How Online Fundraising Confusion, Lawyers & Chuck C. Johnson Kept $60k From Tamir Rice’s Family

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More: Online Activists Raised $60K for Tamir Rice’s Family — So Where Did All That Money Go?

Shaun King was furious.

The author and life coach turned activist has been one of the most prominent online voices in recent months, as protests of police impunity that began in Ferguson, Mo., spawned demonstrations in cities across the country. For those following the ever-growing roster of names of black men and boys killed by police, he has been one of the essential follows.

But his latest tweet storm, published Monday afternoon, was not about a new police shooting. In fact, it was about an old one.

For King and many of the other activists who have been some of the driving forces online behind the Black Lives Matter protests, the shooting of 12-year-old Tamir Rice last November as he played in a park near his home was one of the most difficult of the many anecdotes.

For many of the most vocal activists, that Tamir was a child and that his shooting was captured on grainy camera footage makes this case the most difficult to stomach. When extended video of the shooting — which showed Cleveland police tackling Tamir’s sister to the ground as she ran to his dying body — was released late last year, one of the top protest organizers in Ferguson texted to tell me it had made him physically sick, imagining what he would do if his younger sister was wounded and he was tackled while trying to help her.

So when a new court filing in the Rice family’s civil suit against the city of Cleveland revealed that Tamir has yet to be buried and that his mother was, at least temporarily, living in a homeless shelter, King was incensed.

“Absurd!” he insisted to me in a direct message on Monday afternoon, especially, he noted, because just months earlier an army of online samaritans had raised almost $60,000 for the Rice family.

So where had all of that money gone?

Timothy Kucharski had been one of two attorneys representing the Rice family for several weeks when he got a call from a friend in early December, asking about an online fundraiser he was seeing in the Rice name.

Created on the Web site youcaring.com, thousands of dollars were pouring into a fund for the Rice family. But Kucharski had never heard of King — one of the fund’s primary organizers — and Rice’s mother told him that she was unaware of the fundraiser.

As the fund surpassed $27,000, Kucharski contacted law enforcement as well as youcaring.com directly, asking that the assets being donated to the fund be seized and held for the Rice family. He contacted King, who has previously used his social media following to raise money for victims of police shootings and natural disasters and who insisted that his plan was always to give the money to the family. As they went back and forth, a number of Twitter users — led in part by right-wing blogger Charles C. Johnson — began insisting that the fundraiser was a scam and demanding it be halted.

More at Washington Post.

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338 comments

1 Great White Snark  May 5, 2015 11:16:31am

*spit* What a hateful bunch of losers.

2 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 11:23:22am
As they went back and forth, a number of Twitter users — led in part by right-wing blogger Charles C. Johnson — began insisting that the fundraiser was a scam and demanding it be halted.

CCJ is obviously a douche, but not clear how or what he did here got the money locked up. Sounds like King et al should have gotten in touch with the Rice family and their lawyers before or soon after the fund raising started.

I saw yesterday that other activists connected to the events in Ferguson were trying to raise money for the family, who are now apparently in a homeless shelter.

3 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 12:11:31pm

Dana Loesch can raise almost a million dollars for homophobic bigots, has anyone challenged these griftathons?

4 Ace-o-aces  May 5, 2015 12:17:24pm

re: #2 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

CCJ is obviously a douche, but not clear how or what he did here got the money locked up. Sounds like King et al should have gotten in touch with the Rice family and their lawyers before or soon after the fund raising started.

Of course, that hasn’t stopped CCJ from claiming he saved the Rice family’s money. This was, of course, after several posts claiming that Tamir rice was a criminal thug who deserved to get shot.

I saw yesterday that other activists connected to the events in Ferguson were trying to raise money for the family, who are now apparently in a homeless shelter.

Read the article, they are out of the shelter now.

Also, notice how Wesley Lowery offers a well written, easily understandable narrative of the issue, as opposed to Upchuck’s usual offering of multiple twitter posts strung together by ungrammatical ranting. No wonder CCJ hates Lowery so much.

5 Eclectic Cyborg  May 5, 2015 12:21:35pm

How many times must this family be victimized?

6 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 12:23:46pm
Read the article, they are out of the shelter now.

Good.

7 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:26:51pm

re: #3 Lord Of The Pies

Dana Loesch can raise almost a million dollars for homophobic bigots, has anyone challenged these griftathons?

Of course not. Bigoted pizza owners > mother who lost her son to TCOT assholes.

8 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 12:29:02pm

From the article:

In the meantime, King and other online activists created a second fundraiser, coordinated through Crump’s Florida-based law firm, money that will be directly available to the Rice family.

“This time we have it in writing that these funds go directly to her with no impediment,” King said.

More good.

(loved getting the message when I tried to post to the page that it had been moved to the front page. Coolio)

9 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 12:29:50pm

re: #1 Great White Snark

*spit* What a hateful bunch of losers.

Yeah, but CCJ is out raising money for the Rice family now. Right?

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10 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:30:26pm

There really is something really shitty about these people. Bad enough that Tamir’s mother lost her son the way she did, bad enough that the police and DA’s office don’t seem to give a damn, and then to have this shithead make things even worse for her? But what do I know. I’m just a “SJW” and not an “award winning journalist” who slimes people for shits and giggles.

11 Ace-o-aces  May 5, 2015 12:30:45pm

OH NOES. TEH MOOSLIMS IS HAVIN TEH BABBIES!!!!!!

12 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 12:31:22pm
13 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:32:12pm

That’s some scary looking phone.

14 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 12:32:55pm

re: #2 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Chuck was one of the biggest organizers of the smear campaign, so I think it’s fair to say he was instrumental in keeping the money from getting to the Rice family.

But I also agree Shaun King should have cleared this with the family first.

15 allegro  May 5, 2015 12:33:07pm

re: #13 Nyet

That’s some scary looking phone.

If it rings, DO NOT ANSWER!

16 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:34:50pm

re: #15 allegro

If it rings, DO NOT ANSWER!

BUT IT’S LOOKING AT ME INTENTLY!

17 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:39:23pm

18 FemNaziBitch  May 5, 2015 12:40:40pm

You know, I’ve sat in a few meetings. I’ve learned about a term: co-dependence.

I think this is the most extreme example of which I’ve ever heard. I’ve heard so doozies.

19 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 12:40:43pm

Don’t forget that those former lawyers charged for every single phone call, copy, postage, etc, plus whatever they were charging per hour. For instance, a call from the hospital telling the attorneys that Tamir had died. They took $27K from the original fundraiser for their fees as arranged by the “trustee” who actually controllled it. Don’t know exactly how they earned it, but there it is.

So, here’s that grand jury bullshit again, too.

20 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 5, 2015 12:40:44pm

re: #13 Nyet

Pretty sure I had one of those growing up.

21 FemNaziBitch  May 5, 2015 12:41:32pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Chuck was one of the biggest organizers of the smear campaign, so I think it’s fair to say he was instrumental in keeping the money from getting to the Rice family.

But I also agree Shaun King should have cleared this with the family first.

I can see Shaun wanting to suprise them. I would have involved my attorney or an accountant. Public Aid attorneys would have been happy to help-pro bono.

22 blueraven  May 5, 2015 12:41:55pm

re: #2 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

CCJ is obviously a douche, but not clear how or what he did here got the money locked up. Sounds like King et al should have gotten in touch with the Rice family and their lawyers before or soon after the fund raising started.

I saw yesterday that other activists connected to the events in Ferguson were trying to raise money for the family, who are now apparently in a homeless shelter.

They are no longer in a homeless shelter and there is another funding campaign sanctioned by the family.

gofundme.com

23 FemNaziBitch  May 5, 2015 12:42:54pm

re: #20 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Pretty sure I had one of those growing up.

I did. I though it was the SHIT!

24 FemNaziBitch  May 5, 2015 12:43:44pm

re: #17 Nyet

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Is your refridgerator running?

25 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 12:44:03pm

re: #19 Justanotherhuman

Forgot to add this, a sort of update on the Tamir Rice case (which the cops and prosecutor evidently have no idea when it will be presented to a grand jury):

daytondailynews.com

26 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 12:44:27pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Chuck was one of the biggest organizers of the smear campaign, so I think it’s fair to say he was instrumental in keeping the money from getting to the Rice family.

But I also agree Shaun King should have cleared this with the family first.

But it sounds like the new lawyers and King have gotten together so a new fundraiser will help them more quickly.

But thanks, CCJ, for nothing.

27 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:44:28pm

re: #23 FemNaziBitch

I did. I though it was the SHIT!

For today’s baby. They have toy cell phones. My niece has one. She loves my real cell phone though because she loves to watch the videos that she dances to.

28 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 12:46:00pm
29 FemNaziBitch  May 5, 2015 12:46:09pm
30 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 12:46:21pm

He must have been playing with someone even more illiterate than he is.

31 Kragar  May 5, 2015 12:46:32pm
32 Dr. Matt  May 5, 2015 12:46:32pm

Algorithms
Algebra
Algorisms
Algebraic

33 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 12:47:22pm

re: #30 BeachDem

He must have been playing with someone even more illiterate than he is.

Did he win an award for that, too?

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34 Dr. Matt  May 5, 2015 12:48:24pm

re: #33 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Did he win an award for that, too?

/

AWARD WINNING SCRABBLER!!!!!

35 Kragar  May 5, 2015 12:48:24pm

re: #30 BeachDem

36 Snarknado!  May 5, 2015 12:48:38pm

re: #32 Dr. Matt

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Algorithms
Algebra
Algorisms
Algebraic

WHAT?!? Nobody told me there would be MATH!

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37 b.d.  May 5, 2015 12:48:57pm

re: #32 Dr. Matt

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Algorithms
Algebra
Algorisms
Algebraic

Alcohol

38 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:49:43pm

re: #32 Dr. Matt

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Algorithms
Algebra
Algorisms
Algebraic

AL-abama? Seriously what a jackass. All “Al” is in Arabic is a prefix for “the.” See if Lindsay knew how to use the internet, he would have figured that out like I just did instead of spouting out stupid crap. But remember Lindsay only sounds this way because if he loses his senate seat, someone really insane will take his spot and he’s a “good egg.”

39 Ace-o-aces  May 5, 2015 12:50:10pm

re: #11 Ace-o-aces

40 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:50:23pm

re: #37 b.d.

Alcohol

Al-chemy

41 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:50:34pm

OK, octaroon is an alternative spelling of octoroon, so he actually writes it correctly.

collinsdictionary.com

Let’s focus on the racism.

42 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 12:50:43pm

re: #31 Kragar

Just when you think that the right wing insane clown posse can’t get any more insane, it does! In the spirit of his favorite right wing revisionist pseudo historian, David Barton, Mike Huckabee is putting out his own line of cartoons

These videos sound like some quality workmanship that I’m sure the rest of the clown car passengers will enjoy.
/

43 Kragar  May 5, 2015 12:50:44pm

re: #32 Dr. Matt

44 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 12:50:44pm

Some of this is the result of a family overwhelmed with grief and heartache and having to deal with media, lawyers, and people like CCJ at the worst possible moment in their lives.

You’ve got some people who come in with the best of intentions, but there are issues with execution and follow through so it causes more problems than it should. I think that explains Shaun’s involvement. He had the right intentions, but the follow through was a mess.

The lawyers initially involved also bungled things, and putting an administrator in charge also meant that the family would have to go through them for all manner of expenses relating to their son’s death. That could/should have been avoidable. Ticky tack fees/charges by the initial lawyers also shows how unscrupulous some can be and that there are all manner of hidden costs to victims/survivors of these officer-involved shootings.

And then you have CCJ, who epitomizes the worst of humanity in one fell swoop and whose actions here didn’t stop an injustice, but continued one and inflicted more heartbreak on the family at a time when they could least deal with it.

45 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 12:51:14pm

re: #32 Dr. Matt

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Algorithms
Algebra
Algorisms
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Don’t forget Al Gore when he’s over there, either.

46 Kryptik  May 5, 2015 12:51:29pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

This is why I will never begrudge you for going after Chuck, Charles. For all his inflated ego and delusions of grandeur, he and his ilk still have a rather large potential for genuine harm, because some people simply won’t be aware of their history of grifting and bad behavior.

Guys like him aren’t minor internet trolls begging to be fed. They’re already set in a self-feeding cycle perpetuated by similarly thinking cretins. Only sunlight and biting mockery can help tear terrible human beings like Chuckles the Clown down.

47 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:52:02pm

I just realized thinking about it. Al and El. Never noticed that before but given the geographic connection of Spain to the Arab world. Makes sense.

48 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 12:52:27pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Chuck was one of the biggest organizers of the smear campaign, so I think it’s fair to say he was instrumental in keeping the money from getting to the Rice family.

But I also agree Shaun King should have cleared this with the family first.

Upchuck himself claims credit for getting the money put into the estate fund—which, the way I’m reading it, was a big problem—allowing the sleazy lawyers to access it rather than the family.

Do I have it right or am I missing something?

49 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 12:52:36pm

heh…not just ferry services:

50 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:53:38pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

I just realized thinking about it. Al and El. Never noticed that before but given the geographic connection of Spain to the Arab world. Makes sense.

If you mean articles, they’re not related.

51 Ace-o-aces  May 5, 2015 12:54:14pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…not just ferry services:

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Next year, SPRING BREAK HAVANA!!!!!

52 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:54:17pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…not just ferry services:

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Quiero ir a Cuba un dia.

53 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 12:54:18pm

re: #44 lawhawk

Yeah I don’t doubt Shaun King’s intentions.

And then you have CCJ

Wait, I think I see the problem…..

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54 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 12:54:19pm

re: #48 BeachDem

Exactly. But he still screams that WaPo libeled him, even though he himself confirms exactly what they printed.

55 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 12:54:27pm

re: #32 Dr. Matt

Allies.

Alignment.

Almighty.

Yeah, Al- (which is the prefix meaning “the” in Arabic) is real bad.

The Hebrew equivalent would be Ha (Hamelach - the king; harosh - the head, etc.)

56 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:54:57pm

re: #50 Nyet

If you mean articles, they’re not related.

Ah okay. I guess the connections are more cultural than linguistic?

57 #FergusonFireside  May 5, 2015 12:55:40pm

re: #8 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

From the article:

More good.

(loved getting the message when I tried to post to the page that it had been moved to the front page. Coolio)

I gave a little last night.

58 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:55:52pm

I mean I hate Algebra too. I never was the best math student but.

59 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 12:56:32pm
60 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:56:55pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

I mean I hate Algebra too. I never was the best math student but.

What about alcohol? ;)

61 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 12:56:55pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

Exactly. But he still screams that WaPo libeled him, even though he himself confirms exactly what they printed.

That’s UpChuck’s ultimate grift. Throw lawsuits at people, hoping for a settlement.

62 Kryptik  May 5, 2015 12:57:10pm

re: #50 Nyet

We DID get El Cid from Al-Sayyid, but that’s more an effect of loan words and transliteration than anything else.

I am personally still amazed that sheriff and sharif hold no shared etymological origins.

63 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 5, 2015 12:57:15pm

Major, major finger crossing and good thoughts, please. My sister has a second interview pretty much now for an internship position out in CA-land and I would be thrilled if she got it.

64 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:57:16pm

re: #60 Nyet

What about alcohol? ;)

AL-cohol is AL-ways welcome.

65 FemNaziBitch  May 5, 2015 12:57:30pm

VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY:

OCTAROON
/ˌɒktəˈruːn/
noun
1.
a variant spelling of octoroon
octoroon
/ˌɒktəˈruːn/
noun
1.
a person having one quadroon and one White parent and therefore having one-eighth Black blood Compare quadroon
Word Origin
C19: octo- + -roon as in quadroon

quite *ahem* archaic.

I don’t know why someone would talk about such a word at all. The 50 point bonus was for using all 7 letters, not for some major intelligence of knowing the word.

66 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 12:57:49pm

re: #63 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Major, major finger crossing and good thoughts, please. My sister has a second interview pretty much now for an internship position out in CA-land and I would be thrilled if she got it.

Absolutely. Good luck to her.

67 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 12:58:13pm

re: #65 FemNaziBitch

Because UpChuck.

68 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 12:58:52pm

re: #24 FemNaziBitch

Is your refridgerator running?

Nah, I have it bolted to the floor.

69 FemNaziBitch  May 5, 2015 12:59:25pm

re: #68 Bubblehead II

Nah, I have it bolted to the floor.

TMI

70 lawhawk  May 5, 2015 12:59:39pm

re: #65 FemNaziBitch

Someone attempting to be obtuse with their racism. Don’t want to come out and say it explicitly, but want to signal their intentions anyways.

That he seems to think that there’s nothing wrong with it says more about him and his worldview than it does about those who find the word offensive (after trying to figure out what exactly he was saying because the word was archaic and out of regular usage because of its racist connotations).

71 Nyet  May 5, 2015 12:59:54pm

re: #62 Kryptik

We DID get El Cid from Al-Sayyid, but that’s more an effect of loan words and transliteration than anything else.

I am personally still amazed that sheriff and sharif hold no shared etymological origins.

“The name El Cid (Spanish: [el ˈθið]) is a modern Spanish denomination composed by the article el meaning “the” and Cid which comes from the Old Castilian loan word Çid from the dialectal Arabic word سيد sîdi or sayyid, which means “Lord” or “Master”.”

So while you got Cid from sayyid, the “el” is Spanish.

72 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 1:00:07pm

re: #65 FemNaziBitch

VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY:

quite *ahem* archaic.

I don’t know why someone would talk about such a word at all. The 50 point bonus was for using all 7 letters, not for some major intelligence of knowing the word.

He thinks by using archaic bigoted slurs it will get NRO to think he’s smart and they will hire him.

73 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 1:00:21pm

re: #65 FemNaziBitch

VOCABULARY WORD OF THE DAY:

quite *ahem* archaic.

I don’t know why someone would talk about such a word at all.

Oh hell, in South, they don’t use those anymore, but they’ve substituted “half-breed” instead for biracial kids.

74 No Country For Old Haters  May 5, 2015 1:01:10pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

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75 FemNaziBitch  May 5, 2015 1:01:21pm

I thought sex on the beach was a drink?
Couple found guilty of having sex on Bradenton Beach

76 RealityBasedSteve  May 5, 2015 1:01:49pm

re: #51 Ace-o-aces

Next year, SPRING BREAK HAVANA!!!!!

Mi aerodeslizador es lleno de anguilas

I’m ready to go. Great diving there, Castro protected the reefs from what I understand.

RBS

77 FemNaziBitch  May 5, 2015 1:03:48pm

re: #75 FemNaziBitch

I thought sex on the beach was a drink?
Couple found guilty of having sex on Bradenton Beach

I think this will be appealed.

78 #FergusonFireside  May 5, 2015 1:04:00pm

re: #51 Ace-o-aces

Next year, SPRING BREAK HAVANA!!!!!

Seriously. I’m going.

79 FemNaziBitch  May 5, 2015 1:04:29pm

re: #76 RealityBasedSteve

Mi aerodeslizador es lleno de anguilas

I’m ready to go. Great diving there, Castro protected the reefs from what I understand.

RBS

WELL, if you change your plans and go to Florida, don’t even hold hands on the beach. You might get arrested.

80 FemNaziBitch  May 5, 2015 1:06:14pm

bbl

81 Nyet  May 5, 2015 1:08:40pm

Found Stalker with English subs on YT [1, 2]. I never understood why I like this film. Not much of a story. But it’s somehow hypnotic.

Here’s one memorable scene.

82 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 1:09:06pm
83 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 1:10:12pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

Exactly. But he still screams that WaPo libeled him, even though he himself confirms exactly what they printed.

I think we’ve established that upchuck doesn’t understand what libel is (among a myriad of other things.)

84 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 1:10:24pm

re: #77 FemNaziBitch

I think this will be appealed.

Maybe those morons should have gotten a room?

“Video played in the courtroom during the 1- 1/2-day trial showed Alvarez moving on top of Caballero in a sexual manner in broad daylight. Witnesses testified a 3-year-old girl saw them.”

Read more here: bradenton.com

85 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 1:13:30pm
86 Kid A  May 5, 2015 1:13:39pm

Texas Senate bans insurance coverage of abortions.
m.chron.com

87 Snarknado!  May 5, 2015 1:14:14pm

re: #81 Nyet

Found Stalker with English subs on YT [1, 2]. I never understood why I like this film. Not much of a story. But it’s somehow hypnotic.

Here’s one memorable scene.

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Likewise. Have you read the book it’s based on? One of my favorite Strugatskys (but all the translations I’ve seen suck, unfortunately).

88 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 1:14:40pm

re: #2 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

CCJ is obviously a douche, but not clear how or what he did here got the money locked up.

Twitter Advanced Search.

89 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 1:14:58pm

re: #69 FemNaziBitch

TMI

Well I didn’t want it running away*.

* old phone jokes

90 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 1:15:08pm

re: #60 Nyet

What about alcohol? ;)

al-kuḥl. According to Wikipedia. Got to English in the 16th century via French.

91 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 1:15:59pm
92 Nyet  May 5, 2015 1:16:04pm

re: #87 Snarknado!

Yes. I read most of Strugatskys’ work. The book is different though, more of a “pure” sci-fi.

93 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 1:16:16pm

Thank God for the pencil button! I’m frequently in need of it lately.

IT’S NOT A TUMOR!

94 Kragar  May 5, 2015 1:16:31pm

re: #86 Kid A

“People who are opposed to abortion do not like having to pay for it for others.”

Guess what? I don’t like paying for viagra for limp dicks who can’t get it up. When are they going to ban that?

95 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 5, 2015 1:19:47pm

re: #94 Kragar

“People who are opposed to abortion do not like having to pay for it for others.”

Guess what? I don’t like paying for viagra for limp dicks who can’t get it up. When are they going to ban that?

Why are they circumventing God’s will?

96 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 1:19:51pm

Chalk another one up for the Obama admin.

Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., says he expects ‘overwhelming vote’ in favor of Iran deal bill on Thursday - @thehill
read more on thehill.com

97 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 1:21:37pm

re: #96 Justanotherhuman

Chalk another one up for the Obama admin.

Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., says he expects ‘overwhelming vote’ in favor of Iran deal bill on Thursday - @thehill
read more on thehill.com

RINO!!! Appeasement!!!!11

98 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 1:24:41pm

JetBlue to offer flights from New York to Cuba starting July 3, company says - @NBCNewYork
read more on nbcnewyork.com

99 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 1:25:00pm

I like the new pedantic defense of abject racism. “As long as we don’t say ‘superior’ it’s technically not white supremacy.”

100 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 1:25:21pm
101 No Country For Old Haters  May 5, 2015 1:25:31pm

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

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Twitter Advanced Search.

102 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 1:26:27pm

re: #100 BeachDem

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CCJ is gonna burn down the whole establishment and Hey Look Over There, Why Are Those Urban People Rioting?

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103 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 1:26:56pm

re: #100 BeachDem

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Like your buddies at Fox Chuck?

104 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 1:27:26pm

He claims to hate the establishment but yet he’s begging Charles Murray to have a drink with him.

105 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 1:27:41pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Like your buddies at Fox Chuck?

You kidding? UpChuck’s award-winning journalism practically built Fox.

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106 RealityBasedSteve  May 5, 2015 1:27:53pm

re: #100 BeachDem

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upChuck, you’re not a life boat, you’re just a little dingy.

RBS

107 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 1:28:19pm

This is why I like Deray so much. Integrity. He corrects misstatements and gossip by verification.

108 No Country For Old Haters  May 5, 2015 1:28:45pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

He claims to hate the establishment but yet he’s begging Charles Murray to have a drink with him.

He only claims that because the “establishment” wants nothing to do with someone as far gone as he is. They’ll support complete loons like Erick Erickson, but not Upchuck.

109 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 1:29:13pm

re: #108 No Country For Old Haters

He only claims that because the “establishment” wants nothing to do with someone as far gone as he is. They’ll support complete loons like Erick Erickson, but not Upchuck.

Exactly.

110 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 1:30:21pm

Holy shit.

New York Fire Department: Construction worker dies after 24-story plunge down midtown Manhattan elevator shaft - @NBCNewYork
read more on nbcnewyork.com

111 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 1:30:22pm

re: #101 No Country For Old Haters

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I have no doubt that he contacts them on the reg. He probably inundates them with so many Encyclopedia Brown hot takes that law enforcement agencies have to set up a mail bot rule insta-shitcanning his correspondence.

112 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 1:30:26pm

re: #99 goddamnedfrank

I like the new pedantic defense of abject racism. “As long as we don’t say ‘superior’ it’s technically not white supremacy.”

Yep. Complete feigned ignorance of history and any possibility that words (or symbols) with past usage might be viewed in a negative way.

113 RealityBasedSteve  May 5, 2015 1:31:19pm

re: #98 Justanotherhuman

JetBlue to offer flights from New York to Cuba starting July 3, company says - @NBCNewYork
read more on nbcnewyork.com

Obama is supporting a communist atheist socialist thug Castro

Yea, like the rest of the world has been doing for years…. virgin-atlantic.com

114 No Country For Old Haters  May 5, 2015 1:31:33pm

re: #112 Feline Fearless Leader

Yep. Complete feigned ignorance of history and any possibility that words (or symbols) with past usage might be viewed in a negative way.

To be fair, ALL wingnuts are oblivious to history or context. It’s one of the reasons that they’re wingnuts.

115 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 1:32:32pm

re: #112 Feline Fearless Leader

Yep. Complete feigned ignorance of history and any possibility that words (or symbols) with past usage might be viewed in a negative way.

Basically it’s “if we think it and directly imply it but don’t overtly say it we don’t have to own it.” The thinnest, most transparent of weak dodges.

116 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 5, 2015 1:33:46pm

And if you really back them into a corner, they will just call it “racial realism” and cite a bunch of dodgy, discredited studies.

117 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 1:35:23pm

re: #107 Justanotherhuman

This is why I like Deray so much. Integrity. He corrects misstatements and gossip by verification.

Which happens to be one of the qualities I like about the commenters here.

118 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 1:35:42pm

re: #99 goddamnedfrank

Every time I see one of these Twitter fights going on, with some wingnut cretin refusing to acknowledge obvious racism, I check the profile and… already blocked him!

All the little sycophants who follow Chuck can be ignored; they’re not important. Chuck, though, has the ability to really harm people.

119 EPR-radar  May 5, 2015 1:35:45pm

re: #114 No Country For Old Haters

To be fair, ALL wingnuts are oblivious to history or context. It’s one of the reasons that they’re wingnuts.

The exceptions to this rule are noteworthy. There’s a good one today at RedState redstate.com where a very sensible analysis of the H1B scam has been posted. Furthermore, nearly all of the comments are also sensible(!).

Democrats need to pay attention to issues like these, because almost nobody, from either side of the fence, really believes corporate propaganda regarding labor and trade.

120 DodgerFan1988  May 5, 2015 1:36:24pm

To call Charles C. Johnson pond scum is an insult to pond scum.

121 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 1:38:11pm

Uber ceases operations in Kansas after state Senate overrides veto of bill imposing new regulations on raid-hailing companies - @AP
read more on kake.com

122 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 1:39:03pm

re: #119 EPR-radar

Good grief what’s going on over at RedState? Just a few days ago there was some pretty thoughtful post about the realities of police violence and how generally insulated they are from punishment.

123 No Country For Old Haters  May 5, 2015 1:40:29pm

re: #122 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Good grief what’s going on over at RedState? Just a few days ago there was some pretty thoughtful post about the realities of police violence and how generally insulated they are from punishment.

It can’t be easy to believe that you’re against government abuse while being a right-wing authoritarian.

124 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 1:41:44pm

hahahaaaa:

Former Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas has won the endorsement of one of his most loyal supporters as he announces his second run for president Tuesday morning.

Chuck Norris, the former action film hero and star of the 1990s television show “Walker, Texas Ranger” made frequent appearances with Mr. Huckabee on the trail and in his campaign commercials in 2008. He continues to be a believer.

“I still believe Mike Huckabee is the most qualified,” Mr. Norris told First Draft in a statement. “He has the moral clarity and experience to lead our great country forward.”

Based in Texas, Mr. Norris, 75, said he had been very impressed with the other presidential candidates who had entered the race. However, he said that Mr. Huckabee had a singular ability to communicate with both liberals and conservatives.

125 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 1:42:42pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahaaaa:

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You can keep Chuck Norris, Huck, I’ll take The Dude’s endorsement any day and it’s not going to you or any of the other nutcases in your party.

126 Nyet  May 5, 2015 1:43:30pm

re: #122 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Good grief what’s going on over at RedState? Just a few days ago there was some pretty thoughtful post about the realities of police violence and how generally insulated they are from punishment.

Most of thoughtful content there comes from Leon Wolf, a rare “sane” RedStater.

127 Iwouldprefernotto  May 5, 2015 1:43:52pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahaaaa:

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Who is going to get the endorsement of Clint Eastwood and/or his empty chair?

128 Kragar  May 5, 2015 1:44:15pm
129 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 1:45:22pm

re: #127 Iwouldprefernotto

Who is going to get the endorsement of Clint Eastwood and/or his empty chair?

Heh. In all fairness to Clint, I still don’t know what he was thinking. Clint isn’t a wingnut. I was real surprised therefore when he not only endorsed Romney but gave that speech. I still like and respect him as an actor and director but I felt bad for him watching that speech since he looked like a confused old man.

130 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 1:46:14pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

You can keep Chuck Norris, Huck, I’ll take The Dude’s endorsement any day and it’s not going to you or any of the other nutcases in your party.

At the 2012 Democratic Convention

You rang?

131 EPR-radar  May 5, 2015 1:47:15pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

On what planet is Huckabee capable of communicating (presumably persuasively) with liberals? For example, I’m well left of the US center, and it is completely obvious that Huckabee and I do not inhabit the same reality or speak the same language.

Huckabee is all about the God-soaked magical thinking in lieu of reality, and my view is that reality comes first and any policy prescriptions need to be evaluated on the basis of real-world effects and nothing else.

132 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 1:47:18pm

re: #130 BeachDem

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You rang?

Love that guy. A true renaissance man and a class act.

133 Nyet  May 5, 2015 1:47:36pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Not a wingnut, just dumb.

134 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 1:48:45pm

re: #133 Nyet

Not a wingnut, just dumb.

Yes. Since he was acting like it was Obama’s fault that the debt is the way it is when speaking to the party that created much of that debt in the first place.

135 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 1:49:12pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Heh. In all fairness to Clint, I still don’t know what he was thinking. Clint isn’t a wingnut. I was real surprised therefore when he not only endorsed Romney but gave that speech. I still like and respect him as an actor and director but I felt bad for him watching that speech since he looked like a confused old man.

Yeah I remember when he caught flack from some of the RWNJ for that boxing movie (the assisted suicide thing). I also seem to recall not long ago him saying something not wingnuttery about gay marriage (although I forget the details).

136 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 1:50:07pm

re: #135 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Yeah I remember when he caught flack from some of the RWNJ for that boxing movie (the assisted suicide thing). I also seem to recall not long ago him saying something not wingnuttery about gay marriage (although I forget the details).

He’s pro gay marriage and a believer in global warming. And a lot of his movies have an anti war feel to them. Haven’t seen American Sniper yet though.

137 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 1:50:08pm

re: #126 Nyet

Most of thoughtful content there comes from Leon Wolf, a rare “sane” RedStater.

Well, his stay at RS might not be long then.

138 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 1:50:46pm

Maybe RS is getting more sane since Erick’s in seminary?

139 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 1:51:19pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahaaaa:

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I thought the plan was to kill all the Liberals.

Only slight exaggeration.

140 Nyet  May 5, 2015 1:52:32pm

re: #137 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Well, his stay at RS might not be long then.

That’s unlikely, as he’s one of the editors.

141 EPR-radar  May 5, 2015 1:52:39pm

re: #137 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Well, his stay at RS might not be long then.

Leon Wolf isn’t going anywhere. He is sane on police brutality, but I don’t think he has any other significant deviations from conservative orthodoxy.

142 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 1:53:43pm

re: #136 HappyWarrior

He’s pro gay marriage and a believer in global warming. And a lot of his movies have an anti war feel to them. Haven’t seen American Sniper yet though.

Another one of his films was Letters From Iwo Jima, which tells WWII from the Japanese point of view, or at least centers on Japanese characters. Spoken in Japanese if I’m not mistaken.

143 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 1:53:48pm

The worst wingnut celebs are those like Norris, Hank Williams Jr, or Ted Nugent. Real genuinely hateful people and in Ted’s case quite violent in their rhetoric to those who disagree. Eastwood’s anti-Obama screed while stupid wasn’t really nasty. I actually felt bad for him more than I was angered by the speech.

144 Kragar  May 5, 2015 1:54:08pm

CCJ’s TL: Nothing but attacks on Shaun King

Shaun King’s TL: Actual news about Tamir Rice

145 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 1:55:04pm

re: #144 Kragar

CCJ’s TL: Nothing but attacks on Shaun King

Shaun King’s TL: Actual news about Tamir Rice

Chuck is usually doing one of two things: attacking someone else or begging some Establishment person or group to talk to him.

146 EPR-radar  May 5, 2015 1:55:35pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

Maybe RS is getting more sane since Erick’s in seminary?

I don’t think so. That site is my main way of seeing what the US right is up to on-line, and the main pattern I see is ever-increasing extremism. Recognition of reality (e.g., police brutality and corporate rule issues) remains an anomaly.

147 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 1:56:03pm

re: #142 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Another one of his films was Letters From Iwo Jima, which tells WWII from the Japanese point of view, or at least centers on Japanese characters. Spoken in Japanese if I’m not mistaken.

Yes and Flags of Our Fathers released in the same year was hardly gung-ho pro-war. It really got heavily into how Ira Hayes got treated like a hero but then as his 15 minutes of fame ended, he became an alcoholic and many people just forgot about him. I have a special weakness for that film since one of my grandmother’s hometown residents was one of the six flagraisers, Michael Strank. She always said we were related to the Stranks somehow too given that her father and Mike’s family came from the same town in Slovakia.

148 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 1:56:35pm

re: #144 Kragar

CCJ’s TL: Nothing but attacks on Shaun King

Shaun King’s TL: Actual news about Tamir Rice

CCJ also likes to attack Wesley Lowery when he has a spare minute.

149 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 1:56:49pm

re: #146 EPR-radar

I don’t think so. That site is my main way of seeing what the US right is up to on-line, and the main pattern I see is ever-increasing extremism. Recognition of reality (e.g., police brutality and corporate rule issues) remains an anomaly.

Yeah thought so. Was just speculating honestly. Anyhow, I think even RS has its stopped clock moments. I mean I am sure the Freepers are even horrified by things like Holocaust denial.

150 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 1:58:23pm

re: #147 HappyWarrior

I have a special weakness for that film since one of my grandmother’s hometown residents was one of the six flagraisers, Michael Strank.

Wow.

151 Kragar  May 5, 2015 1:58:49pm

“An Auburn woman calling herself an ambassador for God and his son, Jesus Christ, filed a federal lawsuit Friday against all homosexuals.”

152 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 1:58:56pm

Chuck went on an amazingly manic rant about Mike Huckabee this morning, I see. 28 tweets/retweets bashing Huckabee.

He’s got a real crush on Ted Cruz, and feels compelled to attack anyone who gets near.

153 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 2:00:41pm

re: #150 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Wow.

It’s an amazing story really. Mike Strank wasn’t even an American citizen when he enlisted and when he was KIA. I always bring it up to people who claim immigrants aren’t patriotic. As I said though, he and his folks were from the same town originally in Slovakia that my great grandfather was. Big Slovak actually technically Rusyn community in Johnstown, Pa for many years.

154 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 2:01:19pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

Chuck went on an amazingly manic rant about Mike Huckabee this morning, I see. 28 tweets/retweets bashing Huckabee.

He’s got a real crush on Ted Cruz, and feels compelled to attack anyone who gets near.

He’s awfully protective. He’ll be writing sonnets to Jeb though if he thinks he can “stop” Hillary though.

155 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 2:01:36pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

He’s got a real crush on Ted Cruz, and feels compelled to attack anyone who gets near.

I swear this is going to end with him boiling Cruz’s bunny.

156 Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2015 2:02:17pm

re: #142 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Another one of his films was Letters From Iwo Jima, which tells WWII from the Japanese point of view, or at least centers on Japanese characters. Spoken in Japanese if I’m not mistaken.

“Letters From Iwo Jima” was essentially the counterpart film to “Flags of Our Fathers”. The latter was framed by flashback story of three veterans who survived the fight on Iwo Jima. The former did not have the survivors, so it had the framing of a buried bag of letters being found on the island in a cave years after the war was over.

“Letters From Iwo Jima” well deserved the Best Picture Oscar nomination it got in 2006. It was one of the films I saw in a theater during a special, pretty much all day, session where they showed all the Best Picture nominee films for that year in a row. (That was the year “The Departed” won.)

157 Nyet  May 5, 2015 2:03:34pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

Chuck went on an amazingly manic rant about Mike Huckabee this morning, I see. 28 tweets/retweets bashing Huckabee.

He’s got a real crush on Ted Cruz, and feels compelled to attack anyone who gets near.

It’s the primate thing.

158 Kragar  May 5, 2015 2:04:37pm
159 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 2:05:48pm

I think FOF was the last film my grandfather, a Korean War vet like Clint saw in theaters. One thing that fascinates me is seeing how different veterans respond to war. You see guys like Graham and McCain who have seen war but are eager for the next war and then there are men like my grandfather who become almost pacifists as a result. What I didn’t know until the end of my grandfather’s life is that he wanted to request conscientious objector status. That surprised me. He had never been gung ho about his service mind you but it just did given I always had pictured as a guy who didn’t think much of the young men who did the same during Vietnam but then I think about it and realize he had seen older men like his brothers go off to WWII and some like Sgt. Strank never did come home.

160 blueraven  May 5, 2015 2:07:32pm

As much as I detest Pamela Geller, this WP headline is just awful.

Event organizer offers no apology after thwarted attack in Texas

washingtonpost.com

I mean really, it sounds like she should apologize for not getting killed. Fuel to the fire for those who think the left are “soft on terror” and garners more support for Geller.

161 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 2:08:13pm

re: #160 blueraven

As much as I detest Pamela Geller, this WP headline is just awful.

Event organizer offers no apology after thwarted attack in Texas

washingtonpost.com

I mean really, it sounds like she should apologize for not getting killed. Fuel to the fire for those who think the left are “soft on terror” and garners more support for Geller.

Yep.

162 EPR-radar  May 5, 2015 2:09:13pm

re: #32 Dr. Matt

Everything in the US that ends with -(R) is bad news, Mr. Graham, including you.

It boggles the mind that Lindsey Graham is viewed by many as some kind of relatively acceptable GOPer.

163 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 2:11:25pm

like:
*High paying advertisers
*High readership/viewers
*People who actually pay attention to them.
*Pulitzer Prizes

164 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 2:11:35pm

re: #151 Kragar

“An Auburn woman calling herself an ambassador for God and his son, Jesus Christ, filed a federal lawsuit Friday against all homosexuals.”

Orly, is that you?

165 Nyet  May 5, 2015 2:11:40pm

re: #160 blueraven

Yes, the headline is bullshit, and detracts from the valid points in the article itself.

166 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 2:12:46pm

[…]

Q: You once said that you and Eartha Kitt were blacklisted in the ’60s because you spoke out against the Vietnam War. What did that do to your career?

A: When I would come back to do concerts in the U.S., there’d be a whole audience who were wondering where my records went. I figured the record company was screwing up. An artist doesn’t think they are being blacklisted! It never occurred to me that I was important enough to have some politician go out of his way to silence me. I only found out about it in the ’80s by accident—a broadcaster announced they received letters of commendation from the White House for having suppressed my music. My career was so highly impacted in the U.S. it will never recover.

Q: What was affected the most?

A: Big-time magazine covers, late-night television. [But] when my career slowed down, it gave me time to do things outside of the U.S.

Q: You also found out the FBI had a file on you.

A: There was nothing there. Buffy Sainte-Marie has never broken the law. I did not smoke pot on the White House lawn, I don’t get traffic tickets and I’m not a criminal. It was ridiculous—they had letters from people in the file asking the FBI if they had a file on me. Also: everything was blacked out. It was very petty, very high school and very nasty.

[…]

167 blueraven  May 5, 2015 2:13:29pm

re: #165 Nyet

Yes, the headline is bullshit, and detracts from the valid points in the article itself.

Many people wont read beyond that awful headline. There will be OUTRAGE on the internets.

168 Kragar  May 5, 2015 2:13:34pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

169 EPR-radar  May 5, 2015 2:13:37pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

This game could continue all day:

*Writers capable of expressing themselves in proper English
*Credibility (all too often undeserved)
*Two firing neurons

170 Nyet  May 5, 2015 2:15:06pm

re: #167 blueraven

That said, it’s just one headline. Nothing to make a shitstorm of.

171 allegro  May 5, 2015 2:15:20pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

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like:
*High paying advertisers
*High readership/viewers
*People who actually pay attention to them.
*Pulitzer Prizes

Blue check mark.

172 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 2:16:33pm

re: #170 Nyet

Geller should apologize, all right, but for being a bigoted shithead.

173 Nyet  May 5, 2015 2:18:10pm

re: #172 Justanotherhuman

Geller should apologize, all right, but for being a bigoted shithead.

This.

174 Nyet  May 5, 2015 2:18:47pm

re: #172 Justanotherhuman

Geller should apologize, all right, but for being a bigoted shithead.

But a bigoted shithead cannot apologize for it by def, that’s their nature :D

175 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 2:19:31pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Yep.

Really the attackers played pretty much into her hands.

176 EPR-radar  May 5, 2015 2:20:06pm

re: #172 Justanotherhuman

Geller should apologize, all right, but for being a bigoted shithead.

It’s an interesting case. The headline is getting at something that is basically true, but it can too readily be twisted by opponents as a justification of the attack. Furthermore, there’s no obvious re-write (that I can see) that would keep the meaning and fix the problem.

177 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 2:20:52pm

re: #176 EPR-radar

It’s an interesting case. The headline is getting at something that is basically true, but it can too readily be twisted by opponents as a justification of the attack. Furthermore, there’s no obvious re-write (that I can see) that would keep the meaning and fix the problem.

“Regret” might have been a better word choice. But some things don’t fit neatly into short headlines.

178 Nyet  May 5, 2015 2:20:53pm

re: #176 EPR-radar

Then they should find another meaning.

179 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 2:22:54pm
180 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 2:27:01pm
181 blueraven  May 5, 2015 2:28:36pm

re: #176 EPR-radar

It’s an interesting case. The headline is getting at something that is basically true, but it can too readily be twisted by opponents as a justification of the attack. Furthermore, there’s no obvious re-write (that I can see) that would keep the meaning and fix the problem.

Organizer of Draw Muhammad Event Stands By Her First Amendment Right To Offensive Hate Speech.

182 Nyet  May 5, 2015 2:29:59pm

re: #181 blueraven

Organizer of Draw Muhammad Event Stands By Her First Amendment Right To Offensive Hate Speech.

That’s why you will never write for the MSM. //

183 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 2:30:17pm

Things RWNJ hate for $400, Alex

Attorney General Lynch meets Gray family in Baltimore

news.yahoo.com

184 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 2:30:49pm
185 EPR-radar  May 5, 2015 2:31:16pm

re: #181 blueraven

Organizer of Draw Muhammad Event Stands By Her First Amendment Right To Offensive Hate Speech.

That’s really very good. Translating this to MSM mush-speak might give us “Event organizer will carry on after thwarted attack in Texas”.

186 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 2:31:37pm

Even if the arrest was “legal” what about Freddie Gray’s death?

187 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 2:33:14pm

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

I swear this is going to end with him boiling Cruz’s bunny.

Harvard’s finest—lol. (not to be confused with smart evangelicals in Iowa.)

188 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 2:33:14pm

re: #181 blueraven

Best to just ignore her entirely. All she’s ever wanted is publicity. Yeah it sucks that she finally got what she wanted and managed to provoke a violent attack, but she’s well within her rights to be a narcissistic and socially malignant hosebeast. Making the attack about her only serves to in some small way legitimize her point of view. Fuck that.

189 Nyet  May 5, 2015 2:33:29pm

Remind me why did Americans start calling their cops “…’s finest”? Whence the ridiculousness?

190 EPR-radar  May 5, 2015 2:33:59pm

re: #186 Justanotherhuman

Even if the arrest was “legal” what about Freddie Gray’s death?

The charges have to be dealt with one by one. Some of the charges are based on a theory of false arrest, and these charges can (and should) be dropped if the arrest turned out to be legal.

Meanwhile, other charges relate to death in custody, including a murder-2 charge for the driver. These charges are completely unaffected by whether or not the arrest was legal.

191 Nyet  May 5, 2015 2:34:45pm

re: #187 BeachDem

I swear I did not see this comment before writing mine. Synchronicity FTW.

192 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 2:37:14pm

re: #187 BeachDem

Harvard’s finest—lol. (not to be confused with smart evangelicals in Iowa.)

have to imagine at some point one of Cruz’s handlers is going to tweet Chucky and say something like, Dude, no, just stop it. You’re not helping.

193 nearly-headless smith25  May 5, 2015 2:37:15pm

re: #189 Nyet

Remind me why did Americans start calling their cops “…’s finest”? Whence the ridiculousness?

I remember it coming about after 9/11. Totally associated with NYC. I’d never heard “Bravest” and “Finest” for Firefighters and Police officers before.

194 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 2:38:50pm

such an eejit:

195 Nyet  May 5, 2015 2:39:37pm

re: #193 nearly-headless smith25

Found this: word-detective.com

196 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 5, 2015 2:40:06pm

re: #193 nearly-headless smith25

I remember it coming about after 9/11. Totally associated with NYC. I’d never heard “Bravest” and “Finest” for Firefighters and Police officers before.

I think it’s been used for years, before 911. Sometimes said tongue in cheek, “X County’s Finest”.

197 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 2:41:48pm

re: #177 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

“Regret” might have been a better word choice. But some things don’t fit neatly into short headlines.

They could use the standard “we’re just asking questions” headline structure that the WaPo and NYT seem to be fond of these days, i.e.

“Does event organizer have any second thoughts after thwarted attack?”

198 Nyet  May 5, 2015 2:42:04pm

Nice site with a nice style too: word-detective.com

199 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 2:42:05pm
200 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 2:43:39pm
201 Nyet  May 5, 2015 2:47:17pm

re: #200 Charles Johnson

face
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

palm

202 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 2:47:22pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

such an eejit:

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203 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 2:50:29pm

re: #200 Charles Johnson

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The Washington Examiner can’t even get Tamir’s gender correct and they’re going to accuse Lowery of poor journalism. Carry on.

204 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 2:50:36pm

And I mean this in the nicest possible way.

205 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 2:50:58pm

re: #131 EPR-radar

On what planet is Huckabee capable of communicating (presumably persuasively) with liberals? For example, I’m well left of the US center, and it is completely obvious that Huckabee and I do not inhabit the same reality or speak the same language.

Huckabee is all about the God-soaked magical thinking in lieu of reality, and my view is that reality comes first and any policy prescriptions need to be evaluated on the basis of real-world effects and nothing else.

On Planet Ed Show.

I was watching some stuff on Paladia, and flipped over a few minutes into the Ed Show and he had just finished interviewing some guys about the Huckabee announcement. He wrapped that segment up saying he thought Huckabee was the best communicator of all the Republican announced candidates.

I am no longer watching Ed!

206 allegro  May 5, 2015 2:51:59pm

re: #203 HappyWarrior

The Washington Examiner can’t even get Tamir’s gender correct and they’re going to accuse Lowery of poor journalism. Carry on.

Makes one wonder if they have even read the news the past 6 months. Who didn’t know about the BOY?

207 HappyWarrior  May 5, 2015 2:52:41pm

re: #206 allegro

Makes one wonder if they have even read the news the past 6 months. Who didn’t know about the BOY?

Award winning right wing journalism. What’s a gender mix up between friends.

208 allegro  May 5, 2015 2:53:08pm

re: #205 ObserverArt

On Planet Ed Show.

I was watching some stuff on Paladia, and flipped over a few minutes into the Ed Show and he had just finished interviewing some guys about the Huckabee announcement. He wrapped that segment up saying he thought Huckabee was the best communicator of all the Republican announced candidates.

I am no longer watching Ed!

In fairness, it is a really low bar.

209 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 2:53:44pm

re: #200 Charles Johnson

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Where’s Rebecca when we need her—she’s a one-woman Betsy Rothstein exposer.

Betsy Rothstein, that sack of failure and loneliness in a human skin-suit who dribbles out “thoughts” for Tucker Carlson’s Journal of Caucasian Butthurt.

Read more at wonkette.com

Oops—that was Gary Legum’s description, but Rebecca is also not a Betsy fan:

210 #FergusonFireside  May 5, 2015 2:54:29pm

re: #201 Nyet

face
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

palm

Show’s the depth of their concern.

211 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 2:55:04pm

re: #184 Justanotherhuman

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baltimorecode.org

§ 59-22 Switch-blade knives.

(a) Possession or sale, etc., prohibited.

It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, carry, or possess any knife with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade, commonly known as a switch-blade knife.

While the police might be technically correct, this law’s “and/or” clause is so overly broad that it would ban any knife with a bias towards closure, which is damned close to every folding knife on the market right now. The only ones it would allow are friction folder designs such as the traditional Opinel or Higo No Kami.

212 Kragar  May 5, 2015 2:59:09pm

re: #211 goddamnedfrank

baltimorecode.org

While the police might be technically correct, this law’s “and/or” clause is so overly broad that it would ban any knife with a bias towards closure, which is damned close to every folding knife on the market right now. The only ones it would allow are friction folder designs such as the traditional Opinel or Higo No Kami.

What was their probable cause for searching for the knife in the first place? How did they know he had a knife? Why did they suspect a closed knife in a pocket might be an illegal type?

213 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 3:01:44pm

re: #211 goddamnedfrank

The Maryland State law by comparison makes it clear that the mechanism for opening a switchblade is housed in the handle. The trend in US knife legislation has been to make it clear that a folding knife that has a “bias towards closure” and no mechanism in the handle for opening is neither an automatic/switchblade nor a gravity knife. This is why Spyderco / Benchmade / etc brand folding designs that can be opened with one hand, and with practice even be opened with a flick of the wrist, are generally legal. Because there’s always a spring tension towards closure that must be overcome.

214 #FergusonFireside  May 5, 2015 3:02:46pm

re: #212 Kragar

AT 830 IN THE MORNING.

215 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 3:03:25pm

re: #212 Kragar

What was their probable cause for searching for the knife in the first place? How did they know he had a knife? Why did they suspect a closed knife in a pocket might be an illegal type?

I don’t know. But when I carry a Spyderco the clip is usually visible on the outside of my pocket.

Thank God I’m white or this might’ve become an issue.

216 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 3:04:26pm
217 Nyet  May 5, 2015 3:05:38pm

re: #216 Charles Johnson

Said Chuck and farted.

218 Kragar  May 5, 2015 3:07:07pm

re: #216 Charles Johnson

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I don’t think its possible either.

No way in hell Chuck is ending anyone’s career.

219 allegro  May 5, 2015 3:08:01pm

re: #216 Charles Johnson

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At least he has a career, one quite secure, I imagine. Something Chuck will never be able to claim.

220 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 3:08:51pm

re: #216 Charles Johnson

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He said the same thing to Allen West and a few other people.

221 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 3:09:33pm

That loud noise heard ‘round the world earlier today was my wife’s shouts of joy at discovering her long-lost box of Peeps in the bedroom closet.

Granted, five or six years isn’t technically “long-lost,” but still, huzzah!

I suspect those things are going to outlive the cockroach.

222 allegro  May 5, 2015 3:11:40pm

haha. Local ABC is doing a thing on Garland and interviewed a gun shop owner. The guy was all hyped and ready for a run on guns the past couple of days but instead reports that sales are “flat.” Even RWNJ are yawning over this OMG ISIS is here BS.

223 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 3:11:41pm

Here’s an Appeals Court opinion in a California case where they threw out a juvenile court decision that had previously found a kid delinquent for carrying a “switchblade.”

“We find the statutory definition of a switchblade and its exempting language quite clear.  (Angel R., supra, 163 Cal.App.4th at p. 911, 77 Cal.Rptr.3d 905 [section 653k is “clear and unambiguous”].)   As we explained in Angel R., for the exemption to apply, “the knife must be one that ‘opens with one hand utilizing thumb pressure applied solely to the blade of the knife or a thumb stud attached to the blade’ and has the detent or resistance mechanism.”  (Angel R., supra, 163 Cal.App.4th at p. 912, 77 Cal.Rptr.3d 905.)   Nothing in these requirements prevents a user from more quickly opening a knife by employing a wrist flip in conjunction with pressure on the blade or its thumb stud and disengaging the detent or other resistance mechanism.

Reviewing courts may turn to the legislative history behind even unambiguous statutes when it confirms or bolsters their interpretation, and that is the case here.2  (See, e.g., Samantar v. Yousuf (2010) —-U.S. ——, ——, 130 S.Ct. 2278, 2287, 176 L.Ed.2d 1047, fn. 9;  In re Tobacco II Cases (2009) 46 Cal.4th 298, 316, 93 Cal.Rptr.3d 559, 207 P.3d 20.)   Before 2001, the switchblade exemption covered “a knife that opens with one hand utilizing thumb pressure applied solely to the blade of the knife or a thumb stud attached to the blade,” which unquestionably would include defendant’s knife.   In 2001, the Legislature in Senate Bill No. 274 added to the exemption the current language requiring a detent or similar resistance mechanism.

The legislative history for Senate Bill No. 274 reflects its purpose was to “narrow[ ]” existing statutory “language to only allow knives to fall under the exemption from the switchblade law if that one-handed opening knife contains a detent or other mechanism.   Such mechanisms ensure there is a measure of resistance (no matter how slight) that prevents the knife from being easily opened with a flick of the wrist.   Moreover, a detent or similar mechanism is prudent and a matter of public safety as it will ensure that a blade will not inadvertently come open.  [¶] Although some one-handed opening knives can be opened with a strong flick of the wrist, so long as they contain a detent or similar mechanism that provides some resistance to opening the knife, then the exemption is triggered.   These knives serve an important utility to many knife users, as well as firefighters, EMT personnel, hunters, fishermen, and others.”  (Assem. 𠀬om. on Public Safety, Analysis of Sen. Bill No. 274 (2001-2002 Reg. Sess.) as introduced Feb. 16, 2001, pp. 1-2, italics added.)

Here, the uncontradicted testimony of the expert demonstrated Gilbert’s knife had both the necessary thumb stud “intended for this knife to stay closed” and “a detent mechanism” to hold the blade “in the fixed and closed position” until “opened with pressure to the thumb [stud] overcoming the positive detent mechanism.”   The expert acknowledged the detent mechanism required “minor maintenance” because it had loosened to where it provided 85 percent of the resistance it achieved when the knife was new.   But 85 percent effectiveness is still a substantial measure of resistance and falls within the plain terms of the exemption language requiring “resistance that must be overcome in opening the blade.”  (Former §𠀦53k.)   The expert, for example, shook the knife upside down and it did not open.   The juvenile court, however, imposed a standard beyond that required by law, namely, that the knife could not be opened by any flip of the wrist, even in conjunction with the requisite thumb pressure and disengaging the detent mechanism. Consequently, we must reverse.

The question the Baltimore cops face is one of consistency. I see no exemption for workmen, cops, etc in the Baltimore city code, so how often do the cops charge themselves, carpenters, upholsterers, rando white kids carrying Spyderco / Benchmade knives under the switchblade law?

224 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 3:13:13pm

re: #184 Justanotherhuman

deray mckesson @deray

Officer charged in #FreddieGray death contends arrest was legal bigstory.ap.org

5:26 PM - 5 May 2015

I did a Google image search for Freddie Gray’s knife and this image popped up. I am not sure if this is the actual knife, as the blog site (see link) where the image was pulled wasn’t very clear…on anything.

I post it just for discussion. Does anyone know what type of knife this is? I have never seen this type before.

Freddie Gray’s Knife - Why Is Prosecutor Claiming Unlawful Arrest?

An image of the knife Freddie Gray had on him at the time of arrest - Allegedly.
225 retired cynic  May 5, 2015 3:13:39pm

re: #166 wrenchwench

She’s beautiful.

226 freetoken  May 5, 2015 3:14:40pm

re: #151 Kragar

Does she have a letter from God granting power of attorney?

Maybe she is a deity and is filing a class action lawsuit on behalf of all deities?

227 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 3:16:50pm

re: #224 ObserverArt

I did a Google image search for Freddie Gray’s knife and this image popped up. I am not sure if this is the actual knife …

Almost certainly is not.

228 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 3:17:43pm

re: #225 retired cynic

She’s beautiful.

Inside and out.

229 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 3:17:53pm

re: #224 ObserverArt

I post it just for discussion. Does anyone know what type of knife this is? I have never seen this type before.

The boxcutter I use to open my Fresh Direct deliveries is more intimidating.

230 blueraven  May 5, 2015 3:18:58pm

re: #224 ObserverArt

I did a Google image search for Freddie Gray’s knife and this image popped up. I am not sure if this is the actual knife, as the blog site (see link) where the image was pulled wasn’t very clear…on anything.

I post it just for discussion. Does anyone know what type of knife this is? I have never seen this type before.

Freddie Gray’s Knife - Why Is Prosecutor Claiming Unlawful Arrest?

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Looks like my potato peeler.

231 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 3:19:58pm

re: #227 goddamnedfrank

For one thing there’s no thumb stud or opening hole. The gap running down the middle of the blade would be fully covered by the handle when closed. It looks like an automatic knife, with a mechanism in the handle, which the State’s Attorney would have identified as illegal under MD law. Pretty sure that blogger is just making shit up.

232 RealityBasedSteve  May 5, 2015 3:20:54pm

A giant model Lego Star Destroyer crashing in super-slow motion…. just ‘cuz
Youtube Video

Updated to show Youtube video….

233 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 3:23:51pm

re: #221 De Kolta Chair

That loud noise heard ‘round the world earlier today was my wife’s shouts of joy at discovering her long-lost box of Peeps in the bedroom closet.

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Granted, five or six years isn’t technically “long-lost,” but still, huzzah!

They haven’t crystallized by now?

234 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 3:23:54pm

re: #231 goddamnedfrank

For one thing there’s no thumb stud or opening hole. The gap running down the middle of the blade would be fully covered by the handle when closed. It looks like an automatic knife, with a mechanism in the handle, which the State’s Attorney would have identified as illegal under MD law. Pretty sure that blogger is just making shit up.

I’ll take your word for it. Like I said I have never seen that type of knife. Do you or anyone know what that style of knife is called for my own education?

235 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 3:25:24pm

re: #234 ObserverArt

I’ll take your word for it. Like I said I have never seen that type of knife. Do you or anyone know what that style of knife is called for my own education?

That blogger probably just took a picture of his own piece of shit flea market auto knife. The gap running down the middle of the blade just weakens it with no benefit. My name for it is tacti-cool dumbshittery.

236 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 3:27:34pm

///

237 makeitstop  May 5, 2015 3:34:58pm

To anyone who is interested - Mumford & Sons are playing and talking about their new album on XFM London.

As Lidane said the other day, there are lots of electric guitars and full drums on every track so far. It sounds like they’ve reached their ‘Dylan goes electric’ phase.

And although I haven’t really liked them that much to this point, I’ve got to admit that this record sounds damned good.

238 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 3:35:49pm

oh dear…

239 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 3:36:43pm

I consider it a loss for Arpaio.

240 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 3:37:26pm

re: #234 ObserverArt

I’ll take your word for it. Like I said I have never seen that type of knife. Do you or anyone know what that style of knife is called for my own education?

I wish my old knife collecting/acclaimed NYC chef pal Keith was still alive. He could answer that question. He was born and raised in the school of hard knocks, Bakersfield, CA division, and was politically to the right of Mussolini, but other than that he was a total sweetheart. And boy did he know about knives. Needless to say, he scared the shit out a lot of his very talented artist wife’s more sensitive and pc friends, not one of whom can recite a single line from Sergio Leone’s movies, whereas Keith could recite them all. I miss that crazy funny redneck.

241 Kragar  May 5, 2015 3:38:39pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

242 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 3:38:50pm

re: #218 Kragar

I don’t think its possible either.

No way in hell Chuck is ending anyone’s career.

Well, his own.

243 Great White Snark  May 5, 2015 3:38:52pm

re: #231 goddamnedfrank

If that thing is spring loaded to pop open it would be illegal here in California. But I carry a Spyderco “Police” rescue design folder. 3.9’ blade, serrated with a big tang on the bottom. Designed to be able to pop door glass on cars and cut seatbelts/airbag/seat cushion to effect a rescue. I wonder if that would get me arrested in MD?

244 Kragar  May 5, 2015 3:40:26pm

re: #243 Great White Snark

If that thing is spring loaded to pop open it would be illegal here in California. But I carry a Spyderco “Police” rescue design folder. 3.9’ blade, serrated with a big tang on the bottom. Designed to be able to pop door glass on cars and cut seatbelts/airbag/seat cushion to effect a rescue. I wonder if that would get me arrested in MD? [Embedded image]

Are you a white guy?

245 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 3:41:21pm

re: #244 Kragar

Are you a white guy?

I was going to ask the same thing…only I was going to ask he was African-American.

246 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 3:42:15pm

I shouldn’t laugh…

247 Great White Snark  May 5, 2015 3:42:36pm

re: #244 Kragar

Are you a white guy?

Er, yes. Good point, but still wondering about the letter of the law there. Felony in NYC for example. So when I went there, it stayed the heck home. depending on white privilege can be a very bad idea.

248 makeitstop  May 5, 2015 3:45:08pm

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

I shouldn’t laugh…

Yes, you should. I am!

249 goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2015 3:45:39pm

re: #243 Great White Snark

If that thing is spring loaded to pop open it would be illegal here in California.

Automatic knives under 2” blade length are actually legal in California. This is why Benchmade produces the Impel.

250 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 3:45:54pm

re: #248 makeitstop

Yes, you should. I am!

:D

It really is pathetic.
He has NO FRIENDS in DC and has to beg on twitter.

251 Great White Snark  May 5, 2015 3:47:41pm

Amateur photogs may find this Page helpful as they grow in skills and gear. Navigating the authorities and demands for permits etc.

252 makeitstop  May 5, 2015 3:49:16pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

:D

It really is pathetic.
He has NO FRIENDS in DC and has to beg on twitter.

I’ll admit, there are times when I almost feel a smidgen of sympathy for that dude.

It goes away once I remember how he treats everyone who isn’t him.

253 Great White Snark  May 5, 2015 3:49:56pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

:D

It really is pathetic.
He has NO FRIENDS in DC and has to beg on twitter.

All those followers and no friends. Hahahaha. Reap what you sow you lowlife cretin.

254 allegro  May 5, 2015 3:50:13pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

:D

It really is pathetic.
He has NO FRIENDS in DC and has to beg on twitter.

What about all his FBI and Pentagon buddies who are always leaking info to him? Could they be…. imaginary?!

255 Kragar  May 5, 2015 3:56:17pm
256 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 3:59:04pm

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

I shouldn’t laugh…

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I guess Mr. Murray didn’t take him up on his drink offer. Or c-span on his offer to appear on TV. Or any of the other “well-fed right” who he was trying to suck up to for interviews.

Wait—he’s been in DC since yesterday afternoon, but his first scheduled event is at midnight tonight? And what type of event is scheduled for midnight on Tuesday?

(Also—did he have any particular purpose for being in Dallas? Other than his desire to interview the Ebola nurse, which obviously was a total non-starter.

257 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 3:59:52pm

Man, this guy has some serious screws loose - J.K. Trotter is the guy he was threatening to sue a few months ago.

258 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 3:59:57pm

Here’s something I find funny (in a deranged sort of way). We can’t own/carry a knife that that opens at the flick of the wrist or the push of a button. But we can own a firearm (if properly licensed or permitted) that not only reloads itself, but fires a round with each squeeze of the trigger

WHY!

259 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 4:00:44pm

re: #252 makeitstop

I’ll admit, there are times when I almost feel a smidgen of sympathy for that dude.

It goes away once I remember how he treats everyone who isn’t him.

I’m hard-hearted—have never had even a smidgen of sympathy for him.

260 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 4:01:37pm

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

I shouldn’t laugh…

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Find a gutter. You should feel right at home

261 Kragar  May 5, 2015 4:02:24pm
262 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 4:02:41pm
263 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 4:04:09pm

re: #256 BeachDem

And what type of event is ever scheduled for midnight on Tuesday?

FTFY. No charge. : )

264 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 4:06:14pm
265 allegro  May 5, 2015 4:06:19pm

re: #263 Justanotherhuman

And what type of event is ever scheduled for midnight on Tuesday?

FTFY. No charge. : )

That’s when the free shelters open so he doesn’t have to find a box under a bridge?

266 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 4:07:59pm

re: #262 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs

[crickets chirping]

[a lone tumbleweed blows past]

[coyote howls in the distance]

7:02 PM - 5 May 2015

Are you sure you aren’t picking up the sounds inside his head. Like the ocean inside a conch shell?

267 RealityBasedSteve  May 5, 2015 4:08:32pm

re: #263 Justanotherhuman

And what type of event is ever scheduled for midnight on Tuesday?

FTFY. No charge. : )

That’s when the nice girl on Craigslist said she’d be over.

RBS

268 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 4:09:10pm

re: #265 allegro

That’s when the free shelters open so he doesn’t have to find a box under a bridge?

Touché!

269 Kragar  May 5, 2015 4:09:35pm
270 wrenchwench  May 5, 2015 4:09:57pm
271 allegro  May 5, 2015 4:11:28pm

re: #268 Justanotherhuman

Touché!

Seriously, that $1000 he got from the Hillary grift has gotta be gone by now.

272 Kragar  May 5, 2015 4:12:02pm
273 BeachDem  May 5, 2015 4:12:44pm

[crickets chirping]

[a lone tumbleweed blows past]

[coyote howls in the distance]

Buehler? Buehler? Anyone?

Hey, Ben Stein would probably meet up with him!

274 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 4:14:10pm

re: #233 Bubblehead II

They haven’t crystallized by now?

As Ashford & Simpson used to sing, they’re harder than a rock.

275 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 4:15:53pm

re: #274 De Kolta Chair

As Ashford & Simpson used to sing, they’re harder than a rock.

LOL.

276 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 4:19:18pm

re: #275 Bubblehead II

LOL.

Mia sposa has collected hundreds of those things over the years and I’ve never seen her eat a single one.

277 Kragar  May 5, 2015 4:20:19pm
278 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 4:21:20pm

re: #271 allegro

Seriously, that $1000 he got from the Hillary grift has gotta be gone by now.

Yeah, he drank that up in TX, no doubt.

279 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 4:22:15pm

re: #276 De Kolta Chair

Mia sposa has collected dozens of those things over the years and I’ve never seen her eat a single one.

Well, they were trendy once…

280 allegro  May 5, 2015 4:23:19pm

re: #277 Kragar

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She doesn’t quite snap to the definition of “domestic” terrorist threats does she?

281 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 4:23:54pm

re: #277 Kragar

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Isis is a female goddess + Hillary Clinton is a female = Hillary Clinton is a terrorist.

I’d better copyright that before Huckabee starts spouting it.

282 darthstar  May 5, 2015 4:24:38pm

re: #271 allegro

Seriously, that $1000 he got from the Hillary grift has gotta be gone by now.

$1,055! And I don’t believe you can draw from a gofundme drive until you’ve reached your goal, or else it gets refunded.

283 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 4:24:47pm

re: #281 De Kolta Chair

I’m old enough to remember when Isis was a women’s stocking brand.

284 allegro  May 5, 2015 4:25:44pm

re: #282 darthstar

$1,055! And I don’t believe you can draw from a gofundme drive until you’ve reached your goal, or else it gets refunded.

I figured gofundme would get a cut. Didn’t know about the goal/refund part.

285 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 4:27:06pm

Undercover New York police detective accused of taking part in motorcycle gang’s assault of driver on West Side Highway planned mayhem, colleague testifies - @nytimes
nytimes.com

286 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 4:27:11pm

New term for children that make it to term and lives to disagree with the RWNG.

Womb Turd.

287 TedStriker  May 5, 2015 4:27:43pm

re: #274 De Kolta Chair

As Ashford & Simpson used to sing, they’re harder than solid as a rock.

FTFY…

288 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 4:28:11pm

re: #272 Kragar

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Note: that isn’t in rural Kentucky, it’s in Indiana.

289 Kragar  May 5, 2015 4:28:30pm

re: #280 allegro

She doesn’t quite snap to the definition of “domestic” terrorist threats does she?

Half the fun of deliberately missing the point they’re trying to make is getting them to clarify their statement.

290 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 4:29:53pm

He (and we) know what you meant, you sorry racist simpleton.

291 darthstar  May 5, 2015 4:34:34pm

re: #284 allegro

I figured gofundme would get a cut. Didn’t know about the goal/refund part.

Never mind…I was wrong:

Once your fundraising campaign begins receiving online donations, you can easily request a withdrawal at any time. Don’t worry, withdrawing money does not affect the progress meter that’s displayed on your GoFundMe campaign. Simply click the ‘Withdraw’ button inside your GoFundMe account and follow the on-screen instructions. You can withdraw your balance directly to your bank account. US users may also request a check.

So yeah, that thousand dollars is spent…minus 5% commission + a 3% admin fee.

292 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 4:34:59pm

This is how competent prosecutor Bob McCulloch’s office is.

293 Bubblehead II  May 5, 2015 4:35:10pm

Need help lizard. There is a GIF showing “concerned” xiatins protecting the fetus and them denouncing it as a moocher after it born. Where the heck is it?

294 TedStriker  May 5, 2015 4:38:44pm

re: #292 Justanotherhuman

This is how competent prosecutor Bob McCulloch’s office is.

Brownie Bob, you’re doing a heck of a job.”

295 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 4:42:53pm

Jesushchristonabiscuit.

How the fuck do you just “forget” about someone you’re holding in a cell?

296 Kragar  May 5, 2015 4:44:23pm
297 allegro  May 5, 2015 4:46:03pm

re: #295 Justanotherhuman

Jesushchristonabiscuit.

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How the fuck do you just “forget” about someone you’re holding in a cell?

One would think someone would have wandered by in that time. Hello? HELLOOOOO! Anyone out there?

It does defy explanation.

298 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2015 4:50:10pm

re: #296 Kragar

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299 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 4:50:46pm

Unbelievable.

300 Patricia Kayden  May 5, 2015 4:52:17pm

re: #81 Nyet

Watched the entire movie on YT but didn’t get it. Preferred Solaris (although I like the Clooney version better than the original).

301 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 4:57:16pm

I’m totally into Carly memes.

302 Skip Intro  May 5, 2015 4:57:20pm

re: #258 Bubblehead II

Here’s something I find funny (in a deranged sort of way). We can’t own/carry a knife that that opens at the flick of the wrist or the push of a button. But we can own a firearm (if properly licensed or permitted) that not only reloads itself, but fires a round with each squeeze of the trigger

WHY!

Because the National Knife Association has yet to get its shit together?

303 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 5:01:08pm

re: #299 Justanotherhuman

Unbelievable.

Translation: WTF?

304 No Country For Old Haters  May 5, 2015 5:04:44pm

re: #295 Justanotherhuman

Jesushchristonabiscuit.

[Embedded content]

How the fuck do you just “forget” about someone you’re holding in a cell?

By not having procedures in place to prevent it. People are extremely flaky. We forget babies in cars, leave bags and briefcases on our cars and drive off, and now we forget people in cells. We are not as aware as we think we are, and are obviously just pretty smart apes that do dumb things all the time.

305 Skip Intro  May 5, 2015 5:04:54pm

This is why they need big tax cuts.

Comcast spent $336 million on failed attempt to buy Time Warner Cable

And Time Warner Cable spent $219 million of its own.

arstechnica.com

306 RealityBasedSteve  May 5, 2015 5:07:22pm

re: #302 Skip Intro

Because the National Knife Association has yet to get its shit together?

Death Quad Liner Lock Knife

They better, or the liebuls will outlaw our “Death Quad Liner Lock Knives” (and yes, this is a real thing. Available online for only 11.99, so you know it’s made of the very finest of steel(ish) based materials)

RBS

307 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 5:08:21pm
Obama teleprompter bla de bla de cha cha cha
308 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 5:08:54pm
309 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 5:09:22pm

re: #307 De Kolta Chair

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“Freedom Summit”?

Bwahahahaha!

310 Skip Intro  May 5, 2015 5:10:44pm

In a piece I read today about poor Pamela Geller and her brush with death, the writer mentioned LGF, calling it a conservative site.

No wonder CCJ thinks he’s a journalist.

311 Belafon  May 5, 2015 5:12:02pm

re: #308 Charles Johnson

You misspelled humping. It doesn’t begin with a t.

312 jaunte  May 5, 2015 5:12:10pm

re: #200 Charles Johnson

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Hi Betsy. Tamir Rice was not a “girl”

That alone should embarrass her off Twitter, but no.

313 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 5:13:23pm

re: #312 jaunte

That alone should embarrass her off Twitter, but no.

Nothing embarrasses Betsy Rothstein. She’s hard core.

314 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 5:15:47pm

re: #310 Skip Intro

In a piece I read today about poor Pamela Geller and her brush with death, the writer mentioned LGF, calling it a conservative site.

No wonder CCJ thinks he’s a journalist.

Was that the New York Times article? I saw that too, and actually wrote to the author about that description. He apologized and said he was limited to 600 words and couldn’t say anything more. I also complained that he didn’t mention that I renounced Geller and her crew years ago.

In fact, maybe I should write a post about this just to get it on the record.

315 Skip Intro  May 5, 2015 5:15:59pm

In case anyone was wondering what the Senate has been up to, here’s a short summary:

The Senate on Tuesday adopted a GOP budget that paves the way for an assault on President Barack Obama’s health care law this summer and a partisan showdown over spending bills this fall.

The Senate passed the nonbinding measure by a nearly party-line 51-48 vote. The House adopted it last week.

The measure sets a potential path for a balanced budget within a decade. It promises to cut domestic agencies and safety net programs like Medicaid and food stamps, carve up transportation spending and student aid, and curb tax breaks for the poor.

Read more here: sanluisobispo.com

316 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 5:17:24pm

José Guadalupe Posada

317 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 5:19:34pm

re: #315 Skip Intro

In case anyone was wondering what the Senate has been up to, here’s a short summary:

Read more here: sanluisobispo.com

Sounds like the Republicans are trying to foment a revolution of the 99%, doesn’t it?

318 No Country For Old Haters  May 5, 2015 5:19:41pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

Was that the New York Times article? I saw that too, and actually wrote to the author about that description. He apologized and said he was limited to 600 words and couldn’t say anything more. I also complained that he didn’t mention that I renounced Geller and her crew years ago.

In fact, maybe I should write a post about this just to get it on the record.

I’d also write a letter to the editor at the Times.

319 Snarknado!  May 5, 2015 5:20:41pm

re: #315 Skip Intro

Yeah, I posted when the House passed it. As I said, if you have any Republican friends left, rub their noses in it.

320 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 5:21:08pm
321 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 5:22:41pm

I’m not a big Elton John fan, but by the power of Grayskull, this rocks

322 ObserverArt  May 5, 2015 5:24:10pm

I think Huck’s gonna be fun.

He caters just enough to the middle class and lower with nice fat statements on never cutting social security or allowing it to be privatized. Hopefully he has other such off-the-beaten-GOP-path gems to wreak havoc in the debates and screw all of them up. And then he offers enough over-the-top Evangelical stuff to make other Republicans take him to task to get the moderate (?) GOP votes at the cost of the RWNJs.

In other words, I hope they all out crazy each other enough that none of them come out looking good to America. The GOP deserves it, and maybe it will hasten the time they either get reality back in or tear the damn thing down and completely clean out the trash.

323 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 5, 2015 5:24:55pm

Ant update: after nary a sign of ants for 3 days, there are 20+ wandering around the bathroom.

Bait is back out (cleaners had picked it up yesterday and tossed it), and I will probably swing by the grocery store to get peanut butter and make up some protein bait to go out with the sweet stuff. Floor has been mopped AGAIN.

There are days I could just burn the whole thing down. >.>

324 Skip Intro  May 5, 2015 5:25:49pm

I just read that William Shatner has stolen my idea about how to solve the CA water crisis: build a pipeline from Washington State.

CA state water officials are having none of it, though. They’re sticking to their four year plan of praying for rain.

325 Charles Johnson  May 5, 2015 5:26:14pm

re: #321 De Kolta Chair

Elton John’s first live album 11-17-70 was absolutely fantastic.

326 Skip Intro  May 5, 2015 5:26:25pm

re: #323 klys (maker of Silmarils)

They’re looking for water.

327 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 5:28:45pm

re: #325 Charles Johnson

Elton John’s first live album 11-17-70 was absolutely fantastic.

Absolutely!

It’s like trying to find gold in a silver mine
It’s like trying to drink whisky from a bottle of wine

328 Belafon  May 5, 2015 5:31:23pm

If you’re a Taco Bueno fan, the founder died today at age 79. One of the few good things to come out of Abilene, my home town (I, on the other hand, tried to get out of there as fast as I could). I still remember how the first Bueno was laid out.

329 Justanotherhuman  May 5, 2015 5:31:29pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm… : )

330 The Pie Mother  May 5, 2015 5:32:40pm

Welp, not too many people turned out to vote on Proposal One, Gov. Snydley Nerdlash’s bill to FIX TEH ROADS (& OTHER STUFF) BY RAISING SALES TAX!!!!!!1!!

As results are coming in, Michigan voters do not like that sales tax. No they do not.

331 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 5:33:15pm

re: #329 Justanotherhuman

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm… : )

;-)
332 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  May 5, 2015 5:45:13pm

re: #325 Charles Johnson

Elton John’s first live album 11-17-70 was absolutely fantastic.

I was going to go to youtube to catch some of it but there was a link on the home page I hit for the heck of it. I had totally forgotten how incredible Doc Severinson was (and it’s got 70s Vegas in all its glory):

Ok NOW I’ll try to look for Elton John. FWIW I generally prefer live recordings, (except the Rolling Stones or Rod Stewart) because there’s just more vitality

333 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 5:46:08pm

“The Star Spangled Banner” is impossible to sing, so may I suggest replacing it with Chuck Berry’s “Promised Land”?

334 makeitstop  May 5, 2015 5:49:58pm

re: #325 Charles Johnson

Elton John’s first live album 11-17-70 was absolutely fantastic.

I saw that lineup of the band (minus Davey) in their first East Coast show - at the old Electric Factory in Philly, opening up for The Faces.

EJ came out on stage in yellow overalls and gold lame Doc Martens, and everybody was like ‘Who’s this guy?’ An hour later, everybody knew.

Even Rod The Mod had a hard time following him that night.

335 Jenner7  May 5, 2015 6:00:05pm

Utah National Guard Dismisses Possible Military Takeover Of Utah

talkingpointsmemo.com

Damn! I so wanted to be taken over….

336 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 6:06:23pm
337 De Kolta Chair  May 5, 2015 6:07:28pm
338 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 5, 2015 7:55:52pm

HappyWarrior, in reply to your #47 and Nyet’s replies, Arabic did influence peninsular Spanish quite a bit, since the Arabs occupied a large part of the Iberian peninsula during the early Middle Ages.

The Spanish article “el” is in fact derived from the Arabic “al.” The definite article in Latin would have been expressed by declining the noun, not by preceding it with an article. Some Spanish expessions also come from Arabic. For example, “Ojala!” or “Ojala que si!” (I hope so!) comes from the Arabic “Inshallah” (If Allah so wills).

My Spanish professors told me all this, and I think my memory still is accurate.

Replying from my office computer, which for some reason will not let me use the Quote and Reply buttons.


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