GOP Clown Car Watch: The Jeb Bush Backflip: ‘I Would Not Have Gone Into Iraq’

Knowing what he knows now, would Jeb know what he knows now?
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Is he triangulating because his aides let him know how disastrous it would be to still support the Iraq War at this point, or is he actually expressing an honest opinion now? Who knows! In the 2015 GOP Clown Car, not even the clowns know what they really believe: Jeb Bush Fully Walks It Back on Iraq: ‘I Would Not Have Gone Into Iraq.’

After nearly a week of confusion over his position on Iraq, the Middle East, and the role of his brother as an adviser, Jeb Bush fully walked back his position that he would have gone to war in Iraq — even knowing what we know now.

“So here’s the deal,” Bush told an audience in Arizona, “if we’re all supposed to answer hypothetical questions, knowing what we know now, I would not have engaged. I would not have gone into Iraq. That’s not to say that the world is safer because Saddam Hussein is gone. It is significantly safer.”

The remarks come after Bush was asked on Fox, “Knowing what we know now,” would he have authorized the war. “I would have,” he answered, then pivoted to try and say that Hillary Clinton would have, too. Clinton voted to authorize the war as a senator, but has since called that vote a “mistake.”

Josh Marshall thinks this could be the end of the line for the few remaining Iraq War dead-enders: How Jeb Bush Triggered an Iraq War Watershed.

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402 comments
1 Eclectic Cyborg  May 14, 2015 8:22:01pm

If you don’t think the Iraq War was a terrible fucking idea there’s no hope for you.

2 RealityBasedSteve  May 14, 2015 8:25:46pm

Just posted up on Freep. I guess this is what they use as fap material. This is their dream, and Americas nightmare.


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3 teleskiguy  May 14, 2015 8:35:08pm

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

Some people (I’ll say millions of [WASP] people) in the United States will look at this and nod their heads, saying to themselves “That’s how this country will return to greatness!”

4 goddamnedfrank  May 14, 2015 8:38:32pm

The thing is Hillary can at least say she was lied to, that the Bush Administration cooked the books on Iraq and withheld crucial evidence. It doesn’t really excuse her in my eyes but it’s at least an internally consistent position and lines up with the limitations, however self imposed, she operated under when she gave Bush her consent to go to war using his own judgement. She can say in effect “I was an overly credulous idiot and was sold a bunch of shit.” In effect, “fool me once …”

Jeb has no analogue to that, he wasn’t in the Senate, and he’s GW’s brother, so when people ask him if he still supports the war the logical unstated portion of that question is “if you were in your brother’s position.” In that place he’d have been the one selling the bullshit, presenting Curveball as a legit intelligence asset, forcing the CIA analysts to come up with aluminum tube nonsense, opening up an intelligence shop inside the Pentagon to invent WMD stories from whole cloth.

So yeah, it’s comparatively maybe a little bit unfair. I still don’t have any sympathy for him because he’s a bigoted elitist fuckball who’s had years to come up with some kind of strategy for threading this needle, but we should probably at least acknowledge that there was no easy answer for him here.

5 Joe Bacon  May 14, 2015 8:40:34pm

There’s no doubt in my mind that Jeb wants to continue with what his brother started. A vote for Jeb is a vote for war in Syria and Iran.

6 teleskiguy  May 14, 2015 8:41:37pm

Why do folks who comment at LGF have to be so lucid and largely in charge of the arguments being presented? You guise are too sane!

7 goddamnedfrank  May 14, 2015 8:45:58pm

It’s so easy to forget all the context surrounding Bush’s decision to go into Iraq too. For just one example look at Operation Jawbreaker run by Gary Berntsen in Afghanistan. Berntsen fucking begged the chain of command for more troops to seal off the Afghanistan / Pakistan border during the Battle of Tora Bora, and was uniformly rebuffed. In his book Berntsen blames this directly for Osama bin Laden’s escape, because Bush Administration thought they could wrap up Afghanistan on the cheap, using local tribal members to guard the border instead of US troops that were being pre-staged en masse for an Iraq operation that was still being sold as anything but inevitable at that point.

8 retired cynic  May 14, 2015 8:48:17pm

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

Just posted up on Freep. I guess this is what they use as fap material. This is their dream, and Americas nightmare.

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Gag me.

9 BeachDem  May 14, 2015 9:01:11pm

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

Just posted up on Freep. I guess this is what they use as fap material. This is their dream, and Americas nightmare.

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That’s some crazy shit right there. And why do all the illustrations look like the faces are either covered in blood or have the measles?

10 retired cynic  May 14, 2015 9:02:26pm

re: #9 BeachDem

That’s some crazy shit right there. And why do all the illustrations look like the faces are either covered in blood or have the measles?

Used a Photoshop ‘art’ filter.

11 GlutenFreeJesus  May 14, 2015 9:04:38pm

Jeb is still bullshitting. If he thinks “safer” = many middle eastern/Asian/African countries with essentially no leadership or governance whatsoever suffering takeovers from well-armed and ruthless jihadist organizations vs. Saddam who was well-contained and even worse off than we thought… Then sure. We are better off.

12 ObserverArt  May 14, 2015 9:08:00pm

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

Just posted up on Freep. I guess this is what they use as fap material. This is their dream, and Americas nightmare.

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Wow. No words.

13 austin_blue  May 14, 2015 9:08:21pm

Invading Iraq put American troops in a Wild West bar with three vicious gangs who hated each other: Shia, Sunni, and Kurds, waving knives at each other, screaming, and us standing in between them, trying to keep the peace.

It was an impossible position from Day 1. But it fed the Neocon dream of establishing a stable democratic state as a wedge between Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria, which would protect Israel.

Nah, not so much. We bled and the Israelis kept yelling about Iran’s nuclear ambitions. So the Neocons absolutely fucked the dog, and because of the SOFA pact that GW signed, we’ve got ISIS. Yay for us!

As far as Jeb Bush is concerned, Gail Collins has a lovely OpEd piece today, which is exactly right:

nytimes.com

14 retired cynic  May 14, 2015 9:10:30pm

re: #13 austin_blue

‘My Guy’ in the Middle East sez Bush and Cheney absolutely set the whole region on fire. It is all on their heads.

15 Targetpractice  May 14, 2015 9:16:03pm

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

Just posted up on Freep. I guess this is what they use as fap material. This is their dream, and Americas nightmare.

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It’s an absolute joke is what it is. They really want to buy into this “Reagan Coalition” BS, want to believe that Havana Ted inspires anything in Democrats other than laughter. They think that the people who responded well to St. Ron’s “Aw Shucks” act will be taken in by a guy who has made being an insufferable asshole into a paying gig.

16 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 14, 2015 9:18:38pm

Just when I think UpChuck can’t possibly get any worse, he manages to surprise me. The shit he’s published about the Amtrak engineer are grounds for a libel suit.

17 teleskiguy  May 14, 2015 9:19:26pm

Click the link below. That’s Amelia Stasik, Ryan Stasik’s daughter. Ryan Stasik is bassist and founding member of my favorite rock ‘n’ roll road show Umphrey’s McGee.

I got tickled silly I was so happy when I saw this!

instagram.com

18 austin_blue  May 14, 2015 9:19:54pm

re: #14 retired cynic

‘My Guy’ in the Middle East sez Bush and Cheney absolutely set the whole region on fire. It is all on their heads.

I think that’s simplistic. The region has been en fuego for a long while, but Bush and Cheney did this country no favors in Iraq. Hussein was a complete asshole and a complete tyrant, but his country was secular and stable. The fact that that stability was maintained at gunpoint is a simple fact, but is the present situation better?

I think not.

I’m not defending him. I’m just pointing out that chaos is not a viable political option for world stability.

19 BongCrodny  May 14, 2015 9:20:36pm

It’s pretty easy to explain, really: He would have gone into Iraq AND he would have stayed out of Iraq.

Schrodinger’s Bush.

20 austin_blue  May 14, 2015 9:21:39pm

re: #19 BongCrodny

It’s pretty easy to explain, really: He would have gone into Iraq AND he would have stayed out of Iraq.

Schrodinger’s Bush.

Brilliant!

21 teleskiguy  May 14, 2015 9:22:43pm

re: #16 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Just when I think UpChuck can’t possibly get any worse, he manages to surprise me. The shit he’s published about the Amtrak engineer are grounds for a libel suit.

UpChuck already took off his shirt and is doing that stupid “Come at me, bro” frat boy bullshit.

22 Targetpractice  May 14, 2015 9:23:50pm

As for Jeb, I agree with Josh Marshall that he’s pretty much toast as of now. While the “moderates” in the GOP may be willing to sign onto the idea that the days of defending the Iraq War are past, the base is gonna hate him all the more for giving voice to their own doubts. The most telling bit is that nobody came out to defend the man, nobody wanted to be seen as standing close enough to him that they’d get hit by the shit when it inevitably hit the fan.

And if they won’t go to bat for him now, what are the odds that they’ll be out there to defend him when the debates begin and he further makes a fool of himself trying to find that sweet spot between centrism and batshit lunacy?

23 RealityBasedSteve  May 14, 2015 9:24:58pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

UpChuck already took off his shirt and is doing that stupid “Come at me, bro” frat boy bullshit.

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UpChuck makes the Pillsbury Dough Boy look chiseled.

RBS

24 BeachDem  May 14, 2015 9:26:45pm

re: #10 retired cynic

Used a Photoshop ‘art’ filter.

Well, it’s really creepy.

25 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 14, 2015 9:29:09pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

UpChuck already took off his shirt and is doing that stupid “Come at me, bro” frat boy bullshit.

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I hope someone does. I assume his in-laws and wife have no clue what he does or says online. A court case would drag all of it out into the light of day. Any lawyer worth his or her salt could build a convincing case against CCJ by combing his TL and blog for his history of libelous statements.

It’s in a perverse way a measure of his irrelevancy that no one *has* taken him to court (AFAIK). His outreach is so small, compared to sites like The Daily Caller or American Thinker, and his statements so ludicrous, that maybe some people figure it’s not worth bothering to sue.

Besides, they can’t get much money out of it if they win.

26 Joe Bacon  May 14, 2015 9:29:22pm

re: #22 Targetpractice

As for Jeb, I agree with Josh Marshall that he’s pretty much toast as of now. While the “moderates” in the GOP may be willing to sign onto the idea that the days of defending the Iraq War are past, the base is gonna hate him all the more for giving voice to their own doubts. The most telling bit is that nobody came out to defend the man, nobody wanted to be seen as standing close enough to him that they’d get hit by the shit when it inevitably hit the fan.

And if they won’t go to bat for him now, what are the odds that they’ll be out there to defend him when the debates begin and he further makes a fool of himself trying to find that sweet spot between centrism and batshit lunacy?

I agree. Jeb is toast and he’s going to be very burnt toast after Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. Looks like the Kochs are going to get the GOP nomination for their boy, Walker.

27 BeachDem  May 14, 2015 9:29:38pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

UpChuck already took off his shirt and is doing that stupid “Come at me, bro” frat boy bullshit.

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Ew—please never again put the image of a shirtless upchuck in my head. Retina burn!

28 Charles Johnson  May 14, 2015 9:32:53pm

re: #25 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Speaking of that, one of Chuck’s followers hinted at me today that she’s going to sue me for him.

29 teleskiguy  May 14, 2015 9:34:16pm

re: #25 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I hope someone does. I assume his in-laws and wife have no clue what he does or says online. A court case would drag all of it out into the light of day. Any lawyer worth his or her salt could build a convincing case against CCJ by combing his TL and blog for his history of libelous statements.

It’s in a perverse way a measure of his irrelevancy that no one *has* taken him to court (AFAIK). His outreach is so small, compared to sites like The Daily Caller or American Thinker, and his statements so ludicrous, that maybe some people figure it’s not worth bothering to sue.

Besides, they can’t get much money out of it if they win.

DING DING DING DING

30 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 14, 2015 9:34:52pm

Leaving aside the idiocy of attacking Iraq because we were attacked by 18 Saudis and one Egyptian, under the orders of a Saudi fanatic:

If I was aware that the Iraqi nuclear program, such as it was, had been dead in the water for years, so was everyone in a position of responsibility. Biological Warfare is and has always been a bust. Japan’s Unit 731 killed hundreds of thousands of Chinese, but they had to do it the old fashioned way, poisoning wells and handing out infected blankets.

I guess what shocked me more than anything else was the disingenuous promotion of chemical weapons into “Weapons of Mass Destruction”, and the fact that nobody called them on it. I mean, I was going “WTF?” the whole time, but the media just passed it on without batting an eye.

31 BeachDem  May 14, 2015 9:37:42pm

re: #25 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I assume his in-laws and wife have no clue what he does or says online.

See, I no longer believe that’s possible for the following reasons:

1. #hotasianwife was with him when he went to the wrong fundraiser and was questioned by Capitol Police. It’s really hard to believe she would have had no curiosity about what the fuck he was up to after that.

2. #hotasianwife and in-laws actually work out in the world. Although in the big picture, upchuck is a nobody, can’t imagine that not one single person in the Fresno area has ever mentioned his online antics to any of them.

3. It’s rather obvious that upchuck has no regular gainful employment. I would think that #hotasianwife and in-laws have to at some point during their busy day question what the twit is doing all day.

4. As full of himself as upchuck is, I don’t believe he would let pass any opportunity to share his many media mentions, podcast interviews, etc. with the family.

Not blaming them for his antics, but I really have a hard time believing they don’t know.

32 teleskiguy  May 14, 2015 9:41:31pm

re: #31 BeachDem

There’s been speculation here. And it goes like this: ‘As soon as I get that Green Card this hunk of slime is sooo DIVORCED!’

Only time will tell.

33 Targetpractice  May 14, 2015 9:41:51pm

re: #26 Joe Bacon

I agree. Jeb is toast and he’s going to be very burnt toast after Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. Looks like the Kochs are going to get the GOP nomination for their boy, Walker.

Whatever initial appeal Walker had seems to have disappeared, oddly right along with his poll numbers in Wisconsin. And the Kochs seem to have cooled somewhat on his winning the nomination since he went on Glenn Beck’s show and started threatening their cash cows by suggesting we need to curb legal immigration. And like Havana Ted, he has virtually no crossover appeal to Democrats.

34 CuriousLurker  May 14, 2015 9:43:45pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Speaking of that, one of Chuck’s followers hinted at me today that she’s going to sue me for him.

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LOL, I wonder how many fake #HotAsianWomen are following him?

Keiko Kitagawa glasses (she’s a Japanese actress/model)

35 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 14, 2015 9:44:20pm

re: #31 BeachDem

See, I no longer believe that’s possible for the following reasons:

1. #hotasianwife was with him when he went to the wrong fundraiser and was questioned by Capitol Police. It’s really hard to believe she would have had no curiosity about what the fuck he was up to after that.

2. #hotasianwife and in-laws actually work out in the world. Although in the big picture, upchuck is a nobody, can’t imagine that not one single person in the Fresno area has ever mentioned his online antics to any of them.

3. It’s rather obvious that upchuck has no regular gainful employment. I would think that #hotasianwife and in-laws have to at some point during their busy day question what the twit is doing all day.

4. As full of himself as upchuck is, I don’t believe he would let any opportunity to share his many media mentions, podcast interviews, etc. with the family.

Not blaming them for his antics, but I really have a hard time believing they don’t know.

Maybe, but he could easily spin his antics as “journalism” and insist that his many critics are proof of the valuable work he does exposing … something.

You have to realize, too, that there’s a relatively small group of people who pay attention to CCJ, because we are politically minded and spend time on Twitter and the Internet. A much wider population don’t know and don’t care what happens on Twitter’s political TLs. I suspect his in-laws fall in the latter group.

Being taken to court and facing the possibility of their assets being attached in a legal settlement — now, that might wake them up.

36 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 14, 2015 9:45:50pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

Whatever initial appeal Walker had seems to have disappeared, oddly right along with his poll numbers in Wisconsin. And the Kochs seem to have cooled somewhat on his winning the nomination since he went on Glenn Beck’s show and started threatening their cash cows by suggesting we need to curb legal immigration. And like Havana Ted, he has virtually no crossover appeal to Democrats.

It’s a weird year. There’s simply nobody who can be nominated, yet somebody will be. Something truly insane could happen—but I don’t know what….

37 teleskiguy  May 14, 2015 9:46:01pm

re: #34 CuriousLurker

LOL, I wonder how many fake #HotAsianWomen are following him?

It was just a few days ago, what site was it? It analyzes your Twitter followers and breaks them down into Fake, InActive or Active.

UpChuck scored pretty high on the former two, especially the former.

38 austin_blue  May 14, 2015 9:46:01pm

re: #34 CuriousLurker

LOL, I wonder how many fake #HotAsianWomen are following him?

Keiko Kitagawa glasses (she’s a Japanese actress/model)

Well, she’s a cutie!

39 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 14, 2015 9:46:09pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Speaking of that, one of Chuck’s followers hinted at me today that she’s going to sue me for him.

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How can you sue someone on behalf of a third party? She’d have no standing in the case.

40 teleskiguy  May 14, 2015 9:49:25pm

Yikes, I made a dumbass lapse in words with my #37. Now corrected because LGF comments fucking rock.

41 austin_blue  May 14, 2015 9:49:34pm

re: #39 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

How can you sue someone on behalf of a third party? She’d have no standing in the case.

Oh, you and your laws ‘n’ shit.

42 freetoken  May 14, 2015 9:50:11pm

re: #38 austin_blue

Well, she’s a cutie!

セクシー　！！！

43 CuriousLurker  May 14, 2015 9:51:27pm

About an hour ago (excuse the blurriness)—trouble brewing:

About 45 seconds after that:

44 austin_blue  May 14, 2015 9:54:21pm

re: #43 CuriousLurker

About an hour ago (excuse the blurriness)—trouble brewing:

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About 45 seconds after that:

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Peace! Would that humans…

45 RealityBasedSteve  May 14, 2015 9:55:56pm

I’ve got a friend with a 3d printer, does a lot of side work in the “Haunt / Horror / Comics” collector trade. He just did a “Joker” bust, and lets just say that it didn’t come out quite right…

Think you had a comma where you needed a period
46 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 14, 2015 9:58:53pm

re: #45 RealityBasedSteve

I’ve got a friend with a 3d printer, does a lot of side work in the “Haunt / Horror / Comics” collector trade. He just did a “Joker” bust, and lets just say that it didn’t come out quite right…

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Transporter beam malfunction

47 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 14, 2015 9:59:57pm

re: #41 austin_blue

Oh, you and your laws ‘n’ shit.

At the rate UpChuck is going, his victims could file a class action suit against him.
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48 RealityBasedSteve  May 14, 2015 10:00:55pm

re: #46 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Transporter beam malfunction

If you get broken down into an energy stream, and then that stream is rebuilt into matter at the other end, are you really the same person that left the planet?

RBS

49 austin_blue  May 14, 2015 10:03:12pm

I’m for the rack. Night all. Sweet scaly dreams.

50 CuriousLurker  May 14, 2015 10:03:51pm

re: #44 austin_blue

Peace! Would that humans…

QFT. They can be in a hissing, spitting, fur-flying fight one minute, and 15 minutes later they’re grooming each other & spooning. Unlike us humans they don’t hold grudges, at least not for more than a couple of minutes.

51 CuriousLurker  May 14, 2015 10:12:25pm

Getting late here, so I’m gonna go and leave this here for anyone who needs laughs. Some of the are pretty funny: imgur.com

My three favorites:

Later, lizards. ;-)

52 RealityBasedSteve  May 14, 2015 10:13:19pm

Well gang, I’m off to crawl under my log and get some shut-eye. Ya all be good.

Later

RBS

53 teleskiguy  May 14, 2015 10:31:32pm

re: #45 RealityBasedSteve

Looks like he forgot to carry the one.

54 Amory Blaine  May 14, 2015 10:57:41pm

What’s a hundred years or so among dropouts?

55 Amory Blaine  May 14, 2015 11:04:20pm

.

56 Amory Blaine  May 14, 2015 11:05:52pm
57 Kragar  May 14, 2015 11:08:50pm
58 teleskiguy  May 14, 2015 11:12:49pm

re: #56 Amory Blaine

59 Amory Blaine  May 14, 2015 11:18:53pm

OMG B.B. King died. :(

Legendary Blues Musician B.B. King Dead At 89

60 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 14, 2015 11:21:04pm

re: #59 Amory Blaine

RIP B.B. King

61 freetoken  May 14, 2015 11:25:13pm

re: #60 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He outlived his critics. I remember hearing, years ago, someone espousing that King wasn’t that good - decent, but not great.

That may or may not be true - I’m not really into that kind of music to say, but perseverance certainly helped his star power.

62 BeenHereAwhile  May 14, 2015 11:26:03pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

Whatever initial appeal Walker had seems to have disappeared, oddly right along with his poll numbers in Wisconsin. And the Kochs seem to have cooled somewhat on his winning the nomination since he went on Glenn Beck’s show and started threatening their cash cows by suggesting we need to curb legal immigration. And like Havana Ted, he has virtually no crossover appeal to Democrats.

I don’t see JEB’s mis-steps as fatal.

It won’t be hard for the Repubs to forgive him, as I suspect he will be eventually seen as “the anti-Hillary.”

Hillary will be the wedge issue, in addition to abortion, gun control, & SSMarriage, etc, in the Repub presidential run up.

JEB needs to publicly reconcile with Carl Rove, & W will facilitate that.

It may well be that Carl Rove also needs JEB’s campaign to restore some of Rove’s political luster.

JEB needs to quit making stupid campaigning mistakes & misstatements.

I thought he was more politically astute than that. Then again maybe he has hung out too close & too long with the S FL Republican Cuban Political mafia.

Meanwhile, Hillary is “returning to her roots.” I can’t really fault her, for what she currently is doing re her campaign.

Get out the popcorn.

63 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 14, 2015 11:28:40pm

re: #61 freetoken

He outlived his critics. I remember hearing, years ago, someone espousing that King wasn’t that good - decent, but not great.

That may or may not be true - I’m not really into that kind of music to say, but perseverance certainly helped his star power.

Many blues musicians looked up to B.B., so I wonder how anyone could say he was only “decent, but not great.” Of course, everyone has their critics.

64 Amory Blaine  May 14, 2015 11:29:50pm

He had a very friendly approachable style that invited people of all types to put aside differences and appreciate the music. I always liked this Willie Nelson remake.

…

65 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 14, 2015 11:30:08pm

re: #51 CuriousLurker

And this would be part of why I love tumblr.

66 Varek Raith  May 14, 2015 11:31:40pm

re: #65 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And this would be part of why I love tumblr.

Easy there, satan.

67 teleskiguy  May 14, 2015 11:31:52pm

It was only a matter of time. His health was a slow decline over the years.

B.B. King played blues music in front of audiences damned near ‘til the day he died. He was a consummate bluesman. Another living link to the past no longer.

RIP B.B.

68 Amory Blaine  May 14, 2015 11:33:25pm

B.B. boxes. Technique named for him.

69 teleskiguy  May 14, 2015 11:37:39pm

I think it tripe, but hell, I’m a child of the internet, so why not?

70 teleskiguy  May 14, 2015 11:40:34pm
71 Varek Raith  May 14, 2015 11:50:56pm

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72 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 12:08:56am

re: #71 Varek Raith

“I’m like web-certified!”

73 teleskiguy  May 15, 2015 12:16:12am

I never had the chance to grieve the loss of my favorite music person. I didn’t hear my first Frank Zappa song on a stereo until seven years after the man had passed.

The first Zappa recording I ever listened to: a live version of “Catholic Girls.”

I’ll never forget that moment, actually.

74 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 12:33:19am

First World problem:

Somehow my computer ended up with some Chinese PC protection program, published by Baidu. You know, the kind that sits in the background, scanning for viruses and registry changes, etc. It was eating up a lot of CPU cycles and RAM. And, I already have protection software, so I wanted to remove the Baidu program.

Not so easy. Windows Uninstall didn’t work. Trying to remove it from the Startup menu didn’t work. I couldn’t even halt the process using Process Explorer. The Baidu utility just didn’t want to go away.

So, today I booted off my Ubuntu USB stick and deleted the entire Baidu program folder. Take that, Baidu!

75 BeenHereAwhile  May 15, 2015 12:45:12am

re: #67 teleskiguy

It was only a matter of time. His health was a slow decline over the years.

B.B. King played blues music in front of audiences damned near ‘til the day he died. He was a consummate bluesman. Another living link to the past no longer.

RIP B.B.

B.B. King was also a techno enthusiast.

With all the audio, video, recording, climate, lighting, and shade controls, his last tour bus, converted in 2009, had over 4 miles of cat-5 cabling.

Every seat, driver, buddy, front lounge, crew bunk & master lounge TV had access to HDMI Satellite TV, as well independent access to a 500 HDMI movie-on-board server. The master lounge had a digital recording studio.

And B.B., if he so chose, had central control of everything.

Naturally there was also a padded cabinet for Lucille.

B.B. wanted his bus, and his long time traveling musicians to have the same creature comforts he had at home.

(My tweet back then)
BB King performing at his club in Nashville. He may be 84, but still plays like the national treasure he is.
He has no desire to retire.

77 BeenHereAwhile  May 15, 2015 12:59:41am

This must be the reason the Washington Post has such a crappy web page:

(I’ve quit attempting to open up WaPo Twitter links. The screen goes dark, and locks up my iPhone; and I have to force quit to shut down the stalled download)

@peterwsinger: Syrian Electronic Army hacks Washington Post
t.co

78 Amory Blaine  May 15, 2015 1:05:34am

re: #75 BeenHereAwhile

Thanks for that info, always nice to know about elders that don’t shy away from technology.

79 Single-handed sailor  May 15, 2015 1:10:21am

re: #77 BeenHereAwhile

This must be the reason the Washington Post has such a crappy web page:

(I’ve quit attempting to open up WaPo Twitter links. The screen goes dark, and locks up my iPhone; and I have to force quit to shut down the stalled download)

@peterwsinger: Syrian Electronic Army hacks Washington Post
t.co

I quit going to WaPo because the limit me to 6 articles a month, fuck them.

/yes know about clearing cookies, still fuck them

80 teleskiguy  May 15, 2015 1:33:24am

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81 BadExampleMan  May 15, 2015 1:34:53am

re: #36 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s a weird year. There’s simply nobody who can be nominated, yet somebody will be. Something truly insane could happen—but I don’t know what….

I was saying pretty much the same thing this time 4 years ago. Sure, Romney was “the sane one”, but his campaign was every bit as feckless and pathetic as we’ve seen from ¡Heb! so far. But in the end that didn’t matter. The big money stayed with him, unlike all the individual crank billionaires with their individual hobby crank candidates.

If the money stays with Jeb, then it’ll be Jeb. If not, then it’s going to come down to an accident of timing. The lunatic merry-go-round will spin and spin and the loons will go up and down and it’ll just be whoever happens to be ahead when the music stops.

Have I mixed enough metaphors for 1 post?

82 Varek Raith  May 15, 2015 1:36:04am

Lol…

83 CuriousLurker  May 15, 2015 2:02:40am

This hateful ASSHAT fanatic is totally pandering to to the hateful ASSHAT fanatics on this side of the world. He’s speaking exactly their language, giving them crap they can quote to “prove” they’re right about ALL Muslims.

I can’t even begin to express how badly this pisses me off. I’m pissed at the haters and pissed at the damned fools who buy into their bullshit. Aaargh!

BTW, I’m not copying & pasting the exact text because I don’t want to do their PR for them by providing searchable keywords. The source article is at the BBC (I’m not helping them spread their message by tweeting that either).

The speaker they’re referring to is allegedly the leader:

Honor? Safety? Shade?? Give me a freaking break. I’m now 150% convinced that their plan is to “inspire”—*gag*—enough foolish or ignorant Muslims on this side of the world to do stupid, violent things, thus proving them and their helpers among the (supposedly) counter-jihad crowd correct. Then some idiot will attack Muslims here, and in no time flat the entire freaking world will be doing a tit-for-tat thing that makes the Israeli-Palestinian conflict look like a freaking walk in the park.

Gahhhhhhhhhhh!

84 Nyet  May 15, 2015 2:10:05am

To me it is clear that the words “knowing what we know now” simply did not register with Jeb in the first interview. It is clear from him saying that Hillary would have done the same - he knows that Hillary would not have done the same with what we know now, so he was describing the situation without the knowledge clause. He should have admitted he misunderstood the question and moved on. Meh.

BTW, while most people who “mattered” in the US politics, incl. the Clintons and Al Gore, believed in the Iraqi WMD, to my knowledge none of them called for war. Yes, Hillary voted for authorization, it was a mistake, and she also made a mistake of not admitting her mistake. That’s bad. But it still not the same thing as actually choosing war as President. Maybe she would have, maybe she wouldn’t have, we don’t know, neither does Jeb.

Oh, and believing in Iraqi WMDs was a reasoning mistake too, even with all the “unknown” lying. E.g. Powell’s speech was an obvious sham, he didn’t present any good evidence - and that on the assumption all of his evidence was not simply made up by the US. It was a bunch of speculations and indirect inferences. Since it was supposed to be the best evidence, I don’t think Hillary et al. had seen anything better, in the internal reports, so no, they have no excuse in believing it in the first place.

85 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 2:20:01am

RIP, BB King.

….

86 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 2:37:18am

No, Jeb Bush would not have done things differently concerning Iraq. He was a signatory to the PNAC Statement of Principles on June 3, 1997, along with every other prominent NeoCon of the day.

web.archive.org

87 Nyet  May 15, 2015 2:40:08am

re: #86 Justanotherhuman

No, Jeb Bush would not have done things differently concerning Iraq.

Probably not, “knowing what they knew then”.

88 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 2:43:16am

re: #87 Nyet

Probably not, “knowing what they knew then”.

But Cheney Rumsfeld!

There are no “knowns.” There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don’t know.

89 Nyet  May 15, 2015 2:44:27am

re: #88 Justanotherhuman

I was agreeing with you.

90 Nyet  May 15, 2015 2:45:46am

re: #88 Justanotherhuman

It was not Cheney BTW.

91 Nyet  May 15, 2015 2:49:28am

I also believe Jeb when he says he wouldn’t have gone in “knowing what we know now” - when what we know now includes not only the actual info about WMDs but also the human, financial, political cost etc.

92 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 2:52:59am

re: #89 Nyet

I was agreeing with you.

Actually, that was Rumsfeld’s remarks and Q&A at a NATO presser 6/6/2002: nato.int

His signature was on that PNAC doc, also. The only significant signature missing was GWB’s.

Fourteen years can screw with your memory, esp when you’re trying to put some things behind you. I would have been content w/o a computer at that time if not for the Iraq invasion. Now I depend on it.

93 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 2:57:18am

re: #90 Nyet

It was not Cheney BTW.

Yeah, I corrected. So much of the shit that came out of those mouths back then were interchangeable. One could have said it as well as the other.

94 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 3:01:26am

I don’t think Jeb Bush has fundamentally changed the world view he held in 1997 whatsoever. It’s embedded deeply in his character.

95 Nyet  May 15, 2015 3:04:46am

re: #94 Justanotherhuman

I don’t think anyone suspects him of change ;)

96 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 3:21:18am

re: #91 Nyet

I also believe Jeb when he says he wouldn’t have gone in “knowing what we know now” - when what we know now includes not only the actual info about WMDs but also the human, financial, political cost etc.

I don’t. He’s trying to score political points both ways, and doing poorly.

JB is trying to present himself as the “kinder, gentler” brother, someone who was duped , but he’s as much of a warmonger as the others.

So, he’s caught in a dilemma of his own making.

Pres Obama learned his internationl POV at his mother’s knee and has built on that but he’s also a pragmatist. One of the major reasons I admire him.
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97 Nyet  May 15, 2015 3:22:28am

re: #96 Justanotherhuman

I don’t.

I you believe he is clinically insane, it’s your choice.

98 Dave In Austin  May 15, 2015 3:27:00am

Well Good Morning to you too Chief….

99 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 3:27:37am

re: #97 Nyet

I you believe he is clinically insane, it’s your choice.

Well, you can’t be an “American exceptionalism” cheerleader and think the rest of the world is dog shit, and the presidency, the US, and the rest of the world would suffer because of it.

100 Nyet  May 15, 2015 3:28:50am

re: #99 Justanotherhuman

That’s not really responsive to what I’m saying, but whatever.

101 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 3:30:41am

re: #100 Nyet

No, I don’t think JB is clinically insane, but nevertheless is capable of using an insane worldview, just as his brother did.

102 Nyet  May 15, 2015 3:32:18am

re: #101 Justanotherhuman

And I don’t think a sane person would do this, if only because it’s obviously against self-interest.

103 Shiplord Kirel  May 15, 2015 3:36:56am

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

Just posted up on Freep. I guess this is what they use as fap material. This is their dream, and Americas nightmare.

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Jesus wept.

104 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 3:44:53am

24 Agreements Signed Between India and China During PM Modi’s Visit

ndtv.com

105 Nyet  May 15, 2015 3:45:09am

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel

Jesus wept.

Putin’s wet dream (America in ruins).

106 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 3:47:53am

re: #105 Nyet

Putin’s wet dream (America in ruins).

Putin is floundering.

Russia’s central bank says it will extend anti-crisis measures until October to help banks weather financial crisis - @Reuters
end of alert

107 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 3:58:18am

interesting that a troll posts a dump and run comment on the troll thread downstairs.

108 Shiplord Kirel  May 15, 2015 3:58:34am

Interesting development in the case of Mark Ysasaga, a Lubbock teenager who went missing in June 2012.

Police release statement on arrest warrant in Mark Ysasaga case

Police have established that Mark was murdered and they have issued a warrant for one Jose Angel Simental. They don’t have a body though.

Iirc, this kid disappeared off the face of the Earth while walking a few blocks to a friend’s house in broad daylight.

109 Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2015 4:00:17am

Okeydokey, Lizards - off to see Mad Max: Fury Road. Gonna catch a matinee showing. I’ll let you know how it is.

Back later.

110 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 4:22:49am
111 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 4:26:53am

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

Just posted up on Freep. I guess this is what they use as fap material. This is their dream, and Americas nightmare.

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That’s gotta be a parody. GOTTA BE.

112 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 4:35:17am

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Speaking of that, one of Chuck’s followers hinted at me today that she’s going to sue me for him.

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Keiko Kitagawa was admitted to the California bar?

113 b.d.  May 15, 2015 4:57:13am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lost a tooth?

Just imagine if that were HRC who was yammering away without a front tooth.

114 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 4:59:55am

re: #113 b.d.

Lost a tooth?

Just imagine if that were HRC who was yammering away without a front tooth.

Actually, he lost two. Probably caps that came loose and fell off. From the article, it appears he had a good sense of humor about it.

115 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 5:02:09am

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

Just posted up on Freep. I guess this is what they use as fap material. This is their dream, and Americas nightmare.

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This just came across my Time Line so Libruls are ON IT

116 b.d.  May 15, 2015 5:06:40am

re: #113 b.d.

Lost a tooth?

Just imagine if that were HRC who was yammering away without a front tooth.

I saw a Ben Carson for President 2016 bumper sticker this AM, 1st one I’ve seen for any of the clowns this cycle iirc.

117 WhatEVs  May 15, 2015 5:12:23am

re: #2 RealityBasedSteve

Just posted up on Freep. I guess this is what they use as fap material. This is their dream, and Americas nightmare.

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Attorney General Mark Levin. I barked out a laugh so loud that the dogs all popped up their little heads and stared at me. Holy. Shit. That is out there.

118 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 5:15:03am

re: #116 b.d.

I saw a Ben Carson for President 2016 bumper sticker this AM, 1st one I’ve seen for any of the clowns this cycle iirc.

In spite of the wingnut meme that YOU CAN ALWAYS TELL WHO A LIBTARD IS BY TEH BUMBER STICKERS ON THERE CAR!!!!!! the only bumper stickers that I’m seeing are Detroit Tigers decals.

119 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 5:21:55am

BTW, my “free range” chicken eggs are delish. Yolk has a bit darker yellow, but that’s normal for home-grown eggs.

I also learned a way to candle them myself using an LED flash light, but these look fine—clean and no problems so far. The neighbor on the road does have a hen house, but there’s a hole in the fence where the more adventurous chickens escape from time to time.

120 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 5:24:25am

David Barton for Secy of Education?

Kill me now.

121 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 5:29:43am

I would have thought there weren’t this many fanatics who would do the bidding of ISIS against other Muslims, but obviously, I would be wrong.

Islamic State fighters use 6 suicide car bombs to reach center of Ramadi, Iraq in overnight attack - @Reuters
end of alert

122 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 5:40:18am

So, this is apparently happening:

Mitt Romney fights Evander Holyfield in a charity boxing match tonight in Salt Lake City. They’re raising money to help restore sight to those who have curable blindness.

123 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 5:50:23am

On news they’re in talks w/Chinese firms about expanding there. They would still need a special license to operate, possessed by only 7 state-owned outlets now.

Shares of Netflix at $605 per share in pre-market trading, the 1st time they’ve ever risen above $600 - @CNBCnow
cnbc.com

124 Dave In Austin  May 15, 2015 5:52:15am

re: #116 b.d.

I saw a Ben Carson for President 2016 bumper sticker this AM, 1st one I’ve seen for any of the clowns this cycle iirc.

Hell, I saw one of those 3 months ago on a rednecks P/U truck in Wilco (TX enclave of White Republican Privilige). Seeing that, I think it mostly had to do with the wholesale slaughter and religious genicide that is so common to Christians these days.
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125 CuriousLurker  May 15, 2015 5:53:40am

re: #121 Justanotherhuman

I would have thought there weren’t this many fanatics who would do the bidding of ISIS against other Muslims, but obviously, I would be wrong.

Islamic State fighters use 6 suicide car bombs to reach center of Ramadi, Iraq in overnight attack - @Reuters
end of alert

Why? They’ve been killing Muslims non-stop since they got started.

Extremists like them tend to be takfiris—i.e. they don’t consider those they’re killing to be Real Muslims™ (like themselves). The 1st and 3rd paragraphs I quoted in my #83 spell it out quite clearly: There’s no acceptable excuse (in their minds) for any Muslim not to join them, therefore any Muslim who refuses remains outside of their “shade” and is no better than all the other kuffar. As such, they shouldn’t expect any safety or rights.

It’s typical fanatic behavior-: You’re either with us or you’re against us!

126 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 5:55:08am

re: #120 Justanotherhuman

David Barton for Secy of Education?

Kill me now.

See that’s how I know it has to be a parody. A REAL CONSERVATIVE WOULD CANCEL TEH DEPARTMENT OF EDCHUKASHUN!!!!!

127 austin_blue  May 15, 2015 6:05:08am

Blues Boy has died and gone to Guitar Heaven. Lucille will wail no more.

128 Dave In Austin  May 15, 2015 6:07:02am

re: #127 austin_blue

Blues Boy has died and gone to Guitar Heaven. Lucille will wail no more.

Smithsonion?

129 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 6:12:30am
“So here’s the deal,” Bush told an audience in Arizona, “if we’re all supposed to answer hypothetical questions

Jeb! sounds awfully pouty.

130 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 6:14:10am

Russian economy contracts first time since 2009 after ruble rout - @business
read more on bloomberg.com

So, they’re building up their military even more.

Russian envoy to NATO says Russia to boost its military presence in Crimea given NATO’s plans to expand in Eastern Europe - RIA news agency via @Reuters
end of alert

131 Varek Raith  May 15, 2015 6:15:22am

re: #129 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Jeb! sounds awfully pouty.

It was the easiest hypothetical in the world to answer.
AND HE FUCKED IT UP.

132 b.d.  May 15, 2015 6:18:39am

CNN Headline:

Stephanopoulos seeks to move past Clinton donations scandal

money.cnn.com

So George donating some money to a non-political organization dedicated to solving some of the world’s problems is a scandal?

133 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 6:19:00am

My guitar gently weeps for BB King’s passing. He was a legend, and inspired so many of the guitar greats. His impact on music is felt throughout popular music in so many ways.

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134 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 6:20:04am

re: #116 b.d.

I saw a Ben Carson for President 2016 bumper sticker this AM, 1st one I’ve seen for any of the clowns this cycle iirc.

I’ve seen a few here in Maryland.

I’m proud my former church—the Seventh-Day Adventists—is declining to endorse Carson. Carson is an SDA. SDA’s can be ninnies about a lot of things, but they generally make an effort to be non-partisan. Unlike many fundamentalists/evangelicals, I was not subjected to a barrage of GOP-propaganda growing up.

135 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 6:21:40am

re: #131 Varek Raith

It was the easiest hypothetical in the world to answer.
AND HE FUCKED IT UP.

“Hey, if I knew I was gonna have to answer questions maybe I wouldn’t have run for president.”

136 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 6:23:54am

re: #131 Varek Raith

It was the easiest hypothetical in the world to answer.
AND HE FUCKED IT UP.

“So, Governor, if you oppose Obamacare, how do you think we should replace it?”

“DONT ASK ME HYPOTHETICAL QUESTIONS!!!!!!!1”

137 b.d.  May 15, 2015 6:24:33am

re: #132 b.d.

CNN Headline:

money.cnn.com

So George donating some money to a non-political organization dedicated to solving some of the world’s problems is a scandal?

YOU WOULD NEVER FIND A FOX NEWS ANCHOR IN A SCANDAL THAT INVOLVED GIVING MONIES TO A CHARITY!

FoxNews anchors host fundraisers for GOP candidates yet that doesn’t seem to be a problem.

138 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 6:24:39am

Damn, I hate when I get to LGF headquarters all bright and early and no one’s here….

139 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 6:24:39am

Manipulating the US stock market:

SEC Investigates Bogus Bid For Avon

npr.org

Of course, they’re not doing anything new, just rather clumsily.

140 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 6:25:52am

downstairs troll needs one more downding…

141 CuriousLurker  May 15, 2015 6:26:02am

re: #131 Varek Raith

It was the easiest hypothetical in the world to answer.
AND HE FUCKED IT UP.

LOL, that reminds me of @_youhadonejob.

142 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 6:26:07am

re: #138 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Damn, I hate when I get to LGF headquarters all bright and early and no one’s here….

What are we, chopped liver?

143 Great White Snark  May 15, 2015 6:27:07am

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

And done.

144 Varek Raith  May 15, 2015 6:27:31am

re: #142 Justanotherhuman

What are we, chopped liver?

I’m a bagel.

145 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 6:27:35am

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, this is apparently happening:

No. Nope.

Has the NYT been hacked?

Romney-Holyfield Truther.

146 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 6:28:39am

re: #144 Varek Raith

I’m a bagel.

Sorry, don’t ask me hypothetical questions.

/

147 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 6:29:00am

re: #142 Justanotherhuman

What are we, chopped liver?

WHY IS EVERYONE ASKING ME HYPOTHETICAL QUESTIONS???

148 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 6:29:49am

re: #143 Great White Snark

I piled on, too. : P

149 Varek Raith  May 15, 2015 6:30:46am

re: #147 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

WHY IS EVERYONE ASKING ME HYPOTHETICAL QUESTIONS???

Let’s say we weren’t asking you hypothetical questions….

150 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 6:30:58am

re: #133 lawhawk

You might like this, also.

facebook.com

151 b.d.  May 15, 2015 6:31:27am

re: #147 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

WHY IS EVERYONE ASKING ME HYPOTHETICAL QUESTIONS???

IF I KNEW THEN WHAT I KNOW NOW I WOULD NOT BE CHOPPED LIVER

152 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 6:32:05am
153 Varek Raith  May 15, 2015 6:33:16am

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

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154 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 6:33:41am

re: #141 CuriousLurker

LOL, that reminds me of @_youhadonejob.

love that Twitter account.

155 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 6:34:24am

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

downstairs troll needs one more downding…

Another over-nighter?

156 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 6:36:22am
157 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 6:37:40am

Florida:

and

good grief

158 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 6:39:54am

re: #155 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Another over-nighter?

yep.
It was a dump some derp and run away.

159 Varek Raith  May 15, 2015 6:42:00am

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep.
It was a dump some derp and run away.

Actually It’s About Ethics In Games Journalism™

160 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 6:42:18am

I just came from a rock concert on campus. It was a cover band, but really quite good. Drummer, two guitars, bass and a female singer with a killer voice — all third-year students, so it was kind of their farewell concert. Next academic year, they’ll be doing internships and shit, so mustering the band will be a lot harder.

They did Mandarin, Cantonese and English songs. The singer handled all of them really well.

I’m gonna try to upload a few videos to YouTube later, so you can see what I mean.

161 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 6:42:55am

re: #159 Varek Raith

Actually It’s About Ethics In Games JournalismTM

I could tell because of the ALL CAPS.

162 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 6:44:12am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

I could tell because of the ALL CAPS.

It was pretty funny, actually.

163 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 6:44:26am

re: #159 Varek Raith

Actually It’s About Ethics In Games JournalismTM

Hysterical Derp.

164 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 6:47:58am
165 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 6:50:03am

Chief: Miami Beach police sent hundreds of racist, pornographic emails that may have jeopardized dozens of criminal cases

bigstory.ap.org

166 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 6:50:28am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

167 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 6:50:48am
168 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 6:51:43am

Some wngnut is dropping a shit ton of Derp on @eclecticbrotha

169 Romantic Heretic  May 15, 2015 6:53:16am

re: #54 Amory Blaine

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What’s a hundred years or so among dropouts?

Arithmetic is hard!

170 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 6:55:33am

re: #167 lawhawk

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So it’s less a case of funding and more a case of the FCC dragging its feet?

172 ObserverArt  May 15, 2015 6:55:58am

re: #120 Justanotherhuman

David Barton for Secy of Education?

Kill me now.

Morning Lizardfolk.

Justanotherhuman…seeing Barton struck me as the most ridiculous of all of them. And that is saying a lot because they whole thing was pretty ridiculous.

And the artist claiming they were illustrations. Wrong, they were photo manipulations that took no time at all.

By the way, did you all know there is a new day in Washington with members of both parties working in cooperative ways that haven’t been seen in years?

Yep! I just heard it in a radio commercial for Rob (I know it is hard to remember I am one of your Ohio senators) Portman commercial.

And after that stretch of a claim, it ends by saying call him and help him support things like the replacing the ACA with smarter medical legislation blah, blah, blah.

I was looking to see if I could find a ‘net version to share with everyone, but haven’t. Portman is such a toast on warm milk kind of guy. Ugh. I hope previous Ohio Governor Strickland can take him out in 2016.

173 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 6:58:28am

re: #171 Varek Raith

Lolwhut.
Men’s rights activists call for boycott of ‘Mad Max: Fury Road,’ citing feminist agenda

Oh, give me a fucking break! These so-called Alpha males need to suck it up and act like real men, instead of a bunch of whiners.

It’s just a damn movie.

174 Feline Fearless Leader  May 15, 2015 6:59:03am

re: #83 CuriousLurker

This hateful ASSHAT fanatic is totally pandering to to the hateful ASSHAT fanatics on this side of the world. He’s speaking exactly their language, giving them crap they can quote to “prove” they’re right about ALL Muslims.

I can’t even begin to express how badly this pisses me off. I’m pissed at the haters and pissed at the damned fools who buy into their bullshit. Aaargh!

BTW, I’m not copying & pasting the exact text because I don’t want to do their PR for them by providing searchable keywords. The source article is at the BBC (I’m not helping them spread their message by tweeting that either).

The speaker they’re referring to is allegedly the leader:

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Honor? Safety? Shade?? Give me a freaking break. I’m now 150% convinced that their plan is to “inspire”—*gag*—enough foolish or ignorant Muslims on this side of the world to do stupid, violent things, thus proving them and their helpers among the (supposedly) counter-jihad crowd correct. Then some idiot will attack Muslims here, and in no time flat the entire freaking world will be doing a tit-for-tat thing that makes the Israeli-Palestinian conflict look like a freaking walk in the park.

Gahhhhhhhhhhh!
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That first paragraph sounds just like Bibi a few weeks back.
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175 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 6:59:19am

re: #167 lawhawk

To me, this is looking less and less like mere operator error and more like a combination of factors. Another response:

176 Feline Fearless Leader  May 15, 2015 6:59:55am

re: #91 Nyet

I also believe Jeb when he says he wouldn’t have gone in “knowing what we know now” - when what we know now includes not only the actual info about WMDs but also the human, financial, political cost etc.

I’m sure the Kaiser was saying that in 1918 as well.
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177 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 7:03:00am

re: #176 Feline Fearless Leader

I’m sure the Kaiser was saying that in 1918 as well.
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Well, we had expected that Britain would just sit back and let us march all over Belgium, burning down villages and slaughtering civilians, on our way to France, where we could burn down villages and slaughter civilians. Imagine our surprise when Britain objected to our clever plan and allied with France! We were dumbfounded. By that time, of course, it was too late to go home.

Our bad.

178 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 7:04:23am

re: #170 Targetpractice

So it’s less a case of funding and more a case of the FCC dragging its feet?

Combination. Amtrak has been ahead of other railroads in installing PTC, but they’re hampered by lack of funds and means to acquire the necessary mobile bandwith to get the system fully operational throughout (NEC is mostly covered, but other segments aren’t).

179 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 7:07:19am

re: #165 Justanotherhuman

Two senior officers were among the 16 involved and appeared to be the main instigators.

“Oates said the probe revealed about 230 emails demeaning to African-Americans and women or pornographic in nature. Many were depictions of crude racial jokes involving President Barack Obama or black celebrities such as golfer Tiger Woods. One shows a woman with a black eye and the caption, “Domestic violence. Because sometimes, you have to tell her more than once.”

“One of the racially offensive emails depicted a board game called “Black Monopoly” in which every square says “go to jail.”

“Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle said about 540 cases in which the officers were witnesses are being reviewed to determine if they are tainted racially. Some charges could be dropped as a result or prisoners freed from jail.”

bigstory.ap.org

180 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 7:09:20am

re: #175 Justanotherhuman

That Siemens statement doesn’t suggest anything other than fact that NTSB is evaluating all aspects of the crash to figure out what happened and Siemens is cooperating with NTSB to see what happened if there’s some kind of fault with their equipment.

The City Sprinter (ACS-64) locomotives were purchased to replace older models in use for both Acela and NEC regular service.

181 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 7:09:25am

re: #178 lawhawk

Combination. Amtrak has been ahead of other railroads in installing PTC, but they’re hampered by lack of funds and means to acquire the necessary mobile bandwith to get the system fully operational throughout (NEC is mostly covered, but other segments aren’t).

Oy vey.

182 Lidane  May 15, 2015 7:12:22am

Song of the day:

…

Rest in Peace, B.B. King. :(

183 Feline Fearless Leader  May 15, 2015 7:12:29am

re: #181 Targetpractice

Oy vey.

Usually takes people dying for installing safety measures to become any sort of priority. Poorly timed GOP budget grandstanding not helping either.

184 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 7:12:30am
185 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 7:15:43am

Good grief, Floriduh.

Glad I never looked back after leaving 56 yrs ago. Even NC, with all its faults, is better, and that’s saying something. : )

186 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 7:20:04am

re: #179 Justanotherhuman

Two senior officers were among the 16 involved and appeared to be the main instigators.

“Oates said the probe revealed about 230 emails demeaning to African-Americans and women or pornographic in nature. Many were depictions of crude racial jokes involving President Barack Obama or black celebrities such as golfer Tiger Woods. One shows a woman with a black eye and the caption, “Domestic violence. Because sometimes, you have to tell her more than once.”

“One of the racially offensive emails depicted a board game called “Black Monopoly” in which every square says “go to jail.”

“Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle said about 540 cases in which the officers were witnesses are being reviewed to determine if they are tainted racially. Some charges could be dropped as a result or prisoners freed from jail.”

bigstory.ap.org

Well, there’s a plot line that was never in CSI: Miami. But I can imagine David Caruso interrogating the cops involved and removing his sunglasses in that David Caruso way to ask that Most Important Question.

187 makeitstop  May 15, 2015 7:20:36am

I knew Mr. King was in fading health, but still…there are people you just think are going to be around forever, until they’re not.

While other guitar players taught me excess, BB King taught me economy. He was the ‘less is more’ aesthetic personified, and there will never be another like him.

188 Drive By Commenter  May 15, 2015 7:20:41am

re: #59 Amory Blaine

OMG B.B. King died. :(

Legendary Blues Musician B.B. King Dead At 89

I awoke to read BB King has passed.
Today Lucille crys. You knew it was coming. But still. BB was the master of understatement. Simple is hard. His runs had space and air to breathe. And he could pull his voice up from the depths and make the room shake. That’s the whole package.
At Sing Sing

RIP BB.

189 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 7:22:29am

Rep. Mica (GOP) was slamming Amtrak for being a 3d world system, run like a Soviet system.

That’s just days after the GOP slashed funding to Amtrak by $250 million, money that could go to fully implement PTC (among other things).

The GOP has been starving Amtrak of funds needed to maintain its ROW, let alone upgrade critical components, like bridges, tunnels, power systems, and rail alignments to allow for high speed rail and eliminate grade crossings or other needs that would improve service and reliability.

190 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 7:23:46am

Young “Blues Boy” King, 1956. Yeah, I used to boogie to this. Rhythm and Blues was just about all I listened to as a teen; my musical tastes were definitely not “white bread” at all. I can’t even repeat what my dad said when I listened to the radio, but it was racist as hell when he caught me. Only Black stations played the music I loved back then.

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191 Decatur Deb  May 15, 2015 7:24:02am

re: #180 lawhawk

That Siemens statement doesn’t suggest anything other than fact that NTSB is evaluating all aspects of the crash to figure out what happened and Siemens is cooperating with NTSB to see what happened if there’s some kind of fault with their equipment.

The City Sprinter (ACS-64) locomotives were purchased to replace older models in use for both Acela and NEC regular service.

It exactly parallels the aviation world, where Boeing or Airbus will offer a liaison to an investigation team when a plane goes in anywhere in the world. You can read it as CYA or proactive response, but the NTSB is very good at controlling it.

192 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 7:24:54am
193 Lidane  May 15, 2015 7:25:14am

What right wing sexism?

194 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 7:27:23am

re: #193 Lidane

What right wing sexism?

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Fox News has stumbled upon time travel. That guest must have come from the 1950s.

195 iossarian  May 15, 2015 7:29:40am

re: #193 Lidane

What right wing sexism?

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Look at those dingleberries in the picture.

“Well, Shawnda, I guess women just like it when their fathers marry them off at 12 to the richest goat magnate in the land.”

“You know, Chet, that’s right. And now let’s talk about how drilling for oil is actually a way to preserve our nation’s magnificent forests.”

196 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 7:29:52am

re: #193 Lidane

What right wing sexism?

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“Women do earn less in American because they choose to,” he said. “They would rather go to their daughter’s piano recital than stay all night at work”

Who actually WOULD rather “stay all night” at work. That’s fucked up.

I put in a SHIT TON of overtime back in the day and I didn’t even get paid for it because I was “exempt, professional”

197 darthstar  May 15, 2015 7:30:09am

Morning gang

198 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 7:30:10am

re: #180 lawhawk

That Siemens statement doesn’t suggest anything other than fact that NTSB is evaluating all aspects of the crash to figure out what happened and Siemens is cooperating with NTSB to see what happened if there’s some kind of fault with their equipment.

The City Sprinter (ACS-64) locomotives were purchased to replace older models in use for both Acela and NEC regular service.

And that’s the way it should be.

Just trying to add a corrective to the kind of shit Chucky is engaged in rather than totallying laying blame/smearing before an investigation is completed.

But I’m also betting there will be an end result with a number of factors contributing to the crash.

199 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 7:30:58am

re: #194 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Fox News has stumbled upon time travel. That guest must have come from the 1950s.

1850s.

200 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 7:32:39am
201 Great White Snark  May 15, 2015 7:33:20am

nbcnews.com

In this corner, weighing in at 236 pounds: Evander Holyfield, the former heavyweight champion of the world.

And in this corner, weighing in at 179 pounds — Mitt Romney? The former Republican presidential nominee?

Relax. It’s for a good cause: They’re stepping into the ring Friday night in Salt Lake City to raise money for Charity Vision, which fights blindness in some of the poorest countries in the world.

202 Lidane  May 15, 2015 7:33:34am

OK. I give. This is adorable:

203 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 7:33:49am

re: #199 Justanotherhuman

1850s.

Point taken.

204 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 7:34:16am

re: #195 iossarian

Look at those dingleberries in the picture.

“Well, Shawnda, I guess women just like it when their fathers marry them off at 12 to the richest goat magnate in the land.”

“You know, Chet, that’s right. And now let’s talk about how drilling for oil is actually a way to preserve our nation’s magnificent forests.”

Believe it or not, she was actually giving him and Hannity shit for suggesting she’d be happier married with kids and laughing at such statements respectively. She thought she was there to be the token woman to bash Hillary, but instead was turned into the subject of her own little shaming session for being anything than a homemaker and mother.

205 ObserverArt  May 15, 2015 7:35:09am

re: #187 makeitstop

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I knew Mr. King was in fading health, but still…there are people you just think are going to be around forever, until they’re not.

While other guitar players taught me excess, BB King taught me economy. He was the ‘less is more’ aesthetic personified, and there will never be another like him.

Great comment. When I was younger and was always impressed by the player with the fast hands playing a thousand notes a minute I many times overlooked a player like B.B. King.

Now, I am on the other end of the spectrum and when I hear a guy doing the thousand notes all I can say is, well, that’s nice, but can you actually play something that has some melody, dynamics and feel.

Rest in Piece B.B. You went out a legend. They can’t take that away from you bluesman.

206 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 7:37:37am
207 Decatur Deb  May 15, 2015 7:37:38am

re: #201 Great White Snark

nbcnews.com

The unskewed bookies have Romney winning by a TKO in the second.

208 Feline Fearless Leader  May 15, 2015 7:38:59am

re: #207 Decatur Deb

The unskewed bookies have Romney winning by a TKO in the second.

They forgot to ban use of the Romneybot eye lasers.

And they’re giving Holyfield a long blonde wig to tempt Romney to want to trim it.
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209 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 7:40:01am
210 darthstar  May 15, 2015 7:40:02am

re: #196 Lord Of The Pies

Who actually WOULD rather “stay all night” at work. That’s fucked up.

I put in a SHIT TON of overtime back in the day and I didn’t even get paid for it because I was “exempt, professional”

I don’t believe in overtime. Overtime pay for hourly workers is fine, but I don’t believe in working more than eight hours a day… including an hour for lunch. At least not more than once a month or two.

I see being exempt as just that.

211 Drive By Commenter  May 15, 2015 7:40:48am

re: #207 Decatur Deb

Holyfield will probably get tangled up in all the wires holding the Marionette upright.

212 ObserverArt  May 15, 2015 7:42:13am

re: #193 Lidane

What right wing sexism?

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Somebody needs to stuff a dirty rag in that idiots mouth. He is an embarrassment to men all humans.

213 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 7:42:37am

Oh look A Idiot in my TimeLine==>

214 darthstar  May 15, 2015 7:43:23am

re: #211 Drive By Commenter

Holyfield will probably get tangled up in all the wires holding the Marionette upright.

Someone should slip Holyfield a little acid before he gets in the ring. Hey that’s Mike Tyson!

215 Lidane  May 15, 2015 7:43:25am
216 Great White Snark  May 15, 2015 7:44:44am

re: #196 Lord Of The Pies

Who actually WOULD rather “stay all night” at work. That’s fucked up.

I put in a SHIT TON of overtime back in the day and I didn’t even get paid for it because I was “exempt, professional”

I swear that’s the one single thing that could be a straightforward labor law change and seriously improve the 99%er economy. Where i work everyone gets paid for extra hours including long time foreman of the shop and the COO. I’ll be hollering for that at each and every candidate with a shot at trying to make that happen.

217 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 7:45:05am

re: #213 Lord Of The Pies

Oh look A Idiot in my TimeLine==>

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I’m sure that such advice is a total revelation to the thousands of college diploma holders who are working at McD’s because all those jobs they were promised would be there for them got shipped to India.

218 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 7:45:29am
219 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 7:46:52am

re: #213 Lord Of The Pies

Oh look A Idiot in my TimeLine==>

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BUT IF YOU EVER WORKED AT TARGET YOU NOT QUALIFIED TO BE A TRAIN ENGINEER…NEVER EVER!!11!!!

220 Timothy Watson  May 15, 2015 7:48:49am

re: #215 Lidane

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I’m sure the wingnuts will spin that statement somehow:
HURR HURR WHY DOES OBAMA HATE WHITE MUSICIANS?!?!?!?!

Or:
HURR HURR OBAMA IS TOO WORRIED ABOUT MUSICIANS TO STOP ISIS!!1!

221 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 7:49:16am

re: #210 darthstar

I don’t believe in overtime. Overtime pay for hourly workers is fine, but I don’t believe in working more than eight hours a day… including an hour for lunch. At least not more than once a month or two.

I see being exempt as just that.

But exempt is never that, not that I’ve seen in 50+ years of working. Would I like it be changed? Of course. At some places I worked, though, the bonuses mgrs and other exempt employees received made my overtime pay look like peanuts.

222 WhatEVs  May 15, 2015 7:52:43am

re: #131 Varek Raith

It was the easiest hypothetical in the world to answer.
AND HE FUCKED IT UP.

But, but, but…he’s the SMART one!

223 WhatEVs  May 15, 2015 7:53:39am

re: #132 b.d.

CNN Headline:

money.cnn.com

So George donating some money to a non-political organization dedicated to solving some of the world’s problems is a scandal?

To talking heads who need something to blather on about, of course it is.

224 darthstar  May 15, 2015 7:54:35am

Paul Ryan can suck my dick.
thinkprogress.org

225 Timothy Watson  May 15, 2015 7:55:01am

Montana man:

A Hamilton, Montana man is behind bars after shooting his bartender early Saturday morning. 59-year old Monte Hanson had ordered a “red beer,” beer with tomato juice, but when he learned he had been served Clamato, a tomato and clam juice mixture, he was furious.

After the bar closed, Hanson reportedly went to the home of Joe Lewis, the 29-year old bartender. Hanson says it’s against his religious beliefs - he is Jewish - to drink Clamato, so he allegedly shot Lewis.

“Court records said he told a neighbor later that he was going to retaliate and kill Lewis,” the Montana Standard reports.

thenewcivilrightsmovement.com

via Wonkette.

226 #FergusonFireside  May 15, 2015 7:57:41am

Heeeeey. Last day of work. Last day of commute. Going out with a bang: rain & jack knifed big rig. It appears I’ll never get there.

227 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 7:58:04am

Early BB King, 1951 age 25 or 26.

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228 Lidane  May 15, 2015 7:58:30am

re: #223 WhatEVs

money.cnn.com

So George donating some money to a non-political organization dedicated to solving some of the world’s problems is a scandal?

To talking heads who need something to blather on about, of course it is.

The RWNJs online are going with the ZOMG WORSE THAN BRIAN WILLIAMS line right now. Fox News is wailing about those donations being career killers. There was even some doofus writer on Mediaite hitting his fainting couch saying that Stephanopoulos needs to be benched from all the Sunday talk shows because of this.

Really?

Stephanopoulos rose to prominence in Bill Clinton’s ‘92 campaign. He worked in the Clinton White House, for fuck’s sake. Anyone with a pulse knows he’s a Democrat and a Clinton loyalist. His contributions are not a big deal, especially since he’s recused himself from any GOP debates.

By the RWNJ’s logic, Roger Ailes needs to be fired from Fox News because he worked as a consultant for Nixon, Reagan, and both Bushes.

229 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 7:58:30am

A funny for Kragar and the other gamers here:

230 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 8:00:51am

HURR HURR!!!!!! LIBTARDS IS TEH STUPIDS!!!!!!

231 ObserverArt  May 15, 2015 8:01:10am

re: #224 darthstar

Paul Ryan can suck my dick.
thinkprogress.org

…to be blunt about it!

: )

232 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 8:02:17am

re: #228 Lidane

Oh hell, it’s on MSNBC and everywhere.

FFS, why? He’s a private individual who can give whatever he wants to a charity.

And BTW,, he’s not running for anything, so why should he even have to report it at all?

233 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 8:02:51am

heh:

234 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 8:03:18am

re: #228 Lidane

The RWNJs online are going with the ZOMG WORSE THAN BRIAN WILLIAMS line right now. Fox News is wailing about those donations being career killers. There was even some doofus writer on Mediaite hitting his fainting couch saying that Stephanopoulos needs to be benched from all the Sunday talk shows because of this.

Really?

Stephanopoulos rose to prominence in Bill Clinton’s ‘92 campaign. He worked in the Clinton White House, for fuck’s sake. Anyone with a pulse knows he’s a Democrat and a Clinton loyalist. His contributions are not a big deal, especially since he’s recused himself from any GOP debates.

By the RWNJ’s logic, Roger Ailes needs to be fired from Fox News because he worked as a consultant for Nixon, Reagan, and both Bushes.

I’m personally just shaking my head at the wingnuts who will scream themselves hoarse over the idea of “free speech” being endangered by making people’s political donations public knowledge actually suggesting that George has somehow betrayed our trust by giving money to the Clinton Foundation.

235 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 8:04:08am

So stupid, does not realize McConnell is GOP

236 darthstar  May 15, 2015 8:04:09am

re: #231 ObserverArt

…to be blunt about it!

: )

Just wanted to reach him in language he might understand.

237 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 8:06:31am

I blocked it.

238 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 8:07:56am

re: #237 Lord Of The Pies

I blocked it.

Very wise

239 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 8:08:41am

Are Faux News personnel going to reveal whose charities they give to?

I’ll bet they are forcefully required to give to whoever has ever been on the channel because rightwing is rightwing.

And nothing said about Ailes who hires has-beens like Payme and Huckleberry, among others, and keeps them in the public eye.

240 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 8:10:32am
241 Eventual Carrion  May 15, 2015 8:12:10am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Get John Ashcroft on the case!

242 Timothy Watson  May 15, 2015 8:12:17am

re: #235 Lord Of The Pies

So stupid, does not realize McConnell is GOP

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Using a screenshot of an ad from Alison Grimes no less.

243 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 8:13:26am
244 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 15, 2015 8:15:23am

re: #193 Lidane

What right wing sexism?

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What a grand mansplanation of gender inequality. Now let’s see just how mom stays home when a two earner household is mandated by the fact that the 1% has sucked up all but 10% of the fucking assets in this country.

245 Eventual Carrion  May 15, 2015 8:16:18am

re: #206 Lord Of The Pies

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Old requisition forms are hard to change.

246 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 8:19:17am

re: #244 Higgs Boson’s Mate

What a grand mansplanation of gender inequality. Now let’s see just how mom stays home when a two earner household is mandated by the fact that the 1% has sucked up all but 10% of the fucking assets in this country.

I saw a statistic the other day, from 2010, that only 10% of American married-couple families have a woman who stays at home full time and a man who works out of the home full time. Anyone who suggests otherwise is simply speaking a dope.

247 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 15, 2015 8:21:59am

re: #245 Eventual Carrion

Old requisition forms are hard to change.

Someone didn’t use the new cover sheet for the TPS report.

248 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 8:25:29am

re: #246 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I saw a statistic the other day, from 2010, that only 10% of American married-couple families have a woman who stays at home full time and a man who works out of the home full time. Anyone who suggests otherwise is simply speaking a dope.

You’re not seeing things from the MRA perspective. In their fantasy world, the reason for such a situation is that all the women are out there, competing with men for the same well-paying jobs. If all the women just stayed home to take care of the home or devoted themselves solely to finding a sugar daddy, then men would have loads more jobs to choose from and single-worker households would be the majority again.

249 Dr. Matt  May 15, 2015 8:25:57am

How Anti-Vaxxers Sound to Normal People

…

250 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 15, 2015 8:28:44am

re: #246 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I saw a statistic the other day, from 2010, that only 10% of American married-couple families have a woman who stays at home full time and a man who works out of the home full time. Anyone who suggests otherwise is simply speaking a dope.

That holds true even in my solidly middle class, mostly white community. I volunteered as a crossing guard at our local Elementary school and the number of stay at home moms was vanishingly small.

251 Feline Fearless Leader  May 15, 2015 8:30:30am

re: #248 Targetpractice

You’re not seeing things from the MRA perspective. In their fantasy world, the reason for such a situation is that all the women are out there, competing with men for the same well-paying jobs. If all the women just stayed home to take care of the home or devoted themselves solely to finding a sugar daddy, then men would have loads more jobs to choose from and single-worker households would be the majority again.

Along with the women returning to the kitchen causing wages to magically increase due to the reduced competition?

These people seem to have cause and effect logic reversed in their efforts to make reality fit their dream world.
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252 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 8:30:34am

re: #248 Targetpractice

You’re not seeing things from the MRA perspective. In their fantasy world, the reason for such a situation is that all the women are out there, competing with men for the same well-paying jobs. If all the women just stayed home to take care of the home or devoted themselves solely to finding a sugar daddy, then men would have loads more jobs to choose from and single-worker households would be the majority again.

You see, the problem is, I think MRAs are full of shit — a bunch of sad sack whiners who act like the world (especially women) fucking owe them special privileges just because they’re male.

253 darthstar  May 15, 2015 8:30:53am

Bibi has a price.

254 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 8:34:14am

re: #250 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That holds true even in my solidly middle class, mostly white community. I volunteered as a crossing guard at our local Elementary school and the number of stay at home moms was vanishingly small.

Two-earner families have been the norm since the 1960s, I think. If Mr and Mrs X want a nice house, two cars and money for a tidy suburban lifestyle, both of them have to work. It’s economics 101.

255 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 8:36:15am

re: #251 Feline Fearless Leader

Along with the women returning to the kitchen causing wages to magically increase due to the reduced competition?

These people seem to have cause and effect logic reversed in their efforts to make reality fit their dream world.
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Their logic (and I use the term loosely) is that businesses only hire women because they’re cheaper than men, doing the same job a man could do for less and thus driving down wages. But if women left the workforce and went back to being homemakers, employers would be forced to hire men to do those jobs, raising wages overall because men doing more demanding work would demand higher wages.

Bear in mind that the morons making this argument are usually the same ones who respond to calls for a living wage with “They’ll just replace you with a robot!!!”

256 Feline Fearless Leader  May 15, 2015 8:38:58am

re: #254 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Two-earner families have been the norm since the 1960s, I think. If Mr and Mrs X want a nice house, two cars and money for a tidy suburban lifestyle, both of them have to work. It’s economics 101.

I think my mother did it in the 70s partially for that and partially for wanting to work in something in order to apply her education. Once the youngest child (me) hit about age 7 my mother was doing summer classes to work on a masters degree, and then eventually working as a librarian in an elementary school.

And thinking about it I think just about all our neighbors in our middle-class area were two-earner families (or 1.5) with the exceptions being for medical reasons.

257 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 8:39:51am

re: #255 Targetpractice

Their logic (and I use the term loosely) is that businesses only hire women because they’re cheaper than men, doing the same job a man could do for less and thus driving down wages. But if women left the workforce and went back to being homemakers, employers would be forced to hire men to do those jobs, raising wages overall because men doing more demanding work would demand higher wages.

Bear in mind that the morons making this argument are usually the same ones who respond to calls for a living wage with “They’ll just replace you with a robot!!!”

Yeah. Complete fantasy.

258 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 8:40:14am
259 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 8:42:10am

hahahahahahaaaa

260 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 8:42:48am

re: #250 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That holds true even in my solidly middle class, mostly white community. I volunteered as a crossing guard at our local Elementary school and the number of stay at home moms was vanishingly small.

Haha, the majority are elderly caretakers like me. : )

261 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 8:44:24am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahahaaaa

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More accurate headline: “Rick Perry will announce second bid at a last place finish June 4th.”

Does anybody really take Goodhair seriously anymore?

262 Feline Fearless Leader  May 15, 2015 8:44:41am

re: #257 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yeah. Complete fantasy.

They’d probably want their wives (if they have one) replaced by a compliant robot as well.
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263 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 8:46:33am

re: #256 Feline Fearless Leader

I think my mother did it in the 70s partially for that and partially for wanting to work in something in order to apply her education. Once the youngest child (me) hit about age 7 my mother was doing summer classes to work on a masters degree, and then eventually working as a librarian in an elementary school.

And thinking about it I think just about all our neighbors in our middle-class area were two-earner families (or 1.5) with the exceptions being for medical reasons.

It’s just *normal* for mom and dad to work now. Been that way for decades. Even among my friends who are professionals (in the States AND in China), both partners work outside the home. They don’t have to. Each one makes enough that they could live comfortably, but if they want to keep up with the Joneses (McMansion, swanky cars, exotic vacays, etc.) that single income is just not enough. Add a college-age child or two, then two incomes is absolutely necessary.

Trying to turn back the clock to the fantasy days of stay-at-home Moms is futile. But isn’t everything lately an attempt to turn back the clock to some halcyon era when white men of means were the top dogs and everyone else were lowly curs?

264 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 8:47:30am

re: #262 Feline Fearless Leader

They’d probably want their wives (if they have one) replaced by a compliant robot as well.
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Stepford Wives, v. 3.0

265 Dr. Matt  May 15, 2015 8:48:22am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahahaaaa

Breaking: Rick Perry will announce second bid for president June 4, @pfikac reports: t.co #txlege pic.twitter.com

— Kolten Parker (@KoltenParker) May 15, 2015

So, what’s current count of the GOP klown kar….42, 43?

266 darthstar  May 15, 2015 8:49:01am

re: #261 Targetpractice

More accurate headline: “Rick Perry will announce second bid at a last place finish June 4th.”

Does anybody really take Goodhair seriously anymore?

It’s the glasses.

267 freetoken  May 15, 2015 8:49:41am

re: #265 Dr. Matt

Remember, it’s bigger on the inside than on the outside, so there is no practical limit on the number of clowns.

268 darthstar  May 15, 2015 8:50:27am

I find it refreshing that Jeb is so stupid that Rick Perry feels safe entering the race.

269 Feline Fearless Leader  May 15, 2015 8:50:39am

re: #263 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s just *normal* for mom and dad to work now. Been that way for decades. Even among my friends who are professionals (in the States AND in China), both partners work outside the home. They don’t have to. Each one makes enough that they could live comfortably, but if they want to keep up with the Joneses (McMansion, swanky cars, exotic vacays, etc.) that single income is just not enough. Add a college-age child or two, then two incomes is absolutely necessary.

Trying to turn back the clock to the fantasy days of stay-at-home Moms is futile. But isn’t everything lately an attempt to turn back the clock to some halcyon era when white men of means were the top dogs and everyone else were lowly curs?

Pretty much. One reason that when you see that sort of commentary it’s a major clue that you’re dealing with someone who is either clueless or chasing a pipe dream agenda based on white patriarchy.

270 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 8:51:08am

re: #265 Dr. Matt

So, what’s current count of the GOP klown kar….42, 43?

Well, to be more accurate, not all of them have actually announced they’re running. I think right now the only ones who’ve actually committed themselves are Cruz, Paul, Rubio, Carson, Fiorina, and Huck. The rest either have hinted at a run or are “exploring” a run.

271 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 8:51:21am

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hamilton NJ facility was among those affected way back when in the anthrax scares, which is why they’re taking this seriously. It’s a major USPS facility.

272 darthstar  May 15, 2015 8:51:44am

re: #267 freetoken

Remember, it’s bigger on the inside than on the outside, so there is no practical limit on the number of clowns.

That’s what ….no, don’t.

273 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 8:53:35am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahahaaaa

Don’t talk to me. I’m still having a hard time processing John Bolton’s Mustache not entering the race.

274 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 8:54:07am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

275 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 8:54:22am

re: #271 lawhawk

Hamilton NJ facility was among those affected way back when in the anthrax scares, which is why they’re taking this seriously. It’s a major USPS facility.

Used to live right near there. Hamilton borders the city of Trenton.

276 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 8:55:01am

Three minutes of overwhelming corgi puppy cuteness in slow motion:

…

(my favorite is the puppies trying to run up the garden steps..they look like ungraceful bunnies)

277 Feline Fearless Leader  May 15, 2015 8:55:06am

re: #266 darthstar

It’s the glasses.

If that’s the case I’d rather have Keiko Kitagawa in the clown car than Perry.
/

278 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 8:55:36am

Matisse painting looted by Nazi regime returned to Jewish owners after being discovered 2 years ago in Munich apartment - @NBCNews

nbcnews.com

279 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 8:56:06am

re: #274 lawhawk

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He officially goes on sale June 4th (wink wink, nudge nudge).

280 Feline Fearless Leader  May 15, 2015 8:56:13am

Avatar opinion question for the Lizards. Stay with “Eye of Feline” peering through the oval, or go back to previous picture of all of Chat Noir?

281 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 8:56:44am

BTW, got a real winner re: Amtrak, funding, and that the GOP is slashing and burning its funding for infrastructure on Twitter.

He doesn’t like funding stuff on other side of country if he’s not using it. Mind you, NY, NJ, and CT send billions more to the feds than they get in return, so if we want to play that game, his state would probably be out of luck.

And if you want to play by usage, then most roads don’t make money and aren’t sufficiently funded by users, so we should limit their funding to only those that turn a profit (which would still be urban areas, many interstates, and leave the locals to their own devices).

282 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 8:57:00am

re: #280 Feline Fearless Leader

Avatar opinion question for the Lizards. Stay with “Eye of Feline” peering through the oval, or go back to previous picture of all of Chat Noir?

I say aye to the eye…

283 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 8:59:16am

re: #279 Targetpractice

284 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 8:59:58am
285 darthstar  May 15, 2015 9:01:37am

@darthstar99: Sweden’s New Defense Strategy Against Russian Submarines Is A Gay Dancing Sailor dify.me

Funny shit.

They are literally baiting the Ruskies.

Even better, the sign sends out an ongoing stream of morse code. Any nearby underwater lurkers will get the message: “This way if you are gay.”/blockquote>

286 darthstar  May 15, 2015 9:04:34am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

I say aye to the eye…

Aye aye I too. But these kinds of decisions are too big for one person to make on their own.

287 darthstar  May 15, 2015 9:05:26am

I also like le chat noir

288 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 9:07:44am

Ireland arrests 5, finds bombs before next week’s visit by Prince Charles - @nytimes
nytimes.com

289 Dr. Matt  May 15, 2015 9:12:20am

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Florida:

OPD: I-Drive pub owner accused of holding couple at gunpoint, making racist comments t.co pic.twitter.com

— Orlando Sentinel (@orlandosentinel) May 14, 2015

But, remember: “an armed society is a polite society.”

290 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 9:17:34am

NO. JUST. NO.

291 Ace-o-aces  May 15, 2015 9:18:02am
292 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 9:19:17am

All of a sudden Chrome is really, really, really slow.

293 wrenchwench  May 15, 2015 9:21:53am

re: #292 Lord Of The Pies

All of a sudden Chrome is really, really, really slow.

You deserve it for #290.

294 Feline Fearless Leader  May 15, 2015 9:23:01am

re: #292 Lord Of The Pies

All of a sudden Chrome is really, really, really slow.

Yep. I’m at the point with my laptop that I can run Itunes, browser (Firefox or Chrome), or a game application; choose one. Could run all three at the same time six months ago. It’s not the game app that has gone bloatware or runaway memory leaks.
:p

295 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 9:24:05am

re: #290 Lord Of The Pies

NO. JUST. NO.

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Christ, I thought it was bad enough that they grew to the size of a grown man’s fist and would actively attack you with a bite that can kill. But now they’re falling from the sky?

Just how crazy do you have to be to live on that godforsaken continent?

296 wrenchwench  May 15, 2015 9:25:32am
297 Amory Blaine  May 15, 2015 9:26:07am

re: #207 Decatur Deb

The unskewed bookies have Romney winning by a TKO in the second.

Not if Holyfield deflates his head!
//

299 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 9:30:40am

re: #298 Dr. Matt

Texas Open Carry Leader Terrorist: ‘Founding Fathers Would Be Shooting Back’

Yeah they would def shoot at the douchemoron in the lame hat for fashion crimes against humanity.

300 Amory Blaine  May 15, 2015 9:31:05am

re: #273 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Don’t talk to me. I’m still having a hard time processing John Bolton’s Mustache not entering the race.

Came in 5th at Kentucky Derby.

301 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 9:33:00am

How to clean up in orbit, by Sam Cristoforetti.
Video

302 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 9:38:24am

The Texas Christian wingnut who wrote about the FOUR BLOOD MOONS has a new book out about THE THREE HEAVENS.

Um, can we follow up about the BLOOD MOONS thing? Did that happen? Should we still be afraid of the BLOOD MOONS?

//

303 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 9:39:21am

re: #295 Targetpractice

Christ, I thought it was bad enough that they grew to the size of a grown man’s fist and would actively attack you with a bite that can kill. But now they’re falling from the sky?

Just how crazy do you have to be to live on that godforsaken continent?

Especially with Mad Max and the zombies running around with no water, gas or bullets.

304 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 9:41:26am

re: #302 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The Texas Christian wingnut who wrote about the FOUR BLOOD MOONS has a new book out about THE THREE HEAVENS.

Um, can we follow up about the BLOOD MOONS thing? Did that happen? Should we still be afraid of the BLOOD MOONS?

//

These people have short term memory loss. Those were the old signs and portents. These are the new signs and portents.

305 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 9:42:26am

Also, barking lunatic Michael Savage has a “novel” out something Countdown to Mecca. I’m sure it’s a sensible read.

/////

306 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 9:43:04am

re: #304 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

These people have short term memory loss. Those were the old signs and portents. These are the new signs and portents.

These guys never have to answer for any of their lunacy.

307 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 15, 2015 9:43:31am

re: #292 Lord Of The Pies

All of a sudden Chrome is really, really, really slow.

Have you ever seen what spiders can do to a computer? I’d start running now.

308 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 9:45:21am

re: #295 Targetpractice

Christ, I thought it was bad enough that they grew to the size of a grown man’s fist and would actively attack you with a bite that can kill. But now they’re falling from the sky?

Just how crazy do you have to be to live on that godforsaken continent?

Something about the climate being nice. In return, you have to watch out for the critters that would just as soon you leave ASAP.

It’s the same in Africa. You get in the habit of shaking your shoes upside down before putting them on, in case some insect or spider has crawled in overnight.

309 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 9:45:46am

That’s so weird. I just blocked a bunch of wingnuts on Twitter and now suddenly Chrome is rolling again.

310 Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2015 9:46:22am

OK…..got back from Mad Max: Fury Road.

And it was indeed 4 out of 4 stars. Very well done film, with (as other have noted) a feminist undercurrent.

Well written. Well acted (especially Charlize Theron, who’s created the greatest ass-kicker since Linda Hamilton in T2 - and she owned this film), stuntwork that puts pretty much every recent action film in the shade and stunning editing and cinematography. Aside from the anarchic action scenes, there are some genuinely emotionally resonant moments in the film.

George Miller is back, showing the kids how it’s done.

311 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 9:46:24am

Teh Derp is clogging up Teh Internets.

312 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 15, 2015 9:47:11am

re: #306 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

These guys never have to answer for any of their lunacy.

The flock never questions the pastor’s authority, coz he speaks for Gawd-duh.

313 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 9:47:27am

re: #310 Dr Lizardo

OK…..got back from Mad Max: Fury Road.

And it was indeed 4 out of 4 stars. Very well done film, with (as other have noted) a feminist undercurrent.

Well written. Well acted (especially Charlize Theron, who’s created the greatest ass-kicker since Linda Hamilton in T2 - and she owned this film), stuntwork that puts pretty much every recent action film in the shade and stunning editing and cinematography. Aside from the anarchic action scenes, there are some genuinely emotionally resonant moments in the film.

George Miller is back, showing the kids how it’s done.

How was Hardy as Max?

314 Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2015 9:48:36am

re: #313 Targetpractice

How was Hardy as Max?

Quite good. He inhabited the role of Max Rockatansky quite nicely, I’d say.

315 wrenchwench  May 15, 2015 9:50:39am

BEES And spiders and stuff.

316 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 9:53:31am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Unless you consider they misspelled LIBERTARIANISM

317 Dr. Matt  May 15, 2015 9:53:58am

re: #310 Dr Lizardo

OK…..got back from Mad Max: Fury Road.

And it was indeed 4 out of 4 stars. Very well done film, with (as other have noted) a feminist undercurrent.

Well written. Well acted (especially Charlize Theron, who’s created the greatest ass-kicker since Linda Hamilton in T2 - and she owned this film), stuntwork that puts pretty much every recent action film in the shade and stunning editing and cinematography. Aside from the anarchic action scenes, there are some genuinely emotionally resonant moments in the film.

George Miller is back, showing the kids how it’s done.

Apparently the Men’s Rights dipshits forgot that Tina Turner was the founder and ruler of Bartertown and had Max imprisoned.

318 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 9:57:25am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

Apparently the Men’s Rights dipshit forgot that Tina Turner was the founder and ruler of Bartertown and had Max imprisoned.

Who run Bartertown?!

/

319 Timothy Watson  May 15, 2015 9:58:32am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

Apparently the Men’s Rights dipshit forgot that Tina Turner was the founder and ruler of Bartertown and had Max imprisoned.

LIES!1!! THAT FILM NEVER HAPPENED!!1!

320 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 9:59:32am

Far Right Blames Amtrak Crash On Engineer’s Gay Rights Activism

The usual suspect figures prominently…

321 Kragar  May 15, 2015 10:05:57am
322 Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2015 10:06:18am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

Apparently the Men’s Rights dipshit forgot that Tina Turner was the founder and ruler of Bartertown and had Max imprisoned.

Yeah, exactly. Aunty Entity was another very strong female character in the Mad Max franchise - one the MRA’s seem to have forgotten.

323 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 10:07:06am

Someone is busy…

324 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 10:08:26am
325 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2015 10:09:57am
326 Dr. Matt  May 15, 2015 10:14:23am

NOT from The Onion:

NOT From The Onion. #derp

Read the rest here: spectator.org

327 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 10:15:25am

re: #326 Dr. Matt

NOT from The Onion:

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Read the rest here: spectator.org

All they need is Chuck to make it a Triple Crown of Derp

328 Skip Intro  May 15, 2015 10:15:57am

re: #213 Lord Of The Pies

Oh look A Idiot in my TimeLine==>

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Doesn’t McDonald’s CEO work at McDonalds as a career? Do these Twitter morons ever think at all?

329 Kragar  May 15, 2015 10:16:34am

The schoolbook took great pains to point out that the southern states had every right to secede from the Union and only attempted to leave in order to “keep their rights.”

According to the textbook, ravaged post-war Alabama relied upon the Ku Klux Klan — filled with “The loyal white men of Alabama” — to help reestablish order after the state was inundated with outside-agitating “carpetbaggers.”

“They (the Klan) held their courts in the dark forests at night; they passed sentence on the criminals and they carried out the sentence. Sometimes the sentence would be to leave the state. After a while the Klan struck fear in the hearts of the “carpetbaggers” and other lawless men who had taken control of the state…. The Negroes who had been fooled by the false promises of the “carpetbaggers” decided to get themselves jobs and settle down to make an honest living.

This, in turn, was appreciated by the recently freed slaves:

330 De Kolta Chair  May 15, 2015 10:17:13am

re: #321 Kragar

“What did I just see???”
331 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 10:18:21am

re: #328 Skip Intro

Doesn’t McDonald’s CEO work at McDonalds as a career? Do these Twitter morons ever think at all?

The McD CEO did not work up the ladder from burger flipper. He came in as a CEO through the CEO club.

332 Skip Intro  May 15, 2015 10:20:06am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think the GOP has an iDead app in Apples store.

333 Timothy Watson  May 15, 2015 10:23:06am

re: #330 De Kolta Chair

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Virginia Hey, who also played Zhaan on Farscape.

334 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 10:28:05am

Wingnuttia is raging about Stephanopolousghazigate

335 William Lewis  May 15, 2015 10:29:33am

re: #298 Dr. Matt

Texas Open Carry Leader Terrorist: ‘Founding Fathers Would Be Shooting Back’

Someone should remind him that Washington lead troops in the field against the Whiskey Rebellion as President.

336 Snarknado!  May 15, 2015 10:31:36am

re: #280 Feline Fearless Leader

Avatar opinion question for the Lizards. Stay with “Eye of Feline” peering through the oval, or go back to previous picture of all of Chat Noir?

I didn’t see this earlier, but I also like both. Why don’t you switch back and forth occasionally? We’re strong people, we can take it.

337 Snarknado!  May 15, 2015 10:32:52am

re: #329 Kragar

Sounds like the second half of Birth of a Nation.

338 b.d.  May 15, 2015 10:33:11am

re: #326 Dr. Matt

NOT from The Onion:

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Read the rest here: spectator.org

Head Assplodes

339 Timothy Watson  May 15, 2015 10:34:24am

re: #338 b.d.

Head Assplodes

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All they need is UpChuck and they would have a great cast for the next Three Stooges short.

340 Dr. Matt  May 15, 2015 10:34:57am

re: #338 b.d.

The spectator piece states that Miller is not a conservative and in the very next line:

She [Miller] clearly believes a double standard has developed in journalism. “Take the Clinton Cash book by Peter Schweitzer,” she says. “If a Republican president had done the same things, can you imagine the outrage, the endless invective that would have been hurled?”
Read more at spectator.org

Fucking laughable.

341 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 10:35:33am
342 b.d.  May 15, 2015 10:37:24am

re: #340 Dr. Matt

The spectator piece states that Miller is not a conservative and in the very next line:

THOSE DEMS GET A FREE PASS ON EVERYTHING!

OBAMA WAS BORN IN KENYA AND CAN’T BE PRESIDENT BUT AN CANADIAN BORN CRUZ WOULD BE OK

343 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 10:38:12am

Democrats can’t make one misstep before they’re absolutely ravaged— and not just by right wingers like Schweizer. What you might think is an insignificant omission becomes the end of the world while the right wing can do no wrong whatsoever. GS should have known better.

thedailybeast.com

I don’t watch Stephanopoulous, but these ghouls won’t be finished with him until his career at ABC is toast and Clinton smeared so badly she won’t survive into a primary. And ABC knew who he was before they even hired him.

Maybe a better idea is for media outlets not to hire anyone involved in politics? Faux News, take notice.

Schweizer being defended as Eleanor Clift piles on, for chrissakes: thedailybeast.com

344 Kragar  May 15, 2015 10:39:30am

re: #341 lawhawk

I expect full retractions from the people making such claims if it turns out Bostian was hit with something before the crash.
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345 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 10:40:20am

re: #338 b.d.

Head Assplodes

OFFS

346 Mike Lamb  May 15, 2015 10:40:49am

re: #316 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Unless you consider they misspelled LIBERTARIANISM

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Well, let’s see…The “TEA” in TEA Party is for “Taxed Enough Already”. We have lawsuit after lawsuit trying to get an exemption from offering contraception in a health insurance policies. We have a concerted effort to restrict access to affordable birth control. We have demands for a religious exemption for bigotry. We have a concerted effort to prevent same sex marriage.

Now tell me, who is whining? Who is “despotic”?

347 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 10:41:53am

re: #340 Dr. Matt

“Take the Clinton Cash book by Peter Schweitzer,” she says. “If a Republican president had done the same things, can you imagine the outrage

Clinton is a former president. He can speak and make money and raise money for causes.

348 Mike Lamb  May 15, 2015 10:43:36am

re: #338 b.d.

Head Assplodes

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Given that this confab between Miller and O’Keefe is an actual thing where people aren’t pointing and laughing, I’d say the state of journalism is pretty fucking wretched.

349 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 10:44:37am

re: #347 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I want to remind the Rs of the $2M for one trip to Japan the Reagans made.

But IOKIYAR.

350 Mike Lamb  May 15, 2015 10:44:49am

re: #344 Kragar

I expect full retractions from the people making such claims if it turns out Bostian was hit with something before the crash.
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Straight engineers don’t get hit by projectiles.

351 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 10:44:50am

re: #329 Kragar

No plantation had a model group of slaves, for planters had to buy whatever slaves they could get. Some slaves were good workers and very obedient. Many took pride in what they did, and loved their cabins and the plantation as much as if they actually owned them. Others were lazy, disobedient, and sometimes vicious.”

Oh my….

352 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 10:46:28am

re: #326 Dr. Matt

I’ll admit that Miller was an actual journalist. But O’Keefe?

353 Dr. Matt  May 15, 2015 10:47:27am

re: #344 Kragar

2 Trains Hit by Projectiles Minutes Before Amtrak Derailment t.co
— Jeff Berard (@jaberard) May 15, 2015

A projectile hit a SEPTA train minutes before an Amtrak train derailed in Philadelphia Tuesday night, SEPTA spokeswoman Jerri Williams confirmed. Williams said investigators do not believe the SEPTA incident is related in any way to the derailment.

The projectile hit and busted the engineer’s window on a northbound SEPTA train that was headed to Trenton on tracks that run along the Amtrak rails, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer. About 80 passengers were put on buses to continue their trip.

Less than five minutes later and approximately four miles away Amtrak train 188 shuddered and went off the tracks at the Frankford Junction in Northeast Philadelphia, killing at least 7 people and injuring more than 200.

Wow. If foul play is not involved, that is one amazing coincidence.

354 b.d.  May 15, 2015 10:47:40am

re: #339 Timothy Watson

All they need is UpChuck and they would have a great cast for the next Three Stooges short.

We really need a panel discussion about the state of today’s media with Miller, O’Keefe, Chuck Johnson, Sharyl Attkisson, Lara Logan and Dim Jim to be hosted by Donald Trump.

355 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 10:48:54am

re: #349 Justanotherhuman

I want to remind the Rs of the $2M for one trip to Japan the Reagans made.

But IOKIYAR.

That would be $3,897,294.61 in 2015 dollars.

356 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 10:49:26am

re: #344 Kragar

It’ll be interesting to see what they find, particularly since the locomotive (the lead vehicle in the trainset) was essentially intact and upright. Found this photo and it looks like the windshields are intact though can’t be sure about the other windows (since they were either rolled down, or not visible in this view).

357 Skip Intro  May 15, 2015 10:49:36am

I know this isn’t all of them, and Sarah should have been replaced with Carly.

358 b.d.  May 15, 2015 10:50:32am

re: #349 Justanotherhuman

I want to remind the Rs of the $2M for one trip to Japan the Reagans made.

But IOKIYAR.

OBAMA’S TRIP TO INDIA COST $15,000,000 PER SECOND!

359 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 10:50:38am

re: #326 Dr. Matt

“Especially when you consider what both James and Judith have been through in the course of their work…”

OMFG.

What. Both. Have. Been. Through.

360 Joe Bacon  May 15, 2015 10:51:22am

re: #326 Dr. Matt

NOT from The Onion:

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Read the rest here: spectator.org

Whiskey.
Tango.
Foxtrot…

361 Dr. Matt  May 15, 2015 10:51:59am

re: #356 lawhawk

It’ll be interesting to see what they find, particularly since the locomotive (the lead vehicle in the trainset) was essentially intact and upright. Found this photo and it looks like the windshields are intact though can’t be sure about the other windows (since they were either rolled down, or not visible in this view).

Zoom in and look to the far side of the front window….it looks shattered/spidered. Not entirely sure though because the social media logos are in the way.

362 Dr. Matt  May 15, 2015 10:53:51am

re: #356 lawhawk

Actually, the front window is shattered. But, we don’t know if that happened before the crash or because of the crash.

363 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 10:53:54am

re: #316 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Unless you consider they misspelled LIBERTARIANISM

Another hard working patriot too busy working hard to spend time on Twitter.

/

364 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 10:54:07am

Dumber than a bag of hammers:

Cheaper to buy plane tickets than to provide the appropriate amount of funding for Amtrak? Seriously? And ignore that government subsidizes road and air infrastructure too? You know, to keep planes from crashing into each other, to land/take off from airports (that have to be maintained and upgraded, etc.) and roads that have to be maintained.

The GOP would rather run all of it into the ground and defer paying on the whole kit and caboodle (if ever).

365 b.d.  May 15, 2015 10:54:27am

re: #340 Dr. Matt

The spectator piece states that Miller is not a conservative and in the very next line:

Fucking laughable.

Don’t dare call Miller a conservative!!!!

366 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 10:55:05am

re: #365 b.d.

Don’t dare call Miller a conservative!!!!

hey we’re just asking questions….

367 Charles Johnson  May 15, 2015 10:56:19am

re: #361 Dr. Matt

Zoom in and look to the far side of the front window….it looks shattered/spidered. Not entirely sure though because the social media logos are in the way.

Yeah, there’s definitely damage to the window.

368 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 15, 2015 10:56:20am
369 Kragar  May 15, 2015 10:56:36am
370 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 10:56:37am

re: #365 b.d.

Is Obama really helping america’s allies fight ISIS?

Well, he’s had American bombing the shit out of ISIS for months.

“OK, yes, but besides all the bombing…What has Obama ever done to help our allies against ISIS???”

371 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 10:56:53am

re: #361 Dr. Matt

Yeah, just noticed that. Thanks.

372 wrenchwench  May 15, 2015 10:58:49am

re: #368 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Wasps build beautiful nests.

373 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 10:58:53am

re: #367 Charles Johnson

And if there’s a small window on the right side as on the left (as shown) with a door, there could be damage there, also, if rocks or other projectiles were being thrown from that side of the tracks.

374 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 10:59:03am

re: #365 b.d.

Don’t dare call Miller a conservative!!!!

Obama responds to ISIS with sustained and targeted bombing attacks

How come its just Americans risking their lives overseas for Obama’s war??!??!?!?

Obama encourages allied nations to take over some of the military response to ISIS

Is Obama really helping our Allies fight the war against ISIS, which Obama created and has done nothing to stop???

375 b.d.  May 15, 2015 10:59:40am

re: #372 wrenchwench

Wasps build beautiful nests.

If it weren’t for wasps, the people who make wasp killer spray for a living would be out of a job.

//

376 RadicalModerate  May 15, 2015 11:00:13am

re: #268 darthstar

I find it refreshing that Jeb is so stupid that Rick Perry feels safe entering the race.

I think that he figures that he’s the sanest Texan entering the race.

377 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 11:00:17am
378 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 11:00:21am

re: #367 Charles Johnson

For comparison, the same locomotive as it left Siemens.

Image: File:Amtrak_ACS-64_601.jpg

379 Kragar  May 15, 2015 11:00:33am
380 A Cranky One  May 15, 2015 11:00:37am

Hey Charles:

You got linked from C&L for the article on the train wreck and the wreck that’s Upchuck.

Crooks and Liars

381 steve_davis  May 15, 2015 11:01:27am

“That’s not to say the world is safer with Saddam gone….” Boy, I hope for his sake that’s a transcript error.

382 Varek Raith  May 15, 2015 11:01:41am

re: #344 Kragar

I expect full retractions from the people making such claims if it turns out Bostian was hit with something before the crash.
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That is most curious…
They say they aren’t connected, but…
Hmmm…..

383 Kragar  May 15, 2015 11:02:05am
384 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 15, 2015 11:05:03am

re: #370 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Well, he’s had American bombing the shit out of ISIS for months.

“OK, yes, but besides all the bombing…What has Obama ever done to help our allies against ISIS???”

And, Judith, you realize that the “ally” who’s doing most of the fighting on the ground is…Iran. Right?

385 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 11:05:51am

Sorry, but this is a much clearer photo showing damage to the front windshield. Definitely something struck it (not sure from interior or exterior, though it could have been the engineer hitting it, since that’s the side, position they’d be driving from.

gettyimages.com

386 b.d.  May 15, 2015 11:07:00am

re: #384 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And, Judith, you realize that the “ally” who’s doing most of the fighting on the ground is…Iran. Right?

AMERICA SHOULD ARM IRAN TO FIGHT ISIS, THEN BOMB THEM

387 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 15, 2015 11:07:11am

re: #384 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And, Judith, you realize that the “ally” who’s doing most of the fighting on the ground is…Iran. Right?

And Iran is pretty buddy-buddy with our new ally Iraq.

International Affairs is hard.

388 b.d.  May 15, 2015 11:08:23am

re: #387 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And Iran is pretty buddy-buddy with our new ally Iraq.

International Affairs is hard.

We should ask Jeb what he thinks we should do.

//

389 Kragar  May 15, 2015 11:08:34am
390 Targetpractice  May 15, 2015 11:10:00am

re: #389 Kragar

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Really, what Gowdy is doing is blaming the State Department for not giving him the smoking gun he wants. The guy likes to pride himself as a prosecutor, yet he seems to think that the job of a prosecutor is to demand the defense do his work for him.

391 Dr. Matt  May 15, 2015 11:10:19am

Here’s a head-on shot:

From: nypost.com

392 Kragar  May 15, 2015 11:10:54am
393 lawhawk  May 15, 2015 11:11:17am

re: #392 Kragar

394 prairiefire  May 15, 2015 11:11:30am

re: #313 Targetpractice

How was Hardy as Max?

You should see his Heathcliff.

395 b.d.  May 15, 2015 11:11:50am

8 people die in a train wreck and it is front paged news for a week but if it were a mass shooting where only 8 people got killed the national media would have moved on days ago and probably would have relied on local reporters to be their surrogates.

396 Dr. Matt  May 15, 2015 11:16:05am

re: #395 b.d.

8 people die in a train wreck and it is front paged news for a week but if it were a mass shooting where only 8 people got killed the national media would have moved on days ago and probably would have relied on local reporters to be their surrogates.

It’s no longer featured on Drudge or foxnews.com since they cannot blame Obama, Hillary, or libruls.

397 Lord Of The Pies  May 15, 2015 11:17:10am

re: #395 b.d.

8 people die in a train wreck and it is front paged news for a week but if it were a mass shooting where only 8 people got killed the national media would have moved on days ago and probably would have relied on local reporters to be their surrogates.

Rich white people died.

398 allegro  May 15, 2015 11:19:28am

Hope this isn’t inappropriate but I keep being reminded of this…

A number of years ago I was at a banquet thing chatting with a guy at the table. Talk came to professions and he said he was an engineer.

Me: Cool. Em-Ee? Chem-Ee? Ee-Ee?
Him: Choo-choo.

399 No Country For Old Haters  May 15, 2015 11:30:54am

re: #377 Lord Of The Pies

400 Eventual Carrion  May 15, 2015 11:45:22am

re: #388 b.d.

We should ask Jeb what he thinks we should do.

//

He would do it again.

401 BeenHereAwhile  May 15, 2015 11:46:47am

re: #190 Justanotherhuman

Young “Blues Boy” King, 1956. Yeah, I used to boogie to this. Rhythm and Blues was just about all I listened to as a teen; my musical tastes were definitely not “white bread” at all. I can’t even repeat what my dad said when I listened to the radio, but it was racist as hell when he caught me. Only Black stations played the music I loved back then.

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Living in central Florida in the late 1950’s and 1960’s we listened to “John R” out of 50,000 Watt WLAC in Nashville, TN.

As you may know, John R - like Hoss Allen - were white men who sounded black, and broadcast over the clear channel Life and Casualty Insurance owned radio station.

Here’s John R ending an interview with Percy Sledge and then selling baby chicks.

…

Chips Moman named his publishing company, “Baby Chicks” because of this commercial.

John R was a nice guy.

402 Justanotherhuman  May 15, 2015 12:09:41pm

re: #401 BeenHereAwhile

I forget the name of the station I listened to in Miami, but remember very well WGIV in Charlotte where I spent some of my teens. Genial Gene, Chattie Hattie and Rockin’ Ray were all Black personalities although the station was owned by a white man. This is the way it was then. en.wikipedia.org


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