Stupidest Man on the Internet Starts the Week With a Huge Lie About Benghazi

Just a flat out lie from start to finish
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DERPOn this fine Monday morning, Jim Hoft, fabled Dumbest Man on the Internet (also known as the Stupidest Man on the Internet, or SMOTI), decided it was time to circulate a huge, blatant lie about Benghazi, with a screaming headline about a BREAKING REPORT SMOKING GUN! at Fox News that is completely false:

BREAKING REPORT=> SMOKING GUN! US Was Running Weapons Thru Benghazi to Syria | the Gateway Pundit

It’s a flat out lie, folks. The Fox News report is one of their usual nothing-burgers, trying to pump up yet another Benghazi story that contains nothing new or interesting, but it absolutely does not make the claim that the US was running weapons to Syria. Here’s how Dim Jim describes it in his typical semi-literate style:

FOX News confirmed today that the US ran guns from Benghazi to Syria before the attack on the US consulate on September 11, 2012.

The US Ambassador to Libya and three others were killed in the terrorist attack.

The Obama administration was running weapons to Syria.

FOX News reported Monday that the US was sending guns to Banias and Borj Islam, Syria before the Benghazi terrorist attack.

US Intelligence agencies were fully aware that weapons were moving from the terrorist stronghold in Libya to Syria before the attack that killed four Americans…
September 16, 2012 DIA Memo copied to the National Security Council, CIA, and others concluded the Benghazi terrorist attack was planned at least ten or more days in advance…

The memo also tied the attack to 9-11… No discussion of a demonstration or anti-Mohammad video.

US officials were aware that weapons were being shipped to Syria by the Port of Benghazi.

The US was in fact running guns from Benghazi to Syria when the annex and consulate were attacked.

Senator Rand Paul questioned Hillary Clinton about this gun running program back in January 2013 during her testimony on the Benghazi terrorist attack.

Hillary Clinton said she did not know about the program while testifying under oath.

[…]

Rand Paul accused the Obama administration in January 2013 of running guns to Syrian rebels.
Rand Paul was right.

No, Jim, Rand Paul was not right, and Hillary Clinton said she didn’t know about “the program” because there was no “program.”

Hoft even quoted the line that debunks his dishonest post:

US officials were aware that weapons were being shipped to Syria by the Port of Benghazi.

That’s what the Fox report says; that US officials were aware that weapons were being shipped from Libya to Syria. It does not say the US was shipping those weapons — and in fact, the report actually quotes a CIA official who specifically says the US was NOT involved in shipping those weapons.

So Fox News didn’t “confirm” this at all; Jim Hoft deliberately misrepresented this report. Please spread the word and retweet this post, to push back against yet another attempted lie by this incredibly dishonest right wing hack.

Here’s the video clip from Fox, so you can see for yourself:

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261 comments
1 b_sharp  May 18, 2015 10:25:27am

Reading/listening for comprehension is not one of his strong points.

2 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 10:26:05am

re: #1 b_sharp

Pretty sure this is a deliberate lie, though.

3 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2015 10:31:47am

bwahahahaaaa:

Christian evangelist Franklin Graham invited his Facebook followers to pray for Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on Saturday, saying they should pray that her eyes “would be opened to the truth of Scripture” so that she would vote against marriage equality, Inquisitr reports.

But Ginsburg is Jewish and not likely a follower of his version of scripture.

“Today, let’s focus our prayers on Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who has served on the Court for over two decades,” Graham wrote on his Facebook page on Saturday. “Those who support same-sex marriage consider her an ally in their fight to toss God’s Holy Word aside.”

“As the Supreme Court continues to deliberate over the constitutionality of same-sex marriage,” he continued, “let’s pray that Justice Ginsburg’s eyes would be opened to the truth of Scripture and that she would not be deceived by the arguments of those who seek to impose their ‘new morality’ on our nation.”

4 Dr. Matt  May 18, 2015 10:32:39am
5 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 10:34:43am

Oh he’s sure to win now==>

6 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 10:35:35am
September 16, 2012 DIA Memo copied to the National Security Council, CIA, and others concluded the Benghazi terrorist attack was planned at least ten or more days in advance…

The memo also tied the attack to 9-11… No discussion of a demonstration or anti-Mohammad video.

IMPEACH!!!!!1

/

7 Eventual Carrion  May 18, 2015 10:35:54am

Ask Ollie North about the weapons shipments. He always seems to be in the middle of shit like that.

8 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 10:36:58am

re: #5 Lord Of The Pies

Oh he’s sure to win now==>

Did Cruz get the invaluable Pam Geller endorsement for president? With Geller and CCJ’s backing, he can’t lose.

//

9 Kid A  May 18, 2015 10:37:56am
10 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 10:38:04am

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

that she would not be deceived by the arguments of those who seek to impose their ‘new morality’ on our nation.”

I’m glad Franklin and his associates don’t want to impose their morality on our nation.

/

11 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 10:40:02am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Pretty sure this is a deliberate lie, though.

I’m not betting against you on that… I work too hard for my money to just give it away.

I’m convinced that our Short Attention Span Outrage Merchants take advantage of the fact that nobody bothers to actually read the article / view the piece they are extracting their umbrage from, much less actually go and try to find a couple of other pieces on the topic.

It’s all about being shriller, louder and more outrageous to prove that you’re the “real deal”.

Spit.

RBS

12 Dr. Matt  May 18, 2015 10:40:07am

re: #7 Eventual Carrion

Ask Ollie North about the weapons shipments. He always seems to be in the middle of shit like that.

But Ronny Reagan was the sort of guy you wanted to have a beer with…..

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13 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 10:40:36am
US Intelligence agencies were fully aware that weapons were moving from the terrorist stronghold in Libya to Syria before the attack that killed four Americans…

So the US was sending arms from Libya to Syria, which resulted in the attack in Libya? Why not just keep the arms in Libya if we wanted to attack our own consulate?

Does DimJim even think these memes through before posting them?

14 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 10:40:53am

re: #10 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I’m glad Franklin and his associates don’t want to impose their morality on our nation.

/

from what I’ve read, I could sort of roll with Franklin’s morality. :)

RBS

15 Dr. Matt  May 18, 2015 10:41:56am
16 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 10:43:17am
17 Dr. Matt  May 18, 2015 10:44:35am

Cue the fake right-wing outrage in 5….4…..

edit: Half a million+ followers in under 2 hours. Impressive.

18 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 10:46:12am

re: #17 Dr. Matt

Cue the fake right-wing outrage in 5….4…..

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19 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 10:47:19am
20 Dr. Matt  May 18, 2015 10:47:20am

re: #18 Lord Of The Pies

Shapiro was [repeatedly] dropped on his head as a child…..

21 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 10:47:56am

re: #18 Lord Of The Pies

I thought POTUS was already on Twitter. But I followed his new account anyway.

22 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 10:48:57am

re: #18 Lord Of The Pies

So today’s not the day that Ben Shapiro finds gainful employment?

23 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 10:49:39am

re: #21 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I thought POTUS was already on Twitter. But I followed his new account anyway.

There was the @BarackObama account but apparently that was curated by some intern and POTUS rarely got to use it.

I don’t know if @POTUS will also be curated by some intern or if POTUS actually owns it.

24 Dr. Matt  May 18, 2015 10:50:25am

re: #22 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So today’s not the day that Ben Shapiro finds gainful employment?

Recall, Shapiro is the douchebag that was raging about the POTUS on twitter the day his daughter was born. Talk about a mental disorder…..

25 Targetpractice  May 18, 2015 10:50:31am

re: #19 Lord Of The Pies

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Abbott’s probably keeping the NG on standby for when the Feds begin their coup.

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26 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 10:51:58am

re: #23 Lord Of The Pies

There was the @BarackObama account but apparently that was curated by some intern and POTUS rarely got to use it.

I don’t know if @POTUS will also be curated by some intern or if POTUS actually owns it.

Damn interns…..

27 Dr. Matt  May 18, 2015 10:52:51am

re: #23 Lord Of The Pies

There was the @BarackObama account but apparently that was curated by some intern and POTUS rarely got to use it.

I don’t know if @POTUS will also be curated by some intern or if POTUS actually owns it.

I was thinking that the POTUS account will likely be handed from POTUS to POTUS just like the official Pope account (@Pontifex) has been handled by the last two Pope dudes.

28 EPR-radar  May 18, 2015 10:53:12am

Dim Jim is just doing his job. For the GOP propaganda effort, it is important to have RWNJ media whose lies are more blatant than those of Fox News. That helps Fox News in its pretense of being ‘fair and balanced’.

29 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 10:53:41am

And the TCOT butthurt over the POTUS Twitter account proceeds:

30 lawhawk  May 18, 2015 10:53:54am
31 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 10:56:52am

re: #29 Lord Of The Pies

And the TCOT butthurt over the POTUS Twitter account proceeds:

What is this Troubled Heart troubled about?

32 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 10:58:51am
33 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 10:59:16am

re: #32 Justanotherhuman

OUTRAGE!!!!!!!11

34 jaunte  May 18, 2015 11:00:48am

re: #32 Justanotherhuman

We should be seeing some anger very soon about the President sitting on the desk.

35 Dave In Austin  May 18, 2015 11:01:05am

re: #32 Justanotherhuman

He’s sitting on the President Desk!!!
IMPEACH!!!!!11!!!!1
//

36 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 11:01:19am

re: #32 Justanotherhuman

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Sitting on the furniture like a common thug!!!! /////////

RBS

37 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 11:02:14am

re: #34 jaunte

We should be seeing some anger very soon about the President sitting on the desk.

re: #35 Dave In Austin

He’s sitting on the President Desk!!!
IMPEACH!!!!!11!!!!1
//

re: #36 RealityBasedSteve

Sitting on the furniture like a common thug!!!! /////////

RBS

Great minds think alike!!!

38 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2015 11:04:03am

re: #23 Lord Of The Pies

There was the @BarackObama account but apparently that was curated by some intern and POTUS rarely got to use it.

.

@BarackObama is actually an OFA account. Any tweets from that account that are from POTUS are signed “-bo”.

39 Dave In Austin  May 18, 2015 11:04:31am

re: #37 RealityBasedSteve
His feet are on the Bush President Rug!!!!!!!111!!!1

IMPEACH!!!!1!
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40 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 11:05:24am
41 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 11:08:14am
42 Dr Lizardo  May 18, 2015 11:10:23am

re: #41 Lord Of The Pies

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Yeah, but you see, IOKWWPDI (It’s OK When White People Do It)

*headdesk*

43 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 11:10:34am

Is Dana complaining there were not enough GOOD GUYS WITH GUNZ!!!!!! at Waco?

44 Lidane  May 18, 2015 11:12:31am

Because this is surely an improvement:

45 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 11:12:34am

I grow more and more disenchanted with these “giants” of the internet. How are individuals supposed to protect themselves in this kind of scenario? Her performance in another movie, never released, was spliced into this controversial, anti-Muslim movie and speech grafted onto it.

Google, YouTube win heated legal fight over anti-Muslim video

mercurynews.com

“Weighing into a case fraught with controversy, a federal appeals court on Monday rejected a Hollywood actress’s bid to force Google-owned YouTube to take down an anti-Muslim video that sparked worldwide protests, finding that such an order tramples on free speech rights.

“Reversing a previous ruling, a special 11-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals rejected the arguments raised by Cindy Lee Garcia, who pressed her legal fight as a result of death threats she received after she was unwittingly spliced into a 2012 film clip that cast her as disparaging the prophet Mohammed in the “Innocence of Muslims” video. The court backed Google and other Internet companies, with only Judge Alex Kozinski dissenting.

(snip)

“The showdown stems from Garcia’s minor role in a film originally called “Desert Warrior,” for which she was paid $500. The movie never materialized, but Garcia later discovered her scene had instead been used in the anti-Muslim video “Innocence of Muslims,” produced by Mark Basseley Youssef. When released, it sparked protests in the Muslim world and was at one point cited in the debate over the fatal attacks on the U.S. embassy in Benghazi, Libya.

“As it turned out, Garcia’s voice was dubbed over with an insult to Mohammed. Her life has not been the same since: She has been inundated with death threats, such as “cindy lee I want to kill you” and “Dear the end is near,” forcing her to live underground, according to court papers.” More

46 lawhawk  May 18, 2015 11:12:44am
47 jaunte  May 18, 2015 11:14:08am

re: #43 Lord Of The Pies

Because criminals don’t follow laws

Why have any laws, the criminals will just ignore ‘em.

48 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 11:15:15am

re: #43 Lord Of The Pies

Is Dana complaining there were not enough GOOD GUYS WITH GUNZ!!!!!! at Waco?

So the gangs would never have started shooting if Texas had open-carry? Dana is making even less sense than usual.

49 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 11:15:26am

re: #47 jaunte

Why have any laws, the criminals will just ignore ‘em.

But women & gays are law-abiding, so let’s pass more laws restricting them!

50 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 11:16:12am

re: #44 Lidane

Because this is surely an improvement:

There was a The Campaign Spot at NRO?

Who knew? //

51 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 11:16:30am

re: #41 Lord Of The Pies

Heh. It’s OK to play practice your golf swing, eh?

Ronald Reagan in the Oval Office

52 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 11:18:27am

re: #51 Justanotherhuman

Heh. It’s OK to play practice your golf swing, eh?

Ronald Reagan in the Oval Office

Wait but RONNIE NEVER PLAYED GOLF BECAUSE HIS PRESIDENTIN’ JERB WAS MOAR IMPORTANTS!!!!!!

53 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 11:18:44am

re: #46 lawhawk

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Becauses they’re both assholes?

54 rhuarc  May 18, 2015 11:19:04am

re: #43 Lord Of The Pies

So she knows that every person detained by the police in Waco were criminals before the incident? That’s a lot of research she did on this issues to verify her info before making such a statement.

55 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2015 11:19:09am

re: #44 Lidane

Because this is surely an improvement:

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“so exicted”?

:D

56 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2015 11:19:51am

New in pages, how to get a head in the burgeoning crime and punishment industry. This is from the Guardian, with my own suggestions for a domestic adaptation added.
Saudi Arabia Advertises for Eight New Executioners as Beheading Rate Soars

57 Targetpractice  May 18, 2015 11:20:19am

re: #43 Lord Of The Pies

Is Dana complaining there were not enough GOOD GUYS WITH GUNZ!!!!!! at Waco?

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All those people there and not a single “good man with a gun” to put it all to an end? No traffic officer with his trusty revolver? No vice principal ran out to his car to grab his pistol?

58 Dave In Austin  May 18, 2015 11:20:24am

re: #43 Lord Of The Pies

Is Dana complaining there were not enough GOOD GUYS WITH GUNZ!!!!!! at Waco?

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Where’s the Detriot City Pants Pooper??
Ted Nugent live somewhere in or near Waco. Not a peep out of him. Why you ask??????????

59 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 11:20:58am

HAHAHA

60 Targetpractice  May 18, 2015 11:21:37am

re: #56 Shiplord Kirel

New in pages, how to get a head in the burgeoning crime and punishment industry. This is from the Guardian, with my own suggestions for a domestic adaptation added.
Saudi Arabia Advertises for Eight New Executioners as Beheading Rate Soars

Wow, if I work hard, I can be the head of the Saudi executioners in no time.

61 Dave In Austin  May 18, 2015 11:22:16am

re: #59 Lord Of The Pies

IMPEACH!!!!1’qnnnhw7111!!!!

62 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 11:23:52am

re: #57 Targetpractice

You mean Dana doesn’t have a TV that showed an officer talking about off-duty cops at that shopping mall who joined on-duty cops to help out while all that was going on?

63 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 11:24:03am

re: #51 Justanotherhuman

Heh. It’s OK to play practice your golf swing, eh?

Ronald Reagan in the Oval Office

Ah, swoon! Reagan was so athletic, played a Real American game, golf. How come we can’t have a real president like that now?

64 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 11:25:11am

re: #63 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Ah, swoon! Reagan was so athletic, played a Real American game, golf. How come we can’t have a real president like that now?

Pres Obama plays golf in Hawaii.

Way too foreign to count, doncha know.

65 Jenner7  May 18, 2015 11:25:23am

re: #29 Lord Of The Pies

Oh yes, this was all planned for his twitter picture.

So dumb.

66 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 11:26:14am

re: #63 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Ah, swoon! Reagan was so athletic, played a Real American game, golf. How come we can’t have a real president like that now?

HURR HURR!!!!! RONNIE WAS TEH MOAST PRESIDENTIN’ PRESIDENT IN FOREVER!!!!!!!

67 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 11:27:11am

Meanwhile Obama could golf 24/7 from now until the end of his term and he still wouldn’t get in as many rounds as Ike.

68 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2015 11:27:50am

Worst Socialist President Ever is at it again:

Wall Street’s Week Ahead: Dow Jones Industrial Average Hits Record High Ahead Of Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT) Q1 Earnings

Must be all the tax dollars Wal-Mart is making from Jade Helm 15

ibtimes.com

69 No Country For Old Haters  May 18, 2015 11:28:10am

re: #46 lawhawk

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Between the haircut and the expression on his face, I suspect he’s not all there. Probably a good mate for a Palin.

70 Mattand  May 18, 2015 11:28:26am

One way to look at Puttghazi: Republcians and conservatives are so desperate to find anything even remotely close to an Obama scandal, this is literally all they have.

71 ObserverArt  May 18, 2015 11:29:23am
The FOX News Propaganda Machine - Creating Falsehoods for the G.O.P. since 1996
72 Iwouldprefernotto  May 18, 2015 11:29:45am

re: #17 Dr. Matt

Cue the fake right-wing outrage in 5….4…..

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edit: Half a million+ followers in under 2 hours. Impressive.

Half a million plus one.

73 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 11:30:50am

re: #69 No Country For Old Haters

Evidently, he has an ex-wife he didn’t tell her about, also.

But WTF, with her history.

74 lawhawk  May 18, 2015 11:31:11am

re: #67 Lord Of The Pies

Ike loved golf so much that his farm in Gettysburg had a putting green (complete with 5 star flag) installed right behind his home there. With an amazing view of Gettysburg and the battlefield to boot.

75 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 11:31:29am

Jeff Beck played The Ryman Auditorium last night and I missed it. A friend did see it, and here’s the encore, The Thrill is Gone….

…

76 Mattand  May 18, 2015 11:31:56am

re: #72 Iwouldprefernotto

Half a million plus one.

Can you imagine the poor sap who has to maintain the block button @POTUS? His or her finger will be worn to a nub within an hour.

77 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 11:34:22am

*FACE PALM*

78 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 18, 2015 11:35:40am

re: #17 Dr. Matt

Cue the fake right-wing outrage in 5….4…..

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edit: Half a million+ followers in under 2 hours. Impressive.

Another devious plot by Obama. His Tweets will all have subliminal messages that sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids.

79 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 11:35:44am

re: #77 Lord Of The Pies

*FACE PALM*

Another hard-working Patriot American working too hard to have a troubled heart about Obama and Twitter.

/

80 Iwouldprefernotto  May 18, 2015 11:37:55am

re: #77 Lord Of The Pies

*FACE PALM*

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Conservatives love to plan ahead, just look at thier plans for the rebuilding of Iraq after shock and awe.

81 EPR-radar  May 18, 2015 11:38:45am

re: #66 Lord Of The Pies

‘truthfromtheright’. Very funny. When was the last time that happened?

Never seems to be a pretty good answer. In long ago days, the GOP was occasionally on the correct side of an issue, but the credit for that goes to GOP liberals and moderates who are now extinct in the GOP.

82 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 18, 2015 11:38:45am

re: #80 Iwouldprefernotto

Conservatives love to plan ahead, just look at thier plans for the rebuilding of Iraq after shock and awe.

Or their plans to finance state government after they lower taxes.

83 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 11:39:06am
84 jaunte  May 18, 2015 11:42:56am

re: #77 Lord Of The Pies

*FACE PALM*

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One more butthurt southerner, still bitching about a black man in the White House.

85 ObserverArt  May 18, 2015 11:44:14am

re: #75 RealityBasedSteve

Jeff Beck played The Ryman Auditorium last night and I missed it. A friend did see it, and here’s the encore, The Thrill is Gone….

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Video

I couldn’t quite place the name Jimmy Hall. Did a Google and found he was the front man for Wet Willie. Now there is a band I forgot all about. He did a nice job with the vocals in tribute to B.B.

Their big hit…

…

86 ObserverArt  May 18, 2015 11:46:37am

re: #83 Justanotherhuman

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Jade Helm!!!

That wern’t no damn earfquake…it was tha’ damm Obammy!

87 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 11:46:43am

re: #77 Lord Of The Pies

*FACE PALM*
Jenny Hassell @JHassTN
@POTUS What Twitter handle you gonna use after 2016? Just like a Lib to not think ahead. Not very “forward”-thinking, eh? lol dipshit #tcot
1:33 PM - 18 May 2015
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Obama trips his hand that he’s not going to step down when his term expires!!!! Martial law is Coming!!!! Get Herloom Vegetables!!!!!

88 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2015 11:48:03am

re: #83 Justanotherhuman

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I felt it, a mild but noticeable vibration that set up ripples in my coffee cup.

89 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 11:48:44am

re: #88 Shiplord Kirel

And you are how many miles from Farmers Branch? : )

90 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 11:49:04am

re: #77 Lord Of The Pies

*FACE PALM*

I don’t know. Maybe he’ll change his handle to something else after 2016.

Twitter is really hard.

91 lawhawk  May 18, 2015 11:49:13am

re: #84 jaunte

One more butthurt southerner, still bitching about a black man in the White House.

Pro-tip: If you’re hoping to make the White House a whiter place, you’re a racist.

92 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 11:49:28am

US believes Abu Sayyaf, Islamic State leader killed in Syria raid, was involved in handling foreign hostages including slain aid worker Kayla Mueller - @Reuters
end of alert

93 Mattand  May 18, 2015 11:53:08am

re: #91 lawhawk

Pro-tip: If you’re hoping to make the White House a whiter place, you’re a racist.

BUT WHITE IZ IN TEH NAME, U STOOPID LIBRULS!!! WHOZ TEH RACIST NOW?????

94 Great White Snark  May 18, 2015 11:54:17am

re: #88 Shiplord Kirel

I felt it, a mild but noticeable vibration that set up ripples in my coffee cup.

‘Round here in Los Angeles that 3.whatever is what we call a “coffee stirrer”

95 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 11:55:16am

re: #88 Shiplord Kirel

I felt it, a mild but noticeable vibration that set up ripples in my coffee cup.

No, it’s really dinosaurs tramping around outside….

96 Feline Fearless Leader  May 18, 2015 11:55:53am

re: #94 Great White Snark

‘Round here in Los Angeles that 3.whatever is what we call a “coffee stirrer”

And that’s why the approaching T.Rexi will get you first.
:p

97 lawhawk  May 18, 2015 11:56:13am

re: #88 Shiplord Kirel

I felt it, a mild but noticeable vibration that set up ripples in my coffee cup.

re: #94 Great White Snark

‘Round here in Los Angeles that 3.whatever is what we call a “coffee stirrer”

I said shaken. Not stirred. /

98 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 11:59:15am

Some straight talk in Camden.

President Obama, in Camden, NJ: ‘We can’t ask the police to contain and control problems that the rest of us aren’t willing to face’
end of alert

99 ObserverArt  May 18, 2015 12:02:45pm

#3 in a continuing series of spam emails from Ricky. Showed up just a few minutes ago. Damn Ohio Republicans sold me out to an email list AFTER I had specifically told them I wanted no emails. But I admit, this is fun watching Ricky beg.

Damn, he is getting pathetically desperate.

Reminds me of a certain red-headed new journalist.

Ricky, Ricky, Ricky…damn man, you are trying too hard.

Edit: Right click and open in new tab, then you can enlarge it to read his begging.

100 b_sharp  May 18, 2015 12:04:21pm

I just watched Ed Sheeran on The Royal Variety Performance and it looks like he’s taking fashion advice from Donald Trump. At least Trump can say he has influence somewhere.

101 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 12:05:13pm

re: #99 ObserverArt

#3 in a continuing series of spam emails from Ricky. Showed up just a few minutes ago. Damn Ohio Republicans sold me out to an email list AFTER I had specifically told them I wanted no emails. But I admit, this is fun watching Ricky beg.

Damn, he is getting pathetically desperate.

Reminds me of a certain red-headed new journalist.

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If he’s nominated, he’ll pick his fetus-in-a-jar for his running mate.

102 jaunte  May 18, 2015 12:05:16pm

Fox, once again confused about Constitution.

103 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 12:05:31pm

re: #99 ObserverArt

#3 in a continuing series of spam emails from Ricky. Showed up just a few minutes ago. Damn Ohio Republicans sold me out to an email list AFTER I had specifically told them I wanted no emails. But I admit, this is fun watching Ricky beg.

Damn, he is getting pathetically desperate.

Reminds me of a certain red-headed new journalist.

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Edit: Right click and open in new tab, then you can enlarge it to read his begging.

Go home Ricky, you’re drunk.

RBS

104 ObserverArt  May 18, 2015 12:06:19pm

re: #94 Great White Snark

‘Round here in Los Angeles that 3.whatever is what we call a “coffee stirrer”

Don’t get too cocky there California boy!!!

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105 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 12:06:23pm

re: #99 ObserverArt

Almost forgot about Ricky. He can ride on the roof of the clown car.

106 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2015 12:06:35pm

re: #89 Justanotherhuman

And you are how many miles from Farmers Branch? : )

Right now, I’m in Fort Worth, about 10 miles from the epicenter.

107 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 12:06:51pm

re: #90 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I don’t know. Maybe he’ll change his handle to something else after 2016.

Twitter is really hard.

Yeah like @BarackObama or @POTUS44

108 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 12:07:43pm

More than 24 hours later, the Jade Helm governor releases a statement about the Waco massacre.

109 Eventual Carrion  May 18, 2015 12:07:58pm

re: #102 jaunte

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Fox, once again confused about Constitution.

Yeah, they should appeal his right to appealing to a higher court.

110 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 12:09:22pm

re: #102 jaunte

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Fox, once again confused about Constitution.

I’m sure they are applauding the Saudi system… heck they need 8 more executioners just to keep up.

111 jaunte  May 18, 2015 12:10:20pm

re: #108 teleskiguy

… We’re committed to providing any and all resources needed to support the Waco Police Department and the local community, as long as it doesn’t interfere with our monitoring the suspicious US military exercises possibly intended to usurp the State’s authority…

112 Targetpractice  May 18, 2015 12:10:20pm

re: #102 jaunte

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Fox, once again confused about Constitution.

Nothing to show the moral high ground this nation stands upon like asking aloud why we allow death row inmates to appeal their convictions.

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113 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 12:10:38pm

re: #109 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, they should appeal his right to appealing to a higher court.

Years ago, I was hard up and read one of my girlfriend’s True Crime books, about this Canadian woman who killed her abusive husband. She was acquitted, and the prosecution appealed! I’m going: “The prosecution did WHAT?” I get down on the US system a lot, but damn!

114 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 12:12:36pm

re: #113 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I should add, she was convicted the second time around. SMH.

115 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 12:16:35pm

re: #102 jaunte

Co-host Brian Kilmeade complained that the possibility of a lengthy process could mean “we’re not going to get to kill this guy, are we?”

Brian Kilmeade, age 13

116 b.d.  May 18, 2015 12:19:29pm

re: #108 teleskiguy

More than 24 hours later, the Jade Helm governor releases a statement about the Waco massacre.

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Pretty weak sauce from Abbott too boot:

“Texas will not stand for the type of lawlessness we witnessed in Waco yesterday. My office, along with law enforcement agencies at the local, state and federal levels, is committed to providing any and all resources needed to support the Waco Police Department and the local community. I want to express my heartfelt gratitude to the first responders who put themselves in harm’s way to protect innocent lives.”

117 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 12:21:18pm

re: #115 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Brian Kilmeade, age 13

Who’s “We”, Brian? You got jumper cables in your pants?

118 Targetpractice  May 18, 2015 12:22:32pm

re: #115 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Brian Kilmeade, age 13

The people who act shocked and outraged when a beheading video hits the waves, wondering aloud why we can’t just go ahead and execute this kid so we don’t have to wait for all them appeals to work their way through the system.

119 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 12:22:59pm

So who we got now? Let’s see:

1.Jeb! Bush (explor)
2.Bobbie Jindal (explor)
3.Ted Cruz
4.Mike Huckabee
5.Ben Carson
6.Carly Fiorina
7.Rand Paul
8.Lindsey Graham
9.Scott Walker (leaning)
10.Chris Christie (leaning)
11.Rick Santorum (leaning)
12.Marco Rubio
13.John Kasich (maybe)
14.Rick Perry (likely)

Am I leaving anyone out?

120 Iwouldprefernotto  May 18, 2015 12:24:12pm

re: #119 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So who we got now? Let’s see:

1.Jeb! Bush (explor)
2.Bobbie Jindal (explor)
3.Ted Cruz
4.Mike Huckabee
5.Ben Carson
6.Carly Fiorina
7.Rand Paul
8.Lindsey Graham
9.Scott Walker (leaning)
10.Chris Christie (leaning)
11.Rick Santorum (leaning)
12.Marco Rubio
13.John Kasich (maybe)
14.Rick Perry (likely)

Am I leaving anyone out?

Jesus (never get elected)

121 b.d.  May 18, 2015 12:24:42pm

re: #119 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So who we got now? Let’s see:

1.Jeb! Bush (explor)
2.Bobbie Jindal (explor)
3.Ted Cruz
4.Mike Huckabee
5.Ben Carson
6.Carly Fiorina
7.Rand Paul
8.Lindsey Graham
9.Scott Walker (leaning)
10.Chris Christie (leaning)
11.Rick Santorum (leaning)
12.Marco Rubio
13.John Kasich (maybe)
14.Rick Perry (likely)

Am I leaving anyone out?

TRUMP!

122 Dave In Austin  May 18, 2015 12:26:26pm

re: #119 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So who we got now? Let’s see:

1.Jeb! Bush (explor)
2.Bobbie Jindal (explor)
3.Ted Cruz
4.Mike Huckabee
5.Ben Carson
6.Carly Fiorina
7.Rand Paul
8.Lindsey Graham
9.Scott Walker (leaning)
10.Chris Christie (leaning)
11.Rick Santorum (leaning)
12.Marco Rubio
13.John Kasich (maybe)
14.Rick Perry (likely)

Am I leaving anyone out?

Pence

123 Dr Lizardo  May 18, 2015 12:27:17pm

re: #121 b.d.

TRUMP!

PALIN!!

124 Dave In Austin  May 18, 2015 12:27:41pm

And Palin…..
Cause you just never know..

125 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 18, 2015 12:28:20pm

re: #119 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

George Pataki (leaning)

126 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 12:29:56pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

George Pataki (leaning)

BWWWWAAAAAAAAABBABABAB

127 Dr Lizardo  May 18, 2015 12:30:26pm

Meawhile, this happened:

Bill O’Reilly’s ex-wife accused the Fox News anchor of physically assaulting her in front of their daughter.

A source said Maureen McPhilmy, who was recently awarded custody of the couple’s two children, testified during a New York family court hearing that O’Reilly attacked her at their Manhasset home, reported Gawker.

The source said a forensic examiner testified that O’Reilly’s 16-year-old daughter claimed she saw her father drag her mother down a staircase by the neck, unaware the girl was watching.

It’s not clear when the incident took place, but it apparently happened before the couple separated in 2010.

rawstory.com

128 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 12:30:31pm

re: #122 Dave In Austin

Haven’t heard his name mentioned lately. Anything new on him?

129 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2015 12:32:10pm

re: #116 b.d.

Pretty weak sauce from Abbott too boot:

Governor Abbott does not want to antagonize a significant portion of the base by being too harsh with armed white men, however misguided and over-enthusiastic they may be.

130 Dave In Austin  May 18, 2015 12:33:29pm

re: #128 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Keeping his head down since the Ghey Cake fiasco….

131 Dave In Austin  May 18, 2015 12:34:29pm

Since we are still relatively on this topic….

IMPEACH!!! 11!1!!

132 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 12:43:34pm

re: #116 b.d.

Pretty weak sauce from Abbott too boot:

Oh I don’t know, was that all he said?

It emphasizes Law Enforcement, “Law & Order”, without getting into too many specifics about the case, which he might not know enough about yet. Doesn’t fall into the trap of leading politicos who complained about “thugs” in Baltimore. Of course it ended up being more contained than the situation in Baltimore.

133 Great White Snark  May 18, 2015 12:44:44pm

Senate Candidate Loretta Sanchez Makes Disparaging Gesture About Native Americans.

The critics and opponents will try to blow this up huge, it’s really just a silly mis step. Not to be confused with the N word.

Video

134 b.d.  May 18, 2015 12:45:00pm

The Intercept is publishing a number of documents from the Snowden archive related to the Abbottabad raid and the hunt for bin Laden, which neither explicitly prove nor disprove any aspect of Seymour Hersh’s controversial account, but add context to the debate.

firstlook.org

I thought the stuff Snowden stole had to pertain to NSA domestic spying for it to be released?

135 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 18, 2015 12:45:08pm

re: #131 Dave In Austin

Kansas governor says using private email, cell is simpler

Republicans can do something and roundly condemn Democrats for doing the same thing. Just as conservatives have all earned their benefits so Governor Brownback has Good Reasons for using a private email and cell.

It’s in the Bible.

136 Dr Lizardo  May 18, 2015 12:46:31pm

I just read a glowing review for Pixar’s latest, Inside Out. Sounds quite promising; might have to check it out when it’s released here.

Pixar’s early work was heavily influenced by the films of the Japanese animator Hayao Miyazaki, and the fact that Inside Out’s plot is set in motion by a removal, with a pre-teen girl in the back of her family’s car apprehensively weighing up the fresh start she’s about to make, immediately connects it to Miyazaki’s 2001 masterpiece Spirited Away, which began with an identical set-up.

And it’s far from the only thing they have in common: both films are about the last days of childhood, the point at which our inner lives must be broken and rebuilt if we’re to flourish as adults - and both describe this chaotic, terrifying process by plunging their heroines into fantastical, Jungian wonderlands of fairies, monsters and waking dreams.

Around an hour in, as the film descends into Riley’s subconscious, you realise Inside Out is heading towards a very different ending than the proscribed straightforward happy one Joy has in mind. The bliss of childhood can’t last forever, after all, and as adults our happiest memories of it come ringed with sadness.

This is a humane and heart-wrenchingly beautiful film from Docter; even measured alongside Pixar’s numerous great pictures, it stands out as one of the studio’s very best.

He mentions Up in the review, and I admit, even a cynic like me got a little choked up in the opening of that film.

telegraph.co.uk

ETA: here’s the trailer: Youtube Video

137 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 12:47:03pm

re: #134 b.d.

Snowden got everything Greenwald and Poitras thought they needed for future projects.

138 ObserverArt  May 18, 2015 12:51:08pm

Dammit. Another crash at Indy.

I understand the driver, Canadian James Hinchcliffe was carted off to the Hospital. There are indications the side of the tub (drivers compartment) was penetrated and he has a broker femur, maybe pelvis.

Car was immediately impounded and moved off track…out the back gate.

Further practice for the race Sunday has been cancelled.

Now this one did not get back up into the air, maybe due to much of the big ass rear of the car taken off in the crash. However, it was leaning to the crashed side and as it slid down the track it got enough air to get almost rolled over.

Keep in mind, this is after they made some changes in the cars yesterday after three other scary crashes.

You folks already know my passions and some of my feelings, so I’m not going to say anymore and let everyone draw their own conclusions.

One thing…I hate seeing drivers get injured. I hope “Hinch” is going to be okay.

b_sharp…another Canadian!!!

…

139 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 12:51:47pm

He would.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., says he intends to extend expiring provisions of Patriot Act covering bulk data collection - @Reuters
end of alert

140 freetoken  May 18, 2015 12:52:06pm

As someone who maxes out my Cox limit, this sounds scary:

Cox Treads Carefully Into Usage-Based Pricing Plans

They are going to start in Cleveland, adding $10 to the bills of people who go over their limit.

I get 350Gb per month from Cox, which I completely use up. It’s not that much, really, if one streams HD.

141 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 12:52:20pm

Sources: The damage to the front of derailed Amtrak engine was not bullet holes. Damage is “undetermined” at the moment - @MikeNeilon
see original on twitter.com

142 BeachDem  May 18, 2015 12:53:00pm

re: #20 Dr. Matt

Shapiro was [repeatedly] dropped on his head as a child…..

and apparently the practice has continued well into his adulthood.

143 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 12:53:03pm

“Sources”

144 b_sharp  May 18, 2015 12:53:12pm

re: #138 ObserverArt

Dammit. Another crash at Indy.

I understand the driver, Canadian James Hinchcliffe was carted off to the Hospital. There are indications the side of the tub (drivers compartment) was penetrated and he has a broker femur, maybe pelvis.

Car was immediately impounded and moved off track…out the back gate.

Further practice for the race Sunday has been cancelled.

Now this one did not get back up into the air, maybe due to much of the big ass rear of the car taken off in the crash. However, it was leaning to the crashed side and as it slid down the track it got enough air to get almost rolled over.

Keep in mind, this is after they made some changes in the cars yesterday after three other scary crashes.

You folks already know my passions and some of my feelings, so I’m not going to say anymore and let everyone draw their own conclusions.

One thing…I hate seeing drivers get injured. I hope “Hinch” is going to be okay.

b_sharp…another Canadian!!!

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Crap.

145 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 18, 2015 12:53:16pm

re: #134 b.d.

firstlook.org

I thought the stuff Snowden stole had to pertain to NSA domestic spying for it to be released?

Just wait ‘til they release the documents that Snowden has on the real reason for the crash of the Hindenburg. And, that moon landing? Snowden’s documents are going to blow the lid right off of that bit of chicanery.

146 b_sharp  May 18, 2015 12:54:53pm

re: #138 ObserverArt

Dammit. Another crash at Indy.

I understand the driver, Canadian James Hinchcliffe was carted off to the Hospital. There are indications the side of the tub (drivers compartment) was penetrated and he has a broker femur, maybe pelvis.

Car was immediately impounded and moved off track…out the back gate.

Further practice for the race Sunday has been cancelled.

Now this one did not get back up into the air, maybe due to much of the big ass rear of the car taken off in the crash. However, it was leaning to the crashed side and as it slid down the track it got enough air to get almost rolled over.

Keep in mind, this is after they made some changes in the cars yesterday after three other scary crashes.

You folks already know my passions and some of my feelings, so I’m not going to say anymore and let everyone draw their own conclusions.

One thing…I hate seeing drivers get injured. I hope “Hinch” is going to be okay.

b_sharp…another Canadian!!!

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Video

Damn, that’s a bad accident. Good thing the car is built to dissipate energy or he would have been toast.

147 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 12:56:26pm

re: #138 ObserverArt

Dammit. Another crash at Indy.

I understand the driver, Canadian James Hinchcliffe was carted off to the Hospital. There are indications the side of the tub (drivers compartment) was penetrated and he has a broker femur, maybe pelvis.

Car was immediately impounded and moved off track…out the back gate.

Further practice for the race Sunday has been cancelled.

Now this one did not get back up into the air, maybe due to much of the big ass rear of the car taken off in the crash. However, it was leaning to the crashed side and as it slid down the track it got enough air to get almost rolled over.

Keep in mind, this is after they made some changes in the cars yesterday after three other scary crashes.

You folks already know my passions and some of my feelings, so I’m not going to say anymore and let everyone draw their own conclusions.

One thing…I hate seeing drivers get injured. I hope “Hinch” is going to be okay.

b_sharp…another Canadian!!!

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Video

I haven’t been following Indy car racing for a while—well, since that bloody fiasco in 1973, to tell the truth—but as somebody (probably you) said yesterday, these are not open wheel cars. They should have been disqualified before they ever hit the track.

Plus all the other aero shit you talk about.

148 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 12:57:16pm

re: #143 Justanotherhuman

“Sources”

“People familiar with the matter.”

149 Great White Snark  May 18, 2015 12:59:10pm

re: #138 ObserverArt

That looked like something blew around the engine… maybe put oil under the tires? Flash and smoke and then he just went straight.

150 b_sharp  May 18, 2015 1:00:45pm

re: #149 Great White Snark

That looked like something blew around the engine… maybe put oil under the tires? Flash and smoke and then he just went straight.

I saw that puff of smoke too.

Possibly the gearbox locked up a wheel.

151 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 18, 2015 1:01:32pm

re: #138 ObserverArt

That’s terrible. There’s obviously something very wrong with the body kits they’re forced to use. IndyCar’s failure to call a halt until the problems are solved seems nearly criminal.

152 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 1:02:17pm

re: #145 Higgs Boson’s Mate

firstlook.org

I thought the stuff Snowden stole had to pertain to NSA domestic spying for it to be released?

Just wait ‘til they release the documents that Snowden has on the real reason for the crash of the Hindenburg. And, that moon landing? Snowden’s documents are going to blow the lid right off of that bit of chicanery.

If there’s no Area 51 stuff in the Archive it will have been completely worthless.

/

153 ObserverArt  May 18, 2015 1:02:22pm

re: #147 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I haven’t been following Indy car racing for a while—well, since that bloody fiasco in 1973, to tell the truth—but as somebody (probably you) said yesterday, these are not open wheel cars. They should have been disqualified before they ever hit the track.

Plus all the other aero shit you talk about.

Rev…these cars are spec cars designed by the track who also runs the sport. They are all the same, and it is the ONLY CAR you can run. Obviously they would never be disqualified.

Only differences in the cars are some of the few body panels they have added this year to go with either a Chevy or Honda engine. The concern is the car that already was questionable is now more dangerous due to those areo body panels and wings.

154 b_sharp  May 18, 2015 1:02:46pm

re: #147 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I haven’t been following Indy car racing for a while—well, since that bloody fiasco in 1973, to tell the truth—but as somebody (probably you) said yesterday, these are not open wheel cars. They should have been disqualified before they ever hit the track.

Plus all the other aero shit you talk about.

Technically it is an open wheel car, even though the rear wheels are mostly covered, but that cowl is dangerous.

155 b_sharp  May 18, 2015 1:04:53pm

re: #147 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I haven’t been following Indy car racing for a while—well, since that bloody fiasco in 1973, to tell the truth—but as somebody (probably you) said yesterday, these are not open wheel cars. They should have been disqualified before they ever hit the track.

Plus all the other aero shit you talk about.

I was watching Swede get killed in the 73 Indy too.

156 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 1:05:06pm

re: #138 ObserverArt

Dammit. Another crash at Indy.

I understand the driver, Canadian James Hinchcliffe was carted off to the Hospital. There are indications the side of the tub (drivers compartment) was penetrated and he has a broker femur, maybe pelvis.

Car was immediately impounded and moved off track…out the back gate.

Further practice for the race Sunday has been cancelled.

Now this one did not get back up into the air, maybe due to much of the big ass rear of the car taken off in the crash. However, it was leaning to the crashed side and as it slid down the track it got enough air to get almost rolled over.

Keep in mind, this is after they made some changes in the cars yesterday after three other scary crashes.

You folks already know my passions and some of my feelings, so I’m not going to say anymore and let everyone draw their own conclusions.

One thing…I hate seeing drivers get injured. I hope “Hinch” is going to be okay.

b_sharp…another Canadian!!!

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Video

On the slow motion (4:00 into the video) if you step through it at about 4:10 it looks like something may have let go in the bottom end of the engine, or maybe the cooling system. There is what looks like a stream of liquid coming out between the rear tires just before he slides up into the corner.

RBS

157 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 1:07:12pm

What a pandering bastard. And way to misinterpret that law.

Presidential candidate Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., says President Clinton passed laws that ‘put generation of black men in prison’ - @thehill
read more on thehill.com

158 ObserverArt  May 18, 2015 1:07:22pm

re: #149 Great White Snark

That looked like something blew around the engine… maybe put oil under the tires? Flash and smoke and then he just went straight.

Now I hear there are concerns the areo is too much for the spec chassis and you are right, speculation is the right rear suspension collapsed. That would burn off the tire, maybe cut some oil lines or something.

This is what happens when you have people that don’t know cars and think they know racing to mandate a chassis design. Then you allow others to build kits that are adding more downforce to the chassis that might have never been able to handle it due to the original spec.

This is what is called screwing the pooch on the whole concept of this car.

Gotta run out for a bit. I’m going to check around some of the race forums and see what the hell they are going to do about this before they kill a driver and run the risk of putting one into the fence and maybe the crowd Sunday.

See you all!

159 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2015 1:09:27pm

Freepers really get their hate on:

French Mayor Pushes for New Law to Ban Islam: “We must ban the Muslim faith in France.” (This is a re-post from an utterly batshit teabag source)

A French mayor, Robert Chardon, is calling for governmental legislation that will ban Islam. He said in a recent statement:

We must ban the Muslim faith in France.

He also stated, “It’s the only solution for most of France’s problems,” and, “We also need a Marshall Plan to send Muslims to countries where the religion is practiced.” This man is the mayor of Venelles, a French town with a population of about 8,000 people, and he is more righteous than any of the politicians in Paris. It is amazing how small town people have a better understanding of how to deal with evil than do metropolitan people.

The author, one Theodore Shoebat, goes on to praise the Crusades, among other things.

Reactions to this outburst of flowery medievalism?

There were no Muslims, Mosques, Sharia, or Islamic terrorism in 17th-century Colonial America whose governments of, by, and for God were based upon His unchanging moral law, beginning with the First Commandment

It’s a cult not a religion . A cult based on murder , martyrdom and hyper intolerance . It should not enjoy protections or definition under the 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution .

I’d vote for banning Islam.

the US is being Islamized under the current regime as we speak .

The really terrible, and important, part is that these are not the pronouncements of a few crazed internet kooks. I hear this kind of stuff everywhere I go now, especially here in Texas. It is either a majority view or pretty close to it. I don’t think I have seen anything like this in my lifetime, which includes the often bitter response of bigots to the civil rights movement. Even then, the hatred was more muted and more restricted geographically, and open calls for the annihilation of black Americans were few and far between. Not so with the crazed haters of Islam, they openly advocate the literal destruction of American Muslims by deportation, conversion, or even mass murder.

160 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 1:10:28pm

Of course it doesn’t always take fancy aero:

Le Mans 1955 accident

161 Kragar  May 18, 2015 1:12:46pm

Well, 4.5 hours of sitting in a waiting room later, my civic duty has been completed for the next 2 years.

162 lawhawk  May 18, 2015 1:14:30pm

re: #119 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So who we got now? Let’s see:

1.Jeb! Bush (explor)
2.Bobbie Jindal (explor)
3.Ted Cruz
4.Mike Huckabee
5.Ben Carson
6.Carly Fiorina
7.Rand Paul
8.Lindsey Graham
9.Scott Walker (leaning)
10.Chris Christie (leaning)
11.Rick Santorum (leaning)
12.Marco Rubio
13.John Kasich (maybe)
14.Rick Perry (likely)

Am I leaving anyone out?

There’s Rep. Peter King and former NY Gov. Pataki.

And Trump (maybe, but the hair says yes).

163 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 1:14:40pm

re: #159 Shiplord Kirel

There were no Muslims, Mosques, Sharia, or Islamic terrorism in 17th-century Colonial America whose governments of, by, and for God were based upon His unchanging moral law, beginning with the First Commandment

Am I really reading that?

So this commenter hates religious (Islamic) fundamentalism but wants to replace it with another religious (his unique Christian) fundamentalism. Sigh.

164 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 18, 2015 1:14:47pm

re: #159 Shiplord Kirel

The really terrible, and important, part is that these are not the pronouncements of a few crazed internet kooks.

Until 9/11, most Americans were vaguely aware of Islam, or slightly ambivalent towards it. But that total lack of awareness of what Islam is and how it is practiced combined with blatant propagandizing has led to the current spread of Islamophobia.

165 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 1:14:51pm

re: #161 Kragar

Well, 4.5 hours of sitting in a waiting room later, my civic duty has been completed for the next 2 years.

That’s all? It was always sitting around in a waiting room 8 hours a day for a week for me, getting called in to a voir dire once or twice a day.

166 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 1:15:54pm

re: #159 Shiplord Kirel

the US is being Islamized under the current regime as we speak .

And it’s being homosexualized and secularized at the same time.

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167 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 1:16:45pm

re: #166 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And it’s being homosexualized and secularized at the same time.

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And Communized and Nazified and Feminized….

168 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 18, 2015 1:17:09pm

re: #167 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And Communized and Nazified and Feminized….

and disarmified

169 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 1:18:45pm

re: #159 Shiplord Kirel

I never knew the American Experiment in self-government and Liberty was about “government of, by and for God.”

How’d I become so mistaken?

//

170 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2015 1:18:46pm

It is becoming dangerous to be a Muslim in Texas, or even someone who defends the rights of Muslims. There haven’t been any really violent assaults yet, but you can’t have a majority of preachers and a large percentage of politicians and pundits preaching hatred and not eventually have someone act on that incitement.

171 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 1:19:18pm

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

and disarmified

And at the same time Military Takeovered…

172 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2015 1:21:52pm

re: #163 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Am I really reading that?

So this commenter hates religious (Islamic) fundamentalism but wants to replace it with another religious (his unique Christian) fundamentalism. Sigh.

Exactly right. These people have been fed a constant diet of mythology and flat out lies about American history and the founding principles. They wave the Constitution around a lot but they are profoundly ignorant of its Enlightenment origins or the real ideas behind it.

173 Kragar  May 18, 2015 1:24:20pm

re: #165 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s all? It was always sitting around in a waiting room 8 hours a day for a week for me, getting called in to a

once or twice a day.

Federal district court. Here is how they do it for CA

You get a notice that you’re on call for 30 days. You call in every Sunday to get your status, either to call back on Monday or come into the court.

If you call back Monday, they tell you either to call back next Sunday or come in.

Today, they had about 50 of us report in. 30 were randomly selected to be brought in to form a jury, the rest of us, including myself were placed on standby.

At noon, we got the announcement the jury had been selected and we should call in tonight.

Technically, we could be called back in, but the clerk stated they already had a new set of people set to be called in tomorrow. He said they had roughly 2000 people on call for the month, and our group was about half way down the list. For us to be called in again, they would need to work thru the list of people yet to be called, then work back thru the list of selectees who had already been called in and let go before they would work their way back to our group before the end of the month.

So basically, barring some weird series of events suddenly creating dozens of federal court cases in the next 2 weeks, I’m done.

174 retired cynic  May 18, 2015 1:25:58pm

re: #140 freetoken

As someone who maxes out my Cox limit, this sounds scary:

Cox Treads Carefully Into Usage-Based Pricing Plans

They are going to start in Cleveland, adding $10 to the bills of people who go over their limit.

I get 350Gb per month from Cox, which I completely use up. It’s not that much, really, if one streams HD.

Wow. I’m on satellite, and I am restricted to 20GB per month. And it isn’t cheap.

175 BeachDem  May 18, 2015 1:26:23pm

re: #102 jaunte

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Fox, once again confused about Constitution.

When I want a legal opinion, bug-eater Elisabeth is always my go-to person. Uh huh.

HASSELBECK: …But now we hear about this appeals process, and we’re wondering, well, where’s the justice in that?

So this is the first Lis has heard about the appeals process? Quelle surprise!

176 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 18, 2015 1:27:02pm

re: #172 Shiplord Kirel

Exactly right. These people have been fed a constant diet of mythology and flat out lies about American history and the founding principles. They wave the Constitution around a lot but they are profoundly ignorant of its Enlightenment origins or the real ideas behind it.

They overlook tht when America was founded, there were many Muslims among the black slaves, and certainly an abuyndance of non-Christians among the Native Americans, but those guys do not rate the history books that they have read.

177 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 1:27:16pm

re: #172 Shiplord Kirel

Exactly right. These people have been fed a constant diet of mythology and flat out lies about American history and the founding principles. They wave the Constitution around a lot but they are profoundly ignorant of its Enlightenment origins or the real ideas behind it.

It’s just almost a sacrilege to read that FR comment. Deliberately removing “the people” and inserting “God”.

178 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 1:28:33pm

Well, they killed other white guys, so…

UPDATE: Bonds Set At $1 Million For Twin Peaks Shooting Suspects

kwtx.com

etween rival biker gangs and police Sunday at Waco’s Twin Peaks restaurant that left nine dead and 18 injured were ordered held in lieu of $1 million bonds Monday while investigators continued the painstaking process of gathering evidence at the crime scene.

By early afternoon about a third of the suspects had been booked into the McLennan County Jail.

All 170 will be processed into the jail, Sheriff Parnell McNamara said Monday, although some may later be transferred to other facilities.

Affidavits and arrest warrants totaled more than 500 pages, an official said.

At least some and technically all of those in custody could be charged with capital murder because of the number of victims, Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton said. More

179 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 1:28:53pm

re: #175 BeachDem

When I want a legal opinion, bug-eater Elisabeth is always my go-to person. Uh huh.

HASSELBECK: …But now we hear about this appeals process, and we’re wondering, well, where’s the justice in that?

So this is the first Lis has heard about the appeals process? Quelle surprise!

Yeah but appeals is for only Real Americans not for Muslim terrorists!!!111

180 TedStriker  May 18, 2015 1:30:02pm

re: #140 freetoken

As someone who maxes out my Cox limit, this sounds scary:

Cox Treads Carefully Into Usage-Based Pricing Plans

They are going to start in Cleveland, adding $10 to the bills of people who go over their limit.

I get 350Gb per month from Cox, which I completely use up. It’s not that much, really, if one streams HD.

Welcome to my world…Comcast has been doing that to me here in Nashville for the past couple of years, only my monthly cap is 300 GB and it’s $10/every 50 GB over the cap.

Damn, I can’t wait for Google Fiber to build out here…

181 TedStriker  May 18, 2015 1:30:36pm

re: #174 retired cynic

Wow. I’m on satellite, and I am restricted to 20GB per month. And it isn’t cheap.

Ouch…

182 retired cynic  May 18, 2015 1:31:09pm

re: #166 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And it’s being homosexualized and secularized at the same time.

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Not to mention feminized! (Edit: Whoops, someone already got that.)

183 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 1:31:17pm

From PZ’s Place, a novel solution for declining education budgets:

184 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2015 1:31:23pm

re: #178 Justanotherhuman

Well, they killed other white guys, so…

UPDATE: Bonds Set At $1 Million For Twin Peaks Shooting Suspects

kwtx.com

etween rival biker gangs and police Sunday at Waco’s Twin Peaks restaurant that left nine dead and 18 injured were ordered held in lieu of $1 million bonds Monday while investigators continued the painstaking process of gathering evidence at the crime scene.

By early afternoon about a third of the suspects had been booked into the McLennan County Jail.

All 170 will be processed into the jail, Sheriff Parnell McNamara said Monday, although some may later be transferred to other facilities.

Affidavits and arrest warrants totaled more than 500 pages, an official said.

At least some and technically all of those in custody could be charged with capital murder because of the number of victims, Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton said. More

That is a potential death penalty. In Texas. We haven’t had a mass hanging since the 1800s. It’s not impossible, plenty of people want to get rid of lethal injection and get back to the tried and true. Maybe they can sell the TV rights.

185 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 1:32:55pm

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel

Well, TX does like to execute people.

186 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 18, 2015 1:33:42pm

re: #183 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From PZ’s Place, a novel solution for declining education budgets:

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It’s not hard to guess why that picketer regards psychology as a tool of the devil.

187 lawhawk  May 18, 2015 1:36:03pm
188 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 1:39:54pm

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel

That is a potential death penalty. In Texas. We haven’t had a mass hanging since the 1800s. It’s not impossible, plenty of people want to get rid of lethal injection and get back to the tried and true. Maybe they can sell the TV rights.

Watch out or you’ll have what we had in Washington—some guy said he was so heavy he’d be decapitated if he was hanged and that would be “cruel and unusual”. Dragged out the appeals for many, many years…

189 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 1:43:25pm

re: #188 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Watch out or you’ll have what we had in Washington—some guy said he was so heavy he’d be decapitated if he was hanged and that would be “cruel and unusual”. Dragged out the appeals for many, many years…

Welp, the guillotine is still the most efficient method even if it is messy.

190 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 18, 2015 1:43:41pm

re: #183 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From PZ’s Place, a novel solution for declining education budgets:

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Because those are the only two options: Obey Jesus or the Devil.

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191 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 1:47:50pm

re: #189 Lord Of The Pies

Welp, the guillotine is still the most efficient method even if it is messy.

Some have speculated that you could remain conscious long enough to look back at your body as your head rolled into the basket….

A properly executed (sorry) hanging is about the most humane method there is—more so that putting somebody in a giant Hot Dogger™, for sure.

I’m old enough to remember Hot Doggers. Before “vacuum packed” weiners that just split open.

192 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 1:48:08pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
OK Girl Chuck, when is your birthday?

193 EPR-radar  May 18, 2015 1:49:21pm

re: #183 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This guy is a sophisticated wingnut. The only error on the sign is a singular-plural error (i.e., child … them).

194 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 1:49:48pm

re: #192 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
OK Girl Chuck, when is your birthday?

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So resuscitation when your heart stops never happens?

195 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 1:50:05pm

re: #191 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Some have speculated that you could remain conscious long enough to look back at your body as your head rolled into the basket….

A properly executed (sorry) hanging is about the most humane method there is—more so that putting somebody in a giant Hot DoggerTM, for sure.

I’m old enough to remember Hot Doggers. Before “vacuum packed” weiners that just split open

It would be cruel and unusual just having your neck locked into the device and however long before the blade drops.

196 Great White Snark  May 18, 2015 1:51:58pm

Well darn it got here a bit late to talk to Observer Art on the Helio Castranevas crash. This view from the inside of his car is terrifying.

Video

197 b_sharp  May 18, 2015 1:52:30pm

re: #191 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Some have speculated that you could remain conscious long enough to look back at your body as your head rolled into the basket….

A properly executed (sorry) hanging is about the most humane method there is—more so that putting somebody in a giant Hot DoggerTM, for sure.

I’m old enough to remember Hot Doggers. Before “vacuum packed” weiners that just split open.

If you’re going to execute people, and I disagree vehemently with the death penalty, putting the person in a pure nitrogen room is the most humane. No CO2 panic, just a bit of confusion and falling asleep.

198 Kragar  May 18, 2015 1:52:52pm
199 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 1:54:26pm

NTSB: FBI examination of windshield of derailed Amtrak train found no evidence of damage caused by a firearm - @Reuters
end of alert

200 Kragar  May 18, 2015 1:54:31pm
201 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 2:00:45pm

It had been on its way to Oahu.

Officials say Hawaiian Airlines flight 3 that is reporting a possible mechanical issue is inbound to Los Angeles International - @CBSLA
losangeles.cbslocal.com

202 goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2015 2:01:26pm

re: #198 Kragar

The day after a mass shooting between rival biker gangs in Texas left nine people dead, lawmakers in the state discussed a bill on Monday that would allow licensed gun owners to openly carry their weapons in public.

This term always puzzles me in articles about states like Texas where no license of any kind is required to purchase or own guns. Passing a federal NICS background check is not a license, and a NICS isn’t even required there for non-FFL private party transfers. Basically if this law passes and you have a gun you can carry it in public with impunity unless a cops knows in advance that you’re disqualified by virtue of being a felon, etc. So the whole bit about being a “licensed gun owner” is just total bullshit.

203 Kragar  May 18, 2015 2:06:42pm

re: #202 goddamnedfrank

Wonder how that will work out:

…

204 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 2:09:03pm
205 Kragar  May 18, 2015 2:09:54pm

Robert Doggart was arrested last month after FBI officials said the ordained minister tried to recruit “expert Gunners” on social media to help him burn down a mosque, school, and other buildings in Hancock, New York - where law enforcement officials are frequently called to investigate right-wing rumors.

The 63-year-old Doggart was recorded speaking to a South Carolina militia member about the plot, which the failed Tennessee congressional candidate feared could turn deadly.

“If there’s a gun fight, well there’s a gun fight, and I want to come home because I love my family and I want to see my kids again,” Doggart told the militia member. “But I also understand that if it’s necessary to die, then that’s a good way to die.”

Doggart pleaded guilty last week to one count of interstate communication of threats, and he remains free on bond until his sentencing - when he faces up to five years in prison.

Prosecutors said Doggart gathered an M4 rifle, explosives, and light armor piercing bullets in connection with the plot, and investigators said he was recruiting snipers through social media and by telephone.

“When we meet in this state, the people we seek will know who we are,” Doggart told a woman during a recorded phone call. “We will be cruel to them, and we will burn down their buildings. If anyone attempts to harm us in any way, our stand gunner will take them down from 350 yards away.”

“The standoff gunner would be me,” Doggart added.

Doggart told an FBI informant that he believed the plot would succeed because the town employs only four police officers, and the volunteer fire department would take 35 minutes to respond.

206 goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2015 2:12:52pm

re: #202 goddamnedfrank

Strictly speaking we don’t need licenses here in California to purchase or own guns. I do have a “Firearms Safety Certificate” needed to purchase, and all transfers have to go through an FFL and involve a background check, but the only piece of paper I have to prove my guns are truly legally mine are the purchase receipts. Sometimes the store prints out a copy of the DROS form, but not always.

In any event if that paper gets lost I’m still not in violation of any laws if say a cop stops me to / from the range and I tell him I’ve got guns in the car as long as they’re legally stored. The most they can do is write down the serial numbers and see if the guns have been reported stolen, and theoretically the CA DOJ might check to see if they have records of them being legally transferred to me. The practical problem with that is that they only started retaining transfer records of longarm sales this year.

So yeah, the term “licensed gun owner” implies a level of verification that’s simply not available in many states, especially States that keep no records of sales at all, like Texas.

207 wrenchwench  May 18, 2015 2:14:30pm

In honor of last Saturday’s weather:

…

208 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 2:15:44pm

re: #193 EPR-radar

This guy is a sophisticated wingnut. The only error on the sign is a singular-plural error (i.e., child … them).

I’ve got to defend him on that—I unapologetically use the third-person plural rather than choosing between he/him or she/her (or it!) all the time. If we can use the second-person plural for the singular, why not?

209 Varek Raith  May 18, 2015 2:18:58pm

Hi.

210 witw  May 18, 2015 2:20:52pm

re: #202 goddamnedfrank

A Concealed Handgun License in Texas requires a background check to establish no prior felony or class 3 misdemeanor convictions, classroom hours and qualification at a gun range. It may not be to your liking but it’s certainly not total bullshit.

211 Kragar  May 18, 2015 2:23:59pm
212 goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2015 2:26:24pm

re: #210 witw

A Concealed Handgun License in Texas requires a background check to establish no prior felony or class 3 misdemeanor convictions, classroom hours and qualification at a gun range. It may not be to your liking but it’s certainly not total bullshit.

The proposed law in question applies to open carry, not concealed.

213 goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2015 2:30:32pm

re: #210 witw

See, I even quoted the bit about the bill applying to open carry in the comment you responded to. Here it is again:

The day after a mass shooting between rival biker gangs in Texas left nine people dead, lawmakers in the state discussed a bill on Monday that would allow licensed gun owners to openly carry their weapons in public.

How you read that and start talking about the current concealed carry requirements I don’t even know.

214 witw  May 18, 2015 2:33:04pm

re: #212 goddamnedfrank

The proposed law will allow open carry only by CHL holders, it is a compromise that pleases no one. Those who pushed for open carry did so because they were not eligible for a CHL so they are less than satisfied with this law. An unintended consequence of this law passing will be a proliferation of NO GUNS signs at business and other establishments which will limit concealed carry as well. Once CHL holders figure this out there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth and it will be a long two years before the lege meets again to modify the sign law.

215 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 2:36:33pm

re: #211 Kragar

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How many automobiles were on the roads 102 years ago?

216 witw  May 18, 2015 2:36:48pm

re: #213 goddamnedfrank

Because I live in Texas and keep up with what our lege is doing. It’s not something I would expect those outside the state to do.

217 psddluva4evah  May 18, 2015 2:38:22pm

ETA: I can still remember the picture of him in a closet with military guns drawn

218 goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2015 2:39:45pm

re: #214 witw

The proposed law will allow open carry only by CHL holders, it is a compromise that pleases no one. Those who pushed for open carry did so because they were not eligible for a CHL so they are less than satisfied with this law. An unintended consequence of this law passing will be a proliferation of NO GUNS signs at business and other establishments which will limit concealed carry as well. Once CHL holders figure this out there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth and it will be a long two years before the lege meets again to modify the sign law.

I see. Thanks.

219 EPR-radar  May 18, 2015 3:03:53pm

re: #208 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

re: #193 EPR-radar

I’ve got to defend him on that—I unapologetically use the third-person plural rather than choosing between he/him or she/her (or it!) all the time. If we can use the second-person plural for the singular, why not?

But the fix for that sign is so easy —— just refer to ‘children’ to begin with.

220 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 3:07:35pm

re: #219 EPR-radar

But the fix for that sign is so easy —— just refer to ‘children’ to begin with.

Well, yeah—I would use “children” anyway, because “you” is plural in that case. Unless it’s aimed at one person in particular. Seriously, bring back “thou”! (Or use “youse” or “y’all” for the plural.)

221 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 3:35:29pm

Testing.

222 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 3:37:06pm

Had a little bug there, introduced when I added the avatars to the comment posting form. Fixed now.

223 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 3:40:52pm

From the Unintended Consequences file.

224 darthstar  May 18, 2015 3:42:13pm

I think this picture pretty much sums up Jim Hoft on the internet.

225 Great White Snark  May 18, 2015 3:43:42pm

re: #223 teleskiguy

Maybe now they will take the haters off. A few Oval Office account complaints may help.

226 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 3:44:14pm

A comment at Hoft’s site, where he hasn’t changed a thing in his dishonest post:

When are you going to change the headline to read what was actually uncovered, i.e. that US intelligence was aware that terrorists were sending weapons from Benghazi to Syria.

Getting the story 180 degrees wrong is about as bad as you can get. I can’t stand the State Dept coverup any more than you, but the CIA was not there to send weapons but to monitor terrorists sending weapons.

Frankly I don’t know which is worse. Had we sent our weapons maybe Assad would be gone by now, but instead we just watched terrorists send the weapons to whichever group they wanted to.

But with all the fog of war we need to keep the basic facts straight. Rand Paul was not right, he was dead wrong, if you believe the actual Fox News story. Take the time to listen/read the story you’re promulgating.

227 darthstar  May 18, 2015 3:44:41pm

re: #223 teleskiguy

From the Unintended Consequences file.

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Didn’t someone else own the @potus handle? BlackWaterDog or someome like that.

228 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 3:45:02pm

You thought Jeb Bush was stupid:

But this guy:

Marco Rubio Gets His Chance To Flub Iraq Question, Nails It

229 b.d.  May 18, 2015 3:45:06pm

I’m liking Bernie Sanders more and more:

RALPH NADER: Bernie Sanders does not answer my calls. Fifteen years, he’s never answered a telephone call, never replied to a letter, never replied to a meeting that I wanted to go down and see him.

democracynow.org

The interview is all your basic dudebro, emoprog whinage but that quote made me chuckle.

230 darthstar  May 18, 2015 3:46:26pm

re: #227 darthstar

Didn’t someone else own the @potus handle? BlackWaterDog or someome like that.

Never mind…it’s Barracks Obama @p0tus - using the zero for an o. That explains my confusion.

231 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 3:47:46pm

re: #229 b.d.

I’m liking Bernie Sanders more and more:

democracynow.org

The interview is all your basic dudebro, emoprog whinage but that quote made me chuckle.

If I still had my old Corvair, I’d invite Ralph down for a ride in it.

232 darthstar  May 18, 2015 3:48:11pm

re: #228 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You thought Jeb Bush was stupid:

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But this guy:

Marco Rubio Gets His Chance To Flub Iraq Question, Nails It

Nancy Pelosi framed it beautifully today - It’s not “Would you support invading Iraq knowing what we know now.” It’s “Would you support invading Iraq knowing what we knew then?(That the intelligence was bullshit.)

233 goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2015 3:49:07pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

A comment at Hoft’s site, where he hasn’t changed a thing in his dishonest post:

It’s the same lie told about the ATF’s Fast and Furious program, that guns were “walked” across the border. In both cases the government was monitoring a black market trade that for different reasons it was incapable of preventing outright.

234 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 3:49:37pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

A comment at Hoft’s site, where he hasn’t changed a thing in his dishonest post:

Jim Hoft:

235 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 3:50:58pm

*sigh*

236 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 3:53:28pm

re: #234 teleskiguy

Jim Hoft:

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“M. O. O. N. That spells….”

237 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 3:54:56pm

re: #236 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“M. O. O. N. That spells….”

With apologies to Bill Fagerbakke, who’s probably a great guy….

238 b.d.  May 18, 2015 3:55:06pm

re: #77 Lord Of The Pies

*FACE PALM*

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HEH!

239 Great White Snark  May 18, 2015 3:59:25pm

Category
Only In Los Angeles

Sushi chef at Santa Monica restaurant sentenced in whale meat case

200 hours community service, could have gotten 3 years in jail. I hope he serves meals to the whales at Sea World for his service.

240 goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2015 4:00:30pm

re: #232 darthstar

RUBIO: It was NOT a mistake, given the fact what the president knew at the time …

I like how the Republicans just forget how much of the evidence for an ongoing WMD program in Iraq was simply faked. The aluminum tube bullshit was pushed even though the CIA told the administration they simply weren’t conducive for use in centrifuges, Ambassador Wilson’s report on the phantom yellowcake form Niger that was simply ignored, the Curveball source that everyone in the know understood was a serial liar.

The only thing Bush “knew” at the time was that he was going to invade Iraq by hook or by crook.

241 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 4:04:30pm

Wingnuts are spewing hate at Samantha Power, and I discovered this tweet from one of Chuck’s friends he retweets often:

REALLY? “41% of rape accusations are faked?”

Not really. This is the page he’s linking to: False Rape Allegations. - PubMed - NCBI.

And here’s what it really says:

With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a 9 year period were studied. These false rape allegations constitute 41% the total forcible rape cases (n = 109) reported during this period. These false allegations appear to serve three major functions for the complainants: providing an alibi, seeking revenge, and obtaining sympathy and attention. False rape allegations are not the consequence of a gender-linked aberration, as frequently claimed, but reflect impulsive and desperate efforts to cope with personal and social stress situations.

So the “41%” figure applies ONLY to the rapes reported in this one “small metropolitan community,” and the study says nothing at all about false rape reports in general.

These people are sick. I can’t tell if he’s deliberately distorting this or if he’s too stupid to understand what he’s reading.

242 Targetpractice  May 18, 2015 4:06:16pm

re: #240 goddamnedfrank

I like how the Republicans just forget how much of the evidence for an ongoing WMD program in Iraq was simply faked. The aluminum tube bullshit was pushed even though the CIA told the administration they simply weren’t conducive for use in centrifuges, Ambassador Wilson’s report on the phantom yellowcake form Niger that was simply ignored, the Curveball source that everyone in the know understood was a serial liar.

The only thing Bush “knew” at the time was that he was going to invade Iraq by hook or by crook.

The decision had already been made, the excuse just had to be ginned up. Hence the sudden reclassification of chemical weapons as WMDs, something that should have been laughed right out of the UN.

243 Great White Snark  May 18, 2015 4:06:19pm

Question for each and every Presidential candidate-If Iraq was going to fall to ISIS despite allies and airpower, would you send troops or let it fall?

244 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 4:06:39pm

re: #240 goddamnedfrank

I like how the Republicans just forget how much of the evidence for an ongoing WMD program in Iraq was simply faked. The aluminum tube bullshit was pushed even though the CIA told the administration they simply weren’t conducive for use in centrifuges, Ambassador Wilson’s report on the phantom yellowcake form Niger that was simply ignored, the Curveball source that everyone in the know understood was a serial liar.

The only thing Bush “knew” at the time was that he was going to invade Iraq by hook or by crook.

At the risk of tiresomely repeating myself, when Rubio says this:

RUBIO: No, it was not the same question. The question was whether it was a mistake, and my answer was, it’s not a mistake. I still say it was not a mistake, because the president was presented with intelligence that said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, it was governed by a man who had committed atrocities in the past with weapons of mass destruction.

That is just a fucking lie, in 2002 and today. Chemical weapons were never “weapons of mass destruction” until the dishonest lying campaign to get us into a war with Iraq, and they still aren’t.

245 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 4:06:43pm

Here’s another study that did actually try to determine the overall prevalence of false rape reports, and it came up with … between 2% and 10%, a much lower and more believable figure.

False Allegations of Sexual Assault: An Analysis of Ten Years of Reported Cases. - PubMed - NCBI

One of the most controversial disputes affecting the discourse related to violence against women is the dispute about the frequency of false allegations of sexual assault. In an effort to add clarity to the discourse, published research on false allegations is critiqued, and the results of a new study described. All cases (N = 136) of sexual assault reported to a major Northeastern university over a 10-year period are analyzed to determine the percentage of false allegations. Of the 136 cases of sexual assault reported over the 10-year period, 8 (5.9%) are coded as false allegations. These results, taken in the context of an examination of previous research, indicate that the prevalence of false allegations is between 2% and 10%.

246 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 4:08:23pm

re: #244 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Late again!

247 Great White Snark  May 18, 2015 4:10:33pm

re: #244 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Mr Rubio-
Why not North Korea? Dangerous despot, check. Weapons of mass destruction, acquired, check, tested, check, deployed check. Millions of people and key allies at risk, check. American interests including military bases, check. Failed sanctions….

If you win do you plan to end North Koreas nuclear weapons program by force if necessary?

248 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 4:13:30pm

re: #247 Great White Snark

Mr Rubio-
Why not North Korea? Dangerous despot, check. Weapons of mass destruction, acquired, check, tested, check, deployed check. Millions of people and key allies at risk, check. American interests including military bases, check. Failed sanctions….

If you win do you plan to end North Koreas nuclear weapons program by force if necessary?

Remember all of NK’s tests were failures—something the right-wing media doesn’t seem to grasp.

249 Mike Lamb  May 18, 2015 4:13:55pm

re: #241 Charles Johnson

It still means that 60% of rape allegations, even in a tiny locale, are legitimate. Not exactly a glowing stat in support of his argument.

250 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 4:15:31pm

re: #249 Mike Lamb

It still means that 2 of 3 rape allegations, even in a tiny locale, are legitimate. Not exactly a glowing stat in support of his argument.

And what percentage of real rapes are actually reported, because of the ridiculous hurdles and victim-blaming these parasites support? As much as 10% ?

(Should that be “many”?)

251 goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2015 4:17:45pm

re: #244 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

At the risk of tiresomely repeating myself, when Rubio says this:

That is just a fucking lie, in 2002 and today. Chemical weapons were never “weapons of mass destruction” until the dishonest lying campaign to get us into a war with Iraq, and they still aren’t.

Meh, they’re really fucking nasty and the subject of an international convention barring their use. A better argument is that Bush was targeting Saddam for uses that were sanctioned by the Reagan administration. Reagan’s team provided Saddam’s military with satellite imagery on Iran’s troop movements, essentially telling him where to target those weapons. Reagan’s administration also ran interference in the UN, shielding Iraq from any Resolution condemning and punishing them for their use of chemical weapons.

252 Wozza Matter?  May 18, 2015 4:20:38pm

evenin’ all

253 GlutenFreeJesus  May 18, 2015 4:25:05pm

SOFA. It isn’t the thing you lay down on all day, tweeting ignorance!

254 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 4:31:27pm

Icelandic public TV network airs 24 hours of sheep birthing

What more can be said?

255 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 4:32:21pm
256 goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2015 4:43:56pm

This is notable because every single person involved is some fierce brand of horrible. So of course Chuck jumped in and retweeted it.

257 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 4:50:27pm

re: #256 goddamnedfrank

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This is notable because every single person involved is some fierce brand of horrible. So of course Chuck jumped in and retweeted it.

These are some of the worst people in this country. Chuck is attracted to real scumbags.

258 The Ghost of a Flea  May 18, 2015 4:53:37pm

re: #257 Charles Johnson

These are some of the worst people in this country. Chuck is attracted to real scumbags.


…and scumbags are attracted to Chuck.

I don’t know what the fuck the “dark enlightenment” is supposed to be, but it sure involves a lot of guys who are 1/4th potato.

259 goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2015 4:56:30pm

I wasn’t familiar with Julie Borowski before, but according to GIS she’s some kind of Libertarian version of Boxxy.

260 Belafon  May 18, 2015 4:56:46pm

re: #238 b.d.

Did you see the followup:

#askingforafriend indeed.

261 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 7:08:16pm

re: #235 teleskiguy

*sigh*

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But he’s probably right.

Grover Nordquist has the proto-corpse in the bathtub with its head under water.


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