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1 Kid A  May 21, 2015 2:47:48pm

Not one of them will be found guilty. Not one.

2 Targetpractice  May 21, 2015 2:48:13pm

If the Freepers are any indication, this won’t be seen as vindication by wingnuts, it’ll be seen as further proof that the system is “railroading” these cops. Already I’m hearing about how it “rubber stamped” these indictments for her, questions about the racial make-up of it, and (of course) continued assertions that the charges will be thrown out at trial and the cops exonerated.

3 Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2015 2:49:55pm

“It can;t be racism! Three of them are black!”

4 Decatur Deb  May 21, 2015 2:52:49pm

Off to our annual Habitat dinner. We’re celebrating 25 years and 125 houses. That’s not the real answer to poverty, racism, and community disintegration. But it helps.

5 EmmaAnne  May 21, 2015 2:52:58pm

re: #1 Kid A

Not one of them will be found guilty. Not one.

Depends on the jury. Hopefully the trial won’t be moved to a white-flight suburb (like Simi Valley).

6 wrenchwench  May 21, 2015 2:53:35pm

OMG

7 Charles Johnson  May 21, 2015 2:53:42pm

re: #1 Kid A

Not one of them will be found guilty. Not one.

Maybe not, but this is farther than most police brutality cases ever get. We’ll see.

8 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2015 2:57:54pm

re: #1 Kid A

I think at trial, when all the evidence is presented, it will be pretty clear that those cops acted outside of their authority of care of a prisoner and caused his death. I’m pretty miffed that the Lt, Brian Rice, was not charged with something more serious, though, since he was the direct supervisor. Of course, there will probably be some kind of plea dealing, so I don’t expect any of them to get more than 10 yrs, less if they plead guilty. At least, that’s what I’m hoping.

9 Targetpractice  May 21, 2015 2:58:15pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Maybe not, but this is farther than most police brutality cases ever get. We’ll see.

Indeed, the old snark about a “ham sandwich” ignores the reality that a DA has to want the ham sandwich indicted in order it to happen. We already saw in the Brown, Garner, and Crawford cases that a prosecutor who doesn’t want to see cops indicted can manipulate the system to that end. That Mrs. Mosby wants to see this go to trial, even if one accuses her of doing so for the wrong reasons, is a change. We need more DAs in this country who are willing to take the risk of damaging their relationship with the police in order to see justice done.

10 Nyet  May 21, 2015 2:59:45pm

re: #1 Kid A

Not one of them will be found guilty. Not one.

50% of them will be found guilty. Guess which ones. //

11 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2015 3:00:29pm

re: #1 Kid A

Not one of them will be found guilty. Not one.

I see plea deals in the making. They are going to try to get the cops with the lesser charges to roll on the ones with manslaughter charges.

12 Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2015 3:07:20pm

re: #1 Kid A

Not one of them will be found guilty. Not one.

I wouldn’t be too sure of that. Baltimore is a majority Black city. Depends on the jury makeup.

13 unproven innocence  May 21, 2015 3:08:00pm

A Baltimore Sun story from yesterday:
Video spotlights Freddie Gray at Baker and Mount streets

14 Targetpractice  May 21, 2015 3:08:48pm

re: #12 Patricia Kayden

I wouldn’t be too sure of that. Baltimore is a majority Black city. Depends on the jury makeup.

Which is why I suspect right now the FOP attorneys for these folks will be hammering out motion after motion, topped by a call for a change of venue. Gotta get this moved out to the burbs, where the white folks are plentiful, because if they leave it in Baltimore than the cops can’t get a “fair” trial.

15 Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2015 3:19:19pm

You should see the Fox news comments on the Josh Duggar story…most of them supporting him.

16 Lumberhead  May 21, 2015 3:19:50pm

Watch for the hypocrites that pointed to the grand jury as vindication in Ferguson.

17 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2015 3:23:38pm

This one is very sad. Police were attempting to serve a warrant on the shooter when he fired 3 shots at this female officer.

OPD Officer Kerrie Orozco, Suspect Killed In Shootout

wowt.com

wowt.com

18 stpaulbear  May 21, 2015 3:26:42pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

You should see the Fox news comments on the Josh Duggar story…most of them supporting him.

Do they realize that his own dad first turned him in to the police?

19 wrenchwench  May 21, 2015 3:27:15pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

You should see the Fox news comments on the Josh Duggar story…most of them supporting him.

20 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2015 3:28:04pm

re: #18 stpaulbear

Do they realize that his own dad first turned him in to the police?

Doubt it. Has to be a victim of the left. This is actually really sad. I mean I can’t stand the Duggars but this honestly does surprise me.

21 thecommodore  May 21, 2015 3:28:07pm

A sampling of Breitbart comments on a brief story about the indictments:

blacks will be surprised that there are 3 of 6 blacks indicted. If the blacks get prosecuted, blacks will probably riot because of that too. racist judicial system!!! Ima get me some free TP at the local CVS!

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Prediction: 3 will be convicted and sentenced heavily and 3 will go free.

You guess which 3 are which…

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Lemme guess… the 3 who “cannot be racist because they’re not white” and because, “white privilege”..

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You are exactly right. When interviewed, some of the protesters were, in fact, taken aback by the fact that three of the officers were black. Some tried to explain it away.

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You can indict a ham sandwich. That doesn’t mean it’s guilty. What this tactic by the left is is to destroy any good record these police had AS A WARNING to other cops to back off doing their jobs….especially with blacks.

22 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2015 3:28:36pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

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Watch them run away from him or failing that claim he’s a victim.

23 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2015 3:29:27pm

re: #21 thecommodore

A sampling of Breitbart comments on a brief story about the indictments:

Lol yeah indictments are so easy. That explains why Darren Wilson was indicted. Oh wait. The Breitbrats are just upset that we may see justice in this case.

24 wrenchwench  May 21, 2015 3:29:28pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

Watch them run away from him or failing that claim he’s a victim.

Evil women out to silence a Christian!

25 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2015 3:30:08pm

re: #24 wrenchwench

Evil women out to silence a Christian!

SHE WAS ASKING FOR IT.//

26 Targetpractice  May 21, 2015 3:31:10pm

re: #21 thecommodore

A sampling of Breitbart comments on a brief story about the indictments:

If anybody seems to be obsessing over race here, it is white wingnuts who are trying like mad to suggest that even one black cop being involved means it couldn’t have been racial and thus there was no crime.

27 The Ghost of a Flea  May 21, 2015 3:34:46pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

You should see the Fox news comments on the Josh Duggar story…most of them supporting him.

Having read more than one story about this today, I’m considering taking a year off from work and devoting myself to screaming until hoarse in a lightless room.

28 #FergusonFireside  May 21, 2015 3:37:42pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

You should see the Fox news comments on the Josh Duggar story…most of them supporting him.

Whoa.

Apparently one of his sisters/victims has petitioned the court to destroy the records and they are complying.

29 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2015 3:40:15pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

You should see these weasely words from the Duggars.

people.com

30 Kragar  May 21, 2015 3:40:24pm
31 #FergusonFireside  May 21, 2015 3:40:47pm

Josh just confessed to teenage misbehavior & resigned from the Family Research Council.

See TMZ.

32 Kragar  May 21, 2015 3:40:55pm
33 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2015 3:41:57pm

re: #28 #FergusonFireside

Whoa.

Apparently one of his sisters/victims has petitioned the court to destroy the records and they are complying.

How much did they pay her to do it?

34 goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2015 3:41:57pm

re: #26 Targetpractice

If anybody seems to be obsessing over race here, it is white wingnuts who are trying like mad to suggest that even one black cop being involved means it couldn’t have been racial and thus there was no crime.

A lot of modern racists simply refuse to acknowledge how institutional racism influences the way many black people view themselves / other blacks. Then these same modern apologists will turn around and ask about the black on black rate of violence and victimization with a straight face. The problem is rooted in self deception and denial, many modern racists honestly don’t think of themselves as racist. They’re either so deeply ignorant / avoidant of what their attitudes say about themselves, or they cynically wrap it all up in the smarmy notion of being “realists.” They’re so invested in their own place within society that have to reject any suggestion that racism is largely rooted in a greater sociological pathology.

35 stpaulbear  May 21, 2015 3:41:58pm

Josh Duggar can rot in hell. The Duggar family put a lot of money into taking away GLBT rights in Fayetteville AK.

Voters in Fayetteville, Ark., repealed a nondiscrimination ordinance Tuesday, less than four months after the City Council overwhelmingly approved the law that protected LGBT and other residents from discrimination in housing, employment, and public accommodations.

Josh Duggar, the oldest of the titular offspring, joined the staff of certified anti-LGBT hate group the Family Research Council’s legislative arm, FRC Action, last summer. After results from the Fayetteville special election arrived, Duggar tweeted a message that is, presumably, free of any intentional irony, though LGBT residents of Fayetteville might disagree:

36 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2015 3:43:24pm

re: #35 stpaulbear

It’s all OK if you’re a Duggar. /////

37 stpaulbear  May 21, 2015 3:46:48pm

re: #36 Justanotherhuman

It’s all OK if you’re a Duggar. /////

I mean, really. Josh Duggar can Rot. In. Hell.

I hope their show gets shut down as of yesterday.

38 The Ghost of a Flea  May 21, 2015 3:49:55pm

re: #36 Justanotherhuman

It’s all OK if you’re a Duggar. /////

Any time an organization starts out with the premise of “don’t question the big adult man, because he’s naturally in charge,” this kind of shit is sure to come out in the wash.

39 The Ghost of a Flea  May 21, 2015 3:50:40pm

re: #38 The Ghost of a Flea

Chekov’s Gun.

40 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2015 3:53:14pm

re: #38 The Ghost of a Flea

Any time an organization starts out with the premise of “don’t question the big adult man, because he’s naturally in charge,” this kind of shit is sure to come out in the wash.

I’m sure Daddy told him he was cock of the walk, just like him, as he was growing up.

41 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2015 3:55:21pm

Federal judge expands Alabama marriage ruling statewide; puts order on hold until the Supreme Court ruling - @chrisgeidner
read more on buzzfeed.com

42 allegro  May 21, 2015 3:56:14pm

re: #40 Justanotherhuman

I’m sure Daddy told him he was cock of the walk, just like him, as he was growing up.

Along with the family friend who gave him a stern talking to about it is now serving a 56 year sentence for child pornography. Bet Josh learned loads from him.

43 BeachDem  May 21, 2015 3:56:27pm

re: #32 Kragar

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So when the Duggars do it, it’s “past teen mistakes.” Got it—but hey, he got “counseling” (except it wasn’t counseling) and he’s “humbled himself before God” so I guess everything’s a-ok now.

Spit. Vomit. Ugh.

44 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2015 4:00:49pm

Heh.

Josh Duggar and Ted Cruz
45 allegro  May 21, 2015 4:02:03pm

re: #43 BeachDem

So when the Duggars do it, it’s “past teen mistakes.” Got it—but hey, he got “counseling” (except it wasn’t counseling) and he’s “humbled himself before God” so I guess everything’s a-ok now.

Spit. Vomit. Ugh.

While a little black kid is charged posthumously for victmizing the police officers who murdered him.

46 bratwurst  May 21, 2015 4:02:33pm

Some ideas are too stupid to die…and no, this is not The Onion or Clickhole:

Romney looks strong for 2016

47 The Ghost of a Flea  May 21, 2015 4:03:00pm

re: #40 Justanotherhuman

I’m sure Daddy told him he was cock of the walk, just like him, as he was growing up.

The Duggars are big fans of Gothard’s Basic Life Principles, so the likely takeaway from the situation was that the girls had behaved in some way that tempted the boy.

God, I feel skeevy just typing that.

48 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 21, 2015 4:05:57pm

Am I the only one who thinks that “The Duggars” would make a great title for a Stephen King novel?

49 allegro  May 21, 2015 4:07:29pm

re: #48 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Am I the only one who thinks that “The Duggars” would make a great title for a Stephen King novel?

If only they were fictional.

50 stpaulbear  May 21, 2015 4:12:41pm

I’ve been off work for the last two days due to depression symptoms. The news today is just wrecking me. I need to mow the grass (like, a couple days ago) but it’s been impossible to get myself out of the house.

I do have a shrink. I see him every tuesday. I’m in the FMLA program at work so I won’t get fired for the time off. Long term depression is a bitch.

51 BeachDem  May 21, 2015 4:14:05pm

re: #45 allegro

While a little black kid is charged posthumously for victmizing the police officers who murdered him.

And then there’s this little 11-year-old boy charged with felony assault (Guess he didn’t love Jeebus as much as the Duggars)

During what was a difficult day for him, he kicked a trashcan at his middle school. A school resource officer saw him and filed a disorderly conduct charge in juvenile court against the then 11-year-old boy.

Two weeks later, Kayleb was told to wait while other kids left class but disobeyed. When the same officer grabbed Kayleb to bring him to the principal’s office, Kayleb says he tried to push away but the officer “slammed me down and then handcuffed me.” The officer then charged him with felony assault against a police officer and another charge of disorderly conduct.

change.org

52 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2015 4:14:35pm

re: #47 The Ghost of a Flea

I think that’s called obstruction of justice.

53 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2015 4:15:10pm

re: #44 Justanotherhuman

Heh.

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Bet Teddy throws them under the bus in a heartbeat.

54 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2015 4:16:48pm

re: #53 Bubblehead II

Bet Teddy throws them under the bus in a heartbeat.

His Daddy won’t let him.

55 Kragar  May 21, 2015 4:17:32pm

A continuation of an earlier discussion:

56 allegro  May 21, 2015 4:18:10pm

re: #51 BeachDem

And then there’s this little 11-year-old boy charged with felony assault (Guess he didn’t love Jeebus as much as the Duggars)

During what was a difficult day for him, he kicked a trashcan at his middle school. A school resource officer saw him and filed a disorderly conduct charge in juvenile court against the then 11-year-old boy.

Two weeks later, Kayleb was told to wait while other kids left class but disobeyed. When the same officer grabbed Kayleb to bring him to the principal’s office, Kayleb says he tried to push away but the officer “slammed me down and then handcuffed me.” The officer then charged him with felony assault against a police officer and another charge of disorderly conduct.

change.org

Oh FFS what is wrong with those assholes. And he works in a school?

57 wrenchwench  May 21, 2015 4:23:00pm

re: #50 stpaulbear

I’ve been off work for the last two days due to depression symptoms. The news today is just wrecking me. I need to mow the grass (like, a couple days ago) but it’s been impossible to get myself out of the house.

I do have a shrink. I see him every tuesday. I’m in the FMLA program at work so I won’t get fired for the time off. Long term depression is a bitch.

Take good care of yourself!

58 BeachDem  May 21, 2015 4:29:57pm

Some of the comments on the People article (read at your own peril):

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OK—I’m making myself sick here. Wonder what all these fine folks had to say about Trayvon Martin? Tamir Rice? I’d love to see a Venn diagram!

We are doomed.

59 BeachDem  May 21, 2015 4:31:57pm

re: #56 allegro

Oh FFS what is wrong with those assholes. And he works in a school?

This was the article I originally read about it—has other cases as well—it made me sick to my stomach.

pri.org

60 Kragar  May 21, 2015 4:33:06pm
61 Whack-A-Mole  May 21, 2015 4:33:45pm

re: #51 BeachDem

As the parent of a child on the spectrum who has behavioral outbursts, particularly at school, I’ve been following this case closely. My son begins middle school next year and the thought of something like this happening terrifies me.

62 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2015 4:34:23pm

re: #54 Justanotherhuman

His Daddy won’t let him.

Not so sure about that. Biblical incest is one thing. The taint of pedophilia is a bridge to far for even Evangelicals (I hope ).

63 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 21, 2015 4:35:15pm

re: #50 stpaulbear

I’ve been off work for the last two days due to depression symptoms. The news today is just wrecking me. I need to mow the grass (like, a couple days ago) but it’s been impossible to get myself out of the house.

I do have a shrink. I see him every tuesday. I’m in the FMLA program at work so I won’t get fired for the time off. Long term depression is a bitch.

You have my sympathy. Chronic depressive here.

64 Jenner7  May 21, 2015 4:35:17pm
65 Kragar  May 21, 2015 4:36:19pm
66 Jenner7  May 21, 2015 4:39:41pm

Something like this happened in my neighborhood, by my next door neighbor who played with my kids. He was only 12. It was reported and his parents were oblivious. Not sure if he got the help he needed, but they moved early this year. The whole neighborhood signed with relief. He’s been trouble since we moved here.

Of course, after this incident, my kids were not allowed to play with him any more. But they still had school together and was in my daughter’s class.

I really hope he got the help he needed and will contribute to society. But…I doubt it. I for see many problems ahead for this kid.

67 Kragar  May 21, 2015 4:41:47pm
68 Mike Lamb  May 21, 2015 4:42:26pm

re: #21 thecommodore

Severing someone’s spine is “doing their job”? I mean, what? Let’s assume for a second that the cops aren’t guilty of murder or assault…how in the world can you argue that this was proper procedure?

69 #FergusonFireside  May 21, 2015 4:42:56pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

If the Freepers are any indication, this won’t be seen as vindication by wingnuts, it’ll be seen as further proof that the system is “railroading” these cops. Already I’m hearing about how it “rubber stamped” these indictments for her, questions about the racial make-up of it, and (of course) continued assertions that the charges will be thrown out at trial and the cops exonerated.

They justify killing so easily. Oh, black.

70 BeachDem  May 21, 2015 4:43:38pm

re: #61 Whack-A-Mole

As the parent of a child on the spectrum who has behavioral outbursts, particularly at school, I’ve been following this case closely. My son begins middle school next year and the thought of something like this happening terrifies me.

I wish good things for you and your son. That story had me in tears the first time I read it—so sad, so unfair. What is wrong with people.

71 William Lewis  May 21, 2015 4:44:00pm

re: #61 Whack-A-Mole

As the parent of a child on the spectrum who has behavioral outbursts, particularly at school, I’ve been following this case closely. My son begins middle school next year and the thought of something like this happening terrifies me.

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72 #FergusonFireside  May 21, 2015 4:46:50pm

re: #71 William Lewis

Strength to you William.

73 Dave In Austin  May 21, 2015 4:48:56pm
74 Bear  May 21, 2015 4:53:03pm

re: #73 Dave In Austin

If that was a painting it should sell for tons of cash.

75 Sionainn  May 21, 2015 4:53:07pm

re: #73 Dave In Austin

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Those are the infamous Pancake mushrooms. They are perfectly fine to eat when they look like a pancake (particularly delicious when they are the silver dollar size), but the ones that have gone wonky are deadly.

76 Kryptik  May 21, 2015 4:55:35pm

re: #58 BeachDem

Being white and “Christian” in this country means you are instantly absolved of near everything under the idea of ‘childhood indiscretions’ and ‘praying for god’s guidance’. Meanwhile, you can be brown and killed by police, without provocation, and people will continue to invent reasons not only why you deserved to die, but why your very existence victimized your killers.

This country is incurably racist to its fucking core, among so many other things. The Duggars are already branded as “good people”, they could mass kill the population of a small store and people would still manage to make excuses for them because they’re ‘good people’ (read: the right kind of “people”). It’s the other end of the Calvinistic impetus in America: people like the Duggars can almost never be seen as doing “bad” because they are “good people”, therefore anything they do cannot be “bad”.

77 Bubblehead II  May 21, 2015 4:56:31pm

This is the problem of all Male dominated religions. Females are property. I don’t give a damn if it’s the United States or the UAE. Females are property. I don’t care if it’s Christian, Jewish or Muslim. Females are property to be used and and disposed of at the male whims. THIS MUST END! NOW!

78 #FergusonFireside  May 21, 2015 4:57:15pm

re: #75 Sionainn

Those are the infamous Pancake mushrooms. They are perfectly fine to eat when they look like a pancake (particularly delicious when they are the silver dollar size), but the ones that have gone wonky are deadly.

Reassuring.

79 HappyWarrior  May 21, 2015 4:58:09pm

re: #51 BeachDem

And then there’s this little 11-year-old boy charged with felony assault (Guess he didn’t love Jeebus as much as the Duggars)

During what was a difficult day for him, he kicked a trashcan at his middle school. A school resource officer saw him and filed a disorderly conduct charge in juvenile court against the then 11-year-old boy.

Two weeks later, Kayleb was told to wait while other kids left class but disobeyed. When the same officer grabbed Kayleb to bring him to the principal’s office, Kayleb says he tried to push away but the officer “slammed me down and then handcuffed me.” The officer then charged him with felony assault against a police officer and another charge of disorderly conduct.

change.org

I read about this kid’s case before. Heartbreaking.

80 #FergusonFireside  May 21, 2015 4:59:42pm

re: #76 Kryptik

Plus, ALL is forgiven. For them.

81 b_sharp  May 21, 2015 5:03:13pm

re: #50 stpaulbear

I’ve been off work for the last two days due to depression symptoms. The news today is just wrecking me. I need to mow the grass (like, a couple days ago) but it’s been impossible to get myself out of the house.

I do have a shrink. I see him every tuesday. I’m in the FMLA program at work so I won’t get fired for the time off. Long term depression is a bitch.

I just got over a 3 year long stint where doing anything looked overwhelming. Forcing myself to relate to people around me and to work was a daily thing.

Take care and remember it does eventually reduce to the point where you can function.

82 BeachDem  May 21, 2015 5:03:14pm

re: #80 #FergusonFireside

Plus, ALL is forgiven. For them.

And the money quote from Joshie?

“I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life.”

(But enough about me. How do you feel about how this affected me?)

83 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2015 5:10:28pm

re: #50 stpaulbear

Exercise is a good thing. Even a 15 min brisk walk will help tremendously.

Take it from someone who’s been there.

84 Whack-A-Mole  May 21, 2015 5:13:02pm

re: #71 William Lewis

Private Comment

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85 b_sharp  May 21, 2015 5:14:26pm

re: #83 Justanotherhuman

Exercise is a good thing. Even a 15 min brisk walk will help tremendously.

Take it from someone who’s been there.

Yes. The difficulty is in that first step.

86 #FergusonFireside  May 21, 2015 5:14:31pm

re: #81 b_sharp

:)

87 BeachDem  May 21, 2015 5:15:07pm

I was not familiar with this site, but this is laugh out loud funny. A scene by scene description of FRC “Stand for Marriage” video.

Synopsis: The leader of the socially conservative Family Research Council interrupts his rigorous study of self-righteousness to urge his fellow Adam-and-Evers to oppose legalization of gay marriage before U.S. Christians are rounded up by despotic homosexuals and forced to swear allegiance to Satan.

My favorite scene:
Image: 2423.png

Korean War veteran Wilford Brimley thanked by freedom-loving biker for not being gay in emotional encounter arranged by eight-year-old Chairman of Merrill Lynch

-2:46-

pointlessplanet.com

88 #FergusonFireside  May 21, 2015 5:16:52pm

re: #87 BeachDem

I was not familiar with this site, but this is laugh out loud funny. A scene by scene description of FRC “Stand for Marriage” video.

Synopsis: The leader of the socially conservative Family Research Council interrupts his rigorous study of self-righteousness to urge his fellow Adam-and-Evers to oppose legalization of gay marriage before U.S. Christians are rounded up by despotic homosexuals and forced to swear allegiance to Satan.

My favorite scene:
Image: 2423.png

Korean War veteran Wilford Brimley thanked by freedom-loving biker for not being gay in emotional encounter arranged by eight-year-old Chairman of Merrill Lynch

-2:46-

pointlessplanet.com

Haven’t finished your comment before having to comment in the ‘Adam and Evers’ lol

89 Justanotherhuman  May 21, 2015 5:18:04pm

re: #85 b_sharp

Yes. The difficulty is in that first step.

It is. You just have to tell yourself that you are worth the effort. Just for you.

90 #FergusonFireside  May 21, 2015 5:18:17pm

re: #87 BeachDem

I was not familiar with this site, but this is laugh out loud funny. A scene by scene description of FRC “Stand for Marriage” video.

Synopsis: The leader of the socially conservative Family Research Council interrupts his rigorous study of self-righteousness to urge his fellow Adam-and-Evers to oppose legalization of gay marriage before U.S. Christians are rounded up by despotic homosexuals and forced to swear allegiance to Satan.

My favorite scene:
Image: 2423.png

Korean War veteran Wilford Brimley thanked by freedom-loving biker for not being gay in emotional encounter arranged by eight-year-old Chairman of Merrill Lynch

-2:46-

pointlessplanet.com

Comment 2: Wilford Brimley??!!

91 EPR-radar  May 21, 2015 5:18:33pm

re: #87 BeachDem

All the updings. Another sample:

Once-inspiring national monuments make him uncomfortable now … (photo of Washington Monument)

… and he has to avert his eyes from suggestively pumping oil derricks scattered across his home state of Oklahoma

92 ipsos  May 21, 2015 5:18:35pm

re: #63 Higgs Boson’s Mate

You have my sympathy. Chronic depressive here.

And here too, still trying to get the meds right.

93 BeachDem  May 21, 2015 5:19:22pm

re: #88 #FergusonFireside

Haven’t finished your comment before having to comment in the ‘Adam and Evers’ lol

I can see I’m going to be wasting a whole lot of time there. It is hilarious. Now going through:

Carson “Revival”

Synopsis: After getting the green light from Jesus, cerebral religious conservative hero Dr. Ben Carson shows off his celebrated intellect by starting a presidential campaign given virtually no chance of success with a ponderous, meandering ad in which he barely appears and fails to articulate any coherent rationale for his absurd candidacy.

pointlessplanet.com

I love this stuff!

94 #FergusonFireside  May 21, 2015 5:20:37pm

Ya’ll, we are here for you. You prob can’t imagine, but this community is strong. Exceptionally strong.

95 Romantic Heretic  May 21, 2015 5:20:50pm

re: #50 stpaulbear

I’ve been off work for the last two days due to depression symptoms. The news today is just wrecking me. I need to mow the grass (like, a couple days ago) but it’s been impossible to get myself out of the house.

I do have a shrink. I see him every tuesday. I’m in the FMLA program at work so I won’t get fired for the time off. Long term depression is a bitch.

Been there, done that. Not fun.

Sending strength and positive vibes your way.

96 b.d.  May 21, 2015 5:34:31pm

re: #50 stpaulbear

Wishing you a long lasting peace soon stpaulbear.

97 De Kolta Chair  May 21, 2015 6:27:42pm

re: #87 BeachDem

I was not familiar with this site, but this is laugh out loud funny. A scene by scene description of FRC “Stand for Marriage” video.

That is too funny.

98 Mich-again  May 21, 2015 10:12:49pm

A Grand Jury indictment means leave it up to a jury. That should be the default for any questionable case. For a Grand Jury to not indict is equivalent to an innocent verdict in an actual trial.

99 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 21, 2015 10:18:28pm

re: #98 Mich-again

A Grand Jury indictment means leave it up to a jury. That should be the default for any questionable case. For a Grand Jury to not indict is equivalent to an innocent verdict in an actual trial.

I can agree with your second sentence but that’s about it.

100 Mich-again  May 21, 2015 10:23:03pm

re: #99 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I can agree with your second sentence but that’s about it.

If no charges are filed the result is the same as an innocent verdict.

101 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 21, 2015 10:24:55pm

re: #100 Mich-again

If no charges are filed the result is the same as an innocent verdict.

Not exactly.

In the sense that the suspect is not going to prison, sure.

In the sense that charges could not be brought again with new evidence, no.

Also the influence of the prosecutor is much, much greater on whether charges are brought versus whether a jury returns a guilty verdict.


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