Dancing in the Arctic Circle: Anneli Drecker, “Alone”

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With: Louise von Euler Bjurholm and Henrik Agger

Director: Thor Brenne
Producer: Thor Brenne and Martin Edelsteen
Line Producer: Erik Mikkelsen
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Styling: Fanny Senocq
Gaffer: Jon-André Hakvåg
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DIT: Øyvind Opshaug
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Pyrotechnician and Production assistant: Ole Dalen

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533 comments
1 Justanotherhuman  May 10, 2015 2:12:50pm

The song was beautiful; the video left me cold. : )

2 Charles Johnson  May 10, 2015 2:17:06pm

re: #1 Justanotherhuman

The song was beautiful; the video left me cold. : )

I think you need to chill out.

3 b.d.  May 10, 2015 2:25:54pm

I take it that those were two dancers that Putin didn’t like?

4 Belafon  May 10, 2015 2:29:06pm

Left on the cutting room floor were images of Rocky Balboa training nearby.

5 Amory Blaine  May 10, 2015 2:42:11pm

Beautiful display of strength and grace.

6 retired cynic  May 10, 2015 2:42:56pm

re: #5 Amory Blaine

Beautiful display of strength and grace.

Yes, but the singing is sublime as well.

7 Lidane  May 10, 2015 2:49:38pm

I am annoyed with people this weekend. Just totally fucking done.

So the house I’ve lived in since December 2012 is a manufactured home on a lot in a neighborhood. My landlord and his family put the property up for sale in March, with a sale coming in at the end of April.

I put up an ad looking for a temporary summer rental just so I’d have a roof over my head while I had a chance to do a solid search for a new permanent place. Got two replies that were worth a damn — three months (May-Aug) at a nearby condo at the same rent I’m already paying, or four months (May-
Sept) at a house less than five minutes from work for a slightly higher price. Went through screening for both properties. Met the owners, etc. But now the guy with the condo isn’t sure he’s going to be gone because of whatever bullshit reason, and the married couple with the house have turned out to be batshit crazy and overbearing and keep changing the terms of the deal on the fly.

Fuck it all. I’m doing what I should have done from the start and calling an apartment locator in the morning. I’ll let them find me something that I can afford and move into ASAP.

8 Shiplord Kirel  May 10, 2015 2:50:30pm

Here’s some motivation. Arctic meals on wheels? Tour de Lunch?

9 Shiplord Kirel  May 10, 2015 2:55:23pm

Frequent Fox News guest blames Obama for Mississippi shooting: ‘Obama started this war on police’ (Freeper re-post with bonus derp in the comments.)

Less than 24 hours after two officers were gunned down in Mississippi, the sheriff of Milwaukee County — a frequent guest on Fox News — blamed the killing on President Barack Obama on Twitter, saying the president “started this war on police.”

Earlier Sunday, Sheriff David A. Clarke, noted the shooting that claimed the lives on two officers, 34-year-old Benjamin Deen and 25-year-old Liquori Tate, in Hattiesburg. The sheriff re-tweeted: “Basic traffic stop in Hattiesburg, 2 Police Officers assassinated. The post Ferguson targeting of our Cops continues.”

10 Belafon  May 10, 2015 2:59:22pm

re: #9 Shiplord Kirel

No cops ever died before Ferguson, just like healthcare costs never went up before Obamacare.

11 Amory Blaine  May 10, 2015 3:00:05pm

Walker and the GOP are going to break the parks.

Elimination Of Tax Funding For State Parks Approved By Budget Committee

State tax funding for Wisconsin’s state parks would be zeroed out and user fees would go up under a plan approved by Republicans on the Legislature’s budget committee Thursday.

Republicans agreed with Gov. Scott Walker’s proposal to cut more than $4.5 million in state funding from the parks each year. They would would make up part of that money by increasing fees on park users and campers. Hazelhurst Republican Sen. Tom Tiffany said that made sense.

“The people that utilize a service, they should pay for that service,” said Tiffany.

However, the nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau found there are no other state park systems that are entirely self-sufficient. Democratic Rep. Chris Taylor of Madison said trying to do it in Wisconsin was reckless.

12 Justanotherhuman  May 10, 2015 3:00:36pm

Chillin’.

…

13 Thanos  May 10, 2015 3:01:20pm

Brings back memories - when you get into the Arctic regions building styles are all the same, this could have been t one of the abandoned Nike missile sites in Alaska instead of Norway.

14 Justanotherhuman  May 10, 2015 3:07:03pm

What about #JadeHelm15? This weather is all Obama’s fault, of course.

15 stpaulbear  May 10, 2015 3:19:55pm

re: #11 Amory Blaine

This was in my facebook timeline this morning. From WI AFL-CIO. Defunding state parks is going to be a disaster. Infrastructure will fall apart and invasive species will run amok. Wisconsin is never going to recover from this abuse at the hands of Walker and this shit-filled batch of republican legislators.

16 Shiplord Kirel  May 10, 2015 3:23:31pm

More freeper madness
Does your man have nicer lingerie than you? [Get ready to board the Vomit Comet]

This is a pretty ordinary fluff story designed to enhance revenue by scandalizing and titillating the rubes, but the freepers STILL manage to make it about Obama, Jade Helm, and the alleged persecution of Christians.

17 Belafon  May 10, 2015 3:28:14pm

re: #15 stpaulbear

This was in my facebook timeline this morning. From WI AFL-CIO. Defunding state parks is going to be a disaster. Infrastructure will fall apart and invasive species will run amok. Wisconsin is never going to recover from this abuse at the hands of Walker and this shit-filled batch of republican legislators.

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This keeps the proletariat out of the parks. If you can’t afford to go there on your own money, then you don’t need to go.

18 Justanotherhuman  May 10, 2015 3:31:55pm

re: #17 Belafon

This keeps the proletariat out of the parks. If you can’t afford to go there on your own money, then you don’t need to go.

There won’t be any State parks after Walker gets through selling them off.

19 BigPapa  May 10, 2015 3:32:38pm

There’s going to be more Scott Walkers I’m afraid.

20 b.d.  May 10, 2015 3:33:26pm

re: #14 Justanotherhuman

What about #JadeHelm15? This weather is all Obama’s fault, of course.

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The government is using the weather manipulating HAARP system to unsettle the populace and make the takeover easier.

21 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 3:34:48pm

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel

More freeper madness
Does your man have nicer lingerie than you? [Get ready to board the Vomit Comet]

This is a pretty ordinary fluff story designed to enhance revenue by scandalizing and titillating the rubes, but the freepers STILL manage to make it about Obama, Jade Helm, and the alleged persecution of Christians.

Because if you accept that it’s NOT all about Obama, Jade Helm and persecution of Christians, then what reason is there to get out of bed in the morning?

In any case, I’ve got to go, got a part time gig helping close the local WalMart, we’re putting the fencing up inside the store and setting up the sally port entryways today. Hopefully the TBM crew has moved on to the next location.

RBS

22 BigPapa  May 10, 2015 3:35:29pm
24 stpaulbear  May 10, 2015 3:36:06pm

re: #17 Belafon

This keeps the proletariat out of the parks. If you can’t afford to go there on your own money, then you don’t need to go.

The ultimate plan is to sell the state parks to Walker’s rich backers. The legislature has already given him the legal authority to do that. WI may be visiting Menard’s State Park before Walker is gone. I’m so pissed off and horrified by this. WI has trashed itself so fast.

25 Justanotherhuman  May 10, 2015 3:38:38pm

Chillin’ with Pres Obama.

…

26 Lord Of The Pies  May 10, 2015 3:50:06pm

I’m baking challah from 10 lbs of flour. That means 8 large & 16 medium challahs.

Next week I have to bake the cheesecake & the vegan whole wheat challah. I haven’t decided on the vegan soup option, either mushroom barley or butternut lentil.

MY FEET HURT!

27 stpaulbear  May 10, 2015 3:53:21pm

re: #24 stpaulbear

State Parks are your state’s heritage. You’re preserving the most important natural and historic places in your state. Selling off the parks is like selling your children so you can put the money into gold and rare coins.

28 PhillyPretzel  May 10, 2015 3:58:12pm

Errrr. ::: stepping onto soapbox ::: I like amazon quite a bit but some of those independent couriers are not good. I ordered some HDMI cables so I could watch a nice movie this evening. I have had my windows open and have been hanging around them most of the day waiting for this delivery. I just got a notice that they tried to deliver the package. I checked with my neighbor who has been outside all day and she and her family saw no delivery truck. According to the second message they tried to deliver the cables to Folcroft, PA. I had to look that city up. It is in Delaware County. My neighbor and I had a good laugh but I agree with her husband they should refund the $5.99 for same day delivery. Thanks for allowing me to sound off. ::: stepping off of soapbox :::

29 PhillyPretzel  May 10, 2015 4:01:13pm

re: #26 The Pie Mother

The mushroom barley sounds good.

30 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 4:08:00pm

So, Seymour Hersh claims that Obama lied about killing bin Laden?

Is there nothing that isn’t fair game for a goddamn conspiracy theory nowadays?

ODS is one hell of a drug.

31 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 4:13:00pm

Let’s journey south from the Badger State to the Land of Lincoln for this next story. You can not like guns but still be glad this particular machine gun was spared from the cutting torch:

Vintage machine gun saved from the torch and put on display

An Illinois military museum has managed to save a historic machine gun, captured by an area Marine during World War II- but only after a local sheriff rescued it from the ATF first.

The Livingston County War Museum in Pontiac last week placed their newly-acquired Type 99 light machine gun on public display, surrounded by photos and memorabilia that once belonged to the man who brought it home from Iwo Jima.

That Marine, John Sullivan, helped silence the weapon in 1945- attested by the damage visible on the bipod and carrying handle of the 23-pound 7.7mm machine gun.

“All the men were lined up, taking fire from a pillbox,” Jane Sullivan-DePaoli, his daughter told the Pontiac Daily Leader, recalling her father’s story, “My dad went in the pillbox, and the gunner turned on him, but he was able to take him and his assistant out. After the battle, he went back and the machine gun was still there, so he took it.”

According to the U.S. Naval History and Heritage Command, the 36-day assault on the Japanese-held island resulted in more than 26,000 American casualties, including 6,800 dead. Of the 20,000 Japanese defenders, only 1,083 survived. It was on Iwo Jima’s Mount Suribachi that a patrol of the 28th Marines raised the U.S. flag—an iconic moment in U.S. military history.

I’m glad for this ending: John Sullivan was a true hero and putting the gun he took out on display along with the other things he brought back pays his memory just tribute.

Also of note is that his focus in attacking that pillbox was to stop the gunfire that was killing his comrades. When some nutbar tried to argue too much recognition is paid nowadays to soldiers who save those they fight beside, and not enough attention is paid to killing the enemy, throw this story at them. It should quiet ‘em down.

32 Belafon  May 10, 2015 4:15:27pm

re: #30 makeitstop

So, Seymour Hersh claims that Obama lied about killing bin Laden?

Is there nothing that isn’t fair game for a goddamn conspiracy theory nowadays?

ODS is one hell of a drug.

I went looking for something about this, and found this article from him. The second paragraph starts:

The most blatant lie was that Pakistan’s two most senior military leaders - General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, chief of the army staff, and General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, director general of the ISI - were never informed of the US mission. This remains the White House position despite an array of reports that have raised questions, including one by Carlotta Gall in the New York Times Magazine of 19 March 2014. Gall, who spent 12 years as the Times correspondent in Afghanistan, wrote that she’d been told by a ‘Pakistani official’ that Pasha had known before the raid that bin Laden was in Abbottabad.

Notice the bait and switch. First, he says that it’s a lie that Pakistan knew the US was going to go after bin Laden. Then his proof is that Pasha, director general of the ISI, knew that Obama was in Abbottabad. Not the same thing. Just knowing he was there doesn’t mean he knew about the raid.

And from Google news, the only two links so far about this are WND and the Hill.

33 retired cynic  May 10, 2015 4:17:32pm

re: #32 Belafon

Quick note: Obama / Osama switch!

34 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 10, 2015 4:18:03pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

My only interest in guns is historic (and as a very important part of the history of technology), so I’m glad this one was saved from the crucible.

35 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 10, 2015 4:21:06pm

re: #32 Belafon

Notice the bait and switch. First, he says that it’s a lie that Pakistan knew the US was going to go after bin Laden. Then his proof is that Pasha, director general of the ISI, knew that Obama was in Abbottabad. Not the same thing. Just knowing he was there doesn’t mean he knew about the raid.

I honestly think they are incapable of understanding the distinction. There is something seriously amiss in the RWNJs’ thinking processes—but I guess we knew that.

36 stpaulbear  May 10, 2015 4:22:06pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

Let’s journey south from the Badger State…

Yeah. Let’s do. So typical. You always change the subject.

I need to sign out.

37 retired cynic  May 10, 2015 4:24:19pm

re: #36 stpaulbear

???

38 b.d.  May 10, 2015 4:24:31pm

Watching on TV National Guard choppers pick morons off of vehicles they drove into high flood water here in North Texas.

This is obviously practice for Jade Helm

//

39 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 4:25:18pm

re: #35 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I honestly think they are incapable of understanding the distinction. There is something seriously amiss in the RWNJs’ thinking processes—but I guess we knew that.

That acronym doesn’t work in this case. Seymour Hersh isn’t ring-wing. He’s the man who exposed My Lai and the US detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib. He’s always been a man of the left.

The charge of being an ODS sufferer can stand against Hersh. But the charge of his being an RWNJ cannot stand, given his record.

40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 10, 2015 4:25:42pm

re: #38 b.d.

Watching on TV National Guard choppers pick morons off of vehicles they drove into high flood water here in North Texas.

This is obviously practice for Jade Helm

//

Any of them shooting at the helicopters? I wouldn’t be surprised.

41 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 10, 2015 4:27:08pm

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

That acronym doesn’t work in this case. Seymour Hersh isn’t ring-wing. He’s the man who exposed My Lai and the US detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib. He’s always been a man of the left.

The charge of being an ODS sufferer can stand against Hersh. But the charge of his being an RWNJ cannot stand, given his record.

I had him mixed up with somebody else. My bad.

42 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 4:27:25pm

re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Any of them shooting at the helicopters? I wouldn’t be surprised.

I doubt it. Even pickup by a “black helicopter of the New World Order” would look better to most people than death by drowning.

43 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 10, 2015 4:29:49pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

I doubt it. Even pickup by a “black helicopter of the New World Order” would look better to most people than death by drowning.

Just takes one. Any “Florida Men™” in Texas?

44 b.d.  May 10, 2015 4:32:13pm

re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Any of them shooting at the helicopters? I wouldn’t be surprised.

I wish the Army would paint their coppers baby blue just to mess with those pathetic yahoos.

45 Timothy Watson  May 10, 2015 4:33:01pm

re: #44 b.d.

I wish the Army would paint their coppers baby blue just to mess with those pathetic yahoos.

UN HELICOPTERS!!1!!

46 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 4:33:55pm

re: #36 stpaulbear

Yeah. Let’s do. So typical. You always change the subject.

I need to sign out.

I haven’t defended Scott Walker’s budget regarding Wisconsin’s state parks because I don’t agree with it, even though I support him on other matters. But the story I wanted to post was out of my home state of Illinois, which happens to be the state south of Wisconsin. “Let’s journey south” was just my attempt to relate. I wasn’t trying to derail the other topic.

47 Shiplord Kirel  May 10, 2015 4:34:03pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

I doubt it. Even pickup by a “black helicopter of the New World Order” would look better to most people than death by drowning.

Hah! That’s what they think! They haven’t seen our new “reception center” and processing facility under the Denver Airport.

48 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 4:34:27pm

re: #43 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Just takes one. Any “Florida MenTM” in Texas?

I don’t get the reference.

49 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 10, 2015 4:37:24pm

We need to disseminate this Hubble picture far and wide. Obama’s eye is following you everywhere you go. Mwah-ha-ha!

50 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 4:38:01pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel

Hah! That’s what they think! They haven’t seen our new “reception center” and processing facility under the Denver Airport.

That project’s been canceled. Didn’t you get the memo?

Click to Reveal

Charles has found that devouring wingnuts isn’t nearly as good for him as devouring moonbats. Wingnuts are too fat and they drink too much alcohol. We’re supposed to move the wingnuts to the sooper seekrit facility in [censored]

51 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2015 4:38:15pm

re: #49 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We need to disseminate this Hubble picture far and wide. Obama’s eye is following you everywhere you go. Mwah-ha-ha!

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ebola eye…

52 jaunte  May 10, 2015 4:38:48pm
53 Timothy Watson  May 10, 2015 4:39:20pm

re: #49 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We need to disseminate this Hubble picture far and wide. Obama’s eye is following you everywhere you go. Mwah-ha-ha!

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Oh no, it’s Sauron!

54 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 10, 2015 4:42:30pm

re: #48 Dark_Falcon

I don’t get the reference.

Here’s a short list of the many adventures of Florida Man.

55 Viscous Obama  May 10, 2015 4:43:19pm

Hey, this is Barack Obama…

56 Charles Johnson  May 10, 2015 4:47:43pm

Man, the Amazon Studios adaptation of Michael Connelly’s novels, “Bosch,” is just excellent. Riveting detective thriller, great character development. Didn’t expect it to be this good.

57 b.d.  May 10, 2015 4:48:00pm

re: #55 Viscous Obama

Hey, this is Barack Obama…

hahahahahahaha

58 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 4:50:05pm

re: #54 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Here’s a short list of the many adventures of Florida Man.

Thanks.

59 Bear  May 10, 2015 4:50:49pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel

Wonder where it was?

60 William Lewis  May 10, 2015 4:57:17pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

Without trying to be a smartass, it is good to know there are limits to your support of Scooter. I do wish you’d understand that much of the rest of his agenda is even worse for the state long term - especially since his fiscal incompetence is even worse than that of the Kansas Governor’s…

61 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2015 5:00:11pm

re: #21 RealityBasedSteve

Because if you accept that it’s NOT all about Obama, Jade Helm and persecution of Christians, then what reason is there to get out of bed in the morning?

In any case, I’ve got to go, got a part time gig helping close the local WalMart, we’re putting the fencing up inside the store and setting up the sally port entryways today. Hopefully the TBM crew has moved on to the next location.

RBS

hahahahaa…you’re not fooling us.

You’re digging tunnels…

:D

62 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 5:20:24pm

Notable, in part of timeliness and also because its a rare day when Jane’s publishes with this kind of Daily Mail-ese headline:

Iran’s mock aircraft carrier lives to die another day

The replica US aircraft carrier that Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps Navy (IRGCN) used as a target during an exercise in February was not destroyed, recently released Google Earth satellite imagery shows.

Iranian media showed the carrier being hit by at least one anti-ship missile and being bombarded by rockets fired by a large number of fast inshore attack craft (FIAC) during the ‘Great Prophet 9’ exercise on 25 February. Iranian television also showed footage of a large explosion ripping through its hull that was probably staged for the cameras.

The satellite imagery shows it survived the explosion and had been towed back to the port of Bandar Abbas by 25 March. A large section of it flight deck had been ripped open.

Earlier satellite imagery of Bandar Abbas on 7 February also provided an indication of the size of the IRGCN’s FIAC fleet. Over 100 small craft ranging between 8 and 20 m in length had assembled on that date in the build-up to the exercise.

63 Decatur Deb  May 10, 2015 5:22:55pm

Just unpacked from the Mother’s Day Grand Tour/Kayak Challenge. Taking a Silkwood shower tonight and putting on another layer of Neosporin, popping some Mobic, and hoping the freaking dentist answers her voicemail about salvaging the incisor.

Trip cost a thousand, three if you count the insured medical. Could have achieved the same results at a shitkicker roadhouse for a tenth of the cost.

64 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2015 5:23:52pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

YIKES!!!

65 Belafon  May 10, 2015 5:24:50pm

re: #33 retired cynic

Quick note: Obama / Osama switch!

Thanks. We’re under a tornado warning here and I went to pay attention to that, and now I can’t fix it.

66 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 5:27:06pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

Just unpacked from the Mother’s Day Grand Tour/Kayak Challenge. Taking a Silkwood shower tonight and putting on another layer of Neosporin, popping some Mobic, and hoping the freaking dentist answers her voicemail about salvaging the incisor.

Trip cost a thousand, three if you count the insured medical. Could have achieved the same results at a shitkicker roadhouse for a tenth of the cost.

Bummer… Sounds like you’ve got a story you can dine on for a while however, so there is that.

RBS

67 Decatur Deb  May 10, 2015 5:27:42pm

re: #66 RealityBasedSteve

Bummer… Sounds like you’ve got a story you can dine on for a while however, so there is that.

RBS

Not if dining includes corn on the cob.

68 b.d.  May 10, 2015 5:29:30pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

Notable, in part of timeliness and also because its a rare day when Jane’s publishes with this kind of Daily Mail-ese headline:

Iran’s mock aircraft carrier lives to die another day

So the Iranians can’t even destroy a fake aircraft carrier? And the wingnuts are wetting themselves over them?

69 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 10, 2015 5:34:09pm

mr. klys called his folks to wish his mom a happy mother’s day and they got to talking about family genealogy.

At which point we established that his great grandfather died 90 years before he was born, and his great-great-grandfather has a veteran’s headstone …for service in the War of 1812.

That was a fun surprise.

70 b_sharp  May 10, 2015 5:35:53pm

re: #69 klys (maker of Silmarils)

mr. klys called his folks to wish his mom a happy mother’s day and they got to talking about family genealogy.

At which point we established that his great grandfather died 90 years before he was born, and his great-great-grandfather has a veteran’s headstone …for service in the War of 1812.

That was a fun surprise.

How does someone die 90 years before they’re born?

Does that make them a member of the pre-dead?

71 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 10, 2015 5:38:00pm

re: #70 b_sharp

How does someone die 90 years before they’re born?

Does that make them a member of the pre-dead?

Pronouns are tricky, but I think you could figure out what I meant.

72 A Cranky One  May 10, 2015 5:38:12pm

re: #70 b_sharp

How does someone die 90 years before they’re born?

Does that make them a member of the pre-dead?

He was obviously testing Obama’s time machine.

/

73 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 5:41:38pm

re: #68 b.d.

So the Iranians can’t even destroy a fake aircraft carrier? And the wingnuts are wetting themselves over them?

To be fair fake aircraft carriers don’t suffer secondary explosions. If all they did was build a fancy steel bathtub and only damaged it above the waterline that would explain it.

74 b_sharp  May 10, 2015 5:41:43pm

re: #71 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Pronouns are tricky, but I think you could figure out what I meant.

But that wouldn’t have made as interesting a misapprehension.

Words are fun when manipulated.

75 Decatur Deb  May 10, 2015 5:44:28pm

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

To be fair fake aircraft carriers don’t suffer secondary explosions. If all they did was build a fancy steel bathtub and only damaged it above the waterline that would explain it.

This one was plywood. They weren’t anticipating our Pave Bug termite bomb.

76 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  May 10, 2015 5:45:48pm

re: #68 b.d.

So the Iranians can’t even destroy a fake aircraft carrier? And the wingnuts are wetting themselves over them?

In all seriousness, they can easily shut down the Strait of Hormuz, and that’s no laughing matter. We don’t need that oil, but everybody who makes our stuff does.

77 b.d.  May 10, 2015 5:55:03pm

re: #75 Decatur Deb

This one was plywood. They weren’t anticipating our Pave Bug termite bomb.

Doh, we thought you said Thermite bomb!

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78 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 5:55:34pm

re: #76 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

In all seriousness, they can easily shut down the Strait of Hormuz, and that’s no laughing matter. We don’t need that oil, but everybody who makes our stuff does.

They could close it, but not for very long. We’d force it back open, and they know it. Iran is telling the truth when they say they could hurt us, but they can’t stop us.

But the fact remains we’d get hurt and I’d rather not see that happen. I’d rather reach an accommodation with Iran, if that is possible.

79 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 10, 2015 5:57:18pm

re: #73 goddamnedfrank

To be fair fake aircraft carriers don’t suffer secondary explosions. If all they did was build a fancy steel bathtub and only damaged it above the waterline that would explain it.

You nailed it: the fake carrier is a big barge. As long as you only hole it above the waterline it’ll float.

80 Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2015 5:58:00pm

That would make an interesting reality show: An average american has to go 30 days without using ANYTHING made in China.

81 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  May 10, 2015 5:58:29pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

If you had a ship worth a couple hundred million dollars carrying a cargo worth at least 50 million, I don’t think you’re going to want take the chance. EDIT: It isn’t US they have to stop.

82 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 6:04:08pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

They could close it, but not for very long. We’d force it back open, and they know it. Iran is telling the truth when they say they could hurt us, but they can’t stop us.

But the fact remains we’d get hurt and I’d rather not see that happen. I’d rather reach an accommodation with Iran, if that is possible.

I’m sure that somebody will correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems like the last time something like this happened, what effectively closed the Straits was that the insurance companies made it so expensive to insure ships that were going to transit the Straits.

The threat of force is as effective (if not more so) than actual force.

RBS

83 Great White Snark  May 10, 2015 6:05:52pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

What happens is insurance goes up and the ships just don’t transit. They stay in port.

84 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 6:08:57pm

re: #82 RealityBasedSteve

I’m sure that somebody will correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems like the last time something like this happened, what effectively closed the Straits was that the insurance companies made it so expensive to insure ships that were going to transit the Straits.

The threat of force is as effective (if not more so) than actual force.

RBS

There’s a solution to that: The US government should insure those oil tankers we need to pass. It might need new legislation, though I think if it were the Revolutionary Guards who sank a tanker it could be classed under Terrorism Risk Insurance. However, that would not work if the regular Iranian Navy sank a tanker, since that would be an act of war and not an act of terrorism.

85 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 10, 2015 6:10:38pm

re: #83 Great White Snark

What happens is insurance goes up and the ships just don’t transit. They stay in port.

Iran doesn’t even have to sink a tanker for that to happen. It just has to beat one up a bit and they’ll remain in port.

86 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2015 6:11:04pm

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

O_o

87 Great White Snark  May 10, 2015 6:15:09pm

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

It just wont play out like that.

88 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2015 6:16:14pm

I’ve been awake since 3 am with a sick dog. She appears much improved now, so I shall try to catch up on some much needed sleep.

laterz, lizardz…

89 Decatur Deb  May 10, 2015 6:16:26pm

re: #81 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

If you had a ship worth a couple hundred million dollars carrying a cargo worth at least 50 million, I don’t think you’re going to want take the chance. EDIT: It isn’t US they have to stop.

Wouldn’t even be the shipper’s decision. The guys who would actually close the straits are Western maritime insurers.

90 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 10, 2015 6:17:28pm

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

There’s a solution to that: The US government should insure those oil tankers we need to pass. It might need new legislation, though I think if it were the Revolutionary Guards who sank a tanker it could be classed under Terrorism Risk Insurance. However, that would not work if the regular Iranian Navy sank a tanker, since that would be an act of war and not an act of terrorism.

Sure, they could call it “Sitting Duck Insurance.” I’m confident that the Republicans in Congress will fall all over themselves to get the government into insuring foreign flagged oil tankers.

91 Snarknado!  May 10, 2015 6:17:35pm

re: #28 PhillyPretzel

Errrr. ::: stepping onto soapbox ::: I like amazon quite a bit but some of those independent couriers are not good. I ordered some HDMI cables so I could watch a nice movie this evening. I have had my windows open and have been hanging around them most of the day waiting for this delivery. I just got a notice that they tried to deliver the package. I checked with my neighbor who has been outside all day and she and her family saw no delivery truck. According to the second message they tried to deliver the cables to Folcroft, PA. I had to look that city up. It is in Delaware County. My neighbor and I had a good laugh but I agree with her husband they should refund the $5.99 for same day delivery. Thanks for allowing me to sound off. ::: stepping off of soapbox :::

Email a complaint and they will do something.

92 Decatur Deb  May 10, 2015 6:18:50pm

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

There’s a solution to that: The US government should insure those oil tankers we need to pass. It might need new legislation, though I think if it were the Revolutionary Guards who sank a tanker it could be classed under Terrorism Risk Insurance. However, that would not work if the regular Iranian Navy sank a tanker, since that would be an act of war and not an act of terrorism.

Assuming we actually want that particular oil to hit market. At times I thought the only way the Iraq invasion made sense was to choke off their oil, in someone’s interest.

93 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 6:20:51pm

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

There’s a solution to that: The US government should insure those oil tankers we need to pass. It might need new legislation, though I think if it were the Revolutionary Guards who sank a tanker it could be classed under Terrorism Risk Insurance.

Force Majeure, there is a good reason that insurance companies simply refuse to cover shit like that. What you propose is basically moral hazard personified, and as such the absolute antithesis of what we’d normally call economic conservatism. Except in modern practice this kind of “privatize the profits and socialize the risks” seems to be the conservative answer to everything. Why is that?

94 CuriousLurker  May 10, 2015 6:23:47pm

I don’t know squat about military stuff, so can anyone tell me if this is accurate?

95 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 6:29:51pm

re: #94 CuriousLurker

Not entirely, but it makes a decent point: The Navy does indeed want to replace the Cyclone-class patrol boats with Littoral Combat Ships, but its case for doing so is a bit better than the article allows: The bigger ships can carry more weapons and two of them would stand a much better chance against a ‘small craft swarm’ than two Cyclones would.

That said, the decision is characteristic of the USN’s long-standing preference for larger, long-ranged surface combatants.

96 freetoken  May 10, 2015 6:31:21pm

re: #94 CuriousLurker

Ship procurements are messy business. There’s a lot of politics involved because a lot of jobs are at stake (that’s right, defense spending is a jobs project.)

My take ( a long time ago) is that competing forces within and outside the Navy makes for ship procurements driven first by politics.

Operationally, the challenge the Navy faces is whether the old big-picture tradeoffs (e.g., several small boats versus a few large ones, the role of air power in the Navy, national strategic assets versus traditional naval combat, etc.) are carefully regroomed to fit whatever the politicians want.

I concluded a few decades back that many Navy assets are sitting ducks and only because the US has had no major naval wars in 70 years we can keep pretending big gray boats are not sitting ducks.

If I was running the ship I would put money in littoral combat and submarines, but the aircraft carriers and the big destroyers make for prettier propaganda and that is another political battle.

97 CuriousLurker  May 10, 2015 6:31:25pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

K, thanks.

98 CuriousLurker  May 10, 2015 6:32:21pm

re: #96 freetoken

Hadn’t thought about the jobs aspect—thanks.

99 freetoken  May 10, 2015 6:32:57pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

BGB-syndrome.

100 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  May 10, 2015 6:39:36pm

re: #94 CuriousLurker

From my inexpert eye, I wonder how well the little toots can defend themselves in a real shooting war.

101 Lord Of The Pies  May 10, 2015 6:42:22pm
102 Kragar  May 10, 2015 6:44:03pm

After leaving the Vatican, Castro, the brother of Fidel, the revolutionary leader who brought the Communists to power in Cuba, gushed with praise for Francis.

The pontiff “is a Jesuit, and I, in some way, am too,” Castro said at a news conference. “I always studied at Jesuit schools.”

“When the pope goes to Cuba in September, I promise to go to all his Masses, and with satisfaction,” Castro said at a news conference at the office of Italian Premier Matteo Renzi, whom he met with after the Vatican talks.

“I read all the speeches of the pope, his commentaries, and if the pope continues this way, I will go back to praying and go back to the church, and I’m not joking,” he said.

It was a startling assertion for the leader of a Communist country, whose crackdown on dissidents in the past had drawn sharp Vatican criticism.

“I am from the Cuban Communist Party, that doesn’t allow (religious) believers, but now we are allowing it, it’s an important step,” Castro said.

Speaking about Francis, Castro said he has been “very impressed by his wisdom, his modesty, and all his virtues that we know he has.”

Castro had already publicly thanked Francis for helping to bring Havana and Washington closer together after decades of U.S. government policy of strict isolation of the Communist-ruled Caribbean island. On Sunday, he stepped up his praise on Francis’ push for the two nations to put enmity aside and work for reconciliation for the benefit of Americans and Cubans.

As he took his leave from the Vatican, Castro told journalists, “I thanked the pope for what he did.”

103 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 6:45:42pm

re: #96 freetoken

Our destroyers and cruisers are far from ‘sitting ducks’: They fairly bristle with weapons for engaging targets from missiles and aircraft, to small boats, to other ships, and to land targets.

104 GlutenFreeJesus  May 10, 2015 6:49:02pm

Made a double batch of peanut butter pie with a graham cracker crust. ;)

105 b.d.  May 10, 2015 6:50:35pm

re: #101 The Pie Mother

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You are an artist.

106 freetoken  May 10, 2015 6:50:48pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Mines.

Even missiles, though the CIWS and other short range defense might do ok against low flying missiles, there is little defense against a kamikaze-like attack from above. The Navy hasn’t faced enemies like that since WWII.

Even against torpedoes, the Russians at one point had some very large very fast ones which we never had to face in combat but in theory are very problematic.

107 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 6:51:03pm

re: #101 The Pie Mother

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That’s a Bunch ‘O Challah. I remember you saying that you were going through 10 pounds of flour. Why the mass bake?

RBS

108 William Lewis  May 10, 2015 6:55:41pm

re: #94 CuriousLurker

I don’t know squat about military stuff, so can anyone tell me if this is accurate?

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I’d be leary of an article like this one. Smells a lot like the maker of the Cyclone class is trying to gin up orders rather than worrying about the budget.

The flip side is the Navy does prefer larger ships, especially for operations far from our coasts. Look at the debate over the Destroyer Escorts of WWII that were hated by the US Navy because they were too small and too slow while the Royal Navy had the Flower class corvettes for their escorts that made the DE’s look huge and fast ;D

Personally I think they need to concentrate on one class of littoral combatants and possibly look at a newer class of patrol boats designed to work with them.

109 GlutenFreeJesus  May 10, 2015 6:56:11pm

re: #101 The Pie Mother

That stuff makes the best french toast… EVER.

110 Lord Of The Pies  May 10, 2015 6:57:21pm

re: #107 RealityBasedSteve

That’s a Bunch ‘O Challah. I remember you saying that you were going through 10 pounds of flour. Why the mass bake?

RBS

2 sons with their families (14 people total) coming for Memorial Day weekend, which is also Jewish festival of Shavuot.

111 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 10, 2015 6:59:17pm

re: #100 SteveMcGaziBolaGate

From my inexpert eye, I wonder how well the little toots can defend themselves in a real shooting war.

Speaking from experience now decades old, I believe that there’s something to be said for speed and maneuverability. It looks to me as though the Littoral Combat Ship suffers from the jack-of-all-trades syndrome. The Navy needed an updated patrol boat. What they have is a new class of vessels.

112 William Lewis  May 10, 2015 6:59:24pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Our destroyers and cruisers are far from ‘sitting ducks’: They fairly bristle with weapons for engaging targets from missiles and aircraft, to small boats, to other ships, and to land targets.

No, but the carriers probably are. In the long term we need to change the way we do them and the move to UAV’s will drive it. We might keep one or two traditional ones the way we kept the Iowa class but ships the size of the old escort carriers and submersible (while still operating the UAV assets) will be the future of naval aviation.

113 Charles Johnson  May 10, 2015 7:00:17pm
114 Dark_Falcon  May 10, 2015 7:00:23pm

re: #106 freetoken

Mines.

We have minesweepers. We also have Unmanned Underwater Vehicles (UUVs), drones which we use to hunt down and destroy mines.

I feel safe in saying mines are a threat the USN is prepared to cope with where Iran is concerned.

115 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 7:01:16pm

re: #110 The Pie Mother

2 sons with their families (14 people total) coming for Memorial Day weekend, which is also Jewish festival of Shavuot.

Got a brisket planned?

RBS

116 Great White Snark  May 10, 2015 7:01:16pm

re: #98 CuriousLurker

Oh hey, went out after some nearby pics today, thought maybe some Mothers Day flowers. Anyway got reminded about the bees. I seem to always get their worst angle.

117 Kragar  May 10, 2015 7:07:38pm

“Knowing what we know now, would you have authorized the invasion?” host Megyn Kelly asked the former Florida governor.

“I would have and so would Hillary Clinton,” Bush replied. “Just to remind everybody, so would everybody that was confronted with the intelligence that they got.”

Bush’s response was odd, since Kelly prefaced it with based upon “what we know now,” with most believing the invasion and following war to be a disaster.

118 Lord Of The Pies  May 10, 2015 7:08:23pm

re: #115 RealityBasedSteve

Got a brisket planned?

RBS

Oh yeah.

119 GlutenFreeJesus  May 10, 2015 7:09:57pm

re: #117 Kragar

Fuck you, Jeb.

120 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 7:10:11pm

I took a few pics of flowers in the yard today. From my liberal yard, here’s a bleeding heart.

121 Belafon  May 10, 2015 7:10:35pm

This is a sad story for sure, star-telegram.com, but I thought it’s interesting that the Fort Worth Star Telegram treats the engagement between the lesbian couple as any other engagement.

122 CuriousLurker  May 10, 2015 7:11:40pm

re: #116 Great White Snark

Oh hey, went out after some nearby pics today, thought maybe some Mothers Day flowers. Anyway got reminded about the bees. I seem to always get their worst angle.

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When my son called to wish me a happy Mother’s Day, we got to talking about cameras & photography because he’s working on a stop-motion animation for a class he’s taking. I told him about your news camera & 400mm lens and how envious I am, heh.

I really wish I had a touch screen—I hate having to push buttons to change the focus location. I also need to practice more and pay more attention to what I’m doing. Maybe I’ll try to go out this coming week and ONLY practice focusing, see how many images I can get razor sharp.

123 CuriousLurker  May 10, 2015 7:13:18pm

re: #120 makeitstop

I took a few pics of flowers in the yard today. From my liberal yard, here’s a bleeding heart.

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LOL, beautiful.

124 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  May 10, 2015 7:13:39pm

re: #117 Kragar

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I don’t think he listened to the question. I think he was anticipating the question you suggested and answered without realizing she said “what we know now.” I did the same thing on my finals when I jumped on a question I thought I had heard before and realized later it was a little different.

125 b_sharp  May 10, 2015 7:13:47pm

re: #120 makeitstop

I took a few pics of flowers in the yard today. From my liberal yard, here’s a bleeding heart.

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In our old place we had bleeding hearts for years. V just picked up some last week to plant here.

126 William Lewis  May 10, 2015 7:17:34pm

It’s a funny thing that now that I’ve started playing guitar, i’m noticing them more and paying more attention to the different types and different sounds. I dearly love the jangle of the single coils on my telecaster, but there’s a part of me that wants to play with BOC’ish twin humbuckers too. And then it doesn’t help when you see pretty things like this:

They’re worse than cameras, aren’t they?

127 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 7:18:37pm

And for a Sunday Animal Cutie…. an orangutan acts as a surrogate parent to a batch of tiger cubs.

…

RBS

128 BeenHereAwhile  May 10, 2015 7:18:39pm

@mashable: A videogame hacker was just punished by the game’s maker — with his character’s very public execution. t.co

129 Great White Snark  May 10, 2015 7:20:15pm

re: #122 CuriousLurker

Well call me old school but I can’t trust the preview screen. I’ll keep my viewfinder. Ever notice it’s harder to steady up for 1/30 or 1/60 without the grow on the pad at the viewfinder when handheld?

130 Amory Blaine  May 10, 2015 7:22:51pm

re: #126 William Lewis

Nice, I was actually looking at that one too. An “SG” for 300 bux? Get outta here!!

131 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 7:24:42pm

re: #129 Great White Snark

Well call me old school but I can’t trust the preview screen. I’ll keep my viewfinder. Ever notice it’s harder to steady up for 1/30 or 1/60 without the grow on the pad at the viewfinder when handheld?

and in harsh direct light conditions it’s hard to see the preview screen too. I’m looking at getting the electronic viewfinder for my Olympus Micro 4/3 bodies. That will give me sort of the best of both world.

Yea, image stabilization makes it a bit easier to hand hold, but I always liked that nice secure mount with your face / nose / cheek helping to stabilize the rig.

RBS

132 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 7:25:33pm

re: #126 William Lewis

It’s a funny thing that now that I’ve started playing guitar, i’m noticing them more and paying more attention to the different types and different sounds. I dearly love he jangle of the single coils on my telecaster, but there’s a part of me that wants to play with BOC’ish twin humbuckers too. And then it doesn’t help when you see pretty things like this:

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They’re worse than cameras, aren’t they?

One of those, your Tele, and a guitar with P90s, and you’re set.

And one with Filtertrons. :)

133 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 7:26:50pm

re: #132 makeitstop

One of those, your Tele, and a guitar with P90s, and you’re set.

And one with Filtertrons. :)

wouldn’t he also need an acoustic? and what about a 12 sting? /Stir_the_pot

RBS

134 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 7:27:36pm

re: #130 Amory Blaine

Nice, I was actually looking at that one too. An “SG” for 300 bux? Get outta here!!

The only problem with G-400s is weight distribution - the neck tends to ‘dive’ because of the relatively light weight of the body.

I have a G-400 in Pelham Blue. Cool guitar, but you have to keep a hand on the neck and/or get strap locks.

135 CuriousLurker  May 10, 2015 7:28:00pm

re: #129 Great White Snark

Well call me old school but I can’t trust the preview screen. I’ll keep my viewfinder. Ever notice it’s harder to steady up for 1/30 or 1/60 without the grow on the pad at the viewfinder when handheld?

I never use the viewfinder. Poor eyesight—everything is so small—and half the time I wouldn’t be able to get the shots I want if I had to hold the camera up to my eye.

136 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 7:28:45pm

re: #133 RealityBasedSteve

wouldn’t he also need an acoustic? and what about a 12 sting? /Stir_the_pot

RBS

Yes, and a Danelectro with ‘lipstick’ pickups, and a Rickenbacker with ‘toaster’ pickups.

The archtypical slippery slope, right there…

137 Amory Blaine  May 10, 2015 7:30:25pm

re: #133 RealityBasedSteve

Yes, a 12 string would look great on my wall I reckon. (You evil, evil man). I want a banjo and a dobro too.

138 Bear  May 10, 2015 7:31:57pm

I am so glad to see some of you posting photos you are taking with your cameras. One thing I miss were the pictures Charles posted on LGF. Also his stories about his bike rides.

139 b_sharp  May 10, 2015 7:33:03pm

I’m tortured over selling some of my axes, and you guys are talking about buying more. My addiction is crying out to me.

140 William Lewis  May 10, 2015 7:33:11pm

re: #136 makeitstop

Yes, and a Danelectro with ‘lipstick’ pickups, and a Rickenbacker with ‘toaster’ pickups.

The archtypical slippery slope, right there…

I keep getting people to tell me I need a archtop like an ES-335 too… LOL

141 Amory Blaine  May 10, 2015 7:33:24pm

I walked through the house playing Alice’s Restaurant on my Seagull with George marching behind me last night (sans kazoo). Dee Dee and her sis were laughing their asses off.

142 CuriousLurker  May 10, 2015 7:35:21pm

Cool video at the link:

143 Amory Blaine  May 10, 2015 7:35:49pm

Oh yes, and don’t forget about the semi-hollow body.

144 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 7:36:23pm

re: #140 William Lewis

I keep getting people to tell me I need a archtop like an ES-335 too… LOL

True.

Also, a baritone, a 7 string and a bass.

145 William Lewis  May 10, 2015 7:37:13pm

re: #134 makeitstop

The only problem with G-400s is weight distribution - the neck tends to ‘dive’ because of the relatively light weight of the body.

I have a G-400 in Pelham Blue. Cool guitar, but you have to keep a hand on the neck and/or get strap locks.

I’ve read about the neck heavy bit - how do strap locks help?

146 William Lewis  May 10, 2015 7:38:43pm

re: #144 makeitstop

True.

Also, a baritone, a 7 string and a bass.

Played bass in a punk band in high school. I’ve got my eye on a Squier 5 string for down the road ;D

147 b_sharp  May 10, 2015 7:38:46pm

re: #140 William Lewis

I keep getting people to tell me I need a archtop like an ES-335 too… LOL

I’m staring at my archtop right now. It’s the only one in the living room.

Ibanez
148 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 7:38:56pm

re: #136 makeitstop

Yes, and a Danelectro with ‘lipstick’ pickups, and a Rickenbacker with ‘toaster’ pickups.

The archtypical slippery slope, right there…

Yep… Same way I have 2 3 4 scuba regulator now, 3 buoyancy vests, 2 wet suits, a dry suit and 3 sets of fins. Only one 1 mask however… I’ve only found one particular brand that fits me well (especially with the ‘stache).

A lot of my stuff is Ebay / Craiglist / Facebook stuff that I’ve picked up, tried out, maybe worked on a bit, and in some cases sold off because it’s not what I needed, or I just wanted to try out something to get some experience with it.

RBS

149 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 7:39:37pm

re: #145 William Lewis

I’ve read about the neck heavy bit - how do strap locks help?

They’ll just ensure that the guitar won’t ‘slip the strap’ on a neck dive. I use a Planet Waves locking strap on mine, and I still freak a little when I feel the neck slipping towards the floor.

150 Romantic Heretic  May 10, 2015 7:42:10pm

re: #98 CuriousLurker

Hadn’t thought about the jobs aspect—thanks.

In most of the world now military design decisions are made for economic reasons. We’ll probably find that most of the weapons that come out of these decisions are like the tankettes that were popular between WWI and WWII or the Soviet T28 heavy tank. Look good on paper and on parade. Useless or worse in combat.

It’s what happens when a country hasn’t been at war for a long time. Let’s hope this sort of military silliness continues for a very long time.

151 GlutenFreeJesus  May 10, 2015 7:42:32pm

This is a bit NW of Des Moines IA right now. Missed any kind of news with what went through there but it looks pretty bad. :-/

152 b_sharp  May 10, 2015 7:43:06pm

re: #144 makeitstop

True.

Also, a baritone, a 7 string and a bass.

I have a Danelectro baritone.

153 The War TARDIS  May 10, 2015 7:46:41pm

I did like the event yesterday, though some Autistic tendencies of mine showed through.

I was one of the two youngest there. Still, considering I have far less social support, I see it as justified for me to be a little more active in searching, because I don’t have family to fall back on as much for support.

Hopefully, something will come through. I have relaxed a little, but I know the lack of emotional support otherwise will wear me down eventually. If I were to guess, in about 2 years.

154 BishopX  May 10, 2015 7:47:08pm

re: #112 William Lewis

So I know I’m a little late to the party here, but the point of aircraft carriers (and modern missile armed destroyers) is not to engage another nation’s navy. They’re used to project power into places that don’t have modern weapons. They do that very well.

As the European powers found out in WWI, projecting power on the periphery of an empire is a different thing than fighting a comparably equipped force. The US hasn’t had to deal with a well equipped military in almost a generation. The navy hasn’t had to deal with a well equipped adversary in 70 years. Whatever the war games and simulations describe, they’re going to get things wrong.

What I’m unclear of is the need to engage an adversary equipped with modern weapons. Anyone capable of producing those munitions is liable to be a nuclear power, at which point the capabilities of your surface ships are kind of irrelevant…

155 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 7:47:14pm

re: #147 b_sharp

I’m staring at my archtop right now. It’s the only one in the living room.

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That’s a pretty guitar! Artcore?

156 b_sharp  May 10, 2015 7:48:05pm

re: #155 makeitstop

That’s a pretty guitar? Artcore?

Yup.

157 Great White Snark  May 10, 2015 7:48:12pm

re: #135 CuriousLurker

Had no idea. I must admit I make full use of the diopter dial in that viewfinder.Old eyes.

158 Romantic Heretic  May 10, 2015 7:49:22pm

re: #106 freetoken

Mines.

Even missiles, though the CIWS and other short range defense might do ok against low flying missiles, there is little defense against a kamikaze-like attack from above. The Navy hasn’t faced enemies like that since WWII.

Even against torpedoes, the Russians at one point had some very large very fast ones which we never had to face in combat but in theory are very problematic.

Mines are one the most effective weapons ever produced.

Even just a few, like the airdropped magnetic mines that were laid in the Thames in WWII, can screw with military and civilian transport.

They tend to be ignored by military people because mine warfare isn’t ‘glorious’.

159 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 7:49:33pm

re: #156 b_sharp

Yup.

I like that one a lot. I’m noticing an extra knob - is that a blend control or a master volume?

The body reminds me of a Gibson ES-175.

160 b_sharp  May 10, 2015 7:50:09pm

re: #155 makeitstop

That’s a pretty guitar? Artcore?

I have a Fishman piezo archtop pickup on it.

161 b_sharp  May 10, 2015 7:51:53pm

re: #159 makeitstop

I like that one a lot. I’m noticing an extra knob - is that a blend control or a master volume?

The body reminds me of a Gibson ES-175.

It’s a blend control for the Fishman.

162 makeitstop  May 10, 2015 7:52:02pm

re: #160 b_sharp

I have a Fishman piezo archtop pickup on it.

Now, that’s wrinkle I hadn’t thought of! That must sound nice.

163 Romantic Heretic  May 10, 2015 7:52:44pm

re: #127 RealityBasedSteve

Awwww.

164 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 7:53:24pm

I was just playing with some numbers, and came across an interesting thing. Assuming a perfectly spherical Earth, with a circumference of 25000 miles. Now assume a cord with 0 elasticity that exactly circles the earth, just touching the surface and the two ends meet exactly. (assume the cord has 0 diameter for this exercise)

now add 3 feet to the cord at one end, and arrange the cord so that it’s equally spaced out around the circumference. Would it be a visible gap between the earth and the cord now?

The answer surprised me when I worked it out.

RBS

165 William Lewis  May 10, 2015 7:55:56pm

re: #147 b_sharp

I’m staring at my archtop right now. It’s the only one in the living room.

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Now that could tempt me that direction. Very pretty indeed!

166 freetoken  May 10, 2015 7:56:35pm

re: #164 RealityBasedSteve

Let me see if I get this straight - you want us to do math on a Sunday night>

167 b_sharp  May 10, 2015 7:56:50pm

re: #162 makeitstop

Now, that’s wrinkle I hadn’t thought of! That must sound nice.

Yup.

I also have a Roland GK-2 that fits on the bridge. It isn’t installed right now.

168 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 7:58:54pm

re: #166 freetoken

Let me see if I get this straight - you want us to do math on a Sunday night>

And for bonus points, what if you were doing it with a sphere with a 100 foot circumference? How would that affect the gap after adding the 3 feet to the cord? (that was the part that got me thinking)

RBS

169 Belafon  May 10, 2015 8:02:26pm

re: #164 RealityBasedSteve

A little under one foot six inches.

Diameter not radius.

170 BlueSpotinAL  May 10, 2015 8:04:58pm

Belafon I think it is a bit under half a foot.

171 Belafon  May 10, 2015 8:06:17pm

re: #168 RealityBasedSteve

Or a basketball. Or the universe, assuming it’s a closed sphere.

172 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 8:07:12pm

re: #169 Belafon

A little under one foot.

Yep, doesn’t matter if you’re going around a water tank or the earth, adding 36 inches to the circumfrance adds <12 inches to the diameter. The cord would have a 6 inch space between the surface and cord, regardless of the actual diameter you start with.

I understand that math behind it, but it is counter-intuitive to me. My guts tell me that 3 feet wouldn’t make a difference when dealing with something the size of the earth.

173 Romantic Heretic  May 10, 2015 8:08:42pm

re: #172 RealityBasedSteve

Makes sense. It’s the inverse of pi.

174 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 8:09:02pm

re: #171 Belafon

Or a basketball.

NBA or WNBA?

RBS

175 Belafon  May 10, 2015 8:09:25pm

re: #172 RealityBasedSteve

Yep, doesn’t matter if you’re going around a water tank or the earth, adding 36 inches to the circumfrance adds <12 inches to the diameter. The cord would have a 6 inch space between the surface and cord, regardless of the actual diameter you start with.

I understand that math behind it, but it is counter-intuitive to me. My guts tell me that 3 feet wouldn’t make a difference when dealing with something the size of the earth.

I wrestled with that one a lot, and I’ve added it to my list of things-to-keep-my-mind open. It’s also why “trust your instinct” or “common sense” has limited usefulness.

176 Belafon  May 10, 2015 8:12:58pm

re: #174 RealityBasedSteve

Or a baseball, or a penny, or a proton. (I’m feeling like Doctor Seuss.)

177 Belafon  May 10, 2015 8:15:07pm

re: #170 BlueSpotinAL

Belafon I think it is a bit under half a foot.

Yep, I forgot to divide by two.

178 freetoken  May 10, 2015 8:22:52pm

re: #175 Belafon

MP3 Audio

179 teleskiguy  May 10, 2015 8:23:46pm

Mother’s Day is coming to a close.

I’m all for having a day just for the moms. I hear childbirth is rather painful. And c’mon, good moms deserve to be recognized. They perform infinite thankless tasks to make sure their kin is taken care of. AMIRITE?!?

180 freetoken  May 10, 2015 8:31:12pm

re: #172 RealityBasedSteve

The diameter of a circle is proportional to the circumference.

Thus if you change the circumference by 3/(5280*25000) then the diameter will change by the same proportion.

181 freetoken  May 10, 2015 8:39:17pm

C1/C2 = D1/D2

25000/(25000+(3/5280)) = D1/D2

Thus D1/D2 = 0.999999977272728
or inverting
D2/D1 = 1.000000022727273

or D2 = 1.000000022727273 * D1

If D1=25000/π then

D2 = 1.000000022727273 * 25000/π

182 Charles Johnson  May 10, 2015 8:41:46pm
183 retired cynic  May 10, 2015 8:41:57pm

re: #181 freetoken

That is exactly why I didn’t major in math! And dropped out of my statistics master in less than one semester. Bleah!

184 CuriousLurker  May 10, 2015 8:47:11pm

Okay, this one is for the atheists:

…

Moved to a Page, where I should’ve put it in the first place.

185 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 8:50:22pm

re: #164 RealityBasedSteve

I was just playing with some numbers, and came across an interesting thing. Assuming a perfectly spherical Earth, with a circumference of 25000 miles. Now assume a cord with 0 elasticity that exactly circles the earth, just touching the surface and the two ends meet exactly. (assume the cord has 0 diameter for this exercise)

now add 3 feet to the cord at one end, and arrange the cord so that it’s equally spaced out around the circumference. Would it be a visible gap between the earth and the cord now?

The answer surprised me when I worked it out.

RBS

No, because you didn’t specify the cord as rigid and massless. Gravity will still pull it down. Also you need both zero elasticity and zero creep, they’re two different things.

=P

186 Amory Blaine  May 10, 2015 8:50:37pm

re: #167 b_sharp

Yup.

I also have a Roland GK-2 that fits on the bridge. It isn’t installed right now.

What are you going to run that pickup to?

187 William Lewis  May 10, 2015 8:54:40pm

One other question for guitar people here - anyone use a VHT Special tube amp? Designed as hand wired boutique amps but made in China for mass market prices. I’m seriously thinking about one when the tax refund gets here. The cheap one is 6 watts, the fancy one is 12 or 20 watts (high/low power & tube type) with spring reverb & tube tremolo built in.

vhtamp.com

188 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 8:54:49pm

re: #185 goddamnedfrank

No, because you didn’t specify the cord as rigid and massless. Gravity will still pull it down. Also you need both zero elasticity and zero creep, they’re two different things.

=P

well now you’re just being pedantic. :) I’m thinking that this might almost be some kind of a test that could be applied to Climate Change Deniers. If they can’t get the correct answer, then they can’t question the science behind CC.

RBS

189 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 8:58:10pm

re: #187 William Lewis

One other question for guitar people here - anyone use a VHT Special tube amp? Designed as hand wired boutique amps but made in China for mass market prices. I’m seriously thinking about one when the tax refund gets here. The cheap one is 6 watts, the fancy one is 12 or 20 watts (high/low power & tube type) with spring reverb & tube tremolo built in.

vhtamp.com

How “Loud” is a 12 watt amp? I know that there are a lot of things that factor in, but what kind of environment would that be appropriate for? A practice room, a small bar, a club, a dance hall? I’m asking because I really have no idea how those numbers you toss around factor into something a non-musician like me can grasp?

190 calochortus  May 10, 2015 8:59:29pm

re: #184 CuriousLurker

If my somewhat wine-addled brain is reading this correctly-yes, I agree that science does nothing to prove or disprove the existence of any supernatural being(s). You can be both devoutly religious and a competent scientist. Or an atheist and an equally competent scientist.

I’ve never seen evidence for the existence of a god so I’m an atheist, but I certainly can’t disprove the existence of god either.

191 blueraven  May 10, 2015 9:02:50pm

Oh boy, Seymour Hersh gonna cause a shitstorm with this.

The Killing of Osama bin Laden

lrb.co.uk

Basically what he says: (though haven’t finished the entire piece yet. It is long!)

Pakistan knew about Bin Laden raid, Saudis were aware of his whereabouts and were involved in protection because they were afraid he would talk about their financial support for Al-Qaeda

Osama wasn’t buried at sea, that was a hoax perpetrated by Obama.

Hersh is relying on an anonymous source for all of this.

192 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 9:03:29pm

re: #94 CuriousLurker

I don’t know squat about military stuff, so can anyone tell me if this is accurate?

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The Littoral Combat Ships have gotten a lot of opposition but the concept behind them is actually pretty sound given the nature of the contemporary threat the Navy faces. Their current surface warfare module is geared towards engaging the kinds of threats a country like Iran can field, ie lots of small swarm boats, not large modern naval powers. Their modular design and high power output also makes them a prime contender to mount a rail gun. Rail gun equiped LCSs will effectively resurrect the shore bombardment capability of the old battleships in a much more modern, distributed package. It’s actually one of the less fucked up Pentagon spending programs. They may not be as versatile and rapidly adaptable as originally advertised but there’s really little need for them to be.

193 retired cynic  May 10, 2015 9:04:18pm

re: #191 blueraven

I thought I heard that he was saying that months ago. Haven’t heard any proof, and I sincerely doubt him. And that’s too bad, because I used to admire him. Bad case of ODS, it seems to me.

194 Amory Blaine  May 10, 2015 9:04:55pm

re: #187 William Lewis

I like the 6 watt. I also like the 6 watt Ultra, extra settings will make it more versatile.

195 William Lewis  May 10, 2015 9:05:21pm

re: #189 RealityBasedSteve

12 watts is pretty loud. A church or small room gig easily. This model has an attenuator built in though so I could turn it down to about 1/2 watt for use in my trailer home without blowing the windows out :D That’s the size of the classic Fender Princeton Reverb I lust for.

20 watts is the classic Fender Deluxe Reverb class of amp - big enough for a theater/big bar gig.

196 CuriousLurker  May 10, 2015 9:06:24pm

re: #184 CuriousLurker

Okay, this one is for the atheists:

…

Moved to a Page, where I should’ve put it in the first place.

Moved my comment as it was too long for here.

197 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 9:06:34pm

re: #192 goddamnedfrank

Eventually, once we have a rail gun module for the LCS and network a bunch of them together for multiple round simultaneous impact operations whatever is on the receiving end is going to need to be dug in deep.

198 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 9:08:16pm

re: #195 William Lewis

12 watts is pretty loud. A church or small room gig easily. This model has an attenuator built in though so I could turn it down to about 1/2 watt for use in my trailer home without blowing the windows out :D That’s the size of the classic Fender Princeton Reverb I lust for.

20 watts is the classic Fender Deluxe Reverb class of amp - big enough for a theater/big bar gig.

Thanks. Now I’ve got a basis I can understand.

RBS

199 William Lewis  May 10, 2015 9:09:41pm

re: #194 Amory Blaine

I like the 6 watt. I also like the 6 watt Ultra, extra settings will make it more versatile.

The ultra makes the most sense to me. I just get tempted by the spring reverb tank on the 12/20 :D as I really am fond of reverb with the tele single coils.

200 austin_blue  May 10, 2015 9:13:41pm

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

Force Majeure, there is a good reason that insurance companies simply refuse to cover shit like that. What you propose is basically moral hazard personified, and as such the absolute antithesis of what we’d normally call economic conservatism. Except in modern practice this kind of “privatize the profits and socialize the risks” seems to be the conservative answer to everything. Why is that?

Because it maximizes shareholder value.

201 austin_blue  May 10, 2015 9:18:38pm

re: #101 The Pie Mother

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Challah? That makes me want to

Youtube Video

202 Jenner7  May 10, 2015 9:22:59pm

So Seymour Hersh is accusing Obama lying about the raid that killed OBL.

::yawn::

Dead is dead. How he did it, I don’t really give a damn.

203 jaunte  May 10, 2015 9:23:49pm



204 Kragar  May 10, 2015 9:25:25pm

re: #202 Jenner7

So Seymour Hersh is accusing Obama lying about the raid that killed OBL.

::yawn::

Dead is dead. How he did it, I don’t really give a damn.

205 William Lewis  May 10, 2015 9:36:03pm

It’s my night off so off to my appointment with my pillow. Later lizards.

206 blueraven  May 10, 2015 9:37:43pm

re: #202 Jenner7

So Seymour Hersh is accusing Obama lying about the raid that killed OBL.

::yawn::

Dead is dead. How he did it, I don’t really give a damn.

Noted that this was not published by the usual Hersh media outlets. The New Yorker or Washington Post. It is pretty thinly sourced. Maybe they aren’t buying it.

207 austin_blue  May 10, 2015 9:40:01pm

re: #184 CuriousLurker

Okay, this one is for the atheists:

In passing I saw a tweet that had a quote which I looked up and found was from a book by named The Moral Arc: How Science and Reason Lead Humanity toward Truth, Justice, and Freedom by a guy named Michael Shermer. I can’t even remember what the quote was now, but I looked up the author and it seems he’s an atheist.

On his website, which I ended up at via Wikipedia, he says the following (emphasis mine):

So I went back to his Wiki page and saw that a woman named Eugenie Scott, Director of the National Center for Science Education Director, had emphatically disagreed with him because the existence or non-existence of God isn’t testable and science is based on empirical evidence, being able to test things, and is limited to the natural world—i.e. science, scientific data, doesn’t compel any particular theological or philosophical belief.

At around the 42:00 mark she leads up to talking about Shermer (and Dawkins, et al.), and she actually mentions him beginning around 43:00:

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I went around looking for the definition of science/scientific methodology, and she appears to be 100% correct. So basically, I guess my point is that it seems there are some individual scientists who don’t think God exists, and there are skeptics/atheists who—based on scientific evidence (or rather the lack of it)—don’t think God exists because his existence is unnecessary to explain the natural world, but there’s nothing in science that says any such thing because religious belief and/or philosophy is not what science is about.

I’m not trying to pick a fight with you guys, I’m just saying that she makes sense, perfect sense. What she’s saying in the video is what I’ve (inelegantly) tried to express many times here—that science & religion have completely different methodologies & purposes and it therefore strikes me as rather absurd to try to prove or disprove one using (the methodology of) the other.

I’m really, really glad I found someone who can clearly articulate what I knew on a gut level had to be correct.

I haven’t watched all 87 minutes of her talk yet, but I’m very much looking forward to doing so soon.

That is all.

An atheist is as radical as any other fundamentalist. It takes a tremendous amount of faith to keep all those balls up in the air.

As an agnostic/Deist, I have no understanding of either group. Too damn much work.

Is there a God? Maybe yes, maybe no, but I see no evidence of an active God in our world. Unless he or she or it is, on the whole, a complete asshole.

208 Kragar  May 10, 2015 9:41:31pm

ICYMI

SNL takes on “Draw Mohammed”

…

209 Amory Blaine  May 10, 2015 9:43:00pm

re: #199 William Lewis

The 12/20 looks sweet too. I would only get that one if you are going to use the separate circuitry. It would depend also on which circuit the low 1 watt setting is on. Because if you aren’t going to use 20w much, I think the 6 watt would be a better choice.

Then you could get a pedal. :)

210 CuriousLurker  May 10, 2015 9:43:25pm

re: #207 austin_blue

Thanks for your input.

211 Jenner7  May 10, 2015 9:45:50pm

re: #206 blueraven

I believe the Washington Post did pass on the story.

212 Jenner7  May 10, 2015 9:50:34pm

Explosive, Controversial Report by Seymour Hersh Says Obama Administration Lied About Bin Laden Raid

slate.com

213 BeachDem  May 10, 2015 9:58:13pm

re: #211 Jenner7

I believe the Washington Post did pass on the story.

As did the New Yorker, I believe.

214 The War TARDIS  May 10, 2015 10:05:14pm

Taylor Swift may have gone just slightly overboard for her next music video.

Of course, if the song really is about Katy Perry, knowing about Perry’s background as coming from the Evangelical Christian community, I can make a good judgement of her being a terrible person, because I met many people of the same background in Colorado Springs, and with a few exceptions, they were bad people.

From ages 3 to 11, Perry often moved across the country as her parents set up churches before settling again in Santa Barbara. Growing up, she attended religious schools and camps, including Paradise Valley Christian School in Arizona and Santa Barbara Christian School in California during her elementary years.[3][9] Her family struggled financially,[10] sometimes using food stamps and eating from the food bank intended to feed the congregation at her parents’ church.[11]

Growing up, Perry and her siblings were not allowed to eat Lucky Charms as the term “luck” reminded their mother of Lucifer, and had to call deviled eggs “angeled eggs”.[12] Perry primarily listened to gospel music,[13] as secular music was generally discouraged in the family’s home. She discovered popular music through CDs she sneaked from her friends.[14] While not strictly identifying as religious, Perry has stated, “I pray all the time - for self-control, for humility.”

Not to mention, how she felt a need to announce publicly that she prays. I remember a verse from the Bible against that, but having no been Muslim for 4 years, I can’t remember it exactly.

215 Kragar  May 10, 2015 10:07:15pm

re: #212 Jenner7

Hersh writes that the American government did not act alone in locating and killing Bin Laden, as it has consistently claimed. On the contrary, Hersh’s sources say that senior generals of Pakistan’s army and Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI)—Pakistan’s equivalent of the CIA—knew as early as 2006 that Bin Laden was in Abbottabad, and cooperated with the U.S. in the assassination.

Gee, I can’t think of any reason given their internal issues with the Taliban and other fundamentalists why the Pakistanis might have preferred keeping their involvement under wraps.

216 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 10, 2015 10:09:35pm

re: #214 The War TARDIS

Earlier this week it was Mormons, now it is someone who was raised in the evangelical Christian community but certainly doesn’t publicly identify as one.

Your broad brush is going to keep getting you called out.

217 blueraven  May 10, 2015 10:09:38pm

re: #214 The War TARDIS

Taylor Swift may have gone just slightly overboard for her next music video.

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Of course, if the song really is about Katy Perry, knowing about Perry’s background as coming from the Evangelical Christian community, I can make a good judgement of her being a terrible person, because I met many people of the same background in Colorado Springs, and with a few exceptions, they were bad people.

Not to mention, how she felt a need to announce publicly that she prays. I remember a verse from the Bible against that, but having no been Muslim for 4 years, I can’t remember it exactly.

What utter bullshit.

218 The War TARDIS  May 10, 2015 10:10:17pm

re: #215 Kragar

Hersh has gone senile.

If Pakistan did cooperate with us, why did they throw a Doctor who helped us find OBL in prison?

This doesn’t even stand to the slightest degree of scrutiny.

219 The War TARDIS  May 10, 2015 10:18:43pm

re: #217 blueraven

I have met too many like her to think otherwise. Could she be better than I think yes.

Her background though? Indications point to no.

220 blueraven  May 10, 2015 10:20:10pm

re: #219 The War TARDIS

I have met too many like her to think otherwise. Could she be better than I think yes.

Her background though? Indications point to no.

Good night…I’m out.
But you need to grow the fuck up.

221 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 10, 2015 10:21:43pm

re: #219 The War TARDIS

I have met too many like her to think otherwise. Could she be better than I think yes.

Her background though? Indications point to no.

It is possible for people to overcome their backgrounds, and not be as horrible as you think they might be.

Likewise, it’s possible for good people to become bad ones. Don’t be one of those.

222 goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2015 10:24:20pm

re: #219 The War TARDIS

I have met too many like her to think otherwise. Could she be better than I think yes.

Her background though? Indications point to no.

This sentiment is substantially identical to the kind of shit Pamela Geller says. You’re being an immature ass.

223 BeachDem  May 10, 2015 10:34:18pm

re: #219 The War TARDIS

I have met too many like her to think otherwise. Could she be better than I think yes.

Her background though? Indications point to no.

Yeah, she sounds like a terrible person—

Perry has supported various charitable organizations and causes during her career. She has contributed to organizations aimed at improving the lives and welfare of children in particular…

she helped build and design the Boys Hope/Girls Hope foundation shelter for youth in Baltimore, Maryland… She has also supported children’s education… she teamed up with Staples Inc. for a project entitled “Make Roar Happen” which donated $1 million to DonorsChoose, an organization that supports teachers and funds classroom resources in public schools…

Perry has supported organizations aimed at aiding people suffering with diseases including cancer and HIV/AIDS…The proceeds from Perry’s single “Part of Me” were donated to the charity MusiCares, which helps musicians in times of need.[234] During her California Dreams Tour, she raised over $175,000 for the Tickets-For-Charity fundraiser…she helped raise $2.4 million for the Museum of Contemporary Art in Los Angeles…

Perry is a gay rights activist. She supported Stonewall during their “It gets better….. today” campaign to prevent homophobic bullying,[239] and dedicated the music video to her song “Firework” to the It Gets Better Project…and it goes on and on.

I wish there were more bad people like her.

224 teleskiguy  May 10, 2015 10:34:43pm

Hey ProLifeLiberal, eat a bag of dicks. Your self-righteousness is tired and boring. I don’t give a shit how you think you’re better than someone else because of their faith. Fuck you.

225 teleskiguy  May 10, 2015 10:35:57pm

I apologize. I don’t usually comment like that here. But I said what was necessary.

226 teleskiguy  May 10, 2015 10:41:10pm
227 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 10, 2015 10:41:53pm

re: #223 BeachDem

Thanks for tossing that in. I never had the impression Katy was a self-righteous, Bible thumper kind of “paper” Christian, and her public works show that.

Taylor is also very generous with her millions.

228 TedStriker  May 10, 2015 10:43:19pm

re: #214 The War TARDIS

Funny…you rail against others that you perceive to be judgmental and intolerant (typically, those who self-identify as evangelical Christians), even when you know fuck-all about them personally, yet you’ve shown yourself to have a judgmental and intolerant streak of your own a mile wide, many, many times here.

Sooner or later, Charles is going to tire of your half-cocked tirades (and the meaningless walkbacks that you give whenever you get called out) and have Stinky give you the business…just sayin’.

229 Jenner7  May 10, 2015 10:46:08pm
230 Jenner7  May 10, 2015 10:50:13pm

I’ve been mispronouncing Deray’s name all this time. Duh.

231 teleskiguy  May 10, 2015 10:53:37pm

Video

232 teleskiguy  May 10, 2015 11:01:31pm

Oy. Picture released by DPRK state media.

South Korea has said that North Korea’s recent test-firing of a ballistic missile from a submarine was “very serious and concerning”, and that it will respond “mercilessly” to the threat.

Pyongyang’s official KCNA news agency said on Saturday North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, oversaw the test-launch of the missile from an offshore location. Such a development could pose a new threat to the isolated country’s neighbours and the United States.

“(South Korea) will completely sever the chain of provocations by mercilessly dealing with any provocations,” South Korean Defence Minister Han Min-koo said in an emergency security meeting held on Monday to discuss the latest test, the Yonhap news agency reported.

233 freetoken  May 10, 2015 11:01:40pm

MP3 Audio

234 Kragar  May 10, 2015 11:05:13pm

re: #232 teleskiguy

The problem with NK remains the same as it has for the last 50 years.

Any sort of military action taken and you’re basically writing off Seoul’s 10 million people from the get go.

235 teleskiguy  May 10, 2015 11:14:41pm

re: #234 Kragar

I presume you’re speaking of military action against NK by the allies.

What’s up with this NK military dick waving? They’ve been doing that shit for as long as they’ve been the DPRK. What happens if Dear Leader wants to take military action against its neighbors? One would think that’s the ends to meet what with the decades-long military provocations.

That goddamned peninsula, man.

236 teleskiguy  May 10, 2015 11:23:57pm
237 Kragar  May 10, 2015 11:26:22pm
238 Nyet  May 10, 2015 11:34:28pm

re: #190 calochortus

If my somewhat wine-addled brain is reading this correctly-yes, I agree that science does nothing to prove or disprove the existence of any supernatural being(s).

If the claim about such a being is testable, then it doesn’t matter whether it’s supernatural or not.

239 Nyet  May 10, 2015 11:35:30pm

re: #207 austin_blue

An atheist is as radical as any other fundamentalist.

It’s ignorant bullshit though.

240 Varek Raith  May 10, 2015 11:38:15pm

I’m a radical?
Sweet.
/

241 Nyet  May 10, 2015 11:39:24pm

re: #240 Varek Raith

I’m a radical?
Sweet.
/

But are you free? /

242 teleskiguy  May 10, 2015 11:40:20pm

re: #240 Varek Raith

I’m a radical?
Sweet.
/

I know I’m a radical. Not only do I think cannabis should be legal I think it should be mandatory.*

*Bill Hicks said this, not me

243 Varek Raith  May 10, 2015 11:41:48pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

I know I’m a radical. Not only do I think cannabis should be legal I think it should be mandatory.*

*Bill Hicks said this, not me

Are You THC Deficient?

244 Nyet  May 10, 2015 11:41:49pm

If there is an idea that is extremely improbable but in the end unfalsifiable, someone who accepts this idea and someone who rejects it may both make assumptions, but in no way is the acceptance equal to the rejection. Which is exactly why I find the fundamentalist agnosticism so silly.

245 RealityBasedSteve  May 10, 2015 11:42:06pm

Well ladies and gents, I’m going to hang it up for the evening. Talk with ya all later on.

RBS

246 Varek Raith  May 10, 2015 11:43:11pm

re: #244 Nyet

If there is an idea that is extremely improbable but in the end unfalsifiable, someone who accepts this idea and someone who rejects it may both make assumptions, but in no way is the acceptance equal to the rejection. Which is exactly why I find the fundamentalist agnosticism so silly.

I dunno, I’m missing a lot of socks.
Damn gnomes.

247 teleskiguy  May 10, 2015 11:45:13pm

re: #244 Nyet

Wonderful wharbl-garble! My mind is neatly mashed with religious jargon and South Park underpants gnomes.

*work work work underpants underpants YAY*

248 The War TARDIS  May 10, 2015 11:45:47pm

Will not be back until June.

249 Nyet  May 10, 2015 11:50:23pm

One other thing that is silly about fundie agnosticism is that its adherents seem to apply their radical principles only to God. Why though? I mean, any claim is based on certain assumptions. “I am eating this donut”. But am I? Can one disprove the notion that one is really in a Matrix, or is a hallucinating Boltzmann brain, and thus not really eating the donut? No. So if we applied the fundie agnostic principles consistently, then both propositions are equal (or equally radical), and the fundie agnostic doesn’t know whether he is eating that donut (even while eating it).

250 teleskiguy  May 10, 2015 11:57:03pm

re: #248 The War TARDIS

Well that’s a little vague! What’s going on? Work? Travel? I mean, if it was something fun, I would want to share. We’re all fun hogs here at LGF.

Godspeed.

251 darthstar  May 11, 2015 12:15:44am

Went to Boston for the weekend to bury my wife’s uncle. Nice guy. Friended me on facebook soon after we met and when he saw that I posted a lot of music videos decided he’d found a new friend who shared a core belief - that music is sacred and should be appreciated at all times. I’d post a video, and he’d post an alternate version of said video, and three days later I’d receive three CDs he burned of bootleg Neil Young tracks or something similar.

Anyway, it was a beautiful service, and while I barely knew him, I was overwhelmed by the grief of all the people who were at the service, and at one point my wife looked at me and found some comic relief in the fact that I was openly weeping - fuck…I really couldn’t help it.

Also cool to learn - he threw three no-hitters as a pitcher in high-school/college.

252 darthstar  May 11, 2015 12:20:40am

Posting this here so when I buy it tomorrow Charles gets a cut.

Buy a copy for yourself too!

amazon.com

253 freetoken  May 11, 2015 12:34:27am

MP3 Audio

254 freetoken  May 11, 2015 12:35:12am

I’m experimenting… are people able to hear the previous mp3?

255 freetoken  May 11, 2015 12:35:55am

Or, are you only able to get the first 50 seconds or so?

256 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 12:36:03am

re: #252 darthstar

Tell me what I’m buying!

257 darthstar  May 11, 2015 12:38:04am

re: #256 Amory Blaine

Tell me what I’m buying!

A copy of Newsweek’s attempt to cut losses and reflect a profit at the expense of Deadheads.

258 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 12:39:23am

re: #257 darthstar

Good enough for me.

259 Varek Raith  May 11, 2015 12:40:14am

Isn’t that cute…

260 darthstar  May 11, 2015 12:41:11am

“The Definitive 50-Year Tribute” - Fuckers - what they’re really saying is, “Nobody could have predicted a bunch of hippies would grow up to have so much disposable wealth.”

261 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 12:41:29am

Oops. This came along for the ride.

262 teleskiguy  May 11, 2015 12:42:02am

re: #255 freetoken

The mp3 is only 50 seconds long on my end.

263 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 11, 2015 12:43:13am

re: #254 freetoken

I’m experimenting… are people able to hear the previous mp3?

Me, no, but I live behind the Great Firewall of China. YMMV

264 Varek Raith  May 11, 2015 12:43:57am

re: #254 freetoken

I can hear it.

265 freetoken  May 11, 2015 12:45:22am

re: #262 teleskiguy

Ok, thanks.

There is no end of mp3s on the internet, but I find that more and more of them won’t allow one to stream mp3s off their servers anymore.

266 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 11, 2015 12:46:13am

re: #265 freetoken

Ok, thanks.

There is no end of mp3s on the internet, but I find that more and more of them won’t allow one to stream mp3s off their servers anymore.

bandwidth issues, maybe

267 freetoken  May 11, 2015 12:47:08am

Anyone, here is the piece for which I’ve been looking for an mp3, but to no avail, at least that can be embedded.

Yet it is on Youtube.

Everything is on Youtube, but for some reason Google seems to get a pass from many originators.

…

268 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 12:47:14am

Basically, online interaction with conservatives devolves into a “baby killing” commie position every time.

269 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 11, 2015 12:49:27am

re: #267 freetoken

Anyone, here is the piece for which I’ve been looking for an mp3, but to no avail, at least that can be embedded.

Yet it is on Youtube.

Everything is on Youtube, but for some reason Google seems to get a pass from many originators.

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Google/YouTube works on the “don’t ask permission first, apologize later” principle. The Economist had an article about it recently.
economist.com

The second is the power of network effects: there are huge incentives to get to the market early and grow as quickly as possible, even if it means risking legal challenges. Benjamin Edelman of Harvard Business School argues that YouTube owes its success in part to this strategy. When it launched in 2005, it was one of dozens of video sites competing for both content and viewers. Some, such as Google Video, diligently screened each video for copyright infringement. YouTube was more risk-taking, waiting for copyright owners to complain before taking down videos. The strategy worked: Google bought it for $1.65 billion in stock in 2006; and YouTube, which has just celebrated its tenth anniversary, is now huge, whereas many early rivals have faded away.

270 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 1:12:57am
271 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 1:25:29am

James Rowen begins the week brilliantly

Walker schedules Wisconsin drop-in later this week

Walker returns from his junket to Israel on Thursday - - maybe a bit jet-lagged, such are the burdens facing Mideast experts-in-training - - but it looks like he’ll have just enough time to finally grab one of his patented ham sandwiches after a pork-products-free week, show staffers some travel snapshots, try out his new anti-terror talking points on the home state media and maybe, if time allows, to check in with legislators about his floundering budget, NBA arena financing plan and underfunded transportation program.

But then…duty calls…and it’s back on the jet to Iowa for Priority #1 - - more GOP politicking and fundraising - - according to a website that tracks all potential 2016 candidates’ time in for what is truly Hog Heaven for Walker: Iowa:
Gov. Scott Walker is scheduled to visit Iowa on May 16, 2015. He plans to attend a Blue Jean Bash hosted by Dallas County Record Chad Airhart on Turnberry Drive in West Des Moines [at the former Elwell home (“central Iowa’s most expensive home”)]; attend a fundraiser for state Rep. John Landon at The Pinnacle Club in Ankeny; and in the evening will speak at the Republican Party of Iowa’s Lincoln Dinner in Des Moines.

272 Nyet  May 11, 2015 1:40:27am

re: #271 Amory Blaine

after a pork-products-free week

An unwarranted assumption.

273 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 1:48:10am

re: #272 Nyet

This is true. I will limit my brilliant grade to the title.

274 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 2:00:36am

re: #272 Nyet

Did you ever watch The Lost?

275 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 11, 2015 2:03:02am

I kind of hope they do nominate Walker. The disastrous results of his tenure in Wisconsin would be spotlighted for people who don’t obsessively follow the political news like we do. His ownership by the Koch brothers, and the baleful effects of Citizens united would also be discussed prominently, and comparisons with Brownback, Launer, Kasich, Snyder, etc. wouldn’t be missing either.

I think it would be an education for voters who don’t really hang on the political news—much more so than some referendum on Bush vs. Clinton would be.

276 Nyet  May 11, 2015 2:03:48am

re: #274 Amory Blaine

No, not yet.

277 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 2:04:29am

re: #276 Nyet

Please recommend something.

278 Nyet  May 11, 2015 2:05:50am

re: #277 Amory Blaine

Horror?

279 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 2:06:36am

Of course.

280 Nyet  May 11, 2015 2:07:44am

re: #279 Amory Blaine

Seen Martyrs?

281 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 2:08:17am

Oh yes.

282 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 2:12:37am

…

283 Nyet  May 11, 2015 2:15:06am

It’s really hard to recommend a horror film to a horror flick buff. You’ve probably seen everything I could offer :D

284 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 2:15:25am

One of my favorite horror movie is Ghost Story. Alice Krige? Get outta town.

285 Nyet  May 11, 2015 2:23:42am

The Skin I Live In?

286 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 2:25:29am

Thanks, this is new to me.

287 Nyet  May 11, 2015 2:26:02am

Not horror per se, but IMHO worth seeing.

288 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 2:36:23am

…

289 Nyet  May 11, 2015 2:37:18am

bloody-disgusting.com

Will Poulter (pictured below; Maze Runner, We’re the Millers) is in negotiations to play Pennywise, the evil monster who lured in children disguised as a clown, in the upcoming remake of Stephen King’s horror classic It, says Variety.

290 Amory Blaine  May 11, 2015 2:43:29am

“I will take you places you’ve never been. I will show you things you have never seen and I will see the life run out of you.”

291 freetoken  May 11, 2015 2:49:26am

re: #288 Amory Blaine

One of the few Astaire movies I’ve never seen.

292 freetoken  May 11, 2015 2:53:19am

Astaire did lots of TV after his song and dance days were over. I think Finian’s Rainbow was his last real performance as the old Fred.

MP3 Audio

293 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 2:53:44am

re: #275 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I concur.

Both Bush and Walker would be disasters if elected, but Walker would be even worse.

294 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 2:54:55am

re: #292 freetoken

Ginger Rogers (and any of his female partners) were better. They had to perform those moves backwards—and in high heels.

295 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 2:57:17am

Well, this ought to start something. Terrific. ///

Libyan military spokesman says Turkish vessel was bombed after it was warned not to approach Libyan city of Derna - @Reuters
end of alert

296 Nyet  May 11, 2015 3:09:11am

Well, The Human Centipede 3 poster looks… promising. ////

Image: The_Human_Centipede_3_Poster.jpg

297 Dave In Austin  May 11, 2015 3:17:57am
298 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 3:21:57am

re: #296 Nyet

Well, The Human Centipede 3 poster looks… promising. ////

Image: The_Human_Centipede_3_Poster.jpg

Ugh. Tom Six has got to be the most abhorrent film maker ever.

Human Centipede III - the most abhorrent film ever?

bbc.com

Nothing “satanic” about it, just his twisted imagination, esp using Eric Roberts as the “star” name.

299 Nyet  May 11, 2015 3:24:28am

re: #298 Justanotherhuman

He’s making money.

300 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 3:36:07am

re: #299 Nyet

He’s making money.

The reaction is more telling than the movie.

301 Nyet  May 11, 2015 3:42:50am

re: #300 Justanotherhuman

The first movie was actually an OK horror flick.
The second was gore and sadism for the sake of gore and sadism.
I will actually watch the third one too.

This reminds me of another horror flick, Feast. The first film was pretty original and fun. The next two parts though looked nothing like the first one (though made by the same director) and were outrageous just for the sake of being outrageous.

302 Romantic Heretic  May 11, 2015 3:43:57am

re: #246 Varek Raith

I dunno, I’m missing a lot of socks.
Damn gnomes.

It’s not gnomes. It’s your clothes drier. The dryer transmogrifies them into wire coat hangers and teleports those hangers to your closets.

It’s why you always have missing socks and more coat hangers than you remember buying.

303 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 3:49:27am
304 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 3:52:58am
305 Nyet  May 11, 2015 3:55:11am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kazakhstan, eh. So Borat was a documentary after all.////

306 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 4:08:31am

Haha, this is for Nyet, also.

307 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 4:26:41am

The devil made me do it.

School director makes racial comments during graduation

king5.com

308 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 4:34:29am
309 Thanos  May 11, 2015 4:35:19am

There was a great article the other day from AP on the disconnect between the politicians in FL and the municipalities that have to deal with sea level rise. Pete Sinclair picked it up here:

climatecrocks.com

310 Thanos  May 11, 2015 4:35:55am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

Starbucks did too until a Mother Jones article, then they changed that.

311 freetoken  May 11, 2015 5:03:28am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

For some reason, on the face of it, I don’t see that as being a really big problem.

Too much water used in Sacramento? Well, how much water is wasted washing out a drinking cup, versus just drinking water from a bottle?

Worried about energy? Then for someone in northern California, driving bottle water from say Washington state, or pumping water from up north, probably would use many times more energy than bottling water locally.

312 Doofus  May 11, 2015 5:06:18am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

We in the United States take potable drinking water for granted. I’m really not sure where they are going with this article.

Sacramento sells water to a bottler, DS Services of America, at 99 cents for every 748 gallons—the same rate as other commercial and residential customers. That water is then bottled and sold at Walmart for 88 cents per gallon, meaning that $1 of water from Sacramento turns into $658.24 for Walmart and DS Services.

Now technically they did not mention profit, but I am sure there is some cost to produce and deliver this fine reverse osmosis drinking water. I’m also pretty sure that there is quite of bit of fuel being burned to truck water in from Pennsylvania if they chose to take the Starbucks route. Where I live not everyone is on a municipal water supply and have to depend on well water, well water of a very low quality taste (sulfur etc.), so they depend on this fine reverse osmosis drinking water.

313 Decatur Deb  May 11, 2015 5:15:00am

re: #312 Doofus

We in the United States take potable drinking water for granted. I’m really not sure where they are going with this article.

Now technically they did not mention profit, but I am sure there is some cost to produce and deliver this fine reverse osmosis drinking water. I’m also pretty sure that there is quite of bit of fuel being burned to truck water in from Pennsylvania if they chose to take the Starbucks route. Where I live not everyone is on a municipal water supply and have to depend on well water, well water of a very low quality taste (sulfur etc.), so they depend on this fine reverse osmosis drinking water.

Of all the uses of water in a modern city, drinking it has probably the least impact. One load of laundry is drinking water for the house for a week. One lawn watered is off-scale.

315 Decatur Deb  May 11, 2015 5:24:01am

re: #314 The Pie Mother

LOOK AT THESE CELEBRITIES & THERE GREEN LAWNS!!!!!!

Tampa area has done good things with grey-water recycling systems for lawns and agri uses. It takes an investment and maintenance, though.

316 lawhawk  May 11, 2015 5:26:15am

re: #313 Decatur Deb

California’s drought and the subsequent water regulations are pretty bad, but California is hardly the state where the water situation is dire. That goes to Arizona and Nevada in particular, which have little leeway and lack the water resources of California (which at least gets a significant portion of water from the Sierra Nevada range. Arizona and Nevada get a significant portion of their water from the Colorado River, and they’re both sucking it bone dry - and Lake Mead and Lake Powell are running towards historic lows.

So, with expected population increases and higher demand, those states have to figure out what to do - either limit water usage, population growth, or enact draconian regulations. So far, they’re going with some limits on water usage, and tapping underground aquifers as much as possible, depleting those at rates not seen before.

This is what happens when you live in a desert. You rely on limited water supplies, and when they’re gone, so too goes the people. You can only ship in so much water from elsewhere, especially when upstream water supplies are also dwindling. The entire Southwest is parched, and there’s no end in sight to that.

To address this would mean a sea change in the landscape - eliminating lawns, golf courses, and much of the agriculture. Heck, you’d probably have to eliminate a bunch of data centers too, which rely on water for cooling purposes. And it’s the changes with agriculture that would be most disruptive since we get a whole load of agricultural items from the Southwest and California - higher costs for everyone, more limited supplies, and the need to shift where food is grown in the country. It would also likely result in shifting population centers towards those areas where agriculture is more sustainable.

317 Decatur Deb  May 11, 2015 5:26:40am

Dogwalk—he didn’t get one for 4 days. BBL.

318 Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2015 5:32:37am

re: #230 Jenner7

I’ve been mispronouncing Deray’s name all this time. Duh.

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So had I.

319 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 5:36:53am

re: #312 Doofus

We are on a well, also (few in this county have county water). But we don’t drink it and depend on bottled water for drinking, also, and I no longer drink “spring water”, either. I just called the chain we get it from and the person I talked with couldn’t get that info right off the bat. It just says “Product of USA” on pkg. So she has to turn it over to a “researcher” and get back to me.

Wells can be very different. When I moved from my son’s house (also on a well), after shampooing my hair here, it felt different than it did there; I attributed that to different minerals, or more or less, in the water.

320 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 5:36:59am

TCOT having a ragegasm because it is a Day ending in Y, also because Hillary suggested paid maternity leave (like other countries that are not the exception US have)

321 freetoken  May 11, 2015 5:43:18am

File under “Now this is interesting…”:

DNA test proves twins have different fathers

A New Jersey father has been ordered to pay child support for one girl in a set of twins after DNA tests proved he is not the father of both, according to court documents.

The mother testified in a paternity case that, within a week’s time, she had sexual intercourse with two men — the man genetic tests confirmed as the father and another unidentified man.

[…]

“This is a case of first impression in New Jersey and only a handful of reported cases exist nationwide,” Superior Court Judge Sohail Mohammed said in his ruling.

The mother of 2-year-old twins went to court seeking child support from the father of the child. Neither party is named in court documents.

[…]

322 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 5:47:31am

re: #316 lawhawk

Well, it just never made sense to me that people in the desert should have lawns. Use native plantings instead.

In this area, you used to see a lot of dogwood trees and azalea bushes (native to this area) in people’s yards, when there was a lot of housing going up in the 50s and 60s; dogwoods grow wild in the woods right behind me. That’s no longer the case since people are going to garden centers and demanding plants not even native to this area, such as hibiscus. I’ve even seen palm trees on the lake, and at a car dealership on the main rd. Don’t know how long they’ll last with the kind of winter we had this past year, and the growth seems to be stunted.

323 lawhawk  May 11, 2015 5:50:32am

re: #322 Justanotherhuman

I hear ya. The garden centers here in the NYC metro area are having to deal with two simultaneous issues - harsh winters and hot summers, meaning that we’re getting to a point where lots of greenery that would be able to handle winters aren’t taking the summers too well, and vice versa. The garden center by us is saying that if this goes on this coming winter that they’ll have to reshuffle their mix of shrubs they offer next year because too much isn’t making it through the winters despite the zone we’re in.

324 GlutenFreeJesus  May 11, 2015 5:51:16am

Yikes. Here’s video of that school in Iowa being hit. Apparently here were people inside just before that and the school was evacuated.

wgntv.com

325 wrenchwench  May 11, 2015 5:54:16am

re: #320 The Pie Mother

TCOT having a ragegasm because it is a Day ending in Y, also because Hillary suggested paid maternity leave (like other countries that are not the exception US have)

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Say goodbye to every woman working for a small business.

Say goodbye to getting hired by a woman in her small business, Mr. Sager.

326 GlutenFreeJesus  May 11, 2015 5:55:07am

re: #305 Nyet

327 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 6:02:23am
328 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 6:04:53am

re: #321 freetoken

So—was this result of no condoms or condoms that broke, I wonder?

We need more sex ed that sticks. I don’t care about people’s sexual habits, but for crying out loud, let’s have more sex ed out there along with readily available birth control itself, not less.

329 wrenchwench  May 11, 2015 6:05:16am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Now that looks safe, once they repave it.

330 ObserverArt  May 11, 2015 6:08:37am

Morning all.

Looks like I’ll need to keep an eye on the sky today. The weather folks are saying Ohio, Indiana, Michigan and Western Pennsylvania all are in play for nasty storms, maybe tornadoes late today into tonight.

I wonder if “Snowball” Inhofe is going to do any more fun weather examples for congress. He gets his choice today. Let’s see, record late snowfalls in the upper states and down into Colorado, monsoons and tornadoes in Texas and the Midwest wheat belt and an early tropical storm hitting the east coast before tropical storm season.

Yeah, nothing drastic about the weather these days. Nothing indicating the global climate is a mess. WTF???

331 wrenchwench  May 11, 2015 6:18:26am

Over the weekend, a local doctor was hit while on his bicycle. He was helicoptered to the same city I was, but I don’t think to the same hospital. He and his family were my best customers for many years, up until the doc and his wife got a divorce a few years back. Around the same time as the divorce, the doc’s son worked for me one summer. The doc’s father is the judge in the state’s case against the woman who hit me. They caught the woman who hit the doc (she had fled) and she’s in jail.

I think the doc is not as bad off as I was, but with more broken bones. I hope he gets well soon.

332 Snarknado!  May 11, 2015 6:20:28am

re: #322 Justanotherhuman

Young palm trees grow their crown to nearly full size before the trunk goes up, so they look like spherical bushes a couple of feet off the ground for a while.

333 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 6:25:50am

re: #332 Snarknado!

Those I’ve seen around here are probably 10 ft tall, but they’re looking mighty poorly, compared to what I was used to seeing when living in south FL as a kid, and they’re not growing any taller, Maybe they’re a “special breed”. : )

334 freetoken  May 11, 2015 6:26:41am

Here’s your “constitutional conservatives” in action:

Ben Carson: US should rethink Supreme Court review of laws

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson says the United States should rethink the notion that a president must enforce laws the Supreme Court declares constitutional.

Carson said Sunday “we need to discuss” the court’s long-held power to review laws passed by Congress. That authority was established in the 1803 landmark case Marbury v. Madison.

[…]

335 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  May 11, 2015 6:27:25am

re: #207 austin_blue

An atheist is as radical as any other fundamentalist. It takes a tremendous amount of faith to keep all those balls up in the air.

As an agnostic/Deist, I have no understanding of either group. Too damn much work.

Is there a God? Maybe yes, maybe no, but I see no evidence of an active God in our world. Unless he or she or it is, on the whole, a complete asshole.

As an apatheist, I have no fucks to give whether there is a god or gods or not. However, I am dead set in opposition to any god that may exist.

336 freetoken  May 11, 2015 6:27:54am

re: #333 Justanotherhuman

I’ve been seeing palms (they are not trees) showing up in videos from places like North Carolina and Oklahoma, making me wonder just how they go there.

337 freetoken  May 11, 2015 6:30:01am

Apparently he has a big appetite:

Report: Christie racked up $82,594 bill at sport stadium

Chris Christie racked up a $82,594 bill at the concessions operator at MetLife Stadium during the 2010 and 2011 football seasons, the New Jersey Watchdog reported on Monday as part of a broader look at how the New Jersey governor spent $360,000 of his state allowance over five years.

The New Jersey governor spent $300,000 of that amount on food and alcohol, the report said, and pointed to the stadium bill as the most notable spending spree.

[…]

338 Timothy Watson  May 11, 2015 6:30:20am

re: #334 freetoken

Here’s your “constitutional conservatives” in action:

Ben Carson: US should rethink Supreme Court review of laws

Alexander Hamilton’s rolling over in his grave.

339 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 6:31:08am

Doesn’t mean gas prices will stabilize all that much, though. Ten years can bring on more gas taxes, as well.

OPEC says oil prices will stay below $100 per barrel until at least 2025 - @CNBC
read more on cnbc.com

340 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 6:32:42am

re: #334 freetoken

Obviously he wants himself, or someone else in that Klown Kar, to be dictator.

341 Feline Fearless Leader  May 11, 2015 6:32:45am

re: #333 Justanotherhuman

Those I’ve seen around here are probably 10 ft tall, but they’re looking mighty poorly, compared to what I was used to seeing when living in south FL as a kid, and they’re not growing any taller, Maybe they’re a “special breed”. : )

If they start uprooting and walking south in cold weather they might no longer be palm trees.
///

342 lawhawk  May 11, 2015 6:33:08am

re: #334 freetoken

Judicial review and 230+ years of constitutional jurisprudence should be tossed aside by some nutjob right winger who thinks that he should be president because reasons.

The same way that the right wing was all for judicial review when the outcome was Hobby Lobby or Citizens United or even repealing a portion of Obamacare re: exchanges, they’ll demand it cease to exist when the same Court finds reason to uphold other provisions or invalidate right wing fever dreams.

343 Snarknado!  May 11, 2015 6:35:09am

re: #333 Justanotherhuman

When I was in the South Pacific, I learned a bit about them. Apparently they’re very hardy (so they survive in the awful soils of coral atolls). And I just checked online, and it seems some are also cold-tolerant.

344 Feline Fearless Leader  May 11, 2015 6:35:35am

re: #335 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

As an apatheist, I have no fucks to give whether there is a god or gods or not. However, I am dead set in opposition to any god that may exist.

I’m a hopeful atheist since I’d rather humanity be responsible for its own evil, and thus possibly capable of addressing it. And the alternative is essentially being some sort of glorified lab rat, or vermin.

345 Lancelot Link  May 11, 2015 6:35:42am

re: #320 The Pie Mother

TCOT having a ragegasm because it is a Day ending in Y, also because Hillary suggested paid maternity leave (like other countries that are not the exception US have)

As far as I can tell, these are all the nations in the world that do not have paid maternal leave;
Lesotho
Swaziland
Suriname
Papua New Guinea
and the United States Of America.

346 Targetpractice  May 11, 2015 6:37:14am

I’m really beginning to wonder if he’s actively sabotaging his own campaign.

347 Lidane  May 11, 2015 6:37:17am

re: #334 freetoken

Here’s your “constitutional conservatives” in action:

Ben Carson: US should rethink Supreme Court review of laws

I really, truly wish that people would stop treating Ben Carson like a serious political thinker or serious Presidential candidate. The guy makes unserious idiots like Trump and Fiorina look like policy wonks.

After the shitstorm that the GOP has kicked up since 2008 about Obama’s supposed lack of experience, they’re not going to nominate Carson. They’re not going to choose a man who’s never even run for his local school board to be their candidate for the highest office in the country. They’re just not.

348 Lidane  May 11, 2015 6:38:16am

re: #346 Targetpractice

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I’m really beginning to wonder if he’s actively sabotaging his own campaign.

Maybe he wants the GOP to lose for a third time so they’ll finally kick the crazy people to the curb.

349 Snarknado!  May 11, 2015 6:38:27am

re: #341 Feline Fearless Leader

If they start uprooting and walking south in cold weather they might no longer be palm trees.
///

OMIGOD! Triffids!

:)

350 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 6:39:25am

“Something I want you all to think about is that the next president of the United States, whoever that individual may be, could choose up to three, maybe even four members of the Supreme Court,” he said. “Now this isn’t about who’s going to be the president of the United States for just the next four years. This could be about individuals who have an impact on you, your children, and even our grandchildren. That’s the weight of what this election is really about.”

“That, I will suggest to you, is the real question we need to be asking ourselves,” he continued. “What would those justices look like if, let’s be theoretical here and say, if it were Hillary Clinton versus Rick Perry? And if that won’t make you go work, if I do decide to get into the race, then I don’t know what will.”

please proceed, Rick…

351 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 6:41:03am

re: #336 freetoken

I’ve been seeing palms (they are not trees) showing up in videos from places like North Carolina and Oklahoma, making me wonder just how they go there.

They get them from places like this: paradisepalmsnc.com

352 lawhawk  May 11, 2015 6:43:08am

This is what passes as journalism. Both on Hersch’s part for such a thinly sourced and ridiculously inconsistent narrative, and for CNN thinking that they should put his story up (though it’s all for eyeballs, not veracity).

353 freetoken  May 11, 2015 6:43:29am

re: #351 Justanotherhuman

Most palms become rather ugly, in my opinion, except for those which stay short, which are not the ones many people plant.

Around here the Mexican fan palm is a weed, reproduces like crazy, and is difficult to eradicate. And we don’t have enough hot days to make the dates on the date palms any good, so those are a miss too.

354 ObserverArt  May 11, 2015 6:44:47am

re: #345 Lancelot Link

As far as I can tell, these are all the nations in the world that do not have paid maternal leave;
Lesotho
Swaziland
Suriname
Papua New Guinea
and the United States Of America.

See! More American exceptionalism. What other big country is on that list? None. There you go.

355 lawhawk  May 11, 2015 6:45:22am

re: #347 Lidane

Same with Carly Fiorina, who’s trying to claim that she left HP at a time when it was the largest computer maker and segment leader.

She presided over the merger with Compaq (the decision to do that was made before she took over), and then launched products like a tablet that ended up costing the company billions when they didn’t sell.

And there’s no way around fact that she was fired from HP. She can gloss that over all she likes, but her business record is awful, and if that’s the best she can claim, then she’s not suited to be even dog catcher.

356 Great White Snark  May 11, 2015 6:46:27am

So self declared constitutional consertvative comes out to get rid of key check on legislative power. Well that may be a self declared conservative but it’s really just a would be dictator in costume.

357 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 6:47:19am

re: #353 freetoken

Most palms become rather ugly, in my opinion, except for those which stay short, which are not the ones many people plant.

Around here the Mexican fan palm is a weed, reproduces like crazy, and is difficult to eradicate. And we don’t have enough hot days to make the dates on the date palms any good, so those are a miss too.

It’s all about the hype of making your own locale a “paradise” in case you don’t have the money to travel to real tropical climes. It preys on the dissatisfaction and unreal expectations of people.

358 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 6:50:33am

re: #357 Justanotherhuman

It’s all about the hype of making your own locale a “paradise” in case you don’t have the money to travel to real tropical climes. It preys on the dissatsifaction and unreal expectations of people.

Same thing can be said about a lot of people who try to grow tomatoes.

:D

359 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 6:50:53am

re: #355 lawhawk

Same with Carly Fiorina, who’s trying to claim that she left HP at a time when it was the largest computer maker and segment leader.

She presided over the merger with Compaq (the decision to do that was made before she took over), and then launched products like a tablet that ended up costing the company billions when they didn’t sell.

And there’s no way around fact that she was fired from HP. She can gloss that over all she likes, but her business record is awful, and if that’s the best she can claim, then she’s not suited to be even dog catcher.

Actually animal control officer (formerly known as dog catcher) requires special skill in trapping and handling wild, feral & possibly rabid animals. It is not a “low level political office” I wish people would stop saying “couldn’t get elected dog catcher” since this is actually a highly skilled profession.

360 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 6:52:29am

Why don’t the Konservatives just stand up, be honest and admit they don’t believe in the separation of powers and what the Constitution actually says?

Because that would be admitting they don’t believe in what they claim to believe.

Lying theocrats.

361 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 6:52:37am

re: #355 lawhawk

Same with Carly Fiorina, who’s trying to claim that she left HP at a time when it was the largest computer maker and segment leader.

She presided over the merger with Compaq (the decision to do that was made before she took over), and then launched products like a tablet that ended up costing the company billions when they didn’t sell.

And there’s no way around fact that she was fired from HP. She can gloss that over all she likes, but her business record is awful, and if that’s the best she can claim, then she’s not suited to be even dog catcher.

Carly CEOsplained her layoff of 30K American workers with the lame excuse IT WAS TEH BIGGEST TECH RECESSION IN TEH HISTORYS!!!!! MANY COMPANIES DID NOT EVEN SURVIVE & NO LONGER EXIST EVEN!!!!!!

Companies like Lucent, DEC, & Compaq…

362 wrenchwench  May 11, 2015 6:55:31am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

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please proceed, Rick…

Nine black women on the Supreme Court, that’s what America needs!

363 ObserverArt  May 11, 2015 6:56:06am

re: #347 Lidane

I really, truly wish that people would stop treating Ben Carson like a serious political thinker or serious Presidential candidate. The guy makes unserious idiots like Trump and Fiorina look like policy wonks.

After the shitstorm that the GOP has kicked up since 2008 about Obama’s supposed lack of experience, they’re not going to nominate Carson. They’re not going to choose a man who’s never even run for his local school board to be their candidate for the highest office in the country. They’re just not.

Ms. Fiorina is addressing that “no government experience” as a good thing. She says that shows she is not part of the Washington culture and polls show people do not want more Washington insiders.

Well, okay. Next!

364 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 6:59:42am

re: #345 Lancelot Link

As far as I can tell, these are all the nations in the world that do not have paid maternal leave;
Lesotho
Swaziland
Suriname
Papua New Guinea
and the United States Of America.

HURR HURR!!! IF WOMENS WANTS MOAR PAYS THEY SHOULD WORK MOAR OVERTIMES JUST LIKE TEH MENS DO!!!!! BUT THEY R ALWAYS WHINING & WANTING TO SPEND THERE TIMES WITH THERE CHILDRENS INSTEAD OF WORKING HARD TO GET AHEAD!!!!!11!!

That is such utter bullshit. I have a Mathematics degree, work in a STEM field and put in shitloads of overtime back in the day.

365 Lidane  May 11, 2015 6:59:55am

This tweet is rude, shocking, borderline tasteless… and I now have high hopes for the Deadpool film. Heh.

Under the Spoiler tag since it’s NSFW:

Click to Reveal
366 ObserverArt  May 11, 2015 7:00:57am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

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please proceed, Rick…

What does it matter? The GOP is pissing all over the Supreme Court now anyway saying they will deny their rulings.

Maybe Rick should address his SCOTUS concerns with his own damn party.

And America should pay attention and vote in Democrats because right now the GOP is not very conservative, not willing to follow the rule of law…and just plain not very good for this country.

The only thing they are good at, being completely insane.

367 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 7:01:08am

If women work more overtime then you hear this from the wingnuts:

HURR HURR WHY ISN’T MY DINNER READY!!!!!11!!

HURR HURR WHY YOU STAY SO LATE AT WORK, YOU MUST BE FUCKING YOUR BOSS!!!!!111!!

368 b.d.  May 11, 2015 7:01:23am

re: #361 The Pie Mother

Carly CEOsplained her layoff of 30K American workers with the lame excuse IT WAS TEH BIGGEST TECH RECESSION IN TEH HISTORYS!!!!! MANY COMPANIES DID NOT EVEN SURVIVE & NO LONGER EXIST EVEN!!!!!!

Companies like Lucent, DEC, & Compaq…

Bush was president then iirc.

369 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 11, 2015 7:03:05am

re: #357 Justanotherhuman

It’s all about the hype of making your own locale a “paradise” in case you don’t have the money to travel to real tropical climes. It preys on the dissatisfaction and unreal expectations of people.

That’s been going on since the 18th century. At least in those days they settled for pineapple-shaped door knockers.

370 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 11, 2015 7:05:26am

re: #359 The Pie Mother

Actually animal control officer (formerly known as dog catcher) requires special skill in trapping and handling wild, feral & possibly rabid animals. It is not a “low level political office” I wish people would stop saying “couldn’t get elected dog catcher” since this is actually a highly skilled profession.

I wish people would stop thinking some goober who got elected Coroner is the same as a Medical Examiner, but you can’t have everything….

371 b.d.  May 11, 2015 7:06:58am

re: #370 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I wish people would stop thinking some goober who got elected Coroner is the same as a Medical Examiner, but you can’t have everything….

County Judge is an elected office here in Texas and it has nothing to do with judging.

372 darthstar  May 11, 2015 7:07:36am

re: #346 Targetpractice

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I’m really beginning to wonder if he’s actively sabotaging his own campaign.

I told my mom I didn’t want to run.
I told my mom I didn’t want to run.
I told my mom I didn’t want to run.
I told my mom I didn’t want to run.
I told my mom I didn’t want to run.
I told my mom I didn’t want to run.
I told my mom I didn’t want to run.

373 ObserverArt  May 11, 2015 7:08:43am

re: #362 wrenchwench

Nine black women on the Supreme Court, that’s what America needs!

The ultimate American Whig-Out!!! Look out Canada.

And with that snark…time to get some work done. Lurk mode on.

374 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 7:08:59am

re: #371 b.d.

County Judge is an elected office here in Texas and it has nothing to do with judging.

Same in Kentucky. We have Fiscal Courts with magistrates led by judge executives.

Has nothing to do with what it sounds like.

375 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 11, 2015 7:09:28am

re: #372 darthstar

I told my mom I didn’t want to run.
I told my mom I didn’t want to run.
I told my mom I didn’t want to run.
I told my mom I didn’t want to run.
I told my mom I didn’t want to run.
I told my mom I didn’t want to run.
I told my mom I didn’t want to run.

I keep saying—if he flakes, they’re going to wind up with Multiple Mitt again. This time he’ll earn the nickname.

376 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 7:10:21am

re: #369 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And I have my own Stiffel brass pineapple lamp. : )

377 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 11, 2015 7:11:16am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

What a Herculean task: convincing the voters of South Carolina to not vote for a Democrat. Perry is obviously working hard to turn himself into a potent GOP clownmaker.

378 darthstar  May 11, 2015 7:11:28am

re: #352 lawhawk

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This is what passes as journalism. Both on Hersch’s part for such a thinly sourced and ridiculously inconsistent narrative, and for CNN thinking that they should put his story up (though it’s all for eyeballs, not veracity).

I can hear Wolf Blitzer’s week long pre-commercial teasers on this now…”A CONTROVERSIAL new report accuses PRESIDENT OBAMA OF LYING. We’ll investigate after this break.”

379 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 7:14:44am

re: #352 lawhawk

Who is his major “US source”, someone who once talked to Glenn Greenwald?

Seymour must need some attention.

380 darthstar  May 11, 2015 7:16:21am
381 lawhawk  May 11, 2015 7:19:49am

re: #379 Justanotherhuman

It’s some guy who he claims was ISI years before OBL was active. Then there’s another couple of anonymous sources, who all have second hand information about the report.

382 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 7:23:56am

Feed us, Seymour. Love, The Press.

…

383 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 11, 2015 7:29:20am

re: #379 Justanotherhuman

Who is his major “US souce”, someone who once talked to Glenn Greenwald?

Seymour must need some attention.

One would think we’d learned from Judith Miller. One would be wrong.

384 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 11, 2015 7:34:17am

Dammit, live thread! LIVE!

385 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 7:34:59am

re: #381 lawhawk

It’s some guy who he claims was ISI years before OBL was active. Then there’s another couple of anonymous sources, who all have second hand information about the report.

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GG is true to form:

While also sending a separate, directly mocking tweet at Vox.

Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald * 2h 2 hours ago
It’s been clear for a long time that most of what the WH said when announcing the bin Laden killing was false theguardian.com …

386 Varek Raith  May 11, 2015 7:36:37am

Hersh is now bonkers.
Shame, really.

387 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 11, 2015 7:37:01am

I haven’t heard from OBL in a while. What’s he up to these days? (crickets)

388 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 7:38:45am

GG also saying Hollywood was had by the CIA:

Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald * 1h 1 hour ago
That’s true either way RT @KenRoth @RBrulin If Hersh is right, the CIA played Hollywood to make Zero Dark Thrity a p.r. piece for torture.

Fool, please.

389 lawhawk  May 11, 2015 7:41:00am

re: #387 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I haven’t heard from OBL in a while. What’s he up to these days? (crickets)

According to Hersh, the US riddled his body with so many bullets that it was torn to pieces and they dumped him off a helicopter over the Hindu Kush. There wasn’t enough to make a funeral at sea even possible.

There’s so much BS in all that that even B-movie directors would have a hard time convincing viewers that it was plausible to shoot a body to pieces in that fashion with small arms fire.

390 Lidane  May 11, 2015 7:41:33am

*ahem*

THERE IS NO “TEXAS TAKEOVER” YOU PARANOID, INBRED TWATWAFFLE. TEXAS IS ALREADY PART OF THE UNITED STATES.

Ok, sorry. Had to get that out there.

I am truly getting sick of people bawling about Jade Helm being an Obama plot to “invade” Texas and “take it over”. And what the fuck is the difference between Jade Helm and Operation Roaming Sands before it?

God, these people are fucking morons.

391 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 11, 2015 7:42:26am

re: #389 lawhawk

According to Hersch, the US riddled his body with so many bullets that it was torn to pieces and they dumped him off a helicopter over the Hindu Kush. There wasn’t enough to make a funeral at sea even possible.

There’s so much BS in all that that even B-movie directors would have a hard time convincing viewers that it was plausible to shoot a body to pieces in that fashion with small arms fire.

Mythbusters proved it took a minigun to cut down a (small) tree. They should get on this right away….

392 Feline Fearless Leader  May 11, 2015 7:42:27am

re: #387 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I haven’t heard from OBL in a while. What’s he up to these days? (crickets)

Resting in an octopus’ garden in the shade the last I heard.
/

393 lawhawk  May 11, 2015 7:45:20am

re: #391 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Mythbusters proved it took a minigun to cut down a (small) tree. They should get on this right away….

Yeah, you need Uncle Gazpacho. Death’s Breath. GAU-8 Avenger. Puff the Magic Dragon. Pick your moniker. But it all boils down to the same BS. Small arms fire by itself can’t do that kind of damage. Someone was watching too much bad b movie for their own good.

And in Hersh’s case, probably using too much local Pakistani product.

394 darthstar  May 11, 2015 7:46:08am

re: #387 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I haven’t heard from OBL in a while. What’s he up to these days? (crickets)

Rolling around naked in the Clinton Cash most likely.

395 A Cranky One  May 11, 2015 7:46:13am

re: #384 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Dammit, live thread! LIVE!

Come on thread, live!!!
396 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 7:46:43am

MOST HATEFUL WINGNUT TWITTER FEED OF THE DAY==>
(srsly just read her Time Line)

397 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 11, 2015 7:47:15am

re: #389 lawhawk

According to Hersh, the US riddled his body with so many bullets that it was torn to pieces and they dumped him off a helicopter over the Hindu Kush. There wasn’t enough to make a funeral at sea even possible.

There’s so much BS in all that that even B-movie directors would have a hard time convincing viewers that it was plausible to shoot a body to pieces in that fashion with small arms fire.

Hey, Lawhawk, while you’re here, did you see my question from the other day about the Baltimore cops claiming the AG should recuse herself because of a conflict of interest?

Apologies if you answered. Mother’s Day and a wedding took up my weekend.

398 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 7:49:20am
399 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 11, 2015 7:49:58am

re: #389 lawhawk

According to Hersh, the US riddled his body with so many bullets that it was torn to pieces and they dumped him off a helicopter over the Hindu Kush. There wasn’t enough to make a funeral at sea even possible.

There’s so much BS in all that that even B-movie directors would have a hard time convincing viewers that it was plausible to shoot a body to pieces in that fashion with small arms fire.

When I read that bit I thought, “Those must have been some rifles.” Hersch’s editor probably revised that from “Bin Laden’s body was torn apart by staple removers.”

400 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 11, 2015 7:50:57am

re: #334 freetoken

Here’s your “constitutional conservatives” in action:

Ben Carson: US should rethink Supreme Court review of laws

Absolutely nothing wrong with chucking out 212 years of American jurisprudence. No. Not at all.

In fact, let’s just ditch the whole judicial branch, while we’re at it. Serving life terms. Jeez. What were the founders thinking?

— Ben Carson, functional idiot.

401 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 7:51:37am

Where is the allegations that the Loesch’s stole from the pizza bigots?

402 darthstar  May 11, 2015 7:52:02am

re: #391 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Mythbusters proved it took a minigun to cut down a (small) tree. They should get on this right away….

I cut a Xmas tree one year with a .12 gauge. Top ten feet off a pretty nice tree. Just picked a spot about six inches in diameter and cut it fairly cleanly from seven or eight feet away. (We got stormed out while duck hunting so I told my dad we should at least bag mom a tree. We did.) Took three shots. Dragged it up the hillside and stuffed it under the scull boat in the back of the truck so we wouldn’t get pulled over on the way home. (Wasn’t exactly legal.)

403 lawhawk  May 11, 2015 7:52:57am

re: #397 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

The defense can make all the motions it wants, but I don’t think the conflict of interests will be upheld by the court.

The prosecutor’s job first and foremost is to insure justice is done. Filing charges against those in whose custody Gray was when he died is a way to see that justice is done. Let there be a trial to determine what happened, how it happened, and who was responsible. And let it be known that there is zero tolerance for excessive force by law enforcement against suspects and the public.

Law enforcement has a tremendously difficult job and they put their lives on the line, but that power comes with responsibility to not abuse that power and to avoid using deadly/excessive force.

404 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 11, 2015 7:54:45am

re: #403 lawhawk

The defense can make all the motions it wants, but I don’t think the conflict of interests will be upheld by the court.

The prosecutor’s job first and foremost is to insure justice is done. Filing charges against those in whose custody Gray was when he died is a way to see that justice is done. Let there be a trial to determine what happened, how it happened, and who was responsible. And let it be known that there is zero tolerance for excessive force by law enforcement against suspects and the public.

Law enforcement has a tremendously difficult job and they put their lives on the line, but that power comes with responsibility to not abuse that power and to avoid using deadly/excessive force.

Thanks! I thought it sounded like the spaghetti defense (throw stuff at the wall and see if any of it sticks).

405 Timothy Watson  May 11, 2015 7:56:10am

re: #391 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Mythbusters proved it took a minigun to cut down a (small) tree. They should get on this right away….

You mean this guy wasn’t on the OBL assault team?

406 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 11, 2015 7:57:48am

re: #402 darthstar

I cut a Xmas tree one year with a .12 gauge. Top ten feet off a pretty nice tree. Just picked a spot about six inches in diameter and cut it fairly cleanly from seven or eight feet away. (We got stormed out while duck hunting so I told my dad we should at least bag mom a tree. We did.) Took three shots. Dragged it up the hillside and stuffed it under the scull boat in the back of the truck so we wouldn’t get pulled over on the way home. (Wasn’t exactly legal.)

Out of tree-hunting season, then?

407 #FergusonFireside  May 11, 2015 8:01:34am

re: #398 The Pie Mother

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What the hell is that shit on his chin?

408 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 11, 2015 8:01:57am

re: #405 Timothy Watson

You mean this guy wasn’t on the OBL assault team?

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No, but maybe she was:

409 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 11, 2015 8:03:40am

re: #408 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

No, but maybe she was:

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I don’t think I’d kick her out of bed. For obvious reasons (i.e., dat gun)

410 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 11, 2015 8:07:05am

re: #409 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I don’t think I’d kick her out of bed. For obvious reasons (i.e., dat gun)

As I remember, they had to go to Arizona to find a place where it was legal to fire it. THEIR CUMMING FER ARE GUNZ!!11!!

411 b.d.  May 11, 2015 8:13:42am

re: #398 The Pie Mother

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The Loesch’s were accused of swindling funds?

412 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 11, 2015 8:15:25am

re: #411 b.d.

The Loesch’s were accused of swindling funds?

I wonder if UpChuck will pursue this lead. He and Dana had a bit of a tiff on Twitter and a blog war a while back

413 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 8:16:01am

re: #411 b.d.

The Loesch’s were accused of swindling funds?

I haven’t seen any allegations other than that one Tweet.

414 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 8:17:18am

re: #401 The Pie Mother

There are allegations that it was a set up “thing”, that these people were coached by Loesch and some of those contribs were anonymously made by conservative operatives. At least 29,000 fools fell for it, though. This is probably more money than those people would have made in 10 yrs. Even GoFundMe will make a tidy little bundle from this.

gofundme.com

415 Justanotherhuman  May 11, 2015 8:20:02am

Heh. Of course.

416 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 11, 2015 8:22:53am

re: #415 Justanotherhuman

Heh. Of course.

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Twelve out of ten members of the National Executive rejected Farage’s resignation.

417 b.d.  May 11, 2015 8:24:12am

re: #412 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I wonder if UpChuck will pursue this lead. He and Dana had a bit of a tiff on Twitter and a blog war a while back

Go Chuck Go!

418 makeitstop  May 11, 2015 8:25:41am

re: #398 The Pie Mother

AFTER Chris & Dana Loesch Accused Of Stealing From Memories Pizza Donations CHRIS Deletes His Twitter Acct

Hey now! What’s this? Those two got caught with their hands in the ‘no ghey cakes pizza’ cookie jar? Do tell…

(Penciled to get the right cookie jar.)

419 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 8:42:34am

re: #418 makeitstop

Hey now! What’s this? Those two got caught with their hands in the ‘no ghey cakes’ cookie jar? Do tell…

I can’t find any more information about it other than @slackadjustor Twitter feed.

420 b.d.  May 11, 2015 8:43:41am

re: #419 The Pie Mother

I can’t find any more information about it other than @slackadjustor Twitter feed.

I think that a story has to have 3 tweets before it becomes real.
//

421 Nyet  May 11, 2015 8:49:00am

re: #346 Targetpractice

“Knowing what we know now, would you have authorized the invasion?” Fox News host Megyn Kelly asked Bush in a sit-down interview.

“I would have,” Bush said.

“And so would have Hillary Clinton, just to remind everybody,” he added. “And so would almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got.”

The idiot ignored the crucial clause.

422 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 11, 2015 8:49:10am

re: #420 b.d.

I think that a story has to have 3 tweets before it becomes real.
//

Nah. It has to be on Facebook before it’s really real.

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423 #FergusonFireside  May 11, 2015 8:49:13am

Well, the gofundme page looks like an ad for Dana’s show.

424 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 8:49:51am

re: #419 The Pie Mother

I can’t find any more information about it other than @slackadjustor Twitter feed.

Might be about the CBS reporter who reported the fundraiser to GoFundMe as fraudulent early last month.

425 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 11, 2015 8:52:29am

re: #423 #FergusonFireside

Well, the gofundme page looks like an ad for Dana’s show.

Breitbart really unleashed a cadre of grifters onto the world.

426 Nyet  May 11, 2015 8:52:47am

re: #415 Justanotherhuman

Heh. Of course.

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That’s good. It’s better if that “party” is headed by a proven loser rather than some new slick snake-oil salesman that might actually make it more popular.

427 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 11, 2015 8:58:19am

re: #425 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Breitbart really unleashed a cadre of grifters onto the world.

I’ve posted in comments here before, but I met Dana Loesch once, and it’s like looking in the face of pure evil.

428 Nyet  May 11, 2015 9:00:05am

re: #427 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Did she smell of sulfur? //

429 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 11, 2015 9:02:01am

re: #427 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

re: #428 Nyet

It makes you wonder what could have possibly happened in her life to make her that way.

430 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 9:02:11am

re: #428 Nyet

Did she smell of sulfur? //

Gunpowder & Hoppes solvent

431 Lidane  May 11, 2015 9:02:50am

I can take a deep breath of relief this morning. The guy whose condo is available this summer just emailed me saying he got good news on his end so he’s leaving as he’d originally planned. I might just get the condo after all.

Also, the apartment locator I spoke with sent over some good options for affordable properties that I could look at while at this new place. My search for more permanent housing will work itself out. I am glad.

432 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 11, 2015 9:03:11am

re: #430 The Pie Mother

Gunpowder & Hoppes solvent

Ammosexual aphrodisiacs

433 Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2015 9:09:06am

re: #398 The Pie Mother

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Is CCJ on the case?

434 Ace-o-aces  May 11, 2015 9:10:20am
435 bratwurst  May 11, 2015 9:10:48am

Sadly, no.

436 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 11, 2015 9:12:20am

re: #396 The Pie Mother

MOST HATEFUL WINGNUT TWITTER FEED OF THE DAY==>
(srsly just read her Time Line)

Moar hard working conservatives working so hard they’re all on Twitter all day complaining.

437 b.d.  May 11, 2015 9:12:46am

re: #435 bratwurst

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Sadly, no.

Maybe we already have elected the smartest of the Bush brothers?

**shudder**

438 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 11, 2015 9:13:24am

re: #398 The Pie Mother

Thankfully more popcorn has arrived….

439 Feline Fearless Leader  May 11, 2015 9:13:49am

re: #435 bratwurst

Sadly, no.

Just stockpiling money/contributor lists while allowing the initial clown car load to start sniping at each other.
/

440 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 11, 2015 9:14:21am

Time for me to bow out for some sleepy time. See you all later.

441 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 9:15:31am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
I don’t understand why wingnuts think a photo of a kid doing family chores represents “getting a job from rich people”
You’d think “rich people” would have a landscaping crew on rider-mowers.

442 Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2015 9:15:39am

So, I’m reading the first review of Mad Max: Fury Road, and it’s being described in The Telegraph as a “….nitro-injected juggernaut of a film.”

What compounds the fun is Fury Road’s wholesale rejection of the generally accepted blockbuster code of conduct, which dictates that expensive films have to be marketable to teenagers but still watchable by eight-year-olds in order to maximise box-office returns. Whether or not Miller was aware of these unspoken conventions, he has ploughed a blazing petrol tanker right through the middle of them. Fury Road takes a Rabelaisian delight in grotesque bodies, and the various ways in which they can be made to splatter, burn and pop.

Enormous, naked women are milked like cattle, dwarfs are hoisted on palanquins, and men as pale and gaunt as Méliès aliens are knocked out, gnawed on, sawn up and catapulted through explosions. Imagine if Cirque du Soleil reenacted a Hieronymus Bosch painting and someone set the theatre on fire. This is more or less what Miller has come up with.

(emphasis mine)

Fury Road’s alpha male is, in fact, a woman: the rogue soldier Imperator Furiosa, played by Charlize Theron, who masterminds the escape while Max rides shotgun. Furiosa is one of the toughest, most resilient action heroes in years, with a metal prosthetic arm that hints at past trauma and a steely gaze that sees more on the way. Like Sigourney Weaver’s Ripley in the Alien films, the character is informed by her sex but not defined by it, and Theron superbly embodies her stoicism, nerve and resolve.

Oh holy shit. That sounds great! I gotta see this one.

telegraph.co.uk

443 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 11, 2015 9:16:16am

re: #352 lawhawk

This is what passes as journalism. Both on Hersch’s part for such a thinly sourced and ridiculously inconsistent narrative, and for CNN thinking that they should put his story up (though it’s all for eyeballs, not veracity).

Hersch had us invading Iran about 8 years ago….

444 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 11, 2015 9:18:24am

re: #441 The Pie Mother

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
I don’t understand why wingnuts think a photo of a kid doing family chores represents “getting a job from rich people”
You’d think “rich people” would have a landscaping crew on rider-mowers.

I don’t think this person works at all, besides complaining on Twitter.

445 FemNaziBitch  May 11, 2015 9:18:45am

How was Mother’s Day?

We had a wake. DO YOU BELIEVE IT. This family had the funeral home for their late father on Mother’s day. His wife/their Mother was there.

I didn’t go.

Kid got me a Starbucks Gift Card. :)

Now we have Hazardous Weather Outlook.

You?

446 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 11, 2015 9:20:05am

re: #442 Dr Lizardo

Fury Road’s alpha male is, in fact, a woman

This will drive CCJ up the wall.

447 FemNaziBitch  May 11, 2015 9:20:21am

re: #444 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I don’t think this person works at all, besides complaining on Twitter.

A lot of rich people do work. They get up and suit up every day. That is how they got rich in the first place. That is how they keep their wealth despite market turns and twists.

The problem is they never go to the grocery, or the gas station or in anyway come in contact with the non-rich that don’t work directly for them.

They are too insulated to understand reality.

448 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 9:20:44am

re: #444 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I don’t think this person works at all, besides complaining on Twitter.

449 b.d.  May 11, 2015 9:21:13am

re: #443 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Hersch had us invading Iran about 8 years ago….

The many problems with Seymour Hersh’s Osama bin Laden conspiracy theory

vox.com

450 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 9:23:14am
451 Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2015 9:24:06am

re: #446 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This will drive CCJ up the wall.

High praise giving her a nod alongside the Ripley character from the Alien franchise.

452 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 9:24:13am

OH LOOK A IDIOT IN MY TIME LINE==>

453 b.d.  May 11, 2015 9:24:35am

re: #449 b.d.

vox.com

As time goes on, Hersh’s stories seem to become more spectacular, more thinly sourced, and more difficult to square with reality as we know it. Perhaps one day they will all be vindicated: the Opus Dei special forces cabal, the terrorist training in Nevada, the American plan to nuke Iran, the Turkish false flag in Syria, even the American-Pakistani bin Laden ruse.

454 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 9:25:44am

re: #452 The Pie Mother

Hope he tells that to the guys restoring power next time his goes out…

455 Timothy Watson  May 11, 2015 9:26:24am

re: #449 b.d.

vox.com

I wonder what Hersh’s explanation for the crashed helicopter is…

456 Varek Raith  May 11, 2015 9:27:12am

re: #455 Timothy Watson

vox.com

I wonder what Hersh’s explanation for the crashed helicopter is…

Opus Dei in the dining room with the pipe.

457 Timothy Watson  May 11, 2015 9:30:04am

re: #456 Varek Raith

Opus Dei in the dining room with the pipe.

I always like saying “billard room” myself. :)

458 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 9:30:04am

I love science stuff:

459 b.d.  May 11, 2015 9:30:06am

re: #455 Timothy Watson

vox.com

I wonder what Hersh’s explanation for the crashed helicopter is…

err, ummmm:

And there are more contradictions. Why, for example, would the Pakistanis insist on a fake raid that would humiliate their country and the very military and intelligence leaders who supposedly instigated it?

460 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 9:30:29am

Never mind, he’s drunk

461 FemNaziBitch  May 11, 2015 9:31:10am

re: #435 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

Sadly, no.

Wy couldn’t they take after their mother?

<blockquote>During her husband’s 1992 presidential campaign, Barbara Bush stated that abortion and homosexuality are personal matters and argued that the Republican Party platform should not take a stand on it, saying that “The personal things should be left out of, in my opinion, platforms and conventions.” Her personal views on abortion were not known, although her friends reported at that time that she “privately supported abortion rights.”[12] She explained, “I hate abortions, but I just could not make that choice for someone else.”[13]

462 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 9:31:22am
463 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 9:32:17am

Drunk union hater is blocked

464 Nyet  May 11, 2015 9:33:14am

Irv Kristol’s friend Norm Podhoretz used to write really, ahem, controversial articles.

commentarymagazine.com

465 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 9:33:31am

re: #463 The Pie Mother

Drunk union hater is blocked

Too bad he doesn’t belong to a union that protected his job and his car…

466 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 9:35:05am

UpChuck is a binLaden truther.

My surprise!

467 Varek Raith  May 11, 2015 9:37:44am

And the purpose of that elaborate conspiracy involving OBL is…

I dunno, stuff.

468 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 11, 2015 9:37:54am

re: #460 The Pie Mother

Such a hard worker this union-hater person.

//

469 nearly-headless smith25  May 11, 2015 9:37:59am

re: #450 The Pie Mother

BUT RAPPERS SAYZ THE N-WORD ALL THE TIME
111!!!!111

THEY IS THE REAL RAYCISSTS!!!111!!!

I ONLY CALL THEM KNEE-GROWS111!!!!!

470 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 11, 2015 9:39:09am

re: #452 The Pie Mother

OH LOOK A IDIOT IN MY TIME LINE==>

Anti-union tweeter dude loves him some ALL CAPS

471 Ace-o-aces  May 11, 2015 9:40:03am

re: #466 Backwoods_Sleuth

UpChuck is a binLaden truther.

My surprise!

He seems unsure which way to go.

472 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 9:41:06am

re: #471 Ace-o-aces

Too bad UpChuck wasn’t there with his phone camera…

473 Feline Fearless Leader  May 11, 2015 9:43:50am

re: #461 FemNaziBitch

Wy couldn’t they take after their mother?

<blockquote>During her husband’s 1992 presidential campaign, Barbara Bush stated that abortion and homosexuality are personal matters and argued that the Republican Party platform should not take a stand on it, saying that “The personal things should be left out of, in my opinion, platforms and conventions.” Her personal views on abortion were not known, although her friends reported at that time that she “privately supported abortion rights.”[12] She explained, “I hate abortions, but I just could not make that choice for someone else.”[13]

Because the religious extremist wing of the GOP made it a litmus test for whether or not they would support a candidate. Party of personal responsibility and freedom and all that.
///

474 Feline Fearless Leader  May 11, 2015 9:44:50am

re: #466 Backwoods_Sleuth

UpChuck is a binLaden truther.

My surprise!

Nope, he’s just flitting from current issue to current issue in Twitter in order to keep in the spotlight and get attention.

475 b.d.  May 11, 2015 9:45:08am

What a douchenozzle:

476 Belafon  May 11, 2015 9:46:45am

#462 Pie Mother:

Most tech jobs are not covered by unions since tech people tend to view themselves as libertarians.

477 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 11, 2015 9:46:47am

re: #475 b.d.

What a douchenozzle:

Right. Only the right-kind of skepticism is warranted.

//

478 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 9:47:35am

re: #470 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Anti-union tweeter dude loves him some ALL CAPS

I didn’t think anyone could drunk-tweet drunker than ChuckC

479 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 11, 2015 9:48:09am

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

If only Seal Team 6 were alive to tell us what really happened…

Is CCJ going down some conspiracy rabbit-hole here or should he be using a sarc font?

480 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 11, 2015 9:48:33am

re: #340 Justanotherhuman

Obviously he wants himself, or someone else in that Klown Kar, to be dictator.

Every man his own personal Dictator.

481 b.d.  May 11, 2015 9:48:43am

re: #477 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Right. Only the right-kind of skepticism is warranted.

//

Well, if anyone knows about know-it-all mockery it would be Greenwald.

482 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 11, 2015 9:49:50am

re: #334 freetoken

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson says the United States should rethink the notion that a president must enforce laws the Supreme Court declares constitutional.

I’m confused now. Thought the wingnut line was that Obama is a law-breaking lawless president who won’t do the Laws?

483 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 11, 2015 9:50:03am

re: #347 Lidane

I really, truly wish that people would stop treating Ben Carson like a serious political thinker or serious Presidential candidate.

The two latest additions, Ben C and Carly F, are all about symbolism. Ben is the Anti-Obama and Carly is the Anti-Hillary.

484 withak  May 11, 2015 9:50:33am

re: #476 Belafon

#462 Pie Mother:

Most tech jobs are not covered by unions since tech people tend to view themselves as libertarians.

That’s not true IME, but I suppose it depends on how you define both “tech jobs” and “tech people.”

485 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 11, 2015 9:51:52am

re: #355 lawhawk

Same with Carly Fiorina, who’s … not suited to be even dog catcher.

Demon sheep catcher!!!

486 Feline Fearless Leader  May 11, 2015 9:52:18am

re: #483 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The two latest additions, Ben C and Carly F, are all about symbolism. Ben is the Anti-Obama and Carly is the Anti-Hillary.

Which will cause the GOP to scuttle their supposed rules regarding debate participation. Since if they don’t they just put a bunch of middle-aged white men on stage while their symbolic candidates get left outside.
/

487 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 9:52:20am

re: #484 withak

That’s not true IME, but I suppose it depends on how you define both “tech jobs” and “tech people.”

Tech jobs are classified as “salaried professional” and therefore not eligible for union representation.

When EDS took over GM’s IT operations in 1985, the tech staff was THIS CLOSE from joining the UAW.

488 Kragar  May 11, 2015 9:54:44am

My Brother has been a professional film critic for a few years, and in all that time, he has only rated 2 movies as 10/10.

Fury Road is one of those.

‘Mad Max: Fury Road’ Review: Holy @#$%-ing @#$%

489 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 9:55:25am
490 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 9:56:32am

FLOTUS mentions racism in her Tuskegee speech and sure enough TCOT erupts in a firehose of racism

491 Nyet  May 11, 2015 9:57:26am

re: #488 Kragar

So I was right when I said it looks good ;)

492 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 9:58:01am
493 FemNaziBitch  May 11, 2015 9:58:39am

re: #492 The Pie Mother

[Embedded content]

done

494 withak  May 11, 2015 10:00:00am

re: #487 The Pie Mother

Tech jobs are classified as “salaried professional” and therefore not eligible for union representation.

When EDS took over GM’s IT operations in 1985, the tech staff was THIS CLOSE from joining the UAW.

I meant the “view themselves as libertarians” part.

495 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 10:00:18am

SO Erick thinks the only way to avoid an unwanted pregnancy is to not have the sex.

496 Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2015 10:00:34am

re: #488 Kragar

My Brother has been a professional film critic for a few years, and in all that time, he has only rated 2 movies as 10/10.

Fury Road is one of those.

‘Mad Max: Fury Road’ Review: Holy @#$%-ing @#$%

All the reviews I’ve been seeing are - thus far - overwhelmingly positive; it’s pretty much universal acclaim.

497 bratwurst  May 11, 2015 10:00:45am
498 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 10:01:11am

re: #494 withak

I meant the “view themselves as libertarians” part.

I am a tech person and do not view myself as a libertarian. I think it’s a pretty broad brush to stereotype people by their profession.

499 withak  May 11, 2015 10:02:31am

re: #498 The Pie Mother

I am a tech person and do not view myself as a libertarian. I think it’s a pretty broad brush to stereotype people by their profession.

We are agreed, then. :)

500 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 10:04:07am

A meme by a wingnut who does not know how that Math thing works==>

501 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 10:06:18am
502 Timothy Watson  May 11, 2015 10:06:31am

re: #500 The Pie Mother

A meme by a wingnut who does not know how that Math thing works==>

[Embedded content]

Poor rich guy, netting $1,000 a day ($365,000 annually after taxes).

503 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 10:06:40am

Someone tell Joey Callow that the McDonald’s CEO makes $73,600 a day and the worker makes $58/day.

504 FemNaziBitch  May 11, 2015 10:10:08am

re: #495 The Pie Mother

SO Erick thinks the only way to avoid an unwanted pregnancy is to not have the sex.

505 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 11, 2015 10:11:15am

I need some band advice. We’re playing a show at the end of the month, and a couple of the guys want to do funk. I’m not funk. They sound pissed because I don’t want to play those covers. (seriously, one phrase is your fucking song?)

What to do?

506 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 11, 2015 10:12:29am

re: #505 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I need some band advice. We’re playing a show at the end of the month, and a couple of the guys want to do funk. I’m not funk. They sound pissed because I don’t want to play those covers. (seriously, one phrase is your fucking song?)

What to do?

play that funky music, white boy

507 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 11, 2015 10:12:32am

re: #500 The Pie Mother

A meme by a wingnut who does not know how that Math thing works==>

[Embedded content]

The rich man takes over the factory with a leveraged buyout. He then moves the corporate headquarters to a mail drop in the Cayman islands. Next, he offshores the work, lays off all of the workers, and closes the factory. Last, he does his best to blame politicians, unions, and taxes for his actions so that he’s not hanged from the nearest lamp post.

508 Lord Of The Pies  May 11, 2015 10:13:43am

re: #507 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The rich man takes over the factory with a leveraged buyout. He then moves the corporate headquarters to a mail drop in the Cayman islands. Next, he offshores the work, lays off all of the workers, and closes the factory, taking a $50 million golden parachute. Last, he does his best to blame politicians, unions, and taxes for his actions so that he’s not hanged from the nearest lamp post.

FTFY

509 GlutenFreeJesus  May 11, 2015 10:16:13am

re: #452 The Pie Mother

I think his head is going to explode.

510 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 10:16:24am

I just finished read Yaron Reshef’s Out of the Shoebox: An Autobiographic Mystery.
Those here who are working on genealogy will appreciate how he discovers that family stories often do not match up with actual history. It’s also an interesting inside look at a part of the history of a town in Poland/Ukraine (Chortkow) and what was happening in Israel/Palestine (mostly Haifa) in the 1930s.
I recommend it.

511 GlutenFreeJesus  May 11, 2015 10:16:41am

re: #495 The Pie Mother

If only his parents knew that.

512 FemNaziBitch  May 11, 2015 10:17:02am

GOP Crowd Applauds Calling Immigrants Rats and Roaches

513 FemNaziBitch  May 11, 2015 10:17:57am

re: #509 GlutenFreeJesus

[Embedded content]

I think his head is going to explode.

remember when we used to RESPECT people who worked?

514 nearly-headless smith25  May 11, 2015 10:19:19am

Some of you have heard about the accusations against KY GOP nominee for Governor James Comer allegedly abusing his college girlfriend. Rumor is the story was pushed to the forefront by a blogger connected to the campaign of another GOP nominee for Govenor: Hal Heiner. Of course, Comer is relaeasing mailers to get back at Heiner and distract everyone.

Similarities mean different shirts, hats,…
515 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 11, 2015 10:20:37am

re: #513 FemNaziBitch

remember when we used to RESPECT people who worked?

They respect people who have a lot of money and/or vote GOP. Everyone else is a moocher, socialist, muslim, athiest, looser (sic), etc…

516 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 11, 2015 10:22:03am

re: #514 nearly-headless smith25

We need a better class of wingnuts.

517 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 10:23:02am

re: #514 nearly-headless smith25

The GOP candidates are such a bunch of losers.
The Cincinnati Enquirer endorsed Matt Bevin saying:

There isn’t much daylight between the four GOP candidates on many of the biggest issues. Frankly, they all believe in some things we think are just wrong-headed.

snip

But we’re endorsing businessman Matt Bevin as the best of an uninspiring field for this Republican primary, although we have reservations about some of his positions.

cincinnati.com

Whatever happened to just not endorsing anyone?

518 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 11, 2015 10:24:43am

re: #509 GlutenFreeJesus
Wait, I thought that the unemployed were spending all of their time eating t-bone steaks, watching their free flatscreens, or using their Obamaphones. The only people who are unemployed, so I’ve heard, are those who just aren’t trying hard enough to find a job.

519 GlutenFreeJesus  May 11, 2015 10:26:04am

re: #518 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Just wait. THAT union is different. They kills teh blakz!!!!!

520 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 11, 2015 10:27:29am

Our long national nightmare is almost over

yahoo.com

521 Bass Reeves  May 11, 2015 10:28:18am

Does Hersh’s story explain why the CIA screwed over doctors by using the vaccination program as a cover to get DNA evidence from OBL? I mean if the ISI was saying he was there, why wouldn’t they have just provided some proof instead of having the CIA fumble around?

For what it’s worth, I’m sure the ISI had been moving around OBL for a while, not for leverage against Al Qaeda, but so they could help continue to destabilize Afghanistan, so we would continue to pay them ungodly amounts of money for shipping and transportation through their country. I just don’t think they knew about the raid, because Obama is not *that* accommodating when it comes to killing terrorists.

522 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 10:28:26am

There’s already a tornado warning in the area of Ft. Wayne, IN.

523 #FergusonFireside  May 11, 2015 10:29:41am

re: #505 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I need some band advice. We’re playing a show at the end of the month, and a couple of the guys want to do funk. I’m not funk. They sound pissed because I don’t want to play those covers. (seriously, one phrase is your fucking song?)

What to do?

I LOVE funk.

524 GlutenFreeJesus  May 11, 2015 10:31:11am

re: #505 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Just start playing and when they give you that look:

Ohhh… I thought you said punk!

525 nearly-headless smith25  May 11, 2015 10:31:23am

re: #517 Backwoods_Sleuth

The GOP candidates are such a bunch of losers.
The Cincinnati Enquirer endorsed Matt Bevin saying:

snip

cincinnati.com

Whatever happened to just not endorsing anyone?

A year ago, I would have said that Comer had a better than awful chance to win the race against Conway. Not right now.

526 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2015 10:34:17am

re: #525 nearly-headless smith25

Yep. I think Comer is pretty much toast right now.

527 Bass Reeves  May 11, 2015 10:34:59am

re: #500 The Pie Mother

Well…is the 2k a day the rich man makes his personal income or no? Because otherwise it’s conflating take home pay with….y’know what? Never mind.

528 GlutenFreeJesus  May 11, 2015 10:35:36am

re: #526 Backwoods_Sleuth

You never know… As the years have gone by, the GOP electorate has gotten dumber and dumber and dumber and…

529 danarchy  May 11, 2015 11:07:43am

re: #509 GlutenFreeJesus

[Embedded content]

I think his head is going to explode.

Was looking over that guys timeline, weird dude. He appears to be a Hillary supporter and very anti-republican, just has an irrational hatred of unions.

530 FemNaziBitch  May 11, 2015 11:12:20am

Question:

531 FemNaziBitch  May 11, 2015 11:13:54am

re: #514 nearly-headless smith25

Some of you have heard about the accusations against KY GOP nominee for Governor James Comer allegedly abusing his college girlfriend. Rumor is the story was pushed to the forefront by a blogger connected to the campaign of another GOP nominee for Govenor: Hal Heiner. Of course, Comer is relaeasing mailers to get back at Heiner and distract everyone.

[Embedded content]

eyebrows are different

532 BeenHereAwhile  May 11, 2015 11:14:14am

re: #505 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

I need some band advice. We’re playing a show at the end of the month, and a couple of the guys want to do funk. I’m not funk. They sound pissed because I don’t want to play those covers. (seriously, one phrase is your fucking song?)

What to do?

“Pick Up the Pieces”

Average White Band, 2nd album “AWB”. 1974.

533 Feline Fearless Leader  May 11, 2015 11:14:23am

re: #495 The Pie Mother

SO Erick thinks the only way to avoid an unwanted pregnancy is for the woman to not have the sex.

FTFY. None of this is the man’s responsibility. Of course.
//

Then you have to reconcile this with the patriarchal bit about the wife obeying the husband in all things. Including demands for sex.
//


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