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1 elizajane  May 18, 2015 4:24:43pm
This will be forever classic.
2 #FergusonFireside  May 18, 2015 5:11:50pm

Edit….
Some brilliant photo shop person did the YOLO one.

Dog I do wish he goes out in flames.

Then changes the world even more.

3 Belafon  May 18, 2015 5:14:10pm

Every tweet that contains @POTUS (or the name of any other elected official) is being archived by the government, or, as Gawker puts it:

The White House Is Archiving Every Tweet Begging @POTUS for Sex

On Twitter, the White House automatically archives “tweets” from official White House accounts, “direct messages” sent to or from official White House accounts, and “mentions” (tweets from other users to official White House accounts; these tweets contain an @ and the username of an official White House account (e.g., @WhiteHouse).

4 #FergusonFireside  May 18, 2015 5:15:30pm

re: #3 Belafon

Every tweet that contains @POTUS (or the name of any other elected official) is being archived by the government, or, as Gawker puts it:

The White House Is Archiving Every Tweet Begging @POTUS for Sex

lol. America.

5 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 5:17:48pm

Gotta Benghazi troofer in my time line

6 De Kolta Chair  May 18, 2015 5:17:53pm

OT but fingers crossed that on David Letterman’s show tomorrow night Bill Murray will resurrect his SNL lounge singer Nick Ocean and duet with Bob Dylan on “Mack The Knife.”

7 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2015 5:19:54pm

re: #5 Lord Of The Pies

Gotta Benghazi troofer in my time line

[Where was Obama from 5pm - 5am? Do you know? I don’t. NOBODY DOES.

Hey, don’t ask me—wasn’t my night for Executive Bedcheck.

8 majii  May 18, 2015 5:20:52pm

They’re pissed because they’re getting a dose of reality and are finding out that not everyone hates this president the way they do. They’re losing their freaking minds, and I’m enjoying the hell out of it!

9 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 5:25:35pm

I hope he trolls the hell out of some of his detractors.

re: #4 #FergusonFireside

What? We have a president who’s a real sex symbol?

That should enrage the RWNJs even more. : )

10 A Cranky One  May 18, 2015 5:25:59pm

re: #2 #FergusonFireside

I’ve been in a meeting all day. But that fuck it tweet? wha?

It’s a fake tweet. Easy to do.

This is a FAKE tweet.
11 #FergusonFireside  May 18, 2015 5:26:47pm

re: #10 A Cranky One

It’s a fake tweet. Easy to do.

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love it.

12 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 5:29:06pm

Fuggetaboutit. You”re finished. Find something productive to do.

Waco, Texas, restaurant continues to dispute police reports that management refused to cooperate with police before and after biker gang fight in new statement - @KCENNews
read more on kcentv.com

13 #FergusonFireside  May 18, 2015 5:29:56pm

re: #12 Justanotherhuman

Fuggetaboutit. You”re finished. Find something productive to do.

Waco, Texas, restaurant continues to dispute police reports that management refused to cooperate with police before and after biker gang fight in new statement - @KCENNews
read more on kcentv.com

They need a 500K bail to put them in their place.

14 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 5:30:35pm

Please report the tweet by Jeff Gully

15 Belafon  May 18, 2015 5:34:50pm

What if the Twitter account was set up just to collect the names of those to be rounded up for FEMA camps?

16 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2015 5:35:12pm

Apparently, blue checkmarks are not distributed in accordance with the bell curve.

17 Decatur Deb  May 18, 2015 5:36:14pm

re: #15 Belafon

What if the Twitter account was set up just to collect the names of those to be rounded up for FEMA camps?

Everybody goes to the FEMA camps. Tweeting ugly gets you on the KP roster.

18 A Cranky One  May 18, 2015 5:36:55pm

re: #12 Justanotherhuman

Fuggetaboutit. You”re finished. Find something productive to do.

Waco, Texas, restaurant continues to dispute police reports that management refused to cooperate with police before and after biker gang fight in new statement - @KCENNews
read more on kcentv.com

The company revoked the franchise agreement for the Waco location. They won’t be open again any time soon.

19 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 5:39:33pm

2 men arrested in alleged plan to use rocket launcher to bomb Eustis, Fla., Police Department

mynews13.com

20 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 5:40:30pm

It’s very easy to create a fake tweet, using the Safari (or Chrome) Web Inspector to edit the HTML:

21 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2015 5:41:51pm

re: #15 Belafon

What if the Twitter account was set up just to collect the names of those to be rounded up for FEMA camps?

Shhhh! Opsec!

22 SteelPH  May 18, 2015 5:45:48pm

What right wing racism?

23 #FergusonFireside  May 18, 2015 5:49:55pm

I missed the gossipy news I love so much that Bristol Palin called off the wedding (after the incredible 3 month courtship) to the MOH Dakota Marine - he held the fuck you Michael Moore sign with her mother- A match made in heaven.

Thank dog they came to their senses (sic)

24 CriticalDragon1177  May 18, 2015 5:51:10pm

Vicious Babushka

I love the smell of wingnut rage in the morning! It smells like victory!

25 Unabogie  May 18, 2015 5:54:03pm

HERR HERR ALL 0BUMMER DOES IS TWITTER AND GOLF

26 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 5:56:14pm

Brain cleaner…

27 CriticalDragon1177  May 18, 2015 5:56:45pm

re: #15 Belafon

What if the Twitter account was set up just to collect the names of those to be rounded up for FEMA camps?

We really should ask those wingnuts that believes in the “FEMA camps” why they’ve never heard from anyone who was actually in one. They must be really effective death camps, everyone who has ever been to one must have died, even the people who run them, especially since our “tyrannical government” is able to hide them, despite the fact that we have free press.

28 PhillyPretzel  May 18, 2015 5:58:36pm

re: #26 Justanotherhuman

lol

29 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 5:59:41pm

re: #28 PhillyPretzel

Inorite? I’m still laughing.

30 PhillyPretzel  May 18, 2015 6:01:49pm

re: #29 Justanotherhuman

I am laughing too. I need a good laugh today I will be working at the polls tomorrow.

31 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 6:03:00pm

This one got retweeted by a couple of folks who thought I was being serious.

32 Lord Of The Pies  May 18, 2015 6:11:40pm

#WakeUpAmerica a hashtag even more batshit insane than #tcot

33 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2015 6:11:48pm

re: #27 CriticalDragon1177

We really should ask those wingnuts that believes in the “FEMA camps” why they’ve never heard from anyone who was actually in one. They must be really effective death camps, everyone who has ever been to one must have died, even the people who run them, especially since our “tyrannical government” is able to hide them, despite the fact that we have free press.

Alex Jones and company figured out a way to monetize ignorance, and where some new scam appears the GOP is sure to follow.

34 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 6:12:52pm

I had lots of material for another post on the Chuck-thing today, but I just had to take a break because he’s one of the most toxic horrible people I’ve ever encountered. Hard to believe he’s built up such hatred and so many psychological problems in just 26 years on this planet.

The US right wing is creating and feeding monsters like Chuck.

35 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 6:14:09pm

Hey, I’ll tweet at the President!

It can’t hurt, eh?

36 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2015 6:15:02pm

re: #31 teleskiguy

This one got retweeted by a couple of folks who thought I was being serious.

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Poe’s law is close to becoming a universal constant. I have joked about RWNJs blaming all ills on Mexican Muslims, but some freepers really did assert that the Waco shootout gangs were in fact Mexicans and Muslims and the media were conspiring with Obama to conceal these facts.

37 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 6:15:48pm
38 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 6:16:40pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

Hey, I’ll tweet at the President!

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It can’t hurt, eh?

Not that your tweet falls into this category by any means, but I’m wondering how many idiots are going to tweet stuff that will get them on the Secret Service’s list of “Who’s Who in American Idiots”?

RBS

39 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 6:18:47pm

Seriously - when I put together material for a post on Chuck, it makes me feel physically ill. Not exaggerating. It’s like examining the mind of a sociopathic criminal.

40 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 6:23:24pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Seriously - when I put together material for a post on Chuck, it makes me feel physically ill. Not exaggerating. It’s like examining the mind of a sociopathic criminal.

Uh, because he is a sociopathic criminal.

41 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 6:23:37pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I had lots of material for another post on the Chuck-thing today, but I just had to take a break because he’s one of the most toxic horrible people I’ve ever encountered. Hard to believe he’s built up such hatred and so many psychological problems in just 26 years on this planet.

The US right wing is creating and feeding monsters like Chuck.

I tell myself it’s like some infected pustule coming to a head. It’s getting smaller and more inflamed, and when it bursts it’s not going to be pretty, but the key word is “smaller”.

42 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:26:19pm

Somebodies came to their senses.

43 scottslemmons  May 18, 2015 6:26:22pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

I’d post about him less often. Not saying quit entirely, ‘cause you don’t clear out a roach infestation by ignoring the problem. But first, he’s already done the most damage possible to himself — he’ll never be able to get a regular job when he quits getting wingnut welfare. And second, it ain’t worth the trouble if his crap makes you feel ill. Mental wellness is a good thing to have…

44 freetoken  May 18, 2015 6:28:06pm

Itching to take his bellicosity from NJ to the world stage?

Christie calls for expansion of U.S. military presence in N.H. speech

Governor Christie called for an aggressive expansion of the United States’ intelligence operations and global military footprint on Monday, envisioning the country as a peacekeeping force containing the rising threat of China, Iran, Russia and Syria.

On a swing through New Hampshire, Christie staked out the most hawkish position of all the would-be candidates for the presidency so far, hammering everyone from President Obama to Russian President Vladimir Putin, from “civil rights extremists” concerned about electronic surveillance to Hollywood filmmakers who he said were demonizing the people keeping the country safe.

[…]

45 freetoken  May 18, 2015 6:29:09pm

Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran Hollywood ??

46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 6:29:43pm

re: #44 freetoken

Itching to take his bellicosity from NJ to the world stage?

Christie calls for expansion of U.S. military presence in N.H. speech

Shit. Bombing Iran doesn’t give them the boner it used to, so now we’ve got to confront Russia? And China?

47 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 6:30:04pm
48 #FergusonFireside  May 18, 2015 6:30:15pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Seriously - when I put together material for a post on Chuck, it makes me feel physically ill. Not exaggerating. It’s like examining the mind of a sociopathic criminal.

‘tis

49 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:30:30pm

re: #44 freetoken

Christie needs to relax.

50 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 6:32:00pm

re: #46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Shit. Bombing Iran doesn’t give them the boner it used to, so now we’ve got to confront Russia? And China?

Iran is just gateway war porn for them. They want the whole 3 way action of Russia, North Korea and China. At once.

RBS

51 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:32:12pm

I wouldn’t be suprised if Christie has a major medical incident soon.

52 #FergusonFireside  May 18, 2015 6:32:22pm

Re-watching Mad Men. :)

53 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 6:32:28pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

HAH!

54 freetoken  May 18, 2015 6:33:44pm
“The world we live in today is chaotic and dangerous not because America has been too tough but because America has been too weak,” Christie said. “If you want to be part of the civilized world, you have to act in a civilized manner.”

Besides presenting the entire population of the planet as if they were somehow totally dependent upon the US for “being civilized”, I wonder if it ever occurs to Christie to wonder how spending even more on the military, given we already outspend most of all the other nations combined, in order to threaten even more invasions, is the definition of being “civilized”?

55 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 6:34:06pm

*pokes LGF hivemind with stick*

56 prairiefire  May 18, 2015 6:34:43pm

re: #52 #FergusonFireside

Re-watching Mad Men. :)

It was fantastic.

57 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:34:48pm

re: #54 freetoken

Well, only if you think death and destruction are the necessary components of “civilization”.

58 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:35:31pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

Might as well add vegemite, too.

59 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 6:36:18pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

*pokes LGF hivemind with stick*

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Heretic!!!! Blasphemer!!!!!!

RBS

60 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 6:36:48pm

re: #59 RealityBasedSteve

Heretic!!!! Blasphemer!!!!!!

RBS

That was the reaction I was looking for!

:-D

61 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:37:39pm

The greatest pizza is in the world is the dough, the sauce and a shit ton of mozarella.

Simple. : )

62 Shiplord Kirel  May 18, 2015 6:37:53pm

re: #59 RealityBasedSteve

Heretic!!!! Blasphemer!!!!!!

RBS

Stone him!!!

(Pizza is pretty good when you’re stoned, or so I hear.)

63 De Kolta Chair  May 18, 2015 6:38:32pm

BLT

64 #FergusonFireside  May 18, 2015 6:38:47pm

re: #56 prairiefire

It was fantastic.

This is round 3!!! yes, fantastic.

4th time I only analyze the furniture & lamps.

65 b_sharp  May 18, 2015 6:39:16pm

re: #61 Justanotherhuman

The greatest pizza is in the world is the dough, the sauce and a shit ton of mozarella.

Simple. : )

Then add some ham, bacon and mushrooms.

66 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 6:39:25pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

That was the reaction I was looking for!

:-D

Of course…. any fool can see that they left off Brussel Sprouts, Potted Meat Product and Tripe.

RBS

67 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:39:43pm

re: #64 #FergusonFireside

Which was totally shit design.

68 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:40:31pm

re: #65 b_sharp

Then add some ham, bacon and mushrooms.

‘Shroom, yes. The rest, blech.

69 freetoken  May 18, 2015 6:40:42pm

re: #46 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Shit. Bombing Iran doesn’t give them the boner it used to, so now we’ve got to confront Russia? And China?

And Hollywood.

70 Dave In Austin  May 18, 2015 6:40:50pm

“Potted Meat”

Just what does that mean??

71 prairiefire  May 18, 2015 6:41:05pm

re: #52 #FergusonFireside

Re-watching Mad Men. :)

Tom and Lorenzo fabulous and opinionated has a very good recap post.

72 Targetpractice  May 18, 2015 6:41:25pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

*pokes LGF hivemind with stick*

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Those words are blasphemy!

73 A Cranky One  May 18, 2015 6:41:29pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Seriously - when I put together material for a post on Chuck, it makes me feel physically ill. Not exaggerating. It’s like examining the mind of a sociopathic criminal.

I was wondering what the “chuck-thing” was, so I made the mistake of glancing at his timeline. There was such a wide selection of slime to choose from. But I didn’t linger long enough to pick one due to the urge to vomit.

But I applaud your efforts to keep track of and publicize Upchuck’s antics. He stands out in a crowd of nutjobs and I suspect he’s a ticking time-bomb.

74 allegro  May 18, 2015 6:41:54pm

re: #52 #FergusonFireside

Re-watching Mad Men. :)

To get even more out of it, check out the archives of tomandlorenzo.com, especially their Mad Style posts. Seriously. You will be amazed.

75 b_sharp  May 18, 2015 6:42:52pm

re: #68 Justanotherhuman

‘Shroom, yes. The rest, blech.

OK, how about we compromise. Go with Canadian bacon which is a cross between ham & bacon.

76 #FergusonFireside  May 18, 2015 6:43:52pm

re: #67 Justanotherhuman

Which was totally shit design.

I love it.

77 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:44:24pm

re: #75 b_sharp

No meat! I’ll add veggies, but NO MEAT! Hahahaha.

78 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 6:44:44pm

re: #70 Dave In Austin

“Potted Meat”

Just what does that mean??

It’s not even real food….
It’s the parts that fell of the floor….
79 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:44:45pm

Holy crap, this looks unworldly.

80 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:45:11pm

re: #78 RealityBasedSteve

Tripe!

81 prairiefire  May 18, 2015 6:45:50pm

re: #70 Dave In Austin

“Potted Meat”

Just what does that mean??

Dinky More’s. Itre: #74 allegro

To get even more out of it, check out the archives of tomandlorenzo.com, especially their Mad Style posts. Seriously. You will be amazed.

They are so good. The comments are fun, as well. I’m Prairie on there.

82 allegro  May 18, 2015 6:46:20pm

re: #71 prairiefire

Tom and Lorenzo fabulous and opinionated has a very good recap post.

I’m ALWAYS late! *grumble*

83 prairiefire  May 18, 2015 6:47:30pm

re: #82 allegro

I’m ALWAYS late! *grumble*

Join the comments over there on Disquis, it’s fun.

84 b_sharp  May 18, 2015 6:48:25pm

re: #77 Justanotherhuman

No meat! I’ll add veggies, but NO MEAT! Hahahaha.

Shrooms, sun dried tomatoes, and apples.

85 freetoken  May 18, 2015 6:48:41pm

Not to be outdone today:

Republican Jeb Bush sees no constitutional right to gay marriage

Republican Jeb Bush said in a weekend radio interview that he does not believe the U.S. Constitution grants a right to gay marriage, emphasizing his support for “traditional marriage.”

Which begs the question, never asked by the likes of Bush, especially if he is on an outlet like CBN, is whether there is a “right” in the Constitution to any kind of marriage

The reason they don’t want to ask that question is because then that would take them down the path that will invalidate their claims.

Marriage is a special kind of contract created by state laws. Thus excluding one group of Americans is by default a form of active discrimination on the part of those state laws.

86 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:50:05pm

re: #84 b_sharp

No froot! Ever! : )

87 Snarknado!  May 18, 2015 6:50:30pm

re: #84 b_sharp

Shrooms, sun dried tomatoes, and apples.

Mushrooms and FRESH tomato slices. Apple slices on the side

88 b_sharp  May 18, 2015 6:50:49pm

re: #77 Justanotherhuman

No meat! I’ll add veggies, but NO MEAT! Hahahaha.

I had no idea you are a vegetablarian.

89 allegro  May 18, 2015 6:51:06pm

re: #83 prairiefire

Join the comments over there on Disquis, it’s fun.

I read them but don’t comment. Y’all are so amazing there’s nothing I could add.

90 withak  May 18, 2015 6:51:36pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

*pokes LGF hivemind with stick*

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Ugh. I hate agreeing with @Nero on anything, even something as inane as pizza toppings.

Strike sweetcorn and marmite and replace with green chile and salami.

91 Snarknado!  May 18, 2015 6:51:59pm

re: #86 Justanotherhuman

No froot! Ever! : )

Uhhh, tomato is a fruit.

92 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 6:52:50pm

re: #91 Snarknado!

Uhhh, tomato is a fruit.

It gets a special dispensation.

RBS

93 freetoken  May 18, 2015 6:54:07pm

re: #92 RealityBasedSteve

Peppers (capsicum) are also fruit.

94 Mattand  May 18, 2015 6:55:12pm

re: #44 freetoken

Itching to take his bellicosity from NJ to the world stage?

Christie calls for expansion of U.S. military presence in N.H. speech

Oh, my wacky Governor! Such an adorable pander bear!

Looks like the great Sucking Up to Whack Jobs has begun. I’m half expecting him to start trashing the Muslim judge he appointed a few years ago.

95 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:55:14pm

re: #88 b_sharp

I do eat birds and fish. : O

96 A Cranky One  May 18, 2015 6:56:00pm

re: #93 freetoken

Peppers (capsicum) are also fruit.

Watch out where the huskies go, and
don’t you eat that yellow fruit on pizza

97 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 6:56:48pm

re: #95 Justanotherhuman

I do eat birds and fish. : O

What about flying fish?

RBS

98 Snarknado!  May 18, 2015 6:57:59pm

re: #93 freetoken

Peppers (capsicum) are also fruit.

Evil fruit.

99 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 6:58:31pm

I still say: Dough, sauce and a shit ton of mozarella is the best.

Add to your own taste. However low that is : )

100 Romantic Heretic  May 18, 2015 6:58:48pm

re: #72 Targetpractice

Those words are blasphemy!

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Video

101 b_sharp  May 18, 2015 7:01:08pm

re: #95 Justanotherhuman

I do eat birds and fish. : O

Perhaps we should add crow to our pizza?

102 #FergusonFireside  May 18, 2015 7:01:46pm

re: #89 allegro

I read them but don’t comment. Y’all are so amazing there’s nothing I could add.

There’s 1143 comments!!!!!!!

I’ve gone to Tom & Lorenzo before but just for the eye candy. I had no idea.

(diving in tomorrow)

103 stpaulbear  May 18, 2015 7:01:50pm
104 Kragar  May 18, 2015 7:06:02pm
105 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 7:06:08pm

re: #103 stpaulbear

So is ketchup!

106 Justanotherhuman  May 18, 2015 7:09:36pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calm…

107 TedStriker  May 18, 2015 7:09:37pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Seriously - when I put together material for a post on Chuck, it makes me feel physically ill. Not exaggerating. It’s like examining the mind of a sociopathic criminal.

It’s like you’re Agent Clarice Starling to Chuck’s Buffalo Bill.

108 Kragar  May 18, 2015 7:12:14pm
109 Kragar  May 18, 2015 7:12:53pm
110 Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2015 7:13:44pm

re: #108 Kragar

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Given their penchant for holding diametrically opposed positions, I’m not sure that requires 2 wingnuts.

111 ObserverArt  May 18, 2015 7:17:15pm

Pizza?

I always liked traditional toppings. Pepperoni, spicy/hot Italian sausage, lots of banana peppers. Nice and hot oven to crisp everything just a little bit.

But I’d try just about anything, because it’s pizza!

112 Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2015 7:17:32pm

Travelling for work isn’t a lot of fun, especially if you end up working harder at your destination than you do at work proper.

But there are compensations. Tonight’s was in the form of Crab cakes. Not the crab cakes of my youth, with a few threads of crab in a ball of breadcrumbs. No, REAL crab cakes. All lump meat. Just enough filler to keep it in one piece - barely! Fissures forming on top as the structural integrity is compromised by the lack of breadcrumbs…

I REGRET NOTHING!

113 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 7:18:41pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

*pokes LGF hivemind with stick*

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Mmmm…Marmite…

114 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 7:21:36pm

re: #78 RealityBasedSteve

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Potted Meat:

“Enjoy what’s left of the corpses.”

115 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 7:26:20pm

re: #114 austin_blue

Potted Meat:

“Enjoy what’s left of the corpses.”

“My favorite is ‘Luncheon Meat’. ‘It was dark, we didn’t get a good look at it, we just loaded it onto the back of the truck. You should eat it around noon—that’s about all we know.’ “

—Jerry Seinfeld

116 Kragar  May 18, 2015 7:28:17pm

re: #114 austin_blue

“Do you want red lumps in brown sauce or brown lumps in red sauce?”

117 #FergusonFireside  May 18, 2015 7:29:10pm

I went on the most crazy bachelorette weekend. I don’t think I mentioned it. I might have.

The females were all in their mid 30’s and wilder than fuck.

This song I had to look up, because it played, and I CANNOT get it out of my head.

Big Sean.

118 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 7:30:54pm

re: #115 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“My favorite is ‘Luncheon Meat’. ‘It was dark, we didn’t get a good look at it, we just loaded it onto the back of the truck. You should eat it around noon—that’s about all we know.’ “

—Jerry Seinfeld

Actually, luncheon meat wasn’t The Rest of the Corpse. It was usually formed ham (precursor to “chicken nuggets”), sliced thin.

Jerry got off easy.

Potted meat, cheap deviled ham and cheap Vie-enners?

{{shudder}}

119 Lidane  May 18, 2015 7:31:32pm

re: #113 austin_blue

Mmmm…Marmite…

Never had Marmite.

OTOH, I will admit to liking Vegemite. A thin layer on toast topped with sliced apples and cheese is a tasty snack.

120 #FergusonFireside  May 18, 2015 7:33:22pm

re: #113 austin_blue

Mmmm…Marmite…

My Mom lives on Marmite.

121 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 18, 2015 7:33:39pm

re: #118 austin_blue

Actually, luncheon meat wasn’t The Rest of the Corpse. It was usually formed ham (precursor to “chicken nuggets”), sliced thin.

Jerry got of easy.

Potted meat, cheap deviled ham and cheap Vie-enners?

{{shudder}}

DAK or Plumrose deviled ham was the worst. Denmark is the only country in the world with more pigs than people, and all they have to feed them is fish meal. Their deviled ham tasted like tuna.

122 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 7:36:05pm

re: #119 Lidane

Never had Marmite.

OTOH, I will admit to liking Vegemite. A thin layer on toast topped with sliced apples and cheese is a tasty snack.

Same thingie- cultured yeast protein. One English, one from Oz. Anathema on pizza, of course.

As is fucking pineapple goddammit, you evil polluters of all that is good and righteous.

123 Lidane  May 18, 2015 7:36:18pm

re: #109 Kragar

124 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 7:38:22pm

re: #121 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

DAK or Plumrose deviled ham was the worst. Denmark is the only country in the world with more pigs than people, and all they have to feed them is fish meal. Their deviled ham tasted like tuna.

Fish marinated pig guts will do that.

(Let’s all wander off and have a quiet, personal puke, shall we?)

125 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 7:38:31pm

re: #122 austin_blue

Same thingie- cultured yeast protein. One English, one from Oz. Anathema on pizza, of course.

As is fucking pineapple goddammit, you evil polluters of all that is good and righteous.

And don’t even get me going on “Crustless 0-Carb Pizza”. That is an abomination and is detested.

RBS

126 Kragar  May 18, 2015 7:39:16pm
127 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 7:40:12pm

re: #125 RealityBasedSteve

And don’t even get me going on “Crustless 0-Carb Pizza”. That is an abomination and is detested.

RBS

Hey! That’s in Leviticus! An Abomination Unto The Lord!

128 Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2015 7:42:07pm

re: #124 austin_blue

Fish marinated pig guts will do that.

(Let’s all wander off and have a quiet, personal puke, shall we?)

Every time I hear about pig farming, I can’t help thinking of the scene in Snatch, where Bricktop interrupts a group of idiots trying to shift a corpse…

“You’re always gonna have a problem trying to move a body in one piece…”

129 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 7:42:56pm

re: #127 austin_blue

Hey! That’s in Leviticus! An Abomination Unto The Lord!

Another abomination is “Fat-Free Sour Cream”. I picked it up one time by mistake shopping when I didn’t pay attention to the labels. Got it home, opened it, and it looked exactly like vinyl spackling compound. Same super smooth shiny texture. Figured “Well, it can’t be that THAT bad, I’ll just put some on my potato anyhow”. Yea, it was worse.

RBS

130 Lidane  May 18, 2015 7:44:28pm

re: #122 austin_blue

Same thingie- cultured yeast protein. One English, one from Oz. Anathema on pizza, of course.

As is fucking pineapple goddammit, you evil polluters of all that is good and righteous.

I’m enough of a godless heathen to enjoy Hawaiian pizza from time to time, but my go to pizza is either the margherita or a Duval (sausage, onions, shrooms, and black olives) from East Side Pies. Or anything from Hoeks.

131 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 7:44:53pm
132 Kragar  May 18, 2015 7:53:48pm

So my brother got to interview Hugh Keays-Byrne about his role as Immortan Joe.

The kicker: He did the interview in character as Immortan Joe

Exclusive Interview: ‘Mad Max’ Villain The Immortan Joe

133 makeitstop  May 18, 2015 7:57:42pm

re: #115 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“My favorite is ‘Luncheon Meat’. ‘It was dark, we didn’t get a good look at it, we just loaded it onto the back of the truck. You should eat it around noon—that’s about all we know.’ “

—Jerry Seinfeld

In my starving musician days, we used to refer to it as ‘remainder loaf.’

134 TedStriker  May 18, 2015 7:58:50pm

re: #132 Kragar

So my brother got to interview Hugh Keays-Byrne about his role as Immortan Joe.

The kicker: He did the interview in character as Immortan Joe

Exclusive Interview: ‘Mad Max’ Villain The Immortan Joe

Hell yeah!

Congrats on your brother scoring such a high-profile interview.

135 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 7:59:13pm
136 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 18, 2015 7:59:23pm

re: #131 Charles Johnson

CCJ has been so busy sliming Twitter that his blog has lay fallow for almost a week.

137 Belafon  May 18, 2015 8:01:23pm

My middle son relating a story from his bus ride home (a paraphrase obviously):

The two guys in front of me are talking religion and the subject turns to Armageddon. One of them turns to me and asks which side I’d be on. I reply “I’d be on the side with the cutest mascot. And with a giant hound with nine heads, I’d probably choose Hell.” The kid who was Muslim and is now Christian laughs. The other kid, whose been a Christian all his life, just stares at me.

138 Charles Johnson  May 18, 2015 8:04:04pm

re: #136 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

CCJ has been so busy sliming Twitter that his blog has lay fallow for a week.

Yep. If he isn’t smearing someone he has nothing to say. The stuff he posts on Twitter is just stream-of-consciousness hatred.

139 Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2015 8:05:49pm

re: #136 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

CCJ has been so busy sliming Twitter that his blog has lay fallow for almost a week.

I hear a lot of folks in California’s farm country are having to fallow their fields to save water. Maybe he’s doing a public service….

140 makeitstop  May 18, 2015 8:06:02pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Yep. If he isn’t smearing someone he has nothing to say. The stuff he posts on Twitter is just stream-of-consciousness hatred.

Or stream of semi-consciousness, depending on what time of day it is.

141 Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2015 8:06:28pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Yep. If he isn’t smearing someone he has nothing to say. The stuff he posts on Twitter is just stream-of-consciousness hatred.

Saves having to write in complete sentences.

142 Kragar  May 18, 2015 8:06:36pm
143 Belafon  May 18, 2015 8:11:41pm

re: #142 Kragar

“I apologize for not running in 2000. I thought, at 39, that I was too young. I now see that I shouldn’t have let that deter me.”

144 Kragar  May 18, 2015 8:12:49pm
145 Blind Frog Belly White  May 18, 2015 8:13:33pm

re: #142 Kragar

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Shit, seriously? I thought we left because the government we set up and called sovereign didn’t want them there. Were we to ignore their wishes?

You know who ELSE left his troops in countries that didn’t want them…?

146 Kragar  May 18, 2015 8:14:57pm
147 #FergusonFireside  May 18, 2015 8:24:51pm

re: #146 Kragar

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Very nice.

148 Khal Wimpo  May 18, 2015 8:29:55pm

re: #139 Blind Frog Belly White

I hear a lot of folks in California’s farm country are having to fallow their fields to save water. Maybe he’s doing a public service….

Sadly, the intellectual fields that CCJ plows are the kinds of places that Stephen King wrote about in his Gunslinger series. Twisted, evil places where only fetid, toxic plants grow. The kinds of places that breed cannibalistic mutant hordes and screaming death-cultists.

You know. Your average NRA convention.

149 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2015 8:30:42pm

re: #145 Blind Frog Belly White

Shit, seriously? I thought we left because the government we set up and called sovereign didn’t want them there. Were we to ignore their wishes?

You know who ELSE left his troops in countries that didn’t want them…?

It’s far more complicated than Sean Hannity lets one, and we can discuss the complexity if you wish. However, I think we can all agree that Mr. Hannity should take a long walk off a short pier.

150 makeitstop  May 18, 2015 8:33:01pm

re: #145 Blind Frog Belly White

Shit, seriously? I thought we left because the government we set up and called sovereign didn’t want them there. Were we to ignore their wishes?

You know who ELSE left his troops in countries that didn’t want them…?

That was a big talking point on Facebook this morning.

Talk about a hive mind. They all yammer about the same thing - today it was ‘abandoning Iraq’ - until some pinhead like Hannity gives them another chunk of rancid meat to chew on.

151 TedStriker  May 18, 2015 8:34:33pm

re: #146 Kragar

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And, as expected, the bigots are not too happy:

152 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 8:35:36pm

Hey, I’m going to do something I don’t think I’ve done for a while, actually comment on the post I’m commenting at. Huh.

When Obama leaves office, he can change his current handle (@POTUS) or just hand the account off to his predecessor. I suspect the latter as he already has an account with his own name as the handle (@BarackObama). That account was a great campaign vehicle and now serves as propaganda from White House staffers. Once Obama leaves office, I’m sure he’ll just take that account and call it his own.

Does that answer your stupid question, Dana?

153 CleverToad  May 18, 2015 8:36:04pm

Not on the Twitter, but hope the Lizards that are will pass along the best ones from @Potus. Love this Prez when he’s on a (t)roll.

Sulking off to bed now. Onna diet. Can’t have any pizza, with or without pineapple, and you folks are making me hungry!

154 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 8:37:41pm

re: #153 CleverToad

All over it!

155 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 8:49:41pm

I have to hand it to the guy. Second tweet ever on the @POTUS account.

156 Belafon  May 18, 2015 8:50:25pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

“It stays with the office. Just like the title ‘Dana Loesch,’ short for village Idiot, will pass on when you retire.”

157 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 8:54:16pm

re: #135 teleskiguy

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We are twin sons of a different mother. Did I mention my Da is from Denver and my earliest skiing experience was at A-basin when I was seven and there were T-bars and rope lifts? As dangerous going up as down…

158 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 8:54:23pm

White House humor.

159 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2015 8:55:39pm

All due respect to Jane’s but the following headline pretty much requires the response I had for it:

Fall of Ramadi increases terrorism risks in Karbala and Baghdad and erodes domestic confidence in Iraqi government

160 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 8:58:14pm

re: #142 Kragar

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People who haven’t advanced past high school should not be asking questions like that.

161 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 9:00:42pm

re: #157 austin_blue

We are twin sons of a different mother. Did I mention my Da is from Denver and my earliest skiing experience was at A-basin when I was seven and there were T-bars and rope lifts? As dangerous going up as down…

Hell yeah! I just found out very recently that my mother’s first skiing experience was at A-Basin in 1978 before she met my dad. An enterprising gal-friend took her and four other gals up to the ski area, got everybody equipment (mom says all she had to buy that day was a lift ticket and some beer, lunch and gear was paid for by the enterprising friend) and took everybody up the Molly Hogan lift (the bunny hill at A-Bay). Mom says it was a shitshow with endless laughs.

And look at her son, descending shit like this at A-Basin.

162 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 9:01:32pm

re: #145 Blind Frog Belly White

Shit, seriously? I thought we left because the government we set up and called sovereign didn’t want them there. Were we to ignore their wishes?

You know who ELSE left his troops in countries that didn’t want them…?

Bush signed the Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq before he left office. Obama kept the schedule. These second-guessers are just ignorant fucks.

163 Amory Blaine  May 18, 2015 9:04:23pm

Lying, entitled fucks say what?

Manpower says skill shortage continues
One in three U.S. employers reports having trouble finding qualified workers

One in three U.S. employers is having trouble filling job vacancies because it cannot find qualified candidates, according to survey findings released Monday by ManpowerGroup Inc.

The top-rated “most in demand” occupation for 2015 was listed as “skilled trade workers,” the poll found, echoing a refrain heard often in the industrial Midwest.

Milwaukee-based Manpower, one of the world’s largest staffing companies, has conducted the annual “talent shortage survey” for the past 10 years, a period long enough to include a global recession and constant technology and economic shifts, Manpower Chief Executive Jonas Prising said in a video that accompanied the survey findings.

In that decade, “the one constant is that talent shortages continue unabated,” Prising said.

164 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 9:06:55pm
165 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 9:08:10pm

re: #148 Khal Wimpo

Sadly, the intellectual fields that CCJ plows are the kinds of places that Stephen King wrote about in his Gunslinger series. Twisted, evil places where only fetid, toxic plants grow. The kinds of places that breed cannibalistic mutant hordes and screaming death-cultists.

You know. Your average NRA convention.

Gonna be tough to explain Waco.

Those fuckers exercised the *shit* out of their Second Amendment Rights.

They were all white folks with guns, and it went tits up. In a suburban shopping center.

*Now* let’s hear about reasonable regulation of firearms!

From the NRA and the State of Texas? <crickets>

166 retired cynic  May 18, 2015 9:09:25pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

What beautiful people. ///

167 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2015 9:10:03pm

re: #162 austin_blue

Bush signed the Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq before he left office. Obama kept the schedule. These second-guessers are just ignorant fucks.

I think there’s legitimate criticism to be made against Obama’s actions concerning Iraq, but its hard to make it when Hannity is DERPing out his lies. So said criticism will have to wait for another night, both because Hannity’s stream of burning stupid and because I’m just plain tired. For now, I’ll just note that Hannity would attack Obama over Iraq whatever the president has done or will do. Hannity is just playing to a hater peanut gallery and should be considered to be beclowning himself every time he lambasts Barack Obama about Iraq.

168 Dark_Falcon  May 18, 2015 9:10:55pm
169 CriticalDragon1177  May 18, 2015 9:13:39pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

It’s very easy to create a fake tweet, using the Safari (or Chrome) Web Inspector to edit the HTML:

That’s actually hilarious! Its a wonderful way to mock the birther idiots, since everyone knows Cthulhu isn’t real. Its obviously a fake tweet by the way, since it far exceeds twitter’s one hundred forty character limit.

170 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 9:15:54pm

re: #169 CriticalDragon1177

That’s actually hilarious! Its a wonderful way to mock the birther idiots, since everyone knows Cthulhu isn’t real. Its obviously a fake tweet by the way, since it far exceeds twitter’s one hundred forty character limit.

I saw it and shared it immediately.

171 Amory Blaine  May 18, 2015 9:16:19pm

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

The skills shortage is a lie. So any one who claims that is a liar.

172 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 9:17:21pm

re: #161 teleskiguy

Hell yeah! I just found out very recently that my mother’s first skiing experience was at A-Basin in 1978 before she met my dad. An enterprising gal-friend took her and four other gals up to the ski area, got everybody equipment (mom says all she had to buy that day was a lift ticket and some beer, lunch and gear was paid for by the enterprising friend) and took everybody up the Molly Hogan lift (the bunny hill at A-Bay). Mom says it was a shitshow with endless laughs.

And look at her son, descending shit like this at A-Basin.

My first trip up that mountain was in ‘63.

Old, I tell you. Old.

And let’s get not into the buried branch at Telluride under a foot of fresh powder that caught my left tip and did a number on my ankle (ligaments, broken fibula) when I was 13.

It’s a lovely world, but fraught with danger, especially when it looks as pristine as heaven.

173 freetoken  May 18, 2015 9:19:58pm

re: #163 Amory Blaine

In that decade, “the one constant is that talent shortages continue unabated,” Prising said.

Economics would lead us to believe that if the price of “talent” was raised more talent would be produced.

Oh… that’s right… the companies don’t want to pay more for skilled labor.

Who could have thought that supply-and-demand would apply to labor?

174 goddamnedfrank  May 18, 2015 9:20:23pm
My first question to Cogman was what would he say to fans who ask: “How could you do this to Sansa?”

Cogman seemed to take this question very seriously and took a moment to consider his response. “This is Game of Thrones,” he said soberly. “This isn’t a timid little girl walking into a wedding night with Joffrey. This is a hardened woman making a choice, and she sees this as the way to get back her homeland.”

I have to wonder if Cogman is even watching his own show. Sansa is almost literally flotsam, the character I see depicted on screen has been afforded almost zero agency over her own course in life, a perpetual pawn in other people’s schemes. There is no choice at all. I’m starting to think the show runners might just be huge assholes.

175 freetoken  May 18, 2015 9:21:24pm

re: #171 Amory Blaine

The skills shortage is a lie. So any one who claims that is a liar.

What there is a shortage of is people who will work for no money.

176 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 9:22:41pm

re: #172 austin_blue

My first trip up that mountain was in ‘63.

Old, I tell you. Old.

And let’s get not into the buried branch at Telluride under a foot of fresh powder that caught my left tip and did a number on my ankle (ligaments, broken fibula) when I was 13.

It’s a lovely world, but fraught with danger, especially when it looks as pristine as heaven.

Man, I can only imagine the rickety seven-foot-long planks with cables holding you in that you were wearing when you hurt yourself when you were 13.

I’m a telemark skier, and even in my lifetime - hell, the last 15 years! - the gear has caught up. I mean, check out my binders!

177 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 9:22:45pm

re: #173 freetoken

Economics would lead us to believe that if the price of “talent” was raised more talent would be produced.

Oh… that’s right… the companies don’t want to pay more for skilled labor.

Who could have thought that supply-and-demand would apply to labor?

Goddam, that is exactly spot on. I’ll give a forelock pull, a spin, and a double snap for that comment.

178 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 9:29:54pm

re: #176 teleskiguy

Man, I can only imagine the rickety seven-foot-long planks with cables holding you in that you were wearing when you hurt yourself when you were 13.

I’m a telemark skier, and even in my lifetime - hell, the last 15 years! - the gear has caught up. I mean, check out my binders!

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Rotomats. The leg breakers of the late 60’s. The fucking ski snapped but the binder didn’t pop. When you look down at your leg and your left foot is at a 120 degree angle to the left, you know something is seriously wrong.

179 CuriousLurker  May 18, 2015 9:30:09pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

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Lovely bunch. There are are 50+ larger individual mug shots here. The Mexican Jesus guy has such an innocent face (which I’m sure is deceptive). But, hey, at least there’s one woman in there! // 2nd row, 4th from left

180 freetoken  May 18, 2015 9:32:27pm

There is an underlying reality, though, which is avoided in most of these discussions about wages and labor and such.

It is this - as long as the society demands cheaper stuff, and by “cheaper” I mean both in price and in quality, then the end results of this is a cheaper view of labor also.

You can spend $1 per burger at some fast food places on promotion, and the poor slobs there will never get more than minimum wage.

Or, you could pay $10 per burger at your local mid-high end restaurant, and the servers probably pull in more in tips than salary, and at least the senior chefs make an ok wage (even though they will never get rich.) But the burger will in almost all cases be much better than the fast-food place.

So what kind of person are you: $1 burger, or $10 burger?

The point I am trying to make, awkwardly, is that quality costs because it takes investments in skill (and equipment, etc.)

Do you want to fill your life with quality or cheapness?

181 Lidane  May 18, 2015 9:33:27pm

re: #165 austin_blue

Gonna be tough to explain Waco.

Those fuckers exercised the *shit* out of their Second Amendment Rights.

They were all white folks with guns, and it went tits up. In a suburban shopping center.

*Now* let’s hear about reasonable regulation of firearms!

From the NRA and the State of Texas? <crickets>

Abbott and the rest of the GOP dopes are going to use Waco as a reason to pass open carry.

You know, because civilians with guns could have stopped an ongoing gang war between clubs that have been actively trying to kill each other for decades.

182 CuriousLurker  May 18, 2015 9:34:18pm

re: #176 teleskiguy

BTW, I thought of you recently while watching a documentary about Siberian trappers who live out in the middle of nowhere and rough it for a good part of the year. It made me think of you because one guy was showing how he makes his own skis. They were pretty primitive, but the worked!

Makes me look at my Russian sable paintbrushes in a whole new light too…

183 GlutenFreeJesus  May 18, 2015 9:37:48pm

Oh it would make me so happy to find out next year that the POTUS Twitter page is just the DNC collecting political ads for the 2016 campaign.

“Want to vote Republican? Then you support this: Vile and racist tweets fade in and out on millions upon millions of TV screens”

184 Amory Blaine  May 18, 2015 9:38:58pm

re: #180 freetoken

That’s right. The low prices are raising my taxes while the ruling class profit enormously. Take the skills shortage argument. Schools are funded with property taxes. I am funding your employees skill level. Not you. You want trained workers? You aren’t entitled to them. Put on your fucking big boy pants and get to fucking work training them.

185 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 9:43:49pm

re: #181 Lidane

Abbott and the rest of the GOP dopes are going to use Waco as a reason to pass open carry.

You know, because civilians with guns could have stopped an ongoing gang war between clubs that have been actively trying to kill each other for decades.

I want to know what happens if it turns out that, because the Waco PD has admitted that their SWAT team had been given a “green light” to fire, if all of the dead were hit by .223 rounds.

That’s not likely, but…

186 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 9:46:26pm

re: #180 freetoken

There is an underlying reality, though, which is avoided in most of these discussions about wages and labor and such.

It is this - as long as the society demands cheaper stuff, and by “cheaper” I mean both in price and in quality, then the end results of this is a cheaper view of labor also.

You can spend $1 per burger at some fast food places on promotion, and the poor slobs there will never get more than minimum wage.

Or, you could pay $10 per burger at your local mid-high end restaurant, and the servers probably pull in more in tips than salary, and at least the senior chefs make an ok wage (even though they will never get rich.) But the burger will in almost all cases be much better than the fast-food place.

So what kind of person are you: $1 burger, or $10 burger?

The point I am trying to make, awkwardly, is that quality costs because it takes investments in skill (and equipment, etc.)

Do you want to fill your life with quality or cheapness?

I want a quality $3 burger made by someone who is making a living wage. There has to be a price point where we aren’t forcing people to eat cat food. I know, capitalism…

187 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 18, 2015 9:48:14pm

re: #184 Amory Blaine

That’s right. The low prices are raising my taxes while the ruling class profit enormously. Take the skills shortage argument. Schools are funded with property taxes. I am funding your employees skill level. Not you. You want trained workers? You aren’t entitled to them. Put on your fucking big boy pants and get to fucking work training them.

What kind of skills are they lacking, I wonder? Are we talking IT, management, office work, CAD, engineer or machine operator?

And, I wonder if this “skills shortage” is not national, but only regional. In other words, there are suitably qualified workers, but not close to the employer, and management doesn’t want to spend the money to lure those people to relocate.

188 Amory Blaine  May 18, 2015 9:49:30pm

Thing is, the 10 burger place isn’t paying any more money than the 1 dollar place. A waitress making tips is moot because I’m paying extra, on top of the 10 dollars so her family can eat.

189 Amory Blaine  May 18, 2015 9:54:05pm

re: #187 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The study claims 1 in three employers. That suggests nationally.

190 SteelPH  May 18, 2015 9:54:20pm

:D

191 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 9:54:30pm

re: #182 CuriousLurker

BTW, I thought of you recently while watching a documentary about Siberian trappers who live out in the middle of nowhere and rough it for a good part of the year. It made me think of you because one guy was showing how he makes his own skis. They were pretty primitive, but the worked!

Makes me look at my Russian sable paintbrushes in a whole new light too…

CuriousLurker, you’re sweet. <3 I remember you sharing a link with me not too long ago about outlaw ski schools in the mountains of Islamist societies.

Speaking of those Siberian trappers, they remind me of these guys.

192 Amory Blaine  May 18, 2015 9:56:07pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

Looks like C. Everett Koop.

193 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 9:56:28pm

re: #187 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

What kind of skills are they lacking, I wonder? Are we talking IT, management, office work, CAD, engineer or machine operator?

And, I wonder if this “skills shortage” is not national, but only regional. In other words, there are suitably qualified workers, but not close to the employer, and management doesn’t want to spend the money to lure those people to relocate.

Blue skying, here, but we don’t have a formal dual track system like they have in Europe, where kids are divided into Trades and University at 16. Those who go into trades can be anything from Mercedes mechanics to machine tool operators, carpenters, electricians, or plumbers. All well paying jobs.

Oh, wait, we don’t have an apprentice, journeyman, and master Union System here anymore because we are Right to Work for Less states.

Nevermind.

194 CuriousLurker  May 18, 2015 9:58:01pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

Oh hey, check it out! I found the clip of the ski making part on YouTube:

195 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 9:58:30pm

re: #190 SteelPH

Do you think I’ll end up on some watch list? This was my first tweet to @POTUS: #170

196 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 10:00:17pm

re: #192 Amory Blaine

Looks like C. Everett Koop.

197 austin_blue  May 18, 2015 10:16:49pm

Okay, my carriage has turned into a pumpkin and it’s time for the rack. Good night, all. Sweet scaly dreams.

198 RealityBasedSteve  May 18, 2015 10:18:30pm

Well, I’m off to bed. Working in the shop, and I’ve got a regulator on the repair bench that is obstinately refusing to play nice and work right. There are 1 or 2 things left that might fix the problem, but I’ve just about used up all my knowledge on it.

I’ll get the shop owner to look at it, he’s very familiar with that particular model, he may have some ideas.

Be good and remember, don’t try this at home.

RBS

199 Kragar  May 18, 2015 10:21:12pm
200 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 10:51:10pm

re: #62 Shiplord Kirel

Stone him!!!

(Pizza is pretty good when you’re stoned, or so I hear.)

Yes.

201 Amory Blaine  May 18, 2015 11:02:00pm
202 freetoken  May 18, 2015 11:37:01pm

I see the hubris over an impending decision in a GAY CAKE!! case is building again.

This will be never ending.

203 freetoken  May 18, 2015 11:39:02pm
204 teleskiguy  May 18, 2015 11:55:37pm

re: #203 freetoken

I wish I knew what the singers are singing. So beautiful!

205 freetoken  May 19, 2015 12:07:11am

re: #204 teleskiguy

imslp.org

206 teleskiguy  May 19, 2015 12:07:24am

Rock ‘n’ roll junkies…

Listen to the last few minutes of this! Rock ‘n’ Roll Cacophony. On a pretty grand scale, I’d would say!

MP3 Audio

207 freetoken  May 19, 2015 12:08:58am

re: #204 teleskiguy

208 teleskiguy  May 19, 2015 12:33:27am

re: #207 freetoken

freetoken, resident LGF polymath.

209 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2015 12:33:48am

Billionaire hedge-fund manager says Uber told him it might cut driver pay ‘because we can’

According to Novogratz, Callinicos said that, right now, Uber drivers return between 20% and 25% of the fare they collect, but that in the future, Uber could easily raise that rate to between 25% and 30%. This would drastically improve Uber’s profit margin, Novogratz recalls Callinicos saying.

Novogratz said this answer prompted him to ask a “cheeky question.”

“‘You’ve got happy employees, you’ve got happy customers, you’ve got happy shareholders. The holy triumvirate are all really excited about your company. Why are you going to risk that and push the employees salary down 5%?’”

Callinicos simply responded “because we can.”

210 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 2:20:38am

re: #209 Amory Blaine

Asshole company from the beginnning.

211 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 2:27:29am

re: #210 Justanotherhuman

Asshole company from the beginnning.

At some point the uber drivers will organize. because they can…

212 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 2:30:55am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

At some point, Uber will no longer need drivers because they’re partnering with Carnegie Mellon Institute to develop an automated car. This is the ultimate goal of these libertarian asswipes.

blog.uber.com

213 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 2:38:45am

re: #212 Justanotherhuman

At some point, Uber will no longer need drivers because they’re partnering with Carnegie Mellon Institute to develop an automated car. This is the ultimate goal of these libertarian asswipes.

blog.uber.com

at some point, automated cars will become commonplace and driver/chauffeur will become another antiquated profession, like lamp-lighter or journalist.

214 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2015 2:41:25am

re: #212 Justanotherhuman

I’m thinking the ultimate goal is to get rid of truckers. They use cute little cars to get the masses on board with the tech, but my guess is in the near future there will be convoys of headless trucks being “shepherded” by a single driver.

215 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 2:50:46am

What are the technocrats going to do when the idled masses rise up and smash their machines? Don’t get me wrong, technology can be beneficial when applied for the right reasons, not simply for increasing wealth for a favored class of people.

But it won’t happen because the idled masses will be too weak, too poor, too backwards to do anything but accept their fate—lifelong deprivation and early death. I think we’re already seeing the beginning of this, as people fight over minimum wage jobs, the only jobs available to them.

The technocrats will have no one to sell anything to, as well, except to themselves and those who curry their favor successfully.

216 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 2:52:55am

re: #214 Amory Blaine

“Driverless” trucks are already being tested (as I heard on NPR last week), but there is someone on board in case of tech failure. They’re using less traveled, long stretches of road in lightly populated areas. I’ll try to see if I can find something on this

217 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 2:54:46am

Here’s the first licensed “driverless” truck, operating in Nevada.

vox.com

218 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2015 3:00:07am

re: #217 Justanotherhuman

Yep, it will lower the cost of your toaster or whatever a token amount, but boost profits for the owners sky high.

Like when they moved manufacturing over to China.

219 Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2015 3:10:27am

re: #218 Amory Blaine

Yep, it will lower the cost of your toaster or whatever a token amount, but boost profits for the owners sky high.

Like when they moved manufacturing over to China.

Which worked as long as the customers had credit to take up the slack in wages.

That credit is running out.

220 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 3:17:25am

re: #219 Romantic Heretic

Which is what happened to me 20 yrs ago. I wound up w/$18K in debt on 2 cards, using them to pay my mortgage and other expenses when unemployment ran out and I was in such a depressed state I couldn’t muster up enough enthusiasm to do a decent job interview with bottom feeder lawyers.

It was hell. I lost everything I had worked for in my 50s, except the people I really love, and I’m a happier person now.
: )

221 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 3:27:54am

Ha! This wasn’t even a wedding cake, just a pro-gay marriage slogan.

Live updates gay cake row: Ashers bakery guilty of discrimination against gay man - £500 damages awarded

Updates from court as verdict delivered on high-profile legal action on a baker’s refusal to make a cake bearing a pro-gay marriage slogan

belfasttelegraph.co.uk

222 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 3:39:08am

re: #218 Amory Blaine

Yep, it will lower the cost of your toaster or whatever a token amount, but boost profits for the owners sky high.

Like when they moved manufacturing over to China.

On one hand, I guess its okay if we compete on wages, it forces us to be more productive.

But we are not just competing on wages, they can undercut us on overall prices because they have negligible costs for worker safety or environmental protection.

So we are not only shooting ourselves in the foot, we are doing nothing to encourage these countries to clean up their act.

223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 3:41:28am

re: #221 Justanotherhuman

Ha! This wasn’t even a wedding cake, just a pro-gay marriage slogan.

Live updates gay cake row: Ashers bakery guilty of discrimination against gay man - £500 damages awarded

Updates from court as verdict delivered on high-profile legal action on a baker’s refusal to make a cake bearing a pro-gay marriage slogan

belfasttelegraph.co.uk

If a baker is going to have a problem with gay slogans, they can simply not offer customized cakes with lettering on them, or offer only a limited range of fixed logos or decorations.

224 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 3:41:31am

An informant’s life inside US biker gangs

The recent gun battle in Texas has put a spotlight on violent biker gangs in the US. Charles Falco is a former government informant who has infiltrated some of America’s most notorious biker gangs and now lives in hiding. He shared what it is like inside some of these deadly gangs and what spurred Sunday’s violence.

bbc.com

225 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 3:46:37am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

What the judge ruled:

“She said: “The defendants are not a religious organisation. They conduct a business for profit. I believe the defendants did have the knowledge that the plaintiff was gay.

“As much as I acknowledge their religious beliefs this is a business to provide service to all. The law says they must do that.

“The defendants are not a religious organisation. They are a business for profit. There are no exceptions available.”

And the cake was paid for in advance. Before, I imagine, the bakery decided to make it a test case and defend its actions.

226 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2015 4:03:47am

re: #215 Justanotherhuman

What are the technocrats going to do when the idled masses rise up and smash their machines? Don’t get me wrong, technology can be beneficial when applied for the right reasons, not simply for increasing wealth for a favored class of people.

In that sort of scenario, they simply use armed machines to blow the masses away. Equip a robot with a 6-tube cluster of Metal Storm* 40mm grenade launchers, each one carrying 3 rounds loaded buckshot and it could slaughter
a crowd wholesale.

Note, I’m not saying I approve, or even that I think your scenario is likely. I’m saying what I think the response would be.

227 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2015 4:07:15am

re: #225 Justanotherhuman

What the judge ruled:

“She said: “The defendants are not a religious organisation. They conduct a business for profit. I believe the defendants did have the knowledge that the plaintiff was gay.

“As much as I acknowledge their religious beliefs this is a business to provide service to all. The law says they must do that.

“The defendants are not a religious organisation. They are a business for profit. There are no exceptions available.”

And the cake was paid for in advance. Before, I imagine, the bakery decided to make it a test case and defend its actions.

Still, 500 pounds is a nominal fine and social-conservative organizations will likely pay it for the bakers.

228 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 4:15:09am

re: #227 Dark_Falcon

Still, 500 pounds is a nominal fine and social-conservative organizations will likely pay it for the bakers.

Maybe the judge is saying, “We will let you get away with this kind of shenanigans this one time. Try it again, and the Bench will not be amused.”

229 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2015 4:18:53am

re: #228 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Maybe the judge is saying, “We will let you get away with this kind of shenanigans this one time. Try it again, and the Bench will not be amused.”

I hope that works better across the pond than here, but it probably will. If she issued that verdict in Georgia, there would already be calls for a 2nd Amendment Solution.

230 Dark_Falcon  May 19, 2015 4:30:12am

BBL

231 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 4:36:35am

re: #163 Amory Blaine

Lying, entitled fucks say what?

Manpower says skill shortage continues
One in three U.S. employers reports having trouble finding qualified workers

“We’re having trouble finding qualified workers willing to work for the shit pay and non-union conditions we offer”

232 Amory Blaine  May 19, 2015 4:42:36am

Right wing Jesus turns bread into whine.

233 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)  May 19, 2015 4:45:00am

re: #231 Lord Of The Pies

“We’re having trouble finding qualified workers willing to work for the shit pay and non-union conditions we offer”

A lot of really stupid recruiters and companies think that a down market means that they can pick up amazingly skilled and experienced workers for incredibly low salaries. While this may occasionally be true, mostly what they get is the position going unfilled while they wait for the unicorn to come along. A large part of this is because a lot of companies have abandoned training in any meaningful way.

234 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 4:48:43am

re: #233 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)

A lot of really stupid recruiters and companies think that a down market means that they can pick up amazingly skilled and experienced workers for incredibly low salaries. While this may occasionally be true, mostly what they get is the position going unfilled while they wait for the unicorn to come along. A large part of this is because a lot of companies have abandoned training in any meaningful way.

I get calls from recruiters all the time, and since I’m not looking for a new job, the first question I ask is “how much does this pay” (the question that job advice boards tell you to NEVER ASK) and they give me some lowball number and I’m like “I’m making more than that so why are you wasting my time?”

235 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 4:49:18am

Oh nice to see you Obdi!

236 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 4:55:22am

re: #193 austin_blue

Blue skying, here, but we don’t have a formal dual track system like they have in Europe, where kids are divided into Trades and University at 16. Those who go into trades can be anything from Mercedes mechanics to machine tool operators, carpenters, electricians, or plumbers. All well paying jobs.

Oh, wait, we don’t have an apprentice, journeyman, and master Union System here anymore because we are Right to Work for Less states.

Nevermind.

IBEW still has apprentice/journeyman programs. Outdoor linemen who get to journeyman level can make incredible money with very nice benefits. But it’s not for everyone: you have to be able to work long hours outdoors in all weather conditions, not be afraid of heights, and in many cases be willing to travel or relocate. It’s also a dangerous job that requires full attention to details. There are loads of openings all across the country right now as older linemen are retiring.

237 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 4:57:27am

Last night I watched “A Million Ways To Die In The West” and while it was entertaining it did not come anywhere near “Blazing Saddles” which is the greatest Western comedy of all time.

The scene with the Native Americans I did not know what language they were speaking. I Googled and it seems they were just saying nonsense syllables. It would have been a nice tribute to “Blazing Saddles” if they did that scene in Yiddish. :)

238 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 5:00:15am

re: #78 RealityBasedSteve

To me, there’s not many more things more gross than head cheese…

239 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 5:04:59am

re: #231 Lord Of The Pies

“We’re having trouble finding qualified workers willing to work for the shit pay and non-union conditions we offer”

And we are having trouble finding people willing to put themselves deep into debt in order to to to college to qualify themselves for our poorly paid jobs…

240 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 5:07:57am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

To me, there’s not many more things more gross than head cheese…

toe cheese?

241 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 5:20:09am

sigh

242 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 5:24:51am

And it’s a fake story. snopes.com

243 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 19, 2015 5:26:17am

Morning Lizards!

Just to riff on the union thing for a minute:

I grew up in a RTW state (Texas), but my stepfather was IBEW. He always was able to find work down at the union, even when he’d been laid off a couple of times. There were some layabouts, but he’d also work 12-hour shifts 7 days a week on occasion. I thought about going through the apprentice program, but I’m not good with heights.

So I struggled through a number of years of non-union jobs in RTW states (Tx and SC) before landing in IL where I work under a union contract. Even with the extra taken out of my pay for union dues and some of the weird kinks in a CBA, I’ll take the union over the RTW situation any day of the week.

Now, how to convince the rest of the country of this?

Also, our new gov. Rauner has proposed creating RTW “zones” where cities could vote to have looser labor laws. A local city council voted a resolution supporting becoming one of these, and got their asses handed to them when huge numbers showed up to say fuck off, we’re not sitting idly by while you pull this crap.

244 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 5:37:57am
245 Eventual Carrion  May 19, 2015 5:44:33am

I get to cast a vote in the primary today. I am not affiliated with any party (never have been since day one of my voting registration) so in PA closed primary I don’t get to vote in primary most times. We have a question on the ballot this time around so I can go in and make my voice be heard.

246 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 5:47:43am

re: #245 Eventual Carrion

I’ve decided to not bother voting today (first time since 1970).
Our Kentucky Republican primary ballot candidates are either Libertarian or Tea Party. There isn’t one sane person on the ballot.

247 nearly-headless smith25  May 19, 2015 5:49:47am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve decided to not bother voting today (first time since 1970).
Our Kentucky Republican primary ballot candidates are either Libertarian or Tea Party. There isn’t one sane person on the ballot.

It sure has been ugly. Whoever gets the most votes today, the winner of the Republican Primary is going to be Jack Conway.

248 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 5:51:21am

re: #247 nearly-headless smith25

It sure has been ugly. Whoever gets the most votes today, the winner of the Republican Primary is going to be Jack Conway.

Very true, and that makes me happy.

249 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 5:53:07am
250 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 5:54:53am

re: #243 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

251 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 5:58:31am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh

WTF does that have to do with Stevens being killed?

252 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 5:58:34am

re: #243 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Why is is that when investors pool their resources to maximize their assets, it is a called good thing and praised the very essence of Free Enterprise, but when workers pool their bargaining power to maximize their wages and benefits, they are treated as thugs and anti-American?

253 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 19, 2015 5:59:33am

re: #252 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because Capital and Labor. ;)

254 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 19, 2015 6:00:28am

re: #250 Lord Of The Pies

Ohh, that’s a good quote.

I forget now what Rauner’s using, it’s not RTW, but something like “empowerment zones” or something equally squishy.

255 darthstar  May 19, 2015 6:00:32am

re: #78 RealityBasedSteve

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I loved that shit on white bread when I was a kid.

256 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 6:11:27am

The season finale of The Flash dropped a big hint for next season.

Ferris Aircraft is closed because “one of their pilots went missing.” Hal Jordan/Green Lantern was a Ferris test pilot. Just sayin’.

257 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 6:11:51am

re: #250 Lord Of The Pies

Yeah, “right to work” means your State legislature has passed a law which says employers can treat you anyway they wish to treat you, basically, as long as they don’t break any State laws doing it, and some States have very little protection for workers. One of the reasons they love small businesses so much is because they are mostly covered under State laws, and so many aren’t covered under those Federal laws, such as Title VII. They can discriminate as much as they wish, and they do, so long as the number of employees and the amt of money they make don’t exceed certain limits, for instance, more than 14 employees—once you get that 15th employee, you fall under Title VII. And I don’t think those numbers have been changed or amended since 1964.

This is why states and localities should also have their own anti-discrimination laws.

258 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 6:16:12am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

One of the most disturbing terms in a contract is “at will employee.” In other words, the employer can at any time, regardless of the original expectations of your employment, terminate your employment with two weeks notice. It’s never happened to me — well, I came close one time, but in the end the acting boss was overruled by the real boss — but still made me wonder what the contract was for.

259 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 6:17:54am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

No Dem candidates?

260 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 6:18:27am

Get more people like this out of my life, and off my phone and computer. And raise the rates on bulk mail. Please!

FTC, states file complaint against Knoxville charity

knoxnews.com

261 darthstar  May 19, 2015 6:19:29am

I have to say, I do like her dorsal fin smiley. -:()

262 darthstar  May 19, 2015 6:19:45am

re: #261 darthstar

I have to say, I do like her dorsal fin smiley. -:()

Oops…forgot the tweet

263 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 6:20:01am

re: #259 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

No Dem candidates?

Those are on the Democratic Primary ballot.
Kentucky is a closed primary state.

264 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 6:21:51am

re: #163 Amory Blaine

What is a “Skilled Trade Worker”?

265 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 6:24:00am

re: #264 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

What is a “Skilled Trade Worker”?

I assume, electricians, pipefitters, tool-and-die makers, plumbers, carpenters, and the like.

266 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2015 6:24:14am

re: #214 Amory Blaine

I’m thinking the ultimate goal is to get rid of truckers. They use cute little cars to get the masses on board with the tech, but my guess is in the near future there will be convoys of headless trucks being “shepherded” by a single driver.

And I don’t want to be anywhere near a highway when that system glitches due to an unexpected bug, or gets hacked.
//

267 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 6:25:14am

re: #266 Feline Fearless Leader

And I don’t want to be anywhere near a highway when that system glitches due to an unexpected bug, or gets hacked.
//

Mom? Can I keep this semi? It followed me home from school today.

268 wrenchwench  May 19, 2015 6:26:25am

[…]

But the 1996 act does not permit any discretion on the part of immigration judges, who may not take into account a defendant’s military service or any other mitigating circumstances once they have been convicted of an aggravated felony. The act can be invoked against an individual at any time, even years after they have been released from prison. Complicating matters further, non-citizens do not have the right to a government-appointed lawyer. They may hire their own if they can afford to.

Margaret Stock, a retired lieutenant colonel in the Army Reserve, is now an immigration attorney with Cascadia Cross Border Law in Anchorage, Alaska. She told me that before 1996, deportations of military veterans were extremely rare. Now, nearly every day, she said, she consults with a lawyer handling a deportation case or speaks to a veteran facing deportation. The day before I reached her recently, she had consulted on five such cases.

[…]

About 25,000 non-citizens are today serving in the US military, according to a Department of Defense spokesman, or a little less than 2 percent of active duty forces, and approximately 5,000 non-citizens typically enlist each year. In a 2005 study, “Non-Citizens in Today’s Military,” the Center for Naval Analyses found that “non-citizen servicemembers offer several benefits to the military,” most notably, racial, ethnic, linguistic, and cultural diversity. “This diversity is particularly valuable as the United States faces the challenges of the Global War on Terrorism.” It also found that non-citizens have substantially lower attrition rates than white citizens — 9 to 20 percentage points lower over thirty-six months.

[…]

Stock said she is unaware of a single case in which a deported veteran successfully appealed removal and returned to the United States. Veterans have only one sure way to reenter the States legally. When they die, those not discharged dishonorably are eligible for a full military funeral in the United States.

Unwanted alive, they can return home as a corpse.

[…]

RTWT if interested.

269 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 6:28:20am

The sun will come up Wednesday morning, and it will dawn on a fractured state Republican Party.

Going into Tuesday’s primary, it is all but impossible to tell which Republican will emerge victorious.

But it’s easy to see that the winner of the primary is Conway.

yep.

270 darthstar  May 19, 2015 6:29:20am
271 lawhawk  May 19, 2015 6:30:34am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Still interesting to see how the Waco biker massacre (the Waco Twin Peaks Massacre or the Massacre of Heavily Armed Biker Dudes) is being portrayed by the media. The amount of reporting is significantly different than that relating to the Baltimore riots.

Curious, given the respective death tolls, the nature of the criminality behind each, and the role of law enforcement in both.

There are ongoing reports that bikers have threatened attacks against law enforcement. Law enforcement continues warning about reprisals against other biker gangs all over territory (and all that comes with controlling territory - like revenue from criminality).

One report indicates that the shootout began over a dispute back in December, at a Toys for Tots event.

On Dec. 13, 10 Bandidos burst into Gator’s bar in Fort Worth and “without saying a word, started punching and attacking people,” according to a police affidavit.

They then opened fire, killing one motorcycle club member, Geoff Brady of Arlington, and injuring three others, police said.

Three gang members were arrested on murder charges. They are out of jail on $100,000 bond each.

Exactly one week earlier, on Dec. 6, other Bandidos members beat a rival biker at a Toys for Tots event in Decatur, police said. The victim declined to press charges and no arrests were made.

Law enforcement sources say the two incidents and now the Waco shootout highlight a growing fight for control of those drug trafficking routes in Texas.

Groups pay a “tax” to the Bandidos for permission to operate freely without trouble, experts say, but the Cossacks are refusing to pay the Bandidos and are aligning themselves with other biker gangs, including the Bandidos’ largest rival, the Hell’s Angels.

There are periodic and regular shootings and assaults, but those don’t make national headlines, but those events boiled over in Waco with the massive gun battle.

Those arrested were charged with criminal enterprise charges, which would suggest that law enforcement could shut down the entire biker gang involved (Cossacks, Banditos, etc.) and not just arrest those involved, because the criminal conspiracy extends to activities not seen at the scene of the shooting. We’re talking about drugs, gun running, etc.

Banditos are the second most dangerous biker gang (behind the Hell’s Angels), and are considered a threat on par with the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas and PRM.

The Banditos are involved in transporting and distributing cocaine and marijuana and are involved in the production, transportation and distribution of methamphetamine, according to the DOJ.

That would be more than enough cause to shut down the entire gang.

And while territory is a big reason that the shootings likely occurred, the criminality by these gangs is ongoing and a worrisome threat followed by law enforcement for quite some time.

272 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2015 6:31:56am

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yep.

It’s amazing how much better biker thugs look when the lawyers get them cleaned up for court.

273 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 6:36:07am

re: #247 nearly-headless smith25

It sure has been ugly. Whoever gets the most votes today, the winner of the Republican Primary is going to be Jack Conway.

I’m going to predict Matt Bevin as the R winner.

Alison is saying overall voter turnout might be 10%. That may be too optimistic. ;)

274 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 6:37:07am

re: #272 Decatur Deb

It’s amazing how much better biker thugs look when the lawyers get them cleaned up for court.

Also amazing (not really) is how quiet the usual bloggers are when it comes to white gangs busting things up. No doxing of their families, no stripping photos and threatening comments from their social media accounts, no comments about their relative IQ scores.

OTOH, making one of these guys angry is not a very wise idea.

275 wrenchwench  May 19, 2015 6:37:49am

re: #271 lawhawk

‘Toys for Orphans’

276 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2015 6:38:20am

re: #275 wrenchwench

‘Toys for Orphans’

“Tats for Tots”

277 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 6:39:37am

re: #271 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Still interesting to see how the Waco biker massacre (the Waco Twin Peaks Massacre or the Massacre of Heavily Armed Biker Dudes) is being portrayed by the media.

Groups pay a “tax” to the Bandidos for permission to operate freely without trouble, experts say, but the Cossacks are refusing to pay the Bandidos and are aligning themselves with other biker gangs, including the Bandidos’ largest rival, the Hell’s Angels.

So it is about Free Trade and Freedom From Taxation.

Fully admirable ideals.

/

278 ObserverArt  May 19, 2015 6:39:59am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

sigh

Charles C. Johnson @ChuckCJohnson
.@STKnutsen @dpm1967 @nytimes If he wasn’t a poof he’d still be alive.
10:36 PM - 18 May 2015

I hope someday the red-headed one meets a “poof” that doesn’t fit his obvious cliched idea of what a “poof” is and kick his pasty white fat butt into next week.

Oh yeah…morning! Nice and cool here in Ohio today. I like high 60 degree temps. Gonna swap out the winter tires for the summer wheels and performance rubber.

279 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2015 6:40:11am

re: #274 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Also amazing (not really) is how quiet the usual bloggers are when it comes to white gangs busting things up. No doxing of their families, no stripping photos and threatening comments from their social media accounts, no comments about their relative IQ scores.

OTOH, making one of these guys angry is not a very wise idea.

Because, in the depth of their souls, many of the Usual Bloggers have more in common with a white biker thug than with a kid buying skittles.

280 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 6:40:54am

re: #278 ObserverArt

I hope someday the red-headed one meets a “poof” that doesn’t fit his obvious cliched idea of what a “poof” is and kick his pasty white fat butt into next week.

Oh yeah…morning! Nice and cool here in Ohio today. I like high 60 degree temps. Gonna swap out the winter tires for the summer wheels and performance rubber.

And what the muther fucing fuk is a “poof”?

281 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2015 6:42:00am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So it is about Free Trade and Freedom From Taxation.

Fully admirable ideals.

/

Libertarianism (or anarchy) at work. Remove the structures and something more informal will pop up in its place. Generally in a more violent and deadly format.

Freedom to “do what you want” can pretty quickly transform into “take what you want”.*
/

* - Aware that this is mentioned in the graphic novel version of “V for Vendetta”.

282 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2015 6:42:14am

re: #280 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And what the muther fucing fuk is a “poof”?

Derogatory slang for a gay man, usually effemenite.

283 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 6:42:56am

re: #280 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And what the muther fucing fuk is a “poof”?

Also called “poofta,” a gay man. It’s British slang, IIRC.

284 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2015 6:43:06am

re: #280 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And what the muther fucing fuk is a “poof”?

Something that there are faculty rules regarding. Multiple rules actually.
//

And Obama will invoke Rule 6 shortly.
//

285 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 6:43:07am

re: #280 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And what the muther fucing fuk is a “poof”?

teh ghey

286 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 6:43:39am

re: #283 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Also called “poofta,” a gay man. It’s British slang, IIRC.

re: #282 Dr Lizardo

Derogatory slang for a gay man, usually effeminite.

See, this is why I come here. So much I don’t know….

287 ObserverArt  May 19, 2015 6:44:11am

re: #280 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And what the muther fucing fuk is a “poof”?

Slang for Gay.

288 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 6:45:01am

re: #287 ObserverArt

Slang for Gay.

Remember, UpChuck knows multiple languages.

289 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 6:45:21am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

teh ghey

re: #284 Feline Fearless Leader

Something that there are faculty rules regarding. Multiple rules actually.
//

And Obama will invoke Rule 6 shortly.
//

Although I also come here because I can reference two or more quotes in a post.

290 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 6:46:04am
291 darthstar  May 19, 2015 6:46:22am

re: #288 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Remember, UpChuck knows multiple languages.

There’s someone who could disappear in a gay of smoke and it wouldn’t hurt the planet.

292 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2015 6:46:23am

re: #288 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Remember, UpChuck knows multiple languages.

The voices in his head are very diverse.

293 ObserverArt  May 19, 2015 6:47:21am

re: #288 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Remember, UpChuck knows multiple languages.

Yeah. Outside of poor English there is Bigot, Idiot, Dumbass, Conservative Blockhead, Drunk, High…

294 lawhawk  May 19, 2015 6:47:34am

Someone isn’t getting the concept that Chucky is a racist and approvingly retweets white supremacists and racists.

295 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 6:47:41am

re: #292 Decatur Deb

The voices in his head are very diverse.

A one-man confederacy of dunces

296 darthstar  May 19, 2015 6:47:58am
297 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2015 6:48:22am

re: #295 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

A one-man confederacy of dunces

Perhaps that IQ is cumulative.

298 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 6:49:22am

re: #295 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

A one-man confederacy of dunces

Regret I only have one upding….

299 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 6:49:40am

re: #294 lawhawk

Someone isn’t getting the concept that Chucky is a racist and approvingly retweets white supremacists and racists.

Given his penchant for praising The Bell Curve for changing his life, making constant references to IQ and skin color, and implying that all blacks are “wired” to be criminals, the retweets are just corroborating evidence

300 darthstar  May 19, 2015 6:49:49am

re: #294 lawhawk

Someone isn’t getting the concept that Chucky is a racist and approvingly retweets white supremacists and racists.

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Chuck’s probably still trying to figure out if ‘calling a spade a spade’ was a racist dig at him…but I’m white!

301 darthstar  May 19, 2015 6:53:57am
302 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 6:54:46am

re: #300 darthstar

Chuck’s probably still trying to figure out if ‘calling a spade a spade’ was a racist dig at him…but I’m white!

In this phrase, the term “spade” refers to the digging implement.

phrases.org.uk

303 ObserverArt  May 19, 2015 6:55:42am

Does anyone wonder if there are actual connections between CCJs tiny brain and his tweetin’ fingers or his mouth?

Of course, I am not quite sure he really has a brain, tiny or otherwise. His head might be more like a vacuum that pulls in “info” through his ear holes then they rattle around until they can find the first way back out.

304 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 6:57:00am

re: #303 ObserverArt

Does anyone wonder if there are actual connections between CCJs tiny brain and his tweetin’ fingers or his mouth?

Of course, I am not quite sure he really has a brain, tiny or otherwise. His head might be more like a vacuum that pulls in “info” through his ear holes then they rattle around until they can find the first way back out.

His tweets generally come from a bottle…

305 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 6:57:27am

re: #303 ObserverArt

Does anyone wonder if there are actual connections between CCJs tiny brain and his tweetin’ fingers or his mouth?

Of course, I am not quite sure he really has a brain, tiny or otherwise. His head might be more like a vacuum that pulls in “info” through his ear holes then they rattle around until they can find the first way back out.

Mostly I wonder WTF he does all day, besides tweeting up a storm.

306 CuriousLurker  May 19, 2015 7:05:05am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

His tweets generally come from a bottle…

Computers, or at least modems, should have a breathalyzer attached to them that won’t let you go online unless you’re under the legal alcohol limit. //

Seriously, why do some people get so obnoxious when drunk? I’ve never seen anyone get that way after smoking weed (except in Reefer Madness).

307 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2015 7:06:31am

re: #306 CuriousLurker

Computers, or at least modems, should have a breathalyzer attached to them that won’t let you go online unless you’re under the legal alcohol limit. //

Seriously, why do some people get so obnoxious when drunk? I’ve never seen anyone get that way after smoking weed (except in Reefer Madness).

Do you think we could liveblog the TPGOP debates sober?

308 Timothy Watson  May 19, 2015 7:07:48am

Really, one of the RWNJs used a picture of Samuel L. Jackson’s character in Django Unchained to insult the President?

309 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 7:10:44am

re: #306 CuriousLurker

Seriously, why do some people get so obnoxious when drunk? I’ve never seen anyone get that way after smoking weed (except in Reefer Madness).

Alcohol just enhances your natural personality traits. If you are basically a stupid, obnoxious asshole, it brings those traits right out.

310 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 7:14:36am

re: #301 darthstar

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OTOH, when elected, she’ll only be making $400K/yr and giving speeches for free.

311 darthstar  May 19, 2015 7:16:32am

re: #310 Justanotherhuman

OTOH, when elected, she’ll only be making $400K/yr and giving speeches for free.

Great point!

312 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 7:18:26am

People suffering because of the lust for power of some.

313 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  May 19, 2015 7:18:43am

re: #310 Justanotherhuman

OTOH, when elected, she’ll only be making $400K/yr and giving speeches for free.

Gee I hope she doesn’t resign halfway through her first term.

314 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 7:19:39am

re: #310 Justanotherhuman

OTOH, when elected, she’ll only be making $400K/yr and giving speeches for free.

Hurr hurr Dictator Obama will not allow elections and become Dictator!!!11

315 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 7:20:16am

And more…

316 Patricia Kayden  May 19, 2015 7:20:20am

re: #142 Kragar

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How is pulling the troops out of Iraq be a bad thing when Americans shouldn’t have been there in the first place?

317 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 7:21:15am

re: #316 Patricia Kayden

How is pulling the troops out of Iraq be a bad thing when Americans shouldn’t have been there in the first place?

It’s bad when Obama does it…

318 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 7:21:42am

re: #316 Patricia Kayden

Because some people want victory, not justice.

319 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  May 19, 2015 7:22:14am

re: #316 Patricia Kayden

God only knows what we owe the surviving troops.

320 darthstar  May 19, 2015 7:26:38am

You’re doing a heckuvajob Fox.

321 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 7:27:46am

This is what racist, uninformed, ignorant conservatives think about Africa.

Conservative Report ‏@Badass_Abe 3h3 hours ago
@UNICEF @unicefssudan Why are they all black? Getting tired of helping Africa, we have wasted our time their for decades

This was a comment on the photo of the children.

322 lawhawk  May 19, 2015 7:27:59am

Chucky is as much a reporter as I am.

And I’ve actually broken news (photojournalism - covering OWS at Zucotti Park for instance) and reporting on events at the WTC rebuilding or Ground Zero mosque, etc.

323 darthstar  May 19, 2015 7:28:18am
324 William Lewis  May 19, 2015 7:29:40am

Testing my account on cell phone.

325 William Lewis  May 19, 2015 7:30:05am

Testing on computer

326 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 7:31:43am

Well, earlier I said the season finale of The Flash had a hint for the next season. Joke’s on me. There’s one more ep left this season.

327 William Lewis  May 19, 2015 7:31:50am

Ok, I seem to be able to post again. All last night every attempt at posting got me a popup saying “Comments are closed” as the comments rolled on. Very weird. I sent Charles a message from the contact form but I don’t know if he got it. Still, it’s nice to see I can post again.

328 ObserverArt  May 19, 2015 7:39:41am

re: #320 darthstar

You’re doing a heckuvajob Fox.

The FOX News Propaganda Machine - Creating Falsehoods for the G.O.P. since 1996
329 darthstar  May 19, 2015 7:40:59am

Oh, Texas…you put a ban on banning fracking, you have the fattest city (Houston) in the US, you have open carry assholes all over, biker gangs shooting it out at malls, and a governor who is so paranoid he thinks the US government is invading his state…and this.

330 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 7:42:23am

re: #320 darthstar

You’re doing a heckuvajob Fox.

Politics is supposed to be about winning people over to your point of view. Fox has turned into a mouthpiece for branding people who hold opposing views as thugs, criminals, moochers, losers, terrorist sympathizers, communists, feminazis, environmental whackos, anti-Americans, etc.

331 darthstar  May 19, 2015 7:46:13am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Politics is supposed to be about winning people over to your point of view. Fox has turned into a mouthpiece for branding people who hold opposing views as thugs, criminals, moochers, losers, terrorist sympathizers, communists, feminazis, environmental whackos, anti-Americans, etc.

As their viewers die off, the GOP base shrinks. Now, some states - like Kansas - are isolated enough that they’ll continue to be GOP strongholds as anyone with an education and a full tank of gas will be headed to more favorable climates. But eventually even those states will have to wake up to the reality that they can’t survive with zero revenue.

332 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 7:46:36am

Louisiana legislative House Committee debating religious freedom bill right now.
It’s as goofy as one would expect:

333 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 7:49:39am
334 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2015 7:50:04am

In less than 24 hours, @POTUS has racked up 1.8+ million followers. Impressive.

335 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2015 7:51:06am

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

Louisiana Family Forum’s Rick Edmonds read a column excerpt that referred to Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg as “the Notorious RBG”

That’s just her rap recording tag.

336 darthstar  May 19, 2015 7:51:06am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

Louisiana legislative House Committee debating religious freedom bill right now.
It’s as goofy as one would expect:

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I suspect they’ll celebrate this bill with a circle jerk later. Bobby Jindal will be pivot.

337 Great White Snark  May 19, 2015 7:52:47am

re: #320 darthstar

You’re doing a heckuvajob Fox.

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Lumberhead had a Page on that. Mixed feelings, if they were not scaring our elders half to death with this, I’d say please proceed. Let the GOP fall on a spectacular fail like a broadcast network crash & sale.

But really I think well, Fox… You Had One Job.
//

338 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 7:56:01am

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

Numnuts Franklin Graham, after urging his followers to pray for RBG, referred to her as a justice who’d been on the court for “over two decades”!!!!!!

As if RBG was the longest serving justice on the SCOTUS.

339 darthstar  May 19, 2015 7:56:42am

Aha! I knew it!

340 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 7:57:35am

re: #334 Dr. Matt

In less than 24 hours, @POTUS has racked up 1.8+ million followers. Impressive.

When can we expect DimJim or CCJ to carefully investigate @POTUS followers and decree that Hurr hurr Obamas followers fake—CONFIRMED FACT!!!

341 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 7:58:22am

re: #340 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

When can we expect DimJim or CCJ to carefully investigate @POTUS followers and decree that Hurr hurr Obamas followers fake—CONFIRMED FACT!!!

They’re all Kenyans.

//

342 freetoken  May 19, 2015 7:58:36am

re: #329 darthstar

For clarity:

texastribune.org

343 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 7:58:56am

re: #339 darthstar

West is just pissed because he can’t join the Bandidos.

344 Lidane  May 19, 2015 7:58:58am

Oh for fuck’s sake. There are “Biker Truthers”. It’s a Breitbart article, but don’t worry, the link below is a DoNotLink:

BIKER TRUTHERS EMERGE CALLING WACO SHOOTOUT A ‘POLICE MASSACRE’

What. The. Fuck.

345 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 7:59:33am
346 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  May 19, 2015 7:59:45am

I’m out for the night. See y’all later.

347 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 8:00:38am

When is Rolling Stone going to publish an article exposing the epidemic of Cake Rape?

348 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 8:01:19am
349 darthstar  May 19, 2015 8:01:42am

re: #342 freetoken

For clarity:

texastribune.org

Well, adhering to the DSM4 (or is it DSM5 now?) would be somewhat consistent with other states…

350 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 8:02:30am

The live tweeting of #lalege and #HB707 is just amazing.

351 freetoken  May 19, 2015 8:02:31am

re: #349 darthstar

Well, adhering to the DSM4 (or is it DSM5 now?) would be somewhat consistent with other states…

As required by the FEMA occupation plan…

352 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 8:03:38am

but, of course, because RULES.

353 darthstar  May 19, 2015 8:04:08am

re: #351 freetoken

As required by the FEMA occupation plan…

Really not much of a Trojan horse though.

354 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 8:05:13am

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Christian colleges losing accreditation”? Gay people did that?

Pretty sure a Christian college, having a specific Christian purpose, probably tax-exempt and all that, will be able to carry on as always.

Cake shops, however, are not usually specifically “Christian” in purpose and are for-profit and all like that.

355 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 8:05:55am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

but, of course, because RULES.

Stay classy, LAleg

356 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 8:06:29am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

but, of course, because RULES.

Kangaroo court, er, legislature.

357 darthstar  May 19, 2015 8:07:49am
358 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 8:09:38am

re: #357 darthstar

Dow Chemical? That’s a business decision rather than an ethical one.

359 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 8:11:16am

HURR HURR NO BIRTH CONTROL FOR TEH SLUTS GET A JERB BUT NO DAYCARE FOR TEH SINGLE MOM SLUTS!!!!!!

360 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 8:16:12am
361 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 8:19:33am

re: #358 Justanotherhuman

Dow Chemical? That’s a business decision rather than an ethical one.

Which goes to show that these TPGOP folks understand neither ethics nor business…

362 Kryptik  May 19, 2015 8:19:40am

re: #359 Lord Of The Pies

“If you’re pre-born, you’re fine, if you’re pre-school, you’re FUCKED.”
- George Carlin

363 RealityBasedSteve  May 19, 2015 8:21:46am

re: #357 darthstar

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Waiting for mandatory RWNJ call for a boycott of Dow Chemical and all it’s subsidiaries. Of course they won’t be able to pass the word via their computers running either Apple or Microsoft products. Or fly to the protests on pretty much any of the major airlines, or drive in most cars, since all those companies rank high on the hrc.org list of LGBT supportive (meaning “treating LGBT folk like everybody else”)

RBS

364 freetoken  May 19, 2015 8:24:27am

Here’s the live video feed:

house.louisiana.gov

365 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 8:25:43am

Ben is trying to compete with Chucky

366 Lidane  May 19, 2015 8:26:59am

re: #357 darthstar

Just like every other multi-national corporation. They HATE these “religious freedom” bills. They get in the way of talent recruiting and retention.

They also hate the patchwork approach to gay marriage that the RWNJs want. For these companies, they want to be able to offer comparable benefits to gay and straight employees, since it all goes back to that whole talent recruiting and retention thing. Anything to simplify the process (i.e., married is married whether your’e gay or straight) is better because it costs them less in man hours to get people set up with the benefits that are part of their compensation packages.

367 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 8:28:50am
368 Lidane  May 19, 2015 8:28:59am

re: #358 Justanotherhuman

Dow Chemical? That’s a business decision rather than an ethical one.

Sure. They want to recruit talent. They don’t want anything that gets in their way to do it. And they want to be able to ensure that their LGBT employees get the same benefits as their straight employees because it’s less of a bureaucratic nightmare for them.

369 iossarian  May 19, 2015 8:29:02am

re: #359 Lord Of The Pies

I am totally shocked to hear that the Cato Institute has produced “research” and “analysis” to oppose social programs.

370 freetoken  May 19, 2015 8:29:19am

Video freezes up quite a bit. I doubt their servers can handle all the hits.

371 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 8:29:58am

Ask Ben who does he think rawa.org consists of, Conservative Evangelicals?

372 iossarian  May 19, 2015 8:31:45am

re: #371 Lord Of The Pies

Ask Ben who does he think rawa.org consists of, Conservative Evangelicals?

I don’t think Ben Shapiro thinks all that deeply about this stuff.

373 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 8:32:34am
374 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 8:34:12am
375 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 8:34:31am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tea Party just concerned about taxes and too much government and regulations and stuff.

//

376 freetoken  May 19, 2015 8:34:42am

Teh ghey is really scaring them
down in LA.

377 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 8:34:54am
378 GlutenFreeJesus  May 19, 2015 8:35:41am

re: #322 lawhawk

379 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 8:36:35am

re: #365 Lord Of The Pies

Ben is trying to compete with Chucky

So today is Ben’s day to hate feminists? Does he choose a different enemy each day I wonder?

380 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 8:36:47am

When you take something like this as an insult and react so violently, you’re too far gone to remain in polite society.

Waco, Texas, police say parking issue may be what sparked outside altercation between biker gangs, possibly someone’s foot run over - @Fox4Natalie
see original on twitter.com

Apologists for these people are all over TV, insinuating that they’re “regular folks” who work and have families.

381 freetoken  May 19, 2015 8:37:44am

These folk are easily going over 3 minutes.

All because of the scary ghey.

382 Timothy Watson  May 19, 2015 8:38:32am

re: #381 freetoken

These folk are easily going over 3 minutes.

All because of the scary ghey.

Public hearing rules are for the people in the minority.

383 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 8:39:08am

re: #379 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So today is Ben’s day to hate feminists? Does he choose a different enemy each day I wonder?

Ben thinks feminists should just Shut Up because Islam.

384 iossarian  May 19, 2015 8:40:36am

Maybe Ben Shapiro will take the hearings as an opportunity to remind us that progressive people don’t care about the oppression of gay people in third world countries.

Then we just have to think of some further inane talking point to complete the nutter trifecta. “Abortion is a tool to keep black people on the plantation” perhaps?

385 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 8:40:49am

former US Senate candidate:

good freaking grief.

386 Kid A  May 19, 2015 8:41:00am

I just got contracted by the San Francisco Chronicle to photograph all the Golden State Warriors’ games here in Houston. STOKED.

387 iossarian  May 19, 2015 8:41:41am

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

former US Senate candidate:

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good freaking grief.

Vicious attacks == people complaining when they get turned away from B&Bs.

388 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2015 8:41:46am

re: #369 iossarian

I am totally shocked to hear that the Cato Institute has produced “research” and “analysis” to oppose social programs.

He was going to report differently, but Clouseau clocked him from behind with a shinai and then submitted a different report.
//

389 Kryptik  May 19, 2015 8:41:58am

re: #380 Justanotherhuman

Meanwhile, everyone who protested in Ferguson and Baltimore are made out to be incurable hyperviolent mega-thugs who are proof positive that blacks are somehow inherently inferior and the real ultra-mega-super-racists in the country.

Fuck that shit. The double standard here is blatant enough it may as well be rimmed in gaudy neon lights, but nope. Biker gang gunfight with multiple deaths and possible RICO implications: normal people getting into brawls, no mind there. Black man gets shot in Baltimore: drug dealing thug and everyone who protests against his death just proves themselves as the savages they are. That’s the fucking media line, and the line that proves just how fucking incurably racist this country still is.

390 freetoken  May 19, 2015 8:42:02am

The religious “witnesses” keep reiterating claims that are on the face of them clearly false. The most common assertion is that 707 is a “shield” but that begs the question why there aren’t other “shield”s for any exemption to any law.

Every argument I’ve heard by them could be applied to any minority trying to exercise a right. I can easily imagine some of these same people arguing for segregation.

391 iossarian  May 19, 2015 8:42:28am

re: #388 Feline Fearless Leader

He was going to report differently, but Clouseau clocked him from behind with a shinai and then submitted a different report.
//

Lol. A new connection made!

“Oriental swine!”

392 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 8:42:48am

Sarah Palin just loved Rob Maness and even campaigned in person for him.

Kiss. Of. Political. Death.

393 Eventual Carrion  May 19, 2015 8:44:26am

Some trees have been letting their propeller seeds loose yesterday and today. They are all over the parking lot here at work. Yesterday every time the wind blew there were hundreds of them spinning everywhere. I just like the way a mass of them look when coming down.

394 Lidane  May 19, 2015 8:44:32am

re: #380 Justanotherhuman

Apologists for these people are all over TV, insinuating that they’re “regular folks” who work and have families.

Which is a bunch of dishonest horseshit. The Bandidos have been fighting the Hell’s Angels for decades. People need to Google The Great Nordic Biker War and see that the Bandidos aren’t just “regular folks” with jobs and families. They’re a criminal syndicate.

The Cossacks are another criminal syndicate with a long history. They’ve been around since the 60’s and are at least loosely aligned with the Hell’s Angels. And the Cossacks and Bandidos have been fighting for years. All the rest of the clubs seem to be prospects trying to get in with either one side or the other.

“Regular folks” my ass. These are outlaw bikers who aren’t afraid to kill or to get violent, as we’ve seen.

395 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 8:44:55am

re: #368 Lidane

Doesn’t make me like evil Dow Chemical any more, though. : )

396 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2015 8:45:54am

re: #393 Eventual Carrion

Some trees have been letting their propeller seeds loose yesterday and today. They are all over the parking lot here at work. Yesterday every time the wind blew there were hundreds of them spinning everywhere. I just like the way a mass of them look when coming down.

In Australia the equivalent are ridden by spiders on the attack.
/ ;P

397 iossarian  May 19, 2015 8:46:25am

re: #395 Justanotherhuman

Doesn’t make me like evil Dow Chemical any more, though. : )

Totally. “Hey, here’s this one thing where a liberal viewpoint aligns with our corporate motives. But we’re still going to keep dumping mercury in your drinking water. KTHXBYE.”

398 Lidane  May 19, 2015 8:46:59am

re: #395 Justanotherhuman

Doesn’t make me like evil Dow Chemical any more, though. : )

Oh sure. I loathe Walmart but they’re on the right side of these issues too, and for the same reasons. They’re all about the bottom line. Anything that expands their talent pool and allows their HR departments to use just one set of benefit forms is a good thing.

Doesn’t make Walmart or Dow or any of these companies saints. It just means they’re stopped clocks on LGBT issues.

399 Timothy Watson  May 19, 2015 8:47:45am

re: #398 Lidane

Oh sure. I loathe Walmart but they’re on the right side of these issues too, and for the same reasons. They’re all about the bottom line. Anything that expands their talent pool and allows their HR departments to use just one set of benefit forms is a good thing.

Doesn’t make Walmart or Dow or any of these companies saints. It just means they’re stopped clocks on LGBT issues.

Hey, stop badmouthing Wal-Mart, they’re also helping us take over Texas.

400 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 8:50:24am

US lawmaker sees early June vote to repeal meat labeling laws to avoid costly retaliation from Canada and Mexico - @Reuters
end of alert

So you won’t know the source of any of it.

401 Lidane  May 19, 2015 8:51:05am

re: #399 Timothy Watson

Hey, stop badmouthing Wal-Mart, they’re also helping us take over Texas.

I still think Jim Wright has a great point about the Walmart FEMA Camps o’DOOOM:

Sure, just for the sake of argument, let’s say Obama really is planning on herding Texans into FEMA death camps disguised as Wal-Marts.

Why would he need the army?

Think about it. Why would you need some secret plot to get Texans into a Wal-Mart?

Announce a Veterans Day sale with 50% off all ammunition, Duck Dynasty camouflage, and frozen chicken nuggets, unlock the doors, and step the hell out of the way before you get trampled.

Honestly, where does the Army come in?

402 freetoken  May 19, 2015 8:51:34am

Even the anti-folk speak like theologians.

403 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 8:52:17am

If he has a “history of mental illness”, how was he able to buy guns? Oh wait, it’s Floriduh.

Shooter accused of May 11 shooting attempt had ‘fixation’ on George Zimmerman, history of mental illness, police report says - @AP
end of alert

404 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 8:52:50am

What In The Pluperfect Fuck…

405 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 8:53:12am

I’m sure Z told the cops exactly how to write their report. Or Daddy Dearest did.

406 lawhawk  May 19, 2015 8:55:27am

re: #404 Lord Of The Pies

Weasel Zippers > Dana Loesch > ProgsToday. That’s a trifecta of trippy logic.

Assuming that there were paid protesters who got on air, then leaps of logic to conclude that they were union dues and union workers who were involved in the Ferguson violence.

Oy.

407 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 8:56:22am

re: #369 iossarian

I am totally shocked to hear that the Cato Institute has produced “research” and “analysis” to oppose social programs.

I’m really shocked, too. Proves just how “balanced” and non-bi-partisan they are.

//

408 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 8:56:46am

re: #404 Lord Of The Pies

What In The Pluperfect Fuck…

Does DimJim know that cops are union members, too?

409 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2015 8:59:32am

re: #408 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Does DimJim know that cops are union members, too?

They’re the “good union members.” Rolls eyes.

410 freetoken  May 19, 2015 8:59:36am

re: #408 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Does DimJim know

That is one verb too far.

411 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 9:00:18am

This also happened in the Louisiana legislature today:

Another state that thinks sales taxes are a reasonable option to fund infrastructure/transportation..

412 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 9:01:48am

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

This also happened in the Louisiana legislature today:

Another state that thinks sales taxes are a reasonable option to fund infrastructure/transportation..

Did these folks sign a No-Tax Pledge? Or has the pledge been modified to No Income Tax?

413 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 9:01:51am

re: #407 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

About as balanced and non-bipartisan as their good friend, GG.

414 retired cynic  May 19, 2015 9:02:59am

re: #380 Justanotherhuman

When you take something like this as an insult and react so violently, you’re too far gone to remain in polite society.

Waco, Texas, police say parking issue may be what sparked outside altercation between biker gangs, possibly someone’s foot run over - @Fox4Natalie
see original on twitter.com

Apologists for these people are all over TV, insinuating that they’re “regular folks” who work and have families.

Radio, too. NPR had a program on it, and a bunch of ‘just guys in a club’ called in. One had the CT about the whole thing being a setup by a police gang.

415 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 9:03:13am

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

This also happened in the Louisiana legislature today:

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Another state that thinks sales taxes are a reasonable option to fund infrastructure/transportation..

Because the voters loved that so much in Michigan.

416 Ace-o-aces  May 19, 2015 9:03:57am

re: #136 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

CCJ has been so busy sliming Twitter that his blog has lay fallow for almost a week.

It has now been over five days since @gotnewsfan has retweeted anything from CCJ. He’s lost his one “fan”.

417 Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2015 9:04:18am

re: #316 Patricia Kayden

How is pulling the troops out of Iraq be a bad thing when Americans shouldn’t have been there in the first place?

As George Carlin pointed out many years ago about the Vietnam Conflict.

Pull out? Doesn’t sound manly to us.

Which is, of course, what we’re doing to those people.

418 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 9:04:48am

GOP legislatures are determined to show they are “doing something” about the horrible infrastructure by proposing “Tax The Poors”

419 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 9:06:26am

re: #418 Lord Of The Pies

GOP legislatures are determined to show they are “doing something” about the horrible infrastructure by proposing “Tax The Poors”

Other states are taxing marijuana sales, but I don’t think Louisiana is that savvy…

420 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2015 9:06:58am

re: #414 retired cynic

Radio, too. NPR had a program on it, and a bunch of ‘just guys in a club’ called in. One had the CT about the whole thing being a setup by a police gang.

It’s a few “lone wolf” motorcyclists making all the other motorcyclists look bad.
///

421 lawhawk  May 19, 2015 9:07:35am

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sales tax is regressive. Motor fuels taxes are regressive, so the issue becomes one of whether you’re willing to hike either a point to raise the needed revenues.

Income taxes are not as regressive (depends on what state you’re talking about, and whether they have multiple rates, single rate, and how their exemptions/deductions work out for effective tax rate purposes).

So, Louisiana has decided to raise the infrastructure revenue by a sales tax hike rather than a motor fuel tax hike.

Louisiana has a 20 cent gas tax, which is higher than MS or AL for instance. For sales tax, LA has a 4% rate as does AL (but localities can and do impose higher rates), while MS has a 7% rate, so from a business sense, LA figures that they can hike the sales tax a point to generate the revenue, without adversely affecting their competitiveness against AL and MS.

Of course, Jindal had attempted to kill the income tax entirely in LA and was rebuffed when that would have meant a far higher sales tax and as I noted before, is highly regressive.

A motor fuel or sales tax hike to cover infrastructure hike isn’t good, but it’s the best of bad options if all that revenue is dedicated to infrastructure and not siphoned off for general fund purposes (as has happened elsewhere).

422 retired cynic  May 19, 2015 9:08:05am

re: #394 Lidane

Which is a bunch of dishonest horseshit. The Bandidos have been fighting the Hell’s Angels for decades. People need to Google The Great Nordic Biker War and see that the Bandidos aren’t just “regular folks” with jobs and families. They’re a criminal syndicate.

The Cossacks are another criminal syndicate with a long history. They’ve been around since the 60’s and are at least loosely aligned with the Hell’s Angels. And the Cossacks and Bandidos have been fighting for years. All the rest of the clubs seem to be prospects trying to get in with either one side or the other.

“Regular folks” my ass. These are outlaw bikers who aren’t afraid to kill or to get violent, as we’ve seen.

Just a few bad apples. /// Really, from the NPR call-in.

423 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 9:08:06am

re: #416 Ace-o-aces

It has now been over five days since @gotnewsfan has retweeted anything from CCJ. He’s lost his one “fan”.

gotnewsfan a CCJ sock-puppet I assume.

424 Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2015 9:08:56am

re: #358 Justanotherhuman

Dow Chemical? That’s a business decision rather than an ethical one.

The enemy of my enemy etc.

425 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2015 9:09:06am

re: #423 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

gotnewsfan a CCJ sock-puppet I assume.

It’s his sober alter ego. Thus the reason it never writes anything.
///

426 freetoken  May 19, 2015 9:09:38am

re: #418 Lord Of The Pies

As far as I am concerned, the only fair way to pay for roads is to 1) tax by vehicle size, weight, and use, and 2) progressively tax those who benefit the most from the existence of these roads in their society.

But that makes me a radical.

427 Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2015 9:10:41am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Heeeere’s Johnny!

428 Dr. Matt  May 19, 2015 9:10:48am

re: #416 Ace-o-aces

It has now been over five days since @gotnewsfan has retweeted anything from CCJ. He’s lost his one “fan”.

He hasn’t posted a new story on goatnews.com since the dick pics. He really has one hellava operation over there:

Goatnews. We report “news”….every so often

429 Lidane  May 19, 2015 9:11:58am

*sigh*

Yet another Republican who doesn’t understand the looming demographic death his party faces.

430 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 9:12:05am

re: #428 Dr. Matt

He hasn’t posted a new story on goatnews.com since the dick pics. He really has one hellava operation over there:

Goatnews. We report “news”….every so often

Goatnews sounds like some kind of First Look operation.

/

431 WhatEVs  May 19, 2015 9:12:11am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m going to predict Matt Bevin as the R winner.

Alison is saying overall voter turnout might be 10%. That may be too optimistic. ;)

And the R’s win because they know when voter turnout is low they win. Just like they win when they stop legislation and they win when they lie and distort to turn people off…which in turn makes voter turnout lower and lower.

Feature, not bug.

432 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 9:12:44am

re: #426 freetoken

As far as I am concerned, the only fair way to pay for roads is to 1) tax by vehicle size, weight, and use, and 2) progressively tax those who benefit the most from the existence of these roads in their society.

But that makes me a radical.

Since the sales tax proposal was crushed by voters, Michigan GOP have a new plan to Tax The Poors

433 WhatEVs  May 19, 2015 9:13:22am

re: #280 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And what the muther fucing fuk is a “poof”?

The 80s called…it wants its gay slur back.

434 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 9:14:24am

re: #431 WhatEVs

And the R’s win because they know when voter turnout is low they win. Just like they win when they stop legislation and they win when they lie and distort to turn people off…which in turn makes voter turnout lower and lower.

Feature, not bug.

It’s just the primary. In November, Jack Conway will crush whoever the R’s pick today.

435 WhatEVs  May 19, 2015 9:14:34am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Gold diggers gotta dig. That’s all I gotta say.” - Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL), on his estranged wife bit.ly

Well, that will help his case, for sure. //

Sheesh.

436 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 9:15:02am
437 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 9:16:17am
438 Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2015 9:17:36am

re: #429 Lidane

*sigh*

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Yet another Republican who doesn’t understand the looming demographic death his party faces.

They’re hoping to gain enough power that such a threat is minimal because old white guys will have all the power once again.

439 freetoken  May 19, 2015 9:18:37am

re: #437 Backwoods_Sleuth

The ADL guy was the best so far, I think.

440 Lidane  May 19, 2015 9:19:05am

“SHARIA LAW IS COMING TO CLEVELAND! RUN FOR THE DAMN HILLS!”

441 lawhawk  May 19, 2015 9:19:27am

re: #426 freetoken

Vehicle mile taxes, which capture revenue based on how miles driven in a period, versus fuel taxes, which aren’t generating revenues they used to because fuel economy has greatly increased, meaning the vehicles are still doing the same or more miles, but with less gas - another stress on limited revenue to fix roads/bridges/rail.

There’s a lot of opposition to that, and there’s a lack of consensus on how to implement it.

Other possibilities, especially for urban areas, include congestion pricing (which is a big issue here in NYC metro).

But states have to do something to fund their chronically underfunded infrastructure budgets.

442 freetoken  May 19, 2015 9:20:10am

re: #440 Lidane

Anchor Terror Babies Boffins.

443 HappyWarrior  May 19, 2015 9:20:49am

re: #440 Lidane

“SHARIA LAW IS COMING TO CLEVELAND! RUN FOR THE DAMN HILLS!”

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My cornea transplant was obviously Shariah.//

444 Decatur Deb  May 19, 2015 9:21:22am

re: #438 Romantic Heretic

They’re hoping to gain enough power that such a threat is minimal because old white guys will have all the power once again.

Also planning to use their power at state level to change the rules. The electorate would look like the 1850’s again. Hillary’s Supreme Court nominees are about the only way to prevent that.

445 WhatEVs  May 19, 2015 9:21:30am

re: #337 Great White Snark

Lumberhead had a Page on that. Mixed feelings, if they were not scaring our elders half to death with this, I’d say please proceed. Let the GOP fall on a spectacular fail like a broadcast network crash & sale.

But really I think well, Fox… You Had One Job.
//

They’re not just scaring the elders half to death, they are lying to them to get them to vote GOP so they can literally starve them to death or kill them with Medicare cuts. It’s so disgustingly 1984 it’s…disgusting.

446 Dave In Austin  May 19, 2015 9:23:11am
447 freetoken  May 19, 2015 9:26:23am

I’ve previously wondered if Entomologists were some subversive Muslim plotters, just waiting to sneak in some suicidal beetles to destroy America.

Beware the beetles.

448 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 9:26:58am

re: #440 Lidane

“SHARIA LAW IS COMING TO CLEVELAND! RUN FOR THE DAMN HILLS!”

Frank must be running out of material. Haven’t heard any hits of his in a while.
//

449 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 9:29:14am
450 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 9:30:12am
451 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 9:33:00am

re: #449 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not a true Christian!!!!11

452 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 9:34:08am

re: #451 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Not a true Christian!!!!11

Obviously, because she’s a Methodist…

///////////

453 wrenchwench  May 19, 2015 9:34:56am
454 ObserverArt  May 19, 2015 9:37:56am

Well, summer sportin’ tires are on. Woot.

What a gorgeous day.

An update on the bad crash yesterday in practice for the Indy 500. It was worse than originally thought.

If b_sharp is around…looks like we race fans almost lost another Canadian driver.

I’m not going to go into details…a bit too grim. So,here is a link to an article that explains it all.

RACER.com - Indy 500: Quick safety team response key in critical Hinchcliffe crash

I feel for the drivers. There are growing issues with the current car and it is more than the aerodynamic aspects. There have been a few questions about the integrity of the chassis. That question may have been shown in Hinchcliffe’s crash yesterday.

I’m disgusted by all this. I am at the point they might think about not running that race Sunday. But they will. And there will be those old time fans that say: “back in my day the cars were not as safe as today, and the drivers drove them anyway!”

In other words…”get in a drive the f’n car, I paid my hundred bucks to see you race, so race.”

455 ObserverArt  May 19, 2015 9:41:09am

re: #447 freetoken

I’ve previously wondered if Entomologists were some subversive Muslim plotters, just waiting to sneak in some suicidal beetles to destroy America.

Beware the beetles.

Heh. There were many that were worried about The Beatles back in the early 60s. It was going to be the end of the world then too.

/

456 lawhawk  May 19, 2015 9:45:27am

Lovely.

Staten Island police and school officials have been dealing with a wave of bomb threats called in to borough schools. 4 high schools have been evacuated, and one, Susan Wager, has been evacuated 3 times in a week over threats called in.

In the apparent continuation of a disturbing trend, a wave of threats made to four high schools on Staten Island have sparked a series of evacuations Tuesday morning.

For the third time in a week and second time in as many days, Susan Wagner was evacuated at about 10 a.m. Tuesday morning.

Curtis High School was also evacuated at the roughly the same time, with students there being led to the football field.

A police spokeswoman confirmed both schools were evacuated after bomb threats were received Tuesday.

Concord High School and McKee High School also were evacuated, police said.

Students at all four schools were back in school by noon.

These evacuations cost significant amounts of manpower to clear the schools and lost classroom time.

Not much difference between this and swatting.

457 wrenchwench  May 19, 2015 9:46:18am

re: #447 freetoken

I’ve previously wondered if Entomologists were some subversive Muslim plotters, just waiting to sneak in some suicidal beetles to destroy America.

Beware the beetles.

458 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 9:47:49am

Also happening in Louisiana legislature today:

They need a law to stop hospitals from charging rape victims???

459 freetoken  May 19, 2015 9:49:02am

Mullah Mohler warned us last week, in celebrating none other than Edwin Meese:

The Gathering Storm: The Eclipse of Religious Liberty and the Threat of a New Dark Age

[…]

Speaking thirty years ago, Attorney General Meese warned that “there are ideas which have gained influence in some parts of our society, particularly in some important and sophisticated areas that are opposed to religious freedom and freedom in general. In some areas there are some people that have espoused a hostility to religion that must be recognized for what it is, and expressly countered.”

Those were prophetic words, prescient in their clarity and foresight. The ideas of which Mr. Meese warned have only gained ground in the last thirty years, and now with astounding velocity. A revolution in morality now seeks not only to subvert marriage, but also to redefine it, and thus to undermine an essential foundation of human dignity, flourishing, and freedom.

Religious liberty is under direct threat. Just days ago the Solicitor General of the United States served notice before the Supreme Court that the liberties of religious institutions will be an open and unavoidable question. Already, religious liberty is threatened by a new moral regime that exalts erotic liberty and personal autonomy and openly argues that religious liberties must give way to the new morality, its redefinition of marriage, and its demand for coercive moral, cultural, and legal sovereignty.

[…]

EROTIC LIBERTY!!

460 freetoken  May 19, 2015 9:51:28am

Beware the erotic liberty… as well as the beetles.

461 wrenchwench  May 19, 2015 9:53:13am
462 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2015 9:53:50am

re: #459 freetoken

Mullah Mohler warned us last week, in celebrating none other than Edwin Meese:

The Gathering Storm: The Eclipse of Religious Liberty and the Threat of a New Dark Age

EROTIC LIBERTY!!

I’ve lived long enough to see Ed Meese being quoted as a moral authority—now where did I put that cyanide…?

463 WhatEVs  May 19, 2015 9:56:30am

re: #462 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve lived long enough to see Ed Meese being quoted as a moral authority—now where did I put that cyanide…?

No shit. I’d upding that 100x if I could.

464 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 9:58:33am

re: #463 WhatEVs

No shit. I’d upding that 100x if I could.

I will contact Charles directly and suggest a “mega-upding” function that you could use, say, once a week, that is worth 10x or more foir those real zinger posts.

465 Dr Lizardo  May 19, 2015 10:00:59am

re: #462 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve lived long enough to see Ed Meese being quoted as a moral authority—now where did I put that cyanide…?

Summon the meteors.

466 freetoken  May 19, 2015 10:01:18am

Even the anti-707 folk are trying to turn this into a camp meeting.

467 ObserverArt  May 19, 2015 10:08:46am

re: #462 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve lived long enough to see Ed Meese being quoted as a moral authority—now where did I put that cyanide…?

Spot on comment.

I always thought Meese and his stupid report on the effects of pornography on society was the beginning of tying religious BS into government to titillate the needs of the burgeoning Jesus freak movement that had been growing in the 70s.

Sadly, we are all seeing the effects of fundamentalist religious types on our society.

468 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  May 19, 2015 10:12:45am

re: #467 ObserverArt

Spot on comment.

I always thought Meese and his stupid report on the effects of pornography on society was the beginning of tying religious BS into government to titillate the needs of the burgeoning Jesus freak movement that had been growing in the 70s.

Sadly, we are all seeing the effects of fundamentalist religious types on our society.

That has been their goal ever since Ronald Reagan cast the religious right aside as soon as Nancy’s house astrologer told them the time was portentious.

They have been instigating their people into all levels of government, education, politics and administration. They have made fewer inroads into arts and entertainment, but are doing well at a state and local level. You see it in all the anti-abortion, anti LGBT and “religious freedom” bills that have come out of state legislatures in recent years.

469 blueraven  May 19, 2015 10:15:57am

Local control…Republican hypocrisy, once again. It is nothing more than a talking point.

Texas Governor Signs Bill That Makes Local Fracking Bans Illegal

On Monday, Texas governor Greg Abbott signed legislation that prohibits cities across Texas from banning hydraulic fracturing from their home turf. In what was a major agenda item for Texas lawmakers this session, towns like Denton, Texas — which passed the state’s first local fracking ban last November — will no longer be able to exercise local control over the oil and gas industry when it comes to nearby extraction.

The law will take effect immediately as it passed both chambers by more than a two-thirds margin. Communities will now only be able to impose ordinances that regulate aboveground activity related to oil and gas operations, such as things relating to traffic, noise, lights, or “reasonable setback requirements,” which dictate how far away drilling must be from buildings. The law is meant to ensure that these local surface regulations are commercially reasonable and do not “effectively” prohibit oil and gas operations.

In signing the bill, Gov. Abbott said it “does a profound job of helping to protect private property rights here in the State of Texas, ensuring those who own their own property will not have the heavy hand of local regulation deprive them of their rights.”

Many opposed to the bill found this type of rhetoric hypocritical, especially for a state with such a strong foundation in limited government oversight and local property rights.

470 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 10:16:16am

re: #459 freetoken

Mullah Mohler warned us last week, in celebrating none other than Edwin Meese:

The Gathering Storm: The Eclipse of Religious Liberty and the Threat of a New Dark Age

EROTIC LIBERTY!!

The Framers died to protect our Erotic Liberty.

471 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 10:16:33am

They can have my Erotic Liberty when they pry it….

472 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 10:17:21am

re: #469 blueraven

Local control…Republican hypocrisy, once again. It is nothing more than a talking point.

Texas Governor Signs Bill That Makes Local Fracking Bans Illegal

Local governmental control, closest to the people is always best….except in this little case here.

//

473 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2015 10:17:45am

re: #470 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The Framers died to protect our Erotic Liberty.

Well, Ben Franklin, maybe.

474 freetoken  May 19, 2015 10:18:03am

The current questioner, who is examining the sponsor on the witness table, is doing a good job exposing the bill as having detrimental side effects.

475 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 10:18:22am

re: #459 freetoken

Wasn’t the Dark Age a time when religion had too much authority?

History is hard.

476 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 10:19:22am

re: #474 freetoken

The current questioner, who is examining the sponsor on the witness table, is doing a good job exposing the bill as having detrimental side effects.

They’re letting liberal Democrat Party legislators ask questions?

Cut off his mic!!!111

477 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 10:20:13am

re: #469 blueraven

the heavy hand of local regulation deprive them of their rights.”

HEAVY HAND OF LOCAL REGULATION!!!!!!!11

478 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2015 10:20:22am

Idle threat from me about the cyanide anyway. I spent 8 years saying: “Man, I thought I hated Nixon—but how much would you give to have Nixon back right now?”

If I didn’t kill myself then….

479 freetoken  May 19, 2015 10:21:15am

re: #476 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

He sounds like a good ol’ boy, who is raising some good questions nevertheless.

For example, a state employed doctor who exercised his religious conscious and didn’t treat a gay person, who was later sued for malpractice… yes, the state then has to pay that.

One of several examples.

480 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2015 10:21:24am

re: #477 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

HEAVY HAND OF LOCAL REGULATION!!!!!!!11

Small towns are easier to drown in the bathtub.

481 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 10:21:38am

re: #459 freetoken

Already, religious liberty is threatened by a new moral regime that exalts erotic liberty and personal autonomy

“personal autonomy”, i.e., you know, Liberty, Freedom.

482 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2015 10:22:54am

re: #481 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

“personal autonomy”, i.e., you know, Liberty, Freedom.

No, autonomy is looking at cars through a telescope. Don’t you loony libs know nothing?

483 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 10:23:33am

re: #459 freetoken

liberties of religious institutions will be an open and unavoidable question

Like bake shops, for-profit hobby stores.

/

484 Targetpractice  May 19, 2015 10:24:10am

re: #469 blueraven

Local control…Republican hypocrisy, once again. It is nothing more than a talking point.

Texas Governor Signs Bill That Makes Local Fracking Bans Illegal

It’s why I always laugh my ass off when a wingnut natters on about “local control.” They love “local control” right up until the local government does something they don’t like, then they appeal to the next level of government to strip the local one of the ability to pass laws that the locals don’t like.

485 lawhawk  May 19, 2015 10:24:25am

The Mrs has informed me that the concert we’re going to next week will be both The Who (which I knew beforehand) and Joan Jett & the Blackhearts. Woot!

So, if I come in the next day and AM TYPING IN ALL CAPS, YOU’LL KNOW WHY!

Because the show will be epic and awesome.

486 EPR-radar  May 19, 2015 10:24:48am

re: #459 freetoken

Mullah Mohler warned us last week, in celebrating none other than Edwin Meese:

The Gathering Storm: The Eclipse of Religious Liberty and the Threat of a New Dark Age

EROTIC LIBERTY!!

‘Mullah Mohler’ is somewhat unfair terminology. It is unfair to the mullahs that aren’t theocrats like Mohler.

487 freetoken  May 19, 2015 10:27:05am

Chair is trying to punt by putting the bill back on the calendar.

488 freetoken  May 19, 2015 10:27:43am

re: #486 EPR-radar

‘Mullah Mohler’ is somewhat unfair terminology. It is unfair to the mullahs that aren’t theocrats like Mohler.

Well, saying “Dr.” Mohler is unfair to the other doctorate holders.

489 Lidane  May 19, 2015 10:28:01am

re: #484 Targetpractice

They love “local control” right up until the local government does something they don’t like, then they appeal to the next level of government to strip the local one of the ability to pass laws that the locals don’t like.

Case in point - plastic bag bans in local cities.

When Austin passed a bag ban, the same goobers who babble about “local control” started whining about having to take their own shopping bags when they go to the grocery store, so they started trying to write laws to prevent cities from passing laws banning plastic shopping bags.

490 freetoken  May 19, 2015 10:28:14am

Punted.

491 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2015 10:28:17am

re: #469 blueraven

Local control…Republican hypocrisy, once again. It is nothing more than a talking point.

Texas Governor Signs Bill That Makes Local Fracking Bans Illegal

States’ Rights only applies one level down below the Federal government. Beyond that the general principles stop working due to something something.
//

492 Feline Fearless Leader  May 19, 2015 10:28:41am

re: #470 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The Framers died to protect our Erotic Liberty.

Ben Franklin was a big fan of it.

493 wrenchwench  May 19, 2015 10:28:45am
494 freetoken  May 19, 2015 10:29:19am

re: #492 Feline Fearless Leader

Ben Franklin was a big fan of it.

So was Thomas Jefferson… at least when it came to black females.

495 freetoken  May 19, 2015 10:30:18am

The chairman basically said it was now an optics issue (without using that phrase) and got all but the sponsor and one other to punt.

496 blueraven  May 19, 2015 10:30:52am

re: #477 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

HEAVY HAND OF LOCAL REGULATION!!!!!!!11

In Texas local control is king until, Oil and Gas. Property rights are sacred until, you know, TX sports stadium needs to use Eminent domain process.

497 lawhawk  May 19, 2015 10:30:55am

Calling for a truce? Seriously? These are OMGs (by the DOJ classification), and are engaging in criminal enterprises, including smuggling and drug running. Members engage in assaults, robberies, and murder, but the police are calling for a truce?

If the skin pigment were a little different, the state and local police would have sent in the armored vehicles, engaging in curfews, and would have vowed to continue the curfew until such time as those involved in the criminality were in custody.

It’s hard not to see how this is not like Baltimore, or Ferguson before it, even though the death toll is so much higher (with comparable arrest numbers, but much higher weapons seized in Waco).

498 Targetpractice  May 19, 2015 10:31:36am

re: #489 Lidane

Case in point - plastic bag bans in local cities.

When Austin passed a bag ban, the same goobers who babble about “local control” started whining about having to take their own shopping bags when they go to the grocery store, so they started trying to write laws to prevent cities from passing laws banning plastic shopping bags.

I was going to say sanctuary cities, as in the wingnuts absolute hatred of them and endless screeching about how they’re violating federal immigration laws. If ever the Feds cracked down on a sanctuary city, you can be sure that the wingnuts would be there to cheer on the Feds.

499 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 10:31:47am

re: #487 freetoken

I don’t get it; don’t these people pushing it already have all the religion they can handle? I imagine it’s the spillover from their own saturation they’re trying to graft on the rest.

After all, their right to practice their own religion in embedded in the Constitution. They just want to rule the rest of us with their erroneous interpretation of the law.

500 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2015 10:33:01am

re: #497 lawhawk

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Calling for a truce? Seriously? These are OMGs (by the DOJ classification), and are engaging in criminal enterprises, including smuggling and drug running. Members engage in assaults, robberies, and murder, but the police are calling for a truce?

If the skin pigment were a little different, the state and local police would have sent in the armored vehicles, engaging in curfews, and would have vowed to continue the curfew until such time as those involved in the criminality were in custody.

It’s hard not to see how this is not like Baltimore, or Ferguson before it, even though the death toll is so much higher (with comparable arrest numbers, but much higher weapons seized in Waco).

Isn’t the second from the right, upper row George Zimmerman? //

501 Lord Of The Pies  May 19, 2015 10:33:13am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY
This is even stupider than wingnuts pretending MLK was a Republican
MALCOLM WAS A SOCIALIST YOU ASSHATS

502 freetoken  May 19, 2015 10:33:46am

re: #497 lawhawk

Well, three of them look a bit brown-ish…

Seriously, I think this is a clear case of the local law enforcement just not being up to the task, or else it wouldn’t have gotten as far as it did. Those gangs knew they could do what they did there because no doubt they have done other stuff with impunity in that and surrounding communities.

503 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 10:33:48am
504 wrenchwench  May 19, 2015 10:34:49am

Maybe I follow too many naturalists:

505 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 10:37:28am

re: #497 lawhawk

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Calling for a truce? Seriously? These are OMGs (by the DOJ classification), and are engaging in criminal enterprises, including smuggling and drug running. Members engage in assaults, robberies, and murder, but the police are calling for a truce?

If the skin pigment were a little different, the state and local police would have sent in the armored vehicles, engaging in curfews, and would have vowed to continue the curfew until such time as those involved in the criminality were in custody.

It’s hard not to see how this is not like Baltimore, or Ferguson before it, even though the death toll is so much higher (with comparable arrest numbers, but much higher weapons seized in Waco).

Yes, suggesting a truce between Bandidos and Cossacks is laughable, to say the least. That word is not in their vocabulary.
Apparently there were five “clubs” involved. Just looking at the mugshots (and knowing what I know about the “clubs”), I’d bet I would have a pretty good accuracy rate at identifying each one’s gang membership.

506 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 10:39:34am

re: #497 lawhawk

No, I don’t think this is like Baltimore or Ferguson at all. You can’t compare the kind of petty crimes (w/the exception of the one fire in Baltimore) to the kind of organized felonious crimes the bikers indulge in and get away with on a daily basis.

After all, none of the bikers are ever discriminated against because of their race. Unless you can count flauting the law continuously as discrimination.

507 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 10:43:11am

re: #502 freetoken

Well, three of them look a bit brown-ish…

Vaqueros MC.

508 allegro  May 19, 2015 10:45:14am

re: #506 Justanotherhuman

No, I don’t think this is like Baltimore or Ferguson at all. You can’t compare the kind of petty crimes (w/the exception of the one fire in Baltimore) to the kind of organized felonious crimes the bikers indulge in and get away with on a daily basis.

After all, none of the bikers are ever discriminated against because of their race. Unless you can count flauting the law continuously as discrimination.

These gangs are organized, armed, and dangerous. Not so easily bullied.

Therein lies the difference.

509 makeitstop  May 19, 2015 10:50:51am

re: #485 lawhawk

The Mrs has informed me that the concert we’re going to next week will be both The Who (which I knew beforehand) and Joan Jett & the Blackhearts. Woot!

So, if I come in the next day and AM TYPING IN ALL CAPS, YOU’LL KNOW WHY!

Because the show will be epic and awesome.

I’m going to see Clutch and Mastodon in Central Park tonight.

Neither of them are Who-scale, but the volume levels threaten to be roughly equivalent.

510 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  May 19, 2015 10:50:56am

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

That sounds…surprising. Isn’t Jindal all about this?

511 Justanotherhuman  May 19, 2015 10:51:52am

re: #508 allegro

Yes, I know; but what I’m saying is there is no fundamental sameness to Baltimore and Ferguson.

Pretty obvious when white criminals can consistently get away with org crime and a Black mother is hit with high fines for crossing in the middle of the st.

512 Eventual Carrion  May 19, 2015 10:54:21am

re: #485 lawhawk

The Mrs has informed me that the concert we’re going to next week will be both The Who (which I knew beforehand) and Joan Jett & the Blackhearts. Woot!

So, if I come in the next day and AM TYPING IN ALL CAPS, YOU’LL KNOW WHY!

Because the show will be epic and awesome.

Wife and I have to find a show to go to in July. We have tickets for shows in June (Rob Thomas), August (James Taylor), and September (Jackson Browne). We wanted to do at least one show a month this summer concert season. Maybe a weekend festival in July.

513 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2015 11:18:32am

re: #511 Justanotherhuman

Yes, I know; but what I’m saying is there is no fundamental sameness to Baltimore and Ferguson.

Pretty obvious when white criminals can consistently get away with org crime and a Black mother is hit with high fines for crossing in the middle of the st.

If the motorcycle “clubs” were essentially mostly black/brown (and yes, there are some), the subsequent response would have been completely different.

514 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 19, 2015 11:37:15am

re: #489 Lidane

Case in point - plastic bag bans in local cities.

When Austin passed a bag ban, the same goobers who babble about “local control” started whining about having to take their own shopping bags when they go to the grocery store, so they started trying to write laws to prevent cities from passing laws banning plastic shopping bags.

Here’s Texas touting the benefits of local control when it comes to labor while out of the other side of its mouth it’s decrying local control when it comes to fracking. The majority of Texas voters will see no problem with that.

515 Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)  May 19, 2015 9:33:28pm

re: #367 Lord Of The Pies

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In reality, feminists were, for a long time, the only people talking about abuses of women in the Middle East, while conservatives laughed at them.

516 CriticalDragon1177  May 19, 2015 9:40:19pm

re: #501 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY
This is even stupider than wingnuts pretending MLK was a Republican
MALCOLM WAS A SOCIALIST YOU ASSHATS


Even more importantly by far, he’s not talking about twenty first century Democrats. He didn’t live to see the twenty first century and the Democratic party when he was alive was hardly the same as the Democratic party of today. The Republican party was also radically different when he was alive.


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