Ben Carson Says the Dred Scott Decision Allows the President to Ignore SCOTUS on Gay Marriage

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This is why young Earth creationist Ben Carson will never be President of the United States; his grasp of history and government is… tenuous, to say the least: Ben Carson Invokes Dred Scott Decision as Precedent for Ignoring Supreme Court Rulings.

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson raised eyebrows last week when he told Newsmax that a potential Supreme Court ruling to legalize same-sex marriage across the country would not have to be implemented, because “the laws of the land come from the legislative branch.”

It’s not a commonly held opinion, given that the high court has long asserted the right to invalidate laws it deems unconstitutional, and no other presidential candidate has suggested that the court’s ultimate ruling on same-sex marriage could be ignored.

During a Republican gathering Saturday in Greenville, S.C., Bloomberg asked Carson to explain his assertion.

“What I would really love to see, as the Constitution states, civil matters being taken care of in the state and the states.”

Ben Carson

“Probably the best thing to do is go back and read about the Dred Scott case,” Carson responded, referring to the 1857 case in which the Supreme Court validated slavery; today it is widely viewed as the worst ruling in the Court’s history. “And as you know, President Lincoln wasn’t too much in favor of that. And his policies indicated that. Clearly it created a lot of division. We ended up fighting a war over it but in the long run it was the right thing to do.”

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105 comments
1 Amory Blaine  May 12, 2015 1:14:03pm

I think he’s acting as a trial balloon for the other candidates to see how loony the rhetoric can get before it has to be dialed down.

2 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2015 1:15:39pm

Truly stupid.

I’m afraid that’s how the racist base likes their politicians.

3 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2015 1:16:10pm
4 Kragar  May 12, 2015 1:17:05pm

“Dred Scott?”
“Forget it, he’s rolling.”

5 Snarknado!  May 12, 2015 1:17:46pm

The DRED SCOTT DECISION was, in the long run, the right thing to do?

If I start shaking my head, I’ll never stop.

6 withak  May 12, 2015 1:19:03pm

Every time I think we’ve hit Peak Wingnut, I’m proven wrong, sometimes by several orders of magnitude.

7 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 12, 2015 1:19:07pm

re: #5 Snarknado!

The DRED SCOTT DECISION was, in the long run, the right thing to do?

If I start shaking my head, I’ll never stop.

I think he means the Civil War, or Lincoln going to war, was the right thing to do.

8 sffilk  May 12, 2015 1:19:25pm

Maybe he’d like it if “Plessy v. Ferguson” was also in effect as opposed to “Brown v. Board of Education Topeka”?

9 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 12, 2015 1:19:53pm

re: #3 Justanotherhuman

Officer afraid for his life, black assailant busted cop’s eye socket. Here is file photo.

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10 wrenchwench  May 12, 2015 1:21:50pm

Just because the Supreme Court has made mistakes in the past doesn’t mean Ben Carson gets to decide when they’ve made mistakes in the future.

11 Snarknado!  May 12, 2015 1:21:55pm

re: #7 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I think he means the Civil War, or Lincoln going to war, was the right thing to do.

I considered that too, but… well never mind. Whatever the hell he thinks he’s saying, I’d lose brain cells if I spent more time on it. What an idjit.

12 aagcobb  May 12, 2015 1:22:41pm

What Carson doesn’t get is that the Constitution had to be amended after the Civil War to reverse Dred Scott. The Emancipation Proclamation was justified as a provision to advance the Union’s war aims, and had no affect on slavery in slave states which stayed in the Union. So no, this doesn’t justify simply ignoring the Supreme Court’s rulings.

13 lawhawk  May 12, 2015 1:22:53pm

Ben Carson is this cycle’s Sarah Palin. There’s so much word salad coming from his direction that it feels like having brain salad surgery. And not in a good way.

This is the state of the GOP where someone who is this divorced from reality seems to think he/she can/should be president. Or in the room with someone who thinks he/she should be president.

14 Ace-o-aces  May 12, 2015 1:24:39pm
15 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 12, 2015 1:30:00pm

Well, the worst part of the Dred Scott decision was the throwaway at the end (a la Citizens United) that the Missouri Compromise was unconstitutional to begin with. That invalidated the Kansas-Nebraska Act, and said it was all right for the slave power to try to spread slavery into whichever territories they could, which the free states would never accept. It made civil war inevitable—although the form it took, of secession by the slave states, was a result of Lincoln’s election.

16 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2015 1:30:45pm
17 Nyet  May 12, 2015 1:31:32pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

You hit the mark, heh.

18 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2015 1:33:48pm

re: #17 Nyet

…

19 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2015 1:35:25pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

It was one of your “fans” that told UpChuck (Chuck retweeted this):

20 Snarknado!  May 12, 2015 1:36:16pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I like the other “suspended” cat better too. :)

21 team_fukit  May 12, 2015 1:36:43pm

Dred Scott and Plessy… conservative nostalgia

22 No Country For Old Haters  May 12, 2015 1:37:53pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

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23 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 12, 2015 1:38:18pm
Ben Carson Invokes Dred Scott Decision as Precedent for Ignoring Supreme Court Rulings.

Carson’s a moran and anti-gay zealot.

But I think the point he may be trying to make is that even after the Dred Scott decision in 1857—which declared unconstitutional Congressional attempts (like the Missouri Compromise) to ban or restrict slavery in the territories—Lincoln and the Republicans continued to make the opposition to slavery in the territories a key plank in their platform. I’ve always been a bit curious about this. Did Lincoln and the Republicans assume that the Dred Scott decision was only a prohibition on Congressional action in the territories and that the Executive could still act in prohibit slavery in the territories?

But I don’t think continued opposition to a court ruling is the same thing as defying that ruling—and that’s what Carson seems to want here. In fact if he wants an analogy to a state’s opposing a SCOTUS ruling, the South’s initial opposition and efforts to frustrate Brown vs Bd of Ed is a better comparison. But I doubt that’s an analogy he’d like.

24 Kragar  May 12, 2015 1:38:58pm
25 Targetpractice  May 12, 2015 1:39:31pm

Like I noted downstairs, Carson really is a gift to the DNC. He has virtually no chance of winning the election, but like Palin, his influence on the eventual nominee will only further enhance their unelectability. Just being associated with such loonies is going to turn off voters.

26 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 12, 2015 1:39:36pm

re: #4 Kragar

“Dred Scott?”
“Forget it, he’s rolling.”

Was the war over when the Confederates bombed Dutch Harbor?

27 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 12, 2015 1:40:32pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was one of your “fans” that told UpChuck (Chuck retweeted this):

LGF: Always Be Killing Twitter Accounts.

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28 Charles Johnson  May 12, 2015 1:41:13pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was one of your “fans” that told UpChuck (Chuck retweeted this):

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I know. That’s almost certainly the same person.

29 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2015 1:41:41pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

I know. That’s almost certainly the same person.

Yep. I noticed that it’s a shiny brand-new twitter account.

30 wrenchwench  May 12, 2015 1:42:35pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was one of your “fans” that told UpChuck (Chuck retweeted this):

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He’s ‘pinned’ an anti LGF tweet! And stole the finger monkey for an icon. He has a fixation.

31 Lord Of The Pies  May 12, 2015 1:42:35pm
32 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2015 1:43:38pm
33 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 12, 2015 1:44:27pm

re: #23 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Did Lincoln and the Republicans assume that the Dred Scott decision was only a prohibition on Congressional action in the territories and that the Executive could still act in prohibit slavery in the territories?

Or did Lincoln and other Republicans just think the Dred Scott ruling was a flimsy piece of reasoning, one that in due time they could reverse once they gained power to appoint judges, etc?

34 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2015 1:45:05pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

BREAKING: #Patriots fans taken to Central Booking in New York City.

Any crushed spines or windpipes?

35 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2015 1:47:11pm
36 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2015 1:47:38pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

Any crushed spines or windpipes?

And they weren’t shot, either.

37 Nyet  May 12, 2015 1:48:40pm

re: #31 The Pie Mother

A skilled (brain) surgeon is still not a genius IMHO.

38 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2015 1:49:00pm

re: #36 Justanotherhuman

And they weren’t shot, either.

Of course they’re not Dallas fans.

39 blueraven  May 12, 2015 1:50:52pm

I think we do a disservice when we lump every single police shooting together under one big umbrella of police brutality or profiling.

Wisconsin has some measures in place that we all want… state DOJ investigation of all police killings rather than local.

Tragic as it may be, with possible mistakes made…the Tony Robinson case does not appear to be in the same league as some of the other recent shootings. Unfortunately it seems he was acting with violence to many people while under the influence of several drugs. He was in an altered state. This is really sad.

Maybe the cop could have done something else, I don’t know. But from what I have read and heard there is nothing that rises to the level of a criminal act by this officer.

40 Nyet  May 12, 2015 1:51:34pm

re: #39 blueraven

Yes.

41 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2015 1:53:25pm

re: #39 blueraven

To find a root problem, look to the police manning and funding that leads to One Cop—One druggie.

42 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2015 1:53:32pm
43 Targetpractice  May 12, 2015 1:56:13pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Tubman’s part of our heritage as well. That part that we don’t have to make excuses for, unlike the Trail of Tears.

44 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2015 1:56:42pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t see CCJ turning down any free twenties.

45 Nyet  May 12, 2015 1:58:12pm

An idea appears to balance a bunch of slaveholders on the paper money with one black woman. Wingnuts go nuts.

46 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 12, 2015 1:58:46pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

CCJ’s a funny guy….

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47 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 12, 2015 1:59:20pm

Sometimes you’ve just got to take a deep breath….

48 ipsos  May 12, 2015 1:59:21pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

If $20s with Andrew Jackson were good enough for our Founding Fathers, there good enough for me too. Hurr hurr hurr hurr.

49 CriticalDragon1177  May 12, 2015 1:59:56pm

Charles Johnson,

Wow, yet another homophobic wingnut is comparing Dredd Scott, to a potential supreme court ruling legalizing gay marriage across the country. Someone should point out to this idiot, that the thing that overturned Dredd Scott and finally got rid of slavery was the civil war, and the passage of the 13th amendment, not the government just refusing to recognize the ruling. In fact the only time I know of that a president openly defied the supreme court, was Andrew Jackson, and that lead to the trail of tears. People need to keep that in mind.

50 Nyet  May 12, 2015 2:01:06pm

re: #48 ipsos

If $20s with Andrew Jackson were good enough for our Founding Fathers, there good enough for me too. Hurr hurr hurr hurr.

It was good enough for Jesus. And Moses.

51 Jenner7  May 12, 2015 2:01:29pm
52 Iwouldprefernotto  May 12, 2015 2:01:30pm

Guess where I stopped reading?

Hint

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson raised eyebrows last week when he told Newsmax

As far I know Newsmax is still looking for the birth certificate.

53 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 12, 2015 2:01:45pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t know about you but I won’t carry any 20s without Jackson on them.

UpChuck has “principles”.

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54 Eventual Carrion  May 12, 2015 2:01:48pm

re: #26 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Was the war over when the Confederates bombed Dutch Harbor?

Not until the fat lady shit in the woods.

55 CriticalDragon1177  May 12, 2015 2:02:02pm

re: #31 The Pie Mother

56 Nyet  May 12, 2015 2:03:14pm

re: #51 Jenner7

On Sunday, July 15, Madison police killed Ronald Brandon with a bullet to the head. Drunk and despondent, the 48-year-old had called 911 to report, falsely, that a man with a gun was threatening neighbors. When police arrived at the east-side residence, Brandon was sitting on the front porch. He purportedly pointed what appeared to be a .38-caliber revolver first at his own head and then at an officer, drawing a lethal rifle shot.
Later it emerged that Brandon had a mere pellet gun and that his ex-wife Susan had called 911 to convey this information. According to Dane County District Attorney Brian Blanchard, who promptly cleared the officer of criminal liability, Susan Brandon told the 911 center the gun was fake 40 seconds before police arrived at the scene and 109 seconds before the shooting. But the officers were never told.
- See more at: isthmus.com

57 Amory Blaine  May 12, 2015 2:05:23pm

Photos: Scene outside 1125 Williamson St.

58 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2015 2:06:18pm

re: #39 blueraven

It stinks. White people on drugs seldom get shot just for busting up their house. College kids get a slap on the wrist and maybe explulsion, and we’ve seen sports riots where people were carted off to jail to “sleep it off”, if they bothered to catch them at all. If Robinson was exhibiting “crazy” behavior, and had no weapon, why weren’t other means used to subdue him? Surely Kenny was not the only cop on the scene, but he was the one who shot him.

Of course, Robinson, an 18 yr old, isn’t here to defend himself, either, so I take the DA’s (who wasn’t at the scene) conclusions with a grain of salt.

59 Lord Of The Pies  May 12, 2015 2:06:20pm

re: #37 Nyet

A skilled (brain) surgeon is still not a genius IMHO.

Well, my point was that expertise in one field does not make you an expert in all fields.

Mozart died drunk & broke.

60 wrenchwench  May 12, 2015 2:08:15pm

Marxist fox.

61 blueraven  May 12, 2015 2:09:01pm

re: #51 Jenner7

In 2007, Officer Kenny killed #RonaldBrandon. Kenny was exonerated. In 2015, Officer Kenny killed #TonyRobinson.

Another tragic death, but I think most people would agree this was a dangerous situation for the police. Or at least all evidence at the time pointed to that.

On Sunday, July 15, Madison police killed Ronald Brandon with a bullet to the head. Drunk and despondent, the 48-year-old had called 911 to report, falsely, that a man with a gun was threatening neighbors. When police arrived at the east-side residence, Brandon was sitting on the front porch. He purportedly pointed what appeared to be a .38-caliber revolver first at his own head and then at an officer, drawing a lethal rifle shot.

Later it emerged that Brandon had a mere pellet gun and that his ex-wife Susan had called 911 to convey this information. According to Dane County District Attorney Brian Blanchard, who promptly cleared the officer of criminal liability, Susan Brandon told the 911 center the gun was fake 40 seconds before police arrived at the scene and 109 seconds before the shooting. But the officers were never told.

- See more at: isthmus.com

62 Kryptik  May 12, 2015 2:09:03pm

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

On top of that, most of the assholes invoking MLK Jr. to pooh-pooh at people demanding justice for racial equality tend to invoke him in a juvenile way that strips his words of the context that belies one of the hard truths that he kept confronting: shit is bad for black people and ignoring racism and denying its effects does as much as much to perpetuate it as being an active supporter of racist policy. Being willfully oblivious or ignorant just helps those with all the power in the top-down structure.

Instead, assholes take his words as ‘outwardly ignore race and racism, pretend they don’t exist, and then everything will be peachy-keen!’

63 makeitstop  May 12, 2015 2:11:59pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

#Patriots fans taken to Central Booking in New York City.

There are not enough palms to adequately facepalm this.

64 Nyet  May 12, 2015 2:12:43pm

re: #61 blueraven

Kenny seems like a nice enough guy:

host.madison.com

They were outside the City-County Building, celebrating with other couples who got married, when Carnell struck up a conversation with fellow officers Matt Kenny and Zach Kimbrew.

Given the number of wedding celebrations taking place, Kenny made the suggestion that he and Kimbrew should go get some cake.

“There should be cake,” Carnell said later. “It was a wedding.”

Kenny and Kimbrew soon returned from Hy-Vee. That’s when Chodron snapped the picture of Kimbrew, Kenny and Carnell, each with a sheet cake in a plastic container, walking across Martin Luther King Boulevard toward the City-County Building. Carnell, the only one of the three not in police uniform, also has a bag of utensils and appears to be raising the cake to show the crowd.

I’m giving him the benefit of doubt.

65 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2015 2:12:58pm

re: #62 Kryptik

66 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 12, 2015 2:13:20pm

re: #37 Nyet

A skilled (brain) surgeon is still not a genius IMHO.

Well, it was necessary to add the word Egnorant to the language.

67 Feline Fearless Leader  May 12, 2015 2:13:34pm

re: #48 ipsos

If $20s with Andrew Jackson were good enough for our Founding Fathers, there good enough for me too. Hurr hurr hurr hurr.

The earliest $20 bank note in the US was issued in 1862-63. And a woman was on it. (Lady Liberty holding a sword and shield.)

68 wrenchwench  May 12, 2015 2:13:40pm
69 Nyet  May 12, 2015 2:14:21pm

re: #66 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yep, what’s up with all the dumb neurosurgeons?

70 Kryptik  May 12, 2015 2:17:05pm

re: #65 Justanotherhuman

And tellingly, he was assassinated after he expanded his campaign toward what would be called “Class warfare” as well. Most of the people using him as a bludgeon against black people would’ve called for his head much the same way people did in his time. But nope, he’s a convenient rhetorical bludgeon against the idea that there’s even such a thing as racism anymore, so yay, invoke away wingers.

71 Amory Blaine  May 12, 2015 2:17:44pm

re: #63 makeitstop

72 Kragar  May 12, 2015 2:18:20pm

re: #71 Amory Blaine

According to Larry Pratt, the way to deal with them is to shoot them.

73 Feline Fearless Leader  May 12, 2015 2:18:54pm

re: #69 Nyet

Yep, what’s up with all the dumb neurosurgeons?

There’s a Gumby Gap between the US and UK that they are trying to fill in.
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74 Feline Fearless Leader  May 12, 2015 2:19:51pm

re: #71 Amory Blaine

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Some boys who need to find something more productive to do with their time. Maybe go volunteer to help clean a soup kitchen.
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75 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2015 2:20:22pm

re: #64 Nyet

Kenny seems like a nice enough guy:

host.madison.com

I’m giving him the benefit of doubt.

Doesn’t need the doubt, he’s got the DA.

76 Amory Blaine  May 12, 2015 2:20:43pm

Seriously misplaced priorities.

77 Lord Of The Pies  May 12, 2015 2:21:10pm

re: #70 Kryptik

And tellingly, he was assassinated after he expanded his campaign toward what would be called “Class warfare” as well. Most of the people using him as a bludgeon against black people would’ve called for his head much the same way people did in his time. But nope, he’s a convenient rhetorical bludgeon against the idea that there’s even such a thing as racism anymore, so yay, invoke away wingers.

78 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 12, 2015 2:21:22pm

re: #71 Amory Blaine

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more shiftless, lazy moochers.

79 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 12, 2015 2:21:53pm

re: #71 Amory Blaine

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Parents, come get your children.

80 Lidane  May 12, 2015 2:22:41pm

Can we stop pretending that Ben Carson is anything other than a grifter who’s angling for higher speaking fees? Guy may well be a good surgeon, but he’s a fucking moron the rest of the time.

The Republican party will never nominate him for office. He’s never even run for his local school board. They’re not going to make him their candidate for the Presidency. Ever.

81 Nyet  May 12, 2015 2:23:05pm

re: #75 Decatur Deb

I don’t give the benefit of doubt to Dick Cheney, and he doesn’t even need a DA…

82 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2015 2:23:20pm

re: #70 Kryptik

And not so surprising that white kids have ever heard about James Earl Ray.

And there are still conspiracy theories swirling around Ray, also.

83 Nyet  May 12, 2015 2:23:23pm

re: #76 Amory Blaine

Seen the Skin flick yet? ;)

84 Amory Blaine  May 12, 2015 2:24:33pm

re: #83 Nyet

Heh, no but I plan on it either tonight or tomorrow.

85 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2015 2:24:35pm

re: #80 Lidane

Can we stop pretending that Ben Carson is anything other than a grifter who’s angling for higher speaking fees? Guy may well be a good surgeon, but he’s a fucking moron the rest of the time.

The Republican party will never nominate him for office. He’s never even run for his local school board. They’re not going to make him their candidate for the Presidency. Ever.

I’ve encountered his rather passionate campaign supporters at events here in Baja Alabama. Lily-white tea partiers.

86 Lord Of The Pies  May 12, 2015 2:25:03pm
87 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 12, 2015 2:25:44pm

re: #80 Lidane

Can we stop pretending that Ben Carson is anything other than a grifter who’s angling for higher speaking fees? Guy may well be a good surgeon, but he’s a fucking moron the rest of the time.

The Republican party will never nominate him for office. He’s never even run for his local school board. They’re not going to make him their candidate for the Presidency. Ever.

There are school boards whose decisions affect more people than the Governor of Alaska—and make no mistake, Sarah Palin was running for president. The people who voted for her were sure that Walnuts would soon be out of the way, one way or another.

88 Snarknado!  May 12, 2015 2:25:47pm

(Back to the thread topic…)

I just remembered that Lincoln PROSECUTED at least one escaped slave under the Dred Scott Decision, arguing that it allowed his master to take possession of him and take him back to the south (he lost the case).

Because.He.Respected.The.Law.

89 blueraven  May 12, 2015 2:29:35pm

re: #58 Justanotherhuman

It stinks. White people on drugs seldom get shot just for busting up their house. College kids get a slap on the wrist and maybe explulsion, and we’ve seen sports riots where people were carted off to jail to “sleep it off”, if they bothered to catch them at all. If Robinson was exhibiting “crazy” behavior, and had no weapon, why weren’t other means used to subdue him? Surely Kenny was not the only cop on the scene, but he was the one who shot him.

Of course, Robinson, an 18 yr old, isn’t here to defend himself, either, so I take the DA’s (who wasn’t at the scene) conclusions with a grain of salt.

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It was more than “busting up a house”. He was hitting and choking people on the street and allegedly attacked the officer too. Several 911 calls came in reporting his violent behavior.

And I am not claiming there is any kind of parity between White and Black victims of police shootings or treatment. There is not, and that has to change. I just think each case must be weighed on the merits.

As for guns and cops. I wish (like in GB) they were severely limited as to who can carry them, but as long as we have the gun culture we have in the US that aint gonna happen.

90 GlutenFreeJesus  May 12, 2015 2:30:11pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

THUGS!!!!!!

91 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2015 2:30:37pm

James Earl Ray himelf, who despised Blacks, and in particular MLK, started the entire “conspiracy” web around himself when he pled guilty to avoid a trial and the death penalty.

nytimes.com

“At one point in that hearing, both the prosecutor, P. M. Canale, and Mr. Ray’s lawyer, Percy Foreman, told the court that there was no evidence that anyone else had conspired with Mr. Ray to kill Dr. King. But the defendant then leaped to his feet and declared that he did not intend that his guilty plea be construed as meaning that there had been no conspiracy.”

92 thedopefishlives  May 12, 2015 2:36:36pm

Evening Lizardim.

93 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2015 2:38:42pm

Now UpChuck wants to interfere in a case in Australia:

94 Justanotherhuman  May 12, 2015 2:38:44pm
95 Nyet  May 12, 2015 2:52:19pm

What I will say might sound as a legitimization for CTs, though it’s not my intent: I sort of get people who believe in certain CTs about the 1950s and the 1960s (without accepting the said CTs of course). With all the shit that was going on back then…

I mean, there was MKUltra, and the rest of the stuff exposed by the Church Committee. There were the notorious Operation Northwoods proposals. This stuff looks like it was made up by some paranoiac Alex Jones fan, and yet it’s all factual. Something was rotten in the state of the Union…

96 Aunty Entity Dragon  May 12, 2015 2:56:45pm

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

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Tired of hearing quotes from MLK delivered by privileged anglo saxons. I want to hear more from Stokley Carmichael.

97 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2015 2:57:39pm

re: #95 Nyet

What I will say might sound as a legitimization for CTs, though it’s not my intent: I sort of get people who believe in certain CTs about the 1950s and the 1960s (without accepting the said CTs of course). With all the shit that was going on back then…

I mean, there was MKUltra, and the rest of the stuff exposed by the Church Committee. There were the notorious Operation Northwoods proposals. This stuff looks like it was made up by some paranoiac Alex Jones fan, and yet it’s all factual. Something was rotten in the state of the Union…

We had a psycho fearmonger with a lifetime lock on the FBI. The difference is that most of the real CT-like shit he pulled was targeted at the lefties.

98 Decatur Deb  May 12, 2015 2:59:15pm

re: #96 Aunty Entity Dragon

Tired of hearing quotes from MLK delivered by privileged anglo saxons. I want to hear more from Stokley Carmichael.

Eldridge somebody on line 3. Says his soul is nice.

99 chemoelectric  May 12, 2015 2:59:42pm

re: #1 Amory Blaine

I think he’s just a loon.

100 Nyet  May 12, 2015 3:00:20pm

re: #97 Decatur Deb

I thought about adding Hoover, but the list can be very long, akshully.

101 chemoelectric  May 12, 2015 3:02:47pm

re: #7 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I think he means that there was a War of Northern Aggression against the Supreme Court, which conducted its business at Fort Sumter.

102 CuriousLurker  May 12, 2015 3:05:10pm

re: #101 chemoelectric

Hey, I didn’t know you were a member here! Good to see you. ;-)

103 Amory Blaine  May 12, 2015 3:05:52pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

The guy is in cuffs and still has his water bottle.

104 Nyet  May 12, 2015 3:07:56pm

re: #101 chemoelectric

Yo, I’ve seen on you on twitterz.

105 wrenchwench  May 12, 2015 3:10:46pm

re: #99 chemoelectric

Welcome, hatchling.


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