Texas Gov. Abbott Falls For Right Wing Conspiracy Theory, Orders Texas Guard to ‘Monitor’ Planned Military Exercises

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Alex Jones cultists have occupied Austin and taken over the governor’s mind. It should be emphasized that these orders have gone to the STATE Guard, not the Texas National Guard. The State Guard is an unpaid and usually unarmed (though officially sanctioned) volunteer militia.

I’ve noticed an interesting and rather bizarre back narrative in the uproar over this Jade Helm exercise. A lot of the alarmed citizens seem to be unaware that the US military has ever conducted exercises like this in the United States, or that its missiles, tanks, and other equipment have always been stationed, and periodically moved around, in this country. I know it is weird, but what other inference can you draw when people carry on about this being “unprecedented” or various kinds of equipment appearing “suddenly” in locales where it has in fact been visible for years? One conspiraloon spelled it out to me. She threw their standard claim at me that I was only “taking the government’s word for it” when I pointed out that Reese Air Force Base had conducted military training near Lubbock for almost 50 years.

The same propaganda technique, pretending that the familiar and routine is new and sinister, is very much on display in the similar conspiracist uproar over recent ammunition purchases by various federal agencies. Published records show that similar orders have been placed in past years for similar amounts, and this goes back as far as you care to go. Should our 50,000 Coast Guard personnel (who work for DHS) have to buy their own ammunition to maintain the required handgun proficiency? The IRS needs ammunition because some of its field agents are armed and guns are useless without practice. The necessity for this should be obvious to anyone who knows what hard core tax evaders are like.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott is ordering the Texas State Guard to monitor a two-month long U.S. military exercise scheduled to be held in Bastrop County this summer. The move comes amid suspicions from some residents (and the Internet) about the motivations behind the training.

The exercises, designated Operation Jade Helm 15, will involve more than 1,200 soldiers, Marines and others between July 15 and September 15. The military says the exercise is intended to train personnel on acclimating to unfamiliar terrain and climates.

U.S. Army Special Operations Command spokesman, Lieutenant Colonel Mark Lastoria, says the summer months will offer an ideal training climate.

“After driving around Texas all of two weeks ago logging in about 900 miles in less than 48 hours, I can see the terrain is very challenging and is going to make our soldiers sweat,” Lastoria said. “And sweating in peacetime is what we want because we want to reduce the bleeding in wartime.”

On Monday, dozens of people filled the Bastrop County Commissioners Court to voice concerns about the military exercises. Lastoria took a number of questions from people who suspect Jade Helm is something nefarious. Bastrop County resident Daniel DuCloux has some reservations about the training program.

“I think historically, it’s much more common for governments to be tyrannical and infringe on other’s rights,” DuCloux said. “So when you see a large military build-up like this, I think it’s our duty as citizens to question what’s going on and to find answers. I mean, if we don’t, then who will?”

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1 Great White Snark  Apr 28, 2015 6:24:50pm

That’s putting your money where your paranoia is. Wow just wow

2 Dave In Austin  Apr 28, 2015 6:51:49pm
3 Romantic Heretic  Apr 28, 2015 7:57:54pm

Remember when being mentally ill was a barrier to holding public office?

4 majii  Apr 28, 2015 7:59:38pm

Alex Jones is very happy because he’s making lots of money peddling this conspiracy theory. Never mind that he’s made fools out of some of this fellow citizens and has them believing that their own government is out to “get” them. As for Abbott, he’s a pandering ass and always will be. It makes me want to puke when I think about the fact that these are the same individuals who oftentimes speak about “American exceptionalism.” There’s nothing at all exceptional about a nation filled with ignorant asses who never miss an opportunity to make America the laughingstock of the world.

5 Dark_Falcon  Apr 28, 2015 8:35:09pm

re: #3 Romantic Heretic

Remember when being mentally ill was a barrier to holding public office?

I don’t think Abbott mentally ill: He issued the order he did to keep the crazies from deciding to ‘monitor’ the maneuvers themselves. Given how nutty some of the Oathkeeper/Minuteman types are, its better a group Abbott can give orders to indulges them than they indulge themselves.

6 Jenner7  Apr 28, 2015 9:05:43pm

In Ferguson…

7 Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2015 9:07:52pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

You have got to be kidding. This is the same guy who tweeted out a link to Jim Hoft recently, in case you forgot.

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8 Kragar  Apr 28, 2015 9:12:12pm

Nobody tell these guys about “Robin Sage”

Since 1974, Robin Sage, the culmination exercise for the SFQC, has been the litmus test for soldiers striving to earn the coveted Green Beret. (Prior to 1974, similar exercises were held under the name Devil’s Arrow, Swift Strike, and Guerrilla USA.)[9] It is during Robin Sage, held across 15 rural North Carolina counties, that soldiers must put all of the skills they have learned throughout the SFQC to the test in an unconventional-warfare training exercise. The exercise, broken into two phases, puts students on their first SFODA. The SFODA is trained, advised and mentored throughout the entire exercise from mission receipt through planning and infiltration. During the first week, the students are taught the necessary skills to survive and succeed in a UW environment using the small group instruction teaching methodology. The remaining three weeks focus on their planning and application during Robin Sage. The students are placed into an environment of political instability characterized by armed conflict that forces soldiers to exercise both individual and collective problem solving. A key to the success of the Robin Sage training is its real-world feel[citation needed] that is established by the use of guerrilla forces. The SFODA must assess the combat effectiveness of the G-forces, and then train them in basic individual tasks from each of the MOSs as well as collective tasks in basic small-unit tactics, while remaining responsive to asymmetrical challenges. Just as language plays a key role in all other phases of the pipeline, language skills will be put to the test during Robin Sage. During this training, the SFODA must demonstrate its knowledge of UW doctrine and operational techniques.
The 15 counties that make up the People’s Republic of Pineland

On the last day of isolation the detachment presents its plan to the battalion command and staff. This plan will explain how the commander intends to execute the mission. The next day, the students make an airborne infiltration into the fictitious country of “Pineland”. They then make contact with the guerrilla forces and begin Robin Sage. Students will then begin their task of training, advising, and assisting the guerrillas. The training will educate the guerrillas in various specialties, including weapons, communications, medical, and demolitions. The training is designed to enable the guerrillas to begin liberating their country from oppression. It is the last portion of the Special Forces Qualification Course before they receive their “Green Berets”.

ROBIN SAGE involves approximately 100 Special Forces students, 100 counter-insurgent personnel (OPFOR), 200 guerrilla personnel, 40 auxiliary personnel, and 50 cadre. The local communities of North Carolina also participate in the exercise by role playing as citizens of Pineland.[10] The exercise is conducted in approximately 50,000 square miles (130,000 km2) of North Carolina. Many of the OPFOR and guerrilla personnel are made up of North Carolina residents who are financially compensated for their participation.[11] The role of the guerrilla chief, “G-chief,” is sometimes played by a retired Green Beret. In previous years, during the summer Robin Sage exercises, Army ROTC cadets acted as the OPFOR or guerrilla fighters.[12] Participation of AROTC cadets in Robin Sage has not taken place since summer of 2009.

9 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2015 9:12:18pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

Stop. Making. Excuses. For. This. Fucking. Ignorance.

10 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Apr 28, 2015 9:14:21pm

A note to Charles: I saw a GoDaddy commercial encouraging people to register for .co domains. I don’t know how much it costs but you may need to reserve littlegreenfootballs.co before somebody else does.

11 Kragar  Apr 28, 2015 9:21:07pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

Yes, it makes perfect sense to indulge in the psychotic fever dreams of the lunatic fringe, especially when that is the only way you can guarantee their votes.

12 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Apr 28, 2015 9:21:25pm

re: #3 Romantic Heretic

Remember when being mentally ill was a barrier to holding public office?

I’m not really happy about the “mentally ill” wisecrack. I’m not going to get hyper and express outrage or anything like that but please reconsider in the future. I mean, I want to say “What is he, nuts?” because I just can’t express his stupidity and cowardice strongly enough.

13 Kragar  Apr 28, 2015 9:22:15pm

Let the Oathkeepers “monitor” on their own, then face the consequences of trespassing and interfering with military operations.

14 Jenner7  Apr 28, 2015 9:23:14pm

What the bloody hell was that?

15 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Apr 28, 2015 9:23:44pm

Hey, if an M-1 runs over a minivan parked near the highway, oopsy daisy

16 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 28, 2015 9:24:36pm

Well gang, I’m off to curl up under a flat rock and get some sleep. Have a good evening, and try to not let the insanity affect you too much.

RBS

17 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Apr 28, 2015 9:25:08pm

re: #16 RealityBasedSteve

Best wishes on the new job!

18 austin_blue  Apr 28, 2015 9:26:32pm

“Did you hear the Black Helicopters over your house let night?”

“No, Alex, I didn’t.”

“SEE?!?!?!?!?!”

There’s a certain kind of rural Texas wingnut/teabagger that makes any other individual wingnut/teabagger appear lucid, sane, and reasonable.

These are Alex Jones’ homies. A lot of them live in Bastrop County, just east of Austin, and they are collectively as crazy as shithouse rats.

A good source of entertainment, though. Given that we are in the middle of a Legislative Session (which, thankfully, only occurs every two years in Texas when little villages across the length and breadth of Texas send their idiots to my fair city) his reaction is absolutely reasonable, given the insanity surrounding any civil discourse.

He’s just covering his chair confined ass.

19 blueraven  Apr 28, 2015 9:27:36pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

I don’t think Abbott mentally ill: He issued the order he did to keep the crazies from deciding to ‘monitor’ the maneuvers themselves. Given how nutty some of the Oathkeeper/Minuteman types are, its better a group Abbott can give orders to indulges them than they indulge themselves.

Seriously? Abbott panders to the nut jobs and you think that is a sane move for the Governor of the Great state of Texas? It is sick. Perry was bad enough, but Abbott is even more of a fool.

20 dell*nix  Apr 28, 2015 9:28:02pm

This photo was taken at Reese AFB at Lubbock, Texas about 1950. This was taken about the same year my step-father met my mother in Lubbock. Note the B-29 in the back ground. Some folks are so unaware of local military history.

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21 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Apr 28, 2015 9:30:46pm

I can’t possibly imagine how the Texas Guard is going to reassure anybody that the maneuvers are legit. It’s probably stocked with the same idiots who called on Abbot to begin with.

22 EPR-radar  Apr 28, 2015 9:34:16pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

I don’t think Abbott mentally ill: He issued the order he did to keep the crazies from deciding to ‘monitor’ the maneuvers themselves. Given how nutty some of the Oathkeeper/Minuteman types are, its better a group Abbott can give orders to indulges them than they indulge themselves.

What would be helpful is if Abbott were to call out the bad craziness for what it is. That might actually penetrate the solid bone these tea bagging idiots have above their necks, since God knows they won’t listen to anyone deemed a ‘liberal’.

However, this is merely a fantasy, since no GOPer has confronted the bad craziness of the GOP in a very long time.

23 austin_blue  Apr 28, 2015 9:36:35pm

re: #20 dell*nix

This photo was taken at Reese AFB at Lubbock, Texas about 1950. This was taken about the same year my step-father met my mother in Lubbock. Note the B-29 in the back ground. Some folks are so unaware of local military history.

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Not sure, but I think that might be a KB-50 tanker. Reese went to the Air Force Training Command in 1949 and any Heavies would be transient or associated with pilot training.

24 freetoken  Apr 28, 2015 9:40:03pm

So, what about all that fluoride they’re putting in the water in Texas?

25 austin_blue  Apr 28, 2015 9:40:46pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

What would be helpful is if Abbott were to call out the bad craziness for what it is. That might actually penetrate the solid bone these tea bagging idiots have above their necks, since God knows they won’t listen to anyone deemed a ‘liberal’.

However, this is merely a fantasy, since no GOPer has confronted the bad craziness of the GOP in a very long time.

This.

26 teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2015 9:42:05pm

Greg Abbott’s term as governor has just started. Who knows what other batshit crazy thing he’ll do next! I’m surprised he hasn’t mobilized the Texas Guard on the border to thwart ISIS.

27 austin_blue  Apr 28, 2015 9:42:08pm

re: #24 freetoken

So, what about all that fluoride they’re putting in the water in Texas?

“Ice cream, Mandrake. Little children’s ice cream.”

28 teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2015 9:43:55pm

re: #27 austin_blue

When someone asks me what my favorite movie is, I always say Dr. Strangelove. “Oh yeah? What’s that?” they always ask.

“It’s a comedy. It’s about nuclear war.”

29 Kragar  Apr 28, 2015 9:52:05pm
30 teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2015 9:52:23pm
31 dell*nix  Apr 28, 2015 9:53:16pm

re: #23 austin_blue

It could be a KB-50. I have a couple more pics taken at the aircraft itself. Will have to get those scanned. There were a lot of training fields built during WW II that have faded into the background as those that worked there have moved away or passed on.

I participated as a weather observer in Army war games in Louisiana in 1977. There was a bombing range at Melrose, New Mexico. The F-111s from Cannon AFB used it all the time. When I was at Carswell AFB in 1966, we had three ORI’s. On one the crew scored a drop in the Atlantic. Missed the state of South Carolina completely.

32 teleskiguy  Apr 28, 2015 9:58:22pm

Hey skiing lizards! I read this today and I thought it to be magnificent internet spewage.

The wicket wasn’t just a way to fasten a ticket. For more than three decades, it was the only way. But the wicket is so much more than a sticker-hanger. This thin metal strand has always been the first, and often the last thing skiers reach for when a MacGyver situation arises. It has worked as zipper pulls, hinge pins on boot buckles, and the little screws that hold sunglasses together; fixed snowboard and telemark bindings and cleaned out pipes; lanced blisters and blackened toe nails, and held the olives in off-piste martinis. It has stepped in when skiers needed a fondue fork or to hotwire a ‘67 Mustang. It’s been a TV antenna, opened the SIM card slot on cell phones, restarted computers, and held the needle in place on turntables. And really, is anything cuter than a girl playfully wearing wickets as earrings while working the ski shop floor?

But alas, over the last 10 years the wicket, a half-century-long product of the Hanley Ticket Assembly, has rapidly been replaced by zip ties and RFID cards—cheap, valuable tools for hanging plastic or tracking skier numbers, but useless for virtually anything else.

33 Lidane  Apr 28, 2015 9:58:37pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

Except for the fact that Greg Abbott is Rick Perry’s dumber, more batshit insane successor, sure. He BELIEVES this bullshit, Dark. He’s no different than the rednecks he’s pandering to.

It’s been demonstrably proven that ever since Ann Richards left office, our governors here in Texas have gotten stupider and more paranoid as time goes on.

34 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2015 10:00:15pm

re: #29 Kragar

Someone better grab video of that.

35 Kragar  Apr 28, 2015 10:06:11pm
36 Joe Bacon  Apr 28, 2015 10:10:55pm

re: #2 Dave In Austin

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I see that the Tex Ass Holes were out in force.

37 dell*nix  Apr 28, 2015 10:12:22pm

re: #33 Lidane

Abbott and most of the state lege would fit as inmates in a revived state insane asylum.

38 SteelPH  Apr 28, 2015 10:12:23pm

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

You really can not stop with the excuse-making, can you?

39 austin_blue  Apr 28, 2015 10:26:53pm

Sleepy time.

Night, Lizards! Sweet scaly dreams.

40 Kragar  Apr 28, 2015 10:39:01pm
41 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 28, 2015 10:42:56pm

re: #20 dell*nix

This photo was taken at Reese AFB at Lubbock, Texas about 1950. This was taken about the same year my step-father met my mother in Lubbock. Note the B-29 in the back ground. Some folks are so unaware of local military history.

flickr.com

My parents met at Reese in 1948 though I was actually born in England the following year.

42 dell*nix  Apr 28, 2015 11:14:46pm

re: #41 Shiplord Kirel

I started school in Lubbock. As I dimly recall it was not a friendly place.

43 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 12:05:29am

re: #22 EPR-radar

What would be helpful is if Abbott were to call out the bad craziness for what it is. That might actually penetrate the solid bone these tea bagging idiots have above their necks, since God knows they won’t listen to anyone deemed a ‘liberal’.

However, this is merely a fantasy, since no GOPer has confronted the bad craziness of the GOP in a very long time.

GOP leaders were all afraid of being shouted down at a town hall meeting by some goombah in a tricorne hat holding a Gadsen flag. now these very people are determining policy in the party…

44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 29, 2015 1:08:52am

Remember these are the same gomers who thought the 2010 census was a new and unprecedented outrage, dreamed up by Obama to tag conservatives for internment in FEMA camps. Tell them that the same thing has happened every 10 years since 1790 as required by the constitution, and they scream “LIES!!” These people are unreachable.

45 Frenchy  Apr 29, 2015 1:55:22am

Slow on the uptake, but the thread-before-last reminded me of this:

Guess we can reset the counter to 0 now. (Credit to Married to the Sea.)

46 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 3:10:19am

My grandson, with whom I sometimes have contentious arguments about politics (he’s 24): “What we have in this country are more confident, but stupid, people.”

I can’t necessarily disagree with him about that when you’re looking at the internet and the kinds of reactionaries we’re seeing, but he also generalizes about politicians, none of whom he thinks is not a crook, including Pres Obama who he’s convinced is getting rich from being president. He disagrees with “Obamacare” and possibly having to pay a “fine” for not having insurance, even though his own mother gets ins for $20/mo. Unfortunately, he’s around a lot of “anti-Obama”, racist types (a huge disadvantage in living here), although he himself doesn’t consider himeslf racist—he wasnt brought up that way. He thinks voting is just spinning one’s wheels, because “all politicians are alike.” He understands neither compromise nor nuance. This is where we part ways. I really can’t figure out what kind of politics he holds, just that he has a pretty shitty attitude toward govt and doesn’t think it’s worth voting or trying to change it at all. I think he also has the same attitude many uneducated and uninformed millennials have, and there are more than you think.

He thinks the Constitution should be destroyed and we should start all over and we can have more “equality” then. He thinks the 2 major parties have a hold over us and that we should have a “parliamentary” style govt instead where every party has a chance. Like many young people, he has no patience for the slow grinding of our govt, and while he realizes his chances of “success” in an uber capitalist society are pretty damned limited, he still sort of clings to the idea that anyone can “make it” in this society while harboring the fear that he won’t, no matter how hard he works. Hope and cynicism at the same time and a bundle of contradictions with an almost anarchistic attitude. I don’t necessarily disagree with all his criticisms, but he hasn’t really thought beyond them for any real solutions.

It makes me want to tear my hair out, but he’s young and I truly hope he’s not developing a fixed attitude and will change his position as he matures. He’s a good person at heart but thinks he has to be “tough” all the time and is still picking up clues from others who don’t know any better than he does—his peers.

47 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 3:21:38am

Sure, take all the credit. It’s not as though community leaders haven’t tried to tamp down the anger and figure out better soutions, and they’ve done a better job of it without official “power” and practically no resources.

Police in Baltimore credit overnight curfew with there being only minor unrest tonight - @abc

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(The video just repeats the violence of Mon night and doesn’t differentiate between actual protestors and opportunistic types who did all the damage.)

48 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 3:26:55am
49 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 3:34:01am
50 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2015 3:46:35am

re: #15 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

Hey, if an M-1 runs over a minivan parked near the highway, oopsy daisy

Dangit, Dale, you hit the curb.
- King of the Hill

51 palomino  Apr 29, 2015 3:50:37am

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

I don’t think Abbott mentally ill: He issued the order he did to keep the crazies from deciding to ‘monitor’ the maneuvers themselves. Given how nutty some of the Oathkeeper/Minuteman types are, its better a group Abbott can give orders to indulges them than they indulge themselves.

So you’re saying the Gov isn’t crazy. He’s just a pussy who caves in to the demands of the crazies. How is that any better?

52 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Apr 29, 2015 4:05:02am

and all this because a black guy is in the White House.

Growing up down there, I am not the least bit suprised.

53 Frenchy  Apr 29, 2015 4:07:57am

re: #29 Kragar

Well the BPD seem to be quite the group of criminals themselves so the tweet is not really inaccurate.
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54 Thanos  Apr 29, 2015 4:09:43am

Military ops have been conducted in Alaska for a long time, they used to invite elite units from foreign military to participated in them as well. I think the last one was 2009, and at that one the Wingnut’s favorite half Governor participated as well.

en.wikipedia.org

55 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2015 4:34:29am

Anyone ever see a train hauling tanks?
Awesome shit.
/UNPRECEDENTED!

56 William Lewis  Apr 29, 2015 4:38:05am

So overnight ATT rolled out android 5.0.1 to my Galaxy S4.

First impression: Fugly. The candy color scheme is painful to look at.

Second impression: battery life is doing a good impression of a cement block off of a bridge.

Third impression : at least LGF is running better and overall speed is better.

Not sure the speed bump is worth the other two issues though…

57 Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2015 4:41:10am

re: #54 Thanos

Military ops have been conducted in Alaska for a long time, they used to invite elite units from foreign military to participated in them as well. I think the last one was 2009, and at that one the Wingnut’s favorite half Governor participated as well.

This…….
I participated in annual Jack Frost field problems for 2 year in Fairbanks. We issued TOE to Rangers, Seal, and SF forces. This was in the late 70’s. At that time the pipeline was being built. That was always the center of the games. The residents always welcomed us with open arms.

en.wikipedia.org

58 William Lewis  Apr 29, 2015 4:42:26am

re: #55 Varek Raith

Anyone ever see a train hauling tanks?
Awesome shit.
/UNPRECEDENTED!

I used to hate railheads. It was a pain to drive the tank all the way to your flatcar and then chain it down. Then do it in reverse at the other end. Long road trips were more fun but they wear the tanks too much so the train remains best for long distance runarounds.

59 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2015 4:53:42am

As some of you know, I recently trekked down to see a bunch of Civil War battlefields in Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Virginia. Well, wouldn’t you know it, the subject of military actions and exercises came up?

The Army used to conduct military exercises at some of the battlefields before the land was transferred from the War Department to the National Park service as a national battlefield park. This was particularly true at Antietam.

But to think that the US government didn’t conduct military exercises inside the US is just plain nuts. After all, there are major facilities around the nation even today that are used for training purposes. Heck, they’ve entered into the lexicon for what they represent. Top Gun (first at/over Miramar and associated military facilities). Area 51/Groom Lake (for testing/operating black aircraft). Fort Knox (while known for gold repository, it was a major armored vehicle school). Heck, even locally you had Fort Monmouth, Fort Dix, and Fort Drum where major exercises were held regularly (Fort Drum regularly ran winter exercises to address fighting Cold War opponents in winter conditions).

The whole notion that this exercise is somehow different or ominous speaks to just how nuts the fringe is, and how disconnected many people are from the military (since the percentage of those serving is at its lowest point in decades).

60 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 4:54:38am
61 Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2015 4:57:36am

re: #58 William Barnett-Lewis

I used to hate railheads. It was a pain to drive the tank all the way to your flatcar and then chain it down. Then do it in reverse at the other end. Long road trips were more fun but they wear the tanks too much so the train remains best for long distance runarounds.

Railheads are nowhere near as much fun as a 3-day WASHEX.

62 Lidane  Apr 29, 2015 5:02:51am

re: #60 Lord Of The Pies

A related anecdote from work: The other day I saw a press release laying around that had come out during the 2014 election. It was for a state proposition (which passed) that was concerned with additional infrastructure funding for Texas. I don’t remember the exact wording, but the press release whined about how the funding gap they were trying to fill existed because of “stagnant revenue sources” that haven’t gone up in over 20 years.

Gee. It’s almost as if no state income tax and a constant feeding frenzy of tax cuts would lead to a funding gap for basic services. Who knew?

63 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 5:04:29am

re: #62 Lidane

A related anecdote from work: The other day I saw a press release laying around that had come out during the 2014 election. It was for a state proposition (which passed) that was concerned with additional infrastructure funding for Texas. I don’t remember the exact wording, but the press release whined about how the funding gap they were trying to fill existed because of “stagnant revenue sources” that haven’t gone up in over 20 years.

Gee. It’s almost as if no state income tax and a constant feeding frenzy of tax cuts would lead to a funding gap for basic services. Who knew?

“Tax cuts for the Rich” are a uniquely Republican method of “solving everything”

64 Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2015 5:07:29am

re: #62 Lidane

Replace “Trickle Down” with “Pissing Away”…..

65 Frenchy  Apr 29, 2015 5:10:02am

re: #63 Lord Of The Pies

It is literally the ONLY play in their economic playbook.

66 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 5:21:55am

ONE BAD COP DOESN’T MEAN A WHOLE DEPARTMENT, BUT ALL TEH BLACKS AR3 TEH LOOTERS & TEH RIOTERS!!!!! TAKE AWAY ALL THERE WELFARES!!!!!!!

67 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 5:24:14am

re: #66 Lord Of The Pies

ONE BAD COP DOESN’T MEAN A WHOLE DEPARTMENT, BUT ALL TEH BLACKS AR3 TEH LOOTERS & TEH RIOTERS!!!!! TAKE AWAY ALL THERE WELFARES!!!!!!!

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Perhaps this uninformed idiot should read this: data.baltimoresun.com

OTOH, nevermind; her mind is “Fixed” already.

68 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 5:29:41am

re: #62 Lidane

A related anecdote from work: The other day I saw a press release laying around that had come out during the 2014 election. It was for a state proposition (which passed) that was concerned with additional infrastructure funding for Texas. I don’t remember the exact wording, but the press release whined about how the funding gap they were trying to fill existed because of “stagnant revenue sources” that haven’t gone up in over 20 years.

Gee. It’s almost as if no state income tax and a constant feeding frenzy of tax cuts would lead to a funding gap for basic services. Who knew?

That’s hitting home on Long Island in a big way nowadays - the Islanders, who have finally gotten back to being a real hockey team, are leaving the Nassau Coliseum and moving to Barclay Center in Brooklyn next season because the ‘don’t raise my taxes’ crowd wouldn’t spring for improvements to the aging Coliseum.

Nassau County itself has been so ineptly managed that despite having one of the highest median incomes in the country, it nearly went bankrupt in the 90s and financial oversight was taken over by the state in 2011 because even with all that money, the low-tax utopia was unable to balance its own budget.

69 William Lewis  Apr 29, 2015 5:37:13am

re: #61 Decatur Deb

Railheads are nowhere near as much fun as a 3-day WASHEX.

Oh, yeah. Even more fun in Germany where the washrack water supply was non-potable. You really didn’t want to swallow any of it even by accident. Especially since our base was ex-WWII era Luftwaffe.

70 De Kolta Chair  Apr 29, 2015 5:39:00am

I suggest that Abbott also deploy the Texas State Air Force to seek and destroy all those blankety-blank chemtrails.

71 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 5:39:39am

Corporate types have something else to hate now.

SEC set to propose new rules on executive compensation

marketwatch.com

I’m not entirely sure stock holder votes are necessarily going to change a whole lot much, but when you consider that the CEO of Disney made 2000x more than the avg Disney worker (something like his $44M last year compared to the less than $20K avg for workers), maybe, just maybe, those compensations will open up some eyes about the vast income gap in the US and how lowered and stagnating wages for years have led this country to the fundamental unrest we’re seeing and the rise in actual poverty.

Something needs to be done in a fundamental way to not only alleviate poverty and return jobs to those seeking them when workers are far more productive in 2015 than ever, and to provide a living wage, along with increases in existing wages if we’re ever going to get back on track as a country. Stop paying executives for robbing workers, pay them only what they’re worth—which is nothing like the multi-millions they are given every year. Erase this huge gap and stop coddling these privileged thieves.

72 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 5:42:29am

It’s not the fucking weather.

US economy grows at 0.2% rate in Q1 affected by harsh weather - @Reuters
end of alert

73 Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2015 5:43:53am

re: #69 William Barnett-Lewis

Oh, yeah. Even more fun in Germany where the washrack water supply was non-potable. You really didn’t want to swallow any of it even by accident. Especially since our base was ex-WWII era Luftwaffe.

Ours were in Turkey, with 7th Army Customs guys sent down to supervise. We damn near sucked Thrace dry to get rid of a snail that freaks the USDA. Took about 3 days per company of 24ID armor, two weeks to do the whole slice. Never did find out who certified the portable washracks, originally welded up for M-60s.

74 De Kolta Chair  Apr 29, 2015 5:47:17am

re: #48 Justanotherhuman

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To be fair, that was in 2013. Young Master of the Universe William was recently cited for DUI, for the second time if memory serves.

75 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 5:47:21am

Tammy Baldwin at work, showing another way of how companies squander profits instead of paying workers a just compensation.

How To Stop Companies From Giving All Their Money To Wall Street Instead Of Workers

thinkprogress.org

“Last week, Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) sent a letter to the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) about the growing trend of companies giving money to investors through stock buybacks, rather than investing in workers or equipment.

“Workers’ wages are currently growing at the slowest pace since the 1960s, despite healthy corporate profits and increasing productivity. A big part of that disconnect is that companies are spending nearly all of their profits on stock buybacks and dividends, which serve to enrich shareholders, leaving little room to increase pay or make any other long-term investments.” More

76 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 5:48:17am

re: #41 Shiplord Kirel

My parents met at Reese in 1948 though I was actually born in England the following year.

My brother went to grad school at Texas Tech, and got married over in Kermit, TX. He would remark about the B-1s doing low-level work in the area around Lubbock.

77 Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2015 5:49:46am

re: #74 De Kolta Chair

To be fair, that was in 2013. Young Master of the Universe William was recently cited for DUI, for the second time if memory serves.

Check deeper—it was drugs and B&E this time, which could be the 7th bust depending on how you count and who you believe.

78 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 5:52:22am

Freddie Gray’s neighborhood, repeated in many areas of the country, truly trapped in poverty.

The Economic Devastation Fueling The Anger In Baltimore

thinkprogress.org

79 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 5:53:44am

re: #46 Justanotherhuman

My grandson, with whom I sometimes have contentious arguments about politics (he’s 24): “What we have in this country are more confident, but stupid, people.”

I can’t necessarily disagree with him about that when you’re looking at the internet and the kinds of reactionaries we’re seeing, but he also generalizes about politicians, none of whom he thinks is not a crook, including Pres Obama who he’s convinced is getting rich from being president. He disagrees with “Obamacare” and possibly having to pay a “fine” for not having insurance, even though his own mother gets ins for $20/mo. Unfortunately, he’s around a lot of “anti-Obama”, racist types (a huge disadvantage in living here), although he himself doesn’t consider himeslf racist—he wasnt brought up that way. He thinks voting is just spinning one’s wheels, because “all politicians are alike.” He understands neither compromise nor nuance. This is where we part ways. I really can’t figure out what kind of politics he holds, just that he has a pretty shitty attitude toward govt and doesn’t think it’s worth voting or trying to change it at all. I think he also has the same attitude many uneducated and uninformed millennials have, and there are more than you think.

He thinks the Constitution should be destroyed and we should start all over and we can have more “equality” then. He thinks the 2 major parties have a hold over us and that we should have a “parliamentary” style govt instead where every party has a chance. Like many young people, he has no patience for the slow grinding of our govt, and while he realizes his chances of “success” in an uber capitalist society are pretty damned limited, he still sort of clings to the idea that anyone can “make it” in this society while harboring the fear that he won’t, no matter how hard he works. Hope and cynicism at the same time and a bundle of contradictions with an almost anarchistic attitude. I don’t necessarily disagree with all his criticisms, but he hasn’t really thought beyond them for any real solutions.

It makes me want to tear my hair out, but he’s young and I truly hope he’s not developing a fixed attitude and will change his position as he matures. He’s a good person at heart but thinks he has to be “tough” all the time and is still picking up clues from others who don’t know any better than he does—his peers.

I know a bunch of people like that. And some think that me bringing up political stuff now and then is annoying and simply partisan GOP bashing.

My opinion, not yet expressed to a few of them, is that *they* should be the ones massively concerned since they have the small children that will need to be raised in the current anti-education environment and who will be living in the environment fully affected by global warming and our goofball domestic and foreign policy.

80 Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2015 5:54:44am

re: #77 Decatur Deb

Check deeper—it was drugs and B&E this time, which could be the 7th bust depending on how you count and who you believe.

Sorry my error—that’s the son of Roy Moore, Chief Justice of the AL Supremes. Sometimes the assholes blur together.

81 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 5:56:54am

re: #74 De Kolta Chair

I’m not going to be “fair” with this little miscreant when his Daddy has the means to do better, yet would make it worse for tens of millions of others.

It’s not as though they live in poverty and have no other alternatives.

If his parents take his misdeeds down to the level of his having “substance abuse problems”, etc, then I want to see that same attitude afforded those who don’t get that kind of consideration.

82 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 5:56:59am

re: #51 palomino

So you’re saying the Gov isn’t crazy. He’s just a pussy who caves in to the demands of the crazies. How is that any better?

Arguably worse since the crazies are actually acting on their honestly held (though insane) beliefs. The other is simply a mercenary hack who will bend whichever way the wind (or money) blows for personal gain and power.

Hard to respect or trust a person with no integrity or character. They are clearly not acting in the interests of the community and citizens thereof.

83 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 5:57:56am

re: #79 Feline Fearless Leader

I try, believe me, I try. : /

84 De Kolta Chair  Apr 29, 2015 5:58:23am

re: #77 Decatur Deb

Check deeper—it was drugs and B&E this time, which could be the 7th bust depending on how you count and who you believe.

Could you provide a link, Deb? My Googletron is coming up empty on drugs and that many priors. ;-)

85 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 5:59:41am

re: #70 De Kolta Chair

I suggest that Abbott should also deploy the Texas State Air Force to seek and destroy all those blankety-blank chemtrails.

Maybe they can borrow Utah’s aircraft carrier.
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86 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Apr 29, 2015 6:00:15am

re: #31 dell*nix

It could be a KB-50. I have a couple more pics taken at the aircraft itself. Will have to get those scanned. There were a lot of training fields built during WW II that have faded into the background as those that worked there have moved away or passed on.

I participated as a weather observer in Army war games in Louisiana in 1977. There was a bombing range at Melrose, New Mexico. The F-111s from Cannon AFB used it all the time. When I was at Carswell AFB in 1966, we had three ORI’s. On one the crew scored a drop in the Atlantic. Missed the state of South Carolina completely.

I think the 50’s had big intakes in the bottom of the nacelles.

87 Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2015 6:00:43am

re: #84 De Kolta Chair

Could you provide a link, Deb? My Googletron is coming up empty on drugs and that many priors. ;-)

Caught that on backcheck—#80. Here’s the Moore case:

al.com

88 Frenchy  Apr 29, 2015 6:04:02am

re: #68 makeitstop

But lower taxes means more revenue!!1!

89 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2015 6:06:38am

So, we’re supposed to consider the mom assaulting this person, who turns out to be her son, a hero and that her actions should be lauded? In one sense, yes - because she’s taking it upon herself to get her son out of harms’ way and to try and instill a sense of right and wrong. She wasn’t going to let her son get arrested or treated the way Freddie Gray was and end up as yet another statistics.

But in another sense, no - because she should have been doing that parenting well before the protests turned into riots the other day, and her assaulting her son could just have easily turned into yet more arrests by the BPD for criminal activity. She should have instilled that sense of right and wrong and the sense to understand the distinction between the two well before the protests, and that to take up force against the police would mean and excuse law enforcement force against him at a time when it is clearly established that the BPD has a reckless disregard for public safety with these nickel rides and doesn’t care about the lives of those living in the communities it polices.

I’ve been saying this for a while, but Ferguson wasn’t an isolated event. Communities across the nation face the same problems with racial profiling and excessive force by police, but there isn’t enough political pressure to reform the system - both on the policing end (to end racial profiling and limit excessive force incidents, especially deadly force) and on the justice system end (requiring political action to reform the laws on justified use of force, prosecuting cops who engage in excessive force, etc.)

90 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:08:13am
The State Guard is an unpaid and usually unarmed (though officially sanctioned) volunteer militia.

Well then, these fine folks should be able to handle the fictitious Jade Helm 15 or whoever they are.

91 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:10:11am

re: #89 lawhawk

Yeah I’m outta f0cks to give Wolf Blitzer, the NY Post and the rest of them, complaining about certain kinds of violence, serving as the police state’s mouthpieces.

92 De Kolta Chair  Apr 29, 2015 6:10:47am

re: #87 Decatur Deb

Caught that on backcheck—#80. Here’s the Moore case:

al.com

He was set up by the atheists AND SATAN!!!!11!!

93 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:12:41am

re: #66 Lord Of The Pies

@CNN @BarackObama : One bad cop doesn’t mean a whole department Obama. Take away wefare and force them to work. #BaltimoreRiots #tcot
— Sharon(Cooki)Wilcox

Nope, ain’t got no time for this derper, either.

94 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 6:12:45am

No, I don’t think you did. And you also lowered the charges on him. You exercised some pretty transparent preferential treatment when he told you “who he was”, in spite of his attitude. Would you have treated a poor person the same? Really?

Lexington police on arrest of Sen. Rand Paul’s son: “We did what we always do”

wkyt.com

When someone refuses to take the test, a DUI becomes an aggravated offense, which makes them subject to stiffer penalties, particularly for someone’s first offense. They could lose their driver’s license after their first court appearance, and be without it until a plea is entered in the case. That would eliminate them from receiving any special privileges, such as driving to and from work or other special circumstances approved by a judge. And, if convicted, their sentence could be doubled, Blanton said.

“William Paul’s charge is listed as a first offense DUI.”

You can bet it won’t be this privileged ass’s last offense. And I wouldn’t be surprised if his charges were further lowered.

They wouldn’t want to “ruin a young man’s future chances”, particular this young man’s future chances.

95 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Apr 29, 2015 6:13:02am

re: #76 Feline Fearless Leader

My brother went to grad school at Texas Tech, and got married over in Kermit, TX. He would remark about the B-1s doing low-level work in the area around Lubbock.

One of my old employees was in the Air Force in England. He said you could hear a B-36 at least a half hour before you could see it.
Another was an Avenger turret gunner in George Bush’s squadron. He never had to fire his gun at an enemy plane (which was fine with him because the plane shook so hard he wouldn’t be able to hit anything.) He also said the worst part of any mission was landing. He wasn’t on one of those giant Essex carriers, they had to hit the deck of a little jeep carrier.
Another was a drill instructor transferred to the USAF from the Army when it was established. He hated the change from training soldiers to training mechanics and clerks.

96 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 6:15:02am

re: #65 Frenchy

It is literally the ONLY play in their economic playbook.

There is no guarantee that those tax cuts are going to be invested in domestic job creation. Capital tends to follow the highest rate of return, and if those returns are greater in countries with no labor laws, employee safety or environmental regulations, that’s where the jobs are going to be created.

97 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:16:24am

re: #44 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Remember these are the same gomers who thought the 2010 census was a new and unprecedented outrage, dreamed up by Obama to tag conservatives for internment in FEMA camps. Tell them that the same thing has happened every 10 years since 1790 as required by the constitution, and they scream “LIES!!” These people are unreachable.

I’m still confused as to why the teabag partiers, who were upset about DHS purchasing ammunition, are either gung-ho or silent as Humvees and foreign (out of state) troops occupy a major US city.

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98 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Apr 29, 2015 6:16:53am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Tax cuts are going to have to be repaid in the long run anyway. It disgusts me to see the bill for the deficit get passed to our descendants, who will have more than enough of our shortcomings to deal with.

99 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 6:18:04am

I had a little Twitter slapfight with a Brownback fanboy. So much stupids, I muted it.

100 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Apr 29, 2015 6:18:47am

re: #97 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I’m still confused as to why the teabag partiers, who were upset about DHS purchasing ammunition, are either gung-ho or silent as Humvees and foreign (out of state) troops occupy a major US city.

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I think an out of state policeman would be in the worst possible position to be put into crowd control in another state. You would have command problems for starters.

101 De Kolta Chair  Apr 29, 2015 6:22:38am

Laugh all you want, libruls, but look what the State Guard just found near Austin in the Pilot Knob volcano!!1!!

102 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 6:22:55am

re: #86 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I think the 50’s had big intakes in the bottom of the nacelles.

Correct: the B50 was fitted with Pratt&Whitney’s magnificent R4360 vs the B29’s P&W R3350. That required slightly redesigning the engine nacelles. The B50 was also a big longer and had a taller vertical stabilizer.The KB50 tanker added two jet engines on pylons outboard and streamlined drop tanks also on pylons.

103 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 6:23:45am

Baltimore protester Joseph Kent ‘kidnapped by police’ on live TV

mashable.com

A well-known protester was arrested after curfew on Tuesday night in Baltimore as CNN’s cameras rolled, and many want to know his fate.

Joseph Kent, a 21-year-old student at Morgan State University who rose to local prominence during the Michael Brown protests, was seen on live television standing with his hands in the air alongside a line of riot gear-clad police officers just before 11 p.m. Moments later, a National Guard humvee rolled up, and a swarm of officers swallowed Kent. The vehicle blocked the camera’s view of the arrest.

Protesters both in Baltimore and watching at home were shocked at the sudden and over-the-top nature of the arrest, and they shared the clip widely. More

104 Alyosha  Apr 29, 2015 6:24:00am

Well, my divorce papers came through today.

105 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 6:25:12am

re: #95 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

One of my old employees was in the Air Force in England. He said you could hear a B-36 at least a half hour before you could see it.
Another was an Avenger turret gunner in George Bush’s squadron. He never had to fire his gun at an enemy plane (which was fine with him because the plane shook so hard he wouldn’t be able to hit anything.) He also said the worst part of any mission was landing. He wasn’t on one of those giant Essex carriers, they had to hit the deck of a little jeep carrier.
Another was a drill instructor transferred to the USAF from the Army when it was established. He hated the change from training soldiers to training mechanics and clerks.

I noticed when in the Naval Aviation museum in Pensacola that the TBM/TBF Avenger sitting on a pseudo flight deck (a CVL) was painted up as George’s plane.

And the smaller flight deck of the CVEs is one reason they flew Wildcats off of them rather than Hellcats.

106 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:25:36am

NYT Op-ed (may be behind firewall):

And it’s about more than just the cops. We’ve watched as Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, in conjunction with Police Commissioner Anthony W. Batts, spent over a week investigating what appears to be an open-and-shut case. I’d like to think that if I broke a person’s neck for no reason, I’d be charged in minutes. But the system — even when it’s run by a black mayor and a black commissioner, even when a majority of the City Council is black — protects the police, no matter how blatant and brutal they are.

(snip)

We are all starting to believe that holding hands, following pastors and peaceful protests are pointless. The only option is to rise up, and force Mayor Rawlings-Blake to make what should be an easy choice: Stop protecting the livelihoods of the cops who killed Freddie Gray, or watch Baltimore burn to the ground.

107 ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2015 6:25:45am

re: #46 Justanotherhuman

My grandson, with whom I sometimes have contentious arguments about politics (he’s 24): “What we have in this country are more confident, but stupid, people.”

I can’t necessarily disagree with him about that when you’re looking at the internet and the kinds of reactionaries we’re seeing, but he also generalizes about politicians, none of whom he thinks is not a crook, including Pres Obama who he’s convinced is getting rich from being president. He disagrees with “Obamacare” and possibly having to pay a “fine” for not having insurance, even though his own mother gets ins for $20/mo. Unfortunately, he’s around a lot of “anti-Obama”, racist types (a huge disadvantage in living here), although he himself doesn’t consider himeslf racist—he wasnt brought up that way. He thinks voting is just spinning one’s wheels, because “all politicians are alike.” He understands neither compromise nor nuance. This is where we part ways. I really can’t figure out what kind of politics he holds, just that he has a pretty shitty attitude toward govt and doesn’t think it’s worth voting or trying to change it at all. I think he also has the same attitude many uneducated and uninformed millennials have, and there are more than you think.

He thinks the Constitution should be destroyed and we should start all over and we can have more “equality” then. He thinks the 2 major parties have a hold over us and that we should have a “parliamentary” style govt instead where every party has a chance. Like many young people, he has no patience for the slow grinding of our govt, and while he realizes his chances of “success” in an uber capitalist society are pretty damned limited, he still sort of clings to the idea that anyone can “make it” in this society while harboring the fear that he won’t, no matter how hard he works. Hope and cynicism at the same time and a bundle of contradictions with an almost anarchistic attitude. I don’t necessarily disagree with all his criticisms, but he hasn’t really thought beyond them for any real solutions.

It makes me want to tear my hair out, but he’s young and I truly hope he’s not developing a fixed attitude and will change his position as he matures. He’s a good person at heart but thinks he has to be “tough” all the time and is still picking up clues from others who don’t know any better than he does—his peers.

Morning LGF folks.

Justanotherhuman, don’t feel too bad about your grandson. I worked with an extremely intelligent young man that was just finishing up his masters in American History and working on a teaching certificate at the same time and he had much the same attitude about politics as your grandson.

He too decided voting was stupid, was cynical about all politics and politicians. Actually he was cynical about everything.

I have no idea why many young people feel they way they do, but I wonder if it is due to the lack of any focus in America on any big group driven goal/dream and everything is centered on the individual and how much they can consume. My other fear is the information you can find on the ‘net. There is a reason and a non-reason for everything. I think that can turn someone to a cynical attitude because there really is no right or wrong on the ‘net if you think about it.

108 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Apr 29, 2015 6:25:57am

re: #104 Alyosha

Best wishes

109 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:26:56am

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

yeah, pretty crazy.

I understand about the after-curfew stuff, but looked more like a kidnapping than an arrest.

110 Decatur Deb  Apr 29, 2015 6:27:22am

re: #104 Alyosha

Well, my divorce papers came through today.

Hmmm. Do we upding divorce?

111 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:27:45am

re: #101 De Kolta Chair

Laugh all you want, libruls, but look what the State Guard just found near Austin in the Pilot Knob volcano!!1!!

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I knew it! Have they located the secret tracking system?

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112 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 6:27:59am

re: #100 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I think an out of state policeman would be in the worst possible position to be put into crowd control in another state. You would have command problems for starters.

In the old days wasn’t it considered an asset to bring in mercenaries or police from another city/state/country since they would not have local connections and family and thus would be more likely to follow orders concerning violence against the citizenry?

113 Lidane  Apr 29, 2015 6:28:20am

re: #104 Alyosha

Well, my divorce papers came through today.

I’m not sure if I should offer congratulations or condolences. Best wishes to you either way.

114 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 6:29:02am

re: #101 De Kolta Chair

Laugh all you want, libruls, but look what the State Guard just found near Austin in the Pilot Knob volcano!!1!!

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I bet Abbott is jealous that their boss has a piranha pool.
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115 Alyosha  Apr 29, 2015 6:30:11am

re: #110 Decatur Deb

Louis C.K. would and that’s good enough for me. Nostalgia tends to obscure major blemishes.

116 William Lewis  Apr 29, 2015 6:32:12am

re: #104 Alyosha

Well, my divorce papers came through today.

Mine finished mid february. About when I bought my guitar. It’s a hard thing. I don’t know your situation but I really didn’t want it. But what good would fighting her wishes have served? So I wear my ring on a chain around my neck instead.

117 De Kolta Chair  Apr 29, 2015 6:32:32am

Erm … Hitler-Mussolini?

118 Alyosha  Apr 29, 2015 6:34:07am

re: #116 William Barnett-Lewis

Mine finished mid february. About when I bought my guitar. It’s a hard thing. I don’t know your situation but I really didn’t want it. But what good would fighting her wishes have served? So I wear my ring on a chain around my neck instead.

My sentiments exactly.

119 William Lewis  Apr 29, 2015 6:34:35am

re: #117 De Kolta Chair

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Erm … Hitler-Mussolini?

Nah, not ebil enough for ol’ Bill.

120 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 6:35:47am

re: #109 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

yeah, pretty crazy.

I understand about the after-curfew stuff, but looked more like a kidnapping than an arrest.

Have they found out where he is yet?

It’s kind of disturbing that they seem to have targeted someone who’s a veteran of these types of protest. I hope Deray watches his back.

121 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:35:54am

re: #117 De Kolta Chair

Erm … Hitler-Mussolini?

Bill Kristol’s a funny guy.

122 Shiplord Kirel  Apr 29, 2015 6:36:11am

How is it that our little band of peaceniks and libruls has more experience with, and more knowledge of, war and the military than any mob of jingoistic wingnuts ten times the size?

Could it have to do with real experience and the appreciation of reality?

123 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2015 6:36:22am

re: #117 De Kolta Chair

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Erm … Hitler-Mussolini?

He’s funny.

124 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:36:51am

re: #51 palomino

So you’re saying the Gov isn’t crazy. He’s just a pussy who caves in to the demands of the crazies. How is that any better?

That’s always his excuse when a GOP politician says this. He thinks it makes them look better but it actually makes them look even more craven. Really DF. Took a good look in the mirror. This is your party in action.

125 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 29, 2015 6:37:13am

re: #117 De Kolta Chair

The USA is in total anarchy and chaos? Meanwhile, people go through their days as before (other than in Bal-more) and Wall Street keeps ticking, as before. Also, no anarchy or chaos here in China. Nepal is going through a rough stretch, but I’m not sure even a Sith Lord can stop an earthquake.

Kristol is such an idiot.

And yes, I am back from three days of traveling to Chongqing. Finally, I don’t have to get back on the bus.

126 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:37:49am

re: #66 Lord Of The Pies

ONE BAD COP DOESN’T MEAN A WHOLE DEPARTMENT, BUT ALL TEH BLACKS AR3 TEH LOOTERS & TEH RIOTERS!!!!! TAKE AWAY ALL THERE WELFARES!!!!!!!

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Except that it isn’t “one bad cop.” There were six of them with Freddie that day and furthermore BPD has one of the worst records on police brutality in this country.

127 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:38:35am

re: #120 makeitstop

Have they found out where he is yet?

It’s kind of disturbing that they seem to have targeted someone who’s a veteran of these types of protest. I hope Deray watches his back.

There was a great clip of Deray on Wolf Blitzer’s show where Blitzer is asking these leading questions—

“But, but, but violent protests are wrong, RIGHT?!!!!!”

But Deray doesn’t play along. Mentions violence of police and how the windows can be fixed and restored but Freddy Gray’s life can’t be.

128 Frenchy  Apr 29, 2015 6:39:01am

re: #117 De Kolta Chair

Palpatine-Vader 2016.

129 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 6:40:23am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Except that it isn’t “one bad cop.” There were six of them with Freddie that day and furthermore BPD has one of the worst records on police brutality in this country.

130 William Lewis  Apr 29, 2015 6:40:25am

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel

How is it that our little band of peaceniks and libruls has more experience with, and more knowledge of, war and the military than any mob of jingoistic wingnuts ten times the size?

Could it have to do with real experience and the appreciation of reality?

It doesn’t always help - See Capt Tom Cotton who should know better but still spews jingoistic idiocy every chance he gets. Still I do believe your right about that being the case more often than not.

I didn’t vote for him but I respected GHWBush for his WWII time and the fact that he never down played the human costs of Iraq I. His son was a much lesser man.

131 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:40:26am

re: #125 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The USA is in total anarchy and chaos? Meanwhile, people go through their days as before (other than in Bal-more) and Wall Street keeps ticking, as before.

Kristol’s a pundit, meaning he’s functionally unemployed, meaning he just watches cable TV all day.

132 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:41:00am

re: #117 De Kolta Chair

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Erm … Hitler-Mussolini?

Will the Cheney-Giuliani ticket sell jackboots on their campaign site? I mean Cheney being an evil bastard aside. Dick Cheney who will be 76 and has tons of health problems is Kristol’s idea for president. That alone should tell you why Bill Kristol should have no credibility.

133 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 6:41:13am

re: #104 Alyosha

Well, my divorce papers came through today.

If no kids were involved, then I can only envy you, if there are kids, then you have my deepest sympathies…

134 Archangelus  Apr 29, 2015 6:41:28am

re: #128 Frenchy

Palpatine-Vader 2016.

Given the GOP’s current state, Tarkin - Jar Jar 2016 would be more likely…

135 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 29, 2015 6:41:30am

re: #116 William Barnett-Lewis

Mine finished mid february. About when I bought my guitar. It’s a hard thing. I don’t know your situation but I really didn’t want it. But what good would fighting her wishes have served? So I wear my ring on a chain around my neck instead.

I ditched the ring before we were even separated. Her demand for a divorce was like icing on a cake. Long story.

U2hlIGlzIHBhcmFub2lkIGRlbHVzaW9uYWwuIEZpbmFsbHksIHNoZSBjYW1lIHRvIHRoZSBjb25jbHVzaW9uIHRoYXQgSSB3YXMgaW4gY2Fob290cyB3aXRoIGhlciBlbmVtaWVzLiBObyBwb2ludCBpbiBhcmd1aW5nLiBMaWZlIGlzIHNvIG11Y2ggY2FsbWVyIGZvciBtZSB0aGlzIHdheS4gUGx1cywgYmVpbmcgaW4gQ2hpbmEgbWVhbnMgc2hlIGNhbid0IHN1ZGRlbmx5IGRyb3AgaW4gb24gbWUgdG8gY29tcGxpY2F0ZSBteSBsaWZlIG9uY2UgYWdhaW4u

136 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:41:30am

re: #129 Lord Of The Pies

I wonder why the tea partiers aren’t up in alarm and anger about the record of the Bmore police. There must be something….
/

137 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:41:49am

re: #129 Lord Of The Pies

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They beat up a 87 year old grandmother but I’m sure the conservative crazies on twitter will convince themselves that she deserved it as did the pregnant accountant they roughed up too.

138 Romantic Heretic  Apr 29, 2015 6:42:32am

re: #12 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

I’m not really happy about the “mentally ill” wisecrack. I’m not going to get hyper and express outrage or anything like that but please reconsider in the future. I mean, I want to say “What is he, nuts?” because I just can’t express his stupidity and cowardice strongly enough.

Being mentally ill myself It’s easy for me to spot when other people suffer from it.

Governor Abbot is either as paranoid as he sounds, so without identity that he has vanished into the gestalt of the conspiracy minded or so narcissistic he believes this is a step onto the road of being President-for-Life of the independent nation of Texas. Whatever the case is the man is not balanced either psychologically or emotionally.

Sadder still is that there are enough people sharing his pathology to get him elected.

139 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 6:42:57am

re: #107 ObserverArt

I had that sort of attitude in my 20s and 30s. (LGF and the GOP war on education essentially snapped me out of it.) And there is logic behind it.

1. Priorities - At this point you get enmeshed in career (or simply keeping employment), marriage/family, and then possibly a hobby or two to keep one sane. Keeping oneself up in political knowledge, much less activism, takes time and effort that is competing with the above.

2. Maturation - One gets to realize that a bunch of what one was taught is a lie. Any sort of cursory attention paid to national and local politics or organizational politics shows large of amounts of hypocrisy, greed, corruption, and outright bullshit. The sharks and panderers win, and are often actually lauded in the media.

3. The Cost - If you want to fight against this you have to carefully pick the target where you can have some effect. And hopefully you have the support of others in order to help you maintain the effort (and your sanity). And what are the potential sacrifices undertaken?

Given the opportunity cost it’s not that hard of a decision to build that shell and concentrate on your local issues. And “a pox on both their houses” and the cynicism is a justification and reason for the decision to disengage. And, to a large degree, it remains first-world problems until it is too late.

140 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 6:43:29am

He is such a dweeb:

:D

141 Frenchy  Apr 29, 2015 6:43:31am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

Don’t worry, CCJ will get the dirt on the grandmother.

142 Alyosha  Apr 29, 2015 6:43:38am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If no kids were involved, then I can only envy you, if there are kids, then you have my deepest sympathies…

Only dogs, thankfully. Whose custody I enjoy today.

143 Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2015 6:43:42am

“Chops Sawyer” by RicKy Syers

Awesome

144 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 6:44:17am

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel

How is it that our little band of peaceniks and libruls has more experience with, and more knowledge of, war and the military than any mob of jingoistic wingnuts ten times the size?

Could it have to do with real experience and the appreciation of reality?

We like to read books, not burn them?
///

145 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 6:44:24am

re: #127 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

There was a great clip of Deray on Wolf Blitzer’s show where Blitzer is asking these leading questions—

But Deray doesn’t play along. Mentions violence of police and how the windows can be fixed and restored but Freddy Gray’s life can’t be.

I saw that. Blitzer’s default setting is doofus, and he must have been fuming that Deray wouldn’t take the bait.

146 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:44:28am

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

He is such a dweeb:

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:D

Lol, that is from way before his time in fairness but still that’s pretty funny given how seriously he takes himself and thinks he’s ultra smart.

147 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:44:58am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

They beat up a 87 year old grandmother but I’m sure the conservative crazies on twitter will convince themselves that she deserved it as did the pregnant accountant they roughed up too.

Stop complaining, whatever the cops did to whoever was right, we need law and order and, Hey, what is happening over here with the DHS buying bullets? This must be to put all the true American Patriots in prison in FEMA camps.

148 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 6:45:07am

re: #128 Frenchy

Palpatine-Vader 2016.

Your lack of faith in the party disturbs the VP.
/

149 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 29, 2015 6:45:12am

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

He is such a dweeb:

:D

So, he hasn’t said anything about the big Vegas thing, so I guess nothing happened. Now he wants to go to Dallas?

150 darthstar  Apr 29, 2015 6:45:15am
151 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:45:29am

re: #127 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

There was a great clip of Deray on Wolf Blitzer’s show where Blitzer is asking these leading questions—

But Deray doesn’t play along. Mentions violence of police and how the windows can be fixed and restored but Freddy Gray’s life can’t be.

He is so right and that’s pretty much what I’ve been arguing. You can rebuild the businesses but Freddie Gray’s friends and family won’t get him back.

152 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:46:11am

Chuck must be busy. He hasn’t ruined Jeb Bush yet like he vowed to in a Bond villain esque fashion.

153 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2015 6:46:23am

re: #128 Frenchy

Palpatine-Vader 2016.

Cthulhu-Zod 2016. When you want chaotic/lawful evil, accept no substitutes.

154 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:46:34am

re: #145 makeitstop

I saw that. Blitzer’s default setting is doofus, and he must have been fuming that Deray wouldn’t take the bait.

For the media, it is the duty of every African American to condemn without reservation the fires and the looting so that the people who watch CNN will feel safe.

155 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 6:47:14am

The #tcot talking point this morning is HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATS RUNS ALL TEH CITIES!!!!! HURR HURR IT TEH DEMOCRATS WHO RUINED BALTIMORE WITH THERE DEMOCRATS LIBRUL POLICIES FOR 50 YEARS!!!!!!

They are completely deaf & blind to the fact that when Republican policies (TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH) are enacted by Republican governors, those states go to shit within a year or two.

Even when you point out the colossal fuckups of Brownback, Jindal, Walker, Christie, Snyder, et al they all HURR HURR LIBRUL MEDIA LIES!!!!!!

156 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2015 6:47:15am

So, Chuckles doesn’t know pop culture. Go figure.

157 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 6:47:59am

re: #142 Alyosha

Only dogs, thankfully. Whose custody I enjoy today.

We have four kids. Initially it went well, I moved to another village ten minutes away and was able to see the kids alternate weekends and individually throughout the week after school. Then the ex up and moved across the border into France, so now I see the kids only on holidays. Sucks big time.

158 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 6:48:57am

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

He is such a dweeb:

:D

He was voted ‘easiest to fuck with’ in high school. :)

The kid is one socially inept mofo.

159 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:49:01am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Chuck must be busy. He hasn’t ruined Jeb Bush yet like he vowed to in a Bond villain esque fashion.

He’s got a lot on his plate. Has to ruin Hillary (please donate!), uncover the Truth about the Baltimore riots and Freddy Gray’s juvy record, all the while preventing another Ebola outbreak and protecting rapists.

/

160 darthstar  Apr 29, 2015 6:49:07am

re: #149 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, he hasn’t said anything about the big Vegas thing, so I guess nothing happened. Now he wants to go to Dallas?

That was too funny not to prevent being deleted.

161 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:49:12am

re: #155 Lord Of The Pies

The #tcot talking point this morning is HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATS RUNS ALL TEH CITIES!!!!! HURR HURR IT TEH DEMOCRATS WHO RUINED BALTIMORE WITH THERE DEMOCRATS LIBRUL POLICIES FOR 50 YEARS!!!!!!

They are completely deaf & blind to the fact that when Republican policies (TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH) are enacted by Republican governors, those states go to shit within a year or two.

Even when you point out the colossal fuckups of Brownback, Jindal, Walker, Christie, Snyder, et al they all HURR HURR LIBRUL MEDIA LIES!!!!!!

And Maryland did in fact have a Republican governor from 2002-06. The fact is these problems result from the country’s move to the right as a whole where education and infrastructure cuts are usually the first thing. It’s yet another shitty byproduct of the so called Reagan Revolution.

162 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 6:49:36am

MOST RACIST TCOT TWEET OF THE DAY==>

163 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:49:44am

re: #159 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

He’s got a lot on his plate. Has to ruin Hillary (please donate!), uncover the Truth about the Baltimore riots and Freddy Gray’s juvy record, all the while preventing another Ebola outbreak and protecting rapists.

/

And now he has to find J.R.!

164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 6:50:21am

re: #160 darthstar

That was too funny not to prevent being deleted.

Okay, this is pretty funny. I try not to laugh at stupid people, but internet troll Chuck C. Johnson is an exception

Only when they continually insist how intelligent they are and cite The Bell Curve as proof…

165 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:50:23am

re: #162 Lord Of The Pies

MOST RACIST TCOT TWEET OF THE DAY==>

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Yes, let’s listen to Pat Buchanan. A man who has expressed admiration for Francisco f’ing Franco.

166 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 29, 2015 6:50:34am

re: #156 lawhawk

So, Chuckles doesn’t know pop culture. Go figure.

Dallas was big before he was in diapers. History for him began in 1988. All previous events, save for the existence of Vikings, Calvin Coolidge and stuff his grandfather(s) did, never happened.

167 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2015 6:50:50am

re: #134 Archangelus

Given the GOP’s current state, Tarkin - Jar Jar 2016 would be more likely…

Oh come on, don’t smear Tarkin like that.

168 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 6:51:13am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Only when they continually insist how intelligent they are and cite The Bell Curve as proof…

169 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 6:51:25am

re: #165 HappyWarrior

Yes, let’s listen to Pat Buchanan. A man who has expressed admiration for Francisco f’ing Franco.

Pat Buchanan wears a bag of cloves around his neck to cover the old man smell.

170 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 6:51:54am

re: #165 HappyWarrior

Yes, let’s listen to Pat Buchanan. A man who has expressed admiration for Francisco f’ing Franco Hitler.

171 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:51:59am

re: #162 Lord Of The Pies

MOST RACIST TCOT TWEET OF THE DAY==>

I wonder if Clive Bundy’s gang also needed “decisive force”.

172 William Lewis  Apr 29, 2015 6:52:09am

re: #135 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I don’t doubt there are many for whom it’s far and away the best thing. No fault divorce is a great societal good.

I just wasn’t ready to give up, personally.

173 De Kolta Chair  Apr 29, 2015 6:52:16am

Seems to me that it would be more Christian of Abbott to send the State Guard to help out in Nepal.

174 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 6:52:27am

hahahahaaaa, there he goes, being all “provocative”:

175 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 6:52:34am

re: #171 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I wonder if Clive Bundy’s gang also needed “decisive force”.

They were not “savages” (i.e. they were the “right” color)

176 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 6:53:07am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love it when UpChuck tries to play thoughtful philosopher.

177 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 6:53:43am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And CCJ reveals another vast swath of ignorance.

178 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2015 6:54:13am

re: #176 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I love it when UpChuck tries to play thoughtful philosopher.

179 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 6:54:58am

re: #155 Lord Of The Pies

The #tcot talking point this morning is HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATS RUNS ALL TEH CITIES!!!!! HURR HURR IT TEH DEMOCRATS WHO RUINED BALTIMORE WITH THERE DEMOCRATS LIBRUL POLICIES FOR 50 YEARS!!!!!!

They are completely deaf & blind to the fact that when Republican policies (TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH) are enacted by Republican governors, those states go to shit within a year or two.

Even when you point out the colossal fuckups of Brownback, Jindal, Walker, Christie, Snyder, et al they all HURR HURR LIBRUL MEDIA LIES!!!!!!

Kevin Williamson has an article up over on NRO, which has been linked within an inch of its life by every Republican on Facebook.

I clicked through, saw the byline and just shut the tab. I’ve got better things to do than read Williamson’s axe-grinding - like cleaning the cat hair out from under my desk.

180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 29, 2015 6:56:28am

re: #160 darthstar

That was too funny not to prevent being deleted.

Classic. That has to go in the Dossier.

181 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:56:39am

re: #170 Lord Of The Pies

Yeah how could I forget about that. The point is and I know you agree is that Buchanan has never met a right wing dictatorship he hasn’t liked. He’s the Will Rodgers of right wing dictatorships.

182 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2015 6:57:19am

re: #166 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Dallas was big before he was in diapers. History for him began in 1988. All previous events, save for the existence of Vikings, Calvin Coolidge and stuff his grandfather(s) did, never happened.

Except that they did a reboot that specifically included JR and Bobby and their progeny. That happened within the last few years.

It’s not like someone was referring to Little House on the Prairie or Gunsmoke or Bonanza. And yet, with TV Land and other classic show stations, there’s reruns/syndication for pretty much every show made.

183 Alyosha  Apr 29, 2015 6:57:19am

re: #178 Varek Raith

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Me. Every morning.

184 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 6:57:23am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

And Maryland did in fact have a Republican governor from 2002-06. The fact is these problems result from the country’s move to the right as a whole where education and infrastructure cuts are usually the first thing. It’s yet another shitty byproduct of the so called Reagan Revolution.

Baltimore’s issues run more than a few decade’s deep.

185 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 6:57:58am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

I didn’t know that there was a Wikipedia Vodka.

186 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2015 6:58:00am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

One of the nastiest, most abusive trolls on Twitter says he “assumes good faith.” Who does he think he’s fooling with this happy horse shit?

187 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:58:08am

re: #179 makeitstop

Kevin Williamson has an article up over on NRO, which has been linked within an inch of its life by every Republican on Facebook.

I clicked through, saw the byline and just shut the tab. I’ve got better things to do than read Williamson’s axe-grinding - like cleaning the cat hair out from under my desk.

I’m sure Williamson’s screed is coming forward to a LGF page by you. Sorry for sounding so crass but I keep on thinking that maybe DF will realize what’s wrong with his ideology and stopped. And instead I see that he made a pathetic attempt to rationalize what this original page is about regarding Abbott.

188 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 6:58:17am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

Most of us spend our lives chasing feelings but being prisoners of biological forces we mistake for thoughts.

Yeah, you might want to back away from the coke spoon, kid.

189 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2015 6:58:36am

re: #183 Alyosha

Me. Every morning.

Stay strong.
:)

190 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:58:40am

re: #184 Feline Fearless Leader

Baltimore’s issues run more than a few decade’s deep.

Yeah they do and then you add decades of shitty policies.

191 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 6:59:54am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahaaaa, there he goes, being all “provocative”:

A true objectivist. Do whatever he thinks is good for CCJ without regard for anyone (or anything) else.

192 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2015 7:01:10am

re: #186 Charles Johnson

One of the nastiest, most abusive trolls on Twitter says he “assumes good faith.” Who does he think he’s fooling with this happy horse shit?

He assumes bad jobu every time someone is killed at the hands of police - it’s always the dead person’s fault, even when they’re unarmed, have a toy gun, or otherwise minding their own business.

Only in his addled brain is it good faith to think that jaywalking is punishable by death. Or that it’s okay to smear that person by claiming that they had a violent criminal past, insinuating that they committed homicide, only for the courts to smack down that claim (but he goes on touting it anyways).

193 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 7:02:05am
194 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 29, 2015 7:02:49am

re: #182 lawhawk

Except that they did a reboot that specifically included JR and Bobby and their progeny. That happened within the last few years.

It’s not like someone was referring to Little House on the Prairie or Gunsmoke or Bonanza. And yet, with TV Land and other classic show stations, there’s reruns/syndication for pretty much every show made.

Chuck is too busy trolling teh Internets to be bothered with lowly TV shows.

195 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 7:03:48am

CCJ will be a footnote in the literature of psychology as the first person to document his descent into madness 140 characters at a time.

196 William Lewis  Apr 29, 2015 7:04:07am

Well, time for my 9 to 5 appointment with my pillow.

Later lizards.

197 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2015 7:04:14am

One of the funniest things Chuck does: he always denies it when somebody says he pooped on a floor.

198 William Lewis  Apr 29, 2015 7:04:53am

re: #195 Higgs Boson’s Mate

CCJ will be a footnote in the literature of psychology as the first person to document his descent into madness 140 characters at a time.

Objection: presumes he was sane to begin with.

199 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 7:05:02am

re: #188 makeitstop

Yeah, you might want to back away from the coke spoon, kid.

Too late.

200 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 7:09:41am

He’s gonna get pwned again:

201 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 7:12:37am
202 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:13:23am

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I really don’t like the idea that some states have of having the judiciary being an elected office in the first place.

203 William Lewis  Apr 29, 2015 7:14:40am

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Won’t help much here until we get rid of the Walker regime, but it offers a bit of hope going forward.

Now off to bed for real.

204 Lidane  Apr 29, 2015 7:15:33am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

I really don’t like the idea that some states have of having the judiciary being an elected office in the first place.

With good reason. Both Greg Abbott and GOHMERT! won elections as judges. Let that sink in a while.

205 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:16:16am

re: #204 Lidane

With good reason. Both Greg Abbott and GOHMERT! won elections as judges. Let that sink in a while.

Knew about GOHMERT and also Roy Moore but not Abbott. But yeah.

206 No Country For Old Haters  Apr 29, 2015 7:17:43am

Some wingnut signed me up for a bunch of Christian email lists last night. Fortunately I use gmail, so I could block them as spam in less time than it took the loon to sign me up, and it could help this derp get added to Google’s spam algorithms.

207 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 7:19:10am

Chuck’s followers don’t realize that his jobs are paid in Chuck Bucks which will be backed by the full faith and credit of the Bitcoins that he’ll buy if one of his gofundmes covers more than drinking money.

208 No Country For Old Haters  Apr 29, 2015 7:19:27am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s gonna get pwned again:

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209 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 29, 2015 7:26:36am

The Tweet sourced Dossier on Chuck C. Johnson has just been updated.

And now I am going to slumberland.

210 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 7:27:48am

re: #209 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The Tweet sourced Dossier on Chuck C. Johnson has just been updated.

And now I am going to slumberland.

Does GoatNews pay its reporters in tin cans?

211 Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2015 7:32:59am

re: #210 Feline Fearless Leader

Does GoatNews pay its reporters in tin cans?

No, ramen.

212 Lidane  Apr 29, 2015 7:35:57am

*facepalm*

213 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 7:37:31am

re: #212 Lidane

*facepalm*

GOP Rep. Bill Flores links the Baltimore riots to same-sex marriage

They are all seen as an affront unto the Lord, so yes, to these people they are all the same.

214 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2015 7:38:06am

Remembers folks, the GOP is not mentally ill.
No sirree Bob.
/

215 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:38:39am

re: #212 Lidane

*facepalm*

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You knew it was coming. What a fucking hack job asshole.

216 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 7:40:01am
217 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:40:07am

re: #214 Varek Raith

Remembers folks, the GOP is not mentally ill.
No sirree Bob.
/

Oh come on Varek, you know he’s just talking this crazy so the “real crazies” don’t take over just like Lindsay Graham had to sound like a mad man so he could keep his seat. Go team GOP go!

218 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 29, 2015 7:40:09am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

No, ramen.

The Official Ramen Instant Noodle of GotNews.

219 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 29, 2015 7:41:35am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I, for one, bow before our new Poodle Moth Overlords.

RBS

220 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 7:41:57am

re: #212 Lidane

*facepalm*

Oh, just another GOP cave man who knows nothing about Maryland, Baltimore, or any inner city anywhere.

221 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 7:42:35am

re: #212 Lidane

GOP Rep. Bill Flores links the Baltimore riots to same-sex marriage

The plow horse is spavined, rats got into the seed corn and it hasn’t rained for sixteen weeks.

I blame same-sex marriage.

222 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 29, 2015 7:43:28am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

And the pastor rolling a cigarette.

223 Eventual Carrion  Apr 29, 2015 7:43:31am

re: #210 Feline Fearless Leader

Does GoatNews pay its reporters in tin cans?

Of Soylent tuna

224 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 7:43:32am

Things are not going well in Breadbagland==>

225 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:43:35am

I had a Charlie Horse last night. Obviously it was because a guy named Charlie can marry a guy nicknamed Horse now.

226 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:44:04am

re: #222 GlutenFreeJesus

And the pastor rolling a cigarette.

Yep. Thuggish assholes.

227 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:44:27am

re: #224 Lord Of The Pies

Things are not going well in Breadbagland==>

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What was Joni’s Fredo Corleone moment?

228 #FergusonFireside  Apr 29, 2015 7:44:34am
229 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2015 7:44:43am

re: #221 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Kansas’ budget is totally screwed; I blame SSM.
New Jersey’s budget is screwed up; I blame SSM.
Louisiana’s budget is screwed; I blame SSM.

Or, I can blame the Republican governors who proffered budgets that were fiscally irresponsible, shifted tax burdens on to those least able to afford them, and otherwise gave tax breaks to the wealthy and chopped education funding to the bone, leaving the state in worse economic shape than when they started.

230 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:45:09am

By the way, I’d like if we started calling these “Fredo Corleone moments” That is when a conservative favorite breaks the heart of the nuts that nominated and elected him or her.

231 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:45:47am

re: #229 lawhawk

Kansas’ budget is totally screwed; I blame SSM.
New Jersey’s budget is screwed up; I blame SSM.
Louisiana’s budget is screwed; I blame SSM.

Or, I can blame the Republican governors who proffered budgets that were fiscally irresponsible, shifted tax burdens on to those least able to afford them, and otherwise gave tax breaks to the wealthy and chopped education funding to the bone, leaving the state in worse economic shape than when they started.

Nah that makes too much sense. Can’t we just blame SSM and liberals? and climate change scientists and people on welfare?

232 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:46:25am

re: #228 #FergusonFireside

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And many people will just see the word of the Baltimore PD and just take them at their word because cops would never lie.//

233 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 7:46:41am

re: #229 lawhawk

Kansas’ budget is totally screwed; I blame SSM.
New Jersey’s budget is screwed up; I blame SSM.
Louisiana’s budget is screwed; I blame SSM.

Or, I can blame the Republican governors who proffered budgets that were fiscally irresponsible, shifted tax burdens on to those least able to afford them, and otherwise gave tax breaks to the wealthy and chopped education funding to the bone, leaving the state in worse economic shape than when they started.

Silly: those are merely trials sent by the Lord to test the faithful.

234 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 7:46:42am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

Nah that makes too much sense. Can’t we just blame SSM and liberals? and climate change scientists and people on welfare?

HURR HURR TEH DEMOCRATS!!!!! IT ALL TEH DEMOCRATS FAULT!!!!!

235 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2015 7:47:37am

re: #218 RealityBasedSteve

The Official Ramen Instant Noodle of GotNews.

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Nissin > Maruchan.

236 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:47:52am

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THE LIBERALS DID IT! THE LIBERALS DID IT!

237 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 7:49:54am

re: #224 Lord Of The Pies

Things are not going well in Breadbagland==>

Did Joni say or do something humane?

238 #FergusonFireside  Apr 29, 2015 7:50:12am

re: #232 HappyWarrior

And many people will just see the word of the Baltimore PD and just take them at their word because cops would never lie.//

They are just a PR operation at this point. I’m finding it impossible to believe anything they say.

239 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 7:52:31am

re: #237 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Did Joni say or do something humane?

I don’t know what she said or did to set off that Tweet since there’s no link.

240 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 7:53:05am
241 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 7:54:44am

re: #238 #FergusonFireside

They are just a PR operation at this point. I’m finding it impossible to believe anything they say.

The @baltimorepolice.org return addresses on the emailed death threats probably have something to do with that.

242 #FergusonFireside  Apr 29, 2015 7:56:10am

re: #241 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The @baltimorepolice.org return addresses on the emailed death threats probably have something to do with that.

What? Did I miss this?

243 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 7:56:23am

re: #239 Lord Of The Pies

I don’t know what she said or did to set off that Tweet since there’s no link.

Looks like it was this:

244 Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2015 7:57:07am

re: #230 HappyWarrior

By the way, I’d like if we started calling these “Fredo Corleone moments” That is when a conservative favorite breaks the heart of the nuts that nominated and elected him or her.

I heartily concur.

245 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 7:57:47am

re: #218 RealityBasedSteve

The Official Ramen Instant Noodle of GotNews.

I remember when they were eight for a buck: one for each day of the week and two on Sunday.

246 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 7:58:36am

While we’re all pointing & laughing at Chuck, Ben’s descent into blithering idiocy continues apace==>

247 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 7:58:44am

re: #244 Dr Lizardo

I heartily concur.

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And that scene takes place in Cuba right before things got exciting.
:)

248 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 7:59:36am

re: #246 Lord Of The Pies

While we’re all pointing & laughing at Chuck, Ben’s descent into blithering idiocy continues apace==>

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It’s almost as if all these guys are secretly hoping for teh forced Ghey.

249 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:00:08am

re: #244 Dr Lizardo

I heartily concur.

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Video

There’s a great documentary about John Cazale who played Fredo called “I Knew It Was You.” Such a fine actor who left us too young.

250 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:00:50am

re: #246 Lord Of The Pies

While we’re all pointing & laughing at Chuck, Ben’s descent into blithering idiocy continues apace==>

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And the Bill of Rights were ratified when slavery was still LEGAL, Ben.

251 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:01:12am

re: #248 makeitstop

It’s almost as if all these guys are secretly hoping for teh forced Ghey.

They’re not comfortable in their sexuality at all. That much I do know.

252 Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2015 8:01:14am

re: #247 Feline Fearless Leader

And that scene takes place in Cuba right before things got exciting.
:)

Indeed, on the very eve of the revolution IIRC. I believe shortly after that scene, Batista excused himself from the crowd.

253 Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2015 8:01:52am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

There’s a great documentary about John Cazale who played Fredo called “I Knew It Was You.” Such a fine actor who left us too young.

Yes, he was. A remarkable actor who left a formidable legacy in his brief career.

254 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 8:02:39am

WINGNUT MEME FAIL
Hey did you notice “Well-Regulated” comes before “Shall not be infringed”
IT WASN’T AN ACCIDENT

255 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:02:59am

re: #253 Dr Lizardo

Yes, he was. A remarkable actor who left a formidable legacy in his brief career.

He’s had a huge influence on some of my favorite actors today like Sam Rockwell. My favorite actors aren’t leading men with classic good looks but guys like Sam, John, Michael Shannon, and Steve Buscemi.

256 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:04:39am

re: #254 Lord Of The Pies

WINGNUT MEME FAIL
Hey did you notice “Well-Regulated” comes before “Shall not be infringed”
IT WASN’T AN ACCIDENT

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Aren’t these the same people who act like the 10th is among the most sacred of the Bill of Rights after the 2nd? Kind of shoots it in the foot. And yes of course they ignore well regulated.

257 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 29, 2015 8:04:50am

re: #245 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I remember when they were eight for a buck: one for each day of the week and two on Sunday.

They are still 2.25 for a case of 12 at Walmart. Inflation hasn’t been too cruel to raman noodles.

258 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 8:06:19am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Mothra, the early years.

259 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 8:06:26am

re: #257 RealityBasedSteve

They are still 2.25 for a case of 12 at Walmart. Inflation hasn’t been too cruel to raman noodles.

You see, no need to raise the minimum wage!

260 b.d.  Apr 29, 2015 8:07:40am

re: #254 Lord Of The Pies

WINGNUT MEME FAIL
Hey did you notice “Well-Regulated” comes before “Shall not be infringed”
IT WASN’T AN ACCIDENT

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If the right to bear arms was so consequential then why was it added as an amendment and not included in the constitution in the first place?

It’s more like the 2nd afterthought.

261 iossarian  Apr 29, 2015 8:07:49am

re: #254 Lord Of The Pies

Have you noticed how the US system of government seems to have been set up as a compromise between rich white slave owners, non-slave-owning rich white dudes, and religious extremist white dudes?

THAT WASN’T AN ACCIDENT

262 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 8:08:12am

re: #246 Lord Of The Pies

While we’re all pointing & laughing at Chuck, Ben’s descent into blithering idiocy continues apace==>

Ben doesn’t sound happy. Sounds like he wants the State to be able to ban a sexual practice. Like in 1868, when times were good. Less government. Liberty. Freedom.

/

263 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 8:08:30am

Hillary Clinton was making a lot of sense about what needs to be done in this country to alleviate the kind of social unrest and income inequality we’re seeing. I had to leave to pickup the Munchkin, who has a cold, so Dad gave him some liquid Tylenol and he’s in bed.

So, WTF is this argument coming from the RW about marriage being all about “the children”? Do they want to reinstitute coverture? There is no moral argument for marriage, which should simply be a legal, secular matter for everyone, whoever they marry, not a moral matter dictated by the religious. Children are often raised with parents, sometimes w/o one of them, by family, and in other situations. Who someone marries should have no bearing on what my own marital status is or even whether or not I have children. What we did as a society 200 years ago, even 10 yrs ago, has no bearing on today’s societal changes, which are the real democratic changes people want, because they flow from society itself, not foisted on people outside of themselves, and ensure that all are afforded the same rights as any other.

264 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 8:09:06am

re: #260 b.d.

If the right to bear arms was so consequential then why was it added as an amendment and not included in the constitution ion the first place?

It’s more like the 2nd afterthought.

Did you notice that when the Constitution was drafted the US had a miniscule standing army, no aircraft, missiles or heavy artillery?

265 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 8:09:54am

re: #262 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Ben doesn’t sound happy. Sounds like he wants the State to be able to ban a sexual practice. Like in 1868, when times were good. Less government. Liberty. Freedom.

/

266 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 8:10:30am

re: #261 iossarian

Have you noticed how the US system of government seems to have been set up as a compromise between rich white slave owners, non-slave-owning rich white dudes, and religious extremist white dudes?

THAT WASN’T AN ACCIDENT

THIS.

267 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:10:32am

re: #262 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Ben doesn’t sound happy. Sounds like he wants the State to be able to ban a sexual practice. Like in 1868, when times were good. Less government. Liberty. Freedom.

/

Yeah it does seem he wants that and that again shows the hypocrisy of conservatives like Ben who complain about the “nanny state” yet pine for the state regulating sexual activity between consenting adults.

268 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:11:07am

re: #265 Lord Of The Pies

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Anthony Kennedy isn’t the left you twit.

269 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:12:01am

You know Ben if we did things like how you wanted, you would be a second class citizen being a Jew but I get it, you love to kiss fundie ass because you think it will make them like you but you’re just another Jew to them.

270 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:12:46am

re: #260 b.d.

If the right to bear arms was so consequential then why was it added as an amendment and not included in the constitution in the first place?

It’s more like the 2nd afterthought.

I like reminding the “strict constructionists” that their ideological ancestors like Patrick Henry didn’t even think we needed a Constitution in the first place.

271 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 8:13:12am

re: #265 Lord Of The Pies

Left thinks state marriage is designed to “bestow dignity” and not protect/reward child-bearing/child-rearing bc the State is their god.

For a young dude, he sure is bitter.

272 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 8:13:38am

re: #269 HappyWarrior

You know Ben if we did things like how you wanted, you would be a second class citizen being a Jew but I get it, you love to kiss fundie ass because you think it will make them like you but you’re just another Jew to them.

Ben thinks he’ll be “The Good Jew” but he’s wrong, “The Good Jew” is Joel Rosenberg.

273 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:14:46am

re: #271 makeitstop

For a young dude, he sure is bitter.

All young conservatives are. It’s because they’re old men trapped in young men’s bodies.

274 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:15:28am

re: #272 Lord Of The Pies

Ben thinks he’ll be “The Good Jew” but he’s wrong, “The Good Jew” is Joel Rosenberg.

He’s just such a pandering asshole that it isn’t even funny how much he thinks sounding like a Christian fundamentalist is going to get them to like and respect him.

275 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:17:29am

Really if you’re pining for sodomy laws to return, please do not complain to me about the “Nanny state.” I don’t like some of what people like Bloomberg have done either and I am not fond of state sanctioned smoking bans but by the same token, any conservative who wants sodomy laws back forfeits his right to complain about the nanny state.

276 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 29, 2015 8:17:44am

Conservatives think Roe v. Wade (Abortion Rights), Lawrence v. Texas (Decriminalizing Sodomy), Griswold v. Connecticut (State bans on birth Control), Brown v. Board of Education (Forced Segregation) are all overreaches by the federal govt on states rights.

What do each of those decisions have in common? They broadened the rights of groups they didn’t approve of.

RBS

277 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 8:18:27am

re: #276 RealityBasedSteve

Conservatives think Roe v. Wade (Abortion Rights), Lawrence v. Texas (Decriminalizing Sodomy), Griswold v. Connecticut (State bans on birth Control), Brown v. Board of Education (Forced Segregation) are all overreaches by the federal govt on states rights.

What do each of those decisions have in common? They broadened the rights of groups they didn’t approve of.

RBS

Don’t forget Loving v. Virginia

278 Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2015 8:19:10am

re: #276 RealityBasedSteve

Conservatives think Roe v. Wade (Abortion Rights), Lawrence v. Texas (Decriminalizing Sodomy), Griswold v. Connecticut (State bans on birth Control), Brown v. Board of Education (Forced Segregation) are all overreaches by the federal govt on states rights.

What do each of those decisions have in common? They broadened the rights of groups they didn’t approve of.

RBS

279 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:19:32am

re: #276 RealityBasedSteve

Conservatives think Roe v. Wade (Abortion Rights), Lawrence v. Texas (Decriminalizing Sodomy), Griswold v. Connecticut (State bans on birth Control), Brown v. Board of Education (Forced Segregation) are all overreaches by the federal govt on states rights.

What do each of those decisions have in common? They broadened the rights of groups they didn’t approve of.

RBS

Add to that Eisenstadt v Baird which is similar to Griswold but also allowed contraceptives for non married couples. The FRC has condemned that one lately too. And while not alot of them complain now about it, they didn’t like Gideon much either at the time.

280 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:20:22am

re: #277 Lord Of The Pies

Don’t forget Loving v. Virginia

Yeah we’ve seen the polls. A huge number of southern Republicans oppose interracial marriage’s legality. I guess if they’re not over Loving which will turn 50 in a couple years, it’s no wonder why they’re apocalyptic about SSM.

281 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 29, 2015 8:20:53am

re: #277 Lord Of The Pies

Don’t forget Loving v. Virginia

Thank you. I knew I had left one off the list. My only excuse is that I’ve only had one cup of tea. Must attend to that right now.

RBS

282 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 8:21:36am

Maybe it’s mah illness. But with time on my hands I looked at what conservatives once would stand for vs today. So I tend to think of this new heartless strain of conservatives as Pneucons. A sick version of what conservatism meant early in my life.

283 Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2015 8:22:18am

So, everyone, here’s a heads-up…..a Russian cargo spacecraft is falling to Earth and apparently, it’s outta control. Russian flight controllers were aiming for a water landing, but they’ve given up. So it’s gonna come down…..somewhere.

theguardian.com

284 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:22:51am

Speaking of the past and why conservatives who glamorize it are shitty, dishonest people. Did you guys know that until fairly recently it was legal for prosecutors to withhold evidence from defense counsels? That’s yet another thing that the “god awful” Warren Court shut down. I forget the exact decision. But really the Warren Court’s legacy goes beyond Brown, Loving, and the other big cases you know.

285 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 8:23:14am

re: #246 Lord Of The Pies

I’ve always wanted to do something bold with fabrics.

286 De Kolta Chair  Apr 29, 2015 8:24:14am

re: #283 Dr Lizardo

So, everyone, here’s a heads-up…..a Russian cargo spacecraft is falling to Earth and apparently, it’s outta control. Russian flight controllers were aiming for a water landing, but they’ve given up. So it’s gonna come down…..somewhere.

theguardian.com

Wow, that video is wild!

287 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:25:50am

And I think Lidane for pointing this out often but the wingers who want a constitutional amendment are basically wanting to amend the Constitution to limit rights. That’s only happened one time before. And we saw how that worked out.

288 Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2015 8:25:50am

re: #286 De Kolta Chair

Wow, that video is wild!

Yeah…..I certainly hope it doesn’t come down in a densely populated area. Talk about a most unpleasant surprise!

289 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 8:26:38am

re: #286 De Kolta Chair

Wow, that NASA video is wild!

And it will be in orbit for a week?

290 b.d.  Apr 29, 2015 8:27:03am

At least they used the correct you’re

291 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 8:27:11am

re: #288 Dr Lizardo

Yeah…..I certainly hope it doesn’t come down in a densely populated area. Talk about a most unpleasant surprise!

DEVO stays relevant

292 Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2015 8:27:40am

re: #289 Justanotherhuman

And it will be in orbit for a week?

No…..it’s coming down now.

293 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 8:27:52am

re: #290 b.d.

At least they used the correct you’re

prabably? but at least the hid the straw sticking out of Obama’s ears…

294 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 8:28:05am

re: #263 Justanotherhuman

Hillary Clinton was making a lot of sense about what needs to be done in this country to alleviate the kind of social unrest and income inequality we’re seeing. I had to leave to pickup the Munchkin, who has a cold, so Dad gave him some liquid Tylenol and he’s in bed.

So, WTF is this argument coming from the RW about marriage being all about “the children”? Do they want to reinstitute coveture? There is no moral argument for marriage, which should simply be a legal, secular matter for everyone, whoever they marry, not a moral matter dictated by the religious. Children are often raised with parents, sometimes w/o one of them, by family, and in other situations. Who someone marries should have no bearing on what my own marital status is or even whether or not I have children. What we did as a society 200 years ago, even 10 yrs ago, has no bearing on today’s societal changes, which are the real democratic changes people want, because they flow from society itself, not foisted on people outside of themselves, and ensure that all are afforded the same rights as any other.

“The children” are massively important! How else are we going to properly indoctrinate the next generation into holding the correct values and being properly respectful of the right authorities!
///

295 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 8:28:48am

It look like Baltimore will soon have more cops than actual residents?

300 Pennsylvania State Troopers will deploy to Baltimore, at Maryland’s cost - @NBCPhiladelphia
read more on nbcphiladelphia.com

296 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 29, 2015 8:28:52am

OT… A couple of days ago I complained that I won an eBay auction that I really hadn’t intended to win, just an opening bid to kill the “Buy it Now” price, and then realized that the item looked like it was in way worse shape than I had thought.

Well, it arrived today, it’s in much better shape than I had imagined, got a few scars and scratches, but nothing bad. I’m going to toss it on the test bench this afternoon and see if it’s going to need a rebuild or not. Even if it does, I’ll still have made a great buy.

Sometimes it just all goes right…

RBS

297 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:29:23am

re: #290 b.d.

At least they used the correct you’re

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And you’re an idiot Katt who is obsessed with being a victim. Obama hasn’t called Christians, hunters, or soldiers terrorists. He has criticized Christian bigotry which he’s right to do because Christians are allowed to be called bigots in this country.

298 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 8:30:52am

re: #290 b.d.

At least they used the correct you’re

A Baltimore resident?

Oh no, sorry. An Oathkeeper devotee. Are FEMA officers surrounding her town, cutting off food and water, setting a curfew?

299 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 8:30:57am

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Did you notice that when the Constitution was drafted the US had a miniscule standing army, no aircraft, missiles or heavy artillery?

And written after a couple of revolts that included the National Executive leading troops against them.

300 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 8:30:58am

re: #288 Dr Lizardo

Yeah…..I certainly hope it doesn’t come down in a densely populated area. Talk about a most unpleasant surprise!

Maybe it will burn up on re-entry?

301 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 8:33:35am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

Yeah it does seem he wants that and that again shows the hypocrisy of conservatives like Ben who complain about the “nanny state” yet pine for the state regulating sexual activity between consenting adults.

And the fight isn’t about sexual activity since they can do that now. It’s about getting the same *legal* rights as heterosexual couples.

It’s interesting to see how the one side is constantly miscasting and lying about the issue. I had a discussion about same-sex marriage with a co-worker who is in Brazil yesterday. The canard about churches/priests being forced to marry homosexual couples is still being tossed around down there.

302 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 8:33:41am

re: #265 Lord Of The Pies

Ben, isn’t “protect/reward, child-bearing/child rearing” a state marriage thing, too?

303 Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2015 8:34:33am

re: #300 Lord Of The Pies

Maybe it will burn up on re-entry?

I certainly hope so. It’s a Progress spacecraft, and they’re designed to burn up on re-entry.

304 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 8:35:03am

One other thing that the religious right is concerned about with this SSM decision: the tax-free status of any religious institution and the effect it would have on them should they refuse to follow the law. They really also think that “democracy” means bigots should rule and religious “morals” should back them up.

Always, follow the money.

305 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 8:35:47am

re: #301 Feline Fearless Leader

And the fight isn’t about sexual activity since they can do that now. It’s about getting the same *legal* rights as heterosexual couples.

It’s interesting to see how the one side is constantly miscasting and lying about the issue. I had a discussion about same-sex marriage with a co-worker who is in Brazil yesterday. The canard about churches/priests being forced to marry homosexual couples is still being tossed around down there.

If there is a state church then yes, they can be required to do that.

306 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 8:36:43am

re: #280 HappyWarrior

Yeah we’ve seen the polls. A huge number of southern Republicans oppose interracial marriage’s legality. I guess if they’re not over Loving which will turn 50 in a couple years, it’s no wonder why they’re apocalyptic about SSM.

And there are polls out there that report among church-goers the nuts are already losing that battle. Maybe they will have to find another issue to spend all their money on - perhaps something like feeding and clothing the poor. Or some nice stained glass windows.
/

307 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 8:37:10am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY, HISTORY DENIAL DEPT==>

308 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 8:39:04am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY, HISTORY DENIAL PART II==>

309 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:39:44am

re: #307 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY, HISTORY DENIAL DEPT==>

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This is why they’re idiots. It’s not “hidden” or even denied that the people who implemented, enforced, and upheld Jim Crow were Democrats. What’s nonsense is this idea that they were anything like the Democrats of today or that they were liberals. And the KKK had plenty of Republicans too. It was not just an arm of the Democratic party and in fact the KKK hated my username’s name sake so much because he was a Catholic that they campaigned for Herbert Hoover.

310 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2015 8:39:46am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is…that a furby???
/

311 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:41:22am

They love to claim Democrats KKK but ignore the fact that Nixon and Reagan welcomed the Dixiecrats into the Republican party with welcome arms.

312 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 8:41:36am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

Speaking of the past and why conservatives who glamorize it are shitty, dishonest people. Did you guys know that until fairly recently it was legal for prosecutors to withhold evidence from defense counsels? That’s yet another thing that the “god awful” Warren Court shut down. I forget the exact decision. But really the Warren Court’s legacy goes beyond Brown, Loving, and the other big cases you know.

Brady vs Maryland

You mentioning that reminds me that I notice in old movies you see “surprise witnesses” and “new evidence” crop up as a plot point. Given discovery and current court procedures it’s pretty hard to do that, so I was wondering where the precedent may be that prevented that sort of thing and it was more than something added to screenplays simply to add tension.

313 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:42:38am

re: #312 Feline Fearless Leader

Brady vs Maryland

You mentioning that reminds me that I notice in old movies you see “surprise witnesses” and “new evidence” crop up as a plot point. Given discovery and current court procedures it’s pretty hard to do that, so I was wondering where the precedent may be that prevented that sort of thing and it was more than something added to screenplays simply to add tension.

Thank you counselor.

314 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 8:42:42am

re: #295 Justanotherhuman

It look like Baltimore will soon have more cops than actual residents?

300 Pennsylvania State Troopers will deploy to Baltimore, at Maryland’s cost - @NBCPhiladelphia
read more on nbcphiladelphia.com

It’s a trap by the anarchist elements!
///

315 Ace-o-aces  Apr 29, 2015 8:42:42am
316 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:43:29am

re: #315 Ace-o-aces

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well looks like Rush’s marriage is done. Not that it had any chance.

317 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 8:43:52am

re: #300 Lord Of The Pies

Maybe it will burn up on re-entry?

Just hope there is not a toilet seat in there.
// ;P

318 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 8:43:59am

re: #288 Dr Lizardo

Forecast…
Today-Sunny, with a high near 87. Light and variable wind becoming southwest 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon. Slight chance of raining orbital debris

319 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 8:45:19am

re: #305 Lord Of The Pies

If there is a state church then yes, they can be required to do that.

They can establish them, but do any of our states currently have an official church with state-controlled property and priesthood?

320 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:45:56am

What’s really messed up is that Thomas someone whose marriage would have been prohibited before Loving (he lives in Virginia) is no doubt going to rule against SSM. If that’s not a reason to see why Clarence Thomas is beneath contempt and respect, I don’t know what it is.

321 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 8:46:01am

re: #314 Feline Fearless Leader

It’s a trap by the anarchist elements!
///

I’ve actually been wondering if Bob Avakian’s RCP shit-stirrers have been in Baltimore.

322 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 29, 2015 8:46:14am

re: #318 Great White Snark

F U. :)))))

323 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 8:47:11am

re: #319 Feline Fearless Leader

They can establish them, but do any of our states currently have an official church with state-controlled property and priesthood?

No, because 1A there can be no state church in the U.S., but other countries like UK, Denmark & Netherlands have state churches that have been required to perform same-sex marriage.

324 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 8:52:10am

re: #323 Lord Of The Pies

No, because 1A there can be no state church in the U.S., but other countries like UK, Denmark & Netherlands have state churches that have been required to perform same-sex marriage.

Hmm, I thought it was the country could not have a state church, but the individual states could. And at the time of the Constitution being written a few might have had an official state church.

(looks on Wikipedia)

Some of the original 13 colonies had official state churches. And a few kept that status (probably just on the books) into the early 1800s.

325 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 8:54:28am

re: #324 Feline Fearless Leader

Some of the original 13 colonies had official state churches. And a few kept that status (probably just on the books) into the early 1800s.

Nothing to prevent them from naming Jesus their official state mascot…

326 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 8:55:01am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

Thank you counselor.

And Brady vs Maryland was a 1963 decision. Perry Mason on TV had it’s first run from 1957-1966. “Witness For the Prosecution” was a 1957 movie, and also took place in the UK judicial system.

(Just two media examples that I recall featured one side or the other pulling “surprise” evidence or witnesses out without the other side getting any advance notice.)

327 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:56:16am

re: #326 Feline Fearless Leader

And Brady vs Maryland was a 1963 decision. Perry Mason on TV had it’s first run from 1957-1966. “Witness For the Prosecution” was a 1957 movie, and also took place in the UK judicial system.

(Just two media examples that I recall featured one side or the other pulling “surprise” evidence or witnesses out without the other side getting any advance notice.)

It’s a great thing that is now unconstitutional. Everyone understandably wants to see people do time for their crimes but it’s not justice to withhold evidence even if the person is guilty.

328 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 8:56:23am

re: #322 GlutenFreeJesus

Cold where you are? Trade ya heat for water at a great discount…

329 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 8:56:41am

re: #323 Lord Of The Pies

No, because 1A there can be no state church in the U.S., but other countries like UK, Denmark & Netherlands have state churches that have been required to perform same-sex marriage.

The UK certainly has a religious test for office: the King/Queen of England must be head of the Church of England, and cannot be Catholic.

330 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 8:56:56am

Creepy vehicle of the day

Man, would that make a kickass restoration project or what?

331 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 8:57:39am

re: #327 HappyWarrior

It’s a great thing that is now unconstitutional. Everyone understandably wants to see people do time for their crimes but it’s not justice to withhold evidence even if the person is guilty.

Though the defense is actually allowed to do that.

Brady vs Maryland (and the follow-up cases) were essentially ruling that the state could not without evidence.

332 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 8:58:05am

So, some of the usual suspects are condeming Islam itself as being murderous terrorists, of course, saying they’ve won.

There was no report on Luz’s reason.

333 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:58:26am

re: #331 Feline Fearless Leader

Though the defense is actually allowed to do that.

Brady vs Maryland (and the follow-up cases) were essentially ruling that the state could not without evidence.

Right. Really that’s something to think about when you see people pining for the “good old days.”

334 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 8:59:33am

re: #329 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The UK certainly has a religious test for office: the King/Queen of England must be head of the Church of England, and cannot be Catholic.

Which has no impact on the US allowing same-sex marriage. Or forcing religious officials in the US to marry couples. (Note, if the same person has an official state office like being a court clerk or JotP then it’s a new ballgame - put that is due to their state office, not their religious one since the two are separate.)

335 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 9:01:17am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Right. Really that’s something to think about when you see people pining for the “good old days.”

But, but, it would only be done in order to get proper justice on those who were guilty!
///

(Or a policeman planting evidence.)

336 Bubblehead II  Apr 29, 2015 9:01:36am

Well if the SCOTUS does find SSM bans to be unconstitutional, the fundies already have a plan in place.

‘We will not obey’: Christian leaders threaten civil disobedience if Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage

“We will not obey.”

That’s the blunt warning a group of prominent religious leaders is sending to the Supreme Court of the United States as they consider same-sex marriage.

Nothing like a bit of useless saber rattling from the usual suspects. A ruling in favor of SSM isn’t going suddenly force churches to perform them. In fact if SCOTUS does rule in favor, they will also make it clear that it only effects Government officials, not religious organizations.

337 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:02:51am

re: #336 Bubblehead II

Well if the SCOTUS does find SSM bans to be unconstitutional, the fundies already have a plan in place.

‘We will not obey’: Christian leaders threaten civil disobedience if Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage

“We will not obey.”

That’s the blunt warning a group of prominent religious leaders is sending to the Supreme Court of the United States as they consider same-sex marriage.

Nothing like a bit of useless saber rattling from the usual suspects. A ruling in favor of SSM isn’t going suddenly force churches to perform them. In fact if SCOTUS does rule in favor, they will also make it clear that it only effects Government officials, not religious organizations.

What won’t they obey? No one’s saying they’re forced to perform SSMs. And those who contend SSM violates religious freedom ignore that there are some religious people who are happy to perform SSMs.

338 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 9:03:31am

re: #330 makeitstop

Creepy vehicle of the day

Man, would that make a kickass restoration project or what?

Only if they reboot “The Munsters”.

339 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 9:04:18am

re: #336 Bubblehead II

Well if the SCOTUS does find SSM bans to be unconstitutional, the fundies already have a plan in place.

‘We will not obey’: Christian leaders threaten civil disobedience if Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage

“We will not obey.”

That’s the blunt warning a group of prominent religious leaders is sending to the Supreme Court of the United States as they consider same-sex marriage.

Nothing like a bit of useless saber rattling from the usual suspects. A ruling in favor of SSM isn’t going suddenly force churches to perform them. In fact if SCOTUS does rule in favor, they will also make it clear that it only effects Government officials, not religious organizations.

Sound and fury signifying nothing. I would hope eroding support as the followers realize that it was hollow yelling and grifting.

340 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 9:04:38am

re: #336 Bubblehead II

Well if the SCOTUS does find SSM bans to be unconstitutional, the fundies already have a plan in place.

‘We will not obey’: Christian leaders threaten civil disobedience if Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage

“We will not obey.”

That’s the blunt warning a group of prominent religious leaders is sending to the Supreme Court of the United States as they consider same-sex marriage.

Nothing like a bit of useless saber rattling from the usual suspects. A ruling in favor of SSM isn’t going suddenly force churches to perform them. In fact if SCOTUS does rule in favor, they will also make it clear that it only effects Government officials, not religious organizations.

Basically, the religious right wingers.

defendmarriage.org

341 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 9:05:53am

Some fucking idiot is splaining to me that TEH DEMOCRATS!!!!!! caused “Trickle Down” to fail.

Muted.

342 Bubblehead II  Apr 29, 2015 9:05:53am

re: #337 HappyWarrior

What won’t they obey? No one’s saying they’re forced to perform SSMs. And those who contend SSM violates religious freedom ignore that there are some religious people who are happy to perform SSMs.

Exactly. That’s why I characterized this little stunt as nothing more than useless saber rattling.

343 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 9:06:18am

Hmm, scientists at work.

MSNBC - creating “ghosts” in a lab

And I see NASA is going to slam a probe into Mercury.

344 blueraven  Apr 29, 2015 9:06:45am

re: #169 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Pat Buchanan wears a bag of cloves around his neck to cover the old man smell.

He was Nixon’s man during the Kent State killings. “Fuck em” to the 4 dead.
Of course, shockingly, that was the majority opinion of the nation at the time.

345 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2015 9:07:03am

re: #343 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm, scientists at work.

MSNBC - creating “ghosts” in a lab

And I see NASA is going to slam a probe into Mercury.

That’s what she…
Never mind.

346 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 9:07:19am

re: #342 Bubblehead II

Exactly. That’s why I characterized this little stunt as nothing more than useless saber rattling.

To be followed by proclamations of victory when a year from now they haven’t been forced to do any such marriages.
/// :p

347 BeachDem  Apr 29, 2015 9:07:33am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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348 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:08:33am

re: #341 Lord Of The Pies

Some fucking idiot is splaining to me that TEH DEMOCRATS!!!!!! caused “Trickle Down” to fail.

Muted.

Trickle down economics has always been a load of shit. Even H.W Bush admitted as much.

349 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 9:08:47am

I wish someone would invent a time travel machine that would send all those relic-loving RWNJs back in time to the 18th, 12th, or 1st, or any other century they chose.

They’d hate it. I mean, think of the implications for them.

350 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:09:17am

re: #342 Bubblehead II

Exactly. That’s why I characterized this little stunt as nothing more than useless saber rattling.

They’re such little drama queens. WE WON’T DO WHAT WE WON’T HAVE TO DO! And anyone who is half way sane is looking at these guys and thinking are you shitting me?

351 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:09:38am

re: #349 Justanotherhuman

I wish someone would invent a time travel machine that would send all those relic-loving RWNJs back in time to the 18th, 12th, or 1st, or any other century they chose.

They’d hate it. I mean, think of the implications for them.

I wouldn’t want to punish my ancestors with such awful neighbors.

352 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 9:10:02am

re: #349 Justanotherhuman

I wish someone would invent a time travel machine that would send all those relic-loving RWNJs back in time to the 18th, 12th, or 1st, or any other century they chose.

They’d hate it. I mean, think of the implications for them.

Besides needing to know French and/or some Latin to get anywhere in polite society?
//

353 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 9:11:09am

re: #334 Feline Fearless Leader

Which has no impact on the US allowing same-sex marriage. Or forcing religious officials in the US to marry couples. (Note, if the same person has an official state office like being a court clerk or JotP then it’s a new ballgame - put that is due to their state office, not their religious one since the two are separate.)

These people still confuse the sacrament of Holy Matrimony with the civil status of marriage. Churches are free to deny the former to anyone they see unfit, the point is that the law compels them to recognize the latter for everyone.

354 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 9:11:51am

re: #351 HappyWarrior

I wouldn’t want to punish my ancestors with such awful neighbors.

Just suggest the Oregon Trail to them? (the awful neighbors, not your ancestors.)

355 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 9:12:35am
356 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 9:14:41am

Mayor must have gottten a lot of calls about her initial comments.

Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake: ‘I wanted to clarify my comments on “thugs.” When you speak out of frustration and anger, 1 can say things in a way that you don’t mean’; Monday night ‘we saw misguided young people who need to be held accountable, but who also need support. And my comments then didn’t convey that’ - @MayorSRB
see original on twitter.com

357 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:14:46am

re: #354 Feline Fearless Leader

Just suggest the Oregon Trail to them? (the awful neighbors, not your ancestors.)

That’s fine then since pretty much all my family was still in Europe or in Pittsburgh when the Oregon Trail was at its peak.

358 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 9:16:31am

re: #353 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

These people still confuse the sacrament of Holy Matrimony with the civil status of marriage. Churches are free to deny the former to anyone they see unfit, the point is that the law compels them to recognize the latter for everyone.

Is it really surprising that this confusion abounds since they think the US is actually a religious state - luckily supposedly conforming their the rules of their particular Christian sub-cult.

Or simply convenient since they don’t want to face the reality that the civil culture in this country is secular and not tightly tied to religion.

359 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 9:17:21am

re: #358 Feline Fearless Leader

Is it really surprising that this confusion abounds since they think the US is actually a religious state - luckily supposedly conforming their the rules of their particular Christian sub-cult.

Or simply convenient since they don’t want to face the reality that the civil culture in this country is secular and not tightly tied to religion.

a bit of both, I suppose

360 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 9:17:22am

re: #337 HappyWarrior

What won’t they obey? No one’s saying they’re forced to perform SSMs. And those who contend SSM violates religious freedom ignore that there are some religious people who are happy to perform SSMs.

I wonder how much time they spend helping the least among them as opposed to how much time they spend rending their garments about issues like SSM.

361 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 9:17:23am

Dim Jim just retweeted this, get ready for a BOMBSHELL==>

362 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:18:09am

re: #360 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I wonder how much time they spend helping the least among them as opposed to how much time they spend rending their garments about issues like SSM.

And there you have why in a nutshell why I am skeptical of organized religion. So much energy and money going into telling gay people YOU DON’T DESERVE EQUAL RIGHTS when they could be helping people out.

363 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 9:18:32am

re: #340 Justanotherhuman

But I thought their message to all the urban people was to OBEY THE POLICE AND AUTHORITIES IN EVERYTHING!!!!!

364 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:18:57am

re: #361 Lord Of The Pies

Dim Jim just retweeted this, get ready for a BOMBSHELL==>

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Considering many of them (conservatives) like to wave Confederate flags, a flag that killed more Americans than ISIS has, I don’t want to hear it from them.

365 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 9:18:59am

re: #356 Justanotherhuman

Mayor must have gottten a lot of calls about her initial comments.

Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake: ‘I wanted to clarify my comments on “thugs.” When you speak out of frustration and anger, 1 can say things in a way that you don’t mean’; Monday night ‘we saw misguided young people who need to be held accountable, but who also need support. And my comments then didn’t convey that’ - @MayorSRB
see original on twitter.com

Maybe the mayor needs to think carefully rather than just spouting things in frustration and anger.

Instead we get to see the zig-zag now as she fails to make anyone happy and looks wishy-washy, weak and easily swayed by criticism.

366 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 9:20:29am

re: #337 HappyWarrior

What won’t they obey?

We will not bake gay cakes and we will not rent or sell to gays!!!!!1

367 Kilroy01  Apr 29, 2015 9:21:12am

re: #361 Lord Of The Pies

Ah.. no.. not even close

368 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 9:21:20am
369 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:21:21am

re: #366 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

We will not bake gay cakes and we will not rent or sell to gays!!!!!1

You know, they can sell the cakes to me and I’ll find a gay couple that needs them and I’ll give them the cake for free as long as I’m invited to the wedding and get a piece of cake.

370 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:23:15am

re: #368 Justanotherhuman

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We hear lectures from white politicians like Rand Paul about why black parents aren’t doing enough with their children. Rand Paul, a man whose son was arrested for the second time involving misconduct while drinking. Really, I’ve had it with white conservatives in politics and the media lecturing black parents.

371 BeachDem  Apr 29, 2015 9:23:29am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

There’s a great documentary about John Cazale who played Fredo called “I Knew It Was You.” Such a fine actor who left us too young.

But wait—how can you, a young whippersnapper, know about John Cazale, who died in 1978, when upchuck, the smartest man on the planet never heard of JR Ewing? Something is amiss in the universe!!

(And I agree with you about Cazale.)

372 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:23:48am

re: #367 Kilroy01

Ah.. no.. not even close

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Yeah I figured it was bs anyhow. My point about conservatives who love to wave the rebel flag stands tho.

373 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 9:24:03am

re: #365 Feline Fearless Leader

‘I wanted to clarify my comments on “thugs.” When you I speak out of frustration and anger, 1 can say things in a way that you I don’t mean’; Monday night ‘we saw misguided young people who need to be held accountable, but who also need support. And my comments then didn’t convey that’

She also needs someone to edit her walk-back comments.

374 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 9:24:05am

“South Carolina muffler shop goes out of business. Cites religious prohibition of touching anyone’s exhaust system.”

375 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 9:24:47am
376 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:25:26am

re: #371 BeachDem

But wait—how can you, a young whippersnapper, know about John Cazale, who died in 1978, when upchuck, the smartest man on the planet never heard of JR Ewing? Something is amiss in the universe!!

(And I agree with you about Cazale.)

Hahaha I know right? I actually don’t really begrudge Chuck for not knowing J.R too much but that whole exchange did amuse me I have to admit.

377 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 9:25:53am

re: #372 HappyWarrior

Yeah I figured it was bs anyhow. My point about conservatives who love to wave the rebel flag stands tho.

You mean wingnuts are not experts at spotting ISIS flags?

/

378 De Kolta Chair  Apr 29, 2015 9:26:22am

From the Overlooked News Desk:

South Korean intelligence sources are confirming that Kim Jong-un has been stuck in this position for the past four days.
379 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:26:37am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why is he apologizing./// Japanese wingnuts. Seriously though, I hope Abe stays strong with this apology because it’s going to cause a lot of fury from hardline Japanese nationalists who see nothing wrong with their country’s conduct during WWII.

380 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:26:50am

re: #377 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

You mean wingnuts are not experts at spotting ISIS flags?

/

The very same.

381 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 9:27:10am

A little lunch time music…

Full disclosure - I don’t even like Billy Joel, but I do love me some steel guitar. And this is stone gorgeous. Excuse me, I seem to have something in my eye…

382 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:27:30am

re: #378 De Kolta Chair

From the Overlooked News Desk:

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383 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 9:27:39am

re: #369 HappyWarrior

You know, they can sell the cakes to me and I’ll find a gay couple that needs them and I’ll give them the cake for free as long as I’m invited to the wedding and get a piece of cake.

OTOH, a decision on the side of SSM will enable enterprising people to open bakeries that will cater to gay and lesbian couples and take all the business. I mean, I’d go there in a heartbeat to gather up delicious bakery items anyway. I refuse to frequent any business that caters to bigots anyway and I know which they are around here. Mostly all of the small businesses.

384 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 9:27:45am

re: #378 De Kolta Chair

“Ha, comrade! My hat is bigger than yours!”

385 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 9:27:59am

re: #377 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

You mean wingnuts are not experts at spotting ISIS flags?

/

Just as good as they are at spotting Islamic prayer rugs on our borders.

386 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 9:28:14am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

Turkish officials unavailable for comment…

387 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:28:39am

re: #383 Justanotherhuman

OTOH, a decision on the side of SSM will enable enterprising people to open bakeries that will cater to gay and lesbian couples and take all the business. I mean, I’d go there in a heartbeat to gather up delicious bakery items anyway. I refuse to frequent any business that caters to bigots anyway and I know which they are around here. Mostly all of the small businesses.

Yep.

388 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 9:29:52am

re: #379 HappyWarrior

Why is he apologizing./// Japanese wingnuts. Seriously though, I hope Abe stays strong with this apology because it’s going to cause a lot of fury from hardline Japanese nationalists who see nothing wrong with their country’s conduct during WWII.

If Bush was president we wouldn’t be apol—wait, uh……

389 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 9:30:28am

He’s such a dweeb, Part II:

390 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 9:32:02am

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are a lot of whiners & pussies on the Internet who want you to give a shit about their nonsense.

I know just the type of person you’re talking about.

391 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:32:05am

re: #388 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

If Bush was president we wouldn’t be apol—wait, uh……

And i’m sure a lot of “red blooded Americans’ are like fuck yeah he should apologize but they’re the same people who go absolutely batshit if Obama or any US policymaker admits our own past fuck ups. For what it’s worth, I am glad he is apologizing because the Japanese empire did some deplorable things during WWII. Not just to American service members but also to the people of China, the Philippines, and various other countries/islands.

392 No Country For Old Haters  Apr 29, 2015 9:32:20am

re: #349 Justanotherhuman

I wish someone would invent a time travel machine that would send all those relic-loving RWNJs back in time to the 18th, 12th, or 1st, or any other century they chose.

They’d hate it. I mean, think of the implications for them.

As long as it’s to an alternate timeline. I’d hate to wind up in a wingnut dystopia because they altered the past.

393 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 9:32:39am

re: #383 Justanotherhuman

OTOH, a decision on the side of SSM will enable enterprising people to open bakeries that will cater to gay and lesbian couples and take all the business. I mean, I’d go there in a heartbeat to gather up delicious bakery items anyway. I refuse to frequent any business that caters to bigots anyway and I know which they are around here. Mostly all of the small businesses.

What difference location makes. Here In Los Angeles by and large the good guys are the small businesses, the bad guys are corporate franchises etc.

394 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:32:48am

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s such a dweeb, Part II:

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Yeah I know one of them. Red headed fella with a beard who’s been known to shit on the floor and fancies himself a journalist.

395 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 9:32:52am

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s such a dweeb, Part II:

A while back he was talking about burning down the establishment. How he just wants a mini-revolution. Weak.

//

396 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 9:33:35am

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s such a dweeb, Part II:

CCJ’s not being very nice to people like DimJim and Malkin.

/

397 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 9:34:26am

re: #392 No Country For Old Haters

As long as it’s to an alternate timeline. I’d hate to wind up in a wingnut dystopia because they altered the past.

The wingers would be dead within two months. The libertarians would be dead within two hours.

398 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:34:32am

re: #396 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

CCJ’s not being very nice to people like DimJim and Malkin.

/

or Joe Walsh.

399 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 9:34:45am

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s such a dweeb, Part II:

There are a lot of whiners & pussies on the Internet

Takes one to know one, I say.

400 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 9:36:17am

re: #399 makeitstop

Takes one to know one, I say.

The wife should smack his ass for implying women are weak and thus a valid insult term through the use of the word “pussies”.

401 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 9:36:30am

It didn’t seem to me like it, either.

402 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 9:37:23am

You fraudulent bastard.

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., moves to block new ‘net neutrality’ rules - @ReutersPolitics
read more on reuters.com

403 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:38:21am

re: #402 Justanotherhuman

You fraudulent bastard.

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., moves to block new ‘net neutrality’ rules - @ReutersPolitics
read more on reuters.com

He’s a busy man. Blocking net neutrality, running for president, and raising a drunkard son.

404 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 9:38:31am

Hmm. And no libertarians lining up to say that if the people in Baltimore are so upset at the police they should be able to actively deny their tax dollars going to fund said organization.
//

405 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2015 9:39:07am

Where are the dudebros on Baltimore???
/

406 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 9:39:23am

re: #404 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm. And no libertarians lining up to say that if the people in Baltimore are so upset at the police they should be able to actively deny their tax dollars going to fund said organization.
//

Their own fault for paying taxes in the first place…

407 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:39:29am

re: #404 Feline Fearless Leader

Hmm. And no libertarians lining up to say that if the people in Baltimore are so upset at the police they should be able to actively deny their tax dollars going to fund said organization.
//

There’s a lot of LINOs out there. Libertarian in name only. Basically chicken shit conservatives who are too ashamed to admit they’re right wing assholes because libertarian sounds like they actually care about liberty(they dont’).

408 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:40:11am

re: #405 Varek Raith

Where are the dudebros on Baltimore???
/

Yeah not a peep from Glenn Greenwald on this. Shocker I know.//

409 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 9:40:17am

What a psychopath==>

410 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:41:10am

re: #409 Lord Of The Pies

What a psychopath==>

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How the hell is that even close to a gay couple wanting the same cake with the same ingredients for their cake you twit?

411 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 9:41:28am

It’s Wednesday. They’re violating the law.

Officials: Most of the 235 people arrested Monday night during Baltimore riots remain in jail without being formally charged - @BuzzFeedNews
read more on buzzfeed.com

research.lawyers.com

412 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 9:41:51am

re: #409 Lord Of The Pies

What a psychopath==>

Guilty as charged. But I’d never tweet about it.
:(

(And I also know it’s not a reality. Too much time with Mad Max movies and playing “Car Wars” in my misspent youth.)

413 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 9:42:51am

re: #402 Justanotherhuman

Brave Sir Randpaul ran away.
Bravely ran away away.
When danger reared it’s ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Randpaul turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.

414 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:43:05am

Really Erick, let’s see your reaction if you ever go to a gay owned business and they say “Sorry, we don’t serve conservative Christians, we find your behavior immoral.” You’d cry discrimination and you know what, you’d be 100% correct. So Erick, why isn’t it discriminatory for so called Christian business owners to do that to gay people? Oh wait, oh wait, I get it. You want the law to favor Christian bigots like yourself over other people. Sorry pal it doesn’t work that way in America. Maybe in Calvin’s Geneva but not in the Untied States of America.

415 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:43:34am

re: #411 Justanotherhuman

It’s Wednesday. They’re violating the law.

Officials: Most of the 235 people arrested Monday night during Baltimore riots remain in jail without being formally charged - @BuzzFeedNews
read more on buzzfeed.com

research.lawyers.com

Due process is for suckers.

416 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 9:44:27am

re: #409 Lord Of The Pies

What a psychopath==>

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I just want a shit-eating pig so I can turn it loose in Erickson’s office.

417 Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2015 9:44:36am

re: #381 makeitstop

I tried to learn to play PSG in my 50’s. I’m sad to say it kicked my ass. My favorite instrument. And when played correctly, it just makes me shiver.

418 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:44:52am

re: #416 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I just want a shit-eating pig so I can turn it loose in Erickson’s office.

You don’t want CCJ believe me.

419 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 9:45:47am

re: #416 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I just want a shit-eating pig so I can turn it loose in Erickson’s office.

Sorry, CCJ is busy “working” in Dallas today…

420 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 9:47:38am

About that out-of-control cargo spacecraft:

It could take up to two weeks for Progress 59 to re-enter the Earth’s atmosphere, at which point it is expected to break up.

theguardian.com

421 Mike Lamb  Apr 29, 2015 9:48:08am

re: #246 Lord Of The Pies

While we’re all pointing & laughing at Chuck, Ben’s descent into blithering idiocy continues apace==>

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Gee, what other laws were in place at the time the 14th Amendment was ratified that were subsequently struck down on equal protection grounds?

422 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 9:48:17am

re: #415 HappyWarrior

Due process is for suckers.

Not if you believe in the Sixth Amendment. : )

Obviously, the BPD and DA don’t. Even if they’re operating under the Sixth, they can only hold them 72 hrs without charging as part of a “speedy trial” which is guaranteed to all. If a prosecutor doesn’t bring charges within the time limit, they must be released.

I’m sure there are lawyers out there working on this.

423 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:48:22am

You cannot serve one product to one part of the public and refuse serve to the another part of the public because you don’t like what they are. I may despise wingnuts. In fact, I find conservative ideology disgusting and morally incompatable with my belief system but if I were to open Happy Warrior’s Pub and Sean Hannity were to come in and ask for a Guinness, I couldn’t say “Sorry Sean, I don’t serve your kind here because I find your behavior and ideology immoral.” And if I did do that, Sean would be right to accuse me of discriminating against him and I would be. So wingnuts why is it okay to discriminate against gay people? Because they make you uncomfortable. Well then, if you’re that uncomfortable with gay people then might I suggest not starting a business that deals with the public then. I mean if you want to be a dick and refuse to attend your gay nephew’s wedding because you’re a petty dick, that’s not illegal, it may make you the worst aunt or uncle I’ve ever met but it’s not illegal.

424 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:50:00am

re: #421 Mike Lamb

Gee, what other laws were in place at the time the 14th Amendment was ratified that were subsequently struck down on equal protection grounds?

Precisely and as I said, the Bill of Rights was written while slavery was legal. He’s right. We did have sodomy laws when the 14th amendment was written but that has nothing to do with how gay marriage prohibitions violate the 14th amendment. It shows again how little conservatives like Ben actually understand our Constitution, a document they claim to venerate and understand better than any liberal.

425 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 9:50:26am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

The law says you have to serve them. The law does not say that you cannot spend the entire time you spend serving them regaling them with warnings of what the Bible says about gays and homosexuality and how much to disapprove of it.

Own it, you fundamentalists, this is your golden opportunity to convert them!!!

426 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:51:21am

re: #425 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The law says you have to serve them. The law does not say that you cannot spend the entire time you spend serving them regaling them with warnings of what the Bible says about gays and homosexuality and how much to disapprove of it.

Own it, you fundamentalists, this is your golden opportunity to convert them!!!

Heh I think that tool Fischer urged just that.

427 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 9:51:43am
428 Varek Raith  Apr 29, 2015 9:51:59am
429 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:52:05am

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m liking her already. Diligent.

430 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 9:52:07am

re: #425 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The law says you have to serve them. The law does not say that you cannot spend the entire time you spend serving them regaling them with warnings of what the Bible says about gays and homosexuality and how much to disapprove of it.

Own it, you fundamentalists, this is your golden opportunity to convert them!!!

Actually that’s “harassment”

431 Romantic Heretic  Apr 29, 2015 9:52:32am

re: #410 HappyWarrior

How the hell is that even close to a gay couple wanting the same cake with the same ingredients for their cake you twit?

Because good people killing bad people is normal. Two men getting married is not.

432 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2015 9:52:39am
433 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:52:43am

re: #428 Varek Raith

Ouch.
bleacherreport.com

and that’s why I was afraid of hitting once I hit the age of 13.

434 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 9:52:56am
435 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 9:53:15am

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

And now Space X will save the day. Really looking forward to independence from Russian hardware for our space program apart from the station.

436 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:53:55am

re: #432 Charles Johnson

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Those two deserve each other.

437 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 9:54:33am

assholes.

438 Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2015 9:54:53am
439 Bubblehead II  Apr 29, 2015 9:54:56am

re: #428 Varek Raith

Ouch.
bleacherreport.com

Read that earlier. Ball was clocked at 115 mph. Guys lucky to be alive.

440 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 9:54:58am

re: #409 Lord Of The Pies

I really want a death star style laserbeam on the front of my car to annihilate slowpokes in the left lane.
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) April 29, 2015

And Erick son of Erick is in seminary. Some lucky congregation might get stuck with him.

441 Skip Intro  Apr 29, 2015 9:55:02am

After a bot finds Twitter’s financial results early, stock plunges 18%

Company lost $162M in Q1 2015, and has lost over $1.5B from 2010 through 2014.

Twitter needs more trolls like CCJ to turn things around.

arstechnica.com

442 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 9:55:13am

re: #437 Backwoods_Sleuth

443 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 9:56:07am
444 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:56:23am

re: #439 Bubblehead II

Read that earlier. Ball was clocked at 115 mph. Guys lucky to be alive.

It’s a small miracle that only one man (Ray Chapman) has died from injuries sustained during a baseball game over MLB’s 100+ year history. And before the 50’s, no one wore helmets either and pitchers “head hunted” a lot more in those days too.

445 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:57:17am

re: #440 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And Erick son of Erick is in seminary. Some lucky congregation might get stuck with him.

Frankly, if they’re going to a congregation where he’s getting his seminarian’s certificate or whatever you call it, they deserve him.

446 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 9:57:49am

re: #417 Dave In Austin

I tried to learn to play PSG in my 50’s. I’m sad to say it kicked my ass. My favorite instrument. And when played correctly, it just makes me shiver.

I’ve got one, an old MSA Semi-Classic. I tried for two years to figure it out and gave up. Then a couple of years later I did a session for a friend’s alt-country band and it clicked.

That was about 15 years ago. I know enough to get by, but I really haven’t even scratched the surface yet. There’s a reason all the great pedal steel players are in their 70s. :)

Gary’s playing on that tune is breathtaking.

447 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2015 9:58:20am
448 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 9:58:21am

re: #441 Skip Intro

No wonder they won’t kick anyone off.

449 Mike Lamb  Apr 29, 2015 9:59:36am

re: #439 Bubblehead II

Read that earlier. Ball was clocked at 115 mph. Guys lucky to be alive.

Apparently, he doesn’t even have any concussion symptoms and no other serious injuries.

450 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 9:59:54am

re: #442 Backwoods_Sleuth

What could go wrong?

451 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:00:05am

re: #447 Charles Johnson

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There’s actually someone he loves other than himself or that gun he loves to show himself posing with looking like a psychopath?

452 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 10:00:30am

re: #447 Charles Johnson

So how is UpChuck supposedly getting death threats?

453 Ace-o-aces  Apr 29, 2015 10:00:58am

re: #361 Lord Of The Pies

Dim Jim just retweeted this, get ready for a BOMBSHELL==>

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I guess they think ISIS invaded Baltimore from their secret base in Mexico.

454 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 10:01:07am

Rally in front of State Attorney’s office.

455 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:01:13am

re: #452 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So how is UpChuck supposedly getting death threats?

People are saying mean things to him. Really for someone who loves to release the name of rape victims, he’s got some chops to act like he’s a victim of threats.

456 Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2015 10:01:16am

Happy Birthday Mr. Nelson!

457 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:02:03am

re: #454 Justanotherhuman

Rally in front of State Attorney’s office.

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Confused. Why is the state attorney’s office in Baltimore and not Annapolis? Any Marylander or anyone else who may know or undersatnd wanna help me out?

458 BeachDem  Apr 29, 2015 10:03:19am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

There’s a lot of LINOs out there. Libertarian in name only. Basically chicken shit conservatives who are too ashamed to admit they’re right wing assholes because libertarian sounds like they actually care about liberty(they dont’).

So you HAVE met my brother! (he’s recently adopted the libertarian title—claims it’s so his liberal neighbors are silenced when they question his wingnut philosophies.)

459 #FergusonFireside  Apr 29, 2015 10:03:28am

re: #437 Backwoods_Sleuth

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assholes.

They are setting them up.

460 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 10:04:53am
461 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:05:54am

re: #458 BeachDem

So you HAVE met my brother! (he’s recently adopted the libertarian title—claims it’s so his liberal neighbors are silenced when they question his wingnut philosophies.)

It’s really not people I know but observing. Glenn Beck claims to be a libertarian yet is steadfastly anti gay, anti-immigrant, etc. I remember a lot of these types were furious with the VA LP nominee for governor two years back because he was pro SSM, pro immigrant, etc. They hated that he talked about that stuff.

462 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 10:05:55am

re: #426 HappyWarrior

Heh I think that tool Fischer urged just that.

One point on which I cannot disagree with him.

463 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:06:15am

re: #460 Justanotherhuman

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Can’t wait to hear the apologies for this.

464 Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2015 10:08:44am
Brett, speaking only for myself, I agree with your point that the principle of peaceful, non-violent protest and the observance of the rule of law is of utmost importance in any society. MLK, Gandhi, Mandela and all great opposition leaders throughout history have always preached this precept. Further, it is critical that in any democracy, investigation must be completed and due process must be honored before any government or police members are judged responsible.

That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good, hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.

~Orioles COO John Angelos

465 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 10:08:57am

re: #457 HappyWarrior

Confused. Why is the state attorney’s office in Baltimore and not Annapolis? Any Marylander or anyone else who may know or undersatnd wanna help me out?

Maryland Constitution requires it.

msa.maryland.gov

State has an attorney general and state attorneys in all cities and counties.

466 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 10:09:46am

re: #430 Lord Of The Pies

Actually that’s “harassment”

In all seriousness, I am interested to find out how far they could go without it being harassment. Posting Leviticus 18:22 in big letters in the shop window? Simply stating that they disagree with gay marriage and are serving said customers only because it would be illegal not to?

But they do have to understand that they are not conferring any “blessing” on any union they find morally reprehensible, they just have to provide the same services to all their customers regardless of race, faith or orientation.

467 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:10:02am

re: #465 Justanotherhuman

Maryland Constitution requires it.

msa.maryland.gov

Ah thanks.

468 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 10:12:32am

re: #466 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

In all seriousness, I am interested to find out how far they could go without it being harassment. Posting Leviticus 18:22 in big letters in the shop window? Simply stating that they disagree with gay marriage and are serving said customers only because it would be illegal not to?

But they do have to understand that they are not conferring any “blessing” on any union they find morally reprehensible, they just have to provide the same services to all their customers regardless of race, faith or orientation.

I can not think of any religion that requires cake-eating as part of the marriage ritual.

CMIIW do Catholics receive the “Host” during the marriage ceremony? But even if they do that’s not a fancy cake that you buy at a bakery.

469 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 29, 2015 10:13:51am

re: #455 HappyWarrior

People are saying mean things to him. Really for someone who loves to release the name of rape victims, he’s got some chops to act like he’s a victim of threats.

But didn’t UpChuck also say mean tweets don’t equal death threats?

He’s weird.

470 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:13:59am

re: #468 Lord Of The Pies

I can not think of any religion that requires cake-eating as part of the marriage ritual.

CMIIW do Catholics receive the “Host” during the marriage ceremony? But even if they do that’s not a fancy cake that you buy at a bakery.

Never heard of that. I think the host is something only in communion but I’m not too familiar with Catholic ritual.

471 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:14:38am

re: #469 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

But didn’t UpChuck also say mean tweets don’t equal death threats?

He’s weird.

I hope he finds J.R during his trip to Dallas. Maybe he can find Jerry Jones and get some dirt on Chris Christie.//

472 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 10:15:14am

re: #468 Lord Of The Pies

I can not think of any religion that requires cake-eating as part of the marriage ritual.

CMIIW do Catholics receive the “Host” during the marriage ceremony? But even if they do that’s not a fancy cake that you buy at a bakery.

These are treats for the wedding party, not for the service itself. But again, these people have trouble telling the difference between the religious sacrament of Holy Matrimony and the civil state of marriage.

473 calochortus  Apr 29, 2015 10:15:42am

re: #470 HappyWarrior

Never heard of that. I think the host is something only in communion but I’m not too familiar with Catholic ritual.

I’m pretty sure communion can be part of a nuptial mass. Definitely does not involve wedding cake.

474 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 10:15:52am

re: #467 HappyWarrior

Ah thanks.

I added this: “State has an attorney general and state attorneys in all cities and counties.”

So instead of being “District Attorneys” they’re State Attorneys, and can be called other names, as well, all serving the same role, prosecutors for the State.

475 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 10:16:41am

re: #459 #FergusonFireside

They are setting them up.

I’m afraid you’re right.

476 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 10:16:56am

re: #468 Lord Of The Pies

I can not think of any religion that requires cake-eating as part of the marriage ritual.

CMIIW do Catholics receive the “Host” during the marriage ceremony? But even if they do that’s not a fancy cake that you buy at a bakery.

There is communion as part of a Nuptial Mass.
No communion if it’s the less formal ceremony Rite of Marriage outside of Mass.

477 calochortus  Apr 29, 2015 10:16:57am

re: #472 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

These are treats for the wedding party, not for the service itself. But again, these people have trouble telling the difference between the religious sacrament of Holy Matrimony and the civil state of marriage a party.

Fixed it for you.

478 Justanotherhuman  Apr 29, 2015 10:17:10am

BBL.

479 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:17:27am

re: #473 calochortus

I’m pretty sure communion can be part of a nuptial mass. Definitely does not involve wedding cake.

Yeah I think you’re right. In any case, the cake is definitely a new thing. The pizza that Memories was refusing to serve definitely isn’t. I was thinking about my cousin’s wedding last year though when that story came out. My cousin and her husband ordered a bunch of pizza after the ceremony and at the hotel because pizza is that great drunk food.

480 ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2015 10:19:33am

re: #344 blueraven

He was Nixon’s man during the Kent State killings. “Fuck em” to the 4 dead.
Of course, shockingly, that was the majority opinion of the nation at the time.

To many it is still their opinion. I got into it with a damn Kent State student who was somehow taught it was all the protesters fault. He was surprised to learn one of the shot and killed wasn’t part of the protests, was on his way to class…and the biggie surprise to him…was a good kid, an honor student, an Eagle Scout an ROTC scholarship applicant and He also earned the Association of the United States Army award for excellence in history.

Yeah…they killed a bad liberal hippie there.

*Spit*

481 Bubblehead II  Apr 29, 2015 10:21:14am

Marketing fail.

Bud Light: Sorry for saying it removes ‘no’ from vocabulary

“The perfect beer for removing ‘no’ from your vocabulary for the night,” the copy read in full.

482 Nyet  Apr 29, 2015 10:22:09am

483 Skip Intro  Apr 29, 2015 10:23:08am

re: #481 Bubblehead II

Marketing fail.

Bud Light: Sorry for saying it removes ‘no’ from vocabulary

“The perfect beer for removing ‘no’ from your vocabulary for the night,” the copy read in full.

Now with Rohypnol

484 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:23:08am

re: #481 Bubblehead II

Marketing fail.

Bud Light: Sorry for saying it removes ‘no’ from vocabulary

“The perfect beer for removing ‘no’ from your vocabulary for the night,” the copy read in full.

They should also be sorry for using August Busch’s piss and marketing it as beer.

485 #FergusonFireside  Apr 29, 2015 10:24:07am

re: #467 HappyWarrior

Ah thanks.

They suspended it.

486 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:24:52am

re: #480 ObserverArt

To many it is still their opinion. I got into it with a damn Kent State student who was somehow taught it was all the protesters fault. He was surprised to learn one of the shot and killed wasn’t part of the protests, was on his way to class…and the biggie surprise to him…was a good kid, an honor student, an Eagle Scout an ROTC scholarship applicant and He also earned the Association of the United States Army award for excellence in history.

Yeah…they killed a bad liberal hippie there.

*Spit*

That mindset scares me but I know it’s there. There’s a lot of crypto-authoritarian people in this country. I was reading a story about slavery on I think buzzfeed yesterday about how slaves were experimented on and someone using their real name and FB account and all stated openly that they hoped that we would do these experiments on criminals.

487 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:25:19am

re: #485 #FergusonFireside

They suspended it.

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Unreal.

488 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 10:25:30am

re: #485 #FergusonFireside

They suspended it.

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Every single one of them better sue the fuck out of the state. That’s got to be illegal.

489 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 10:27:09am

This could be CCJ’s next fake rape story:

490 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 10:27:10am

re: #486 HappyWarrior

That mindset scares me but I know it’s there. There’s a lot of crypto-authoritarian people in this country. I was reading a story about slavery on I think buzzfeed yesterday about how slaves were experimented on and someone using their real name and FB account and all stated openly that they hoped that we would do these experiments on criminals.

Experimentation on unsuspecting African-American subjects went on until 1972.

491 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 10:29:29am
492 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:30:31am

re: #490 Lord Of The Pies

Experimentation on unsuspecting African-American subjects went on until 1972.

Yeah Tuskegee and other things like that. Terrible.

493 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:31:54am

Revenge is an understandable feeling and I understand why people feel it but I see too much a desire to want to resort to medeval ways of dealing with criminals and crimes by my fellow Americans. Maybe a lot of it just hot air and people blowing off steam after being understandably horrified by crimes. But at the same time.

494 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:32:25am

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Everyone’s entitled a defense but that’s a really really fucked up defense.

495 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 10:35:59am

re: #494 HappyWarrior

Everyone’s entitled a defense but that’s a really really fucked up defense.

Flack is a “legal expert” for a tv station.
Jones is a former University of Louisville football basketball player (he got cut from the team for curfew violation and the criminal charges).

496 FemNaziBitch  Apr 29, 2015 10:36:11am
497 Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2015 10:36:57am

I’mma thinking that Pammy’s gotta be spitting nails right about now:

MTA Votes to Ban All Political Advertising After Judge OKs “Hamas Killing Jews” on City Buses

The nation’s largest mass transit system has voted to ban all political advertising on its subways and buses after a judge ruled that a pro-Israel group was allowed to display an advertisement containing the phrase “Hamas Killing Jews” on New York City buses.

The resolution passed Wednesday by a vote of 9-2 at the MTA’s board meeting after the finance committee approved it earlier in the week. The cash-strapped agency says such advertising only accounts for less than $1 million of its annual advertising revenue of $138 million.

nbcnewyork.com

498 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:39:30am

re: #495 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Flack is a “legal expert” for a tv station.
Jones is a former University of Louisville football basketball player (he got cut from the team for curfew violation and the criminal charges).

Sheesh.

499 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:40:10am

re: #496 FemNaziBitch

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Gah!

500 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2015 10:40:33am
501 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:42:46am

Watching the Orioles game. So weird to see Camden Yards empty. There are a few people peeking in through the gates.

502 FemNaziBitch  Apr 29, 2015 10:42:59am
503 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2015 10:43:14am

yep:

504 Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2015 10:43:47am

New Thread Charles!!!

This one is killing my phone��

505 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 10:44:07am

re: #501 HappyWarrior

Watching the Orioles game. So weird to see Camden Yards empty. There are a few people peeking in through the gates.

506 FemNaziBitch  Apr 29, 2015 10:44:14am

re: #497 Dr Lizardo

I’mma thinking that Pammy’s gotta be spitting nails right about now:

nbcnewyork.com

507 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:44:35am

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep:

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“Stop cherry picking my quotes and listen to what I actually said and read what I actually did.”
MLK.

508 Kid A  Apr 29, 2015 10:44:59am

LOL “gay agenda” LOL

509 Skip Intro  Apr 29, 2015 10:45:01am

Supporting the troops, the GOP way.

WASHINGTON — House Republicans are pushing legislation to block predatory lending protections for American soldiers, under pressure from the banking lobby.

GOP lawmakers tucked the deregulation item into the National Defense Authorization Act — a major bill setting the military’s funding, along with a number of other controversial terms on Guantanamo Bay and other issues. If the banking item is enacted, it would impose a one-year delay on new Department of Defense rules meant to shield military families from abusive terms on payday loans and other forms of high-interest credit. The bill is being considered Wednesday before the House Armed Services Committee.

Hey, these people give us money. Fuck the military. Fuck the poor. We’re the GOP and we know who we work for.

huffingtonpost.com

510 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:45:03am

re: #505 Lord Of The Pies

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Yep.

511 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 10:45:21am

re: #500 Charles Johnson

Blacks commit violent crimes at far higher rates than most other races, including whites and asians. Wherever blacks make up a significant percentage of the population, overall violent crime rates tend to be higher.

This was one of the first things I found when looking up the MAOA gene in the Internet.

And the assumptions behind it are telling: Blacks are most certainly arrested and convicted of violent crimes at a higher rate in our society. Might that have anything to do with law enforcement, social or economic conditions?

Heck no! It is ALL GENETICS!!!!

fer fuck’s sake.

512 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:45:26am

re: #509 Skip Intro

Supporting the troops, the GOP way.

Hey, these people give us money. Fuck the military. Fuck the poor. We’re the GOP and we know who we work for.

huffingtonpost.com

The GOP: Brought to you by the very wealthy for the very wealthy.

513 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 10:46:52am

re: #510 HappyWarrior

Yep.

HURR HURR WHY ARE THEY LOOKING OVER TEH FENCE FOR FREES, STEALING A GAME FROM TEH HARD WORKERS WHO PAID FOR THERE TICKETZ!!!!!!

514 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 10:47:46am

re: #425 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The law says you have to serve them. The law does not say that you cannot spend the entire time you spend serving them regaling them with warnings of what the Bible says about gays and homosexuality and how much to disapprove of it.

Own it, you fundamentalists, this is your golden opportunity to convert them!!!

I wonder how much of their other clientele would walk after that performance.

515 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:47:50am

re: #513 Lord Of The Pies

HURR HURR WHY ARE THEY LOOKING OVER TEH FENCE FOR FREES, STEALING A GAME FROM TEH HARD WORKERS WHO PAID FOR THERE TICKETZ!!!!!!

Nah the people shown on MASN were white :).

516 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:48:39am

re: #507 HappyWarrior

“Stop cherry picking my quotes and listen to what I actually said and read what I actually did.”
MLK.

Why the hell was this downdigned? I was mocking those who use MLK quotes selectively.

517 wrenchwench  Apr 29, 2015 10:49:46am

Yesterday I got a visit from a friend who I hadn’t seen in about a year. In that time he had a cancerous brain tumor removed. He told me about his 9 hour surgery and his quarterly visits to the Mayo Clinic to keep him alive, and I said, ‘I think I’d rather get hit by a car.’

518 Kragar  Apr 29, 2015 10:50:27am
519 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 10:51:13am

re: #518 Kragar

Pam looks like she’s drunk AND botoxed.

520 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 10:51:26am

re: #514 Feline Fearless Leader

I wonder how much of their other clientele would walk after that performance.

That is another issue entirely…

521 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:52:10am

re: #518 Kragar

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Bigots gotta stick together.

522 Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2015 10:54:22am

re: #518 Kragar

I see Teddy had made his choice for a running mate.

523 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 29, 2015 10:54:35am

re: #519 Lord Of The Pies

Pam looks like she’s drunk AND botoxed.

Talk about a marriage made in heaven…

524 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:54:48am

re: #522 Dave In Austin

I see Teddy had made his choice for a running mate.

Time for Chucky to start digging up the dirt!

525 wrenchwench  Apr 29, 2015 10:54:53am
526 FemNaziBitch  Apr 29, 2015 10:56:30am

Religious Right Serves Restraining Orders On Supreme Court Justices Ginsburg and Kagan

hmmm, isn’t this like Jim Crow for SCOUTUS?

“I don’t like the way you are going to vote. Since I can’t redistrict you or require a voter ID or Grandfather clause, I’ll just serve a restraining order on you.”

527 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 10:56:45am

re: #484 HappyWarrior

They should also be sorry for using August Busch’s piss and marketing it as beer.

That;s why they have all those Clydesdales.
///

528 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:58:47am

re: #527 Feline Fearless Leader

That;s why they have all those Clydesdales.
///

Beautiful horses, awful beer.

529 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:59:45am

re: #526 FemNaziBitch

Religious Right Serves Restraining Orders On Supreme Court Justices Ginsburg and Kagan

hmmm, isn’t this like Jim Crow for SCOUTUS?

“I don’t like the way you are going to vote. Since I can’t redistrict you or require a voter ID or Grandfather clause, I’ll just serve a restraining order on you.”

It’s a lot like how they claimed that Judge Walker couldn’t be impartial on Prop 9 because he’s gay but you know as well as I do that they would have been just peachy with an Evangelical Christian ruling on that case.

530 FemNaziBitch  Apr 29, 2015 10:59:47am

re: #528 HappyWarrior

Beautiful horses, awful beer.

Great advertising agency

531 Dave In Austin  Apr 29, 2015 11:01:07am

re: #528 HappyWarrior

Beautiful horses, awful beer.

When I was a yute, we called it “Swamp-Ass”. Just because…

532 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 11:01:30am

re: #530 FemNaziBitch

Great advertising agency
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Goes with the horses.

533 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 11:01:49am
534 Kryptik  Apr 29, 2015 11:03:06am

re: #507 HappyWarrior

I’ve been highlighting the ‘A riot is the language of the unheard’ quote from MLK, with the full context and link to the whole speech itself in various places the last day or so.

So far, it been mostly falling on deaf ears. People really want to cling hard to the caricature of MLK as the paragon that proves how awful most black people really are or something.

535 Dr Lizardo  Apr 29, 2015 11:04:07am

re: #528 HappyWarrior

Beautiful horses, awful beer.

You need this:

The real Budweiser - accept no substitutes.

The grocery store across the street has it on sale - 32 cents/ pint bottle. No kidding.

536 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 11:05:54am

re: #534 Kryptik

I’ve been highlighting the ‘A riot is the language of the unheard’ quote from MLK, with the full context and link to the whole speech itself in various places the last day or so.

So far, it been mostly falling on deaf ears. People really want to cling hard to the caricature of MLK as the paragon that proves how awful most black people really are or something.

I paraphrased the enemy of progress in civil rights is not the klansmen but the white moderate this morning.

537 FemNaziBitch  Apr 29, 2015 11:06:21am

Damn! I never saw this one. *sob*

538 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 11:06:23am

re: #535 Dr Lizardo

You need this:

Embedded Image

The real Budweiser - accept no substitutes.

The grocery store across the street has it on sale - 32 cents/ pint bottle. No kidding.

Yeah your country knows its beer.

539 FemNaziBitch  Apr 29, 2015 11:06:50am
540 ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2015 11:06:59am

re: #518 Kragar

Dean Obeidallah @Deanofcomedy
Here’s Ted Cruz posing for a photo with Anti-Muslim activist Pam Geller - I wonder if she is advising him?
8:57 AM - 29 Apr 2015

MY EYES!!!

That one needed a warning of some kind. /

541 ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2015 11:08:21am

re: #530 FemNaziBitch

Great advertising agency
[Embedded content]

Huge budget!

542 TedStriker  Apr 29, 2015 11:14:52am

re: #517 wrenchwench

Yesterday I got a visit from a friend who I hadn’t seen in about a year. In that time he had a cancerous brain tumor removed. He told me about his 9 hour surgery and his quarterly visits to the Mayo Clinic to keep him alive, and I said, ‘I think I’d rather get hit by a car.’

I see what you did there…

/

543 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 29, 2015 12:01:28pm
Now which pee is it in that bottle?

;P


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