Sociopaths Salivating Over Adult Dating Site Hack

The worst people on the Internet are having a party
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Nearly 4 million people’s very personal information has been exposed to the world, after a hacker broke into the database of Adult FriendFinder in March.

Adult FriendFinder asks customers to detail their interests and, based on those criteria, matches people for sexual encounters. The site, which boasts 64 million members, claims to have “helped millions of people find traditional partners, swinger groups, threesomes, and a variety of other alternative partners.”

The information Adult FriendFinder collects is extremely personal in nature. When signing up for an account, customers must enter their gender, which gender they’re interested in hooking up with and what kind of sexual situations they desire. Suggestions AdultFriendfinder provides for the “tell others about yourself” field include, “I like my partners to tell me what to do in the bedroom,” “I tend to be kinky” and “I’m willing to try some light bondage or blindfolds.”

[…]

Included in the exposed personal information are customers’ email addresses, usernames, passwords, birthdays and zip codes, in addition to their sexual preferences. No credit card data has yet been uncovered as part of the hack.

That data is incredibly revealing and potentially damaging.

Sociopaths all over the Internet are already salivating over this data — including the white supremacist criminal (CNN describes him as “controversial”) known as “weev:”

Andrew Auernheimer, a controversial computer hacker who looked through the files, used Twitter to publicly identify Adult FriendFinder customers, including a Washington police academy commander, an FAA employee, a California state tax worker and a naval intelligence officer who supposedly tried to cheat on his wife.

Asked why he was doing this, Auernheimer said: “I went straight for government employees because they seem the easiest to shame.”

Millions of others remain unnamed for now, but anyone can open the files — which remain freely available online. That could allow anyone to extort Adult FriendFinder customers.

And of course, our sociopathic stalker pal Chuck C. Johnson is ON IT, because he’s utterly obsessed with other people’s sex lives.

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1 lawhawk  May 22, 2015 11:13:11am

So, I’ll say what many of us are actually thinking.

This is probably the first time many of those users actually were screwed via AFF.

Thanks. I’ll be here all weekend.

And of course, Chucky was in the thick of it hoping to dig up dirt. Don’t expect him to find anything that others haven’t already pointed out (that some .gov email addresses and some corporate types were registered - burner emails anyone?!).

2 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 22, 2015 11:14:32am

re: #1 lawhawk

I can’t imagine signing up for a site like that with a real name, esp. given the fact that their security was obviously not all that it should have been.

3 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing  May 22, 2015 11:15:01am

Anyway, now we know why Chuckie hasn’t been on the Duggar beat today. He’s got other fish to stalk.

4 b_sharp  May 22, 2015 11:17:24am

I wonder what Chuckie’s username is on there.

5 Lord Of The Pies  May 22, 2015 11:17:49am

re: #3 Rev_Arthur_Icantbreatheing

Anyway, now we know why Chuckie hasn’t been on the Duggar beat today. He’s got other fish to stalk.

Ben Shapiro is standing in for Chucky

6 b_sharp  May 22, 2015 11:18:26am

re: #5 Lord Of The Pies

Ben Shapiro is standing in for Chucky

I think Ben is jealous.

7 Dr. Matt  May 22, 2015 11:18:31am

re: #4 b_sharp

I wonder what Chuckie’s username is on there.

“Bottom ginger”

8 Lord Of The Pies  May 22, 2015 11:19:04am

re: #7 Dr. Matt

“Bottom ginger”

“Greater Charles Johnson”

9 lawhawk  May 22, 2015 11:20:47am

re: #4 b_sharp

I wonder what Chuckie’s username is on there.

#HotAsianWife

10 Great White Snark  May 22, 2015 11:21:07am

Rules for our time. Everything you put on the internet will be hacked and published. Why even think anything else? Apparently there are no civilian entities that can keep hackers out over time. Not one. Whatever you say or enter in a form, you may was well own it right from the start.

Just wait, Ashley Madison will be up soon. Hacked data, published in the cloud and marital cheaters exposed by the thousands. if you signed up, are you prepared to own it?

11 lawhawk  May 22, 2015 11:21:10am
12 Ace-o-aces  May 22, 2015 11:21:18am
13 GlutenFreeJesus  May 22, 2015 11:21:53am

I bet Bryan Fischer is on there.

14 Lord Of The Pies  May 22, 2015 11:22:49am

re: #13 GlutenFreeJesus

I bet Bryan Fischer is on there.

“Bear Hunter”

15 Lord Of The Pies  May 22, 2015 11:23:06am

Crap I can’t believe these lame excuses.

16 Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2015 11:23:34am

re: #13 GlutenFreeJesus

I bet Bryan Fischer is on there.

Boo-Boo.

17 William Lewis  May 22, 2015 11:26:35am

re: #7 Dr. Matt

“Bottom ginger”

BRAIN BLEACH, STAT!!!!!!!!

18 Targetpractice  May 22, 2015 11:27:20am

re: #11 lawhawk

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They’ll try the A&E approach: Sweat it out until the initial wave of outrage blows over, then quietly reintroduce reruns. But a new season? Yeah, that might be awhile.

19 b_sharp  May 22, 2015 11:28:43am

re: #10 Great White Snark

Rules for our time. Everything you put on the internet will be hacked and published. Why even think anything else? Apparently there are no civilian entities that can keep hackers out over time. Not one. Whatever you say or enter in a form, you may was well own it right from the start.

Just wait, Ashley Madison will be up soon. Hacked data, published in the cloud and marital cheaters exposed by the thousands. if you signed up, are you prepared to own it?

That’s why I used your name and photo.

Haven’t gotten a date yet…

20 Great White Snark  May 22, 2015 11:29:48am

re: #19 b_sharp

That’s why I used your name and photo.

Haven’t gotten a date yet…

My photo? You used the face born for radio.

21 Varek Raith  May 22, 2015 11:30:06am

re: #19 b_sharp

That’s why I used your name and photo.

Haven’t gotten a date yet…

Damn, man.
Just damn.
/
:P

22 b_sharp  May 22, 2015 11:30:07am

re: #13 GlutenFreeJesus

I bet Bryan Fischer is on there.

As ‘FischerOfMen’

23 William Lewis  May 22, 2015 11:30:17am

re: #10 Great White Snark

Rules for our time. Everything you put on the internet will be hacked and published. Why even think anything else? Apparently there are no civilian entities that can keep hackers out over time. Not one. Whatever you say or enter in a form, you may was well own it right from the start.

Just wait, Ashley Madison will be up soon. Hacked data, published in the cloud and marital cheaters exposed by the thousands. if you signed up, are you prepared to own it?

Reminds me of the new Halestorm song “Gonna Get Mine”:

Naked pictures on my telephone
All my secrets that you weren’t supposed to know
But I sleep just fine every single night
Cause I got a film tape that you will never find

And everybody wants to know what I got going on below
And everybody wants to see, but then they’re fucking all of me

24 Feline Fearless Leader  May 22, 2015 11:33:46am

re: #18 Targetpractice

They’ll try the A&E approach: Sweat it out until the initial wave of outrage blows over, then quietly reintroduce reruns. But a new season? Yeah, that might be awhile.

Duggar Dynasty Ducks Honey Boo-Boo issue?
:p

25 Lord Of The Pies  May 22, 2015 11:34:41am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Does anyone remember when this happened? I think they got some powers of 10 fewer than ONE MILLION.

26 Great White Snark  May 22, 2015 11:35:21am

re: #23 William Lewis

Gee I was thinking of a line from Sick Individual, but perhaps that’s too harsh. Consenting adults and all. But honestly I have far less sympathy for the marital cheaters. Not those that have some arrangement or whatever. I mean those who break the solemn promise, risk the family and piss away community property.

Oh yeah yeah yeah
I’m livin’ it up, not giving a what
I’m livin’ it up, not giving a what
I’m livin’ it up, not giving a what
I’m livin’ it up, not giving a what
Sick individual
And I’m doing this thing called whatever the f*** I want

Read more: Halestorm - Sick Individual Lyrics | MetroLyrics

27 allegro  May 22, 2015 11:35:36am

re: #24 Feline Fearless Leader

Duggar Dynasty Ducks Honey Boo-Boo issue?
:p

How ‘bout Boo Boo Duggar Ducks Honey Dynasty?

28 freetoken  May 22, 2015 11:37:23am

re: #27 allegro

A more grammatically correct sentence: “Duggar Honey Ducks Boo Boo Dynasty.”

29 allegro  May 22, 2015 11:38:41am

re: #28 freetoken

A more grammatically correct sentence: “Duggar Honey Ducks Boo Boo Dynasty.”

With this, I cannot argue. ��

30 Charles Johnson  May 22, 2015 11:38:44am
31 Dr. Matt  May 22, 2015 11:38:44am

re: #13 GlutenFreeJesus

I bet Bryan Fischer is on there.

“Twinks_and_Bears_OhMy”

32 Dave In Austin  May 22, 2015 11:38:46am

re: #25 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Does anyone remember when this happened? I think they got some powers of 10 fewer than ONE MILLION.

[Embedded content]

Anyone do a goggle search on that pic? Prolly Sturgis….

33 William Lewis  May 22, 2015 11:39:08am

re: #26 Great White Snark

Yeah, I get what you mean.

Still, I wish a few of these idiots would listen to Amen instead.

34 freetoken  May 22, 2015 11:39:20am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

It’s already gone.

35 Varek Raith  May 22, 2015 11:39:45am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Done.

36 Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2015 11:40:41am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Done.

37 Charles Johnson  May 22, 2015 11:41:53am

re: #34 freetoken

It’s already gone.

No, that “unavailable” message is what you see if you’ve blocked the user or they blocked you. Click the link and you’ll see it.

38 Lord Of The Pies  May 22, 2015 11:41:54am

re: #32 Dave In Austin

Anyone do a goggle search on that pic? Prolly Sturgis….

I somewhat remember the day it took place TCOT was Tweeting photos of Sturgis claiming it was their event.

39 Kragar  May 22, 2015 11:42:33am

re: #32 Dave In Austin

Anyone do a goggle search on that pic? Prolly Sturgis….

Nope, appears to be from the actual event, where official estimates range between 10k to 70k

40 Dr. Matt  May 22, 2015 11:42:48am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

I was just able to report it on the twitter app on iPhone.

41 freetoken  May 22, 2015 11:42:57am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

Heck, I didn’t think anyone blocked little old me. Ok, I’ll check it out.

42 Charles Johnson  May 22, 2015 11:43:07am

Barrett Brown is in prison right now for doing what Chuck just did.

43 jaunte  May 22, 2015 11:44:03am

Political expressionism.

44 Lord Of The Pies  May 22, 2015 11:44:37am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

No, that’s “unavailable” message is what you see if you’ve blocked the user or they blocked you. Click the link and you’ll see it.

[Embedded content]

I frequently see the “unavailable” message when someone else is retweeting an embed (secondhand embed), and I know that I am not blocking or blocked.

45 Varek Raith  May 22, 2015 11:44:45am

re: #43 jaunte

Political expressionism.

[Embedded content]

It looks like someone threw paint at it.
Wow.

46 freetoken  May 22, 2015 11:45:44am

I reported the tweet. Didn’t realize that twitter reports are now a multistep process. I notice that “he’s doing something illegal” isn’t one of the options.

47 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 11:46:03am

Wait, I wasn’t on-line yesterday.

Mike Huckabee is acting Pope and standing by Josh Duggar? You mean, the RC Church isn’t the only Christian organization that is twisted?

48 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 11:48:01am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

done

49 William Lewis  May 22, 2015 11:48:19am

re: #47 FemNaziBitch

Wait, I wasn’t on-line yesterday.

Mike Huckabee is acting Pope and standing by Josh Duggar? You mean, the RC Church isn’t the only Christian organization that is twisted?

The current one isn’t perfect by any stretch but I’ll defend Francis as being a real believer over that rat bastard former governor.

50 Charles Johnson  May 22, 2015 11:50:24am

re: #44 Lord Of The Pies

They’re probably blocked or blocking themselves.

51 makeitstop  May 22, 2015 11:51:17am

re: #43 jaunte

Political expressionism.

[Embedded content]

Are we sure that’s not a Pollack cut into the shape of Syria??

52 b_sharp  May 22, 2015 11:51:19am

re: #25 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Does anyone remember when this happened? I think they got some powers of 10 fewer than ONE MILLION.

[Embedded content]

OTOH, drug trafficking went through the roof.

53 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 11:51:44am

Well this was almost bad.

One train was stopped on the tracks, another ended up on the wrong track and nearly collided with it. The driver noticed and stopped the train in time.

54 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 22, 2015 11:51:56am

re: #12 Ace-o-aces

55 Lord Of The Pies  May 22, 2015 11:52:13am

re: #50 Charles Johnson

They’re probably blocked or blocking themselves.

Accounts like @CNN and other major news media?

56 Nyet  May 22, 2015 11:54:16am

re: #42 Charles Johnson

Barrett Brown is in prison right now for doing what Chuck just did.

Prosecutors had previously brought other charges associated with his sharing of an HTTP link to the leaked Stratfor data, but those charges were dropped in 2014.[2][3][4][5]

57 jaunte  May 22, 2015 11:54:42am

re: #46 freetoken

I reported the tweet. Didn’t realize that twitter reports are now a multistep process. I notice that “he’s doing something illegal” isn’t one of the options.

I think they should add that category.

58 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 11:54:53am

re: #53 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Here’s a better photo of how almost bad it was, as apparently they have moved the trains in that one.

59 Charles Johnson  May 22, 2015 11:54:57am

re: #55 Lord Of The Pies

Welp, I don’t really know all the circumstances in which they show that message - they haven’t publicized it. I think they’re trying to mislead people into thinking offensive tweets have been deleted, because that’s what most people think when they see the “unavailable” message.

60 jaunte  May 22, 2015 11:55:28am

re: #51 makeitstop

Are we sure that’s not a Pollack cut into the shape of Syria??

That’s what it is, I think.

61 Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2015 11:55:46am

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Here’s a better photo of how almost bad it was, as apparently they have moved the trains in that one.

[Embedded content]

Oooh, shit. That’s a damnably close call.

62 freetoken  May 22, 2015 11:56:06am

re: #59 Charles Johnson

It’s what I thought. On the face of it how would I have known otherwise?

63 Lord Of The Pies  May 22, 2015 11:58:40am

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Welp, I don’t really know all the circumstances in which they show that message - they haven’t publicized it. I think they’re trying to mislead people into thinking offensive tweets have been deleted, because that’s what most people think when they see the “unavailable” message.

I only see it when someone else retweets one of my subtweets. Maybe has something to do with secondhand subtweets.

64 Teukka  May 22, 2015 11:58:50am

re: #61 Dr Lizardo

Oooh, shit. That’s a damnably close call.

*shudders*

I remember two trains colliding head-on in Lerum in Western Sweden back in ‘86 I think. One of the conductors noticed what was happening and went for the door. He was still in the air when he heard the crash from the trains colliding.

65 William Lewis  May 22, 2015 12:04:30pm

re: #58 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Here’s a better photo of how almost bad it was, as apparently they have moved the trains in that one.

[Embedded content]

That’s about as close as it gets when you know how much it takes to stop trains. Both engineers needed their brown pants today.

67 freetoken  May 22, 2015 12:08:35pm

Duggar tweets still coming in at about 1 per second.

If anything, it has pushed aside the Bill O. beats his wife story story as the biggest hypocrisy of the week.

Still, so many don’t want to touch the real issue - Jim Bob and Michelle and their cult religious practice. It’s because of that foundational problem.

68 William Lewis  May 22, 2015 12:09:08pm

One last tid bit before I go to bed.

Paid my yearly dues to the Democratic Socialists of America & monthly dues to the Industrial Workers of the World today. I am just about as far left as KT could have ever feared was hiding under his bed :D

So excuse me while I “wobble” off to bed laughing my ass off at him.

69 Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2015 12:09:47pm

re: #68 William Lewis

One last tid bit before I go to bed.

Paid my yearly dues to the Democratic Socialists of America & monthly dues to the Industrial Workers of the World today. I am just about as far left as KT could have ever feared was hiding under his bed :D

So excuse me while I “wobble” off to bed laughing my ass off at him.

I see what you did there.

70 Kragar  May 22, 2015 12:11:28pm
71 Kid A  May 22, 2015 12:12:45pm

Fuck you, Kansas.
washingtonpost.com

72 Ace-o-aces  May 22, 2015 12:13:58pm
73 Kid A  May 22, 2015 12:15:49pm

Seriously, how in the fuck can you wingnuts in Kansas sleep at night? Most poor people pay everything in cash and you’re going to fucking charge them a fee every time they need to get money from the ATM, limiting the withdraw amount at $25 a time. It’s a tax, I thought you fuckers hated taxes!!!!!

74 Dr. Matt  May 22, 2015 12:17:23pm
75 Nyet  May 22, 2015 12:17:30pm

re: #71 Kid A

Since there’s a fee for every withdrawal

That’s the problem right there. WTF? There should be no fees associated with these accounts.

76 Eventual Carrion  May 22, 2015 12:17:57pm

re: #73 Kid A

Seriously, how in the fuck can you wingnuts in Kansas sleep at night? Most poor people pay everything in cash and you’re going to fucking charge them a fee every time they need to get money from the ATM, limiting the withdraw amount at $25 a time. It’s a tax, I thought you fuckers hated taxes!!!!!

Taxes for rich people and businesses are hated, fuck everyone else.

77 Kragar  May 22, 2015 12:18:29pm

The “Emma Sulkowicz is lying” theory is a straight-up, 9/11 truther-style conspiracy theory. It requires believing not just in a conspiracy but a cover-up, one that involves not just these three women but many others as well, at least a dozen or two. For instance, the anon writer says, “I told a few friends and my boyfriend at the time how creepy and weird it was.” Which means she either colluded with Emma to lie to her friends and boyfriend, or that they are also in on the conspiracy.

Look, no one is saying conspiracies don’t happen. They do, but by their nature, they tend to collapse pretty quickly because keeping everyone in line is really hard to do. People let something slip or someone gets a guilty conscience. What the rape truthers would have you believe is that three women and a number of likely co-conspirators—all college kids, mind you—have colluded not just to create these accusations but to bring them in front of Columbia (successfully, in Anon’s case), stick to the story despite immense amounts of media pressure, and conceal any evidence not just to counter their stories but also that could prove that they knew each other well enough to conspire before the fact.

78 Ace-o-aces  May 22, 2015 12:19:26pm

This was an arranged marriage. If the Duggars where Muslim I garuntee Hirsi Ali, Sam Harris, etc would be all over this shit.

79 EPR-radar  May 22, 2015 12:22:25pm

re: #71 Kid A

Fuck you, Kansas.
washingtonpost.com

Agreed. This business of a $25 cash limit on ATM withdrawals inflicted on aid recipients by the KS GOP is a Platonic ideal of petty evil.

Perfectly representative of the GOP as a whole.

80 freetoken  May 22, 2015 12:23:19pm

re: #79 EPR-radar

It’d make for a Dickens novel.

81 Kragar  May 22, 2015 12:23:57pm

I hate to admit it, but Glenn got off a good one:

82 EPR-radar  May 22, 2015 12:26:13pm

re: #80 freetoken

It’d make for a Dickens novel.

In a time warp, Dickens bases the actions of Ebenezer Scrooge on the policies of today’s US GOP.

Dickens’ editor rejects this as being too extreme.

83 Ace-o-aces  May 22, 2015 12:26:34pm
84 freetoken  May 22, 2015 12:28:05pm

The big argument against the critics of the Duggars is going this way:

You have no right to condemn Josh Duggar because {Bill Clinton | Hillary | Bob Menendez | MUSLIMS!}.

Today’s lesson in fallacies.

85 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 12:28:38pm
86 b_sharp  May 22, 2015 12:29:17pm

re: #84 freetoken

The big argument against the critics of the Duggars is going this way:

Today’s lesson in fallacies.

In regexp notation no less.

87 Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2015 12:31:05pm

On the subject of sociopaths and crazy political types, the LaRouchites are back in the news - at least in England and Germany.

This is related to the death of Jeremiah Duggan in March of 2003.

The family of a British student killed in Wiesbaden over 12 years ago made a fresh step towards justice on Thursday, after a London coroner disagreed with German authorities’ belief that he killed himself.

Jeremiah Duggan was 22 when he died after being hit by two cars early on a March morning in 2003.

He had been at a youth event organized by the far-right LaRouche political group in the days before.

thelocal.de

bbc.com

en.wikipedia.org

I had no idea the LaRouche political cult was still around - I figured they’d pretty much faded into utter obscurity.

88 EPR-radar  May 22, 2015 12:31:26pm

re: #73 Kid A

Seriously, how in the fuck can you wingnuts in Kansas sleep at night? Most poor people pay everything in cash and you’re going to fucking charge them a fee every time they need to get money from the ATM, limiting the withdraw amount at $25 a time. It’s a tax, I thought you fuckers hated taxes!!!!!

For that extra special bit of GOP ratfucking malice, the effective limit is really $20, since ATMs usually only have $20 bills. Combine that with a 1-2 $ transaction fee to get a 5-10% stealth tax on poor people, that goes right into the pockets of the corrupt fat cats that implemented the system.

Of course, for the GOP this reverse Robin Hood act pretty much is the proper function of government.

89 Charles Johnson  May 22, 2015 12:36:08pm

re: #84 freetoken

The big argument against the critics of the Duggars is going this way:

Today’s lesson in fallacies.

You forgot Lena Dunham. Right wingers are attacking her all over the web.

90 b_sharp  May 22, 2015 12:37:00pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

You forgot Lena Dunham. Right wingers are attacking her all over the web.

Because everybody knows a 7 year old is just like a 15 year old.

91 freetoken  May 22, 2015 12:37:16pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

Oh yeah, have to put her in too.

92 Kragar  May 22, 2015 12:37:28pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

You forgot Lena Dunham. Right wingers are attacking her all over the web.

Lena Dunham was a spokesperson for group dedicated to demonizing gay people as sexual predators?

I did not know that!
///

93 aagcobb  May 22, 2015 12:37:52pm

re: #73 Kid A

Seriously, how in the fuck can you wingnuts in Kansas sleep at night? Most poor people pay everything in cash and you’re going to fucking charge them a fee every time they need to get money from the ATM, limiting the withdraw amount at $25 a time. It’s a tax, I thought you fuckers hated taxes!!!!!

They looooove to screw the poor.

94 TedStriker  May 22, 2015 12:38:57pm

re: #93 aagcobb

They looooove to screw the poor.

It gets them hard.

95 Charles Johnson  May 22, 2015 12:39:15pm
96 Nyet  May 22, 2015 12:40:23pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

The nontroversy that was started by the guy who wants to hang women who had abortions.

97 freetoken  May 22, 2015 12:40:56pm
98 Nyet  May 22, 2015 12:41:50pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

Of course it would. Reminds me of how some patriotic Russian deputies recently described German neo-Nazis as “antifascists”.

99 Targetpractice  May 22, 2015 12:44:06pm

re: #88 EPR-radar

For that extra special bit of GOP ratfucking malice, the effective limit is really $20, since ATMs usually only have $20 bills. Combine that with a 1-2 $ transaction fee to get a 5-10% stealth tax on poor people, that goes right into the pockets of the corrupt fat cats that implemented the system.

Of course, for the GOP this reverse Robin Hood act pretty much is the proper function of government.

For the GOP, this is just another step towards zeroing out the social safety net. In their minds, they’re “weening” them off support by slowly closing the tap. This is that “compassionate conservatism” we heard so much about.

100 Nyet  May 22, 2015 12:46:54pm

re: #99 Targetpractice

Slowly boiling the frog.

101 EPR-radar  May 22, 2015 12:49:14pm

re: #99 Targetpractice

For the GOP, this is just another step towards zeroing out the social safety net. In their minds, they’re “weening” them off support by slowly closing the tap. This is that “compassionate conservatism” we heard so much about.

At the current rate of GOP degeneration, I may live to see modest proposals from the GOP on how to deal with poverty, such as straight-up death squads.

102 Kragar  May 22, 2015 12:49:25pm

re: #99 Targetpractice

For the GOP, this is just another step towards zeroing out the social safety net. In their minds, they’re “weening” them off support by slowly closing the tap. This is that “compassionate conservatism” we heard so much about.

$20 a day, where they pay lets say a $3.00 “service charge” per transacation, so it takes them 10 days to draw $200 and lose $30 dollars off the top.

103 Nyet  May 22, 2015 12:49:32pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

BTW if you search at rt com, RT has quite a hard-on for Auernheimer.

104 Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2015 12:50:23pm

Grey Poupon. The lost footage.

105 freetoken  May 22, 2015 12:53:35pm

The Duggars have made millions of dollars off their TLC deal.

TLC first featured the Duggars in 2004. That was only two years after Josh started his molesting behavior.

If Jim Bob had reported and sought help for Josh when the transgressions occurred, do you think TLC would have given them their own show, and thus millions of dollars?

I don’t want to drag the little girls into the public and that is what makes this issue so uncomfortable for me - victims ought to have their own privacy.

But when I think more and more about what Jim Bob and Michelle have done, or didn’t do, it all seems more and more wrong.

106 Nyet  May 22, 2015 12:54:10pm

I miss the Russian (really hot, very tasty) mustard. Can’t stand Dijon and such.

107 Kragar  May 22, 2015 12:55:16pm

re: #106 Nyet

I miss the Russian (really hot, very tasty) mustard. Can’t stand Dijon and such.

Local place used to sell a hot garlic peppercorn mustard, but its gone now.

108 aagcobb  May 22, 2015 12:55:24pm

This article is jaw dropping. The most shameless politician in America distributes photos of himself and his teenage mistress and their baby. He served 90 days in jail for contributing to her delinquency.

109 makeitstop  May 22, 2015 12:55:56pm

re: #105 freetoken

The Duggars have made millions of dollars off their TLC deal.

TLC first featured the Duggars in 2004. That was only two years after Josh started his molesting behavior.

If Jim Bob had reported and sought help for Josh when the transgressions occurred, do you think TLC would have given them their own show, and thus millions of dollars?

That was my first thought when I heard that they didn’t report it for so long. That TV deal would have been scotched in a New York minute.

That’s one of many, many things that make me want to smash something when I think about it for longer than 5 seconds.

110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 22, 2015 12:55:58pm

Hi Lizards,

Today I had to say goodbye to one of the most awesome cats I have ever owned, my cat Bill. I got him when he was a kitten, barely 6 weeks old. He had eye issues, nose issues and was skin and bones. We nursed him to health from the brink of death three times and for the past 14 years he’s been with me. Those who met him know just how awesome he was.
For the past couple of days he seemed “off” and wasn’t his usual self and last night he was barely able to walk around and had no interest in food or water and couldn’t even purr when I was petting him. I took him to the vet today and it turns out he lost a lot of blood (mainly red blood cells) and his body was shutting down. They offered to do transfusions but all indications were that he most likely had cancer or some other issue that was likely untreatable at his age.
I couldn’t stand to see him suffer and couldn’t afford the transfusions so I held and comforted him as he slipped away. I’ll miss him greatly.

111 Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2015 12:56:50pm

re: #106 Nyet

I miss the Russian (really hot, very tasty) mustard. Can’t stand Dijon and such.

Hmmm………sounds good. Here we have traditional mustard (which reminds me of French’s Mustard), but also a kᖞnska (horseradish) mustard that’s quite good, actually.

113 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 12:57:33pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

{{gentle hugs}}

114 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 12:57:36pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Lots of hugs your direction.

115 Jenner7  May 22, 2015 12:57:45pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So sorry Brother…

116 makeitstop  May 22, 2015 12:57:53pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Hi Lizards,

Today I had to say goodbye to one of the most awesome cats I have ever owned, my cat Bill. I got him when he was a kitten, barely 6 weeks old. He had eye issues, nose issues and was skin and bones. We nursed him to health from the brink of death three times and for the past 14 years he’s been with me. Those who met him know just how awesome he was.
For the past couple of days he seemed “off” and wasn’t his usual self and last night he was barely able to walk around and had no interest in food or water and couldn’t even purr when I was petting him. I took him to the vet today and it turns out he lost a lot of blood (mainly red blood cells) and his body was shutting down. They offered to do transfusions but all indications were that he most likely had cancer or some other issue that was likely untreatable at his age.
I couldn’t stand to see him suffer and couldn’t afford the transfusions so I held and comforted him as he slipped away. I’ll miss him greatly.

So sorry for your loss. Losing a pet is heartbreaking, especially when they’ve been part of your life for so long.

117 A Cranky One  May 22, 2015 12:57:54pm
118 Nyet  May 22, 2015 12:59:02pm

re: #111 Dr Lizardo

Ah yes, Russian horseradish - khren - is also great.

119 Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2015 12:59:34pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

My condolences.

120 freetoken  May 22, 2015 1:01:03pm

re: #109 makeitstop

Yup. Jim Bob and Michelle decided to suppress/avoid dealing with the issue for the sake of celebrity.

I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that a parent would agree to nationally expose his family’s daily life while in the middle of incestuous molestation issues.

121 Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2015 1:01:17pm

re: #118 Nyet

Ah yes, Russian horseradish - khren - is also great.

Yep. That should have read differently, but the particular character isn’t represented, I guess. It’s that funky Czech letter, a rolled “r” combined with a simultaneous “zh” sound.

122 Nyet  May 22, 2015 1:01:28pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

He was lucky to have a loving owner.

123 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 1:01:47pm

Kansas gets ‘F’ for reproductive rights in new report

Kansas is third-worst in America for reproductive rights, according to the Institute for Women’s Policy Research. South Dakota and Nebraska are the only states graded lower in the report.

Neighboring states like Missouri and Oklahoma didn’t fare much better. Meanwhile, the highest grades for reproductive rights went to Oregon, Vermont and Maryland.

also: Missouri, Kansas top national list of worst puppy mills

Read more: kctv5.com

124 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 1:02:30pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

:(

125 rhuarc  May 22, 2015 1:02:46pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So sorry. I feel your pain. My wife and lost our 8 year old Rottweiler 2 days ago to cancer. We took her to the vet because we thought she was experiencing bloat, but it turned out her spleen had ruptured and she was bleeding internally. When she was opened up to remove the spleen the vet saw cancer had thoroughly invaded her liver. So we made the decision not to allow her to wake up. Cancer sucks and it’s even worse in animals because we often don’t know they have it until it’s too late.

126 Nyet  May 22, 2015 1:02:55pm

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, Polish chrzan too.

127 Jebediah, RBG  May 22, 2015 1:03:09pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Condolences on your loss. It is always hard to say goodbye, even when there is no doubt at all that you are doing the right thing for them by letting them go and sparing them further suffering.

128 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 1:03:49pm

re: #106 Nyet

I miss the Russian (really hot, very tasty) mustard. Can’t stand Dijon and such.

Maybe you can find some here.

129 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 22, 2015 1:04:26pm

Thanks guys. It means a lot.

130 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 1:04:33pm

re: #108 aagcobb

This article is jaw dropping. The most shameless politician in America distributes photos of himself and his teenage mistress and their baby. He served 90 days in jail for contributing to her delinquency.

OMG!!!

131 Kragar  May 22, 2015 1:04:45pm

Complicating matters, three of the four — Louisiana’s Bobby Jindal, Wisconsin’s Scott Walker and Ohio’s John Kasich — have signed the anti-tax pledge heralded by conservative activist Grover Norquist, while New Jersey’s Chris Christie has verbally promised to not raise taxes. That limits their options to address revenues that have fallen short of expectations.

“Post-Tea Party there are new requirements for being a successful candidate if you’re a Republican,” Norquist told TPM. “And that includes reining spending more than some are willing to do.”

132 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 1:05:10pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

(((((((Dreggas))))))

133 Nyet  May 22, 2015 1:05:56pm

re: #128 FemNaziBitch

I’m not in the US, but thanks :D

134 makeitstop  May 22, 2015 1:07:21pm

Gawker’s got a timeline which points out that Josh’s behavior was talked about on the web well before the Duggars got their TV show.

You have to ask if TLC/Discovery knew about this, but decided that their hot new property was worth turning a blind eye.

135 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 1:08:13pm

re: #128 FemNaziBitch

Maybe you can find some here.

What a great site!!! Remember this one?

So good!!!

136 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 1:08:41pm
137 makeitstop  May 22, 2015 1:08:55pm

re: #125 rhuarc

So sorry. I feel your pain. My wife and lost our 8 year old Rottweiler 2 days ago to cancer. We took her to the vet because we thought she was experiencing bloat, but it turned out her spleen had ruptured and she was bleeding internally. When she was opened up to remove the spleen the vet saw cancer had thoroughly invaded her liver. So we made the decision not to allow her to wake up. Cancer sucks and it’s even worse in animals because we often don’t know they have it until it’s too late.

Condolences, rhuarc. We lost our last dog in quite the same way. :(

138 Amory Blaine  May 22, 2015 1:09:07pm
Asked why he was doing this, Auernheimer said: “I went straight for government employees because they seem the easiest to shame.”

Red meat for ‘mercia.

139 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 1:10:00pm

We have an old girl who is not feeling well. We have a sad feeling about her. She’s been having problems for a couple of years … .

Big hugs to anyone whose 4 footed friends are sick or have gone over the Bridge.

140 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 1:10:25pm

re: #138 Amory Blaine

Red meat for ‘mercia.

“Meat’s back on the menu, boys!”

141 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 22, 2015 1:11:26pm

re: #125 rhuarc

sorry for your loss as well

142 Nyet  May 22, 2015 1:12:45pm

Who watches these fucking stupid shows?

143 Iwouldprefernotto  May 22, 2015 1:13:20pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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So far the only reason that I’m on Twitter is to block CCJ.

144 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 1:15:29pm
145 Amory Blaine  May 22, 2015 1:15:44pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
re: #125 rhuarc

Sorry for your losses guys.

146 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 1:15:53pm

Well, that was weird.

A teeny teeny spider was hanging from my glasses, in front of my damn face.

He’s now in carpet land.

147 Amory Blaine  May 22, 2015 1:17:08pm

re: #146 #FergusonFireside

Plotting his revenge…

148 freetoken  May 22, 2015 1:22:00pm

Meanwhile, down in Je$u$ land:

In Oklahoma, Jeb Bush urges Republicans to ‘get outside our comfort zone’

“I think we need to get beyond preaching to the choir,” the former Florida governor said at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference in Oklahoma. “Get outside of our comfort zone,” and into the Latino barrios, black churches and college campuses.

Sounds suspiciously like that re-messaging campaign of last year, no?

149 Targetpractice  May 22, 2015 1:24:05pm

re: #148 freetoken

Meanwhile, down in Je$u$ land:

In Oklahoma, Jeb Bush urges Republicans to ‘get outside our comfort zone’

Sounds suspiciously like that re-messaging campaign of last year, no?

I’d actually have to see a sign of a different message being preached. Sounds to me more like Jeb’s telling them to go out and preach their gospel.

150 freetoken  May 22, 2015 1:24:28pm

Oh, the inside part on Rubio that I missed:

In touting his record as governor, Bush […] mentioned how he vetoed projects sought by Democrats and Republicans.

One of those projects explains why billionaire Norman Braman of Miami loathes Bush, and loves Marco Rubio.

In 2004, Bush vetoed $2 million for the Braman Family Breast Cancer Institute at the University of Miami. “I wasn’t too happy with that veto,” Braman recently told our colleague Patricia Mazzei.

Rubio pushed for the money and secured funding the following year. “Marco,” Bush wrote in an email to a lobbyist, “strongly wanted the Braman Cancer money.

So began the relationship between Rubio and Braman, who has employed Rubio and his wife and now plans to pour millions into a Super PAC supporting Rubio’s presidential campaign.

151 Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2015 1:25:58pm

re: #146 #FergusonFireside

Well, that was weird.

A teeny teeny spider was hanging from my glasses, in front of my damn face.

He’s now in carpet land.

152 Kid A  May 22, 2015 1:26:59pm

Other ways to fuck poor people:

1. Payday loans with generous APRs of 425%.

2. State lotteries.

3. No, or very limited sex education in public schools.

4. Chickenshit traffic tickets. Forgetting to turn on your signal, drifting into another lane accidentally, three miles over the speed limit, etc. A family with a very limited income can’t afford to pay it, and then they get a warrant on top of that.

5. But the worst way to fuck with poor people is to vote for a Republican.

153 allegro  May 22, 2015 1:28:40pm

re: #149 Targetpractice

I’d actually have to see a sign of a different message being preached. Sounds to me more like Jeb’s telling them to go out and preach their gospel.

Yeah, going there to lecture them about what losers and evil doers they are to their faces really never goes well for them.

154 Higgs Boson's Mate  May 22, 2015 1:33:05pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

My deepest condolences on the loss of Bill.

155 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 1:35:03pm

re: #134 makeitstop

Gawker’s got a timeline which points out that Josh’s behavior was talked about on the web well before the Duggars got their TV show.

You have to ask if TLC/Discovery knew about this, but decided that their hot new property was worth turning a blind eye.

Who was this person running for Senator? So many people knew.

Since that time the same boy was betrothed again to the same girl. He was working very hard on a campaingn for U.S. Senate for the girls father. The father lost the campaign. He immediately began looking for “sin in the camp”, as that could be the only explanation for the loss. He found that the young man betrothed to his daughter, had committed sexual sins(?) while on the campaign trail. The young man, now 16, was made to stand in fornt of the church and confess his sin. He was then told that the campaign was lost due to his sin.

156 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 1:35:50pm

re: #155 #FergusonFireside

Who was this person running for Senator? So many people knew.

Jim Holt.

157 Thanos  May 22, 2015 1:36:08pm

In other news GOA extremists to host Ted Cruz:

mediamatters.org

158 Mike Lamb  May 22, 2015 1:36:37pm

re: #25 Lord Of The Pies

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Does anyone remember when this happened? I think they got some powers of 10 fewer than ONE MILLION.

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They’re posting that a week after the Waco incident? Seriously?

159 makeitstop  May 22, 2015 1:37:52pm

re: #155 #FergusonFireside

Who was this person running for Senator? So many people knew.

Jim Holt, from the look of it.

160 Thanos  May 22, 2015 1:40:11pm

And another example of the lesson that you are never anonymous on the internet:
arstechnica.com

161 allegro  May 22, 2015 1:40:43pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

re: #125 rhuarc

My heartfelt condolences to both of you as well. Making that decision is so difficult and painful though you know it is the kindest and most loving act available to you. Virtual hugs and hopes that the sweet, happy memories soon replace your current grief.

162 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 1:40:52pm
163 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 1:45:05pm

Montel Williams Eviscerates Admitted Molester Josh Duggar on Twitter

164 Thanos  May 22, 2015 1:45:58pm

Just when you thought it was safe to factory wipe your android:

arstechnica.com

165 Eclectic Cyborg  May 22, 2015 1:46:05pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I am sorry for your loss. I know how much pets can be family too.

Sending good thoughts and prayers your way.

166 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 22, 2015 1:47:41pm

re: #154 Higgs Boson’s Mate

thanks

167 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 22, 2015 1:48:45pm

re: #161 allegro

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

Thanks I really appreciate it guys. I knew it would happen eventually but just having it happen so quick and sudden has torn me up.

168 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 1:49:19pm

re: #163 FemNaziBitch

Montel Williams Eviscerates Admitted Molester Josh Duggar on Twitter

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He’s right on. And he was wondering what I wondered. How the hell do you blame gay people for child molestation while being one yourself. And yes the wingers like Little Ben Shapiro who liken this to Lena Dunham are disgusting. For one, Lena was six and it happened one time. Eagerly awaiting all the wingers who condemned Lena Dunham to also condemn Josh Duggar but that’s not going to happen and the reason why is because conservatives are hypocritical assholes.

169 Great White Snark  May 22, 2015 1:50:02pm

re: #152 Kid A

Other ways to fuck poor people:

1. Payday loans with generous APRs of 425%.

2. State lotteries.

3. No, or very limited sex education in public schools.

4. Chickenshit traffic tickets. Forgetting to turn on your signal, drifting into another lane accidentally, three miles over the speed limit, etc. A family with a very limited income can’t afford to pay it, and then they get a warrant on top of that.

5. But the worst way to fuck with poor people is to vote for a Republican.

LAUSD has got to be in there, top 5.

170 Eclectic Cyborg  May 22, 2015 1:52:25pm

re: #167 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Thanks I really appreciate it guys. I knew it would happen eventually but just having it happen so quick and sudden has torn me up.

I know the feeling unfortunately. Last summer I lost a cat who had been dealing with health issues for awhile. Then two days later I lost a basset hound I’d had for years. Talk about a rough week.

Gone, but never forgotten
171 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 1:52:46pm

re: #167 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Thanks I really appreciate it guys. I knew it would happen eventually but just having it happen so quick and sudden has torn me up.

Ditto what everyone else has already said. I know how tough it is to lose a pet. They really are family.

172 Kid A  May 22, 2015 1:55:26pm

re: #169 Great White Snark

Please feel free to add to the list!

173 freetoken  May 22, 2015 1:59:48pm

Voting is brisk as polling stations near closing time

The turnout across the country could reach over 60% by the time polls close and if that is the case, close to two million people will have cast their votes, which would be the highest turnout for any referendum in Irish history.

I guess we’ll know sometime this evening how Ireland voted.

174 Kragar  May 22, 2015 2:00:47pm

re: #162 FemNaziBitch

The premise of conversion therapy is with the proper training, one can be converted from one sexuality to another.

If that is the case, one could therefore be converted from straight to gay using the proper course of treatment.

If the Family Research Council and other really believe in conversion therapy, they should prove that it works each way.

///

175 allegro  May 22, 2015 2:01:29pm

re: #167 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Thanks I really appreciate it guys. I knew it would happen eventually but just having it happen so quick and sudden has torn me up.

Having time with a long term illness, such as we have here with my sweet spaniel, isn’t much better. I hold my breath every morning when I check on him, preparing myself to find him gone. On his bad days, I think this is it and wonder if I’m allowing unneeded suffering only to see him later wake from a long nap to eat a big dinner and want to go for a walk. It’s kinda crazy making in a way, though all worth it to have have him just a little while longer. This weekend actually marks our 10 year anniversary from the day we brought him home from the shelter.

176 Nyet  May 22, 2015 2:02:03pm

re: #174 Kragar

The problem is, if they try converting starting with, say, Bryan Fischer, they may as well “succeed”. ;)

177 Shiplord Kirel  May 22, 2015 2:02:45pm

re: #43 jaunte

Political expressionism.

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Well, we finally got there. This is what it really looks like, Hell is a Handbasket.

178 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:04:57pm

re: #173 freetoken

Voting is brisk as polling stations near closing time

I guess we’ll know sometime this evening how Ireland voted.

Really hoping for the best out of Ireland. This would be amazing if they voted yes given the country’s ties to Catholicism and its reputation as being a more socially conservative place.

179 Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2015 2:05:16pm

re: #173 freetoken

Voting is brisk as polling stations near closing time

I guess we’ll know sometime this evening how Ireland voted.

I’ve heard we should know the results by sometime tomorrow afternoon European time. I don’t know if they’ll do any exit polling, but I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the opinion polls are more-or-less accurate (showing the Yes vote winning the referendum). After the opinion polls debacle in the recent UK general election, I’d prefer to wait till the votes are indeed counted before celebrating.

180 freetoken  May 22, 2015 2:06:00pm

Replacing genes in yeast with their human kin - what could possible go wrong (talking bread?)

Anyway, a good example of conservation of gene function in evolution:

Systematic humanization of yeast genes reveals conserved functions and genetic modularity

To determine whether genes retain ancestral functions over a billion years of evolution and to identify principles of deep evolutionary divergence, we replaced 414 essential yeast genes with their human orthologs, assaying for complementation of lethal growth defects upon loss of the yeast genes. Nearly half (47%) of the yeast genes could be successfully humanized. Sequence similarity and expression only partly predicted replaceability. Instead, replaceability depended strongly on gene modules: Genes in the same process tended to be similarly replaceable (e.g., sterol biosynthesis) or not (e.g., DNA replication initiation). Simulations confirmed that selection for specific function can maintain replaceability despite extensive sequence divergence. Critical ancestral functions of many essential genes are thus retained in a pathway-specific manner, resilient to drift in sequences, splicing, and protein interfaces.

181 freetoken  May 22, 2015 2:07:28pm

re: #179 Dr Lizardo

Saturday afternoon in Ireland is early sunrise here on the left coast. I suppose when I wake we’ll hear the news.

But yes, if Catholic Ireland votes for gay marriage I expect and outcry from PaleoPat and friends.

182 Shiplord Kirel  May 22, 2015 2:08:18pm

re: #180 freetoken

Replacing genes in yeast with their human kin - what could possible go wrong (talking bread?)

Anyway, a good example of conservation of gene function in evolution:

Systematic humanization of yeast genes reveals conserved functions and genetic modularity

Frankenbread!

184 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 2:10:11pm

This is mega-pastor John Hagee, the leading purveyor of a theory that the ‘blood moon’ is a harbinger of apocalypse.

THE END IS COMING —I accept Mastercard, Visa, American Express, PayPal and, of course, CASH!!!!!

185 Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2015 2:11:14pm

re: #181 freetoken

Saturday afternoon in Ireland is early sunrise here on the left coast. I suppose when I wake we’ll hear the news.

But yes, if Catholic Ireland votes for gay marriage I expect and outcry from PaleoPat and friends.

Of that I have little doubt; the wingnuts will be apoplectic, claiming it’s the end of the world and whatnot.

186 Nyet  May 22, 2015 2:11:52pm

re: #180 freetoken

One more reminder that we’re cannibals, eating our cousins ;)

187 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:12:02pm

re: #183 FemNaziBitch

7 Things People Who Say They’re ‘Fiscally Conservative But Socially Liberal’ Don’t Understand

Good article. Really I see this cop out all the time by people too chicken shit to defend economic liberalism.

188 goddamnedfrank  May 22, 2015 2:13:56pm

A Sun newspaper reporter has been found guilty of receiving story tips from a Heathrow Airport anti-terror officer.

This guy actively bribed an anti-terror security officer, successfully enticed him to violate the integrity of his post and in turn created the potential for blackmail and a larger breach of airport safety. But all Chuck can think of is how clever he was to get information by whatever means imaginable.

189 Dr Lizardo  May 22, 2015 2:14:15pm

re: #182 Shiplord Kirel

Frankenbread!

Frankenmilk - or so I’ve heard it referred to as.

Personally, I’ve gotten quite used to it. No refrigeration needed, and it lasts for six months.

190 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:14:19pm

Well as someone who has been to Ireland twice and has ancestral connections to the land, I will be really happy because given the Irish people’s own history of being religiously discriminated against, it’s absurd to use religion as a tool to discriminate against gay people. I think ultimately this will be a YES because Ireland has been growing more socially liberal in recent years.

191 Nyet  May 22, 2015 2:16:07pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

And hopefully the barbaric blasphemy law is next.

192 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:16:42pm

re: #191 Nyet

And hopefully the barbaric blasphemy law is next.

Definitely.

193 Nyet  May 22, 2015 2:19:52pm

I have the impression that the old-style Irish religiosity took a hit after the child abuse revelations. Would that be roughly correct?

194 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 2:20:47pm

Matt’s description of this situation is very good. I encourage everyone to watch.

I heard him speak of this last month at a luncheon I attended.

195 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 2:21:21pm

re: #193 Nyet

I have the impression that the old-style Irish religiosity took a hit after the child abuse revelations. Would that be roughly correct?

yes. Even my hubby contemplated leaving the Church.

donations are much affected.

The old-style power factions are fighting back. Hence, our current political atmosphere.

Why it has seemed to be vocalized by the Evangelicals is beyond me.

Make no mistake, it is SSDD in the Vatican and with the American Bishops.

Not so much with American Nuns. They deserve our support.

196 goddamnedfrank  May 22, 2015 2:22:51pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Well as someone who has been to Ireland twice and has ancestral connections to the land, I will be really happy because given the Irish people’s own history of being religiously discriminated against, it’s absurd to use religion as a tool to discriminate against gay people. I think ultimately this will be a YES because Ireland has been growing more socially liberal in recent years.

No matter the result it’s always a little bit troubling seeing an entire people’s basic civil rights and equality officially put in the hands of popular opinion.

197 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:23:08pm

re: #193 Nyet

I have an impression that the old-style Irish religiosity took a hit after the child abuse revelations. Would that be roughly correct?

I definitely think that had a big effect yes.

198 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:23:35pm

re: #196 goddamnedfrank

No matter the result it’s always a little bit troubling seeing an entire people’s basic civil rights and equality officially put in the hands of popular opinion.

Indeed. This isn’t something that should be up for popular vote.

200 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:26:36pm

re: #199 FemNaziBitch

NY Rep. Blasts Black Conservative Sheriff Who Blames ‘Underclass’ Behavior for Police Violence

Jeffries acknowledged that black-on-black crime is a problem, but also underscored that 83 percent of white people are killed by other whites.

“Is white-on-white violence also a problem that we should have a robust discussion about?” Jeffries asked Clarke, who appears frequently on Fox News.
This is right on. Really time and time again I hear from other whites about how “no one is talking about black on black crime” to which I always point out that no one is concerned about “white on white” crime. Sheriff Clarke is a right wing hack.

201 Nyet  May 22, 2015 2:27:19pm

re: #196 goddamnedfrank

No matter the result it’s always a little bit troubling seeing an entire people’s basic civil rights and equality officially put in the hands of popular opinion.

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Indeed. This isn’t something that should be up for popular vote.

Agreed. But politically it’s good and helps, and has influence elsewhere.

202 freetoken  May 22, 2015 2:27:29pm

re: #193 Nyet

I have the impression that the old-style Irish religiosity took a hit after the child abuse revelations. Would that be roughly correct?

Either that, or it was the increased viewership of Strictly Come Dancing in Ireland due to the addition of native-Irish dance pro Tristan MacManus.

203 Nyet  May 22, 2015 2:28:52pm

re: #201 Nyet

Realpolitikally, is what I mean.

204 Great White Snark  May 22, 2015 2:28:56pm

re: #183 FemNaziBitch

7 Things People Who Say They’re ‘Fiscally Conservative But Socially Liberal’ Don’t Understand

Aw shoot. I disagree with a lot of that article. Nothing against you at all though!

The title is straight out straw man. And on his first point, I recall two big recessions and two really big recoveries. The recoveries did more to reduce poverty than safety nets or tax policy ever did. The recessions surely did more damage than a unadjusted minimum wage! Unless he defines poor as depending on assistance, but to exclude the underemployed distorts the economic concept of poverty.

Valid on education and infrastructure. Except fiscal conservatism hardly excludes maintenance. Deficit city/state budgets do that.

Why (edit) she thinks a guy like me would be ok with domestic or work abuse is either terribly misinformed or just buying into common insults. How does fiscal conservative make me ok with racist policing? Question for the author, not you.

Is deregulation a policy Gov Jerry Brown has been pushing? Methinks the opposite and you can’t get more fiscal conservative/socially liberal than that guy. In fact just apply the article to him. How does it fit? The writer just hung some valid points about poverty etc on the wrong hook.

205 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:29:38pm

Speaking of Ireland though. I remember having a conversation in Ireland the year Obama became president with an African immigrant cabby. He was curious about what I thought about Obama being an American. I told him that I voted for Obama and that he had a big mess to clean up and he dealt with a lot of hateful opponents.

206 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:31:53pm

re: #204 Great White Snark

Aw shoot. I disagree with a lot of that article. Nothing against you at all though!

The title is straight out straw man. And on his first point, I recall two big recessions and two really big recoveries. The recoveries did more to reduce poverty than safety nets or tax policy ever did. The recessions surely did more damage than a unadjusted minimum wage! Unless he defines poor as depending on assistance, but to exclude the underemployed distorts the economic concept of poverty.

Valid on education and infrastructure. Except fiscal conservatism hardly excludes maintenance. Deficit city/state budgets do that.

Why he thinks a guy like me would be ok with domestic or work abuse is either terribly misinformed or just buying into common insults. How does fiscal conservative make me ok with racist policing? Question for the author, not you.

Is deregulation a policy Gov Jerry Brown has been pushing? Methinks the opposite and you can’t get more fiscal conservative/socially liberal than that guy. In fact just apply the article to him. How does it fit? The guy just hung some valid points about poverty etc on the wrong hook.

I think what many have a problem with is people who go “Well I’m socially liberal but fiscal conservative” and then go vote for politicians and thus policies that undercut a lot of that social liberalism. Not saying that’s what you do yourself but I really do get tired of supposed liberals who want the benefits of social liberalism but don’t seem to want to pay for it.

207 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 2:32:55pm

re: #204 Great White Snark

Aw shoot. I disagree with a lot of that article. Nothing against you at all though!

The title is straight out straw man. And on his first point, I recall two big recessions and two really big recoveries. The recoveries did more to reduce poverty than safety nets or tax policy ever did. The recessions surely did more damage than a unadjusted minimum wage! Unless he defines poor as depending on assistance, but to exclude the underemployed distorts the economic concept of poverty.

Valid on education and infrastructure. Except fiscal conservatism hardly excludes maintenance. Deficit city/state budgets do that.

Why he thinks a guy like me would be ok with domestic or work abuse is either terribly misinformed or just buying into common insults. How does fiscal conservative make me ok with racist policing? Question for the author, not you.

Is deregulation a policy Gov Jerry Brown has been pushing? Methinks the opposite and you can’t get more fiscal conservative/socially liberal than that guy. In fact just apply the article to him. How does it fit? The guy just hung some valid points about poverty etc on the wrong hook.

I think a definitive definition of fiscal conservative would be helpful.

IMHO, there seems to be a lack of long term thinking. Comprehensive Sex Education in the Public Schools, Cost-free birth control, social services and financial support now, mean less costs for the Judicial system and ultimately the tax payers LATER.

Kinda like going to the dentist every 6 months prevents major dental bills later …

And we all know what dental insurance pays —right?

208 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 2:34:07pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I think what many have a problem with is people who go “Well I’m socially liberal but fiscal conservative” and then go vote for politicians and thus policies that undercut a lot of that social liberalism. Not saying that’s what you do yourself but I really do get tired of supposed liberals who want the benefits of social liberalism but don’t seem to want to pay for it.

Or want to pay and think they’ve done all that is needed to be done.

They don’t change their behavior and keep contributing to the problem.

209 freetoken  May 22, 2015 2:34:39pm

Harlem Globetrotters Great Marques Haynes Dies at 89

Marques Haynes’ dribbling skills wowed fans in more than 100 countries. He was a showstopper, a player who helped make the Harlem Globetrotters beloved ambassadors of basketball around the world.

Haynes, often called the greatest dribbler in basketball history, died Friday in El Paso, Texas, of natural causes, the Globetrotters said. He was 89.

[…]

210 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:35:37pm

re: #208 FemNaziBitch

Or want to pay and think they’ve done all that is needed to be done.

They don’t change their behavior and keep contributing to the problem.

Exactly. I mean, I think you raise a good question in your #207- What actually is a fiscal conservative? I mean compared to the Bush administration I’m certainly one but if you look at what I actually believe, one could easily call me a socialist.

211 Nyet  May 22, 2015 2:35:44pm

I don’t find the “fiscal conservative, social liberal” view appealing, but no, it’s not incoherent. What is meant by social liberalism here is not leftism, it’s specifically about abortion, SSM, basically secularism, plus lack of individual racism. That this view may also lead to greater poverty etc. does not contradict the “social liberal” part.

212 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 2:35:45pm

re: #204 Great White Snark

Just a note, but the author of the article is female.

213 Nyet  May 22, 2015 2:36:36pm

Also, I always thought that “fiscal conservative, social liberal” is more or less a subset of libertarianism.

214 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 2:37:41pm

never mind

215 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:37:56pm

re: #213 Nyet

Also, I always thought that “fiscal conservative, social liberal” is more or less a subset of libertarianism.

Think more old school Republican honestly. Fiscal conservatives to their credit aren’t absolutists like libertarians are which frankly outside their views on economics is one of my problems with libertarianism in the first place.

216 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 2:38:40pm

re: #214 FemNaziBitch

so?

So I thought perhaps we could refer to her with the proper pronouns, instead of calling her a guy and making references to the “errors he made” when RWC was discussing the article.

217 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 2:39:50pm

re: #216 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So I thought perhaps we could refer to her with the proper pronouns, instead of calling her a guy and making references to the “errors he made” when RWC was discussing the article.

I updated my #214

218 Nyet  May 22, 2015 2:40:16pm

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Good point.

219 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 2:41:14pm

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Think more old school Republican honestly. Fiscal conservatives to their credit aren’t absolutists like libertarians are which frankly outside their views on economics is one of my problems with libertarianism in the first place.

I don’t think the today’s GOP would propose a national highway system funded and constructed by the government.

change is the only constant —huh?

220 Great White Snark  May 22, 2015 2:41:54pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I think what many have a problem with is people who go “Well I’m socially liberal but fiscal conservative” and then go vote for politicians and thus policies that undercut a lot of that social liberalism. Not saying that’s what you do yourself but I really do get tired of supposed liberals who want the benefits of social liberalism but don’t seem to want to pay for it.

Well yes, but I might filter that a little by way of what his ballot even offers, so I might look at what he or she would advocate or vote for given the chance. I think the part that bugged me worst was the connection to domestic violence. Just seems a cheap shot to a person that might fit the title more sincerely than the people the author winds up really meaning. Such as you describe there.

221 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:42:27pm

re: #219 FemNaziBitch

I don’t think the today’s GOP would propose a national highway system funded and constructed by the government.

change is the only constant —huh?

I think VB has posted an image of their 1956 platform. It’s quite remarkable how regressive the GOP has grown.

222 freetoken  May 22, 2015 2:43:23pm

Hubble Spies Vast Gas Disk around Unique Massive Star

Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope have uncovered surprising new clues about a hefty, rapidly aging star whose behavior has never been seen before in our Milky Way galaxy. In fact, the star is so weird that astronomers have nicknamed it “Nasty 1,” a play on its catalog name of NaSt1. The star may represent a brief transitory stage in the evolution of extremely massive stars.

First discovered several decades ago, Nasty 1 was identified as a Wolf-Rayet star, a rapidly evolving star that is much more massive than our sun. The star loses its hydrogen-filled outer layers quickly, exposing its super-hot and extremely bright helium-burning core.

[…]

Image: hs-2015-21-b-large_web.jpg

223 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 2:43:24pm

re: #221 HappyWarrior

I think VB has posted an image of their 1956 platform. It’s quite remarkable how regressive the GOP has grown.

vb?

224 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 2:43:57pm
225 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:44:18pm

re: #223 FemNaziBitch

vb?

Babushka.

226 Nyet  May 22, 2015 2:44:53pm

re: #223 FemNaziBitch

vb?

tpl

227 Great White Snark  May 22, 2015 2:45:00pm

re: #212 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Thank you going back through.

228 TedStriker  May 22, 2015 2:45:18pm

re: #223 FemNaziBitch

vb?

The nice pie lady.

///

229 freetoken  May 22, 2015 2:45:34pm

I do wish that PR writers would stop using the term “burn” when it comes to fusion in stars. I think most laymen will be easily confused with the chemical process of “burning”.

Options are “fuse” or perhaps “consume”, the latter illustrating the problem for stars as they run out of easy material to fuse.

230 Nyet  May 22, 2015 2:45:35pm

re: #224 #FergusonFireside

Not halal? Pfeh, bigots.

/

231 Nyet  May 22, 2015 2:46:50pm

Also, 100% free of DNA and chemicals.

232 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 2:47:06pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Page not found. Was that this one?

Here’s all of the #AdultFriendFinder leaked profiles. Email at editor@gotnews.com if you find someone good & want $.
(I deleted download)

233 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:47:25pm

re: #220 Great White Snark

Well yes, but I might filter that a little by way of what his ballot even offers, so I might look at what he or she would advocate or vote for given the chance. I think the part that bugged me worst was the connection to domestic violence. Just seems a cheap shot to a person that might fit the title more sincerely than the people the author winds up really meaning. Such as you describe there.

Yeah that’s a fair point. And being in California, your brand of conservatives are definitely different from ours here in Virginia. I agree with you that she could have phrased it differently because it does come off as a cheap shot but as I said, I do have a problem with those who proclaim themselves pro-choice, pro LGBT rights, pro-science, pro-secularism, etc but then consider or give the GOP candidate a vote because “I’m a fiscal conservative.” The thing that bugs me is the assumption that “fiscal liberals” like me like taxes. No one actually likes taxes but as a member of the so called fiscal left, I see them as a necessary evil in a modern society.

234 freetoken  May 22, 2015 2:50:42pm

Oh, one more thing about that star - while there are several stories on the web, almost none of them are running the actual image, which I put in that post.

Rather, all the stories are running with the “artist’s conception”.

Because we really don’t want reality; we prefer prettier pictures than reality gives us.

235 freetoken  May 22, 2015 2:50:53pm

Wrote the curmudgeon.

236 TedStriker  May 22, 2015 2:51:38pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s a fair point. And being in California, your brand of conservatives are definitely different from ours here in Virginia. I agree with you that she could have phrased it differently because it does come off as a cheap shot but as I said, I do have a problem with those who proclaim themselves pro-choice, pro LGBT rights, pro-science, pro-secularism, etc but then consider or give the GOP candidate a vote because “I’m a fiscal conservative.” The thing that bugs me is the assumption that “fiscal liberals” like me like taxes. No one actually likes taxes but as a member of the so called fiscal left, I see them as a necessary evil in a modern society.

“Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society.”

237 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 2:53:53pm

re: #236 TedStriker

“Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society.”

And, I agree.

Personally, I’m really happy not to have to attend meetings on what kind of underlayment material is going to be used to lay new roads in my community. I’m really thrilled I don’t have to hear the ins and outs of the state of police vehicles and missing road signs. I don’t find this type of information interesting at all.

So, one could say I am happy to pay taxes.

238 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:54:24pm

re: #236 TedStriker

“Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society.”

Yes, indeed. The most obnoxious are the TCOT types on Twitter who whine about how their tax monies are going to poor people, or others they deem unworthy. In a free society, you don’t get to pick and choose where your taxes go. I mean what would these conservatives who have never met a defense budget increase they didn’t like if doves mostly on the left political persuasion went “Well I’m never going to use these nukes so I should haven’t to pay taxes that go to defense.” It doesn’t work like that.

239 Nyet  May 22, 2015 2:54:54pm

Max Liebermann’s sketch of Jesus in the Temple:

Image: Liebermann_Skizze_Jesus.jpg

Before, savaged by critics, he repainted him as a blond quasi-European boy:

Image: Liebermann_Jesus_1879_det.jpg

240 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 2:55:53pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s a fair point. And being in California, your brand of conservatives are definitely different from ours here in Virginia. I agree with you that she could have phrased it differently because it does come off as a cheap shot but as I said, I do have a problem with those who proclaim themselves pro-choice, pro LGBT rights, pro-science, pro-secularism, etc but then consider or give the GOP candidate a vote because “I’m a fiscal conservative.” The thing that bugs me is the assumption that “fiscal liberals” like me like taxes. No one actually likes taxes but as a member of the so called fiscal left, I see them as a necessary evil in a modern society.

I curse the shit out of everything when it is tax time and I am trying to figure out what the bill is, but I also know that while yeah, it would be great to have that money back …that’s not how government works, that’s not how society works, and if I feel strongly that these things are important (which I do) then this is putting my money where my mouth is. And I am ok with that.

Just a real pain in the ass when buried in tax regulations.

241 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 2:58:31pm

re: #221 HappyWarrior

I think VB has posted an image of their 1956 platform. It’s quite remarkable how regressive the GOP has grown.

I’d like to see that link.

242 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 2:59:04pm

What we need to do though is stop calling the Republican party- fiscally conservative. They’re not and haven’t been for a very long time. It’s not fiscally conservative at all to push massive tax breaks while pushing for record defense spending for two wars as the previous administration with help from the Republican majority in Congress did. It’s also not fiscally conservative to oppose all taxes as Grover Norquist demands of Republicans in office and candidates for office. The anti-tax pledges are ridiculous.

243 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 2:59:22pm

re: #241 FemNaziBitch

I’d like to see that link.

presidency.ucsb.edu

244 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 3:00:03pm

re: #241 FemNaziBitch

I’d like to see that link.

presidency.ucsb.edu

245 Nyet  May 22, 2015 3:00:09pm

re: #242 HappyWarrior

How about fiscally sociopathic?

246 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 3:00:18pm

re: #243 Justanotherhuman

presidency.ucsb.edu

Ha- same link no less.

247 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 3:00:33pm

re: #245 Nyet

How about fiscally sociopathic?

Works for me.

248 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 3:01:59pm

GGT, you will gag at this.

Just checked an email trail from a group of women I sometimes hang with. One of the emails is from Mitch. I checked it to see who that was, and her email display is Mitch, her address is Ibelongtohim@…..

wtf.

249 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 3:02:56pm

re: #242 HappyWarrior

What we need to do though is stop calling the Republican party- fiscally conservative. They’re not and haven’t been for a very long time. It’s not fiscally conservative at all to push massive tax breaks while pushing for record defense spending for two wars as the previous administration with help from the Republican majority in Congress did. It’s also not fiscally conservative to oppose all taxes as Grover Norquist demands of Republicans in office and candidates for office. The anti-tax pledges are ridiculous.

I am fiscally conservative, which is why I vote for democrats. I support spending for Americans, not American corporations. Republicans haven’t been fiscally responsible in my voting lifetime (I am 55).

250 Nyet  May 22, 2015 3:03:12pm

It gives me a tax cut or else it gets the hose again.

251 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 3:03:38pm

Hope no one is going to Vegas…earthquake damage.

NHP closes all ramps from US95 southbound to I-15

8newsnow.com

252 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 3:03:56pm

re: #250 Nyet

It gives me a tax cut or it gets the hose again.

Great now I’m thinking of Grover Norquist doing what Buffalo Bill did and going “Would you tax me, I’d tax me so hard.”

253 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 3:05:17pm

re: #248 #FergusonFireside

GGT, you will gag at this.

Just checked an email trail from a group of women I sometimes hang with. One of the emails is from Mitch. I checked it to see who that was, and her email display is Mitch, her address is Ibelongtohim@…..

wtf.

ewwwwwwwww!

254 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 3:05:21pm

Or Florida…

255 makeitstop  May 22, 2015 3:05:55pm

re: #251 Justanotherhuman

Hope no one is going to Vegas…earthquake damage.

NHP closes all ramps from US95 southbound to I-15

8newsnow.com

I’ll be there a week from today.

But I’m staying on the Strip, so if worse comes to worse I can walk from the airport to the hotel. :)

256 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 3:06:56pm
257 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 3:08:08pm

It’s been wait, wait, wait all day. For a haircut and a ‘script. And awful traffic—everyone getting off early to get out of Dodge, I suppose. : )

258 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 3:08:16pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

presidency.ucsb.edu

We are proud of and shall continue our far-reaching and sound advances in matters of basic human needs—expansion of social security—broadened coverage in unemployment insurance —improved housing—and better health protection for all our people. We are determined that our government remain warmly responsive to the urgent social and economic problems of our people.

&

We shall continue vigorously to support the United Nations.

259 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 3:09:41pm

re: #253 FemNaziBitch

ewwwwwwwww!

I can’t imagine saying that I “belong” to anyone.

creepy.

260 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 3:10:14pm

re: #243 Justanotherhuman

re: #244 HappyWarrior

tweeted

261 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 3:11:03pm

re: #258 FemNaziBitch

A far cry from the neo-fascism of today.

262 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 3:11:04pm

Please check this short video out, just saw on their FB page.

IDignity is the organization my brother works for & my mother volunteers for. It is a model org, and hoping to expand to other cities. Without an id, you do not exist.

Last time I visited they had their event & I went. There were so many volunteers & so many people in line. Many of these people have benefits sitting in bank accounts that they cannot access due to losing their id, then not having the birth cert etc., to get it replaced.

263 Romantic Heretic  May 22, 2015 3:12:08pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I’m so sorry for your loss.

264 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 3:13:04pm

re: #258 FemNaziBitch

&

Yep as I said, quite telling how they’ve regressed in the past 59 years.

265 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 3:13:35pm

bbl

266 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 3:13:41pm

re: #259 FemNaziBitch

I can’t imagine saying that I “belong” to anyone.

creepy.

Super creepy. She is not that young I’m thinking. I cannot place who she is, but if I visit the group again I will definitely find out who this is and gaze upon this pitiful soul.

267 Romantic Heretic  May 22, 2015 3:18:16pm

re: #209 freetoken

Well, crap.

268 Shiplord Kirel  May 22, 2015 3:22:58pm

re: #243 Justanotherhuman

presidency.ucsb.edu

Incredible

America does not prosper unless all Americans prosper.

…………

We shall continue vigorously to support the United Nations.

……….

Workers have benefited by the progress which has been made in carrying out the programs and principles set forth in the 1952 Republican platform. All workers have gained and unions have grown in strength and responsibility, and have increased their membership by 2 millions.

………..

Republican action created the Department of Health, Education and Welfare as the first new Federal department in 40 years, to raise the continuing consideration of these problems for the first time to the highest council of Government, the President’s Cabinet.

……..

We have asked the largest increase in research funds ever sought in one year to intensify attacks on cancer, mental illness, heart disease and other dread diseases.

269 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 3:23:01pm
270 Charles Johnson  May 22, 2015 3:24:26pm

Why do so many people write “Opinions are my own” on their Twitter profile pages?

Are there people out there expressing opinions that belong to someone else?

271 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 3:25:43pm

re: #270 Charles Johnson

Why do so many people write “Opinions are my own” on their Twitter profile pages?

Are there people out there expressing opinions that belong to someone else?

Opinions are my own, not the company that employs me, that you will discover when you doxx me?

272 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 3:30:51pm

re: #259 FemNaziBitch

I can’t imagine saying that I “belong” to anyone.

creepy.

I can. I belong to ME.

And it is beyond creepy. And pitiful for her, because what happens to her if something happens to him? Sad. Truly.

273 A Cranky One  May 22, 2015 3:31:04pm

re: #270 Charles Johnson

Why do so many people write “Opinions are my own” on their Twitter profile pages?

Are there people out there expressing opinions that belong to someone else?

LGF is irrelevant.

/Not my opinion.

274 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 3:31:26pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I am so very sorry for your loss.

275 bratwurst  May 22, 2015 3:33:20pm

Quite a kickoff to the holiday weekend: my car got rear ended about a half mile from home. I got hit pretty hard, but decided to drive away having collected the other driver’s data. Unfortunately it turned out that the insurance policy number he gave me had expired.

At that point I went right to the police and miraculously they were able to get him to confess on the phone. Fortunately, my insurance covers uninsured motorists…minus a $500 deductible, of course. They are also making no promises how this affects my future premiums, even confirming this was in no way at all my fault.

Oh well, I am in one piece and my car is probably going to survive. I got hired for some online editing work today, so I’ll be able to manage the deductible without any problem at all.

I am always looking for distraction from my recent medical diagnosis, but this is not what I had in mind.

276 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 3:35:12pm

re: #170 Eclectic Cyborg

And I am very sorry for your double loss, too.

A number of years ago I had a series of events happen in a matter of 4 weeks: ex FIL died (whom I was very close to), lost my job, found out hubby was screwing around, my dog died. All life changing, major events.

I didn’t think I would survive.

I cannot tell you how many times I swore (out loud) at Nietzsche’s ghost.

277 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 3:36:56pm

re: #275 bratwurst

Quite a kickoff to the holiday weekend: my car got rear ended about a half mile from home. I got hit pretty hard, but decided to drive away having collected the other driver’s data. Unfortunately it turned out that the insurance policy number he gave me had expired.

At that point I went right to the police and miraculously they were able to get him to confess on the phone. Fortunately, my insurance covers uninsured motorists…minus a $500 deductible, of course. They are also making no promises how this affects my future premiums, even confirming this was in no way at all my fault.

Oh well, I am in one piece and my car is probably going to survive. I got hired for some online editing work today, so I’ll be able to manage the deductible without any problem at all.

I am always looking for distraction from my recent medical diagnosis, but this is not what I had in mind.

No whiplash? Your head didn’t hit anything? Strong abs?

278 makeitstop  May 22, 2015 3:38:35pm

re: #275 bratwurst

Quite a kickoff to the holiday weekend: my car got rear ended about a half mile from home. I got hit pretty hard, but decided to drive away having collected the other driver’s data. Unfortunately it turned out that the insurance policy number he gave me had expired.

At that point I went right to the police and miraculously they were able to get him to confess on the phone. Fortunately, my insurance covers uninsured motorists…minus a $500 deductible, of course. They are also making no promises how this affects my future premiums, even confirming this was in no way at all my fault.

Oh well, I am in one piece and my car is probably going to survive. I got hired for some online editing work today, so I’ll be able to manage the deductible without any problem at all.

I am always looking for distraction from my recent medical diagnosis, but this is not what I had in mind.

That sucks. Glad you’re okay, though.

279 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 3:39:09pm

re: #275 bratwurst

Quite a kickoff to the holiday weekend: my car got rear ended about a half mile from home. I got hit pretty hard, but decided to drive away having collected the other driver’s data. Unfortunately it turned out that the insurance policy number he gave me had expired.

At that point I went right to the police and miraculously they were able to get him to confess on the phone. Fortunately, my insurance covers uninsured motorists…minus a $500 deductible, of course. They are also making no promises how this affects my future premiums, even confirming this was in no way at all my fault.

Oh well, I am in one piece and my car is probably going to survive. I got hired for some online editing work today, so I’ll be able to manage the deductible without any problem at all.

I am always looking for distraction from my recent medical diagnosis, but this is not what I had in mind.

Wow. So sorry!

If your insurance company dings you for the accident, change carriers. None of the good ones do these days.

For the deductible negotiate with the body shop. They will likely cut it in half.

I, unfortunately, speak from experience. Except I carry a far higher deductible because 1) I rarely drive, and 2) I am Rainman (I’m a good driver, yeah, a good driver).

Good luck.

280 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 3:39:30pm
281 A Cranky One  May 22, 2015 3:40:24pm

Mrs Cranky’s gardens are one of the joys of Spring. They are waking up and starting the yearly show. She has the gardens planned such that there are always things in bloom, color coordinated with other parts of the yard. So the yard looks different almost every day, with changing colors and different types of blossoms.

These were taken with a cell phone, so I apologize for the quality. Just wanted to share a few of the early sights.

Mrs Cranky’s garden - 1
Mrs Cranky’s garden - 2
Mrs Cranky’s garden - 3
Mrs Cranky’s garden - 4
Mrs Cranky’s garden - 5
Mrs Cranky’s garden - 6
Mrs Cranky’s garden - 7
Mrs Cranky’s garden - 8

It’s always fun to see what’s going to come in next.

282 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 3:40:32pm

re: #276 WhatEVs

Happy to know you got through it all. Beam on. : )

283 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 3:40:42pm

re: #277 wrenchwench

No whiplash? Your head didn’t hit anything? Strong abs?

Whiplash doesn’t usually present itself for a day or so.

FYI, bratwurst, if you do present symptoms…ALWAYS tell them you have a headache. They completely discount whiplash as fraud. Headaches are never discounted. Ever. FWIW.

284 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 3:41:29pm
285 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 3:44:04pm

In NC, only collision coverage carries a deductible. Uninsured motorist has no deductible. We had a very good ins commissioner at one time who hated ins cos and wouldn’t let them get away with that kind of shit, nor excessive rate hikes. He’s gone now, though, but a lot of what he formulated still rules.

286 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 3:44:22pm

re: #283 WhatEVs

Whiplash doesn’t usually present itself for a day or so.

FYI, bratwurst, if you do present symptoms…ALWAYS tell them you have a headache. They completely discount whiplash as fraud. Headaches are never discounted. Ever. FWIW.

One can get a head injury from whiplash. Anything that whips one’s brain around like that can be known as a ‘neurological insult’. And headaches are a more familiar ailment.

287 makeitstop  May 22, 2015 3:45:26pm

re: #286 wrenchwench

‘neurological insult’

Not to offend, but that made me laugh.

288 goddamnedfrank  May 22, 2015 3:45:52pm

re: #248 #FergusonFireside

GGT, you will gag at this.

Just checked an email trail from a group of women I sometimes hang with. One of the emails is from Mitch. I checked it to see who that was, and her email display is Mitch, her address is Ibelongtohim@…..

wtf.

Slow your roll, she’s probably just a Powerpuff Girls fan.

289 bratwurst  May 22, 2015 3:46:01pm

re: #277 wrenchwench

No whiplash? Your head didn’t hit anything? Strong abs?

Baseball cap flew right off my head (everything in the car got tossed around, had to dig around for garage door opener) but did not hit my head.

And yes, I DO have pretty strong abs, been seeing a trainer every week and…oh, that is not what you mean, is it?

290 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 3:46:56pm

re: #287 makeitstop

Not to offend, but that made me laugh.

No offense taken. That one sticks in my weak memory, probably because it’s funny.

291 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 3:47:17pm

re: #286 wrenchwench

One can get a head injury from whiplash. Anything that whips one’s brain around like that can be known as a ‘neurological insult’. And headaches are a more familiar ailment.

Technical term for that brain injury is “Coup-Contrecoup Injury” because the brain smacks one side of the inner skull and then hits the opposite side.

292 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 3:47:21pm

re: #281 A Cranky One

Irises! Irises are the best flower ever.

293 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 3:48:48pm

re: #289 bratwurst

Baseball cap flew right off my head (everything in the car got tossed around, had to dig around for garage door opener) but did not hit my head.

And yes, I DO have pretty strong abs, been seeing a trainer every week and…oh, that is not what you mean, is it?

The strong abs can prevent other injuries! That is what I meant! I started PT this week! Yay for you for having a trainer!

294 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 3:49:24pm

re: #288 goddamnedfrank

Slow your roll, she’s probably just a Powerpuff Girls fan.

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Video

Oh my…….

LOLLLLLLL

Especially the forked tail getting all “pert”

295 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 3:49:43pm

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

Technical term for that brain injury is “Coup-Contrecoup Injury” because the brain smacks one side of the inner skull and then hits the opposite side.

Yup. It’s not ‘counting coup’ even if it sounds like it.

296 goddamnedfrank  May 22, 2015 3:50:42pm

re: #283 WhatEVs

Whiplash doesn’t usually present itself for a day or so.

FYI, bratwurst, if you do present symptoms…ALWAYS tell them you have a headache. They completely discount whiplash as fraud. Headaches are never discounted. Ever. FWIW.

I’ll do you one better -> Scintillating Scotoma.

Pretty much a guaranteed 1st class ticket to ride the MRI.

297 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 3:52:23pm

re: #292 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Irises! Irises are the best flower ever.

Purple irises are my favorite.

298 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 3:53:01pm

re: #297 wrenchwench

Gratuitous photo of wedding flowers because I adored them.
299 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 3:54:30pm

re: #286 wrenchwench

One can get a head injury from whiplash. Anything that whips one’s brain around like that can be known as a ‘neurological insult’. And headaches are a more familiar ailment.

Of course. I am just saying from an insurance company’s perspective.

I was working for a major insurance company and they gave ME shit when I got whiplash after being rear-ended (with about $6k in damage)…not to mention the pain from the seatbelt strangling me. Luckily, a neckbrace for a couple of weeks and I was just fine. But that tip came from one of the loss people, who was a friend of mine.

300 bratwurst  May 22, 2015 3:54:59pm

re: #293 wrenchwench

The strong abs can prevent other injuries! That is what I meant! I started PT this week! Yay for you for having a trainer!

Good for you. Strengthening my core (as the trainers say) has certainly helped improve my sciatica and could only have benefitted me in this situation.

And thanks for the concern and advice, everyone…though hoping I am done tugging on the heart strings as I have been around here lately!

301 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 3:55:29pm
302 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 3:55:35pm

re: #296 goddamnedfrank

I’ll do you one better -> Scintillating Scotoma.

Pretty much a guaranteed 1st class ticket to ride the MRI.

Ow. I am so lucky to not have headaches.

303 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 3:57:55pm

re: #299 WhatEVs

Of course. I am just saying from an insurance company’s perspective.

I was working for a major insurance company and they gave ME shit when I got whiplash after being rear-ended (with about $6k in damage)…not to mention the pain from the seatbelt strangling me. Luckily, a neckbrace for a couple of weeks and I was just fine. But that tip came from one of the loss people, who was a friend of mine.

Good tip. I’ve been treated pretty well by most people and organizations, but even when it’s going well, it can be a lot of work. I gave a deposition today.

304 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 4:01:07pm

re: #300 bratwurst

Good for you. Strengthening my core (as the trainers say) has certainly helped improve my sciatica and could only have benefitted me in this situation.

And thanks for the concern and advice, everyone…though hoping I am done tugging on the heart strings as I have been around here lately!

Bratwurst, you are fine to tug. We all love you.

305 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 4:02:41pm

re: #303 wrenchwench

Good tip. I’ve been treated pretty well by most people and organizations, but even when it’s going well, it can be a lot of work. I gave a deposition today.

I hope you get everything you deserve. Your experience was horrific.

306 darthstar  May 22, 2015 4:02:51pm
307 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 4:11:10pm

UpChuck is putting on his bigot hat again (and deliberately smearing #BlackLivesMatter)

308 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 4:12:11pm

re: #299 WhatEVs

Your company was negligent toward you. If you had neck pain, regardless of their uneducated opinion, you should have gone to the ER for an x-ray. When I was in a similar accident and was taken to the ER on a board, I told them I didn’t think I was that hurt, and the nurse said, You’d be surprised at how many people come in here with a broken neck and don’t know it. I don’t know if she was trying to scare me, but ins took care of the bill, at any rate.

I don’t think when you’re jostled around in an auto accident that you should take too many chances, though. Just because you’re not bleeding doesn’t mean you haven’t been injured in some other way.

309 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 4:13:29pm

re: #305 WhatEVs

I hope you get everything you deserve. Your experience was horrific.

Thanks. I am also fortunate not to remember a lot of it. (I’m sure that made the deposition shorter.) I will have the opportunity to see the video of me getting hit at the trial next week. Right now I’m thinking I’ll be out in the hall.

310 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 4:14:06pm

re: #309 wrenchwench

Thanks. I am also fortunate not to remember a lot of it. (I’m sure that made the deposition shorter.) I will have the opportunity to see the video of me getting hit at the trial next week. Right now I’m thinking I’ll be out in the hall.

I think I would be out in the hall with you.

311 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 4:18:21pm

re: #310 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think I would be out in the hall with you.

With me and Mr. w. The judge watched the video when the defendant tried to get the felony tossed in favor of a misdemeanor. Felony trial going ahead. Two days later, the judge’s son was hit by a car while he was riding his bike. I feel for both of them.

312 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 4:18:33pm

Woops. Training day.

313 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 4:20:30pm

re: #308 Justanotherhuman

Your company was negligent toward you. If you had neck pain, regardless of their uneducated opinion, you should have gone to the ER for an x-ray. When I was in a similar accident and was taken to the ER on a board, I told them I didn’t think I was that hurt, and the nurse said, You’d be surprised at how many people come in here with a broken neck and don’t know it. I don’t know if she was trying to scare me, but ins took care of the bill, at any rate.

I don’t think when you’re jostled around in an auto accident that you should take too many chances, though. Just because you’re not bleeding doesn’t mean you haven’t been injured in some other way.

Oh I did…but not that day. I felt fine right after the accident. I went on my merry way and drove away from the accident. The next day, I didn’t feel quite as bright and cheery.

And you’re right. It’s hard to deal with. You want to go home but you (meaning me) really shouldn’t.

314 Kilroy01  May 22, 2015 4:20:40pm

re: #312 Justanotherhuman

en.wikipedia.org
McDonnell Douglas T-45 Goshawk Navy Trainer

315 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 4:20:56pm

re: #310 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think I would be out in the hall with you.

And I would be sitting with both of you.

316 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 4:21:52pm

In the South Solomon Trench.

No tsunami after 2nd near-7.0 quake near Santa Cruz Isles in the Pacific - @KITV4
kitv.com

That earthquake near Vegas was a 4.8 and is being reported that the interstate and ramps are “structurally sound”.

317 darthstar  May 22, 2015 4:21:59pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Huckabee doesn’t like all child molesters - just those whose endorsement is key to holding the bigot vote.

318 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 4:22:19pm

I have achieved the “taking all the towels and sheets out of the linen closet” portion of the cleaning.

That means I can stop now, right?

319 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 4:23:04pm

re: #318 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have achieved the “taking all the towels and sheets out of the linen closet” portion of the cleaning.

That means I can stop now, right?

No! You must re-wash the entire lot. : )
I kid.

320 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 4:24:21pm

re: #315 WhatEVs

And I would be sitting with both of you.

The 12 jurors will see it. And everyone in the courtroom, I think. Other people having seen it kinda makes me want to see it, plus curiosity about exactly how it happened. But I’m afraid of unstoppable mental replays.

321 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 4:24:54pm

re: #318 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have achieved the “taking all the towels and sheets out of the linen closet” portion of the cleaning.

That means I can stop now, right?

Pace yourself. Fortify with a G&T before taking further cleaning action.

322 A Cranky One  May 22, 2015 4:25:05pm

re: #318 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have achieved the “taking all the towels and sheets out of the linen closet” portion of the cleaning.

That means I can stop now, right?

You’re going to throw in the towel after taking it out?

323 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 4:25:25pm

re: #320 wrenchwench

The 12 jurors will see it. And everyone in the courtroom, I think. Other people having seen it kinda makes me want to see it, plus curiosity about exactly how it happened. But I’m afraid of unstoppable mental replays.

I think not is better. My guess is you’d be able to see it later, if you wanted to, but unseeing is much harder.

But that is just my two cents.

324 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 4:25:33pm

re: #320 wrenchwench

The 12 jurors will see it. And everyone in the courtroom, I think. Other people having seen it kinda makes me want to see it, plus curiosity about exactly how it happened. But I’m afraid of unstoppable mental replays.

I would totally want to see it.

But I don’t think I would want to see it for just the reason you gave. You don’t remember much or some of it. As the saying goes, sometimes it is better to let sleeping dogs lay.

325 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 4:27:29pm

The privileges of the North Korean privileged.

Kim Jong-Un’s Brother Seen At Eric Clapton Gig

news.sky.com

326 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 4:28:46pm

I have been thinking of this whole Duggar deal and I keep coming back to…and they wonder why religion is on the downslide, why younger people have less and less interest in it.

Buddy, there you are, right there.

Circle those religious wagons around someone who is molesting kids, and then turn around and blame (everything and everyone but the molester involved). That’s not how you bring people to the fold…that’s how you drive them away in a fast and furious way.

327 Lord Of The Pies  May 22, 2015 4:29:11pm

re: #126 Nyet

Yeah, Polish chrzan too.

Yiddish חריין

328 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 4:29:21pm

re: #323 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think not is better. My guess is you’d be able to see it later, if you wanted to, but unseeing is much harder.

But that is just my two cents.

re: #324 WhatEVs

I would totally want to see it.

But I don’t think I would want to see it for just the reason you gave. You don’t remember much or some of it. As the saying goes, sometimes it is better to let sleeping dogs lay.

Avert my eyes or leave the room? (I can’t help thinking of juror-impact.) I don’t think there’s any sound. The tape is from a convenience store.

329 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 4:30:08pm

re: #328 wrenchwench

Avert my eyes or leave the room? (I can’t help thinking of juror-impact.) I don’t think there’s any sound. The tape is from a convenience store.

Leave the room. Tearfully.

330 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 4:30:59pm

re: #327 Lord Of The Pies

Saw this on my TL for you:

331 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 4:32:16pm

re: #328 wrenchwench

Avert my eyes or leave the room? (I can’t help thinking of juror-impact.) I don’t think there’s any sound. The tape is from a convenience store.

I think leaving the room. Hearing reactions might make it hard for you to avoid looking.

If you’re thinking juror-impact, you’re using a cane still some for walking, yes? I think having that reinforcement as you come back in afterwards would be just as effective as being in the room.

332 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 4:42:52pm

Influential bassist Louis Johnson dies at 60

11alive.com

333 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 4:43:19pm

Somebody’s got a good start on the weekend:

334 Lord Of The Pies  May 22, 2015 4:44:14pm

re: #221 HappyWarrior

I think VB has posted an image of their 1956 platform. It’s quite remarkable how regressive the GOP has grown.

There has been some debunking of the meme
Here is the actual platform:
presidency.ucsb.edu

335 prairiefire  May 22, 2015 4:44:41pm

re: #328 wrenchwench

Avert my eyes or leave the room? (I can’t help thinking of juror-impact.) I don’t think there’s any sound. The tape is from a convenience store.

Leave the room, darling. You will be in control for that tiny bit of time. Unless someone is considering your reaction and it’s impact on the jury. Perhaps you could see it t another, more private time.

336 EPR-radar  May 22, 2015 4:45:52pm

re: #318 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have achieved the “taking all the towels and sheets out of the linen closet” portion of the cleaning.

That means I can stop now, right?

I never get past the “thinking about thinking about starting a cleaning chore” stage myself.

337 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 4:45:53pm
338 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 4:47:01pm

re: #328 wrenchwench

What is your lawyer advising? He wants to make the most impact from you being in there, but he should accede to your wishes.

339 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 4:47:29pm

re: #334 Lord Of The Pies

There has been some debunking of the meme
Here is the actual platform:
presidency.ucsb.edu

Yeah I looked at it earlier. The most striking things to me in the platform were how they saw government as having a hand in improving the lot of citizenry.

340 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 4:47:45pm

re: #336 EPR-radar

I never get past the “thinking about thinking about starting a cleaning chore” stage myself.

That’s where I am right this moment.
MrBWS put his clothes in the washer.
I put them in the dryer.
I just reset the dryer on “tumble” for the third time so I can avoid unloading and folding.

341 #FergusonFireside  May 22, 2015 4:48:02pm

Posted a page. Think it’s my 2nd IDignity page, but damn, it’s something that is so righteous, and should spread.

Heading out to meet my ex sister in law.

See y’all later.

342 Skip Intro  May 22, 2015 4:48:03pm

re: #334 Lord Of The Pies

There has been some debunking of the meme
Here is the actual platform:
presidency.ucsb.edu

For our guidance in fulfilling this responsibility, President Eisenhower has given us a statement of principles that is neither partisan nor prejudiced, but warmly American:

The individual is of supreme importance.

The spirit of our people is the strength of our nation.

America does not prosper unless all Americans prosper.

Government must have a heart as well as a head.

Courage in principle, cooperation in practice make freedom positive.

To stay free, we must stay strong.

What party was this again?

343 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 4:48:21pm

re: #338 Justanotherhuman

What is your lawyer advising? He wants to make the most impact from you being in there, but he should accede to your wishes.

He’s actually the state’s lawyer, and he knows we don’t want to watch it, but have not discussed the details.

344 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 4:48:27pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s where I am right this moment.
MrBWS put his clothes in the washer.
I put them in the dryer.
I just reset the dryer on “tumble” for the third time so I can avoid unloading and folding.

I am putting off the “sorting and deciding what to do with things” until I manage to connect with my in-laws on the phone.

345 darthstar  May 22, 2015 4:48:29pm
346 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 4:48:34pm

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Indeed. Honestly fuck his parents too. I don’t want to hear lectures from this damn family ever again about how gay people are immoral and shouldn’t be able to have children or marry.

347 EPR-radar  May 22, 2015 4:49:03pm

re: #339 HappyWarrior

Yeah I looked at it earlier. The most striking things to me in the platform were how they saw government as having a hand in improving the lot of citizenry.

Even if they didn’t really believe it (e.g., passage of Taft-Hartley), the GOP back then certainly had to at least give lip service in support of labor and welfare programs.

348 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 4:49:20pm

re: #345 darthstar

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Evangelical Christianity is a cult.

349 klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 22, 2015 4:49:30pm

re: #345 darthstar

There are not enough words right now for rage.

350 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 4:50:20pm

re: #347 EPR-radar

Even if they didn’t really believe it (e.g., passage of Taft-Hartley), the GOP back then certainly had to at least give lip service in support of labor and welfare programs.

True point.

351 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 4:51:01pm

re: #343 wrenchwench

He’s actually the state’s lawyer, and he knows we don’t want to watch it, but have not discussed the details.

Discuss it with him. Pronto. I know what I would do. I would listen to my attorney (even if he isn’t your personal attorney). He’s got skin in the game.

Of course, if you think he’s a complete asshole, then I retract what I said above…do what you need to do.

352 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 4:51:18pm

re: #349 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There are not enough words right now for rage.

I know right? Seriously “dressing immodesty.” Yeah it’s her fault she got raped because how she dressed. How about some of the actual personal responsibility conservatives love to talk about and blame the actual asshole who did it.

353 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 4:51:45pm

National Guardsman Convicted of Sexually Abusing Daughters

abcnews.go.com

Odd that no boys were adopted?

354 Aunty Entity Dragon  May 22, 2015 4:52:30pm

re: #345 darthstar

That is some real twisted shit.

355 EPR-radar  May 22, 2015 4:52:52pm

re: #345 darthstar

Well, that’s 57 varieties of revolting patriarchal misogyny all served up neatly in a 10-point list.

Why must social conservatives and fiscal conservatives compete so vigorously for the title of worst human beings on the planet?

Is there some big cash prize for this?

356 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 4:52:52pm

re: #353 Justanotherhuman

National Guardsman Convicted of Sexually Abusing Daughters

abcnews.go.com

Odd that no boys were adopted?

Odd like an alarm bell.

357 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 4:53:35pm

re: #345 darthstar

Just. Fuck. That. Shit.

358 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 4:53:50pm

Funny how we hear “Oh but he was just a kid” involving Josh Duggar but Treyvon Martin and Michael Brown were thugs who needed killing. Funny how that works huh conservatives?

359 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 4:55:29pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

Don’t forget 12 yr old Tamir. That was so criminal the investigators can’t get even find an excuse for it after 5 mos.

360 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 4:55:29pm

re: #355 EPR-radar

Well, that’s 57 varieties of revolting patriarchal misogyny all served up neatly in a 10-point list.

Why must social conservatives and fiscal conservatives compete so vigorously for the title of worst human beings on the planet?

Is there some big cash prize for this?

It’s their ideology. Conservatism in itself is a retrograde ideology for retrograde people.

361 EPR-radar  May 22, 2015 4:56:47pm

re: #360 HappyWarrior

It’s their ideology. Conservatism in itself is a retrograde ideology for retrograde people.

I have to say, I’m hard pressed to think of any positive development that can be attributed to political conservatives, anywhere in the world, ever.

362 Amory Blaine  May 22, 2015 4:56:51pm

Is that real?

363 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 4:57:15pm

re: #359 Justanotherhuman

Don’t forget 12 yr old Tamir. That was so criminal the investigators can’t get even find an excuse for it after 5 mos.

Well, they are charging Tamir Rice with making the cops shoot him. Didn’t they just release a report how the poor cops were the victims? I just read that a couple of days ago.

364 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 4:57:44pm

re: #359 Justanotherhuman

Don’t forget 12 yr old Tamir. That was so criminal the investigators can’t get even find an excuse for it after 5 mos.

Yes, thank you. And then I see right wing trash like Ben “I still look like I’m 14” Shapiro acting like somehow Josh Duggar is morally superior to Lena Dunham and ignoring the fact that Dunham’s thing with her sister happened when Dunham was six and that she wasn’t a serial offender like Josh here. but I get it- IOIYRRCM.

365 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 4:58:04pm

OK, I laughed.
I’m a bad person:

366 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 4:58:49pm

re: #361 EPR-radar

I have to say, I’m hard pressed to think of any positive development that can be attributed to political conservatives, anywhere in the world, ever.

Most of the progress made by political conservatives was when made when they didn’t act like political conservatives i.e. Reagan not listening to the idiots who acted like engagement with any Soviet leader was awful or Eisenhower supporting the federal highway system.

367 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 4:59:18pm

re: #361 EPR-radar

I have to say, I’m hard pressed to think of any positive development that can be attributed to political conservatives, anywhere in the world, ever.

I guess it depends on what you consider positive. The sociopaths that are on the right, world wide, are thrilled with poor people starving, cutting off funds and access to doctors, austerity that hurts real, live people (if I hear the term “correction” one more time I may have to shoot someone).

368 wrenchwench  May 22, 2015 4:59:51pm

Later, lizards.

369 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 4:59:53pm

re: #352 HappyWarrior

Do children and old people dress “immodestly”?

Do women in their own beds dress immodestly?

Men pay no attention to dress when they want that kind of power over a female.

370 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 5:00:45pm

re: #369 Justanotherhuman

Do children and old people dress “immodestly”?

Do women in their own beds dress immodestly?

Men pay no attention to dress when they want that kind of power over a female.

It’s an excuse plain and simple in a sexist culture where the man can do whatever the fuck he wants and the woman’s job is just to pump out babies.

371 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 5:00:54pm
372 Bear  May 22, 2015 5:03:08pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Just got to the ‘puter. So very sorry to read about the kitty. I have gone through that with two of my beloved Forest Cats.

373 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 5:03:08pm

re: #370 HappyWarrior

Yeah, and gawdknows, those assholes want to control women completely, in every facet of their lives.

374 WhatEVs  May 22, 2015 5:03:16pm

Well, I am outta here for a bit. Harry Potter is on tonight. Cheers all!

375 prairiefire  May 22, 2015 5:04:13pm

re: #352 HappyWarrior

These people are no better than the law breaking polygamous LDS cults. Disgusting. There are millstones around the necks of many people in Arkansas. An accounting they have sadly ignored.

376 Justanotherhuman  May 22, 2015 5:04:37pm

Later, Lizards!

Keep calms and don’t let the bastards get you down. : )

377 Varek Raith  May 22, 2015 5:04:51pm

re: #368 wrenchwench

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Later, lizards.

I never understood how cats can do the things they do.
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378 teleskiguy  May 22, 2015 5:04:59pm
379 HappyWarrior  May 22, 2015 5:05:07pm

re: #375 prairiefire

These people are no better than the law breaking polygamous LDS cults. Disgusting. There are millstones around the necks of many people in Arkansas. An accounting they have sadly ignored.

They’re actually worse in my eyes since they go on television with their show and act like they’re morally superior to the rest of us.

380 Skip Intro  May 22, 2015 5:05:13pm

re: #349 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There are not enough words right now for rage.

If you don’t know who Bill Gothard is, you no longer have any excuse.

dailymail.co.uk

Here’s a video of the Quiverfull Mom of 2010 getting her award from Bill Gothard’s organization.

Youtube Video

381 freetoken  May 22, 2015 5:05:44pm

re: #377 Varek Raith

I never understood how cats can do the things they do.

They’re demigods.

382 Backwoods_Sleuth  May 22, 2015 5:06:12pm

Hey Florida lizards!

383 Kragar  May 22, 2015 5:11:33pm
384 bratwurst  May 22, 2015 5:12:15pm

re: #378 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Just last night I re-watched the clip of Letterman apologizing to Hicks’ mom then finally broadcasting his “banned” set from 1993 about 6 years ago.

I always found the guy funny and related to his point on view on most things, but only when I moved to Europe did I realize the man is regarded as one of the greatest Americans who ever lived by many in the rest of the English speaking world.

385 prairiefire  May 22, 2015 5:12:19pm

Celtic Dragon ~ if I have a Douglas grandma in the 1600’s who married a Crawford, can I wear a Douglas tartan? The Douglas tartan is so classy, like something from Ralph Lauren.

386 freetoken  May 22, 2015 5:18:27pm

This blogger is giving Josh no room:

Josh Duggar says he’s sorry. So what?

[…]

Josh doesn’t want you talking about his victims, he doesn’t want you focusing on the five prepubescent children he molested. No, he wants you to talk about how sorry he is.

Don’t let him change the focus. Josh Duggar’s apology is not the story. Josh can apologize until he’s blue in the face, but that’s never going to undo the trauma that he put his victims through.

Josh, and Jim Bob and Michelle alongside him, have shifted the burden onto the victims, painting Josh as a child who made mistakes, apologized and should be forgiven. They’ve tried to shift the narrative so that it’s just a short hop to viewing Josh as the victim.

This isn’t penitence, it’s not repentance, it’s what child molesters do. Rewrite the narrative so that in the end the audience feels sorry for them and forgets about their victims.

[…]

Worse, with the statement they released, they’ve now framed the story so that the victims cannot come forward, if they choose to do so, without being painted as “unforgiving” and choosing to “ruin his life” even though he said he was sorry.

It’s a statement designed to silence the victims.

[…]

387 darthstar  May 22, 2015 5:21:44pm
388 freetoken  May 22, 2015 5:24:05pm

Really should read that blog entry. Good for her. And she’s a religious person too, but not of the Duggar type.

389 darthstar  May 22, 2015 5:29:26pm

re: #388 freetoken

Really should read that blog entry. Good for her. And she’s a religious person too, but not of the Duggar type.

THIS:

This isn’t penitence, it’s not repentance, it’s what child molesters do. Rewrite the narrative so that in the end the audience feels sorry for them and forgets about their victims.

It should also be noted that child abuse is learned behavior…Josh was taught that this was something he could do, and get away with.

Yes, I’m looking at the parents.

390 prairiefire  May 22, 2015 5:33:50pm

re: #389 darthstar

Me, too. Signing those contracts for Money, money, money.

391 darthstar  May 22, 2015 5:35:49pm
392 darthstar  May 22, 2015 5:37:00pm
393 dell*nix  May 22, 2015 5:37:14pm

re: #312 Justanotherhuman

WW II saying “Another day, Another plane in Tampa Bay.”

394 prairiefire  May 22, 2015 5:41:31pm

re: #392 darthstar

Hey, we are going to Walnut Creek in June. Can you recommend any good mid price restaurants in Berkley and downtown San Fran?

395 Lancelot Link  May 22, 2015 5:42:49pm

re: #392 darthstar

Oh yes, Aerosmith.
Speaking of hypocritical paedophiles…

396 teleskiguy  May 22, 2015 5:47:16pm
397 darthstar  May 22, 2015 5:47:32pm

re: #394 prairiefire

Hey, we are going to Walnut Creek in June. Can you recommend any good mid price restaurants in Berkley and downtown San Fran?

There’s nowhere good to eat in this town.

But I’ll think of a few places that are passable. When you say ‘mid-price’ do you mean $20-30 per person not counting wine/drinks?

398 prairiefire  May 22, 2015 5:52:30pm

re: #397 darthstar

Mr. Sarcastic, yes, that price range. We want to hit Buena Vista Cafe @ Fisherman’s Wharf. Any other recco’s will be appreciated.

399 Single-handed sailor  May 22, 2015 6:07:15pm

re: #394 prairiefire

Hey, we are going to Walnut Creek in June. Can you recommend any good mid price restaurants in Berkley and downtown San Fran?

I hope you enjoy your stay in our lovely city. I’m the last person to ask about restaurants, my wife is such a good cook I don’t really enjoy eating out.

I retired from the City of Walnut Creek a few years ago.

400 prairiefire  May 22, 2015 6:57:33pm

re: #399 Single-handed sailor

Omg, I think I remember when you were looking at southern mo. It is not nearly as beautiful as Cali!

401 Single-handed sailor  May 22, 2015 7:04:10pm

re: #400 prairiefire

Heh, I finally came to the conclusion I’d never fit in there. Their Democrats are like our Republicans.

402 spiderx  May 22, 2015 7:04:20pm

Anyone who uses an edu email account for these kind of sites or their primary email account that can be traced back to a facebook or any other social media is pretty dumb.

403 mroop  May 22, 2015 9:58:58pm

I’ve posted twice in the comments section at gotnews.com. Both times Chuck has deleted all comments and then changed his article to respond to my deleted comment.

This guy is such a loser. I would love to know who is backing him financially. Is he somehow making a living from that ridiculous web site and how? I would love to know how that all works.

404 nkdee  May 23, 2015 4:58:25am

Would it be unethical to open an account chuckcjohnson.edu? Just askin’.


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