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1 Kragar  Apr 29, 2015 6:42:22pm

Wolf Blitzer: “Its hard to believe this kind of thing is happening.”

2 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:42:52pm

Right on as always. I am gonna miss Jon.

3 EPR-radar  Apr 29, 2015 6:46:37pm

Only $6 million in payouts for police brutality? Chicago will be visiting Baltimore for lessons learned.///

Chicago has apparently forked out half a billion dollars in police brutality settlements since 2004.dailykos.com

4 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 6:47:21pm

The Baltimore Sun has a feature on the police brutality. It’s horrifying. Police brutality is a real problem in this country.

5 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 6:49:59pm

How many downdings makes a Page go away?
littlegreenfootballs.com

6 #FergusonFireside  Apr 29, 2015 6:51:24pm

And awaaaaay we go.

Freddie severed his own spine.

7 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 6:52:24pm

re: #5 Great White Snark

How many downdings makes a Page go away?
littlegreenfootballs.com

10

8 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 6:53:19pm

re: #7 Lord Of The Pies

10

Well then 7 to go if no one minds my suggesting… Just the headline is a wart on the page.

9 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 6:55:46pm

re: #6 #FergusonFireside

Well since the previous injury con fell through we now have plan b. A confidential informant looking for reduced charges no doubt.

10 Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 29, 2015 6:56:42pm

re: #3 EPR-radar

Only $6 million in payouts for police brutality? Chicago will be visiting Baltimore for lessons learned.///

Chicago has apparently forked out half a billion dollars in police brutality settlements since 2004.dailykos.com

That is because Maryland has a $200,000 cap on civil suits against municipalities.

If this was California, the figure would easily be double that.

11 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2015 6:59:08pm

Israeli settlements need to stop, in my opinion. But propaganda also sucks.

12 stpaulbear  Apr 29, 2015 6:59:08pm

re: #8 Great White Snark

Is there an army of ‘Truth Hurts’ trolls or does this one guy (always a guy) just get around a lot? Seems like every blog I’ve ever visited has a condescending troll named Truth Hurts (or some misspelling). It’s never a wrong decision to scroll past it’s posts.

13 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2015 6:59:48pm

re: #3 EPR-radar

NYC has paid out nearly $1 billion in suits from NYPD actions. That’s for the period of 2000-2010. Some of those cases are only tangentially related to the NYPD, but consider that the tally includes the Sean Bell shooting (2006) that resulted in more than $7 million paid out to the Bell family and the families of two others who were shot.

In 2012, the NYPD paid out nearly $4 million to the Ramarly Graham family for that fatal shooting incident.

14 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 7:02:07pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY, EVENING EDITION==>

15 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 7:02:25pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Israeli settlements need to stop, in my opinion. But propaganda also sucks.

And the Palestinian complicity, i.e. the managers taking the kids money after arranging the er employment somehow was just not in the Page. Very telling in my view.

16 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2015 7:03:34pm

re: #12 stpaulbear

Anyone who registers a username with the word “TRUTH” in it is a big red flag here at LGF.

17 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:03:47pm

re: #14 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY, EVENING EDITION==>

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They’re weird. I would advise seeking psychiatric help to that one.

18 Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 29, 2015 7:04:02pm

re: #5 Great White Snark

How many downdings makes a Page go away?
littlegreenfootballs.com

The story may well be entirely legit, and I saw nothing to suggest it wasn’t.

America was built on exploiting child labor…and much of the world continues to do so. We still exploit people in quasi slave labor situations (see: Chinese women held in sweatshops and brothels in American Samoa, Saipan and Guam), but we usually make sure they are adults.

Usually.

I fail to see why Israel would be magically be free of unscrupulous assholes, since the rest of humanity seems to have no shortage of them.

19 EPR-radar  Apr 29, 2015 7:04:16pm

re: #13 lawhawk

Half a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon that adds up to some real money.

It would be nice to see ‘fiscal conservatives’ react by taking real steps to reduce the number of police brutality incidents.

20 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 7:05:08pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

They’re weird. I would advise seeking psychiatric help to that one.

It’s a popular wingnut meme to make up a bunch of stupid shit and then say THIS IS WHAT OBAMA THINKS!!!!1!!!

21 Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 29, 2015 7:05:58pm

re: #15 Great White Snark

And the Palestinian complicity, i.e. the managers taking the kids money after arranging the er employment somehow was just not in the Page. Very telling in my view.

You must have missed it.

The Palestinian middlemen/managers maximize their profits by under-reporting how many children are working for them so they can pay less insurance. The children are not paid overtime, sick leave or holiday pay.

Plenty off assholes to go around on both sides of the fence. Human nature sucks.

22 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2015 7:06:06pm

re: #14 Lord Of The Pies

Funny how the ideal Americans are essentially whites from the 1950s. I daresay that they’d be perfectly fine with the Jim Crow and segregation that was prevalent before desegregation.

23 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:06:45pm

re: #20 Lord Of The Pies

It’s a popular wingnut meme to make up a bunch of stupid shit and then say THIS IS WHAT OBAMA THINKS!!!!1!!!

I know. It’s just so weird and absurd even for a dumb wingnut twitter meme. I was going to respond with some glib like “Most of the transvestites I know are hard working, god fearing people.” I just have to laugh at stupid crap like that because it’s just so stupid that it doesn’t even anger me.

24 gwangung  Apr 29, 2015 7:07:05pm

re: #3 EPR-radar

Only $6 million in payouts for police brutality? Chicago will be visiting Baltimore for lessons learned.///

Chicago has apparently forked out half a billion dollars in police brutality settlements since 2004.dailykos.com

Given that settlements are capped, maybe not so surprising.

25 Kragar  Apr 29, 2015 7:07:30pm
26 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:07:44pm

re: #22 lawhawk

Funny how the ideal Americans are essentially whites from the 1950s. I daresay that they’d be perfectly fine with the Jim Crow and segregation that was prevalent before desegregation.

They do claim to see the 50’s as the most ideal time but they do love using MLK quotes to patronize African Americans.

27 De Kolta Chair  Apr 29, 2015 7:08:11pm

‘Night gators. Take us out, if you would please, Miss Mary Ann & The Ragtime Wranglers

Youtube Video

28 Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 29, 2015 7:08:21pm

re: #15 Great White Snark

And the Palestinian complicity, i.e. the managers taking the kids money after arranging the er employment somehow was just not in the Page. Very telling in my view.

Were you meaning that the quote wasn’t in the LGF page?

Maybe I didn’t understand you.

29 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2015 7:09:15pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

The settlements aren’t helping, but they aren’t the obstacle to peace that Palestinians make them out to be. Settlements can be transferred and reassigned - it’s happened before - in Sinai after Camp David and even with the Gaza disengagement.

If a peace deal could ever be reached, there will be land swaps as part of that deal. That would necessarily include settlements being vacated or consolidated, with some of those settlements being given over to Palestinians for their use.

But the extremists will use the settlements as a cudgel - on both sides.

30 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 7:10:46pm

re: #18 Aunty Entity Dragon

Well I rarely disagree with those that had a +1 there but to me that Page just reeks of agit prop. Come on we Pager Authors can clip in enough to show the far more balanced content than the headline. To hear the Palestinians tell it in the article this is a mutual exploit.

31 sagehen  Apr 29, 2015 7:14:07pm

re: #13 lawhawk

NYC has paid out nearly $1 billion in suits from NYPD actions. That’s for the period of 2000-2010. Some of those cases are only tangentially related to the NYPD, but consider that the tally includes the Sean Bell shooting (2006) that resulted in more than $7 million paid out to the Bell family and the families of two others who were shot.

In 2012, the NYPD paid out nearly $4 million to the Ramarly Graham family for that fatal shooting incident.

Just for fun, let’s think of what we could have spent that money on instead (plus whatever we spent on legal fees), if only the taxpayers hadn’t had to spend it on the cops’ sport-killing.

32 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2015 7:15:32pm

re: #29 lawhawk

It’s not the settlements that are the real problem - it’s the settlers. A lot of these people are religious fanatics who are deliberately trying to provoke conflict with Palestinians. If settlements were populated by people who were actually trying to find solutions and coexist with Palestinians, it would be a very different story - but that isn’t what’s happening.

33 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 29, 2015 7:15:43pm

All right, this is cool==>

34 lawhawk  Apr 29, 2015 7:16:15pm

re: #31 sagehen

For a fraction of that amount, they could have outfitted every cop with bullet proof vests, body cameras, and had enough spare change to pay for a significant part of the 2d Ave Subway extension.

35 Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 29, 2015 7:17:15pm

re: #29 lawhawk

The settlements aren’t helping, but they aren’t the obstacle to peace that Palestinians make them out to be.

You are making an assumption that may have no relation at all to what the Palestinian general public thinks.

If they consider the settlements to be the fucking deal breaker of all eternity (and I would not want to underestimate obstinancy on that topic after the amount of blood and treasure that has been committed), then it will be the deal breaker. In any event both sides have 3 generations of dead kids and bloody shirts to wave around (and I will never forgive or forget the fucking sociopath who crept into an Israeli house and butchered their baby as a goddamned “political act”. After that one, I would have been willing to level the West Bank myself. Since bastards seem to be universal, I would also like to know who the hell kept directing…and correcting[!!!] artillery at those Palestinian kids on the beach last year until they were bleeding heaps)

36 b_sharp  Apr 29, 2015 7:18:58pm

re: #29 lawhawk

The settlements aren’t helping, but they aren’t the obstacle to peace that Palestinians make them out to be. Settlements can be transferred and reassigned - it’s happened before - in Sinai after Camp David and even with the Gaza disengagement.

If a peace deal could ever be reached, there will be land swaps as part of that deal. That would necessarily include settlements being vacated or consolidated, with some of those settlements being given over to Palestinians for their use.

But the extremists will use the settlements as a cudgel - on both sides.

I have to disagree with you. To the Palestinians, they believe they own that land so Israelis coming in and building communities is emotionally equivalent to a stranger coming into your home and squatting in your living room.

37 Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 29, 2015 7:19:06pm

re: #30 Great White Snark

Well I rarely disagree with those that had a +1 there but to me that Page just reeks of agit prop. Come on we Pager Authors can clip in enough to show the far more balanced content than the headline. To hear the Palestinians tell it in the article this is a mutual exploit.

It looks that way to me.

Money makes on both side using the kids.

38 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2015 7:21:08pm

And yes, I know there’s plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Boy, do I ever know that.

39 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 7:22:32pm

If he’s around, Shiplord Kirel, thank you for being you, dude. I always dig your history knowledge and insight on all sorts of things.

I shared a photo you shared here earlier.

40 Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 29, 2015 7:24:08pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

And yes, I know there’s plenty of blame to go around on both sides. Boy, do I ever know that.

I don’t want to be the MBF here, since I actually do not consider the sides equal in this (looking at Hezbollah and Hamas. Fatah too, for that matter)

That being said, Israeli policies starting making it harder and harder for me to support about 6 to 8 years ago, and nothing Bibi has done makes it any easier.

41 Jenner7  Apr 29, 2015 7:25:21pm

Someone named Jayne Miller from WBAL TV is disputing the WaPo story about Freddie Gray hurting himself. She said that Freddie was alone for most of the time he was in there and the other prisoner was only with him for 5 minutes. She says the timeline and evidence do not match this WaPo story.

42 Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 29, 2015 7:25:35pm

Tired and hurt real bad. Having some fun with my folks visiting though, so I will be in and out sporadically until the weekend.

see everyone later.

:)

43 freetoken  Apr 29, 2015 7:25:50pm

Good for Stewart for calling out the mindless media.

There is so little depth in so much “reporting”.

44 Jenner7  Apr 29, 2015 7:27:17pm
45 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 7:27:18pm
46 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 29, 2015 7:29:16pm

re: #34 lawhawk

And a community rec center, playgrounds, after-school programs…

47 Aunty Entity Dragon  Apr 29, 2015 7:29:45pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Anyone who registers a username with the word “TRUTH” in it is a big red flag here at LGF.

I went back real quick to look at that.

Yeah, I didn’t catch that. My bad.

I have to agree. Using a real story in a dishonest way is agitprop.

Troll.

That being said, goodnight.

48 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 29, 2015 7:30:11pm

re: #41 Jenner7

They took him for a nickel ride. There is no doubt about it. None.

49 #FergusonFireside  Apr 29, 2015 7:30:17pm

re: #44 Jenner7

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WaPo got scammed by the Fraternal Order of Police’s PR dept.

50 gwangung  Apr 29, 2015 7:32:05pm

re: #49 #FergusonFireside

WaPo got scammed by the Fraternal Order of Police’s PR dept.

Man, it didn’t even come CLOSE to getting past the sniff test.

This is really pissing me off. The sheer contempt they’re holding the public is galling.

51 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 7:32:06pm

re: #28 Aunty Entity Dragon

Were you meaning that the quote wasn’t in the LGF page?

Maybe I didn’t understand you.

Yes exactly. In the article but omitted from the Page. Smells like agenda to me anyway.

52 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 7:32:51pm

Wait, so this second prisoner was separated from Gray by a metal partition, and could not see him, BUT he knows that Freddie was intentionally banging his head around with the intent to kill himself?

53 Jenner7  Apr 29, 2015 7:33:21pm

re: #49 #FergusonFireside

These are same tactics that St. Louis and Ferguson PD used. Misinformation that taints public opinion, investigations, and/or future jurors.

They’ll get away with it.

54 #FergusonFireside  Apr 29, 2015 7:33:43pm
55 Jenner7  Apr 29, 2015 7:35:00pm
56 Timothy Watson  Apr 29, 2015 7:37:07pm

Apparently the answer for awful hay fever isn’t just one benadryl, but two.

It’ll also help me fall asleep.

57 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 7:40:50pm

re: #56 Timothy Watson

Flonase has been a good friend to Dragon_Lady and myself.

58 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 7:41:19pm

Oh, and I love this little bit in the WaPo story:

The document, written by a Baltimore police investigator, offers the first glimpse of what might have happened inside the van. It is not clear whether any additional evidence backs up the prisoner’s version, which is just one piece of a much larger probe.

Look, everybody, a new variation on the “jailhouse confession.”

59 Timothy Watson  Apr 29, 2015 7:44:08pm

re: #57 Great White Snark

Flonase has been a good friend to Dragon_Lady and myself.

I’ve been using that and Zyrtec too regularly but the last couple days I’ve had awful hayfever that even benadryl couldn’t knock out (I took one pill before going to bed the last two nights because it makes me so drowsy). Took two tablets an hour or so ago and the relief has been amazing.

60 Belafon  Apr 29, 2015 7:46:37pm

I’m pretty good at damaging myself, but I’m having trouble figuring out how I would cross the pain threshold necessary to sever my own spine.

61 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 29, 2015 7:46:40pm

re: #59 Timothy Watson

I’ve been using that and Zyrtec too regularly but the last couple days I’ve had awful hayfever that even benadryl couldn’t know out (I took one pill before going to bed the last two nights because it makes me so drowsy). Took two tablets an hour or so ago and the relief has been amazing.

I’m congested up too. My car looked yellow when I went out to it a bit earlier, and it’s not that shade normally. :)

I’m going to crash and burn I think. I’ll see all of you later, and don’t forget, “The Fatter the Fly, the Happier the Lizard”.

RBS

62 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 7:48:30pm

Hay fucking fever. I can set my watch to it. Late spring (kind of happening now, but not really, but, who knows) in the southern Rocky Mountains - where I’m at - always results in a few weeks of hay fucking fever.

It’s coming. I’ve already had a sneezing attack or four in the last week. It’s coming. Timothy Watson, I feel ya, brother.

63 stpaulbear  Apr 29, 2015 7:49:04pm

re: #58 Targetpractice

Oh, and I love this little bit in the WaPo story:

Look, everybody, a new variation on the “jailhouse confession.”

I went over to the WaPo to see if they were getting torn to shreds in the comments. Huge mistake. I’ll never do that again.

64 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 29, 2015 7:50:46pm

re: #63 stpaulbear

I went over to the WaPo to see if they were getting torn to shreds in the comments. Huge mistake. I’ll never do that again.

Come on, you’re a PRO!!!!! You know the rule… NEVER READ THE COMMENTS.

RBS

65 Belafon  Apr 29, 2015 7:50:57pm

re: #63 stpaulbear

Of the two, the NY Times has better commenters.

66 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 29, 2015 7:52:01pm

re: #65 Belafon

Of the two, the NY Times has better commenters.

Pffft, we have the best commenters.

67 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 7:52:15pm

If someone pays $350,000 to see a boxing match, shit dude. I hope the fight lasts 10 seconds.

68 Belafon  Apr 29, 2015 7:55:26pm

Did anyone else see the video of Geraldo being intimidated (of which he deserved)? Here’s the DK link. Geraldo tried to get away, and the protester said:

Why are you running away? Talk to me. Just talk to me. Listen, a black man can raise his voice and you don’t have to be intimidated.

If Geraldo had been there to do actual reporting, he probably would have talked to the man. Geraldo was looking for a confirmation of conservative views, not news.

69 TedStriker  Apr 29, 2015 7:57:53pm

re: #68 Belafon

Did anyone else see the video of Geraldo being intimidated (of which he deserved)? Here’s the DK link. Geraldo tried to get away, and the protester said:

If Geraldo had been there to do actual reporting, he probably would have talked to the man. Geraldo was looking for a confirmation of conservative views, not news.

Geraldo, Hannity, and the rest of the Fox News roster are, by and large, shitstains on the drawers of humanity.

70 BeachDem  Apr 29, 2015 7:58:16pm

re: #60 Belafon

I’m pretty good at damaging myself, but I’m having trouble figuring out how I would cross the pain threshold necessary to sever my own spine.

It’s so similar to the stories of “suspects” in the back of police cars, hands cuffed behind their backs, who shoot themselves in the back—oh no, in the chest—whatever.

nbcnews.com

kdvr.com

gawker.com

And on and on and on…

71 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 7:59:06pm

Of course, the other flaw in this whole “he broke his own spine” business is that the BPD has been leaning heavily on the “No other injuries” bit from the released portions of the autopsy to dissuade suggestions that the cops beat the shit out of Gray. So how did he break his own spin by whapping his head repeatedly against the wall, but leave no injuries to his head?

72 freetoken  Apr 29, 2015 7:59:27pm

re: #68 Belafon

Geraldo may not have any particular views. He just wants his bread buttered by the best butter he can get, and that means getting straw to burn in Faux’s furnace.

73 Belafon  Apr 29, 2015 8:00:41pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

Of course, the other flaw in this whole “he broke his own spine” business is that the BPD has been leaning heavily on the “No other injuries” bit from the released portions of the autopsy to dissuade suggestions that the cops beat the shit out of Gray. So how did he break his own spin by whapping his head repeatedly against the wall, but leave no injuries to his head?

Maybe Baltimore police vans come with a mounted bar that has a sign reading “break spine here.”

74 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 8:01:58pm

And another question: If Gray was beating himself against the wall hard enough to do grave injury to himself, hard enough that the guy on the other side of the partition could hear it clearly, WHY IN THE HELL DIDN’T THE COPS STOP HIM!?

75 Jenner7  Apr 29, 2015 8:03:34pm

Welp, Fox is on this story. Reporter just said if this is true, it would “shatter the narrative they have here in Boston.”

Oh boy.

76 freetoken  Apr 29, 2015 8:04:01pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

It’s just so stupid of a claim that I can reject it outright.

One can’t break one’s own (presumably otherwise healthy) spine without using gravity as an assist, either falling from a great distance or lifting a very heavy weight significantly above yourself and letting it fall on you.

77 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 8:04:40pm

Whatever Freddie Gray’s transgressions were when he was alive, the man needs justice. The truth is being withheld about his death and Freddie Gray has no justice.

And neither do any of these folks have justice.

78 Kragar  Apr 29, 2015 8:08:21pm
79 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 8:09:41pm

re: #76 freetoken

It’s just so stupid of a claim that I can reject it outright.

One can’t break one’s own (presumably otherwise healthy) spine without using gravity as an assist, either falling from a great distance or lifting a very heavy weight significantly above yourself and letting it fall on you.

It’s the sort of scenario that a prosecutor would have fun tearing apart. Not only could he bring in a medical expert who’d look at the autopsy and say “There’s no way this could have happened,” but then he’s going to put each one of the cops on the stand and ask them “So, you have a suspect that is not properly strapped in, beating his head against the wall so hard that he ends up severing his own spine. The guy on the other side of that wall can hear this going on. But at no point did you or another officer think to stop the van, check what was happening, and put a stop to it? You allowed a suspect to kill himself while he was in your custody?”

80 Jenner7  Apr 29, 2015 8:10:23pm

Hannity is already saying the narrative has changed and also said there is no proof the police leaked this story.

Dear God, he’s an idiot.

81 stpaulbear  Apr 29, 2015 8:10:28pm

re: #64 RealityBasedSteve

Come on, you’re a PRO!!!!! You know the rule… NEVER READ THE COMMENTS.

RBS

I was hoping it might be like the ‘reader’s choice’ comments for NYT stories. Those comments are usually a joy to read. I picked the ‘most liked’ comments at the WaPo thinking it might be the same. Uh huh.

82 Kragar  Apr 29, 2015 8:11:35pm

Cooked up 3 strips of bacon, added french cut green beans, new potatoes, some pepper and garlic and served it with wild rice.

83 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 29, 2015 8:12:15pm

re: #82 Kragar

Cooked up 3 strips of bacon, added french cut green beans, new potatoes, some pepper and garlic and served it with wild rice.

I approve of the sound of this.

84 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 8:12:31pm

re: #80 Jenner7

Hannity is already saying the narrative has changed and also said there is no proof the police leaked this story.

Dear God, he’s an idiot.

No proof?! It’s right there in the damned story:

The document, written by a Baltimore police investigator, offers the first glimpse of what might have happened inside the van. It is not clear whether any additional evidence backs up the prisoner’s version, which is just one piece of a much larger probe.

You got the police investigating themselves, and you don’t think that they could have leaked this, Sean? You’re a fucking moron!

85 austin_blue  Apr 29, 2015 8:14:41pm

re: #70 BeachDem

It’s so similar to the stories of “suspects” in the back of police cars, hands cuffed behind their backs, who shoot themselves in the back—oh no, in the chest—whatever.

nbcnews.com

kdvr.com

gawker.com

And on and on and on…

“The suspect shot himself in the back 34 times, pausing only twice to reload.”

86 Belafon  Apr 29, 2015 8:16:24pm

Another piece of information, tweeted by a Baltimore reporter on the 23rd:

87 austin_blue  Apr 29, 2015 8:17:05pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

And another question: If Gray was beating himself against the wall hard enough to do grave injury to himself, hard enough that the guy on the other side of the partition could hear it clearly, WHY IN THE HELL DIDN’T THE COPS STOP HIM!?

Pffft. Perps do shit like that. What am I, a babysitter?

88 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 8:18:11pm

re: #86 Belafon

Another piece of information, tweeted by a Baltimore reporter on the 23rd:

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Wait, “mostly quiet”? So the prisoner can hear Gray beating his head so hard against the wall that he broke his own neck, but he’s “mostly quiet”?

Good god, can’t these morons even get their stories straight?

89 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 29, 2015 8:18:52pm

What thread mentioning Wolf Blitzer wouldn’t be complete without this?

90 austin_blue  Apr 29, 2015 8:20:18pm

re: #80 Jenner7

Hannity is already saying the narrative has changed and also said there is no proof the police leaked this story.

Dear God, he’s an idiot.

Quit invoking a deity. God has nothing to do with it. He’s a well paid idiot.

He’s just doing Roger Ailes’ bidding.

91 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 8:22:05pm

re: #70 BeachDem

It’s so similar to the stories of “suspects” in the back of police cars, hands cuffed behind their backs, who shoot themselves in the back—oh no, in the chest—whatever.

nbcnews.com

kdvr.com

gawker.com

And on and on and on…

Here I was, about to snark that perhaps the BPD saw the case of Victor White magically shooting himself in the chest with his hands cuffed behind his back, and decided that it was a challenge to come up with an even more bullshit story to explain the death of a guy in their custody.

92 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 8:22:15pm

re: #90 austin_blue

I’m not religious but I agree with this comment 100%.

93 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 8:24:20pm

You know what chaps my ass a little? Knowing that Rush Limbaugh is worth north of $400 million.

94 Mattand  Apr 29, 2015 8:27:13pm

Jon Stewart is absolutely destroying Judith Miller on TDS right now.

95 Lidane  Apr 29, 2015 8:27:27pm

Urge to break things, rising….

It’s bad enough that our asshole governor listened to Alex Jones and has decided to “monitor” the United States Army to make sure they don’t cart anyone off to the Walmart FEMA Camps of DOOOOOM. Now it turns out that the Infowars jackoffs think it’s a false flag and not Abbott being a pandering fuckwit.

96 austin_blue  Apr 29, 2015 8:28:18pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

I’m not religious but I agree with this comment 100%.

I’m not religious either, I was just talkin’ ‘bout Shaft!

Faux News is the new Blaxploitation “we’ll justify your existing prejudices” machine for nervous white folks.

97 Jenner7  Apr 29, 2015 8:28:54pm
98 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 8:29:28pm

re: #60 Belafon

I’m pretty good at damaging myself, but I’m having trouble figuring out how I would cross the pain threshold necessary to sever my own spine.

I’ve been skiing for almost 30 years. I have a multitude of first-hand knowledge of how skiing can turn body parts into pretzels.

Something stinks.

99 Lidane  Apr 29, 2015 8:31:39pm

*headdesk*

100 austin_blue  Apr 29, 2015 8:36:32pm

re: #95 Lidane

Urge to break things, rising….

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It’s bad enough that our asshole governor listened to Alex Jones and has decided to “monitor” the United States Army to make sure they don’t cart anyone off to the Walmart FEMA Camps of DOOOOOM. Now it turns out that the Infowars jackoffs think it’s a false flag and not Abbott being a pandering fuckwit.

An excellent example of what happens when a pandering pol (and oh, so naive a fuckwit as Abbot) tries to feed and calm a troll with the ego of Alex Jones.

He’s Chuckie with an actually existing radical, vocal, and activist base.

Chuckie wants it, prays for it, and would sell his mom into chattel slavery for it (well, as long as he could keep the basement), but Our Homeboy Alex is the real deal.

101 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 8:37:29pm

re: #99 Lidane

*headdesk*

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Riiiight.

102 allegro  Apr 29, 2015 8:37:37pm

re: #99 Lidane

*headdesk*

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A country that has had a war going on in it for a decade doesn’t have enough guns? They been shooting pop rockets all this time?

103 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 8:39:25pm

re: #99 Lidane

*headdesk*

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Ben, by law, every household in Iraq is allowed one AK-47 and one magazine of ammunition. Just how many more damned guns did they need?

104 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 8:39:34pm

Alex Jones, purportedly has a net worth of $7 Million.

He’s a millionaire by being a fucking sack-of-shit horrible human on internet and radio.

*spit*

105 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:40:45pm

re: #99 Lidane

*headdesk*

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He’s hopeless. Then again we’re talking about a man who was amazed about parliamentary government.

106 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:41:42pm

re: #104 teleskiguy

Alex Jones, purportedly has a net worth of $7 Million.

He’s a millionaire by being a fucking sack-of-shit horrible human on internet and radio.

*spit*

The fact that people like him, Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, and countless others are worth millions of dollars and living the good life while they spread lies and fears about our government is one of the many reasons I am not rah rah for capitalism.

107 Lidane  Apr 29, 2015 8:42:48pm

re: #100 austin_blue

An excellent example of what happens when a pandering pol (and oh, so naive a fuckwit as Abbot) tries to feed and calm a troll with the ego of Alex Jones.

He’s Chuckie with an actually existing radical, vocal, and activist base.

Chuckie wants it, prays for it, and would sell his mom into chattel slavery for it (well, as long as he could keep the basement), but Our Homeboy Alex is the real deal.

I don’t know if Abbott is naive or just a pandering fuckwit. Either way, I wanted to throw shit at work when I saw he’d ordered the Texas State Guard to “monitor” the United States Army.

I guess even Abbott knows he can’t go as far as the jabbering dipshits want, since the Texas State Guard isn’t actually considered military by anybody outside of Texas. They don’t get federalized in a crisis, they don’t get combat training, they rarely, if ever, carry guns, and unlike the actual National Guard, they don’t get deployed to active war zones.

I had some RWNJ mental midget try to tell me that the State Guard really truly are military troops. If that was the case, that would just make Abbott look worse and crazier than he does, since that would mean that a sitting governor was sending state military forces to oversee the federal government. Even Abbott isn’t that brain damaged. Yet.

108 The War TARDIS  Apr 29, 2015 8:43:25pm

re: #29 lawhawk

I disagree.

Netanyahu said that he would not allow a Palestinian State, and the Settlements are too populated and numerous to allow for an unruptured, contiguous Palestinian State.

It’s now far, far too late for a two state solution. The PA should disband, and force Israel’s hand.

I would be more sympathetic to Israel’s supporters, except for how Israel’s supporters treated a friend of mine who was MSA president 4-5 years ago.

109 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:43:41pm

I look at Abbott and it just astonishes me that Texas could get worse than Rick Perry.

110 BeachDem  Apr 29, 2015 8:43:47pm

re: #85 austin_blue

“The suspect shot himself in the back 34 times, pausing only twice to reload.”

Hey—it could happen, right? RIGHT??

111 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:46:21pm

I don’t believe a damn thing that comes from the Baltimore PD after reading the Baltimore Sun report. They got everything to lose if their actions resulted in Freddie’s death. And I don’t blame people for being angry at all. It’s a fucking culture of police misconduct where the police man that roughs you not up not only doesn’t have to worry about jail time but he doesn’t have to worry about his job. The maddening thing about it all though is it creates more mistrust in the police.

112 Lidane  Apr 29, 2015 8:46:44pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I look at Abbott and it just astonishes me that Texas could get worse than Rick Perry.

SRV help us all if the idiot rednecks in this state ever elect Dan Patrick governor.

At that point, I’d be all for an emergency airlift out of Texas for all the sane people.

113 blueraven  Apr 29, 2015 8:46:54pm
114 Great White Snark  Apr 29, 2015 8:48:13pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Well try not to forget the great examples of people of real wealth and skills. Elon Musk, Bill gates etc.

115 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:48:24pm

re: #112 Lidane

SRV help us all if the idiot rednecks in this state ever elect Dan Patrick governor.

At that point, I’d be all for an emergency airlift out of Texas for all the sane people.

Really hope it doesn’t have to come to that. Texas deserves better than that.

116 austin_blue  Apr 29, 2015 8:50:19pm

re: #104 teleskiguy

Alex Jones, purportedly has a net worth of $7 Million.

He’s a millionaire by being a fucking sack-of-shit horrible human on internet and radio.

*spit*

Actually, he’s a Trust Fund Baby. Filthy rich family.

117 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:51:09pm

re: #114 Great White Snark

Well try not to forget the great examples of people of real wealth and skills. Elon Musk, Bill gates etc.

I haven’t believe me. But when I see people making millions of bucks after selling fear to people, I get soured. I am not some revolutionary who wants to dismantle the capitalist system but I am disgusted with the idea that Beck can go on the air likening our government to Nazi Germany and say in so many words that the President of the United States is out to get him and like Adolf Hitler all the while he makes millions it tends to sour me. I have tons of respect for innovators like Bill Gates, Elon Musk, and others. I OTOH have total contempt for the fear merchants like the aforementioned who con millions of listeners to see their government as the enemy and to take millions of dollars. There’s something not right about that and I don’t think it’s what Smith intended.

118 allegro  Apr 29, 2015 8:51:22pm

re: #116 austin_blue

Actually, he’s a Trust Fund Baby. Filthy rich family.

That explains a lot.

119 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 8:51:31pm

re: #113 blueraven

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Here’s the thing, BPD. If you were intending to follow the Ferguson PD example, then you should have followed the first rule: No official reports. And by God, do not say shit to the press that you will have to work around when concocting your BS cover-up story later. Because there are now so many holes in this damned theory that you could use it as mosquito netting.

120 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 8:51:47pm

re: #116 austin_blue

Actually, he’s a Trust Fund Baby. Filthy rich family.

I did not know that.

*sigh*

121 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:53:54pm

re: #116 austin_blue

Actually, he’s a Trust Fund Baby. Filthy rich family.

Doesn’t surprise me. He’s been doing the fear merchant thing a long time now. He hasn’t worked a honest day in his life I bet.

122 blueraven  Apr 29, 2015 8:54:39pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

Here’s the thing, BPD. If you were intending to follow the Ferguson PD example, then you should have followed the first rule: No official reports. And by God, do not say shit to the press that you will have to work around when concocting your BS cover-up story later. Because there are now so many holes in this damned theory that you could use it as mosquito netting.

I am afraid this is going to end very badly. And nothing will change.

123 austin_blue  Apr 29, 2015 8:55:47pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I look at Abbott and it just astonishes me that Texas could get worse than Rick Perry.

And he’s not the real power in the State. That honor goes to Lt Gov. Dan Patrick, who make Wheels look like a flaming Liberal Socialist Fellow Traveller Commie Pinko.

Like Obama, you know, but without the foreign-born, secret Muslim half-breed thingie going on.

124 retired cynic  Apr 29, 2015 8:55:53pm

re: #112 Lidane

SRV help us all if the idiot rednecks in this state ever elect Dan Patrick governor.

At that point, I’d be all for an emergency airlift out of Texas for all the sane people.

Yes. ‘Juanita Jean’ says he is much worse, and I believe what she says!

125 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:56:43pm

re: #123 austin_blue

And he’s not the real power in the State. That honor goes to Lt Gov. Dan Patrick, who make Wheels look like a flaming Liberal Socialist Fellow Traveller Commie Pinko.

Like Obama, you know, but without the foreign-born, secret Muslim half-breed thingie going on.

Yeah I’ve heard about Patrick. My god.

126 BeachDem  Apr 29, 2015 8:57:16pm

re: #113 blueraven

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So—let’s put the bullshit stories in chronological order:

1. His spine was already injured in a car accident for which he received a payout and had surgery. BUZZ—Baltimore Sun debunks, showing that the court docs the bullshitters were claiming supported that story were about a settlement for lead paint.

2. An unidentified relative of one of the cops (so reminiscent of the Josie story from Ferguson) says cops did nothing wrong. Freddie was belligerent and cops couldn’t risk getting close enough to put seatbelt on him. That giant pile o’shit doesn’t even pass the sniff test.

3. Police report “leaks” (funny how that happens) that another prisoner, who couldn’t see a damn thing, could tell that Freddie was throwing himself around the van intentionally hurting himself. Jayne Miller from WBAL refutes that crock o’crap before the ink is even dry on the Washington Post’s ridiculous blind allegiance to accept whatever crap the police are throwing.

NEXT…

127 Jenner7  Apr 29, 2015 8:57:24pm

WHERE ARE THE FATHERS?????

Ugh.

128 allegro  Apr 29, 2015 8:59:07pm

re: #127 Jenner7

WHERE ARE THE FATHERS?????

Ugh.

Police killed ‘em.

129 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 8:59:49pm

re: #127 Jenner7

WHERE ARE THE FATHERS?????

Ugh.

The people who cry that the most are the same people who pushed the hardest for the drug war and for imprisonment over rehabilitation. It’s kind of like when they complain about run down urban areas when they’re the ones who have supported outsourcing industry and cuts in education for decades.

130 Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2015 9:00:36pm

Had to drag this one with us.

131 austin_blue  Apr 29, 2015 9:04:15pm

re: #130 Amory Blaine

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Had to drag this one with.

Did they allow beards at his boarding school?

I’ve got to say, he looks better with the beard. Without it, he appears, well, how can one say this without insulting the facially fucked up community- facially fucked up.

132 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 9:08:56pm

re: #131 austin_blue

He’s a doughy pudgy bastard. He’s a smoker and (we think) a heavy drinker. And he’s praised the merits of cocaine more than a few times on his Twitter.

Fuckin’ UpChuck, man.

133 psddluva4evah  Apr 29, 2015 9:09:33pm

Cher for the muthafu….win!

134 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 9:10:22pm

Anyone who’s sat on a jury in a criminal trial can see the majesty to this BS WaPo story. Even if its a total fabrication, there’s no way to really catch the other prisoner in a lie because he doesn’t say he saw Gray beating himself up, he just heard what he interpreted as Gray beating his head against the wall. So the defense now offers its own theory, saying that Gray actually injured himself while unsecured in the back. And so long as the jury can’t prove or disprove it, there’s reasonable doubt and these cops will go free or be convicted on a piddly lesser charge.

135 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 9:10:48pm

O_O

136 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:12:02pm

re: #134 Targetpractice

Anyone who’s sat on a jury in a criminal trial can see the majesty to this BS WaPo story. Even if its a total fabrication, there’s no way to really catch the other prisoner in a lie because he doesn’t say he saw Gray beating himself up, he just heard what he interpreted as Gray beating his head against the wall. So the defense now offers its own theory, saying that Gray actually injured himself while unsecured in the back. And so long as the jury can’t prove or disprove it, there’s reasonable doubt and these cops will go free or be convicted on a piddly lesser charge.

Yeah they’re hoping to cause enough doubt in the grand jury to hope for a refusal to indict. As I said, I don’t believe a damn thing from them which is probably why they wouldn’t let me be on any jury.

137 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2015 9:13:10pm

Lovely.

138 ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2015 9:13:57pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

And another question: If Gray was beating himself against the wall hard enough to do grave injury to himself, hard enough that the guy on the other side of the partition could hear it clearly, WHY IN THE HELL DIDN’T THE COPS STOP HIM!?

Before crashing for the evening, I stopped in to catch up bit and saw your comment. It reminded of something very similar.

I was with a friend and his about 6 month along pregnant wife at a Led Zep concert at Cincinnati’s Riverfront Stadium. (Yeah, sigh, that one of the infamous Who stampede deaths). I think it was 1977, maybe March.

The crowd was growing restless as the doors were late opening and it was a chilly evening. The crowd was definitely alcohol, herb and other fueled. The parking lot was a party and the walkways were jammed with ‘salesmen.’

The cops came and seemed to be there just for crowd control and weren’t really doing anything but watching. Pretty soon bottles were tossed and then more were tossed and the cops really were being intimidated and it was getting crazy. Soon there was a tussle of fools pushing at a line of cops.

For the protection of my friend’s wife we moved to the side of it all over by some cops. Suddenly this one police van started to sway and you could hear a guy in a drunken voice screaming “F’n pigs, let me outta here, bastards, let me out, I didn’t throw anything, Pigs!” Then you could hear a big wham and another wham to the van sides causing the sway.

Standing off to the back of the van was one of Cincinnati’s finest who noticed us talking about the guy in the van. He looks at us and says “When we get him downtown, he’ll say we beat him up.” He probably was correct. The dude in the van was out of it and doing a bang-up job of messing himself up. I suspect some type of Quaalude was added to the alcohol. He wasn’t feeling anything. Yet.

139 Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2015 9:14:46pm
140 Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2015 9:16:53pm

And of course, I NEVER spewed the kind of hatred that pours out of Chuck Johnson every single day, but these fucks attack me for renouncing the right.

141 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 9:20:53pm

re: #138 ObserverArt

Yeah, I think if there were enough drugs in Gray’s system to dull the pain to the point he could smash head until his neck snapped, then we’d have been informed about that by now. If this is true, then what we are being told is that the BPD allowed things to boil over into a riot while it knew all along that Gray had caused his own injuries and contributed to his own death.

142 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 9:22:04pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

What full_mcintosh fails to understand is that you are a purveyor of a general interest website (with a left-of-center political bent) with 100,000 page views and consistently over a thousand comments a day from hundreds of folks. In your right wing heydey on some days it was crazier than that.

Thousands of people saying stuff on a website that Charles Johnson runs is the same as Charles Johnson.

Stupid.

143 Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2015 9:23:29pm

State high court quickly ousts Shirley Abrahamson as chief justice

Conservatives on the Wisconsin Supreme Court picked Justice Patience Roggensack as their new leader Wednesday, dumping longtime Chief Justice Shirley Abrahamson after voters approved changing how the head of the court is selected.

Four justices on the seven-member court voted to put Roggensack in charge just hours after state election officials certified the April 7 referendum results, allowing court members to choose the chief justice. For the past 126 years, the state constitution had the most senior member of the court serve as chief justice.

The vote for Roggensack comes at a time when the court has been roiled by ideological and personal differences, and as Abrahamson has pursued litigation to remain chief justice until her elected term ends in 2019.

144 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 9:26:52pm
145 stpaulbear  Apr 29, 2015 9:28:40pm

re: #143 Amory Blaine

Wisconsin is so totally fucked up right now. I can’t believe how quickly that the state has been driven into the ground.

146 makeitstop  Apr 29, 2015 9:30:12pm

re: #68 Belafon

Did anyone else see the video of Geraldo being intimidated (of which he deserved)? Here’s the DK link. Geraldo tried to get away, and the protester said:

If Geraldo had been there to do actual reporting, he probably would have talked to the man. Geraldo was looking for a confirmation of conservative views, not news.

A younger Geraldo would have told me producers to screw themselves and put the guy on live. The Fox News Geraldo was scared out of his mind. I’ve seen that waxy smile on would be tough guys who get in over their heads with somebody who might really kick his ass.

147 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 9:34:39pm

re: #144 teleskiguy

How do you get on the list of donor heart recipients at age 99?

148 Targetpractice  Apr 29, 2015 9:35:29pm

re: #147 Higgs Boson’s Mate

How do you get on the list of donor heart recipients at age 99?

A shitload of money.

149 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 9:37:26pm

Shit like this is bad for cannabis legalization. This happened just down the road from me.

150 stpaulbear  Apr 29, 2015 9:43:36pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

Shit like this is bad for cannabis legalization. This happened just down the road from me.

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Upwind or downwind?

151 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 9:48:30pm

re: #144 teleskiguy

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6 damn.

152 Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2015 9:50:18pm

re: #145 stpaulbear

Their decision to oust Chief Abrahamson is a brazen politicization of the court. Had they a hint of decency, she should have been allowed to serve her term until 2019. It is the first change in over a hundred years after all and the wording in the passed amendment has no mention of immediacy.

153 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 9:52:53pm

re: #150 stpaulbear

Upwind or downwind?

I’m upwind, down valley.

Dude who ran the hash oil operation called the local newspaper two hours after the explosion.

About two hours after the explosion, Ryne Wilhelmi, 24, called the Vail Daily from the local hospital to tell his side of the story.

Wilhelmi said he was outside on the back porch of his Eagle-Vail townhome when a valve failed on his closed-loop hash oil system. They’re designed to keep highly flammable butane gas from escaping.

“The valve popped, and I jumped back,” Wilhelmi said. “When I did, the static electricity in my sweatshirt ignited it.”

The sheriff’s department hasn’t formally charged him, but they say they will.

The closed-loop system is prohibited in residential areas, the Eagle County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement.

“If you’re in a residential area, you’re endangering everyone around you, and yourself,” said Jessie Mosher, public information officer with the Sheriff’s Office.

Wilhelmi will be charged with reckless endangerment, a Class 3 misdemeanor; criminal mischief, a Class 6 felony; first degree arson, a Class 3 felony; and offenses relating to marijuana and marijuana concentrate, a Class 3 felony.

Full disclosure, I went to primary school with Jessie Mosher, her and I go way back.

154 Kryptik  Apr 29, 2015 9:59:33pm

re: #143 Amory Blaine

There really is no hope left for Wisconsin, is there?

And it’s apparently just as its voters fucking wanted.

155 Amory Blaine  Apr 29, 2015 10:02:40pm

GOP nervous about political fallout from cutting prevailing wage, leader says

Republicans who control the state Assembly won’t repeal minimum wages for private-sector workers on government construction projects, but there may be support for changing the law, a top legislative leader said Wednesday.

Assembly Speaker Robin Vos told a Milwaukee talk radio host that Republicans in vulnerable districts won’t vote to repeal the prevailing wage law because it would reduce paychecks for too many constituents too soon after legislators approved a controversial right-to-work law.

“While I support the repeal of prevailing wage, (it) is an actual cut in wages to an awful lot of folks around the state, and that’s where I think that a lot of folks in vulnerable districts worry about having taken a vote for right-to-work and then another one that would reduce wages,” Vos, R-Rochester, said on WISN.

156 BeachDem  Apr 29, 2015 10:07:55pm

re: #155 Amory Blaine

GOP nervous about political fallout from cutting prevailing wage, leader says

So they don’t really fucking care about people actually getting their incomes cut; they only care about how it will affect their own political futures, since they all rallied round the “right to work for less” bullshit. What a bunch of worthless assholes.

As if I weren’t already in a bad mood…Guess I’ll go to bed and read my Dennis LeHane book—reading about gangsters and mayhem in south Florida during the 1940s will be a refreshing break from today’s news.

157 austin_blue  Apr 29, 2015 10:09:22pm

re: #154 Kryptik

There really is no hope left for Wisconsin, is there?

And it’s apparently just as its voters fucking wanted.

The tyranny of the majority, but hey!, that’s our system until it gets to the Supremes.

Let’s see what they do with gay marriage in June.

158 goddamnedfrank  Apr 29, 2015 10:09:27pm

I like how Chuck’s followers choose to believe him when he’s obviously lying to them about easily provable shit.

159 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 29, 2015 10:09:36pm

re: #156 BeachDem

So they don’t really fucking care about people actually getting their incomes cut; they only care about how it will affect their own political futures, since they all rallied round the “right to work for less” bullshit. What a bunch of worthless assholes.

As if I weren’t already in a bad mood…Guess I’ll go to bed and read my Dennis LeHane book—reading about gangsters and mayhem in south Florida during the 1940s will be a refreshing break from today’s news.

At least those 1940s gangsters had the decency to hold a gun on you while they emptied your pockets.

160 Kragar  Apr 29, 2015 10:18:59pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Fucktard is a gamer gater as well.

161 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 10:21:30pm

re: #155 Amory Blaine

GOP nervous about political fallout from cutting prevailing wage, leader says

How about instead of reducing people’s wages because you’re a neu-feudalist fuck, you work on improving their wages. Nah can’t do that. Gotta please Governor Wanker and Governor Wanker’s wealthy pals. I swear the Republican Party as it stands now is nothing more than a party that exists for one purpose and that’s protecting the interests of the very wealthy at the expense of everyone else. They don’t even attempt to hide it anymore which in a way is refreshing since they’re finally being honest.

162 Kragar  Apr 29, 2015 10:30:00pm

re: #155 Amory Blaine

GOP nervous about political fallout from cutting prevailing wage, leader says

“If we keep this up, the average voter might start to notice we’ve been fucking them for years.”

163 Jenner7  Apr 29, 2015 10:58:38pm
164 Kragar  Apr 29, 2015 11:00:40pm

re: #163 Jenner7

165 teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2015 11:52:35pm

re: #158 goddamnedfrank

166 Kragar  Apr 30, 2015 12:32:12am

No.

167 Jenner7  Apr 30, 2015 12:35:09am

Just finished Babadook. So creepy….

Probably not a good idea to watch this so late at night….

168 Kragar  Apr 30, 2015 12:37:42am

re: #167 Jenner7

Just finished Babadook. So creepy….

Probably not a good idea to watch this so late at night….

Got my wife to watch it and she couldn’t get why it was scary.

She prefers gore to psychological horrors.

169 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 30, 2015 12:50:15am

Sat down last night and watched original “Dracula” with my kids (ages 9, 11 and 13) wound up with two kids sleeping in my bed…

the children of the night, what sweet music they make

170 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 12:54:24am

re: #144 teleskiguy

This nigga done had 6 hearts in his damn body. Jesus calling you BRUH you can’t keep hanging up

Hold this 10000$ bottle of wine and watch!

171 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 30, 2015 12:55:41am

re: #149 teleskiguy

Shit like this is bad for cannabis legalization. This happened just down the road from me.

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172 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 12:58:05am

re: #8 Great White Snark

Well then 7 to go if no one minds my suggesting… Just the headline is a wart on the page.

A lot of what (s)he posts might even be true, just as was the case with aigle (yes, propaganda can be true; sometimes propaganda is reporting the truth, but not the whole truth). But frankly I mind single-minded posters who don’t interact with us in the main threads or don’t have a lot of their own thoughts to add.

173 William Lewis  Apr 30, 2015 1:08:13am

re: #166 Kragar

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No.

It’s a pity that they aren’t going to make a movie with batman and Superman in it. It would be as cool as a Highlander sequel.

174 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 1:09:42am

re: #166 Kragar

I have nothing against Ben Affleck, but this photo confirms the fears.

175 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 1:13:25am

re: #167 Jenner7

Just finished Babadook. So creepy….

Probably not a good idea to watch this so late at night….

I probably don’t find any horror movie scary, but the atmosphere in the film was just great.

176 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 1:14:06am

It’s Ben Affleck cosplaying, nothing more. (But I’ll be fair and wait…)

177 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 30, 2015 1:21:37am

re: #170 Nyet

This nigga done had 6 hearts in his damn body. Jesus calling you BRUH you can’t keep hanging up

He really does look like he must be nourished with the blood of the living to stay alive…

178 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 1:27:03am

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

…

179 teleskiguy  Apr 30, 2015 1:33:44am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Hash oil is pretty much like free-basing cannabis. it should definitely remain illegal.

I disagree. There should be fairly stringent regulations on production of cannabis concentrates. That is certain. But should we outlaw high-proof liquors?

I love comparing cannabis to alcohol now, because folks used that comparison (over a number of years) to great effect in Colorado in 2012 to outright legalize cannabis (and three other states as of this writing).

Disclosure: I’ve smoked concentrated cannabis, and yes, it’s strong stuff. But in the end it’s just weed.

I was pretty ticked off by Maureen Dowd’s NYT column about her flying to Denver, eating some delicious cannabis confection, and completely losing control of herself and reinforcing her (and many Americans) opinion that cannabis consumption is dangerous and should be kept illegal.

Well, Maureen Down did it wrong. She ate too much in too short amount of time. I’ve done that too, it’s unpleasant. Remember drinking too much?

And these amateur hash oil producers with their exploding devices are doing it wrong too. The manufacture of cannabis concentrate shouldn’t be legal in residential areas. The process is certainly too dangerous. And facilities that manufacture cannabis concentrate should be tightly controlled by the state, of which folks who are participating in legal manufacture of hash oil in Colorado are already subject to.

It’s kind of crazy out there with cannabis law in the United States. I’m a Colorado native still living in the state, and all the little/big changes that have occurred since legalization is still pretty surreal. Cannabis concentrates and edibles have become a contentious debate topic, and I hope for sensible action when it comes to the regulation of those things.

180 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 1:34:08am

cracked.com

OK, that’s just going overboard.

Gay marriage was not uncommon in Ancient Rome; even the Emperor Nero publicly married at least two men. During the Ming Dynasty in China, it was not uncommon for older men to marry young men and bring them into their families as official sons-in-law. While Christianity officially frowned on men marrying each other, they also came up with a way around this taboo. Both the Eastern Orthodox and Catholic church allowed “brother-making” in which two totally straight single guys had an official ceremony telling everyone what good friends they were and how they were going to live together and pray together but totally not do any guy-on-guy stuff.

Of course the rumors about Nero marrying guys (and mind you, just rumors, not established facts, contrary to what Cracked wants you to believe) served exactly the purpose of showing that he led a life of debauchery and was otherwise a naughty fellow.
And no, brother-making was not gay marriage in any form. While some gays might have used the opportunity, it was not the function of “brotherhood” to allow them this. In fact, many (maybe most) “brotherhoods” consisted of actual brothers living together, and often these brothers were actually married (to women, mind you).

181 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 30, 2015 1:40:38am

re: #180 Nyet

I think the point is that the definition of marriage has been fluid over time, just look at all the variants described in the Old Testament.

182 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 1:42:45am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I think the point is that the chosen examples do not help to make this point and are extremely misleading.

183 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 30, 2015 1:49:58am

re: #182 Nyet

I think the point is that the chosen examples do not help to make this point and are extremely misleading.

that is true. but defining “Biblical marriage” as one man and one woman is a bit of a joke.

184 Varek Raith  Apr 30, 2015 2:14:13am

Good morning.
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185 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 2:15:01am

re: #144 teleskiguy

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fake news website.

186 Varek Raith  Apr 30, 2015 2:18:09am

A prisoner in the same van said he thinks Gray was trying to hurt himself, a report says.

He broke his own spine? I find that exceedingly hard to believe. WTF, CNN.

187 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 2:33:21am

re: #186 Varek Raith

Sounds quite unlikely indeed, and based on a single earwitness testimony. And just a retelling thereof. I’ll wait for something more official and credible.

188 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 2:41:56am

HOUSTON (CNN) —Mike Huckabee rallied a crowd of Hispanic evangelicals on Wednesday night, pushing back in the debate over religious freedom just one day after the Supreme Court heard oral arguments to determine whether states have the right to ban same-sex marriage.

“I respect the courts, but the Supreme Court is only that — the supreme of the courts. It is not the supreme being. It cannot overrule God,” he said. “When it comes to prayer, when it comes to life, and when it comes to the sanctity of marriage, the court cannot change what God has created.”

good grief

189 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 30, 2015 2:42:37am

re: #187 Nyet

Sounds quite unlikely indeed, and based on a single earwitness testimony. And just a retelling thereof. I’ll wait for something more official and credible.

what sort of jounalistic standards have we come to expect from CNN?

(I heard from someone who heard from his cousin that they are all ambisexual wombats)

190 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 2:47:39am

U.S. Senior District Judge John G. Heyburn II, a Republican who carved an independent and progressive path in three decades on the federal bench, upholding school desegregation and striking down laws that forbade gay marriage, died Wednesday, according to U.S. District Court clerk Vanessa Armstrong.

He was 66 and had battled liver cancer.

Heyburn was nominated to the bench in 1992 by President George H. W. Bush at the recommendation of Sen. Mitch McConnell but hardly followed in the conservative senator’s footsteps.

In two of his last major opinions, he struck down Kentucky’s constitutional amendment that barred same-sex marriage within Kentucky and the recognition of same-sex marriages performed legally in other states, saying they violated the right to equal protection under the law by treating gays and lesbians “differently in a way that demeans them.”

While acknowledging that gay marriage clashes with the religious and moral values of many Kentuckians, Heyburn wrote in 2014 that the “beauty of our Constitution is that it accommodates our individual faith definitions of marriage while preventing the government from unlawfully treating us differently.”

His decisions were reversed by a federal appeals court but may be upheld by the Supreme Court, which heard arguments Tuesday in same-sex marriage cases from Kentucky and three other states later.

191 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 30, 2015 2:49:28am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

Huckabee: Supreme Court can’t overrule God

God: Huckabee does not speak in my name.

192 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 3:00:29am

I have an Amazon order that spent all of yesterday traveling in circles in New Jersey, then went to Pennsylvania just before midnight.
It showed up in Baltimore an hour ago…

193 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 3:01:06am

re: #143 Amory Blaine

State high court quickly ousts Shirley Abrahamson as chief justice

So, once again, by dirty tricks, the conservatives take over a court:

“Part of the judge’s written decision when he denied Chief Justice Abrahamson’s request for a temporary restraining order to block the members of the court from voting for a new chief justice reads: ‘When and how to implement a duly passed amendment to the Wisconsin Constitution is a question of state law, not federal law,’ ” Gableman said.

“Soon after the head of the state Government Accountability Board certified the April 7 vote Wednesday, the justices commenced voting by email on whether to make Roggensack chief justice. By the afternoon, a majority had voted for her, according to multiple sources.

Voting for Roggensack were herself, Gableman, and Justices David Prosser and Annette Ziegler. Those four make up the court’s conservative majority.

“The other three — Abrahamson, Bradley and Justice N. Patrick Crooks — had not cast ballots by the time the majority had filed its votes. Abrahamson and Bradley are liberals; Crooks is a swing vote who recently expressed interest in serving as chief justice and criticized Abrahamson for her lawsuit.” More

Voters should be extremely careful what they ask for.

194 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 3:02:44am

:D

195 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 3:16:08am

Some justice among the craziness.

Swat ATC sentences Malala Yousafzai’s attackers to life imprisonment

tribune.com.pk

196 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 3:18:53am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

CNN reported that the claims were made. I see no problem with that. That’s what news orgs are supposed to do. I am skeptical of the reported claims though.

197 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 30, 2015 3:26:35am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is sad news for a longterm KY resident like me. Judge Heyburn is what a judge should be — someone who rules on the basis of the written US legal code, not on the basis of what “tradition” says should be the law.

198 Varek Raith  Apr 30, 2015 3:28:05am

re: #196 Nyet

How goes the investigation into Boris Nemtsov’s murder?

199 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 3:29:38am

re: #198 Varek Raith

It’s a complete mess.

200 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 30, 2015 3:34:39am

re: #186 Varek Raith

A prisoner in the same van said he thinks Gray was trying to hurt himself, a report says.

He broke his own spine? I find that exceedingly hard to believe. WTF, CNN.

While I am no expert, I’ve read that in practice it’s not so easy to break someone’s neck, as often shown in the movies. It would probably be a lot harder to break one’s own neck, or even dislocate your cervical vertebrae without causing injury to some other part of your head or shoulders. Smacking your head against the wall would knock you unconscious before you had a chance to damage your neck.

Either way, the CNN report is total BS.

201 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 3:35:10am

Well, it happened.

Two Congressmen Host ‘One Of The Most Notorious Bigots In The World’

thinkprogress.org

You can find the speech on Teh Google, so I’m not going to link. It’s the same old, same old he’s been preaching for a long time, the usual, which no doubt the attendees loved:

“My friends, we are all in the same boat.
And we must do our duty.
We must speak the truth about Islam, so that our electorates be aware of the danger.
We must protect our Judeo-Christian civilization, so that their children can leave in peace and prosperity.” ad nauseam

202 Decatur Deb  Apr 30, 2015 3:38:15am

re: #39 teleskiguy

If he’s around, Shiplord Kirel, thank you for being you, dude. I always dig your history knowledge and insight on all sorts of things.

I shared a photo you shared here earlier.

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I dropped this historical take on the dead thread.

littlegreenfootballs.com

203 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 3:43:07am

Trying to catch up on last night, which for protestors, was mostly peaceful, at least until I went to bed. Not so much for the police, it seems.

204 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 4:03:12am

WTF, de Blasio?

205 Varek Raith  Apr 30, 2015 4:04:30am

re: #204 Justanotherhuman

WTF, de Blasio?

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Sigh…

206 Timothy Watson  Apr 30, 2015 4:04:34am

re: #99 Lidane

*headdesk*

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Iraq is ranked seventh in the number of civilian-owned guns per capita:
en.wikipedia.org

207 Decatur Deb  Apr 30, 2015 4:15:31am

“Let’s not mince words. Through the proliferation of prisons for profit, the United States is a slaveholder, and private prisons are the cruel overseers who go through extreme means, including documented physical and sexual abuse, lobbying for increased mandatory minimums and fraudulent reporting, to maximize profit.”

dreamdefenders.org

208 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 4:24:45am

The guy who wrote that WAPO piece about Freddie Gray allegedly injuring himeself in the cop van?

Peter Hermann. Use to work as a police reporter for the Balt Sun. No doubt had a close working relationship with the BPD, so it wouldn’t be surprising that the BPD is where this “info” came from.

A Day in the Life

ajrarchive.org

“Here’s how Peter Hermann, a police reporter for Baltimore’s Sun, spent one workday in May:”…

209 Romantic Heretic  Apr 30, 2015 4:25:50am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

It’s not the settlements that are the real problem - it’s the settlers. A lot of these people are religious fanatics who are deliberately trying to provoke conflict with Palestinians. If settlements were populated by people who were actually trying to find solutions and coexist with Palestinians, it would be a very different story - but that isn’t what’s happening.

As I’ve noted before there will never be peace in the Middle East because too many people on all sides of the conflict don’t want peace.

They want victory, which is an entirely different thing.

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210 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 4:36:11am

re: #207 Decatur Deb

“Let’s not mince words. Through the proliferation of prisons for profit, the United States is a slaveholder, and private prisons are the cruel overseers who go through extreme means, including documented physical and sexual abuse, lobbying for increased mandatory minimums and fraudulent reporting, to maximize profit.”em
dreamdefenders.org

Prisons are a function of the State, not profiteers. If you’re brought to trial, found guilty and incarcerated by the State, then it’s up to the State to provide prisons, not their cronies in private businesses.

What if welfare was contracted out to rightwing idiots like those who run these profit making entrprises? As the ACLU states, the American economy should not depend on locking people up in cages, nor should it prey on the poverty of the American people.

“Today, for-profit companies are responsible for approximately 6 percent of state prisoners, 16 percent of federal prisoners, and inmates in local jails in Texas, Louisiana, and a handful of other states. While supporters of private prisons tout the idea that governments can save money through privatization, the evidence is mixed at best—in fact, private prisons may in some instances cost more than governmental ones. These private prisons have also been linked to numerous cases of violence and atrocious conditions.” (my emphasis)

aclu.org

211 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 30, 2015 4:36:30am

Missed another day, but I may be finally Nyquiling this cold away.

Regarding this ridiculous bullshit about Freddie Gray breaking his own spine (in two places): Does anybody but me remember Arlo Guthrie doing a song about Steven Biko—I want to call it Joburg Jail—where a ZARP is telling the story of how they invited Biko down to headquarters for a friendly little chat, and while they were sitting there talking all agreeable and shit, he started beating himself up and ultimately threw himself out of the window?

I can’t find it on any album, or his website arlo.net, and the Google machine knows nothing about it. Maybe he only did it once on TV and I happened to see it? Seems relevant today, though.

212 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 4:41:17am

re: #211 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Missed another day, but I may be finally Nyquiling this cold away.

Regarding this ridiculous bullshit about Freddie Gray breaking his own spine (in two places): Does anybody but me remember Arlo Guthrie doing a song about Steven Biko—I want to call it Joburg Jail—where a ZARP is telling the story of how they invited Biko down to headquarters for a friendly little chat, and while they were sitting there talking all agreeable and shit, he started beating himself up and ultimately threw himself out of the window?

I can’t find it on any album, or his website arlo.net, and the Google machine knows nothing about it. Maybe he only did it once on TV and I happened to see it? Seems relevant today, though.

Maybe you’re thinking of Peter Gabriel?

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213 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 4:43:45am

Fuck this shit, and the Republicans who rode in on it.

North Carolina House passes bill aimed at resuming executions after 9-year break - @Reuters
read more on reuters.com

214 William Lewis  Apr 30, 2015 4:45:20am

re: #211 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Were I a better player of a punk rocker, it would be a good time for a cover of Peter Gabriel’s “Biko” with Gray in place of Biko. A bit beyond my skill set, alas.

215 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 4:48:55am

re: #147 Higgs Boson’s Mate

How do you get on the list of donor heart recipients at age 99?

He is the only one on the list at his own personal private hospital, and his choice of teenage 3rd world donors whom he lures in with promises of show business stardom.

216 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 30, 2015 4:49:13am

re: #212 Justanotherhuman

Maybe you’re thinking of Peter Gabriel?

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Nope, it was definitely Arlo Guthrie—I can see him doing it in my head, but can’t find it anywhere else….

217 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 4:50:09am

re: #145 stpaulbear

Wisconsin is so totally fucked up right now. I can’t believe how quickly that the state has been driven into the ground.

And Scott Walker is Koch Brothers’ Top Pick for POTUS in the GOP lineup.

Wisconsin now coming to America!

218 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 4:51:44am

re: #215 Lord Of The Pies

He is the only one on the list at his own personal private hospital, and his choice of teenage 3rd world donors whom he lures in with promises of show business stardom.

That’s just fucking creepy. {Shudder}

219 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 30, 2015 5:01:22am

re: #215 Lord Of The Pies

He is the only one on the list at his own personal private hospital, and his choice of teenage 3rd world donors whom he lures in with promises of show business stardom.

And if that Italian surgeon succeeds with his head transplant (he won’t), Rockefeller will be on the list for that, too.

Seriously, anybody doubt Dick Cheney will go through at least 6 hearts?

220 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 5:01:39am

I think this “cold” we’ve thought the Munchkin has may be allergies. So it’s off to the dr later. No fever over 99, lots of thin nose mucus, and coughing at night only and just feeling a bit lousy, still has an appetite.

221 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 5:02:35am

Repeating: World News Daily Report is a fake news site.

222 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 5:12:25am

Fresno. Every time I hear that name I automatically connect it to the human plague that is CCJ.

223 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 5:17:40am

Well, this cuts to it.

sandandglass.tumblr.com

“I look at it like this. And I’ll do an analogy for you, right?”

224 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 5:23:08am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

Still purposefully missing the point I see by mixing the reasons for civil marriage and religious marriage.

The moderate Christians need to start pushing back harder publicly and vocally against the extremist nuts. Otherwise the media pretty soon will be portraying all Christians as being ignorant radicals braying for blood.
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225 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 5:32:01am

Good morning Lizards. Partly cloudy and 50F in Philly this morning. Warming up into the high 60s or low 70s. About ideal weather as far as I am concerned.

Neighbor is happy. She is from the Tampa area and the Lightning won a Game 7 against the Detroit Red Wings last night. A good and well played hockey game.

My car remains in limbo. Drivable, but not that drivable, and the parts for the repair have not turned up yet at the dealership. I guess that is more time to save up money to pay the repair bill.

And there is a protest this afternoon near City Hall.

226 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 30, 2015 5:33:07am

GotNwes is back in action.

Hey, #BaltimoreRiots people! Not that you read my blog, but here’s where the mayor lives!

Hahaha! This is just a joke, and it’s a good thing people in Baltimore don’t read the parody blog GotNewsDotCom, because GNDC published her address.

You know, like it would be so, so funny if the riots in Baltimore ended up in suburbia or ended up damaging her home, or injuring Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake or her family.

227 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 5:42:16am

TEH STUPIDS NEVER SLEEPS==>

228 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 5:44:49am

So this showed up last night on my FB==>
facebook.com

229 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 5:48:46am

re: #225 Feline Fearless Leader

What do you know about this “radio personality”? Wingnut? At any rate, he doesn’t seem to have enough respect for teachers to have arranged to take the kids out of school beforehand and get some assignments, at least. This was really all about him, not the kids, and running in the Boston Marathon.

Philadelphia dad responds to school’s letter over kids’ absences

10news.com

Respect works both ways.

230 FemNaziBitch  Apr 30, 2015 5:51:47am

Rubella Has Been Eliminated From the Americas, Health Officials Say


Damn Science!

231 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 5:51:52am

re: #227 Lord Of The Pies

See #208 about Peter Hermann.

232 Dave In Austin  Apr 30, 2015 5:52:40am
233 FemNaziBitch  Apr 30, 2015 5:52:45am
234 FemNaziBitch  Apr 30, 2015 5:54:51am
235 ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2015 6:00:16am

Morning!

I have a question. How did Ben Shapiro injure himself?

Some type of traumatic brain injury presents itself often in his scribbles.

236 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 6:01:59am

Incomes flat.

US consumer spending up 0.4% in March, strongest gain in 4 months; incomes flat - @AP
end of alert

More debt due to “incomes flat”?

237 FemNaziBitch  Apr 30, 2015 6:04:17am
238 FemNaziBitch  Apr 30, 2015 6:06:10am
239 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 6:07:01am

re: #230 FemNaziBitch

Rubella Has Been Eliminated From the Americas, Health Officials Say

Damn Science!

The anti-vaxxers are working hard to reverse that.

240 FemNaziBitch  Apr 30, 2015 6:11:01am

bbl

241 Dr. Matt  Apr 30, 2015 6:12:10am

Trump had Chardonnay for breakfast:

242 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 6:12:47am

re: #241 Dr. Matt

Trump had Chardonnay cocaine for breakfast:

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243 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 6:13:45am

re: #229 Justanotherhuman

What do you know about this “radio personality”? Wingnut? At any rate, he doesn’t seem to have enough respect for teachers to have arranged to take the kids out of school beforehand and get some assignments, at least. This was really all about him, not the kids, and running in the Boston Marathon.

Philadelphia dad responds to school’s letter over kids’ absences

10news.com

Respect works both ways.

No idea who he is. Then again I pretty much ignore the local Philadelphia media for the most part. Only time I have TV on is to watch sporting events and old movies. So I rarely have NBC/ABC/CBS/FOX on, and when I do the commercials for their other shows give me a very good reminder of why I don’t watch those channels.

The school having a policy to send reminders to parents about unexcused absences is a good idea. It’s communication with the parents, and might help detect an issue (like a child playing hooky) before it causes problems.

That the letter could use better phrasing might help. And Rossi probably should have taken a breather before posting his remarks since he essentially was pretty insulting to the school and teachers if you want to view it that way.

That jackasses then went and made threats doesn’t surprise. There are always people looking to be insulted or for an excuse to act out. Cities, obviously, have them in higher concentrations.

244 Bubblehead II  Apr 30, 2015 6:15:32am

re: #239 Justanotherhuman

The anti-vaxxers are working hard to reverse that.

Just like they did with measles and the mumps.

Second person diagsnosed with measles in Spokane

SPOKANE COUNTY, Wash. - Workers with the Regional Health District confirmed Wednesday there has been a second adult diagnosed with measles in Spokane.

And from February 6 2015

Mumps outbreak spreads in Boise

Idaho currently has 21 confirmed cases of mumps as of Friday. Six of those are in the Boise area. A pair of cases in Washington have also been linked to the U of I outbreak.

245 BigPapa  Apr 30, 2015 6:21:10am
246 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 6:21:13am

DIM JIM STUPID FAKE OUTRAGE DU JOUR==>

247 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 6:22:30am

re: #227 Lord Of The Pies

TEH STUPIDS NEVER SLEEPS==>

Ben’s one of those gullible sorts, isn’t he?

248 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 6:23:43am

re: #247 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Ben’s one of those gullible sorts, isn’t he?

He’s one of those “Confirmation Bias” sorts.

249 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 6:24:34am

re: #213 Justanotherhuman

Fuck this shit, and the Republicans who rode in on it.

North Carolina House passes bill aimed at resuming executions after 9-year break - @Reuters
read more on reuters.com

More ‘less government’ policies I see.

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250 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 6:24:55am

re: #52 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, Ted Cruz wants to blame Obama for increasing racial tensions. Memo to Cruz; the BPD raised those tensions by killing yet another unarmed black man. That follows other police departments nationally that kill black people with seeming impunity (and the few instances of indictments don’t count - not when convictions aren’t secured because officers claim that they’ve got justified use of force for reasons that defy logic or reasoning - as in a person running away is a threat to the officer). But for law enforcement targeting minorities and engaging in racial profiling and engaging in excessive force and deadly force, racial tensions would not be an issue (or inflamed).

251 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 6:26:56am

re: #245 BigPapa

Suddenly, assault is considered an acceptable means of parenting?

Seriously, that woman is assaulting a person that later turns out to be her son. The reason may have been honorable - to stop him from doing something that might lead him to be arrested and the BPD could end up turning him into another Freddie Gray, but it’s still assault. And proper parenting would mean never letting the situation get to that point in the first place - the kid would know better than to even consider rioting or attacking cops who need little excuse to use deadly force.

252 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 6:27:26am

re: #211 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Missed another day, but I may be finally Nyquiling this cold away.

Regarding this ridiculous bullshit about Freddie Gray breaking his own spine (in two places): Does anybody but me remember Arlo Guthrie doing a song about Steven Biko—I want to call it Joburg Jail—where a ZARP is telling the story of how they invited Biko down to headquarters for a friendly little chat, and while they were sitting there talking all agreeable and shit, he started beating himself up and ultimately threw himself out of the window?

I can’t find it on any album, or his website arlo.net, and the Google machine knows nothing about it. Maybe he only did it once on TV and I happened to see it? Seems relevant today, though.

Like when blacks in the south would hang themselves, light themselves on fire and force all those good Christian white patriots to stand around and gawk, take pictures, not get convicted of any crimes.

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253 Dr. Matt  Apr 30, 2015 6:28:12am

Cuteness break

254 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 6:28:15am

re: #243 Feline Fearless Leader

Well, it could be just a matter of feeling entitled, but at the same time, he loves the police and calls himself a “patriot”. No doubt CBS frowns on their “personalities” admitting to political affiliations.

He also seems to love attention—this could have been handled much differently and has the stink of someone who is used to a lot of attention and using his kids to promote himself is pretty low.

255 BigPapa  Apr 30, 2015 6:30:20am

re: #251 lawhawk

Exactly. And note; she was erupting in rage at him because she’s afraid of her son getting arrested, beaten, or worse.

256 ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2015 6:30:35am

re: #253 Dr. Matt

Cuteness break

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I wanna rub that little pink belly on the zonked out pup.

257 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 30, 2015 6:31:30am

Didn’t the BPD shackle Freddie when he was in the van? How could he be throwing himself around if his legs were tied up?

258 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 30, 2015 6:33:46am

re: #252 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Like when blacks in the south would hang themselves, light themselves on fire and force all those good Christian white patriots to stand around and gawk, take pictures, not get convicted of any crimes.

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On a much less serious—but funnier—note: One of the local weekly fishwraps many years ago, in their police report roundup column, said a (then new) 1982 Corvette was found in the Honda Hills (an abandoned subdivision site kids liked to ride dirt bikes in) with its wheels removed, up on blocks, and on fire.

Their final line? “Police suspect arson.”

259 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 6:33:54am

re: #257 GlutenFreeJesus

Didn’t the BPD shackle Freddie when he was in the van? How could he be throwing himself around if his legs were tied up?

Don’t they connect those shackles to the holding area anyway?

260 ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2015 6:34:04am

re: #251 lawhawk

Suddenly, assault is considered an acceptable means of parenting?

Seriously, that woman is assaulting a person that later turns out to be her son. The reason may have been honorable - to stop him from doing something that might lead him to be arrested and the BPD could end up turning him into another Freddie Gray, but it’s still assault. And proper parenting would mean never letting the situation get to that point in the first place - the kid would know better than to even consider rioting or attacking cops who need little excuse to use deadly force.

Not to excuse her behavior, but I am thinking her response and type of discipline is inherited and learned.

The talk around it sort of reminds me of the Minnesota Vikings Adrian Peterson and his handling of his son’s discipline.

Problem as always, how do you break the cycle?

261 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 6:35:13am

re: #254 Justanotherhuman

Well, it could be just a matter of feeling entitled, but at the same time, he loves the police and calls himself a “patriot”. No doubt CBS frowns on their “personalities” admitting to political affiliations.

He also seems to love attention—this could have been handled much differently and has the stink of someone who is used to a lot of attention and using his kids to promote himself is pretty low.

The school district is known in wingnut circles due to a 1963 Supreme Court case.

Wikipedia Link

262 Dr. Matt  Apr 30, 2015 6:37:10am
263 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 6:37:37am

re: #260 ObserverArt

Not to excuse here behavior, but I am thinking her response and type of discipline is inherited and learned.

The talk around it sort of reminds me of the Minnesota Vikings Adrian Peterson and his handling of his sons discipline.

Problem as always, how do you break the cycle?

Another problem is: Child welfare probably ignores the “spare the rod and spoil the child” philosophy when it comes to Black parenting. As long as they don’t kill their kids.

264 BigPapa  Apr 30, 2015 6:39:15am

re: #262 Dr. Matt

SoylentMeme.

265 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 6:39:29am

re: #263 Justanotherhuman

Another problem is: Child welfare probably ignores the “spare the rod and spoil the child” philosophy when it comes to Black parenting. As long as they don’t kill their kids.

CPS removes children from Black homes at twice the rate they remove children from white homes

266 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 6:39:36am

re: #257 GlutenFreeJesus

Didn’t the BPD shackle Freddie when he was in the van? How could he be throwing himself around if his legs were tied up?

It’s like the powers-that-be believe no one actually watched the arrest video.
Freddie Gray’s legs were totally floppy when they pulled him up from the pavement and dragged him to the van.
And I mean floppy…not just limp.
At the van, his body was like a puddle of flesh while they try to figure out how to shove him inside.

267 HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2015 6:42:30am

I mean I understand the frustration that mother must have felt seeing her son there. But the response I see from white upper middle class people just reeks of patronizing to me. I’m sure there were plenty of mothers that got their sons out of this by not resorting to that. And I really don’t like how white people talk down to black parents either.

268 wrenchwench  Apr 30, 2015 6:44:33am
269 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 6:45:42am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

I mean I understand the frustration that mother must have felt seeing her son there. But the response I see from white upper middle class people just reeks of patronizing to me. I’m sure there were plenty of mothers that got their sons out of this by not resorting to that. And I really don’t like how white people talk down to black parents either.

This. And I think that footage played to a lot of people’s biases and stereotypes.

And I see no one talking about why the child was walking away or trying to avoid her. He was outside among his peer group - and thus likely acting under of the influence of that brain-draining effect.

270 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 6:46:32am

Why would anyone trust an unidentified/anonymous witness who didn’t actually view any of the events, but claims to have heard what went on in the police van for all of 5 minutes of the approximately 30 minutes that Grey was in police custody in that van?

That’s witness testimony that while admissible as to what the witness heard, but claiming that the sounds heard were consistent with Gray engaging in self-harm is opinion and would not be admissible. The witness has no way of knowing exactly what was going on, who was in the van with Gray, and therefore his conclusion (that Gray was engaging in self-harm) is faulty.

271 HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2015 6:47:41am

re: #270 lawhawk

Why would anyone trust an unidentified/anonymous witness who didn’t actually view any of the events, but claims to have heard what went on in the police van for all of 5 minutes of the approximately 30 minutes that Grey was in police custody in that van?

That’s witness testimony that while admissible as to what the witness heard, but claiming that the sounds heard were consistent with Gray engaging in self-harm is opinion and would not be admissible. The witness has no way of knowing exactly what was going on, who was in the van with Gray, and therefore his conclusion (that Gray was engaging in self-harm) is faulty.

They’re looking for any way they can to not get an indictment. It’s a sham.

272 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 6:47:53am

re: #270 lawhawk

Why would anyone trust an unidentified/anonymous witness who didn’t actually view any of the events, but claims to have heard what went on in the police van for all of 5 minutes of the approximately 30 minutes that Grey was in police custody in that van?

That’s witness testimony that while admissible as to what the witness heard, but claiming that the sounds heard were consistent with Gray engaging in self-harm is opinion and would not be admissible. The witness has no way of knowing exactly what was going on, who was in the van with Gray, and therefore his conclusion (that Gray was engaging in self-harm) is faulty.

An earlier comment mentioned that this leak is muddying the waters about Gray’s condition and when/how he was injured. That, simply enough, could be the goal.

273 Decatur Deb  Apr 30, 2015 6:49:53am

re: #272 Feline Fearless Leader

An earlier comment mentioned that this leak is muddying the waters about Gray’s condition and when/how he was injured. That, simply enough, could be the goal.

Since at least the Trayvon Martin killing, a playbook has been developed.

274 ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2015 6:51:54am

Unreasonable doubt.

Seems to be a new legal parameter used by the police to excuse their behavior.

/

275 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 6:52:29am

re: #270 lawhawk

And yes, I get that these leaks from the BPD are all designed to raise doubts as to Gray’s condition and try to avoid liability for the BPD officers involved.

The problem, though, is that the BPD arrests people as they are - if they had a preexisting spinal condition or not. If he did (which it doesn’t appear to be the case), their actions led to the spinal injuries that caused his death.

If he attempted self harm, the BPD too is at fault for not properly securing Gray in the van to avoid potential self harms.

Either way, the BPD is at fault, but the BPD is hellbent on trying to justify the death by any means necessary, and they’ve got a willing mediaverse that would excuse yet another death at the hands of the agency.

276 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 6:52:36am

re: #270 lawhawk

As a retired EMT and based on what I saw in the arrest video, I’m of the opinion that he had a severe spinal injury before he was put into the van and was incapable of any kind of self-harm movement.

The effects of the 30 minute rough ride, on the other hand…

277 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 6:53:53am

Egads. I’m reading the Wikipedia page on the Abington School District.

Ranked 52nd out of the almost 500 PA school districts. Consistent 93-95% graduation rate. Sounds like one of the better one in the state.

Then you seen a 2009 study saying that 44% of the graduates from the school would need a remediation course in mathematics or reading before taking higher education courses. And their PSSA (standardized test) scores are 8-10% below basic for their 11th graders.

If this is one of the better public school districts in the state I don’t think I want to look at the numbers for other districts.

en.wikipedia.org

278 BigPapa  Apr 30, 2015 6:53:54am

Freddie Gray lowered his head and charged, like a bull, at the side of the van.

279 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 6:54:37am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

I would tend to concur - that his legs were flopping around, unable to stand, and appeared to be dead weight would suggest the injury occurred prior to being put in the van. How he was arrested and the force used to effectuate the arrest are questions that need to be resolved.

And that would all come from the autopsy and investigative reports that have yet to be made public.

280 Decatur Deb  Apr 30, 2015 6:54:55am

re: #278 BigPapa

Freddie Gray lowered his head and charged, like a bull, at the side of the van.

Does the headlight have an orbital blowout fracture?

281 Bubblehead II  Apr 30, 2015 6:55:27am

re: #268 wrenchwench

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The Boise Falcons eggs should start hatching with in a week or two.

282 HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2015 6:55:40am

Why are these rough rides, nickle rides, or whatever you want to call them even legal in the first place? I get it. Cops have a tough job but the whole rough ride to me seems like something out of a totalitarian regime.

283 HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2015 6:56:14am

re: #280 Decatur Deb

Does the headlight have an orbital blowout fracture?

Yes from the University of Iowa.

284 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 6:56:58am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Yes from the University of Iowa.

Damn Hawkeyes, always breaking things.
//

285 darthstar  Apr 30, 2015 7:04:21am

re: #284 Feline Fearless Leader

Damn Hawkeyes, always breaking things.
//

???

286 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 30, 2015 7:05:36am

re: #259 Justanotherhuman

You would think they’d use a seatbelt too…

287 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 7:08:23am

re: #285 darthstar

I will find you!

Hawkeye, the original man with a very particular set of skills. /

288 ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2015 7:09:38am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

As a retired EMT and based on what I saw in the arrest video, I’m of the opinion that he had a severe spinal injury before he was put into the van and was incapable of any kind of self-harm movement.

The effects of the 30 minute rough ride, on the other hand…

I had ESPN on over the weekend and they were doing some background on fighter Manny Pacquiao. They were telling the story of how in one of his first fights he had to go into the ring after a fellow fighter and friend had just been beaten into unconsciousness and Manny and the trainers/handlers had to carry the fighter to the locker room. Pacquiao said he felt the guy die in his arms as they carried him.

The video of the badly beaten boxer reminded me right off of the Freddie Gray video. He was out and as his handlers and others tried to pick him up off the floor of the boxing ring he had zero control. As I watched transfixed by the brutality ( I am not a boxing fan…at all) I kept thinking damn, that looks just like how Freddie Gray looked as the police manhandled him into the van like a 150 pound bag of potatoes.

I think you are right. He was badly hurt before he was even in the van. There are witnesses that said they thought he was unconscious when they picked him up.

This is all so sad, infuriating and disgusting. And seen too often. But thanks for smart phones we are getting to see what has obviously been going on for far too long. It’s no wonder cop shops don’t want people to be allowed to see them working (over) the public.

And with that…time to get to work…back later.

289 Decatur Deb  Apr 30, 2015 7:09:59am

Off to do more bike/Civ4. I am sorely disappointed in Queen Hatshepsut.

290 darthstar  Apr 30, 2015 7:10:23am

re: #287 lawhawk

I will find you!

Hawkeye, the original man with a very particular set of skills. /

My Dances With Wolves name is “Wind in his butt”

291 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 30, 2015 7:10:50am

And how many episodes of COPS have we all seen where the person detained in a squad car keeps pounding their head against e door/window. Repeatedly. Before the cops further restrain them? And they definitely didn’t sever their spines.

292 No Country For Old Haters  Apr 30, 2015 7:13:03am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Hash oil is pretty much like free-basing cannabis. it should definitely remain illegal.

Hash oil is fantastic. To claim it has anything to do with freebasing is absolutely absurd. It’s safer than smoking pot, and much, much safer than alcohol.

293 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 30, 2015 7:13:58am
Lawyer says fatally injured Baltimore arrestee lacked seat belt

BALTIMORE (AP) — No video captured what happened to Freddie Gray inside the police van where officers heaved him into a metal compartment after pinning him to a sidewalk. The cause of his fatal spine injury has not been revealed.

But a troubling detail emerged as hundreds of protesters converged on City Hall again Thursday: He was not only handcuffed and put in leg irons, but left without a seat belt during his trip to the station.

Unbelted detainees have been paralyzed and even killed by rough rides in what used to be called ”paddy wagons.” It even has a name: ”nickel rides,” referring to cheap amusement park thrills.

Police brutality against prisoners being transported was addressed just six months ago in a plan released by Baltimore officials to reduce this misconduct. Department rules updated nine days before Gray’s arrest clearly state that all detainees shall be strapped in by seat belts or ”other authorized restraining devices” for their own safety after arrest.

Gray was not belted in, said attorney Michael Davey, who represents at least one of the officers under investigation.

LINK

294 HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2015 7:19:16am

re: #293 Higgs Boson’s Mate

LINK

If he wasn’t belted then they fucked up. This at the least needs to be brought to trial.

295 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 7:21:51am
296 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 7:23:06am

re: #234 FemNaziBitch

Police injuries were later attributed to “friendly fire” from each other’s weapons.[2][3][6]

facepalm

297 Lidane  Apr 30, 2015 7:24:15am

re: #284 Feline Fearless Leader

Damn Hawkeyes, always breaking things.
//

But they get free guacamole at Chipotle!

…

298 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 30, 2015 7:34:44am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

It also seems that Baltimore officials were well aware of BPDs “nickel rides.” That the BPD inflicts corporal punishment on detainees breaks any number of laws. That practice also implies a police culture that needs to be changed.

299 HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2015 7:36:51am

re: #298 Higgs Boson’s Mate

It also seems that Baltimore officials were well aware of BPDs “nickel rides.” That the BPD inflicts corporal punishment on detainees breaks any number of laws. That practice also implies a police culture that needs to be changed.

Agreed 100%. Really the police unions complain about how people negatively view the police? Well then don’t do shit like that then.

300 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 7:37:59am
301 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 7:42:24am
302 Targetpractice  Apr 30, 2015 7:42:58am

So, I see that after days of assurances that the BPD would keep folks in the loop and release the results of their investigation, they’ve now totally clammed up and shunted the whole thing to the DA’s office.

How many times have we seen this, when promises of a “thorough investigation” and the responsible parties “held responsible” went to the DA’s office to die, usually behind the closed doors of a grand jury that got fed just what was necessary to attain a “no bill”?

303 BigPapa  Apr 30, 2015 7:43:33am

Black teenager gets shot at by cop, turns around, runs at cop.

Young black man gets shackled and tied up, left in back of police van, smashes his spine.

These facts are AMAZE.

304 Lidane  Apr 30, 2015 7:43:44am

Seems legit:

305 HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2015 7:44:43am

re: #300 lawhawk

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Joan said it better than I could so thanks for that. And she’s right. A lot of people were horrified when they saw the photos of Adrian Peterson’s son. I mean I empathize with her frustration but I’m really tired of the mindset and Walsh got at it from white Americans who are just using her to shame other African American parents.

306 HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2015 7:45:31am

re: #304 Lidane

Seems legit:

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England still had some fine pubs whenever I was over there in the summer so it apparently does not.

307 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 7:46:03am

re: #275 lawhawk

And yes, I get that these leaks from the BPD are all designed to raise doubts as to Gray’s condition and try to avoid liability for the BPD officers involved.

The problem, though, is that the BPD arrests people as they are - if they had a preexisting spinal condition or not. If he did (which it doesn’t appear to be the case), their actions led to the spinal injuries that caused his death.

If he attempted self harm, the BPD too is at fault for not properly securing Gray in the van to avoid potential self harms.

Either way, the BPD is at fault, but the BPD is hellbent on trying to justify the death by any means necessary, and they’ve got a willing mediaverse that would excuse yet another death at the hands of the agency.

It’s just all so predictable and transparently laughable.

Then again, our media seems to fall for it every time.

308 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 7:46:20am

re: #303 BigPapa

Black teenager gets shot at by cop, turns around, runs at cop.

Young black man gets shackled and tied up, left in back of police van, smashes his spine.

These facts are AMAZE.

IT TEH WARRIOR GENE!!!!!!!!!

309 darthstar  Apr 30, 2015 7:46:36am
310 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 7:47:45am

MOST RACIST MEME OF THE DAY, MORNING EDITION==>

311 HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2015 7:47:52am

re: #309 darthstar

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Amateur hour with those two.

312 BigPapa  Apr 30, 2015 7:48:07am

re: #304 Lidane

Will gay marriage destroy pizza and beer? That would totally suck.

Then I don’t support the gay agenda.

313 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 7:48:10am

FREE EDUCATIONS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY!!!!!!!

314 HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2015 7:49:36am

Scratch a conservative, find an authoritarian asshole.

315 HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2015 7:49:51am

re: #312 BigPapa

Will gay marriage destroy pizza and beer? That would totally suck.

Then I don’t support the gay agenda.

Don’t forget french fries.

316 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 7:54:47am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Yes from the University of Iowa.

We have proof, here is file photo. Everybody’s seen the photo.

317 BigPapa  Apr 30, 2015 7:55:06am

First the homonazis came for our wedding cakes, and nobody said anything.

Then they came for our pizzas, and nobody said anything.

Then they came for our freedom fries, and nobody said anything because they already had curly fries.

318 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 7:55:46am

re: #310 Lord Of The Pies

MOST RACIST MEME OF THE DAY, MORNING EDITION==>

I hope this TCOT is on time for the next Operation American Spring meeting.
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319 makeitstop  Apr 30, 2015 7:57:53am

re: #315 HappyWarrior

Don’t forget french freedom fries.

320 darthstar  Apr 30, 2015 7:59:58am
321 HappyWarrior  Apr 30, 2015 8:00:39am

re: #320 darthstar

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The party of heartless dicks strikes again.

322 BigPapa  Apr 30, 2015 8:01:38am
White America suddenly hearts black parenting
323 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 8:04:46am

OK, I figured it out. Here’s what happened.

Freddie Gray ran from the cops. While running from the cops he ran into a light pole and broke his spine. When he fell his larynx got shattered on his foot.

Then he compounded those injuries by banging himself against the wall in the van.

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324 Dave In Austin  Apr 30, 2015 8:06:39am

re: #304 Lidane

325 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 8:06:39am

re: #310 Lord Of The Pies

MOST RACIST MEME OF THE DAY, MORNING EDITION==>

The really sad thing is how these events in Baltimore have distracted from the true oppression facing white men with guns all over the country, like in Texas with Jame Hema 15.

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326 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 8:14:22am

This is my shocked face:

The other prisoner was wrong. Gray asked for medical assistance even before the 2d prisoner was loaded into the police van.

Before the second prisoner was even in the police van, Freddie Gray asked the police for medical assistance.

So you have to wonder why on earth a man who had just asked for help would then try to hurt himself—as the second prisoner supposedly concluded after he was picked up at the next stop a few minutes later.

The opinion of the second prisoner is reportedly contained in a search warrant application prepared by a police investigator and now leaked to the Washington Post.

Somebody leaked the sealed document for a reason just as the police were preparing to turn over the results of their investigation to the Baltimore state’s attorney. There is nothing to stop the police department from also publically disclosing it major findings, as it largely did after its initial investigation soon after Gray’s death.

But what the police have already disclosed is enough to suggest why the second prisoner might have believed Gray was trying to hurt himself—and why he was almost certainly mistaken

After the stop where he asked for medical assistance and medical assistance was denied to him, Gray seems to have resumed signaling his need for help by the only means available; by banging on the inside of the van.

327 Lidane  Apr 30, 2015 8:16:57am

re: #324 Dave In Austin

THAT’S WHY GREG ABBOTT IS SENDING TROOPS TO KEEP TEH INVADING US ARMY IN LINE.

WE MUST PROTECT OURSELVES FROM THE WALMART FEMA DEATH CAMPS OF DOOOOOM.

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328 BigPapa  Apr 30, 2015 8:18:48am

#allstoresmatter

329 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 8:19:29am

re: #326 lawhawk

Yes but we’ve all seen the file photo of Freddie’s pre-arrest surgery on his spine and larynx and other prisoner’s absolute proof of Gray trying to kill himself to blame the cops.

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330 Dave In Austin  Apr 30, 2015 8:20:26am

re: #328 BigPapa

#allfemacampsmatter

331 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 8:20:26am

re: #310 Lord Of The Pies

MOST RACIST MEME OF THE DAY, MORNING EDITION==>

Remember the Tea Party, bring their guns the next time, the Tree of Liberty needs to be sprinkled with blood from time to time, etc.

332 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 30, 2015 8:23:36am

Do we even really know if there was a second prisoner in the van…

333 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 30, 2015 8:23:52am

re: #317 BigPapa

Mmmm, curly fries.

With Old Bay.

334 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 30, 2015 8:25:16am

re: #304 Lidane

Conservative activist E.W. Jackson said at an anti-gay press conference at the National Press Club earlier today that conservative Christians are prepared to die in the fight over gay marriage, just like the Christian students in Kenya who were recently murdered by radical Islamic terrorists.

Like this?

No? Didn’t think so. Carry on, and on and on.

335 Eventual Carrion  Apr 30, 2015 8:27:42am

re: #304 Lidane

Seems legit:

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Back to our natural state of formless and void

336 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 8:28:02am

Issues big and small. Police account of how a dog was shot and killed questioned by owner. The police claim that they were responding to a burglary report, but they went to wrong home. This happened a few towns over from where I live.

337 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 30, 2015 8:29:19am

re: #336 lawhawk

Why u hate ‘Merica?!?!

338 Lidane  Apr 30, 2015 8:29:28am
339 Targetpractice  Apr 30, 2015 8:30:21am

re: #338 Lidane

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I thought the wingnuts viewed the Confederates as “patriots”?

340 Lidane  Apr 30, 2015 8:31:28am

re: #339 Targetpractice

I thought the wingnuts viewed the Confederates as “patriots”?

They view WHITE Confederates as “patriots” defending their rights.

341 Kryptik  Apr 30, 2015 8:31:56am

re: #338 Lidane

For fuck’s sake, really.

Just…really. I don’t know what to say about this one. It’s just so…the projection is painful.

342 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 8:32:46am

re: #339 Targetpractice

I thought the wingnuts viewed the Confederates as “patriots”?

Dependng whether it’s convenient for them, Confederates serve a dual purpose as PATRIOTS!!!!! and DEMOCRATS!!!!!11!!!

343 blueraven  Apr 30, 2015 8:32:49am

re: #322 BigPapa

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I don’t necessarily condone nor do I want to romanticize what this mother did. However, fear of your child being killed by police can cause a very strong visceral reaction. It gets to survival mode/protection of your child, even if not entirely logical.

Also, there is a vast difference in the two cases you cite
Adrian Peterson allegedly beat his 4-year-old son with a stick, hitting him in his scrotum and breaking the skin. That child was defenseless.

I don’t think we should lionize her but I wont judge this woman too harshly either.

344 Eventual Carrion  Apr 30, 2015 8:35:15am

re: #338 Lidane

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That could lose him the bigot vote that he never would have gotten in the first place.

345 iossarian  Apr 30, 2015 8:36:16am

re: #343 blueraven

I don’t think we should lionize her but I wont judge this woman too harshly either.

It’s voyeurism, pure and simple. People can’t look away from the fact that a mother is reduced to slapping her son, for fear that he will get himself killed by the police for protesting against endemic racism.

Black people are like a zoo exhibit for well-heeled liberals and mouth-breathing conservatives alike.

America is beyond fucked up.

346 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 8:37:34am
347 Great White Snark  Apr 30, 2015 8:37:54am

Great example of the meme genre fail. Big hits on little kid=open handed slap upon 16 year old? Hopelessly distant comparison. Earth/Pluto distant.

348 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 8:42:36am

re: #338 Lidane

Also, too, the National Organization Against Gay Marriage (NOM) is just like the Civil Rights heroes and MLK.

/

349 iossarian  Apr 30, 2015 8:42:54am

Forgive me if I fail to get worked up over the ins and outs of “black parenting” while we’re still figuring out the details of “white nickel-riding”.

350 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 8:43:44am

re: #338 Lidane

AFA wacko hater Bryan Fischer is just like Rosa Parks.

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351 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 8:44:39am

re: #350 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

AFA wacko hater Bryan Fischer is just like Rosa Parks.

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SWEET CAKES MELISSA IS JUST LIKE TEH HOLOCAUST VICTIMS!!!!!1!!!

352 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 8:44:52am
353 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 8:45:01am

re: #342 Lord Of The Pies

Dependng whether it’s convenient for them, Confederates serve a dual purpose as PATRIOTS!!!!! and DEMOCRATS!!!!!11!!!

Confederates were Freedom lovers all about less government and states rights and heritage and the Baltimore rioters are just like Confederates who wanted dictatorship and free stuff.

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354 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 30, 2015 8:45:48am

re: #338 Lidane

Alan Keyes: Baltimore protesters are like Confederates from the Civil War, pushing dictatorship

Ignorance of history leads to epic historical parallel fail.

355 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 8:47:19am

re: #334 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Like this?

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No? Didn’t think so. Carry on, and on and on.

Conservative Christians prepared to die over gay marriage but Hey, what do you mean Christian cake bakers have to serve the gays? OUTRAGE PERSECUTION!!!!

356 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 8:48:30am

re: #338 Lidane

It’s just like how Freddie Gray broke his own spine and smashed his own larynx inside the police van because he hated white people.

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357 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 8:48:44am

re: #354 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Ignorance of history leads to epic historical parallel fail.

I think he may be referring to this, but not using correct context.

en.wikipedia.org

358 Lidane  Apr 30, 2015 8:49:50am

Pandering Republican Fuckwits, Thursday morning edition:

359 danarchy  Apr 30, 2015 8:54:27am

re: #347 Great White Snark

Great example of the meme genre fail. Baseball bat on little kid=open handed slap upon 16 year old? Hopelessly distant comparison. Earth/Pluto distant.

Ok Adrian Peterson was a douche for hitting his kid with a switch, but baseball bat? come on now, Adrian is a big guy if he had hit his kid with a baseball bat we would be talking about murder not abuse.

360 iossarian  Apr 30, 2015 8:55:32am

re: #358 Lidane

It’s just astonishing how fearful conservatives are of the military they claim to love.

361 Eventual Carrion  Apr 30, 2015 8:56:01am

re: #358 Lidane

Pandering Republican Fuckwits, Thursday morning edition:

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We must protect ourselves, contact Fort Bliss, no wait …

362 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 9:00:55am

re: #326 lawhawk

363 goddamnedfrank  Apr 30, 2015 9:01:13am

Not sure why Chuck is trying to pretend now that he didn’t launch GotNews in partnership with Joel S Gilbert. Especially since he’s adopted Gilbert’s Frank Marshall Davis theory in total. In addition to telling Orly Taitz that he was launching GotNews with Gilbert, and originally listing Gilbert as the co-author on the Cochran / Stevie Fielder bullshit article, The Blaze clearly identified both Johnson and Gilbert as “the folks behind GotNews.com.”

364 #FergusonFireside  Apr 30, 2015 9:01:45am

re: #362 lawhawk

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They are lying lying lying.

Don’t believe a fucking word that the police have said. Not.one.word.

365 Great White Snark  Apr 30, 2015 9:01:48am

re: #359 danarchy

Ok Adrian Peterson was a douche for hitting his kid with a switch, but baseball bat? come on now, Adrian is a big guy if he had hit his kid with a baseball bat we would be talking about murder not abuse.

I had fixed that sorry. Had just seen a story about a kid attacking someone with a bat. Just typed the wrong thing and fixed it when I realized the mistake. I better just lurk, my head is just not in the game.

366 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 9:02:11am

re: #362 lawhawk

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That must be where they took on the load of rabid starving honey badgers.

367 Targetpractice  Apr 30, 2015 9:04:18am

re: #360 iossarian

It’s just astonishing how fearful conservatives are of the military they claim to love.

Yeah, the Jade Helm freakout has been rather amusing in light of how many times a wingnut has assured me that if the US ever dissolves into Civil War, the military will totally abandon the federal government and take the side of the “patriots.” Why? Because, they assure me, soldiers would never obey orders to turn their guns on American citizens.

368 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 9:06:37am

re: #367 Targetpractice

Yeah, the Jade Helm freakout has been rather amusing in light of how many times a wingnut has assured me that if the US ever dissolves into Civil War, the military will totally abandon the federal government and take the side of the “patriots.” Why? Because, they assure me, soldiers would never obey orders to turn their guns on American citizens.

Yeah it’s all very confusing. Like the Confederates were Patriots, but No they were Democrat Party.

369 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 9:09:55am

re: #363 goddamnedfrank

Who is Gilbert?

370 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 9:10:35am

Rick Snyder wants to destroy what’s left of Detroit schools==>

371 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 30, 2015 9:11:51am

re: #368 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Yeah it’s all very confusing. Like the Confederates were Patriots, but No they were Democrat Party.

These people are so damn ignorant. I freely admit that if this were 1856 or 1860 or 1864 or 1868 or 1872—maybe even 1876, I’m not sure—I’d be voting Republican. Why can’t they admit that times change in a century and a half?

372 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 9:11:58am

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY, LUNCHTIME EDITION (MIDMORNING EDITION FOR THOSE OF YOU ON PACIFIC TIME)==>

373 ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2015 9:12:31am

re: #360 iossarian

It’s just astonishing how fearful conservatives are of the military they claim to love.

Ah but, this is a military in the hands of a Blah man.

It is similar as to how they loves them some guns, but they do not loves them some guns in the hands of Blah people.

/

374 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 9:12:51am
375 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 9:13:12am

re: #372 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY, LUNCHTIME EDITION (MIDMORNING EDITION FOR THOSE OF YOU ON PACIFIC TIME)==>

Oh so Dagwood just wants free stuff.

/

376 Targetpractice  Apr 30, 2015 9:14:39am

re: #362 lawhawk

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TPM’s report offers a bit more:

Deputy Police Commissioner Kevin Davis said police found out about the new stop from video footage captured on a privately owned surveillance camera. According to the timeline Davis laid out, the new stop is the second of four stops the van made on April 12.

So the BPD is just finding out, over two weeks after the arrest, that there was a stop not recorded in any of the official logs or paperwork. And only found out about it because of a private video camera that happened to catch it.

in other words, without the presence of that camera, we would never have known about this unreported stop.

377 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 30, 2015 9:15:11am

re: #372 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY, LUNCHTIME EDITION (MIDMORNING EDITION FOR THOSE OF YOU ON PACIFIC TIME)==>

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9am isn’t even midmorning. It’s too early for that.

/I refuse to acknowledge the existence of time before 8am.

378 Ace-o-aces  Apr 30, 2015 9:15:18am

re: #352 lawhawk

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Fun fact. Liberia is set to have Universal healthcare coverage by 2016. They didn’t even have a government 4 years ago. Meanwhile, the U.S. was barely able to pass a watered down insurance reform bill that still leaves millions uncovered.

379 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 30, 2015 9:15:32am

re: #370 Lord Of The Pies

Rick Snyder wants to destroy what’s left of Detroit schools==>

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Lemme guess—split them into all-white outlying schools that can be handed over to profit-making corporations and inner-city schools that can be starved of funds and left to rot?

380 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 9:17:39am

re: #376 Targetpractice

Guess the driver of the van and the other cops in the van forgot about that one.

/

381 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 9:18:09am

re: #377 klys (maker of Silmarils)

9am isn’t even midmorning. It’s too early for that.

/I refuse to acknowledge the existence of time before 8am.

9am is midmorning when you’ve been at work since 7.

382 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 9:18:37am

This week’s pie will be…

Cherry!

383 danarchy  Apr 30, 2015 9:18:45am

re: #377 klys (maker of Silmarils)

9am isn’t even midmorning. It’s too early for that.

/I refuse to acknowledge the existence of time before 8am.

Time Zones are a bitch. Your 9am is my early afternoon.

384 Ace-o-aces  Apr 30, 2015 9:19:03am

Hey, remember when Ben was all supportive of Cliven Bundy threatening to kill federal law enforcement over fucking grazing fees? Wonder how he would feel if the feds threw Bundy in a van and beat him to death?

385 goddamnedfrank  Apr 30, 2015 9:19:05am

re: #369 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Who is Gilbert?

Gilbert is a weirdo who made a living running a Bob Dylan cover band and more recently started making wingnut documentaries. He’s the one who produced and directed the Dreams from my Real Father “documentary” that posited FMD was Obama’s real dad and that a conspiracy had arisen to keep this a secret because Davis was married at the time. His theory is that Anne Dunham was Davis’s underage porn star and Obama Sr. was brought in and paid to pretend to have fathered Barak. Gilbert is amazingly sleezy and disgusting.

386 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 30, 2015 9:19:44am

re: #381 Lord Of The Pies

9am is midmorning when you’ve been at work since 7.

NOPE. DO NOT WANT.

I’m only up this early anyway because I am still on East Coast time vaguely and am trying to hold onto that until after his knee surgery tomorrow.

387 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 30, 2015 9:20:50am

re: #377 klys (maker of Silmarils)

9am isn’t even midmorning. It’s too early for that.

/I refuse to acknowledge the existence of time before 8am.

Until I go to sleep and wake up again it’ll still be Wednesday—Notify WWV.

388 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 30, 2015 9:21:35am

re: #384 Ace-o-aces

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Hey, remember when Ben was all supportive of Cliven Bundy threatening to kill federal law enforcement over fucking grazing fees? Wonder how he would feel if the feds threw Bundy in a van and beat him to death?

I’m willing to try the experiment.

389 Ace-o-aces  Apr 30, 2015 9:22:41am

I’m not kidding. I’ve seen all of those things claimed.

390 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 30, 2015 9:22:50am

re: #387 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Until I go to sleep and wake up again it’ll still be Wednesday—Notify WWV.

Oh right, today is supposed to be Thursday.

391 ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2015 9:22:50am

I sure hope the African American citizens of the U.S. are finding out how important it is to get out and vote in ALL elections. The last few years should be all the example they need to turn out the vote in something as simple as an off year local election only. Detroit, Baltimore and Ferguson are great examples of how much local politics is important.

393 Targetpractice  Apr 30, 2015 9:25:04am

re: #380 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Guess the driver of the van and the other cops in the van forgot about that one.

/

It’s just another item that the prosecutor will have fun with if this ever goes to trial. They now have the cops involved in a lie of omission, failing to note a stop that only became known to investigators when they got ahold of camera footage from a third party. Any testimony that the cops involved gave where they failed to mention the stop is now suspect.

394 gwangung  Apr 30, 2015 9:28:04am

re: #393 Targetpractice

It’s just another item that the prosecutor will have fun with if this ever goes to trial. They now have the cops involved in a lie of omission, failing to note a stop that only became known to investigators when they got ahold of camera footage from a third party. Any testimony that the cops involved gave where they failed to mention the stop is now suspect.

You’re assuming the prosecutor will want to do this and not just ignore it.

395 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 30, 2015 9:28:24am

re: #391 ObserverArt

I sure hope the African American citizens of the U.S. are finding out how important it is to get out and vote in ALL elections. The last few years should be all the example they need to turn out the vote in something as simple as an off year local election only. Detroit, Baltimore and Ferguson are great examples of how much local politics is important.

Somebody’s got to come up with a pithy slogan that will somehow incorporate all the recent police murders with the notion that “If you don’t vote, you’re saying you’re fine with this”. Any advertising people in the house?

396 gwangung  Apr 30, 2015 9:30:17am

re: #391 ObserverArt

I sure hope the African American citizens of the U.S. are finding out how important it is to get out and vote in ALL elections. The last few years should be all the example they need to turn out the vote in something as simple as an off year local election only. Detroit, Baltimore and Ferguson are great examples of how much local politics is important.

Assuming that they’ll be allowed to vote. Not a foregone conclusion, given the shenanigans surrounding voting rights.

397 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 9:30:26am

Things Drudge will never headline, even though they’re completely accurate:

Police: We killed before, we will kill again, and we can claim justified use of deadly force even when you aren’t a threat.

Police: You pay for our misconduct every day.

Police: Existing While Black Means Gives Us Probable Cause*

*DoJ reports keep finding racial profiling and animus against minority communities anywhere/everywhere they look.

398 Eventual Carrion  Apr 30, 2015 9:31:47am

re: #393 Targetpractice

It’s just another item that the prosecutor will have fun with if this ever goes to trial. They now have the cops involved in a lie of omission, failing to note a stop that only became known to investigators when they got ahold of camera footage from a third party. Any testimony that the cops involved gave where they failed to mention the stop is now suspect.

For you or me it would, but these hero’s of justice cannot be held to those exacting standards. It would hinder their ability to kill protect citizens.

399 ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2015 9:32:02am

re: #396 gwangung

Assuming that they’ll be allowed to vote. Not a foregone conclusion, given the shenanigans surrounding voting rights.

This is sadly true. And another reason they we all need to be aware and get out to vote to try to stop this crap. This country is slipping backwards as far as social issues.

400 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 9:32:20am

re: #363 goddamnedfrank

I’m surprised that he hasn’t blocked you yet - even though you’ve poked more holes in his stories than I can count.

401 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 9:32:41am
402 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 9:33:22am

Welp, the Munchkin has picked up an ear infection, so it’s amoxicillin for him twice a day. And he only mentioned his ear bothering him this morning. The other stuff, as I thought, will resolve itself.

Kids. : )

403 goddamnedfrank  Apr 30, 2015 9:33:29am

Chuck says that Taitz was wrong when she said, on May 21, 2014 - “He also stated that he is also preparing to launch a web site together with the filmmaker Joel Gilbert.” So it’s just some magical coincidence that GotNews dot com listed Gilbert as co-author (Wayback Machine) on the Cochran piece when it was first published over a month later on June 30th.

On June 30, Johnson published a story that was viewed in conservative circles as a bombshell — and in mainstream circles as a joke.

404 lizardofid  Apr 30, 2015 9:33:44am

re: #395 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
How about:

“Vote like your life depends on it”

405 ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2015 9:34:50am

re: #404 lizardofid

How about:

“Vote like your life depends on it”

Suggest shortening that to:

Vote. Your Life Depends On It!

406 Ace-o-aces  Apr 30, 2015 9:35:38am
407 lizardofid  Apr 30, 2015 9:35:46am

re: #404 lizardofid

(That wasn’t meant to sound flippant, I hope it doesn’t seem so)

408 lizardofid  Apr 30, 2015 9:36:25am

re: #405 ObserverArt

this

409 Targetpractice  Apr 30, 2015 9:36:54am

re: #394 gwangung

You’re assuming the prosecutor will want to do this and not just ignore it.

After reading about the state attorney involved in this matter, I’m somewhat confident that she will want to pursue this to the bitter end, rather than acting as other prosecutors have in dumping the case to avoid harming her relationship with the police.

She’s four months on the job, after a surprise win last November while campaigning against police violence. And her husband is a member of the city council who had this to say the press the other day:

“This is bigger than Freddie Gray,” he said in an interview with Fox News on Monday night. “This is about the socioeconomics of poor urban America.” The rioters were exhibiting “decades-old anger and frustration for a system that’s failed them,” he added.

So yeah, I have a somewhat good feeling about this, that we’re not looking at a “good ol’ boy” with years of rubbing shoulders with the PD and letting cops off the hook for shit you and I wouldn’t get away with.

410 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 30, 2015 9:37:32am

I occasionally read message boards elsewhere (particularly cross stitch related) and made the mistake of clicking on a thread about Baltimore. Or rather, to be specific, the fact that the word “thug” can be racist.

Cue lots of people talking about dictionary definitions, that they’ve never heard it used that way, that we shouldn’t be sheep and allow the media to tell us what terms are racist and what aren’t, a non-trivial amount of (probably) subconscious racism when talking about the looters, and a few people talking about the fact that in a lot of places, it’s used as a replacement for other words that are less acceptable to say in public.

Roundly being ignored by the rest of the group.

Very little acknowledgement of the issues at the heart of all of this either. Sadly. And I suspect that cross section of the public is probably more representative (in some ways) than we are here - the nature of the site and all.

411 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 9:38:41am

Erick Erickson just retweeted this troll stalking spoof account==>

412 Targetpractice  Apr 30, 2015 9:39:10am

re: #401 Lord Of The Pies

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What is the “diversity” in the GOP field? Two white Cubanos who are indistinguishable from the white guys in the field? A white woman who ran HP into the ground? A black neurosurgeon who’s just there for the speaking gigs?

413 BeachDem  Apr 30, 2015 9:39:18am

re: #370 Lord Of The Pies

Rick Snyder wants to destroy what’s left of Detroit schools==>

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I still think that, while people concentrate on other obnoxious GOP governors, Snyder is the most heinous of them all—and definitely not the mild-mannered nerd he likes to portray himself. He is a very scary man.

414 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 30, 2015 9:39:43am

Sigh.

415 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 9:39:43am
416 Targetpractice  Apr 30, 2015 9:40:30am

re: #415 lawhawk

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Yeah, but what are the odds that they’ll face more than a wrist slap or a piddly fine?

417 goddamnedfrank  Apr 30, 2015 9:40:43am

re: #400 lawhawk

I’m surprised that he hasn’t blocked you yet - even though you’ve poked more holes in his stories than I can count.

I’ve been blocked for a long time. Somehow that doesn’t stop him from seeing my shit and periodically responding to it.

418 Bubblehead II  Apr 30, 2015 9:42:41am

Seattle is preparing for possible May Day riots tomorrow.

SEATTLE — As the May Day marches descend upon the city, business owners and local leaders aren’t taking any chances. Police expect to be challenged on multiple fronts, knowing that passions have re-ignited with the crisis in Baltimore.

419 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 9:43:18am

A new eruption at Calbuco, Chile.

420 BeachDem  Apr 30, 2015 9:45:08am

re: #393 Targetpractice

It’s just another item that the prosecutor will have fun with if this ever goes to trial. They now have the cops involved in a lie of omission, failing to note a stop that only became known to investigators when they got ahold of camera footage from a third party. Any testimony that the cops involved gave where they failed to mention the stop is now suspect.

And sadly, it probably won’t make one damn bit of difference—as we saw in Ferguson, the prosecutor can lead the conversation so that any lying liar will be believed.

421 WhatEVs  Apr 30, 2015 9:45:17am

re: #358 Lidane

Pandering Republican Fuckwits, Thursday morning edition:

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Does this clown ever say anything that is worthy of consideration? He’s like a ball bouncing off the wall…I’ll say this! (bounce) No that! (bounce) No, really, I meant this! (bounce)

Jeez, and we have to put up with this shit for how many more months?

Shoot. Me. Now.

422 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 30, 2015 9:46:07am

re: #418 Bubblehead II

Seattle is preparing for possible May Day riots tomorrow.

SEATTLE — As the May Day marches descend upon the city, business owners and local leaders aren’t taking any chances. Police expect to be challenged on multiple fronts, knowing that passions have re-ignited with the crisis in Baltimore.

Still taking the easy way out and deciding how much force to apply rather than asking why it’s come to this.

423 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 9:47:40am

re: #346 Lord Of The Pies

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It’s all cuteness and cuddly until they pee on you…

424 Lidane  Apr 30, 2015 9:47:42am
425 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 9:47:59am
426 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 9:48:19am

re: #413 BeachDem

I still think that, while people concentrate on other obnoxious GOP governors, Snyder is the most heinous of them all—and definitely not the mild-mannered nerd he likes to portray himself. He is a very scary man.

We’re having a special election next week on a proposal to “fix the roads” by RAISING THE FUCKING SALES TAX. At the same time, abolish the diesel fuel tax because HURR HURR TEH JERB CREEYATERZ BUYS MOAR DIESEL!!!!!!

427 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 30, 2015 9:49:29am

re: #418 Bubblehead II

Seattle is preparing for possible May Day riots tomorrow.

SEATTLE — As the May Day marches descend upon the city, business owners and local leaders aren’t taking any chances. Police expect to be challenged on multiple fronts, knowing that passions have re-ignited with the crisis in Baltimore.

I’ve got mixed feelings about that. I’d like us to show solidarity with the people in Baltimore, but…Norm Stamper was trying to clean up the SPD and then the Battle of Seattle came along and I guess they thought he didn’t bust enough heads or something, so they fired him and hired a succession of bloodthirsty Cossacks—that asshole Kerlikowske the Drug Warrior™ for example. Now they finally have a new woman police chief who’s trying to take things in a better direction and a serious riot could discredit her and set us back another 15 years.

Disclaimer—I don’t live in the city any more, so I have no say one way or the other.

428 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 9:50:10am

re: #426 Lord Of The Pies

We’re having a special election next week on a proposal to “fix the roads” by RAISING THE FUCKING SALES TAX. At the same time, abolish the diesel fuel tax because HURR HURR TEH JERB CREEYATERZ BUYS MOAR DIESEL!!!!!!

So—more sales tax on the poor, of course.

Are they taxing rents yet for tenants?

429 Dr. Matt  Apr 30, 2015 9:50:59am

Wing-nuts are now claiming that the Founding Fathers would oppose Operation Jade Helm 15, something, something Federalist Papers.

430 b.d.  Apr 30, 2015 9:51:01am

re: #363 goddamnedfrank

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Not sure why Chuck is trying to pretend now that he didn’t launch GotNews in partnership with Joel S Gilbert. Especially since he’s adopted Gilbert’s Frank Marshall Davis theory in total. In addition to telling Orly Taitz that he was launching GotNews with Gilbert, and originally listing Gilbert as the co-author on the Cochran / Stevie Fielder bullshit article, The Blaze clearly identified both Johnson and Gilbert as “the folks behind GotNews.com.”

“David Frost paid for the Nixon tapes, goodness sake.”

Chuck C really is the dumbest genius I have ever run across.

431 Bubblehead II  Apr 30, 2015 9:52:13am

re: #422 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Still taking the easy way out and deciding how much force to apply rather than asking why it’s come to this.

Yep.

432 Kragar  Apr 30, 2015 9:52:36am
433 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 30, 2015 9:52:42am

re: #430 b.d.

“David Frost paid for the Nixon tapes, goodness sake.”

Chuck C really is the dumbest genius I have ever run across.

Well, now that Edward Teller’s dead….

434 Kragar  Apr 30, 2015 9:53:32am

re: #429 Dr. Matt

The Founding Father also imagined that a civilian militia would be able to cover all of our National Defense needs.

435 Kragar  Apr 30, 2015 9:54:39am

re: #417 goddamnedfrank

I’ve been blocked for a long time. Somehow that doesn’t stop him from seeing my shit and periodically responding to it.

Ditto

436 BeachDem  Apr 30, 2015 9:55:00am

re: #426 Lord Of The Pies

We’re having a special election next week on a proposal to “fix the roads” by RAISING THE FUCKING SALES TAX. At the same time, abolish the diesel fuel tax because HURR HURR TEH JERB CREEYATERZ BUYS MOAR DIESEL!!!!!!

Surprised it gets an election. Why didn’t the omnipotent Snyder just declare it a done deal as he’s done with so many other aspects of what used to be called democracy?

(And hey—did anyone check the font size?)

thinkprogress.org

437 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 9:55:16am
438 WhatEVs  Apr 30, 2015 9:56:29am

re: #415 lawhawk

Is that your shocked face I see? //

439 De Kolta Chair  Apr 30, 2015 9:58:32am
440 Amory Blaine  Apr 30, 2015 9:58:43am

Eaton outsourcing WI jobs to Mexico again, despite getting $370K from WEDC

A global power systems management corporation that has received nearly $370,000 in tax incentives from the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation (WEDC) since 2012 is shipping jobs from Wisconsin to Mexico for the second time in three years.

Eaton Corp. announced last week it is permanently discontinuing the manufacture of printed circuit boards at its facility in Watertown, which will result in the elimination of 93 employees there.

Scott Walker dissolved the Dept. of Commerce to create the WEDC, which has been mired in possible corruption and known incompetence since its inception.

Republicans draft bill to merge economic agencies

Republican legislators want to merge Wisconsin’s two major economic development agencies into a new entity with a stand-alone bill rather than through Gov. Scott Walker’s budget.

The governor’s budget proposal calls for merging the troubled Wisconsin Economic Development Corp. and the Wisconsin Housing and Economic Development Authority into the Forward Wisconsin Development Authority.

Sen. Rick Gudex, R-Fond du Lac, and Rep. Rob Hutton, R-Brookfield, sent a memo to lawmakers Wednesday saying they’ve crafted a separate bill implementing the merger at Walker’s request and need co-sponsors by Monday…

Minority Democrats on the panel blasted the merger, saying it would create an unaccountable entity. Audits in 2012 and 2013 showed WEDC, Walker’s flagship job creation engine, lost track of $12 million in overdue loans and gave money to ineligible projects between July 2011 and June 2012. The agency also has seen considerable turnover in its upper ranks.

441 Lidane  Apr 30, 2015 10:00:06am

Steve King needs to just put his Klan robes on already:

442 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 30, 2015 10:00:18am

re: #415 lawhawk

ICYMI: #NRA may have systemically broken numerous FEC & IRS rules/laws w/dodgy donation practices

The NRA will fight any attempt to levy so much as a fine all the way to the Supreme Court. The court will decide that anything that infringes the NRA’s ability to do as it damned well pleases is a violation of the 2nd amendment.

443 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 10:01:08am

re: #438 WhatEVs

Is that your shocked face I see? //

I’m out of shocked face. It’s on back order.

444 Bubblehead II  Apr 30, 2015 10:01:16am

re: #432 Kragar

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BUT THAT’S NOT WHAT WE MEANT !

When will these idiots ever learn about the law of unintended consequences? They got their RFRA’s enacted, but didn’t stop to think about others using them in ways they should have known was going to happen

445 Timothy Watson  Apr 30, 2015 10:01:25am

re: #441 Lidane

Steve King needs to just put his Klan robes on already:

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So a part of the Constitution is just a “ploy”?

446 Kragar  Apr 30, 2015 10:01:42am
447 BeachDem  Apr 30, 2015 10:01:49am

Ted Cruz has a vision for Amurrka—people working their fingers to the bone.

Now if you want people to work their fingers to the bones — hard work — you’ll have Hispanic men and women lining up to work hard and provide for their families. Those are all conservative values.

And more pandering to the Hispanic community.

Ted Cruz: ‘I Don’t Think I’ve Ever Seen A Hispanic Panhandler’

thinkprogress.org

448 Kragar  Apr 30, 2015 10:02:58am

re: #444 Bubblehead II

BUT THAT’S NOT WHAT WE MEANT !

When will these idiots ever learn about the law of unintended consequences? They got their RFRA’s enacted, but didn’t stop to think about others using them in way they should have known was going to happen

“Sir, you’re going to have to come with us.”

“Why are you discriminating against my deeply held religious belief that snorting coke off a hooker’s ass is considered prayer?”

449 Lidane  Apr 30, 2015 10:03:13am

re: #446 Kragar

450 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 10:03:23am

re: #440 Amory Blaine

Walker and the GOP have been playing games with the EDC and moved various programs out of separate agencies and into the newly formed one that is more tightly controlled by the governor. At the same time, the incompetence has grown exponentially and the incentive programs that had been functioning adequately are getting run into the ground.

451 Dr. Matt  Apr 30, 2015 10:03:25am

re: #434 Kragar

The Founding Father also imagined that a civilian militia would be able to cover all of our National Defense needs.

The Founding Fathers were also slave owners and didn’t permit women to vote.

But, George Washington smoked weed….so, that’s kewl

…

452 A Cranky One  Apr 30, 2015 10:03:45am

re: #423 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s all cuteness and cuddly until they pee on you…

No problem.

453 Eventual Carrion  Apr 30, 2015 10:04:03am

re: #422 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Still taking the easy way out and deciding how much force to apply rather than asking why it’s come to this.

But if any one of us should interfere
In the business of why they are poor
They get the same as the rebel Jesus

— The Chieftains - The Rebel Jesus

454 Lidane  Apr 30, 2015 10:04:27am

re: #447 BeachDem

All the pandering in the world won’t save his smarmy Cuban ass.

As long as he’s in favor of mass deportations, and as long as he opposes things like the DREAM Act and Obamacare, Ted Cruz will never win over Latino voters.

455 EPR-radar  Apr 30, 2015 10:04:41am

re: #445 Timothy Watson

So a part of the Constitution is just a “ploy”?

Not so incidentally, the 14th amendment was written and passed by Republicans.

Modern Republicans truly have no principles at all, since they are even prepared to abandon their previous accomplishments.

I predict that the 13th amendment will become a GOP target in due course.

456 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 10:04:53am

Wonder if there are enough votes to override it (2/3) in an R controlled leg). Because you know they will. Next year, they’ll try to reduce the kids’ age from 3 yrs 9 mos to 6 mos.

Missouri governor vetoes bill that would have cut welfare benefits for low-income families - @AP
end of alert

“The bill would reduce the lifetime limit for benefits under the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program from five years to three years and nine months, starting next January. The Department of Social Services estimates 3,155 families would lose benefits.

“It also would drop people from the program for failing to meet work requirements.” more

fox2now.com

Sorry about the FN link but no other stories on it.

457 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 10:05:51am

re: #440 Amory Blaine

That’s just petty cash to use when they move.

458 wrenchwench  Apr 30, 2015 10:07:02am

He had a job before he was Worf.

459 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 10:07:45am

Found on my FB feed, posted by one of my sisters:

460 Kragar  Apr 30, 2015 10:09:14am
461 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 30, 2015 10:10:16am

re: #460 Kragar

Support are trops!!!

462 Eventual Carrion  Apr 30, 2015 10:10:19am

re: #441 Lidane

Steve King needs to just put his Klan robes on already:

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Steve King also believes everything stops when he leaves a room and doesn’t start up again until he returns.

463 wrenchwench  Apr 30, 2015 10:10:59am

re: #460 Kragar

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Where the military has a number of bases, hey, wait.

464 Kragar  Apr 30, 2015 10:11:59am
465 Eventual Carrion  Apr 30, 2015 10:13:12am

re: #447 BeachDem

Ted Cruz has a vision for Amurrka—people working their fingers to the bone.

Now if you want people to work their fingers to the bones — hard work — you’ll have Hispanic men and women lining up to work hard and provide for their families. Those are all conservative values.

And more pandering to the Hispanic community.

Ted Cruz: ‘I Don’t Think I’ve Ever Seen A Hispanic Panhandler’

thinkprogress.org

I’m sure there are a lot of “little people” you have never seen in your casual walks through city streets Ted.

466 Kragar  Apr 30, 2015 10:13:18am
467 Bubblehead II  Apr 30, 2015 10:14:29am

bbiaw

468 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 10:14:36am

Republican Plan for the Poors:

Make them constantly look for jobs that aren’t there while we reward companies for tightening up their workforce by making them work faster for less money.

Meanwhile cut benefits to the bone, denying as many as possible because they “won’t work”.

Signed,
The Pro-Life Party whose slogan is, “We demoralize you so you don’t have to. Just fuck off and die and take your kids with you.”

469 b.d.  Apr 30, 2015 10:15:03am

re: #460 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Those guys don’t sound crazy at all. No siree, not one bit.

A prepper website claims that an anonymous Texas Ranger reported “trains are moving throughout Texas and some of them have been outfitted with shackles, presumably to ‘transport prisoners of some sort.’”

The website said the claims back other conspiracy theories about “dissident roundups,” and the alleged “law enforcement insider” also suggested that shuttered Walmart stores might be used as staging points for the Department of Homeland Security.

“We expecting an attack on more than one Texas city or town by ISIS and/or any of their partners,” the anonymous Ranger claims in a letter.

rawstory.com

470 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 10:15:21am

re: #432 Kragar

Finally. Kudos.

471 BeachDem  Apr 30, 2015 10:17:48am

re: #450 lawhawk

Walker and the GOP have been playing games with the EDC and moved various programs out of separate agencies and into the newly formed one that is more tightly controlled by the governor. At the same time, the incompetence has grown exponentially and the incentive programs that had been functioning adequately are getting run into the ground.

See: Kasich—Jobs Ohio.

cleveland.com

and

A newspaper review found that six of nine board members of Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s privatized economic development office, JobsOhio, have ties to companies that received tax credits or other state or JobsOhio assistance since Kasich took office in 2011.

ohio.com

Rinse. Repeat.

472 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 30, 2015 10:18:55am

re: #469 b.d.

OMG! An attack by ISIS might leave a Texas town a godforsaken hellhole.

473 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 10:19:08am

Statement From SAO on Receiving BPD Investigation
For Immediate Release 4/30/2015

The State’s Attorney’s Office has in fact received the hardcopies of the Baltimore Police Department’s investigative file; however, the results of their investigation is not new to us.

We have been briefed regularly throughout their process while simultaneously conducting our own independent investigation into the death of Freddie Gray. While we have and will continue to leverage the information received by the Department, we are not relying solely on their findings but rather the facts that we have gathered and verified. We ask for the public to remain patient and peaceful and to trust the process of the justice system.

State’s Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby

stattorney.org

474 b.d.  Apr 30, 2015 10:20:08am

re: #472 Higgs Boson’s Mate

OMG! An attack by ISIS might leave a Texas town a godforsaken hellhole.

But any overtaken Texas town would be under less strict religious laws.

//

475 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 10:20:26am

re: #469 b.d.

Those guys don’t sound crazy at all. No siree, not one bit.

A prepper website claims that an anonymous Texas Ranger reported “trains are moving throughout Texas and some of them have been outfitted with shackles, presumably to ‘transport prisoners of some sort.’”

The website said the claims back other conspiracy theories about “dissident roundups,” and the alleged “law enforcement insider” also suggested that shuttered Walmart stores might be used as staging points for the Department of Homeland Security.

“We expecting an attack on more than one Texas city or town by ISIS and/or any of their partners,” the anonymous Ranger claims in a letter.

rawstory.com

Why would ISIS attack Texas, where all the Open Carries are?

/

476 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 10:20:37am

Journalism!!!

477 wrenchwench  Apr 30, 2015 10:20:44am

re: #472 Higgs Boson’s Mate

OMG! An attack by ISIS might leave improve a Texas town to a godforsaken hellhole.

FTFY.

478 Eventual Carrion  Apr 30, 2015 10:20:52am

re: #469 b.d.

Those guys don’t sound crazy at all. No siree, not one bit.

A prepper website claims that an anonymous Texas Ranger reported “trains are moving throughout Texas and some of them have been outfitted with shackles, presumably to ‘transport prisoners of some sort.’”

The website said the claims back other conspiracy theories about “dissident roundups,” and the alleged “law enforcement insider” also suggested that shuttered Walmart stores might be used as staging points for the Department of Homeland Security.

“We expecting an attack on more than one Texas city or town by ISIS and/or any of their partners,” the anonymous Ranger claims in a letter.

At least jobs are being created.

479 Kryptik  Apr 30, 2015 10:21:04am

Internet Racists Are Pretending to Be Black Looters in Baltimore

If you look at the #BaltimoreLootCrew hashtag, you’ll see what looks like Baltimore residents—all black—bragging about things they’ve stolen during this week’s civil unrest. But none of these photos are real. Instead, it’s the work of 8chan-affiliated white supremacists, bubbling over the sort of message board fecal matter that would’ve been confined to /b/ in the era before social media. Those were the days! Now, malicious falsehoods have been democratized.

The worst thing about it is that it’ll work, enough to fool enough people and pull them completely away from any sort of rational response to whatever happens next in Baltimore.

480 Kragar  Apr 30, 2015 10:23:55am

re: #472 Higgs Boson’s Mate

OMG! An attack by ISIS might leave a Texas town a godforsaken hellhole.

THEY’RE ALREADY HERE!

481 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 30, 2015 10:24:07am

re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth

Journalism!!!

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I linked this to my sister and her comment was “bet the man is black.”

482 b.d.  Apr 30, 2015 10:25:40am

The thought of what ISIS would do to a restaurant’s Tex-Mex menu is enough to make me want to stand watch at the border.

483 Timothy Watson  Apr 30, 2015 10:26:14am

re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth

Journalism!!!

[Embedded content]

They updated the story, that paragraph now reads:

Two robbers also stole other electronics, prescription drugs and $7,500 in cash. A 20-year-old man was also kidnapped, according to the report (though he was released after being driven less than a mile by his kidnappers).

484 WhatEVs  Apr 30, 2015 10:28:36am

re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth

Journalism!!!

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Priorities!

485 De Kolta Chair  Apr 30, 2015 10:28:48am

re: #441 Lidane

Steve King has “demographic” worries about birthright citizenship, thinks it’s a ploy for votes

Why does Steve King hate Ted Cruz?

486 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 30, 2015 10:29:25am

re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a known fact that Apple products are easier to steal than Windows products.

487 ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2015 10:30:18am

re: #471 BeachDem

See: Kasich—Jobs Ohio.

cleveland.com

and

A newspaper review found that six of nine board members of Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s privatized economic development office, JobsOhio, have ties to companies that received tax credits or other state or JobsOhio assistance since Kasich took office in 2011.

ohio.com

Rinse. Repeat.

I’m surprised any newspapers were able to review anything. Kasuck has hidden just about everything to do with that whole Jobs Ohio scam. I’m also surprised it was only six of the nine board members. They need to keep digging…I am sure they are all in on sweet deals.

John Kasuck is such a Christian man! Ask him, he’ll tell you.

488 GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 30, 2015 10:30:54am

Just read it.

salon.com

489 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 10:31:39am

WTF?

490 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 10:32:19am

re: #483 Timothy Watson

They updated the story, that paragraph now reads:

BUT THE CVS!!!!!!

491 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 10:33:11am

re: #489 Justanotherhuman

WTF?

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THERE IS A REAL JACK BAUER!!!!!!!

492 Targetpractice  Apr 30, 2015 10:34:39am

Apparently the latest whine from the wingnuts is “How dare you suggest that we are using ‘thug’ in place of ‘ni-CLANG!’?!?!”

493 Ace-o-aces  Apr 30, 2015 10:35:18am

re: #489 Justanotherhuman

WTF?

[Embedded content]

I figure now that they’re not allowed to spy on every Muslim in NYC, they’ve got more time on their hands.

494 WhatEVs  Apr 30, 2015 10:35:57am

re: #489 Justanotherhuman

WTF?

The Swedish story…ICYMI.

495 De Kolta Chair  Apr 30, 2015 10:36:38am

re: #489 Justanotherhuman

WTF?

Speaking of NYC:

He was later arrested.

496 ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2015 10:37:50am

I finally figured out why all this military take over of west Texas is going down and no one has seen anything.

Yep. Stealth Army.

No hard edges, clothing that absorbs radar and other tracking devices, night vision, all black uniforms with digital technology that allows them to display camo that blends into local background, no heat maps…or pixel size differences.

That damn Obama again. Gotta watch him.

497 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 10:38:03am

sigh…

498 The War TARDIS  Apr 30, 2015 10:38:30am

re: #479 Kryptik

8Chan is also the pond scum responsible for Gamergate.

Hopefully, these clowns are on a watchlist somewhere.

499 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 10:39:08am

re: #397 lawhawk

Things Drudge will never headline, even though they’re completely accurate:

Police: We killed before, we will kill again, and we can claim justified use of deadly force even when you aren’t a threat.

Police: You pay for our misconduct every day.

Police: Existing While Black Means Gives Us Probable Cause*

*DoJ reports keep finding racial profiling and animus against minority communities anywhere/everywhere they look.

Police: Remember that going with OCP is worse.

* - For those who miss the reference OCP is the fictional corporation privatizing the Detroit police force in the Robocop movies.

500 BeachDem  Apr 30, 2015 10:39:58am

Journalism! (bolding mine)

I really feel mentally he was not really with it, and possibly he was on drugs…”

“I don’t want to rush to judgement. Let’s wait. Everybody should wait for the information to come out.”

And then Dietl offered another scenario.

“Do you think possibly when the cops are chasing him, he was trying to get away, he slip and fall and he made an injury,” Dietl speculated. “Now by going into the van there, he made the injury worse. That could have very well happened.”

rawstory.com

501 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 10:42:09am

Uh Rand, most of that is on MILITARY.

502 BeenHereAwhile  Apr 30, 2015 10:42:21am

re: #252 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Like when blacks in the south would hang themselves, light themselves on fire and force all those good Christian white patriots to stand around and gawk, take pictures, not get convicted of any crimes.

/

you left out ‘being chained to a fat-lighter stump, before setting the stump on fire, while the rest of the small town black community was rounded up and forced to watch as a lesson.’

In the 1960s, old man Messick would laugh as he retold this story from early days in Florida.

503 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 10:42:38am

re: #425 Justanotherhuman

Is asking the Baltimore PD to “produce the body” really the right approach?
///

504 #FergusonFireside  Apr 30, 2015 10:44:45am

re: #489 Justanotherhuman

WTF?

[Embedded content]

This is insane. All these out of town cops, getting paid overtime, travel & lodging. It’s a fucking racket.

505 RealityBasedSteve  Apr 30, 2015 10:45:14am

re: #496 ObserverArt

I finally figured out why all this military take over of west Texas is going down and no one has seen anything.

Yep. Stealth Army.

No hard edges, clothing that absorbs radar and other tracking devices, night vision, all black uniforms with digital technology that allows them to display camo that blends into local background, no heat maps…or pixel size differences.

That damn Obama again. Gotta watch him.

It’s “Task Force Chameleon” Proof again that lizards are secretly running the world.

RBS

506 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 10:45:18am

re: #499 Feline Fearless Leader

Murphy, is that you? /

507 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 10:45:42am

re: #500 BeachDem

Journalism! (bolding mine)

I really feel mentally he was not really with it, and possibly he was on drugs…”

“I don’t want to rush to judgement. Let’s wait. Everybody should wait for the information to come out.”

And then Dietl offered another scenario.

“Do you think possibly when the cops are chasing him, he was trying to get away, he slip and fall and he made an injury,” Dietl speculated. “Now by going into the van there, he made the injury worse. That could have very well happened.”

rawstory.com

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

/

508 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 10:47:02am

re: #440 Amory Blaine

Eaton outsourcing WI jobs to Mexico again, despite getting $370K from WEDC

Scott Walker dissolved the Dept. of Commerce to create the WEDC, which has been mired in possible corruption and known incompetence since its inception.

Republicans draft bill to merge economic agencies

That’s Scott Walker just reinforcing his credentials for getting the GOP nomination.
////

509 lawhawk  Apr 30, 2015 10:48:49am

re: #501 Lord Of The Pies

510 Kryptik  Apr 30, 2015 10:49:44am

re: #489 Justanotherhuman

I would say De Blasio should be acting here, but the past few months have already made it clear the NYPD really doesn’t give a shit about his authority, they’ll be as good ol’ boys be, and fuck anyone who wants to cross the blue line.

511 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 10:50:34am

re: #477 wrenchwench

FTFY.

Wouldn’t an ISIS takeover be a god-granted religious hierarchy establishing control in his will?
////

512 Kragar  Apr 30, 2015 10:50:38am

re: #509 lawhawk

513 Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 30, 2015 10:51:40am

re: #489 Justanotherhuman

WTF?

Maybe they think there are some good coverup pointers to learn.
////

514 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 10:53:39am

heh:

515 Kragar  Apr 30, 2015 10:53:43am
516 Targetpractice  Apr 30, 2015 10:54:21am

re: #512 Kragar

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And thus we begin the “tax pledge” tap dance, where the GOP candidates try to remain true to their pledge to Grover and promise all sorts of new/increased spending while promising things like a balanced budget.

517 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 30, 2015 10:54:41am

re: #489 Justanotherhuman

The NYPD has sent “Intelligence” & “Counter Terrorism” cops to Baltimore

They will help the mayor and police chief discover the real reason for the civil unrest.

518 Charles Johnson  Apr 30, 2015 10:55:25am
519 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 10:55:32am
520 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 10:56:08am
521 rhuarc  Apr 30, 2015 10:57:15am

re: #518 Charles Johnson

Of course they won’t. They’ll just say that all of the exposure they gave it was the only reason martial law didn’t happen. They were directly responsible for saving the Republic!!!!!

522 Charles Johnson  Apr 30, 2015 10:57:18am
523 Lord Of The Pies  Apr 30, 2015 10:59:09am

re: #522 Charles Johnson

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Stupid people can’t feel stupid, just like dead people don’t know they’re dead.

524 jaunte  Apr 30, 2015 10:59:27am

re: #521 rhuarc

Eternal twitter vigilance is the cost of twitter freedom!

525 Justanotherhuman  Apr 30, 2015 11:00:21am

re: #522 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

I don’t think any of them have any self-awareness whatsoever.

526 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 11:00:38am

re: #522 Charles Johnson

They will claim success in saving Texas.

527 b.d.  Apr 30, 2015 11:00:40am

Why don’t we slash the military budget in half every year for the next 5 years so they won’t be able to do this to us?!

//

If only

528 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 30, 2015 11:01:48am

re: #521 rhuarc

Of course they won’t. They’ll just say that all of the exposure they gave it was the only reason martial law didn’t happen. They were directly responsible for saving the Republic!!!!!

“May this house be safe from tigers.”

529 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 11:02:00am

re: #512 Kragar

You can’t get any more serious budget deficit debt reducing than that.

/

530 ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2015 11:02:52am

re: #522 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs

All you gullible marks who were taken in by con man Alex Jones about #JadeHelm are going to feel really stupid when nothing happens.

1:56 PM - 30 Apr 2015

Unpossible!

How can you feel really stupid when you are already really stupid?

531 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 30, 2015 11:05:36am

re: #530 ObserverArt

They’re like fish swimming in a sea of stupid.

532 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 11:05:53am

re: #522 Charles Johnson

Actually they will take credit for stopping it.

533 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 30, 2015 11:06:07am

re: #521 rhuarc

Of course they won’t. They’ll just say that all of the exposure they gave it was the only reason martial law didn’t happen. They were directly responsible for saving the Republic!!!!!

Let us remember all the diabolical schemes unmasked by Alex Jones which didn’t happen because of the diligence and quick response from people like Alex Jones to make sure they didn’t happen and that no one ever talked about these diabolical plans.

////

534 jaunte  Apr 30, 2015 11:06:40am

Meanwhile, closer to the sun:

535 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 11:06:45am

OK, this is funny. Luckily they don’t know what a fatality is.

…

536 Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2015 11:07:08am
537 Nyet  Apr 30, 2015 11:09:04am

re: #535 Nyet

OK, this is funny. Luckily they don’t know what a fatality is.

[Embedded content]

So they had to be shown some:

…

538 Higgs Boson's Mate  Apr 30, 2015 11:09:29am

re: #535 Nyet

Babality!

539 ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2015 11:09:41am

re: #533 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Let us remember all the diabolical schemes unmasked by Alex Jones which didn’t happen because of the diligence and quick response from people like Alex Jones to make sure they didn’t happen and that no one ever talked about these diabolical plans.

////

What if Alex Jones is in fact a false flag?!?!?!

(Mind blown - you can smell the acrid smoke from the thermite.)

540 Mike Lamb  Apr 30, 2015 11:10:54am

re: #466 Kragar

[Embedded content]

NIMBY bitches!

541 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 30, 2015 11:10:55am

re: #529 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

You can’t get any more serious budget deficit debt reducing than that.

/

remember, ronald reagan cut taxes, balanced the budget, and increased military spending

542 jaunte  Apr 30, 2015 11:11:01am

re: #539 ObserverArt

What if Alex Jones is in fact a false flag?!?!?!

Well, he does get paid in “fiat money.”

543 EPR-radar  Apr 30, 2015 11:11:35am

re: #536 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wouldn’t it be funny if Rand Paul actually thinks choosing better language will be sufficient to deal with his problem (and the GOP’s problem) with blacks and other minorities?

After all, just how does one say ‘fuck off and die’ to minority groups in a politically correct way?

544 goddamnedfrank  Apr 30, 2015 11:14:57am

re: #535 Nyet

“I feel that in my own crotch!”

545 BlueSpotinAL  Apr 30, 2015 11:26:24am

re: #501 Lord Of The Pies

Uh Rand, most of that is on MILITARY.

[Embedded content]

7 million per minute is 25.7 trillion per year. Federal expenditures are 3.54 trillion per year. This gomer is incompetent to balance anything, or dishonest.

546 De Kolta Chair  Apr 30, 2015 12:08:31pm

re: #535 Nyet

OK, this is funny. Luckily they don’t know what a fatality is.

Libby’s a natural killing machine! Maybe too natural.

547 Tani  Apr 30, 2015 1:35:51pm

Pres. Obama was ask about the situation in Baltimore by Chris Jennen msnbc
at the Japan PM Abe and Pres. Obama press conference:
…
(start @ 1:00:44). this is before Jon Stewart show


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