Breitbart’s John Nolte Says Bill O’Reilly is Nuts, Pamela Geller Is Just Like Jesus

Nolte says Jesus was a vandal
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At Breitbart “News” tonight, deranged “editor” John Nolte (who doesn’t actually “edit” anything) denies he’s comparing hate group leader Pamela Geller to Jesus Christ, as he compares Pamela Geller to Jesus Christ: Dear Bill O’Reilly: Jesus Insulted Religion a Lot More Than Pamela Geller Has.

Jesus provoked, attacked, insulted, divided, offended and called evil by its name at every opportunity.

Jesus was a lawbreaker, a vandal, a name-caller, a provocateur who taunted those who perverted a religion to control and oppress and mislead others.

Does any of this sound at all familiar?

When brutal savages told Christ he could not do something, He did it. When brutal savages told Martin Luther King he could not do something, he did it.

I am in no way comparing Pam Geller, who I do not know, to Jesus Christ. No one, not even Martin Luther King, compares to Jesus Christ. That’s not my point.

My point is that Christ is our example here on Earth. He showed us how to fight for a righteous cause against evil, and there is no question Pam Geller is coloring well within those lines. She is also willingly risking her own life.

Our media elites are attacking Geller over cartoons!

Imagine their reaction if she walked into a radical mosque, overturned a few tables, and called them a den of vipers.

What would Jesus do, indeed.

Nolte is freaking out because Bill O’Reilly and Fox News have apparently made an editorial decision to distance themselves from hate-spewer Pamela Geller. Or to pretend to distance themselves from her, at any rate, because other Fox figureheads like Sean Hannity continue to promote the divisive, bigoted ideology she represents.

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1 Great White Snark  May 8, 2015 7:14:47pm
2 GlutenFreeJesus  May 8, 2015 7:16:12pm

OT but this is on 20/20 right now…

3 freetoken  May 8, 2015 7:20:07pm
When brutal savages told Christ he could not do something, He did it.

Funny. All the versions of the NT I have read mentioned nothing about “brutal savages”.

Not that the NT is accurate - it’s anything but good history as we understand historiography today.

The Roman elite were the high society of the day.
Roman officers were educated.
Sanhedrin were the upper crust of local society.
The Pharisees were the educated elite of local society.

The only “savages” were the rebels… er… those who became the “Christians” of the first century.

4 Amory Blaine  May 8, 2015 7:20:20pm

Conservatives are doing their very best to turn Jesus into a whack job just like themselves.

5 Iwouldprefernotto  May 8, 2015 7:20:35pm

Geller and Jesus are both Jewish. Jesus turns water into wine. Geller loves to drink, so yes, it works.

6 goddamnedfrank  May 8, 2015 7:25:41pm
She is also willingly risking her own life.

It’s more like she’s willingly risking other people’s lives. The extra security and police her events mandate carry the bulk of the actual burden for her.

7 CuriousLurker  May 8, 2015 7:27:29pm

From the article:

My point is that Christ is our example here on Earth. He showed us how to fight for a righteous cause against evil, and there is no question Pam Geller is coloring well within those lines. She is also willingly risking her own life. […]

So it was cool when Jesus was fighting against the evil Jew vipers (Pharisees), therefore Geller, who’s Jewish… wait, what?

I knew I shouldn’t have peeked back in here.

8 Charles Johnson  May 8, 2015 7:29:30pm

I didn’t even get into the comments for this horrible Breitbart post. They’re nauseatingly insane, of course.

9 CuriousLurker  May 8, 2015 7:31:06pm

re: #3 freetoken

Funny. All the versions of the NT I have read mentioned nothing about “brutal savages”.

Not that the NT is accurate - it’s anything but good history as we understand historiography today.

The Roman elite were the high society of the day.
Roman officers were educated.
Sanhedrin were the upper crust of local society.
The Pharisees were the educated elite of local society.

The only “savages” were the rebels… er… those who became the “Christians” of the first century.

Yeah, I was wondering where he pulled that “brutal savages” from. Seems like he got Geller’s transit posters confused with the Bible.

10 William Lewis  May 8, 2015 7:40:38pm

re: #3 freetoken

Well, it’s not quite as simple as that. You do have to take into account the various historical events (rebellions, destruction of the temple, the arguments between followers of Paul vs followers of James as to the “correct” path, the falling out between the synagogue goers that believed that Jesus was the messiah and those who didn’t and the desire to avoid offending Roman sensibilities once it was obvious that the world wouldn’t end during the lifetimes of those present at the Teaching) lead to some very distinctly non-historical takes in the later written gospels. There are considerable differences between the earliest works (certain of the epistles, the Didache) and the later written gospels. That they maintain as much in common as they do is a testament (heh) to how well oral traditions preserve teachings in older cultures.

11 jaunte  May 8, 2015 7:47:48pm

Re Nolte and Jesus:

A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries after they’re dead.
~Leo Rosten

12 Bubblehead II  May 8, 2015 7:48:01pm

re: #3 freetoken

Funny. All the versions of the NT I have read mentioned nothing about “brutal savages”.

Not that the NT is accurate - it’s anything but good history as we understand historiography today.

The Roman elite were the high society of the day.
Roman officers were educated.
Sanhedrin were the upper crust of local society.
The Pharisees were the educated elite of local society.

The only “savages” were the rebels… er… those who became the “Christians” of the first century.

Noticed that as well. BRUTAL SAVAGES. Let’s dehumanize an entire population/ethnic/social/religious group just because we don’t like them. Gee, I wonder who else has done that in the past and who is doing it know?

Yeah, I know. Pulling a Godwin. But in this case, I think it is appropriate.

13 BigPapa  May 8, 2015 7:51:50pm

Jesus was Jewish.

Pamela Geller is Jewish.

Yep, totally the same.

14 Lidane  May 8, 2015 7:53:36pm

I had my first run-in with a genuine Geller fan today. It was weird and creepy. These people really do live in their own world.

I pointed out her denials of Srebrenica. Her praise of Stalin’s forced relocation and genocide of Chechen Muslims. Her ties to Euro far-right fascists and white supremacists. And so on.

I got told that I was making up lies to slander and defame her because she’s an anti-jihad activist and I’m a terrorist sympathizing, ISIS loving librul commie.

What. The. Fuck.

15 jaunte  May 8, 2015 7:54:59pm

re: #14 Lidane

Was it a real life encounter, or online?

16 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 7:58:20pm

re: #14 Lidane

I had my first run-in with a genuine Geller fan today. It was weird and creepy. These people really do live in their own world.

I pointed out her denials of Srebrenica. Her praise of Stalin’s forced relocation and genocide of Chechen Muslims. Her ties to Euro far-right fascists and white supremacists. And so on.

I got told that I was making up lies to slander and defame her because she’s an anti-jihad activist and I’m a terrorist sympathizing, ISIS loving librul commie.

What. The. Fuck.

What, you were expecting a well-informed and rational racist? Well, no soup for you!

Any opportunity to gig the Shrieking Harpy should be embraced, but understand that any of her supporters is a RoUS.

17 jaunte  May 8, 2015 7:58:56pm

FBI Director James Comey said on Thursday that the bureau had learned Simpson might be traveling to the “Draw Muhammad” event and sent a warning a few hours ahead of time, though the FBI didn’t have evidence of a plot, according to NBC News.

Comey added that he didn’t think the officer who ultimately shot Simpson and Soofi Nadi, the second gunman, had seen the bulletin.

18 Lidane  May 8, 2015 7:59:06pm

re: #15 jaunte

Was it a real life encounter, or online?

Online, over at Mediaite.

Some thread about Pam, can’t remember which one. Person comes in spamming every conceivable debunked conspiracy about Muslims (No go zones! Sharia law in Michigan! Etc.) and video after video after video of propaganda supposedly making Pam’s case and saying that people just hate her because she’s anti-jihad.

I point out all the creepy shit Pam has said and all the stuff she supports. And I’m the one making shit up, apparently. Very, very weird.

19 Bubblehead II  May 8, 2015 8:03:51pm

Night Lizards.

20 Lumberhead  May 8, 2015 8:08:43pm

“provoked, attacked, insulted, divided, offended… was a lawbreaker, a vandal, a name-caller, a provocateur”

Seems like an apt description of Al Sharpton, does Nolte support him as well?

21 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 8, 2015 8:09:34pm

UpChuck has filed an appeal to the Missouri Supreme Court to have Michael Brown’s juvie records released. I haven’t read the entire petition yet, but the main point seems to be MO law does not say anything about a person retaining those rights of privacy after he’s dead.

Scribd Document

22 Who Watches the Watchmen?  May 8, 2015 8:12:44pm

Do any of these people really believe what they’re saying, or is it all show biz?

23 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 8, 2015 8:26:15pm

re: #22 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Do any of these people really believe what they’re saying, or is it all show biz?

Honestly, it’s hard to tell sometimes. Glenn Beck, being a former shock jock, has probably honed his shtick onto performance art. But he’s so convincing in his delivery, that one could also assume he’s totally bonkers. Same with Rushbo. Like Beck, he knows what sells, so he offers his listeners just what they want. But Rushbo probably believes at least half of what he spouts. Beck probably says stuff like, “that’ll hold those little fuckers for awhile” once he’s off air.

24 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 8:29:35pm

re: #17 jaunte

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So they knew there were threats on their event and went through it anyhow. Great job Pam. Really, she has a right to free speech but it seems to me that she doesn’t care if people get hurt because of what she does. She’s a walking example of the person yelling fire in the theater.

25 jaunte  May 8, 2015 8:30:49pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

It does seem terribly ironic that she’s looking to create martyrs.

26 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 8, 2015 8:32:24pm

re: #25 jaunte

It does seem terribly ironic that she’s looking to create martyrs.

I would hate to think it were true, but if someone (besides the shooters) had been killed, Geller would have been perfectly happy to use their death as justification for even more hate speech.

27 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 8:38:33pm

I’d like her friends to stop acting like she’s some champion of freedom. She’s totally against Muslims having the right to worship in this country which is a freedom. Not to mention she’s an ally of Eurofascists who aren’t exactly friendly to speech by those who aren’t Eurofascists and of course she’s defended Serbian war criminals on many an ocassion. Her hatred directed at Muslims is no different than the hatred directed at Jews and blacks by Neo-Nazis (who she is allied with despite her being Jewish) and the KKK.

28 Ian G.  May 8, 2015 8:38:34pm

Heh. I posted the Geller-Choudary screaming match on my Facebook profile and compared it to Jerry Springer and referred to both Geller and Choudary as “fascist maniacs”. Someone was utterly appalled that I would compared Geller to Choudary (I guess this guy is a fan of hers, he leans right, but I always figured that it was a Wall street Swinging dick kind of right, not a paranoid “the Muslims are coming!” kind of right).

So I went to look for incriminating stuff on Geller, and boy, it’s really easy to find her insane gibberish defending the persecuted martyrs Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic, and her sweeping denial of the massacre at Srebrenica. She doesn’t do any talking out of both sides of her mouth, she screams the genocide denial from the top of her lungs at her blog!

Let’s see if I get any response….

29 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 8:41:47pm

re: #28 Ian G.

Heh. I posted the Geller-Choudary screaming match on my Facebook profile and compared it to Jerry Springer and referred to both Geller and Choudary as “fascist maniacs”. Someone was utterly appalled that I would compared Geller to Choudary (I guess this guy is a fan of hers, he leans right, but I always figured that it was a Wall street Swinging dick kind of right, not a paranoid “the Muslims are coming!” kind of right).

So I went to look for incriminating stuff on Geller, and boy, it’s really easy to find her insane gibberish defending the persecuted martyrs Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic, and her sweeping denial of the massacre at Srebrenica. She doesn’t do any talking out of both sides of her mouth, she screams the genocide denial from the top of her lungs at her blog!

Let’s see if I get any response….

The Karadzic and Mladic defenses I think show you how disgusting she really is. I hope you do get a response. Maybe this guy will realize that Geller is just as bad as Choudary. Really how pathetic is Hannity to pull that kind of crap? I guess Hannity’s too afraid to find an American Muslim who unlike Sean and Pam actually respects the tradition of church and state being separated. Really if you’re as worried about Shariah as they claim to be, then you shouldn’t favor making church and state together. Well if you’re an as dangerous religious fanatic as people like Choundary are, I guess you would.

30 Belafon  May 8, 2015 8:42:45pm

According to my sister, who does procurement for the Navy, and my Air Force brother-in-law, who’s stationed in Germany, Texas is now the laughing stock of the military.

I would be annoyed, being in Texas, but I’ve been here most of my 45 years and I totally understand it. Conservatives can’t kick the black man out of office, so they’ve gone entirely stupid in their rage.

31 GlutenFreeJesus  May 8, 2015 8:44:47pm

Dropped Geller off at the FLDS compound to be a seed bearer but they returned her saying she was too fucking crazy. Even for them.

32 WhatEVs  May 8, 2015 8:44:57pm

re: #30 Belafon

According to my sister, who does procurement for the Navy, and my Air Force brother-in-law, who’s stationed in Germany, Texas is now the laughing stock of the military.

I would be annoyed, being in Texas, but I’ve been here most of my 45 years and I totally understand it. Conservatives can’t kick the black man out of office, so they’ve gone entirely stupid in their rage.

Well deserved.

33 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 8:45:56pm

re: #26 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I would hate to think it were true, but if someone (besides the shooters) had been killed, Geller would have been perfectly happy to use their death as justification for even more hate speech.

Of course she would. It would have proven her point (all Muslins are killers!), despite the fact that The Shrieking Harpie had tossed gobbets of red meat into a dog park.

She’s a provocateur with no shame or conscience. Geert Wilders must have had a spontaneous ejaculation in his pants, being in the company of such a perfect fellow traveller.

34 Varek Raith  May 8, 2015 8:46:31pm

I just bought 15 jade helms.

35 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 8:46:37pm

What was Geller doing before she found her niche in anti-Muslim conspiracy crap? Did not hear at all about her in the Bush years where in fairness to the last Republican president, he was not espousing the bigoted rhetoric you see directed at Muslims from many in his party today.

36 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 8:47:01pm

re: #34 Varek Raith

I just bought 15 jade helms.

Well I asked her if I could her a drink so there.//

37 Ian G.  May 8, 2015 8:47:43pm

re: #30 Belafon

According to my sister, who does procurement for the Navy, and my Air Force brother-in-law, who’s stationed in Germany, Texas is now the laughing stock of the military.

You know, Texas’ economy is already in deep doo-doo with oil prices where they are. The last thing they should be doing is making an ass of themselves in front of the other big pillar of their economy, the military. Seriously, how many jobs/how much money does Ft. Hood alone pour into that state annually?

38 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 8:48:00pm

Whatever happened to her British buddy, Tommy Robinson too. I remember hearing lol that he had seen the error of his ways but that just sounded laughable given the source.

39 Mattand  May 8, 2015 8:49:57pm

re: #30 Belafon

According to my sister, who does procurement for the Navy, and my Air Force brother-in-law, who’s stationed in Germany, Texas is now the laughing stock of the military.

I would be annoyed, being in Texas, but I’ve been here most of my 45 years and I totally understand it. Conservatives can’t kick the black man out of office, so they’ve gone entirely stupid in their rage.

I would imagine the video of the TX teabag civilians essentially calling a high ranking officer a liar about Jade Helm 15 went over well.

40 BigPapa  May 8, 2015 8:51:57pm

I just ate a Jade Helm sandwich.

15 ounces of Texas BBQ on a po boy wrapped tightly in half a roll of aluminum foil.

41 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 8:52:29pm

re: #40 BigPapa

I just ate a Jade Helm sandwich.

15 ounces of Texas BBQ on a po boy wrapped tightly in half a roll of aluminum foil.

Did it come with a side of GOHMERT!

42 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 8:54:01pm

re: #30 Belafon

According to my sister, who does procurement for the Navy, and my Air Force brother-in-law, who’s stationed in Germany, Texas is now the laughing stock of the military.

I would be annoyed, being in Texas, but I’ve been here most of my 45 years and I totally understand it. Conservatives can’t kick the black man out of office, so they’ve gone entirely stupid in their rage.

Which is odd, given the military presence here. Several Army divisions, the HQ of the Air Training Command, Navy flight training bases, and the manufacturer of all F-35s…

Now, if they said that the Texas *governor* was the laughing stock over the Jade Helm/Alex Jones crap debacle, I’d be right there.

43 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 8:55:06pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

What was Geller doing before she found her niche in anti-Muslim conspiracy crap? Did not hear at all about her in the Bush years where in fairness to the last Republican president, he was not espousing the bigoted rhetoric you see directed at Muslims from many in his party today.

She was just Atlas Jugs.

44 Varek Raith  May 8, 2015 8:55:09pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Did it come with a side of GOHMERT!

Did you cast aspersions on it?

45 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 8:56:55pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Did it come with a side of GOHMERT!

No. GOHMERT is toxic if you have nut allergies.

(See what I did there?)

46 Belafon  May 8, 2015 8:58:22pm

re: #42 austin_blue

Which is odd, given the military presence here. Several Army divisions, the HQ of the Air Training Command, Navy flight training bases, and the manufacturer of all F-35s…

Now, if they said that the Texas *governor* was the laughing stock over the Jade Helm/Alex Jones crap debacle, I’d be right there.

My sister first found out about it because friends of my parents posted on facebook that the Army was marching through Texas. It’s not just the governor that believes this nonsense.

47 jaunte  May 8, 2015 9:00:08pm

re: #45 austin_blue

Rep. Gohmert: Obama To Blame For Jade Helm 15 Conspiracy Theories
rightwingwatch.org

“…This is a cause of concern because the military and the United States president is not doing enough to explain why they consider part of the United States hostile.”

48 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 9:00:18pm

re: #44 Varek Raith

Did you cast aspersions on it?

It makes your pee smell funny and see Shariah in a president who likes BBQ pork and microbrews.

49 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 9:00:54pm

re: #47 jaunte

Rep. Gohmert: Obama To Blame For Jade Helm 15 Conspiracy Theorieshttp://rightwingwatch.org

NO, Louie, it’s because of stupid idiots like you who will believe and spread any conspiracy about this president because they’re too incompetent to actually lead.

50 jaunte  May 8, 2015 9:02:03pm

Jade Helm left-right nutjob convergence:

51 RealityBasedSteve  May 8, 2015 9:02:46pm

I think I may be clinically insane. I’m basing that statement on the fact that tomorrow, on a day that is probably going to be 80* plus I’m going to put on heavy weight 400 gm. fleece longjohns, top that off with what is functionally a rubber sweatsuit and go jump into water with a temp of 55 - 44 deg.

Then have a sandwich and get ready to do it again. :)

Just going for fun dives tomorrow. No class, no real responsibilities.

RBS

52 jaunte  May 8, 2015 9:04:47pm
53 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 9:05:35pm

re: #46 Belafon

My sister found out about it because friends of my parents posted of facebook that the Army was marching through Texas.

Well, that happened previously during The War Of Yankee Aggression Against The Southern Aristocracy in 1865.

Which we didn’t lose, by the way. We merely capitulated, to be resumed at a later date, of our choosing.

It appears that that place in time now looms ominously for the Union…

Dah Dah Dah!!!

54 electrotek  May 8, 2015 9:07:29pm

re: #28 Ian G.

Heh. I posted the Geller-Choudary screaming match on my Facebook profile and compared it to Jerry Springer and referred to both Geller and Choudary as “fascist maniacs”. Someone was utterly appalled that I would compared Geller to Choudary (I guess this guy is a fan of hers, he leans right, but I always figured that it was a Wall street Swinging dick kind of right, not a paranoid “the Muslims are coming!” kind of right).

So I went to look for incriminating stuff on Geller, and boy, it’s really easy to find her insane gibberish defending the persecuted martyrs Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic, and her sweeping denial of the massacre at Srebrenica. She doesn’t do any talking out of both sides of her mouth, she screams the genocide denial from the top of her lungs at her blog!

Let’s see if I get any response….

You should also post about how Anders Breivik cited Pamela Geller favorably in his manifesto multiple times, and see if he would still come to her aid after having the blood of Norwegian children on her hands.

55 electrotek  May 8, 2015 9:09:15pm

BTW what is with Orthodox Christians that support Pamela Geller who will often whine about Turkish denial of the Armenian Genocide but turn a blind eye to Serb atrocities against Bosnian Muslims?

I’ve come across A LOT of Middle Eastern Christians who will support Geller for the sole reason of still holding an axe or two to grind against Muslims for past experiences.

56 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 9:09:23pm

re: #51 RealityBasedSteve

I think I may be clinically insane. I’m basing that statement on the fact that tomorrow, on a day that is probably going to be 80* plus I’m going to put on heavy weight 400 gm. fleece longjohns, top that off with what is functionally a rubber sweatsuit and go jump into water with a temp of 55 - 44 deg.

Then have a sandwich and get ready to do it again. :)

Just going for fun dives tomorrow. No class, no real responsibilities.

RBS

Nope. You need to get on medication as soon as possible. Please, do it for the children.

And don’t get back in the water for thirty minutes after you eat the sandwich!

Love:
Mom

57 BigPapa  May 8, 2015 9:13:51pm

re: #44 Varek Raith

Did you cast aspersions on it?

It had a Cast Asparagus sauce on it.

Really green with lots of Freedom Turmeric on it.

58 BeachDem  May 8, 2015 9:14:29pm

re: #21 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

UpChuck has filed an appeal to the Missouri Supreme Court to have Michael Brown’s juvie records released. I haven’t read the entire petition yet, but the main point seems to be MO law does not say anything about a person retaining those rights of privacy after he’s dead.

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Many thoughts—first the general:

1. What the fuck does he think he’s going to prove, even if, by some strange chance, he gets to stomp on Michael Brown’s grave and pick his bones some more? What a fucking ghoul he is. Does he somehow think this is going to be his big scoop? That a year after the young man died, the ginger avenger is going to prove that he wasn’t perfect? Wow—color me impressed.

2. Can’t believe these lawyers would still be doing any of this pro bono—if they are, they’re bigger fools than upchuck.

3. I hope they just laugh in his face, as they’ve done before, and just flat out tell him to go to hell (and I hope he has had to spend a lot of his his wife’s or his idiotic donors’ money.

Now to specifics in the filing:

a professional journalist…

Well, right there in the first paragraph is one big ass lie; but I digress.

his stepfather’s long-standing status as a key lieutenant in the Bloods gang organization, or Brown’s history of violence as a juvenile delinquent. The latter two facts have been given to Relators by a series of whistleblowers…

A “series of whistleblowers?” Really? Who were they blowing the whistle on? And how does his mention of anonymous imaginary friends even factor into an actual lawsuit?

Hundreds, if not thousands of businesses closed out of fear…

Say what? When did thousands of businesses close?

Relators have received multiple communications from state and federal confidential law enforcement sources which have emphatically and repeatedly claimed to Relators that Michael Brown had an extensive and serious juvenile record, and that he was implicated and involved in murdering another person.

Again with his imaginary friends. They’ve already told him once (or maybe even twice) that no such records exist.

Relators have invested an enormous amount of time and resources into trying to determine the validity of these claims, and it thus goes without saying that Relators have found the confidential sources to be entirely credible…

That makes no sense. If the sources are entirely credible, why has the idiot invested enormous amounts of time and resources? And, if he’s invested all the time and resources, why does he not have any other validation than the words of his imaginary friends?

Whatever the case, Relators and the public have a right to this information…

NO THEY DON’T you little freak.

Ugh.

59 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 9:15:18pm

re: #54 electrotek

You should also post about how Anders Breivik cited Pamela Geller favorably in his manifesto multiple times, and see if he would still come to her aid after having the blood of Norwegian children on her hands.

As much as I loathe Pammie, that’s not fair. A bugfuck psychopath cherry picking quotes from another faith hater does not make her bloody-handed. It just confirms her as a faith hater.

Close to the queen in the Scottish tragedy, but not there.

60 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 9:16:49pm

re: #55 electrotek

BTW what is with Orthodox Christians that support Pamela Geller who will often whine about Turkish denial of the Armenian Genocide but turn a blind eye to Serb atrocities against Bosnian Muslims?

I’ve come across A LOT of Middle Eastern Christians who will support Geller for the sole reason of still holding an axe or two to grind against Muslims for past experiences.

Old hates go a long way unfortunately. Serb nationalists still remember the battle of Kosovo from 1389. But yeah i don’t get it either. then again I don’t get the point of using religion to divide people when religion should be about finding something that makes you happy but I have been accused of being too idealistic in the past.

61 electrotek  May 8, 2015 9:17:47pm

re: #59 austin_blue

As much as I loathe Pammie, that’s not fair. A bugfuck psychopath cherry picking quotes from another faith hater does not make her bloody-handed. It just confirms her as a faith hater.

Close to the queen in the Scottish tragedy, but not there.

I disagree, this isn’t a case of being cited one or two times like John Howard. Breivik was a staunch fanboy of Geller and had no problem citing her numerous times, along with Robert Spencer, Bat Ye’or, Melanie Phillips, Frank Gaffney, Mark Steyn, and Serge Trifkovic guy.

Plus, she expressed no sympathy for the dead, in spite of her BS she spewed on Russell Brand’s show a few years back.

The connection between her and Breivik is far closer than that between Sarah Palin and Jared Laughner, to put it that way.

62 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  May 8, 2015 9:18:32pm

Just got an email from my professor, who knows a bit about my little problem, that I passed (sort of) my final exams. I had averages in the middle 80s and passed the two nursing courses with a combined 1.7 points to spare!!!!! I was so totally worn out but I hung on with all my strength. The week before graduation is a hell of a time to give students the hardest exams ever. This crazy plan just might work.

63 electrotek  May 8, 2015 9:19:56pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Old hates go a long way unfortunately. Serb nationalists still remember the battle of Kosovo from 1389. But yeah i don’t get it either. then again I don’t get the point of using religion to divide people when religion should be about finding something that makes you happy but I have been accused of being too idealistic in the past.

I find it pretty pathetic that Armenians and Bosniaks would deny their respective genocides when their oppressors engage in genocide denial of their own. I was reading an article about Balkan Muslims straight-up denying the Armenian Genocide, including those who survived Srebrenica to my shock and horror. I was just upset to see it coming from those who suffered as much as Armenians did in 1915 to deny their suffering. I mean, WHAT THE FUCK?!:

The march was attended by Bosnians, Turks, and Azerbaijanis as well as members of the Mothers of Srebrenica Association and Zepa Mothers.

The President of the Association of Mothers of Srebrenica, Munira Subasic, told The Anadolu Agency that it was embarrassing to talk now about what happened 100 years ago knowing that Turks had also been slaughtered at the time.

She said: “Rather than talk about Armenian allegations, what happened to Muslims in Bosnia and Herzegovina should also be talked about.”

“This was something that was done against Muslims. My husband and son were killed just because they were Muslims.”

64 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 9:23:53pm

re: #63 electrotek

I find it pretty pathetic that Armenians and Bosniaks would deny their respective genocides when their oppressors engage in genocide denial of their own. I was reading an article about Balkan Muslims straight-up denying the Armenian Genocide, including those who survived Srebrenica to my shock and horror. I was just upset to see it coming from those who suffered as much as Armenians did in 1915 to deny their suffering. I mean, WHAT THE FUCK?!:

I don’t get it either. And of course the Serbians themselves were treated horribly by the Croatians and Germans during WWII. I remember hearing that some of the concentration camps that the Utasse had for the Serbs horrified even the SS. The Balkans is truly a tragic region. A beautiful place- my garndfather’s parents were from Slovenia and I am relieved that Slovenia has avoided much of the blood shed that has engulfed the region since the end of the Cold War but at the same time saddened to see it.

65 WhatEVs  May 8, 2015 9:25:17pm

re: #58 BeachDem

Realtors. Like people who sell houses? Yeah, they give a complete shit about this. Complete. Selling houses is secondary to the brave Castles and Nancy Drews. I’m completely sold in that. Makes complete sense.

66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 8, 2015 9:26:28pm

re: #58 BeachDem

I noticed that his petition is full of personal and ahistorical references, rather like an Orly Taitz brief. The situation in Ferguson after the shooting and Chuckie’s supposed investigation (from Fresno) seems hardly relevant to the case. He did raise some money with his GoFundMe account for this purpose, so I doubt the attorneys are doing it pro bono. Rather, they are willing to separate CCJ from his money.

IANAL, but their argument is worth considering. Does a person lose his rights of privacy once he’s dead? Is it in the public interest for a dead person’s juvenile records to be publicly available? I would say “No” to both those questions.

It goes without saying that if Brown had been a white guy, Chuckles would not be so hellbent on uncovering anything about his past.

67 electrotek  May 8, 2015 9:27:39pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

I don’t get it either. And of course the Serbians themselves were treated horribly by the Croatians and Germans during WWII. I remember hearing that some of the concentration camps that the Utasse had for the Serbs horrified even the SS. The Balkans is truly a tragic region. A beautiful place- my garndfather’s parents were from Slovenia and I am relieved that Slovenia has avoided much of the blood shed that has engulfed the region since the end of the Cold War but at the same time saddened to see it.

Even though I don’t harbor any ill will towards Croats in general, I was still disturbed and horrified to encounter Ustase supporters in Australia when I used to live there a few years back. Of course they were young and hot-blooded, but for fuck’s sake, they were fascist pricks and do not deserve glorification whatsoever.

And agreed about the Balkans, such a beautiful place, I just wished Tito was still around to preserve the unity of the entire region. But what’s done is done and it is important for all of them to look forward. I await the day when Sarajevo reclaim its crown as Europe’s Jerusalem once more.

68 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 8, 2015 9:27:52pm

re: #65 WhatEVs

Realtors. Like people who sell houses? Yeah, they give a complete shit about this. Complete. Selling houses is secondary to the brave Castles and Nancy Drews. I’m completely sold in that. Makes complete sense.

Read again. Relators, not Realtors.

69 WhatEVs  May 8, 2015 9:28:41pm

re: #68 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Read again. Relators, not Realtors.

What is a relator?

70 BeachDem  May 8, 2015 9:28:46pm

re: #65 WhatEVs

Realtors. Like people who sell houses? Yeah, they give a complete shit about this. Complete. Selling houses is secondary to the brave Castles and Nancy Drews. I’m completely sold in that. Makes complete sense.

Relators—as in the person who relates (not familiar with the term, but maybe it’s what AWARD-WINNING JOURNALISTS call themselves in lawsuits.)

71 jaunte  May 8, 2015 9:31:17pm
72 WhatEVs  May 8, 2015 9:32:40pm
Relator
The individual in whose name a legal action is brought by a state; the individual who relates the facts on which an action is based.
The relator is the individual upon whose complaint certain writs are issued. The relator is the party of interest in a proceeding, who is allowed to institute such proceeding in the name of the people, or in the name of the attorney general when such official has the sole right to sue. For example, if A was the relator and B was the defendant, the citation of the case would read, State ex rel. A v. B.

RELATOR. A rehearser or teller; one who, by leave of court, brings an information in the nature of a quo warranto.
2. At common law, strictly speaking, no such person as a relator to an information is known; he being a creature of the statute 9 Anne, c. 20.
3. In this country, even where no statute similar to that of Anne prevails, informations are allowed to be filed by private persons desirous to try their rights, in the name of the attorney general, and these are commonly called relators; though no judgment for costs can be rendered for or against them. 2 Dall. 112; 5 Mass. 231; 15 Serg. & Rawle, 127; 3 Serg. & Rawle, 52; Ang. on Corp. 470. In chancery the relator is responsible for costs. 4 Bouv. Inst. n. 4022.

West’s Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.

Hope it’s ok to post that.

73 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 9:32:55pm

re: #67 electrotek

Even though I don’t harbor any ill will towards Croats in general, I was still disturbed and horrified to encounter Ustase supporters in Australia when I used to live there a few years back. Of course they were young and hot-blooded, but for fuck’s sake, they were fascist pricks and do not deserve glorification whatsoever.

And agreed about the Balkans, such a beautiful place, I just wished Tito was still around to preserve the unity of the entire region. But what’s done is done and it is important for all of them to look forward. I await the day when Sarajevo reclaim its crown as Europe’s Jerusalem once more.

My grandfather always said the same thing. He felt that Tito held the place together. And you have every right to be disturbed by Ustase supporters. I know as an American, I’m greatly disturbed by people who glorify the CSA here. I am glad that the ethnic hatreds didn’t seem to come into the US though. One of my grandfather’s best friends was a Serbian-American. It just sucks because you see people who apparently learn nothing form history. Since the end of the Cold War, a lot of former Nazi collabarators from that time are being revived as nationalist heroes because their anti-communist beliefs are being pushed ignoring that they helped the Nazis commit genocide in many cases. I’m also of Slovak extraction so maybe you’ve heard of Josef Tiso, the leader of the Slovak Republic puppet state the Nazis established. He too has seen his reputation grow in a way that would have been unthinkable during Communist times. Not that the Communist times were good mind you but it wasn’t as simple as “Red tyranny” and “anti-communist democrats.” The far right in Eastern Europe has grown dramatically in recent years.

74 Jay C  May 8, 2015 9:33:02pm

re: #69 WhatEVs

What is a relator?

They’re kinda like Dementors: only they just talk to you about right-wing conspiracy crap incessantly until catatonia or death sets in….

75 BeachDem  May 8, 2015 9:33:46pm

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I noticed that his petition is full of personal and ahistorical references, rather like an Orly Taitz brief. The situation in Ferguson after the shooting and Chuckie’s supposed investigation (from Fresno) seems hardly relevant to the case. He did raise some money with his GoFundMe account for this purpose, so I doubt the attorneys are doing it pro bono. Rather, they are willing to separate CCJ from his money.

IANAL, but their argument is worth considering. Does a person lose his rights of privacy once he’s dead? Is it in the public interest for a dead person’s juvenile records to be publicly available? I would say “No” to both those questions.

It goes without saying that if Brown had been a white guy, Chuckles would not be so hellbent on uncovering anything about his past.

Not to be crass, but Brown was just as dead the last two times Chuckles got turned down flat with the same request.

He seems to be trying to make a case here that, because the Michael Brown case was a “jumping off point” for demonstrations and RIOTS (he loves to say the word riots), and because Brown’s family is suing for wrongful death, that somehow that changes everything and that if only everyone knew that Brown wasn’t a saint, everything that has happened since is invalid (or something like that.)

Don’t see how any of that bullshit reasoning gives him any different standing than he had the other times he filed.

76 WhatEVs  May 8, 2015 9:35:32pm

re: #75 BeachDem

I was thinking the same thing. What standing does a guy from CA have?

77 jaunte  May 8, 2015 9:35:45pm

Our next Gohmert:

78 BeachDem  May 8, 2015 9:35:51pm

re: #72 WhatEVs

Thanks. Figured it was something like that (because I assumed the lawyers wrote the majority of the filing.)

79 Ian G.  May 8, 2015 9:36:51pm

re: #50 jaunte

Jade Helm left-right nutjob convergence:

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Has Greenwald weighed in yet? He’s usually right in the middle of left-right lunatic convergence.

80 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 9:36:56pm

re: #77 jaunte

Our next Gohmert:

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Maybe these people should work on improving the education in Texas instead of wanting to be able to have their penis substitutes with them on at all times.

81 jaunte  May 8, 2015 9:40:31pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Maybe these people should work on improving the education in Texas instead of wanting to be able to have their penis substitutes with them on at all times.

…But where’s the grift in that?

82 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 9:41:12pm

re: #61 electrotek

I disagree, this isn’t a case of being cited one or two times like John Howard. Breivik was a staunch fanboy of Geller and had no problem citing her numerous times, along with Robert Spencer, Bat Ye’or, Melanie Phillips, Frank Gaffney, Mark Steyn, and Serge Trifkovic guy.

Plus, she expressed no sympathy for the dead, in spite of her BS she spewed on Russell Brand’s show a few years back.

The connection between her and Breivik is far closer than that between Sarah Palin and Jared Laughner, to put it that way.

And I will reiterate that I think Geller is a spirochete with big tits on the Internet, a large colony of E-coli in the alimentary canal of public discourse, and a poor excuse for a human being in general.

But was she as bloody-handed, and responsible as Lady Macbeth, for Breivik’s outrageous actions? No. I wish I could agree with you, but no.

She was just one of dozens of idiots he used to justify his heinous slaughter. His manifesto was just a totally whacked fever dream of hate.

He was going to do what he did even if Geller had never been born. In this specific instance, she had no blood on her hands.

Garland, on the other hand, she has to OWN. That is absolutely her own work. She’s such an insignificant putz.

83 Ian G.  May 8, 2015 9:41:13pm

re: #63 electrotek

I find it pretty pathetic that Armenians and Bosniaks would deny their respective genocides when their oppressors engage in genocide denial of their own. I was reading an article about Balkan Muslims straight-up denying the Armenian Genocide, including those who survived Srebrenica to my shock and horror. I was just upset to see it coming from those who suffered as much as Armenians did in 1915 to deny their suffering. I mean, WHAT THE FUCK?!:

Well, look at the subject of our post. A Jewish woman who speaks about Muslims in the same fashion as the Tsar’s propagandists did about Jews 100+ years ago. I guess her grandparents never conveyed the horrors of the pogroms to Pammy quite enough.

People have ways of compartmentalizing their beliefs, unfortunately.

84 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 9:41:43pm

re: #81 jaunte

…But where’s the grift in that?

True. Gotta tell the suckers that their second amendment rights are under attack again so they can go from having 23 guns to 29.

85 BeachDem  May 8, 2015 9:43:29pm

re: #76 WhatEVs

I was thinking the same thing. What standing does a guy from CA have?

I think he’s trying to claim he’s a journalist and it’s a “public has a right to know” issue. However, it’s the same bullshit claim he made when they turned him down before. His new argument seems to be that all these horrible things have happened all over the country occurred because Brown was held up as a good guy, and that if he can show Brown wasn’t a good guy, the movement against police brutality is invalid. It’s so ridiculous, I can hardly type it.

There’s one long section where it goes on about how exposing the juvie record can’t harm Brown’s future (i.e. school, employment, etc.) and I say again, Brown was dead when he first filed his suit and they turned him down flat (and I believe said no such records existed—not 100% positive about that part), so I don’t know what’s changed.

86 HappyWarrior  May 8, 2015 9:43:55pm

re: #83 Ian G.

Well, look at the subject of our post. A Jewish woman who speaks about Muslims in the same fashion as the Tsar’s propagandists did about Jews 100+ years ago. I guess her grandparents never conveyed the horrors of the pogroms to Pammy quite enough.

People have ways of compartmentalizing their beliefs, unfortunately.

Pam honestly inspired me in a way to wrote my term paper I wrote as an undergrad about the pogroms. The language and rhetoric she uses about Muslims is yes so much like was used about the Jews in that part of Russian history. I’m really proud of that work by the way. A lot of people don’t know how much the pogroms influenced the Nazis directly and indirectly. in fact one of the czars former propagandists was in Nazi Germany until the end. I forget his name. Way too tired to look at my old paper and find the name. If Sergei were here, he’d probably remember it since he’s very knowledgeable on the subject.

87 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 8, 2015 9:44:12pm

re: #75 BeachDem

Not to be crass, but Brown was just as dead the last two times Chuckles got turned down flat with the same request.

He seems to be trying to make a case here that, because the Michael Brown case was a “jumping off point” for demonstrations and RIOTS (he loves to say the word riots), and because Brown’s family is suing for wrongful death, that somehow that changes everything and that if only everyone knew that Brown wasn’t a saint, everything that has happened since is invalid (or something like that.)

Don’t see how any of that bullshit reasoning gives him any different standing than he had the other times he filed.

In my mind, even if Brown were still alive, there would be no compelling reason to release his juvie records. They were irrelevant to the case at hand, as Wilson would not have known their details at the time of the confrontation. The only reason UpChuck wants them released is so he can bang on his racist drum and say Brown was some kind of hardened criminal who deserved the Judge Dredd treatment.

88 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 9:47:12pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

True. Gotta tell the suckers that their second amendment rights are under attack again so they can go from having 23 guns to 29.

Well, I’m here in Austin, and I’ve only got two, a rifle and a shotgun. Do I need to go to McBride’s and stock up? Damn, this issue is making me feel oogy…

89 jaunte  May 8, 2015 9:49:23pm
90 RealityBasedSteve  May 8, 2015 9:51:20pm

re: #88 austin_blue

Well, I’m here in Austin, and I’ve only got two, a rifle and a shotgun. Do I need to go to McBride’s and stock up? Damn, this issue is making me feel oogy…

You need at least 3-4 for your bug-out bag. And don’t forget your EMP Box (whatever in the hell they think that is going to do for them). And Colloid Silver. And Heirloom Seeds.

RBS

91 jaunte  May 8, 2015 9:52:48pm

“…Abbott on Monday defended using his office to address Internet-fueled suspicions that an upcoming Army war simulation is really a hostile military takeover. It was the first time the Republican has talked about his order that became a target of bipartisan ridicule last week.”
chron.com

May the ridicule continue!

92 BeachDem  May 8, 2015 9:52:56pm

re: #87 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

In my mind, even if Brown were still alive, there would be no compelling reason to release his juvie records. They were irrelevant to the case at hand, as Wilson would not have known their details at the time of the confrontation. The only reason UpChuck wants them released is so he can bang on his racist drum and say Brown was some kind of hardened criminal who deserved the Judge Dredd treatment.

That, and it sounds like he thinks it will invalidate the entire movement trying to stop police brutality. I think it comes down to upchuck hates Shaun King and Wesley Lowrey—not sure if he’s dissed Deray McKesson yet. He hates that they’re respected writers/activists and he’s a Twitter joke. He really hates the whole #blacklivesmatter movement, because he is a racist piece of shit. Somehow, in his warped mind, he thinks he can put a stop to it all if he can prove Michael Brown wasn’t a saint. At least, that’s the way I read it.

It makes no sense to sane people, but we’re talking about upchuck here.

93 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 9:54:57pm

re: #89 jaunte

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That’s funny!

Except for the Blue UN helmets, the Black Helicopters which silently hover over your house, proving their existence, and the subsurface FEMA camps connected to the WalMarts by sekrit tunnels…

Oh, dear, I think I just shit my pants in terror.

94 goddamnedfrank  May 8, 2015 9:55:27pm

re: #21 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

UpChuck has filed an appeal to the Missouri Supreme Court to have Michael Brown’s juvie records released.

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So that’s an admission the he was lying two months ago when he said he’d already done this.

The MO CaseNet docket entry says he didn’t file his appeal with the State Supreme Court until May 6th.

95 WhatEVs  May 8, 2015 9:55:49pm

re: #85 BeachDem

That’s what he doesn’t get. It’s not whether Brown was a good kid or not. It’s that cops are not judge, jury and executioner. They don’t hand down judgement at all. They make arrests. Trials determine culpability and judges pass sentence.

It’s that human understanding that he’s incapable of. That goes for most conservatives. They are sociopathic and lack the gene for empathy and social norms.

He’s a cockroach.

96 jaunte  May 8, 2015 9:56:25pm

re: #93 austin_blue

I don’t know how he could have written “No Gestapo in Bastropo” with a straight face.

97 BeachDem  May 8, 2015 9:57:03pm

re: #91 jaunte

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May the ridicule continue!

Looks like a lovely group.

Wonder how all those fine upstanding folks would feel if the military just decided to say, “Fuck it” and closed all the bases in Texas?

98 RealityBasedSteve  May 8, 2015 9:57:12pm

re: #93 austin_blue

That’s funny!

Except for the Blue UN helmets, the Black Helicopters which silently hover over your house, proving their existence, and the subsurface FEMA camps connected to the WalMarts by sekrit tunnels…

Oh, dear, I think I just shit may pants in terror.

Actually saw somebody on some RWNJ site put forward the theory that since Jade was blue and Helm is helmet, that it was actually a cover for the UN Forces to come in and seize Texas as part of Agenda 21. After that it got really weird.

RBS

99 jaunte  May 8, 2015 9:58:25pm

re: #98 RealityBasedSteve

UN forces are massing on a golf course nearby.

100 Kragar  May 8, 2015 10:00:27pm

re: #91 jaunte

Since Texas has a problem with the military, I’m guessing they don’t want all those bases and DoD contractors scaring the locals. Better move them to friendlier climes.

101 RealityBasedSteve  May 8, 2015 10:01:12pm

re: #99 jaunte

UN forces are massing on a golf course nearby.

Do you think they will let a twosome play through?

RBS

102 BeachDem  May 8, 2015 10:01:18pm

re: #95 WhatEVs

It’s that human understanding that he’s incapable of. That goes for most conservatives. They are sociopathic and lack the gene for empathy and social norms.

He’s a cockroach.

Bears repeating. And bolding.

103 jaunte  May 8, 2015 10:01:20pm

re: #100 Kragar

Greg Abbott is a weenie too afraid to call out these nuts as the nuts they are.

104 jaunte  May 8, 2015 10:01:49pm

These nuts being his voting base.

105 teleskiguy  May 8, 2015 10:02:16pm

Clickbait-y headline notwithstanding, I found this to be pretty spot-on analysis of policing in the United States.

Cracked - 5 Reasons Police Have Probably Started The Next Civil War

Funny and sad that I find the most reasoned analysis of big human problems at humor sites.

106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 8, 2015 10:02:26pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

So that’s an admission the he was lying two months ago when he said he’d already done this.

The MO CaseNet docket entry says he didn’t file this appeal with the State Supreme Court until May 6th.

Ah, I missed that tidbit. Thanks.

re: #92 BeachDem

He’s trying to prove that black men deserve to be shot because black men deserve to be shot. If Brown were white, UpChuck would not even care.

107 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 10:03:42pm

re: #98 RealityBasedSteve

Actually saw somebody on some RWNJ site put forward the theory that since Jade was blue and Helm is helmet, that it was actually a cover for the UN Forces to come in and seize Texas as part of Agenda 21. After that it got really weird.

RBS

It can’t get weirder than the facts on the ground, here. Really. Even some of the other (slightly less insane) RWNJs are lambasting Wheels for calling out the TNG to oversee the exercise.

His response?

We are just making sure that the public is informed!

Right, you idiot, it’s all about transparency, not feeding Alex Jones’ conspiracy theories.

Oxygen thief.

108 goddamnedfrank  May 8, 2015 10:06:21pm

Note that at the time he wrote this he hadn’t even filed the appeal. It’s such a weird thing for him to lie about. He must have thought he could grift the difference in the cash he raised from his wingnut donors thinking they’d never check to see if he actually sued as far as he claimed. Maybe he got called out on lying about this by one of his supporters recently and was forced to actually spend the money.

Or maybe he’s just a pathological fabulist and felt the need to lie two months ago to puff himself up and and make it seem like he gone further than he really had with this.

109 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 10:07:00pm

re: #96 jaunte

I don’t know how he could have written “No Gestapo in Bastropo” with a straight face.

I’m assuming he’s got Draino for Braino.

110 jaunte  May 8, 2015 10:09:45pm

The U. S. Army has been sneaking up on Texas for a long time:

“…A line of seven army posts were established in 1848-49 after the Mexican War to protect the settlers of West Texas and included Fort Worth, Fort Graham, Fort Gates, Fort Croghan, Fort Martin Scott, Fort Lincoln and Fort Duncan.”
en.wikipedia.org

111 RealityBasedSteve  May 8, 2015 10:10:23pm

Well gang, I’m off to bed. Catch you all later on. Stay safe, warm and remember, if it’s brightly colored and slow moving, it’s probably poisonous.

112 teleskiguy  May 8, 2015 10:13:22pm

There are some very funny jokes in there!

113 jaunte  May 8, 2015 10:13:32pm
114 BeachDem  May 8, 2015 10:14:55pm

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He’s trying to prove that black men deserve to be shot because black men deserve to be shot. If Brown were white, UpChuck would not even care.

I agree, but then there’s all the crap about when a whole region erupts in riots leveling a city as a result, and when the President of the United States, US Attorney General, national leaders, and indeed the entire nation, have demanded answers. Indeed, it’s hard to imagine any more legitimate interest than Relators’ Public Interest.

The only “answers” the juvie records would provide would be exactly what you said-that in upchuck’s mind black men deserve to be shot because black men deserve to be shot.

WhatEVs said it best—he’s a cockroach.

115 BeachDem  May 8, 2015 10:20:34pm

re: #108 goddamnedfrank

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Note that at the time he wrote this he hadn’t even filed the appeal. It’s such a weird thing for him to lie about. He must have thought he could grift the difference in the cash he raised from his wingnut donors thinking they’d never check to see if he actually sued as far as he claimed. Maybe he got called out on lying about this by one of his supporters recently and was forced to actually spend the money.

Or maybe he’s just a pathological fabulist and felt the need to lie two months ago to puff himself up and and make it seem like he gone further than he really had with this.

I could be remembering wrong, but I thought he had filed one appeal at that point. I thought he filed his original bullshit request, got a letter from a Judge(?) or somebody—it was a woman—he posted it. Then he either wrote another response or had the lawyers do it and they turned him down flat again. At least that’s the way I remember it.

I don’t think either of those were to the MO Supreme Court—but he’s been yapping about that for months.

116 BeachDem  May 8, 2015 10:22:43pm

re: #113 jaunte

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And of course, he cites a Breitbart story.

117 goddamnedfrank  May 8, 2015 10:28:11pm

re: #115 BeachDem

I could be remembering wrong, but I thought he had filed one appeal at that point.

He has repeatedly lied about having previously filed all the way up to the MO Supreme Court.

There’s no way to interpret that as anything other than a blatant lie, at the time he wrote this he hadn’t even filed his appeal with the State Supreme Court.

118 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 8, 2015 10:33:22pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

He has repeatedly lied about having previously filed all the way up to the MO Supreme Court.

There’s no way to interpret that as anything other than a blatant lie, at the time he wrote this he hadn’t even filed his appeal with the State Supreme Court.

The court will probably not hear the case until after May 18, if they even bother to docket it.

119 BeachDem  May 8, 2015 10:34:15pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

He has repeatedly lied about having previously filed all the way up to the MO Supreme Court.

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There’s no way to interpret that as anything other than a blatant lie, at the time he wrote this he hadn’t even filed his appeal with the State Supreme Court.

You’re right. Didn’t know he was talking about the Supreme Court before. He is, as always, full of shit. Let’s just hope they smack this one down as quickly as his other whiny filings.

120 sagehen  May 8, 2015 10:35:24pm

re: #98 RealityBasedSteve

Actually saw somebody on some RWNJ site put forward the theory that since Jade was blue and Helm is helmet, that it was actually a cover for the UN Forces to come in and seize Texas as part of Agenda 21. After that it got really weird.

RBS

um… jade is green.

121 Jenner7  May 8, 2015 10:38:53pm

I stopped at “group of people that could have weapons”. Who are they trying to kid?

122 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 8, 2015 10:40:46pm

I’m testing UpChuck multiple language proficiency.

WW91IGFyZSBhbiBpZGlvdC4=

The first two characters are “ni ge”. By themselves, the phrase is a common speech “filler” — a lot like “y’know” in English.

123 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 10:43:14pm

re: #120 sagehen

um… jade is green.

Blue, green, just shut up! You’re interfering with the narrative.

We’re trying to make a completely nonsensical point here, you buzzkill Liberal!

124 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 10:45:26pm

re: #122 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m testing UpChuck multiple language proficiency.

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“Nigga, please.”

What the hell is the context for that?

125 teleskiguy  May 8, 2015 10:48:37pm

re: #122 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Google translate for your tweet:

Nice work wheatdogg!

126 goddamnedfrank  May 8, 2015 10:49:08pm

re: #124 austin_blue

What the hell is the context for that?

Chuck is a huge racist, that’s the context.

127 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 8, 2015 10:51:53pm

re: #125 teleskiguy

Google translate for your tweet:

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Nice work wheatdogg!

Mistranslation by Google. That’s the literal meaning, not the idiomatic meaning.

128 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 8, 2015 10:53:17pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

Chuck is a huge racist, that’s the context.

Some restaurant somewhere was having a “Whites Day” promotion and caught a lot of shit for it. So, he’s riffing on “white appreciation day” in his usual tonedeaf way.

129 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 10:53:26pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

Chuck is a huge racist, that’s the context.

Well, duh, but that couldn’t have come out of left field. Sorry, I won’t click on his name to view his tweets.

Not enough soap in the house.

130 goddamnedfrank  May 8, 2015 10:58:48pm

re: #125 teleskiguy

Two hundred and fifty.

It means “you’re an idiot.”

131 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 11:01:31pm

re: #128 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Some restaurant somewhere was having a “Whites Day” promotion and caught a lot of shit for it. So, he’s riffing on “white appreciation day” in his usual tonedeaf way.

Sushi rice, cauliflower, garlic, skinned potatoes, gnochii, yogurt, milk, and un-aged cheese.

Okay. Got it.

But kind of boring.

What was the conflict?

132 BeachDem  May 8, 2015 11:11:29pm

re: #129 austin_blue

Well, duh, but that couldn’t have come out of left field. Sorry, I won’t click on his name to view his tweets.

Not enough soap in the house.

rawstory.com

133 teleskiguy  May 8, 2015 11:25:25pm

Ugh.

134 austin_blue  May 8, 2015 11:26:31pm

re: #132 BeachDem

rawstory.com

Oh, maroons. Hispanic maroons, at that.

They should know better, eh?

I’m for the rack. It’s relegation time in the EPL. Lots of drama tomorrow.

Sweet scaly dreams, my friends.

135 Pawn of the Oppressor  May 8, 2015 11:37:54pm

re: #58 BeachDem

It’s not even a good legal document. Summary:

“Unseal the records because NGGER! NGGER NGGER NGGER!!! Also here are some random quotes from local case law. Conclusion: Fuckin’ black people!”

136 Jenner7  May 8, 2015 11:47:11pm

Just started Mad Men. Finished Season One and whoa! Peggy?? Really? Honestly didn’t see that one coming, thought she just gained weight.

It’s hard to imagine these characters lived very long with all the cigs and booze. lol

Night..

137 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 12:37:23am

re: #130 goddamnedfrank

Two hundred and fifty.

It means “you’re an idiot.”

Ssssh! You’ll give away the answer. Hence, the private comment above.

138 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 12:38:27am

re: #135 Pawn of the Oppressor

It’s not even a good legal document. Summary:

“Unseal the records because NGGER! NGGER NGGER NGGER!!! Also here are some random quotes from local case law. Conclusion: Fuckin’ black people!”

Like I said, it reminds me of an Orly Taitz complaint, but more grammatically correct.

139 Ace-o-aces  May 9, 2015 1:21:10am

re: #58 BeachDem

2. Can’t believe these lawyers would still be doing any of this pro bono—if they are, they’re bigger fools than upchuck.

I looked up his lawyer. He’s a personal injury and workers comp attorney. Now, while I’m sure he’s the man to got to for a slip and fall at the local grocery, I think an appeal to the Missouri Supreme court might be a bit out of his league.

140 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 2:12:49am

re: #139 Ace-o-aces

I looked up his lawyer. He’s a personal injury and workers comp attorney. Now, while I’m sure he’s the man to got to for a slip and fall at the local grocery, I think an appeal to the Missouri Supreme court might be a bit out of his league.

I was wondering about that. I’ve read quite a few legal pleadings in my non-lawyerly life, and this one did not read like something you’d bring to any supreme court. I’d have dispensed with the aggrandizement of the relator and the pointless references to “riots,” etc., in Ferguson, as they have no connection to the legal point being argued.

141 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 3:38:34am

The Tweet-Sourced UpChuck Dossier has been updated, now with more photos!
wheatdogg.com

142 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 3:51:59am

I kind of doubt any lawyer worth a damn would take on a claim Upchuck has that reads like that one.

That $1K he raised wouldn’t even begin to be a decent retainer for an atty who realized s/he would probably have to wade through an appeals process. It wouldn’t even cover expenses, much less billable time.

And just because the “State of Missouri, ex rel” is shown, usually means that a govt has filed a case for a private individual, not Upchuck and his lawyer friends who cooked this POS up. The State is the entity denying production of Brown’s juvenile records. I can’t imagine they would be a party to this, so it appears Upchuck and his lawyers are simply relying on “information and belief” that there exists such a record since the original request for such doxuments totally failed.

Scribd Document

All the documents showing how Upchuck was turned down by authorities is also at the same link. Go to the bottom and click on exhibits.

143 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 4:05:39am

re: #142 Justanotherhuman

The $1K is for his Hillary fishing expedition. His other GoFundMe beg-a-thon for the Michael Brown case netted somewhere around $10K, IIRC. Still, after the appeal got shot down, I can’t imagine he has much more of that dough left.

The ex rel part confused me, because the way the petition reads, it sounds like the state of Missouri is appealing Judge Siwak’s denial, which would make no sense in this case. Are they trying to cover for the fact that Johnson has no standing in this matter?

I missed seeing the exhibits. I’ll go back and check ‘em out.

144 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 4:07:56am

re: #142 Justanotherhuman

Upchuck’s appeal to the MO court of appeas is also included in those docs and the “Writ of Prohibition and/or Mandamus” was denied on Dec 18, 2014.

He’s gonna be denied again.

145 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 4:22:11am

Does Upchuck’s good friend “David Nowakowski” even know what “of counsel” even means?

And by the way, judges don’t write motions, lawyers do, and circuit court judges generally don’t have temporary “clerks” running around like this idiot. They don’t need interns.

This guy is a complete fraud.

linkedin.com

146 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 4:25:58am

Also, look down at page 6 of this link (at the bottom where the signature should be) where “no such file exists” with a scrawled signature and 8/25/14. Scribd Document

147 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 4:31:58am

I could not find a “David Nowakowski” who is a member of the MO bar, even with the #66481 and his name (page 13 of the above link.

mobar.org

148 Nyet  May 9, 2015 4:41:13am

re: #134 austin_blue

Oh, maroons. Hispanic maroons, at that.

They should know better, eh?
.

Umm.
Maroon
a. A fugitive black slave in the West Indies in the 1600s and 1700s.

b. A descendant of such a slave.

149 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 4:48:11am

re: #147 Justanotherhuman

I could not find a “David Nowakowski” who is a member of the MO bar, even with the #66481 and his name (page 13 of the above link.

mobar.org

150 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 4:52:31am

re: #149 Justanotherhuman

I guess that info doesn’t come up without entering it yourself, #66481 (bar #) and David Nowakowski, and don’t enter St. Louis, it won’t come up (leaving that blank made it come up).

151 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 4:57:23am

re: #146 Justanotherhuman

Also, look down at page 6 of this link (at the bottom where the signature should be) where “no such file exists” with a scrawled signature and 8/25/14. [Embedded content]

Because scribd.com is blocked in China, I have to use my VPN, and I’m downloading the exhibits, all 347 pages. Jeez. You’d think they were arguing a major case of Constitutional law.

152 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 5:11:37am

re: #151 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Because scribd.com is blocked in China, I have to use my VPN, and I’m downloading the exhibits, all 347 pages. Jeez. You’d think they were arguing a major case of Constitutional law.

Exactly. And it appears Nowakowski, who signed some of those pleadings, is actually a lawyer (probably some lowly associate the “cases” was thrown to). And I didn’t read his duties for the judge clearly enough—it was orders he claims he wrote for the judge on the motions of attys, but in those kind of little cases, the judge’s regular court clerk could do it since they’re pretty short and canned and based on the winning side’s pleading. (See page 22 of the linked pleadings.) One sentence.

153 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 5:18:39am

re: #151 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Because scribd.com is blocked in China, I have to use my VPN, and I’m downloading the exhibits, all 347 pages. Jeez. You’d think they were arguing a major case of Constitutional law.

Yeah, I can imagine he’s running up a lot of billable hours. Where’s the money coming from?

BTW, the majority of that link is the DoJ report and the complaint filed by Benjamin Crump for Michael Brown’s family in the civil case.

154 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 5:28:51am

Also, using a “writ of mandamus” in Upchuck’s particuarly vile, voyeuristic manner is laughable and any judge who is worth a damn will throw it right out of court, as the MO appeals court and the circuit court did, and so will the MO Supreme Court, because it is not in the interest of the public to know.

Remember, “no file found”? Michael Brown obviously had no juvenile record which his parents have stated.

155 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 5:37:27am

I hope BeachDem is going to be OK; I’m inland, probably 200+ miles from where this storm will pass in SC, way over that from the NC Outerbanks. Supposed to be mostly sunny today with some clouds here.

Tropical storm Ana is moving slowly north-northwestward toward the Carolinas - @NHC_Atlantic
read more on noaa.gov

3h
Ana becomes surprise tropical storm near Carolinas, weeks ahead of Atlantic hurricane season - @AP
end of alert

156 Hector1980  May 9, 2015 5:39:08am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I went there and compared Nolte to Hitler, just for kicks.

157 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 5:41:24am

re: #151 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Because scribd.com is blocked in China, I have to use my VPN, and I’m downloading the exhibits, all 347 pages. Jeez. You’d think they were arguing a major case of Constitutional law.

Oh wait. Where you posted above, at #21, go to “Show Me More” and it clicks in on the exhibits. Is that prohibited, also since it’s already linked?

158 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 5:53:09am

re: #157 Justanotherhuman

Oh wait. Where you posted above, at #21, go to “Show Me More” and it clicks in on the exhibits. Is that prohibited, also since it’s already linked?

It works. ;-)

159 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 6:10:08am

re: #157 Justanotherhuman

Oh wait. Where you posted above, at #21, go to “Show Me More” and it clicks in on the exhibits. Is that prohibited, also since it’s already linked?

And now I see the scrawled note you refer to. If there were no juvie records, then the appeals have been a total waste of time and money. More than likely, the supreme court will refuse to hear the case.

160 PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2015 6:14:36am

re: #155 Justanotherhuman

Beach Dem will be okay. The fact that she is taking this sub tropical storm seriously is good. This is the only information I could get from my local NWS site. nhc.noaa.gov

161 darthstar  May 9, 2015 6:17:44am

Jesus could walk on fucking water. If I could do that, I’d troll the crap out of people. I’d jog by people who swim the English Channel.

162 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 6:20:09am

re: #160 PhillyPretzel

She, in fact, BeachDem. : )

163 PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2015 6:23:35am

re: #162 Justanotherhuman

Sorry about that. I will go back and correct. :)
And thanks to Charles for the pencil.

164 PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2015 6:41:52am

Aw darn another entry for Philly Pretzel’s thread killers. :(

165 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 6:46:58am

re: #157 Justanotherhuman

I read through the previous petitions and appeals, not carefully yet, but it seems their arguments in the appeal to the supreme court are not substantially different from the ones made to the circuit and appellate courts. Lawhawk can probably provide a more expert opinion, but I would think an appeal to the supreme court would need to argue why the appellate ruling was inappropriate, in addition to the arguments for release of the records.

Meanwhile, the state officials have been reminding Johnson and his lawyers throughout that judicial records do not fall under the state’s Sunshine Laws, which only hold for executive and legislative records and proceedings.

It’s a waste of time and money. I hope those people who donated to his GoFundMe campaign have a big case of buyer’s remorse when this is all over.

166 Mike Lamb  May 9, 2015 7:04:34am

re: #145 Justanotherhuman

Does Upchuck’s good friend “David Nowakowski” even know what “of counsel” even means?

And by the way, judges don’t write motions, lawyers do, and circuit court judges generally don’t have temporary “clerks” running around like this idiot. They don’t need interns.

This guy is a complete fraud.

linkedin.com

Much like Chuck, his buddy can’t write. What he’s saying is not that he writes motions but that he wrote orders in response to motions. But it’s very confusing its phrasing.

167 A Cranky One  May 9, 2015 7:05:30am

Heh.

Latest Gofundme donation to Charles:

$15
CCJs Hot Asian Wife
2 mins ago
Also from hot Asian in-laws

168 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 7:06:41am

re: #158 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Notice that Jonathan Burns notifies Nowakowski on Dec 3, 2014 about this POS case going to the MO SC; get the underling to work on it, do the research and grunt work, the same as the appeals case. No skin off Burns’ back if they’re getting paid. No law firm is going to waste their own time and expense on something like this without being paid, and paid well.

Appeal was dismissed on Dec 18, 2014; it appears that a lot of those “exhibits” attached to the SC petition have absolutely no relation to the case, either, including the NYT article, the DoJ report and the Brown family civil case. What a pile of crap. And since there is no date on the petition, I have no idea when it was filed, since it’s not a filed copy. But no doubt the court will not be pleased with a petition containing an inch of so-called “exhibits” that don’t mean shit relevant to the instant case.

Making a mountain out of a mole hill. Figures.

169 Mike Lamb  May 9, 2015 7:09:00am

The fact that anyone would believe that someone could be implicating in murdering a person as a juvenile and not still be in jail as an 18 year old is mind boggling.

170 wrenchwench  May 9, 2015 7:17:25am

[…]

The Commission “had no problems with the way the ranch has been run for 17 years,” he said. “They are opposed to the Mexican wolf recovery program as currently constituted.”

Phillips spoke at Thursday’s commission meeting - the first time the Turner team has had to request a permit of the seven-member commission. Previously, the ranch’s permit had been renewed by the Game and Fish department director.

[…]

171 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 7:18:25am

re: #168 Justanotherhuman

It’s the sign of an attorney who is desperately trying to find an argument. Throw everything at the court and hope for a miracle.

The fact that the appellate division ruled against Johnson on the same day as the state’s reply is pretty telling. It means the court was already disposed to toss the case out, but waited for a formal response from the state attorney general’s office before issuing its ruling. The argument that Johnson has no relevant interest in the matter is what will doom his appeal to the SC.

172 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 7:20:04am

re: #166 Mike Lamb

Much like Chuck, his buddy can’t write. What he’s saying is not that he writes motions but that he wrote orders in response to motions. But it’s very confusing its phrasing.

Yeah, I corrected that above. This thing probably won’t even get past one of the SC judges’ law clerks.

The entire petition reeks of amateurism; Nowakowski should stick to the minor PI cases he’s probably assigned. Even if Burns signed the petition, I doubt he gave it more than a cursory glance, because like I said, no skin off his back if he’s getting paid for all those billable hours and expenses.

173 wrenchwench  May 9, 2015 7:22:07am
174 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 7:26:40am

Doctors Without Borders says it welcomes news that Liberia is Ebola-free; warns outbreak is not over in neighboring Guinea and Sierra Leone - statement
end of alert

175 PhillyPretzel  May 9, 2015 7:27:02am

re: #173 wrenchwench

Cat seems to be thinking, “I heard what you said about me. And I will remember it.”

176 The War TARDIS  May 9, 2015 7:30:53am

So I made an oops this morning. I read the summary and schedule for the thing today, and saw 9:00 am as the start.

Actually, from 9 to 12 is registration.

Which means I get to sit around and deal with my greatest enemy: Chronic boredom.

177 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 7:37:04am

Well, Kragar’s chart gives me the superhero name “Red Professor, Demon of the States”. I guess I’ll take it.

178 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 7:43:50am

What an idiot. Misspells “Kips Bay”. I saw “Reds” at that theater over 30 yrs ago; lived just a couple of blocks from it. What was an apt residence is now a cheap hotel usually patronized by European visitors.

tripadvisor.com

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson * 40m 40 minutes ago
I got the black movie theatre experience at Kipps Bay watching Age of Ultron.

179 A Cranky One  May 9, 2015 7:44:26am

re: #177 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, Kragar’s chart gives me the superhero name “Red Professor, Demon of the States”. I guess I’ll take it.

Tidal Wizard, the Dreaded of Law says behave yourselves or I’ll go all tsunami on your ass.

180 Great White Snark  May 9, 2015 7:52:31am

Been reading further on the NSA & rule 215. Darn shame they cowed away from the constitutional question, but my favorite parts are these-My bold

“That telephone metadata do not directly reveal the content of telephone calls,” it reads, “does not vitiate the privacy concerns arising out of the government’s bulk collection of such data.”

“The government effectively argues that there is only one enormous ‘anti‐terrorism’ investigation, and that any records that might ever be of use in developing any aspect of that investigation are relevant to the overall counterterrorism effort,” the ruling reads. “The records demanded are not those of suspects under investigation, or of people or businesses that have contact with such subjects, or of people or businesses that have contact with others who are in contact with the subjects - they extend to every record that exists, and indeed to records that do not yet exist, as they impose a continuing obligation on the recipient of the subpoena to provide such records on an ongoing basis as they are created.”

Way past time to end the 215 program outright, return to the principle of probable cause, and finally much belatedly sunset the Patriot act forever. I always felt this was a completely unnecessary power grab, and rulings in support of the program are no less in error than the Japanese detention rulings. Just look at who supports the programs now, the likes of John MCCain and the GOP. Well well.

181 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 7:53:54am
182 Eventual Carrion  May 9, 2015 8:01:11am

re: #96 jaunte

I don’t know how he could have written “No Gestapo in Bastropo” with a straight face.

Support the troops gestapo!

183 calochortus  May 9, 2015 8:04:26am

re: #166 Mike Lamb

Much like Chuck, his buddy can’t write. What he’s saying is not that he writes motions but that he wrote orders in response to motions. But it’s very confusing its phrasing.

This seems to be the guy at the bottom of the totem pole at his firm. His previous experience was a few months clerking here and there, and the best thing he can say about himself and his firm is that it’s great to work in the same building as a decent law firm which does not employ him. Sometimes he rides with real lawyers in the elevator or some wisdom percolates through the walls.

184 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 8:05:21am

Why? On bad terms?

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson * 17m 17 minutes ago
Today will be the first day I have seen my mother in nearly three years.
-
Revealing (she’s a mother, isn’t she?).

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson * 19m 19 minutes ago
I adore my immigrant Buddhist mother-in-law with all my heart. There should be a #MothersDay for mother-in-laws.

185 calochortus  May 9, 2015 8:06:14am

re: #184 Justanotherhuman

Sad.

186 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 8:07:10am

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like ALEC lost another member, too.

187 Belafon  May 9, 2015 8:09:28am

re: #184 Justanotherhuman

I adore my immigrant Buddhist mother-in-law with all my heart. There should be a #MothersDay for mother-in-laws.

I believe we call it “Mother’s Day.”

188 Belafon  May 9, 2015 8:12:13am

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just read through the article. His newest bill idea sounds awesome: “WRDW reports that Brush was on his way to see Governor Nathan Deal regarding another motorcycle bill to allow bikers to treat red lights as a stop sign if the bike wasn’t big enough to trigger sensors embedded in pavement.” Because nothing says safety like allowing people to drive through red lights.

189 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 8:12:19am

Is he basing this BS on The Bell Curve? It flies in the face of most educational research about the value of reading to your kids from a young age.

Charles C. Johnson ‏@ChuckCJohnson 5m5 minutes ago

Even if it were true that reading to your children affects educational outcome I still would do it to piss off SJWs.

190 ObserverArt  May 9, 2015 8:14:25am

Morning all!

I thought I’d start my day doing a Photoshop based on one of yesterday’s threads. Louie Gohmert…fun with maps!

Gohmert Map Reading for the Right Wing Nut Jobs on Tea.

Click for larger image to see map detail, etc.

191 Great White Snark  May 9, 2015 8:15:12am

re: #188 Belafon

So bring a toothbrush and sleeping bag with you to the intersection in case the sensors don’t work? Get off the bike and push the walk button?

192 Charles Johnson  May 9, 2015 8:20:26am

LOL!

193 Charles Johnson  May 9, 2015 8:22:19am

“Intellectual Heavyweight Pamela Geller.” Those are four words you won’t see together very often.

194 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 8:22:39am

re: #189 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Obviously, Upchuck didn’t get that experience himself. He was only allowed to listen to Limpballs and it shows.

195 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 8:22:40am

re: #192 Charles Johnson

Charles, when did UpChuck first start begging for money for his Michael Brown juvie record suits?

196 Iwouldprefernotto  May 9, 2015 8:24:51am

re: #192 Charles Johnson

LOL!

[Embedded content]

Geller quote: “I’m giving an education”
I think it’s more of a case of people laughing at you, not with you.

197 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 8:26:36am

re: #195 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Charles, when did UpChuck first start begging for money for his Michael Brown juvie record suits?

August 22, 2014, maybe.

GotNews . com paying for the lawsuit out of my own pocket. If you’d like to help out, earmark your donation.

donotlink.com

198 Belafon  May 9, 2015 8:27:22am

re: #191 Great White Snark

So bring a toothbrush and sleeping bag with you to the intersection in case the sensors don’t work? Get off the bike and push the walk button?

OK, I guess I can see the point of the sensors, but I don’t see how allowing them to run through the light will help. Wouldn’t it be better to propose adjusting the sensor load? Or adopt camera sensors like we have here in Texas? I see a lot more accidents because motorcycles taking off when they should have waited, and a lot of cyclists going “but my cycle was too light.”

199 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 8:28:21am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, that confirms what I found on his blog. Twitter is being cranky and slow for me, so searching there is not working out so well right now.

200 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 8:28:42am

re: #185 calochortus

He managed to get to as many RW confabs as he could. He’s trying to milk some sympathy.

So no, I don’t think it’s sad. I’m just wondering who paid for this trip? And he’s not staying with her? None of it makes much sense unless it’s just a meet-up with her in NYC in passing.

201 ObserverArt  May 9, 2015 8:31:12am

re: #193 Charles Johnson

“Intellectual Heavyweight Pamela Geller.” Those are four words you won’t see together very often.

By comparison to DimJim she is.

/// …still not saying much.

202 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 8:31:28am

re: #200 Justanotherhuman

He managed to get to as many RW confabs as he could. He’s trying to milk some sympathy.

So no, I don’t think it’s sad. I’m just wondering who paid for this trip? And he’s not staying with her? None of it makes much sense unless it’s just a meet-up with her in NYC in passing.

If I were a donor to his GoFundMe campaigns, I’d demand an accounting of how he spent the funds. Didn’t he raise more than $10K for the Michael Brown case?

203 Great White Snark  May 9, 2015 8:32:27am

re: #198 Belafon

I would say the simple solution is just run a timer. Here in California in the event of a power outage that blacks out the signal lights, the law says treat the intersection as a four way stop. Tie goes to the vehicle on the right. Treating a bad sensor like that makes perfect sense to me. Stopping and then proceeding is not the same as running the light as in just blow through.

204 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 8:35:04am

re: #202 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I wasn’t interested in him back then, so I’m not sure.

If so, there are a lot of fools out there.

205 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 8:35:18am

re: #198 Belafon

OK, I guess I can see the point of the sensors, but I don’t see how allowing them to run through the light will help. Wouldn’t it be better to propose adjusting the sensor load? Or adopt camera sensors like we have here in Texas? I see a lot more accidents because motorcycles taking off when they should have waited, and a lot of cyclists going “but my cycle was too light.”

I used to work swing and would do a lot of my shopping late at night. There was this one intersection I went through a couple of times until I learned better where they had it set never to turn green after…midnight, maybe? I’d look around as carefully as I could to make sure it wasn’t a trap with cops lurking around, but I would eventually get out of the car and push the walk button. First time the green light came and went so quick I had to do it again. Huge pain in the ass. I think there really should be a time limit on red lights—if they don’t turn green in five minutes, you can treat them as a stop sign—motorcycle or no.

206 stpaulbear  May 9, 2015 8:36:52am

re: #188 Belafon

Just read through the article. His newest bill idea sounds awesome: “WRDW reports that Brush was on his way to see Governor Nathan Deal regarding another motorcycle bill to allow bikers to treat red lights as a stop sign if the bike wasn’t big enough to trigger sensors embedded in pavement.” Because nothing says safety like allowing people to drive through red lights.

That law exists in MN and other states.

I wanted to use that law last night, but there was too much cross traffic so I made a right turn on red instead. I sat through three cycles of a traffic light, and the car behind me wouldn’t pull up far enough to trip the detectors. I feel uncomfortable running the red (there’s usually someone who can see you), but it beats waiting for 20 minutes for a car to pull up behind you.

207 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 8:38:26am

re: #199 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

OK, that confirms what I found on his blog. Twitter is being cranky and slow for me, so searching there is not working out so well right now.

Found this tweet. The campaign no longer exists.

208 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 8:39:59am

re: #205 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I used to work swing and would do a lot of my shopping late at night. There was this one intersection I went through a couple of times until I learned better where they had it set never to turn green after…midnight, maybe? I’d look around as carefully as I could to make sure it wasn’t a trap with cops lurking around, but I would eventually get out of the car and push the walk button. First time the green light came and went so quick I had to do it again. Huge pain in the ass. I think there really should be a time limit on red lights—if they don’t turn green in five minutes, you can treat them as a stop sign—motorcycle or no.

My Chinese friends who have lived in America are amazed that Americans will wait patiently for a red light to turn green, even when there are no other cars around. In some parts of the China, red lights are considered advisory only.

209 calochortus  May 9, 2015 8:40:04am

re: #200 Justanotherhuman

He managed to get to as many RW confabs as he could. He’s trying to milk some sympathy.

So no, I don’t think it’s sad. I’m just wondering who paid for this trip? And he’s not staying with her? None of it makes much sense unless it’s just a meet-up with her in NYC in passing.

So, aside from the fact he is generally a sad excuse for a man, my “sad” was his apparent sorry relationship with his own mother and the fact he can’t unconditionally love is mother-in-law. He has to point out that she isn’t like him, but he loves her anyhow so…mumble, mumble, mumble.

210 Romantic Heretic  May 9, 2015 8:40:06am

re: #34 Varek Raith

I just bought 15 jade helms.

And you’re still sober enough to type? I’m impressed.

211 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 8:40:16am

First Upchuck says this,

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson * 39m 39 minutes ago
SJWs & jihadists have more in common than we want to admit.

then says this,

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson * 16m 16 minutes ago
Wanted: a William Kunstler style lawyer for the conservative movement.

Psssst, Upchuck! There’s no such person; they all know you’re full of shit.

212 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 8:40:50am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

Found this tweet. The campaign no longer exists.

When a GFM campaign reaches its goal, the page is taken down.

213 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 8:42:19am

The Klown Kar Kandidates alight in SC.

Live video: Citizens United’s South Carolina Freedom Summit; speakers include Scott Walker, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Bobby Jindal, Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina - @NBCNews
see original on nbcnews.com

214 BeachDem  May 9, 2015 8:42:22am

re: #155 Justanotherhuman

I hope BeachDem is going to be OK; I’m inland, probably 200+ miles from where this storm will pass in SC, way over that from the NC Outerbanks. Supposed to be mostly sunny today with some clouds here.

Tropical storm Ana is moving slowly north-northwestward toward the Carolinas - @NHC_Atlantic
read more on noaa.gov

3h
Ana becomes surprise tropical storm near Carolinas, weeks ahead of Atlantic hurricane season - @AP
end of alert

So far, so good—some rain this morning, but now sunny and calm. Hope it stays this way and we don’t lose power, as I have to edit a 240+ page report this afternoon!

215 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 8:43:27am

re: #212 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

When a GFM campaign reaches its goal, the page is taken down.

He first asked for donations via the Donate button on his blog.
I remember some people complaining that his Donate button didn’t work and/or they hated Paypal, and he tried a variety of crowdfunding schemes.
I think he just made up the “I raised $10,000” claim.

216 Romantic Heretic  May 9, 2015 8:44:08am

re: #53 austin_blue

Well, that happened previously during The War Of Yankee Aggression Against The Southern Aristocracy in 1865.

Which we didn’t lose, by the way. We merely capitulated, to be resumed at a later date, of our choosing.

It appears that that place in time now looms ominously for the Union…

Dah Dah Dah!!!

Since D_F isn’t here to do it I’ll step up to the plate.

217 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 8:45:18am

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

He first asked for donations via the Donate button on his blog.
I remember some people complaining that his Donate button didn’t work and/or they hated Paypal, and he tried a variety of crowdfunding schemes.
I think he just made up the “I raised $10,000” claim.

Someone here said he tried Bitcoin, but didn’t know how to set it up.

218 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 8:45:33am

Munchkin just climbed into the dryer, sitting there on the edge: Me: Please get out of there. He: I’m going into the future.

He just jumped out. : )

219 Belafon  May 9, 2015 8:46:03am

OK to everyone. I think all the suggestions are good. My brother rides a motorcycle, and would be one of those who would do the “My cycle’s too light to set off the sensor,” even with the cop showing him a picture of the light. Somehow, the system should, to me at least, provide a way to make the other direction red that doesn’t require the person to get off the motorcycle.

220 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 8:47:12am

re: #217 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Someone here said he tried Bitcoin, but didn’t know how to set it up.

He said he was going to try the Bitcoin thing in March, then again in April.
Don’t know if he’s figured it out yet.

221 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 8:48:09am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

He said he was going to try the Bitcoin thing in March, then again in April.
Don’t know if he’s figured it out yet.

It’s not that hard.

222 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 8:48:33am

re: #221 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And he’s not that smart.

223 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 8:48:41am

re: #221 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s not that hard.

heh…remember who we’re discussing.

:D

224 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 8:51:09am

Wut? Want to give some names?

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson * 55m 55 minutes ago
Frankly it’s kind of dickish that so many people in the media are saying my friends @atlasshrugs & @jihadwatchRS have a fatwa coming.

Of course not, no one is saying that.

225 calochortus  May 9, 2015 8:51:10am

Time to go do something constructive. Laters, all.

226 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 8:52:21am

re: #222 Justanotherhuman

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, yeah.

Y’know, he often disses boomers in his Twitter, saying we’re behind the times and millennials have got it all down. I’m a boomer. I use Bitcoin. gotnwes.com has a Bitcoin donation thingy in the footer.

Therefore, his theory is disproved.

227 BeachDem  May 9, 2015 8:52:34am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

August 22, 2014, maybe.

donotlink.com

Think Progress had a pretty good re-cap of “lawsuits—the early days” here.

thinkprogress.org

228 ObserverArt  May 9, 2015 8:56:59am

re: #226 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, yeah.

Y’know, he often disses boomers in his Twitter, saying we’re behind the times and millennials have got it all down. I’m a boomer. I use Bitcoin. gotnwes.com has a Bitcoin donation thingy in the footer.

Therefore, his theory is disproved.

What the hell is with this behind the times stuff. Chucky hasn’t advanced past the cavemen.

229 Eventual Carrion  May 9, 2015 8:58:54am

re: #170 wrenchwench

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At least that doesn’t appear petty,

230 Eventual Carrion  May 9, 2015 9:01:39am

re: #178 Justanotherhuman

What an idiot. Misspells “Kips Bay”. I saw “Reds” at that theater over 30 yrs ago; lived just a couple of blocks from it. What was an apt residence is now a cheap hotel usually patronized by European visitors.

tripadvisor.com

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson * 40m 40 minutes ago
I got the black movie theatre experience at Kipps Bay watching Age of Ultron.

Wonder if he had any motherfucking iced tea?

231 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 9:02:04am

re: #227 BeachDem

donotlink.com

Think Progress had a pretty good re-cap of “lawsuits—the early days” here.

thinkprogress.org

And the appeal to the MO Appeals Court was rejected, page 111, Dec 18 2014:
Scribd Document

232 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 9:03:20am

Why is UpChuck saying his mother-in-law is Buddhist?
He’s always going on and on about how they were Christians fleeing persecution from Muslims; and also the reason why he converted to Catholicism was because of his wife’s family.

233 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 9:04:13am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is UpChuck saying his mother-in-law is Buddhist?
He’s always going on and on about how they were Christians fleeing persecution from Muslims; and also the reason why he converted to Catholicism was because of his wife’s family.

Because he lies about everything?

234 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 9:05:08am

hey, klys!

235 Dark_Falcon  May 9, 2015 9:06:52am

re: #3 freetoken

Funny. All the versions of the NT I have read mentioned nothing about “brutal savages”.

Not that the NT is accurate - it’s anything but good history as we understand historiography today.

The Roman elite were the high society of the day.
Roman officers were educated.
Sanhedrin were the upper crust of local society.
The Pharisees were the educated elite of local society.

The only “savages” were the rebels… er… those who became the “Christians” of the first century.

What we have there is someone willfully misreading the historical facts in order to reach a predetermined conclusion.

236 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 9:08:17am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is UpChuck saying his mother-in-law is Buddhist?
He’s always going on and on about how they were Christians fleeing persecution from Muslims; and also the reason why he converted to Catholicism was because of his wife’s family.

I was wondering about that, too. Maybe his wife is a convert, but his in-laws remained Buddhist.

CCJ needs a retcon editor to clear up the inconsistencies in his history.

237 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 9:09:05am

re: #226 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, yeah.

Y’know, he often disses boomers in his Twitter, saying we’re behind the times and millennials have got it all down. I’m a boomer. I use Bitcoin. gotnwes.com has a Bitcoin donation thingy in the footer.

Therefore, his theory is disproved.

238 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 9, 2015 9:09:43am

Midnight here so I’m going to hit the hay. See you peeps later.

239 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 9:12:43am

UpChuck just tweeted the fake nude photo of Obama’s mother.

240 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 9:13:50am

Editor’s note: Parts of Kumanovo, Macedonia, were closed off after police clashed with an armed group earlier Saturday. The police operation came a day after nationwide protests against alleged police brutality, AP reports. We’re seeing unconfirmed reports that three policemen were killed in clashes and that people are seen fleeing the area. We will continue to watch this story. - Stephanie
end of note

Gunfire heard, smoke seen in Kumanovo, Macedonia, as police clash with ‘armed group’

241 Dark_Falcon  May 9, 2015 9:24:52am

re: #63 electrotek

I find it pretty pathetic that Armenians and Bosniaks would deny their respective genocides when their oppressors engage in genocide denial of their own. I was reading an article about Balkan Muslims straight-up denying the Armenian Genocide, including those who survived Srebrenica to my shock and horror. I was just upset to see it coming from those who suffered as much as Armenians did in 1915 to deny their suffering. I mean, WHAT THE FUCK?!:

Actually, I can give some insight on that one:

1. Many Balkan Muslims are at least somewhat pro-Turkey and don’t want to admit the nation that brought Islam to the Balkans carried out a genocide. Linked to this is that, just as some Christians sometimes engage in denial regarding murderous episodes in the history of their own faith, their own faith, many Muslims don’t want to ascribe major evil events to nations seen as Islamic.

2. Like the Serbs, Armenians were and mostly still are Orthodox Christians. And then as now, both of those nationalities have a large number of people who see Russia as the protector of their faith, a role promoted by the czars that Vladimir Putin has brought back in Recent years. This is very frightening to Balkan Muslim’s who fear Russia’s size and power. They fear that to concede the Armenian Genocide would be to help make the case for Russia as the ‘protector of Orthodox Christianity’.

242 BeachDem  May 9, 2015 9:27:36am

re: #213 Justanotherhuman

The Klown Kar Kandidates alight in SC.

Live video: Citizens United’s South Carolina Freedom Summit; speakers include Scott Walker, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Bobby Jindal, Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina - @NBCNews
see original on nbcnews.com

Our Dem Executive Director described it this way in his latest email:

This weekend, Citizens United will co-host the South Carolina Freedom Summit.

No, I’m not making this up.

The same group that has put our elections up for sale is now claiming to stand up for “grassroots activists” here in South Carolina.

This summit is scaling the heights of hypocrisy.

Featured speakers include big business executives and aspiring presidential candidates, all trying to climb even higher on the Republican political ladder.

This event isn’t about South Carolina. It’s about propelling these hypocrites toward their next self-serving goal.

243 jaunte  May 9, 2015 9:29:34am
244 Dark_Falcon  May 9, 2015 9:32:19am

re: #242 BeachDem

Standard-issue Dem DERP. [yawn]

245 Dr Lizardo  May 9, 2015 9:32:33am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Actually, I can give some insight on that one:

1. Many Balkan Muslims are at least somewhat pro-Turkey and don’t want to admit the nation that brought Islam to the Balkans carried out a genocide. Linked to this is that, just as some Christians sometimes engage in denial regarding murderous episodes in the history of their own faith, their own faith, many Muslims don’t want to ascribe major evil events to nations seen as Islamic.
2. Like the Serbs, Armenians were and mostly still are Orthodox Christians. And then as now, both of those nationalities have a large number of people who see Russia as the protector of their faith, a role promoted by the czars that Vladimir Putin has brought back in Recent years. This is very frightening to Balkan Muslim’s who fear Russia’s size and power. They fear that to concede the Armenian Genocide would be to help make the case for Russia as the ‘protector of Orthodox Christianity’.

All too true in my experience with Turkish Muslims - they sing the praises of the Ottoman Empire, but gloss over the genuinely shitty things they did from time to time.

This is much to be said for Sultans such as Suleiman the Magnificent. But we can’t overlook such Sultans as Selim the Grim……or for that matter, the monstrous actions of the Three Pashas.

246 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 9:33:16am

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

UpChuck just tweeted the fake nude photo of Obama’s mother.

Nope. Those alleged photos were also taken at xmas, since I looked at another source which had a number of those photos here (NSFW). This site appears to be a bad translation from another language: peculiarimage.blogspot.com

They claim these were released on a French site, Sérum de Liberté, which is described as a “pro-American” site and the same photos were on a DVD prepared by supporters of the Romney campaign and released by them.

“The pictures were making public along with a DVD - which SLANDERS the President in all different ways. The DVD which is FULL OF LIES, alleged that Obama’s mother Ann Dunham was lying about who Obama’s real dad was.”

247 Dark_Falcon  May 9, 2015 9:36:28am

re: #213 Justanotherhuman

The Klown Kar Kandidates alight in SC.

Live video: Citizens United’s South Carolina Freedom Summit; speakers include Scott Walker, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Bobby Jindal, Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina - @NBCNews
see original on nbcnews.com

Using a ‘KKK’ derivative like that is quite wrong when talking about most of the people you mentioned. as whatever else may be true Rubio, Cruz, Jindal, and Carson could never by Klansmen.

248 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 9:37:43am

H/t to Betty Cracker @ Balloon Juice:

249 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 9:43:27am

re: #246 Justanotherhuman

BTW, that site, Serum de Liberte, was recommended by this American RW, anti-Muslim site: saberpoint.blogspot.com

Serum de Liberte is no longer a functioning website.

250 Dark_Falcon  May 9, 2015 9:48:14am

re: #248 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

H/t to Betty Cracker @ Balloon Juice:

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Actually the final tally saw the Conservative Party win 331 seats in Parliament, an outright majority. So let me say to the Guardian: “Hurr, Hurr, Hurr!!”

Sorry, but when the side you favor gets a win this surprising you’ve just got to spike the football.

251 Eventual Carrion  May 9, 2015 9:48:57am

re: #233 Justanotherhuman

Because he lies about everything?

Beginning to think his hot Asian wife is actually his Pokemon card collection.

252 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 9:49:04am

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

Using a ‘KKK’ derivative like that is quite wrong when talking about most of the people you mentioned. as whatever else may be true Rubio, Cruz, Jindal, and Carson could never by Klansmen.

Why, because they only wear metaphorical white sheets? The repeat essentially the same talking points as any Klan member, just in a different way.

They’re racist, the lot of them, and you know it; even Carson is no doubt self-hating to be even hanging around with their kind.

253 Dark_Falcon  May 9, 2015 9:49:41am

re: #252 Justanotherhuman

Why, because they only wear metaphorical white sheets? The repeat essentially the same talking points as any Klan member, just in a different way.

They’re racist, the lot of them, and you know it; even Carson is no doubt self-hating to be even hanging around with their kind.

I disagree, vehemently.

254 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 10:00:05am

re: #253 Dark_Falcon

I disagree, vehemently.

Well then, you’re so hypnotized by that (R) next to their name that you’re paying no attention to what comes out of their mouths.

255 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 10:01:40am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

Actually the final tally saw the Conservative Party win 331 seats in Parliament, an outright majority. So let me say to the Guardian: “Hurr, Hurr, Hurr!!”

Sorry, but when the side you favor gets a win this surprising you’ve just got to spike the football.

jeebus Dark. Why do you have to go out of your way to be obnoxious, especially right after pompously yawning at Beach Dem, calling her comment “Standard-issue Dem DERP”?

256 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 10:02:07am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

Actually the final tally saw the Conservative Party win 331 seats in Parliament, an outright majority. So let me say to the Guardian: “Hurr, Hurr, Hurr!!”

Sorry, but when the side you favor gets a win this surprising you’ve just got to spike the football.

You know that’s a faked-up page, don’t you? Just for laughs.

257 SteelPH  May 9, 2015 10:02:37am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

Actually the final tally saw the Conservative Party win 331 seats in Parliament, an outright majority. So let me say to the Guardian: “Hurr, Hurr, Hurr!!”

Sorry, but when the side you favor gets a win this surprising you’ve just got to spike the football.

The fuck is wrong with you?

258 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 10:03:21am
259 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 10:03:42am

re: #256 Justanotherhuman

You know that’s a faked-up page, don’t you? Just for laughs.

I should have noted it originated at Buzzfeed.

260 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 10:07:00am

re: #259 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I should have noted it originated at Buzzfeed.

Yeah, and there was no Friday, May 5, 2015, anywhere on the planet. : )

261 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 10:07:03am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus Dark. Why do you have to go out of your way to be obnoxious, especially right after pompously yawning at Beach Dem, calling her comment “Standard-issue Dem DERP”?

Especially when there are maybe 10 states in this country where Cameron could get elected dogcatcher as a Democrat. But hey, “Conservative” sounds good!

262 Dark_Falcon  May 9, 2015 10:08:14am

re: #256 Justanotherhuman

You know that’s a faked-up page, don’t you? Just for laughs.

Oh, I knew. And I got a good laugh out of it, too. I just wanted to put my two cents in on it.

263 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 10:12:26am

re: #262 Dark_Falcon

two cents were wasted.

264 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 10:12:41am

Extra, Extra! From your RWNJ Wankers!

#JadeHelm15 spreading to the Dallas area now. Run for your lives!

Dallas/Fort Worth airport: Weather is impacting departures and arrivals - @dfwairport
see original on twitter.com

16m
Earthquake with preliminary magnitude of 2.7 centered near University Park, Texas, near Dallas - USGS
read more on usgs.gov

265 Dark_Falcon  May 9, 2015 10:16:07am

re: #264 Justanotherhuman

Extra, Extra! From your RWNJ Wankers!

#JadeHelm15 spreading to the Dallas area now. Run for your lives!

Dallas/Fort Worth airport: Weather is impacting departures and arrivals - @dfwairport
see original on twitter.com

16m
Earthquake with preliminary magnitude of 2.7 centered near University Park, Texas, near Dallas - USGS
read more on usgs.gov

Jade Helm 15 recently triggered something only slightly less remarkable than it appears: Rick Perry acting like the adult in the room.

Perry to Texas: Stop Being Insane

ormer Texas governor Rick Perry drew the sharpest contrast with Abbott’s Infowars pandering.

“It’s OK to question your government. I do it on a regular basis,” he said on May 5, per the Dallas Morning News. “But the military is something else. Our military is quite trustworthy. The civilian leadership, you can always question that, but not the men and women in uniform.”

Questioning men and women in uniform is exactly what Abbott did, and exactly what Cruz and Paul endorsed. Now, thanks to Infowars and unfounded anxieties, we have an early way of differentiating between some of the most conservative—and, in Perry’s case, potential—presidential candidates. Buckle up, guys. 2016 is going to be nuts.

266 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 10:17:18am

Texas being smited mightily! Well, it’s either that or #JadeHelm15.

Could be Mother Nature just spanking them?

267 Belafon  May 9, 2015 10:20:01am

An on purpose funny comment from my son who’s into mythology: “This is the story of Narcissist and Echo. Narcissist was such a narcissist that it’s probably where we get the word from.”

268 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 10:20:02am

Conway, SC, otherwise known as “The Speed Trap” on the way to Myrtle Beach.

Sorry, wrong paste. ; (

269 BeachDem  May 9, 2015 10:20:23am

re: #266 Justanotherhuman

Texas being smited mightily! Well, it’s either that or #JadeHelm15.

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Could be Mother Nature just spanking them?

Perhaps Ana is headed to SC in response to the Citizens United Freedom Summit (I laugh every time I see or say that) hootenanny going on right now in our fair state.

270 Charles Johnson  May 9, 2015 10:20:25am
271 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 10:21:41am

re: #266 Justanotherhuman

Texas being smited mightily! Well, it’s either that or #JadeHelm15.

[Embedded content]

Could be Mother Nature just spanking them?

They just need to pray harder…

272 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 10:21:54am

re: #270 Charles Johnson

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Couldn’t even size the head to look realistic? FFS.

273 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 10:22:20am

Heh, I put the wrong link in again on #268. Meh. Gotta slow down one of these days. : )

274 Belafon  May 9, 2015 10:23:34am

re: #266 Justanotherhuman

Texas being smited mightily! Well, it’s either that or #JadeHelm15.

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Could be Mother Nature just spanking them?

I think God’s punishing Oklahoma for Inhofe and Texas (where I am) for acting like Texas.

275 goddamnedfrank  May 9, 2015 10:25:47am

re: #250 Dark_Falcon

Actually the final tally saw the Conservative Party win 331 seats in Parliament, an outright majority. So let me say to the Guardian: “Hurr, Hurr, Hurr!!”

Sorry, but when the side you favor gets a win this surprising you’ve just got to spike the football.

Um, the closest thing the UK has to the current GOP is the UKIP. BNP would be the Tea Party. Sorry, but the Conservatives there would be Blue Dog Democrats in the US on their most rightward of days. Labour would be moderate dems, SNP the liberal wing.

276 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 10:27:13am

re: #274 Belafon

I think God’s punishing Oklahoma for Inhofe and Texas (where I am) for acting like Texas.

They’re being punished for gay marriage—not the folks who have gay marriage. </Wingnut Logic>

277 Belafon  May 9, 2015 10:27:32am

DF will be one of those people sitting under the bridge, clinging to his shower curtain rod, laughing at the people walking by because they didn’t have a rod to cook their pigeon on.

278 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 10:27:43am

LOLOLOLOL!!!
UpChuck WAS THERE!!!

279 Timothy Watson  May 9, 2015 10:29:39am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL!!!
UpChuck WAS THERE!!!

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McChuckleNuts wasn’t even born when Davis died.

280 Belafon  May 9, 2015 10:29:44am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

And I’ve met Lee Harvey Oswald’s wife, Marina, (my dad is friends with her son by her second marriage), and you, Chuck are no Lee Oswald.

281 Eventual Carrion  May 9, 2015 10:29:56am

re: #264 Justanotherhuman

Extra, Extra! From your RWNJ Wankers!

#JadeHelm15 spreading to the Dallas area now. Run for your lives!

Dallas/Fort Worth airport: Weather is impacting departures and arrivals - @dfwairport
see original on twitter.com

16m
Earthquake with preliminary magnitude of 2.7 centered near University Park, Texas, near Dallas - USGS
read more on usgs.gov

Good, the military’s Tectonic Disruption Beam (TDB) is working as expected.

282 BeachDem  May 9, 2015 10:31:05am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL!!!
UpChuck WAS THERE!!!

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Such traveler
Very observe
Extreme true

(What. An. Asshole.)

283 Charles Johnson  May 9, 2015 10:31:42am
284 Charles Johnson  May 9, 2015 10:34:27am
285 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 9, 2015 10:40:40am

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

I haven’t stitched on that in a while. I should. All the white is depressing me.

I got an EMAIL from a USER today who found my app and likes the concept and had a bug report (which will get pushed out as fixed as soon as I’ve resolved if I am also making the change to another section).

But! But! USER!

286 Charles Johnson  May 9, 2015 10:41:25am
287 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 10:41:31am

re: #284 Charles Johnson

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288 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 10:41:49am

re: #285 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I haven’t stitched on that in a while. I should. All the white is depressing me.

I got an EMAIL from a USER today who found my app and likes the concept and had a bug report (which will get pushed out as fixed as soon as I’ve resolved if I am also making the change to another section).

But! But! USER!

YAY, YOU!

289 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 10:42:51am

re: #274 Belafon

I think God’s punishing Oklahoma for Inhofe and Texas (where I am) for acting like Texas.

Speaking of OK, here is some background on the early years of the Dunhams when they lived in Ponca City, OK. Very pleasant reading and nothiing negative.

peacecorpsonline.typepad.com

290 Iwouldprefernotto  May 9, 2015 10:43:19am

re: #286 Charles Johnson

[What more evidence do you need?

I have all the evidence I need that CCJ is a raving ass.

291 ObserverArt  May 9, 2015 10:44:50am

So, if I get Dark’s comment, Rubio, Cruz, Jindal, and Carson could never be Klansmen because all they are doing is what it takes to get the nomination and then they will change up and proceed to distance themselves from any crazy connections.

I guess instead of KKK sheets, they attach flea collars around their necks and go in wearing full hazard suits to keep down the diseases.

I look at them as animal handlers at the zoo who feed the monkeys and then get to clean up all the flung dung later so when the new visitors show up the next day it doesn’t smell too bad.

And just like animal handlers, they are not qualified to be holding high offices in this country. But no way they are KKK.

Is that about it Dark?

292 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 10:44:59am
293 jaunte  May 9, 2015 10:46:43am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Among religions, white evangelical Protestants were the only major group in which a majority said the recent police killings of black men were isolated incidents.”
vox.com

294 Eclectic Cyborg  May 9, 2015 10:47:49am

Picture of CCJ standing in front of what he thinks was Davis’ house coming in 3..2..1..

295 Amory Blaine  May 9, 2015 10:48:24am

Just donated under my super villain name.

296 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 10:50:58am

re: #291 ObserverArt

So, if I get Dark’s comment, Rubio, Cruz, Jindal, and Carson could never be Klansmen because all they are doing is what it takes to get the nomination and then they will change up and proceed to distance themselves from any crazy connections.

I guess instead of KKK sheets, they attach flea collars around their necks and go in wearing full hazard suits to keep down the diseases.

I look at them as animal handlers at the zoo who feed the monkeys and then get to clean up all the flung dung later so when the new visitors show up the next day it doesn’t smell too bad.

And just like animal handlers, they are not qualified to be holding high offices in this country. But no way they are KKK.

Is that about it Dark?

I think he meant they couldn’t be Klansmen because they’re not “White”. Of course, Jindal is Aryan—that always confuses KKKers and Nazis.

297 stpaulbear  May 9, 2015 10:50:59am

re: #285 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I haven’t stitched on that in a while. I should. All the white is depressing me.

I got an EMAIL from a USER today who found my app and likes the concept and had a bug report (which will get pushed out as fixed as soon as I’ve resolved if I am also making the change to another section).

But! But! USER!

USER!

298 jaunte  May 9, 2015 10:51:45am

re: #295 Amory Blaine

Just donated under my super villain name.

Everyone should contribute at least a buck under the name of “Hot Asian In-Laws”

299 Dark_Falcon  May 9, 2015 10:52:44am

re: #277 Belafon

You are seriously out of line with that sort of personal attack. Cool it.

300 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 10:53:57am

If this were Obama’s mother—IOW somebody clumsily photoshopped her head onto her own body—this would discredit Obama…how, exactly?

301 ObserverArt  May 9, 2015 10:54:35am

re: #296 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think he meant they couldn’t be Klansmen because they’re not “White”. Of course, Jindal is Aryan—that always confuses KKKers and Nazis.

Who could tell under the sheets?

/

…and I forgot one for my last post. /

302 Dark_Falcon  May 9, 2015 10:55:54am

re: #296 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think he meant they couldn’t be Klansmen because they’re not “White”. Of course, Jindal is Aryan—that always confuses KKKers and Nazis.

That’s all it meant. By its own stated membership criteria, those 4 men could never join the Klan. I also don’t believe that either Rubio or Fiorina is racist.

303 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 10:56:01am

re: #300 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If this were Obama’s mother—IOW somebody clumsily photoshopped her head onto her own body—this would discredit Obama…how, exactly?

because…reasons! SHUT UP!!!11!!!

304 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 10:57:10am

UpChuck is so freaking gullible:

305 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 11:00:27am
306 Iwouldprefernotto  May 9, 2015 11:00:35am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

UpChuck is so freaking gullible:

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I don’t think it even looks like Obama’s mother. Even so, CCJ is an ass, and I will not complain when someone takes a swing at him.

307 Dark_Falcon  May 9, 2015 11:00:37am

re: #300 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If this were Obama’s mother—IOW somebody clumsily photoshopped her head onto her own body—this would discredit Obama…how, exactly?

It would ‘prove’ she was a slut because she let herself be photographed in the nude, which ‘respectable’ women of her time did not do. It’s basically a meme that says “Barack Obama is the son of a slut and a [n-word].” It is a meme driven solely by hate, and has no redeeming value.

308 jaunte  May 9, 2015 11:02:36am
309 jaunte  May 9, 2015 11:02:59am
310 jaunte  May 9, 2015 11:04:04am
311 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 11:05:16am
312 WhatEVs  May 9, 2015 11:07:37am

re: #307 Dark_Falcon

It would ‘prove’ she was a slut because she let herself be photographed in the nude, which ‘respectable’ women of her time did not do. It’s basically a meme that says “Barack Obama is the son of a slut and a [n-word LOVER].” It is a meme driven solely by hate, and have no redeeming value.

It’s the ni**er LOVER that gets them. All the rest is true.

313 Joe Bacon  May 9, 2015 11:08:52am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

UpChuck is so freaking gullible:

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Deep down, I believe Ginger Snapped gets off on just the thoughts those pictures stir. He’s a pathetically sick freak.

314 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 11:10:17am

Tornado watch area today and tonight.

spc.noaa.gov

315 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 11:11:05am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

UpChuck is so freaking gullible:

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Did a Nigerian prince sell him Davis’ porn collection?

316 BeachDem  May 9, 2015 11:14:18am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

Picture of CCJ standing in front of what he thinks was Davis’ house coming in 3..2..1..

From some quick research. Davis died in 1987. The Honolulu house that they say he lived in is owned by a guy who is a set designer who has worked on projects in Hawaii since the early 90s. (Not sure how long he’s owned the house, but probably a good while.)

Sooooo—why would any of Davis’s stuff still be in the house by the time upchuck presumably went there? Why would the current owner have even let the little twit near his house?

I’m guessing upchuck’s claim to fame about the house was a drive by (if, in fact, he even drove by the correct house) to confirm the conspiracy loons’ contention that the placement of the windows in the living room proves something or other. So, in other words, CONFIRMED FACT, LIBTARDS.

317 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 11:15:58am

re: #315 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Did a Nigerian prince sell him Davis’ porn collection?

Not to mention, those pix aren’t even considered porn, even back in the ’60s they were just nudies. I’m just going to assume they were around 1960 or so, just look at that furniture. I remember that well. : )

318 b.d.  May 9, 2015 11:16:52am

Someone tweeted to Chuck C on how even the morons at freerepublic.com debunked the Dunham porn bs.

freerepublic.com

If FreeRepublic abandoned your fevered conspiracy over 3 years ago then it is time to move on.

319 blueraven  May 9, 2015 11:18:31am

re: #300 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If this were Obama’s mother—IOW somebody clumsily photoshopped her head onto her own body—this would discredit Obama…how, exactly?

It is probably not a photoshop but it is not Obamas mother. This was thoroughly debunked by none other than…Free Republic.

Pics of the same model in 1958 when Stanley Ann Dunham was 15, long before they moved to Hawaii.

from 1958

It is a woman who posed for a porn magazine in the 50s who bears a superficial resemblance.

freerepublic.com

320 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 11:22:11am

re: #317 Justanotherhuman

Not to mention, those pix aren’t even considered porn, even back in the ’60s they were just nudies. I’m just going to assume they were around 1960 or so, just look at that furniture. I remember that well. : )

Looked to me like obligatory walnut had replaced obligatory mahogany, so I would have guessed ~1963—but maybe we were behind.

321 blueraven  May 9, 2015 11:23:10am

re: #319 blueraven

It is probably not a photoshop but it is not Obamas mother. This was thoroughly debunked by none other than…Free Republic.

Pics of the same model in 1958 when Stanley Ann Dunham was 15, long before they moved to Hawaii.

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It is a woman who posed for a porn magazine in the 50s who bears a superficial resemblance.

freerepublic.com

Forgot to add, even though it is a given. Babycakes is scum.

322 jaunte  May 9, 2015 11:25:34am
323 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 11:27:55am

re: #317 Justanotherhuman

Not to mention, those pix aren’t even considered porn, even back in the ’60s they were just nudies. I’m just going to assume they were around 1960 or so, just look at that furniture. I remember that well. : )

Supposedly it happened in the late 60s (according to Joel Gilbert in his stupid film in 2008).
But Ann Dunham was already in Indonesia and the photos did not come from Davis. It was a bunch of Romney supporters who dug up those unrelated photos from a 1969 magazine.
And, as was noted earlier, it doesn’t even look like her.

324 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 11:34:19am

idiots are everywhere:

325 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 11:34:50am

re: #320 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Looked to me like obligatory walnut had replaced obligatory mahogany, so I would have guessed ~1963—but maybe we were behind.

We had fake walnut veneer tables like that in 1960. And one of those awful, uncomfortable sofas. I hated that stuff.

326 blueraven  May 9, 2015 11:37:32am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

Supposedly it happened in the late 60s (according to Joel Gilbert in his stupid film in 2008).
But Ann Dunham was already in Indonesia and the photos did not come from Davis. It was a bunch of Romney supporters who dug up those unrelated photos from a 1969 magazine.
And, as was noted earlier, it doesn’t even look like her.

I think his claim is that the photos are from December ‘60 and that this proves FMD and Dunham were having an affair therefore Obama’s real father has to be FMD. This is the insanity of his idiotic “Dreams From My Real Father”

327 Charles Johnson  May 9, 2015 11:38:22am

That Free Republic post is definitive. It’s not Ann Dunham; it can’t be. (And it doesn’t even really look like her.)

freerepublic.com

328 BeachDem  May 9, 2015 11:38:32am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

Supposedly it happened in the late 60s (according to Joel Gilbert in his stupid film in 2008).
But Ann Dunham was already in Indonesia and the photos did not come from Davis. It was a bunch of Romney supporters who dug up those unrelated photos from a 1969 magazine.
And, as was noted earlier, it doesn’t even look like her.

That might be YOUR truth, but it’s not necessarily THEIR truth, something, something. UPCHUCK WENT TO THE HOUSE!! And he says the pics came from Davis’s collection which he sold. And we all know that upchuck’s word can be taken as gospel. (and he went to the house!!) So there.

329 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 11:45:19am

From all indications, none of UpChuck’s family members want to spend time with him either:

330 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 11:49:10am
331 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 11:50:15am

re: #328 BeachDem

That might be YOUR truth, but it’s not necessarily THEIR truth, something, something. UPCHUCK WENT TO THE HOUSE!! And he says the pics came from Davis’s collection which he sold. And we all know that upchuck’s word can be taken as gospel. (and he went to the house!!) So there.

Davis sold his collection, and he went to the house 40 years later, and…oh, shit, my brain’s shorting out!

332 stpaulbear  May 9, 2015 11:50:22am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

From all indications, none of UpChuck’s family members want to spend time with him either:

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He’d be pathetic if he wasn’t so punchable.

333 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 11:53:15am

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe whoever defaced that memorial should have to go back in time and see what it was like to have your country bombed day after day by the Nazis. They would probably be cowering in blackout shelters and peeing themselves silly.

Many of those women held down the home front in Britain and were enlisted in the cause of protecting the country, in working desk jobs, factory jobs in the war effort (those things don’t make themselves) and in other areas, not to mention what part they played in the actual battles. The entire country was engaged in protecting itself, except for maybe a handful of idiots like whoever did that. I may not like war, but when you’re attacked, you have to defend yourself, and these women came through with whatever they could contribute.

These people have no idea because they’re just haters with nothing else to do but try to destroy by anarchistic vandalism.

334 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 11:53:57am
335 Romantic Heretic  May 9, 2015 11:57:38am

re: #257 SteelPH

The fuck is wrong with you?

The usual; anger, fear.

336 BigPapa  May 9, 2015 12:02:49pm

Anger and Fear makes me Happy.

337 Charles Johnson  May 9, 2015 12:05:18pm
338 blueraven  May 9, 2015 12:08:01pm

re: #337 Charles Johnson

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In other words, he wants to continue with what Obama has been doing but with a bullhorn and chest thumping for effect? Not impressed.

339 Charles Johnson  May 9, 2015 12:09:55pm
340 Charles Johnson  May 9, 2015 12:10:46pm

Retweeted by Chuckie:

341 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 12:18:10pm

re: #340 Charles Johnson

Two words assholes: Dr. Tiller.

342 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 12:20:14pm

They must be runninng short of enough crazies to take up their cause.

Iraqi officials: Islamic State militants staged prison break in Iraq - @Reuters
end of alert

Death toll from Iraq prison break rises to 50 inmates, 12 police, prison and police officials say - @Reuters
end of alert

343 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 12:20:46pm
Is there really any material difference between a Planned Parenthood abortionist and a Sharia executioner, @ChuckCJohnson ?

Yeah, ‘cause Sharia Law is all about the abortions.

344 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 12:22:59pm

They just want to show the rest of the country how cray-cray he is.

345 Charles Johnson  May 9, 2015 12:31:07pm
346 BigPapa  May 9, 2015 12:31:09pm

So this happened:

Three women ‘rape man, steal his semen’

Those Scare Quotes are forealz, man

347 BigPapa  May 9, 2015 12:34:17pm

re: #345 Charles Johnson

Vote Camacho. He’s for burrito toppings.

You’re not against more burrito toppings, are you?

348 EPR-radar  May 9, 2015 12:36:23pm

re: #345 Charles Johnson

The 2016 GOP clown car will make the GOP circus of 2012 look relatively sensible and sane.

In due course, the 2020 GOP derpularity will make the 2016 GOP clown car look sane.

There is no apparent way the GOP can even stop its ongoing degeneration into a party of fascist nitwits, much less reverse it.

349 WhatEVs  May 9, 2015 12:41:05pm

re: #348 EPR-radar

The 2016 GOP clown car will make the GOP circus of 2012 look relatively sensible and sane.

In due course, the 2020 GOP derpularity will make the 2016 GOP clown car look sane.

There is no apparent way the GOP can even stop its ongoing degeneration into a party of fascist nitwits, much less reverse it.

Not as long as the R next to their name rules the tiniest modicum of common sense. The R is all that matters. And I’m not even talking about the sociopaths that want poor folks to starve, get sick and die. Those people are lost at heart. I’m talking about average people who have been brainwashed to believe Cons are fiscally responsible or security able, neither of which passes the smell test.

Limbaugh, Ailes, et al, have done their jobs well.

350 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 12:43:11pm

Just for an abrupt change of pace:

351 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 9, 2015 12:43:37pm

re: #348 EPR-radar

There is no apparent way the GOP can even stop its ongoing degeneration into a party of fascist nitwits, much less reverse it.

They GOP mainstream thought they could harness all that bat-shit crazy through the TPGOP. But the GOP establishment shied away from challenging or even distancing themselves from some of their more outrageous claims and stances these people made, which led to an attention-grabbing race to the bottom to see who could come up with the most deranged anti-government, anti Obama/Hillary theories.

The Jade Helm CT’s are the latest installment in the ongoing drive to outdo each other for outrageous paranoid claims.

352 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 12:50:15pm

re: #348 EPR-radar

The 2016 GOP clown car will make the GOP circus of 2012 look relatively sensible and sane.

In due course, the 2020 GOP derpularity will make the 2016 GOP clown car look sane.

There is no apparent way the GOP can even stop its ongoing degeneration into a party of fascist nitwits, much less reverse it.

You know, they would have had it made in the shade. There’s this large contingent of Idiots Low-Information Voters™ who think the White House should alternate between the parties because Magic Balance Fairy or something—We’ve had one 8-year Democratic administration, followed by an 8-year Republican administration, followed by an 8-year Democratic administration…if the GOPers could just have kept it in their pants, they’d have a very good chance of getting the cycle vote and winning. But they just can’t seem to keep it in their pants….

353 Ace-o-aces  May 9, 2015 12:52:59pm

re: #327 Charles Johnson

That Free Republic post is definitive.

Now there are some words your rarely see.

354 blueraven  May 9, 2015 12:56:03pm

re: #326 blueraven

I think his claim is that the photos are from December ‘60 and that this proves FMD and Dunham were having an affair therefore Obama’s real father has to be FMD. This is the insanity of his idiotic “Dreams From My Real Father”

BTW, if anyone is interested.

This is a series of blog posts by the author of that Free Rebublic piece debunking the Ann Dunham nude photo. In fact that piece was first published at their blog:

BARACKRYPHAL
A SKEPTIC’S GUIDE TO BIRTHERISM

All of the following can be found in the October 2012 archive

Joel Gilbert’s Evolving Disclaimer
Interview on KRUU
Joel Gilbert’s Ever-Changing Story
Quoted in the Orlando Sentinel
Joel Gilbert vs. The Complete Exotique
Joel Gilbert Really Is Lying To You
Bullspotting: Finding Facts in the Age of Misinfor…
Fever Dreams From My Real Father #1: The Nude Phot…
Fever Dreams From My Real Father #2: “Anne” vs. An…
Fever Dreams From My Real Father #3: Factual Faili…
Fever Dreams From My Real Father #4: Family Portra…
Fever Dreams From My Real Father #5: Joel Gilbert’…

355 EPR-radar  May 9, 2015 12:58:03pm

re: #352 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You know, they would have had it made in the shade. There’s this large contingent of Idiots Low-Information VotersTM who think the White House should alternate between the parties because Magic Balance Fairy or something—We’ve had one 8-year Democratic administration, followed by an 8-year Republican administration, followed by an 8-year Democratic administration…if the GOPers could just have kept it in their pants, they’d have a very good chance of getting the cycle vote and winning. But they just can’t seem to keep it in their pants….

This is exactly my main concern about 2016. There may be enough of these MBF fools out there to give the election to the GOP candidate, no matter what kind of nut job is the last person standing in the GOP primary.

356 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 1:01:44pm
357 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 1:06:28pm

re: #349 WhatEVs

Not as long as the R next to their name rules the tiniest modicum of common sense. The R is all that matters. And I’m not even talking about the sociopaths that want poor folks to starve, get sick and die. Those people are lost at heart. I’m talking about average people who have been brainwashed to believe Cons are fiscally responsible or security able, neither of which passes the smell test.

Limbaugh, Ailes, et al, have done their jobs well.

Fascist leaders always promise every type of person, from ordinary worker to business leader an improvement in times of economic stress and they must find the perfect “whipping boys” to demonize. In the US, there are enough of those in various different groups to do so and Muslims, immigrant Latinos, and Blacks are at the top of the list. This is pretty obvious as the right wing becomes even more racist, nationalistic and militaristic.

Completely domesticating women’s role is also a feature, along with a solid commitment to christianity, although a bit more difficult to realize in the 21st century, but they’re doing their damndest trying to change that, also. And they’re searching for just the right person in the party to fulfill all their dreams, a charismatic person who can exploit those fears fully and articulate the wish list of those who think that way, someone they can embrace fully.

It ain’t gonna happen. They’ll simply wind up being a mosquito on the back of democracy. But it will be a constant battle for those who wouldn’t wish them on anyone.

358 jaunte  May 9, 2015 1:06:53pm

Horse Already Left Barn Department

359 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 1:07:41pm

re: #355 EPR-radar

This is exactly my main concern about 2016. There may be enough of these MBF fools out there to give the election to the GOP candidate, no matter what kind of nut job is the last person standing in the GOP primary.

I guess that could happen. I’m hoping, despite the frothing Clinton hatred among a small segment of nutjobs, Hillary Clinton will be such a comforting (and familiar) presence up against the foaming loons on the other side that it will overcome the MBF bullshit. Also, she’s a reminder of happier times for a lot of people, me included.

Edited to remove second frothing.

360 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 1:08:24pm

O_o

361 BeachDem  May 9, 2015 1:09:44pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

The coverage these clown car hootenannies receive is ridiculous—especially considering they hold one every week or so.

On the one hand, I guess it exposes their idiocy for all to see. But it gives the losers more face time than they deserve (upping their name recognition) and it seems that there are more important things that should be being covered.

362 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:10:35pm

re: #345 Charles Johnson

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I imagine it’s going to be even worse in 2020 should they lose.

363 BeachDem  May 9, 2015 1:11:18pm

re: #359 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I guess that could happen. I’m hoping, despite the frothing Clinton hatred among a small segment of nutjobs, Hillary Clinton will be such a comforting (and familiar) presence up against the frothing loons on the other side that it will overcome the MBF bullshit. Also, she’s a reminder of happier times for a lot of people, me included.

From your lips to the voting booths of America.

364 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:11:45pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

From all indications, none of UpChuck’s family members want to spend time with him either:

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That’s okay, Chuck. I don’t think most people socialist or not like to hang out with drunk floor shitters.

365 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 9, 2015 1:11:48pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

After the 2006/07 surge Iraq stood a chance…

One more surge and they’d have been whipped…just like Vietnam…

/

366 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 1:11:53pm

This is from the Met:

UPDATE: Five arrested and officers injured during spontanious anti-austerity protest

mynewsdesk.com

(snip)

Officers are aware of criminal damage to the Women’s War Memorial in Whitehall and are investigating.

There are no reported injuries to any members of the public.

Officers are working to minimise disruption to all road users and members of the public passing through the area.

367 Charles Johnson  May 9, 2015 1:11:58pm

re: #354 blueraven

I really haven’t paid much attention to Joel Gilbert, but wow, is he ever a creepy, lying bastard. Makes perfect sense that Chuck Johnson would hook up with someone this awful.

368 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 1:12:15pm

re: #362 HappyWarrior

I imagine it’s going to be even worse in 2020 should they lose.

Oh, God—2020 is going to be unbelievable. Whatever detritus they throw up this time just wasn’t “conservative enough”.

369 Targetpractice  May 9, 2015 1:12:21pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Yeah, and we were totally winning the hearts and minds in Vietnam.

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370 BeachDem  May 9, 2015 1:12:57pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

[Embedded content]

Can you say bullshit? I know that you can.

Wonder if Marsha Blackburn has polluted the SC air with her idiocy yet. I’m sure she has several words of wisdom to impart.

371 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:14:27pm

re: #368 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Oh, God—2020 is going to be unbelievable. Whatever detritus they throw up this time just wasn’t “conservative enough”.

Yeah I can’t wait to hear that excuse. They really think Americans just want a “true conservative” when the reality is more and more Americans are disgusted with “true conservatism.”

372 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 1:15:31pm

Just musing…is it possible to spot a Fascist by the fact that they can’t spell “Fascist”?

373 jaunte  May 9, 2015 1:15:46pm

Bobby Jindal’s about to give all his stuff away to the poor!!!
Oh wait.

374 Targetpractice  May 9, 2015 1:16:03pm

Bolton is one of those fellows who, to this day, is absolutely convinced that we had Vietnam won, but “peaceniks” gave it away.

375 EPR-radar  May 9, 2015 1:16:40pm

re: #361 BeachDem

The coverage these clown car hootenannies receive is ridiculous—especially considering they hold one every week or so.

On the one hand, I guess it exposes their idiocy for all to see. But it gives the losers more face time than they deserve (upping their name recognition) and it seems that there are more important things that should be being covered.

Actually, there are few things more important than exposing the malice and insanity at the heart of the GOP base. However, the MSM coverage of these GOP freak shows is too neutral favorable to get the job done.

Edited for accuracy

376 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 1:16:54pm

re: #373 jaunte

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Bobby Jindal’s about to give all his stuff away to the poor!!!
Oh wait.

377 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 1:17:10pm

re: #374 Targetpractice

Bolton is one of those fellows who, to this day, is absolutely convinced that we had Vietnam won, but “peaceniks” gave it away.

Die Dolchstosslegende.

378 William Lewis  May 9, 2015 1:17:37pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Were I on twitter, the only response would be “if you’re dumb enough to believe that, you’re probably one of the criminals that started the war.”

379 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:17:51pm

re: #374 Targetpractice

Bolton is one of those fellows who, to this day, is absolutely convinced that we had Vietnam won, but “peaceniks” gave it away.

I have no doubt of that at all since that’s a common belief in war hungry assholes like him.

380 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 9, 2015 1:18:03pm

re: #374 Targetpractice

Bolton is one of those fellows who, to this day, is absolutely convinced that we had Vietnam (insert name of war) won, but “peaceniks” (whichever group you wish to demonize) gave it away.

381 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 1:18:05pm

Ben Carson off to a roaring start:

382 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:18:29pm

re: #378 William Lewis

Were I on twitter, the only response would be “if you’re dumb enough to believe that, you’re probably one of the criminals that started the war.”

He’ll probably be a frontrunner for Secretary of State if a Republican is elected. Shivers.

383 palomino  May 9, 2015 1:18:36pm

re: #322 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Rubio says, “We will look for you, find you and kill you” as if that were some departure from what we already do.

Fact is, we’ve been killing jihadists for years in exactly that manner, just not thumping our chests the way reactionaries in Rubio’s party demand. From bin Laden 4 years ago to al-Ansi 3 days ago, we’ve killed thousands of jihadists along the way.

Apparently that’s not good enough for the fantasists who populate the gop base; they need a fictional Hollywood tough guy persona in order to feel satisfied. Both ironic and a bit perverse.

384 jaunte  May 9, 2015 1:19:09pm

“religious liberty created the United States”

“…Paternalism in government was the rule in the other colonies and in Europe, but nowhere was it carried to such an extreme as in New England.

Here the civil law laid its hand upon the citizen in his business and social relations; it regulated his religious affairs, it dictated his dress, and even invaded the home circle and directed his family relations. One law forbade the wearing of lace, another of “slashed cloaths other than one slash in each sleeve and another in the back.” The length and width of a lady’s sleeve was solemnly decided by law. It was a penal offense for a man to wear long hair, or to smoke in the street, or for a youth to court a maid without the consent of her parents. A man was not permitted to kiss his wife in public. Captain Kimble, returning from a three-years’ ocean voyage, kissed his wife on his own doorstep and spent two hours in the stocks for his “lewed and unseemly behavior.”
usahistory.info

385 EPR-radar  May 9, 2015 1:19:23pm

re: #374 Targetpractice

Bolton is one of those fellows who, to this day, is absolutely convinced that we had Vietnam won, but “peaceniks” gave it away.

As I understand it, this kind of Vietnam revisionism is becoming GOP dogma.

It really is remarkable. Pick any 100% bone-headed policy position (i.e., so bad it ‘isn’t even wrong’ as the physicists would say), and odds are that it is now GOP dogma or shortly will be.

386 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:19:27pm

Blaming the hippies for Vietnam is the American version of the stab in the back myth spread by German rightists after WWI.

387 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 1:19:30pm

re: #377 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Die Dolchstosslegende.

Novemberverbrecher

388 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:20:12pm

re: #383 palomino

Rubio says, “We will look for you, find you and kill you” as if that were some departure from what we already do.

Fact is, we’ve been killing jihadists for years in exactly that manner, just not thumping our chests the way reactionaries in Rubio’s party demand. From bin Laden 4 years ago to al-Ansi 3 days ago, we’ve killed thousands of jihadists along the way.

Apparently that’s not good enough for the fantasists who populate the gop base; they need a fictional Hollywood tough guy persona in order to feel satisfied. Both ironic and a bit perverse.

Marco really is a shitty leader. He offers nothing about how he would be more effective against terrorism. Just likes to act tough since the GOP base eats that shit for breakfast.

389 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 1:20:34pm

re: #375 EPR-radar

Actually, there are few things more important than exposing the malice and insanity at the heart of the GOP base. However, the MSM coverage of these GOP freak shows is too neutral to get the job done.

My only comfort is reflecting that when Frank Capra was in charge of US propaganda during WWII, he didn’t shoot a single foot of film. He just showed German, Italian, and Japanese propaganda and let them speak for themselves.

390 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 1:20:45pm

well, except for his mom:

391 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:21:30pm

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, except for his mom:

[Embedded content]

Yes, Ben single moms are ruining America but not your right wing shithead friends who get much more from the government. Really asshole stop smearing single moms you pathetic piece of shit.

392 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:24:19pm

You know what kind of government dependency cons like Carson never talk about, the kind where corporations get all sorts of help from their right wing buddies in government. Yeah Ben, what’s worse? A single mom raising a family needing a hand or an already wealthy corporation getting coddled by the government. This is yet another example of conservative intellectual and moral hypocrisy.

393 EPR-radar  May 9, 2015 1:24:41pm

re: #389 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My only comfort is reflecting that when Frank Capra was in charge of US propaganda during WWII, he didn’t shoot a single foot of film. He just showed German, Italian, and Japanese propaganda and let them speak for themselves.

That would work here. The real problem I have is that the MSM basically pushes the notion that the Democrats and Republicans are both reasonable alternatives via MBF coverage of political races. That’s a real problem, IMO.

So I mis-spoke upthread where I said the MSM was ‘too neutral’ to get the job done. They are actually much more favorable to the GOP than the GOP deserves.

394 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 1:24:42pm

re: #382 HappyWarrior

He’ll probably be a frontrunner for Secretary of State if a Republican is elected. Shivers.

He was Secretary of State in effect for years. Condoleezza Rice was just a sockpuppet of his.

395 CuriousLurker  May 9, 2015 1:25:12pm

re: #367 Charles Johnson

I really haven’t paid much attention to Joel Gilbert, but wow, is he ever a creepy, lying bastard. Makes perfect sense that Chuck Johnson would hook up with someone this awful.

LOL—well due to some of Gilbert’s research, one of the “citizen journalists” over at the always reliable Examiner(dot)com is 50% sold on the idea that Elvis is still alive. UpChuck is totally in his element with these freaks.

396 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:26:02pm

re: #394 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

He was Secretary of State in effect for years. Condoleezza Rice was just a sockpuppet of his.

Oh yeah for sure. Really I knew all I needed to know about Romney when I saw that Bolton was advising him. Yep repeat the same mistakes of the Bush years and I believe Jeb was recently quoted as saying he considers his brother his top ME adviser. Uh hooray said no one ever.

397 Dr Lizardo  May 9, 2015 1:27:17pm

re: #368 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Oh, God—2020 is going to be unbelievable. Whatever detritus they throw up this time just wasn’t “conservative enough”.

They’ll need to find a way to resurrect this chap:

General Augusto José Ramón Pinochet Ugarte.

Whaddaya think - maybe too “ethnic-y” for the wingnuts?

/////

398 goddamnedfrank  May 9, 2015 1:27:24pm

re: #367 Charles Johnson

I really haven’t paid much attention to Joel Gilbert, but wow, is he ever a creepy, lying bastard. Makes perfect sense that Chuck Johnson would hook up with someone this awful.

Not just look up to, Chuck actively partnered with Gilbert in the formation of Got News LLC. He told this to Orly Taitz early last year.

The reason Johnson is not talking now, is because he is writing a book and he stated at the same meeting at the Riviera Country Club that this book will destroy Obama’s legacy and what we know about Obama. He also stated that he is also preparing to launch a web site together with the filmmaker Joel Gilbert. Gilbert is the producer and director of the movie “Dreams from my REAL Father”, where he claims that devout communist and writer of some perverted sexual memoirs, Frank Marshall Davis, is Obama’s biological father.

The Blaze confirmed this when the Stevie Fielder story broke.

It’s worth noting that the folks behind GotNews [dot] com, independent journalist Charles C. Johnson and documentary filmmaker Joel Gilbert, paid Fielder for his story, something Fielder made sure to confirm during the interview.

Joel Gilbert was also the listed last year as the registered corporate agent for Got News LLC on the California Secretary of State database, but Chuck has since changed that. Gilbert’s name is still there on the Corporation Wiki listing.

399 BeachDem  May 9, 2015 1:27:34pm

If you don’t get enough of these guys at the FREEDOM SUMMIT, not to worry—co-host, Jeff Duncan, will be having his FAITH AND FREEDOM BBQ just down the road later in the summer. (and you know, if something has FREEDOM in the title, it’s bound to be good!)

Duncan was a bit worried during the planning stages for this weekend’s hootenanny that it might take away from his other event. I’m certain the local loons will be glad to attend both, and the clown car passengers as well.

400 CuriousLurker  May 9, 2015 1:28:49pm

Yeah, religious liberty, but not for Muslims. Because Islam isn’t a religion or some such idiotic bullshit.

401 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 1:28:51pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah for sure. Really I knew all I needed to know about Romney when I saw that Bolton was advising him. Yep repeat the same mistakes of the Bush years and I believe Jeb was recently quoted as saying he considers his brother his top ME adviser. Uh hooray said no one ever.

Bolton’s first act when Dubya got in was to get him to renege on the Agreed Framework with North Korea, which resulted in their three (failed) nuclear tests. Who wouldn’t want more of that ace diplomaticking?

402 EPR-radar  May 9, 2015 1:31:16pm

re: #401 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Bolton’s first act when Dubya got in was to get him to renege on the Agreed Framework with North Korea, which resulted in their three (failed) nuclear tets. Who wouldn’t want more of that ace diplomaticking?

It still boggles the mind that I received a down ding a while back for making the simple observation that the US GOP has to be included on any short list of threats to world peace.

How can anyone lucid enough to remain a Lizard still be so disconnected from reality?

403 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:31:49pm

re: #397 Dr Lizardo

They’ll need to find a way to resurrect this chap:

[Embedded content]

Whaddaya think - maybe too “ethnic-y” for the wingnuts?

/////

Yeah too ethnic. Maybe they should ask Nigel Lafarge to run.

404 WhatEVs  May 9, 2015 1:32:57pm

re: #375 EPR-radar

Actually, there are few things more important than exposing the malice and insanity at the heart of the GOP base. However, the MSM coverage of these GOP freak shows is too neutral to get the job done.

Neutral, he’ll. it’s all about The Get and ratings. There is no news. There’s infotainment. Be hard on Republicans and there are no Republicans to Get.

405 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 1:34:12pm

re: #403 HappyWarrior

Yeah too ethnic. Maybe they should ask Nigel Lafarge to run.

Lafarge, Pinochet…too French. Where’s Maximiliano Weyler y Nicolau when you need him?

406 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 1:34:47pm
407 Dr Lizardo  May 9, 2015 1:35:19pm

re: #405 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Lafarge, Pinochet…too French. Where’s Maximiliano Weyler y Nicolau when you need him?

IF WE RUN GENERALISSIMO FRANCO, WE’RE GUARANTEED TO GET THE LATINO VOTE!!!

408 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:35:30pm

re: #405 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Lafarge, Pinochet…too French. Where’s Maximiliano Weyler y Nicolau when you need him?

Oh man I hadn’t even thought about the fact that LaFarge with his name is of French decent likely. Makes him being part of an ultra British nationalist party all the more pathetic.

409 Dr Lizardo  May 9, 2015 1:36:17pm

re: #408 HappyWarrior

Oh man I hadn’t even thought about the fact that LaFarge with his name is of French decent likely. Makes him being part of an ultra British nationalist party all the more pathetic.

Even more ironic - his wife is German.

410 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 1:37:19pm

re: #407 Dr Lizardo

IF WE RUN GENERALISSIMO FRANCO, WE’RE GUARANTEED TO GET THE LATINO VOTE!!!

Isn’t he still lying seriously dead at this hour—film at 11?

411 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:37:30pm

re: #409 Dr Lizardo

Even more ironic - his wife is German.

My favorite is still the NRO’s resident bigot Englishman, John Derbyshire is both an immigrant himself and a former illegal immigrant by his own admission. All due respect to the British who I usually quite like, you guys should have kept Derbyshire away from us.

412 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:37:58pm

re: #410 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Isn’t he still lying seriously dead at this hour—film at 11?

Pfft like that stops them from wanting to run Reagan’s corpse too. Reagan-Franco!

413 Justanotherhuman  May 9, 2015 1:39:30pm

re: #392 HappyWarrior

You know what kind of government dependency cons like Carson never talk about, the kind where corporations get all sorts of help from their right wing buddies in government. Yeah Ben, what’s worse? A single mom raising a family needing a hand or an already wealthy corporation getting coddled by the government. This is yet another example of conservative intellectual and moral hypocrisy.

I wonder how much govt money old Ben has garnered over his lifetime?

His own family was on Medicaid when he was a child, but he would deny that to others. And how much has Medicaid and/or Medicare paid him over the years he practiced surgery? Who paid for his medical education? No doubt Ben Carson has received quite a bit from govt coffers over his lifetime, but he doesn’t want to give back, unless it has his name on it.

414 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 1:40:25pm

re: #408 HappyWarrior

Oh man I hadn’t even thought about the fact that LaFarge with his name is of French decent likely. Makes him being part of an ultra British nationalist party all the more pathetic.

There’s always Eugène Terre’Blanche

415 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:40:48pm

re: #413 Justanotherhuman

I wonder how much govt money old Ben has garnered over his lifetime?

His own family was on Medicaid when he was a child, but he would deny that to others. And how much has Medicaid and/or Medicare paid him over the years he practiced surgery? Who paid for his medical education? No doubt Ben Carson has received quite a bit from govt coffers over his lifetime, but he doesn’t want to give back, unless it has his name on it.

He’s your typical right wing hypocrite. He thinks he can get all the government help and benefits he needs for him but the rest of you doing it are all moochers. It’s the same crap mindset that brought you “Government hands off my medicare” and Ayn Rand taking Social Security money while calling charity immoral.

416 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:41:26pm

re: #414 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

There’s always Eugène Terre’Blanche

I don’t know. He has a beard. That beard looks Muslim. //

417 palomino  May 9, 2015 1:42:02pm

re: #265 Dark_Falcon

Jade Helm 15 recently triggered something only slightly less remarkable than it appears: Rick Perry acting like the adult in the room.

Perry to Texas: Stop Being Insane

Perry reminds of Jindal in this instance. A while back Jindal said the gop needed to stop being the “stupid party”, sounding like the sober adult in the room. Of course Jindal then proceeded to say all kinds of stupid far right shit about religion, climate change, evolution, secularism, and anything else left of Teabagistan.

Here Perry momentarily seems like the lone rational Republican, as he dismisses concerns over Jade Helm 15. But when you read his actual quote you realize how full of shit he is too

“But the military is something else. Our military is quite trustworthy. The civilian leadership, you can always question that, but not the men and women in uniform.”

A society that can’t even “question the men and women in uniform” has essentially blinded itself and abdicated responsibility in the name of misguided patriotic deference. Perry is just another mindless tool. Like so many other neo-conservatives, he never really met a war he didn’t like.

418 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:42:56pm

re: #417 palomino

Perry reminds of Jindal in this instance. A while back Jindal said the gop needed to stop being the “stupid party”, sounding like the sober adult in the room. Of course Jindal then proceeded to say all kinds of stupid far right shit about religion, climate change, evolution, secularism, and anything else left of Teabagistan.

Here Perry momentarily seems like the lone rational Republican, as he dismisses concerns over Jade Helm 15. But when you read his actual quote you realize how full of shit he is too

A society that can’t even “question the men and women in uniform” has essentially blinded itself and abdicated responsibility in the name of misguided patriotic deference. Perry is just another mindless tool. Like so many other neo-conservatives, he never really met a war he didn’t like.

Agreed.

419 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 9, 2015 1:43:02pm

re: #416 HappyWarrior

I don’t know. He has a beard. That beard looks Muslim. //

Point out Oom Paul had a beard and maybe they’ll get rid of their Krugerrands.

420 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 9, 2015 1:46:58pm
421 WhatEVs  May 9, 2015 1:47:58pm

re: #411 HappyWarrior

My favorite is still the NRO’s resident bigot Englishman, John Derbyshire is both an immigrant himself and a former illegal immigrant by his own admission. All due respect to the British who I usually quite like, you guys should have kept Derbyshire away from us.

Same for Stuart Varney.

422 palomino  May 9, 2015 1:50:18pm

re: #388 HappyWarrior

Marco really is a shitty leader. He offers nothing about how he would be more effective against terrorism. Just likes to act tough since the GOP base eats that shit for breakfast.

Definitely. The gop has become so tribal they can’t even celebrate the US military killing jihadists because some of the credit attaches to Dems and Obama. The only good killing of a jihadist occurs under a gop administration.

I’ll never forget how little enthusiasm there was on the right when we finally got bin Laden. Republicans just could not bring themselves to congratulate the Prez or feel any joy because it wasn’t THEIR party’s victory. Any happiness they had over bin Laden’s death had to be subordinated for the most childish of partisan reasons. Republicans are super patriotic…when they can take the credit. Otherwise they’re just engaged in a con job.

423 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:55:02pm

re: #422 palomino

Definitely. The gop has become so tribal they can’t even celebrate the US military killing jihadists because some of the credit attaches to Dems and Obama. The only good killing of a jihadist occurs under a gop administration.

I’ll never forget how little enthusiasm there was on the right when we finally got bin Laden. Republicans just could not bring themselves to congratulate the Prez or feel any joy because it wasn’t THEIR party’s victory. Any happiness they had over bin Laden’s death had to be subordinated for the most childish of partisan reasons. Republicans are super patriotic…when they can take the credit. Otherwise they’re just engaged in a con job.

I think it really pisses them off that Obama’s proved their lies for years that Dems are weak on defense and terrorism. OBL was the world’s most wanted man for practically Bush’s entire presidency and he was a FBI’s most wanted for the entire due to the embassy bombing in the Clinton years. They just can’t bring themselves to admit that not only has Obama done a great job combating terrorism but some of them can’t even admit that Obama wants to stop the terrorists so they resort to pathetic crap like claiming he sympathizes with ISIS which is so laughable but then you see how many people in the GOP base actually believe that.

424 BeachDem  May 9, 2015 2:00:05pm

re: #413 Justanotherhuman

I wonder how much govt money old Ben has garnered over his lifetime?

His own family was on Medicaid when he was a child, but he would deny that to others. And how much has Medicaid and/or Medicare paid him over the years he practiced surgery? Who paid for his medical education? No doubt Ben Carson has received quite a bit from govt coffers over his lifetime, but he doesn’t want to give back, unless it has his name on it.

Courtesy of the Vicious Babushka

425 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 2:15:25pm

re: #424 BeachDem

Courtesy of the Vicious Babushka

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He’s someone they would be calling a moocher but because he espouses their bs rhetoric they love him. Not that the other candidates with humble backgrounds are much different though.

426 Swift2991  May 10, 2015 3:18:11am

The more the GOP degenerates into a horrible mess, the crazier their spokespeople become, the harder it is to tell the radical right from the old Stalinists.


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