Department of Defense Paid $5.4 Million to NFL Teams for In-Game “Military Salutes”

Your tax dollars at work!
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This story was broken on Friday by nj.com. Hopefully It can survive the weekend to receive the scrutiny and derision is deserves.

Those salutes to American servicemen and women we all watch on the Jumbotron during halftime of NFL games? Turns out they are paid promotions costing taxpayers millions of dollars.

This does not mean, of course, that all halftime events featuring troops or veterans are paid promotions. However, the fact that many are could undermine such efforts and “leaves a bad taste in your mouth” one lawmaker said.

“Those of us go to sporting events and see them honoring the heroes,” said Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake in an interview with nj.com. “You get a good feeling in your heart. Then to find out they’re doing it because they’re compensated for it, it leaves you underwhelmed. It seems a little unseemly.”

It’s hardly a secret that the NFL is one of the leading recruitment vehicles for the U.S. military. The problem, Flake implies, is that these events are portrayed as genuine moments of gratitude expressed to America’s servicemen, not advertisements.

Yes, this is the same United States Department of Defense that sent some troops to Iraq with insufficient body armor. Post 9/11 veterans continue to have a higher than average unemployment rate, and continue to commit suicide in shocking numbers.

It is a fact that the military needs to recruit, and public funds will always be used for this purpose. Even so, paying tax dollars to the problematic NFL to create on-field events that are, in reality, recruiting appeals in disguise is a disgusting practice. The idea that a penny went into the pocket of a billionaire NFL team owner that could have helped a veteran in need is downright nauseating.

NFL Teams Paid to Thank Troops at Games - scout.com

Which NFL teams got your federal tax dollars? - nj.com

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131 comments

1 KerFuFFler  May 9, 2015 12:13:16pm

Yup, sickening! Especially the way the NFL makes it seem like a heartfelt gesture to build their own cred as a patriotic American institution. Spit.

2 Eigth Immortal  May 9, 2015 12:40:25pm

Perhaps we’ve become a little too accustomed to pro sports’ trough feeding.

3 HappyWarrior  May 9, 2015 1:08:24pm

I have to say. I am not shocked sadly. The tributes while respectful always felt a little forced to me.

4 Skip Intro  May 9, 2015 3:57:05pm

When you have an all volunteer military you have to whatever it takes to keep the recruits signing up.

5 Justanotherhuman  May 10, 2015 7:05:56am

No different than NASCAR car sponsorship and fly-overs at their races.

6 Great White Snark  May 10, 2015 7:12:13am

re: #5 Justanotherhuman

No different than NASCAR car sponsorship and fly-overs at their races.

All part of the recruiting budget no doubt. NFL bad, NASCAR bad but say tennis and baseball okay?

7 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 7:27:13am

re: #5 Justanotherhuman

No different than NASCAR car sponsorship and fly-overs at their races.

Actually, its a bit different. If the Army sponsors a car for a NASCAR race, its openly doing a sponsorship: Everyone knows it as what it is. Paying for a ‘Salute to the Troops” while allowing the public to think its a charitable gesture on the part of a sports team is misrepresentation, both on the part of the DoD and the team.

As for flyovers, I see them a bit differently: Anyone who knows about how military aviation works knows the government is paying significant costs for such a flyover in terms of maintenance, as F-16s and F/A-18 are quite complex aircraft. but the Air Force, Navy and occasionally the Marine Corps get a military return on investment in such a flyover as after its done the fighters typically go to a more remote area (or over water if near the coast or the Great Lakes) to practice their flying skills. Thus such flyovers do contribute to keeping the pilots who perform them qualified.

8 Justanotherhuman  May 10, 2015 7:27:14am

re: #6 Great White Snark

Nope. These pro sports pay for themselves, and quite handsomely.

9 ObserverArt  May 10, 2015 7:33:09am

re: #5 Justanotherhuman

No different than NASCAR car sponsorship and fly-overs at their races.

The National Guard used to put out a big chunk of money to sponsor an Indycar team, and when the sponsorship was fought over by two teams it lead to a big exposure of the actual behind the scene workings and speculation of dollar amounts. That made the National Guard reconsider and they dropped it all.

Overall, the money spent on Auto Racing makes the NFL look like a good buy. And I say that as a fan of auto racing. But I am also realistic. As a former fan of the nearly ruined Indycar side of the sport, that was a ridiculous amount of money to spend on Indycar. It doesn’t even have the following the sport had before ego got in the way back in 1995, split the sport and just about killed it off for good.

Here some info/links on all that crap.

From a February 2014 article.

Road & Track - Inside the fight for a $17M IndyCar sponsorship

Top-level racing sponsorship negotiations are rarely made public, but due to efforts by one IndyCar team to keep another from obtaining funding from its former sponsor, race fans have been given a rare opportunity to peek behind the curtain.

At the center of it all is two-time IRL champion Panther Racing, which received Army National Guard (ANG) funding from 2008-2013. After soliciting bids for a new contract, Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing (RLLR) was awarded ANG sponsorship in October, but an immediate protest by Panther put the confirmation on hold while the Government Accountability Office (GAO) reviewed the protest.

Panther’s protest ultimately proved unsuccessful, and a formal denial was issued in January, solidifying RLLR’s winning proposal. Other than a simply worded finding on January 17, the GAO kept the details of its decision private—until Monday night.

The 9-page brief includes some staggering facts. (see brief at link)
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From an August 2014 article.

Las Vegas Review-Journal - National Guard ending sponsorship for NASCAR, IndyCar

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — The National Guard is ending its sponsorship of both NASCAR’s most popular driver and one of the most recognizable names in IndyCar.

It’s not clear when the guard is leaving motorsports. It said in a Wednesday statement on its web site that its contracts to sponsor Dale Earnhardt Jr. in NASCAR and Graham Rahal in IndyCar run through the end of the year. Typically, government contracts are reviewed annually.

But, Hendrick Motorsports said in a statement it has a contract with the guard through 2015.

“We have not been approached by the guard about potential changes and plan to honor our current agreement,” the team said.

Bobby Rahal, co-owner of Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing, said he learned of the guard’s decision on Wednesday. He called it disappointing news “given the significant incremental brand exposure we have worked to produce for the National Guard in our first season together, including various off-track marketing and advertising programs focused on supporting the mission set forth.”

The guard said it spent $32 million on its NASCAR sponsorship and $12 million on its IndyCar sponsorship this year, and noted that “sports sponsorships have played an important role in helping the guard build strong brand awareness.” But, the guard statement said its sponsorship contracts in NASCAR and IndyCar “are set to expire at the end of the current season,” which contradicts the Hendrick claim.

“Significantly constrained resources and the likelihood of further reductions in the future call for more innovative and cost-effective ways of doing business,” Maj. Gen. Judd H. Lyons, acting director of the Army National Guard, said in the statement.

Military funding has come under increased scrutiny in Congress. Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri has called the sponsorship “wasting a bunch of money on a very expensive sports sponsorship.”

A spokesman for McCaskill noted Thursday the guard had followed the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard in all ending motor sports sponsorships.

“Claire is a NASCAR fan, and loves the National Guard — but spending tens of millions of taxpayer dollars on a recruitment program that signed up zero recruits, and that has been abandoned by the other service branches as ineffective, just makes no sense,” said spokesman John LaBombard.

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10 HappyWarrior  May 10, 2015 7:33:28am

Yvan eht Nioj!!!

11 Justanotherhuman  May 10, 2015 7:41:25am

re: #9 ObserverArt

I’m not surprised Hendricks is getting govt money. He owns a few dealerships in Charlotte, also, specializing in high end autos, and engages in franchising some of them out.

hendrickauto.com

You can see how big his auto empire is, by clicking on “locations”.

12 Lord Of The Pies  May 10, 2015 7:49:06am

HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY!

My daughter in Israel has phoned.
My son sent a Happy Mother’s Day Tweet.

My other 7 kids have not checked in yet.

13 Great White Snark  May 10, 2015 7:50:59am

By some coincidence, CBS Sunday Morning just did a feature on a NASCAR family, the Kennedy family. Lesa Kennedy is a top official for a corporation that runs a bunch of the major tracks. Hearing where she wants to take the sport is very encouraging. Invested $400 million at Daytona to modernize the place. Encouraging more minority/womens participation.

14 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 10, 2015 7:51:12am

The NFL totally embodies all those traits I want to associate with our military: steroid abuse, misogyny and long-term traumatic injuries.

15 calochortus  May 10, 2015 8:13:43am

re: #12 The Pie Mother

HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY!

My daughter in Israel has phoned.
My son sent a Happy Mother’s Day Tweet.

My other 7 kids have not checked in yet.

And a Happy Mothers’ Day to you-and all the other mothers and mother-like people here.
I think we’ll celebrate next weekend. Schedules, you know. And I’ll still be their mother next week.

16 ObserverArt  May 10, 2015 8:20:04am

re: #13 Great White Snark

By some coincidence, CBS Sunday Morning just did a feature on a NASCAR family, the Kennedy family. Lesa Kennedy is a top official for a corporation that runs a bunch of the major tracks. Hearing where she wants to take the sport is very encouraging. Invested $400 million at Daytona to modernize the place. Encouraging more minority/womens participation.

Lesa Kennedy is from the France family. Lesa France Kennedy, (born Lesa Dawn France). She is one of the daughters of Bill France Jr, the founders son and the long time leader of the sport. They started and control the sport. And that is done with a very heavy hand. The corporation you speak of (International Speedway Corporation) is majority held by the France family (35%). Almost all officials at ISC are France family members.

What else do the Frances own? NASCAR - the sport’s sanctioning body. So, they own the sport and more or less own the tracks the sport races on.

Check out the anti-trust lawsuits they’ve had to settle.

In a way it is like Major League Baseball owning half the parks they play in.

They have been talking minority participation for years. I know…I saw some of the checks for a minority driver (all the details you will get from me…protecting the guilty!) They get nowhere with it when all is said and done.

Take Danica Patrick for example. Supposedly the greatest female driver ever (doubtful…just cute, media manipulation and GoDaddy driven to popularity) Her contract is up this year. It is doubtful she gets rehired by her current team. Reason. No wins, little results…and the buzz is dying. Will someone else hire her to drive? Smaller teams need results to make money.

The question I have is do they really want minorities or the interest in saying they do. Was Danica hired because she is good, or was it market driven because they could feed off the popularity. And, as hinted earlier, she may not be the best female driver out there.

The minority driver (African American) I believe is out of the sport. The sport remains a tough place for minorities due to many reasons…a bunch I am sure everyone here at LGF can figure out.

17 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 8:28:06am

re: #16 ObserverArt

Stock Car Racing was founded in the South, by drivers and mechanics who cut their teeth building cars that could outrun the cops for bootlegging purposes. (Some Southern and Great Plains states retained Prohibition laws long after national Prohibition was rescinded by the 21st Amendment in 1933. The 21st, it should be remembered, specifically allowed for such state and local laws because Federalism.) So the sport has always has a ‘southern accent’. Unfortunately, that also means many of its participants, both drivers, techs and crews, and many of the fans, don’t like black people very much and some of them would find the idea of a black driver would bear all white drivers even once a year intolerable.

18 GlutenFreeJesus  May 10, 2015 8:51:09am

Can the NFL be stripped of their non-profit status now?

19 Great White Snark  May 10, 2015 8:51:23am

re: #16 ObserverArt

What breaks a minority into a sport big time famous? Winners and champions. Rarely, a big name. So far nobody fitting that description has emerged. Danica is just not a winning/champion driver. This guy at least has a national win.

I think that’s the reality. So many drivers come and go without notice simply because they don’t win. Willy Ribbs fits that description as does Danica. Willy retired after being in a crash that killed an official. Can’t blame him for losing heart. Drivers like to think they risk their own lives not others.

Remember Shirley Muldowney?
Dark points out NASCAR is originally based on criminal activities. Bootlegging. Then on being able to flee the police. Struck a chord in southern culture obviously and reflects the south in too many ways. But then In 2015, so what? NASCAR has an international audience. A national track and event presence. A far more diversified audience than in the past, (ever been to a race in California?!)

These things don’t happen as fast or as early as we wish. But lets not forget the resistance NASCAR faces outside the south. I wish I could count the times we have seen what amounts to anti southern attitudes based on certain politicians, slavery, and some “we know better” arrogance.

Say you are a female or African American driver of profound competitive skills. A winner in waiting. So, who will welcome you first? Formula 1? Indy car? Or maybe dirt track racing and on up?

Is pro auto racing even very popular among women or minorities? If not how many up and comers can we even fairly expect to show up? Admiration is a great recruiter, expressed contempt as anti southern or anti NASCAR sentiment would then be a significant drag on that, no?

The new Danica? Ex-IndyCar driver joining Nationwide Series
foxsports.com

When she won the Rolex Series Grand Prix of Miami, she became the first woman in history to win a major international race in the United States.
In 2007, Duno became the first Hispanic female driver in the now 103-year history of the Indianapolis 500 to qualify for and compete in the world-famous race. Duno competed in the Indianapolis 500 three consecutive seasons and in the IndyCar Series for four consecutive seasons, running partial schedules in 2007, 2008, and 2009, and a full schedule in 2010.

20 ObserverArt  May 10, 2015 8:52:08am

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

Stock Car Racing was founded in the South, by drivers and mechanics who cut their teeth building cars that could outrun the cops for bootlegging purposes. (Some Southern and Great Plains states retained Prohibition laws long after national Prohibition was rescinded by the 21st Amendment in 1933. The 21st, it should be remembered, specifically allowed for such state and local laws because Federalism.) So the sport has always has a ‘southern accent’. Unfortunately, that also means many of its participants, both drivers, techs and crews, and many of the fans, don’t like black people very much and some of them would find the idea of a black driver would bear all white drivers even once a year intolerable.

For some time (early 2000s -remember “W” Bush showing up at Daytona) NASCAR thought they were becoming bigger than some of the big three-four sports (NFL, MLB, NBS, NHL) and spent like drunken sailors to increase many of the tracks, build a hall-of-fame, etc., etc.

Now they are back tracking. Some of the improvements at Daytona they crow about, like removing grandstands and reconfiguring others to make more space (less seats) for the seat holder are being driven by a new reality. They are also adding more attractions outside of the race itself to keep fans coming.

I love auto racing. Truthfully, it may have reached its peak around 2000 and it is going down, maybe away. I think it was a technological thing for the first half of the 20th century and then a boomer driven sport as boomers also were a huge part of the car culture. Cars (especially fast and sporty) are not the same focus they were due to many political, social and economic reasons. Younger generations do not seem to be into racing. Things change.

21 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 8:53:07am

Overtaken by events, sorry.

P.S. I mispelled ‘president’ accidentally.

22 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 8:54:29am

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

The poresident would quash any such move. He’d never be able to come back to Chicago if he did not.

Maybe you missed this: NFL Voluntarily Ends Tax-Exempt Status

23 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 8:57:18am

re: #22 makeitstop

Maybe you missed this: NFL Voluntarily Ends Tax-Exempt Status

So noted.

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

Overtaken by events, sorry.

P.S. I misspelled ‘president’ accidentally.

24 Belafon  May 10, 2015 9:03:56am

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

Overtaken by events, sorry.

P.S. I mispelled ‘president’ accidentally.

And you misspelled misspelled.

25 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 9:08:43am

re: #24 Belafon
re: #21 Dark_Falcon

Overtaken by events, sorry.

P.S. I mispelled ‘president’ accidentally.

And you misspelled misspelled.

That’s getting too meta for me….

RBS

26 ObserverArt  May 10, 2015 9:09:35am

re: #19 Great White Snark

Well Lewis Hamilton (Black British Driver) has done very well in F1 and might be one of the best drivers ever. He will go down in history for sure. He has already won two drivers championships, set many a record and is young enough to become the greatest British Grand Prix driver ever. That says a lot. You know what else says a lot? Many fans of the sport still give the guy no due.

Milka Dunno is a prime example of NASCAR going for news instead of reality. She is not a very good driver. She was more or less run out of Indycar because she was a hindrance on track…too slow and dangerous. She is a find for a small team. She can bring much Argentinian oil money. That can somehow gloss over talent.

There are good women drivers, I hate to say it, but I wonder if NASCAR is too concerned about looks instead of craft. Another former Indycar driver, Swiss driver Simona de Silvestro has the chops. She has done well in some lesser teams. She tried to get into F1, but that hasn’t worked out. Maybe she tries NASCAR, but I don’t think she likes it. There are many real good European women drivers (Susie Wolff is one) but they are into WEC Sportscar, F1 and European Touring Car…not NASCAR.

No dig at you Great White Snark, but I personally never buy into anything NASCAR says. Their hype knows no bounds. They have too much too protect that might be slipping away from them.

Later folks, time to get busy on Ye Olde House. Lurking mode…

27 b_sharp  May 10, 2015 9:13:02am

re: #26 ObserverArt

Well Lewis Hamilton (Black British Driver) has done very well in F1 and might be one of the best drivers ever. He will go down in history for sure. He has already won two drivers championships, set many a record and is young enough to become the greatest British Grand Prix driver ever. That says a lot. You know what else says a lot? Many fans of the sport still give the guy no due.

Milka Dunno is a prime example of NASCAR going for news instead of reality. She is not a very good driver. She was more or less run out of Indycar because she was a hindrance on track…too slow and dangerous. She is a find for a small team. She can bring much Argentinian oil money. That can somehow gloss over talent.

There are good women drivers, I hate to say it, but I wonder if NASCAR is too concerned about looks instead of craft. Another former Indycar driver, Swiss driver Simona de Silvestro has the chops. She has done well in some lesser teams. She tried to get into F1, but that hasn’t worked out. Maybe she tries NASCAR, but I don’t think she likes it. There are many real good European women drivers (Susie Wolff is one) but they are into WEC Sportscar, F1 and European Touring Car…not NASCAR.

No dig at you Great White Snark, but I personally never buy into anything NASCAR says. Their hype knows no bounds. They have too much too protect that might be slipping away from them.

Later folks, time to get busy on Ye Olde House. Lurking mode…

Simona de Silvestro is back racing in Indy.

28 b_sharp  May 10, 2015 9:14:46am

re: #26 ObserverArt

Dude, answer your emails.

29 ObserverArt  May 10, 2015 9:21:03am

re: #28 b_sharp

Dude, answer your emails.

Dude…I don’t have an answer! Sorry.

I guess US Banks need to do banking with the very same horses and dog sleds Canada uses for the mail. It is all ‘in process’ as I have been told and could take a week.

And Simona is not full time. She has to bring money and find/buy rides as she can. There is much wrong in racing in America.

30 b.d.  May 10, 2015 9:22:40am

Aren’t there rules somewhere stating that ads need to be disclosed as ads?

31 b.d.  May 10, 2015 9:24:06am

Makes you wonder how much the pink ribbon breast cancer awareness people are having to fork over to the NFL?

32 BigPapa  May 10, 2015 9:24:55am

Because freedom.

33 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2015 9:41:37am
34 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 10, 2015 9:44:42am

re: #18 GlutenFreeJesus

Can the NFL be stripped of their non-profit status now?

I believe they are surrendering it voluntarily.

35 bratwurst  May 10, 2015 9:54:06am

Thanks for the promotion!

I want to make clear: I have absolutely no problem with the military spending money on recruiting.

My issue is NFL clubs which almost always receive enormous sums of public funds (or sweetheart deals on public facilities) taking even MORE money to “salute” veterans. If they themselves give vets tickets, go ahead and show them on the board or bring them on the field…even better GIVE THESE GUYS JOBS. This $5.4 million on a per club basis is not a huge amount money, it is is principle involved that sickens me.

36 BigPapa  May 10, 2015 9:54:28am

An industry that has young men battle for sport is marketing for an industry that has young men battle for industry. What’s not to like?

37 Unabogie  May 10, 2015 9:57:20am

Morning adventures.

As I was out walking my dog, I passed my neighbor who also has a dog. Our dogs don’t get along, so I was going through the “classical conditioning” routine and it worked great. Neither dog snarled. So I said “that went better than usual.”

The problem is that my neighbor is a right wing nut, so he replied “are you still enamored with that Jew hating, communist, dictator Obama”?

Me: “Are you alright?”
Him: “Alright?”
Me: “Yes, because we haven’t spoken for years and this is the first thing out of your mouth? That’s really weird. So are you alright?”
Him: “I just can’t figure out why people are still enamored with that Jew hating, communist, dictator”
Me: “You know, I’m Jewish. And that’s really offensive. What’s wrong with you? I’m worried about you”
Him: “A lot of Americans are worried about that Obama”
Me: “Then that’s odd because we keep winning elections”

True story.

38 Charles Johnson  May 10, 2015 9:58:17am

This Jade Helm crackpot is still raving at me, even after blocking me. And of course the freaks from the stalker blog were attracted to him like flies to feces.

39 Iwouldprefernotto  May 10, 2015 10:01:12am

re: #37 Unabogie

Morning adventures.

As I was out walking my dog, I passed my neighbor who also has a dog. Our dogs don’t get along, so I was going through the “classical conditioning” routine and it worked great. Neither dog snarled. So I said “that went better than usual.”

The problem is that my neighbor is a right wing nut, so he replied “are you still enamored with that Jew hating, communist, dictator Obama”?

Me: “Are you alright?”
Him: “Alright?”
Me: “Yes, because we haven’t spoken for years and this is the first thing out of your mouth? That’s really weird. So are you alright?”
Him: “I just can’t figure out why people are still enamored with that Jew hating, communist, dictator”
Me: “You know, I’m Jewish. And that’s really offensive. What’s wrong with you? I’m worried about you”
Him: “A lot of Americans are worried about that Obama”
Me: “Then that’s odd because we keep winning elections”

True story.

neighbor forgot to mention that Obama also loves gays and immigrants.

40 Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2015 10:02:16am

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yes, indeed……always dream big.

41 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 10, 2015 10:04:07am

re: #39 Iwouldprefernotto

neighbor forgot to mention that Obama also loves gays and immigrants.

And that he is a Kenyan-born usurper.

42 bratwurst  May 10, 2015 10:04:10am

re: #37 Unabogie

The problem is that my neighbor is a right wing nut, so he replied “are you still enamored with that Jew hating, communist, dictator Obama”?

As we all know, guys like this didn’t give a flying fuck about Jews before a black man with Hussein as a middle name became president…and will resume distrusting and disliking Jews soon after he is gone.

43 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 10, 2015 10:04:25am

You want to play the guitar? Buy a guitar and practice. You want to get paid to play the guitar? Good luck with that.

You want to race? You can buy a track ready Spec Miata racecar for around $12K and go racing. You want to get paid to drive? Well…

The entry barrier to auto racing is prohibitively high. Various sanctioning bodies have attempted to create entry-level classes with the same results: they become expensive over time as people find ways to get to the absolute limit of the rules.

Me? I compete in SCCA Solo II events (Autocross). Even that has required a few thousand dollars’ worth of refinements to the car. The good news is that I can drive my “racer” to the event, compete and then drive home. No, I’ve never posted a Best Time of Day. Yes, I have posted the worst.

44 Charles Johnson  May 10, 2015 10:04:30am
45 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 10:04:51am

re: #35 bratwurst

Thanks for the promotion!

I want to make clear: I have absolutely no problem with the military spending money on recruiting.

My issue is NFL clubs which almost always receive enormous sums of public funds (or sweetheart deals on public facilities) taking even MORE money to “salute” veterans. If they themselves give vets tickets, go ahead and show them on the board or bring them on the field…even better GIVE THESE GUYS JOBS. This $5.4 million on a per club basis is not a huge amount money, it is is principle involved that sickens me.

Especially as the military has already given so much to the NFL in recent years, most of it medical knowledge bought with blood. All the recent focus on brain injury in sports is the product of the military’s experiences principally in Iraq but also in Afghanistan. And that’s not all, as military work on joint reconstruction has allowed football players to return from injuries that would once have been career enders. If anything, the NFL should be paying the Armed Forces.

46 Unabogie  May 10, 2015 10:05:13am

re: #39 Iwouldprefernotto

I think he would have but I didn’t let him warm up. I’m still trying to understand how demented from Fox News watching a person has to be to only relate to people on the street through things learned in the Two Minutes Hate.

I know the guy is a wingnut, but I can still be civil and talk about our puppies. Him? It’s all about the Obama hate, 24/7.

47 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 10, 2015 10:06:00am

re: #42 bratwurst

As we all know, guys like this didn’t give a flying fuck about Jews before a black man with Hussein as a middle name became president…and will resume distrusting and disliking Jews soon after he is gone.

They dislike and distrust Jews, but they need an intact Israel so that their End TImes Prophecies can be fulfilled and pave the way for Jesus to come again and rapture up the Faithful.

48 PhillyPretzel  May 10, 2015 10:07:11am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Writing in the 3rd person is the only rule that got stuck in his brain.

49 Unabogie  May 10, 2015 10:07:44am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They dislike and distrust Jews, but they need an intact Israel so that their End TImes Prophecies can be fulfilled and pave the way for Jesus to come again and rapture up the Faithful.

I don’t think he’s even thought it out that far. I think it’s more like a stream of consciousness slew of invective.

Jew hating.
Communist.
Dictator.
Muslim.
Usurper.
IRS.
Benghazi.
Jade Helm.

It’s all just another way to say “hate”.

50 BigPapa  May 10, 2015 10:08:34am

Does Ginger really make a living at this shit? I guess he gets a few bucks, but there has to be some other income for him.

51 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 10, 2015 10:08:56am

re: #46 Unabogie

I think he would have but I didn’t let him warm up. I’m still trying to understand how demented from Fox News watching a person has to be to only relate to people on the street through things learned in the Two Minutes Hate.

I know the guy is a wingnut, but I can still be civil and talk about our puppies. Him? It’s all about the Obama hate, 24/7.

I defriend people who repeatedly post political rants on FB.

There are plenty of places to vent your political spleen, but FB (and casual chats with dog-walking neighbors) are not the place for it in my view.

52 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 10:11:15am

re: #49 Unabogie

I don’t think he’s even thought it out that far. I think it’s more like a stream of consciousness slew of invective.

Jew hating.
Communist.
Dictator.
Muslim.
Usurper.
IRS.
Benghazi.
Jade Helm.

It’s all just another way to say “hate”.

No, some of it is a way to avoid saying the n-word. Actually saying that word on Twitter can get you in trouble, so many haters look for other hateful words to aim at Barack Obama.

53 Unabogie  May 10, 2015 10:13:13am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I defriend people who repeatedly post political rants on FB.

There are plenty of places to vent your political spleen, but FB (and casual chats with dog-walking neighbors) are not the place for it in my view.

I admit that I talk politics on Facebook. But the people I have as Facebook friends are usually in agreement with me on the broad strokes. So we can disagree in a friendly way.

But I’m in total agreement. Accosting people on the street with your political rants is something they do in the worst sorts of despotic nations. ISIS comes to mind.

54 Lidane  May 10, 2015 10:14:57am

I always assumed the tributes were paid for or that arrangements were made with the DoD. Getting active duty military to perform and participate, ESPECIALLY the flyovers, would take advanced planning.

Of course, I assumed that it was the teams compensating the military for their time, not the other way around.

55 BigPapa  May 10, 2015 10:15:48am
56 Unabogie  May 10, 2015 10:20:41am

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

No, some of it is a way to avoid saying the n-word. Actually saying that word on Twitter can get you in trouble, so many haters look for other hateful words to aim at Barack Obama.

I disagree. I think in the minds of most wingnuts, all of the Obama “crimes” are real and are impeachable or maybe even treasonous. They think “Fast and Furious”, “Solyndra”, and “IRS” are serious scandals and no one is going to tell them different. What’s really so weird about it is that they don’t even know how to speak to someone not already in the club. What could he have hoped to convey to me? Did he think he’d win me over with that opening? What happened to his ability to express himself in actual language and win over converts using logic and reason?

I meant it when I asked him if he was alright. I think he’s experiencing dementia.

57 allegro  May 10, 2015 10:30:20am

re: #56 Unabogie

I disagree. I think in the minds of most wingnuts, all of the Obama “crimes” are real and are impeachable or maybe even treasonous. They think “Fast and Furious”, “Solyndra”, and “IRS” are serious scandals and no one is going to tell them different. What’s really so weird about it is that they don’t even know how to speak to someone not already in the club. What could he have hoped to convey to me? Did he think he’d win me over with that opening? What happened to his ability to express himself in actual language and win over converts using logic and reason?

I meant it when I asked him if he was alright. I think he’s experiencing dementia.

I honestly believe that a steady diet of Fox news does that to people. I think we’ve all seen it in family, friends, neighbors. Formerly reasonable people become rabid assholes who are unable to communicate any longer. It’s a sad, sad thing.

58 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 10:30:53am

re: #56 Unabogie

I disagree. I think in the minds of most wingnuts, all of the Obama “crimes” are real and are impeachable or maybe even treasonous. They think “Fast and Furious”, “Solyndra”, and “IRS” are serious scandals and no one is going to tell them different. What’s really so weird about it is that they don’t even know how to speak to someone not already in the club. What could he have hoped to convey to me? Did he think he’d win me over with that opening? What happened to his ability to express himself in actual language and win over converts using logic and reason?

I meant it when I asked him if he was alright. I think he’s experiencing dementia.

‘Fast and Furious’ was a real scandal, just not one involving the Attorney General or the President.

BBL

59 Unabogie  May 10, 2015 10:35:24am

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

‘Fast and Furious’ was a real scandal, just not one involving the Attorney General or the President.

BBL

Not really. It was an attempt at stopping straw purchasers. I want them to stop straw purchasers. I want the ability to buy guns to be curtailed in general, but especially for people who use their rights to supply criminals with tools of death. I don’t see it as scandalous at all, any more than a traffic stop that results in the death of the officer is a “scandal”.

60 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 10:42:33am

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

‘Fast and Furious’ was a real scandal, just not one involving the Attorney General or the President.

BBL

It really wasn’t, it was pretty much totally manufactured. The entire point was that the guns sales were legal under current law and the only way to prove they were straw purchases was to track them. No sales were allowed that otherwise would have been prevented by the rules in place. You even admitted here you didn’t want the ATF to do anything about straw purchases before reversing yourself under pressure, so it’s kind of bullshit for you to still pretend it was a legit scandal.

61 Charles Johnson  May 10, 2015 10:44:18am

After spending time with him, his family is probably thinking the same thing; he viciously attacked them on Twitter yesterday.

62 allegro  May 10, 2015 10:45:38am

re: #61 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

After spending time with him, his family is probably thinking the same thing; he viciously attacked them on Twitter yesterday.

Defooing?

63 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 10:46:01am
64 Mattand  May 10, 2015 10:46:07am

re: #37 Unabogie

I have acquaintances and neighbors who are unapologetic right wing ditto heads. Guy up the street flies a Gasden flag, which at this point I regard the same way I do a Confederate flag: a warning signal for possible crazy.

I profoundly disagree with these people on matters of politics as much a person can.

Still, I cannot imagine walking my dog and just launching into such a hateful fusilade like that. There is something profoundly, Diary of Daedalus-level wrong with your neighbor.

65 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 10:46:47am

re: #62 allegro

Defooing?

Breaking ties with your ‘family of origin’ (FOO).

66 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 10:46:53am

re: #62 allegro

Defooing?

FOO = Family Of Origin.

Defooing = cutting all ties with same.

67 allegro  May 10, 2015 10:48:03am

re: #65 makeitstop

Breaking ties with your ‘family of origin’ (FOO).

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

FOO = Family Of Origin.

Defooing = cutting all ties with same.

Thanks!

68 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 10:48:46am

re: #61 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

After spending time with him, his family is probably thinking the same thing; he viciously attacked them on Twitter yesterday.

He was pretty vocal and entirely negative about seeing them. I wonder if they tried to stage an intervention or something.

69 Unabogie  May 10, 2015 10:51:25am

re: #64 Mattand

I have acquaintances and neighbors who are unapologetic right wing ditto heads. Guy up the street flies a Gasden flag, which at this point I regard the same way I do a Confederate flag: a warning signal for possible crazy.

I profoundly disagree with these people on matters of politics as much a person can.

Still, I cannot imagine walking my dog and just launching into such a hateful fusilade like that. There is something profoundly, Diary of Daedalus-level wrong with your neighbor.

I think my approach to him is probably the best one to take. I’m not going to appeal to his sense of reason. So instead I ask him if he’s going through some sort of emotional or cognitive crisis. It has the benefit of being mostly true, in that I do believe he’s in early dementia, and it also grants no legitimacy to his rants. I just treat them like the crazed ramblings they are.

70 Mattand  May 10, 2015 10:51:32am

I have a feeling that Rage Koala is probably about eight steps behind his family in that department. They’ve probably got those plans in motion already to defoo him.

With his previous of tales of “My grandma had my 5-year-old self listen to Limbaugh with her,” I was under the impression that the family probably swung the same way politically.

I’m wondering if they’re becoming collateral damage in his one-man “I’m the most hated person on the Interwebs” shit show, if they haven’t already. All it’s going to take is one mouth breather from 4chan or reddit to dox his family to get at him.

71 Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2015 10:53:37am

re: #61 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

After spending time with him, his family is probably thinking the same thing; he viciously attacked them on Twitter yesterday.

“Defooing”? What’s that?

ETA: Never mind.

72 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 10:54:20am

re: #67 allegro

Thanks!

I had to look it up earlier, it’s a fucking retarded term. I get that drifting apart kind of just happens naturally when families aren’t close, but there’s something kind of pathological about doing it so actively that one actually comes up with a name for it. I can only really see that happening when real abuse has occurred. The only crime Chuck’s family seems to have committed is still loving and accepting him in spite of the horrible person he’s become. That apparently hurts so much he’s thinking about rejecting them.

73 allegro  May 10, 2015 10:54:54am

re: #71 Dr Lizardo

“Defooing”? What’s that?

Yay! It wasn’t just me! LOL

74 Mattand  May 10, 2015 10:55:41am

re: #71 Dr Lizardo

“Defooing”? What’s that?

urbandictionary.com

“foo” in this case is “Family of Origin” as others have posted above.

Join the club; this is the first time I’ve heard that one as well. Thank Chtullu for Urban Dictionary. Keeps us old farts hep to those crazy kids’ lingo.

75 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 10:56:42am

re: #70 Mattand

I have a feeling that Rage Koala is probably about eight steps behind his family in that department. They’ve probably got those plans in motion already to defoo him.

Not that this should be surprising, but with his previous of tales of “My grandma had my 5-year-old self listen to Limbaugh with her,” I was under the impression that the family probably swung the same way politically.

I’m wondering if they’re becoming collateral damage in his one-man “I’m the most hated person on the Interwebs” shit show, if they haven’t already. All it’s going to take is one mouth breather from 4chan or reddit to dox his family to get at him.

Somebody apparently posted a pic of his teenage sister on Twitter recently.

76 allegro  May 10, 2015 10:57:21am

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

I had to look it up earlier, it’s a fucking retarded term. I get that drifting apart kind of just happens naturally when families aren’t close, but there’s something kind of pathological about doing it so actively that one actually comes up with a name for it. I can only really see that happening when real abuse has occurred. The only crime Chuck’s family seems to have committed is still loving and accepting him in spite of the horrible person he’s become. That apparently hurts so much he’s thinking about rejecting them.

Not just actively but publicly. Asshole thing to do but then we are talking Chuck.

77 Charles Johnson  May 10, 2015 10:57:56am

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

I had to look it up earlier, it’s a fucking retarded term. I get that drifting apart kind of just happens naturally when families aren’t close, but there’s something kind of pathological about doing it so actively that one actually comes up with a name for it. I can only really see that happening when real abuse has occurred. The only crime Chuck’s family seems to have committed is still loving and accepting him in spite of the horrible person he’s become. That apparently hurts so much he’s thinking about rejecting them.

He’s a snake.

78 Mattand  May 10, 2015 10:58:52am

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

Somebody apparently posted a pic of his teenage sister on Twitter recently.

Ugh. Shit like this puts me on the “The Internet is a bad thing for humanity” camp. Just so many ways to hurt people without a single chance of the aggressor being caught and punished.

79 Varek Raith  May 10, 2015 11:01:32am

re: #73 allegro

Yay! It wasn’t just me! LOL

Had to look that one up as well.

80 Unabogie  May 10, 2015 11:02:17am

re: #78 Mattand

Agreed. His sister isn’t responsible for what a sick fuck her brother is. Having him for a brother is punishment enough no matter what she may have done in her life.

81 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 11:02:31am

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

He was pretty vocal and entirely negative about seeing them. I wonder if they tried to stage an intervention or something.

Quite possible that someone in his family looked at GoatNews and was horrified, and told him to stop being an asshole on the internet.

Chuck’s trouble is that besides being an asshole on the internet, he’s got nothing. So of course he’ll spit that bit.

He really must be such an embarrassment, if his family is even remotely sane.

82 Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2015 11:10:36am

I bet Chuck is on Urban Dictionary all day long scouring for acronyms he can tweet to make himself seem cool.

83 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 11:12:24am

re: #77 Charles Johnson

He’s a snake.

What’s weird is that he’s so openly oppositional / defiant that he had to take his familial angst public. I’d call it a feud but feuds have two belligerents, he just trashed them publicly with no provocation. He’s apparently so manipulative and abusive that if he can’t have a relationship on his own terms he’s got to stab it in the back, burn it and salt the earth.

84 BeachDem  May 10, 2015 11:14:57am

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

He was pretty vocal and entirely negative about seeing them. I wonder if they tried to stage an intervention or something.

My take? He probably tried to hit them all up for money to advance his brilliant career. When they turned him down and suggested that he get an actual job, he told them how important his “work” was, and suggested that if they couldn’t see it, they were obviously not intelligent enough to exist within his super presence.

Wonder why he didn’t take hotasianwife on his sojourn to the east coast? Oh wait, she has an actual job!

85 Justanotherhuman  May 10, 2015 11:16:03am

Don’t know if anyone noticed, but he’s up to his old tricks again, too.

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson * 10h 10 hours ago
Find her name, I will pay. RT SURPRISE! U. Minnesota Student Who Claimed Dorm Rape At Knifepoint Is Lying, Cops Say dailycaller.com

86 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 11:16:41am

re: #70 Mattand

With his previous of tales of “My grandma had my 5-year-old self listen to Limbaugh with her,” I was under the impression that the family probably swung the same way politically.

He also previously asserted that his siblings were Republicans like him.

But there was no hint of that during the recent reunion. It was all hate for his “liberal” family.

87 Justanotherhuman  May 10, 2015 11:17:42am

Sad to hear; he’s done so much good.

Former President Jimmy Carter cuts trip to Guyana short amid health concerns - @cbs46
read more on cbs46.com

Statement from the Carter Center on former President Jimmy Carter: ‘President Carter was not feeling well and has departed Guyana to return to Atlanta today. The Carter Center election observation mission in Guyana is continuing its work and will keep him informed of developments. President Carter is hopeful about Guyana’s election and expressed his commitment and that of The Carter Center to supporting Guyana in the days ahead, stressing the need for a peaceful process before, during, and after the election’

88 Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2015 11:18:19am

He really is the worst kind of attention whore. He doesn’t care who he hurts, what he damages, who he pisses off or what rules he breaks so long as eyes are on him.

89 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 10, 2015 11:28:22am

He should defenestrate.

90 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 10, 2015 11:39:16am

re: #89 Higgs Boson’s Mate

He should defenestrate.

defecenstrate: to poo out the window

91 Great White Snark  May 10, 2015 11:39:32am

For our photography people, a new Page.
A celebration of an old reliable film and what looks like a clever crossover device for focusing. Crossed over from “follow focus” rings to us still shooters.

92 Jenner7  May 10, 2015 11:45:46am

re: #87 Justanotherhuman

My Mom has always said he was a lousy President because he was honest. I hope he recovers. He is a good man.

93 stpaulbear  May 10, 2015 11:48:39am

re: #92 Jenner7

My Mom has always said he was a lousy President because he was honest. I hope he recovers. He is a good man.

I’ll agree with your mom.

94 Charles Johnson  May 10, 2015 11:51:03am

re: #85 Justanotherhuman

Don’t know if anyone noticed, but he’s up to his old tricks again, too.

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson * 10h 10 hours ago
Find her name, I will pay. RT SURPRISE! U. Minnesota Student Who Claimed Dorm Rape At Knifepoint Is Lying, Cops Say dailycaller.com

That Daily Caller article is disgusting. The glee these people take in crowing about “fake rape stories” is nauseating. The right wing is sick in the head.

95 Charles Johnson  May 10, 2015 11:51:52am

And by the way, the police didn’t say the student was “lying.” Sick, sick, sick.

96 Charles Johnson  May 10, 2015 11:54:11am

Here’s what the police actually said:

The case is no longer a sexual assault case, school officials explained. Instead, it’s “a student crisis intervention case.”

The freshman student is now deemed “in crisis” and needs “professional assistance,” a university police spokesman suggested on Thursday.

So of course, Chuck thinks the way to help someone who’s in a crisis and needs professional assistance is to out her and publicly shame her.

It’s hard for me to describe how disgusting these people are.

97 allegro  May 10, 2015 11:58:33am

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Here’s what the police actually said:

So of course, Chuck thinks the way to help someone who’s in a crisis and needs professional assistance is to out her and publicly shame her.

It’s hard for me to describe how disgusting these people are.

I made the terrible mistake of reading a few comments. They called for her execution. Really. Actually quite frightening to think these people are our neighbors. :/

98 Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2015 11:59:41am

re: #97 allegro

I made the terrible mistake of reading a few comments. They called for her execution. Really. Actually quite frightening to think these people are our neighbors vote. :/

FTFY.

99 allegro  May 10, 2015 12:00:14pm

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

FTFY.

That too.

100 Unabogie  May 10, 2015 12:03:14pm

re: #97 allegro

I made the terrible mistake of reading a few comments. They called for her execution. Really. Actually quite frightening to think these people are our neighbors. :/

Read my story above. I think I live next to one of them.

101 b.d.  May 10, 2015 12:08:01pm

NSA shortcut transcript of Chuck C’s family visit

[chuck’s family] We’ve been reading what you’ve been writing and we need to have a talk [/chuck’s family]

But mom!

[chuck’s family] We didn’t raise you like that [/chuck’s family]

I’m smarter than all of you all combined

[chuck’s family] We’ve benefited from liberal policies and your upbringing with the good schools and all wouldn’t have been possible without them. Now, where did this racism, misogyny and hatred of homosexuals come from? [/chuck’s family]

I’m disowning all of you stupid inferior people!

[chuck’s family] Quit telling people you are autistic and admit to the world that you pooped on the floor [/chuck’s family]

You can’t talk to me that way, I am an award winning journalist. If I only had my gun! I’m going back to California and I’ll never talk to you again. Now give me some money.

102 Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2015 12:09:22pm

re: #101 b.d.

NSA shortcut transcript of Chuck C’s family visit

[chuck’s family] We’ve been reading what you’ve been writing and we need to have a talk [/chuck’s family]

But mom!

[chuck’s family] We didn’t raise you like that [/chuck’s family]

I’m smarter than all of you all combined

[chuck’s family] We’ve benefited from liberal policies and your upbringing with the good schools and all wouldn’t have been possible without them. Now, where did this racism, misogyny and hatred of homosexuals come from? [/chuck’s family]

I’m disowning all of you stupid inferior people!

[chuck’s family] Quit telling people you are autistic and admit to the world that you pooped on the floor [/chuck’s family]

You can’t talk to me that way, I am an award winning journalist. If I only had my gun! I’m going back to California and I’ll never talk to you again. Now give me some money.

Heh. Written in jest, but I wouldn’t be surprised one iota if there’s a ring of truth in that.

103 allegro  May 10, 2015 12:11:48pm

re: #100 Unabogie

Read my story above. I think I live next to one of them.

I think you do, too. As do I. They are scary people. I’ve told the story about the guy I met in the laundry room where I live who screamed expletives after me as I left for simply saying I thought the Keystone pipeline was a bad idea in answer to his question of my opinion. Then there was the guy just before the last presidential election who accelerated his truck and came right at me and my dogs forcing us to leap out of the way as he guffawed and shot me the bird. I was wearing an Obama T.

104 Unabogie  May 10, 2015 12:13:05pm

re: #101 b.d.

Chuck’s response:

RU A WIZZARD!?!

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!

105 Justanotherhuman  May 10, 2015 12:13:37pm

Not surprising since 75% of NC beaches are eroding at the avg rate of 3 ft a year.

106 ObserverArt  May 10, 2015 12:16:08pm

Sounds like everyone is citing examples of American Exceptionalism.

/// x infinity

107 Lord Of The Pies  May 10, 2015 12:39:34pm

I treated myself to a shopping trip to Nordstrom as a Mother’s Day present to me, and on the way home picked up a 6-pack of Czech Pilsner Urquell.

108 Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2015 12:40:42pm

re: #107 The Pie Mother

I treated myself to a shopping trip to Nordstrom as a Mother’s Day present to me, and on the way home picked up a 6-pack of Czech Pilsner Urquell.

Ahh…..the good stuff.

Cheers! Or as they say here, na zdraví.

109 dholmes32  May 10, 2015 12:41:56pm

O.M.G. The sky is going to fall, I just know it. Another thing I agree with Sen. Jeff Flake about. I think we’re up to three things? (Normalizing trade with Cuba, something else, and this.) I’m getting nervous.

110 BeachDem  May 10, 2015 12:43:34pm

Didn’t realize that upchuck’s animosity toward Charles went back this far:

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 1, 2009

So Long, Other Charles Johnson
By Charles Johnson at 12:19 PM

My old boss and good friend, Ben Boychuk, paid me a compliment on his blog, Infinite Monkeys, recently when he described how different I am from Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs. In recent years Johnson has gone off the deep end in much the same way that Andrew Sullivan has: criticizing the right and the right exclusively for a kind of nuttiness that he displays oh so often in his own writing. (Rathergate, being a rather clear exception.)

In any event, he’s now officially broken with the Right and been written up in the Huffington Post for having made the break. So long and good riddance. If only you’d change your name, too!

For those wondering why I so often go with my middle initial, Charles C. Johnson. (C. stands for Carlisle.)

claremontconservative.com

111 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 12:44:40pm

re: #107 The Pie Mother

I treated myself to a shopping trip to Nordstrom as a Mother’s Day present to me, and on the way home picked up a 6-pack of Czech Pilsner Urquell.

An excellent choice! Happy Mother’s Day to you and all the fine Lizard Moms at LGF!!

112 Lord Of The Pies  May 10, 2015 12:47:33pm

re: #111 makeitstop

An excellent choice! Happy Mother’s Day to you and all the fine Lizard Moms at LGF!!

I tasted it in Prague for the first time and I’m like BEST. BEER. EVER.

There was free* Heinikens in the KLM lounge at the airport but meh.

*not really free, it was paid for with a business class ticket

Silver medal in the Beer Olympics= Molson Ice (Yay Team Canada!)

113 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 12:52:46pm

re: #112 The Pie Mother

I tasted it in Prague for the first time and I’m like BEST. BEER. EVER.

There was free* Heinikens in the KLM lounge at the airport but meh.

*not really free, it was paid for with a business class ticket

Silver medal in the Beer Olympics= Molson Ice (Yay Team Canada!)

A number of places in the NYC area have it on tap. My go-to any time I see that tap handle.

114 Lord Of The Pies  May 10, 2015 1:18:55pm

If this douche was my son I would so slap him==>

115 TedStriker  May 10, 2015 1:19:43pm

re: #114 The Pie Mother

If this douche was my son I would so slap him==>

[Embedded content]

Shapiro excels at being a complete and total dick, doesn’t he?

116 BigPapa  May 10, 2015 1:27:18pm

re: #115 TedStriker

Shapiro excels at being a complete and total dick, doesn’t he?

He’s no different than Ginger Avenger.

But he hasn’t shit on anything yet, so they aren’t totally the same.

117 Unabogie  May 10, 2015 1:29:08pm

re: #116 BigPapa

So where does the story about UpChuck shitting on the floor come from?

118 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 1:30:18pm

Yard work beckons. Scout says ‘Happy Mother’s Day.’

119 Unabogie  May 10, 2015 1:30:56pm

Found it myself.

gawker.com

This rumor, first noted (but not confirmed) by Deadspin’s Greg Howard, alleges that Johnson defecated on a dormitory floor when he attended Claremont McKenna College in suburban Los Angeles. Last week, two of Johnson’s college classmates, using Gawker burner accounts, filled in the details of the shitting story.

120 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 1:31:05pm
121 stpaulbear  May 10, 2015 1:33:47pm

re: #120 makeitstop

Puppeh really wants to believe you.

122 ObserverArt  May 10, 2015 1:45:26pm

re: #120 makeitstop

Embedded Image

Scout’s done growed all up!

123 De Kolta Chair  May 10, 2015 1:45:37pm

Speaking of sports and flags, during the women’s tennis medals ceremony at the 2012 London Olympics, Serena Williams (gold), Maria Sharapova (silver), and Victoria Azarenka (bronze) and around 11,000 others got to witness this:

124 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 1:45:37pm

re: #120 makeitstop

Embedded Image

“Who’s the good dog? Maybe I’m the good dog? Am I the good dog? Maybe I can get a treat if I’m the good dog?”

RBS

125 BeachDem  May 10, 2015 1:58:29pm

re: #119 Unabogie

Found it myself.

gawker.com

I think it really started with this Twitter account:

Charles C. Johnson
@NotClrmtConsrv
Charles Johnson has been slandering people for 4 years. This is NOT Charles, but rather a look inside his perverted twisted mind. NotCharlesJohnson@gmail.com

126 Justanotherhuman  May 10, 2015 1:59:48pm

This is fucking heresy. : )

“A mother is a person who seeing there are only four pieces of pie for five people, promptly announces she never did care for pie.” — Tenneva Jordan

Cut it in 5 pieces, for crying out loud. Mothers need pie the most.

127 BigPapa  May 10, 2015 2:07:41pm
128 Justanotherhuman  May 10, 2015 2:07:47pm

Terrific.

Owners of Indian Point energy center in Buchanan, NY, plan to clean up several thousand gallons of oil that spilled into the Hudson River - @lohud
lohud.com

129 Targetpractice  May 10, 2015 2:16:12pm

re: #128 Justanotherhuman

Terrific.

Owners of Indian Point energy center in Buchanan, NY, plan to clean up several thousand gallons of oil that spilled into the Hudson River - @lohud
lohud.com

Hey now, pipelines are much safer than train derailments, because they so rarely leak.

////

130 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 3:16:20pm

re: #129 Targetpractice

Hey now, pipelines are much safer than train derailments, because they so rarely leak.

////

I believe the oil was from a transformer explosion that happened yesterday.

131 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2015 3:16:48pm

re: #130 makeitstop

I believe the oil was from a transformer explosion that happened yesterday.

It was.


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the Killers - Run for CoverArtists: The KillersDirected By: Tarik MikouCo-Directed By: Eric MorinWritten By: Flowers, Stoermer, Vannucci, Price, Cameron, Lee, MarleyProducers: Jacknife Lee, Daniel Jean, Olivier Picard, David Pierrat(C) 2017 Island Records, a division of UMG Recordings, Inc. vevo.ly
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(12) LATEST: 7.1 Magnitude Quake Kills 119 as Buildings Crumble in MexicoMexico’s federal government says the death toll in a magnitude 7.1 earthquake has risen to 119.
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Domestic Violence Homicide Rate Drops With Stricter Gun Law, Study Finds When domestic violence offenders are required to relinquish their guns, instead of simply being barred from owning firearms, the risk that those offenders may kill their partners goes down, a new study finds. The paper, described in the Annals ...
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Exploring Child Marriage Around the World The age at which people first marry can have long-lasting implications for their physical, economic and social well-being -- particularly when marriage first happens at a young age. As part of our forthcoming global research on child marriage, we ...
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Failing Charter Schools Have a Reincarnation Plan — ProPublica This past June, Florida’s top education agency delivered a failing grade to the Orange Park Performing Arts Academy in suburban Jacksonville for the second year in a row. It designated the charter school for kindergarten through fifth grade as ...
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How Renaissance Painting Smoldered With a Little Known Hallucinogen Bosch provides the most fertile ground for art lovers wanting to believe that hallucinogenic fungi may have a significant place in art history. This is partially because the painter has a special connection to Anthony, depicting the saint over ...
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Hillary Clinton’s ‘What Happened’ Says Something Revealing About America Later, Clinton brings a similar wistfulness to her account of the second debate with Trump, at which he stalked her on stage, seeking to intimidate her. “Do you stay calm,” she asks, referring to her options, “keep smiling and ...
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Honey Glazed Apple Strudel : Recipe INGREDIENTS1 package of frozen croissant dough (hey I'm in a wheelchair!)1/2 c. breadcrumbs1/2 c. (1/2 stick) butter or margarine8 Apples (4 Granny Smith & 4 Honeycrisp)1/2 c. dried Montmorency cherries (optional)2 Tbsp rum or kirschwasser (optional)1/2 c. sugar1/4 c. ...
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Study: 4,500 Deaths a Year From High Europe Diesel Emissions Remember that time Europe encouraged diesel vehicles because they were thought to be more environmentally friendly? Between black carbon climate effects and cancer deaths that claim turns out to be specious. BERLIN (AP) — Researchers say there have been ...
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Marine Booted From Corps for Flying White Nationalist Banner One of two active-duty Marines arrested in May for hanging a white nationalist banner during a Confederate Memorial Day celebration has been booted from the service, Marine Corps Times reported on Sept. 12 — one month after violent clashes ...
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