GotNewsDotCom Identifies Wrong Woman as Wife of Garland, TX, Shooter

And the shooter, for a two-fer!
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@ChuckCJohnson’s pitiful excuse for a news blog once again has flunked Journalism 101 by identifying the wrong woman as the wife of Nadir Soofi, one of the two gunmen shot dead in Garland, TX, Sunday.

The woman identified by GotNewsDotCom’s ace reporter Shannon Knutsen is in fact the wife of a man living in Birmingham, England, Abu Hussain Al-Britani.

Despite having no valid proof that Soofi, 34, was even married, here’s what Johnson’s GotNews published:

Wrong woman, wrong man

More: BREAKING, EXCLUSIVE: @GotNewsDotCom identifies wrong woman as wife of Garland, TX, shooter

It should come as no surprise that the usual RWNJs now take this travesty of reporting as the gospel truth and are harassing the owner of that Twitter account, plus anyone with a similar account name.

Knutsen’s reporting is wrong on multiple levels. Al-Britani was not one of the shooters. He’s still alive — in England. The woman referenced in the article is in fact his wife, though.

The real shooters, Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi, were apparently both single and sharing an apartment in Phoenix. Simpson may have been following al-Britani’s Twitter account, but al-Britani is not Soofi, being alive and all.

But it’s Award Winning Journalism, folks!

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573 comments
1 Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 5, 2015 5:09:40am

The modern cult of “Personal Responsibility” never seems to have any in the first place. We see this over and over amongst the far right Libertarian Utopianist wing in this country. From corporate emperors like the Koch Empire, to cable news empires like Fox News, to ideological blogger hacks all share the same sense of an alternate “Triumph of the Will” reality. One can make reality bend to your dreams and ideology- in other words - Utopia.

For CCJ this means no ethical understanding of the Press and its responsibilities is necessary or even wanted. Things like proper investigation, verification of facts, confirmation of sources etc etc are not only inconvenient, but a hinderance of the real objective- The objective being the propagation and promotion of ideology, fear, bigotry, and xenophobia.

In other words, Pure Propaganda. Let society deal with the ramifications of false reporting and false “facts”. He’s got a (failing) business to run.

2 Iwouldprefernotto  May 5, 2015 5:33:43am

CCJ made a mistake? I’m shocked. Shocked.

3 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 5, 2015 5:34:37am

re: #1 Rocky-in-Connecticut

From his previous behavior when called out on his egregious errors, CCJ will just ignore the whole issue. There will be no attempt to clarify or correct the post. It will remain there for other nutjobs to repeat and retweet as if it were 100% true. The fact the two alleged gunmen were not even married is but a minor detail.

Maybe this UmmHussainBritaniyah is an ISIS supporter, or even a member. So what? She wasn’t one of the shooters, nor was her husband, and they live in England. Bringing her and her husband into the discussion only adds more FUD.

4 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 5, 2015 5:36:43am

Thanks for the promo, Charles!

5 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 5:39:30am

STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME OF THE DAY==>
I just hope that baby has a kevlar diaper.

6 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 5:43:24am

Facts are meaningless to what the RWNJs want to accomplish—the dumbing down of the US.

Meanwhile,

Jesushhristonabiscuit, where are the fucking work place regulations?

Person crushed in machine at Chrysler plant in Detroit
Incident happened at Jefferson North Assembly Plant

clickondetroit.com

And Chrysler, of course, will absolve itself of the accident and blame it all on the worker.

7 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 5:45:31am

re: #6 Justanotherhuman

Facts are meaningless to what the RWNJs want to accomplish—the dumbing down of the US.

Meanwhile,

Jesushhristonabiscuit, where are the fucking work place regulations?

Person crushed in machine at Chrysler plant in Detroit
Incident happened at Jefferson North Assembly Plant

clickondetroit.com

And Chrysler, of course, will absolve itself of the accident and blame it all on the worker.

Wingnuts will blame this on TEH YOONYUNZ!!!!!! and REGULASHUNZ!!!!!!

8 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 5:49:23am

See how the 2 “opposite” sides think? Both are so extreme they’re in tandem, and both want the PR and “glory”.

Islamic State radio broadcast: ‘Two of the soldiers of the caliphate executed an attack on an art exhibit in Garland, Texas, and this exhibit was portraying negative pictures of the Prophet Mohammad’ - @AFP
read more on dailystar.com.lb

9 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 5:52:23am

LOL! GotNews dot com is down.

10 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 5:54:30am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL! GotNews dot com is down.

I want to see his Twitter account ERADICATED.

When that happens, PIE FOR EVERYONE!

11 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 5:54:54am
12 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 5:56:16am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL! GotNews dot com is down.

Well, when you’re constantly drunk and tweeting, and not taking care of business, shit happens. : )

Or maybe the Hot Asian Wife disconnnected everything back on the homefront? : )

13 Mattand  May 5, 2015 5:56:17am

re: #5 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME OF THE DAY==>
I just hope that baby has a kevlar diaper.

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Jesus, all that looks like is an ad for kidnapping infants.

14 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 5:57:06am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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Dave shows himself as utterly uninformed.

15 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 5, 2015 5:57:15am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL! GotNews dot com is down.

OK. I didn’t do that. But, good thing I got screencaps!

16 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 5:58:54am

re: #8 Justanotherhuman

See how the 2 “opposite” sides think? Both are so extreme they’re in tandem, and both want the PR and “glory”.

Islamic State radio broadcast: ‘Two of the soldiers of the caliphate executed an attack on an art exhibit in Garland, Texas, and this exhibit was portraying negative pictures of the Prophet Mohammad’ - @AFP
read more on dailystar.com.lb

This has been put up as the headline on newsmax, and being touted as the “first ISIS attack on US soil”.

Which makes it Obama’s fault

17 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 5:59:39am

re: #15 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

OK. I didn’t do that. But, good thing I got screencaps!

Obama did it!!11!!!

18 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 6:00:31am

Morning Lizards.

19 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 6:00:35am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

Obama did it!!11!!!

I thought it was just being overloaded by people who long for cutting-edge, award-winning journalism…the kind that is not afraid of police tape.

20 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 6:00:54am

re: #16 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Of course. It will be all over RW media before noon.

21 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 6:01:41am

re: #14 Justanotherhuman

23 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 5, 2015 6:02:39am

re: #8 Justanotherhuman

See how the 2 “opposite” sides think? Both are so extreme they’re in tandem, and both want the PR and “glory”.

Islamic State radio broadcast: ‘Two of the soldiers of the caliphate executed an attack on an art exhibit in Garland, Texas, and this exhibit was portraying negative pictures of the Prophet Mohammad’ - @AFP
read more on dailystar.com.lb

If they want to take credit for such an incompetent, pathetic excuse for an attack, good! It’ll just make them look like the jackholes they are. The pants-pissers will of course be in an uproar, but what else is new?

24 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 6:02:49am

re: #8 Justanotherhuman

CNN tweeted it three hours ago, without any confirmation:

25 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 5, 2015 6:04:32am

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

The BBC, too.

26 Great White Snark  May 5, 2015 6:04:46am

DAESH can claim anything they want. We need not take it seriously. Because then we are adding indirect and inappropriate weight to the claim.

27 Timothy Watson  May 5, 2015 6:05:18am

re: #5 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST GUN-FUCKING MEME OF THE DAY==>
I just hope that baby has a kevlar diaper.

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The guy’s giving the baby great support of the neck and head.

Fraking idiot.

28 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 6:07:00am

I don’t believe there was a formal affiliation of these guys and Daesh. Some fools did something foolish & Daesh is claiming them after the fact, to make themselves look, look um (the only word I can think of here is DUMB)

29 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 6:07:40am

re: #27 Timothy Watson

The guy’s giving the baby great support of the neck and head.

Fraking idiot.

The baby has a better chance of survival if it was stashed underneath the seat.

30 Dave In Austin  May 5, 2015 6:07:57am

re: #12 Justanotherhuman

She needed to plug the vacuum in.

31 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 5, 2015 6:08:35am

re: #28 Lord Of The Pies

I don’t believe there was a formal affiliation of these guys and Daesh. Some fools did something foolish & Daesh is claiming them after the fact, to make themselves look, look um (the only word I can think of here is DUMB)

All we know for sure is that Simpson followed Al-Britani and retweeted some stuff by him.

32 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 6:11:58am
33 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 6:12:07am

re: #28 Lord Of The Pies

I don’t believe there was a formal affiliation of these guys and Daesh. Some fools did something foolish & Daesh is claiming them after the fact, to make themselves look, look um (the only word I can think of here is DUMB)

When you read about what sketchy info there is about their lives, it’s fairly hard to determine, and to determine who was influencing whom. Soofi was born in Garland, TX where the attack occurred, but spent time in Pakistan after his American mother and Pakistani father’s divorce.

Both were Americans by birth.

cnn.com

34 RPCulture  May 5, 2015 6:12:51am

So he pulled an ABC News like when they hatefully blamed a shooting on the peaceful Tea Partiers.

35 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 6:14:22am
The woman identified by GotNewsDotCom’s ace reporter Shannon Knuts

Goat News has an “ace reporter”? I have to wonder about this woman’s career choices to hook up with CCJ’s sorry enterprise.

/

36 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 6:14:26am

DEVIL WORSHIPPING HAIR!!!

37 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 6:14:57am

This is going to make RW heads spin, too.

Secretary of State John Kerry finished 1st-ever visit by US Secretary of State to Somalia, announces US to re-open diplomatic mission - @markknoller
see original on twitter.com

38 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 6:19:16am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Someone once praised UpChuck?

39 Great White Snark  May 5, 2015 6:19:53am

Don’t be Fooled By Pamela Geller. CNN, Paged and just to push back leveraging on our collective talents here, I offer to buy two months of LGF subscription for the best cartoon showing her real character.

40 Dave In Austin  May 5, 2015 6:20:02am

Charles, you got mentioned here.

41 makeitstop  May 5, 2015 6:20:19am

An actual post on Facebook this morning:

I saw Dr. Carson’s ‘hat in the ring’ speech. He speaks from the heart and reaches intelligent people, however; look what he’s dealing with. I think he’d make a great VP to Sarah Palin for the values of Constitution, sensible government, family, and success in the face of adversity they both share. Candidly, that would make an incredible ticket. I hope Hillary runs so she can be land-slided out!

Oy.

42 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 5, 2015 6:21:23am

re: #41 makeitstop

An actual post on Facebook this morning:

Oy.

Someone is living in a fantasy of their own device.

43 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 6:23:17am

re: #26 Great White Snark

DAESH can claim anything they want. We need not take it seriously. Because then we are adding indirect and inappropriate weight to the claim.

If ISIS is recruiting worldwide, and it has been reported there have been Americans that have joined up, it is not out of the realm of reality to think there are some people that could be called ISIS and will claim ISIS is active here.

With a tweet, a phone call or an email to American media they can claim all they want, just as you say. And everyone will panic, just as they want.

Ahhh…the World Wide Web…spreading World Wide Panic.

It is not unlike the people freaked out about crime in America and running out and buying guns to stop it, even if stats show crime is down. Or, Obama has the military ‘training’ in Texas and is going to take control of Texans, so Texas’ Governor grandstands and sends out his own Texas guard.

Real facts are no longer needed…in anything. Actually I worry reality is no longer needed, or wanted.

44 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 6:23:37am

re: #41 makeitstop

An actual post on Facebook this morning:

Oy.

I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue.

45 makeitstop  May 5, 2015 6:29:17am

re: #43 ObserverArt

If ISIS is recruiting worldwide, and it has been reported there have been Americans that have joined up, it is not out of the realm of reality to think there are some people that could be called ISIS and will claim ISIS is active here.

With a tweet, a phone call or an email to American media they can claim all they want, just as you say. And everyone will panic, just as they want.

Ahhh…the World Wide Web…spreading World Wide Panic.

It is not unlike the people freaked out about crime in America and running out and buying guns to stop it, even if stats show crime is down. Or, Obama has the military ‘training’ in Texas and is going to take control of Texans, so Texas’ Governor grandstands and sends out his own Texas guard.

Real facts are no longer needed…in anything. Actually I worry reality is no longer needed, or wanted.

In addition - both are dead.

The tip of the ISIS spear in America (heh!) has been decimated! What are the nutjobs so scared of?

(Rhetorical question.)

46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 5, 2015 6:29:27am

re: #41 makeitstop

An actual post on Facebook this morning:

Oy.

Perfect. And when Palin/Carson lose 27/73%, obviously because they weren’t “conservative enough”, who will they nominate in 2020?

47 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 6:30:33am

re: #46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Perfect. And when Palin/Carson lose 27/73%, obviously because they weren’t “conservative enough”, who will they nominate in 2020?

Cthulhu/Zod. Because when you care to be evil, accept no substitutes.

48 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 6:31:02am

re: #35 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Goat News has an “ace reporter”? I have to wonder about this woman’s career choices to hook up with CCJ’s sorry enterprise.

/

Pronounced “Shannon Nuts” more than likely.

49 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 6:31:57am
50 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 5, 2015 6:33:12am

re: #47 lawhawk

Cthulhu/Zod. Because when you care to be evil, accept no substitutes.

Too merciful. If even Palin was in the White House, I wouldn’t want to be eaten last.

51 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 6:35:49am
52 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 6:38:24am
53 Eventual Carrion  May 5, 2015 6:39:28am

re: #23 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If they want to take credit for such an incompetent, pathetic excuse for an attack, good! It’ll just make them look like the jackholes they are. The pants-pissers will of course be in an uproar, but what else is new?

That was my thought. If this is the kind of execution that their operatives demonstrate, we don’t have a hell of a lot to fear from them other than some random mayhem.

54 Targetpractice  May 5, 2015 6:44:34am

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

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55 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 6:46:04am

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

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56 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 6:48:34am

re: #41 makeitstop

An actual post on Facebook this morning:

Oy.

I saw an ad for Ben C as the “anti-Obama”, which is how he is going to be portrayed to the RWNJ public.

57 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 6:50:41am

re: #55 Lord Of The Pies

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I have no idea, I’m not too into comic heroes, but it sure does read like DC is Republican/Conservative and Marvel is Democratic/Liberal.

How’d I do?

There may already be an answer out there some Lizard knows.

58 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 5, 2015 6:54:43am

re: #57 ObserverArt

I have no idea, I’m not too into comic heroes, but it sure does read like DC is Republican/Conservative and Marvel is Democratic/Liberal.

How’d I do?

There may already be an answer out there some Lizard knows.

Stan Lee of Marvel is a Democrat, AFAIK. I’m not sure who runs the show over at DC.

I’d categorize them as DC = timid and disorganized and Marvel = bold and organized. I reckon Stan Lee is the general over at Marvel, telling his troops where to go and what to do. DC has no such person.

59 Timothy Watson  May 5, 2015 6:59:13am

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My comment over there earlier today:

I guess they’re also going to ignore the amazing success of Hayley Atwell and her character, Peggy Carter, who managed to go from essentially an extra in the Captain America comics (she didn’t appear until 25 years into the comic’s run) to fourth billed in the Captain America movie to her own television series?

60 Lidane  May 5, 2015 7:00:08am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I saw an ad for Ben C as the “anti-Obama”, which is how he is going to be portrayed to the RWNJ public.

I am amused by the RWNJs who think Carson has a chance.

After all the bullshit the GOP have kicked up since 2008 about Obama being inexperienced what makes anyone think that Ben Carson is going to become POTUS? The GOP are not going to nominate a man who’s never even run for his local school board to the highest office in the land.

61 Lidane  May 5, 2015 7:04:49am

re: #58 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’d categorize them as DC = timid and disorganized and Marvel = bold and organized. I reckon Stan Lee is the general over at Marvel, telling his troops where to go and what to do. DC has no such person.

When it comes to movies, Marvel are the guys who planned out a connected universe then started making films about it. They’ve also kept their characters largely intact except for when they switch them to an Ultimate version for the sake of the story.

DC are the guys who’ve made a bunch of films and are now trying to tack a connected universe on to them. They also change their characters with each film, so there’s no real consistency to them.

62 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 5, 2015 7:11:23am

re: #61 Lidane

When it comes to movies, Marvel are the guys who planned out a connected universe then started making films about it. They’ve also kept their characters largely intact except for when they switch them to an Ultimate version for the sake of the story.

DC are the guys who’ve made a bunch of films and are now trying to tack a connected universe on to them. They also change their characters with each film, so there’s no real consistency to them.

QFT. But DC has been recycling Superman and Batman over and over. Their other attempts — Supergirl, Catwoman, Green Lantern, Green Hornet — were all flops because of poor scripts, mediocre acting, and directors who had no apparent clue what they were dealing with.

Seth Rogen as an action hero? Give me a break!

63 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 7:11:37am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I saw an ad for Ben C as the “anti-Obama”, which is how he is going to be portrayed to the RWNJ public.

So what does it mean to be the “anti-Obama”?

Hurr hurr…uh…it means uh…that he loves America and the Constitution!!!11

64 darthstar  May 5, 2015 7:12:53am
65 Eventual Carrion  May 5, 2015 7:12:54am

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

DEVIL WORSHIPPING HAIR!!!

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Flock of Seagulls will be executed at dawn.

66 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:13:58am

I’d be laughing at Carson if he was making the statements he is and running for the state legislature. That he’s making them and running for president. Oy.

67 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 7:14:10am

re: #60 Lidane

I am amused by the RWNJs who think Carson has a chance.

After all the bullshit the GOP have kicked up since 2008 about Obama being inexperienced what makes anyone think that Ben Carson is going to become POTUS? The GOP are not going to nominate a man who’s never even run for his local school board to the highest office in the land.

Carson thinks that government should run like a business.

Except that Carson has no actual business experience. He’s a surgeon.

Businesses don’t get to raise taxes, operate a military (Blackwater, Halliburton, and Pinkerton being the exceptions, not the rule), have nuclear weapons, etc.

Government operates for the greater good. It isn’t the profit motive that keeps government functioning.

Carson’s only redeeming feature to the GOP is that he’s an outsider. And that’s it.

And it reflects in the fact that he barely rates 5 points in GOP nomination polling. Though, that’s better than business wiz Carly Fiorina (whose claim to fame for business expertise was nearly driving HP off a fiscal cliff). Or Bobby Jindal (who’s doing the same to Louisiana).

68 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 7:14:27am

re: #64 darthstar

As in, Don’t Lump Us In With That Screeching Nutbag Pam Geller.

69 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 7:14:37am

Well the Harpy is starting to get what she wanted, even though she will deny it.

Texas Muslim ambushed at mosque following shooting at ‘draw Muhammad’ contest

According to KXAS, two men attacked the victim who was leaving the Islamic Association of North Texas mosque at around 10:15 p.m.

70 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:14:44am

re: #64 darthstar

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Thoret went on to say the magazine’s question was one of “criticizing all kinds of religion,” not solely Islam. Biard agreed.
Exactly.

71 darthstar  May 5, 2015 7:15:08am

re: #65 Eventual Carrion

Flock of Seagulls will be executed at dawn.

But they wrote a song for Iran
…

72 scottslemmons  May 5, 2015 7:16:08am

re: #58 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

DC and Warner’s aren’t very fond of superheroes, and they definitely don’t understand the concept. Yeah, it’s their business, but their comics and movies come across as kinda schizophrenic — they think superheroes are Dumb Funny Books for Babies, and they don’t want to write for Dumb Babies, so they try to push a lot of EXTREME storylines to show that they’re Real Adults Who Write For Real Adults — and they come across as immature and fumbling, because chasing the EXTREME is something you do when you’re 13.

At the same time, they *are* incredibly timid. They’re terrified of stepping out of their comfort zones — and most of their execs and preferred creators matured in the testosterone haze of 1990s Image Comics, which is why most of their characters have a Liefeldian air about them.

But Marvel has had a lot of success with updating their comics for new audiences — the female Thor and Muslim Ms. Marvel have been huge sales successes — and DC is struggling to tear themselves out of their rut.

73 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 7:16:33am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY, “WELFARE QUEENS” EDITION==>
Dumbass maybe you don’t realize people working 70 hours on 3 minimum wage jerbs are the ones RECEIVING the welfare==>

74 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:16:41am

re: #67 lawhawk

Carson thinks that government should run like a business.

Except that Carson has no actual business experience. He’s a surgeon.

Businesses don’t get to raise taxes, operate a military (Blackwater, Halliburton, and Pinkerton being the exceptions, not the rule), have nuclear weapons, etc.

Government operates for the greater good. It isn’t the profit motive that keeps government functioning.

Carson’s only redeeming feature to the GOP is that he’s an outsider. And that’s it.

And it reflects in the fact that he barely rates 5 points in GOP nomination polling. Though, that’s better than business wiz Carly Fiorina (whose claim to fame for business expertise was nearly driving HP off a fiscal cliff). Or Bobby Jindal (who’s doing the same to Louisiana).

The run a government like a business may be the most stupid trope in a long run of stupid right wing tropes. A business’s first goal is to make profits. A government”s first goal is serving its people. WhY RWNJs from Carson to Romney and so many more don’t get that I’ll never know.

75 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:17:58am

re: #73 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY, “WELFARE QUEENS” EDITION==>
Dumbass maybe you don’t realize people working 70 hours on 3 minimum wage jerbs are the ones RECEIVING the welfare==>

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Yeah fucking conservative idiots. They have this pathetic image of people on welfare being lazy when in reality the average welfare recipient works much harder than your average conservative Twitter whiny asshole.

76 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 7:18:14am

The Wash Post’s editorial page highlights the candidacies of Carson and Fiorina, notes some of their questionable histories but then says this

For all that, both candidates are capable people who have impressed on the pre-declaration stump.

Smh

77 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 7:19:54am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

The run a government like a business may be the most stupid trope in a long run of stupid right wing tropes. A business’s first goal is to make profits. A government”s first goal is serving its people. WhY RWNJs from Carson to Romney and so many more don’t get that I’ll never know.

If we ran our government like a business we would sell off our non-performing assets, starting with Mississippi…

78 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 7:20:49am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

The run a government like a business may be the most stupid trope in a long run of stupid right wing tropes. A business’s first goal is to make profits. A government”s first goal is serving its people. WhY RWNJs from Carson to Romney and so many more don’t get that I’ll never know.

Someone who runs the government like a business would have no problem outsourcing the military to Chinese soldiers. WHAT COULD GO WRONG????

79 Targetpractice  May 5, 2015 7:22:00am

re: #61 Lidane

When it comes to movies, Marvel are the guys who planned out a connected universe then started making films about it. They’ve also kept their characters largely intact except for when they switch them to an Ultimate version for the sake of the story.

DC are the guys who’ve made a bunch of films and are now trying to tack a connected universe on to them. They also change their characters with each film, so there’s no real consistency to them.

Thing is, the Marvel MCU is really sort of a gamble that paid off big. If Marvel hadn’t sold off its most lucrative franchises (Spider-Man & X-Men) back in the 90s, it’s doubtful that Iron Man would have been their first choice for a feature film, and probably not with a big name actor like Robert Downey Jr in the role. So they took a character that nobody really saw as warranting his own film, cast an actor who’s been flirting with disaster for years, and it worked beautifully. Then, to sort of hedge their bets, they brought in Sam Jackson under cover of secrecy (that didn’t last long) to show up as Nick Fury for the post-credits stinger that was tacked on as a potential sequel hook.

But when that film did so well, they decided to see how far they could stretch it. First with The Incredible Hulk, which did well but not beautifully. Then IM2, which most folks would agree was basically a long trailer for The Avengers. At that point, the ball was rolling and they went with it. Thor and Captain America to round out the cast, then they bet the house on The Avengers to be the big film that everybody wanted to see…and it was.

Problem is, now that the bet has paid off and keeps paying off, Marvel’s getting complacent. I won’t say Age of Ultron is bad, because it’s not. But I’m beginning to see the beginning of the MCU following the success of the comic titles, namely beginning to become formulaic and becoming too focused on “You have to have seen these films to fully understand what’s going on” that has made getting into the comics virtually impossible for anyone who doesn’t have the time or money to dig through decades of old titles. Add atop that the reality that Spider-Man and the X-Men, who are still Sony and Fox’s properties respectively, being totally off-limits despite some of the biggest Marvel storylines revolving around them, and it’s easy to see that the MCU is one bomb away from stalling out.

80 Snarknado!  May 5, 2015 7:22:35am

re: #34 RPCulture

(Late) greetings, hatchling!

Where are the doughnuts?

81 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:23:29am

re: #76 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The Wash Post’s editorial page highlights the candidacies of Carson and Fiorina, notes some of their questionable histories but then says this

Smh

I guess the WaPo missed where Carson continues to compare the US to Nazi Germany and shows a great misunderstanding of how government actually works. But yeah he’s impressive alright. I wouldn’t want a man like Ben Carson on a town council given how idiotic he is. Same thing with Carly Fiorina. Both are proof why “career politicians” are sometimes better than novices who just see the government as a game.

82 Alyosha  May 5, 2015 7:24:07am

I managed to bite my tongue at lunch the other day as two co-workers utterly unaware of their own white, Christian privilege ‘discoursed’ on the Muslim issue.

Red flag the first: they did not refer to Muslims as such. They instead called them ‘those people’. As if not saying the word supported their opening and self-reassuring statement to one another that ‘I’m not a racist…’
Red flag the second: the forgoing sentence fragment was immediately followed by the word ‘but’.
Red flag the third: the phrase ‘we are being overrun’ was used. Again, who ‘we’ refers to was not mentioned as I can only assume that for the consumption of those present (white or otherwise raised Christian), it was merely shorthand.

I did not challenge them as to how exactly a Muslim population of perhaps a half-million, according to 2013 census results, threatens to overrun the remaining 22-odd million with our antipodean form of ‘creeping sharia’. I can only suppose that they lumped into their fearful calculations those other hordes of brownish outlanders who now call themselves citizens, all the while practicing dark heathen rituals and refusing to take part in such conspicuous and patriotic acts like Easter and Christmas.

Gasp! Dontcha just hate it when people reveal their inner bigot and all those pleasant interactions you’ve had with them up until that point turn to shit?
Oh well.

83 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 5, 2015 7:24:33am

re: #72 scottslemmons

DC and Warner’s aren’t very fond of superheroes, and they definitely don’t understand the concept. Yeah, it’s their business, but their comics and movies come across as kinda schizophrenic — they think superheroes are Dumb Funny Books for Babies, and they don’t want to write for Dumb Babies, so they try to push a lot of EXTREME storylines to show that they’re Real Adults Who Write For Real Adults — and they come across as immature and fumbling, because chasing the EXTREME is something you do when you’re 13.

At the same time, they *are* incredibly timid. They’re terrified of stepping out of their comfort zones — and most of their execs and preferred creators matured in the testosterone haze of 1990s Image Comics, which is why most of their characters have a Liefeldian air about them.

But Marvel has had a lot of success with updating their comics for new audiences — the female Thor and Muslim Ms. Marvel have been huge sales successes — and DC is struggling to tear themselves out of their rut.

DC has done a Crisis reboot twice, then The New 52, and now something else called Convergence, all in the last decade or so. They kill off characters, then revive them for no apparent reason. There’s no sense of continuity. When I was reading comics, Hal Jordan was GL for a decade or more. Sure, maybe it got kind of boring after a while, but now there are so many different GLs, Red Lanterns, Black Lanterns, Yellows, etc., that even a newcomer gets lost.

DC needs to trim their pantheon and keep it that way for a few years, instead of reinventing the wheel every four years or so.

84 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 5, 2015 7:24:53am

re: #65 Eventual Carrion

Flock of Seagulls will be executed at dawn.

is that a bad thing?

85 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 7:25:40am

re: #72 scottslemmons

Think a lot of Marvel’s success has to do with how Jon Faverau and Kevin Feige set up Iron Man as the initial breakout, and then began introducing SHIELD and the other characters as easter eggs and spots. They showed the greater interconnected cinematic universe, as Capt America showed the legacy and history of interconnectedness (SHIELD, Stark family, Hydra, etc.) and how events continue to play out.

But if you want gonzo crazy, consider that Marvel considers the events of the following movies to have occurred all within the same period of time:

The Avengers Prelude: Fury’s Big Week
Iron Man 2
The Incredible Hulk
Marvel One-Shot: A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor’s Hammer
Thor
Iron Man 3 Prelude (prologue)
Marvel One-Shot: The Consultant
Thor: The Dark World Prelude (prologue)
Captain America: The First Avenger (prologue & epilogue)

86 Timothy Watson  May 5, 2015 7:26:29am

re: #79 Targetpractice

Add atop that the reality that Spider-Man and the X-Men, who are still Sony and Fox’s properties respectively, being totally off-limits despite some of the biggest Marvel storylines revolving around them, and it’s easy to see that the MCU is one bomb away from stalling out.

Marvel/Disney cut a deal with Sony to use Spider-Man in next Captain America film.

87 Kryptik  May 5, 2015 7:26:37am

re: #76 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

WaPo’s editorial page hasn’t pretended it wasn’t in the tank for the GOP for almost a full decade at this point.

re: #79 Targetpractice

The thing about Iron Man as well is that the movie came out in the wake of Civil War, which was a rather disastrous arc for Tony Stark’s support (and for Marvel as well). It’s probably not exaggeration to say that the movie’s success saved Iron Man as a character.

88 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 7:26:38am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

The run a government like a business may be the most stupid trope in a long run of stupid right wing tropes. A business’s first goal is to make profits. A government”s first goal is serving its people. WhY RWNJs from Carson to Romney and so many more don’t get that I’ll never know.

Probably due to the constant mention of “The Budget Deficit™.”

And then that figures into the scare tactics like “your grandkids will be paying for this forever…long after you are gone.”

What the Democrats need to do is run off all that, and use facts to show it is always the Republicans that run the deficits up and create big costs for more deficits. So if you want to think of your grandkids, then vote Democrats. And offer the side benefit you might not have to worry about your grandkids going to another war.

89 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 7:26:47am

re: #73 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY, “WELFARE QUEENS” EDITION==>
Dumbass maybe you don’t realize people working 70 hours on 3 minimum wage jerbs are the ones RECEIVING the welfare==>

How does this hard working Patriot have the time to tweet about how the welfares are mooching off him and his three jobs where he’s working hard?

90 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 7:27:28am

re: #81 HappyWarrior

I guess the WaPo missed where Carson continues to compare the US to Nazi Germany and shows a great misunderstanding of how government actually works. But yeah he’s impressive alright. I wouldn’t want a man like Ben Carson on a town council given how idiotic he is. Same thing with Carly Fiorina. Both are proof why “career politicians” are sometimes better than novices who just see the government as a game.

The GOP is big on symbolism, and it is all about what these people stand for: Dr C as the Anti Obama and Carly C as the Anti Hillary.

91 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:28:19am

re: #88 ObserverArt

Probably due to the constant mention of “The Budget DeficitTM.”

And then that figures into the scare tactics like “your grandkids will be paying for this forever…long after you are gone.”

What the Democrats need to do is run off all that, and use facts to show it is always the Republicans that run the deficits up and create big costs for more deficits. So if you want to think of your grandkids, then vote Democrats. And offer the side benefit you might not have to worry about your grandkids going to another war.

Yeah I really wish the Democrats would remind the voters about the Bush administration and the Congresses under Bush that were very cavalier about the deficit. Really if you’re concerned about the deficit. For fuck sake, don’t vote for the Republican party just because they say these words about fixing the deficit. They’ve done nothing to fix it.

92 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 7:28:28am

re: #82 Alyosha

We’re being over-run!!!!11

Do you actually know any Muslims?

Uh, well, no, but um, THARE STELTH MUSLIMS!!!!

93 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:29:07am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The GOP is big on symbolism: it is what these people stand for: Dr C as the Anti Obama and Carly C as the Anti Hillary.

Well they would be right in that way but not in the way they hope, Obama and Clinton are much more astute than Carson and Fiorina ever will be and actually have an idea about how to run a country.

94 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:30:21am

re: #92 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

We’re being over-run!!!!11

Do you actually know any Muslims?

Uh, well, no, but um, THARE STELTH MUSLIMS!!!!

It’s true. The paranoia about Islam and Muslims in my observations often comes from people who come from areas where Muslims are but a tiny fraction of the population. Of course anyone remotely Middle Eastern looking to them is a Muslim. I’m sure if Christ came back, some of them would think he’s a Muslim.

95 Targetpractice  May 5, 2015 7:30:28am

re: #86 Timothy Watson

Marvel/Disney cut a deal with Sony to use Spider-Man in next Captain America film.

Yeah, but Sony still owns the character, still has creative control, and can still make movies outside of Marvel’s playpen. Best way to think of it is that Sony and Marvel negotiated so that Spidey spends weekends and holidays with Marvel.

96 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 7:30:49am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

It really takes no talent to run a business except understanding how you make a profit—and enough greed to succeed in doing it.

I’ve seen a hell of a lot of people who can barely form a complete sentence making plenty of money around here running local businesses. And they care nothing for your “rights” or “regulations” as a consumer.

97 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 7:31:36am

re: #89 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

How does this hard working Patriot have the time to tweet about how the welfares are mooching off him and his three jobs where he’s working hard?

HURR HURR I AM RUNNING MY VERY OWN CAKE BAKERY & PIZZERIA THAT I BUILT ALL BY MY SELF WORKING 70 HR/S WEEK TO BUILD MY OWN ROADS & ELECTRICITIES & U LIBTARDS WANT TO PUT ME OUT OF BUSINESS WITH UR WELFARES & REGULATIONS & MINIMUM WAGE LAWS & LAWS THAT SAY I CAN’T NOT SELL TO TEH GHEY!!!!!!!1!!

98 Lidane  May 5, 2015 7:31:51am

re: #86 Timothy Watson

Marvel/Disney cut a deal with Sony to use Spider-Man in next Captain America film.

Marvel is also going to have a much stronger hand in the next Spider-Man standalone film.

I just want to know who I have to send a fruit basket to so we don’t get saddled with ANOTHER origin story. Five films about Peter’s angst over being a nerd and and a loser are enough.

99 Alyosha  May 5, 2015 7:31:55am

re: #92 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

We’re being over-run!!!!11

Do you actually know any Muslims?

Uh, well, no, but um, THARE STELTH MUSLIMS!!!!

The exchange actually contained references to Muslims they knew who they actually admitted were perfectly decent citizens and yet these paragons were immediately dismissed as outliers. Inconvenient to their insistence on the Muslim threat and yet also serving as a sorry fig leaf for their claims of anti-bigotry.

It was a study in prejudice.

100 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:32:42am

re: #96 Justanotherhuman

It really takes no talent to run a business except understanding how you make a profit—and enough greed to succeed in doing it.

I’ve seen a hell of a lot of people who can barely form a complete sentence making plenty of money around here running local businesses. And they care nothing for your “rights” or “regulations” as a consumer.

Well you know the other thing is that Carly Fiorina isn’t a particularly good businesswoman. Just like Donald Trump isn’t a particularly good businessman. And as for the last businessman they ran, it seemed to me that Mitt was taking more jobs than creating them at Bain.

101 Lidane  May 5, 2015 7:33:22am

re: #92 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

We’re being over-run!!!!11

Do you actually know any Muslims?

Uh, well, no, but um, THARE STELTH MUSLIMS!!!!

Or, as Luther the Anger Translator put it:

“SHARIA LAW IS COMING TO CLEVELAND! RUN FOR THE DAMN HILLS!”

102 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:33:32am

I mean being a businessman is admirable but I am sorry but it doesn’t make you more qualified to run a government. Running a country, state, or whatever is totally different than running a business.

103 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 7:34:10am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Well you know the other thing is that Carly Fiorina isn’t a particularly good businesswoman. Just like Donald Trump isn’t a particularly good businessman. And as for the last businessman they ran, it seemed to me that Mitt was taking more jobs than creating them at Bain.

Yeahbutt…there sure were no deficits!

104 Targetpractice  May 5, 2015 7:34:34am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Well you know the other thing is that Carly Fiorina isn’t a particularly good businesswoman. Just like Donald Trump isn’t a particularly good businessman. And as for the last businessman they ran, it seemed to me that Mitt was taking more jobs than creating them at Bain.

Bain is a chop shop, it doesn’t exist to save businesses and make them successful, it exists to strip failing businesses for parts.

105 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:35:34am

re: #104 Targetpractice

Bain is a chop shop, it doesn’t exist to save businesses and make them successful, it exists to strip failing businesses for parts.

Exactly. Mitt was the total opposite of a job creator at Bain.

106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 5, 2015 7:37:37am

re: #98 Lidane

Marvel is also going to have a much stronger hand in the next Spider-Man standalone film.

I just want to know who I have to send a fruit basket to so we don’t get saddled with ANOTHER origin story. Five films about Peter’s angst over being a nerd and and a loser are enough.

It might just be possible to script a film that has Spidey already a few years into the superhero biz, and it could still be interesting.

Hollywood movie studios and risk mix like oil and water. Sadly, to do a decent superhero movie requires a big budget, so indie producers aren’t able to shoot a riskier film.

107 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:37:38am

I mean if we’re really concerned about the deficit. How about we not vote for the party that refuses to even consider tax increases on the wealthiest 1% nor considers cuts to the biggest part of the budget. That’s like saying “Yeah I want to lose weight but there’s no way I’m cutting back on snacks and I want to eat more steaks.” The GOP is about fiscally conservative as a kid at Spring Break at college with no parental supervision.

108 Alyosha  May 5, 2015 7:39:22am

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Mitt was the total opposite of a job creator at Bain.

I wonder if Romney considered taking an unpaid internship in the White House and maybe just worked his way up?

/

109 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 7:40:15am

re: #81 HappyWarrior

I guess the WaPo missed where Carson continues to compare the US to Nazi Germany and shows a great misunderstanding of how government actually works. But yeah he’s impressive alright. I wouldn’t want a man like Ben Carson on a town council given how idiotic he is. Same thing with Carly Fiorina. Both are proof why “career politicians” are sometimes better than novices who just see the government as a game.

The Post’s Dana Milbank does mention these nutty and divisive sayings, gently mocking Carson for complaining about Obama’s supposed “divisiveness”.

110 Targetpractice  May 5, 2015 7:40:30am

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It might just be possible to script a film that has Spidey already a few years into the superhero biz, and it could still be interesting.

Hollywood movie studios and risk mix like oil and water. Sadly, to do a decent superhero movie requires a big budget, so indie producers aren’t able to shoot a riskier film.

Which, as a result, is why the MCU is starting to get stale. When every director Marvel brings on has to follow the path of least resistance, for fear that a single bomb could derail the gravy train, you’re going to start to get cookie-cutter films. I think the fans are really only willing to follow things through to Infinity War. After that, Marvel will have to come up with something new or its going to get seriously savaged by the fans.

111 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:40:45am

re: #108 Alyosha

I wonder if Romney considered taking an unpaid internship in the White House and maybe just worked his way up?

/

Hahaha nah like everything else in Mitt’s life, he feels entitled to it. Seriously I never got more of a vibe of entitlement from any candidate more than I have Mitt. He and Ann really thought we the American people needed them to save us or some crap like that.

112 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 7:42:28am

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Hahaha nah like everything else in Mitt’s life, he feels entitled to it. Seriously I never got more of a vibe of entitlement from any candidate more than I have Mitt. He and Ann really thought we the American people needed them to save us or some crap like that.

He felt that he had to step in and provide a viable candidate for the GOP, which, in a sense he was.

113 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 7:42:52am

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Hahaha nah like everything else in Mitt’s life, he feels entitled to it. Seriously I never got more of a vibe of entitlement from any candidate more than I have Mitt. He and Ann really thought we the American people needed them to save us or some crap like that.

Hell of a power couple there. /

And people cry about the Clintons.

114 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 7:42:54am

Going to a Mother’s Day lunch at school. Need to pick up some flowers for the teachers.

115 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:43:03am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He felt that he had to step in and provide a viable candidate for the GOP, which, in a sense he was.

Yeah but I mean in the general. The guy oozed “Give this to me America, I deserve this.”

116 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:43:20am

re: #113 ObserverArt

Hell of a power couple there. /

And people cry about the Clintons.

Yeah yikes.

117 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 7:45:00am

re: #109 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

“First we must heal, and healing requires a leader with calm, unwavering resolve — someone more concerned about the next generation than the next election.”

washingtonpost.com

Obama’s calm. Carson, not so much.

118 Dr Lizardo  May 5, 2015 7:45:02am

The problem I can see with DC is that after Nolan’s Batman trilogy, and after Marvel having a string of hits, DC is frantically playing catch-up. I don’t have a lot of confidence in their efforts, to be honest.

119 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 7:45:17am

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Yeah but I mean in the general. The guy oozed “Give this to me America, I deserve this.”

He totally failed to convince anyone why he was the better candidate. He just assumed that he was and expected us to do the same.

120 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:46:20am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He totally failed to convince anyone why he was the better candidate. He just assumed that he was and expected us to do the same.

As I said, a sense of entitlement.

121 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 7:46:37am

re: #104 Targetpractice

Bain is a chop shop, it doesn’t exist to save businesses and make them successful, it exists to strip failing businesses for parts.

Did Bain do anything with the pieces? Or just buy the pieces at a reduced cost?

122 Alyosha  May 5, 2015 7:46:45am

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Yeah but I mean in the general. The guy oozed “Give this to me America, I deserve this.”

Part of it has to be that he bought into the whole unskewed polls biz and really felt as though Obama had totally mismanaged the economy and people by-and-large bought into the economic pessimism peddled by FOX. He struck me as a man within the fishbowl who ought to have known better where glass ended and reality began.

123 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:46:56am

re: #117 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

washingtonpost.com

Obama’s calm. Carson, not so much.

Yeah there’s nothing calm about a man who talks like Carson. The WaPo can try to sugarcoat him all they want but Carson is a fanatic.

124 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 5, 2015 7:49:48am

re: #110 Targetpractice

Which, as a result, is why the MCU is starting to get stale. When every director Marvel brings on has to follow the path of least resistance, for fear that a single bomb could derail the gravy train, you’re going to start to get cookie-cutter films. I think the fans are really only willing to follow things through to Infinity War. After that, Marvel will have to come up with something new or its going to get seriously savaged by the fans.

DC and Marvel have a ton of characters that could be turned into salable movie premises, given the right script and freedom. Shit, Wonder Woman’s been kicked around as a movie premise for, what?, 30 years? Their corporate masters, though, don’t know comics and don’t realize what a cash cow they are sitting on, if they’d only let the creativity departments be creative.

For all we know, the current superhero movie craze may play out in a few years, if only because the public will just get tired of them.

My computer is acting wonky, so I’m gonna shut it down and switch to mobile for a spell.

125 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 7:49:53am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He totally failed to convince anyone why he was the better candidate. He just assumed that he was and expected us to do the same.

Is that not a definition of arrogance?

126 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 7:50:35am

re: #125 ObserverArt

Is that not a definition of arrogance?

with equal parts of cluelessness and self-delusion, yes

127 Targetpractice  May 5, 2015 7:51:09am

re: #121 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Did Bain do anything with the pieces? Or just buy the pieces at a reduced cost?

Sold them off to other companies. They’d strip equipment out of a failing manufacturer and sell it off, they’d sell off failing divisions to rival companies, and then they’d start raiding the pension funds and any other money they could get their hands on in the company’s coffers. Then they’d further enrich their investors by buying up a bunch of new equipment or new workers using the company’s credit, saddling it with a whole shitload of new debt that it would never afford to pay off in order to do work that its old workers couldn’t handle.

If, after all that, it managed to survive, then Willard put it in his personal “win” column. If it failed, Bain shrugged its shoulders and moved on like a plague of locusts.

128 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:51:14am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

with equal parts of cluelessness and self-delusion, yes

True, he was woefully out of touch too as well as being arrogant.

129 Lidane  May 5, 2015 7:51:29am

re: #110 Targetpractice

Which, as a result, is why the MCU is starting to get stale. When every director Marvel brings on has to follow the path of least resistance, for fear that a single bomb could derail the gravy train, you’re going to start to get cookie-cutter films. I think the fans are really only willing to follow things through to Infinity War. After that, Marvel will have to come up with something new or its going to get seriously savaged by the fans.

Even then, I sincerely hope Marvel learns from Guardians of the Galaxy and Daredevil. With Guardians, you didn’t have to watch all of the other films to understand it. All most people really knew was that Andy from Parks & Rec was the lead, Bradley Cooper was a talking raccoon with a gun, and Vin Diesel was a talking tree. Guardians had to stand on its own. It couldn’t coast on The Avengers.

With Daredevil, Marvel showed they could do gritty, mature drama with great action and complex characters but still keep the essence of who these people are.

I hope they stick with both of these things moving forward. I have a lot of hope for it, anyway. They’ve built something remarkable. I’d hate to see them piss it away.

130 Lidane  May 5, 2015 7:52:35am

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

The problem I can see with DC is that after Nolan’s Batman trilogy, and after Marvel having a string of hits, DC is frantically playing catch-up. I don’t have a lot of confidence in their efforts, to be honest.

The horrific photos of the Suicide Squad and Joker and that shitty trailer for the Batman/Superman film tell me DC is desperate.

I’ll wait until Netflix for all those films, if I watch them at all.

131 Dr Lizardo  May 5, 2015 7:53:12am

re: #130 Lidane

The horrific photos of the Suicide Squad and Joker and that shitty trailer for the Batman/Superman film tell me DC is desperate.

I’ll wait until Netflix for all those films, if I watch them at all.

Yep………I quite agree.

132 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 7:53:23am

re: #127 Targetpractice

Sold them off to other companies. They’d strip equipment out of a failing manufacturer and sell it off, they’d sell off failing divisions to rival companies, and then they’d start raiding the pension funds and any other money they could get their hands on in the company’s coffers. Then they’d further enrich their investors by buying up a bunch of new equipment or new workers using the company’s credit, saddling it with a whole shitload of new debt that it would never afford to pay off in order to do work that its old workers couldn’t handle.

If, after all that, it managed to survive, then Willard put it in his personal “win” column. If it failed, Bain shrugged its shoulders and moved on like a plague of locusts.

And they regard employees as just another “business expense” that has to be minimized.

133 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 7:54:12am

re: #23 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If they want to take credit for such an incompetent, pathetic excuse for an attack, good! It’ll just make them look like the jackholes they are. The pants-pissers will of course be in an uproar, but what else is new?

They claim it since it plays well for a number of reasons:
1) To their local followers, who can’t follow-up on the facts they can say, “See! We are attacking the United States in their home ground.”

2) It might cause further anti-Islam moves by the US government, media, etc. as it the wont of the RWNJ factions. Possibly to the point of more anti-Islam violence occurring in the US. ISIS views this as good as it helps them recruit followers and is something further to point out as the US being anti-Islam and thus deserving of jihad.

The extremists live off each other since both fit the stereotypes they want the other side to have and are vocal enough to easily appear to be the majority voice of the other religion.

134 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 7:54:28am

re: #132 Lord Of The Pies

And they regard employees as just another “business expense” that has to be minimized.

The people who talk the most about the “dignity of labor” and the “value of hard work” are the first ones to treat people like used toner cartridges.

135 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 7:56:00am
136 Nyet  May 5, 2015 7:56:26am

re: #64 darthstar

Yep. Anyone who would compare the two is a defective tool.

137 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 7:56:38am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The people who talk the most about the “dignity of labor” and the “value of hard work” are the first ones to treat people like used toner cartridges.

They also the first ones to mock low-wage workers as being essentially “worthless” and easily replaced with kiosks.
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138 Targetpractice  May 5, 2015 7:57:19am

re: #129 Lidane

Even then, I sincerely hope Marvel learns from Guardians of the Galaxy and Daredevil. With Guardians, you didn’t have to watch all of the other films to understand it. All most people really knew was that Andy from Parks & Rec was the lead, Bradley Cooper was a talking raccoon with a gun, and Vin Diesel was a talking tree. Guardians had to stand on its own. It couldn’t coast on The Avengers.

With Daredevil, Marvel showed they could do gritty, mature drama with great action and complex characters but still keep the essence of who these people are.

I hope they stick with both of these things moving forward. I have a lot of hope for it, anyway. They’ve built something remarkable. I’d hate to see them piss it away.

I’d throw in Agents of SHIELD, which not only brought back one of the most beloved characters of the film franchise, but also managed to make Marvel work on TV again. Problem is that the TV series is yoked to the success of the Avengers storyline, as we saw with the first season sorta meandering until after Winter Soldier.

And Marvel has already said they want to make Daredevil the flagship for another hero ensemble, while Guardians 2 is now wedded by its success to Infinity War and so will not be able to do its own thing without hurting the chances of that film. So yeah, Marvel is having success outside of The Avengers, it’s just that Marvel sees the big ensemble pieces as their major money makers. They’ll take one-off risks, but only if they can fail on their own, and if they succeed then they become yet another part of the amorphous mass that their flagship has become.

139 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 7:57:25am

re: #46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Perfect. And when Palin/Carson lose 27/73%, obviously because they weren’t “conservative enough”, who will they nominate in 2020?

Zombie Reagan.
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140 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 7:59:19am

re: #139 Feline Fearless Leader

Zombie Reagan.
/

I don’t know. Zombie Reagan said he’d consider a tax increase if it got him more brains. They may view him as too compromising since he’ll do anything for brains.

141 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 8:00:11am

re: #132 Lord Of The Pies

And they regard employees as just another “business expense” that has to be minimized.

No different from how Mitt saw many US citizens.

Hence the 47% comment.

142 darthstar  May 5, 2015 8:00:44am

re: #136 Nyet

Yep. Anyone who would compare the two is a defective tool.

Say good morning to your national media because you know it’s coming.

143 Alyosha  May 5, 2015 8:01:23am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

I don’t know. Zombie Reagan said he’d consider a tax increase if it got him more brains. They may view him as too compromising since he’ll do anything for brains.

I could make a terrible Alzheimer’s joke right now about Zombie Reagan and brains but instead I’ll hit the hay.

Night, Lizards.

144 Nyet  May 5, 2015 8:01:41am

re: #142 darthstar

They can screech all they want.

145 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 8:03:11am

re: #72 scottslemmons

DC and Warner’s aren’t very fond of superheroes, and they definitely don’t understand the concept. Yeah, it’s their business, but their comics and movies come across as kinda schizophrenic — they think superheroes are Dumb Funny Books for Babies, and they don’t want to write for Dumb Babies, so they try to push a lot of EXTREME storylines to show that they’re Real Adults Who Write For Real Adults — and they come across as immature and fumbling, because chasing the EXTREME is something you do when you’re 13.

At the same time, they *are* incredibly timid. They’re terrified of stepping out of their comfort zones — and most of their execs and preferred creators matured in the testosterone haze of 1990s Image Comics, which is why most of their characters have a Liefeldian air about them.

But Marvel has had a lot of success with updating their comics for new audiences — the female Thor and Muslim Ms. Marvel have been huge sales successes — and DC is struggling to tear themselves out of their rut.

The female Thor will be gone soon. Marvel is going down the black hole of a reality reboot in the next year or so. My bet is that the storyline pruning will result in there being one THOR, and it will be a male.

146 Eventual Carrion  May 5, 2015 8:03:24am

re: #94 HappyWarrior

It’s true. The paranoia about Islam and Muslims in my observations often comes from people who come from areas where Muslims are but a tiny fraction of the population. Of course anyone remotely Middle Eastern looking to them is a Muslim. I’m sure if Christ came back, some of them would think he’s a Muslim.

In the grand scheme of things, Jesus is a Muslim.

147 Lidane  May 5, 2015 8:04:12am

Mental health break:

148 Nyet  May 5, 2015 8:04:39am

re: #146 Eventual Carrion

Well, Jesus is Muslim in Islam (so is Moses, etc.).

149 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 8:05:21am

re: #148 Nyet

Well, Jesus is Muslim in Islam (so is Moses, etc.).

Not only in Islam but a prophet at that. The anti-Muslim bigots convince themselves that Islam and Christianity are nothing alike when in reality they have a lot in common.

150 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 5, 2015 8:05:41am

re: #133 Feline Fearless Leader

They claim it since it plays well for a number of reasons:
1) To their local followers, who can’t follow-up on the facts they can say, “See! We are attacking the United States in their home ground.”

2) It might cause further anti-Islam moves by the US government, media, etc. as it the wont of the RWNJ factions. Possibly to the point of more anti-Islam violence occurring in the US. ISIS views this as good as it helps them recruit followers and is something further to point out as the US being anti-Islam and thus deserving of jihad.

The extremists live off each other since both fit the stereotypes they want the other side to have and are vocal enough to easily appear to be the majority voice of the other religion.

This all true, but I don’t think the general public is going to buy into this one as an existential threat. This is no 9/11 or Boston Marathon bombing (although most people, to their credit, seemed to take that one pretty well in stride). This is more like the shoe bomber or the underwear bomber, who—much as the right tried to hype them up—were seen as a joke, even in the post 9/11 frenzy.

Also, if president Obama and secretary Kerry emphasize enough that Iran is supplying most of the boots on the ground to fight ISIS, it might even help sell the nuclear deal.

151 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 8:06:16am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Not only in Islam but a prophet at that. The anti-Muslim bigots convince themselves that Islam and Christianity are nothing alike when in reality they have a lot in common.

And they assume that it is Jesus vs Mohammed, as that is what they think the Crusades were all about.

152 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 5, 2015 8:06:29am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The people who talk the most about the “dignity of labor” and the “value of hard work” are the first ones to treat people like used toner cartridges.

i can still give you a good image but you have to shake me

153 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 8:06:36am

re: #76 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The Wash Post’s editorial page highlights the candidacies of Carson and Fiorina, notes some of their questionable histories but then says this

Smh

The newspaper’s interest is in having a horserace that will draw eyeballs and sell papers. Declaring those two DOA candidacies is not favorable to their business model.

Now, by journalistic standards, they’re being stupid since the facts are right there and they are essentially ignoring them in their conclusions.

154 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 5, 2015 8:08:19am

re: #148 Nyet

Well, Jesus is Muslim in Islam (so is Moses, etc.).

does jesus worship god?

155 Targetpractice  May 5, 2015 8:09:53am

re: #145 Feline Fearless Leader

The female Thor will be gone soon. Marvel is going down the black hole of a reality reboot in the next year or so. My bet is that the storyline pruning will result in there being one THOR, and it will be a male.

Marvel does takes risks, more so than DC, but they always have the retcon button handy when those risks fail to pay off.

156 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 8:09:54am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And they assume that it is Jesus vs Mohammed, as that is what they think the Crusades were all about.

They glorify the Crusades and ignore that the the Crusaders killed plenty of Christians too.

157 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 8:09:54am

Did I read something about a Pammy Geller comic book image contest somewhere…maybe here?

I’m thinking of doing some kind of comic illustration of her and exercising my First Amendment Freedoms!

158 Nyet  May 5, 2015 8:10:18am

re: #154 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

I would have to answer “no”. Others may differ ;)

159 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 8:11:26am

re: #156 HappyWarrior

They glorify the Crusades and ignore that the the Crusaders killed plenty of Christians too.

and more than a handful of Jews along the way, too…

160 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 8:11:33am

re: #79 Targetpractice

That allowed Marvel to take some other risks, such as “Guardians of the Galaxy”. Though arguably not too heavy a risk since if it had bombed they could have simply ignored that they’d ever made that movie.

DC seems to dabble in their lesser heroes* and simply not make good movies about them. Though they also seem to keep trying to do origin stories as well. Maybe they should shift gears and do one where the hero already *is* a hero and then not have to waste 1/2 a movie getting the main character to that point. That opens things up for more interesting plots as well.

161 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 8:12:00am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

and more than a handful of Jews along the way, too…

Yeah.

162 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 8:12:08am
163 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 8:13:02am

re: #157 ObserverArt

Did I read something about a Pammy Geller comic book image contest somewhere…maybe here?

I’m thinking of doing some kind of comic illustration of her and exercising my First Amendment Freedoms!

Here’s one entry

164 Eventual Carrion  May 5, 2015 8:13:09am

re: #148 Nyet

Well, Jesus is Muslim in Islam (so is Moses, etc.).

Yep, that is my point. Muslims revere Jesus as prophet and Mary as his mother on a very high level.

165 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 5, 2015 8:13:25am

re: #162 Bubblehead II

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166 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 8:14:34am

Oh no…I did a Google image search for ‘Pam Geller’ and in the third row of images was the one with her giving a thumbs up in a Little Green Football shirt.

I bet Charles just loves that. Ugh. More fodder for the people wanting to connect Charles, this site and her.

167 makeitstop  May 5, 2015 8:19:06am

re: #147 Lidane

Mental health break:

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Pretty funny. I’ve always kinda hated that song, precisely because the video was tooth-achingly sincere. They really catch that.

The rest of Pornografitti is absolutely killer, though. I’ll see them do it when I go to Vegas at the end of the month when I go out to photograph the Twisted Sister film shoot.

‘More Than Words’ will be the ‘bathroom song.’

168 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 8:19:29am

re: #165 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

And listen to Firth of Fifth.

…

169 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 8:19:54am

re: #164 Eventual Carrion

Yep, that is my point. Muslims revere Jesus as prophet and Mary as his mother on a very high level.

I remember Ann Coulter talking about how she wanted to “perfect” Jews by converting them to Christianity…I assume the same argument could apply for converting Christians to Islam.

170 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 5, 2015 8:21:49am

Well, there were so many serious things going on yesterday that I didn’t want to derail the discussion, but via Phil Plait, this is why the barge Just Read the Instructions is unmanned:

171 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 8:22:52am

re: #170 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, there were so many serious things going on yesterday that I didn’t want to derail the discussion, but via Phil Plait, this is why the barge Just Read the Instructions is unmanned:

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Did they name the booster “We’ll Get This Right Eventually”?
:)

172 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 8:23:01am

re: #168 lawhawk

And listen to Firth of Fifth.

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That was the last great Genesis album.

173 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 8:23:50am

Later folks…going to get some work done.

174 makeitstop  May 5, 2015 8:24:08am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That was the last great Genesis album.

I’d go with ‘Lamb Lies Down on Broadway,’ due to its harder edge. But I always go for the heavier stuff.

175 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 8:24:24am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That was the last great Genesis album.

I like that one and “Trick of the Tale” the most. The latter is Collins singing, but still essentially progressive rock and a lot of character in the songs.

176 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 5, 2015 8:24:32am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I remember Ann Coulter talking about how she wanted to “perfect” Jews by converting them to Christianity…I assume the same argument could apply for converting Christians to Islam.

I’ve always considered Christianity Judaism for Dummies and Islam Christianity for Dummies, but what do I know?

177 Slap  May 5, 2015 8:25:12am

re: #73 Lord Of The Pies

Maybe I’m a little nuts, but this little bit of braindead dipshittery may not come across like the initiator intended.

There’s a reason the tax funding comes from those of us who bust our asses: those rich folks USED to pick up the excess via taxes, but managed to shift the burden downward through multiple tax cuts for themselves.

Typical half-assed reasoning. Actually, quarter-assed is probably more accurate.

178 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 8:25:53am

re: #175 Feline Fearless Leader

I like that one and “Trick of the Tale” the most. The latter is Collins singing, but still essentially progressive rock and a lot of character in the songs.

Lamb Lies Down and Trick of the Tale are still good, but they did not blow me away like Selling England by the Pound.

179 Nyet  May 5, 2015 8:25:59am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That’s what Jihadis basically want.

180 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 5, 2015 8:26:13am

re: #171 Feline Fearless Leader

Did they name the booster “We’ll Get This Right Eventually”?
:)

Well, the Falcon 1 was named “The Fourth Time’s the Charm”, right?

181 darthstar  May 5, 2015 8:26:17am
182 darthstar  May 5, 2015 8:26:46am
183 Nyet  May 5, 2015 8:27:17am

re: #176 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve always considered Christianity Judaism for Dummies and Islam Christianity for Dummies, but what do I know?

And Judaism is Canaanite Religion for Dummies? :D

184 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 5, 2015 8:28:42am

re: #183 Nyet

And Judaism is Canaanite Religion for Dummies? :D

You joke, but yes. It seems like every new “revelation” is drastically simplified from the last one.

185 Decatur Deb  May 5, 2015 8:29:27am

re: #184 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You joke, but yes. It seems like every new “revelation” is drastically simplified from the last one.

Xenu begs to differ.

186 Ace-o-aces  May 5, 2015 8:30:50am

re: #5 Lord Of The Pies

187 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 8:30:58am

re: #170 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

188 darthstar  May 5, 2015 8:31:52am

This kid won’t have to spend any money on tackle all summer.

189 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 5, 2015 8:32:26am

re: #185 Decatur Deb

Xenu begs to differ.

Touché. But I consider that more in the line of the old Mystery Religions than the Semitic sky-father tradition.

190 Decatur Deb  May 5, 2015 8:33:57am

re: #189 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Touché. But I consider that more in the line of the old Mystery Religions than the Semitic sky-father tradition.

It’s an elaboration of The Book of Barnum.

191 Nyet  May 5, 2015 8:34:04am

re: #184 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You joke, but yes. It seems like every new “revelation” is drastically simplified from the last one.

I don’t see it that way. If anything, it becomes more complex, if only because new info is added without the old one being deleted.

Case in point: I always wondered how people can believe in the more or less literal biblical Christianity. I mean, there are so many contradictions and so on. But then come Mormons and add new books, new legends, new outrageous stories, new problematic history - and all this without getting rid of the old stuff. What was cognitive dissonance in traditional Christianity now becomes cognitive dissonance squared.

This means that the Mormon apologists need to be many times as inventive as the traditional Christian ones (and they are, in a way). This also means that the Mormon theology is also more complex in significant ways.

192 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 8:34:09am

re: #186 Ace-o-aces

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I mean when I’m holding my niece, I try not to even have my headphones on. Even if I were a gun owner which I’m not, the last thing I’d be doing would be holding her with a loaded weapon in my hand. These gun memes are so fucking stupid. They’re for people who think life is like a video game where if you accidentally kill your loved one, you can restart at the last check point or save spot. Reality ain’t like that fucksticks.

193 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 5, 2015 8:34:51am

re: #190 Decatur Deb

It’s an elaboration of The Book of Barnum.

Actually it’s an update of the Book of Smith.

194 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 8:35:20am

re: #191 Nyet

I don’t see it that way. If anything, it becomes more complex, if only because new info is added without the old one being deleted.

Case in point: I always wondered how people can believe in the more or less literal biblical Christianity. I mean, there are so many contradictions and so on. But then come Mormons and add new books, new legends, new outrageous stories, new problematic history - and all this without getting rid of the old stuff. What was cognitive dissonance in traditional Christianity now becomes cognitive dissonance squared.

This means that the Mormon apologists need to be many times as inventive as the traditional Christian ones (and they are, in a way). This also means that the Mormon theology is also more complex in significant ways.

Still essentially seems to boil down to “Obey what I say is the proper interpretation of the holy words. And in all other things as well.”

195 Ace-o-aces  May 5, 2015 8:36:00am
196 darthstar  May 5, 2015 8:38:11am
197 Targetpractice  May 5, 2015 8:38:20am

re: #195 Ace-o-aces

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As always, begs the question of what sort of training would prepare someone to take out a shooter in body armor in a crowded theater with a handgun.

198 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 8:38:43am

re: #195 Ace-o-aces

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You have to excuse him Ace, he’s a moron who has spent his whole young life just hearing empty conservative rhetoric. Really, I hear all the time about the “responsible gun owners.” Yet I’m repeatedly reading about accidents involving these same people and I don’t think they’re stupid for having these accidents since even accidents involving guns happen to professionals such as police and military but I guess that furthers the point why guns don’t need to be fucking everywhere and I wouldn’t keep a gun anywhere near a child.

199 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 8:39:21am

re: #197 Targetpractice

As always, begs the question of what sort of training would prepare someone to take out a shooter in body armor in a crowded theater with a handgun.

The training that tells them to “secure the infant safely underneath the seat before drawing your weapon”

200 Ace-o-aces  May 5, 2015 8:40:18am

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

201 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 8:41:07am

If you really believe a polite society is a well armed society, you ain’t paying attention.

202 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 8:41:26am

The Pamela Event Shooters were stopped by one professional traffic cop firing his service weapon. Can you begin to imagine the bloodbath that would have ensued if the ‘roided up militia guys inside the building started firing?

203 Lidane  May 5, 2015 8:41:41am

Mike Huckabee is on mah teevee here at work babbling about how he’s running for POTUS.

Thank SRV the sound is muted, or I’d be tempted to throw things.

204 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 8:43:18am

re: #202 Lord Of The Pies

The Pamela Event Shooters were stopped by one professional traffic cop firing his service weapon. Can you begin to imagine the bloodbath that would have ensued if the ‘roided up militia guys inside the building started firing?

They could have gotten themselves killed. “price of liberty” I suppose.//

205 Targetpractice  May 5, 2015 8:44:32am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

If you really believe a polite society is a well armed society, you ain’t paying attention.

To be fair, most of those who quote the whole “An armed society is a polite society” BS ignore the context of the comment, which was a criticism of such beliefs because the only way it works is for everybody to be so afraid of retaliation that they do nothing to provoke others, until such time as society is completely static for fear that offense could lead to death.

206 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 8:46:36am

re: #205 Targetpractice

To be fair, most of those who quote the whole “An armed society is a polite society” BS ignore the context of the comment, which was a criticism of such beliefs because the only way it works is for everybody to be so afraid of retaliation that they do nothing to provoke others, until such time as society is completely static for fear that offense could lead to death.

Ah true. In any case, I have no desire to live in such a society where some yahoo points a gun at me for the smallest altercation.

207 Eventual Carrion  May 5, 2015 8:46:57am

re: #188 darthstar

This kid won’t have to spend any money on tackle all summer.

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Yeah, I see a lot of jigs on there. The bottom is where you fish those jigs so you snag on everything on the bottom. He prob has some of mine in that mess.

208 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 8:47:23am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

They could have gotten themselves killed. “price of liberty” I suppose.//

That would have been bad enough, but god knows who would’ve been caught in the crossfire.

209 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 8:48:26am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That would have been bad enough, but god knows who would’ve been caught in the crossfire.

Oh no doubt about that too. I think I remember hearing that there was a concealed gun owner on hand during the Giffords shooting. He thought about bringing his piece out but he decided not to because he realized it would lead to only more chaos than there already was.

210 Nyet  May 5, 2015 8:48:45am

Because forced politeness is so so good.

211 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 5, 2015 8:49:40am

re: #205 Targetpractice

To be fair, most of those who quote the whole “An armed society is a polite society” BS ignore the context of the comment, which was a criticism of such beliefs because the only way it works is for everybody to be so afraid of retaliation that they do nothing to provoke others, until such time as society is completely static for fear that offense could lead to death.

To be even fairer, when Heinlein used the phrase “armed society” (remember this was what, 1939?) all previous examples had had rules and a code duello to keep things in line. Every drooling goober carrying a gun because FREEDUMB!!! isn’t an “armed society” because it’s not a society—it’s chaos.

212 Targetpractice  May 5, 2015 8:50:44am

re: #210 Nyet

Because forced politeness is so so good.

It always gets me how those who think that everybody being armed would lead to a much nicer society get irate over “political correctness” and the perception that they are being forced to be nice to others out of fear of legal retaliation.

213 Nyet  May 5, 2015 8:53:04am

re: #212 Targetpractice

Someone willing to kill for rudeness ought not have a gun in the first place.

214 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 8:53:27am
215 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 8:54:18am

I mean I see the things that people have drawn arms over and it yeah really sours me on mass gun ownersnip and this idea that we need more not less guns. If I have one gripe with our society, it’s that so many feel they need to be armed to the tooth. I don’t begrudge someone who wants to be armed tor protection, enjoys hunting or target shooting, or even enjoys collecting antique weapons as a hobby but those who say I NEED X AMOUNT OF GUNS TO PROTECT ME FROM TYRANNY are just naive fools.

216 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 8:54:43am

If you want to defend yourself in your own home with your own gun, then that is your choice. But defending yourself and others in a crowded public place demands good situational awareness, nerves of steel and years of training and practice.

That is not a skills set you can purchase over the counter at the local Wal-Mart sporting goods section.

217 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 8:55:08am

re: #214 lawhawk

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Only thing that really separates Huck from the Jihadis is the facial hair. Huck’s worldview is really no different than theirs especially when it comes to “nonbelievers”, gays, and women.

218 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 8:55:25am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If you want to defend yourself in your own home with your own gun, then that is your choice. But defending yourself and others in a crowded public place demands good situational awareness, nerves of steel and years of training and practice.

That is not a skills set you can purchase over the counter at the local Wal-Mart sporting goods section.

Word.

219 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 8:56:23am
220 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 9:00:14am
221 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 9:00:27am

And people wonder why the GOP, and Huckabee are lost on taxes. They claim populist stances, but don’t hold up to the slightest scrutiny.

222 danarchy  May 5, 2015 9:02:26am

re: #202 Lord Of The Pies

The Pamela Event Shooters were stopped by one professional traffic cop firing his service weapon. Can you begin to imagine the bloodbath that would have ensued if the ‘roided up militia guys inside the building started firing?

I thought the ‘roided up militia guys inside the building were actually Garland SWAT? At least that what several of the news reports were calling them.

223 Iwouldprefernotto  May 5, 2015 9:04:47am

re: #222 danarchy

I thought the ‘roided up militia guys inside the building were actually Garland SWAT? At least that what several of the news reports were calling them.

We should get CCJ on the case.

224 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 9:05:09am

re: #221 lawhawk

Hardly surprising either that he’s also pushing the Fair Tax bs that is anything but fair, and would need to exceed 35% to capture the revenue currently generated. The FairTax proponents play fast and loose with how to calculate the tax, and it would end up requiring far more oversight from a taxing authority than at present.

But IRS = evil, so that’s what they’re going with.

225 Lidane  May 5, 2015 9:06:12am

Another reason why I’m glad mah teevee here at work is muted — Keith Ablow is flapping his pie hole, and “The Five” are being their usual vapid spokesmodel selves.

226 Decatur Deb  May 5, 2015 9:06:20am

re: #222 danarchy

I thought the ‘roided up militia guys inside the building were actually Garland SWAT? At least that what several of the news reports were calling them.

They were wearing “Police” sew-ons and BS wannabe morale patches. The distinction blurs.

227 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:06:25am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wonder if Huckabee would be singing the same tune if he were still in office. I mean I actually kind of get his point since Rand, Ted, and also Marco have been prioritizing their presidential run more than their senate duties but I do wonder if he’d be doing this if he were still in office himself.

228 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:06:52am

re: #225 Lidane

Another reason why I’m glad mah teevee here at work is muted — Keith Ablow is flapping his pie hole, and “The Five” are being their usual vapid spokesmodel selves.

Ah yes Keith Ablow, Fox’s resident quack.

229 Eventual Carrion  May 5, 2015 9:07:16am

re: #195 Ace-o-aces

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One person walks into an establishment and open fire. Two of his friends already in the room open fire. Other people not involved in the “plan” pull out their iron and start shooting at, whom?

The initial person? The next 2 who opened up while the people not involved were fumbling for their piece and not paying attention? The second 2 that opened fire, are they fighting the initial shooter or part of the attackers? Then with more people pulling pieces, who is the attacker and who are the defenders? Gets ugly real quickly.

230 Targetpractice  May 5, 2015 9:07:37am

Can I once again comment on how ridiculous I consider the demand for a “strong” bench of Dem candidates is in light of the blood-letting going on in the Repub ranks?

231 Decatur Deb  May 5, 2015 9:08:41am

re: #230 Targetpractice

Can I once again comment on how ridiculous I consider the demand for a “strong” bench of Dem candidates is in light of the blood-letting going on in the Repub ranks?

We have HRC and a couple light sparring partners. So far, so good.

232 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 9:09:42am

re: #226 Decatur Deb

They were wearing “Police” sew-ons and BS wannabe morale patches. The distinction blurs.

And it’s glaringly apparent that the “SWAT guys” were hogging the news cameras and accepting kudos for “saving the day”, but didn’t have a single thing to do with the actual shooting event.

233 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:10:50am

re: #230 Targetpractice

Can I once again comment on how ridiculous I consider the demand for a “strong” bench of Dem candidates is in light of the blood-letting going on in the Repub ranks?

I do want a healthy Dem primary but at the same time, the current R primary is too many chefs in the damn kitchen.

234 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:11:38am

re: #231 Decatur Deb

We have HRC and a couple light sparring partners. So far, so good.

HRC, Jim Webb, Bernie Sanders, and possibly Martin O’Malley. I like that.

235 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 9:12:03am
236 Decatur Deb  May 5, 2015 9:13:00am

When you incorporate death’s head icons in your uniform heraldry I get one vibe:

237 Targetpractice  May 5, 2015 9:13:20am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I do want a healthy Dem primary but at the same time, the current R primary is too many chefs in the damn kitchen.

The GOP bench is doing what I’ve said a “strong” Dem bench would: Destroy each other while driving the bar for “true conservative” so far out to the edge that, by the time the nomination happens next August, the person wearing the crown will be unelectable.

By contrast, I actually do like that Bernie Sanders entered the race, as having an avowed socialist in the field actually shows just how laughable it is to accuse Hillary of “socialism.”

238 Nyet  May 5, 2015 9:13:54am

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239 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 5, 2015 9:19:44am

Christian game developer launches video game to shoot LGBT people

“These people that think if you are even remotely homophobic, you are ‘hateful’ and a ‘bigot’ and do everything they can to destroy you in every vicious way possible,” Herman wrote. “So I decided to go down a path that most developers are afraid to go down: to piss these people off by making the most overly offensive game possible to these idiots to prove a point.”

well he proved his first hypothesis, that’s for sure.

240 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:21:45am

re: #237 Targetpractice

The GOP bench is doing what I’ve said a “strong” Dem bench would: Destroy each other while driving the bar for “true conservative” so far out to the edge that, by the time the nomination happens next August, the person wearing the crown will be unelectable.

By contrast, I actually do like that Bernie Sanders entered the race, as having an avowed socialist in the field actually shows just how laughable it is to accuse Hillary of “socialism.”

Yeah Bernie’s not going to push Hillary so far to the left where she’s unelectable whereas in the GOP clown mobile, candidates like Huckabee will force Jeb and the other establishment types to move far to the right.

241 Nyet  May 5, 2015 9:21:49am

re: #239 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

That’s clearly against the Bible. Now, stoning on the other hand…

242 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 5, 2015 9:22:35am

re: #241 Nyet

That’s clearly against the Bible. Now, stoning on the other and…

You obviously missed the chapter about Machine Gun Jesus //

243 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 9:23:05am

re: #239 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Just as Jesus would have done.

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244 William Lewis  May 5, 2015 9:23:34am

re: #196 darthstar

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I have often wondered if our lives on Earth isn’t simply our time in purgatory…

245 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 5, 2015 9:23:48am

re: #242 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

You obviously missed the chapter about Machine Gun Jesus //

That Loaves and Fishes trick works with bullets, too.

246 Nyet  May 5, 2015 9:24:37am

re: #242 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Nah, but I did read the book about Jesus with a sword sticking out of his mouth coming to destroy all the sinners - gays presumably among them.

247 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 5, 2015 9:25:24am

re: #244 William Lewis

I have often wondered if our lives on Earth isn’t simply our time in purgatory…

Careful—that way lies Buddhism.//

248 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 9:25:42am

I just can’t even.
Maybe Nelly Bly had a pistol, but she wasn’t Annie Fucking Oakley.

249 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 9:26:18am

This guy wins the Internet==>

250 Ace-o-aces  May 5, 2015 9:27:26am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Oh no doubt about that too. I think I remember hearing that there was a concealed gun owner on hand during the Giffords shooting

Giffords was shot in a state with shall issue concealed carry. As I recall, that did fuck-all to save anyone there.

251 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:28:15am

re: #248 Lord Of The Pies

I just can’t even.
Maybe Nelly Bly had a pistol, but she wasn’t Annie Fucking Oakley.

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I really also doubt that Nellie Bly owned a Tommy Gun and felt the need to pose scantily with guns like so many of the conservative “ladies” of TCOT. I mean want to own a gun for protection? I don’t begrudge that individual at all and I understand why someone like Bly would have wanted to be armed but at the same time, I will never understand why people A) think guns are magical talismans that will “put away all the bad guys” and B) feel the need to own weapons better suited for the military than a civilian. They refuse to understand the liberal position on guns because they convince themselves that we’re out to get their guns when in reality we’re laughing at how paranoid they are.

252 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:29:01am

re: #250 Ace-o-aces

Giffords was shot in a state with shall issue concealed carry. As I recall, that did fuck-all to save anyone there.

Yeah but gun free zones.///

253 Timothy Watson  May 5, 2015 9:29:33am

re: #248 Lord Of The Pies

I just can’t even.
Maybe Nelly Bly had a pistol, but she wasn’t Annie Fucking Oakley.

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I really wish I had the clip from The West Wing where Nellie Bly is referenced, guess I’ll have to resort to the IMDB’s quotes:

President Josiah Bartlet: You know what I did, just then, that was stupid? I minimized the importance of the statue that was dedicated to Nellie Bly, an extraordinary woman to whom we all owe a great deal.

Abbey Bartlet: You don’t know who she is, do you?

President Josiah Bartlet: [to himself] This isn’t happening to me.

Abbey Bartlet: She pioneered investigative journalism.

President Josiah Bartlet: Then she’s the one I want to beat the crap out of.

Abbey Bartlet: She risked her life by having herself committed to a mental institution for ten days so she could write about it. She changed entirely the way we treat the mentally ill in this country.

President Josiah Bartlet: Yes. Abigail…

Abbey Bartlet: In 1890, she traveled around the world in 72 days, 6 hours, 11 minutes and 14 seconds, besting by more than one week, Jules Verne’s 80 days.

President Josiah Bartlet: She sounds like an incredible woman, Abbey. I’m particularly impressed that she beat a fictional record. If she goes down 21,000 leagues under the sea, I’ll name a damn school after her! Let’s have sex.

Abbey Bartlet: When it comes to historical figures being memorialized in this country, women have been largely overlooked. Nellie Bly is just the tip of the iceberg.

President Josiah Bartlet: I couldn’t possibly hear about the rest of the iceberg right now.

Abbey Bartlet: Elizabeth Blackwell was the first American woman to be awarded an MD. She founded the Women’s Medical College…

President Josiah Bartlet: Keep talking. I’m just gonna sit here and think about plutonium and the things I can do with it.

254 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 9:32:59am

Nellie Bly’s Ten Days in a Mad-house audiobook is free at Gutenberg Project.

255 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 9:33:24am

re: #251 HappyWarrior

I really also doubt that Nellie Bly owned a Tommy Gun and felt the need to pose scantily with guns like so many of the conservative “ladies” of TCOT.

The “Conservative ladies of TCOT” are all too fat to pose for gun-fucking porno. All those photos are professional models hired for the NRA calendar. And Dana Loesch.

256 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 9:33:30am

re: #202 Lord Of The Pies

The Pamela Event Shooters were stopped by one professional traffic cop firing his service weapon. Can you begin to imagine the bloodbath that would have ensued if the ‘roided up militia guys inside the building started firing?

If ISIS was really clever and behind it they would have had the attackers dressed up as and proclaiming themselves as Texas Open Carry folk and *really* opened a can of worms.
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257 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:34:04am

re: #255 Lord Of The Pies

The “Conservative ladies of TCOT” are all too fat to pose for gun-fucking porno. All those photos are professional models hired for the NRA calendar. And Dana Loesch.

hence “ladies.” Really it’s porno for people who are too ashamed to look at real porno.

258 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 9:34:42am

re: #210 Nyet

Because forced politeness is so so good.

Well, how is that so different from behaving in fear of being punished in the afterlife by the SkyDaddy?

259 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 9:34:43am

re: #256 Feline Fearless Leader

If ISIS was really clever and behind it they would have had the attackers dressed up as and proclaiming themselves as Texas Open Carry folk and *really* opened a can of worms.
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AR-15’s and lame trilby hats?

No self-respecting Daesh terrorist would be caught dead in that getup.

260 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 9:36:08am

re: #257 HappyWarrior

hence “ladies.” Really it’s porno for people who are too ashamed to look at real porno.

It was wrong of me to fat-shame.

Those TCOT warriors rocking “Hot Girl In Bikini and Guns” avi are all dudes who can’t get a date.

261 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 9:39:33am

re: #260 Lord Of The Pies

It was wrong of me to fat-shame.

Those TCOT warriors rocking “Hot Girl In Bikini and Guns” avi are all dudes who can’t get a date.

Just like computer nerds cannot relate to women who cannot code Java, these guys cannot relate to anyone who cannot field strip an assault rifle.

262 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:40:40am

re: #260 Lord Of The Pies

It was wrong of me to fat-shame.

Those TCOT warriors rocking “Hot Girl In Bikini and Guns” avi are all dudes who can’t get a date.

Yeah I think that’s more likely the case. No woman would post a photo of those memes and seriously thinks that’s an argument for massive gun ownership. It’s just sexually repressed right wing males who are more sexually aroused by guns than women.

263 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:40:55am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Just like computer nerds cannot relate to women who cannot code Java, these guys cannot relate to anyone who cannot field strip an assault rifle.

Gun nerds.

264 Nyet  May 5, 2015 9:41:23am

I see there was some sort of a debate between Harris and Chomsky. Started reading, but understood that two gasbags fighting is just boring.

265 Mike Lamb  May 5, 2015 9:44:17am

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

DEVIL WORSHIPPING HAIR!!!

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The ban is right, just for all the wrong reasons…

266 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 9:44:20am

For example this Twitter account @AIIAmericanGirI is definitely a dude.

267 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:45:20am

re: #266 Lord Of The Pies

For example this Twitter account @AIIAmericanGirI is definitely a dude.

If I didn’t know any better, I would think that this was a parody of those accounts but looking at the tweets, I can see it’s very real.

268 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 9:45:20am

(“Pontious” and “Barnabas” … hahahaaaa….)

269 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 9:45:25am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY, BUTTHURT CAKE BAKERY EDITION==>

270 Dr Lizardo  May 5, 2015 9:45:59am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Just like computer nerds cannot relate to women who cannot code Java, these guys cannot relate to anyone who cannot field strip an assault rifle.

The ammosexuals remind of the line in the film Weird Science when Chet, the older (assholish) brother, says, “You two doggie dicks couldn’t get laid in a morgue.”

271 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:46:17am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

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(“Pontious” and “Barnabas” … hahahaaaa….)

I love it when right wing assholes like Chuckles pretend to be devout people when they’re really just scumbags that use religion as a tool just like everything else.

272 Romantic Heretic  May 5, 2015 9:47:06am

re: #104 Targetpractice

Bain is a chop shop, it doesn’t exist to save businesses and make them successful, it exists to strip failing businesses for parts.

Again I will note how odd it is that the people who hate Marx the most work busily to prove that Marx was right about how capitalism works and its effect on society.

273 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 9:47:32am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

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(“Pontious” and “Barnabas” … hahahaaaa….)

Collins?

It is really funny that this fellow considers himself a “journalist” when he gives not a fig for basics like fact and spelling checks…

274 Nyet  May 5, 2015 9:47:34am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

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(“Pontious” and “Barnabas” … hahahaaaa….)

Down there with Confucious.

275 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:48:08am

re: #269 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY, BUTTHURT CAKE BAKERY EDITION==>

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These people are such fucking idiots. The gay couples are just asking for cakes the same way a straight couple would. Same ingredients. They’re not asking the “Christian bakers” to bake them a cake in the shape of something offensive. Fucking right wing illiterate idiots.

276 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 9:48:19am

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Collins?

It is really funny that this fellow considers himself a “journalist” when he gives not a fig for basics like fact and spelling checks…

haha! I immediately thought of him!

277 nearly-headless smith25  May 5, 2015 9:48:50am

Comer is one of the Republican Candidates for Guv in KY. He probably has the best shot of defeating Jack Conway in November.

The interesting part of this is the soap opera. The main blogger pushing this story is allegedly connected to the Running mate of one of the other Republican candidates.

278 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 9:49:07am

re: #272 Romantic Heretic

Again I will note how odd it is that the people who hate Marx the most work busily to prove that Marx was right about how capitalism works and its effect on society.

The various DC and Marvel movies seem to think that rich industrialists are a major threat to the United States and the world.
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279 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:49:13am

Pointous Pilate aka Pointy Pilot.

280 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 9:49:29am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

These people are such fucking idiots. The gay couples are just asking for cakes the same way a straight couple would. Same ingredients. They’re not asking the “Christian bakers” to bake them a cake in the shape of something offensive. Fucking right wing illiterate idiots.

If they do not have Mohammad cartoon cakes on their list of offerings, they cannot be coerced. Just like a Jewish butcher cannot be compelled to carry pork.

281 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 9:49:46am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Pointous Pilate aka Pointy Pilot.

At least UpChuck didn’t call him “Pontious Pilates” this time.

:D

282 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 9:50:45am

re: #277 nearly-headless smith25

Yeah, Comer’s morning presser about hemp production was going to get derailed over the girlfriend thing. Thus this 1 p.m. presser.

283 Dr Lizardo  May 5, 2015 9:50:46am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

These people are such fucking idiots. The gay couples are just asking for cakes the same way a straight couple would. Same ingredients. They’re not asking the “Christian bakers” to bake them a cake in the shape of something offensive. Fucking right wing illiterate idiots.

Bear in mind that the wingnuts believe that if you bake a cake for a wedding party, you’re taking part in the marriage as well.

It’s totally fucking stupid, I know, but what can I do? They’re morons.

284 Romantic Heretic  May 5, 2015 9:51:20am

re: #156 HappyWarrior

They glorify the Crusades and ignore that the the Crusaders killed plenty of Christians too.

And the Fourth Crusade fucked Constantinople so badly that it was easy picking for the Ottomans.

285 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:51:41am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If they do not have Mohammad cartoon cakes on their list of offerings, they cannot be coerced. Just like a Jewish butcher cannot be compelled to carry pork.

Right. What these idiots don’t get is that the Muslim or Jewish baker or butcher analogy is totally false. The better analogy would be a Muslim or Jewish baker refusing to serve someone because of their beliefs not because of a request simply to troll the person. But if a gay couple asks for the same wedding cake that you’re baking straight couples, damn straight you have to provide it and it is bigotry and discrimination to refuse to.

286 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 9:52:13am

re: #283 Dr Lizardo

Bear in mind that the wingnuts believe that if you bake a cake for a wedding party, you’re taking part in the marriage as well.

It’s totally fucking stupid, I know, but what can I do? They’re morons.

Because they cannot distinguish between the sacrament of Holy Matrimony and the civil status of marriage. Nor can they distinguish between a marriage ceremony and a wedding celebration.

But they can distinguish quite clearly between Good and Evil and they know where gays and Muslims stand on that issue…

287 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:52:21am

re: #283 Dr Lizardo

Bear in mind that the wingnuts believe that if you bake a cake for a wedding party, you’re taking part in the marriage as well.

It’s totally fucking stupid, I know, but what can I do? They’re morons.

Yeah true. Man what fucking morons. But it’s good to know what businesses are run by morons.

288 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:55:30am

The better analogy would be a gay bakery refusing to serve a straight Christian couple simply because they’re Christian. But these people don’t want to admit that they’re discriminating bigots. They want to hide behind “religious liberty” to claim they’re not discriminating even though they have and continue to serve other “sinners.” I agree with the Lizards who have said that this movement is a response to the fact that the RR is losing the SSM battle and can’t stand it.

289 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 9:55:37am

Sometimes Twitter… I just… I like George Takei, but when I see retweets like this is makes me… I don’t even have a word for it… A late Vine star? Some celebrity is eating cereal to honor one of them and it’s supposed to be the sweetest thing I’ll watch? Seriously, America? Crap like this makes me want to quit Twitter.

290 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 9:57:07am

re: #289 CuriousLurker

Sometimes Twitter… I just… I like George Takei, but when I see retweets like this is makes me… I don’t even have a word for it… A late Vine star? Some celebrity is eating cereal to honor one of them and it’s supposed to be the sweetest thing I’ll watch? Seriously, America? Crap like this makes me want to quit Twitter.

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If i had a dime for everytime Buzzfeed or whatever told me that “this” is the “Sweetest” “beautiful” “touching” “insert adjective here” you’ll ever watch, I’ll be loaded for life.

291 Nyet  May 5, 2015 9:57:46am

re: #289 CuriousLurker

Why not? It’s a symbolic tribute to a dead guy. People liked it too.

292 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 9:58:56am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

If i had a dime for everytime Buzzfeed or whatever told me that “this” is the “Sweetest” “beautiful” “touching” “insert adjective here” you’ll ever watch, I’ll be loaded for life.

THE “ADJECTIVE” THING YOU’LL EVER WATCH TODAY

293 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 9:59:12am

re: #291 Nyet

I wouldn’t know—didn’t click on it. Too jaw-droppingly inane.

294 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 10:00:21am

re: #292 Lord Of The Pies

THE “ADJECTIVE” THING YOU’LL EVER WATCH TODAY

That’s right. I mean I’m sure this is a sweet tribute by Gosling but these are just silly to me at this point. And I love how the Onion’s sister website, Clickhole has parodied that.

295 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 10:00:45am

re: #292 Lord Of The Pies

Hell, most of them won’t even cover a whole day, not with the amount of stuff that flashes past our eyes every day.

296 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:00:53am

re: #293 CuriousLurker

I don’t see it that way.

297 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 10:01:00am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

(“Pontious” and “Barnabas” … hahahaaaa….)

Is Chucky trying to say “Barabbas”? As in Pilate set Barabbas free instead of Jesus?

298 nearly-headless smith25  May 5, 2015 10:03:00am

re: #277 nearly-headless smith25

299 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 10:03:01am

re: #296 Nyet

To each his own. I hope it’s not the sweetest thing you’ll watch (today).

301 Romantic Heretic  May 5, 2015 10:03:39am

re: #160 Feline Fearless Leader

That allowed Marvel to take some other risks, such as “Guardians of the Galaxy”. Though arguably not too heavy a risk since if it had bombed they could have simply ignored that they’d ever made that movie.

DC seems to dabble in their lesser heroes* and simply not make good movies about them. Though they also seem to keep trying to do origin stories as well. Maybe they should shift gears and do one where the hero already *is* a hero and then not have to waste 1/2 a movie getting the main character to that point. That opens things up for more interesting plots as well.

DC’s direct to disk animated movies have been uniformly good. Things like Under The Red Hood and The Flashpoint Paradox rocked.

302 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 10:04:44am

re: #300 Lord Of The Pies

Garbage Person Who Sucks At Being A Human gloats over San Francisco store that won’t pay its employees a living wage

That’s a great way to make people wanna work for you.

303 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 10:04:45am

re: #289 CuriousLurker

Sometimes Twitter… I just… I like George Takei, but when I see retweets like this is makes me… I don’t even have a word for it… A late Vine star? Some celebrity is eating cereal to honor one of them and it’s supposed to be the sweetest thing I’ll watch? Seriously, America? Crap like this makes me want to quit Twitter.

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On the regular twitter.com site you can block a user’s retweets. Might be useful for George T.

304 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:05:03am

re: #299 CuriousLurker

It may not be the sweetest thing, but it sure was a nice gesture towards a guy who died from cancer at 27.

305 Great White Snark  May 5, 2015 10:05:24am

Well it increasingly seems early reports were correct for once. One good cop with a gun stopped the attack in Garland. Some seemed quite uncomfortable with this unusual result. That was the right cop with a gun. His name is being held for his safety. It’s a heroic & highly skilled act, I say that should not be diminished by our dislike for abusive police officers of record, nor because he used a gun, at tool many are also quite uncomfortable around.

cnn.com

(CNN)It wasn’t a fair fight.

On one side, you had two men in body armor, toting assault rifles and showing every willingness to open fire now and count their victims later. On the other, you had a security officer — a traffic officer by day — with a pistol.

Somehow, the officer won.

Authorities have not released the name of the overmatched Garland, Texas, police officer who stopped a pair of gunmen Sunday night outside that city’s Curtis Culwell Center, where people had gathered at an event featuring controversial cartoons of the Muslim Prophet Mohammed. But they have described what he did, actions that could be characterized as equal parts skillful, heroic and miraculous.

This is why training and attitude and planning matter. Good people with good skills with their equipment. Gun or not. Cop or not. If we can regret the awful shooting where all went so wrong and many got hurt like the NOHO bank robbery, or when a cop screws up with his gun, we should also be willing to fully acknowledge when things go well. And yes it’s going to wind up in the books on pistol tactics as per defensive shoots and police shootings.

306 Eventual Carrion  May 5, 2015 10:06:30am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

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(“Pontious” and “Barnabas” … hahahaaaa….)

A gay guy in the dark shadows.

307 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 10:06:51am

re: #300 Lord Of The Pies

Garbage Person Who Sucks At Being A Human gloats over San Francisco store that won’t pay its employees a living wage

Who the fuck can afford to live in SF on $12.50 per hour? (Or even $15?)

308 danarchy  May 5, 2015 10:06:54am

re: #289 CuriousLurker

Sometimes Twitter… I just… I like George Takei, but when I see retweets like this is makes me… I don’t even have a word for it… A late Vine star? Some celebrity is eating cereal to honor one of them and it’s supposed to be the sweetest thing I’ll watch? Seriously, America? Crap like this makes me want to quit Twitter.

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Believe it or not that was one of the trending stories on Bing, so it isn’t just twitter.

309 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:07:36am

re: #308 danarchy

I first read about it on a Russian news site.

310 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 10:08:38am

re: #307 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Who the fuck can afford to live in SF on $12.50 per hour? (Or even $15?)

Also, what kind of a “hip” Comic Book Emporium doesn’t know how to use Teh Internets?

311 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 10:09:16am

re: #298 nearly-headless smith25

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312 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 10:09:54am

re: #307 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Who the fuck can afford to live in SF on $12.50 per hour? (Or even $15?)

HURR HURR THEIR JUST TEENAGERS LIVING WITH THERE PARENTS, EARNING SOME EXTRA COINS TO TAKE THERE HONEY TO TEH SOCK HOP IN THERE JALOPY

313 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 10:09:54am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Did Obama change his name to Mark Sanford?

314 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 10:10:24am

re: #310 Lord Of The Pies

Also, what kind of a “hip” Comic Book Emporium doesn’t know how to use Teh Internets?

He certainly knows how to use SNAP and Medicaid to make up for the shortfall between the wages he pays and the money people need to live above the poverty level.

315 Eventual Carrion  May 5, 2015 10:12:06am

re: #297 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is Chucky trying to say “Barabbas”? As in Pilate set Barabbas free instead of Jesus?

From my recollection, he left it up to the people and the people decided to free Barabbas and convict Jesus.

316 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 10:13:17am

re: #305 Great White Snark

I say that should not be diminished by our dislike for abusive police officers of record, nor because he used a gun, at tool many are also quite uncomfortable around.
…

, we should also be willing to fully acknowledge when things go well.
[….]

To me, the distraction from the man’s skill and heroism is not the gun, but the fact that it occurred at an event designed to have such things happen. Sadly, ‘things went well’ for Geller.

317 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 10:13:41am

re: #303 wrenchwench

On the regular twitter.com site you can block a user’s retweets. Might be useful for George T.

Good idea, thanks.

318 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 10:14:27am

re: #317 CuriousLurker

Good idea, thanks.

I hope the user doesn’t know about it.

319 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:15:07am

re: #315 Eventual Carrion

From my recollection, he left it up to the people and the people decided to free Barabbas and convict Jesus.

“Barabbas” purely coincidentally (aha) meaning “son of the father”.

320 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 10:15:53am
321 allegro  May 5, 2015 10:16:07am

I absolutely give this fine officer his due for his quick thinking and skill that likely prevented a lot of bloodshed both from the shooters as well as the SWAT team still inside the building. It is, however, pretty desperate to finally find a single good example out of countless tragic ones to say “See! Good guy with a gun!” to justify our sick gun culture.

323 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 10:16:54am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Damn greedy unions.//

324 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 10:17:31am

re: #318 wrenchwench

Meh, it’s Twitter—I don’t really care if they know or not.

325 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 10:17:57am

North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory says state’s $2.75 billion unemployment insurance debt to federal government paid off - @ABC11_WTVD
read more on abc11.com

Yeah, on he backs of the unemployed, when NC reduced the maximum amt to $350, and the number of weeks from 5-20, depending on a changed formula.

wral.com

“In July [2013], about 65,000 people who had been out of work for months lost their federal long-term jobless benefits because of state lawmakers’ decision to overhaul North Carolina’s unemployment system.
Read more at wral.com

326 Timothy Watson  May 5, 2015 10:18:43am

re: #321 allegro

I absolutely give this fine officer his due for his quick thinking and skill that likely prevented a lot of bloodshed both from the shooters as well as the SWAT team still inside the building. It is, however, pretty desperate to finally find a single good example out of countless tragic ones to say “See! Good guy with a gun!” to justify our sick gun culture.

And it’s an example that involves a trained police officer who has regularly training and recertification every year, not some yahoo who took an safety class online and got a concealed weapons permit.

327 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:18:55am

re: #319 Nyet

“Barabbas” purely coincidentally (aha) meaning “son of the father”.

And apparently in the original text his name was “Jesus”. So they had a choice between two Jesuses, sons of the father.

328 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 10:21:14am

re: #324 CuriousLurker

Meh, it’s Twitter—I don’t really care if they know or not.

You haven’t developed a close personal relationship with George Takei and all your other followees on Twitter?!?!? Some of them are sensitive!

329 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:21:25am

The gospel authors freely invented stories when they deemed necessary.

330 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 10:21:51am

re: #327 Nyet

And apparently in the original text his name was “Jesus”. So they had a choice between two Jesuses, sons of the father.

Jesus had a twin?

331 Kryptik  May 5, 2015 10:22:05am

re: #321 allegro

Especially since it likely came down more to a guard taking his duty and training seriously rather than the stupid and simplistic ‘he was a good guy with a gun’. Most of these yahoos fashion themselves as either Dirty Harry or fucking Robocop and believe if they ever met a ‘bad guy with a gun’ then they’d have pinpoint, unshakable aim and the kind of unerring cool to walk away from an explosion without looking back.

332 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:23:04am

re: #330 Lord Of The Pies

Jesus had a twin?

More of a doppelgänger.

333 Great White Snark  May 5, 2015 10:25:23am

re: #316 wrenchwench

To me, the distraction from the man’s skill and heroism is not the gun, but the fact that it occurred at an event designed to have such things happen. Sadly, ‘things went well’ for Geller.

I agree 100% that’s one of the most unfortunate events to ever hold. Truly despicable and irresponsible. Heh, no takers so far on my Pamela Geller caricature offer. Offered by way of turnabout.

334 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 10:25:27am

re: #332 Nyet

More of a doppelgänger.

He was the leader of the People’s Judean Front, not the Judean People’s Front.

335 Dr Lizardo  May 5, 2015 10:27:11am

re: #334 lawhawk

He was the leader of the People’s Judean Front, not the Judean People’s Front.

Ah, a “splitter”.

336 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 10:27:19am

re: #334 lawhawk

He was the leader of the People’s Judean Front, not the Judean People’s Front.

PEOPLE’S FRONT OF JUDEA!!!

337 Eventual Carrion  May 5, 2015 10:27:39am

re: #327 Nyet

And apparently in the original text his name was “Jesus”. So they had a choice between two Jesuses, sons of the father.

So Christ’s death could have been a clerical error.

338 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:28:41am

re: #337 Eventual Carrion

So Christ’s death could have been a clerical error.

Hehehe.

339 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 10:29:26am

re: #336 Lord Of The Pies

Heretic!!!!

340 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 10:29:50am

Your GOP in action.

341 Amory Blaine  May 5, 2015 10:30:37am

Has anyone actually read CCJs book on Calvin Coolidge? Did he even have the right president?

342 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:31:50am

re: #341 Amory Blaine

Has anyone actually read CCJs book on Calvin Coolidge? Did he even have the right president?

Not sure he’s read it.

343 Timothy Watson  May 5, 2015 10:33:09am

re: #336 Lord Of The Pies

Speaking of, just saw this on YouTube:
…

Sounds like a Tea Party rally…except the People’s Front of Judea is more honest.

344 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 10:33:44am
345 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 10:33:56am

re: #340 lawhawk

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Your GOP in action.

Such a hack.

346 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:34:09am

Dunno, I would like to read the story of Jesus’ redneck cousin, Jebus.

347 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 10:34:37am

Had a nice little lunch and chatted with one of the teachers who revealed that she, too, had been abandoned by her mother and raised by her father and grandmother and gfather. I was was the only gg-mother there, but there were other grandmothers filling in for moms working, including another grandmother whose son is raising his daughter. We celebrated mothers and grandmothers.

Had a good time talking to other women, strong women who take charge. Going to have to get those 2 teachers something really nice at the end of school. They’re lucky, though, kids that age are so endearing and beautiful and smart and they do an excellent job with them.

348 Eventual Carrion  May 5, 2015 10:34:49am

re: #341 Amory Blaine

Has anyone actually read CCJs book on Calvin Coolidge? Did he even have the right president?

Sure, his chapter recounting when Coolidge freed the slaves was moving.

349 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 10:35:23am

re: #344 Lord Of The Pies

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Just when you thought CCJ couldn’t be a more pathetic piece of shit, you read this. Heartbreaking.

350 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:35:43am

re: #344 Lord Of The Pies

OK, Chuck overdid himself this time. He seriously needs to go to jail.

351 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 10:35:49am

re: #348 Eventual Carrion

Sure, his chapter recounting when Coolidge freed the slaves was moving.

I liked the part where Coolidge got us out of the Great Depression.

352 RealityBasedSteve  May 5, 2015 10:36:06am

Had somebody tell me that “The Government is going to force Christian Preachers to marry gay couples, even if it violates their religious beliefs”.

I just looked at them and said “Yep, just like they force Orthodox Jewish Rabbis to perform marriages of mixed religious couples… oh wait, that doesn’t happen.”.

Their mouth just opened and closed a couple of times… then they walked off.

RBS

353 Kragar  May 5, 2015 10:36:17am

re: #329 Nyet

The gospel authors freely invented stories when they deemed necessary.

YOU MEAN THEY MADE SHIT UP?
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354 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 10:37:12am

re: #328 wrenchwench

You haven’t developed a close personal relationship with George Takei and all your other followees on Twitter?!?!? Some of them are sensitive!

LOL

355 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 10:37:14am

re: #352 RealityBasedSteve

Had somebody tell me that “The Government is going to force Christian Preachers to marry gay couples, even if it violates their religious beliefs”.

I just looked at them and said “Yep, just like they force Orthodox Jewish Rabbis to perform marriages of mixed religious couples… oh wait, that doesn’t happen.”.

Their mouth just opened and closed a couple of times… then they walked off.

RBS

I mean with SSM being legal in heavily Catholic states like Massachusetts, you think you would hear about a Catholic priest being forced to perform a SSM by now but nope. These people are just professional victims.

356 #FergusonFireside  May 5, 2015 10:37:37am

Not sure if posted, but Wesley Lowery wrote a column in WaPo about where the $$ for Tamir Rice’s family went and he calls out Chucky.

357 RealityBasedSteve  May 5, 2015 10:37:37am

re: #343 Timothy Watson

Speaking of, just saw this on YouTube:
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Sounds like a Tea Party rally…except the People’s Front of Judea is more honest.

I stand with the Judean People’s Front.

RBS

358 #FergusonFireside  May 5, 2015 10:38:04am

re: #344 Lord Of The Pies

Arrrgh! you are good Pie Lady!

359 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:39:02am

re: #353 Kragar

YOU MEAN THEY MADE SHIT UP?
///

It’s so obvious, and yet some historians continue to search for “historical truth” in the gospels.

360 Romantic Heretic  May 5, 2015 10:39:11am

re: #339 lawhawk

Heretic!!!!

And your point is? It’s my job, man. ;)

361 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:39:54am

re: #357 RealityBasedSteve

I stand with the Judean People’s Front.

RBS

Judea’s Front People are more to my liking. But the Front of the People of Judea is second best.

362 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 10:39:55am

re: #344 Lord Of The Pies

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Fucking Upchuck. I hope he never gets to grift another penny.

363 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 10:40:27am

re: #196 darthstar

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How I wish John Fugelsang had gotten the nod to take over when Jon Stewart leaves.

364 BigPapa  May 5, 2015 10:43:21am

The asinine yet inevitable comparison of Pam Geller to Charlie Hebdo got in full swing almost immediately.

Not as insane as Geller comparing herself to Rosa Parks.

365 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 10:43:38am

re: #352 RealityBasedSteve

Had somebody tell me that “The Government is going to force Christian Preachers to marry gay couples, even if it violates their religious beliefs”.

I just looked at them and said “Yep, just like they force Orthodox Jewish Rabbis to perform marriages of mixed religious couples… oh wait, that doesn’t happen.”.

Their mouth just opened and closed a couple of times… then they walked off.

RBS

Ironically, if there was an Established State Church (which the Constitution prohibits, but wingnuts would like to establish), like there is in the UK & Netherlands, clergy of that church would indeed be required to perform same sex marriage.

366 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 10:44:40am

re: #364 BigPapa

The asinine yet inevitable comparison of Pam Geller to Charlie Hebdo got in full swing almost immediately.

Not as insane as Geller comparing herself to Rosa Parks.

Everybody wants to be Rosa Parks but nobody wants to clean rich white folk’s houses for 25¢ an hour.

367 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:44:49am

re: #364 BigPapa

She seriously compared herself to Rosa Parks??

368 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 10:44:59am

re: #365 Lord Of The Pies

Ironically, if there was an Established State Church (which the Constitution prohibits, but wingnuts would like to establish), like there is in the UK & Netherlands, clergy of that church would indeed be required to perform same sex marriage.

Yep and that’s the irony of them wanting more church and state merging and why they ignore that some of the greatest proponents of separation of church and state have been religious people themselves.

369 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:45:32am

Dunno, for me Pamela Geller is David Duke in a skirt.

370 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 10:45:50am

re: #367 Nyet

She seriously compared herself to Rosa Parks??

Why not? Anti gay bigots liken themselves and their cause to the Civil Rights Movement all the time. Not a stretch for Pam to do that with Rosa Parks. These people take no actual lessons from the Civil Rights Movement.

371 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 10:47:09am

re: #369 Nyet

Dunno, for me Pamela Geller is David Duke in a skirt.

Nikki Griffin. Jean Marie(ha don’t even have to change the name) Le Pen, Georgette Halder.

372 BigPapa  May 5, 2015 10:48:14am

re: #367 Nyet

Geller goes Rosa Parks Sharia.

373 Lidane  May 5, 2015 10:49:55am

*facepalm*

I despise Walmart but the fact that they even have to point this out is ludicrous.

374 BigPapa  May 5, 2015 10:50:03am

I will not get to the back of the Sharia bus you savages!

375 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 10:51:02am

re: #373 Lidane

*facepalm*

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I despise Walmart but the fact that they even have to point this out is ludicrous.

376 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 10:51:08am

re: #373 Lidane

*facepalm*

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I despise Walmart but the fact that they even have to point this out is ludicrous.

WAL-MART IS ON IT!// FALSE FLAG.?? ALEX JONES. RAND PAUL.// Hope dipshit Abbott is proud of himself. Anything to appease the wingnut base eh Greggie?

377 Kragar  May 5, 2015 10:52:16am

re: #373 Lidane

*facepalm*

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I despise Walmart but the fact that they even have to point this out is ludicrous.

Oh, so you’re falling for Walmart’s lies as well?
/

378 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:53:10am

I don’t even know what Jade Helm is, except that it’s some military exercise or something. I’m a happy bunny 8)

379 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 10:59:23am

“octaroon”??? Who even says that anymore, except eejits.

He even misspells that.

380 Nyet  May 5, 2015 10:59:59am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

Racists.

381 Nyet  May 5, 2015 11:01:36am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

What I would expect e.g. Derbyshire to say.

382 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 11:02:21am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“octaroon”??? Who even says that anymore, except eejits.

He even misspells that.

Chuckles, your grandma called, she’s done knitting your robe.

383 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 11:02:35am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“octaroon”??? Who even says that anymore, except eejits.

He even misspells that.

Those are old slave-trading terms.

384 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 11:04:11am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“octaroon”??? Who even says that anymore, except eejits.

And it’s spelled Octoroon. Yeah, I had to Google it to figure out what the racist scumbag was even implying.

385 b_sharp  May 5, 2015 11:04:31am

what is an octaroon?

386 Nyet  May 5, 2015 11:04:52am

re: #383 Lord Of The Pies

He meant “Mischling”.

387 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 11:05:02am

re: #342 Nyet

Not sure he’s read it.

My only regret is I only have one upding to give…..

388 Snarknado!  May 5, 2015 11:05:23am

re: #385 b_sharp

what is an octaroon?

Someone who’s 1/8 black.

389 #FergusonFireside  May 5, 2015 11:05:40am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“octaroon”??? Who even says that anymore, except eejits.

He even misspells that.

PIG

390 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 11:05:41am

re: #385 b_sharp

what is an octaroon?

A person with 1/8 Black blood (one Black great-grandparent)

391 Ace-o-aces  May 5, 2015 11:05:44am

Oh, yeah. I’m sure CCJ was sooooo concerned with the welfare of the Rice family.

392 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 11:05:59am

re: #385 b_sharp

what is an octaroon?

Person with 1/8th black ancestry.

393 Kragar  May 5, 2015 11:06:47am
394 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 11:06:52am

Remember when this guy was the most extreme far right-winger in the Republican party?

395 b_sharp  May 5, 2015 11:07:40am

re: #388 Snarknado!

Someone who’s 1/8 black.

So another bit of evidence that shows there’s no ‘supposedly’ about Chuckie’s racism. It’s all hanging out.

396 allegro  May 5, 2015 11:07:57am

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“octaroon”??? Who even says that anymore, except eejits.

He even misspells that.

Is he referring to the murdered boy’s mother? The person the people donating money intended it to go to?

397 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 11:08:03am

Chuckles probably believes in the one drop rule.

398 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 11:08:47am

Maybe Chucky should send his resume to NRO. I hear they’re hiring.

399 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 11:08:58am

Perfect date? Guaranteed rape-free!!!

She’s locked and I’m loaded!!!
400 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 11:08:59am

re: #396 allegro

Is her referring to the murdered boy’s mother? The person the people donating money intended it to go to?

He’s referring to Shaun King.

401 RealityBasedSteve  May 5, 2015 11:09:02am

re: #385 b_sharp

what is an octaroon?

It’s a cookie that’s 1/8th coconut.

RBS

402 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 11:09:21am
403 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 11:09:29am
Peekaboo!

Elevator core on the new Comcast Tower II in Philadelphia going up. Gap showing dome of church on the far side that is in front of the already built Comcast Tower. The church will shortly pretty much be surrounded by tall buildings.

(The new construction site was formerly a parking lot. A lot of people walking down 19th Street would stop and take pictures of the church back framed and reflected by the Comcast Tower.)

404 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 11:09:30am

re: #397 HappyWarrior

Chuckles probably believes in the one drop rule.

He drinks much more than one drop, he drinks enough to drop.

405 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 11:09:48am

re: #344 Lord Of The Pies

This ought to be good, since Wesley Lowery and Shaun King are two of upchuck’s biggest targets. He’ll be doxxing and foaming at the mouth for weeks.

406 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 11:09:59am

re: #404 Lord Of The Pies

He drinks much more than one drop, he drinks enough to drop.

Nice one.

407 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 11:10:28am
408 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 11:10:42am

re: #399 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Perfect date? Guaranteed rape-free!!!

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Nope.

409 retired cynic  May 5, 2015 11:10:59am

re: #364 BigPapa

The asinine yet inevitable comparison of Pam Geller to Charlie Hebdo got in full swing almost immediately.

Not as insane as Geller comparing herself to Rosa Parks.

Don’t know if anyone has posted the Rude Pundit’s take on Geller, but it is NSFW!

rudepundit.blogspot.com

410 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 11:11:17am

re: #395 b_sharp

So another bit of evidence that shows there’s no ‘supposedly’ about Chuckie’s racism. It’s all hanging out.

My opinion is that Chuckie is just following that trail in search of publicity, grift, and patronage. All Chuckie believes in truly is Chuckie.

He’s the Twitter equivalent of a monkey throwing poo since it draws attention.

411 Nyet  May 5, 2015 11:11:31am

He’s running around his twitter account, hair on fire. This Lowery piece got him by the jewels.

412 Dr. Matt  May 5, 2015 11:11:33am

re: #399 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Who in their right mind would date a left-handed person?

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413 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 11:12:07am

re: #393 Kragar

Obviously all these tweets are false flags to make Obama put all Christians in FEMA camps.

//

414 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 5, 2015 11:12:33am

re: #394 Lord Of The Pies

Remember when this guy was the most extreme far right-winger in the Republican party?

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Remember? Yes. I can even remember when Richard Milhaus Nixon was set to propose UHC.

415 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 11:12:37am

re: #412 Dr. Matt

Who in their right mind would date a left-handed person?

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Hey now. Really though that’s a perfect date?

416 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 11:13:02am

re: #414 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Remember? Yes. I can even remember when Richard Milhaus Nixon was set to propose UHC.

I’m “old” enough to remember when Bob Dole was considered a conservative.

417 RealityBasedSteve  May 5, 2015 11:13:12am

re: #412 Dr. Matt

Who in their right mind would date a left-handed person?

///

Since it’s the right side of the brain that controls the left side of the body, really only left-handers could be considered “right-minded”. (and I’m not a southpaw BTW)

RBS

418 Dave In Austin  May 5, 2015 11:13:16am

re: #393 Kragar

Damn!!! Ms. Soledad is in the house!!

419 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 11:14:05am

Wow he’s Sofa King dumb, he doesn’t even know it was Tim Kucharski who set up the first fundraiser and skimmed “legal fees” off the top.

420 Nyet  May 5, 2015 11:14:38am

Chucky should party with Pam. A severe alcohol poisoning is inevitable.

421 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 11:14:59am

re: #419 Lord Of The Pies

Wow he’s Sofa King dumb, he doesn’t even know it was Tim Kucharski who set up the first fundraiser and skimmed “legal fees” off the top.

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He doesn’t give a crap about fraud or Tamir Rice. He just cares about his own ego. He’s a pathetic little shit who if there were any justice in the world would be picking up shit for a living.

422 Dr. Matt  May 5, 2015 11:15:16am

re: #411 Nyet

He’s running around his twitter account, hair on fire. This Lowery piece got him by the jewels.

Don’t let him kid you, CCJ loves the attention.

423 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 11:15:21am

re: #420 Nyet

Chucky should party with Pam. A severe alcohol poisoning is inevitable.

Who passes out first?

424 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 11:15:47am

You know, the funniest part of all of this is that UpChuck is confirming every word about what he did is true. WaPo does credit UpChuck for his efforts in what happened to fundraiser:

425 Timothy Watson  May 5, 2015 11:15:57am

re: #419 Lord Of The Pies

Wow he’s Sofa King dumb, he doesn’t even know it was Tim Kucharski who set up the first fundraiser and skimmed “legal fees” off the top.

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The sound you hear? Shaun King filing a libel lawsuit and winning.

426 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 11:17:14am

re: #409 retired cynic

Don’t know if anyone has posted the Rude Pundit’s take on Geller, but it is NSFW!

rudepundit.blogspot.com

Oh, harsh, but I like that he calls her outfit “DICKS”.

427 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 11:17:17am

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

You know, the funniest part of all of this is that UpChuck is confirming every word about what he did is true. WaPo does credit UpChuck for his efforts in what happened to fundraiser:

Serial con artist? Yup, sounds like Chucky.

428 Nyet  May 5, 2015 11:17:34am

re: #422 Dr. Matt

There are times when he relishes it, but I don’t think this is one of those times.

429 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 11:17:55am

re: #419 Lord Of The Pies

Wow he’s Sofa King dumb, he doesn’t even know it was Tim Kucharski who set up the first fundraiser and skimmed “legal fees” off the top.

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And he apparently didn’t read anything (except that his name was in it—yay) in the article, because the fact that the money went to the estate was the main fucking problem.

430 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 11:18:43am

re: #425 Timothy Watson

The sound you hear? Shaun King filing a libel lawsuit and winning.

That would assume there’s any money to be had from suing. Unless there’s deep pockets we don’t know about, suing CCJ for libel would be an empty gesture.

After all, CCJ has been threatening to sue a bunch of ppl for lying, but hasn’t gotten off the couch to do any of it. Mostly because it costs money to do it. Well, the money is lacking AND facts/truth are an absolute defense in libel/slander/defamation cases (and the discovery process would be hilarious to the casual observer).

431 makeitstop  May 5, 2015 11:19:04am

re: #409 retired cynic

Don’t know if anyone has posted the Rude Pundit’s take on Geller, but it is NSFW!

rudepundit.blogspot.com

Well, damn.

432 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 11:19:36am

Missouri lawmakers override veto of bill cutting welfare benefits for thousands of families - @AP
end of alert

Next: The evictions.

433 Kragar  May 5, 2015 11:19:47am

re: #419 Lord Of The Pies

434 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 11:20:15am

BREAKING: #Ferguson Activist Shaun King Accused of Stealing From…
By Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson
Professional activist Shaun King stands accused of stealing money from the family of Tamir Rice, Gotnews dot com has learned…

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. (fixed it for him)

435 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 11:20:59am
436 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 11:21:14am

Luckily, I filled up yesterday when it was $2.15; it’s $2.29/gal today.

Oil tops $60 a barrel for first time in 2015 - @WPTZ
read more on wptz.com

437 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 11:21:27am

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

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For someone who has 20 or so supposed lawsuits going at any given time, he really doesn’t have clue fucking one as to what libel is.

438 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 11:21:29am

re: #435 Lord Of The Pies

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Scumbag.

439 RealityBasedSteve  May 5, 2015 11:22:01am

re: #430 lawhawk

That would assume there’s any money to be had from suing. Unless there’s deep pockets we don’t know about, suing CCJ for libel would be an empty gesture.

After all, CCJ has been threatening to sue a bunch of ppl for lying, but hasn’t gotten off the couch to do any of it. Mostly because it costs money to do it. Well, the money is lacking AND facts/truth are an absolute defense in libel/slander/defamation cases (and the discovery process would be hilarious to the casual observer).

He’s got those lawsuits all ready to file, and once he can get a new printer cartridge, they are getting printed… really… if he’s got some paper that is.

RBS

440 Eventual Carrion  May 5, 2015 11:23:49am

re: #385 b_sharp

what is an octaroon?

A mushroom that has been left out to dry for 8 days.

441 Kryptik  May 5, 2015 11:25:30am

re: #432 Justanotherhuman

Sheer bloodless, compassionless bullshit. And yet it’s the exact same story in god knows how many goddamn states at this rate, and getting worse by the day, because the GOP pretty much owns the entire fucking country at the state and local level.

442 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 11:26:08am

re: #381 Nyet

What I would expect e.g. Derbyshire to say.

Maybe that’s where he got it. I saw several retweets yesterday of him saying he’d read some of Derbyshire’s essasy. He seemed impressed.

He seems to be trying out different personas to see which one, if any, will get him the most attention.

443 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 11:26:26am

re: #440 Eventual Carrion

A mushroom that has been left out to dry for 8 days.

Octaroon sounds a little like Moran, which is what CCJ is.

444 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 11:26:43am

Ben, stick to separating conjoined twins. Kthxbai.

445 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 11:27:17am

re: #432 Justanotherhuman

Missouri lawmakers override veto of bill cutting welfare benefits for thousands of families - @AP
end of alert

Next: The evictions.

Classy. Liberty. Freedom. Family Values.

/

446 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 11:28:47am

re: #444 Lord Of The Pies

Ben, stick to separating conjoined twins. Kthxbai.

The rich can pocket the extra tax cuts and invest that money overseas, which will help all of us.

///

447 darthstar  May 5, 2015 11:29:30am

The Oatmeal’s dogs as middle-aged men.
Image: doorbell.png

448 Jenner7  May 5, 2015 11:30:43am

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

They are taking credit for a failed attack?

Um, okay.

449 darthstar  May 5, 2015 11:31:24am

re: #436 Justanotherhuman

Luckily, I filled up yesterday when it was $2.15; it’s $2.29/gal today.

Oil tops $60 a barrel for first time in 2015 - @WPTZ
read more on wptz.com

Gas jumped up to $3.89 here. I got Diesel yesterday for $3.14 though…but it’s weird having to pay more for gas than diesel - not that the opposite ever made sense.

They’re just charging whatever the fuck they want right now.

450 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 11:31:52am

re: #435 Lord Of The Pies

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I just looked at the document.
It appears the 4 hours were n/c (listed for 12/3/2014).
Scribd Document

451 Dr. Matt  May 5, 2015 11:32:16am

re: #436 Justanotherhuman

Luckily, I filled up yesterday when it was $2.15; it’s $2.29/gal today.

Oil tops $60 a barrel for first time in 2015 - @WPTZ
read more on wptz.com

Thanks Obama

452 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 11:33:02am

re: #448 Jenner7

They are taking credit for a failed attack?

Um, okay.

Was this attack really planned in advance by ISIS or are they just taking credit by association?

But for that, the RW media is already touting it as the “first ISIS attack on US soil”

And thus, Obama’s fault

453 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 11:35:36am
454 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 11:35:54am

re: #453 Charles Johnson

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and spell it wrong.

455 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 11:36:11am

This is great.

456 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 11:37:59am

re: #448 Jenner7

They are taking credit for a failed attack?

Um, okay.

Name recognition—free publicity. Their “brand” is already in the toilet with sane people, but I’m pretty sure that’s not their target audience.

They want their name attached to anything that’s scary or extreme. It undoubtedly gives them additional street creds among those with the jihadi mindset (perhaps even inspiring others), and they know the RWNJs want a redux of the Crusades, so they’ll happily help with the scaremongering.

457 Nyet  May 5, 2015 11:38:03am

re: #452 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If the terrorists pledged to ISIS, it is, technically speaking, an ISIS attack, but of course not in the sense that somebody from ME organized it.

458 Dave In Austin  May 5, 2015 11:38:26am

“Without you I am nothing”

// LOL!

459 Jenner7  May 5, 2015 11:38:37am

re: #373 Lidane

Oh, phew! I was worried.

460 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 11:39:04am

re: #441 Kryptik

And in NC, the Rats have decimated unemployment insurance, also. The top amt was reduced $200 to $350/wk and the time shortened to from 5-20 wks, plus going through hoops to get anything.

No jobs? Tough shitsky, they’re telling people.

461 Romantic Heretic  May 5, 2015 11:40:21am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

Who passes out first?

Who would first decide that the other isn’t hateful enough and resort to violence?

462 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 11:40:22am

BWHAHA. Another GOPer who would complain about the ACA website not working right finds their presidential website sputtering with problems at launch. Of course, I’m now referring to Huckabee.

463 Nyet  May 5, 2015 11:40:38am

re: #461 Romantic Heretic

Who would first decide that the other isn’t hateful enough and resort to violence?

Both.

464 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 11:41:13am

re: #460 Justanotherhuman

And in NC, the Rats have decimated unemployment insurance, also. The top amt was reduced $200 to $350/wk and the time shortened to from 5-20 wks, plus going through hoops to get anything.

No jobs? Tough shitsky, they’re telling people.

If they only abolished minimum wage, there would be no end to jobs…

465 Jenner7  May 5, 2015 11:41:30am

Ha! Yup. I also love when they are trying to have a conversation with you while you’re in the shower. I hope they never ask for a car or something, cause I’m like, “uh huh, sure.”

466 Nyet  May 5, 2015 11:41:53am

BG2, here I come! (After 10 years or so, not finishing it the first time.)

467 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 11:42:24am

re: #455 Justanotherhuman

I knew about Deray’s accomplishments, but didn’t realize he’s also gay.

The one person I follow pretty exclusively to find out what’s going on in these protests since I discovered him.

468 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 11:42:27am

re: #462 lawhawk

BWHAHA. Another GOPer who would complain about the ACA website not working right finds their presidential website sputtering with problems at launch. Of course, I’m now referring to Huckabee.

LOL, so it wasn’t just temporary, huh?

469 Romantic Heretic  May 5, 2015 11:43:54am

re: #432 Justanotherhuman

Missouri lawmakers override veto of bill cutting welfare benefits for thousands of families - @AP
end of alert

Next: The evictions.

There’s that damned song in my head again.

…

470 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 11:45:03am

re: #468 CuriousLurker

It’s up, but who the heck thought it was good to have him smirking/duckfaced ? That’s just an awful visual if you’re trying to convince people he’s the right guy for them.

471 No Country For Old Haters  May 5, 2015 11:46:23am

re: #432 Justanotherhuman

Missouri lawmakers override veto of bill cutting welfare benefits for thousands of families - @AP
end of alert

Next: The evictions.

There’s a reason that the locals call the state “Misery.”

472 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 11:46:38am

Shit. An hour ago.

Truck flips over on exit of turnpike. This will be on news and in praying that whoever was driving made it out on time. #njturnpike #newjersey

instagram.com

473 RealityBasedSteve  May 5, 2015 11:46:59am

re: #468 CuriousLurker

LOL, so it wasn’t just temporary, huh?

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Looks like a fine Template Based WIX website for a very small business getting their first web presence.

Oh wait…. that’s for a major political figure, running for the presidential nomination…. my bad.

RBS

474 retired cynic  May 5, 2015 11:48:45am

re: #473 RealityBasedSteve

Looks like a fine Template Based WIX website for a very small business getting their first web presence.

Oh wait…. that’s for a major political figure, running for the presidential nomination…. my bad.

RBS

Sounds like another just in for the grift.

475 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 11:50:10am

re: #472 Justanotherhuman

They’re saying that the driver is in critical condition. Southbound NJT exit interchange 11 is closed to traffic. The tanker truck overturned on the ramp from the southbound NJT truck lanes. Fire departments are also dealing with brush fires started by the same incident.

476 Kragar  May 5, 2015 11:50:32am
477 A Cranky One  May 5, 2015 11:51:00am

re: #468 CuriousLurker

LOL, so it wasn’t just temporary, huh?

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If I wasn’t so busy, I’d be tempted to hack the site just to force it to return this HTTP error:

418 I’m a teapot (RFC 2324)
This code was defined in 1998 as one of the traditional IETF April Fools’ jokes, in RFC 2324, Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol, and is not expected to be implemented by actual HTTP servers. The RFC specifies this code should be returned by tea pots requested to brew coffee.

478 Nyet  May 5, 2015 11:51:46am

Texas will be a gay cakewalk.

479 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 11:52:43am

Go fuck yourselves, GOP.

Missouri lawmakers override veto to enact welfare limits
Law will reduce Missouri’s lifetime limit for assistance program

kmbc.com

Find a job. Good luck with that.

“Supporters said the measure would encourage people on welfare to find a job and get off government assistance. About 3,000 families will lose benefits - which are capped at $292 a month for a parent with two children - because of the lower lifetime limit, according to Department of Social Services estimates.

“The law will make Missouri among the top 10 states for the shortest duration of benefits.

(snip)

“An additional 6,600 families could lose benefits through sanctions for not complying with work requirements, according to estimates by the Social Services Department. Individuals would have six weeks after a face-to-face meeting with a social worker before losing half of the family’s benefits. All benefits would be cut off after an additional 10 weeks.” More

480 Eventual Carrion  May 5, 2015 11:53:30am

re: #419 Lord Of The Pies

Wow he’s Sofa King dumb, he doesn’t even know it was Tim Kucharski who set up the first fundraiser and skimmed “legal fees” off the top.

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Wonder what Dana gets for setting up those accounts for cake makers and other bigots?

481 Nyet  May 5, 2015 11:53:30am

Wow.

…

482 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 11:53:36am

re: #468 CuriousLurker

LOL, so it wasn’t just temporary, huh?

There’s a few camels stuck into the eye of the needle trying to get into that extra-large GOP circus tent.
//

483 danarchy  May 5, 2015 11:54:33am

re: #435 Lord Of The Pies

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He’s obviously never dealt with lawyers before…

484 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 11:56:29am

re: #479 Justanotherhuman

“The law will make Missouri among the top 10 states for the shortest duration of benefits.

And the GOP assholes are proud of that. Ugh.

485 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 11:56:34am

re: #477 A Cranky One

If I wasn’t so busy, I’d be tempted to hack the site just to force it to return this HTTP error:

418 I’m a teapot (RFC 2324)
This code was defined in 1998 as one of the traditional IETF April Fools’ jokes, in RFC 2324, Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol, and is not expected to be implemented by actual HTTP servers. The RFC specifies this code should be returned by tea pots requested to brew coffee.

LOL! I’d never heard of that before.

486 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 11:57:22am
487 Kragar  May 5, 2015 11:57:41am
488 Dr Lizardo  May 5, 2015 11:58:29am

re: #452 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Was this attack really planned in advance by ISIS or are they just taking credit by association?

But for that, the RW media is already touting it as the “first ISIS attack on US soil”

And thus, Obama’s fault

Seems to me it’s just ISIS jumping on the bandwagon.

489 Skip Intro  May 5, 2015 11:58:36am

carlyfiorina.org

490 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 12:01:00pm

Here’s my preliminary spreadsheet on the candidates. I’ll update it whenever someone announces or drops out.

491 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:01:07pm

re: #489 Skip Intro

carlyfiorina.org

492 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 12:01:11pm

re: #488 Dr Lizardo

Seems to me it’s just ISIS jumping on the bandwagon.

It’s ISIS taking advantage of our media being jackals and most of the viewers being idiots who accept the pablum at face value.
///

493 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 12:02:37pm

re: #488 Dr Lizardo

Seems to me it’s just ISIS jumping on the bandwagon.

Exactly: “Oh, we can have our name in the media again? We’ll take it!”

494 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:03:17pm

And there’s a great demon sheep in the source code too:

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           ww      ww

495 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 12:04:26pm

re: #494 Nyet

And there’s a great demon sheep in the source code too:

<!— Demon sheep _.,._ .~`, `~. /{_, ` ,_} // ( / ) (/_/| @ @ |_) {`-. | | { _ ,- ” /-, {_; { `—u—` , } `{ {` , (^) ` `} { {` ~~~ `} { { , ` ` , ` } { { , } `{ `{ , ` }` { {~, `. , ~} |-{ }_{ , } | |{ , }`|-{ }` |~| |~| | | | | | | | | w| | ww| | ww ww

Nice feet!!

496 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 12:05:13pm
497 Dr Lizardo  May 5, 2015 12:05:37pm

re: #492 Feline Fearless Leader

re: #493 CuriousLurker

If there was some way they could plausibly pull it off - and not end up looking like complete imbeciles - they’d probably try to take credit for natural disasters.

Some jihadist group did, a few years ago; they took credit for an earthquake. Needless to say, everyone laughed at them, and I would imagine that likely included some of their fellow jihadists.

498 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 12:07:24pm

Aliens are coming back!

499 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 12:07:26pm

Sure, whatever you say, UpChuck:

500 Dr. Matt  May 5, 2015 12:07:43pm
501 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 12:08:00pm

re: #493 CuriousLurker

Exactly: “Oh, we can have our name in the media again? We’ll take it!”

I’m awaiting ISIS claiming credit for one (or more) of the GOP clowns throwing their hat into the ring.

“Look at how we are destroying the Great Satan from the inside!”
///

502 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 12:08:07pm

re: #498 wrenchwench

It looks like Casper!

503 Iwouldprefernotto  May 5, 2015 12:08:46pm

re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sure, whatever you say, UpChuck:

I didn’t use a racial slur today. Octaroon isn’t a slur

Today is the key word,

504 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:09:11pm

re: #495 wrenchwench

YOU CRUSHED IT!!!

505 Skip Intro  May 5, 2015 12:09:38pm

The wonderful Twitter.

How someone spent “pennies” to troll women, people of color via promoted tweets

Games system to “generate negative reactions to ad campaigns,” overcomes blocks.

arstechnica.com

506 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 12:10:38pm

re: #496 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gohmert! Aways waiting in the wings to be the asshat walk on.

507 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 12:10:47pm

Mike Huckabee announced his run Tuesday morning at an event in his doubly symbolic birthplace of Hope, Arkansas. Naturally, Huckabee’s announcement featured the hottest and most relevant entertainment:

Tony Orlando performing a song in Hope he wrote for Mike Huckabee called “America is my hometown.”

(Ted Nugent was unavailable for comment screech.)

dailykos.com

508 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 12:10:48pm

re: #502 Backwoods_Sleuth

It looks like Casper!

Maybe he has a bus to catch.

509 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 12:11:20pm
510 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 12:12:28pm

re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sure, whatever you say, UpChuck:

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Octaroon isn’t a slur.

Nor is it a word, upchuck.

511 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 12:12:36pm
512 Timothy Watson  May 5, 2015 12:12:48pm

re: #498 wrenchwench

Aliens are coming back!

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Sovereign, flying upside down?

513 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 12:12:52pm

re: #509 Charles Johnson

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514 Varek Raith  May 5, 2015 12:13:50pm

re: #513 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Keep on digging, Chuck.

515 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:14:14pm

OK, but is it a trap?

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516 No Country For Old Haters  May 5, 2015 12:14:22pm

re: #513 Backwoods_Sleuth

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517 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 12:14:37pm
“You can’t buy every domain name,” she added. “You just can’t. Maybe we should have tried, but we didn’t.”

For Fuck’s Sake, yourownname.com,org,net,biz,info,porn HOW HARD IS THAT?

518 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 12:14:59pm

re: #513 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A word may be old fashioned because it is offensive and has fallen into disuse (by normal humans.)

519 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 12:15:01pm

re: #513 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So he means he can use NiClang! freely?

Idiot. He’s just paving the way to do that.

520 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:15:09pm

re: #509 Charles Johnson

oxforddictionaries.com

Definition of octoroon in English:
noun

dated or offensive
A person who is one-eighth black by descent.

521 No Country For Old Haters  May 5, 2015 12:15:36pm

re: #513 Backwoods_Sleuth

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522 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 12:15:55pm

re: #479 Justanotherhuman

About 3,000 families will lose benefits - which are capped at $292 a month for a parent with two children

Yeah I’m sure that $292/month is stopping people from working, GOP.

523 Kragar  May 5, 2015 12:15:56pm
524 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 12:16:19pm

re: #511 lawhawk

Yeah, you’d think they’d at least buy the three traditional top-level domains of .com, .org and .net. Hell, most registrars even offer that option right before or during check-out. *smh*

525 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:16:49pm

re: #520 Nyet

The examples in the Oxford dictionary are illuminating:

He has no trouble referring to ‘full-bloods’, ‘half-castes’, ‘octoroons’.

When Ellen was reading stories of old New Orleans, the concept of ‘mulattos’ and ‘octoroons’ prompted her to curious questions.

Yes, in the American south well past the days of slavery, you could find references to maroons, quadroons, octoroons, etc.

526 Varek Raith  May 5, 2015 12:16:52pm

re: #517 Lord Of The Pies

For Fuck’s Sake, yourownname.com,org,net,biz,info,porn HOW HARD IS THAT?

IT’S TEH HARD.

527 Skip Intro  May 5, 2015 12:17:41pm

re: #524 CuriousLurker

The only thing Fiorina is running for is paid speaker slots at RWNJ conventions.

528 Timothy Watson  May 5, 2015 12:17:42pm

re: #518 wrenchwench

A word may be old fashioned because it is offensive and has fallen into disuse (by normal humans.)

A pretty obscure word nowadays too. I wasn’t familiar with the term, and I like to think I have a pretty broad vocabulary (I am familiar with “mulatto”).

529 blueraven  May 5, 2015 12:18:01pm

re: #511 lawhawk

Carly Fiorina on failing to buy carlyfiorina.org : “You can’t buy every domain name” hill.cm pic.twitter.com

OK granted, maybe not every imaginable crazy-ass domain name…but carlyfiorina.org is pretty damn obvious.

Oh yeah, she is soooo tech savvy and a great businesswoman too.///

530 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 12:18:26pm

re: #527 Skip Intro

The only thing Fiorina is running for is paid speaker slots at RWNJ conventions.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s what about half of them are doing.

531 Kragar  May 5, 2015 12:18:28pm

re: #513 Backwoods_Sleuth

532 Skip Intro  May 5, 2015 12:19:06pm

re: #530 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s what about half of them are doing.

That and a couple of million from the Koch brothers.

533 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 12:19:08pm

bwahahahaaaaa:

534 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 12:19:11pm

re: #526 Varek Raith

IT’S TEH HARD.

But she’s a tech CEO!

Oh right, she assigned that task to one of the IT staff AND THEN OUTSOURCED THE JOB.

535 Timothy Watson  May 5, 2015 12:19:53pm

re: #511 lawhawk

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Running the campaign on a shoestring? It’s like $15 per domain, downgrade to coach one flight and you’re good.

536 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 12:19:55pm

re: #528 Timothy Watson

A pretty obscure word nowadays too. I wasn’t familiar with the term, and I like to think I have a pretty broad vocabulary (I am familiar with “mulatto”).

Maybe I am closer to some racists. I worked for a woman whose racist relatives called her granddaughter an ‘octaroon’.

537 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:19:58pm

re: #528 Timothy Watson

And I just realized Bugs Bunny is probably a giant racist bunny.

538 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 12:20:08pm

Chuck knows very well it’s a racist term.

539 Varek Raith  May 5, 2015 12:20:18pm

Aaaaand…
The AC doesn’t work.
Every frikkin year…

540 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 12:20:43pm

re: #524 CuriousLurker

That’s the stunning part of this.

She’s been around the Internet and top level ppl for decades (she was at AT&T before going to HP), so it’s not like she didn’t know how the Internet works, or how ICANN operates, or how people who want to maintain a public presence online might want to obtain their own names for future use (.com, .org,.net,.biz,.info,.porn) to protect their future intentions.

Or if someone else is squatting on the site, to then go to arbitration or buy them off the site. She did none of the above, letting someone else have the site and establish the presence.

541 Skip Intro  May 5, 2015 12:20:46pm

re: #533 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaaaa:

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Now that’s actionable.

It’s in your corner, Shaun.

542 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:21:51pm

re: #539 Varek Raith

Aaaaand…
The AC doesn’t work.
Every frikkin year…

You can’t get your AC to work, how are you gonna conquer the Earth?

543 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 12:21:52pm

re: #533 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaaaa:

From his guy in the Rice camp.

//

544 Kragar  May 5, 2015 12:21:59pm

re: #539 Varek Raith

Aaaaand…
The AC doesn’t work.
Every frikkin year…

They can have it fixed by October

545 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 12:22:15pm

re: #513 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

A word isn’t offensive merely because it’s old fashioned.
 —upchuck

His use of it certainly fits his views on race—funny how that happens.

The use of such terminology is a characteristic of hypodescent, which is the practice within a society of assigning children of mixed unions to the ethnic group which is perceived by the dominant group as being subordinate.

546 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 12:22:19pm

re: #534 Lord Of The Pies

I doubt “The Greatest Female CEO Living” even knows what “profit & loss” means and how that occurs.

547 No Country For Old Haters  May 5, 2015 12:23:09pm

re: #538 Charles Johnson

Chuck knows very well it’s a racist term.

Maybe not. He’s totally delusional on so many topics, why not on this one too? He’s highly-motivated to never engage with reality, since his world would instantly crumble. He prefers a slow-motion public crash and burn.

548 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 12:23:34pm
549 Dr. Matt  May 5, 2015 12:23:46pm

And just yesterday upchuck was whining that to President Obama the only color that matters is Black…and yet, upchuck keeps posting about it.

550 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 12:23:47pm

re: #519 Justanotherhuman

So he means he can use NiClang! freely?

Idiot. He’s just paving the way to do that.

I asked him about that. Not expecting an answer.

551 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:24:02pm

“Octoroon” - especially from Chuck - sounds like a horse or a dog breed.

552 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 12:24:14pm

re: #545 BeachDem

That one drop rule.

553 No Country For Old Haters  May 5, 2015 12:24:57pm

re: #537 Nyet

And I just realized Bugs Bunny is probably a giant racist bunny.

Oh yes.

554 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 12:24:59pm

re: #551 Nyet

“Octoroon” - especially from Chuck - sounds like a horse or a dog breed.

Or a litter of eight.

555 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:25:00pm

re: #551 Nyet

“Octoroon” - especially from Chuck - sounds like a horse or a dog breed.

That I assume was what the original intent of the people who came up with the word in the first place was. Dehumanization.

556 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:26:16pm

He knows damn well that he was going for a slur when saying that about Shaun. He can claim “old fashioned” all he wants but no one our age uses that word. He’s just an antebellum bigot trapped in the body of a 26 year old man.

557 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 12:27:06pm

re: #535 Timothy Watson

Running the campaign on a shoestring? It’s like $15 per domain, downgrade to coach one flight and you’re good.

Hell, even less than that. I moved all my domains away from GoDaddy, but they’re constantly having sales starting as low as 99¢. My my new registrar charges $10.99 for new registrations.

558 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 12:27:35pm

re: #533 Backwoods_Sleuth

bwahahahaaaaa:

CONFIRMED FACT, LIBTARDS!!.

559 RealityBasedSteve  May 5, 2015 12:27:44pm

re: #494 Nyet

And there’s a great demon sheep in the source code too:

<!— Demon sheep _.,._ .~`, `~. /{_, ` ,_} // ( / ) (/_/| @ @ |_) {`-. | | { _ ,- ” /-, {_; { `—u—` , } `{ {` , (^) ` `} { {` ~~~ `} { { , ` ` , ` } { { , } `{ `{ , ` }` { {~, `. , ~} |-{ }_{ , } | |{ , }`|-{ }` |~| |~| | | | | | | | | w| | ww| | ww ww

Wouldn’t that technically be a daemon sheep?

560 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:27:52pm

Confirmed. Chuck is still an asshole.

561 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 12:30:21pm

re: #546 Justanotherhuman

I doubt “The Greatest Female CEO Living” even knows what “profit & loss” means and how that occurs.

There’s a meme going around of her saying MOAR TAX CUTS CREATES TEH JERBS!!!!! I’m like did she actually really say that?

Yeah she did.

562 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 12:31:32pm

re: #333 Great White Snark

I agree 100% that’s one of the most unfortunate events to ever hold. Truly despicable and irresponsible. Heh, no takers so far on my Pamela Geller caricature offer. Offered by way of turnabout.

Hey! Give me some time.

563 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 12:33:54pm

re: #556 HappyWarrior

He knows damn well that he was going for a slur when saying that about Shaun. He can claim “old fashioned” all he wants but no one our age uses that word. He’s just an antebellum bigot trapped in the body of a 26 year old man.

And, as I can’t wrap my brain around the mind of mush that is upchuck, what was the purpose of calling Shaun that in the first place? Was upchuck implying that Shaun isn’t black enough or that he isn’t white enough or what?

564 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 12:37:10pm

re: #542 Nyet

You can’t get your AC to work, how are you gonna conquer the Earth?

Other option is just to settle for the kaboom. A simple Earth-shattering kaboom.
/

565 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:37:58pm

re: #563 BeachDem

And, as I can’t wrap my brain around the mind of mush that is upchuck, what was the purpose of calling Shaun that in the first place? Was upchuck implying that Shaun isn’t black enough or that he isn’t white enough or what?

He’s just being his usual asshole himself. Not sure though. I think he thinks he’s just being “clever” when in reality he sounds like a 19th century slave trader.

566 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 12:38:07pm

re: #546 Justanotherhuman

I doubt “The Greatest Female CEO Living” even knows what “profit & loss” means and how that occurs.

Only in conjunction with the terms “privatize” and “publicize”.
//

567 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 12:38:17pm

re: #540 lawhawk

She’s been around the Internet and top level ppl for decades (she was at AT&T before going to HP), so it’s not like she didn’t know how the Internet works, or how ICANN operates, or how people who want to maintain a public presence online might want to obtain their own names for future use (.com, .org,.net,.biz,.info,.porn) to protect their future intentions.

Ugh, I’d forgotten about some of the new domain extensions. Yeah, if you’re a public figure—especially a woman—you probably want to register the .porn & .xxx versions of your name (maybe the .adult version too). Also .sucks will be launching on June 1. Things could get interesting.

568 Timothy Watson  May 5, 2015 12:40:44pm

re: #567 CuriousLurker

Ugh, I’d forgotten about some of the new domain extensions. Yeah, if you’re a public figure—especially a woman—you probably want to register the .porn & .xxx versions of your name Maybe the .adult version too). Also .sucks will be launching on June 1. Things could get interesting.

.sucks? That’s just unbelievable to me. Someone should get this domain quick:
nic.sucks

569 Kid A  May 5, 2015 12:45:14pm

Texas Senate bans abortion coverage in insurance plans.
m.chron.com

570 No Country For Old Haters  May 5, 2015 12:55:36pm

re: #569 Kid A

Texas Senate bans abortion coverage in insurance plans.
m.chron.com

Are they going to compensate insurance companies and people with unwanted children for all the expense their fanaticism created? of course not.

571 danarchy  May 5, 2015 1:01:32pm

re: #567 CuriousLurker

Ugh, I’d forgotten about some of the new domain extensions. Yeah, if you’re a public figure—especially a woman—you probably want to register the .porn & .xxx versions of your name (maybe the .adult version too). Also .sucks will be launching on June 1. Things could get interesting.

with gTLD almost anything can be used as a top level domain, however for a small fee you can protect a trademark across all of them.

newgtlds.icann.org

572 CuriousLurker  May 5, 2015 1:09:04pm

re: #571 danarchy

with gTLD almost anything can be used as a top level domain, however for a small fee you can protect a trademark across all of them.

newgtlds.icann.org

Interesting, thanks.

573 retired cynic  May 5, 2015 2:34:59pm

re: #548 wrenchwench

Oh, death eaters coming!


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