 11:40:32am |
Dr. Phil’s advice on this subject is just about as good as his weight loss products.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 28, 2015 11:40:36am |
re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg
I know Dr. Phil is from Texas, but I’m not too familiar with his politics. I always felt he was more towards the Liberal side.
Is he actually a wingnut?
Dr. Phil is a quack
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Varek Raith Apr 28, 2015 11:40:54am |
re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg
I know Dr. Phil is from Texas, but I’m not too familiar with his politics. I always felt he was more towards the Liberal side.
Is he actually a wingnut?
He’s a quack.
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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 28, 2015 11:41:37am |
Also, I think if we are going to be totally honest about Police officers in America today we need to give them a new name…
Not Cops…
Not Law Enforcement…
Not [name of city’s] Finest…
How about:
White People Protection Serivces
“To Serve and Protect…Our Own”
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Charles Johnson Apr 28, 2015 11:43:36am |
So far, Chuck Johnson has advocated:
• taking away welfare
• taking away EBT cards
• taking away cell phones
• shooting protesters en masse
• violence against the mayor of Baltimore
He’s a straight up fascist.
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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 28, 2015 11:44:47am |
re: #11 Charles Johnson
So far, Chuck Johnson has advocated:
• taking away welfare
• taking away EBT cards
• taking away cell phones
• shooting protesters en masse
• violence against the mayor of BaltimoreHe’s a straight up fascist.
Is he STILL on Twitter??? What will it take to get him banned? Christ.
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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 28, 2015 11:45:09am |
re: #12 Varek Raith
I had no idea what a ‘nickel ride’ was.
Jesus.
I just started reading about that myself. What a bunch of sadistic fuckers.
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Khal Wimpo Apr 28, 2015 11:45:16am |
re: #8 Varek Raith
He’s a quack.
Friend of mine worked on the Dr. Phil show. The experience was basically akin to working in an Amazon warehouse. Slap everything together as quickly and cheaply as possible, while running flat out all day, every day to make impossible deadlines. The work product was shit. The working conditions were shit.
Which made the show profitable beyond the dreams of Croesus. All the wealth flowed to the few at the top, while everyone else scrounged for rent money each month, and went to the free clinic when they suffered injuries from burnout & exhaustion.
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Varek Raith Apr 28, 2015 11:45:20am |
re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg
Is he STILL on Twitter??? What will it take to get him banned? Christ.
At this point?
Nothing.
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Apr 28, 2015 11:45:23am |
re: #12 Varek Raith
I had no idea what a ‘nickel ride’ was.
Jesus.
You know who knows all about “nickel rides” and what urban black youth regularly face from the police? Chuck c Johnson, Dana Loesch, Rush Limbaugh and Ben Shapiro.
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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 28, 2015 11:46:14am |
re: #15 Khal Wimpo
What was this person responsible for exactly?
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lawhawk Apr 28, 2015 11:46:30am |
re: #2 Dr. Matt
I blame Oprah. For inflicting both @drphil and @DrOz on unsuspecting public with their baffling bs. @dreggas @darthstar99 @DrPhil— lawhawk (@lawhawk) April 28, 2015
Seriously though, if you want to attribute blame:
1) The Baltimore PD: for killing Freddie Gray with a ride that led to his severed spine and death. The officers involved committed homicide. It exposes a cruel and pervasive view among law enforcement that they can assault suspects and get away with it. The BPD also gets blamed for escalating events as well (following the Ferguson model).
2) Baltimore politicians, from the mayor on down, for letting the BPD get away with this for as long as they have. It also includes those officials who decided to stop mass transit in the area right as schools were letting out, meaning that a bunch of people were stuck in the middle of protests with no where to go and got swept up in the protests that devolved into riots. They too appear to be following the Ferguson model.
3). The rioters who used Gray’s death as an excuse to destroy the community in which they live. Little is gained, and much is lost by those who had nothing to do with Gray’s death and who attempt to serve the community (stores, businesses, etc.). As with the prior two groups, the rioters also followed the Ferguson model and engaged in violence with the death of Gray as a pretext/excuse.
Something is seriously wrong with law enforcement across the country, and it shouldn’t take skin color to figure it out. It’s out there for all to see (but many are color blind and/or refuse to see).
I shouldn’t have to say this but understanding why people are protesting in Baltimore (or elsewhere) doesn’t mean that I condone the violence. Violence begets the violence, and the BPD escalated things, just as surely as they killed Gray.
So, while I respect and understand that cops have a tremendously difficult job and that they put their lives on the line day and day out, that doesn’t mean that they can’t or shouldn’t be doing an even better job - especially when it comes to policing their own to root out bad cops, those who engage in criminality, and those who jump to use excessive or deadly force when the circumstances do not warrant.
It also means examining and rewriting the laws to make use of deadly force a decision of last resort, unlike the instances we’ve come to see shown in video where the cops shoot first, often, and without consequences.
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Timothy Watson Apr 28, 2015 11:46:46am |
re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg
I know Dr. Phil is from Texas, but I’m not too familiar with his politics. I always felt he was more towards the Liberal side.
Is he actually a wingnut?
He’s definitely a scumbag:
Eventually they moved to Topeka, where McGraw built and owned a health spa, McCall said. In marriage he was not the kind, sensitive boyfriend he’d been in high school, she claims. He did not allow her to get involved in the business; her domain was their home. He wanted her to always “look nice,” which included lifting weights to bulk up her chest, she said.
McGraw, who has been married to his second wife since 1976, has admitted that as a young man, his entrepreneurial efforts in everything from health clubs to motivational seminars often came at the expense of his second family.
He and his wife, Robin, have two grown sons. He and McCall had no children together.
Under his domineering personality, McCall said she felt like a tightly coiled spring that finally popped back to life. The marriage ended when friends and neighbors questioned his commitment to the marriage.
“When I confronted him about his infidelities he didn’t deny these girls and told me that it had nothing to do with his feelings toward me, to grow up, that’s the way it was in the world,” McCall said.
The relationship ended when she left him in 1973 and moved back to Kansas City, she said.
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Jenner7 Apr 28, 2015 11:46:56am |
re: #12 Varek Raith
I didn’t either. I can’t even fathom being Freddie in that moment.
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Kryptik Apr 28, 2015 11:47:36am |
re: #11 Charles Johnson
And yet still, despite his tendency to put his foot in his own ass, he and his kindred spirits still have an outrageously and depressively large support base in this country that believe in these kinds of solutions. Shit like Baltimore just tears off the mask hiding it when people become comfortable enough to let their freak flag fly, knowing most of the country agrees with them.
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Higgs Boson's Mate Apr 28, 2015 11:48:20am |
re: #11 Charles Johnson
I’d say that “fascist” implies far more focus and organization than Chuck is capable of. He strikes me as a talentless hack who’s desperately flailing to vindicate his high opinion of himself.
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Lord Of The Pies Apr 28, 2015 11:48:32am |
Cops were already investigating Freddie Gray case. So what was the goal here? Redistribution and reinforcing perception of US as racist.— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) April 28, 2015
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A Cranky One Apr 28, 2015 11:48:43am |
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Lord Of The Pies Apr 28, 2015 11:49:18am |
re: #11 Charles Johnson
So far, Chuck Johnson has advocated:
• taking away welfare
• taking away EBT cards
• taking away cell phones
• shooting protesters en masse
• violence against the mayor of BaltimoreHe’s a straight up fascist.
I guess he’s saving LET’S BRING BACK SLAVERY!!!!!!! for the next Griftathon.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 11:50:17am |
re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg
I know Dr. Phil is from Texas, but I’m not too familiar with his politics. I always felt he was more towards the Liberal side.
Is he actually a wingnut?
I don’t know his political ideology but I do know he’s a condescending dick.
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Apr 28, 2015 11:51:17am |
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 11:51:37am |
re: #25 Lord Of The Pies
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So Ben were you angry at the Bundy protesters who actually aimed fuckign weapons at law enforcement or do you save your phony outrage only at black people upset about Gray’s death.Just go the fuck away and stop acting like you know what you’re talking about because you’re nothing but a wingnut welfare brat.
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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 28, 2015 11:51:46am |
The core issue is here NOT just the police it’s the growing divide in America between the haves and the have notes.
Whether you look at it from an economic, racial or religious lens the same story rings true: A certain group of wealthy and powerful Americans has succeeded in drawing a dividing line between themselves and everyone else.
There are now two Americas, one for the wealthy and the privileged and one for the plebeians to fight over whatever scraps are left.
It’s a story told throughout history and it usually reaches the same eventual conclusion…which doesn’t bode well for the wealthy.
I’d like to think America is beyond such things, but I don’t doubt for a second there’s a group of people in this country who would be totally fine with bringing back the Guillotine.
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Lord Of The Pies Apr 28, 2015 11:53:27am |
Is it just me, or does this year’s ZOA venue look really shitty?
Also too: didn’t they lose their 501(c)(3) a couple of years ago by not filing with with the IRS for 3 years?
Giving remarks at @ZOA_National annual advocacy mission to Washington, #DC pic.twitter.com/dvHmt50Jgf— Louie Gohmert (@replouiegohmert) April 28, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 28, 2015 11:54:27am |
re: #27 Lord Of The Pies
I guess he’s saving LET’S BRING BACK SLAVERY!!!!!!! for the next Griftathon.
His current griftathon is stalled at $1,050 after 11 days, and last donation was three days ago.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 11:54:31am |
Crazy. Orioles game will be played tomorrow but at 2 PM and the game will be closed to the public. Tonight’s 7 PM game is already canceled.
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Khal Wimpo Apr 28, 2015 11:54:40am |
re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg
I’d like to think America is beyond such things, but I don’t doubt for a second there’s a group of people in this country who would be totally fine with bringing back the Guillotine.
(quietly registers the domain tumbrilsrus.com)
Out the aristos!
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Kragar Apr 28, 2015 11:55:44am |
Bud Light's new tagline calls it “The perfect beer for removing ‘no’ from your vocabulary” http://t.co/0T8vMmNBJS pic.twitter.com/Som57O1cVA— Rachel Zarrell (@rachelzarrell) April 28, 2015
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A Cranky One Apr 28, 2015 11:56:00am |
re: #32 Lord Of The Pies
Is it just me, or does this year’s ZOA venue look really shitty?
…
The venue or the speaker?
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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 28, 2015 11:56:15am |
Here's what Scalia found so “refreshing”: Protester shouted, “'Homosexuality is an Abomination!' #LGBT #SCOTUS https://t.co/mjhF89RM7k— GottaLaff (@GottaLaff) April 28, 2015
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Dr Lizardo Apr 28, 2015 11:56:17am |
re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg
The core issue is here NOT just the police it’s the growing divide in America between the haves and the have notes.
Whether you look at it from an economic, racial or religious lens the same story rings true: A certain group of wealthy and powerful Americans has succeeded in drawing a dividing line between themselves and everyone else.
There are now two Americas, one for the wealthy and the privileged and one for the plebeians to fight over whatever scraps are left.
It’s a story told throughout history and it usually reaches the same eventual conclusion…which doesn’t bode well for the wealthy.
I’d like to think America is beyond such things, but I don’t doubt for a second there’s a group of people in this country who would be totally fine with bringing back the Guillotine.
Yeah, that story usually ends with someone who looks like this:
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Lord Of The Pies Apr 28, 2015 11:56:21am |
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Lord Of The Pies Apr 28, 2015 11:56:50am |
re: #39 Dr Lizardo
Yeah, that story usually ends with someone who looks like this:
Leonardo Di Caprio?
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Targetpractice Apr 28, 2015 11:57:02am |
re: #25 Lord Of The Pies
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In the last four years, the BPD has fought and lost 100 cases in court against charges of police brutality and civil right violations. In how many of those cases do you seriously believe that the police “investigated” and came to the conclusion that the officers involved were innocent, Ben?
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Dr Lizardo Apr 28, 2015 11:58:15am |
re: #41 Lord Of The Pies
Leonardo Di Caprio?
LOLOL
When I used to wear contacts, and cut my goatee a little differently, I used to get “You look a lot like Lenin” from older Czechs here.
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Apr 28, 2015 11:58:18am |
re: #34 HappyWarrior
Crazy. Orioles game will be played tomorrow but at 2 PM and the game will be closed to the public. Tonight’s 7 PM game is already canceled.
Closed to the public? Whut?
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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 28, 2015 11:58:19am |
re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Justice Scalia: Protestor who threatened gay marriage supporters with hell was “refreshing” http://t.co/teQRAJVsJl pic.twitter.com/qaXVqt3H0t— The Hill (@thehill) April 28, 2015
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lawhawk Apr 28, 2015 11:58:58am |
re: #42 Targetpractice
Since 2011, Baltimore paid out $5.7 million in excessive force claims.
Over the past four years, more than 100 people have won court judgments or settlements related to allegations of brutality and civil rights violations. Victims include a 15-year-old boy riding a dirt bike, a 26-year-old pregnant accountant who had witnessed a beating, a 50-year-old woman selling church raffle tickets, a 65-year-old church deacon rolling a cigarette and an 87-year-old grandmother aiding her wounded grandson.
Those cases detail a frightful human toll. Officers have battered dozens of residents who suffered broken bones — jaws, noses, arms, legs, ankles — head trauma, organ failure, and even death, coming during questionable arrests. Some residents were beaten while handcuffed; others were thrown to the pavement.
And in almost every case, prosecutors or judges dismissed the charges against the victims — if charges were filed at all. In an incident that drew headlines recently, charges against a South Baltimore man were dropped after a video showed an officer repeatedly punching him — a beating that led the police commissioner to say he was “shocked.”
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 11:59:09am |
re: #39 Dr Lizardo
Yeah, that story usually ends with someone who looks like this:
I’ve often contended that the ultra capitalists give communists like the Bolsheviks their best propaganda. To rip off that some more, it’s kind of like how FDR’s Brain Trust credited the New Deal with saving Capitalism.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 11:59:35am |
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b.d. Apr 28, 2015 12:00:34pm |
re: #32 Lord Of The Pies
Is it just me, or does this year’s ZOA venue look really shitty?
Also too: didn’t they lose their 501(c)(3) a couple of years ago by not filing with with the IRS for 3 years?
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The podium Louie is speaking from says United States Senate?
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Timothy Watson Apr 28, 2015 12:01:39pm |
re: #46 lawhawk
Since 2011, Baltimore paid out $5.7 million in excessive force claims.
Which, unfortunately and obviously, isn’t enough for them to fix the problem.
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Dr Lizardo Apr 28, 2015 12:02:07pm |
re: #47 HappyWarrior
I’ve often contended that the ultra capitalists give communists like the Bolsheviks their best propaganda. To rip off that some more, it’s kind of like how FDR’s Bran Trust credited the New Deal with saving Capitalism.
What was that quote from Lenin? “The capitalists will sell us the rope we use to hang them.”
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Jenner7 Apr 28, 2015 12:02:41pm |
Super proud of what @akacharleswade has gotten done today. Brother - you are gifted to do this work. Please follow #BaltimoreLunch— Shaun King (@ShaunKing) April 28, 2015
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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 28, 2015 12:02:46pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Apr 28, 2015 12:04:16pm |
re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth
Dr. Phil is a quack
We resent this unfair and disrespectful association of Dr Phil with ducks| 56 |
HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:04:27pm |
re: #52 Dr Lizardo
What was that quote from Lenin? “The capitalists will sell us the rope we use to hang them.”
Yep. Really if you want to embolden the far left in any society, be as ultra capitalistic as possible.
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Apr 28, 2015 12:04:58pm |
re: #34 HappyWarrior
Crazy. Orioles game will be played tomorrow but at 2 PM and the game will be closed to the public. Tonight’s 7 PM game is already canceled.
The Orioles also announced that their three-game series this weekend against the Tampa Bay Rays, which originally was scheduled to be played in Baltimore, instead will be played at Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg, Florida.
Jeebus.
And “closed to the public.”
Never heard of this.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:05:22pm |
re: #55 Feline Fearless Leader
Image: We resent this unfair and disrespectful association of Dr Phil with ducks
I believe ass boils have made the same complaint about Limbaugh.
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Feline Fearless Leader Apr 28, 2015 12:08:03pm |
re: #47 HappyWarrior
I’ve often contended that the ultra capitalists give communists like the Bolsheviks their best propaganda. To rip off that some more, it’s kind of like how FDR’s Bran Trust credited the New Deal with saving Capitalism.
The Bran Trust believed in delivering fiber to the people.
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Apr 28, 2015 12:08:12pm |
re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth
And if Scalia’s dissenting opinion doesn’t contain the phrase
and the Bible says gays will burn in hell forever
All our Internet blogging has been for naught.
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Dr. Matt Apr 28, 2015 12:08:17pm |
From: espn.go.com
O’S-CHISOX CLOSED TO PUBLIC WEDNESDAY
Wednesday’s game in Baltimore will begin at 2:05 p.m. ET but be closed to the public. The weekend series with the Rays has been moved to Tropicana Field. Monday’s and today’s games are rescheduled for a double-header May 28.
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Snarknado! Apr 28, 2015 12:08:52pm |
re: #47 HappyWarrior
To rip off that some more, it’s kind of like how FDR’s Bran Trust credited the New Deal with saving Capitalism.
Okay, serious business here — but my first thought about the Bran Trust is “headed by the Scarecrow of Oz?” I’ll go back to lurking now….
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:08:58pm |
re: #59 Feline Fearless Leader
The Bran Trust believed in delivering fiber to the people.
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Hahaha thanks. Just like the Kellogg-Briand pact ensured there would be no war along with a nutritious breakfast.
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Varek Raith Apr 28, 2015 12:09:15pm |
re: #61 Dr. Matt
From: espn.go.com
Those who have tickets for the postponed game should keep them.
They will be good for the May game.
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Eventual Carrion Apr 28, 2015 12:09:42pm |
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:10:34pm |
re: #61 Dr. Matt
From: espn.go.com
They should have just moved the games down to Washington. Nats are out of town this weekend.
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Feline Fearless Leader Apr 28, 2015 12:11:07pm |
re: #65 Eventual Carrion
“Shellfish is an Abomination!”
And the fabric mix of Scalia’s robe should be investigated immediately.
/
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:11:22pm |
re: #64 Varek Raith
Those who have tickets for the postponed game should keep them.
They will be good for the May game.
I loved seeing how Angelos’ son John schooled a local sports talking head bitching about the protesters. I mean say what you will about how the Angelos have done owning the team but they’er good people.
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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 28, 2015 12:11:37pm |
Seems so dumb to have them play in an empty stadium. That will look weird on TV.
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Higgs Boson's Mate Apr 28, 2015 12:11:38pm |
re: #59 Feline Fearless Leader
The Bran Trust believed in delivering fiber to the people.
//
Definitely a bunch of regular guys.
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Feline Fearless Leader Apr 28, 2015 12:11:46pm |
re: #66 HappyWarrior
They should have just moved the games down to Washington. Nats are out of town this weekend.
Can’t do that. Might give Obama an opportunity to take a game in.
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ObserverArt Apr 28, 2015 12:11:46pm |
In the last thread I saw a comment from brainiac Justice Scalia about gay marriage being new or some such, so there is no back reference to rule upon today.
Hey, an opening for controlling guns!
Semi-automatic rifles and pistols weren’t around before, so there is no reason to use the second amendment to protect them now!
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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 28, 2015 12:12:15pm |
I’m honestly starting to believe SCOTUS is going to rule against SSM.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:12:22pm |
Given that people used the Bible to attempt to justify banning Scalia’s buddy Clarence Thomas’s marriage in the past. You’d think Nino wouldn’t be such an asshole here but he is. He always fucking is.
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Varek Raith Apr 28, 2015 12:12:24pm |
re: #69 Eclectic Cyborg
Seems so dumb to have them play in an empty stadium. That will look weird on TV.
It’ll just be like a *insert your hated team here* game!
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Feline Fearless Leader Apr 28, 2015 12:12:31pm |
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lawhawk Apr 28, 2015 12:12:55pm |
re: #51 Timothy Watson
Which, unfortunately and obviously, isn’t enough for them to fix the problem.
Considering that the sums paid out to the affected people comes from the very residents of the community, every time there’s a payout, it costs these residents - the money isn’t coming out of the officer’s paychecks.
And maybe that needs to be changed; that any officer who is determined to have engaged in excessive force, must pay restitution out of their own paycheck and/or lose portion of their retirement/pensions.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:12:56pm |
re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m honestly starting to believe SCOTUS is going to rule against SSM.
Did you see what Kennedy had to say? Kennedy seems a yes at this point.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:13:38pm |
I’m going to watch the game tomorrow. It’s definitely going to be odd for sure.
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Eventual Carrion Apr 28, 2015 12:13:39pm |
re: #67 Feline Fearless Leader
And the fabric mix of Scalia’s robe should be investigated immediately.
/
But his evening wear is pure latex.
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Higgs Boson's Mate Apr 28, 2015 12:13:53pm |
re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m honestly starting to believe SCOTUS is going to rule against SSM.
I’ve had a bad feeling about this case from the start.
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Varek Raith Apr 28, 2015 12:14:31pm |
re: #79 HappyWarrior
I’m going to watch the game tomorrow. It’s definitely going to be odd for sure.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:14:57pm |
re: #81 Higgs Boson’s Mate
I’ve had a bad feeling about this case from the start.
I disagree guys. Scalia doing this is a no brainer but Kennedy was furious when the anti-gay marriage lawyer made some crappy arguments. I think the court will get this one right. I also don’t think Roberts wants go down in history as someone who affirmed modern Jim Crow.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:15:33pm |
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allegro Apr 28, 2015 12:16:03pm |
re: #51 Timothy Watson
Which, unfortunately and obviously, isn’t enough for them to fix the problem.
And it’s being paid for by the same tax payers who are getting beaten up.
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Jenner7 Apr 28, 2015 12:16:07pm |
Okay, I have a dumb question. If SCOTUS does rule against SSM, what does that mean for the states currently allowing SSM??
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Varek Raith Apr 28, 2015 12:16:22pm |
re: #84 HappyWarrior
HA! But really how bout them Mets and how bout them Nats.
One of the only teams in any sports I actually watch.
:)
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darthstar Apr 28, 2015 12:16:42pm |
I engaged with an anti-vaxxer on Twitter last week and they won’t fucking go away. I implied she should save her guilt trips for the gofundme crowd and a week later she’s joining some other anti-vax asshole in labeling “#VaccineInjured deniers” as money-oriented…so before blocking and muting this person, I fired one more shot across the bow.
@MARS0411 @peakdavid I just wish people would love their kids for who they are and stop looking for people to blame for their imperfections.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) April 28, 2015
After that, I’m done.
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Higgs Boson's Mate Apr 28, 2015 12:16:55pm |
re: #83 HappyWarrior
I disagree guys. Scalia doing this is a no brainer but Kennedy was furious when the anti-gay marriage lawyer made some crappy arguments. I think the court will get this one right. I also don’t think Roberts wants go down in history as someone who affirmed modern Jim Crow.
After affirming that corporations are people and money is speech, the sky’s the limit.
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Lord Of The Pies Apr 28, 2015 12:16:59pm |
re: #86 Jenner7
Okay, I have a dumb question. If SCOTUS does rule against SSM, what does that mean for the states currently allowing SSM??
Nothing. SCOTUS will rule that it’s a “STAITS RATS” issue.
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Apr 28, 2015 12:17:16pm |
re: #83 HappyWarrior
I disagree guys. Scalia doing this is a no brainer but Kennedy was furious when the anti-gay marriage lawyer made some crappy arguments. I think the court will get this one right. I also don’t think Roberts wants go down in history as someone who affirmed modern Jim Crow.
Their prop 8 ruling, and their refusal to put a hold on gay marriages in the districts covered under this latest challenge seem to suggest a positive ruling. Not sure how they would go about annulling marriages if they go negative.
Still, I wouldn’t take anything for granted.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:17:36pm |
re: #86 Jenner7
Okay, I have a dumb question. If SCOTUS does rule against SSM, what does that mean for the states currently allowing SSM??
Not dumb. I assume SSM would stay legal there but it would make it harder for lower courts to rule against bans in states that don’t have it yet. The mass legalization are part of why I think the court will be pressed to legalize it nationally.
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Khal Wimpo Apr 28, 2015 12:18:04pm |
re: #77 lawhawk
Considering that the sums paid out to the affected people comes from the very residents of the community, every time there’s a payout, it costs these residents - the money isn’t coming out of the officer’s paychecks.
And maybe that needs to be changed; that any officer who is determined to have engaged in excessive force, must pay restitution out of their own paycheck and/or lose portion of their retirement/pensions.
Depending on the state, that might require changing the state’s constitution. In many venues, the public pensions are protected from basically everything. It’s the one big level the public has to start getting the attention of law enforcement officers - they all worship at the Sacred Altar of the Pension.
Start making noises about doing a “real world needs assessment” on pensions, and make that retroactive, and the screams of outrage will bounce off the Space Station. And then they’ll pay attention to the demands for cuts to the pensions of the assholes.
It might work. So far in California, we’re having problems taking pensions away from convicted child-molesting teachers. This obviously needs to change, but the unions (and me a good democrat!) won’t budge on this.
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Feline Fearless Leader Apr 28, 2015 12:18:10pm |
re: #83 HappyWarrior
I disagree guys. Scalia doing this is a no brainer but Kennedy was furious when the anti-gay marriage lawyer made some crappy arguments. I think the court will get this one right. I also don’t think Roberts wants go down in history as someone who affirmed modern Jim Crow.
I do wonder how much umbrage these justices take when some lawyer in front of them starts making really crappy and/or illogical arguments. It’s essentially a professional insult to those sitting on the highest court in the land and who have reached what has to be the pinnacle of their legal careers.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:18:25pm |
re: #87 Varek Raith
One of the only teams in any sports I actually watch.
:)
I don’t like Washington teams usually but I am happy about the Wizards.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:18:58pm |
re: #94 Feline Fearless Leader
I do wonder how much umbrage these justices take when some lawyer in front of them starts making really crappy and/or illogical arguments. It’s essentially a professional insult to those sitting on the highest court in the land and who have reached what has to be the pinnacle of their legal careers.
I imagine they get frustrated often. I know I would.
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ObserverArt Apr 28, 2015 12:19:56pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Apr 28, 2015 12:21:00pm |
re: #90 Lord Of The Pies
Nothing. SCOTUS will rule that it’s a “STAITS RATS” issue.
And then also deal with how states that ban same-sex marriage get to deal with people residing in their state that were married in another state. And the other complications from having “this state yes, that state no” status for a legal contract situation.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:21:11pm |
I really do wish would be a no brainer like Brown but I was reminded downstairs that Brown went 9-0 in large part because Warren did his damnedest to ensure it was 9-0. And I imagine it was similar in Loving. Roberts doesn’t have the courage or forward thinking ability that Warren did.
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allegro Apr 28, 2015 12:21:36pm |
re: #69 Eclectic Cyborg
Seems so dumb to have them play in an empty stadium. That will look weird on TV.
Are they going to pipe in pre-recorded cheers and jeers?
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Aunty Entity Dragon Apr 28, 2015 12:22:07pm |
re: #46 lawhawk
Since 2011, Baltimore paid out $5.7 million in excessive force claims.
Keep in mind that Maryland has a $200,000 cap on state liability in state cases.
If Baltimore was in California, that figure would easily double. Long Beach was hit for 6.5 million on one case! (The Zerby police shooting, which still defies belief in how none of the cops are in jail)
Also, that figure does not include the $6,000,000 Baltimore spent on defense counsel.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:23:00pm |
re: #101 allegro
Are they going to pipe in pre-recorded cheers and jeers?
What I wonder is what they’re going to do with all the baseballs that go into the stands. Maybe they won’t get all of them and there will be one by my sea when I go to a game at Camden Yards in May. Still holding out hope that I will get a foul ball one day by any means necessary!
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Feline Fearless Leader Apr 28, 2015 12:23:07pm |
re: #101 allegro
Are they going to pipe in pre-recorded cheers and jeers?
Can probably borrow crowd noise tapes from a few different NFL teams.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:23:32pm |
re: #102 Aunty Entity Dragon
Keep in mind that Maryland has a $200,000 cap on state liability in state cases.
If Baltimore was in California, that figure would easily double. Long Beach was it for 6.5 million on one case! (The Zerby police shooting, which still defies belief in how none of the cops are in jail)
Also, that figure does not include the $6,000,000 Baltimore spent on defense counsel.
But Maryland liberal.//
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allegro Apr 28, 2015 12:29:04pm |
re: #103 HappyWarrior
What I wonder is what they’re going to do with all the baseballs that go into the stands. Maybe they won’t get all of them and there will be one by my sea when I go to a game at Camden Yards in May. Still holding out hope that I will get a foul ball one day by any means necessary!
I’ve only been to a handful of pro baseball games but I almost got one foul ball…. between the eyeballs. Instead I got the knuckles of the guy sitting next to me who was paying attention. Saved me from getting beaned by the ball but I still had two black eyes for the next week.
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HappyWarrior Apr 28, 2015 12:30:59pm |
re: #106 allegro
I’ve only been to a handful of pro baseball games but I almost got one foul ball…. between the eyeballs. Instead I got the knuckles of the guy sitting next to me who was paying attention. Saved me from getting beaned by the ball but I still had two black eyes for the next week.
Been going to games every year since I was 8. No such luck for me yet. I came close at a minor league game once but no such luck.
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Shiplord Kirel Apr 28, 2015 1:29:24pm |
I just went to the FedEx tracking page to check on an incoming package (Atlanta to Mineral Wells) and came across this header:
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CuriousLurker Apr 28, 2015 4:38:26pm |
re: #108 Shiplord Kirel
I just went to the FedEx tracking page to check on an incoming package (Atlanta to Mineral Wells) and came across this header:
[Embedded content]
I’m waiting on a package too (due tomorrow). If you click on the “Learn More” link it takes you to a page with details and a downloadable spreadsheet of the affected zip codes. As far as I can tell it’s only going to affect deliveries in & around Baltimore. Sucks for them, but it shouldn’t affect anyone else.
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